Dec 16, 2021 City Council Regular Meeting

TODAY IS TUESDAY, DECEMBER 16TH, 2021.

AND THE TIME IS 6:00 PM.

AND THIS IS THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL, UH, CITY

[2. Roll Call.]

SECRETARY CRABTREE.

WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CATHERINE AT BATTALION PARKER HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ESPEN, MAXI LAGUARDIA HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER, JASON SHARP HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER, NICOLE THOMPSON PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER, CHRIS SONIA MAYOR PRO TEM, BECKY ROSS HERE, MAYO CHRISTINE'S HERE.

MOVING ON

[3. Final presentation of transit demand analysis. ]

TO ITEM THREE FINAL PRESENTATION OF TRANSIT DEMAND ANALYSIS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR GOODMAN, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

HI, GOOD EVENING AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

UM, SO JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER, EVERY ONE OF THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED ON SEPTEMBER 22ND CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED OR WORDING A SOLICITATION OF S 21 0 3 6, THE GOODMAN CORPORATION.

AGAIN, NO RELATION TO ME.

UH, JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD AGAIN, UH, TO CONDUCT A THIRD-PARTY TRANSIT DEMAND ANALYSIS FOR THE CITY OF LANDER AT THE NEXT STEP WAS THE PRELIMINARY PRESENTATION WHICH HAPPENED IN NOVEMBER 4TH.

AND TODAY IS THE FINAL PRESENTATION, BUT IT WILL BE FOLLOWED UP WITH A FINAL REPORT IN EARLY JANUARY.

I'LL NOW HAND IT OVER TO ROBERT MCKINNEY AND LEANNE NICHOLS WITH THE GOODMAN CORPORATION.

THIS INCLUDES CAPITAL OPERATIONS.

I'M LENA GULLS WITH THE GOODMAN CORPORATION AND HERE TO KIND OF START OFF THE PRESENTATION FOR YOU.

WE HAVE A LOT OF SLIDES TO GET THROUGH.

UM, SO WE ASKED THAT IF YOU COULD HOLD QUESTIONS UNTIL THE END, SO WE CAN GET THROUGH EVERYTHING, WE'RE KIND OF SHOOTING FOR 30 TO 40 MINUTES TO GET THROUGH IT ALL.

SO WE'LL LEAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END.

SO TO START OFF JUST KIND OF A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS TODAY, WE'VE GOT FIVE KEY QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS TODAY.

THE FIRST ONE IS WHAT SERVICES DOES LANA RECEIVE FROM CAP METRO MEMBERSHIP? AND HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? HOW DOES LEADER PERFORMANCE METRICS ALIGN WITH NATIONAL STATE AND PEER CITY PERFORMANCE METRICS? WHAT ARE THE LANDER STATIONARY ECONOMIC IMPACTS? HOW MANY TRENDS THAT USERS WOULD USE LOCAL AND COMMUTER SERVICES GIVEN VARIOUS SERVICE CHANGES.

AND FINALLY, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ALTERNATIVE TRANSIT TRANSIT SERVICE MODELS AND WHAT SHOULD THE CITY CONSIDER IF IT IS TO IMPLEMENT TRANSIT SERVICE? SO, FIRST OF ALL, WHERE IT'S GOING A LITTLE BIT OVER THE CAP, METRO MEMBERSHIP AND THE BENEFITS, UH, AS YOU KNOW, UM, LANDER JOINED CAPITAL METRO IN 1986, THEN REAFFIRMED THEIR MEMBERSHIP IN 2000.

AND IN 2004, THE RESIDENTS VOTED TO ACCEPT RAIL SERVICE AND THAT RAIL SERVICE LAUNCHED IN MARCH OF 2010.

AND AS YOU KNOW, UM, MEMBER CITIES DO PAY A 1% SALES TAX INTO CAP.

METRO AND Y'ALL ARE REPRESENTED ON THE SMALL CITIES BOARD BY COUNCILWOMAN BECKY BRAS.

SO THE 1 CENT OF SALES TAX THAT GOES TO, TO CAPITAL METRO, UH, SINCE 2011, YOUR RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS HAVE GROWN OVER 600% AND YOU'VE SEEN THAT SAME TIME PERIOD ABOUT AN OVER A 16% INCREASE IN YOUR SALES TAX COLLECTIONS.

OVER THAT TIME.

NOW THE STATE AVERAGE OF THE COMPOUNDED COMPOUNDED ANNUAL GROWTH RATE IS ABOUT 5.3% FOR THE STATE AND Y'ALL ARE SEEING OVER 16%.

SO IF YOU BUY PROJECTED IT OUT TO 2032 USING THE STATE AVERAGE, UM, YOU'RE LOOKING TO COLLECT OVER AROUND $164 MILLION OF SALES TAX WHERE 18 JUST OVER 18 MILLION, UH, WOULD GO TO LEANDER.

AND THE OTHER 18 MILLION WOULD GO TO CAPITAL METRO BY 2032.

SO FEDERAL FTA, FEDERAL FORMULA FUNDING, 53 0 7, THESE ARE, UH, FEDERAL FUNDS THAT GO TO THE TRANSIT AGENCY.

CAPITAL METRO IS THE FDA RECIPIENT OF THESE FUNDS CURRENTLY.

AND RIGHT NOW LEANDER, UH, YOUR FDA BASED ON LEANDER POPULATION, POPULATION, POPULATION DENSITY, AND LOW INCOME RESIDENTS RECEIVES ABOUT $115,000, UH, BASED ON THE 2020 CENSUS, IT'S PROJECTED THAT THIS AMOUNT COULD GO UP TO $300,000.

SO AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, LANDER COULD BECOME A SUB-RECIPIENT AND RECEIVE THESE FUNDS.

AND WE'LL GO ON TO GO TO THE DETAILS OF HOW THAT COULD HAPPEN LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.

SO EXISTING SERVICES HERE IN LANDER, UM, UH, WE HAVE, UH, METRO PICKUP, WHICH IS A KIND OF A DEMAND RESPONSE AT BASE SERVICE THAT LAUNCHED IN 2020 OPERATES MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, SIX TO SEVEN AND SATURDAY 10 TO SIX.

AND SO WE'VE GONE OVER SOME OF THIS, UH, THE LAST TIME WE PRESENTED.

SO I'LL KIND OF HIT THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY.

UH, YOUR AVERAGE WAIT TIME FOR THE SERVICE IS ABOUT FIVE TO SEVEN MINUTES.

AND ONE THING THAT WE KNOW THAT WE, THAT, THAT YOU HADN'T SEEN, OUR FIRST PRESENTATION IS THE FULLY BURDENED COSTS FOR THESE SERVICES AND THE FULLY BURDENED COSTS.

SO EVERYTHING

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THAT COSTS PUT THE SERVICE OUT IS ABOUT $61 PER REVENUE HOUR FOR THIS SERVICE AND, YOU KNOW, TOTAL BOARDINGS, UM, FROM 2020 TO 2021, UH, YOU KNOW, AVERAGE STATE BOARDINGS ABOUT 35, YOUR HIGHTEST RIDERSHIP DAY WAS, UH, MARCH 3RD IN ROUTE 92 RIDERS, METRO EXPRESS, THE 95, THAT'S THE EXPRESS BUS SERVICE THAT GOES FROM LEANDER STATION IN THE DOWNTOWN.

AGAIN, THAT FULLY BURDENED COSTS IS ABOUT $213 PER REVENUE HOUR FOR THAT.

AND THERE'S FIVE DAILY SOUTHBOUND TRIPS FOR THAT SERVICE.

AND THEN FINALLY YOU HAD THE METRO RAIL, THE RED LINE, UH, THAT SERVICE, UH, BEGAN IN MARCH OF 2010 32 MILES NINE STATIONS, AND THEY RUN SPECIAL EVENTS SERVICE FOR MLS GAMES ON SATURDAYS.

IF THERE'S A GAME ON SUNDAY, THE ROAD RUNS SPECIAL EVENTS SERVICE ON SUNDAY ALSO.

AND AGAIN, CAP METRO IS FULLY BURDENED COSTS FOR THAT SERVICE IS OVER $2,800 PER REVENUE HOUR.

SO WITH THE RED LINE CAPITAL, METRO HAS DONE SOME, UH, SOME CAPITAL INVESTMENTS INTO THE LINE.

UH, THEIR INITIAL OUTLAY WAS A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, AND THEN THEY ALSO PUT IN MONEY FOR, UH, STATIONS, POSITIVE TRAIN CONTROL AND OTHER ITEMS SUCH AS BRIDGES AND CROSSINGS.

AND FOR OUR TOTAL INVESTMENT OF ABOUT $300 MILLION SINCE FISCAL YEAR 19.

AND WE ESTIMATED THAT, YOU KNOW, MOST RAIL ASSETS OF ABOUT 50 YEAR USEFUL LIFE.

AND WE ESTIMATE THERE'S ABOUT $250 MILLION REMAINING ON THE USEFUL LIFE OF THOSE, UH, CAPITAL ITEMS. SO RIDERSHIP AGAIN, YOU SAW THIS LAST TIME WE PRESENTED, SO I'LL HIT THIS QUICKLY, AS YOU KNOW, RIDERSHIP WAS STEADILY INCREASING THAN THE PANDEMIC KIT.

WE SAW MASSIVE DROP-OFF, UM, MASSIVE DROP-OFF THERE AND SPRING OF 2020, UH, THE BOARDING SURVEY, UM, AS WE MENTIONED LAST TIME, AS IT WAS CONDUCTED OCTOBER THROUGH NOVEMBER, OCTOBER 2ND, TO NOVEMBER 3RD, 14, WEEKDAYS FIVE SATURDAYS, ONE SUNDAY, WE HIT A SPECIAL EVENTS ACL, UH, THE WOMEN'S MARCH ON THE CAPITOL FOR MLS GAMES, THE WORLD CUP QUALIFIER, AND A TEXAS FOOTBALL GAME.

THE MAIN TAKEAWAY FROM THE BOARDINGS, UH, REALLY, AND LIKE I SAID, I'LL HIT THIS QUICKLY, IS, IS THE PEAKS FOR THE SPECIAL EVENT SERVICE.

UM, THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF ADDITIONAL RIDERSHIP IS ONE OF THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS.

SO FOR THE RAIL, AGAIN, THE SPECIAL EVENT SERVICE IS WHERE WE'RE SEEING OUR PEAKS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING AVERAGE DAILY BOARDINGS FOR THE SPECIAL EVENTS, ABOUT 160 FOR THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS WHERE A NORMAL DAY, YOU'RE LOOKING ABOUT 109 RIDERS, WHICH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, 94% INCREASE OVER THOSE SPECIAL EVENT DAYS OR THOSE DOT EVENT DAYS, EXCUSE ME, THE 95 BOARDINGS, THE METRICS PRESS THE COMMUTER COMMUTER BUS, UH, PRETTY STEADY ACROSS THE BOARD.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 29 TO 30 AVERAGE THROUGHOUT THE, OUR SURVEY PERIOD.

AND AGAIN, OUR LICENSE PLATE SERVER SURVEY.

UH, THE BIG TAKEAWAY FROM HERE IS THAT WE'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW, 48 TO 50% OF THE WRITERS USING THE STATION ARE NOT ONLY UNDER RESIDENTS AND SOME ITEMS THAT KEPT PEP KEPT BEING A MEMBER OF CAPITAL.

METRO.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS YOU RECEIVE IS, YOU KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS, MARKETING OUTREACH, OUTREACH, THE NAME BRAND OF THE SYSTEM, PEOPLE KNOW CAPITAL METRO COMPLIANCE OVER OUR OVERSIGHT AND THEIR IN-HOUSE EXPERIENCE OF A LOT OF STAFF WHO KNOWS THE INS OUT OF TRANSIT.

AND THEN THE FUTURE CONNECTIONS WITH PROJECT CONNECT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A FUTURE CONNECTION, UH, WITH NEW RAIL SERVICES RAIL TO THE AIRPORT AND FUTURE EAST WEST CONNECTIONS AND SERVICE EFFECTIVENESS.

UH, REALLY, I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE DETAILS ON THESE NUMBERS HERE, BUT REALLY THE MAIN TAKEAWAY IS CAPITAL.

METRO DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB IN PUTTING SERVICE OUT ON THE STREET AND THEY PERFORM WELL TO NATIONAL STATE AVERAGES.

UH, THAT'S REALLY THE BIG TAKEAWAY FROM HERE.

THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB IN PUTTING OUT SERVICE, AND NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ROBERT AND HE'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE REST OF THE ITEMS. ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO LEAVE ABOUT 25 MINUTES FOR QUESTIONS.

CAUSE I HAVE A FEELING THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF QUESTIONS.

SO PUT YOUR SEATBELT ON.

WE'LL GO SOMEWHAT QUICKLY.

UM, SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THE TRANSIT SERVICES? SO THEN THE NEXT ANALYSIS THAT WE DID IS WHAT IS THE INCREMENTAL COST OF SERVICE THAT CAP METRO PAYS ARE, ARE THE COST OF CAT VETRO TO MEANDER.

SO WE KIND OF HAD TO BREAK THIS UP A LITTLE BIT.

THIS ISN'T REALLY A COMMON STEP, BUT WE WANTED TO SHOW WHAT, WHAT THAT FULLY BURDENED COST IS FOR THE SERVICE TO LEANDER TODAY.

UM, AND GIVEN THE METRO PICKUP SCHEDULE

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THE COST PER HOUR AT THE METRO EXPRESS FROM THE LAKELINE STATION TO THE LEANDER STATION, THERE'S ABOUT A THOUSAND HOURS.

SO WE, WE LOOKED AT WHAT THE INCREMENTAL COST IS TO BRING A VEHICLE UP FROM THE CEDAR PARK STATION.

AND THEN FROM METRO, WELL RAIL, WE DID THE SAME THING.

WHAT'S THE INCREMENTAL COSTS, INCREMENTAL TIME GIVEN THE SCHEDULES AND REALLY WHAT WE FOUND HERE WAS, SHOULD WE GET THIS RIGHT? THAT RIGHT? UH, WE'RE AT ABOUT 7.9 MILLION IS THE INCREMENTAL COSTS.

AS OF TODAY.

NOW THE SERVICE CHANGES TO SERVICE SCHEDULES CHANGE GIVEN THE DIFFERENT DEMAND, ET CETERA, AS WE'VE SEEN WITH THE PANDEMIC AND HOW CAP METRO HAS CHANGED THE SERVICE HOURS A BIT.

SO THIS, THIS NUMBER FLUCTUATES A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE BIG TAKEAWAY HERE IS, IS THAT METRO RAIL COMPAIES COM COMPRISES ABOUT 90% OF THE COST.

SO SOME PERFORMANCE METRICS, THERE'S TWO KEY PERFORMANCE METRICS THAT THERE'S, THERE'S LOTS OF PERFORMANCE METRICS WE CAN LOOK AT.

BUT I THINK THERE WERE TWO THAT WERE KIND OF BUBBLED TO THE TOP FROM STAFF, ET CETERA.

AND THAT WAS COST PER TRIP AND COST PER CAPITA.

THOSE ARE TWO THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT FOR THIS, UH, THIS STUDY.

CAUSE WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE OTHER PERFORMANCE METRICS OF COST PER RIDER, ET CETERA, UM, TRIPS PER REVENUE HOUR.

AND, UM, THAT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDES.

SO COST-EFFECTIVENESS, THIS IS THE FIRST, UH, COST PER TRIP, WHICH HAS COST EFFECTIVENESS.

AND ESSENTIALLY HERE, THIS IS PRE PANDEMIC NUMBERS.

SO PRE PANDEMIC, WE HAD ABOUT 635 DAILY LAND OR BOARDINGS AT 635 PEOPLE.

SO THIS IS, THIS GETS CONVERTED TO TRIPS.

WE ASSUME EVERY PERSON THAT BOARDS AND LEANDER COMES BACK TO LEANDER, GIVEN THAT IT'S A, IT'S AN END OF THE LINE STATION.

NOW IT'S PROBABLY MORE LIKE 98% OR COULD BE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE STAYING DOWNTOWN, CATCHING A RIDE SOME, SOME WAY OUT SOME, SOME OTHER WAY, BUT WE CAN MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT'S, IT'S TWO TRIPS PER RIDER, BUT OF THAT WE KNOW THAT ABOUT 50% ARE LANDER RESIDENTS.

SO WE CUT THAT NUMBER IN HALF.

SO, AND THEN WE MULTIPLY IT OUT TO THE YEAR, WHICH IS ABOUT 200,000 TRIPS.

NOW IN 2019, THE TOTAL SALES TAX THAT WAS CONTRIBUTED TO CAP METRO WAS 7.8 MILLION.

SO IF YOU DO THE DIVISION, RIGHT, 7.8 MILLION OVER 200,000 TRIPS, YOU GET ABOUT $39 PER TRIP FOR LAND OR RESIDENT.

YOU COMPARE THAT WITH THE, WITH THE COMBINED RAIL COMMUTER BUS, THE DEMAND RESPONSE CAP METRO IS PAYING ABOUT $55 A TRIP, TEXAS AVERAGES AROUND 34.

SO, SO PRE PANDEMIC NUMBERS, THE COST PER TRIP WAS IN LINE WITH CAP, METRO, TEXAS AVERAGE AND NATIONAL AVERAGE.

NOW POSTS, WE'RE NOT REALLY POST PANDEMIC, WE'RE STILL IN PANDEMIC.

HENCE MY MASK, UM, WE DROPPED 80% RIDERSHIP, 85% RIDERSHIP.

HOWEVER, THE CONTRIBUTION FOR SALES TAX WENT UP, RIGHT? YOU DROPPED RIDERSHIP COST GOES UP AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A MUCH DIFFERENT NUMBER HERE.

SO WE CAN GET THIS RIGHT OF 214, WHICH 47 51 AND 41.

AND SO WHAT THAT SHOWS US IS THAT CAPITAL METRO, TEXAS AVERAGE AND NATIONAL AVERAGE WAS ABLE TO RIGHT-SIZE THEIR SERVICE, THE NUMBER OF, OF PASSENGERS THAT THEY WERE SERVING.

SO THEY, THEY, THEY KEPT THAT, THAT RATIO 47, IF YOU WILL, 50, 50, 47, 35, IF YOU WILL KIND OF STATIC, HOWEVER, CITY OF LEANDER CONTRIBUTING 9.4, I THINK ACTUALLY I JUST, I LOOKED JUST TODAY AND IT WAS 9.8.

SO, UM, I THINK THAT NUMBER WAS JUST RELEASED RECENTLY BY DIVIDED BY THE NUMBER OF TRIPS WOULD BE 214.

SO THAT IS THE COST EFFECTIVENESS COST PER UNLINKED PASSENGER.

SO WE WANTED TO FORECAST THIS OUT AND REALLY THIS IS JUST A SLOPE LINE.

FIRST IS THE SALES TAX, RIGHT? CAUSE THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE COST, IF YOU WILL, FOR, FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER, THE SALES TAX COMPOUNDED GROWTH RATE IS ABOUT, IT WAS, IT'S BEEN 18% A YEAR.

THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY HIGH.

THE STATE AVERAGE IS 5%.

SO IF WE LOOKED AT IT CONSERVATIVELY, IT W WE LOOKED AT 5%.

SO IT'S SOMEWHERE RIGHT HERE.

OR WE JUST SAW THIS NUMBER RIGHT HERE, TWO 14, I CAN GET THIS RIGHT.

THERE WE GO.

I GOTTA STEP BACK JUST A SECOND HERE, TWO 14.

AND THEN 45 IS WHAT THE PRE PANDEMIC NUMBER IS.

SO DEPENDING ON HOW, YOU KNOW, FOLKS CHANGE THEIR COMMUTING HABITS, IT'S GOING TO BE, I KNOW THIS IS A BIG RANGE BETWEEN 50 AND 200, HOWEVER, RIGHT NOW IT'S TWO 14.

IT LIKELY WILL BE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, DEPENDING ON FOLKS COMMUTE OR HABITS, HOW COMFORTABLE FOLKS GET TO, UH, YOU KNOW, RIDING TRANSIT AGAIN TOGETHER, THIS NUMBER COULD CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE POINT HERE IS AT THE COMPOUNDED GROWTH RATE IS 5.3% IN THE ANNUAL COMPOUNDED GROWTH RATE FOR THE TRIPS COMING OUT OF THIS REGION IS 5.6%.

THAT'S REALLY HIGH.

TYPICALLY TRAFFIC ENGINEERS ARE USING 1%, HALF PERCENT, 2% SOMEWHERE RIGHT IN THERE FOR TRIP GROWTH RATE.

BUT AS WE'VE SEEN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S HAPPENING OUT HERE IN THE NORTH, WE HAVE, OR THE, EXCUSE ME, THE NORTHWEST, WE HAVE ABOUT A 5% TRIP GROWTH RATE.

SO THIS, THIS SLOPE LINE IS GOING TO STAY ABOUT THE SAME OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

HERE'S A SLIDE.

I WANNA, I KIND WANNA S I WANNA SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THIS SLIDE, CAUSE HERE'S THE LEANDER HERE AND HERE'S SOME OTHER CITIES HERE.

SO, UM, THIS SLIDE HERE IS SHOWING WHAT LEE ANDERS CONTRIBUTION IS WITH A SALES TAX.

THESE OTHER CITIES DO NOT HAVE A DEDICATED SALES TAX

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FOR TRANSIT.

IN OTHER WORDS, THEY CAN CONTROL THEIR BUDGET OF HOW MUCH THEY SPEND ON TRANSIT.

IT WOULD LEANDER HERE, AS YOU CAN SEE WITH YOUR PEERS AND THEN THE OTHER CITIES HERE.

SO LEANDER CONTRIBUTED ABOUT, WELL, WE JUST SAID 9.8 MILLION PEER CITIES ARE CONTRIBUTING BETWEEN TWO AND 3 MILLION ON TRANSIT WHEN THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE DICTATING THEIR BUDGET NOW, AND ALL FAIRNESS, THERE ARE OTHER CITIES LIKE RALEIGH, TEXAS THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO LANDER.

THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING ABOUT 8 MILLION.

THEY HAVE A RAIL STATION, THEY HAVE MICRO TRANSIT AND YOU'RE GETTING KIND OF THOSE SAME NUMBERS.

SO IN ORDER TO NORMALIZE THIS, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO NORMALIZE THIS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A POPULATION, RIGHT, WE'RE SEEING THAT THE LEA AND OR CONTRIBUTION PER PER LEANDER RESIDENT IS AROUND A HUNDRED.

RIGHT NOW IT'S AROUND 150 $860.

MOST CITIES WITH AN MTA SALES TOWER, AN MTA, WHICH HAS A SALES TAX AT 1%.

NOT ALL, NOT ALL MTAS ARE AT 1%, BUT AT 1% IS ABOUT $150.

SO THIS IS, THIS IS STANDARD BECAUSE IF YOU GO IN AND YOU'RE, AND YOU'RE DOING YOUR TAXES AND YOU, AND YOU LOOK AT HOW MUCH YOUR FAMILY SPENDS ON SALES TAX, AND 12% OF THAT IS GOING TO CAP METRO.

