[1. Open Meeting.]
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TODAY IS THURSDAY, JANUARY 6TH, 2022.
THIS IS THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP AT THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL CITY, SECRETARY
[2. Roll Call.]
CRABTREE.WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER KATHERINE BATTALION PARKER, COUNCIL MEMBER S BEING MACKIE LONGORIA HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER, JASON SHELL COUNCIL MEMBER, NICOLE THOMPSON PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER.
CHRIS CERNIK MAY APPROACH TIM BECKY ROSS HERE.
MAYOR CHRISTINE DOES OFF IT'S K HERE,
[3. Discuss proposed amendments to the Home Rule Charter and recommendations by the Charter Review Commission.]
UH, ITEM THREE, DISCUSS PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE HOME RULE, CHARTER AND RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION CHAIR REVIEW COMMISSION CHAIR SPAWN SELLER.THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
UM, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS PROBABLY ALL READ THIS, SO, UM, I'M JUST GOING TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON SOME OF THE THINGS.
SOME OF THEM ARE KIND OF LIKE MORE OBSCURE, BUT THERE WAS A REASON FOR IT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO, UM, THE FIRST ONE ON HERE IS TERM LIMITS.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE, UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
WELL, I WAS CURIOUS HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THE LIMITS THAT YOU CHOSE.
UM, WE HAD DISCUSSED OTHER LENGTHS OF TERMS, UM, BUT TWO THREE-YEAR TERMS SEEMED LIKE THE MOST REASONABLE.
AND DID YOU USE ANY HISTORICAL DATA FROM PRIOR COUNCIL ELECTIONS TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD'VE PLAYED OUT? HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN TERMED OUT? NOPE.
WE DID HAVE THE BENEFIT OF PERSON LYNCH, SO ANY, AND ALL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FIRST CHARTER EVER, OR ANY CHARTER THINGS.
SHE WAS VERY HAPPY TO PROVIDE TONS OF HISTORY ON, WHICH WAS SUPER HELPFUL.
UM, IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS WHEN WE WERE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS MA'AM DID Y'ALL, UM, BY CHANCE CONSIDER WHAT'S GOING ON IN OTHER CITIES, LIKE LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR THEIR TERM LIMITS IN OUR REGION AND MAKE A DETERMINATION BASED ON THAT.
CAN YOU SHARE MORE ABOUT THAT? I MEAN, WE, UM, I DON'T THINK WE GATHERED DATA FROM DARAA ON OTHER CITIES, SIMILAR CITIES.
WE DID THAT WITH QUITE A FEW, UM, OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT IN THE CHARTER, BUT NOT SPECIFICALLY THIS ONE.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE, COUNCIL? UM, JUST A QUESTION KIND OF ON THE SAME, THE SAME CONCEPT THERE.
UM, I KNOW THE TERM LIMITS IS, IS, UH, IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT.
SO WAS THERE A, UH, LIKE SOMETHING TO A GOAL THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE BY, BY DOING THIS OTHER THAN THE OBVIOUS, I MEAN, WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE DIFFERENT LINKS OF, OF THE TERM LIMITS, WE, WE DISCUSSED OTHER LENGTHS OF TIME AND, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AS ACCOUNT OR TWO TERMS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AND TWO YEARS AS A MAYOR IS 12 YEARS, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU WANT THAT TO BE, YOU KNOW, THREE THREE-YEAR TERMS LIKE, AND, AND WE FELT THAT 12 YEARS WAS INAPPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME, AND IT'S NOT THAT THAT PERSON CAN NEVER RUN AGAIN.
UM, EVEN IF THEY CHOSE NOT TO RUN AS A MAYOR, SAY THEY WERE LIKE, NOPE, I LOVE BEING A COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND I DID MY TWO TERMS. THEN THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, UM, BE ELIGIBLE AGAIN AFTER ONE FULL TERM AND THEN THEY COULD RERUN AND PARTICIPATE, HOWEVER THEY SO CHOOSE.
SO WAS IT DISCUSSED ABOUT JUST TERM LIMITS YOU'RE DONE WHEN YOU'RE DONE, YOU'RE DONE AND NOT COMING BACK.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS FOR THE SAKE OF WE DISCUSSED WHAT HAPPENS, LIKE WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD, THEY SHOULD BE DONE AND NEVER BE ALLOWED TO AGAIN, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S AGAINST STATE LAW.
I THINK IT'S JUST NOT TO REDUCE THE ELIGIBILITY IN THAT WAY THAT WE SAID WE COULD NEVER, LIKE, IF SOMEONE DID THEIR TICKET PROHIBIT THAT THEY COULD NEVER EVER RUN AGAIN.
YEAH KNOW, I'M TO KEEP MY MASK ON IF Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME.
UM, THE, UM, THAT WE DIDN'T GET INTO THE LEGAL ISSUE ON THAT SPECIFICALLY.
I I'VE SEEN, UM, CHARTERS THAT HAVE THAT, WHERE IT'S THAT'S THE LIMIT AND THAT'S IT.
AND SO IF WE WOULD LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, WE CAN, BUT I'VE SEEN IT DONE IN OTHER, OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
I THINK THE MAIN PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSION AMONGST THE COMMISSION WAS, UH, THE CONCEPT OF NO TERM LIMITS, LET THE VOTERS DECIDE VERSUS LET'S HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE, UM,
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DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO SERVE, BASICALLY.SO THAT WAS, I THINK THAT WAS THE PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSION.
AND THEN, THEN THERE'S A RESTING PERIOD, SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN NEVER COME BACK.
YOU, YOU SIT OUT A TERM BASICALLY.
I UNDERSTAND THE IMPETUS BEHIND IT, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING THE HISTORICAL DATA BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER THERE BEING A LOT OF PEOPLE TYPICALLY THAT ARE RUNNING FOR COUNCIL.
AND I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE SORT OF SAYING THAT WELL, AFTER TWO TERMS PERSONALLY AND SERVED 11 YEARS, I'M SORRY.
KIRSTEN LYNCH SERVED 11 YEARS.
SO, SO, AND SHE WAS NOT A MAYOR.
SO TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, SO, RIGHT.
SO, SO WE DID, WE DID, WE KNOW OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SERVED LONGER THAN THAT.
SO WE DID LOOK AT THAT, BUT THE, UM, THE, WHAT WE WERE CONTINUALLY REMINDED OF WHILE WE WERE IN THERE WAS THAT, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE CAN TAKE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING INTO CONSIDERATION, THIS IS, THIS IS OUR OWN PATH THAT WE'RE BLAZING AND WE CAN CHOOSE TO DO, UM, DO THAT IN WHATEVER WAY THAT WE, AS THE COMMISSION CHOSE TO.
SO WELL, WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT WAS, I WANTED TO SEE THE DATA OF PREVIOUS RACES AND HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE RUN, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A GOOD COUNCIL MEMBER THAT COULD RUN FOR A THIRD TERM AND THEY CAN'T, THEN WHO IS GOING TO RUN FOR THAT SEAT, IT MIGHT NOT BE SOMEBODY THAT'S IN THE VOTER'S BEST INTEREST.
AND I PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT'S A DECISION THE VOTERS SHOULD MAKE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HISTORICAL DATA FROM PREVIOUS ELECTIONS, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT, WHAT OTHER CITIES AROUND US ARE DOING AND HOW THAT'S WORKING OUT.
WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM COUNCIL, JUST ONE OF THE THINGS SO CONSECUTIVE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY'RE POINTED? IS IT, THEY MUST BE THAT FOR THREE YEARS.
UH, IF WHAT, SO IF THEY LEAVE AND THEN THEY'RE APPOINTED, SO THEY DIDN'T, AND IN THE, IN THE LANGUAGE AND APPOINTED TERM DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS THAT.
UM, BUT IF THEY ARE ELECTED, UM, SO IF THERE'S A VACANCY ON THE COUNCIL AND THERE'S MORE THAN 130 DAYS, THEN WE HAVE TO DO A SPECIAL ELECTION.
UM, AND IF THAT SPECIAL ELECTION COMES AND SAY, THAT PERSON IS ELECTED FOR, UM, UP, UH, A PARTIAL TERM, BUT THEY WERE ELECTED FOR THAT TERM, THEN THAT WOULD COUNT AS A FULL TERM.
BUT, UM, SOMEONE WHO'S APPOINTED BECAUSE IT IS GENERALLY A MUCH SHORTER AMOUNT OF TIME, UM, THAT IS NOT, UM, DISQUALIFYING FROM, UH, IT'S NOT COUNTING AS A TERM AND IN THIS DEFINITION AND THIS ORDINANCE THAT HELPS ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE COUNSEL, OKAY, YOUR NEXT ITEM NEXT IS RESIGNED TO RUN.
UM, THIS IS, UM, PRETTY, UM, THIS, WHAT WE'RE ADDING HERE IS STATE LAW.
THAT'S WHAT THE STATE LAW CURRENTLY IS.
UM, SO, UM, IT WOULD, UH, UH, ALSO ALLOW, UM, FOR ANY MISUNDERSTANDINGS REGARDING, UM, UM, LIKE IF NICOLE DECIDED TO RUN AGAINST, YOU KNOW, FOR MAYOR NEXT TIME WHEN YOU APPLIED TO RUN, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO RESIGN AS LONG AS THERE'S LESS THAN 130 DAYS LEFT IN YOUR CURRENT TERM, WHICH, OR ONE YEAR IN 30 DAYS, I DID THAT LAST TIME TOO ONE YEAR IN 30 DAYS.
SO, UM, IF THERE'S MORE THAN THAT IN YOUR TERM, SEE YOU'RE RUNNING FOR A COUNTY COMMISSIONER SEAT OR A SENATE SEAT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO RESIGN YOUR SEAT ON COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO RUN A, THIS IS A VERY STANDARD, UM, AMENDMENT THAT MANY CITIES HAVE.
SO ON THIS I, AND THIS IS REALLY JUST FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION AND POINTING OUT THE DIFFERENCES IN THE TERMS THAT WE HAVE.
UM, SPECIFICALLY IF SOMEONE THAT WAS ELECTED IN 2018, SUCH AS OUR CURRENT MAYOR, UH, OR YOU KNOW, MYSELF BEING ELECTED IN 2019, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT.
UM, WHERE THE STANDARD TERM FOR THREE YEARS WOULD BE IF SOMEBODY IS ON COUNCIL AND THEY'RE, THEY WERE ELECTED IN 2018.
WHEN YOU RUN FOR, FOR REELECTION OR RUN FOR MAYOR, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE YOUR TERM.
IF YOU WERE ELECTED IN 2019 OR THAT ELECTION PERIOD, THAT TERM YOU, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SERVE YOUR TERM OR I, MY, SO THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, KIND OF A STRATEGIC THING AND IT'S, IT MAKES IT
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A LITTLE DIFFERENT RULES, DEPENDING ON WHAT YEAR YOU WERE ELECTED.I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY AROUND THAT OR LET ME GET SOME CLARIFICATION.
LET ME GIVE SOME CLARIFICATION THERE.
WHAT YOUR CHARTER CURRENTLY SAYS IS ANY TIME THE COUNCIL MEMBER ANNOUNCES TO RUN FOR ANOTHER OFFICE, THAT'S AN AUTOMATIC RESIGNATION AT ANY TIME WHILE THAT PERSON IS SERVING, THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM STATE LAW.
SO THE CHARTER COMMISSION WAS PROPOSING TO ADOPT STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO THAT, THAT STRATEGIC ISSUE THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT EXISTS IN THE DEFAULT STATE LAW, WHICH IS IF YOU HAVE A YEAR, IF FOR THREE YEAR TERMS, IF YOU HAVE A YEAR IN 30 DAYS, MORE THAN A YEAR, 30 DAYS LEFT ON YOUR TERM, WHEN YOU ANNOUNCED THAT'S WHEN THERE'S AN AUTOMATIC RESIGNATION.
SO IT DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF YEARS OF OUR TERM THOUGH, LIKE CEDAR PARK HAS SOME TWO-YEAR TERMS. SO THEN A YEAR, A YEAR AND 30 DAYS, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE AROUND MORE.
UM, BUT FOR US, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE DEFAULTED TO STATE LAW.
I JUST EXPECT THAT TO BE AN ISSUE GOING FORWARD, EVEN IF IT'S STATE LAW, BECAUSE OF OUR THREE-YEAR TERMS AND HAVING AN OFFICE WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT HAS CHANGED THE, THE, THE TWO YEARS OR IN IT, THE TERM BE ABLE TO CHANGE THAT.
SO WE REALLY, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT TWO YEAR TERMS VERSUS THREE-YEAR TERMS, AND WE DID NOT AS COMMISSIONED FEEL THAT TWO YEAR TERM WAS LONG ENOUGH TO, I LIVE IN CEDAR PARK IS CONSIDERING THEY DID.
AND THIS IS CLARIFYING WHAT WE ALREADY HAD IN PRACTICE.
I REMEMBER THIS COMING UP ON THE LAST CHARTER REVIEW, SO, ALL RIGHT.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE, COUNSEL, I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU.
YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT MANY CITIES HAVE ADOPTED THIS, BUT I THINK PAGE, YOU SAID IT'S STATE LAW.
SO HOW ARE WE ABLE TO OPERATE OUTSIDE OF THAT? WE'RE NOT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING, BUT THIS, I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE THAT THIS LAST ELECTION, THAT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM DID COME UP.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OUT THAT POSSIBLY CONFUSING LANGUAGE, AND WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT TO JUST BE WHAT STATE LAW IS, BECAUSE REGARDLESS WE COULD PUT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO STAND ON THEIR HEAD TWICE AND THEY, YOU KNOW, STATE LAW TRUMPS IT.
JUST, JUST ONE CLARIFICATION THAT MAY OR MAY NOT FACTOR INTO YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS IS WHEN THERE'S A RESIGNED TO RUN PROVISION.
THAT PERSON WHO ANNOUNCED FOR ANOTHER OFFICE CONTINUES TO SERVE UNTIL THEIR SUCCESSOR IS ELECTED OR APPOINTED DEPENDING ON TIMING AND QUALIFIES FOR OFFICE.
SO THAT PERSON CONTINUES TO COME, COME TO THE COUNCIL MEETINGS UNTIL THE NEW PERSON IS ELECTED OR APPOINTED AND TAKES THEIR OATH OF OFFICE.
IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW THIS KIND OF REALLY ACTUALLY ACTUALLY PLAYS OUT THAT'S PART OF IT.
SO I JUST KNOW IT CAN BE SUBJECT TO THEIR INTERPRETATION AND Y'ALL ARE CLEANING IT UP, WHICH I THINK IS FANTASTIC.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ONTO PROPERTY I'M CITY MANAGER? THIS IS NEW.
UM, THIS WAS ACTUALLY TAKING FROM THE MODEL CHARTER THAT THE MAYOR PROVIDED US, UM, THIS, UM, I MEAN THE HISTORY OF LEANDER CITY MANAGERS HAS BEEN, UH, SHAKY AT BEST.
SO, UM, THIS NOT ONLY, UM, KIND OF, SO WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT, UM, AS A COUNCIL, YOU CAN ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO RESIGN, UM, AND THEY CAN RESIGN AND TAKE THEIR PACKAGE AND BEYOND THEIR MERRY WAY, UM, OR THEY CAN DECLINE TO RESIGN.
AND IF THEY DECLINE TO RESIGN THE PROCEDURES OUTLINED IN THIS, UM, IN, IN WHAT'S BEFORE YOU, UH, ON WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
SO AFTERWARDS, UM, THEY WOULD, THE CITY MANAGER WOULD HAVE, UM, 15 DAYS IN WHICH TO REPLY IN WRITING AND UPON REQUESTS, BE AFFORDED A HEARING, EITHER AN EXECUTIVE SESSION OR PUBLIC AT THE, AT THEIR DISCRETION.
WE REALLY, WE DIDN'T, UM, DECIDE THAT.
