[1. Open Meeting.]
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TODAY IS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 21ST, 2021.
AND THIS IS THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL CITY.
[2. Roll Call.]
WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER KATHERINE BATTALION PARKER HERE.COUNCIL MEMBER ASKED ME MATTKE LEN GLORIA HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER, JASON SHAW COUNCIL MEMBER, NICOLE THOMPSON, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS.
SO NICK MAYOR PRO TEM, BECKY ROSS HERE MAY OR CHRISTINE'S THAT REQUESTS HERE.
[3. Convene into Executive Session pursuant to: (1) Section 551.072, to deliberate the acquisition of easements from Gabriels Overlook POA located in the Greenleaf Fisk Survey Abstract No. 5 for the Lively Tract Waterline project; and (2) Section 551.071, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05, Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding right-of-way regulation and development regulations. Reconvene into open session to take action as deemed appropriate in the City Council's discretion regarding: (1) easements for the Lively Tract Waterline project; and (2) right of way regulations and development regulations.]
INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO ONE SECTION 5 5 1 0.072 TO DELIBERATE.THE ACQUISITION OF EASEMENTS FROM GABRIEL'S OVERLOOK, POA LOCATED IN THE GREENLEAF FISK SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER FIVE, BUT THE LIVELY TRACKED WATERLINE PROJECT AND TO SECTION 5, 5, 1 0.07 ONES, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND SECTION 1.05 TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING RIGHT AWAY REGULATION AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
AND WE ARE CONVENING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6 0 1.
WE ARE RECONVENING INTO OPEN SESSION AT 6:36 PM.
PURSUANT TO THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, UM, TO TAKE ACTION AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY CITY COUNCIL.
NUMBER ONE, EASEMENTS FOR THE LIVELY TRACT WATERLINE PROJECT.
DO I HAVE TO ASK IF THERE'S A MOTION IT'S SO LOUD ABOUT IT? UH, PRO TIME, DO WE HAVE A MOTION WE DO TO AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE OF ONE EASEMENT FROM GABRIEL'S OVERLOOKED, POA AND THE GREENLEAF GREENLEAF FISK SURVEY ABSTRACT, NUMBER FIVE FOR THE LIVELY TRACK WATERLINE PROJECT AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO, ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AND TO RIGHT AWAY REGULATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, PRO TEM, IS THERE A EMOTION? NO ACTION.
WITH THAT, THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP IS ADJOURNED AT 6 37.
[4. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.]
OKAY.TODAY IS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 21ST, 2021.
AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LEANDRA CITY COUNCIL, REVEREND JOANNA FONTAINE CRAWFORD MINISTER OF LIVE OAK UNITARIAN UNIVERSALIST CHURCH.
WE'LL BE PROVIDING THE INVOCATION, FOLLOWING THE INVOCATION.
PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN A SPIRIT OF PRAYER, SPIRIT OF LIFE, GOD, OF OUR DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDINGS, WHICH WE CALL BY MANY NAMES OR NO NAME, BUT WHO CALLS EACH OF US BELOVED.
WE LIFT UP THIS PRAYER IN A TIME WHEN WHAT IS AMPLIFIED SO OFTEN ARE THE VOICES OF ANGER AND DISCORD.
MAY OUR HEARTS BE SOFTENED SO THAT WE MAY LISTEN TO ONE ANOTHER WITH LOVING CURIOSITY, MAY WE HAVE THE COURAGE TO SPEAK CLEARLY ABOUT WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE IMPORTANT, TRUSTING THAT OTHERS WILL DO THE SAME.
LET US CELEBRATE ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT LIVED EXPERIENCES THAT WE BRING INTO THIS ROOM AND THE RICH DIVERSITY OF THIS COMMUNITY, WHOM WE REPRESENT, MAY OUR FEARS BE TRANSFORMED INTO HOPE, MAY CREATIVITY AND IMAGINATION BE BOUNTIFUL TO RESPOND TO OUR CHALLENGES, MAY LOVE BE THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE FOR OUR DECISIONS.
AND FOREMOST MAY OUR KNOWLEDGE THAT LIFE IS FRAGILE AND A GIFT.
FILL US WITH GRATITUDE AND MAY OUR GRATITUDE TAKE FORM IN GENEROSITY TO ONE ANOTHER.
AND THE PEOPLE WE SERVE AND THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS SACRED AND TRUE.
AND BLESS IT BE THANK YOU, REVEREND CITY,
[5. Roll Call.]
SECRETARY CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER KATHERINE BATTALION PARKER HERE.COUNCIL MEMBER
COUNCIL MEMBER, NICOLE THOMPSON, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER, CHRIS
COUNCIL IS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS.
[6. Public comments on items not listed in the agenda. Public comments on items listed in the agenda will be heard at the time each item is discussed by Council. [All comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual.]]
NON AGENDA ITEM, PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.I WILL CALL ON SPEAKERS PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE AGENDA ITEM AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED COMMENTS VIA THE WEBSITE WILL ONLY HAVE POSITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD.
ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED
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WITH COUNCIL AND WILL BE MADE PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD FOR STEP.GOOD EVENING, MS. SPONSLER PLEASES YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UH, OLIVIA SPAWN SELLER FOR TWO HERNANDEZ LOOP, LEANDER, TEXAS.
SO I WANT TO START A ONCE A MONTH STARGAZING EVENT AT ROBIN BLEDSOE PARK, UM, DURING HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, AND A LOT OF MY FRIENDS HAVE TOLD ME THIS TOO.
UH, I DISCOVERED THE JOY OF LOOKING AT THE STARS.
UM, THE STRUGGLE IS REALLY FINDING A GOOD PLACE TO DO THAT WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE SKY.
UM, YOU CAN GO TO YOUR BACKYARD, BUT THERE ARE ALWAYS POWER LINES AND TREES AND SUCH IN THE WAY.
UM, AND THE BEST PLACE I'VE FOUND SO FAR IS TO GO TO A PARK.
CURRENTLY I'M WORKING WITH THE AUSTIN ASTRONOMICAL SOCIETY TO, UH, HOST THIS EVENT SO THAT IT CAN BE COMPLETELY FREE, UM, WITH VOLUNTEERS FROM THEIR ORGANIZATION.
UM, AND THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT HELP.
UM, THIS WOULD BE A SAFE PLACE FOR TEENAGERS TO GO AND HAVE ENTERTAINMENT.
IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR FAMILIES AND KIDS, UM, AND COUPLES EVEN.
UM, MY CURRENT PLAN IS TO OPEN FROM SEVEN TO NINE WITH JUST STARGAZING, LAYING ON A BLANKET, LOOKING UP AT THE STARS, JUST RELAXING.
AND THEN FROM NINE TO 10, I WANT TO HAVE A SMALL LESSON WITH A TELESCOPE AND, UM, A TEACHER TO COME OUT AND TEACH A LITTLE BIT.
SO PEOPLE CAN KIND OF BRING THAT KNOWLEDGE HOME.
UM, IF I NEED YOU, I CAN BE FLEXIBLE WITH THE LOCATION AND NOT SET, UM, ROBIN BLEDSOE, UM, AND MOVING FORWARD, I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS AND PARKS AND RECREATION TO FIND A DATE AND TIME FOR A TRIAL RUN WITH YOU GUYS AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE IT IN ACTION.
STYLES, PLEASE LIST YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
STYLE'S 41 80 HIGHWAY 180 3, LEANDER, TEXAS.
THAT HAIR COLOR OF OLIVIA'S IS MANDATORY FOR ALL MY EMPLOYEES.
I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT, UH, 20 YEARS AGO WE WROTE A COOKBOOK.
KENNETH CRAVEN, THE FORMER MAYOR WAS IN CHARGE OF THE FINANCES.
EVERYBODY THAT HAS WRITTEN THIS BOOK EXCEPT ME HAS PASSED AWAY.
THE BANK TURNED THE MONEY OVER TO THE UNCLAIMED PROPERTIES OF THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR A YEAR.
WE TRIED TO GET IT BACK, COULD NOT GET IT BACK.
GOD BLESS BRIDGET BRANDT AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
WE GOT A CHECK FOR $7,442 AND 34 CENTS.
WE'RE NOT VERY GOOD BUSINESSMEN, BUT THAT'S HOW MUCH WE MADE OFFICE THING.
AND TODAY I TURNED IT OVER TO THE BAGHDAD CEMETERY ASSOCIATION AND, UH, WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE, WOULD STILL BE FIGHTING WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS, HAD NOT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE STEPPED IN AND GOT IT.
SO PAT HER ON THE BACK, SHE DID WONDERFUL WORK FOR US ON YOUR YEAH, EXACTLY.
ON YOUR DESK ARE FIVE THINGS ABOUT HISTORY.
MY TERM ON THE HISTORY COMMITTEE IS UP.
FIRST ONE IS PAULINE NAAMAN'S HISTORY.
IT TALKS ABOUT THE FIVE TOWNS THAT BECAME LEANDER.
FOUR OF THEM HAVE HAD SCHOOLS NAMED AFTER HIM.
THE MILLER COMMUNITY, THE FRIEDMAN'S COMMUNITY HAS NOT.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR 15 YEARS.
WE EXPECT SOME HELP FROM Y'ALL LATER ON
THE THIRD ONE IS A LETTER I WROTE SEVEN YEARS AGO ASKING THAT THEY NAMED SOMETHING AFTER BILL PICKETT, WHO WAS BORN THREE YEARS, THREE MILES AWAY FROM HERE.
TAYLOR CLAIMS IN FORT WORTH CLAIMS IN PONKA CITY, CLAIMS HIM HIS BIRTHPLACE DOESN'T WHAT'S ON.
THERE IS A SAMPLING OF WHAT HE DID.
HE WAS AN INCREDIBLE MAN AND WE NEED TO CLAIM HIM.
THE FOURTH THING IS ABOUT THE DINOSAUR TRACKS ABOUT HOW THEY ACCESS, HOW TO GET THERE.
SOME PEOPLE CLAIM YOU CAN'T GET THERE.
THIS IS A RULING FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY STATING THE FACTS AS IT IS AND HOW WE CAN GET THERE AND WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE CAN.
LAST THING IS ABOUT DON LIVELY.
THE LIVELY EDITION IS WHERE AMERICA GOT WAGYU CATTLE AND HENCE KOBI BEEF LEANDER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR KOBE BEEF.
THE LAST THING I HAVE FOR YOU IS A CALENDAR.
THIS IS ONE OF THE CREEPIEST PICTURES OF A CHILD I'VE EVER SEEN, BUT IT IS A CALENDAR FROM THE RED AND WHITE GROCERY, WHICH WAS WHERE COMPASS BANK IS NOW.
UM, KATHY HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB WITH THE COMMITTEE.
WE BROUGHT A LOT OF STUFF TOGETHER AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
SHE WILL BE YOUR HISTORY MOMENT.
I'M JUST THE CARTOON IN FRONT OF HER.
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OKAY.[7. Recognitions/Proclamations/Visitors. Recognition of Glenn High School Boy's Basketball Team]
SEVEN.THE GLENN HIGH SCHOOL BOYS BASKETBALL TEAM HAS ASKED TO MOVE THAT TO NOVEMBER 4TH.
SO LOOK FORWARD TO THAT NEXT MONTH.
[8. Exploring Leander History]
LEANDER HISTORY.WE HAVE OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION CHAIR, CAT HOWELL.
UM, WELL, WE'LL GO BRIEFLY HERE TODAY.
UH, WHAT I HAVE HERE IS THE 1940 AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH FOR THIS, THIS PARTICULAR PHOTOGRAPH ON THE ROAD ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS WHAT WE CALL 180 3.
AT THE TIME IT WAS HIGHWAY 29.
THE ROAD ON THE BOTTOM IS ANDERSON MILL ROAD.
THE WHAT APPEARS TO BE A ROAD ON THE TOP IS THE PRECURSOR TO WHAT WAS SIX 20.
THAT'S ACTUALLY THE, UM, DRIVEWAY THAT LED FROM 180 3 OVER TO ANDERSON MILL ROAD TO BUILD THE DAM IN THAT IT'S A NICE WIDE PATH BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE FIRST TRANSMISSION LINE IS.
MIKE, IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT ONE, AND THIS IS A LITTLE FARTHER WEST SHOWING WHERE THAT TRANSITION, WHERE THEY HIT, WHAT, WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS HOW THERE'S NOTHING IN BETWEEN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
SO THAT 1940 AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH WAS FOLLOWED BY 1941.
THE FIRST ONE WAS FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND THEIR, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SO STARTING IN 1938, THE CITY OF AUSTIN WAS PLANNING ON ANNEXING ALL THE WAY OUT TO THIS DIRECTION.
AND THEY PAID FOR THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS TO START THAT NXS AND PROCESS IN 1940, THIS IN 1941, THIS PHOTOGRAPH, THE SERIES OF PHOTOGRAPHS ARE THE U S GA FOR SOIL CONSERVATION, BECAUSE WE WERE IN A SERIOUS DROUGHT AT THAT TIME.
AND IF Y'ALL REMEMBER, THAT WAS ALSO THE TIME OF THE DUST BOWL.
UM, THE UP IN THE UPPER LEFT IS THE TOWN OF GEORGETOWN BOTTOM, RIGHT, IS ROUND ROCK IN THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE, TO THE LEFT IS WHAT WE CALL CEDAR PARK.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE FAR LEFT TO THE VERY WEST IS THE QUARRY IN THE DRIVEWAY THAT WENT OVER TO WHAT'S 180 3 SLASH THE RAILROAD AND THERE'S, UM, ROADS IN THAT AREA.
IT WAS FOR LOADING THE GRAVEL FROM THE QUARRY ONTO THE TRAIN CARS.
AND THERE WERE THREE OR FOUR STORES IN 1941.
AND THAT WAS WHAT CONSISTED OF CEDAR PARK ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS LEANDER.
AND THAT'S WHAT OUR AREA LOOKED LIKE.
SO WHERE WE ARE NOW, THE OLD TOWN, THAT'S THE GRID THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE AND YOU CAN SEE ALL AROUND.
THERE IS NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
SO WHEN, UM, MY MOM BEFORE ME AND NOW ME, WHEN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW THERE WAS VERY LITTLE BETWEEN HERE IN AUSTIN, SPECIFICALLY CEDAR PARK, THERE WAS REALLY NOTHING ABOUT CEDAR PARK.
CEDAR PARK DID NOT COME ABOUT UNTIL THE LATE SIXTIES, EARLY SEVENTIES, BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO STOP THE ANNEXATION PROCESS THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN BEGAN IN THE 1930S.
NOW, THE REASON WHY CITY OF AUSTIN STARTED THAT IS BECAUSE CITY OF AUSTIN, THEY HAD TO HAVE WATER.
THEY COULD NOT GET TO LIKE TRAVIS FROM WHERE THEY WERE.
THEY LIKE AUSTIN TOWN LAKE OR BOTH CONSTANT LEVEL OF WATER RESERVOIRS LAKE TRAVIS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT THEY HAD A GUARANTEED AMOUNT OF WATER, WHICH WE KNOW NOW IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE.
WE KNOW JUST HOW FAR IT CAN GO.
BUT AT THE TIME THEY BELIEVED THAT LIKE TRAVIS WAS GOING TO BE THEIR WATER RESERVOIR.
SO THEY HAD TO ANNEX ALL THE WAY OUT THERE.
THE CITIZENS OF, UH, PEOPLE JUST SOUTH OF HERE IN THE SIXTIES, THEY SAW THIS AND THEY HAD TO STOP IT.
SO THAT'S WHEN THEY CREATED THE TOWN OF CEDAR PARK, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE CLOSEST TOWN, WHICH WAS JUST LITERALLY A COUPLE OF THREE STORES AND A STOP FOR THE RAILROAD SO THAT THEY COULD GET THE GRAVEL.
AND THEN THAT'S, AS WE KNOW, NOW, CITY OF AUSTIN CAME OUT AND ANNEX AS FAR AS THEY COULD.
AND NOW THEY HAVE THEIR WATER ON LAKE TRAVIS AND CEDAR PARK STOPPED THEM, OR THEY WOULD HAVE KEPT GROWING, GOING AND GROWING.
AND THAT'S A PLAN THAT THEY PUT IN PLACE IN THE THIRTIES.
KEEP IN MIND THAT IN THE THIRTIES, THAT WAS THE DEPRESSION ERA.
SO THE CITY COUNCIL FOUND IT SO IMPORTANT TO PUT IT ON THEIR AGENDA, PUT IT INTO THEIR BUDGET AND PAY FOR THOSE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS TO BE DONE DURING THE DEPRESSION.
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TO HIM TO PLAN THAT FAR AHEAD.SIMILAR THING WITH THE USDA WITH THOSE HERE.
AND THIS IS THIS LEANDER AND THAT IS A STUART LIGHT TANK.
AND THAT TANK IS GOING FROM AUSTIN UP TO FORT HOOD, WHICH IN 41, WE HAD STARTED THE WAR AND OUR, WE HAD JOINED INTO THE WAR.
WE HAD JOINED INTO THE WAR AND IT WAS NOT UNCOMMON FOR THE MILITARY VEHICLES TO GO UP AND DOWN WHAT WE CALL 180 3 AT THE TIME IT WAS CALLED 29.
AND, UM, THEY WOULD GO FROM AUSTIN UP TO FORT HOOD AND BACK AND FORTH.
AND I JUST WANTED TO SHOW AND POINT OUT THAT EVERY SINGLE ROAD THAT WAS THERE WAS COLLEGIAL.
THERE WERE NO PAVED ROADS UNTIL AFTER 1941, BUT THAT IS LEANDER RIGHT THERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE RAILROAD TRACKS AT THE BOTTOM AT THE VERY BOTTOM.
[9. Board Report Leander Public Art Commission]
BOARD REPORTS.WE HAVE THE LAND OR PUBLIC ARTS COMMISSION TONIGHT WITH THE ELPAC CHAIR.
SO THIS WHOLE SIX MINUTE THING FOR ME FOR A LOOP, BUT I THINK I GOT IT.
HOW DO I PLAY FROM HERE? AWESOME.
I AM MONICA
UM, SO AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME TURNOVER WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT AS OF TODAY, THIS IS AN ACCURATE LIST.
AND TODAY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, EVENTS THAT WE'VE DONE, AN EXHIBIT THAT WE'VE DONE THE SCULPTURE GARDEN AND WHAT WE'RE UP TO NEXT.
SO WE'VE HAD BOOTHS AT THE LANDER KITE FESTIVAL, THE LAND REPUBLIC LIBRARY ART DAY, AS WELL AS THE LANDER BLUEGRASS FESTIVAL.
UM, THE INTENT OF THESE BOOTS BOOTHS IS TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT ELPAC DOES AND HOPEFULLY GET VOLUNTEERS.
AND WE DID ACTUALLY AT THE BLUEGRASS FESTIVAL, WE GOT QUITE A FEW, UH, BACK IN MAY, WE DID THE TEXAS WRITERS EXHIBIT.
IT WAS THE FIRST EXHIBIT RENTED FROM HUMANITIES, TEXAS, AND FUTURE EXHIBITS ARE IN THE WORKS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW THAT I CAN SHOW OFF, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO HAPPEN.
NOW THE BIG ITEM THAT I'M GOING TO GO ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT TONIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE DEAL IS THE SCULPTURE GARDEN.
SO IF YOU REMEMBER IN OUR LAST LITTLE PRESENTATION, I GAVE YOU A TIMELINE FOR THE LANDER SCULPTURE GARDEN, UM, THAT IT IS GOING TO BE THE LARGEST WALKING TRAIL SCULPTURE WALKING TRAIL IN TEXAS EVENTUALLY.
WELL, WE ARE FINISHING UP PHASE ONE INSTALLATIONS AND, UM, ON NOVEMBER 20TH WE HAVE THE SOFT OPENING DURING HARVEST FEST.
UM, WE ARE CORDIALLY INVITING SLASH ENCOURAGING HIGHLY ALL CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE JOIN US FOR THE SOFT OPENING.
UM, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE ABOUT WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED HERE AND WHAT I'M GOING TO SHOW OFF IN THE SLIDES THAT COME UP THAT FOLLOW IS THAT WE MANAGED TO GET 13 ARTWORKS IN THE PARK.
WE BUDGETED FOR FIVE AND WE MANAGED TO GET 13, UM, DO A NO SMALL PART TO OUR COMMISSIONER, DEANNA RAMIREZ, WHO CONVINCED THE ARTISTS TO GIVE US SERIOUS DISCOUNTS.
AND BECAUSE WE GOT THE GRACIOUS DONATION FROM, UM, I LOST THEIR NAME.
WE GOT A GRACIOUS DONATION TOO, FROM ALEX TINBURG TO GET THE CONCRETE PADS DONE AND THAT'S THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND WE GOT THAT DONE COMPLETELY FOR FREE.
WE WERE ABLE TO GET AN ADDITIONAL SCULPTURE TOO.
SO PHASE TWO IS GOING TO BE IN NOVEMBER.
UM, WE'RE DOING ANOTHER CALL TO ART IN NOVEMBER, JUST BEFORE THE SOFT OPENING.
AND WE'RE PLANNING ON GETTING ANOTHER HALF DOZEN ARTWORKS IN THE PARK.
THEN, UM, IN JANUARY WE WILL PRESENT THE SELECTIONS TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
AND IN MARCH WE WILL DO THE INSTALLATIONS FOR PHASE TWO, HOPEFULLY A HALF DOZEN.
AND IF WE HAVE MORE MIRACLES, MAYBE ANOTHER DOZEN, I DON'T KNOW.