AND THAT'S ABOUT, THIS IS ABOUT 150, RIGHT? AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE NOT, HOW HE CAME UP WITH THIS NUMBER.

BUT TO BACK THIS NUMBER UP THE OTHER CITIES ARE SPENDING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD SAY WHAT $5 ISH, UH, PER RESIDENT.

SO NEXT IS ECONOMIC IMPACT, ECONOMIC IMPACT AROUND THE STATION.

ANOTHER THING WE WANTED TO LOOK AT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE STATION, WHAT CAN THE STATION DO, RIGHT? WHAT'S THE ECONOMIC IMPACT? WOULD THERE BE ANY FOREGONE, UH, ECONOMIC GROWTH AROUND THE STATION? SO WE TALKED TO DEVELOPERS, WE TALKED TO SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS, ET CETERA.

WE TRIED TO TALK TO EVERY, I WOULD SAY JUST ABOUT EVERY LAND OWNER OR STAKEHOLDER AROUND THE STATION TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A CONVERSATION WITH THEM ABOUT THE RAIL.

AND THEN ALSO WHAT WE DID IS WE, WE COMPLETED A NATIONAL, UH, LITERATURE REVIEW.

WE LOOKED AT ABOUT 15 STUDIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT REALLY ANALYZED ECONOMIC IMPACTS AT END OF THE LINE STATIONS, BECAUSE END OF THE LINE STATIONS ARE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN MIDDLE LINE OR DOWNTOWN STATIONS.

THERE'S JUST DIFFERENT ACTIVITY, RIGHT? FOLKS ARE GETTING ON THE TRAIN OR GETTING ON THE BUS AND THEN, AND THEN GOING TO THEIR DESTINATION AND THEN COMING HOME RATHER THAN IT BEING THE DESTINATION.

UH, CERTAINLY WHAT WE FOUND IN THE NATIONAL LITERATURE IS THAT THE RAIL LINE MAKES IT EASIER TO RETAIN AND ATTRACT WORKERS.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE KIND OF W WE SAW THAT NATIONALLY, UH, IT CONTRIBUTES TO A, UM, A STATION LIKE THIS CONTRIBUTES TO NEW BUSINESS CREATION, BUT IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT NEW BUSINESS CREATION, THE, UH, YOU REALLY, WHAT WE FOUND IS MOST OF THESE COMMUNITIES WERE MODIFYING THEIR REGULATORY BARRIERS TO INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT.

SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE PLANNED STATIONARY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE ALL HEARD OF IN THE SOUTH AND IN THE NORTH.

AND WE HAVE ABOUT RIGHT NOW PLANNED ABOUT 3 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE, RETAIL, MEDICAL, AND HOUSING, AND THE AVERAGE SALES TAX GENERATION.

NOW THIS COMES FROM THE TERRORS AND THIS CAME FROM THE JULY TERS MEETING.

SO THAT'S WHERE THESE NUMBERS COME FROM.

IT'S ABOUT 2.4 MILLION ANNUALLY.

AND THEN FOR THE PROPERTY TAX GENERATION FOR THE CITY OF LANDER, THIS ISN'T TOTAL, THIS IS FOR THE CITY AND THE TOURS WOULD BE ABOUT 4.7 ANNUALLY.

UM, AND THEN SOME OF THE ENHANCEMENT OPPORTUNITIES, THIS ALSO ENHANCES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CROSSINGS, BIKE SHARE, ET CETERA.

AND TO REALLY, REALLY LOOK AT WHAT WE FOUND IS LOOK AT SOME OF THESE CROSSINGS TO THE STATION TO CREATE A BIT MORE OF A WALKABLE STATION.

SO LOCAL DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, WHAT WE HEARD KIND OF OVER AND OVER AND NOT JUST THE LOCAL DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

WE ASKED OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, I WOULD SAY, ARE DEVELOPING IN THE AUSTIN AREA AND WHAT WE, WHAT WE ASKED, WE JUST STRAIGHT UP ASKED THE QUESTION.

IF RAIL WASN'T REALIZED, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT WOULDN'T HAPPEN.

AND I THINK IT WAS A VERY VALID QUESTION AND THE COUP AND THE ANSWER WAS IS THAT THERE'S JUST NOT A REAL LINEAR RELATIONSHIP.

AND IT'D BE REALLY HARD TO TRY TO DETERMINE THAT BECAUSE AS WE KNOW IN ECONOMICS, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT COME INTO PLAY.

WHEN YOU DECIDE TO OPEN UP A BUSINESS, LAND VALUE, FREEWAY, ACCESS SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, ALL WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, ET CETERA.

AND SO REALLY WE COULDN'T JUST ISOLATE RAIL TO SAY, OKAY, IF, IF RAIL WERE TO GO AWAY, HOW MUCH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT BE REALIZED, HOWEVER, WE DID, WE DID HEAR THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT THE MARKET ABILITY OF LIGHT RAIL OR RAIL OR ANY TYPE OF RAIL COMMUTER OR LIGHT RAIL IS VERY STRONG FOR EAST COAST FIRMS BECAUSE EAST COAST FIRMS HAVE BOARDS THAT ARE USED TO HAVING FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, USE ROBUST PUBLIC TRANSIT.

SO IF THEY'VE NEVER BEEN TO AUSTIN AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT A CUT SHEET BETWEEN TWO CITIES AND THEY'RE IN THERE EQUAL ONE HAS RAIL ONE DOESN'T, THEN IT'S GOING TO BODE BETTER.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'LL MAKE THE DECISION FOR THAT, BUT IT CERTAINLY WOULD BOAT BETTER JUST LIKE WHEN WE GO OUT AND WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, A HOUSE LIKE, OH, THIS ONE HAS ONE THING THAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS ONE NEW WINDOWS OR WHATEVER.

THAT KIND OF SETS IT APART A LITTLE BIT.

WE KIND OF SEE

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SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF, I WOULD SAY THAT THE INCREMENTAL COSTS, THE PERFORMANCE METRICS, THE MEMBERSHIP, ET CETERA.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO TRANSITION A BIT TO WHAT, WHAT THE LOCAL SERVICE TRANSIT DEMAND AND COMMUTER TRANSIT DEMAND IS.

AND SO THIS IS REALLY STARTING TO SET THE FOUNDATION, THE BUILDING BLOCKS, WE CHECK THE TIME, OKAY, THE BUILDING BLOCKS FOR AN ALTERNATIVE TRANSIT SERVICE OR AN AURA OR A, OR A DIFFERENT TRANSIT SERVICE, IF YOU WILL.

SO FIRST FOR THE LOCAL SERVICE LOCAL SERVICE, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO MAIN TYPES OF LOCAL SERVICE TRANSIT OFFERINGS.

RIGHT NOW, THERE IS ON-DEMAND, WHICH ARE MICRO TRANSIT, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE NOW, AND THEN THERE'S FIXED ROUTE.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ANALYZE FIXED ROUTE TO MAKE, TO SEE IF LEANDER REALLY WOULD, I WOULD SAY QUALIFY, OR WOULD IT BE FEASIBLE? ANYTHING'S FEASIBLE.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PUBLIC SUBSIDY OF, OF FIXED ROUTE.

AND SO THE RULE OF THUMB SINCE REALLY THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES HAS BEEN 4.5 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

THAT'S THE RED HERE.

AND THEN ON A LINE ON A FIXED ROUTE LINE, AT LEAST FIVE TO 8 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE RAN THE ANALYSIS ON SOME OF YOUR MAJOR CORRIDORS HERE.

AND WE FOUND THAT REALLY GIVEN THE ROADWAY NETWORK, THE LAND USE THE PUBLIC SUBSIDY FOR FIXED ROUTE WOULD BE FAIRLY HIGH COMPARED TO A PURE FIXED ROUTE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT, WHETHER IT'S FEASIBLE OR NOT, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BE FOR FIXED ROUTE.

SO WE REALLY THEN FLIP OVER TO, OKAY, DOES ON-DEMAND MICRO TRANSIT? IS THAT, IS THAT FEASIBLE? DOES THAT WORK, ET CETERA, DOES IS THE SUBSIDY LESS SERVE MORE FOLKS? THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS TO LOOK AT THIS.

AND THE FIRST THING IS WE LOOK AT THIS TRANSPORTATION EQUITY DEMAND INDEX, WHERE WE LOOK AT ALL OF THESE FACTORS HERE AND WE INDEX IT AND WE SAY, OKAY, RED IS HIGH TRANSIT NEED, AND YELLOW IS MEDIUM AND LOW.

SO THIS IS RELATIVE TO ALL OF THOSE, UM, ALL OF THOSE OTHER TRACKS.

SO IT'S NOT RELATIVE TO THIS, TO THE WHOLE AUSTIN METRO AREA REALLY TRIES TO HONE IN ON, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE TO HAVE A MICRO TRANSIT ZONE, WHERE WOULD THAT BE? IS THERE IS THE KEY QUESTION.

THE OTHER THING IS MAJOR TRANSIT DESTINATIONS, RIGHT? WHERE DO PEOPLE WANT TO GO? WE KIND OF, THE LAST SLIDE IS KIND OF WHERE ARE PEOPLE COMING FROM THE NEXT IS WHERE DO THEY WANT TO GO? HIGH SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT SUPPORT FACILITIES.

AND THE BIGGIE HERE IS, IS, YOU KNOW, MOST FOLKS WANT TO GO TO HEB, UH, OR RANDALLS, UM, AND ANY OTHER GROCERY STORE THAT YOU HAVE IN LANDER, UH, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, CALLS OTHER OTHER BIG BOX.

THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE THE BIG, UH, LOCATIONS THAT FOLKS GO TO.

SO WHEN WE PULL ALL THAT TOGETHER, HERE'S THE METRO PICKUP ZONE.

METRO PICKUP ZONE SERVES ABOUT 20,000.

UM, AND, AND EMPLOYMENT SERVED AS IS 3,700 MAJOR TRIP GENERATORS OR 40.

SO THE, THAT THE BIG IDEA HERE IS THIS AVERAGE INTERNAL TRIPS.

SO WE USE CELL PHONE DATA TO SAY, HOW MANY TRIPS ARE STAYING WITHIN THAT ZONE? AND THERE'S 8,500 TRIPS STAYING WITHIN THIS ZONE.

YOU'RE CAPTURING ABOUT A HALF A PERCENT OF THOSE TODAY.

AND THE REST WALK, TAKE CARS OR WHATEVER, NOT, NOT ON DEMAND TRANSIT.

SO WE CAN USE THAT AS KIND OF THE MODAL SPLIT.

THE COST OF THIS IS ABOUT A HALF A MILLION.

WE USE METRO EXPANDED ZONE AND W CAUSE WE RAN WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING BLOCKS HERE.

HERE'S ANOTHER OPTION AND EXPANDED ZONE POPULATION SERVES ABOUT 50,000 AVERAGE INTERNAL TRIPS, 25,000.

SO YOU HAVE A BIGGER MARKET.

SO THEREFORE WE'RE GOING TO CAPTURE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOLKS TO USE THE SERVICE, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT 140.

AND THIS WOULD BE 1.4 MILLION, GIVEN THAT $60 AN HOUR RANGE.

AND THEN THE WHOLE CITY AND THE CITY IS CLEARLY A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE INTERNAL TRIPS AND A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE POPULATION.

THE ESTIMATED COSTS WOULD BE ABOUT 1.9 MILLION.

SO IN SUMMARY, YOU HAVE THE CURRENT AREA, THERE'S A MEDIUM ZONE AND A CITY-WIDE ZONE.

SO THOSE ARE A THREE BUILDING BLOCKS FOR LOCAL SERVICE, COMMUTER DEMAND SERVICE.

I'M GOING TO GO KIND OF QUICKLY THROUGH THIS.

THIS GETS A BIT TECHNICAL.

WE WILL HAVE A REPORT THAT WILL BE SENT TO YOU ALL IN JANUARY.

I MEAN, YOU CAN, AND YOU CAN READ THROUGH THE, THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THIS SOLVING FOR TWO C, TWO EQUATIONS WITH DEMAND ANALYSIS, FOR A PARKING RIDE, TRIP FLOWS AND MODAL SPLIT TRIP FLOWS.

HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING FROM POINT A TO POINT B AND THE MODAL SPLIT IS HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD THEN USE THE SERVICE THAT YOU'RE PUTTING OUT ON THE STREET, COMMUTER BUS, COMMUTER, RAIL, WHATEVER.

SO, FIRST THING IS, AND, AND THIS CAME UP, UM, LAST TIME WAS WHERE IS REALLY THIS ZONE OF, OF THIS REALLY WHAT WE WOULD CALL THE, THE ATTRACTION MARKET AREA.

YOU KNOW, THIS, THESE FOLKS HERE ARE GOING TO USE THE LAND OR STATION AND TRAVEL SOUTHBOUND LIKELY THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE, THE FLOW OF TRIPS, RIGHT? AS A PARABOLA SHAPE, IT'S USUALLY ABOUT SEVEN MILES IN LENGTH, EIGHT MILES BASE.

THIS COMES FROM A TTI REPORT.

IT'S ALSO USED IN CAPITOL METRO'S LINE SERVICE DESIGN STANDARDS AS WELL.

UH, AND, AND THE, THE PRIMARY DATA SOURCE HERE WAS CELL PHONE DATA BACKED UP BY THE CAMPO TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL.

SO MAJOR AREAS OF WHERE LEANDRA RESIDENTS TRAVEL AND THE AM PEAK

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OF THAT ZONE.

MOST FOLKS STAY WITHIN LANDER RIGHT HERE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET, MOST FOLKS ARE GOING TO GO TO THE SCHOOL OR THE, YOU KNOW, MAINLY THE SCHOOLS OR THE GROCERY STORE IN THE MORNINGS.

THEN ONCE WE SEE EXTERNAL TRIPS, WE GET SOME MOVEMENT DOWN TO CEDAR PARK, WHICH WOULD BE TWO X EXPECTED, KIND OF IT'S CALLED GRAVITY MODELS.

SO YOU KIND OF SEE THIS GRAVITATIONAL PULL TO HOME, IF YOU WILL THEN ROUND.

AND THEN, AND THEN ROUND ROCK CENTRAL AUSTIN, THESE ARE BIG AREAS OF TOWN.

WE THEN TAKE THAT AND WE SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE OUR TARGET MARKET AREAS? BECAUSE THESE ARE BIG AREAS OF TOWN, BUT WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT THE MAJOR DESTINATION WOULD BE IN THESE TARGET MARKET AREAS, SUCH AS DELL, APPLE DOMAIN, DOWNTOWN, UM, DOWNTOWN UNIVERSITY, HIGHLAND, ARBORETUM, ET CETERA.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TARGET MARKET, WE SAY, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE MOVING FROM THIS MARKET AREA TO THE TARGET MARKET AREA? AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT, EXCUSE ME, LAKE LINE, AS YOUR TOP MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF YOUR CITY.

AND THEN WE GO TO DOWNTOWN DOMAIN ARBORETUM, ET CETERA, DOWN THE LIST.

SO THE NEXT ONE IS THE ESTIMATING TRANSIT MODAL SPLIT.

SO WE DO AN OFF MODEL CALCULATION HERE.

IT'S CALLED A BINOMIAL LOGIT MODEL.

AND THE BIG IDEA HERE IS THAT WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT FOLKS, WALKING, WAITING VEHICLE COSTS, TOTAL COST, PARKING COSTS, ANY, WHEN YOU LEAVE YOUR HOUSE, YOU'RE MAKING A DECISION OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO YOUR DESTINATION.

AND YOU'RE REALLY MAKING ALL OF THESE.

THIS IS WHAT'S INCREDIBLE.

YOU'RE REALLY MAKING ALL OF THESE CALCULATIONS IN YOUR HEAD AT THE SAME TIME, OR YOU'RE USING AN APP, THAT'S DOING IT FOR YOU ONE OR THE OTHER.

AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO AN OBSERVED MIDDLE SPLIT BECAUSE THERE'S SERVICE ALREADY OUT ON THE, ON THE STREET, THE OBSERVED MODAL SPLIT PRE COVID WAS 20%.

THIS IS REALLY STRONG.

USUALLY WHAT WE SEE FOR PARKING RIDES IS EIGHT, NINE, 10%.

THAT'S THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE SEEN FOR PARKING RISE AROUND TEXAS.

SO, SO IT WAS PERFORMING QUITE QUITE WELL.

HOWEVER, WITH AN 80% DROP WE'RE DOWN TO ABOUT 8% NOW.

AND THEN, UM, WHAT WE, WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT USING, USING THIS OFF MODEL ABOUT EIGHT TO 10% WILL USE TRANSIT, UH, GIVEN THESE DIFFERENT MARKETS.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE MARKET, WE PULL ALL THAT TOGETHER AND OUR DEMAND TO LAKELINE AND 2021 TO 70, 60 TO DOWNTOWN 40 TO DOMAIN, ET CETERA, DOWN THE LIST.

AND THEN IN 2032, WE GROW THAT USING THAT COMPOUNDED ANNUAL GROWTH RATE I SHOWED EARLIER, EXCEPT FOR THE APPLE CAMPUS CAUSE ITS CAMPUSES CAUSE THE OTHER APPLE CAMPUS WILL OPEN UP AND, UM, CAMPO.

AND ALSO WE'RE PROJECTING THAT THERE'LL BE SOME FOLKS TRAVELING FROM LEANDER TO THAT, TO THAT NEW APPLE CAMPUS.

I THINK THERE ARE PROJECTING 5,000 WORKERS AT THAT CAMPUS.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER THAT'S, THAT'S OUR DEMAND ANALYSIS.

AS OUR BUILDING BLOCKS COMING BACK TO THIS.

NOW WE HAVE THREE, UM, MICRO TRANSIT ZONES AND YOU HAVE REALLY 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, UH, DESTINATION ZONES FOR COMMUTER SERVICE, THE ALTERNATIVE TRANSIT SERVICE.

SO JUST A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN Y'ALL THE CITY COULD CONTRACT, UH, THERE'S, UH, THERE'S REALLY TWO MODELS OR SEVERAL MODELS, BUT TWO DOMINANT MODELS, PARTIAL TURNKEY, AND FULL TURNKEY.

PARTIAL TURNKEY MEANS THAT Y'ALL OWN.

WHEN I SAY Y'ALL, EXCUSE ME, SIT HAILING VENDOR.

IT'S A, TO ME, UH, OWNS THE VEHICLES.

THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT IT IS.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME ADVANTAGES TO OWNING VEHICLES AND DISADVANTAGES.

ONE, YOU HAVE TO PROCURE THE VEHICLES TO, IT GOES ONTO YOUR ASSET ROLE.

AND THEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT THAT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO MAINTENANCE.

WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN EITHER CONTRACT THAT OUT, OR YOU DO THAT IN HOUSE.

HOWEVER, THERE'S FEDERAL MONEY AVAILABLE FOR VEHICLES.

THERE ISN'T AS MUCH FEDERAL MONEY AVAILABLE FOR OPERATIONS.

NOW IN A CONTRACT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A OPERATIONS COST AND A CAPITAL COST.

THAT'S WHEN WE SAY FULLY BURDENED COSTS.

AND IT'S TYPICALLY ABOUT 40% LOWER WHEN YOU BRING CAPITAL TO THE TABLE.

SO SOME D SOME ADVANTAGES TO THAT FULL TURNKEY ADVANTAGES IS TO FULL TURNKEY, LESS STARTUP, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU'RE JUST KIND OF, IT'S A FULL TURNKEY, YOU'RE JUST HIRING A VENDOR TO COME IN AND PROVIDE THE SERVICE, OR YOU HAVE AN INNER LOCAL WITH AN ESTABLISHED, UH, TRANSIT AGENCY FOR, FOR SERVICE.

SO WE RAN THREE DIFFERENT SERVICES, MAKE SURE I GOT TIME.

IS, IS WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO HERE IS CREATE YOUR COST PER TRIP ON AVERAGE, WITH A CAPITAL METRO AND TEXAS AVERAGE.

WE'RE GOOD.

RAN THREE DIFFERENT, UH, SCENARIOS.

THESE SCENARIOS ARE VERY SCALABLE.

WE JUST, WE'RE JUST KIND OF PUTTING THESE OUT HERE TO GIVE YOU A RANGE OF COSTS AND HOW TO KIND OF, YOU CAN, YOU CAN STACK THESE DIFFERENT PIECES TOGETHER.

IF, IF SO, DESIRE, COMMUTER SERVICE HERE.

WHAT WE DID IS WE, WE THERE'S A LOAD FACTOR ON COMMUTER SERVICE LOAD FACTOR MEANS HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THE BUS, YOU KNOW, ON AVERAGE.

AND SO WE KEPT IT AT ABOUT 50%.

SO YOU COULD GROW WITH THREE TRIPS TO DOWNTOWN.

NOW THERE'S ANOTHER FACTOR IN COMMUTER SERVICE AND THAT'S HEADWAYS HOW OFTEN THE BUS COMES MINIMUM, THREE TRIPS.

FOLKS WANT TO AT LEAST HAVE AN OPTION BETWEEN THE 30 MINUTE SEGMENTS, THE TIGHTER, THOSE HEADWAYS, THAT THE BETTER THE SERVICE, UH, ESPECIALLY ON LOCAL SERVICE, BUT COMMUTER BUS FOLKS TEND TO GO TO THE COMMUTER BUS WHEN THE BUS GETS THERE.

CAUSE THEY'RE GOING SUCH A LONG DISTANCE, LOCAL SERVICE.

YOU JUST KIND OF WANT TO WALK OUT YOUR DOOR.

AND THERE IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WAY OF APPROACHING THAT HERE ON THE LOCAL SERVICE, WE RAN THE EXISTING ZONES ABOUT 1.3 MILLION FOR THIS, AND REALLY THE KEY.

AND WE HAVE A PERFORMANCE METRIC FOR EACH ONE OF THESE.

BUT THE KEY

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SO, YOU KNOW, 2010, $20 AND HERE, YOU KNOW, 30, $20 SOMEWHERE RIGHT IN THERE TRYING TO MAKE THAT, THAT COST PER TRIP, UH, SCALABLE, IF YOU WILL, THE PLUS SCENARIO ADDING THREE TRIPS TO LAKELINE, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS ALL KIND OF MORE DETAILED SERVICE PLANNING.

IF THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL CHOSE TO DO, UH, YOU COULD ADD TRIPS TO LAKELINE AND THEN, UM, EXPAND THE ZONE FOR MICRO TRANSIT.

SO MICRO TRANSIT EXPANDED ZONE SERVE 75% OF THE POPULATION, 85% OF THE INTERNAL TRIPS.

UH, I FORGOT TO MENTION THE LAST ONE.