UM, AND THEN, UM, AFTER THE HEARING, YOU COULD STILL GO AHEAD AND REMOVE IT, BUT IT ALLOWS THE CITY MANAGER TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, SEE WHAT THE REASONS ARE.
WE ALSO DISCUSSED HOW THAT COULD POSSIBLY HELP US IN THE FUTURE.
UM, IF WE EVER WERE TO HAVE ANOTHER CITY MANAGER THAT, THAT IS INVITING TO THEM, UM, BECAUSE IT PROTECTS THEIR JOB COUNSEL, ANY
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THOUGHTS? JUST A COUPLE.SO, BUT THE HEARING JUST ALLOWS IT TO BE HOW TO CONVERSATION HELD IN PUBLIC AS OPPOSED TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.
WELL, THEY CAN DO EITHER, RIGHT, BUT IT'S GIVEN THE CITY MANAGER THE OPTION TO CORRECT.
AND WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION AROUND, UM, SUPER MAJORITY VERSUS TO REMOVE, NOT FOR THIS ONE TALKED, NO, NOT FOR THIS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? OKAY.
NEXT IS F WE HAVE REMOVED WITH THE APPROVAL OF COUNCIL.
UM, THAT IS A VERY, VERY MINOR CHANGE IN THAT ONE.
UM, FOR BOTH, UM, 7.04 AND 10.07.
UM, BOTH OF THOSE, WE JUST REMOVED THAT CLAUSE.
UM, WE DID THAT BECAUSE THAT ALIGNS WITH THE CURRENT PRACTICE WHILE, WHILE THEY DO COME UP HERE.
UM, I HAVEN'T EVER SEEN A COUNCIL, UH, NOT APPROVE A DIRECTOR THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER.
UM, SO THIS, UM, WAS A CLEANUP ITEM.
UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IN MY TIME ON COUNCIL.
WE HAVE APPROVED DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS.
BUT HAVE YOU EVER NOT APPROVED? WE GET TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN EXECUTIVE.
WELL, IF YOU FEEL THAT, THAT IS, UM, THAT, UM, VITAL, UM, I MEAN, I, I DON'T THINK THAT IF LIKE WHEN THE, YOU KNOW, DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE WAS CHOSEN AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU WON'T GET A HEADS UP JUST LIKE YOU ALWAYS DO, IT JUST MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME OUT HERE AND APPROVE IT FORMALLY.
WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING? I'M NOT REALLY SURE WE DIDN'T DISCUSS IT.
SO JUST A THOUGHT ON THAT TO ME, IT'S JUST, IF WE WERE VOTING ON THAT, IT'S JUST CEREMONIAL.
SO IT ELIMINATES AN AGENDA ITEM FOR US TO CEREMONIOUSLY VOTE.
AND IT'S NOT ABOUT, LIKE, IT'S NOT ABOUT REDUCING THE COUNCIL'S POWER.
LIKE THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT, IT'S ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR STYLE OF GOVERNMENT IS, IS COUNCIL MANAGER, UM, THE MANAGER FOR THE MOST PART, EXCEPT FOR HIS POSITION, YOU KNOW, HAS THE FINAL SAY ON MOST HIRING AND FIRING.
AND YOU GUYS IN TURN CAN HIRE AND FIRE THE CITY MANAGER.
SO IT'S A BA I MEAN, A CHAIN OF COMMANDS, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M GOING BACK TO, TO A QUESTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, PENN TILIAN PARKER HAD EARLIER, WHAT PROBLEM ARE YOU TRYING TO SOLVE? I DON'T SEE WHERE THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH COUNCIL APPROVING.
AND IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW IS OUT OF LINE WITH WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING, WHY IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD EVEN WORRY ABOUT? LET ME CHECK, WHAT IS THIS SEVEN SO MY NOTES SAY THAT, UM, THAT, THAT JUST THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IT IS, IS APPROVAL OF COUNCIL NECESSARY.
THAT'S WHAT OUR, UH, MOST OF OUR DISCUSSION, UM, SEEMED TO BE ABOUT.
SO, UM, DOES, YOU KNOW, DOES COUNCIL NEED TO DO THIS? SHOULD COUNCIL DO THIS? THAT'S THAT'S WHAT OUR DISCUSSION REVOLVED AROUND.
I MEAN, I CAN, WHILE WE DID LOOK TO SIMILAR CITIES WITH A FEW OF THESE, UM, WE, WE DIDN'T ON EVERYONE.
WE WERE, WE WERE CHARGED WITH, UM, BRINGING OUR IDEAS.
WE HAD PLENTY OF RESOURCES, UM, THAT WERE GIVEN TO US.
AND, AND, UM, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE CAME UP WITH AS A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THE COMMISSION.
WAS THAT UNANIMOUS ON THIS ONE? UM, I DON'T KNOW.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER ON THIS ONE? OKAY.
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DEPARTMENT, EMPLOYEE EVALUATIONS.SO THE HISTORY OF THIS ONE, UM, IS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS, UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE SECTIONS OF THE CHARTER WERE BOTH ON A PREVIOUS, UM, BALLOT FOR VOTERS AND THE FIRE ONE PASSED, BUT THE POLICE ONE DID NOT.
SO WHAT WE WERE GONNA, WE, WHAT WE RECOMMEND IS THAT THE POLICE WOULDN'T GO BACK ON THE BALLOT SO THAT THE POLICE AND FIRE, UM, BOTH MATCH BECAUSE ARE CURRENTLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MODIFY AND REVISE AND SUBMIT THE SAME TO THE COUNCIL FOR REVIEW.
BUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SUBMITS TO THE CITY MANAGER.
SO WE WERE JUST TRYING TO ALIGN.
THERE'S NO REASON THAT ONCE YOU'D GO ONE WAY, AND ONCE YOU GO THE OTHER, WHEN WAS THAT? WHEN DID THEY NOT APPROVE THAT? DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT YEAR IT'S BEEN TWO, TWO AGO? NO, IT WASN'T 17.
ALL THOSE PADS WOULD BE 11 THEN OR 2005, 2002.
SO WE JUST WANTED IT TO BE THE SAME FOR BOTH ANY QUESTIONS.
IT'S TRYING TO ALIGN, BUT THE VOTERS GO COULD VOTE THAT DOWN.
THEY KIND OF HAD A REASON THEY COULD, THEY COULD, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS VOTED FATIGUE, IF IT WAS THE LAST THING ON THE BALLOT, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY THINK THAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD REVIEW PERSONNEL EVALUATIONS.
I, I'M NOT SURE, BUT WHAT OUR GOAL WAS TO ALIGN BOTH THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH MAKES TOTAL SENSE.
THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES ME SCRATCH MY HEAD ON THIS IS WHY WOULD THE CITY MANAGER HAVE THE ABILITY TO MODIFY EVALUATIONS THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE CHIEF AND THE FIRE CHIEF SHOULD HAVE THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR TEAMS, UM, REVIEWS ARE DONE.
THEY NEED TO BE TURNED IN ON A CITY LEVEL, BUT TO REVIEW AND MODIFICATION BY THE CITY MANAGER.
I STRUGGLE WITH THAT FOR THE POLICING AND THE FIRE.
YOU DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF A MODIFICATION WOULD DELETE SOMETHING ELSE SOMEWHERE.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF, I COULD SEE BOTH ON THE BALLOT.
WELL, IT COULD, IT COULD AS CITY MANAGER, I MEAN, AS, AS THE CITY MANAGER CAN CERTAINLY ADD TO, RIGHT.
IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO, IT FELT LIKE SOME COMMENTS WERE NECESSARY, BUT, UH, BUT I STRUGGLE WITH THAT ENTIRELY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY ADD, UM, THE ONLY ASS WOULD BE MODIFIED.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO NOT NECESSARILY, I MEAN, A MODIFICATION IS A MODIFICATION.
W W YOUR MODIFICATION COULD INCLUDE, ADD, SUBTRACT CHANGE.
SO THAT'S MY STRUGGLE WITH IT.
IT'S NOT, I DEFINITELY THINK THEY NEED TO ALIGN, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT THERE, THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE, TO ME, IT SORT OF LEAVES IT UP TO THINGS BEING CHANGED.
NOT THAT THEY WOULD BE, BUT IT JUST SORT OF LEAVES A DOOR OPEN THAT SHOULDN'T BE OPEN.
SO HIS MODIFICATION IN THE OTHER IT'S BOTH.
SO IN THE ONE THAT WAS PASSED, ACTUALLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS A WHOLE WORD MODIFICATION AND THE POLICE JUST HAS MODIFIED, BUT WE COULD ALWAYS TAKE OUT IN THIS ROUND OF THE POLICE VERBIAGE.
AND THEN NEXT TIME THEY GET HIT THE FIRE ON A LEGACY LIST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WELL, I THINK THEY'RE GETTING AROUND THEM AD BY THAT VERBIAGE.
SO WE COULD TAKE OUT FOR THIS, UM, FOR PROP G WE COULD TAKE OUT MODIFICATION THE WORD CAUSE THIS, LIKE, BUT THIS ISN'T THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT SUGGESTED THIS, THIS IS THE CHARTER REVIEW THAT SUGGESTED THE LANGUAGE.
SO THEY'RE NOT GETTING AWAY WITH ANYTHING OR GETTING AROUND SOMETHING, WE'RE GIVING IT TO THEM.
SO THEY'RE, NOBODY'S TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH SOMETHING FROM THIS LANGUAGE.
SO I SEE THIS AS MY, MY INTERPRETATION OF THIS IS SO ALL SUCH EVALUATIONS AND ACTION SHALL BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND MODIFICATION BY THE CITY MANAGER.
IF THE CHIEF SAYS, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS PERSON HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.
THEY NEED A RAISE, AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE THIS MUCH.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER SAYS, WELL, REALLY, I THINK THEY'VE DONE EXCEPTIONAL AND IT SHOULD BE THIS MUCH.
OR WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN THE BUDGET.
THAT'S MODIFICATION AND THE CITY MANAGER SHOULD HAVE THAT AUTHORITY AUTHORITY TO DO SO IN MY, IN MY OPINION, I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST NOTE THAT THE, UM, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S EXISTING
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IN THE CHARTER NOW PROVIDES FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO ALSO REVIEW, MODIFY, REVISE THOSE EVALUATIONS AND SUBMIT TO COUNCIL.SO IF Y'ALL, AREN'T, AREN'T HAPPY WITH THAT CONCEPT, THEN THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A CHANGE TO THE CHARTER AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS.
AND IF, IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY WITH IT FOR POLICE OR FOR FIRE, THAT WOULD BE CHANGE.
I CAN'T SEE, HE CAN THROW THAT ON TOO.
SO TO REMOVE MODIFICATION MODIFICATION OF FIRE, UM, AS IT IS ON YOUR PAPER, AND THEN SHE COULD CREATE A PROP FOR FIRE TO REMOVE THE WORD MODEL, TO, TO CLARIFY WHAT COUNCIL'S ABLE TO DO.
SO THE YOU'RE GETTING THE PRESENTATION OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN THE COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO, UM, ADOPT WHOLLY.
WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED, MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS, MAKE ANY ADDITIONS, MAKE ANY SUBTRACTIONS, THOSE, YOU, YOU HAVE THAT FULL RANGE OF OPTIONS AND YOU'VE GOT TIME TO DO IT BEFORE YOU NEED TO CALL THE ELECTION TO GET LANGUAGE IN FRONT OF YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE ON PROP G COUNSEL? ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS KIND OF CLEAN UP FROM THIS PAST ELECTION AS WELL.
UM, THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ON WHAT THE TERM GENERAL ELECTION MEANT, UM, IN THIS SECTION OF THE CHARTER.
SO WE JUST ADDED SOME LANGUAGE TO CLARIFY, UM, THAT ANYTHING ON THIS ONE COUNSEL THAT WAS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
PROP I, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS, UM, WE KIND OF, UH, TOOK Y'ALL'S LEAD ON THIS.
THIS IS THE WAY THAT COUNCIL AT EXPRESS THAT THEY WANT TO APPOINT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS.
UM, AND, UM, ALTHOUGH WE DID SAY THAT TO BE REMOVED, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A MAJORITY VOTE.
UH, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU GUYS HAVE LIKE A GENTLEMAN'S AGREEMENT ABOUT THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO THE PARTICULAR COUNCIL AT THE TIME.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? JUST ONE, I MEAN, JUST THE WORDING IS SO WEIRD.
I HAD TO READ IT ABOUT 15 AND I KNOW THE INTENT OF IT, BUT THE WORDING IS JUST KIND OF CIRCULAR THAT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE WORDSMITHING THERE, BUT I MEAN, I THINK THE INTENT IS FUN AND IT MAY BE THE LEGAL EASE THAT HAS TO BE THERE, BUT IT JUST WRAPS IN CIRCLES.
WHY NOT JUST REVERT BACK TO THE WORDING THAT WAS THERE PREVIOUSLY BEFORE? UM, IT WAS CHANGED TO BE ALL OF COUNCIL APPOINTMENT, BECAUSE I THINK IT USED TO SAY, UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, IT WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU POINT TO YOUR PLACE ON THESE YEARS AND LIKE IT WAS SPELLED OUT PRETTY CLEARLY.
SO, SO FIRST OF ALL, THE CHARTER COMMISSION WAS GREAT.
SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEM.
AND THANK YOU TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR SUPPORTING ALL THE INFORMATION, ANY DRAFTING ISSUES ARE MINE.
SO, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN FIX THAT.
UM, WE DID LOOK AT THAT LANGUAGE AND SO THERE WAS A REASON WHY WE DIDN'T USE IT.
SO LET ME LOOK AT IT WHILE WE'RE DISCUSSING.
AND LET ME REMEMBER WHY, BUT ONE, ONE DISTINCTION THAT THE COMMISSION, UH, PUT IN PLACE HERE IS THAT THE PRIOR LANGUAGE REQUIRED A MAJORITY OF VOTE OF THE COUNCIL TO RATIFY EACH COUNCIL MEMBERS NOMINEE.
EACH COUNCIL MEMBER NOMINATED A POSITION, UH, A PNC MEMBER BASED ON YOUR POSITION.
AND THAT HAD A CORRESPONDING POSITION ON THE, ON THE P AND Z.
SO, AND THEN, UH, YOU HAD TO ADOPT BY MAJORITY VOTE.
SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHY YOU SEE DIFFERENT LANGUAGE IS BECAUSE THE COMMISSION ONE, YEAH.
THEY JUST WANTED EACH COUNCIL MEMBER TO A POINT THAT'S AT THE END.
THERE'S NO, THE REST OF COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE TO AGREE OR APPROVE OR VOTE ON IT.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A NEW CONCEPT SO WE CAN MAKE THE LANGUAGE BETTER.
SO, YEAH, WE DID HAVE A PRETTY LONG DISCUSSION OVER THE WORD DOMINATE.
ANYTHING FURTHER ON THIS ONE, COUNSEL COULD USE THE WORD DRAFT.
YOU DON'T GET A CHOICE YOU'VE BEEN DRAFTED.
WE HAVE TO, WELL, WE'LL BE GETTING TO THAT.
WE'LL BE GETTING TO THAT, THE HISTORY OF THAT PRETTY SOON.
SO JAY, UM, JAY IS FOR ROBERT.
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UM, THIS WAS ON OUR LAST, UM, CHARTER REVIEW BALLOT THAT WENT TO THE VOTERS AND IT DIDN'T PASS.UM, SO WE'RE GONNA TRY AGAIN, LET'S IT, UM, STANDARD FOR MOST CITIES WE'VE DONE.
THE SIMILAR STUDIES TEST IS FIVE YEARS.
WE'RE ONE OF THE ONLY CITIES THAT DOES THREE YEARS STILL.
SO, UM, WE VOTED TO PUT IT BACK UP AGAIN.
