Jul 08, 2021 P&amp;Z Commission

HI, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

AGENDA ITEM NINE.

WE WILL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 T O D Z 0 0 1.

TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR, ONE B SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL AND P U D T O D C D.

PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT SECTOR TO CREATE THE MONARCH P U D WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICTS OF COTTAGE HOUSING T F TWO, A TWO FAMILY AND GC THREE, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL SUBDIVISION CASES, 21 T O D C P 0 0 1 AND 21 T O D P P 0 0 2 TO ADOPT THE MONARCH CONCEPT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLAT ON TWO PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 49.8 ACRES IN SIZE, AND GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE NORTHWEST OF 180 3 TOLL ROAD AND CR 2 76.

WE ENTER ONCE IN COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

MY NAME IS COREY DALE.

I'M THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UM, SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE CASE.

THIS, UH, REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN ZONING PROCESS, AS WELL AS THE FIRST TWO STEPS OF THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE CITY WITH A HIGH QUALITY, A HORIZONTAL MIXED USE COMMUNITY WITH THE DIVERSE RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT TYPE THAT INCLUDES ATTACHED AND DETACHED RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USE, UM, A COUPLE OF US FOR A SPECIAL CONSIDERATION.

THIS APPLICANT, UH, THIS APPLICATION IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO ESTABLISH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT, UH, WITHIN THE CURRENT, UH, CD SECTOR, THE, UH, CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT SECTOR, UM, THE APPLICATION OR THE APPLIC, YES, THE APPLICATION INCLUDES A CONCEPTUAL SITE LAYOUT AND LAND USE PLAN.

UH, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN YOUR PACKET THAT ALSO SERVES AS THE CONCEPT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLAT FLIP SOME SLIDES.

SO THE SURROUNDING USES THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF US, 180 3 AND SOUTH OF THE HIGH GABRIEL WEST SUBDIVISION EAST OF THIS SITE IS 180 3, A TOLL AND THE FUTURE OF BRYSON GAS STATION PUD WEST IS CR 2 76 AND THE WILEY CREEK ESTATE SUBDIVISION.

UH, CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY CONTAINS A SINGLE FAMILY HOMESTEAD WITH A, AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

UM, UTILITIES, UH, ARE AROUND THE SITE.

THERE IS A 12 INCH WATER LINE, UH, ON 180 3 SHOULD BE RIGHT HERE IN THIS AREA.

THERE'S ALSO A

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WATER LINE THAT THEY CAN TIE INTO IN THE SOUTH PROPERTY.

UH, IT'S DOWN A WAYS, SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RUN A LINE UP.

SO A DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD BY STAFF ON DECEMBER 14TH, 2020, SINCE THEN NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE NOTIFICATION, UM, OF THE PROPERTY WERE MAILED BY CITY STAFF NOTIFICATION OF THE REZONE WERE MAILED BY CITY STAFF TO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT FELL WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY SUBJECT FOR REZONE.

UH, THERE WAS ALSO, UM, A PAPER PUBLICATION, UH, IN THE, UH, PAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION.

AND I'M GUESSING THAT'S THE HILL COUNTRY NEWS.

AND THERE WAS SIGNAGE PLACED ON SITE.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, THE, UH, DEVELOPER REACHED OUT TO, UH, THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, IN 500 FEET.

AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE LAST EXHIBIT IN YOUR, UH, PACKET.

I'LL GO OVER AND TOUCH ON THAT FOR A SECOND.

SO THEY SENT NOTICES OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, ALL THE RESIDENTS, UH, AND INCLUDING, UH, THE HOS THAT ARE SURROUNDING THEM, UH, WITHIN THE 500 FOOT BUFFER, THEY WERE NOTIFIED THROUGH MAILS MAIL.

UH, THEY ALSO REACHED OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE HOA FOR LET'S SEE WILEY CREEK ESTATES, BRYSON RIDGE, HI GABRIEL WEST A ZOOM, A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS HELD ON APRIL 20TH, 2021.

UM, AND THEN, UH, THEY HAD, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNERS FROM WILEY CREEK ESTATES, UH, SHOW UP FOR THAT ZOOM MEETING.

UH, SO THERE'S MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THAT IN YOUR PACKET, INCLUDING THE 500 FOOT BUFFER EXHIBIT, AS WELL AS THE, UM, PARCEL IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, THAT WERE MAILED OUT.

THAT BEING SAID, UM, THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH BOTH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THE SURROUNDING USES.

HOWEVER, STAFF HAS CONCERNS REGARDING THE REDUCTION TO COMMERCIAL SETBACKS.

THEY ARE REQUESTING A REDUCTION TO 15 FOOT MINIMUM WHEN ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, UH, ZONING, UH, OR USES THE TYPICAL STANDARDS, PROVIDES ADDITIONAL SETBACK AREA WHEN THE COMMERCIAL IS DEVELOPED ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY.

AND I BELIEVE THAT COMES OUT TO BE 50 FOOT.

SO IT WOULD BE PREVALENT ON THE SAME RIGHT HERE, WHAT BUTTS UP AGAINST NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL.

UM, THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING HIGHER STANDARDS AND IS REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING WAIVERS.

SO I'LL GO OVER A COUPLE OF THAT.

UH, SO SOME HIGHER STANDARDS THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING IS THEY HAD A SECTION IN THERE, UM, PLED REQUESTS LETTER, UH, THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PROHIBIT A COUPLE OF UNDESIRABLE COMMERCIAL USES.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ADDITION OF SEVEN ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.

THEY'RE GOING TO SUPPLY AN AMENITY CENTER AND THERE'LL BE A WALKING TRAILS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.

SOME WAIVERS THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING ARE MORE THAN ONE UNIT PER LOT.

THERE WOULD BE NO INTERNAL STREETLIGHTS TO THE SUBDIVISION.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE THE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS FROM CR 2 76.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO REDUCE THE SETBACKS FOR COMMERCIAL.

WHEN DID JASON TO RESIDENTIAL, WHICH WE DISCUSSED, THEY WOULD LIKE TO LIMIT THE TREE REQUIREMENTS IN THE FRONT YARDS OF A TWO FAMILY.

AND THEY WOULD ALSO LIKE, UH, SINGLE, UH, SIDEWALKS ON A SINGLE SIDE OF THE STREET IN THE, UH, INTERNAL PART.

SO AT THIS POINT, UH, THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

UH, STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE AFRICAN IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

AND WELCOME TO THE TEAM.

PLUS FOUR OR FIVE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES SITTING ON ALMOST 50 ACRES.

DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE FOR PRESENTATION THERE FOR QUESTIONS? OKAY.

AT THIS POINT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

UM, ADRIAN SHARP.

I BELIEVE SHE JUST, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK OR DID YOU JUST WANT YOUR POSITION RATHER THAN THE RECORD? SURE.

IF YOU'LL COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

HELLO.

MY NAME IS ADRIAN SHARP.

I LIVE AT AND THIS IS WILEY CREEK ESTATES.

AND I'M SPEAKING AGAINST THE PROPOSED MONARCH DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN NO TRAFFIC IMPACT OUT NALLIS IS DONE.

AND I FEEL IT'S RATHER IMPERATIVE THAT IT IS DONE.

WILEY CREEK IS A VERY SMALL SUBDIVISION.

WE HAVE ABOUT 16 HOUSES IN ONE CHURCH SITTING ON ABOUT 80 ACRES.

THEIR PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IS GOING TO HAVE 193 HOUSES,

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THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN CARS ENTERING, ENTERING, AND EXITING USING ONE ACCESS ROAD TO GET ONTO 180 3, WHETHER YOU'RE GOING NORTH OR SOUTH TO ME, BEARS STUDY AND LOOKING AT IT, THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT ARE SUDDENLY GOING TO BE FUNNELING OUT.

IF THEY'RE PROBABLY AT PEAK TIMES, IT'S GOING TO CAUSE HUGE PROBLEMS. THIS MORNING, I TRIED TO LEAVE GOING NORTH ON 180 3 FROM MY LITTLE ACCESS ROAD TO DO THAT.

I HAVE TO GO UP THE ACCESS ROAD, THEN TURN RIGHT ONTO 180 3 HEADING SOUTH.

I'VE GOT A THOUSAND FEET TO GET OVER TWO LANES INTO THE THIRD LANE, WHICH IS A LEFT-HAND TURN TO GO AROUND THE ROUND AND UP NORTH.

IT TOOK ME OVER FIVE MINUTES TO GET OUT OF THERE BECAUSE OF THE HUGE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC CARS COMING FROM THE NORTH.

AND THIS WAS AT EIGHT 30 IN THE MORNING BEFORE THE EXTRA 200 UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO MOVE IN.

