[1. Open Meeting.]
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TODAY IS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2021.AND THIS IS THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP OF THE LANDER CITY COUNCIL.
A QUORUM IS PRESENT AND THE CITY COUNCIL IS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS
[2. Roll Call.]
CITY.SECRETARY CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL ANNOUNCE MEMBER CAP FROM ITALIAN PARKER HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER ASKED ME THAT WHEN GLORIA HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER JASON SHAW COUNCIL MEMBER, NICOLE THOMPSON, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER, CHRIS CERNIK MAYOR PRO TEM, BECKY ROSS HERE, MAYOR CHRISTINE SAID REQUEST HERE.
[3. Discuss street sweeping schedule. Discuss redevelopment options for older areas of the city. Discuss projected cost of the senior center.]
OKAY.MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE, DISCUSS STREET, SWEEPING SCHEDULE PUBLIC WORKS, DIRECTOR ELLISON, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
IS THAT ON? YEAH, MIKE'S NOT HERE FOR US TODAY.
UM, SO I'M HERE TO PRESENT SOME INFORMATION ON WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO AS A STREET SWEEPING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WE, UM, ADDRESS THE ARTERIALS AND COLLECTORS ABOUT ONCE PER QUARTER.
UH, THOSE ARE STREETS LIKE REGAN HERE AWAY, CRYSTAL FALLS, UM, ALL THE MAJOR ROADWAYS.
SO WE, WE TRY TO HIT THOSE AT LEAST ONCE PER QUARTER.
AND THEN WE ALSO, UM, ADDRESS NEEDS AFTER LARGE RAIN EVENTS.
IF WE SEND THE BRIDGES, STUFF LIKE THAT, UM, WE ANNUALLY BUDGET ABOUT $5,000 FOR THE STREET SWEEPING AND I'VE INCLUDED SOME COST INFORMATION HERE FOR KIND OF PAST YEARS.
SO WE'RE IN THAT 6,000 TO 10,000 RANGE, JUST DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF HONESTLY, WHAT KIND OF WINTER WE HAVE.
UM, AND IF WE HAVE TO SAND THE BRIDGES, UM, LET'S SEE, I HAVE SOME PHOTOS HERE.
UM, THESE FIRST TWO ARE, REAGAN'S KIND OF A BEFORE AND AFTER, UH, THE STREETS WE, WHEN THE STREET SUPER GOES BY, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THIS WHITE LINE.
THEY GENERALLY GO AROUND OBVIOUSLY THINGS LIKE CARS, UM, LARGE PIECES OF DEBRIS, LIKE THIS ONE, UM, TIRES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DAMAGE THEIR EQUIPMENT BY AND, AND THEIR, THEIR EQUIPMENT CAN'T PICK IT UP.
SO IT HAS TO BE MANUALLY PICKED UP.
UM, THEY WILL ALSO NOT, THEY'LL KIND OF SHY AWAY FROM BARRIERS LIKE THIS, SO YOU CAN SEE, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A MUCH BETTER KIND OF BETTER JOB IN THE RESIDENTIAL SECTION, BUT THE, THE MAJOR ARTERIALS LIKE REAGAN, UM, WITH THIS BARRIER HERE, THEY JUST WON'T GET TOO CLOSE TO IT.
AND THEN THE NEXT, SO AFTER THAT WAS SWEPT, OUR CREWS PICKED UP, UM, BY HAND THIS DEBRIS FROM WRITING ON COLLEGE, DE-BRIEF TRASH FROM REAGAN.
UM, AND THEY HAD TO MANUALLY OF COURSE GO OUT AND PICK IT UP AND IT REQUIRES TWO CREWS, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THE SPEEDS OBVIOUSLY AND TRAFFIC CONTROL AND SAFETY AND EVERYTHING.
SO, UH, WE ALSO HAVE TO ADDRESS AREAS LIKE THESE LITTLE DIAMONDS OR TRIANGLES.
SO THIS IS A BEFORE AND AFTER, UH, AGAIN, MANUAL, UH, WITH SHOVELS BUCKETS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
AND THEN I ALSO HAVE SOME FREE INFORMATION ON THE COST FOR EXPANSION OF STREET SWEEPING IF WE INCREASE THE FREQUENCY TO MONTHLY OR BI-MONTHLY, DEPENDING ON THE ROADWAY, UM, REGAN ITSELF IS ABOUT $1,100 TO SWEEP.
SO, UM, ONE ROUND OF STREET SWEEPING IS ABOUT 1100 BY THE CONTRACTOR.
SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS.
SO WE GET EMAILS PERIODICALLY FROM, UH, ONE OF THE BIKERS ON REAGAN, BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE BIKING CORRIDOR.
AND, UM, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T GET A LOT OF EMAILS, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH HIM THAT IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S NOT SWEPT ENOUGH WHERE IT'S, IT'S ALMOST A SAFETY HAZARD.
AND SO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, KEEPING UP WITH THAT CORRIDOR BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH BIKE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING THROUGH WHERE ALL THAT DEBRIS IS AND ALL THE SAND.
IF RICK WANTS TO CHIME IN, YES, ONE OF THE ISSUES IS, IS ONE OUR CONSTRUCTION LEVEL RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN WITH THE, UH, QUARRIES AND GRAVEL PITS AND EVERYTHING THAT ARE TO OUR EAST, UH, THEY'RE TRAVERSING EVEN MORE EAST AND WEST.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING THROUGH ON THAT.
SO INCLUDED IN THE, UH, AND THE BUDGET IS WITHIN PD DEITY UNIT.
NOW I'VE BEEN IN HECK ONE CITY WHERE A LOT OF TRAFFIC, IT DID HAVE A HAZMAT, UM, FACILITY THROUGH IT AND EVACUATION ROUTE.
UH, THE OTHER ONES, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET TO 50,000, USUALLY YOU WILL HAVE, UH, A DLT UNIT.
SO WE'VE GOT THAT IN THERE TO STAND THAT UP.
NOW IT'S NOT GOING TO FIX EVERYTHING, BUT TRUCKS THAT ARE DEFINITELY NOT SAFE, OVERLOADED THE BRAKES OR THE BRAKES DON'T WORK.
THERE'S A LONG LIST OF THINGS THAT WILL HELP ON SOME OF THAT ENFORCEMENT.
AND IF THERE IS A DEITY UNIT SAY WORKING THAT CORRIDOR, IT'S AMAZING.
UNLESS THEY'RE COMING AS A DESTINATION, YOU
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WILL START SEEING SOME OF THOSE TRUCKS AVOID THE CORRIDOR.SO YEAH, BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE IT SWEPT.
AND HONESTLY, WITHIN A COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC TO IT, IT LOOKS LIKE NOTHING WAS DONE SOMETIMES.
AND, AND THE LARGE PIECES THAT REQUIRE TWO OF OUR THREE CREWS ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HARD TO, HARD TO ALLOCATE THAT MUCH CREW TIME TO GO PICK UP.
AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S A SAFETY HAZARD TOO, BUT, UM, WE JUST CAN'T DO IT AS FREQUENTLY AS WE'D LIKE TO.
WELL, ONE THING IS IF YOU GET THE DOD UNITS OUT THERE, SO I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT CORRIDOR ALSO COMPLAINED ABOUT CRACKED WINDSHIELDS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S PART AND PARCEL LEVEL THAT GRAVEL.
SO IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT LOAD COVERED, OR IF IT'S YOU SEE, SOMETIMES THEY'LL TRY TO COVER IT.
SOMETIMES IT'S NOT FULLY COVERED.
SO THOSE ARE ALL THE LITTLE THINGS THAT THEY COULD GET INVOLVED WITH TOO.
UH, I THINK, UH, GREG, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR GREG SHOP, BUT THEY'D BEEN LOOKING AT THIS OFF AND ON OVER THE YEARS.
AND BY THE TIME YOU GET IT STOOD UP, YOU'LL BE VERY CLOSE TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE.
SO, UM, OVER TIME AS THE CORRIDORS BUILT OUT AND WE'RE REALLY NOT THE DESTINATION THAT WILL ALSO KEEP THE CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC TO A MINIMUM.
AND I THINK AT THAT POINT, YES, THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO PAY GREAT DIVIDENDS.
WE COULD ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD GET, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD SOLICIT BIDS FOR MORE FREQUENTLY AND SEE IF THE COST PER SWEEPING WOULD GO DOWN.
SO NORTH OF 29 IS WHERE WILLIAMSON COUNTY DOES THE SWEEPING AND THEY DO IT, I BELIEVE WITH MORE FREQUENCY THAN US.
HAVE WE ENGAGED THEM ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY'D BE WILLING TO CONTRACT WITH US TO DO OURS AT THE SAME TIME? I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO IT.
WE CAN SPLIT COSTS IF THAT WOULD HELP.
JUST BUDGETING FOR IT AND GETTING THE FREQUENCY INCREASE.
WE LOOKED AT IT EVEN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THAT'S WHERE THESE COSTS CAME FROM AND I DOUBLE CHECK THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE STILL CURRENT.
UM, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO INCLUDE MORE BECAUSE HONESTLY WE'D LIKE TO HIT EVERY STREET IN THE CITY ONCE A YEAR.
AT LEAST EVEN THE RESIDENTIALS.
I KNOW THEY COME DOWN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT EVERY, PROBABLY ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR.
WELL, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WAIT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN RIGHT.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, FINDING THE CONTRACT AND BEING ABLE TO WORK THAT PIECE OUT, I THINK IS A LOT EASIER THAN HAVING THE CREWS TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY PICK UP THE TRASH.
BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AS WE'RE ACCORDING, UM, BUSINESSES AND THE COMMERCIAL TO COME HERE, PRESENTABLE, IT'S PRESENTABLE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NOTICED ABOUT THIS AREA WHEN I MOVED HERE WAS HOW PRETTY IT WAS.
AND COMING FROM LOUISIANA, THE STREETS ARE NOT KEPT UP AS NEARLY AS WELL.
AND SO THAT WAS SOMETHING I NOTICED.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, I DON'T WANT TO SHORT CHANGE THAT.
UM, AND WHATEVER THAT CREATIVITY IS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND MAKE SURE OUR STREETS ARE PRESENTABLE.
AND IF WE HAVE TO DO IT MORE NOW, AND THEN MAYBE WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION LAYS OFF IN 10 YEARS OR SO, MAYBE IT BACKS DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO.
I WILL SAY THE ONLY PLACE I'VE SEEN WHERE IT'S PROBLEMATIC IS REAGAN.
THAT'S ALL THAT CONSTRUCTION SHOPPING DOWN THERE, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE, THE TRUCKLOADS OF DEBRIS TOOK THEM ABOUT, I GUESS, FOUR HOURS TO PICK THAT UP.
I MEAN, THAT WAS A WHOLE MATTRESS.
SO ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL, THANK YOU FOR YOU MUCH.
REDEVELOPMENT OPTIONS FOR OLDER AREAS OF THE CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR GRIFFIN.
OH, LOOK VERY DIFFERENT TODAY.
PLANNING DIRECTOR GRIFFIN, GOOD EVENING, ROSS.
UM, AS FAR AS OLDER AREAS OF THE CITY, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STREET CAPACITIES AND THE FACT THAT AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, WE HAVE MORE TRAFFIC ON EXISTING STREETS THAT ARE SUBSTANDARD.
DON'T MEET OUR CURRENT TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.
OUR OPTIONS FOR FUNDING THAT KIND OF WORK IS LIMITED.
RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A MECHANISM IN PLACE AT ALL.
ONE THING WE ARE LOOKING AT BASED ON THE TMP IS GOING OUT FOR ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, WHICH WILL PAY FOR EXPANSION OF ROADS.
THAT MUST BE DUDE TO INCREASE CAPACITY.
AND OTHER WAY, THOSE ARE SET UP THE CITY WILL BE DIVIDED IN DIFFERENT SERVICE AREAS, MAXIMUM LENGTH OF SIX MILES, AND THAT ANY GROWTH IN THAT AREA WILL THAT WE CHARGE IMPACT FEES FOR.
IT MUST BE USED IN THAT AREA OF THE CITY.
NOW, OTHER SECTIONS WHERE WE'VE GOT MORE TRAFFIC, IT MAY BE POSSIBLE IF WE WRITE THE ORDINANCE CORRECTLY TO APPLY THE IMPACT FEES, TO AREAS WHERE THERE'S GROWTH CAUSING PROBLEMS WITH THE EXISTING ROADS.
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WOULD BE SOME CITIES CHARGE, A STREET MAINTENANCE FEE, WHICH GOES ON THE WATER BILL.BUT THAT MEANS ALL THAT COST GETS PASSED ON TO THE EXISTING CITIZENRY AND NOT FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO PAY.
OF COURSE THEY WOULD ALL END UP PAYING SOME AMOUNT WHENEVER THEY DO, UH, GET THEIR WATER BILLS ESTABLISHED.
SO AS FAR AS IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROAD, WE HAVE THE NORMAL PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE THAT GINA HANDLES, BUT ONLY IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING TO INCREASE THE ROADWAY, WIDTH, OR EXPAND THE ABILITY TO HANDLE TRAFFIC.
IT JUST RESURFACES EXISTING ROAD.
IF WE WANT TO EXPAND THAT, WE WOULD NEED TO CREATE CIP PROJECTS, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE FUNDING SOURCE OF SOME SORT THAT WE'D HAVE TO TALK TO ROBERT AND SEE WHERE WE COULD FIND THAT IN OUR EXISTING FUNDING STREETS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR, UH, ANY UTILITY FUNDING OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE THAT BASICALLY THEIR GENERAL FUND ITEM.
SO IT COMES OUT OF THE NORMAL PROPERTY TAX SPACE.
AND THAT'S REALLY OUR ONLY OPTIONS AS FAR AS STREETS GO.
NOW I WAS LOOKING AT ONE AREA THAT I KNEW AS A MATTER OF CONCERN TODAY, AND IT D IT REALLY NEEDS EXPANSION.
DOESN'T HAVE CURB AND GUTTER, NO UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD REALLY NEED TO BE EXPANDED.
HOWEVER, IT WOULD REQUIRE A RIGHT AWAY TAKE FROM THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS, AS WELL AS WIDENING THE PAVEMENT AND THE INSTALLATION OF CURB AND GUTTER IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT COST.
AND WHETHER WE COULD HAVE THE POLITICAL WILL TO AND CONDEMN THE PROPERTY FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY WOULD BE SOMETHING THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A POPULAR DECISION, BUT PEOPLE MAY BE MAYBE WILLING TO MAKE THAT TRADE IN ORDER TO HAVE A BETTER STREET AS A RESULT, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH IT IS OR HOW CLOSE THE HOUSES IS, IT CAN EAT UP A LOT OF THE FRONT YARD.
UH, I'VE HAD PREVIOUS CITIES WHERE THEY DID A RIGHT AWAY TAKE IN THE HOUSE, ENDED UP ONLY BEING ABOUT 15 FEET OFF THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH YARD LEFT.
SO THOSE ARE THE VARIOUS OPTIONS WE COULD ALWAYS LOOK AT AND CONSIDER.
WE'VE GOT THE IMPACT FEE STUDY STARTING SOON.
WE'VE GOT A KICKOFF MEETING TOMORROW MORNING TO GET THAT ONE GOING.
AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH OUR CONSULTANT.
AND AS LONG AS WE TIED IT TO THE GROWTH OF THE CITY, WE COULD APPLY THE IMPACT FEES TOWARD THE REDOING OF THE STREETS.
SO THAT'S HOW WE COULD WORK THIS USUALLY, YOU KNOW, STREETS ON WHOLE, AS, UH, THE CITY GROWS.
WE HAVE THE DEVELOPERS PAY FOR THOSE, NOT THE TAXPAYERS, THE EXISTING ROADWAYS ARE ALWAYS AN ISSUE, AND THOSE ARE GOING TO JUST TAKE INVESTMENT FROM OTHER FUNDS TYPICALLY.
SO HOWEVER, THE COUNCIL WANTS TO APPROACH THIS AS HOW WE CAN DO IT, AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
ANY QUESTIONS YOU DON'T HAVE ON THIS ITEM? OR SO CAN WE READ IT INTO THE ORDINANCES THAT WHEN SOMEBODY IS REDEVELOPING A PIECE OF LAND, THAT RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE ROAD WIDENING AND, UH, WHATEVER UTILITIES WOULD HAVE TO BE DEDICATED, JUST THE SAME AS A NEW DEVELOPMENT? CERTAINLY.
I THINK, I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT WOULD REQUIRE REWRITING IT BECAUSE AS THEY DEVELOP IT, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR THE ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY.
UH, WE HAVE DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN NOW THAT WERE PRE-EXISTING BEFORE WE DID THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.
AND WE TELL THEM THAT WE CANNOT REQUIRE THEM TO DEDICATE THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT THE CITY WILL BE COMING FOR IT.
AND WE'D LIKE IT, IF THEY CONSIDER THAT WHEN THEY DESIGN THEIR PROJECT NOW, OKAY.
THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS ASKING TO BE WAIVED OF A FIVE FOOT, RIGHT.
IT'S LIKE, JUST TRY TO GIVE US THAT EXTRA FIVE FEET WHEN YOU DESIGN IT.
AND THAT WAY, WHEN WE COME FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY, IT WON'T IMPACT YOU, RIGHT.
JUST MOVE THE HOUSES OVER A LITTLE BIT.
IT SHOULDN'T BE TOO DIFFICULT WHEN YOU DROP THE DIFFERENT AREAS FOR THE IMPACT FEES.
ARE THE FEES THE SAME FROM AREA TO AREA? IT'S JUST, THEY, THE FUNDING CAN ONLY BE SPENT IN THAT AREA OR ARE THEY DIFFERENT FEES? IT WAS ONE OF THOSE TYPE OF GROWTH AND THE PROJECTED COST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR A PARTICULAR AREA, THE IMPACT FEES COULD VARY ON AN AREA PER AREA BASIS.
HOWEVER, WHEN IT CAME TO, WHEN IT COMES TO PASSING THE ORDINANCE AND COUNCIL WOULD DECIDE TO HOW MUCH OF THE FEE WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE AND THEY COULD, YOU COULD BALANCE IT OUT.
WE'RE ALL AREAS WE'RE PAYING THE SAME.
I SUSPECT THAT WOULD BE BRINGING IT ALL DOWN TO THE LOWEST FEE.
YOU COULDN'T CHARGE THEM MORE THAN A PARTICULAR AREAS.
IMPACT FEES WOULD NORMALLY BE, I'VE GOT ROUND ROCKS, IMPACT ROADWAY, IMPACT FEES HERE IN FRONT OF ME.
AND THEY DID A STAGED GROWTH WHEN IT STARTS OFF, THEY HAD CALCULATED WHAT THEIR FEES ARE IN THE FIRST YEAR.
AND THEN AS TIME GOES ON, THEY'LL GO UP TO 60% OR 75% OF THE MAXIMUM INCOME IMPACT FEE FOR THAT AREA.
SO IT'S MORE THAN ONE WAY TO APPROACH THAT, UH, IMPACT FEES WILL NOT PROVIDE THE MONEY TO REBUILD ANYTHING VERY QUICKLY.
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WE PASS THE ORDINANCE WHERE WE CAN START COLLECTING FEES.AND THEN, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S LIKE $3,000 A HOUSE, IT TAKES AN AWFUL LOT OF HOUSES LIKE THAT TO REBUILD A ROADWAY, RIGHT.
AND SO WE TALKED TO ROBERT ABOUT A BOND ISSUE OF SOME SORT TO PAY FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN WE COULD USE THE IMPACT FEES AS FAR AS MY UNDERSTANDING IS A KIND OF A GUARANTEE ON HOW WE'RE REPAYING THE BOND, BECAUSE AT LEAST WE WOULD PROVIDE THE INCOME TO GO WITH IT.
SO COUNCIL, THE WAY THIS CAME UP, UM, WAS BACK IN MAY, WE HAD, UM, A ZONING FOR A PLOT OF LAND THAT IS BETWEEN WHERE THE LOWE'S IS AND BAGHDAD ROAD, THERE'S THAT OLDER AREA THERE THAT HAS A LOT OF LIKE MOBILE HOMES AND SUCH.
AND SO THAT IS NOW BECOMING A GOOD MARKET FOR REDEVELOPMENT, BUT THE ROADS THERE ARE NOT ADEQUATE.
AND SINCE IT'S NOT ON THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, THERE HASN'T BEEN REALLY A ROADMAP, SO TO SPEAK FOR HOW TO DO THIS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SORT OF VISUALIZE WHILE WE DO THIS.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? CONCERNS, COMMENTS.
DISCUSS PROJECTED COST OF THE SENIOR CENTER PARKS DIRECTOR TIMMINS.
HI MAYOR COUNCIL AT THE RETREAT.
AND OF COURSE OUR CIP REVIEW A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT YOU REQUESTED.
ONE BEING A COST ESTIMATE OF THE FACILITY BASED ON TODAY'S CONSTRUCTION ENVIRONMENT AND MATERIALS COST.
THE SECOND BEING O AND M UH, COST FOR THE FACILITY.
AND THIS PAST TUESDAY ON ONE OF OUR COUNCIL CALLS, THE REQUEST WAS MADE.
IF WE COULD PROVIDE A COMPARISON CHART OF OTHER SENIOR CENTER BASED ON SIZE COST POPULATION, ET CETERA, TO DETERMINE IF OUR FACILITY WOULD BE ADEQUATE ONCE COMPLETED.
AND SO WE HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION THAT WE'LL TAKE THEM IN ORDER AND THEN DISCUSS, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THE NEXT ONE AND GO DOWN THROUGH THERE.
SO AT THIS TIME YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE ESTIMATE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US BY A GUAR PROJECT RESOURCES THROUGH PJL.
AND, UM, I KNOW YOU'VE HAD MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME THAN I HAVE TO DIVE INTO A LOT OF IT, BUT I HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH PJL, UH, AND LOOKING AT THIS, I WANT TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO AT THE VERY BOTTOM, YOU'LL SEE, PAGE FOUR OF 19, IT'S ACTUALLY LIKE PAGE SIX, CAUSE IT GOT THE COVER PAGES, PAGE FOUR OF 19 HOPE EVERYBODY'S THERE.
UM, IT DOES SHOW THAT A REASONABLE COST BASED ON BIDDING THE PROJECT WITHIN THE FAIRLY SOON TIMEFRAME, WE COULD SEE BIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 5.8, EIGHT OH MILLION DOLLARS.
UM, THIS IS AN UPDATE BASED ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW, WAITING SIX MONTHS OR LONGER, ACCORDING TO MY CONVERSATION THAT PRICE COULD ADJUST EITHER UP OR DOWN, BUT PROBABLY NOT SIGNIFICANTLY.
UM, THERE IS NO CERTAINTY WHICH DIRECTION AM I GO AT ANY TIME? OF COURSE, IN MY REVIEW OF PJL MAGUIRE ALSO, DOESN'T LIKE TO BE THE LOW ESTIMATE, OBVIOUSLY, NOR DO THEY LIKE TO BE THE HIGH ESTIMATE AS WELL.
THEY LIKE TO TRY TO BE IN THE MIDDLE AND NOTHING WAS MORE EVIDENT OF THAT.
THEN TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE RECEIVED THEIR COST ESTIMATE AGAIN FOR WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AND WENT OUT TO BIDS AT THAT TIME, UH, THEY HAD A COST ESTIMATE OF $5.4 MILLION.
AND OF COURSE OUR BEST BID CAME IN AT $5.2 MILLION.
UM, SO YOU CAN SORT OF SEE YOU, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GUARANTEE, OH, IT'S 5.8, WILL IT COME IN AT 5.6 OR 5.5 OR EVEN 5.4? WE JUST DON'T KNOW THAT INFORMATION TILL YOU ACTUALLY GO OUT WITH BIDS, BUT WE DO HAVE A REASONABLE COST ESTIMATE FROM THEM, A VERY QUALIFIED FIRM WHO, UH, WHO PUTS THAT TOGETHER FOR MANY, MANY CITIES AND COMMUNITIES AND ORGANIZATIONS.
SO, UM, WE FEEL PRETTY, PRETTY CONFIDENT IN THEIR, THEIR, THEIR FIGURES OBVIOUSLY.
UM, IN THE LAST DAY OR TWO, I REACHED OUT TO MARCO CRUZ.
WHO'S THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF OPPORTUNITIES, WILLIAMSON BURNETT COUNTY.
I SHARED WITH HIM BECAUSE HE HAS A VESTED INTEREST, OBVIOUSLY WITH HEADSTART, UH, AND THE MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM IN THE, IN THE KITCHEN, PREPARING THOSE MEALS FOR HEADSTART CHILDREN AND ALSO FOR, UM, OUR MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM AND CONGRUENT MEALS.
IT'S A COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES, UH, IN TRYING TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD.
AND WE LOOKED AT HOW TO POSSIBLY COME UP WITH SOME FUNDING.
UH, SO HE, UH, GENEROUSLY OFFERED,
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UH, TO CONTACT FOLKS LIKE THE ST DAVID'S FOUNDATION.HE MENTIONED THAT THEY SEND OUT TWO OR THREE TIMES A YEAR LOOKING FOR PROJECTS BASED ON INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT 10 OR 20,000.
WE WERE TALKING 10 TIMES AT A MUCH, WE COULD BE LOOKING AT 200,000 OR $300,000.
SO, UH, WHAT I'M SHARING WITH YOU IS I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE ANY STONE UNTURNED IF THERE'S FUNDING AVAILABLE OUT THERE.
I WANT TO TRY TO CAPTURE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO HELP OFFSET ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT MAY BE BORN BY THE CITY AT ANY TIME.
SO IN THERE, THERE COULD BE OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD CHECK INTO AS WELL.
