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[1. Open Meeting.]
THURSDAY, JUNE 17TH, AND THE TIME IS 5:33 PM.AND THIS IS THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL.
[2. Roll Call.]
CARTER, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCILMAN FROM THE ITALIAN PARKER HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER IN THAT SPONSOR HERE.COUNCIL MEMBER, JASON SHAW COUNCIL MEMBER OF CHRIS DORNAN COUNCIL MEMBER, BECKY ROSS HERE, MAYO CHRISTINE SAID OF COURSE HERE.
ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A QUORUM AND THE CITY IS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS.
[3. Workshop to discuss a proposed MUD on the Sullivan Tract located to the west of Bagdad Road and north of the Leander 61 Subdivision and Greatwood Subdivision.]
WE'RE NOW GOING TO CONVENE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS A PROPOSED MUD OR SULLIVAN TRACK LOCATED TO THE WEST OF BAGHDAD ROAD AND NORTH OF THE LEANDER 61 SUBDIVISION AND GREAT WITH SUBDIVISION PLANNING DIRECTOR.GRIFFIN, CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW? SORRY.
AM I NOT SAY THAT? IT'S YOU SO WELCOME.
SO WE HAVE, FOUR-STAR HERE TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT THEIR PROPOSAL FOR A MUD.
UM, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE TIME FOR US.
UH, I'M JOHN MAYBERRY AND THE DIVISION PRESIDENT OF FOUR-STAR WHERE, UH, A LOT DEVELOPER MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY BUILDER IN TEXAS AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
UM, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS WORKSHOP.
WE ARE, UM, WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY BACK IN JANUARY AND, UM, STARTED DOING SOME WORK ON CONCEPTS, IDEAS, VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, WE'VE MET WITH STAFF, WE'VE HAD SOME PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS.
WE'VE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY, WE'VE GOTTEN, UH, THEIR FEEDBACK.
AND THEN THIS IS KIND OF THE NEXT STEP IN COLLECTING FEEDBACK.
SO AS WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY, WE'RE NOT COMING WITH ANY SORT OF DEFINITIVE PLAN.
WE'VE GOT SOME IDEAS, UH, SOME INTENTIONS, BUT THE ONLY WAY THIS IS REALLY GONNA WORK IS IF WE TAKE EVERYBODY'S FEEDBACK AND HEAR WHAT YOU GUYS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
UH, LIKE I SAID, WE HAD A REALLY GOOD MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
AND SO, UM, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AND I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THIS BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS.
UM, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON STAR FOR A LONG TIME.
WE'VE BEEN BASED IN TEXAS WHERE TEXAS A LOT DEVELOPER, WE'RE NOT A HOME BUILDER.
UM, WE GO OUT AND PUT IN STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE PARKS, AMENITY CENTERS.
UM, WE'VE GOT A BIG GLOBAL TEAM HERE IN AUSTIN.
UH, WE'VE GOT OFFICES IN SAN ANTONIO, DALLAS AND HOUSTON AS WELL.
UM, WE, UH, HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING IN THE AUSTIN AREA, UM, WILLIAMSON COUNTY FOR DECADES.
AND SO WE'RE NOT NEW TO THE AREA.
UH, WE DO SMALL COMMUNITIES, LARGE COMMUNITIES, BUT THE GENERAL, UH, SENSE OF WHAT WE DO IS MASTERPLAN MIXTURE OF HOUSING, PRODUCT MIXTURE OF LOT PRODUCT, UH, LOTS OF PARTS, IT'S HIGHLY AMENITIZED.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR PROGRAM.
UM, I THINK WHAT A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS ARE AFRAID OF, A LOT OF NEIGHBORS ARE AFRAID OF IS KIND OF THE GRID OUT, WHAT WE CALL RAKIM AND STACK THEM, UM, BUILD OUR APPROACH TO A SUBDIVISION.
AND SO WE'RE MUCH LARGER PARCELS WITH, UM, UH, HIGHLY AMENITIZED KIND OF, UM, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE LOCATED.
I, UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NOT FAMILIAR, IT'S RIGHT OFF OF BAGHDAD ROAD, WESTERN BOUNDARY IS FUTURE LAKELINE.
UH, BAGHDAD'S THE EASTERN BOUNDARY WITH HIGHLIGHTED TWO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
AND THIS IS WHEN WE, WE WENT AND MET WITH THE FOLKS THAT WE NOTICED THAT, UH, PROBABLY PROPERTY WITHIN 500 FEET.
A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS LIVED IN WIND RANCH AND REDWOODS OF STATES.
AND SO WE HAD, UH, WE HAD OUR MEETING AT THE MASON HOMESTEAD.
UM, THOSE MEETINGS CAN ALWAYS BE PRETTY FRAUGHT AND I THINK PEOPLE CAME WITH A LOT OF CONCERNS.
SO WE SPENT THE FIRST 30 MINUTES REALLY FIELDING.
UM, A LOT OF WORRY QUESTIONS IS WHAT I WOULD CALL THEM.
AND IF I KIND OF HAD TO BOIL IT DOWN TO THREE THINGS, I THINK IT'S THREE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS TALKED, OH, YOU'RE A LOT ABOUT IS THIS, UM, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, DENSITY, TRAFFIC AND UTILITIES.
AND, UH, WE, LIKE I SAID, WE SPENT PROBABLY THE FIRST 30 MINUTES OF THAT MEETING, JUST HEARING THEIR CONCERNS.
AND AS WE KIND OF WALKED THROUGH WHO WE WERE AND WHAT WE DO, UM, I THINK WE STARTED TO PRESENT SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO REALLY BENEFIT FROM WHAT, ONE OF OUR POTENTIAL VISION.
SO, UM, ALL IN ALL A GOOD MEETING, WE'VE SET UP A LINE OF COMMUNICATION VIA EMAIL AND PHONE, UH, WHERE THEY CAN REACH OUT TO US.
AND WE MET IN PERSON, BUT WE ALSO, UM, SENT OUT A LINK SO THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE COULD WATCH IT ONLINE.
AT LEAST 50 PEOPLE WERE PRESENT.
UH, AND WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME NEIGHBORS SPEAK UP IN SUPPORT OF US.
SO, UH, ALL IN ALL, WE CAME OUT THINKING IT WAS PRETTY PERFECT, UH, THAT'S BACKWARDS.
SO HERE'S, HERE'S A VERY ROUGH CONCEPT PLAN AND IT'S ROUGH ON PURPOSE.
IT'S ROUGH BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DECIDED, BUT WE HAVE PRESENTED SOME THINGS HERE
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THAT I THINK ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.IF YOU LOOK AT THE PURPLE PERIMETER THAT BORDERS THE SOUTHERN AND KIND OF THE MIDDLE RIGHT THERE, RIGHT ALONG THE WAY, RANCH, WE JUST LAID IN THESE FOUR LARGE LOT DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT WAS WE'D LIKE TO EXACTLY MIRROR YOUR LOT LINES ALONG THIS PERIMETER.
THAT WAS SOMETHING I THINK THEY WERE KIND OF SURPRISED TO HEAR, BUT THAT'S NOT INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE DO.
SO YOU SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT COLOR, UH, DESIGNATIONS HERE IN EACH OF THOSE COLOR DESIGNATIONS REPRESENTS A DIFFERENT KIND OF HOUSING PRODUCT.
SO WE'RE RANGING FROM LARGE ESTATE, LOTS TO 70 FOOT, LOTS TO SIXTIES TO FIFTIES.
AND THEN THAT ONE SECTION IN RED, I BELIEVE I'VE GOT THIS RIGHT, HAS ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN ANNEXED BY THE CITY AND IS LABELED ON THE COMP PLAN, UM, IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE'VE DESIGNATED IT ACCORDINGLY.
I THINK THE COMP PLAN MIGHT'VE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT AND SO WE'LL ACCOMMODATE WHATEVER THERE, BUT THAT BAGHDAD CORRIDOR HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE CITY, I THINK IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO ALL THAT TO SAY, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND KIND OF THINK THROUGH WHAT IT FEELS LIKE, BUT THIS IS BY NO MEANS SOMETHING DEFINITIVE WE'RE PRESENTING.
WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT THERE'S A MIX OF PRODUCT.
THE OTHER THING THAT YOU MIGHT NOTICE IS THAT, AND IT'S NOT REAL CLEARLY DELINEATED HERE.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE A BETTER VERSION, BUT OUR MAIN ROAD, THAT'S GOING TO RUN THROUGH THIS, THAT WE CONNECT BAGHDAD TO LAKELINE, UH, RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF OUR PROPERTY.
IT DOESN'T RUN THROUGH WHAT RANCH OR GREAT WOODS.
AND THAT WAS VERY INTENTIONAL.
I THINK THAT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE WITH THOSE NEIGHBORS PREVIOUSLY, UM, THAT TRAFFIC WOULD BE ROUTING THROUGH THEIR COMMUNITIES.
AND SO WE'RE REALLY SENSITIVE TO THAT.
NOW THAT TAKES UP USABLE AREA FOR US, DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.
IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE BOULEVARD, UM, THAT ROUTES AROUND PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT IMMENSE AMOUNTS OF TRAFFIC GOING PAST THEIR NICE HOUSES.
SO, UM, THAT'S PART OF THE PLAN AS WELL.
WE HAVE A INFRASTRUCTURE EXHIBIT AND WHAT WE WANT TO ILLUSTRATE HERE IS THAT THERE'S NO SEWER IN THIS AREA.
AND SO TO GET SEWER TO THIS AREA, WE'VE GOT TO RUN, UH, OVER TWO MILES OF FORCE MAIN AND GRAVITY MAIN FROM OUR FRONT DOOR DOWN TO DIVINE LAKES.
THERE'S ALSO LIFT STATION IN THERE.
UM, I THINK THERE'S AN EIGHT INCH LINE THAT GOES UP TO MOCKINGBIRD PARK, WHICH IS THE ASHTON WOODS DEAL.
THAT'S THAT YOU SEE KIND OF THAT IT'S MIDWAY ALONG THE WAY, BUT THAT'S NOT ENOUGH CAPACITY TO RUN SEWER UP THAT SEWER SHED.
UM, SO I DO THAT JUST TO ILLUSTRATE THAT IF WE DO KIND OF THIS MIXED USE CONCEPT PLAN, UM, THAT WOULD NEED AND REQUIRE SEWER, THAT'S THE KIND OF SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE WE'D BE EXTENDED.
UH, THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THAT IS IT EXPANDS THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL, AND IT'S DONE AT OUR COST.
UM, SO I'M JUST WANTING TO ILLUSTRATE THAT THIS IS OUR PARKS PLAN.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS CONCEPT, BUT I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO TWO DIFFERENT AMENITIES STRUCTURES WE'VE GOT.
AND THIS PARCEL DOWN HERE WE'VE DESIGNATED AS, AS A FULL-ON CITY PARK.
UM, THE AMENITY WOULD BE A PRIVATE AMENITY.
BOTH THOSE AMENITIES WILL BE PRIVATE AMENITIES THAT'S PAID FOR BY THE HOA.
UM, BUT THIS, THIS PARKLAND AREA THAT WE'VE SHOWN HERE, UM, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT THAT IT REPRESENTS, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY EXCEEDS WHAT'S REQUIRED, UH, BY THE CITY CODE.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE TYPE OF AMENITY CENTERS THAT WE DO ACROSS THE STATE, ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
UM, WE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT AND DESIGN, UM, AND MONEY INTO THE AMENITY CENTERS IN OUR COMMUNITIES, UM, AND HAVE A GREAT TEAM OF FOLKS THAT ARE KIND OF THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STAGE OF AMENITIES IS FOR RESIDENTS.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE DAYS OF THE GOLF COURSE AND, UH, THAT SORT OF THING ARE KIND OF GONE BY THE WAYSIDE FOR A LOT OF, UM, BUT THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE QUALITY OF THE AMENITY PACKAGE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO, UH, REFERRING BACK TO THE SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW THAT ONE OF THE COMMON WAYS FOR DEVELOPERS TO, UH, SUSTAIN THE IMPACT OF THAT KIND OF OFFSITE INFRASTRUCTURE IS, UH, MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS.
AND THEY ALL HAVE A COUPLE IN THE CITY.
UM, THEY'RE ALL OVER HOUSTON, THERE'S SOME OF THEM IN AUSTIN.
UM, AND THIS IS, THIS IS ONE WAY THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH THE IDEA OF BRINGING SEWER, THAT GREAT DISTANCE.
UM, AND SO FOR THOSE OF YOU, AND I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS EITHER BECAUSE EVERYBODY MAY BE REALLY FAMILIAR WITH MUDS, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT, UM, DOESN'T CAUSE ANY INCURSION ON THE CITY'S TAXES.
IT'S A TAX THAT'S LEVIED ON TOP OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TAXES AND THE COUNTY TAXES, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, UH, ON YOUR TAX BILL EVERY YEAR.
UM, AND SO THIS IS, THIS IS HOW IF YOU GOT TO BUILD A TREATMENT PLAN, IF IT GOES, IS GONNA BUILD A TREATMENT PLANT COSTS $8 MILLION, OR YOU GOTTA RUN FINALLY, AND I WAS OFFSITE SEWER, UM, THEY'RE KIND OF
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COST PROHIBITIVE.IT'S A WAY FOR THE CITY TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO, TO MAKE THAT WORK.
UM, SO THAT'S ONE IDEA THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THAT OFFSITE SEWER, WHICH WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THIS CONCEPT.
UM, WE, WE PUT SOME BACKGROUND ON WHAT MUDS ARE, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO REFER TO THAT, THAT'S FINE.
UM, I WILL SAY IT'S FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO THIS THEY'RE PIDS, SO I'M SURE Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH PEDS.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE A BIG FAN OF.
I ALSO THINK IT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF, UM, I DON'T WANT TO BESMIRCH OUR COMPETITION, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S DEVELOPERS THAT NEED THE FUNDING UPFRONT.
AND SO THAT THEY ASSESS THE PROPERTY LONG BEFORE THEY EVER STARTED PUT HOMES ON THE GROUND.
THE MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT IS KIND OF A TRIED AND TRUE METHOD FOR DEVELOPERS THAT ARE GOING TO GO FRONT THE COST AND YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, WHEN THE AVS ACTUALLY ON THE GROUND, YOU CAN SEE THE PRODUCT THAT'S WHEN THE, THE, UH, REIMBURSEMENTS COME IN.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO PUT SOME NEXT STEPS UP THERE.
IT WAS COLLECT EVERYBODY'S FEEDBACK.
AND THEN ONCE WE HAD THAT FEEDBACK, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, HOPEFULLY PRESENT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE GOT SOME BUY-IN ON RELATIVE TO ZONING CONCEPT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLAT AND, UM, UH, SUBMIT FOR CDS CONSENT TO A MUD SO THAT I DON'T SHUT UP.
UM, THAT WAS A BUNCH OF MONOLOGUE.
DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT, BUT OPEN TO QUESTIONS.
SO I GOT, I GOT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT BEFOREHAND AND JUST COMING FROM THIS INDUSTRY AS WELL TOO.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF 15 MINUTES IS GOING TO DO THIS JUSTICE JUST TO BE, TO BE HONEST, CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF HERE.
UM, BUT, UM, WITH THE DIRECTION THAT MY CONCERN IS WITH THE DIRECTION THAT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO HEAR ME IN THIS EITHER MIC, BUT, UM, WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE, THAT THE COMP PLAN IS GOING IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPMENT UP THERE THAT DIDN'T EXTEND THE WASTEWATER LINE BECAUSE THERE WERE LARGE LOTS THAT WERE ACRE PLUS, RIGHT.
IS THAT'S WHAT WRITTEN RANCH IS.
AND THAT'S WHAT, UM, GREAT WOODS IS.
UM, MY WORRY IS THE DENSITY IN THIS AREA, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS A CITY, AS A WHOLE IS MORE DENSE PROJECTS.
UM, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF LEANDER THAT'S RIGHT ON THE CUSP OF WHERE LIBERTY HILL WAS AT AS WELL, TOO.
AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE, THEY ALSO WOULD MIRROR THAT, UM, AS FAR AS WHAT'S, WHAT'S COMING FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH.
I JUST, WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT RIGHT BEFORE, AND WE CAN HAVE MANY MORE CONVERSATIONS, BUT I JUST WANT HIM TO LEAD OUT THERE WITH THAT, WITH THAT, THAT I WOULD WANT TO BE CHECKING WITH, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT OUR COMP PLAN IS AND WHAT, WHAT WOULD BEST FIT THERE HAD INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE.
AND, UM, LIKE IN MY, LIKE, IT WOULD HAVE MADE PERFECT SENSE FOR THAT SAME DEVELOPER TO DEVELOP SOME OF THE OTHER ONES TO EXTEND THEIR PROJECT THROUGH THOSE AREAS.
UM, BECAUSE THAT'S, IT'S NOT ALREADY THERE.
AND, UM, MY CONCERN IS THE DENSITY HERE.
UM, I'M SURE THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE DEFINITELY THE TOP THREE THAT A NEIGHBOR WOULD GIVE YOU.
AND WE WERE RUNNING FOR OFFICE WINDOWS WHEN THE OTHER PROJECT THAT WAS ANOTHER MORE DENSE PROJECT WAS TO THE WEST OF, UH, OF GREG WOODS.
AND, AND, UH, YOU ARE VOICING THE SAME CONCERN THAT SHE DID.
UM, I DO THINK WE ALLAYED SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS.
THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY YOUR CONCERNS.
I ALSO THINK THERE'S A, WHEN WE LAY THIS OUT IN MORE DETAIL, UM, I THINK WE CAN PRESENT TO YOU.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF LOCK PRODUCTS THERE IS THERE A LARGE LIVE PRODUCT? UM, I THINK SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HELP YOU DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S AN ISSUE OR NOT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE SHOWN YOU ENOUGH OR MAYBE WE HAVE, UH, TO KNOW THAT IT'S ALREADY THE CONCERN, BUT WE KNOW IT'S, I'LL LET EVERYBODY ELSE TALK JUST CAUSE I'M ONE OF SEVEN, BUT I HAVE DEFINITELY THINGS.
COULD YOU GO BACK TO THAT CONCEPT? I KNOW THIS IS LIKE A ROUGH FOR Y'ALL STILL, BUT SINCE THE, UH, SINCE THE RED IS 40 FOOT LOTS AND THE ORANGE IS 50 FOOT LOTS, DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WOULD BE ON EITHER THE 40, HOW MANY 40 FOOT OR, AND HOW MANY 50 FOOT LOTS ABOUT, YEAH, I'D LOVE TO HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION AND MAYBE WE CAN DO IT SOME OTHER TIME AND MAYBE YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT THAT 40 FOOT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BECOME, BECAUSE I THINK WE KIND OF GOT TRIANGULATED INTO THAT BASED ON THE EXISTING OR OLD COMP PLAN.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A LOT COUNT FOR YOU SPECIFICALLY.
WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY MARRIED TO DOING FORTIES RIGHT THERE ON BAGHDAD.
UM, I THINK I COULD GIVE YOU A ROUGH RANGE OF LOTS FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND WE'LL CALL THAT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 600, 900.
SO, BUT THAT REALLY KIND OF DEPENDS ON MANY, MANY THINGS.
WHAT ARE THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR BUYERS WHEN YOU HAVE A MONTH?
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UM, I KNOW THERE'S REALLY STRICT ONES FOR A PID, UM, CAUSE THE PID DOESN'T SHOW UP ON YOUR TAX.WELL THERE'S YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ALWAYS ADHERE TO THEM.
UH WE'VE WE'VE ACTUALLY ENDED UP WITH SOME FUNDS WHETHER WE WANTED TO OR NOT.
AND WE HAVE TO JUST DISCLOSE, DISCLOSE, DISCLOSE.
UM, THE GOOD THING ABOUT THE MUD IS IT SHOWS UP ON THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT ON YOUR TAX, UH, UH, YOUR PROPERTY TAXES, BUT I DON'T KNOW, MICHAEL, IF YOU DON'T OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD WITH THIS SCHOOL, THERE IS, BUT IT CAN BE ON YOUR TAXES.
IT'LL BE ON RECORD, RIGHT? YES.
THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN ON PIDS IN TOWN IS THAT PEOPLE WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, PUTTING THEIR MONEY DOWN AND GETTING THE HOUSE BILL AND FIND OUT AT CLOSING THAT THEY'RE IN A PID.
AND AT THAT POINT THEY'RE STUCK.
THEY CAN'T GET ANY OF THEIR MONEY BACK.
UM, AND WE WOULD REALLY WANT TO AVOID A SITUATION LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, PERHAPS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF I'D LIKE TO KNOW.
UM, IF OTHER CITIES AROUND US ARE ACCEPTING MONTHS RECENTLY AND, UM, WHAT THE NOTIFICATIONS WOULD BE TOWARDS BUYERS.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ONE MUD IN TOWN AND THEY RAN A PURPLE PIPE PROGRAM.
I WOULD BE, UM, MORE INCLINED TO ACCEPT A MUD IF YOU WERE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD SEVERELY REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF STRAIN ON OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
I THINK THAT'S, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT.
UM, WE'VE HEARD THE SAME ISSUES WITH BIDS.
UM, AND I THINK THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS THAT MUDS ARE A MUCH BETTER DISCLOSURE SITUATION.
AND, AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE WHEN THE MORTGAGE COMPANY IS QUALIFYING PEOPLE, UH, AND THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PET ASSESSMENT TOO.
THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT THE MORTGAGE COMPANY IS, BUT THE, THE PROPERTY TAX THING IS ALWAYS A BIG PART OF THAT PROCESS.
AND SO THEY LOOK AT IT RIGHT THERE ON THE FRONT END.
UM, SO IT SHOULDN'T BE A SURPRISE.
UM, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT.
THANK YOU, ANYBODY ELSE? UM, SO THAT'S IT THEN, RIGHT? YOU GUYS ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON THIS.
I CAN BE LIKE, WELL, WAIT, WE ALREADY BOUGHT IT SO WELL, BUT I MEAN, EVEN, EVEN IN TWEAKING PLANS AND PUTTING FORTH PLANS AND WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO RUN SOMETHING OR WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW IN CITY MUD AND ALL THOSE THINGS TOO, RIGHT? LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY.
LIKE, WOULD YOU STILL DO THE PROJECT? YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU STILL BE INTERESTED IN DOING THE PROJECT? IF WE SAID WE WOULDN'T DO THE MUD AND YOU GOT TO CARRY THE COST ALL BY YOURSELF.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE NUMBERS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO RUN.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO SAY IS WHAT DOES IT DO TO OUR ECONOMICS? IF WE'RE GOING TO GO SPEND $5 MILLION.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND NOT SEE ANYBODY COME BACK.
UH, THAT WOULD BE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, NOT HAVING ANY GUARANTEE THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
IT'S MORE OF JUST A, IT'S A COMMON PUBLIC, PRIVATE PRACTICE.
AND, UH, WE'D BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T PRESENT IT TO YOU GUYS.
CAUSE I THINK IT'S, IT CAN BENEFIT EVERYBODY.
I THINK IF, IF INFRASTRUCTURE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO GET TO THAT PART OF THE WORLD, AND, AND MAYBE YOU DON'T, MAYBE THAT'S PART OF THE CALCULATION ON THE CITY SIDE, UM, TO HAVE A DEVELOPER DO IT ON THEIR DIME, YOU KNOW, IS, IS BETTER THAN NOT ON THEIR DIME.
IT'S UP FRONT, BUT IT'S NOT ON THE DEVELOPERS DIME IT'S ON THE HOMEOWNERS.
IT'S ALSO NOT ON THE CITY'S DIME THOUGH.
IT'S YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS? THE ONLY THING I'LL MENTION IS YOU MENTIONED THE HOUSTON AREA AND SOME OF THE SUBURBS AROUND HOUSTON, AND THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, A DOZEN BUDS, WHICH YOU END UP WITH, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, PEOPLE MOVE IN AND THEY CLOSE WHAT FEELS LIKE A LITTLE BIT INEQUITABLE SITUATION.
CAUSE YOU GO NEIGHBORHOOD TO NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT TAX TOTAL TAX RATE, UH, SOME HAVE IN CITY MUDS WITH NO DISCOUNT GETTING A DEVELOPER DEAL.
THEY HAVE SOME HOW TO DISCOUNT.
SO THE OTHER ISSUE, I THINK WE WOULD SUGGEST AS STAFF IS LOOKING AT THE OVERALL WATER USAGE AND THE TIMING, AND ALSO ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD BE DONE PURPLE PIPES, A GREAT ONE IF IT'S PROXIMITY TO THE, UH, TO THE WATER PLANT, UH, TO THE WASTEWATER PLANT.
BUT THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE THE, THE GENERAL LANDSCAPING AND HOA LANDSCAPING.
AND I DON'T WANT TO JUMP INTO ANYTHING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT LATER, BUT ONCE YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS, I THINK YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH EACH THING THAT COMES, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, IS PROLIFERATION OF NUMEROUS SPECIAL DISTRICTS, A PERFECT SCENARIO INSTEAD OF STARTING IN THE MIDDLE AND BUILDING OUT.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CRAZY TO START IN THE MIDDLE AND BUILD OUT WITH EXISTING CITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND IN A PERFECT PLACE.
SO THAT'S ALL UNLESS ROBIN HAS OR ENGINEERING OR SOMETHING TO SAY, I THINK THAT'S FAIR AND TRUTH BE TOLD.
UM, WE WOULD PREFER TO TIE INTO CITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
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I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR PERFECT SCENARIO.AND AS YOU GUYS KNOW THIS, THIS STATE AND THIS CITY AND IS GROWING AT SUCH A PACE THAT, THAT, UH, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KEEP UP AND I, I KNOW YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO KEEP UP TO AND, UM, SO THAT, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S THE REALITY AND WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES OUT THERE DOING IT, BUT, UM, IT'S A LOT OF GROWTH.
AND IF Y'ALL WERE LOBBYING FOR ROADWAY, IMPACT FEES ON TOP OF THAT AS A TEST CASE, THAT'D BE WONDERFUL.
WELL, WE STILL HAVE ABOUT SEVEN MINUTES UNTIL OUR, UM, ROUND TABLE STARTS AND IT'S JUST THE CONVENIENCE.
COULD THEY, EVERYBODY TAKE A BREAK? YEAH, I JUST, I HAVE, I WOULD USE YOUR TIME.
YEAH, I HAVE ONE MORE THING I WANTED TO ADD.
UH, WE JUST DID SOME ANALYSIS ON SOME OF THE IN-CITY MODES AND, AND PALMIERI ATTRIBUTES OR A COUPLE OF THEM.
SO WE LOOKED AT THEIR TAX RATE AND WE LOOKED AT OUR TAX RATE.
AND SO RIGHT NOW I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE BOTH AROUND TWO 90 IS THEIR TAX RATE.
OUR EXISTING TAX RATE IS $2 AND 36 CENTS.
AND SO I THINK WHAT WE WOULD REPRESENT TO YOU GUYS IS THAT OUR OBJECTIVE WOULD BE TO BE AT, OR BELOW WHERE THEY ARE WITHIN CITY MUD.
UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THANK YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S NO REAL, UM, OTHER THAN WHAT THE CITY WOULD SAY OR WHAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD LET THE MARKET TELL THEM, YOU COULD GO PURSUE WHATEVER RIDICULOUS TAX RATES YOU WANT TO.
THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A GOOD IDEA.
AND WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT TO COMPETE WITH THESE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS, WE'VE GOT TO QUALIFY BUYERS.
UM, SO I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, I WOULD PUT THAT IN YOUR MINDS THAT WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING BEYOND WHAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE AND WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHED AND THE ONLY OTHER THING.
AND I NOTICED SINCE WE'RE SO NEW AND THE MUD PIT WORLD, BUT IT'S SOME OF THE MORE MATURE CITIES WHERE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE MUDS.
I THINK THE ISSUE THAT WILL INVARIABLY COME UP IS AS THEY REACHED THE MATURITY, YOU THINK THE 30 YEARS IS UP.
IF THEY'RE, I'VE SEEN SOME TURNAROUND AND BOARDS ISSUE, NEW DEBT, AND THEN THE HOMEOWNERS THINK, HEY, THIS IS GOING TO END.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE BUDD TAXES TO PAY.
SO THAT'D BE ANOTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT ANY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS WELL.
AND I THINK A LOT OF THAT CAN BE BAKED INTO THAT AND WE HAVEN'T HIRED A FINANCIAL ADVISOR THAT, THAT RUNS THOSE NUMBERS AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED DRAFTING OR THINKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WHY WOULD WE DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING TALKED TO YOU? SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S HEAVILY REGULATED.
YOU CAN'T GET AWAY WITH SHENANIGANS.
AND, UH, IF OF ALL THE DISTRICT STRUCTURES, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE MUD IS KIND OF THE TRIED AND TRUE.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION BECAUSE WE TRAFFIC IN A LOT OF THEM, UM, KIND OF THE MOST DOWN THE FAIRWAY, FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE DISTRICT STRUCTURE, UM, FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T NEED TO GET ALL THAT MONEY UP FROM.
ANYBODY WHO IS SPEAKING AT THE TOWN HALL, UM, PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD IN THE LOBBY AND PRESENT THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY SO THAT I KNOW TO CALL ON YOU.
SHOULD WE JUST TAKE A BREAK UNTIL SIX? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL RECONVENE THE SIX O'CLOCK.
THE CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENING THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP UP NEXT.
[4. The City Council will hold a Town Hall discussion to receive citizen input on topics that are under the purview of the City Council. [No action will be taken. Items posted for council action on the current agenda will be discussed during the regular meeting.]]
NEXT IS A TOWN HALL DISCUSSION TO RECEIVE CITIZEN INPUT ON TOPICS THAT ARE UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY COUNCIL.OUR FIRST QUESTION COMES FROM ANDREW, MATT LYNCH.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, UM, MY CONCERNS REGARDING CAP METRO.
UM, I KNOW IT'S A HOT TOPIC FOR CITY COUNCIL.