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UH, BUT IN APRIL, UM, APRIL 30TH, 2022 WILL BE THE GRAND OPENING.IT IS INTERNATIONAL SCULPTURE DAY, AND IT WILL BE ALSO THE RETURN OF THE ANNUAL LEANDER ART FEST.
SO NOW I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE WORKS.
I COULDN'T PUT THEM ALL UP HERE BECAUSE AS LATE AS THIS AFTERNOON, WE WERE HAVING INSTALLATIONS.
SO THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE READY FOR THE SOFT OPENING, BUT, UM, I COULDN'T GET PICTURES OF EVERYTHING.
SO THIS IS MARS HONOR, ONE, TWO AND THREE FROM CARD.
YOU WILL RECOGNIZE THIS SCULPTURE BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ART BENCH IN FRONT OF THE LIBRARY BY THIS ARTIST, PROTRUSION BENCH BY THOMAS LANCASTER.
WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER BENCH FROM HIM THAT IS IN THE WORKS.
AND, UM, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY SAW THE FANTASTIC WORK DONE BY, UM, OUR PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF.
THIS IS THEM POSING WITH THE ARTIST.
THEY HELPED WITH ALL OF THE INSTALLATIONS THROUGHOUT THE PARK.
WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT THEM, NOT FOR ONE SECOND HERE, YOU WILL SEE HANGING SPHERE.
UM, THIS ONE IS ON LOAN, UH, WHICH WAS PART OF THE AGREEMENT.
SO IT'S 13, TWO OF THEM ARE ON LOAN AND ONE OF THEM WAS DONATED BY A CITIZEN OF LANDER.
UH, STEP ON OUT IS ALSO ON LOAN.
NOW YOU SEE ON THE LEFT IS THE LARGE PAD FOR THE UPCOMING INSTALLATION OF THE COLOR CAROUSEL.
AND AGAIN, NONE OF THIS COULD HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT, UH, THE WORK OF ALEX TINNEBERG THE STAGE AND ON THE RIGHT BIRDS OF LEANDER.
SO THE IMAGE THAT I HAVE NOW IS ACTUALLY AN IMAGE THAT SHE HAD, THAT THE ARTIST HAS DONE IN A PREVIOUS WORK.
WHAT IS GREAT ABOUT THIS ONE IS IT WILL BE BIRDS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO LANDER, BUT NOT JUST THAT IT'LL BE BIRDS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THE EXACT POINT IN WHICH SHE IS GOING TO DISPLAY THE SCULPTURE.
SO IT'LL BE THE NESTING AREAS OF VERY SPECIFIC BIRDS THAT ARE ONLY IN THAT PARK.
WE HAVE LITTLE MONSTER, WHICH I THINK IS ADORABLE.
AND SIX FEET TALL JUST SAYING PINK DOG IS THE PIECE OF ART THAT WAS DONATED.
UM, SO I ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE DOG PARK DONATIONS.
SO PINK DOG WAS DONATED TO US BY A LANDER CITIZEN BECAUSE, UM, SHE IS WANTING TO ENCOURAGE THE FUNDRAISING OF A LARGER VERSION OF THE DOG.
SO THE, THE PICTURE YOU HAVE HERE IS ACTUALLY OF ANOTHER DOG PARK WITH THE ARTIST.
AND SO THE IDEA WOULD BE TO HAVE THE SAME.
IT WOULDN'T BE THE SAME EXACT DOG.
SO WE'RE SEEKING TO RAISE $10,000 FOR A 10 FOOT TALL SCULPTURE.
AND IT WOULD BE AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE WALKING TRAIL AND THE DOG PARK.
AND I WANT TO GIVE SPECIAL THANKS TO THE ARTIST, JEFF BREWER, FOR THE SIGNIFICANT DISCOUNT.
UH, PLEASE MAKE YOUR DONATIONS TO THE CITY OF LANDER FOR ELPAC BECAUSE ELPAC CAN NOT RECEIVE DIRECT DONATIONS.
UH, IT COULD BE DONATED BY PRIVATE CITIZENS AS WELL AS BUSINESSES.
SO ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THE LEANDRA PARKS AND RECREATION TO ALEX TINBERGEN, THE NORTHLINE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, AS WELL AS THE SCULPTURE GARDEN SUBCOMMITTEE, WITHOUT WHOM NONE OF THIS COULD HAVE HAPPENED, UH, ESPECIALLY TO, UH, DEANNA RAMIREZ, THE PROJECT FOUNDER, LISA HANES, AND STEVE COHEN SKI.
NOW I'M GOING TO PLAY A LITTLE VIDEO SO ONCE AGAIN, THE REASON WHY I STAYED ON THESE FOR SO LONG, THIS IS A HUGE PROJECT FOR LANDER.
IT IS THE LARGEST SCULPTURE GARDEN IN THE AREA.
EVENTUALLY IT WILL BE THE LARGEST ONE IN TEXAS, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A TERRIFIC DRAW FOR TOURISM.
AND IT'S GOING TO GIVE SOMETHING FOR OUR CITIZEN TO LOOK FORWARD TO DOING, UH, KEEP IN MIND, SOME OF THESE SCULPTURES WILL BE ON ROTATION, NOT, NOT THIS FIRST INSTALLATION, BUT WE WILL HAVE A ROTATION OF ARTWORKS, WHICH MEANS THAT WHENEVER
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YOU GO ON A HIKE, WHENEVER YOU GO ON A BIKE RIDE ON THESE TRAILS, YOU WILL POSSIBLY SEE SOMETHING NEW, SORRY.UM, WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON NEXT, WE ARE BRINGING BACK THE EARTH DAY ART CONTEST.
WE WERE VERY CREATIVE ON THIS ONE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE ART COMMISSION.
WE WANTED TO MIX IT WITH THE DUMPSTER ARTS THAT I TALKED ABOUT IN MY LAST UPDATE SIX MONTHS AGO.
UM, IT IS GOING TO BE, UM, FANTASTIC.
AND I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UM, WE'RE DOING MORE EXHIBITS, WE'RE DOING THE BARBECUE.
COOK-OFF, UH, WE'RE WORKING IN TANDEM WITH PARKS AND REC TO HOLD LANDER'S FIRST EVER BARBECUE.
WE'RE GOING TO DO MORE HOLIDAY FLOATS AND WE ARE DOING LONG-TERM PURCHASES.
SO THAT ELPAC HAS, YOU KNOW, SUPPLIES THAT THEY CAN USE OVER AND OVER AGAIN, INSTEAD OF WASTING TAXPAYER MONEY, TRYING TO GET THINGS AS A ONE-OFF.
YOU HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE.
Y'ALL HAVE DONE SOME GREAT WORK.
[10. Staff Report Monthly water update]
STAFF REPORT.WE HAVE OUR MONTHLY WATER UPDATE WITH PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
DEFINITELY NOT AS COLORFUL AS THAT.
MY HUSBAND SAID I NEED TO LIVE IN THESE UP.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT'S THE THING WAS SO SORRY.
WE DON'T WANT THINGS TO GET LIVELY, RIGHT WITH WATER.
UM, I ALWAYS START WITH THE LAKE LEVELS, UH, THAT LCRA PUTS OUT, UH, CURRENTLY, OR AS OF OCTOBER 1ST, THE LEVEL OF THE TWO LAKES BY CANON AND TRAVIS, WAS IT ABOUT 79%? IF YOU LOOK BACK, UM, A YEAR, IT WAS EXACTLY THE SAME 79%.
AND THEN IT'S DOWN A LITTLE FROM LAST MONTH, IT WAS ABOUT 82%.
AND THEN THEY PROJECT OUT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER, ANYWHERE FROM 70 TO ABOUT 87% FULL IS WHAT THEY THINK THE LAKES WILL DO.
UM, THIS GRAPH SHOWS THE PRODUCTION OF OUR TWO PLANTS.
WE'VE GOT THE LIGHT BLUE IS THE BCR UA PLANT, WHICH WAS ABOUT 139 MILLION GALLONS LAST MONTH.
UH, THE DARKER BLUE IS SANDY CREEK, WHICH WAS ABOUT 215 MILLION GALLONS.
AND THEN THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO, UH, FOR SEPTEMBER WAS 355 MILLION GALLONS.
SO THIS IS ABOUT, UM, 50 MILLION GALLONS HIGHER THAN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WHICH IS KIND OF RIGHT IN THIS.
BUT YOU CAN SEE OUR PEAK, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS OUR PEAK FOR AUGUST LAST YEAR AND OUR PEAK WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THIS YEAR.
THE, UH, DAY-TO-DAY USAGE WE STAYED REALLY CONSISTENT THROUGH THE MONTH.
UM, SEPTEMBER WAS REALLY CLOSE, ACTUALLY REALLY CLOSE TO AUGUST, WHICH IS IF YOU REMEMBER AUGUST REPORT, UM, I ACTUALLY THOUGHT SEPTEMBER MIGHT BE HIGHER THAN AUGUST BECAUSE WE WERE TRENDING KIND OF, KIND OF IN THAT SAME RANGE.
UH, WE DIDN'T SEE THIS BIG DROP HERE LIKE THAT.
SO THIS RED LINE IS 2020, SO WE STAYED PRETTY PRETTY HIGH, WHICH IS WHY WE WERE ABOUT 50 MILLION GALLONS MORE LAST YEAR.
UM, AS OPPOSED TO THIS YEAR, OUR PEAK DAY WAS ALSO, UM, BETWEEN THE TWO YEARS, UM, SEPTEMBER OF 2021.
THIS SEPTEMBER WAS A LITTLE OVER A MILLION GALLONS HIGHER THAN OUR PEAK OF 2020.
THIS HAS OUR RUNNING USAGE SINCE MAY.
UM, SANDY CREEK IS SHOWN IN BLUE, UM, IN THE GREEN IS
SO LIKE I MENTIONED, LAST MONTH, WE WERE REALLY TRENDING WAY BELOW 2020 UNTIL ABOUT THE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER WHERE WE FLIPPED IT A LITTLE BIT.
AND NOW YOU'VE SEEN, UM, STARTING IN TALK TOBAR, WE'RE ACTUALLY TRENDING.
IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR, OCTOBER IS PRETTY HOT.
AND, UH, WE SAW A BIG, BIG JUMP IN OCTOBER LAST YEAR.
SO, SO WE'RE BACK KIND OF LOWER THAN LAST YEAR, UM, AND THE MONTHLY ONCE A MONTH WATER USAGE.
SO, UM, WE WERE TRENDING WAY BELOW 20, 20 STARTING IN THE SUMMER.
AND WE'VE JUST NOW TO WHERE WE JUMPED TO WHERE 2021 WAS HIGHER THAN 2020.
SO WE, AGAIN, 354 MILLION GALLONS WAS REALLY CLOSE TO, UM, AUGUST AT 373.
AND THEN THE THREE YEAR, YOU KNOW, THREE-YEAR AVERAGE AND LAST YEAR WAS, WAS SIGNIFICANTLY RIGHT AROUND 300 SIGNIFICANTLY LESS SIMILARLY WITH OUR PEAK DAY.
WE, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF TRENDED BELOW OUR PEAK OF 2020.
WE'VE JUST NOW KIND OF JUMPED ABOVE IT.
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AND IF YOU SEE DOWN HERE, UM, LIKE I ALWAYS SAY WE TRADITIONALLY SEE OUR PEAK IN AUGUST.IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS, I THINK OF THESE 14 YEARS, 11 OF THEM HAVE BEEN IN AUGUST.
SO AUGUST IS ALMOST ALWAYS OUR PEAK.
SO, UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE ALSO OUR PEAK DAY WAS REALLY, REALLY, REALLY CLOSE TO AUGUST.
I WILL HAVE SOME CIP UPDATES ON SOME OF OUR MORE ACTIVE WATER PROJECTS.
UH, SAN GABRIEL WATERLINE STILL TRENDING TO FINISH UP BY MID NOVEMBER.
THE NEW CONNECTION TO BE
UM, THEY'RE ALMOST DONE WITH THE TOPO SURVEY AND JUST WITH THE SURVEY SO FAR, THEY'VE NARROWED THEIR OPTIONS FROM FOUR TO THREE.
SO THEY KIND OF PRELIMINARY GAVE US THESE OPTIONS, THIS OPTION TWO, AND THIS OPTION THREE.
SO THEY THINK ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS WILL BE, UM, ONE OF THE NEW SITE LAYOUTS WHEN THE NEW SLUDGE COMES IN AND YOU CAN SEE THE NEW TREATMENT UNIT KIND OF THAT BACKUP REDUNDANT TREATMENT UNIT WILL BE MAYBE EITHER THERE OR THERE.
UM, SO ONCE THEY FINISH UP THE SURVEY, UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE A MEETING IN NOVEMBER EIGHT TO KIND OF DIAL IN THESE SITE OPTIONS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND THEN I'VE CHECKED IN WITH OUR CIP TEAM, UM, TO GET SOME UPDATES ON THE NEWER PROJECTS THAT ARE KICKING OFF THE, UM, I'LL GO BACK W 41 HAS TWO PARTS.
AND THEN, UM, THE STORAGE TANK IS THE SECOND ONE.
SO THE REVIEW OF THE PLANS IS COMPLETE.
UM, THEY'VE SENT BACK SOME COMMENTS TO THE ENGINEERS.
THE TREVISO ELEVATED TANK IS, UM, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A PLACE PROPERTY AT THE TIME.
SO ENGINEERING HAS REACHED OUT TO A POTENTIAL, UM, PROPERTY AND WAITING TO HEAR BACK ON THAT.
AND SO ONCE THEY SITE SELECT AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT SELECTING AN ENGINEER AND, AND STARTING TO SCOPE THAT PROJECT, THE TERMINUS PUMP STATION AND GROUND STORAGE TANK, I HAVE A PICTURE OF IT OVER HERE OR AT LEAST OF THE CURRENT SITE.
SO THAT'S THE CURRENT, WHAT WE CALL TERMINUS ACROSS FROM LEANDER HIGH.
AND, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT ANOTHER SECOND TANK HERE AND THEN WE'LL ADD A PUMP STATION.
SO THAT ONE, UM, WE'VE SENT BACK SOME COMMENTS ON THE SCOPE.
AND THEN, UH, FINANCES HEADING UP THE AMR AMI, AND THEY EXPECT TO HAVE AN RFQ ABOUT THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.ITEM 12 HAS BEEN PULLED FROM CONSENT.
SO THE CITY NOW CONSIDER CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 11 AND ITEMS 13 THROUGH 17 COUNCIL.
THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM, MOTION TO APPROVE.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ITEM NUMBER 12.
[12. Approval of Task Order HZI-2 for the Ronald W. Reagan Boulevard Corridor Study from Huitt-Zollars, Inc. in the not-to-exceed amount of $87,611.00; and authorize the City Manager to execute any and all necessary documents.]
12 IS APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER.H Z I TWO FOR THE RONALD W. REAGAN BOULEVARD CORRIDOR STUDY, UM, FROM I'M BUYING A MESS US UP WHEAT SOLAR'S.
UM, AUTHORIZING AN AMOUNT, NOT TO EXCEED $87,611.
UM, SO MR. BLACK CUTTER, UM, SOME QUESTIONS CAME UP REGARDING THIS VERSUS WHAT THE COUNTY AND CAMPO ARE DOING.
AND SO I WAS HOPING YOU COULD TELL US ABOUT THE SCOPE WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THE COUNTY AND DETERMINED THAT THE PROJECT THEY AWARDED JUST RECENTLY FOR LJA ENGINEERING IS FOUR FROM 2243 TO HIGHWAY 29.
AND IT'S JUST A PLANNING STUDY.
THEY WANTED TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH RIGHT AWAY THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO COME UP WITH THEIR PROPOSED ULTIMATE CROSS SECTION, WHICH SHOULD BE AN EIGHT LANE FREEWAY.
AND THEY'RE PLANNING TO BUILD THIS ALL THE WAY UP TO
SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT.
THAT'S GOING TO TAKE MANY STEPS, BUT RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE NOTHING BUT A PLANNING STUDY TO SEE HOW MUCH RIGHT AWAY IT WILL TAKE TO BUILD THIS SECTION OF ROADWAY.
WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO HERE IS A STUDY OF THE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS ON HIM, ON RONALD REAGAN TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE A METHODICAL APPROACH TO THE TRAFFIC CONTROLS NEEDED.
WE KEEP GETTING, UH, ALL KINDS OF SIGNALS FOR WARRANT REQUESTS ALONG RONALD REAGAN, AND THEY ALL WEREN'T.
AND IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, WE'D END UP WITH A SIGNAL, EVERY SINGLE INTERSECTION.
WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID THAT AND TRY TO TAKE A MEASURED METHOD, UH, SCIENTIFIC APPROACH TO HOW WE HANDLE THE TRAFFIC ON REAGAN.
AND THE COUNTY'S PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
THAT IS CORRECT, BUT ONLY HAVE MONEY FOR CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS GOING TO DO A STUDY.
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I THINK A MOTION TO APPROVE A SECOND.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[18. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding the approval of a Resolution approving a Resolution by the Board of Directors of the Brushy Creek Regional Utility Authority, Inc. (BCRUA); authorizing the issuance of “Brushy Creek Regional Utility Authority, Inc., City of Leander, Texas Contract Revenue Bonds (Brushy Creek Regional Water Treatment and Distribution Project), Series 2021”; establishing the procedures for selling and delivering the bonds and resolving other matters incident and relating to the issuance, payment, security, sale and delivery of such bonds. Discuss and consider action on a Resolution approving a Resolution by the Board of Directors of the Brushy Creek Regional Utility Authority, Inc. as described above.]
ITEM 18 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING, UH, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS BLESS YOU OF THE BRUSHY CREEK REGIONAL UTILITY AUTHORITY INCORPORATED.CITY OF LEANDER, TEXAS CONTRACT REVENUE, BONDS, BRUSHY CREEK, REGIONAL WATER TREATMENT AND DISTRIBUTION PROJECT SERIES 2021, ESTABLISHING THE PROCEDURES FOR SELLING AND DELIVERING THE BONDS AND RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS INCIDENT AND RELATING TO THE ISSUANCE PAYMENT, SECURITY SALE AND DELIVERY OF SUCH BONDS CITY ATTORNEY SIGNS.
OH, YOU'RE NOT CITY ATTORNEY SIGNS.
WELL, UH, I AM NOT, THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING AS I'M NOT SURE YOU'D WANT MY LEGAL ADVICE.
UM, I'M, I'M STANDING IN FOR ROBERT.
AND SO, UH, YOU ESSENTIALLY, UM, STATED WHAT THE PURPOSE IS, IS TO HAVE A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE RESOLUTION AT THE, ARE YOU A BOARD APPROVED FOR LEANDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A, UM, SERIES 2021 BOND FOR THE AMOUNT OF $40 MILLION? AND SO, UM, ONE THING I'LL ROBERT SENT ME THE, AND I WAS THERE FOR IT TO HEAR IT, BUT, UM, AND I'LL READ IT OFF.
BUT ACCORDING TO THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR, THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT RATES, UM, THAT THEY WILL, THEY WERE LOCKED IN LAST MONTH AND WE'RE NEAR AN ALL TIME LOW WITH THE, AND THEY'RE GONNA TAKE OUT THE LOAN FOR 25 YEARS WITH THE DEBT INTEREST BEING ABOUT 1.8, 9%.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE WITH THIS FIRST $40 MILLION.
SO STANDING BY FOR ANY, ANY QUESTIONS IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY WHO'S SUBMITTED CARDS TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, NOW THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
WE WILL MOVE INTO ACTION ON A RESOLUTION, APPROVING A RESOLUTION BY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE BRUSHY CREEK REGIONAL UTILITY AUTHORITY INCORPORATED AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY COUNSEL.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU, COUNSEL, BE IN A FIVE MINUTE RECESS AT 7 35.
NOW PLEASE BE BACK AT SEVEN 40.
WE ARE BACK IN SESSION AT 7:43 PM.
[19. Conduct a Public Hearing on an Ordinance establishing a franchise for temporary solid waste services and establishing a permit for temporary solid waste services provided on a short-term basis, and authorizing the City Manager or designee to issue such franchises or permits from time-to-time; providing for an application process; providing franchise and permit fees; approving a form of and terms of a franchise agreement; and making other provisions. Discuss and consider action on an Ordinance establishing a franchise for temporary solid waste services and establishing a permit for temporary solid waste services provided on a short term basis as described above.]
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE, ESTABLISHING A FRANCHISE FOR TEMPORARY SOLID WASTE SERVICES AND ESTABLISHING A PERMIT FOR TEMPORARY SOLID WASTE SERVICES PROVIDED ON A SHORT-TERM BASIS AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE TO ISSUE SUCH FRANCHISES OR PERMITS FROM TIME TO TIME PROVIDING FOR AN APPLICATION PROCESS, PROVIDING FRANCHISE AND PERMIT FEES, APPROVING A FORM OF IN TERMS OF A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT AND MAKING OTHER PROVISIONS.AND IT IS REALLY CITY ATTORNEY SIGNS THIS TIME REALLY.
UM, MARIN COUNCIL, AS YOU HAVE NOTICED, YOU HAD, UH, PERMITS APPLICATIONS COMING BEFORE YOU FROM TIME TO TIME FROM APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A FRANCHISE FOR TEMPORARY SOLID WASTE, UH, SERVICE FRANCHISES.
AND THESE, THESE ARE FOR THE ROLL-OFF SERVICES FOR, UH, CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES ARE REQUIRED BY YOUR CITY CHARTER AND STATE LAW TO HAVE A FRANCHISE OR A PERMIT.
AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ADOPTING IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS SO THAT THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE CAN GRANT THOSE APPLICATIONS AS THEY COME BEFORE YOU FROM TIME TO TIME, AS OPPOSED TO THEM COMING BEFORE COUNCIL.
WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES IS IT SETS UP THAT AUTHORIZATION AND IT SETS UP THAT PROCESS.
IT ALSO APPROVES THE FORM OF THE CONTRACT, WHICH IS THE ONE YOU HAVE PROVIDED AND APPROVED FOR, UM, OTHER AGREEMENTS, UM, OTHER FRANCHISES.
AND SO IT ESTABLISHES THAT FORM AND AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO, OR DESIGNATE TO ENTER INTO THOSE FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS FROM TIME TO TIME UPON APPLICATION, UM, AND PROPER QUALIFICATION.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE ORDINANCE, UM, AUTHORIZES A PERMIT, WHICH WOULD BE A, UH, KIND OF A LESS COMPREHENSIVE FORM OF APPROVAL THAT WOULD GRANT PERMISSION FOR, UH, TEMPORARY ROLL-OFF SERVICES FOR SMALLER SHORT-TERM PROJECTS THAT ARE NO LONGER THAN 90 DAYS AND NEED A LESS COMPLICATED FORM OF APPROVAL.
AND SO THAT AUTHORIZATION IS IN HERE AS WELL.
IN ADDITION, THERE ARE PERMIT FEES THAT ARE ESTABLISHED AND FRANCHISE FEES ESTABLISHED.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M READY TO ASK ANSWER THIS.
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THANK YOU.THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION ON ORDINANCE, ESTABLISHING A FRANCHISE FOR TEMPORARY SOLID WASTE SERVICES AND ESTABLISHING A PERMIT FOR TEMPORARY SOLID WASTE SERVICES PROVIDED ON A SHORT-TERM BASIS AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY COUNCIL MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND EMOTION A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[20. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Special Use Case 21-TOD-SU-003 to consider action on an amendment to the Wildfire Park Special Use Permit to allow for a Farmer’s Market and Open Air Vendors on one (1) parcel of land approximately 0.53 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R036038; legally described as Lots 7-12, Block 7 of the Original Town of Leander Subdivision and addressed as 209 Broade Street, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action on and Ordinance regarding Special Use Case 21-TOD-SU-003 as described above.]
20, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING SPECIAL USE CASE 21 T O D S U 0 0 3.TO CONSIDER ACTION ON AN AMENDMENT TO THE WILDFIRE PARK SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A FARMER'S MARKET AND OPEN AIR VENDORS ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 0.5, THREE ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE WILDFIRE PARK SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2 0 9 BROAD STREET.
UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL APPROVED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THIS PROPERTY IN 2018.
UM, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT ALLOWED FOR FOOD TRUCKS AND FOR, UM, UH, AIRBNB ON PART OF THE PROPERTY.
AND NOW THE APPLICANTS COMING FORWARD TO REQUEST A FARMER'S MARKET.
IN ADDITION TO THOSE USES, THEY HAVE A INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS A PUSHCART.
THAT IS A PROBABLY GONNA SAY IT WRONG, BUT IT'S A BICYCLE COFFEE SHOP.
AND, UM, THE COUNTY WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE WITHOUT FARMER'S MARKET.
I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THEIR REGULATIONS.
UM, SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE'RE AMENDING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE USE.
AND THAT WAS OUR, OUR BEST SOLUTION.
THE, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER REVIEWED THIS REQUEST DURING THE SEPTEMBER 23RD MEETING.
AND THEY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT COMPETING USES BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES IN THE AREA, AND THEY DID ULTIMATELY A MOTION TO APPROVE IT.
UH, I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? OKAY, GOOD EVENING.
UH, MY NAME IS JEANNIE SNYDER AND I, AND MY HUSBAND ARE THE OWNERS OF WILDFIRE PARK, WHICH IS JUST RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER HERE ON BROAD STREET.
UH, WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, UM, ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO AND HAVE, UH, CREATED A GREAT SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND HANG OUT.
UM, SO I KIND OF WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS, UM, AN IDEA OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, AND THEN I WILL, UM, TRY TO EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR PERMIT.
UM, OUR CURRENT PERMIT IS FOR A FOOD IN VENDOR PARK, AS WELL AS AIRBNBS, UH, FOOD TRUCKS.
AND SO IT'S RETAIL AND FOOD PARK.
UM, AND SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IS EXISTING THERE, UH, WITH THIS LITTLE SLIDESHOW THAT I HAVE, SOME OF THIS DIDN'T DIDN'T TRANSLATE WELL, BUT YOU'LL GET THE IDEA.
SO, UM, THIS IS WILDFIRE PART.
WE HAVE, UM, UM, THIS IS OUR STORE, SO IT'S A VINTAGE AIRSTREAM PARK, UM, AS WELL AS FOOD TRUCKS AND STUFF.
BUT, UM, THIS IS WHILE FOR ARTISANS.
UM, I HAVE A BUSINESS PARTNER, DONNA, SHE'S AN ARTIST AND I'M A POTTER.
SO WE SELL OUR WARES THERE AS WELL AS LOTS OF LOCAL VENDORS.
UM, WE HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT OFFERINGS THERE.
UM, T-SHIRTS AND CAN'T THE QUILTS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
IT'S BASICALLY A GIFT SHOP IN BOUTIQUE.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THREE VINTAGE AIRSTREAM, BNBS.
THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT THEMES.
UM, MY HUSBAND AND I TOOK A LOT OF TIME, UH, REDOING THEM AND, UM, THEY HA THEY'RE PROBABLY 80% OCCUPANCY.
THE PEOPLE WHO COME HERE AND STAY IN OLD TOWN, LOVE IT.
THEY LOVE, UH, BEING ABLE TO HAVE A FOOD TRUCK ON THE PREMISES AND THEY WALK NEXT DOOR AND, AND, YOU KNOW, LOVE ON SATURDAYS.
THEY, THEY LOVE THE FARMER'S MARKET.
THEY, UM, LOVE, THEY ALWAYS SAY THEY LOVE THE BACKYARD BAR NEXT DOOR.
AND, UM, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY LOVE ALL THE RESTAURANTS, CASA KOSTA AND MOUTONS AND ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL THE LOCAL STUFF.
SO, UM, WE HAVE FIVE-STAR REVIEWS ON THERE.
UM, THEY, UM, THEY REALLY LOVE IT AND THEY LOVE OLD TOWN AND HOW WE'RE DEVELOPING IT.
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UM, SO THIS IS OUR NEWEST FOOD TRUCK, TACO SOUP PRESET, AND SHE, THE OWNER IS HERE TONIGHT AND SHE HAS BEEN ON THE PROPERTY SINCE FEBRUARY.SO SHE IS HERE SIX DAYS A WEEK, OFFERING TACOS, BREAKFAST, TACOS, AND LUNCH TACOS, UM, HOMEMADE TORTILLAS, HOMEMADE SALSAS, SO FANTASTIC TACOS.
SHE STAYS VERY BUSY, UM, IS A GREAT ADDITION TO THE PROPERTY.
WE ALSO HAVE THE CORNERED MARKET, WHICH IS A GLUTEN-FREE BAKER AND SHE, UH, IT'S SOME OF THE GREAT, THE BEST GLUTEN-FREE, UH, BAKED GOODS THAT YOU CAN HAVE.
AND, UM, THEY'RE REALLY FANTASTIC NOW FOR HER, WE DO NOT NEED A FARMER'S MARKET PERMIT CAUSE SHE'S UNDER COTTAGE LAW AND SHE HAS PERMISSION TO OPERATE.
SO OUR SPECIAL USE AMENDMENT DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT HER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN THIS IS OUR COFFEE VENDOR.
THIS IS DITCHING TOAD COFFEE, AND HE'S ALSO HERE TONIGHT AND HE IS, UM, BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF NOW.
AND THAT'S THE CART THAT, UM, ROBIN WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU.
IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, A VINTAGE EUROPEAN ELECTRIC COFFEE CART.
UM, SO ANYWAY, HE, UM, THAT'S KIND OF THE BACKGROUND.
I WANTED TO JUST EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR PERMIT.
SO A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WHENEVER HE, UM, REQUIRED WITH THE CITY, UH, ACQUIRED, I SHOULD SAY, UM, WITH THE CITY AND WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UM, HE, HE HAD TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF FIGURING OUT WHAT PERMITS HE NEEDED.
THEY TOLD HIM ALL HE NEEDED WAS A FOOD PERMIT.
AND SO WE HAVE EMAILS AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IN ORDER, THEY ALLOWED HIM TO OPERATE.
UM, THEY ALLOWED HIM TO SET UP HIS BUSINESS AND WE'VE BEEN FINE.
UM, BUT THEN WHEN HE WENT TO RENEW HIS PERMIT IN AUGUST, IT, UM, IT, UH, EVERY YEAR YOU HAVE TO RENEW IT.
UM, AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT KICKED IT BACK AND SAID, UM, HE HAS TO BE UNDER A FARMER'S MARKET COVERING IN ORDER TO OPERATE.
AND THAT THEY JUST SAID IT'S CHANGED.
THEY, THEY DIDN'T OFFER ANY OTHER EXPLANATION OR RESOLUTION OTHER THAN YOU HAVE TO HAVE, HE HAS TO BE UNDER A FARMERS MARKET PERMIT.
AND SO THIS MAN HAS POURED HIS LIVELIHOOD INTO THIS.
HE'S SPENT A FORTUNE ON BUILDING A BUSINESS.
HIS PLAN IS TO EXPAND AND STAY.
AND SO HE, HE DOESN'T WANT TO JUST DO THIS ON SATURDAYS.
IT HOPEFULLY WILL EXPAND INTO FULL-TIME.
BUT, UM, THE, THE POINT IS HE PUT A LOT INTO HIS BUSINESS, A LOT OF MONEY, A LOT OF TIME, AND THIS IS HIS LIVELIHOOD.
SO HE WAS SHUT DOWN BY THE CITY BECAUSE, UM, THEY SAID THAT HE NEEDED TO BE A FOOD TRUCK, UM, WHICH HE DIDN'T QUALIFY AS A FOOD TRUCK.
UM, UM, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY, HONESTLY, TO ME, IT'S, IT FITS IN WITH OUR THEME PERFECTLY, BUT, AND THEN WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THEY SAID THAT, UM, HE WOULD NEED TO BE UNDER THE COVERING OF A FARMER'S MARKET.
SO THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE TONIGHT.
WE ARE TRYING TO GET A FARMER'S MARKET PERMIT.
SO THAT VENDORS LIKE HIMSELF OR ANY OTHER VENDORS WHO WANT TO OPERATE HERE CAN, CAN DO.
I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I NEED TO EXPLAIN TO YOU.
WE HAD, UM, WE HAD SOME, UM, NOT CHARGES FILED AGAINST US, BUT COMPLAINTS, SORRY, THAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? UM, COMPLAINTS FILED AGAINST US IN EPIC, EXACT SAME TIME THAT HE WAS RENEWING HIS PERMITS.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT ALL THIS UP.
UM, BUT THE THING IS, IS THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TOLD THEM HE COULD OPERATE.
THE CITY, TOLD HIM HE COULD OPERATE.
HE SPENT ALL THIS MONEY AND TIME AND, YOU KNOW, POURED HIS HEART INTO THIS.
AND SO YOU CAN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, TELL SOMEBODY YOU CAN OPERATE AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN SHUT YOU DOWN.
SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE, UM, TEMPORARILY IS, UM, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY GAVE HIM, UM, A TEMPORARY SOLUTION UNTIL WE GET OUR, UM, SPECIAL USE PERMIT AMENDED.
SO HE'S FUNCTIONING NOW THAT, UNLESS THIS PASSES TONIGHT, HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FUNCTION NOT ON OUR PROPERTY
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ANYWAY.SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, JUST LET ME KNOW.
WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
FIRST UP IS KEY W PALMER, THE SECOND.
GOOD EVENING, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
AND YOUR PHONE NUMBER, THE SECOND, UH, FIVE THIRTY THREE, JESS MANOR HERE ON LEANDER.
UM, SO TONIGHT YOU HAVE THE DECISION ABOUT THIS AND IT'S MORE OF AN ETHICAL DECISION, I THINK, THAN JUST A PERMITTING OR THING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE WHAT HAS BEEN STATED IS THAT WHEN THE PERMITS WEREN'T GIVEN, WHERE THERE WASN'T LEGAL TO DO SO WE STAYED OPEN, WE SERVED COFFEE.
ANYWAY, I'M THE OWNER OF COYOTE, MINT COFFEE.
WE'RE FULLY PERMITTED WITH THE STATE, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY IN ALL WAYS.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE, AND WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH THE FOLKS AT THE OTHER LOCATION FOR A WHILE, BUT THEN WHEN WE DIDN'T WANT TO ABANDON SMOOTH VILLAGE, THEN WE HAD A SECOND COFFEE VENDOR.
UM, I HAVE, UH, I'M A TEXAS, UH, FOOD MAN, UH, FOOD MANAGER.
I'M ALSO LICENSED WITH THE STATE FOR, UH, PRODUCTION AND THAT SMOOTH VILLAGE.
THEY'VE BEEN CREATED A GREAT UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY THERE.
UM, PEOPLE COME THERE ALL THE TIME.
IT'S GROWN FROM THE FARMER'S MARKET FROM FOUR TO 40 PEOPLE.
UM, AND IT'S, THAT'S OUR HOME BASE.
WE DO OTHER LOCATIONS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
IT IS A FULL-TIME BUSINESS FOR ME.
UM, USUALLY FLATTERY IS CONSIDERED A POSITIVE THING, BUT THEN IN THIS CASE, IT JUST SEEMS TO BE KIND OF BLATANT PLAGIARISM.
UM, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE HERE PLEADING FOR ANOTHER VENDOR, TO WHO HASN'T HAD PERMITS PROPER TO GET PERMITS, TO BE ALLOWED TO OPEN.
THIS PERSON IS THERE, NOT A LOT, BUT I STILL LOSE REVENUE.
UM, ALSO TALKING ABOUT AN EXPANSION OF A FARMER'S MARKET AND HAVING MORE PEOPLE JUST DILUTES WHAT WE HAVE THERE.
IT'S GOING TO CAUSE PEOPLE TO LOSE MONEY.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ANYTHING LARGE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE MONEY WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE.
AND I FALL BACK ON THE PERMITTING THING.
IF IT PERMITS WERE NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO FOLLOW IN USE OR, AND DO THAT, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THE FARMER'S MARKETS OPEN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE WITH POSSIBLE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE A HEALTH CHALLENGE.
AND IF WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY, THEN IT JUST CONTINUED.
AND IT'S BEEN PROVEN THAT IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE ALREADY.
UM, I LOSE ABOUT ROUGHLY 150 A WEEK FROM BEFORE THE VENDOR SET UP OVER THERE.
UM, AND WHAT YOU JUST HEARD, IT SAID THAT AIRBNB AND THINGS ARE WHAT THEY WERE SET UP FOR THAT HASN'T STOPPED THEM FROM DOING THIS THE WHOLE TIME.
SO WHAT'S TO STOP THEM IF YOU DON'T APPROVE IT.
BUT, UM, I JUST THINK IT'S, IT'S KIND OF SAD THAT I, I FOLLOWED THE RULES.
I DO WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO AS A CITIZEN, AND I AM PUNISHED BY THIS AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA THEM FOR DOING STUFF THAT, UM, OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, THEY DON'T CARE.
THEY'RE JUST GOING TO DO WHAT THEY WANT.
AND IF YOU REWARD THEM, THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING IS REWARDING, BAD BEHAVIOR.
AND THAT WILL ENCOURAGE IT TO THANK YOU, MR. PALMER, ROBERT, BELLA.
PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MY NAME IS ROBERT BELLA, AND 1, 1, 1 9 CALISTOGA HERE IN LEANDER, TEXAS.
UM, I'M COMING TO AS A SUPPORTER OF THIS, UH, AMENDMENT OR THIS, UH, PROPOSAL, SORRY, BUT I COME TO YOU AS A CUSTOMER.
I SHOPPED THE MARKETS, BOTH MARKETS EVERY WEEKEND WITH ME AND MY WIFE.
WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK HERE IN A MINUTE.
UM, WE SHOP EQUALLY, UM, WE WATCHED PEOPLE COME AND GO.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE PICTURE UP THERE WITH, UH, THE, HIS SPICKETS AND YOU SEE ALL THE CARS LINED UP BACK THERE.
THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A CONCERN.
IT'S A GREAT CONCERN BECAUSE THERE IS SO MANY PEOPLE COMING TO BOTH MARKETS THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO PARK IN BOTH LOTS TO BE ABLE TO SHOP.
UM, I DID GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, UM, AND TO SPEAK ON BEHALF AT THAT POINT, UM, WHAT'S HAPPENED.
THERE IS PEOPLE COME AND THEY DON'T SEE A, A DIFFERENTIATION, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PARKING LOT BETWEEN THE TWO, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT THEY DON'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
AND SO, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THAT LAST GENTLEMAN HAD AS I WATCH HIM GO OVER TO GET TACOS FROM TACO CAPRIZA FOR BREAKFAST IN THE MORNING.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE SUPPORT EACH OTHER.
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WE DO THINGS THAT ARE AS A COMMUNITY.AND SO, UM, I'VE SPENT MONEY AGAIN AS A CUSTOMER AND THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT, I THINK, UH, THE TONE, UH, SORRY, THE DITCH AND TOW COFFEE.
UM, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT A GREAT PRODUCT.
I'VE HAD BOTH, I LIKE, UH, THE KID MOON COFFEE, BUT I LIKED THE OTHER ONE BETTER.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOUR PREFERENCE.
UM, AND TALKING WITH THE OWNER OF DITCH AND TOWED, HIS SAYS HIS COMPETITION IS NOT THE GUY NEXT DOOR.
IT'S COSTA KOSTA UP THE STREET.
HE WANTS THOSE CUSTOMERS TO COME OVER AND SHOP FROM THEM.
CRYSTAL CLOUD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
CRYSTAL CLOUD, LEANDER, TEXAS.
UM, I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU DENY THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A FARMER'S MARKET AND OPEN AIR VENDORS TO WILD FIRE PARK.
IN THE PAST WILDFIRE PARK HAS MISREPRESENTED THEMSELVES TO THE CITY OF LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND TO THE PUBLIC.
THEY HAVE REQUESTED PERMITS STATING THAT THEY HAD A PUBLIC RESTROOM.
WHEN IN FACT THEY PROVIDED THE PUBLIC RESTROOM LOCATED TO THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR PROPERTY.
THEY SUBMIT A PAPERWORK, PHOTOS, AND DESCRIPTION TO BOTH MUNICIPALITY ENTITIES IN THE PAST WILDFIRE PARK HAS MADE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS VIA INSTAGRAM AND PINTEREST USING A PHOTO OF THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR STATING IT WAS THEIR BUSINESS WILDFIRE PARK AS TO HAVE THE FENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES REMOVED AND WERE TOLD NO, BUT THEY PROCEEDED TO REMOVE THE FENCE.
NOW THE BUSINESS OWNER AND THE PROPERTY OWNER NEXT DOOR MUST INSTALL A NEW FENCE AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE.
IN ADDITION, THE CITY OF LANDER HAS SHUT DOWN WILDFIRES BUSINESS, A NUMBER OF TIMES FOR NOT OBTAINING PERMITS FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
I FULLY AGREE THAT COMPETITION IS GOOD FOR ANY BUSINESS, BUT DISHONESTLY PRESENTING YOUR BUSINESS TO THE PUBLIC IS NOT GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
LEANDER HAS SOME NEW RESTAURANTS, BUT THEY EACH INHERIT, EACH ARE INHERENTLY DIFFERENT FROM ONE ANOTHER WHILE COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER FOR BUSINESS, THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO COPY THEIR COMPETITION.
WILDFIRE PARK IS CLEARLY TRYING TO COPY THEIR COMPETITION SMITH VILLAGE LOCATED IN THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR.
THEY HAVE STATED THEY DON'T NEED TO ADVERTISE AND THAT AS THE BUSINESS NEXT DOOR DOES IT FOR THEM.
IN FACT, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE ANY CLIENTELE SATURDAY MORNING, IF IT WAS NOT FOR SMITH VILLAGE NEXT DOOR ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS, I'VE HAD PEOPLE STEAKS TO ME.
THEY DID NOT KNOW WILDFIRE WAS A SEPARATE COMPANY OR PROPERTY FROM SMOOTH VILLAGE.
WILDFIRE HAS BROKEN THE TEXAS BUSINESS AND COMMERCE CODE TITLE TWO COMPETITION AND TRADE PRACTICES.
CHAPTER 16, TRADEMARKS SUB CHAPTER, A GENERAL PROVISION OF DELUSION BY BLURRING, WHICH STATES AND ASSOCIATION RISING FROM SIMILARITY BETWEEN A MARK OR TRADE AND A FAMOUS MARK THAT IMPAIRS THE FAMOUS MARK'S DISTINCTIVENESS SECTION SIXTEEN.ONE ZERO THREE B FURTHER EXPLAINS TO THIS DEFINITION, A MARK IS CONSIDERED TO BE FAMOUS.
