[1. Call to Order.]
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WELCOME TO THE CITY OF LEANDER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, AUGUST 12TH, 2021.
[2. Roll Call.]
LET THE RECORD SHOW ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT AND THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.[3. Director’s report to the Planning & Zoning Commission on actions taken by the City Council at the August 5, 2021 meeting]
UM, GOOD EVENING.I'M REPORTING ON ITEMS THAT WERE, UM, PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 5TH THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED BY THE COMMISSION.
UM, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE SECOND READING OF THE 0.1 83, A MINOR PUD, THE EDGEWOOD PRELIMINARY PLAT.
THE SECOND READING OF HAVEN AT SAN GABRIEL, MINOR PRIDE, THE SECOND READING OF THE LANDER MARKETPLACE PUD CONCEPT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLAT.
AND THEY ALSO COMPLETED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THE FIRST READING OF THE MONARCH PUD.
THAT ONE WILL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK WITH COUNCIL.
LET ME ASK A QUESTION ON THIS, OR IS THAT NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS ON THE HEARING THAT THEY HELD ON THE PUT UP ON 2 76, THAT WE VOTED FIVE TO NOTHING AGAINST THEM.
THEY VOTED SEVEN TO ZERO FOUR.
CAN YOU GO OVER WHAT CHANGES THEY MADE BETWEEN WHEN IT CAME HERE TO WHEN IT WENT TO THEM AND WENT FROM ZERO TO FIVE TO SEVEN TO ZERO? YEAH.
THEY MADE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO THE APPLICATION.
UM, THEY PROPOSED A SCREENING WALL BETWEEN THE MONARCH PUD AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
THEY ADDED SETBACKS OR ADDITIONAL SETBACKS BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS.
THEY UPGRADED THE, UM, WHAT'S OF THE SIDEWALKS AND THEY ADDED GUEST PARKING.
SO THEY ADDRESS A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE MENTIONED BY THE COMMISSION.
SO THE COUNCIL WAS SUPPORTIVE, BUT THEY DID NOT ADJUST THE COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE PUTTER.
SO WE'RE COMMERCIAL WAS ADJACENT TO THEIR PROPOSED HOMES.
THEY DID NOT ADD EXTRA SHUT DOWN 15 FEET.
WELL, THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS QUESTIONING WAS THAT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP AT THAT MEETING IN THEIR APPLICATION, IT STATED THAT THEY HAD MADE CONTACT WITH THE WILEY ESTATES HOA AND A SPECIFIC GENTLEMAN THAT GENTLEMAN STOOD UP AND SAID, THERE IS NO WILDLY ESTATES HOA, AND THEY DIDN'T MAKE CONTACT WITH ME.
AND, UH, QUITE A FEW OF THE, UH, PEOPLE WERE THERE AND SAID WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED EITHER.
THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THERE SEEMS TO BE A LACK OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN US AND THE COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING ON HERE.
AND AGAIN, I BRING UP THE, UH, CONSIDERATION QUITE POSSIBLY, UH, IF THERE IS SOME COMMUNICATION AS TO WHY WE TURN SOMETHING DOWN AND THEY COME BACK AND SAY, WHY THEY OVERRULED? I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR EVERYBODY.
I'M ONLY, I'M A SHORT TIMER HERE, SO I CAN TALK.
I PROVIDED A LIST TO THE COUNCIL OF ALL THE CONCERNS THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE MEETING, IN THEIR AGENDA PACKET.
AND THE GENTLEMAN YOU SPOKE OF DID TALK TO THE APPLICANT, BUT HE CONFIRMED, HE DIDN'T REPRESENT THE HOA.
IT WAS JUST A TYPO IN THEIR COMMUNICATION, BUT THEY DID SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT CAME UP IS THEY HAD JUST MENTIONED THAT, UM, TXDOT HAD SAID THAT THE TURN LANE THERE WAS ADEQUATE.
AND I'M CURIOUS WHY NOBODY ASKED FOR TXDOT TO COME UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT HOW MANY HOUSES COULD GO IN THERE.
THAT WOULD STILL BE OKAY IN THAT TURN LANE WOULD BE ADEQUATE.
AND I WOULD, UM, BASICALLY RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL, BEFORE THEY GO THROUGH THE SECOND READING, GO UP THERE BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX IN THE EVENING, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, THEIR CHOICE AND TAKE THAT TURN SO THEY CAN EXPERIENCE IT.
UM, TXDOT CAN BE A GIANT BUREAUCRACY AND WHEN THEY MAKE A MISTAKE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A COUPLE OF DEATHS BEFORE THEY ADMIT THAT MAYBE WE OUGHT TO DO IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON CERTAIN THINGS.
I THINK WE'RE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON THIS ONE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL SAY SO, BUT GOING FORWARD, IT WOULD BE NICE IF THERE WAS BETTER COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THIS BOARD AND THE COUNCIL AND VICE VERSA.
CAUSE WE WENT FROM ZERO TO FIVE TO SEVEN TO ZERO, AND I WAS A LITTLE BEFUDDLED BY IT ALL.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BRING MY CONCERNS UP THIS TIME.
WE'LL, UH, REVIEW THE MEETING PROTOCOL AND CITIZENS' COMMENTS.
I, WHEN I, UH, ON THE AGENDA ITEMS, I WILL CALL YOUR NAME TO COME UP AND SPEAK AND YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.
SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT
[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
AGENDA.UH, THEY WERE GOING TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER SIX FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO THIS ACTION WOULD BE ITEMS NUMBER SEVEN THROUGH NUMBER NINE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN
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THROUGH NINE OH SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ON ITEM NUMBER SIX,
[6. Approval of Subdivision Case 20-FP-011 regarding Bluffview Phase 2 Final Plat on three parcels of land approximately 25.6397 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R587375, R587377, and R403529; generally located at the eastern terminus of Gabriels Horn Road, to the east of the Bluffview Ph 1 subdivision, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. ]
I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF.THE ITEM IS ON THE APPROVAL OF THE EXTENSION OF THE APPLICATION EXPIRATION FOR SUBDIVISION CASE 17 T O D P I C P 0 1 5.
TYLER VALE, COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE SOUTHWEST OF INTERSECTION, 180 3 AND SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY, LEANDRA WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS.
AND I BELIEVE I CAN, I CAN START THIS.
I, I, I ASKED TO HAVE THIS REMOVED, CAUSE I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION.
IT SAYS THAT IT CAN'T EXCEED ONE YEAR YET.
THIS SEEMS LIKE THIS IS MORE THAN 16 MONTHS PAST THE, YOU KNOW, THE END OF THE YEAR AND THE APPLICATION FOR THE EXTENSION WAS MADE IN MAY.
AND JUST WONDERING WHAT KIND OF ISSUE WE HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE MEAT ON WHAT THIS IS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, I CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE AT GRANTING AN EXTENSION BECAUSE I WENT AND LOOKED AT THE SITE.
IT DOESN'T LOOK ANYTHING'S BEEN DONE THERE AT ALL.
SO, UM, THE APPLICANT'S NOT PRESENT, BUT I CAN EXPLAIN FROM THE CITY SIDE.
UM, SO THEY WENT THROUGH THE LONG FORM PROCESS.
UM, 2018, WE APPROVED THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND THEY CAME FOR THE FINAL PLATS MISSING, SORRY, FROM THE TIMELINE.
UM, THEY CAME IN AFTER THAT AND THEY GOT THEIR FINAL PLAT RECORDED.
AND WHEN THEY DID THAT, THEY POSTED FISCAL FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE REQUIRED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS.
THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS INCLUDED SOME UTILITIES AS WELL AS SIDEWALKS.
AND THEN THEY DIDN'T START THE PROJECT IMMEDIATELY DURING ALL OF THAT.
WE HAD, UM, WE HAD COVID AND THEN THEY'VE HAD SOME OTHER DELAYS AND NOW THEY'VE COME IN AND THEY'RE REDESIGNING THE SITE.
IT WAS A GAS STATION THAT, UM, WAS FOLLOWING OUR PREVIOUS ORDINANCE AND THEY CHANGED IT TO CHANGE THE PUMP ORIENTATION.
SO PREVIOUSLY YOUR, YOUR PELVIS COULD NOT BE BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE BUILDING.
SO THEY WERE CHANGING IT TO MAKE IT, UH, A MORE TRADITIONAL GAS STATION DESIGN.
SO WITH THAT, IT TAKES EXTRA TIME.
SO THEY'VE ASKED FOR AN EXTENSION ON THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO THE CITY TO DENY THE EXTENSION.
IF WE WERE TO DENY IT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO START OVER AND IT'S JUST MORE TIME AND MONEY.