UM, I SAW RECENTLY THAT, UM, THAT BEFORE HAS TERMINATED MAYOR HILL, UM, PREVIOUS MAYOR HILL, UM, MADE A MOTION TO, TO START THE PROCESS, TO PUT, UH, KEEPING OR WITHDRAWING FROM CAP METRO SERVICES ONTO THE BALLOT.
UM, AND SO I'M, I'M, I'M JUST CONCERNED, UM, ABOUT THE RENEWED EFFORT TO GET RID OF OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
I WAS HERE IN 2019 WHENEVER COUNCIL CONSIDERED, UH, REMOVING OUR, OUR, OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SERVICES.
UM, AND I THINK THEY'RE VITAL.
IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY I'VE BEEN READING THROUGH THIS, THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT, THAT Y'ALL JUST ESTABLISHED, UM, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS, IT SEEMS LIKE THE CITY HAS A LOT OF, OF, OF DEVELOPMENTS COMING UP, LIKE SPECIFICALLY WITH THE NORTHLINE PROJECT AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT HAVE BEEN KIND OF CENTERED AROUND BEING BY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE LANDERS STATION AND THE CAP METRO SERVICES.
SO IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SHOOT YOURSELF AT THE KNEES AND WITHDRAW FROM THOSE SERVICES, RIGHT, AS YOU'RE BEGINNING TO DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, THESE PLANS.
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CONCERNING FOR, FOR THOSE OF US LIKE MYSELF, WHO, WHO RELY ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S TOO MUCH, THERE'S TOO MUCH LISTENING TO FOLKS WHO MAYBE HAVEN'T HAD TO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION A DAY IN THEIR LIFE.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S REALLY VITAL FOR PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN A CITY LIKE LANDER WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, ZONING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AREN'T, AREN'T BUILT AROUND ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, CITY PLANNING IS, IS DONE AROUND CARS AND ROADS SPECIFICALLY.
SO FOR THOSE OF US WHO DON'T HAVE CARS, YOU KNOW, SERVICES LIKE CAT METRO, LIKE THE PICKUP SERVICE, WHICH HAS BEEN GREAT, UM, ARE REALLY VITAL.
I MEAN, FOR, FOR MYSELF, I USE THE CAP METRO SERVICES FOR, FOR WORK FOR SCHOOL.
UM, I WENT TO THE ACC SAN GABRIEL CAMPUS AND WOULD TAKE THE TRAIN IN BETWEEN CLASSES FROM THE ST GABRIEL CAMPUS AND THE HIGHLAND CAMPUS.
UM, AND IN 2019 THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO SHOWED UP AND DOZENS OF WHOM WERE DISABLED OR FAMILIES WITH DISABLED FAMILY MEMBERS WHO WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE RELY ON THESE CAP METRO SERVICES, UM, TO GET AROUND, TO GO TO WORK, TO LIVE OUR LIVES.
AND WE LIVE IN LEANDER BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IS AN ATTRACTIVE PLACE TO LIVE BECAUSE OF THESE SERVICES.
UM, I'M JUST, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT, ABOUT EFFORTS TO GET RID OF THAT AGAIN.
UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S, THERE'S OFTEN LIKE THE FISCAL CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT LANDER IS GETTING A GOOD DEAL AND I GET THAT.
UM, BUT I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, WITHDRAWING COMPLETELY FROM AND MORE SERVICES IS THE ANSWER.
SO ANDREW, DID YOU WATCH OUR LAST NAME WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT KEVIN AND TRAMADOL? UNFORTUNATELY, I DIDN'T GET TO, I WAS WORKING WITH, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, JUST AN ALTERNATIVE, I THINK RIGHT NOW I'M JUST GONNA USE THE TERM BRAND.
LIKE IF, IF YOU NEED A NEW CAR AND YOU'VE ALWAYS DRIVEN A CHEVY, BUT YOU NEED TO DRIVE A FORD OR WHATEVER.
W A LOT OF PEOPLE MARRIED TO THE BRAND AND THE CONCEPT OF CAP METRO.
SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS ISSUES WITH PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
AND IF WE CAN GET SERVICES FOR CUSTOMERS THAT THEY NEED THAT FOR RESIDENTS THAT THEY NEED AND PAY LESS FOR IT, IT JUST MAKES GOOD SENSE TO DO THAT IN MY OPINION.
BUT THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO TRUST THE VOTERS IF IT'S TURNED OVER FOR THAT.
SO THAT WAS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, UM, THAT, THAT YOU MISSED, UM, THAT THERE'S NOT A, THIS OR THAT.
GET OUT OF THIS, BUT THEN WE GET, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
SO THAT DISCUSSION, UM, ENCOMPASSED A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED THAT WE WANT TO PRESENT BEFORE THAT GOES TO A VOTE.
SO I HOPE THAT HELPS IT'S THERE'S THERE SEEMS TO BE A PERCEPTION THAT WE JUST WANT TO GET OUT OF CAP METRO.
NO, WE DON'T WANT TO PAY SO MUCH FOR IT.
SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS.
IF THIS, IF WE PAID HALF OF WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO PAY OR WHAT WE DON'T REALIZE, I SHOULDN'T SAY WHAT WE PAY, WHAT WE DON'T REALIZE IN SALES TAXES, IF IT WAS HALF OF WHAT IT IS, WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT EVEN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
SO A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT SAY, WHY DON'T WE HAVE THIS? WHY DOES IT, WHY DOES CEDAR PARK GET THIS? AND LEANDRA CAN'T GET THAT BECAUSE OF CAP.
METRO IS THEY HAVE THEIR 4 84 B FUNDS AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
SO THAT'S A LOT OF, UM, A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE INCORPORATED.
IT'S, THAT'S A VERY LIMITED PERSPECTIVE AND THAT YOU TAKE IT AWAY, BUT NOT GIVE SOMETHING ELSE.
WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY.
DO YOU, DO YOU GUYS HAVE AN IDEA? THAT'S THAT'S MY I'M SAYING WE, I DON'T MEAN YOU AT LEAST HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION WOULD COME FROM.
IF IT WASN'T HERE, METRO, THAT'S WHAT STAFF IS GOING TO PRESENT US WITH.
SOME, SOME IDEAS I WANT TO, I WANT TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS BACK IN 2019 METAGENE ITEMS, GET THE AGENDA.
AND ALL THOSE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE CAME OUT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WERE ASKING.
WE WEREN'T ASKING TO WITHDRAW FROM KEVIN METRO.
WHAT WE DID INITIALLY WAS WE SAID, HEY, WE WANT THE DATA.
WE WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST.
SO WE WENT TO COUNTY METRO, AND THEN WE WENT AND YOU KNOW WHAT? NOBODY COULD GIVE IT TO US.
METRO WAS JUST ALL OVER THE PLACE LIKE THEY ARE TODAY.
THEY'LL GIVE YOU DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
I MEAN, WHEREVER YOU ASK, IF YOU'RE FRIENDS WITH THEM, THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME, SOME NUMBER.
IF YOU'RE NOT, THEY'RE GIVEN NO NUMBER, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
AND SO WE WENT TO OUR LAWYER AND THE LAWYER WANTED TO OPEN IT AND CHECK.
SO WE WERE ALL THAT WE RAN THERE.
WASN'T A DAY ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
I DIDN'T SAY WE'RE GOING TO INVESTIGATE.
AND YOU HAD THE ACTUAL DATA BECAUSE THE CITIZENS OF LANDER DESERVE TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'RE PAYING AND HOW MUCH IT'S COSTING, HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST THEM TO GET OUT.
SO THAT'S ONE THING IT GOT PUT ON THE AGENDA.
AND APPARENTLY WE CALLED IT THE LANGUAGE IT HAD TO BE PUT ON THERE FOR REMOVAL, WITHDRAWAL FROM KAT, METRO, THEN ALL HELL BROKE, LOOSE.
EVERYBODY WAS OKAY, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY MY RIDE TO WORK.
JUST LIKE, I MEAN LIKE YOUR TRANSPORTATION, RIGHT? SO EVERYBODY'S EMOTIONS GOT INVOLVED WHEN ALL IT WAS WAS
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THE FACT FINDING MISSION.SO WE SAID, OKAY, WE DID THAT.
AND THEN CAN'T METRO SAY, WELL, WE'LL DO THIS, THIS AND THIS AND THIS.
AND WE SAT HERE AT THE TABLE AND WE SAID, WELL, WE NEED TO HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS BECAUSE OUR CITIZENS DESERVE TO HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS.
AND THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO, BECAUSE THERE IS NO DEAL.
I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR.
METRA JUST WRAPPED UP IN THE TRANSPORTATION CODE.
THE ONLY WAY FOR LEANDER TO GET MORE SERVICE, TO GET A LOWER COST OR ANYTHING IS TO TAKE IT, PUT IT ON THE BALLOT.
AND IF THEY DECIDE TO GET OUT, HERE'S WHERE THE NEXT PART START.
WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE LINED UP, HANDICAP.
PEOPLE, PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NEED ARE SENIORS.
WELL BY LAW, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR THEM.
SO WE GET OUT OF CAB, METRO BY LAW.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THEIR GETTING TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.
BUT THE SECOND THING IS FROM DAY ONE, WE'VE SAID FROM DAY ONE, AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY MEETINGS WE'VE HAD SCREAMING.
AT THIS POINT, WE SAID, WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE PLAN FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS? HOW CAN WE DO BETTER BY THE CITIZEN OF LAND? BUT EVERYBODY GETS THEIR EMOTIONS.
FACEBOOK GETS INVOLVED AND THEN YOU GET ALL THIS STUFF AND, AND WE CAN'T GET ANYWHERE.
WE'RE STUCK BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THAT LEGITIMATELY THAT YOU'RE BLINKING, ALL CHOY HE'LL WANT TO GET OUT OF CAMP.
THAT'S WHERE YOU EITHER PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AS YOU WERE GOING AWAY YET, OR I'M GOING TO DO IT.
I DID IT BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT IT.
AND I SAID THAT FROM DAY ONE, I'M TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT CANTON METRO.
AND HERE'S ANOTHER THING THE VOTERS DESERVE TO CITIZENS.
LANDER DESERVE TO MAKE A CHOICE, KNOWING THE SEVEN PEOPLE, WHETHER IT WAS THE OLD COUNSELOR, THIS COUNSELOR, OR COUNSELORS 10 YEARS FROM NOW, THE VOTERS GET TO DECIDE.
BUT THE THING IS WE CAN DO BETTER THAN CAT METRO.
WE, WE CAN DO BETTER WITH CAP.
METRO KENT, METRO WOULD DO BETTER.
THEY'RE SHOOTING THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT.
LIKE KATHERINE SAID, WE CAN'T DEVELOP BECAUSE TRUE HAVE A 7.7.
IF WE CAN DEVELOP AND GOING TO BE 20, 30, $40 MILLION, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM.
AND THAT'S GREAT FOR THE PEOPLE RUNNING, BUT EVERYBODY SUBSIDIZED IS KEEPING THE CITY FROM BEING ABLE TO GO UP.
SO WE HAVE HAD COUNTLESS EXHAUST ME DISCUSSIONS.
NOBODY WANTS YOU NOT TO HAVE A RIDE TO WHERE YOU ARE.
I'M SAYING, IF WE GOT TO THEM, I MEAN, THIS THAT'S JUST HIGHER LIMOUSINES AND GIVE PEOPLE, LAND THEIR RAJ FOR FREE ALL THE WAY THEY'RE BORED.
AND WE STILL CAN DO IT FOR ME.
IT WAS ALL THE CHEAPER, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF LOGISTICS BECAUSE IT'S A GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRACY.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A TANGLED MESS.
ANYTHING THAT HAS TO TOUCH GOVERNMENT IS A TANGLED MESS, BUT I BELIEVE WE CAN DO BETTER, BUT TRUST.
NOBODY'S TRYING TO TAKE AWAY ANYBODY'S TRANSPORTATION.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST NO MATTER WHAT ANYBODY SAYS OR HOW THEY SAY IT, HOW IT'S WRITTEN 1% IS 50%.
THAT MAY NOT SOUND LIKE GOOD MATH, BUT 1% IS 50%.
SO 50% OF WHAT WE COULD BE COLLECTING, WE SENT IT OUT METRO.
SO THAT'S A LOT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY SAY THEY'RE LOSING MONEY EVERY YEAR ON US, THEN WHY, WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO PROVIDE SERVICES? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
I MEAN, SORRY, YOU KEPT METRO.
UM, BUT WE KNOW, WE KNOW WE HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE THAT, UH, SENDING THE TRAFFIC AND, AND WATCH THE EMPTY TRAIN, GO BACK AND FORTH WHERE WE COULD HAVE THE BUS SERVICE GO DIRECTLY TO LIFELINE STATION AND NOTHING CHANGES.
YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE, THE, THE TRAIN GOES, SORRY, BY THE WAY, DON'T WANT TO PUT THIS OUT IN THERE YESTERDAY.
I'M SITTING AT 180 3 AND HE RAN AWAY AND I'M SITTING THERE AND I'M TALKING, I'VE GOT MINE, MY DAUGHTER WITH ME.
SO WE'RE HAVING A CHANCE TO TAKE, TO CATCH UP.
CAN WE JUST SIT THERE? AND YOUR DAD WOULD KIND OF SIT HERE FOR A WHILE AND I THINK, WAIT A MINUTE, HOW MANY GREEN LIGHTS ON THIS? NONE, THE TERRAIN WASN'T EVEN IT WASN'T ACTIVATING THE, THE, THE BARS AND THE TRAINING WAS JUST KIND OF CREEPING ALONG.
EXCEPT FOR THE FACT WE DON'T CONTROL THE LINES, RIGHT? SO MY POINT HERE IS EVERYBODY THINKING ABOUT TRAFFIC OR CITY COUNCIL NOT DOING THEM ON THE TRAFFIC.
WE CAN'T, WE DON'T OWN THE LIGHTS, CAT, METRO, AND TOD OWNS THOSE LIGHTS.
CAUSE IT'S NOT OUR, CAUSE IT'S NOT OUR PURVIEW.
I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT IF, IF THE CITY PULLS OUT OF IT WITHOUT AN IMMEDIATE PLAN TO, YOU KNOW, REENTER SOME KIND OF OTHER PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SERVICE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO SCREW PEOPLE OUT OF PLACES, THEY NEED TO BE IN JOBS.
SO, SO PART OF OUR, PART OF OUR REQUIREMENT HERE IS TO HAVE A PLAN AND TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION THERE.
SO THAT WAY THAT, THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
UM, NOBODY WANTS THAT AND WANTS TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR ON THAT.
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WANTS THAT, UM, WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE ALLOCATE AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS THAT, UM, THAT WE ALLOCATE FOR THE AMOUNT OF RIDERSHIP RIGHT NOW, LIKE NOT ONLY THE LIMOUSINE CONVERSATION AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, WE CAN LITERALLY BUY YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO RIDES THAT TRAIN A VERY, VERY, VERY NICE CAR EVERY SINGLE YEAR.RIGHT? AND SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THERE, THERE PROBABLY IS A GOOD TIME FOR THIS CITY.
THE CAP METRO SAYS THEY'RE LOSING MONEY ON IT.
UM, WE DEFINITELY ARE MISSING OUT ON OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO FIX CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF OUR CITY.
UM, AS WELL AS ATTRACT BUSINESSES HERE THAT OTHER CITIES ARE WINNING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO DO THOSE.
SO THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS WHERE, WHERE STUFF CAN GO.
BUT, UH, YOUR, YOUR SPECIFIC CONCERN IS THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR, YOUR, UM, TRANSPORTATION NEEDS.
AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A WAY TO, AT THE VERY, VERY, VERY MINIMUM GET PEOPLE FROM HERE TO AT LEAST THE LAKELINE STATION, WHICH IS THE NEXT PLACE IN ORDER FOR THEM IN THE INTERIM UNTIL WE FIGURE IT OUT.
SO THERE WILL BE A PLAN TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE RIDING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL WAS NOT TO LEAVE ANYBODY OUT RIGHT NOW.
I JUST WANT TO BE VERY, VERY, VERY CLEAR ON THAT.
I'LL TELL YOU THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE FENCE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE VERY GOOD ARGUMENTS ON BOTH SIDES.
UM, THE PLAN, I BELIEVE, SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN PLACE BEFORE THAT VOTE TOOK PLACE, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
UM, IF CAP METRO WAS A CITY DEPARTMENT, WE WOULD BE MAKING CUTS TO THAT SERVICE RIGHT NOW TO FACILITATE THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
UM, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO CAP METRO, AND THEY NEED TO COME TO THE TABLE WITH SOMETHING.
AND I'M HOPING THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH US AND TREAT US LIKE A PARTNER, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT TREATING US LIKE A VERY GOOD PARTNER.
UM, WE NEED TO FIX THAT RELATIONSHIP FOR SURE.
UM, BUT ULTIMATELY I WILL NOT SUPPORT ANY SORT OF WITHDRAWAL UNLESS WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE BECAUSE JUST ELIMINATING SERVICE IS NOT GOING TO FLY.
AND ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE BEFORE A VOTE CLEARS UP, OR IF YOU WANT TO SURE.
30 SECONDS THAT'D BE A RECORD, UM, FROM THE CITY STAFF PERSPECTIVE AND ALSO HAVING COME IN FROM THE OUTSIDE AND HAVING BEEN INVOLVED WITH TRANSIT ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE AND ON THE CONSULTANT SIDE, UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS PULL TOGETHER ALL THE INFORMATION FOR, Y'ALL GIVE YOU ALL SOME, UH, POINTS OF REFERENCE IN TERMS OF COSTS AND OTHER THINGS AND RIDERSHIP, UH, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED DOING THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS IN TERMS OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL DID WANT TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES, WHAT THOSE MIGHT BE, UM, HAVING FUNCTIONED, UH, AS TRANSIT DIRECTOR, UH, WHILE BEING AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER IN ONE PLACE, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS AND THEN THERE'S ALSO PRIVATE SECTOR OPTIONS, OBVIOUSLY NOT JUST ANOTHER STANDUP PUBLIC ENTITY, BUT JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW, WE'VE WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED WITH CAPITAL METRO OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS AND LOOKING AT WHAT OPTIONS, WHAT OTHER OPTIONS THERE COULD BE, INCLUDING, UM, CAPITAL REBATE TYPE PRODUCT, UH, PROGRAMS SUCH AS HOUSTON.
METRO HAS TO BRING TO THE SMALL CITIES INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED TO MOBILITY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
WELL, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THOUGH, THAT WE'VE, WE BROUGHT THOSE THINGS FORWARD AND THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN WINDED.
WE HAVE NOT YET BEEN ABLE TO COME TO, TO GET THAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING, UH, I THINK EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE THERE IS REALLY, NO, I THINK THE MAYOR SUMMED IT UP.
WE HAVE, I THINK IT WOULD BE, WE WOULDN'T BE DOING OUR PART IF WE DIDN'T LOOK AT IT THOUGH AND PROVIDE YOU WITH THE OPTIONS.
HI, I'M UH, JOE BURKE, YOU, UM, FIRST OFF I WANTED TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL AND THAT A MAYOR, UH, FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE AND HARD WORK FOR LEANDER.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
UM, ONE THING I WANTED TO ASK IS, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHAT IS YOUR VISION FOR LEANDER? WHAT IS YOUR BRAND? WHAT IS YOUR LONG-TERM PLAN? AND LET ME EXPLAIN FOR A SECOND.
I THINK THERE'S REAL ISSUES MOVING FORWARD IN THE CITY OF LANDER, WE'VE KIND OF, YOU KIND OF ADDRESSED SOME OF THEM.
WE STILL HAVEN'T RECOVERED FROM THE ICE APOCALYPSE IN FEBRUARY.
WE'RE STILL IN A STAGE TWO DROUGHT.
WE HAD A BOIL WATER NOTICE LAST YEAR, NOT EVEN IMPACTED BY, UH, THE FREEZE CEDAR
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PARK WAS ABLE TO RECOVER FROM THE ICE APOCALYPSE RIGHT AWAY WITHOUT BEING IN A DROUGHT.WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO FIX THIS? WHAT'S THE LONG-TERM PLAN, THE SENIOR CENTERS, SENIOR CITIZENS, SENIOR CITIZENS CENTER.
WE HAVE APPROVED A BOND FOR THIS YEARS AGO.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? WHAT'S OUR LONGTERM PLAN.
AND YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT CAP METRO.
WE'RE STUDYING THE COSTS OF METRO CAP, METRO, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY GET OUT AND DO OTHER SERVICES.
BUT MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE, WHAT ARE THE HIDDEN INVESTMENTS WITH CAP METRO? THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME UP HERE BEFORE TALKED ABOUT NORTHWELL THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED, IS THAT, IS THAT, UH, IS THAT HOW'S THAT GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THIS? I THINK THAT TO ME, I THINK WITH CAP METRO THERE'S, WE CAN LOOK AT INVESTING IN CAP, METRO AROUND CAP METRO TO MAYBE INCREASE ITS USE, BUT ALSO WE COULD LOOK AT, I I'VE LOOKED AT THE, UM, THE ORDINANCE AROUND CAP METRO.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY, UH, WORK WITH CAP METRO TO REDUCE THE, THE TAXES THAT THEY COLLECT.
I KNOW THAT THEY COLLECT A PENNY RIGHT NOW FOR OUR SIZE.
BUT I THINK IF YOU CAN COME TO THE TABLE AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE, WE'RE POTENTIALLY GETTING OUT, UH, CAN YOU REDUCE IT TO FIVE SET OF 50 CENTS OR SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE REASONABLE? CAN'T DO IT.
I GUESS THIS IS AN OPEN DISCUSSION, RIGHT? YEAH.
I MEAN, COUNSEL, I ADVISE YOU AGAINST TALKING ABOUT THE WATER ISSUES BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A WATER UPDATE TONIGHT ON OUR AGENDA.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD BEFORE YOU KIND OF COMMENT ON THAT AND I'M OKAY WITH YOU COMMENTING.
I, I THINK THOUGH WHERE A RAPIDLY GROWING CITY AND MY OPINION IS WE'RE AT KIND OF AN INFLECTION POINT, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO OUR CITY.
I THINK IT'S THE TIME TO HAVE THIS VISION IN OUR BRAND.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR THE OVERALL GROUP IS WHAT IS YOUR VISION? WHAT IS YOUR BRAND MOVING FORWARD? COUNSEL? I'M NOT GOING TO SAY MINE SINCE THIS IS MY LAST DAY.
MAYBE THIS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE MAYOR WHO IS GOING TO SET THE AGENDA AND TELL US WHAT, UM, SO I'LL START UNLESS YOU WANT TO START.
UM, SO I THINK LANDAIR IS A INCREDIBLY AWESOME PLACE.
UM, THAT SHOULD REALLY BE A DESTINATION, RIGHT? AND I KNOW THAT'S WHY THE BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THE TRAIN THING, UH, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT AND GROW THAT DESTINATION.
AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO, TO, TO, TO, UH, I GUESS, RESPONSIBLY, UM, AND HANDLE THE, THE RESOURCES THAT WE'RE GIVEN AS A CITY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BUILD IT.
SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE CONCERNS WITH, WITH MULTIPLE PLACES OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
I WON'T GO INTO ANY SPECIFIC ONE, JUST SO I DON'T TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ON OUR AGENDA.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UM, WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE GOOD FINANCIAL DECISIONS WITH OUR MONEY.
AND THAT MEANS HAVING TOUGH CONVERSATIONS SO THAT WE CAN REGROUP RIGHT NOW AND GROW SMART.
LIKE YOU'D LIKE, LIKE YOU'RE PLANNING RIGHT NOW.
LIKE, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY A POINT OF NO RETURN WITH THAT ENTITY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TOO.
UM, WE EITHER TALK ABOUT IT AND GIVE PEOPLE THE DECISION NOW, OR IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE TALKED ABOUT LATER AND WE WOULD, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE, WE'D HAVE TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
SO I AGREE WITH YOU, UM, THAT THIS IS A CRITICAL TIME.
SO MY SHORT TERM IS THIS IS A CRITICAL TIME, SO LET'S GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK THAT THERE'S VERY, UM, THAT NEED, WE NEED TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL WITH, UH, WITH DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UM, GETTING THE DRONE AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE SPENDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY ON.
W W WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON THE SENIOR CITIZENS THEN? SO SENIOR CITIZENS CENTER, UM, I THINK IS ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, IT GOT APPROVED BEFORE THEN THAT I WAS PERSONALLY HERE.
UM, I WAS IN A MEETING, UM, WITH A MEMBER OF OUR, UH, SENIOR, UM, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S LIKE A COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER TO IT DOESN'T MATTER, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE IDEA TO ACTUALLY HAVE A DIFFERENT LOCATION BESIDES THAT, WHEN IT DIDN'T COME FROM ANYBODY ON COUNCIL, JUST SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE, UM, AND HEARD IT COME OUT OF THE PERSON'S MOUTH TOO IN AGREED THAT IT ACTUALLY WAS A GOOD THING TO TALK ABOUT.
SO RATHER THAN THE SECLUDED LOCATION OF WHERE IT IS, THERE WAS A TALK ABOUT WHETHER IT COULD BE IN ANOTHER PLACE THAT THE CITY OWNED, UM, THAT WOULD BE CLOSER TO SOME OTHER AMENITIES THAT THE CITY OWNS RIGHT NOW.
AND SO WE WERE GOING DOWN A PATH OF AT LEAST EXPLORING THAT.
I THINK IT GOT PRESENTED THAT IT WAS THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE BEHIND IT AND THERE JUST WASN'T.
UM, AND, UM, I WISH THAT I WISH IT WAS POSSIBLE TO GET ANSWERS AND TO DO SOMETHING QUICKER, BUT WE'RE ALSO
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GOING THROUGH THIS, UH, A FACILITIES ASSESSMENT IS THAT HOME, WE'RE CALLING IT.I WAS GOING TO CHIME IN AND SAY, THIS, THE STAFF WE'VE, WE'VE KICKED OFF THE FACILITIES STUDY AND WITH OUR GROWTH RATE, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT, I CAN'T DO THAT EITHER.
SO WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT EITHER.
SO WE POURED A CFP STUFF COMMITTEE.
WE WENT IN THERE, WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 220 IN STAFF.
IF I SAY ANYTHING, THAT'S NOT CORRECT.
PLEASE PREGNANT RIGHT HERE IN PUBLIC.
RIGHT? CAUSE THAT THEY NEED TO KNOW THIS IS WHAT CAME TO THE MEETINGS, RIGHT? WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 220 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
SEE, ACTUALLY, WHEN I SAY CIP, I MEAN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, I THOUGHT IT WAS TWO, I SAY APPROXIMATELY THREE 20, BECAUSE IT'S CHANGED ON THE PAPER.
RIGHT? WE HAD ZERO PROJECT MANAGER.
THE DIRECTORS OF OUR DEPARTMENTS WERE BASICALLY AS DIRECTORS AND PROJECT MANAGER, EVERY, EVERY I SHOULDN'T USE THAT ATE A LOT OF PROJECTS AND LEANDER TO INCLUDE THE SENIOR CENTER OR OVER BUDGET, NOT EVEN OUT OF DESIGN.
THE SENIOR CENTER WAS A MILLION DOLLARS, A MILLION DOLLARS BUDGET, NOT EVEN OUT OF DESIGN.
SO WE SAID, WELL, I WAS AT THAT MA'AM CRESSMAN MS. BLANK, CORLEY.
SHE SAID, I COULD USE YOUR NAME ON IT SAID, HEY, DON'T YOU THINK IT'D BE BETTER TO PUT IT BY THE LIBRARY.
I'M LIKE MODEL NUMBERS, BUT I'LL LOOK INTO IT.
AND WHEN I DID THAT, I WENT TO PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE IT'S BORING.
I WAS LIKE, GINA, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR EXPANSION AS THE CITY EXPENSES? WELL, I'LL NEED THAT LAND.
SO IF WE BUILT THE SENIOR CENTER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE LAND.
THAT'S WHEN WE SAID, OKAY, LET'S PAUSE IT.
UNLESS THERE'S SOME RESEARCH, LET'S FIGURE THIS OUT.
I EVEN TOLD MARK ME THE PARKS DIRECTOR.
AND I SAID, HEY, LOOK, YOU'RE A MILLION DOLLARS OVER, BUT I'M PRETTY MUCH, OH YEAH.
CAUSE EVERYTHING THE CITY DID WAS OVER BUDGET BY MASSIVE AMOUNTS.
AND OVER TIME, WE'VE FIXED THAT.
NOW WE BROUGHT IN A DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT.
AND HOPEFULLY HE'S THE SOLUTION.
ALL RIGHT, DANIEL, HOPEFULLY HE'S THE SOLUTION.
BUT NOW WE HAVE PROJECT MANAGERS.
WE HAVE PEOPLE OVER THE PROJECT, MAN.
SO WHEN YOU ASKED WHAT MY VISION IS, MY VISION IS ONE PER STAFF, BECAUSE EVERYTHING COMES FROM STAFF THAT WE HAVE TO BE STABBED.
AND IN THE CITY OF SOLVENT, THE CITY CAN TAKE CARE OF ITS CITIZENS.
CAUSE ANYTHING ELSE, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
SO I'M GOING TO FALL APART ANYWAY, SORRY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE CAP METRO FUNDING WHILE THE TRANSPORTATION CODE DOES SAY THAT THEY CAN REDUCE IT IN QUARTER INCH INCREMENTS BECAUSE OF THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION AND THE EQUAL.
AND, UM, WAS IT EQUAL AND FAIR, EQUAL AND UNIFORM TAXATION? UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO REDUCE IT TO THE ENTIRE SURFACE AREA AND CURRENTLY THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO DO THAT.
IT MEANS EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THE SYSTEM.
UM, BUT WE'LL SEE, I'M HOPING THEY COME UP WITH SOMETHING EXTREMELY LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN DO.
THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS A OR B OR IN OR OUT SITUATION.
ALL RIGHT, JOE DELL GER TWO MORE SPEAKERS AFTER THIS, WE HAVE ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, WATER IS ON THE AGENDA, SO I'LL KEEP IT AT A HIGH LEVEL.
