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THIS IS THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING
[1. Call to Order.]
OF THE LEANDRA PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.I HAVEN'T, WHAT'S IT CALLED ORDER? ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT.
I REMEMBER THREE, THE DIRECTORS
[3. Director’s report to the Planning & Zoning Commission on actions taken by the City Council at the January 20, 2022 meeting]
REPORT.TAKEN BY THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE JANUARY 20TH MEETING, UM, THEY HAD ONE ITEM THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED BY THE COMMISSION.
THEY HELD THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE FOR THE ZONING CHANGE FOR THE HERITAGE GROVE MINOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THEY DID APPROVE THAT UNANIMOUSLY AND THAT'S IT FROM OUR REPORT.
[4. Review of meeting protocol.]
A REVIEW OF THE MEETING PROTOCOL ON THE WALL.YOU WILL SEE THE PROTOCOL FOR HOW WE CONDUCT OUR MEETINGS.
UM, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS ON THE AGENDA, WE'LL ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CARD AND BRING IT TO OUR ATTENTION.
[5. Citizen Comments: Three (3) minutes allowed per speaker. [Please turn in speaker request form before the meeting begins.]]
CITIZENS COMMENTS.IS THERE ANY PERSON WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM? NOT ON THE AGENDA.
WE'LL CLOSE IT AS AND THOMAS MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA
[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
ITEMS 6, 7, 8, AND NINE.DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'LL HEAR THEM NOW.
IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER MAY 2ND.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY SOME DISTANT VOICE DOWN FRONT.
I THINK THE COMMISSIONER, A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.
[10. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-026 to amend the current zoning of SFU/MH-2-B (Single-Family Urban/Manufactured Home) to create the Sky Heights PUD (Planned Unit Development) with a base zoning of SFT-2-B (Single-Family Townhouse) on one parcel of land approximately 2.68 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R036438; legally described as Lot 3, Blk A, Leander Heights Section 2; and more commonly known as 415 Lion Dr, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-026 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]
ITEM 10, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZILLION CASE 21 Z 0 2 6.TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING TO SFU CA SLASH M H TO BE SINGLE FAMILY URBAN MANUFACTURED HOME TO CREATE THE SKY HEIGHTS PUBLIC WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF S F T TO BE SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOME ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 2.68 PLUS OR MINUS MINUS ACRES IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT AS PARCEL ARE 0 3 6 4, 3 8.
LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT THREE BLOCK, A LEANDRA HEIGHTS SECTION TWO AND MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS FOUR 15 LINE DRIVE LEANDRA WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS WE'LL HAVE STAFF PRESENTATION.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS SAY THE OWNER IS SKY HEIGHTS, SENTARA, UH, SINGLE ON BEHALF OF DAN AND REAL ESTATE, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THEY SHOULD BE HERE WITH A, A TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
UM, SO THE PROPOSED ZONING TONIGHT IS A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, UH, WITH THE BASE ZONING OF SFT TO BE SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 4 1 5 LION DRIVE, AS YOU STATED, UH, AND IS APPROXIMATELY 2.68 ACRES TONIGHT'S MEETING IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO MATCH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE WEST, WHICH IS LEANDER TOWNHOMES ALSO APPLIED AND, UH, PROVIDE CONTINUITY OF HOME TYPES IN THE AREA.
SO OUTLINE, UH, SOME ZONING IN THE AREA TO THE NORTH IS SFU TWO B, AND THAT IS THE CHRISTINE CAMACHO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO THE EAST IS GC THREE C UH, IT'S A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
I BELIEVE IT'S AUTOMOTIVE AND TRANSMISSION.
UH, THERE'S ALSO A, UH, ZONING, UH, WHICH IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
UH, IT WAS MONTERRA RANCH TO THE SOUTH.
YOU HAVE MF TWO B, WHICH IS A VACANT LOT.
THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON THERE.
AND ALSO, UH, TF B, WHICH IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT AT THE MOMENT TO THE WEST IS THE AFOREMENTIONED PUD.
UH, IT IS MULTIFAMILY AND IT IS A MUNICIPAL DRIVE TOWNHOME PUD.
UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM MUNICIPAL DRIVE, UH, AND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTHWEST DRIVE AND LION DERIVE, UH, THE PROPERTY CONTAINED SCATTERED TREES ACROSS THE LOT AND IS, UH, CURRENTLY, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMESTEAD.
UH, THE TRACK IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN OR NEAR A FLOOD.
THE PROPERTY HAS ACCESS TO BOTH MUNICIPAL DRIVE, WHICH IS THE NORTHERN ROAD HERE AND LINE DRIVE, WHICH IS THE SOUTHERN ROOM AT THE TIME OF A CONCEPT PLAN OR SITE DEVELOPMENT SUBMITTER, OR THE APPLICANT WILL SUBMIT EITHER A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, TIA WORKSHEET, OR A FEE IN LIEU OF THE TIA AS DETERMINED BY THE CITY ENGINEER, THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN ALSO DESIGNATES POTENTIAL RIGHT AWAY, DEDICATION ALONG MUNICIPAL DRIVE.
UM, AS STATED EARLIER, THIS SUBDIVISION IS PLANTED AS PART OF LEANDER HEIGHTS.
SECTION TWO, THE PROPERTY HAS ACCESS TO BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER, UH, IN THE,
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UH, SURROUNDING RIGHT OF WAYS.UH, AND AGAIN, IT'S PROBABLY CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
A DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD WITH STAFF, UH, 8 23.
UH, NO CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE PROJECT SINCE THE DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD, UM, NOTIFICATIONS, THE PAPER NOTIFICATION, UH, WAS SENT TO THE HILL COUNTRY NEWS, JANUARY 6TH, MAILING NOTIFICATIONS TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, UH, PER STAFF WERE SENT OUT ON JANUARY 12TH.
UH, PUBLIC HEARING SIGNAGE WAS ALSO POSTED ON THE SITE JANUARY 12TH.
UM, TONIGHT IS THE, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING ITEM, A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AND THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, UH, TENTATIVELY SLATED FOR THE, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE FEBRUARY 17TH AND, UM, MARCH THE THIRD WILL BE THE FINAL, UH, CITY COUNCIL, UH, SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE IN THE FINAL OR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE.
UH, AGAIN, NOTICES WERE SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, BY CITY STAFF.
THERE WAS ALSO A NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH FORM, UM, IN YOUR PACKET AS ATTACHMENT NUMBER NINE, THIS REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES, UH, IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION.
THE PUD REQUEST INCLUDES UNIQUE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS CALLED OUT IN THE PUD NOTES WITHIN ATTACHMENT SEVEN.
THIS REQUEST INCLUDES A CONDO REGIME DEVELOPMENT WITH PRIVATE DRIVES THAT HAVE A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG THE DRIVES AND INCLUDES ADDITIONAL GUEST PARKING PROVISION.
UH, THERE WAS A COPY OF THE, UH, THE PRIVATE DRIVES, UH, ROADWAY SEGMENT IN THE VERY LAST PAGE OF THAT, UH, PUT NOTES, UH, K SOMEBODY WANTED TO CHECK A LOOK AT IT.
SO, BUT THAT SAID, UH, STAFF'S COMPLETED THEIR PRESENTATION AND THERE'LL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE, UH, APPLICANT PRESENTATION.
DO WE HAVE AN ACTUAL PRESENTATION, THE PRESENTATION, BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON? THIS ITEM IS NOT OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL START WITH VICE CHAIRMAN.
SO WHY IS THIS A PUT AND NOT STRAIGHT ZONING? ARE THERE WAS A COUPLE OF CONCESSIONS IN THERE WITH MODIFICATIONS TO THE SETBACKS.
I BELIEVE THOSE ARE, UH, OUTLINING THE, UH, THE PUD DEVELOPMENT.
RIGHT? SO, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT MY, SO THEN MY QUESTION, MAYBE EVEN FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHY, BECAUSE IN YOUR, SORRY, LET ME BACK UP.
CAUSE IN YOUR STAFF CONCLUSIONS, DOES IT WARRANT ANY SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS? NO, BECAUSE IT'S A PUD.
MY QUESTION IS WHY CAN'T WE DO STRAIGHT ZONING.
AND HOW DOES THAT IMPACT YOUR DEVELOPMENT WITH, UH, OUT THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT'S BEING ALLOWED DUE TO IT BEING A PUTT BECAUSE IT'S A CONDO REGIME AND IT'S NOT REALLY, SFT RIGHT.
THAT'S UP TO THE MICROPHONE TO THE TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT.
YOU HAVE TO PLOT INDIVIDUAL LOTS FOR EACH UNIT.
AND THIS IS ONE LOT WITH MULTIPLE UNITS ON IT.
WE DON'T HAVE A BETTER ZONING CATEGORY.
IT'S WHERE IT WOULD BE STRAIGHT ZONING.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THE PROCESS THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO DO THIS CONDO REGIME COTTAGE HOUSING, BUT IT DOESN'T ALLOW ATTACHED PRODUCT.
COMMISSIONER MAY I WAS READING THROUGH THE NOTES AND IT SPECIFIED THAT THERE WAS ONE GARAGE IN ONE SURFACE PARKING FOR TWO BEDROOMS OR LOSS AND ONE GARAGE AND TWO SURFACE PARKINGS FOR THREE BEDROOM.
AND THEN THEY SAID THERE WAS 10% GUEST PARKING AND 5% HANDICAP.
AND I KNOW THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWING, ISN'T THE FINAL THING, BUT, UH, WHAT, WHERE'S THE PARKING LOCATED FOR ALL THOSE I'M ASSUMING ONE IS AN ATTACHED GARAGE, CORRECT? UM, YES.