AND I'M LOOKING AT POTENTIAL NAMING RIGHTS, WHETHER THAT BE A HEALTHCARE ORGANIZATION, SUCH AS CHRISTUS HEALTH OR ASCENSION OR SOMEONE LIKE THAT, THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY, UM, PARTNER, AND THEY MAY WANT THEIR NAME ON THAT FACILITY AS WELL, BUT THEY'RE ALSO GIVING AN ANNUAL OR EVEN CONTRIBUTING TO THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
SO THOSE ARE ALL STEPS YET TO, TO BE COMPLETED AND BOTH STONES TO BE TURNED OVER AND TO BE INVESTIGATED.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THIS POINT.
UM, SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, I'LL BE GLAD TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT AND HOPEFULLY I CAN ANSWER THEM BASED ON THE ESTIMATE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE COMPARISON CHART TOGETHER.
THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE IF WE'RE IN LINE WITH WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING AROUND US, WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING THEIR SENIORS, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
UM, ARE YOU ABLE TO ANTICIPATE IF OUR CENTER IS GOING TO BE BIG ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN US OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS BASED ON ESTIMATIONS FOR POPULATION GROWTH BY TICKETS? THAT'S, THAT'S A TOUGH, THAT'S A TOUGH CALL BASED ON WHAT THE OTHER CENTERS ARE, THE BOCCA CENTER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY ALREADY SAID THAT THEY'RE TOO SMALL, BUT THEY WERE, THEY WERE BUILT, I THINK IN 2005.
UH, UH, AND WE'LL, WE'LL DIVE INTO THAT, THAT PORTION OF, OF, OF THE, UM, UH, PROJECT, BUT THERE WAS THERE'S OTHER AREAS LIKE COLEEN, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THEY'RE NOT QUITE DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THE POPULATION.
OF COURSE THEY HAVE THE, UH, FORT HOOD, THE MILITARY BASE THERE TOO, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE SENIOR CENTERS IN PROGRESS.
THEIR CONSTRUCTION COSTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $5 MILLION.
SO I THINK WE'RE PRETTY, PRETTY CLOSE.
UM, UH, AGAIN, OUR FACILITY IS NOT A TAJ MAHAL, BUT IT'S NOT A METAL BOX EITHER.
RIGHT? UH, WE HAVE CODES AND WE HAVE BUILDING CODES THAT WE HAVE TO MATCH AND LIVE UP TO, BUT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE WE'RE IN BETWEEN.
SO WE WANT SOMETHING VERY NICE AND COMFORTABLE, BUT YET WE, WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GETTING ELEVATORS IN THE, AND THE CURB OR MAYBE CURED, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE OTHER TYPE OF COFFEE MAKERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, BUT THAT'S, AND THIS IS JUST, UH, A PORTION COUNCILMAN THAT WE'VE REACHED OUT TO QUITE A FEW MORE AND WE'RE WAITING ON DATA TO COME IN.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME MORE INFORMATION, UH, OVER THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO THAT WE CAN UPDATE AND SEND THAT OUT TO YOU.
IS HEADSTART STILL APART OF THE SENIOR CENTER? I THOUGHT THEY HAD DECIDED TO RELOCATE TO THE SCHOOL.
THEY HAVE THE HEADSTART ACTUAL, THEIR PHYSICAL KIDS ON CAMPUS ARE BEING MOVED TO NEW, FAIRLY NEW PORTABLES OVER ON CAMACHO ELEMENTARY.
UH, IN MY DISCUSSION WITH MR. CRUZ, THEY'RE LIKE DISSIPATING MOVING THERE IN JANUARY AND VACATING THE BAGHDAD ROAD SITE.
UM, SO THO THOSE PORTABLES OUT ON BAGHDAD ROAD ARE 30 PLUS YEARS OLD.
AND THESE, I THINK HE SAID ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT 10 OR 12 YEARS OLD.
AND SO THEY'RE MUCH NEWER AND MORE MODERN AND THEY'VE OF COURSE COME IN THERE AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO BY AND SEE THEM.
I'VE WATCHED THE PRO PROGRESS PRETTY MUCH THE LAST YEAR.
UH, THEY'RE VERY NICE, ALL NEW AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEMS HEATING AND COOLING EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND SO, UH, THEIR WEDDING, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE WAITING ON IS THE PLAYGROUND, HONESTLY, TO HELP MEET THEIR STANDARDS WITH THEIR CRITERIA.
SO PLAYGROUND IS ONE OF THE DELAYS IN THE SORT OF A CENTER COURTYARD.
SO, SO SEEKING FUNDING FROM THEM, WOULD THAT JUST BE FOR THE KITCHEN THEN, OR? WELL, THAT'S A, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
UH, IT COULD BE JUST KITCHEN AREA ONLY, BUT IF WE CAN MATCH THOSE DOLLARS, NOT ONLY JUST INTERIOR KITCHEN, KITCHEN EQUIPMENT, BUT EVEN CON KITCHEN CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S A LARGE PART OF THE FACILITY.
SO THAT COULD BE SOME SIGNIFICANT OFFSET.
I WANT TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION ALSO TO THE NEXT SECTION THAT YOU HAVE ALSO JUST, UM, JUST SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE TO THE INITIAL AMOUNT OF THE BOND THAT WAS APPROVED WAS HOW MUCH, NOT LITTLE LESS THAN 4.2 MILLION.
AND WE HAVE 3.68, FIVE AT THIS POINT, CONFIRMING THE CONSTRUCTION COST TO BE ON AVERAGE, NOT A HIGHER, LOW, BUT WHERE IT CAME IN ON RIGHT NOW IS 5 MILLION, 880,000.
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MR. TOMINS WHERE YOU REMIND US AND YOU, I THINK YOU JUST SAID IT, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE 12,000, JUST THREE OR FOUR FEET, LESS THAN 12,000 SQUARE FEET.AND IS THE 5.8 AFTER DOING THE VALUE ENGINEERING? GREAT QUESTION.
I MEANT TO MENTION THAT THAT IS NOT DURING THE VALUE ENGINEERING.
SO ONCE WE WOULD GET THE BIDS IN, THEN WE WOULD WORK WITH OUR DESIGN TEAM AND THE CONTRACTOR TO COMPLETE THE VALUE ENGINEERING.
SO YOU DO BIDS FIRST AND THEN THE WINNING BID.
DOES THE VALUE ENGINEERING THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THAT SHOULD BRING THE COST DOWN.
AND WE SHAVED EVEN BACK LAST, APRIL, MARCH AND APRIL WITH THE FIRST CONTRACTOR THAT WE HAD HAD SELECTED, BUT NOT ENGAGE IN A CONTRACT WITH.
HE WAS VERY GRACIOUS TO WORK WITH US TO GET US TO THAT POINT, BECAUSE WE KNEW WE COULDN'T BRING A CONTRACT FOR, YOU KNOW, 5.2 MILLION TO THE COUNCIL AT THAT POINT.
UM, WE BEGAN, WE, WE SHAVED, I THINK ABOUT $270,000 OFF OF THAT BID.
SO WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SHAVE ROUGHLY 270 TO $300,000 OFF OF MAYBE THIS ONE? I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE SO.
SO LET'S SAY CONSERVATIVELY IT'S 5.5 MILLION.
I THINK THAT'D BE FAIR TO SAY VERSUS SO YEAH, OR YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE IN THAT BALLPARK, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOOD.
SO EVEN WITH VALUE ENGINEERING, WHERE 1.1 0.3 MILLION 1.2 MILLION? NO.
AT 1.9, AM I NOT CORRECT? 3, 5, 5 MINUS 1, 3, 6, 7, MAYBE MY MATH'S OFF, SO, OKAY.
I'LL GO WITH YOUR FIGURE THOUGH.
AS MUCH AS MUCH BETTER I WAS GOING OFF OF 4.2.
WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT KIND OF DOLLAR WE'VE WE'VE EXPENDED OVER 400,000 ON IT, THE DESIGN ENGINEERING STILL LEFT TO BUILD IT.
SO, YEAH, I WASN'T ADDING THAT IN EITHER.
AND THEN WE CAN APPLY TREE MITIGATION FEES TO THIS, RIGHT.
THE FEES THAT WE GET FOR TREE MITIGATION, DOESN'T THAT GO INTO PLACE? YES.
WE HAD SET ASIDE CONSERVATIVELY AROUND 125,000 OF OUR TREE MITIGATION FOR THE FOUR ONSITE PLANNING, BUSHES, SHRUBS, IRRIGATION, AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
SO, AND THAT'S PART OF THIS, THAT'S PART OF THAT IN THERE IS A COST ATTRIBUTED TO THAT IN THIS ESTIMATE, BUT THE TREE MITIGATION THAT OBVIOUSLY IS NOT IN THERE.
SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER 125 TO 150 THAT WOULD COME OFF OF THAT.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE GRANT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO REAPPLY FOR IN THE SPRING.
UH, UH, THE CDBG COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, UM, WE CERTAINLY CAN APPLY AND WOULD LIKE TO APPLY FOR THAT.
UM, I THINK, UH, WE WOULD BE IN A GOOD POSITION TO AT LEAST RECEIVE FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION.
AND HOW MUCH WAS THAT? PREVIOUSLY? 150,000.
UM, THE NEXT AREA I WANTED TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO WAS THE O AND M COSTS YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT WHAT THOSE ANTICIPATED COSTS WERE LIKE.
YOU HAVE THAT ALSO IN FRONT OF YOU.
I'M GOING TO ASK, UH, KELSEY HAYDN, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR TO COME UP AND SHE DID THE YEOMAN'S WORK ON ALL OF THIS.
AND, UH, IF I HAVEN'T SAID IN THE LAST 24 HOURS, KELSEY IS FANTASTIC OPO.
I'LL GET TO KNOW HER, UM, INCREDIBLE WITH DATA AND NUMBERS.
AND, UM, THIS, THIS IS RIGHT UP HER, HER ALLEY.
SO I'M EXCITED FOR HER TO COME UP AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT WITH YOU ON THAT.
UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, HOPEFULLY I DON'T LET YOU DOWN AFTER THAT.
UM, BUT WE DO HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THE DOCUMENT OF THE BUDGET THAT'S OKAY.
UM, I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE SECOND PAGE, WHICH IS THE NUMBERS.
UM, I HAVE BROKEN IT DOWN INTO COLOR CODING.
SO, UM, WE DO HAVE PROPOSED AND WHAT IS NEEDED IN ORANGE AGAIN ON THE SECOND PAGE.
UM, WHAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS IN YELLOW, BECAUSE WE DO CURRENTLY DO SENIOR ACTIVITIES, SENIOR ACTIVITIES, AS WELL AS HAVE A STAFF MEMBER WHO'S FOR THAT.
UM, AND THEN THE DELTA, WHICH IS IN GREEN.
SO IN GRAY ON THE SPREADSHEET IS OUR PERSONNEL EXPENSES.
AND THOSE INCLUDE THREE FULL-TIME AND ONE PART-TIME POSITION.
SO THE SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTER SUPERVISOR, UH, PROGRAM COORDINATOR, CUSTOMER SERVICE SPECIALIST, AND A PART-TIME RECREATION AID, THOSE TITLES MIGHT CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, BUT, UM, IN ADDITION TO PAID EMPLOYEES, WE DO PLAN ON USING VOLUNTEERS TO HELP MANAGE THE CUSTOMER SERVICE ASPECT OF THE, THEIR PROJECTED PERSONNEL EXPENSES ARE JUST OVER $191,000.
BUT AGAIN, WE DO ALREADY HAVE 70,000 OF THAT CURRENTLY FUNDED WITH A POSITION THAT IS ACTIVE IN THE, IN THE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW, THE REMAINING DELTA'S AT HUNDRED AND 21,000.
THAT INCLUDES ALL BENEFITS FOR EMPLOYEES.
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IT'S NOT JUST A SALARY.UM, THE OPERATING IS IN BLUE ON YOUR SPREADSHEET AND THE OPERATING EXPENSES WERE CALCULATED BASED ON SIMILAR FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY.
SO THE LIBRARY AND THE GOLF COURSE WE USED, UM, IN ADDITION, WE LOOKED AT OTHER MUNICIPALLY RUN SENIOR CENTERS IN THE AREA.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, BASED ON A 12,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY, UM, SO THE PROJECTED OPERATING EXPENSES ARE JUST OVER 95,000.
AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE 22,000 AND OUR SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTERS FUND LEAVING THE DELTA AT 73,000.
AND THEN IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE ARE ESTIMATED EXPENSES ON A FULL CALENDAR YEAR OF OPERATION.
SO WE MIGHT NOT OPEN AN OCTOBER WHEN THE FISCAL YEAR STARTS.
SO THE FIRST YEAR OF OPERATIONS COULD BE FUNDED AT A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT NUMBER.
UM, AND THEN REVENUE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY REVENUE ON THIS SHEET, BUT THERE WOULD BE ANTICIPATED REVENUE FROM MEMBERSHIP SALES OR ACTIVITY FEES.
THOSE ARE YET TO BE DETERMINED.
AND OF COURSE WE WOULD HAVE A MEETING TO DISCUSS THOSE IN LENGTH.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET PROJECTIONS? THANK YOU FOR THIS.
I'LL ENTERTAIN EITHER ONE OF US.
I WANT TO TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AT THIS POINT, MR. TOMPKINS.
FOR A MEALS ON WHEELS THAT WOULD TRANSITION TO THE SENIOR CENTER HERE.
THE MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM WOULD TRANSITION TO YES.
SO THERE IS NO OPERATING EXPENSES WITH THAT.
THAT'S HANDLED THROUGH THAT ALL THROUGH OH, WBC.
AND THEIR STAFF IN THEIR STAFF WOULD BE TRANSFERRING OVER AS WELL.
SO THEY WOULD PREPARE ALL THE MEALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THEIR DIRECTOR OF FOOD SERVICES, EVERYTHING WOULD TRANSFER OVER IS NOW OPERATING.
WE JUST WE'RE IN PLACE TO DISTRIBUTE THE MEALS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO ABOUT THIS? I WANT TO WAIT FOR THE FACILITY STUDY TO COME BACK.
LIKE WE HAD AGREED ON THAT'S NOVEMBER.
WHAT THE FACILITIES IS THAT NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER IS THAT RIGHT? NOVEMBER? WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
WELL, I WOULDN'T BE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO CONTINUE PURSUING THE FUNDING SOURCES THAT YOU'D MENTIONED AND TO SEE WHAT WE GET WITH THAT, BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT FULL NUMBER ABOUT THE SAME TIME IN THAT WAY TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION.
IT WAS ABLE TO BE SECURED BY THEM THAT AT LEAST WE KNOW WHAT IT WAS AND WE MAKE A DECISION.
WITH THAT, UH, THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP IS ADJOURNED AT 6 34.
PLEASE BE BACK IN YOUR SEATS FOR REGULAR MEETING AT SEVEN.
[4. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.]
OKAY.TODAY IS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2021.
AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL, JOE BOB ELLISON.
WE'LL BE PROVIDING OUR INVOCATION.
PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL IS GREAT TO SEE YOU GUYS.
LET'S PRAY, FATHER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT WHAT? I JUST PRAY A BLESSING OVER EACH COUNCIL, A WOMAN IN EACH COUNCIL, MAN, AND OUR MAYOR.
GOD, I PRAY FOR A SPIRIT OF ENCOURAGEMENT OVER THEM.
GOD, I PRAY LORD THAT AS YOU WRAP YOUR LOVING ARMS AROUND THEM, GOD, YOU GIVE THEM A SPIRIT OF ENCOURAGEMENT AND SHOW THEM GOD THAT YOU ARE A GOD AND GOD.
I PRAY FATHER TONIGHT JUST IN THAT ENCOURAGEMENT.
GOD, WHETHER WHATEVER HAPPENS HERE TONIGHT, FATHER, I KNOW THERE'S STRONG PERSONALITIES AND DECISIONS AND, AND WE CAN NEVER MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
BUT ONE THING I DO KNOW FOR SURE, GOD IS YOUR GOD WHO LOVES US.
YOU WANT TO TAKE CARE OF US AND YOU WANT US TO LOVE YOU, GOD.
AND I PRAY THAT WORD LOVE OVER THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS TODAY.
UH, THAT GUY, WE JUST LOVE EACH OTHER, UH, REGARDLESS OF OUR DIFFERENCES, REGARDLESS OF OUR OPINIONS AND OUR BELIEFS.
GOD, WE JUST HONOR YOU AND LOVE YOU.
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GREAT CITY[5. Roll Call.]
SECRETARY CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER KATHERINE BATTALION PARKER HERE.COUNCIL MEMBER ASKED ME MA'AM LONGORIA HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER, CHAISSON CHOCOLATE HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER, NICOLE THOMPSON, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER, CHRIS SURVEY HERE, MAYOR PRO TEM, BECKY ROSS HERE, MAYOR CHRISTINE SAID OF COURSE HERE QUORUM IS PRESENT IN THE CITY COUNCILS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS
[6. Public comments on items not listed in the agenda. Public comments on items listed in the agenda will be heard at the time each item is discussed by Council. [All comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual.] ]
ITEM NUMBER SIX, NON AGENDA ITEM, PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.I WILL CALL ON SPEAKERS PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED COMMENTS VIA THE WEBSITE WILL ONLY HAVE POSITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD.
ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL AND WILL BE MADE PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD.
I HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MY NAME IS JON KALMAN, UH, 1920 HOLLY HILL DRIVE HERE IN LEANDER.
I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT.
HOPE YOU RECEIVED IT IN REGARD TO THE BAGHDAD CENTER.
THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
WE'RE STILL, UH, WE STILL HAVE THE HEADSTART IN OUR AREA.
I THOUGHT IT HAD MOVED OVER TO THE CAMACHO ELEMENTARY, BUT IT'S THERE AT LEAST UNTIL JANUARY.
BUT WHAT I WROTE WAS OUR, UH, OUR PARKING LOT HAS FAILED.
IT IS OUR, IT IS LEANDER SENIOR CENTER, UH, THE BAGHDAD CENTER AND, UH, W BCO OR O THE NEW, THE NEW INITIALS WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO FIX THE POTHOLES, BUT THE PARKING LOT HAS FAILED.
AND I DID WRITE A LITTLE HISTORY ABOUT WHAT WE DID WHEN THE KITCHEN CAUGHT FIRE BACK IN 2007.
UH, THERE IS A TEMPLATE AND IN Y'ALL'S WISDOM, AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS BUDGET TIME AND THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
UM, YOU ALL ARE GOING TO BUILD A SENIOR CENTER ONE DAY, BUT I THINK PROBABLY FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
AND IF YOU ALL WOULD CONSIDER IN YOUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, OUR PARKING LOT SITUATION, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
UH, SHE'S UM, NOT FEELING VERY WELL AT ALL.
AND A CALL FROM Y'ALL WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, BUT HE WAS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT MR. POWERS WAS HERE DURING THE TIME OF THE FIRE AND GUIDED US AS COUNCIL THROUGH THE SITUATION, UH, AND HOW THE CITY OF LEANDER ASSISTED AND, UH, I'M SURE THAT HE WOULD HELP YOU TO, AND THE TEMPLATE WAS DONE BY THE ORIGINAL OR OUR ATTORNEY AT THE TIME, WHICH WAS BARNEY AND, UH, PAGE SHOULD HAVE THAT TEMPLATE IF YOU ALL ARE WILLING IN YOUR WISDOM.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS OF ME IN REGARD TO WE CAN'T DO THAT? HUH? WE CAN'T DO THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, JOEL
I LIVE IN 2,500 CHAMPIONS CORNER.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, AFTER WATCHING THE RETREAT, I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED BY THE TALENT THAT YOU HAVE AT OUR CITY STAFF, UM, AND WAS REALLY AMAZED BY ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING, ESPECIALLY FOR A WATER.
SO I, TO REALLY COMPLIMENT THEM FOR THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY IDENTIFIED SOMETHING THAT I THINK EVERY CITIZEN SHOULD KNOW ABOUT.
UM, THAT WATER CONSERVATION REALLY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A CHORE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SAVE A BUNCH OF MONEY WHILE DOING THAT AND GETTING THE REBATES.
THIS WENT, UH, JUST WENT TO SLEEP WELL ANYWAYS, I'LL JUST KIND OF GO OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD HERE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, IF YOU GO ONTO THE LCRA WEBSITE AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET THERE THROUGH LEANDER THE LAND OR WEBSITE, IF YOU GO TO PAY MY BILLS AND YOU CAN GET, GET ON THERE, AND THERE'S UP TO $600 OF REBATES THAT YOU CAN GET, INCLUDING FREE INSPECTIONS FOR, UH, YOUR SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, WHICH THEY ESTIMATE COULD SAVE YOU ABOUT 30% AND IN YOUR WATER BILLS AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, I THINK EVERY CITIZEN SHOULD GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT THIS STUFF AND, AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO DO IT BECAUSE AGAIN, BY, BY, UH, DOING A LITTLE BIT OF WATER CONSERVATION, YOU CAN SAVE A LOT OF MONEY.
UM, THE OTHER THING I WAS THINKING ABOUT FOR THIS COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY CONSIDER IS I KNOW THAT A CITY COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR PEOPLE IN GENERAL TO SERVE ON COMMITTEES.
AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT TO HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE SERVING ON COMMITTEES.
UM, ONE, ONE COMMITTEE THAT I THOUGHT THAT COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER ADDING IS A
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SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE AS WELL.UM, AND, AND I WOULD THINK THAT KIND OF THE CHARTER OF THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE TO LOOK AT METRICS, UH, BE ABLE TO DEVELOP A POTENTIAL SCORECARD AND THEN ACTUALLY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, UM, IMPROVEMENT, UH, TO THE CITY.
AND, AND SO KIND OF AN INTERACTION BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY FOR THAT AS WELL.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK ALL RIGHT.
[7. Recognitions/Proclamations/Visitors.]
SEVEN, RECOGNITIONS, PROCLAMATIONS AND VISITORS.WE DO NOT HAVE ANY RECOGNITIONS OR PROCLAMATIONS, BUT WE DO HAVE A VISITOR FORMER MAYOR KALMAN, UH, GOOD EVENING, UH,
[8. Chamber of Commerce update.]
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE UPDATE CHAMBER PRESIDENT BRANDT.THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH, DARREN.
UM, I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU ALL, TYPICALLY WE DO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NEW, WELCOME TO THE COUNCIL.
UM, VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE AND SHARE WITH YOU THE THINGS IN THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.
TYPICALLY WE DO AN UPDATE TWICE A YEAR, ONE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND ONE MID-YEAR TYPICALLY WE DO IT A TINY BIT EARLIER.
UH, WE PUSH FESTIVAL BACK AND WE'RE WAITING ON SOME INFORMATION TO COME IN AND HAD A FEW OTHER THINGS.
ANYWAY, A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO UPDATE FIRST OLD TOWN STREET FESTIVAL.
IT WAS HELD JUNE 5TH THIS YEAR.
UM, I DID SEND YOU AN EMAIL EARLIER.
I THINK IT'S WORTH REITERATING BECAUSE A COUPLE OF YOU WEREN'T ON COUNCIL AT THAT TIME YET.
UH, THIS LAST YEAR'S FESTIVAL, WE ESTIMATE THAT WE SAW ABOUT 25,000 PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE DAY OF THAT FESTIVAL.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DO ACTUAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REVENUE FOR THAT FESTIVAL AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR THE CITY BASED ON SPENDING TRENDS, BASED ON A VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE, WE ESTIMATE THAT FIVE, $562,000 IN REVENUE WERE BROUGHT INTO OUR ECONOMY FROM THAT FESTIVAL THAT DAY, IF YOU USE THE STATE OF TEXAS AVERAGE, IT IS $1.8 MILLION.
AND SO WE KNOW THAT SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THOSE NUMBERS, WE SAW THAT AS A RESULT OF THAT FESTIVAL THAT HAPPENED ON JUNE THE FIFTH.
AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
ALSO IN THE LINE OF VISITORS CENTER, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A BRAND NEW WEBSITE.
UM, YOU'LL SEE THE FIRST ASPECT OF THAT.
NOW, IF YOU DO VISIT LEANDER, TX, UH, DOT COM YOU'LL, YOU CAN VISIT THE DINING GUIDE AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT THAT NEW TEMPLATE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE ON OUR WEBSITE.
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF UPDATING ALL OF THE ATTRACTIONS THINGS TO DO THINGS, TO VISIT THINGS, TO SEE, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ARE GOING TO BE STARTING A VIDEO PROJECT THAT WILL HIGHLIGHT ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN LEANDER.
UM, THE VIDEO PROJECT WILL REALLY CENTERED AROUND THE PEOPLE OF LEANDER TIME.
AND AGAIN, WE HEAR THE BEST THING ABOUT LEANDRA IS THE PEOPLE AND WE AGREE.
UH, SO WE'LL BE WORKING ON VIDEOS TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IN AN EFFORT TO AGAIN, GET PEOPLE, TO EXPLORE OUR TOWN OUTSIDE OF JUST WANTING TO MOVE HERE, TO LIVE HERE.
SO, UH, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS.
UM, WE HAVE RENEWED OUR TEXAS HILL COUNTRY TRAIL, UM, MEMBERSHIP AND ARE ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING IN THAT, WHICH ESSENTIALLY BRINGS VISITORS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO LEANDER.
UM, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
THE CHAMBER MOVING ON THE CHAMBER HAS BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK AS WELL.
UH, WE HELD OUR EXPO IN MARCH AND AT THAT EXPO, WE HAD 708 PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED.
UH, IT ALSO WAS A CAREER FAIR AND JOB EXPO.
WE HAD 333 PEOPLE APPLY FOR JOBS AT THAT EXPO.
AND WE HAD 19 PEOPLE HIRED ONSITE AT THAT CAREER FAIR.
UH, WE HAD 185 LEANDER ISD STUDENTS WHO ATTENDED THAT JOB, THAT JOB IN CAREER FAIR AS WELL, UM, FOR FUTURE CAREER EXPLORATION.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THAT.
