Oct 14, 2021 P&amp;Z Commission

NO, YOU'RE GOOD.

SO, UM, SO WE, ALL OUR WATER DOES COME FROM, UM, UH, THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER BOARD, WHICH IN OUR CASE IS, UM, THE LAKE TRAVIS LAKE.

AND SO, UH, 24,800 PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY CONTRACT.

AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY AN ACRE OF LAND COVERED WITH A FOOT OF WATER.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT AN ACRE OF LAND WITH A FOOT OF WATER ON IT, WE HAVE 24,000 ACRES COVERED WITH A FOOT OF WATER.

WOULD YOU BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT IT AS A SMALL LAKE? SO THAT'S HOW MUCH WE GET EVERY YEAR UNDER OUR CONTRACT.

CURRENTLY, ANOTHER WAY PEOPLE LOOK AT IT BACK AND FORTH IS THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 21.4 MILLION POUNDS PER DAY.

SO PEOPLE, WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT, UM, HOW MUCH YOU GET, ESPECIALLY WATER FOLKS, THEY TALK ABOUT 800 FEET.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO THE ENGINEERS, IT'S ALWAYS A MILLION YARDS TODAY.

UM, BUT THEY'RE ONE AT THE SAME.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT HOW MUCH WE GET PER DAY OR HOW MUCH WE GET THE ENTIRE YEAR, THIS IS THREE DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT IT FOR THE CITY.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A FIELD WHERE, WHAT WE USE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, THE CITY IS USING ON AVERAGE, NOT A PEAK, BUT ON AVERAGE, ABOUT 12 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

SO YESTERDAY I THINK WE WERE AT 10.5 MILLION GALLON SPREAD AND A SUMMER IN 2020, WE HIT AS HIGH AS 18 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

MEANING THAT THE WORST RISE HOTTEST SUMMER DAY, WE WERE REACHING THAT.

NOW, REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT RIGHT NOW, WE ONLY HAVE A CAPACITY OF 25.

SO THE NEXT SUMMER AS GROWTH THERAPY CONTINUES IS IT'S GOING TO START GETTING TO THAT, THAT IT WAS GETTING SMALLER

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AND SMALLER.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE BROTHER-IN-LAW OR THE FUTURE, UM, UH, LCRA AND HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH THEM.

UH, THIS LIGHT INDICATES 30,000 ACRE FEET WOULD BE NEEDED, UM, TO APPLY A POPULATION.

YOU HAVE THAT AMOUNT THAT'S THERE DURING THE 25.

UM, UH, IT WASN'T ON 200 AND TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND, UH, PERSONS, UH, WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT THAT MANY MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

REMEMBER THAT'S AVERAGE DAY, WE'RE REALLY ASKING FOR, UM, 34,000 ACRE FEE.

SO WHEN WE RENEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT, WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR 34,000 ACRE FEET IN THAT RANGE OR 36.

SO LCRA CUSTOMERS.

SO THESE ARE ALL THE BREAKDOWN OF ALL THE CUSTOMERS, UM, THAT THEY HAVE, AND JUST DOESN'T INCLUDE RUN OF THE RIVER RIGHTS.

LIKE CORPUS CHRISTI HAS A 35,000 ACRE FEET OF RUN OF THE RIVER REITS.

UM, THEY BOUGHT THOSE BACK IN 1992.

AND SO THEY HAVE THE SECOND OLDEST, ONE OF THE RIVER RIGHTS.

UM, SO THEY, THEY GET THAT WATER FREE CAUSE THEY ACTUALLY OWN, IT THEY'LL OWN THE RIGHTS TO THAT RIVER.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS IN HERE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART YOU CAN SEE THAT LEANDER IS RIGHT HERE.

WE ARE THE THIRD LARGEST CUSTOMER, UM, FOR LCRA.

SO, UH, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE RIVER AUTHORITY, UM, THEY PROVIDE, THESE ARE THE LARGER ONES.

THEY PROBABLY PROVIDE ABOUT 80 OTHER CUSTOMERS.

UM, SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING WITH LCRA, UH, THEY HAVE ALSO A LIMITED KIND OF RESOURCE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING WITH THEM TO KIND OF GET IN THE LINE, UM, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, GETTING THE, OUR CONTRACT UPDATED.

HOW LONG DOES OUR CONTRACT, THE CONTRACT THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW AND THE ONE I THINK IT, UH, LET'S AND 2032 OR 36 IT'S IN THAT I THINK IT'S IN THAT RANGE.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT GROUNDWATER.

UM, SO IT'S A LITTLE WAYS OUT THERE.

THE DILEMMA IS THAT REMEMBER, UM, AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT AB YOU THINK ABOUT IT, ONE-TO-ONE, ACRE-FEET 2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

WE NEED 62 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

SO AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO INCREASE THE LCRA CONTRACT TO MATCH OUR ULTIMATE BUILD-OUT WE'LL DO IT IN PHASES.

UM, CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BUY MORE WATER THAN YOU NEED.

YOU'RE JUST PAYING FOR THE RESERVE, WHICH WE DO HAVE TO DO.

SO THE WATER THAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE 24,000 ACRE FEET, WE'RE NOT USING THEM OUT.

UM, WE DO PAY FOR, UM, A RESERVE OF WATER, BUT IT SURE IS NICE TO HAVE IT.

UM, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT WE CAN GET UP TO.

LIKE IF YOU'RE SAYING 24,000 IS WHAT WE'RE BUYING NOW, RIGHT.

AND THERE'S THIS RESERVE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP PAYING FOR.

SO THAT WE STILL AS PART OF THE 24,008 PART OF THE 20, 24 IS THE MAX RIGHT NOW.

AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REQUESTING TO GET THAT HIGHER.

THE LAST TIME I REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT THIS, I FEEL LIKE WE WERE TOLD SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, OH, WE GOT THE LAST WATER RIGHTS TO LIKE TRAVIS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE WATER THERE TO BE SOLD.

THEY HAVE, UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

CAUSE WE JUST GOT BRIEFED ON THAT AND I CAN CERTAINLY SEND YOU THE, THE BRIEF, IT WAS REALLY GOOD.

UM, THEY HAVE 45,000 ACRE FEET THAT THEIR BOARD IS IN CHARGE OF.

UM, AND THEY CAN ADJUST THAT TO SELL OFF, BUT THAT'S THEIR BUFFER.

UH, THEY ARE RIGHT NOW AND I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF IT.

UM, SOMETHING RESERVOIR EDWARD RESERVOIR, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO CREATE ANOTHER 90,000 ACRE FEET.

UM, THEY'RE DOING OTHER THINGS.

UM, THEY'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLE DIESEL, UH, DISORGANIZATION, UM, VIA BRACKISH, GROUNDWATER OF POSSIBLE COURSE CONSERVATION.

UM, THEY'RE SEEING REDUCTIONS IN AND USAGE, UH, OURSELVES.

WE NEED TO REALLY WORK ON THAT AS FAR AS IRRIGATION.

UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN A SLIDE LATER ON ABOUT BETWEEN THE WINTER AND SUMMER AND, AND THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT'S THAT'S USED BETWEEN THOSE TIMES, BUT THERE IS, THERE IS THEY ARE WORKING TO PROVIDE BECAUSE THEY KNOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA NEED THE WATER.

SO THEY ARE WORKING TO PROVIDE MORE WATER.

ONE QUESTION ON THAT TOO.

UM, THIS IS HOW MUCH WE'RE RESERVING.

UH, OF COURSE ZILLOW, HOW MUCH WE HAVE UNDER CONTRACT, RIGHT? DO WE HAVE UNDER CONTRACT, BUT IF WE HAVE REALLY DRY SUMMERS, TWO OR THREE YEARS IN A ROW, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IF LAKE TRAVIS GOES DOWN, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE GUARANTEED 24.

SO I'M GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION AND HERE SHORTLY AND YOU'RE AND YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE THE ANSWER.

BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT REUSE OF OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TO, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE AN, A DISK GOT APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON TUESDAY TO DESIGN A FILLING STATION WHERE TRUCKS CAN COME IN AND FILL THEIR TRUCKS UP FOR, UH, IRRIGATION AND CONSTRUCTION.

I GOT, I HAVE QUICK QUESTION.

ARE THEY LOOKING AT WHAT IT IS IT POTABLE, REUSE, YOU KNOW, THE AFFLUENT FROM THE WASTE TREATMENT PLANTS AND PUMPING IT BACK INTO THE LAKES AFTER IT'S TREATED? UH, NO, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THAT,

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AND THEN WE'RE ALSO DESIGNING A, UM, REUSE WATER LINE TO GO OUT TO NORTH LINE BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING A, UH, IRRIGATION SYSTEM, THAT'S GOING TO USE REUSE WATER.

AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TALK WITH, UM, UM, AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND SOME OTHERS TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO CONVERT THEIR IRRIGATION FROM PORTABLE TO REUSE WATER, WHICH WOULD BE, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT.

SO WE DO HAVE THOSE, UH, CONCEPTS RIGHT NOW UNDERWAY.

SO THE LARGER ENTITY, ISN'T LOOKING AT IT FROM ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES AROUND TO CONSIDER THAT AS A POSSIBILITY.

WELL, UH, PROBABLY NOT CAUSE THEY'RE SMALL.

THE ONLY ONE THAT MIGHT AND WHERE WE OWN PART OF THAT IS THE REGIONAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH IS B A BCR WWS, WHICH IS IN ROCKPORT, ROCKPORT RUNS THAT, UM, THEY'RE ACTUALLY EXPANDING AT 10 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

AND WE, WE ARE GOING TO GET LIKE 4.6 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF THAT TREATMENT CAPACITY ON TOP OF OUR CURRENT PLANT CAPACITY RIGHT NOW.

NOW THAT PLAN WILL BE LARGE ENOUGH WHERE THEY COULD PROBABLY BE FACILITATE DOING SOMETHING MORE ALONG THAT LINES.

OUR PLANT TREATS 2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

RIGHT NOW THAT'S NOT VERY MUCH IN ORDER TO MAKE IT WORK OR TWO, THEY'D HAVE TO PUMP IT BACK INTO LAKE TRAVIS AND THAT'D BE A WHOLE OTHER ISSUE.

UM, THAT WOULD BE A CONCEPT.

UH, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT CREATE AN ASR, AQUIFER, STORAGE AND RECOVERY PUMPING IN THERE, FILL IT UP THEN, UH, THAT WAS SOMETHING CORPUS WAS LOOKING AT SO THAT WE WOULD PUMP OUR, OUR A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANNING TO AN ASR KIND OF, UM, CONCEPT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THEY COULD DO OR NOT.

NO, I JUST AM REAL FAMILIAR WITH THAT UP IN WICHITA FALLS FOR, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS.

YEAH, THEY, YEAH.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING STRAIGHT, STRAIGHT AROUND TO THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

THAT'S TRUE.

PUMP IT RIGHT BACK OUT.

BUT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE WATER, I GUESS YOU DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

AND THE WATER THAT LEAVES THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS IS SO PEOPLE KNOW FROM THE PUBLIC, IF ANYBODY'S WATCHING, IS THAT IT'S, UM, IT'S REALLY CLEAN.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CLEAN IT TO A HIGH STANDARD TCEQ REQUIRES IT BECAUSE IT IS GOING BACK IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

SO I KNOW IT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT.

UM, BUT FROM A WATER TREATMENT STANDPOINT, IT'S TREATED TO A HIGH STANDARD.

WE GOT OVER IT.

OH, YOU WERE FROM THERE? YEAH.

OH YEAH.

I WOULDN'T THINK NOTHING OF IT.

SO, UM, THAT'S DON GRIMM'S WELL DRINK BOTTLE OF WATER, BUT, UM, SO BEFORE YOU GET TOO MUCH FURTHER IN, IN DAN, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.

YOU, YOU SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, THE LCRA, YOU KNOW, TODAY THEY HAVE ABOUT 45,000 THAT THE BOARD HOLDS IN RESERVE.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER 90,000, BUT IN ORDER TO GET THE WORD WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO BE, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY NEED TO BE UP TO AROUND 70,000, WHICH IS DEPLETES THEIR CURRENT RESERVES.

IS IT REALLY FEASIBLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET ALL THAT WATER FROM, UM, LCRA? REMEMBER WE WON'T NEED ALL THAT FOR, FOR 10, 10, 15 HOURS A WEEK CONTINUED TO NEED.

SO WHILE OUR SISTER CITIES AS WELL, THAT'S TRUE AND LCRA AND OTHERS ARE LOOKING INTO, UM, WAYS TO CREATE, CREATE MORE WATER THROUGH GROUNDWATER.

UM, LIKE I SAID, DESALINIZATION, UM, POSSIBLY A DNA MIGHT HAVE A, ANOTHER TYPE OF LAKE THEY'RE BUILDING.

UH, WHAT'S AT NORTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY IS, UH, BUILDING THEIR BRAND NEW LAKE, WHICH IS IMPRESSIVE.

UM, SO IT CAN BE DONE.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UH, WHAT WILL BE NEEDED AT THAT POINT.

YOU CAN ONLY PREDICT SO FAR.

UM, SO RIGHT NOW LEANDER HAS THE TREATMENT CAPACITY TO GO TO 62 MILLION GALLONS.

BUT DO WE HAVE THE CONTRACTUAL CAPACITY? WELL, NO, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A BOUNCE AND LCRA IS WORKING ON IT.

I COULD CERTAINLY SEND YOU THEIR PRESENTATION WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT FUTURE WATER SUPPLIES AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING AGAIN.

UH, IT WAS A GOOD, A GOOD PRESENTATION.

AND I'M SORRY IF I'M GOING AHEAD, BUT ARE WE LOOKING INTO A SECONDARY WATER SOURCE? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I GET THAT LCRA IS LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS, BUT IF WE'RE PUTTING OUR HOPE THAT SOMEONE ELSE CAN HOPEFULLY FIND ADDITIONAL WAYS, THEN I THINK THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE MILITARY THAT SAID HOPE IS NOT A PLANT.

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I SAY.

WATER? ARE THOSE OUR WATER? ARE WE CLEANING THE HOUSE THAT WORK IS WHO OWNS THOSE? LET ME GET YOU THE SLIDES.

25 YEARS I MADE A HOPE IS NOT A PLAN.

SO YEAH, WE'RE NOT HOPING, UM, LCRA KNOWS OUR PLANNING AND, UM, OUR PLAN FOR, TO TAKE US OUT TO LIKE 20, 40, MAYBE 50 WAS BCR UA.

SO THE PEOPLE BEFORE ME AND SAID, WE'RE GOING REGIONAL, WHICH IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

AND THAT WAS THE PLAN.

NOW THAT PLAN HAS CONTINUED TO WORK REGIONALLY AND SO FORTH.

SO, AND WE'LL GET TO THE BCR UA HERE.

AND, UH, IN THE UPCOMING SLIDES, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION AND THEN I'VE GOT A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL LIMIT IT TO TWO FOR RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE, UM, LIBERTY HILL, WE'RE SELLING THEM 7 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

DO THEY HAVE RIGHTS TO THE

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CAUSE THAT'S COMING UP.

IF IT IS THEN I'LL, I'LL PASS ON IT.

MY OTHER QUESTION IS WE LIE INTO RIVER BASINS.

WE LIVE IN AND THE COLORADO CRA AND VRA, HOW MUCH OF OUR WATER IS BEING DISCHARGED INTO THE BRAZOS RIVER AND HOW MUCH IS BEING DISPLAYING.

AND THERE IS TWO THIRDS ONE-THIRD, UH, THE TWO WATER SHED BASINS.

AND SO, UM, WHAT WE HAVE IS A PERMIT FROM TCEQ, WHAT'S CALLED AN INNER INNER BASE AND TRANSFER PERMIT.

WHICH ALLOWS US TO USE WATER FROM THE COLORADO WATERSHED.

IF YOU WANT TO SAY AND DISCHARGE THE DISCHARGE IT, OR JUST DISPUTE LIKE, UM, DIS UM, THROUGH DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM GO TO THE, UH, WHEREAS A RIVER WATERSHED SIDE.

SO IT GOES ON THAT SIDE.

UM, BUT FROM THE RAIN STANDPOINT, OR IF YOU WANT TO SAY THE TWO WATERSHEDS LITERALLY GO, YOU KNOW, ONE GOES WEST AND ONE GOES, GEESE, WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IS HOW MUCH ARE WE DISCHARGING INTO BRUSH CREEK? AND HOW MUCH ARE WE DISCHARGING OVER ON THE GOLF COURSE AND PUTTING IT BACK INTO THE COLORADO RIVER.

CAUSE INTERBASIN TRANSFERS ARE GOING TO BE A HOT ITEM IN THE YEARS TO COME.

YEAH, THAT'S PART OF THE, WHEN WE, THE PEOPLE DOWNSTREAM START FIGHTING ABOUT IT AND THEY START SAYING, HEY, WHY ARE WE TAKING SO MUCH OUT AT THE COLORADO AND DROPPING INTO THE BROWSERS? IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

SO MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE DOING ANYTHING TO POSSIBLY DISCHARGE MORE OF IT BACK INTO THE COLORADO TO STRENGTHEN OUR CLAIMS TO THIS? ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE TWO THIRD, ONE THIRD, LET'S GO WITH THAT INNER BASE AND TRANSFER.