SO, UM, ON THE EXHIBIT YOU CAN SEE THE ATTACHED GARAGE AND THEN THERE'S A DRIVEWAY IN FRONT AND THEN WE'VE GOT ADDITIONAL PARKING AND GUEST PARKING BOTH ON, IN FRONT OF EACH HOME AND THEN GUEST PARKING BETWEEN.
SO WHAT IS SHOWN THERE, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? MY NAME IS JOSH BECKER.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT JUST DIDN'T ADD UP IN MY MIND.
HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ARE GOING TO BE TWO BEDROOM VERSUS THREE BEDROOM RIGHT NOW? THE CURRENT PLAN IS I THINK MOST
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OF THEM WILL BE THREE BEDROOM, THREE BED, TWO BATH.THAT SEEMS TO BE THE MOST POPULAR FLOOR PLAN.
SO THE ENGINEERS WOULD WORK OUT THE PARKING.
BECAUSE IF ALL OF THEM ARE THAT WAY, YOU WOULD NEED 64 PARKING SPACES AND THEY'RE 32 DRIVE.
SO YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE 32 PARKING SPACES.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU WOULD PUT THE HOST.
WE'D PUT THEM BETWEEN, I MEAN, SOME OF THEM WOULD BE BETWEEN THE, THE FOUR BUILDINGS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE HAVE TO CHOKE DOWN DENSITY THAN WE WILL, RIGHT.
I MEAN, THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT LIMITS, THE NUMBER OF HOMES YOU CAN FIT.
AND ONE QUESTION THAT I WAS READING THE LETTER WAS SENT OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS, CORRECT? ON JULY 29TH.
WAS THERE A REASON FOR THE TIME DIFFERENT? ALMOST SIX MONTHS, WE WERE JUST WORKING THROUGH THINGS WITH STAFF TO GET TO WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE.
IS, IS THE PLAN FOR 32 TOWNHOMES BASED OFF OF THE, I GUESS, YES.
AND THEN YOU SAID YOU HAD A, UH, I HAVE AN ELEVATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT A JUMP DRIVE.
UM, IS THERE A THUMB DRIVE ANYWHERE I'VE GOTTEN THE THUMB DRIVE SOME TO PLUG IT IN.
I JUST WOULDN'T MIND SEEING THAT REAL QUICK.
IN THE WILD THAT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, ALL THAT'S HAPPENING.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TOWNHOMES ARE ON THE WEST SIDE AND THE OTHER? HOW MANY? NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
SO THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS.
THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE ONE DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR COLORIZED AND OURS ARE HERE.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONES THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE, THAT'S KIND OF THE LOOK WE'RE GOING FOR TO MATCH WHAT'S BEING BUILT DIRECTLY.
IT'S 34 COMMISSIONER ELANTRA AND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
UH, YOU SAID THAT THIS IS PART OF THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST.
THAT'S READY, ALREADY BEEN PLOTTED AND, AND READY TO GO.
IT'S NOT PART OF, WE WERE JUST TRYING TO MAKE A GOOD TRANSITION BETWEEN THE STUFF TO THE WEST THAT'S THEY HAVEN'T BUILT ON IT AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHY WE DON'T OWN IT AND THEN THE APARTMENTS TO THE EAST.
AND SO WE WERE JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CONTINUITY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE PART OF THE SAME THING OR NOT, THEN MY QUESTION WILL NO, SIR.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND AND MOST HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSED CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY ITEM 11,
[11. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-037 to amend the current zoning of LC-2-B (Local Commercial) and SFU/MH-2-B (Single-Family Urban/Manufactured Home) to GC-3-C (General Commercial) and LC-2-A (Local Commercial) on two parcels of land approximately 1.5660 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R035565 and R035563; and addressed as 1007 and 1009 Los Vista Drive, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-037 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING LEANDER LOCAL ZONING CASE 21 DASH ZERO DASH 0 3 7.TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF LC TWO B AND SFU, M H TWO B TO G C THREE C AN LLC TO A ON TWO PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 1.5 6, 6, 0 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES IN SIZE.
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCELS ARE 0 3 5 5 6 5, AND ARE 0 3, 5, 5, 6, 3, AND ADDRESSED AS 10 0 7 AND 10 0 9 LOS VISTA DRIVE, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATIONS.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP OF THE ZONING PROCESS.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND LOCAL COMMERCIAL.
IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE, THERE IS A SPECIAL CONSIDERATION ON THIS CASE REGARDING FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A MULTI-USE CORRIDOR, BUT IT ISN'T CONSIDERED A PRIORITY.
THIS CORRIDOR DOES NOT SUPPORT THE GC USE COMPONENT.
THE CITY HAS INITIATED AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO SUPPORT THE GC USE
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COMPONENT AT INTERSECTIONS WITHIN THE CORRIDOR.THIS AMENDMENT WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION AND SCHEDULED FOR THE FEBRUARY 3RD, 2022 CITY COUNCIL MEETING APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING CASE IS CONTINGENT ON THE APPROVAL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
AND THAT WOULD BE THIS MULTI-USE CORRIDOR RIGHT HERE WOULD BE CONSIDERED ABLE TO SUPPORT THE GCU AT THAT INTERSECTION SECTION AT, UH, SOUTH BAGHDAD AND LAS VISTAS.
UM, THESE TWO PARCELS ARE LOCATED ALONG THE MOST VISCOUS DRIVE NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH BAGHDAD ROAD.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE POSITIONED BY A SINGLE, UH, POSITIONED BY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO THE NORTH ZONE, GC DASH THREE C TO THE SOUTH ZONED SINGLE FAMILY, URBAN MANUFACTURED HOME AND THE HORIZON BAPTIST CHURCH ENTRANCE TO THE EAST ZONED SINGLE FAMILY MANUFACTURED HOME.
THE REMAINING PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED TO THE SOUTH AND WEST, UH, AND THEY'RE BOTH ZONE GC AND THEY'RE BOTH UNDEVELOPED.
UH, THIS PROPERTY CONTAINS SCATTERED TREES ACROSS THE LOT IS RELATIVELY FLAT AND, AND IS UNDEVELOPED.
THE EAST MOST SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A FEMA FLOOD AREA.
THIS IS ONE, UH, UM, THERE IS ONE ABANDONED STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY, LET ME, AND IT WOULD BE, UM, THAT BACK PARCEL.
UM, ON APRIL 14TH, 1969, THE PARCEL WERE PLANTED, UH, WITH HIGH CHAPARRAL SUBDIVISION AND IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.
A DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD WITH STAFF ON 1 25, UH, 2021, NO CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL PRIOR TO OFFICIAL SUBMITTAL OF THE REZONING APPLICATION.
UM, WE DO HAVE THE SPECIAL CONSIDERATION I MENTIONED EARLIER.
UH, IF THE UPDATE TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP GETS APPROVED AND THE GC USE WOULD BE, UM, ABLE TO, UH, ALLOWED AT ANY NON PRIORITY CORRIDOR INTERSECTION.
IN ADDITION TO THE NOTICE MAILED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, THE AGENT REACHED OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS OF, UM, PROPERTY ZONED, SINGLE FAMILY, OR ANY USED AS SINGLE FAMILY USES WITHIN 500 FEET.
UM, THE FULL REPORTS IN YOUR PACKETS AND THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT WOULD ALLOW FOR A COMMERCIAL USES AT THIS LOCATION.
THE APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CHANGES CONTINGENT ON THE APPROVAL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENT.
IF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS NOT APPROVED, THEN THE ZONING CASE WILL BE IN A NINE.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THIS CASE.
I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION IN THAT CASE? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM SEEING THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, MOVE ON TO THE COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER WHO STARTED HERE LAST TIME, TWISTING A CARPENTER.
THE PROPERTY THAT'S IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF, OF THIS SITE IS THAT INCLUDED IN THIS BUILDING.
IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S ALREADY ZONED GC ACCESS WILL BE OFF OF BAGHDAD, NOT OFF OF LOS VISTA.
HAVE YOU GUYS SPEAK, I NEED YOU TO COME AND SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
I'M JONATHAN FELKER WITH TEXAS LAND MAPS.
AND YOU'RE SAYING, IS THERE AN ENTRANCE ON BAGHDAD? WELL, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT ACCESS TO THE SITE AND THE CONSTRUCTION.
CAUSE THE LOWEST VISTA IS A PRETTY MARGINAL ROAD.
I MEAN, THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME UPGRADES DONE TO THAT IN ORDER TO TAKE THE KINDS OF TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF A CONVENIENCE STORE GAS STATION.
SO IS THERE A PLAN FOR THAT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME FROM EITHER US OR THE APPLICANT? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, SIR, BUT IT IS INCLUDED IN THE SITE, CORRECT.
UM, THAT WAS MY BIG CONCERN, COMMISSIONER ELANTRA.
I HAD THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT THE PARCEL ON BAGHDAD.
SO AGAIN, MR. HAMPTON, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY THE EARLIER BACK THERE IS THAT IF YOU WERE TO PUT THIS IN, YOU WOULD HAVE ENTRANCE POSSIBLY IN BOTH BAGHDAD
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AND LOWE'S, IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO.I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT TO KNOW THIS, BUT HOW CLOSE IS THAT TO THE FOOD TRUCK? UM, THE FOOD TO FOOD TRUCK WOULD BE ACROSS THE STREET.
UH, LIKE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LAS VISTA, THERE'S A, THERE'S ANOTHER SIGN OUTSIDE.
I SAW I PUT THE SIGNS OUT, SO I WENT AND LOOKED AT IT AND INSTEAD OF FOOD TRUCK THERE.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST NOT THAT FAR FROM THE TWO GAS STATION, CONVENIENCE STORES WE ALREADY HAVE AROUND THE CORNER BECAUSE WE GOT ONE ON THE CORNER.