UM, SO HERE, UM, JUST A FEW THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CROSSED OUT, RECOMMEND APPOINTEES FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
SO WE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH, UM, AND BACK IN THE HISTORY OF LEANDER, THERE WERE NO VOLUNTEERS.
SO YOU WERE VOLUNTOLD AND THE MAYOR WOULD COME AND SAY, HEY, JOE SMITH, YOU'RE ON PLANNING AND ZONING NOW.
UM, WE WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, BLESSED WITH THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT COME OUT TO, TO FILL VOLUNTEER POSITIONS.
AND CONSIDERING THE PROCESS, UM, FOR APPOINTING BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, ESPECIALLY PLANNING ZONING, WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT IT WAS NECESSARY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT RECOMMENDING ALL OF YOU GUYS ARE, ARE CHOOSING THOSE APPOINTMENTS TOGETHER.
SO THAT'S THAT ONE, UM, SUBMIT HIS OR HER BUDGET RECOMMENDED BUDGET TO THE COUNCIL IS, IS NOT A PRACTICE THAT IS ALSO ANY LONGER DONE HERE IN THE CITY.
SO, UM, WE JUST FIGURED LET'S CLEAN IT UP.
AND THEN, UM, MAY TAKE COMMAND OF THE POLICE.
UM, IN TIME OF DECLARED, EMERGENCY MAY TAKE COMMAND OF THE POLICE.
WE HAVE A FELLOW, WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM AND, UH, THEY HAVE MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, UM, AND, AND TRAINING, UM, MANAGING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
BUT THEN BACK IN THE DAY, THE MAYOR WAS THE GUY OR THE MAYOR WAS THE GIRL WHO HAD TO GO AND DO ALL OF THE THINGS BECAUSE THERE WERE SO FEW PEOPLE, UM, SO CLEANING UP, BUT FOR A GOOD REASON.
SO I LIKE THE REMOVAL OF THE, THE BUDGET BECAUSE NO MAYOR SHOULD BE IN OF THE WHOLE BUDGET, UM, WHICH THEY USED TO HAVE TO BE RIGHT.
THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPOINTEES, THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE SAME POWER AS ANYBODY ELSE, BUT THERE ARE OUTSIDE BOARDS, YOU KNOW, LIKE CAP, COG AND CAMPO THAT TYPICALLY THAT COMES FROM THE MAYOR.
SO AS LONG AS THAT'S NOT BEING REMOVED, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE PRESERVED.
UM, MY CONCERN ON THE TAKEAWAY COMMAND OF THE POLICE IN TIMES OF AN EMERGENCY, DID, DID Y'ALL TALK TO PAIGE ABOUT THAT? YEAH.
BECAUSE UNDER STATE LAW, IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, I'M THE EMERGENCY DIRECTOR.
BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM BEING AN EMERGENCY DIRECTOR IS DIFFERENT FROM TAKING COMMAND OF A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S, I'M WEARING AN EVACUATION IF I'M ORDERING AN EVACUATION THEN, RIGHT.
AND EVACUATION, BUT TAKING COMMAND OF THE POLICE COULD BE GOING, OKAY.
I WANT YOU TO REST EVERYBODY WHO DOESN'T HAVE A MASK ON, OR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TAKING COMMAND OF THE POLICE IS BECOMING THE POLICE CHIEF.
ANYTHING ELSE? COUNSEL? ALL RIGHT.
UM, ALL WRITTEN APPLICATIONS FOR PUBLIC RECORDS SHALL BE STAMPED WITH THE CITY SEAL AND A COPY OF THE APPLICATION PROVIDED TO THE APPLICANT, BUT IS NO LONGER DONE, UM, WITH ELECTRONIC, UM, OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS ANY LONGER.
SO WE FELT THAT WE COULD REMOVE THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS? COUNSEL? ALRIGHT.
PROP M AND THE LENGTH OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, AS YOU KNOW, UM, WE WERE JUST RECENTLY APPOINTED, UM, AND WRAPPED UP RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
UM, SO IT WAS A ROLE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF OUR MONTHS, UM, WITH THANKSGIVING IN THERE, WE WERE DOING, UM, TWO MEETINGS A WEEK, SOME WEEKS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT THROUGH ALL THE MATERIAL THAT WE COULD.
UM, SO THIS ITEM CAME UP, UM, AND WHILE TWO MONTHS IS PRETTY QUICK, WE STILL, I FEEL ROCKED IT.
UM, EVERYONE WAS TOTALLY DEDICATED WAS,
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YOU KNOW, UM, GRACIOUS WITH THEIR TIME.WE HAD SOME GREAT DISCUSSIONS.
UM, BUT THIS SAYS THAT IT SHALL BE SIX MONTHS.
AND SINCE OURS WAS MORE LIKE SEVEN WEEKS, WE WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT LANGUAGE, THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE FOR SIX MONTHS, THAT IF YOU DID IT IN SIX WEEKS, THAT'S FINE.
UM, BUT HOWEVER LONG, THE COMMISSION TAKES THIS KIND OF USUALLY A CITY COUNCIL WILL TELL WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, CREATE A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, WE WANT THIS ON THE BALLOT IN MAY, OR WE WANT ON THE BALLOT THEN.
AND THE CHARTER COMMISSION HAS FROM THEN TILL WHENEVER THE INFORMATION IS DUE TO THE BALLOT TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT IN.
UM, SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT MORE OPEN-ENDED SO THAT, UM, IF, IF THERE WAS A SHORTER TURNAROUND TIME THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN AND IT WOULDN'T BE AGAINST THE CHARTER AND CONVERSELY, YOU COULD HAVE A LONGER TIME AS WELL, MAYBE HELD TO THAT.
I MEAN, UM, THE FIRST CHARTER TOOK TWO YEARS BEFORE FROM, FROM THE TIME THE COMMISSION WAS CREATED UNTIL IT WAS ADOPTED.
UM, I WOULD GUESS WHEN IT'S THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT CHARTER THAT'S, UM, DID Y'ALL DISCUSS THE, THE POSSIBILITY HERE'S THAT WORD AGAIN, SHOULD VERSUS SHELL? WHAT DID Y'ALL DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF JUST LEAVING THAT IN THERE, BUT SAYING THAT THE REVIEW COMMISSION SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS AS A GUIDELINE AND I, AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I ASKED THIS, AND IT'S NOT OPPOSED TO THIS AT ALL UNTIL READING IT AGAIN, I'M THINKING, WELL, YEAH, YOU DID IT IN TWO MONTHS.
UM, SO IF IT'S, IF SOMEBODY IS LOOKING INTO THIS AND THEY WANT IT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS.
WELL, THEN THAT SAYS, THIS IS NOT A LIFETIME COMMITMENT.
IT'S IT SHOULD BE ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
IT COULD BE EIGHT MONTHS, BUT OUR A TIMEFRAME AND ESTIMATED TIMEFRAME.
JUST ONE THING, JUST A QUESTION, ONE THING I'VE LEARNED, UM, THIS IS MY SECOND TIME ON CHARTER IS THAT NUMBERS ARE JUST ALWAYS BAD.
UM, BECAUSE WHEN YOU PUT A NUMBER IN THERE, A LOT OF TIMES STATE LAW IS GOING TO TRUMP IT NEXT YEAR, OR, YOU KNOW, UM, IT, IT CAN'T BE ENFORCED.
SO I, I THINK THAT NOT PUTTING A NUMBER IS, IS, IS MUCH MORE OPEN.
I MEAN, THE COUNCIL USUALLY GIVES THE COMMISSION A TIMELINE LIKE WE WANTED ON THE BALLOT THEN, SO YOU NEED IT ALSO, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, WE DISCUSSED THIS WITH CHARTER, UH, WITH DARA ABOUT, WELL, APPOINTMENTS ARE IN OCTOBER.
THERE'S AN ELECTION IN MAY, LIKE Y Y SO, UM, SO SHE IS GOING TO START HAVING THAT BE ON THE SUMMER RETREAT OF YEARS WHEN IT'S ELIGIBLE TO REVIEW THE CHARTER AND, UM, AND ASK THE COUNCIL THAT IS, UM, SEATED.
THEN IF THEY PLAN ON, OR IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN HAVING A CHARTER REVIEW THAT WAY, UM, THOSE APPOINTEES COULD BE APPOINTED SOONER AND, AND HAVE MORE TIME BEFORE THAT NORMAL MAY ELECTION WHEN THEIR STUFF NEEDS TO BE ON THE BALLOT.
SO WHAT ABOUT THE TERM SHOULD BE, UM, AS DIRECTED BY COUNCIL? SO THAT WAY IT, WE KNOW THAT WE NEED IT BY A CERTAIN TIME.
WE'RE NOT SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE A SPECIFIED TIME IN THE LANGUAGE, BUT IT WOULD BE AS DIRECTED BY COUNCIL, WHICH WOULD VARY BASED ON THE NEEDS.
YOU ALL ARE FREE TO CHANGE IT IN ANY WAY THAT YOU CHOOSE.
WELL, I KNOW YOU THINK IT'S EXTRA WORDS THAT AREN'T NECESSARY, BUT WELL, AS DIRECTED BY COUNCIL IS LESS THAN IT HAS NOW IN TERM OF EACH CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION SHALL BE AS DIRECTED BY COUNCIL.
WE WEREN'T PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
SO WE, WE GET TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION NOW.
AND YEAH, OUR, OUR DISCUSSION WAS JUST AROUND.
SHOULD IT HAVE TO BE SIX MONTHS? WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT? THE IMPLICATIONS ARE THAT IT WOULDN'T BE ON THE MAY BALLOT.
SO, UM, AND THE FOLLOWING MAY FOR US, PARTICULARLY RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A CITY ELECTION.
SO, SO WOULD WE WAIT THEN, YOU KNOW, LONGER? SO, UM, IT, IT WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP IMMEDIATELY WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD EVEN CONVENE BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE SIX MONTHS.
SO, UM, WE WERE JUST TRYING TO BROADEN OUT THAT TIMELINE, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR REVIEW AND HOLDING MEETINGS AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE A LEGACY LIST, UM, WITH EITHER ITEMS THAT WE FELT WERE IMPORTANT, BUT NOT IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME FOR OUR CITY OR OTHER THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE NEXT CHARTER TO LOOK AT.
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SO YOU DID WITH PROP M I THINK IT WORKS.UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE COUNCIL? OKAY.
UM, WHEN I FIRST MET WITH Y'ALL, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I BROUGHT TO YOU WAS THAT THE CURRENT CHARTER SAYS THAT IF THERE'S A RUNOFF ELECTION, NOBODY IS SEATED IN AN ELECTION UNTIL THE RUNOFF IS COMPLETED.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, WHAT WAS THE DISCUSSION THAT LED TO THAT? NOT BEING ON THE LIST TO, TO CHANGE? LET ME SEE.
I'M JUST GOING TO ASK THE SAME THING.
UM, COULD YOU S UM, MAYOR MAYOR PERCENT BUDGET, IS THAT ONE ON ITS FACE? TO ME SEEMS PROBLEMATIC.
I'M HAVING, OH, 3.01, I BELIEVE 3.01 THAT THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL SERVE UNTIL THEIR SUCCESSORS.
SO WE DID NOT, UM, FIND ISSUE WITH THAT BECAUSE IT SAYS ELECTED AND TAKE OFFICE, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE SWORN IN.
SO, UM, THEY WOULD SERVE UNTIL THE NEXT PERSON IS ELECTED AND THEN SWORN IN, AND THEN THE SUCCESSOR WOULD TAKE THEIR PLACE.
BUT I THOUGHT THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH IT NEEDED TO BE AFTER THE RUNOFF ELECTION.
SO THE WORDS TAKE OFFICE, UM, AND OUR DISCUSSION, UM, EVERYONE FELT THAT THE WORDS TAKE OFFICE MEANT SWORN IN, UM, SO B I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TAKEN OFFICE, THEY HAVE HAD BEEN SWORN IN.
SO, UM, LIKE WHEN ESMERALDA HAD THE RUNOFF, IT, SHE WAS, SHE SUCCEEDED ME AS SOON AS SHE WAS ELECTED IN SWORN IN NO IT'S IN SECTION 5.1, TWO TERM OF OFFICE, THE MAYOR AND EACH COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL SERVE UNTIL HIS OR HER SUCCESSOR IS ELECTED OR APPOINTED AND QUALIFIED TO SERVE THE REGULAR TERM OF OFFICE OF THE MAYOR.
AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL COMMENCE ON THE FIRST TUESDAY FOLLOWING THE CANVAS OF THE ELECTION AT WHICH THEY RECEIVE A MAJORITY VOTE, PROVIDED THAT IF A RUNOFF ELECTION IS REQUIRED FOR ANY OFFICE IN THAT ELECTION, ALL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ELECTED IN THAT ELECTION SHALL TAKE OFFICE ON THE LATER OF THE 24TH DAY AFTER THE GENERAL ELECTION OR THE DAY ON WHICH THE VOTES FOR THE RUNOFF ELECTION OR CANVAS.
IN MY MIND, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE BECAUSE THIS ACTUALLY DID JUST HAPPEN WHERE THE MAYOR SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SWORN IN AND WAS, SO IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN WHAT SHE WAS, WE WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SWORN IN.
AND SHE WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE, THAT WAS WHAT THREW THE PRO TEM ISSUE INTO CONTENTION.
I THINK THE ISSUE IS, CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RUNOFFS, BUT THAT, THAT ACTUALLY DID HAPPEN THIS YEAR.
SO IF A RUNOFF IS REQUIRED FOR ANY OFFICE IN WHICH THEY PROVIDED THAT ELECTION, ALL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WILL SHE'LL TAKE OFFICE ON THE LADDER, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, YOU LEAVE ALL OF THE LAME DUCKS IN PLACE UNTIL A RUNOFF IS DONE, WHICH I THINK SO, SEE MY NOTES NEXT TO THAT ONE, SAY IT WAS CLEANED UP ON 3.04, BUT I'LL LET PAGE WHERE THEY'VE FOCUSED, WHERE THEY FOCUSED ON THE ISSUE WAS THE MAYOR PRO TEM APPOINTMENT.
AND SO THEY, UH, FOCUSED ON CLARIFYING THE TIMING OF THE MAYOR PRO TEM APPOINTMENT AND DRAWING ATTENTION TO THAT, THAT WAITS UNTIL AFTER THE RUNOFF ELECTION, THE ISSUE THAT YOU'RE RAISING, THAT, THAT DIDN'T GET REALLY FULLY DISCUSSED.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL CAN ELECT TO ADD INTO ITS CONSIDERATION OF THINGS.
SO WHERE THEY FOCUSED FOR CLEANUP WAS WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND MAKING THAT MORE, A KIND OF APPARENT OF WHAT THE TIMING IS.
THANK YOU, COUNSEL, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT OR YOU WANTED LOOKED INTO? I THINK WE ALL SUBMITTED ISSUES.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU AND I WANT TO SAY TO THE CHARTER REVIEW, THANK YOU.
AND ESPECIALLY DURING THE HOLIDAYS THAT YOU COULD HAVE BEEN SPENDING WITH YOUR FAMILY OR DOING OTHER THINGS THAT Y'ALL CHOSE TO TAKE PART IN THIS.
MY QUESTION IS BACK TO THE FIRST, UH, PROPOSITION C
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YOU MENTIONED WITH TERM LIMITS THAT THE THOUGHT BEHIND IT WAS REALLY TO ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO RENT, TO ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO RUN.YOU MENTIONED THAT EARLIER, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
SO THEN MY QUESTION BECOMES, WAS THERE ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT COMPENSATION FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS? BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME AND ONE THEY'RE SHOCKED THAT WE HAVE A COUNCIL WHO IS NOT COMPENSATED IN SOME WAY, BEING THAT QUITE A FEW CITIES IN OUR REGION ARE, AND THEN TWO, WOULD IT NOT OPEN UP, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EVEN MORE PEOPLE TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS? IF COMPENSATION WAS A PART OF IT, WOULD WE NOT? UM, WOULD THIS NOT BE AN INTERESTING THING TO MORE PEOPLE? SOME PEOPLE CANNOT DO THE TIME COMMITMENT OF 20 OR 30 HOURS A WEEK THAT THIS JOB REQUIRES ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE FAMILY OBLIGATIONS AND OTHER FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE A GOOD FIT FOR OUR CITY AND THAT THEY WOULDN'T DO AN AMAZING JOB, BUT THEY NEED SOME KIND OF COMPENSATION.