AND THIS IS BEFORE ALL OF THE PEOPLE GOING START GOING TO THEIR OFFICES INSTEAD OF ISOLATING, WORKING AT HOME, ALSO RETURNING TO WILEY CREEK, GOING NORTH ON 180 3, WE HAVE A LITTLE PULL OFF RENT, PULL OFF LANE AND TRYING TO LOOK LEFT TO TURN TRAFFIC COMING FROM NORTH 183.

AND FROM BRYSON SUBDIVISION OVER THERE, WE CAN'T SEE IT.

IF THERE'S ANY TRAFFIC WAITING AT THE LIGHT AT THE CHANGEOVER, IT'S A BLIND.

SO WHAT WE DO IS WE SORT OF INCH OUT AND HOPE THAT NOBODY'S WHIPPING AROUND COMING FROM 180 3, GOING SOUTH, UH, 55 MILES PER HOUR.

SO UNTIL THERE'S SOME SORT OF A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY DONE, I FEEL IT'S A PROPOSAL THAT SHOULD NOT BE PASSED UNTIL THAT'S DONE.

THANK YOU, ROBERT LANGER, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF THEM OR JUST HAVE YOUR POSITION RIGHT INTO THE IS HERE? OKAY.

IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, WE'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

MY NAME IS ROBERT LANGER.

I LIVE AT 2 0 6 AMANDA'S WAY.

THE MONARCH PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS BEING PRESENTED AS A HIGH QUALITY HORIZONTAL MIXED USE COMMUNITY.

THE POD IS USED TO PROVIDE FOR A SMOOTH LOGICAL TRANSITION BETWEEN AN EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AREA AND BUSY MAJOR INTERSECTION.

THE INTENT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT IS TO CREATE A DEVELOPMENT WITH A HIGH ARCHITECTURAL STANDARD THAT HAS UNIQUE ENVIRONMENTAL AND OPEN SPACE FEATURES.

WHEREAS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE HAVE BEEN SAVED.

SO GIVEN THE REQUIREMENTS, THERE SHOULD BE FEW.

IF ANY WAIVERS, THE POD IS IN A TOD IN THEORY, A WALKABLE AREA.

WHY IS THERE A WAIVER FOR SIDEWALKS ON COUNTY ROAD 2 76? IF WE'RE IN A WALKABLE AREA, THE INTENT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT IS TO HAVE OPEN SPACES WITH AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE.

YET THERE'S A WAIVER FOR TREES IN THE FRONT OF LOTS.

AND FOR USING THE TREES AROUND THE DETENTION POND, AS PART OF THE OVERALL REQUIREMENT, THE ACREAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN STRIPPED OF A LARGE AMOUNT OF TREES.

AS DEVELOPMENT PROCEEDS, ADDITIONAL TREES WILL BE CLEARED AND REMOVED.

THERE NEEDS TO BE AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE PLANTED TO REPLACE WHAT HAS BEEN AND WILL BE REMOVED.

WHY IS THERE A WAIVER FOR REDUCED SETBACKS FOR COMMERCIAL WHEN IT IS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, DO REDUCE SETBACKS IMPROVE THE TRANSITIONAL ASPECTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT HAS FENCING CONSISTENT WITH THE QUALITY OF THE PROJECT.

HIGH QUALITY PROJECTS HAVE FENCING WITH A MASONRY COMPONENT.

FENCING SHOULD NOT BE WOOD OR CHAIN LINK IN A, IN A DEVELOPMENT WITH SUCH HIGH ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS.

AND ONE OF THE ATTACHMENTS, IT STATES THEY'RE GOING TO USE A WOODEN FENCE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF GIVE AND TAKE, I WOULD NOT BE AGAINST A WAIVER FOR SIDEWALKS ALONG TO COUNTY ROAD 2 76 AND HAVING INTERNAL SIDEWALKS ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, IF THE FENCING WERE UPGRADED TO SOMETHING WITH HIGHER STANDARDS AND THE LINK WAS REPLACED WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE UPSCALE IN THE COMMERCIAL AREA FOR A HIGH QUALITY HIGH ARCHITECTURAL STANDARD DEVELOPMENT, THEY CAN DO BETTER.

CARLOS GRIMES, IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, WE'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU,

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THANK YOU, GIRLFRIEND MITCHELL.

MY NAME'S CARLA GRIMES AND I LIVE AT 3 5 1 COUNTY ROAD, 2 76.

UM, WE MOVED INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT 21 YEARS AGO, AND THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS A VERY FEW HOMES.

IT'S A DEAD END NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT GOES NOWHERE.

THE NEIGHBORS KNOW EACH OTHER.

THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH TRAFFIC IN AND OUT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS HAD A VERY RESIDENTIAL FEEL AND CHANGING THAT DRAMATICALLY.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING ANOTHER SUBDIVISION IN WITH 193 HOMES, MY CONCERNS IN, IN LARGE PART ARE THE NOISE THAT THAT MANY RESIDENTS IS GOING TO BRING TO THE AREA, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THAT THEY ONLY WANT TO PUT UP A WOODEN FENCE RATHER THAN A MASONRY FENCE, AS BOB STATED PREVIOUSLY.

I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS TO SAY THAT YOU'RE HOLDING A HIGH STANDARD OF ARCHITECTURAL QUALITY WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING UP A WOODEN FENCE, THAT'S GOING TO FALL DOWN IN FIVE YEARS.

UM, I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AS ADRIAN EXPRESSED HER CONCERN SINCE THE INTERSECTION WAS REWORKED FROM 180 3 OUT TO 180 3, A THE TOLL ROAD, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WERE SPENT REWORKING THAT INTERSECTION.

BUT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF OUR VERY SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET INTO AND OUT OF THERE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IN 193 NEW RESIDENCES AND THE TURN LANE.

IF YOU'RE COMING NORTH ON 180 3, A MIGHT HOLD FREE CARS RIGHT NOW TO TURN LEFT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THESE PEOPLE INTO AND OUT OF THERE? THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS TO BRING THEM UP ON 180 3, A THE TOLL ROAD, CURRENTLY THE TOLL ROAD, UM, AND HAVE THEM TURN LEFT AT THE LIGHT.

THEN YOU'RE COMPETING WITH THE CARS THAT ARE TURNING RIGHT AT THAT LIGHT.

AND SO GETTING OVER AND INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE IS PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

MOST OF THE TIME, IF I'M COMING UP THE TOLL ROAD, NOW I'M ENDING UP TURNING ON SOUTH SAN GABRIEL AND COMING UP THE BACK WAY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO TRY AND TURN LEFT AND COMPETE WITH PEOPLE TURNING RIGHT AT THAT INTERSECTION.

SO A LOT OF MY CONCERN HAS TO DO WITH SAFETY.

THE REST OF MY CONCERN HAS TO DO WITH NOISE.

UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD TRANSITION TO HAVE THAT MANY HOUSES COMING INTO A VERY RURAL AREA AND TO BE FRANK, I THINK IT PUTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN A POSITION WHERE IT AFFECTS OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

I'M NOT OBVIOUSLY NOT IN FAVOR OF THE CHANGES THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO MAKE.

I THINK IT'S THAT WE HAVE TREES THAT WE HAVE THAT RURAL ASPECT THAT THE HOUSES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE.

EACH OF THE HOUSES ARE ON FIVE ACRES ACRES WITH THE SORRY WITH, WITH, UM, ONE EXCEPTION.

ONE OF THE LOTS WAS SUBDIVIDED A FEW YEARS BACK, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, ONE LOT EVERYBODY'S ON FIVE ACRES AND THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FIVE ACRES.

I'M PUTTING THAT MANY HOUSES IN TOGETHER.

MY OTHER CONCERN.

OKAY, I'LL STOP.

IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, WE'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS GROVER MITCHELL.

I LIVE AT 3 0 1 COUNTY ROAD, 2 76.

I HAVE BASICALLY THE SAME CONCERNS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN VOICED.

I THINK THAT THE, THE TRAFFIC NOW IS DANGEROUS GETTING IN AND OUT OF THERE AFTER THEY BUILT THE TOLL ROAD AND ROUTED EVERYONE TO A LITTLE SLIVER OF TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT.

UM, THERE'S BEEN MAJOR COLLISIONS ALREADY SINCE IN THE LAST WEEK, IN THE LAST YEAR, SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE HEARD THEM FROM OUR HOUSE, UM, RIGHT THERE AT THAT SAME INTERSECTION.

I THINK THE DENSITY IS WAY TOO.

UM, GREAT.

UH, PUTTING THREE HOUSES ON A LOT.

I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET, YOU KNOW, QUALITY, UH, FAMILIES, UH, IN THERE THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO STAY.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO TURN INTO A ZONE OF RENTALS AND, UH, NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE PEOPLE, BUT THE TURNOVER IS GOING TO BE REALLY GREAT AND 190 SOME ODD HOUSES IN THAT, IN THAT AREA IS JUST TOO DENSELY PACKED.

