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[1. Open Meeting.]
TODAY IS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 18TH, 2021.AND THIS IS THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL.
A QUORUM IS PRESENT OF COUNCIL.
[2. Roll Call.]
WOULD YOU PLEASE OPEN YOUR PNC WORKSHOP AND CONFIRM A QUORUM IS PRESENT.THIS IS THE LEANDER CITY OF LEANDER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.
IT'S CALLED THE ORDER AND THE TIME IS 5 31.
AND THE RECORD COUNCIL MEMBER SHOT IS ABSENT.
YOU WANT TO KNOW ANYBODY ABSENT ON YOURS? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON IS ABSOLUTELY.
[3. Conduct a joint workshop with the Planning and Zoning Commission.]
HAVE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, GRIFFIN.UM, SO THIS IS A MEETING WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TACK TWICE A YEAR FOR THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL TO, UM, TALK ABOUT BUSINESS, TO TALK ABOUT THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN GOALS FOR THE CITY GOING FORWARD.
SO THE FUN TIME, USUALLY YOU DON'T GET A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO EACH OTHER AS A GROUP.
SO IT'S A CHANCE FOR YOU TO COMMUNICATE ANYTHING YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
UM, WELL THEN, UH, WE HEARD IN INTERVIEWS RECENTLY, UM, COMMISSIONERS SAYING THAT THEY WISH THERE WAS MORE COMMUNICATION WITH COUNCIL.
WHAT YOU WANT TO TALK TO US ABOUT.
MOST OF IT IS, UH, UM, GET GETTING THE DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH.
UH, WE WANT TO HEAR THE CRITICISM AS WELL AS THE ATTABOYS OR ATTAGIRLS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
UM, JUST SO THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
UM, AS WELL AS, UM, SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT ARE DISCUSSED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS, MAKING IT TO COUNCIL AS TO WHY WE VOTED A CERTAIN WAY.
UH, POSSIBLY SOME OF THE ISSUES I KNOW IS, UM, DONNY IS HAD A COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH THAT.
UH, NO, I MEAN, MAY IS EXACTLY RIGHT.
I THINK THAT THAT BEING ABLE TO EXPRESS HOW WE VOTED AND WHY WE VOTED, YOU KNOW, BOTH, BOTH SIDES OF IT, NOT JUST ONE SIDE, NOT JUST MY SIDE, BUT, BUT ALL THE SIDES OF IT.
UH, SO THAT YOU GUYS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN HEAR OUR REASONING BEHIND SOME THINGS.
I THINK THAT'LL BETTER HELP BACK TO WHAT HE WAS SAYING EARLIER, AS WELL AS BEING ABLE TO GIVE US MORE FEEDBACK, BECAUSE IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THINGS THE WRONG WAY, WHICH IS POSSIBLE, RIGHT, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL HUMAN AND WE HAVE A CERTAIN WAY.
WE'RE THINKING, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION TO, TO THINK ABOUT THINGS IN A PARTICULAR WAY, THAT'S GOING TO BE HELPFUL AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW HOW WE'RE THINKING OR WHY WE'RE THINKING.
UM, IF YOU DON'T REALLY GET ALL OF THAT FEEDBACK ON, ON OUR REASONING BEHIND WHY WE VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
NOW SOME THINGS ARE PRETTY UP AND DOWN.
YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS ARE FAIRLY SIMPLE, BUT ON SOME MORE COMPLEX THINGS WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO HEAR, UM, BOTH SIDES OF, OF WHERE WE WERE AT ON THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL, NOT JUST FOR YOU, BUT ALSO FOR FEEDBACK FOR US.
I THINK FOR ME, THE ISSUE IS SPEAKING TO UNDERSTANDING WHY A VOTE GOES A CERTAIN WAY IS THAT YOU DON'T GET THAT FROM THE MINUTES OF THE PMC AND FOR COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE TO COMB THROUGH IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING.
SO I, I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A WAY WE CAN STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS.
SO, UM, WHEN A CASE COMES BEFORE COUNCIL, YOU'RE NOT SAYING I HAVE NO IDEA WHY HE'S GOT THIS PERMISSION, BECAUSE WHAT THEY DID, WHEN WAS THE SEVEN OF US SITTING UP THERE, THERE'S USUALLY A PRETTY GOOD RATIONALE FOR WHY IT HAPPENED THE WAY IT HAPPENED.
WELL, AND I HAVE SEEN THIS LAST YEAR, IT'S STARTING TO BE NOTED ON SOME OF THEM WHERE THE COMMISSIONER WITH THE DISSENTING OPINION WE'LL PUT IN Y AND I'VE APPRECIATED THAT, UM, A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT IT'S COME THROUGH, BUT I CAN SEE WHERE WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO THAT GOING THE OPPOSITE
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WAY TO NO, I JUST THINK, BUT ALSO WITH EVERYTHING BEING RECORDED NOW, IT GETS A LOT EASIER TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE STUFF SPECIFICALLY ON, UM, CERTAIN CASES.UM, SO THAT'S BEEN A HUGE HELP FOR ME IN RESEARCH IN THIS.
I THINK ALSO ONE THING THAT'S GOING TO HELP IS AS, AS WE'RE KIND OF COMING AROUND TO, UH, HOW THE APPOINTMENTS GET MADE, UM, AND EVEN HAVING, YOU KNOW, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST MAKING, IF I'M, IF I'M APPOINTING RON, BECAUSE HE'S SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO ME AND I SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH HIM TO GO TO THIS CERTAIN WAY TOO.
AND THEN I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE, UM, UM, THAT, THAT IS, THAT IS ONE WAY THAT WE SHOULD BE DIRECTLY COMMUNICATING WITH SOMEBODY FROM, UH, I THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN MORE WHEN WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN LIKE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE BETTER THIS PERSON EXACTLY.
RATHER THAN JUST GOING TO ANYBODY.
CAN YOU ALL TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT AN INCIDENT OR GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF WHEN YOU'RE REFERRING TO WHERE IF YOU COULD HAVE TALKED TO COUNSEL AND GIVEN MORE INFORMATION, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OR WHERE THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING.
I THOUGHT, I THINK MAYBE, UM, THERE WAS MAYBE SOME MISUNDERSTANDING ON THE, UH, MEMORY CARE ON, ON SAN GABRIEL ABOUT WHY WE, WHY WE APPROVED THAT DESPITE NEIGHBORS COMING FORWARD IN OPPOSITION.
AND IF YOU HAD, IF WE HAD HAD A CONVERSATION, IT MAY HAVE MADE IT A LOT EASIER FOR YOU TO, TO COME TO WHATEVER DECISION YOU CAN DO.
NOT SAYING YOU WOULD HAVE CHANGED YOUR MIND BY SAYING MORE INFORMATION IN THE TOOLBOX HAS ALWAYS BEEN DONE.
AND I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, I'VE KIND OF BEEN ON THE KICK ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, AND ALSO THE IMPACT OF ALLOWING A ZONING IN ONE INSTANCE IMPACTS FUTURE ZONINGS IN THE OTHER, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ESPECIALLY IN THE PERCENTAGES THAT WE HAVE, UH, IN OUR, IN OUR CATEGORIES.
SO IF, IF WE ALLOW SOMETHING HERE, WE BASICALLY FORCE EVERYBODY ELSE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT THAT, UM, AS WELL AS I THINK ON, UM, THE, I FORGET THE NAME OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE ONE UP THERE ON 29 AND REAGAN, YOU WERE SAYING THE GATEWAY.
SO, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP DURING THE DISCUSSION THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN CITY COUNCIL AND WASN'T BROUGHT UP, WAS IT CALLED FROM THE LOOP? AND, UM, THE, THE MAYOR, UH, YOU BROUGHT THIS UP LAST TIME WE CALLED IT, THE LOOP IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.
YOU BROUGHT THIS UP LAST, LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, BUT I BROUGHT IT UP FOR THAT BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER SAYS, OH, WE CAN'T PUT, UM, VERTICAL MIXED USE ON THERE BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S NO NEED TO HAVE COMMERCIAL AT THE BACK END OF THE PROPERTY.
AND I'M LIKE, WELL, THAT INVALIDATES THAT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S THE WRONG, UH, TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT, BUT YOU CAN'T USE THAT AS AN EXCUSE BECAUSE COMPLIMENT LOOP WILL BE DEVELOPED AND WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, A THOROUGHFARE THERE AND THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE COMMERCIAL.
AND SO LITTLE, LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT SOMETIMES CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
YOUR POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE PERCENTAGES IN THAT AREA, TURNING THAT ONE INTO RESIDENTIAL FORCES, THAT ONE THAT'S UNDEVELOPED TO THE WEST OF IT THROWS OFF THE, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I HAD SAID DURING THE MEETING.
I SAID, IF WE ALLOW RESIDENTIAL HERE, THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN PUT COMMERCIAL TO THE WEST OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S ON NOT, NOT ON A PRIMARY ROAD, THERE'S A SECONDARY ROAD.
NO, ONE'S GOING TO PUT COMMERCIAL THERE.
SO WE FORCED THEM INTO RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS MAYBE WHAT THEY WANT, BUT WE'VE DICTATED TO THEM THAT THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE THERE WITH THAT, THAT ACTIVITY CENTER, WE SAY, WE ONLY WANT 30%.
AND SO THOSE TYPES OF DISCUSSIONS ARE GOOD AND WE HAVE THOSE ALL THE TIME.
UM, WE HAVE GOOD BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSIONS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'D SHARED WITH ROBIN PROBABLY ABOUT ABOUT A YEAR AGO NOW, UM, IT'S KIND OF IN A VACUUM.
ONE OF MY IDEAS WAS THAT ONE COMMISSIONER KIND OF GIVE A COMMISSIONER'S BRIEF, UM, WITH, YOU KNOW, WHEN ROBIN DOES HER BRIEF, AND THEN THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE SAID, BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT.
SO NOW IF, AND ONCE EVERY SEVEN MONTHS I CAN, YOU KNOW, THAT MONTH, SO THOSE TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS I WOULD GO TO AND I WOULD SHOW BOTH SIDES OF, OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT SO THAT YOU WOULD GET IT AND WOULDN'T HAVE TO LISTEN THROUGH ANOTHER TWO TO THREE HOURS ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU HAVE TO DO WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR WORK.
AND YOU WOULD SEE KIND OF THE COMMISSIONER'S PERSPECTIVE.
AND LIKE I SAID, THEN IT WOULD BE THE, UH, AND COMING UPON ME DURING MY MONTH TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES, NOT JUST MY HOME, SO THAT I'M PRESENTING, UH, GIVING YOU GOOD DATA AND LETTING, LETTING ALL OF YOU TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS.
LIKE ONCE PERSON, LIKE I SAID, IT'D BE ONCE PER SEVEN MONTHS, IT WOULD JUST ROTATE.
AND I HAVE NOT FLOATED THAT BY ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER.
CAUSE, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE IT'S ADDING MORE FOR US.
BUT I THINK THAT THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WOULD BE VALUABLE.
HOW WOULD THAT BE DIFFERENT FROM ROBIN GIVES US, WELL, RIGHT NOW SHE'S SAYING THAT, OH, HONESTLY, RIGHT NOW, ROBIN, ROBIN WILL TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED AND THEN YOU'D HAVE THE MINUTES.
BUT AS WE SAID EARLIER, THE MINUTES, DOESN'T ALWAYS CAPTURE THE DISCUSSION, INCLUDING,
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UM, THE DISCUSSION WHEN WRONG CALLS ON HOW TO SAY SOMETHING.AND IF YOU DON'T SAY SOMETHING, WE DON'T WRITE IT, BUT WE'VE BEEN INCLUDING THAT IN THE ANALYSIS.
AND THEN I'VE BEEN WRITING WHAT Y'ALL TALK ABOUT.
THEY SAID THAT THAT WAS OUR ACTION IS WE STARTED DOING THE COMMENTARY AND THEN I STARTED TAKING NOTES DURING THE MEETING AND ACTUALLY BRING IT UP AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION LIKE THIS SOMEWHAT ON COUNCIL'S COUNSELOR'S RESPONSIBILITY TO GO BACK AND WATCH THAT VIDEO AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNEW AND THAT'S WHATEVER ON FRIDAYS, I'M DAY OFF, I GO BACK AND IT'S NICE CAUSE I WATCH IT ON TIME AND A HALF, BUT I CAN GET, BUT I CAN GET THE DIGEST AND UNDERSTAND AND I CAN REWIND AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF.
BUT I FEEL LIKE, UM, THAT'S MY DUTY THAT I, AND I LOVE THE ADDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.
AND IF, AND IF THE COMMISSION ENDS UP TAKING ON YOUR IDEA, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S, AGAIN, INFORMATION IS ALWAYS GOOD, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO, IT'S, DOESN'T HAVE TO ALL BE A PUSH.
WE NEED TO HAVE, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PULLING THAT INFORMATION ALSO.
AND, AND, AND HONESTLY, IT'D BE FAIR TO ROBIN.
I ALWAYS SAID, HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO SO THAT WE TAKE A LITTLE BIT OFF OF YOUR PLATE.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT SHE HAS TAKEN UPON HERSELF TO KIND OF ADD MORE INFORMATION, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE HEADING MORE WORK FOR HER TO DO TO
IT JUST BE GOOD TO HAVE IT SPOKEN.
I ACTUALLY ASKED THAT QUESTION TO ROB THEM UP WHEN WE'RE ON OUR BRIEFING CALL.
HEY, WHY, WHAT WAS THE CONTEXT OF WHY DIDN'T THIS PERSON LIKE, I THINK I MIGHT KNOW, BUT TELL ME, AM I WRONG IN ASSUMING THIS BECAUSE SHE WAS THERE AND PARTICIPATED IN IT AND I WASN'T USED TO ACTUALLY GOING BACK AND WATCHING THE RECORDINGS CAUSE I DIDN'T USE THAT.
THEY USED TO HAVE TO ASK FOR THE AUDIO.
AND YOU CAN JUMP TO THINGS, THE NOTES THAT YOU INCLUDE HELPED ME KNOW, OH, I NEED TO GO BACK AND WATCH THAT.
OR, OR NOT BECAUSE IT COULD BE YOUR PERSPECTIVE, BUT YOU YOU'RE VERY GOOD AT JUST GIVING THE FACT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT EMOTION, IT'S NOT.
I'VE APPRECIATED YOUR FOCUS ON THE COMP PLAN.
UM, AS A COUNCIL, WE'VE DECIDED THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY STRICT ON THAT WHEN REASONINGS COME.
SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL ARE ON THE BOARD WITH AS WELL.
UM, BUT I'VE NOTICED THAT DISCUSSION.
Y'ALL DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE LIKE THAT WE SH THAT, THAT THERE SHOULD BE AN EXPECTATION THAT THERE ARE NOT GOING TO BE AMENDMENTS TO THE COMP PLAN, GENERALLY SPEAKING, GOING FOR, I THINK THERE WILL BE AMENDMENTS, BUT ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL, I THINK THERE'S A MUCH HIGHER BURDEN.
TELL ME IF I'M TALKING OUT OF TURN AND I THINK LIKE GENERALLY HERE.
I THINK GENERALLY IT'S THE ANSWER.
WE DON'T WANT TO SAY NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT COMES LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT WITH IT AS FAR AS EVEN WHERE A ROAD BINDS UP.
SO, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY THAT, AND THERE WAS THAT ONE, UM, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO THAT WAS OVER OFF OF REAGAN.
THEY HAD THE AQUIFER AND YES, AND IT WAS TOO AWKWARD OF A PLACEMENT FOR THE ACTIVITY CENTER.
UM, BUT LIKE THE ONES WE HAD LAST WEEK WITH, UM, THE ONE WITH CRYSTAL FALLS, LIKE I THINK I HAD THE FEELING GOING IN THAT WE WERE ALL GOING TO SAY NO ON REZONING COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL AND CRYSTAL BALLS.
AND I APPRECIATE WHAT, WHAT, UH, REGARDING THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH HER AND, UH, WHAT, UM, WHAT USED TO SCHOOL IN THAT AREA? I FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS HAD, YOU GUYS HELD YOUR GROUND AS A, AS P AND Z.
AND IF I DON'T, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, IT WAS, HEY, YOU GUYS WANT TO CONSIDER THIS AND CHANGE THE DAMN COMP PLAN, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THAT AREA THAT'S OTHERWISE IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK HERE.
SO, UM, IN THE LAST MEETING IS ON THE FIRST TIME THAT I THINK WE CAME TOGETHER AS A COUNCIL ALSO SAID, COLUMBINE'S COMP PLAN.
THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO PROTECT THE CITY.
LET'S TRY TO KEEP TO THIS THING.
AND SO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SYNERGY THERE RIGHT NOW.
I THINK GENERALLY THE THRUST OF THIS DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION REGARDING COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS HAVE BEEN TO STRAY AWAY FROM THE SORT OF ONE-OFF INDIVIDUAL, UM, CASE BY CASE KIND OF ADJUSTMENTS AND TO SUGGEST HOLISTIC ONES THAT BECOME OBVIOUSLY NECESSARY BECAUSE OF COURSE THE COMPLIMENT PROCESS IS BIG AND BROAD AND COVERS THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF LAND.
AND THERE ARE BOUND TO BE, YOU KNOW, SMALL ROUNDING ERRORS, IF YOU WILL, THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.
SO AT LEAST THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE HAD HAS CENTERED AROUND IF THIS IS REALLY WRONG, IF WE'RE GETTING A REQUEST AND IT REALLY MAKES SENSE TO MAKE THIS CHANGE, SHOULDN'T THIS CHANGE BEING PART OF A BROADER, MORE THOUGHTFUL INTENTION CHANGE.
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I REMEMBER THAT DISCUSSION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.HAS THAT COME UP AGAIN RECENTLY? LIKE SINCE THE NEW COMP PLAN, HAVE YOU NOTICED ANYTHING BUT HOLISTICALLY? WELL, I THINK THAT THAT ACTIVITY CENTER IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE EXAMPLE.
IT'S A COMPLICATED ONE BY NATURE.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN IT, IN THAT IT'S NOT THE CONFLUENCE OF TWO, UM, ARTERIAL ROADS.
IT'S MORE LIKE TWO AND A HALF OR THREE.
AND OF COURSE WE HAD THE, THE AQUIFER SYSTEM, THE, THE RECHARGE ZONE THAT WAS THERE AS WELL.
UM, BUT I WAS REALLY JUST WANTING TO ECHO WHAT YOU GUYS WERE SAYING, WHICH IS THAT I THINK THAT THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO ALWAYS HANDLE THESE THINGS IS TO DO IT IN A BROAD SENSE.
YOU KNOW, ONE WHERE YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACTORS OUTSIDE OF THIS ONE LITTLE SPACE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO THAT HAS BEEN OUR PUSH GENERALLY SPEAKING.
SO IF YOU GET, WE HAVE ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS SUGGESTED, I MEAN, I REALLY THINK THAT THAT, THAT WAS SORT OF SUGGESTED BY US, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE MORE BROAD SENSE FOR THE ACTIVITY CENTER, BECAUSE WHAT CAME TO US WAS AN APPLICANT LOOKING FOR A CHANGE INSIDE THE ACTIVITY CENTER AND WANTING A LITTLE CUTOUT MADE TO THE ACTIVITY CENTER, YOU KNOW, SOME ADJUSTMENT THERE OFF, AND WE SAID, YEAH, THAT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE.
SO I WOULD PROBABLY SAY EVERYBODY AGREES.
IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT OPTION TO SUGGEST A LARGER, MORE, UM, OH, WELL, AND WE HAD IT ON THAT FIRST ONE THAT, UM, THAT MORRIS WAS TALKING ABOUT.
WE HAD ANOTHER APP OF FUTURE APPLICANTS THAT SPOKE AND TALKED THAT NIGHT SAYS, YES, I'M COMING BACK WITH ONE AS WELL.
AND THAT GOT US THINKING ABOUT, OKAY, HOW CAN WE FIX IT FOR NOT JUST FOR THE GUY HERE, BUT FOR THE FUTURE APPLICANTS THAT ARE COMING BACK AS WELL, THAT ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING INTO THE SAME THING.
DOMINO'S UM, I, I, I HAVE A QUESTION AND I WOULD LOVE YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT.
AND WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS AS WELL ON THE COMMISSION ABOUT IT, UM, IN THE AGGREGATE.
BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LET'S JUST SAY, IT'S THE ACTIVITY CENTER WHERE IT'S 70%, NON-RESIDENTIAL 30% RESIDENTIAL.
ARE WE TO APPLY THAT STANDARD TO EVERY INDIVIDUAL APPLICANT? OR ARE WE LOOKING AT IT IN THE AGGREGATE ACROSS THE ROOM BECAUSE THERE'S PLUSES AND MINUSES TO DOING IT BOTH WAYS.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING IN THE COMP PLAN? IT SAYS, IT'S THE WHOLE CENTER FOR THAT.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, RIGHT? THAT'S CLEAR IN THERE, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CHANGE, IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE GOING? NO, NO, NO.
AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE, AND THE FOLKS WHO CAME ON, UM, ON CRYSTAL FALLS AND WANTED TO, TO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ONLY HAD 14 ACRES, RIGHT.
IF, IF, IF WE APPLY THAT TO THEM, THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW? YEAH, YEAH.
IF YOU HAVE, WELL, LET'S JUST SAY IT WAS ALL IN THE ACTIVITY CENTER.
IF THEY ONLY HAD 14 ACRES AND WE APPLY THAT 70, 30 TO THEM, THAT'S GONNA TOTALLY BLOW THINGS UP.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT MY THINKING IS RIGHT, THAT IT'S NOT, WE'RE APPLYING IT TO EVERY APPLICANT THAT IT'S THE AGGREGATE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE AGGREGATE ON A CENTER, BUT IN THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR, THE WAY IT READS IT'S BY PROJECT.
AND THE POINT IS TO NOT HAVE A PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.
SO YOU WANT TO HAVE COMMERCIAL COMING IN FIRST AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL IS AN ACCESSORY.
SO MAYBE A GOOD ONE TO THINK ABOUT IS THE ONE THAT WAS ON REAGAN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, THAT WAS ALL TOWNHOMES.
AND THEY WANTED TO GET RID OF THE COMMERCIAL ON THE FRONT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN ACTIVITY CENTER WAY DOWN THERE, BUT WE STILL HELP TO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF COMMERCIAL, EVEN THE ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON CRYSTAL FALLS, IF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FRONTAGE ON BEING A COMMERCIAL IN THE BACK AND BEING A SMALLER, A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION, EVEN TO A WINDOW OF RESIDENTIAL ONTO THE ROAD.
AND YEAH, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY WERE PLANNING SINCE DAY ONE, BUT IT'S STILL, SO BESIDES STICKING TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT'S BEEN COUNCIL'S GUIDANCE.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE DOING ANYTHING BESIDES THAT WATER RESTRICTIONS.