NONE OF OUR ROLES HAVE CHANGED A BIT AFFECT THE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER SIX WITH THAT I WOULD APPROVE, UH, OR MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SIX AS WELL.
WAS THAT GOOD MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ALL WE NEED TO GET, UH, MR. STYLES, ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.
[10. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action on Subdivision Case 20-SFP-012 to approve the Lot 52 & 53 Roundmountain Oaks Short Form Final Plat on one parcel of land approximately 8.133 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Travis Central Appraisal District Parcel 557192; generally located 900 ft. south of the intersection of Honeycomb Ln. and Honeycomb Dr., Leander, Travis County, Texas. Discuss and consider action on Subdivision Case 20-SFP-012 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]
NUMBER 10, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION ON SUBDIVISION CASE 20 S F P 0 1 2 TO APPROVE THE LOT 52 AND THREE ROUND MOUNTAIN OAKS SHORT FORM FINAL PLAT ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 8.13, THREE ACRES IN SIZE AND GENERALLY LOCATED 900 FEET SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF HONEYCOMB LANE AND HONEYCOMB DRIVE LANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION, EVENING COMMISSIONER EVENING COMMISSIONERS MICHAELTHIS REQUEST IS THE FINAL STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS AND PURSUANT TO SECTION 2, 1, 2 0.005 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, APPROVAL BY THE MUNICIPALITY IS REQUIRED SINCE THE SHORT FORM FINAL PLAT SATISFIES THE APPLICABLE REGULATIONS WITHOUT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.
THAT'LL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND KIM, DID WE HAVE A APPLICANT PRESENTATION? OKAY.
AT THIS POINT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
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ONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF THEM.YOU DON'T HAVE TO, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS MARCIA TOMLINSON.
AND MY ADDRESS IS 14 500 HONEYCOMB DRIVE.
AND THIS IS A PROPERTY WE BOUGHT 40 YEARS AGO NOW AND JUST WANTED TO SPLIT IT IN HALF.
SO WE COULD SELL TWO, FOUR ACRE TRACKS BECAUSE LAND IS SO EXPENSIVE RIGHT NOW WHO COULD AFFORD THE EIGHT.
BUT, UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE'RE NOT PUTTING ANYTHING ON IT.
WE'RE JUST SELLING IT AS RAW LAND THOUGH.
MY GOODNESS WHO HAVE A GUEST, THEY WOULD COST THAT MUCH MONEY TO PUT AN IMAGINARY LINE DOWN.
UM, BUT, UH, SO THAT THAT'S IT.
WE ARE IN A, AN ANCHORAGE SUBDIVISION.
AND SO THERE'S ONLY THAT MOST OF THE ANCHORAGE SUBDIVISIONS, I MEAN IN THERE ARE ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO 20 ACRES ON THERE.
NO ONE ELSE WANTED TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF THEM.
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER, MAN.
I HAVE NOTHING COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
COMMISSIONER STYLES, NO QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER.
I HAVE NOTHING EITHER MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND AND I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HIGH AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
COSGRAVE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[11. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-003 and Subdivision Case 21-CP-003 to adopt the Kauffman Loop Townhouse Concept Plan and to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to create the Kauffman Loop Townhouses Planned Unit Development (PUD) with the SFT-2-A (Single-Family Townhouse) base zoning district on one parcel of land approximately 13.8 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R430223; and generally located to the northwest of the intersection Kauffman Loop and CR 267, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-003 and consider action regarding Subdivision Case 21-CP-003 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]
ITEM.NUMBER 11, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 Z 0 0 3 AND SUBDIVISION CASE 21, CP 0 0 3.
TO ADOPT THE KAUFMAN LOOP TOWNHOUSE CONCEPT PLAN INTO A MINT.
THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR, ONE DASH B TO CREATE THE COFFIN LOOP TOWNHOUSES PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH AN S F T TO A SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE BASED ZONING DISTRICT ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 13.8 ACRES IN SIZE, AND GENERALLY LOCATED AS NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF KAUFMAN LOOP AND COUNTY ROAD 2 67, LAND WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, MICHAEL TENACITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SO THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS AND, UH, THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP, UH, DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE UNITS WITH PUBLIC STREETS AND ALLEYS.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF KAUFFMAN LOOP AND SOUTH OF STATE HIGHWAY 29.
UH, THE PROPERTIES EAST OF THE BIOTRACK SUBDIVISION AND JUST NORTH OF RW, WEST RANCH SUBDIVISION, BOTH OF WHICH ARE EITHER UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR UNDER REVIEW.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NEAR THE FUTURE INTERSECTION OF KAUFMAN LOOP AND STATE HIGHWAY 29.
UH, THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT TREE COVER ONSITE, AND HOWEVER, ANY DEVELOPMENT WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE CITY OF LEE ANDREWS TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS.
UH, THIS PROPERTY INCLUDES, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, FRONTAGE ALONG KAUFMAN LOOP, RIGHT OVER HERE, AND AS WELL AS FRONTAGE ALONG COUNTY ROAD, UH, 2 67, THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIES BOTH OF THESE AS FUTURE ARTERIAL ROADWAYS.
UM, SO THE NEED FOR ROADWAY ADEQUACY FEES OR TIA WILL BE EVALUATED DURING THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS BY OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
UH, THE PROPERTY WILL NEED TO EXTEND WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITIES TO THE SITE.
UH, THE ZONING REQUEST OF THE SFT DASH TWO DASH A UH, SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE IS PERMITTED ZONING TYPE WITHIN THE ACTIVITY CENTER, UH, AS WELL AS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UH, THIS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ALSO INCLUDES HIGHER STANDARDS, UH, TO AN INCREASED MINIMUM DWELLING SIZE, UH, STANDARDS TO THE MINIMUM, A LOT AREA FOR EACH DWELLING UNIT.
A MEETING INCREASES THE AMOUNT OF, UH, ENCLOSED GARAGES FOR EACH UNIT AND IT, UH, ENHANCES THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS.
THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING A WAIVER TO THE SIDE SETBACKS FOR EACH UNIT, UM, AS LONG AS THEY ABIDE BY THE FIRE AND BUILDING CODES, AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF THIS POINT? WE WILL CLOSE
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THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER HINES.MR. STYLES, HOW MANY TOWNHOUSES WILL BE BUILT? I BELIEVE IT'S 101 IN THEIR CONCEPT PLAN, BUT LET ME DOUBLE CHECK.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
UM, UM, I SEE THEM THE MINIMUM, THE MINIMUM SIZE IS 900 SQUARE FOOT.
WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM SIZE FOR A TOWNHOME OR IS THERE A MAXIMUM SIZE MARK BAKER WITH SEC PLANNING? I THINK THEY'LL RANGE THE BIG, A NUMBER OF TWO STORIES IN HERE.
SO I THINK YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE SOMEWHERE IN THE AVERAGE IN THE 12 TO 1500 WOULD BE MY ASSUMPTION.
I KNOW YOU HAVE THE DRAWINGS HERE, BUT THERE IS THERE A DRAWING OF A KIND, I BELIEVE THERE'S AN ALLEY AND THEN A DRIVE, UH, ENCLOSED PARKING.
DO YOU HAVE A DRAWING OF THAT? WHAT THE ALLEY WOULD LOOK LIKE OR HOW I'M CURIOUS IF IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE LIKE VERY SHORT DRIVEWAYS WHERE YOU CAN ONLY GET YOUR CARS INSIDE, BUT YOU CAN'T PARK ON THE VOUCHER.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT LENGTH, THIS, THIS PROJECT, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE CRYSTAL SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THERE IS JUST THE NARROW APRON BEFORE THE GARAGE DOOR, WHICH IS CHALLENGED.
SO WE'VE ACTUALLY WRITTEN THIS ONE TO WHERE THE BACK OF THESE UNITS WOULD HAVE A FULL DRIVEWAY BEFORE THE GARAGE DOOR.
AND THAT, THAT I THINK WILL HELP ALLEVIATE SOME GUEST PARKING ISSUES AND THAT TYPE OF THING, UM, BY HAVING THAT PARKING FULL PARKING DRIVEWAY IN THE BACK.
THANK YOU, MR. CARPENTER, ARE THESE A RENTAL OR PURCHASE UNITS? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN DECIDED YET.
I THINK THE INTENT IS FOR PROBABLY A COMBINATION OF BOTH.
WHAT ABOUT IF THEY GO TO MOVE TO PURCHASE? WOULD THERE BE DEED RESTRICTIONS IN AN HOA SETUP? YES, THAT'D BE AN HOA SET UP FOR IT.
MR. COSGROVE, WHY DO YOU NEED THREE FOOT, A YARD SIDE SETBACK, JUST A YARD STICK WHERE THAT SEEMS AWFUL SMALL.