SO, SO MOST OF THE WATER, UM, GETS, GETS USED AND IT GOES TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH DOES GET DISCHARGED ON, UH, ON THE, UM, THE, UH, BRACE, UH, BRAZEL RIVER SIDE.

SO IN A SENSE THAT'S, WE COULD PUMP IT BACK THE OTHER WAY.

THE THERESA ONE IS A ZERO, BUT IT IS GOING TO THE GOLF COURSE.

BUT AS FAR AS SEPARATING IT OUT, THE, YEAH, THERE'S NO PLANS CURRENTLY FOR THAT.

THAT WOULD BE A HARD, GOING TO BE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT VERY ISSUE.

AND I WOULD BE CONCERNED IF WE'RE NOT KIND OF AT LEAST LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE THE GUYS DOWNSTREAM ARE GONNA MAKE IT AN ISSUE.

UH, SO FAR HOPEFULLY THE, OR RIVER AUTHORITY HASN'T COME KNOCKING ON MY DOOR YET, BUT YEAH, IT COULD BE, WELL, THE GUYS DOWN THERE IN EAGLE LAKE AND ALL THE RICE FARMERS ARE GOING TO ASK, WHY IS IT THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CONTINUE TO RAISE RICE AND WE'RE PUMPING WATER INTO A DIFFERENT RIVER SYSTEM SO THEY CAN BUILD HOUSES.

THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

I, I, THAT COULD BE, I HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH ABOUT THAT YET, BUT THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE, AND THAT'LL BE PART OF OUR CONTRACT WITH LCRA IS WE HAVE TO, UH, UM, HAVE THAT PERMIT, UM, UPDATED FOR SURE FOR THE INCREASE IN A MOUSE COURSE THIRTY-FIVE YEARS AGO WAS INITIALLY BUILT TO BE A WASH WATER WASTEWATER DISPOSAL SYSTEM SO THAT WE DID NOT HAVE AN INNER BASIN TRANSFER.

AT THAT TIME.

WE HAD NO RIGHTS TO THE COLORADO RIVER BASIN AND IT WAS IN DISPUTE FOR A QUIET, QUITE A LONG TIME.

UH, OF COURSE WE HAVEN'T UTILIZED THAT, BUT AT THE TIME 35 YEARS AGO, IT WAS A VERY HOT ISSUE.

AND I SUSPECT IT WILL BE ANOTHER HOT ISSUE LATER ON IF WE DO, BUT A GREATER VOLUME BACK INTO THE COLORADO RIVER, WE HAVE A STRONGER CLAIM.

IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE TWO THIRDS, ONE THIRD INTERBASIN TRANSFER, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IT IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

AND IT'LL BE INTERESTING.

AND IT WON'T BE GOOD.

BE INTERESTING FOR SURE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO ALSO WATER CONTRACTS, UM, HERE, HERE IT GOES.

SO WE DO HAVE ONE WITH LIBERTY HILL AND YOU CAN SEE THE DETAILS.

WE HAVE A MAX FLOW RIGHT AT 1 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, AND THEY HAVE 600 ACRE FEET.

THAT'S 600 ACRE FEET.

THEY, THEY HAVE, UH, THROUGH THE LITTLE COLORADO RIVER AND THEY OWN THOSE RIGHTS IF YOU WANT TO SAY, OR CONTRACTED, UM, THROUGH THE, UH, NEW LAKE TRAVIS.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WE HAVE, UM, IS WITH GEORGETOWN AND THAT'S A FLOW RATE OF 3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, AND THEY HAVE 1200 ACRE FEET THAT THEY, UM, HAVE TO LCRA ALSO WITH, UH, LAKE TRAVIS.

SO HOW THESE TWO CONTRACTS WORK IS ESSENTIALLY, UH, THEY OWN THE RIGHTS TO THE WATER AND THEN WE TREAT THE WATER AND SEND IT TO THEM AND THEY PAY US FOR, FOR A SET AMOUNT.

SO THEY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH US THAT BASICALLY, UM, TREAT THE WATER AND SEND IT TO THEM.

AND THEN THEY HAVE A, UM, A WATER CONTRACT WITH LCRI SO THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHTS TO TAKE WATER FROM LAKE TRAVIS.

SO THOSE ARE OUR TWO WHOLESALE CONTRACTS WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN PLACE CLEANING THEIR WATER.

AND IN ESSENCE THAT IT'S THEIR WATER, BUT WE'RE CLEANING IT.

IS, AND, UM, THEY HAVE ANOTHER 600 ACRE FEET THAT DAY I CONTRACTED AND THEY WOULD LOVE FOR US TO DO THAT.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

ARE THEY MUCH OF THAT DAILY FLOW RATE THAT THEY'RE CONTRACTED FOR? ARE THEY ACTUALLY USING, ARE THEY MAXIM THESE OUT? GENERALLY WE SPEAKING, UH, LIBERTY HILL, UM,

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UM, WE ARE JUST NOT IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WE JUST DON'T GEORGETOWN HASN'T STARTED TAKING ANY, UH, UM, BECAUSE, UH, THEY'RE STILL HAVE THEIR FLOW METER.

THEIR VAULT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UH, BUT THEY'LL BE TAKEN THERE'S THIS SUMMER AND IT REALLY, THEY ONLY NEED IT SO MUCH LIKE US IF, UH, IF THERE WAS NO IRRIGATION, EVERYBODY HAS STOPPED WATERING EVERYTHING.

UM, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, WE WOULD HAVE QUITE A BIT OF EXTRA WATER.

AND SO WITH GEORGETOWN, THEY ONLY NEED THE WATER DURING THE SUMMER, UH, FOR THEIR PEAK DEMAND BECAUSE THEY WERE UNDER THE PROCESS OF ALSO EXPANDING ONE OF THEIR PLANTS.

AND THEN THEY'RE BUILDING A 42 MILLION GALLON PER DAY WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

UM, THAT'S IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OVER THE NEXT SEVEN TO EIGHT YEARS, REAL QUICK, UH, ON THAT SIDE, WHERE ARE WE AT ON THE CONTRACT? AND THAT SAYS, WHAT YEAR IS THAT? SO, SO YES, LIBERTY HILL IS 40 YEAR CONTRACT.

UM, CAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO GET WATER.

UM, SO THEY'RE GOING TO NEED LONG-TERM CONTRACTS.

AND EVEN AT THE NEXT 600 ACRE ACRE FEET, IF WE EVER GET TO A POSITION WHERE WE COULD SUPPORT IT, I'M SURE IT WOULD BE THAT THAT SAME, UM, 40 YEARS GEORGETOWN IS ONLY SEVEN YEARS.

UM, BUT IT DOES HAVE A RENEWAL OF THREE YEARS WHY THEY ONLY NEED SEVEN YEARS IS BECAUSE THAT'S THE TIME THAT THEY FEEL THAT THEY NEED TO EXPAND THEIR CURRENT PLANT AND BUILD A NEW PLANT BECAUSE THEY GET THEIR WATER FROM THEIR BRAZOS RIVER AUTHORITY AND HAVE THAT CONTRACTED OUT, UM, TO, UM, PROVIDE THE WATER.

BUT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE WATER FOR PEAK DEMAND CURRENTLY.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY WANTED TO BUY WATER FROM US.

THEY'RE ALSO BUYING 4 MILLION GOWNS PER DAY FROM ROUND ROCK.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A TOTAL OF 7 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

THAT'S GOING TO HOPEFULLY GET THEM THROUGH THE NEXT 6, 7, 8 YEARS.

DO THEY STILL HAVE THEIR CONTRACT? WE STILL ANIMALS FOLLOW FROM THERE.

I DO NOT KNOW THAT THEY, AND THEY DIDN'T BRING IT UP, BUT WE NEVER USED IT.

WE SOLD IT TO THEM.

I'M CURIOUS IF THEY'RE STILL HOLDING THE RIGHT.

AND, AND IF WE HAD ALL THE WATER CAPACITY IN PLACE, IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE THAT BIG OF A CONCERN, BUT BECAUSE WATER IS BECOMING A, UM, A MORE STRINGENT COMMODITY, UM, HAVING A LARGE CCN NECESSARILY, ISN'T A GOOD THING.

NO, I I'D HAVE TO LOOK THAT ONE UP.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

UM, WE, WE HAVE MET, UM, AND I PERSONALLY MET WITH MY STAFF, UM, EVERY OF THE CITY OFF ALL THE CITIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE AN OPERATIONS COMMITTEE THAT WE MEET WITH A BCR UA AND ONE SIMILAR FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT ONE.

AND THEN I'VE ALSO MET WITH, UH, BOTH RIVER AUTHORITIES AND, UM, AND BASICALLY TALKED THROUGH ALL OF THESE WATER SITUATIONS.

AND SO, UM, IT'S VERY INTERTWINED, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, SO, UH, REAL QUICK, THIS IS OUR, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY OUR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY.

UM, THE HASH BLACK LINE IS THE, UH, ETJ AND THEN THE, OF GOLD ONE THAT KIND OF SCOOTS IN AND OUT OF THAT IS OUR CCN.

UM, AND, UM, I ALWAYS HAVE TO LOOK IT UP, BUT THAT'S A CERTIFICATE OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY.

UM, ESSENTIALLY SAYING THAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO, UM, SELL WATER WITHIN OUR AREA AND OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T COME IN AND SELL WATER TO PEOPLE WITHIN OUR AREA, THE TWO.

UM, SO WE BASICALLY HAVE A MONOPOLY ON THAT AREA, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ALSO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE WATER TO EVERYBODY IN THAT AREA.

AND, UM, FOR US, THAT'S GOING TO GET TRICKY OVER THE NEXT AND FOR SIMILAR REASONS THAT GEORGETOWN IS GOING TO GET TRICKY FOR, FOR LEANDER TO DO THAT OVER THE NEXT SEVEN TO EIGHT YEARS.

AND YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE REASONS WHY AS WE, UH, AS WE GO FORWARD.

SO, SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED A CCN THAT BIG? UM, AND SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF OUR WATER, OUR WATER DISCUSSIONS.

AND I, I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, BUT I'LL SAY FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT ETJ STANDS FOR EXTRA, UH, TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.

SO THAT'S THE AREA OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS.

THAT'S USUALLY SIZED BY POPULATION.

UM, I KNOW CORPUS BECAUSE, UH, OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, I THINK IT'S FIVE MILES.

IF IT'S UNDER THAT, IT'S SO MANY MILES OR HALF A MILE, WHATEVER THAT IS.

SO, UM, SO THAT'S HOW THE ETJ IS, ARE DETERMINED FOR, UH, FOR A GIVEN CITY.

UM, FOR THE MOST PART, THE CPN IS WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO BRING UP HERE AND YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH LARGER IT IS THAN ACTUAL CITY LIMITS.

IT'S PRETTY BIG.

HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? DID WE ALLOW THAT OR IS THAT FORCED ON US? UH, NO.

UH, WE W THE CITY OF LEANDER, YOU KNOW, UM, MADE THOSE DECISIONS AND WE HAVE A WA A WATER AND WASTEWATER ONE.

AND, UM, IT PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE DAY WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO GROW AND BUILD IT PROBABLY WASN'T A CONCERN.

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AND SO, UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO LOOK AT AND BALANCE OUT.

UM, SO THE, SO THE NEXT PART, I KIND OF WANTED TO GO OVER THIS.

UM, THIS IS THE CITY LIMITS, AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS OUR WATER SYSTEM, UM, IN GENERAL.

AND, UM, WHAT'S A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU NEED TO SEE FROM HERE IS, UM, THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE FORTHCOMING.

AND I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THOSE LATER, BUT THIS IS REALLY TO SHOW YOU THE, SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS THAT EACH OF THE AREAS IS A DIFFERENT COLOR.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT PRESSURE, PRESSURE, PLANE, UM, THAT WE HAVE TO CONTEND WITH.

AND USUALLY YOU COULD SEE THE VARIOUS WATER TANKS AND JUST ABOUT HAVE ONE IN EVERY, UM, VARIOUS, UH, PRESSURE PLANE.

AND WE ARE BUILDING A COUPLE MORE AND A COUPLE OTHER, UH, PRESSURE PLANES, WHICH WE'LL DISCUSS HERE.

UM, WHEN WE GET TO, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROJECTS.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW WE'RE LAID OUT, UM, A LOT OF CONGESTION HERE.

UM, AND, AND WE'RE UPGRADING THAT WHERE, WHERE WE TAP IN IS RIGHT HERE IS ONE OF OUR POINTS OF CONNECTION WHERE THE BCRA.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ONE IN THE VSO AREA, WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE DOWN IN THIS AREA.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO HAVING A THIRD ONE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY TODAY BEING FLESHED OUT RIGHT HERE AT BAGHDAD AND NEW HOPE AND, UM, THAT CONNECTION.

SO WE'LL HAVE THREE CONNECTIONS THAT WE CAN, UM, ALLOW WATER TO EASILY GET AROUND THE CITY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LITTLE TROUBLE WITH GETTING IT FROM THE EAST SIDE TO THE WEST SIDE AND SO FORTH.

SO WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS, UM, CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UM, A FEW THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND SOME OF THESE FUTURE ONES THAT ARE GONNA HELP BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT WATER AROUND THE CITY AS DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES TO GROW.

DAN, HOW MANY SLIDES DO YOU HAVE TOTAL? DO YOU KNOW? I DO.

DO YOU MIND TELLING ME 28? OKAY.

HOW ARE WE DOING? WE'RE NOT TOO BAD.

SO THE, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS ONE, CAUSE THIS IS A COMBATIVE VIEW OF THE SYSTEM.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.

THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY, UM, WITH THE VARIOUS TANKS.

SO EVERYTHING HERE IS IN PLACE EXCEPT FOR, UM, THE WEST SAN GABRIEL PUMP STATION.

UM, THAT ONE IS NOT CURRENTLY IN PLACE.

UM, WE JUST BUILT THE CRYSTAL TANK.

WE JUST BUILT THE SAN GABRIEL PUMP STATION AND THE MAN ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS ARE SOME OF THE NEW IDEAS OR A NEW, UH, COMPONENTS.

THESE ARE THE THREE AREAS.

IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT WHERE THE BCR UA TAPS IN, YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT ACTUALLY IS LABELED, UM, AND HERE IT'S LABELED, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE WHERE IT CONNECTS TO THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, THE MIDDLE ONE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY FINISHING UP, UM, THIS WEEK.

AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE LIBERTY HILL, UH, IS RIGHT HERE, UH, TAPS IN OFF THE, UH, THE NORTH END OF, UH, OF THE CITY.

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING THIS ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.

AND IT'S A RESALE AREA.

AND THIS ONE ALONG, UM, REAGAN, UH, THE SAN GABRIEL.

AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE BUILDING A PUMP STATION HERE, UM, WITH THE STORAGE TANK, UM, ALONG RONALD REAGAN TO FACILITATE, UM, BETTER DISTRIBUTION AND STORAGE OF THE SYSTEM.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE WHERE GEORGETOWN IS GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE SYSTEM, UM, RIGHT THERE IS THE FACT THAT THAT ARROW IS GOING OUT, MEANING THAT THAT'S ONLY WATER GOING TO GEORGETOWN.

WE'RE NOT GETTING NO THAT'S GOING TO THEM.

I MEAN, WE COULD AS A, THERE'S A CONNECTION THERE, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE PURPOSE OF IT.

AND YOUR, AND GABRIEL, UH, ELEVATED STORAGE TANK THAT YOU'VE GOT IN YOUR GRAPHIC IS, IS IT BIGGER THAN THE REST? IT SEEMS TALLER, BUT I CAN'T READ THE NUMBERS ON.

IS THAT JUST A GRAPHIC THING? THAT'S JUST THE, THAT'S JUST THE GRAPH.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT.

SO THIS ONE IT'S, THAT ONE WILL BE 1.5.

I MEAN, THEY ALL CHANGED.

I THINK, UH, I CAN SEE THAT THE CRYSTAL BALL IS ONE IS ONE.

UM, THE CR TWO 80 TANK IS 1.25 1.25.

IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER AT 1.5.

UM, WHICH IS GOOD.

THEN IN 26, IT EXPANDED TO 6 MILLION GOWNS.

SO, SO ANYWAY, JUST TO GIVE YOU A FEEL FOR, UH, HOW MANY PUMP STATIONS WE HAVE, HOW MANY PRESSURE PLANS WE HAVE, STORAGE TANKS, ET CETERA.

SO WE HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST SYSTEM AND IT'S GOING TO BE MORE SO IN THE FUTURE.

SO OUR, OUR SANDY CREEK WATER TREATMENT PLANT, UM, THAT'S THE PLANT ITSELF.

UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S RELATIVELY NEW IN, UH, IN MY TERMS. UM, IF I, IF I WANT TO SAY I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON IT.

UM, SO IT WAS ESTABLISHED OR COMMISSIONED IN 2001 AT 4 MILLION GALLONS.

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AND THEN IN 2018, IT EXPANDED TO 12 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

UM, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THE ACTUAL PLANT RIGHT HERE, UM, AND IT HAS BEEN EXPANDED.