I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN SCALING BACK ON OUR GOOGLE.
SO HOW DOES THAT PLAY INTO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE APPROVING? ARE YOU KEEPING THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND? WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE DOCUMENT.
I MEAN, THE PROBLEM WITH THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT WE DON'T, IT'S NOT A PART OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BASE OUR DECISION-MAKING ON.
I THINK ALL OF US BELIEVE THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED AND THOUGHT ABOUT ON EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPMENT OR ZONE IN CASE THAT COMES THROUGH.
UM, BUT I MEAN, THIS IS A, I THINK A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING WHERE YOU SAY IT DIDN'T REALLY COME UP DURING THE PROCESS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS DESIGNED TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT THAT ADAPTS TO THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
AND SO AN ADDENDUM TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT INCLUDES, UH, UM, DIRECTION SORT OF STRATEGIC DIRECTION IS THE SORT OF THING THAT WE COULD INCORPORATE INTO OUR RATE OR INTO THE CA THE COMMISSION'S REASONING, UH, WHEN IT, UH, WHEN, WHEN CASES COME BEFORE THEM.
AND I THINK IN THE MEANTIME THAT TO ANSWER THAT LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE ONE IS OUR BASELINE.
IT IS OUR BASELINE TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS RESPONSIBLY AND NOT GETTING OUTSIDE OF OUR, GET ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF WHACK.
AND THEN DID, IS, ARE, IF SOMETHING COMES ACROSS, IT IS OUR ONE WAY TO RESPECTFULLY RICHARD INTROSPECTIVELY AND LEGALLY JUST SAY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE.
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THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IF WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT.AND I THINK LIKE ON THE PUTTS, BECAUSE IT'S VERY CONTRACTUAL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO AT OUR END TO SAY LIKE, WELL, WILL YOU WANT THIS WAIVER? CAN YOU ZERO SCAPE? AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THIS WAIVER.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WILL BE HARDER, RIGHT? AND I THINK THAT WILL BE HARDER AT THE PNC LEVEL BECAUSE IT'S VERY RIGID.
WHAT Y'ALL ARE SUPPOSED TO STICK TO TELL ME, YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE OR NARROW YOUR SCOPE.
SO FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, THOUGH, IT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL.
IF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS MODIFIED TO KNOW THAT WE NEED TO MAKE DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS REGARDING WATER.
I MEAN, WHEN, WHEN ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION VOTES, THEY SHOULD BE VOTING BASED ON THE PRINCIPLES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE INSIDE THE VARIOUS CODES OF ORDINANCES THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING HAS PURVIEW OVER.
SO PLANNING AND SUBDIVISION AND SIGN ORDINANCE, ET CETERA.
AND IF THERE, IF THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A SERIES OF BIG, BROAD STATEMENTS THAT WE'RE KIND OF THRUSTING TOWARD.
AND IF THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE A PART OF THE DISCUSSION FROM THE BEGINNING, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE INTO OUR DISCUSSION AS WELL, BUT WE GENERALLY KIND OF AVOID IT BECAUSE IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR WHEELHOUSE BASED ON THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE.
SO, YES, I MEAN, MY POSITION IS, I MEAN, I'M SPEAKING PERSONALLY HERE, BUT MY POSITION IS IF IT IS THE COMMUNITY'S GOAL, TO BE MORE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE WAY THAT WE CONSERVE AND USE WATER, EVEN SEPARATE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT SHOULD BE INSIDE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE THAT IS THE DOCUMENT THAT LEADS STAFF AND THAT, THAT HELPS THEM WITH DECISION MAKING ON, ON OTHER THINGS.
SO CERTAINLY I WOULD SUGGEST IT SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING ADDED TO THE COMPETENT EQUALLY.
WE HAVE TO GO ON WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LIKE, LIKE A STATEMENT IN THE INCUMBENTS, A PLAN, WOULD THAT BE ENOUGH TO AT LEAST PUT IT ON THE FOREFRONT OF EVERYBODY'S MIND? WE PROBABLY, BECAUSE THERE'S A SERIES OF GOALS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT AS WE GO THROUGH A SERIES OF AMENDMENTS TO THE ORDINANCE, THOSE AMENDMENTS ARE REVIEWED BY THE COMMISSION AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING SOME FORWARD THAT INCLUDE WATER CONSERVATION.
SO THAT IS A WAY THE COMMISSION PARTICIPATES IN THAT, BUT WHEN THEY REVIEW IT AS ZONING CASE, IT'S LAND USE SPACE.
SO WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THERE WAS A SIDEWALK GAP STUDY? LIKE, I FEEL LIKE WE USED TO DO THOSE A LOT, I WOULD SAY, UM, YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT RIGHT.
FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO THAT LONG.
WHEN I WAS WONDERING BEFORE WE DID ONE, YEAH.
SHOULD WE DO ANOTHER ONE? IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, WE CAN.
WHAT'S IT CALLED? UM, WHAT WE DO IS, UM, GIS, THEY HAVE A MAP, THEY HAVE THE EXISTING SIDEWALKS AND WE GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT MAJOR CORRIDORS LIKE ARTERIALS AND SOME COLLECTORS AND SEE WHERE THE GAPS ARE.
AND WE CAN KIND OF, I THINK LAST TIME WE HIGHLIGHTED THEM AND WE CAN DO A COST ESTIMATE ON THE PRICE PER FOOT OR SQUARE FOOT, BUT WE COULD LOOK AND PULL THAT TOGETHER.
THERE'S BEEN A, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY THERE WERE, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PLACES THAT WE HAD TO STRIKE LAST TIME FOR COSTS, WHERE YOU'VE SEEN MASSIVE GROWTH IN THE CITY UP NEAR THE HIGH SCHOOL, GLEN AND, AND THE, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WASN'T THERE, DEERBROOK HADN'T BEEN PUT IN YET.
SO, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT THAT CONNECTS THAT PART TO, UH, THAT'S MISSING THAT CONNECTS THEM TO THE MORE CENTRAL PART OF THE TOWN.
SO THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, WE USED TO GET A REPORT THAT WOULD HAVE, UM, AREAS AND IT WENT THROUGH PNC FIRST, BEFORE IT CAME TO US.
AND IT WAS AREAS OF TOWN WHERE THERE'S MISSING SIDEWALKS.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT LIKE CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY, IT'S PERFECT EXAMPLE.
AND, UM, THERE'LL BE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT WHICH ONES WE WOULD TAKE ON.
AND IT WOULD GET ADDED INTO OUR BUDGET TO GO OUT AND PUT IN SIDEWALKS AND THESE AREAS THAT WEREN'T BEING DEVELOPED.
SO I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY LIKE ANOTHER AMENDMENT.
DO WE NOT REQUIRE THE SIDEWALKS WHEN ABSOLUTELY THERE'S SOME, AND THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT MAY NOT BE REDEVELOPED THAT WE KNOW WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED.
WE CAN LOOK AT IT TO THAT ONE AS WELL, BUT THERE ARE SOME PATHS WHERE, UM, IT MAY NOT BE DEVELOPED FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, THERE'S ONE ON CRYSTAL FALLS WHERE THERE'S THIS WOMAN THAT USES HER SCOOTER.
UM, AND SHE HAS TO GO ACROSS THE DIRT.
WE HEAR FROM HER EVERY SO OFTEN, BUT WHEN THEY'RE MAJOR ARTERIALS AND SHE'S TRYING TO USE ANOTHER MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION.
SO SOME OF THEM ARE IN LIKE OLDER AREAS WHERE IT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO PUT IT IN, BUT THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENS AT COUNCIL.
SO I REMEMBER WE HAD IT LAST TIME WE STRUCK SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE, LIKE STUFF OVER IN THE TOD.
WE WERE LIKE, IT'S GOING TO DEVELOP PRETTY SOON.
THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO PUT THAT IN.
BUT LIKE ALONG CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY, THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS THERE THAT JUST, AREN'T GOING TO REDEVELOP ANYTIME SOON AND IT'S GETTING MORE AND MORE PEDESTRIAN USE.
SO I THINK THAT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STANDS OUT TO ME DURING SALES MEETINGS THAT WOULD BE REMISS NOT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE CONVERSATION THAT COMES UP SOMETIMES ABOUT, IS THIS A RENTAL
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OR IS THIS FOR SALE? THAT IS, UM, THAT'S A FAIR HOUSING LAWSUIT WAITING TO HAPPEN.SO I THINK THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN KIND OF, DID YOU SEE THAT FROM WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU OR MAYBE ASK, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S A STARTING PRICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING DOWN A DANGEROUS PATH WITH THAT WORDING SPECIFICALLY.
WE'RE NOT TO, TO CONSIDER OWNERSHIP.
SO THAT'S ALL THE NOTE PERFECT.
THAT'S SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE REALLY WANT IS COMMISSIONERS.
I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WERE PROFESSIONAL PLANNERS GOING INTO THIS.
AND, UH, WE, WE DO HAVE SOME WONDERFUL, UM, CONVENTION TIME WHERE WE DO LEARN A LOT, BUT WE'RE BOUND TO MAKE A MISTAKE HERE AND THERE.
AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO GET THAT FEEDBACK, WHETHER IT'S FROM ROBIN OR CITY COUNCIL ON ANYTHING, WHETHER IT'S A WRONG DOC PASS PROCESS OR AN ACTUAL ERROR IN THE PROCESS.
LIKE, I CAN JUST MENTION THERE, WE, WE WANT TO GET A RIDE.
WE ALL WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT.
AND THAT A LOT OF US ARE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT.
I THINK WE'RE ALL OPEN TO ADDITIONAL TRAINING.
IF YOU SEE AN AREA WHERE YOU FEEL LIKE WE ARE LACKING, WHETHER IT'S PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE CONDUCTING THE MEETINGS IN A DIFFERENT MANNER, OR, OR IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, FACT-BASED LIKE, YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT, THINGS, WE SHOULDN'T SAY IT WE'RE, WE'RE ALL OPEN TO ADDITIONAL TRENDS.
AND I ASSUME THAT YOU ARE THE KEEPER OF ALL THE PLACES THAT HAVE PNC TRAINING, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME RAG RUNNING AROUND, BUT AREN'T A LOT OF OPTIONS.
WE DO THE PLANNING CONFERENCE.
UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, THE PLANNING ASSOCIATION, THEY HAVE SOMEONE THAT DOES A P AND Z TRAINING AND THERE'S A FEE.
UM, IT'S PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL AND WE'D HAVE TO HAVE THEM COME ONSITE, BUT IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE DO A PARTNERSHIP WITH CEDAR PARK AND LIKE HAVE A JOINT TRAINING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAVE LIKE A VIDEO, LIKE THAT WOULD BE SO MUCH EASIER.
I THINK THEY DID RECORD THE RECENT COMMISSIONER TRAINING AT THE APA CONFERENCE.
UM, BUT THEY HAVEN'T SHARED WITH ME WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, BUY A COPY IF YOU WERE ATTENDED, IF YOU WERE AN ATTENDEE AT THE CONFERENCE, YOU COULD ACCESS TO AFTERWARDS FOR SIX MONTHS.
IT'S GOING TO SAY, UM, IF, IF ANY OF YOU AT ANY TIME, SEE WE'RE GOING DOWN THE WRONG PATH, WE'RE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, THAT'S A LAWSUIT PLACE, LET US KNOW RIGHT AWAY.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE BAD NEWS DOESN'T GET BETTER WITH TIME AND THAT TYPE OF THING, YOU KNOW, LET ROBIN KNOW, SHE'LL PASS THE MESSAGE TO ALL OF US SO THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT POINTING ANYONE OUT SAYING, HEY, WE WANT TO AVOID THESE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS.
AND THIS IS WHY, AND THAT WILL BE SUPER HELPFUL FOR US.
I THINK IT GOES BACK TO THE FIRST COMMENT THAT WE HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, SENATE ABOUT HAVING OUR OWN APPOINTEE THAT WE CAN GO TO AND BE LIKE, WE'VE ASKED THE SAME QUESTION.
WE'VE ALL ASKED THAT QUESTION.
SO I DON'T WANT, I'M SPEAKING FOR COUNCIL P AND Z.
I THINK THAT'S WHY WE WERE STARING AT, TOWARDS ROBIN IS BECAUSE ROBIN COULD SEND AN EMAIL TO ALL OF US.
WE CAN'T EVEN AS CHAIR, I CAN'T EMAIL THE DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF BNC.
IT HAS TO GO THROUGH ROBIN AND THAT'S NOT EASY, BUT THEN THAT BRINGS US TO, WE CAN'T TRUST STAFF.
SO I GUESS WE WOULD, THAT COULD BE FUNNY ADVICE.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT? CLOSING COMMENTS? SURE.
LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CLOSING COMES IN GENERAL OR FOR US.
LET'S KEEP THE DISCUSSIONS GOING.
Y'ALL FEEL LIKE WE NEED ANOTHER ONE OF THESE OUT OF CYCLE.
I KNOW I'M OPEN TO IT ARE Y'ALL ABSOLUTELY.
AND OVERALL, OVERALL Y'ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
WHAT'S BEEN COMING TO US AND, UM, THE THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION, PLEASE.
DO YOU WANT TO ADJOURN? YOUR PNC? PNC IS ADJOURNED.
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THE DISCUSSION[4. Quarterly Town Hall meeting.]
FROM CITIZEN INPUT ON TOPICS THAT ARE UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY COUNCIL.WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU WILL HAVE COME INTO THE MICROPHONE.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
UM, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO BE SORT OF LIKE COUNCIL MEETINGS.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK EXCEPT AFTER YOUR THREE MINUTES, WE WILL HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S NOT A BACK AND FORTH.
SO FIRST UP WE HAVE KATHLEEN BERNARDI.
GOOD EVENING, MS. BERNARDI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? OKAY.
UM, GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL.
I HAVE EVERYTHING WRITTEN DOWN AND I TIMED MYSELF BECAUSE I WAS SO NERVOUS.
I LIVE AT 14, 12 VALENTI LANE IN LEANDER.
I'M A MEMBER OF BOTH THE ACTIVE ADULT COMMITTEE AND THE GROUP FOR ACTIVE ADULTS.
I CHOSE TO RUN FOR THE COMMITTEE IN 2018.
WHEN I LEARNED A FOUR POINT $19 MILLION BOND HAD BEEN PASSED IN 2016, I WAS ANXIOUS TO BE ON BOARD FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
IT WAS AN EXCITING MEETING IN NOVEMBER OF 2018 TO MEET MY FELLOW MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, MR. TOMPKINS, AND THE ARCHITECTS PGAL GAVE US THE PLANS.
THEY SAID THEY WOULD HAVE TO TWEAK IT A BIT.
AS THE COST WAS NOW 5.4 MILLION.
MR. TOMPKINS ENDED THE MEETING SAYING WE WOULD BE KEPT IN THE LOOP IN MARCH, 2019.
I EMAILED HIM SAYING WE HAD NOT HEARD ANYTHING ON THE PROGRESS.
HE REPLIED, THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING ARE MOVING ALONG.
50% OF THE DOCUMENTS WERE COMPLETED A FEW WEEKS BEFORE BIDS WOULD GO OUT IN MAY OF 2019 OR JUNE 12 TO 15 MONTH BUILD OUT JULY, 2019.
I EMAILED AS WE HAD NO WORD, MR.
WE MET LEAH WARD, SENIOR ACTIVITY COORDINATOR AND COREY, A BODY SENIOR ACTIVITY SUPERVISOR, GREAT NEW FACES WITH HOPES IN THEIR HEARTS.
OUR SENIOR CENTER WOULD BE UNDERWAY.
THEN COVID HIT IN MARCH OF 2020, JULY 2ND, 2020.
I SENT ANOTHER EMAIL TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND MARK THOMPSON'S ASKING WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
THERE HAD NOT BEEN ANY COMMUNICATION.
SINCE NOVEMBER, 2019, I RECEIVED A TERSE RESPONSE FROM COUNCILMAN JASON SHOP.
HE STARTED OFF SAYING RUMORS AND PORT-A-POTTIES HAVE THE SAME THING IN COMMON.
THEY BOTH STINK AND ARE FULL OF CRAP.
HIS RESPONSE WAS YES, THE SENIOR CENTER WAS ON HOLD.
HE WOULD NOT, HE WOULD BE ON BOARD IF THE PROJECT WASN'T THE TAJ MAHAL AND THE SENIOR CENTER SHOULD BE MOVED.
SINCE I WATCHED THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ONLINE, I WASN'T SURPRISED, BUT I WAS SHOCKED BY HIS RESPONSE.
THE LEANDER ACTIVE ADULTS HAVE A FACEBOOK FOLLOWING OF 258 MEMBERS.
THERE ARE ABOUT 50 THAT ARE ACTIVE, MORE WOULD BE INVOLVED IF WE HAD A PLACE TO, UH, HAVE OUR ACTIVITIES.
COREY IS A VALUABLE ASSET THAT KEEPS US ON OUR TOES.
WE ARE GETTING BACK TO PRE COVID ACTIVITIES AND OUTINGS OUTDOOR EXERCISE WAS FINE DURING SUMMER MONTHS, AQUA AEROBICS, YOGA SURROGATE, BUT NOW AS IT IS GETTING COLDER, WE HAVE NOWHERE TO HAVE THESE ACTIVITIES.
COREY HAS COOKING CLASSES AND MONTHLY LUNCHEONS OUT DOORS AT THE MASON HOMESTEAD.
ACCORDING TO THE CIP, THE CENTER IS SLATED FOR FISCAL YEAR OF 20 23, 7 YEARS AFTER THE BOND WAS PASSED.
IN THE MEANTIME, COULD A BUILDING SOMETHING THAT WE CAN USE BE RENTED, PREFERABLY WITH AIR CONDITIONING HEATING AND A KITCHEN WOULD BE GREAT.
SO, UM, COUNSEL DID TALK TO MR. TILLMAN SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
AND SINCE YOU SAID YOU WATCHED THE MEETINGS, YOU PROBABLY SAW, UM, HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING BACK TO US WITH WHAT THE CURRENT OVERAGE IS IN COST BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE INCREASED CONSTRUCTION COSTS SINCE COVID, UM, WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK ON THAT YET.
SO I'M MAKING A NOTE TO ASK, UM, WHEN THAT WILL BE BACK.
UM, I KNOW THAT HE'S TALKED ABOUT A GRANT THAT HE'S PLANNING ON GOING OUT FOR THAT OPENS IN AUGUST OF THIS NEXT YEAR.
IT'S A BRAND NEW GRANT FROM TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE THAT SUPPORTS INDOOR ACTIVITIES.
UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY'VE DONE BEFORE.
USUALLY THEY JUST DO LIKE OUTDOOR TYPE THINGS.
UM, AND HE'S HOPING THAT WILL HELP OFFSET THINGS AS WELL.
UM, BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE REST OF THE CURRENT STATUS COUNCIL.
DO Y'ALL WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS? WE HAD ALSO
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MENTIONED TOO THAT BECAUSE THE FACILITIES STUDY WAS COMING BACK THIS MONTH, WHICH WILL BE TONIGHT.AND SO PART OF THAT WAS, UM, TO LOOK AT IT COMPREHENSIVELY SINCE IT HAS THE CAN, DID GET KICKED DOWN THE ROAD.
AND SO WE NEEDED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS COMING OR NOT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE FACILITIES PLAN WAS COMING IN TONIGHT.
AND SO WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT LOOKING AT IT HOLISTICALLY INSTEAD OF JUST THAT ONE PIECE, THAT TO SEE HOW IT COULD ALL PLAY TOGETHER.
I MEAN, PERSONALLY, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S WAYS FOR US TO MAYBE, UM, GET MULTI-USE OUT OF SOME THINGS AND, AND LOOK AT HOLISTICALLY BECAUSE I THINK AS A CITY'S GROWN, THERE'S JUST SO MANY OTHER BUILDINGS THAT EVERYBODY'S BUSTING AT THE SCENES.
SO HOW CAN WE SORT OF GET THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK WITH ALL THE BUILDINGS? I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE FROM COUNSEL FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.
IS THERE A THOUGHT PROCESS ON RENTING A FACILITY IN THE MEANTIME? I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA SUGGESTIONS ON WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE.
OH, I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR THE BRAINSTORMING PIECE OF IT AND SEEING WHAT IDEAS, WHEN YOU COME UP WITH HAVING, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
IT'S JUST FIGURING IT OUT, BUT I'M DEFINITELY OPEN TO OPTIONS.
WE'VE GOT TO GET SOMETHING GOING AND KICKED DOWN THE ROAD.
NOW THE COST HAS GONE UP AND THEN NOT NECESSARILY
SO WE KEEP BLAMING COVID OR SOMEONE WHO'S WANTING COVID AND COVID HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT WAS ALREADY OVER BUDGET HOURS.
AND THAT'S JUST A FACT, THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT AN EMOTIONAL STATEMENT OR, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ALSO MONEY OUTSIDE OF THE BOND THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO MAKE UP THAT MILLION.
AND NOW WE'RE SO FAR OVER IT OVER THE BUDGET TO BEGIN WITH.
AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY THINKS THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.
IT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST PART OF THE FACT TOO, TO FACTOR INTO IT THAT IT'S NOT COVID, IT WAS ALREADY OVER BUDGET.
MY, MY DESIRE TO PUSH FOR I'M WAITING FOR THE FACILITIES PLAN THAT WAS MOST RECENTLY IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS WAS, UM, BECAUSE IT'S A MORE HOLISTIC LOOK AND MAYBE THERE'S A BETTER USE.
MAYBE THERE'S A BETTER LOCATION THAN MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCESSIBLE AS WELL TO THE ALTERNATE LOCATION.
DIDN'T ACTUALLY COME FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
IT ACTUALLY CAME FROM SOMEBODY WHO THE SENIOR COMMUNITY THAT SPENDS A LOT OF TIME DOWN THERE.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THAT GOT INTRODUCED TO US IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT FOR ONE OF US TO LOOK YOU IN THE EYE AND TELL YOU THAT, RATHER THAN JUST ASSUMING THAT IT WAS SOMEBODY YOU ARE A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER OR ANYBODY ELSE, UM, WE, WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLACE.
UM, WE ALSO WANT TO DO IT AS RESPONSIBLY AS POSSIBLE.
WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER AND THAT SPAWN SELLER.
HI, DO I HAVE TO DO MY ADDRESS? OKAY.
AND THAT SPAWN SELLER, UM, I WANT TO JUST TALK TO YOU ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, WITH THE LCRA, THEY HAVE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP, UM, AND APPLICATIONS ARE GOING TO BE OPENING IN JANUARY.
SO LIKE NOW IT'D BE THE TIME TO PREP.