I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WATER METRICS AND METRICS FOR THE CITIZENS TO SEE, UH, IT WAS A START ON THE WEBPAGE THIS PAST TWO WEEKS THAT WE CAN SEE HOW MANY MILLION GALLONS A DAY WE'RE USING ON THAT DEMOGRAPH.
THAT'S A GOOD START, BUT THERE'S THINGS GOING ON WITH WATER DISTRIBUTION IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY THAT, THAT I'M NOT, UH, UP TO SPEED ON.
AND I READ EVERYTHING ABOUT WATER, BUT I'VE HEARD THAT SOME PLACES CLOSER TO RONALD REAGAN MIGHT HAVE LOW WATER PRESSURE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A RUMOR OR NOT.
AND WE NEED THAT TYPE OF COMMUNICATION TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST AT THE HIGHER LEVEL.
UM, I BELIEVE SINCE WE, THE CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO PROCEED WITH THE EXPANSION OF BC, ARE YOU WAY? I THINK JOE THINKS THAT HAS SOLVED A LOT OF OUR WATER PROBLEMS WHEN I'M IN THE DARK, WHEN IT COMES TO INSIDE THE, THE FOUR WALLS OF THE CITY OF LEANDER, YOU KNOW, HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT NEXT WATER TOWER OR THAT STORAGE TANK IS THE LINE FROM NEW HOPE TO SAN GABRIEL? YOU KNOW, IS IT URGENT NOW OR IS IT URGENT IN A YEAR AND A HALF? WHAT ABOUT THE PIPELINE THAT IT NEEDS TO GO DOWN SAINT GABRIEL FROM RONALD REAGAN INTO WHERE OUR WATER IS? YOU KNOW, HOW URGENT IS THAT?
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UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE MORE INFORMATION ON THE WEBPAGE TO DESCRIBE WHETHER WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE OR BAD SHAPE, BECAUSE I'M RUNNING INTO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THINK WE'RE IN DIRE STRAITS ON, UH, WATER DISTRIBUTION.AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE ME WHO SPOKE LOUDLY ON THIS SUBJECT, I'M ACTUALLY FEELING MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE DO EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO WITH THE WALLS OF THE CITY, WITH THESE PIPELINE STORAGE TANKS AND TOWERS.
SO I THINK THE CITIZENS GOT THE MESSAGE THAT WATER IS A BIG PROBLEM AND IT MIGHT NOT BE AS BIG A PROBLEM NOW, AS I ONCE THOUGHT IT WAS, BUT THERE'S NO DATA TO TALK TO ANOTHER PERSON THAT MIGHT THINK ANOTHER WAY.
WE'RE JUST ALL BRINGING OUR OWN GUESSING DATA.
IS IT SAFE TO SAY WE'LL HAVE GOOD DATA IN ABOUT A MONTH WITHIN A MONTH? YEAH, WE'VE GOT, WE HAVE WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA TODAY AND WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK, OBVIOUSLY OUR WORKSHOPS SUMMER RETREAT SESSION WITH EVEN MORE, AND LET'S JUST SAY, OR DANIEL IS READING AND ABSORBING LIKE YOU STUDY FOR EVERY EXAM.
SO WE CAN'T REALLY ADDRESS IT BECAUSE OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
BUT TO KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE A BUNCH OF DATA THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING IN SHORTLY, BUT, UH, DEFINITELY WE CAN EVEN TONIGHT, AND I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT EXPECTATIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS SINCE, UH, BESIDES CAP METRO, THE BIGGEST THING THAT COMES UP IS, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE WATER? AND WE REALLY DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE WATER IN TWO YEARS.
I MEAN, I THINK WE WILL, BUT THERE'S QUESTION.
CAN I ADDRESS THE COMMUNICATION JUST FOR A MOMENT? THIS WON'T TAKE LONG, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SEE ON THE WEBSITE OR A FACEBOOK PAGE OR WHATEVER, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF EXPECTATION FROM PEOPLE IN GENERAL TO GET IMMEDIATE UPDATES ON EVERYTHING AND THAT YOUNG MAN, RIGHT BACK, IT'S NOT THE CHEAP GOT ONE MAN THAT DOES THIS.
AND IF HE IS DOING A LOT OF, YEAH, BUT THEY DON'T EXIST YET.
SO THERE'S BEEN THIS EXPECTATION THAT THINGS HAPPEN LIKE THAT.
AND THEY JUST DON'T BECAUSE THAT GUY WORKS SO HARD AND KNOW SO MUCH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW HE GETS IT ALL DONE, BUT JUST, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS OF ONE HUMAN BEING THAT CAN'T JUST IMMEDIATELY GET THINGS OUT THERE.
SO, SO THAT'S ALL, I HAD A LITTLE GRAY FOR THE ONE GUY FOR THE ONE MAN SHOW THAT'S COMMUNICATING RIGHT NOW.
HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH MIKE AND INFORMATION NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN SPENDING THE LAST YEAR, TRYING TO GET WHAT THE INFORMATION WAS.
IT'S SO FAST AND WE SAT BACK AND SAN GABRIEL AND THE NUMBERS CHANGE IN THE SAME MEETING.
I'M JUST GONNA BE HONEST, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL WANT TRANSPARENCY OR TRANSPARENCY TO KNOW WHERE THEY HAD THE WATER.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW THERE'S NOBODY OVER DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
THERE WAS, THERE'S A HYDRO MONSTER.
AND WE FIXED THAT IN THE LAST YEAR.
WE'VE BEEN LOOKING, DIGGING, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THAT DATA IS.
AND HOPEFULLY LIKE THE MAYOR SAYS, WE'RE CLOSE.
OKAY, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, IT GETS FRUSTRATING GOING AND GETTING DIFFERENT NUMBERS EVERY WEEK.
AND I WANT TO SNEAK THIS IN REAL QUICK THAT THE CITIZENS ARE EXPECTING US TO GO TO WATERING TWICE A WEEK.
AND I SEE NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T.
AND SO THE CITIZENS NEED TO BE TOLD WHY WE CAN'T GO TO TWICE A WEEK.
AND BY THE WAY, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD I LIVE IN, THERE'S A LOT OF CHEATERS.
THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY IS WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER INFORMATION COMING UP AND I KNOW I'VE SAID THIS AT OTHER TIMES, AND THIS IS KIND OF LIKE, UNFORTUNATELY, THE CAP METRO ISSUE.
I DON'T THINK, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT BOTH NEAR TERM AND LONGTERM.
AND THE ANSWER IS PROBABLY NOT BCR YOU WAY OR ANOTHER THING.
IT'S PROBABLY A VCR, A WAY AND ANOTHER THINGS AND A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF IN BETWEEN.
AND THAT'S NOT AN ANSWER ANYBODY WANTS TO HEAR, BUT COMING FROM THE OUTSIDE, ONCE YOU ALL START SEEING THE DATA AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN ONE SESSION, JUST LIKE IT'S GOING TO, TO TALK ABOUT CAT MEASURE UP.
SO I WOULD JUST, I WOULD, AS MUCH AS YOU CAN ALSO HAVING COME FROM THE OUTSIDE, HAVING BEEN HERE 19 MONTHS, NOW, EVERYBODY, IF WE COULD TAKE AN OPEN MIND AND LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT AND ALL WORK TOGETHER FOR THE NEW YEAR AND THE LONGTERM.
AND AS I GO THIS WAY, I WANT TO SAY, PLEASE BUILD THE SENIOR CENTER WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT, BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING IS MORE REASONS TO THE LIGHT.
NOW WE HAVE TO DO A FACILITY STUDY.
UM, I REALLY THANK THOSE OUTGOING COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THEIR SERVICE AND I WELCOME THOSE INCOMING COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, I WISH EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, THE VERY, VERY BEST, UM, I'VE LIVED IN AUSTIN AREA FOR
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ABOUT SEVEN YEARS NOW.I'VE ALWAYS HEARD A LITTLE ABOUT LEANDER OUT THERE IN THE BOONIES BACK IN 2014, BUT THAT'S NO LONGER THE CASE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE FASTEST, ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES, IF NOT THE FASTEST GROWING CITIES, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
I RECENTLY MOVED HERE EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THAT WITH MY FAMILY AND JUST WATCH EVERYTHING GROW.
THERE'S GONNA BE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES IN THE NEXT COMING YEARS.
UH, SO MANY DECISIONS HERE AND HAVE TO MAKE, I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE AGENDA ITEMS. I CAN SAY THERE'S A LOT OF THEM.
AND, UH, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU GOT A FULL PLATE, A LOT OF THINGS TO DO A LOT OF DECISIONS TO MAKE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO FIRST OFF, I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS TO YOU THAT THE VERY BEST, UH, KNOW THAT WE'RE BEHIND YOU.
WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A DELIBERATION.
YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT OF HARD CHOICES.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GREAT ALL THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE INPUT AND YOU HAVE FEEDBACK, IT'S JUST, IT'S SO WONDERFUL.
UM, I'VE ACTUALLY WANTED TO ASK ABOUT CAMP NATURAL AND, UM, SPECIFICALLY, ARE THERE ANY EFFORTS BEING TAKEN AT THE STATE LEVEL, UH, TO WORK THE LEGISLATORS, TO PERHAPS, UH, LOBBY FOR A CHANGE THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE, HOW THIS CAN'T CHANGE IT'S IN SHRINE IN THE CONSTITUTION AND SOME OF THE STATE LAWS.
UM, I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT THERE MIGHT BE SIMILARLY SITUATED CITIES THROUGHOUT TEXAS THAT MIGHT BE ENCOUNTERING SOME SIMILAR, YOU KNOW, ISSUE.
IS THERE A WAVE TO, TO BAND TOGETHER WITH THEM, UM, AND MAYBE DEVELOP A LITTLE BIT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME, A LOBBYING ORGANIZATION OR, UH, SOME SORT OF NETWORK.
UM, SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE THIS ONE IS, IS THE CITY PART OF ANY TYPE OF LAW LOBBYING EFFORT AT THE STATE CAPITOL ON A REGULAR BASIS IS HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE.
UM, AND TO, UM, IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? WOULD THERE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO CHANGE? IS THAT JUST A PIPE DREAM? BECAUSE THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, YEAH.
I TAKE THE TRAIN DOWN TO, UH, UH, TO, TO MY JOB DOWN THREE, ONE CONGRESS AVENUE.
IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE REASONS I MOVED UP HERE AMONG OTHERS.
YOU KNOW, IT WAS REALLY FAR AWAY FROM MY WORK LIFE, VERY CLOSE TO, TO, TO MY OFFICE, UM, BEFOREHAND MY WIFE WHO WORKS IN THE AREA.
SO I WAS RELUCTANT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE, A LOT OF GREAT THINGS ABOUT VIENNA THAT DISTANCE, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, CAP, METRO TRAIN, JUMP ON IT AND SEE WHAT IS OKAY.
SO THE OTHER QUESTION IS, IS WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT THINKING CAP METRO? BECAUSE I WILL HEAR ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT THAT.
I JUST HEAR ABOUT HOW IT'S SO EXPENSIVE.
YOU KNOW, ME IN A CADILLAC I'LL DRIVE DOWNTOWN, BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS HELPING ME BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE CAR FOR AN HOUR.
YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET PEOPLE EXCITED BY IT? AND YOU DON'T HAVE COVID NUMBERS.
I'LL COPE WITH NUMBERS, OBVIOUSLY.
WHAT I'M SEEING IS THAT THERE'S INCREASED RIDERSHIP EVERY SINGLE DAY IS I THINK CAP METRO PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO COME BACK AND I'M HOPING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWO MONTHS FROM NOW THAT TRAIN'S GOING TO BE FULL.
YOU KNOW, THE PLAN IS DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, PACK IT, ET CETERA, BUT LET'S GET PEOPLE SIGNED UP THAT ABOUT RIDING BIKES WITH ME, GET, LET'S MAKE IT A COOL THING TO DO.
SO WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO PROMOTE THAT? I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW IT'S GOING TO GO AWAY OR HOW TO RESTRUCTURE IT, BUT, UM, I THINK MAYBE IT COULD BE SALVAGED.
THAT'S AN ANGLE THAT I DON'T HEAR ABOUT.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON ALL THOSE.
I'M GLAD I DON'T HAVE TO STAY UP THERE.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT, UH, SOME OF WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, I SPOKE TO CAP METRO ABOUT LAST WEEK.
UM, AS FAR AS LEGISLATION GOES, UM, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE TWO YEARS BEFORE THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS BACK IN PLACE, BUT I THINK IT ABSOLUTELY DOES NEED TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THE FUNDING MECHANISM IS ALL WRONG.
WE ARE THE ONLY STATE THAT FUNDS THIS WAY AND DOING A FUNDING THE WAY THAT THEY DO WITH THOSE CAPTURE OF SALES TAX AND THE VOTE.
AND IT CREATES A PATCHWORK OF SERVICES.
SO YOU CAN'T TAKE CAT METRO FROM LEANDER TO GEORGETOWN OR LEANDER TO ROUNDROCK.
UM, AND IT'S RIDICULOUS BECAUSE YOU GO ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY AND YOU HAVE GOOD PUBLIC TRANSIT THAT YOU CAN TAKE PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE.
UM, I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE'S LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES TEAM FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
UM, THEY CAN HELP US TO LEGISLATE FOR THAT, BUT AGAIN, IT'S TWO YEARS AWAY.
UM, AS FAR AS MARKETING GOES, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, WE CAN ALL DO BETTER AT MARKETING IT, BUT SO COULD THEY, UM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS SORT OF MUTUAL PROMOTIONS.
I THINK MAYBE YOU HAD SOMETHING TO ADD.
WELL, I, I WANTED TO JUST THROW IT.
YES, WE CAN WORK WITH LEGISLATORS AND SO CAN, SO CAN YOU, YOU CAN WRITE THEM BECAUSE Y'ALL ALL VOTE FOR THEM, JUST LIKE WE DO.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, IF YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH THE, THE AMOUNT, TALK TO YOUR LEGISLATORS AND ASK THEM THAT WE WOULD LIKE SOME REFORM ON THAT.
UM, RICK YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT, THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE, BUT GO AHEAD.
WELL, THAT IS, IF YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, OBVIOUSLY THE RELATIONSHIP FROM THE LEGISLATURE TO, UH, BACK TO THE CITIES AND TML WAS NOT PERFECT.
I THINK THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION WAS, WAS MUCH MORE FRUITFUL.
UH, I THINK WE NEED TO BE PATIENT ON THAT FRONT.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT STAFF WORKED WITH, UH, OUR DELEGATION.
SHE SAYS SHE DOESN'T WANT TO SAY I CAN.
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AND THE HOTEL, UH, THE STATE HOTEL LEGISLATION AND THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND A MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT OVER OVERLAYING NORTHLINE AS WELL.SO AUSTIN FC IS STARTING OFFICIALLY SATURDAY.
THERE ARE QUITE A BIT OF LAND OR RESIDENTS WHO ARE GOING TO AUSTIN FC.
SO THE RAIL SERVICES NEEDED FOR THAT.
THAT'S SO GOOD TO HAVE SOCCER SOCCER, RIGHT? SO FOR US TO PAY THAT MUCH MONEY FOR IT, TO BE ABLE TO, TO GET PEOPLE DOWN THERE AND WE CAN LITERALLY, WE CAN LITERALLY RENT BUSES FOR THAT TICKET.
I'M LIKE PRIVATE STUFF DOWN THERE.
THAT'S AN AWESOME THING TO WHAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
THAT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S GOING TO GET PEOPLE IT'S GOING TO GET PEOPLE EXCITED.
AND HOW MUCH MORE EXCITING IF THERE ACTUALLY WAS A CHANCE AND IT WASN'T JUST A PIPE DREAM TO WORK WITH LEGISLATURE.
IF IT ACTUALLY WAS POSSIBLE TO BRING IN SOME OTHER CITIES, BECAUSE THE AMOUNT THAT YOU, THAT WE SUBSIDIZED TO GET THAT SERVICE ACT, OTHER CITIES CAN ACTUALLY OPT IN AND IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT FOR THEM TO ALSO DO THE SAME THINGS AS US AND BE ABLE TO GO DOWN THE OPPOSITE.
I'VE SEEN THAT'S THE WAY TO DO THAT.
SO IF IT'S ABOUT THE TAX CAP THOUGH, I THINK WE WOULD REALLY NEED RED CAP, METRO HOUSTON, METRO.
AND THE DFW AREA AND THE MAJOR METROS TO ALL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, RIGHT? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
YOU HAVE SOMETHING REALLY QUICK.
IF WE HAVE, THAT'S WHAT OUR LAST TOPIC IS TOO.
WE HAVE ONE MORE AND FIVE MINUTES FORMER MAYOR JOHN KELMAN.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR SERVING.
AND I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS.
I SEE HARMONY AND THAT'S WONDERFUL HERE FOR THE CITY OF LEANDRA, BUT I DO HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE ALSO, AND MAYBE A LIMITED OR LACKING, BUT I DO TO THE CITY MANAGER.
WHEN YOU DO YOUR ANALYSIS ABOUT CAPITAL METRO, LET YOUR COUNSEL KNOW THAT WE CREATED A BILLION DOLLARS IN VALUE, 1 BILLION, AT LEAST IN THE DESIGN AND EVERYTHING.
AND IT WAS ALL BUILT AROUND METRO IN THE LEANDER TOB, A BILLION DOLLARS WAS CREATED WHEN WE, WHEN WE WERE IN, WHEN I WAS IN OFFICE, WE HAD A GOLDEN CHICKEN, A SAUNA ON 180 3, THAT'S ALL THAT WAS HERE.
WE GOT CAPITAL METRO TO INVEST MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND CREATED OUR THREE LEGGED STOOL.
WE WERE AFTER BIG MEDICAL, BIG TRANSPORTATION AND BIG EDUCATION.
I ORGANIZED THE HIGH RAIL TOUR AND I HAD THE PRESIDENT OF CAPITAL METRO, THE PRESIDENT, DR.
KINZEL OF, UH, ACC AND, UH, UH, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD, VERY ARROGANT FELLOW OF ST.
THAT'S A THING THAT GOES ON THAT MEANING CREATE.
WE CREATED VALUE AND WE TALK ABOUT 50% OF 1% AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.
BUT WE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THE INVESTMENT WE MADE.
AND IT'S VERY HARD NOT TO STAND ON A THREE LEGGED STOOL TO STAND UP YOUR COUNCIL BACK IN OH THREE TO 2012 SAID, WE'RE CREATING THIS STOOL BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE HAD.
WE DON'T HAVE A BIG ITEMS, 35 OR WHATEVER.
WE'RE GOING TO CREATE VALUE AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EVERY CITIZEN HERE.
THAT'S HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS TO US AND A PLANNING EFFORT OR YOUR CITY OF LEANDRA GOT THE BEST PLANT CITY IN THE UNITED STATES SHARE THAT WITH THE COUNCIL IN YOUR REPORT.
BUT THE VALUE THAT WAS CREATED WITH CAPITAL METRO COMING HERE AND THE INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE MADE, IT'S MR. SHAWN, A LOT OF UNRAVELING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN.
WE MADE THAT CHOICE BACK THEN BECAUSE IT WASN'T TO CREATE A GREAT VALUE TO THE CITY.
UH, MR.
THE SHORT-SIGHTEDNESS OF MAYBE NOT GET OUT, MAYBE LOOK FOR ALTERNATE MEANS WE HAVE A PARTNER THAT INVESTED IN US BIG TIME.
THEY BROUGHT KINDS OF THINGS TO US WHEN WE WERE HAVE NOTS.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S HOW WE GOT STARTED.
AND I'D LOVE TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU ALL AND SHARE.
THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH MORE STORIES I COULD TELL, BUT THAT, THAT CAPITAL METRO IS VERY DEAR TO THE STRUCTURE.
THE BEGINNINGS OF THIS CITY, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
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AND IF YOU ALL CREATE THAT VOID AND THE TWO LEGGED STOOL, WE NEED THAT THIRD LEG TO STAND UP PROPERLY.IT'S ALL ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE CITY IS ABOUT.
AND THERE'S A SAYING THAT, UH, THAT WE USED AND THE CITIZENS USED ON ME THAT THE CITIZENS OF LEANDRA WILL NOT SUBSCRIBE TO THE SOFT BIGOTRY OF LOW EXPECTATIONS.
THAT WON'T KILL ME, SOFT BIGOTRY OF LOW EXPECTATIONS.
BUT ANYWAYS, THAT'S, UH, THERE NEEDS TO BE NO RESPONSE.
THERE HAS TO BE A RESPONSE TO THAT.
THERE HAS TO BE RESPONSE THERE.
IT WOULD BE VERY QUICK, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE VOTED ON THIS? AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT IN 1985, HOW MANY PEOPLE VOTED IN FAVOR OF THIS TO MAKE IT PASS ENOUGH? HOW MANY TO MAKE IT PASS? 47? OKAY.
THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS MY, THIS IS MY THING.
YOU'RE EXTREMELY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.
CAUSE YOU'RE VERY CLOSE TO THIS AND YOU'RE TOO CLOSE TO IT TOO.
AND NOT HERE SEEING THE CURRENT BUDGET TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE AT LEAST HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
I THINK THE DISCUSSION IS GREAT.
EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE ON THE TABLE.
BUT WHEN YOU DO YOUR REPORT TO COUNCIL, PLEASE INCLUDE THINGS LIKE THE VALUE CREATED.
AND WHY NORTH CLIENTS COMING NORTH? WHAT DO THEY CALL IT? NORTHERN LINE.
WHAT'S THE ONE I DO NOT WANT TO TOO.
HE'LL BE JUST, OKAY, HE'LL BE FINE.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO BETRAY THE TRUST THAT SOME THINGS HE SAID TO ME, IT'S NOT ABOUT JOHN.
MORE PASSIONATE ABOUT GETTING BETTER.
YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN BETTER ABOUT CHARACTER.
IT'S NOT ABOUT IT'S ABOUT LEANDER, RIGHT? EVERYBODY'S LIKE, WELL, I NEED TO GET ON THE TRAIN AND I NEED TO GO DOWN TO AUSTIN.
HOW DO PEOPLE IN AUSTIN GET ON THE TRAIN TO COME UP TO LEANDER.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PASS FOR ACC TO GET AFTER THE ACC AND LEANNE AND ACC IS ALL VIRTUAL.
I GOT FREE COLLEGE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE ANYWHERE I WANT TO GO.
UH, I, I WAS A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE VCR UA, AND I'D LOVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT, WHAT WE WERE THINKING BACK THEN, AND IT MIGHT HELP YOU MAKE DECISIONS.
NOW, INITIAL DRIVE, WE GOT THAT LAND FOR THREE.
UH, USE THAT TO THE BEST OF ITS ABILITY AND DON'T KEEP WAITING.
BUT ANYWAYS, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
AND UM, WE NEED TO RESET THE ROOM.
SO, UH, I'M SURE SEVERAL OF US WILL BE OUT HERE.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TO FOLLOW UP ON ANYTHING FOR THE NEXT 12 MINUTES, WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 7:00 PM.
[5. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.]
TODAY IS THURSDAY, JUNE 17TH, 2021.AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL.
UM, WE HAVE SOMEBODY PROVIDING THE INVOCATION TODAY.
IS HE HERE? THANK YOU, PASTOR.
CAN YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR CHURCH AND EVERYBODY RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND THEN WE WILL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
UH, MY NAME IS CHRIS WIMBERLEY, UH, PASTOR OF A LOCAL CHURCH.
IT'S A GREAT HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE WITH ALL OF YOU TONIGHT.
AND I'D LOVE TO PROVIDE THE INVOCATION AND ASK THE LORD TO BLESS THIS EVENING.
IF YOU WOULD BOW YOUR HEADS, FATHER, LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS PLACE TONIGHT THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED FOR US.
I THANK YOU FOR ALL THESE MEN AND WOMEN, WHERE WE ALL COME HERE WITH A COMMON GOAL TO SEE HEALTH IN THE LIVES OF OUR CHILDREN AND OUR CITY.
AND I THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE HERE THAT WE'VE COME HERE TONIGHT, LORD, TO PROVIDE OUR IDEAS, LORD AND OUR THOUGHTS AND OUR PASSIONS AND DESIRES FOR, FOR WHAT, WHAT THE CITY WOULD LOOK LIKE.
WHAT AN AMAZING PLACE TO LIVE LEANDER, TEXAS, WHAT A BLESSING LORD.
AND SO TONIGHT, WOULD YOU BLESS THIS PLACE? LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US A SPIRIT OF UNITY AND A BOND OF PEACE.
AS WE COME IN TONIGHT AND SHARE TOGETHER.
LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD WATCH OVER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICERS AND MTS LORD, AS THEY GO ON THE FRONT LINES, LORD TO FIGHT BATTLES AND, UH, BE IN DANGEROUS PLACES FOR US.
LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD WATCH OVER THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES.
LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH THE COUNCIL, THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL.
WE THANK YOU FOR THESE MEN AND WOMEN LORD THAT SPEND SO MUCH OF THEIR TIME TO BLESS US IN THESE COMMUNITIES, LORD, TO WATCH OVER THEM IN THEIR FAMILIES.
LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT GOD, AND I DO PRAY FOR EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT.
LORD, WOULD YOU WATCH OVER THEIR FAMILIES WATCH OVER THEIR CHILDREN.
LORD, WOULD YOU WATCH OVER OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND OUR CITY LORD THAT THIS WOULD BE A PLACE LORD, WHERE, WHERE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE JOY AND LAUGHTER AND SAFETY AS, AS MANY ARE MOVING HERE, LORD, A QUICKLY GROWING CITY THAT PEOPLE WOULD COME HERE AND FIND A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.
WE THANK YOU FOR BREATH IN OUR LUNGS AND BEATING HEARTS TONIGHT THAT
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WE GET TO BE HERE AND, AND TALK TOGETHER LORD.AND SO LORD, WE PRAY THESE THINGS IN YOUR MIGHTY NAME, THE NAME OF JESUS, AND WE ALL SAID, AMEN.
[6. Roll Call.]
CRABTREE.CAN YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCILMEMBER KATHERINE BATTALION PARKER HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER NET SPAWN SELLER HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER, JASON SHAW HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER, CHRIS NICK HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER, BECKY ROSS HERE, MAYOR CHRISTINE SAID QUIZ HERE.
THE QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.
WE CAN NOW DO BUSINESS, UM, ONTO
[7. Recognitions/Proclamations/Visitors. Juneteenth Proclamation Recognition of Service Councilmember Place 2 Oath of Office for newly elected Councilmember Place 2 and Councilmember Place 4]
THE REGULAR BUSINESS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.WE HAVE THE JUNETEENTH PROCLAMATION, WHICH WILL BE PROVIDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SPAWN SELLER.
WHEREAS ON JUNE 19TH, 1865 MAJOR GENERAL GORDON GRANGER ARRIVED IN GALVESTON, TEXAS TO ANNOUNCE THE END OF BOTH THE CIVIL WAR AND SLAVERY IN ACCORDANCE WITH PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION.
AND WHEREAS IN 1866, TEXANS BEGAN CELEBRATING JUNE 19TH, ALSO KNOWN AS EMANCIPATION DAY, FREEDOM DAY AND JUNETEENTH WITH COMMUNITY CENTRIC EVENTS, SUCH AS COOKOUTS, PRAYER, GATHERINGS, READINGS, AND USE GO PERFORMANCES.
AND WHEREAS IN 1980 THROUGH THE EFFORTS OF STATE REPRESENTATIVE AL EDWARDS, AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE DESIGNATED EMANCIPATION DAY IN TEXAS AS A STATE HOLIDAY, THE FIRST COMMEMORATION OF EMANCIPATION ACCORDED OFFICIAL STATE RECOGNITION.
AND WHEREAS JUNETEENTH MARKS OUR COUNTRY'S SECOND INDEPENDENCE DAY AND AS OBSERVED AS A MOMENT IN TIME TO APPRECIATE THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN EXPERIENCE AND TO CELEBRATE AFRICAN-AMERICAN HERITAGE AND ACHIEVEMENT WHILE ENCOURAGING CONTINUOUS REFLECTION AND RESPECT FOR ALL CULTURES.
AND WHEREAS JUNETEENTH TODAY IS A SYMBOL OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT, ACHIEVING VICTORY OVER CRUELTY AND OPPRESSION AND ITS ANNIVERSARY SERVES TO REMIND US THAT ENDURANCE DETERMINATION AND PERSEVERANCE CAN CHANGE OUR WORLD FOR THE BETTER.
NOW, THEREFORE I MAYOR CHRISTINE SAID REQUESTS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM, JUNE 19TH, 2021 AS JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION DAY.
AND WE DO HAVE A GROUP OF
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE SAYING GOODBYE TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBER IN PLACE TO A NET SPAWN SELLER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FILLING THIS ROLE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO SERVE WITH YOU.
AND SO WE HAVE FOR YOU CRYSTAL PLAQUE
DO YOU WANT TO SAY YOUR COMMENTS FIRST OR HAVE US SAY OURS FIRST? YOU PLEASE.
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AT MIGHT HAPPEN.I DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOU CRY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CRY, BUT I, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, AND THAT WAS APPOINTED TO THIS POSITION IN A TIME THAT WE REALLY NEEDED SOMEONE TO STEP IN AND JUST TAKE OVER THAT COULD JUMP IN AND DO THE JOB, MAN.
DID SHE DO THE JOB SHE HAS, UH, FAR EXCEEDED FAR EXCEEDED ANY REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF A HUMAN BEING TO JUST STEP IN AND DO THIS.
SHE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND BY STUDYING AND DIVING INTO THE ISSUES AND, AND IT IS, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES.
AND IF YOU, IF YOU EVER LOOK AT THE AGENDA, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO STUDY EVERYTHING.
BUT THIS YOUNG LADY HAS, WHEN I SAY SERIOUSLY, FAR EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS YOU HAVE, AND IT HAS BEEN AN ABSOLUTE STOP LOOKING AT ME, AN ABSOLUTE HONOR AND JOY TO WORK WITH YOU.