HE THROWS AWAY IN RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE APARTMENTS.
AND THEN THE ONE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
I DON'T STAY OUT HERE, SO I'M NOT COMPLETELY FAMILIAR, BUT WHEN I WENT DOWN THERE, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE IT.
ANY, ANY GAS STATIONS FOR IT, CAUSE I NEEDED TO GET GAS.
SO I REMEMBER LIKE LOOKING AT IT ON MY PHONE TO TRY TO FIND SOMEWHERE NEARBY AND I DIDN'T HAVE HAPPEN.
THEN MAYBE IT WAS ON THE OTHER DIRECTION ON BAGHDAD.
CAUSE I THINK I WENT, UH, LIKE SOUTH.
ON THE, I'M NOT AWARE OF WHAT'S NORTH OF IT.
JUST A FEW RISKS IS NOT FAR FROM THERE, BUT THAT'S THE LIE COMMISSIONER.
JUST A HAVE COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING YOU ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S JUST TO THE WEST OF THAT, CORRECT? YES.
THAT, THAT NARROW STRIP THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE SPOT.
SO YOU YOU'LL BE PUTTING THE, UH, CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO PRODUCTS.
MY BIG CONCERN WAS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THAT WAS GOING TO GENERATE ON.
UM, I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF THE STREET NOW.
UM, BECAUSE IT IS A SMALL, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD STREET AND HAVING ACCESS TO BAGHDAD W WOULD SOLVE THAT.
UH, I'VE GOT NO ISSUES WITH THIS.
IT DOES MAKE ME WANT TO SAY A COMMENT MORE TOWARDS THE END.
I'M NOT GOING TO CONFUSE CASES HERE.
SO, AND BACK TO COMMISSIONER MOSS'S POINT, THERE'S A SEVEN 11 TO THE SOUTH OF THIS, ABOUT A MILE AND THE TWO GAS STATIONS YOU WERE REFERRING TO UP AT HERO IN BAGHDAD IS ABOUT TWO, TWO AND A HALF MILES NORTH.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY VICE CHAIRMAN AND A SECOND BIKE COMMISSIONER.
BAUPOST CARRIES UNANIMOUS, MOVING ON TO ITEM
[12. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-040 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to LO-2-B (Local Office) on eight parcels of land approximately 27.99 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R031590, R031591, R031592, R031594, R031595, R508113, R508114, and R508115; and addressed as 3250 Hero Way, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-040 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]
12, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 DASH Z DASH 0 4 0 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR ONE B TWO L O TO BE ON EIGHT PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 27.99 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES.MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCEL R 0 3 1 5 9 OR 0 3 1 5 0 ARE 0 3 1 5 9 2 OR 0 3 1 5 9 4 0 0 3 1 5 9 5 OR 5 0 8 1 1 3 OR 5 0 8 1 1 4 AND OUR 5 0 8 1 1 5 AND ADDRESSED AS 3, 2, 5 0 HERO WAY LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.
UH, SO THIS IS I'M COREY WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, COREY DEALT WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SO THIS IS THE, ALSO THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS FOR THIS CASE.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST, UH, CONCURRENTLY WITH THEIR ANNEXATION, UH, ALONG WITH TONIGHT ZONING, UH, FOR A PORTION OF THEIR SITE ALONG HERE AWAY IN ORDER TO BUILD A PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOL IN TWO PHASES, PHASE ONE WILL CONSIST OF AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
WHILE PHASE TWO WILL EXPAND TO A MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL.
THE PROJECT IS SUBJECT TO A ANNEXATION, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, ANNEXATION OF THE PROPERTY AS REQUIRED WHEN THE PROPERTY REDEVELOPS THE ANNEXATION REQUEST 21 DASH EIGHT DASH ZERO NINE.
UH, IF YOU'RE CURIOUS, UH, WILL BE REVIEWED CONCURRENTLY WITH THE ZONING REQUEST.
SO TO THE NORTH, WE HAVE INTERIM SFR, ONE B AND THAT'S JUST AGRICULTURAL LAND TO THE EAST.
WE HAVE, UH, ANOTHER INTERIM SFR, ONE B IT'S JUST A RESIDENTIAL, UH, SITE AND KIND OF TO THE NORTHEAST.
WE HAVE, UH, THE PALMERO RIDGE, UH, PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S THIS GUY RIGHT HERE TO THE SOUTH.
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ANOTHER, UH, INTERIM SFR, ONE B UH, IT'S RESIDENTIAL AND IT'S UNDEVELOPED.AND THEN TO THE WEST, WE HAVE HEAVY COMMERCIAL.
SO PREVIOUS REASON I BELIEVE, UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 3000 FEET EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF 180 3 A AND HERE WE'RE AWAY AND SOUTHWEST, UH, PALMERO BRIDGE SECTION EIGHT, I MEAN, SORRY, SIX, THE PROPERTY CONTAINS TWO LARGE DETENTION AREAS.
IT'S FINDING ARIEL HERE AND HERE, UH, AT THE MOMENT AND A SINGLE HOMESTEAD, ANNEXATION AND ASSIGNMENT OF INTERIM ZONING FOR THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY FACING HERE OR AWAY, UH, WAS PER ORDINANCE 10 DASH 26 .
AND THAT WAS IN OCTOBER OF 2010 REMAINING PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY WERE KEPT ETJ WITH FUTURE ANNEXATION REQUEST AND ZONING PER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UH, THIS PROPERTY TAKES ACCESS ONTO HEBER AWAY.
THE PROPERTY INCLUDES, UH, RIGHT AWAY, DEDICATION ALONG HERE AWAY ALONG WITH A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK AT THE TIME OF CONCEPT PLAN, UH, THE APPLICANT WILL SUBMIT EITHER A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OR A FEE IN LIEU OF THE TIA AS DETERMINED BY THE CITY ENGINEER PER TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL ALSO INCLUDE, UH, TWO SEPARATE TRIAL SEGMENTS, UH, FOR BOTH BRUSHY CREEK, UH, MAIN BRANCH TRAIL THAT RUNS, UH, WEST AND OLD SAM BASH TRAIL.
THE PROPERTY HAS ACCESS TO BOTH, UH, WATER AND SEWER.
UM, THE NEAREST WATER LINE IS AN ADIENCE LINE AND IT'S LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 580 FEET WEST OF, UH, THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE HERO WAY RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THERE'LL BE A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT, CONSTRUCTION PLAN SET.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
SO A DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD WITH STAFF ON, UH, AUGUST OF 2001 PRETTY RECENTLY.
SO NO CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE PROJECT SINCE THE DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD.
UM, PUBLIC NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE HILL COUNTRY NEWS, JANUARY 6TH, UH, MAILING NOTICES TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, AS WELL AS PUBLIC SIGNAGE WAS POSTED, UH, FOR THE SITE.
UH, JANUARY 12TH TONIGHT WILL BE THE, UH, FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.
UH, CITY COUNCIL WILL BE FEBRUARY 17TH FOLLOWED BY THE SECOND ROUND OF CITY COUNCIL, UH, IN MARCH 3RD, THE THIRD FOR THE FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE, UH, AGAIN, NOTICES WERE MAILED BY CITY STAFF TO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT FELL WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY SUBJECT FOR THE ZONING AND NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH, UH, INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, UH, WITHIN YOUR PACKET.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ATTACHMENT NUMBER EIGHT.
THE ZONING REQUEST OF ELO TWO B IS IN LINE WITH THE ZONING SUITABILITY, UH, OUTLINED PER THE 2020 LEANDER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH BOTH ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOOD OF PALMERA RIDGE, AGRICULTURAL HOMESTEADS IN THE AREA AND FUTURE COMMERCIAL TO THE WEST.
UH, STAFF NOTED WHILE STAFF WILL NOTE THE SCORE PROPOSAL IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT INTERIM SFR ONE B ZONING, AS WELL AS THE REMAINING ETJ DESIGNATION AND ENCOURAGES THE UNIFORM ZONING FOR THE EIGHT TRACKS WITHIN THE PROJECT.
UH, THAT CONCLUDES A STAFF PRESENTATION.
WE'LL BE HERE AFTER THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION, AND IF YOU'LL HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION IF YOU JUST COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME? SO WE HAVE YOUR NAME IN THE RECORD.
MY NAME IS AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC RELATIONS FOR HARMONY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, CENTRAL TEXAS.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THE SCHOOL IN OUR DISTRICT.
DO I HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I DO HAVE TWO, UH, COMMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED IN WRITING.
THE FIRST ONE IS BY CHARLES HOSKINS FROM 3, 3, 5 OVER HERE AWAY.
HE IS OPPOSED TO THIS ITEM AND DENISE LEWIS AT 3, 3, 3, 600 AWAY IS OPPOSED TO THIS ITEM WITH NO ONE WISHING TO SPEAK.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER, MAN.
MINE'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF, UM, SEEMS TO BE COMMON TONIGHT.
I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN THE, NOT MY, MY BASIC, IT'S A BASIC QUESTION.
I'M OKAY WITH THIS, BUT WHY, WHY DO WE CLASSIFY CHARTER SCHOOLS AS LOCAL OFFICE VERSUS LOCAL COMMERCIAL? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE CLASSIFICATION, IT TALKS ABOUT DAYCARE FOR LOCAL, UM, LOCAL OFFICE AND THEN LOCAL COMMERCIAL THAT SAYS, UM, COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES.
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I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE CHARTER SCHOOL, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD AKIN THEM MORE TOWARDS THE HIGHER END OF THAT THAN THE LOWER END.AND I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE IN LINE TO GIVE THEM A HIGHER CLASSIFICATION VERSUS THE LOWER.