IF THE MARK IS WIDELY RECOGNIZED BY THE PUBLIC THROUGHOUT THE STATE OR GEOGRAPHIC AREA IN THE STATE AS A DESIGNATION OF SOURCE OF GOODS AND SERVICES IN THE MARK'S OWNERS, THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR SMOOTH VILLAGE CLEARLY IS RECOGNIZED BY THE PUBLIC WITHIN OUR GEOGRAPHIC AREA.
WHILE WILDFIRE CLEARLY CANNOT BE RECOGNIZED BY THE PUBLIC IN OUR GEOGRAPHIC AREA, IT SEEMS TO RELY ON THE PUBLIC'S CONFUSION, BUT THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE BUSINESSES.
THEY DO NOT REALLY HAVE A SIGN OUT FRONT THAT TELLS ME WHO THEY ARE AND THAT THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
WILDFIRE ACTIONS ARE DELUSIONED BY BLURRING SMITH VILLAGE.
THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
THIS IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
AND AGAIN, PLEASE, I URGE YOU TO VOTE.
NO, THEY HAVE VIOLATED STATE OF TEXAS LAW.
I'M SORRY IF I MESSED THIS UP IT JEANNIE.
I KNOW I GOT THE LAST NAME, RIGHT.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MY NAME IS BELLA AND I LIVE AT 1, 1, 1 9 CALISTOGA DRIVE, LEANDER, TEXAS.
AND I THINK I HAVE PROBABLY THE HARDEST NAME HERE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
AND AS MY HUSBAND SPOKE EARLIER, I JUST HAVE TO SHARE THAT I AM HERE AS A CITIZEN WHO COMES TO ENJOY OUR SMALL COMMUNITY, OUR GROWING COMMUNITY, AND TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES.
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WITH THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL.I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO INTERPRET THE LAW HERE, BUT I WOULD ASK YOU AS THE COUNCIL TO REALLY LOOK INTO THIS AND TO DO WHAT IS YOUR DUTY, WHICH IS TO FULFILL THE, UM, GOVERNMENTAL, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES HERE.
WHAT I SEE IS PEOPLE TRYING TO START A BUSINESS AND PROMOTING OUR COMMUNITY, HAVING A PLACE TO BE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER.
AND, UM, SORRY, I'M ALSO NERVOUS.
AS MY HUSBAND SAID EARLIER, AS SOMEBODY WHO COMES EVERY SATURDAY, WHAT WE SEE IS COMMUNITY INTERACTING WITH EACH OTHER, GOING BUSINESS TO BUSINESS, ENJOYING EACH OTHER'S COMPANY.
I I'M SADDENED THAT THIS HAS BECOME SUCH A CONTENTIOUS SITUATION.
I HATE IT, THAT THIS HAS COME INTO OUR CITY.
OUR, UM, AND I REALLY WOULD ASK FOR YOU TO RISE ABOVE THAT, DO YOUR WORK AS A COUNCIL AND, UM, EXCEPT THIS PROPOSAL AS IS.
THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE WANTED TO HAVE THEIR POSITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD, BUT DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
SO THOSE IN FAVOR ARE MARTHA BERNARDI'S AND BRODY PIGS, AND THOSE AGAINST OUR OLIVIA SPAWN SELLER, BAILEY REEVES, LAUREN HANSEN, MARY TROT, STEPHAN HUBBARD, LISA HUBBARD, TIFFANY TYSON, BYRON GALE BARRETT, JONES, ANGEL MAXWELL, CHAD MAXWELL, VIVIAN MILLER, DANA CHANDLER AND GLENN OLSON.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.
WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THANK YOU, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
SO MY NAME'S PIZZA MESS, I OWN AND OPERATE IOWA FARMS, A VEGETABLE PRODUCTION FARM LOCATED IN THE CITY.
NOW BOTH SIDES, UH, HAVE PRESENTED VERY COMPELLING ARGUMENTS AND ALL HONESTY.
THEY'RE BOTH RIGHT, BUT THEY'RE WRONG IN THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THIS STUFF? LIKE IN MY OPINION, RIGHT? DO YOU ALL HAVE TO DECIDE WHEN OLD TOWN LEANNA FARMER'S MARKET STARTED? I WAS ONE OF THEIR STAR VENDORS BECAUSE WHY NOT? IT'S LEANDER.
I DON'T SEE A FIT FOR IT ANYMORE.
I'M JUST A COUPLE OF BLOCKS AWAY.
IT'S SOLITARY, RIGHT? SINGLE UNIT.
I SELL FROM THE PROPERTY WHERE THE FOOD IS PRODUCED.
UM, BUT THERE'S SOME CURIOSITY IN MY MINDS ABOUT THESE PERMITS THAT THESE TWO ENTITIES REQUESTED A SPECIAL USE PERMITS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, ALL ENCOMPASSING OR SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
LET ME PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT I WANT TO DO, RIGHT? YOU ALL MAY HAVE, OR MAY NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M CONTEMPLATING.
WHY, WHY NOT? IF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS ALL ENCOMPASSING, THEN THE AMENDMENTS MADE TO THOSE SPECIAL USE PERMITS ARE ALL INCLUSIVE DOWN THE LINE.
ANYBODY WHO USES THAT SPECIAL USE PERMIT SHOULD OBTAIN THE REQUIREMENTS OR THE AMENDMENTS UNDERNEATH IT.
BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT YOU ALL CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS TO WHAT END TO WHAT ENDS IS THIS STOP? IF YOU ALL CHOOSE TO SAY, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THAT TO WHAT END.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES NORTH OF THEM.
THEY MAY STILL WALK HOME, OR THEY MAY NOT, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU ALL SAID AS THE PRESIDENT TODAY, RIGHT? IF I CHOOSE TO DO A FARMER'S MARKET FROM MY FARM, AM I ALLOWED TO DO THAT? BECAUSE YOU ALL SAID, NO, WHAT'S THE PROXIMITY.
I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
YOU'LL HAVE A LITTLE HARD DECISION TO MAKE ME PERSONALLY.
I WOULD JUST SAY, LET THE CUSTOMER DECIDE.
LET THE MARKET FREE FOR ALL WINNERS.
UNFORTUNATELY, YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO CREATE A MONOPOLY EITHER.
THAT'S WHAT MAY HAPPEN IF YOU ALL CHOOSE.
NO, YOU'RE JUST CHOOSING ONE MARKET.
HOW FAR DOES THAT TRICKLE DOWN? THERE'S OTHER SEVERAL MARKETS IN TOWN.
DO THEIR PERMISSIONS TO GET COOLED.
THANK YOU, MR. THOMAS, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU FILL OUT A CARD IN THE LOBBY AND GIVE IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY.
WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK? OKAY.
MS. SPONSLER YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES,
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PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THAT'S SPAWN SELLER 4 0 2 HERNANDO'S LOOP.
SO, UM, ON THAT, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT COYOTE, MOON COFFEE TRIED TO OPEN A BRICK AND MORTAR COFFEE SHOP IN OUR CITY BECAUSE HE DOES LOVE LEANDER.
AND OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM TOLD THEM THAT HE COULDN'T BECAUSE CASA COSA WAS IN OLD TOWN.
SO IF OUR GOVERNMENT AND OUR CITY CAN SAY, NO, WE ALREADY HAVE A COFFEE SHOP.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A SECOND COFFEE SHOP.
UM, THEN, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE CAN SAY, NO, IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST TO HAVE TWO FARMER'S MARKETS RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE REGARDING SPECIAL USE CASE 21 T O D S U 0 0 3 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY COUNSEL.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHO HAS THE ANSWERS TO THIS, BUT THE STORY THAT I, THAT I HEARD, UM, ROBIN, IS THIS YOU OR YOU HAVE THE HISTORY.
UM, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF, IF THE GENTLEMEN WITH THE, WITH THE COFFEE CART HAS BEEN OPERATING THERE FOR A YEAR, DID I UNDERSTAND AND WENT TO RENEW? HOW WAS HE ABLE TO OPERATE IN THE, TO BEGIN WITH? AND WHAT IS IT THAT CHANGED WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT DID NOT ALLOW THEM TO RENEW? THAT WAS NOT CLEAR? DO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION? SORRY.
SO, UM, I, I DON'T REPRESENT THE COUNTY, SO I'M NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE REGULATIONS, BUT, UM, WE DO HAVE A EMAIL FROM, UM, I THINK HER NAME IS JOE VET WITH THE COUNTY WHERE SHE KIND OF EXPLAINED WHAT WAS HAPPENING, BUT I THINK THEY DID ISSUE A PERMIT.
AND WHEN THEY CAME IN FOR A RENEWAL, THEY DID SAY THAT THEY COULD NOT DO IT.
UM, I THINK THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE PERMITTED TO DO A FARMER'S MARKET ALREADY.
UM, I CAN PULL UP THE EMAIL REAL QUICK AND TRY TO READ IT IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED.
BUT THE, THE GENERAL ISSUE IS THE COUNTY SAYING THAT CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE.
AND, UM, THE, THE SOLUTION WE CAME UP WITH WAS CHANGING THIS, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE FARMER'S MARKET.
THE COUNTY CAN ISSUE THEIR PERMIT AND EVERYTHING IS OKAY.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME MISSING INFORMATION HERE AND THAT IF WE, IF WE MAKE A DECISION BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD, I DON'T THINK WE'VE HEARD EVERYTHING.
THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW.
SO THE DECISION SHOULD BE BASED ON THE LAND USE.
SO IS THIS AN APPROPRIATELY AND YOU SET THIS SITE, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY WERE DOING SOMETHING WRONG OR RIGHT.
IT'S IS IT SOMETHING THE CITY WANTS TO SEE AT THAT LOCATION OR A FARMER'S MARKET, IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE THERE? LIKE, IF YOU THINK THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT.
UM, SO, AND LET ME BACK UP BEFORE I, I, I GO TO MY THOUGHT THERE, THERE WAS MENTION OF SOME, SOME COMPLAINTS THAT WERE FILED AGAINST A WILDFIRE AND, AND THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT THIS UP.
DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY DETAILS ON THAT? BECAUSE IT SEEMS VERY, IT SEEMS VERY PERSONAL AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS CAN BE A VERY EMOTIONAL THING AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T DO EMOTIONS UP HERE.
SO, UM, I, I DID, I DID SPEAK WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT BEFORE THE MEETING TONIGHT.
UM, THEY DID GO TO THE SITE AND, UM, TELL THEM THE ISSUES WITH THE USE AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
THEY DON'T ACTUALLY GIVE A CITATION AND TAKE PEOPLE TO COURT WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER TO GET TO A SOLUTION.
UM, SO THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW IT WAS LEFT.
WE WORKED WITH THE COUNTY, WE CAME UP WITH THE PILLAR PERMIT OPTIONS SO THAT THEY COULD CONTINUE WHILE WE WORKED THROUGH THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO MY, MY THOUGHT, AND THIS IS, I WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY.
SO IN, IN THE, THE, THE CONCEPT OF HAVING COMPETITION, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SITUATION HERE IN OLD TOWN AND I'M NOT SAYING ONE IS WHAT'S RIGHT, AND WHAT'S WRONG.
AND IT'S JUST, UH, JUST WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON.
WE HAVE COMPETING BUSINESSES THAT, THAT OPEN, UM, AND IS THAT OKAY? SURE.
AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD REALLY ARGUE WITH THAT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE A BAR IN A RESTAURANT ACROSS THE STREET FROM A BAR AND A RESTAURANT, BUT IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THEY'RE NOT THE SAME BAR AND RESTAURANT, SO THAT I THINK MAY BE WHERE THAT THE LINES ARE GETTING BLURRED A LITTLE BIT.
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SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT THING IS TO DO.SO THAT'S, I WANT MORE INFORMATION SO WE CAN MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR, FOR EVERYONE.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
SO I'M, I'M ASKING FOR MORE INFORMATION AND QUESTIONS AND SOMETHING THAT I HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF, AND THAT WE HAVE NOT HEARD YET.
SO IF YOU HAVE THAT, LET ME KNOW IF YOU CAN CHECK THAT EMAIL AND GET DOWN TO THAT'S IT, IF THAT HELPS, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE GIST OF IT IS THAT MAYBE THE COUNTY MESSED UP WHEN THEY FIRST ISSUED THE PERMIT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING COULD HAVE HAPPENED.
SO THEY DUMPED THEIR MESS UP ON US.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE ALL TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM WITH THE COUNTY AND TRY TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO FIX IT.
SO I DON'T THINK THEY MEANT TO DO THAT.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO FIND A GOOD SOLUTION TO, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
ANY COUNCIL GROUP, ITALIAN PASSWORD, THOSE EMAILS THAT MS. GRIFFIN'S REFERRING TO.
I SENT THOSE OUT TO THE COUNCIL THIS MORNING AT 8:30 AM.
IS THERE A SUBJECT WHERE I CAN REVIEW WHILE OTHER PEOPLE TELL US AGENDA QUESTIONS? OKAY, PERFECT.
UM, DIRECTOR GRIFFIN, IS THERE ANY ISSUE IN OUR THAT SAYS, UM, THERE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN DISTANCE BETWEEN WHITE BUSINESSES IF WE'RE CHANGING ZONING OR IT CAN SEEM LIKE THAT.
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IS, UM, WE APPROVED GENERAL COMMERCIAL OVER THE CITY AND YOU GET THOSE SITUATIONS WITH LIKE CVS AND WALGREENS ACROSS THE STREET AND THEN HOME DEPOT.
AND LOWE'S, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT JUST HAPPEN THAT WAY, BUT WE DON'T CONSIDER THAT.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE HOMEOWNER.
IS THERE A SIGN ON YOUR PROPERTY? BECAUSE I KNOW SOMEBODY MENTIONED IT WAS NOT A SIGN.
DO YOU HAVE A SIGN THAT SAYS WILDFIRE? YEAH.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SIGNS.
I HAVE A LARGE, UM, ONE THAT SAYS WILDFIRE ARTISANS.
UM, THE TACO LADY HAS A SIGN DITCHING.
AND THEN WE HAVE OUR BNBS, SO, UM, BUT NOT ASSIGNED FOR THEIR STUFF, BUT FOR YOUR, YEAH.
I MEAN, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A FARMER'S MARKET RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE THE PERMIT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE IN, I MEAN, FROM MY VIEWPOINT THERE'S WE ARE ALREADY AT FOOD AND RETAIL PARK, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE SELLING FOOD, WE'RE SELLING RETAIL ITEMS. UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DO HAVE OUR B AND B'S ON THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN WE HAVE PERMISSION FOR THE CRUSHED GRANITE DRIVEWAY, THE RIGHT OF BAGHDAD RIGHT OF WAY.
DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S KIND OF AN ISSUE WHERE PEOPLE CANNOT DIFFERENTIATE YOUR PROPERTY FROM THEIR PROPERTY.
SO JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YEAH, OUR, OUR PROPERTY IS, IS ADJACENT TO THERE'S.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT IN BETWEEN US THAT IS USED FOR PARKING.
SO THERE'S WILDFIRE PARK, WHICH, UH, SO THERE'S THE BAGHDAD RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEN THERE'S WILDFIRE PARK AND THEN THERE'S THEIR PARKING, UH, NEXT DOOR AND THEN, UM, SMOOTHIE VILLAGE.
SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT, WE'RE ADJACENT, WE'RE NEIGHBORS, ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE FENCE THAT WAS IN BETWEEN THE BARBERS? YOU KNOW, THE FENCE WHEN WE FIRST BOUGHT, UM, OUR PROPERTY, LIKE FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO, I FORGET WHAT YEAR THAT WAS.
UM, THERE WAS AN OLD HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY AND, UH, WE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WERE AROUND TO REMEMBER WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE, BUT IT WAS OVERGROWN AND THE HOUSE HAD TO BE REMOVED.
UM, THERE WAS, WE, WE CLEARED ALL THE WAY BACK.
IT WAS FILLED WITH THORNS AND POISON OAK AND ALL KINDS OF JUNK.
WE, UH, SO ANYWAY, WE, WE HAD, WE HIRED THAT TO BE CLEARED.
THERE IS STILL A FENCE, THE EXISTS, THE, THE FENCE THEY'RE SPEAKING OF, GOES FROM THE VERY BACK EDGE OF THE PROPERTY BACK BY THE, WHERE THE CREEK IS ALL THE WAY UP TO BEHIND WHERE OUR SECOND, UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A MAP THAT, UH, OUR SECOND BNB IS THE ONLY THING.
THE ONLY PORTION OF FENCE THAT WAS REMOVED WAS THREE STRANDS OF BARBED WIRE THAT WAS ALREADY LAYING ON THE GROUND.
UM, WE, WE CONTACTED THE OWNERS, UM, THE OWNER THAT SMOOTHIE VILLAGE HAS A LEASE.
UM, SO THEY DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY, BUT WE CONTACTED THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND ASKED IF HE WOULD LIKE TO CLEAR THE WHOLE THING.
CAUSE THE FENCE LINE WAS FULL OF BRIARS AND POPE POISON, OAK AND EVERYTHING.
AND SO HE SAID, NO, HE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
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PLACE.THE ONLY PORTION OF FENCE THAT WAS REMOVED WAS RIGHT BEHIND TOWARDS THE FRONT.
UH, THERE WAS NO FENCE AT THE VERY FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
THERE WAS A SMALL PORTION OF A FENCE BEHIND ONE OF OUR BNBS.
UM, THAT, I MEAN, IT WAS LITERALLY, WE JUST, WE TOOK THE BARBED WIRE DOWN.
IT WAS NOT ANYTHING TO SPEAK OF.
WE HAVE, I, I'M PRETTY SURE WE HAVE PICTURES OF IT.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, WE, UH, JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU DID REMOVE A PORTION OF THE FENCE.
WELL, WE WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE TALKING IN THE GALLERY, THE BAR, THE BARB WIRE, THERE WAS AN OLD IT'S LITERALLY IF, IF YOU COULD SEE, UM, THE BARBED WIRE FENCE, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, THERE WAS, UM, IT WAS BARELY EXISTING.
THAT'S THE ONLY, IT WAS HAZARDOUS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, THERE WAS PIECES OF IT UP IN THE AIR, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT WAS MORE OF A HAZARD THAN ANYTHING, NOT THE ONLY PIECE THAT WE REMOVED.
WE HEARD ABOUT RESTROOMS AND I KNEW I'VE HAD ZANE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SMOOTH VILLAGE RESTAURANTS.
HOW ARE THEY, HOW ARE THEY ADDRESSING? SO, UM, WHEN, WHEN WE FIRST PERMITTED THE, THE TACO TACO TRUCK, THE FIRST ONE, UM, THE STAFF WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THEY WERE SHARING THE RESTROOM, A SMITH VILLAGE.
SO I THINK CURRENTLY SHE HAS A PORTA-POTTY AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS A TRAILER WITH A RESTROOM ON THE SITE.
UM, SO WE ARE WORKING ON A SOLUTION TO THAT ONE.
CAN I MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT? UH, WE WENT IN WITH SMOOTH VILLAGE AND PURCHASE.
WE HAVE OUR CLEAR CHECKS, BUT, UH, INSTEAD OF US BUILDING OUR OWN BATHROOM, WE WENT IN WITH THEM AND WE SHARED BATHROOMS UNTIL WE, UM, FILED THAT OUR TACO TRUCK, SHE FILED FOR HER PERMIT.
AND THAT IS WHEN I GOT THE SURPRISE SAYING YOU DO NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO OPERATE.
I MEAN, TO USE OUR BATHROOMS ANY LONGER.
SO THAT'S WHEN WE, UM, ASKED FOR TIME TO GET A BATHROOM TOGETHER.
AND SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, A PERMIT ALREADY WAITING WITH THE CITY.
SO IT'S, IT'S IN PLACE ON THE PROPERTY.
WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR OUR INSPECTIONS AND IT WILL BE OUR OWN BATHROOM.
NO, I'M, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID HERE AND I LOVE THE PEOPLE AT SMITH VILLAGE AND I LOVE WHAT WE'RE DOING DOWN HERE AS WELL, TOO.
I WISH THAT THERE WAS A BETTER WAY TO GET ALONG.
AND THE ONE THING I LEARNED IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS OF DOING THIS, IT JUST DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S REALLY, IT MAKES IT REALLY HARD TO EVEN WANT TO GET UP HERE AND TO DO STUFF LIKE THIS TOO, WHEN YOU LOVE PEOPLE.
I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY REALLY, UM, FROM YOUR PROJECT, I PROBABLY ACCIDENTALLY PARKED ON YOUR PROJECT BEFORE, WHEN I'M GOING OVER THERE.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DIFFERENTIATE YOURSELF.
I JUST WISH THERE WAS A BETTER WAY.
AND THEN IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NO POSSIBLE WAY THAT WE CAN TELL, UH, A LANDOWNER NEXT DOOR THAT NO, YOU CAN'T, IF WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING.
AND I WISH THAT YOU WOULD FIND A WAY I'M JUST REALLY ENCOURAGING.
I GUESS THAT'S WHAT MY COMMENTS GOING TO BE.
I'M REALLY ENCOURAGING YOU THAT I DON'T CARE WHAT THE HELL HAS HAPPENED BEFORE.
I'M JUST REALLY ENCOURAGING YOU TO FIND A WAY TO WORK TOGETHER.
CAUSE THIS COULD BE PRETTY AWESOME FOR US TO SUPPORT DECISIONS THAT WE'VE MADE UP HERE TRYING TO SUPPORT YOU.
EVEN WHEN OTHER PEOPLE SAY THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET ARE SAYING, YOU'RE TOO LOUD.
AND WE'RE SAYING, NO, THIS IS AWESOME FOR OUR CITY.