AND, UH, YOU ARE NOT GOING AWAY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET YOU GET AWAY.
I DO EXPECT TO SEE YOU SERVING IN OTHER CAPACITIES BECAUSE IT IS IN YOUR HEART TO DO SO.
WHAT I'M GONNA SAY IS THAT NET SPONSOR LOVES THIS CITY.
I MEAN, FROM DAY ONE, SHE GOT IN AND SHE STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS AND, AND GENERALLY IT DIDN'T, I MEAN, IT WASN'T ABOUT IT.
WASN'T ABOUT BEING CALLED A COUNCIL MEMBER.
I MEAN, YOU JUST DUG IN AND LIKE, LIKE KATHERINE SAYS EXACTLY WHAT THE CITY NEEDED AT THE TIME.
AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE MISSED.
SO I'LL KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET AS WELL.
BUT, UM, I'VE BEEN A LOT AROUND A LOT OF ATHLETES AND I'VE BEEN AROUND A LOT OF BUSINESS PEOPLE AND A VERY, VERY, VERY RARELY DO YOU EVER FIND SOMEBODY THAT IS WILLING TO PUT IN THE TIME AND THE EFFORT AND HAVE THE PASSION, UH, TO, TO BE VERY GOOD AT WHAT THEY'RE, WHATEVER THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND SO YOURS WAS, I WANT TO SERVE THIS CITY AND, AND JASON'S RIGHT.
AND THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE WHOLE GOAL WAS TO LOVE THE CITY AND TO, IN, TO SERVE.
AND SO, UM, I'M JUST SUPER PROUD OF YOU FOR THE, FOR THE PASSION THAT YOU'VE HAD AND THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT YOU WERE WILLING TO DO THINGS THAT QUITE FRANKLY, THAT I COULDN'T DO EITHER.
AND SO I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, THANK YOU.
UM, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE UP HERE WITH SEVEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE, YOU ALL KIND OF FALL INTO PLACES AND ALL THESE THINGS, AND YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE REALLY GOOD AND THEY WANNA, THEY WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT TO, THEY'RE ALL ABOUT LIKE THE NUMBERS AND THEY GOT TO CRUNCH THE NUMBERS AND YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.
AND I RESPECT YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE IT IS VITALLY NECESSARY.
UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD AS A CITY THAT WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE AS PASSIONATE AS YOU ARE TOO.
SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING YOURSELF OUT THERE AND DEDICATING YOURSELF TO THE CITY.
AND I GO BACK TO GIRL SCOUT, TROOP LEADER DAYS WHEN OUR GIRLS WERE TINY.
AND THEN, UM, WE WORKED TOGETHER ON THE LAST CHARTER REVIEW.
UM, I WAS CHAIR, YOU WERE VICE CHAIR, UM, AND IT'S BEEN GREAT TO SEE YOU GROW THROUGH SERVICE AND SEE YOUR HEART ALL OF THESE YEARS.
AND IT REALLY IS IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE.
SO FIRST THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL THAT APPOINTED ME AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE CITY THAT I LOVE SO MUCH, IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF LEANDER.
I HAVE A LOT TO SAY TONIGHT SINCE IT'S MY LAST TIME, AND I HAVE THIS PLATFORM I'M GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS I WON'T BE ABLE TO DO TO ACCOMPLISH NOW THAT I FEEL ARE IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY OF THESE THINGS OR EXPLORE ANY OF THESE IDEAS.
I JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE IN THE HOPES THAT SOME OF YOU WOULD LOOK INTO SOME OF THESE PROPOSALS.
AS I THINK THAT THEY WOULD BENEFIT OUR CITY CONCERNING OUR WATER SYSTEM.
I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE NO SILVER BULLET.
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THERE'S NOT ONE THING THAT WILL SOLVE OUR WATER ISSUES.IT WILL TAKE MULTIPLE THINGS WORKING TOGETHER, PLEASE LOOKING INTO IMPLEMENTING A RAIN BARREL PROGRAM, OTHER CITIES, INCLUDING ROUND ROCK AND HAVE SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTED THEM.
AND THEY'VE CONSERVED SEVERAL MILLION GALLONS OF WATER YEAR OVER YEAR, ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, IMPLEMENTING PROGRAMS TO RETROFIT OLDER WATER FIXTURES, SUCH AS TOILETS AND SHOWER HEADS HAVE ALSO CONSERVED SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF WATER IN OTHER CITIES, INCLUDING AUSTIN AND SAN ANTONIO CONSIDER EXPANDING THE SANDY CREEK PLANT, ESPECIALLY ITS LAGOON TO ITS APPROPRIATE SIZE.
WE OWN LAND AROUND THE SANDY CREEK PLANT TO EXPAND, AND WE SHOULD NOT RELY SOLELY ON THE BCR UA FOR A WATER SUPPLY.
AS ORDINANCES START TO COME BEFORE YOU INITIATED BY THE COMP PLAN ADOPTION, PLEASE SUPPORT INCENTIVIZING DEVELOPERS TO NOT PUT TURF, GRASS AND IRRIGATION AND RIGHT OF WAYS.
AND ALSO THINK ABOUT SUPPORTING INCENTIVES AND ORDINANCES FOR HOMEOWNERS WHO CHOOSE TO ZEROSCAPE THEIR YARDS.
THIS IS EXPENSIVE AND OFFSETTING THE COSTS WHICH OTHER CITIES DO DO COULD ALLOW MORE HOMEOWNERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE ON THEIR WATER BILL AND CONSERVE OUR MOST PRECIOUS RESOURCE.
FINALLY CONTINUE TO PROMOTE CONSERVATION ROBUSTLY, CONTINUOUS REMINDERS VIA ALL MEDIA PLATFORMS TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT, EASY WAYS TO HELP AND WHAT OUR GOALS ARE.
I COULD REALLY GO ON, BUT THAT'S IT.
AND NEXT STEP IS, UM, SMALL BUSINESSES SINCE COUNCIL CAN'T DIRECT STAFF.
THIS ONE'S A LITTLE MORE FOR RICK.
THINK ABOUT, UM, DEDICATING A DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES STAFF MEMBER TO SMALL BUSINESS REVIEWS AND REQUESTS TO START BUILDING A CULTURE OF GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH SMALL BUSINESSES.
THIS ALLOW THEIR REVIEWS TO HAPPEN FASTER INSTEAD OF THEM GETTING IN LINE BEHIND LARGER DEVELOPMENTS, SUCH AS NORTHLINE.
THIS WILL ALSO HELP TO BUILD STRONG RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN STAFF AND SMALL BUSINESSES, WHICH HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE FOR COUNCIL.
THINK ABOUT A SMALL BUSINESS ROUND TABLE TO FIND OUT OTHER ISSUES THEY'RE FACING AND HOW WE CAN HELP.
PLEASE CONSIDER EXPEDITING AND IMPROVE APPROVING, UM, UPDATES TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE.
I KNOW IT'S NOT DONE YET OUR BUSINESSES AND ESPECIALLY OUR SMALL BUSINESSES NEED THIS AND IT SHOULD INCLUDE SUPER FLAGS DURING BUSINESS HOURS AND AMPLE SIGNAGE TO PROMOTE THEIR BUSINESSES ALONG WITH ADDITIONAL STAFF NEEDED THROUGHOUT THE CITY, PLEASE CONSIDER BUDGETING FOR EITHER A CONTRACTOR OR FULL-TIME GRANT WRITER.
THIS COULD ALLOW FOR SPECIFIC GRANTS TO BE TARGETED, TO HELP WITH THE COST OF PROGRAMS THAT COULD BENEFIT OUR CITY.
YOU GUYS ARE GOOD NOW ON TO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU TO MY FAMILY, MY HUSBAND, WHO'S MY FAVORITE SUPPORTER.
THANK YOU TO OUR FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY MARSHY CANNON, WHO I ASKED TO BE MY MENTOR SHORTLY AFTER MY APPOINTMENT.
SHE AGREED WITHOUT HESITATION AND I TREASURE THE TIME WE SPENT TOGETHER AND THE FRIENDSHIP THAT WE'VE MADE, AS WELL AS HER WILLINGNESS TO ANSWER ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.
I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL OF THE CITY STAFF WHO WERE AMAZING.
WE'RE LUCKY CITY TO HAVE SO MANY THAT CARES SO MUCH.
THEY WORK HARD LONG HOURS AND DESERVE SO MUCH RECOGNITION.
THANK YOU TO DARRA, WHO I THINK IS WHO I THINK OF IS THE REAL COO OF LEANDER.
SHE KNOWS HER WAY AROUND ALL THAT GOES INTO THE ADMINISTRATION OF MUNICIPALITY.
LASTLY, MY 2 CENTS ARE ADVICE TO THOSE ON COUNCIL AND THOSE NEWLY ELECTED WOULD BE TO ALWAYS BE WILLING TO LEARN BECAUSE YOU CAN NEVER KNOW IT ALL TO BE OPEN-MINDED TO EVERYONE'S VIEWS, ESPECIALLY OPPOSING VIEWS, TO BE EAGER, TO EXTEND A HANDSHAKE, MAKE A FRESH START AND PUT THE PAST BEHIND YOU.
THE PEOPLE DECIDED, AND WE NEED OUR CITY TO MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER AND CONTINUE TO BE PROSPEROUS AND FLOURISH.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE HONOR OF SERVING YOU.
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ALL RIGHT.WE'RE NOW GOING TO ADMINISTER THE OATH TO OUR NEW PLACE TO REPRESENTATIVE
NOW WE CAN WELCOME OUR NEW MEMBERS STARTING WITH PLACEMENT.
WELL, WELCOME OUR NEW MEMBERS.
WELCOME LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
AND, UH, THIS SHOULD BE REALLY FUN.
EXCITED ABOUT WHAT LIES AHEAD.
I KNOW Y'ALL WILL DO A PHENOMENAL JOB AND IT'S EXCITING TO HAVE ALL OF THE SEATS UP HERE, BACK IN FILLED AGAIN SO THAT WE CAN GET TO WORK.
SO WELCOME ABOARD COUNCIL IS NOW GOING TO TAKE A 10 MINUTE BRIEF RECESS FOR A RECEPTION IN THE CHAMBER LOBBY THE TOP.
IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY, I'M SORRY.
I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN, PLEASE DO.
I'D LIKE TO THANK ANNETTE SPONSLER CELLAR FOR HER
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SPEECH AND HER SERVICE.I APPRECIATED EVERYTHING SHE DID.
I'D LIKE TO THANK MY MOM AND MY AUNT AND MY FAMILY THAT'S HERE AND MY HUSBAND AND MY KIDS.
SO, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SUPPORTERS.
AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM, EVERYONE THAT'S WATCHING, WE'RE ALL PART OF LEANDER AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE AND WE ALL WANT THE SAME GOAL.
AND THANK MY DAD FOR BEING HERE WITH US.
I'M THANKFUL TO ALL OF YOU FOR VOTING, EVEN THOSE THAT DIDN'T VOTE FOR ME, YOU PARTICIPATED IN THE PROCESS.
EVEN THOSE THAT DIDN'T PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS.
I KNOW YOU CARE ABOUT LEANDER AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT WANTS TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE OUR CITY THE BEST THAT IT CAN BE.
AND THAT'S MY PROMISE TO YOU GUYS.
THE IRONY IS NOT LOST ON ME THAT TODAY, AS WE ACKNOWLEDGED JUNETEENTH IN THE PROCLAMATION HERE, I SAID A DESCENDANT OF SLAVES IN THIS STATE AND THEY WILL TO REPRESENT THE CITY.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
I'M SO THANKFUL THAT YOU'VE ENTRUSTED ME TO MAKE SMART AND WISE DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
AND MY PROMISE IS THAT I WILL DO JUST THAT
[8. Council will recess for a brief reception held in the council chamber foyer.]
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BRIEF RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES.THERE IS SOME REFRESHMENTS IN THE LOBBY.
CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENING AT 7:38 PM.
[9. Public comments on non-agenda items and items listed in the agenda including public hearings - Comments during this time are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual. Public comments on items listed in the agenda including public hearing agenda items will be heard at the time each item is discussed by Council. ]
ITEM NINE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.I WILL CALL ON SPEAKERS PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED COMMENTS VIA THE WEBSITE WILL ONLY HAVE POSITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD.
ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL AND WILL BE MADE PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD FOR NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS.
FRANK STYLES, 41 80 HIGHWAY 180 3, LEANDER, TEXAS.
HERE IS A COMMISSIONER FOR THE LANDER HISTORICAL COMMITTEE.
LANDER HAS A HUGE HISTORY AND WE'RE WORKING TO PRESERVE IT.
THERE WERE FIVE TOWNS THAT BECAME LEANDER.
THERE WAS BAGHDAD, PLEASANT HILL, THE MILLER COMMUNITY.
AND ONE OTHER THAT I ALWAYS FORGET, AND SOMEBODY WILL REMIND ME OF IT.
LATER ON IN 1882, LEANDER WAS FOUNDED FROM THESE FIVE TOWNS.
WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO KEEP A LOT OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
UH, MANY OF THE PEOPLE AT THE BLOCKHOUSE WENT OFF TO REINFORCE THE ALAMO.
THEY WENT AND FOUGHT AT SANDRA CENTER.
BILL PICKETT WAS BORN IN THE MILLER COMMUNITY.
WE'RE STILL WORKING TO HONOR HIM AND IT'S LONG OVERDUE.
THERE ARE 11 COLLECTIONS WE KNOW OF, OF MAJOR HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.
WE NOW HAVE THREE OF THEM HAVING ACQUIRED THE ITS FAVIAN AND COLLECTION.
AND I'M BRINGING A LITTLE BIT OF THIS TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING.
HOPEFULLY WE WON'T BORE YOU TOO BADLY.
THIS USED TO BE THE COMMERCIAL CENTER OF TOWN.
THIS IS A SIGN FROM POOLE SHARP, WHERE THE MEXICAN FOOD RESTAURANT IS JUST UP THE ROAD WAS THERE WAS POOL SHERMAN.
THERE WAS BARNES AND JONES LUMBER ACROSS THE STREET FROM, IT WAS THE HIGHNESS STORE, WHICH USED TO BE IN BAGHDAD.
HE WAS THE FIRST GENERAL MERCHANT THAT MOVED TO LEANDER.
IT'S WHERE THE COMPASS BANK IS.
NOW LATER ON, IT WAS THE RED ONE.
THIS IS ONE OF TWO SIGNS THAT WE KNOW OF.
WHEN MR. HIGH-NET WHO RAN THE GENERAL STORE IN BAGHDAD MOVED TO LEANDER.
WE HAVE HIS OCCUPATIONAL TAX RECEIPT FROM THE FABIO ONES.
THE FIRST RECEIPT WE HAVE IS 1882 IT'S BAGHDAD, 1884 LEANDER.
SOMEBODY ASKED ME, WHEN DID HE MOVE IN 20 19 82 AND 84.
WE KNOW NOW THIS IS ONE OF FIVE OF THE GENERAL LEDGERS FROM 1872 FROM THE HIGH-NET STORE.
IT IS A WEALTH OF HISTORY OF WHO WAS HERE AT THAT TIME.
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THIS IS THE TITLE OF ABSTRACT FROM THE FABI AND FAMILY WITH BOBBY ON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS NAMED AFTER ADA MAYFAIR.AGAIN, THIS GOES BACK TO 1849.
WE HAVE TWO MORE BIG BOXES FROM THE FABI AND FAMILY.
WE'VE GOT SEVERAL BOXES FROM THE WALLACE STYLES COLLECTION.
WE HAVE SEVERAL BOXES FROM THE MASON HOUSE COLLECTION.
WE HAVE A EXCELLENT CHANCE OF GETTING FOUR MORE COLLECTIONS WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
WE THINK WE'VE GOT A SHOT AT AS WELL.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF STUFF FOR Y'ALL AND I'M SERVING NOTICE TO YOU THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME PLACES FOR THEM.
THAT'S EVERYBODY WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT.
[10. Staff Reports Water Update]
TO ITEM 10 STAFF REPORT, A CITY MANAGER, BEVERLY LYNN WILL PROVIDE US AN UPDATE ON OUR WATER.UH, TODAY WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS IN CHUNKS.
SO IS THAT THAT'S KINDA LOUD ACTUALLY LOUDER THAN USUAL.
SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THE SYSTEM USAGE AND TRENDS, AND SOME OF THE CURRENT CIP PROJECTS THAT WE THINK ARE, ARE GOING TO BE NECESSARY IN THE CRITICAL PATHWAY.
UM, EVEN WITH, UH, DEEP WATER INTAKE, PHASE TWO FOR BCR UI, I DID, I KNOW, KIND OF RE-INTRODUCING HIM.
UH, HE MAY NOT HAVE A WHOLE LOT, BUT DAN GRIMSBY, WHO WAS FORMERLY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OVER WATER AND WASTEWATER AND UTILITIES IN CORPUS CHRISTI, WHICH HAD A LOT OF OTHER CHALLENGES, NOT EXACTLY THE SAME, BUT ALSO, UM, RELEVANT.
THEY HAD SOME CHALLENGES TO THEIR SYSTEM.
HE'S BEEN HERE AS OF TOMORROW, IT'LL BE TWO WEEKS AND I'VE NEVER SEEN SOMEONE ATTEND THAT MANY MEETINGS AND ALSO READ SO MANY CONTRACTS IN SUCH A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO HE WILL BE FULLY ON BOARD WITH ALL OF OUR AGREEMENTS.
HE'S MET WITH SOME OF OUR OTHER PROJECT PARTNERS, UH, WITH THE BCR UA AND SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES AND HAS BEEN TOURING THE SYSTEMS AS WELL.
UH, NEXT I'D LIKE TO, UH, INVITE, UH, MS. GINA ELLISON UP.
SHE IS OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
AND, UH, EXCEPT WHEN SHE TESTS TEXTED ME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT ABOUT THE LEVEL OF THE WATER TANKS OR SOMETHING.
UH, BUT YES, BUT SHE WILL GIVE IT, SHE'LL START WITH THE OVERVIEW AND KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHICH MAY GIVE US AN IDEA KIND OF WHERE WE'RE GOING.
AND THERE ARE SOME TRENDS THAT I THINK ARE RELEVANT AND THAT, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT EVERYBODY'S MENTIONED FOR PURPLE PIPE TO IRRIGATION, TO, UH, CONSERVATION, TO LANDSCAPING AND ALL OF THE ABOVE, UH, COME INTO GREATER FOCUS, UM, TYPICALLY WOULD GIVE A WATER REPORT ONCE A MONTH.
AND I THINK I'M GOING TO START DOING THAT AGAIN, JUST SHOWING OUR GENERAL OVERALL USAGE, UM, WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE TRENDS ARE, YOU KNOW, REALLY GOOD TO WATCH AND KEEP AN EYE ON.
SO, UM, THIS GRAPH IS ONE THAT I USED TO REPORT ON QUITE A BIT, UM, OR ONCE A MONTH, BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IT THIS MONTH, UH, JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL THAT HAPPENED, UH, IN MAY.
SO MAY 1ST, THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY 1.4, 5 MILLION ACRE FEET IN THE TWO COMBINED LAKES OF TRAVIS AND MCCANNON.
AND BY JUNE 1ST IT WAS 1.5, 6 MILLION ACRE FEET.
SO OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND ACRE FEET, UM, FILLED THE LAKES, WHICH IS THE EQUIVALENT OF ABOUT 35 BILLION GALLONS OF WATER.
SO WE GOT A LOT OF RAIN AND IN MAY, SO THEY, THEY ALSO TREND OUT.
SO IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE ON THAT REALLY WET TREND, THEY, THEY WOULD PREDICT US TO FOLLOW THIS GREEN LINE, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRETTY STEADY FOR A WHILE.
MAYBE WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS MIDDLE BLUE LINE.
AND THEN IF, IF WE HAD SOME DRY CONDITIONS, IT WOULD COME DOWN THIS WAY IS THEIR PREDICTION.
SO SOME OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THIS SPREADSHEET FROM, UH, MIKE NEW AND SOME OF HIS UPDATES.
SO THIS IS TRACKING OUR WATER USAGE SINCE APRIL.
AND, UM, THESE YELLOW LINES ARE KIND OF OUR CRITICAL CAUTION LINES WHEN, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAD JUST SANDY CREEK ONLINE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS ABOUT NINE, 10 MILLION GALLONS.
WE START TO GET A LITTLE, A LITTLE NERVOUS.
AND THEN WE KIND OF HIT THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF APRIL.
AND THEN, UM, AS WE TREND THIS WAY, YOU CAN SEE WHEN
AND THEN OF COURSE THE TREND DOWN IN THE USAGE WHEN WE HAD ALL THE RAINS IN MAY AND THEN, AND THEN BACK UP HERE, UM, AS WE, THE RAINS HAVE TAPERED OFF.
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THIS RED LINE WOULD BE KIND OF OUR MAX AT SANDY CREEK.AND THEN THIS IS OUR TOTAL MAX AT ABOUT 22 AND A HALF MILLION GALLONS.
AND THAT'LL GO UP TO ABOUT 27 MILLION WHEN BCRF IS FULLY ONLINE, THEY'RE STILL DOING SOME FREEZE DAMAGE REPAIRS.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT 20, 22 AND A HALF IS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE CAPACITY RIGHT NOW AT THIS MOMENT.
AND THEN ADDING IN THE HEAT AND THE RAINFALL, YOU CAN REALLY SEE HOW THE WATER USAGE KIND OF TRENDS WITH, YOU KNOW, THIS PEAK HERE, AND THEN THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE WATER USAGE, THEN IT PEAKS UP HERE, BUT YOU CAN SEE MAYBE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF RAINFALL, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND THEN, UM, WHERE IN MAY, WE WERE A LITTLE BIT WARMER, BUT WE ALSO HAD QUITE A BIT, THIS BLACK LINE IS THE, IS THE RAINFALL.
SO THE HEAT DIDN'T AFFECT US AS MUCH, UM, BECAUSE OF THE, BECAUSE OF ALL THE RAIN AND THEN THIS TOWARDS THIS LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS WHERE WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD ANY RAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TRENDING UPWARD AND WE HAD OUR PEAK DAY YESTERDAY AT 11 AND A HALF MILLION.
SEE, UM, YES, I GUESS ONE THING TO POINT OUT TOO IS WITH SANDY CREEK'S MAXIMUM CAPACITY THAT ALSO UNDERSCORES KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN USAGE AND TOTAL MILLION GALLONS A DAY BEING UP AROUND 11, THAT IF WE DID NOT HAVE BCR UA ONLINE, WE WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH AT THE MAXIMUM THAT SANDY CREEK WE'RE AT 11 AND A HALF HERE, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT, WITHOUT THAT SUPPLEMENT FROM
AND THEN, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE STARTED WELL, I'VE ALWAYS TRACKED IT, BUT WE KIND OF GRAFTED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE 20, 20, UM, MONTHLY WATER USAGE IN RED, AND THEN IN, IN THE BLUE IS THE 2021.
SO YOU CAN SEE, WE WERE TRACKING PRETTY CLOSE, BUT REMEMBER WE WERE IN CONSERVATION HERE WITH BCRF WAY DOWN.
WE WEREN'T ALLOWING OUTDOOR IRRIGATION EXCEPT BY HAND.
SO WE WERE STILL AT OR ABOVE, UM, USAGE LEVELS IN THOSE FIRST FOUR MONTHS.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE WE'VE TURNED IT DOWN WITH ALL THE RAIN IN MAY.
SO WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED TO SEE THESE SUMMER MONTHS AND, AND WITH OUR ORDINANCE, WE'RE HOPING TO REALLY SHAVE OFF THIS BIG JUMP, UM, THAT WE SEE IN THOSE JUNE, JULY, AUGUST, AND SOMETIMES SEPTEMBER MONTHS, EXCUSE ME.
IF WE WERE TO SEE THE SAME SORT OF TREND JUNE, JULY, AND AUGUST THIS YEAR, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO HANDLE THAT WITH THE CURRENT RESTRICTIONS YET WITH THE RESTRICTION ON CASTILLON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH OUR, WITH OUR CONSERVATION ORDINANCE WHERE WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT ANSWER IS, IS YES.
AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH BOTH PLANTS ARE ONE, RIGHT.
WE HAVE, WE WOULDN'T EXPECT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I HAD TO TAKE A GUESS, WELL, THE NEXT SLIDE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, THE PEAK DAY, RIGHT.
IS WHAT WE PLAN FOR AND WHAT WE, THE PLANTS ARE DESIGNED FOR.
SO, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WE PEAKED IT AT ABOUT 17 IN AUGUST.
SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE JUMP UP TO SAY 18 OR 20, I MEAN, THERE'S SUFFICIENT.
I SHOWED YOU ON THE PREVIOUS ONE, WE HAVE 25, RIGHT.
1227, SORRY, 27 MILLION GALLONS BETWEEN
SO, YEAH, WE'RE STILL, UM, SO GOING BACK TO THE PEAK DAY, UM, SIMILARLY OBVIOUSLY WE WERE, YOU KNOW, PEAK DAYS WERE IN GENERAL THE SAME HERE.
UM, WE WERE LOOKED SLIGHTLY HIGHER IN APRIL AND THEN WAY DOWN, LIKE SIGNIFICANTLY, ALMOST 3 MILLION GALLONS, LESS IN MAY.
UM, SO AGAIN, WE'RE HOPING TO, TO KEEP IT ON THE SAME, YOU KNOW, IN THE SAME RANGE HERE.
ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF THE NEW PHASES BASICALLY GET RID OF THE PEAK DAY.
ARE WE SEEING, BECAUSE YOU SAID YESTERDAY WAS 11 AND A HALF, WELL, WE'VE ONLY BEEN IN PHASE TWO SINCE THE BEGINNING OF JUNE, OR END OF MAY, RIGHT.
AND THAT'S GOING TO GET TO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO ENFORCEMENT AND EDUCATION.
UM, I CAN, I CAN CHECK ON THAT.
I'M NOT WITH ALL THIS RAIN IT'S BEEN REALLY.
UM, BUT YES, YESTERDAY WAS OUR PEAK OR LAST NIGHT HAS, WAS OUR PEAK.
SO I'LL, I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE.
ONE THING THAT WE CAN KIND OF GLEAN FROM IT IS THAT WE WERE AS LOW AS LIKE FIVE AND A HALF MILLION GALLONS A DAY DURING THE RAIN.
AND SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE, WE'VE MORE THAN DOUBLED IT.
AND SO I THINK THE TREND IS SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WILL SEE INDICATE THAT THAT DOUBLING IS IRRIGATION.
SO, SO I HAVE ON THIS ONE KIND OF SHOWS WHAT WOULD BE LIKE A MICRO LEVEL OF THE CITY, RIGHT? SO, UM, IN THE LIGHT BLUE, THIS WOULD BE THE JANUARY USAGE SOMEWHERE IN, YOU KNOW, 3 MILLION OR SORRY, THREE, 3000, 4,000 GALLONS.
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THESE ARE SAMPLE HOUSEHOLDS.SO I ACTUALLY TOOK THIS LIVE DATA FROM, FROM OUR BILLING SYSTEM.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SEEING THREE AND FOUR AND SOMETIMES FIVE TIMES MORE WATER USAGE IN THE SUMMER MONTHS.
UM, AND THEN LOOKING EVEN SOMEWHAT SCARIER IF SOME OF OUR HIGHEST SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT USERS, UM, THE BIGGEST ONE WE HAD IS OVER 300,000 GALLONS A MONTH.
SO, SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE, WE'RE HOPING TO REIGN THOSE, THOSE PEOPLE IN, AND WE HAVE SOME IDEAS, UM, IT ESPECIALLY WORKING WITH DAN.
UM, I KNOW WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT AMI AND HE'S ON BOARD.
HE SAID HE FORGOT SARAH AND GINA.
WE ALSO HAVE THE RATES STUDY COMING BACK TOO.
AND THAT, AND THERE'S SOME OPTIONS ON THAT, RIGHT? SO I, I DON'T WANT YOU TO GLANCE OVER, BUT IF, IF SOMEONE'S USING A 300,000 GALLONS IN A MONTH, UM, THAT'S REALLY EXCESSIVE.
AND WE WOULD BE VISITING, UH, INCORPORATES 30,000 WAS EXCESSIVE.
UM, MOST OF THE PEOPLE USE BETWEEN FIVE AND SEVEN, LIKE 80% USE BETWEEN FIVE AND 7,000 GALLONS, UM, PER, PER MONTH ONLY.
UM, I WAS ONE OF THOSE WHEN I WENT OVER AND I PAID A BILL OF $300, YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT THAT WAS, OH MY GOD.
UM, GINA TOLD ME THAT BILL FOR THAT ONE WAS $1,600.
AND THEN THAT'S GREAT FOR, I GUESS, INCOME IN A WAY.
BUT, UM, WITH THE SITUATION, THOSE THREE ALONG THAT LINES, YEAH.
THAT IS NOT THE DIRECTION THAT ANY CITY, I DON'T THINK WANTS TO GO, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH WATER.
CAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO REALLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYMORE.
NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD ANY MORE LAKES.
UM, CAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE SUPER HARD TO DO.
AND THEN GROUNDWATER IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE.
SO THAT'S KINDA LIKE YOU CAN'T BUILD LAND ANYMORE.
WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO ALSO BUILD WATER, UM, TILL WE GET TO THE EXTREME.
SO, UM, CONSERVATION OR THE CHANGING OF THE CONCEPTS OF IRRIGATION IS, NEEDS TO BE THOUGHT THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO GLANCE OVER THAT BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
HE COULDN'T, HE COULDN'T BELIEVE HE CALLED ME AS SOON AS I SENT.
HE'S STILL TELLING ME THIS IS IN GALLONS, RIGHT? IT'S NO, IT'S GOT THE TOP 25 USERS IN JUNE.
I THINK THAT THREE AND A HALF MILLION GALLONS JUST RESIDENTIAL USERS.
SO IT'S, IT'S PRETTY SHOCKING.