WE ARE GOING TO BE HOSTING ANOTHER JOB FAIR ON SEPTEMBER 15TH BECAUSE OF THE INCREDIBLE NEED FROM ALL OF OUR EMPLOYERS.
A LOT OF YOU ALWAYS ASK ME, WHAT'S THE MOST PRESSING ISSUE RIGHT NOW FOR BUSINESSES IN LEANDER AND IT IS FINDING TALENT.
I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THAT, BUT I'M HERE TO CONFIRM IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT IS THE BIGGEST, MOST PRESSING ISSUE FOR OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 10 PEOPLE ENROLLED IN LEADERSHIP LEANDER.
WE HAD 58 PEOPLE, WHICH IS UP FROM 42 THAT PARTICIPATED IN SMALL GROUPS WITH US AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL SEPTEMBER.
THEY END IN SEPTEMBER AND START AGAIN IN JANUARY.
UH, THEY ARE, THEY WERE FROM SMALL BUSINESS WOMEN IN BUSINESS, MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES, REAL ESTATE BUSINESS, NONPROFIT BUSINESS, LARGE BUSINESS.
UH, THOSE WERE OUR GROUPS FOR THIS YEAR.
SO REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF THAT PROGRAM.
UM, OUR BOOKS LOOK GREAT AND OUR AUDIT WENT VERY WELL THIS YEAR.
UM, COMING EVENTS, WE'VE GOT LOTS OF THINGS COMING UP.
OF COURSE, I MENTIONED THE JOB FAIR.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR GOLF TOURNAMENT OR FALL FLING IS SEPTEMBER 13TH.
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WE'VE GOT OUR 75TH ANNIVERSARY KICKOFF.SO ACTUALLY NEXT YEAR WILL BE OUR 75TH YEAR OF OPERATION AS THE CHAMBER, UH, WHICH IS PRETTY INCREDIBLE.
UH, AND, UH, IT WILL KICK OFF ON OCTOBER 23RD AT OUR GALA THIS YEAR AT THE BOB BULLOCK, WE FELT LIKE HISTORY DESERVED HISTORY.
UH, WE WILL ALSO BE DOING A CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL AND PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.
AGAIN, LOTS OF EXCITING THINGS PLANNED FOR THE CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL.
I WON'T STEAL ALL OF PARKS AND REC THUNDER FOR THAT, BUT, UH, WE ARE, UH, WE WILL AGAIN BE HOSTING THE 5K, THE PARADE TREE LIGHTING AND PARKS, UH, IS INTRODUCING A MOVIE, A CHRISTMAS MOVIE TO HAPPEN AFTER THE TREE LIGHTING, WHICH I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.
I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE BEST IDEAS EVER.
SO, UH, REALLY EXCITED FOR THEM.
I DO WANT TO TAKE JUST ANOTHER COUPLE SECONDS TO THANK ALL OF THE STAFF.
UM, WE COULD NOT DO THE OLD TOWN STREET FESTIVAL, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT THIS UPDATE IS ABOUT.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS SPRINKLED IN, BUT WE COULD NOT DO THAT EVENT WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY, UH, FROM PARKS TO PUBLIC WORKS TO, UH, ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT JUST MAKE THAT EVENT HAPPEN.
POLICE, FIRE, EMS, EVERY ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE REALLY INVOLVED IN MAKING THAT HUGE EVENT HAPPEN.
UM, AND IT IS AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY.
IT ONE ONCE AGAIN, AS BEST FESTIVAL IN OUR WHOLE ENTIRE REGION, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING FOR US.
THE OTHER LAST THING I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH IS, UH, WE DID THIS YEAR ALSO AND OBVIOUSLY, UH, BECKY ROSS KNOWS SHE SITS ON THE COUNCIL AND SHE WAS, UM, WE, UH, CREATED A NEW POSITION AND EX-OFFICIO BOARD MEMBER FROM THE COUNCIL, UH, JUST TO HELP CONTINUE.
WE'VE GOT SO MANY PROGRAMS AND THINGS THAT WE'RE OPERATING IN THAT YOU'RE DOING TO JUST REALLY HELP CREATE THAT COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH.
UM, AND IT'S BEEN, I FEEL LIKE A HUGE SUCCESS.
SO THANK YOU, BECKY, FOR AGREEING TO PARTICIPATE.
CAN WE ASK QUESTIONS? WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS OUT.
SO AS ALWAYS PHENOMENAL, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M A BIG FAN OF OUR EVENTS, THE, UH, THE OLD TOWN FEST BABY, THE EVENT.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY VOLUNTEERS ALSO TAKE PLACE IN THIS? BECAUSE WE KNOW WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THE VOLUNTEERS CAN NOT, WE HAD 182 VOLUNTEERS FOR THE OLD TOWN STREET FESTIVAL THIS YEAR.
IT'S THE MOST WE'VE EVER HAD, UH, AND WELL OBVIOUSLY NEEDED WITH THE GROWTH OF THE FESTIVAL, BUT YEAH, 182 VOLUNTEERS MAKE THAT EVENT HAPPEN.
AND SO HUGE PROPS TO ALL OF THEM BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.
UH, OUR STAFF IS FOR, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, UH, AND THREE OF THE FOUR ARE NOT FULL TIME.
SO PEOPLE IN TOWN, THEY REALLY ARE IN INSANELY INCREDIBLE.
AND SO, YEAH, IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS, WE'RE ABLE TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU WON'T, YOU WOULDN'T SEE THAT ANYWHERE ELSE TO WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE SO WILLING TO VOLUNTEER? CAUSE THEY LOVE LEANDER.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR CHRISTMAS VOLUNTEERS SOON.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE HILL COUNTRY TRAIL.
YOU GET ANY KIND OF METRICS ON THAT, ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING TO LAND.
WE WILL GET THEM AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND SO I WILL SHARE THEM IN OUR JANUARY UPDATE.
SO WE DO, THEY TRACK EVERYTHING.
WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE CLICKED ON LEANDER FROM IT.
WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE COME IN TO GET STAMPS ON THEIR PASSBOOKS.
UM, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE MAP SO SOON WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET METRICS ON THAT AS WELL.
SO THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST YEAR TO HAVE THOSE.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE IN JANUARY AND I'LL MAKE A NOTE TO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IF Y'ALL EVER HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT AND AGAIN, STAFF, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR US.
[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
AGENDA.ITEM NUMBER 10 HAS BEEN PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.
THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW CONSIDER AGENDA ITEM NINE AND NUMBERS 11 THROUGH 23 MOTION TO APPROVE.
ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[10. Approval of the library annex meeting room use policy for the City of Leander Public Library.]
UH, ITEM NUMBER 10.SHALL I BELIEVE YOU PULLED THIS? OKAY.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR, OH, YOU HAVE SUBMITTED A CARD TO SPEAK.
GO AHEAD, MS. MARY, UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
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MARY HANKS TO BECK AND I LIVE AT 1 6 0 9 LION STAMP AND I'M HAPPY I CAN BE HERE.SO ANYWAY, UM, THE 2019 POLICY MENTIONED USE OF THE ANNEX ROOMS BY LIBRARY SPONSORED PROGRAMS. EXAMPLES INCLUDE THE LIBRARY FOUNDATION, USE BOOK FAIR AND UNITED WAY VIA TAX PREPARATION, ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE CLASSES, ET CETERA.
I AM HOPEFUL THEN WHEN IT IS AGAIN, SAY FOR THE ESL STUDENTS AND THEIR TEACHERS WHO ARE FREQUENTLY RETIRED ADULTS TO MEET IN PERSON, THAT WE CAN RESUME OUR USE OF THE ANNEX ON TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY MORNINGS FROM 10 TO 12, THE STUDENTS ARE USED TO MEETING AT THIS TIME.
I AM ALSO HOPEFUL THAT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, THE LIBRARY WILL BE OPEN IN THE EVENING FROM SIX 30 TO EIGHT 30.
WE USED TO MEET ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY EVENINGS.
IT HELPS THE STUDENTS A LOT TO HAVE A CONSISTENT SCHEDULE.
I WAS CONFUSED BY THE LIBRARY ANNEX USAGE CHART.
WE MET IN PERSON IN NOVEMBER, 2019, AND UNTIL JANUARY, TILL NEAR THE END OF MARCH OF 2020 IN THE MORNING CLASSES, WE FREQUENTLY HAD 12 TO 15 ADULTS.
AND THE EVENING WE FREQUENTLY HAD 10 TO 12 ADULTS AND THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE REFLECTED IN HOW THEY DO THE ADULTS.
SO I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE CHART, NO BIGGIE, BUT JUST SAYING I WAS CONFUSED.
SO IN OUR CONSENT AGENDA, WE JUST APPROVED FEES FOR LIBRARY ROOM RENTALS.
SO IS THIS ITEM EVEN NECESSARY AT THIS POINT OR ARE THEY JUST OPEN AGAIN? ITEM 11 WAS FOR PARKED FEES FOR JUST GENERAL RENTALS THAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING.
YOU GOT TO HOLD IT, BUT WHEN I FELT READY TO RESTART TO HASH THAT ONE.
AND ACTUALLY WITH THE, THE POLICIES THAT WE GOT A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO, I'D REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, THERE MAY BE SOME CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA AND NOT, UM, CAUSE I'D LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THOSE POLICY CHANGES AS A COUNCIL AND NOT HAVING AS A CONSENT ITEM.
WHEN WE HAD RETREAT, UM, JUST OVER A WEEK AGO WE DISCUSSED, REOPENING THE ROOM RENTALS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND NOBODY DISCUSSED A REWRITE OF A POLICY.
IT JUST REOPENING THE ROOMS. UM, AND SO POLICY ENDED UP ON THE AGENDA AND THE POLICY THAT WAS WRITTEN WAS NOT SENT OUT TO COUNCIL UNTIL A FEW HOURS AGO.
UM, AND IT CONTAINS SOME THINGS THAT I THINK CONCERNED A FEW OF US.
UM, SO I AM ALL FOR OPENING THE ROOMS TODAY, BUT I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS POLICY THAT WAS NOT EVEN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO COME RIGHT ON UP.
UM, WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE LATE, LATE NOTICE OF THE, AND IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION THAT THERE, ONCE THAT WAS DISCUSSING, THERE WAS, UH, ENTERED INTO THE POTENTIAL TO REOPEN, UM, THAT THAT WOULD AFFECT POLICY.
I MEAN, THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE.
SO WE BEGAN WORKING ON A REVISION OF THE POLICY, HOWEVER, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO THROW ANYONE UNDER THE BUS.
WE JUST GOT IT BACK TODAY FROM OUR ATTORNEY.
SO THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IT AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT WE WANTED TO GET IT TO YOU AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
THIS IS REALLY, UH, YOUR DISCUSSION.
I'M JUST SHARING YOU THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON WHERE WE'RE AT.
YOU CAN DISSECT IT, BISECT THAT YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE WITH THE POLICY.
IF YOU'D LIKE, AND WE'LL WE'LL WORK WITH, THIS IS WE'RE SEEKING DIRECTION FROM YOU ON WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO.
BUT THIS WAS WHERE WE FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE, UH, AT THIS POINT, A GOOD STARTING SPOT, A
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STARTING PLACE.UM, MS. SIGNS, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS SINCE THE POLICY ITSELF WAS NOT IN THE PUBLIC AGENDA PACKET, ARE WE EVEN ABLE TO CONTEMPLATE PASSING IT? THANK YOU, COUNSEL.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LATENESS ON THAT POLICY, GETTING TO YOU, UM, THERE'S NOTHING THAT KEEPS YOU FROM ADOPTING IT TONIGHT.
IF YOU CHOOSE IT, IT'S, THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT IT'D BE IN THE PUBLIC PACKET, BUT THAT'S A POLICY DECISION FOR YOU.
IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE, IF YOU'D RATHER HAVE MORE PUBLIC REVIEW AND ABILITY TO HAVE FEEDBACK BECAUSE, UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BACK UNDER THE, THE, UM, OPEN MEETINGS ACT AS IT EXISTED BEFORE COVID, WHICH WE HAD SOME MODIFIED RULES DURING COVID COVID STILL HERE, BUT THE ORIGINAL RULES ARE BACK IN PLACE.
AND THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ALLOWS THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ITEMS BEFORE YOU TAKE ACTION.
SO THAT RIGHT OF THE PUBLIC IS BACK IN PLACE.
AND SO IF YOU WANT TO, UM, DELAY ACTION TO ALLOW MORE FEEDBACK OR MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR FEEDBACK, THEN YOU'RE ENTITLED TO DO THAT.
I THINK WHEN IT DOESN'T MAKE IT INTO THE PACKET, THERE'S A MAJOR TRANSPARENCY ISSUE, UM, AND OWE IT TO THE PUBLIC FOR THEM TO AT LEAST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT.
UM, COUNSEL, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? MY THOUGHTS ARE THAT, UM, REALLY FOR, SORRY, UM, FOR REOPENING THE RENTALS TO EVERYONE, BUT IF WE NEED MORE TIME, THAT'S FINE TO LOOK AT THE POLICY.
SO YOU JUST, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF OPINIONS ABOUT THIS ONE, BUT IF I'M HEARING EVERYBODY RIGHT, UM, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE, DON'T JUST DO PART OF IT AND NOT DO THE REST OF IT, IT'S EITHER GOTTA BE LOOKING AT IT ALTOGETHER OR, AND POSTPONE IT OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU'RE CONTEMPLATING DOING, UM, OR PASSING THE THING.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE AT.
SO THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT ITEM 11, BECAUSE WHAT WE JUST PASSED ON ITEM 11, INCLUDED LIBRARY, RENTAL FEES.
SO TO ME, I LOOK AT THAT AND I THINK THE LIBRARIES ARE OPEN FOR RENTALS.
SO DO WE EVEN HAVE A TIME SENSITIVE ISSUE HERE WITH ADOPTING THE POLICY OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT STAFF CAN COME BACK TO US LATER? AND THE ROOMS ARE JUST OPEN NOW, JUST A COMMENT ON THAT.
WE ALSO APPROVE, UH, ANNEXATION ON, ON THINGS THAT ARE SEPARATE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TOO.
SO ONE IS NOT A GUARANTEE OF THE OTHER.
I MEAN, IF, IF IT'S NOT OPEN, THEN THE FEES ARE REALLY IRRELEVANT.
SO WE'VE APPROVED FEES FOR NO REASON, BUT THEY'RE NOT RELEVANT IF WE DON'T OPEN THE MEETING ROOMS. SO I THINK THAT KIND OF GOES WITHOUT SAYING, IS THAT A REASONABLE STATEMENT, MR. THOMAS? UH, AND THEN I HAVE MORE AND, UM, BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT TOO THAT, UH, CURATIVE WILL BE IN THERE PRETTY MUCH FOR THE NEXT THREE MONTHS.
SO ANY RENTALS WOULDN'T EVEN BEGIN UNTIL JANUARY IS AN OVER ESTIMATING.
SO IN THAT WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF ROOM TO MAKE A DIS PLENTY OF TIME TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT OPENING MEETING ROOMS. SO, UM, WITH THAT BEFORE WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS, YOU, YOU EITHER SAY, YES, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT AND VOTE ON THAT AND THEN DETERMINE THE, THE GUIDELINES, UM, OR DON'T, AND THEN DON'T BOTHER WITH IT.
OR WE DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE NO ACTION.
THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE WITH ME COUNSEL.
DO WE NEED A VOTE FOR THAT? MS. CRABTREE? OKAY, THEN I'M MOTION COUNSEL TAKE NO ACTION, NO CIRCUIT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[24. Conduct a Public Hearing on granting a franchise to Texas Disposal Systems for temporary solid waste services. Discuss and consider action on the First Reading of an ordinance relating to a franchise as described above.]
OKAY.PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 24 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON GRANTING A FRANCHISE TO TEXAS DISPOSAL SYSTEMS FOR TEMPORARY SOLID WASTE SERVICES.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.
MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, UH, BACK IN AUGUST AT YOUR AUGUST 5TH COUNCIL MEETING REPRESENTATIVE FROM TEXAS PUZZLE DISPOSAL SYSTEMS REQUESTED A, A FRANCHISE TO PROVIDE TEMPORARY ROLL-OFF SERVICES WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF LEANDER.
UH, THIS REPRESENTS THE SIXTH APPLICANT FOR, UH, THAT FRANCHISE, WHICH BECAME AVAILABLE IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.
SO PER THE CITY'S CHARTER, A FRANCHISE REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WILL BE TONIGHT AND TWO READINGS OF THE ORDINANCE, IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO GRANT THAT FRANCHISE.
SO FIRST WILL BE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN, UM, YOU CAN TAKE UP ACTION ON THE FIRST READING OF THE
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TEMPORARY FRANCHISE.SO I'LL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND IS THERE A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? I'M NOT SURE ON THESE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY THAT HAS SUBMITTED CARDS TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION ON THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO A FRANCHISE DESCRIBED ABOVE COUNCIL MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER, PENTIUM PARKER, AND A SECOND FROM PRO TIM ROSS.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[25. Conduct a Public Hearing for the Mason Tract – CR 175 Voluntary Annexation Case 21-A-004 for the voluntary annexation of 111.569 acres ±, generally located to the northwest of the intersection CR 177 and CR 175, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action on the First Reading of an Ordinance voluntarily annexing land as described above.]
NUMBER 25 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE MASON TRACT COUNTY ROAD, 1 75 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION CASE 21 8 0 0 4 FOR THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF 111.569 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 1 77 AND COUNTY ROAD, 1 75, LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS, UH, PLANNING DIRECTOR GRIFFIN.UM, THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE MASON TRACT ANNEXATION.
UM, THIS, UH, IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ANNEXATION PROCESS AND APPROVING THIS ANNEXATION DOES NOT APPROVE THE ZONING.
THE ZONING REQUEST IS ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
UM, IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO APPROVE THE ZONING, WE'LL REMOVE THE SECOND READING OF ANNEXATION FROM THE NEXT MEETING I'M AVAILABLE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THANK YOU.
AND THERE'S NO APPLICANT PRESENTATION ON THIS ONE RIGHT NOW.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY WHO HAS SUBMITTED CARDS TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? OKAY.
WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION ON THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE VOLUNTARILY ANNEXING LAND AS DESCRIBED ABOVE COUNCIL.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OPPOSED PASSES SIX TO ONE.
[26. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-022 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to create the Mason Tract – CR 175 Minor Planned Unit Development (PUD) with the SFC-2-B (Single-Family Compact) and SFU-2-B (Single-Family Urban) base zoning districts on one (1 ) parcel of land approximately 111.569 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R032112; and generally located to the northwest of the intersection CR 177 and CR 175, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action on the First Reading of an Ordinance regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-022 as described above.]
DON'T REMEMBER.26 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 Z 0 2 2.
TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR.
ONE B SINGLE-FAMILY RURAL TO CREATE THE MASON TRACT COUNTY ROAD 1 75 MINOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD WITH THE SFC TO BE SINGLE FAMILY COMPACT AND SFU TO BE SINGLE FAMILY, URBAN BASED ZONING DISTRICTS ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 111.5 69 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE AS DESCRIBED ON THE POSTED AGENDA PLANNING DIRECTOR.
THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE MASON TRACT MINOR PEDS ZONING CASE.
UM, THIS REQUEST INCLUDES THE SINGLE FAMILY COMPACT AND SINGLE FAMILY, URBAN BASED ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR 50 AND 60 FOOT WIDE LOTS.
THE PUB DOES INCLUDE A MINIMUM PERCENTAGE FOR EACH LOT TYPE OF 20% OF THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY LOCATED WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CATEGORY.
SO THIS REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER VIEWED THIS REQUEST AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
DURING THE AUGUST 12TH MEETING, THE COMMISSION DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE STATE OF CR 1 77 AND NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE ROADWAYS TO SERVE THE SUBDIVISION I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE APPLICANTS ALSO HERE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING OR FOR PRESENTATION.
UH, ADDRESS IS 1320 ARROW POINT DRIVE SUITE 400 CEDAR PARK, TEXAS.
UH, I'M HERE WITH TOLL BROTHERS TONIGHT AND WE'RE GOING TO ROLL THROUGH JUST A REAL HIGH-LEVEL PRESENTATION AND SUPPORT OF OUR, UH, APPLICATION.
AND, UH, WE'LL BE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS.
UM, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHETHER YOU'RE IN HOUSTON OR GRAPEVINE OR HORSHAM OR WHEREVER YOU'RE AT.
UM, YOU WALK AROUND OUR DIVISION OFFICES AND YOU'LL SEE OUR CORE VALUES ON THE WALL, UH, ALL OVER THE PLACE.
IT'S ON OUR SCREENSAVERS AND IT'S A BIG PART OF WHO WE ARE.
THIS THING MAY START ADVANCING ON ITS OWN.
I MAY JUST HAVE TO DO IT, DO IT MANUALLY HERE.
UM, AND WE, WE CHERISH THOSE VALUES.
THEY'VE BEEN BUILT UP OVER A PERIOD OF 54 YEARS.
UM, THEY WERE, UM, PART OF THE REASON THAT WE GOT INTO THE LUXURY HOME BUILDING BUSINESS, UH, QUALITY BEFORE, UH, MOST OTHER THINGS THAT SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU'D LIKE TO
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YOU JOKE AROUND WITH SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE PUT PEOPLE BEFORE MONEY.SO, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, WE ARE ON THE FORTUNE 500 LIST OF, UM, AMERICAN'S MOST TRUSTED HOME COMPANIES.
WE'VE BEEN NUMBER ONE, UH, FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.
UM, WE'VE BUILT ABOUT A HUNDRED HOMES SINCE 2000.
SO WE REALLY UNDERSTAND THE SEGMENT AND THE NICHE MARKET THAT WE WORK IN, UH, AS A OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE BUILD, UH, WE'RE IN 24 STATES AND 50 SOME ODD MARKETS.
I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, UM, AS OF OCTOBER 31ST, IT'S 50 CITIES, BUT WE DO OCCASIONALLY PURCHASE OTHER SMALLER HOME BUILDERS THAT ARE CUSTOM BUILDERS OR WHATNOT.
AND SO I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL CAUSE SOMETIMES, UH, WE W SOMETIMES WE'LL HAVE DIFFERENT OPERATIONS IN DIFFERENT CITIES, BUT THESE ARE METROPOLITAN AREAS.
UM, WHERE, UH, AS I SAID, WE'RE FORTUNATE 500, WE'RE ALSO PUBLICLY TRADED.
AND SO WE, UH, VALUE, UH, THE MEGATREND OF THE ESG AS WE CALL IT, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL, SOCIETAL, AND GOVERNANCE AND HOW WE RUN OUR BUSINESS AND HOW WE TREAT OUR PEOPLE AND HOW WE APPROACH PROBLEMS, UH, IN LARGE, UH, YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE, WHICH IS AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND OF THAT SLIDE THERE.
UM, WHAT WE HAVE ON THIS SLIDE IS REALLY OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT GROUP.
IT'S NOT ALL OF IT, BUT THIS IS MY WORLD.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN 2020, UH, WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, 923 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE PRESERVED, UH, 40,000 SOME ODD TREES PLANTED AND PARKS BUILT, AND WE TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN THAT AS WELL.
UM, SO WHY ARE WE HERE TONIGHT? UH, WHAT WE HAVE OUR ANNEXATION THAT YOU GUYS JUST APPROVED, UM, WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY.
UM, I'LL NOT BORE YOU WITH THAT CAUSE THAT'S ALREADY BEHIND US.
AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE ZONING APPLICATION.
I'D LIKE TO SAY, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING A CHANGE TO THE MASTER PLAN.
I MEAN, THAT'S IN OUR VIEW IN OUR WORLDVIEW, THAT'S WHERE THE BIG PICTURE PLANNING HAPPENS FOR CITY CITY STAFF.
THEY WORKED TIRELESSLY ON THIS, AND SO THAT ANSWERS QUESTIONS RELATED TO WATER AND SEWER DEMAND.
AND WE WON'T MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT MASTER PLAN BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THAT PLANNING GOES TO.
UM, THE ZONING TONIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR SFC TO BE AN SFU, TO BE, UH, IT IS A MINOR PUD AMENDMENT SO THAT WE CAN BREAK OUT AND HAVE TWO DIFFERENT, UH, LOT SIZED BANDS IN THERE.
UH, AS IT SITS TODAY, THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY IN THE CITY OF LEE, ANDREWS, WATER AND WASTEWATER JURISDICTION.
CCN AREA MIGHT ADVANCE THE SLIDE HERE A LITTLE BIT AS PART OF OUR PROCESS AND HOW WE REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, WE TYPICALLY REACH OUT TO, UH, THE 200 FOOT STATUTORY BAND.
AND THEN I THINK YOU GUYS ALSO WANT A COURTESY NOTICE OF 500.
WHAT WE DO IS WE REACH OUT JUST TO EVERYONE WITHIN 500 FEET, WE SCHEDULE A TIME AND A MEETING AND WE COME AND LET THEM IN TODAY'S WORLD.
IT'S NOT AS IN-PERSON AS WE'D LIKE ANYMORE, BUT WE BASICALLY SENT OUT THESE NOTICES TO 17 DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
UH, AND THAT ZOOM MEETING WAS HELD ON JULY THE 28TH AND NINE INDIVIDUALS, UH, OR DIFFERENT PEOPLE CALLED IN.
WE, WE CAN MONITOR THAT BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWO PEOPLE ON ONE, ONE CALL IN.
AND SO WE, WHEN WE SAY NINE, WE SAID WE HAD NINE CALL ENDS.
UH, WHAT WE ALSO LEARNED FROM THAT WAS THAT THE BIG CONCERN IS, UH, COUNTY ROAD 1 77.
THAT'S SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET EAST OF OUR WEST OF US, I SHOULD SAY.
UH, WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THIS.
I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS A LOT OF ATTENTION.
UH, WE'VE TALKED WITH ADAM BOATRIGHT WITH THE COUNTY TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COUNTY'S VIEW IS.