I ALSO AGREE ABOUT THE FENCING, THE TREES, YOU KNOW, THE VARIANCES FOR THE, FOR THAT SUBDIVISION.

THANK YOU, SEAN TREY WITH THAT, RIGHT.

I'M IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, WE'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

YEAH.

SORRY.

I WAS TRYING TO FILL UP THE CARD QUICKLY.

UH, MY NAME IS SEAN TOOBY

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AND I LIVE AT 4 0 1 COUNTY ROAD, 2 76, A, WHICH IS ONE OF THE PROPERTIES DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

AND IN ADDITION TO WHAT MY NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID HERE TODAY, I, UM, AGREE WITH THEIR STATEMENTS.

INITIALLY, I WAS KIND OF UNDECIDED BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GROW LEANDER AND MAKE POSITIVE COMMUNITY IMPACTS.

UM, HOWEVER, GIVEN, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'VE STATED, I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WHERE MY PROPERTY SITS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A HUGE DRAINAGE ISSUE THAT CURRENTLY WITH THOSE TREES, ESPECIALLY REMOVED HAS GOTTEN WORSE SINCE THAT'S HAPPENED.

AND SO LITERALLY THERE IS WHEN WE'VE HAD THE TRENCHILL RAINS THAT WE'VE HAD, IT IS RUN THROUGH MY PROPERTY AND IT IS ERODING THE SOIL AT MASSIVE AMOUNTS RATES.

UM, I'VE HAD TO HAVE ARBORIST COME OUT TO HELP ME TRY TO PRESERVE THE TREES.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE A VERY THOUGHTFUL DECISION.

UM, WITH THIS APPLICATION, ADDITIONALLY, THE RESTRICTION OF ANIMALS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE DEVELOPMENT COULD BE VERY PROBLEMATIC.

SOME OF US HAVE ANIMALS THAT WE'VE HAD THERE FOR YEARS AND, UH, THERE'S CONCERNS WITHOUT A MORE SUBSTANTIAL FENCE.

UM, HOW WILL THAT IMPACT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMING OVER INTO THE AREA, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE ISSUES OF PEOPLE DROPPING, UH, ANIMALS, DROPPING TRASH, ALL SORTS OF THINGS AT THE END OF THAT ROAD.

AND I'M JUST CONCERNED WITH MORE DEVELOPMENT COMING IN THAT THAT WILL BE A GREATER EMPHASIZE AND EVEN MORE PROBLEMATIC.

I ALSO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE DUPLEXES, UM, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE QUALITY OF OUR RESIDENTIAL AREA DUPLEXES IN AT LEAST MY EXPERIENCE HAVE NOT BROUGHT IN THE TYPE OF CALIBER OF FAMILIES THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A MORE PERMANENT LA SOCIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH.

UM, AND SO I JUST AGREE WITH, UH, ONE OF OUR AGREED THAT IT WILL LEAD TO PROBABLY A, NOT AS DESIRABLE OF AN AREA.

WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF THEM? IF YOU, UH, WE'LL NEED YOU TO FILL OUT A CARD AFTER, BUT IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, WE'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

MY NAME'S TIM HOUSE AND I LIVE AT 1680 HERE AWAY APARTMENT 4, 2 0 4.

I HAPPEN TO HAVE ONE OF THE ANIMALS IN THE AREA, BUT ONE THING IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT WAS NOT DISCUSSED WAS PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE AREA.

CURRENTLY, THE PART THAT'S TALKING ABOUT BEING REZONED IS ONLY PARTIALLY IN THE CITY.

IT'S ALREADY CURRENTLY A NIGHTMARE.

WHEN YOU CALL FOR PUBLIC SERVICE LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT, IT TAKES 20 MINUTES BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ARGUING OVER.

WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AREA.

WHEN YOU ADD 193 HOMES IN THERE THAT ARGUMENT'S GOING TO GET MUCH WORSE.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE MAYBE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT POSSIBLY COMPLETELY ANNEXING THAT PROPERTY IN ITS ENTIRETY, FROM THE COUNTY, SO THAT YOU CAN BRING IT ALL UNDER COUNTIES FROM COUNTY SERVICES, INTO ENTIRELY INTO CITY SERVICES.

BEFORE YOU GO FORWARD WITH THIS AND WITH THIS APPROVAL FOR REZONING.

CAUSE ONCE YOU'VE GIVEN US APPROVAL, THAT'S, THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY OUT.

THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL NEED TO REALLY LOOK OUT.

I'M A FORMER FIREFIGHTER AND I KNOW TRYING TO GO AND FIND A HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AT 3:00 AM ON SUNDAY MORNING, AS A COUNTY, AS A CITY WHO SAYS, IT'S NOT OURS, IT'S YOURS.

YOU GO, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING.

YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ALL RESOLVED BEFORE YOU GUYS APPROVE THESE HOUSES TO GO IN THERE.

CAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING WHEN YOU APPROVE THAT'S ON EACH OF YOU, THAT YOU OKAY, THAT THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO SAY.

ANYONE ELSE? THIS WAS THE APPLICANT.

IF YOU FEEL, UM, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

SURE.

MY NAME IS BRIAN BIRDWELL.

MY ADDRESS IS 65 49 COMANCHE TRAIL, AUSTIN, TEXAS 7 8 7 3 2.

AND I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT AND, UH, JUST WANT TO DO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE CONCERNS.

UM, THE LAST, UH, GENTLEMEN, MR. HAUSEN, UH, BROUGHT UP A POINT ABOUT ANNEXATION.

THE ANNEXATION OF THE PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL AT THEIR LAST MEETING.

SO THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN ANNEXED IN ITS ENTIRETY.

UH, THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT DRAINAGE, CERTAINLY.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE ENGINEERING OF THIS FURTHER INTO THE ENGINEERING.

WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT IT.

WE DO HAVE DETENTION, UH, PONDS, WATER, QUALITY

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PONDS.

WE WILL BE, UH, DETAINING THE FLOWS TO HISTORIC FLOWS OR BELOW.

AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE CONVEYANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN SAFELY CONVEY FROM OUR PROPERTY TO, UH, UH, TO THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT EXISTS DOWNSTREAM.

AND, AND THAT MAY REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE EASEMENTS.

IT MAY REQUIRE SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE RIGHT OF WAY.

UH, BUT ALL OF THAT WILL BE DETERMINED AS WE GET FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD INTO THE ENGINEERING AS WE'RE, UH, JUST IN THE, UH, THE PROCESS OF ZONING HERE, UH, THIS EVENING AND THE CONCEPT PLAN OF TRAFFIC CONCERNS, UH, TALKED ABOUT A TIA.

UH, WE ACTUALLY DID A TRAFFIC STUDY, UM, TECH STOCKS CURRENTLY IMPROVING 180 3 A RIGHT NOW.

AND, UH, SO THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE WHAT THE NATURE OF THIS LOOKS LIKE.

BUT NEVERTHELESS, WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT, UH, THE AREA SPECIFICALLY BETWEEN 180 3, A AND THE ENTRANCE TO THE SUBDIVISION.

OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS LOOKED AT IT.

WE HAD MEETINGS WITH TEXTILE AND, UH, AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT NO IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED TO BE MADE THERE.

IN ADDITION TO WHAT TXDOT IS IMPROVING, UH, IN ADDITION TO WHAT TECH STOCKS DOING, UH, CURRENTLY, UM, THE, UH, UH, SIDEWALKS ALONG COUNTY ROAD, 2 76, WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS PROPOSED LONG 2 76.

WE ALSO ARE NOT PROPOSING TO ACCESS COUNTY ROAD 2 76.

WE, WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THERE, UH, DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WE'VE LIMITED OUR ACCESS, UH, TO, UH, TO AN ACCESS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND INSURED, WE DON'T ACCESS COUNTY ROAD TWO, SIX DIRECTLY.

UM, UH, THE, WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHAIN LINK FENCING.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE CITY ALLOWS THAT FOR RESIDENTIAL USES, BUT WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THAT, UH, IN OUR OPEN SPACE AREAS, WE'VE GOT WROUGHT IRON FENCING AROUND THOSE.

AND, UH, IN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WE DO HAVE WOOD FENCING PROPOSED, BUT THE HOA WILL BE MAINTAINING THOSE, UH, TO A HIGH STANDARD.

SO I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME.

I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME SPEAK TONIGHT.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE AT THIS POINT WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, ONE MORE PERSON TO SPEAK.

SO WE'LL KEEP IT OPEN FOR ONE MORE.

YOU'LL NEED TO FILL OUT A CARD.

YES, YES.