YEAH, WELL, OF COURSE THEY'RE ALLOWED IN BOTH BECAUSE IF YOU GIVE A HIGHER YOU'RE ALLOWED EVERYTHING BELOW, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS WHAT SHOULD THE RIGHT CLASSIFICATION BE? BECAUSE WE DON'T SPECIFICALLY OUTLINE THAT FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS IN OUR ZONINGS, THEY COULD HAVE BEEN A SINGLE FAMILY RURAL, THEY COULD HAVE BEEN SINGLE FAMILY URBAN, UM, THEY'RE IN AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER, THAT'S THE LAND USE CATEGORY THAT DOESN'T ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS.
SO THE LEAST INS DISTRICT AVAILABLE AS LOCAL OFFICE AND THAT'S WHAT WAS SELECTED.
UM, THEY COULD HAVE DONE HEAVY COMMERCIAL, LOCAL COMMERCIAL.
IT'S JUST WHAT FIT IN THE CATEGORY.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION, BUT WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ANOTHER TIME.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE SAYING THAT LOCAL, WHICH IS, UH, UH, A LOW, LOW CLASSIFICATION THAT LOCAL OFFICE IS THE RIGHT ONE FOR A CHARTER SCHOOL.
MY QUESTION IS WHY IS THAT? WHY SHOULDN'T IT BE REQUIRED THAT THEY REQUEST LOCAL COMMERCIAL? I GET THAT THEY MEET THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND BOTH ARE ALLOWED.
MY QUESTION IS SIMPLY WHY AS A CITY WHERE, WHEN WE DON'T SPECIFICALLY DEFINE WHAT A SCHOOL SHOULD BE IN, WHY ARE WE PUTTING IT AT THE LOWER LOCAL OFFICE CLASSIFICATION INSTEAD OF THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL? SO THE APPLICANT COULD HAVE MADE THE CHOICE TO ASK FOR LOCAL COMMERCIAL.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO IT'S ALLOWED IN ALL DISTRICTS, COMMISSIONER MAY ONLY HAVE ONE THING.
UM, IS THE APPLICANT AWARE OF THE HERO WAY REALIGNMENT THAT MAY HAPPEN IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY? UNFORTUNATELY, NO, I DO.
BUT THEN AGAIN, I'M TO HEAR FROM THE CENTRAL OFFICE, I MEAN, FROM OUR DISTRICT OFFICE, OUR CENTRAL OFFICE IS THE ONE WHO'S HANDLING ALL OF THE PAPERWORK, BUT I CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
YEAH, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO EXPAND HERE AWAY TOO.
HOW MANY LANES IS IT THERE? FOUR LANES, TWO LANE IN FRONT OF 10 LANES ARE TO GO IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL AND THAT MAY HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
WHEN IS THAT PROJECTED TO HAPPEN? SUPPOSEDLY CONSTRUCTION SHOULD START IN THE PROBLEM IN ABOUT A YEAR, THREE LANES FIRST AND THEN COME BACK AND PUTTING THE REST OF THE ROADWAY.
SO, SO MY QUESTION THEN IS, BECAUSE THE REASON I DIDN'T EVEN ASK THAT QUESTION OF THAT COMMISSIONER MAY ASK IS BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THAT THEY WILL BE GIVEN UP, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AWAY ON YOUR AWAY.
SO AS THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT THEY'RE COMMITTING TO INCLUSIVE OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED WITH THE AIRWAY EXPANSION.
SO TO ANSWER IT, UM, WHEN WE DO OUR DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS, WE DO IT BASED ON WHAT THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE CONFERENCE MASTER PLAN SAYS FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION THERE.
BUT EVERY MEETING THAT WE'VE HAD THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THE HERO WAY, WE REFERENCED THEM AND SEND THEM TO THE COUNTY WEBSITE.
AND, UH, THEY HAVE A, UH, LIKE A LAYOUT, A SCHEMATIC OF THE, OF THE ROADWAY AND WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET WITH THE, THE, UH, THE COUNTY.
AND I'M SORRY, I CAN'T REMEMBER IT.
IS IT A TEXTILE AS WELL, COUNTY AND TXDOT, UH, GET WITH THEM AND KIND OF FIGURE IT OUT.
I MEAN, UH, SO THEY ARE AWARE OF IT AND WE MAKE IT, UH, AN AN, UH, TRYING TO SAY, MAKE IT A POINT TO TELL THEM THAT.
SO WE CAN ONLY DO WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR RIGHT THOROUGHFARE.
SO, SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, IF, AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, IT'S NOT GOING TO HINDER THEIR DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEN TECHSTOP WILL APPROACH THEM AND PURCHASE THE NEEDED RIGHT AWAY FOR THE ADDITION.
SO, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY SHOULD STILL BE MADE AWARE OF WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU MAKE THEM AWARE THAT THIS IS COMING.
YOU GIVE THEM THE RESOURCES TO GO FIND OUT HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THEM SO THAT THEY CAN PLAN AHEAD.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER MAY WAS TRYING TO, I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR THE SCHOOL.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON HOW FAR, UH, RIGHT AWAY THEY HAVE TO GIVE UP FOR THE HERO WAY EXPANSION, THAT COULD HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON PUTTING THEIR SCHOOL IN THAT, ON THAT PLOT OF LAND.
AND THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON I ASK I'M GOOD COMMISSIONER MOSS.
WHERE IS THIS GOING TO BE LOCATED AT, ON HEROES,
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WAYNE? BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THAT MAP.I CAN'T REALLY TELL, UH, LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE AN, I'M SORRY.
IT'S UH, 180 3 IS GOING TO BE BASICALLY OKAY.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, NO COMMISSIONER ELANTRA.
MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THE SCHOOL.
AND, UH, JUST TO RESPOND TO COMMISSIONER MEHAN I I'M I'M FOR THE LOCAL OFFICE.
I THINK THAT I DON'T SEE A POINT IN GIVING SOMEONE A HIGHER LEVEL OF ZONING THAN THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
IF, IF IT CAN BE ACCOMMODATED IN LOCAL OFFICE.
I MEAN, I'M FINE WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS IS KIND OF CATTY CORNER OF BETS, UH, RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS.
SO I THINK THAT'S ROLE APPROPRIATE ZONING SINCE IT WILL ACCOMMODATE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
HOW DID THIS CHUNK OF LAND NOT GET A NEXT ONE? WE WERE OUT THERE.
I MEAN, IS THIS JUST THIS SQUARE RIGHT HERE IS THE ONLY PART.
SO THEREFORE, SO I'M HERE AWAY.
IT USED TO BE COUNTY, A COUNTY ROAD.
AND, UM, WE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY THAT WE WOULD ANNEX, UM, 500 FEET ALONG, EITHER SIDE OF IT WHEN THE ROAD WAS FINISHED.
AND THEN LATER WE CAME BACK AND DID A SECOND ANNEXATION TO GET THE REST OF THE LAND.
THEY HAD, UM, A AGRICULTURAL EXEMPTION.
SO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DELAY ANNEXATION.
SO NOW THAT THEY'RE REDEVELOPING, THAT'S, WHAT'S TRIGGERING THE ANNEXATION SEEMS LIKE SUCH AN ODD TRUMP.
UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THE, THE DETENTION PONDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY.
I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE NECESSARILY DETENTION PONDS.
THEY WERE ASSOCIATED WITH AN AGRICULTURAL USE.
IT MIGHT'VE BEEN A STOCK POND OR SOMETHING, BUT WHEN THEY REDEVELOPED, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THEIR OWN DETENTION PONDS TO SERVE THEIR PROJECT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? IF NOT, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY VICE CHAIRMAN, ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY ITEM 13,
[13. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-041 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to GC-3-C (General Commercial) on two parcels of land approximately 22.039 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R031358 and R602142; and addressed as 8622 183A Toll Road, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-041 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ASHTON REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 DASH Z DASH ZERO FOUR.ONE TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM S F R ONE B TWO G C THREE C ON TWO PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 22.039 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES IN SIZE.
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCELS ARE 0 3 1 3 5 8 AND ARE 6 0 2 1 4 2 AND ADDRESSED AS 8 6 2 2 180 3, A TOLL ROAD, LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COMMISSION JUSTIN HUNT WITH PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR IN ORDER TO DEVELOP 22 ACRES WITH A MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE.
THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT, RETAIL AND SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES OF DESTINATION VARIETY WITH STRONG VEHICULAR ACCESSIBILITY FROM 180 3, A TOLL ROAD.
THESE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED SOUTH OF THE PEC PUD AND FUTURE PEC DATA CENTER AND LOCATED TO THE EAST IS GENERATION CHURCH AND PREMIER ATHLETIC COMPLEX.
THIS PARCEL IS LOCATED NORTH OF A SINGLE FAMILY ZONE PARCEL.
THAT IS UNDEVELOPED DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO 180 3, A TOLL ROAD TO THE EAST.
THE PROPERTY IS ACROSS, UH, FROM FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE LEANDER SPRINGS IN, UM, PARKSIDE VILLAGE, THE AREA CONTAINED SCATTERED TREES.
UM, AND UPON, UH, FROM SATELLITE IMAGERY, YOU CAN NOTICE SOME OF THE DRAINAGE PATTERNS ACROSS OPEN LAND.
THIS LAND SLOPES TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, HAVING FRONT, HAVING THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO 23 TOLL ROAD AT A HIGHER GRADE.
THIS SITE IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD WITH STAFF ON, UH, SEPTEMBER 27TH TO 2021.
NO CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE PROJECT SINCE THE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO ORDINANCE UPDATES THAT WOULD AFFECT
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THIS PROPOSAL.IN ADDITION TO THE NOTICE MILLED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO ALL PROPERTIES, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, THE AGENT REACHED OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, ZONE SINGLE FAMILY, OR ANY PORTION OUR PROPERTIES USED AS SINGLE FAMILY USES WITHIN 500 FEET.
