Jan 13, 2022 P&amp;Z Commission

UH, PLEASE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON SUBDIVISION CASE 21, SFP 0 1, 2 AND 21 V 0 0 4.

UM, THIS REQUEST IS A FINAL STEP OF THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

A VARIANCE REQUEST IS INCLUDED WITH THE APPLICATION TO REQUEST RELIEF FROM ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 45, A THREE OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REGARDING PERIMETER BLOCK LENGTH REQUIREMENTS.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROVISION IS TO PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY AND ACCESS.

THIS PROJECT WILL INCLUDE A SERIES OF DRIVEWAYS THAT WILL PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY TO US.

180 3, A AND 180 3, A TOLL AS WELL AS ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

THE SHORT FORM FINAL PLAT INCLUDES ONE NON NON-RESIDENTIAL LOT.

THIS PROPOSAL MEETS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PERIMETER BLOCK LENGTH REQUIREMENTS.

STEPH RECOMMENDS TO APPROVE THE SHORT FORM FINAL PLAT AND VARIANCE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

ALL CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE SUBDIVISION.

ARTICLE TWO, SECTION TWO FOR F THREE REGARDING THE ACCEPTANCE AND THE FINAL OF THE FINAL IMPROVEMENTS OR THE POSTING A FISCAL ASSURANCE FOR THE FINAL IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MET.

UM, I WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANKS.

IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? OKAY.

UH, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEEING AND HEARING NONE WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL START THE DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER, MATT, COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, THE CODES, 4,000 FEET ON THAT.

HOW FAR ARE THEY EXTENDING PAST THAT? I AM, UM, I MEAN, IS IT LIKE 8,000 FEET? ARE WE TALKING 4,025 FEET? UH, I TRIED TO LOOK IN THE PACKET AND I DID NOT SEE ANYTHING.

AND THEN CTR MAY ACTUALLY PREFERS THAT WE DON'T CREATE A STRAIGHT ROAD ACROSS CONNECTING 180 3 AND 180 3 A UM, SO THIS DOES ACHIEVE BOTH OF THOSE GOALS.

AND THE OTHER THING IS THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT REVIEWED THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ALL GOOD FOR ENTRY AND EXIT THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS INCLUDED ON THAT REVIEW.

UM, NOT THE POLICE.

OH, OKAY.

AND THEY'RE GOOD WITH IT.

YES.

THIS WOULD BE THE FINAL ACTION FOR IT TO BE FOR ITS APPROVAL.

SO IT'S A REALLY BIG BLOCK.

I HAVEN'T FINISHED MEASURING IT, BUT WE DID RECENTLY APPROVE A SIMILAR CONDITION TO THE PROPERTY, TO THE NORTH WHERE WASHINGTON ROLE IS LOCATED.

UM, AND WHAT WE'RE DOING ACHIEVES THE SAME GOAL, WHERE THEY STILL HAVE THE ACCESS POINTS.

THEY'RE CONNECTED INTERNALLY WITH DRIVES INSTEAD OF A STREET NETWORK.

SO IT'S STILL MEETING THE SAME INTENT.

UM, SO IT DOESN'T CAUSE ANY CONCERN FOR FIRE POLICE CAUSE THEY CAN STILL ACCESS THE PROPERTY.

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NO QUESTIONS, MICHELLE HAMPTON, WOULD THAT BE A TWO WAY ROADWAY OR JUST A ONE WAY? IT'S GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE DRIVE CONNECTIONS, UM, BETWEEN THEIR SITE AND THE ADJACENT SITES.

SO GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

IT HASN'T BEEN ACCEPTED YET.

THIS IS JUST FOR THE SHORT FORM, FINAL PLAT AND THE VARIANCE TO ALLOW THAT.

AND IS THE DOTTED LINE, IS THAT CORRECT? OH, AND THAT'S A 12,000 FOR YOUR QUESTION ON THE LINK.

I'M SURE.

HAMPTON.

THE I'M FROM LOOKING AT HIM RIGHT HERE, ACTUALLY.

NEVERMIND.

I'LL ANSWER MY OWN QUESTION.

MICHELLE ELECTRIC.

I'M OKAY WITH THE VARIANCE THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO WORK WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES.

AND SO I THINK THEY'VE COME UP WITH A GOOD SOLUTION.

SO I'M OKAY WITH IT.

MR. CARPENTER.

THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT THIS MEETS ALL THE, THE TEXT DOT, ENTERING ENTRANCES AND EXITS ISSUES.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, UH, OKAY.

IN SOMETHING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE OKAY WITH.

THAT WOULD BE A PROCESS.

THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REVIEW PROCESS WITH TECH STOCK TO MEET THEIR STANDARDS AS WELL AS A PROCESS WITH US.

AND WE WOULD COORDINATE WITH THEIR PLAN SETS AS WELL.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH BY STAFF.

I'LL SECOND THAT A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER LENCHO, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

CONDUCT, A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING SPECIAL USE CASE 21 DASH S DASH 0 0 4 TO CONSIDER ACTION ON A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR FOOD TRUCK PARK, INCLUDING MINOR WAIVERS TO THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 0.9373 ACRES IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA, A STAFF PRESENTATION, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, HAPPY NEW YEAR CORDELL WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

I DON'T REMEMBER NINE

[9. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Special Use Case 21-SU-004 to consider action on a Special Use Permit to allow for a Food Truck Park including minor waivers to the Composite Zoning Ordinance on one parcel of land approximately 0.9373 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R035579; and addressed as 1006 Los Vista Dr., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Special Use Permit Case 21-SU-004 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

SO THE OWNER AGENT THAT'S WITH US TONIGHT IS, UH, THE FRONT GROUP LLC.

UH, NOW FUNK BROS, LLC.

UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO SAY THAT.

UH, AND HERE REPRESENTING, UH, HIS DEVELOPMENT AS THE PURCHASER, AS WELL AS THE REPRESENTATIVE IS A WADE AND JACK FONT.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS GC THREE C UH, GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

THE PROPOSED USE.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A FOOD TRUCK PARK, SIMILAR TO, UH, OTHER FOOD TRUCK PARKS AROUND THE AREA, THE SIZE AND LOCATION.

UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT .

THE DRIVE IN IS APPROXIMATELY, UH, JUST A SHADE UNDER, UH, AN ACRE IT'S 0.94 ACRES.

LET'S SPEAK FROM THE EXHIBIT.

UM, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A FOOD TRUCK PARK.

THIS REQUEST INCLUDES WAIVERS TO THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS, UH, DUE TO THE TEMPORARY NATURE OF THE USE.

AND WE'LL GET INTO THOSE SHORTLY.

UM, IT LINES UP WITH WHAT THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PLAN, UH, HAS CALLED OUT FOR THE SITE, UH, AS WELL AS COMPLIANCE WITH THE, UH, COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.

UM, SO THE, UH, THE TYPE OF USE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER TONIGHT, THE SECOND TYPE OF USE IS WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

A SPECIAL USE PERMIT ALLOWS FOR CERTAIN LAND USES IN A GIVING ZONING DISTRICT, AND GENERALLY REQUIRES MORE REVIEW BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL IN ORDER TO ENSURE THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE PROPOSED USE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES.

IN THIS CASE, A FOOD TRUCK PARK IS NOT CURRENTLY A PERMITTED USE.

SO HENCE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT THIS USE IS CONSIDERED TEMPORARY AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A, UH, TEMPORARY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THE FOLLOWING WAIVERS ARE REQUESTED ON THE ALTERNATIVE MATERIAL, INCLUDING GRAVEL OR CRUSHED GRANITE MAY BE USED FOR THEIR, UH, PARKING AREA, FOOD TRUCKS, AND A PAVILION ARE ALLOWED AS TEMPORARY USES THE REQUIRED SIDEWALK ALONG LOS VISTAS.

UH, MAYBE DELAYED AS PART OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

THE SIDEWALK SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED AT THE TIME OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PERMANENT USE.

UH, THE MASONRY WALL REQUIRED BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO THE EAST SHALL BE WAIVED.

THIS WALL WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AT THE TIME OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT APPLICATION FOR

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THE PERMANENT USE.

