May 13, 2021 P&amp;Z Commission

SO THEY STILL GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR CORRECT.

IT'S PROBABLY NEXT WEEK WHEN WE'LL SEND HIM THE SIGNS.

SO THANK YOU.

[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]

NEXT UP.

WE WILL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS SIX THROUGH NINE ON THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MEHAN AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINES, ALL IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC

[10. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case 20-Z-025 to amend the current zoning of SFU/MH-2-B (Single-Family Urban/Manufactured Home) to create the 406 Hazelwood Planned Unit Development (PUD) with base zoning of CH-2-A (Cottage Housing) on one parcel of land approximately 2.764 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R036565; and more commonly known as 406 Hazelwood Dr., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 20-Z-025 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

HEARING ITEM.

NUMBER 10, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ZONING CASE 20 Z 25 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF S F U M H TO BE SINGLE FAMILY URBAN MANUFACTURED HOME TO CREATE THE FOUR, SIX HAZELWOOD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH A BASE ZONING OF COTTAGE HOUSING ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 2.76, FOUR ACRES IN SIZE AND MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS FOUR OH SIX HAZELWOOD DRIVE LEANDER, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS, AND STAFF PRESENTATION.

OUTREACH BY VISITING THE RESIDENCES ON APRIL 26 AND 27 OF ALL THOSE THAT ARE WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.

I GUESS, DEAL WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 20 Z ZERO TWO FIVE, WHICH IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.

THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO BUILD COTTAGE HOUSING WITH REDUCED SIDEWALK WITH AND LANDSCAPE TO BUFFER THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO COLLECTOR ROADS AND THEY HELP THE AREA MAP UP.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT.

UM, SO IT'S HAZELWOOD STREET AND HORIZON PARK BOULEVARD HOMES ARE NOT PERMITTED TO HAVE FRONTAGE ALONG COLLECTOR ROWS.

AND THIS PROPOSAL FOR COTTAGE HOUSING WOULD ALLOW FOR ALL THE HOMES TO HAVE ACCESS FROM A PRIVATE DRIVE.

THE PROPOSAL WILL ACT AS A TRANSITIONAL USE FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY USES TO THE INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ARE ALONG THE UNDER DRIVE.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF WALKER BUSINESS PARK PROPERTIES THAT ARE NORTH AND SOUTH ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

THE PROPERTY THAT'S ACROSS HORIZON PARK BOULEVARD TO THE WEST IS PROPOSED AS THE TALEO HOME SUBDIVISION, JUST NORTH OF THE SITE AS THE HORIZON LAKE SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE IS STARLIGHT VILLAGE AND OVERLOOK.

THE STATES A MEETING WAS HELD IN FEBRUARY, 2020 WITH THE ACTING PRESIDENT OF THE OVERLOOK HOA.

SO THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION.

THE CITY DOES FOR EVERYBODY WITHIN TWO ON YOUR FEET.

UM, THE AGENT PERFORMED SOME

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THE, UM, THOSE THAT WERE NOT CONTACTED ARE CONTACTED DIRECTLY.

YOU WERE SENT A LETTER BY MOUTH, AND THEN THERE WAS A LIST OF COMMENTS OR CONCERNS THAT WERE DISCUSSED DURING THEIR INTERACTIONS SUCH AS, UM, FOR THIS USE TO ACT AS A VIABLE TRANSITION BETWEEN OVERLOOK, UH, STATES AND OTHER ADJACENT PROPERTIES WHERE TO NOT BE ATTACHED OR MULTIFAMILY IN NATURE WHERE THE ZONING TO BE PROPOSED FOR THE NUMBER AND OR THEY TALKED ABOUT THE ZONING BEING PROPOSED.

THEY TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER AND THE SIZE OF THE UNITS, THE LOT SIZES, THE EXTERIOR FINISHES AND THE PERIMETER ELEMENTS SUCH AS DEDICATION, SIDEWALKS, BUFFERS, ROCK WALLS, ET CETERA.

SO THIS PROPOSAL WOULD ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED COTTAGE HOUSING, THE TOTAL OF 19 UNITS.

AND IT INCLUDES HIGHER STANDARDS SUCH AS HAVING LESS THAN EIGHT, EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED, UM, AND A MINIMUM LIVABLE AREA OF 1800 SQUARE FEET.

AND THEN IT INCLUDES WAIVERS SUCH AS REDUCED TO THREE FEET LONG, PRIVATE DRIVES AND REDUCE LANDSCAPE BUFFER OR PAVING SETBACKS TO FIVE FEET.

I WILL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THANK YOU.

IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? OKAY.

AT THIS POINT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, JENNIFER AUSTIN, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

THEY'VE BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT.

JENNIFER AUSTIN.

MY ADDRESS IS SIX OH NINE HAZELWOOD DRIVE OR HAYES WAS THE STREET AND MY PROPERTY IS LOCATED DIRECTLY NORTH OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, RIGHT ACROSS THE HAZELWOOD AT THE CORNER OF HAZELWOOD AND HORIZON PORT BOULEVARD ON THE NORTH WEST SIDE, I'M ACTUALLY HERE TO SUPPORT OUR NEW NEIGHBORS.

THEY'VE BEEN VERY OPEN WITH US.

I HAD SOME QUESTIONS TODAY AND RABIE CAME OVER, SAT ON MY BACK PORCH, WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING WITH ME AND I JUST WANTED TO VOICE.

AND I TOLD HIM, I'D BE HERE TO SUPPORT HIM.

HAZELWOOD IS A VERY INEFFECTIVE ROAD.

SOMEBODY'S GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING THERE AT SOME POINT.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INEFFECTIVE ROADS IN LANDER RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF THAT.

SO THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN.

BUT, UM, NO, I'M JUST HERE TO WELCOME MY NEW NEIGHBORS.

THANK YOU, CLIFFORD.

HOW HOPE I SAID THAT, RIGHT.

JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

WE'LL HAVE 30 MINUTES.

CLIFFORD HALL, SIX OH FOUR SCENIC PATH OVERLOOK STATES.

UH, THANK YOU, COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN IN PERSON.

I'VE HAD MY VACCINATION, SO I HOPE YOU FEEL A LITTLE SAFE AT THIS DISTANCE.

UM, AND I HAD THE COVID TOO.

SO, UM, THAT WAS AN EXPERIENCE AS WELL.

UM, I DON'T RECOMMEND IT FOR ANYBODY.

UM, OVERLOOK A STATES.

I EMAILED EVERYONE THIS WEEK, UM, AND RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING, UH, FOR THE PROPOSAL MIKE AND TONY STEVENS OF EIGHT 10 OVERLOOK.

BEN DAVID D BENITO IS SIX OH EIGHT SCENIC PATH, MIKE ALLEN OF 10 19 OVERLOOKED, BEN PAUL AND DENISE BELANNZIA OF 605 C PATH.

MY WIFE AND I HAVE 604 ST PATH AND MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBER OF THE SECOND YEAR, DR.

DAVID REEVES.

UM, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY NE UH, OBJECTIONS TO THIS.

UM, SO AS LONG AS THE PUD, WHICH WE ASKED, UH, THE, UH, DEVELOPER TO SUPPORT A HIGHER REQUIRED SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHICH HE DID AT 1800 SQUARE FEET, EVEN THOUGH THE PRODUCT ITSELF HAS GENERALLY OVER 2000, I UNDERSTAND SOME, UH, NEEDS FOR SOME MARGIN IN CASE OF, UH, SOME BUILDING ISSUES, UH, MIGHT COME FORWARD.

UM, WE ALSO ARE FAVORABLE TO THE DENSITY OF THIS AS THIS IS A TRANSITIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

WE DISAGREED ON THE COMMERCIAL EXTENSION OF THIS PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY LAST YEAR.

AND I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST OF THIS TIME.

UM, IT'S HIGHER.

YEAH, DENSITY.

HOWEVER, LET US ALSO KNOW NOTE THAT WE WOULD BE STRONGLY AGAINST THIS KIND OF PRODUCT ACROSS THE STREET AT TALIA HOME SUBDIVISION.

AT THAT TIME, WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THE CHANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY URBAN TO COMPACT HOUSING OR COTTAGE HOUSING AS A DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE THE TRANSITIONAL METHOD OF COMMERCIAL TO DENSITY, TO LOWER DENSITY, TO THE STATE PLAN OF, UH, OVERLOOK A STATES WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTED.

SO AT THIS TIME WE WANT TO SAY WE'RE IN SUPPORTED THIS PRODUCT BECAUSE WE THINK THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING A TRANSITIONAL PLAN TOWARDS OVERLOOK, UH, STATES AND ADDS TO THE TAX BASE OF LEANDER.

AND WE'RE VERY POSITIVE TOWARDS THAT.

SO, UH, THANK YOU OVER THE YEARS FOR THAT GUIDANCE AND FOR WORKING BACK AND FORTH WITH US, WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND WE'RE WILLING TO SHOW YOU THAT WE SUPPORT WHAT YOU NEED AND THE BUILDING OUT OF THIS AREA, WHICH IS, HAS OPENED FARMLAND.

SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT SENT IN COMMENTS VIA THE INTERNET.

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JENNY ATKINSON AT FOUR OH FIVE HAZELWOOD'S STREET, UM, IS AGAINST THIS ITEM.

AND DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON THE PHONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE? IF NO, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE TO DISCUSSION.

WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER MEHAN.

YEP.

IS THERE A, IS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON WHY THEY ASKED FOR, UM, UH, COTTAGE HOUSING INSTEAD OF SINGLE FAMILY COMPACT? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE SPECIFICATIONS OR THE, THE, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY UPGRADES TO THE, THE HIGHER STANDARDS, UM, SEEM MORE IN LINE WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY COMPACT AND IT DOES WITH THE COTTAGE HOUSE.

SO THE COTTAGE HOUSING WOULD ALLOW FOR MORE THAN ONE UNIT ON A LOT COTTAGE, I MEAN THE SINGLE FAMILY CONTACT WITH NOT GUARDIAN ADDITIONAL WORK.

AND IT HAS DIFFERENT DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, LIKE LOT SIZES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THANKS, MR. COSGROVE, COMMISSIONER ROSS QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER STYLES.

WE'LL LET HIM BE REQUIRED TO PUT ANY KIND OF FUNDING INTO ROAD IMPROVEMENT.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY THEIR ROADWAY, ADEQUACY FEES, ANY RIGHT AWAY DEDICATION WOULD BE NECESSARY, BUT ALSO BE DEDICATED.

AND WHAT WOULD THAT ENTAIL? AND I CAN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, WE ALSO HAVE A NEW COMP PLAN.

I MEAN, I NEED A TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT CHANGED.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THESE UNITS ARE GOING TO WORK? SO THEY'RE SAYING IT'S A MINIMUM OF 1800 SQUARE FEET FOR THE UNIT OR FOR THE LOT FOR THE UNIT.

THANK YOU, MR. HINES.

I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE REDUCTION IN THE SIDEWALK WIDTH.

OTHERWISE I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH IT.

I, I DON'T, I CAN'T SEE ANY LOGICAL PURPOSE BY THE WAY, THREE FOOT SIDEWALKS IS COMICALLY USELESS.

I MEAN, YOU'D BE ALMOST, YOU MIGHT AS WELL NOT POUR THE CONCRETE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE USABLE SIDEWALK.

SO IF, IF YOU'RE DOING IT SO THAT WE CAN SAY, OH, LOOK, WE HAVE SIDEWALKS THEN PUT IN REAL SIDEWALKS OR FOR SOMEHOW MAKING THE ARGUMENT THAT YOU DON'T NEED SIDEWALKS.

YOU TAKE THEM OUT.

OF COURSE, I OF COURSE LAND ON THE SIDE OF, WE NEED THE SIDEWALKS AND THUS THEY SHOULD MEET THE STANDARD OF A STANDARD STREET.

SO THAT'S MY ONLY ISSUE WITH IT.

I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UM, ONE IS THERE'S ONLY ONE ENTRY IS FIRE.

WITH THAT.

AND PLEASE, WELL, WE'LL BE REVIEWING IT.

THEY DO HAVE A MINIMUM, I MEAN, A MAXIMUM OF 30 UNITS THAT ARE ALLOWED ON ONE ACCESS POINT.

I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I WONDER IF STAFF COULD SPEAK TO WHY IT DOESN'T HAVE AN EXIT ONTO HAZEL ONTO A HORIZON PARK BOULEVARD.

IT WAS A SPACING, A DISTANCE FROM THE, FROM THE SO THERE'S DRIVEWAY DISTANCES THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET.

SO DRUNK BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE DRIVE ON THE OTHER HAND, IF THEY HAD A REAL STREET IN THERE, I GUESS, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE THE SAME REQUIREMENT, BUT IT DIDN'T NEED IT SINCE IT'S ON A COLLECTOR, THEY HAVE HIGHER SPACING DISTANCES.

AND THESE ARE TWO CAR GARAGE PRODUCTS WITH TWO CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY.

UM, THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR WAIVERS ON THE PARKING SIDE.

IT WOULD BE WHATEVER'S REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE.

SO FOR PARKS SPACE, CAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AND IT'S VERY LIMITED AS FAR AS PARKING IN THE STREETS.

THIS HASN'T BEEN REVIEWED.

THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THEY PROVIDED AS A CONCEPTUAL TO THEIR, THE PUBLIC OUTREACH, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN REVIEWED AND THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY WAIVER.

SO WHATEVER IT DEPENDS ON THE BEDROOMS THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO APPLAUD THE DEVELOPER FOR ACTUALLY GOING DOOR TO DOOR AND GOING WAY OUT OF YOUR WAY TO ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS BY THE RESIDENTS.

UH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE INTENDED BY INSTITUTING THAT ROLE.

SO THIS IS THE APPLICANT HERE.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY, WHY YOU WANT ONLY THREE FOOT SIDEWALKS PLEASE? ALL RIGHT, MARK.

HOW ARE YOU, HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING? UM, THE THREE FOOT SIDEWALKS ON THE INTERIOR? THE EXTERIOR IS A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK THAT TIES INTO THE SIDEWALK NEXT DOOR.

IT'S FIVE FEET IN FRONT OF THE, OF THE COMMERCIAL SECTION.

AND THEN THERE'S A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK THAT IS GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED DOWN THE HORIZON PARK.

SO THREE FOOT SIDEWALK JUST TO ACCESS FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS THE PARK.

UM, WE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING SOMETHING LESS PERVIOUS AND MAYBE, MAYBE SOME CRUSHED GRANITE WITH THE ARDEN.

UM, BUT THREE FOOT SIDEWALK JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS TO GET DOWN TO THE PARK.

AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, ONE OF THE UNITS IS

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2050 SQUARE FEET.

THE OTHER ONE'S 2150.

THEY'RE ABOUT A HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT DIFFERENCE, TWO CAR GARAGES.

UM, THEY'RE NINE FOOT BY EIGHT FOOT GARAGE DOORS, SO YOU CAN GET A CAR ON IT.

UM, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE SPLIT.

SO THERE'S TWO GARAGE DOORS AND THERE'LL BE ORNATE DECORATIVE GARAGE DOORS.

BUT DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH.

I'M SORRY.

OR YOU HAVE A QUESTION, ARE YOU OPPOSED? SORRY.

ARE YOU OPPOSED TO MAKING A WIDER SIDEWALK, UH, WITH ALL THE DEDICATIONS OUT ON THE STREET? UM, WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO DOING THAT.

WE WANTED TO MAKE AS MUCH DRIVEWAY AS POSSIBLE.

UM, SO YOU COULD GET A SIZED VEHICLE IN THE DRIVEWAY THAT WAS KIND OF WHERE WE WERE STRUGGLING, BUT IF WE NEEDED TO MAKE IT A FOOT WIDER AND SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE ON SIX INCHES ON EACH SIDE, THAT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

CAN I ASK STAFF REAL QUICK? UM, DOES THE WAY THE PUNT IS WRITTEN, IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS FOR THE SIDEWALK.

SO BY DEFAULT IN THIS POT, IT WOULD REQUIRE A BEING PAVED.

NOW I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT BEING DECOMPOSED, GRANTED FOR THE INTERIOR ONES.

AND THAT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE WAY TO REDUCE THE COST SOME, AND THEN WE INCREASE THE WIDTH.

SO THEY'RE FUNCTIONAL USEFUL.

SO THAT WOULD, THAT'S A REASONABLE SUGGESTION ON MY END BECAUSE WE COULD ACTUALLY DO SOME LANDSCAPE, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD LOOK NICE.

THAT'S TRUE.

THAT DOES.

IT WAS ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY TOO.

SO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY, WHETHER YOU PAVE IT AT THREE FEET OR DO YOU DO DECOMPOSE, CORRECT? YEAH.

BY THE TIME YOU BASE IT OUT AND, AND PUT SOMETHING, CAUSE YOU, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO HOLD EACH SIDE OF THE GRANITE.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF MASONRY UNIT OR SOMETHING TO HOLD THAT IN AT A LEDGERS.

SO, UH, YEAH, FLAT FLAT WORKS PRETTY CHEAP.

JUST CONCRETE, I GUESS, IF YOU WANT TO, I'M SIMPLY SAYING, I DON'T MIND IT BEING IN THE POT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU PREFER, BUT I CERTAINLY THINK THAT THE SIDEWALK WITH, TO BE FUNCTIONAL FOR A PAIR OF HUMANS WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK IS THE BARE MINIMUM THAT'S NEEDED.

SO THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

SO I, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, WITH THE CHANGE TO THE SIDEWALKS NOT BE REDUCED IN WITH, BUT THAT THE, UH, DEVELOPER HAVE THE OPTION OF, UH, USING AN ALTERNATIVE PAVING MATERIAL FOR THE INTERIOR SIDEWALKS, THE ONES INTERIOR TO THE PROPERTY.

I'LL SECOND.

LET ME HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HEINZ.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MANN, ALL IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[11. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case 20-Z-037 to amend Phase 2 of the Valley Vista East Planned Unit Development (PUD) with the base zoning of SFL-2-A (Single-Family Limited), Subdivision Case 20-CP-013 to adopt the Valley Vista East Phase 2 Concept Plan, and Subdivision Case 20-PP-027 to adopt the Valley Vista East Phase 2 Preliminary Plat on one parcel of land approximately 35.54 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R021710; and generally located south of Gabriels Horn Rd. and east of Ronald W. Reagan Blvd., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 20-Z-037, 20-CP-013, and 20-PP-027 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM.

NUMBER 11.