IT ACTUALLY BE SIX FEET IN BETWEEN UNITS.
SO YOU'VE GOT THREE, THREE AND THREE.
AND SO IT'S JUST, WHEN YOU HAVE A NARROWER PRODUCT LIKE THIS, THE STREET SCENE JUST LOOKS MORE APPROPRIATE.
THE CLOSER THE UNITS ARE TOGETHER, JUST VISUALLY AND THEN HAVING BIG SETBACKS BETWEEN EACH UNIT.
AND THEN QUITE FRANKLY, IT HELPS WITH DENSITY AS WELL.
UM, LIKE THE LADY MENTIONED BEFORE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN WHAT THE, THE PRICE OF LAND IS GOING FOR THESE DAYS.
SO EVERY, EVERY BIT HELPS, BUT IT DOES, IT DOES CREATE SOME MORE COST TO THE UNIT AS WELL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE FIRE RATED WALLS AND EVES AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO WE'D CERTAINLY HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THE UNITS TO THAT, THOSE STANDARDS.
I DO APPRECIATE THE, THE FULL DRIVES IN THE BACK THOUGH.
I THINK THAT'S A NICE FEATURE COMPARATIVE TO OTHER ALLEY LOADS THAT WE'VE SEEN.
MR. MAN, MY QUESTION IS REALLY FROM MS. GRIFFIN.
UH, SO THIS IS AN ACT IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP HAS ZONED AS A WELL PLOTTED AS A ACTIVITY CENTER.
UM, WHAT ARE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES GOING TO BE? BECAUSE WITH OUR ACTIVITY CENTER, BASED ON A NEW COMP PLAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE ZERO TO 30% RESIDENTIAL, BUT I KNOW THAT JUST ACROSS KAUFMAN LOOP TO THE EAST, WE COUNCIL JUST APPROVED A LARGE RESIDENTIAL PLOT, UH, OF MULTI-FAMILY.
UM, SO HOW, HOW IS THIS INCORPORATING INTO THAT? AND ARE WE GOING TO START PIGEONHOLING THE NEXT APPLICANT THAT COMES IN INTO NOT BEING ABLE TO DO RESIDENTIAL BASED ON WHAT THE COMP PLAN SAYS OR WE'RE GOING AGAINST THEIR COMP PLAN? SO WHY DO THAT ANYWAY? YEAH.
SO, UM, I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY TO THE KIND OF THE NORTH IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF RONALD REAGAN, THE STATE HIGHWAY 29 AND REAGAN TOWNHOUSE OR MULTIFAMILY.
UM, SO THAT ONE CAME IN BEFORE OUR COMP PLAN WAS ADOPTED.
UM, THIS ONE WOULD COUNT TOWARDS THAT RESIDENTIAL PERCENTAGE AND WHEN WE EVALUATE FUTURE PROJECTS, WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
SO THAT MEANS IN THE FUTURE, THEY MIGHT BE LIMITED TO COMMERCIAL.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU SHARE WITH APPLICANTS AS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IT? OKAY, GOOD.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH OR ARE YOU SHARING THAT INFORMATION WITH THEM? YEAH.
THAT'S IT JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ARE ALL
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OF THESE SETBACKS, UH, THREE FEET.SO I'D BE SIX FEET IN BETWEEN UNITS FOR ALL OF THEM OR IS THIS OKAY? YEAH.
AND, UH, UM, BIG PROPS ON THE EXTRA, EXTRA PARKING, UH, CAN KEEP IN MIND A TRUCK, 42% OF TEXANS DRIVE TRUCKS.
AND THEY AVERAGE BETWEEN 19 FEET AND A FEW INCHES UP TO 21 FEET.
UM, AND THE LAST THING WAS THE BAR W RANCH WEST.
DID THEY, ARE THEY PART OF BARD W RANCH OR W IS PROJECTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT, THAT ROAD, RIGHT? YEAH.
RIGHT WHERE HE'S POINTING THIS ISN'T PART OF THAT PROJECT.
BUT BAR, SO THEY'RE OUT OF THE 500 FEET THEN.
SO THEY'RE WITHIN 500 FEET OF THAT PROPERTY, BUT THAT'S NOT OWNED BY INDIVIDUALS OR THE BAR W HOA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S STILL IN BARCLAY WEDEMEYER'S NAME.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THE DUE DILIGENCE WAS DONE THERE.
SO THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM, MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
THEN WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HEINZ SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED PASSES FIVE TO, TO COMMISSIONER MEHAN AND COMMISSIONER, UM, HAMPTON OPPOSING.
DID YOU WANT TO LEAVE A REASON FOR COUNCIL AS TO WHAT POSITION, YOU KNOW, AND GOING BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING BEFORE ABOUT THE PERCENTAGES WITH ACTIVITY CENTER AND, AND, UH, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S 30%, BUT WHAT WE'VE ESSENTIALLY DONE HERE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP IS EVERYTHING OFF OF KAUFMAN LOOP WOULD BE A BETTER SUITED FOR THE COMMERCIAL SPACE AND THEN PUSH THAT BACK BECAUSE EVERYTHING TO THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY NOW IS STILL AN ACTIVITY CENTER.
WE'VE JUST PRETTY MUCH DESIGNATED THAT IT'S GOING TO NOW BE RESIDENTIAL, BECAUSE IF YOU PUT COMMERCIAL BACK THERE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE PROFITABLE BECAUSE THERE'S NO REAL ACCESS TO IT.
CAUSE YOU'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL THAN COMMERCIAL THAN RESIDENTIAL AGAIN.
SO I THINK WE'RE KIND OF PIECEMEALING THIS INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT IT FROM A HOLISTIC POINT OF VIEW.
IF I'M MIKE, IT WAS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAD WE KNOWN THAT WE WERE 11 YEARS AND ACTUALLY THERE ARE THOSE THAT SAY WE WERE A GREAT DEAL CLOSER THAN 11 YEARS TO RUNNING OUT OF OUR ABILITY TO MATE OUR WATER OBLIGATIONS, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WOULD HAVE LOOKED A LOT DIFFERENT.
IF WE HAD HAD THAT INFORMATION, THEN I DON'T BELIEVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVEN TODAY MIRRORS THE REALITIES ON THE GROUND.
WE ARE, UM, PUTTING IN A LOT OF THINGS THAT AREN'T OR SMALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
AND I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST WHAT WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE I'VE HEARD DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE ARGUMENT IS TO WHICH USES MORE WATER, A SINGLE FAMILY, LARGE LOT, OR A APARTMENT.
AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO LOOK INTO WHAT THE WATER USAGE PER PERSON IS ON EACH OF THESE THINGS AND ADJUST SOME OF OUR THINKING ACCORDINGLY, I RECOMMENDED 16 YEARS AGO THAT WE LOOKED VERY, VERY DEEPLY INTO OUR WATER NEEDS BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO LIMIT THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
AND I WAS IGNORED ROUNDLY 16 YEARS HAS COME AND GONE.
AND ABSOLUTELY NO WITH NOTHING WAS DONE.
THERE WERE DOWN TO 11 YEARS OR LESS, AND WE'RE STILL KICKING THAT CAN AGAIN, DOWN THE ROAD.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD START LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE SMALLER HOUSES AND SEEING IF THEY ARE MORE EFFICIENT OR LESS EFFICIENT.
AND IF THE BIG LOTS ARE MORE WATER USAGE PER CAPITAL Y AND ADJUST SOME OF OUR REGULATIONS ACCORDINGLY, I'VE VOTED FOR THIS ONE, BUT I'M STARTING TO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THESE SMALL LOTS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE WATER USAGE OF THESE SMALLER LOTS, AS OPPOSED TO THE BIGGER ONES AND THE WISE AND AWARE FOR ALS FOR WHY THAT IS HAPPENING.
THANK YOU 12, BUT IN THE MORNING.
AND SO I HEAR IN A HERD AND SORRY, I'M SORRY.
IN THE MIDDLE OF THINGS, BUT ALSO I WANT TO SAY MICHAEL
THEY WERE SO KIND AND SO NICE AND SO PATIENT,
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OKAY.[12. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-022 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to create the Mason Tract – CR 175 Minor Planned Unit Development (PUD) with the SFC-2-B (Single-Family Compact) and SFU-2-B (Single-Family Urban) base zoning districts on one parcel of land approximately 111.569 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R032112; and generally located to the northwest of the intersection CR 177 and CR 175, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Applicant/Agent: Costello, Inc. (Steven Buffum) on behalf of CSM-Mason Family, LP. (Carolyn Meihaus). Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]
ITEM, NUMBER 12, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 Z 0 22, TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR.ONE DASH B, SINGLE-FAMILY RURAL TO CREATE THE MASON TRACK CR 1 75 MINOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND WITH AN S F C TWO DASH B AN S F U TWO DASH B BASED ZONING DISTRICTS ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 111.5, SIX, NINE ACRES IN SIZE, AND GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE NORTHWEST INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 1 77 COUNTY ROAD, 1 75 LEANDER ONCE IN COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS CORDELL WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SO THIS IS, THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
THE APPLICANT IS SUBMITTED A ANNEXATION REQUEST.