WE REALLY WANT THIS TO WORK OUT.
AND SO I'M JUST REALLY ENCOURAGING TO FIND A WAY TO SOMEHOW MAKE THAT WORK.
UM, BUT THERE'S NO WAY THAT I CAN NOT.
UM, AND AGAIN, W FROM WHAT, WHAT, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS NOW THE NEW TITLE.
I'M GETTING USED TO, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
LIKE THIS IS A SIMPLE, THIS IS A USE CASE.
THIS ISN'T WHAT THEY DID OR WHAT THEY DIDN'T DO THING.
AND SO I HAVE TO BE BLACK AND WHITE HERE.
AND SO I'M JUST REALLY ENCOURAGING YOU GUYS TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
SOMEHOW FIND A WAY SO THAT WE CAN ALL GO DOWN THERE.
AND WE DON'T FEEL THAT TENSION WHEN WE BRING OUR KIDS DOWN THERE, LIKE IT ALL ALTOGETHER.
I LOVE BRINGING MY, MY, MY DAUGHTER CHOSE TO GO TO SMOOTHIE VILLAGE, TO GO DANCING AND TO GO DO ALL THESE THINGS DOWN THERE.
AND SO, UM, I JUST REALLY ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO FIGURE IT OUT.
OKAY, I'M GOING TO BUILD ON COUNCIL MEMBERS OR NEXT COMMENTS, COMMENTS, A LITTLE BIT, NAME IT A LITTLE MORE THIS WAY.
UM, WHAT WE'RE TASKED WITH TONIGHT IS DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT IT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE OF THE LAND, WHICH GIVEN THAT NEXT DOOR, IT IS APPROPRIATE.
IT'S HARD FOR US TO SAY THAT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE
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HERE, BUT MOST OF WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT IS A CIVIL MATTER THAT WE CANNOT ENFORCE.UM, AND I THINK THAT THERE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A VERY GOOD CASE FOR A CIVIL MATTER MADE.
UM, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE CAN'T REALLY TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE WHO VIEW TO TRY AND DIFFERENTIATE YOURSELF, UM, BECAUSE THIS BAD BLOOD BETWEEN Y'ALL AND, AND HOW PEOPLE CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE AND IT'S COMPETITION.
MY 2 CENTS COUNSEL, ANYTHING ELSE? DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION? I SPOKE UP ON MY MOTION TO APPROVE ALL SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, OPPOSED.
KEVIN, I'M STILL HEARING THE WORDS AND YOU GOT SOME, OKAY.
WE'LL BE IN RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES.
WE ARE BACK IN SESSION AT 8:36 PM.
[21. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Subdivision Case 21-CP-009 to adopt the Leander Estates Concept Plan on three (3) parcels of land approximately 210.6 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R560185 and R560184; and Travis Central Appraisal District Parcel 905245; generally located at the northwest corner of CR 280 and the future extension of Lakeline Boulevard., Leander, Williamson and Travis Counties, Texas. [Postponed by applicant.]]
HAS BEEN POSTPONED BY THE APPLICANTS.[22. Discuss and consider action on the Second Reading of an Ordinance regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-027 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to GC-2-B (General Commercial) on six (6) parcels of land approximately 94.689 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R031351, R031347, R462377, R031280, portion of R031279, and R031286; and more commonly known as 3345, 3549, 3919, 3957 Hero Way, 8330 RR 2243, and 17501 Ronald W. Reagan Boulevard, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. ]
THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM 20 TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 0 2 7, TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR, ONE B SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL TO GC TO BE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON SIX PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 94.689 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.GRIFFIN, WELCOME TO THANK YOU.
UM, SO THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE, UM, IN YOUR PACKET, WE'VE UPDATED THE ORDINANCE AND THE EXHIBIT TO SHOW THE PROPOSAL BY THE COUNCIL.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, UM, WE'VE PULLED THE, THE PROPERTIES OUT OF THE ZONING REQUESTS THAT WERE ADJACENT TO HERE WAY, AND WE'VE ALSO REMOVED THE TOWNHOUSES.
UM, I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANTS HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A SECOND MUSH AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OPPOSED PASSES 61 ITEM 23
[23. Discuss and consider action on an Ordinance amending the Parks and Recreation Department User Fees Policy establishing new Crystal Falls Golf Club green fees, membership dues and associated rate plans; providing for severability, an open meeting clause, an effective date; and providing for related matters.]
DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ON ORDINANCE AMENDING THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, USER FEES, POLICY ESTABLISHING NEW CRYSTAL FALLS, GOLF CLUB, GREEN FEES, MEMBERSHIP DUES, AND ASSOCIATED RATE PLANS PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND OPEN MEETINGS CLAUSE AND EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING FOR RELATED MATTERS, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR TIMMINS.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, I WON'T BE HERE, BUT A SECOND.
I'M GOING TO TURN OVER, UH, OUR GENERAL MANAGER LAYER WARNER, BUT ONE TO SHARE THAT HE, UH, IN YOUR PACKET, HE DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB ON PUTTING TOGETHER A MARKET RATE ANALYSIS OF, OF OUR AREA, UH, AND JUST AS FEW SHORT WEEKS OF BEING HERE AND, UH, HAS A RECOMMENDATION TO, TO MAKE AND PRESENT TO YOU.
SO I'M GOING TO TURN OVER TO LARRY AT THIS TIME.
UM, JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY GO OVER SOME OF THE THINGS, SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS OF THIS WON'T BE LEGERE THE POINT.
UM, ESSENTIALLY I DID A MARKET ANALYSIS RIGHT AWAY, AS SOON AS I GOT HERE, I JUST STARTED LOOKING AT REVENUE AND START LOOKING AT EXPENSES.
THAT'S JUST WHAT YOU DO AT A BUSINESS.
UM, I FOUND THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT WERE, I WOULD LIKE TO WORK THROUGH.
UM, WE'RE VASTLY, UM, UH, WE'RE NOT CHARGING FOLKS ENOUGH TO PLAY GOLF.
ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE REALLY DOWN ON THE SCALE, UH, IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR GREEN FEES ARE, UH, COMPARED TO OTHER COURSES IN THE AREA.
UM, SO THAT, THAT PRESENTS SOME UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US, BUT IT ALSO PRESENTS SOME CHALLENGES.
UM, WE ARE A MUNICIPAL COURSE, A LOT OF MUNICIPAL COURSES, UH, SUCH AS TORREY PINES AND, UH, SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT I MENTIONED IN, IN THIS, UM, THEY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT RATES.
THEY HAVE A RESONANT RATE AND THEN THEY HAVE A PUBLIC RATE.
AND I THINK WE'RE IN A REALLY, REALLY GOOD POSITION TO DO THAT HERE.
THE GOLF COURSE IS IN GREAT SHAPE.
IT DOES NEED SOME IMPROVEMENT.
WE'LL GET TO THAT DOWN THE ROAD A PIECE.
BUT, UM, SO AS AN ENTERPRISE, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, GENERATE REVENUE FROM THIS GOLF COURSE.
UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN WELL TO, TO, TO THE CITIZENS THAT WE ENTER AND THE CITY.
UH, SO MY PROPOSAL FOR THAT IS, UM, MAKING A CITY WITH LAND OR RATE AND THEN MAKING A PUBLIC RATE.
UH, THE CITY OF ATLANTA RATE WOULD, WOULD ESSENTIALLY STAY THE SAME WITH A FEW ADJUSTMENTS MADE TO GET SOME EQUITY, UH, TO WHERE WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, THERE WERE SOME KIND OF STRANGE RATES, SO JUST KIND OF REALIGNED THEM.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK, UH, UH, YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE A LIGHT BUMP.
UM, WE TOOK THE RATES FROM FRIDAY AND FOLD THOSE INTO THE WEEKEND.
UH, THOSE ARE FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY BEING THE SAME RATES ALL THE TIME.
UH, THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL IN THE INDUSTRY, MOST GOLF COURSES AROUND HERE DO THAT.
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UM, AND THEN, UH, SO THEN WE SEPARATE THOSE RATES AND WE DO A PUBLIC RATE THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BUMP.AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE ON THE WEEKENDS, WE'RE ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO 30 BUCKS, LESS THAN MOST GOLF COURSES AROUND HERE.
UM, AND WE HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T BE CHARGING AT LEAST THE GENERAL PUBLIC MORE THAN THAT.
UM, NOW THAT WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS WE KEEP THE RATES ABOUT THE SAME FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER RESIDENTS.
LIKE I SAID, WITH A FEW ADJUSTMENTS, WE GO UP WITH A MILD BUMP ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF BUCKS ON AVERAGE, UM, ON A GREEN FEE AVERAGE, AND JUST SLOWLY MOVE INTO THAT, UH, FOR GENERAL PUBLIC.
NOW, WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO KEEP MOVING UP OVER TIME, UH, TO, TO GENERAL PUBLIC AND THEN SLOWLY MOVE THINGS FURTHER.
SO THAT WE'RE RIGHT PLACE IN THE MARKET.
BUT IT DOES ALSO CREATE AN ISSUE WHERE THERE MAY BE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE LONGTIME, UH, PLAYERS OF THE COURSE THAT ARE USED TO THOSE LOW RATES, BUT THEY'RE NOT RESIDENTS.
SO PROPOSAL FOR THAT IS TO START, WHAT'S CALLED THE CRYSTAL CLUB AND YOU CAN BUY INTO IT.
YOU CAN GET SOME OF THE SAME, YOU CAN GET THE SAME RATES AS, AS CITY RESIDENTS, BUT NOT ALL THE BENEFITS THAT THEY GET.
UM, SO, AND THEN WE LOOKED INTO THE, UH, MEMBERSHIPS, THERE WAS SOME INEQUITY IN THE MEMBERSHIPS IN THAT, UH, THAT THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT WOULD TAKE THE AMOUNT OF AMOUNT OF ROUNDS IT WOULD TAKE FOR A REGULAR PLAYER, UH, TO ESSENTIALLY GET TO BREAK EVEN ON THEIR INVESTMENT.
AND THE MEMBERSHIP DUES, UH, WAS MUCH SHORTER THAN IT WAS FOR THE SENIOR PLAYER, 60 AND OVER.
SO WE DID, AS WE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS THERE, DROPPED THE SENIOR RATE DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE REGULAR RATE UP A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN, UM, ALSO ENCOMPASSED A, UM, CART BUYOUT PROGRAM THAT WAS DESIGNED FOR THE, THE SENIOR REC, THE SENIOR PLAYERS AND THE REGULAR PLAYERS THAT DON'T OWN THEIR OWN CARTS TO BUY OUT THE CART USAGE FOR A YEAR.
AND THAT WASN'T THERE, BUT IT WAS THERE FOR FOLKS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN CARDS IN TERMS OF TRAIL FEES.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY A, A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY.
YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF GREAT THINGS GOING ON OUT THERE AND HAVING THE ABILITY TO GET OTHER FOLKS OUT HERE TO SEE IT, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM OTHER AREAS IN AUSTIN TO COME SEE IT, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GETTING IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD.
UM, AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTATION GOES, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY UP TO YOU.
I THINK THAT, UH, BASED ON APPROVAL, UH, WITH THE MEMBERSHIP RATES, WE'LL, WE'LL PUSH THOSE OUT RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE, UH, THE MEMBERS HERE ARE TYPICALLY USED TO DOING THIS IN OCTOBER 1ST OF THE YEAR.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HELD THAT OFF UNTIL WE THIS MEETING, UH, AND THEN WE'LL DO A NOTIFICATION PROGRAM OUT, UH, TO OUR DATABASE AND THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING RIGHT NOW TO LET FOLKS KNOW WHEN THE RATES ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO UP PROBABLY 30 DAYS AND MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ACTUALLY, I HAVE A QUESTION, SORRY.
SO HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING THE GOLF COURSE? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING IT OUTSIDE OF LEANDER? I CAN'T SEE THAT IN YOUR, NO, IT'S D IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO TELL, UM, THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE, THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS HAVEN'T BEEN TRACKED TO THIS POINT.
UM, SO I, I WENT IN THERE AND LOOKED FOR ZIP CODES AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND SO IT, WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA.
IT'S JUST, HADN'T BEEN TRACKED.
SO THAT'S HOW THAT'S THE CRYSTAL CLUB IS JUST FOR THAT REASON.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY GONNA USE THAT, BUT W BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW, WE'LL BE TRACKING IT MOVING FORWARD, THOUGH.
HAPPY TO SEE A SENIOR RATE, TELL YOU THAT.
HOW, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DETERMINE THE, YOU, I WAS, SORRY.
YOU MAY HAVE JUST ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
HOW, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHO'S IN LEANDER AND WHO'S NOT? UM, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH MARTIN, UM, WATER DEPARTMENT WATERVILLE, UH, WHEN THEY WANT TO COME IN FOR THE INITIAL SIGNUP, THEY BRING THEIR WATER BILL AND THEIR ID.
OBVIOUSLY I CAN LAND A RESIDENT.
THAT'D BE GOOD FOR ONE YEAR, AND THEN THEY'LL COME BACK AROUND TO RENEWAL EVERY YEAR.
SO IF YOU MOVE OUT OF THE AREA, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STILL A RESIDENT FOR A MEMBERSHIP OR FOR, JUST FOR LEANDER.
SO, SO I LIVE IN LEANDER AND I HAVE 10 FRIENDS OR 11 FRIENDS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, 12 PEOPLE PLAYING.
I BOOK IT, BUT THEY'RE ALL OUT OF TALENT.
HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT WORK? NO, NO, AND THAT'S FINE.
THEY'LL GET THE REGULAR PUBLIC READ AND YOU'LL GET THE LAND.
AND BECAUSE WE'LL GO INTO THE UNIT CHECK EVERYBODY'S OH, YOU BET.
ONCE WE GO INTO THE SYSTEM, BECAUSE YOU'RE, I MEAN, YOU'LL HAVE THE, YOU'LL HAVE THE MOTIVATION TO HAVE THAT DISCOUNT.
WE'LL PUT YOU INTO THE POINT OF SALE SYSTEM AS A RESIDENT, SO IT'LL POP UP AND AUTOMATICALLY POPULATE THAT RATE FOR YOU.
SO I WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD GET THAT DISCOUNT.
I WOULD SUGGEST SINCE Y'ALL PUT A POLICY IN PLACE AND OR IF SOMEBODY HAS A DRIVER'S LICENSE AND IT HASN'T LANDED RESONANCE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BRING YOU A WATER BILL.
IF THEIR, IF THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE IS OUT OF THE CITY AND IT SAYS FEEDER PARK OR AUSTIN OR SOMETHING, AND ENSURE THE WATER BILL THING, BUT DON'T PUT THAT WATERMILL BURDEN.
WELL, THE ISSUE COMES IN WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LEANDRA ADDRESS, BUT AREN'T ACTUALLY IN THE CITY LIMITS LIKE ETJ.
WHAT I'M HEARING IS BASICALLY A REPLICATION OF THE LIBRARY
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POLICY OF USING THE WATER BILL, UM, OR LOOKING IT UP, I'M GUESSING YOU COULD LOOK IT UP ON THE CAD SYSTEM AS WELL.WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE RIGHT PEOPLE GET THROUGH, GET THE BREAK.
I'LL TAKE ANY SUGGESTIONS TO THAT FOR SURE.
DO WE CARE IF THEY'RE IN THE ETJ? DO YOU CARE IF THEY'RE THE ETJ ETJ? YES.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE WATER BILL.
JUST LOOK AT THE DRIVER'S LIKE DRIVER'S LICENSE IS FINE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I WOULD WELCOME ANY OF THAT COMING IN SO EASIER WITH AN ID.
WELL, WE WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T MAKE THEM DO IT EVERY TIME.
IF LIKE, IF THERE WAS ANY QUESTION I DON'T WANT TO BE GIVEN BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT AND SAY, YOU COME BACK AGAIN NEXT TIME.
JUST MAKE SURE YOU BRING IT OTHERWISE.
THE IDEA I SHOULDN'T REALLY, I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T HAVE, AND I WILL COME IN AND DO, WE DID GET A VERY NICE EMAIL FROM MR.
COULDN'T COME, BUT WISHED ME WELL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[24. Discuss and consider action on a revised annex meeting room policy for the City of Leander Public Library.]
ITEM 24, DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ON A REVISED ANNEX MEETING ROOM POLICY FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER, PUBLIC LIBRARY, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR COUNCIL.
UM, I'VE GOT A SHORT PRESENTATION, A POWERPOINT THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU, AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO DISCUSSION AS NEEDED.
UH, JUST WANT TO HIT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.
AND SO LET ME, LET ME GO THROUGH THIS.
AND, UM, CURRENT SPACE IS PRIMARILY USED FOR CITY, UH, LIBRARY AND PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS AND EVENTS, POLLING LOCATIONS, BOARDS, AND COMMISSION MEETINGS, HEALTH SCREENINGS USED BOOK FAIRS, SUMMER READING PROGRAMS, TAX PREPARATION, FITNESS PROGRAMS, YOUTH CAMPS, PANCAKES, AND PJ'S, AND MANY OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS AT THE AUGUST CITY COUNCIL RETREAT.
IT WAS SHARED WITH STAFF TO EXPLORE WAYS TO ALLOW GENERAL USE OF THE ANNEX ROOM FOR PUBLIC GATHERINGS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE DONE.
STAFF RESEARCH, A VARIETY OF SIMILAR SPACES USE USED, UH, USE SIMILAR SPACE USERS FROM OTHER LIBRARIES AND DEVELOP THE POLICY THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET FOR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.
SOME OF THE POLICY HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE HAVE IS DESIGNED TO MEET GENERAL INFORMATIONAL EDUCATIONAL AND CIVIC NEEDS DESIGNED.
UM, UH, ANY USE OF THE ROOM DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A CITY OF LEANDER ENDORSEMENT OF THE VIEWPOINTS EXPRESSED THE CITY LIBRARY AND PARKS AND RECREATION.
WE'LL HAVE FIRST PRIORITY OF USE TO MEET AND SUSTAIN THEIR MISSION.
AND INCLUDING PROGRAMS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC PUBLIC RESERVATIONS MAY BE MADE 15 TO 90 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THE EVENT THAT IS BEING HELD DURING THE LIBRARY, REGULAR HOURS OF OPERATION, AND THEN 45 TO 90 DAYS OUTSIDE OF LIBRARY, REGULAR HOURS.
AND BASICALLY THAT IS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE STAFF COVERAGE AND EVERYTHING LINED UP AND READY TO GO FOR THEM ON OUTSIDE OF THOSE ZONES, THAT TIMEFRAME RESERVATIONS ARE ACCEPTED ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS WITH PAYMENT OF RENTAL FEE AND DEPOSIT RENTERS RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGES UNDER OUR CLEANUP COSTS.
THE CITY LIBRARY CITY SLASH LIBRARY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE PROVIDING ANY SECURITY FOR THE APPLICANT GROUP OR ORGANIZATION.
FUTURE USE MAY BE DENIED TO INDIVIDUAL GROUPS THAT FAILED TO COMPLY WITH THE POLICIES.
IF PROPERTY IS DAMAGED OR THEY CAUSE A DISTURBANCE.
THIS WAS THE FEES THAT WERE PRESENTED TO YOU LAST MONTH.
UM, IT'S THERE IS A RESIDENT AND WE ADD ADDED THE, UH, NON-RESIDENT FEE AS WELL.
AND YOU CAN GO DOWN THROUGH THERE AND SEE THAT THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION PUBLIC ALL THE WAY DOWN FOR, FOR PROFIT OR PRIVATE ORGANIZATION, ALONG WITH THE SECURITY DAMAGE DEPOSIT.
AND IF YOU DECIDE, YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE AN ANNEX, THE USE OF THE KITCHENETTE OR NOT, THAT'S UP TO YOU.
THIS IS SOME OF THE ADVANCED BLOCKOUT DATES FROM BOTH PARKS AND RECREATION LIBRARY, INCLUDING OUR ACTIVE ADULT PROGRAMS. UH, THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET AS, AS WELL.
AND, UM, SO YOU CAN SEE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RECURRING ACTIVITIES, SOME OF THOSE ARE EVERY TUESDAY AND THURSDAY OR EVERY SATURDAY AT CERTAIN TIMES.
UH, AND, UH, IT MAY BE, UH, ACTIVE ADULTS THAT ARE HAVING AFTERNOON CRAFT CLASSES OR THEIR FITNESS CLASSES.
AND OF COURSE OUR FITNESS CLASSES ON MONDAY, TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS,
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AND THEN THERE'S SOME SINGLE ACTIVITIES.THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS IN, IN THE, UH, IN THE, IN THAT ANNEX ROOM, UH, THAT ARE JUST STAND ALONE TYPE OF, UM, ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING SUCH THINGS AS SPRING BREAK CAMP, UH, MASON DAYS, STAGING, UH, AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, BLOCKED OUT ALREADY.
BUT AS I MENTIONED, UH, EVEN AT THE RETREAT, THERE ARE SOME GAPS OBVIOUSLY.
AND SO THERE ARE SOME AREAS TO, TO FILL IN IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO DO THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE PRESENTED THIS POLICY TO YOU AND, UM, ALLOW DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS SIGNED UP.
UM, SO WE'LL CALL ON THEM AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO DISCUSSION QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. TIMMONS.
PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I LIVE AT 26 0 2 RUNNING WILD HERE IN THE ENDER.
AND I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY, UM, VOICE JUST A COUPLE OF BRIEF CITIZEN CONCERNS ABOUT THIS ITEM.