THE FULL REPORT IS LOCATED IN YOUR PACKETS.
THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT WOULD ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL USES AT THIS LOCATION.
THE ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP CATEGORY OF PRIORITY MIXED USE ALONG A PRIORITY CORRIDOR, AND IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THIS CASE, AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
APPLICANT PRESENTATION, MR. RADICCHIO, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD EVENING, PETER.
I WAS GOING TO BE BRIEF, BUT THEN I START HEARING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ON SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS AND HOW RELEVANT THEY WERE TO THIS.
CAN WE PUT THE AERIAL BACK UP, PLEASE? THANK YOU.
SO, WHEN WE WERE APPROACHED BY THE APPLICANT NEARLY A YEAR AGO, WE ENCOURAGED THEM AND REALLY FOCUSED ON TRYING TO LOOK AT A WAY TO BRING DEVELOPMENT TO THIS PROPERTY THROUGH STRAIGHT ZONING.
SO FORTUNATELY THE A G B3 ZONING PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE FLEXIBILITY TOPS, SOME REALLY CREATIVE LAND USES AND DESIGN ON THIS PROPERTY WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THE PUD ROUTE, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS AREA AND FOR ANYBODY THAT'S DRIVEN ON 180 3, YAY.
THIS IS AT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL POND.
I WILL FREELY ADMIT THAT I DRIVE BY IT EVERY WEEK.
AND EVERY TIME I LOOK OVER, I'M JUST KIND OF LIKE, OKAY, WELL, THE GOOD NEWS IS WE INTEND TO KEEP THAT STOCK TANK.
WE ALSO INTEND TO KEEP THE TREES, UM, TO THE, TO THE TREES, TO THE NORTH ARE SIGNIFICANT OAKS.
THOSE ARE HERITAGE QUALITY OAKS.
THOSE ARE TREES THAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE PRESERVED.
SO WE HAVE BEGUN THAT PRELIMINARY DESIGN EFFORT.
WE'VE ALSO BEEN MEETING AND TALKING TO OUR NEIGHBORS ABOUT UTILITY SERVICES DRIVES THAT SORT OF THING.
SO THERE'S BEEN A COORDINATED EFFORT HERE.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT ALL WITH YOU, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE OTHER CASES, THE PRESENTATION HAS TALKED ABOUT AUS AND SUBSEQUENT ZONING WHILE WE DON'T HAVE USES YET, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH PLANS THAT RANGE FROM RESTAURANTS TO OFFICE, TO HOTELS, ALL ALLOWABLE USES WITHIN STRAIGHT ZONING.
WE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
SO THIS ISN'T A SPECULATIVE BLANK ZONING REQUEST, BUT RATHER A VERY DELIBERATE REQUEST OF YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS THEY ONLY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, HEARING NONE.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND I WILL OPEN DISCUSSION AREA.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS CORRECTLY, THAT THE ACCESS WILL BE TOTALLY OFF THE TOLL ROAD FRONTAGE ROAD, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
AND WE'LL BE COORDINATING WE'VE ALREADY IN OUR PRE I'M MEETING WITH CITY, TALKED ABOUT IT AND, YOU KNOW, COORDINATION WITH THE TOLL AUTHORITY ON T-CELL LANES AND ACCESS OFF THAT, UH, FURNITURE RUG.
BUT YES, ALL ACCESS WILL BE OFF THE FRONT ROAD OF 180 3.
I'M GLAD TO HEAR YOU'RE SAVING THE POND.
THAT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE SITES THERE TOO.
SO ABSOLUTELY, BUT I WOULD UNDERSTAND TOO.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTION, MR. ELANTRA.
I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE SOUNDING FOR THE AREA COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
I WILL SAY TO MY, SEE THAT POND.
I THINK IT'S A DINOSAUR HAS STEPPED THERE THE WAY IT'S SHAPED.
I DO LIKE THAT, LOOKING AT THAT POND AS WELL.
UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE STAFF BECAUSE I HAVE MY DOCUMENTATION, UM, PER GENERAL COMMERCIAL, HOW HIGH CAN GO.
SO LIKE STORIES 35 FEET WOULD BE THE TYPICAL ZONING FOR THAT ARE FOR THE HYPE FOR THAT 35 FEET MAX.
THAT'S FROM FINISHED FLOOR TO HIGHEST POINT OF THE ROOF.
MAY I LIKE TO USE SOME OF THIS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE TREES AND THE KEEPING AS MUCH OF THE NATURES WE CAN ALL DEVELOPING THE LAND.
UH, I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR THERE.
MY ONLY QUESTION IS FOR MR. V RIDICULOUS AT THIS TIME INSTEAD OF STAFF.
WHY, WHY ARE YOU REQUESTING A TYPE THREE PSYCH COMPONENT JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, JUST OFFER THE GREATEST FLEXIBILITY.
BECAUSE THE ONLY THING I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THERE IS, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT OFFERS THE, THE ABILITY TO FUEL.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP THE POND, THEN THAT KIND OF DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF YOU HAVE A FUELING STATION, RIGHT BESIDE THE POND, UNDERSTAND IMMEDIATELY, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT GAS STATIONS AT THIS TIME.
I MEAN, TRULY IT'S A FLEXIBILITY, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHEST ZONING FOR THE GREATEST FLEXIBILITY.
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YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, I MEAN, TO US TO SIGNATURE ELEMENT IS THAT POND.AND SO WE ARE REALLY LOOKING HARD AT THINGS LIKE HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS THAT CAN OVERLOOK AND TURN THAT INTO A SIGNATURE ELEMENT ON THE SIDE OF THE TOLL ROAD.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER.
MAY DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND FROM ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY ITEM 13, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 DASH ZERO DASH ZERO FOUR.
ONE TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING TO INTERIM S F R ONE B TO G C THREE C TWO PROCESS OF LAND.
[14. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-043 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to GC-2-B (General Commercial) on five parcels of land approximately 33.911 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R555235, R555246, R031297, R555247, R031279; and addressed as 2957, 3345, 3549, & 3919 Hero Way, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-043 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]
14 CONDUCT, A PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDER ASKING REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 DASH ZERO DASH 0 4 3 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM S F R ONE B TO GC TO BE ON FIVE PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 33.911 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAM C COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCELS ARE 5 5 5 2 3 5 ARE 5 5 5 2 4 6 R 0 3 1 2 9 7 ARE 5 5 5 2 4 7 R 0 3 1 2 7 9.AND ADJUST AS 2 9 5 7 3 3 4 5 3 5 4 9 AND 3 9 1 9 HERE AWAY LEANDER, TEXAS WILLIAMSON COUNTY STAFF PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, MICHAEL CZARNOWSKI PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP APPROXIMATELY 33 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL WITH FRONTAGE ALONG HERO WAY.
UH, THE SUBJECT AREA IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF YOUR WAY.
AND RONALD REAGAN, YOU CAN SEE WHEN THE REAGAN OVER HERE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS STRIP AND THEN THIS PARCEL OVER HERE AS WELL.
UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS INCLUDE INTERIM ZONING WITH LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL USES AND UNDEVELOPED LAND.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AS WELL AS THE ACTIVITY CENTER OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
UH, THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER ALLOWS EVERYTHING FROM LOCAL COMMERCIAL TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND THE ACTIVITY CENTER ALLOWS, UH, SOME FORMS OF RESIDENTIAL, UM, AND MOST FORMS OF COMMERCIAL EXCEPT FOR HEAVY COMMERCIAL.
UH, THE SUBJECT AREA CONTAINS UNPLANTED PARCELS, WHICH WILL NEED TO BE PLANTED AS THE AREA DEVELOPS.
UH, THE SUBJECT AREA ALSO CONTAINS SIGNIFICANT TREE COVER AND WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S TREE PRESERVATION AND MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS.
UH, THE PARCEL AT THE VERY CORNER OF, UH, RONALD REAGAN AND HIRO AWAY WAS ANNEXED IN 2005.
THE REMAINING PARCELS WERE ANNEXED LATER IN 2016.
UH, THIS STRIP OF PARCELS WAS ALSO PART OF TWO SEPARATE ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS.
UH, THE FIRST IN 2020, UH, WHICH WAS INCORPORATED INTO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT WAS DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL.
THE SECOND ONE WAS LAST YEAR IN 2021, UH, WHICH INCLUDED THIS ALONG WITH SOME OTHER PARCELS, WHICH YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE, UM, BEFORE IT WAS APPROVED, THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST WAS ALTERED TO REMOVE ANY OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UH, PARCELS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT REQUEST ALONG WITH THIS STRIP, UH, OF PARCELS.
UM, BUT THE PREVIOUS CASE INCLUDED, UH, THESE NEW, EXCUSE ME, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE, THAT, UH, WERE INTERIM SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL AND OTHER PROPERTIES DO HAVE ACCESS TO WATER AND WASTEWATER, BUT THEY WILL NEED TO BE EXTENDED TO THE PERIMETER OF EACH PROPERTY.
UH, WE HAD A DEVELOPMENT MEETING IN NOVEMBER OF 2021, UH, REGARDING THIS, THESE PROPERTIES ALONG WITH 14 OTHERS, UH, THIS REQUEST IS ONLY FOR THESE FIVE PARCELS, UH, ON ATTACHMENT EIGHT IN YOUR PACKET SHOULD INCLUDE THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH SUMMARY.
THE APPLICANT NOTED THAT THERE WERE NO CONCERNS BROUGHT UP, UH, DURING THIS OUTREACH.
HOWEVER, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, THERE WASN'T A LETTER OF OPPOSITION FOR ANY, UH, OF THE ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS ALONG KIRO WAY.
UM, SO THIS ONE IS INCLUDED IN THAT OPPOSITION.