YOU WOULD CERTAINLY NEED AN FTE, UH, TRANSIT FTE OR, OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

AND IN THIS CASE LIKELY TO ONE AND A HALF, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO ABOUT 2.4 MILLION HERE AGAIN, UH, RIGHT-SIZING THE, OR EXCUSE ME, HAVING A COST PER TRIP THAT IS CLOSE TO THE TEXAS AVERAGE AND CAPITAL METRO MAX SERVICE, UH, 3 MILLION, AND THIS IS ADDING, YOU KNOW, THREE TRIPS TO LAKELINE, THREE TRIPS TO THE APP, APPLE CAMPUSES, SERVING THE MLS AND THEN THREE TRIPS TO THE DOMAIN.

NOW I WANT TO MENTION, BEFORE I MOVE ON TO, UH, I'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE.

WHAT I WANT TO MENTION HERE IS THIS IS ALL RUBBER TIRE, MEANING THIS IS ALL BUS SERVICE.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE RAIL.

OKAY, BECAUSE RAIL IS, I'M GOING TO STOP RIGHT HERE.

RAIL IS 2,800 AN HOUR.

IF YOU ADDED RAIL, DEPENDING ON HOW THAT CONTRACT WORK, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE AN INCREMENTAL COST.

THAT WOULD BE THE DISCUSSION WITH CAP METRO.

THAT COULD BE AN INCREMENTAL COST TO THE, TO THE, UM, UM, EXCUSE ME, THE LAKELINE STATION, OR IT COULD BE, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO RUN A RAIL ALL THE WAY DOWNTOWN.

IT'S, IT'S SCALABLE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 10 MILLION, 8 MILLION, WHAT WE JUST SAW EARLIER, UH, FOR, FOR RAIL ANNUALLY.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS RUBBER TIRE AND WE'RE 1.2 TO 3 MILLION.

AND THEN ALSO ON TOP OF THAT, THERE WOULD BE PARKING RIDE NEEDS.

UM, AND THE PARK AND RIDE WOULD NEED ABOUT 300 VEHICLES.

AND THIS IS ABOUT A $6 MILLION COST.

IF YOU WENT VERTICAL, UH, WITH WHICH IS ABOUT $20,000 PER SPACE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JOINT DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE FOR PARKING, RIGHT? OR EXCUSE ME FOR THE, UH, FOR THE FACILITY IMPLEMENTATION CONSIDERATIONS.

I'M GOING TO WRAP UP HERE IN FIVE MINUTES, UH, BACK OF HOUSE ADMINISTRATIVE NEEDS FOR IMPLEMENTATION, CERTAINLY RESERVATION POLICIES, FAIR POLICIES, PAYMENTS, MARKETING, A LOT OF THESE, THESE THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE PART OF THE MEMBERSHIP WITH CAP METRO WOULD NEED TO BE THOUGHT THROUGH.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, UNBANKED POPULATION, IF YOU HAVE MUCH UNBANKED POPULATION, HOW DO THEY PAY FOR FAIRS, ET CETERA, MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE FOLLOWING THIS, THE CIVIL RIGHTS AND ALL OF THE GUIDELINES THAT COME DOWN WITH THE FUNDS, UM, PROCUREMENT PROCURE, IT CAN TAKE ABOUT 120 TO 180 DAYS TO IMPLEMENT SERVICE FOR FULL TURNKEY, UH, AFTER YOU'VE REALLY AFTER YOU'VE EXECUTED CONTRACT WITH A VENDOR.

SO KEEPING THAT IN MIND AS WELL FOR TIMELINE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE MEANS, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, CERTAINLY A TRANSIT MANAGER AND A MOBILITY COORDINATOR.

I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH MOBILITY COORDINATOR.

THIS PERSON REALLY BECOMES, YOU KNOW, REALLY YOUR, YOUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SUPPORT, ET CETERA, FOR THE TRANSIT MANAGER.

THAT'S, THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE IN SOME OTHER PEER CITIES IS ONE TO FOUR FTES DEPENDING ON THE SIZE THERE'S FEDERAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

CAPITAL METRO HAS A SERVICE EXPANSION PROGRAM FOR NON-MEMBER PROVIDERS.

UH, PART OF IT IS, IS TO COMPLETE A TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, AND REALLY THERE'S DIFFERENT OPTIONS HERE FOR THEIR POLICIES.

ONE IS TO, YOU KNOW, JOIN CAP METRO.

THE OTHER IS TO CONTRACT FOR SERVICE, UH, DIRECTLY.

AND THEN THE OTHER REALLY IS THIS FTA SUB GRANTEE.

WE'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN IN THE REGION A BIT, AND THEN THE DIRECT FTA RECIPIENT AS WELL, AND THEN BECOMING A FEDERAL TRANSIT, UM, GRANTEE ADMINISTRATION, GRANTEE THERE'S BENEFITS TO THIS.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN APPLY FOR DISCRETIONARY FEDERAL FUNDING THAT THEN WOULD BE ADMINISTERED BY FTA.

HOWEVER, PRIOR TO THAT, YOU HAVE TO SHOW LEGAL, FINANCIAL AND TECHNICAL CAPACITY, WHICH I'M SURE THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED FEDERAL GRANTS.

UM, THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS THAT WOULD NEED TO TAKE PLACE TO BECOME AN MTA GRANTEE.

SO IN SUMMARY, UH, FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS, LEE TALKED ABOUT THIS, UH, THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR 5% ESTIMATE WE'RE GROWING TO ABOUT 18 MILLION FOR, UH, BY 2032 FOR CAP METRO.

AND THEN FOR THE CITY OF LEANDRA, TOTAL FOR CAP, METRO WOULD BE 164, UH, MEMBERSHIP SERVICES.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS WELL, ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, THERE'S IN-HOUSE EXPERTISE, THERE'S COMPLIANCE NAME BRAND, ET CETERA, ALL THE THINGS THAT COME WITH A TRANSIT AGENCY BEING A MEMBER OF PART OF THE TRANSIT AGENCY.

AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT, YOU KNOW, PROJECT CONNECT PROJECT CONNECT AS A, AS A, YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY BILLION, SORRY, LOTS OF BILLION DOLLAR PROGRAM, I THINK OF SEVEN.

UM, BUT FUTURE RAIL TO THE AIRPORT, FUTURE EAST WEST CONNECTIONS, WE SHOWED A MAP WITH THAT.

THAT WOULD BE PART OF, YOU KNOW, BEING A MEMBER TO CAP METRO.

AND THEN CURRENTLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, LOCAL SERVICE, COMMUTER BUS, COMMUTER RAIL, AND A PARKING RIGHT AS WELL.

SO GROWTH RATES, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS WELL.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN 50 AND $200 A TRIP CURRENTLY IT'S $200 A TRIP PER LANDER RESIDENT AND, UH, PRE PANDEMIC.

IT WAS 50.

AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE STATIONARY ECONOMIC IMPACT.

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UH, THERE'S CERTAINLY SOME IMPACT THERE, BUT TO HAVE A DIRECT RELATIONSHIP OR A DIRECT CORRELATION, WE DIDN'T FIND A NATIONAL LITERATURE NOR DID WE REALLY FIND THAT WITH THE D UM, TALKING TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, BUT IT CERTAINLY ENHANCES THE MARKETABILITY.

AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE DEMAND ANALYSIS, RIGHT HERE ARE SOME VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES THAT, UM, CITIZENS COULD LEAVE LEANDER STATION AND, AND TRAVEL TO VARIOUS DESTINATIONS AROUND THE CITY THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY SERVED.

I BELIEVE THERE'S A FEW OF THESE THAT ARE, ARE SERVED A DOMAIN AND CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT HIGHLAND IS ALSO SERVED BY THE, UM, BY THE, UH, RAIL STATION RAIL SERVICE PLAN.

AGAIN, RUBBER TIRE ABOUT SCALABLE, YOU KNOW, ONE TO ONE TO 3 MILLION.

UM, AND THEN FORWARD-LOOKING, YOU NEED ABOUT ONE TO TWO FTES.

IF THIS WERE, IF YOU WERE TO IMPLEMENT YOUR OWN SERVICE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BECOME AN FTA GRANTEE, UH, EXPAND SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS, TARGETS OF OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THE LAND OR PICKUP ZONE, ENHANCE SOME CROSSINGS, UM, SERVICE TO OTHER DESTINATIONS.

BUT THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE SERVICE IMPLEMENTATION OPTIONS ARE, ARE REALLY PROCURE PRIVATE SERVICE PROVIDER, OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH CAPITAL METRO ABOUT ENTERING INTO AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT.

AND THEN REALLY THE KEY MESSAGE THAT WE WANTED TO, TO, TO TALK ABOUT HERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH, IN CITIES THAT, THAT HAVE NO DEDICATED SALES TAX, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE, RIGHT.

WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS, IS THAT THEY'RE SPENDING AND, AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE DROPPING THEIR BUDGETS A LITTLE BIT, DO THE PANDEMIC BETWEEN ABOUT ONE AND 4 MILLION, TWO AND 4 MILLION, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE CITY.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS TWO QUICK QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE'LL GO DOWN THE LINE HERE.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE LEGAL QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN CONTRACT FOR RAIL IF WE WANTED THAT AS AN OPTION IS ANSWERED THAT WE CAN, YOU CAN ENTER INTO AN INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH CAPITAL METRO YEAH.

FOR SERVICES LEGALLY NOW I'M NOT LEGALLY.

THAT'S AMAZING.

AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE COSTS OF PROVIDING SERVICES AND THE COST OF LABOR, ARE YOU LOOKING AT HISTORIC COSTS OR WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW WITH HYPERINFLATION? YEAH.

THAT'S A GOOD, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

SO WE RECEIVED THESE COSTS HERE.

THIS IS THE COST THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO HERE.

THEY FULLY BURDEN COST.

IS THAT THE, WHEN YOU'RE REFERRING TO YEP.

THAT COST WAS AN F Y 21, UM, PROVIDED BY CAP METRO AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY CERTAINLY WILL GO UP, UH, YOU KNOW, 6% OR WHATEVER TOMORROW, YOUR PROJECTIONS TO US, YOU BAKED IN A PERCENTAGE, RIGHT? SO THE PROJECTIONS TO Y'ALL FOR THIS 1.2 TO 3 MILLION IS BASED ON THIS COST PER HOUR.

SO OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO GROW AS, AS DEMAND GROWS, RIGHT? IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO SERVE THAT DEMAND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOUR BUS LOAD GETS UP TO 75%, 85%, YOU'LL PROBABLY WANT TO ADD ANOTHER BUS YOU'LL BE PAYING, YOU KNOW, THE COST WOULD BE FOR INFLATION AND FOR THE, UH, ADDITIONAL SERVICE.

SO THIS COST WILL CERTAINLY GO UP, UM, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, ALL CITY SERVICES.

UM, AND, AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY THAT THE CAPITAL COSTS COULD CHANGE AS WELL, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, SO FOR A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR, THE CAPITAL COSTS CAN TRAIN CHANGE DEPENDING ON THE VEHICLE THAT THEY BRING TO THE TABLE.

THEY CAN BRING AN OLDER VEHICLE, LESS CAPITAL COST, RIGHT.

OR LESS, LESS CONTRACT COSTS BECAUSE THEIR CAPITAL'S NOT AS, I DON'T KNOW, FANCY, IF YOU WILL.

AND SO IT, THIS, THIS NUMBER, WE SEE THIS NUMBER, THIS COMMUTER BUS ON THE PRI ON THE PRIVATE SIDE, ABOUT 250 AN HOUR.

ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, I'M SURE WE ALL HAVE QUESTIONS.

SO I'M GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GET THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED BEFORE OUR TIME IS UP.

SO WE'LL START WITH PLACE.

ONE COUNCIL MEMBER CAN TELL YOU PARKER, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? UM, I TH TH THIS IS NOT NUMBERED UNDER COST EFFECTIVENESS COST PER UNLINKED, PASSENGER TRIP.

SO YOU KNOW THAT, UM, TOTAL ANNUAL TRIPS, 365,000, EACH BOARDING IS TRUE.

TWO TRIPS.

I WANT TO CONFIRM THAT, ARE YOU COUNTING THAT AS TWO TRIPS? ARE YOU COUNTING IT AS ONE? AND ASSUMING THE SECOND, BUT IT'S NOT COUNTED IN THE NUMBER.

IT IS.

IT'S COUNTED IN THE NUMBER.

SO IT'S TWICE IT'S DONE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

ONE BOARDING IS TWO TRIPS.

INTO A TWO-WAY TRIP, NOT JUST NOT ONE WAY.

SO ONE PERSON, WE'RE ASSUMING THAT IF THEY, IF THEY GET ON AS A COMMUTER AND LEANDER, THEY WILL BE RETURNING.

SO IF THEY WERE DOING THE SAME STUDY IN AUSTIN, THAT TRIP COUNTED TWICE BECAUSE THEY'RE COUNTING THAT, WOULD IT BE, IF IT, IF IT WAS, IF IT WAS NOT A END OF THE LINE STATION, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, WE, 15 MILES FOR THE NEXT STATION IS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLEX BECAUSE YOU HAVE TRANSFERS.

YOU HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE MOVING AROUND A LITTLE BIT, LIKE, UH, LIKE SAY THE, THE KRAMER STATION OR, OR MAYBE THE MLK STATION, RIGHT.

THERE'S LOTS OF LOCAL BUSES THAT ARE COMING IN.

UM, SO THERE, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IS JUST AN UNLINKED PASSENGER TRIP.

SO WE LOOKED AT JUST BOARDINGS, AND THEN WE ASSUMED THAT THEY WERE ALL COMING BACK, GIVEN THAT GIVEN THE GEOGRAPHIC NATURE OF THIS.

SO THAT TRANSLATES THE COST

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SO WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT IT IS THE COST THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US.

AND THE NUMBER IS A, IS AN ALL SCENARIOS OF TWO-WAY TRIP.

I SEE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

NO, IT WOULD BE $400 A PERSON.

IF THE PERSON TOOK TWO TRIPS, B, WHICH IS THE ASSUMPTION, SO $200, ONE WAY, $200 BACK.

SO IT WOULD BE DOUBLE WHAT THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE GIVING US FOR, FOR, UH, FOR THE DOLLAR PERSON, PER PERSON, IF A PERSON TAKES TWO TRIPS, WHICH IS WHAT WE WOULD ASSUME THAT THE NATURE OF LEANDER STATION.

IT'D BE ACTUALLY FOR WHATEVER THAT IS FOR 4 28.

SO THE COST PER, PER TRIP IS DOUBLE WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN US HERE PER PERSON OR PERSON AND TRIP IS, IS I KNOW THAT THE BOARD IT'S, IT'S LIKE, WELL, I MEAN, IT'S THE, IT'S, IT'S AN ASSUMPTION IN A BOARDING, BUT THERE ARE SOME ASSUMING, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE COMING BACK.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPARING SURE.

ACCURATELY, THANK YOU.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

COUNCIL MEMBER, MACKEY LONGORIA.

SO WHAT ARE WE PAYING FOR THIS YEAR? IS IT 2.4? THIS YEAR? THE LEANDER CONTRIBUTED 9.8 MILLION AS IF THE, UH, AS I LOOKED JUST THIS MORNING.

UM, AND THAT NUMBER WASN'T POSTED WHEN WE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE, UM, UH, WHEN WE DID THE STUDY, WE ASSUMED 9.4, BUT IT WAS 9.8.

SO THIS STUDY IS ASSUMING 9.4.

CAUSE WE, WE DID IT BEFORE THE FOURTH QUARTER.

AND THEN THERE WERE PLACEMENT SERVICE IS 2.9 MAX SCENARIO, RIGHT.

FOR RUBBER TIRE FOR THAT SCENARIO.

IT'S NOT LIKE FOR LIKE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE TR RAIL SERVICE THIS SCENARIO.

SO, SO GOING TO GO BACK TO THE SCENARIO REAL QUICKLY, AND MAYBE THIS IS WASTING TIME WHEN I DO THIS, SORRY, I'M COMING BACK TO THIS SCENARIO HERE.

SO THIS IS ALL RUBBER TIRE, MEANING IT'S ALL COMMUTER BUS.

IF WE WERE TO ADD THIS THING, WE'LL DO THIS.

IF IT WERE TO ADD, IF YOU WERE TO ADD RAIL, IT WOULD BE 2,800 AN HOUR PER HOUR OF RAIL.

AND AT THAT POINT YOU WOULD WANT TO, YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATE HOW MANY HOURS OF RAIL THAT YOU NEED.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE ASSUMING, DEPENDING ON DEPENDING, RIGHT, IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 50 RIDERS.

SO HOWEVER MANY HOURS, YOU Y'ALL WANT IT TO PROVIDE THREE TRIPS THAN IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY AROUND THE SEVEN TO $10 MILLION RANGE.

SO IF THAT'S GOING ALL THE WAY TO DOWNTOWN FOR THE BUS ONLY SERVICE, WOULD THAT KEEP IT FOR RESIDENTS FIVE TO SEVEN MINUTES? I DON'T, I DON'T SEE HOW IT WOULD.

SO THE BUS SERVICE, THE WAY THAT WE APPROACH THIS IS WE LOOKED AT THREE TRIPS TO DOWNTOWN.

SO YOU COULD RUN THOSE EVERY FIFTH.

THAT'S THE TRANSIT INSIDE THE CITY PART OF THE PICKUP SERVICE IS THAT FIVE TO SEVEN.

SO I GUESS, WOULD WE KEEP THE SAME SERVICE LEVEL AGREEMENTS WITH OUR RESIDENTS, RIGHT? AND YOU, YOU CERTAINLY COULD MAKE THAT, MAKE THAT CHOICE FOR THE EXPANDED ZONE.

THIS EXPANDED ZONE.

THIS COST IS FOR ABOUT FIVE TO 10 MINUTE WAIT TIMES, WHICH IS THE CURRENT SERVICE WE BUILT THAT WE BUILT THESE SCENARIOS.

UH, WE BUILT THESE SCENARIOS, THESE MICRO TRANSIT SCENARIOS BASED OFF OF THE EXISTING SERVICE TODAY.

YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN SHAW.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON ONE, I'LL SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS.

THIS IS VERY DETAILED AND IT'S HARD TO MAKE CLEAR DECISIONS ABOUT THINGS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS.

AND SO NOW WE HAVE ALL THE FACTS TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.

BUT MY QUESTION WAS, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER AND YOUR PRESENTATION ON WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD OR THE INDUSTRY PREDICTIONS FOR US GOING BACK TO A PRE COVID RIDERSHIP.

YOU MENTIONED THAT, BUT ARE PEOPLE DOING THAT OR DOES YOUR RESEARCH REFLECT THAT IN OTHER CITIES, LIKE BIGGER CITIES THAT HAVE REAL? ARE THEY GOING BACK? YEAH, GOOD QUESTION.

UM, AND NOT SLIGHTLY.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE NEW VARIANT CAME OUT AND NOW WE'RE ALL KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, PUTTING BACK ON OUR MASS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S THE QUESTION OF THE DAY FOR PLANNERS? THEY'RE REALLY TOUGH.

UH, CAP METRO HAS RAN SOME SCENARIOS AND HAS PROVIDED THE CITY WITH SOME SCENARIOS.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE STUDENTS COME BACK TO UT OR, OR FULL, FULL, FULL STATE WORKERS COMING BACK, ET CETERA.

UM, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT.

I KIND OF, WE WANTED TO SHOW NUMBERS TODAY AND THEN WHAT THEY WERE, AND, AND YOU COULD PROBABLY ASSUME SOMETHING IN BETWEEN.

AND I KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT'S HARD BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE AN 80% DIFFERENCE AND I TYPICALLY WOULDN'T THAT CAUSE THEN IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WHAT THE CONSULTANT DO FOR YOU, BUT THAT'S THE REALITY OF THE WORLD.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND THEN WAS THERE ANY TALK IN YOUR RESEARCH OR YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH CAP METRO ABOUT THE RAIL LINE BEING EXTENDED PAST LEANDER, WHERE IT WOULD NO LONGER BE A END OF THE LINE STATION AT SOME POINT IN THE, WE JUST DIDN'T FEATURE.

SURE.

WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION AS STAFF.

I'M NOT FOR SURE IF ANY DISCUSSION WITH CAP METRO HAPPENED.

I WANT TO SAY STAFF.

I MEAN, ME JUST, JUST INTERNALLY AS THE PROJECT TEAM BRAINSTORMING.

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IS THAT ALL? OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER.

SORRY.

YEAH, I DON'T REALLY HAVE TOO MUCH EITHER JUST THAT THESE, THESE NUMBERS WERE RUN ON EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE, BUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES TO LIKE TO GIVE EVERYBODY THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.

AND SO I ALSO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING STUFF TOGETHER BECAUSE THIS IS, I FEEL LIKE THIS KIND OF DATA SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A WHILE BACK AND I'M GLAD WE'RE, WE'RE ALL DOING IT RIGHT NOW.

AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DON'T ACTUALLY BRING THIS TO THE CITIZENS AFTER SEEING THOSE DATA, UH, IS IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE OF US.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR PUTTING YOUR TIME AND FOR ALSO GETTING DONE QUICKLY CAUSE WE WERE KIND OF UNDER A TIME CRUNCH.

SO WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN PROTON, ROSS, NO QUESTIONS.

THANKS.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY FOLLOW-UP WELL, I JUST DID A QUICK, JUST A QUICK CALCULATION, JUST SURE.

ROUGH CALCULATION BASED ON THE, IF WE WERE TO CONTRACT FOR SERVICE BASED ON THESE NUMBERS, UM, AT THREE HOURS IN THE MORNING, THREE HOURS IN THE EVENING FOR A TOTAL OF SIX HOURS PER DAY FOR 365 DAYS A YEAR, WHICH THE BUS DOES NOT CURRENTLY RUN, UH, IT WOULD BE 6 MILLION, 130, $2,000 AT ROUGHLY TWO, UM, 2000.

I DIDN'T DO THE EXACT FOR REAL, SO A LITTLE OVER $6 MILLION, WE WOULD GET COMMUTER TRAIN.

SO THAT'S JUST A, THAT'S JUST A COMPARISON.

SO DOES THAT SOUND, DOES THAT WITH YOUR DEEP ANALYSIS, DOES THAT SURE.

TH THE, THE, UM, THE ONLY, THE ONLY CAVEAT I WOULD ADD IS THERE'S DEADHEAD TO BRING THE RAIL UP TO THE LANDER STATION TO START THE ROUTE, NOT FOR SURE HOW THAT WOULD BE CHARGED.

SO THAT'S COST PER REVENUE HOUR THAT COULD CHANGE A LITTLE BIT.

THAT'S THEY'RE FULLY BURDENED COSTS A LOT BUILT INTO THESE NUMBERS.

IF IT'S TO CONTRACT FOR DEAD, THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT AT ABOUT 10 MILLION.

CAUSE I THINK THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE, UH, DISCUSSED WITH CAPITAL METRO, IF THE, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO CONTRACT, IF THEY'RE GOING, LET ME BACK UP, EXCUSE ME.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO CONTRACT FOR RAIL, HOW THEY WOULD APPROACH THAT CONTRACT WERE IN A LOCAL.