SO CAN YOU TALK A BIT ABOUT YOUR, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS? WE ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTELY DISCUSSED COMPENSATION.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WAS WE, UM, GOT INFORMATION ABOUT SURROUNDING CITIES, UM, WHAT THEY PAY, UM, THEIR COUNCIL AND MAYOR AS COMPENSATION AND WHAT THEIR TOTAL BUDGET IS.
UM, AND THE ONLY OTHER CITY THAT, THAT, UM, THAT DOESN'T COMPENSATE, UM, FROM THE, THE SIMILAR CITIES THAT DORIS PULLED WAS CEDAR PARK.
AND, UM, AFTER LOOKING AT THEIR BUDGETS, WE AGREED THAT, UM, THAT THAT WAS KIND OF THE METRIC.
UH, EVERYONE ELSE'S BUDGET IS ALMOST TRIPLE WHAT OUR BUDGET IS.
UM, GEORGETOWN JUST SO HAPPENS TO HAVE THEIR OWN WATER UTILITY AND HAVE A $400 MILLION BUDGET.
OURS IS ONLY 162, SO THEY PAY THEIR MAYOR.
SO WE FELT IT WAS MORE, UM, LIKE CITY TO CITY COMPARED.
AND THEN WE COMPARED EACH CITY'S BUDGET TO SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW THE FINANCES OF THE CITY AFFECTED COMPENSATION.
AND THE ONLY CITY THAT WAS CLOSE TO US IN BUDGET WAS CEDAR PARK.
AND THEY ALSO DON'T COMPENSATE.
THAT'S FAIR, BUT LIBERTY HILL HAS TO HAVE A LOWER BUDGET THAN US AND THEY COMPENSATE.
UM, UH, WE JUST ASKED FOR SIMILAR CITIES AND WE'VE GOT LEANDER FRISCO, PLANO, GARLAND, IRVING ROUND, ROCK, GEORGETOWN, CEDAR PARK, AND MCKINNEY.
UH, THOSE ARE THE STANDARD, UM, CITIES THAT ARE PULLED FOR QUESTIONS LIKE THESE, I THINK FOR THE COUNCIL.
SO THE COMMISSION, I KNOW THAT WE'RE UP HERE, TEARING IT APART.
WHY DID YOU DO THIS? WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT? AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL, UM, ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU PUT IN AND, UH, THE TIME CRUNCH AND WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAD A BLAST FROM, YOU HAD ASKED WHAT THE VOTE WAS FOR ON THAT.
SO THE FINAL VOTES ON WHAT ENDED UP ON THE PROPOSITIONS AND EVERYTHING, IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE BY THE MEMBERS THAT WERE INTENDANCE THAT NIGHT.
SO THE MEMBERS ALL REQUESTED IT MOVED FORWARD.
AND THEN WE TOOK EVERY SINGLE ITEM AND TOOK IT TO AN ACTUAL VOTE.
AND SO, BUT AT THE FINAL MEETING, THERE HAPPENED TO BE FOUR MEMBERS.
WE HAD THREE ABSENT, BUT IT WAS A MAJORITY THAT BROUGHT IT FORWARD TO BE THE LIST ON THE FINAL.
AND THEN IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE THAT IT ENDS UP ON THE PROPOSITIONS PRESENTING TO Y'ALL.
WE DID LIKE TRY TO PUT THEM IN AN ORDER F UH, FOR THE BALLOT, UM, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT VOTER FATIGUE IS A REAL THING.
UM, SO WE TRIED TO PUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MEATIER STUFF ON THE TOP, THAT WAY, IF CLEAN UP STUFF, DOESN'T PASS, THEN WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AROUND AT THAT NEXT TIME FOR THE NEXT CHARTER.
WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP AT 6 49, PLEASE BE BACK AT 7:00 PM FOR A REGULAR MEETING.
[4. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.]
ALL RIGHT.TODAY IS TUESDAY, JANUARY 6TH, 2022.
AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDER CITY COUNCIL, PASTOR WEST OF LAKE HILLS CHURCH IN CEDAR PARK, WHO IS ALSO CHAPLAIN FOR BOTH FIRE AND PD.
WE'LL BE GIVING OUR INVOCATION TONIGHT, FOLLOWING THE INVOCATION, PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
GOOD EVENING, PASTOR LET'S PRAY HEAVENLY FATHER.
WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR PRESENCE.
AND WE KNOW WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE
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FOR US, FOR JESUS ON THE CROSS.AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE SERVANTS HERE, THE CITY, AND THAT, UH, GOD THAT THEY, UH, UH, WANT TO SERVE US AND THEY WANT TO MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR US.
AND WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR THAT.
AND WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM AND THEIR DECISION-MAKING TONIGHT.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THANK YOU THAT WE CAN COME TO YOU.
WE ASK GOD THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US GUIDANCE TONIGHT AND WISDOM AS DECISIONS ARE MADE.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GOOD BLESSINGS ON OUR LIVES, BUT MOST OF OUR LORD JESUS, THANK YOU FOR SAVING US.
WE LOVE YOU TONIGHT FOR SOME OF YOUR HOLY AND WONDERFUL AND PRECIOUS NAME.
ALL RIGHT, CITY SECRETARY CRABTREE,
[5. Roll Call.]
WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER KATHERINE BATTALION PARKER HERE.COUNCIL MEMBER, JASON SHAW COUNCIL MEMBER, NICOLE THOMPSON, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER, CHRIS CERNIK MAYOR PRO TEM, BECKY ROSS AND MAYOR CHRISTINE DELLA HERE.
QUORUM IS PRESENT IN THE CITY COUNCILS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS ITEM SIX NON-AGENDA ITEM,
[6. Public comments on items not listed in the agenda. Public comments on items listed in the agenda will be heard at the time each item is discussed by Council. [All comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual.] ]
PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.I WILL CALL AND SPEAKERS PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED COMMENTS VIA THE WEBSITE WILL ONLY HAVE THEIR POSITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD.
ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL AND WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD.
UM, TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS SIGNED UP.
JAMES, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UM, BEFORE THE CLOCK STARTS, CAN I TALK ABOUT THE CHARTER REVIEW OR IS THAT NOT A, NOT A NOPE.
UM, WHAT I'M FINDING HERE IS, IS INCREASINGLY WE'RE SEEING THIS, UM, WE'RE FINDING OURSELVES IN POSITIONS WHERE WE NEED TO TALK MORE AND MORE ABOUT THE FUTURE, RIGHT? AND OUR, OUR, OUR VIEW HAS TO BE LONGER AND LONGER.
I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU A QUICK STORY ABOUT A BOOK.
A BUS STORY ABOUT SOMETHING HAPPENED ABOUT 200 YEARS AGO IN AN AMERICAN CITY, UM, WHERE THE CITY LEADERS AND THE POPULATION GOT TOGETHER, AND THEY DID SOMETHING THAT TRULY AFFECTED THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF ITS CITIZENS FOR LIKE FOR THE LAST 200 YEARS.
I THINK WHERE THE STORY STARTS.
UM, THE CITY OF NEW YORK AT THE TIME, MANHATTAN WAS HAD THE, ABOUT THE SAME POPULATION AS THE OFFENDER.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE END OF THE COMPARISONS.
UM, BUT IT WAS GROWING VERY RAPIDLY.
AND AT THAT TIME, A GROUP OF PRIVATE CITIZENS CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF SETTING ASIDE LAND FOR A GIANT PARK, AN ENORMOUS PARK, UH, CENTRAL PARK.
THEY WANTED TO HAVE, NOW THIS CAUSED ALL KINDS OF RUCKUS IN THE CITY.
UM, THEY WERE TOLD THEY WERE FOOLS.
THERE WAS NO MONEY TO BE HAD FOR SOMETHING AS LARGE AS WHAT THESE GUYS WANTED.
IT TRULY WAS A CRAZY PROPOSITION THAT MADE NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.
UM, IT WAS AROUND THE SAME TIME.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN SEWARD'S FOLLY WAS, WAS IN THE PRESS AS WELL, MEMBER, I THINK IT WAS A SENATOR FOLLEY WHO WANTED TO BUY THIS OBSCURE PIECE OF LAND OUT CALLED ALASKA FROM THE RUSSIANS, UH, WHICH ALSO EVERYONE SAID WAS A TERRIBLE IDEA.
BUT ANYWAY, THESE GUYS STUCK TO THEIR GUNS.
THEY WERE, UH, THESE, THESE MEN WHO WERE PUSHING FOR THIS TO PRIVATE CITIZENS, DIDN'T GIVE UP, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE GETTING ABUSED, LEFT AND RIGHT EVERYWHERE.
AND THEY FELT IT WAS, THEY WERE DOING GOD'S WORK.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, UM, THIS IS WHAT COMES OUT OF IT BECAUSE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN WHAT NEW YORK WAS, THEN IT WAS JUST, WHAT IS NOW DOWNTOWN.
A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT IS MIDTOWN? UM, IT WAS DIRTY CITY.
THERE WERE FACTORIES, NEW YORK WAS A MESS.
IT WAS, IT WAS UGLY AT THE TIME.
AND THESE PEOPLE FELT THAT IF THERE WAS A REALLY BIG PARK WHERE PEOPLE ON WEEKENDS COULD GO WITH THEIR FAMILIES, GET AWAY, JUST CLEAN THEIR LUNGS AND JUST FIND SOME PEACE WITH GOD AND NATURE.
IT WOULD BE A GREAT THING FOR THE CITY.
AND ABOUT 20 YEARS LATER, AROUND 1860, THEY FINALLY GOT THE APPROVAL.
THEY HAD A BIG PLANT, ACTUALLY DESIGNED THE PARK, ET CETERA.
AND CENTRAL PARK CAME TO BE, AND IT IS NOW ALMOST 900 ACRES IN SIZE.
IT IS FULLY 6% OF THE LANDMASS OF MANHATTAN ITSELF.
AND CERTAINLY, UH, WHATEVER WE CAN THINK ABOUT NEW YORK CITY, UH, IT WOULDN'T BE THE SAME WITHOUT SOMETHING LIKE A CENTRAL PARK.
AND SO THE POINT OF THIS LITTLE STORY IS NOT THAT I WANT US TO THINK AND ACT LIKE NEW YORKERS.
LORD KNOWS THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN PATH, BUT WHAT I DO THINK, AND AGAIN, I ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF HERE.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE OUR CITY LEADERS EMBRACING THESE IDEAS A LITTLE MORE.
IF YOU COULD FIND YOUR INNER CONSERVATIONISTS,
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YOUR INNER TEDDY ROOSEVELT'S AND SEE THE THINGS LIKE THIS CAN REALLY AFFECT THE QUALITY OF OUR LIVES FOR LONGTERM.THERE'S NOBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ITEM
[7. Recognitions/Proclamations/Visitors. Rouse High School Band]
SEVEN RECOGNITION.WE HAVE THE ROUSE HIGH SCHOOL BAND IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT AND READING THE RECOGNITION WILL BE COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON.
UM, I'LL START BEFORE I READ THE COMMENDATION FOR RICE ROUSE HIGH SCHOOL BAND WITH THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS THIS SEASON.
SO, UM, ROSS HIGH SCHOOL BAND PARTICIPATE IN BANDS OF AMERICA, AUSTIN REGIONAL.
THEY CAME IN FINALISTS AND THIRD OVERALL, WHICH WAS THE FIRST TIME IN SCHOOL HISTORY, TEXAS MARCHING CLASSIC CLASS FIVE, EIGHT THIRD-PLACE UIL MARCHING BAND REGION CONTEST DIVISION ONE, UIL MARCHING BAND AREA CONTEST FINALISTS.
SECOND BANDS OF AMERICA, WACO, REGIONAL FINALIST, SECOND UIL MARCHING BAND, STATE CHAMPIONSHIP, SILVER MEDALIST.
AND THAT IS THE FIRST TIME IN SCHOOL HISTORY, UH, BANDS OF AMERICA, SAN ANTONIO, SUPER REGIONAL FINALIST CLASS, TRIPLE A FIRST PLACE, FIRST TIME IN SCHOOL HISTORY.
SO THEY HAD A LOT OF FIRSTS THIS SEASON, AND WE JUST APPRECIATE ALL HARD WORK THAT YOU GUYS PUT IN TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
THE CERTIFICATE OF COMMENDATION READS, LET IT BE KNOWN THAT ROUSE HIGH SCHOOL MARCHING BAND IS RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF LEANDER, TEXAS FOR OUTSTANDING ACCOMPLISHMENTS DURING THE 2021 SEASON, AS A BAND THAT EXCELLED ALL SEASON LONG, THE CITY SINCERELY APPRECIATES THE COUNTLESS HOURS OF HARD WORK AND EFFORT SHARED AMONG ALL THE BAND MEMBERS, STAFF, VOLUNTEERS, AND THEIR FAMILIES.
THIS CERTIFICATE IS ISSUED IN RECOGNITION THEREOF ON THIS DAY, JANUARY 6TH, 2022.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
AS PART OF RECOGNITIONS, WE ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND FORMER ELECTED OFFICIALS.
SO ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME FORMER MAYOR JOHN KELMAN THIS EVENING, MOVING
[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.CITY COUNCIL NOW CONSIDER CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS EIGHT THROUGH 18 COUNCIL.
THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM, MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION.
AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY
[19. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-037 to amend the current zoning of LC-2-B (Local Commercial) and SFU/MH-2-B (Single-Family Urban/Manufactured Home) to GC-3-C (General Commercial) and LC-2-A (Local Commercial) on two parcels of land approximately 1.5660 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R035565 and R035563; and addressed as 1007 and 1009 Los Vista Drive, Williamson County, Texas. [Postponed due to notification error]]
ON TO PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 19 WAS POSTPONED DUE TO A NOTIFICATION AIR.[20. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-038 to amend the current zoning of PUD/TOD-CD (Planned Unit Development/Transit Oriented Development within the Conventional Development Sector) and HC-4-A (Heavy Commercial) to adopt the Heritage Grove Minor Planned Unit Development (PUD) with the base zoning district of HC-4-A (Heavy Commercial) on one parcel of land approximately 10 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R031721; and generally located to the west of the intersection of Heritage Grove Road and US Highway 183, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-038 as described above.]
ITEM 20 CONDUCT, A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 0 3 8 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF PUD, T O D C D PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT SECTOR AND HC FOR A HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO ADOPT THE HERITAGE GROVE MINOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF HC FOR A HEAVY COMMERCIAL ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POST AGENDA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE, UM, PROPERTY LOCATED AT HERITAGE GROVE ROAD IN US, 180 3.
UM, A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT SECTOR OF THE TOD.
SO THE NEXT STEP IN THAT PROCESS IS TO ESTABLISH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.
UM, THEY'RE ADOPTING A HC FOR A DISTRICT, SO THIS WOULD TAKE IT OUT OF THE TOD.
SO WE'D FOLLOW THE REGULAR COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.
UM, THIS REQUEST WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON DECEMBER 9TH.
THE COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND, UM, I'LL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, IF
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THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.IS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE APPLICANT? OKAY.
AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHED TO SPEAK ON THIS? ALL RIGHT.
WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO ACTION REGARDING ZONA CASE 21 0 3 8 AS DESCRIBED EARLIER.