WE WILL CONDUCT A PRIVATE HEARING REGARDING ZONING CASE 20 Z ZERO 37 TO AMEND PHASE TWO OF THE VALLEY VISTA EAST PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE BASE ZONING OF S F L TO A SINGLE FAMILY LIMITED SUBDIVISION CASE TO ADOPT THE VALLEY VISTA EAST PHASE TWO CONCEPT PLAN AND THE SUBDIVISION CASE 20 P ZERO 27 TO ADOPT THE VALLEY VISTA EAST PHASE TWO PRELIMINARY PLAT ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 35.5, FOUR ACRES IN SIZE AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL, UH, LOCATED SOUTH OF SAN GABRIEL HORN ROAD AND EAST OF ROME W REAGAN BOULEVARD AND THE ANDREW WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENT.

PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH IS THE SAN GABRIEL RIVER, WHICH IS CURRENTLY TO THE SOUTH OF SINGER WHERE RIVERS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.

WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 20 ZERO THREE SEVEN AND SUBDIVISION CASES, 20 CPS ZERO ONE THREE AND 20 P P ZERO TWO SEVEN.

AND THIS REQUEST WILL BE THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS AS WELL AS THE FIRST TWO STEPS IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

THE ORIGINAL PRELIMINARY PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED WAS REMOVING A TOTAL OF 1,934 CALIPER INCHES IN PHASE TWO.

THE CURRENT PROPOSAL INCLUDES 736 CALIBER INCHES BEING REMOVED IN PHASE TWO.

SO THIS PROPOSAL WOULD DECREASE THE CALIPER INCHES BEING REMOVED BY 1,198 INCHES.

THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO AMEND PHASE TWO OF THE CURRENTLY APPROVED VALLEY VISTA EAST PUD IN ORDER TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ALLEYS AND STREET TREES AND PROVIDING A SIDEWALK ALONG ONLY ONE SIDE OF THE PRIVATE STREETS AND ADJUSTING THE SETBACKS.

THE VALLEY VISTA EAST PAD WAS APPROVED ON JUNE 1ST, 2017 TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY ALLEY LOADED PRODUCT.

SINCE THEN, THERE HAS BEEN AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT THAT HAS REMOVED THE REQUIREMENTS FOR STREET TREES.

PHASE ONE, TWO, THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED WITH STREET TREES AND ALLEYS PHASE TWO WOULD DIFFER BY NOT HAVING STREET TREES IN ALLEYS.

THE ALLEYS THAT WILL NOT BE CONTINUED WE'LL END WHERE THEY WERE COMPLETED IN PHASE ONE, THE STREET TREES, THE SORRY, PUBLIC STREETS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH PHASE TWO AND THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AND PHASE TWO WE'LL CONTINUE THE STREET TREES ALONG THE NEW PUBLIC OR PRIVATE WELL NOT CONTINUE STREET TREES ALONG PUBLIC OR PRIVATE STREETS.

PRIVATE STREETS WILL HAVE SIDEWALKS ON ONLY ONE SIDE WHILE THE PUBLIC STREETS WILL CONTINUE HAVING SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES.

SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED TO THE EAST OF THE EXISTING PHASE.

ONE BLUFF.

YOU IS LOCATED TO THE EAST OF THE SITE ALONG GABRIEL'S HORN ROAD.

AND THEN THERE'S RANCHO SIENNA LOCATED NORTH OF THE SITE.

THE

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AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE PROPOSED GARLOCK TRACK SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS LOCATED BETWEEN VALLEY VISTA EAST AND, UM, BLUFF VIEW.

SO THE SUBDIVISIONS CASES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR THIS PROPERTY INCLUDES THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR VALLEY VISTA EAST.

AND THOSE WILL BE AMENDED WITH THIS REQUEST.

SO ALL RESIDENTS WITHIN 500 FEET WERE NOTIFIED IN ADDITION TO THE ONES WITHIN 200 FEET, THERE WERE NOTIFIED BY THE STAFF AND THEY WERE MAILED BY THE APPLICANT ON APRIL 28TH OF 2021, NO COMMENTS OR CONCERNS WERE BROUGHT UP AT THE TIME THAT THIS REPORT WAS DRAFTED.

AND THIS PILOT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING CHANGES FROM THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED POD, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE REMOVING THE ALLEY REQUIREMENT, REMOVING STREET TREE REQUIREMENTS, REMOVING SIDEWALKS SO THAT THEY ARE ONLY INSTALLED ON ONE SIDE OF THE PRIVATE STREETS AND ADJUSTING THE SETBACKS TO REMOVE THE ALLEY SETBACKS AND THE PRIVATE STREETS SETBACKS.

IT WILL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THANK YOU.

WE HAVE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

I'M MATT VOSS.

I WORKED FOR THE DEVELOPER GFL HOME.

UM, ONLY THING I WOULD ADD TO CORRINA'S PRESENTATION IS THAT, UH, WE'RE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING THE DENSITY ON THE SITE.

UH, SO AS, AS CURRENTLY APPROVED, I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BUILD 174, UH, 25 FOOT WIDE UNITS.

AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO BUILD 97, 50 FOOT WIDE UNITS, UH, WITH A SQUARE FOOTAGE BETWEEN 2,440 200 SQUARE FEET.

UM, UH, ASIDE FROM THAT, UH, OPEN FOR QUESTIONS FROM YELLOW, THE PUBLIC.

WE WILL, AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF THEM.

IS ANYBODY ON THE PHONE OR IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF THEM? AT THIS POINT WE WILL SIT.

MA'AM.

I'M SORRY.

IF YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE, THREE MINUTES.

MY NAME IS AND I LIVE ON THE SUBJECT IN THAT PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION ON A 28, 12 SENECA PATH.

I'M IGNORANT TO ALL YOUR TERMINOLOGY AND YOUR ACRONYMS. OKAY.

SO YOU NEED TO BE VERY, YOU NEED TO HELP ME ON THIS.

I HAVE A CONCERN ON SIDE COMPONENT TYPE NUMBER TWO ON THE LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED.

REGARDING THE, UH, FOUR, 400,000 MULTIFAMILY, WHICH PROVIDES, UH, 35% OF THE UNITS.

MY, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THAT MULTIFAMILY MEANS APARTMENTS.

AM I INCORRECT AND INTERPRETING THAT MULTI-FAMILY DOES MEAN APARTMENTS? I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT IT'S IN, IT'S IN THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED AND THAT'S MY CONCERN.

SO IF THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEN WE NEED TO CROSS THAT OUT ON THE PROPOSAL.

I HAVE A BIG CONCERN THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE, THE, UH, THE IMPORTANCE ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL CALL THE GENTLEMAN JUST ADDRESSED IT.

UM, HIGH DENSITY, LOW DENSITY.

I BELIEVE I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY.

YOU WANT TO KIND OF MAKE A BEAUTIFUL TRANSITION TO THAT.

BUT NOT WITH MULTIFAMILY ISSUES THAT WILL DEPLETE NOT ONLY OR EVALUATION OF OUR HOMES, BUT IT WILL CREATE OTHER ISSUES AS YOU.

AND I KNOW WHAT MULTI-FAMILY DOES TO COMMUNITIES.

SO CAN SOMEBODY ADDRESS IT? WE CAN, AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IS DONE, UM, ROBIN CAN ADDRESS THAT DACA.

WOULD I BE SPEAKING WITH, UM, SHE'LL, SHE'LL ADDRESS IT RIGHT AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, THE OTHER THING ON A SECTION, FORGET MY PHONE, UH, SECTION ON, UM, I DUNNO, WHAT PAGE TWO OF THREE IT'S ON THE USE OF COMPONENTS? WHAT DO YOU MEAN ABOUT, UH, TO INCLUDE LOCAL 600 FEET OF PARKLAND, OTHER OR OTHER REQUIRED OR OPEN SPACES OR TRANSIT OPPORTUNITIES? WHAT DOES TRANSIT OPPORTUNITIES MEAN? SHE'LL ADDRESS THAT AGAIN, AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU HAD TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE LOCAL LAY PERSON DOES NOT UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS.

AND SO IT WOULD BE NICE THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WHEN YOU ADDRESS THESE OR REWRITE THEM THAT PARENTHESES, THIS IS WHAT THIS MEANS.

OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE TOWNHOMES? IT IS NOT VERY CLEAR TO ME BECAUSE IF THEY WERE CONDOS OR TOWNHOMES, THEN IT REALLY WOULD KIND OF RUN INTO SAME SPECIFIC AND IT WOULD BLEND IN WITH US, BUT IT IS NOT CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THAT IS ADDRESSING.

UM, UNDER USE OF COMPONENTS, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING 300 SWEARS FIVE, 3,500 SQUARE FEET, LOT LIMIT 900 SQUARE FEET OF LIVING SPACE.

UH, IS THAT COMPARABLE TO WHERE I AM LIVING? OR ARE THOSE GOING TO BE ALSO CONDOS

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CAN YOU SPEAK AGAIN? IT'S GOING TO BE, THANK YOU.

IF NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK ON IT IN THE NO-NO IT WAS ON THE PHONE.

THEY WANT TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE AND YES, SIR.

I, UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

HI, UH, MY NAME IS MARY LEECH.

I LIVE AT 28 44 CYNICAL PATH IN PHASE ONE.

AND, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, UH, THE END OF THE ALLEY WHEN THEY, UH, WHERE THEY END, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE THERE? ARE THEY STILL GOING TO HAVE JUST THE BARRICADES WITH THE, UH, UH, THE WARNING, UH, TYPE MATERIAL ON THERE? OR ARE THEY GOING TO PUT UP SOME SORT OF A FENCE OR WALL? DO YOU KNOW HOW THEY'RE DOING THAT? UH, THEY CAN ASK THE APPLICANT AS SOON AS THE PUBLIC HEARING IS FINISHED.

DID YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS WE ARE THE LAST HOUSE ON THE, UH, IN THE PHASE ON THE MAIN RIVER.

AND ORIGINALLY THERE WAS A, A SPECIFICATION FOR THE THREE MORE OF THE CONDO TYPE HOUSES.

LIKE WE HAVE TO BE ADDED NEXT TO US.

AND THAT LOOKING AT THE PLAT OF THE NEW PHASE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A QUARTER, AN ACRE SPOT THERE BEFORE THE DRAINAGE, UH, SYSTEM THAT COMES IN IS GOING TO GO DOWN INTO THE SECOND, UM, UH, WATER RESERVOIR, RESERVOIR.

YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE, UH, IS THERE GOING TO BE A HOME BUILT THERE OR IS THAT GOING TO BE PART OF THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM? UH, WE WILL ASK THE APPLICANT THAT AS SOON AS THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OVER.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSION THE CHAIRMAN.

CAN YOU PLEASE ASK HER TO STATE HER NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? SO I HAVE IT FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

MA'AM THAT WAS JUST ON THE CALLER.

COULD YOU RESTATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS SO THAT IT COULD BE ADDED TO THE RIGHT? YES, SIR.

YES, SIR.

MY NAME IS MARY .

I LIVE AT TWO EIGHT 44 SENECA PATH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

WELL, AT THIS POINT WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BEFORE DISCUSSION, I GUESS WE WILL GET THOSE, UH, ANSWER QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

I DIDN'T WRITE THEM DOWN.

SORRY.

I DON'T REMEMBER ALL OF THEM.

ALTERNATIVE TREATMENT THEY WANTED TO PROPOSE.

I CAN DO IT.

UM, SO IN THE, THE SUMMARY THAT WAS SENT OUT TO ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, IT GIVES YOU AN OUTLINE OF THE THREE DIFFERENT, UM, PARTS OF THE ZONING DISTRICT.

SO YOU HAVE THE USE, THE SITE AND THE ARCHITECTURE.

THESE HAVE A TYPE TWO SITE COMPONENT, AND THE WAY THAT READS, UM, IT EXPLAINS ALL OPTIONS THAT GO WITH TYPE TWO.

SO IF YOU COMBINE THE TYPE TWO COMPONENT WITH THAT SINGLE FAMILY USE COMPONENT, IT DOES NOT ALLOW MULTIFAMILY.

IT DOES NOT ALLOW COMMERCIAL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO YOU ONLY LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS FOR THE ACTUAL SINGLE FAMILY.

SO REALLY ALL IT SPEAKS TO WOULD BE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.

SO IF YOU HAD A SHED IN YOUR BACKYARD, SO THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC TO ONLY BE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.

AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE UNITS AND THE ONES IN PHASE ONE WOULD BE, THEY'RE NOT ALLEY LOADED.

SO THEY'LL HAVE A GARAGE IN FRONT WITH THE DRIVEWAY, AND THEY ALSO WON'T HAVE STREET TREES.

AND THE STREET TREES, THE TREE BETWEEN THE CURB AND THE SIDEWALK, THEY WOULD HAVE A TREE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK.

AND THE OTHER QUESTION WAS FOR THE APPLICANTS ABOUT THE TREATMENT OF THE, THE ALLEY, WHERE IT ENDED AND ADDING ADDITIONAL HOUSES, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND ANSWER THAT ONE, BELIEVE IN THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE GOING FROM ONE OR A WAS THREE UNITS PREVIOUSLY TO ONE UNIT.

I THINK IF I'M LOOKING AT IT CORRECTLY, IT'S BASICALLY THE SOUTHWEST CORNER RIGHT THERE, THAT LITTLE BOX, AND THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE, UH, AND THEN, UH, IN TERMS OF ENDING THE ALLEYS, A BELIEVER, WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO KEEP THE BARRICADES IN PLACE, BUT THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BE PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS NOW THAT IT ABUTS, CORRECT, BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE THE STREET LOADED STUFF DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THAT.

SO THERE WILL BE SOMEBODY BACK FENCE AT THE END OF THE ALLEY.

IS THAT RIGHT? I BELIEVE MOST OF THAT IS ACTUALLY BORDERED BY A DRAINAGE AREA.

THIS IS THAT DRAINAGE AREA BETWEEN, UH, RIGHT, RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S, UH, THAT'LL BE OPEN TO, I SEE.

SO WITH THE ALLEY, IF, UM, THERE'S NOT A LOGICAL INTUIT, WE'D LOOK FOR A BARRICADE, UNLESS THERE WAS AN

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WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SOMEONE DOESN'T DRIVE DOWN THE ALLEY INTO SOMEONE'S HOUSE.

YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO, TO END IN MORE THAN, AND THAT'S ENDING, RIGHT? WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST CONTINUE THE ALLEYS TO THE NEXT STREET AND THEN NOT ADD ALLEYS IN, IN THE REST OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, WE'RE WE'RE PLANNING TO DO THIS ENTIRE NEXT PHASE AS A FRONT-LOADED TRADITIONAL GARAGE PRODUCT.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

I MEAN, I GET WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT REALLY HOLDS UP LOGICALLY WHEN YOU ALREADY HAVE ALLI LOADED PRODUCTS, I'M NOT SUGGESTING YOU WOULD NEED TO DO IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PROPERTY, IF YOU JUST WANT TO DROP ALLIE LOADED PRODUCT, BUT JUST STOPPING AN ALLEY SORT OF, BECAUSE YOU CAN, WELL, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE OTHER THAN I WANT TO BUILD FRONT-LOAD AND STUFF IN THE ENTIRETY OF THE REST OF THE PROPERTY, AS OPPOSED TO LOGICALLY SAYING LET'S CURVE THESE AROUND AND HAVE THEM RUN TO THE OTHER STREET, DO SOME ALLEY LOADED PRODUCT FOR AN EXTRA FIVE OR SIX UNITS, AND THEN DO YOUR FRONT LOADED STUFF EVERYWHERE ELSE.

THERE'S ONLY WHAT TWO ALLEYWAYS THAT YOU NEED TO CONTINUE.

YES, SIR.

IN BOTH WOULD BE CROSSING THAT DRAINAGE.

UH, SO IT'D BE A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE TO, TO BOTH CROSS THE DRAINAGE AND WE WOULD HAVE TO CROSS THE DRAINAGE AND THEN RESTART THE ELE LOADED PRODUCT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DRAINAGE.

SO THE ONLY, THE ONLY AREA WHERE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ACTUALLY APPLIES AS THE, WHERE WE WENT FROM THREE INCHES TO ONE UNIT RIGHT THERE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER.

THE REST OF THAT IS ACTUALLY OPEN SPACE DRAINAGE AREA, WHERE THERE'S A BIG DRAINAGE THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO.

I NEED TO, MAYBE I SHOULD ASK STAFF TO PULL UP THE OLD PUD, BUT SURELY THE ALLEYS CROSSED ACROSS ORIGINALLY IN THE PREVIOUS POD THAT WAS APPROVED.

IF YOU SCROLL THROUGH, WE HAVE THE EXHIBIT B, IT HAS A BUNCH OF COLORS ON IT.

IT'S GOING TO BE AFTER ALL THE TREES.

YEP.

THERE IT WENT, GO BACK.

THERE YOU GO.

WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT? IT LOOKS LIKE THEY, THEY SPANNED THE DRAINAGE, UH, ORIGINALLY.

SO WHAT CHANGED, UH, WHEN WE SHIFTED THE LOGICAL BREAK TO WHERE TO END THOSE ALLEYS WAS IN, IN, ALONG THAT DRAINAGE IT, UH, IF WE'RE TRYING TO TRANSITION FROM ALLEY LOADED TO FRONT-LOADED THE LOGICAL THING TO DO WAS TO PUT IT ALONG THAT DRAINAGE, SIR.

I THINK THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THAT IS WHERE YOU SEE THOSE THREE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT-HAND CORNER.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE REASON WE'RE WE'RE DOING THIS PROJECT IS BECAUSE IT WAS, UH, NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE AS, AS STRUCTURED.

SO TELL ME ABOUT, TELL ME ABOUT, SO YOU GUYS ARE HAVING TROUBLE SELLING OUT OF THE LOTS THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW.

UH, THAT IS ANOTHER COMPANY.

OH, WE'RE ACTUALLY BUYING THE PROPERTY RE ENTITLING IT, AND THEN WE'RE PLANNING TO BUILD A HIGHER END.

HAVE YOU BUILT ANYTHING LIKE WHAT IS IN PHASE ONE ANYWHERE ELSE? THESE ALLEY LOADED PRODUCTS WITH A DETACHED GARAGE IS THAT SOMETIMES OUR 80 USE, ET CETERA? NO, SIR.

OUR COMPANY IS NOT, WE WERE ACTUALLY BUILDING AND VALLEY VISTA STATES IMMEDIATELY ACROSS RONALD REAGAN.

UM, OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I THINK I SORT OF JUMPED THE GUN ON THE DISCUSSION.

SO I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I KNOW YOU WERE UP FIRST ANYWAY.

THEN I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

SO YOU'VE, YOU'VE SPECIFICALLY IN, I GUESS YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE WRITING A NEW HOA DOCUMENT OR IS THIS GOING TO BE PART OF THE EXISTING HOA? UH, THE PLAN IS FOR IT TO BE PART OF THE EXISTING HOA AND CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION, YOU ARE PLANNING TO WHAT GO BACK TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THESE HOUSES AND GET APPROVAL TO CHANGE THE BYLAWS.