SO THAT KIND OF LEADS ME TO MY LAST SLIDE OR MY LAST COUPLE OF SLIDES ABOUT CONSERVATION.
UM, OUR PERMIT SYSTEM ALLOWED US TO GO BACK TO 2014.
SO SINCE 2014, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S GAINED ABOUT 50,000 PEOPLE.
UH, THEY'VE CONSTRUCTED ABOUT 10,500 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND THEY'VE PROCESSED NOT NECESSARILY FOR THOSE, BUT PROBABLY 9,700, UH, IRRIGATION PERMITS.
SO, YOU KNOW, EVERY HOUSE HAS A SPRINKLER, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IN A WAY COULD MAKE IT EASY TO TARGET.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN SET THEIR SPRINKLERS, BUT AS LONG AS WE GET THEM SET, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHY WE HIT THE CONSERVATION IN OUR ORDINANCE.
SO, SO HARD TO TARGET THOSE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. AND TO REALLY, LIKE JASON SAID SMOOTH THAT PEAK DAY WHERE WE'RE GETTING HIT PRETTY HARD ON WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY KIND OF GOES BACK TO AN OLD ORDINANCE.
UM, THIS ONE, HOPEFULLY WE'LL, WE'LL SMOOTH IT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.
AND THEN MIKE NEW PUT TOGETHER THIS REALLY NICE GRAPHIC.
SO IT MAILED OUT TO EVERYBODY.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S ABOUT EDUCATION AND, AND ENFORCEMENT HONESTLY, UM, IS TARGETING THOSE HIGHER, HIGHER USERS.
GINA, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THAT OTHER ONE UP THE NEXT ONE? OH, THE, WITH THE HEAD, THE PERCENTAGE OF, UH, OR HAD THE TOTALS OF IRRIGATION PERMITS VERSUS SINGLE FAMILY.
SO TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, IT'S NOT THAT JUST, WE WENT FROM 32,000 POPULATION TO 80 IN THAT SEVEN-YEAR PERIOD HITS THAT SINCE THAT TIME, 90% OF ALL THE HOMES PERMITTED HAD IRRIGATION ASSOCIATED.
AND IF YOU GO BACK PRIOR TO THAT, I PAID COMPARED TO THINGS.
BUT I REMEMBER MY GRANDPARENTS LIVING OFF A FARMER IN THE SEVENTIES, UH, NOTHING THAT CAME IN AT THAT TIME HAD IRRIGATION.
THE, SO THEY'RE BUILDING PRODUCTS CHANGE.
IT'S CHANGED IN THIS REGION SPECIFICALLY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN REACHING BACK OUT TO, UH, THE FOLKS WITH HBA.
I MEAN, WE, WE NEED TO WORK COOPERATIVELY ON SOME ALTERNATIVES BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW MANY PARTNERSHIPS WE ENTER BCR UA, OTHERS, AND WE'RE EXPLORING OTHER PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER CITIES LONG-TERM IS AT THAT GROWTH RATE AT THAT GROWTH RATE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD PLAN FOR THAT.
YOU WOULD, WHATEVER NUMBER YOU'D PLAN FOR YOU'D NEED TO DIT THEN DOUBLE IT AGAIN.
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AND THEN THAT WILL BE THAT MUCH MORE DEBT LOAD FOR THE CITIZENS MOVING FORWARD FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE EITHER.SO, SO I CAME FROM CORPUS AND, UH, WE HAVE WATER ISSUES THERE AND THAT'S WHY DIESEL IS SUCH A HOT TOPIC IN CORPUS CHRISTI RIGHT NOW.
UH, BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVE THERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S RESIDENTIAL THERE IT'S INDUSTRY, AND YOU CAN GET AN EXXON WHO CAME IN AND SAID, I WANT 25 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
WELL, THAT'S A WHOLE CITY, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
SO WE HAVE 98,000 CONNECTIONS IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND, UH, MEANING, UH, BILLABLE CONNECTIONS, WATER CONNECTIONS.
AND WE ONLY HAVE 17,000 IRRIGATION, RESIDENTIAL IRRIGATION SYSTEMS IN THE, IN THE CITY, WHICH IS ABOUT 33,200 PEOPLE.
SO YOU HAVE ABOUT 80,000, YOU HAVE ABOUT 23,000 CONNECTIONS ACCORDING TO GINA.
AND, UM, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT, WE ALREADY HAVE 10,000 URINATION SYSTEMS. UM, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT HALF OF YOUR CONNECTIONS ARE YOUR
SO AGAIN, I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GLANCE OVER THOSE NUMBERS AS THE CITY MANAGER WAS ALSO POINTING OUT, UH, THIS IS KIND OF THE FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
I WAS GOING TO PASS TO ELLEN HERE.
SHE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF OUR CIP PROJECTS ABOUT WATER AND, UM, I'LL LEAVE IT TO HIM.
I MEAN, I CAN COME BACK FOR QUESTIONS OR QUESTIONS NOW.
I CAN COME BACK WHEN SHE'S DONE.
GO AHEAD AND WAIT AND SEE AT THE END.
UM, AND I WAS JUST GONNA TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, UH, PRETENDING TO WATER.
UM, THE RECENTLY COMPLETED ONES THAT WE HAVE, UM, THE KAUFFMAN LOOP, ELEVATED STORAGE TANK, WHICH SUPPLIES WATER TO THE NORTHEAST CITY SECTOR DID, DID WE HELP THE, THE MAP? OH, OKAY.
UM, LET'S SEE THE, UH, HERE, LET ME USE THE, OKAY, SO THAT'S THE KAUFMAN KAUFMAN LOOP, ELEVATED STORAGE TANK, THE BCR YOU A SANDY CREEK WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND OUR CAT CONNECT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S ON THE MAP.
UM, AND THEN THAT CRYSTAL FALLS, GROUND STORAGE TANK, WHICH IS DOWN HERE.
SO THOSE ARE RECENTLY COMPLETED.
UM, CRYSTAL FALLS ADDED ONE MILLIGRAM OF A 1 MILLION, 1 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER STORAGE FROM SANDY CREEK, A WATER TREATMENT PLANT, UM, THEN, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN PROGRESS RIGHT NOW, UM, ARE THE BAGHDAD BCR YOU A 24 INCH, UH, CONNECT, WHICH IS RIGHT DOWN HERE AND THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW SHOULD BE FINISHED IN AUGUST.
SO THAT'S GOING TO CONNECT FROM THE CEDAR PARK.
UM, WATERLINE I SAYING THAT RIGHT, REDUCES DEMAND ON THE SANDY CREEK WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
UM, THEN THE SAN GABRIEL PUMP STATION IS FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES FINISHED, UM, THAT CREATES NEW PRESSURE PLAIN AND ADDS REDUNDANCY.
UM, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT PROJECT IS THE 24 INCH WATER LINE THAT'S GOING ALONG SAN GABRIEL, UM, UH, AND THAT'S ABOUT 49% COMPLETE AND SHOULD BE FINISHED IN SEPTEMBER.
UH, AND THEN THE SAN GABRIEL EAST ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IS IN THE SAME LOCATION RIGHT HERE.
UH, AND THAT PROVIDES 1.2, 5 MILLION GALLONS OF STORAGE TO LOW PRESSURE PLAINS THAT'S IN CURRENTLY IN DESIGN.
UM, THEN WE HAVE, UM, SORT OF COMING UP, WE HAVE, UM, THE SANDY CREEK WATER TREATMENT PLANT SLUDGE PROCESSING, WHICH ALLOWS SANDY CREEK WATER TREATMENT PLANT TO OPERATE AT 12 MGD.
UM, AND THAT ONE, I THINK WE'RE NEGOTIATING A CONTRACT RIGHT NOW WITH THE, WITH THE CONSULTANT AND THE TERMINUS PUMP STATION AND GROUND STORAGE TANK.
NUMBER TWO, THAT'S AT THE BACK AT THE, UH, UH, GO, GO BACK TO THE, UM, YEAH, THANK YOU RIGHT DOWN HERE.
THERE THERE'LL BE ANOTHER STORAGE TANK ADDED IN A PUMP STATION.
UM, AND OTHER PENDING PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ARE, UH, SANDY CREEK WATER TREATMENT,
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PLANT EXPANSION, THE BCR, A PHASE ONE D RAW WATER LINE, THE RONALD REAGAN GROUND STORAGE TANK AND PUMP STATION AND SOME WATER AGREEMENTS.SO HAVE A LOT OF THINGS OUT THERE, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP.
THANK YOU JUST TO FILL IN SOME OF THE DATA ON THAT.
ALL THE PROJECTS WE'VE BEEN DOING, THAT SHE HIGHLIGHTED ARE THE ONES THAT ARE, HAVE BEEN DESIGNED TO INCREASE OUR FLOW ACROSS THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.
WE'VE GOT THE WATER SUPPLY ISSUE, AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM ISSUES.
WE'RE WORKING ON THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.
THE SANDY, THE SAN GABRIEL 24 INCH WATER LINE IS TO WANTING TO GET WATER FROM BCR YOU WAY BACK ACROSS TOWN TO THE WEST.
I REALIZE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT MAKES ANY SENSE, BUT THAT'S THE WAY THE SYSTEM IS SET UP.
THE BCR UA INTERCONNECT DOWN BAGHDAD STREET IS GOING TO HELP PROVIDE WATER DIRECTLY TO THE CRYSTAL FALLS TANK AND THEN TO THE SANDY CREEK PLANT AND THE WE CAN HELP PROVIDE OUT TO TREVISO.
SO THESE ARE ALL WORKING TO MAKE THE OVERALL SYSTEM BETTER.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE OTHER PROJECTS TO INCREASE OUR WATER PROCESSING.
UH, THE BCR DUA, THE PHASE ONE C WORK IS DONE.
UH, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE STARTING UP ON MONDAY.
THAT'LL BRING THEM UP TO A 20 MILLION GALLON A DAY CAPACITY.
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN PRODUCING THAT MUCH.
THEY HAVEN'T NEEDED THAT MUCH RIGHT NOW.
THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR PHASE ONE D HOWEVER THERE'S CONCERNS BECAUSE OF THE FAILURE OF THE RAW WATER LINE, ABOUT THE ABILITY OF THAT LINE TO HANDLE THE PRESSURES.
THERE'S QUESTIONS, LEGAL ISSUES ABOUT POSSIBLY PUTTING IN ANOTHER WALL, RAW WATER LINE, PARALLEL TO IT.
WE'VE GOT TO GET THOSE RESOLVED.
THESE ARE ALL DIFFERENT LITTLE THINGS THAT ARE BEING WORKED ON.
AS RICK SAID, WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBOR CITIES FOR LOOKING AT THE WATER THAT'S CAPABLE OF BEING PRODUCED IS NOT BEING USED.
UH, FUTURE PROJECTS IS OUT AT RONALD REAGAN, SOME GROUND STORAGE TANKS TO HELP PROVIDE WATER OUT ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WATER AGREEMENTS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT AT THE RETREAT NEXT MONTH, BUT THAT'S, IT'S CONSISTENTLY BEING WORKED.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO PRODUCE AND DISTRIBUTE WATER AT THIS TIME.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THEY WOULD LIKE TO ASK? JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION THAT YOU START TO SAY BLOOD PRESSURE, THE WATER PRESSURE.
THE WATER PRESSURE ISSUES THAT CAUSES OUR BLOOD PRESSURE TO RISE.
UM, WELL, ANY OF THESE ADDRESS THAT YES, THEY DO HELL.
NOW THE ISSUE OF LOW WATER PRESSURE IS KIND OF A SUBJECTIVE ONE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE USED TO HAVING THAT WATER SHOOT OUT LIKE A FIRE HOSE.
AND IF IT DOESN'T DO THAT, THEY GET UPSET AS LONG AS IT STAYS ABOVE 20 PSI.
THE TCQ REQUIRES THAT WE DO A BOIL WATER.
NOTICE OF PRESSURE GETS BELOW 20.
SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE DOING OKAY ON THE WATER.
IT MAY NOT FLOW AS FAST AS YOU'D LIKE, BUT IT STILL FLOWS AND IT MEETS THE STATE REQUIREMENTS.
I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH MORE DETAIL, BUT ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WOULD ADD BECAUSE OF THE RAPID GROWTH RATE, THAT SEVERAL OF THESE ITEMS ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO BE ACCELERATED BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN NEEDED AS SOON, QUITE SIMPLY.
UM, WHEN YOU HAVE YEAR OVER YEAR DOUBLE DIGIT GROWTH, THAT MEANS YOU'RE TECHNICALLY SITTING IN A FEW.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE SITTING IN, I DON'T WANT TO GET BACK TO THE FUTURE, BUT YOU'RE SITTING IN A FUTURE YEAR AT THAT POINT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A TEAM OF ENGINEERS THAT ARE, ARE, ARE WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANTS.
THEY'RE WORKING WITH PARTNER CITIES AND WE'VE GOT ONGOING DIALOGUE.
AND I THINK THE NEXT, I THINK THE RETREAT WE'LL HAVE, UM, WE COULD EASILY HAVE PROBABLY AN HOUR DISCUSSION ON IT.
COUNSEL, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA,
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UH, ITEMS 11 THROUGH 30 COUNCIL.SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY MOVING INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
ITEM 31 HAS BEEN POSTPONED BY THE APPLICANT.
[32. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning 21-Z-014 to amend the current zoning of MF-3-A (Multi-Family) to create the Blake’s Bend Minor Planned Unit Development (PUD) with base zoning MF-3-A (Multi-Family) on one parcel of land approximately 4.102 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R599058; and more commonly known as 520 Powell Dr., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-014 as described above.]
30 TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ZONING 21 Z[02:00:01]
0 1 4, TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OFUM, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT FIVE 20 POWELL DRIVE.
THIS SAYS ZONING CASE WE'LL CREATE THE BLAKE'S BINNED MINOR PUD.
THE PURPOSE IN THE PUD IS TO UPDATE THE MASTER REQUIREMENTS.
UM, OUR ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT WHEN YOU EXCEED EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE, YOU ADD MASONRY TO THE BUILDING IN THIS SITUATION.
UM, WE DID A SITE PLAN WHERE THEY HAD A NOTE REQUIRING THE MASTERY.
WHEN THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION, THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE THE MASONRY AND STAFF MISSED IT.
THE FIRST SIX BUILDINGS LOCATED HERE ON THE SCREEN, THOSE HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED, AND THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, STAFF DIDN'T FEEL CONFIDENT IN APPROVING THE REMAINING BUILDINGS BECAUSE WE'RE AWARE OF THE ERROR.
SO WE FELT LIKE IT HAD TO GO BEFORE THE, THE COUNCIL.
SO OUR SUGGESTION IS, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CURRENT STANDARD, WITH THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE CASE WAS REVIEWED BY THE COMMISSION DURING THE MAY 27TH MEETING.
AND THEY DID APPROVE THE REQUEST TO F WITH THE FIVE TO ONE VOTE.
AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
ELECTION IS GOOD TO PUT FACES TO THE NAMES AND THOSE SIGNS I'VE BEEN DRIVING BY FOR WEEKS.
UM, THIS IS JUST PUSH THE BUTTON.
SO THIS IS THE REMOTE AND YOU PRESS THAT CENTER ARROW.
UM, I'M RYAN JACKSON, UH, WITH DAN AND REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THIS IS THE BLAKE'S BEEN TOWNHOME PROJECT.
THIS IS A, UH, AN IMAGE OF THE SIX EXISTING, UH, FOURPLEX BUILDINGS, UM, THAT ARE THERE TODAY.
UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE, UH, OVERVIEW OF, OF WHERE WE'RE LOCATED.
UM, YOU SEE, BLAKE'S BEEN THERE AT THE CORNER OF PAL DRIVE, UH, IN HORSESHOE.
UM, THAT'S THE SITE, UM, THAT IS, UH, IN DISCUSSION TONIGHT, UM, ACROSS THE WAY WE'RE INVOLVED IN, UM, TWO OF THOSE OTHER PROJECTS, GRANTED HEIGHTS AND MAYA TOWNHOMES, WHICH WE'LL BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION, UH, THIS YEAR.
AND THEN WE KIND OF SHOW THE LEANDER CIRCLE DIAMOND PROJECT, WHICH IS AN EXISTING DUPLEX PROJECT.
UM, WE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH OTHER THAN TO SHOW YOU SORT OF THE ARCHITECTURE THAT'S GOING ON IN THAT LOCATION.
UH, ROBIN SHOWED IT A WHILE AGO, BUT THE SIX, UH, UNITS AT THE BOTTOM ARE THE SIX THAT ARE EXISTING.
AND THEN THERE ARE 12 ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS, UM, THAT, UH, ARE VERY NEAR PERMIT TODAY.
SO THIS IS THE RENDERING THAT WAS SUBMITTED ON THE LEFT, UM, WITH THAT APPROVAL FOR PHASE ONE AND THEN TO THE RIGHT IS WHAT IS BUILT THERE WITH PHASE ONE.
UM, SO AGAIN, THERE'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER VIEW OF IT.
UH, AND THEN ON THE RIGHT, SHE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE MASONRY REQUIREMENT, UM, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID, WHAT AT THE BOTTOM, THE BOTTOM LINE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE IS COHESIVENESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO CONTINUE TO BUILD WHAT IS ALREADY BUILT WITH THOSE THOSE SIX, UM, THOSE SIX UNITS, THOSE SIX BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT.
SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS.
UM, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'LL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION ITEM REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 0 1 4 AS DESCRIBED ABOVE COUNSEL.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY COMMENTS AND I'LL MAKE A COMMENT JUST THAT THIS, OBVIOUSLY THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT IF IT WAS CAUGHT EARLIER AND WE HAD SOMETHING WITH SOMEBODY IN AN ORDER, BUT IT WASN'T.
AND SO I THINK IN FAIRNESS TO THE PROJECT, I THINK IT'S, UM, IT DOES NEED TO LOOK THE SAME.
IT WOULD LOOK FUNKY IF IT WAS YOUR BACK FOUR UNITS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I'D PROBABLY BE GOING DIFFERENTLY ON THIS, BUT IT IS RIGHT WHEN YOU DRIVE IT UP TO THE PROJECT.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE, UH, STAFF BRINGING THAT TO US AND EVERYTHING TOO, BUT THIS, THIS IS A COMMON SENSE ONE.
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MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.[33. Discuss and consider action on the Second Reading of an Ordinance regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-007 to amend the current zoning of LC-2-B (Local Commercial) to Minor Planned Unit Development with base zoning of LC-2-B (Local Commercial) on four parcels of land approximately 11.41 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R031692, R463160, R511663, and R511665; and generally located at the northwest corner of the intersection of South San Gabriel Parkway and Halsey Drive, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.]
TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, ITEM 33, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 Z 0 0 7, TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF LC TO BE LOCAL COMMERCIAL, TO MINOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH BASE ZONING OF LC, TO BE LOCAL COMMERCIAL ON FOUR PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 11.41 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA PLANNING DIRECTOR GRIFFIN.THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE ZONING CASE.
UM, SINCE THE LAST MEETING WE HAVE PROVIDED UPDATED PUD NOTES, THE
UM, IT ALSO INCLUDES A PROHIBITION AGAINST HAVING A DRIVEWAY ACCESS, UM, TO HALSY, UM, UNLESS IT'S NEEDED FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES.
UM, WE DID PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE COUNCIL.
THE PUBLISHED HEADNOTES DID SAY IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS BUILDING AND THE INTENT WAS FOR IT TO ONLY BE BUILDING SETBACK AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANY PRESENTATION WITH THIS? WE'RE GOOD.
I DO HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS SIGNED UP TONIGHT.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MELISSA NORMAN, UM, 1821 CROSS STRAW TRAIL.
AND AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, UM, IN FAVOR OF HOPE ALLIANCE, BEING ABLE TO MOVE INTO, UM, OUR LEANDER COMMUNITY.
UH, LAST TIME I WAS UP HERE SPEAKING ABOUT MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND TO REMIND YOU, UM, THIS YEAR IS MY 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY, UM, UH, FREEDOM FROM EMOTIONAL AND PHYSICAL ABUSE, UM, AND HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE HAYES COUNTY WOMEN WOMEN'S CENTER IN SAN MARCUS.
UM, I WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HAVE GOTTEN THE HOPE, UH, NECESSARY, UH, TO FIND THE COURAGE TO FINALLY, UM, THE COURAGE TO OUTWEIGH THE FEAR THAT I HAD OF LEAVING THE SITUATION THAT I WAS IN.
UM, THIS NOT ONLY HELPED ME, UM, FIND COURAGE AND TO CHANGE MY LIFE, BUT IT ALLOWED ME TO CHANGE MY CHILDREN'S LIVES BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE NEVER PHYSICALLY ABUSED, THEY DID HAVE SOME EMOTIONAL ABUSE.
AND IT WAS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME WHEN THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM.
AND IN WHEN IT WAS MADE OBVIOUS TO ME, BY PEOPLE WHO SAW IT, THAT I COULDN'T SEE, CAUSE I WAS TOO CLOSE TO THE SITUATION TO REALIZE WHAT WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN.
IT WAS BECAUSE I KNEW THAT MY KIDS WERE ALSO, UM, NOW POSSIBLY GOING TO BE VICTIMIZED, UM, GAVE ME THAT COURAGE HAYS COUNTY WILLIAMS CENTER IN SAN MARCUS HELPED ME DO THAT.
UM, AND IT PROVIDED ALL KINDS OF THINGS TO ME, BUT THE ONE THING THAT IT COULD NOT PROVIDE ME AND MY FAMILY OR MY CHILDREN WAS SHELTER.
SO 10 YEARS AGO, IT WAS A 100% TURNING PEOPLE AWAY, PACKED FACILITY.
UM, SAME PROBLEM EXISTS TODAY WITH HOPE ALLIANCE HERE IN ROUND ROCK.
UM, THEY'RE TURNING AWAY PEOPLE WHO ARE IN GREAT NEED OF THEIR SERVICES.
UM, I TREMENDOUSLY WOULD, UM, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
PLEASE ALLOW THE LEANDER, UH, LEANDER TO BE THE NEW HOME OF HOPE ALLIANCE SO THAT OTHERS LIKE MYSELF AND MY CHILDREN CAN FIND THE SAME COURAGE AND SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED TO START A NEW LIFE FREE OF ABUSE.
THANK YOU, MELISSA WALSH, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MY NAME IS MELISSA WALSH AND I LIVE AT 9 0 5 ARVADA DRIVE, LEANDER, TEXAS.
UM, MY FIRST POINT IS I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS WAS INCORRECTLY POSTED.
UM, IT SAYS ON HERE THAT, UM, NUMBER 33, IT SAYS IT'S ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY.
IT'S NOT SOUTH SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY.
IT'S JUST SAYING GABRIEL PARKWAY.
MY SECOND POINT IS, UM, I AM ALSO A SURVIVOR OF DOMESTIC ABUSE AND I'M A BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN LEANDER AND I ALSO AM A CITIZEN OF LEANDRA AND I OPPOSE HOPE ALLIANCE,
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UM, FOR THE LOCATION THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BUY.UM, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO WHAT THEY DO.
UM, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE THAT THERE IS NO REAL ZONING FOR THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS, BUT IF THERE WERE TO BE, IT WOULD BE GENERAL COMMERCIAL, LIKE A HOTEL, LIKE A RETIREMENT FACILITY OR A NURSING HOME.
AND WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOUSE, I BOUGHT IT KNOWING THAT LOCAL COMMERCIAL WOULD BE IN FRONT OF MY SUBDIVISION.
UM, ALSO, UM, THEY FILED FOR AN EXTENSION AFTER THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING BEFORE THE FIRST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UM, THEY NOTED IT WAS TO REACH OUT AND SPEAK WITH SAVANNAH RANCH.
UM, WE REACHED OUT TO OUR CITY COUNCIL OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS.
AND THIS HAS BEEN OUR FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS AS WELL, THAT THEY'VE BEEN REACHING OUT TO US AND TRYING THEY HAVE NOT, THEY HAVE NOT CONTACTED OUR HOA.
THEY HAVE NOT CONTACTED MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, ALSO WE DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD TURNOUT LAST TIME.
AND THAT WAS BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SAID THEY THOUGHT THEIR FIRST VOTE, WHICH WAS THE ONE FOR PLANNING AND ZONING, WHICH WAS 180 SOMETHING NOS TO 20 SOMETHING YESES.
UM, THEY THOUGHT THEIR ORIGINAL VOTES COUNTED AND FOUND OUT THAT THEY DIDN'T.
UM, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO MENTION, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT THIS LOCATION BECAUSE THEY CAN GET A GOOD DEAL ON IT.
THEY COULD GO DOWN THE STREET WHERE GENERAL COMMERCIAL IS ZONED.
IT JUST COSTS THEM MORE MONEY.
SO THIS WHOLE POINT IS NOT ABOUT DO THEY DO A GOOD BUSINESS? LIKE LET'S HAVE THEM BE HERE.
YES, THEY ARE GREAT, BUT THEY DON'T BELONG IN THIS ZONING.
AND, YOU KNOW, I BOUGHT MY LAND KNOWING THAT.
AND I FEEL LIKE IF YOU GUYS CHANGE THAT, THAT YOU'VE NOW LIED TO US.
I WAS TOLD IT WAS LOCAL COMMERCIAL GOING THERE AND BY YOU GUYS CHANGING IT, IT'S ALIVE.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, TIM.
BARCEL 9 0 5 TABERNASH DRIVE IN LEANDER, TEXAS IN SAVANNAH RANCH AS A TAX PAYING RESIDENT.
I STRONGLY OPPOSED THE ZONING CHANGE.
NO SUBDIVISION SHOULD HAVE ANY TYPE OF SHELTER IN FRONT OF IT BEING THE FACE OF THEIR SUBDIVISION.
THERE'S PLENTY OF PROPERTY FOR SALE IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
LET'S NOT FORGET WHY WE'RE HERE.
WE'RE HERE FOR A ZONING CHANGE.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO PARADE PEOPLE UP HERE BEFORE THE BOARD, UM, AND PUT ON A SPECTACLE, PUT ON A SHOW.
WE'RE HERE FOR A ZONING CHANGE.
ANOTHER THING THAT WAS NEVER, EVER BROUGHT UP WAS A SCHOOL BOARD.
WHAT DOES THE SCHOOL BOARD THINK ABOUT THIS? OKAY.
THE SCHOOL BOARD, AS FAR AS I KNOW, HAS NEVER BEEN CONTACTED.
BROWN, I BELIEVE AT THE FIRST MEETING SAID THAT HE WAS GOING TO GET BACK TO US ON WHAT THE SCHOOL BOARD'S STANCE ON.
THIS WAS NEVER HEARD A WORD ABOUT IT.
GABRIEL, RIGHT BY THE RAILROAD TRACKS THERE NEAR THE HOSPITAL, I THINK, UH, NEAR THE HOSPITAL WOULD BE SUITED BETTER FOR THIS INSTEAD OF IN SAVANNAH RANCH.
UM, WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT OF, UM, UH, ENERGY AND WATER, UM, WORD OR COT WANTS US TO SET BACK OUR THERMOSTATS, THE 78 DEGREES AND CONSERVE ENERGY.
IF THERE WAS A SMALL STRIP MALL THERE, INSTEAD OF THIS ONGOING, UM, HOPE ALLIANCE, THE BUSINESSES WOULD PROBABLY BE SHUT OFF AT NINE, 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
HOPE ALLIANCE IS GOING TO BE GOING 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS A YEAR.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THERE.
UM, ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP WAS SECURITY.
UM, WHERE YOU HAVE LITTLE KIDS IN THE AREA, THERE WAS A PARK RIGHT THERE.
MY MEAN, I'M A GRANDPA ALREADY.
I WOULDN'T FEEL SAFE HAVING MY KIDS OR MY GRANDKIDS GO INTO THAT PARK WITH HOPE ALLIANCE.
OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS NEED TO REALIZE AND RECOGNIZE THE PAYING RESIDENTS OF LEANDER AND NOT THE PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE LEANDER THAT ARE COMING UP HERE, SINGING THE PRAISES OF HOPE ALLIANCE.
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HI, I'M LAUREN.HILLARY WAS DRIVE AND I'M HERE AGAIN TO SPEAK AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE AGAIN AND LET I'M OPPOSED TO IT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE HERE RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND I FEEL, I FEEL LIKE I'M WASTING MORE OF MY TIME, BUT I'VE GOT TO DRIVE IT AGAIN.
I HAVE SENT IN ALL MY POSTCARDS.
I HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE MEETINGS.
I'VE SENT EVERY POINT OF VIEW IN EMAIL.
UM, AND DESPITE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD VOTING AT PLANNING AND ZONING, 182 AGAINST FIRST 24, WE'RE STILL HERE.
I WANT TO KNOW WHY THIS HASN'T BEEN LOOKED INTO FURTHER BY THE CITY AFTER SUCH AN OVERWHELMING OPPOSED RESPONSE.
UM, I HONESTLY HAD, IT FEELS LIKE A DECISION WAS ALREADY MADE.
AND IS, ARE WE JUST HERE BECAUSE IT'S A FORMALITY.
LIKE I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THIS EVEN MATTERS.
I'M AN ACTUAL PAYING LEANDER RESIDENT.
I'M BEING TOLD TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO ACCEPT THE BURDEN AND CONSEQUENCES THAT COME WITH IT.
BLINDLY, WE DON'T HAVE A GATE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO KEEP ANYBODY OUT IF ANYONE, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO PARK RIGHT NEXT TO OUR PARK.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE THERE FOR THEY'RE OUR NEIGHBORS OR THEY'RE AT THE PARK FOR THE KIDS, OR IF IT'S, SOMEBODY'S WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO LEAVE BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS AT THIS FACILITY CAN GO, COME AND GO AS THEY PLEASE.
AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PRIVATE.
AND YOU WERE ELECTED BY US, NOT THE RESIDENTS FROM ROUND ROCK PFLUGERVILLE, CEDAR PARK, GEORGETOWN, AUSTIN, ALL THE OTHERS IN THE VARIOUS CITIES COUNTIES, STATES THAT THIS FACILITY WILL HELP.