SO THE 2828, 10 OR WHATEVER IT WAS THAT YOU, THAT YOU GAVE US IS NOT A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A PER REVENUE HOUR.

SO THAT'S WHEN THEY OPENED THE DOORS AND CLOSE THE DOORS.

THIS IS WONDERFUL INFORMATION.

AND SO I JUST, IT JUST, IT DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT INCLUDE, THAT'S PROBABLY INCLUDING DEADHEAD A BIT OF DEADHEAD, I'M ASSUMING.

UM, BUT TELL ME, TELL ME AGAIN, WHAT DAD HAD MENTIONED.

YOUR DAD HAD ME AND SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S AT THE, IT'S AT THE MAINTENANCE YARD ON I THINK KRAMER, AND THEN THEY WOULD BRING THE TRAIN UP TO LEANDER TO THEN OPEN THE DOORS FOR PASSENGERS THAT TIME BETWEEN THE TIME THAT THEY'RE EXACTLY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PAYING, THEY'RE PAYING THEIR, THEIR, UH, UH, CONDUCTORS.

IT'S GOING TO SAY DRIVERS, CONDUCTORS, AND OTHERS TO, TO BRING THE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THERE'S CAPITALIZATION TAKING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TAKING AWAY PART OF THE CAPITAL AS WELL IN THAT CONTRACT.

SO THOSE THREE HOURS COULD INCLUDE THAT.

IT COULD A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, AND THEN THAT 2,800 COULD, YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME AN INTER LOCAL WORK TO, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, 3000 AS, AS WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL SEEN THE NEWS, UM, OR 2,900 OR WHATEVER.

SO I THINK THAT A GOOD ROUGH ESTIMATE IS IF YOU WERE TO PROVIDE THREE, FOUR TRIPS TO DOWNTOWN, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ABOUT EIGHT TO 10 MILLION.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON NICOLE'S QUESTION A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRAIN, THE RAIL LINE EXTENDING OUT WHEN YOU TALK TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, DID THEY SAY WHY THEY DON'T DO CAT METRO? IS THERE ANY ANALYSIS OF THAT? NO, WE DID NOT ASK OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT QUESTION.

YEAH, BUT SO LIKE, IF THERE WAS MORE OR GO AHEAD, I THINK THAT THE L THE LARGER PIECES IS HOW THE SALES TAX IS COLLECTED AND HAVING A TAX CAP.

AND JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY AROUND US IS AT THAT, THAT STATUTORY LIMIT RIGHT NOW THEY'VE ADOPTED SOMETHING BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING HIT THAT 10 MILLION WE'RE GETTING HIT.

THE 7.2, WAS IT 7.2 7.4? I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT 29TH FROM LEANDER ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE ROAD.

THAT'S THE WHOLE RED LINE, RIGHT? NO, SIR.

IT'S FROM, IT'S FROM LAKELINE STATION.

TRULY.

IT WAS 10 MILLION TO OPERATE FROM LAKELAND.

I'M AT THE 77.7 0.8 10.2.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER FOLLOW-UP FROM COUNSEL? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO LEAVE US WITH TONIGHT? OH, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

IT'S BEEN A REALLY GREAT STUDY.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

AND THIS IS FANTASTIC DATA, AND I KNOW WE'LL CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.

SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

THE TIME IS 6 49.

WE ARE ADJOURNING THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP.

PLEASE BE IN YOUR SEATS AT 7:00 PM FOR US TO START OUR MEETING.

TODAY IS DECEMBER 16TH, 2021.

THE TIME IS 7:02 PM.

[4. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.]

AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF LEANDER CITY COUNCIL.

ROB LEDERMAN, THE PASTOR OF FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH LEANDER, AND AN EIGHT YEAR VETERAN COUNCIL MEMBER WILL BE PROVIDING OUR INVOCATION TONIGHT.

WELCOME PASTOR LEADERMEN, UH, AFTER THE INVOCATION, PLEASE, EVERYBODY STAY STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

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WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT, AND I WILL BE GLAD TO DO OUR PRAYER FOR TONIGHT.

IF WE COULD BOW OUR HEADS, PLEASE ALMIGHTY GOD WERE IN AWE OF YOUR MAGNIFICENT POWER DISPLAYED TO THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE FOR, THROUGH YOU.

ALL THINGS ARE MADE AND ALL THINGS HAVE THEIR BEING.

WE HAVE COME BEFORE YOU WITH A GRATEFUL THING WITH HEARTS THAT LONG TO ADORE YOU AND WORSHIP YOU.

LORD MAY WE KNOW THE PRESENCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS HERE WITH US TODAY FOR THE LANDER CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

MAY WE BE OPEN TO YOUR LEADING SENSITIVITY, TO YOUR SPEAKING AND ALERT TO YOUR CALLING FATHER.

WE INVITE YOU TO HAVE THE SAME POWER THAT WAS AT THE WORK WHEN JESUS WAS RAISED FROM THE GRAVE TO BE PRESENT WITH US HERE.

NOW, LORD, WE DECLARE THAT YOU ARE WELCOME HERE AMONG US, AS WE CLOSE THE YEAR, IT'S IN THE WONDERFUL NAME OF JESUS THAT WE PRAY.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, PASTOR.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE CITY.

[5. Roll Call.]

SECRETARY CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL CAM? IT'S A MEMBER KATHERINE BATTALION PARKER HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ASKED ME, MAGGIE LYNN, GLORIA HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER, JASON SHAW, COUNCIL MEMBER, NICOLE THOMPSON, COUNCIL MEMBER, CHRIS SARNEY MAYOR PRO TEM, BECKY ROSS HERE, MAYOR CHRISTINE SET REQUESTS HERE.

QUORUM IS PRESENT IN THE CITY COUNCILS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER SIX, NON AGENDA

[6. Public comments on items not listed in the agenda. Public comments on items listed in the agenda will be heard at the time each item is discussed by Council. [All comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual.] ]

ITEM, PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

I WILL CALL ON SPEAKERS PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE AGENDA ITEM.

AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED COMMENTS VIA THE WEBSITE WILL ONLY HAVE POSITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD.

ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL AND WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD.

I ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TONIGHT.

FIRST UP IS KATHLEEN BERNARDI.

GOOD EVENING, MRS. BERNARDI, PLEASE LIST YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

HI.

UM, MY NAME IS KATHLEEN BERNARDI.

I LIVE AT 14, 12 VALENTE LANE IN LEANDER.

SO FIRST LET ME TELL YOU MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEARS TO YOU ALL.

I'M HAPPY TO BE LIVING IN LAND OR, UM, MY FIRST THING IS IN RESPONSE TO MY EMAIL ON DECEMBER 2ND, ABOUT THE MASON HOMESTEAD.

I WANT TO THANK MR. TOMPKINS AND THE PARKS AND REC MAINTENANCE STAFF FOR REPAIRING THE TOILET AT THE MASON HOMESTEAD.

AND ALSO FOR CHRIS'S RESPONSE TO ME.

IT WAS MUCH APPRECIATED.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY COOKING DEMONSTRATIONS SINCE NOVEMBER WHEN THE BREAKERS ARE TRIPPING.

BUT MR. TAMIN SAID AN ELECTRICIAN WOULD BE LOOKING INTO THE ISSUE AS WE CLOSE OUT 2021 AND AN UNFORGETTABLE YEAR.

IN ADDITION TO 2020, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO GO INTO 2022 REMEMBERING THE ACTIVE ADULTS AND THE OTHER SENIORS OF LEANDER.

SOME DO NOT HAVE FAMILY NEARBY.

THEIR FRIENDS MAY OR MAY NOT INVITE THEM TO CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAYS WITH THEM.

IF THERE WAS A SENIOR CENTER, THEY WOULD HAVE A PLACE TO GATHER.

SO IT'S NOT TO BE ALONE.

I AM HOPING DURING YOUR RETREAT, THIS WILL BE AN ITEM OF CONCERN.

SOME OF YOU WHO RAN FOR OFFICE IN MAY HAD THIS ISSUE AS A TOP HOT TOPIC, PLEASE DON'T LET US DISAPPOINT AT PLEASE.

DON'T DISAPPOINT US IN CLOSING.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR ATTEMPT TO DO FOR THE CITY AND HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY TO KRESS.

YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT, THAT RAILROAD MESS AND CROSS THE STREET HERE ON 180 3.

THANK YOU, MRS. BERNARDI UP NEXT IS JAMES NUN.

GOOD EVENING, MR. NAN, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

JAMES DUNN, 1500 RIO BRAVO LOOP, LEANDER, TEXAS 7 8, 6 41.

AND I'VE GOT THREE MINUTES IN THE COURSE.

THE FIRST THING ON MY MIND IS THE WATER PROBLEM, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET AN UPDATE ON THAT.

SO I'LL SKIP RIGHT OVER THAT SAME THING IS THE SENIOR CENTER.

COME ON GUYS.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

I'M 72.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IT BEFORE I SHUFFLE OFF.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS I MOVED HERE, THERE IS NO SENIOR CENTERS.

STILL NOT COME ON.

THE LAST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS AESTHETICS AND LEANDER IN ENGLAND, THEY HAVE THIS THING AND CANADA IN THE NORTHWEST CALLED TIDY TOWNS.

THEY GIVE AWARDS, CECIL TOWNS, THEY DRESS UP, CLEAN UP, NICE PLACE TO LIVE.

WELL, YOU KNOW, WE ENTER, IT COULD BE GETTING AN AWARD FOR BEING A STINKY TOWN.

THIS IS SERIOUSLY.

ONE OF THE UGLIEST PLACES I'VE EVER LIVED, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AESTHETIC ABOUT THIS.

IT'S JUST DEVELOPMENT AFTER DEVELOPMENT, AFTER DEVELOPMENT, NO SENSE OF DESIGN, NO NOTHING.

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ONCE YOU GET CAP METRO TO PUT AN OFFENSE OR SOMETHING UP THERE I LIKE TO HAVE AT CEDAR PARK, THEY HAVE THESE SCULPTED IRON THINGS SET OUT.

IT LOOKS PRETTY.

YOU DON'T SEE ALL THE GARBAGE BEHIND THERE.

YOU KNOW WHAT? LET'S, LET'S CLEAN IT UP.

WE'RE ALSO DEVELOPING AN AREA.

THAT'S GOING TO BE DIVIDED INTO THREE CITIES HERE.

WE HAVE OLD TOWN, WHICH IS PRETTY PATHETIC.

WE HAVE THE HEB PLAZA AND ALL THE NEW STUFF GOING OVER THERE.

THERE'S NO NOTHING CONNECTING ALL OF THESE THINGS, NOTHING AT ALL.

IT'S GOING TO BE A GIGANTIC TRAFFIC MESS WHEN THAT'S ALL FINISHED, WHETHER IT SURVIVES.

I WANT TO SHOW THE COUNCIL.

THESE TWO PICTURES I PRINTED OFF OF WHAT A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE COULD LOOK ON.

CONNECTING OLD TOWN HERE, WHERE IT ENDS MAKE ALL THAT AREA.

PARKWAY TAKE A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE ACROSS TO THE AGB CENTER.

ANOTHER PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE ACROSS TO ALL THE NEW DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU COULD RIDE BY BICYCLE.

YOU COULD WALK AND IT WOULD TIE IT ALL TOGETHER.

AND I THINK THAT'S IT.

LET'S CLEAN UP THIS TOWN.

SERIOUSLY.

LET'S MAKE IT LOOK LIKE SOMETHING.

IT LOOKS TERRIBLE.

IT REALLY, REALLY DOES DRIVE AROUND.

IT TAKES, IF YOU HAD A POSTCARD, YOU WERE GOING TO SEND TO SOMEBODY IN ANOTHER STATE, WHAT WOULD THE PICTURE OF LEANDRA BE? ALL YOUR POSTCARD, NOTHING.

THERE'S NOTHING.

HE WOULD EVEN DESERVE TO BE ON THE POSTCARD.

IS HELPER THAT HELPED OUT HERE IN LEE, IN CENTRAL TEXAS WAS MR. FRED ROLLIN.

REAL QUICK BACK TO THE TRAIN.

YOU DO REALIZE THAT THEY ARE MAKING A TRAIN FROM DOWNTOWN AUSTIN TO THE AIRPORT.

THIS CITY HERE IS THE FURTHEST POINT FROM THE AIRPORT.

WE'RE 37 MILES AROUND TRIP IS 75 MILES.

IT'S A TRAFFIC MESS WITH ALL THAT NEW STUFF AND THE TOLL ROADS.

IT COSTS YOU FORTUNATE JUST TO DRIVE THERE.

YOU COULD TAKE THE TRAIN FOR 15 BUCKS ROUND TRIP.

ONCE THAT'S DONE, DON'T GET RID OF THE TRAIN.

LET'S CONNECT IT ALL TOGETHER.

MAKE IT NICE.

MY GIRLFRIEND AND I, WE TOOK THE TRAIN DOWNTOWN SWITCH OVER TO AMTRAK.

WENT TO DALLAS, WENT TO DINNER, WENT TO A BALLGAME, GOT BACK ON THE TRAIN, CAME BACK, GOT ON THE LEANDER TRAIN.

CAME BACK HOME.

NO CAR, NO PARKING, NO NOTHING.

BEAUTIFUL TRIP CHEAP ALL BY.

THANK YOU, MR. NAN.

AND MAY I SUGGEST THAT YOU ATTEND THE NEXT, UH, PUBLIC ARTS COMMISSION MEETING? THAT SHOULD BE ON JANUARY 12TH? I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY GOOD FOR YOU.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR TONIGHT.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO ITEM SEVEN

[7. Board Reports Exploring Leander History]

BOARD REPORTS.

WE HAVE EXPLORING LEANDER HISTORY WITH CAT HOWELL.

UM, SO THIS EVENING, UH, THIS, THIS ON THE FIFTH, ON DECEMBER 5TH, WE HAD A BOOTH AT THE CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL AND IT WENT VERY WELL.

THE THEME FOR THE FESTIVAL WAS THE GRINCH.

SO WE FOLLOWED ALONG AND WE DID MID-CENTURY CHRISTMAS HERE IN CENTRAL TEXAS.

AND THIS IS JUST A PICTURE OF OUR BOOTH.

OH, WHERE'S THE BUTTONS.

OH, BACK.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE TRACTOR.

AND I BROUGHT THE TRACTOR DOWN LAST YEAR AND IT WAS A HIT THIS YEAR.

IT WAS A EVEN BIGGER HIT WE HAD, UM, ROUGHLY BETWEEN 480 AND 500 FAMILIES TAKE PICTURES IN FRONT OF THE TRACTOR AT SEVERAL POINTS IN THE DAY WE HAD BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR FAMILIES WAITING IN LINE TO GET THEIR PICTURE WITH THE TRACTOR.

SO I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, BUT UH, PEOPLE ENJOY THE TRACTOR AND IT IS BY THE WAY, A 1964 MASSEY FERGUSON.

SO IT IS IN WITH THE THEME.

PART OF OUR DISPLAY WAS THE 1960S HOLIDAYS HITS.

AND WE HAD A LITTLE BOX THERE WHERE PEOPLE COULD PICK IT, PICK WHICH SONG WAS THEIR FAVORITE FROM THE SIXTIES.

AND I ASKED CHRIS WHAT THE ANSWER WAS FOR THE CITIZENS OF LEANDER THAT ATTENDED.

AND IT WAS THE GRINCH, BUT I SAID, I SAID, I SAID, CRUISE THAT'S POWER SUGGESTION.

THAT WAS THE THEME.

AND SHE SAID, NO, WE HAD A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE.

THAT'S THE ONLY SONG THEY KNEW FROM THE SIXTIES.

SO THAT'S VERY INTERESTING.

IT MAKES ME FEEL VERY OLD.

UM, HERE ARE PICTURES OF MY MOM.

THE LAST PRESENTATION THAT SHE MADE TO Y'ALL WAS, UM, ABOUT OUR SANTA'S FROM LEANDER, MR. FRED ROLLIN.

AND, UH, THESE ARE SOME PICTURES FROM THERE.

THE ONE ON THE LEFT THAT WAS JEANNIE CLUCK WHEN SHE WAS A LITTLE BITTY GIRL AND SHE'S ACTUALLY PASSED AWAY.

AND THEN OF COURSE THE PICTURE OF MY MOM AND DAD, AND THEY WERE IN LINE TO SEE SANTA, UM, SOMETHING THAT SHE DIDN'T MENTION IS FRED ROLLEN WAS THE ONLY SANTA FOR CENTRAL TEXAS.

BACK IN THAT ERA, THERE WAS ONLY ONE.

THE OFFICIAL SANTA FOR THE UNITED STATES WAS FROM MACY'S.

OH, WE HAVE CHILDREN.

SO SANTA

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HERE ARE MORE PICTURES FROM, UH, CHRISTMAS AND LEANDER BACK IN THE SIXTIES, UH, DOLLS AND BICYCLES.

WE STILL LOVE OUR DOLLS AND BICYCLES.

AND THIS IS THE DISPLAY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AT THE LIBRARY.

UM, WE TOOK SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAD OVER FROM THE FESTIVAL AND WE TOOK THEM OVER THERE TO THE LIBRARY.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A VERY POPULAR DISPLAY.

UM, THE, THE BOTTOM ROW IS TV SHOW.

THE CARTOONS THAT WERE CREATED DURING THE 1960S, THAT WE ALL LOVE.

UH, CHARLIE BROWN, THE EVERETT WHO HAVE, UH, WHO AMONG US HAVE NOT HAD A DAY WHERE WE PICK UP OUR TREE AND EVERY LEAF FALLS OFF.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MERRY CHRISTMAS.

AND ALSO EVERYONE COME TO THE WREATH LAYING, THANK YOU.

THE ON SATURDAY AT 11:00 AM, REGARDLESS OF THE WEATHER, WE WILL BE UNDER THE PAVILIONS FOR THE CEREMONY AND THEN WE'LL PUT THE REESE OUT.

SO I HOPE EVERYONE CAN JOIN US ON SATURDAY.

YES, MA'AM WHAT IS IT? OH, WHAT IS THAT? OH, THERE YOU GO.

ATTRACTOR IS SEXY.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

AND MERRY CHRISTMAS.

HE'S SO MUCH MISS HELL AND THANK YOU TO THE HISTORIC COMMISSION ITEM EIGHT

[8. Staff Reports Monthly Water Update]

STAFF REPORTS.

WE HAVE OUR MONTHLY WATER UPDATE WITH PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR ELLISON, GOOD EVENING DIRECTOR.

UM, THIS IS THE MONTHLY REPORT FOR THE WATER USAGE IN NOVEMBER, AS WELL AS SOME UPDATES ON SOME OF OUR ACTIVE WATER CIP PROTECTS.

UH, I HAVEN'T SHOWN THIS GRAPH IN A WHILE.

UM, THESE ARE THE NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS AS THEY GROW THROUGHOUT THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

UM, OBVIOUSLY ON THAT UPWARD TREND, IT KIND OF GETS A LITTLE ROUTINE IF I SHOW THIS EVERY MONTH, BUT MAYBE ONCE A QUARTER OR SO I'LL SHOW THIS.

AND THEN I HIGHLIGHTED HERE.

UM, A LOT OF THESE CONNECTIONS STAY THE SAME JONESTOWN LIBERTY HILL, OUR GOLF COURSE, UM, BULK WATER GOES UP AND DOWN DUE TO CONSTRUCTION.

UM, SCHOOLS ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT AS WELL, BUT, UM, MULTIFAMILY MULTIFAMILY FROM NOVEMBER, 2022, NOVEMBER, 2021, WE GREW BY 14, UH, NEW CONNECTIONS, UH, COMMERCIAL GAINED 54 CONNECTIONS.

AND OF COURSE RESIDENTIAL IS OUR BIGGEST, UM, AT ALMOST 2,500 CONNECTIONS.

UH, THIS IS ANOTHER REPORT I'LL PROBABLY START GOING, UM, QUARTERLY ON CAUSE THEY, IT IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT AND IT DOESN'T CHANGE A LOT.

UM, UNLESS MAYBE WE HAVE ONE OF THESE REAL BIG RAIN EVENTS.

UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE WE'VE REMAINED PRETTY CONSISTENT.

WE'RE AT ABOUT 79% FULL IN THE TWO LAKES, UM, THAT PROVIDE WATER DOWN INTO LAKE TRAVIS.

UM, THEY PROJECT OUT SIX MONTHS IN, THEY'RE KIND OF IN THAT 60 TO 80 RANGE DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER.

AND THEN THEY SHOW ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

UM, IT WAS AGAIN ABOUT, UM, 76% FULL, UM, ON THE PRODUCTION OF THE TWO PLANTS.

THE VCR IS, UM, SHOWN IN THIS LIGHTER BLUE DOWN HERE, AND THEN THE DARKER BLUE IS SANDY CREEK.

AND THEN THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO IS IN ORANGE.

SO WHAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS WE'VE KIND OF MADE A LITTLE BIT OF PROGRESS IN, IN EVENING OUT THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE TWO PLANTS.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY AT ABOUT 46% SANDY CREEK, UM, PRODUCTION AND 54% ON BCR.

SO, UM, TO COMBINE IT, WE WERE ABOUT 45, 40 3 MILLION GALLONS, LESS THAN, UH, THEN OCTOBER, I'M SORRY, NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR.

SO, UM, WE'D LIKE, WE LIKE THAT KIND OF 50 50 SPLIT, UH, AND WE'LL, THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHOUT THE SAN GABRIEL CONNECTION.

SO NOW THAT WE HAVE THE SAN GABRIEL CONNECTIONS STARTED IN DECEMBER, YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE WATER FROM BCU POLLING, UM, THROUGH THE CITY AND OUR DAILY USAGE.

UM, LAST YEAR IN NOVEMBER, 2020 IS SHOWN IN RED AND THE CURRENT YEAR IS SHOWN IN BLUE.

UM, PRETTY CONSISTENT, UH, LAST MONTH, OCTOBER IS SHOWN IN THAT DASH LINE.

SO, UM, WE WERE LESS THAN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HIGHLIGHTED DOWN BELOW.

SO 257 MILLION GALLONS AS OPPOSED TO 300 IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR.

UM, OUR AVERAGE DAY WAS ALSO CONSIDERABLY LESS 10 MILLION LAST YEAR.

WE AVERAGED ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF.

AND WE ONLY DID 9.75.

UM, AND AGAIN, UH, THE PRODUCTION OF THE TWO PLANTS SINCE MAY OF THE, THE, UH, THIS YEAR, UM, WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT KIND OF, WE SAW THAT PEAK, UH, GO UP IN THE SUMMER AND THEN

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WE'VE COME BACK DOWN.

AND AGAIN, WHERE WE WERE, UH, SANDY CREEK IS SHOWN IN BLUE HERE WITH, UH, UM, IN GREEN.

SO A LITTLE BIT LESS WATER.

AND THEN AS WE GET HERE, IT'S A LITTLE MORE EVENLY SPLIT BETWEEN THE TWO DO PLANTS, UM, MONTHLY WATER USE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

UM, WE ARE LESS, LIKE I MENTIONED LESS THAN LAST YEAR, BUT HIGHER THAN OUR, UH, THREE-YEAR AVERAGE, IT'S KIND OF IN BETWEEN THE TWO.