WE'RE WORKING WITH CITY STAFF TO GET A BETTER HANDLE ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
UH, AS WE MOVED TOWARDS CONCEPT PLANNING AND WORKING THROUGH HOW WE, HOW WE CAN BE A PARTNER IN BRINGING THAT SOLUTION FORWARD.
UM, AND ANOTHER PART OF THIS, I WOULD JUST POINT OUT, WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BECAUSE WE WANNA KNOW WHERE CARS ARE COMING TO IN FRONT OF THEM, WHERE THEY'RE CUTTING AND WHERE THOSE RIGHT AND LEFT TURN LANE MOMENTS MOVEMENTS ARE HAPPENING SO THAT WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND IS THIS A ROAD THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE LOCAL PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THAT STREET, LIKE MR. TERRY, UH, JERRY THOMAS, UM, TO BASICALLY MAYBE WE TAKE THE LOW WATER CROSSING OUT, OR MAYBE THERE'S A NEED FOR A BRIDGE THERE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT OUTCOMES THAT CAN HAPPEN HERE.
WE JUST WANT TO WORK WITH STAFF TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT NEEDS TO BE, UM, WITH THAT SAID, UH, AND JUMPING FORWARD FROM HERE.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TENTATIVELY PROPOSING, UH, WITH OUR CONCEPT PLAN, THE A 330 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, UM, THERE APPROXIMATELY TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE, FIFTY FOOT, UH, HOMES, AND THEN ANOTHER 80, UH, 60 FOOT HOMES.
UM, OVERALL OPEN-SPACE IS ABOUT 27% PRODUCT AS WE HAVE IT
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SLATED IN HERE.UM, THE FIFTIES WOULD START AT NINE 1900 AND GO TO 2,800 AND THEN THE SIXTIES WOULD BE AT 26 AND GO UP.
I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, UM, PUTTING THE PRICES IN THERE AND TODAY'S MARKET IT'S, UPROARIOUSLY CRAZY.
UM, WITH COMPUTER CHIPS, SHORTAGES AND LUMBER SHORTAGE, AND THIRD SHIFTS GETTING ADDED TO LUMBER MILLS.
UM, BUT WITH THAT SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE WELL-EQUIPPED TO MANAGE IT.
I MEAN, WE SPOTLIGHT STUFF AND IT GETS UPDATED EVERY NIGHT AT MIDNIGHT.
UM, BUT WITH THAT SAID, UH, THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE BANDWIDTH THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHO WE ARE.
UM, I MEAN, THIS IS THE VIGILANTE FAMILY THAT WE, WE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT.
AND TOLL BROTHERS IS, IS IN THE BUSINESS OF BUILDING HOMES FOR A PERSON FOR THEIR LIFE.
UH, WE'RE WE'RE A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WE, WE BUILD STUDENT HOUSING, WE BUILD MID-RISE, WE BUILD APARTMENT LIVING, WE BUILD, UM, HIGH-END HOMES.
WE CAN, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THOSE PRODUCT TYPES IN OUR WHEELHOUSE.
AND THE VIGILANTES ARE A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT AS A FAMILY THAT'S REPRESENTATIVE, I MEAN, WE LIKE TO HAVE PEOPLE BUY MULTIPLE HOMES FROM US.
PEOPLE THAT HAVE BOUGHT TWO AND THREE HOMES FROM US IS NOT AT ALL UNUSUAL.
SO WE WANT THEM TO BE BUYERS FOR LIVE.
I'LL JUST GO THROUGH SOME OF THE, UH, REPRESENTATIVE, UM, PRODUCTS THAT THESE ARE BUILT, I BELIEVE IN TREVISO AND ONE OTHER COMMUNITY, BUT THIS IS LARGELY WHAT WE ALREADY BUILT IN TREVISO.
UM, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE, THE CAPRI, THE AL-DIN, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, THE, THE SMALLEST OF THE FIFTIES.
UM, I'LL JUST CONTINUE SCROLLING THROUGH HERE.
WE LIKE TO COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE.
UM, MR. UH, THOMAS, I HAD REACHED OUT TO HIM EARLIER TODAY CAUSE HE SPOKE AT THE P AND Z MEETING.
UH, HE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT 1 77.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HE WAS OVERLOADED.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S HERE, UH, BUT WE DO TRY TO REACH OUT TO THOSE FOLKS AND COMMUNICATE WITH THEM OVER COMMUNICATED IN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE DATES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON OUR CONCEPT PLAN AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE OUR AMENITIES TO LOOK LIKE SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT, UH, A ROBUST VISION OF WHAT WE THINK WORKS IN THAT LOCATION.
AND WITH THAT SAID, UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THIS APPLICATION, AND I'M HAPPY TO COME UP AFTERWARDS IF, IF THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE FOLKS IN THE CROWD.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY THAT SUBMITTED CARDS ON THIS.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? OKAY.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL NEED YOU TO FILL OUT A CARD WITH THE CITY SECRETARY.
MY NAME, MY NAME IS CHUCK GRIFFIN.
MY ADDRESS IS 16 VALLEY VIEW CIRCLE AND LEANDER, JUST, UH, WEST OF THAT, OFF OF KIND OF REEL 1 77.
MY QUESTION THAT I WOULD NOT LOCKED UP.
HAVE YOU CONSUMED CONSIDER, IS IT FOR FOUR YEARS? I'VE I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 88.
UM, FOR YEARS THERE HAS BEEN CONSIDERATION OF RELOCATION OF 7, 1 77 TO THE NORTH TO LINE UP ON THE WEST AND WITH CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY.
AND THEN ON THE EAST END WITH THE CURRENT INTERSECTION OF 1 77, 1 75 TO MAKE TRAFFIC FLOW MORE SMOOTHLY ALL THE WAY FROM LEANDER THROUGH TO GEORGETOWN.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THIS IS A PERFECT TIME TO RECONSIDER THAT RATHER THAN, UH, REDIRECTING TRAFFIC DOWN THE CURRENT 1 77 TO A DEAD END AND A BAD INTERSECTION IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GO WEST.
SO IF THAT'S EVER GOING TO HAPPEN, THIS IS THE IDEAL TIME TO DO THAT.
SO PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHED TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF THEM? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION ON THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 Z 0 2, 2 AS DESCRIBED ABOVE.
DO WE HAVE ANY STAFF THAT, UH, KNOWS ANY OF THE HISTORY ON THE IDEA OF RELOCATING? UH, 1 77, WELCOME BACK.
I WAS HOPING IT WOULD SHOW IT BETTER ON THIS MAP, BUT, UM, WE HAVE, UH, OUR TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.
SO IT KIND OF IS SUPPOSED TO LINE UP WITH CRYSTAL FALLS AND THEN IT MOVES
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UP CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION.I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT IS CLASSIFIED AS A ARTERIAL ON OUR PLAN.
I DON'T KNOW THE TIMING, BUT I KNOW IT EXISTS.
AND SO THAT COULD BE HANDLED WHEN THIS TRACK DEVELOPED.
I DON'T THINK IT'S, UH, TOUCHING THIS TRACT OR SUPER CLOSE TO THE TRACK, BUT IT WOULD CONNECT TO IT.
UM, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT IT.
IT'S FUTURE FUTURE FUTURE MASTER PLAN, BUT I MEAN, IT'S, YOU'RE TELLING HIM TO DO THAT THIS TIME COUNSEL.
SO MY ONLY COMMENTS ARE, I ACTUALLY LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WHILE 1 77 IS PRETTY A PRETTY DANGEROUS ROAD WITH A LOW WATER CROSSING.
AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT RAINS, WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE FOR 1 75 BECAUSE I ASSUME THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD COME OUT ONTO 1 75 AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT IS A REALLY DANGEROUS ROAD.
I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE TRAFFIC STUDY HAS ACCOUNTED FOR 1 75 ALSO, OR JUST 1 77.
BOTH THOSE ROADS ARE PRETTY BAD.
PLEASE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S COMING OUT.
UH, MIKE BOSWELL WITH TOLL BROTHERS IS, IS MY SLIDESHOW STILL? SORRY.
I STAYED AT A HOLIDAY INN LAST NIGHT, SO I THINK I CAN FIND IT.
SO, AND, AND OUR REACH IN OUR OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY, THE ISSUE THAT CAME UP WAS OCTOBER, 2018 SCHOOL BUS KID.
APPARENTLY THERE WAS ANOTHER INCIDENT THAT DIDN'T, I GUESS GO OVER WITH AS MUCH FANFARE.
THAT'S A BIG RED FLAG, YOU KNOW, AND AS I SAID IN THE PNZ MEETING, I'M A FATHER OF THREE WITH 3.0 UNITS ATTENDING LEWISVILLE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THAT'S HOW THEY REFER TO STUDENTS THERE.
UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THOSE CONCERNS ARE VISCERAL.
AND SO MOST OF OUR LAND PLANNING HAS LARGELY FOCUSED ON 1 75.
THAT'S WHAT OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY FOCUSED ON IN TERMS OF WHERE WE WOULD MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS, UH, LEFT-HAND TURN LANES ON 1 75.
THAT'S WHAT THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY INDICATES IS NECESSARY FOR, UH, THREE OF THESE ENTRANCES, THE ONLY CONNECTION THAT WE'RE SHOWING ON OUR CURRENT CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING.
I THINK THERE'S STILL A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH STAFF WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, ET CETERA, IS A, AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ISSUE.
SO THAT IF THERE'S A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, MINUTES COUNT AND THEY NEED TO GET BACK UP, OR THEY HAVE A BLOCKED INTERSECTION AND THEY NEED TO PULL PEOPLE OFF, WE WOULD PUT THAT CUT THROUGH THERE SO THAT THEY CAN FIND A WAY TO GET THROUGH THERE.
AND RIGHT NOW THAT'S, AS FAR AS WE'VE TAKEN THE DISCUSSION.
SO I THINK A LOT OF THAT WILL GET VETTED A LOT HEAVIER AS WE MOVE INTO AND STAFF WILL START REALLY REVIEWING THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE TIA ASSUMPTIONS WHEN WE GET INTO CONCEPT PLANNING.
SO CAN YOU CONFIRM YOUR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THE TRAFFIC, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF EMERGENCY EXIT, UH, TO GO ON 1 75, NOT TWO, IT SHOULD NOT IMPACT 1 77 EXCEPT IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS.
IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CADEN IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD GATE IT, NO, MA'AM, IT'S NOT.
JUST ONE MORE QUESTION ON 1 75, YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE TURN LANES INTO IT RIGHT NOW ON THAT ROAD.
I DON'T KNOW IF A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DRIVEN ON THAT ROAD.
THERE'S, IT'S LITERALLY ABOUT THIS WIDE AND YOU CAN EDGE OFF THE ROAD.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD A SHOULDER AND A TURN LANE.
SO WHEN YOU DO THE, I THINK MOST OF THE TURNING MOVEMENTS, PEOPLE ARE TURNING AND GOING SOUTH, WHICH IS TO THE RIGHT.
UM, SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS WE WOULD HAVE TO WIDEN OUT THAT ROAD IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT ADDITIONAL LANE.
IT'S USUALLY A 12 FOOT PLUS TWO FOOT OF SHOULDER ON BOTH SIDES.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT, I THINK THREE OF THEM IS WHAT THE TIA INITIALLY STATED, AND THAT'S WHAT WE SUBMITTED TO STAFF FOR REVIEW.
AND AGAIN, THEY'LL, THEY'LL STILL REMOVE, REVIEW IT FURTHER.
YOU'RE PREPARED TO DO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THOUGH.
IT FEELS COUNTERINTUITIVE, BUT I THINK A LOT OF TIMES ON THESE COUNTRY ROADS, THE WAY THAT WE END UP GETTING THEM WIDENED IS THROUGH DEVELOPMENT.
OTHERWISE THEY JUST STAY THE WAY THEY ARE.
SO, UM, I'M CONFIDENT IN OUR STAFF COMING UP WITH, WITH A PLAN FOR THAT.
I ASKED, UH, I ASKED STAFF FOR A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK AND I JUST DON'T KNOW IF I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT YET.
SO, UH, WHEN I WAS ON MY CALL ON TUESDAY, I JUST WANTED TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE POTENTIAL AND I THINK ROSS WASN'T HERE, BUT
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HE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS GONNA BE TASKED WITH IT.UM, WHAT WAS THE POTENTIAL, WHAT WERE THE, WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL NEEDS? BECAUSE WE WERE BRINGING UP THESE TRAFFIC ISSUES IN THAT AREA, BOTH 1 75 AND 1 77.
AND SO WE WANTED TO KNOW, I'M SORRY, YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE DAMN.
IT'S NOT LIKE, BUT I CAN'T, I CAN'T, TO YOUR DEFENSE, YOU GUYS ARE A TREMENDOUS SELLER, TREMENDOUS DEVELOPER.
I KNOW YOUR REPUTATION VERY WELL.
UM, THE QUESTION IS, CAN WE HANDLE THIS IN THAT AREA OR NOT AS A CITY? AND THERE'S A RESPONSIBLE FOR US TO DO THIS AT THIS TIME, OR IS IT NOT? THAT'S WHERE THAT'S, WHERE WE'RE COMING BACK.
SO, UM, I DROVE OUT THERE WITH GINA, UM, YESTERDAY AND LOOKED AT THE, UH, BECAUSE OF THE THING.
SO I DROVE DOWN 1 75 AND, AND, AND A COUPLE OF ISSUES.
ONE IS THE ROADS AND THOSE TWO AREAS ARE IN THE COUNTY.
SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH SAY WE HAVE IN THAT TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE, UM, THE ROAD, UM, FROM BASICALLY WHERE THAT LOW LYING AREA, JUST 1 77, 1 77 RIGHT NOW, UM, THE COUNTY TAKES OVER JUST PAST THAT, THAT BRIDGE.
SO THAT'S A COUNTY ROAD AND THEN 1 75, UM, AS A COUNTY ROAD.
UM, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN FOR A GOOD PORTION, BUT CERTAINLY IN FRONT OF THIS, UM, AND THIS, UM, THAT'S ALL RIGHT IN FRONT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO, SO, SO TAKING THAT INTO MIND, UM, THEIR COUNTY ROADS.
SO WE'D HAVE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY ASSOCIATED WITH WHATEVER, WHATEVER THEY FEEL MIGHT BE NECESSARY AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
UH, 1, 1 77, NOT ONLY IS THAT BRIDGE NARROW, IT'S A SINGLE VEHICLE.
SO WHATEVER VEHICLE IS COMING IN ONE DIRECTION HAS TO STOP FOR THE OTHER ONE TO CROSS, UM, BECAUSE OF THE, THE BUS INCIDENT, UH, IN 2018, ANYTIME THERE'S ANY WATER ON IT, WE ACTUALLY PUT GATES ON IT.
SO WE ACTUALLY KEEP PEOPLE FROM NOW GOING THROUGH THERE, UM, AND, AND SHUT THE GATES.
UM, I'M GONNA IMAGINE THAT THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS THE CAPABILITY TO GET THROUGH IT.
UM, BUT ANY RESIDENT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THERE ONCE THERE'S WATER RUNNING CAUSE WE SECURE IT.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING TO HAVE IN MIND.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE DEVELOPERS KNEW THAT OR NOT NOW AS FAR AS THE, UH, THE TRAFFIC, UH, STUDY THAT THEY PROVIDED.
UM, UH, WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT IT'S LIKE 450 PAGES.
UM, IT WAS KIND OF SUBMITTED, UM, BY ITSELF, UM, AND NOT NECESSARY AS PART OF THE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS PART OF THE PROCESS ASSOCIATED WITH SUBMITTING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PACKAGE, UH, CERTAINLY GIVE US A UPFRONT.
UM, BUT, UH, WE HADN'T, HADN'T ACTUALLY HAD TO LOOK AT IT QUITE YET, BUT HAVE LOOKED AT THE TWO ROADS AND THEY WOULD CERTAINLY NEED SOME, ESPECIALLY 1 77 WOULD NEED SOME WORK, 1 75.
IT JUST REAL, LIKE THEY READ, SHIPPED IT AND THEN THE ROAD ITSELF ISN'T IN BAD CONDITION.
IT IS NARROW AND GETS NARROWER AS IT GOES NORTH.
UM, BUT THAT CORNER IS NOT TOO BAD.
SO MR. GREENSBORO, THE 2018 INCIDENT THAT IS WHEN A SCHOOL BUS WENT DOWN THAT ROAD AND JUST FLOATED DOWN THE RIVER, CORRECT? YEAH.
SO SINCE THAT POINT, THE CITY 18 OR 19, 19, UH, CAN MAYBE, UM, TWO AND A HALF MONTHS HERE.
SO BEFORE WE WERE BLOCKING OFF, CAUSE THAT IS JUST A ONE LANE.
IT IS JUST A ONE LANE REINS A LITTLE BIT.
AND IT'S, YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH IT, SO, CORRECT.
WELL, I MEAN, IF IT'S A LITTLE BIT, OH, THAT'S, THOSE ROADS ARE DESIGNED TO TRAVEL ACROSS WITH A LITTLE BIT, BUT OVER THE ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, I THINK WE SECURE IT AND UNLESS UNTIL WE GO OUT THERE AND EVALUATE IT, AND THEN I SHARED THAT TRAFFIC ACROSS THERE, IT'S USUALLY, SORRY.
USUALLY ABOUT SIX INCHES OF WATER ONCE IT GETS.
SO AT THAT FOUR TO SIX INCHES, WE'LL, WE'LL CLOSE THE GATES.
SO, SO JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY WAS AN UNUSUAL VIDEO TO WATCH A, THE, THE BUS.
UM, SO THEN, UH, MIKE, WHO'S THE, UH, UH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR, UH, HE SAID HE INITIALLY SAW IT.
AND, UM, THE, HE WAS LIKE, IS THAT A BUS? SO ARE Y'ALL AWARE OF ANY TALKS THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS ALREADY HAD WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT ROAD? CAUSE THEY MADE MENTION THAT.
WELL, I SENT THE EMAIL OUT TO, I SIGNED AN EMAIL, UM, KIND OF WITH THE, UH, THAT PHOTO OF THE BRIDGE AND I'M SURE THEY KNEW ABOUT IT BOTH TO, UH, THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND THE TEXTILE AREA OR AREA DISTRICT ENGINEER.
AND, UM, IT IS ON THE, UM, COUNTY'S MASTER PLAN TO KIND OF FACILITATE WORKING ON THAT ROAD.
BUT REMEMBER THEY ONLY HAVE THE PORTION THAT'S KIND OF IN FRONT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AREA.
AND SO WE HAVE THE REST OF IT AND FAR AS I CAN TELL FROM A CIP OR EVEN FUTURE PROJECTS, IT WAS JUST NOT REALLY THE MASTER PLAN SHOWS THAT BEING MOVED, BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT
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A REAL HIGH PRIORITY.UM, SO WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO HAVE WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE TWO DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE ROAD YOU'VE GOT OUR AREA AND THE COUNTY AREA, LIKE WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO GET THAT FIXED? LIKE, DO WE NEED TO APPROACH THE COUNTY OR, WELL, SO I DID SEND THEM AN EMAIL AND THEY RESPONDED BACK AND SAID, IT'S UNDER PLAN.
THAT'S NOT A PRIORITY FOR THEM.
AND, UM, AND TXDOT WAS REALLY NOT IN THEIR WHEELHOUSE, BUT NO, THEY'RE KIND OF SENDING A THING SAYING, HEY, WE'RE STANDING BY TO HELP.
SO I DID SEND OUT SOMETHING TO TRY TO SEE IF THEY HAD ANY PLANS OR GRANTS OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT ALREADY BE IN THE WORKS.
UM, AND, AND AT THE MOMENT THEY DON'T.
SO, UM, IT'S A TRICKY AREA THAT'S FOR SURE.
AND THAT BRIDGE BEING NOT ONLY A LOW LYING AREA, BUT A SINGLE CAR BACK AND FORTH IN, IN ITSELF IS THE CONCERN.
SO MR. GREENSBORO, AND JUST TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WE, WE, UM, WE ANNEXED THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, I'M CURIOUS IF THIS WAS PART OF THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT WERE MADE WHEN THE CITY WAS DOING THE INVOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.
SO THEY, IT WAS NOT ANNEXED BECAUSE OF THAT UNTIL IT'S DEVELOPED AS IS THAT PART OF THOSE AGREEMENTS.
UM, SO WE ANNEX THE PROPERTY THAT DOES NOT AFFECT THE ROADS.
SO THE, THE COUNTY ROAD REMAINS A COUNTY ROAD.
SO THE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, UM, AND IF YOU CAN SEE IT REALLY WELL, BUT THIS, THIS BLUE LINE, THAT'S OUR JURISDICTION.
SO WE DID THE ANNEXATIONS, WE ANNEXED THE RIGHT-AWAY ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY.
WE'RE ANNEXING THE ROADWAY ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY.
SO, SO THEN WE WOULD TAKE OVER THAT, THAT SMALL PORTION OF THE ROAD, CORRECT.
BUT THE DEVELOPER IS SAYING THAT THEY WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT, OF WIDENING THE ROAD.
SO THE WAY OUR, OUR TRANSPORTATION MASTER MISUNDERSTANDING THE PORTION OF ROAD, THE WAY THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN WORKS IS, UM, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR DEDICATING THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEN THEY HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN PART OF THE ROAD, NOT THE WHOLE ROAD PARTICIPATE IN THE COST.
SO WE WOULD TAKE A PAYMENT FOR THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
AND THEN WHEN THE CITY HAS ENOUGH MONEY, WE COME IN AND BUILD A ROAD.
OR IF YOU DO A CIP PROJECT, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO IT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THE ORDINANCE WORKS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR.
SO IN MOST OF THOSE THINGS, AGAIN, THOSE DON'T GET BUILT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
IF THEY, IF THEY DO LIKE, I, I WORK RIGHT NEXT TO ONE OF THEM TOO, THAT EVERYBODY COMPLAINS ABOUT ALL THE TIME, BECAUSE THE LAST, THE LAST PEOPLE HAVEN'T COME IN YET.
SO WE SIT ON IT AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP IT LATER ON, BUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, COULD COULD A DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE HAVE TO LIKE, WE'RE BEING RESPONSIBLE ABOUT THIS.
COULD, COULD WE SAY YES, THE ZONING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS GREAT, GO AHEAD AND WORK IT OUT WITH STAFF WORK OUT OF THE COUNTY, BUT COULD WE, COULD WE DEAL WITH THE RAMIFICATIONS IF NOTHING GOT DONE REALLY TOO MUCH ON THE ROADS, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE SOME MINOR STUFF TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE COMMUNITY, IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP DOWN THE ROAD, DOWN THE ROAD EITHER WAY IT'S GOING TO HELP IMMEDIATELY AROUND.
I BELIEVE THEIR PROJECT IS, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, IS THAT, IS THAT SEEM RIGHT? OKAY.
THIS IS IT REALLY, THIS IS A REALLY TOUGH TIME, ESPECIALLY, UM, I THINK IN THAT AREA TOO.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE.
OH, HOW ABOUT THIS? UM, SINCE IT WILL BE A VERY, LIKE, WE CAN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT LIKE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN CITY AND HOW YOU GOT, WE'RE JUST GOING TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO WORK IT OUT AND EVERYTHING TOO.
BUT AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT TYPES OF, WHAT TYPES OF RESOURCES DO YOU HAVE? YOU HERE ARE PROBLEMS. OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE SOME CONCERNS TOO, BECAUSE THIS, THESE WOULD BE YOUR FUTURE HOMEOWNERS THAT WOULD BE EXPERIENCING THESE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK OUT FOR.
I MEAN, HELP US WITH YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, THIS IS VERY SERIOUS, NOT, THIS IS NOT FACETIOUS.
I PROMISE YOU, BUT IN YOUR YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN DOING THESE THINGS AND WORKING ON THIS STUFF AND WORKING WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, HOW DOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS GET, HOW, HOW DO, HOW DO CONVINCE US OF A WAY THAT THIS COULD, THIS COULD WORK OUT, THAT WE'D BE MAKING A GOOD RESPONSIBLE DECISION? YEAH.
SO AGAIN, LIKEWISE WILL TOLL BROTHERS.
I'M DOING THAT FOR THE RECORD, WHATEVER THIS IS AN ITERATIVE PROCESS.
AND SO STEP ONE IS, IS ANNEX OR LET'S GO BY IS A PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO ZONE IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MASTER PLAN.
SO THERE'S SOME RAMIFICATIONS THERE.
AND SO WHAT THE ZONING DOES IS IT GETS US TO THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS OKAY.
WE KNOW GENERALLY WHAT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF LOTS.
AND THAT GETS TO A LOT COUNT AND A
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REVENUE STREAM, IF YOU WILL.AND SO WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IS THE CONCEPT PLAN.
AND SO WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE SHOWN IT TO YOU TONIGHT, WE WANT TO USE THAT TO REALLY FURTHER OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY AREAS? WHAT IS OUR DETENTION REQUIREMENTS? WHAT ARE STREET ALIGNMENT? SO IT'S THIS COMPLETE UNFOLDING, BUT EACH STEP IS GOING TO BE INFORMED BY THE PREVIOUS STEP.
SO THEN, AND SO THEN YOU, YOU NOW HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU WITH A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY STAFF IS ABLE TO REVIEW BOTH HAND IN HAND.
AND SO THEN WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT DOES THE MASTER PLAN SAY ABOUT THE FUTURE ALIGNMENT, A 1 77.
AND THEN ALSO IF IT DOESN'T TOUCH OUR PROPERTY, THEN WE CAN'T DEDICATE PROPERTY TO IT, BUT WE WOULD PAY OUR FISCAL IMPACT PRO PROPORTIONATE SHARE, RIGHT? AND SO ONE YOU'LL HAVE THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT COMES THROUGH AND BEHIND THAT WILL BE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH WITH STAFF TO FIGURE, FIGURE OUT HOW EACH PARTY PARTICIPATES.