IF WE WERE GOING TO UTILIZE ANY OF THAT, UM, THEY HELP LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FUND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT MIGHT NOT OTHERWISE BE POSSIBLE WITH, UM, GRANTS, UM, AWARDED TWICE A YEAR, RANGING FROM A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO $50,000.
IT HAS TO BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND IMPROVE THE VALUE OF A CAPITAL ASSET.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, UM, WE HAVE WELL OVER $2 MILLION WORTH OF WATER ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, ALONE, UM, OR EVEN ITEM 21, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER $38,000 FOR AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT VEHICLE.
THAT WOULD TOTALLY BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE UTILIZED THIS GRANT FUNDING TO OFFSET THAT COST, UM, ON SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, WHATEVER IT IS, LOOK AT IT.
I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING HERE BEFORE THE CLOCK STARTS.
UM, I CAME TO THE TOWN HALL ENVISIONING THAT THIS WOULD BE PACKED.
EVERYONE HAS SOMETHING TO SAY AND NOT SO MUCH FOR PEOPLE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE CITY, BUT WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND HERE'S, I THINK WE'RE CLOCKING START RUNNING.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH A TIME OF GROWTH IN THE CITY.
I THINK WE'RE ROUGHLY HALFWAY THROUGH A TIME OF REALLY NICE GROWTH, RIGHT? EVENTUALLY IT'LL COME TO THE SORT OF COME TO AN END.
AND IN, IN BIBLICAL TERMS, THERE'S, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE SEVEN YEARS OF FAT COWS.
AND SOON ENOUGH, SOMEDAY, WE'LL GO THROUGH SEVEN YEARS OF SKINNY COWS.
RIGHT? I FEAR THAT IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT NOW, 30 YEARS FROM NOW,
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WELL INTO THE FUTURE, PEOPLE WILL LOOK BACK AND THEY'LL ASK PEOPLE LIKE ME, WE ALL HAVE ONE FOOT IN THE GRAVE BY THEN SAYING, WHAT WERE YOU GUYS THINKING? WHY DIDN'T YOU SEE THESE ISSUES? AND WHY DIDN'T YOU ADDRESS THEM WHEN THEY WERE, WHEN, WHEN THE COFFERS WERE FULL AND YOU KNEW YOU HAD THE PROBLEM.AND SO WHAT I'M ASKING YOU GUYS IS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THESE ISSUES.
WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE FORWARD-LOOKING.
AND AS, AS, AS A CITY, ALL OF US, I, I WOULD LIKE TO FIND MORE WAYS TO HAVE S UH, CITIZENS ENGAGEMENT IN THESE THINGS, AND, AND EVEN FURTHER DEFINE WHO WE ARE AS, AS A COMMUNITY.
I DON'T REALLY SEE ANYWHERE WHAT DEFINES WHO WE ARE, WHAT DO WE STAND FOR AS A CITY? UH, WE HAVE A FIVE-YEAR PLAN, AND WE TALK ABOUT THE STUFF WE'RE GOING TO DO, RIGHT? AND THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING IN AND THE CHARTER, WHICH I'M THINKING YOU LOOK AT NOW, IT DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS THAT OTHER THAN THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT ARE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO DECIDE AS A, AS A CITY, WHAT DO WE STAND FOR? SOMETHING THAT REALLY PUTS US OUT THERE? IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S SOMEWHAT SCARY, NOT LIKE WE'LL BE THE FRIENDLIEST CITY IN TEXAS.
IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING TRULY THAT THAT MAKES US STRETCH.
AND WITH AN IDEA THAT INSPIRES ALL OF US, THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY TACKLE THESE ISSUES.
AND OF COURSE, THIS STUFF I'M KIND OF HINTING AT, AS WE ARE DESPERATELY IN NEED OF MORE PARKLAND, RIGHT? IF WE'RE A CITY THAT ULTIMATELY WILL BE ABOUT FAMILIES AND FAMILY LIFE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THIS STUFF NOW, REALLY 30 YEARS FROM NOW, IT'S GOING TO BE A PATHETICALLY CITY FULL OF FULL OF CEMENT AND PEOPLE LOOKING BACK AND SAYING, WHY DIDN'T ANYONE DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? AND I KNOW PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT ME SAYING, HEY, YOU WERE THERE SHOWING UP IN MEETINGS, WHY WASN'T ANYTHING DONE? AND I WANT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF THE BLAME NOW IN ADVANCE AND, AND SEE WHAT, UH, WHAT CAN BE ADDRESSED AND JUST PUT IT AS MUCH ON THE AGENDA AS POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
I THINK WE'RE ALL GENERALLY IN AGREEMENT.
NO, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE AND A LOT EASIER TO BUILD IT, RIGHT.
THE FIRST TIME THAN TRYING TO REDEVELOP THINGS LATER AND REDO THINGS LATER.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A FACT, UM, AND I THINK IT IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, RIGHT.
IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO, SOMETIMES YOU'VE GOT TO REALLY BUST THAT CRYSTAL BALL TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FEATURES GOING TO HOME.
I THINK WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS SINCE THE RETREAT ABOUT COMMUNITY IDENTITY AND WHAT WE WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR AND WHAT IS OUR IDENTITY AS LEANDER.
SO WE WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATION AROUND THAT AND STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT.
AND I THINK ACTUALLY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS ALSO WORKING IN THAT REGARD, UM, FROM A BRANDING STANDPOINT.
THAT HOOK TO PARTNER WITH ON THAT, AS FAR AS PARKLAND GOES, I KNOW I'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR PARKS DIRECTOR ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF HAVING AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT THAT REQUIRES MORE PARKLAND DEDICATION FOR THE HOUSING COMING IN AND NOT BEING ABLE TO JUST PAY THE FEE, BUT TO HAVE ACTUAL PARKLAND, UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SWAT AWAY HOME BUILDERS FAST ENOUGH.
SO, UM, LET'S, LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET SOME OF THIS PARKLAND AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HOPE WE'LL SEE COME TO COUNCIL.
I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THOUGH, IS, IS THE BIGGER PART OF LANDLORD, MORE THINGS THAT CONNECT.
AND THE ONLY THING THAT WILL BE HARD ABOUT THAT ONE AS WE'RE JUST THE ONE WE'RE BRINGING IT UP.
I THINK IT'LL BE HARD ABOUT THAT IS THOSE ARE MOSTLY LIKE INSIDE THE COMMUNITY TYPE OF THING.
SO IT BECOMES POCKET PART OF THE POCKET, PART OF THE POCKET PARK AND A COMMUNITY PARK COMMUNITY PARK, RATHER THAN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALSO TOO, IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, A BIGGER MARK EXTRAVAGANT THINGS THAT CONNECTS TO OUR APARTMENT NEAR THE TRAIL SYSTEM, MAYBE FUTURE LAND THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY AS POTENTIAL GENE PARKLAND, STUFF LIKE THAT, TOO.
SOMETHING WE DO BOTH TOGETHER.
THE FEES I BELIEVE IS WHAT IS, IS THAT NOT WHAT PAID FOR LAKEWOOD? THE FACE OF OUR KIND DEDICATION FEES.
SO AS OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THERE ALSO GRANDPARENTS' PROPERTY TO BE DONATED.
THE FEES ALLOW US TO SAY, WHERE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BUY? YEAH.
BUT IN THIS MARKET, YOU CAN DO THE FEES ALL DAY LONG AND YOU CAN'T AFFORD ANY OF THE LAND.
SO, BUT WHAT HE'S SAYING IS YOU STILL NEED TO GET APART, BUT IT'S NOT WHAT WE NEED.
WELL, IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU GUYS DO TO LET PEOPLE KNOW GOOD JOB TO GET THE WORD OUT, BUT IT'S NOT REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTING OUR TOWN PLACE TO DISCUSS OPPORTUNITY AND POSSIBILITY THERE'S ANOTHER FORUM.
AND SO WE WERE ACTUALLY, WHEN WE HAD LESS COMMENTS, WE BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A BETTER WAY TO ACTUALLY ENGAGE THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW? AND, UH, I THINK THE FIRST COUPLE OF TIMES THIS HAS BEEN YOUR THIRD IS OUR THIRD ONE.
PROBABLY DEPENDS IF THERE'S HOT TOPICS, BUT IN GENERAL, THIS
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IS A REALLY IMPORTANT TIME FOR OUR CITY.THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT.
I THINK YOU'RE ALL LIKE ALSO PIGGYBACK ON THE PARKS.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE AN INTENTIONAL, MAKE AN INTENTIONAL EFFORT AS A CITY TO ACTUALLY GO LOOK AT FUTURE PARKLAND TOO.
UM, AND NOT BE WAITING ON DEVELOPMENTS, ESPECIALLY WITH BIGGER PIECES OF ART.
SORRY, BIGGER PIECES OF PROPERTY OR BIGGER PARCELS ARE BEING ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.
UM, THERE'S WAYS FOR US TO MAYBE WORK WITH ROBIN AND WORK WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND WORK WITH RICK, UM, ON HOW WE SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT COME TOGETHER.
OUR LAST SPEAKER TONIGHT IS MACDONALD IT'S.
MCDONALD'S, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE THIS TOWN HALL WITH Y'ALL.
THIS IS MY FIRST MEETING, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT VENUE.
AND I BROUGHT TWO PEOPLE FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THE WORD GOT OUT.
SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING THESE IT'S IT'S A FANTASTIC VENUE.
I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THAT FUTURE PLANNING.
UM, THAT IS A GREAT IDEA ABOUT FUTURE PLANNING, BECAUSE WE HAVE GONE TO LAKEWOOD PARK.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC THOUGH, BECAUSE IN OUR COMMUNITY PREMERA RIDGE, I LIVE IN 2 41, 6 ON NEUROTIC STREET, WHICH IS A PAMORA, IT'S A VERY BUSY ROAD.
I'M SURE THIS HAS BEEN UP FOR DISCUSSION.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH IT, BUT OUR, I HAVE SEVERAL, UM, INSTANCES OF SUGGESTIONS THAT MAYBE I CAN JUST SHARE WITH YOU.
UM, THE SCHOOL'S ZONE IN FRONT OF TARPIN IS VERY, VERY SMALL AND CHILDREN ARE HAVING A HARD TIME JUST CROSSING THE STREET OR RIDING THEIR BIKES WITHOUT HAVING INCIDENT.
SO WE'RE ASKING THAT THE SCHOOL ZONE BE EXPANDED OUT TO LOGAN DEL AND PRIMERA.
THAT'S AN IDEA, UM, LIT CROSS WALKS, UM, TO WHENEVER YOU PUSH THE BUTTON, THE LITTLE LIGHTS LIGHT UP.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT, UM, ADDING A CROSSING GUARD, UM, OUT A SLOWDOWN FLASHING LIGHT ON THE SUN SOUTH, I'M SORRY, SOUTHBOUND ROAD.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN DOWN RONALD REAGAN.
IF HE GOES SOUTHBOUND, IT GOES UP A HILL AND IT'S A BLIND SPOT AND THERE HAS BEEN INCIDENCES AND TRAFFIC INCIDENCES ALL OVER THAT SPOT HERE AWAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FAMILIAR WITH, IS THAT RECOGNIZED AS IT SOUNDING RECOGNIZABLE, UM, AND THEN ADDING A RED LIGHT AND EVEN POSSIBLY A RED LIGHT TRAFFIC TICKETS CAMERA.
SO IF SOMEBODY COMES OUT INTO HERO WAY, THEN THEY GET TICKETED.
SO THOSE ARE SOME SUGGESTIONS FROM MY COMMUNITY AND I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS THOSE ON OUR, ON PRIMARY RICH BEHALF.
AND IS THERE ANY KIND OF, OH, THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY ADDRESS SOME OF THESE RIGHT NOW? SO THERE IS A LIGHT THAT'S APPROVED FOR REAGAN AND HERO.
IT JUST WRAPPED UP DESIGN, I BELIEVE.
UM, SO THAT SHOULD BE COMING UP.
IT TAKES A WHILE TO PUT THOSE IN, UM, WE CAN'T DO STOP CAMERAS LIKE RED LIGHT CAMERAS.
UM, BUT WE CAN PUT OUT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR TRAFFIC TEAM TO DO MORE ENFORCEMENT, UM, HAVE Y'ALL REACHED OUT.
THERE'S A LINK ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE ON THE POLICE.
WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH THEM DECEMBER THE SECOND.
UM, AND MY HUSBAND WHO WORKS FOR HE MAY OR MAY NOT SPEAK, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, HE WORKS FOR TEXTILE WAS ALSO GOING TO BE A TEAM MEETING.
HE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK RIGHT AFTER YOU.
UM, SO YEAH, MY QUESTION IN REGARDS TO STUDIES AND ENGINEERING STUDIES, IS THERE ANYTHING DONE IN REGARDS TO RONALD REAGAN OR HAS HAD THOSE ALREADY BEEN DONE WITH THE NEW SCHOOL TRAFFIC THAT WE GET? WE JUST APPROVED A STUDY FOR THE ENTIRETY OF RIGOR TO LOOK AT THE SAFETY AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT LIGHTS AND TURN AROUNDS AND ALL OF THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
SO IT TAKES TIME, BUT IT'S APPROVED IT'S IN THE PIPELINE.
UM, I'M GLAD TO HEAR YOU ALREADY HAVE A MEETING ON THE BOOKS CAUSE I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE PASS YOUR INFO ALONG TO OUR TRAFFIC TEAM, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, UM, THE BLINKING LIGHTS, THE EXPANDED SCHOOLS ZONE, UM, WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE GREAT AT THIS SORT OF STUFF.
SO IF YOU'RE EVER DRIVING AROUND, LIKE ON CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY, UM, YOU'LL SEE ONE OF THOSE, OR LIKE IN FRONT OF PLEASANT HILL ELEMENTARY, THERE WAS LIKE A LITTLE RADAR SIGN THAT SHOWS YOU HOW FAST PEOPLE ARE GOING.
UM, THAT'S DONE THROUGH OUR TRAFFIC TEAM AND THEY, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE'S THESE PROBLEM POINTS.
SO WE CAN GET THE PERMANENT FIX OF PUTTING IN A LIGHT OR SOMETHING, THINGS DOWN ON HER.
IN THE MEANTIME, WE ALSO, UH, PRIOR COUNSEL DID LOW THE SPEED LIMIT RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR COMMUNITY TO WHEN HE GOES OVER THE PRESS, THERE TOOK A LOT OF HEAT FOR IT TOO, BECAUSE NOBODY LIKES TO BE TOLD TO SLOW DOWN, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT INTERRUPTS, YOU KNOW, INTERRUPTS THEIR FLOW.
SO, UM, WE JUST, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CORRIDOR.
UM, IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY LESS TRAFFIC ON IT.
WE'RE USED TO DRIVING VERY FAST BECAUSE OF WHAT IT TRADITIONALLY OR WHAT HAS IT LOOKED LIKE IN THE PAST 10 YEARS? UM, SO JUST KNOW THAT THAT'S ON OUR RADAR AS WELL.
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AND ENFORCEMENT IT'S TOUGH.SO I JUST WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE BESIDES LAW ENFORCEMENT CROSSING GUARDS.
ALSO THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT CAN ADDRESS THAT WITH THEM, WHO WOULD EXTEND THE SCHOOL ZONE.
WOULD THAT BE THIS US OR WOULD THAT BE, THAT WOULD BE US.
SO IN THE ENGINEERING STUDY, CAN YOU ADD EXTENDING THE SCHOOL ZONE THAT DOESN'T NEED TO GO IN THE ENGINEERING STUDY? OH, YOU CAN APPROVE IT TODAY.
HAVE YOUR MEETING WITH THE PD, HAVE YOUR MEETING WITH THE PD, THEY'LL HELP TO, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT THAT.
IDENTIFY AREAS THAT IT COULD BE EXTENDED TO IF THEY THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND THEN, YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, BUT JUST COMES UP ON A COUNCIL AGENDA AND WE JUST APPROVE SCHOOL ZONES.
WE'VE DONE IT, UM, BEFORE FOR THE, UM, THE CHARTER SCHOOL.
NOW OUR REAL LAST SPEAKER IS DAVID MCDONALD.
SO LONG-TIME RESIDENT, BUT FIRST TIME ATTENDING THE COUNCIL MEETING.
SO I REALLY ENJOY THE FORMAT HERE.
IT'S PRETTY LAID BACK AND, UH, ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT STUFF.
SO YES, I DO KNOW THE LADY THAT WAS JUST UP HERE AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS OVER THEIR MAIN TRAFFIC IS TERRIBLE.
AND RONALD REAGAN, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU LIVE AROUND THAT AREA, BUT MAN COMING HOME NORTH, UM, ONCE YOU HIT 2243, IF YOU HIT AT THE WRONG TIME OF DAY, IT'S BACKED UP ALMOST TO CRYSTAL FALLS.
BUT ANYWAYS, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT.
ACTUALLY HERE, JUST TO REALLY KIND OF START A DISCUSSION AND ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE METRO RAIL SYSTEM.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE GIVE HALF OF OUR SALES TAX TO THEM.
IS THAT CORRECT? AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DO A Q AND A TYPE DEAL OR JUST SAY MY THINGS AND THEN YOU GUYS, IT'S BETTER IF YOU SAY YOUR THINGS, BUT I'LL SAY THAT, UM, THEY'RE A SPECIAL DISTRICT.
SO WE DON'T EVEN SEE THAT SALES TAX.
THEY COLLECT IT BEFORE WE COLLECT OUR, BUT IS THAT OKAY? SO MY QUESTION IS, IS WHAT ARE, WHAT IS OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT? BECAUSE WHENEVER I GET STUCK AT THE LIGHT, BECAUSE ONE OF THOSE IS GOING BY AND I LOOK AND IT'S LIKE, IS THERE ANYBODY ON THERE? I NEED TO SAY THESE 5,000 CARS, ALL FOUR DIRECTIONS AT THE INTERSECTION AND PEOPLE STUCK AND IT'S CAUSING CONGESTION ACTUALLY FOR OUR CITY AND NOT, I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S REALLY RELIEVING AND CONGESTION FOR US.
SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE RIDERSHIP IS AND WHAT OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS.
AND IS IT WORTH ACTUALLY STAYING IN THIS? AND IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY BRING UP TO MAYBE THE VOTERS, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT PROBABLY HAS TO GO TO A VOTE TO OTHER CITIZENS TO MAYBE GET OUT OF THAT, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE RADAR AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK ON? DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THE LEAD TALKING ABOUT? YES.
SO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED ARE ABSOLUTELY ON THE RADAR, WE, UM, ARE IN THE PROCESS AND ACTUALLY AT OUR DECEMBER MEETING, WE WILL HAVE THE SECOND, I THINK IT'S DECEMBER 16TH.
WE ACTUALLY STARTED A TRANSPORTATION STUDY, A REQUESTED ONE.
UM, THAT'S BEEN DONE RIGHT NOW.
WE HAD, UM, LAST WEEK SORT OF A PRELIMINARY RIDERSHIP AND IT'S, IT'S NOT MUCH IT'S GETTING BACK TO A PRE COVID LEVELS, BUT, UM, BUT WE'LL IT, THE REST OF THE STUDY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT, UM, THE MONEY PIECE OF IT, UM, ALTERNATIVES, UM, IF LAND OR VOTERS DECIDED TO STAY IN OR GET OUT AND ALL JUST ALL THE OPTIONS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PRESENTED TO US IN DECEMBER.
UM, SO I THINK WE'RE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THAT.
UM, BUT, AND AS FAR AS THE, UM, THE TRAFFIC, WHEN THE, THE ARMS ARE DOWN AND TRAINS ARE COMING THROUGH, THERE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN, UM, SOME SYSTEM UPDATES THAT HAVE HAPPENED VERY RECENTLY AND, AND SEVERAL OF US, MYSELF, AND A FEW PEOPLE FROM KAT METRO IN THE CITY ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY.
AND SO THERE IS, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON LINES OF COMMUNICATION.
SO WHEN THERE IS AN ACTUAL PROBLEM, UM, THAT THE RIGHT PEOPLE ARE GETTING CONTACTED SO THAT WE CAN RESOLVE THOSE VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE WE KNOW MY HUSBAND COMMUTES FROM GEORGETOWN TO LANDER.
SO HE SCREAMS AT ME EVERY DAY AT ABOUT 2243 AND RONALD REAGAN.
UM, BUT THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS, IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING NOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THOSE SYSTEMS UPDATED, UM, THAT TO SEE IF THEY'RE WORKING RIGHT, BECAUSE WE, ACCORDING TO THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW A LOT MORE THAN I DO, SOME OF THESE SYSTEM UPDATES SHOULD HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT.
UM, AND IN ADDITION TO SOME TRAINING, UM, NEW DISPATCH SOFTWARE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT HAVE COME INTO PLAY PROBABLY IN THE LAST 15, 30 DAYS THAT NOW WE'RE SORT OF, WE'RE IN CONSTANT CONTACT, BUT ARE WATCHING TO SEE IF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FIX.
SOME OF THE TRACKS WE ISSUES ARE WORKING APPROPRIATELY CUSTOMERS.
UM, I WOULD JUST SAY, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A SECOND COUNCIL MEETING THAT YOU COME TO AT SOME POINT THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD ONE.
AND THEN THE REST OF THE GIRLS WAS CONCERNED AT THE SAME
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TOPIC THAT YOU JUST BROUGHT UP ON YOUR OWN, UM, WOULD BE PROBABLY WELL ADVISED TO AT A MINIMUM, AT LEAST WATCH THE RECORDING OR WATCH IT ONLINE BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT IS SHARED, UM, THERE, AND ON THAT INFORMATION IS HOW WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AS A CITY COUNCIL TO ALLOW CITIZENS TO MAKE DECISIONS TO GET THAT IS WHAT WE CHOOSE TO DO.SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD ONE TO TURN INTO AND AS A REALLY, UM, PERFECT TIMING BY YOU ASKING THAT QUESTION, DO YOU WATCH THE LAST ONE? I WAS GOING TO SAY, YEAH, GO ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND YOU CAN WATCH, OR OUR MEETINGS ARCHIVED AND THE VERY LAST ONE WE HAD, UM, SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY DATA ON RIDERSHIP THAT CAME IN.
IT'S TWO MEDIUMS FROM NOW, BUT IT WOULD BE DECEMBER 16TH, 16TH.
THE FINAL REPORT, JUST, I KNOW, I GET FRUSTRATED WHEN I SAY THE TRAIN WAS EMPTY AS WELL, BUT WE DO HAVE BUS SERVICE TOO.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT RIDERSHIP OF CLASS PLUS IN RAIL.
ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.
UM, THIS CONCLUDES OUR BRIEFING WORKSHOP.
PLEASE BE IN YOUR SEATS AT SEVEN O'CLOCK FOR OUR MEETING.