THE SETBACKS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE ELSIE TO BE, UH, AND SHALL APPLY TO THE STRUCTURES AND PARKING, UH, LANDSCAPING, SETBACKS, UH, SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED.

THE LANDSCAPING WILL BE INSTALLED AT TIME OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PERMANENT USE.

LET'S SEE.

SO THE SURROUNDING USES TO THE NORTH.

WE HAVE , UH, THAT SITE IS UNDEVELOPED AS WELL AS GC THREE C UM, TO THE EAST.

WE HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEAD IT'S IN HIGH CHAPARRAL SUBDIVISION.

IT'S SFU, MH, TO BE TO THE SOUTH.

WE HAVE , UH, ALSO AN UNDEVELOPED PARCEL INTO THE WEST.

WE HAVE ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, IT'S THE BASIN CREEK SUBDIVISION AND THEY ARE SFU TO BE, UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH BAGHDAD, UH, STREET AND LOS VISTA DRIVE.

SO LET'S SEE IF WE GET AN ARIEL.

THERE WE GO.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED PARTIALLY, UH, WITHIN THE FLOOD PLAIN AND CONTAINED SCATTERED TREES ACROSS THE LOT.

UH, AGAIN, THE MAJOR CORRIDORS, THIS PROCESS, THE, THIS PROPERTY HAS ACCESS, UH, ONTO LOS VISTA DRIVE AND FRONTS ALONG BAGHDAD ROAD.

THIS TRACT HAS BEEN PLANTED AS PART OF THE HIGH CHAPPARAL SUBDIVISION AS LOT 13 BLOCK SIX, THERE ARE EXISTING UTILITIES, BOTH SEWER AND WATER AVAILABLE IN BOTH BAGHDAD AND LOS VISTA DRIVE RIGHT AWAY.

UH, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.

A DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD WITH STAFF ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, UH, 2021, NO CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL PRIOR TO THE OFFICIAL SUBMITTAL OF THE SUP, UM, NOTIFICATION SCHEDULE, UH, IN, UM, DECEMBER 16TH, UH, THE, UH, PAPER NOTIFICATION PUBLISHED WITHIN THE HILL COUNTRY NEWS MAILING NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, UH, AS WELL AS SIGNAGE POSTED ON THE SITE, UH, ON DECEMBER 22ND, UH, TONIGHT IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, FEBRUARY THE THIRD CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING AND THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE FOR A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.

AND FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE AND, UH, FEBRUARY 17TH, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UH, WILL BE THE SECOND AND FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE.

SO OUR NOTICES WERE MAILED BY CITY STAFF TO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT FELL WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE AREA SUBJECT FOR, UH, THE SUP UH, AGAIN, THAT WAS CITY STAFF THAT MOWED THAT OUT, UH, AS WELL AS THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH INFORMATION, UH, IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET SAYS ATTACHMENT EIGHT.

UM, THIS REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, DESIGNATION OF MIXED USE CORRIDOR AND THE PROPOSED FOOD TRUCK PARK AND PAVILION WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES, ENCOURAGE WALKABILITY AND ADD A GATHERING SPACE FOR THE PUBLIC.

UH, AT THIS TIME I'LL, UH, HAVE THE APPLICANT UP IF HE WANTS TO DO A SPEAK ON THE PROJECT AND STAFF WILL BE HERE AT THE END OF THE THING IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A PRESENTATION.

IT'S VERY SIMPLE, GOOD EVENING, BY THE WAY.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO GO THROUGH IT.

UM, VERY SIMPLE CONCEPT, SIMILAR TO SMOOTH VILLAGE, NOT AS ROBUST AS THE GOOD LOT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE.

UM, SO WE'LL JUST, BASICALLY, THIS IS A VERY PROFESSIONAL DIAGRAM.

WE'VE CHOSEN NOT TO SPEND OUR FUNDS SINCE WE'RE, SELF-FUNDING ON SOFT COSTS WITH ENGINEERS TO THIS POINT.

SO IN A NUTSHELL THOUGH, VERY SIMPLE CONCEPT, FOUR TO SIX FOOD TRUCKS OR TRAILERS ON THE NORTH AND WEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, A 20 FOOT BY 40 FOOT PAVILION IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN DOWN IN THE SOUTH, WHERE MOST OF THE FLOOD PLAIN IS, WOULD BE WHERE OUR PARKING AND DRIVE IS.

THERE WILL BE A BAR COMPONENT WE'RE SEEKING A 17%, UH, BEER AND WINE LICENSE FROM TABC, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST ALL WE NEED.

SO THAT IN A NUTSHELL, IS IT, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? UH, IF WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, WE'LL ADDRESS THEM AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ANY MORE THAN SIX BECAUSE WE HAVE A SMALL RESTROOM AS WELL, AND WE'LL RUN OUT OF SPACE.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR THIS ITEM.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS HEARING? NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL GO INTO THE DISCUSSION PORTION.

I'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

HAVE, ARE YOU SAID FOUR TO SIX? IS THAT CONSIDERED A MAXIMUM? I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THERE SOMEDAY AND HAVE 30 OF THEM SITTING THERE.

I THINK JUST GEOGRAPHICALLY,

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THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THIS IS AN AWFUL LOT OF, UH, VARIANCES OR THIN FOR EIGHT, 10 YEAR PERIOD.

THAT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN TEMPORARY TO ME.

AND THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IS THERE, IS THE TENURE SOMETHING YOU NEED OR AFFIRM ON OR NO? UM, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY LIKE AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AGAIN OR SEEK A RENEWAL.

UM, BUT NO, WE'RE NOT HARD AND FAST TO THAT NUMBER.

GOTCHA.

UH, WHAT, W JUST AN ODD QUESTION.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN 17%? SO THE TABC HAS DIFFERENT LEVELS OF LICENSING.

AND SO THE IT'S CALLED A GB LICENSE, WHICH IS THEIR LOWEST LEVEL OF ALCOHOL SALES.

SO NO OPEN CONTAINERS ONLY CLOSED BEER, WINE, SPARKLING WINES, THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A FULL BAR THAT'S WILLIAMSON COUNTY HEALTH APPROVED.

SO WE'RE JUST SEEKING ONE THAT ALLOW US TO SELL IT OUT OF A TRAILER.

ONE OF THE TRAILERS ACTUALLY BE THE BAR TRAILER OR, OKAY, GOTCHA.

YEP.

FOR TABC PURPOSES, IT NEEDS TO RESIDE THERE ON OUR ADDRESS.

AND THE OTHER ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD WITH THIS ARE THESE THE SAME TYPES OF VARIANCES WE DID FOR SMITH VILLAGE, THE SAME THING.

GOTCHA.

THAT'S IT FOR ME, DON COMMISSIONER ELECTRIC.

AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. FUNK AS WELL.

UM, THE DOG RUN PORTION, WELL, WE'VE SINCE REMOVED THAT, SO WE'VE REMOVED THAT AND I JUST, IT DIDN'T GET UPDATED IN THE PRESENTATION.

THAT WAS ONE QUESTION.

UH, THE OTHER WAS, UM, ON, I DON'T SEE IT UP THERE.

MAYBE IT'S JUST MY EYES, BUT ON, ON, UH, IN OUR PACKET, THE DUMPSTER WAS SHOWN ALONG THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY AND THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL, AND THAT'S ALSO GOING TO BE SHIFTING, THAT'S AN OPEN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION WITH PLANNING ON WHERE EXACTLY THAT OKAY.

BECAUSE THE SERVICING OF THOSE COMMERCIAL DUMPSTERS, UH, IT'S USUALLY EARLY IN THE MORNING AND IT'S USUALLY QUITE LOUD.

SO ADJACENT, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL WAS AN ISSUE FOR ME.

UM, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH ANY, ANY OF THE OTHER PARTS OF IT.

IT LOOKS GOOD TO ME.

THANKS.

I'M SURE I HELPED THEM IS THE IDEA FOR THE GRAVEL AND GRANITE, UH, CAUSE PAVING WILL BE A LITTLE COSTLY.

COST-PROHIBITIVE UM, MORE IMPERVIOUS COVER, UH, THAT YEP.

WHERE MY BROTHER AND I ARE PARTNERS ON THIS 50, 50 WE'VE ALREADY PURCHASED THE LAND.