IT SOUNDS LIKE STAFF NEEDS TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ALIGNMENT NEEDS TO BE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH THE COUNTY INVOLVED.
AND TXDOT ALSO HAS QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO DISPOSAL THAT IT CAN HELP THE COUNTIES WITH.
AND WE'VE HELPED WE'VE DONE WORK WITH THAT BEFORE, WHERE IF WE NEEDED TO GET A TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR WHATNOT.
UM, I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS GOING ON WITH THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW, UH, CONCERNING A COUPLE OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN THE AREA.
AND SO WE'LL BE KEENLY AWARE OF THAT.
AND SO, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A, IT'S AN ERROR PROCESS, THE COUNTY ROAD 1 77 THING.
I MEAN, THE REASON I SHOWED THE VIGIL ON THESE SLIDE IS BECAUSE I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF IN TODAY'S WORLD.
THERE'S A LOT OF POLITICS OF THE EXTREMES.
BUT WE TRY TO CUT THROUGH THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME MUNICIPALITIES UP IN DALLAS WHERE I, I WORK A LOT WHERE THEY TRY TO CAST THE CITIZENS AGAINST THE DEVELOPER AND I'M LIKE TIME OUT BECAUSE THE CITIZENS WERE THE DEVELOPERS CLIENTS THEY'RE THERE.
UM, I'M TRYING TO SUGGEST THEY'RE ONE AND THE SAME.
SO OUR GOALS ARE ALIGNED IN THAT REGARD.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR CITIZENS' CONCERNS AREN'T TODAY, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR CITIZENS CONCERNS TOMORROW, OR OUR BUYERS CONCERNS YOUR CITIZENS CONCERNS TOMORROW.
AND SO WE WANT TO, AND THAT'S WHY WE REACH OUT VERY EARLY.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO BE VERY PROACTIVE ON THIS 1 77 ISSUE, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR COMMUNICATION, WITH THE RESIDENTS, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY SAID YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS UPFRONT.
AND WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF, WE'VE POKED THE BEAR A LITTLE BIT WITH STAFF AND TRIED TO GET THOSE DISCUSSIONS GOING BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A CONCERN IN OUR MIND.
AND SO AGAIN, IT'S AN ITERATIVE PROCESS TO WORK OUT WHAT THE, WHAT THE EXACT PROBLEM IS, WHAT THE SOLUTION IS.
AND WE WANT TO BE A PARTNER IN THAT SOLUTION.
I GUESS THE REASON THAT I'M MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT TOO, IS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT TIME IS MONEY FOR Y'ALL TOO, AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM GOES.
AND AS FAR AS EVERY, EVERY STEP THAT GOES AND YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE, COSTS YOU A BUNCH MORE MONEY TOO.
AND THOSE ARE GOING TO BE EXTREMELY BIG THINGS FOR US AS A COUNCIL AND US AS A CITY THERE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE KNOWN THERE.
UM, THE, UH, UM, AS FAR AS FAR AS THE, THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT THERE IF WE HAD, IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, NO PROBLEM GETTING YOU WATER, NO PROBLEM GETTING YOU, YOU KNOW, THE ROADS EVERYTHING'S, EVERYTHING'S GREAT.
EVERYBODY'S GOT PLENTY OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO GO THERE.
IT'S, IT'S THE RIGHT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, UM, IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING WHERE IF WE'RE COMING BACK AND LOOK AT IT IN A CONCEPT PLAN AND THERE'S ANYTHING THERE, OR LIKE, I GUESS WHAT I'M TELLING YOU TOO, IS LIKE, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR SOMETHING SIMILAR FROM STAFF THAT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO A WHOLE BUNCH RIGHT THERE TO, TO HELP THE DEVELOPMENT NOW.
AND I THINK YOU NEED TO HEAR THAT TOO.
UM, AND JUST LIKE TO HAVE AN HONEST CONVERSATION.
SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID RIGHT NOW, AND I'D RATHER, WE DON'T GET VERY MANY TIMES THAT WE CAN BECAUSE OF CORE ISSUES AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT ARE GREAT.
WE DON'T GET TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS ALTOGETHER.
I COULD TALK TO ONE OR TWO PEOPLE AND MAYBE TALK TO A MEMBER OF STAFF OR TWO, UM, GOING THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, BUT THAT'S IT.
SO I JUST THINK I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT SET OUT HERE THAT, THAT THAT'S A SITUATION THAT OUR CITY'S IN ANGEL WANTS TO ADDRESS THAT.
OH, I GUESS THE ONLY THING WAS THE BIG PICTURE HAD REACHED OUT TO ME.
AND I GOT WITH STAFF BECAUSE USUALLY TOUCH BASE WITH STAFF TO SEE WHERE IT'S AT.
AND I HAD ASKED, UH, DAN AND ROSS TO GET BACK WITH THEM TO JUST SEE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DEEP ENOUGH IN THE PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO REALLY MAKE A REALLY COMMITMENT ON WHEN IT COULD IT, BECAUSE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE EMAIL IS ABOUT 1 75, 1 77 LOWERED A CROSSING, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE DEVELOPMENT COMING IN.
WE NEEDED TO GO THROUGH ALL OF IT, BUT WE JUST FINISHED THE, THE LARGER TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.
AND NOW WE'RE ENTERING THE PROCESS, JUST KICKING OFF FOR THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES.
AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS.
WE HAVE SO MUCH IN THE QUEUE RIGHT NOW BETWEEN WATER SEWER ROADS.
WE DON'T HAVE OUR HEADS AROUND
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THE TIMING ON WHAT OUR PARTICIPATION WOULD BE.ONE THING WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS OBVIOUSLY SET THE EXPECTATION.
AND I THINK WE'VE KIND OF IN A WAY WE'RE KIND OF HAVING TO ADDRESS THIS ACROSS THE CITY.
UH, YOU'VE MENTIONED WE HAVE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THEY'RE SITTING ON A CROSS SECTION.
THEY MAY BE SITTING THERE FOR 10 YEARS AND YOU'RE WAITING FOR THE NEXT PIECE TO COME IN.
AND SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE ANTICIPATING THE NEXT PIECE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE ANTICIPATING IT PROBABLY FROM DAY ONE AND PROBABLY GOING TO LIGHT US UP.
SO JUST SO YOU, BEFORE Y'ALL ARE LIT UP, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY HAVE TO GET OUR HEADS AROUND IT IN TERMS OF TIMING.
NOW, IN TERMS OF PROCESS, I DON'T DISAGREE.
YOU FLUSH OUT MORE AND MORE OF IT, BUT AS IT GETS CLOSER TO THAT EXPECTATION DATE AND THEN LAUNCH WITH THE DEMAND YOU SAW THOSE NUMBERS, THAT'S THEIR NUMBERS.
THEY'RE SAYING BY THE TIME WE GET TO MARKET, THAT'S PROBABLY THE BALLPARK.
WE DON'T WANT TO DAMPEN EXPECTATIONS, BUT WE JUST COMPLETED THE PLAN AND OUR TENURE NEED RIGHT NOW, NOT IN O AND M IN SOME WAYS, THIS IS KIND OF AN O AND M ONE, BUT NOT IN O AND M, BUT A NEW ROADWAYS.
WE HAVE A $325 MILLION DEFICIT RIGHT NOW.
SO WE START TALKING ABOUT PARKS AND WATER, AND THEN MULTIPLY OUT TO 20 YEARS.
IT'S A BILLION, IT'S HALF A BILLION IN 10 YEARS BETWEEN ALL THOSE DIFFERENT NEEDS.
SO WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON IT, THAT'S FOR SURE, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO ALSO RAISE THE EXPECTATION THAT WE CAN GET TO IT WHEN WE HAVE PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR OTHER CRITICAL CORRIDORS THAT ARE GOING TO NEED IT JUST AS MUCH.
AND THIS ONE, I SUSPECT THAT SECTION WILL OPEN UP NEW DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY AND ROBIN CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO, YOU KNOW, HER EXPERIENCE HERE, ONCE SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT COMES THEN THE NEXT ONE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY ONCE THERE'S UTILITIES IN PROXIMITY, THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THE NEXT PARCEL.
AND THEN, AND THEN THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET THAT MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE, BUT THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER DISCUSSION WE'LL GET INTO WATER AND, AND THOSE OTHER ISSUES.
AND DAN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD SINCE I CAN'T TURN MY HEAD REAL WELL? UM, SO, UH, STAFF, UH, KEEPING ME HONEST, UPDATING ME AND A COUPLE OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER, NOT ONLY THE ROSE, BUT, UH, THE CITY MANAGER DID MENTION UTILITIES AND THE, UH, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR WASTEWATER SEPTIC OR OTHERWISE, BUT, UM, FROM A CLOSENESS STANDPOINT, UM, IT'S WASTEWATER TO HOOK TO THE CITY'S THE LENGTH OF WAYS.
AND THEN THE ONLY WATER LINE WE HAVE IN THE AREA IS GOING DOWN IN 1 77, WHICH IS A FOUR-INCH LINE.
SO, UM, A WATER LINE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE INSTALLED TO THAT LOCATION.
I'M SURE THAT'S AS THE GENTLEMAN SAID AS PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT YOU PUT IT, UM, QUITE SUCCINCTLY THAT EXPECTATIONS HAVE TO BE KIND OF SET AND, AND ROADS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA ARE VERY TRICKY.
AND THEN THE UTILITY SUPPORT IN THAT AREA IS ALSO, UM, KIND OF AT THE FAR REACHES.
SO THOSE ARE THREE AREAS THAT ARE TO EVEN GET A DEVELOPMENT GOING THAT ARE CONCERN.
SO, UM, JUST AGAIN, SETTING EXPECTATIONS, COUNSEL, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO STAFF'S COMING.
SO AGAIN, I'D RATHER HAVE A TOUGH CONVERSATION UP FRONT RATHER THAN HAVING A TOUGH CONVERSATION LATER TODAY.
HOPEFULLY YOU CAN KIND OF GET THE GENERAL SENSE AND I'LL KEEP ASKING IF, IF YOU GUYS WANT, BUT MY OTHER ONLY OTHER ONE WAS FOR ROBIN, WHICH WAS, UM, AND YOU DON'T NEED TO COME UP HERE.
UM, SO THIS IS, THIS IS JUST ZONING AND IT'S JUST ZONING, BUT IT'S PROBABLY THE RIGHT ZONING FOR WHENEVER THIS THING GETS DEVELOPED.
UM, WE STILL HAVE, I'M JUST CONFIRMING, WE STILL HAVE THE ABILITY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE UP A CONCEPT PLAN TO, RIGHT.
NOW YOUR RISK TOLERANCE IS GOING TO BE LIKE, WHEN ALL THOSE THINGS COME TOGETHER AND YOU'RE WORKING WITH STAFF IS WE CAN SAY YES TO ZONING AND REALLY HAVE A HARD TIME IF WE, IF WE GET SOME OTHER DATA COMING BACK.
AND SO, AS LONG AS THAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING, LIKE I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS WHAT THE, WHAT THE PROPERTY WILL PROBABLY BE ZONE ONE DAY, BUT I JUST, I WANT TO BE EXTREMELY CLEAR.
I WORK IN THIS INDUSTRY TOO, AND I WANT TO BE EXTREMELY CLEAR.
DO WE NEED ANYTHING ELSE FROM, FROM STAFF? DO YOU NEED THE STAFF NEED ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE DO A SECOND OR ANYTHING ELSE FROM US AS FAR AS DIRECTION AND HOW YOU'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER TO, UM, SEE IF THIS IS, UH, UH, POSSIBLE? NO.
SO IF IT COMES BACK THAT THIS IS NOT THAT WE CAN'T SUPPLY THE NEEDS,
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THEN WHAT, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? IT SITS THERE AND WAITS TILL WE CAN, ARE, Y'ALL ABLE TO DO THAT.THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF THE PRODUCT.
I THINK WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS REFERRING TO IS IF WE GET FURTHER IN THE PROCESS AND LET'S SAY THE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT THE TRIP DEMAND, WE LOOK AT THE CROSS SECTIONS, YOU ADD A BRIDGE, THEN YOU FACTOR IN WATER LINES, AND THEN YOU FACTOR IN LIFT STATIONS OR ELEVATED STORAGE TANK AT FIRE.
ALL THE ABOVE Y'ALL HAVE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THERE'S PROBABLY A POINT IN THERE, YOU'D SAY, OKAY, THIS CAN HAPPEN NOW.
OR THIS MIGHT BE MORE VIABLE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.
YOU MAY WANT TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
EVEN UNDER THE, UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES SHORT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, SEWERS RIGHT THERE AT THE PROJECT, THERE'S A 36 INCH LINE THAT GOES IN THE CREEK.
THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER LINE COMING ACROSS THE NORTH SIDE.
SO I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT SEWER WATER.
UH, PERIPHERAL DEVELOPMENT IS ALREADY WORKING ON THAT.
UM, AND SO THERE'S SOME OTHER LOOPING AND THINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO TO, TO SUSTAIN THAT PRESSURE.
UM, AS FAR AS TIMING, I THINK THE PORTION THAT'S DOWN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS TRACK, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING PHASE THREE, IT WOULD BE OUR LAST PHASE.
WE'VE PROGRAMMED IT TO GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO WORK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE FINAL DESIGN PLANS.
CAUSE AFTER THE CONCEPT WITH, AFTER ZONING COMES TO CONCEPT PLAN PRELIMINARY PLAT, AND THEN FINAL PLANS AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
SO THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER STEPS IN HERE THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE GET THERE.
AND, AND SO, YES, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO FLUSH OUT MOST OF THIS STUFF, UH, WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN AND WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M WHERE I'M AT TODAY.
SO IT'S NOT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OPPOSED PASSES FOUR TO THREE.
COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE IN RECESS.
IT'S 8 0 9 RIGHT NOW, PLEASE BE IN YOUR SEATS AT EIGHT 15.
COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION AT 8:18 PM
[27. Conduct a Public Hearing for the Parkside Peninsula Voluntary Annexation Case 21-A-005 for the voluntary annexation of 28.212 acres ±, generally located 1,500 feet to the northwest of the intersection CR 176 and Whisper Lane, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action on the First Reading of an Ordinance voluntarily annexing land as described above.]
ONTO ITEM NUMBER 27, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PARKSIDE PENINSULA VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION CASE 21 8 0 0 5 FOR THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF 28.212 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS GENERALLY LOCATED 1500 FEET TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD, 1 76 AND WHISPER LANE, LANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS PLANNING, DIRECTOR GRIFFIN.THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR AN ANNEXATION REQUEST FOR THE PARKSIDE PENINSULA PROJECT.
UM, THIS PROJECT, UH, THE PROPERTY STRADDLES, UH, THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN, THE CITY OF LEE ANDERS JURISDICTIONS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST THIS RECTANGULAR PIECE HERE, AND IT'S A REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION INTO OUR CITY LIMITS.
THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, THE ZONING CASE THAT GOES WITH IT, THE APPLICANTS HERE AND I'M I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY THAT'S SUBMITTED CARDS TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE ITEM.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS? ALL RIGHT.
WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION ITEM REGARDING THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF LAND DESCRIBED ABOVE COUNSEL, A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION AND SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OPPOSED PASSES FIVE TO TWO
[28. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-023 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to SFC-2-A (Single-Family Compact) on one (1) parcel of land approximately 28.254 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R566554; and generally located 1,500 feet to the northwest of the intersection CR 176 and Whisper Lane, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action on the Frst Reading of an Ordinance regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-023 as described above.]
ITEM 28 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 Z 0 2 3 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR.ONE B SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL TO SFC TO A SINGLE FAMILY COMPACT ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 28.25 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA PLANNING DIRECTOR GRIFFIN.
SO THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE SINGLE FAMILY COMPACT SEWING DISTRICT.
THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR LOTS THAT ARE 50 FEET, UM, AND WIDTH.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S A CONTINUATION OF THEIR PROJECT.
UM, THEY'RE ALSO WORKING WITH GEORGETOWN TO HAVE THEM SERVE THEM WITH, UH, WITH WATER.
UM, WE HAD A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA PREVIOUSLY, WHERE WE AGREED TO A DUAL CCN, SO THEY COULD HAVE THAT ABILITY TO SERVE THEM.
UM, THIS WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DURING THE AUGUST 12TH MEETING AND THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH A SIX TO ONE VOTE AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THE APPLICANTS ALSO HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THANK YOU.
DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE A PRESENTATION OR JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS? OKAY.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY WHO SUBMITTED
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A CARD TO SPEAK ON THIS.IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF THEM? OKAY.
WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION ITEM REGARDING ZONING CASE 20 0 2 3 COUNSEL.
UM, SO WE, WE APPROVED A DILEMMA AGREEMENT THAT, THAT MADE IT OPTION A THAT WE MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR GEORGETOWN TO SERVICE THEM, UH, WITH WATER, RIGHT.
AND SO, UM, AND, AND THIS IS THE INTENTION OF THIS PROPERTY, IF IT, IF IT LOOKS RIGHT HERE TOO, THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT'S IN GEORGETOWN.
SO IT WOULD LIKE CONNECT INTO THERE.
CORRECT? IS THE DEVELOPER HERE? YEP.
AND GOOD TO SEE YOU, UM, IS THE INTENTION THAT IT'S GOING TO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S JUST THE NEXT PHASE OR WHATEVER IT WOULD BE.
BUT SINCE IT'S IN AN R I R U T J IT'S COMING INTO OUR JURY JURISDICTION.
WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD OF GEORGETOWN SERVICING THE WATER LIKE THEY WOULD DO IN THE, UM, IN THE OTHER PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT OUR DA YEAH, SORRY.
IT'S MY ONLY, THIS IS MY ONLY HANGUP FOR THE HALLOWEEN.
WE'VE RECEIVED THIS, GOT THIS ROLLING.
MY NAME IS DUSK NINE HOUSE WITH THE BLAKE MCGEE COMPANY.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
UM, WE HAVE IN OUR DA, UH, DUAL CERTIFICATION LANGUAGE, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY FACILITATED A MEETING BETWEEN CITY OF LANDER GEORGETOWN TO, TO TAKE THAT ON GEORGETOWN CERTAINLY IS PREPARED TO DO THAT.
UM, THEY ARE PREPARED TO DO THAT, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THE FUNDAMENTALS.
WHO'S COMFORTABLE WITH OVERLAPPING CC HANDS AND A LITTLE OVER MY PAY GRADE, BUT WE'VE GOT THAT BALL ROLLING.
SO THERE'S GOOD COMMUNICATION THERE.
CAN I ASK, ARE, CAN I ASK COUNCIL THEN COULD, COULD WE MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT THAT LIKE TO, TO, UH, MAKE AN APPROVAL BASED ON, UM, CONTINGENT UPON GEORGETOWN ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO LIKE OFFICIALLY SERVICE YOU? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE OR NOT.
MAYBE NOT, BUT I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.
CAUSE I HADN'T GOTTEN AN ANSWER YET THAT I THINK THAT WOULD, I THINK THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A DIFFICULT APPROVAL TO ADMINISTER.
I'M NOT SURE HOW TO FAIR ENOUGH GIVEN ALTERNATIVE RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT.
SO WHAT SOLUTIONS CAN WE BE OFFERED? PROBABLY NOTHING.
IT'S LIKE, YOU COULD, WE COULD APPROVE IT KNOWING THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.
WE WOULD HAVE TO SUPPLY THAT PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THIS, THIS PART, UM, WITH WATER OR, UM, OR WE DON'T, WE DON'T APPROVE IT BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION THAT WE'D BE IN BECAUSE THERE'S NO NOTHING BINDING, BUT THEN WE CAN'T DO IT IS WHAT YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU TO COMFORT LEVEL BEFORE I WENT THERE.
UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE FOR THAT HAPPENING.
UM, IT WAS POSITIVE MEETING IF THAT MAKES YOU FEEL ANY BETTER, POSITIVE MEETINGS ARE GREAT.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THIS IS.
IS THIS RIGHT NEXT TO THE PARKSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS IN GEORGETOWN? I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
IS IT NEXT TO THE PARKSIDE PARKSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD? UH, OUR SIDE IS DOWN TO THE SOUTH.
IT'S NOT THE AREA IN BLUE THERE.
UH, YOU'RE CONNECTING TO LIKE NORTHWEST NORTHEAST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? OR JUST TO THE YES, THE TOP RIGHT CORNER.
OF THE RED THAT THERE IS THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN, WHICH WE HAVE 135 LIVES BEING DESIGNED.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TYING INTO WITH ACCESS UTILITIES AND EVERYTHING LIFT STATION THAT WILL BE UTILIZED FOR WASTEWATER.
SHE KNOWS WHAT ELSE THAT GEORGETOWN'S PREPARED IN THE ERA WHEN WE WERE DRAFTED AT DA, BOTH PARTIES WERE A PART OF THAT DEGREE.
JUST, I WANTED TO ADD TO WHAT THE DA PROVIDES IS FOR GEORGETOWN TO GET A CCN, TO BE ABLE TO SERVE.
AND WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH GEORGETOWN IN WHICH THEY'VE SUGGESTED OTHER OPTIONS TO GET APPROVAL TO SERVE.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S JUST A KIND OF A REGULATORY PROCESS.
THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GET PERMISSION TO SERVE IN THAT AREA.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SAYS ONE THING AND THEY'RE PROPOSING JUST A DIFFERENT MECHANISM.
THAT'S WHAT'S BEING CONSIDERED AT THE STAFF LEVEL.
LEANDER STAFF LEVEL IS WHAT'S AN APPROPRIATE, HOW DO WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN? IS IT A TRANSFER OF CFC? AND IS IT A DOABLE CCN? SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ISSUE
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THERE.I HAVE A QUESTION FROM ASSIGNS ACTUALLY.
UM, WHY DID THE ANNEX TO US AND NOT TO GEORGETOWN? COULD WE HAVE WORKED THAT OUT ADMINISTRATOR? SO WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US AND IT'S BEEN AT LEAST A YEAR, MAYBE TWO YEARS WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY BROUGHT TO THE CITY, THIS PROPERTY WAS IN THE CITY'S ETJ AND IT WAS SUBJECT TO THE ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHERE Y'ALL HAD DONE IT IN VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.
AND THEN, AND WE ENTERED INTO THE, ENTERED INTO THE, UM, THE, THE NON ANNEXATION AGREEMENT WHERE THEY STAND THE ETJ UNTIL THE, UNTIL THEY DEVELOP.
SO WHEN THE DEVELOPER CAME TO THE TABLE AND THEY HAD THE LARGER, THIS WAS PART OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, PART IN GEORGETOWN AND PART IN LANDER, THE DISCUSSION WITH THE STAFF AT THAT TIME WAS WE WANT THAT TO STAY IN OUR JURISDICTION AND WE WANT YOU TO ANNEX.
SO THOSE WERE, THAT WAS, THOSE WERE THE BUSINESS TERMS THAT WERE NEGOTIATED AT THE TIME THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS ENTERED.
AND SO NOW IT'S TOO LATE TO CHANGE THAT.
WELL, I MEAN, YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH OTHER AGREEMENTS.
IT'S STILL BE IN OUR CCN UNTIL THAT AGREEMENT WITH GEORGETOWN HAS DONE THAT.
WELL, WE JUST ANNEX IS WE DID FIRST READING TONIGHT, CORRECT? YEAH.
SO YOU HAVEN'T FINALIZED ANY OF THAT.
IT'S JUST, WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS? ARE THERE AGREEMENTS? CAN WE RUN IT? YOU JUST SAID THAT, ARE YOU SAYING, GIVE IT TO GEORGETOWN? YOU SAYING WHY WASN'T THAT PART OF THE DISCUSSION? OKAY.
WAS THAT GEORGIA TECH AND LET THEM DEAL WITH ALL THIS ISSUE PROBLEMS. I MEAN, IF ALL OF THEIR UTILITIES ARE BEING RUN THAT WAY ANYWAY, IT JUST MAKES MORE SENSE.
LIKE, YEAH, IT ADDS TO OUR TAX ROLLS, BUT IF THEY'RE RUNNING EVERYTHING THAT WAY, WHY, WHY BOTHER? WELL, WHAT WE CAN DO IS YOU, SO YOU HAD DONE FIRST READING ON ANNEXATION.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW THE IMPACT ON THE DEVELOPER FOR CHANGING EVERYTHING.
SO THAT'S KIND OF A DISCUSSION AMONGST THE GROUP CITY TEAM AND DEVELOPER TEAM.
UM, YOU'VE NOT FINALIZED ANNEXATION.
YOU CAN DO FIRST READING OF ZONING AND SEE WHAT PROGRESS IS MADE RELATED TO THOSE KINDS OF DISCUSSIONS TO CHANGE THINGS.
UM, AND WE CAN COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING OR REPORT TO COUNCIL AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME ABOUT WHAT, IF ANYTHING MAY BE A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE.
WHAT IF WE DENIED ZONING? I WOULD RECOMMEND EITHER DOING FIRST READING OR TABLING OKAY.
TO ALLOW FOR THE OPTIONS BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DEVELOPERS DESIRES ARE TO STOP YOUR DEVELOPMENT.
AND YOU'RE THE NEXT ONE I WANT TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU PLEASE.
UM, WHY WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN JUST ANALYZING INTO GEORGETOWN? HAS THAT BEEN A DISCUSSION? SO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT HASN'T OKAY.
I CAME INTO THIS PROJECT A LITTLE LATER THAN IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS ALREADY BEING DRAFTED AND IT HAS NOT BEEN A CONVERSATION.
DO YOU THINK YOU'D BE IN, AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT GEORGETOWN ETJ AND LEANDER ETJ.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED BECAUSE I COULD SEE GEORGETOWN SAYING TRUE.