UH, THE SUBJECT AREA IS CURRENTLY MADE UP OF INTERIM ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE APPLIED, WHICH WERE APPLIED AT THE TIME OF ANNEXATION AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS EMPLOYMENT CENTER AND AN ACTIVITY CENTER, UH, WHICH IS CONDUCIVE TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS SHOPPING RESTAURANTS, PLACES TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
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APPIAN PRESENTATION.THINK OF MICHAEL KNOW MICHAEL, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY, STEPHEN, AND WITH BOTTLE ENGINEERING REPRESENTING THE CLIENT, UM, SIMPLY PUT, UH, RIGHT NOW THE, THE RED COMMERCIAL ZONES ARE ISOLATED FROM HERE AWAY.
IT WOULD TAKE SOME GYMNASTICS TO GET THE DEVELOPMENT, BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE ACCESS TO HER AWAY.
WE THINK THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE USE TO ZONE THE GREEN AREAS NORTH OF THE RED AREAS RED.
I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
I DO HAVE ONE WRITTEN COMMENT FROM CHARLES HOSKINS, 3, 3, 5 0 HERE AWAY.
HE'S OPPOSED TO THIS ITEM WITH THAT.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL TURN TO THE VICE CHAIRMAN FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, MR. AND I JUST WANT TO BREAK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR ME WITHOUT APPROVAL OF THIS, THE CURRENT ALREADY APPROVED ZONING THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS TO THE EAST, THE ONLY ACCESS HE WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT FROM IS RONALD REAGAN, CORRECT? BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT THE ALREADY PRE-APPROVED RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS, WHAT I'M SAYING WITHOUT THIS APPROVAL, THE ONLY ACCESS HE HAS TO DOES A ALREADY APPROVED COMMERCIAL ZONING IS FROM RONALD REAGAN.
SO, UH, I THINK BECAUSE HE OWNS THESE PROPERTIES AND HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE, YEAH, YOU CAN'T DEVELOP IT.
HE CAN'T PUT A ROAD THERE AND, AND I MEAN, HE CAN ACCESS IT AND DEVELOP THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, BUT HE CAN'T DEVELOP THE SFR ONE OR THE INTERIM SFR, ONE B TO GET TO THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
IS THAT CORRECT? I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE APPLICANT AND HE CAN HAVE A DRIVEWAY FROM HERE AWAY TO HIS PROPERTY.
BUT, AND, AND THEN MY ONLY OTHER THING IS, I MEAN, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THIS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS AROUND, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATE USE OF USAGES AND THIS ABSOLUTELY COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS MR. SAID EARLIER.
COMMISSIONER MAY I'M GOOD COMMISSIONER MOSS, NO COMMENT.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, THE PLACE, BUT THE OTHER GREEN STRIP THAT'S LIKE BETWEEN THE TWO JUMPING BACK AND FORTH.
IS THAT SOMEONE'S PROPERTY, MICHAEL? UH, YES.
I BELIEVE IT'S A DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNER.
JUST THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT GREEN SPOT THERE.
COMMISSIONER ELANTRA, NO QUESTIONS.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
THE, THE GREEN PORTIONS, THIS IS ALL BASICALLY BEEN REDONE LAST LAST YEAR, SO THAT THE GREEN PORTIONS THAT ARE, UH, RESIDENTIAL IN BETWEEN THE TWO REDS THAT ARE DOWN, THOSE ARE PART OF YOUR OTHER PROJECT, CORRECT.
UM, MICHAEL, YOU GET YOUR POINTS.
UM, HOW DO I, THIS TOP ONE? OKAY.
CHECK, CHECK INTO WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
THIS IS NOT MY APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.
THIS, THIS RIGHT HERE IS OKAY.
DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? WOULD IT BE THIS, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HYPOTHETICAL OR NOT, BUT WOULD THE PLAN BE FREE APPLICANT TO CHANGE THAT AS WELL? AND TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL EVENTUALLY, DO YOU KNOW? YEAH, ACTUALLY WE HAVE ANOTHER CO ZONING CASE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE, UH, I THINK IN A, IN A COUPLE MORE WEEKS, UH, FOR THOSE TRUCKS LAND.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.
WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOR A SECOND.
SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MAY ALL IN FAVOR OPPOSED MOTION PASSES, UNANIMOUSLY
[15. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-045 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to HC-4-D (Heavy Commercial) on three parcels of land approximately 12.819 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R555216, R319481 and R031282; and addressed as 2871 Hero Way, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-045 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]
ITEM 15, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 DASH ZERO DASH 0 4 5.TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR, ONE B TWO H C 4G ON THREE PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 12.819 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES IN SIZE.
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCELS ARE 5 5, 2 1 6 ARE 3 1 9 4 8 1
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AND R 0 3 1 2 8 2 AND ADDRESSED AS 2 8 71 HERO WAY LEANDRA, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.THANK YOU AGAIN, MICHAEL PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SO THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED THIS REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP, UH, THE PROPERTY HAS HEAVY COMMERCIAL, UH, THIS PROPERTY, UH, SHARES SIMILAR ATTRIBUTES TO THE PREVIOUS CASE.
UH, IT'S JUST WEST OF THAT OTHER PROPERTY.
UM, IT'S NOT QUITE ONSCREEN, BUT THAT OTHER STRIP WOULD BE, UH, THAT WAY.
UH, THE PROPERTY, THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ALL WITHIN THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER, WHICH DO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE PROPERTY WAS BROKEN INTO THREE PARCELS AS MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, THE FIRST, UH, ANNEXED IN 2013, THE PORTION, UH, JUST FRONTING A HERO WAY LATER IN 2016 AND THE REMAINDER OF THE PARCEL, UH, PROPERTY IN 2018, UH, PROPERTY DOES TAKE ACCESS OFF OF HERE AWAY, AND IT DOES HAVE ACCESS TO WATER.
UH, WASTEWATER UTILITIES WILL NEED TO BE EXTENDED TO THE PROPERTY DURING THE DEVELOPMENT MEETING HELD IN NOVEMBER, UH, WHERE THE 14 PARCELS WERE DISCUSSED.
THIS WAS ONE THEM AGAIN ON ATTACHMENT EIGHT, INCLUDES THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH FOR THIS PROPERTY.
UH, AND AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE WAS AN OPPOSITION TO, UH, ANY ZONING REQUESTS ALONG HERO WAY.
UH, THIS REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT ZONING AND LAND USES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
UM, SO JUST TO THE, UH, SOUTH AND THE EAST OR HEAVY COMMERCIAL, UH, USERS, UH, AND THE SURROUNDING LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL OR ALL INTERIM ZONING DISTRICTS, UM, THIS AREA HAS ALSO HAD SOME RECENT INTEREST IN ZONING CHANGES, UH, FROM THOSE INTERIM RESIDENTIAL TO MORE COMMERCIAL USES.
UH, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP HAS DESIGNATED THIS AREA AS AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
SO IT DOES ALLOW FOR OFFICE MEDICAL MANUFACTURING, UH, OR OTHER, EXCUSE ME, OTHER HEAVY COMMERCIAL USES.
UM, AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THANKS AGAIN, MICHAEL COMMISSIONERS.
I THINK, UH, THIS IMAGE, UH, REALLY SHOWS THE PICTURE THAT THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE USE FOR THAT, UH, THAT AREA.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE WITH THAT I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I DO HAVE ONE WRITTEN COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM, AND IT'S FROM CHARLES HOSKINS, 3, 3, 5 0 HERE AWAY WHO IS OPPOSED TO THIS ITEM.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL OPEN IT TO DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS COMMISSIONER ELANTRA, NO QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
I HAVE A QUESTION I MEANT TO ASK EARLIER THE SPEED LIMIT ON HERO WAY.
UH, WOULD THAT BE CHANGED EVENTUALLY OR HOW'S THAT WORK? AND THAT'S KIND OF RANDOM NOT ABOUT THIS, BUT I MEANT TO ASK EARLIER ROSS BLACK OR CITY ENGINEER, WE REDUCED THE SPEED LIMIT LAST BUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO BECAUSE THE GEOMETRY OF THE ROAD DID NOT SUPPORT THE 45 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT THAT WAS CURRENTLY EXISTING.
UH, WE HAVE NO PLANS FOR INCREASING IT OR REVISING IT AGAIN UNTIL AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE EXPANSION OF HERE AWAY.
THE ROAD IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE REDESIGNED AND REBUILT FOR THAT TO MAKE SENSE.
IT'S JUST NOT SUITABLE FOR ANYTHING FASTER THAN 30 MILES AN HOUR RIGHT NOW, FOR SURE.
COMMISSIONER MOSS, NO COMMENTS.
UM, JUST THE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT THAT I AGREE THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT DEPARTMENT IS ONLY FOR IT.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THE EXPECTED USE IS GOING TO BE.
EVENT IS COMPLETELY SPECULATIVE AT THIS MOMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? IF NOT, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER THE CARPET.
HOW'S THE SECOND I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MOSS, ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS.
[16. Receive a presentation from Kimley-Horn & Associates (KHA) regarding the draft land use assumptions and capital improvements plan for the 2022 Roadway Impact Fee Study. KHA Presentation Discussion]
REGULAR AGENDA RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM KIMBERLY HORN AND ASSOCIATES REGARDING THE DRAFT LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR 2022 ROADWAY IMPACT FEE STUDY KJ PRESENTATION.[01:00:02]
GOOD EVENING.THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
UM, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, SO WE'LL HOPEFULLY GO AS LONG AS Y'ALL WANT.
UM, SO, UH, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST OF SEVERAL MEETINGS.
I JUST WANT TO GO OUT AND GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
UM, AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO A LOT OF, UH, GOOD POLICY DISCUSSION IN THE COMING MEETINGS.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, UH, ASSUMPTIONS THAT GO INTO THIS STUDY.