UM, BUT IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, WE CAN'T GO THROUGH THE NORMAL SITE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS CURRENTLY LONG-TERM WE WOULD LOVE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY SOMETHING ELSE.

AND THAT'S WHEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE TRADITIONAL SITE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

BUT WE HAD TALKED TO STAFF FOR STARTING BACK IN AUGUST ABOUT THIS CONCEPT AND THIS WAS THE ROUTE THEY SUGGESTED AND IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.

YEAH, FOR SURE.

AND HOW, HOW QUICKLY DO YOU PLAN ON MOVING ALONG IF YOU GUYS, WELL, WE JUMPED THE GUN A LITTLE BIT AND, AND MADE A COUPLE MISTAKES.

UM, BUT AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THROUGH THE MINOR SITE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND GET ALL OUR PERMITS, WE'RE GOING TO GO AS FAST AS WE CAN.

WE'RE VERY AGGRESSIVE.

AND THEN FOR THE PAVILION, THAT IS A, UM, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO COMPARE.

SO THINK OF IT AS A PERGOLA IN YOUR BACKYARD, BUT COVERED.

SO YEAH, SO IT'LL BE A SMALL METAL STRUCTURE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING ANYWAY, APPROXIMATELY 20 BY 40 FEET, JUST SO PEOPLE CAN SIT OUT THERE IF IT IS RAINY OR OKAY.

AND, UM, FOR THE STAFF FOR THE TRASH CAN THE DUMPSTER PART, CAUSE I HAD DISCUSSION THAT COUNCIL WILL HAVE, OR WAS THAT COUNCIL OR IS THAT A THING WE CAN TALK ABOUT NOW? WHEREAS I JUST LATER DOWN THE ROAD THAT COMES OKAY, PERFECT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

KAMISHA MOSS.

WELL, THEY ASKED EVERY QUESTION THAT I HAD, BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT DATE WILL, Y'ALL BE OPEN.

CAUSE I'M HUNGRY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

MR. MAY A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UM, HOURS OF OPERATION TO BE DETERMINED WERE EYEBALLING EITHER WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, FOUR TO 8:00 PM.

UM, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD GO MUCH LATER THAN EIGHT O'CLOCK, MAYBE NINE O'CLOCK IN THE SUMMERS.

CAUSE IT'S LATE OR LIGHT THAT LATE, UM, NATURE OF FOOD TRUCKS.

THEY'RE NOT USUALLY OPEN LIKE A TRADITIONAL RESTAURANT.

SO I WOULD ASSUME GOING FORWARD, WE'LL HAVE HOURS THAT START THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY AND THEN AS PATRONAGE GROWS, WE'LL INCREASE THOSE DAYS AND TIMES AS NECESSARY.

WAS ENTERTAINMENT MENTIONED IN THERE.

AND THE OTHER, THERE

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I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS, DOES THAT ALSO COPIED AND PASTED, BUT YEAH, THAT ALSO HAS CHANGED.

I MEAN, WE, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE FUN TO HAVE SOME LIVE MUSIC, NOT BLARING AT NIGHT, OBVIOUSLY, BUT YOU KNOW, TO SOLO GUITARIST OR SINGER THAT COMES AND HANGS OUT AT THE PAVILION JUST TO ENTERTAIN PEOPLE WHILE THEY'RE EATING NOTHING HOTSPOT LIKE, WELL, WE WANTED TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS.

UH THAT'S ALL I HAD MICHELLE WHILE SHE HAD, UM, HOW'S THE LIGHTING GOING TO BE OUT THERE? IS IT GOING TO BE BLINDING? THE NEIGHBORS ARE BLINDING.

THE TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING THROUGH.

NO, WE WOULD LIKE SOME AMBIANCE SIMILAR TO SMOOTH VILLAGES, UH, MOTIF, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME LIGHTS HANGING AROUND THE PAVILION.

I'M ASSUMING WE'LL PUT A LIGHT ABOVE THE, UH, PARKING LOT JUST FOR SAFETY AND VISIBILITY PURPOSES.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE SHOULDN'T BE MUCH LIGHTING BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WON'T BE OPEN MUCH AFTER DARK.

USUALLY.

I WOULDN'T IMAGINE YOU MUST, YOU MUST DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THESE BAND KIDS AROUND HERE THAT EAT THE BIKE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT, AFTER THESE GAMES, YOU BETTER BE TRYING TO GET THE SCHEDULE.

UM, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS BUT MINOR FOR STAFF.

SO THANK YOU MR. FO.

UH, IT, SO WITH THE, WITH THE FOOD TRUCK, IS IT A PERMITTED USE IN ANY OF OUR ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS? NOT AS OF YET NOT.

THAT'S KIND OF QUESTION NUMBER ONE.

UM, COMMISSIONER MAY HIT ON A, A GOOD POINT TOO, ABOUT THE HOURS.

SO BY ORDINANCE AND BY THE ZONING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE, WHAT WOULD THEIR PERMITTED HOURS BE ALLOWED? BECAUSE ONCE WE ZONE IT, YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT, MR. FUCKIN, I BELIEVE YOU, BUT ONCE IT'S ZONED AT ZONE AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE, SO WE KEEP IT TO CURRENT ZONING WITH THE GC THREE.

SO YOU, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS HOURS OF OPERATION WITH THAT.

IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

SO I GUESS IT SAYS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU COULD ADD HOURS OF OPERATION IF YOU WERE CONCERNED WITH LIKE LATE NIGHTS OR SOMETHING TO THAT.

WELL, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY DOWN THE ROAD, I WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

I WANTED TO BRING IN LIVE MUSIC.

I WANT IT TO BE A GREAT PLACE TO GO, BUT ALSO THEY HAVE NEIGHBORS RIGHT BEHIND THEM AND I WANT TO BE COURTEOUS TO THEM TOO.

SO, YOU KNOW, I, I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE SOME, SOME HOURS OF OPERATION THAT, THAT YOU THINK IS FAIR TO BOTH PARTIES.

I'M NOT GOING TO DICTATE THAT.

BUT I THINK THAT, THAT, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A FAIR ASK, UM, TO THE APPLICANT AS WELL.

AND, AND, AND HE'S SHAKING HIS HEAD.

SO I HOPE HE'S AMENABLE TO THAT.

NOT GOING TO GO THERE.

UM, AND THEN, UH, MY LAST QUESTION IS, DOES THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT COVER ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE SEEN OR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HAD TO COVER WITH ADDITIONAL REQUESTS BY SMOOTH VILLAGE, SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD TO COME BACK IN FOR THEIR, UM, TRAILER, THEY WANTED TO SELL ALCOHOL OUT OF.

SO AS IS EVERYTHING KIND OF ENCOMPASSING.

AND I KNOW THE, THE ADJACENT PARTY, I THINK IT WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE, UM, THEIR PERMIT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE'RE COVERING THESE GUYS.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK IN DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE WE FORGOT SOMETHING.

THAT'S WHAT WE, UH, ASKED THE APPLICANT.

WE STARTED WITH WHAT WE HAD GRANTED A START, WHAT STARLIGHT VILLAGE AND THE SMOOTH VILLAGE BESIDE IT, WITH THE OPEN AIR, WHAT OPEN VENDOR MARKET AND THE, UH, THE, UH, PUSHCARTS.

BUT THEY WANT TO GO STRICTLY, UH, MOBILE FOOD VENDORS RIGHT NOW, THE FOOD TRUCK PARK.

SO IF YOU SEE THEM BACK HERE AGAIN, THEN THAT'S BECAUSE SOMETHING'S CHANGED.

SO IT WAS, IT WAS ASKED AND THE APPLICANT PREFERRED TO STAY WITH THE FOOD TRUCK PARK.

BUT, AND, BUT THERE'LL BE COVERED WITH THEIR WANTING TO SELL ALCOHOL OUT OF THERE TO THE RIGHT.

SO WHILE MICHIGAN HEAD, SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

UH, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION AS WELL, WHILE HE'S UP THERE.

UH, WERE THERE ANY, I, I WAS OUT THERE TODAY AND MOST OF THE TREES ARE CLEARED OFF THE SITE.

WERE THERE ANY HERITAGE TREES ON THAT SITE BEFORE THEY CLEARED IT? UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S PART OF THE JUMPING, THE GUN THAT HE DISCUSSED.