AS YOU'RE SHOWING US HERE, IT'S A, STILL A DECLARANT CONTROL ALSO.

THAT'S INTERESTING.

SO, OKAY.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IN THAT POD IS THAT A BUNCH OF THESE PEOPLE IN PHASE ONE HAVE DETACHED GARAGES ON THE BACK OF IT.

AND YOU HAD THE OPTION OF BUILDING A, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE A MOTHER-IN-LAW APARTMENT OR SOMETHING ABOVE IT.

I'M NOT SURE THAT ANYBODY DID IT UPFRONT.

IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO DO RIGHT UP FRONT, BUT IT WAS WRITTEN INTO THE, UH, HOA DOCUMENTS.

IT WAS REQUIRED THAT PEOPLE BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

AFTER THE FACT, THEY HAVE EXPLICITLY RED LINE TO THIS YEAR, WHICH I WOULD ARGUE IS PRETTY BONKERS GIVEN THAT THEY, UH, WOULD BE EFFECTIVELY TAKING AWAY THE ABILITY OF THESE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE PROPERTY NOW TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE ALLOWED TO DO UPFRONT, PURELY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO ASK ANYONE IN THERE TO CHANGE THE HOA BYLAWS.

SINCE IT'S STILL DECKLER CONTROLLED.

I, I, UH, I COULD BE MISTAKEN.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS ZONING CASE DOES NOT APPLY AT ALL TO PHASE ONE.

AND YET IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING THE SAME HOA ACROSS BOTH OF THEM, THE BYLAWS APPLY ACROSS THE BOARD, THE BYLAWS OF THE HOA AND THE ZONING ARE, ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND YET YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE HOA DOCUMENTS THAT WILL RETROACTIVELY A PLACE TO FLY A SALON.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING REGARDING WHAT PEOPLE IN PHASE ONE CAN DO.

WE ARE ACTUALLY ONLY GOING TO BECOME THE DECK LAURENT FOR PHASE TWO.

AND WE ALL, THE ONLY THING WE'RE HAVING TO DO IS WOULD YOU TAKE IT OUT AS THE BIG QUESTION? WHY DOES IT, WHY DOES IT NEED TO COME OUT? I W IT'S ONLY FOR PHASE TWO,

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TOTALLY TRUE.

EXCEPT THAT THE PREVIOUS PUB, THE ONE THAT YOU'RE AIMING TO AMEND HAD SOME RULES ON WHAT WENT INTO THE HOA DOCUMENTS.

THAT WAS THE CASE WHEN WE SET UP THE ZONING ORIGINALLY.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING AND TRYING TO CHANGE THAT, I MEAN, THAT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD THINK MRS. GRIFFIN WOULD BE A PART OF THIS PUD, NOT TO MENTION YOU'VE EXPLICITLY, EXPLICITLY CHANGED IT IN THIS ADAPTIVE PUTT.

SO YOU CLEARLY THOUGHT IT THROUGH, AT SOME POINT I, THAT WAS, I COULD BE MISTAKEN ON THIS AND MAYBE BECKY CAN HELP ME WITH THIS ONE.

WELL, I I'M ON AN HOA BOARD AND I KNOW THAT, UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL HOS IN THE CITY WHERE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT RULES FOR THE DIFFERENT PHASES.

WELL, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN IT IS DECKLER AND CONTROLLED, THE BECKMAN GETS THE SWIPE OF THE PEN TO MAKE ANY CHANGES HE WANTS TO.

THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES DOWN TO THE, UH, SOUTH SAN GABRIEL RIVER.

SO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE, WOULD YOU BE AMICABLE TO KEEPING IT AS IS FOR PHASE ONE? OH, ABSOLUTELY.

WE WOULD HAVE CHANGED THE LANGUAGE IN THE PUB.

IF, IF, IF WE WERE UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WOULD, UH, GIVE THE IMPRESSION WE WERE TRYING TO DO ANYTHING IN PHASE ONE.

AND IF I'M ROBIN CORRECT ME, IF I'M WRONG, THE PHASE ONE PUD IS STILL IN FORCE.

SO THE HOA IS STILL BOUND BY THOSE PROVISIONS IN PHASE ONE.

SO WE'RE ONLY CHANGING THE PROVISIONS AS THEY RELATE TO PHASE TWO.

SO THE HOA HAS NOT ROUGH.

SO THE WAY THE HOA, THE PUD REQUIREMENTS WORKED AS THEY RELATE TO THE HOA AS THE HOA IS NOT ALLOWED TO PROHIBIT 80 USE IN PHASE ONE.

AND SO THAT WOULD THAT POD, THAT ZONING IS STILL GOING TO BE ENFORCED.

CORRECT.

SO THERE IS STILL ZONING.

THERE'S STILL ZONING ON THE BOOKS ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS THAT SAYS WE CAN'T DO THAT IN PHASE ONE.

WE'RE JUST SAYING, AS IT RELATES TO PHASE TWO, WE, WE, WHAT ON EARTH WOULD BE THE REASON, EVEN IN PHASE TWO, AS SIMPLY DISALLOWING PEOPLE FROM DOING THAT UPFRONT, LIKE LATER ON, WHAT'S THE REASONING BEHIND THAT, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO.

THERE'S JUST SIMPLY NOT THE ROOM FOR IT.

SO WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE, CREATE CONFUSION FOR OUR HOMEOWNERS DOWN THE ROAD.

THERE'S, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VERY CONSTRAINED SITE IN TERMS OF THE DRAINAGE WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE FLOOD PLAIN, BUT I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE THINKING OF, I'M NOT SURE MRS. GRIFFIN, DOES IT SAY IT WILL DIS THE PIDE LANGUAGE FROM THE FIRST ONE? AND OF COURSE, WHAT HAS BEEN RED LINE FROM THIS ONE SAYS THAT THEY CAN'T BE DISALLOWED FROM CREATING DETACHED AID USE BECAUSE AN ADU CAN BE A JUNIOR ADU THAT'S INSIDE THE PROPERTY THAT YOU SUBDIVIDE OFF PART OF THE HOUSE AND SET UP FOR YOUR MOTHER-IN-LAW.

IT SAYS HOA DOCUMENTS SHALL NOT PROHIBIT THE CONSTRUCTION OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SEPARATE FROM THE HOUSE MAN.

SO LIKE MY, MY BASIC TAKE ON IT IS IT SEEMS A SILLY THING TO STOP A HOMEOWNER FROM DOING WHAT THEIR HOUSE, IF THEY WANT TO DO IT, IF THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS AND THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING OUT BACK, AND THERE'S NO SPACE FOR IT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, ET CETERA, WE HAVE A MECHANISM IN PLACE FOR STOPPING THAT.

I DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT OF STOPPING A HOMEOWNER FROM BEING ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH THEIR PROPERTY, IF THEY WANT TO.

UH, SO WE COULD TAKE IT OUT.

YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

NO, SIR.

NOT AT ALL.

THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I WAS INTERESTED IN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. STYLES.

MA'AM HAVE YOU HAD ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED SO FAR BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU TO HAVE ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED BEFORE WE GO FROM THIS HEARING.

SO IF YOU HAVE NOT, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO COME BACK TO HER AND ASK THAT CHAIRMAN? OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE Y'ALL LEAVE, YOU HAVE ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

I'M NOT SURE WHY IN THE WORLD, WE COULDN'T PUT SOMETHING IN THERE TO WHERE, WHAT APPLIES IS THAT THE PHASE TWO CAN NOT BE APPLIED TO PHASE ONE.

UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'VE BEEN VERY SPECIFIC THAT WHAT'S WORKING OVER IN PHASE.

ONE IS NOT GONNA WORK FOR PHASE TWO.

WE SEEM TO BE ARGUING OVER HOA IS WHEN WE'RE HERE FOR ZONING.

AND ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND MARSHALL THAT YOU, YOU DO GET INTO THE MINUTIA OF THIS STUFF, AND SOMETIMES YOU ACTUALLY HIT A HOME RUN ON THIS.

I'M, UH, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO WHY WE SHOULD WORRY ABOUT PHASE TWO, DOING THE SAME THING AS FIGHT PHASE ONE.

AND YOU'LL HAVE TIME TO RESPOND TO ME WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE GETS TO GO THROUGH THIS TOO.

AND I'M SURE YOU WILL, BUT I, MY, MY POINT IS PHASE ONE SHOULD NOT BE IMPINGED UPON.

I'M NOT SURE THAT WE NEED TO BLEED THE RULES FOR PHASE ONE OVER TO PHASE TWO, BUT IF I'M MISSING SOMETHING, I WOULD HOPE THAT Y'ALL WOULD BRING THAT OUT FOR US SO THAT WE COULD BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT.

MY QUESTION IS, UH, THE SOUTHERN PART OF

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DOES IT NOT? WHAT IS THE, WHAT ARE THE SETBACKS AWAY FROM THE RIVER ON THAT? HOW FAR UP DOES THE FLOOD PLAIN GO? AND HOW FAR BACK ARE WE SITTING BACK? THERE'S THAT BUFFER THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET AND IT'S A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE CENTER OF THE, OF THE RIVER.

SO THEY'LL LEAVE.

IT'S THE SO THEY CAN BUILD UP TO, OKAY.

I THINK THEY HAD PARKLAND ALONG THE RIVER, SO IT WOULDN'T BE A RISK OF HAVING HOMES TOO CLOSE.

THEY DON'T HAVE, YEAH.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY HOMES ADJACENT TO THAT.

DO THEY HAVE ANY OF THE, HOW CLOSE TO THE HOMES COME TO THE FLOOD PLAIN? UM, I BELIEVE THE NEAREST ONE IS THIS SECTION RIGHT HERE.

AND HOW MANY FEET IS THAT? IT'S THE ONE ON THE, ON THE EAST SIDE.

THIS IS WHEN RIVER RIGHT HERE.

SO IT GOES OUTWARDS.

IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING.

SOUTH OF WIND RIVER TRAIL IS HOA WATER, QUALITY POND OR PARKLAND.

RIGHT? SO THERE'S A PRETTY DEEP WAS LIKE 454 FEET FROM THE STREET.

LIKE THAT WHOLE AREA IS PARKLAND.

WELL, MY QUESTION STILL IS, UH, HOW FAR BACK ARE WE FROM THE FLOOD PLAIN OR DOES ANY OF THIS BUILDING GO INTO THE FLOOD? PLAIN? HOW FAR, HOW FAR AWAY ARE WE FROM THE FLOOD PLAIN ON THE NEAREST PLACE? THIS LINE RIGHT HERE IS THE FLOOD PLAIN.

SO IT GOES, IT KEEPS GOING JUST THE HATCH.

IT GOES ALONG THE HATCHLING.

DO WE KNOW, MAYBE, DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF NUMBERS AS TO HOW CLOSE WE'RE COMING TO THE FLOODPLAIN WITH THIS STUFF? THE FLOODPLAIN IS CONCENTRATED IN THAT PARKLAND LOT.

THERE AREN'T ANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE IN THE FLOOD PLAIN AREA.

WHAT IS THE CLOSEST, UH, HOME BEING BUILT TO THE FLOOD? PLAIN IS MY QUESTION.

HOW CLOSE ARE WE COMING TO IT? SO WE DON'T HAVE EXACTLY THE LOCATION OF THE HOMES.

WE JUST HAVE THE LOTS WHERE THEY CAN BE PLACED.

WE DON'T HAVE ACTUAL ENVELOPES.

IF YOU SEE, CAN YOU POINT TO LOT SIX IT'S ON THE RIGHT, THIS ONE RIGHT THERE.

THAT THAT AREA COULD HAVE HOMES.

SO IF YOU GO TO THE VERY BOTTOM, THAT WOULD BE THE CLOSEST, BUT THAT LOT ISN'T ENCUMBERED BY THE FLOOD PLAIN.

SO IT STILL BE OUT OF THE FLOOD PLAIN, BUT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SETBACKS FROM THE LOT LINE.

WELL, THE QUESTION STILL STANDS.

HOW CLOSE ARE WE BUILDING TO THE FLOOD PLAIN AND EXCUSE ME, BUT YOU NEED TO COME TO THE NIGHT.

THEY CAN COME UP TO THE NIGHT AT THE VERY END OF WIND RIVER TRAIL.

IF I'M, IF I'M INCORRECT, PLEASE STAND ME CORRECTED.

BUT THAT'S ALREADY IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.

IF I UNDERSTAND THAT, IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THERE'S A LINE THAT RUNS RIGHT HERE.

AND THAT'S THE FLOOD PLAIN AT THE END OF RIVER WIND RIVER TRAIL, CORRECT.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE END OF WIND RIVER TRAIL.

FACE WHEN RIVER TRAIL, OUR BACK ALLEY IS SENECA PAK, ALLEY, OR SENECA ALLEY.

AND IS THERE GOING TO BE EXISTING WIND RIVER RIGHT HERE OR LIKE THE PROPOSED ON NO.

AT THE VERY END OF THE ALREADY WOOD RIVER TRAIL, THAT'S ALREADY FLOOD PLAIN THERE.

IF YOU WALKED AWAY, YOU'RE SINKING.

GOOD.

THE APPLICANT POSSIBLY ANSWERED THIS QUESTION FOR US.

I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE THIS DIFFICULT.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO THE FLOOD PLAIN.

THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW.

NO PROBLEM DOCTOR SOLVES IT.

SO THERE IS ONE HOME IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER THAT, UH, IT WILL BE BASED ON THE SETBACKS OFF THAT LOT.

I THINK WE'LL BE 20 TO 25 FEET OFF THE FLOODPLAIN IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.

SO IF YOU'LL SEE THAT, IF YOU SEE THE FLOODPLAIN LINE IS KIND OF RUNNING NORTH, SOUTH RIGHT THERE AT THE BACK OF THAT LOT.

SO THAT, THAT IS THE ONLY HOME WE HAVE.

THAT'LL BE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE FLOODPLAIN BECAUSE THE REMAINDER OF THE FLOOD PLAIN IS SOUTH OF WIND RIVER TRAIL.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE HOMES THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE A SCALE UP THERE.

SO I'M NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO IT.

I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO SAY THAT.

UM, YES, MA'AM THAT, THAT FLOOD PLAIN HAS BEEN EXTENSIVELY STUDIED AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DRAINAGE IS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT FURTHER AWAY FROM THAT.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK, YOU HAVE TO COME UP TO THE MIC AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADD TO US, I'M SORRY, JEREMY 2,800 SENECA PATH, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WHEN RIVER TRAIL.

IT IS NOT SENECA PATH.

WE LIVE ON WIND RIVER TRAIL AND OUR ALLEY IS SENECA PATH.

SO WE'VE BEEN CONFUSED ABOUT THIS ALL ALONG OUR HOUSES

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IT'S NOT EVEN PATH.

SO WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GOT ALL THIS, BUT WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE EDUCATED ON WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SINCE WE JUST BOUGHT THESE HOMES, I BOUGHT MINE IN, UH, JULY.

UM, NO, ONE'S COME TO OUR HOME.

NO, ONE'S TALKED TO US ABOUT ANY OF THIS.

SO WE'RE ALL VERY CONFUSED AS TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING OR WHAT THIS COMPANY IS DOING.

ONE, ONE THING I WOULD SUGGEST IS HAVING A MEETING BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE HOA AND POSSIBLY HAMMER OUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

UM, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO ANSWER THEM ALL IN THIS MEETING, UH, IF, IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD MEET WITH HIM AFTER THE MEETING OR WHEN YOU'RE DONE HERE, THEN WE, WE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ARE HERE.

WHAT WE JUST ALWAYS SUDDEN HIT WITH THIS LETTER FROM YOU GUYS, AND WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO BE INFORMED.

I APOLOGIZE.

YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM US AS WELL.

YEAH, WE NEED TO MOVE ON AND WE'LL, IF YOU CAN JUST CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION OUTSIDE.

WERE YOU, ARE YOU DONE OKAY, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? YES.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

UM, THERE MIGHT JUST, JUST REAL QUICK, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME FOLKS ON THE CALL.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CLOSE TO THIS AND COMMENTS YET, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

UM, BUT I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS.

SO GOING BACK TO SIDEWALKS, ONLY BEING INSTALLED ON ONE SIDE THAT'S PRIVATE STREET.

CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME SOME, CAN YOU PUT SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET OR IS IT SO THEY ARE DOING BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET WHEN IT'S A PUBLIC STREET AND THEN ON PRIVATE STREETS, THEY OPTED TO DO JUST ONE SIDEWALK.

IS IT USUALLY LIKE THAT OR IS IT USUALLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY REQUIREMENTS FOR PRIVATE STREETS OR YOU USUALLY JUST GO BY WHATEVER THE PUBLIC STREET IS SINCE IT'S A PAD THEY'RE ALLOWED TO ASK FOR THAT.

SO IT WOULD BE UP TO YOU TO PREVENT.

THANK YOU, MR. ROSS.

NO, MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED THE PRIOR DISCUSSION.

MR. COSGROVE STEEL, CAN YOU HIGHLIGHT FOR ME WHERE THE PRIVATE STREETS ARE IN PAGE TWO? SO I CAN HIGHLIGHT THE PUBLIC ONES.

THAT'S EASIER.

SO IT'S THIS ONE THAT GOES NORTH AND SOUTH.

THIS ONE ON THE SOUTH THAT GOES EAST WEST, AND THEN THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE.

THIS ONE'S A PUBLIC.

OH, I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE TOO SMALL.

I CAN'T SEE THEM HERE.

SO WIND RIVER TRAIL, WHICH IS THE ONE ON THE BOTTOM.

AND THEN THERE'S, UM, PUEBLO PASS AND THEN GOD, YOU SAW TERRORIST IS THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE MA'AM WELL, WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAIN.

THANK YOU, MR. COSMOS.

NO, I'M GOOD.

THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION, MR. MAN, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT.

I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY APPARENT THAT BETWEEN THE TWO, THIS FELONY CASE AND THE PREVIOUS, THE ONLY CASE THAT THERE'S STILL, UM, SOME, SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY THAT, THAT WE NEED TO WORK OUT, UH, WHEN WE HAVE, UM, CASES LIKE THIS.

AND SO THIS IS MORE OF AN ADDRESS THAT YOU GUYS TO CITIZEN'S COMMENTS OR TO TALK ABOUT FOR, OR AGAINST IT, NOT A BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION.

WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

UM, BUT THE COMMISSIONER, UH, THE CHAIRMAN'S BEEN PRETTY GRACIOUS TONIGHT WITH THIS.

UM, BUT IT ALSO HIGHLIGHTS THE NEED.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE PREVIOUS ZONING CASE WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, SOMEONE SAID, HEY, HE CAME TO MY BACK PORCH AND HE TALKED TO US, YOU KNOW, WHEN APPLICANTS DO THAT, IT CARRIES A LOT OF WEIGHT.