UM, SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WALK US THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
YOU ALSO HAD AN ATTACHMENT THAT MADE YOUR PACKET REALLY BIG.
IT'S LIKE THE LAST HUNDRED OR SO PAGES, UH, THAT IS A, A DRAFT VERSION OF THE REPORT.
THERE WILL BE A DIFFERENT VERSION OF THAT.
THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION IN IT, BUT NOT MUCH.
AND SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT'S IN THERE TONIGHT AND TALK THROUGH SOME OF THAT.
UM, BUT FIRST LET ME KIND OF GO OVER TO WHAT THE ROLE OF THIS GROUP IS, UH, AS P AND Z, UM, EVERYTHING IN THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES BY THE WAY, IS GOVERNED BY CHAPTER 3 95 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
SO IF YOU WANT TO READ UP ON ANY WEIRD NUANCES OR ASK ME QUESTIONS AND TRY TO PUT ME ON THE SPOT, I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO DIG UP THOSE DURING THIS TIME.
UM, BUT REALLY THAT'S WHAT GOVERNS, UH, THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, STUDIES AND IMPOSITION OF IMPACT FEES.
UM, AND SO ONE OF THE BODIES AND ONE OF THE PARTS OF THAT PROCESS IS TO HAVE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
SO THIS BODY IS GOING TO SERVE AS THAT FOR THIS PROCESS, UH, FOR Y'ALL THERE ARE TWO REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS AT CITY COUNCIL.
UH, ONE OF THOSE IS GOING TO BE ON SOME OF THE TOPICS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
UM, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE ON THE GROWTH PROJECTIONS.
I'D LIKE TO CALL THEM OR 10 YEAR, UH, GROWTH IN THE LANEY'S ASSUMPTIONS, AS WELL AS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN.
AND I'LL GET TO THIS LATER, BUT THERE IS A IMPACT FEE SPECIFIC CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM YOUR TYPICAL FIVE-YEAR CIP THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH.
AND I'LL EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THAT LATER.
THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IS ACTUALLY ON, UM, A MAXIMUM FEE RATES, AS WELL AS, UH, ADOPTION OF THE STUDY AND AN ORDINANCE TO GO WITH IT.
AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE FUN DISCUSSION AND DEBATE GETS TO HAPPEN WITH THIS GROUP ON WHAT SHOULD BE IN THOSE DOCUMENTS.
UM, AND SO, UH, AS FAR AS THIS PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE CONCERNED, UH, THE ONLY REQUIREMENT IS THAT YOU DELIVER COMMENTS, UH, TO THE CITY COUNCIL FIVE BUSINESS DAYS PRIOR TO EITHER OF THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND WE'LL GO OVER SCHEDULE AND A LITTLE BIT, SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET A FEEL FOR THAT.
UH, AND THEN AFTER ADOPTION, UH, THE, THE STATE LAW DOES ASK THAT THIS GROUP OVERSEE IMPLEMENTATION OF SUCH A PROGRAM, UH, AND REPORTS ON A SEMI-ANNUAL BASIS, EITHER ON ANY COLLECTIONS FROM THAT SIMILAR TO WATER WASTE, WATER IMPACT FEES, UH, AND ANY NEEDS TO UPDATE THE STUDY THAT ARE IDENTIFIED DUE TO CHANGES IN GROWTH OR PROJECTS.
SO TONIGHT'S MEETING, UM, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GIVE A RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT BASED ON THE SCHEDULE, WHICH I'LL GET INTO, BUT IF YOU WANT TO, YOU COULD, UH, ON THE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, THAT'S IN THAT NICE LONG DOCUMENT IN THE PACKET.
I'M ALSO GOING TO COVER A QUICK REFRESHER ON HOW ROADWAY IMPACT FEES WORK.
THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM WATER AND WASTEWATER SALARY HIGHLIGHT.
SOME OF THOSE OF Y'ALL ARE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE, OR JUST IN FACT, IN GENERAL, AND IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER, UH, WHAT ARE THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE FEES AS WELL AS ANY POLICY ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TO POSSIBLY INCLUDE IN THE ORDINANCE REGARDING COLLECTION RATES? UH, SO FOR TONIGHT, SOME OPTIONS FOR Y'ALL EITHER WE COULD, YOU COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND WE CAN MOVE ON IN THE NEXT MEETING, UH, TO, TO THE POLICY DISCUSSION, OR IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO CHANGE, YOU CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT THAT, OR WE CAN JUST DEFER ACTION TO THE NEXT MEETING ENTIRELY AND JUST CLOSE THE TOPIC TONIGHT AND COME BACK NEXT TIME.
SO THAT SHOULD BE A THIRD OPTION ON THE SCREEN.
UM, WHERE HAVE WE BEEN ON THIS? WE, UH, WE DID GET UNDER CONTRACT AND STARTED WORKING SEPTEMBER.
WE'VE BEEN HARD AT WORK ON A LOT OF THE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS TO THIS POINT, BUT NOW IT IS TIME TO GET INTO A DISCUSSION OF, UM, TWO THINGS, ONE THE POLICY PIECE OF THIS, UH, HOW WOULD YOU, HOW WOULD THIS GROUP, UH, ADVISE THAT IT'D BE ROLLED OUT OR, OR, UH, ADOPTED IT AT ALL? UH, AS WELL AS, UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, UH, OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BRING IN, UM, FOLKS THAT MAY BE IMPACTED BY SUCH A FEE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO PLAN TO HAVE A OPEN HOUSE OF SOME SORTS KIND OF LATE FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH WITH SOME OF THE, UH, COMMUNITY AS WELL AS DIRECTLY INVITING FOLKS IN DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE A WEBSITE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING PUT UP THAT WILL HAVE THIS INFORMATION.
SO IT'S CLEAR AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO LOOK AT.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TRY TO GO TALK WITH THE LOCAL HOME-BUILT HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, WHO TYPICALLY, UH, DOES, UH, DOES FEEL SOME OF THE WAY THAT THESE THINGS.
SO, UH, WE ARE, UH, THE SCHEDULE AFTER THIS PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT OPEN.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OPTIONS FOR YOU ALL TO GIVE WEIGH IN ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, SO WHAT I LIKE TO SAY IS THERE'S, THERE'S TWO WAYS WE COULD DO THIS.
WE COULD EVEN GO LONGER IF YOU WANT.
UM, ONE OPTION THAT WE PUT TOGETHER WAS TO TRY TO FINISH THIS IN MAY.
UM, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IS WE WOULD BE MEETING WITH Y'ALL ABOUT EVERY MONTH, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND MARCH.
UH, BUT WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE AN EXTRA MEETING IN MARCH, UM, KIND OF WHEN YOUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED P AND Z MEETINGS.
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UM, THE ONE THING THAT DOESN'T CHANGE AT THIS POINT IS WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT FIRST PUBLIC HEARING AT COUNCIL ON MARCH 17TH.UH, AND THERE IS AN ITEM NEXT WEEK AT COUNCIL TO SET THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE STATE LAW REQUIRES THE COUNCIL TO SET IT A 30 DAY NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER AND THEN ACTUALLY HOLDING IT.
UM, AND THEN ONCE THAT FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS HELD, THERE'S NOT ANY TIME REQUIREMENTS IN THE LAW, BUT ONCE YOU SET THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING, ONCE THAT PUBLIC HEARING OCCURS WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THAT SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, SINCE THIS IS A NEW POTENTIAL FEE, NOT A UPDATE TO A FEE, UH, ACTION HAS TO BE TAKEN BY COUNSEL WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ON WHETHER OR NOT TO IMPOSE SUCH A FEE.
SO, UM, THE SECOND OPTION JUST PUTS A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, UH, ON THAT FROM WAITING FOR CALLING THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AND WOULD ALLOW US TO PACE IT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND COME THROUGH THROUGH APRIL.
UM, I'M GONNA PAUSE THERE AND ASK IF YOU'LL HAVE ANY OPINIONS OR PREFERENCES ON THIS.
I KNOW THAT'S HARD TO DO SINCE WE'RE JUST STARTING, BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THAT.
UM, YEAH, I, I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF, UM, WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING UP IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN MAY 7TH.
AND SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE BRAND NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT YOU HAVE YOUR FIRST MEETING WITH AND DECISION-MAKING, AND A WHOLE SET OF NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN INVOLVED IN AND REALLY KNOWN THIS.
IS THERE A WAY TO PUSH IT UP LIKE ONE MEETING? I MEAN, IT'S NOT A LOT, IF YOU, IF YOU CAN GET THE LAST, UH, ORDINANCE TUBE DONE BY MAY 5TH, THEN THE EVENTS THAT OTHERWISE I WOULD RECOMMEND, WE PUSH IT OUT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SO THAT WE ALLOW THE NEW POTENTIALLY NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET UP TO SPEED ON THIS.
SO IF WE WERE TO TRY THAT, WE ORIGINALLY DID HAVE A SCHEDULE WHERE YOU WERE GOING TO TRY TO PUSH IT TO BE THE FIRST PUBLIC, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, SORRY, AN ORDINANCE FIRST READING ON APRIL 21ST FOLLOWED BY MAY 5TH.
UM, WHAT IS CHALLENGING IS THE REQUIREMENTS TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING, GET AN ADVERTISEMENT OUT TO THE NEWSPAPER AND THE NEWSPAPER HOLDING IT.
WE'RE MISSING IT BY LIKE THREE DAYS ON THAT EFFECT.
SO THAT WOULD ACTUALLY PUSH US INTO, UH, MAY THE MAY 5TH MEETING REGARDLESS.
SO WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
SO, UH, THIS WOULD GET US JUST, JUST PAST THAT, BUT TO YOUR POINT, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A NEW COUNCIL.