I JUST, IT, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE IT'S CONFUSING WHEN YOU HAVE THE SAME DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S STRADDLING TWO DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES.
IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO BE IN ONE, JUST FOR EASE OF THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE WORTH THAT CONVERSATION.
AND ALSO, CAN YOU GET SOMETHING FROM GEORGETOWN SAYING THAT THEY CAN SUPPLY THE WATER? WELL, THAT'S WHAT THE, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TAUGHT.
BUT ARE THEY BUYING IT FROM US TO SUPPLY IT? NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS IT, BUT THAT, THAT
THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT CCN NAZI AND THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION STEPPING IN, OR, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT APPARATUSES WE'LL MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
THIS IS JUST AS MESSY FOR US AS WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT AS CLEAN AS POSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE YOU WANT TO SAY, DESCRIBE MS. SCIENCE, WHAT ARE YOU MOST COMFORTABLE WITH US DOING RIGHT NOW? IS THAT OKAY TO NO ACTION YET? OR I'M OKAY WITH, WITH NO ACTION.
IF THAT DOESN'T IMPACT THE DEVELOPER NEGATIVELY OR YES.
POSTPONEMENT POSTPONE THE FIRST READING.
UM, UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEY HAVE CERTAINTY WITH LEANDRA AS TO WHAT THEIR DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ARE, WHAT THEIR USES ARE.
SO THAT, THAT HAS VALUE TO THE DEVELOPER CERTAINTY.
SO I THINK THEY'LL HAVE TO INVESTIGATE
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THAT ISSUE, BUT IF YOU POSTPONE IT, THANK YOU, THEN, THEN, UH, THEN WE'VE GOT OPTIONS OPEN.I DON'T WANT TO DO IT THAT I'M TREATING AGAIN.
THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION IS TO GO AHEAD AND DO FIRST READING, DO FIRST READING AND EITHER PASS OR DENY.
AND IT'LL JUST COME BACK FOR A SECOND READING REGARDLESS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WE WOULD POSTPONE SECOND READING UNTIL WE HAVE A SPECIFIC, UH, BUSINESS TERMS AND OPTIONS FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ALL THREE OF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT.
SO THEN MOVING NOW, WELL, MAYBE WE'RE VOTING ON SOME SORT OF APPROVAL RIGHT NOW AND POSTPONING THE SECOND, KEEP MOVING, BUT WE NEED THOSE THINGS TO ANSWER.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DENIAL.
UH, THREE TO FOUR DENY IF YOU, IF YOU DENY IT, IT'S OVER, IT'S JUST NOT APPROVED.
THIS GUY SHOULD BE, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
MY, MY THING IS I DON'T WANT IT.
I DON'T PERSONALLY WANT TO TAKE THE RISK.
UM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THERE, BUT I WILL RECONSIDER AND I'LL CHANGE MY VOTE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THE DEVELOPER IN THIS CASE SHOULD BE HELD BACK, UM, IN THIS CASE.
BUT WE GOT TO KNOW THAT THESE THINGS GOTTA BE WORKED OUT BY THE SECOND READING.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, IF IT'S EVEN RELEVANT, BUT WE ARE GOING TO START DELIVERING WATER.
UM, THIS FALL TO GEORGETOWN AS PER THAT OTHER AGREEMENT, THREE MGD.
UH, NOT THAT THEY WOULD GO TO THAT IMMEDIATELY.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IF THAT DISCUSSION COULD ALSO FEED BACK INTO, UM, OBVIOUSLY THEIR SERVICE OF IT, IF THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE FEASIBLE.
SO IN THE LARGER SCHEME OF THINGS.
SO HOW DO WE DO THIS? DO WE MAKE A, MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER? IT HAS TO BE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE OF THE VOTE.
SO IT WAS A DENIAL ON THE PREVAILING SIDE OF THE VOTE.
SO WE MAKE A MOTION, MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
IS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON RECONSIDERING, RIGHT? OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECONSIDERING, OPPOSED? 6, 2, 1 COUNCIL MEMBERS OR NICK.
YOU WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION? YEAH.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, TO APPROVE ONE SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL.
I THINK THIS IS A WEIRD NIGHT.
ITEM 29 HAS BEEN PULLED FROM THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT.
[30. Conduct a Public Hearing to consider the proposed budget for Fiscal Year 2022. Discuss and consider action on an Ordinance adopting a budget for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2021 and ending September 30, 2022; appropriating the various amounts thereof, and repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict therewith; and providing for an effective date.]
SO WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM 30, CONDUCT, A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE POWERS WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW.LET'S SEE IF YOURS IS A LITTLE SMOOTHER.
THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, THIS ITEM AND THE NEXT ITEM ARE, UH, RELATED OBVIOUSLY THE BUDGET AND THEN THE TAX RATE.
BUT, UH, THERE IS A REASON THEY'RE IN THIS ORDER AND THEY'RE REQUIRED TO, TO GO IN THIS ORDER.
FIRST, A TAXING ENTITY IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO ADOPT A BUDGET BEFORE IT CAN ADOPT A TAX RATE.
SO THAT'S WHY THE BUDGET ALWAYS COMES FIRST.
UM, BUT DURING THIS PRESENTATION, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL BE A SMOOTH AND, UH, BRIEF THE, UM, THERE ARE ISSUES THAT COME UP IN THE DISCUSSION OF THE BUDGET THAT IMPACTS THE TAX RATE.
SO JUST KIND OF A SPOILER ALERT IF YOU'RE HAVE THINGS OR, UM, THINGS YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHEN YOU GET TO THE TAX RATE SECTION, UM, WHEN IT'S AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING DURING THE BUDGET AND IT'S TIME TO TALK, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE TIME TO, TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS AFFECTS THAT.
SO WITH ALL THAT LAID IN, UM, FIRST I WANT TO, UM, COMPLIMENT, UH, JODY LEVY, ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR.
SHE PUT TOGETHER THIS, UH, PRESENTATION AND, UH, HOPEFULLY I'LL, I'LL DO IT JUSTICE, BUT, UM, I THINK EVERYONE HERE KNOWS CERTAINLY THE STAFF, UH, KNOWS.
AND THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE
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THE BUDGET ENCOMPASSES A LOT OF DIFFERENT ELEMENTS.WE ARE NOT GONNA GO INTO EACH ONE OF THOSE, UH, TONIGHT IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT, UH, THERE IS A LOT THAT GOES INTO, UH, UH, THE, THE BUDGET AND, AND IT IS A LONG PROCESS.
IT'S STARTS AS LEAST WITH STAFF.
IT STARTS IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH WHEN WE GET STARTED.
UM, IT'S NOT A WINDING ROAD LIKE THIS CHART MAKES IT LOOK LIKE, BUT, UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF STEPS ALONG THE WAY.
SO IT HAD TO FIT ON ONE SLIDE, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE DEPARTMENTS, UH, START WORKING WITH FINANCE AND SUBMIT THEIR BUDGETS IN THE SPRING.
WE THEN HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
UM, THINGS ARE ADDED, THINGS ARE CUT.
UM, IT'S SIMULTANEOUSLY ON A, ON A SEPARATE PATH.
UM, UH, THE CIP BUDGET AND PROJECT PLAN IS, IS WORKING AS, AS WELL AND FINANCE, UH, AND THE DEPARTMENTS PLAY AN ASSIST ROLE WITH, WITH THAT PROCESS AS WELL.
ALL OF THAT COALESCES IN, IN LATE JUNE AND JULY WITH THE CITY MANAGER, MAKING THE FINAL DECISIONS ON, ON HIS PROPOSED BUDGET, THE BUDGETS ARE ALWAYS BALANCED EITHER WITH, UH, REVENUES COMING IN OR WITH USE OF AVAILABLE RESERVES FAST FORWARD TO AUGUST 5TH, WE PRESENTED YOU WITH THE TRUTH AND TAXATION PROPERTY TAX CALCULATIONS.
UH, THAT'S WHEN, UH, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO VOTE FOR THE, UH, TAX RATES CEILING, THE HIGHEST RATE THAT YOU CAN GO THAT POINT FORWARD, WHICH YOU DID ON AUGUST 5TH.
AND SO HERE WE ARE ON SEPTEMBER 2ND FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET AND THEN SUB AND ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET, HOPEFULLY.
AND IF THAT HAPPENS IN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE AND FIRST READING OF THE TAX RATE, THE TAX RATE REQUIRES TWO RATINGS.
SO, UH, ASSUMING THAT IT PASSES TONIGHT, UM, IT'LL BE FOR SECOND AND FINAL ON THE, ON THE NEXT MEETING.
UH, THE CITY OF LEANDER IS, UM, BUDGET IS, UH, PRETTY ENCOMPASSING, UH, THE THREE MAJOR FUNDS, THE FUNDS THAT HAVE PEOPLE OR THE GENERAL FUND, THE GOLF FUND AND THE UTILITY FUND, UH, THIS CHART SHOWS THE, UH, ADOPTED BUDGET FOR THE CURRENT YEAR OF FISCAL 2021.
AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL 22.
THOSE TWO ACTS TO RICS IS, UH, ARE RELATED TO CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS.
SO WHEN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED BUDGET, IT'S THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU RECEIVED? UH, THIS IS THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET WHEN THAT DOCUMENT WAS PRODUCED, THE CIP FOR 22 WAS STILL, UH, UNDER, UNDER, UNDER WORK.
SO WE'LL GET TO THAT LATER IN THIS PRESENTATION, UM, THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET WAS BASED ON A, UH, ANTICIPATED TAX RATE OF 0.48 CENTS.
UM, YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT THE RATE YOU CONSIDERED ON AUGUST 5TH WAS THE, UH, MAXIMUM THAT THE CITY OF LEANDER WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER STATE LAW TO GO TO THAT'S THE 0.4 9 9 1 6 6.
SO BETWEEN, AGAIN, THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET AND EVERYTHING THAT'S IN IT.
AND THE TAX RATE THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER IT'S A LITTLE OVER 1.90 CENTS DIFFERENCE WITH OUR TAX BASE THAT TRANSLATES INTO A $1.4 MILLION.
SO AS I GO THROUGH THE WHAT'S IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, THAT IS ALL BASED ON THE, UH, CITY MANAGERS PROPOSED RATE.
AND THIS AGAIN WAS BACK AT THE END OF JULY, 1ST OF AUGUST.
UM, WE ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS CHART, UH, THE CITY COUNCILS, UH, IN THE PAST, AND THIS COUNCIL OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, THE TAX RATE HAS DRAMATICALLY DROPPED NEARLY 20 CENTS IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
UM, PROPERTY TAX RATES ARE, OR PROPERTY TAXES ARE A FUNCTION OF TWO THINGS, THE RATE AND THE BASE AND PEOPLE WHO PAY THOSE TAXES KNOW THAT THEY'RE THE BILL IS BASED ON HOW VALUABLE THEIR PROPERTY IS, TIMES TIMES THE RATE.
SO THE OTHER HALF OF THIS, THIS CHART IS THE TAX SPACE.
AND IF WE HAD THAT CHART, UH, IT WOULD JUST BE THE OPPOSITE.
WE ALL KNOW THAT THE TAX VALUES
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IN LAND OR HAVE, HAVE DRAMATICALLY INCREASED, UM, WE'RE APPROACHING $8 BILLION IN VALUE THIS YEAR.ANOTHER REVENUE DRIVER IN THE GENERAL FUND IS SALES TAX.
IT CONTINUES TO CLIMB AND AS WE'VE DISCUSSED MANY TIMES, UH, DEVELOPMENT RELATED FEES, UH, BUILDING PERMITS, ZONING, SUBDIVISION, UM, THOSE TYPES OF FEES, UH, HAVE DRAMATICALLY INCREASED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL, SEVERAL YEARS.
UH, I WANT TO JUST CAUTION AGAIN, THAT THAT'S NOT TO BE ALARMED, THAT THAT IS NOT A FORECASTED DECLINE IN ANY DEVELOPMENT, BUT, UM, WE BUDGET VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVELY WITH, WITH DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE IF IT DOESN'T COME IN, THEN IT'S A HARD STOP AND, UH, TOUGH TO, UH, UH, TURN WHEN, WHEN REVENUE EVEN SLOWS DOWN IN THIS CASE.
UH, BUT I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT WHEN WE HAVE SURPLUSES, LIKE FROM TWO YEARS AGO TO THIS PAST YEAR, THE END OF YEAR SURPLUS IN THE GENERAL FUND IS WHAT GENERATES FUNDS THE FOLLOWING YEAR TO DO CAPITAL PROJECTS.
SO, UH, THERE IS A METHOD TO, IT'S NOT JUST BEING CONSERVATIVE.
UM, IT'S, THERE'S AN INTENTIONAL DESIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME, SOME REVENUES TO DO SMALLER SCALE CAPITAL PROJECTS THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
SO WE'LL GO TO SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS IN THE GENERAL FUND AND THE UTILITY FUND TOGETHER OVER 47 NEW POSITIONS.
AND YOU'VE, YOU'VE SEEN THIS LIST BEFORE ALMOST EVERY DEPARTMENT, UH, IS IN NEED OF ADDITIONAL STAFF.
AND, UH, I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH ALMOST, UH, OR MOST OF THAT, THOSE, THOSE NEEDS SOME OF THESE POSITIONS, UM, JUST WITH A DOUBLE ASSED ASTERIX WERE ACTUALLY, UH, CREATED IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, BUT AFTER THE ADOPTED BUDGET.
SO WHEN LOOKING AT ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT IT'S, IT JUST RECONCILED.
SO, UM, OTHER NON PERSONNEL ITEMS THAT WERE IN THE, UM, THE GENERAL FUND IS IT'S A LONG LIST, A LOT OF VARIED AND DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT, UM, I WILL POINT OUT THAT IN THIS YEAR, OTHER THAN, UH, UNLIKE, UM, MANY OTHER YEARS, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, REPLACE SOME REALLY OLD EQUIPMENT.
I MEAN, UH, THE, THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE ASKED FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO REPLACE, UH, SOME OF THIS EQUIPMENT THAT IS NOT ON THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, SUCH AS, UM, UH, PUBLIC WORKS HAS, UH, AN EXCAVATOR AND THERE'S, UH, SKID STEERS AND ALL THOSE FUNNY SOUNDING NAMES.
THOSE ARE NOT ON AN AUTOMATIC REPLACEMENT PROGRAMS. SO WE HAVE JUST NOT HAD THE FUNDS IN THE PAST TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE THAT HIGH DOLLAR EQUIPMENT.
BUT, UM, IT'S NOT A FEW YEARS OLD, WE'RE TALKING 10, 15, UM, 20 YEARS OLD IN SOME CASES.
UH, MANY OF THOSE THINGS WERE ABLE TO GET, GET, UH, APPROVED.
UM, THERE IS A LARGE TICKET IN THERE FOR, UH, A, A NEW FIRE ENGINE.
AND, UH, THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT, UM, LEANDER OVER THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS IS ADDED.
SO, UH, I'M GETTING MY NUMBERS WRONG, AT LEAST THREE NEW FIRE STATIONS AND EACH FIRE STATION THAT COMES, COMES EQUIPPED WITH AN ENGINE AND AN ADDITIONAL APPARATUS.
UH, BUT THERE'S ALSO A RATIO AND A NEED FOR RESERVE ENGINE, SO THAT WHEN A FRONTLINE ENGINE IS, IS OUT OF SERVICE, UM, SOMETHING CAN STEP IN ITS IN ITS PLACE BECAUSE LAND OR HAS ADDED SO MANY NEW STATIONS.
WE HAVEN'T HAD THE ABILITY TO CREATE RESERVES.
SO EACH STATION HAS THE FRONTLINE ENGINE WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE THERE, BUT WE'RE LACKING IN THE NUMBER OF ENGINES THAT ARE RESERVED.
AND THEN WHAT WE DO HAVE ARE APPROACHING, YOU KNOW, 15, 20 YEARS OF LIFE.
SO, UM, UH, FORTUNATELY WE HAD THE, UH, THE REVENUES IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE TO, UH, TO, TO FUND THAT A FEW THINGS IN THE, IN THE UTILITY FUND, DOWN, DOWN BELOW, UH, GINA AND DAN CAN EXPLAIN THOSE THINGS.
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UH, WE WENT THROUGH WHAT'S SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT'S FUNDED IN THE CITY, MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET.UH, THERE ARE ALSO SOME OTHER, UH, ITEMS THAT WERE REQUESTED, BUT NOT, DID NOT MAKE THE CUT, AT LEAST NOT IN THE CITY, MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET.
UM, I'M GOING TO COVER THIS LIST, BUT I WANT TO ASK, THIS IS ONE TIME, THE LIST OF ONE TIME THINGS THAT MEANS, UM, IT'S NOT A RECURRING, LIKE, UH, THIS IS RECURRING EXPENSES, THAT'S THE LIST.
UM, THOSE ARE PEOPLE OR SO WE SEPARATE REQUESTS BETWEEN ONE TIME AND RECURRING.
I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS THE AND FARMSTEAD, UH, COUNCIL ED HAD, UH, DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT, THAT BE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
SO, UM, HERE IT IS THE, UM, UM, SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO FUND IT? THE, IT CAN COME FROM TWO PLACES.
ONE IS, IT CAN, IT CAN, UH, YOU CAN USE SOME OF THE TAX RATE TO, TO GENERATE THAT $300,000 OR GROWTH HAS NOT SLOWED DOWN ONE IOTA, EVEN SINCE WE DEVELOPED THE FINAL TOUCHES OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET BACK IN JULY.
SO TODAY WE HAVE PROJECTED AN ADDITIONAL $1.2 MILLION IN RESERVES OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WE WERE PLANNING ON IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
UH, SO IF ALL OF THAT 1.2 WAS SPENT, WE WOULD STILL MAINTAIN OUR, OUR, UH, MINIMUM RESERVE REQUIREMENT OF 25%.
SO THAT IS AT YOUR DISCRETION, UH, TO USE ANY OF THAT, UH, ON ANY OF THESE, ANY OF THESE ONE-TIME PROJECTS, UM, WHERE YOU CERTAINLY, WHEN IT COMES TIME TO THE, UH, UH, COUNCIL DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE OTHER, UH, NEEDS THAT, THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT THAT FOR, BUT, UH, ANYTHING FROM THIS LIST COULD EITHER BE FUNDED WITH THAT ADDITIONAL TAX RATE OR THIS, UM, $1.2 MILLION SURPLUS, THE NEXT LIST.
THESE ARE ALL OPERATING EXPENSES, SO THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE FUNDED OUT OF THE ONE-TIME FUND.
SO IF THERE IS ANYTHING ON THIS LIST OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT, UH, COMES UP EITHER DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS OR YOUR DISCUSSIONS, UM, THEN THIS WOULD COME FROM THAT TAX RATE DISCUSSION, UTILITY FUND CONTINUES TO GROW ITSELF, SUPPORTING RATES, WATER, AND SEWER RATES, DEVELOPMENT FEES, PAY FOR THE WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE, JUST TO REITERATE STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING ANY RATE INCREASE, EITHER WATER OR SEWER, UH, THIS YEAR.
AND WE, UH, STILL WANT TO REFINE, UH, UM, A PROPOSAL AND BRING THAT BACK TO ON A TIERED RATES FOR CONSERVATION BLOCKS.
SO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO YOU AT THE, AT THE LAST WORKSHOP, UM, THE COLUMN THAT'S F Y 22, UH, THESE WERE THE, THE TOTAL FUNDS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED IN WHAT YOU SAW, UH, DURING THAT WORK SESSION, HERE'S A COMPREHENSIVE LIST, BUT WHEN YOU GET TO THE ACTUAL ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET ORDINANCE, THERE'S TWO, UH, EXHIBITS IN YOUR, IN YOUR PACKET, EXHIBIT A IS THE RECOMMENDED CIP LIST.
AND IF IT'S ALL GOOD AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CHANGES, THEN YOU WOULD JUST, UM, INCLUDE EXHIBIT A IN YOUR MOTION TO ADOPT THE BUDGET.
AND ALL OF THESE, UM, PROJECTS WOULD THEN BE BUDGETED IN THE, IN THE BUDGET FOR THE COMING FISCAL, UH, UH, FISCAL YEAR.
UM, AND THERE'S A LOT COVERS QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT DIFFERENT FUNDS.
UM, THE OTHER EXHIBIT EXHIBIT B IS THE LIST OF, OF UNFUNDED, UM, SUPPLEMENTS
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THAT THOSE ONE-TIME PROJECTS AND THE, UM, ADDITIONAL RECURRING COST.SO WHEN YOU GET TIME TO VOTE ON THE BUDGET, JUST REMEMBER THAT THERE'S TWO EXHIBITS THAT, THAT ALSO NEED TO BE INCLUDED, OR, OR WE RISE.
SO, UH, SO THAT WRAPS UP THE PRESENTATION, THERE'LL BE A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN STAFF IS CERTAINLY AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? OKAY, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE, ADOPTING A BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, BEGINNING, OCTOBER 1ST, 2021, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022, APPROPRIATING THE VARIOUS AMOUNTS THEREOF AND REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THERE WITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I DIDN'T SEE A BLADE ANYWHERE IN THERE.
ARE WE GETTING A BLADE? DID YOU EVEN ASK FOR A BLADE? I KNOW WE'LL NEVER PROBABLY EVER USE IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BREAK LATER ON.
WE SAID, WHEN WE SAT IN THAT MEETING IN FEBRUARY OR THE ATTACHMENT, WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE AND WE COULDN'T GET ONE AND WE COULDN'T GET OUR RESIDENTS AND WE COULDN'T GET EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO ARREST.
IT'S GOING TO SIT, IT'S GOING TO SIT AND RUN, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.
AT LEAST WE'LL HAVE ONE BECAUSE WE COULD NOT GET ONE.
ACTUALLY, I THOUGHT IT WASN'T THERE, BUT LET ME DOUBLE CHECK.
THEN I THOUGHT THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE ONE WAS JUST TO ATTACH EXACTLY WHAT WAS IN THERE.
I DO REMEMBER VEHICLES ARE PURCHASED OUT OF THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FUND.
AND IF THE VEHICLE IS, IS UP FOR REPLACEMENT, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT ATTACHMENT IS INCLUDED IN THAT, IN THAT BID.
NUMBER TWO, STAFFING, YOU HAVE THE STAFFING THAT YOU NEED THIS YEAR, OR THIS BUDGET FOR A CITY OF 80,000 PEOPLE.
THAT'S KIND OF A LOADED QUESTION.
IT'S A LOADED QUESTION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WITH OUR GROWTH RATE, WHAT WE'VE PRESENTED IS WHAT WE THINK IS THE STILL CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.
EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ADDING A CONSIDERABLE STAFF IN SEVERAL AREAS WITH, IF THIS GROWTH CONTINUES ON THIS TRAJECTORY.
NOW, OBVIOUSLY RIGHT NOW, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT, AT OUR LOADS PARTICULAR AREAS, UM, WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST OUR ABILITY TO KEEP UP WITH PARKS, THE LOAD IN BOTH PLANNING AND ENGINEERING, UM, KIND OF ACROSS THE BOARD WORK, WE'RE FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE ACROSS MOST OF THE AREAS.
SOME OF THE OTHERS WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE WHERE WE DO.
I MEAN, QUITE FRANKLY, IT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO WORK HERE IN CERTAIN DIVISIONS, YOU'RE GOING TO WORK HARDER PROBABLY FOR, PROBABLY FOR COMPARABLE MONEY.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF PROPORTIONALITY, I MEAN, WE, WE DID APPROVE LAST MONTH, OVER 350 SINGLE FAMILY PERMITS.
SO SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE COUNT THEM ON ONE HAND.
UM, SO GIVE YOU SOME FLAVOR FOR, LET ME REPHRASE THE QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO STAY ABOVE WATER? WE BELIEVE THAT WE BELIEVE THAT WITH OUR GROWTH, WE'RE STILL TAKING A FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN BECOME MORE EFFECTIVE EVEN IN THE
UH, WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE'VE, WE'RE PRIORITIZING.
UH, SOME OF THE THINGS ARE COMING ONLINE NOW, RIGHT NOW, SUCH AS COMING OFF MY PERMIT NOW INTO THE NEW SOFTWARE, SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE OTHER ONE OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, IT'S, THAT'S BEING CREATED, ONE OF THE APPROACHES IS WE'RE ALSO ADDING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT JUST ADDING NEW, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS, WE'RE AT WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING THE ACTUAL PEOPLE SECOND AND THIRD TIER UNDER THEM THAT ARE DOING THE BULK OF THAT WORK.
SO LET'S JUST SAY, SO FOLKS AS AN EXAMPLE, LIKE ROBIN CAN ALSO WORK ON SOME BIG PICTURE THINGS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW HER GROUP IS CARRYING SUCH A LOAD.
UH, SHE'S REALLY, SHE'S, SHE'S AMAZING, BUT WE WOULDN'T WANT HER TO BE THE EXAMPLE THAT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE TO BE ALL THE TIME, BECAUSE THAT'S ALMOST AN UNSUSTAINABLE AMOUNT OF LOAD FOR,
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FOR ONE PERSON FOR ONE DIVISION.SO LET'S JUST SAY THIS, EVEN WITH THE AMOUNT WE'RE ADDING RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE AT A SPACE CHALLENGE TO GO ANY HIGHER.
WE'RE VERY LIKELY TO NEED A COUPLE PORTABLES ONCE WE'RE FULLY STAFFED.
SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND, AS YOU'VE NOTICED, EVEN WHEN YOU COME THROUGH THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR, YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE PEOPLE'S DESKS AND WHAT, AND WHAT WERE LOBBIES AND WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE GIVEN UP CONFERENCE ROOM SPACE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
NEXT, YOU CAN JUST TELL ME YES, YES, YES.
WE REALLY CAN'T GROW ANY MORE TILL WE GET A LARGER FACILITY, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, AND I WANT TO ASK THAT AS CODE UPDATES, THE THING FOR THE CODE UPDATES, WOULD THAT NOT PAY FOR ITSELF TENFOLD AND WE NOT NEED TO DO THAT.