IT LETS US KNOW THAT THEY'RE DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AS WELL.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS APPLICANT HASN'T, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THERE IS A STARK DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO, BECAUSE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY QUESTIONS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ANSWERED THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO ANSWER.

SO, SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, CITY BUSINESS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND SOME RULES OF PROCEDURE AND WHATNOT THAT ARE, THAT ARE STILL A BIT FOREIGN TO OUR CITIZENS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF UPFRONT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE, UM, KIND OF A MORE OUT OF CONTROL MEETING.

AND WE HAVE TO SOUND RUDE, WHICH WE'RE NOT, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, UH, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE BUSINESS.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

UM, FIRST OFF I WANTED TO APPLAUD ON THE, UH, LEFT YOUR TREES BEING REMOVED.

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NICE, NICE THING.

UH, AND THESE ARE TWO CAR GARAGES WITH A TWO CAR DRIVEWAYS, CORRECT? OKAY.

THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAD.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE, UH, ONE IN MIDLAND BEING THAT THE PHASE ONE HOA GOVERNING DOCUMENTS REMAIN AS IS, AND PHASE TWO COULD CHANGE.

SO JUST REMOVING THE STRIKEOUT FOR THAT FOR PHASE ONE STAYS AS IS NOT AFFECTING PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, ALL YOUR ONLY PHASE TWO HOA DOCUMENTS WOULD BE CHANGED.

HMM.

YEAH, WE KNOW, BUT WE NEED TO TEND TO SAY THAT IT FAILS FOR A SECOND.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK IF YOU DECLARE THAT THIS HAS FAILED, WE'RE SAVING A SECOND.

WE CAN MAKE A SECOND MOTION TO SEE WHERE WE GO NEXT.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

THAT MEANS I'D MAKE A MOTION.

WE POSTPONE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT THE APPLICANT HAS A CHANCE TO TALK WITH THE RESIDENTS AND GET THIS THING LINED OUT.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE CHAIRMAN'S MOTION REPEATED FIRST.

MY MOTION WAS TO APPROVE WITH THE AMENDMENT, THAT PHASE ONE'S HR DOCUMENTS WOULD NOT CHANGE.

AND THIS WOULD ONLY AFFECT PHASE TWO.

I'LL SECOND.

THE MOTION WAS STILL ON THE FLOOR.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO IS THE, IS, IS, UH, COMMISSIONER CAUSE GROVE'S MOTION ALSO ON THE TABLE.

WELL, WE CAN ACT ON COMMISSIONER CAUSE GIRLS SECOND, THAT ONE THAT WILL BE POSTPONED.

SO IT'S THE NEXT PART OF COMMISSIONER? CROSS GROWTH.

MAKE MOTION DEPENDS.

COME TO THE NEXT.

AND COMMISSIONER HANDS SAYS SECOND.

THAT MOTION.

YES, PLEASE.

AND I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT TO EVERYONE THAT THIS DOESN'T HOLD UP THE TIMELINE BECAUSE DUE TO OUR PROCEDURES, IT WAS GONNA, IT IT'S GONNA SKIP ANOTHER.

I WAS GOING TO SKIP THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ANYWAY, SO IT DOESN'T HOLD UP THE APPLICANT, IT DOESN'T HOLD UP ANYTHING.

IT JUST HAS THEM COME BACK TO US.

AND IT GIVES YOU A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE RESIDENTS AND GET THE, GET THE RESIDENTS QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS AND MAY ALL, UH, DISCUSS WHAT ELSE THAT WE DO WANT TO SETTLE BY THIS, BY PUTTING IT OFF.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW SOME STRUCTURE IS STILL A WALK ELSEWHERE LOOKING AT CAN, CAN YOU ALL AT LEAST PUT THAT OUT THERE? SO GIVING GUIDANCE, GUIDANCE TO THE APPLICANT, TO WHEN THEY BRING IT BACK.

AND, UH, FOR THE MEMBERS UP HERE THAT HAD BEEN VOTED, VOTED AGAINST THE FIRST MOTION COULD, Y'ALL GIVE THE STAFF SOME DIRECTION AS TO WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.

DON.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SIDEWALKS ON THE PRIVATE STREETS WORKED OUT.

I DON'T THINK SIDEWALKS ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET IS THANK YOU.

I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER COSGROVE AND I STAND BY MY SUPPOSITION THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE DICTATING WHAT PEOPLE DO WITH THEIR OWN HOMES AFTER THEY OWN IT.

SO YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE THE ADS WRITTEN OUT OF THE NEW, UM, UM, THE NEW, I GUESS, SECONDARY HOA DOCUMENTS.

I DON'T FOLLOW, BUT I MEAN, I THINK IT SHOULD BE WRITTEN.

IT SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THAT POD, THAT RED LINE ART TO SEE THE APPLICANTS TALK MORE WITH THE COMMUNITY SO I CAN GET A NICE, WARM AND FUZZY ABOUT THIS SITUATION.

DITTO.

UP WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM.

SO WE HAVE A FIRST IN THE SECOND TWO POSTPONED AT THE FOLLOWING PLANNING, ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS, ALL IN FAVOR, WHICH WILL BE MAY 27TH, ALL IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[12. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-002 to amend the current zoning of SFU-2-B (Single-Family Urban), LC-2-B (Local Commercial), and GC-3-C (General Commercial) to create the Leander Collective Planned Unit Development (PUD) with base zoning of SFT-2-A (Single-Family Townhouse); and Subdivision Case 21-CP-002 to adopt the Leander Collective Concept Plan on four parcels of land approximately 13.5 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R036237, R036221, R036220, and R036219; and generally located west of US 183 and north of Sonny Dr., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-002 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

NUMBER 12, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 Z ZERO ZERO TWO.

TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF S F U TO DASH D SINGLE FAMILY, URBAN LLC, TO BE LOCAL COMMERCIAL AND GC THREE C GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO CREATE THE LENDER COLLECTIVE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH A BASE OWNING OF SF TO A SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOME AND SUBDIVISION CASE 21 TO ADOPT A LANDER COLLECTIVE CONCEPT PLAN ON FOUR PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 13.5 ACRES IN SIZE, AND GENERALLY LOCATED THE WEST

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OF US ONE 83 NORTH AND SUNNY, DR.

WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONER MICHAEL JANESKY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

SO THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.

AND THE FIRST STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THIS ZONING CHANGE IN ORDER TO, UH, PROVIDE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE LARGER LOT RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL, UH, ALONG US ONE 83.

SO THE SURROUNDING AREA, UH, IT'S LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF LEANDER MIDDLE SCHOOL.

UM, A PORTION, THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, WHICH IS ALSO A DRAINAGE CHANNEL RIGHT NOW.

UM, THIS PROPERTY HAS DIRECT ACCESS ON THE SOUTHWEST DRIVE AND WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN, THEY'RE PROPOSING A PUBLIC STREET CONNECTOR TO US, ONE 83 UP HERE, AND THE PROJECT WILL ALSO INCLUDE A 10 FOOT HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL.

UH, THIS PROPERTY DOES HAVE ACCESS TO WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITIES.

UH, WE HAD THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH STAFF IN OCTOBER OF 2020.

AND AT THE, UH, SINCE THAT MEETING, UM, THE PROPOSAL HAS, UH, LEFT THE COMMERCIAL LOTS ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF US ONE 83 AND REDUCED THE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOMES FROM 17.6 ACRES TO 13.5 ACRES.

UM, THE PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE LEANDER HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS ALSO LOCATED IN THE URBAN MIXED USE CATEGORY AS IDENTIFIED IN THE 2020 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UH, THIS URBAN MIXED USE CATEGORY ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND ADDITIONALLY, THE PREVIOUS FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UM, WHICH WAS IN PLACE DURING THE FIRST, UH, DEVELOPMENT MEETING, UH, WAS NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AND ALSO ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THIS, UH, PUD ASKS FOR THE FOLLOWING HIGHER STANDARDS TO 90% MASONRY TYPE, A ARCHITECTURE, UM, STREET TREES SPACED ONE TREE, EVERY 30 FEET ALONG SOUTHWEST DRIVE A MASONRY WALL, UH, BLOCK, UH, SOUTHWEST DRIVE, UH, FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND A SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL TO BLOCK THE COMMERCIAL, UH, FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

NOW THERE IS A TYPO IN ONE OF THE WAIVERS, UM, BECAUSE OF THE PUD ALLOWS 10 FOOT OR I'M SORRY, 10 UNITS PER ACRE.

UM, SO THAT 90 MINUTES BREAKERS NO LONGER A WAIVER I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AT THIS POINT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OR DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE A PRESENTATION? I'M SORRY.

SO AT THIS POINT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

IS ANYBODY ON THE PHONE, THE WISHES TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM, NUMBER 12.

AT THIS POINT WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER, MAN.

SO MY CONCERN, UM, HAVING A CHILD IN LMS IS THE TRAFFIC ON SOUTHWEST STREET.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, UM, THERE'S POSE, UH, ROADWAY PROPOSED COMMERCE STREET GOING FROM SOUTHWEST TO ONE 83.

BUT MY QUESTION IS WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST BECAUSE UNTIL THAT'S COMPLETELY BUILT, IT'S NOT GONNA MATTER IF WE JUST DO A PART OF A ROAD, IT'S STILL NOT GOING TO ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC.

THE DEVELOPER OWNS THAT PROPERTY AND WE HAVE ACTIVE PLANS IN PLACE.

THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION COMMISSIONER COSGRAVE OTHER THAN TRAFFIC, I THINK IT'S FINE, MR. ROSS.

YEAH, NO, I THINK IT'S A GOOD TRANSITION PROJECT IN THAT AREA.

SO, BUT TRAFFIC IS AN ISSUE, BUT IF THAT'S BEING ADDRESSED, THEN I'M GOOD.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.

YOU MENTIONED THAT THE WAIVER FOR NINE UNITS PER ACRE IS ACTUALLY 10, SO WE DON'T NEED THAT.

CORRECT.

SO WE HAD AN UPDATE TO THE PUD ORDINANCE ORDINANCE.

UM, SO WHEN THEY REQUEST TOWN OR DEVELOPMENT, THEN THEY HAVE 10 UNITS BY, RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND SAM, WHEN WAS THAT? THEY MADE, DO YOU REMEMBER WHETHER IT WAS ONE OF MANY THIS YEAR? SO IT'S PRETTY RECENT.

SORRY.

UH, THANK YOU.

UM, WHAT OTHER QUESTION WAS, OH, FOR THE STREET.

SO FOR THE DEVELOPER, YOU GUYS FEEL COMFORTABLE, THAT STREET WILL CAUSE I SEE ON HERE, YOU GUYS SAY SUBJECT TO CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS, BUT FEEL COMFORTABLE.

THAT STREET WILL BE OKAY.

ON YOUR APPLICANT SUMMARY OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNICATIONS, IT IS LISTED HERE THAT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS WERE NOTIFIED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MOBILE HOME PARK WHICH WAS LISTED AS ONE OWNER, HENRY KNOWLES AND PATRICIA F NOS.

MR. STYLES

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UH, I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHY THEY WERE NOT NOTIFIED NOW, UM, FOR ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION FOR Y'ALL MS. KNOWLES IS DELIGHTED THAT NOLS ELEMENTARY IS NAMED AFTER SHE HAS PASSED AWAY, BUT HER SON IS IN CHARGE OF ALL THIS, AND HE OWNS QUITE A BIT OF PROPERTY IN THIS AREA.

SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED, UH, NOT SO MUCH WITH ANYTHING OTHER THAN SOMEBODY THAT OWNS THAT MUCH PROPERTY AND IS THAT CLOSE WAS NOT NOTIFIED.

AND I GUESS I'M GOING TO BRING THIS UP AND BRING IT UP AND BRING IT UP UNTIL MAYBE WE START ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE.

THAT NOTIFICATIONS ARE IMPORTANT.

OBVIOUSLY WE JUST WENT THROUGH ONE WITH THESE PEOPLE THAT NEEDED SOMETHING MORE.

THE FACT THAT THE KNOWLES FAMILY HAS NOT BEEN NOTIFIED.

IT TROUBLES ME A LITTLE BIT.

I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS GOING TO BE THAT BIG OF A DEAL, BUT IN THE FUTURE, I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE THESE NOTIFICATIONS, BE PEOPLE PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTENTION TO, AND AS I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF, THERE IS NO PENALTY FOR NOT DOING THIS STUFF.

I THINK WE OUGHT TO, AS A BOARD START DISCUSSING SOME OF THE PENALTIES FOR NOT COMPLYING WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THIS WAS A GOOD ONE.

I THINK IT SHOULDN'T BE ENFORCED IN THE FACT THAT I SUBSTANTIAL HOMEOWNER AND PROPERTY OWNER IN THAT AREA WAS NOT NOTIFIED IS TROUBLESOME TO ME.

IT MAY BE A LITTLE THING, BUT IN THE FUTURE, IT MAY BE MORE A IF YOU'VE GOT AN EXPLANATION FOR IT, I'D CERTAINLY LIKED TO HEAR IT.

WE DID HAND DELIVER THE LETTERS AND WE DID DELIVER A LETTER TO THE NOLS.

AND SO I BELIEVE THEY, THEY WERE NOTIFIED, WELL, THE LETTER I'VE GOT HERE SAYS THEY WEREN'T.

SO THAT WAS MY CONCERN.

IF THEY, IF YOU, IF I'M SORRY, IF YOU READ A LITTLE FURTHER UP, IT SAYS THAT HENRY AND PATRICIA KNOLLS AT 300 TO THREE OH 600, THREE WEST STREET WERE HAND DELIVERED A LETTER.

THE WAY I READ THIS, WAS IT THE INDIVIDUAL MOBILE HOME, THE TENANTS WEREN'T NOTIFIED, BUT THE OVERALL GROUP WAS NOTIFIED.

WELL, THEN I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS AT ALL.

THE WAY I READ IT WAS THAT THEY WERE NOTIFIED AT ALL.

AND I READ BOTH OF THOSE THINGS, BUT I HAD SOME CONCERNS THAT SOMEBODY SUCH AS THIS CERTAINLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED.

AND I KNOW THE KNOWLES FAMILY VERY, VERY WELL.

AND IF THEY WOULD HAVE HAD A CONCERN, I WOULD HAVE FELT THEY WERE BEING HERE.

I WAS CONCERNED.

THEY WEREN'T NOTIFIED.

AND I HAVE NOTHING MORE THAN THAT OTHER THAN I THINK WE OUGHT TO TAKE THESE NOTIFICATIONS VERY SERIOUSLY.

AND I THINK AS A BOARD, WE OUGHT TO PUT SOME KIND OF PENALTY IF THEY'RE NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S A VERY NICE SUGGESTION.

IT SHOULD BE A REQUIREMENT.

THANKS MR. THOMAS.

UM, SO I, SOMEBODY MENTIONED EARLIER ASKED ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE EAST.

I THINK COMMISSIONER MAY HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP ORIGINALLY.

AND MRS. GRIFFIN SAID THAT LIKE I HAVE SITE CONSTRUCTION PLANS ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED.

I SUBMITTED PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT PLANS FOR THAT ROAD.

AND THEY ALSO STARTED THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

THAT'S ADJACENT.

WELL, I REALLY AGREE WITH EVERYBODY ON THIS SITUATION.

I MEAN, ALTER THE ALTERNATIVE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IF YOU PUT IN ALL OF THESE UNITS IS FOR, IF PEOPLE WANT TO GO NORTH, THEY'RE GOING TO GO UP WEST, HAVE TO GO OUT THEIR OLD TOWN, GET ON 22, 43 OR THEY'RE, OR THEY'RE GOING TO, OR SOUTH STREET RATHER, OR THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO ABROAD.

AND IF YOU'RE GOING SOUTH, THEY'LL GO DOWN TO A VERY UNIMPROVED SUNNY DRIVE.

SO, UM, IF, IF THEY REALLY ALREADY ARE MOVING FORWARD, THIS IS A PUD.

I MEAN, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO PUT IN THERE THAT THE, UM, THE, YOU CAN START BUILDING THE ACTUAL UNITS UNTIL THE ROAD IS CONNECTED ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

SO THERE'S A PHASING ELEMENT ADDED TO THE POT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.

YEAH, I HAD ON THIS, UM, HAD TO DEAL WITH THE GARAGES.

ARE THESE ONE OR TWO CAR GARAGES FOR THE UNITS? I BELIEVE WAS ONE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF AVAILABLE PARKING FOR, UH, THE, THE TENANTS OF THESE HOMES.

SO I DIDN'T THINK WE HAD A CHANGE TO THE PARKING.

SO ONE ENCLOSED PARKING AND TWO OFF STREET.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS A CHANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE REQUIREMENT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO HAVE THREE SPOTS AVAILABLE, CORRECT? YES.

HAS TO SAY ABOUT THE SUGGESTION OF PHASING IN AFTER.

I'M GOOD THEN.

SO THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT THE APPLICANT

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I MEAN, JUST GET THE ROAD DONE BEFORE HE STARTED BUILDING HOUSES ON IT.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE A THOUGHT ON THAT? DO YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT? YEAH, WE HAVE A LITTLE CONCERN ABOUT JUST THE TIMING OF TWO DEVELOPMENTS AND, AND HAVING THAT PUNCH THROUGH BEFORE THE COMMERCIAL HAS DONE.

AND SO WE'RE A LITTLE HESITANT TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION.

UNDERSTANDABLY.

I THINK THAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS, AT LEAST FOR ME IS, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU PUT THE ROAD, THE ROAD IN THE COMMERCE STREET FOR THE SECTION OF THE SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOME.

YOU START BUILDING A FEW UNITS, YOU GET A, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU GET YOUR MODEL ON THERE.

EVERYTHING STARTS SELLING UNITS OFF.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S NOT GONNA ADD SO MUCH CAPACITY TO THE ROAD OVERNIGHT, BUT OF COURSE THE CONCERN THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE UP HERE, WHICH I THINK IS AN UNDERSTANDABLE ONE, IS THAT PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT'S MOVING ALONG.

AND THEN THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

AND, BUT THE HOUSES ARE GOING TO KEEP GETTING BUILT.

I MEAN, WE WERE IN A MASSIVE HOUSING CRUNCH.

THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THESE TOWNHOMES WILL GET BUILT.

SO IF YOU GET TO FULL BUILD OUT AND THAT ROAD STILL ISN'T GOING THROUGH, I THINK IT'S, UH, I THINK THAT THOSE ROADS ARE GOING TO SEE, UM, AND THIS IS COMING FROM A PERSON WHO USUALLY DOESN'T MAKE THIS ARGUMENT.

SO, I MEAN, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR AREA OVER THERE.