THAT'S FOLLOWING THIS ZONING REQUEST AS WELL.
UH, THE REQUEST IS FOR, UH, THE DESIGNATION OF, UH, ESTABLISHED, UH, TO ESTABLISH MIXED RESIDENTIAL USES SFC TO BE AN SFU, TO BE AT THE SINGLE FAMILY, COMPACT SINGLE FAMILY, URBAN, UH, SOME SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS.
THIS PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO AN ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AS STATED ABOVE ANNEXATION OF THE PROPERTY IS REQUIRED WHEN THEY, UH, PROPERTY DEVELOPS THE ANNEXATION REQUEST 21 DASH EIGHT DASH 0 0 4 WILL BE REVIEWED CONCURRENTLY WITH THE ZONING REQUEST.
SO THE, A BUDDING ZONING TO THE NORTH, WE HAVE ETJ, UH, AGRICULTURE WITH THE HOMESTEAD.
UH, THERE IS ALSO A PROPERTY WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, THE EDGEWOOD SUBDIVISION.
THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A PRELIMINARY PLANNING PROCESS.
THESE GUYS ARE HERE SFC TO BE, UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THEM SOME MORE.
A LITTLE LATER TO THE EAST IS ETJ.
IT'S UNDEVELOPED TO THE SOUTH IS ALSO ETJ.
THEY ARE CURRENTLY A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY CREEK MEADOWS, UH, STATES, UH, TO THE WEST IS SF R ONE B ZONING, AND IT'S UNDEVELOPED WITH A HOMESTEAD, A PHYSICAL FEATURE TO POINT OUT, UH, THE BRUSHY CREEK FLOODPLAIN RUNS ALONG THE SIDE OF THE TRACKS RIGHT HERE.
UH, THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN CALLS OUT, UH, THE ULTIMATE BUILD-OUT OF CR 1 77 NCR, 1 75 TO BE A FOUR-LANE ARTERIAL.
UH, ADDITIONALLY THERE, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN THAT'S PART OF THE, UH, CONFERENCE OF PLAN, UH, WILL REQUIRE A PROPOSED, UH, LET'S SEE, TRAIL SEGMENT FOR BOTH BRUSHY CREEK MAIN BRANCH AS TO THE WEST, AS WELL AS OLD SAM BASH TRAIL TO THE EAST.
I BELIEVE IT FOLLOWS THIS RIGHT AWAY HERE, EXISTING UTILITIES ON SITE.
THERE IS A 36 INCH GRAVITY, A WATER LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE WEST SIDE OF THE TRACK.
LOOKS LIKE IT RUNS, UH, ALONG THE CREEK.
APPLICANT WILL POTENTIALLY CONNECT TO WATER LINE PROVIDED BY THE EDGEWOOD SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTHEAST.
AGAIN, THAT'S THIS PROPERTY UP HERE? UM, SO DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS, UH, STAFF MET WITH THE DEVELOPERS ON SIX 14 OF 2001.
EARLIER THIS YEAR, NO CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE PROJECT.
POST DEVELOPMENT MEETING NOTIFICATIONS NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN, UH, THE PAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION, UH, STAFF MAILED THE 200 FOOT BUFFER, UH, NOTICES.
THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING SIGNAGE POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING CITY COUNCIL WILL ALSO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING IN A READING OF THE ORDINANCE.
SO THE TIMELINE IS IN YOUR REPORT, A PUBLIC NOTIFICATION.
SO STAFF MAIL, THE 200 FOOT BUFFER NOTICES.
THE AGENT REACHED OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS OF PROPERTIES, ZONED TO SINGLE FAMILY OR ANY PROPERTIES USED AS SINGLE FAMILY USES WITHIN 500 FEET, UH, AS PER ARTICLE 10 SECTION D OF THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.
ANY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION LOCATED WITHIN 500 FEET WERE ALSO CONTACTED.
UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS HELD AT 7:00 PM ON JULY 28TH, 2001 VIA ZOOM CONFERENCE CALL.
THEY HAD A TOTAL OF NINE RESIDENTS OR PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ATTENDED THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
UH, AND THIS WAS A, A BULLET, A COUPLE OF THE CONCERNS.
UH, THERE WAS SOME CURRENT CONCERNS ADDRESSING CONGESTION ON TWO C R 1 75.
THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON SCHOOL BUS ISSUES ON CR 1 77, UH, CONNECTION ONTO CR ONE 70 FOR EMERGENCY SERVICE USES AND CURRENT HOMEOWNERS MAILBOXES ON COUNTRY ROAD 1 77.
AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM IF THEY, UH, IF THEY IMPACT DEVELOPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE, MAYBE TO REROUTE RELOCATED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, THE FOLLOWING CHANGES WERE MADE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES DISCUSSED.
THE DEVELOPER WILL BE WORKING THROUGH A TRAFFIC
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STUDY WITH THE NORTHEAST TRACK, THE EDGEWOOD DEVELOPER.SO THE FALL REPORT IS ATTACHED IN YOUR PACKET AS ATTACHMENT NUMBER EIGHT.
ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT STUFF RECEIVED ONE LETTER IN OPPOSITION, UH, FROM, UH, MR. JOHN SPECK, HE, UH, QUOTED HIS OPPOSITION, UH, AS HE WAS OPPOSED TO, UH, NO HIGHER DENSITY AND THEY SHOULD CONFORM TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS WITH LARGE RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
UH, THE APPROVAL CRITERIA, THIS MINOR PUD REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND WILL PROVIDE A MIXTURE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING TYPES AND DENSITY OF A, OF AT MINIMUM 20%, BOTH THE ESTABLISHED BASED OWNINGS OF SFC TWO, B, AND S F U TO B WILL FOLLOW THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE CURRENT COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.
UM, STEPH HAS NO FURTHER ITEMS TO DISCUSS.
SO AT THIS POINT I WILL OPEN IT UP TO THE DEVELOPER.
HE'S HERE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION AND THEN AFTERWARDS STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY YOU SIR.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS MIKE BOSWELL WITH TOLL BROTHERS.
UH, I'M JOINED TONIGHT WITH, UH, MY, UH, TEAM HERE FROM IN TOWN.
I GOT THREE OF THOSE GUYS AND THEN OUR ENGINEER, UH, MR. STEVE BUFFUM WITH CASTELLO, UH, ADDRESS IS, UM, 1320 ARROW POINT DRIVE, SUITE 4 0 1, UH, CEDAR PARK, TEXAS 7 8 6 1 3.
UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN INTRODUCTION AS TO WHO WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A COMPANY WE'RE PUBLICLY TRADED, UH, BEEN AROUND 54 YEARS.
IF YOU DRIVE AROUND OUR COMMUNITIES OR LOOK IN OUR DIVISION, UH, AREAS, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING HERE BECAUSE THIS THING IS ADVANCING ITSELF ON ITS OWN.
UM, IF YOU, IF YOU WALKED THROUGH, UM, OUR DIVISION OFFICES, UH, SALES AREAS, YOU'LL SEE THESE PLAQUES, UM, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE HERE, AND THIS IS PART OF OUR CORPORATE CULTURE, UH, IT'S INGRAINED AND EMBEDDED IN HOW WE APPROACH PROBLEMS AND, AND PEOPLE THAT WE COME ACROSS, UH, JUST SOME REAL OVERVIEW OF OUR COMPANY.
UH, WE'RE ON THE FORTUNE FIVE HUNDREDS, UH, MOST ADMIRE MIRED COMPANIES.
WE'RE THE NUMBER ONE HOME BUILDER ON THAT LIST, UH, FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS, ACTUALLY IT'S 10 YEARS NOW.
UM, BUT WITH THAT SAID, UH, WE'VE BUILT OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND HOMES AND SINCE 2000, AND WE ARE PRESENT IN 24 STATES, UH, 50 MARKETS.
AND SO THIS IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE VARIETY OF PRODUCT AND, AND REAL ESTATE THAT WE WORK IN.
WE TAKE OUR, OUR CORPORATE CULTURE VERY SERIOUSLY.
UM, WE PREFER A, UH, UH, ESG REPORT ANNUALLY.