LIKE NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OUT OF THE, BACK TO THE OPTIONAL LIST.
150,000, 150,000 FOR CODE UPDATES.
WOULD THAT NOT HELP YOU TREMENDOUSLY? I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WENT BACK IN THERE BECAUSE THAT KIND OF GOES WITH THE GO PERMIT SOME AND ALSO POINTED OUT ANOTHER ONE.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE REORG, WE ALSO DID INCLUDE 50,000 FOR A THIRD PARTY, UH, DEVELOPMENT PERMIT PROCESS REVIEW.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY TACKLING IT FROM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THE, THE CODE UPDATES.
IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT, UH, THE GOING TO ENCODE FROM MY PERMIT NOW AND, UH, ALSO THE, THE REORG.
SO IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT AS WELL, THIS IS TO TRY TO TROUBLESHOOT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO BETTER, UH, GIVEN OUR VOLUME, UH, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT SLIPPED THROUGH THE CRACKS AND THOSE INVARIABLY DO COME UP, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER.
AND THAT'S WHAT THAT WOULD ALSO DO.
ERIC QUESTION FOR PAUL, I KNOW WHICH ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING OUT.
IS IT GOING HOME OR IS IT COMING UP HERE? HE'S MAKING THE GRAND ENTRANCE DOWN.
TELL ME THE BENEFITS OF PROS AND CONS OF 365 OVER THE CURRENT SYSTEM WE HAVE NOW.
UM, I WANT TO KEEP THEM SHORT AND SWEET.
MAKE SURE WE DON'T GIVE OUR HAND ON THE SECURITY, BUT HE'S GOT, I'VE GOT A FEW LINES FOR YOU HERE.
STAKEHOLDERS IN VARIOUS CITY DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING CITY COUNCIL HAD BROUGHT CONCERNS TO ATTENTION OF IN REGARDS TO THE CITY, NOT CURRENTLY PROVIDING BUSINESS COLLABORATION TOOLS, WHICH HAVE BECOME A STANDARD IN THE PRIVATE AND GOVERNMENT SECTORS.
AN OFFICE 365 SUBSCRIPTION WOULD REMEDY THAT ISSUE.
AS AN EXAMPLE, IT'S NOT CURRENTLY POSSIBLE FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO SHARE A SPREADSHEET WITH THE DEVELOPER AND HAVE REAL TIME CHANGES MADE BY MULTIPLE PARTIES.
THIS SLOWS DOWN CITY BUSINESS PROCESSES AND LEADS TO FRUSTRATION.
I THINK THAT'S A NECESSITY TOO.
MY TWO THINGS HAVE BEEN STAFF AND TECHNOLOGY.
UM, I'D LIKE TO THREE, THE THREE, SIX POP I HAVE, UM, LOOK, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF STOPLIGHTS.
I THINK, I THINK THEY'RE REGRESSIVE, BUT OVER EAST STREET THAT STOPLIGHT AT SUNNY AND BAGHDAD, I DON'T KNOW WHY I'LL JUST GO PUBLIC.
I I'VE BEEN IN MEETING AFTER MEETING ABOUT EAST STREET AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONE ALL OVER THE PLACE AND NOW IT'S ABOUT UTILITIES, BUT WE'RE GOING TO USE TRANSPORTATION FUNDS TO PAY FOR UTILITIES.
I SAY, TAKE THAT MONEY THAT YOU WERE SPENDING ON THAT I KNOW THERE'S GOTTA BE DEAD, BUT FIND THAT MONEY TO DO THAT STOPLIGHT.
CAUSE WE WANT THAT OFF THE PLATE AT THIS POINT, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A DISASTER, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
UM, AND I JUST WANT TO GET THAT UP OVER THAT.
THERE'S NO RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR EAST STREET.
I'VE BEEN IN MEETINGS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, AND NOW IT'S DOWN TO UTILITIES AND I'M JUST LIKE, THERE'S THAT PROJECT STARTED AS A $60,000 PROJECT AND BALLOONED TO 4 MILLION.
AND NOW IT'S AT 2 MILLION AND WHO KNOWS WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO FROM THAT? MEL MATHIS TOOK OVER THAT.
SO EACH STREET IS IN MY OPINION, NO RETURN OF INVESTMENT.
AND LASTLY, CONGRATULATIONS BUILDING DESERVE YOU WHEN YOU GOT YOUR OLD WON'T LIVE.
AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT WITH THE OFFICE 365, UM, AT CAP COG, WE ARE ADMINISTRATORS FOR SOME OF THE, THE STATE GRANTS FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND ALL OF OUR GRANT REQUESTS GOT KICKED BACK THIS YEAR.
AND WE WERE TOLD THAT WE HAD TO FOCUS ON, UM, IT INFRASTRUCTURE AND SECURITY SO THAT THERE ARE LESS HACKS FROM OUTSIDE AGENCIES.
WE HAVE AMAZING PEOPLE IN OUR IT DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE KEPT US FROM BEING IN THE HEADLINES, BUT OUR, UM, OUR SOFTWARE
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IS GETTING OLDER AND OLDER AND, UH, AND NOT GONNA LIE.IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT THIS LAST WEEK WHEN I WAS LOCKED OUT OF MY EMAIL FOR THREE DAYS, BECAUSE WE COULDN'T, UM, GET PAST THAT PATCH.
SO, UM, I AM COMPLETELY 100% IN FAVOR OF FUNDING THAT MIGRATION AND, AND GETTING THOSE SECURITY UPGRADES AS WELL AS THE, UM, THE ABILITY TO COLLABORATE AND BE MORE PRODUCTIVE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? NOT REALLY.
I MEAN, MY COMMENTS WERE TOO AND, AND, UH, COUNCILMAN SHAW SORT OF HEADED IT'S PEOPLE IN EFFICIENCIES BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE FOR THE PEOPLE, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WORKING AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.
AND THAT'S FOR THAT HE COMES IN AND, UM, BECAUSE WE CAN'T KEEP RUNNING EVERYBODY RAGGED, WE'VE GOTTA BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM THE TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO WORK EFFICIENTLY AND WITHOUT ALL THE REDOS.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR US TO MAKE DECISIONS ON THIS STUFF RIGHT NOW, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY.
SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO NEED TO SUMMARIZE WHERE WE'RE AT.
THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO ASK FOR IS THAT AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THOSE THINGS, SO WE CAN SUMMARIZE WHERE WE'RE AT, GIVE MR. POWERS ADVICE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ACCOUNT FOR THOSE THINGS AND MAKE A DECISION FOR THE CITY I'M IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING ART OR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.
AND ALSO MY, ONE OF MY BIGGEST THINGS WAS, UM, UH, IT WAS INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE OF PEOPLE AND INFRASTRUCTURE OF OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR CIP PROJECTS AS WELL, TOO.
SO AS MANY AS WE CAN FIT IN THE BUILDING, I GUESS, BUT THAT'S WHY THAT NOVEMBER FACILITIES PLAN IS GOING TO BE A MAYOR.
DO YOU MIND IF I GO BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER SHARLA'S COMMENT AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.
I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE YOU MORE, RIGHT.
AND I, AND THIS IS MY FAULT FOR, FOR GLOSSING OVER THE RED, BECAUSE YOU HAD MENTIONED THESE STREET ON THIS LIST, EVEN THOUGH IT'S RECOMMENDED RED MEANS THAT THE FUNDING WOULD COME FROM A FUTURE DEBT ISSUANCE.
UM, THE SAN GABRIEL RIVER TRAIL AND THIN GABRIEL PARK WAS I BOND A GEO BOND PROJECT APPROVED BY THE VOTERS IN 2016.
THOSE BONDS ARE APPROVED, BUT NOT, WE HAVEN'T SOLD THEM.
SO, UM, UH, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT PROJECT.
I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM THE FINANCE STANDPOINT, IF ONCE THE COUNCIL GIVES THE GO-AHEAD TO, FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT GETS STARTED ON THE DESIGN, THAT WE WOULD NOT IMMEDIATELY ISSUE THE DEBT.
UH, WE HAVE ENOUGH, UH, RESERVES TO CASHFLOW THE DESIGN AND THE STUDIES TO REALLY NAIL DOWN THE, THE PLAN BEFORE WE INCUR THE DEBT.
AND WITH, UM, WHEN WE DO ISSUE THE DEBT, WE'RE ALLOWED TO PAY OURSELVES BACK.
SO, UM, BUT THE ULTIMATE SOURCE WOULD BE THE FINAL PHASE OF THE PARK GEO BONDS.
THESE OTHER THREE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE, UH, HERO WAY EAST, UM, WILLIAMSON COUNTY PROJECT.
WHAT, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE, UM, UH, CIP, UH, STAFF IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO ISSUE THAT DEBT FIRST, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE AT AN AGREED UPON INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY.
AND THAT'S THE 13.9 WAS THE CITY'S NUMBER THAT WE PUT INTO THE APPLICATION TO THE COUNTY.
THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CIP GROUP IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO ISSUE THAT DEBT ALSO ADD THESE OTHER THREE PROJECTS TO IT.
THERE'S REALLY NO DECISION TONIGHT.
THAT'S BINDING BECAUSE WE WERE NOT READY TO ISSUE THAT 13.9.
UM, BUT SO COUNCILMAN SHAW, IF, IF THE IDEA IS TO TAKE MONEY FROM EAST STREET TO PAY FOR THE BAGHDAD AND SUNNY SIGNAL, UH, THE MONEY IS NOT THERE YET.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE, YOU WOULD CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN, WHEN THIS CAME UP, LET ME BE CRYSTAL CLEAR.
I HATE BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR WHERE THE MONEY WAS.
I THINK THEY'RE BOTH HORRIBLE, BUT WHEN I WAS GOING TO HAPPEN,
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STOP, LIKE, OKAY.CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL ACCIDENTS THERE, SO, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU ON EIGHTH STREET COUNCIL MEMBERSHIP.
I KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT THE, THIS IS NOT YOUR THING, BUT THE SUNNY IN BAGHDAD, IT SAYS ENGINEERING THAT THAT'S NOT CORRECT.
IS IT? OH, THAT'S THE DEPARTMENT.
UM, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE SENIOR CENTER, IT WAS LISTED AS, UH, FISCAL YEAR 23.
SO IF WE DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING SOONER THAN THAT, DO WE NEED TO REVISE US OR IT'S NOT NECESSARY? UH, IF, IF YOU KNEW TONIGHT WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO, YOU COULD, BUT, UH, THERE'S ALWAYS A TIME TO AMEND THE BUDGET THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
SO, UM, AND THOSE ARE BOND FUNDS, THE SENIOR CENTER, THOSE THAT ANY JOB WHAT'S WITH COUNCIL'S BUDGET.
WELL, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO SELL THE BUTTONS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY THEM ON SENIOR CENTER.
SENIOR CITIZENS CENTER BONDS HAVE BEEN SOLD.
SO THE CASH IS IN THE, IN FOR 4.185.
I KNOW I'M IN THE BIG CHAIR AND I'M SUPPOSED TO KNOW ALL THE THINGS, BUT MOTION NUMBER ONE IS TO INCLUDE EXHIBIT A AS REVISED AND OR EXHIBIT B AS REVISED.
AND I DON'T ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.
UH, EXHIBIT A IS THE, IS THE CIP LIST, RIGHT? I SEE THE EXHIBITS, BUT I'M NOT SURE THE EITHER OR, AND IF THE REVISIONS ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE MAKING RIGHT NOW OR, UH, THE REVISIONS ARE WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING NOW.
SO, UM, BUT YOU WOULD, YOU CAN APPROVE BOTH EXHIBIT A AND REVISE IT, OR YOU CAN, UH, THAT IS JUST THE CIP SECTION.
EXHIBIT B IS, UH, THINGS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WHETHER THEY'RE ONE-TIME PROJECTS LIKE, LIKE THIS LIST UP HERE OR THE, UM, ADDITIONAL POSITIONS THAT DID NOT GET, UM, MAKE THE CUT.
SO THIS, THIS LIST AND THIS LIST IS EXHIBIT B.
SO EXHIBIT A IS A LITTLE SIMPLER, HOPEFULLY THAT IT'S, IT'S THE CIP THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY, UH, BY THE CIP GROUP AT YOUR LAST WORKSHOP AND IN THE ONLY ANYTHING BEING DISCUSSED ON THAT AT ANY TYPE OF REVISION I'VE HEARD IS THAT EAST STREET THAT'S ON THE, THAT ON EXHIBIT, CORRECT? YES.
AND, UH, SINCE THOSE BONDS HAVE NOT BEEN SOLD, WE COULD JUST WAIT FOR THAT, TO BE THAT WHOLE PACKAGE, TO BE AN AMENDMENT LATER, THAT LIGHT AT CITY OF BAGHDAD WAS 500,000, $50,000.
I'LL ASK DAN IF YOU'RE FREE OR YOU'RE BEHIND ME, I'M GOING TO NEED, I NEED A REAR VIEW MIRROR.
AND HE ROAD IS GOING TO BE $2 MILLION AND HE CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE OF DUG UP IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.
UM, SO YEAH, IT CAME BACK, BUT WE WERE GOING TO DO A DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.
THAT'S WHAT IT CAME BACK AS KIND OF LIKE THE SENIOR CENTER.
UM, SO, UH, YEAH, ONE BID AND, UM, THAT WAS A REBID.
AND SO, UM, SO ANYWAY, THAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE EVALUATED, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE ONE BIG THAT CAME BACK AT, CAME BACK AT.
SO DO WE KNOW WHY WE ONLY GOT ONE BIT ON THAT? UM, I MEAN, SOMETIMES IT'S A SIDE.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND PEOPLE ARE MAKING MONEY BUILDING HOUSES AND PROBABLY TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE NOT A HOT, HOT ITEM.
SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS FOR ME PERSONALLY, IS TO MAYBE WORK WITH THE STAFF AND WE FIGURE OUT MAYBE WHERE WE NEED OTHER ONES AND MAYBE BUNDLE THEM SO WE CAN GET MAYBE THREE OR FOUR AND THEN GET ECONOMY OF SCALE, MAYBE GET A LARGER CONTRACTOR.
WHO'S SAYS, HEY, THAT'S, THAT'S A REAL PROJECT.
AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GO FOR IT.
WELL, DAN, I THINK WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK.
WE HAD MET WITH PD BRIEFLY TOO, IF WE CAN PULL TOGETHER THE HIGHEST PRIORITY HALF DOZEN OR SO, AND THEN BRING THAT BACK TO Y'ALL COMBINATION OF TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT, SAFETY, ALL THE ABOVE, AND THEN IF WE CAN REBUILD IT THAT WAY OR EVEN HAVE OPTIONS OR ALTERNATIVES IN THERE THAT WOULD HELP TO SAY THE LEAST.
AND, AND, UM, AND, UM, UH, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT DOING ALRIGHT, I PADS
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POSSESSED.UM, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR, UM, UH, EVEN ACCORDING TO THE TRAFFIC MASTER PLAN, UM, DOING A CORRIDOR STUDY, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH LIKE RONALD REAGAN, UH, TO MAKE SURE THE TRAFFIC LIKE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS STILL REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF ACCIDENTS, FATALITY OTHER THINGS, BUT IN GENERAL, THAT CORRIDOR AND A COUPLE OTHER ONES, UM, WE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHOLEHEARTEDLY AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, MAYBE WE BRING BACK INSTEAD OF ONE TRAFFIC LIGHT WHEN WE BRING BACK SEVERAL AND TRY TO BUNDLE THEM TOGETHER SO WE CAN GET MORE THAN ONE PERSON BIDDING ON IT AND MAYBE A LARGER COMPANY TO SAY, HEY, I THINK AGAIN, THAT'S OUR WORTH OUR, WHILE THEY'RE COMING AND DO IT GREAT.
UM, AND MAYBE WE CAN PARTNER WITH CAMPO ON THAT.
THEY'RE DOING A CORRIDOR STUDY FROM SOMEWHERE DOWN IN AUSTIN ON PARMER UP TO, UH, 2243 ON THAT REAGAN.
AND I'M TRYING TO PERSUADE THEM TO GO UP TO 29 SO THAT WE COVER MORE OF THAT, THAT AREA ON REAGAN.
UM, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY PLANNING ON PAYING FOR A LOT OF THAT STUDY.
SO MAYBE WE CAN PIGGYBACK ON THEM A LITTLE, WELL, IF NOTHING ELSE, WE CAN SEE WHERE THE LINES OF DEMARCATION ARE AND ONCE THEY DO THEIR STUDY, THEN WHEN WE DO OURS, WE CAN BORROW THEIR STUDY AND, AND USE IT AS PART OF THE INFORMATION FOR THE CITY STUDY.
JUST A QUESTION ON RAIDER WAY, SORRY, MR. GREENSBORO.
I MEAN, WHAT'S THAT, IS THAT JUST REDOING THAT WHOLE ROAD IN FRONT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL? YEAH, MY UNDERSTANDING IT IS.
I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A IMPORTANT ISSUE.
SO WOULD THAT CONSTRUCTION BE DONE KIND OF WHEN SCHOOL'S NOT IN SESSION? UH, SO YOU TRY TO WORK CONSTRUCTION WHEN, WHEN YOU CAN, BUT USUALLY, UM, ON A PROJECT OF THAT SCALE IT'S MULTIPLE YEARS.
AND SO, UM, CORPUS WAS A FUNNY EXAMPLE WHERE WE HAD ONE IN FRONT OF RAY HIGH SCHOOL FOR A YEAR AND THAT IS IT.
SO WE WERE IN FRONT OF THAT HIGH SCHOOL FOR ANN IS STILL IN FRONT OF THAT HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND YOU JUST TRY TO DO THE BEST TRAFFIC PLAN YOU CAN, BUT AT THE, THE, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF LEARNED WITH CONSTRUCTION, YOU HEAR GOING THROUGH CONSTRUCTION AND AS SOON AS YOU'RE DONE AND IT TURNS OUT GREAT, THEN EVERYBODY'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, AWESOME.
AND THEY FORGET ALL ABOUT THE 50 EMAILS, YOU KNOW, AND SO FORTH.
SO I ALWAYS GOT TO REMEMBER THE END GAME, THE END GAME IS TO GET IT DONE AND THEN EVERYBODY'S HAPPY.
WELL, THAT'S ALWAYS TRUE, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL CERTAINLY WORK THE, UH, WITH THE SCHOOL AND COME UP WITH THE TRAFFIC PLAN THAT WOULD BEST SUIT GETTING PARENTS IN AND OUT AND SCHOOL BUSES AND STUFF.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE EMOTION OR MORE DISCUSSION? I LIKE, JUST TO RECAP WHAT I, WHAT I THINK I'VE HEARD, UH, IN TERMS OF, UM, ON THE EXHIBIT B ONE-TIME LIST.
SO I'VE HEARD, UH, A COUPLE OF YOU, UH, IN FAVOR OF THE OFFICE 365, UH, THE CODE UPDATES, AND I'M NOT SURE ON THE SONNY AND BAGHDAD AND THEN BRYSON YES.
SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THE PRICE AND ONE THIRD, THE THIRD PARTY REVIEW PROCESS.
WHAT'S THAT? YEAH, I WAS JUST, UM, MAYBE THEY NEED, MAYBE THEY NEED A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND ON WHAT THAT WOULD BE THE THIRD PARTY.
UM, FOR, SO ACTUALLY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT EVEN REALLY EARLY ON AFTER I ARRIVED.
UH, BUT THEN WE GOT INTO COVID AND EVERYTHING AND NOT KNOWING WHERE EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO GO, BUT THAT WOULD BE BRINGING IN A THIRD-PARTY ENTITY, A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FIRM TO REVIEW OUR ARE KIND OF CRADLE TO GRAVE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND PERMITTING PROCESS AND PUT US UP AGAINST ANY OTHER FAST GROWTH PEERS AND OTHER CITIES.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE'RE MISSING IN THERE THAT WE CAN DO BETTER.
SO THAT WOULD BE REALLY KIND OF REFINING THIS DOWN TO A, UH, FINELY TUNED ENGINE AT THIS POINT.
WELL OILED, UH, WITH THE TECHNOLOGY, WITH THE REORGANIZATION, WITH THE THREE DIRECTORATES AND THE ALSO THE CHIEF OF STAFF THAT'S, THAT'S PROPOSED IN THE, AND THE BUDGET, BUT SPECIFICALLY THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD PULL IN PLANNING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUILDING, AND ALSO AT HOW ENGINEERING ALSO THE NEXUS BACK TO THAT SIDE.
SO IT, WE, WE DO THINK, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT DISCOVER, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES BRING SOMEONE ELSE IN
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THAT REALLY MIGHT PULL OUT, MIGHT BE 50,000 WELL SPENT TO SAVE US SOME OF THE HEADACHES THAT WE MIGHT BE IN A STEP IN OUR, ON, I THINK THOSE ARE CRUCIAL AND ALMOST ONE LINE ITEM TOGETHER.I THINK THOSE ARE THAT'S CRUCIAL AND ALMOST THE, THE CODE UPDATES IN THE THIRD PARTY IS ALMOST ONE LINE.
WELL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT, BIT DIFFERENT AND ROBIN CAN SPEAK TO THE CODE UPDATES, BUT WELL, I'M SAYING BOTH NOT ONE OR CORRECT THOSE, THOSE ARE BOTH CRITICAL.
WHAT I WAS SAYING IS I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THE BRYCE AND FARMSTEAD ONE, LIKE WHAT WE GAIN OUT OF THAT.
WHAT WOULD BE THE BENEFIT? WELL, I THINK THAT WAS, I THINK, UH, CATHERINE, HE, YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY, UH, AT THE, I THINK AT THE END OF THE LAST MEETING HAD BROUGHT THAT UP.
UM, WE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR ABOUT AN HOUR.
AND I THINK THAT THE, I THINK THAT THE, UH, ONE ISSUE IS WE'RE WAITING ON THE PRESERVATION PLAN TOO.
SO AT SOME POINT IT MAY BE A LARGER NUMBER TO COMPLETE BRYSON FARMSTEAD.
WE'D COME BACK TO YOU ALL FOR AN AMENDMENT.
UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER BILLION DOLLARS, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY THE MILLION DOLLARS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A GRANT AND THAT WAS, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
THAT WAS THE PIECE THAT WAS SPENT ON SIDEWALKS BACK IN.
AND ROBERT, ROBERT SAYS I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO USE MISAPPROPRIATION OF FUNDS, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT REALLY IT, BUT OKAY.
SO WHAT I SEE THOUGH IS OFFICE 365 CODE UPDATES, UM, PROCESS REVIEW.
THOSE ARE ALL IMMEDIATE BENEFITS TO THE CITY.
AND I DON'T SEE THE BRYSON FARM SET ONE AS AN IMMEDIATE BENEFIT TO CLEAN UP A MISTAKE OR SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED TO BEGIN WITH.
THE BAGHDAD AT SUNNY TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
UM, BUT I WANT TO SEE THAT, UH, COME BACK AFTER IT'S REBID HAS THAT BEEN CLEAR AS MUD? IT WILL BE OKAY.
WHEN THERE'S AN EMOTION AND A SECOND AND A VOTE, AND THEN SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A STAB AT LIKE LISTING OFF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THEN HOW IN CONJUNCTION WITH WHAT ON EXHIBIT A AS WELL TOO, IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY.
SO A QUESTION ABOUT THE BRYCE INFORMS DEAD.
SO IF WE'RE WRITING THE WRONG, THEN, IS THERE A WAY TO, OR WHEREVER THAT MONEY SHOULD HAVE COME FROM TO MAKE IT AS ZERO SUM? SO THERE WE'RE REALLY NOT ADDING TO THE BUDGET AND WE CAN USE THIS OVERAGE FOR SOMETHING ELSE IF IT'S SUPPOSED TO.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I DON'T KNOW THE TOTAL HISTORY HERE, BUT JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
I THINK THE, UH, THE REASON THAT 10 YEARS AGO, 12 YEARS AGO, IT WAS EVEN LOOKED AT WAS BECAUSE THE CITY DID NOT HAVE ANY RESERVES.
THERE WAS NO PLACE TO GO, UH, TO COME UP WITH THE MATCH OF THE TECH STOCK GRANT, THE $4 MILLION TECH STOCK GRANT.
SO EVERY, UM, EVERY PLATE WAS TURNED OVER AND, UH, BUT THINGS ARE DIFFERENT NOW.
AND AGAIN, WHAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IN OUR PLANNING ESTIMATES, UH, SIX WEEKS AGO WAS THIS $1.2 MILLION SURPLUS.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY WOULD HAVE COME FROM IN 2011 HAD, HAD IT BEEN THERE.
SO, UH, IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, JUST TAKE THAT OUT OF RESERVES AND THAT 1.2 IS GOING TO BE HARDER THAN 1.2 YOU'RE WAY CONSERVATIVE.
THAT'S ON TOP OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PROJECTED.
WE WE'VE ALREADY, UM, PROJECTED, UM, CLOSE TO 5 MILLION SURPLUS.
SO THAT'S 1.2 ON TOP OF THE FIVE THAT'S ALREADY IN THE, OKAY.
UH, DON'T WANT TO BE WRONG THOUGH.
UM, SO ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THIS LIST COULD COME OUT AT $1.2 MILLION AND NO IMPACT ON THE TAX RATE.
UM, OR YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DO A COMBINATION.
YOU COULD DO, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE AT $2.1 MILLION IN USE 1.2 FROM RESERVES.
AND THEN THE DELTA IS, YOU KNOW, $900,000 AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME WITH A PENNY AND A HALF.
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BEAR CAT ON THERE ARE YOU INCLUDED.SO I'M JUST, THAT'S JUST ON THE LIST.
CAUSE I TALKED TO GREG AND GREG'S LIKE THAT HE GETS IT, HE GOES, THAT'S A MAJOR WALLET AND THAT HE DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE THAT AT THIS TIME.