I THINK THAT IT'S, I'M, I'M KIND OF ON THE FENCE WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S GOOD TO OFFER PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE LIBRARY, BUT, UM, THERE IS A HISTORY THAT WE ARE ALL AWARE OF WITH THE, UH, WITH THIS LIBRARY.
AND I'M, I'M A FIRM BELIEVER THAT WE LEARNED FROM THE HISTORY.
AND, UM, I READ THROUGH IN DETAIL THE, UM, THE NEW POLICY AND, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN THERE THAT I, THAT I LIKED THE, THE THING ABOUT SECURITY BEING THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PERSON THAT REMAINS TO FACILITY.
THAT'S A REAL GOOD THING, BECAUSE AGAIN, FROM HISTORY, WE KNOW THAT WAS A VERY BIG EXPENSE TO LAST TIME.
AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS THE CONCERN TO THE COUNCIL THAT WE EXERCISE EXTREME JUDGMENT WHEN WE RENT THE FACILITY, PARTICULARLY WITH THINGS THAT ARE TWO THINGS, NUMBER ONE, SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITY.
NUMBER TWO THINGS THAT ARE LEGAL.
ONE THING THAT, UM, MANY OF US LEARNED FROM THAT LAST TIME WAS THAT THERE WAS THINGS THAT WAS DONE THAT WAS LEGALITY WAS QUESTIONABLE BECAUSE THERE WERE PEOPLE INVOLVED WHO SUBSEQUENTLY SUFFERED SOME LEGAL PROBLEMS WITH, UM, CHILD SEX CRIMES.
THAT'S MY CONCERN TO PRESENT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE JUST BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE USE PUBLIC FACILITIES.
THANK YOU, MR.
PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
HI, MY NAME IS BRANDY BERKMAN.
I LIVE AT 1814, EMERALD AL DRIVE.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TIME TO SPEAK.
I WANT TO, UH, LET YOU KNOW ABOUT MY CONCERNS REGARDING AGENDA ITEM 24.
I AM CONCERNED WITH THE PROPOSED POLICY CHANGES THAT WILL IMPACT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY ANNEX ROOM.
I'M FULLY AWARE OF THE CONTROVERSY THAT ENSUED TWO YEARS AGO.
AT THAT TIME, I WAS JUST BEING A TYPICAL PARENT, TRYING TO RAISE MY KIDS, EXPECTING THAT THEY WERE GETTING A GOOD EDUCATION THROUGH OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
I'M NOW FULLY AWARE THAT THAT IS NO LONGER OCCURRING.
I'M THE MOM THAT READ ALOUD EXCERPTS FROM THE BOOK LAWN.
BOY, I'LL SPARE THIS CROWD, THE QUOTES, BUT I'VE HEARD THAT THERE'S A VIDEO OUT THERE IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
MY CONCERN RESIDES WITH HOW THE CURRENT LIBRARY DIRECTOR HAS SUBMITTED HER SUPPORT OF THIS AWFUL BOOK IN QUOTES.
WE HAVE LAWN BOY ON THE SHELF AND IT'S STAYING ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER CHALLENGED BOOKS.
HOWEVER, I AM FOR APPROPRIATE READING MATERIAL FOR OUR MINOR CHILDREN.
I GUESS THAT THE LEANDER LIBRARY WANTS TO PROVIDE BOOKS LIKE THIS TO ADULTS.
THAT'S ONE THING, BUT I SURELY HOPE THAT IT'S NOT LOCATED IN THE CHILDREN'S SECTION, THE POLICY HANDS APPROVAL AUTHORITY OVER TO THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR.
I'M CONCERNED WITH THE LIBRARY, DIRECTOR'S ABILITY TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR CHILDREN.
AND THE LAST THING I WANT IS FOR OUR SLEEPY TOWN TO ONCE AGAIN, BE THRUST INTO NATIONAL NEWS FOR POOR DECISIONS.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OPENING THE LIBRARY ANNEX ROOM TO RENTALS, THEN AT THE VERY LEAST, I'D ADVISE YOU TO HAVE A MORE ROBUST APPROVAL PROCESS IN PLACE.
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I'VE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL? NO, I'M JUST MAKING A COMMENT THAT DURING, DURING MY CALL, UM, WHEN I WAS ASKING ABOUT THIS ITEM, OBVIOUSLY I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GONE ON IN THE CITY'S HISTORY AS WELL, TOO.
UM, BUT, UM, HAVE ASKED EVERYBODY IN EVERYBODY THAT WAS IN CHARGE OF, THEY WERE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS IN PLACE, INCLUDING OUR STAFF, THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE THINGS.
AND I WAS ASSURED THAT, UM, THAT WE WOULD JUST BE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS FOR THE CITY.
AND SO I CAN'T DETERMINE WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE.
IT'S REALLY TOUGH TO BE UP HERE AND TRY TO, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T SAY YES OR NO, AND A LOT OF THAT STUFF.
SO, UM, I VETTED OUR DECISION MAKING PROPHESIED AS, AS A CITY AND I'M GOING TO STAND BEHIND OUR STAFF, UM, AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE ON THIS ONE IS THAT EMOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL SECOND.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT TO JUST, UM, AS FOR ANYONE THAT IS NOT, NOT AWARE YES.
THAT WITHOUT GOING INTO THE, THE DETAILS THAT EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES MADE TO THE LIBRARY THAT WERE NOT IN EFFECT THERE OTHER THAN, UM, JUST CLOSING THE MEETING ROOMS. UM, THE LIBRARY IS NOW MANAGED BY CITY STAFF AND NOT A THIRD PARTY.
SO THAT IS CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT THAN, UH, HAVING IT MANAGED BY A THIRD PARTY.
UH, WITH THAT SAID THAT WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE, THE CITY STAFF DOES HAVE A LITTLE MORE CONTROL AND THE HANDS-ON APPROACH TO DOING THINGS.
I THINK WE'LL DO A MUCH BETTER JOB OF VETTING, ANY KIND OF EVENTS AND APPROVAL.
UM, I'LL ALSO ADD LOOKING AT THAT LIST.
I'D ALMOST LIKE TO SEE A LIST OF WHEN IS AVAILABLE, UH, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S MUCH AVAILABLE.
UM, SO I, I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE, WE CAN'T REALLY SAY HAVE A THREE STRIKES YOU'RE OUT RULE, BUT, UM, I, I DO HAVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT, ABOUT REOPENING THE, THE MEETING ROOMS AS, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT, IT HAS THE POTENTIAL, UM, TO OPEN US UP FOR, FOR SOME LIABILITIES.
AND I GUESS THAT GOES ALONG WITH ANYTHING.
SO I WAS ON THE SAME CALL WITH, WITH, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CERNAK AND, UH, DID GET THE IMPRESSION THAT OUR STAFF IS VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.
UM, SO WITH THAT WITH RESERVATION, I, I CAN APPRECIATE THE, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT I WANT, I WOULD LIKE THE, ANY, ANYONE THAT HAS ANY CONCERN, NO.
I SHARE YOUR CONCERN AND, UM, ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS THAT WE'VE HAD BEFORE, IT'S IT JUST CAN'T, IT CAN'T HAPPEN.
UM, SO I'M ASKING FOR YOUR DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE AND ENSURE THAT THAT, THAT IT DOES NOT HAPPEN.
I'M NOT SAYING WHAT YOU KNOW, WHERE I'M GOING ANYWAY.
AND THEN THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO THINK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, POST PASSES, SIX TO ONE.
[25. Discuss and consider action on a Resolution establishing a Boards, Commissions and Committees Rules of Procedure.]
DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION, ESTABLISHING A BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES RULES OF PROCEDURE, CITY, SECRETARY CRABTREE.WE DON'T SEE YOU ON HERE OFTEN.
YOU KNOW HOW EXCITED I GET ABOUT THAT? I DON'T THINK SO.
AT THE AUGUST 21ST, UM, I'M SORRY.
AT THE AUGUST, 2021 RETREAT CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSED ESTABLISH SOME RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR THE BOARDS, COMMISSION AND COMMITTEES.
WE USE THE CITY COUNCIL RULES PROCEDURES AS THE FRAMEWORK FOR CREATING THE RULES BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND THESE PARTICULAR RULES THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT, DO NOT KEEP BOARDS COMMISSIONS.
IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TITLE RULES FROM CREATING THEIR OWN RULES.
UM, WE DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS SIGNED UP FOR THIS.
STYLES, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
CAN YOU PUT THE ORDINANCE THE, UH, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING UP THERE SO PEOPLE CAN SEE IT.
IF THEY CAN'T PUT IT UP THERE, I THINK I CAN READ THE OFFENDING PART
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C C2, DR.FRANK STYLES, 41 80 HIGHWAY 180 3.
IF YOU WILL TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO SECTION C A TWO BOARD MEMBERS SHALL SHOW RESPECT AND COURTESY TO AND REFRAME FOR MAKING DISPARAGING COMMENTS ABOUT FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, THE PUBLIC CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF IN FRONT OF A BOARD AND MEETING OUTSIDE OF A BOARD MEETING IN SOCIAL SETTINGS AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
MY QUESTION IS WHY ISN'T THIS APPLICABLE TO THE COUNCIL AS WELL ARE FOR THAT MATTER CITY STAFF.
AND PROBABLY THE REASON HE IS, IS, UM, ALRIGHT, VIOLATES FIRST AMENDMENT.
I WAS CALLED BEFORE THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE FOR MAKING A COMMENT.
I THINK I CRITICIZED THE DEVELOPER THAT WAS GOING TO PUT SOMETHING IN AND HIS ENGINEERS SAID THAT THE INTERSECTION WAS ADEQUATE.
AND I SAID, TAKE YOUR PEOPLE OVER AND LET THEM LIVE FOR SIX MONTHS.
AND I BELIEVE YOU'LL HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.
I ALSO SAID THAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE GONE OVER TO THAT INTERSECTION AT FIVE O'CLOCK AS I CAN'T CONVOY.
AND TRY TO GO THROUGH THAT SECTION.
I WOULD PROBABLY BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSIONER OF DISPARAGING COMMENTS FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THE COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT UP THERE, UH, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LAND OR MARKETPLACE DEVELOPMENT ON, UM, HERO'S WAY, AND 180 3 SAID, THIS IS THE WORST DEVELOPMENT I'VE EVER SEEN.
THAT WAS HIS LEE REMARK RIGHT THERE.
HE'LL PROBABLY RE-UPPED ON THERE.
MY QUESTION IS WHO'S GOING TO MAKE THE DECISIONS ON WHAT IS DISPARAGING.
IS IT GOING TO BE HELD TO A STANDARD THAT EVERYBODY CAN APPROVE OF? OR IS IT GOING TO BE, IF YOU'RE ON MY SIDE OR THE OTHER SIDE, I AGREE WITH YOU.
WE SHOULD BE POLITE TO THE PEOPLE THAT COME BEFORE OUR BOARDS.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL.
AND I THINK A COMMISSIONER THAT IS NOT SHOULD BE SPOKEN TO, AND IF IT IS A CONTINUING PROBLEM, AND THIS COUNCIL DECIDES IT IS I THINK YOU SHOULD REMOVE THEM.
BUT A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, I THINK COULD VERY WELL BE SQUASHED BY THIS THING.
IT'S A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE OVERREACH.
ONE THING I WOULD SUGGEST FOR THE A P AND Z, HOWEVER, IS THERE'S A CONTINUING PREDILECTION TO MAKE ARCHITECTURAL SUGGESTIONS TO APPLICANTS BY PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO ARCHITECTURAL TRAINING.
AND YOU SHOULD TALK TO THEM ABOUT THAT.
SOMETIMES THEY MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT WE SHOULD DO THIS OR THAT, THAT IS STATE CITY STAFF'S COMMENTS.
HAVE I BEEN GUILTY OF DISPARAGING REMARKS? OF COURSE I HAVE, BUT EVERYONE UP HERE HAS TO.
SO WHO IS GOING TO BE THE COMMISSIONER THAT SAYS, WELL, PUT YOUR HAND OUT.
WE'LL SLAP IT TRUTHFULLY, IF IT IS SO EGREGIOUS, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO REMOVE SOMEONE THAT IS CONTINUALLY REWARDED, BUT THIS IS A BLATANT OVERREACH.
NEXT IS GERALD PRATER, MR. PETER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. MA MADAM MAYOR, GERALD PRATER, 26 0 2.
AND I REALLY WISH YOU WOULD'VE CALLED ME FIRST BECAUSE I'M PRETTY MUCH GOT THE SAME THING THAT THE DOCTOR SAID.
UM, WHEN I WENT THROUGH AND READ THIS ITEM C TWO, UM, NUMBER ONE, I FOUND IT SUBJECTIVE, VARIOUS OBJECTIVE, WHO DETERMINES WHAT IS OFFENSIVE.
THAT'S KIND OF A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
AND THEN NUMBER TWO, IT'S AN OBVIOUS VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT MINIMUM OF THE CONSTITUTION, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT REACHES INTO PERSONAL SOCIAL CONVERSATIONS.
UM, THESE ARE NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS, THEY'RE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
I COULD BE ON ONE OF THESE COMMITTEES AND I WOULD HAVE A TROUBLE WITH BEING TOLD.
I CAN'T TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH.
AND, UM, THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS OF DELIBERATION AND DISCUSSION IS HAVING THOSE TYPES OF DISAGREEMENTS AND TRYING TO FIND THAT COMMON GROUND WITH ADULTS WHO CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITHOUT RESULT RESISTS, ARE RESORTING TO PERSONAL ATTACKS.
AND WITH THAT, UM, AGAIN, A POINT THAT HE MADE IS THAT, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE HANDLED BY JUST VETTING CAREFULLY VETTING, WHO WE PUT ON COMMITTEES, LOOKING BASICALLY AT HISTORY OF THE TYPES OF, UH, BEHAVIOR AND ENGAGEMENT.
DON'T PUT THOSE KINDS OF PEOPLE ON COMMITTEES.
AND ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT? AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT ABOUT IS THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT
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WITHOUT GOING INTO, YOU KNOW, PERSONAL, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT I'D BE CONCERNED ABOUT PUTTING THEM ON A COMMITTEE AND THEN SAYING YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT PEOPLE THAT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH.BRANDY, BROOKLYN, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
BRANDY BERKMAN, 1814, EMERALD ALLEN DRIVE.
UM, I WANT TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25.
I'M NOT CERTAIN OF THE BACKGROUND, UH, BUT WHEN I READ THIS, THIS APPEARS TO BE AN ATTEMPT TO STIFLE FREE SPEECH.
AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, I'VE SPOKEN AT A FEW SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS RECENTLY AND I'VE WITNESSED THE ATTEMPT TO STIFLE FREE SPEECH.
MIKE'S SHORTENING TIME TO 90 SECONDS, NOT ALLOWING PARENTS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE MEETING.
THE ONLY REASON YOU WOULD EVER ATTEMPT TO STIFLE FREE SPEECH IS WHEN YOU DON'T WANT THE TRUTH TO BE KNOWN.
I DON'T AGREE WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS NO PERSONAL ATTACKS ON CITY COUNCILS, STAFF, OR EACH OTHER AS PUBLICLY ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THAT INCLUDES THE VOLUNTEERS THAT COME, UH, COMPRISE THESE COMMITTEES.
THE POLICY GOES ON TO DEFINE AS UP THERE, UH, GENERAL CONDUCT AND INCLUDES THAT BOARD MEMBERS SHALL REFRAIN FROM MAKING DISPARAGING COMMENTS ABOUT FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, THE PUBLIC CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF, AND THE CONDUCT OF A BOARD MEETING OUTSIDE OF BOARD MEETINGS IN SOCIAL SETTINGS AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
WHY ARE YOU ATTEMPTING TO VIOLATE ALL OF THESE VOLUNTEERS? FREEDOM OF SPEECH? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE THAT YOU DON'T WANT BROUGHT TO LIGHT? THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE WHEN I SEE LANGUAGE LIKE THIS AS AN ATTEMPT TO CENSOR.
I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK MR. DENNIS? GOOD EVENING.
PTMS AND I'M ONLY SPEAKING BECAUSE I APPLIED FOR ONE OF THESE POSITIONS.
UM, THIS BEGGARS AND COMMENTS.
I I'VE SEEN ALL THE REACTIONS THAT PEOPLE WERE COMING UP HERE.
IT SEEMED A LOT OF KNEE JERK REACTIONS.
THE ONE THING I DIDN'T HEAR WAS ANYBODY ASKS, WHAT WAS THE INTENT OF THIS PROCESS, RIGHT? WHAT ARE YOU ALL TRYING TO DO WITH THIS? NOBODY ASKED THAT IT'S AUTOMATIC ATTACK AND WE'RE IN THAT KIND OF STATE RIGHT NOW.
AND I THINK IN ME PERSON, AND I THINK THE ATTENTIVE, MAYBE THE WORDING'S WRONG, WHO KNOWS, BUT IT'S, YOU'RE VOLUNTEERING TO SHOW AND SHINE A BRIGHT LIGHT ON THE CITY THAT YOU WANT TO VOLUNTEER FOR.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT YOU WENT TO WORK WITH, THERE'S NO NEED TO GO AND HIT SOMEBODY IN THE KNEE OR SHINE A DARK LIGHT ON THAT ENTITY.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT REALLY IS.
IT'S NOT TO NOT SPEAK AGAINST YOUR FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER OR YOUR FELLOW CITIZEN IN A MATTER OF OPINION, BUT MORE SO IN A MATTER OF NEGATIVITY VERSUS POSITIVITY.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE REAL INTENT OF THIS IS.
SO, AND MAYBE ADJUST THE WORDING, LOOK FOR SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE SYNONYMOUS, BUT A LITTLE BIT KINDER, WHATEVER THE, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK I BELIEVE WITH THE ATTENDANCE, RIGHT? STOP BEATING UP OUR CITY WITH YOUR NEGATIVE ATTITUDES AND LET'S SHINE A BRIGHT LIGHT ON WHAT THIS CITY COULD ACTUALLY BE WORK, WORK TOGETHER.
THANK YOU, MR. TAMEZ, PLEASE REMEMBER TO FILL OUT A CARD.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
COUNSEL, WHO WANTS TO START EASY FIX? IT'S ALL ABOUT THAT ONE WORD.
SHOUT YOU STARTED THIS SHIT DONE SAY SHOULD, SHOULD.
AND JUST A SECOND POINT OF THAT TOO.
IT'S THE EXACT, EXACT, IT IS THE EXACT VERBIAGE THAT WAS PASSED FOR OUR COUNCIL RULES AND PROCEDURES.
SHOULD WE CHANGE THAT ONE TOO? SO, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE, WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD, WE'VE HEARD FOR TWO YEARS ABOUT HOW WE'RE TRYING TO CRUSH PEOPLE SPEAK.
I SAID, THAT'S A BUNCH OF BOGUS GARBAGE, RIGHT? WE ANSWER EVERYBODY ANYTIME.
BUT IF THAT WORD SHELL IS CAUSING A PROBLEM, JUST TURN IT INTO SHIT.
PROBLEM-SOLVE, IT'S JUST A GUIDELINE.
WE MADE THESE RULES FOR OURSELVES TWO YEARS AGO AND PEOPLE JUST IGNORED THE HECK OUT OF THEM.
SO IT'S JUST, SO YOU'D HAVE A GUIDELINE YOU LOOK AT AND GO, I'M BLOWING THIS RIGHT HERE.
SO, AND ALSO THE CLEAR IT UP TOO, LIKE THIS IS, I THINK THERE'S A, THE BITING BACK AND FORTH, UH, MS. MR. STYLES IS RIGHT.
IT WAS, IT WAS OUR ATTEMPT TO SAY, HEY, CAN WE, CAN WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET ALONG? I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST WAY.
AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE ORIGINAL TENANT.
I'M THE ONE WHO WORKED ON THIS ORIGINALLY TWO YEARS AGO WITH OUR CITY SECRETARY AND WITH OUR S AND W WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
AND IT WAS THE THREE OF US THAT CAME UP WITH SOME OF THIS STUFF WHEN THAT WAS STUFF WAS PASSED.
SO CERTAINLY A WORD SHOULD, COULD, SHOULD, WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER WORD HERE,
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UM, FOR THAT.AND IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE, LIKE THE OFFENSE WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE THE PROBLEM.
AND SO THE PROBLEM IS THE ATTITUDE, THOUGH, THE PROBLEM IS, IS, IS WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMES UP, UM, AND IT IS AN AUTOMATIC FIGHT.
THAT IS, THAT IS A HEART CHECK.
WHAT IF, IF THIS DOESN'T RESOUND WITH YOU, BUT SOME PEOPLE WILL HEAR THIS AND SOME PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND THIS.
THERE IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A DIFFERENT WAY.
NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE YOUR, NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE YOUR FREE SPEECH AWAY, NOBODY.
UM, BUT WE DO NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY THIS IS NOT.
AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THIS PERSONAL BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S FOR THEM OR THEIR BOARD AND THEIR BOARD ONLY.
THIS IS A UNIVERSAL THING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ACROSS EVERYTHING TO SAY, HEY, IF, UH, UH, I THINK IT ACTUALLY CAME TO US FROM CITY STAFF.
THE LIAISONS WERE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR A WAY TO HAVE SOMETHING BLANKET ACROSS THE WAY.
SO THIS WAS A DUMMY DOWN VERSION OF WHAT WE WORKED WITH ON CITY COUNCIL.
AND IT WAS NOT INTENDED TO TAKE ANYBODY'S FREE SPEECH AWAY AND SMIRKING AND DOING EVERYTHING ELSE AND GO HELP NOTHING HERE ON THIS ONE.