AND THIS, ALTHOUGH THIS, YOU CAN SEE THE BACK ONE, THE BACK ONE IS THE BARGE, AND THAT'S WHERE OUR RAW WATER LINE AND PUMPS ARE THAT ACTUALLY PUMP WATER FROM THE LAKE TO, UM, THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND THE GENTLEMEN, OR WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT THE LAKE GOING LOW, THOSE BARGES ARE CONCERNED.

UM, BUT THERE WAS A FIXED AS PART OF THE BCR UA.

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THOSE BARGES.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF LIMITED TO 10 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY BECAUSE OF WHEN WE EXPANDED, WE DIDN'T EXPAND THE, UH, SLEDGE PROCESS PART OF IT.

SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE OPERATIONAL LIMITATIONS THAT LIMITED IT LIMIT US TO ABOUT 10 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

SO IN A CIP PROGRAM, WE HAVE UPGRADE TO THE SLEDGE PROCESS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DESIGNING AND BUILDING A REDUNDANT, UM, TRAIN, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER, WE HAVE TO RUN ALL SIX TRAINS.

IF WE HAVE TO DO MAINTENANCE OR ONE BREAKS DOWN, WE DON'T HAVE REDUNDANCY THERE.

SO ARE WE DONE OUR TRAIN, WHICH YOU WOULD COME IN HANDY? WHAT IS A TRAIN? OKAY, SORRY.

A TRAIN IS ESSENTIALLY THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

SO YOU CAN THINK OF A, ABOUT LIKE LITERALLY A TRAIN.

YOU KNOW, THE CABOOSE IS THE BARGE.

UH, THE NEXT ONE IS THE CLARIFIER.

THE NEXT ONE IS THE, UH, THE FILTERS.

AND SO BASICALLY IT'S A LONG KIND OF EACH, EACH ONE IS 2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY IS HOW THEIR SIZE.

WE HAVE SIX OF THEM.

AND SO THAT GIVES US OUR 12, A SEVENTH WOULD GIVE US TWO MORE, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS RUN OUT ONE AND SHUT ON ANOTHER ONE AND CHANGE OUT FILTERS OR, OR SO FORTH.

WHICH OF COURSE CORRESPONDS TO THE AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TREAT.

GOOD QUESTION.

SO THE NEXT WATER TREATMENT PLAN WE HAVE AS THE BSR, YOU A WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS STARTED IN, UM, IN 2006.

AND THAT'S WHEN THE, UM, UH, THE PCR UA AUTHORITY WAS ESTABLISHED.

AND, UM, THAT'S BEEN IN THE PROCESS AND IS BEING BUILT IN PHASES.

AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS A GOOD PICTURE HERE SHOWING YOU ALL THREE BARGES.

UM, THERE IS OURS, THAT'S THE ONE FOR, UH, CEDAR PARK.

AND THIS ONE, THE LARGER ONE IS FOR BCR UA, BUT IT ACTUALLY HAS A DOUBT TWO LARGE ONES, BECAUSE WHEN IT INCREASED IN SIZE, IT HAD INCREASED THE PUMP CAPACITY FOR THE RAW WATER.

AND SO NOW THEY HAVE TWO BARGES OUT THERE.

THIS IS THE, UH, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THE SERVICE AREA FOR BCR UA.

SO IT BCR YOU THE 106 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY COVERS THESE THREE CITIES.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT RIGHT THERE IS WHERE THE WATER TREATMENT PLANTS LOCATED.

AND THEN, UM, DOWN HERE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE JUST, UH, FOR FUTURE AS WHERE THE INTAKE AND THE PUMP STATION IS GOING TO BE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT FOR THE BCR UA, THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY IN PLACE, BUT I DID WANT TO SHOW YOU THE SERVICE AREA THAT'S BEING COVERED BY THAT PLANT.

SO THE, THIS IS HOW IT'S SO FAR BEEN BUILT.

UM, PHASE ONE WAS WHAT THEY CALL ONE, A ONE B, WHICH WAS ABOUT 17 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

INITIALLY THEN PHASE TWO, WHICH WAS JUST COMPLETED, UH, TOOK IT TO 32 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

SO RIGHT NOW THE PLANT CAN MAKE 32 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

THE NEXT PHASE, WHICH IS PHASE ONE D WE'LL TAKE IT TO 42 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

UM, AND THEN AGAIN, NOW IT'LL BE DIVIDED UP AMONGST THE THREE, THREE CITIES ALSO WITH THAT, UM, IS PHASE TWO.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S THE DEEP WATER INTAKE AND THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO RUN ALL THOSE PUMPS IN THAT SYSTEM.

AND SO, UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT NOW, THE NEXT PHASES, AND I DIDN'T SHOW THEM IS PHASE TWO A WHICH WE WILL NEED.

AND THAT TAKES, UH, THE AMOUNT OF WATER UP TO 70, 67 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

AND THEN THE FINAL PHASE WOULD SAY CALLED PHASE THREE ULTIMATE BUILD-OUT TAKES IT TO 106 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

SO YOU'LL SEE THIS BREAKDOWN HERE.

SO THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN OF, FOR THE CITIES AND I'LL EXPLAIN THIS.

SO, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THE PLANT'S GOING TO MAKE 106 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

AND THEN, UH, EACH OF THE CITIES GET THOSE AMOUNTS US FOR US.

IT'S 50 ROUND WALK.

IT'S 40.5.

CEDAR PARK IS 15.5.

I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME DIAGRAMS OF THE DEEP WATER INTAKE, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE DEEP WATER INTAKE IS TO ALLOW US TO OPERATE AT THE LOWEST LEVELS OF THE LAKE.

AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THAT THE DEEP WATER INTAKE HAS, CAN PROVIDE WATER TO THE BCR UA PLANT, THE CEDAR PARK PLANT AND OUR PLAN.

SO OUR PLAN WE'LL TAKE 12 CEDAR PARK, WE'LL TAKE 26 AND THEN THE BCR UA, OR WE'LL TAKE THE 1 0 6,

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SO THE ULTIMATE BUILDUP FOR THE RAW WATER DEEP WATER INTAKE IS 144 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

SO THAT SYSTEM IS GOING TO PROVIDE FOR ESSENTIALLY, UH, THREE CITIES WHERE THE RAW WATER, IF YOU WANT TO SAY THAT ONE SYSTEM.

SO, AND ON YOUR PREVIOUS SLIDE, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE COST FOR THE PHASE TWO FOR THE DEEP WATER INTAKE.

IS THAT THE TOTAL COST THAT'S GOING TO BE SHARED ACROSS ALL THREE CITIES OR IS THAT JUST LEANDER PORTION? THAT'S ALL THREE CITIES, THE ANDREWS RIGHT NOW.

UH, THE, UH, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE LAST BUDGET, UM, WE APPROVED A $40 MILLION AND WE'RE GOING, WE'RE USING THIS WITH LOAN, SAME WITH CEDAR PARK.

UM, RON ROCK IS ACTUALLY PAYING CASH, UM, IMPRESSIVE, BUT THEY'RE PAYING THEIR PORTION AS CASH.

UM, SO WE TOOK OUT A SWIFT LOAN OF ESSENTIALLY, UM, AND WE'RE DOING IT IN PHASES, BUT WE'RE GOING TO, OUR PORTION WILL BE $120 MILLION.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP THREE IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

WE'LL TAKE OUT $40 MILLION ESSENTIALLY EACH YEAR FOR THAT WE'RE PAYING, WE'RE PAYING 50% OF THE COST, BUT WE'RE GETTING 12 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY EXTRA, THAT'S IT? NO, WE'RE GOING TO GET 50 MILLION GOWNS.

SO THAT'S THE TOTAL.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR BUILD-OUT WILL BE 50 MILLION GALLONS, LIKE W W LEANDER AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'LL HAVE 62 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF WATER, WHICH IS A, QUITE A BIT OF WATER, RIGHT? OH, RIGHT.

CAUSE TODAY WE'RE GETTING 21 MILLION, THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE THE, WELL, WHAT'S OUR CAPACITY TODAY.

I MEAN, WHAT CAN, RIGHT NOW IT'S 25 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

WE GET 15 CURRENTLY FROM THE PCR UA, WHICH IS THE PHASE C PART FACE.

HE'S MAKING 32 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

RON ROCK ROCKETS, 8.5, CEDAR PARK IS 8.5 AND WE GET 15.5 ESSENTIALLY.

AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE PUMP CAPACITY, BUT WHAT'S OUR TRANSPORT CAPACITY, OUR TRANSPORT CAPACITY.

ONCE WE HAVE THOSE TWO LINES, I TOLD YOU THE 24 INCH, THEN THIRD CONNECTION, AND WE BUILD A SAN GABRIEL LINE, WHICH WILL BE DONE ESSENTIALLY THE MID-NOVEMBER, OUR CAPACITY WILL BE, WE'LL BE MORE THAN CAPABLE TO HANDLE ALL THAT.

AND AS WE BUILD THE CIP PROJECTS, IT'LL BE MORE SO AS, AS BCRA COMES ON, WE'LL BE BUILDING MORE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEMS TO FACILITATE HANDLING THAT.

THAT'S WHY THE FUTURE REAGAN PUMP STATION AND A POSSIBLE FUTURE WEST SAN GABRIEL PUMP STATION AND, AND SO FORTH.

SO PHASE TWO IS GOING TO COST $216 MILLION.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND OUR SHARE OF THAT IS 50% OF THAT IS IT IT'S 120 MILLION THEREABOUTS.

SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN 50%.

UM, UM, I'M NOT, I, I STICK TO LIKE, UM, WITHIN A MILLION I'M PROBABLY PRETTY GOOD DEALING WITH THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

SO, UM, AND IT'S ALL ESTIMATED.

SO I JUST KNOW THAT FOR THE SWIFT LOAN, UM, WE WENT THROUGH THE BOARD AND I DO CITY COUNCIL, AND THEY KNOW IT AS $120 MILLION, MORE OR LESS 40 MILLION A YEAR FOR THREE 40 MILLION YEARS.

OVER THREE YEARS, SENATOR DID, DID THE, IN THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDED, UH, WHICH INCLUDES THE 16 MILLION FOR ONE DAY.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WERE THERE ANY COSTS OVERAGES IN THE FIRST PHASES OF THE PROJECT, THEY ACTUALLY HAD SAVINGS.

UM, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DID, IT WAS, IT WAS INITIALLY SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT TO 30 MILLION GALLONS AND THEY DOWNSIZED IT TO 17, BUT THEY HAD SOME ENGINEERING VALUE IN THERE AND THEY, SO THEY DID SAVE SOME MONEY, WHICH IS BEING USED TO BUILD THE NEXT PHASES.

THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY THERE.

UM, I DID A LOT OF READING, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY.

THIS WAS SINCE 2006, THIS, UM, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING ON.

SO, BUT THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, UM, WITH THIS PROJECT.

SO, SO, SO THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE, UH, THIS IS WHERE, UH, KIND OF THE NEXT, THE NEXT PHASE AS I TALKED ABOUT.

AND SO PHASE ONE, IF YOU WANT TO THINK IT WAS THE ONES WE TALKED ABOUT.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AND IT SAYS, PHASE ONE, RIGHT HERE, THIS, THIS, THIS LINE WAS BUILT PART OF PHASE ONE, THIS BLUE LINE IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE, UH, THE DEEP WATER INTAKE AND IT'S PHASE TWO.

AND YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER DIAGRAM OF IT WAS JUST GOING TO GO TO THE PUMP STATION.

AND THEN THE PUMP STATION IS GOING TO PUMP IT BACK OUT TO THE PHASE ONE WATER LINE, WHICH THEN TAKES IT TO ALL THE PLANTS.

SO NONE OF THE BLUE LINE HAS BEEN BUILT YET, CORRECT? CORRECT.

THE BLUE LINE OR THE GOLD LINE.

THIS RED LINE IS THE ONE THAT BASICALLY, IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT GOES TO THE, TO THE BARGES DOWN THERE.

THAT IS, THAT IS PART OF THAT, UH, $216 MILLION.

AND THAT PUMP STATION HAS NOT BEEN BUILT YET.

AND YOU'LL SEE YOUR RENDERING OF THAT YEAR.

UM, NEXT.

SO THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OUT.

AND SO WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU HERE IS THAT THERE IS THAT BLUE LINE AND A GOAL LINE.

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SO THAT WAS ALL A PHASE ONE.

SO THAT, THAT RAW GOES THERE.

THERE'S LEANDRA THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, UH, THERE, CEDAR PARKS, WATER TREATMENT PLANT, THEY'RE TAKING A WATER STRAIGHT OUT OF THE LAKE.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BARS.

BUT THEY ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THIS BLUE LINE THAT'S GOING THERE.

THE GOAL LINE GETS IT TO OUR WATER PLANT AND THEN THE BCR YOU A WATER PLANT.

WHEN YOU SAY LAND OR WATER TREATMENT PLANT, YOU'RE REFERRING TO SANDY CREEK THE SAME.

SO SANDY CREEK IS LOCATED IF YOU WANT TO SAY RIGHT THERE.

AND, UH, THE BCR UA WATER PLANT IS LOCATED RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN CEDAR PARKS, UM, PLANT IS LOCATED RIGHT ALONG THE LAKE.

UM, I'VE BEEN TO THAT PLANT AND IT'S AND THAT WHOLE AREA THERE.

SO, SO I, I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE YOU'VE ALREADY ANSWERED THIS, BUT JUST HUMOR ME HERE.

LET'S START HERE.

YOU SAID, UH, SO THE FUNDING HAS ESTABLISHED FOR THE NEXT PHASE, WHICH IS GETTING US THAT BLUE LINE AND THE DEEP WATER INTAKE AND THAT THE GOLD TUNNEL BETWEEN THE RED AND THE BLUE, ALL THAT FUNDING IS ESTABLISHED.

WHAT IS THE TIMELINE ON THAT GETTING STARTED AND GETTING FINISHED? IT'S, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

UM, IT'S ALREADY BEEN DESIGNED AND THEN IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, PUT OUT FOR BID AND EVALUATE THE BIDS HERE OVER THE NEXT ESSENTIALLY YEAR.

THE END RESULT IS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED BE DONE 27, THE SUMMER OF 27, 20, 27.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, IN BETWEEN THAT TIME, IT'S LIKE A, IT'S AN ALL OR NOTHING THING, I GUESS, LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE USING THE BARGES AND THOSE INTAKES RIGHT UP UNTIL THE MINUTE THAT A, WHAT DOES THAT FIVE-YEAR PERIOD FROM NOW FOR FIVE OR SIX YEAR PERIOD? IT'S NOT LIKE IT RAMPS UP CAPACITY.

THERE'S A TUNNEL THEY'RE BUILDING THAT WON'T BE DONE UNTIL 20, 27.

CORRECT.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT HERE.

THIS IS KIND OF A RENDERING OF, OF HOW THAT, HOW THAT LOOKS.

SO YOU'RE SEEING THE TOP VIEW, AND THEN HERE IN THE NEXT, I'LL SHOW YOU A, ESSENTIALLY A SIDE VIEW OF KIND OF HOW THE TUNNEL THAT'S GOING TO WORK AS COMPARED TO THE LAKE.

SO WHILE OFF, SEE, I GOT, I GOT THIS DOWN, SO THIS IS THE TUNNEL PART OF IT.

AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS WHEN YOU ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE LAKE IS THAT IT'S TAKEN IT AT A VERY LOW PART OF THE LAKE RIGHT HERE.

AND IT'S TUNNELING UNDER UNTIL IT GETS TO THE PUMP STATION HERE.

AND THAT PUMP STATION IS GOING TO HAVE A 300 FOOT SHAFT.

SO YOU COULD SEE SOME OF THE NUMBERS UP THERE OF, OF THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS PROJECT OF, UM, KIND OF HOW BIG AT THE TUNNEL IS GOING TO BE THE LENGTH OF IT'S GOING TO BE HOW DEEP IT'S GOING TO BE.

AND, UM, AND THEN OF COURSE YOU SAW THE OVER LAND OF THE DIRECTION THAT IT'S GOING TO BE GOING.

SO OVER THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS OR SO, OR SIX YEARS, SEVEN YEARS, THIS IS THE PROJECT.

UM, THE PHASE TWO PROJECT, WHAT THEY CALL THE DEEP WATER INTAKE THAT THEY'RE CREATING IN ORDER TO PROVIDE WATER, THOSE THREE PLANTS AND THE AMOUNT OF 144 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

THIS IS THE ACTUAL, UH, RENDERING OF THE PUMP STATION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ALSO BE BUILDING, WHICH WILL COLLECT THE WATER VIA GRAVITY FROM THE LAKE TO THE PUMP.

AND THEN THEY'LL DRAW IT UP AND THEN PUMP IT TO THE VARIOUS PLANTS WHO WHO'S DECIDING THE, OR WE'RE DOING THE BIDDING PROCESS OR THIS PROJECT BCR UA THROUGH WALKER PARTNERS.

CAUSE THEY ARE THE ENGINEER OF RECORD.

GOTCHA.