IT'S KIND OF NEAT TO LOOK AT, UH, THAT ESG STANDS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL, SOCIETAL AND GOVERNANCE, AND IT'S A PART OF HOW WE RUN OUR DAY-TO-DAY BUSINESS.
UM, IF YOU LOOK ON THIS, THIS IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT WORK THAT WE'VE DONE JUST IN ONE YEAR, UH, THE ACREAGE THAT WE'VE PRESERVED, THE TRAILS AND MILES OF TRAILS THAT WE'VE BUILT AND, UM, TREES AND WHATNOT THAT WE'VE PLANTED.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF APPLICATIONS IN FRONT OF THE CITY AT THIS TIME.
UH, WE ARE NOT HERE FOR A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT AND DEPENDING ON WHAT CITY YOU'RE IN AND WHAT TOWN THAT, THAT, THAT SOMETIMES IT'S A CONTENTIOUS HEARING, BUT WE'RE NOT HERE FOR THAT.
UM, WE HAVE AN ANNEXATION CASE THAT WENT BEFORE COUNCIL ON THE FIFTH.
UH, THEY ALLOWED IT THAT TO MOVE FORWARD AND SET THE HEARINGS FOR, UH, THE, THE SEPTEMBER, THE SIXTH.
I BELIEVE I'VE GOT ANOTHER SLIDE.
UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE THIS PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT.
UH, OUR PLAN IS TO PUT 330 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON IT.
UH, IT IS IN WITH THE ETJ RIGHT NOW.
UH, IT IS, UH, SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS STEPH POINTED OUT, UH, THAT MEETING THAT WE HAD, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, ACT ON THE PRELIMINARY SUBMISSION, THE PETITION, UH, WAS ON AUGUST THE FIFTH.
UM, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING SET FOR SEPTEMBER 2ND FOR IT, RIGHT THERE.
SORT OF READ IT AS PART OF THE ZONING APPLICATION THAT WE ARE ALSO, UH, RUNNING THROUGH CONCURRENTLY.
UH, WE ARE PURSUING A, UH, A MINOR PUD, UM, WITH THE TWO ZONING STANDARDS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE FIFTIES AND THE SIXTIES.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY WITHIN THE CITY'S WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE AREA, UH, AS PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH.
UM, WE DID REACH OUT TO FOLKS WITHIN 200 AND 500 FEET.
A TOTAL OF 17 LETTERS WERE SENT OUT.
WE ALSO SENT OUT, UH, COMMUNICATIONS TO THE SERITA VALLEY HOA.
A COUPLE OF THOSE FOLKS WERE ON THE ZOOM
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CALL AS WELL.UH, WHEN WE HAD THAT MEETING, UM, WHEN WE SAY INDIVIDUALS, I MEAN, THAT'S THE NUMBER OF EMAILS THAT WE LOGGED IN.
AND SO AS PART OF THAT EXERCISE, WE LEARNED OF A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT CONCERN THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, UM, PRINCIPALLY, UH, THE CURRENT TRAFFIC ON 1 75 AND 1 77, UH, THE IMPACT OF NOT JUST OUR DEVELOPMENT, BUT DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL IN THE AREA, AND THEN HOW THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IF THEY'RE MADE AND WHEN THEY'RE MADE, UH, WOULD BE PROGRAMMED SO THAT IT DIDN'T INCONVENIENCE THEM.
I MEAN, IT'S, UH, NOT, NOT AN EASY TO SHUT DOWN AN ENTIRE SEGMENT OF ROAD TO RELOCATE A MAILBOX, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, WE UNDERSTOOD THEIR CONCERN AND WE'VE DRIVEN IT.
UM, WE HAD A COUPLE OF FOLKS, UH, JERRY THOMAS WAS A RESIDENT THAT LIVED OFF OF 1 77.
UH, HE WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT 1 77.
HE WALKED US THROUGH SOME EVENTS THAT HAPPENED WITH A SCHOOL BUS BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2018, A LOW WATER CROSSING.
UH, W WE DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON THAT.
WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT WITH STAFF AND TRIED TO WALK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE THE WAY OF AMELIORATING THAT SITUATION? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? I MEAN, FOR US, IT'S OFF SITE, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M A FATHER OF THREE CHILDREN.
I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, AS, AS A FATHER, I CONSTANTLY FIND MYSELF PUSHING MY SELF INTO DARK CORNERS SO THAT MY CHILDREN DON'T FIND BAD THINGS THERE.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, UH, WE ALSO HAD SOME CO UH, RESIDENTS FROM THE SERITA VALLEY, UH, ATTEND THE MEETING AND THEY ARE VERY CRITICALLY INTERESTED IN WHEN THE BUS BRUSHY CREEK TRAIL WILL BE MADE AND HOW THAT CONNECTION WILL BE MADE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A SPECIFIC ANSWER FOR THAT TONIGHT, BUT WE DO, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT.
WE, WE TYPICALLY BUILD THAT INTO OUR AMENITIES AND WE UNDERSTAND INTERCONNECTING THOSE SO THAT PEOPLE, WHEN THEY GET UP IN THE MORNING, THEY WANT TO WALK, THEY CAN HAVE A NICE CIRCUIT TO WALK.
UM, GOING BACK TO THE FIRST TWO THINGS I JUST WANTED TO PARENT ETHICALLY LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE PREPARED A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT DRAFT IS SITTING IN STAFF'S, UH, QUEUE FOR REVIEW.
UM, THERE ARE SOME EXISTING INTERSECTIONS THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THAT NEED WORK.
UM, THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF TURN LANES THAT WE'LL NEED TO ADDRESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR CONCEPT PLAN.
AND, AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF OUR, UH, WORK ON SITE, JUST A, A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE CONCEPT PLAN.
UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, IT'S 111 ACRES, UH, APPROXIMATELY 30% OPEN SPACE, UH, 330 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.
UH, AS I SAID EARLIER, IT'S THE CITY OF LEANDER WATER AND SEWER AND ATMOS GAS.
UM, I ALSO GOT THE, UH, DIFFERENT SCHOOLS THAT THIS WOULD FEED INTO WRITTEN THERE FOR YOU, UH, BASIC, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE.
I MEAN, THIS IS WHERE WE START WITH THE BASE HOUSE AND THEN OPTIONS START GOING UP FROM THERE.
UH, THIS IS JUST THE BANDS THAT WE'VE CREATED AND THE PRICE POINTS THAT WE'VE, UH, SELECTED FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, NEARLY EVERYTHING HERE WILL BE A TWO OR THREE CAR GARAGE.
UH, WE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OUR CULTURE AND I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THAT WE DO THIS EVERY TIME, BUT MOST OF OUR BUYERS ARE, ARE NOT FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS.
WE, UH, WE HAVE A REPUTATION AND IT IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR PEOPLE TO BUY TWO AND THREE HOMES FROM US.
I MEAN, THAT WE'VE HAD THOSE IN AUSTIN.
WE HAVE THOSE IN EVERY DIVISION IN, BUT THE RECORD, UM, IS SIX.
UM, I WON'T TELL YOU THAT EVERYBODY BUYS SIX HOMES FROM US, BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, WE DO APPRECIATE, UH, REPEAT BUSINESSES.
I'VE OUTLINED HERE, JUST SOME OF THE BASIC PRODUCTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
UH, THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PROF CURRENTLY.
UM, THESE ARE HOMES THAT ARE BUILT IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY.
UH, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS.
WE HAVE FARM, WE HAVE JUST DIFFERENT TYPES OF PRODUCTS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A LOOK AND THEME TO THEM AS THEY MOVE THROUGH MILESTONES.
WE HAD OUR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ON JULY OR JUNE 14TH, OUR ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION WAS JULY 13TH.
WE DID OUR PUBLIC NOTIFICATION MEETING ON JULY 28TH.
UH, WE HAD OUR FIRST CITY COUNCIL HEARING ON THE FIFTH, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
AND THEN WE HAVE A MEETING ON SEPTEMBER THE SECOND TO DISCUSS THE ANNEXATION.
UM, WE WOULD AT A FUTURE DATE PUT FORWARD A CONCEPT PLAN.
THAT'LL WORK OUT WHERE WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE AMENITY CENTER, WHAT OUR BUFFERING AND SCREENING WILL LOOK LIKE A LONG 1 75, THAT'LL REFINE ANY OF THE ROADWAY, GEOMETRY AND SECTIONS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN ALONG 1 75 AND 1 77.
UM, AT THAT POINT WE WOULD ALSO KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE OPEN SPACE AREAS AND PARK PROGRAMMING THAT WE WOULD DO.