COUNCIL MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION AND SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[21. Convene into executive session pursuant to Section 551.071, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05, Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding development phasing. Reconvene into open session to conduct a Public Hearing regarding Ordinance Case 21-OR-004 to amend the Subdivision Ordinance to update the definitions section, provide options for a Due Diligence Report, modify application completion review requirements, remove the A, B, and C Street requirements, update the Concept Plan submittal requirements to provide options for concurrent review with the Preliminary Plat process, provide phasing requirements, remove mylar requirements, update easement requirements, update the buffer zone requirements, and to provide for related matters; Williamson & Travis Counties, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Ordinance Case 21-OR-004 as described above. ]
UH, ITEM 21, CONVENIENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 7:13 PM.PURSUANT TO SECTION 5, 5, 1 0.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE IN SECTION 1.05 TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING DEVELOPMENT PHASING.
WE HAVE RECONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION AT 7:50 PM TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ORDINANCE CASE 21 TO AMEND THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE TO UPDATE THE DEFINITIONS SECTION, PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR A DUE DILIGENCE REPORT, MODIFY APPLICATION COMPLETION, REVIEW REQUIREMENTS, REMOVE THE A, B AND C STREET REQUIREMENTS.
UPDATE THE CONCEPT PLAN SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS TO PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR CONCURRENT REVIEW WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT PROCESS, PROVIDE PHASING REQUIREMENTS, REMOVE MYLAR REQUIREMENTS, UPDATE EASEMENT REQUIREMENTS, UPDATE THE BUFFER ZONE REQUIREMENTS AND TO PROVIDE FOR RELATED MATTERS IN WILLIAMSON AND TRAVIS KENNY'S, TEXAS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UM, SO THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, AND AS YOU JUST STATED, IT INCLUDES A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, WE STARTED WITH SOME CLEANUP ITEMS, UM, IN THE DEFINITION SECTION, WE ADDED QUITE A FEW DEFINITIONS AND REMOVE SOME THAT WE HAD MEANT TO REMOVE WITH SOME PREVIOUS AMENDMENT.
SO WE'VE REMOVED ALL THE AB AND C STREETS.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE CHANGES TO THE DEFINITIONS, UM, WE HAVE ADDED AN OPTION TO COMBINE THE SUBMITTAL OF THE CONCEPT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLAT.
UM, THAT WAS IN PLACE BEFORE WE ADOPTED THE SHOT CLOCK REGULATIONS THAT, UM, DEAL WITH THE TIMEFRAMES TO REVIEW PLANS.
UM, SO WE DID CHANGE IT TO WHERE IF YOU HAVE SMALLER PROJECTS, THOSE CAN BE COMBINED TO HELP EXPEDITE THE PROCESS.
UM, WE ALSO ADDED A COMPONENT TO THE ORDINANCE, UM, REGARDING PHASING.
UM, THIS, THIS PART OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE A PHASING PLAN FOR PROJECTS WHEN YOU HAVE OVER 30 ACRES OR 30 UNITS.
UM, AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE A PHASING PLAN TO THE CITY FOR REVIEW THAT PROVIDES SEQUENTIAL PHASES THAT CANNOT BE, UM, REVIEWED CONCURRENTLY.
SO YOU COULD DO A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT, BUT WHEN YOU COME IN FOR CONSTRUCTION PLANS, YOU CAN ONLY DO IT ONE PHASE AT A TIME, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND THE FINAL PLAT, UM, THAT WOULD BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY WITH THE OPTION TO, UM, APPEAL IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, WE ALSO ADDED THAT, UM, THE BACK TO THE CONCEPT PLAN COMBINATION, IF YOU WEREN'T, UM, BUILDING NEW ROADS, YOU COULD COMBINE THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAT TOGETHER.
UM, THIS IS AN ISSUE WE'VE SEEN WITH A LOT OF COMMERCIAL PROJECTS WHERE THEY HAVE A REQUIREMENT TO EXTEND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S OFFSITE, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A LONGER PROCESS WHEN IT'S A PRETTY BASIC CHANGE.
SO THIS GIVES THE CITY THE CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT FROM A HOLISTIC APPROACH WITHOUT STRETCHING OUT THE TIMELINE FOR THE DEVELOPER.
SO WE'RE JUST COMBINING THOSE TWO STEPS TOGETHER.
UM, ANOTHER MAJOR AMENDMENT IN HERE, UM, IS AN UPDATE TO THE, THE FLOOD PLAIN, UH, BUFFER ZONES.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR CITY ENGINEER COULD SPEAK TO.
UM, BUT THEY MADE SOME, SOME TWEAKS TO THAT SECTION.
UM, THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT DOES TIE TO THE NEXT AMENDMENT THAT KIND OF GETS MORE INTO THE MEAT OF THE PHASING ITSELF.
AND, UM, I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION REGARDING ORDINANCE CASE 21 OH R 0 0 4 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY COUNSEL.
SO I THINK THIS IS DEFINITELY A BIG STEP, A GOOD STEP IN SOLVING THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING CURRENTLY, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, THE WATER.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS IN THE DARK ABOUT THE WATER ISSUES.
SO I THINK THIS WILL HELP MANAGE, UH, OUR GROWTH IN THE FUTURE.
SO FOR THAT REASON, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE NO SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[22. Discuss and consider action regarding Ordinance Case 21-OR-005 to amend Chapter 13 Utilities to add provisions for development phasing; and to provide for related matters; Williamson & Travis Counties, Texas.]
I'M 22 DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ORDINANCE CASE 21 0 0 5 ADMIN CHAPTER 13 UTILITIES TO ADD PROVISIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT PHASING, AND TO PROVIDE FOR RELATED MATTERS, WILLIAMSON AND TRAVIS COUNTY'S, TEXAS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES GROUP.SO THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT IS TO CHAPTER 13 REGARDING UTILITIES.
AND THIS ONE DOES TIE BACK TO THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT WHERE WE TALK ABOUT PHASING.
THIS PROVIDES MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE PHASING PLAN AND THE TIMEFRAMES AND THE ORDER, UM, OF
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HOW THE PHASES WILL GO.UM, IT DOES PROVIDE FOR, UM, DETAILS ABOUT THE, THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT.
AND STAFF IS GOING TO WORK ON A POLICY.
WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT, UM, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW AS PART OF THE PROCESS, AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT, THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS.
WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ALL OF OUR STAFF THAT WORKED ON THAT.
[23. Discuss and consider action on proposed ballot language for consideration of a special elections. ]
23, DISCUSSING SIR.ACTION ON PROPOSED BALLOT LANGUAGE FOR CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL ELECTION.
UM, WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER ON THIS ONE.
SO, UM, I'M SORRY, MS. CRABTREE, SHOULD WE CALL UP MS. SIGNS FIRST OR THE SPEAKER? LET'S GO AHEAD WITH THE SPEAKER SO THAT WE CAN HAVE BACK AND FORTH FROM THE SIGNS.
SO I HAVE, UH, MATTHEW CASK, GOODY THING, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MY NAME IS MATTHEW 2 0 4 BRADY CREEK WAY IN LEANDER, TEXAS.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL, TO, TO ALL OF YOU, UH, FOR SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.
I KNOW IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY A THANKLESS JOB MOST OF THE TIME, SO I DO APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING HERE AND SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM THAT I'M CURRENTLY AGAINST BECAUSE A FEW, A FEW REASONS.
SO WHY MOVED TO LANDER? I MOVED HERE THREE YEARS AGO.
UM, MAINLY BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY, GREAT SCHOOLS, BUT ALSO WHAT SEPARATES THAT FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES IS WE DO HAVE TRANSIT.
UM, AND THE REASON WHY WE CHOSE HERE IS BECAUSE I COULD, I COULD EITHER TAKE THE BUS OR GET ON THE TRAIN AND GET TO DOWNTOWN VERY EASILY.
IT'S BETTER FROM A MENTAL HEALTH.
UM, I, I DO THINK IT WAS A GREAT FIRST STEP FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE A TRANSIT STUDY DONE.
I THINK THAT'S FAIR, VERY IMPORTANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THIS COMMUNITY OR HOW, WHERE THE, THE NEEDS OF THIS COMMUNITY ARE AS FAR AS HOW PEOPLE MOVE AROUND OUR CITY.
BUT I THINK THERE'S OTHER STEPS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN.
UM, WE ARE GROWING VERY, VERY FAST.
UM, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP, KEEP, UH, UH, STAY AHEAD OF THAT, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW.
UM, BUT I WANTED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR PLAN IS.
IF WE DO DECIDE TO LEAVE CAPITAL METRO, UM, AND CREATE A CORPORATION B I KNOW THERE WAS A, A DISCUSSION A PRESENTATION MADE, UM, BACK IN DECEMBER ON SORT OF WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS FOR THE SALES TAX USE? UM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, ARE WE TARGETING CERTAIN INDUSTRIES? AND IF SO, WHAT ARE THEY, UM, ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, LIKE THE LAST ITEM, UH, RELATED TO WATER.
I THINK THERE'S ONLY GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE, UM, PRESSING FOR US AS WE CONTINUE TO CONTINUE TO GROW.
WE WE'RE NOW OVER 60,000 RESIDENTS.
UM, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A FUNDING PLAN, A MENU OF OPTIONS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED.
I THINK NOT JUST LOOKING AT SALES TAX, BUT HAVE WE LOOKED AT OTHER FUNDING PLANS AND IT HAD A MENU TO BE ABLE TO CHOOSE FROM FOR COUNCIL? UM, I THINK ALSO SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED THAT MAYBE IS NOT WELL KNOWN AS UNDER STATE LAW, THERE'S NET OBLIGATION COSTS TO LEAVING CAPITAL METRO SERVICE, UM, THAT HAS TO BE PAID OFF BEFORE ANY OF THAT SALES TAX COMES BACK TO THE CITY.
UM, MY WORRY IS THAT VOTERS ARE GOING TO THINK THAT IF THEY LEAVE CAPITAL METRO, THIS CORPORATION GETS CREATED AND THEN A, AN ILA BETWEEN CAPITAL METRO OR CR IS, IS THEN ADDRESSED.
NONE OF THAT CAN HAPPEN UNTIL THAT OBLIGATION FEE IS PAID OFF, WHICH I'VE HEARD UP TO SIX YEARS HAS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
SO WE VOTE TO LEAVE WHAT HAPPENS, NOTHING.
WE HAVE NO SALES TAX FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES THAT NEEDS TO BE FURTHER DISCUSSED WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN, UH, I ALSO THINK JUST AS A GENERAL RULE, STATE LAW IS WAY OUTDATED AND RESTRICTIVE ON COMMUNITIES FOR HOW THEY PAY FOR, UH, FOR TRANSIT SERVICE.
UM, I'VE PERSONALLY GONE TO THE CAPITOL MULTIPLE YEARS, MULTIPLE SESSIONS TO ASK FOR THEM TO COME UP WITH OTHER OPTIONS FOR CITIES TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR TRANSIT BECAUSE IN HIGH GROWTH AREAS LIKE OURS, PEOPLE NEED OTHER OPTIONS TO GET, TO GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.
SO BOTTOM LINE REAL QUICKLY IS YOU NEED A TOLL TAG TO LIVE HERE IF YOU DON'T HAVE TRANSIT.
UH, MARIN COUNCIL, THIS, THIS SUFJAN ITEM IS BROUGHT BACK TO YOU BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE ARE THREE, UH, YOU REQUESTED THAT CAP METRO BALLOT LANGUAGE BE BROUGHT FORWARD IN PRIOR MEETINGS.
THERE HAD BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, WHAT, IF ANY ADDITIONAL BALLOT LANGUAGE MAY BE ON THE, UH, THE BALLOT.
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THE COUNCIL CHOSE TO CALL AN ELECTION RELATED TO CAP METRO RELATED TO A SALES TAX THAT COULD REPLACE THE CAP METRO SALES TAX.AND SO THERE'S, THERE ARE TWO PROPOSITIONS PROVIDED FOR YOU, UH, RELATED TO PRIOR DISCUSSIONS AND SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, GATHER SINCE THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE ABOUT SALES TAX, BUT FIRST OF ALL, UH, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU, THE PROP, A, THE CAP, METRO TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY CONTINUATION, THE, THE BELT LANGUAGE THAT IS PROVIDED TO YOU IS SET BY STATUTE.
AND SO THAT IS THE BALLOT LANGUAGE THAT IS BEFORE YOU, UH, REGARDING THE TWO ALTERNATIVE, UM, OPTIONS FOR SALES TAX COUNSEL HAD PRIOR CONSIDERED A TYPE B ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SALES TAX.
AND THAT LANGUAGE IS NOT SET BY STATUTE.
AND SO THIS IS PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ADOPT A TYPE B SALES TAX IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CONTROLLER FOR REVIEW THE CONTROLLER ADVISE THAT THEY WOULD ENACT A SALES TAX.
UH, IF THAT WAS PUT FORWARD TO THE VOTERS, IF THE CAP METRO, UH, PROPOSITION VOTED FOR WITHDRAWAL, THEN THIS TYPE OF B SALES TAX WOULD BE PUT INTO EFFECT, AND IT WOULD NOT BE EFFECTIVE UNTIL AFTER THAT NET FINANCIAL OBLIGATION WAS PAID OFF AS A PRIOR SPEAKER, UM, ADDRESSED THE CAP.
METRO SALES TAX CONTINUES TO BE COLLECTED UNTIL THE NET FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS PAID OFF.
AND THEN THE NEW SALES TAX COMES INTO PLACE.
THE OTHER OPTION IS, UM, A GENERAL REVENUE SALES TAX.
SO THE TYPE B ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SALES TAXES, A DEDICATED SALES TAX CAN ONLY BE USED FOR CERTAIN PURPOSES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES THAT ARE GOVERNED BY STATUTE, UM, AND CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS HAVE TO BE MET IN ORDER TO SPEND THE MONEY FOR THOSE PURPOSES.
UH, YOU ALSO CREATE A CORPORATION ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, WHICH IS A NONPROFIT CORPORATION THAT HAS A BOARD APPOINTED BY COUNCIL AND THAT BOARD REVIEWS AND APPROVES PROJECTS AND COUNCIL RATIFIES THOSE IF COUNCIL SEES FIT, UM, THE SECOND OPTION FOR THE COUNCIL IS A GENERAL REVENUE SALES TAX.
IT USED TO BE THAT STATE LAW KEPT THE GENERAL REVENUE SALES TAX AT 1%.
AND IN 2015, THAT WAS REMOVED TO ALLOW CITIES TO ADOPT A GENERAL REVENUE SALES TAX IN INCREMENTS OF ONE EIGHTH OF 1% UP TO YOUR CAP.
SO YOU NO LONGER STUCK AT 1%, YOU CAN GO LOWER, YOU CAN GO HIGHER.
SO, UM, THIS LANGUAGE IS PROVIDED FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AS WELL.
A GENERAL REVENUE SALES TAX CAN BE SPEND FOR MOST, MOST GENERAL REVENUE PURPOSES.
IT'S NOT RESTRICTED FOR THE MOST PART.
THERE'S A LOT MORE FREEDOM FOR USE OF THOSE FUNDS.
YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF, YOU KNOW, DESPITE HOW THIS IS PRESENTED TO YOU, YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF, UM, COMBINING THOSE IN SOME WAY TO, UM, IF, IF THE CAP METRO, UM, THE VOTERS ELECT TO WITHDRAW FROM CAP METRO, THE, UH, THAT LEAVES YOU 1% AND YOU CAN DIVIDE THAT AMONGST OTHER SALES TAX OPTIONS.
SO THIS IS PRESENTED TO YOU AS THE 1% GOING TO EITHER GENERAL REVENUE OR TYPE B, BUT YOU COULD DIVIDE THEM UP IF YOU WANTED TO DIVIDE UP THAT 50 CENTS.
AND WE HAVE THIS OPTION, THESE ITEMS HERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION DISCUSSION, AND THEN, UH, WE CAN TAKE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO PREPARE MORE INFORMATION OR PER PREPARE ORDINANCES BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION TONIGHT QUESTION.