UM, SO THAT KIND OF, BEFORE WE KIND OF MOVE ON, THAT WAS THE WHOLE KIND OF LIKE OUR WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, WHAT WE OWN, THE TWO WATER PLANTS, HOW THEY WORK, HOW THEY OPERATE KIND OF THE PHASES OF THE BSR, UAE, WHERE IT'S GOING.

AND SO BEFORE I STARTED TALKING ABOUT, UM, LEANDRA SPECIFIC, WAS THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD KIND OF BASED ON THE REGIONAL CONCEPTS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE PROJECT ITSELF.

SO SAY SOMETHING GOES WRONG AND THEIR PROJECT PRICE RAISES NO LABOR COST AND EVERYTHING HAPPENED KIND OF HERE RECENTLY THIS YEAR, SAY THE PRICE GOES UP TOO, YOU KNOW, IT DOUBLES.

DOES LEANDER HAVE TO COME COVER THAT COST OR, YEP.

THAT WE'RE BORROWING IS, DO WE KNOW THE INTEREST RATE IT'S THROUGH THE, UH, TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD? OKAY.

AND IT DISCUSSING OUR, UH, OOPS.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY DISCUSSED IN THE LAST, UM, OPERATIONS MEETING THAT WE HAD.

AND, UM, AND THERE WAS A, UH, AN, A CITY LEADERSHIP HAS, UH, A REPORT THAT INDICATED THE POSSIBILITIES DUE TO THE, UM, GLOBAL ECONOMICS, RIGHT.

THAT THE REAL POSSIBILITY OF THE COSTS COMING IN HIGHER IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN.

UM, SO ON THE 40 MILLION

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SO, UM, THEY USUALLY ARE LIKE 1% OR 1.2, 2%, 2%.

I MEAN, ERIC, THE REASON YOU GO THROUGH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MUST SAY IT'S ALMOST FREE MONEY.

COOL.

BECAUSE THE INTEREST RATE IS SO LOW, UH, CORPUS IS TRYING TO, THEY JUST APPLIED FOR ONE FOR THEIR DIESEL PLANT, UM, AT A TUNE UP, YOU KNOW, $200 MILLION IS WHAT THEY'RE SHOOTING FOR.

BUT FOR THE SAME REASON IS BECAUSE THE INTEREST RATE IS SO LOW.

AS LONG AS YOU GET IT LOCKED IN, THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP.

IT WASN'T AN ISSUE WHEN THIS WAS FIRST PROPOSED AND NOW IT WAS A BIG ISSUE.

AND AS ZEBRA MUSSELS ARE EACH CITY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN CONTROL OF THAT PROBLEM, OR DO THEY HAVE A REGIONAL SOLUTION TO IT AND A MAINTENANCE.

SO TO BCR, YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE BCR UA EQUIPMENT.

SO, BUT FOR SANDY CREEK WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE, FOR THE SANDY CREEK, WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR OURSELVES? SO AGAIN, WHAT IS, WHAT IS OUR PROTOCOL? WHAT ARE WE DOING? UM, WELL, SOME OF THE PLANTS USE VARIOUS CHEMICALS TO FACILITATE TAKING CARE OF IT.

UM, WE HADN'T ACTUALLY PUT OURS IN PLACE.

WE WERE SUPPOSED TO LAST SUMMER, BUT PCR UA HAD THAT WATER LINE BREAK AND THE RAW WATER LINE IS ANOTHER WHOLE ISSUE THAT, UM, IS BEING DISCUSSED AND WORKED OUT.

UM, PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TIME TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THAT THAT'S IN ITSELF AN ISSUE, BUT WE, WHEN WE DID THE, UM, WE HAD TO FIX THE, UH, VALVES, UM, WE HAD SOME PUMP PROBLEMS WITH SANDY CREEK AND WE LOOKED DOWN THE DISTRIBUTION OF IT.

AND, UM, I HAVE A VIDEO AND THERE WAS NO ZEBRA MUSSELS IN THERE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE NOT AS BAD AS PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE OR, OR WHAT, OR WHATEVER, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT.

BUT ESSENTIALLY WE HAD NONE IN OUR, OUR RAW WATER INTAKE LINE.

NOW THIS WINTER, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME MORE.

UM, BECAUSE, UH, LAST WINTER WE, WE HAD TO RUN THE PLANT, WHY THEY TOOK, UH, BCRA FIXED OUR WILD WATER LINE.

AND THAT TOOK ABOUT FIVE MONTHS.

SO SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE THAT WE WERE GOING TO COMPLETE LAST WINTER, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS WINTER.

AND WE'LL BE LOOKING INTO, UM, SOME OF THAT AND DOING SOME INSPECTIONS TO SEE REAL QUICK, WHERE WE ARE FOR REAL, BUT AN INITIAL INSPECTION OF THE, OF THE BARGE.

CAUSE I WENT OUT THERE, BUT WE SAW THE BARGE.

IT DIDN'T INDICATE ANY, ANY REAL CONCERNS.

I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I KNOW CEDAR PARK HAS HAD QUITE A BIT OF PROBLEM.

THEY DO HAVE THEIR CHEMICAL FEED SYSTEM IN OPERATION.

YES I DO.

AND THEN THEY SAID BEFORE THEY STARTED THAT IT HAD BECOME QUITE A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM.

SO I WAS JUST WANTING TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF THAT.

UM, AND LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS, THIS WAS NOT EVEN, AND THEN ONE THING I SHOULD MENTION TOO, IS PART OF THE DEEP WATER INTAKE IS THOSE THREE BARGES YOU SAW.

AND ALTHOUGH TECHNICALLY WE'RE KEEPING OURS BECAUSE THAT WAS KIND OF A REQUEST.

AND WE W WE DESIGNED IT TO KEEP THE BARGE.

AND IF WE EVER DECIDED TO EXPAND, SANDY CREEK, WE'D HAVE TO USE IT.

BUT IN THEORY, THE DEEP WATER INTAKE PROVIDES ALL THE WATER FOR THE THREE PLANTS.

SO ALL THE BARGES IN THEORY TO GO AWAY THERE AND WHAT TWO OF THEM ARE, UH, CEDAR PARK IS NOT GOING TO KEEP THEIR BARGE AND IT BCRA BARGES ARE GOING TO GO AWAY.

SO, AND JUST, JUST FOR MY EDIFICATION HERE, HOW MANY ACRE FEET DO WE HAVE RESERVED IN LAKE TRAVIS? AGAIN, I KNOW YOU WENT OVER THAT 94,000 ACRE FEET, 24,000 ACRE FEET.

ARE GOING TO HELP FACILITATE MOVING THAT WATER AROUND.

YES, SIR.

OUR TOTAL, UM, STORAGE CAPACITY OF OUR WHOLE SYSTEM RIGHT NOW.

DO YOU KNOW THAT? SO ALL OF OUR, WELL, LET'S SEE, WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY THREE ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS, WHICH IS ABOUT A MILLION, SO THAT'S THREE, 2 MILLION GALLON STORAGE TANKS.

SO THAT'S FIVE, MAYBE IN THE 6 MILLION GALLON.

AND WHAT'S OUR AVERAGE DAILY USAGE.

IT'S A, IT'S A ABOUT 12.

SO RIGHT NOW, AN EMPTY EFFECTIVELY, EVERY SINGLE TANK IN THE CITY, TWICE IN A 24 HOUR PERIOD.

IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? UM, YES AND NO.

WHAT YOU'RE REALLY DOING IS IT TAKES ALWAYS THIS.

THEY FULL BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE, UH, MAINTAIN PRESSURE AND DURING FIREFIGHTING REALLY PUMPING IN AND DRAWING WATER OUT 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, RARELY IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT THAT WAY.

UH, BUT THE DISTRIBUTION IS PEOPLE ARE USING A WATER SO MUCH THAT THEY JUST ARE DRAWN DRAWING OFF IT LIKE A MILLION STRAWS OR TAPPING OFF ALL THE, SO, UM, THE TANKS JUST KIND OF MAINTAIN.

NOW, WHEN IT'S FUNNY, YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IF DURING THE SUMMER THAT CR TWO 80 TANK FOR PARTS OF THE SUMMER, IT WAS AT ZERO, MEANING THAT THE WATER WAS THE MAN WAS SO HIGH PEOPLE WERE USING WATER SO QUICKLY IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE COULDN'T KEEP UP.

UM, WE COULDN'T MOVE THE WATER AROUND THE CITY FAST ENOUGH.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO FIX THAT PROBLEM WITH THE SAN GABRIEL WATER LINE.

THAT'S A 24 INCH WATER LINE COMING FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST, AND THEN THAT OTHER INTAKE FROM THE BCR UA, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO USE DCR, UAA WATER IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE CITY.

AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CIP PROJECTS, YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF OTHER ONES COMING UP THAT

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I, I WANT TO SAY THIS TO THE CHAIRMAN AND MAYBE MRS. GRIFFIN, THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE INFORMATIVE DISCUSSIONS I THINK WE'VE HAD, AND WE'RE CLEARLY NOT GOING TO GET THROUGH EVERYTHING TONIGHT.

SO WE SHOULD DO THIS AGAIN SOON AND GET MR. GRIMSBY BACK.

I HATE TO STEAL THIS THURSDAY EVENINGS, BUT I'LL WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS A LOT MORE.

OH YEAH.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT.

IT'S BEEN A GOOD CONVERSATION FOR SURE.

SO I JUST WANTED THE KIND OF BEFORE WE GO THERE AND CIP THAT WE DO THIS CITY DOES HAVE A WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES.

AND, AND WE ARE DOING A STUDY CURRENTLY FOR A ROAD ROAD IMPACT FEES.

SO THIS IS THIS KIND OF, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A SUMMARY ON, ON WHERE WE ARE.

SO WE DO HAVE A, I WOULD SAY A FUNDING SOURCE TO PROVIDE, UH, FUNDING FOR OUR CIPS.

SO, UM, SO I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT EVERY PROJECT I'M ON A CIP, BUT I DID TALK ABOUT, UM, SOME OF THE MORE, I GUESS, UH, IMPORTANT ONES.

SO LET ME CATCH UP WITH MYSELF.

SO THE SAN GABRIEL PARK LINE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND YOU CAN SEE THE COST.

IT WAS ACTUALLY CLOSER TO 1.6 MILLION.

AND WHAT THEY'RE CALLING THE BAGHDAD INTERCONNECT IS ACTUALLY WHAT I CALL OUR THIRD TAKE POINT.

AND SO NOW WE HAVE THREE TAKE POINTS AND, UM, THAT WATER LINE IS ALMOST DONE.

THOSE TWO WATER LINES.

THOSE ARE BOTH 24 INCH OR CROONER PROVIDE, UM, GOOD CAPACITY.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY CAPACITY, I ALWAYS THINK OF A TWO WAYS YOU'VE GOT TREATMENT CAPACITY, AND THEN YOU GOT DISTRIBUTION CAPACITY.

SO FROM A DISTRIBUTION CAPACITY STANDPOINT, IT'S GOING TO HELP US MOVE WATER AROUND.

UM, SO HERE, HERE'S ALSO ONE THAT WE ALSO, UM, COMPLETED, UM, NOT, UH, PROBABLY ABOUT FIVE MONTHS AGO, MAYBE, BUT IT'S THE SAN GABRIEL BOOSTER PUMP STATION.

AND THAT'S, WHAT'S GOING TO MOVE WATER FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST SIDE.

CURRENTLY IT HAS THREE PUMPS AND IT CAN GO SOMEWHERE AROUND FIVE OR 6 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

IT CAN MOVE WATER, UM, BUT BRAND NEW.

UM, I VISITED IT'S A STATE-OF-THE-ART, SO IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE ADDITION ONCE WE GET USING IT.

AND THEN THIS IS THE SAN GABRIEL 24 INCH WATER LINE.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT STARTS AND THEN WHERE IT'S TAPPING IN TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CITY.

AND, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF PHOTOS THERE SHOWING THE, UH, THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING.

UM, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S BEEN A GOOD PROJECT.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY COMPLETED NOW, UM, AND IT'S GOING THROUGH THE DISINFECTION OF, UH, OF THE LINE, UM, IS ACTUALLY THE, SO WE HAVE A 72 INCH, YOU KNOW, THAT RED LINE THAT YOU SAW, UM, WOULD THAT RED LINE GOES UP, UM, NEW HOPE AND KEEPS GOING.

AND SO THAT 24 INCH TAPS RIDE OFF OF THAT 72 INCH WATER LINE FROM THE BCRA AND GOES TO THE 10 MINUTES, UM, UH, PUMPING AND STORAGE TANKS RIGHT THERE.

SO IT WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE WATER THERE AND ALSO TO THE LOW, LOW PRESSURE ZONE OF, UM, THE, OF THE CITY.

SO AT OTHER GOOD PROJECT.

SO FOR, UH, THE CIP COMING UP, UH, THESE ARE THE, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER GOING TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR, OR INDESIGN.

SO CURRENTLY SAN GABRIEL ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IS ACTUALLY BEEN DESIGNED AND IT'S GOING TO GO INTO CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN THE SANDY CREEK IS UNDER DESIGNED FOR THIS SLEDGE IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN THE TERMINUS HIGH ZONE PUMP STATION, WHICH IS GOING TO, UM, CHANGE THAT 12 INCH WATER LINE TO A 24 INCH WATER LINE.

AND THEN ALSO PUT ANOTHER MILLION GALLON STORAGE TANK IN THAT LOCATION WITH UPGRADED PUMPS AS ALSO, UM, IN DESIGN, WHAT WILL IT BE IN DESIGN? SO THOSE ARE LOCATED, UM, RIGHT THERE IS THE ONE, CAUSE THERE IS THE CONNECTION, RIGHT? AND SO THERE IS THE PUMP STATION.

AND THEN THE LINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN FOR THAT NEXT PART, WE ALREADY COMPLETED THE 24 INCH CONNECTION IN BETWEEN THAT 72 INCH LINE.

UM, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE WORKING ON AUTO.

IT'S, NOT HERE, THE TREVISO ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.

AND THEN THE OTHER BIG ONE IS, UH, THE SAN GABRIEL ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IS GOING TO BE, BE WHERE YOU PUT IN PLACE.

AND THEN IN , WE'RE GOING TO BE STARTING TO DESIGN FOR THEIR RONALD REAGAN PUMP STATION AND STORAGE TANK.

UM, AND WE'RE HOPING TO GET THAT IN CONSTRUCTION IN 24, MAYBE 25 RANGE.

SO THOSE ARE SOME FUTURE PROJECTS, UM, SOME LARGER ONES AND, AND WHERE THEY'RE OCCURRING, UM, IN THE CITY.

OF WATER AND ANYBODY USING OVER THIS AMOUNT, WHICH IS 20,000 GALLONS IN A MONTH IS PRETTY, PRETTY SLIM.

SO THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE CIP PROJECTS AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND HAVE BEEN WORKING ON OVER THE, OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN THE YEARS IN THE FUTURE.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF THE CITY WATER USAGE, AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, IN THE WINTER, UM, MOST PEOPLE USE LESS THAN 10,000 GALLONS

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NOW GO TO THE SUMMER AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE USING 10,000 TO 20,000 AND OVER 20,000 GALLONS A MONTH JUMPS UP DRAMATICALLY.

WHAT'S GPC D S GALLONS, UH, PER SAY AGAIN, YES.

MAXI PER DAY.

GOT IT, GOT IT, GOT IT.

CSA, UH, GOWNS PER PERSON PER DAY.

DO YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT? UM, THAT'S THE ENGINEERS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE POLITICAL SCIENCE FOLKS, YOU KNOW, BIG WORDS.

SO, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE GO FROM, UM, AND THE AVERAGE 83 GALLONS PER PERSON TO A WHOPPING 270.

AND SO, UH, EVERY CITY, UM, HAS THIS KIND OF CONCERNED IN THIS AREA, UM, YOU CAN SEE GEORGETOWN HAS COMMERCIALS AND, AND LIBERTY HILL WAS BASICALLY HAS SIGNS OUT DON'T WATER, CAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF WORSE THAN, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT SAME THING.

BUT, UM, THIS IS A GOOD GRAPH TO SHOW YOU THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE, UH, BUSINESSES AND NO INDUSTRY.

I MEAN, ALL THE WATER WE USE AS RESIDENTS AND IN A SUMMER, ALL THE RESIDENTS ARE IRRIGATING OUT THE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A KIND OF AN EYEOPENING WHEN YOU SEE IT IN THAT FORMAT.

SO, UH, THIS IS BASICALLY KIND OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING BUILT, MEANING CONDOS, APARTMENTS, SINGLE FAMILY, AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, HOW MANY THAT ARE GOING TO BE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CONTENDING WITH ASSOCIATED WITH HOW TO MANAGE OUR WATER WITH THIS GROWTH.

AND THAT COMBINATION THERE OF, WE MIGHT ACTUALLY MAKE IT TO THE END HERE, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS THIS LAST SLIDE, BUT I WILL CERTAINLY COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT ANY OF THE DETAILS.

UH, THESE ARE THE LEAVES ARE THE AREAS THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING, UM, TO TRY TO WORK OUT OUR WATER CONCERNS FOR THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS, BECAUSE WE NEED THE BCRA TO BE BUILT AND PHASE ONE DAY, IT WON'T BE BUILT FOR TWO MORE, THREE MORE YEARS, MOST LIKELY THREE YEARS.