[5. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.]
GOOD EVENING.TODAY IS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 18TH, 2021.
AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LANDER CITY COUNCIL, BISHOP MARK BROWN OF FAITH CITY CHURCH.
WE'LL BE PROVIDING OUR INVOCATION.
PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
WE THINK IT TODAY, GOD, WE GIVE YOU ALL THE GLORY.
YOU'RE ABLE TO DO EXCEEDINGLY ABUNDANTLY ABOVE WHAT THEY CAN TO SQUARE THE POWER THAT WORKS IN HIS FATHER.
GOD, WE THANK YOU TONIGHT, FATHER, FOR THIS COUNCIL MEETING FATHER, WE THANK YOU.
GOLFER MAYOR, CINDER, CHRIS' FATHER GOD, AND EVERY COUNCIL FATHER.
WE ASK THAT YOUR WISDOM ARRESTS RULE REMAIN UPON EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER AND EVERY DECISION THAT THEY MAKE GOD WILL BE BASED UPON YOUR WHEEL, YOUR WAY AND YOUR WISDOM FATHER.
WE THANK YOU FATHER FOR THIS GREAT MAYOR AND THIS CITY FATHER THAT YOU COVER, HER FAMILY COVER HER AS SHE LEAVES THE CITY TO THE DESTINIES AND YOU PREDESIGNED FOR THIS GREAT CITY.
THE CITY OF LEANDER, WE PRAY FOR EVERY COUNCILMAN AND THEIR FAMILY PROVISION PROTECTION AND STRENGTH.
GIVE EACH OF THEM AND OUR MAYOR WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING AND LET THEM LEAD AND LEAVE HERE TONIGHT, KNOWING THAT THEY MADE THE RIGHT DECISION FOR THEM, COVER CHIEF MITTEN AND CHIEF WATSON HENSON AND EVERY STAFF AND EVERY EMPLOYEE OF THIS GREAT CITY OF LEANDER.
WE SPEAK PROSPERITY WAS BIG FAVOR.
YOU SAID IN YOUR WORD, WHATEVER, WE BOUND ON OUR SUB, BE BOUND IN HEAVEN AND WHATEVER WE LOOSE ON EARTH SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN.
THAT'S OPPOSITE AGAINST YOUR WHEEL, YOUR WAY AND YOUR WISDOM TONIGHT.
AND WE LOSE YOUR WILL AND YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR WAY FOR THIS CITY.
GOD, YOU DECLARED A NEW WORD THAT IS NOT BY MIGHT NOT BY POWER, BUT BY YOUR SPIRIT FATHER, WE THINK IT TODAY, WE GIVE YOU THE GLORY.
WE GIVE YOU ALL THE HONOR THAT EVERYBODY THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
THEY WILL NOT BE CONDESCENDING, BUT FATHER, IT WILL BE UPLIFTING FATHER.
AND WE THANK YOU TODAY THAT EVERYTHING WILL BE SET IN ORDER THAT IT'S A, IT'S AN ALIGNMENT FOR THE ASSIGNMENT FOR THIS CITY FOR THIS TIME.
AND FOR THIS SEASON, GOD, WE DECLARED AND WE DECREE THAT YOU ARE THE CENTER, THE CIRCUMFERENCE, THE BASE, THE BOUNDARY, THE PSALM, AND THE SUBSEQUENT.
LIFE'S ALL ABOUT IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU, BUT GIVE IT THE GLORY.
AND WE GIVE YOU ALL THE HONOR IN JESUS' NAME IN THE HOUSE SAID, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[6. Roll Call.]
CRABTREE, WE PLEASE CALL ROLL.COUNCIL MEMBER, KATHERINE BATTALION PARKER HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER, JASON SHAW COUNCIL MEMBER, NICOLE THOMPSON, PRESIDENT COUNCILMAN CHRIS ARNETT, MAYOR PRO TEM, BECKY ROSS HERE, MAYOR CHRISTINE SAID HERE, QUORUM IS PRESENT AND THE CITY COUNCIL'S ELIGIBLE DO BUSINESS.
MOVING ON TO ITEM SEVEN NON-AGENDA ITEMS, PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
I WILL CALL ON SPEAKERS PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED COMMENTS VIA THE WEBSITE WILL ONLY HAVE THEIR POSITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD.
ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL AND WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORDS.
UM, THERE'S NOBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS TONIGHT.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK EXCELLENT.
[8. Recognitions/Proclamations/Visitors.]
MOVING ALONG ITEM EIGHT, PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PROCLAMATIONS OR RECOGNITIONS.
UM, BUT UM, JUST TAKING AN ASIDE, UM, THERE WAS
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AN ALLEGATION THAT WAS MADE TODAY.MR. GRIMSBY, WILL YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD? MR. GRENSHAW? I WAS JUST TOLD THAT TODAY IS YOUR BIRTHDAY.
IS THAT TRUE? AND YOU'RE SPENDING IT WITH YOUR FAVORITE PEOPLE.
I HAVE YOUR WHOLE TIME THINKING ALLEGATION.
THAT IS NOT THE WORD, NOT THE WORD YOU WANT TO HEAR WHEN YOU'RE WALKING UP TO THE PODIUM.
UH, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR BIRTHDAY WISHES.
I APPRECIATED THE STAFF DECORATED THE, UH, MY OFFICE AND SO IT WAS GREAT.
SO ANYWAY, HAD, UH, HAD A GOOD DAY.
ALL MEETINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT WATER COULD HAVE HAD A BETTER DAY.
WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPENDING IT WITH US AND DON'T GO ANYWHERE.
IF Y'ALL WILL PLEASE JOIN US IN STANDING AND SINGING.
MARIN COUNCIL, YOU HAD CAKE LEFT, RIGHT? NO CAKE.
I DON'T NEED ANY MORE CAKES AND A HUGE THANK YOU TO MR. NEW WHO DROPPED THE DIME ON YOU THOUGH? ALL RIGHT.
[9. Board Reports Exploring Leander history]
NUMBER NINE, EXPLORING LEANDER HISTORY WITH CAT HOWELL.MAYOR COUNCIL AND EVERYONE HERE.
IS THIS ONE? I DON'T THINK IT IS.
I AM TALKING ABOUT VETERANS THIS EVENING.
LAST WEEK WAS, UM, VETERANS DAY.
AND THEN COMING UP ON DECEMBER 7TH IS THE 80TH ANNIVERSARY OF PEARL HARBOR DAY.
SO WE'RE PACKED WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE THERE.
UM, I'M STARTING OFF WITH TEXAS LEANDER HERE.
UM, UP HERE, THERE IS A, UM, SOME SAMPLES OF THE TEXAS REVOLUTION, ERA SOLDIERS AND WHAT THEY LOOKED LIKE.
UM, BASICALLY THERE WERE NO UNIFORMS. THE NAVY DID HAVE SOME UNIFORMS AND I DON'T HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, BUT THEY WERE VERY FEW.
AND, UM, BASICALLY EVERYONE PROVIDED THEIR OWN THING UP AT THE TOP IS ACTUALLY A GENTLEMAN THAT WAS FROM LEANDER AND HE WAS KILLED IN WORLD WAR II, BUT THAT WAS VERY SIMILAR TO HOW RANGERS THE TEXAS RANGERS DRESSED TEXAS RANGERS AT THE TIME WERE CALLED THE TEXAS RANGING CORPS.
AND THEY WERE SENT OUT TO PROTECT SETTLERS AND CITIZENS FROM ALL KINDS OF MAYHEM.
AND RIGHT THERE AT THE BOTTOM IS ONE OF THE, THE RANGERS.
WE HAVE 11 BURIED IN BAGHDAD CEMETERY, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE CROSSES THAT MARKS THE GRAVES THERE.
HERE WE HAVE SOLDIERS FROM LEANDER THAT WERE IN WORLD WAR ONE, AND WE HAVE OFFICERS ENLISTED MEN, PRIVATES AND SAILORS THAT WERE IN WORLD WAR ONE.
UM, OUR POPULATION AT THAT TIME WAS ABOUT 300.
AND EVEN THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, THEY STILL HAVE THE ROLL CALL OF THE WAR.
ONE SOLDIERS IN THE FELLOWSHIP HALL.
THEY, YEAH, IT'S STILL ON THE WALL.
HERE IS JUST A LITTLE SAMPLE OF SOME OF THE WORLD WAR II VETERANS THAT WE HAVE BURIED IN, IN LEANDER.
I LOVE THE ONE AT THE BOTTOM LEFT.
IT ALWAYS REMINDS ME OF GOMER PYLE.
UM, THE LADY IN THE MIDDLE, SHE W THERE WERE 324,000 WOMEN THAT SERVED IN WORLD WAR II OF THOSE 324,000.
WHEN YOU GET THE STATISTICS ON WORLD WAR II, THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED.
WE HAD 16 MILLION, 16, 16.1 MILLION MEN THAT SERVED IN WORLD WAR II, US MEN, OUR MEN'S POPULATION AT THAT TIME WAS 17.3 MILLION.
I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY LIKES THE MATH, BUT I DID THE MATH ON THIS 93% OF ALL MEN BETWEEN THE AGES OF 15 AND 30 SERVED AS A SOLDIER.
ART SERVED IN THE MILITARY DURING WORLD WAR II AND LEANDER BY THE NUMBER OF PERSONS THAT WE HAVE BURIED IN OUR CEMETERIES HERE.
THAT NUMBER IS, UM, PRETTY SOLID HERE FOR LEANDER AS WELL.
SO ESSENTIALLY EVERY ABLE-BODIED MALE IN THAT AGE GROUP, THEY SERVED IN THE MILITARY.
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REASON WHY THEY'RE CALLED THE GREATEST GENERATION BECAUSE THEY REALLY WEREN'T.THEY GAVE EVERYTHING THEY HAD, INCLUDING ALL OF THEIR, ALL THEIR SONS.
UM, THE WOMAN IN THE MIDDLE, SHE WAS PART OF, SHE WAS A MARINE.
UM, SHE SERVED IN A UNIT THAT, UM, THEY SOLVED THE ENIGMA CODE.
SHE, THAT, THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE, THE WAR SERVICE WAS NOT DECLASSE DECLASSIFIED UNTIL THE 1980S.
SHE DID NOT SAY A WORD UNTIL THE 1990S WHEN, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE COMMANDANT OF HER MARINE UNIT CAME TO VISIT HER.
THE ACTIVE COMMANDANT CAME AND TOLD HER AND GAVE HER PERMISSION.
SHE COULD ACTUALLY SPEAK ABOUT IT.
SHE KEPT THAT SECRET FOR 50 YEARS FROM EVERY SINGLE PERSON, BECAUSE THAT WAS HER ORDERS.
AND SHE'S BURIED HERE IN BAGHDAD CEMETERY.
UM, SO KEEPING ALONG THE LINES OF WHEN WORLD WAR TWO, WE GO TO PEARL HARBOR AND THE NEXT SLIDE I HAVE, OH, HERE'S SOME MORE, OH, EXCUSE ME.
THESE ARE VIETNAM AND KOREA WAR, UH, ERA VETERANS, ALL OF THEM ARE BURIED AT BAGHDAD.
UM, THE GENTLEMEN ON THE UPPER LEFT, HE IS STILL ALIVE, BUT EVERYONE ELSE HAS PASSED AWAY.
UH, THE GENTLEMAN ON THE FAR, RIGHT, HE WAS A, UM, HELICOPTER PILOT IN VIETNAM.
HE WAS IN THE ARMY FOR 25 YEARS.
AND THEN HE CAME BACK HERE TO THE STATES AND HE DID, HE WAS IN THE FOREST SERVICE, FLYING THE HELICOPTERS TO PUT THE, UM, FOREST FIRES OUT IN THE WEST AND THE WESTERN UNITED STATES.
AND THEN WE GET TO HORACE HAMILTON.
HORACE HAMILTON WAS BORN HERE IN 1924.
HE GRADUATED IN 19 41, 1 OF 27 STUDENTS.
UM, HE HAD A HARD TIME JOINING THE NAVY BECAUSE HE WAS SO SMALL.
AND, UM, THE NAVY RECRUITER GAVE HIM A DIME, TOLD HIM TO GO BUY A DIME'S WORTH OF BANANAS, EAT THEM AND DRINK AS MUCH WATER AS YOU CAN, AND THEN COME BACK AND WE'LL WAIT YOU.
HE STAYED IN THE NAVY UNTIL THE VERY, VERY END HIS SHIP THAT HE WAS ON WAS A, UM, SUPPORT SHIP.
AND HE STAYED IN THERE UNTIL THEY BROUGHT BACK EVERY MAN FROM THE PACIFIC.
SO HE WAS ACTUALLY IN, IN THE MILITARY FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS, UH, TO TELL YOU WHAT TYPE OF RARE AIR THIS IS.
WE HA WE DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY MEN WERE IN PEARL HARBOR BECAUSE IT WAS A SUNDAY.
AND IT WAS, UH, UH, THEY WERE ON LEAVE.
IT WAS PRIOR TO THE WAR, THE ACTION THERE CAUSED US TO ENTER THE WAR.
UM, AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MEN WERE ACTUALLY ON LEAVE, BUT ON THEIR SHIP AND, AND THEN ON IN TOWN AND THEN EVERYTHING, IT WAS AN HOUR AND A HALF, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE BATTLE, UH, OH, EXCUSE ME.
SO OF THAT, OF THE SURVIVORS WE LOSE TODAY, WE HAVE 238,457 WORLD WAR II VETERANS ALIVE.
IF YOU DO THE MATH FROM ALL OF THAT, WE HAVE TWO SURVIVORS FROM THE ARIZONA STILL ALIVE.
IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN AND YOU DO THE MATH, WE HAVE BETWEEN 340 AND 500 PEARL HARBOR SURVIVORS, ONE OF THOSE IS A LEANDER CITIZEN.
[10. Staff Reports Monthly water update]
10 STAFF REPORTS, MONTHLY WATER UPDATE WITH PUBLIC WORKS, DIRECTOR ELLISON.GOOD EVENING DIRECTOR, NEVER AS INTERESTING AS THE ONE BEFORE ME, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
UM, THIS IS THE MONTHLY REPORT FOR THE WATER USE FOR OCTOBER.
AND THEN I ALSO HAVE SOME UPDATES ON CIP PROJECTS ON THE ACTIVE WATER CIP PROJECTS.
UH, ALWAYS START WITH THE LCRA GRAPH.
UM, THEY KIND OF UPDATED A LITTLE BIT.
THEY HAVE NOW, UM, THEY'RE MANAGED LEVELS, UM, KIND OF A FALL IN A SUMMER, OR LIKE A WINTER AND A SUMMER, UM, GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN 2000001.9, 5 MILLION.
SO CURRENTLY, OR AS OF, UM, NOVEMBER 1ST, THE LAKE COMBINED STORAGE WAS 79%.
THEY ALWAYS PROJECT FORWARD SIX MONTHS AND KIND OF KEEP US IN THAT 70 TO 83% RATE RANGE, DEPENDING ON THE RAIN.
AND THEN IF YOU LOOK BACK A YEAR, WE WERE AT ABOUT 70% FULL.
SO IT KIND OF STAYED STEADY, JUMPED WITH ALL THOSE RAINS WE HAD IN THE SPRING.
AND THEN WE'VE KIND OF, KIND OF HUNG OUT HERE.
SO THESE ARE PRETTY, PRETTY CONSISTENT, REALLY, DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER.
AND THEN THIS GRAPH GIVES US THE PRODUCTION OF OUR TWO PLANTS.
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WE DID ABOUT 313 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER USAGE LAST MONTH IN OCTOBER.UM, IF YOU LOOK BACK, WE KIND OF HAD A WEIRD JUMP IN OCTOBER LAST YEAR, THIS ONE'S TRENDED MORE NORMAL, UM, DOWN AS WE WOULD EXPECT, UM, KIND OF LIKE THE PAST, YOU KNOW, IT JUST COMES DOWN AND INTO THE WINTER MONTHS.
IT WAS ABOUT A 60 40 SPLIT AS WHAT IS TYPICAL.
UM, SANDY CREEK DID 188 MILLION WHILE BCRA WAS 125 MILLION GALLONS.
UM, IT'S PRETTY, LIKE I SAID, PRETTY TYPICAL, BUT ONCE WE GET THESE TWO CIP PROJECTS ONLINE, WE'LL START TO SEE THAT SHIFT AND WE'LL START TAKING MORE BCR AWAY.
IT DON'T BE MORE OF A, OF AN EQUAL OR EVEN MORE BCRA WE WILL WATER THAN A SANDY CREEK WATER.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THE DAY TO DAY.
UM, AS I MENTIONED LAST OCTOBER, IT WAS, UH, I WOULD SAY IT'S A LITTLE HOTTER, BUT IT REALLY WASN'T, BUT THE WATER USAGE WAS QUITE A BIT.
I LOOKED AT THE TEMPERATURES IN LAST OCTOBER, THE AVERAGE TEMPERATURE WAS 83 AND THIS OCTOBER WAS 84.
SO IT WAS ACTUALLY HOTTER, BUT WE HAD ALMOST SIX INCHES OF RAIN THIS OCTOBER.
SO AGAIN, I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT HOW RAIN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF KEEPS US WITHIN THAT RANGE.
UM, SO WE DID ABOUT 40 MILLION GALLONS, LESS, UM, THIS OCTOBER WHEN COMPARED TO LAST OCTOBER, KIND OF STAYED IN THAT EIGHT TO 10 MILLION.
AND WE AVERAGED ABOUT 10 I'M SORRY, EIGHT TO 12, UM, AVERAGING ABOUT 10 MILLION GALLONS A DAY LAST MONTH.
UH, THIS IS JUST THE USAGE, UM, FOR THIS YEAR COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, UM, STARTING IN MAY RUNNING THROUGH THE END OF OCTOBER, UM, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE TREND LINE IS, IS KINDA KIND OF STARTING TO STABILIZE AND, AND WE WOULD EXPECT IT TO, TO GO DOWN NOW THAT WE'RE ENTERING THE COOLER MONTHS AND LESS, LESS USAGE LAST MONTH, IT WAS, UM, IT KIND OF CROSSED THIS, UM, SANDY CREEK MAX LINE.
SO IT'S TRENDING DOWN AS WE WOULD EXPECT.
UM, WE'RE STILL, AGAIN, FALLEN BELOW, CAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE RED IS ALL THE, UH, 2020.
SO WE'RE STARTING TO KIND OF CONTINUING TO FALL BELOW THAT USAGE FROM LAST YEAR.
UM, JUST ANOTHER WAY TO DISPLAY.
UM, I TOLD YOU WE HAD THAT KIND OF WEIRD SPIKE.
THE BLUE LINE IS 2020, KIND OF JUMPED UP IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, BUT WE'RE SEEING THAT TREND DOWN.
SO WE'RE IN A RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF WHERE OCTOBER WAS LAST YEAR AND THEN A THREE-YEAR AVERAGE AT ABOUT 12 MILLION.
I THINK I SKIPPED A GRAPH ON HERE, NOT 12 MILLION, UM, 313 MILLION, UH, PEAK DAY.
WE SAW LOWER PEAK DAY THAN LAST YEAR.
I THINK WE WERE AT ABOUT 14 MILLION LAST YEAR.
UM, OUR PEAK FOR OCTOBER THIS YEAR WAS 12, WHICH IS MUCH MORE CONSISTENT WITH OUR THREE-YEAR AVERAGE, SOME WATER UPDATES, SOME OF THE MORE ACTIVE PROJECTS, THE BAGHDAD, NEW, NEW HOPE WE CALL IT THE INTERCONNECT.
IT'S ACTUALLY A THIRD TAKE POINT FOR, UM, OUR BCRF WATER.
SO THEY FILLED IN DISINFECTED THAT LINE, UM, AND IT PASSED ALL TESTING NOVEMBER 8TH.
SO THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON ELECTRICAL AND SCADA CONNECTIONS AND THEY ESTIMATE IT TO BE ONLINE NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER 30TH.
AND THEN THE SAN GABRIEL LINE, THEY ACTUALLY FLUSHED AND SAMPLED IT TODAY.
SO THEY SENT THE SAMPLES TO THE LAB.
UM, IF THEY PASS, THEY WOULD, UM, ANTICIPATE THE FINAL CONNECTION ON MONDAY TO OUR SYSTEM.
AND THEN SANDY CREEK, WE HAD A MEETING ON YESTERDAY AT THE SANDY CREEK PLANT.
UM, JUST A PROGRESS MEETING TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT.
THEY'RE SLOW RUNNING THROUGH A LOT OF THE OPTIONS.
THIS IS KIND OF THE LATEST AND GREATEST SITE LAYOUT THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY.
UM, THEY'RE EXPECTING THE TECH MEMO, THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY AND THEN A HUNDRED PERCENT CONSTRUCTION JARRING DRAWINGS ABOUT AUGUST 10TH.
AND THEN SOME OF THE MORE, UM, I DON'T WANT TO SAY INACTIVE WITH THE ONES THAT ARE JUST GETTING STARTED.
UH, WATER CIP PROJECTS ARE THE SAN GABRIEL ELEVATED THAT ONE.
UM, THE SECOND SET OF PLANS OR THE SECOND AFTER THE FIRST REVIEW, THE SECOND, UM, SUBMITTAL WAS MADE JUST THIS PAST TUESDAY.
UM, THERE'S NO REAL UPDATE ON THE TREVISO.
WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIND A SITE WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THE LANDOWNERS THAT THAT ENGINEERING HAS REACHED OUT TO.
UM, W 74 IS THE TERMINUS PUMP STATION THAT ONE'S ON AGENDA TONIGHT AND THEN THE WATER, UM, ARMR AMI.
UM, THE DRAFT IS BEEN REVIEWED BY ALL THE CITY STAFF AND THEY'RE EXPECTING IT TO BE SUBMITTED.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL ISSUE IT IN DECEMBER AND SUBMIT ON JANUARY 7TH.
SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, COUNSEL? THANK YOU.
VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT LOTS OF MONEY.
[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.UH, COUNCIL WILL BE CONSIDERING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS,
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11 3 29.THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM, MOTION TO APPROVE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[30. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Comprehensive Plan Amendment Case 21-CPA-007 to amend the Transportation Master Plan to allow an alternate alignment of CR 280 and consider action regarding Subdivision Case 21-CP-010 to adopt the Hilltop Ranch Concept Plan on one parcel of land approximately 105.064 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R560473; generally located southeast of CR 280 and Council Springs Pass, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Comprehensive Plan Amendment Case 21-CPA-007 as described above. Discuss and consider action regarding Subdivision Case 21-CP-010 as described above. ]
30, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT CASE 21, CPA 0 0 7.TO AMEND THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN TO ALLOW AN ALTERNATE ALIGNMENT OF CR TWO 80 AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING SUBDIVISION CASE 21, CP 0 1 0 TO ADOPT THE HILLTOP RANCH CONCEPT PLAN ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 105.064 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, GRIFFIN, GOOD EVENINGS.
THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE HILLTOP PROJECT.
UM, THIS IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF, UM, TWO 80 AND THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF LAKELINE.
UM, THIS PROJECT INCLUDES 84 SINGLE FAMILY, LOTS.
UM, THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ZONING IN PLACE FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS AND THEY ARE, UM, PROPOSING I'M SORRY.
THEY ARE PROPOSING SEVERAL, UM, LOTS THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROJECT AND OUR CURRENT, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN COMPONENT OF IT INCLUDES A ROAD THAT GOES THROUGH THE CENTER.
UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS EXHIBIT, IT SHOWS, UM, WHAT THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN INCLUDES TODAY AND HOW THEY'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE IT.
THIS, UM, BLACK ROADWAY RIGHT HERE THAT IS THE CURRENT PATH OF THE ROAD AS PROJECTED BY THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CHANGE IT, TO LINE UP WITH THE EXISTING CR TWO 80 AND THEN COME BACK AND CONNECT TO NAMELESS ROAD.
UM, THIS WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DURING THEIR OCTOBER 28TH MEETING.
AND THEY HAD, UM, QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS, UH, RELATING TO TRANSPORTATION THAT, UM, WERE CHALLENGING FOR PLANNING TO ANSWER WITHOUT, UH, ENGINEERING'S ASSISTANCE.
UM, THEY, THEY RECEIVED A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, ADDING TRAFFIC TO TWO 80, UM, THE IMPROVEMENTS AND DRAINAGE.
AND THERE ARE QUITE A FEW TOPICS.
UM, WE DID GO BACK AND TALK TO OUR CONSULTANT THAT DID THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, AS WELL AS THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHY THIS ROAD IS NEEDED.
UM, IT IS ANOTHER EAST-WEST CONNECTION AND THE CURRENT LOCATION ALONG NAMELESS, UM, IT'S SPACED APPROPRIATELY.
UM, YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THOSE CONNECTIONS ON NAMELESS ROAD TOO CLOSE TOGETHER.
ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS WAS TO REMOVE IT COMPLETELY OR MOVE IT TO WHERE IT CONNECTED CLOSER TO SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY.
UM, THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT DID, UM, LOOK AT THIS AREA AND THIS WAS THE BEST ALIGNMENT.
UM, IF WE, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CR TWO 80 AT THE CURRENT LOCATION, THAT MEANS THAT THIS DEVELOPER, AS WELL AS THE ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE HAS TO PARTICIPATE IN DEDICATING RIGHT-OF-WAY AND IMPROVING THAT ROAD AS WELL.
SO IF IT DOES FOLLOW THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, WE LOSE OUT ON THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO I THINK IT'LL ALSO HELP, UM, IN THAT REGARD, UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL DURING THEIR MEETING, UM, LAST WEEK.
AND, UH, I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
UM, NOBODY HAS SUBMITTED ANY CARDS.
WAS THERE ANYBODY THAT WAS JUST BECOME THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION REGARDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CASE 21, CPA 0 0 7 AS DESCRIBED MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE'LL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION REGARDING SUBDIVISION CASE 21, CPA 0 1 0 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY.
IS THERE A MOTION I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT? WELL, SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[31. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Concept Plan Case 21-TOD-CP-007 to adopt the LC Hero Way Concept Plan on two parcels of land approximately 21.86 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R031600 & R457677; generally located to the northwest of the intersection of Hero Way and Main Street, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Subdivision Case 21-TOD-CP-007 as described above.]
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CONCEPT PLAN CASE 21 T O D C P 0 0 7.TO ADOPT THE LC HEROIC CONCEPT PLAN ON TWO PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 21.86 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UM, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A CONCEPT PLAN LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF MAIN STREET AND HERO WAY.
UM, THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS, UM, A T SIX TRANSECTS ZONE.
UM, WITHIN THE SMART CODE, THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR ZONING IN PLACE TO DEVELOP A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT.
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THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.UM, WITH THE SMART CODE, IT HAS VERY SPECIFIC STANDARDS STANDARDS ABOUT HOW THE SUBDIVISIONS CREATED WITH REGARDS TO THE SIZE OF THE BLOCKS, THE ROAD NETWORK AND ALL OF THOSE, THOSE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS.
UM, AS PART OF THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT HAS INCLUDED A LIST OF WAIVERS.
UM, SEVERAL OF THE WAIVERS, UH, INVOLVE HOW THE PROJECT IS SET BACK FROM DIFFERENT ROADWAYS.
SO THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF, UM, OF OBSTACLES.
UM, THERE IS A MAXIMUM SETBACK THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING TO CHANGE TO 80 FEET BECAUSE THERE ARE TOPOGRAPHIC ISSUES AND, UM, THEY, THEY HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR A LOCATION FOR A DETENTION POND.
DETENTION PONDS ARE DIFFICULT TO, TO MOVE BECAUSE THEY ARE PLACED IN LOGICAL LOCATIONS WHERE THE, THE ACTUAL WATER DRAINS TOO.
SO, UM, THAT WAS ONE, ONE OF THEIR REQUESTS.
UM, THEY STARTED WITH THE REQUEST TO CREATE A PRIVATE STREET NETWORK.
UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REVIEWED THEIR, THAT REQUESTS AT A PREVIOUS MEETING.
AND, UM, A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS DID NOT SUPPORT PRIVATE STREETS.
UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE SMART CODE.
IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE PEDESTRIAN, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AND WALKABLE? AND THE CONCERN WAS IF YOU HAD A PRIVATE STREET, UH, THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO CLOSE IT, UM, WITHOUT CONSENT FROM THE CITY OR THEY COULD MEET HER IT, UM, THEY COULD DO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT DIDN'T REALLY SUPPORT THE INTENT OF THE SMART CODE.
SO THE COMMISSION DID ASK FOR THE APPLICANTS TO, UM, CONSIDER THAT ISSUE AND COME BACK, UM, WITH A PUBLIC STREET NETWORK.
UM, SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY CAME UP WITH A HYBRID.
UM, THE SMART CODE INCLUDES A COUPLE OF STREET SECTIONS WITHIN IT, AND THEY PROPOSED SOME CHANGES TO IT.
SO I'M ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS THEIR TYPE A STREET ON THE LEFT SIDE.
THAT'S THE SMART CODE SECTION ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THAT'S THEIR PROPOSAL.
UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REDUCE THE PLANTING STRIP.
UM, THAT WAS, UH, A DISCUSSION TOPIC WITH THE COMMISSION.
UM, I THINK THEY STARTED WITH THREE FEET.
THEY'VE MOVED IT TO FOUR FEET, WHICH IS PROBABLY MORE REASONABLE FOR A TREE.
UM, IT HAS PARKING ON BOTH SIDES AND 10 FOOT TRAVEL LANES.
UM, LET'S SEE IF I HAVE THE, CAN'T SEE IT ON THE EXHIBIT.
UM, BUT THERE IS, UH, A STREET HERE AND HERE AND UP HERE, THERE, THERE B SECTION'S GOING TO BE RIGHT HERE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A COMMERCIAL SECTION.
UM, SO THIS IS THE NEXT STREET SECTION THAT THEY'RE AMENDING THE SMART CODE, UM, ALLOWS FOR YOU TO HAVE, UH, THE DIAGONAL PARKING, UM, WITH THE, THE 10 FOOT TRAVEL LANES.
YOUR DIAGONAL PARKING HAS TO BE A BACK-END, UM, SECTION THAT'S A KIND OF, UH, CAN BE SEEN AS CHALLENGING FOR SOME DRIVERS.
SO WHAT THEY'VE PROPOSED IS A HYBRID SECTION THAT ALLOWS FOR THE HEAD-IN PARKING.
SO THEY HAD TO INCREASE THAT TRAVELING WITH, UM, TO, TO 12 FEET.
SO THERE'S MORE ROOM TO, TO BACK OUT.
UM, THEY'RE ONLY DOING IT ON ONE SIDE BECAUSE THEIR, THEIR PLAN IS TO ONLY HAVE A HERE'S THE ANGLE PARKING.
UM, SO THEY WOULD ONLY HAVE IT IN, IN THIS PORTION OF THE BLOCK.
SO THIS IS MAIN STREET RIGHT HERE, AND THIS WOULD BE MORE OF THEIR MIXED USE AREA WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE A COMMERCIAL ELEMENT.
SO IT WON'T HAVE, UM, UH, PEOPLE LIVING THERE.
UM, SO THE, THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION DID REVIEW THESE REQUESTS.
WE WENT OVER, UM, CHALLENGES THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT FELT THEY WOULD SEE WITH PUBLIC STREETS.
AND I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, TO, TO MAKE THEM FEEL BETTER ABOUT ALL OF THEM AND SOLVE THE ISSUES THE COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.
AND, UM, I DID SEND OUT AN EMAIL OR I GUESS DARAA DID PREVIOUSLY THAT SHOWED A RED LINE OF THE CHANGES THAT THEY MADE TO THE WAIVERS SINCE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
UM, AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
I'M LEAH
SO I'M HAPPY TO, TO JUST ANSWER QUESTIONS INSTEAD OF GIVING YOU PRETTY MUCH THE SAME PRESENTATION AGAIN, IF YOU'D LIKE, IT'S A HEARING, SO WE CAN'T HAVE BACK AND FORTH YET.
SO I SHOWED THERE'S NOTHING YOU WANT TO COVER.
I, UM, I THINK SHE COVERED IT PRETTY WELL.
LIKE I SAID, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE OUR CONSULTANT TEAM HERE TOO, WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.
UM, BUT I THINK I'LL JUST LET THAT SOUND SOUNDS GOOD.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY THAT SUBMITTED CARDS TO SPEAK.
WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, THEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION REGARDING CONCEPT PLAN CASE 21 T O D C P 0 0 7 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY COUNSEL.
I JUST, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT TOO
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ABOUT PLANNING AND ZONING.I WATCHED THE WHOLE THING, AND THIS WAS A, YOU GOT TO REALLY FIND DETAILS ABOUT THIS THING TOO.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO RE-LITIGATE THE THING THOUGH.
THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST CHANGE WAS THAT THE HEAD END PARKING VERSUS THE BACK END PARKING.
SO, AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD MOVE TO, TO HAVE THE HEAD IN PARKING.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? SO JUST CONFIRMING WHAT WE JUST SAW WAS CHANGED TO HEAD IN PARKING IS WHAT I'M READING HERE.
SO THAT'S A ONE-WAY STREET THAT WE SAW THAT ON.
IS THAT RIGHT? IT'S A TWO WAY STREET, BUT IT ONLY HAS HEAD IN PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF IT.
LET'S SEE IF THEY HAVE A, THIS IS THE EXHIBIT I WAS HOPING WAS IN MY PRESENTATION.
UM, BUT THIS, THIS PIECE WILL BE A TWO WAY, BUT THEY'LL BE HEADING JUST ON ONE SIDE OF IT.
SO THEY'LL BE SLANTED THE OTHER WAY FROM HOW THE, OF THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE CORRECTED.
SO THIS ONE DOES HAVE A SECOND REVIEW SINCE IT'S A SMART CODE ITEM, SO IT'LL BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA AS WELL.
AND WE'LL HAVE, SO HAVING PARKING ON ONE SIDE AND WHAT'S ON THE OTHER, IT WOULD JUST BE PARALLEL PARKING.
AND SO IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE NEED TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE WITH ALL OF THE CHANGES FROM PLANNING AND ZONING.
I WOULD SAY, UM, THE CHANGES FROM PLANNING AND ZONING, AS WELL AS THE AMENDED DOCUMENT THAT WE HAD PROVIDED Y'ALL EARLIER THIS WEEK.
AND THEN ALL OF THAT WILL BE IN THE NEXT AGENDA PACKET.
WE ACCEPT IT WITH, WELL THAT WE APPROVE IT WITH THE CHANGES FROM PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE AMENDED DOCUMENT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[32. Receive presentation and discuss the Comprehensive Facilities Plan prepared by Brown Reynolds Watford Architects, Inc.]
ITEM 32.RECEIVE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSS THE COMPREHENSIVE FACILITIES PLAN PREPARED BY BROWN REYNOLDS, WATFORD ARCHITECTS, INCORPORATED.
WHEN I STARTED HERE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, IT WAS IMPRESSED UPON ME REPEATEDLY ABOUT HOW THIS WAS THE FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE COUNTRY.
AND I WAS CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT HOW UNDERSTAFFED WE ALREADY WERE AND HOW OUR STAFF WAS GOING TO BE GROWING.
WE DEFINITELY NEEDED TO START PLANNING AHEAD FOR HOW WE WERE GOING TO HOUSE ALL THIS ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL WHEN TIME CAME ON.
AND SO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE CONTRACT WITH BROWN REYNOLDS WATFORD AND LAST MAY TO PROVIDE FOR A COMPREHENSIVE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN.
AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS MEETING WITH THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS AND VARIOUS STAFF.
THEY DID A PRESENTATION TO THE CITY STAFF JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO TO GO OVER THEIR DRAFT.
THEY INCORPORATED OUR COMMENTS.
AND NOW THEY'RE HERE TO GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE HAVE AFRAID, I DON'T REMEMBER EVERYBODY'S NAME.
RAY HOLIDAY IS THE PROJECT MANAGER.
HE'LL BE DOING THE PRESENTATION.
THANKS FOR I BROUGHT REINFORCEMENTS.
SO, UM, YEAH, AS ROSS MENTIONED, I'M RAY HOLIDAY WITH BRW ARCHITECTS PRINCIPAL IN CHARGE, AMANDA ROGERS, OUR PROJECT MANAGER, JASON TILA, PROJECT ARCHITECT, HEATHER WHITE, OUR PROJECT COORDINATOR.
UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A SUMMARY.
AS ROSS MENTIONED, WE, WE STARTED THIS ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO TO KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT ALL YOUR CITY FACILITIES AND DEPARTMENTS.
UM, WE MET WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS AND SOME OF THEIR, UH, COMMITTEES TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.
UM, IT'S NO SECRET THERE, YOU'RE ALL A BURSTING AT THE SEAMS AND NEED MORE SPACE.
UM, BUT HOW MUCH SPACE AND WHERE AND SO FORTH, WHERE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE COMING UP, UH, WE LOOKED AT COMPARISON CITIES TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE YOU GUYS ARE WITH THE, AND ELSEWHERE AROUND THE STATE, IN TERMS OF YOUR, YOUR CURRENT STAFF, YOUR CURRENT SIZE FACILITIES, AND COMPARING WITH OTHER CITIES TO SEE IF YOU'RE, UH, IF YOU'RE UP WITH THOSE NUMBERS AND IF NOT, HOW FAR OFF AND SO FORTH.
SO WE, WE DID SOME RESEARCH THERE AS WELL.
UM, TONIGHT WE'LL KIND OF REVIEW, UH, WE DID MAJORITY OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE CITY TO ANALYZE THEM, TO SEE WHAT THEIR DEFICIENCIES ARE AND THEN TO, UH, LOOK, TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO CORRECT THOSE IN TERMS OF EITHER ADDING ONTO THEM OR PROPOSING NEW FACILITIES OR A COMBINATION OF, UH, WE LOOKED AT YOUR POPULATION GROWTH.
AND WE LOOKED TO SEE, UM, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE FORECASTED TO SEE IS WHAT'S HOW BIG OF FACILITIES WOULD WE NEED IF YOU GUYS REACHED A POPULATION ABOUT 250,000, SOUNDS LIKE A LONG WAYS AWAY, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS GROWN QUITE A BIT HERE IN THE LAST DECADE AND, AND SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE WELL ON YOUR WAY OF REACHING THAT SOMETIME HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
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SO I'M GOING TO LET AMANDA KIND OF RUN THROUGH IT.AND IF YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS, JUST HOLLER AT US AGAIN, I HAVE AMANDA ROTTER, UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, WE TOOK A LOOK AT, UH, SIMILAR CITIES TO THE CITY OF LANDER AND, UM, SO THE DIFFERENT CITIES THAT WE LOOK AT, UM, UH, LEE LEANDER OF COURSE, IS LISTED, UH, FIRST.
AND, UH, WE WENT INTO YOUR STATISTICS AND YOUR POPULATIONS, UM, NEXT TO ALL THE OTHER ONES THAT WE LOOKED AT, UH, GEORGETOWN, UM, WE LOOKED AT COLLEGE STATION ROUND ROCK PARALLEL IN FRISCO AND PLANO.
AND, UH, WHAT THESE CITIES ALL HAVE IN COMMON IS THEY ARE ALL INCREASING IN POPULATION.
UM, GEORGETOWN OF COURSE, IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO Y'ALL AND THEY'RE GROWING FOR THE SAME REASONS.
AND MOST OF THESE ARE A PART OF A GREATER METROPLEX.
AND SO THAT'S, UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE REASONS THAT, UM, THEY'RE GROWING, BUT WE LOOKED AT PLANO, WHICH IS ABOUT 2 85 RIGHT NOW, UM, BECAUSE, UH, IT WAS KIND OF A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT RIGHT AROUND THAT 250,000 THAT WE WERE KIND OF TASKED TO LOOK AT FOR Y'ALL'S FUTURE GROWTH.
UM, SO JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT NUMBERS, UM, WE BROKE DOWN ALL OF THE STAFF THAT EACH CITY HAD, AND WE LOOKED AT EACH DEPARTMENT AND YOU CAN SEE EACH, UM, CITY AND THEIR DEPARTMENTS, UH, THERE'S UTILITIES, PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND WE DID REALIZE THAT NOT ALL CAESAR ARE THE EXACT SAME, ESPECIALLY WITH UTILITIES AND PROVIDE ELECTRIC SERVICES.
AND, UM, SO WE TRIED TO, UM, KIND OF DISSECT EVERYTHING SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT AS CLOSE TO APPLES, TO APPLES AS POSSIBLE.
UM, THIS IS THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THE REMAINING DEPARTMENTS.
AND YOU CAN BASICALLY SEE, UM, THE TOTALS AT THE BOTTOM AND LEANDER IS THE LOWEST BY FAR, FOR SURE.
UM, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, AND THIS IS JUST BREAKING UP THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS BY RATIO OF WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THEIR CITY STAFF IS IN EACH DEPARTMENT.
AND AGAIN, AT THE BOTTOM THERE'S DETAILED NUMBERS.
SO, UH, THIS, UH, THIS GRAPH IS PRETTY IMPACTFUL.
THIS IS, UM, LOOKING AT THE CITY'S CITY EMPLOYEES PER RESIDENT, AND YOU CAN SEE LEANDER, UM, BEING THE FIRST, THE FIRST COLUMN.
I'M NOT REALLY GOOD AT WORK IN THIS.
AND, UM, THEY, RED LINE IS THE AVERAGE AMONGST ALL THE CITIES AND LEANDER IS AT THE BOTTOM AT ABOUT SEVEN EMPLOYEES PER THOUSAND RESIDENTS.
SO IF, UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT WE TOOK A LOOK AT FOR ALL OF THE CITIES STARTING OUT WITH THE CITY HALL, UH, RIGHT NEXT DOOR, JUST A COUPLE OF IMAGES OF THAT.
UH, IT WAS BUILT IN 1984 AND IT ORIGINALLY SHARED, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF CITY DEPARTMENTS IN THIS ONE BUILDING IT ACTUALLY HALF OF IT WAS, UH, FOR POLICE AND THE OTHER HALF WAS FOR CITY HALL.
AND SO Y'ALL HAVE DEFINITELY COME A LONG WAY SINCE IT WAS BUILT.
AND 1984, THERE WAS A RENOVATION IN 2016 FOR THE UTILITIES BILLING OFFICE, UM, WHICH IMPROVED THE FACILITY, BUT IT STILL DIDN'T GET TO, TO WHERE YOU NEED.
UM, THIS HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT THE NUMBERS OF WHAT YOU CURRENTLY NEED FOR YOUR CURRENT POPULATION.
SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, UM, AT THE BUILDING, UH, WE ADDED ON THIS BLUE PORTION OF THE BUILDING TO SHOW WHAT THAT BUILDING AND IT'S DEPARTMENTS CURRENTLY THAT ARE IN THERE, UH, THE SIZE THAT IT SHOULD BE AT WITH TODAY'S POPULATION.
AND AS WE GROW TO A POPULATION OF 165,000, YOU COULD SEE IT'S GROWING EVEN MORE INTO THAT PARK AREA IN THE BACK AND FOR THE GRAND TOTAL OF 250,000, UM, YOU CAN SEE IT MORE THAN DOUBLED THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING.
AND SO, UH, THE PAT BRYSON BUILDING THIS BUILDING IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE TOOK A LOOK AT.
UM, SO WE DID THE SAME, UM, EXERCISE FOR ALL OF YOUR BUILDINGS.
SO THIS IS WHAT YOUR CURRENT NEEDS ARE.
SO WE BASICALLY LOSE, LOSE A BUNCH OF PARKING, WHICH I KNOW Y'ALL ARE IN DIRE NEED OF, UM, AT 165,000.
UM, WE KNOCK OUT EMS FACILITY IN THE BACK, AND THEN WE
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TAKE UP JUST ABOUT THE WHOLE CITY BLOCK AND ALL OF YOUR PARKING IS GONE.UM, THIS HAS CITY HALL AND PAT BRYSON COMBINED THE DEPARTMENTS COMBINED, UM, AND THE BLOCK AT THE BOTTOM IS JUST TO SHOW A PARKING GARAGE.
IT'S ACTUALLY A THREE-STORY PARKING GARAGE FOR YOUR NEEDS AT 250,000.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF EXPANDING ON THIS SIDE OF SECRET HIS IDEA, AS YOU COULD TELL.
AND SO YOUR IDEAL SITE WOULD BE ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES FOR A CITY HALL, AND THIS INCLUDES DETENTION.
UM, SO DOING A THREE STORY OR ONE STORY BUILDING WOULD OBVIOUSLY CHANGE THAT GRAND TOTAL OF THE SITE NUMBER AND THEN PARKING, UM, A PARKING GARAGE AND THEN, UM, SURFACE PARKING FOR YOUR VISITORS AND SUCH.
BUT WE THINK COMBINING THE TWO, UM, BUILDING THE TWO DEPARTMENT OR ALL DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE TWO BUILDINGS, UM, IS JUST A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE IT WOULD HELP, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO WORK TOGETHER AND BE UNDER ONE ROOF.
UM, SO ANOTHER BUILDING WE LOOKED AT WITH CFR ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, IT SHARES A BUILDING WITH FIRE STATION NUMBER THREE, AND THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS THIS PART ON THE LEFT TO THE LEFT OF THE BAYS.