SO THEY'RE AWARE THEY HAVE TO PULL UP A FLOOD PLAIN DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS.

SO WE WILL ADDRESS IT.

THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS IS THE ACTION ITEM.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, BUT I'D LIKE TO SET A 10:00 PM LIMIT ON THE EVENING HOURS FOR RIGHT NOW, IF SOMETHING CHANGES, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE APPLICABLE TO COME BACK FOR.

HOW ABOUT 10? HOW ABOUT 10 TO 10? WE'RE GOOD.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH, UH, THE ADDITION OF, UH, OH, HERE COMES ROBIN.

SO USUALLY WE HAVE LIKE A EIGHT TO FIVE.

DO YOU HAVE A START TIME IN TIME? FOUR TO 10? SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

OR ACTUALLY, WHY DON'T WE MAKE IT NOON TO 10? MAYBE HE HIT IN THE MORNING, LIKE EIGHT O'CLOCK IN CASE THEY HAVE A COFFEE VENDOR.

YOU COULD EVEN DO LIKE SEVEN.

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WITH 10 TO 10.

GREAT.

CAUSE NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO TELL US, CAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE THE EXPERTS.

THIS IS YOUR ONE QUESTION.

HE IS GOING TO BE BARBECUING THERE TOO.

POTENTIALLY IF WE CAN BE OPERATING AS IN PREPARING FOOD BEFORE 10, CORRECT.

HE'S GOING TO BE COOKING BARBECUE EVENTUALLY, WHICH TAKES 15 HOURS, 12 HOURS.

SO AT PATRONS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED BEFORE 10 FOR EXAMPLE, IS THAT YEAH, SO IT, IT COULD BE, UM, THEY COULD DO PREP WORK FOR FOOD.

YOU COULD HAVE HOURS FOR THAT.

AND THEN SAY, PATRONS, COULDN'T START COMING TILL A CERTAIN TIME WHERE YOU COULD START AT EIGHT IN THE MORNING.

I DON'T REALLY WANT TO GET TOO PRESCRIPTIVE TO THEM.

I MEAN, I, I'M FINE WITH THEM HAVING, YOU KNOW, PREP TIME, ANYTIME.

I JUST WANT TO HAVE THE HOURS OF OPERATION TO BE 10 TO 10 SERVING PRODUCT SERVING PRODUCT.

OPEN TIME PATRONAGE IT'S FROM 10 TO 10.

YES, I THINK THAT'S FAIR.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER AND THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ELANTRA, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSED WE HAVE, UH, SORRY, FIVE, FIVE TO ONE.

AND I HAD TO DO THE MATH REAL QUICK WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON BEING OPPOSED.

DID YOU WANT TO, YES, MOLLY.

I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR YOU GUYS.

I DIDN'T, I DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT THE TIME PERIOD.

WASN'T WAS THE THING I WASN'T TOO HAPPY, BUT I'D RATHER HAVE COUNSEL OR I HAVE A WIDER EIGHT TO MIDNIGHT, SOMETHING BIGGER, BUT I'M ALL FOR WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.

MY FEELINGS ARE LESS HURT NOW.

CONDUCT, A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 DASH Z DASH 0 3 9.

MOVING ON TO A GENERAL ITEM, NUMBER 10,

[10. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-039 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to HC-4-D (Heavy Commercial) on one parcel of land approximately 4.95 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R031285; and more commonly known as 2999 Hero Way West, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-039 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

TO AMEND THE CURRENT CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR, ONE B SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL TO HC FOUR.

DO YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 4.95 ACRES IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POST, THIS AGENDA WE'LL HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION.

I WAS LIKE, ALRIGHT.

UM, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO FACILITATE APPROPRIATE.

COMMERCIAL USES CONSISTENT WITH THE ADJACENT USES.

HIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED TO THE WEST OF LIBERTY CIVIL SITE AND SURROUNDED BY UNDEVELOPED LAND.

MOSTLY OF, UH, MOST OF THE ADJACENT PARCELS ARE SAM, UH, SINGLE FAMILY ZONINGS AND USES.

THERE IS A PARCEL TO THE NORTH.

UH, THERE'S A PARCEL TO THE NORTH THAT IS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL USES.

UH, BUT IT IS ALSO UNDEVELOPED.

THIS PROPERTY IS RELATIVELY FLAT WITH A LITTLE SLOPE AND CONTAINS TREES AT THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY.

AND AROUND THE CURRENT HOME, THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH MULTIPLE ACCESSORY BUILDINGS.

A DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD WITH STAFF ON OCTOBER 18TH, 2021, NO CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE PROJECT SINCE THE DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD.

UH, NO ORDINANCE CHANGES OCCURRED FOLLOWING THE DEVELOPMENT MEETING, UH, WHICH MAY HAVE IMPACTED THIS PROJECT.

IN ADDITION TO THE NOTICES MELD ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, THE AGENT REACHED OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY OR ANY OTHER PROPERTIES USED AS SINGLE FAMILY USES WITHIN 500 FEET.

AND, UM, THE APPLICANT DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES FROM THOSE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS.

UH, THE FULL REPORT IS IN THE PACKET THAT YOU HAVE.

UM, THE ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP CATEGORY OF EMPLOYMENT CENTER AND IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THIS CASE.

LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WHICH HAS ALREADY APPROVED IN TERMS OF PLANNING, BUT IT'S NOT BEEN THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, AND IT WILL BE ADJACENT TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? HERE YOU GO.

YOUR NAME AND YOUR COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS DAVID GRAY.

I'M NOT DAVID SINGLETON WHO WAS REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT YOU SEE ON YOUR DOCUMENTS, MR. SINGLETON IS OUT OF AND UNABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT.

AND HE ASKED ME TO SUBSTITUTE FORUMS. SO I WILL TRY TO DO MY BEST.

I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY I CURRENTLY REPRESENT AND WORK WITH LIBERTY CIVIL, WHO I THINK JUSTIN NOTICE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT.

AND ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON A SITE PLAN TO ADD ANOTHER BUILDING,

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SO PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY.

UH, BASICALLY WE WERE ASKING FOR A ZONING DESIGNATION AND A USE THAT WE BELIEVE IS COMPATIBLE, UH, FOR THIS AREA IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT IS EXISTING ADJACENT TO IT ON THE WEST SIDE WITH REGARDS TO LIBERTY CIVIL SITE.

AND I THINK THAT'S NOTED IN THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

I DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION, WHETHER IT'S PROFESSIONAL OR UNPROFESSIONAL TONIGHT, UH, I'M RELIED UPON STAFF AND THEY ALWAYS IN MY EXPERIENCE DO A FANTASTIC JOB.

I'M AN ENGINEER, SO I'M NOT VERY GOOD WITH GRAPHICS AND ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS, BUT, UH, I THINK YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

UH, THERE ARE NO CURRENT, UH, UH, CONTRACTS OR ANYTHING WORKING ON THE PROPERTY.

IT'S NOT A SPECULATIVE ZONING IN THAT REGARD.

I DON'T WANT TO DISCLOSE THAT, BUT I THINK IT IS CONSISTENT THAT THE OWNER IS ANTICIPATING THAT THE USE OF THAT SITE WOULD BE SIMILAR IF YOU WILL, TO WHAT'S GOING ON ADJACENT TO IT ON THE WEST SIDE WITH THE LIBERTY CIVIL PROJECT.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE, BUT I PERSONALLY THINK THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH THEIR SITE, WITH THEIR BUILDING IN THE NEW BUILDING THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH STAFF RIGHT NOW THROUGH THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT FILED IS GOING TO BE CONSISTENT IN ARCHITECTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH THE EXISTING BUILDING.

SO WITH THAT, UH, PERHAPS INADEQUATE, BUT A COMPLETE IS I CAN PROVIDE A ADDRESS TONIGHT.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ANYBODY MAY HAVE.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

SO NOW I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

UH, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER MAY I'M GOOD COMMISSIONER MONTHS.

I'M GOOD.

COMMISSIONER ELANTRA, NO QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.

I'M HERE.

THAT WAS EASY.

SO I WILL, UH, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE SIMULTANEOUS MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, BY COMMISSIONER MAY AND THEN I'LL SECOND IT.