AND THEN, UM, OUR PEAK DAY IS, IS REALLY CLOSE TO THE THREE-YEAR AVERAGE, BUT PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN, UM, THAN THE LAST YEAR.

AND THEN SOME UPDATES ON THE CIPS.

UM, THIS IS THE SAN GABRIEL CONNECTION PICTURE HERE, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS PRETTY INTERESTING.

UM, SO THAT, UH, INTERCONNECT OR WE CALL IT INTERCONNECT, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY OUR THIRD TAKE POINT.

WOULD WATER IT'S UM, SORRY, I'M GONNA BACKTRACK ON THAT.

SO THIS IS THE SAN GABRIEL CONNECTION, THE BAGHDAD, UM, NEW HOPE PROJECT, UH, THAT TAKE POINT NUMBER THREE IS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE.

THEY FINISHED ALL THE SCADA AND THE ELECTRIC.

UM, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO START IT UP AFTER THE HOLIDAYS, JUST CAUSE THE VACATION SCHEDULES AND EVERYTHING.

AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS TO DIAL IN, UM, THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO BEFORE CHRISTMAS, JUST IN CASE.

UM, SO THE SAN GABRIEL SHOWN IN THIS PICTURE WAS CONNECTED ON DECEMBER SIX, THEN, UM, OPERATIONS STAFF IS SEEING CONSIDERABLE AMOUNTS OF WATER ALREADY MOVE WHERE KAUFMAN TOWER WOULD DRAIN IN ABOUT 18 HOURS.

WE'RE SEEING IT IN ABOUT SIX HOURS NOW.

SO IT'S MOVING A LOT OF WATER FROM EAST TO WEST.

UM, SANDY CREEK SLEDGE PROJECT IS, IS TRACKING VERY WELL.

THEY'RE STILL PLANNING ON THE REPORT ON JANUARY 13TH AND THE 2243 WATERLINE, UH, YELLOW APPROVED IT, THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER, AND WE'RE HAVING OUR KICKOFF MEETING TOMORROW.

UM, THESE ARE KIND OF A LITTLE BIT PRELIMINARY PROJECTS.

THE, UH, SAN GABRIEL EST IS, IS TRACKING THEY'VE RETURNED COMMENTS.

SO WE'RE FINALIZING THOSE PLANS OR THE ENGINEER IS, AND THEN THE TREVISO EST IS STILL PENDING THE SITE SELECTION, THE TERMINUS PUMP STATION AND GROUND STORAGE TANK.

WE ARE KICKING OFF ON MONDAY WITH THE ENGINEER AND THE AMR AMI WITH OUR WATER METERS, UM, THE RFQ STILL OUT ON THE STREETS.

WE'VE HAD, UM, SIGNIFICANT NUMBER, NOT SIGNIFICANT, BUT SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE ANSWERING.

UM, SO WE'VE PUSHED THAT DATE BACK A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO ALLOW FOR HOLIDAYS AND EVERYTHING.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE AND DAN'S GOING TO COME UP AFTER ME.

AND IF THEY'RE AN, A QUESTION, SORRY, QUESTION ON THE SAN GABRIEL LINE, ARE WE SEEING THE IMPROVEMENT WE HOPE FOR? YES.

SO, UM, WELL THE PRESSURE IT'S HARD TO TELL RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT IS WINTER TIME, RIGHT.

SO PRESSURES HAVE IMPROVED ALREADY, JUST DUE TO USAGE GOING DOWN CONSIDERABLY.

SO, UM, YEAH, IN THE SPRING WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE, BUT YEAH, RIGHT NOW THE PRESSURES ARE, ARE GREAT GOING UP NORTH, BUT YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY HELPING AFTER ELLISON.

UM, SO FOR SAN GABRIEL, WHEN IT WAS CONNECTED, IS THAT, IS IT FINALIZED AND EVERYTHING'S DONE WITH IT'S DONE.

YUP.

WE STARTED, THEY CONNECTED IT.

AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE PRVS AND STUFF WE HAVE TO, SO WE, WE ACTUALLY MADE THE ACTUAL, LIKE TURNED IT ON ON DECEMBER 6TH.

SO IT'S, IT'S MOVING LOTS OF WATERS.

SO DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR ELLISON.

WS 50, AND THEN THE OTHER FEEDER ARE COMING IN, UH, TO SANDY CREEK IS, UM, AND L 20.

MAYOR COUNCIL, DANNY GRANTSVILLE, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS, UM, THE, UH, SHUTDOWN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ON ONE OF THE FEEDERS THAT, UM, PROVIDE POWER TO THE THREE BARGES.

AND WHEN, I MEAN THREE BARGES, THE THREE WATER PLANT BARGES AND THE ACTUAL WATER PLANT FOR CEDAR PARK, UM, P P C IS GOING TO BE DOING SOME, UH, UH, MAJOR WORK ABOUT, UH, MOVING A FEEDER LINE OUT OF THE WAY FOR THE DEEP WATER INTAKE PUMP STATION.

SO SEE IF I CAN GET THIS GOING SO REAL QUICK, UM, THIS DRAWING RIGHT HERE, UM, WHAT IS, WHAT IS BASICALLY SHOWING YOU IS, UM, AND IF I GET THIS RIGHT, HERE'S THE ELECTRICAL OR SUBSTATIONS RIGHT HERE.

AND THEN THIS IS THE, UH, UH, SANDY CREEK.

THAT'S THE BCRA WATER PLANT, SANDY CREEK WATER PLANT, AND THEN THE CEDAR PARK WATER PLANT.

AND ALSO IN THERE, YOU COULD SEE A SMALL WORDS IS THE, AS THE POWER FOR THE THREE BARGES.

SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THAT THIS FEEDER RIGHT HERE, WHICH PC CAUSE IS THE ONE YOU'RE GONNA MOVE THIS FEEDER, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE SAME ONE, BUT WE'RE JUST SHOWING IT FROM THE SUBSTATION, BUT IT PROBABLY SPLITS MORE LIKE RIGHT HERE TO THE TWO PLANTS THAT'S FEEDER

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SO THAT'S THIS ONE.

SO WHILE I'M SHOWING YOU THIS IS THAT I WANT YOU TO JUST KIND OF REALIZE THAT, UH, THIS PARTICULAR FEEDER RIGHT HERE IS THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE DOWN FOR THE FOUR WEEKS.

UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IS WHAT THAT MEANS AND WHAT ACTIONS WE'RE TAKING FOR THAT.

SO, REAL QUICK, KIND OF FROM A BIG PICTURE.

AND I WAS ON, I'M GOING TO ZOOM IN AS WE GO THIS IN BLUE, IS THE WATER PLANT, CEDAR PARKS WATER PLANT IN RED RIGHT HERE IS OUR ELECTRICAL BUILDING, WHICH FEEDS POWER TO OUR BARGE.

THEY'RE ELECTRICAL, BASICALLY COMPONENTS FOR CEDAR PARKS PLANS RIGHT HERE, WHICH PROVIDES POWER TO THIS.

AND THEN THE ELECTRICAL BUILDING FOR, UM, BARGE IS RIGHT THERE AND THAT'S THEIR BARGE.

SO OUR BARDS CEDAR PARKS BARGE, AND BE SURROGATES BART'S RIGHT THERE.

SO ALL THESE COMPONENTS ON, ON, UH, WHEN THE THEATER GOES DOWN, WE'LL ONLY HAVE ONE FEEDER FOR FOUR WEEKS.

SO IN THEORY, IF THE SECOND FIGURE GOES DOWN, WHICH IS THE PRIMARY FEEDER, UM, WE COULD POTENTIALLY LOSE, UH, THREE WATER PLANTS BECAUSE ALL THREE BARGES ARE GOING DOWN AND THE WATER AND CEDAR PARKS, ACTUAL WATER PLANT.

ACTUAL, UM, EXCAVATION OF THE, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO CALL A, UM, A DEEP WELL, AND THAT'S GOING TO CONNECT THE, UH, RIGHT.

SO WHAT ARE WE DOING? CEDAR PARK IS, UM, THEY'RE PUTTING IN A DIESEL GENERATOR, ACTUALLY TWO OF THEM, UH, PROBABLY IN THE RANGE AT 1.5 MEGAWATTS, UM, THROUGH ONE HALF OF THEIR PLANT SO THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE WATER IN CASE THAT THEATER GOES DOWN.

ANYTIME DURING THAT FOUR WEEKS, WE ARE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GENERATOR, WHICH IS THE GREEN STATIONED RIGHT HERE BEHIND OUR ELECTRICAL BUILDING.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT THAT DIESEL GENERATOR TO THE ELECTRICAL BUILDING THAT WILL PROVIDE WATER OR WATER OR ELECTRICAL POWER TO THE BARGE.

SO IF THE PRIMARY FEEDER IS LOST OR NOT FOR WEEKS, UH, WE'LL HAVE A GENERATOR TO PROVIDE WATER OR TO PROVIDE POWER TO THE BAR.

SO WE CAN PROVIDE WATER TO THE CITY.

THE PURPLE IS AS THE CONSTRUCTION, THAT PEC IS GOING TO BE DEALING, THEY'RE GOING TO BE TEARING THIS ROAD UP, DOING SOME WORK IN THE FRONT HERE.

AND THEN THIS CIRCLE INDICATES WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE PACING, ONE OF THEIR NEW, UM, POWER POLES, UM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS HUGE.

AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHY HERE IN THE NEXT SLIDE WHILE THEY'RE HAVING TO DO THAT.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S OUR ELECTRICAL BUILDING AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO STAY AT YOUR GENERATOR.

NOW WE'VE ALREADY DONE A SITE VISIT, UM, WITH PC, UH, CEDAR PARK, OURSELVES AND VRA, WHICH RUNS OUR, UM, WATER PLANT.

AND WHILE WE DID THAT WAS, WE ALL MET TO MAKE SURE WHAT WORK WAS BEING DONE, WHERE IT WAS BEING DONE, WHERE WE COULD PLACE THE GENERATORS, HOW MUCH SPACE IS DOWN HERE, WHICH IS NOT MUCH.

AND SO THAT WE COULD COORDINATE.

CAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS EITHER CEDAR PARK OR LEANDER, UM, RENTED GENERATOR FOR TWO WEEKS WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON THE OTHER PERSON TO GET THEIR GENERATOR.

WHEN PEC GIVES US A HARD DATE, THEN CEDAR PARK AND US ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND INITIATE, GETTING OUR GENERATORS, UM, ORDERED AND PUT IN PLACE, UM, FOR THE WORK TO BE DONE.

SO IT'S ALL DONE HOPEFULLY AT THE SAME TIME.

SO THIS IS A SITE LOOKING AT IT ON THE GROUND.

UM, THIS HAPPENS TO BE THE OPEN SPACE WHERE THE, UH, WHERE THE, UH, PUMP STATION IS GOING TO GO THIS WHOLE AREA.

AND, AND FURTHER, FURTHER, THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE OUR BARGES DOWN AIR AND THEN YOU CAN SEE OUR ELECTRICAL BUILDING BEHIND THIS KIND OF S TREE AREA.

AND THEN THERE'S THE CEDAR, CEDAR PARKS WATER PLANT.

AND THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE RIGHT THERE, THEY'VE ALREADY STAKED OUT THE LOCATIONS OF WHERE THE POWERFUL WAS GOING TO GO.

SO, UM, THAT'S LOOKING AT IT FROM A SITE STANDPOINT, UM, THE WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

SO WHAT ARE THEY DOING? WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS AT THE PUMP STATION IS GOING TO TAKE THIS WHOLE AREA BACK HERE.

SO THEY HAVE TO MOVE THAT FEEDER, WHICH IS THOSE LARGE, UM, POWERFUL WAS RIGHT THERE.

IF YOU WANT TO SAY, AND THEY HAVE TO REALIGN THEM OUT OF THE WAY OF THE PUMP STATION.

AND SO THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS IS A SHUTDOWN, THE FEEDER, SO THAT THEY CAN REDO THE WIRING WITH THE NEW POLE AND REDIRECT IT OUT OF THE WAY.

SO THEY GIVE YOU AN IDEAL OF THE PUMP STATION AND WHERE IT'S GOING.

YOU SAW THE SITE.

SO REMEMBER THE OPEN AREA THAT WAS OUR LITTLE ELECTRICAL BUILDING AND THERE'S CEDAR PARKS PLANT RIGHT BACK HERE.

THIS WHOLE THING RIGHT HERE IS THE, UM, DEEP WATER INTAKE PUMP STATION AND WHERE IT'S GOING.

AND JUST FOR, FOR YOU ALL TO KNOW, THERE'S THE

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THERE IS A TUNNEL THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

THAT'S GOING TO GO TO THE FAR END OF THE, KIND OF THE, SORT OF THE FAR END OF THE LAKE.

WHAT'S GOING TO COME IN THERE.

AND THEN THE OTHER LINE IS GOING TO GO AND CONNECT TO THE 72 INCH LINE SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE WATER TO ALL THE PLANTS.

BUT THAT'S A LOOK OF THE, THIS WHOLE AREA.

IT'S A LOOK OF WHAT THE DEEP WATER INTAKE PUMP STATIONS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

SO IN SUMMARY, WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT WE'RE GONNA DURING FOUR WEEKS IN MID JANUARY, STARTING ABOUT MID JANUARY, UM, IN THAT TIME FOUR WEEKS OR, OR IN THAT TIMEFRAME.

SO MID JANUARY TO MID FEBRUARY, WE'RE GOING TO BE SHUTTING DOWN, IS GOING TO BE SHUTTING DOWN ONE OF THE FEEDERS, UM, ALL THREE BARGES AND THE CEDAR PLANT ARE ONLY GOING TO BE ON ONE FEEDER AND CEDAR PARK AND LEANDER ARE GOING TO HAVE GENERATORS IN PLACE TO FACILITATE BEING ABLE TO RUN THEIR PLANT AND OR BARGE TO PROVIDE WATER.

IF THE PRIMARY FEEDER WAS TO GO DOWN ANY, ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I KIND OF GO ON TO THE NEXT TWO SLIDES, WHICH IS KIND OF GOOD NEWS FOR THE GANDER.

SO I'M GLAD YOU CAN FOLLOW IT WITH SOME GOOD NEWS.

I'M SORRY, REAL QUICK.

CAN COUNSEL PLEASE BE ADVISED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THINGS ARE OFFLINE WHEN THINGS ARE BACK ONLINE, ALL OF THAT.

UM, YES, MA'AM, UH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL INTERNAL MEETINGS WITH THE CITY MANAGER, FIRE, CHIEF OF POLICE CHIEF AND, UM, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ENGINEERING.

AND SO WE'VE HAD SOME INTERNAL MEETINGS ALREADY KIND OF LAYING OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AND BE READY FOR IT.

SO WE'RE INITIATING SOME OF THOSE, IF YOU WANT TO K BREAK THE, BREAK THE GLASS AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE PHONE TREES AND OTHER PHONE TREES AND OTHER THINGS, AND WHO'S GOING TO BE ON WATCH WHEN AND SO FORTH SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS.

AND PART OF THAT GENERATOR IS ALSO GOING TO HAVE AN AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH.

UM, SO THE GENERATOR, IF EVERYTHING WORKS RIGHT, BOTH BIRD, SEED PARK, AND LEANDER WILL, UM, COME ON JUST LIKE ANY OTHER GENERATOR POWERS LOSS, YOU KNOW, WITHIN SECONDS, IT AUTOMATICALLY TRANSFERS AND IT PROVIDES POWER, UM, TO THE, UH, TO THE BARGE.

I'VE SEEN LOTS OF HANDS REACHING FOR MICROPHONES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE, COUNCIL MEMBER, PENN TELLING PARKER.

OH, SO THAT'S NOT IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET.

CORRECT.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT, AND WE WORKED WITH, UM, FINANCE GOTTA LIKE ROBERT, UM, IS THAT WE'RE DOING A TURNKEY OPERATION WITH BRA.

AND SO THEY'RE GONNA BASICALLY PUT IT IN THEIR CONTRACT TO DO THE WORK SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND FIND THIS THEY'RE ALREADY DONE THE LEG WORK.

SO THEY ALREADY HAVE A DELIVERY ORDER PRODUCT PRETTY MUCH READY TO GO FOR THE CORRECT SIZE GENERATOR AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED IN ORDER TO INSTALL OUT THE ELECTRICAL BUILDING FOR THE AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH AND THE CABLING AND SUCH.

SO THAT'S CONFIRMED THAT THERE IS ONE AVAILABLE TO INSTALL, UM, RIGHT NOW FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS OKAY.

UM, AND THEN, SO FOR THE, FOR THE BUDGET PART, IT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACT AND, AND ROBERT DOES HIS MAGIC AND, YOU KNOW, MAKES THAT ALL, UH, HAPPY AT THE END.

SO, OKAY.

AND IF, IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN WHERE IF THAT IS NOT AVAILABLE, WOULD THIS WORK BE DELAYED UNTIL THERE IS A GENERATOR? SO PEC D COME, COME BACK AND SAY THAT, UM, THEY CAN SCHEDULE SOME TIME, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE JUMPING ON THIS EARLY.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR PROBABLY A COUPLE, A COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SO.

UM, SAME WITH CEDAR PARK.

I THINK I DON'T, I'VE TALKED WITH KENNETH AND I THINK THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF THE SAME THING, LINE IT UP, UM, GENERATORS, AS LONG AS YOU GIVE THEM A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME ARE NOT THAT HARD TO GET.

THEY'RE ONLY HARD TO GET WHEN YOU HAVE A WINTER STORM AND THEN EVERYBODY WANTS ONE.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT SIZE ARE WE? WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE TALKING LARGE, LIKE 850 KILOWATTS.

SO, UM, AS CEDAR PARK HAS SAID, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, THAT'S NOT ABLE TO BE INSTALLED THAT THIS IS NOT DONE ANYWAY.

UH, NO, WE'RE, IT'S GOING TO GET INSTALLED.

YEAH, THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT AN OPTION.

I UNDERSTAND, BUT NOT CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND OUR CONTROL.

UM, IF THAT REALLY DOES HAPPEN, THEN WE'D HAVE TO, UH, WE'D HAVE TO REEVALUATE THE DILEMMA WITH DELAYING IS THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY DO THE WORK IN THE SUMMER BECAUSE OF THE WATER DEMAND.

AND IF IT WAITS TILL NEXT WINTER, UM, THEN, UM, THAT COULD POSSIBLY DELAY THE WHOLE DEEP WATER INTAKE AND, AND SO FORTH.

SO, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THINGS ON, ON TRACK, UM, AS BEST WE CAN.

WANT TO SAY MAINTENANCE AND DO CHECKS ON THAT PRIMARY FEEDER TO ENSURE THAT IT'S IN TOP WORKING CONDITION.

COUNCIL MEMBER, MACKEY LONGORIA, ANYTHING GOOD COUNCIL MEMBER SHOP WELL DONE, MAINTENANCE OR PEACE.

YOU'RE GOING TO DO MAINTENANCE ON THE OTHER FEEDER ATTACHED TO QA BEFORE.

SO GOOD QUESTION.

SO DURING OUR PRESENTATION, UM, AT THE OSI MEETING THAT PEC GAVE IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SOME OF IT AND DO, UM, WHAT I CALL A PLENUM PRE PRE EXEMPTIVE, IF YOU

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AND HE ALSO INDICATED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE, IF YOU WANT TO SAY IT, UM, KIND OF A STANDBY CREW OR CREWS GETTING READY.

SO IF THE POWER OUTAGE DOES HAPPEN, THAT THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY JUMP ON IT BECAUSE THEY, THEY KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT THIS MEANS DURING THAT FOUR WEEKS.

SO IN THAT SAME BREATH, DO WE HAVE A FUEL SLASH MAINTENANCE? IF THAT, IF WE HAVE TO DO THE GENERATOR, ESPECIALLY FOR FOUR WEEKS, GENERATORS HAD THAT MAINTENANCE, THEY JUST DON'T RUN ON.

I MEAN, IT'S SO DO WE HAVE A PLAN ON PAPER FOR THAT? OR SO BRA WILL WE'LL HAVE THE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO RUN THAT.

AND SO THEY'RE RUN THE GENERATOR, WE RUN A GENERATOR, THEY'RE GONNA RUN A GENERATOR, RIGHT? YOU HAVE A PLAN THAT WE ARE WORKING IN SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH THEM.

SO WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE OUR FOLKS TRAINED TO BE ABLE TO RUN THE DIESEL GENERATOR.

NOW, REMEMBER THE DIESEL GENERATOR SHOULD RUN BY ITSELF.

SO AUTOMATIC SHE'S TRANSFERRED.

THE ONLY THING WE'LL HAVE TO DO IS ENSURE THAT FUEL AND OTHER THINGS ARE BEING MAINTAINED ACCORDINGLY.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HOPE WE DON'T HAVE TO RUN IT AT ALL.

I'M ASKED THE ULTIMATE GOAL.

IT SHOULD BE GOOD TO GO.

SO PEC DID INDICATE THAT THEY WERE DOING, UM, PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE ON THE ONE FEEDER ENSURE THAT THERE WASN'T ANY, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY GO WRONG, THAT THEY DIDN'T SEE.

SO, AND SO, AND THAT GOES BY THE POINT OVER COMMUNICATE OVER COMMUNICATE.

I MEAN, I DON'T CARE.

I CARE SOMEBODY.

I DON'T, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, JUST LET US KNOW, JUST LET US KNOW.

DON'T DON'T DO NOT LET US GET A DOG ON EMAIL AND BE CAUGHT OFF GUARD.

NO, PLEASE.

WE WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE WORST CASE SCENARIOS.

ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER AND WHAT TIMEFRAMES, WHAT SHIFTS WHO'S COMING ON.

WHO'S AT EACH ENTITY WE'RE WORKING, IT'S, IT'S TROUBLESHOOTING ALL THAT.

AND WE WILL COMMUNICATE, WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS, OKAY, SO POWER GETS HIT, BUT NOTHING HAPPENS WITH THE WATER.

JUST GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

THEN HE GETS HITS AGAIN AND A LITTLE BIT AND HE GETS HIT AGAIN A LITTLE BIT.

DON'T, DON'T NOTIFY US WHEN IT'S BEEN HIT 10 TIMES AND THEN LIKE, OKAY, WELL, THERE YOU GO.

YEAH, NO, I THINK YOU'LL BE NOTIFIED INSTANTLY.

UM, JUST AS US AS IF THINGS ARE, ARE GOING TO STRAY.

SO, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST, TODAY IS THE VERY FIRST STEP OF THAT, MAKING SURE THE COUNCIL, UM, UNDERSTANDS EXACTLY AND ANYBODY WHO'S LISTENING UNDERSTANDS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UM, EVENT.

AND OBVIOUSLY THAT THE TIMING IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE TIMING OF THINGS LAST YEAR.