SO LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, UM, THIS FACILITY RIGHT HERE AS FAR ADMIN, UM, THIS, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS A FLEET STORAGE AND KIND OF A MAINTENANCE BUILDING.
THAT'S JUST KIND OF A TWO BAY GARAGE.
UH, THIS IS THE BURN TOWER FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND THIS BUILDING RIGHT HERE IS, UM, IT'S JUST AN OLD METAL BUILDING.
UM, BUT THEY MAINTAIN LOGISTICS AND THE QUARTERMASTER IN THAT.
AND ALSO, I KNOW THE CITY SECRETARY HAS, UM, HER LONG-TERM, UH, CONDITIONED STORAGE IN THAT FACILITY AS WELL.
AND THIS SECONDARY, LARGE BUILDING IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO THIS, UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE, UM, RECENT BUILDS BUILT IN 2010.
UM, SO LOOKING AT THEIR CURRENT NEEDS, WE WOULD NEED TO ADD ON A PRETTY GOOD WING IN THE BACK.
UM, IN THIS AGAIN, I'LL REMIND YOU, IT'S JUST FIRE ADMINISTRATION.
IT'S NOT INCLUDING THE FIRE STATION.
SO, UM, JUST THE NEEDS OF FIRE ADMIN.
UM, AND THEN WE ADD ON A GREAT DEAL FOR A POPULATION INCREASE OF 165,000, AND THEN EVEN MORE FOR YOUR 250,000.
SO THIS IS YOUR IDEAL SITE, SIMILAR TO THE LAST ONE IN, UH, YOUR BAR ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FOR A POPULATION OF 250,000 WOULD REQUIRE A LITTLE OVER 12 ACRES.
SO NEXT IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, THIS WAS BUILT IN 1996 AND IT WAS RENOVATED AND ADDED ONTO IN 2007 TO CREATE THE POLICE FACILITY.
SO LOOKING AT THEIR CURRENT NEEDS, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS REALLY, REALLY, TRULY BUSTING AT THE SEAMS. UM, THEY HAVE RENTED, UM, STORAGE UNITS AT THE PUBLIC STORAGE ACROSS THE STREET, AND JUST BECAUSE IN THAT THEY JUST CAN'T HOUSE ANYMORE, UM, STUFF PHYSICALLY.
AND SO, UM, AND ALSO, UM, FOR THEIR, UM, FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR BUDGET THAT JUST STARTED, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO ADD ANY STAFF MEMBERS DUE TO SPACE RESTRICTIONS.
UM, SO LOOKING AT 165,200 50,000, SO WITH THE COMBINATION OF THE FIRE AND POLICE, UM, THIS SITE NO LONGER WORKS FOR BOTH OF THEM.
SO YOUR IDEAL SITE FOR POLICE, UM, WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 11 AND A HALF ACRES.
AND, UM, THIS IS INCLUDING A SALLY PORT WITHHOLDING LIKE THEY CURRENTLY HAVE.
SO PUBLIC WORKS IS OUR, WAS OUR NEXT BUILDING THAT WE TOOK A LOOK AT.
UM, THERE ARE CURRENTLY, UM, TWO BUILDINGS ON THIS SITE AND THE, THIS BUILDING RIGHT HERE, IT HOUSES THEIR OFFICES AND THE BUILDING ACROSS THE WAY, UH, THIS ONE ACTUALLY IT'S OFFICES AND SHOP AREA.
AND THEN THIS ONE IS SHOP AND, UM, A LOT OF STORAGE AREA AND THERE, UM, TRAFFIC SIGN SHOP WHERE THEY, UH, CREATE ALL THE TRAFFIC SIGNS FOR THE CITY.
AND THEN ALL THAT YOU SEE UP TO THE NORTH IS JUST YARD SPACE, WHERE THEY DO HAVE EQUIPMENT.
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IS A, AN AREA FOR A FEELING STATION.UM, THERE'S A LOT OF FLEET VEHICLES AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE.
UH, EACH INDIVIDUAL WORKER BRINGS THEIR PERSONAL VEHICLE.
UM, AND THEN THEY CHANGE OUT INTO THEIR FLEET VEHICLE EVERY DAY.
AND SO APART, I KNOW PARKING IS GOING TO BE, UM, ADDED, UM, I GUESS SOON I KNOW FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
AND SO THIS IS THE PARKING THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDED, BUT TAKING A LOOK JUST AT THE BUILDING ITSELF, UM, ADDING ON, UM, TO MEET THEIR CURRENT NEEDS, WE JUST KIND OF LINKED TO THE TWO BUILDINGS AND THEN 165,200 50,000.
AND SO THE IDEAL SITE, WE DIDN'T INCLUDE YARD SPACE IN THAT LAST GRAPHIC, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED ABOUT, UH, 12 ACRES JUST FOR YARD SPACE.
UM, THE CITY, THE CITY'S GOING TO BE GROWING AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE MORE STREETS.
THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE UTILITIES.
AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO NEED MORE, MORE YARD SPACE FOR ALL OF THEIR EQUIPMENT.
AND SO NEXT IS A PARKS AND REC ADMIN BUILDING.
UM, WHAT'S A LOVELY LITTLE MURAL ON THE SIDE.
UM, IT IS A, UH, METAL BUILDING THAT WAS BUILT IN 1988.
UM, THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES WEREN'T MEANT TO HOUSE LONGTERM OFFICES, BUT THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY DOING PRETTY GOOD.
IT'S HOLDING UP PRETTY GOOD AT CONSIDERING IT'S OVER 30 YEARS OLD.
AND SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT, UM, THIS IS THEIR ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, AND THEN THE SMALLER BUILDINGS IN THE BACK ARE A STORAGE UNITS FOR ALL OF THEIR EQUIPMENT AND RECREATIONAL NEEDS.
SO TAKING A LOOK AT, UH, NEEDS FOR TODAY, WE'RE ADDING ON, UM, TO THE SIDE, UM, FOR 165,000 OF OUR 250,000.
SO THEIR IDEAL SITE WOULD BE ABOUT TWO ACRES, AND THIS IS TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION.
THE ADDITIONAL STORAGE THAT THEY'LL NEED, UH, NEXT WAS A PUBLIC LIBRARY.
THIS FACILITY WAS BUILT IN 2006, 2006.
AND, UM, IT IS ON A SITE WHICH ACTUALLY HAS A GREAT DEAL OF FREE SPACE, UM, TO THE NORTH OF IT.
AND, UM, THIS IS THE, THE MAIN LIBRARY BUILDING AND THEN, UH, CONNECTING THE, THE MAIN LIBRARY WITH THE COVERED WALKWAY IS AN ANNEX.
SO FOR THE CURRENT NEEDS, UM, WE WOULD ADD ON THAT AMOUNT OF SPACE FOR 165,000 ADDING ON MORE, AND THEN FOR 250,000, THIS ONE'S NOT AS DRASTIC AS, UM, THE OTHERS.
THEY, UM, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, UM, A GOOD DEAL OF SPACE, BUT THEY ARE LACKING, UH, STORAGE FOR BOOKS AND OFFICES.
THEY HAVE A WORK ROOM THAT THEY, UH, THAT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR A BREAK ROOM AND COPY ROOM, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THREE EMPLOYEES THAT THEIR OFFICES ARE IN THAT WORK ROOM.
UM, SO THE IDEAL SITE FOR THIS BUILDING WOULD BE ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF ACRES.
SO THE SITE THAT IT'S CURRENTLY ON, IT COULD ACTUALLY TAKE ON AN ADDITION.
SO THEN THE SENIOR CENTER, THIS IS A BUILDING THAT IS DESIGNED CURRENTLY, UM, BUT IT HAS NOT YET BEEN BUILT.
UM, BUT WE HAVE BEEN TASKED TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE CITY'S NEEDS AND THE, UM, FOR TODAY AND THE FUTURE GROWTH AND KIND OF, UH, THE IDEAL SITE SIZE FOR IT.
UM, THIS IS THE CURRENT SITE PLAN.
UH, THE DARKER GRAY IS THE BUILDING AND THE LIGHTER GRAY PORTION IS, UM, THE PARKING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED OR THAT IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED.
THE, THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY DESIGNED FOR ABOUT 12,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, SO THE CURRENT NEED, UM, IS PROBABLY A FACILITY OF ABOUT 18,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND THEN IN THE FUTURE, WE SEE NOT ONLY HAVING JUST ONE SENIOR CENTER FACILITY, BUT POSSIBLY HAVING, UH, AN ADDITIONAL SENIOR CENTER FACILITY TOO, ON ANOTHER PART OF TOWN THAT KIND OF BE, COULD BE, UM, EASIER ACCESSIBLE TO MORE PEOPLE.
AND THEN, UM, YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR, UH, TWO FACILITIES AT 18,000 SQUARE FEET FOR 200, A POPULATION OF 250,000.
SO IDEALLY THERE WOULD BE TWO, TWO AND A HALF ACRE SITES FOR YOUR SENIOR CENTERS.
SO IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN OPTIONS, WE CAME UP WITH, UH, FOUR OPTIONS.
UM, TWO OF WHICH, UH, OPTION ONE A AND ONE B ARE BOTH, UH, CREATING A MUNICIPAL CAMPUS FOR YOUR CITY FACILITIES
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OPTION A WOULD INCLUDE ALL THE FACILITIES, INCLUDING PUBLIC WORKS, POLICE, FIRE, UM, EVERYTHING, AND THEN OPTION ONE, B WOULD JUST HOUSE MORE OF THE, UM, CITY HALL, THE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES, PARKS, AND REC MORE OF THE OFFICE, UM, POSITIONS AND THE PUBLIC WORKS AND, UH, FIRE AND POLICE WOULD BE AT A SEPARATE FACILITY.UM, SO, AND THEN THE OPTION, NUMBER TWO, WE BROKE INTO A AND B.
AND SO THIS IS MORE OF AN OPTION TO DISTRIBUTE THE FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO THERE'S KIND OF TWO WAYS OF LOOKING AT IT, UM, KIND OF CREATING THIS GRAND CAMPUS OF BUILDINGS OR KIND OF COVERING MORE OF THE CITY BY DISTRIBUTING THE BUILDINGS.
SO HAVING KIND OF A PRESENCE OF YOUR CITY IN MORE LOCATIONS AROUND THE CITY.
SO OPTION ONE A IS THE LARGE MUNICIPAL CAMPUS.
UM, THIS, AGAIN, IT'S ALL OF THE BUILDINGS AND ONE LOCATION.
SO THE ACREAGE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THIS, UM, WOULD BE GRAND TOTAL OF ABOUT 79 TO 95 ACRES.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF FLUCTUATION DUE TO THE SITE RESTRAINTS, UM, AND ZONING AND WHATNOT.
UM, AND THEN YOUR ADDITIONAL, UH, SENIOR CENTER WOULD BE OFF CAMPUS AT A SEPARATE LOCATION REQUIRING ABOUT THREE TO FIVE ACRES.
UM, SO JUST, THIS IS JUST TAKING A LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN IN OUR BOOKLETS THAT WE'VE INCLUDED, WE'VE, UM, GONE THROUGH A VERY DETAILED PROGRAMMING.
AND SO WE ACTUALLY PROGRAMMED EVERY SINGLE ROOM IN YOUR CITY HALL AND YOUR FIRE POLICE, EVERYTHING, UM, AND PUT NUMBERS TO PAPER JUST TO KIND OF GET THESE GRAND TOTAL NUMBERS.
AND SO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THE CITY HALL WOULD REQUIRE WOULD BE ABOUT 98,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND THAT WOULD HOUSE 276 OCCUPANTS FOR THE POLICE.
IT WOULD BE ABOUT 108,000 SQUARE FEET AND, UM, HOUSE 427.
AND THEN, UM, YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE SECONDARY NUMBERS.
THE, THE FIRE WOULD BE ABOUT 39,000 SQUARE FEET AT 111 PEOPLE, AND THEN PUBLIC SAFETY, THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING.
SO THIS WOULD INCLUDE, UM, YOUR MAINTENANCE, YOUR BURN TOWERS, YOUR TRAINING.
AND THIS IS A BUILDING THAT POLICE AND FIRE CAN SHARE TO KIND OF BE THE MOST EFFICIENT AT, UM, SINCE THEY DO BOTH NEED TRAINING ROOMS, THEY BOTH NEED, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN SHARE ONE OF THE BURN BUILDINGS AS A SHOOT HOUSE.
AND SO IT'S TRYING TO BE THE MOST EFFICIENT THAT WE CAN BE.
AND SO THIS FACILITY WOULD BE ABOUT 48,000 SQUARE FEET, AND IT WOULD HAVE ABOUT EIGHT EMPLOYEES IN THERE.
UM, THIS WOULD BE MORE OR LESS OF JUST, UH, THEY WOULDN'T THERE WOULDN'T BE TOO MANY OFFICES IN HERE.
UM, AGAIN, YOU COULD SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WE INCLUDED AN OBSTACLE COURSE, DRIVING COURSE, FIRING RANGE, BURN TOWER MAINTENANCE, AND, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, THEN THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY WOULD BE ABOUT 50,000 SQUARE FEET, 150 PEOPLE, OR 151, AND PARKS AND REC WOULD BE ABOUT A 58,000 SQUARE FOOT.
OH, AND THIS IS, THIS IS COMBINING THE PUBLIC LIBRARY AND PARKS AND REC, UM, SINCE THEY'RE UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA.
SO IT WOULD BE ABOUT 58,000 SQUARE FEET, UM, WITH ABOUT 94 EMPLOYEES.
UM, SO COST, I KNOW YOU'RE ALL THINKING COST.
SO OPTION ONE, A, UM, THIS IS, UH, A BREAKDOWN.
THE TOP OF IT IS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
UM, WE DID COST PER SQUARE FOOT AND THEN GRAND TOTALS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE CITY HALL WOULD BE ABOUT 600 TO 650, UH, 600 TO $650 A SQUARE FOOT AND TOTALING ABOUT 59 TO 64 MILLION.
AND I DON'T WANT TO GO BORE YOU GOING THROUGH ALL THESE NUMBERS.
UM, BUT YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT EVERYTHING.
AND IN LAND ACQUISITION, IT HAS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE ANCHORAGE ANCHORAGE REQUIRED, UH, FOR EACH BUILDING AS WELL.
AND THEN, UM, LOOKING AT, SINCE WE'RE MOVING ALL OF THE BUILDINGS TO A CAMPUS, WHAT ARE THE PROCEEDS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET FROM YOUR EXISTING BILL? YES.
I'M SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOUR FLOW.
I'M JUST CURIOUS ON THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, WHERE YOU GOING HISTORICAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS WITH THE CURRENT HYPERINFLATION COSTS.
WE ARE GOING WITH CURRENT HYPERINFLATION COSTS.
GONE UP SINCE WE GOT OUR BOOKLETS JUST IN THE LAST YEAR, ACTUALLY.
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WE'RE, WE'RE CONSTANTLY RUNNING, TRYING TO GET TO THE TARGET.UM, BUT YEAH, I'M GLAD YOU UNDERSTAND THAT LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS.
SO THESE ARE THE PROCEEDS THAT YOU WOULD GET FROM YOUR EXISTING FACILITIES.
IF YOU WERE TO SELL EVERYTHING OFF AND MOVE EVERYTHING TO A MUNICIPAL CAMPUS.
SO YOU COULD GET, UM, UP TO $23 MILLION FOR EVERYTHING.
AND THEN THE PROJECT SOFT COST, UM, WOULD BE, UH, FIXTURES, FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT.
AND, UM, THEN WE PUT A CONTINGENCY IN THERE AND THEN PROFESSIONAL FEES, WHICH WOULD BE ARCHITECTURE, ENGINEERING, FEES, MATERIAL, TESTING SURVEYS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, SO GRAND TOTAL FOR YOUR LARGE MUNICIPAL CAMPUS WILL BE ABOUT 329 MILLION TO 396 MILLION, A ONE B FOR YOUR SMALL CAMPUS.
UM, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY CAUSE WE, UM, UH, I'LL GO THROUGH THIS.
UM, SO LAND REQUIREMENT FOR THE SMALL CAMPUS, IT WOULD BE ABOUT 27 TO 35 ACRES JUST FOR THE SMALLER CAMPUS.
AND THEN, UM, HAVING THE OTHER FACILITIES YOU SEE LISTED, UM, WOULD BE SEPARATED.
THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 54 TO 64, BUT IT WOULD BE SPLIT AMONG THOSE FOUR SEPARATE ACTUALLY FIVE SEPARATE FACILITIES HAVING TWO SENIOR CENTERS.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE CITY HALL AND IT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, POLICE FIRE AND YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY PUBLIC WORKS, PUBLIC LIBRARY.
UM, SO COST FOR THIS OPTION, WE'RE DEALING WITH A SMALLER CAMPUS.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA BE, UM, A LITTLE, A LITTLE LOWER ON COST.
SO GRAND TOTAL 310 TO THREE $76 MILLION.
SO GOING TO THE DISTRIBUTION OPTIONS, UM, TO A, WE ARE, UM, DOING JUST A RENOVATION TO YOUR LIBRARY.
AS YOU COULD SAY, WE ARE GOING TO LOCATE YOUR PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT IN THIS BUILDING.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW CITY HALL, NEW PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, NEW SENIOR CENTER, NO FARM MAINTENANCE, NEW LIBRARY, AND YOUR FAR ADMIN PUBLIC SAFETY AND POLICE WOULD SHARE A CAMPUS.
UM, THE REASON THAT WE HAVE FIRE MAINTENANCE SPLIT OUT OF THIS OPTION IS BECAUSE THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION IS CURRENTLY HOUSED AT A STATION WHERE, UM, THEY'RE CURRENTLY RUNNING CALLS OUT OF THERE'S A NEED FOR A STATION IN THAT LOCATION.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO DEMOLISH THAT OR SELL IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S STILL A NEED FOR IT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE SILLY.
AND SO WHAT WE WERE, WE WOULD PROPOSE WOULD BE TO DEMOLISH THE POLICE FACILITY ON THAT SITE AND PUT A FIRE MAINTENANCE BUILDING AND ITS LOCATION.
SO HAVING NEW INDIVIDUAL LOT SIZES, UM, THESE ARE JUST KIND OF THE ANCHORAGES THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, AGAIN, THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT YOUR NEEDS WOULD BE.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE, UM, WHILE I'VE FLIPPED THROUGH THEM QUICKLY, JUST LET ME KNOW.
UM, BUT GETTING DOWN TO THE GRAND TOTAL OF EVERYTHING.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS PROCEEDS FROM EXISTING FACILITIES, CAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE SELLING OFF THE FIRE AND POLICE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE SELLING OFF PAT BRYSON.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO REUSE, REUSE SOME OF THAT.
UM, BUT GRAND TOTAL, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 293 TO 354 MILLION.
SO THE LAST OPTION TWO B IS, UM, HAVING EVERYTHING SEPARATE.
UM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR FIRE ADMIN IN YOUR MAINTENANCE ON THAT SITE.
AGAIN, UH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW LIBRARY.
UM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A POLICE STATION ON ITS OWN FACILITY.
UH, FIRE ADMIN AND PUBLIC SAFETY WOULD GET ITS, ITS UM, ITS OWN SITE AND UM, EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO LOCATE PARKS AND REC ADMIN IN THIS BUILDING AGAIN.
AND SO LOOKING AT THE ACREAGE IS REQUIRED, UM, AT THE TOP WOULD BE NEW INDIVIDUAL LOT SIZES AND THE BOTTOM SECTION WOULD BE REUSING AND REPURPOSING WHAT YOU HAVE.
THAT'S EXISTING AGAIN, THE BREAKDOWN OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGES AND THE PEOPLE NEEDED FOR YOUR 250,000 POPULATION.
UM, SO FOR THIS OPTION, UM, WE, UH, THERE'S A NEW DEVELOPMENT CALLED NORTH LINE THAT'S RIGHT UP THE ROAD THAT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE EXCITED ABOUT.
AND SO THE BLOCK P THAT WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED FOR A NEW CITY HALL BUILDING.
IT IS NOT SET IN STONE, BUT IT IS SOMETHING I KNOW THAT THE CITY IS CONSIDERING.
AND UM, SO ON THIS OPTION, THE CITY HALL WILL BE LOCATED AT NORTH LINE.
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THIS IS A, UH, AN EXAMPLE, UM, FROM ONE OF OUR SIMILAR CITIES OF A CITY HALL IN A MULTI-USE DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS FRISCO CITY HALL.AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SITE PLAN, UM, THIS SILVER ROOF BUILDING IS THEIR CITY HALL AND LIBRARY COMBINED, UH, JUST SOUTH OF THAT IS A PARKING GARAGE.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE FRONT OF IT, THERE'S THIS LARGE PLAZA THAT LEADS INTO THIS STREET OF IT'S A MULTI-USE DEVELOPMENT WITH RETAIL ON THE BOTTOM.
UM, THERE'S UM, A HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER THAT'S NOT FAR AWAY.
AND YOU COULD SEE THAT THE CITY HALL KIND OF ANCHORS THIS BOTTOM, UH, PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND AT THE OTHER END IS A, UM, SOCCER FACILITY, A PROFESSIONAL SOCCER FACILITY.
AND IT ALSO HOUSES THE NATIONAL SOCCER HALL OF FAME THERE.
SO YOU HAVE KIND OF THESE TWO GRAND ANCHOR POINTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT CITY HALL BEING ONE OF THEM.
AND WITH THAT GRAND PLAZA IN FRONT, YOU CAN SEE ON THIS IMAGE RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS A PICTURE FROM THAT STREET, LOOKING AT CITY HALL WITH THIS GRAND PLAZA THERE, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO HOLD EVENTS, LARGE EVENTS THERE, UM, AND PERFORMANCES AND THINGS THAT ARE FAMILY FRIENDLY THAT THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY CAN BE INVOLVED IN.
AND I THINK THAT REALLY PLAYS WELL WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND IT KIND OF GIVES PEOPLE A REASON TO COME OUT THERE.
UM, THIS IS ONE THAT Y'ALL MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE FAMILIAR WITH AND BK IS JUST DOWN THE ROAD.
UH, THEIR CITY HALL IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED ON THE SITE PLAN AND IT KIND OF ANCHORS THE WHOLE SITE IT'S AS THE CENTRAL CENTRAL BUILDING OF EVERYTHING.
AND SO THEN YOU HAVE YOUR MAIN ENTRANCE AND YOUR CIRCLE DRIVE, UM, IN THE IMAGE BELOW THAT YOU COULD SEE IN THE BUILDING, JUST TO THE BACK OF THAT CIRCLE DRIVE, IT'S THE CITY HALL AND THEIR FACILITY ACTUALLY HOUSES THEIR LIBRARY AS WELL.
AND THE, FOR THE REST OF THE FACILITY, IT'S A MULTI-USE RESIDENTIAL, UM, OFFICES.