AND PHASE TWO, A WON'T BE BUILT UNTIL 2028.

AND THOSE TWO NEXT PHASES ARE, ARE REALLY NEEDED FOR LEANDER TO MAINTAIN THAT, UM, A GAP BETWEEN WATER DEMAND AND WATER CAPACITY.

AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT MORE IN DETAIL, MAYBE AT THE NEXT SESSION, UM, KIND OF THE CONCERNS WITH THE ANDER AND WATER USES AND SO FORTH.

THIS WAS KIND OF LIKE THEY GAVE YOU A FEEL OF OUR SYSTEM WHERE WE GET IT, WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE SYSTEM.

AND, AND SO SOME OF THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO FACILITATE, UM, MANAGING WATER USAGE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS AND INTO THE FUTURE.

UM, BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED, UM, LCRA AND OTHERS, UH, WATER IS BECOMING A, A HARDER THING TO COME BY AND MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE OF COURSE ARE NEEDING IT.

SO, AND I THINK THAT WRAPS IT UP.

SO ANY, ANY LAST QUESTIONS WE HAVE WHEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE THOUGH, IS AS THAT BREAKDOWN OF WHAT OUR USAGE BY TYPE OF RESIDENTS, BECAUSE WE TALK A LOT ABOUT, UM, SINGLE FAMILY USING A LOT MORE WATER, BUT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IT IN A PER ACRE, UH, CAPACITY, OR IS IT AN INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY? BECAUSE I, I ABSOLUTELY PROBABLY USE MORE WATER THAN AN APARTMENT THAN A PERSON IN AN APARTMENT.

HOWEVER, FOUR HOMES ARE IN AN ACRE IN MY, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT YOU CAN PUT 25 UNITS IN AN APARTMENT IN THE SAME ACRE.

SO WHO'S USING MORE WATER IN A PER ACRE CAPACITY.

AND SO THE LIVING UNITS TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY DO THAT.

AND SO WE SAW THAT, SO AN APARTMENT LIVING UNIT WOULD BE LESS THAN A HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT IRRIGATING THEIR LAWN AT THE HOME.

THEY MIGHT HAVE A COMMON GROUND AREA THAT'S OF A HOMEOWNERS OVER COMPLEX SITUATION.

BUT SO THE LIVING UNIT EQUIVALENT, UM, KIND OF MODIFIES THAT, OR IF YOU WANT TO SAY WEIGHTS, WEIGHTS THAT OUT.

CAUSE IT WAS BASICALLY SIX APARTMENT UNITS PER MY, MY HOME.

AND OF COURSE, IF YOUR HOME IS ON A BIGGER PIECE OF PROPERTY, RIGHT.

IT'S IN A MORE YOU WATER, ET CETERA.

AND W WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE, UH, ALL THE DIFFERENT USES FROM COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL, UM, VERSUS, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, DUPLEX.

SO WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS ON THAT.

SO, SO THAT'S WHY SO MANY REASONS WHY WE'RE DISCUSSING.

SO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES USE PROBABLY

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90%.

THEY'RE NOT, THEY ACCOUNT FOR 90% OF 'EM.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY INDUSTRIAL TO REALLY SPEAK OF, AND BUSINESSES ARE PRETTY, PRETTY, LIKE THAT'S WHY WE REALLY WOULD.

PART OF THE MANAGING THE, AS YOU SAW THE COMP PLAN IS TO TRY TO TRY TO KEEP THE COMP PLAN WHERE IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH ZONING.

AND IF IT SAYS COMMERCIAL, THEN KEEP A COMMERCIAL.

UM, BECAUSE IN THE LONG RUN, THEY ARE PROBABLY GONNA USE LESS WATER AND THEY BRING IN MORE THAN THEY, YOU KNOW, USE UP IN THE STRICTEST SPENCE SINCE.

SO.

RECORD SHOW, ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONER CAUS GROVE,

WELL THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU COMING BACK.

HOPEFULLY THAT WAS HELPFUL.

MR. GREENSBORO, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UH, SEND THAT PRESENTATION TO MRS. GRIFFIN SO SHE CAN.

SO WE WILL ADJOURN THE SPECIAL SESSION.

THE TIME IS 7 0 2 AND WE'LL TAKE A FIVE QUICK FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

[4. Call to Order.]

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF LEANDRA PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TODAY IS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 14TH.

THE TIME IS 7:10 PM AND WE'RE CALLED TO ORDER.

LET THE

[5. Roll Call.]

[6. Director’s report to the Planning & Zoning Commission on actions taken by the City Council at the October 12, 2021 meeting]

AND WE WILL NOW RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, GREG.

UM, SO I'M MAKING A PRESENTATION ON THE ITEMS THAT WERE TAKEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE OCTOBER 12TH MEETING.

UM, THEY REVIEWED THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH ORDINANCE AMENDMENT ON CONSENT AND APPROVE THE SECOND READING.

UM, THEY ALSO APPROVED THE HAMPTON PARK CONCEPT PLAN, I'M SORRY, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

THAT'S THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS IN THE ACTIVITY CENTER OFF OF REAGAN.

UM, THEY REVIEWED THE M RANCH ZONING CASE AND ON THAT ONE, THEY DID MAKE CHANGES.

THEY REMOVED THE SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE PORTION, AND THEN THEY TOOK THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL PORTION AND PULLED IT BACK 500 FEET FROM, UM, HIRO WAY.

UM, THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BE DEDICATED AS RIGHT AWAY IN THE FUTURE AND ZONING IT TO COMMERCIAL, UM, MAKES IT, UH, MORE COSTLY FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO ACQUIRE IT.

UM, THAT'LL BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

UM, THEY ALSO APPROVED THE GARLOCK CONCEPT PLAN AND VARIANTS.

UH, THEY APPROVED THE MASON TRACT, MINOR PUD THAT ONE, THEY ADDED SOME PHASING AND ADDITIONAL WATER CONSERVATION, UM, PROVISIONS TO IT AND THEIR PROVISIONS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING TO OUR ORDINANCE.

SO IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH FUTURE ORDINANCES.

UM, THEY ALSO DISCUSSED THE ACTIVITY CENTER.

UM, THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.

SO WE'RE GOING TO START THE PROCESS TO, UM, CHANGE THE MAKEUP OF THE CENTER AT RONALD REAGAN, UM, WHERE IT INTERSECTS WITH HERO WAY IN 2243 TO ALLOW THE SINGLE FAMILY RURAL, UM, AND THE AREA THAT'S COVERED BY THE RECHARGE ZONE AND NOT HAVE THAT COUNT AGAINST THE RESIDENTIAL.

UM, THE LAST THING, NOT FROM THE COUNCIL AGENDA.

UM, THEY HAVE SCHEDULED THE JOINT WORKSHOP WITH THE COMMISSION FOR NOVEMBER.

I THINK IT'S NOVEMBER 18TH.

UM, I'LL SEND YOU GUYS AN EMAIL CONFIRMING THAT IT'LL BE A SIX O'CLOCK WORKSHOP BETWEEN THE TWO GROUPS AND THAT'S IT FROM OUR REPORT ROBIN.

SORRY, MR. CHAIR, CAN I JUMP IN REAL QUICK? UM, SO ON CASE 21, Z 0 2 7.

SO THE ONE THAT IN THE ACTIVITY CENTER, WHICH THEY REDUCE THE SEMI, CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT? LIKE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT AS, AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS, THAT THOSE THINGS AREN'T TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND, AND BROUGHT UP, SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHY, WHY IT GOT ALL THE WAY TO COUNSEL BEFORE SOMETHING WAS MENTIONED ABOUT THAT.

ARE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PIECE OF IT? UM, IT'S NOT TYPICAL TO HAVE A CONDITION WHERE WE ANTICIPATE THE DEDICATION OF 500 FEET OF FRAT OF WASTE.

SO THIS IS A UNUSUAL AREA OF THE CITY.

UM, SO THAT THAT'S A PIECE WHERE THE, THE COUNTY TECH AND THE CITY HAVE WORKED ON AND ALIGNMENT.

UM, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE CONSIDERED REGULARLY.

SO IT'S KIND OF BASED ON THEIR SUGGESTION.

WE'LL PROBABLY DO RESEARCH AND ADVISE APPLICANTS DIFFERENTLY GOING FOR.

AND WHAT IS THE COST DIFFERENCE OF THE LAND? I MEAN, YOU CAN ROUGHLY BALLPARK IT LIKE TWO TIMES, THREE TIMES, FIVE TIMES, 10 TIMES.

IT'S SIGNIFICANT.

UM, WHEN IT'S RURAL, YOU DO ONE UNIT PER ACRE.

UM, WHEN IT'S COMMERCIAL, YOU GET HIGHER VALUE.

LIKE YOU COULD HAVE BIGGER BUILDINGS, THEY COULD BUILD A COMMERCIAL USE.

LIKE THERE'S A GAS STATION, THAT'S IN THE PATH.

AND, UM, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE, UM, UH, TORN DOWN TO BUILD THE ROAD SO THAT THAT'S MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A HOUSE OR UNDEVELOPED LAND.

HIS LAND, WE CAN, WE CAN DO SO AT A CHEAPER PRICE CHEAPER.

I, I, I JUST, UH, SO I WATCHED IT AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AGAIN TODAY, AND I'M JUST HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING HOW WE, AS A CITY, WON'T LET A LANDOWNERS ZONE LAND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH WE'VE SAID WE WANTED TO FOLLOW, AND WE'RE MAKING HIM KEEP LAND THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THAT PLAN.

JUST SO WHEN WE FORCIBLY TAKE

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I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER AGREED WITH YOU ABOUT ANYTHING MORE THAN I DO THIS.

I FIND IT ABSOLUTELY BONKERS THAT WE HOLD CONTROL OVER WHETHER OR NOT THE LAND BECOMES MORE PROFITABLE.

AND THEN WE ARE ALSO THE ONES WHO END EFFECTIVELY WE, OR THE COUNTY ENDS UP BUYING THE LAND, UH, FROM THE HOMEOWNER AT EFFECTIVELY A DEPRESSED PRICE BECAUSE WE DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT GETS DEPRESSED OR NOT.

IT'S INSANE.

ABSOLUTELY INSANE.

I MEAN, IT SOUNDS GREAT TO A MAJORITY OF THE CITY I'M SURE.

AND IT'S GOOD FOR VOTERS AND WHATNOT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT.

IT DOESN'T MAKE IT THE RIGHT.

WELL, THE QUESTION IS, DOES THE CITY AND THE COUNTY HAVE A TIMELINE AS TO WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY MAKE A DECISION? ARE WE GOING TO JUST HOLD THIS GUY AND SAY, SORRY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING UNTIL WE FINALLY DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

YOU KNOW, I, IT STRUCK ME THE SAME WAY.

AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS PROBABLY MY LAST MEETING AND I HATE TO GO OUT OF GREEN WITH MARSHALL, BUT I DO, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT HE WAS AGREEING WITH ME.

WE'RE ALL AGREEING WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

IT JUST MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.

HOW WE AS A CITY DO THIS TO A LAND OWNER WITHIN OUR OWN CITY WHO WANTS TO BRING BUSINESSES TO OUR CITY.

MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AS WRITTEN ITEMS NINE THROUGH 12 MOTION TO APPROVE.

IF THE COUNTY WANTS THE LAND, THEY SHOULD BUY THE LAND.

NOW, IF THEY COULD HAVE DONE IT BEFORE THEY CAME IN FOR A ZONING CASE, IF THAT'S, WHEN THEY WANTED TO GET IT CHEAP, BUT THEY WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THEY'RE READY TO DO IT.

AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE KEEPING THIS GUY'S LAND FROM BECOMING MORE PROFITABLE.

IT'S RIGHT.

SO, SORRY TO KIND OF AMBUSH YOU WITH THAT ROBIN, BUT I WANTED IT ON THE RECORD THAT, THAT THAT'S, I JUST COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH ALL THAT WENT DOWN WHEN SHE WAS THE NIGHT, LET US KNOW, LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE'S AT LEAST THREE OF US THAT WERE DEEPLY DISTURBED BY WHAT HAPPENED.

I MEAN, THEY'RE HOLDING THIS GUY UP AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT EXPOSES US TO, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A LITTLE, LITTLE, THIS IS NOT A GUY THAT'S COMING IN WITH A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON SITE.

PLEASE HELP ME.

THIS IS A MAN.

THAT'S PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY ON THE LINE AND THEY SHOULDN'T THAT VERY PLEASED GIVEN THE PYLON AND HIM AND HIS FAMILY HAVE OWNED THAT LAND LONG BEFORE TXDOT DECIDED THEY WANTED TO EXPAND THE ROAD OR THAT WE HAVE PLANS TO EXPAND THE ROAD.

WELL, QUITE OFTEN PEOPLE, THEIR NEXT STOP IS THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

IF THIS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS.

AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN COME TO A REASONABLE DECISION WITHOUT THAT.

OKAY,

[7. Review of meeting protocol.]

LET'S MOVE ON.

AND WE WILL REVIEW THE MEETING PROTOCOL.

AND ALSO WE HAVE CITIZEN COMMENTS ON ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS AS ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA, IF NOT, WE WILL

[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]

SECOND, WE HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY,

[13. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Subdivision Case 21-CP-009 to adopt the Leander Estates Concept Plan on three parcels of land approximately 210.6 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R560185 and R560184; and Travis Central Appraisal District Parcel 905245; generally located at the northwest corner of CR 280 and the future extension of Lakeline Blvd., Leander, Williamson and Travis Counties, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Subdivision Case 21-CP-009 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

NUMBER 13, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING SUBDIVISION CASE 21 TO ADOPT THE LEANDER ESTATES CONCEPT PLAN ON THREE PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 210.6 ACRES, MORE OR LESS IN SIZE, AND GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF COUNTY ROAD TWO 80 AND THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF LAKELINE BOULEVARD, LEANDRA WILLIAMSON, AND TRAVIS COUNTY, TEXAS.

SO THIS CASE HAS BEEN POSTPONED THE APPLICANT, POSTED THE SIGNS ON THE WRONG PROPERTY, AND WE'RE HAVING TO RE NOTIFY FOR THE CASE.

SO IT WILL BE AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.

ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CASE 21, CPAS 0 0 6.

THANK YOU

[14. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Comprehensive Plan Case 21-CPA-006 to amend the Comprehensive Plan land use category from Neighborhood Center, Multi-Use Corridor and Neighborhood Residential to Transitional Residential and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-013 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFS-2-B (Single-Family Suburban), LO-2-A (Local Office), and LC-2-C (Local Commercial) to adopt the Enclave at Crystal Falls PUD (Planned Unit Development) with a base zoning district of TF-2-A (Two-Family) and LC-2-A (Local Commercial) on three parcels of land approximately 14.452 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R559253, R031342, and R031341; and more commonly known as 10959, 10965, and 10981 E. Crystal Falls Pkwy, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Comprehensive Plan Case 21-CPA-006 as described above. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-013 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE CATEGORY FROM NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, MULTI-USE CORRIDOR AND NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL TO TRANSITIONAL RESIDENTIAL AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 Z 0 1 3.

TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM S F S TWO DASH P SINGLE FAMILY, SUBURBAN L OH TWO, A LOCAL OFFICE, AND L TO SEE LOCAL COMMERCIAL TO ADOPT THE ENCLAVE AT CRYSTAL FALLS, PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF T F TWO, A TWO FAMILY AND LLC TO A LOCAL COMMERCIAL ON THREE PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 14.45, TWO ACRES, MORE OR LESS IN SIZE AND MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1 0 5 9 1 9 6 5 AND 1 0 9 8 1 EAST CHRISTOPHER CHARLES PARKWAY, LANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

SO THE OWNER AGENT HERE TONIGHT IS LAND ANSWERS, INC.

MR. JIM SETLIFF ON BEHALF OF OUR CG ENCLAVE AT CRYSTAL FALLS, LLC.

UH, JUST RESTATING THE CURRENT ZONING IS INTERIM SF S TO BE

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SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN, UH, THE COMMERCIAL ON-SITE.

THERE WE GO IS L OH TWO EIGHT LOCAL OFFICES AND LC TO SEE LOCAL COMMERCIAL.

UM, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN BOTH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE REZONING PROCESS.

THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT THAT WILL PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE AND EQUITABLE TRANSITION BETWEEN A LARGER SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING TO THE NORTH, WHICH WE'LL GET IN WITH THE ZONING, UH, AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL LAND USE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS CRYSTAL FARM CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY TO THE SOUTH.

UH, SO THE PUD CONSISTS OF THEY'RE ASKING FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR A PUD WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICTS OF TF TWO, A TWO FAMILY AND LC TWO A, WHICH IS A LOCAL COMMERCIAL.

SO SOME SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS, UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 120 UNITS OF TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ALONG WITH A MINIMUM OF 3000 SQUARE FOOT, A RETAIL COMMERCIAL USE LET'S SEE AIR COMMERCIAL USE WILL.

AND THIS PORTION RIGHT HERE WHERE THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL, UM, THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP CALLS THIS AREA OUT AS BOTH NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, CENTER PRIORITY CORRIDOR.