SO I I'D JUST BE INTERESTED IN MAYBE ANOTHER SUGGESTION OR ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE SPEED THAT WE COMMIT TO, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING, THERE ARE A LOT OF KIDS WALK THIS WAY.

I MEAN, IT WAS A BIG DEAL A FEW YEARS AGO AND THEY GOT THE, ALL THE SIDEWALKS PUT IN, THEY DROPPED ALL THE BUS SERVICE FOR THE NEARBY NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS WALKING BOTH TO THIS SCHOOL AND CAMACHO ELEMENTARY, JUST UP THE WAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERNS COMING FROM.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, I HAVE A QUESTION AND MAYBE IT'S FROM MS. GRIFFIN.

SO AT WHAT POINT, UM, SO I KNOW THEY NEEDED TO GET PERMITTING TO BUILD THE HOUSE, BUT AT WHAT POINT DO THEY NEED SOMETHING TO OCCUPY THE HOUSE SO THAT THEY CAN DO THINGS CONSECUTIVELY INSTEAD OF, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

LIKE HOLD THE CEO OR SOMETHING.

SO I KNOW THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LOOKS FOR TWO WAYS IN AND OUT OF A SUBDIVISION WHEN YOU GO OVER 30 UNITS.

UM, SO YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE THEY DO A CONCURRENT IT'S PENDING THE REVIEW BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO BUILD AT THE SAME TIME, BUT THEY CAN, THEY CAN WORK ON THE ROAD AND THE HOUSES AT THE EXACT SAME TIME, INSTEAD OF HOLDING ONE UP FOR THE OTHER, AND THAT KIND OF MEETS BOTH NEEDS WHERE WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE ADEQUATE, UH, ACCESS AS WELL AS THEY'RE STILL ABLE TO CONTINUE FORWARD THEIR PRODUCT.

I GUESS HONEST TO GOD, WHAT I'M ASKING IS, DO YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF SUGGESTION ON OR THOUGHTS ON THIS OVERALL? I MEAN, YOU'RE COMING AT IT UNDERSTANDABLY FROM THE BUSINESS STANDPOINT, WHICH IS THAT, HEY, LOOK, IF YOU LOCK US INTO THIS AND THIS THING GETS HUNG UP, THEN WE CAN'T GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUILT.

UNDERSTANDABLY, I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU IN THAT POSITION, BUT I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS A REASONABLE CONCERN ON OUR PART.

SO I'D BE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS ON HOW WE CAN JUST ENSURE THAT THERE AREN'T 123 UNITS AND NO SECONDARY ACCESS OUT TO ONE 83 OR RATHER PRIMARY ACCESS 23, UH, FROM THE DEVELOPMENT LIKE W W W WHAT, WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD THAT WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO THAT TROUBLE? YEAH, MY, MY THOUGHT IS NO LARGER THAN THIS IS.

IT'S PROBABLY BUILT OUT PROBABLY IN ONE PHASE, MAYBE TWO PHASES.

SO MAYBE THE TRIGGER IS, UM, I DON'T KNOW, MR. I'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF TRIGGER WE CAN DO THAT MAKES SENSE.

WHETHER THAT'S A NUMBER UNITS, MAYBE IT'S THAT 30 UNIT CAP OR SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE CEO'S ON THOSE AREN'T RELEASED UNTIL THAT CONNECTION IS MADE OR SOMETHING TO WHERE THEY CAN START DEVELOPING AND START CONSTRUCTION AND GET THE PHASE UNDER.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

WELL, HERE'S WHAT I WILL SUGGEST THEN.

I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT ANOTHER MEETING TO COME BACK TO, BUT I GET THE DISTINCT IMPRESSION THAT EVERYBODY'S MORE OR LESS ON BOARD WITH THE PROJECT.

SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD SIMPLY BE THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH THE STAFF SORTING SOMETHING OUT SO THAT THIS, YOU CAN COME TO COUNCIL WITH THIS SPECIFIC CONCERN ADDRESSED AT COUNCIL, AS OPPOSED TO FORCING YOU TO COME BACK AND DO ANOTHER DISCRETIONARY HEARING WITH US.

I WOULD FEEL REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH APPROVING 120 ODD UNITS WITHOUT SOME SORT OF MECHANISM TO TAKE SOME OF THE PRESSURE OFF OF SOUTHWEST.

YEAH, YEAH.

DOES THAT, I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT I DON'T WANT TO JUMP BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE HAS.

NEXT UP, WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 13, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 Z ZERO ONE ZERO TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF S F U TO DASH B SINGLE FAMILY, URBAN TO S F T TWO DASH B SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOME

SO IN THAT CASE, I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL THAT THEY APPROVE, UM, THIS POD, UM, AND ASK THAT THE, UH, APPLICANT SPECIFICALLY HAS AN ANSWER TO THE SECOND ACCESS ONTO ONE 83, BY THE TIME THEY, UM, SPEAK TO COUNCIL AND THEY CAN WORK THAT OUT WITH STAFF WE'VE, UH, FIRST, UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HEINZ SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSS, ALL IN FAVOR PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

[13. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-010 to amend the current zoning of SFU-2-B (Single-Family Urban) to SFT-2-B (Single-Family Townhouse) and GC-2-C (General Commercial) on two parcels of land approximately 14.037 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R031386 and R031387; and generally located south of Hero Way West and east of Bagdad Rd., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-010 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

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AND GC TO SEE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON TWO PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 14.037 ACRES IN SIZE, AND GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF HERE AWAY WEST AND BAGHDAD ROAD IN THE ANDREW WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, UH, MICHAEL CHASKY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

SO THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.

UM, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED THE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ALONG HERE AWAY AND SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOMES, UH, TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY OR THE SOUTH.

SO THE SURROUNDING AREA, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UH, OFF OF HIRO WAY WEST, AND WHICH IS BECOMING A MAJOR COMMERCIAL, UH, ARTERIAL ROADWAY.

THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ARE EITHER UNDEVELOPED LAND, UH, HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES, UH, ALONG WITH THE, UH, UM, CEMETERY I'M SORRY, TOUR, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT OFF SCREEN OVER HERE.

THE PROPERTIES THE NORTH DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH, UH, ARE EITHER UNDER REVIEW, UH, OR UNDER CONSTRUCTION COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, AND THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH ACROSS FROM THE, UH, CREEK IS A UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UH, DUPLEX DEVELOPMENT.

THIS PROPERTY WILL REQUIRE, UH, INTERNAL STREET NETWORK TO PROVIDE ACCESS, TO HEAR AWAY WEST FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH, AND AS WELL AS CONNECTING, UH, THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND POTENTIALLY TO THE FUTURE WEST COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, I'M SORRY, POTENTIAL EAST PROPERTIES.

SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UH, ALONG THIS MAJOR COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AND LOCATED WITHIN AN ACTIVITY CENTER, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE EXISTING OR UNDER REVIEW OR UNDER-DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL PROJECTS.

UM, THE TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT WOULD ACT AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL USES AND THE CREEK, AND THERE'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO HAVE A FEW PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK OR APPLICANT PRESENTATION.

UM, WE WILL MOVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND I DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

UM, THE BAGHDAD CEMETERY ASSOCIATION FROM MARY CAMERON AT 400 BAGHDAD ROAD IS AGAINST THIS ITEM, ANGELA WILLIAMS, UH, ONE OH ONE, ONE OH THREE GLASS DRIVE IS AGAINST THIS ITEM, CAT HOWELL AT ONE, ONE THREE, TWO SEVEN ZERO WAY IS AGAINST THIS ITEM.

AND MS. HALL, YOU DID WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

UM, THIS EVENING I AM UP HERE WEARING FOUR HATS.

MY FIRST HAT IS CHAIRMAN OF THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMISSION.

MY SECOND HAT IS THE NEAREST NEIGHBOR THAT ACTUALLY LIVES HERE.

THE THIRD HAT IS A MEMBER OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND THE FOURTH HAT IS I AM A PROFESSIONAL IN, UH, CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT.

UM, I AM VEHEMENTLY AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS THE WHALEY PROPERTY.

UM, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THING, UM, FOR THIS BODY, OTHER THAN IT'S GOING NEXT TO A CEMETERY IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MADE IT VERY PLAIN AND CLEAR IN, IN 2019 THAT THERE WILL BE NO MORE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OF ANY KIND ON HERO WAY.

IN THIS SECTION BETWEEN BROADWAY AND BAGHDAD ROAD, THE NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST, THEY WERE TOLD THEY COULD NOT HAVE THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND THAT IT WAS HA IT HAD TO BE 100% COMMERCIAL RETAIL OFFICE, THAT KIND OF THING.

THERE WILL BE NO RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT THAT PRECEDENT HAS ALREADY BEEN SET.

I DO NOT THINK IT WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING FOR THIS BODY TO SAY THAT WE CAN ALLOW IT FOR THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT DOOR, WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THE SAME PROPERTY WAS THE SAME PARCEL, SPLIT UP AND SOLD TWO TO TWO PEOPLE.

MY MOTHER, SOME OF YOU KNOW HER, SOME OF YOU DON'T, BUT MY MOTHER SPENT DECADES DEDICATING TO, UH, CEMETERIES.

THE NEXT THING IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AREA, WE TALKED ABOUT HERO WAY A NAUSEUM, AND THEY WERE IN TOTAL AGREEMENT THAT THERE WILL BE NO MORE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT ALONG.

HE WROTE WAY IT IS TOO BIG OF A FEEDER FOR THE CITY.

THE NEXT THING IS, UM, UH, VANDALISM OF CEMETERIES,

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SHE CREATED, SAVED TEXAS CEMETERIES.

SHE GOT LEGISLATION PASSED FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT WE HAVE VISITATION DAYS.

SHE SINGLE-HANDEDLY FORCED THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO CREATE A CEMETERY DIVISION.

MY MOTHER IS ROLLING IN HER GRAVE RIGHT NOW THAT WE WOULD ALLOW RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO BEING THIS CLOSE TO A CEMETERY.

THE VANDALISM FOR THIS CEMETERY WILL SKYROCKET THIS CEMETERY IS, IS VERY VISIBLE.

AND IT ALSO HAS THE MYSTIQUE, I GUESS, OF BEING PART OF THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE.

SO IT IS RIPE FOR VANDALISM AND PUTTING BORED TEENAGERS AND UNRULY ADULTS RIGHT NEXT TO IT IS THE WRONG THING.

UM, IT IS, IT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE PROTECT THIS CEMETERY AND PUTTING A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ANYWHERE NEAR IT IS WRONG.

UM, ANGELA WILLIAMS, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS SIDE? SO ANGELA WILLIAMS, 1103 GLASS DRIVE.

AND SO I ALSO DO NOT SUPPORT, UM, THE RE UH, AMENDMENTS TO ZONING THIS PROPERTY.

UM, I BELIEVE IT'S, UH, IT WOULD NOT BE GOOD FOR, UM, THE CEMETERY.

MY GRANDPARENTS ARE BURIED THERE.

UM, MY MOTHER HAS A PLOT THERE MORE THAN LIKELY I WILL BE BURIED THERE.

MY HUSBAND HAS SIX FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE BURIED THERE.

AND SO ASTHMA'S HOUSE SPOKE IS THAT, UH, I BELIEVE THAT ALSO THAT WE WILL HAVE INCREASED VANDALISM AND, UM, ACTUALLY MY GRANDMOTHER'S, UH, TOMBSTONE WAS STOLEN FROM BAGHDAD.

AND SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THAT.

AND, UM, SO ALSO NOT GOOD FOR LOVED ONES WHO HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE BURIED THERE.

AND, UM, ALSO I WAS LOOKING IN, UH, RESEARCHING A LITTLE BIT TODAY ABOUT, UH, PROPERTIES THAT ARE TO CEMETERIES, AND IT'S ACTUALLY NOT GOOD FOR HOMEOWNERS IN THE LONG RUN BECAUSE THEIR PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS.

THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY WILL BE LOWERED LIVING NEXT TO A CEMETERY.

SO I DO NOT SUPPORT, UH, A HIGH DENSITY HOMES BEING BUILT BY THE CEMETERY.

DO YOU, IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE PHONE THERE WAS SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF THEM AT THIS POINT, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION, UM, COMMISSIONER HINES.

UM, I THINK I'M GOING TO HOLD MY COMMENTS FOR A MINUTE WHILE I HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO SAY.

COMMISSIONER STYLES.

THIS IS CURRENTLY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY URBAN.

UM, I'M NOT REAL THRILLED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE, ESPECIALLY IN A TIME WHEN THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING HERE.

UH, AS MS. HOWELL HAS SAID, UM, SHE'S NOT REAL THRILLED WITH HAVING RESIDENTIAL NEXT TO THE CEMETERY, HAVING A CEMETERY ON MY FARM AS WELL.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS I HAVE.

HOWEVER, SEEN PEOPLE COME IN HERE AND SCREAM AT THE BAGHDAD CEMETERY ASSOCIATION SAYING, OH MY GOSH, WE DON'T WANT TO EXPAND.

WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE.

WE DON'T HAVE THEM THERE.

WE HAVE TO FIND SOME WAY THAT WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND FIND A SOLUTION.

UH, RIGHT NOW THEY CAN, AS I READ THIS, PUT SINGLE FAMILY URBAN HOUSES THERE, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING GENERAL COMMERCIAL, WHICH I WOULD THINK WOULD BE A BETTER TOUCH FOR THIS, UM, THAN WHAT'S THERE NOW, CONSIDERING THAT'S A FAIRLY MAJOR HIGHWAY, UH, WHEN WE DISCUSS THIS AND CONSIDER IT, I THINK WE SHOULD COME UP WITH A ALTERNATE PLAN FOR WHAT'S HERE IN PLACE.

NOW.

I'M NOT SURE I AM SURE THAT SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSES IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT HERE.

UM, WHAT DID WE DECIDE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION? THE CHARTER PLANNING COMMISSION IS THAT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ZONED CAUSE I'VE FORGOTTEN MORE ABOUT THAT THAN THAT.

THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE ZONED, UH, COMMERCIAL, UH, MO HOPEFULLY RETAIL, UH, THE ENTIRE, THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE ONE NEXT TO IT TO BE, UH, HOPEFULLY RETAIL, IF NOT RETAIL OFFICES.

PLAN WAS ADOPTED, BUT WITH THE NEW COMP PLAN, THIS IS A MULTI-USE CORRIDOR.

CAN I ASK MRS. GRYFFINDORS TO WEIGH IN ON THIS REAL QUICK ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT DR SELLS IS REFERRING TO FROM THE RECENT COMP PLAN UPDATE.

THE MAP THAT WE'VE GOT IN OUR PACKET IS THAT FROM THE NEWER YEAH.

IT'S, UM, IT'S COMPLICATED.

THEY SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION BEFORE THE COMP

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SO SAME AS THAT ONE, YOU'RE JUST DEALING WITH PREVIOUSLY.

THAT, THAT CORRIDOR DOES SAY THAT, UM, IT'S COMMERCIAL AND YOU CAN HAVE RESIDENTIAL, IF YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL TO SUPPOSED TO BE A SECONDARY USE AND NOT THE PRIMARY USE OF THE RIGHT.

AND I ASSUME THAT THEY'RE BELIEVING THEMSELVES TO BE IN LINE WITH THAT BECAUSE THERE IS COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE FRONT, HE TALKED TO THE APPLICANT, THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING THE COMMERCIAL SO DEEP ON THE PROPERTY AND IT BEING CHALLENGING TO HAVE A GOOD USER.

SO THEY THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD COMPROMISE.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AT OUR DISCRETION TO DETERMINE, BUT I MEAN, SHOULD WE BE BASING, IT SEEMS THE LOGICAL TO BASE THE DECISION-MAKING ON THE OLD FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND NOT THE NEW ONE, IF THE NEW ONE'S BEEN ADOPTED, BUT, AND YET YOU'VE PUT THAT OLD ONE IN THE PAST.

SO THAT THAT'S BEEN, UM, OUR POLICY CAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE COME IN UNDER THE OLD ONE AND IT WAS ALLOWED THEN, AND NOW THE PLANS CHANGE MIDSTREAM.

IT WAS, UM, TO BE FAIR TO THE APPLICANT, BUT THIS ONE, I MEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT DOESN'T IMPACT IT AS MUCH.

IT'S PROBABLY BETTER BECAUSE THE OLD, UH, CATEGORY WAS COMMERCIAL.

AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT IN THE PLANNING ANALYSIS, YOU BASED THE PLANNING ANALYSIS BASED ON THE OLD FUTURE LAND USE MAP, BUT ARGUABLY THIS TECHNICALLY FITS WITHIN THAT NEXT YEAR ON THE NEW ONE AS WELL.

THIS IS PART OF THE, UM, CHALLENGES WHEN YOU ADOPT A NEW PATIENT.

SURE, SURE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

DR.

STYLES.

APPRECIATE IT.

WELL, MY QUESTION GOES BACK TO ALL OF Y'ALL ON THE BOARD.

WHAT WOULD BE YOUR VISION FOR THIS TO MAKE IT WORK? I DO NOT WANT THE CEMETERY ASSOCIATION TO BE LOOKED UPON AS, OH MY GOD, THEY'RE THERE.

WE DON'T WANT THEM TO EXPAND.

WE DON'T WANT THEM TO DO THIS.

THEY'RE DESTROYING US.

THE OTHER PART OF IT IS, IS THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THEM.

I DON'T WANT THEM TO LOOK BACK AND SAY, THERE'S A CEMETERY.

WE CAN'T UTILIZE OUR PROPERTY.

WHAT IS THE SOLUTION HERE IS TO DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY? I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THE BACK OF MY MIND, BUT I'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL AS TO WHICH WAY TO GO FORWARD ON THIS THING, INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, NOPE, CAN'T DO IT.

IT'S JUST AS BAD AS SAYING.

AND WE DID HAVE A TIME.

AND I REMEMBER SWEDE WAS UP HERE WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH AND PEOPLE WERE SCREAMING.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO EXPAND THE CEMETERY.

MY GOSH, I DON'T WANT TO BARBECUE AND SEE DEAD BODIES POPPING OUT OF THE GROUND.

AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN THE SWEDE WAS SWEDE THAT NIGHT.

I DON'T THINK THAT SAYING THAT WE CAN'T HAVE ANYTHING NEXT TO THE CEMETERY IS REASONABLE ANY MORE THAN I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO SAY THAT WE CAN EXPAND THE CEMETERY OF SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS.

AND I TAKE NOTE OF KATHY'S CONCERN THAT VANDALISM IS A VALID, VALID CONSIDERATION.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

MR. HAMPTON.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY.

THAT'S RIGHT FOR CAPELLAS AND LEANDER ANIMAL CLINIC AND FAMILY DOLLAR.

IS THAT WHAT'S THAT? THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE.