UM, YOU NAME IT, THEY'VE GOT IT.
AND, UM, ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A CITY HALL AT A MULTI-USE DEVELOPMENT IS IN SUGARLAND.
UM, I THINK THEY REALLY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB AT, UM, CREATING THIS OPEN PLAZA.
AGAIN, THEY HAVE ACTUALLY CREATED AS SOMEWHAT OF A STAGE RIGHT AT THE ENTRY OF CITY HALL.
UM, SO AT NIGHT THEY CAN HAVE PERFORMANCES THERE AND IT'S A GREAT AREA, UM, FOR AGAIN, FAMILY-FRIENDLY EVENTS AND THIS IS A PART OF A MULTI-USE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS YOU COULD SEE ON THE OTHER SIDE IMAGES.
SO, UM, AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER WITH THIS OPTION, WE WOULD KEEP THE FIRE STATION AND ITS SAME LOCATION.
AND, UM WE WOULD PROPOSE GETTING RID OF, UM, THE LOGISTICS BUILDING IN THE BACK.
UM, AND THEN UTILIZING THIS SITE FOR A MAINTENANCE FACILITY FOR FIRE, UM, FOR THE LIBRARY, WE PROPOSE KEEPING THE LIBRARY.
UM, ONE OPTION THAT, UM, Y'ALL CAN ENTERTAIN IS, UM, POSSIBLY.
SO IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, PARKS AND REC WOULD MOVE OVER TO THE PAT PRICING BUILDING.
SO IF THEY'RE HOUSED IN THE OFFICE AREA, THEN WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THIS COUNCIL CHAMBER ROOM? WELL, CURRENTLY IN THE ANNEX, THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT HAS A MULTI-USE ROOM SINCE LIBRARIES UNDER PARKS AND REC, AND THEY UTILIZE THAT ROOM, UM, A LOT.
AND I KNOW THAT THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EVENTS FOR READING EVENTS AND FOR TEENS AND KIDS, BUT I KNOW SHE'S NOT ABLE TO USE IT AS MUCH AS SHE WOULD LIKE TO JUST BECAUSE PARKS AND REC DO HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT EVENTS HELD THERE.
UH, ONE OF THE TIMES WE VISITED HER, THEY WERE ACTUALLY DOING COVID TESTING THERE, BUT, UM, SHE SAID, OFTENTIMES THEY'LL DO YOGA CLASSES IN DIFFERENT RECREATIONAL, UH, CLASSES IN THAT LOCATION.
AND SO FOR PHASE TWO, UM, SINCE YOU DO SINCE FOR A POPULATION OF 250,000, YOU WILL NEED MORE LIBRARY SPACE WHO WOULD PROPOSE, UM, ADDING ON A SECONDARY LIBRARY ON A DIFFERENT PART OF TOWN, MUCH LIKE THE SENIOR CENTER AND, UM, PUBLIC WORKS AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF YOUR IDEAL SITE.
UM, THE TOP LEFT IS SHOWING THE SITE THAT IT'S CURRENTLY ON IT CURRENTLY ONLY, UM, IS ON THIS LOW, UH, KIND OF VERTICAL PIECE RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN KIND OF THE LEG OF THE L IS OPEN LAND.
AND SO WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT, YOU MIGHT THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO EXPAND PUBLIC WORKS ONTO THAT SITE.
I KNOW THAT THE RESIDENTS OF RESIDENCES OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST NORTH OF IT, AREN'T TOO FOND OF HAVING A PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY IN THEIR BACKYARD.
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UM, AND ALSO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT OR THE NEEDS FOR YOUR FUTURE, Y'ALL ARE GONNA NEED 22 AND A HALF ACRES.AND THAT SITE'S ONLY ABOUT 10 AND A HALF ACRES.
SO PAT BRYSON, I KIND OF EXPLAINED, UM, THAT A LITTLE BIT AS I WAS GOING, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE LIBRARY.
SO, UM, YOUR PARKS AND REC, UH, ADMINISTRATION WHEN MOVE INTO THIS SPACE.
SO IF LIBRARY WERE TO TAKE OVER THEIR ANNEX AND KIND OF RE PURPOSE THAT FOR LIBRARY NEEDS ONLY THE NEW SPACE CAN BECOME THEIR MULTIPURPOSE ROOM.
THEY COULD DO A SLIGHT RENOVATION OF THIS SPACE AND THEY HAD THEIR YOGA CLASSES THERE.
UM, COVID TESTING, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER ELSE THE PARKS WOULD NEED.
AND AS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT GROWS, THEN THERE WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY BE ADDITIONAL REC FACILITIES IN TOWN.
AND SO THEN AS THE POPULATION GROWS, THEY COULD KIND OF MOVE INTO THIS SPACE WITH ANOTHER RENOVATION AND CREATE OFFICES INTO THIS SPACE.
SO WE UTILIZE THIS BUILDING AND THEN WHAT WILL WE DO WITH THE CITY HALL? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE MOVING TO NORTH LINE, UM, SAY HALL, DEFINITELY CAN'T FIT IN THIS, UM, BUILDING THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN.
AND SO WE WOULD PROPOSE DEMOLISHING CITY HALL AND PUTTING SOME SORT OF A PAVILION.
UM, WE KNOW THAT THIS AREA RIGHT HERE HOUSES, UH, UH, ONE OF YOUR ANNUAL FESTIVALS AND, UM, AND SO ADDING A PARK PAVILION AND HAVING THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT BE A PART OF THE PARK AND KIND OF FEELING INCLUDED IN ONE OF THEIR ELEMENTS, UM, I THINK WOULD BE GREAT FOR YOUR CITY.
SO LOOKING AT NUMBERS FOR THIS OPTION, UM, AGAIN, THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION LAND ACQUISITION, UM, PROCEEDS FROM EXISTING FACILITIES, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE QUITE AS MUCH, UM, KIND OF HOLDING ONTO MORE AND GRAND TOTAL.
THIS IS THE MOST BUDGET FRIENDLY AT 276,000 TO 333RD OR NOT THOUSAND MILLION, SORRY TO 330, 3 MILLION A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.
UM, SO JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROS AND CONS, UM, I DON'T WANT YOU ALL TO HAVE TO READ EVERYTHING, BUT, UM, JUST FOR A MAIN CAMPUS OPTION, I THINK, UM, THERE IS A BENEFIT OF HAVING EVERYTHING ON CAMPUS.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE COME OVER TO CITY HALL ON A DAILY BASIS FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND THAT WOULD CREATE IT.
IT WOULD MAKE A MUCH SIMPLER WAY OF DOING THAT.
AND IF YOU'RE ON A CAMPUS TYPE SETTING AND THEN HAVING, UM, THE, UM, BUILDINGS DISTRIBUTED, OF COURSE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT DISTANCE, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE BUDGET FRIENDLY.
AND AGAIN, YOU'RE KIND OF REACHING MORE OF THE CITY.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S, UM, KIND OF WHAT, WHAT FIELD DO YOU WANT YOUR, UH, MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS TO HAVE? UM, SO JUST TO DO A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE LAND REQUIREMENTS AND THE COST, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU, UM, I KIND OF BUZZED THROUGH THOSE REALLY FASTLY, UM, IT, THEY KIND OF GO FROM MOST EXPENSIVE TO MOST AFFORDABLE, UM, FOR THESE OPTIONS.
AND THEN THE LAND REQUIRED IS ALL SUMMER SUMMARIZED AS WELL.
UM, SO OUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, WE RECOMMEND DOING KIND OF A HYBRID.
UM, WE THINK THAT, UH, UTILIZING YOUR EXISTING FACILITY FACILITIES WOULD BE MORE ECONOMICAL OF COURSE.
AND, UM, WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE WITH DOING YOUR WOULD BE DOING YOUR, UH, FIRE STATION AND ADMIN, YOUR POLICE STATION AND YOUR PUBLIC FACILITY OR PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY.
UM, AND HAVING THAT ON A CAMPUS, THERE'S SO MUCH THAT THEY SHARE.
I KNOW THEY CURRENTLY SHARE DISPATCH AND THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER.
AND SO THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND SO MAINTAIN THAT, UM, ON THE SAME PROPERTY WOULD BE BENEFICIAL ALSO HAVING THE EOC, A SHARED EOC ON THE SITE WHERE, UM, THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, AN EMERGENCY TYPE FACILITY, HAVING THESE PERSONNEL THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE THERE, UM, ALL ON ONE SITE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
AND ALSO THEY COULD SHARE TRAINING FACILITIES LIKE I'D MENTIONED BEFORE, AND ALSO THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY AS WELL.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, THINGS THAT THEY COULD SHARE THAT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO DOING A LARGER PUBLIC SAFETY CAMPUS, IF YOU WILL, AND THEN HAVING ALL OF THE OTHER FACILITIES, UM, JUST KIND OF, UM, BEING AT THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL SITES.
SO MOVING FORWARD, WHAT'S NEXT.
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IS, UH, START MASTER PLANNING.WHAT IS THIS GONNA LOOK LIKE? UM, WE HAVE AN IDEA SINCE WE HAVE ALL THE PROGRAMMING NEEDS, WE HAVE ALL THE LAND REQUIREMENTS.
WE HAVE ALL OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGES, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT IT WOULD TAKE.
UM, AND SO MASTER PLANNING THIS INTO SOMETHING, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN DEVELOP INTO SOMETHING THAT YOU ACTUALLY BUILD, UM, PHASING, UM, HOW CAN WE PHASE THIS TO CONTROL COSTS? I KNOW THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT CHEAP.
IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE PHASE THIS? AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO IN THIS, THIS NEXT STEP AND ALSO ANALYZING INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, THIS, UH, ESPECIALLY A CAMPUS IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY FIBER.
I KNOW THERE'S A SECURE FIBER LINE THAT GOES FROM BUILDING TO BUILDING.
AND SO DOING A, UM, JUST LOOKING AT WHAT YOU HAVE AND WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO CREATE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, UTILITY STREETS, UH, FIBER, ESPECIALLY, UM, WOULD, UM, KIND OF HELP STEER YOU IN A DIRECTION.
UM, THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ONLY, SO THERE'S NO ACTION NEEDED ON IT.
OUR INTENT WAS TO GET THE TRAIN OF THOUGHT GOING, BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT IF WE DIDN'T START PLANNING SOON, WE WERE GOING TO BE RUNNING OUT OF SPACE.
THEN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, I MEAN, FOR THAT MATTER, THE WAY ROBIN KEEPS HIRING EMPLOYEE, SHE'S ABOUT SQUEEZE ENGINEERING OUT OF THE BUILDING.
NOW, EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT, PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
SORRY, JUST, UH, DISCUSSING THE NEEDS WITH EACH DEPARTMENT.
I THINK ALMOST EVERY, IN EVERY SINGLE BUILDING THAT WE ANALYZED, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THEY'VE ALL CREATED AN OFFICE OUT OF A CLOSET.
SO, UM, JUST TO PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS GOING TO BE A SUBJECT AT THE NEXT RETREAT RETREAT FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER.
I MEAN THE SIZE OF FACILITIES WE NEED, HOW MUCH LAND I CAN PRETTY WELL GUARANTEE.
WE CAN'T FIND A HUNDRED ACRES OF LAND ALL IN ONE SPOT IN THE CITY TO PUT A CAMPUS TOGETHER, BUT THE COST OF THE LAND, THE COST OF THE BUILDINGS, I KNOW ROBERT CAN GENERATE ALL KINDS OF DOLLARS, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME EFFORT TO GET THIS DONE, AND WE NEED TO START THINKING AHEAD AND PLANNING FORWARD.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE THE TOPIC AT OUR, OUR NEXT RETREAT.
UM, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING MORE PRESSING THAN THIS REALLY.
SO, UM, COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I THINK JUST COMMENT LIKE YOU WERE ASKING THAT, OR YOU WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S DIRECTION WE'RE GOING IN.
I THINK JUST, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND, UM, BRINGING PEOPLE LIKE FOR COMMUNICATION PURPOSES, BRINGING PEOPLE CLOSER TOGETHER FROM THE CITY, I THINK SHOULD BE A FOCUS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
HOWEVER, WE GET THAT DONE IN WHATEVER WAYS IS MOST FEASIBLE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO COMMUNICATE THAT, THAT I THINK WHATEVER WAY IT GETS AS MUCH OF THE CITY TOGETHER AS POSSIBLE, UM, RATHER THAN KIND OF TOO SPREAD OUT, EVEN IF IT'S THE LEAST EXPENSIVE WAY, IT'S NOT BY TOO MUCH BY THOSE NUMBERS.
IT'S, UH, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT MUCH MONEY, IT'S REALLY NOT THAT MUCH AT THAT POINT TO REALLY HAVE A CITY THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S JELLED IN TOGETHER.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, I AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, CHRIS, UM, HONOR UPON IT BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE OUT TOURING, THAT'S THE COMMENT THAT WE HEARD, MAN.
IT REALLY TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET FROM THIS BUILDING TO THAT BUILDING, BUT IT WOULD JUST MAKE EVERYTHING MORE COHESIVE.
AND I FELT LIKE STAFF COULD BE MORE PRODUCTIVE IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO SPEND SO MUCH TIME DRIVING AND GETTING FROM PLACE TO PLACE.
IF WE WERE IN A SPOT THAT WAS A LITTLE CLOSER AND MORE CONNECTED.
AND, UM, I KNOW MOST OF THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE T AFTER TALKING WITH GINA AS A PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, SHE COMES OVER HERE ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS.
UM, THE SAME WITH PEGGY, YOUR LIBRARY DIRECTOR, THEY, THEY COME HERE A LOT.
AND SO HAVING A CAMPUS WHERE THEY COULD JUST WALK OVER, UH, RATHER THAN DRIVING, I KNOW IT'S NOT FAR AWAY, BUT IT WOULD HELP YOU BE MORE EFFICIENT FOR SURE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US.
UH, WHEN WE GO INTO RETREAT FOR THIS ITEM TO SEE EXAMPLES OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I LOVE THE, THE EXAMPLES THAT YOU SHOWED OF SOME OTHER CITIES AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
UM, BUT SEEING SOME MORE EXAMPLES LIKE THAT AND HOW WE WOULD FINANCE, IF THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM, A BOND ISSUANCE OR IF WE'RE ABLE TO USE CERTAIN OTHER FUNDING OR WHATEVER, JUST KIND OF
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THE WHOLE PLAN, I THINK, IS THIS THE REPORTAND SO WHEN YOU'RE ASKING FOR MORE EXAMPLES, THERE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXAMPLES IN THERE.
SO IF YOU WANT A LITTLE BEDTIME READING, THAT'S JUST A QUESTION FOR YOU.
SO THE HYBRID OPTION, I DON'T SEE A PRICE TAG, IS THAT JUST, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
SO THAT WOULD BE A MORE ALONG THE RANGE OF PROBABLY OPTION ONE B UM, AND ACTION.
MA'AM AND THEN THE LIBRARY ON THAT HYBRID OPTION, THERE WOULD BE ONLY, THERE WOULD BE A NEW LIGHT, IT WOULD BE A NEW LIBRARY AND YOU WOULD MAINTAIN YOUR EXISTING LIBRARY AS WELL.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE AN INSTITUTIONAL LIBRARY FACILITY.
SO IMPROVING THE CURRENT LIBRARY AND THEN ADDING RIGHT IN, I THINK IT'S A LIBRARY COULD JUST, UM, KIND OF TAKE OVER THE ANNEX BUILDING AND, UM, KIND OF BLEED INTO THAT SPACE.
AND THEN I THINK THAT MIGHT BE ALL THAT THEY NEED UNTIL THEY NEED A NEW FACILITY.
AND JUST A COMMON QUESTION FOR STORAGE DOCUMENTS.
IS THERE A BEST PRACTICE THAT YOU GUYS SEE OTHER CITIES DOING? BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE PICTURES ON HERE AND THERE'S LIKE, EVERY DEPARTMENT IS STORING THEIR DOCUMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE FOLLOWING ALL THE RULES FIVE YEARS OR STORAGE.
UM, THIS, EACH DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS, UM, FOR UTILITIES BUILDING FOR UTILITY BUILDING, THEY NEED A SAFE IN THEIR STORAGE AREA CAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH DOLLARS.
UM, AND SO FOR POLICE, THEY OF COURSE NEED DIFFERENT STORAGE NEEDS FOR EVIDENCE, FOR FILES.
THEY HAVE TO KEEP FILES FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE, WHAT THE CASE IS.
AND SO HAVING, UM, JUST DEDICATED STORAGE THERE OUT OF THAT.
AND SO THEY'RE YOU THERE RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE USING OFFICES FOR THAT AND JUST KIND OF STACK AND STUFF UP.
AND THEN I CAN SEE ALL THE PICTURES.
I THINK ALL THE DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING THAT.
SO I COULD HAVE A PLAN, RIGHT.
EVEN, EVEN WITHIN THIS BUILDING, UM, THE STORAGE MEZZANINE WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO BE A STORAGE MEZZANINE AND THERE'S OFFICES CURRENTLY UP THERE RIGHT NOW.
SO HAVING DEDICATED STORAGE, WHETHER IT'S SECURE FOR POLICE OR EVEN FOR, UM, A SAFE FOR MONEY, UM, BUT JUST HAVING THAT DEDICATED SPACE IS IMPORTANT.
I THINK OUR CITY MANAGER HAD A COMMENT.
I THINK THE OTHER THING IS THAT WHAT THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION FOR, UH, FOR A NEW CITY HALL, THAT'S WHERE THE IMPORTANCE TOO, FOR THE COMMUNITY BUY-IN, THIS WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS, UH, TO, TO FINANCE THAT WE COULDN'T JUST ISSUE CEO'S ON A, ON A CITY HALL NOW, SO THAT THAT PIECE HAS CHANGED.
SO, AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE THAT, THAT THE TEAM AND THANK Y'ALL Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB AND IT'S, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THEY DON'T MAKE PHONE BOOKS ANYMORE, BUT ALL THOSE MADE UP FOR THAT.
BUT, UM, THAT LARGER QUESTION, IF CITY HALL ITSELF, WHERE TO GO AND IS THAT THE RIGHT PLACE TO PUT IT IN NORTH LINE.
AND IF IT DOES GO, WOULD IT BE AS IMPACTFUL EVEN FOR NORTH LINE, NOT ON THE PLAZA, CORRECT.
THAT WAS MY COMP, BECAUSE THAT, THAT IS ONE PIECE THAT IT PROBABLY WOULD, IF IT IS THERE, IT WOULD BE MOST IMPACTFUL ON THE PLAZA.
JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION IS IF IT'S NOT ON THE PLAZA, IT'S PROBABLY LESS IMPACTFUL, NOT JUST FOR US, BUT ALSO FOR THE DEVELOPER.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO ASK THE LARGER QUESTION, IS THAT THE BEST PLACE FOR IT TO BE CONSIDERING THE NEXT WERE THERE VERSUS SOMEWHERE ELSE TOO, AT THAT POINT, RIGHT.
IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE BANG FOR THE BUCK OVER, OVER THE LOCATION AND THE PRETTY PICTURES, AND THIS IS EXACTLY, AND THIS IS THE CENTERPIECE AND IT'S JUST NOT, IT WON'T BE THE CENTERPIECE IN CONCERN TO, CAUSE WHEN YOU'RE SHOWING THE BEE CAVE, I LOVE THAT.
BUT WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE IN HERE FOR NORTH LINE, DOESN'T IT? UM, IF IT WERE UP TO US, YES, WE WOULD CHOOSE SOMETHING THAT'S FROM THE DEPOSIT.
AND THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE GIVEN AS, UM, THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT IS, UM, BEING SAFE FOR.
UM, AND THAT ONE'S REALLY NOT UP TO US ON THAT.
THAT'S LIKE DEVELOPER, I GUESS, BUT WHILE YOU'RE THERE THOUGH, CAUSE WE DON'T, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE YOU AS MUCH OR AS LONG.
WHAT WAS YOUR NUMBER? WHAT WAS YOUR SUGGESTION? JUST CAUSE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE.
YOU'D HEARD THAT WE HAD, UM, AS FAR AS NORTHLINE GOES AND THAT'S THE, YEAH, THAT'S IT, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION BY, UM, RICK AND, UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION OF HAVING CITY HALL THERE.
UM, AND SO WE, WE TOOK A LOOK AT IT.
THEY, THEY GAVE US THE BLOCK THAT THEY WERE DEDICATING FOR CITY HALL AND WE REALLY STARTED TO LOOK AT IT AND ANALYZE, OKAY, WHAT, WHAT ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES DOING? WHAT ARE OTHER MULTIUSE DEVELOPERS DOING WITH THE CITY HALL INCLUDED? AND YOU COULD SEE THEY HAVE THIS GRAND PLAZA, THEY CREATE ALL OF THESE EVENTS.
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I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE YOUR FESTIVAL HERE.AND IT BEING RIGHT THERE, UM, CLOSE TO IT IS, IS SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL ENJOY.
IT'S IT, IT CREATES A GRAND PUBLIC APPEAL.
IT, IT CREATES, UM, AN IMAGE OF THE CITY AND, UM, HAVING THE CITY HALL LOCATED ON WHAT IS, UH, KIND OF DESIGNATED FOR THE CITY HALL RIGHT NOW IS NOT GOING TO BE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE SAME IMPACT AND APPEAL FOR THE PUBLIC.
TH THE WEATHER THING TO THINK ABOUT ON THAT IS THAT PLAZA SPACE IS A PUBLIC SPACE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OF COURSE THERE'S THE TOURIST COMPONENT IN THERE, BUT IT'S DESIGNATED AS PUBLIC SPACE.
AND THEN ALSO IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION WITH THE HOTEL MOTEL, UH, CONVENTION CENTER, STATE HOTEL, MOTEL CONVENTION CENTER, UH, FUNDS, IF A GRAND HOTEL CONVENTION CENTER WAS ALSO BUILT, LET'S SAY ON THE PLAZA, AS WELL AS ANOTHER ANCHOR, THEN YOU WOULD CREATE, JUST IMAGINE HOLIDAYS, THE TYPE OF SPACE.
IT WOULD HAVE A DOMAIN ASK FEEL, IMAGINE THE LIGHTS AND THE EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY ONE DISCUSSION VERSUS REALLY JUST BEING KIND OF IN ANOTHER OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S KIND OF A BACK ROW BY COMPARISON.
AND, UH, MR. NEW, CAN WE PLEASE GET THE SLIDESHOW SENT TO COUNCIL THAT WAS USED? THIS WAS FANTASTIC.
BUT THE QUICK REFERENCE WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE AN ELECTRONIC COPY OF THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION AND THE BOOK FOR THE COUNCIL.
SO YOU'RE QUITE AWARE OF THE AMOUNT OF READING THERE.