UH, THAT ONE PUTS A CAP AT RESIDENTIAL USE AT 30% AND A MIXED USE CORRIDOR, UH, WITH RESIDENTIAL NOT TO EXCEED 40% OF THE AREA.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THESE PORTIONS OF THE MAP BE AMENDED TO TRANSITIONAL RESIDENTIAL TO ALLOW FOR THE TWO FAMILY PRODUCT TYPE.

THIS CHANGE WOULD INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL ALLOWED ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.

THE APPLICANT IS ADDITIONALLY REQUESTING A BLOCK LENGTH WAIVER OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, UH, LISTED THIS SECTION IN THIS STAFF REPORT.

UH, AND THE WAIVER HAS BEEN REQUESTED BECAUSE THE ABOVE REQUIREMENT IS NOT POSSIBLE DUE TO THE FACT THAT ALL ADJACENT PROPERTY NORTH OF THIS SITE HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN DEVELOPED AS LARGE LOT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THESE TRUCKS UP HERE.

SO TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE IS INTERIM SFR, ONE B, AND IT IS A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, A RIDGE MAR LANDINGS, UH, TO THE EAST IS SFS TWO B AND INTERIM S F R ONE B BOTH RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH ACROSS, UH, THE ROAD IS GC THREE C AND H C3 C.

UH, THE GC THREESY CURRENTLY IS A RESIDENTIAL, UH, HOMESTEAD USES HASN'T DEVELOPED YET.

AND THEN THERE IS A COMMERCIAL OFFICE PARK ACROSS THE ROAD HERE, UM, TO THE WEST IS SFS TO BE, UH, AN INTERIM SFR, ONE B UH, BOTH UNDEVELOPED.

UM, THE SITE CONTAINS A SIGNIFICANT TREE COVER THAT WOULD NEED TO BE PRESERVED OR MITIGATED, UH, AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT, MAJOR CORRIDORS.

IT HAS ACCESS ON TO CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY, WHICH IN OUR, UH, MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS AN EXISTING FOUR LANE ARTERIAL ROAD, EXISTING UTILITIES.

THERE IS A 24 INCH WATER LINE, UH, WITHIN THE PROJECT SIDE OF CRYSTAL FALLS RIGHT AWAY THAT THEY'LL TIE INTO.

AND ALSO AN EIGHT INCH SEWER LINE AND MANHOLE WAS EXTENDED TO THE SITE, UH, THE FIRE STATION, NUMBER FOUR IMPROVEMENTS.

AND I LISTED THE PLANT PACP PLAN SET.

THAT THAT WAS A PART OF, I THINK THE STUB IS SOMEWHERE OVER HERE.

LET'S SEE.

SO THE APPLICANT HAD A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH STAFF ON NOVEMBER OF 2020, A POST DEVELOPMENT MEETING.

THE APPLICANT CHANGED THE, UH, PROPOSED TOWNHOUSE PRODUCT TO A TWO FAMILY PRODUCT, UH, ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS, OR, UH, THERE WAS A NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, AS WELL AS THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR.

UH, SO THOSE ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHEN THE APPLICANT CAME IN AND HAD THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING.

UM, NOTIFICATION PUBLIC NOTICES WAS PUBLISHED IN THE PAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION ON NOVEMBER 23RD, UH, MAILING NOTIFICATIONS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET PER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE WAS SENT OUT ON SEPTEMBER.

THE 30TH PUBLIC NOTICE, UH, WAS POSTED ON SITE, UH, ALSO ON SEPTEMBER 30TH.

SO THEY HAD THEIR SIGNS OUT.

UM, TONIGHT IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, UH, AND A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER.

THE FOURTH WILL BE THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IN THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE AND TENTATIVELY ON NOVEMBER THE 18TH, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE THEIR, UH, FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE,

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UM, PUBLIC NOTIFICATION, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE NOTICE MAILED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, THE AGENT REACHED OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, ZONED AND USED AS SINGLE FAMILY WITHIN 500 FEET, UH, PER HER COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.

A TOTAL OF 17 TOTAL PROPERTY OWNERS WERE CONTACTED VIA MAIL ON NOVEMBER 21ST, 2020, ALONG WITH A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, UH, CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED ALONG WITH A LETTER ON NOVEMBER 1ST, A PUBLIC MEETING WAS HELD WHERE ONE PROPERTY OWNER ATTENDED NO ADDITIONAL EMAILS, LETTERS, OR CALLS WERE RECEIVED FROM THE APPLICANT.

UH, FOR MANY OTHER NEIGHBORS, UH, BELOW IS A LIST OF A FEW OF THE CONCERNS.

UH, THE RESIDENT, UH, REQUESTED A PRIVACY FENCE TO BE ABLE TO BE BUILT ALONG THEIR PROPERTY LINE.

DO YOU WANT YOUR LIGHTING FROM THE SUBDIVISION IS DOWNWARD FACING, UH, AND DOES NOT TRESPASS INTO THE NEIGHBORS TRACK AND INCREASES NOISE DURING EVENING HOURS? NO SPECIFIC CONDITIONS WERE ADDED OR MODIFIED WITHIN THE REZONING REQUEST BASED ON THE ABOVE NEIGHBOR CONCERNS, PLEASE SEE THE FULL REPORT, UH, IT WAS ATTACHED IN YOUR PACKET IS, UH, ATTACHMENT NUMBER 10.

UM, STAFF DID RECEIVE TODAY A LET'S SEE A CITIZEN COMMENT THEY WANTED TO, THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE THEIR NAME.

IT WAS REDACTED.

UH, THEIR POSITION ON THE AGENDA ITEM WAS FOR THE REZONE.

UH, THEY WANTED ME TO READ THE COMMENTS, UH, OUT LOUD.

SO IT WOULD BE STATED ON THE MEETING RECORDS.

UH, I'M DISAPPOINTED.

I WON'T BE GETTING RED BARN NURSERY BEHIND ME, BUT I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THE CHANGE REQUEST.

IF ALL INFORMATION I EVER RECEIVED SO FAR IS ACCURATE.

MY MAIN CONCERN IS THE IMPACT TO MY PROPERTY VALUE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE BUFFER THAT IS SHOWN IN THE RENDERING ALONG THE BACK PROPERTY LINE FROM CAVALIER IS ACCURATE.

AND IF SO, HONORED, I BACK UP TO 1 0 9 5 9 EAST CRYSTAL FALLS.

I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE DEVELOPER PROVIDES SOME SORT OF PRIVACY FENCE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATIONS, UH, REGARDS, UH, LENAY AND JOHN ROLLIN.

UH, SO AS PART OF THE APPROVAL CRITERIA, THE F THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATED A MAJORITY OF THE SUBJECT AREA AS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER PRIORITY CORRIDOR AND MIXED USE CORRIDOR.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD SITE CENTER PRIORITY CORRIDOR DESIGNATION IS INTENDED TO FOCUS ON COMMERCIAL USES, NOT RESIDENTIAL AND FACILITATE A MORE ACTIVATED NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT EDITED DESIRED MIX OF 70 TO A HUNDRED PERCENT NON-RESIDENTIAL USES ECHOING THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.

THE MIXED USE CORRIDOR ALSO SEEKS THE FOCUS ON COMMERCIAL USES, HOWEVER, WITH A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL TRANSITIONAL PRODUCTS, NOT TO EXCEED THE 40%.

SO, UH, THE APPLICANT IS EXCEEDING THE 40% CAUSING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT.

UH, THIS REQUEST IS NOT COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHILE THE REQUEST WOULD REDUCE POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE AREA, THE PROPOSED ZONING OF TF TWO A WOULD PROVIDE A TRANSITIONAL PRODUCT TYPE BETWEEN THE LARGER LOT SIZES TO THE NORTH AND THE HIGHER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL AND CIVIC USES THROUGH THE SOUTH TF TO A RESIDENTIAL PORTION SHALL HAVE A MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARD, UH, AND SETBACK PER THE PROPOSED PUD, WHICH YOU HAD IN YOUR PACKET WHILE THE LC TO A RETAIL CENTER, WHEN IT DEVELOPS ITS SETBACKS, UH, SHALL COMPLY WITH THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.

THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING, UH, HIGHER STANDARDS AND WAIVER REQUESTS.

SO I'LL KIND OF OUTLINE SOME OF THOSE.

UM, SO THE HIGHER STANDARDS THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING ARE VISITOR PARKING REQUIREMENT, DECORATIVE METAL FENCING, AND MASONRY SCREENING WALLS, THE WAIVERS THEY ARE REQUESTING, OR AN INCREASED AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREA ALREADY ZONED LOCAL COMMERCIAL USES A CONDO REGIME DEVELOPMENT USE OF PRIVATE DRIVES INSTEAD OF A PUBLIC STREET PERIMETER BLOCK LENGTH REQUIREMENT, WHICH WE WENT OVER EARLIER AND OPTIONAL INTERIOR LIGHTING.

UM, STAFF'S THOUGHTS IF THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL WISHED TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST, STAFF SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING CHANGES, UH, BASED ON OUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION, THE TURF GRASS, THEN IN THEIR OWN STRIPS, UH, ADJACENT TO THE STREET CURVES BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE PAVEMENT THAT LITTLE, UH, LANDSCAPED AREA SHALL BE PROHIBITED MATERIALS SUCH AS RED RIVER ROCK, UH, CRUSHED GRANITE OR SIMILAR PRODUCTS SHALL BE USED IN THIS LOCATION.

ALL HOA LANDSCAPE LIGHTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO 50% TURF GRASS COVERAGE.

UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH A PRESENTATION.

UH, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO SOME QUESTIONS.

THE APPLICANT HAS PRESS STATION STEPPED FORWARD.

PLEASE

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DID A GOOD JOB.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS JIM WETLAND, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY.

UH, FIRST I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB, AND I'M MAKING MY JOB A LOT EASIER.

THERE'S SO MUCH LESS FOR ME TO EXPLAIN.

UM, WE PUT OUR OWN MAPS TOGETHER THAT ARE QUITE SIMILAR, BUT SOME OF THEM DON'T LOOK AS GOOD AS THE STAFF MAPS.

SO LIVE AND LEARN.

UM, AS, AS WAS STATED, THIS IS WHAT THE PROJECT IS INTENDED TO LOOK LIKE 120 RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM UNITS.

THEY'RE EACH, UH, TWO UNITS ATTACHED WITH ONE COMMON WALL AND THEN A SMALL RETAIL CENTER, UH, IN THE, IN THE FAR CORNER.

AND BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE THAN 60% OF THE PROJECT AS RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN HERE TO ASK FOR, UH, UH, UH, A CHANGE OF THE PLANS.

THIS IS WHAT THE FRONT ELEVATIONS ARE PROPOSED TO LOOK LIKE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

THESE UNITS ARE SCHEDULED TO SELL IN THE LOW THREE HUNDREDS.

THERE'S BEEN STRONG DEMAND.

IT'S REALLY FUNNY.

THEY HAVEN'T, UH, THEY HAVEN'T EVEN GOT THE ZONING APPROVED.

THEY DON'T HAVE BUILDING PERMITS.

AND YET THEY'VE HAD, UH, AN ONSITE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN BUYING THESE UNITS FROM THEM.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A STRONG DEMAND.

UH, THIS IS YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND, UH, BLOW UP A CORNER OF THAT MAP TO SHOW WE'VE OUTLINED OUR PROP, OUR PROPERTY ON HERE.

AND OF COURSE THE EXISTING MULTI-USE CORRIDOR, UH, IS, UH, IS HERE.

AND THEN WITHIN THE, UH, THE EPICENTER AT THE INTERSECTION OF RONALD REAGAN AND CRYSTAL FALLS, WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AND THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER PRIORITY CORRIDOR.

WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING INSTEAD, AS STAFF HAS ALREADY EXPLAINED TO YOU IS TO CHANGE, UH, OUR SITE FROM A MULTI-USE CORRIDOR AND NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER PRIORITY CORRIDOR TO TRANSITIONAL RESIDENTIAL.

AND THAT IS AS WAS S WAS EXPLAINED TO, UH, BECAUSE WE CAN'T MEET THE, UH, PERCENTAGE OF RETAIL OR NON-RESIDENTIAL THAT THE, THE CODE REQUIRES, UH, IN THE LEANDER, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOAL.

10 DOES TALK ABOUT THE LONG-TERM NEIGHBORHOOD INTEGRITY AND A BALANCED, DIVERSE, UH, MIX OF HOUSING.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH.

UM, I, I BLEW UP THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF, UH, ONE OF THE PAGES, PAGE 86 OUT OF YOUR, YOUR LONG RANGE PLAN AND SUMMARIZED IT.

THE TRANSITIONAL FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY PROVIDES A MORE COMPATIBLE TRANSITION TO LOWER DENSITY.

RESIDENTIAL IT'S INTENDED TO BE DEVELOPED WITH A SLIGHTLY GREATER DENSITY IN HOUSING TYPES, IN THOSE ALLOWS ALLOWED IN NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSIT NEIGHBORHOOD, RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IT, UH, DIDN'T, DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT IN THE RED BOX THERE.

UM, SO ANYHOW, UH, JUST TO SUMMARIZE THINGS, UH, THERE IS A STRONG DEMAND FOR THIS PRODUCT.

UH, WE BELIEVE IT'S AN EXCELLENT TRANSITION FROM THE LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND US TO THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL USES ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH INCLUDE THE HUMANE SOCIETY, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, CROSSFIT, UH, AND, AND OTHER HEAVY COMMERCIAL USES.

AND, UH, WE WILL HAVE A WALL ALONG THE FRONT OF OUR RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.

UH, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE JUST, YOU KNOW, HOUSE AFTER HOUSE LOOKING OUT ONTO CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY, IT'LL BE AN ENCLOSED, UH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THERE'S STRONG DEMAND FOR IT.

WE THINK THAT IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE ANDREW'S FUTURE.

IT PROVIDES CERTAINLY THE HOUSING FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO WORK IN RESTAURANTS, GAS STATIONS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT I KNOW LEANDRA HAS BEEN HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING THOSE PEOPLE THESE DAYS.

SO I HOPE YOU'LL APPROVE IT.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS IT WITH YOU.

TO BUILD TWO FAMILY HOMES.

AT THIS POINT, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

DID ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE? IF NOT, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION MR. MANN.

SO WHY IS, WHY IS IT THE STRAIGHT ZONE? CAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE, UM, MULTI-USE CORRIDOR AND NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, BOTH OFFER THE ABILITY

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NONE OF THE TWO FAMILY HOMES ARE WITHIN THE ACTIVITY CENTER ITSELF, WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THAT AS AN ACCEPTABLE USE.

SO I'M WONDERING, I MEAN, AND I, AND I HEARD YOUR PRESENTATION, ARE WE LOOKING AT THINGS, INDIVIDUAL PROJECT BY PROJECT FROM PERCENTAGES STANDPOINT, WHICH WE DON'T NECESSARILY DO THAT EVERY TIME WE GET A CASE OR ARE WE LOOKING AT THE TOTALITY WITHIN THE ZONE ITSELF AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER USES, THAT'S ALREADY ZONED THAT PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO CHANGE.

THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL THAT'S ALREADY GOING ON WITHIN THAT MULTI-USE AND NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.

SO THE PRIORITY CORRIDOR.

SO I GO BACK TO MY QUESTION, WHY, WHY IS THIS NOT JUST A STRAIGHT ZONING CASE? WHY, WHY I CAN ANSWER THAT? UM, SO THEY COULD APPLY FOR THE TWO FAMILY DISTRICT.

UM, BUT IF THEY DID THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BUILD A STREET NETWORK AND THEN EACH DUPLEX WOULD BE ON ITS OWN LOT.

AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.

THEY WANTED TO DO A CONDO REGIME WHERE THEY HAVE PRIVATE STREETS.

SO IT'S NOT A REQUEST THAT WOULD FIT INTO OUR REGULAR ZONING CATEGORY.

THAT WAS MY ONE QUESTION, MR. CARPENTER IN THE PAPERWORK, IT SAYS HERE THAT THERE'S RIGHT AWAY DEDICATED TO THE FUTURE EXPANSION, ULTIMATE BUILD OVER RONALD REAGAN.

HOW DOES THIS AFFECT RONALD REAGAN AT ALL? WELL, IT SAYS TRANSPORTATION PLAN REQUIREMENTS AS THIS PROPERTY INCLUDES POTENTIAL RIGHT AWAY, DEDICATION FOR THE ULTIMATE BUILD LOAD OF RONALD REAGAN.

CAN'T IMAGINE HOW IT'S A TYPO.

I THINK IT'S FROM A DIFFERENT PROJECT.

SO I THINK IT WAS A MISTAKE IN THE REPORT.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I WONDERED ABOUT THAT AND I WONDERED, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT? I'M GOING TO HAVE 800 FOOT WIDE, A BIG FLYWAY OR SOMETHING? UH, THAT WAS THE ONLY REAL QUESTION.

OH, THESE ARE DEFINITELY NOT LEASE UNITS.

THESE ARE DEFINITELY FOR SALE UNITS, CORRECT? YES.

COMMISSIONER, THESE ARE FOR SALE UNITS.

THAT'S ALSO NOT DICTATED BY THE ZONING SO WE CAN'T REQUIRE EITHER.