THIS IS, WE WANT, WE WANT TO DO THE BEST THING FOR THE CITY.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, LIKE, WHAT IS THIS BE DONE, FIGHT ABOUT IT.
WORD SHOULD, WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER WORD HERE IF EVERYBODY GETS OFFENDED BY IT.
WE WENT ON THIS COUNCIL HAS HAD DISPARAGING ITEMS THROWN AT THEM AND WE'RE STILL HERE.
RIGHT? SO WE'VE ALL BEEN THE TARGET.
AND WE DO ANSWER TO THE PUBLIC, LIKE SOMEONE SAID, SO LET'S JUST BE KIND, I MEAN, WE ALL WANT TO BUILD A BETTER LEANDER.
CAN WE JUST ALL BE A LITTLE MORE KIND? I DON'T KNOW.
I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING DEFENSIVE, BUT LET'S CHANGE THE WORDING.
AND MYRA, ARE WE ALLOWED TO ASK THAT TO ANYBODY? I MEAN, LIKE, EVEN LIKE YESTERDAY, ANYBODY WHO'S NOT, WHO, WHO IS IT SPEAKING AGAINST TOO? IS LIKE CHANGING THE WORD SHOULD, I MEAN, RATHER THAN SHELL, CAUSE SHALLOW SOUNDS LIKE DO THIS, RIGHT.
AND NOBODY'S TRYING TO DO THIS.
SHOULD ENCOURAGE THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT HERE.
YOU CAN'T TELL SOMEBODY, THEY CAN'T GO SAY SOMETHING.
THIS COUNTRY'S HEADING THAT WAY, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
WE CAN MAKE ALL THE RULES IN THE WORLD.
BUT THE FIRST PERSON THAT MAKES A DISPERSION MARK AND THIS COUNCIL COMES THERE AND TRIES TO GO AFTER THEM.
THEY'RE GOING TO GET EATEN ALIVE, EATEN ALIVE.
THERE'LL BE A THOUSAND PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.
SO I, I THINK, UM, PETE, TO YOUR POINT, THE INTENT IS LACKING HERE AND THE, THE KEYWORDS BEING GUIDELINES AND REALLY NOT ENFORCEABLE.
AND ANYONE THAT HAS BEEN TO A MEETING OR SERVED ON A BOARD KNOWS THAT, UH, THESE, THE GENERAL CONDUCT IS NOT BEING FOLLOWED.
THAT ONE WORD WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS CHANGE.
UM, YEAH, WE, WE SHOULD DO THAT.
UM, AND YET I W WE, I CAN'T SAY THAT, BUT WE SHOULD DO THAT.
UM, I MEAN, JUST JOKINGLY, I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY.
IF WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE THIS WE'LL, THEN LET'S JUST APPOINT PEOPLE THAT DISPARAGE US AND THEN THEY CAN'T TALK BAD ABOUT US ANYMORE.
AND WE'LL JUST HAVE A BUNCH OF BOARD MEMBERS THAT DON'T LIKE US, BUT THEY CAN'T SAY ANYTHING.
THAT IS A METHOD I HAD NOT THOUGHT OF.
YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO SILENCE, PEOPLE, PUT THEM ON A BOARD, THEY CAN'T TALK ABOUT YOU ANYMORE.
SO, BUT OF COURSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
UH, SO WITH THIS, YES, THE GUIDELINES ARE FOR ALL OF US, THEY ARE FOR ALL OF US AND THEY ARE GUIDELINES.
AND, UH, I MEAN, EVEN BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL, I'VE, I'VE READ THE SOCIAL MEDIA.
I'VE HAD THE CONVERSATIONS, I'VE LISTENED TO PEOPLE TALKING DISPARAGED, COUNCIL MEMBERS, DISPARAGE OTHER PEOPLE.
AND I, AND WHY, WHY ARE YOU SERVING IF YOU THINK EVERYTHING IS SO MESSED UP, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR SERVING BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT, BUT, BUT I, I'VE NEVER, AND I'M NOT NAMING NAMES BY ANY, BUT THEY'RE THERE, I'VE NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE DESIRE TO SERVE AND DISPARAGE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WITH THAT, I AGREE WITH THE INTENT AND THE WORDING DOES NEED TO BE CHANGED AND, AND, AND UNDERSTOOD THAT THESE ARE GUIDELINES.
AND MAYBE JUST, UH, UM, JUST TO PREFACE IN HERE THAT THESE ARE NOT ENFORCEABLE, BUT REQUESTS, REQUESTS JUST, YES.
BE KIND DON'T, DON'T BE AN IDIOT.
WE'RE NOT LIVING IN A CON TIME.
I KNOW THAT THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.
AND PETE SAID IT, HE SAID IT RIGHT WHERE CATHERINE, YOU INTERRUPT ME ALL THE TIME.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST A BASIC STANDARD.
THAT'S IT? THAT'S IT, IT IS RULE.
IT'S JUST THE BASIC STANDARD GUIDELINES.
THEY CAN BE BOUGHT IT AND BOUGHT BY IT, OR THEY DON'T HAVE TO, BUT AT LEAST I'VE GOT IT IN WRITING.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, OH YEAH.
I, IF NOBODY ELSE HAS COMMENTS, I'VE GOT A COUPLE.
UM, SO WE'LL START WITH THE EASIER ONES.
UM, THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED
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ABOUT THAT.UM, EAT TOO PERSONAL BUSINESS, PERSONAL BUSINESS, AND, OR NON-PROFIT WORK CONDUCTED BY BOARD MEMBERS MUST BE SEPARATE FROM THE CITY.
I THINK THAT, THAT IS A VERY GOOD REMINDER, BUT PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, A BROADER STATEMENT THERE ABOUT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND JUST REMINDING PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR NONPROFIT CAN BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AS CAN, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE EMPLOYMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH RECENTLY AT CAP COG.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK I TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
WE'VE INSTITUTED AN ANNUAL REVIEW OF EXACTLY THAT KIND OF THING, BECAUSE PEOPLE, PEOPLE DO GET INVOLVED IN NONPROFITS AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IN HERE, THEY GET INVOLVED IN NONPROFITS AND FORGET THAT THEY CAN'T, UM, MAKE DECISIONS THAT IMPACT THAT.
UM, AND THEN, UM, ON THE, THE PROBLEMATIC PART ON C2, UM, I WAS READY TO ASK TO HAVE PART OF IT STRICKEN.
AND Y'ALL ABOUT DONE ME WITH SHOULD.
UM, I DO THINK THAT THE PART ABOUT OUTSIDE OF BOARD MEETINGS IN SOCIAL SETTINGS ON SOCIAL MEDIA IS, UM, PROBLEMATIC AND A LITTLE OVER OVERREACHING, UM, BECAUSE YOU SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO CRITICIZE US AND FREQUENTLY THE PEOPLE THAT RUN FOR THE SEATS UP HERE ON THIS DIOCESE HAVE SERVED ON OUR COMMISSIONS.
SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY'RE RUNNING FOR A SEAT AND THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO CRITICIZE WHAT WE'RE DOING? UM, SO I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME CONFLICT THERE.
A COUPLE OF MY THOUGHTS ON THAT IS I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE REASON WHY THIS SORT OF THING CAME UP FOR ME INITIALLY, WAS THE THOUGHT OF P AND Z MEMBERS THAT COULD ADVOCATE OR LOBBY FOR, OR AGAINST ITEMS THAT HAD NOT CONCLUDED THROUGH COUNCIL.
AND I THINK THAT THERE IS A LIABILITY ISSUE THERE.
AND I, I DO THINK THAT, UM, IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA TO HAVE A RULE THAT SAYS THAT YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T GIVE AN OPINION FOR, OR AGAINST UNTIL IT'S COMPLETED.
UM, BUT THEN MY OTHER THINKING ON IT AS WELL IS I FELT LIKE THERE ARE RULES THAT ARE WRITTEN LIKE THIS, THAT WE HAVE IN OTHER POLICIES THAT I THINK ARE VERY GOOD.
UM, AND IT GOES TOWARD THAT INTENT.
SO SOCIAL MEDIA PARTICIPATION, THERE'S A DIFFERENT POLICY FOR CITY EMPLOYEES THAN THERE IS FOR ELECTRIC COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT LAWS THAT GOVERN OVER US.
UM, AND I THINK THAT COMMISSIONERS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE APPOINTED, THEY ARE A LOT MORE KIN TO, UM, TO EMPLOYEES.
THEY SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL AND THEY ARE TO ELECTEDS.
AND SO LOOKING AT THE SOCIAL MEDIA PARTICIPATION POLICY THAT, UM, MR. NEW HELPED RIGHT.
A FEW YEARS AGO, UM, THERE'S SOME FANTASTIC STUFF IN HERE THAT I THINK WOULD BE GREAT FOR OUR BOARDS.
SO GOING TO THE PART ABOUT INTENT, THERE'S A SECTION TWO D THAT TALKS ABOUT, UM, CITY STAFF.
YOU CAN POST WHAT YOU WANT ON YOUR PERSONAL, UH, PERSONAL SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT IT ASKS YOU NOT TO PUBLISH CONTENT THAT COULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN EITHER CITY OPERATIONS OR YOUR CAPACITY TO SERVE AS A CITY EMPLOYEE.
AND I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY THE INTENT BEHIND ASKING PEOPLE TO NOT DISPARAGE IN OUTSIDE SETTINGS, BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO THINK THAT EVERYTHING WE DO UP HERE IS WRONG OR CORRUPT, OR, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO SHUT PEOPLE DOWN UM, THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION THAT SAYS THE CONTENT OF PERSONAL ACCOUNTS SHOULD NOT BE PUBLISHED IN SUCH A WAY AS TO CAUSE USERS TO BELIEVE THE CONTENT IS ADMINISTERED OR ENDORSED BY THE CITY.
AND THAT CAN BE PROBLEMATIC WHEN PEOPLE ARE PROMOTING THEMSELVES ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AS I'M A REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS BOARD.
AND HERE'S MY OPINION, UM, BECAUSE IT, IT GIVES A LITTLE MORE WEIGHT TO IT.
UM, SO PERSONALLY I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO SEE THE SOCIAL MEDIA PARTICIPATION POLICY FOR CITY EMPLOYEES TWEAKED TO COVER, UM, COVER OUR COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT STUFF IN HERE THAT GOES BEYOND THE PERSONAL STUFF IS VERY, VERY SMALL.
IT GOES INTO WHEN YOU WANT TO CREATE A PAGE OR A GROUP THAT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE CITY, AND NOW WE HAVE THIS, WHEN THIS WAS CREATED, WE DIDN'T HAVE FACEBOOK GROUPS OR PAGES FOR DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS, BUT NOW WE'VE GOT THEM FOR ART.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE'RE GOING TO GET IT FOR.
AND SO THERE'S ENTIRE SECTIONS ON HERE ABOUT BEST PRACTICES AND MAKING SURE THAT, UM, THAT BEFORE YOU CREATE SOMETHING THAT HAS THE TERM LEANDER IN IT, THAT YOU'RE CHECKING WITH RPOS OFFICE AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE DO IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, HOW YOU CAN'T DELETE COMMENTS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, OPEN RECORDS RULES THAT OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE NOT ALWAYS AWARE OF.
AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT QUALITY IN HERE THAT COULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS OUR, OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, NOT JUST, UM, THEIR PERSONAL STUFF, BUT HOW THEY'RE CONDUCTING SOCIAL FOR THEIR BOARDS MIGHT USE THAT.
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VERY GOOD.DO WE HAVE THE OPTION THEN TO SEND THIS BACK FOR A REWRITE OR TO TAKE NO ACTION TONIGHT? YEAH.
WE TAKE NO ACTION TONIGHT AND DO THE REWORK AND THE REWRITE FOR NO SECOND.
DID, DID Y'ALL WANT TO COME UP WITH A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY FOR BOARDS TO DO VERY CAREFUL.
WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT VERY, VERY CAREFUL.
UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF NO ACTION AND OPPOSED PASSES SIX TO ONE.
[26. Discuss and consider action on the annual appointment of and approval of Letter Agreement with Independent Legal Counsel for the Ethics Commission.]
DISCUSS, DISCUSS, AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE ANNUAL APPOINTMENT OF THE APPROVAL OF LETTER AGREEMENT WITH INDEPENDENT LEGAL COUNSEL FOR THE ETHICS COMMISSION.SINCE YOU'RE NOT CITY ATTORNEY SIGNS, EITHER CITY ATTORNEY SIGNS WELCOME MARIN COUNCIL.
THE CITY'S CHARTER REQUIRES THAT THE CITY EMPLOY AN ETHICS COUNSEL WHO ADVISES THE ETHICS COMMISSION IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S AN ETHICS COMPLAINT THAT ARISES.
AND JUST IN GENERAL, WHEN THE ETHICS COMMISSION REVIEWS THE ETHICS ORDINANCE, THE ETHICS COUNCIL TAKES ON THAT ROLE AND ADVISES THE COMMISSION THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
THE CITY HAD PREVIOUSLY APPOINTED MONI ACRES AND HE HAS, HAS GONE INTO WHAT HE CALLS A SOFT RETIREMENT.
SO, UM, HE'S, HE'S ASKED US TO, UM, CONSIDER A REPLACEMENT FOR HIM.
THE ETHICS COUNCIL IS NOMINATED BY CITY ATTORNEY, UM, WHO WE HAVE BEFORE YOU IS PATTY ACRES.
YOU'LL NOTICE THE LAST NAME IS THE SAME.
THAT'S MR. AKERS WIFE, AND SHE'S BEEN A LONG TIME, UH, CITY ATTORNEY AS WELL, REPRESENTED MUNICIPALITIES.
AND SO, UH, SHE, UH, IN MY OPINION, IS QUALIFIED TO SERVE IN THAT ROLE.
AND I RECOMMEND YOU CONSIDER HER FOR APPOINTMENT AS ETHICS COUNSEL.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MOTION TO APPROVE THE SECOND MOTION AND SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[27. Discuss and consider action on an Ordinance amending Section 1.04.003(c) of the Code of Ordinances procedures of the board selection committee, and providing for related matters.]
27 DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1.0 4.003 C OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES PROCEDURES OF THE BOARD SELECTION COMMITTEE AND PROVIDING FOR RELATED MATTERS CITY ATTORNEY SIGNS.I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THIS ITEM HAS AROSE OUT OF THE WORKSHOP AS WELL.
UM, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CITY MOVING TOWARDS NOMINATING P AND Z MEMBERS BASED ON PLACE.
AND SO WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IS THAT EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD NOMINATE A PNC COMMISSIONER, UH, BASED ON PLACES THOSE, UM, VACANCIES ARISE.
SOME BACKGROUND ON THAT, THAT I THINK IS RELEVANT IS THAT, UM, THE CITY CHARTER SPECIFICALLY PROVIDED FOR A NOMINATION PROCESS.
IN THE PAST, THERE WAS AN ELECTION TO REMOVE THAT PROVISION.
THE CITY CHARTER PROVIDES NOW THAT THE ETHICS THAT THE COMMISSION MEMBERS PLANNING AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED BY MAJORITY VOTE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, IN THAT SAME ELECTION, THE CHARTER WAS AMENDED TO PROVIDE FOR A BOARD SELECTION COMMITTEE TO REVIEW AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ALL BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS BEFORE THE COUNCIL APPROVES THOSE, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL SERVES CURRENTLY AS THE, THE BOARD SELECTION COMMITTEE.
AND YOU GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO REVIEW THE APPLICANTS FOR VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, WHICH THEN COME TO COUNCIL FOR APPOINTMENT.
THE, YOU HAVE A REMNANT OF THIS, UM, NOMINATION PROCESS FOR THE P AND Z MEMBERS.
AND THE ORDINANCE THAT REMAINED AFTER THE CHARTER WAS AMENDED.
IT IS A REMNANT THAT WAS NOT CLEANED UP.
UH, YOU HAD, AFTER THAT, UM, CHARTER AMENDMENT WAS ENACTED THE NOMINATION PROCESS WITHIN A WAY WITH, AND COUNCIL APPOINTED BY MAJORITY VOTE THROUGH THE BOARD SELECTION COMMITTEE PROCESS.
UH, THE QUESTION OF HOW WE CAN ENACT A NOMINATION PROCESS THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARTER AND THE BOARD SELECTION COMMITTEE PROCESS.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS TO DO THAT.
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THIS, IN MY OPINION, AS A POLICY DECISION FOR THE COUNCIL, YOU CAN DECIDE TO RE-ENACT THE NOMINATION PROCESS BE AWARE OF THAT CHANGE IN THE CHARTER, UH, PROCESS TO REMOVE IT.THE NOMINATION PROCESS CAN OCCUR IN TWO WAYS.
ONE IS PRIOR TO THE BOARD SELECTION COMMITTEE, MAKING ITS RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN NOMINATE THE PNC MEMBERS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE PNC MEMBER CANDIDATES, THAT THEY WOULD LIKE THE BOARD SELECTION COMMITTEE TO INTERVIEW, AND THEN RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL COUNCIL STILL HAS TO ADAPT BY MAJORITY VOTE.
IF COUNCIL DOES NOT ADOPT BY MAJORITY VOTE, THEN THAT PERSON IS NOT SELECTED.
SO THAT'S OPTION ONE, OPTION TWO, WHICH I THINK MAY BE MORE CONSISTENT WITH HOW YOU ARE PROCESSING YOUR CURRENT INTERVIEWS.
UM, AND WHAT IS NOT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS YOU INTERVIEW A SLATE OF CANDIDATES AND THOSE SLATE OF CANDIDATES COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR A SELECTION AND A PLACEMENT ON VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
IF THE COUNCIL PREFERS TO, UM, NOMINATE FROM THOSE OF VETTED, UH, INDIVIDUALS AND CANDIDATES THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE BOARD SELECTION COMMITTEE AND NOMINATED THE COUNCIL LEVEL, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION FOR YOU.
UM, THERE'S TWO, TWO POINTS AT WHICH COUNCIL CAN NOMINATE ONE NOMINATION FOR BOARD SELECTION COMMITTEE TO THAT'S WHERE, FOR ME, THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING CONFUSED BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A BOARD SELECTION COMMITTEE IN YEARS.
IT'S JUST BEEN, WE INTERVIEW AND THEN IT'S A FREE FOR ALL.
SO WHEN YOU SAY BOARD SELECTION COMMITTEE, YOU MEAN JUST ALL OF US BECAUSE WE DID INTERVIEWS, CORRECT? BECAUSE THE COUNCIL IS SERVING AS BOARD SELECTION COMMITTEE.
SO AT WHAT POINT, OR WHAT POINT ARE YOU MAKING YOUR NOMINATION PRIOR TO INTERVIEW OR AFTER INTERVIEW FROM THE SLATE OF CANDIDATES THAT HAVE BEEN INTERVIEWED? I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE AFTER INTERVIEW.
WELL THEN, CAUSE WE DID INTERVIEWS.
IS THAT THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S DRAFTED, BUT IT CAN, IT COULD BE DRAFTED THAT WAY.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IT'S NOT DRAFTED TO WHERE WE WOULD DO.
THERE WOULD BE A SLATE BEFORE WE INTERVIEWED YOU.
I DRAFTED IN, I DRAFTED IN THE DARK BECAUSE I WAS NOT, I WAS NOT AWARE.
IT WAS NOT AWARE OF THE PROCESS YOU WERE USING, SO, OKAY.
UM, YOU CAN DIRECT FROM THE DIAS, HOW YOU WANT THIS STRUCTURED.
ASK ME A QUESTION CAUSE I LOST TRACK.
SO REMIND ME WHEN WE HAD OUR RETREAT, WE DISCUSSED AND MAYOR YOU CAN, WE, WE, WE ALL DISCUSSED THIS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE IT EASIER AND NOT SO, UM, WHERE WE COULD FIRST PERSON WHO SHOUTS OUT A NAME YES, YES.
TO, TO MAKE IT MAKE A LITTLE MORE SENSE AND FAIR TO EVERYONE.
AND UM, EASIER ON THOSE THAT ARE BEING INTERVIEWED AND APPOINTED.
UH, SO NOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE UM, SAYING A FEW THINGS THAT I, I, I DIDN'T REMEMBER.
I DON'T REMEMBER EVER, EVER HAVING THESE PROCEDURES.
SO I'M NOT SURE THAT WE ACHIEVED HERE, WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE RETREAT, BUT Y'ALL CAN REMIND ME.
WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T THERE'S THERE'S CONFLICT HERE.
THERE'S A PLANNING SECTION, TITLE, TIM AND THE CHARTER.
AND THERE'S ALSO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, RIGHT? HERE'S THE SOLUTION, BUT IT TAKES A CHARTER AMENDMENT.
THE, YOU GOTTA, YOU TAKE THE LADY COUNCIL MEMBER COMES IN, YOU REMOVE THE WORD, NOMINATE, YOU PUT A POINT EACH PERSON UP HERE, A POINT THERE MEANS YOU'RE REPRESENTING.
IF THEY MEET THE CRITERIA TO BE ON P AND G AND THERE, BUT THAT THAT'S THE SOLUTION, BUT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP DOING THIS.
AND THE, BECAUSE IT'S A MESS, THE CHARTER IS A MESS RIGHT NOW.
I, HE MAY DISAGREE WITH IT, BUT IT'S IT'S CAUSE I'VE READ, I'VE READ PROP SEVEN AND WAY PROP SEVEN READS.