MY NAME IS RUBIN MODA AND I LIVE AT, UH, WE'RE THE NEWEST RESIDENTS, UH, IN THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, I MAY, UH, RETIRED, UH, RUMSON ACADEMY PARAMEDIC, UH, AND JUST MY COMMENTS ARE BASED OFF OF THE TRAFFIC THAT THIS, UH, PROPOSAL IS GOING TO CAUSE, UH, ENTERING THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, THAT POSSIBLE THEY PUT AN END OURS.

UH, JUST SPEAKING FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW, UM, NORTH ON 180 3 ENTERING OUR SUBDIVISION CURRENT SUBDIVISION, THEY'RE PROPOSING OVER 150 HOMES AND THERE'S AN AVERAGE OF TWO CARS PER HOME IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME.

SO THAT'S 300 PLUS CARS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIT INTO THIS AREA.

THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET AN AMBULANCE OR FIRE TRUCK INTO THESE AREAS IN A APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME, IMPOSSIBLE WITH A NUMBER OF CARDS THAT YOU'RE EXPECTING TO PUT INTO THIS AREA.

SO THAT TO ME IS IT'S JUST, IT'S AN IMPOSSIBILITY.

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW TECHSTOP OR ANYONE ELSE TRIES TO FIGURE OUT THIS IS A UNIQUE SUBDIVISION.

IT'S A UNIQUE ENTRANCE.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN THE END, OR WE'VE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR THE BETTER PART OF 30 YEARS.

AND I HAVE YET TO SEE A SUBDIVISION WITH AN ENTRANCE LIKE THIS.

SO, UM, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO JUST TAKE A DRIVE AND ENTER THAT SUBDIVISION GOING NORTH ON 180 3.

AND JUST TO SEE THE DANGERS THAT, THAT ENTRANCE CURRENTLY CAUSES, UH, TRYING TO FIGHT THAT THE, UH, THE TRAFFIC COMING SOUTH ON, ON THE, UH, THE TOLL ROAD.

SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY, MY ONLY CONCERN.

LAST CALL.

UH, AT THIS POINT WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER COSGROVE.

UM, FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL OF THE RESIDENTS FOR COMING OUT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

I THINK THAT YOU, YOU VOICE YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN AREAS

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AROUND YOU.

IT HELPS US MAKE DECISIONS.

UM, I HAVE A, UH, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UM, A COUPLE OF, FOR STAFF AND A COUPLE FOR THE DEVELOPER.

UM, DID, DID I HEAR IT RIGHT? YOU'RE ONLY GETTING A SINGLE CUT FOR THIS ENTIRE PROJECT AND WHERE'S THAT COMING? THAT'S THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE.

THERE ARE TWO.

SO I'M ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.

THERE'S A, A ROAD PROPOSED AND THEN THE BOTTOM RIGHT ACCESS ONTO 180 3, A, UM, BOTH OF THOSE, UH, ROADWAYS WOULD BE APPROVED BY TXDOT.

LIKE THEY HAVE TO REVIEW IT AND APPROVE IT.

AND I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT YET.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MRS. GRIFF.

UM, LET'S TALK ABOUT INTERIOR LIGHTING FOR A SECOND.

UM, IF THE APPLICANT COULD, COULD COME UP, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

YOU'RE PROPOSING.

HOW MANY UNITS, HOW MANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS? UH, WE'VE GOT 193 TOTAL.

THERE'S NO INTERIOR LIGHTING, UH, NO LIGHTS, NO INTERIOR STREET LIGHTS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

UH, WE GENERALLY TRY TO DO DARK SKY DEVELOPMENTS.

UH, THIS IS A TRANSITION BETWEEN A COMMERCIAL AREA AND A VERY RURAL RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.

AND, UH, OUR INTENT HERE WAS TO TRY TO DO A DARK SKY SUBJECT.

I, I APPRECIATE DARK DIED MORE THAN, THAN YOU UNDERSTAND, BUT WE'RE PUTTING, UM, WE'RE PUTTING MULTIFAMILY AND COTTAGE HOUSING.

UM, SO WE'RE PUTTING PEOPLE VERY CLOSE TOGETHER.

UH, AND I HAVE SOME ISSUES ABOUT THE SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT NOT HAVING INTERIOR LIGHTING ON SOME LEVEL.

UM, MY NEXT QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH, UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FENCING.

I'LL LEAVE THE SIDEWALKS TO COMMISSIONER HINES, BUT, UH, WHEN YOU TALKED TO THE RESIDENTS, AS I READ IN THE, IN THE PACKET, RIGHT.

UM, THEY SEEMED THE CONCERNS THEY SEEM TO RAISE IN PRETTY ADAMANT ABOUT, UM, SOME SORT OF MASONRY FENCING, RIGHT? UM, AGAIN, WHY NOT, UH, IF IT'S GOING TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA ANYWAY, WHY NOT? WELL, WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN CONSISTENTLY, UH, MAINTAIN A QUALITY FENCE, UH, WITH THIS WOODEN FENCING.

WELL, ONCE YOU'RE OUT, YOU HAVE NO MORE SAY OVER RIGHT.

THE HOA TASTES CONTROL.

RIGHT? WELL, UH, THAT IS TRUE.

I MEAN, TYPICALLY WE MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THE HOA UNTIL FULL DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY, RIGHT.

UH, AND THEN ONCE THE PROPERTY IS THE HOA IS TURNED OVER TO THE RESIDENTS, UH, IT'S IN THE, ALL OF THE RESIDENTS AND, UH, INTERESTS, IF THERE'S ANY PORTION OF THAT FENCE, THAT'S NOT MAINTAINED, UH, IT'S IN THE RESIDENTS' INTEREST TO HAVE THAT FIXED FOR THEIR OVERALL QUALITY OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND THEIR OVERALL PROPERTY VALUES.

MAYBE.

UM, THE LAST THING IS, IS I ACTUALLY DID GO AND LOOK AT THAT INTERSECTION.

UM, I DIDN'T REALLY ENJOY IT TO BE, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST.

SO, UM, I'M NOT THEORETICALLY OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME, SOME THINGS THAT, THAT, UM, WOULD NEED TO BE ADDRESSED TO, TO GET ME ON BOARD.

I MAY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS LATER CHAIR, BUT, UM, I'M GOOD FOR NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. HAMPTON.

I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION, UH, THE SEVEN ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.

IT'S I JUST CAN'T EXPLAIN WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE.

WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS WE'VE GOT, UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, A BATCH PAWN, WHICH, UH, ENDS UP WE FENCE SEND, AND THAT BECOMES A, UH, DOG AREA THAT, UH, THE RESIDENTS CAN USE FOR OFF-LEASH DOGS.

WE'VE GOT A POND THAT WE'RE DOING AS A WET POND, PUTTING A FOUNTAIN IN IT, PUTTING A TRAIL AROUND IT, CREATING THAT AS AMENITY FOR THE RESIDENTS.

WE'VE GOT AN AMENITY CENTER WITH A POOL AND A PLAYSCAPE, UM, AND A COMMUNITY GATHERING AREA, UH, THERE IN THAT AMENITY CENTER, UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, SOME GREEN SPACE BETWEEN SOME OF THE LOTS WITH A TRAIL CONNECTING THEM SO THAT, UH, PEOPLE CAN GET UP TO THE AMENITY CENTER AREA, UH, EASIER WITHOUT NECESSARILY HAVING TO FOLLOW THE ENTIRE PATH OF THE STREETS.

UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, UH, THOSE GREEN SPACES INCORPORATE.

AND THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, IS UP AGAINST 180 3, THERE'S A GAS STATION ON THE OPPOSITE CORNER.

AND DID YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT, UH, LOWERING THE NUMBER OF HOMES INSTEAD OF 1 93, BRINGING THAT NUMBER NOW? WELL, WE, WE CERTAINLY LOOKED AT THIS AREA

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UH, WHAT, YOU KNOW, APARTMENTS ARE THAT TYPICAL USE IN THIS AREA.

UH, AND WE THOUGHT THAT LOWERING THE DENSITY TO THE DENSITY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, VERSUS A 400 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH IS WHAT TYPICALLY GOES AT INTERSECTIONS OF THIS NATURE, UH, SEEM TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE AND WAS A GOOD COMPROMISE IN LOWERING THE DENSITY BETWEEN, UH, WHAT WOULD TYPICALLY GO HERE.

AND I THINK THE APARTMENTS WOULD ALSO BE WITH THE CITY'S LAND USE PLAN IN THIS AREA, UM, AND, AND TRANSITIONING TO THE, UH, VERY LOW DENSITY, UH, ATJ DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO THE, TO THE WEST OF US COMMISSIONER STYLES.