NO, I'M PROBABLY THEY VOTE TO LEAVE FROM CAP METRO, RIGHT? AND THEN ON PROP B, THEY, WHICHEVER ONE WE CHOOSE, THEY VOTE.
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE MONEY THEN, THEN THE SALES TAX, WHICH AFFECTS BUSINESSES, RETAIL BUSINESSES, AND OTHER ENTITIES SUBJECT TO THAT, THE SALES TAX, AFTER THAT THE NET FINANCIAL HAS PAID OFF, THEN THAT SALES TAX WOULD NOT BE COLLECTED ANYMORE.
AND THE SALES TAX THAT LEANDER CURRENTLY HAS AN EFFECT, WHICH IS A 1%, UH, THAT IS ALL THAT WOULD BE APPLIED TO WITHIN THE WITHIN CITY OF LEANDER.
UM, THE CITY CAN COUNCIL CAN, ONCE YOU HAVE AN ELECTION FOR A SALES TAX, SUCH AS ONE OF THESE, IF I BELIEVE, AND I NEED TO CONFIRM, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO WAIT TWO YEARS BEFORE YOU HAVE ANOTHER SALES TAX ELECTION.
SO IF THE VOTERS SAID, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO ADOPT A GENERAL REVENUE SALES TAX OR TYPE B SALES TAX.
YOU COULD BRING THAT BACK TO THE VOTERS IN THE FUTURE.
YOU JUST HAVE TO WAIT A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT YOU COULD BRING IT BACK
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AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.SO I LIKED THE CONCEPT OF, UM, OR AT LEAST WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE OPTION OF THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO WHERE A PORTION, A PORTION OF OUR 50% GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT, AT LEAST AT SOME POINT IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO LOWER PROPERTY TAXES FOR HOMEOWNERS.
SO SAYING IT WILL, IT HAS THE POTENTIAL.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT COMBINATION.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AS, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE VERY SMALL, A SMALL PORTION COMPARED TO LSD, I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH IT TO HAVE THAT, THAT COMBINATION PRESENTED TO US.
FOR THE NEXT MEETING WHEN WE VOTE, I THINK EVEN WITH A TYPE B THOUGH, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IN THERE BECAUSE IT INCLUDES COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THAT IT HAS THAT SAME POTENTIAL.
WELL, AND THE REALITY IS WE'VE GOT SO MANY, SO MUCH ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE THAT WE NEED TO BUILD WITHIN THE CITY.
I DON'T, I THINK A PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION, IT'S ALMOST ON PAPER, IT'S SO MINIMAL THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT SAID POTENTIAL AND THAT I'D RATHER SEE IT GO TOWARDS THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
BUT I THINK IN THE END, I MEAN, BECAUSE OF THE NET FINANCIAL OBLIGATION, YOU'RE WE'RE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE ANY MONEY WOULD GO INTO THESE COFFERS ANYWAY.
SO MY INKLING OR MY WORDING WOULD BE TO KEEP IT SIMPLE.
SO IF IT GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND, CANNOT, CAN IT NOT BE USED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE? YEAH.
SO THERE WOULD BE NO REASON NOT TO PUT IT TOWARD THE GENERAL A PORTION TOWARD THE GENERAL FUND.
IF WE CAN, IF YOU HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY ON WHAT WE CAN DO WITH IT, YOU HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH THE GENERAL REVENUE SALES TAX.
AND, UM, AS YOU KNOW, FROM OTHER PROJECTS, YOU DO THAT THE, YOU ENTER INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITH FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUND, USUALLY IN THE FORM OF PROPERTY TAX REBATES AND SALES TAX REBATES ARE AN EXAMPLE OF THOSE.
SOMETIMES YOU PARTICIPATE IN INFRASTRUCTURE, CONSTRUCTION OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND SO I'M A GENERAL REVENUE SALES TAX.
IT THAT THAT, THAT FUNDING CAN BE USED FOR ANY OF THOSE OPTIONS, JUST DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHER TERMS YOU HAVE TO MEET UNDER THOSE AGREEMENTS.
BUT, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE, THE TYPE FOUR B ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SALES TAX.
SO THE GENERAL REVENUE SALES TAX YOU USING JUST FOR GENERAL COMMUNITY PROJECTS, TRANSPORTATION, UH, THE, THE FUNDING THERE WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT.
AS FAR AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOES, IT HAS TO BE TIED TO THAT.
IT PROMOTES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH A FOUR B SALES TAX.
THEN THAT THOSE THAT IS PRETTY, IT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE.
THERE ARE COMMUNITY PROJECTS THAT CAN BE FUNDED WITH THOSE.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IT HAS TO PROMOTE AND PROMOTE JOBS, UM, PROMOTE THE EXPANSION OF, OF, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY.
AND THEN THERE'S A LIMITED LIST OF, OF, UM, ITEMS YOU CAN SPEND UNDER, UNDER THAT CATEGORY, LIKE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE, LAND, MAYBE SOME FACILITIES, THERE'S A LIMITED LIST FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO SPEND MORE ON FOR B FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT INTERESTS COUNCIL OUTSIDE OF THAT LIMITED LIST OF INFRASTRUCTURE, LAND FACILITIES, THEN YOU, THEN THERE ARE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS THE BUSINESSES HAVE TO MEET.
THEY HAVE TO BE IN CERTAIN CATEGORIES OF INDUSTRY.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE THE RESTRICTIONS ARE THERE.
I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT FOR YOU.
UM, THE FOUR B IS, WOULD BE DEDICATED TOWARDS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY PROJECTS, BUT THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS YOU HAVE TO FIT WITHIN A CATEGORY UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, WHEN IT'S A GENERAL REVENUE SALES TAX, YOU'VE GOT A BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY ON HOW YOU STRUCTURE THAT AS YOU DETERMINE APPROPRIATE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR FOR YOU.
IT'S A MORE FLEXIBILITY TOWARD THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.
ARE THEY ABLE TO LIST THAT SPECIFICALLY THOUGH IN THAT BALLOT LANGUAGE? I'M SORRY, WHICH, WHICH FOR THE GENERAL SALES TAX, THE GENERAL REVENUE SALES TAX THAT'S, UH, BASED ON STATUTE.
SO SOME I SHOULD'VE MENTIONED THAT, UM, SOME OF THESE, UH, SOME OF THESE SALES TAXES, MANY OF THEM HAVE SPECIFIC BALLOT LANGUAGE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO USE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY SIMPLE AND NOT VERY DESCRIPTIVE.
AND SO THE WAY THAT YOU DEAL WITH THAT FROM A COMMUNICATION STANDPOINT IS IN YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT THE ELECTION, YOU CAN PROVIDE MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT IS THIS MEAN? GOTCHA.
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YOU JUST CAN'T ADVOCATE A POSITION.IT JUST HAS TO BE NEUTRAL AND FACTUAL.
YOU CAN SUPPLEMENT THIS ABOUT LANGUAGE WITH INFORMATION.
SO I THINK GOING WITH THE GENERAL REVENUE WOULD BE, UM, MORE FLEXIBLE, LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK IT'S ALSO AN EASIER SELL TO THE PUBLIC, UM, BECAUSE WE CAN LOOK AROUND AND SEE ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.
UM, AND WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND DO A TYPE B AT A FUTURE ELECTION LATER ON, IF THAT LOOKS GOOD TO US IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? YES.
SUGGESTING A COMBINATION OF THE TWO, NOT ONE OR, BUT BOTH.
THAT'S JUST AT LEAST HAVE THAT AS AN OPTION FOR US TO DISCUSS.
AND YOU'VE GOT OVER-COMPLICATES IT, IN MY OPINION, A CITY MANAGER WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING IT'S NOT UNCOMMON.
AND WE I'LL JUST NOTE THAT WE CAN BRING, WE CAN BRING AN ORDINANCE THAT HAS BOTH IN THERE, AND THEN IT'S GETS STRICKEN ACCORDING TO WHAT THE COUNCIL VOTES.
IT'S, THAT'S THE, THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME FOR THE SALES TAX FOR A, FOR B VERSUS GENERAL.
IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A MATTER OF TAKING ONE OF THOSE, THAT ONE BALLOT LANGUAGE OUT, OR ADDING IT BACK IN OR CHANGING HOW THE NUMBERS INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER.
SO, I MEAN, YOU DETERMINED THE AMOUNT, RIGHT? WHAT IS IT IN INCREMENTS OF ONE EIGHTH? DID I SEE ONE EIGHTH OF 1%? AM I RECOGNIZED OUR CITY MANAGER? AND I THINK WE DIDN'T EVEN REALLY GO DOWN THIS ROAD, BUT I KNOW THE GENERAL REVENUE PIECES WAS MORE RECENT, BUT THEORETICALLY YOU COULD DO ALL GENERAL REVENUE AND THEN YOU COULD CREATE A FOUR B CORPORATION.
THEY COULD, THE COUNCIL COULD CORRECT THAT AND THEN DEDICATE A PORTION OF GENERAL REVENUE REVENUE TO THAT FOR SPECIFIC ELIGIBLE ITEMS UNDER THE STATUTE.
SO YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO BACK FOR A VOTE IF THAT PASSED, YOU COULD CREATE IT AND PARSE OUT X NUMBER OF DOLLARS TO IT.
AND THAT WOULD GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY TO CHANGE HOW MUCH GOES IN.
AND, AND YOU COULD ALSO, LET'S SAY THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS YOU WANTED DEVELOPERS TO BE INCENTIVIZED ON OR NOT.
AND THAT WAY YOU COULD SAY, OKAY, WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE X NUMBER OF AGREEMENTS THAT GO THIS FAR.
WE'LL SET ASIDE THIS MUCH FOR THESE TYPES OF SPECIFIC ACTIVITIES.
AND SO YOU COULD CONTROL MUCH MORE WITH FLEXIBILITY.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, THAT COULD BE FOR A YEAR.
WE HAVE A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR TWO YEARS OF WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE CITY NEEDS, YOU HAVE REALLY GOOD YEARS.
YOU CAN DO MORE IF YOU WERE LEANER AND NEEDED IT TO GO TOWARDS OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE OR O AND M THINGS THAT YOU COULDN'T PAY FOR.
I THINK I'D LIKE TO GO THE GENERAL SALES TAX REVENUE THOUGHTS.
DO I THINK PRESENT THE LANGUAGE WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THIS TONIGHT? ARE WE WE'RE DOING THIS NEXT, BUT BRING BACK THE LANGUAGE THAT GIVES US THE, THE THIRD OPTION? WELL, WE WOULD ASK FROM COUNCIL HIS DIRECTION, UH, REGARDING WHAT BALLOT LANGUAGE TO BRING BACK SO WE CAN PREPARE THE FORMAL ORDINANCES OR ORDINANCE THAT WOULD INCLUDE THAT BALLOT LANGUAGE, AND WE'LL NEED TO TRANSLATE THOSE INTO SPANISH AS WELL.
SO I THINK IF YOU CAN OFFER THE OPTIONS, I MEAN, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE HERE THAT AREN'T HERE TO, I MEAN, THAT ARE NOT HERE, THAT MIGHT HAVE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IDEAS.
I THINK HAVING IT PRESENTED, UM, BECAUSE THE, THE GENERAL FUND.
YEAH, IT DOES GIVE US A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY.
UM, BUT I THINK HAVING THE OPTIONS ON THERE JUST SINCE WE'VE DISCUSSED IT IS THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO HAVE IT ON THERE.
IT DOESN'T ADD A LOT OF WORK TO, IT'S JUST AN EXTRA PARAGRAPH.
UM, AND JUST REALLY QUICKLY, UM, IT SAYS ON HERE, THE ADOPTION OF A LOCAL SALES AND USE TAX, THE CITY OF LEANDRA AND THE RATE OF 1%, THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO BE IN ADDITION TO OUR ALREADY 1%, RIGHT.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT COULD BE MISINTERPRETED THAT WE'RE ONLY GETTING 1% SALES TAX WHEN THIS IS OVER, WE'LL GET THE 2%.
BECAUSE CURRENTLY WE'RE ONLY GETTING 1% THAT ALL THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMPTROLLER.
SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY TELL US IS IF YOU PUT THIS BEFORE THE VOTERS WILL, WE'LL GET 2% TO GET A SALES TAX.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE IN THE STATUTE SPECIFICALLY.
SO WE DON'T NEED ANY ACTION ON THIS, RIGHT?
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WELL, I, I THINK IT WOULD HELP TO HAVE DIRECTION FROM COUNSEL OF WHAT TO BRING BACK AT THE, ON THE 20TH, THE IMPRESSION I'M GETTING.SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE THE, THE THREE OPTIONS FOR US TO DISCUSS.
YOU'VE GOT THE FOUR B THE GENERAL FUND OR A COMBINATION OF THE TAPE.
Y'ALL THINK, MAY I STILL THINK IT OVER COMPLICATED, BUT IT'S THREE THINGS FOR US TO DECIDE NEXT TO NEXT MEETING.
I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE BASICALLY THE HOMEWORK IS JUST GIVES EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO, TO CHIME IN ON WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, WHICH IT SEEMS REALLY CLEAR, BUT THERE'S NO REASON THAT I CAN SEE NOT TO HAVE THREE OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM IN TWO WEEKS.
THAT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, NO, YEAH.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[24. Discuss and consider action on a Resolution of the City of Leander, Texas supporting developing and entering into an Interlocal Cooperation Agreement with the Capital Metropolitan Transportation Authority for the benefit of Leander Citizens, providing effective date and open meetings clauses, and providing for related matters.]
DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF LEANDER, TEXAS SUPPORTING, DEVELOPING AN ENTERING INTO AN INNER LOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH THE CAPITOL METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF LANDER CITIZENS, PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE AND OPEN MEETINGS, CLAUSES AND PROVIDING FOR RELATED MATTERS.WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT WE HAD ONE PERSON WHO WANTED TO HAVE THEIR, UM, POSITION READ INTO THE RECORD AS AGAINST, AND THAT IS MARCO.
SODERQUIST A 5 1 5 TALON GRASP TRAIL, CITY MANAGER, BEVERLEY.
UM, AS A FOLLOW-UP TO THE LAST MEETING, UH, Y'ALL HAD, UH, EXPRESSED INTEREST IN MOVING FORWARD ON, ON EITHER THE OPTION OF WHETHER REMAINING IN CAPITAL METRO OR OUT ENTERING INTO AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH CAP METRO TO THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY IN THAT PARTNERSHIP.
AND I BELIEVE CAPITAL METRO AS WELL.
SO WHAT THIS RESOLUTION DOES IS JUST GENERALLY DESCRIBES LET'S MOVE FORWARD IN AN EFFORT TO WORK TOGETHER ON THAT FRONT, WHETHER WE'RE IN OR OUT, AND THEN WE'LL WORK OUT THOSE DETAILS BASED ON THE ITEMS WE'VE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED AS KIND OF A STARTING POINT FROM THE LAST EXECUTIVE SESSION.
BECKY, DID YOU HAVE, WELL, I JUST ADDING TO YOUR COMMENTS, MR. BEVERLEY, UM, AS THE SMALL CITIES WERE UPS ON THE CAPITAL METRO BOARD, AND ALSO AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, WITH THE CITY OF LEANDER, I WEAR TWO HATS A LOT.
AND, UM, I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT, UM, AS A COUNCIL, WE REQUESTED THAT THIS DOCUMENT BE DRAFTED UP AS REALLY AS AN OLIVE BRANCH TO CAP METRO, UM, IN AN EFFORT TO, UM, CAUSE MASS TRANSIT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO LAND OR WHATEVER THAT ENDS UP LOOKING LIKE.
AND THAT WE AS A CITY WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH CAP METRO, TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT IS MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL FOR BOTH ORGANIZATIONS.