UH, AGENDA ITEM 11 AND CONDUCT A PUBLIC HERE AND THEN CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CASE 21 DASH CPA DASH 0 0 8 TO ADOPT AN UPDATED PLAN, INCLUDING THE UPDATE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN MAP, AND WE'LL HAVE A STATE GOOD EVENING.

WELL SECOND IMPACT COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AGENDA, ITEM 11, A PUP.

YES, SIR.

UH,

[11. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Comprehensive Plan Case 21-CPA-008 to adopt an updated Comprehensive Plan including the update of the future land use plan and map; Discuss and consider action regarding Comprehensive Plan Case 21-CPA-008 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

UM, SO THIS IS A CITY INITIATED CASE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, THE AMENDMENTS INCLUDE CHANGES TO THE TEXTS THAT THE PLAN, AS WELL AS THE MAP, UM, CITY STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THE MAP AND COMPASS SOME AREAS THAT WE FELT LIKE SHOULD BE AMENDED.

UM, IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR DOCUMENT, WE GAVE A COMPARISON TO SHOW WHERE EACH AREA CHANGED.

UM, WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR IS PROPERTIES THAT MAYBE, UM, SHOULD HAVE BEEN SLATED FOR MORE COMMERCIAL GROWTH INSTEAD OF RESIDENTIAL.

SO THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT AT THIS INTERSECTION.

THIS IS THE INTERSECTION OF TWO ARTERIAL ROADWAYS.

THE PURPLE LINES ARE MATERIALS.

UM, IT'S A HERO WAY IN THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF LAKELINE.

SO ON THE LEFT, UM, IT'S PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL AND STAFF IS PROPOSING.

WE ADD A ACTIVITY CENTER TO ENCOURAGE MORE COMMERCIAL USES IN THAT AREA.

WE ALSO NOTED THAT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY CENTERS, SO IT SEEMED LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ANOTHER ONE TO OUR LIST.

UM, SO THIS WOULD IMPACT ALL FOUR CORNERS AND THIS, UM, THIS NEXT ONE, THIS IS A LONG 1431, UM, ON 1431, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S, UM, RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CATEGORY ADJACENT TO, UM, THE ROADWAY, UM, THAT'S KIND OF AN INAPPROPRIATE PLACE TO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

SO WE PROPOSED TO ADD A MIXED USE CORRIDOR AND WE PULLED THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER TO FOLLOW THE PROPERTY LINES A LITTLE BETTER.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXHIBIT ON THE LEFT, THAT'S A ROAD.

UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DEBATE ABOUT THE, THE OVERLAP, UM, CAUSE IT MAKES MORE SENSE FOR THAT TO BE RESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA.

SO WAS ANOTHER CHANGE WE WERE LOOKING AT.

UM, AND THIS IS AN AREA WE THINK WAS A TYPO ON THE MAP.

UM, ON THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THIS PORTION OF WEST DRIVE IS SINGLE FAMILY.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE DRIVEN DOWN THAT STREET LATELY, BUT, UM, IT'S KIND OF A MIXTURE OF MANUFACTURED HOMES AND COMMERCIAL, AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT ZONE COMMERCIAL AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE PROPOSED TO, UM, EXTEND THAT TRANSITIONAL AREA.

SO THAT WOULD ALLOW BOTH TYPES OF USES.

SO YOU COULD HAVE THE SINGLE FAMILY OR THE COMMERCIAL, BUT THAT WAY, WHEN WE HAVE THE COMMERCIAL USERS COME IN REQUESTING CHANGES, WE CAN SUPPORT IT.

UM, ON THIS ONE, WE THINK THIS WAS ANOTHER AREA WHERE, UM, IT WAS ACCIDENTALLY LEFT

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OUT, UM, ON THE LEFT.

THIS PIECE IS RESIDENTIAL.

UM, SO WE'VE PROPOSED TO CHANGE IT BACK TO INDUSTRIAL.

THAT WAS ON OUR PREVIOUS PLAN.

UM, IT USED TO HAVE THE BIG MULTIPLES.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL REMEMBER THAT PROPERTY, BUT IT IS, UH, AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.

AND THEN THIS ONE, UM, IS, UH, IT'S, IT'S A LOT ON, ON ONE MAP.

IF YOU LOOK, UH, HERE, THIS IS, UH, AN ACTIVITY CENTER, UM, STAFF PROPOSED TO CHANGE THAT TO A EMPLOYMENT CENTER.

WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF, UM, REQUESTS FOR THOSE TYPES OF USES IN THAT AREA.

SO IT'S LESS, UM, RETAIL AND IT'S, UM, LIKE MANUFACTURING AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS, THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, ARE BEING PROPOSED.

SO WE THOUGHT IT MADE SENSE TO EXTEND THAT EMPLOYMENT CENTER, UM, ALL THE WAY TO THE TOLL ROAD.

AND WITH THAT, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO ADJUST THE ACTIVITY CENTER.

SO THE ACTIVITY CENTER WOULD BE MOVING TO THE NORTH OF SAN GABRIEL.

UM, THIS IS THE, THE AREA THAT'S AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE TOLL ROAD IN SAN GABRIEL.

SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT INTERSECTION.

IT'S ALSO THE LOCATION OF THE, THE BRYSON, UM, FARMSTEAD.

AND WE SAW THAT AS AN AREA THAT MADE SENSE TO BE MORE OF AN ACTIVITY CENTER WITH THE MIXTURE OF LAND USES THERE.

AND THEN, UM, ON THIS ONE, IT WAS ANOTHER CLEANUP.

UM, THIS, THIS RED ROAD HERE, THAT'S THE FUTURE HERE AWAY THE REALLY LARGE ROAD THAT WILL BE BUILT SOMEDAY.

UM, ON THE NORTH SIDE, IT'S A MULTI-USE CORRIDOR.

WE THOUGHT IT MADE SENSE TO EXTEND THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER ON THE NORTH SIDE BECAUSE WE SEE THAT AS A, A MAJOR ROADWAY AND IT WOULD WARRANT THAT TYPE OF USE.

AND THIS PROPERTY IS, UM, AN ADDITION OF, UH, UH, MULTI-USE CORRIDOR ALONG JOURNEY PARKWAY.

AND THEN WE ADDED A CENTER ON THIS, UH, NORTH WESTERN QUADRANT OF THE INTERSECTION OF 1 75 IN JOURNEY.

THAT'S THE INTERSECTION OF, UM, TWO ARTERIAL ROADWAYS IT'S NOT CURRENTLY DEVELOPED.

SO IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD SPOT TO PROPOSE.

SOME COMMERCIAL USES.

THE OTHER CORNERS ARE DEVELOPED.

SO ON YOUR EAST SIDE, WE HAVE THE BOREHOLE SUBDIVISION AND ON THE SOUTH IT'S, UM, LOSS WOODS PRESERVE, UM, THIS ONE WAS ON OUR ORIGINAL PLAN AS A COMPLETE CENTER.

AND I, I'M NOT SURE IF ANY OF Y'ALL WERE HERE WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THOSE CHANGES, BUT, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, DIDN'T WANT THE CENTER ON THAT PROPERTY WHERE THEIR POND WAS, AND THEY ALSO DIDN'T WANT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER TO BE A CENTER.

SO WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THAT QUADRANT.

UM, THE OTHER, UH, CHANGE THAT KIND OF PRECIPITATED US, UH, UPDATING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WAS THE ADOPTION OF THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.

UM, THE MASTER PLAN WAS ADOPTED THE MONTH AFTER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS ADOPTED.

SO THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT, UM, DIDN'T LINE UP WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO THEY UPGRADED SEVERAL ROADWAYS TO MAKE THEM ARTERIALS AND OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS STILL ANTICIPATED THEM TO BE, UM, COLLECTORS.

SO WITH THAT CHANGE, WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO ADD MORE COMMERCIAL USES.

SO WE ALSO, UH, PROPOSE SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE TEXT OF THE ORDINANCE.

UM, ONE OF OUR GOALS WAS TO PROVIDE MORE SUPPORT FOR WATER CONSERVATION WITH OUR ORDINANCES.