IT SAYS HERE UNDER THE HIGHER STANDARDS OF THEIR CERTAIN PROHIBITED UNDESIRABLE COMMERCIAL USES, COULD YOU GO OVER WHAT A YOU GAVE UP, BUT, UM, IN ORDER TO COMPROMISE ON, HONESTLY, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY BEING DONE BY TWO DEVELOPERS AND I REPRESENT THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION.

UM, NEIL FRANCOISE HERE, THAT WOULD BE FINE WITH ME AS WELL.

SO THE PROHIBITED USES, UH, ANIMAL HOSPITAL VETERINARIAN, ANIMAL BOARDING, INCLUDING A CREMATORY ASSOCIATED WITH THE USE.

UM, LET'S SEE, UH, ANY COMMERCIAL, UH, ENTERPRISE, WHICH INCLUDES AN OUTDOOR ANIMAL YARD OR ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL UNSOUND PROOFED ANIMAL AREA CONTAINING FIVE OR MORE ANIMALS IS REQUIRED TO BE AT LEAST 200 FEET FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND IS REQUIRED TO BE COMBINED WITH A TYPE FOUR OR FIVE SITE COMPONENT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RESTRICTING WITHIN OUR DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE NOT RESTRICTING ANIMALS OUTSIDE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THAT'S JUST WHAT, UH, WHAT'S BEING RESTRICTED WITHIN OUR COMMERCIAL AREAS.

FARMER TRUCK GARDENS LIMITED TO, UH, PROPAGATION AND CULTIVATION OF PLANTS AND PROVIDE FURTHER THAT NO POULTRY OR LIVESTOCK SHALL BE HOUSED WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY LINE.

AGAIN, THAT'S OUR PROPERTY, NOT ANYONE ELSE'S, UH, FUNERAL HOME, UM, IS PROHIBITED, UH, MANUFACTURED, HOUSING SALES AND ACCESSORY BUILDING SALES, TRANSPORTATION RELATED FACILITIES, INCLUDING COMMERCIAL PARKING, LOTS, PASSENGER TERMINALS TEXTED, CAB STATIONS, MASS TRANSIT, TERMINALS, AND A NEW VEHICLE AND MAJOR EQUIPMENT SALES RENTAL, OR LEASING REPAIR OF NEW AND USED VEHICLES.

BODY SHOP, SMALL ENGINE REPAIR, UM, ARE NOT PERMITTED WITHIN 150 FEET OF RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS UNLESS IT'S IN A FULLY ENCLOSED BUILDING.

UM, YOU ALSO WANTED TO REDUCE THE SETBACK BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL FROM, UH, DOWN TO 15 FEET.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THAT WAS REALLY INTENDED, UH, UH, FOR THE COMMERCIAL AREAS BACKING UP TO OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS? NOT EXTERNAL.

YEAH.

THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

YOU SEE THAT MAP.

YES, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY, UH, REALLY IT'S BECAUSE OF THE CONFIGURATION OF THE TRACK AND TRYING TO GET THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH ADEQUATE PARKING SO THAT, UH, PEOPLE AREN'T PARKING ON STREETS AND ET CETERA, TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT ON THAT TRACK.

AND AS THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER, UH, WE NEGOTIATED WITH THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER AND, UH, SAID THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD AGREE TO AND WE BELIEVE WILL NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT, UH, THE MARKETABILITY OR THE FUTURE VALUE OF OUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND YOU SAID THAT, UH, YOUR EXPERTS HAD LOOKED AT THIS INTERSECTION AND THEY THOUGHT THAT IT WAS ADEQUATE.

NOW WE'VE GOT AN OPENING RIGHT HERE ON 180 3.

WE'VE GOT ONE, RIGHT.

PRETTY MUCH WHERE THE TRAFFIC NARROWS DOWN AND THAT'S WHERE YOU MERGED TO COME ON IN.

AND I BELIEVE YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER OPENING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT EMPTIES INTO 2 79 TO 76.

IS THAT CORRECT? OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING? WE DO NOT HAVE, UH, AN OPENING THAT OPENS OUT ONTO 2 76.

WE HAVE TWO OPENINGS.

MULTIPLE ZONING DISTRICTS IN THEM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE FAIRLY INTENSE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, LIKE THESE THAT ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.

I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. HAWKINS.

UM, I, I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE POINT THAT, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, THE DR.

STYLES BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE, UM, ABOUT THE SETBACKS.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT'S SORT OF NONSENSE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS ISSUE BEFORE, RIGHT.

UM, I THINK STAFF POINTED OUT A PRETTY, UM, IMPORTANT THING WHEN THEY INCLUDED THAT IN THE DOCUMENT THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, PROJECTS THAT HAVE

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WHAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT GETS BUILT.

IT'S ALWAYS THE HOUSES AND THE ZONING WILL ALREADY BE APPROVED.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME THING THAT HAS HAPPENED AT A NUMBER OF OTHER PLACES IN TOWN, WHERE AS SOON AS SOMEBODY PULLS A PERMIT TO START BUILDING OVER THERE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOES TO SAY WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MY BACKYARD.

AND THAT WILL BE A MUCH EASIER CONVERSATION TO HAVE, AND WE'LL BE DOING BETTER BY OUR FUTURE CITIZENS WHO MOVE INTO THESE HOUSES BY ENSURING THAT THEIR SETBACK STANDARDS AREN'T THE SAME AS WE REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, IN MOST OTHER PLACES, WHEN YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.

UM, I ALSO, UH, I WAS TAKING A LOOK AT THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT AS IF, I MEAN, 2 76 AS WAS POINTED OUT BY ONE OF THE, UM, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO SPOKE IT, IT EFFECTIVELY DEAD ENDS.

THERE'S RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PAST THE END OF IT.

SO I CAN'T SEE ANY PRACTICAL REASON WHY THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY GO ONTO THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND, AND THEREBY SEE A MAJOR ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT.

AND THUS, I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BIG OF A DEAL IF WE SKIPPED THE SIDEWALK ON 2 76, UM, THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T HAVE ANY.

SO IT WOULD BE IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER OF THAT, NOT HAVING SIDEWALKS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE INTERNAL STREETS THAT IS ABSURD, ABSOLUTELY ABSURD.

I MEAN, NOBODY LIKES, WANTS TO CROSS THE STREET TO WALK DOWN THE OTHER SIDEWALK.

YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T ACTUALLY CHECK, BUT I PRESUME THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MINIMUM.

IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR ONE SIDEWALK, I GUARANTEE THEY'RE AIMING FOR THE NARROWEST SIDEWALKS THEY'RE ALLOWED.

WELL, THE NARROW SIDEWALKS THAT ARE ALLOWED ON A RESIDENTIAL, I GUESS THESE ARE DRIVES, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T GET TWO PEOPLE PAST EACH OTHER AT THE SAME TIME.

SO NOW YOU'RE FUNNELING THEM ALL ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET.

SO A HUNDRED PERCENT WILL NOT BE GETTING ON BOARD WITH THIS.

AND UNLESS THAT GETS REMOVED AND LIGHTS, OH MY GOODNESS.

COMMISSIONER CAUSE GROWTH, OF COURSE, DARK SKY COMPLIANCE.

I MEAN, I, I HEAR THE POINT THAT YOU'RE MAKING, BUT I DON'T FOLLOW THE LOGIC BECAUSE YOU CAN BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT AND STILL HAVE STRAIGHT LIGHTING.

YOU GET LOWER BUG RATING LIGHTS, AND YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE UPLIGHTING THAT YOU WOULD GET NORMALLY THAT WOULD THROW YOU OUT OF DARK SKY COMPLIANCE AND YOU CREATE A SAFE WALKABLE PLACE FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE WALKING DOWN THE STREET, PRESUMABLY AT SOME POINT TO GET TO THIS COMMERCIAL THAT WE IMAGINED GOING IN AT THE FRONT.

SO, UH, LIGHTING IS GOING TO BE A NO FOR ME, INTERNAL SIDEWALKS IS GOING TO BE A NO FOR ME, REDUCED SETBACK BACKS IS GOING TO BE A NOTE FOR ME.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF ON THIS SINCE IT'S PART OF THE TOD, WHAT PERCENTAGE WAS WHEN, WHEN THE APPLICATION WAS DONE, WAS IT SUPPOSED TO BE RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL? SO THIS IS IN THE CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT SECTOR OF THE TOD, AND IT DIDN'T HAVE A SET PERCENTAGES FOR THE DIFFERENT LAND USE CATEGORIES, BUT THE CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT SECTOR, THEY COME IN AND REQUEST A NEW BASE STONING DISTRICT BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THEY'RE NOT IN THE CORE.

CORRECT.

RIGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE OF THAT, RIGHT.

YOU'RE CORRECT.