SO KIND OF PLANNING OUT THOSE TYPE OF THINGS IN A LOGICAL MANNER, BUT FOR MAINTENANCE, PURPOSE, COUNCIL, MEMBER, THOMPSON, ANY QUESTIONS, MY QUESTIONS ARE MORE ABOUT THE CAPACITY.

AND NOW YOU'VE ANSWERED THAT ABOUT THE GENERATOR AND ALSO ABOUT THE LENGTH OF TIME FOR DELIVERY.

BUT YOU'RE SAYING THE VRA IS ORDERING IT.

CORRECT.

AND SO WE SHOULD HAVE IT BECAUSE THERE'S STILL SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES EVERYWHERE AND TAKEN A LONG TIME TO GET THINGS.

SO HOPEFULLY THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET IT IN TIME.

UM, YEAH, I THINK WE'VE DONE DUE DILIGENCE TO SHARE THAT AND TO INCLUDE GETTING THE AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF WAITING ON PEC, RIGHT.

UM, BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ELECTRICIAN, WHEN WE WERE DOWN THERE DOING A SITE VISIT AND WE WALKED THROUGH THE ELECTRICAL ROOM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MODIFY THE ELECTRICAL PANELS TO EMPLOY THESE, UM, NECESSARY, UM, TEMPORARY CONNECTION.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME IN ORDER TO INSTALL, UM, SAID PANELS AND EQUIPMENT.

SO, OKAY.

SO IF YOU JUST TO ECHO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAID, IF YOU PLEASE COULD, YOU ALL SHARE THE EMERGENCY PLAN THAT Y'ALL HAVE, UM, IN WRITING WITH US SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD EXPECT WHENEVER Y'ALL GET THAT COMPLETELY TOGETHER.

I KNOW THIS IS THE YEAH, YEAH.

TIMES AND DATES, AND WE'RE CREATING A PHONE TREE AND A MAP WHERE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE, AND WHO'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WHO'S IN CHARGE OF WHAT, AND, AND, UM, I'VE ALREADY INDICATED TO KENLEY THAT EVERY OPERATOR WILL HAVE A PHONE AND A BACKUP PHONE.

AND SO, UH, WE'RE GOING TO WORK AT, AND IF WE HAVE TO BORROW PHONES TO THOSE OPERATORS AND THAT'S WHO THEY KISSED THE PHONES, BUT YES, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO WHAT FOR THE GENERATOR, WHAT TYPE OF VOLUME OF DIESEL FUEL IS GOING THROUGH THERE? AND THERE'S A REASON I'M ASKING THAT ON BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT ROAD THAT'S GETTING TORN UP RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

SO IS THERE GOING TO BE A WAY TO ADD YEAH, WE'LL HAVE A FUEL LINE GOING ON AIR AND IT'S ALL DOWNHILL, SO IT'S KIND OF GRAVITY FED.

SO YEAH, SO WE, WHEN WE WERE DOING A SITE VISIT, WE KIND OF WALKED THROUGH THAT.

WE WALKED THROUGH SEVERAL SCENARIOS WHEN WE WERE DOWN THERE.

GOT IT.

PRETEND.

AND THIS, UH, THE FOUR WEEK TIMELINE, DOES THAT BUILD IN CONTINGENCIES OF NOTHING EVERS ON TIME WITH CONSTRUCTION? IS IT REALLY LIKE A TWO WEEK PROJECT THAT WE'VE ALREADY PLANNED FOR FOUR WEEKS OR IS THIS SO, SO WE WERE DOWN THERE, THE TECHNICIAN FOR, FOR, UH, CEDAR PARK AND I WISH I COULD REMEMBER HIS NAME.

THIS IS A FOUR WEEK PROJECT AND IT MIGHT GO

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LONGER.

SO, WHICH IS OKAY, BUT THE CEDAR PARK TECHNICIAN WAS, CAN YOU GET THIS DONE IN TWO WEEKS? SO WE WOULD LIKE IT DONE IN TWO WEEKS, BUT THEY'VE INDICATED VIA EMAIL EVEN AS, AS RECENTLY AS A FEW DAYS AGO, THAT, UM, FOR FOUR WEEKS IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO THIS.

UM, THEY HAVEN'T INDICATED ANY OTHER OTHER TIME FOR, BUT WE'VE GOT CONTINGENCIES IN PLACE AND, AND Y'ALL ARE RUNNING THROUGH THOSE SCENARIOS WHEN IT TAKES LONGER THAN FOUR WEEKS THAT WE'VE GOT THE GENERATOR, WE'VE GOT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY SAY, NINE OWNERSHIP OR A POSSESSION IS NINE-TENTHS OF OKLAHOMA.

SO ONCE IT'S THERE, GOOD LUCK GETTING IT OUT SINCE THE ROTOR BE TORE UP.

COUNSEL, ANY FOLLOW UP.

I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT WE'VE HEARD ALREADY UP HERE, PLEASE COMMUNICATE, COMMUNICATE, COMMUNICATE.

IT'S BETTER TO SEND SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK WE'RE NOT GOING TO READ THAN TO NOT SEND ANYTHING AT ALL.

UM, I THINK WE ALL HAVE HEARTBURN ABOUT THIS, SO WE JUST WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING IS RUNNING WELL.

THING ONLY HAD TWO PUMPS, AND IT WAS STRUGGLING PROVIDING THAT WHOLE NORTHERN AREA WATER.

AND YOU SAID YOU HAD GOOD NEWS.

I DO DO IT.

UM, UH, IT DIDN'T, UH, IT DIDN'T SHOW THE, UH, UH, SORTA, UH, THOSE, UH, SO I'M GOING TO, UH, LET ME, LET ME, UH, LET ME GO BACK HERE.

UH, I GOT SO REAL QUICK.

UM, THESE, THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT PRESSURE PRESSURE ZONES WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE FIVE AND ONE OUT THE GOOD NEWS I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU IS KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE FOR WATER AND THE NEW DIRECTION THAT WAS GOING INTO THE CITY.

AND WITH THE TWO NEW WATER LINES THAT HAVE BEEN INSTALLED, THE 2 24 INCH WATER, WHAT W WHAT WE HAVE FOR WATER AND THE DIRECTION THAT IT CAN NOW GO AND, UM, AND HOW IT'S GOING TO HELP, UM, EVERYBODY IN THE CITY TO INCLUDE, UH, LIBERTY HILL.

SO BEFORE THE WATER LINES, AND, UM, GINA WAS TALKING ABOUT IT, RIGHT, THERE WAS ONE OF THE CONNECTIONS AND ON THE OTHER ONE WAS THE SAN GABRIEL, UM, WATERLINE, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

SO BEFORE THOSE, THIS IS KIND OF, WE GOT, WE GOT WATER FROM SANDY CREEK AND, UM, AND THIS IS HOW IT WENT AND IT WENT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL WE COULD, UM, DO FROM THAT SIDE.

WHOOPS.

THIS IS WHERE, UH, THE BCRA CONNECTS RIGHT NOW, THE FIRST CONNECTION, IF YOU WANT TO SAY, AND IT CAN PROVIDE, UM, UP RONALD REAGAN AND PRETTY MUCH THAT'S ALL IT WAS LIMITED TO INITIALLY, UM, BECAUSE THERE WASN'T VERY MUCH CROSS CONNECTION BETWEEN, UM, KIND OF THE OLD PART OF THE CITY AND THE NEWER PART, UM, WITH THAT NEW 42 INCH WATER LINE GOING UP, RIGHT, RONALD REAGAN.

UM, AND YOU COULD SEE THE INITIAL KIND OF THE BAGHDAD PUMP STATION AND CRYSTAL FALLS.

THEY WERE THE, ALL THE, KIND OF THE, IF YOU WANT TO SAY THE ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT.

SO, UM, UH, THIS SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT I JUST SAID, THE, THE TWO CONNECTIONS, UM, ONE WAS THERE PROVIDING WATER, THE ORIGINAL ONE GOING INTO THE CENTER, AND THEN HERE'S THE, UH, UM, OTHER ONE.

AND I CAN'T GET OUT, UH, OF, UH, WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE, BUT SO, SO REAL QUICK, UH, THAT'S HOW WE HAD WATER AND UNTIL THE NEW WATER LINES NOW, THE NEW WATER LINES.

SO NOW WE HAVE WATER.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THAT'S OUR NEW CONNECTION AT 24 INCH LINE.

SO WE HAVE WATER COMING FROM THE BCRA GOING INTO THE MIDDLE OF THIS WHOLE, THE CITY.

UM, SANDY CREEK CAN STILL DO THAT.

WE HAVE WATER FROM THE BCRA COMING DOWN THERE AS WELL.

THAT'S OUR SECOND.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THIS ONE, AND IT'S STILL GOING WELL, WE NOW HAVE, IS WATER ALSO GOING IN DISH DIRECTION.

AND IF YOU NOTICE THE BLUE IS NOW LARGER, SO THE WATER COMING FROM, UH, IF YOU WANT TO SAY THE EAST OF THE WEST, AND THEN WE GO AND SHOW, YOU, SEE THE BLUE WAS THAT LARGE, AND IT WAS LIKE A SEMI PINK.

UM, WELL NOW WHAT WE'VE DONE IS THAT'S ALL KIND OF ONE PRESSURE PLANE AND THAT WATER CAN BE PROVIDED FROM THE SECOND TAKE POINT ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE CITY FROM EAST AND WEST.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE PUSHING, KELLY TOLD ME ABOUT A MILLION GALLONS PER DAY THROUGH THERE, WHICH IS SUBSTANTIAL.

UM, SO YOU COULD SEE NOW WITH THE THREE CONNECTIONS, UH, WE CAN TAKE BCRA WATER AND MOVE IT, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE CITY.

UM, PRETTY, PRETTY WELL.

UM, SO, UH, WHAT DO WE HAVE COMING IN THE FUTURE? UM, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE THIS NEW LINE RIGHT HERE, THE ONE THAT YOU JUST SAW, UM, LAKELINE, YOU APPROVED IT, UM, THAT'S ABOUT A MILES WORTH OF LINE.

AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO DO IS MOVE MORE WATER NORTH.

SO THE BAGHDAD PUMP STATION IS RIGHT HERE AND THAT POOR LITTLE

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WELL, NOW WE HAVE THE SAN GABRIEL PUMP STATION, WHICH IS OVER HERE AND IT HAS, UH, THREE PUMPS ON IT AND IT CAN PUSH YOUR WATER.

SO THAT WHOLE BLUE SECTION, AND SO BAGHDAD PUMP STATION IS PROVIDING WATER TO THE UPPER, UM, PRESSURE PLANE, WHICH IS THE PINK AREA HERE.

AND TO, UM, THERE WAS A HILL, THIS LINE WILL HELP BY PUSHING MORE WATER INTO THE PRESSURE ZONE.

SO THAT SHOULD BE IN THE NEXT HOPEFULLY YEAR AND A HALF.

WE'RE REALLY GONNA PUSH THAT ONE.

THAT'S MY, I REALLY WANT TO GET DONE PROJECT.

THE OTHER ONE IS THE TERMINUS, UH, PUMP STATION AND GROUNDWATER STORAGE TANK, WHICH IS GONNA ADD A LOT OF, UM, ADDITIONAL MOVEMENT TO THE NORTH AND OLDER PARTS OF THE CITY.

AND THEN YOU HEARD IT, HEARD IT ALREADY, THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK, THE SAN GABRIEL, THE STORAGE TANK, WHICH WILL ALLOW, UM, BETTER PRESSURE CONTROL AND THAT WHOLE AREA AND FROM THE BCR UA.

SO YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, UM, AND PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING ONLINE, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE WATER THROUGHOUT THE CITY AT A VERY HOPEFULLY CONSTANT PRESSURE, UM, AND PROVIDING THE ENTIRE, UH, CITY, UM, GOOD WATER AS, AS THEY SAY.

AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT I HAD FOR GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE'RE GETTING THE PROJECTS ARE GETTING DONE AND, UH, AND THE FUTURE ONES ARE, YOU'VE ALREADY PROVED MANY OF THE DESIGNS AND, AND THEY'RE TRACKING, THANK YOU FOR ENDING ON A HIGH NOTE.

I APPRECIATE COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY, DIRECTOR, GRANDPA, PLEASE.

DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

HI.

SO LAST MONTH I CALLED YOU UP HERE AND I SAID THAT WE HAD A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE AND IT WAS YOUR BIRTHDAY.

AND WE SAYING HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

SO I'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT TONIGHT IS OUR CITY MANAGER'S BIRTHDAY.

PLEASE EMBARRASS HIM BY ALL MEANS, THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO HELP.

AND ALSO YESTERDAY WAS COUNCIL MEMBERS THEIR NEXT BIRTHDAY.

SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU, IT'S NOT OFFICIAL YOU SKIPPING BIRTHDAYS.

UM, SO I WAS HOPING THAT YOU WOULD STAY UP HERE TONIGHT AND HELP LEAD US IN SINGING HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO BOTH OF THEM.

SO YOU'RE STILL IN THE HOT SEAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'D LOVE YOU FOR IT.

YEAH, THE BOYS.

WELL, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT A MINUTE.

I WANT THE EVERYBODY'S STANDING AROUND AND SAYING, I AGREE.

LET'S ALL STAND EVERYBODY UP.

STRETCH YOUR LEGS.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, BOTH HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY MANAGER GOT EMBARRASSED.

ITEMS NINE THROUGH 20 COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA COUNCIL NOW CONSIDER CONSENT AGENDA

[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]

THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AMENDING THE PREVIOUS AUTHORIZATION OF SOLICITATION S TWO ZERO DASH 0 5 2 PRE QUALIFIED ENGINEERING CONSULTING SERVICES BY ADDING 17 NEW ENGINEERING FIRMS TO THE APPROVAL FOR THE REMAINDER OF A THREE-YEAR PERIOD AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY.

REGULAR AGENDA ITEM 21.

[21. Discuss and consider action on amending the previous authorization of Solicitation S20-052, Pre-Qualified Engineering Consulting Services by adding 17 new engineering firms to the approval for the remainder of a three-year period; and authorize the City Manager to execute all necessary contract documents.]

CONTRACT DOCUMENTS, CITY ENGINEER, YOUR NOT MR. BLACK HEADER.

WELCOME BACK DIRECTOR CRIMSON.

UM, YES, MA'AM, UH, MERISEE COUNCIL DANKER AND SO EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, YES.

SO, UM, WE, UH, BROUGHT, UH, PRE-QUALIFIED ENGINEERING LISTS, UH, TO THE SEED COUNCIL BACK IN JULY OF 2020, AND, UM, COUNCIL APPROVED IT.

AND, UM, THERE WAS, UH, 21 FIRMS THAT WERE SELECTED OVER A SIX CATEGORY, UM, ITEM ROAD, WATERWORKS DRAINAGE, ET CETERA, SURVEYING.

AND, UM, AND YOU JUST SAW, UM, THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED, UM, SOME OF THE, UH, UM, DESIGN AND WE HAVE SEVERAL MORE THAT ARE COMING.

SO THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS HERE WAS AT THE TIME WE THOUGHT WE HAD PROBABLY HAD ENOUGH ENGINEERS, UM, ON THAT PRE-QUALIFICATION LIST.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ADD 17 MORE AND BASICALLY THREE CATEGORIES, WHICH ARE THE THREE CATEGORIES THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON, WHICH IS ROADWAY WORK AND DESIGN WATER, AND WASTEWATER DESIGN AND DRAINAGE DESIGN.

AND SO WE'RE ADDING, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, ENGINEERING FIRMS. SO THOSE PARTICULAR CATEGORIES AND, UH, WITH, UH, COUNCIL'S APPROVAL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON NOW, AND WE'LL HAVE A LARGER LIST TO PROVIDE, UH, BETTER, UM, UM, DELIVERY OF THE WORKLOAD AND A

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COMPETITIVENESS, IF YOU WANT TO SAY.

UM, UH, AND IT ALSO ALLOWS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, UM, SOME OF THE COMPANIES THAT ARE SMALLER, SOME ARE LARGER, AND SOME THAT ARE SMALLER ARE BETTER FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS THAN LARGER ONES AND SO FORTH.

SO IT GIVES US A FLEXIBILITY TO KIND OF WORK THE LOAD AND LEVEL, LOAD IT AS BEST WE CAN.

SO HOW ABOUT A MOTION TO APPROVE? OH, YOU WERE JUST WAITING FOR THAT THE SECOND, THE SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

THERE'S A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER, SHEILA AND A SECOND BY PROTON, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

22, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PRESIDENT OF BCRA TO EXECUTE AN ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT WITH WALKER PARTNERS, LLC, FOR THE BCR UI PHASE ONE D WATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION, BUT THE CITY OF LEANDER COST PORTION OF $642,108 OF THE TOTAL NEGOTIATED AMOUNT OF $1,375,848 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, ITEM

[22. Discuss and consider action on a Resolution authorizing the President of BCRUA to execute an engineering services contract with Walker Partners, LLC for the BCRUA Phase 1D Water Treatment Plant Expansion for the City of Leander cost portion of $642,108.00 of the total negotiated amount of $1,375,848.00.]

UH, YES MA'AM.

SO AGAIN, DAN GREENSVILLE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, UM, BEFORE I START THOUGH, WAS, UM, IN THE, UM, AND THE WORDING OF, UH, OF THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, UH, WE SAID THERE WOULD ACTUALLY BE A RESOLUTION, UM, FOR THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE RESI ISN'T A RESOLUTION IT'S, UM, THAT WAS MY MISTAKE.

IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT A SCRIPTURES EVER, UM, UH, THE BOARD ALREADY HAD A RESOLUTION.

AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL DO IS TO APPROVE THAT RESOLUTION, IF YOU WANT TO SAY, BUT THE CONTRACT, UM, THAT THE BOARD APPROVED, WHICH IS THE, UH, DESIGN CONTRACT WITH WA UM, WALKER PARTNERS.

SO, UM, WITH THAT SAID, UM, YEAH, THIS, THIS IS APPROXIMATELY $600,000, AND THIS IS FOR PHASE ONE D DESIGN.

UM, AND THE IDEA IS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO, UM, GET THE DESIGN GOING, STARTING IN JANUARY.

SO RIGHT NOW ALL THREE CITIES ARE THE BOARD HAD IT YESTERDAY AND ALL THREE CITIES ARE APPROVING, UM, THIS, IF YOU WANT TO SAY RESOLUTION IN CONTRACT TODAY, WHICH IS A MINOR STANDING THE FIRST TIME THAT HAS HAPPENED, MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND.

ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION.

THE SECOND I'M SEEING THE CONTRACT, BUT I'M NOT SEEING THE RESOLUTION.

IS THAT, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A RESOLUTION IN THE CONTRACT, SO WE'RE CALLING IT A RESOLUTION.

NO, THERE'S A, THERE WAS A RESOLUTION THAT THE BOARD APPROVED AND THAT THE BOARD PRESIDENT SIGNED, WE DID NOT CREATE A RESOLUTION, A SECONDARY ONE.

WE JUST HAVE THE CONTRACT, NO PROVEN TRACK.

YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY ERA NOW.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM 23, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING BCRA PRESIDENT TO EXECUTE A SIXTH AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER CONTRACT FOR THE FINANCING, CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE BCRA REGIONAL WATER TREATMENT AND DISTRIBUTION PROJECT.

[23. Discuss and consider action on a Resolution authorizing the BCRUA President to execute a Sixth Amendment to the Master Contract for the Financing, Construction and Operation of the BCRUA Regional Water Treatment and Distribution Project.]

SO, UH, SAME ERROR ON THAT.

UM, MY, MY APOLOGIES.

SO WHAT THIS AMENDMENT IS GOING TO DO IS ESSENTIALLY, UM, UPDATE WHERE WE'RE AT.

SO THE, PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS IT'S GOING TO IMPLEMENT AND HAVE A NEAR THE DEFINITION OF WHAT PHASE ONE, B, ONE C AND WENDY IS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF ONE D.

SO, UM, IT ADDED SEVERAL EXHIBITS AND THE DEFINITION AND THE CAPACITY OF EACH OF THOSE PHASES INTO THEIR CONTRACT THROUGH THIS AMENDMENT, IF YOU WANT TO SAY, UM, SO THAT, UM, ALL THE CITIES, UM, KNOW WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT IS ESSENTIALLY.

SO STANDING BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS, MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, SECOND MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM 24, DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ON THE ANNUAL APPOINTMENT OF THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE.

[24. Discuss and consider action on the annual appointment of the Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) No. 1 Board Chair for a term from January 1, 2022 through December 31, 2022.]

TOUR'S NUMBER ONE BOARD CHAIR FOR A TERM FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2022 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2022.

UM, AS ALL OF YOU ARE PROBABLY AWARE, I FILLED THAT SEAT, UM, AFTER MAYOR HILL WAS OUT OF OFFICE, HE PREVIOUSLY HELD THE SEAT.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT I CONTINUE TO HOLD THE SEAT.

SECOND MOTION AND SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES, UNANIMOUSLY ITEM 25

[25. Discussion regarding intersection of Hero Way and Ronald Reagan Boulevard.]

DISCUSSION REGARDING INTERSECTION OF HERE AWAY AND RONALD REAGAN BOULEVARD, COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW.

YEAH, THIS IS MINE.

SO HERE'S THE DEAL I'VE BEEN TRYING TO CLOSE THIS INTERSECTION DOWN FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.

UM, IT'S AN INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION.

I KNOW THAT, UH, STOPLIGHT AS FAST, WE'RE GOING TO DO A STOPLIGHT.

WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE THE REAL EXPANSION, BUT HERE'S THE DEAL.

AND THIS IS WHY I DON'T WANT TO GET A FIGHT ABOUT THIS.

I SAT BACK FOR A YEAR AND A HALF AND I'VE CRINGED BECAUSE IT'S ANOTHER FATALITY WAY THAT HAPPENED.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO HOME AGAIN WITHOUT HAVING TO COME UP HERE AND, AND PUT FORTH THE ACTION.

YOU WANT TO

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SAVE LIVES RIGHT THERE.

YOU SHUT THAT MEDIAN DOWN, PEOPLE DIE AND T-BONES TRAFFIC GETS HEAVIER EVERY DAY.

I'VE TALKED TO STAFF, I'VE TALKED TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE.

I, I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE I'M JUST BEING BULLHEADED HERE, SO, UM, PASS DON'T PASS, BUT I'M DOING SOMETHING.

AND SO WHEN THAT FATALITY HAPPENS, I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO LAY MY HEAD DOWN ON MY PILLOW.

SAME THING THAT WE DID WITH THE BIKES.

SO THIS IS NOT AN ACTION ITEM.

WAS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IS THERE, IS IT FAIR TO, YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY, IS THAT FAIR TO GET SOME FEEDBACK THERE TO ASK FOR FEEDBACK FROM, UM, YES, SIR.

AGAIN, DAN GRINSBURG EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO, UM, SO I HAVE, I DO HAVE SOME NOTES AND SOME SLIDES WAY.