SO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, I'M SORRY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL SECTION, UM, UNDER CODE ASSESSMENT CONSIDERATIONS, UM, WE ADDED A REDUCTION IN THE TURF GRASS AREAS FOR COMMON AREAS, AND THAT'S AN AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.

UM, SO IF YOU HAVE AN HOA LOTS, UM, WE'RE GOING TO DISCOURAGE IT BEING A HUNDRED PERCENT TURF.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM TO USE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF GROUND COVER, UM, DIFFERENT THINGS.

THAT'LL HELP KEEP THEM FROM USING WATER.

UM, THE NEXT TOPIC, UM, IS PROBABLY THE HARDEST ONE THAT WE DEAL WITH.

UM, THIS IS AN UPDATE TO THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR.

THERE'S A LOT OF DEBATE ABOUT THE CORRIDOR AND WHAT IT SAYS AND WHAT IT MEANS.

UM, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, CONFUSION ABOUT, IS IT 40% RESIDENTIAL OF THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR OR IS IT BY PROJECT? SO WHEN WE ADOPTED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE INTENT WAS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL LAWN COLLECTOR CLASS ROADWAYS.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE HAVE AN OVERALL IN HERE, HERE WE GO.

UM, ALL OF THOSE CORRIDORS ARE ALONG ARTERIALS.

LIKE YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, IT'S A LONG CRYSTAL FALLS, RONALD REAGAN, 180 3, A 180 3.

UM, SO THE IDEA WAS TO PRESERVE THAT FOR COMMERCIAL USES.

SO WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A MAXIMUM LIMITS, UM, THAT MEANS THEY COULD DO IT ALL PRESIDENTIAL.

SO WE'RE LOSING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE COMMERCIAL IN THE FUTURE.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE, THE REASONING BEHIND IT.

AND SO WE MADE SOME, SOME PROPOSALS OF, UM, HOW TO CHANGE IT, HOW TO MAKE IT BETTER.

UM, AND WE'RE HOPING TO GET SOME FEEDBACK SINCE, UM, YOU GUYS ARE TASKED WITH TALKING TO THE DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY COME IN WITH THEIR REQUESTS AND LISTENING TO ALL OF THE DEBATES, UM, ON THE

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ACTIVITY CENTER.

UM, THIS IS A CLEANUP ITEM BASED ON A PREVIOUS MEETING THAT WE HAD, UM, THAT CENTER ON RONALD REAGAN, WHERE THEY HAD THE RECHARGE ZONE.

SO THIS IS, UM, APPLYING THE CONCEPT THAT THE COMMISSION PRESENTED, WHERE WE SAY THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF, UM, SINGLE FAMILY IN THE CENTER, IF IT'S OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE, DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST THE OVERALL PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTIAL THAT'S PERMITTED.

AND THEN FINALLY WE ADDED A NEW ACTION ITEM UNDER THE UTILITY SECTION, UM, AND IT'S BASICALLY TO PROMOTE WATER CONSERVATION, UM, TO HELP GIVE US SUPPORT AND OUR DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS TO THE PLAN.

UM, SO THAT'S IT FOR MY PRESENTATION.

WE DID RECEIVE LETTERS FROM TWO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT BROUGHT UP SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, A PREVIOUS ITEM.

THEY, UM, ARE ALONG HORIZON PARK BOULEVARD.

THAT WAS THE AREA WHERE THE, UM, THE CONSULTANT PROPOSED THE TRANSITIONAL LAND USE CATEGORY.

AND THEY WANTED TO SEE IT AS RESIDENTIAL WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL WANTED TO KEEP THE TRANSITIONAL CAUSE IT ALLOWED, UM, SMALL AMOUNTS OF LOCAL OFFICE AND LOCAL COMMERCIAL.

IT DIDN'T ALLOW FOR, UM, HEAVY COMMERCIAL USES OR HIGH TRAFFIC USES.

SO THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF AN AREA THAT WAS, UM, IN TRANSITION.

BUT WE DID HAND OUT THOSE TWO LETTERS THAT WE RECEIVED ABOUT THAT.

AND, UM, I'LL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

GREAT.

SO, UH, RIGHT NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I DO HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

UM, MR. HALL, IF YOU'LL COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, THE SPEEDING, THE HARASSMENT FROM PERSONAL FALSE TESTIMONY.

THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION.

IS THERE ANY WAY I CAN TRY TO PULL UP A MAP WHILE YOU'RE TALKING? UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S THIS, THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE, THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE LOCAL, THAT'S THE TOUGHER PART.

THAT'S THE, I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THIS ONE.

I CAN TRY TO PULL UP A MAP ON THE INTERNET.

DO YOU WANT TO PULL IT UP ON THE ZONING MAP? OKAY.

WE DON'T GET TO DEFEND AGAINST IT, BUT YET WE KNOW EVERY ZONING CASE COMES BACK AND NOTIFIES US THAT, OH, THIS WAS IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

COMMISSIONERS.

CLIFFORD HALL, 6 0 4 SCENIC PATH IN LEANDER.

UH, I LIVE ON A SCENIC PATH, WHICH IS THE MIDDLE INTERSECTION TO ARISE IN PARK AND OVERLOOK.

IT STATES THAT BOARD MEMBER FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS FOR OVERLOOKING STATES.

UM, SO TODAY I WANTED TO COME HERE AGAIN ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

AND, UH, ONCE AGAIN, I WANTED TO ASK FOR AMENDMENT TO REVERT BACK TO THE 2019 PLAN WHERE CURRENTLY WE'RE SHOWING THE CONSULTANTS A TRANSITIONAL COLORING, UH, BETWEEN THE SINGLE RESIDENT, THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL, UM, LINE THERE USED TO BE IN 2019.

IT WAS, IT WAS RESIDENTIAL.

UM, SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S OUR HISTORY.

UH, THE DIFFICULTY WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IS THAT THIS IS NOT A ZONED ITEM THAT REQUIRES NOTIFICATION TO NEIGHBORS, RIGHT? AND SO EVERYONE IN THESE MAJOR NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, OVERLOOK A STATE'S LEANDER CROSSING OAK RIDGE SOON TO HORIZON PARK AND NOW STARLIGHT VILLAGE AND ANOTHER SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S, UH, GOING ALONG THE CORNER OF TANGLEWOOD AND HORIZON PARK, RIGHT? NONE, NO ONE EVER GETS NOTIFICATION AND WE DIDN'T IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT I CAUGHT THAT AND INITIATED SOME QUESTIONS AT THAT TIME.

THE MAYOR, SOME VERY, UH, UM, POSITIVE ABOUT MAINTAINING OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO BUILD CONDOS AND TOWN HOMES ON THIS PARK, RIGHT? SO

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RIGHT? SO, SO OF COURSE THIS ZONING SHOULD BE APPROVED.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, SOME OF YOU WORKING WITH US AND OVERLOOK THE STATES, WE TRY TO WORK FOR RESIDENTIAL IN OUR AREA.

IT'S A DIFFICULT AREA WITH THE LARGER LOTS, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE SMALLER MANUFACTURED HOMES, THEY DO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A RESIDENTIAL HOME ON A LARGE PROPERTY WITH A VERY DEEP LOT.

THE COMMERCIAL, HAVING A VERY DEEP LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE IS REALLY NOT NECESSARY TO HAVE THIS TRANSITIONAL LOOK FOR US.

IT'S ONLY THE PEOPLE ALONG HORIZON PARKS.

SEE THIS.

IF WE GO TO A LIGHT COMMERCIAL, WE CHANGED THE RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT WE'RE IN.

I WILL STATE THAT WE, I THINK WE'RE FAIRLY SUCCESSFUL.

NOW TODAY I HAD 24 HOURS NOTICE ON THIS MAP AND THIS DISCUSSION.

AND SO YOU'VE RECEIVED TWO EMAILS NEXT WEEK, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE 40 AND WE WILL HAVE FOUR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AT THAT MEETING TO DISCUSS IT WITH THEM.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE GOING TO DEFEND EVERY SINGLE TOWNHOME CONDO, DOG KENNEL CHILDCARE CENTER, WHATEVER THE COMMERCIAL IS ALONG THAT PROPERTY, WHATEVER THE DENSIFICATION OF THAT IS FOLLOWING THE NEW 500 HOMES COMING IN ON HORIZON LAKE AND THE NON IMPROVED ROAD, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS ARE NOT, UH, VERY HAPPY AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESISTIVE, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT ON EVERY SINGLE CASE AND WE WILL PRESENT OUR VIEWS AT PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF HOURS OF YOUR TIME.