BUT, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK YOU BRING UP AN INTERESTING POINT, WHICH IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

THEY MAY BE OUTSIDE OF THE, THE TOD ITSELF, BUT THEY DO RESIDE IN THE NEWEST, UPDATED FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UM, IN WHAT IS IT? IT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER PRIORITY, I THINK IS WHAT THIS ONE IS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD GET OUR MIXED DESIGNATIONS FROM.

I WAS A TINY BIT CONFUSED ABOUT THAT.

MAYBE I WAS READING THE, UH, DOCUMENT INCORRECTLY, BUT THE, UM, WHERE THAT DOES INCLUDE IN THE, IN THAT, THAT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION MULTI-FAMILY IS AN ALLOWED USE IN THAT ONE.

NO, IT IS NOT.

AND THEN THE AREA THAT'S IN THE CENTER IS ACTUALLY COMMERCIAL.

LIKE THAT SOUTHERN PIECE IS DESIGNATED AS COMMERCIAL'S PART OF THEIR PRODUCT.

RIGHT.

BUT I MEAN, SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, THE APPLICANT HAD SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, WELL, I THINK MULTI-FAMILY WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE.

I THINK HE WAS JUST SPEAKING TO REGULAR DEVELOPMENT.

YOU WILL SEE OFF ON THIS WHOLE ROAD.

WELL, AT LEAST I WILL JUST CLARIFY THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY A LEGITIMATE PART OF OUR DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T ALLOW THAT THERE, UH, AS PER THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO BRING UP ON THIS TOO, IS THERE'S GOING TO BE A HUGE PARKING ISSUE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, WE WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS WHERE WE HAVE THE STANDARD FOOT DRIVEWAY, THE 43% OF TEXANS DRIVE TRUCKS, AND THEY'RE BETWEEN 19 FEET AND 23 FEET IN SIZE.

THEY WON'T FIT IN THE GARAGE AND THEY WON'T FIT IN THE DRIVEWAY ONLY PLACE TO PUT THEM IN.

IT'S IN THE STREET.

NOW YOU'VE GOT 40 FOOT LOTS, AND YOU, YOU CAN'T PARK THE TRUCKS THERE.

UM, MY NEIGHBORHOOD'S SLIGHTLY LARGER THAN THIS.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE RESIDENTS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE CONSTANTLY FIGHTING OVER STREET

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PARKING.

AND I SEE THIS AS A BIG PROBLEM WITH THIS HIGH OF DENSITY WITHIN, UM, A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THIS, AND WITH AS MANY CURVES IN THE STREET AND THEM HAVING TO PARK ALONG THE CURVES, UM, THE, THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES ARE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME MOVING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

AND THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

YOU MENTIONED JUST BRIEFLY THIS INTERSECTION, AS WE HEARD FROM THE GROANS OF THE AUDIENCES, A DISASTER, WE OWN WHOLE THAT, UH, MOST OF THIS AREA OUT HERE IS LARGE LOTS.

UH, MOST OF WHAT THE TOD WANTED TO DO WAS GIVE US A CORE IN THIS TOWN THAT WAS WALKABLE.

THIS IS AT BEST ON THE VERY, VERY FRINGE OF THE TOD.

AND IT PUTS A PRETTY CONCENTRATED AREA, RIGHT IN THAT HORRIBLE INTERSECTION THAT MAYBE YOUR EXPERTS OUGHT TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AND MAYBE I DON'T KNOW, RENT A PLACE AND DRIVE IT EVERY DAY AND SEE IF THEY STILL HAVE THAT IDEA.

BUT THIS JUST IS SO MUCH DIFFERENT THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN THERE.

THEN WHAT IS THERE ALL THE WAY UP NORTH? THESE ARE, THESE ARE LARGE LOTS, AND YOU'VE, YOU'RE PUTTING A TREMENDOUS CONCENTRATION RIGHT THERE, RIGHT ON TOP OF THAT INTERSECTION THAT I THINK ALMOST ANYBODY WILL TELL YOU IS ONE OF THE MOST POORLY DESIGNED INTERSECTIONS YOU WILL EVER WANT TO HAVE TO DRIVE CONSTANTLY HAVING SAID THAT, BUT BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS, CAN I JUST ASK A QUICK QUESTION TO BETTER UNDERSTAND? CAUSE I DROVE THAT INTERSECTION AS WELL, UM, PRESUME FOR JUST A MOMENT THAT THE ENTRANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD WAS, UM, I GUESS IT WOULD BE FARTHER NORTH OF WHERE IT IS NOW, SO THAT IT DOESN'T LINE UP DIRECTLY WITH THAT LITTLE LEG OF A ROW THAT YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY TURN OFF OF ONE OF THE THREE FROM, UM, IF YOU WERE TO BE COMING FROM THE TOLL ROAD AND YOU WERE TO HEAD TOWARD AMANDA'S WAY CR 2 76 AND ALL THAT.

AND YOU WERE TO MAKE THAT, WHERE TO DRIVE UP THERE AND TRY AND MAKE A RIGHT-HAND TURN IN.

WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO CONTINUOUSLY FLOW TO GO IN AND MAKE ANOTHER RIGHT HAND? YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT? IS THAT, I GUESS THE QUESTION THAT I'M GETTING AT IS THAT IF SOMEBODY WERE TO TRY AND COME IN, I'M NOT TALKING EVEN ABOUT THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY, BUT IF SOMEBODY SAID, WELL, IT LOOKS LOGICAL, LET'S BUILD A ROAD RIGHT HERE.

IF YOU WERE TO COME IN OFF OF 180 3, HEADED NORTH ON THAT LITTLE JOG RIGHT THERE BEFORE YOU GET ONTO YEAH, EXACTLY.

HOW WOULD, IS THERE JUST A STOP SIGN? I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER SEEING A STOP SIGN.

NO, IT'S JUST, IF YOU JUST, SO WHAT WOULD, UH, WOULD SOME TRAFFIC STUDY BE DONE DURING ENGINEERING PHASE THAT MIGHT RESULT IN A, IN A LIGHT? SO WITH, UM, WITH THIS CURRENT REQUEST, UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES.

SO THE CITY OF LEANDRA IS ACCEPTING A FEE IN LIEU OF A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

BUT TXDOT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE REQUIRING A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, WHICH MAKES SENSE.

CAUSE ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE ON A TECH STOCK ROAD.

SO THE CITY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU NEED A LIGHT HERE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN CHARGE OF THAT ROADWAY, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WOULD BE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.

RIGHT.

SO IT COULD HAPPEN, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY OF KNOWING AT ALL.

TO GIVE THE APPLICANT ANOTHER CHANCE TO COMPLETE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH.

AND WE COULDN'T STOP IT OR REQUIRE IT SINCE IT'S NOT OUR, OUR ROADS.

I HAD SECOND, THE COMMISSIONER'S MOTION.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY BY COMMISSIONER STYLES.

AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINES, ALL IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR

[10. Discuss and consider action on Tree Removal Case 21-TRP-001 regarding removal of two Heritage Trees associated with the East San Gabriel Waterline extension generally located on the north side of the future extension of San Gabriel Pkwy, east of CR 270, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Discussion Consider Action]

AGENDA.

ITEM.

NUMBER 10, DISCUSS CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING, OH, WE NEED TO GET A COMMISSIONER MAN.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, DISCUSS CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 Z ZERO 16 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF S F U TO BE SINGLE-FAMILY URBAN AND LC TO BE LOCAL COMMERCIAL, TO CREATE THE HAVEN AND SAN GABRIEL MINOR POD WITH A BASE ZONING OF L C TO A LOCAL COMMERCIAL AND ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 4.995 ACRES IN SIZE AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE SOUTH NORTH OF SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY AND THE EAST OF BAGHDAD ROAD, THE ANDREW WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STEPH PRESENTATION AND COMMISSION.

THIS IS THE SECOND MEETING FOR THIS REQUEST.

THIS REQUEST WAS POSTPONED

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ALL THE UPDATED NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH, UH, SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

SORRY.

UH, I'M ASSUMING WE DIDN'T HAVE A APPLICANT PRESENTATION FOR THIS DUTY.

I'M BILLY JOHNSON, ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS WITH MY BUSINESS PARTNER, DOUG MARTINI.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR SEEING US AGAIN.

UH, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AGAIN IN FRONT OF YOU.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT STAFF HAS SAID WE WENT BACK AND, UM, INTRODUCED OURSELF PERSONALLY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HANDED OUT ANOTHER 40 FIRES TO, UM, EVEN GO BEYOND THAT 500 FOOT RADIUS AS WE WERE INSTRUCTED, UM, TO DATE, WE'VE NOT HAD ANY RESPONSES THAT WE'VE SEEN BACK.

UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT AGAIN, W WHAT OUR PROPOSAL IS FOR YOU GUYS, SO THAT YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR US, BUT, UM, THE FACILITY IS GOING TO BE AN ASSISTED LIVING MEMORY CARE FACILITY, UH, COMPRISING OF, UM, 70 TOTAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 50 OF WHICH ARE A ASSISTED LIVING AND 20 OF WHICH ARE MEMORY CARE UNITS.

AND WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 69 ONSITE PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS, UM, MORE THAN SUFFICIENT FOR US FACILITY OF THIS SIZE, BECAUSE MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS DO NOT DRIVE.

UM, IT'S MOSTLY FOR STAFF, FOR VISITORS, UM, RESIDENTS HAVING VISITORS BACK AND FORTH.

WE'VE DECIDED TO, UH, DESIGN THIS FACILITY.

OUR ARCHITECT IS FROM LEANDER, UM, LIVES, VERY CLOSE TO THIS FACILITY.

UH, THE DESIGN ENCOMPASSES THE, UH, AESTHETIC THAT IT'S IN KEEPING WITH THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE AROUND.

SOME OF THE MATERIALS ARE VERY, UM, UH, COHESIVE TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT ARE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET RIGHT NEXT TO US.

SO WE BELIEVE THAT OUR FACILITY WILL FIT IN VERY NICELY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AT THE SAME TIME, ALL OF OUR FACILITIES ARE DESIGNED TO SO THAT WE BECOME ONE WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WE ARE VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, ALL OF OUR FACILITIES, UM, ENCOMPASS, WE ACTUALLY GET OUT IN THE ENVIRONMENT INTO THE, IN COMMUNITY TO TRY TO PRESENT TO THEM THAT WE'RE, WE, WE BELONG.

THEY BELONG TO US.

AND WE, WE ARE TRYING NOT TO BE ONE OF THESE FACILITIES THAT JUST KIND OF COMES IN AND PLOPS THEMSELVES DOWN.

WE ACTUALLY ARE ENGAGED.

THAT'S WHY WE ACTUALLY PERSONALLY WENT OUT AND INTRODUCED OURSELVES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO IN ADDITION TO WHAT I'M DOUG MARTINI WITH THE GUN GROUP, IN ADDITION TO, WE DID HAND DELIVER, UH, LETTERS TO THE REQUIRED ADDRESSES, AND WE ALSO MAILED IT IN AS WELL.

SO IT WENT OUT IN TWO DIFFERENT METHODS.

AT THIS POINT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER, MAN.

UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT WASN'T ANSWERED LAST TIME.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE 20 MONTHS I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION, THIS COMMISSION ESPECIALLY HAS BEEN VERY, UM, UH, COGNIZANT AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC WAS NOTIFIED.

SO IT WASN'T A STRIKE ON YOU THAT WE ASKED YOU TO GO BACK AND DO THAT.

IT WAS JUST US BEING CONSISTENT IN ENSURING THAT THE PUBLIC WAS PROPERLY NOTIFIED FOR THIS ACTION.

SO I'M GOOD.

THANKS.

GOOD.

THANKS, MR. GUYS, GIRL, SIMPLY THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE EXTRA STEP.

I THINK, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT YOUR PROJECT.

I THINK IT HELPS TO, TO, UH, SWAY THE RESIDENTS OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN.

OPEN COMMUNICATION, I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT THING.

AND, UM, I'M STILL A FAN OF THE PROJECT, SO THANK YOU, MR. HAMPTON.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING COMMISSIONER STYLES AND THANK YOU.

PROJECT IS WHAT, UH, OUR ZONING WAS MEANT TO HAVE THERE.

I WISH Y'ALL LOOK.

WE HAVE A DEVELOPER SHOW UP AND THERE'S 500 ANGRY PEOPLE HERE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER IONS.

I HAVE NOTHING.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UH, ONE OF THE MAIN THRUSTS AND, UH, OPENING THE DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE DEVELOPERS AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE IS YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE THE AMOUNT OF RUMORS THAT CAN GET STARTED AND THE AMOUNT OF ANGST THAT COMES BETWEEN THEM.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE TWO TYPES OF HEARINGS HERE.

ONE OF THEM IS NOBODY SHOWS UP AND IT GETS, UH, APPROVED AND GOES ON.

AND THEN YOU HAVE 500 ANGRY PEOPLE SHOW UP LATER, OR

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AND WE LISTEN TO EVERYBODY SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES.

WHEN WE REACH OUT BEFOREHAND, IT'S NOT FOR THE ABUSE OF THE DEVELOPERS.

IT'S SO THAT THE DEVELOPERS GET HEARD AND THE WORD COMES DIRECTLY FROM THE MOUTH.

AND THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE OF LEANDRA.

AND THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM, MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER COSGRAVE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STYLES, ALL IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER 11, DISCUSS CONSIDER ACTION ON TRUE REMOVAL CASE 21 TRPA 0 0 1 REGARDING THE REMOVAL OF TWO HERITAGE TREES ASSOCIATED WITH THE EAST SAN GABRIEL WATERLINE EXTENSION JOURNAL LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY EAST COUNTY ROAD TWO 70 LEE LEANDER, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS, THE STAFF PRESENTATION EVENING COMMISSIONERS MICHAEL TENACITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

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[11. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-016 to amend the current zoning of SFU-2-B (Single-Family Urban) and LC-2-B (Local Commercial) to create the Haven at San Gabriel Minor PUD (Planned Unit Development) with base zoning of LC-2-A (Local Commercial) on one parcel of land approximately 4.995 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R501146; and generally located north of San Gabriel Pkwy and east of Bagdad Rd, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Discussion Consider Action]

SO THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE TREE REMOVAL PROCESS.

THE APPLICANT, THE CITY OF LEANDER IS REQUESTING TO REMOVE ONE HERITAGE TREE MEASURED AT 37 CALIBER BRANCHES AND 11 SIGNIFICANT TREES MEASURED AT 286 CALIBER INCHES.

UH, THIS REQUEST IS PART OF THE CITY OF LEANDER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT 20 DASH CIP DASH 0 0 9.

THE SAN GABRIEL WATERLINE 180 3, A TWO PALMERA.

THE UTILITY EXTENSION WILL TAKE PLACE CONCURRENTLY WITH THE ROADWAY EXTENSION.

AND, UH, THIS PROJECT INCLUDES WORK ALONG THE EXISTING AND THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY FROM PLEASANT HILL ROAD, ADJACENT TO THE BRYSON SUBDIVISION AND MOVING EASTWARD TOWARDS LOGAN DELLWAY AND THE PALMERO RIDGE SUBDIVISION.

UH, THERE IS SIGNIFICANT TREE COVER, UH, IN, IN THIS AREA AND WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED.

THE TREES, UH, PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL AT THIS TIME ONLY INCLUDE THOSE THAT ARE ALONG WITH THE WATER LINE EXTENSION.

UH, THIS PROJECT CURRENTLY IS PROPOSING TO REMOVE 20% OF THE TREES BETWEEN EIGHT AND 18 CALIPER INCHES.

THE REMAINING 30% OF THE SAVED TREES MAY BE USED AS TREE CREDIT, UH, WITH THE TREE SAVE AS LONG AS WELL AS THE TREES SAVED BELOW EIGHT CALIPER INCHES.

UH, THIS PROJECT WILL REQUIRE MITIGATION FOR THE REMAINING 261 CALIPER INCHES AND, UH, THE ADDITIONAL HERITAGE TREE REMOVAL FEE OF $300 PER CALIPER INCH REMOVED.

AND I BELIEVE TONY BETTIS OUR CIP PROJECT MANAGERS HERE, AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND YOU SIR, NO PUBLIC HEARING, UM, NO APPLICANT PRESENTATION.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER HINES.

WELL, OKAY.

I HAD TO LOOK THROUGH THE EXHIBITS AND THE TREES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE DON'T LOOK, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I GUESS ONE COULD ARGUE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT THE, THE BEST LOOKING TREES RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY ARE IN THEIR NATURAL STATE.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I'M ON THE FENCE ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, I GET MAD ABOUT WITH DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY COME IN AND THEY SHOW US TREE REMOVALS IS WHEN YOU CAN TELL, BY THE WAY IT WAS DRAWN, THAT THEY MADE NO ATTEMPT WHATSOEVER TO MITIGATE FOR THE TREES.

THIS LOOKS LIKE YOU JUST DREW A LINE FROM ONE END POINT OF THE ROAD TO THE OTHER.

AND I DON'T, I'M STARTING TO FEEL NOW, LIKE, WHY SHOULDN'T WE HOLD THE CITY TO THE SAME STANDARD THAT WE HOLD THE DEVELOPERS TOO.

I MEAN, THERE ARE CLEARLY SPACES HERE ON THE EXACT VISUALS.

THEY SHOWED US WHERE THERE ARE LESS TREES.

I MEAN, CLEARLY YOU'VE GOT TO CONNECT THE ROAD.