UM, AND AT THAT POINT WE WOULD ALSO, UH,
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YOU KNOW, KIND OF HAVE A FRAMEWORK OF WHAT THE HOA, WE TYPICALLY PUT THESE IN HOS SO THAT THEY CAN MAINTAIN THE COMMON SPACES, UH, JUST A GENERIC TIMELINE.WE WOULD HOPE TO HAVE ALL THIS BEHIND US AND ALL THE APPROVALS SECURED BY THE 22ND OF MAY.
AND, UH, HAVE THE PROJECT DELIVERED WITH THE FIRST PHASE SOMEWHERE AROUND JULY OF 2023 WITH THAT SAID, UM, I'VE AGAIN, I'VE GOT, UH, ONE OF MY TEAM MEMBERS HERE WITH ME.
UH, I'VE ALSO GOT STEVE BUFFAM.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AS, AS YOU WORK THROUGH THIS, UM, FEEL FREE TO FIRE AWAY.
UM, UH, I'VE, I'VE FOUND IN MY CAREER AND WITH TOLL TOLL IS VERY SENSITIVE TO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, I, I TELL PEOPLE THAT I'M TOO BALL FAT AND UGLY TO RUN AWAY FROM MY PROBLEMS. SO I TYPICALLY TRY TO HANDLE THEM HANDS, HANDS ON, HEAD ON.
SO WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
AT THIS POINT, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DID HAVE, UM, ONE PERSON WANTED HIS, UM, TURNED INTO CARD IS RG THOMAS AT 4 88 COUNTY ROAD, 1 77 WAS FOR THIS.
DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK, SIR? OKAY.
IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I LIVE AT FOUR 80 COUNTY ROAD, 1 77.
AND DUE TO THE TIME STRAIGHT, I APOLOGIZE, BUT I'LL JUST READ MY PRESENTATION IF THAT'S OKAY.
UM, IF YOU'RE TRAVELING ON COUNTY ROAD, 1 77 EAST FROM, UH, RONALD REAGAN, MY HOME IS THE LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT BEFORE THE BRUSHY CREEK BRIDGE.
I'M THE ONE WITH THE BIG RED PILLARS, BIG RED BRICK PILLARS AND BROUGHT ON GATE AND EVERYTHING.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS AT THIS TIME WITH THE SUBDIVISION.
AS LONG AS THE CITY'S LAND ARE FULFILLS ZIPS OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE A ROADWAY THAT IS SAFE FOR THE LEVEL OF THE TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD.
UM, BEGINNING JUST EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD, 1 77 AND VALLEY VIEW DRIVE THE ROAD HAS NO SHOULDERS AND HAS GOALIES ON EITHER SIDE.
THERE WAS ONE AREA OVER A CULVERT THAT HAS ONLY ONE LANE WITH DROP-OFFS ON EITHER SIDE, ONLY ONE MARKER IDENTIFIES THIS CULVERT.
THE OTHER MARKERS HAVE ALL BEEN KNOCKED DOWN.
THOSE OF US WHO TRAVELED THIS ROAD FREQUENTLY KNOW ABOUT THIS DANGEROUS PART OF THE ROAD.
AND WE'LL WAIT UNTIL ONCOMING TRAFFIC PASSES OVER THIS SECTION.
ABOUT A MONTH AGO, THERE WAS ANOTHER MAJOR ACCIDENT RIGHT AFTER THIS LOCATION.
I'VE ALSO HAD MY PILLARS KNOCKED DOWN THREE TIMES IN RECENT YEARS, THERE ARE MAJOR SCARS ON THE TREES ALONG THE ROADWAY.
UH, AND MY FENCE HAS ALSO BEEN HIT ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.
UH, YOU SAW A PICTURE THAT, UH, MY PLEASURE TO MEET YOU, BY THE WAY, WHEREVER YOU WANT.
YOU SAW A PICTURE OF THE BRIDGE.
UH, THAT'S IN QUESTION HERE, YOU KNOW, THE STITCH KIND OF SLICK, THERE'VE BEEN MULTIPLE BICYCLE AND MOTORCYCLES, UH, SLIDING OFF THAT BRIDGE WHEN WATER IS AN INCH AND A HALF OVER THE BRIDGE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE HYDRO HYDROPLANING, UH, BUT FOR SOME REASON THAT ROAD IS REAL SLICK.
UH, WHEN IT'S JUST THE SLIGHTEST BIT DAMP.
UM, AS MIKE MENTIONED, THERE WAS ALSO BEEN MULTIPLE INCIDENCES OF VEHICLES OFF THE ROAD DURING HIGH WATER, BUT THE CITY'S ATTEMPTED TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM BY ERECTING BARRICADES ACROSS THE BRIDGE DURING HIGH WATER, BUT THAT CAUSES ME OTHER PROBLEMS, UH, FOR WHATEVER THE REASON, UH, WITH THAT BRIDGE BEING BLOCKED OFF DURING HIGH WATER, UH, MOTORISTS EITHER DON'T SEE THE INFANT SPIC, YOU HAVE SIGNS ON THE ROAD, OR THEY IGNORE THEM.
AND ALL OF THESE VEHICLES NOW DRIVE DOWN THROUGH THE BARRICADE AND HAVE TO USE OUR DRIVEWAY TO TURN AROUND.
IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO HAVE THREE OR FOUR VEHICLES AT A TIME TRYING TO TURN AROUND DOWN THERE.
AND, UH, MY WIFE AND I HAVE SEEN AS MANY AS EIGHT VEHICLES AT A TIME TRYING TO TURN AROUND DOWN THERE.
AND IT'S REALLY HUMOROUS TO WATCH, UH, A PICKUP TRUCK WITH A TRAILER TRYING TO TURN AROUND DOWN THERE.
UM, THESE DRIVERS ALSO, AREN'T VERY GOOD AT BACKING UP SINCE THEY BACKUP IN OUR DRIVEWAY, ACROSS OUR LANDSCAPING AND ACROSS OUR IRRIGATION SYSTEM.
ON THREE OCCASIONS, WE'VE ASKED THE CITY, UH, THE BARRICADE, MAY I CONTINUE? THANK YOU.
UH, WE'VE ASKED THE CITY TO PUT UP A BARRICADE AT THE ATTEMPT AT THE INTERSECTION OF VALLEY VIEW AND COUNTY ROAD 1 77 TO ACCOMMODATE THAT TURNAROUND.
BUT WHEN THE TRAFFIC FROM THE TWO SUBDIVISIONS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING THROUGH THIS ROAD, START COMING DOWN THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE UNEVEN WORSE PROBLEM.
SO, AS I STATED BEFORE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SUBDIVISION.
AS LONG AS THE CITY FULFILLS ITS OBLIGATIONS TO FIX THE ROAD, WHICH IS ALREADY DANGEROUS AND WON'T EVEN HANDLE THE TRAFFIC THAT IT HAS ON IT TODAY.
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TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AREA IF ANYBODY HAS ANY, THANK YOU.DID ANYBODY ELSE WAS TO SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT? UM, IF YOU'LL, YOU'LL NEED TO FILL OUT A CARD, YOU CAN TURN THAT IN AFTER YOU SPEAK, BUT YOU'LL FEEL STATE YOUR NAME AND THAT ADDRESS.
SHE'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU, KEVIN AND POPE JOY.
LAST NAME IS POPE JOY, P O P J A Y.
I LIVE AT 10 VALLEY VIEW CIRCLE.
I'M OUTSIDE, UNFORTUNATELY THE 250 OR 500 FEET OF THE ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THIS PROJECT.
MY NEIGHBOR JUST SPOKE TO YOU.
I'M NOT GOING TO PROBABLY TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME ON THE SAME, UH, REITERATION OF THESE, UH, CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE.
AND, UH, COUNCIL CAN PROBABLY LOOK UP PREVIOUS TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT WERE DONE ON THIS ROAD.
UM, THE TRAFFIC HAS INCREASED FIVE TENFOLD OVER THE LAST 24 TO 36 MONTHS, MAINLY DUE TO THE NEW PARKSIDE, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED.
AND NOW THERE'S EVEN MORE HAPPENING OFF OF 22, 43.
THIS ROAD FEEDS, UH, AT LEAST A COUPLE OF MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND, UH, AND A COUPLE OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
AND THE TRAFFIC HAS JUST BEEN UNBEARABLE AS IT FLIES BY.
WE HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING IN AND OUT OF OUR PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE IN AN AGRICULTURAL, UH, EQUESTRIAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE HORSES, UH, WHICH WE'D LIKE TO STILL RIDE AROUND, UH, TRAILERS THAT WE PULL.
AND IT'S BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE THIS ROAD AS MY, UH, AS MY NEIGHBORS ALREADY STATED EARLIER.
SO, UH, ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS THAT THAT PARTICULAR BRIDGE WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THE BUS INCIDENT, UH, WHICH HAS BEEN PRETTY INFAMOUS.