I CAME INTO THE OFFICE AND IT READS IS THAT, WELL, LET ME READ IT.
YOU GOT IT UP OR I CAN ON A SECOND.
YOU'LL TALK AMONGST YOURSELF FOR A SECOND.
BE AMENDED TO DELETE THE REQUIREMENT EACH MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND NOMINATE ONE PLANNING, ONE MEMBER OF PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO IF YOU GO INTO 1 0 4 AND IT'S GOT THIS WHOLE SECTION ABOUT HOW YOU NOMINATE, RIGHT? BUT IT'S, IT'S REALLY A MOOT POINT BECAUSE NOMINATE, I CAN NOMINATE A THOUSAND PEOPLE, FOUR HANDS GOES UP.
SO TO CORRECT THAT, TO CORRECT THE CHART AND
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YOU CLEAN UP ALL OF THAT LANGUAGE AND YOU'RE GOOD THAT THE ELECTED ON THAT YEAR, THAT THEY'RE ELECTED THAT OCTOBER 1ST THAT'S SITTING COUNCIL MEMBER, A POINT P AND Z AND THIS WHOLE PROCESS GOES AWAY.Y'ALL NOW A COUNCIL CAN'T STACK THE P THAT WAY.
BUT ME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I GET TO MARINE WHO I WANT TO BRING TO PNZ.
AND IF I'M BAD IN THAT, THEN THE PUBLIC CAN JUDGE ME ON WHO I BROUGHT TO P AND Z.
BUT THAT'S THE SOLUTION UNTIL WE DO THAT, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP MESSING AROUND.
IT'S JUST GOING TO, IT'S JUST GOING TO KEEP IT FOR THIS TIME.
WE CAN'T, THIS IS A CHARTER CAN'T, UH, POINTING AND NOMINATING OR DIFFERENT THINGS.
THE INTENT OF THIS WAS JUST THAT EACH PERSON WOULD BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE TO DUKE IT OUT WITH EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE DIET TO BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR TURN TO SAY, THIS IS THE PERSON I WANT TO NOMINATE.
AND IT'S STILL GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO A VOTE OF THE COUNCIL.
UM, MS. SIGNS, READING WHAT YOU WROTE HERE.
I THINK, I THINK WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE OKAY WITH RESPECT TO PLANNING COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS.
EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL BE ENTITLED TO NOMINATE ONE APPLICANT PURSUANT TO SECTION 1.0 4.03, THREE B AND THE COMMITTEE WILL REVIEW INTERVIEW AND CONSIDER FOR RECOMMENDATION.
THE APPLICANT NOMINATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO IF THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE NOMINATING UP HERE ALREADY INTERVIEWED IT, DOESN'T SAY THAT THE INTERVIEW HAS TO COME SECOND.
IT JUST SAYS THAT IT HAS TO HAPPEN.
SO I THINK WE STILL BE CLEARED IF COUNCIL IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
BUT IF WE NOMINATED SEVEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE, WE JUST GO ROUND AND ROUND.
I KNOW IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT, BUT WE NOMINATE SEVEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
WE JUST GO ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND.
WE HAVEN'T FIXED THE PROCESS AND WE WOULD NOMINATE FOUR PEOPLE TONIGHT.
AND THEN IT WOULD BE THREE MORE NEXT YEAR WOULD BE RESETTING IT.
I DO THINK THAT THIS NEEDS A CHARTER REVISION, BUT THIS IS NOT IN CONFLICT DOING IT THIS WAY.
AND IF, BUT, BUT HERE'S THE THING WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO GO BACK AND WE'RE COMING BACK OUT AND WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON P AND Z.
AND SO BY THE TIME THE CHARTER REVISION HAS DONE, WE'LL BE THE NEXT WILL BE NEXT OCTOBER.
SO THAT WOULD BE MADE WELL, THAT'S WHEN THE ELECTION WOULD BE THAT'S WHEN THE PROMPTS WOULD GO BEFORE THE VOTERS.
AND THAT'S WHEN THE CHARTER I'M SAYING BIOCARE, BUT THAT WOULD BE, IT WOULD ALREADY BE FIXED.
SO, I MEAN, WE CAN SIT HERE AND DO THIS, BUT WE'RE REALLY JUST KIND OF WASTING EVERYBODY'S TIME, HONESTLY, SINCE WE'RE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE PLC PROCESS THIS YEAR.
SO, BUT IF YOU ADOPT THIS, THEN IT, I GUESS WOULD CLARIFY THAT ONLY CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE MAKING NOMINATIONS MOTION FOR PROOF.
I'VE I'VE I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
I BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE THE COUNCIL MEMBER IN THAT SEAT THAT GETS TO PUT THAT PERSON IN.
SO THAT'S WHY I SAY, TAKE AWAY THE WORD NOMINATE AND PUT THE WORD APPOINTED.
I BELIEVE THAT FROM DAY ONE, I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE CHARTER BEFORE PEOPLE WENT IN AND STARTED JACKING WITH IT.
SO THAT WILL BE UP FOR CHARTER REVIEW, RIGHT? FRANK STYLE'S 41 80 HIGHWAY 180 3, LEANDER, TEXAS MAYOR.
OF COURSE YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS VERY ISSUE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
I WAS ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION IN 2005.
WE SPECIFICALLY PUT BEFORE THE PEOPLE THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU WOULD NOMINATE YOUR OWN P AND Z MEMBER.
THE PROBLEM CAME THAT AFTER THEY WERE NOMINATED, THE COUNCIL COULD THE HAD TO HAVE A MAJORITY TO SAY YOUR NAME AND POLITICS WAS PLAYED.
SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE LOSING SIDE OF A MAJORITY UP HERE, THE OTHER SIDE WOULD THROW OUT THREE, FOUR OR FIVE, VERY QUALIFIED PEOPLE HAD IT STAYED THE WAY IT WAS THAT EACH ONE OF YOU GET TO A POINT, SOMEBODY, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M IN PLACE SIX.
BECKY'S A WONDERFUL PERSON, BUT I'M NOT THE COMMISSIONER.
SHE SHOULD HAVE TRUTHFULLY EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU SHOULD HAVE A COMMISSIONER THAT BASICALLY MIRRORS WHAT YOU BELIEVE, WHAT THE PEOPLE ELECTED RIGHT NOW.
I'M LOOKING AT FOUR PEOPLE THAT I DIDN'T SUPPORT, BUT YOU WERE, AND YOU SHOULD BE PUTTING PEOPLE ON THE P AND Z THAT THE PEOPLE ELECTED.
HOW IT GOT CHANGED AROUND IS A LITTLE BIT IN MAKI.
IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN IT TO ME, AMOUNT OF MAYOR, I THINK WE'D BOTH BE HAPPY.
BUT IF YOU DO THIS BY ORDINANCE, EVERY COUNCIL THAT COMES IN HERE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO TURN THIS AROUND.
Y'ALL SHOULD APPOINT P AND Z, ACCORDING TO THE CITY CHARTER AND SUBSEQUENT COUNCILS THAT WANT TO CHANGE.
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GO UP BEFORE THE PEOPLE AND CHANGE IT BY A CHARTER AMENDMENT.AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IF YOU FOUR THAT ARE NEW ELECTED HERE, APPOINT THE PEOPLE HERE.
I THINK, UM, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING IN THE NEXT THREE SEATS OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO, AND THEY SHOULDN'T PLAY THE POLITICS OF GOING WELL.
IT WAS A BITTER ELECTION AND WE'RE GOING TO VOTE YOUR REPRESENTATIVES DOWN.
I WAS ON THE CHARTER WITH CLAYTON ROSE AND CURTIS CORRELATED.
THIS WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE THE MOST PROUD OF IS THAT THE SEAT, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING THERE SHOULD APPOINT THE PNC.
EACH PLACE HERE, PLACE ONE SHOULD BE YOURS.
KATHERINE PLACE THREE SHOULD BE YOURS.
JASON MAN, MARY YOURS SHOULD BE THAT WAY.
AND THAT'S THE WAY TO SOLVE THIS.
Y'ALL HAVE GOT A PROCEDURE GO THROUGH IT, BUT MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU CHANGE THIS AS A CHARTER AMENDMENT, AND IF SOMEBODY GOES TO MUCK IT UP AGAIN, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CHARTER REVISION SYSTEM.
YOUR MOTION IS STILL ON THE FLOOR.
IS THERE A SECOND? IS IT JUST WHAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE US WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE ACCENT PROBLEM, WHATEVER.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT AS IT STANDS TONIGHT, IT DOESN'T SOLVE ANYTHING, BUT THAT'S MY MOTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[28. Convene into Executive Session pursuant to Section 551.074, Personnel, to discuss appointments to the Planning & Zoning Commission and Board of Adjustment. Reconvene into open session to take action as deemed appropriate in the City Council's discretion regarding appointments to the Planning & Zoning Commission and Board of Adjustment.]
WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 9 36 PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.07 FOR PERSONNEL TO DISCUSS APPOINTMENTS OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.WE'RE RECONVENING INTO OPEN SESSION AT 9:59 PM TO TAKE ACTION AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE IN THE CITY COUNCIL'S DISCRETION REGARDING APPOINTMENTS TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO ACTION.
[29. Discuss and consider action on appointments to the following boards, commissions and committees: Active Adult Advisory Committee, Board of Adjustment, Historical Preservation Commission, Library Foundation Board, Planning & Zoning Commission, Public Art Commission, Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone No.1 (TIRZ), Development Authority, Ethics Commission, Economic Development Committee, and the Charter Review Commission.]
29.DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ON APPOINTMENTS TO THE FOLLOWING BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES ACTIVE ADULT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMISSION, LIBRARY, FOUNDATION, BOARD PLANNING, AND ZONING COMMISSION, PUBLIC ART COMMISSION, TAX INCREMENT, REINVESTMENT ZONE, NUMBER ONE, UH, DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, ETHICS COMMISSION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, AND THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION CITY, SECRETARY CRABTREE.
AND WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER SIGNED UP.
WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER SIGNED UP, SO WHEREVER WE NEED TO DO THAT, DO YOU WANT THAT FIRST BEFORE? OKAY.
WE HAVE CRYSTAL CLOUD EVENING.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T EXPECT ANYBODY TO SPEAK.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO READ TO YOU THE DEFINITION OF A BULLY.
YOU AS A NOUN, A PERSON WHO HABITUALLY SEEKS TO HARM OR IN I'LL HAVE MY GLASSES ON INTIMIDATE.
THOSE WHOM THEY PERCEIVE ARE VULNERABLE AS A VERB, SEEK TO HARM INTIMIDATE, OR COHORT'S SOMEONE PERCEIVED AS VULNERABLE.
SO WHY DOES THE DEFINITION OF A BULLY? WHY AM I SPEAKING TO YOU ABOUT THAT TODAY? WHY I'M HERE TO ASK YOU NOT TO APPOINT CARL NORMAN TO THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION OR ANY OTHER COMMISSION OR BOARD BY DEFINITION.
CARL MORMON IS A BULLY AND IS NOT THE TYPE OF CHARACTER THAT SHE'D BE REPRESENTING OUR CITY.
I KNOW THIS SOUNDS VINDICTIVE, BUT IT IS THE TRUTH.
I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN BULLIED BY HIM ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
I'M FULLY UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA.
I GET THAT, BUT YOU DO HAVE CONTROL OVER WHO SERVES ON OUR COMMITTEES AND BOARDS THAT REPRESENT OUR CITY.
I'M SURE HE WILL BULLY ME ONLINE TONIGHT WHEN HE GETS HOME.
IF HE HAS NOT ALREADY STARTED THE PROCESS, I AM NOT THE ONLY PERSON HE HAS BULLIED ONLINE.
I'M JUST THE ONE SPEAKING OUT TO YOU THIS EVENING.
IF BULLIES PEOPLE ONLINE, UM, HE DISAGREES WITH YOU.
CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT HE WILL DO IN A MEETING? AND YOU WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT CONDUCT IN A MEETING.
MAYOR SAID REQUEST YOU TO PERSONALLY KNOW THAT CARL NORMAN IS A BULLY.
AND YOU WENT SO FAR AS TO FILE A POLICE REPORT.
HE IS NOT A PERSON OF GREAT CHARACTER.
I'M ASKING YOU AGAIN, DO NOT APPOINT CARL NORMAN TO ANY COMMITTEE WITHIN THE CITY.
IF YOU VOTE FOR HIM ON A COMMITTEE OR A BOARD, YOU ARE ENDORSING HIS BEHAVIOR AS A BULLY.
WELL, WE CAN NOT HAVE BACK AND FORTH ON, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
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FACT.AND SO ON THE RECORD, I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE NEVER, ONCE IN MY LIFE FILED A POLICE REPORT ON CARL NORMAN, NOT ONCE.
I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? OKAY, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
WE WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD WHEN YOU'RE DONE CARL NORMAN, 1821, CROSSROAD, THE INNER TEXAS.
I'M A BULLY BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
I'M A BULLY BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
I'M A BULLY BECAUSE I HAVE DIFFERENT POLITICAL VIEWS AND OTHERS.
WHATEVER MS. CLOUD IS FEELING AS IF SHE CONSIDERS BULLYING BY ME ON, ON SOCIAL MEDIA IS RIDICULOUS.
SHE CAME ON TO SOCIAL MEDIA, REPRESENTING HER CANDIDATE.
I HOLD HER ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE THINGS SHE WAS SAYING, REPRESENTING THAT CANDIDATE.
SHE WAS, SHE WAS CALLED OUT MULTIPLE TIMES BY MANY PEOPLE THAT WHAT SHE WAS REPRESENTING WERE UNTRUTHS.
AND I POINTED THAT OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
MY RECORD ON FACEBOOK, IT'S THERE RIGHT NOW.
EVERYTHING I'VE SAID IS THERE.
IF PEOPLE CAN HANDLE THE TUMULTUOUSNESS OF POLITICS, YOU SHOULDN'T BE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND THIS IS THE MAYOR HAS GONE ON RECORD.
SHE NEVER FILED A POLICE REPORT AGAINST ME.
THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS AUDIENCE WHO HAVE ACCUSED ME OF DOING PHYSICAL ASSAULT ON THE MAYOR.
IT NEVER HAPPENED FOR THE RECORD.
QUIST IS ONE OF THE CLOSEST FRIENDS I HAVE.
SO IF I WAS GOING TO PHYSICALLY ASSAULT HER, WHY ARE WE GOOD FRIENDS? IT'S RIDICULOUS.
I'M TIRED OF HAVING MY CHARACTER ASSASSINATED.
THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE DOING IT, I GIVE YOU FAIR WARNING.
I WILL CONSULT LEGAL CAUSE I WILL CONSULT A LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE AND I WILL TAKE ACTION FOR DEFAMATION.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT SAY THINGS LIKE I COMMITTED PHYSICAL ASSAULT AGAINST SOMEONE WHO COMMITTED A CRIME, I'VE COMMITTED, NO CRIME.
I HAVE A CLEAN RECORD, DO A BACKGROUND.
I HOLD A TOP SECRET CLEARANCE.
I WOULD NOT HAVE THAT TOP SECRET CLEARANCE.
IF I WAS PHYSICALLY ASSAULTING PEOPLE, THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
THIS IS CHARACTER ASSASSINATION.
AND IT'S IT'S PAYBACK BECAUSE I HAPPEN TO CONFRONT YOU ONLINE.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN DON'T BE ONLINE.
I VOLUNTEERED TO REPRESENT THE CITY ON THE CHARTER COMMISSION TO WORK FOR THE CITIES FOR THE BEST GOOD OF THE PUBLIC.
AND THIS IS THE WAY I'M TREATED.
YOU'LL ALL HAVE A VOTE ON WHETHER I CAN BE ON THE COMMISSION OR NOT.
I'M NOT GOING TO LOSE ANY SLEEP IF I DON'T GET ON, BUT I VOLUNTEERED WITH GOOD INTENT AND GOOD FAITH AND FAB, MY CHARACTER ASSASSINATED LIKE THIS IS OUT RAGES.
THANK YOU, MR. NORMAN, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER'S CARD.
ONCE AGAIN, AS A STATEMENT OF FACT, MR. NORMAN HAS NEVER ONCE PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED ME AND I CAN'T BELIEVE WE HAVE TO SAY THIS.
I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? EXCELLENT CITY SECRETARY.
STYLES, RIGHT? STYLE'S 41 80 HIGHWAY 180 3, LEANDER, TEXAS.
I TAKE YOU AT YOUR WORD FOR WHAT YOU'VE SAID, BUT I DO RECALL A TIME WHEN YOU WERE RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL, WHEN YOU WERE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT MR. NORMAN'S BEHAVIOR AND ASKED TO BE ESCORTED OUT TO YOUR CAR, IS THAT A MISREPRESENTS? SHOULDN'T KNOW THE FACTS NOT HAVE BACK AND FORTH.
CONTINUE YOUR COMMENTS PLEASE.
THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS I DO RECALL A TIME WHEN YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT HIM AND YOU DID ASK TO BE ESCORTED OUT TO YOUR, YOUR CAR.
AS A STATEMENT OF FACT, I HAVE ASKED TO BE ESCORTED OUT TO MY CAR SEVERAL TIMES ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT OCCASIONS, AROUND SEVERAL DIFFERENT SITUATIONS WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? EXCELLENT.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY A NEW PROCESS.
WE ARE, UM, I'VE SPOKEN TO ALL OF YOU.
WE HAVE BALLOTS AND EVERYBODY'S KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS.
WE HAVE ALL THE SLATE OF CANDIDATES UP.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE SHOWN UP HERE.
THE, THE VOTES AND WHOEVER HAS THE MOST MAJORITY HAS THE MAJORITY VOTES FOR THE POSITIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
I WILL READ THEM INTO THE RECORD.
ONCE ALL VOTING IS DONE AND THERE WILL BE TAKEN IN ONE MOTION.
AND MS.
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HAS YOUR NAME ON IT.AND WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP WITH THIS NEW PROCESS, THE ACTIVE ADULT ADVISORY COMMITTEE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE COMMISSION.
IT'S MOTIVATION TO FILL THESE OUT FAST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.
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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.THIS IS FOR, AND THE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
IT'S THE RUNOFF WHERE THE CHARTER REVIEW.
HOWEVER, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME DISCUSSION BEFORE Y'ALL DO AGAIN.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU SAID Y'ALL WANTED TO DISCUSS SOMETHING THAT I MISUNDERSTOOD.
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ON THE ETHICS.RUN-OFF CIRCLE THREE CIRCLE THREE FOR THE WRITE-OFF
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WE WILL REPORTING AT POINTING KIRSTEN LYNCH AND NANCY'S SCHNEIDER PORT OF ADJUSTMENT WILL BE KATE WARRICK, MONICA RESELL MATHENIA MELISSA BRADFORD, RAUL CAMACHO AND SCOTT
AND THAT SPAWN SELLER CALL CARLOS ST.
JAMES JOHN CROSS COST GROWTH, KIRSTEN LYNCH, LORE LANTRIP AND MONICA ROUSSEL MATHENIA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
JENNIFER WALSH, ANDREW NODDEN.
ROBERT SHAVER, GILBERT RODRIGUEZ.
ETHICS WILL BE MELISSA BRADFORD, SAM SERGEANT SARAH THOMPSON, STATE CO-ED SKI HISTORICAL PRESERVATION, CHRISTINA TWING, JENNY KIRSHA, BELL GILBERT RODRIGUEZ, CATHERINE CONRAD, PRISCILLA SAM'S PUBLIC ARTS, GEORGE QUIST, JESSICA ALONSO, MARK JENSEN LIBRARY, GARY ANDERSON, GALEN EDWARDS, GILBERT RODRIGUEZ, JASON DYKES PLANNING AND ZONING WILL BE DEIDRE MOSH.
JOHN COSGROVE, LAURA LANTRIP MARSHALL HEINZ AND TARS WILL BE ANDREW NOTTEN MOTION.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OPPOSED.
UH, TO BOTH OUR CITY SECRETARIES.
[30. Convene into Executive Session pursuant to Section 551.071, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05, Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding personnel matters. Reconvene into open session to take action as deemed appropriate in the City Council's discretion regarding personnel matters.]
CONVENIENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5, 5, 1 0.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND SECTION 1.05, TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL L MATTERS.WE ARE RECONVENING IN THE OPEN SESSION AT 12:05 AM TO TAKE ACTION AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE AND THE CITY COUNCIL'S DISCRETION REGARDING PERSONNEL MATTERS.
COUNCILMEMBER CERNER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO ACTION.
[31. Council Member Closing Statements.]
WE WILL WRAP UP WITH CLOSING COMMENTS.I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT ANYBODY'S WATCHING, BUT IF YOU ARE, WE HAVE, UH, IS IT SPOOKTACULAR? THE SPOOKTACULAR, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IS THAT WHAT IT'S CALLED ON OCTOBER 30TH? UH, CON GO LOOK AT THE WEBSITE, GO LOOK AT THE FACEBOOK PAGE AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE OR GOOD MORNING.
SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THERE'S A PUMPKIN PATCH.
I WAS IN LEANDER, SO I WAS ABLE TO TAKE MY KIDS.
SO JUST WANT TO SAY HAPPY HALLOWEEN TO ALL THE KIDS OUT THERE.
SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT VOLUNTEER WITH THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND EXCITED FOR ALL THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SERVE.
AND I'D LIKE TO SAY GOODNIGHT ALSO, AND ALSO A THANK YOU TO BELLA, SARAH FOR SERVING DINNER TONIGHT, TONIGHT, Y'ALL.