SO WAS THAT THE, WAS THAT THE FIRST ONE? IT MUST BE.

SO, UH, A COUPLE, A COUPLE, UM, I GUESS THOUGHTS OR, UH, AND SOME, SOME INFORMATION, UM, IN, IN 2019, THERE WERE 14 REPORTED COLLISIONS WITH ONE DEATH AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER MENTIONED.

AND THEN, UM, SINCE, UH, JANUARY 1ST OF 20 THROUGH DECEMBER 15TH OF 21, THERE HAVE BEEN 19 REPORTED COLLISIONS, UM, OF THOSE 14 WERE NON-INJURY AND FIVE WERE INJURY.

SO, UM, IF YOU KIND OF TAKE THAT BACK, THERE HAS BEEN A, UH, A COLLISION OF SOME KIND OR ANOTHER OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

UM, THEN AUGUST THE FIFTH COUNCIL DID APPROVE FOR THE DESIGN, UM, OF A, OF A, UM, TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THIS, AT THIS INTERSECTION AND, UH, DESIGNS IN PROCESS.

UM, WE'VE WORKED SEE DONE THE SECOND REVIEW AND A, A COST CAME BACK FOR THAT, UM, TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

AND RIGHT NOW, UH, THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATING THAT THE TROPICS KNOW WOULD COST AND ALL RELATED WORK AROUND A $400,409,000.

SO NOT, NOT TOO BAD, UM, REALLY FOR, FOR A COST STANDPOINT.

UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WAS DONE WAS THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WARRANT WAS DONE, AND THAT WAS DONE ON THE 4TH OF FEBRUARY OF 2020, OUT OF THE NINE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WARRANTS THAT COULD BE APPLIED.

UM, THIS ONE MEANT FIVE OF THEM.

NOW, IF A SCHOOL WERE PEDESTRIANS GO THERE, UM, IT COULD BE EASILY MEET TWO MORE SO SEVEN OUT OF THE NINE CRITERIA AS FOR NEEDING A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THAT LIGHT.

UM, SOME OTHER THINGS THAT TO GIVE THOUGHT, AND I HAVE SOME SLIDES TO TALK ABOUT THAT IS THAT, UM, RIGHT, RIGHT.

TURNS, UM, ON A MAJOR ROAD.

UM, SO ONE IS, IS LOOKING AT THIS IS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO WORK IN THIS AREA TO FACILITATE, UM, GETTING A RIGHT TURN, UM, CAUSE EVERYBODY'S NOW GOING TO HAVE TO GO THAT WAY, AND THEN YOU MIGHT NEED AN ACCELERATION LANE GOING INTO THE HIGHWAY.

YOU MIGHT HAVE TO CHANGE THE TRAFFIC OR THE, UH, SPEED LIMIT FOR PEOPLE COMING OUT DIRECTION, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE NOT JUST ONE, BUT MULTIPLE CARS TRYING TO GET ON THERE AND NARROW MOVING AT A VERY SLOW PACE.

SO THAT'S 30 MILES AN HOUR DOWN THAT ROAD.

ARE NOT JUST RANDOMLY WHEN THEY GET HERE, JUST WILLY NILLY MAKING U-TURN, UM, WITHOUT SOME KIND OF, UM, IF YOU WANT TO SAY PROCESS, OKAY.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO, THAT WOULD HAVE TO, SO, SO AT THE END, I'LL KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE THOUGHT PROCESS.

SO, UM, THIS IS, AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

QUEUING IS IMPORTANT THAT IF YOU MAKE EVERYBODY GO RIGHT, IF THEY DON'T THERE AND WE KIND OF LOOKED IN THERE, WE COULD PROBABLY FIND A MEDIA SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT MAYBE DO WITH SOONER, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO BUILD SOMETHING.

BUT RIGHT NOW, IF THEY WENT TO THE NEXT DOWN, IF THEY MADE A RIGHT TURN AND WENT TO THE NEXT LIGHT DOWN, WHICH IS, UM, UH, 2 43 AND RONALD REAGAN, THE GREEN AREA IS THE QUEUING, WHICH IS QUITE A BIT THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR, UM, GOOD FUTURE THINKING WHEN THEY BUILT THAT FOUR LANE HIGHWAY THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO HAVE TURNED.

JERRY, YOU COULD SEE IT ON THE OTHER SIDE, UM, MAKING THAT LEFT TURN IS THERE.

YOU COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE CHANGE IN BETWEEN.

CAUSE I COVERED IT.

I ENDED WITH THE GREEN.

THAT'S WHY I'M SHOWING YOU THIS SIDE AND YOU CAN SEE THE CAR RELAY THAT RELATED TO THE AMOUNT OF Q AND AIR.

SO YOU CAN STACK QUITE A FEW CARS THERE.

SO QE MIGHT BE OKAY AT THE LIGHT.

THE CONCERN WITH THE LIGHT IS, IS NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE WANTING TO MAKE A U-TURN ONCE.

LIKE THIS CAR RIGHT HERE IS DOING.

AND AGAIN, PEOPLE WERE ZIPPING DOWN THIS WAY AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CARS TRYING TO GO DOWN THAT WAY.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE STARTING AT GROUND ZERO, BUT WE HAVE A STOPLIGHT RIGHT THERE.

IF IT'S, IF IT'S GREEN, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE THE GREEN TO GO.

BUT PEOPLE MAKING THAT U-TURN MAY NOT WAIT.

SO WE'D HAVE TO PHASE THE LIGHT.

THAT WAS MY NEXT COMMENT WAS, IS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF WAY TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE

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SO, SO THE POTENTIAL WITH THE LIGHT.

SO MEASURING THE DISTANCE, UM, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THIS LIGHT AND THE NEXT LIGHT DOWN.

SO IF YOU MAKE A RIGHT TURN HERE AND ALL THE WAY DOWN, THAT'S 3000, UM, 400 FEET.

SO ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO GO THAT WAY, WHICH TO THE NEW HEB OR WHATEVER, IT HAS TO GO DOWN 3000, 200 FEET TO THAT LIGHT.

AND THEN BACK, WHICH IS OVER A MILE, A MILE IS 5,280 FEET.

SO THEY HAVE TO GO A MILE OUT OF THEIR WAY.

SO THEY HAVE TO GO TO THAT THING, MAKE A RIGHT THEN GO TO LIGHT AND WAY, AND THEN GO ALL THE WAY DOWN AND ALL THE WAY BACK THAT DRIVES DRIVERS NUTS.

WHEN THEY SEE THAT THERE'S A, IS THAT WE'RE SAVING THE LIFE.

WAIT, WAIT, THAT'S THE WHOLE, WELL, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, SARAH IS THAT IT'S THE DUDE, THAT'S THIS WHOLE FUNCTION, BUT I'M NOT QUITE THERE YET.

AND RONALD REAGAN RIGHT THERE.

SO WE CAN, WE CAN SORT OF GET THERE.

SO THAT'S THE MEASUREMENT OF UP AND BACK.

WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE HEB RIGHT HERE, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY GO TO AND THERE IS THE, THE CORNER THAT 6,000 FEET PLUS IT'S ABOUT 6,400 FEET.

THAT'S HALFWAY TO HEB.

SO IF THEY HAVE TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN, YOU WANT TO GET THE AGB THAT THEY GO ALL THE WAY DOWN AND BACK.

AND IF THEY JUST COULD MAKE A LEFT TURN, THEY WOULD ALREADY BE HALFWAY TO HEB.

TOMMY WENT DOWN AND BACK.

SO SOME THINGS TO THINK ABOUT ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, FORCING DRIVERS TO DO THINGS THAT SEEMS, UM, UNNATURAL TO THEM.

NOT NEAR, NOT IN YOUR PSYCHE.

IF YOU WANT TO THINK THAT LIGHT IS GOING TO HELP THEM MAKE A LEFT TURN AT HERE AWAY THAT LIGHT, THAT LIGHT WILL HELP THEM MAKE A LEFT TURN OUT HERE AWAY.

THAT'S ALL HE'S ASKING THOUGH, RIGHT? HE'S JUST SAYING IN THE ROOM, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN THE INTERIM BEFORE THERE'S A LIGHT FOR SOME OF MY DOGS, WE HAD A TRAINING THEM TO YOUR POINT, CHRIS, WE HAD A FAMILY OF A FATALITY VICTIM THAT SENT US AN EMAIL AND THEN WE WROTE THEM BACK AND WE SAID, THIS IS A DANGEROUS INTERSECTION.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE WORD I'M PARAPHRASING, BUT WE SAID, YEP, WE'VE GOT IT.

WE'VE DONE A LIGHT STUDY WITHIN THIS MORNING STUDY.

WE COUNTED CARS, WENT BACK AND FORTH AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN THIS STOPLIGHT, WELL, HAVEN'T BEEN A SEARCH OR HAVEN'T BEEN A, A MEDICAL HELICOPTER PILOT.

I CAN TELL YOU ONE OF THE MOST HARROWING EVENTS IS LANDING AT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WHERE PEOPLE DIE BECAUSE PEOPLE RUN RED LIGHTS ALL THE TIME.

SO THEY CONTROL THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

DO THEY STOP FATALITIES? THAT'S HARD.

THAT'S A, IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY THAT.

BUT WE CAN, I CAN TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT DIE UNDERNEATH TRAFFIC SANDALS, BUT YOU CAN'T SAY HOW MANY THEY STOPPED.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS SHUT THE THING DOWN, PUT IN 10 STOP LIGHTS RIGHT THERE.

UM, LOOK, I'M RESPONSIBLE TO THE TAXPAYERS MONEY.

I SAID, WE NEED TO LOOK AND WAIT FOR THAT EXPANSION TO GO THROUGH WHICH THAT'S GOING, BUT I LOST, RIGHT? SO THE STOPLIGHTS GOING TO SAY, GO PUT A STOPLIGHT, PUT 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

I DON'T CARE.

SHUT IT DOWN FOR SOME OF MY, UH, DO SOMETHING BEFORE SOMEBODY ELSE DOES.

SO LET ME, LET ME ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN.

AND, AND, AND, AND I BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE YOU WANT AN INTERIM.

SO, UH, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF RUNNING KIND OF THROUGH THE FIRST PART OF THAT WITH ACCELERATION LANES AND DECELERATION LANES AND PEOPLE MAKING RIGHT TURNS, AND THEN, UM, QUIRKY, YOU TURNS AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IS WITHOUT DOING A STUDY.

I CAN'T PREDICT THAT I WON'T CAUSE ANOTHER ACCIDENT BY SHUTTING THE MEDIA DOWN, WHICH COULD CAUSE A DEATH JUST AS EASILY AS THE LIGHT, SOMEBODY RUNNING A RED LIGHT, BECAUSE IT COULD BE A FOGGY DAY AND SOMEONE DOESN'T SEE YOU, THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR LIGHTS OR THEIR BRAKE LIGHTS AREN'T WORKING.

AND THEN THEY REAR END THEM OR ANY NUMBER OF THINGS OR T-BONE THEM THAT, WELL, YOU WOULD SAY THAT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, RIGHT? SO EVERYBODY HAS BASICALLY THREE AXES, RIGHT? WE HAVE FORWARD AND BACK, THE HUMAN BODY DOES REALLY GOOD FOR THEM BACK.

RIGHT? WE GOT UP AND DOWN, RIGHT? OUR BODIES DO OKAY UP AND DOWN.

AND THEN WE GOT TO THE SIDES.

OUR BODIES DO NOT DO GOOD AT THE SITE.

THAT'S WHY YOU SEE PEOPLE THAT ARE STARTING TO THINK IN THE, IN THE FUTURE INSTEAD OF ARCHAIC STOPLIGHTS IN THE PAST, IF YOU GO UP IN THE MIDWEST AND UP NORTH, THEY'RE STARTING TO PUT IN ROUNDABOUTS THAT ACTUALLY ARE FUNCTIONING.

THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS ABSOLUTELY SHUTTING IT DOWN IS THAT IT'S THE OTHER WAY, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T PREDICT THAT SOMEONE PULLING OUT I'M MAKING THAT RIGHT TURN.

THEY'RE EXPENSIVE, BUT THEY FUNCTION AND THEY'RE PUTTING ROUNDABOUTS.

NOT BECAUSE THEY LOOK PRETTIER BECAUSE, BECAUSE THEY KEEP TRAFFIC FLOWING.

SOMEONE PUT STOPLIGHTS BEFORE THE ROUNDABOUTS, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY STOP THE T-BONES BECAUSE THE T-BONES HIT US AT THAT, THAT ACCESS TO OUR SIDE TO SIDE THAT WE'RE NOT, OUR BODIES ARE NOT REALLY GOOD AT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

IF SOMEBODY GETS REAR END, WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET REAR-ENDED, BUT THEY'LL SURVIVE.

THE ODDS ARE THE STATISTICS SAY THAT T-BONES KILL PEOPLE.

REAR ENDS JUST GET LAWSUITS BECAUSE A LAWYERS GET INVOLVED BECAUSE OF WHIPLASH AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I'M JUST TELLING YOU TO SOMEBODY THAT'S EXPERIENCED THIS.

I GET IT.

PEOPLE THINK STOP ARE GOING TO STOP.

THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE JUST NOT WELL DRIVERS UNDERSTAND HOW STOPLIGHT WORDS.

AND SO IT MAKES SENSE TO THEM.

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AND WHEN THEY'RE FIRST OUT, SOMEONE COMING UP, DOESN'T SEE HIM IN THE FALL OR SOMETHING.

AND THEN T-BONES HIM THE SAME WAY AS IF THEY WERE JUST GOING STRAIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD.

IT'S A, IT'S THE SAME ACTION.

THE PROBLEM WITH SHUTTING IT OFF IS I'M NOW I'M DIVERTING TRAFFIC IN A MANNER THAT WASN'T DESIGNED THAT WAY.

AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE OUTCOME WOULD BE IF WE DON'T DO AT LEAST TRAFFIC COUNTS AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY DO BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION.

UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO SEE WHAT KIND OF BARRIERS YOU NEED TO PUT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T DRIVE AROUND.

THAT'S THE COUNT GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN AS A QUARTER MILE UP THE ROAD.

I'M IN THE CARS, THERE'S CARS, AND THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO BETWEEN THAT STOPLIGHT AND THAT INTERSECTION.

YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE THE WARRANT STUDY.

YOU ALREADY GOT THE NUMBERS.

WELL, THE, THE INTERSECTION AT 2243, YOU'VE GOT ALL THE TRAFFIC COMING BACK IN FROM GEORGETOWN.

AND IT'S A MESS AT THAT INTERSECTION DURING RUSH HOUR.

I MEAN, A MESS.

IT'S A MESS AT EVERY INTERSECTION IN THE CITY, EVERY INTERSECTION ISN'T, I'M JUST SAYING YOU'RE ADDING MORE TRAFFIC TO THAT NEXT.

IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THEN NO, UH, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

I KNEW THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF TRYING TO PROVIDE THE SUPPLIES.

AND A FEW COMMENTS WAS TO, YOU KNOW, UH, JUST KIND OF ITERATE.

I KNOW THE IMPORTANCE AND THEN SOMEONE DID PASS AWAY THERE.

AND I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A STEP FURTHER HOW LONG THAT INTERSECTION HAS BEEN THERE.

AND ONE DEATH IS ONE TOO MANY.

UM, BUT IF THAT WAS ONE DEATH OVER 15 YEARS AND FROM A RISK ANALYSIS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, NO DEATHS IS ACCEPTABLE, BUT IN A RISK ANALYSIS, I SAID, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.

UM, FROM THAT STANDPOINT NOW I DIDN'T DO THAT RESEARCH.

I ONLY WENT BACK, UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS IN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WHICH WE DO HAVE SOME ACCIDENTS THERE OCCUR ABOUT ONCE A MONTH.

SO IT DOESN'T NEED ACTION.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ABSOLUTELY.

UM, FROM THIS PERSON'S STANDPOINT, THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, UM, SEEMS TO, FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, THE TRAFFIC LIGHT TO ME AS A ENGINEER MAKES MORE SENSE THAN A RIGHT TURN.

NOW WE CAN MAKE THE RIGHT TURN WORK, BUT WE'D HAVE TO, WE, WE NEED TO DO TO DUE DILIGENCE AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

WE CAN USE SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE DID ON THE WARRANT, UM, FOR THE STUDY TO SEE HOW WE WOULD HAVE TO LAY OUT AND MANAGE THE TRAFFIC, GOING DOWN TO THAT NEXT LIGHT, DOING A U-TURN AND THEN COMING BACK AND SO FORTH.

AND WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN, DO WE NEED TO HAVE ACCELERATION LANES, UM, INSTALLED AT THE RIGHT TURN AND AT THE U-TURN UM, DO WE NEED TO HAVE DIFFERENT PHASES OF THE LIGHT? UM, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE SIGNAGE TO INDICATE TO PEOPLE THAT, HEY, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN ONLY AND YOU HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN.

AND, UM, CAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE OF SPOTS IN RONALD REAGAN WHERE PEOPLE DRIVE ACROSS THE MEDIA, THROUGH THE GRASS THAT'S SCHEDULED TO, TO BE, AND WE ARE DOING RIGHT AND WE HAVE TWO QUESTIONS AND WE ARE, IF THAT'S THE ASK ABOUT THE CORRIDOR STUDY THAT IS IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW TO DO THE COURT.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO THIS LIGHT WILL NOT GO NOT START OR NOT BEGIN UNTIL THAT'S I COMPLETED NO, THAT LIGHT'S GOING TO GO IN AS SOON AS WE'RE DONE WITH THE, SO WHEN DO WE THINK WE'LL, WE'LL START CONSTRUCTION ON THAT LIGHT.

WE'RE IN THE SECOND REVIEW OF THE ACTUAL DESIGN.

AND, UM, AND I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT, BUT THE STAFF IS LOOKING AT IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, UM, I WOULDN'T, WE HAVE TO PUT IT OUT FOR BID AND THEN SEE WHAT WE GET.

AND HOPEFULLY WITH THIS MONTHS AWAY, IT IS MONTHS AWAY.

SO IS THERE, IS IT REASONABLE IN YOUR OPINION TO IT, AS OPPOSED TO SHUTTING IT DOWN SIGNAGE, AS YOU MENTIONED, JUST TO DO A, A RIGHT TURN ONLY, AND IT'S NOT BLOCKED OFF, SO THERE'S NOT A, A STOP, BUT JUST SUGGESTING.

BUT IT'S A RIGHT TURN ONLY.

YEAH, NO, THEY WON'T.

THE PEOPLE WILL JUST ABSOLUTELY IGNORE THAT SIGN.

I MEAN, NOT EVERYBODY BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE VERY RE-ORIENTED OR LAW ENFORCED CONSCIENCE AND THEY WILL MAKE THE RIGHT TURN AND ACT.

AND THEN THE WHOLE WAY THEY'RE DRIVING TO THE LIGHT WILL GO, WHY AM I DOING THIS? CAUSE I COULD WENT STRAIGHT, BUT, UM, BUT THEY'LL FOLLOW THE RULES, BUT YOU WILL HAVE MAJORITY.

SO AGAIN, THEY CAN GET A TICKET FOR THAT.

WELL, HOW MANY PEOPLE SPEED ALL THE TIME? YEAH, THEY DO.

AND HE CALLS ACCESS TO IT'S SOMETHING ELSE.

SO I'M ASKING, IS THAT A REASONABLE COMPROMISE? BECAUSE YOU'RE SUGGESTING WE DON'T DO ONE AND WE HAVE TO WAIT TO THE OTHER, HE WANTS TO COMPLETELY SHUT IT OFF.

WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST AS A COMPROMISE, UH, THAT WE EXPEDITE PUTTING THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN? YES.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

AND I BELIEVE ON THAT.

YOU'RE GONNA ASK ME THAT'S MY ANSWER.

YOU KNOW, PUTTING A SIGN IN SAYING TURN RIGHT WHEN THEY, WHEN THE, WHEN THE, UH, INTERSECTIONS WIDE OPEN IS JUST ASKING FOR TROUBLE.

I BELIEVE WHEN WE GO OUT TO BID ON THAT, WE'RE ALSO PAIRING THAT WITH THE LIGHT FOR SUNNY AND BAGHDAD.

IS THAT CORRECT?

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NO.

WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT THE, THIS IS A SPECIAL ONE BECAUSE IT HAD EMPHASIS BECAUSE OF THE DEATH AND STUFF TO MOVE THIS ONE FORWARD INDEPENDENTLY OF THE OTHER LIGHTS THAT WERE CAUSE IT THERE'S A COUPLE OF WARRANTS THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS FOR TRYING TO DO THE OTHER LIGHTS.

THIS LIGHT WAS LOOKED AT AND APPROVED FOR DESIGN TO MOVE IT FORWARD BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT I WAS ALSO APPROVED.

AND WHEN IT WENT OUT TO BID, IT CAME BACK AT, YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO LOOK FOR BUNDLE.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT SOME, IT'S NOT BUNDLING WITH THIS.

UM, I DIDN'T, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF EXPEDITING, I DIDN'T WANT TO MUDDY THE WATER, TRYING TO GO AND ADDING ANOTHER LIGHT IN TRYING TO GET THIS LIGHT DONE BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE, EVEN TO INCLUDE THE DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING TODAY, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TO EXPEDITE THIS LIGHT? UM, WELL IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE THAT THE BIG COMES BACK HIGH OR SOMETHING AND WE MIGHT BE COMING BACK AND SAYING, OKAY, WE NEED, WE NEED MONEY.

AND MAYOR, I WILL TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT THAT WE DO HAVE THE, THE WARRANT DONE.

UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE ACTUAL DESIGN DONE FOR SONNY AND BAGHDAD AND I'LL FIND OUT AND IF WE CAN COMBINE THEM BECAUSE THEY DID DO THE BID YOU'RE RIGHT.

THEN MAYBE WE'LL DO THAT.

SEE IF WE CAN SQUEEZE OUT IN.

BUT THE EMPHASIS WAS TO GET THIS LIGHT FINISHED IN AN EXPEDITIOUS MANNER.

FABULOUS.

UM, I KNOW THAT THIS CORRIDOR HAS LOTS OF PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE CROSSING THE MEDIAN, UM, WHERE IT'S COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE.

WE PUT UP SIGNS, THEY'RE STILL DOING IT.

WE'VE GOT TRAFFIC POLICE OUT THERE AND THEY'RE STILL CATCHING PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.

AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE NOT CATCHING.

UM, SO I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE DEFINITELY CONCERNS WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S A FLOW THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

UH, NO PATIENTS TO DRIVE A HALF A MILE OR THE WAY, AND THEN DRIVE BACK.

SO THOUGH I'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF MEDIAS AND PART OF THE STUDY AND WHEN WE HAD THE TALK, THE, UH, UH, IF YOU WANT TO SAY THE PRE-CON WITH THE, UH, DESIGNER WAS TO LOOK AT, DO WE NEED TO PUT, UM, SOME, YOU TURN SPOTS FOR PEOPLE, UM, IN BETWEEN THOSE LONG SPOTS SO THAT THEY DON'T DRIVE ACROSS THE MEDIA, LOOKING FOR A SHORTCUT.