UM, THE, THE BRIDGE ITSELF HAS A VERY SPECIFIC WEIGHT LIMIT THAT DOES NOT, UH, DOES NOT ACCOMMODATE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, DUMP TRUCKS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO WE'RE VERY CURIOUS AS TO HOW THE, UH, DEVELOPER, UH, IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THIS ROAD, UM, AS THEY DEVELOP OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF THREE, FOUR YEARS, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, UH, AND IT DEFINITELY DOES NEED TO BE, UH, ADDRESSED BY THE CITY.
SO FOR THE RECORD, WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ROAD GETS TAKEN CARE OF, AND SPECIFICALLY THAT BRIDGE, UH, IS EXTREMELY INFAMOUS AND DANGEROUS.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF THEM? THE CARDS ARE LOCATED OUT IN LOBBY SORT OF THING HERE, BUT AT THIS POINT WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER HINES.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, MR. STYLES.
I AM CURIOUS AS TO HOW THE ROADS ARE GOING TO BE HANDLED THROUGH THE DEVELOPER AND THROUGH THE CITY.
IT IS A DIFFICULT TO TRAVEL BACK THERE, AND IT IS PRIMARILY RURAL BACK THERE.
I USED TO TRAVEL QUITE FREQUENTLY WHEN I WAS DOING A LOT OF LARGE ANIMAL WORK AND IT IS NOT SUITABLE FOR A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
UH, OBVIOUSLY WITH DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC, AND I'M VERY CURIOUS AS TO HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE HANDLED.
I SALUTE YOU FOR HAVING A TRAFFIC STUDY ON THERE NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND I'M GLAD Y'ALL ARE DOING STUFF LIKE THAT.
THE LAST THING I HAVE TO SAY IS ON AS A MEMBER, I GUESS, CAN I SAY THAT IS ON A HISTORICAL COMMUNITY TOO? OR AM I GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE FOR THAT ONE TOO? I HOPE THAT, UH, WHEN YOU NAMED THIS, THE STREETS, UH, YOU NAMED ONE OF THEM, CHRISTINE MASON, BECAUSE IF YOU DIDN'T NEVER KNEW HER, YOU MISSED OUT.
WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ANYWAY.
SO COME ON NOW, THE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS DID Y'ALL LOOK AT POSSIBLY GOING HALF AND HALF ON THE 50 AND SIXTIES.
WE W RATIOS THAT, YOU KNOW, BACK AT THE RULE OF THUMBS BASED ON VELOCITY THAT WE, WE KIND OF USE, UM, WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY PRICE SALES, RIGHT? AND SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T SELL OUT OF ONE BEFORE YOU SELL OUT OF THE OTHER.
SO THOSE HISTORICAL RATIOS ARE WHAT WE USE TO SET THAT MIX.
UM, AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE SLIDES UP, BUT, UH, IS IT PLAN TO HAVE THE MORE COMPACT IN THE TOP PART OF IT? AND THEN, OR I GUESS IN THIS DRAWING, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN THE, ON THE OUTSIDE GONNA HAVE, UH, URBAN, UM, YEAH, I, I DON'T HAVE THE CONCEPT, THE CONCEPT FOR THAT.
ONE MORE OVER TO, I THINK TO THE RIGHT NEXT SLIDE OVER I'M SORRY.
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UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.YOU SAID, MASON, WHAT WAS THE NAME, CHRISTINE.
IS THAT WHAT A K YOU'LL HAVE TO ASK? OKAY.
HERE'S HERE'S IT, WHEN WE LOOK FOR NAMES, OKAY.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU A COUPLE OF FUNNY STORIES IF YOU'LL REMEMBER ME.
SO YOU GO TO PLANO AND YOU SAY THE NAME HAGGARD OR HAGGARD.
THAT THAT MEANS FOUNDING FAMILY OF PLANO.
AND SO YOU SEE PLANT IN PLANO, YOU SAY HAGAR PARK AND WHATNOT.
YOU WANT TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW YOU NAME THINGS THERE.
I MEAN, THAT'S A FAMILY THAT CAME TO THIS STATE, YOU KNOW, LIKE 10 YEARS AFTER THE ALAMO.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE A FAMILY THAT WE'VE PURCHASED PROPERTY FROM WHOSE MOM WAS VERY IMPORTANT IN THE TEXAS EDUCATION, AS FAR AS FEMALE, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE TEXAS EDUCATION ASSOCIATION.
AND, AND SO WE SIMPLY TOOK HER NAME AND SAID, WE, WE CALLED IT CALLED THE SUBDIVISION VICKERY.
AND IT'S JUST VERY SIMPLY HER LAST NAME.
UM, WE'VE LEARNED LESSONS WITH NAMES ARE MEANINGFUL.
THEY HAVE THEIR IT'S LIKE MUSICAL NOTES.
UH, IF YOU GO TO A WHO CONCERT, YOU DON'T HEAR, YOU KNOW, EMINENCE FRONT.
YOU'RE LIKE, I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A WHO CONCERT.
AND SO, UM, YOU SET THOSE MILESTONES SO THAT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY RECOGNIZE THEM AND THEY, IT HONORS THE TRADITION AND THE HISTORY, WHICH IS BIG FOR US.
AND SO I'LL, I'LL DO THE RESEARCH ON THIS AND MAKE SURE A LOT OF STORES RUNS OUT.
OKAY, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER ARE JUST QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE PLANS FOR THE 1 77 UPGRADE OR DO WE KNOW OF ANY? SO THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY'RE WORKING ON TIA, SO THAT WOULD HELP US MAKE DECISIONS.
SO THERE'S NOT A CIP PROJECT IN PLACE FOR THAT AREA, BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THEY'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I HAD COMMISSIONER COSGRAVE.
ONE FROM MRS. DRIVEN, OR ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF WE GIVE THEM, IF THEY GET THIS MINOR PUD, THEY COULD BUILD WITHOUT ANYTHING HAPPENING IN TERMS OF IMPROVING THAT BRIDGE AND IN, IN TERMS OF IMPROVING THAT ROADWAY.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY GO THROUGH A PLANNING PROCESS AND PART OF THAT INCLUDES THIS TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY LOOK, THEY DO A SCOPING MEETING WITH ENGINEERING.
THEY LOOK AT ALL THE ROADS AND THE INTERSECTIONS AND THEY'LL COME UP WITH REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT, THAT, RIGHT.
IT'S JUST NOT PART OF THE ZONING PROCESS.
WE'RE JUST TALKING LAND USE RIGHT NOW.
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IF WE GIVE THEM THIS, WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU CAN HAVE THIS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THE, TO THE ROADS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS, UM, ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ARE, ARE A SEPARATE ISSUE THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
SO IF WE APPROVE THIS TODAY, IT DOESN'T MEAN, HEY.
UM, I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UH, THE MIX OF 60 TO TWO THIRDS PERCENT, FIFTIES, AND A THIRD SIXTIES, UM, WITH, WITH WHAT IS OUT THERE NOW.
UM, BUT I WILL SAY THIS, UH, I, I THINK TALL, YOU GUYS DO BIG PROJECTS.
UM, I BOUGHT SEVERAL OF YOUR HOUSES AND YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN QUALITY.
SO, UM, I DO HAVE A FEW CONCERNS.
UH, I THINK WE PROBABLY ALL DO HAVE A FEW CONCERNS.
UM, BUT, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW, MR. MAN.
SO MY CONCERNS ARE REALLY SIMILAR TO THE LAST ONE.
I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY AND LOOK AT WHAT'S AROUND THE PROPERTY AND WHAT THE, WHAT, UM, IS BEING ASKED TO BE PUT IN HERE, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW ON THE PRESENTATION, UH, SAYS ALMOST THREE UNITS PER ACRE FOR GROSS DENSITY, BUT WHEN YOU BREAK IT OUT TO ACTUAL LOT SIZE, IT'S REALLY 5.6 UNITS PER ACRE FOR THE SIXTIES AND, UH, 6.7 UNITS PER ACRE FOR THE FIFTIES.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD.
AND I, AND I, AND I DON'T MIND THAT TH THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THAT TYPE OF DENSITY, UM, AND, AND TRUST ME, I THINK YOUR PRODUCT IS GREAT, BUT NO, ONE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT.
IF I'M GOING TO PUT THAT TYPE OF DENSITY INTO THE CITY, THEN WE NEED TO DO IT AT A POINT WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD TO MOVE INTO IT IN THAT TYPE OF DENSE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THAT ON TOP OF MY CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GO FROM, UH, UM, THE SFC AND, UH, THE SFC LOTS, AND THEN RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, SFU OR SFR,
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UH, YOU KNOW, IT DOES JUST NO, NO, UH, BLEND OR GROWTH OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE DOING, THEY'RE JUST AS LIKE REPLIED IN THESE GUYS DOWN IN THE MIDDLE.