I KNOW IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WERE ELECTED TO THE SEATS, WILSON TO US.
UM, AND THE NEXT ELECTION WE'LL REMEMBER THAT I'M ALSO REALLY SICK OF THE VILIFICATION OF MYSELF AND MY NEIGHBORS.
THIS IS NOT A MEETING ON WHETHER HOPE ALLIANCE HELPS PEOPLE OR NOT.
UH, THIS IS A MEETING ABOUT A ZONING CHANGE AND, UH, IT AFFECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MY STREET, ESPECIALLY, AND THE PSYCHOLOGICAL MANIPULATION THAT I WITNESSED WAS KIND OF DISGUSTING.
AND I FEEL LIKE THE SURVIVORS WERE EXPLOITED.
THEY TURNED TRAUMATIC STORIES INTO PROPAGANDA TO GET AN EMOTIONAL RESPONSE AND VOTE AND TRYING TO CHANGE OUR MINDS OF THEIR EXPENSES.
AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CAN'T PRESENT THE FACTS, ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS AND RELY PURELY ON THAT.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT AND TRUST ANYTHING THEY SAY WHEN THEY HAVE NONE FOR US AND AT THE P AND Z MEETING, A DISTURBING COMMENT WAS MADE BY SOMEBODY, UH, FROM THERE THAT SAID THE, THE RESIDENCES WERE FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED IT MORE DESPERATELY THAN ANY PERSON WHO SIGNED UP FOR, OR AGAINST BEADED TO THEIR RESIDENCE.
SO I JUST, I HOPE YOU CAN LISTEN TO US THIS TIME AND I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND
JEFF WINKLEMAN NAME AND ADDRESS.
UH, I'M JEFF WINKLE 9 0 9 ARVADA.
UH, I'LL START WITH, UM, I SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT THEY JUST SAID, I WOULD SAY.
AND I'M PROBABLY ABOUT TO SAY PRETTY MUCH THE EXACT SAME THING.
THIS IS THE FEELING OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR COMMUNITY.
SO, UH, SEEMS LIKE ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT COUNCIL HAS BROUGHT UP PREVIOUSLY AND, UM, UH, UH, UH, I'M SORRY.
UH, I'LL JUST STICK IT IN THE NOTES.
IT SEEMS LIKE ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IS SAFETY.
I'VE HEARD HOW HOPE ALLIANCE ADDRESSES INTERNAL SAFETY OF HOPE ALLIANCE.
AND THEIR CEO HAS TOLD US HIS MAIN MEANS OF SECURITY.
IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, OR, UH, UH, HIS MAIN MEANS OF SECURITY IS A BUTTON UNDER HIS DESK.
WHERE'S OUR BUTTON UNDER OUR DESK,
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NOBODY IN CITY COUNCIL OVER, AND I'VE WATCHED THE VIDEOS FROM THE LAST FEW MEETINGS.NOBODY ADDRESSED OUR SECURITY.
I'M SURE THEY HAVE PROCEDURES.
UH, STATESMAN.COM AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN ARTICLE WRITTEN SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2016, UPDATED SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2018.
AND I'LL I'LL BEFORE I SAY THIS, UH, I'LL PREFACE THIS, THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY THING THAT ANYBODY HAS TOLD US IS, WELL, AS LONG AS THE ADDRESS IS NEVER GIVEN OUT, THEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THERE AND YOU GUYS ARE SAFE.
UH, SALLY BARDWELL IN AN ARTICLE.
SO, UH, WHO IS THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS ADMINISTRATOR OR USED TO BE FOR HOPE ALLIANCE SAYS IN THE ARTICLE, HOPE ALLIANCE HAS THROUGH THE GREATER ROUND ROCK COMMUNITY FOUNDATION RECEIVED A DONATION OF TWO ACRES OF LAND.
UH, CONNOR CONNOR SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHO CONNOR IS, BUT, UH, SAID THE NEW SHELTER WILL BE BUILT NEXT TO THE ROUND ROCK SERVING CENTER, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 10 99 EAST MAIN STREET.
SHE SAID THE NEW SHELTER WHEN IT'S BUILT WILL BE A SECURE FACILITY AND ITS LOCATION WILL NOT BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL.
SO WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE AN ARTICLE FROM A WHILE AGO SAYING THAT, UH, AND WE JUST GOOGLED THIS, THIS ISN'T THAT HARD TO FIND.
THIS IS NOT THEIR CORRECT ADDRESS, THEIR INCORRECT ADDRESS.
CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
MY ADDRESS IS 8 4 0 HILARY ROSE DRIVE.
UM, I DID NOT RECEIVE WRITTEN, MAILED NOTICE NOR DID THE PRIOR RESIDENT.
UM, ALSO I WAS EXCLUDED FROM THE BOUNDARY LINE.
IF YOU LOOK AT IT CLOSELY, IF YOU MEASURE FROM, UH, FROM, UH, WHERE THE LOCATION OF THE POST CENTER IS TO MY HOUSE, I'M ABOUT 140 FEET.
SO I DID NOT RECEIVE A NOTICE.
THERE'S SOME OTHER MENTIONS OF NOTICED THAT I WANTED TO ALSO MENTION THAT THERE WAS NO A FILING OF A, UM, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACH STATEMENT.
THAT WAS A LITTLE ALARMING TO ME.
THERE WAS HOWEVER, A COMMUNICATION SUMMARY OF COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNICATIONS.
AND IT, IF YOU READ THROUGH IT, PLEASE DO IT'S, IT'S LINKED EVERYONE.
UM, IT SPECIFICALLY REFERENCES, UM, SAVANNAH RIDGE AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT ALSO MAKES REFERENCE TO ANOTHER HOA BE NOTIFIED.
WELL, NOT HUNDREDS OF YARDS, QUITE A WAY SOUTH OF US.
IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY IT'S, IT'S CONCERNING.
UM, THERE, THE HOA, THE NOTIFICATION TO US CAME, SOME OF US RECEIVED.
I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING, BUT SOME OF US RECEIVED A, AN EMAIL FROM, YOU KNOW, THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE HOA.
UM, BUT IT WAS POSTED ON A FACEBOOK PAGE.
MANY OF US WERE NOT EVEN SUBSCRIBED TO.
IF YOU ALSO LOOK AT THE COMMITTEE OUTREACH, IT'S SUPPOSED TO LIST ALL THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF EVERYONE.
THAT'S NOTIFIED, NOT A SINGLE NAME OR ADDRESS AS LISTED ON THAT.
THAT WAS, LISTEN, I, MYSELF AM A VICTIM.
I WAS A VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER.
AND, UH, MY, MY HEART REACHES OUT TO ALL THE VICTIMS. WE NEED A CENTER LIKE THIS.
I HOPE WE CAN FIND A CENTER LIKE THIS HERE, UH, IN A PLACE WHERE IT HERE IN LEANDER.
UM, I WORKED AT THE IOWA COALITION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UH, 12 YEARS AGO.
UM, WHEN I WAS IN LAW SCHOOL, IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST FORMATIVE EXPERIENCES OF MY LIFE.
I SUPPORT YOU, I SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
UM, AND, UM, I'VE, I'VE DONATED A HOME HOPE ALLIANCE.
UM, BUT WE DID PUT THE BRAKES ON THIS BECAUSE SOME PROCEDURAL ASPECTS OF THIS, YOU KNOW, TH TH TH DID NOT GO THROUGH.
IN FACT, I'M RATHER UPSET BECAUSE WHILE I DIDN'T GET NOTICE, UM, A LOT OF THE SUPPORTERS OF HOPE ALLIANCE DID RECEIVE FLYERS TO 2,400 FLYERS IN WHICH SAVANNAH RANCH NEIGHBORHOOD, THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THROWN UNDER THE BUS, UM, REFERRED TO AS, UM, BASICALLY BEING AGAINST, UH, AGAINST HOPE ALLIANCE.
AND, AND YOU WERE TO TWIST, UM, TWIST EVERYTHING THEY STAND FOR, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE.
I SUPPORT HOPE LINES AND WHAT THEY DO, BUT I DON'T SUPPORT MY NEIGHBORHOOD BEING DENIGRATED.
PERHAPS IT CAN STILL BE BUILT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT LET'S STOP.
LET'S TALK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.
I SPOKE WITH THE PRINCIPAL OF ONE HIGH SCHOOL HASN'T BEEN CONTACTED.
UM, I SPOKE WITH, UH, DANIELLE,
I JUST WANT TO SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, FAMILY, UH, FOR MY KIDS, YOU KNOW,
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THEY PLAY IN THAT PLAYGROUND ACROSS THE STREET.I'D LIKE TO KNOW THERE MIGHT BE AN ENTRANCE, YOU KNOW, ON, ON, ON HALLS.
UM, THEY SAY THERE WON'T BE, BUT THAT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THERE'S A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS I STILL HAVE.
SO PLEASE, PLEASE GIVE US MORE TIME, AT LEAST SO WE CAN LOOK AT THIS.
I SUPPORT, UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, VIOLENCE VICTIMS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO GO A LITTLE OVER TIME.
YOU'RE NOT, I'M NOT GOOD TIMING.
UH, PATRICIA SANDERS, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I AM NOT OPPOSED TO HOPE ALLIANCE COMING TO A LAND, OR, BUT I AM SAYING THAT MY NEIGHBORS AND I HAVE BEEN MADE TO LOOK LIKE VILLAINS FOR OPPOSING REZONING THE PROPERTY IN FRONT OF SAVANNAH RANCH.
I DID A GREAT DEAL OF RESEARCH BEFORE MAKING MY DECISION TO BUY MY HOME.
I PURCHASED IT KNOWING THE PROPERTY WAS ON LIGHT COMMERCIAL, AND I WAS FINE WITH THAT.
HAD I KNOWN ABOUT ME LIVING NEXT TO A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTER.
BROWN SAID THE FACILITY WILL BE FENCED WITH THE GATE CAMERAS, A GUARD, POSSIBLY A POLICE CAR PARKED OUT FRONT AND OTHER FEATURES.
HE SAID THE RESIDENTS ARE FREE TO COME AND GO.
SO THIS SECURITY IS TO KEEP THEIR ABUSERS OUT.
HE IS ANTICIPATING ABUSERS, TRYING TO GET TO THEIR VICTIMS. ABUSERS WHO HAVE ATTACKED BEFORE, AND FOR WHATEVER REASON ARE FREE TO ATTACK AND OR INTIMIDATE THEIR VICTIMS. AGAIN, MY QUESTION TO COUNCIL IS WHO WILL DEFEND THE RESIDENCE OF SAVANNAH RANCH OR BENBROOK OR DEERBROOK? WHERE ARE OUR OFFENSES ARE GATES CAMERAS AND GUARDS THAT PROPOSE 96 RESIDENTS OF HOPE ALLIANCE WILL FINALLY HAVE A PLACE TO SLEEP AT NIGHT WITHOUT FEAR OF ATTACK OR INTIMIDATION.
BUT BY ALLOWING THIS FACILITY, THIS CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, YOU'VE TAKEN THAT SECURITY AWAY FROM US IN OUR FAMILIES.
MY HUSBAND WAS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR MORE THAN 35 YEARS AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALLS WERE THE MOST DANGEROUS CALLS HE RESPONDED TO.
IN FACT, 2019, US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE REPORT SHOWED THAT 40% OF OFFICER DEATHS ARE RELATED TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALLS.
BROWN STATED THAT PROPERTY VALUES NEAR THEIR FACILITY IN ROUND ROCK HAVE RISEN IN SYNC WITH SURROUNDING AREAS.
LET ME REMIND YOU THAT FACILITY IS UNDISCLOSED POTENTIAL BUYERS DO NOT KNOW OF ITS EXISTENCE.
PHARMA COUNSEL, WOMAN SPAWN, SELLER INDICATED SHE RESEARCHED AND FOUND NOTHING ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES ASSOCIATED WITH DEATHS, DOMESTIC ABUSE, SHELTERS, OTHER TYPES OF SHELTERS.
AGAIN, I REMIND YOU THE OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF DOMESTIC ABUSE SHELTERS ARE UNDISCLOSED.
NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THIS WILL DO TO OUR HOME VALUE.
YOU'RE WILLING TO TAKE THE CHANCE ON MY INVESTMENT INSTEAD OF PUSHING THIS THROUGH LET'S PAUSE AND WORK WITH HOPE ALLIANCE, TO FIND A MORE SUITABLE LOCATION.
ONE WHERE THEY, THE RESIDENTS OF HOPE ALLIANCE AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS ALONG HALL C WILL BOTH SLEEP BETTER AT NIGHT.
LET'S WORK WITH THEM TO FIND AN AREA THAT IS ZONED CORRECTLY AND CLOSE TO THE SERVICES.
THEY NEED PLANNING AND ZONING APPROVED THIS TO GO FORWARD.
BUT THE VOICES OF OUR RESIDENTS WERE NOT HEARD.
WE OVERWHELMINGLY EXPRESSED OUR VIEWS AGAINST THIS AND P AND Z, AND WE WERE IGNORED COUNCIL'S JOB TO LISTEN TO BOTH SIDES OF AN ISSUE WITH AN UNBIASED EYE WITHOUT DEMISSE DISMISSING OUR CONCERNS AND DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER FOR ITS RESIDENTS.
PLEASE GIVE US THE RESIDENTS THE SAME RESPECT YOU'RE GIVING THE VICTIMS AT HOPE ALLIANCE.
WE ARE CONCERNED FOR OUR WELFARE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE WANTED, OH, SORRY, MISSY.
UH, MISSY BOYCE, UM, MISSY BOYCE AT 8 48 HILL ROSE DRIVE.
I WANTED TO USE MY TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE F WORD IT'S FOR A LITTLE WORD THAT HAS BEEN USED IN A LOT OF WEIRD WAYS.
OVER THIS PAST YEAR, THIS EFFORT MEANS DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
WE ALL STAND HERE AND EXPRESS COUNTLESS WAYS IN WHICH AND WHY WE DON'T FEEL SAFE.
LIVING NEXT TO A FACILITY WITH SURVIVORS FROM THE MOST VIOLENT OF SITUATIONS ARE FEAR.
WHEN YOU GO TO VOLUNTEER AT HOPE ALLIANCE, THE POLICY BOOK STATES IN BLACK AND WHITE, THAT IT'S A DANGEROUS TO WORK THERE.
LIONS PERSONNEL MUST BE AWARE OF THE POSSIBLE THREAT OF VIOLENCE FROM CLIENTS, FAMILIES, MEMBERS, AND OTHER PERPETRATORS OF VIOLENCE.
SAFETY PROCEDURES MUST BE STRICTLY FOLLOWED, BE AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS AND OF PERSONS YOU MEET WHILE PERFORMING YOUR JOB DUTIES.
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HOW DOES THIS NOT APPLY TO THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THIS BUSINESS? YOU ARE FORCING US INTO THIS VERY REAL SITUATION.THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING THAT WAS POSTPONE A COUPLE OF DAYS PRIOR, UH, THERE WAS A SHOOTING IN THE ARBORETUM, BUT SHOOTING WAS AN ABUSER GOING AFTER HIS FAMILY, THREE PEOPLE SHOT AND KILLED THE GUNMAN FLED, AND THERE WAS A WALK DOWN.
AND THIS IS WORTH BRINGING UP BECAUSE THAT'S THE FEAR THAT WE FEEL IT'S NOT FAKE.
YOU HAVE INCREASED THE RISK LEVEL FOR OUR FAMILIES.
THERE IS A HIGHER CHANCE OF DANGEROUS PEOPLE WANTING TO KEEP AN EYE ON THIS AREA OF LEANDER WITH THIS BUILD.
I KEEP HEARING HOW THE FACILITY WILL FOLLOW CODE FOR SECURITY AND SHOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
AND I SHOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
GREAT, WELL, THAT CODE IS ESTABLISHED TO KEEP HOPE ALLIANCE AND THEIR SURVIVORS SAFE.
SHOW ME THE CODE THAT WILL KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SAFE.
TELL ME THERE WILL BE A WALL THAT WILL BLOCK THE LINE OF SIGHT TO DETER INDIVIDUALS, TO STALKING ON HOLIDAY.
SHOW ME THE LEANDER POLICE PATROLMAN.
THAT'S GOING TO BE PATROLLING FOR SUSPICIOUS INDIVIDUALS.
IF A FULLY VISIBLE CENTER IS BETTER THAN AN UNDISCLOSED ONE, TELL ME WHY.
TELL ME WHY YOU SHOULD FEEL SAFE, BUT DON'T DISMISS ME AS SOMEONE WITH IRRATIONAL FEARS.
THIS DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T LIKE CHANGE THE WAY I FELT DURING THE LAST MEETING.
DON'T TELL ME, DON'T TELL THE APPLICANT THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS.
IF THEY ARE NOT VALID AS IF THEY ARE NOT VALID.
I AM UP HERE REPRESENTING MYSELF, MY HUSBAND AND MY TWO SONS AGES SIX AND 14.
IT IS MY JOB AS A PARENT TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS AND TO DEMAND BETTER FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO INCREASE MY CHANCE OF HAVING MY FAMILY IN LOCKDOWN OR GOD FORBID EVEN WORSE DUE TO AN ARMED PERSON HANGING AROUND.
THIS IS A VERY REASONABLE THING TO WANT AS A PARENT.
AND I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.
JEN, HEATH, HAVE YOU CALLED IN? GIVE IT A MINUTE.
WELL, WE HAVE A MINUTE WHILE I READ THESE OUT, YOU CAN TRY.
UM, PEOPLE WHO HAVE REGISTERED THEIR, UM, VIEWPOINT AS FOUR AND WANT IT READ INTO THE RECORD.
SHAY TOWER, EMILY, SHERRY AND CALEB LARSON.
THOSE WHO HAVE REGISTERED AGAINST MARK PHILLIPS.
PAUL JOSEIS, CHRISTINA JEFFERS, JUSTIN LEACH, STEPHANIE WELCH, DANIELLE VREELAND, CLIFTON GRANT, ASHLEY SHOESMITH ERIC SHOESMITH EMILY GRANT.
ANTHONY MARTINEZ, JESSICA MARTINEZ AND NAND KRISHNA GETTY, PAULETTE NEWTON, ALISON FERRIS, SHERRY BOVARD RICH BOVARD HEATHER BENNETT.
AMANDA ROSENSTIEL DAVID BUTLER.
PATRICIA KATE'S LOIS BARSOL KIM KINDLING, LAKSHMI, GETTY, MEGAN COBURN AND MCCURDY.
MATTHEW MCCURDY, JORDAN MIGUEL HORN, CANDACE BRANDT MICHELLE LYNCH, CAROL LYNCH, EDINA CARDINEZ NICHOLAS CARDINEZ.
NATE CARDINEZ DAVID CARDENAS, MARY BARBERA, ALYSSA VASQUEZ, MICHAEL GIBBS, GLORIA GIBBS, PETER CLOUDERA, TRAVIS WITHERSPOON.
JODY WITHERSPOON WAS HE TOLD GEORGE STEVE HAINES.
VALERIE ESCOVAL ANTHONY RODRIGUEZ.
GINGER, ALL MILLER, TOMMY CAMPBELL, MICHAEL BOYCE, JEANETTE EL BONFIGLIO.
VANOVER JASLYN BLACKER B EDDIE GARDNER, ADAM STINSON, JOEL RICE, JESSICA RICE, RYAN LAZO, CHRISTOPHER ALVAREZ, PATRICE HERNANDEZ.
MICHELLE MCMINN, DANIEL HERNANDEZ.
DANA HERNANDEZ, ALANA HERNANDEZ.
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DELCIA MELENDEZ, JAIME COHO, JOE CASTRO, ALYSSA KLUFT AND STEIN.COLIN CLIFTON STEIN, CRUZ COHO.
JEN ANDERSON, KATIE CALDWELL, KELLY RAFFERTY, ZOE PRATT, ANDREA DILATORY, ROBERT PRATT, KRISTEN WELSH PORTER, JODI OLIN, KELLY WELCH, JENNIFER JOHNSON, BRETT JOHNSON, ARMANDO ZUBIN, SHANE ANDERSON, ROBERT HEATH LEWIS PORTER, ROBERTO ORTIZ, ZUBIN, KOBE WELSH PORTER.
ANTHONY MARTINEZ, JAMES T. MICHAEL HORN.
THE THIRD DEBBIE CAMPBELL, JASON OHADA, LAUREN, SIMILAR BRIAN, SIMILAR RICARDO COHO AND SCOTT WILSON.
THAT'S EVERYBODY THAT HAS REGISTERED AN OPINION.
AND WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? YES, PLEASE.
UH, LIST YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THEN WE NEED YOU TO FILL OUT A CARD FROM THE LOBBY.
THANK YOU, SHERRY AND ALLEN, I RESIDE AT 1004.
HILLBROW STRIVE AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
UM, AGAIN, MY NAME IS SHERRY AND ALAN AND MY FAMILY RESIDES 1004 HILL ROSE DRIVE.
AND I'M HERE BECAUSE WE OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THE LAND IN FRONT OF SAVANNAH RANCH SUBDIVISION.
AGAIN, I SAID TO HOPE ALLIANCE.
I THINK YOUR PURPOSE PROPOSED OUTREACH FOR A TEMPORARY EMERGENCY SHELTER AND COUNSELING CENTER WILL PROVIDE A GREAT SERVICE AND IT'S BENEFICIAL TO THOSE IN NEED.
HOWEVER, THE LOCATION IS NOT SUITABLE.
THE WORD TEMPORARY EMERGENCY SHELTER STRIKES ALARM BELLS FOR US, THE RESIDENTS OF SAVANNAH RANCH, AS THERE'S INSURMOUNTABLE RAMIFICATIONS WITH HAVING SUCH A FACILITY NO LONGER SECLUDED IN PRIVATE LOCATED RIGHT ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
WE, THE RESIDENTS OF SAVANNAH RANCH HAD BEEN PAINTED AS UNCARING, RUDE AND INSENSITIVE TO THE PLIGHT OF THOSE SEEKING REFUGE FROM THIS PROGRAM.
WE ARE NOT AGAINST THE PEOPLE WE ARE FOR HOPE ALLIANCE.
WE ARE AGAINST THIS LOCATION, THIS TEMPORARY SHELTER SIGNIFIES COME ONE, COME ALL WHICH WILL OPEN UP DOORS FOR ABUSIVE TO INFILTRATE THE AREA.
WHEN EACH OF YOU ARE CHOOSING WHERE TO LIVE, YOU TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE NEIGHBORHOOD STATS, SCHOOLS, ACCESSIBILITY, CRIME RATE, FAMILY, AND FRIEND AREA, ET CETERA.
WOULD YOU BUY A HOME THAT IS BACKED UP TO AN ABUSIVE SHELTER? WOULD YOU BUY A HOME KNOWING THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT, DRUGS, POTENTIAL SHOOTING ALTERNATION BETWEEN PATIENTS AND SIGNIFICANT OTHERS, YOUR FAMILY'S SAFETY WOULD COME FIRST.
THIS ENTIRE REZONING PROCESS PROCESS SEEMS TO BE MORE ABOUT MONEY AND FAVORS.
I FIND IT VERY DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE IN THE ENTIRE WILLIAMSON COUNTY, AND THERE'S NOT A BETTER SUITED LOCATION FOR THIS, UM, THIS, UM, SHELTER.
HAVING ACCESSIBILITY TO THE METRO SHOPPING AND SCHOOLS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED BY A HOPE INVESTED IN THEIR OWN TRANSPORTATION AND SHUTTLE SERVICE.
KNOWING CRIME CAN BE TAKE PLACE ANYWHERE.
HOWEVER, TO HAVE A SHELTER BUILT IN SUCH A CLOSE PROXIMITY IS A DISRESPECT TO US.
THE RESIDENTS HOPE, WANTS TO PITCH US AS BEING INSENSITIVE TO THE VICTIMS. WE ARE NOT INSENSITIVE WEIRD INGREDIENT OF FINDING SUITABLE LOCATION.
WE NOW HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BECOMING STATISTICS OURSELVES.
THIS MAKES US THE VICTIMS IN OUR OWN HOMES.
WELL WITH ALL THE ICE UNDER SHELTER, NOW YOU HAVE TWO SETS OF VICTIMS. THOSE HOPE ALLIANCE HELPS AND US.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S A FAIR TRADE OFF IF YOU APPROVE THIS REZONING, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'LL BE TELLING US.
OUR RIGHTS TO FEEL SAFE AND SECURE IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS THE RIGHTS OF THE VICTIMS TO GET HELP.
ALSO, PLEASE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE NEW CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY LAW THAT IS SET TO GO INTO PLACE IN SEPTEMBER, WHICH WOULD ALLOW ONE TO CARRY.
AND THAT IS ALSO A POTENTIAL RED FLAG.
UM, I SAID HE, SECRETARY WILL TALK TO YOU.
I LIVE AT 1 0 3, 2 MADISON DRIVE.
UM, I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, UH, WROTE OUT FOR YOU,
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BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW IS THAT I'VE DONE MY OWN RESEARCH.I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN ANY OF THE ZONING AND UM, ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I DID GO THROUGH ALL OF ROUND ROCK COUNCILS HEARINGS ON HOPE ALLIANCE.
I WANT TO BRING SOMETHING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
IF WE HAD MORE TIME, I'D PLAY IT FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
THIS WAS THE ITEM ON THEIR, ON THEIR AGENDA.
CONSIDER PRESENTATION FROM CB.
C D B G STAFF ON ALTERNATE PROJECTS THAT CAN BE RECOMMENDED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
IN THE CASE, THERE ARE IN THE CASE, THERE ARE UNSPENT C D B G 2011, 2012 FRIENDS.
ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS ON THERE WAS PROJECTS BEING PROPOSED REHABILITATION OF A HOMELESS FACILITY FOR HOPE ALLIANCE.
MY QUESTION TO THE COUNCIL IS WHAT ACCOUNTABILITY IS THERE THAT WE HAVE SPENT WEEKS TALKING ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS A PROBLEM.
IT'S A PROBLEM IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, I'M SH LET ME TAKE THAT BACK.
YOU PROBABLY KNOW SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN A VICTIM.
I DON'T HAVE TIME TO TELL YOU MY STORY OR THE STORIES I'VE HEARD.
THERE'S NOBODY IN THIS ROOM TONIGHT THAT IS DENYING.
WE DON'T NEED SOME SERVICE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THAT WHAT IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT IT STAYS ONLY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WHEN THERE WAS SOMETHING ON A ROUND ROCK CITY COUNCIL FOR HOMELESS, FOR A HOMELESS PROJECT.
NOW I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT, BUT I AM GOING TO GO THROUGH WHAT I DID SCREENSHOT.
THIS WAS THE PRESENTATION, GO BACK AND WATCH THE PRESENTATION OF THEM.
THE PRESENTATION SLIDES SAID THIS HOPE ALLIANCE, FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS REHAB FOR A HOMELESS SHELTER.
THE REHAB WILL INCLUDE INSTALLATION OF AN AUTOMATIC SECURITY FENCE AT THE FRONT OF THE SHELTER, INSTALLATION OF METAL PLATING TO THE BACK FENCE FOR ADDED REINFORCEMENT INSTALLATION OF SIX METAL DOORS AT THE SHELTER CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW DRIVEWAY.
THAT'S EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR SIX WEEKS.
AND THIS IS PROPOSED FOR A HOMELESS REHAB SHELTER.
I DON'T HAVE TIME TO TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS APPROVED OR NOT, BUT CITY COUNCIL, IF YOU GO BACK AND WATCH THOSE, THERE IS A LOT OF CONVERSATION HAPPENING ON WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING ON.
THE RESEARCH THAT I HAVE DONE STATES, EVERYTHING SHOWS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
LET'S HELP THEM FIND SOMEWHERE THAT WORKS TO SUMMARIZE A COUPLE OF OTHER POINTS.
LEANDER ISD HAS NOT BEEN NOTIFIED.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE LOT THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO L I S D HAD THAT LAND.
HAVE THEY USED THAT LAND? THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO NOTIFY LSD, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE SKIPPING ONE ACRE OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN L I S D TO NOT HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED, I'VE TALKED TO A REALTOR.
THE REALTOR SAYS L I S D ACTUALLY OWNS SOME OF THIS UNDEVELOPED LAND OVER HERE.
I'M NOT SURE THE PROXIMITY TO IT, BUT IT DOES RAISE A QUESTION OF WHAT CONCERNS IS LSD GOING TO HAVE THE LAST POINT THAT I WANT TO BRING UP.
IF YOU GO THROUGH THEIR DOCUMENTS, IT ACTUALLY SAYS BOMB THREATS ARE SOMETHING THAT COULD HAPPEN.
IF THEY GO INTO A LOCKDOWN FOR A BOMB THREAT, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT GLEN HIGH SCHOOL? HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? AND MY LAST POINT, BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT.
IT'S FOR THE KIDS, K GUYS, THE KIDS, THEY RUN AROUND OUR BLOCK FOR THEIR PE LIKE THIS BLEND LETS THE STUDENTS RUN AROUND OUR BLOCK.
THIS IS THEIR, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
MS. ALVAREZ, DO I NEED YOU TO FILL OUT A CARD? ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM COUNSEL.
I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR ROBIN GRIFFIN IF SHE DIDN'T MIND.
I KNOW IN THE LAST MEETING, A REPRESENTATIVE OF HOPE ALLIANCE MENTIONED THAT SOME OF THE REASONS FOR PICKING THIS LOCATION WAS PRICING, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE WALKABILITY OF THE LOCATION.
BUT I DRIVE BY THERE QUITE OFTEN.
AND I DON'T FIND THAT IT IS VERY WALKABLE.
UM, IT IS MAYBE TO GLEN AND MAYBE TO DANIELSON, BUT DEFINITELY NOT TO THE ELEMENTARY, NOT TO THE TRANSIT THAT THEY MENTIONED AND DEFINITELY NOT TO HEB.
UM, JUST IN FACT, DO THE SIDEWALKS.
SO WHAT HAVE THEY PRESENTED TO YOU GUYS TO HELP OUT, ALONG OR TELL US WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS SITUATION? BECAUSE I JUST DON'T SEE HOW IT IS VERY WALKABLE WITHOUT THAT.