WHAT'S DO WE KNOW WHAT THE DESIGN SPEED OF SAN GABRIEL IS GOING TO BE 30? OKAY, WELL, A 30 MILE PER HOUR ROAD CAN MEANDER ALL OVER THE PLACE ALL DAY LONG.

YOU DON'T NEED A STRAIGHT ROAD TO DO 30 MILES AN HOUR.

SO I THINK I CAME INTO THIS SAYING, WELL, IT'S NOT SO BAD, BUT NOW I FEEL LIKE, I MEAN, I COULD HAVE DRAWN A LINE FROM ONE END OF THE ENDED STREET TO THE OTHER, AND I WOULD HAVE TAKEN OUT, GOD KNOWS HOW MANY TREES AND THAT LOOKS LIKE WHAT HAPPENED HERE.

SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT THRILLED WITH THIS SUBMITTAL.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE MR. SOUTH.

I DO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HINES ON THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARDS AS EVERYBODY ELSE.

AND IN THAT SPIRIT, I NEED TO ASK, ARE WE, IS THE CITY NOT REQUIRED TO PUT UP SIGNS, NOTIFYING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A HEARING HERE BEFORE US? SO THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

IT'S JUST A TREE REMOVAL REQUEST.

SO NO ONE WOULD HAVE TO PUT UP SIGNS, EVEN IF IT WAS A REGULAR DEVELOPER.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

NOW, ADDRESSING THAT, THIS LOOKED LIKE IT WAS JUST DRAWN IN A STRAIGHT LINE.

WELL, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO GET WATER TO FLOW, WE CAN'T MEANDER THE PIPES AROUND.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES

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YOU HAVE TO DRAW A STRAIGHT LINE THAT COULD YOU HAVE MOVED IT BACK AND FORTH POSSIBLY, BUT THIS IS A VERY HEAVILY WOODED AREA.

UM, I DROVE THERE.

IN FACT, THE CONSTRUCTION GUYS CAME OVER AND ASKED, WHAT, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE? THERE WAS NO WAY THAT SOME OF THESE TREES ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO GO IN.

MY CONCERN ALSO IS THIS BECAUSE IT IS SO HEAVILY WOODED, ARE WE TAKING OUT ENOUGH TO WHERE ROOTS ARE NOT GOING TO COME BACK HERE AND TAKE THIS WATER LINE OUT? UH, OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NOTHING.

THANK YOU, MR. HAMPTON.

I APPRECIATE SEEING THE PICTURES OF THE TREES THAT WILL BE REMOVED.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

AND THEN THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

DOCTORS TELL US LOT ABOUT THE ROOTS.

UH, SOMETHING I WOULDN'T LIKE IS COMING BACK AND SAYING, WE WANT TO REMOVE SOME MORE TREES, SO THAT'S FINE.

IT'S, IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT, UM, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK BECAUSE THIS IS JUST THE WATERLINE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK, COME BACK WITH THE ROADWAY PROJECT AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE OUT MORE TREES.

UM, THE OTHER THING YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IS, UM, THIS, THIS ROAD IS, HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO THE CITY AND, UM, IT, IT WAS ON THE EDGE OF DIFFERENT PROPERTIES, SO IT DIDN'T DIVIDE A PROPERTY.

SO WE KIND OF HAVE A SET AREA.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO TRY TO MEANDER THE ROAD, UM, IN A DIFFERENT WAY TO AVOID TREES.

LIKE WHEN A DEVELOPER DOES AN ENTIRE SUBDIVISION, THEY HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE THEY OWN ALL THE LAND CAN CONFINED TO THAT SPACE.

UH, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND TAKE ALL THE TREES THEN THAT YOU'LL NEED FOR THE ROAD ALSO? SO THAT, THAT WAS OUR INITIAL SUGGESTION.

AND, UM, I THINK THEY'RE STILL TALKING THROUGH THE ACTUAL PAVEMENT LOCATION.

SO MAYBE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY.

SOME OF THE TREES WOULD BE SAVED AT THAT STAGE, BUT THEY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WATER LINE TODAY.

SO THEY WERE GOING TO STICK WITH THE KNOWN, UM, SO THEY DIDN'T TAKE OUT MORE TREES THAN THEY NEEDED TO.

I THINK I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT.

I WOULD RATHER THEM COME AND ASK US TO HAVE MORE TREES REMOVED THAN WOULD BE NECESSARY.

AND THEN YOU SAY, I CAN SAVE 20 OF THESE TREES.

THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING.

UH, I DO HAVE A CONCERN AND THAT WE SAY THESE TREES HAVE TO BE REMOVED AND THEN COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, THE WATERLINE AND THE, UH, ROADWAY ARE DIFFERENT AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REMOVE MORE TREES POSSIBLY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM COMBINED.

AND IT'S NOT THAT I'M A TREE HUGGER.

I DO LOVE TREES, BUT, UH, THERE, THERE HAS TO BE A BALANCE AND WE WANT TO SEE WHAT'S RIGHT FOR EVERYBODY AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS MANY TREES SAVED AS POSSIBLE.

MR. COSGROVE.

UM, MR. GRIFFIN, THANK YOU.

I, THAT WAS THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR ABOUT, ABOUT, WE WERE CONSTRAINED THAT WE CAN'T MOVE THIS ROAD, THAT, THAT, UM, IS HELPFUL, UH, BECAUSE I REALLY DO LIKE THE TREES.

MAYBE I'M A TREE HUGGER.

I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK THAT THEY'RE IMPORTANT.

UM, BUT, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT I REALLY WISH WE WOULD START TO LOOK AT SOME INNOVATIVE WAYS TO DESIGN ROADS USING MODULAR CONSTRUCTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD POSSIBLY AVOID SOME OF THESE ISSUES GOING FORWARD.

UH, MAYBE NOT IN MY LIFETIME, BUT WE'D BETTER START LOOKING AT.

SO I, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE MITIGATION FEE, THE TREE REMOVAL FEE, WHERE DOES THAT MONEY GO? WE HAVE A HERITAGE TREE FUND THAT IT GOES INTO, AND THEN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT USES THAT TO PLANT TREES IN PARKS AND OTHER AREAS.

AND SO FOR A SITUATION LIKE THIS, WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM? WE HAVE, UM, A, A BUDGET FOR THE ROAD PROJECT, SO THAT, THAT WOULD HAVE TO PAY TOWARDS THE FUND.

RIGHT? CAUSE I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S MECHANISMS IN PLACE SO THAT THE CITY'S NOT BEING A BAD ACTOR.

CORRECT.

ALTHOUGH WHAT COMMISSIONER HINES WAS REFERRING TO EARLIER AND JUST DRAWING A STRAIGHT LINE, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S, THERE'S SITUATIONS PACED BECAUSE WE'RE JUST PAYING OURSELVES.

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH WE PAY.

UM, OKAY.

NO THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION.

THANKS.

I, I WOULDN'T MIND JUST, UM, I FEEL LIKE, I THINK I UNDERSTOOD SOMETHING THAT MRS. GRIFFIN SAID, BUT JUST FOR CLARITY SAKE, YOU, YOU SAID THAT THE WATER LINE THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THIS IS THEY'VE PRESENTED TO US, THE TREES TO BE REMOVED, TO MAKE THE WATER LINE, UH, FUNCTION, RIGHT.

THIS IS WHAT THEY NEED TO TAKE OUT, BUT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY GIVEN THAT THEY'RE STILL REVIEWING PAVEMENT LOCATION, THAT WHEN THE PAVEMENT COMES THROUGH, THAT REQUEST MIGHT ATTEMPT TO ACCOMMODATE FOR, UM, MORE TREES THAN THIS IMAGE WOULD HAVE US BELIEVE.

IF YOU JUST WIPED OUT EVERY TREE IN BETWEEN THE TWO CURB LINES SHOWN ON THESE DRAWINGS.

I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE'LL FIND OUT MORE AS THEY FINISHED THE DESIGN OF THE ROAD.

WELL, I TEND TO, I TAKE, I TAKE DR.

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STYLES, HIS POINT, I MEAN, WE GOT TO RUN THE WATER AND THE WAY THAT WATER RUNS.

AND SO I SUPPOSE I CAN GET ON BOARD WITH THIS CONCEPTUALLY, ESPECIALLY HAVING A LOOK AT THE TREES, BUT I WILL SAY THAT IF THIS ROAD COMES THROUGH HERE AND CLEARLY NO THOUGHT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ATTEMPTING TO MITIGATE SOME TREE REMOVAL TO RATHER STOP SOME TREE REMOVAL.

I WILL NOT BE GOOD.

I JUST AM.

PRE-WARNING EVERYBODY.

THAT'LL BE A BIG FAT.

NO, FROM ME, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.