SO THANK YOU MOTION TO APPROVE THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT.
THE SECOND MOTION, SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUESTION.
AND IF, IF WE DO THIS, UM, AND WE CANNOT COME TO TERMS WITH, IF EVERYTHING GOES AS DISCUSSED, DO WE STILL HAVE THE OPTION? IF, IF WE CANNOT COME TO TERMS WITH THEM, THEN THE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO HAVE OTHER TRANSPORTATION.
IS THAT CORRECT? SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE, IN THE, UH, STUDY GOING DOWN THAT ROAD, BUT THIS WOULD BE AN EFFORT TO, AGAIN, WE STAY, WE STAYED AT THE COMMUNITY, DECIDES TO STAY IN, OR Y'ALL, DIDN'T CALL THE ELECTION.
THOSE TWO THAT WE DO, THE THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD BE MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL, UH, ENHANCE RIDERSHIP, UM, ENHANCE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN ALSO A SCENARIO THAT IF WE WERE NOT MEMBERS AND A VARIATION OF, IF WE'RE NOT MEMBERS WOULD PROBABLY POTENTIALLY LOOK AT OTHER CONTRACTS, SERVICE OPTIONS.
SO THIS DOES NOT TIE OUR HANDS.
IT ACTUALLY PROBABLY WOULD GIVE YOU A BETTER HEADS UP ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THE DAY AFTER.
IF, DEPENDING ON HOW IT'S RECEIVED OUR PAYMENT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU ALL FOR WORKING ON THAT ITEM 25 DISCUSSING
[25. Discuss and consider action on proposed amendments to the Home Rule Charter and recommendations by the Charter Review Commission.]
CONSIDER ACTION ON PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE HOME RULE, CHARTER AND RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION CITY ATTORNEY SIGNS, MARIN COUNCIL.[01:30:01]
BY THE CHARTER COMMISSION REGARDING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, AND YOU HAVE A FEW OPTIONS RELATED TO THAT DISCUSSION.YOU, AS THE COUNCIL CAN, UM, PUT, CHOOSE TO PUT FORWARD YOUR CITY CHARTER.
FIRST OF ALL, REQUIRES THAT THE CHARTER BE REVIEWED EVERY FIVE YEARS.
YOU'VE SET ASIDE THAT OBLIGATION BY HAVING IT REVIEWED.
AND SO YOU, AS THE COUNCIL CAN, NOW YOU CAN CALL AN ELECTION ON PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO, UH, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO PUT FORWARD ALL OF THE PROPOSITIONS YOU CAN DECIDE TO PUT FORWARD.
ONLY SOME OF THEM YOU CAN MODIFY.
AND YOU CAN ADD TO THIS LIST, YOU HAVE TIME TO, UM, REQUEST THAT ADDITIONAL, UH, PROVISIONS OF THE CHARTER BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU TO BE AMENDED AND TO HAVE TO REVIEW LANGUAGE BEFORE THAT GETS PUT INTO AN ORDINANCE TO GO TO THE VOTERS.
IF WHAT IF YOU DECIDE TO CALL THE CHARTER ELECTION, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO PREPARE THE ORDINANCE THAT CALLS THE ELECTION AND THIS, THIS LANGUAGE, AS IT APPEARS HERE, BOTH THE PROPOSITION AND THE, THE CHANGE LANGUAGE WOULD GO INTO THAT DOCUMENT.
UH, YOUR DEADLINE FOR CALLING THE ELECTION IS, IS IT IT'S FEBRUARY? YEAH, I THINK IT'S MID FEBRUARY.
SO YOU, YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF MEETINGS IF YOU WANTED TO ADD OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO WHAT IS PROPOSED TO YOU AND GIVE US TIME TO GET THAT LANGUAGE RIGHT FOR YOU GUYS TO GET INTO AN ORDINANCE FOR THE, TO PUT BEFORE THE VOTERS.
THE OTHER THING YOU HAVE DISCRETION OVER IS THE ORDER, THE ORDER OF THE PROPOSITIONS, THE COMMISSION DID WORK TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS ON THAT ORDER.
AND THEN YOU CAN, UM, MODIFY THAT IF YOU THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
SO WOULD IT BE BETTER IF, UM, IF ANY, IF LIKE, I KNOW YOU HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THEM.
I MEAN, DO WE WANT TO, DO WE WANT TO GO OVER ALL OF THAT TONIGHT OR SUBMIT THAT SINCE WE HAVE TIME SUBMIT THAT TO, TO MISS SIGNS AND HAVE HER PRESENT IT BACK TO US? I MEAN, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WITH THE, LIKE THE MONITOR CHANGES AND THINGS? YEAH.
WE SUGGEST, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THEY ARE, AND THEN WE AGREE OR WE CAN GO THROUGH IT TONIGHT.
WE SHOULD PROBABLY GO THROUGH IT TONIGHT SO THAT THERE'S MORE TIME.
LET'S START WITH, UM, PROP C TERM LIMITS.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE MORE HISTORICAL DATA ON WHY THIS WAS BROUGHT FOR IS HOW IT WAS PUT TOGETHER IN THE DECISION, HOW IT WAS MADE.
UM, THERE JUST, WASN'T REALLY A LOT OF INFORMATION SHARED ABOUT HOW HE CAME TO.
UM, AND THE BENEFIT THAT IT REALLY COULD PROVIDE.
UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
SO I, I PERSONALLY WOULD FEEL LIKE MORE RESEARCH NEEDS TO BE DONE AND I WOULD WANT TO HAVE TIME TO DO THAT.
I'M NOT REALLY A FAVOR AT THIS ONE MYSELF, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T SEE THE Y.
I THINK THE ROLE OF THE CHARTER REVIEW IS TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. AND I DON'T SEE WHERE THERE'S EVER BEEN A PROBLEM WITH THIS.
I THINK VOTERS HAVE BEEN ON THE BALL ABOUT DECIDING, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY IS DONE, IF THEY DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE DONE YET.
UM, SO YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THAT DATA.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S EASY TO OBTAIN, LIKE PRIOR DATA FROM OTHER COUNCILS OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING? CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT OTHER CITIES ARE EVEN DOING THIS AROUND US.
I DON'T WANT TO CREATE TOO MUCH WORK.
WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? SO I, MY THOUGHT ON THAT IS IF WE'RE SAYING THAT LET THE VOTERS DECIDE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET THE VOTERS DECIDE IS KIND OF AN OXYMORON.
LET THE VOTERS DECIDE BY EITHER VOTING SOMEBODY FOR SOMEBODY OR NOT, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET THEM VOTE ON TERM LIMITS.
I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE WITH IT.
WELL, IF IT'S NOT A PROBLEM, THEN IT PROBABLY WON'T PASS.
WAS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER ON C? OKAY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE DEBT
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ON THAT.UM, E THE, UM, CHANGES WITH CITY MANAGER, ANY ISSUES? NOPE.
F UH, TWO OH DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, WHETHER OR NOT COUNCIL APPROVES THEM.
THIS WAS ANOTHER ONE I FELT THERE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S TRYING TO BE SOLVED WITH WHICH ONE, UM, WHETHER OR NOT WE APPROVE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS.
IN MY MIND, THIS ONE IS JUST, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS ONE.
IT'S JUST, WE'RE JUST ELIMINATING ONE STEP, ONE AGENDA ITEM.
I DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT, BUT SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU WANT A DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE BEING HIRED BY THE CITY MANAGER TO COME BEFORE US FOR APPROVAL.
I THINK THAT'S THE CITY MANAGER'S ROLE.
I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE A COUNCIL DECISION IN, AND THE COUNCILS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE OUR ROLE IS, IS SETTING THE POLICY AND THE DIRECTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE AND, AND HIRE THEM AND HIRE THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
AND IF THE CITY MANAGER DOESN'T HIRE THE RIGHT PEOPLE, THEN THAT AFFECTS THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH IS WHAT THE COUNCIL CONTROLS.
WELL, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE I FEEL LIKE I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN MORE RESEARCH OR JUSTIFICATION.
LIKE THERE'S NO DATA ON WHAT PEER CITIES ARE DOING.
UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THIS IS STANDARD, BUT MAYBE I'M WRONG.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD GET DORA? THANK YOU.
I MEAN, IF THAT'S THE NORM, NOBODY ELSE IS DOING IT, THEN I'M, I'M COOL.
BUT IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS APPROVING THEM, WHY WOULD WE TAKE THAT AWAY? ALL RIGHT.
PROP G THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, EMPLOYEE EVALUATIONS.
SO, AND I THINK WE DECIDED JUST TO BRING BACK THE FIRE ONE AS WELL, JUST ABOUT YOUR WORDING.
DO WE WANT TO DO THAT? I THINK FOR ME, IT'S JUST A WORD.
I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR MAKING FOREIGN PLACE THE SAME.
I JUST DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT THE WAY THIS READS AND NOT THAT THE CITY MANAGER EVER WOULD, BUT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO NEED FOR CITY MANAGER TO BE ABLE TO MODIFY A POLICE OR FIRE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES REVIEW.
SO CAN, CAN I ASK YOU, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU? CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN? I WOULD ONLY THINK THAT IN SOME EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THERE WAS SOME, LET'S SAY, SAY THERE WAS A MEMBER OF THE DEPARTMENT OR OF THE COMMAND, AND THERE WAS SOME DISPUTE, AND THAT WAS POTENTIALLY A WAY TO RESOLVE IT.
OR THERE WAS A DISPARITY IN OUR, AND WE ARE DOING A SALARY SURVEY.
SO IF THERE'S A DISPARITY IN THE PAY SCALES AND THAT BECAUSE OF MERIT INCREASES AND THE WAY THAT PLAYED OUT, YOU HAD SOMEONE THAT MAY HAVE HAD MORE TENURE AND RANK AND THEY'RE EQUALED OUT.
AND WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SOUR SERVER, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT SCENARIO BECAUSE WE DO THINK THERE'S SOME HISTORICAL, THERE'S SOME ITEMS I'VE ALREADY CORRECTED, JUST IN TERMS OF, AT ONESIES TWOSIES HERE AND THERE, WHERE THOSE THINGS RESULTED.
NOW, THEY WERE NOT DUE TO, UH, TOUCHING ANYONE'S REVIEW THOUGH.
SO I'M NOT SURE OVERSIGHT FOR ANY ORGANIZATION THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH.
A PERFORMANCE REVIEW IS A SEPARATE THING FROM A SALARY AND HOW THE MERIT INCREASES.
AND SO THIS IS ABOUT EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS, THE WAY I READ THIS.
AND THAT'S WHERE I DON'T, I MEAN, THERE MAY HAVE TO BE, IF THERE'S A SALARY REVIEW, YES.
THAT SOMETIMES HAS TO BE MODIFIED OR ADDED TO, OR WHATEVER, A SCALE SLID ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT THIS, THIS IS PERFORMANCE REVIEW.
UH, THIS, THIS WOULD BE IN MY OPINION, AND NO, GREG'S NOT HERE IS NOPE.
I TEND NOT TO GET DOWN INTO THOSE WEEDS.
UM, OF COURSE YOU GET RARE CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I WASN'T INVOLVED WITH THE CHARTER COMMITTEE.
I BELIEVE THAT THAT THE ENTIRE PAGE CAN SPEAK TO IT.
BUT THE INTENT, I THINK WAS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TWO HAD THE SAME,
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THAT WERE VOTED PREVIOUSLY BY THE CITIZENS IN THE CHARTER.AND THAT WAS THE GENESIS OF IT.
WHY DO YOU WANT TO DO COUNCIL? I'M FINE WITH IT.
METHOD SHOULD MATCH OR BRING THEM BACK.
OH, WE CAN BRING THEM BOTH BACK.
WELL, AND, AND PRETEND YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, PERFORMANCE REVIEW IS DIFFERENT FROM SALARY.
SO DO WE WANT TO, IF WE'RE GOING TO BRING THEM BOTH BACK, DO WE WANT TO ADJUST THAT SO THAT IT SAYS THIS IS A PERFORMANCE REVIEW AND REMOVE MODIFICATION? THAT WAY IT'S CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SALARY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
YOU HAVE ALSO THE REST OF Y'ALL BRING BOTH BACK AND LET'S JUST MATCH THEM.
AM I GETTING CLEAR AS POSSIBLE? BRING THEM, BRING THEM BOTH, REMOVE THE WORD MODIFICATION AND MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT'S PERFORMANCE REVIEW.
I REPLACED THE WORD EVALUATION WITH PERFORMANCE REVIEW.
IF THAT'S THE INTENT OF THIS, THAT'S THE WAY I DON'T WANT TO OVERCOMPLICATE IT.
I JUST THINK ANYBODY THAT'S SITTING IN THE SEAT, THEY SIT IN THE SEAT TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS WILL DO THEIR OWN EMPLOYEE EVALUATIONS.
THAT ROLLS UP TO THE CHIEF OF TIFS OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.
IT ALL GETS FILED AND BLESSED AND CHECKED OFF BY THE CITY MANAGER, RIGHT.
THAT IT'S DONE, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S NO NEED FOR ANYBODY SITTING IN THAT CITY MANAGER ROLE TO MAKE A MODIFICATION TO, UH, POLICE OR FIRE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES REVIEW.
COULD ADD SOMETHING TO A DROP FILE.
I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT MODIFYING THE EVALUATION, RIGHT.
LIKE IF SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, A B, WELL, I'M GOING TO CHANGE IT TO AN A JUST BECAUSE I THINK YOU DESERVE AN A, IS WHAT YOU'RE THAT'S MY WHOLE POINT IS I JUST WANT TO CLOSE THAT GAP.
I RECOGNIZE OUR CITY MANAGER HERE.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I'VE SEEN BEFORE.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE TYPES OF CLAUSES BEFORE.
THE ONLY THING I CAN SURMISE IS AT SOME POINT, SOMEONE WASN'T HAPPY WITH COMMAND AND BASICALLY WANTED TO APPEAL HOW THEIR REVIEW CAME OUT.
I, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SPEAK TO IT ON A, WE DON'T HAVE CIVIL SERVICE.
SO IT MAY HAVE BEEN SOME ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE AN APPEAL PROCESS, TO BRING IN THE CITY MANAGER TO LOOK AT THAT'S ALL I CAN SURMISE THERE.
THERE HAS TO BE SOME HISTORICAL CONTEXT HOW THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
BUT I THINK THAT IF, IF THAT'S TRUE THAT THERE, THERE SHOULD BE SOME OTHER PROCESS TO HAVE THAT APPEAL, RIGHT.
JUST NOT THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN MODIFY IT, THAT IT JUST, IT SCREAMS HR TO ME.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
I THINK THIS, TO ME READS LIKE A SMALLER ORGANIZATION THAN WHAT YOU ARE NOW IS WHAT IT READS TO ME.
LIKE, AND IF YOU REMOVE MODIFICATION, THEN THAT KIND OF REMOVES THE INVITATION TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE CITY WHERE IT IS NOW, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE CITY MANAGER CAN'T ADDRESS AN APPEAL THAT'S, THAT'S BROUGHT, AND THAT NEEDS TO RESULT IN A MODIFICATION THAT WOULDN'T TAKE AWAY THE ABILITY TO DO THAT UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, SOME SORT OF HR PROCEDURE THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT TYPE OF APPEAL, BUT IT'S NOT A CITY CHARTER OBLIGATION.
AND I THINK IF THEY EVER WERE TO GO TO CIVIL SERVICE, THEN THE APPEALS PROCESS COULD CHANGE.
AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO LOCK OURSELVES INTO SOMETHING IN THE CHARTER THAT WOULD BE IN CONFLICT.
SENT YOU A LITTLE WORD SMITHING.
IF WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE OR JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE WORD REVISES IN THERE, WHICH COULD KIND OF MEAN THE SAME THING.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE, NEW LANGUAGE THAT SAYS WHAT THE INTENT IS.