SO WE HAVEN'T, UM, RECEIVED A PROPOSAL ABOUT, UM, SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS TO HPV OR OTHER FACILITIES.
BUT WHEN THEY COME IN AND DO THEIR SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EXTEND A SIDEWALK ALONG SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY AND JOSE.
AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT
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THE TRAFFIC.HAS THERE BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT'S BEEN COMMISSIONED OR IS THERE ONE IN THE WORKS? UM, BECAUSE THERE IS CONSIDERABLE TRAFFIC THERE, ESPECIALLY FROM SEVEN TO NINE IN THE MORNING, FOUR TO SIX IN THE EVENING, YOU COULD BE WAITING AT THAT FOUR WAY, STOP SIGN A REALLY LONG TIME.
AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING, I KNOW, I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED THAT IT WON'T BE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT PER SE, BUT JUST THE EMPLOYEES, BUT HOW MUCH TRAFFIC WOULD THAT NECESSARILY ADD OR ESTIMATE? SO, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE PROJECT, WHEN THEY COME IN AND DO THEIR SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THE TRIP GENERATION.
SO THAT'S WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC AND IF A TIA IS REQUIRED.
AND THEN, UM, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS ONE.
HOW ABOUT THE SECURITY, UH, THAT THEY BROUGHT UP, UM, AT WHAT POINT WITH THAT FACILITY BE IT FULL CAPACITY? IS THAT IN THE INFORMATION PRESENTED TO YOU? SO I, I WOULDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, BUT I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE THAT COULD ANSWER.
I THINK UP THERE HE IS RIGHT THERE UP TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.
RICK BROWN CEO, HOPE ALLIANCE.
THE PLAN TO BUILD A FACILITY WITH 96 BEDS IS A PLAN TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO CLIENTS FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS OF GROWTH IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE A FACILITY THAT HAS 30 BEDS AND WE BELIEVE THAT WITHIN A YEAR OR A YEAR AND A HALF PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE 60 BEDS FILLED, BUT THE 96 BEDS IS A TEN-YEAR PLAN.
AND THEN MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION ALSO.
UM, AND JUST REMIND ME, I WAS AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT MAYBE I MISSED ALL THAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE SECURITY.
SO THE FACILITY, I, FROM WHAT I CAN UNDERSTAND TAKES PEOPLE IN BY REFERRAL IS ACT CORRECT.
NOBODY IS WALKING UP TO THE FACILITY SAYING I NEED ASSISTANCE.
UM, WE HAVE A HOTLINE WE RECEIVE ABOUT 2,800 CALLS A YEAR FROM, UH, THROUGH OUR HOTLINE AND OUR CRISIS CHAT.
UH, WE DO A TRIAGE OF THOSE CALLS IN THOSE CHATS ABOUT A THOUSAND OF THOSE 2,800 RECEIVED DIRECT FACE-TO-FACE SERVICES AND ABOUT 350 OF THOSE RECEIVE SERVICES IN OUR TEMPORARY LODGING.
AND FOR THE SECURITY, IS IT GOING TO BE 24 HOURS SECURITY OR IS IT OKAY? YES.
THE I'M GOING TO ASK AN OPPOSITE QUESTION.
WOULD WE ONLY PROTECT OUR PEOPLE FOR EIGHT HOURS A DAY? I DUNNO WHAT YOU WOULD DO.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING AND OUR FOLKS 24 7, 365.
AND WHAT DOES, I KNOW YOU CAN'T GO INTO SPECIFICS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT SECURITY THAT'S BAD, JAN BADGE OUT TYPE OF SITUATION.
EVERY SECURITY MEASURE THAT WE'VE TAKEN SO FAR HAS, UM, BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE.
AND A LOT OF THE FOLKS HAVE MENTIONED THE SECURITY ISSUE.
A LOT OF TIMES IT'S BEEN ANSWERED A LOT OF TIMES THIS PIECE OF INFORMATION, IF YOU'RE WILLING FOR ME TO SHARE, UM, HASN'T BEEN SHARED BEFORE, UH, WE DID AN OPEN RECORDS REPORT WITH THE ROUND ROCK POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ASK HOW MANY INCIDENTS HAVE OCCURRED AT OUR SHELTER THAT THEY'VE RESPONDED TO OF ANY TYPE.
AND THEY WENT BACK TO JANUARY OF 2015 AND FROM JANUARY, 2015 TO THE END OF APRIL OF THIS YEAR, THERE WERE 38 INCIDENCES.
THREE OF THEM WERE UNFOUNDED, 25 WERE INCIDENCES WHERE A CLIENT CLAIMED THAT ANOTHER CLIENT MIGHT HAVE STOLEN SOMETHING AND RESOLVED.
AND NONE OF THE INCIDENCES WERE INCIDENTS OF VIOLENCE.
AND WE'RE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA OF ROUND ROCK.
OFFICER WHO PULLED THAT OPEN RECORDS REPORT FOR US FROM THE ROUND ROCK POLICE DEPARTMENT SUGGESTED THAT WE DO A SIMILAR OPEN RECORDS REPORT FOR INCIDENTS IN, UH, IN, UH, SAVANNAH RANCH FOR THE SAME TIME PERIOD.
AND WE DID, AND THE NUMBER WAS 1,433.
SO WE THINK WE COMPARE VERY FAIR FAVORABLY AS FAR AS INCIDENTS ARE CONCERNED.
AND CAN YOU REMIND ME ONE MORE TIME, HOW MANY ENTITIES WERE USING, I KNOW YOU WERE HAVING, UM, CASEWORKERS AND, UM, MAYBE SOCIAL WORKERS THAT WOULD BE IN THE BUILDING.
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JUST TO REMIND ME? OH, UM, THE COLOCATORS YEAH.UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY COUNTY ATTORNEY, UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES FROM THROUGHOUT WILLIAMSON COUNTY, A MENTAL HEALTH AGENCY, A, UM, ANTI-HUMAN TRAFFICKING AGENCY, ASIAN FAMILY SUPPORT SERVICES AND, UM, A SANE NURSING PROGRAM.
I JUST HAD, UM, ONE MORE QUESTION FOR CHIEF MINT.
WE CAN'T HAVE SPEAKING FROM THE GALLERY.
I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACT YOU BELIEVE WOULD BE TO THE LANDER POLICE DEPARTMENT BY HAVING A LOCATION LIKE THIS IN OUR CITY, IN OUR AREA, LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS LAST TIME THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR THE HOPE ALLIANCE AND WHAT THEY DO, AND JUST THE SAME THING WITH US THAT THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE ARE INVALUABLE AS FAR AS FOR, FOR THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY OR OUTSIDE IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF WHEN'S THE COUNTY WHEN THEY NEED ASSISTANCE.
UH, THE, THE BENEFIT, I GUESS MAYBE THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING IS IF IT'S ON THIS SIDE OF THE COUNTY, EVERYTHING WE DO RIGHT NOW IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF
AND THAT, THAT ALSO MEANS THAT VICTIM SERVICES HAS TO DRIVE, TAKE VICTIMS TO, AND FROM, UM, SURVIVORS, I'M SORRY, A TWO IN FRONT OF THE LOCATION AND, UH, KNOW ANYTHING THAT'S ON THIS WEST SIDE OF THE COUNTY.
IT HELPS US AS FAR AS EFFICIENCY AND TIME AND GETTING, UH, THOSE SERVICES.
NOW, THE DIFFERENCE WITH THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY, IT'S NOT LIKE ANYTHING THAT'S EVER BEEN IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE OF ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE COMING ALONG WITH IT, WITH ACCESS TO THE COUNTY AND DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AS WELL AS OTHER HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND, UM, A SANE NURSE PROGRAM AS WELL, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO TRY TO FIND THE HOSPITAL OR DRIVE THE TEMPLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THERE'S, UH, A LOCAL LOCATION.
SO, UH, AS FAR AS THE SERVICES, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE IT CLOSE CLOSER TO US, BUT YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE LOCATIONS AND STUFF, I MEAN, THAT'S STUFF THAT YOU GUYS FIGURE OUT AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, BUT IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A SERVICE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE DISCUSSION? I THINK JUST CLEARING UP ONE.
CAUSE THERE WAS A COUPLE ON A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
UM, MY FIRST THING IS JUST, UH, I, I AM, I RESPONDED IF ANYBODY HAS HAD SOMETHING I HAVE RESPONDED, I HAVE SOME TALK TO YOU.
SOMETIMES IT'S WALKING DOWN THE STREET, SOMEBODY IS IN AN EMAIL.
I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT, UM, THAT WE SAY THIS IS A REALLY TOUGH POSITION TO BE IN NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU LOOK AT IT.
AND, UM, TO THINK THAT NOBODY WAS HURT.
I REALLY BELIEVE THAT, UM, I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND I SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW UP HERE ON COUNCIL.
LIKE WE ARE, WE ARE HEARING YOU, WE ARE LISTENING TO YOU.
WE'RE TRYING TO PUT OURSELVES IN YOUR POSITION TOO.
THERE IS ANOTHER SIDE TO THAT AS WELL TOO, AND WE'VE HEARD BOTH SIDES.
UM, SO I'M TRYING TO STICK STRAIGHT, STRAIGHT TO SOME OF THE LOGISTICS HERE.
AND UM, MS. GRIFFIN, I KNOW THAT A COUPLE OF THINGS WERE CLARIFIED THERE AND THIS IS WHAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY LAST TIME TOO, WHICH WAS THE, THE ENTRANCE POINT ON HALSY.
THAT WAS A MAJOR, THAT WAS A MAJOR THING HERE.
AND I JUST, I KNOW IT'S, I KNOW IT'S WRITTEN DOWN.
I KNOW WE GOT THE UPDATED PUTIN NOTES, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, IF, IF THEY, IF THEY ABSOLUTELY HAD TO PUT SOME TYPE OF ACCESS POINT, THIS WOULD BE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY, AM I CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND THE WAY WE STRUCTURED IT, IT WOULD BE GATED AND FOR EMERGENCIES ONLY, AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO THE, THE, THERE WASN'T, THERE WAS THE ISSUE OF, UM, HOW FAR AWAY WAS IT? 75 PER, BUT THEY NOW HAVE THE CORRECT SETBACKS IN THE DOCUMENT.
THERE IS A SETBACK FOR BUILDINGS AND IT'S 75 FEET FROM THE NORTH PROPERTY LINES.
THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE LOTS THAT FRONT ON HILL ROWS.
AND THEN THERE'S 150 FOOT SETBACK FROM HALSY AND IT WAS CLARIFIED TO HER THAT'S ONLY BUILDINGS.
SO THAT DOES MEAN YOU COULD HAVE PARKING AND DRIVE ISLES IN THAT 75 FEET OR THE 150.
WE CANNOT HAVE CONVERSATION FROM THE GALLERY.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT WENT ON THERE, BUT THEN I KNOW, I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS BEING INSINUATED THERE TOO.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THERE WAS A BUFFER BETWEEN ANY BUILDINGS THERE THAT WAS AT LEAST 75 FEET TOO, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT AND I WASN'T IN ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS, SO I CAN'T, I CAN'T GO THERE.
UM, BUT THE LAST PART THAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY WAS ALSO WITH THE ZONING, UM, WITH THE ZONING.
I MEAN, I THINK ORIGINALLY, UM, WAS THIS LIKE A CAPAC, LIKE A NUMBER OF BEDS ISSUE IS WHY THAT THIS, THIS HAD TO GO TO THE MINOR PUD AND IT WAS OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING.
SO, UM, IS TO FIND AS A EMERGENCY SHELTER.
AND IT WAS, UM, TO TAKE CARE OF A HUNDRED BEDS.
AND IN OUR ORDINANCE WE HAVE LOCAL COMMERCIAL AND WE HAVE OPTIONS FOR GROUP HOMES.
UM, GROUP HOMES ARE SMALLER SCALE.
SO THEY'RE MORE LIKE A HOUSE THAT HAS PEOPLE IN IT, MAYBE 16 PEOPLE AT THE MOST.
SO IT WAS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
IT MADE US FEEL LIKE IT BELONGED MORE IN GENERAL COMMERCIALS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE RECOMMENDED THE MINOR PUD TO PULL THAT THE CAPACITY,
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NOT NECESSARILY THE USE, BUT ITS OTHER CAPACITY OF YOUTH, BUT YES, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.SO IF IT WAS A SMALLER AMOUNT, THEY COULD BUILD IT WITHOUT COMING TO US.
THEY COULD DO A GROUP HOME, BUT IT WOULD BE LIKE AN ACTUAL HOUSE WITH 16 BEDS.
AND ACCORDING TO THE, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE WITH HOUSING, LIKE THE ABILITY TO DO TOWNHOMES, DUPLEXES QUADPLEXES AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
ANYTHING ELSE? UM, ROBIN, SORRY.
I WAS TRYING TO WRITE ALL OF THESE DOWN.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IN THE NOTES THERE THERE'S A WALL, SO THERE WILL BE A WALL.
YOU ADDRESSED THAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT FOR THE MASONRY WALL, BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
UM, I THINK ALL THE OTHERS WERE ADDRESSED.
UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE I'LL SECOND.
AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT WHEN UM, WHEN THERE'S DISAGREEMENT REALLY WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED IS NOT WHETHER OR NOT HOPE ALLIANCE SHOULD OPERATE HERE.
IT'S WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE AGREEING TO LET THEM HAVE A LARGER OPERATION THAN WHAT THEY COULD HAVE BY, RIGHT.
UM, MOST OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY CAN JUST COME IN AND DO TODAY WITHOUT ANY INPUT FROM ANYBODY.
UM, BUT THAT'S REALLY THE ISSUE THAT'S AT HAND HERE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
UM, YEAH, THERE'S SO MUCH I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, BUT I DON'T, I, I THINK I'VE ALREADY SAID IT, SO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OPPOSED? OKAY.
COUNCIL IS GOING TO TAKE A RECESS OF FIVE MINUTES.
WE ARE RECONVENING AT 9:14 PM ON TO
[34. Discuss and consider action on the First Reading of an Ordinance regarding Zoning Case 20-Z-025 to amend the current zoning of SFU/MH-2-B (Single-Family Urban/Manufactured Home) to create the 406 Hazelwood Planned Unit Development (PUD) with base zoning of CH-2-A (Cottage Housing) on one parcel of land approximately 2.764 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R036565; and more commonly known as 406 Hazelwood Drive, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. ]
ITEM 34, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING ZONING CASE 20 0 2 5 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF S F U M H TO BE SINGLE FAMILY URBAN MANUFACTURED HOME TO CREATE THE 4 0 6 HAZELWOOD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD WITH BASE ZONING OF C H TWO, A COTTAGE HOUSING ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 2.764 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA PLANNING DIRECTOR GRIFFIN.THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR THE HAZELWOOD PUDS ZONING CASE.
UM, AT THE LAST MEETING, THE COUNCIL DISCUSSED THIS CASE AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS DEALT WITH, UM, THE GUEST PARKING.
UM, SINCE THEY'RE PROPOSING A PRIVATE DRIVE, YOU DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ON-STREET PARKING.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION AND HAS SOME RENDERINGS TO SHOW SOME OPTIONS.
UM, THE, THE STAFF LOOKED AT, UM, ADDING PARKING AT THE END OF THE HAMMERHEAD AND I'M ALSO WIDENING THE DRIVE AND WE FELT LIKE IT MIGHT BE THE BEST PLAN TO UPDATE THE PUD TO INCLUDE AN AMOUNT OF PARKING TO BE ADDED.
SO WE COULD ACTUALLY LOOK AT CIVIL DRAWINGS AND WE COULD WORK THROUGH IT, UM, WITH MORE FACTS.
UM, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
CAN WE SWIM IN ALL THAT? UH, GOOD EVENING, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE MARK FREES WITH CRAFTSMEN HOMES.
UM, AS ROBIN STATED, LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS OR ADDITIONAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS, THE, UH, CURRENT PUD AND PARKING THAT WE'VE SUPPLIED, UH, FOR TWO GARAGE PARKING SPACES AND TWO, UH, DRIVEWAY PARKING SPACES PRETTY MUCH MET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING.
UM, BUT WE DISCUSSED HAVING SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS.
UM, SO WE CAME UP WITH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
UH, ONE IS ZOOM, HOW WE TALKED TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND GOT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ON ADDING, UH, CAN THEY DO THE LIGHT THING, EXTENDING THESE HAMMERHEADS JUST A LITTLE BIT SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ALLOW FOR TWO PARKING SPOTS AT THE END OF THE HAMMERHEAD, UH, WE'D PAINT THE FIRE LANE, OF COURSE.
AND, AND UM, AND THE PARKING SPACES TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE FIRE LANE IS IN TERMS AND, AND, UH, UH, IN TERMS OF WHERE THE FIRE LANE
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IS, UH, AND THE PARKING SPOTS.SO THERE'D BE TWO DOWN HERE, UH, TWO ON THE OTHER END OF THIS HAMMERHEAD AND THEN TWO ON THE OTHER HAND OF THAT HAMMERHEAD.
SO W WE TRIED TO GET ANOTHER ONE IN HERE, BUT OUR DETENTION WON'T ALLOW FOR IT BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF DETENTION THAT WE NEED FOR THE SITE.
SO THERE WOULD BE SIX ADDITIONAL SPOTS, UH, UNDER THIS SCENARIO.
THE OTHER SCENARIO IS TO WIDEN THE INTERNAL AMARYLLIS COURT TO 24 FEET, UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PARK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO TRY TO KEEP THIS AS A PEDESTRIAN TYPE FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THE, UH, WIDENING THE ROAD WOULD ALSO GET US.
WE WOULD START ENCROACHING THE CRITICAL ROUTES OUT OF THIS.
I THINK IT'S A 68 INCH HERITAGE OAK.
UM, WE WOULD END UP BY THE TIME WE PUT THE IN AND STUFF, WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO EXCAVATE AT LEAST TWO OR THREE FEET UP INTO THIS CRITICAL ROOT ZONE, WHICH, UH, I, WE COULDN'T GUARANTEE THAT THAT TREE WOULD LIVE IF WE HAD TO DO THAT.
SO SIX PARKING SPOTS IS PROBABLY THE BEST WE COULD COME UP WITH.
THE OTHER OPTION WAS, UM, WE COULD WIDEN THE STREET AND DO THE PARKING SPOTS WE COULD DO BOTH, BUT FROM OUR ESTIMATION, SIX SPOTS SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND GUESTS.
THERE'S A BIRTHDAY PARTY, RIGHT? SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, IT'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THIS COUNCIL.
WELL, IN TALKING TO, UM, IN TALKING TO THE, UH, MS. GRIFFIN, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMED LIKE THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE RATHER THAN HAMSTRING AND SAY, THIS IS WHY IT HAS TO BE DONE RIGHT NOW.
UM, GIVEN THE GRACE TO SAY, WELL, THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, THERE'S A PERCENTAGE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE COVERED HERE, RIGHT? GIVING YOU THE FREEDOM TO KIND OF DO IT WITHIN THAT.
SO WE, WE GET THE PARK, WE GET THE PARKING TAKEN CARE OF.
I THINK THE NUMBER 10% CAME UP AS IF IT WAS SIMILAR TO OTHER SIMILAR TO OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, I'D LIKE THIS ONE, RIGHT? UM, MY AUNT, MY QUESTION TO MS. GRIFFIN WOULD BE, IS SIX SPOTS.
WOULD THAT QUALIFY FOR THE 10% THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF OR THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO? SORRY.
SO IT, IT DEPENDS ON, UM, THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND HOW BIG THE UNITS ARE.
SO, UM, WITH THE PARKING, IF YOU HAVE, UH, LESS THAN THREE BEDROOMS, THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE THREE PARKING SPACES.
IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN THREE BEDROOMS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE FOUR PARKING SPACES.
SO WE'D HAVE TO TAKE THE TOTAL OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS PLUS THE PARKING SPACES.
SO IF I DID THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF 19 AND ASSUMED THE, UM, FOUR SPACES, IT WOULD BE SEVEN.
UM, SO I THINK IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT HE'S PROPOSING.
UM, THERE, THERE WAS ANOTHER, UH, CONCEPT THAT WE CAN DO, AND WE DIDN'T PUT THIS UP HERE, BUT KEEPING THE STREET AT 20 FOOT WIDE IS ALMOST ESSENTIAL, UM, WITHOUT, SO THAT WE DON'T LOSE A UNIT IN THE STANDUP SHRINKING THE LOT SIZE, RIGHT.
SO I'M TAKING TWO FEET OUT OF EACH.
WE'D PROBABLY END UP WITH A LITTLE BIT SHORTER DRIVEWAY AND A 19 OR 18 FOOT BACKYARD.
SO OUR DRIVEWAYS WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT SHORTER, UM, THAT KIND OF HAMSTRINGS IT, PUTTING THE, PUTTING THE SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD.
UM, THOSE LOTS ARE ACTUALLY DEEPER.
YOU'RE AT, I THINK WE'RE AT 22 FEET ON THE DRIVEWAY, UM, WHICH IS BEYOND THE SIDEWALK.
SO THAT'S ENOUGH ROOM FOR, YOU KNOW, A FULL SIZE VEHICLE.
UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER OPTION THAT WE HAD WAS IF WE PUT, IF WE SPREAD THE DRIVEWAY AND WE FLIPPED THESE END UNITS AND PUT THE DRIVEWAY OVER HERE ON THIS ONE AND THE DRIVEWAY OVER HERE ON THIS ONE, WE HAVE ENOUGH ROOM WHERE WE COULD SINK A 20 FOOT SPOT KIND OF DOWN INTO HERE ON A PARALLEL, UM, THAT TAKES AWAY FROM LANDSCAPING, BUT WE COULD SINK A COUPLE OF SPOTS IN THERE IF WE NEEDED TO INCREASE IT JUST ON THE END ON THIS, ON THIS END UNIT RIGHT HERE.
SO WE DO THE HAMMERHEAD PARKING, WE'D HAVE SIX, WE CAN DO A SEVENTH YEAR AND THEN MAYBE AN EIGHT DOWN HERE AT THIS TIME.
SO ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH LIKE, GIVE US GIVING YOU THE FLEXIBILITY IN SAYING LIKE, HEY, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE YOU TO ACCOMPLISH THIS 10% GOAL.
UM, AND THEN YOU CAN TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOUR PROJECT RATHER THAN US THAT HAVE NO EXPERIENCE TELLING YOU HOW TO DO IT.
BUT MY QUESTION WOULD BE ON THE 10%, IS THAT FOUR SPACES PER UNIT, DOES THAT INCLUDE BOTH GARAGE SPACES AND BOTH DRIVEWAY SPACES? SO IF THAT'S THE, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THE, AS IT SITS, THEN WE WOULD MEET THE REQUIREMENT WITHOUT HAVING ADDITIONAL PARKING.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE HOW WE CALCULATE THE 10% IS YOU TAKE THE PARKING THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE SITE.
AND IT'S 10% OF THAT NUMBER IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE IN ADDITION TO THE DRIVEWAY AND THE GARAGES.
SO WE'D NEED AN EXTRA ONE PARKING SPACE OUTSIDE OF THE SIX TO MEET THE 10%.
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OKAY.YEAH, IF WE, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT SIX THERE.
I CAN FIND SOMEWHERE TO PUT ANOTHER SPOT THAT WOULD WORK.
I THINK OUR, OUR GRIEVE WITH YOU, UM, TO, TO GIVE YOU THE FLEXIBILITY, TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, PERSONALLY, I'D PREFER TO SEE THE PARKING PLACES AS OPPOSED TO PARKING ON THE STREET, JUST BECAUSE IF THIS IS GOING TO BE WALKABLE AREA, DODGING CARS IS KIDS IS JUST, IT'S NOT IDEAL.
I MEAN, IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, BUT, UM, IF THERE'S A WAY TO WORK AROUND TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE THE FLEXIBILITY YOU, AND WORKING WITH STAFF TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'LL MAKE A MOTION, BUT UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY, BUT I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I GET RIGHT ON THE VERBIAGE.
SO, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, WITH THE CONDITION THAT, UM, THAT WE'RE AGREEING TO ATTEND PER 10% RATIO IN ADDITION TO THE CURRENT PARKING, CORRECT.
AND GIVING YOU THE FLEXIBILITY TO FIGURE THAT OUT IN YOUR PROJECT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[35. Discuss and consider action on the First Reading of an Ordinance regarding Zoning Case 20-Z-021 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to create the State Highway 29 and Ronald Reagan PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning of GC-2-A (General Commercial), GC-3-A (General Commercial), and MF-2-A (Multi-Family) on eight (8) parcels of land approximately 32.266 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R319215, R464196, R534766, R534765, R4185330, R403523, R534764, and R534763; and generally located at the southwest corner of the intersection of State Highway 29 and Ronald W. Reagan Boulevard, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. ]
ACTION.ON THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING ZONING CASE 20 Z 0 2 1 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR, ONE B SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL TO CREATE THE STATE HIGHWAY 29 AND RONALD REAGAN PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE BASE ZONING OF GC TO A GENERAL COMMERCIAL G C3, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND MF TWO, A MULTIFAMILY ON EIGHT PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 32.266 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA PLANNING DIRECTOR GRIFFIN.
SO THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE FOR THE STATE HIGHWAY 29 AND RONALD REAGAN PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, DURING THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, THE APPLICANT SUGGESTED AN AMENDMENT TO THEIR PLAN TO CHANGE THE MULTIFAMILY TO COTTAGE HOUSING, AND REDUCE IT IN CITY TO 148 UNITS.
UM, AFTER THAT MEETING THE APPLICANT PROPOSED, UH, ANOTHER CHANGE TO THE PROJECT, UM, THEY PROPOSED TO CHANGE IT BACK TO THE MULTIFAMILY AND INCREASE THE UNI UNIT COUNT FROM 300 TO 321 UNITS, BUT THEN ALSO UPDATE THE PROPOSAL TO INCREASE THE GARAGE REQUIREMENTS, TO BRING THEM CLOSER TO OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE.
SO THEY'RE PROPOSING STRUCTURED PARKING NOW, UM, AND THEY'RE ALSO INCREASING THE BUILDING HEIGHT FROM 60 FEET TO 75 FEET.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS.
I'M LIVED NEXT DOOR IN JONESTOWN AND SERVE ON THE CITY COUNCIL IN JONESTOWN.
UH, I, UM, APPLAUD THE TWO OF YOU THAT GOT ELECTED.
I, I GET TO CAMPAIGN AGAIN IN NOVEMBER AND I'M REALLY NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
SO I FEEL FOR YOU, UH, LET ME START BY JUST A QUICK RECAP OF THIS.
UM, CAUSE IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW OR A MONTH, I GUESS, UH, 29 GATEWAY PROJECTS IS THE FRONT DOOR TO LEANDER ON THE NORTH SIDE.
UM, THIS IS A MIXED USE HIGH-END QUALITY DEVELOPMENT ON ABOUT 32 ACRES.
THE DEVELOPER IS COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS A VERY UPSCALE PROJECT.
UH, IT'S ALL MASONRY, THE WHOLE THING WE'RE GOING TO MEET OR EXCEED THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.
I'M GOING TO COME BACK UP AND TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE TENANT MIX.
UH, JASON CLAUNCH IS WITH CATALYST COMMERCIAL.
I'M ALSO WITH CATALYST COMMERCIAL.
WE'RE A DALLAS BASED REAL ESTATE CONSULTING FIRM.
UH, WE WORKED THROUGHOUT TEXAS IN THE U S WITH, WE KIND OF SPLIT OUR TIME BETWEEN CITIES AND DEVELOPERS.
UH, JASON WORKED ON YOUR COMP THE MOST RECENT COMP PLAN.
HE WAS ON THE TEAM THAT HELPED WRITE SOME OF YOUR COMP PLAN DATES.
JASON'S OUT OF DALLAS AND I'M HERE IN JOHNSTOWN.
THEN I'LL COME BACK UP AND FINISH UP ON SOME TENANT MIX, JASON LAUNCH WITH THE CATALYST COMMERCIAL.
UH, ERIC, THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION.
IT'S AN HONOR AND PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
UM, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU AND GIVE YOU CONTEXT FOR SOME OF THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA HOW THE DEVELOPMENT WAS PLANNED.
UH, THE INTENTION IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS A COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT, UM, WITH BOTH, UH, COMMERCIAL AND INTEGRATED RESIDENTIAL WAS, UH, AS ROBIN AND THE STAFF HAD MENTIONED.
UM, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING ON THE SITE PLAN WITH STAFF WHILE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS NOT A BIG BOX CENTER.
UH, WE'RE PROVIDING PLACES FOR RESTAURANT AND RETAIL AND NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES IN THIS PART OF TOWN.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CREATE A DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN ATTRACT, UH, NOT ONLY, UH, SALES TAX FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO THIS IS CERTAINLY GOING TO BE A REGIONAL LOCATION.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DESIGNED TO SUCH, UM, WE'RE PROVIDING A GATEWAY FOR THE CITY.
UH, WE THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIDE IN LANDER AND THE DEVELOPER DOES AS WELL.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS
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CREATES A SIGNATURE GATEWAY.UM, ERIC HAD MENTIONED IT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
UM, WE WORKED EARLY ON WITH THE DEVELOPER.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS INTEGRATED.
UM, WE'VE PROVIDED STANDARDS ON OURSELVES, SUCH AS TRAIL CONNECTIVITY THAT MAKES SURE THAT ALL THE DEVELOPMENT IS RELATED TO ONE ANOTHER AND THAT, UH, EVERYTHING'S CONTEXT SENSITIVE, BUT, UH, YET EVERYTHING WOULD REALLY FUNCTION, UM, AS THE, THE LAND USE PLAN AND INTENDED, UH, THE ACTIVITY CENTER THAT IS COHESIVE AND IT'S MIX OF MIXES OF USES.
SO, UM, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC SPACES INTEGRATED.
UH, STAFF HAD MENTIONED THE, THAT WE'RE PROVIDING 321 UNITS.