YEAH, THE, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE DOLLAR GENERAL.

THE, WHAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED WAS DOLLAR GENERAL.

AND THEN, UM, THE, THE CLINIC IS DIRECTLY TO THE WEST AND THEN RIGHT BEHIND IT, IN THAT HIGHLIGHTED AREA, THE BIGGER BUILDING THERE TO THE SOUTH, THAT'S THE, UM, UM, KIDS, UH, THE GYM JUST AROUND THE BACK OF THOSE, WE DID THE, IT WAS THE TOW YARD RECORD.

IT WAS THEIR NAME OF IT, BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON IT, THIS LEANDER TOWING AND THEY ARE USING IT.

PARTLY THE, I THINK THE WHOLE GOAL WITH EVERYBODY IS TO KEEP THIS COMMERCIAL AND DAY USE.

DO YOU MIND IF NO, NO.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE ANSWERS I WAS LOOKING FOR.

DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON THE PHONE? GO AHEAD.

I, I JUST WANT TO POINT SOMETHING OUT FOR EVERYBODY, INCLUDING MS. HOWELL, MS. WILLIAMS, IS THAT, UM, I'M DOING LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF MATH HERE AND I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE PROPER.

NOW AS DR.

STYLES POINTED OUT, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY URBAN.

SO YOU CAN GO AND YOU CAN BUILD A STREET NETWORK AND YOU CAN BUILD HOUSES.

AND MY READ ON THIS IS THAT IT'S 14.37 ACRES IN TOTAL.

IS THAT RIGHT NOW, PRESUMING YOU WANTED TO GO IN AND BUILD THE MOST DENSE SINGLE FAMILY, URBAN PROPER DEVELOPMENT AS YOU CAN, RIGHT? THIS MOMENT AT, AT THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 7,200 SQUARE FEET.

AND I'M HAPPY FOR STAFF TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, BUT I DID A LITTLE ACRE TO SQUARE FOOTAGE CONVERSION AND JUST DIVIDED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE BY THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE, I GET 111 UNITS AVAILABLE

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ON THAT 14 ODD ACRES.

SO THAT'S WHAT IN THEORY, SOMEBODY COULD COME AND DO WITH THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.

NOW WHAT IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED RIGHT HERE? I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY ALL THE POINTS THAT ARE BEING MADE ABOUT THE SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE.

BUT, UM, IF, IF WE'RE THINKING SERIOUSLY ABOUT THINGS LIKE VANDALISM, I WOULD THINK THAT THE PROPORTION OF THAT SORT OF THING GOES UP AS YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE LIVING IN A GIVEN PLACE.

THE THING OF IT IS THAT WITH THE FRONT BEING COMMERCIAL AND ONLY THE BACK, UM, FIVE OR FIVE AND A HALF, SOME ODD ACRES BEING SINGLE FAMILY TOWN TOWNHOME.

WHEN YOU DO THE MATH ON THAT, YOU GO FROM, YOU BASICALLY GET 119 UNITS.

SO YOU CAN BUILD ONLY EIGHT MORE UNITS.

SO BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THIS GETS YOU A BUNCH OF COMMERCIAL AT THE FRONT, BUT EQUIVALENT OR CLOSE TO EQUIVALENT, THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS.

AND CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT HERE IS GETTING INTO A TAKING SITUATION WITH PEOPLE.

I MEAN, SURELY SINCE IT'S A, IT'S NOT A PUTT, IT'S TWO STRAIGHT ZONINGS, IT'S TWO STRAIGHTS.

ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED POINT THAT OUT FOR CLARITY SAKE, BECAUSE YOU CAN BUILD 111 UNITS NOW, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON TOP OF GEOGRAPHY AND THE WAY YOU BUILD YOUR STREETS AND WHATEVER, AND YOU CAN BUILD PRESUMABLY ABOUT 119 WITH THIS PROPOSAL, NOT DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT, BUT ONE OF THEM INCLUDES COMMERCIAL AND ONE OF THEM DOESN'T AT ALL.

SO AT LEAST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, OKAY, I DOUBT THIS IS A DOUBT.

THIS IS A DEVELOPER.

THIS IS SOMEBODY WANTING TO GET THE LAND ENTITLED.

HELLO? OH, SORRY.

UM, YES.

UH, UH, THAT'S A VALID POINT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ADDRESS THE ISSUE, WHAT THEY HAVE CONCERN ON THE SYMMETRY.

MAYBE WE CAN SEPARATE LIKE A MASONRY WALL OR SOMETHING TO PROVIDE THE SCREENING.

SO YEAH, THIS RIGHT MOMENT, LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THE 110 SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES BY DOING THIS.

WE ARE REDUCING THAT TO, YOU KNOW, ONLY 55 TOWNHOUSES SO THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE ARE REDUCING THE 50% AND I LOVING THAT.

SO THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT AND THE FRIENDS, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A BIT IN THAT, UH, ELLA WILL USE IS, BUT WE CAN ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS THEY HAVE ON THAT ASSYMETRY SIDE, LIKE THROUGH A MASONRY AND MASSIVELY WHILE SOMETHING.

SO, AND THAT RIGHT BEHIND THE CEMETERY, LIKE, UH, I KNOW THE CREEK IS SEPARATED.

THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION AND ALSO THE BRAND NEW TOWNHOUSES BEHIND US.

THEY'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK THOUGH.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY A CENTER.

HELLO? YES.

UM, SO IF ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT FIVE ACRES, IS THAT CORRECT? FIVE AND A HALF ACRES THAT WOULDN'T BE HOUSING.

AND SO SINGLE, WE'RE LOOKING AT TOWNHOUSES AND IT'S ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY URBAN, I BELIEVE, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO THAT'S A 70 TO A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET PER LOT.

AND WITH 45,000 SQUARE FEET TO AN ACRE, WE'RE LOOKING AT CLOSER TO FIVE, SIX, MAYBE ABOUT 33 TO 35 HOUSES.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? OR IS MY MATH ON? WELL, I ADMIT I'M NO EXPERT ON CONVERTING ACRES TO, UH, TWO SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT I JUST WENT TO GOOGLE.

I JUST WENT TO GOOGLE AND I D I DID IT.

AND BASICALLY WHAT I GOT IS ON THE TOTAL, UM, ON THE TOTAL 14.03, SEVEN ACRES, I GOT 611,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND ON THE 5.5 ACRES, I GOT 239,580 SQUARE FEET.

SO THEN I, I DIVIDED BY TWO 39, FIVE 80 BY A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 7,200.

AND THAT GOT ME 119 UNITS.

NOW, IN FAIRNESS, DR.

STYLES, YOU'VE GOT TO PUT IN AND ALL OF THAT AS WELL.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF, WHAT IF WE SAID 15% OF IT WAS STREETS, DOES THAT SEEM REASONABLE, EVERYBODY? SO IF I SAID, UH, TWO 39, FIVE, 80 TIMES 0.8, FIVE, THAT GETS ME TO OH THREE, UH, TWO.

OH, I'M SO SORRY.

I'M SO SORRY.

I'M DOING THAT ON THE TOWN HOME ONE, LET ME START OVER SIX 11, WHICH IS THE BIGGER ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SINGLE FAMILY.

IF YOU DID 15% OF THAT FOR FOUR STREETS, THAT GETS YOU FIVE 19, SEVEN 33.

IF YOU DIVIDE THAT BY 7,200, THAT'S REALISTICALLY, THAT'S ONLY ACTUALLY THAT'S ONLY 72 UNITS.

SO I, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT CONSIDERING THAT NOW FEED IS YOUR GOOGLE SAYING ISN'T A ACRE.

OH, UH, OKAY.

43,560.

NOW DIVIDE THAT BY 7,200.

WELL, THAT'S PRESUMING YOU COULD USE THE ENTIRETY OF THE APRIL-ISH PERSON ON IT FOR JUST A MOMENT.

HUMOR 43,

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SORRY.

SIX, SIX OH SIX TIMES 5.5 ACRES 0.5 33.

OH YEAH.

I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YOU'RE SAYING IF IT WAS SINGLE FAMILY URBAN ONLY THE FIVE.

FIVE.

YEAH, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S NOT, WHAT'S AT ISSUE HERE.

IS IT? WELL, THEY'RE ASKING FOR, UM, HE SAID 50 SOME ODD, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE'S GETTING THAT NUMBER FROM BECAUSE YOU TECHNICALLY COULD BUILD MORE THAN THAT.

HE'S SAYING IN A SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE PROJECT, I THOUGHT HE SAID, DID ANYBODY HEAR 55 YEARS FOR SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE OR SINGLE FAMILY URBAN.

SO IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY URBAN FOR THE ENTIRE TRACK THOUGH.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU AND COMMISSIONER HINES, YOU'RE THINKING THE SAME WAY, BUT YOU'RE KIND OF MISSING EACH OTHER AND, YOU KNOW, PASSING EACH OTHER IN THE NIGHT.

SO COMMISSIONER HOLLY, THAT CAN DO MATH BETTER THAN THIS END OF THE TABLE.

SO COMMISSIONER HINES IS TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE SECTION IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY URBAN, RIGHT? SO IF THEY WANTED TO, THEY COULD GO IN AND PUT A HUNDRED AND GOING TO GIVE THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO 72 UNITS ON THAT ENTIRE TRACT OF LAND.

WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT DR.

STYLES IS YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, IF THEY DID THE COMMERCIAL, LIKE THEY'RE ASKING FOR NOW, AND THEY ONLY DID SINGLE FAMILY URBAN BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY ZONED THAT WAY ON THE BOTTOM TRACK.

THAT WOULD BE A MUCH LESS PRODUCT.

THAT IS TRUE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING, BEING ASKED HERE.

AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANTS THAT HE'D BEEN LOOKING AT FOR URBAN, THEY WILL DO 110 HOMES.

OH, DIDN'T I THINK HE MEANT IF HE DID THE WHOLE TRACK WITHOUT ANY COMMERCIAL ON IT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALISTIC THOUGH.

I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT TO BUILD STREETS, BUT I MEAN, I MEAN, REALISTICALLY, RIGHT? LIKE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THAT.

I WOULDN'T MIND ASKING THE, I HEARD THE APPLICANT SAY SOMETHING ABOUT A NUMBER OF UNITS ON THE TOWNHOUSES NOW.

ULTIMATELY WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT A ZONING CASE HERE, BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE A LA YOU'D BE, YOU'D BE ABLE TO DO MORE THAN THAT.

DO YOU THINK MRS. GRIFFIN, UM, THEY'RE HAVING TO DO INDIVIDUALLY PLOTTED LOTS IN STREET SECTIONS.

SO THAT TAKES OUT SOME FOR THE TOWNHOUSE.

SO IT'S NOT A CONDO REGIME.

USUALLY YOU GET MORE UNITS WITH THE CONDO MACHINE.

SO THERE, I MEAN, THERE WILL BE AT LEAST SOME STREET INFRASTRUCTURE THERE.

YOU HAVE TO TAKE OUT LIKE A 50 FOOT WIDE STREET AND THEN THEY HAVE A PARKLAND DEDICATION THAT WOULD PROBABLY GO ALONG THE CREEK.

SO THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF IT.

I GUESS THE POINT THAT I'M GETTING AT THEN IS I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT IF WE JUST HAD 15.

I MEAN, IS THAT, I MEAN, WE'RE JUST, I'M JUST BALLPARKING IT, BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS ARE THEY GOING TO BUILD MORE OR LESS UNITS THAN WHAT THE ALTERNATIVE IS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A RELEVANT, OR AT LEAST A SALIENT POINTS AT WHAT MRS. HOWELL IS TALKING ABOUT.

IS ARE WE GOING TO GET MORE PEOPLE NEARBY? AND SHE HAS SOME, SOME CONCERN ABOUT HAVING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE NEARBY RIGHT NEXT TO THE, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO THE CEMETERY.

IF IT'S GOING TO BE LESS PEOPLE THAN WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED FOR, THAT SEEMS LIKE AN IMPROVEMENT TO ME.

IF YOU GET, IF YOU GET COMMERCIAL OUT OF IT AS WELL.

I MEAN, LIKE IT'S A WIN-WIN IF YOU DO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS THAN WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED FOR.

SO MOST OF OUR TOWNHOUSE PROJECTS WE'VE CALCULATED WITH OUR MULTI-FAMILY MAP.

THEY'RE ABOUT 10 UNITS PER ACRE WHEN YOU END UP THAT'S 55.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE CHAIRMAN IS OKAY WITH THAT, BUT IF MS. HALL WANTS TO, I MEAN, I JUST FEEL LIKE SHE'S GOT A LOT OF INFO ON THIS SORT OF THING, GIVEN WHERE SHE LIVES AND WHAT SHE KNOWS ABOUT THE CEMETERY ASSOCIATION.

COULD SHE COME UP AND RESPOND TO SOME OF THIS OR THOUGHTS ON IT? SURE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IS ONCE IT LEAVES HERE AND GOES TO COUNCIL FOR THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST, IT WAS, IT WAS, UM, MADE VERY CLEAR THAT THERE WILL BE NO MORE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT ON HEBREW WAY.

UH, AND THE PRECEDENT WAS SET AND THEY WERE TOLD ON THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY TO THE EAST, THERE WILL BE NO RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.

UH, WE ARE THE SECOND, UM, THAT PROPERTY TO THE EAST, THEY CAME IN ASKING FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT.

AND THAT WAS DENIED.

THAT WAS ANNOYED.

AND THEY WERE TOLD IF IT'S TIME TO GO COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? NO, MULTI-FAMILY, THEY DIDN'T SAY NO ANY SINGLE AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE COULDN'T STOP THEM FROM BUILDING RESIDENTIAL THERE.

THE COUNCIL , BUT THEY WOULD NOT BE TOWNHOUSES.

THEY WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY URBAN, WHICH IS 7,200 SQUARE FEET, AS OPPOSED TO 2000 SQUARE FEET.

I HAVE BIG DIFFERENCE.

IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY UNITS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I THINK IT'S ABOUT FEWER UNITS WITH THE TOWNHOMES AND YOU WOULD BE WITH THE 110 SINGLE FAMILY.

AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HALF THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

AND I GET THAT, BUT I DOUBT THAT ANYBODY'S GOING TO WANT TO BUY A HOUSE.

THAT'S GOING TO EMPTY OUT ONTO YOUR ROSE WAY.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

WELL, IF YOU WANT YOUR PETS TO BE ALIVE, YOU DON'T WANT TO YOU AND I MIGHT, BUT YOU AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

I GET THAT TOO.

BUT I THINK THAT WE COULD CERTAINLY POSSIBLY COME TO AN AGREEMENT TO WHERE IF, UM, MOST OF THIS IS COMMERCIAL AND THE BACKEND IS

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RESIDENTIAL.

THIS MAN CAN DEVELOP THIS THING.

AND, UM, WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT IF HE WANTS TO GO WITH WHAT HE IS ABLE TO DO, HE COULD, BUT SINGLE-FAMILY URBAN ON THE WHOLE THING WE'RE GOING TO GET IF WE WORK AT RIGHT COMMERCIAL ON THE FRONT END, AND THEN ON THE BACKEND RESIDENTIAL, UH, I'M NOT REAL HAPPY WITH PUTTING 200 SQUARE FOOT, LOTS HERE OR ANYWHERE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER.

BECAUSE TO ME, THAT'S JUST APARTMENT LIGHT.

I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT THINGS BACK THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CEMETERY BACK THERE ON WITH THE POSSIBILITIES OF VANDALISM, THIS SHOULD BE, IF IT'S NOT, SINGLE-FAMILY URBAN, WE'VE CERTAINLY GOT TWO OTHER STEPS TO COME DOWN, FAMILY COMPACT OR FAMILY LIMITED BEFORE WE GET DOWN TO TOWNHOUSE.

I THINK IF WE CAN GET COMMERCIAL OUT OF THIS, GREAT, IF WE HAVE TO TAKE TOWNHOUSES AND, UH, UH, I'M NOT REAL FOND OF THAT AT ALL.

I'M NOT REAL FOND OF STICKING A WHOLE BUNCH OF 2000 SQUARE FOOT, LOTS ALONG THE CREEK.

AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO ADVANTAGE AS WELL.

THAT BRUSHY CREEK IS RIGHT HERE NEXT TO THOSE 2000 SQUARE FOOT LAWNS.

THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE MINIMUM 1800 TO 2000 SQUARE FOOT UNITS.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 2000 LARGELY.

I KNOW THAT THE CODE ALLOWS A 2000 MINIMUM, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE BIGGER THAN THAT.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION.

THE 2000 IS MINIMUM, BUT THEY WOULD DO THEM BIGGER THAN THAT FOR THE LOT SQUARE FOOTAGE.

AND, AND ALSO TOO, UM, WHERE THE RECTANGLE IS AT THE, IN THE PURPLE PART TO THE EAST, THAT RECTANGLE AT THE BOTTOM, THEY'RE GOING ALONG BRUSHY CREEK.

THAT RIGHT THERE, THAT IS THE REGIONAL WATER RETENTION POND THAT'S OWNED BY THE CITY.

SO THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE UPSTREAM FROM THAT.

SO THE FLOOD CONSIDERATION LIKE FRANK WAS TALKING ABOUT, ARE YOU GOING TO BE BUILDING IN THE FLOODPLAIN THAT FLOODPLAIN HAS INCREASED? UH, THEY NEED TO, UM, UPDATE THAT MAP.

IT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE THAT PRETENSION HAS BEEN PUT IN THERE.

MA'AM, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PLEDGE STUDY AND UPDATE THAT MAP.

MR. RAY, I HAVE A QUESTION.

CAN, CAN YOU APPROVE ONE WITHOUT APPROVING THE OTHER? I THINK THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER STILES WAS TALKING ABOUT, THAT WE COULD APPROVE THE COMMERCIAL UPFRONT AND LEAVE THE BACK AS SINGLE FAMILY URBAN, BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH STRAIGHT ZONE.

I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT WHATSOEVER.

I LIKED, I MEAN, I'D LOVE THE WHOLE THING TO BE OFF COMMERCIAL.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT.

AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THE BACK END IS LENDING ITSELF TO COMMERCIAL, TO BE HONEST.

ABSOLUTELY.

ESPECIALLY WITH THE CREEK THERE AFTER, AND I HAVE TALKED TO MULTIPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS THROUGH THE YEARS AND WE'VE FLOATED THE IDEA THAT WOULDN'T IT BE WONDERFUL IF WE HAD A RIVER WALK IN THIS TOWN AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE UP ON THE SOUTH SAN GABRIEL, BUT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS WHERE THEY FEEL IT SHOULDN'T BE.

NOW THAT'S A PIPE DREAM FOR THE FUTURE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF OUR MIND.

BUT YES, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS, SIR.