THAT'S A LOT OF HOURS OF MY TIME.

A LOT OF HOURS OF OUR NEIGHBORS TIMES THE COMMISSION HAS TO LISTEN TO US.

AND I WOULD SUGGEST PERHAPS THAT THE RETURN TO RESIDENTIAL OFFERS GUIDANCE TO THE DEVELOPERS IN THIS AREA TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS REALLY IS THE INTENTION OF THE CITY AND THEIR EFFORTS WOULD BE NOT AS FRUITFUL AND MAYBE SPENT IN BETTER PARTS OF THE CITY DEVELOPING.

SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. HALL.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, HEARING NONE.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO INTO THE DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.

I'M NOT SURE.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE HE'S TALKING.

IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS, HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE AREA THAT'S A LONG LAND OR DRIVE.

SO YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, UM, THIS, THIS YELLOW LINE HERE, THAT'S HORIZON PARK BOULEVARD AND THIS KIND OF DARKER TAN PART, UM, THAT WAS PROPOSED TO CHANGE FROM THE 2015 PLAN TO TRANSITIONAL AND TRANSITIONAL ALLOWS FOR ALL THE SINGLE FAMILY USES, UM, AND VINTAGE INCORPORATES LOCAL COMMERCIAL AND LOCAL OFFICE AS OPTIONS AS WELL.

THERE IS NO 2019 PLAN.

IT WASN'T A DRAFT, BUT IT WASN'T THE APPROVED PLAN.

SO THAT'S IT.

YEAH, THAT'S THE DRAFT PLAN.

SO, AND BASICALLY INSTEAD OF THE, THE, THE TAN, THE TAN ZONING, WHICH IS, AND THIS ISN'T ZONING, THIS IS THE LAND USE CATEGORY.

I MEAN, I WOULD PREFER TO LEAVE IT LIKE IT, LIKE IT IS CURRENTLY, UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE MAJOR CHANGES AND THAT WHOLE AREA IS GOING TO BECOME DIFFERENT WITH A FREEWAY, LIKE THING COMING THROUGH THERE.

THAT'S TRANSITIONAL RESIDENTIAL, HE'S CLEAN, HE'S STATING HIS CASE TO MAKE IT NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND IS THAT WHAT IT IS CORRECT? CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY IT'S TRANSITIONAL.

I AM MOST, MOST OF IT.

I AGREE WITH, I, I HAVE, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT HIS AREA SINCE WHEN YOU START, YOU KNOW, MAKING CHANGES TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, IT DOES IMPACT THEM AND THEY AREN'T GETTING NOTIFIED.

I MEAN, REALLY, UH, IT'S IT IMPACTS FUTURE ZONING CAUSE IT INFLUENCES FUTURE'S ZONING AND THE SAME WAY, THE HERO WAY THING.

UM, I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A DECISION THAT'S ALREADY BEEN MADE AND IT'S IN THE PLAN THAT THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN WAS GOING TO KIND OF BECOME THIS EMPLOYMENT CENTER AREA.

I'M NOT FOR EXTENDING THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER NORTH OF HERO WAY WHERE IT ABUTS THOSE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS HAVE BEEN THERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, MOVING IT RIGHT UP TO THEIR BACK DOOR.

I THINK THAT THERE'S AN, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PURPLE AREAS THERE ON THE MAP.

UM, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE DISRUPTIVE ENOUGH TO HAVE THAT FREE.

WHAT,

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AND SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE HARDLY ANY MORE RESIDENTIAL BUILT OVER THERE BECAUSE OF THAT.

AND WE'VE GOT SOME NICE NEIGHBORHOODS OVER THERE THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED.

AND IF, UM, THAT, THAT PIECE ON THE NORTH SIDE STAYED AS MULTI-USE CORRIDOR AND WE JUST BROUGHT THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER TO HERE TO THAT ROAD.

I WOULD BE HAPPIER WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THE, JUST BECAUSE IT IT'S BUMPING RIGHT UP TO THE BACKYARD OF THE RESIDENTIAL, AS FAR AS THE ACTIVITY CENTER SHIFTING.

I MEAN, EVERYONE IN THAT AREA, I LIVE IN THAT AREA AND WE ALL WANT RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS AND BUSINESSES.

AND BECAUSE WE ARE LIKE, WE HAVE NOTHING OVER THERE EXCEPT TO GAS STATION HARDWARE.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S OPPOSED TO BUSINESSES COMING IN, BUT I THINK WHEN YOU START TALKING MANUFACTURING RIGHT BEHIND SOME HOUSES, I THINK THAT'S TOO MUCH.

SO I'M NOT FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE GENTLEMAN'S, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, THE CHANGE.

AND I KNOW THAT'S JUST THE WAY WE DO THINGS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE GROUP STARTED MEETING IN 2019.

I HAD JUST GOTTEN OFF THE COMMISSION WHEN IT STARTED MEETING IN LATE 2019 AND MET THROUGH 2020 TO ADOPT THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS.

SO IT, IT STARTED CHANGING AFTER YOU PRINTED YOUR LAST PICTURE.

SO I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

SO THAT'S MY 2 CENTS WORTH, UH, COMMISSIONER MATCHUP.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH, BECAUSE I GET WHERE, UH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS GOING WITH THAT SECOND PART THAT, THAT YOU DIDN'T LIKE ON THE PURPLE THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, BUT IS THERE ANOTHER, UM, CLASSIFICATION THAT YOU'D BE FINE WITH OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, JUST KEEPING IT AS RESIDENTIAL, SUCH AS MAYBE MULTI-USE YEAH.

SO IT'S CURRENTLY MULTI-USE CORRIDOR AND, UM, I THINK SHE SAID SHE WAS AGREEABLE TO IT, STAYING THAT ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD.

AND THEN WE COULD FILL IN THE ARCH AREA WITH EMPLOYMENT CENTER SUCH HEAVY.

HE WOULD STILL HAVE COMMERCIAL RIGHT THERE THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT HEAVY.

IT'D BE MORE THAN NEIGHBORHOODS SERVING.

SO LOCAL COMMERCIAL, LOCAL OFFICE TYPE USES NOT A AREA TO DO MEXICAN NOW THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ON THE, ON THE MAT WITHOUT BUMPING IT UP RIGHT BEHIND SOME PEOPLE.

OH YEAH.

THAT, THAT, AND I MISSED THE PORTION ABOUT THE MULTI-USE CAUSE I WAS THINKING OF LIKE A, UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, YOU KNOW, OR URBAN MIXED-USE STUFF LIKE THAT.

THAT WAY WE KEEP THE, THE USAGE DOWN AGAINST THAT RESIDENTIAL LIVES.

YOU TALKING ABOUT, IT'S JUST THAT ONE WALL AREA AGAINST THE HOUSES TOO, TO TRY TO KEEP IT DOWN.

RIGHT.

UNDERSTOOD COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, NOTHING AT THIS MOMENT.

COMMISSIONER MOSS.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THEN I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER LANTERN, MR. MAN.

I'M GOOD.

UM, SO I, I DO HAVE A, UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ROBIN.

SO WHEN, WHEN WE CHANGE OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE KIND OF THE SECOND AND THIRD ORDER, UM, UH, CONSEQUENCES OR IMPACTS TO THE LAND OWNERS? I MEAN, IS IT A SITUATION WHERE IF I, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY I OWN A, UM, ON A HOME RIGHT NOW, UH, IN AN AREA THAT CHANGES TO, UM, WHATEVER, THAT'S JUST NOT COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT I CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, WITH MY RESIDENTS AND I WANT TO BUILD A POOL, SO I HAVE TO COME AND GET PERMITTING MOUNTAIN, AM I NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED BECAUSE I'M NO LONGER IN THE AREA, WE'LL DO THE POOL.

UM, SO IF YOU HAVE EXISTING ZONING, SO IF YOUR ZONE SINGLE FAMILY AND WE CHANGE THE LAND USE CATEGORY TO ACTIVITY CENTER, UM, YOU CAN STILL CONTINUE WITH YOUR DEVELOP SINGLE FAMILY.