THAT'S MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION, MR. HAMPTON.

UM, SO THE INTERIOR LIGHTING THE LIGHTING ON THE INSIDE, I GUESS WE CAN, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT ONE, BUT I THINK THERE'S A WAIVER FOR NO INTERIOR LIGHTING.

IS THAT CORRECT? UH, AS FAR AS INTERIOR LIGHTING GOES, WE WILL LIGHT THE PRIVATE STREETS, BUT WE'LL USE SHOE BOX LIGHTING, WHICH IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT TERM, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, UH, DARK SKY ORDINANCES THAT SAY, WE DON'T WANT THE LIGHT JUST GOING EVERYWHERE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LITERALLY, THEY COME SHOE BOXES.

CAUSE IT'S A BOX OVER THE TOP THAT DIRECTS THE LIGHT DOWN AND THEY'RE LOW, USUALLY 12 FOOT TALL.

SO WE'LL USE THOSE AND, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LIGHT POLLUTION AS A RESULT OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, WHAT'S ALL HAPPENED NOW, MR. STYLES, THE HOUSING THAT IS GOING TO BE UP ON CRYSTAL FALLS, UH, IS IT GOING TO BE FACING THE ROAD OR IS IT GOING TO BE THE DOORS GOING TOWARDS THE REAR? AND I'M, I'M CURIOUS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ACCESS THESE HOUSES AS WELL.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP, IT WOULD BE FACING TOWARDS THE REAR AND THERE W THERE WILL BE TWO DRIVEWAYS IN OFF CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY THAT WILL ACCESS THIS.

THERE WILL BE A WALL.

THE BLUE LINE IS, AND THEN THAT'S THE BACKYARD NEXT TO THE BLUE LINE, THE WALL, IS THAT CORRECT? HOW TALL WILL THE, THE WALL SIX FEET, WHAT KIND OF WALL WOULD BE MASONRY AND IT'LL BE A MATERIAL SIMILAR TO WHAT IS ON THE HOUSES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I HAVE NOTHING ELSE, MR. RYANS.

UH, MY, MY VOTE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT ON THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE A NO.

UM, I THINK THAT THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR AND THE, UM, THE CENTER THAT ARE THERE NOW MAKE MORE SENSE.

I THINK EVEN IF, UH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A MIX BEING ACCEPTABLE THOUGH, ADMITTEDLY, UH, COMMISSIONER, MAN, I WAS A TINY BIT CONFUSED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WHERE YOU, YOU WERE SAYING IN, IN THE CENTER, THE TWO FAMILY WOULD BE ALLOWED, BUT THAT'S STILL ONLY WHAT, 30% OF THAT CENTER.

AND THE 40% IN THE MULTI-USE AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING THE TWO FAMILIES, IT'S NOT IN THE ACTIVITY CENTER, THE ACTIVITY CENTER IS HAVING THEIR COMMERCIAL AND, AND, AND, AND EVEN IN THE, EVEN IN THE CORRIDOR, THE RESIDENTIAL IS SUPPOSED TO BE SUBORDINATE TO THE

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COMMERCIAL HEADS.

THIS IS FOR THE 40%.

OH, THERE IS A MIXED REQUIREMENT IN THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR I THOUGHT WAS AS WELL.

I THINK I HEARD IN THE PRESENTATION THAT IT WAS LIKE A 40% FOR THE, FOR THE MIXED USE CORRIDOR, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ON OUR, YEAH.

SO REGARDLESS, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT RESIDENTIAL IS SUPPOSED TO BE SUBORDINATE TO COMMERCIAL AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY, THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT INTENSE BEFORE OR AFTER THE REQUESTED CPA.

SO I'M GOING TO BE VOTING NO ON THAT, BUT THAT, BUT THAT GOES BACK TO MY QUESTION THOUGH, IS, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT EACH INDIVIDUAL CASE? SO AS A LANDOWNER COMES, COMES UP, ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT EACH INDIVIDUAL, ONE NEEDS TO BE A 70, 30 OR 60 40, OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IT IN THE AGGREGATE FOR THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR? IT NEEDS TO BE THE 60 40, RIGHT.

BECAUSE, AND BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S, I MEAN, WE GET INTO THIS WHOLE THING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND IT BECOMES LIKE FIRST THEN GET GETS RIGHTS.

BUT, BUT, AND, AND, UM, AND I'VE BEEN AGAINST DOING SOME OF THESE THINGS IN THE PAST BECAUSE OF YOU'RE KIND OF PIGEONHOLING OTHER LANDOWNERS INTO BEING A CERTAIN TYPE IN ORDER TO MEET THAT PERCENTAGES.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER USES THAT ARE GOING ON WITHIN THE CORRIDOR AND THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER THEY'RE ALREADY SET, AND MOST OF THAT IS COMMERCIAL.

SO I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT WE'RE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS AND WE'RE MEETING THE INTENT.

THE ONLY REASON THAT, THAT IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT ZONING CASE FROM WHAT, UM, MS. GRIFFIN WAS TELLING ME IS BECAUSE THEY WOULD JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD IT THE WAY THEY WANT TO BUILD IT.

SO I'M KIND OF FOR IT, FOR THAT REASON, BECAUSE IT, BECAUSE IT DOES MEET THE ACCEPTABLE USES OF THE, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

I, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT WHEN YOU SAY, IF YOU TAKE OUT THE PERCENTAGES FOR A SECOND, WHICH IS A STICKING POINT FOR ALL OF US THAT WE RUN INTO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT MORE IN EACH ONE OF THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THESE THINGS THAT POINTS TO HOW THESE PLACES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SORT OF DESIGNED AND, AND PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO INTERACT WITH THEM.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT YOU ULTIMATELY GIVE HERE IS EFFECTIVELY A SINGLE USE NEIGHBORHOOD, A NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAS, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS KIND OF A , UH, LIBERAL COMMERCIAL THING ON THE EDGE, WHICH DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S CREATING A COHESIVE SENSE OF PLACE.

AND I THINK THAT MOST OF THESE CENTERS AND THESE CORRIDORS ARE DESIGNED TO DO THAT.

AND I THINK THIS FAILS AT THAT REAL QUICK, UM, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT DOES SPEAK TO THE, THE 40%.

UM, IT SAYS THE RESIDENTIAL USE MAY NOT EXCEED 40% OF THE PROJECT OR AREA WITHIN THE MUCC AREA, AND SHE'LL BE COMBINED WITH THE COMMERCIAL USE.

AND WHEN YOU READ THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN, THE INTENT WAS TO ENCOURAGE COMMERCIAL.

AND LIKE MARSHALL WAS SAYING TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL AS A SUBORDINATE USE ON INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS NOW AS PART OF THE CENTER AS A WHOLE, CORRECT? YEAH.

I GET THAT.

BUT WHEN WE START DOING IT AT, IN INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS AND YOU'RE CROSSING MULTIPLE, UM, LAND USE CATEGORIES, WE'RE, WE ARE FORCING LANDOWNERS TO DO THINGS THAT REALLY, IT'S NOT THAT WASN'T OUR INTENT FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO BEGIN WITH.

IT'S, IT'S THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CREATE A MIX OF USES IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE, I GET THAT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN THE AGGREGATE, INSTEAD OF THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECT, YOU'RE GOING TO GET THOSE MIX OF USES.

IF YOU DO IT PER PROJECT, YOU'RE GOING TO GETTING A PIECE OF THIS AND A PIECE OF THAT.

AND A PIECE OF THAT FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL, ONE, INSTEAD OF A LARGE TWO FAMILY PROPERTY HERE FOR THIS ONE AND A LARGE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN ANOTHER, INSTEAD OF A SMALLER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN A SMALLER.

NOW, NOW I TAKE YOUR POINT.

I GET, I ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YOU'RE SAYING, IF YOU ZOOM OUT, YOU GET THE MIX OF USES.

THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU TAKE THAT ARGUMENT TO ITS LOGICAL EXTREME, WELL, THE CITY'S ALREADY MIXED USE ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE BOARD.

IF YOU ZOOM OUT FAR ENOUGH, YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE A MIX OF USES.

THE IDEA IS TO CREATE A MIX OF USES IN AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE USE OF ALL OF THESE THINGS TOGETHER.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT FROM THE CITY AS A WHOLE, AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

IF YOU TAKE IT TO THE EXTREME, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE CITY AS A MIXED JUICE, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT EACH INDIVIDUAL AREA.

I'M NOT COMPARING THIS PROJECT TO THE ONE THAT WE, I JUST TALKED ABOUT FROM A CITY COUNCIL FROM THE OTHER NIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S TWO SEPARATE AREAS, TWO SEPARATE ACTIVITY CENTERS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE.

SO THOSE PERCENTAGES DON'T MEAN ANYTHING TO THIS AREA.

W WELL, YOUR, YOUR, THE POINT THAT YOU'RE MAKING IS THAT BECAUSE THERE'S COMMERCIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, AND THERE'S TONS OF COMMERCIALS ALREADY ZONED OVER THERE.

THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT IN THE AGGREGATE, IT IS A MIX.

IS THAT THE POINT THAT YOU'RE EFFECTIVELY MAKING SENSE, BUT THEN THE SAME, UM, ACTIVITY CENTER, OR SORRY, MULTI-USE CORRIDOR AND NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AS THIS PROPERTY.

THAT'S THE NEIGHBORHOODS NEIGHBORHOODS, RIGHT? UM,

IF IT WAS IN ANOTHER ONE, LIKE I SAID, WHAT WE HAD JUST TALKED ABOUT, NO, IT DOESN'T IMPACT THIS PROPERTY OR THE PERCENTAGES.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT MUCH OF AN AGGREGATE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT LOOKING AT THIS SPECIFIC, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ACTIVITY CENTER.

I THINK ABOUT THE CORRIDOR FOR A MOMENT, THE CORRIDOR RUNS ALL THE WAY DOWN.

CRYSTAL FALLS.

IF, IF DO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU SAY, LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT THE SEGMENT.

YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SAY BETWEEN RONALD REAGAN AND THE TOLL ROAD? IF YOU COULD BUY THAT LOGIC, YOU COULD STICK ALL THE COMMERCIAL ON ONE SIDE

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NEAR ONE OF THE THREE.

AND YOU COULD PUT ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE NEAR RONALD REAGAN.

AND IT WOULD STILL BE A MIX BECAUSE IN THE AGGREGATE OF THIS ONE SECTION OF THE CORRIDOR, YOU'VE GOT A 50 50 MIX OR 70, 30 MIX OR WHATEVER.

AND THE MARKET SHOULD DICTATE THAT NOT US.

I THINK ONE THING WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT HERE TOO, IF THIS PROJECT WAS A 50 50 MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

WE'RE TAUGHT, I THINK THIS IS CLOSER TO 10% COMMERCIAL AND 90% RESIDENTIAL ALSO KNOWN AS TOKEN COMMERCIAL, RIGHT.

AND HOW MANY LOTS DO WE HAVE IN THE END OR WHERE WE HAVE 90% OF RESIDENTIAL BUILT-OUT AND 10% COMMERCIAL.

THAT'S A VACANT LOT.

SO IS IT A TOKEN USED? AND IT'S NOT THAT I DISLIKE THE PROJECT.

I THINK IT'S A PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT.

MY QUESTION IS, DOES IT NEED TO BE BUILT AT THIS LOCATION WHERE WE HAVE COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET, UM, IN AN AREA OFF LISTS WHERE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE GONE UP AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT COMMERCIAL THERE.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

UH, THE, ALL THE RESIDENTS WOULD REBEL AGAINST THAT.

AND I THINK WE'RE CARVING OUT A BIG CHUNK OF PRIME COMMERCIAL LAND AND USING IT FOR RESIDENTIAL WHILE THE RESIDENTIAL IS MUCH IN NEED.

UH, I JUST THINK THERE'S OTHER PLACES WHERE IT COULD BE BUILT.

WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED HERE IS THAT EACH PARCEL IS COMING UP, ARE DIFFERENT SIZES.

IF EVERY LOT THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS THE SAME SIZE AND WE APPLIED THIS MIX, THEN IT WOULD MAKE SENSE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BIGGER LOT, LOTS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SMALLER PROJECTS SO THAT IF WE APPLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ON THE MIX, AS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH TO ME IS A VERY DEEPLY FLAWED INSTRUMENT.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL LITTLE KINGDOMS THAT MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.

THE QUESTION BEFORE US TONIGHT IS DOES THIS WORK FOR THE CITY? UH, THE OTHER QUESTION IS, DOES IT SET A PRECEDENCE? WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE SET.

UM, IT'S A GOOD PROJECT QUESTION.

IS, IS IT THE BEST PROJECT FOR THE CITY OR NOT? DOES IT WORK? BECAUSE IF WE WANT THE MIX, ITS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS IT DOES.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS COMING TO US ALL UP AND DOWN THAT CORRIDOR.

AND THIS WOULD PROBABLY NOT WORK IN SOME OF THEM, IT WOULD WORK GREAT IN OTHERS.

AND WE'RE KIND OF BOXING OURSELVES IN THERE TOO.

WE NEED TO ASK, IS THIS THE BEST USE OF THIS LAND OR NOT? WHETHER IT IS OR NOT IS FOR Y'ALL TO DECIDE AND DECIDE.

YES IT IS.

AND LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND I SAT ON THAT ONE.

I THINK IT'S A DEEPLY FLAWED INSTRUMENT.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT.

I THINK THERE ARE VERY COMPELLING ARGUMENTS ON BOTH SIDES.

UH, I WOULD PREFER THAT EVERY MAJOR ARTERIAL AND MINOR ARTERIOLAR ARTERIAL ROAD THAT IS POSSIBLE SHOULD HAVE PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL.

I I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT PUTTING HOUSES RIGHT ON CRYSTAL FALLS, BUT THEY ARE FACING BACKWARDS AND THERE IS A WALL THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD FLIP A COIN ON THIS TO SOME EXTENT AND WE WOULD MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION AND WE'D MAKE THE WRONG DECISION.

I THINK OUR REALLY OUR DECISION COMES DOWN TO, IS THIS THE BEST USE FOR THE CITY OR IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO? AND THIS GENTLEMAN HERE CAN DO AS WELL.

THAT WOULD WORK FOR HIM.

AS FAR AS THE PERCENTAGES, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

OH, IT'D BE NICE IF THE ENTIRE CITY WAS LAID OUT IN NICE, NEAT BLOCKS, LIKE SIM CITY.

AND WE COULD DRAW THE NICE LITTLE BOXES TO PUT COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AND ALL, ALL THE CORRECT PLACES.

BUT REALITY IS OUR LOT LINES ARE LIKE A BOWL OF SPAGHETTI STREWN ALL OVER A PLATE.

UM, AND WE'VE TRIED TO DESIGNATE, UM, AREAS WHERE WE NEED THE COMMERCIAL AND AREAS WHERE WE WANTED RESIDENTIAL.

AND THIS IS TAKING A CHUNK, UH, OUT OF PRIME, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE ALONG CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY.

AND IT'S MAKING IT RESIDENTIAL.

UM, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY IN THE ACTIVITY CENTER, BUT IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

AND IT'S WITHIN THE, THAT THE MIXED USE CORRIDOR.

IT'S THE SECOND CIRCLE.

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THEY CONSIDERED THAT THE FRONT OF THIS PROJECT IS COMMERCIAL AND THE REST OF IT IS THIS.

I REALIZED THAT MAY RUN INTO THE DREADED ACTIVITY CENTER, BUT DOES THAT WORK? I THINK IT WOULD WORK BETTER WITH RESIDENTIAL BEHIND IT AND COMMERCIAL IN FRONT OF IT.

AND WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO YOU? THAT'S THE OTHER QUESTION? UM, UM, WHAT IS THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT WAS TO THE NORTHEAST OF THAT? UH, STORAGE.

UM, SO IF YOU GO TO THE AREA, WE COULD SEE IT.

THAT'S A PLEASANT HILL, SELF STORAGE, I THINK.

BUT NEXT TO THE SELF STORAGE AND THE ADJOINING JUST TO THE WEST WOULD DO WELL FOR COMMERCIAL IN MY OPINION.

AND WE'RE NOT THE ONES BUILDING THIS AND TO HAVE YOUR OPINION ON THIS AS WELL, WE DON'T WANT THIS TO DEVOLVE INTO A HOSPITAL DISCUSSION.

WE KIND OF LIKE TO GO BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE WE WANT YOU TO DO SOMETHING AND WE WANT TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HATES YOU HERE.

WE DON'T WANT YOU TO GO AWAY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT A WAY THAT WE CAN ANSWER FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

AND I APPRECIATE THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE, UH YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT'S HARD, UH, A SPOT BASIS TO MEET ALL OF THE HARD LIMITS.

SOMETIMES THE IDEA HERE WAS, UH, WAS TO BUILD A, UH, A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY THAT OPERATES LIKE I'LL CALL IT A LOWER, IT'S A CONDOMINIUM PROJECTS.

THERE'S BEEN STRONG, STRONG DEMAND AT ONE POINT A YEAR AGO.

THEY HAD, EVERYBODY WAS SPEAKING TO THESE UNITS.

UM, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD BE SOLD OUT UH, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW.