CAUSE I KNOW YOU HAD JUST SAID TO HER RUTH MODIFICATION, BUT THAT'S, I'M SURE REVISE.
I'M SAYING IT NEEDS TO BE CORRECT.
PROP H MAYOR PRO TEM APPOINTMENT, ANY ISSUES I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS ONE? I WISHED IT COULD BE EXTENDED TO THE SITUATION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT
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EARLIER, WHERE THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED THIS YEAR, WHERE EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SWORN IN AT THE SAME TIME.DID WE TALK ABOUT BRINGING THAT AND WHAT IS THAT? WE'LL GET TO THAT WHEN WE GET THROUGH THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE ON THE PRO TEM ISSUE? ALL RIGHT.
UH, PROP I PLANNING COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS.
WHERE ARE WE GOING TO SEE OTHER WORDING NEXT MEETING ON THAT? I FEEL LESS ABOUT, ABOUT, ABOUT MY WORDING BECAUSE I FOUND THE OLD STARTER AND IT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT SAID BEFORE.
I THOUGHT IT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE APPOINTED TO YOUR SEAT NUMBER IN WHATEVER YEAR, FLESH THAT OUT IN THE ORDINANCE, THE ORDINANCE GOT REALLY SPECIFIC ABOUT HOW IT WAS DONE, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAD TO, UM, AT THE TIME IT WAS ENACTED, YOU MAY HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH SOME, YOU KIND OF LIKE PHASING IT IN AND I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT IT WAS, IT GOT REALLY DETAILED ABOUT PLACE.
ONE POINTS, PLACE ONE, YOU KNOW? SO IT WAS, IT GOT MORE DETAILED THAN THE CHARTER.
SO THAT'S MAYBE WHILE YOU'RE THINKING OF SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
IF YOU GIVE ME A MOMENT, I NEED, I NEED TO, I'M SORRY.
I DIDN'T HAVE IT PULLED BACK OUT.
SO LET ME PULL IT UP AND THEN I CAN TELL YOU, THANK YOU.
IT SAYS THE OLD LANGUAGE SAID THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF THE COUNCIL, THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ELECTED AT A GENERAL ELECTION, SHALL EACH BE ENTITLED TO NOMINATE ONE APPOINTEE TO A PLACE ON THE COMMISSION WHEN THE TERM OF OFFICE FOR THAT POSITION EXPIRES IN OCTOBER, FOLLOWING THE GENERAL ELECTION.
SO THAT'S ALL, IT'S WHAT IT SAID BEFORE.
AND THEN ALL NOMINEES ARE SUBJECT TO COUNCIL APPROVAL BY MAJORITY VOTE.
UM, WE REMOVED THE OCTOBER WHEN THE TERM OF OFFICE FOR THAT POSITION THAT P AND Z POSITION EXPIRES IN OCTOBER BECAUSE THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY ON WHAT THE TERMS OF OFFICE ARE FOR THEIR P AND Z MEMBERS.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO, IN CASE YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT, BECAUSE THIS CHART, THIS CHARTER BACK THEN TOLD YOU WHEN P AND Z TERMS STARTED.
SO THAT'S, THAT WAS REMOVED TO GIVE YOU FLEXIBILITY ON WHEN P AND Z TERMS ARE.
IT'S ANOTHER QUESTION I DON'T WANT TO COMPLICATE THIS EITHER, BUT IT JUST CAME TO MIND.
IF, IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE A VACANT SEAT IN BOTH COUNCIL AND P AND Z, AND IT'S THE SAME IS CAN WE, CAN WE DO A CONTINGENCY OR WOULD BOTH SEATS JUST BE EMPTY UNTIL THEY'RE APPOINTED, YOU APPOINT SOMEBODY TO FILL IF IT'S AN APPOINTMENT FOR COUNSEL.
AND THEN THAT APPOINTMENT GETS TO A POINT, THEIR PERSON.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING, IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT, YOU CAN, TO ME, THAT WOULD BE A CONTINGENCY.
IF, IF IT'S A VACANT SEAT, THEN THE COUNCIL CAN APPOINT SOMEONE CORRECT.
IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS NO ONE IN THAT SEAT TO, TO APPOINT.
YOU COULD, YOU COULD CONSIDER THAT DISCUSSED AT ALL.
WE DO TRY TO THINK OF THAT'S A WEIRD SITUATION, BUT IT COULD HAPPEN.
SO IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT, YOU COULD DO THAT.
JUST TO, JUST TO CONSENT CHANGES IN THE EVENT OF, THERE IS NO ONE IN THAT SEAT, THEN THE COUNCIL DOES IT AS AN ACTUAL, SO THAT WOULD BE A SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE, SO, SO THE APPOINTMENTS HAPPEN AFTER THE COUNCIL IS ELECTED AND THEN COUNCIL WILL APPOINT THEIR NEW PNC MEMBER, WHATEVER TIMEFRAME MAKES SENSE FOR WHEN AT P AND Z SEATS UP.
SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BECAUSE THE COUNCIL MEMBER, FOR SOME REASON AT THAT POINT, BUT YEAH, FOR ANY REASON, OR THERE'S A VACANCY THAT ARISES ON P AND Z DURING THE TERM, AND THEN THERE HAPPENS TO BE A COUNCIL MEMBER ABSENT FROM THAT SAME POSITION DURING THAT TERM.
ALSO, YEAH, THAT RESIGNED OR SOMETHING TERRIBLE, HOW THEY HAVEN'T THAT PLACE HASN'T BEEN FILLED.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A NEW PERSON APPOINTING SOMEBODY OR WEIGHTINGS, AND YOU'VE GOT TWO EMPTY SEATS WHILE YOU WAIT FOR, YOU YOU'D HAVE AN ELECTION OR THE LONGEST YOU'D HAVE TO WAIT WOULD BE 120 DAYS AROUND 120 DAYS TO FILL THE COUNCIL VACANCY.
SO YOU MIGHT HAVE A P AND Z VACANCY FOR UP TO 120 DAYS.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE YOUR KIND OF OUTSIDE TIMEFRAME FOR A P AND Z VACANCY AT A COUNCIL VACANCY AT THE SAME TIME.
WELL, AND I THINK THAT RAISES THE ISSUE TOO.
LIKE, DO WE WANT SOMEBODY WHO IS APPOINTED TO FILL A COUNCIL SEAT, MAKING CHANGES TO P AND Z? I THINK THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WHERE WE JUST WANT LIKE A STRAIGHT VOTE OF ALL OF COUNCIL, UM, AND THE ELECTEDS MAYBE.
FROM YOUR USUAL PROCESS, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? OKAY.
I THINK AT LEAST THERE'S A CONTINGENCY WHERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AREN'T SITTING UP HERE,
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WHAT DO WE DO? AND YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE A TIE VOTE UNTIL SOMEBODY IS APPOINTED, THAT'S IT? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.I THINK THE LANGUAGE NEEDS TO MATCH THE PRO TEM ONE WHERE IT SAYS GENERAL ELECTION IN ANY RUNOFF ELECTION.
JUST IN CASE WE HAVE RUN HOPS.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ONE? ALRIGHT.
UM, JAY CHANGED THE MAXIMUM PERIOD OF TIME.
THE CITY MAY CONTRACT WITH INDEPENDENT AUDITOR, ANY ISSUES? NOPE.
MAYORAL DUTIES, ANY ISSUES? I THINK DORA WAS GOING TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HISTORICAL INFORMATION, ABOUT TAKE COMMAND OR THE POLICE.
AND THAT FORTUNATELY, WHEN WE WERE SPEAKING EARLIER, LIKE IT WAS THAT ONE.
NO, WAS IT? YEAH, IT WAS, YEAH.
I KIND OF HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT NUMBER, THAT LITERACY.
CAUSE IN MY MIND, IF THE VOTERS ELECTED A MAYOR, WHY WOULDN'T THE MAYOR BE IN CHARGE? I'M NOT QUALIFIED TO TAKE AMANDA, THE FELICIA IN AN EMERGENCY.
I MEAN, THE MAYOR, I MEAN, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT YOU.
THIS IS MAYOR, WHOEVER MAYOR IS.
BUT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT STATE LAW, LIKE THE MAYOR IS IN CHARGE IN A DECLARED EMERGENCY.
AND DARREN WAS COMMANDER THE POLICE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT OPERATES SPECIFICALLY, BUT IT, IF WE, IF YOU TAKE IT OUT, IT'S, IT'LL DEFAULT TO STATE LAW, BUT IT SAYS IT HAS THE LANGUAGE TAKE COMMAND OF THE POLICE, RIGHT? OH, IN THE STATE LAW.
I JUST ASKED FOR THE INFORMED THAT'S THE WORDING THAT I THINK HAS BEEN QUESTIONED HERE.
SO YOU WANT FOLLOW UP INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT STATE LAW PROVIDES THEN.
PROP L UH, REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT THAT ALL APPLICATIONS FOR PUBLIC RECORDS BE STAMPED WITH THE CITY SEAL.
ANY ISSUES THERE? NO, THAT MAKES SENSE.
PROP M UM, REMOVING THE PROVISION THAT STATES THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION SERVES A SIX MONTH TERM.
WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE WANTED TO ADD? I THINK THE ISSUE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN FIVE POINT, THANK YOU.
UM, AND THAT IS WHERE NOBODY TAKES OFFICE UNTIL ALL THE RUNOFFS ARE COMPLETED.
UM, SO PERSONALLY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGED, BUT I DEFER TO Y'ALL IF Y'ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT YOU WANT TO SEE THAT COME BACK.
I MEAN, IT WOULD HAVE CERTAINLY MADE THINGS SMOOTHER.
IT'S NOT FAIRY TALE IT ALREADY.
SO CAN WE HAVE SOME LANGUAGE ON THAT? YEAH.
I THINK WHEN OUR ELECTIONS ARE OVER, WE SHOULD JUST TAKE OFFICE.
LIKE WHY MAKE OTHER SEATS WAIT FOR SOME OTHER ELECTION TO END, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO WHO WANTED IT? WHERE, WHERE DOES IT SAY TO CHANGE IT? TO WAIT UNTIL EVERYONE TO IT IS SECTION FIVE POINT 12.
IT SAYS THAT IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER OUTSTANDING ELECTIONS THAT HAVE GONE TO RUN OFF, NOBODY GETS SWORN IN.
OH, THIS IS AN ADDITION TO NOT WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP.
WHEN YOU WERE ELECTED, YOU GET SWORN IN.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SEE? DID YOU SUBMIT THAT TO, TO CHARTER FOR? I DID DISCUSSION.
AND THAT'S WHY I WAS SURPRISED.
I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THEIR FINAL LIST.
CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE A GLARING ISSUE FOR ANYBODY UP HERE.
AND WE ASKED WHAT WAS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THAT? THAT CAN WE ASK THE ADDRESS SO THAT THEY DIDN'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH IT? OKAY.
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THE FOCUS WAS ON THE MAYOR PRO TEM ISSUE.I THINK THAT WAS MORE VISIBLE TO PEOPLE.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHY, SO THAT, THAT ONE GOT CLEARED UP TOO.
THE MAYOR PRO TEM THING WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A BIG ISSUE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE FIVE POINT 12.
SO NOW BOTH OF THOSE WOULD BE FIXED THEN.
ANYTHING ELSE? I WAS GOING TO ASK, UM, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT BALLOT LANGUAGE OR WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR COMPENSATION, WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING.
UM, IT IS SOMETHING THAT I SUBMITTED, UM, I BELIEVE SOMEONE ELSE SUBMITTED TO CHARTER REVIEW AND I'M NOT SURE THERE WAS NO HISTORICAL REALLY INFORMATION PROVIDED AROUND IT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THAT'S IN SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES, CHARTERS, WHAT EXACTLY THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, DID YOU WANT TO SEE THAT? COME BACK AS AN ISSUE? OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANTED TO ADD? OKAY.
UM, Y'ALL DON'T NEED A VOTE ON THIS ONE, RIGHT? IT'S JUST DIRECTION.
[26. Discuss and consider action on a two (2)- year appointment to the Central Texas Clean Air Coalition of the Capital Area Council of Governments.]
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION.ON A TWO YEAR APPOINTMENT TO THE CENTRAL TEXAS CLEAN AIR COALITION OF THE CAPITAL AREA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
I AM GOING TO NOMINATE A COUNCIL MEMBER MACULA AND GLORIA TO CONTINUE IN THAT ROLE.
SECOND, YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[27. Council Member Closing Statements.]
COMMENTS PLEASE.AND UH, HOPE EVERYBODY GETS BETTER AND STOPS COUGHING.
THAT'S TO THE RALPH'S HIGH SCHOOL BAND.
I'M REALLY GLAD THEY WERE HERE TODAY AND MY DAUGHTER'S IN BAND.
SO RALPH'S IS HER FAVORITE SCHOOL.
SO JUST SHOUT OUT TO ROSS NOW, NOW, NOW MY COMMENTS PRO 10.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FOR CORRECT.
CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR MAYOR WHO FINISHED HER CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL OFFICIAL DESIGNATION.
UM, CONTINUING EDUCATION IS VERY IMPORTANT AND UM, I'M THE PLACE TO SAY THAT SHE FINISHED THAT AND SHE'LL BE RECOGNIZED IN HOUSTON AT THE TML CONFERENCE ON THAT ACCOMPLISHMENT.
SO THANK YOU MAYOR FOR CONTINUING YOUR EDUCATION.
YOU Q I DIDN'T KNOW YOU KNEW ABOUT THAT.
UM, I WOULD JUST SAY I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT AND PARTICIPATE IN THE CITY'S FIRST MLK CELEBRATION.
UM, RIGHT OUT HERE, WE HAVE A PARADE STREET FESTIVAL.
WE HAVE COVID, UM, THINGS IN PLACE TO HELP WITH THAT.
AND, UM, WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE DO WANT TO CELEBRATE UNITY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I HOPE EVERYBODY CAN COME OUT.
IT'S FROM 10 TO THREE ON JANUARY 17TH AND THE PARADE MEETS, UH, WE STARTED COMACHO AND WE COME A OLD TOWN, SO WE HOPE THE JOKE AND JOYOUS.
AND UM, I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON SAID.
UM, THE PARADE AND FESTIVAL ARE GOING TO BE AWESOME.
SHE HAS PUT HER HEART AND SOUL INTO THIS.
AND SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS COME TOGETHER AND REALLY PROUD OF YOU.
UM, ALSO WATCH THE DAY BEFORE SUNDAY, THE 16TH SEVEN 30 IN THE MORNING, COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON IS GOING TO BE ON FOX SEVEN, TALKING ABOUT IT.
IT'S GOING TO BE VERY EXCITING.
UM, ALSO IT'S A NEW YEAR AND WE ARE GETTING READY TO KICK OFF GIRLS SOFTBALL FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER.
AND THAT STARTS NEXT MONTH, FEBRUARY.
SO ALL YOU GIRLS OUT THERE, IF YOU ARE READY TO COME PLAY SOFTBALL FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER, YOU GOT TO SIGN UP RIGHT NOW.
IF THERE'S STILL SOME SPOTS, HOPEFULLY THERE ARE SOME, AND EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO COME OUT AND SUPPORT.
WE'VE GOT KICKOFF AT THE END OF NEXT MONTH.
SO WATCH THE CITY, FACEBOOK PAGES FOR THAT, AND IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT.
IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY GOOD YEAR.
SO THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE WITH THAT.
OH, AND USUALLY THIS IS THE TIME THAT I TELL EVERYBODY TO SHOP LOCAL AND THINK A LOCAL RESTAURANT FOR DINNER, BUT TONIGHT DINNER WAS PROVIDED BY OUR VERY OWN DEPUTY CITY, SECRETARY PENN, BERG, WHO MADE WONDERFUL SOUP.
DEPUTY CITY SECRETARY WITH THAT, YOU ALL MAY CLAP AGAIN BECAUSE WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 8:48 PM.