WE'RE NOT TAKING ZONING AWAY, BUT IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU DECIDE TO CHANGE YOUR PROPERTY TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN IT HAS TO FOLLOW THE PLAN, SO YOU COULDN'T REZONE IT TO ALLOW APARTMENTS.

IF IT DIDN'T MATCH THE PLAN, THAT'S NOT PRACTICAL.

I KNOW THAT THAT WOULDN'T REALLY HAPPEN, BUT THAT'S JUST THE BEST EXAMPLE I CAN THINK OF.

BUT THAT'S WHY WE DON'T NOTIFY RESIDENTS OF FUTURE LAND USE CHANGES BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GOING TO, IT'S NOT GOING TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEM.

YOU KNOW? UH, LIKE I SAID, JUST FOR, UM, LIKE THE, THE CONSEQUENCE OF US CHANGING.

AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IN THE PAPER AND IT'S ON THE WEBSITE.

UM, AND I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY DOESN'T ALWAYS CHECK THOSE THINGS, BUT, UM, IF THE LAND USE CATEGORY DOES CHANGE AND THEY COME IN WITH A DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T MATCH IT, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME TO THE COUNCIL AND COMMISSION AND SAY, HEY, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A BETTER USE HERE.

AND, AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND.

SO NOW GOING BACK TO MR. HALL'S, UH, POINT ABOUT, ABOUT HIS, ABOUT THAT AREA, WHAT BENEFIT DOES THE CITY GAIN BY IT STAYING TRANSITIONAL VERSUS GOING TO NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL? IT'S UM, IT ADDS SOME, SOME FLEXIBILITY, UM, HORIZON PARK BOULEVARD IS A

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COLLECTOR CLASS ROADWAY.

AND, UM, IT'S AN OLDER AREA THAT EXPERIENCED THE TRANSITION.

SO IT WAS PLOTTED, I THINK, IN THE SEVENTIES FOR MANUFACTURED HOMES.

AND THEN AS THE CITY HAS GROWN UP AROUND IT, WE CREATED AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.

SO ALL OF THOSE LOTS BACK UP TO INDUSTRIAL.

SO WE HAVE, UM, SOME THERE'S A CRANE BUILDING.

THERE'S A LOT OF OUTDOOR THINGS HAPPENING, SO IT'S NOT, UM, CONDUCIVE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, SO WE SAW IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW LIGHTER COMMERCIAL USES.

UM, AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DID PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL AS NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL, AND THEY CHOSE TO ADD THOSE LOCAL COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES BACK IN.

AND, AND THE REASON I ASKED THAT, I MEAN, AND I GET THAT AND I, AND I, I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION, BUT WE ALSO BUILT LOTS JUST NORTH OF THERE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE RAILROAD TRACK.

SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BUILD A HOUSE THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A HOUSE.

UM, I, I JUST, UH, I MEAN, IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS AT THE BEGINNING, I THOUGHT IT WAS ACTUALLY FOR CHANGING THAT TO NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS AND Y'ALL CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.

I MEAN, WE CAN INCLUDE THAT WITH THE COUNCIL PACKET.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT WAS ALL MY QUESTIONS.

UM, SO I FEEL LIKE, UM, MAYBE I DIDN'T EXPLAIN THE LAND USE OR THE MAP.

THE TEXT CHANGES VERY CLEARLY WITH THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR.

THERE WAS ONE THING IN HERE.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LIMITATION GENERAL COMMERCIAL IT'S ONLY ALLOWED IN A PRIORITY COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.

UM, SOMETHING WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO ALLOW IT IN PRIORITY COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, AS WELL AS INTERSECTIONS WITH ARTERIALS.

SO THAT MEANS IF YOU'RE IN A CORRIDOR, THAT'S NOT PRIORITY, YOU CAN STILL GET THAT GENERAL COMMERCIAL AT AN INTERSECTION.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE A GAS STATION OR MORE INTENSE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL SAW THAT PART OF IT TOO.

CAUSE I DIDN'T MENTION IT.

AND IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WANT US TO TAKE ACTION ON TONIGHT? DID WE GET IT UNLESS YOU WANT TO PROPOSE A CHANGE THAT Y'ALL NEED TO REVIEW AGAIN, BUT I THINK, UM, THE REQUEST FROM MR. HALL IS VERY CLEAR AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR COUNCIL.

SO THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

I'LL GIVE IT A TRIAL.

UM, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, UM, WHAT MR. HALL SUGGESTED TO KEEP IT RESIDENTIAL.

SO IF WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE TRANSITIONAL RESIDENTIAL ALONG HORIZON PARK BOULEVARD TO NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT.

I KNOW THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND THEN ON NUMBER SIX, THE 2243 AND RONALD REAGAN BOULEVARD AREA WITH HERO WAY TO, UM, KEEP THE MIXED USE NORTH OF HERO WHITE IN THAT SECTOR THAT ABUTS THE RESIDENTIAL 2243 THERE THAT DOES HAVE FOUR TO THREE, BUT IT IS HE, HE WROTE AWAY.

UM, IT'S VERY CONFUSING RIGHT THERE NOW BECAUSE THERE'S THE PROPOSED AND THE ACTUAL ANYWAY, UM, THE AREA THAT ABUTS THE RESIDENTIAL TO REMAIN MIXED USE.

I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.

I DON'T NEED AN EXACT MEASUREMENT, BUT WHAT IS THE APPROXIMATE SETBACK FROM WHERE THE ROAD IS GOING TO BE TO WHERE THAT PURPLE LINE WOULD END? I MEAN, IS THAT LIKE A HUNDRED FEET? IS IT 500 FEET? IS IT 10,000 FEET? I MEAN, ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR HERO WAY IF IT'S GOING TO, YEAH.

I GUESS WHAT COULD BE BUILT IN THAT AREA? I MEAN, IF IT'S A HUNDRED FEET, YOU CAN'T PUT A HOTEL THERE BECAUSE IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION IS A MOOT POINT AND ALL OF THAT LAND WILL BE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I KNOW THAT ROAD ISN'T GOING TO BE AS THIN AS WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING ON THIS, USUALLY.

MAKE IT RIGHT AT THIS POINT.

THAT'S JUST THE LINE THAT, THAT DOESN'T SHOW DIMENSION.

SO THEY, THEY MAY ACTUALLY HAVE, WHAT IS IT? EIGHT LANE HIGHWAY WITH FOUR LANES OF , BUT I'M SAYING IF IT, THIS IS PROPOSED AND THEN WHEN THEY GET INTO THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION, IF IT SHIFTS, I JUST, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE AREA BUDDING THE HOMES REMAIN A LITTLE BIT, THE LIGHTER USAGE THEN THAN THE MANUFACTURING TYPE.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR TO AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD THAT BUILT UNDER DIFFERENT LAND USE PLAN TO BUMP THAT UP ON THEM WHEN YOU HAVE THE CHANCE TO

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SO I'M NOT DEBATING YOU, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THAT WILL BE.

UM, I ACTUALLY WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE IN MY HOUSE THAT HAD THE SAME COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH ROOM TO BUILD ANYTHING THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S BEING PROPOSED TO BE CHANGED.

SO SOMEBODY MUST THINK THAT SOMETHING CAN BE DONE WITH THAT PROPERTY.

SO WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT IT AS A CHALLENGING AREA TO DEVELOP AS A MULTI-USE CORRIDOR.

SO WE DON'T HAVE A INTERESTED PARTY RIGHT NOW.

GOTCHA.

UH, AND THE, THE BLANK SPACE ON THE NORTHEAST PORTION OF THAT, WHAT PRO WHAT, UH, WHAT JURISDICTION IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

YES, SIR.

UM, I KNOW IT'S NOT LANDERS.

SO IT'S MAYBE GEORGETOWN ROUNDROCK, MAYBE.

THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.

CAUSE YOU'VE GOT A REAGAN SOVEREIGN LOOK THAT COMES ALL THE WAY DOWN RIGHT NOW TO WHERE 2243 IS.

AND THAT IS THE LAST OF LEANDER.

AND THEN GEORGETOWN STARTS AT GARRETT PARK RIGHT BEHIND IT.