AND EVEN THOUGH THE LAND TO THE EAST IS IN THE ETJ RIGHT NOW, IT'S LIKELY TO BE JUST LIKE THIS ONE, IF THEY WANT TO DEVELOP IT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ANNEX IT.
AND IT'S GOING TO START OFF WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, INTERIM, UH, SFR.
AND WE'RE KIND OF PIGEONHOLING THEM INTO DOING SOME HIGHER DENSITY STUFF AS WELL OR COMMERCIAL.
I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS THERE, BUT IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL, UH, UH, FUTURE LAND USE MAP SAYS NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL.
AND SO THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF CUTS THE COMMERCIAL OUT OF IT.
SO TH THOSE ARE REALLY, MY CONCERNS IS WE'RE STILL KIND OF SKIPPING SPACES AND JUST DROPPING THINGS IN WHERE I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE.
I DON'T THINK IT CONFORMS WITH WHAT WE WANT IT, THAT WHAT WE PUT IN THE COMP PLAN.
I REALLY LIKED SEEING THE DEVELOPERS SITTING DOWN WITH THE COMMUNITY AND TALKING, AND I KNOW NOT EVERYTHING COMES OUT OF THIS, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS I GOT INVOLVED WITH THE CITY GOVERNANCE, BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE NEIGHBORHOODS AND DEVELOPERS TALK, UM, WHAT MAY NOT SEEM LIKE A MAJOR CHANGE FROM A DEVELOPER, UM, COULD MAKE A HUGE COMMUNITY VERY HAPPY.
AND I THINK, UM, DID THIS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW THERE, THERE HAS BEEN CONVERSATIONS, UM, CR 1 75 AND 1 77, BOTH HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE MASTER PLAN, THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN AS FOUR LANE ARTERIALS.
WHAT'S THAT WHAT THEY HAD? I CAN LOOK IT UP.
SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RE I I'VE DRIVEN THAT ROAD IN TO CALL IT A TWO LANE ROAD.
UM, I HELD MY BREATH AND I HAD, UH, THE TIME A TINY, UH, NISSAN.
AND WHEN ANOTHER CAR CAME, I PULLED OFF TO THE SIDE, CAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS LITERALLY THAT SCARY DRIVING DOWN THAT ROAD.
THEY'RE NOT GOING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUOUSLY BUILD WITHOUT IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
SO REST ASSURED THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, AND, UM, THAT THAT'S ALL I HAD THIS ISN'T ACTION ITEM.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL? I'LL SECOND.
IT HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HEINZ SECOND BY COMMISSIONER, UH, CARPENTER, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED, FIVE TO TWO COMMISSIONER MEHAN COMMISSIONER, UM, HAMPTON OPPOSED.
DID YOU WISH TO LEAVE A STATEMENT? OH, I SAID PLENTY ALREADY.
[13. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-023 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to SFC-2-A (Single-Family Compact) on one parcel of land approximately 28.254 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R566554; and generally located 1,500 feet to the northwest of the intersection CR 176 and Whisper Lane, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-023 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]
ON TO NUMBER 13, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 Z 0 23, TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR.ONE DASH B, SINGLE-FAMILY RURAL TO S F C TWO DASH A SINGLE-FAMILY COMPACT ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 28.25, FOUR ACRES IN SIZE, AND GENERALLY LOCATED 1500 FEET TO THE NORTHWEST OF INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD, 1 76 AND WHISPER LANE.
WE ENTERED WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, MICHAEL CHASKY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SO THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
THIS PROP, UH, ONE OF THE SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS IS THAT THIS PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN MAY OF THIS YEAR.
UH, IT INCLUDES THE ANNEXATION OF THE PROPERTY INTO THE CITY LIMITS, AND IT ALLOWS THE PROPERTY TO SEEK WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES FROM THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN.
UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF RM 2243 AND WEST OF PARKSIDE PARKWAY.
UH, AND JUST NORTH OF WHISPER LANE.
THE PROPERTY IS BOUND BY PARCELS, BOTH INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, AS WELL AS THE ETJ AND THE PROPERTY IS MOSTLY SURROUNDED BY UNDEVELOPED PARCELS WITH SOME LIMITED SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, UH, SCATTERED THROUGHOUT.
AND THE PROPERTY IS ALSO NEAR THE UNDEVELOPED EDGEWOOD SUBDIVISION, WHICH INCLUDES A SFC S F S
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AND SFU ZONING DISTRICTS.THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF LEANDER.
AND THE ANNEXATION REQUEST IS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE ZONING REQUEST.
AS FAR AS UTILITIES, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DOES PROVIDE THE PROPERTY, THE ABILITY TO REQUEST UTILITIES FROM THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN.
UH, CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO UTILITIES AVAILABLE FROM THE CITY OF LEANDER, UH, IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
UH, THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH, UH, INDICATED THAT, UH, NO PROPERTY OWNERS WERE, UH, NOTIFIED WITHIN THE 500 FOOT.
UM, THEY INDICATED THAT THE CURRENT OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, ALSO OWNS SOME OF THE LARGER TRACKS SURROUNDING.
SO THIS IS OWNING REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CATEGORY.
AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING ZONING AND SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.
AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THERE WAS NO APPLICANT PRESENTATION.
THIS POINT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
DID ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF THEM? LET'S NOT.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER, MAN.
I HAVE NOTHING COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
I PROBABLY AM GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS.
YOU GUYS ALL KNOW? SO, UM, WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO, UH, NEXT TO LEANDER WHEN ALL THE SERVICES ARE COMING FROM GEORGETOWN? SO THEY, UM, THEY HAVE A ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.
SO WE DID A LARGE AIRY ANNEXATION.
AND AT THE TIME THEY WERE USED FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES AND THEY GOT TO DELAY ANNEXATION.
SO NOW THAT THEY'RE REDEVELOPING, IT'S GOING TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.
SO WHY DON'T WE HAVE SERVICES AVAILABLE AT THEIR WAIST AND FRESHWATER AVAILABLE FOR THEM? I MEAN, WHY ARE THEY CONNECTING TO THEM? THEY THEY'RE REQUESTING TO, SO THEY HAVE A BIGGER DEVELOPMENT THAT I THINK THE ENTRANCE HAS COME IN THROUGH GEORGETOWN, IT HEADS OVER TO THE EAST.
SO THIS IS GOING TO BE AN EXTENSION OF THEIR PROJECT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S THE CITY OF LANDERS CCN, WHICH IS OUR WATER SERVICE AREA.
SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WE'RE ALLOWING GEORGETOWN TO REQUEST THAT IT'S PLACED IN THEIR CCN SO THEY CAN SERVE IT.
CAUSE IT'D BE A CONTINUOUS DEVELOPMENT FOR THEM.
ARE THERE ANY FINANCIAL RAMIFICATIONS TO LEANDER BECAUSE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, ALONG OKAY.
COMMISSIONER STYLES, NO QUESTIONS.
THE ONLY THING I HAVE IS I WAS REALLY, REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT, WE DID NOT NOTIFY ANYONE IN THE 500 FEET.
DOES DID THAT MEAN THAT THERE'S JUST THE ONE OWNER WITHIN THAT 500? IF JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I'M NOT TRYING TO THANK YOU FOR THIS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, UH, ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
THE, THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS WE HAVE REACHED OUT A NUMBER OF THE LAND OWNERS ARE ADJACENT TO, UH, WHAT ROBIN MENTIONED, ANOTHER SUBDIVISION WE'VE ALREADY GOT UNDERWAY WITH THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN.
THEY'RE AWARE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS BASICALLY IT'S EXTENDING THE SAME PLAN JUST INTO THIS 28 ACRES.
SO EVERYONE'S BEEN AWARE THAT THIS HAS BEEN COMING SINCE I WANT TO SAY 20 19, 20 18, 20 19.
WE'RE, WE'RE HOPEFULLY GOING TO BE BREAKING GROUND ON THE GEORGETOWN LOTS BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
AND SO I'VE PERSONALLY MADE CONTACT, TRYING TO MAKE CONTACT AND HAVEN'T HAD CALLS RETURNED.
UH, WE WERE INVOLVED WITH THIS PRO PROPERTY GOING BACK TO 2018.
I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING ADVERSE.
AND AS I SAID, WE'VE ALREADY GOT DEVELOPMENT OF SIMILAR LOT SIZE AND CONSISTENCY, JUST NEXT DOOR, ADJACENT TO THEM ALREADY.
SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MANN.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STYLES.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED.
PASS THE SIX TO ONE COMMISSIONER HAMPTON OPPOSING.
AND WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 14 ADJOURNMENT.