AND THEN THERE THERE'LL BE DESIGNED RIGHT WITH DECELERATION LANES AND ACCELERATION LANES AND, AND SO FORTH, BUT A WAY TO BETTER MANAGE THE TRAFFIC ON THAT CORRIDOR.

SO WHEN WE TALKED WITH THAT SIGN COMPANY, WE LET HIM KNOW THAT VERY THING WAS AS IT WAS A COUPLE OF THOSE.

AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE THANK YOU.

I THINK THERE'S ALSO SOME SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE COULD MAKE ADMINISTRATIVELY.

UM, THERE ARE COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING OUT OF HERO ONTO REAGAN, UM, AND THE GAS STATION THAT'S THERE ON THE CORNER.

THERE'S BIG RIGS THAT PARK ALONG REAGAN NEXT TO THE GAS STATION AND IT BLOCKS THE VIEW OF ONCOMING TRAFFIC.

AND I THINK MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF COULD LOOK AT ADMINISTRATIVELY CREATING A NO PARKING AREA, AND MAYBE THERE ARE OTHER THINGS, WELL, THERE'S ALREADY THERE.

MAYBE, MAYBE WE NEED ENFORCEMENT.

UM, OR, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT, UM, STAFF OR TRAFFIC CAN TAKE A LOOK AT AND SEE WHERE THERE'S SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD BE MADE IN THE INTERIM, THAT WOULD BE AN EASY FIX WHILE WE WAIT.

I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA.

A QUICK STUDY, A HIGH-LEVEL ONE TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT I CALL, UM, FAILURE, UH, FLAW FLAWS, OR A FAILURE, A SINGLE POINTS OF FAILURE.

THE, UM, I AGREE, MARY WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT.

AND SO, UM, UH, AGAIN, I'M NOT HERE TO SAY ONE WAY, I'M JUST TRYING TO PRESENT DATA AND FACTUAL INFORMATION AND SOME THOUGHTS THAT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE CONSIDERED WHEN, WHEN THINKING ABOUT, UM, THE DIRECTION WE'RE TRYING TO GO.

WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL? NO, IF THERE'S, IS THERE KATHERINE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I JUST WANT TO, I'M GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE JASON'S ART.

THAT'S ALL LIKE, I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW WHERE HE'S COMING FROM.

HE'S TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME AND I, AND I APPRECIATE IT.

AND I LIKE, I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO SAY YOU, YOU DID EVERYTHING THAT YOU COULD DO ON THIS SITUATION TOO.

UM, AND SAY IT PUBLICLY AND SAY THAT IT WOULD ALSO BE TO MAKE A DECISION THAT I HAVE NO INFORMATION ON, AND I'M NOT THAT PROFESSIONAL.

AND THEN WE'RE COUNTING ON YOU GUYS TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE PROBLEM.

WHAT'S THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY TO, TO, UH, TO SOLVE THIS, OR WHAT'S THE BEST POSSIBLE THE TRACK FORWARD.

YOU'VE CLEARLY SAID THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S EXPEDITING AS FAST AS POSSIBLE THAT, THAT RED LIGHT, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, OR FORTUNATELY IN BOTH OF THOSE THINGS, I'M GOING TO TAKE YOUR, TAKE YOUR ADVICE BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALSO CHANGING SOMETHING THAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE OF THAT TOO.

SO THAT IT PUTS, IT PUTS US IN A TOUGH SPOT.

BUT I THINK THAT WE, I'M JUST HERE TO SAY THIS, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY PUBLICLY THAT YOU'D DONE IT.

YOU CAN, WELL, WE COULD DO IF WE WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, UM, AND, UM, SPEND SOME, SOME FUNDS ON IT IS A, WE COULD PROBABLY EXIT IT BY EXPEDITE PRETTY QUICKLY, AND I'D HAVE TO WORK WITH ROBERT AND SAID MAGIC, BUT I MEAN, WE COULD DO A, AN OVERARCHING STUDY TO SEE WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES, YOU KNOW, I'M UP HERE, MAKE US A THOUGHT PROCESS, BUT WE COULD HAVE SOME REAL PROFESSIONALS LOOK AT IT.

IF WE CLOSE OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND DO THIS AND KIND OF AN OVERHEAD, A HIGHER LEVEL.

UM, SO WE HAVE SOME REAL DATA, MUCH LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE OAK CREEK LET'S GET REAL DATA, A SET OF, UH, ANECDOTICAL KIND OF THOUGHTS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY DO A,

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AND IN THAT PLAN THAT MIGHT BE POINTED OUT BY, UH, AND WHAT I WOULD SAY, TRANSPORTATION EXPERT THAT SAYS, YEAH, YOU KNOW, GOOD AND THOUGHT, BUT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

THEY'RE ALL OVER THE CITY, 180 3, 8 AND 2243.

THAT'S JUST A, THAT THAT'S A FATALITY WAITING TO HAPPEN AS THEY COME 60 MILES AN HOUR, YOU COME OFF THE TOLL WAY.

AND THEN I ACTUALLY TOOK MY DAUGHTER WHEN I WAS TEACHING TO DRIVE.

I TOOK HER UNDERSTAND.

I SAID, WATCH, THIS IS ONE, YOU CANNOT TRUST A GREEN LIGHT BECAUSE THEY JUST, THAT JUST, YOU NEVER TRUST THE GREEN LIGHT.

THAT'S ALL MY KIDS, THE SAME THING.

EVERY TIME I GO, I STOPPED, EVEN THOUGH I GOT A GREEN LIGHT, PEOPLE WERE LIKE HONKING HORNS, LIKE VERA UP NORTH OR WHATEVER, BUT, UM, MAYBE DO THAT ALL OVER.

AND SO I'M PART OF THE CORRIDOR STUDY IS THAT, UM, REALISTICALLY AND THE COUNCIL APPROVED IT, WHICH HAS ALREADY REDUCED A SECTION OF THAT CORRIDOR TO 45 MILES AN HOUR.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT 45 MILES AN HOUR AND THE OTHER AREAS TO ON THAT CORRIDOR FOR RONALD REAGAN, AS PART OF THE CORRIDOR STUDY, TO SEE WHAT THE TRAFFIC SPEED SHOULD REALLY BE ACROSS THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE, UM, CORRIDOR.

AND, UM, I HAVE A FEELING THAT WILL BE REDUCED IN SOME, UM, EQUAL MANNER THAT MAKES, THAT MAKES SENSE, BUT WE CAN RUN IT IF YOU WANT TO TRY TO TAKE SOME, SOME ACTION, WHICH I THINK IT WOULD BE PREVALENT AS WE COULD DO A HIGH LEVEL STUDY TO SEE WHAT THE FATAL FLAWS MIGHT BE, IF ANY, AND WE CAN BRING THAT BACK.

WE'LL PROBABLY DO THAT IN PRETTY SHORT ORDER.

I THINK IT MIGHT BE WORTH THE EFFORT.

WE CAN'T TAKE THAT ACTION TONIGHT.

THIS IS ON THE AGENDA AS A DISCUSSION ONLY.

SO IS THERE AN INTEREST IN BRINGING THIS BACK AS, UH, AN ACTION ITEM TO DO A STUDY OF THAT SORT? I SEE ONE HEAD NODDING ON THIS SIDE.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO GET A GOOD SENSE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, BUT I DON'T, UM, I DON'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN THE, SO I THINK, UM, TO HELP HELP THE GROUP OUT AND MAYBE, UM, DORA AND THE CITY MANAGER CAN TELL ME IF I'M NOT ALIGNED, BUT THE CITY MANAGER HAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY, IF YOU WANT TO SAY, AND HE CAN DIRECT HIS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO TAKE ACTION.

AND SO, UM, I THINK THE CITY MANAGER CAN LOOK AT ME AND SAY, DAN GRINS, WE'LL TAKE FOR ACTION AND I'M ON IT.

SO WE'LL WORK THAT WITHIN MY EXPENDITURE AUTHORITY IS ANYTHING THAT, ANYTHING WITH THE, WITH THE MOST RECENTLY DISCUSSED POSSIBLE STUDY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT? IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT GOING TO CHANGE THE, UH, THE RED LIGHT OR THE STOPLIGHT AT THAT LOCATION? NOPE.

SO THEN I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED TO DO THE QUICKEST THING, THE COST OF LICENSE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO HURRY UP AND WE'LL DO A HIGH LEVEL STUDY.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING ANYWAYS.

SO, AND I THINK, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW IS EXACTLY CORRECT.

WE CAN USE, UH, THE WARRANT AND, UM, ON SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC INFORMATION TO FACILITATE THAT HIGH LEVEL, HAVE A LEVEL BOOK, JUST TO MAKE SURE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY, I DIDN'T THINK THAT THROUGH ALL THE WAY I MISSED THIS OR THAT.

ENTIRE THREE MINUTES, BUT THAT'S ALL I WANT TO DO.

I GOT IT.

I'M SEEING SOME HANDS RAISING FROM THE GALLERY.

NOBODY HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME UP, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL NEED YOU TO FILL OUT A SPEAKER'S CARD WITH THE CITY SECRETARY.

SO DAVID MCDONALD, SECOND MEETING, SECOND TIME TO SPEAK, UH, 24 16 LA MORADA AND PALMER RIDGE.

SO THAT'S MY QUESTION.

YOU COUNCILMAN SHAWL, IF YOU SAT DOWN THERE AND MAKE IT A RIGHT TURN ONLY ONTO ON A REAGAN FROM HERE AWAY, WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO OUR, TO DUE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S NO BACK AND FORTH DURING COMMENTS.

SO THAT'S A CONCERN.

THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE LARGE VEHICLES THAT GO DOWN HERE AWAY FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND THAT NATURE.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO LOOK AT AS A CITY WHAT'S THAT GONNA DO TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? BECAUSE WE HAVE SCHOOL BUSES WITH HIS SMALL CHILDREN.

IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE PLAY, WHERE ELSE HAVE A MINUTE, A MINUTE YOU CENTER.

SO IT'S GOING TO JUST, YOU KNOW, IT PROVIDES ANOTHER ROUTE TO GET AROUND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN MY OPINION.

SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WE HAD LOOK AT THAT.

I'M REALLY NOT REALLY BIG ON PROLONGING PUTTING THE STOPLIGHT UP.

I AGREE WITH YOU, THOSE T-BONE COLLISIONS VERY, VERY DANGEROUS.

SOMETIMES THE IMPACT ON THOSE, YOU CAN KILL A PERSON EASIER THAN YOU CAN ON ANY OTHER TOPIC CLOSURE, BECAUSE THE BODY'S NOT DESIGNED FOR THAT.

I AGREE WITH ALL THAT WITH MY BACKGROUND.

SO I JUST DON'T THINK MAKING A RIGHT TURN ONLY WITH THE THINGS THE BE THE ENGINEER POINTED OUT.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE THAT MUCH OF AN IMPACT IN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, WHERE SAFETY WITHIN OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY WITH DIVERTING MORE TRAFFIC INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I DON'T THINK I NEED TO TAKE THE

[02:05:01]

PLEASE FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD FROM THE LIBRARY OR FROM THE LOBBY AND GIVE IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY.

YES, MA'AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

KATE.

I GOT KATE MCDONALD, 24 16 LAMA RADA.

I ALSO LIVE IN PARRAMATTA RIDGE WITH MY HUSBAND.

SHE JUST HEARD FROM MY ONLY COMMENT IS, UM, WHEN WE TALKED TO SERGEANT DOYLE AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND TALKED ABOUT OUR TRAFFIC CONCERNS, HE WAS VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION.

OUR COMMUNITY REALLY ENJOYED HEARING FROM IT HAD ON YOUTUBE.

EVERYBODY PARTICIPATED IS REALLY GOOD.

UM, MY CONCERN IS THAT HE ONLY HAD THREE TRAFFIC OFFICERS AND WITH THE CAPACITY OF OUR POPULATION COMPARED TO CEDAR PARK, THE RATIOS WEREN'T ALIGNED IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.

SO IF OUR GROWTH TRAJECTORY IS GOING TO GO UP, IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE HIM HAVING MORE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO HIM.

THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.

27 CLOSING COMMENTS OUT OF ORDER.

PLEASE FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD FROM THE LOBBY AND GIVE IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY.

WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.

COUNSEL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I THINK THE DECISION IS WHETHER TO EXPEDITE THE LIGHT OR TO COME BACK WITH A STUDY.

IS THAT ACCURATELY? I THINK THE, UH, THE C MANAGER AND I WILL WE'LL WORK THE DETAILS.

YEP.

SO WE HAVE FRACTIONS, W WE'LL FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S ANY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WITH ANY, ANYTHING.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I JUST WANT TO LET THAT WHOLE, I GET IT THAT I WISH WE COULD HAVE IT BACK AND FORTH.

WE DO HAVE A TOWN HALL ONCE A QUARTER BECAUSE THAT COMMUNICATION IS KEY, RIGHT? THAT WHOLE AREA IS BIG.

THAT WHOLE INTERSECTION IS FICTION.

AND I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT FOREVER IS HAPPENING, IS THAT, AND I KNEW WHAT THAT MEANT BECAUSE I'M IN THE BACKGROUND PUSHING FOR IT TO HAPPEN.

SO IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SO THAT HOPEFULLY HOPEFULLY GOING FORWARD, AND THIS IS DARE BY ATLANTA.

TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT WELL THOUGHT OUT.

AND SO HOPEFULLY NOW WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THE WAY WE'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS, THINGS ARE GOING TO GET BETTER.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME, BUT HOPEFULLY THEY'LL GET BETTER.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR INTENT.

UM, COUNSEL, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, I'D LIKE TO TAKE ITEM

[27. Council Member Closing Statements.]

BEFORE WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN CASE WE'RE IN THERE LATE, WE CAN GET THESE OUT OF THE WAY NOW, UM, BEFOREHAND, ANY OBJECTIONS.

LET'S START WITH PLACE.

WOW.

PRETEND HAPPY HOLIDAYS, EVERYONE.

AND PROMPT YOU, UM, WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, CHIEF MENTON AND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE AWARDS EVENTS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ATTEND LAST WEEK.

I THINK THAT WAS THE, TO UNDERSTAND THE FIRST TIME IN TWO YEARS, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T DO IT LAST YEAR, SO IT'S BEEN AWHILE.

SO THAT WAS QUITE A TREAT.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE BEING, BEING A PART OF THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

UM, AND SO JUST WHEN I SAY IT'S, THIS IS THE END OF THE YEAR FOR US, FOR THE COUNCIL.

AND IT IS TRULY BEEN A, AN HONOR AND A BLESSING TO SERVE OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY OF LEANDER.

AND JUST WANT TO WISH YOU ALL A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND JOYFUL, PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR AND A BIG, HUGE THANKS TO ALL THE STAFF, BECAUSE WE COULD NOT DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT THE STAFF.

WE REALLY, WE RELY ON Y'ALL SO MUCH.

AND I THINK WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL STAFF.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT, WHAT YOU DO HAVE A GOOD NIGHT PLACE TO CAT CAT HOWL SAID THIS EARLIER TONIGHT, BUT IN CASE YOU GUYS MISSED THIS LEANDRA IS PARTICIPATING IN WREATHS ACROSS AMERICA, STARTING AT 11 ON SATURDAY.

SO HOPE TO SEE YOU GUYS OUT THERE AND MERRY CHRISTMAS TO THOSE WHO CELEBRATE PLEASE.

SO I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING I DON'T DO.

I'M GOING TO GIVE HIM A SHOUT OUT TO HIM ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

WE'LL NEVER DO THIS AND NEVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT I'M GOING TO PUBLIC ACKNOWLEDGE.

I, UH, I Y OTHER MILITARY WIVES WERE GETTING EXOTIC LOCATIONS LIKE JAPAN OR HAWAII.

I WAS PULLING HER TO THE MIDDLE OF NORTH CAROLINA AND ALABAMA AND FORT HOOD, TEXAS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NICE SANDY BEACHES AND CLEAN.

UM, SHE ENDURED AN ENDORSE ME BECAUSE I'M, EVERYBODY KNOWS IF YOU'VE BEEN WATCHING COUNCIL MEETINGS LONG ENOUGH THAT I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF FIGHT IN ME.

AND SO SHE'S PUT UP WITH THAT AND SHE'S, SHE'S HELPED ME.

SHE'S GONE THROUGH, UH, SIX COMBAT DEPLOYMENTS.

UH, SHE TOOK CARE OF MY GIRLS BY HERSELF.

UM, AND THEN HERE IN TODAY'S THE 16 HERE AND 13 DAYS, WE'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE 27 YEARS.

SO SHE HAS TOLERATED ME FOR 27 YEARS, AND I LOVE HER DEARLY AND, UH, APOLOGIZE FOR THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS OF HER BEING SACRIFICED FOR THIS.

UM, BUT SHE'S A GOOD SPORT.

SHE UNDERSTANDS.

SO I LOVE

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HER.

I LOVE YOU, HONEY.

I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SAY WHATEVER.

HE'S NOT GOING TO SAY.

AND THIS IS SHE'S.

SHE IS MY ROCK AND SHE'S AWESOME.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY.

SO, UH, HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

THANK YOU FOR THE BIRTHDAY WISHES.

EVERYBODY MERRY CHRISTMAS.

AND, UH, I HAVE AN AWESOME WIFE TOO, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO UPSTAGE THAT.

SO THANK YOU, EVERYBODY PLAY SPORT WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY FOR HOSTING OUR FIRST, UH, MLK DAY PARADE AND STREET FESTIVAL.

SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO MARK YOUR CALENDAR MONDAY, JANUARY 17TH, COME OUT AND CELEBRATE MLK DAY WITH THIS.

ARE GOING TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO A SECTION 5 5 1 0.072 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY AND B SECTION 5 51 0.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND SECTION 1.05 TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING CAPITAL METRO TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY, ELECTION, AND CONTRACTING MATTERS.

AND, UH, IN OUR QUEST TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT LOCAL LEANDER BUSINESSES DINNER TONIGHT, IT WAS PROVIDED BY CHICK-FIL-A.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CHICK-FIL-A PLEASE REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE OUT DOING YOUR HOLIDAY SHOPPING TO SHOP WHENEVER YOU CAN, AND LEANDER AND HIT OUR LOCAL RESTAURANTS, BECAUSE KEEPING YOUR TAX DOLLARS IN THE COMMUNITY IS SUPER HELPFUL FOR EVERYBODY.

UM, I ALSO WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WREATHS ACROSS AMERICA EVENT.

THE SATURDAY 11:00 AM AT BAGHDAD CEMETERY.

IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

SO FEEL FREE TO COME ON OUT.

IT'S GOING TO BE BEAUTIFUL.

UM, ALSO, UM, TONIGHT ON THE AGENDA, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK ONLINE SOMETIMES BEFORE OUR MEETINGS TO SEE LIKE WHAT'S GETTING BUZZED AND THERE WERE NO EMAILS IN AND NOTHING ONLINE ABOUT A COUPLE OF ITEMS TONIGHT.

AND SO THERE WERE ALL THE BCRA PROJECTS AND, UM, I'M THRILLED THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THOSE EXPANSIONS.

AND, UM, JUST WANTED TO GIVE A HUGE SHOUT OUT TO ALL OF THE VARIOUS STAFF THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THOSE TALKS FOR MONTHS AND KNOW THAT THAT'S MIND BOGGLING AMOUNT OF COORDINATION AND STRESS.

UM, AND I'M SURE YOU ALL COULD FEEL THE STRESS FROM US TODAY.

SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR YOU.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR EFFORTS.

UM, AND ALSO AS COUNCILMAN THOMPSON JUST MENTIONED, UM, OUR FIRST EVER MLK PARADE IS NEXT MONTH, JANUARY 17TH.

AND, UH, WHAT SHE DID NOT MENTION WAS THAT SHE HAS SPEARHEADED THIS EFFORT, AND I AM SO PROUD OF WHAT YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED IN SUCH A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

UM, I ALSO WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE PROTIME ROSS FOR SOME WORK THAT SHE'S BEEN DOING BEHIND THE SCENES WITH CAP METRO LATELY.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT, BUT I'M GLAD THAT YOU DO IT.

AND ALSO THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, UM, SHE HAS BEEN ME IN MY ABSENCE, UM, AND YOU'VE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH THE HARD STUFF UP HERE AND THE FUN STUFF ON STAGE AT THE TREE LIGHTING.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SORT OF, UM, JUMPING IN AT THE LAST MINUTE, A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND BEING PREPARED OTHER TIMES THAT, UM, YOU WERE JUST READY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN YOU SIT UP HERE, YOU ALWAYS HOPE THAT YOU NEVER HAVE TO MAKE THAT CALL, BUT I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WHEN I HAD TO MAKE THAT CALL, THAT I HAD SOMEBODY AS AMAZING AND PREPARED AND READY TO HOLD DOWN THE FORT AS PRETEND ROS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND LASTLY, I WOULD BE REMISS NOT TO WISH EVERYBODY A VERY HAPPY AND SAFE HOLIDAYS, AND WE'LL SEE YOU ALL NEXT YEAR WITH THAT.

[26. Convene into Executive Session pursuant to: (a) Section 551.072, Texas Government Code, to deliberate the purchase, exchange, lease, or value of real property; and (b) Section 551.071, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05, Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding Capital Metropolitan Transportation Authority election and contracting matters; and (c) Section 551.074, Texas Government Code, to discuss or deliberate the appointment, employment, evaluation, reassignment, duties, discipline, or dismissal of a public officer or employee: city manager. Reconvene into open session to take action as deemed appropriate in the City Council's discretion regarding: (a) exchange, purchase, lease or value of real property; and (b) Capital Metropolitan Transportation Authority; and (c) city manager.]

AND SEE SECTION 5, 5 1 0 7, 4 TEXAS GOVERNMENT COACH DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE, THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE, OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE CITY MANAGER.

WE ARE CONVENED INTO.

WE ARE CONVENING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 8:26 PM.

RIGHT? OKAY.

WE ARE RECONVENED AT 11:01 PM TO TAKE ACTION AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE IN THE CITY COUNCIL'S DISCRETION REGARDING A SECTION 5 5, 1 0.072 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY.

PRETEND DO YOU HAVE EMOTION? NO ACTION.

B SECTION 5, 5, 1 0.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE IN SECTION 1.05, TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING CAPITAL AND METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY, ELECTION, AND CONTRACTING MATTERS.

PRETEND YOU HAVE A MOTION TO BRING UP BACK ON JANUARY 6TH, 2022 CITY COUNCIL AGENDA BALLOT LANGUAGE FOR CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL ELECTION REGARDING CAPITAL METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION, AUTHORITY SERVICE, AND A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH CAPITOL METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY.

FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL LEANDER CITIZENS, YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES, UNANIMOUSLY PRETEND.

DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER MOTION

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FOR THAT ONE? NO, IT WAS JUST ONE.