UM, ORIGINALLY, UH, THIS WAS A ALLOWABLE USE AND THEN THE DEVELOPER BOUGHT IT, UH, SUCH.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES, UH, BUT OTHER, THE ACTIVITY CENTER DOES STILL ENCOURAGE, UH, INTEGRATED, UH, MIXED JUICE, INCLUDING MULTI-FAMILY, UM, THEY'VE CLOSED.
UM, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF.
WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS, UH, DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS IN TERMS OF THIS PROCESS, BUT WE'VE ALSO WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH STAFF.
THEY'VE BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL TO HELP US MAKE SURE THAT WE DRAFT AN ORDINANCE THAT, UH, SECURES AND GIVES YOU THE ASSURANCE OF QUALITY IN THE DETAILS THAT YOU LIKE.
UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ONE BEDROOM UNITS PLANNED.
I THINK THE KEY IS, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ATTRACT YOUNG TALENT THAT CAN CERTAINLY HELP YOU ATTRACT MORE CORPORATE.
UM, AND THIS IS A TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT DESIGN THAT, UH, YOU WOULD FIND IN A LOT OF OTHER URBAN CENTERS, VERY SIMILAR TO THIS.
UM, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UH, I KNOW THAT TONIGHT TALKING ABOUT WATER, UH, THIS DESIGN AND THIS PROJECT USES LESS WATER THAN A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK 68 GALLONS PER RESIDENT, UH, PER MONTH, UH, COMPARED TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.
AND CERTAINLY, UM, WE'VE TALKED TO THE DEVELOPER.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT DESIGN IS SUSTAINABLE.
SO WE'VE INTEGRATED, UH, LOW-IMPACT DESIGN STANDARDS AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO WORK WITH STAFF TO, UH, WORK OUT THE DETAILS, WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE RUNOFF IS COLLECTED AND THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE IN A WAY.
UM, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT RESEARCH RELATING SOME OF THE, THE, UH, THE, UH, AIR CONDITIONED CONDENSATION, AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS USED IN THE PROJECT AND JUST REALLY SMART PRINCIPLES THAT I THINK COULD HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING.
SO, UM, I'LL LET ERIC, UH, DESCRIBE, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT, BUT WE'RE BOTH HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL ON THE, ON THE, GET BACK UP TO THE MIC, A LITTLE SOMETHING ON THE TENANT MIX, UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED AND HAVE AGREED TO START AT LEAST 40,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL.
I THINK THE PUD ORIGINALLY WHEN WE WERE HERE LAST TIME WAS 20,000 FEET.
WE'LL GO TO 40,000 FEET OF COMMERCIAL GETS STARTED BEFORE ANY MULTI-FAMILY GETS STARTED.
UM, AGAIN, THE, THE MULTI-FAMILY WE'RE PRESENTING TONIGHT IS VERY HIGH END.
IT IS A STRUCTURED GARAGE, SEVEN SIX STORY.
THIS IS A VERY HIGH END PRODUCT.
IT'S MUCH MORE HIGH END THAN WHEN WE CAME TO YOU IN, IN MAY.
UM, WE LOOKED AT, UH, AT THE OTHER, THE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, FROM A WATER USAGE STANDPOINT, THIS IS NOT A GREAT DIFFERENCE.
AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S LOW IMPACT DESIGN.
IT ALLOWS BECAUSE IT'S A TALL STRUCTURE, IT'S VERTICAL, WHICH IS WHAT YOU ALL WANTED.
WHAT LEANDER WANTS IS A MORE VERTICAL LOOK, UM, BECAUSE OF THAT, IT OPENS UP MORE GREEN SPACE.
IF WE WENT TO SINGLE FAMILY ON THIS, WE'D LOSE ALL ALMOST ALL OF OUR GREEN SPACE.
UM, SO WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE, UH, DENSITY HERE, BUT WE'RE STILL BELOW THE PER ACRE DENSITY FOR ALL MASONRY PRODUCT.
AGAIN, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE FROM AN AERIAL IS TWO BUILDINGS WITH COURTYARDS IN THE MIDDLE THEY'RE FIVE STORY, UH, WITH A CENTER STRUCTURED GARAGE PARKING, UH, IT'S ALL GARAGE PARKING.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SURFACE FOR SOME GUESTS.
THERE'S NO ON-STREET PARKING HERE.
UM, THE TENANT MIX ON THE COMMERCIAL, AGAIN, 40,000 FETAL START, UH, BEFORE ANYTHING, UH, IS BEING HANDLED BY JLL A NATIONAL FIRM.
THEY'VE HAD GREAT RESPONSES SO FAR.
THEY'VE GOT DOZENS OF PROSPECTS, IT'S BANKS, CREDIT UNIONS, DENTAL OFFICES, MEDICAL CLINICS, UH, SCHOOL, UH, RESTAURANTS, A NUMBER OF SIT-DOWN RESTAURANTS, MOSTLY SIT DOWN.
WE'RE NOT GETTING A LOT OF, UH, INTERESTING.
I WOULD'VE THOUGHT THERE WOULD'VE BEEN A LOT MORE QSR, FAST FOOD, BUT IT'S MOSTLY SIT DOWN THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE THAT, THAT THEY'RE COMING AFTER A COUPLE OF COFFEE SHOPS ARE CLAMORING FOR SPACE AS WELL.
UM, ALL THAT ADDS UP TO APPROXIMATELY $900,000 A YEAR IN PROPERTY AND SALES TAXES PER YEAR COLLECTED WHEN THIS IS COMPLETED, WHEN THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETED, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEX, THE MULTI-FAMILY COMPLEX, WE READ ABOUT $140,000, 130,000 OR 40,000 A DOOR.
LAST TIME I WAS HERE, THIS HAS GONE WAY
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UP IN PRICE.THIS IS GOING TO BE AN EXPENSIVE PLACE TO LIVE.
IT'S GOING TO BE THE, PROBABLY THE HIGHEST RENTS, ONE OF THE HIGHEST RENTS IN THE CITY.
IT'S A $64 MILLION BUILDING PROJECT JUST IN THAT, JUST THAT ONE BUILDING COLLECTS IN PROPERTY AND SALES TAXES ABOUT $900,000 A YEAR.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL WE'VE GOT.
I WOULD TELL YOU THAT WE ALSO HAVE, UH, JEFF IRVIN WHO IS WITH THE ARCHITECTURE FIRM PRINCIPLE WITH THE ARCHITECTURE FIRM STG.
HE'S HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT LOW IMPACT DESIGN, SOME OF THE WATER USAGE, UH, EVEN ELEVATIONS, IF THAT'S HELPFUL.
WAS HE GONNA SPEAK ON THAT? UH, SORRY.
I WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING PREPARED OR NOT.
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNSEL.
MR.
THIS IS DEFINITELY A MOVE IN THE, IN THE CLOSER TO THE DIRECTION.
IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY VERTICALLY INTEGRATED, MIXED USE.
HOWEVER, THE, I THINK THE VALUE WITH THE GARAGE OBVIOUSLY TAKES IT TO A DIFFERENT PRODUCT.
UM, THE TYPES OF THINGS, I THINK THE INTENT, AT LEAST WITH THE GARAGE DISCUSSIONS AND THE ORDINANCE THAT Y'ALL HAD HAD UNDERTAKEN.
SO THAT DOES HAVE A HIGHER ED ALARM, UM, FROM THE ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE, OBVIOUSLY, IF THIS DID NOT HAVE ANY INCENTIVES INCLUDED, THAT WOULD BE WHERE THAT, THAT DELTA BACK TO THE CITY WOULD BE.
SO I THAT'D BE ONE OTHER THING.
UH, IF MAYBE TO ASK THE APPLICANT, IF THEY WEREN'T INTENDING ANY INCENTIVES, THEN YOU WOULD GET A DEBT THAT DELTA, THANK YOU.
YEAH, JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY INTENT RIGHT NOW BASED ON THIS PROJECT TO PURSUE ANY INCENTIVES.
UH, OBVIOUSLY IF WE GET INTO SUBSTANTIAL ENGINEERING OR EXTRAORDINARY COSTS, BUT THOSE WOULD BE FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, BUT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ANTICIPATED.
UM, AND, AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, UM, OR PROVIDING A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF HORIZONTAL MIXED JUICE AND A LOT OF COMMERCIAL, UM, YEAH, WE, WE'VE BEEN VERY SENSITIVE AND TO THE LOCATION OF THE URBAN RESIDENTIAL AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN A LOCATION, THAT'S VERY CONTEXT SENSITIVE.
UM, IT'S FURTHER BACK IN THE PROPERTY.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING, UH, ALTHOUGH I'M A HUGE PROPONENT OF VERTICAL MIXED USE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN THAT LOCATION, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDED MORE COMMERCIAL IN A SUSTAINABLE WAY, UH, WHERE IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO GET MAXIMIZE THE TAX BASE FROM THE CITY.
SO ON THE AGENDA, IT SAYS THAT THIS IS A FIRST READING, BUT I BELIEVE YOU GUYS CAME.
THIS IS THAT, SHOULD THAT BE CORRECTED? THIS IS THE SECOND READING OR THE COUNCIL DELAYED ACTION.
SO WE'RE DOING THE FIRST THREE OF THE ORDINANCE DURING THIS MEETING, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE IT AGAIN ON JULY 1ST FOR THE SECOND READING.
AND THEN MY QUESTION, UM, IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT WAS BEFORE THIS ONE, I WAS WONDERING WHAT WAS SCALED BACK FROM THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN THE MAIN MEETING.
WHAT WE HAD HEARD WAS WATER USAGE AND, AND DENSITIES.
UM, AND WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WAS A BUILD TO RENT SINGLE FAMILY, UH, REALLY COVERING UP ALL OF THE LAND WITH A SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT.
UM, AND, AND, AND WE STARTED TO GET IN, WE GOT AN OFFERS FOR THAT SINGLE FAMILY.
WHOSE IDEA WAS THAT TOO? WE DIDN'T BRING THAT UP.
UH, THAT YOU, YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT BEING TOO DENSE AT 300 UNITS.
AND WE SAID, WELL, WE COULD, WE COULD TRY TO GO TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON HERE.
WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE WATER USAGE, BECAUSE THIS IS A HEAVY MIX IN ONE BEDROOM UNITS.
WE, WE FELT LIKE THAT WE'RE NOT USING A LOT MORE WATER.
IN FACT, WE RAN THE CALCS ON THIS.
IT'S ABOUT 22,000 GALLONS, A DAY OF WATER USAGE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF FIXTURES.
IF WE COVERED THIS UP IN A HUNDRED AND HALF THAT MANY OR 148 UNITS OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WE CALCULATED AT ABOUT 14,000 GALLONS.
SO THIS IS A LITTLE MORE WATER, BUT NOT A LOT MORE WATER.
AND AGAIN, THAT 14,000 OF SINGLE FAMILY DOES NOT COUNT ALL THE HOSE BIBS AT EVERY ONE OF THOSE HOMES HAVE.
IT'S A VERY SMALL BACKYARD ON THOSE, UH, BUT THEY DO HAVE YARD AND THEY DO HAVE LANDSCAPING ON EACH OF THOSE, THIS DOESN'T, I MEAN, IT'S GOT LANDSCAPING AROUND THE, THE UNIT, BUT, UH, IT, IT'S NOT THE HEAVY WATER USAGE THAT, THAT, ESPECIALLY THAT A GARDEN APARTMENT WOULD HAVE WITH THE HEAVY LANDSCAPING.
UM, AND, AND AGAIN, THE, THE, THE REASON WE KIND OF WENT TOWARDS THAT IS BECAUSE WE JUST, WE DIDN'T THINK WE COULD GET ANYBODY THAT WOULD DO A STRUCTURED PARKING THIS FAR OUT HERE.
WE, WE, I, I JUST, I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS EITHER,
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BUT I CAN TELL YOU, THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE GOT THE DEVELOPER AND HE'S READY TO GO.AND HE IS, HE'S DONE THIS PROJECT PRODUCT ALL OVER THE U S HE'S GOT FIVE OF THESE EXACT SAME PRODUCT.
I MEAN, SAME NUMBER OF UNITS, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS READY TO GO.
UM, AND IN FACT, UM, I'LL GO AHEAD.
AND IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH THE ARCHITECT WHERE LESS IS MORE, BUT I'M GOING TO, I'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THIS IS THE TYPE OF UNIT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THE EXACT IN FACT, WHAT THEY WERE BUILDING ELSEWHERE IN THE U S RIGHT NOW.
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ALL MAINSTREAM, BUT THIS IS AN ALL MASONRY PRODUCT, UH, UPSCALE FIVE STORY, AND THE RENTS ARE GOING TO BE HIGH.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE RIGHT WITH STRUCTURED PARKING AND ROOFTOP POOL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AGAIN, THE, THE DEVELOPER THINKS THAT'S FINE.
HE SAID, I'M NOT SURE I'D DO 1500 OF THESE UNITS, BUT HE SAID, I CAN FIND, WE THINK THERE'S A MARKET FOR 300 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE IN A VERY UPSCALE APARTMENT IN LEANDER.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRODUCT, I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THE ACTIVITY CENTER AND THE INTENT, AND THEN THE MIXED JUICE, UM, THIS IS A CREATIVE IN TERMS OF THE RETAIL LEASING.
THIS IS A TRUE URBAN REAL PRODUCT.
UM, I THINK THE, THE OTHER PRODUCT WOULD BE A CREATIVE, UH, IN TERMS OF SELLING LAND, BUT IT DOESN'T CREATE AS MUCH VALUE FOR THE COMMERCIAL WAS THIS PRODUCT WOULD JUST FROM A LIVABILITY STANDPOINT AND URBAN SCALE.
AND I THINK, UM, WE'D LIKE TO USE URBAN RESIDENTIAL, WHERE IT DOES CREATE THE URBAN CONTEXT.
AND I THINK THIS WOULD DO A BETTER JOB AND CREATE OBVIOUSLY MORE, UH, TAX BASE AS WELL.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THE 68 GALLONS? UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT PER MONTH.
IT'S A, THERE ARE A ONE BEDROOM, ONE BATH.
THIS IS A MIX OF 66%, TWO THIRDS OR ONE BEDROOM OR STUDIO A, SO THERE'S A LOT OF ONE BEDROOMS IN THIS ONE BATH, AND THEN THERE'S TWO BATHS.
AND, UH, TH THE, UH, NATIONAL STANDARD IS 54 GALLONS A DAY FOR ONE BATH UNIT, UH, 93 GALLONS A DAY FOR A TWO BATH UNIT.
WHEN YOU MIX THAT TOGETHER, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE AVERAGE CAME UP.
WHEN YOU SAID PER MONTH, NOBODY IS DRINKING.
I COULDN'T GET MY CALCULATOR TO THAT NUMBER.
I DIDN'T HAVE TO, I DIDN'T HAVE TO, IT'S NOT, SOMEBODY IS NOT SHOWERING ENOUGH OR DRINK ENOUGH WATER, AND I DON'T WANT TO LIVE THERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
SO LIKE, YEAH, I'M STILL, I'M, I'M NO DIFFERENT THAN I WAS LAST TIME.
I THINK YOU'LL WHEN YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE COLLEGE HOUSING AND THE, AND THE DENSITY, THAT'S WHAT KIND OF STILL PERKED MY EARS UP, LIKE, OKAY, LET'S KEEP TALKING ABOUT THIS.
SO WHEN I CAME BACK, I UNDERSTAND HOW THE UNITS HAVE TO GO UP WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT KIND OF STRUCTURE.
AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT KIND OF WRAP PRODUCT.
UM, AND I DON'T, I'VE NEVER BUILT ONE MYSELF, BUT I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT HAS TO, THAT HAS TO BRING EVERYTHING UP.
I JUST THINK IT GOES AGAINST WHAT WE WERE INTENDING.
I THINK THAT WE WERE INTENDING THE DIRECTION TO GO.
SO I'M GONNA ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF ON THIS ONE, AND I'LL PROBABLY BE OUT OUT OF THE CONVERSATION AT THIS POINT.
IT'S JUST THAT I HAVEN'T CHANGED MY MIND ON THAT COUNSEL.
I MEAN, IF NOBODY'S GONNA MAKE AN ACTION, I'M GOING TO MAKE AN ACTION TO TONIGHT.
IF A MOTION TO DENY IN A SECOND, IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? I LIKE THE SIGN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DENIAL AND ALL THOSE OPPOSED.
SO OPPOSED WHO WAS OPPOSED? CATHERINE WAS IN FAVOR OF DENIAL.
AND THEN LET'S SEE WHO WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF DENIAL AS FOR ALL, ALRIGHT, MOTION FAILS.
SOMEBODY HAVE A NEW MOTION, OR YOU MAKE THIS HERE.
WHEN THIS WAS 300 UNITS IN THE PRIOR DESIGN, I WAS, I WAS OKAY WITH IT.
UM, I UNDERSTOOD THE DISCUSSION AT THE DIOCESE LAST TIME ABOUT REDUCING THE DENSITY, UM, AND WHERE THAT WAS COMING FROM.
AND SO I WAS A LITTLE STRUCK SIDEWAYS WHEN IT CAME BACK AT 321 UNIT.
SO I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION.
UM, AND DO YOU UNDERSTAND WITH THE INCREASE IN, I GUESS, QUALITY FOR LACK OF A DIFFERENT WORD, UM, THAT THE UNITS HAD TO GO UP BY 21, BUT I, I GUESS I'M, I'M STRUGGLING FROM WHAT WE DENY THIS, WHAT ARE WE,
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WHAT DO WE WANT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR? I THINK WE'VE GOT TO GIVE SOME DIRECTION ON WHAT WE WANT TO SEE HERE.I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE SO FOR YOU GUYS WHO ARE SAYING, YOU WANT THE PROJECT TO GO FORWARD, TO GIVE THEM DIRECTION ON IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES, SO YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT.
UM, MY POINT OF DOING THAT WAS ONE TO MOVE THIS MEETING ALONG TO SAY, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
SO LET'S HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND SEE WHERE IT LET'S PULL EVERYBODY TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR MAKING A MOTION RATHER THAN JUST BOWING OUT.
LIKE I SAID, IT WAS GOING TO DO, BUT IF THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A MOTION MADE, WE GOT TO MAKE A MOTION.
UM, I GUESS THE BIGGEST THING WAS IN SOME KIND OF TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
UM, IT IS MY OPINION THAT MOST OF THE CITY HAS, HAS VOTED FOR US TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF TRANSITIONAL USE THAT WOULD BE CLOSER TO A COTTAGE HOUSING VERSUS A HIGH DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY PRICE.
I'M JUST STICKING TO THOSE PRINCIPLES RIGHT NOW, SIMPLY THAT, SO THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MY, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MINE, BUT THE RAILS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES SAY THAT WHEN WE STARTED THIS, THERE WAS THIS 75% GARAGE.
AND WE JUST SAID, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T GET THERE.
AND SO WHAT WE CAME WITH WAS A SURFACE PARK, URBAN RAMP.
AND YOU SAID, YEAH, BUT THAT I KNOW AT P AND Z, IT WAS A FOUR, THREE VOTE.
AND AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE VOTES SAID, WELL, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE 75% GARAGE PARKING.
WE NOW HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT GARAGE PARKING.
UM, W WHEN WE STARTED THIS, IT WAS 75%.
THE ORDINANCE CHANGED A A HUNDRED PERCENT GARAGE PARKING.
WE DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS DOABLE.
THE MARKET'S CHANGED LITERALLY IN THE LAST 60 DAYS ALMOST TO THERE'S SO MUCH ACTIVITY UP HERE FOR RESIDENTIAL.
THAT THAT'S WHAT DROVE THIS TO A HIGHER, A MUCH HIGHER END, UH, PRODUCT.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY WE, UH, IT, IT, WASN'T TRYING TO BE A BAIT AND SWITCH.
IT WAS JUST THE MARKET, LITERALLY FROM THE TIME WE LEFT HERE.
IT ALSO, I THINK IT SETS THE PRECEDENTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMING ALONG, AND MAYBE, MAYBE A LESS DENSE CORNER THAN THAT TOO.
UM, AND INTERPRETING LIKE THERE, THE CHANCES OF GETTING DONE AND SAYS, WELL, YOU APPROVED IT FOR THEM.
AND THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS JUST NOT A DIRECTION THAT, THAT I THINK THAT WE WERE SPECIFICALLY TAKING ACTION TO MAKE SURE THIS WASN'T THE DIRECTION WE WERE GOING IN.
SO THAT'S, WE STILL ARE AT ALL MASONRY BELOW AT 14 ACRES AT 320 UNITS.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT AT THE MAX WE'RE AT ABOUT 22, 23.
AND I THINK, WHAT IS IT, 25 MAX.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL ON 32 ACRES, NOT JUST 14.
SO WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND WE'VE GOT 32 ACRES.
WE'RE PROVIDING A LOT OF COMMERCIAL STAFF OR THE COUNCIL, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S SOME MERITS OF WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING THAT I THINK IS MIRRORS THE SPIRIT AND INTENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S SOME TWEAKS THAT COULD BE DONE TO SORT OF ACCOMMODATE QUALITY OF PROJECTS AND AS MUCH AS MARSHAL, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD.
AND I KNOW YOU GUYS IN NEBRASKA WITH THAT AS WELL.
I MEAN, WITH THE FOUR OF YOU THAT WERE, THAT WERE SAYING, HEY, WE WANT TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT.
SO THAT WAY, IF THERE'S A CHANCE FOR YOU TO WORK IT OUT OR NOT, I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE MY POSITION.
BUT I THINK THAT THAT, THAT WOULD BE REALLY CONSTRUCTIVE RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE JUST A QUICK QUESTION, REMIND ME HOW MUCH COMMERCIAL ORIGINALLY.
AND I KNOW YOU SAID 40,000 NOW, BUT WHAT WAS IT? 2020 THE SCARLET JUST START NOW.
THERE'S I THINK ALMOST 200,000 A COMMERCIAL IN SCHOOL AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THERE, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE UNDER CONSTRUCTION 40,000 BEFORE ANY MULTI-FAMILY IT STARTED WHAT WE'RE SAYING TO YOU WITH THAT IS WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PLAYING IT.
THIS ISN'T A DEVELOPER COMING IN HERE, GETTING THE ENTITLEMENTS AND FLIPPING LAND AND TAKEN OFF IT'S IT'S THIS DEVELOPER'S GOING TO BE DOING A LOT OF THE RETAIL HIMSELF, NOT THE MULTI-FAMILY, HE'S SELLING THAT OFF TO A NATIONAL, UH, MULTI-FAMILY BUILDER, UH, OPERATOR.
GRIFFIN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? SO WE DID JUST ADOPT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHERE WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IN CENTERS.
SO THE PREVIOUS CONFERENCE OF PLAN WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED SOME AMOUNT OF MULTI-FAMILY IN THE NEW ONE.
UM, WE HAVE A PRETTY HEAVY COMMERCIAL, UM, DENSITY FOR THESE TYPES OF CENTERS.
SO IT DOES SAY THEY SHOULD BE 70 TO A HUNDRED PERCENT NON-RESIDENTIAL WITH A 30% RESIDENTIAL.
AND WHEN WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL, THIS CATEGORY DOES NOT SUPPORT ANY, UM, TOWNHOUSES OR COTTAGE HOUSING.
IT'S MEANT TO BE A VERTICAL MIXED USE BUILDING.
SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE STANDALONE APARTMENTS.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULDN'T APPROVE THEIR CASE, BUT IF WE GO IN THAT DIRECTION, MAYBE WE'RE RE-EVALUATING THESE CATEGORIES, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT'S GUIDING STAFF IN THESE CONVERSATIONS.
UM, AND WE'VE JUST ADOPTED THIS IN APRIL.
I THINK THAT PROBABLY MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THAT AS AN ONGOING CONVERSATION, BECAUSE LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT WHERE YOU HAVE THE MULTIFAMILY, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE COMMERCIAL SO MUCH.
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FOR THAT.I'M NOT A FAN OF THE DENSITY, BUT I APPRECIATE THE COMMERCIAL THAT YOU'RE BRINGING.
I APPRECIATE THE, THE INCREASED, UH, COMMERCIAL YOU'RE DOING UPFRONT.
AND I THINK THAT WE'VE SET UP HOOPS AND YOU ALL HAVE JUMPED THROUGH IT.
AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MADE OUR BED AND IT'S TIME TO LIE ON IT.
I'LL SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED MOTION PASSES FOUR TO THREE.
[36. Discuss and consider appointment of Council Director and Citizen Director to the Board of Directors of the Brushy Creek Regional Utility Authority (BCRUA) with terms expiring July 1, 2023.]
I DON'T NUMBER 36, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTMENT OF COUNCIL, DIRECTOR, AND CITIZEN DIRECTOR TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE BRUSHY CREEK, REGIONAL UTILITY AUTHORITY, BCR UA WITH TERMS EXPIRING JULY 1ST, 2023, INTERIM CITY ENGINEER, BLACK LETTER, PLEASE COME FORWARD.UH, THE BCR, A BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS MADE UP OF TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM EACH OF THE CITIES.
THERE'S A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO IS THE MAYOR OR A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL OR A CITIZEN MEMBER WHO COULD BE THE MAYOR MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER OF STAFF, CITIZEN, ANYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY, THEY WERE ALL APPOINTED TWO YEARS AGO.
UH, THE INFORMATION I HAVE IS JASON SHAW DOES NOT WISH TO BE REAPPOINTED.
AND HE HAS BEEN OUR COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.
AND THAT JASON ANDERSON, I THOUGHT IT WAS ANDERSON.
I THINK THAT WAS A MISTAKE AT ANY RATE OUR CITIZEN MEMBER.
AFTER MED, I DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT THIS THAT CLOSELY BEFORE MY APOLOGIES, UH, DOES WISH TO REMAIN ON THE BC OR BAYER BOARD.
SO WHAT WE NEED IS A, A COUNCIL DIRECTOR TO BE APPOINTED FOR THIS POSITION.
SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT I'M WELCOME HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY, OR AT LEAST I'LL TRY TO THANK YOU WITH THAT.
I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PUT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON IN AS OUR COUNCIL DIRECTOR AND REAPPOINT JASON ANDERSON AS CITIZEN DIRECTOR.
SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
CONGRATULATIONS AND CONGRATULATIONS AND CONDOLENCES.
[37. Discuss and consider action on the selection of Mayor Pro Tem for 2021-2022.]
ALL RIGHT.ITEM 37 DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ON THE SELECTION OF AMERIPRO TAM FOR 2021 TO 2022.
I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR BECKY ROSS TO BE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES, UNANIMOUSLY, CONGRATULATIONS AND CONDOLENCES TO YOU AS WELL.
[38. Discuss and consider appointment of a council liaison to the Economic Development Committee.]
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTMENT OF A COUNCIL LIAISON TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THIS.
I KIND OF WANT TO STAY ON THE CFP SUBCOMMITTEE AS MY EXTRA DUTY IF THAT'S OKAY.
THEN ONCE THAT I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR COUNCIL MEMBER PANTALEON PARKER, A SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
I DON'T THINK YOU NEED CONDOLENCES ON THAT ONE THOUGH.
[39. Convene into Executive Session pursuant to Section 551.072 and 551.087, Texas Government Code, Deliberate the purchase, exchange, lease, or value of real property and deliberate proposed economic development incentives for one (1) or more business prospects that the governmental body seeks to have locate, stay, or expand in or near the territory of the governmental body and with which the governmental body is conducting development negotiations. Reconvene into open session to take action as deemed appropriate in the City Council's discretion regarding one (1) or more business prospects.]
CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5, 5, 1 0.072 AND 5 5 1 0.087 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE DELIBERATE, THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY AND DELIBERATE PROPOSED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES FOR ONE OR MORE BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY SEEKS TO HAVE LOCATE STAY OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE TERRITORY OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY AND WITH WHICH THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY IS CONDUCTING DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION AT 10:14 PM TO TAKE ACTION AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE IN CITY COUNCIL'S DECISION, UH, REGARDING EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, ONE OR MORE BUSINESS PROSPECTS, UM, PRO TIM, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO ACTION.
[40. Council Member Closing Statements.]
MEMBER, CLOSING COMMENTS, PLEASE.WELCOME AGAIN TO THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL THE NEW APPOINTMENTS.
AND, UM, WE USUALLY LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S COMING UP AND I,
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OH, WE HAVE THE LONGEST DAY OF THE YEAR, LONGEST DAY OF THE YEAR COMING UP ON MONDAY, AND THEN IT'S ALL DOWNHILL FROM THERE AND IT GETS COOLER AND COOLER.NOT REALLY HAVE A GOOD NIGHT, EVERYBODY PLEASE, TOO.
WELCOME TO THE NEW MEMBERS PLEASE.
SIX TO THEN, UM, THANKS FOR YOUR BODY.
IT JUST WANTED TO, WE HAD A GREAT, UH, OLD TALENT FESTIVAL ON THE FIFTH, SO IT WAS EXCITING TO SEE EVERYBODY OUT AND ABOUT AND HOPE THAT CONTINUES.
AND ALSO I BELIEVE THE LIBERTY FAST TICKETS OR AVAILABLE NOW.
SO, AND YOU CAN DO THAT THROUGH THE PARKS AND REC WEBSITE.
IT WAS A INTERESTING ONE RIGHT OFF THE BAT TOO, BUT, UM, UM, WE'RE I LIKE OUR DIALOGUE TOGETHER, SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE A PROMISING YEAR COMING UP AND JUST TO WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU BOTH AND SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF.
THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT SPOKE TONIGHT AND THANK YOU TO THE REST OF COUNCIL.
UM, THIS CAN BE A GOOD YEAR, PLEASE, FOR THANK YOU.
YOU HUNG IN THERE, BUT HAPPY JUNETEENTH.
IT'S COMING UP AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THEIR PROCLAMATION TODAY.
THANKS EVERYBODY FOR STICKING IT OUT TONIGHT AND, UM, WELCOME TO OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF US THAT WE HAVE A FULL COUNCIL AND WE CAN GET TO WORK DOING SOME REALLY GOOD STUFF FOR THE CITY.