[33. Convene into Executive Session pursuant to Section 551.074, Personnel, and Section 551.071, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05, Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding the appointment of Planning & Zoning Commission Place 7. Reconvene into open session to take action as deemed appropriate in the City Council's discretion regarding appointment of Planning & Zoning Commission Place 7.]
ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, WE ONLY HAVE ONE MORE ACTION ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE WE GET INTO IT THOUGH.DOES ANYBODY NEED A BREAK? ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO POWER THROUGH, UM, ITEM 33, THE AGENDA IS LISTED AS CONVENIENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5, 5, 1 0.074 PERSONNEL AND SECTION 5 51 0.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND SECTION 1.05, TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING THE APPOINTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, PLEASE.
SEVEN PLANNING, ZONING COMMISSIONER, PLEASE.
SEVEN MARSHALL HEINZ IS FORMALLY REQUESTED THIS ITEM BE DISCUSSED IN OPEN SESSION.
UM, SO BEFORE WE GET INTO DISCUSSION, UM, COMMISSIONER, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FORMAT WILL BE.
I'M IF WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, I WOULD LIKE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSION.
I DON'T HAVE A FORMAL STATEMENT AT THIS POINT.
WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.
SO, UM, OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER PLACE SEVEN HAS BEEN WITH US FOR SOME TIME.
AND, UM, WHEN HE CAME UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT, WE HAD ALL HAD THE AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD, UH, APPOINT IN OUR PLACES AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER.
AND, UM, COMMISSIONER HINES CALLED ME UP AND, UM, AND SAID, PLEASE DO ME THE COURTESY OF, UM, LETTING ME KNOW IF YOU'RE WILLING TO REAPPOINT ME BEFORE I APPLY.
AND, UM, AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND I SAID, ABSOLUTELY, I LOVE THAT YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
I LOVE THAT YOU COME PREPARED.
I LOVE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HOLD, BUT I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH HOW OVERLY PASSIONATE YOU GET.
SOMETIMES THAT COMES OUT IN ALMOST AN AGGRESSION.
AND, UM, THIS WAS SHORTLY AFTER THERE WAS A MEETING WHERE THE COMMISSIONER HAD SAID, UM, TO A DEVELOPER, THIS WAS ONE OF THE WORST DEVELOPMENTS HE'S EVER SEEN.
AND I SAID, WE CAN'T HAVE COMMENTS LIKE THAT.
UM, WE NEED TO BE PROFESSIONAL.
AND I WAS ASSURED THAT THAT WAS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, WHICH GAVE ME THE CONFIDENCE TO, TO REAPPOINT.
AND, UM, JUST AFTER SWEARING IN, UM, THE COMMISSIONER WAS SORT OF HYPER AND BELLIGERENT THROUGHOUT THE MEETING.
UM, AND AT TIMES I THINK CROSSLINES, SO ON ITEM 17 AFTER THE VOTE WAS OVER AND EVERYBODY WAS GETTING READY FOR THE NEXT ITEM.
UM, THE COMMISSIONER LEANED IN AND SPOKE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMISSION TO A DEVELOPER AND THREATENED THAT NEXT TIME, IF THEY DIDN'T DO IMPROVE THE OUTREACH, WHICH WAS IN QUESTION THAT IT WOULD BE A VOTE TO DENY, NOT A VOTE TO DELAY.
UM, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE COMMISSION AT THAT POINT.
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AND THEN TOWARDS THE END OF THE EVENING, UM, WHEN THERE WAS DISCUSSION OVERSIZE OF PLANTERS, HE WENT AFTER ANOTHER COMMISSIONER AND CHANGED UP THE ARGUMENT AND SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF.SO NOW YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE BUILT ROADS FOR GROWN MEN WHO ARE WATCHING FOR TRAFFIC ONLY IN A WAY THAT WAS EXTREMELY DEROGATORY AND OUT OF LINE.
UM, AND THESE ARE NOT, NOT COMMENTS THAT I WANT OUT OF MY COMMISSIONER.
IT'S NOT BEHAVIOR THAT I WANT TO SEE OUT OF A COMMISSIONER.
UM, WHEN YOU SET UP HERE AS, AS A COMMISSIONER THAT FACES THE PUBLIC, YOUR REFLECTION OF YOUR COMMITTEE, YOU'RE A REFLECTION OF ME WHO PUT YOU THERE, AND YOU'RE A REFLECTION OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE, AND I ADORE YOU, BUT I WANT MORE PROFESSIONALISM.
AND EVEN AFTER BRINGING THESE TWO ISSUES TO YOUR ATTENTION LAST WEEK, YOU STILL HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO THAT COMMISSIONER AND APOLOGIZED FOR HOW YOU BEHAVE.
AND I'M JUST VERY DISAPPOINTED.
AND I FEEL THAT I MADE A MISTAKE IN PUTTING YOU BACK UP THERE SO WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION COUNCIL, BUT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION THAT, UM, THAT WE RELIEVE COMMISSIONER HINES OF HIS DUTY.
UH, I HAVE COMMENTS AND MINE IS GOING TO BE VERY SIMPLE, WHICH IS WE WENT, WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS A SITUATION WHERE EACH ONE OF US APPOINTS, WHOEVER WE WANT.
SO IF THIS IS YOUR, YOU MADE THE, YOU MADE THE DECISION TO PUT SOMEBODY THERE, THEN YOU COULD BRING IN SOMETHING UP TO US AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THIS WITH IT, IF IT'S WITHIN REASON WITH ALL OF US.
AND AS I, AS I SAY THAT, I THINK THAT ALL OF US SHOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY IF WE EVER GOT IT.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOUR GUYS' PERSONAL CONVERSATIONS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT STUFF ALL WENT DOWN.
UM, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY EASY FOR ME.
IT'S LIKE, IF THAT'S YOU, THIS IS YOUR APPOINTMENT.
UM, IF I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT, IF I'M, UH, YOU KNOW, NEXT, NEXT YEAR, IF I'M HAVING AN APPOINTMENT AND I WANT SOMEBODY THERE AND I WANT THE ABILITY TO SAY THAT, I THINK THAT I SHOWED THE ABILITY TO SAY THAT TOO.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA JUST KEEP IT THAT SIMPLE.
IS THERE A SECOND OR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK IF YOU HAD ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY IN RESPONSE TO THAT OR A CLARIFICATION.
I WAS PERSONALLY AT THAT MEETING AND THEN I'M LEFT TO WATCH AT HOME.
SO I DID SEE THE ENTIRE MEETING, UM, THAT NIGHT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF CLARIFICATION OR WHAT I SAW.
I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND, UH, TO THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS.
I, UM, I TAKE, UH, THOUGH I DON'T ARGUE WITH THE, UM, YOUR SPECIFIC RECOUNTING OF THOSE SITUATIONS.
I TAKE SOME, SOME ISSUE WITH THE WAY THAT THEY'RE BEING DESCRIBED.
UM, I HAVE STATED TO YOU SPECIFICALLY THAT THE FIRST ITEM THAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO FROM A PREVIOUS, UM, MEETING THAT IS A MISQUOTE THOUGH, I WILL CLARIFY THE QUOTE AND SAY THAT I STAND BY IT, WHICH IS THAT I, I SUGGESTED THAT A CASE THAT CAME BEFORE US WAS THE WORST ZONING CASE THAT WE HAVE EVER SEEN.
NOW THAT MAY SEEM LIKE A SMALL DIFFERENCE OR NOT.
I WILL SAY FOR MY PART THAT, UH, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT OUR ZONING, UH, REQUESTS MEET THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ZONING ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE.
AND QUITE SIMPLY PUT THAT CASE, DID EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE.
WE HAD A SUBURBAN STRIP MALL BEING REQUESTED IN A, AN AREA WHICH IS DESIGNED TO BE URBAN AND WALKABLE.
UM, AND SO WHILE I WOULD CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO APOLOGIZE IF, IF I HAD TOLD THE DEVELOPER THEIR PROJECT WAS THE WORST THING THAT I'D EVER SEEN, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT MEETING.
UH, SECONDLY, ABOUT THE LAST MEETING, UM, I, I WILL SPEAK FIRST TO THE COMMENT THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
I, I HAVE, UH, I HAVE A PROBLEM, UH, WITH THE IDEA THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE IMPASSIONED DISCUSSIONS OVER ISSUES, WHICH ARE RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT TO THE BROADER CITY AT LARGE.
AND THE CITY AT LARGE MEANS OF COURSE, ALL OF US, BUT EVERYONE WHO IS NOT AT THESE MEETINGS AND WHO ISN'T REPRESENTED HERE.
UM, I FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE QUOTE THAT YOU ARE TAKING IS QUITE OUT OF CONTEXT AS THE PARTICULAR COMMENT THAT I WAS RESPONDING TO WAS SPECIFICALLY, I'M A GROWN MAN.
I'M ABLE TO CROSS THE STREET SAFELY.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BUILD OUR STREET NETWORKS AND OUR SIDEWALKS AND OUR CITY AS A WHOLE, IN A WAY THAT IS NOT ONLY DESIGNED FOR GROWN MEN WHO KNOW TO LOOK FOR CARS, IT SHOULD ALSO BE A PLACE THAT IS BUILT FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CHILDREN AND PEOPLE WITH OTHER ABILITIES.
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AND SO THAT WAS MY ADMITTEDLY FLABBERGASTED RESPONSE TO WHAT I FELT WAS A, UH, SORT OF HOTTIE COMMENT THAT SAID, UH, I HOLD NO, UM, YOU KNOW, ILL INTENT FOR THAT COMMISSION MEMBER.WE HAVE LOADS OF VERY HEATED, PASSIONATE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT A GREAT MANY THINGS ON THE COMMISSION.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT ULTIMATELY ALMOST ALWAYS, UH, GETS US BACK TO A, UM, A BETTER OUTCOME, A BETTER RECOMMENDATION IN THE END, UM, ABOUT THE, THE THIRD ITEM THAT YOU REFERRED TO, I WILL APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
HERE'S WHAT I WILL SAY HAPPENED IN THAT THERE WAS, THERE WAS A SITUATION IN WHICH A COMMISSION MEMBER MADE A, UH, A MOTION, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A DELAY, EXCUSE ME, A DENIAL.
AND I ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION, IT TURNED OUT IT WAS, IT WAS A DELAY, WHICH I AGREED WITH.
I THOUGHT A DELAY WAS, WAS, WAS APPROPRIATE.
I WAS SUGGESTING, HEY, LISTEN, THIS IS IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE ASKED REPEATEDLY ON THE, UM, COMMISSION THAT APPLICANTS COMMUNICATE WITH RESIDENTS, I'VE SERVED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR OVER SIX YEARS.
AND THE NUMBER ONE PROBLEM THAT WE SEE IS APPLICANTS DO NOT COMMUNICATE WITH RESIDENTS.
AND THEN RESIDENTS GET A VERY NARROW VIEW OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
AND OFTENTIMES IF THE APPLICANTS HAD SIMPLY SPOKEN TO THE RESIDENTS, FIRST 90% OF THE ISSUES WOULD BE RESOLVED.
AND THE ONES THAT WEREN'T RESOLVED THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION GET RESOLVED THROUGH THE CONVERSATION AND A NEW, A NEW RECOMMENDATION BEING BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION, SOLVES ALMOST EVERYTHING WE HAVE MADE IT, UM, OUR MISSION ON THE COMMISSION TO ENSURE THAT THAT HAPPENS.
UM, WHAT I REGRET, WHAT I DO REGRET IS GIVING THE IMPRESSION THAT I WAS SPEAKING FOR THE, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION.
IT IS NOT MY JOB TO SPEAK FOR THE COMMISSION.
IT IS A JOB OF THE COMMISSION TO SPEAK FOR ITSELF THROUGH, UM, THROUGH ITS MOTIONS, THROUGH ITS ACTION.
UM, AND, AND FOR THAT, I DO APOLOGIZE.
UM, I WILL ADD ONE SMALL, A BIT OF A NUANCE TO THAT AS WELL, WHICH IS THAT I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A PROPENSITY FOR NOT PROVIDING DEVELOPERS.
UH, I SAY DEVELOPERS, BUT APPLICANTS IN GENERAL, SOMETIMES THE CLEAREST INDICATION OF WHAT, WHAT WE NEED TO GET TO.
UM, IT'S SOMETIMES I HEAR PEOPLE MAKE COMMENTS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, PLANNING COMMISSIONS AND PLANNING DEPARTMENTS AND CITY COUNCILS ARE HERE TO SAY NO.
AND OF COURSE, I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY UP HERE WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
AND I CERTAINLY DON'T AGREE WITH IT.
I BELIEVE THAT OUR JOB IS TO TRY AND SAY YES, WHENEVER IT, IT IS, UM, MOST BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
AND SO I TEND TO FIND THAT IT IS USEFUL TO LET APPLICANTS KNOW IF THEY DO NOT, UH, IF THEY ARE NOT MEETING THE INTENT, WHAT IT IS SPECIFICALLY THAT THEY NEED TO FIX.
SO IF I WERE TO CHANGE SOMETHING FROM THAT MEETING, WHAT I WOULD HAVE SAID TO THE APPLICANT WAS IF YOU DO NOT COMMUNICATE CLEARLY WITH THE, UH, RESIDENTS AS REQUESTED AND CAN SHOW THAT TO US NEXT TIME I WILL BE VOTING NO, UH, OR RATHER FOR DENIAL.
I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH AT THE TIME.
AND I WILL SAY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS HERE, JUST NOW, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.
I'VE ENJOYED IT FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS AND, UH, CARE A LOT ABOUT THIS PLACE.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, UM, I THINK THERE'S STILL AN ISSUE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING AFTER THE VOTE ANYWAY.
UM, AND GOING BACK TO THE, THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH, UH, THIS IS THE WORST ZONING CASE WE'VE SEEN, IT'S, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE THAT THOUGHT IT'S A PROBLEM IN HOW YOU CONVEY IT TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US.
UM, BECAUSE WE DO NEED MORE OF THAT CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM THAT YOU JUST REFERENCED, NOT THE, WELL, THIS IS TERRIBLE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S THE SERVICE OF WHAT WE DO.
SO I STILL HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
UM, SO MO MANY OF YOU NOW HAVE BEEN ATTENDING COUNCIL MEETINGS AND WATCHING PNC MEETINGS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
I'VE KNOWN MARSHALL FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND, UM, WHILE WE MAY DISAGREE ON A LOT OF THINGS, I'VE HAD THE UTMOST RESPECT, UH, FOR, FOR MARSHALL'S PASSION AND, UH, HIS, UH, HIS ABILITY TO, TO SEE BEYOND, UH, WELL, I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU'VE WATCHED HIM IN ACTION, YOU, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT HE MAY, HE MAY MAKE THE MEETINGS GO A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT HE'S, HE'S PASSIONATE.
AND HE, HE GOES, HE CARES AND THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, BUT I HAVE TO SAY, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW.
SO FOUR OF YOU VOTED TO REAPPOINT HIM.
DID YOU NOT THINK THAT YOU WERE GOING TO GET THE SAME THING THAT YOU'VE HAD FOR THE LAST TWO TERMS? AND, YEAH, SO, SO THAT'S JUST, UH, THAT'S JUST, I THINK THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE
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POINTED OUT THAT WHY WOULD YOU EXPECT HIM TO BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN HE'S BEEN? I MEAN, SO I JUST THINK THAT THAT, THAT DESERVES TO BE HEARD, UM, BECAUSE I, LIKE I SAID, WE MAY DISAGREE ON A LOT OF THINGS, BUT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT I THINK INTENT IS ONE THING.AND, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THE INTENTIONS WERE THERE THE WAY IT SOUNDS IT DOES NOT CHANGE WHAT HAPPENED.
I MEAN, I SAW IT TOO, AND I THOUGHT, OH, YOU CAN'T SAY THAT.
BUT, UM, BUT I, BUT I THINK THE INTENT BEHIND IT NEEDS TO BE, IT JUST DESERVES A COMMENT.
SO THAT THAT'S REALLY ALL I UNDERSTAND AND, AND COMPLETELY RESPECT THIS IS YOUR, YOUR APPOINTMENT.
AND, UM, HAVE NO, NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT IT ALSO WILL SET A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER COMMITTEES GOING FORWARD.
UM, SO JUST THINK ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE, I AGREE, AND THIS DOES COMPLY WITH OUR RECENT RULES OF PROCEDURE THAT WE ADOPTED.
UM, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF THE, UM, FIRST BULLET POINTS THERE THAT WERE VIOLATED THROUGHOUT THE MEETING.
UM, SO I'M FINE WITH SETTING THE PRECEDENT, UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE SHOULD EXPECT THAT OUR COMMISSIONERS ON ALL COMMISSIONS ARE TREATING PEOPLE WITH RESPECT THEIR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON THE PUBLIC AT ALL TIMES.
UM, THE COMMENT, UM, THAT MY VOTE HERE REFLECTS WHAT, UM, WE UNANIMOUSLY DECIDED AS A COUNCIL AT THE RETREAT THAT WE WOULD, UM, EACH POSITION WOULD GET TO NOMINATE WHO WE WANTED IN OUR PLANNING AND ZONING.
AND THEN WHETHER I AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT ARE SAID HERE TONIGHT, UM, I FEEL OBLIGATED THAT, UM, AS THE MAYOR AND THE PERSON THAT SELECTED THIS POSITION POSITION, THAT YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO NOMINATE WHO YOU WANT AND WHO TO REMOVE AS YOU WISH.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO, I, I JUST WILL SAY REGARDLESS.
I, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PASSION AND, AND YOUR SERVICE.
AND, UM, AND I'M SORRY THAT THIS, THIS COMES OUT THIS WAY, THAT ANYBODY THAT SERVES ANYBODY THAT, THAT VOLUNTEERS THEIR TIME, REGARDLESS OF IF WE AGREE OR DISAGREE SHOULD BE RESPECTED AND RESPECT EACH OTHER.
AND, AND I THINK THAT GOES ACROSS THE BOARD, NO MATTER WHAT, AND, AND IT, IT, IT SHOULD BE MUTUAL.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND, UM, JUST HOLD YOUR HEAD UP.
COUNCIL MEMBER PERFECTLY SAID 100%, SORRY, MARSHALL, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF REMOVAL PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE COMMISSIONER.
UM, I AM PREPARED TO, UM, NOMINATE INTO THAT POSITION.
SOMEBODY WHO WE HAVE ALREADY INTERVIEWED.
DID ANYBODY FEEL THE NEED TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THAT? OR ARE YOU OKAY WITH ME JUST NAMING, YOU'RE SAYING THAT SOMEBODY THAT WE ALREADY INTERVIEWED THEM.
WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO NOMINATE, UM, RICHARD CARPENTER FOR PLACED SEVEN SECONDS.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY I'LL COME BACK.
[34. Council Member Closing Statements.]
COUNCIL MEMBER, CLOSING COMMENTS, UH, PLACEMENT.UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT FOR THE, THE, UM, TOWN HALL, WHICH WE HAD MORE PEOPLE YOU'LL WORK ON THAT AND HAVE, HAVE THAT VERY HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
TO SO HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ANYONE WHO CELEBRATES NEXT WEEK AND ENJOY TIME WITH YOUR FAMILIES AND TOMORROW, I MEAN, SATURDAY, WE HAVE THE HARVEST FESTIVAL FOR LEANDER AT LAKEWOOD PARK.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS WILL GO OUT THERE AND, AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HINES FOR YOUR SERVICE.
I KNOW YOU WERE THE LONGEST STANDING COMMISSIONER, SO THANK YOU.
SO I THINK WE ALL HAVE A LOT TO BE THANKFUL FOR, BUT IT IS HARD LIKE IN THESE TIMES.
AND I HATE, I HATE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT BEING THANKFUL EVEN AFTER THE LAST CONVERSATION AND THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT, UM, I HAVE A FAMILY TO BE THANKFUL FOR.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, UM, I HAVE AN, UH, AMAZING OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN THIS CITY AND, UH, TO SERVE THE CITY AS WELL, TOO.
SO, UM, I JUST ENCOURAGE ALL OF US, EVEN IN TOUGH TIMES, EVEN WHEN UNCERTAIN TIMES TO FIND JOY, UH, SOMEHOW, UM, IN, IN, UH, IN ALL THAT'S GOING ON, LORI.
SO WE, WE JUST, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FIND JOY
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AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT.I JUST WANT, I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS A GREAT HOLIDAY AND FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT SOMEBODY WHO MAY NEED SUPPORT IN OUR COMMUNITY DURING THE HOLIDAY.
THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE FAMILY, UM, THAT THEY CAN SPEND THIS TIME WITH, AND IT COULD BE A DEPRESSING TIME OF THE YEAR.
SO I'M HOPING THAT WE ALL FIND THE ABILITY TO REACH OUT AND HELP SOMEBODY THAT'S RIGHT IN OUR COMMUNITY, HELP THEM FEEL WELCOMED AND FIND SOMETHING TO BE THANKFUL FOR THIS HOLIDAY SEASON.
AND THAT ACTUALLY JUST REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING.
UM, THIS PAST MONDAY I WENT ON A RIDE ALONG WITH CORPORAL GONZALES.
UM, AND I ASKED THEM AT ONE POINT, BECAUSE HEARING ON THE RADIO, THERE WERE LOTS OF, UM, CALLS FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES FOR DEPRESSION AND OVERDOSES.
AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON? AND HE SAYS, IT'S LIKE THIS EVERY DAY.
UM, SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER AND CHECK IN ON PEOPLE AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S DOING OKAY.
UM, THIS WEEK THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF HAPPENINGS.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH TO SEVEN 11 FOR, UM, THE LANDER AREA, SEVEN ELEVEN'S HAVE DONATED $4,100 TO OUR LITTLE LEAGUE AND SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION, AND THAT'S GOING TO GO A LONG WAY IN PROVIDING REC SPORTS TO KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN, UM, AS, UM, PLEASE TO COMMENTED THE HARVEST FESTIVAL IS THIS SATURDAY AT LAKEWOOD PARK.
IF YOU GO ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, YOU CAN REGISTER FOR THE 5K, IF YOU LIKE RUNNING, UM, OR THERE'S A FISHING DERBY FOR KIDS UNDER THE AGE OF 16 SCULPTURE GARDEN WILL ALSO BE ON DISPLAY.
SO YOU CAN GET, UM, A PEEK AT THE SCULPTURES THAT ARE COMING IN, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT FESTIVAL TO BE OUT THERE ALL DAY.
UM, SPECIAL, THANK YOU TONIGHT TO SUBWAY WHO PROVIDED DINNER FOR COUNCIL AND STAFF? UM, THANKS EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE HAVE A WONDERFUL HOLIDAY.
AND, UM, THAT'S ALL COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED AT 8:40 PM TONIGHT.