YOU KNOW, ONE QUESTION I HAVE NOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL IS WHAT MAYBE MRS. GRIFFIN COULD ANSWER THIS, BUT LIKE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS STREET FRONTAGE ON A COLLECTOR ROAD GETTING, UH, THE C ARCHITECTURAL STANDARD TO STANDARD.

SO IT USED TO BE, WE REQUEST THE TYPE A, BUT NOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MAINSTREAM, RIGHT.

IT'S JUST TACKING WEIRD STUFF ONTO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, SO I, I LIKED THE IDEA OF SUGGESTED BY THE WAY.

UM, BUT ARE WE JUST KICKING THE, CAN DOWN THE ROAD A BIT, UM, BECAUSE IF THE NEW FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY FOR THIS, THE SAYING MULTI-USE CORRIDOR, THEN SINGLE FAMILY URBAN IS NOT A COMPATIBLE ZONING TYPE.

UM, UH, SORRY.

A COMPATIBLE USE COMPONENT FOR THESE COMPONENT TYPE FOR THIS.

SO REALLY WE'RE JUST KIND OF PUNTING IT A LITTLE JUST TO GET THE COMMERCIAL DONE.

I MEAN, TH THAT'S A, THAT'S A REASONABLE POINT.

UM, CERTAINLY IT WOULD BE BUILDABLE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP BECAUSE THE ZONING'S IN PLACE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I TH I THINK THAT THE, MY PRESUMPTION HERE IS THAT IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AND MAKE A COMMERCIAL AND LEAVE THE REAR SECTION, SINGLE FAMILY, URBAN, IT'S NO LONGER REALLY BUILDABLE.

THAT'S NOT FINANCIALLY VIABLE TO BUILD LOTS THAT SIZE ON A PROPERTY THAT SIZE RIGHT BEHIND COMMERCIAL.

SO, YOU KNOW, OKAY, FINE.

IF WE WANT TO DO IT, WE WANT TO DO IT.

BUT I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE REQUIRING THAT ONE TO EITHER NOT GET BUILT ON AT ALL, WHICH SOME PEOPLE MIGHT ARGUE IS THE BEST OPTION, OR SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK AND KEEP REQUESTING, YOU KNOW, A MORE, UH, MORE, AND THAT'S KINDA MY POINT FINANCIALLY VIABLE.

AN IDEA OF HOW WE CAN BUILD THIS THING.

WELL THEN SOMEBODY COME UP WITH

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AND, UH, I KNOW EVERYBODY'S NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY, BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE IT BUILT UPON, UM, WELL, I'M JUST NOT A FAN OF TOWNHOUSES.

I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIGGER BACK THERE.

THERE'S CERTAINLY THE MARKET FOR SOMETHING A LITTLE BIGGER IN THIS TOWN RIGHT NOW.

SORRY FOR CUTTING IN DR.

STYLES AND MS. HOWARD POINTED OUT AT THE VERY BEGINNING THAT OBVIOUSLY THAT EVEN, EVEN WITH THIS CURRENT ZONING, IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT THE CITY WANTS TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY.

UM, AND WHICH IS WHY WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHILE WE'VE DONE ALL THESE OTHER EXTENSIVE THINGS.

AND SO, BUT WHAT IT, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ACTUALLY IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, RIGHT.

WITH THIS MULTI-USE CORRIDOR.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE ZONING THAT WE HAVE TODAY, NOT COMPATIBLE.

I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HINES AND, UH, I RE COMMISSIONER STYLES.

I WISH, YOU KNOW, LET'S FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THIS DONE, BUT WITH COMMISSIONER HINES SAYING THAT WE COULD IMPROVE THE COMMERCIAL TODAY, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S GOING TO BUILD US ANY SINGLE FAMILY URBAN IN THE BACKGROUND.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK.

THAT'S WHY MY COMMENT ABOUT, ARE WE JUST KICKING THE, CAN DOWN THE ROAD? UM, ARE WE PUTTING IT TO A NEW COUNCIL, A NEW P AND Z? UM, OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS TONIGHT? THAT'S REALLY MY BIG QUESTION.

WELL, THESE HOUSES DO COME UP VERY CLOSE TO BRUSHY CREEK AND THEY'RE OUR HOUSE.

OUR HOUSE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

SO ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE TO COME THROUGH COMMERCIAL TO GET TO YOU, I DON'T BUY THE ARGUMENT THAT COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL CANNOT LIVE SIDE BY SIDE-BY-SIDE IF DONE CORRECTLY.

I ALWAYS, WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO PUT IN THE SECOND HEB AND SOME PEOPLE WERE AGAINST IT, I WAS LIKE, GOD, I'D LOVE TO HAVE ROLLED OUT A BED AND JUST HAD TO WALK OVER TO THE HEB.

SO I, YEAH.

SO, SO I THINK THAT WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.

UM, I, I, YOU KNOW, IF WE LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS, WE'RE GOING TO EITHER GET, UM, SINGLE FAMILY URBAN AND THE WAY THAT IT'S BEEN PRESENTED, WE CAN GET COMMERCIAL, BUT WE HAVE TO, UM, EXCEPT TOWNHOUSES.

HOW ABOUT WE, UM, GIVE THE COUNCIL SOME OPTIONS? WELL, THE COUNCIL HAS ALL OF THE OPTIONS.

OF COURSE THEY DO.

I WILL, I WILL SAY ONE THOUGHT THAT I HAVE, UH, SORT OF TO DR.

STILES POINT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY, TOWNHOUSE FEE, SIMPLE LOTS, YOU KNOW, YOU AS MRS. GRIFFIN POINTED OUT, I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE TO DO THEM ALL SEPARATE, THAT GIVES YOU A LOT LESS FLEXIBILITY IN THE WAY THAT YOU PLACE BUILDINGS AND THE WAY THEY SORT OF INTERFACE WITH THE LAND.

NOW, I ALWAYS GET A LITTLE BIT MIXED UP WITH THE WAY THAT THE COTTAGE HOUSING OPERATES, BUT I THINK IT WOULD ALLOW A SIMILAR NUMBER OF UNITS TO THIS, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO CLUSTER THE BUILDINGS AND, YOU KNOW, MOVE THEM FARTHER AWAY FROM THE FLOODPLAIN.

AND I MEAN, I, I PRESUME IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT OF IT MRS. GRIFFIN? AND THAT MAY BE A WAY OUT OF THIS.

DID YOU SAY YES.

I, THAT, THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION AS WELL.

IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN THAT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S NOT GONNA LET YOU PUT MULTIFAMILY, IT'S NOT GOING TO PUT A MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENT UNIT THERE.

IT'S GOING TO LET YOU DO TOWNHOUSE, ASK THINGS IN A WAY THAT CAN BE MORE CONDUCIVE TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT THERE AND THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AS WELL.

I WOULD, I WOULD THINK, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IN THE WAY THAT WE DO APPROACH THIS.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU FOLLOWED THE, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE APARTMENTS ARE CALLED.

IT'S OVER THERE BY HEB.

THE, BUT THEY, THEY HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN TOWNHOMES AND APARTMENTS.

AND ARE WE CREATING A SITUATION BY ZONING THE FRONT, UH, ACREAGE COMMERCIAL AS TO THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND ARGUE THAT WE'VE, UM, ALLOWED SOMETHING THAT ONLY ALLOWS THEM TO BUILD, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BUILD THEIR NOW, YOU KNOW, HAPPENING IF WE ZONED THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND LEFT THE SINGLE FAMILY URBAN.

SO, UM, MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, SO I'LL GO BACK TO MY POINT EARLIER.

UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACCEPTABLE USE CATEGORIES FOR THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR, IT'S ONLY SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOME, UM, SORRY, SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE.

UM, TO FAMILY COTTAGE HOUSING, THAT'S, IT, IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY USE COMPONENT.

SO I MEAN, THAT, THAT ALLEVIATES YOUR CONCERN RIGHT THERE WITH THEM HAVING TO COME BACK.

IF YOU LIVE ANYTHING BIGGER THAN THE COTTAGE HOUSES.

NOPE.

THAT'S IT.

THAT'S THE ONLY THREE IS SINGLE FAMILY TOWN, A TWO FAMILY, WHICH IS A, I MEAN, IT'S A 9,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE, BECAUSE IT'S TWO, TWO HOUSES ON IT.

AND THEN THE COTTAGE HOUSING, I GOTTA SAY, I THINK THAT THAT COTTAGE HOUSE A THING, IT COULD BE A GOOD SOLUTION

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FOR THIS ONE.

IT SPEAKS TO SOME OF DR.

STYLES POINT, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO AGREE WITH MARSHALL.

WHAT IS THIS, WHAT IS THIS COMMISSION COMING TO? IT'S PROBABLY THE, IT'S ONE OF THE SEALS OF THE SEVEN SEALS, MAN.

SO THE COTTAGE HOUSING MIGHT REQUIRE A RE NOTIFICATION.

IT MIGHT, I NEED TO INVESTIGATE THAT THE ISSUE IS IT'S, IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DISTRICT THAT HAS MULTIPLE UNITS ON ONE LOT.

SO WE'D PROBABLY NEED TO RE NOTIFY IT.

DOESN'T IT'S NOT JUST A CUMULATIVE THING WITH THE REST OF MULTI, I MEAN, WITH THE REST OF SINGLE FAMILY YEAH.

FOR IN THE RANGE.

SO I JUST WOULD BE CONCERNED AND WANT TO CHECK IT FIRST.

WELL, I MEAN, I, I DON'T WANT TO JUMP THE GUN, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE COALESCING AROUND SOMETHING.

SO MY INCLINATION WOULD BE TO SAY, WHAT IF, IF THE DIRECTION WE WANTED TO GO WAS WHAT WE SUGGESTED HERE, SUGGEST THAT THEY GET GENERAL, GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON THE FRONT AND THAT THEY HAVE TO DO COTTAGE HOME ON THE BACKSIDE.

WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST OUR PROCEDURAL OPTION IS? YEAH, I THINK YOU WOULD.

I NEED TO FIND OUT IF THEY HAVE TO RE NOTIFY.

UM, SO YOU COULD, YOU COULD MAKE THAT, THAT MOTION AND WE COULD TAKE IT TO COUNCIL AND SEE IF THEY AGREE ON TOWNHOUSE OR NOT.

AND IF THEY WANT COTTAGE HOUSING, WE COULD START THE NOTICE PROCESS.

WE COULD ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY WANT TO JUST CHANGE AND START THE NOTICE PROCESS NOW AND POSTPONE THEIR OTHER PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS WE COULD LOOK AT, BUT THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING ISN'T UNTIL JUNE 3RD, BUT THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS WOULD BUMP IT FOR, EVEN FOR US.

WE COULDN'T DO IT BY OUR NEXT MEETING.

IS THAT BECAUSE OF HOW YOU NOTICE IT, BUT DO WE NEED TO DO IT BY OUR NEXT MEETING? CAN WE JUST ALLOW, CAN WE APPROVE THAT AND ALLOW THEM TO START A NOTIFICATION PROCESS PRIOR TO GOING TO COUNCIL? OH, WOULD IT GET DONE BY COUNCIL? THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

I'LL NEED TO CHECK.

SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION, I CAN VERIFY IT.

AND IF IT'S A PROBLEM, WHEN YOU COME BACK, YOU KNOW, MY ONLY MY PROBLEM WITH THIS SORT OF SEPARATE FROM THIS INDIVIDUAL CASE IS IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T FEEL LIKE SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES NOTIFICATION.

AND IF IT DOES, IF LEGALLY, YOU THINK THAT IT DOES, THEN LET'S DO THAT.

THAT'S AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION TO PUT THE APPLICANT IN.

I HAVE TO SAY, AS WE'RE GENERALLY TRYING TO KEEP THEM FROM GETTING PROJECTS, DRUG OUT FROM HERE TO ETERNITY.

SO I CERTAINLY THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, BUT WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDED, UM, UH, RECOMMEND, EXCUSE ME.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL THAT THEY, UM, APPROVE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON THE FRONT AND COTTAGE HOME ON THE BACKSIDE, IN THE SAME DIMENSIONS AS THEY'VE SHOWN IN THE APPLICANT IS SHOWN IN THEIR, UM, IN THEIR APPLICATION.

BUT NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT WE NEED TO PUT IN THIS MOTION, HOW MUCH COMMERCIAL FRONT? OH, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.

I THINK IF WE REQUIRE OUR RECOMMENDATION IS SO THAT THE DIVISION OF THE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY IS THE SAME AS THE APPLICANTS, WHICH WAS WHAT, SEVEN AND FIVE AND A HALF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEN I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

ITEM, NUMBER 14, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 Z ZERO ONE.

THEN THAT'S THE MOTION AS A STANCE OFF, SECOND THING IS THE BEST WE CAN GET.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HINES AND THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER, COSGROW ALL IN FAVOR.

I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST IT.

JUST SO DONNA CAN'T GIVE ME CRAP ABOUT IT LATER ON, BUT I, AND TO DO COMMISSIONER STYLES AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON OPPOSE, YOU'VE BEEN AGREEING WITH COMMISSIONER HINES.

WHY CHANGE NOW? SO MANY REASONS, DONNIE, SO MANY REASONS MOVING ON TO AGENDA,

[14. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-011 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) and Interim SFS-2-B (Single-Family Suburban) to GC-3-C (General Commercial) on one parcel of land approximately 2.838 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R031225; and more commonly known as 10984 E. Crystal Falls Pkwy., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-011 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

ONE TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR.

ONE DASH B SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL AND INTERIM S F S TO DSB SINGLE FAMILY, SUBURBAN TO GC THREE C GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 2.8, THREE EIGHT ACRES IN SIZE AND GENDER, MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS ONE OH NINE, EIGHT FOUR EAST CHRISTOPHER CHARLES PARKWAY.

WE ENTER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS JUSTIN HUNT.

I'M WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.

THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO SELL IT AND MAKE IT CONSISTENT, CONSISTENT WITH NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.

THIS SITE IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 500 FEET FROM THE CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY AND RONALD REAGAN BOULEVARD INTERSECTION HEADED EAST ALONG CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY.

THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND WEST ARE ZONE GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND ARE CURRENTLY DEVELOPED A SINGLE FAMILY.

THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY IS ALSO ZONED GENERAL COMMERCIAL, BUT IS UNDEVELOPED.

THE PROPERTY LOCATED ACROSS AS CRYSTAL FALLS.

PARKWAY IS OWN SINGLE FAMILY.

THERE IS SIGNIFICANT TREE COVER, UH, ON A LARGE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AND A VACANT SINGLE FAMILY HOME, NO DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS REQUIRED FOR THIS CASE.

PUBLIC NOTICES WERE MAILED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

ADDITIONALLY, THE AGENT REACHED OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500

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FEET.

THERE WERE NO HOS WITHIN 500 FEET AND A TOTAL OF 12 PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE BEEN SENT, SENT THE LETTERS, NOTIFIED OWNER ERIC DAVIS, OWNER OF PLEASANT HILL STORAGE ONE OH NINE, EIGHT SEVEN EAST CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY CALLED THE APPLICANT STATING HIS SUPPORT WITH THE CHANGE.

THE APPLICANT ALSO SPOKE WITH DAVID AND CELESTE EQUALLY AT ONE OH NINE 65 EAST CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY.

AND THEY ARE SUPPORTED OF, UH, OF THE ZONING CHANGE AS WELL.

NO OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE RESPONDED A COPY OF THE NOTIFICATION LETTER AND LIST IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

AND WE ALSO RECEIVED ONE POSTCARD AND SUPPORT, AND THAT WAS ALSO FROM PLEASANT HILL STORAGE.

UH, THE PROPERTY HAS ACCESS FRONTAGE ALONG CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY.

AND THIS REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT ZONING AND LAND USES IN THE AREA.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, DESIGNATES THIS AREA ALONG RONALD REAGAN AND A PRIORITY COMMERCIAL CENTER IN A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, WHICH LISTS GC AS A COMPATIBLE USE.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR THIS CASE.

AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE A PRESENTATION? COULD HE MEAN I'M DAVID MARTIN? MY WIFE AND I ARE BOTH HERE TONIGHT, BETHANY.

AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE AN APPEARANCE.

IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE COMMERCIAL USE AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR CONFORMING USE.

WE THINK THAT, UM, IT'S REALLY A MISSING PUZZLE PIECE TO BEING ABLE TO OPEN UP DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.

SO THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO REALLY SAY TONIGHT.

THANKS HERE.

AT THIS POINT, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE OR ON THE PHONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF THEM NOT, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER, MAN, NO QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER COSGRAVE.

NOW THIS ONE HURT MY HEAD.

THE LEAST COMMISSIONER ROSS COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.

NO QUESTION, MR. STILES, WHO ARE THE OWNERS OF, UM, PLEASANT HILL STORAGE? DO WE KNOW, ARE THOSE THE HALLWAYS THAT WOULD BE, YEAH, THAT THE ERIC DAVIS OWNER, UH, PLEASANT HILLS STORAGE.

15, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 T O D ZERO, THAT 21 TOD Z DASH ZERO ONE TWO TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF C US CIVIC SPACE TO FIVE URBAN CENTERS ZONE WITHIN THE PUD TOD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 0.26 ACRES IN SIZE AND COMMONLY KNOWN AS ONE OH FOUR NORTH RASHID STREET AND THE ANDREW WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

THAT'S ALL.

I HAVE MR. HAWKINS AS AN EASY ONE.

UH, I HAVE NOTHING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE NOW.

SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MAY 2ND BY COMMISSIONER HINES.

ALL IN FAVOR, PASSED UNANIMOUSLY ON TO ITEM.

NUMBER

[15. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-TOD-Z-012 to amend the current zoning of CS (Civic Space) to T5 (Urban Center Zone) within the PUD/TOD (Planned Unit Development/Transit Oriented Development) on one parcel of land approximately 0.26 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R036103; and more commonly known as 104 N. Brushy St., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-TOD-Z-012 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

GOOD EVENING.

THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY FROM CIVIC ZONE TO T FIVE URBAN CENTER TRANSIT ZONE.

IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A BREW PUB IN A RESTAURANT, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL INCLUDE THE BREWING OF BEER, A TAPROOM AND A RESTAURANT.

SOME SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR THIS PROPERTY ARE, UH, THAT THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND WAS PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED AS A CITY OFFICE.

THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAS WORKED WITH POTENTIAL TENANTS THAT WOULD LIKE TO RENOVATE THE SPACE AND USE IT AS A BREW PUB.

THIS USE WILL CONTINUE THE VISION OF OLD TOWN BY PROVIDING ADDITIONAL WALKABLE USES.

THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN OLD TOWN LEANDER AND AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL CITY OF LANDER INCORPORATED IN 1978, THE SITE IS SITUATED BETWEEN THE LAND BEER MARKET TO THE NORTH ZONE T4 AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO EXCUSE ME TO THE SOUTH CITY HALL IS LOCATED TO THE WEST AND BERT WITCHER JEWELRY STORE IS LOCATED TO THE EAST ZONED T FIVE CITY HALL.

AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ARE BOTH ZONED AS CIVIC AS WELL.

A FEW, THERE ARE A FEW EXISTING TREES ON THE PROPERTY, UH, WITH THE DAVIS HOUSE AS THE ONLY EXISTING PRIMARY STRUCTURE ON THE SITE.

A DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD WITH CITY STAFF ON APRIL 19TH, 2021.

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AND ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC NOTICES THAT WERE MAILED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM MAILED OUT LETTERS TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500 FEET, BUT NO RESPONSES HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH REPORT HAS BEEN ADDED TO YOUR PACKET FOR YOUR REFERENCE.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN OLD TOWN AND IS IDENTIFIED AS OLD TOWN MIXED USE BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROPERTIES WITHIN OLD TOWN, HAVE THE OPTION TO DEVELOP UNDER THE CONVENTIONAL ZONING OR THE SMART CODE.

THE APPLICANT HAS SELECTED THE SMART CODE.

THE T FIVE TRANSECT ZONE WILL PROVIDE FOR A VARIETY OF LAND USES, INCLUDING A BREW PUB AT A HIGHER INTENSITY AND ALCOHOL SALES ARE PERMITTED IN THE T FIVE URBAN CENTER TRANSIT ZONE BY WARRANT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR INFILL DEVELOPMENT TO COMPLIMENT THE EXISTING HISTORIC FABRIC OF OLD TOWN.

THIS PLAN ENCOURAGES A MIX OF USES, INCLUDING OFFICE RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS.

OLD TOWNS SHOULD BE EXTREMELY WALKABLE PROVIDING FOR A SAFE AND CONVENIENT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THROUGHOUT THIS AREA.

THIS IS ALL I HAVE FOR THIS CASE, AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE A STUFF OR, UM, AFRICAN PRESENTATION ON THIS? IF NOT, WE WILL OWN IT.

UM, SO I WILL SAY WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMISSION ON THIS.

UH, WE'VE KEPT THEM UPDATED.

UH, WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS ONE OF OUR HISTORIC PROPERTIES.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WE DO, UH, KEEPS THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FRONT OF IT LOOKS THE SAME.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THE, TO LEASE OUT THE BUILDING TO KIND OF DO A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WHERE THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE NECESSARILY THE FUNDS TO FIX IT UP THE WAY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE USED FOR OUR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.

BUT IF WE LEASE IT OUT, LET THEM PAY THE EXPENSES OF FIXING IT UP.

UM, OVER TIME, WE'LL GET THAT BUILDING BACK AFTER LUIS HAS FINISHED.

AND DURING THAT TIME WE'LL HAVE A GOOD, UH, ADDITION TO OLD TOWN.

SO WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF REJUVENATION IN THIS AREA.

I THINK THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER EXCELLENT USE IN OLD TOWN, AND IT'S A GOOD WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL OF PRESERVING THAT BUILDING AND SAVING IT.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SO WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE DO HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AT HOME.

UM, HELLO.

UM, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE, AS CHAIRMAN OF THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMISSION.

UM, WE ARE FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT I WANTED TO, I GAVE EVERYBODY TWO PICTURES HERE.

THE FIRST PICTURE HERE IS THE ORIGINAL PLAT.

AND IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE BAR, THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PLATTER LEANDER.

AND IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, UM, SQUARE 18, THERE'S HIGHLIGHTED, IT'S, UH, COLORED IN AND COLORED PENCIL RED.

THAT IS THE ORIGINAL LAND THAT WAS PURCHASED FOR THE DAVIS HOUSE.

UH, IT INCLUDED THE DAVIS HOUSE THE LOT NEXT TO IT.

AND THEN, UH, WHERE THE CHAMPION HOUSE IS.

NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER PICTURE, THAT IS THE AERIAL VIEW.

AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, THE, UH, WHERE THE WATER TANK IS, IS WHERE THE CHAMPION HOUSE IS SITTING NOW, THEN THERE'S THAT EMPTY LOT.

AND THIS WAS TAKEN BACK WHEN THE DAVIS HOUSE WAS STILL SINGLE STORY.

UM, I'M UP HERE PARTIALLY.

THIS IS ONGOING ON PUBLIC RECORD WHEN WE FINISH, UM, THIS RENOVATION AND THE BREW PUB HAS MOVED IN AND HAD DONE, UH, THE WORK THAT THEY NEED TO DO THAT IS AT THAT TIME, THE AGREEMENT HAS BEEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER IN THE AGREEMENT IS AT THAT TIME THAT'S WHEN WE WILL GO FOR THE TEXAS HISTORICAL MARKER, WE'RE GOING TO GET ALL THE WORK DONE AND THEN GET THE MARKER SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THE HISTORICAL MARKER, UH, MAKES FOR US.

SO IT IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR US WITH THE BREW PUB MOVING IN THERE.

AND, UH, WE GET, WE GET OUR BUILDING RENOVATED AND THEN WE CAN GET THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION.

NOW I'M POINTING THIS OUT, UM, THAT LOT, BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL LOT THAT THIS BUILDING WAS ON.

AND IT'S STILL THERE.

THAT LOCK IS CONSIDERED HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT CONNECTED TO THAT BUILDING.

THIS ZONING CASE IS NOT INCLUDING THAT LOT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED, WE WILL NEED TO ADDRESS IN THE FUTURE.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE THC IS GOING TO HANDLE THAT, BUT HISTORICALLY IT IS CONNECTED TO THE BUILDING.

DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? OKAY.

DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

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WITH THAT? YES.

WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO CALL HER BACK? ALL RIGHT.

NO ONE ELSE SPEAK.

NO, ONE'S ON THE PHONE.

UH, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION.

LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER HOLMES.

I'M GOING TO LET, UH, DR.

STYLES GO FIRST, BUT, UM, MRS. HALL, WILL YOU REMIND ME THE STREET ADDRESS OF THE DAVIS HOUSE? DO YOU KNOW THAT ONE OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? ONE OF FOUR.

I WAS A LITTLE, UM, CONCERNED ABOUT THAT IF WE DON'T USE THAT LOT, THAT WE MIGHT LOSE THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION OF IT, BUT THE BRYSON HOUSE HAD A LOT OF LAND TIED TO IT AS WELL.

AND WE TRADED OFF SOME OF THAT AND THERE WAS SOME, SOME LAND THAT WAS ORIGINALLY WITH IT THAT WENT ELSEWHERE AND WE TRADED FOR SOME OTHER THINGS.

DID THAT AFFECT THE HISTORICAL? WELL, WE HAVE NOT VERIFIED THAT WITH THE THC YET.

ALTHOUGH I AM IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH THEM, WE DO HAVE THE DEED HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY FROM ITS INITIAL.

THAT, THAT ACTUAL, THE, THE PICTURE OF THE PLAT CAME FROM THE ABSTRACT OF TITLE.

I HA I HAVE COPIES OF IT.

I WAS ALLOWED TO COPY THE ENTIRE THING.

SO WE DO HAVE THAT.

SO FOR THE EDIFICATION OF MAN FOR THIS BOARD, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY THE MASON HOUSE AND IT WAS ONE STORY.

UH, I BELIEVE DR.

STOCKTON, UH, BUILT, IT WAS ORIGINALLY, IT WAS ORIGINALLY OWNED BY, UH, IT WAS PART OF THE, UM, UM, E ED.

UM, I CAN'T THINK OF IT.

UH, CC MASON BOUGHT IT FROM THE ED HARMAN SURVEY AND THEN CC MASON SOLD IT TO, UH, AUSTIN NORTHWEST RAILROAD.

AND THEN WHEN IN 1882, WHEN THEY, UM, SUBDIVIDED AND PLOTTED IT ALL OUT, DR.

STOCKTON BOUGHT IT.

SO THE ORIGINAL HOUSE THAT WAS THERE, DR.

STOCKTON PUT THAT ON THERE.

AND IT WAS ONE STORY.

IT WAS NOT CORRECT.

DO WE KNOW WHEN THEY PUT THE SECOND STORY? CAUSE WE HAVE THE PICTURE HERE FROM 1900 AND IT CLEANLY, IT'S NOT TWO STORY OF 1900.

DO WE KNOW WHEN THE SECOND STORY WAS? I BELIEVE IT WAS PUT ON IN THE LATE TWENTIES, EARLY THIRTIES.

I CAN ASK HER ABOUT IT.

ABOUT THAT.

YEAH, NO, THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.

IT'S KIND OF APPROPRIATE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A BREW PUB IN HERE BECAUSE DURING THE PROHIBITION, DR.

STAR, DR.

STOCKTON WOULD HAVE CARD GAMES OVER AT HIS PHARMACY AND THEY WOULD, HE WOULD SELL THEM WELL, HE WOULDN'T SELL THEM.

THEY WOULD BUY, UH, THEY WOULD PARTAKE OF MEDICINAL ALCOHOL BECAUSE HE ALSO GIVING OUT THE PRESCRIPTIONS, NO, HE WAS A PHARMACIST.

HE WAS NOT A PHYSICIAN, SO HE COULD NOT DO THAT.

BUT THEY ALWAYS SAID THAT HE SAT ON THE BACK ROW OF THE BACK PEW OF THE METHODIST CHURCH ON SUNDAYS.

AND HE WAS SO HUNG OVER THAT HE'D SLEEP THROUGH THE SERVICES.

SO IT'S KIND OF COOL THAT THERE'LL BE A BREW PUB HERE AS SOON AS, SO THIS IS WHERE EVERYBODY WANTS TO DRINK DURING PROHIBITION.

AND, UH, DR.

STOCKTON DID OWN HIS HOUSE BEFORE THE DAVIS'S DID.

AND I'VE KNOWN BOTH FAMILIES WHO SAID THAT NOT STOCKTON WAS TOO CHEAP TO BUY A WATCH.

SO WE WOULD COME OVER AROUND THE CORNER WHERE SHE WAS WITH MY GRANDFATHER'S BANK AND HAD A BIG CLOCK IN THERE.

AND HE'D ALWAYS LOOK AT THE CLOCK IN THE BANK TO TELL WHAT TIME IT WAS, BECAUSE HE JUST WASN'T GOING TO BUY HIS OWN CLOCK.

AND YOU COULD ALWAYS TELL IT WAS ALMOST LUNCHTIME BECAUSE DR.

STOCKTON WOULD COME AROUND THE CORNER AND LOOK IN THE WINDOW TO SEE WHAT TIME IT WAS.

SO I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS.

UH, I HOPE THAT WE TAKE ADEQUATE PRECAUTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HISTORICAL VALUES OF THIS ARE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND I THINK WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED ALL OF THIS, THAT WE'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE, SOME OF THE HISTORICAL ASPECTS OF THESE CARS, THESE OLD HOUSES AS KATHY AND I BOTH KNOW ARE COLD IN THE WINTER AND HOT IN THE SUMMER.

AND IN SOME OF THE STAFF KNOWS THAT TOO, THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE UNTIL WE APPLY FOR THIS HISTORICAL PLAQUE AND IT WILL MAKE IT A BETTER PROPERTY WHILE KEEPING THE HISTORICAL ASPECTS.

THE FRONT OF IT REALLY HITS HOME.

WE COULD CERTAINLY DO WITHOUT SOME OF THOSE LEAKY WINDOWS THAT RATTLE IN THE WINTER AND YOU CAN STAND BY AND IT'LL BE 38 DEGREES NEXT TO THOSE WINDOWS.

SO I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS.

THIS IS A NICE PROJECT.

AND, UM, AS FAR AS THE NEXT LOT TO IT, I DON'T, I'M SURE HOW THAT AFFECTS IT, BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE AT THIS POINT, BUT IT'S GOOD THAT YOU NOTED IT.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE.

MR. HAMPTON.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT US.

OKAY, PERFECT.

ACTUALLY, IF IT'S NEAR MINE, THAT ANSWER MY QUESTION.

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THAT WAS GONNA ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

PERFECT.

IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THAT GREAT OLD HOUSE AND THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PRESERVED AND NOT FALLING DOWN THE WAY IT IS.

CAUSE IT MAKES ME SO SAD EVERY TIME I DRIVE BY IT.

SO I THINK IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE BUSINESS MR. COSGROVE.

YEAH, I THINK, UM, THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESERVE THE HISTORICAL NATURE OF THE DAVIS HOUSE, GET SOMETHING, UM, OF VALUE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND GET THE HISTORICAL MARKER THAT IT DESERVES, I THINK, UM, IS A GOOD THING FOR EVERYBODY.

SO I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS, MR. MAN, SAME AS A COMMISSIONER'S RAWSON PLUS GROW.

UH, IF I COULD NOW JUST, IF I HAD A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION, UM, I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S AN INTERESTING, UH, QUESTION THAT MRS. HOWELL BROUGHT UP.

I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, CLEARLY THAT THE MOVING THIS FROM THE CIVIC SPACE, CIVIC CIVIC SPACE DESIGNATION TO T FIVE IS WITHOUT QUESTION THAT THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE, BUT IT DOES MAKE ME WONDER, I DON'T, NOW THAT I REALIZE THAT THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT THE CHAMBER IS ON THE CHAMPION HOUSE IS DESIGNATED AS A CIVIC SPACE.

WHY DOESN'T THAT HAVE TO HAVE AN ACTUAL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, CIVIC SPACES, NOT EVEN A TRANSECT.

EXACTLY.

IT'S JUST LIKE SORT OF A SUB DESIGNATOR.

WHY, WHY DOESN'T THAT ONE HAVE A TRANSECT APPLIED TO IT? I'D HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH.

I KNOW THAT IT HAD A ZONING DISTRICT THAT WHEN WE ADOPTED THE SMART CODE, THEY ESTABLISHED PROPOSED TRANSECTS FOR THE AREA.

AND IT MIGHT BE ONE THAT WAS CONVERTED ON THE MAP TO CIVIC.

CAUSE IT WAS OWNED BY THE CITY, BY THE CITY.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADDRESS AT A LATER DATE IF WE WANTED TO ESTABLISH A TRANSECT, IT JUST WASN'T PART OF THE ORIGINAL.

YOU SAID LATER DATE, JOB LATER DAY.

UH, ANYWAY, NOW THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

I MEAN, SEPARATE, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE BUSINESS AND ALL THAT, BUT PURELY FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS OUGHT TO BE.

SO THAT THIS SORT OF THING, YOU KNOW, CAN GROW AND BE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, REALLY IMPRESSIVE AND EXCITING.

SO I SAY, LET'S GET IT DONE.

I'LL SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER ROSS.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINES, ALL IN FAVOR, PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

AND WITH, UH, THE TIME IS 9:08 PM.

WE HAVE ONE MORE.

[16. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-009 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) and Interim SFS-2-B (Single-Family Suburban) to create the PEC Hero Way Substation PUD (Planned Unit Development) with base zoning of HC-4-D (Heavy Commercial) on one parcel of land approximately 5.01 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R032155; and more commonly known as 13151 Hero Way West, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

DISCUSS GETS YOUR ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 Z ZERO ZERO NINE.

TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM S F R ONE DASH B SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL AND INTERIM SFS TO THE SB SINGLE FAMILY, SUBURBAN TO CREATE THE PC HERO WAY, SUBSTATION PUD WITH A BASE ZONING OF HC FOUR D HEAVY COMMERCIAL ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 5.01 ACRES IN SIZE AND MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS ONE THREE, ONE FIVE, ONE HERO WAY WEST LEANDER, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REVIEWED THIS REQUEST DURING THE APRIL 22ND MEETING AND POSTPONED ACTION UNTIL TONIGHT, THE COMMISSION REQUESTED THAT THE APPLICANT REVISE THE APPLICATION TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING, PROVIDE A RENDERING OF THE PROPOSAL, UH, FOR CLARIFICATION, UH, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SCREENING AND INCREASE THE SETBACKS FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

SO WE'LL SKIP SOME OF THIS INFORMATION SINCE WE SHOULD ALL BE FAMILIAR.

UM, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS MADE SOME UPDATES TO THE PUD.

UH, SINCE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON APRIL 22ND TO INCLUDE A 200 FOOT NONDISTURBANCE BOUNDARY FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE AND A 50 FOOT FRONT SETBACK, UM, THAT CAN KIND OF BE VISIBLE ON THIS AERIAL, UH, ANDY, A 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE SETBACK ALONG HERE AWAY.

SO THE LANDSCAPE SETBACK WILL BE, UM, HOW WE CALCULATE THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT.

AND I CAN GO FURTHER, BUT I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YEP.

AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF WE HAD A SETBACK, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MOVE, REMOVE ALL OF THE INVASIVE SPECIES.

UH, DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE FOR PRESENTATION? OKAY.

THIS POINT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE NO ONE TIME NOT TO SPEAK NO ONE ON THE PHONE SO WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER, MAN.

UM, I'M GOOD WITH THIS.

THANKS MR. COSGRAVE.

I ASKED FOR 200 FEET THERE'S 200 FEET MR. ROSS COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.

GOOD TO GO.

COMMISSIONER STYLES.

WHAT IS A NONDISTURBANCE IS ONLY I'LL SHOCK THEM OR SOMETHING.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? UM, SO TYPICALLY

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SO IN THIS CASE THEY WILL LEAVE EVERYTHING AS IS.

THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW.

I HAD TALKED TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ACROSS THE STREET, THE WATSONS, AND ALSO THE GINS, WHICH ARE NEXT TO THIS.

AND COMMISSIONER HINES HAD BROUGHT THAT UP, THAT HE THOUGHT IT WAS ACROSS FROM JOE TO HIM.

SO HE WAS, HE WAS PRETTY CLOSE TO BEING CORRECT.

IT'S ACTUALLY ACROSS FROM THE JT WATSON, THE RING, A WALTZ PROPERTY.

THEY NOT ONLY HAVE SAID THAT THEY DID SUPPORT IT, BUT THEY THOUGHT IT WAS VERY FOR THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK, MR. HOLMES.

I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MAY 2ND BY COMMISSIONER STYLES.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL OPPOSED PASSES SIX TO ONE COMMISSIONER HINES.

UH, MR. MAY, IF BEFORE YOU CLOSE THE MEETING, IF VOTED AGAINST YOU.

NO, NO, THEY JUST NEED TO LISTEN TO LAST.

LAST TIME IS AUDIO THEY'LL KNOW I VOTED AGAIN.

IF I MAY.

BEFORE WE CLOSE, I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONER ROSS FOR HER SERVICE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSIONER, WISH YOU LUCK AS YOU GO FORWARD, SERVING THE COMMUNITY.