CENTER IS 6,800 SQUARE FEET.

IT'S NOT I'M SORRY.

OH, SO NO ONE HEARD ANYTHING THAT I SAID EXCEPT FOR THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.

HUH? THANK YOU.

UM, I CAN SEE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME, UH, LOCAL FOOD SERVICES PLACE THERE, UH, YOU KNOW, A CONVENIENCE STORE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL, WHAT ALL WILL GO INTO THAT CENTER, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IT'LL GET BUILT AND IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE OCCUPIED.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OWNERS PUT A LOT OF TIME IN, IN THEIR OWN THOUGHT.

THERE THEY'RE REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS AND THEY PUT THEIR TIME INTO WHAT THEY THOUGHT WOULD BE THE BEST USE.

AND THEY DIDN'T BUY THIS LAND AT A, AT A DISCOUNT EITHER.

THEY PAID WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE TOP DOLLAR FOR IT.

SO, UH, THEY FEEL STRONG THAT THIS IS THE PLAN THAT, UH, THEY WANT TO CARRY FORWARD.

WELL, AND, AND JUST TO ALLEVIATE YOUR CONCERN, SIR, THAT REGARDLESS OF HOW WE VOTE TONIGHT, WHETHER, WHETHER THE COMMISSION APPROVES IT OR DENIES IT, IT'S STILL GOING TO COUNCIL.

RIGHT? COUNCIL HAS THE ULTIMATE DECISION.

WE COULDN'T ANYWAY, BECAUSE OF, UH, WILEY.

WE'RE NOT THE LAST SAY, SO COUNCIL HAS THE ULTIMATE DECISION, BUT WHAT I WAS, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY AND GIVE ME ONE SECOND TO TALK TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HERE.

BUT, UM, WHEN I WAS TRYING TO SAY EARLIER, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS EXHIBIT HERE, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF HAND DRAWING GOING ON.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS TINY SECTION OF THIS ENTIRE CORRIDOR HERE.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD PUT TWO FAMILY ALL DOWN THE ENTIRE,

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UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME RESIDENTIAL ON THE SIDE.

I GET THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I WISH WE HAD MORE DATA ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT FROM A PERCENTAGES STANDPOINT TODAY OR, OR, OR EVEN PROPOSED, UH, KIND OF LIKE WE DID WITH THE PREVIOUS CASE THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IN THE OTHER ACTIVITY CENTER.

AND IT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

DATA-DRIVEN, UM, DECISION-MAKING KIND OF PROCESS HERE, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT, CAUSE AGAIN, I, I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT IT'S RIGHT TO, UM, TO TELL SOMEONE THAT NOW YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR 13 ACRES AND YOU HAVE TO DIVIDE IT INTO 60%, THIS AND 40% THIS, BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, IF YOU ONLY HAVE THREE ACRES, YOU'VE GOT TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING.

RIGHT? WHAT APPLIES TO ONE HAS TO APPLY TO ALL AND IT HAS TO BE SCALABLE AND IT'S NOT THAT LOGIC IS NOT SCALABLE WELL OR REVERSIBLE, I GUESS.

I DUNNO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SCALABLE WHEN YOU'RE GOING THE OTHER WAY.

UM, SO, SO, SO WHEN I LOOK AT IT IN TOTALITY WHILE I DO WISH IT WAS A STRAIGHT ZONING CASE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THESE ARE CENTRAL USES BETWEEN THE, BETWEEN WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR.

I GET WHAT, WHAT, UM, MS. GRIFFIN WAS TELLING ME EARLIER, WHICH IS WHY I'M MORE INCLINED TO BE FOR THIS THAN AGAINST IT.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, LIKE I SAID, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO UP HERE TONIGHT, IT'S GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ULTIMATE SAY IN IT.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS LYNN AND I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER HERE.

JUST WANT TO, UH, THANK YOU EVERYBODY LOOKING AT THIS.

UM, I, UH, WHEN DAVID AND I WALK ON THIS ONE, WE TELL PEOPLE, THIS IS A HOUSING WE CAN BUILD, UH, UH, FOR A FAMILY, ACTUARIES ALONE, 300,000.

THERE'S MANY PEOPLE ASKING US WHEN THIS IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE.

AND I ALSO REPRESENT MY CLIENT AND THE WHO, UH, BRING, GONNA BRING 350 JOBS, TOTALLY HINDER.

IT'S A CHALLENGE I'VE COMPANY.

AND I'VE BEEN TALKING TO HIM, HE'S ONE OF THE HIRES, 300 PEOPLE COMING TO LEANDER.

WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO LIVE? WE NEED TO OFFER SOMETHING AFFORDABLE.

I LIVE IN AUSTIN SINCE 1993, ALMOST 30 YEARS ENJOY THE CD GROWS, ENJOYING THE ERA GROW, BUT IT'S GETTING REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE FOR MANY PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE.

UH, JUST, UH, WE WERE PASSIONATE ABOUT, ABOUT THIS AND SO PROVIDE SOME PEOPLE HAVE A AFFORDABLE PLACE.

THEY CAN LIVE A CALL HOME.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO JUST MY COMMENT.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I, I WANT TO SAY, I THINK IT IS A MUCH NEEDED PROJECT, AS FAR AS THE PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BRING.

UM, IF IT WERE ANYWHERE ELSE, LOCATION-WISE, I WOULDN'T BE A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR IT.

MY, MY ONE CONCERN IS WE HAVE A FINITE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL IN OUR TOWN AND, UM, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WE'RE NOT USING IT FOR THE BEST USE OF THE LAND, TO THE LOCATION.

AND AGAIN, CITY COUNCILS IS THE ULTIMATE DECISION-MAKING ON THAT.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE ITEM OR MOTION TO APPROVE? WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN A MINUTE RIGHT NOW.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MOTION BY COMMISSIONER.

MEHAN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STYLES, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

THREE OF THE THREE SPLIT.

THE MOTION FAILS.

SO THE ALTERNATIVE MOTION IS GOING TO BE SPLIT TO, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION IF THE MOTION FAILS, IT'S ESSENTIAL.

OTHER THAN A DENIAL.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE.

IT JUST MEANS THAT WE HAVEN'T, WE'RE SUBMITTING IT WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION, WHICH MIGHT BE WHERE WE'RE STUCK.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

SO CAN WE TAKE ACTION ON THE ZONING CASE THEN T YOU CAN'T APPROVE THE ZONING CASE SINCE IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN.

AGAIN, THIS MOVES FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO CITY COUNCIL WILL BE THE ULTIMATE DECISION ON THAT, AND YOU MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE NO ACTION ON THE ZONING.

YOU CAN DO THAT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TAKE.

NO ACTION.

ON THE ZONING CASE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO TAKE NO ACTION ON THE ZONING CASE.

SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES, UNANIMOUSLY HAVE QUESTION, MS. GRIFFIN, THE SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE, WOULD THAT BE SENT TO COUNCIL? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

NUMBER 15, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING IT'S OR ACTUAL REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 Z 0 28.

UNTO AGENDA, ITEM,

[15. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-028 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFS-2-B (Single-Family Suburban) and Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to GC-3-A (General Commercial) on one parcel of land approximately 5.352 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R031250; and more commonly known as 10935 E. Crystal Falls Pkwy, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-028 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING

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OF INTERIM SFS, TWO DASH B SINGLE FAMILY, SUBURBAN THE INTERIM SFR ONE DASH B SINGLE FAMILY WORLD TWO G C3, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 5.328 5.35, TWO ACRES.

MORE OR LESS THAN SIZE AND MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1 0 9 35 EAST CRYSTAL FALLS, PARKWAY, LEANDRA, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING.

THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.

THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY TO GC DASH THREE EIGHT IN ORDER TO CONTINUE AND EXPAND THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL USES ON THE PROPERTY.

THE CURRENT USES WERE EXISTING PRIOR TO THE ANNEXATION AND ARE CONSIDERED TO BE NONCONFORMING USES.

UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF RIDGE MAR LANDING.

AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY HUMANE SOCIETY TO THE EAST IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME TO THE WEST IS THE CRYSTAL FALLS COMMERCE CENTER.

THIS PROPERTY CONTAINS SCATTERED TREES ACROSS THE LOT AND HAS ACCESS ON THE EAST CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY.

THE FRONT, THE FRONT PORTION OF THE LOT, APPROXIMATELY 450 FEET FROM THE ROAD IS UNDEVELOPED.

THE BACK PORTION OF THE LOT, UH, APPROXIMATELY 420 FEET IS DEVELOPED AS CRYSTAL FALLS.

UH, OUR I'M SORRY, BELL CRYSTAL PROPERTIES, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF THREE SEPARATE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND ASSOCIATED PARKING.

THE BACK PORTION OF THE LOT IS DEVELOPED.

UM, YEAH, THE, UH, OKAY.

SO, UH, NO DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS WERE HELD, UM, WITH STAFF ON THIS PROJECT NOTICES WERE MAILED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

AND THE AGENT REACHED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, WITHIN 500 FEET TO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS WERE HELD VIA ZOOM, BUT, UH, NONE OF THE NOTIFIED OWNERS ATTENDED THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.

A CONTACT LIST IS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH INFORMATION, UH, PROVIDED TO US, PLEASE SEE THE FULL REPORT, UM, FROM THE APPLICANT ATTACHED.

UM, THE PROPERTY HAS FRONTAGE ALONG EAST CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY, AND THE CURRENT USES WERE GRANDFATHERED AT THE TIME OF ANNEXATION, THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WOULD ALLOW FOR A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE.

THIS IS ALL I HAVE FOR THIS CASE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST LET ME KNOW.

AFTER FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION IS GRIFFIN.

UH, DAVID SINGLETON FOR THE APPLICANT, DANNY BELL, AS STAFF STATED IN THEIR PRESENTATION.

THIS PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED.

IT WAS DEVELOPED AS IT SITS TODAY.

THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED WITH COMMERCIAL USES.

THERE ARE NO, UM, SPECIFIC INTENDED USES TODAY, BUT WE ARE INTERESTED IN ZONING COMMITTEE CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

AND IT DOES FACILITATE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

SO THERE'S NOTHING IMMINENT THERE TODAY, BUT, UM, FOR THEM TO EVEN PULL A PERMIT, TO DO ANYTHING TO THE BUILDINGS IN THE BACK, WE NEED THE ZONE CONSISTENT WITH THE USE AND THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY TO DO.

AT THIS POINT, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DOES I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? IF NOT, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER HINES.

THIS IS GRIFFIN, THE SITE COMPONENT ON THIS, THE GC THREE PSYCH COMPONENTS.

UM, DOES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPEAK TO ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT PSYCH COMPONENT? AND IN SOME INSTANCES WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, THE, THE LAND USES, LIKE IF IT IT'S DISCOURAGING THINGS LIKE GAS STATIONS, WE WOULD TALK ABOUT PSYCH COMPONENT, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY RESTRICT IT.

AND THE GRANDFATHER USES THAT THIS COMES INTO COMPLIANCE WITH DO THEY ALL NEED THE TYPE THREE SECOND POINT? OKAY.

SO TYPE THREE IS MORE, UM, THEY HAVE OUTDOOR STORAGE ON THIS PROPERTY.

YEAH, IT'S ON THE OTHER ONE.

THIS ONE IS THE BELL DRILLING BUILDING.

SO IT DOES COMPLY.

NO, I, I DON'T REALLY, I GUESS THIS IS JUST KIND OF LIKE THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE DID BEFORE.

COMMISSIONER STYLES, THEY'RE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

I THINK GENERAL COMMERCIALS.

WHAT THIS NEEDS TO BE ZONED.

I HAVE NOTHING ELSE.

WE TRAPPED HIM.

NO QUESTIONS, MR. CARPENTER.

UH,

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I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE HAPPEN.

SO NO PROBLEMS, MR. MAYOR, ALL ABOUT LANDOWNER RIGHTS.

I WISH WE WOULD JUST ANNEX IT AND GIVE IT BACK TO THEM.

THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, BUT WE CAN'T.

SO WE'RE HERE, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND.

UM, I'M GOOD WITH IT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES, UNANIMOUSLY, MOVE ON TO

[16. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-029 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFS-2-B (Single-Family Suburban) and Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to GC-3-A (General Commercial) and GC-5-A (General Commercial) on one parcel of land approximately 2.92 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R051556; and more commonly known as 10948 E. Crystal Falls Pkwy, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-029 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

AGENDA.

ITEM, NUMBER 16, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING INTO DIRECTION REGARDING ZONING 21 0 29 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM S F S TWO DASH B SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN AND IN TERM S F R ONE DASH B SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL TO GC THREE, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 2.9, TWO ACRES, MORE OR LESS IN SIZE AND MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1 0 9, 4 8 EAST CRYSTAL FALLS, PARKWAY LEANDER, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.

THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY TO GC DASH THREE EIGHT, GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND GC DASH FIVE EIGHT GENERAL COMMERCIAL IN ORDER TO CONTINUE AND EXPAND THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL USES ON THEIR PROPERTY.

THE CURRENT USES WERE EXISTING PRIOR TO THE ANNEXATION AND ARE CONSIDERED TO BE NONCONFORMING USES.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF TWO UNDEVELOPED PARCELS, AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF AN UNDEVELOPED PORTION OF CRYSTAL FALLS BUSINESS PARK TO THE EAST, AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME INTO THE WEST IS UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY.

THIS PROPERTY IS MOSTLY DEVELOPED AND CONTAINS TREES ON THE FRONT OF THE LOT.

THE FRONT PORTION OF THE LOT INCLUDES ACCESS ONTO EAST CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY, UM, SOME PARKING AREA AND TWO STRUCTURES, INCLUDING THE MAIN BUILDING FOR ITS ENVIRONMENTAL.

UH, THE REST OF THE PROPERTY IS USED AS OUTDOOR STORAGE.

NO DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD WITH STAFF ON THIS PROJECT.

GNOSIS WERE MAILED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS.

WITHIN 200 FEET IN THE AGENT DID REACH OUT TO ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF PROPERTIES OWNED A SINGLE FAMILY IN ANY OTHER, UH, ANY PROPERTIES USED A SINGLE FAMILY USES WITHIN 500 FEET.

TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS WERE HELD VIA ZOOM.

WHEN NEIGHBOR REQUESTED AN IN-PERSON MEETING ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 5TH, AT 3:15 PM TO DISCUSS DUST ISSUES.

THE APPLICANT EXPLAINED THAT THE DUST ISSUE SHOULD BE RESOLVED AS DRIVEWAY IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE ON SITE.

A CONTACT LIST IS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US BY THE APPLICANT.

UH, THE PROPERTY HAS FRONTAGE AGAIN ONTO EAST CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY, AND THE CURRENT USES WERE GRANDFATHERED AT THE TIME OF ANNEXATION.

THIS ZONING CHANGE WOULD BRING THE CURRENT USES INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE AND ALLOW FOR FUTURE EXPANSION.

THIS IS ALL I HAVE FOR THIS CASE, AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS.

THANKS, SIR.

I'M ASSUMING SAME APPLICANT.

YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS ONE AGAIN, DAVID SINGLETON FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, WHICH IS UTS ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, AS STAFF SUGGESTED THIS BUSINESS EXISTED HERE PRIOR TO ANNEXATION, UM, THE, THE USES HAVE BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE THERE A LANDSCAPE COMPANY THAT THEY, THEY OPERATED OUT OF THIS FACILITY.

UM, UNLIKE THE OTHER TRACK, THEY DO HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT WILL REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT.

AND SO IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PULL A BUILDING PERMIT, WE NEED TO GET IT ZONED CONSISTENT WITH ITS USE, WHICH FORTUNATELY IS AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH YOUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

UM, AND SO ANSWER, BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE THE DIFFERENT COMPONENT THAT, UM, THEN THE OTHER ZONING CASES, THE FIVE EIGHT IN THE BACK IS I THINK IT'S 300 FEET BEHIND AND IT'S BEHIND BOTH BUILDINGS, BUT THEIR OUTDOOR STORAGE IS PRIMARILY PLANT MATERIAL.

THEY ARE A LANDSCAPING CONTRACTOR.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN IN CONSTRUCTING IS SOME COVERED PARKING FOR THEIR EQUIPMENT.

SO THEY DO STORE SOME EQUIPMENT IN THEIR YARD.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO DO IS, IS SHELTER THAT EQUIPMENT, AS WELL AS BUILD SOME SHADE STRUCTURES THAT WHEN THEY HAVE PLANT MATERIAL IN THE YARD, IT'S SCREENING FROM THE SUN.

AND SO, UM, IN ORDER TO PULL THOSE PERMITS, WE NEED TO GET ITS OWN APPROPRIATELY.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE AND NOT, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER HINES.

THIS POINT WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK SENT WISH

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W WHAT I DO THINK IS THAT IT'S QUITE GOOD THAT THE TYPE FIVE PSYCH COMPONENT IS IN THE BACK.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THIS AND THAT THEY DIDN'T TRY AND PUSH THAT ALL THE WAY TO THE FRONT, I THINK IS A VERY COMMENDABLE DECISION TO MAKE.

SO THIS IS A STRAIGHTFORWARD, SIMPLE.