COULD I ASK HIM? SO I THINK THOUGH, IF THEY GET THE BEAR CAT, THEN AREN'T THEY SELLING THE ONE THAT THEY HAVE NOW, THEY DON'T OWN IT.
THE SURPLUS MRF, BECAUSE THOSE M APPS ARE REALLY DESIGNED FOR A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT, MORE MILITARIZED ENVIRONMENT, AS JASON CAN SPEAK TO THE BEAR, CAT IS A LOWER PROFILE, NOT QUITE AS AGGRESSIVE LOOKING VEHICLE AND, AND A LOT EASIER TO MAINTAIN WITH THE PARK.
THESE ARE PARKED PARALLEL PARKING MAYBE.
AND I WOULD JUST THINK IF, YOU KNOW, UNDER WORST CASE SCENARIO, IF YOU DID HAVE TO USE IT IN A DENSER AREA OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S TAKE NORTHLINE OR SOMETHING.
IF IT HAD TO BE DEPLOYED, IT'D BE A LOT EASIER TO USE ON THOSE TIGHT STREETS.
IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE A TILLER TRUCK, BUT LIKE, SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T OWN THE MRI.
IT WOULD GO, IT WOULD GO BACK TO DOD.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET ON EXHIBIT A APPROVE EVERYTHING THERE EXCEPT THE EAST STREET.
AND THEN, UM, EVERYTHING ON AN EXHIBIT B, WE WILL ONLY TAKE APPROVAL FOR THE PRICING, THE OFFICE 360 AND THE CODE UPDATES.
HOW DO YOU HEAR YOU? THIRD PARTY? IS IT ON THERE? I MISSED THAT ONE.
AND THE THIRD PARTY DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, DID I MISS? YEAH.
THAT, AND WOULD YOU INCLUDE IN YOUR MOTION THAT, THAT EITHER THAT COME OUT OF THE ADDITIONAL RESERVES OR, UM, UH, UH, PROPERTY TAX, I THINK THE ADDITIONAL RESERVES OR SO ADDITIONAL RESERVES OR THE TAX RATE IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF RESERVES EITHER WAY.
I I'M COMFORTABLE WITH ALL OF IT.
IT'S JUST THAT WHEN THE NEXT ITEM COMES UP, THE TAX RATE IS A NUMBER, NOT A RANGE.
SO YEAH, WHENEVER WE SAY RESERVES THOUGH, I SWEAR I START GETTING AN ULCER.
UM, BUT IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
AND WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT I GET SHOW WE'LL DO ANOTHER SURVEY FOR THE LIGHTS SO WE CAN GET ALL OF THEM PUT TOGETHER FOR A LARGER PROJECT SO WE CAN HAVE MORE PEOPLE BID THE PROJECT.
WE'VE GOT A MOTION ON A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
SO THERE'S A FEW MORE EMOTIONS.
TWO MORE SO, AND THIS IS STATE LAW.
THIS IS NOT ANYTHING THAT CITY STAFF COMES UP WITH, BUT STATE LAW REQUIRES A TWO-STEP.
SO, UM, THE FIRST MOTION IS TO MOVE TO RATIFY THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE REFLECTED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
AND THEN IF THAT PASSES, THEN YOU CAN MOVE TO APPROVE THE BUDGET.
SO, UH, SINCE THE TAX RATE IN THE BUDGET IS HIGHER THAN THE WHAT'S CALLED THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, THAT'S WHERE THE TAX AND TAX INCREASES COMING FROM.
SO THE STATE MAKES THE GOVERNING BODY SWEAR THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO, AND THAT'S JUST A SYMPTOM OF OUR GROWTH, RIGHT? UH, YES.
SO IT IS A DECREASE, BUT WE HAVE TO CALL IT AN INCREASE, RIGHT? IT'S A DECREASED, A PROPERTY OWNERS AND AN INCREASE TO US.
Y'ALL MOVED TO RATIFY THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE REFLECTED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FYI 20, 22, NO SECOND MOTION.
SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE
[31. Conduct a Public Hearing on levying ad valorem taxes for the use and support of the municipal government of the City of Leander, Texas, for the Fiscal Year 2022; providing for and apportioning each levy for specific purposes; and providing when taxes shall become due and when the same shall become delinquent if not paid. Discuss and possible action on the First Reading of an Ordinance levying ad valorem taxes for the use and support of the municipal government of the City of Leander, Texas, for the Fiscal Year 2022 as described above.]
ITEM 31 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON LEVITY LEVYING AD VALOREM TAXES FOR THE USE AND SUPPORT OF THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY OF LEANDER, TEXAS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2022, PROVIDING FOR AND APPORTIONING EACH LEVEE FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSES AND PROVIDING WHEN TAXES SHALL BECOME DUE.AND WHEN THE SAME SHALL BECOME DELINQUENT, IF NOT PAID, YOU'RE STILL HERE.
UH, THIS NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN
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THE NEWSPAPER AS REQUIRED, AS WELL AS, UH, PUT ON, ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE WEBSITE PRIOR TO THE MEETING, UH, IT'S ALL STATE REQUIRED LANGUAGE DID.UH, THE PROPOSED RATE IS THE RATE THAT THE COUNCIL DISCUSSED ON AUGUST 5TH.
AND THAT WAS THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE OF 49.17 CENTS.
UM, BASED ON YOUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION AND VOTE ON THE BUDGET, THE TAX RATE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE MANAGER'S PROPOSED, UM, TAX RATE OF 47.9, UM, 47 9 6 9 9 CENTS.
AND THIS IS JUST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WAS PUT IN THE NEWSPAPER SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE, UH, WHAT THOSE DIFFERENT RATES, IF THEY WERE TO HAVE BEEN APPROVED, WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE NOTICE WAS BASED ON THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE.
SO WHAT, UM, THIS IS, UM, THE AVERAGE TAX IS NOT GOING TO BE $25.
YOU KNOW, MORE, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE LIKE A SIX TO $7 INCREASE OFF OF LAST YEAR.
SO WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UM, AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.
WE'LL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION ON THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE, LOVING AD VALOREM TAXES FOR THE USE AND SUPPORT OF THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT AND THE CITY OF LEANDRA, TEXAS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 AS DESCRIBED COUNSEL.
SO THIS WOULD BE THE, THIS WOULD BE THE TAX RATE THAT THE BUDGET THAT YOU JUST ADOPTED, IT WOULD FUND.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT PROBABLY IN A LANGUAGE OR SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET TANK RATED 47 CENTS.
SECOND, MS. CRABTREE IS THAT I'M LOOKING AT HER.
I'M TRYING TO FIND MY ZEBRA 4 7, 9, 6, 9, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A TRICKER THEIR TAX RATE, THE PERCENT, THE PERCENTAGE 2.1.
ARE WE GOOD? ARE WE LEGAL RIGHT NOW? AS SOON AS MS. CRABTREE GIVES ME THE, OKAY.
WHAT HE SAID, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
I JUST WANT TO TAKE A SECOND TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF, MR. POWERS.
AND SO YOU MANAGER MS. CRABTREE FOR KEEPING ALL THAT STRAIGHT.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN A PHENOMENAL UNDERTAKING AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND THOUGHTFULNESS IN PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER FOR US.
[32. Discuss and consider action on a Resolution authorizing the Brushy Creek Regional Utility Authority, Inc. to execute a Financing Agreement with the Texas Water Development Board relating to the sale of $40,000,000.00 Brushy Creek Regional Utility Authority, Inc., City of Leander, Texas Contract Revenue Bonds, Proposed Series 2021 (Brushy Creek Regional Water Treatment and Distribution Project).]
ITEM NUMBER 32 DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE BRUSHY CREEK REGIONAL UTILITY AUTHORITY INCORPORATED TO EXECUTE A FINANCING AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD RELATING TO THE SALE OF 41 TO $33 BILLION MILLION.$40 MILLION BRUSHY CREEK, REGIONAL UTILITY AUTHORITY, INC.
CITY OF LEANDER, TEXAS CONTRACT REVENUE BONDS PROPOSED SERIES 2021 BRUSHY CREEK REGIONAL WATER TREATMENT AND DISTRIBUTION PROJECT DIRECTOR POWERS.
THIS IS THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS TOWARDS THE EVENTUAL CLOSING WITH THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD ON THE FINANCING FOR THE, UM, DEEP WATER INTAKE, UH, PLANT EXPANSION, UH, THERE'LL BE ANOTHER SET OF DOCUMENTS AT THE END OF OCTOBER
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TO APPROVE PENDING ASSUMING THAT THIS, UM, ACTION HAPPENS THAT WENT TO THE BOARD LAST, LAST A WEEK.AND, UH, THE OTHER CITIES, UM, OR CEDAR PARK IS ALSO, UM, UM, INCLUDING THE SIMILAR LANGUAGE.
THE $40 MILLION IS ONLY THE CITY OF LEE ANDERS, UH, PORTION, BUT THAT IS ONLY ONE THIRD OF OUR ULTIMATE.
UM, W UM, THE CITY OF LANDERS ESTIMATE IS 119 MILLION OVER THE FIVE TO SIX YEAR PROJECT BECAUSE OF THAT LARGE AMOUNT.
UH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE TAKE OUT THE FINANCING IN STAGES, SO WE DON'T BORROW TOO MUCH TOO SOON.
AND SO WE'RE OPTING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE, WHERE YOU CAN STAGE THE, THE FUNDING.
SO, UH, THIS WOULD GET US TO THE NEXT STAGE.
CLOSING WOULD BE IN NOVEMBER, HOPEFULLY BIDS AND CONSTRUCTION BEGIN, UH, NEXT, NEXT YEAR.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[33. Discuss and consider action on the First Reading of an Ordinance regarding Zoning Case 20-Z-033 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) and Interim SFS-2-B (Single-Family Suburban) to create the Urbana Planned Unit Development (PUD) with base zoning of NR-2-A (Neighborhood Residential) and LC-2-A (Local Commercial); Subdivision Case 20-CP-012 to adopt the Urbana Concept Plan on six (6) parcels of land approximately 18.1 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R032167, R366161, R432891, R432892, R336502, and R575954; and more commonly known as 13301 Hero Way West, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. ]
AND FINALLY, ITEM 33, DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ON THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING ZONING CASE 20 0 3 3 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR, ONE B SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL AND INTERIM SFS TO BE SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN TO CREATE THE URBANA PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD WITH BASE ZONING OFUM, THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE FOR THE URBANA PUD.
UM, THIS WAS ON THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING AND ACTION WAS POSTPONED FOR THIS REQUEST.
UM, THE APPLICANT WAS TASKED WITH, UH, RE-EVALUATING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND COMING UP WITH, UH, UPDATE, UM, THE REVISED PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES AN UPDATE OF 1.5 SPACES FOR ONE BEDROOM UNITS, TWO SPACES FOR TWO BEDROOM UNITS IN 2.5 SPACES FOR A THREE BEDROOM UNITS.
AND, UM, I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANTS ALSO HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
HI, MAYOR COUNCIL, MARK BAKER WITH SEC PLANNING.
I'M HERE THIS EVENING WITH SAC KENMAN WITH IRVANA AS WELL.
I'M GOING TO SPARE YOU A PRESENTATION BECAUSE ROBIN JUST NAILED IT.
AND SO, UM, THERE WERE THREE THINGS ACTUALLY, THOUGH, THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, JUST AS A RECOLLECTION, A PLANNING COMMISSION HAD REQUESTED THAT WE ADD A PROVISION FOR FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS CONNECTING FROM HERO WAY TO COTTONTAIL.
SO, UH, WE'VE WORKED WITH ROBIN TO REFINE THAT LANGUAGE IN THE PUD.
UH, NUMBER TWO WAS A CONCERN ABOUT, UM, THE DOG PARK AND HOW, HOW PUBLIC PUBLIC WAS.
AND SO THE WORDING ON THAT HAS BEEN REVISED TO MAKE IT A PRIVATE PRIVATELY DEVELOPED AND PRIVATELY MAINTAINED FACILITY, BUT OPEN TO THE CANARA CARNEROS RANCH RESIDENTS AND THE WESTWOOD RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS THEIR, OUR BONNA PROJECT.
UM, AND THEN THE BIG ONE, UH, WAS THE PARKING RATIOS.
AND SO, UH, ROBIN READ THOSE OFF FOR YOU.
SO THAT, THAT MAKES THE PARKING, RATHER THAN TRYING TO DO AN AVERAGE OVER THE PROJECT.
IT MAKES THE PARKING MORE CONTINGENT ON THE MIX OF UNITS.
SO IF IT'S HEAVY ON TWO BEDROOMS OR THREE BEDROOMS, IT'S GOING TO BE HEAVY ON PARKING.
RECOGNIZING THAT THOSE UNITS ARE MORE TAILORED TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, A TWO PERSON HOUSEHOLD OR YOUNG FAMILY.
THE ONE BEDROOM UNITS AT THE ONE AND A HALF IS REALLY MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THEIR ARBANA EXPERIENCE ON THEIR MODEL AND OTHER PROJECTS WITH THE, UH, MORE SINGLE OCCUPANT, ALMOST LIKE YOU'D SEE IN AN APARTMENT WHERE IT'S A YOUNG PROFESSIONAL, A TEACHER EMERGENCY WORKER, THOSE TYPES OF DEMOGRAPHICS.
AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT GETS US CLOSE.
THAT DOES CHANGE THE OVERALL RATIO.
IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE OVERALL RATIO STILL AT BUMPS IT UP, WE HAD IT AT 1.8 AND THAT BUMPS IT UP TO 1.9 AND IT ADDS ABOUT 16 SPACES OVERALL TO THE PROJECT BASED ON THE MIX THAT ZACH IS CURRENTLY PLANNING, WHICH IS AROUND THE 30% RANGE WOULD BE A ONE BEDROOM UNITS.
50% WOULD BE TWO BEDROOM UNITS, AND THE REMAINDER WOULD BE THREE BEDROOM UNITS.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT THIS EVENING.
UM, JUST WANT TO SEND KUDOS TO ROBIN FOR WORKING WITH US THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
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UM, SHE IS THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS, BY THE WAY.I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS, BUT, UH, SHE'S EVERY BIT AS TIRED AND STRESSED OUT AS I AM RIGHT NOW.
AND IN THIS MARKET THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AND EVERY TIME I CALL HER SHE'S POSITIVE AND UPBEAT AND MAKES ME FEEL BETTER.
SO, UM, WITH THAT SAID, UH, ZACH AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS WORKING ON THE, ON THE, UM, ON THE PARKING AND EVERYTHING TOO.
I THINK IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO DO IT THAT WAY.
UM, I'LL APOLOGIZE AHEAD OF TIME.
CAUSE MY, MY, MY CONCERNS ARE STILL MORE THAN JUST THOSE THINGS TOO.
SO I THINK I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BE, UH, I MIGHT BE, I'M A MINORITY HERE ON THIS ONE TOO, BUT BEING CLOSE TO THIS ONE, UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME THINGS TO DEAL WITH AS A CITY, AS FAR AS, UM, UH, AS FAR AS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE GOES AND EVERYTHING TOO.
AND THIS IS THIS, THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AT AN INFANT STAGE OF A VERY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT INPUT, UM, UH, INTERSECTION THAT I'M PERSONALLY HAVE A HARD TIME, UM, COMMITTING TO THAT MUCH RESIDENTIAL AND NOT COMMERCIAL.
I MEAN, IN A PERFECT WORLD, WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT A LAND OWNER IS GONNA DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY, BUT, UM, UM, THERE'S TWO PARCELS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER ON, ON, UH, ON, ON WHAT WE CALL PRIORITY CORRIDOR.
SO I'M JUST MAKING MY DECISION BASED ON THAT.
UM, AND ALSO YOU HAVE DONE MORE THAN, I GUESS, MOST PEOPLE AS FAR AS WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES AND EVERYBODY ELSE TOO.
SO I JUST WANT TO APPLAUD YOU ON THAT TOO.
AND WE'D PROBABLY GET AN APPROVAL TODAY TOO, BUT I JUST WANTED TO, TO MENTION THAT, THAT I REALLY THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, I'M HA I'M HUNG UP ON THAT.
AND ALSO, UM, THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO POSSIBLE WAY TO MAKE COTTONTAIL GO THROUGH ANYWAYS.
I KNOW THAT IT'S UP TO A LANDOWNER THAT WON'T CALL YOU BACK OR WHATEVER THE SITUATION IS.
AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE TOO, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY ALLEVIATED AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IN THAT AREA, UM, WITH THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES.
SO SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF CARNEROS RANCH AND PEOPLE THERE THAT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE MADE A REALLY BIG DIFFERENCE IF THAT WAS ABLE TO GO ON.
AND I KNOW IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SO STRICTLY BASED ON, ON THE COMMERCIAL STUFF THOUGH, I WISH I WISH IT'D BE DIFFERENT.
AND I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT THAT INTERSECTION COULD BE RIGHT NOW AT, AT AN INFANT STAGE OF WHAT, OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IN OUR PRACTICE COURT.
I ALSO WANT TO APPLAUD YOU ON ALL OF YOUR OUTREACH AND YOUR PATIENTS AND WORKING WITH US AND THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE, I THINK, UH, AS FAR AS THE USE FOR THIS LAND, I THINK THAT THAT BACK PORTION WHERE YOU'RE DEVELOPING RESIDENTIAL, I THINK THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE USE.
UM, WHEN YOU DO HAVE THE COMMERCIAL ON THE FRONT.
BUT THAT PORTION I AGREE WITH, BUT, UM, IT'S A PRETTY BIG PARCEL.
BUT, UM, BUT I THINK THAT WHAT YOU ALL HAVE PRESENTED TO US IS A VERY FAIR COMPROMISE, UM, AND SUPPORT COUNCIL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS.
OH, DID YOU SAY THAT LAST TIME WE TALKED? I THINK A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID, HEY, THIS IS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN.
THIS IS KIND OF ON THE EDGE OF LANDER.
AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT FOR THAT.
I, AND I LIKED THE LOOK AND FEEL OF THE URBAN.
I'LL JUST SAY, I, I, I WISH THIS WAS A DIFFERENT TIME AND A DIFFERENT PLACE, BUT, UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE TO, UM, TO A PIECE OR CONCERNS.
I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, OPPOSED PASSES FOUR TO THREE.
[34. Council Member Closing Statements.]
ITEM 34.COUNCIL MEMBER, CLOSING COMMENTS.
THIS ONE, I HAD SOMETHING AND I'VE COMPLETELY FORGOT WHAT IT WAS.
THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIAL ABOUT TODAY, BUT IT'S SEPTEMBER.
WE'LL JUST SAY GOODNIGHT EVERYBODY.
HAVE A SAFE LABOR DAY WEEKEND, EVERYONE.
I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK, BUT SEVERAL PEOPLE, UM, THE LAST FEW WEEKS HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT, UM, FOR ME AND FOR ABOUT 800,000 OTHER PEOPLE, UM, PEOPLE CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GO TO COMBAT, BUT 800,000 OF US DO UNDERSTAND.
SOME OF US WENT MULTIPLE TIMES AND THIS ONE IS WEIRD.
THIS ONE HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO PROCESS.
UM, I WOULD EXPLAIN IT LIKE, UH, IF YOU'VE SEEN THE MOVIE BRAVEHEART, THERE'S A, THERE'S A POINT WHERE WILLIAM WALLACE, MEL GIBSON IS PLAYING WILLIAM WALLACE AND THEY HAVE A BATTLE.
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AND, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF WINNING THE BATTLE AND THEY'VE GOT A PLAN.AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, ROBERT, THE BRUCE, UH, TURNS ON HIM.
AND HE ACTS AS A SPY AND THE BATTLE STARTS GOING SOUTH.
AND THEN MEL GIBSON CHASES HIM DOWN AND, UH, GRABS HIS HELMET.
WHEN THE HELMET COMES OFF, HE SEES THIS ROBERT, THE BRUCE.
AND IF YOU, IF YOU'VE SEEN THE MOVIE, YOU, MEL GIBSON NAILED THE LOOK.
WE FEEL NOT BETRAYED BY OUR COUNTRY, BUT WE FEEL BETRAYED.
WE WERE HANDED OUR, OUR, THIS, MY GENERATION WAS JUST HANDED THEIR VIETNAM.
AND, UM, I, UH, NO TEARS FOR ME.
I HAD, I HAVE A SOLID MARRIAGE.
I HAD CHURCH AT, UH, GREAT FRIENDS.
A LOT OF VETERANS DON'T RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF VETERANS ARE TAKING THEMSELVES OUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO PROCESS THIS AND THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE SUPPORT CHANNELS.
SO IF YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE, THERE ARE RESOURCES YOU CAN CONTACT THE VA.
THE VA IS UPSTAFFING THEIR CRISIS LINE.
UM, YOU HAVE VETERAN OF FOREIGN WARS, YOU HAVE AMERICAN LEGION, YOU HAD ANYBODY CALL EMAIL ME.
UM, DON'T THIS IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.
WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE COMBAT VETERANS.
WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO PROCESSES, BUT DON'T TAKE YOURSELF OUT OF THIS WORLD BECAUSE OF THIS.
WELL, WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS AND WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS TOGETHER.
SO, UM, IF YOU'RE A VET OR IF YOU KNEW A BIT THAT'S HARD AND DON'T LOOK THE OTHER WAY, THIS IS, THIS IS DIFFICULT.
AND IT'S VERY HARD TO EXPLAIN.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND LOUISIANA, AS THEY DEAL WITH THE DEVASTATION ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF KATRINA.
AND, UM, AND AS FAMILIES ARE TRYING TO PULL THINGS BACK TOGETHER, KEEP THEM IN YOUR PRAYERS.
AND THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON IN OUR WORLD RIGHT NOW.
SO WITH ALL OF THOSE THINGS TOO, I'VE ALSO BEEN ASKED TO SHARE SOMETHING AND I WANT IT TO BE ON AN, ALSO A POSITIVE NOTE.
SO ACKNOWLEDGING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HURTING IN OUR ARMED SERVICES AND AROUND THIS COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD AND ACKNOWLEDGING THE PEOPLE AND, AND, UM, IN LOUISIANA AS WELL TOO.
UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME PRETTY COOL NEWS THOUGH, LOCALLY HERE, UH, FOR OUR YOUTH.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, BASEBALL IS STARTING BACK UP AND SOCCER IS STARTING BACK UP AND I'M REALLY PROUD TO BE A PART OF A CITY.
THAT'S ALLOWING OUR KIDS TO ACTUALLY GO FORWARD AND PARTICIPATE IN THESE THINGS.
AND IT'S PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY AWESOME.
AND, UM, AND I'M ALSO, UM, I SAW AN ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY FROM OUR, FROM OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT AND, UM, COMING THIS, COMING THIS SPRING, WE'RE GOING TO FINALLY HAVE GIRLS SOFTBALL.
AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKESHIFT AS FAR AS THE FIELDS AND EVERYTHING GETTING FORWARD UNTIL THE OFFICIAL ONES ARE THERE, BUT IT'S REALLY, REALLY, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE GIRLS THAT WOULD PROBABLY LOVE TO PLAY, AND I'M JUST REALLY PROUD OF OUR CITY FOR TAKING A BIG STEP THERE TOO.
AND SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING THERE, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT STARTING THE SPRING.
I THINK YOU HAVE, UH, AGES BASICALLY 10 AND UNDER RIGHT NOW IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
SO MAKESHIFT, UH, OR A NON REAL SEASON THAT WILL PROBABLY GROW FROM THERE, BUT GLAD TO SEE LEANDER ON THE MAP, AS FAR AS GIRLS SOFTBALL GOES TOO.
I WOULD JUST SAY WITH LABOR DAY COMING UP, IT'S A CELEBRATION OF AMERICAN WORKERS.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR CITY STAFF.
I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS WORKED TIRELESSLY.
YOU PUT IN A LOT OF HOURS, YOU MAY FEEL UNDERAPPRECIATED AND OVERWORKED, BUT WE ALL APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO EVERY SINGLE DAY TO HELP OUR CITY BE EFFECTIVE AND RUN EFFICIENTLY.
AND WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU.
UM, AND I'LL START WITH THE SOMBER.
SEPTEMBER IS SUICIDE PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH.
SO, UM, JUST PIGGYBACKING ON, ON COUNCIL SHOWS, ELOQUENT REMARKS, UM, REACH OUT TO PEOPLE THAT YOU CARE ABOUT AND LOVE, AND JUST CHECKING ON PEOPLE.
YOU NEVER KNOW, UM, WHERE SOMEBODY IS AT IN THEIR LIFE.
AND SO JUST TO BE THERE FOR EACH OTHER, UM, AND THEN IN AN EFFORT TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL LEANDRA ECONOMY, ALL OF COUNCIL DINNERS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED THE LESS OVER WEEKS FROM LOCAL RESTAURANTS HERE IN LEANDER.
AND SO TONIGHT WE GIVE OUR THANKS TO CASAMIGOS, UM, FOR WONDERFUL TACOS.
AND, UH, FINALLY, UM, I ALSO WANT TO ECHO WHAT, UH, WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CERNIK BROUGHT UP TONIGHT, WHICH IS LEANDRA'S FIRST EVER GIRLS SOFTBALL TEAM WAS ANNOUNCED TODAY.
WE'RE RECRUITING AGES SIX TO 10, AND REGISTRATION BEGAN BEGINS NOVEMBER 1ST MARKET CALENDARS.
CAUSE I'M SURE THAT THOSE SPOTS ARE GOING TO FILL UP REALLY QUICK.
IF YOU DON'T GET A CHANCE TO SIGN UP OR YOU JUST WANT TO COME OUT AND SUPPORT THE GIRLS OPENING CEREMONIES ARE FEBRUARY 26.
SO WE HOPE TO SEE YOU OUT THERE.
AND WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 9 45.