THE OTHER THING WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE IS NOT TRYING TO PUSH THIS TOO DEEP INTO JULY WHEN BUDGET SEASON REALLY STARTS HEATING UP, GOING INTO AUGUST WHEN COUNCIL'S GOING, GONNA HAVE A LOT OF THEIR THINGS ON THEIR PLATE AS WELL.
AND, AND YEAH, SO BECAUSE IN THE FIRST SCHEDULE YOU HAVE THE SECOND ORDINANCE, POTENTIALLY A BRAND NEW THREE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE, YOU'VE GOT BOTH, UM, BOTH ORDINANCE DISCUSSIONS, BUT THERE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF WEEKS OLD, YOU GOT POTENTIALLY THREE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAD JUST A FEW WEEKS OLD.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I ASKED I HAVE NO PREFERENCE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT SHORTER OR EXTENDING IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO KIND OF TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST GETTING KIND OF DRINKING THROUGH A FIRE HOSE WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF AS WELL, MAKING SURE THAT THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS AND THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING.
AND WE COULD, WE COULD POSSIBLY DO SOMETHING LIKE A COUNCIL WORKSHOP IF WE WANTED TO, WITH THE NEW NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE AND TALK WITH THEM ABOUT IT BEFORE THE JUNE 2ND ON THE SLOWER SCHEDULE.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD ALWAYS DO TO TRY TO GIVE THEM SOME EXTRA TIME.
THAT'S ALL I HAD, I THINK, GOING WITH THE FINISHING JUNE OPTION AND A SPECIAL OF THE MEETING WITH THE COUNCIL WORKSHOP WITH THE COUNCIL WORKS THE BEST, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE THREE NEW COUNCIL PEOPLE THAT DID THIS HUGE DECISION.
WITH THE SEC, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WITH JUST BEYOND THE STUDY ASSUMPTIONS.
SO THE NEW COUNCIL WOULD STILL GET TO WEIGH ON AND EVERYTHING.
BESIDES THE STUDY ASSUMPTIONS, THE NEW MEMBERS, COMMISSION, YOUR MOS, YOUR THOUGHTS, UM, UM, I'M THINKING, ALL RIGHT.
UH, WELL, I THINK I WOULD PREFER, UM, TO FINISH IN JUNE, UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A NEW COUNSELING AND WITH ME BEING NEW, IT'S HARD TO CATCH UP WITH ALL THIS STUFF.
SO I, I HAVE PITY FOR NEW PEOPLE.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST OPTION IF YOU, YOU KNOW, WANT TO GET ANSWERS AND STUFF YOU NEED FROM MR. HAMPTON COMMISSIONER ALANDRA, JUNE SOUNDS GOOD.
I DEFINITELY THINK JUNE IS THE BEST, THE SMART WAY TO GO.
SO WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WE ARE OVERWHELMINGLY IN FAVOR OF HAVE THE OPTION WITH IT FOR JUNE FINISH.
WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL PLAN TO, TO MOVE THAT WAY.
I WAS ALSO GOING TO SAY, IF WE GET INTO DISCUSSIONS DURING THIS AND Y'ALL FEEL LIKE Y'ALL NEED MORE MEETINGS, WE CAN DO THAT ON A BI-WEEKLY BASIS AS OPPOSED TO MONTHLY, BUT
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THIS ALLOWS FOR SOME EXTRAS IN THERE AS WELL.TOTAL SIDE QUESTION, THAT'S REALLY NOT EVEN SOMEWHAT RELATED.
DO WE KNOW IF NUMBERS ONE, THREE AND FIVE ARE RUNNING AGAIN? I DON'T THINK ANY OF US CAN ANSWER THAT AT THIS POINT.
MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE CAN, I CAN.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO START TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT POLICY BEFORE WE GET TO POLICIES.
SO, UH, BUT THIS IS JUST SOMETHING I ALWAYS LIKE TO BRING UP, UH, KIND OF AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS.
SO, UM, USUALLY WHEN, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ROADWAY IMPACT FEES STUDIES, THE QUESTION THAT'S COME ABOUT IS THERE, IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO DO TRANSPORTATION REQUIREMENTS THAN THE CURRENT CODE OR TIS OR THINGS LIKE THAT? UM, AND WHAT WE ALWAYS TRY TO EMPHASIZE IS, UM, WITH IMPACT FEES, THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON ARE, IS IT, IS IT A PREDICTABLE SYSTEM? IS IT EQUITABLE? IS THE PROCESS TRANSPARENT? ARE THE FUNDS FLEXIBLE TO BE SPENT IN DIFFERENT PLACES? UH, IS THE PROCESS LEGAL AND IS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S GOALS AND OBJECTIVES? SO WE USUALLY BELIEVE THAT THE IMPACT FEES DO MEET THESE, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT WE CAN, UH, COME TO AGREEMENT ON THAT OR DISAGREEMENT, BUT, UH, TALK THROUGH THAT.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO DO A QUICK REFRESHER ON ROAMING IMPACT FEES.
I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME NEW MEMBERS HERE.
UH, WE DID COME BACK IN OCTOBER AT A JOINT MEETING WITH COUNCIL AND WENT OVER SOME OF THIS WITH Y'ALL.
THAT WAS WHEN WE KICKED OFF THE PROJECT.
UM, BUT LET ME KIND OF JUST COVER SOME, SOME QUICK BASICS AND SOME SPECIFICS ON ROADWAY, IMPACT FEES.
AND THEN I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THE WHAT'S IN THAT REPORT.
UM, IN FACT, FEES ARE A ONE-TIME FEE ASSESSED AT PLATT AND PAID AT BUILDING PERMIT.
UH, THAT IS USUALLY A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHEN TIA FEES ARE A LOT OF TIMES COLLECTED AT, AT PLAT, UH, AS OPPOSED TO BUILDING PERMITS.
SO THAT'S ONE DIFFERENCE, UH, WITH CURRENT SYSTEM.
UM, AS I MENTIONED THERE IN CHAPTER 3 95 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, THERE'S A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF FEES.
THE CITY OF LENDERS HAD WATER AND WASTEWATER FOR, FOR MANY YEARS NOW, UH, BUT HAS NOT PREVIOUSLY HAD A ROADWAY IMPACT FEE.
UM, Y'ALL ARE NOT THE FIRST GUINEA PIGS TO DO THIS BY ANY MEANS.
THE DFW HAS HAD IT FOR 20 PLUS YEARS AND LOTS OF CITIES OUT THERE THAT ARE IN HIGH-GROWTH SUBURBAN AREAS, SIMILAR TO LEANDER, UM, AND IN THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, SINCE 2018, ACTUALLY 2019, UH, ROUND ROCK WAS THE FIRST ONE IN THIS AREA TO ADOPT IT.
THE ONE CLOSEST TO Y'ALL THAT IT HAS HAD IT FOR AWHILE WAS NEW BRAUNFELS.
UM, BUT NOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE FOLLOWED IN LINE WITH HOW TO GEORGETOWN, AUSTIN AND PFLUGERVILLE ALL ADOPTING.
UH, AND THEN THERE WERE SOME OTHERS THAT CAN JUST SURPRISE YOU.
THEY WERE CONSIDERING IT AND DIDN'T FINISH, OR ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS ON THE LIST UP HERE.
SO, UH, THERE'S DEFINITELY SEVERAL OTHER FOLKS DOING THIS.
AND THROUGH IT, THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE'LL SHOW YOU KIND OF COMPARISONS WITH WHAT THOSE CITIES DID ADOPT, UH, SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION AS YOU CONSIDER POLICY DECISIONS.
UM, WHAT'S IN THE STUDY, UH, DECODING THAT, THAT DOCUMENT THAT YOU'VE GOT IN YOUR PACKET, UM, REALLY, THERE'S A COUPLE OF COMPONENTS IN HERE.
I'M GOING TO COVER A FEW OF THEM TONIGHT.
UM, BUT REALLY WHAT I WANT TO KIND OF EMPHASIZE IS THE TWO BRACKETS ON THE RIGHT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THIS IS COMPLIANT WITH THE STATE LAW.
THAT'S OUR JOB AND OUR GOAL HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STUDY ITSELF, UH, IS COMPLIANT WITH THAT, GET YOUR WAY IN, ON, ON THE INPUTS TO THAT AND THE ASSUMPTIONS AND GET COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR THAT.
BUT ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT PART, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IS THAT AT THAT TIME, THERE IS A, IT'S A, IT'S A POLICY DECISION.
WHAT SHOULD THE COLLECTION RATE BE? ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO CONSIDER, LIKE CHANGING RATES FOR DIFFERENT LAND USES TO ADVANCED CITY OBJECTIVES, OFFERING DISCOUNTS FOR CERTAIN THINGS, CHANGING THINGS UP BASED ON WHERE THEY ARE ON THE CITY.
THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF WE'LL GET INTO IN THE FUTURE AND IT'S GOING TO BE VERY INTERACTIVE AS WELL AS I COME BACK.
AND WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD, GOOD TOOLS WE CAN USE TO TALK THROUGH THAT.
UM, BUT, UH, WE DID TALK ABOUT THE SERVICE AREAS BACK IN OCTOBER AND GOT SOME, SOME LEVEL OF DIRECTION ON THAT.
I'LL BRING THAT UP AGAIN TONIGHT AND TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER THINGS ON HERE.
THE ONE THING I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT, I SHOULD HAVE UNDERLINED IT IS, UM, THAT ORDINANCE IS ADJUSTABLE.
AND I THINK I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THIS GROUP IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMMUTING ABOUT SEMI-ANNUALLY AFTER ADOPTION.
IF IT WERE TO BE ADOPTED, I GOTTA KEEP SAYING IF IT WAS, IF IT IS ADOPTED, IT MAY NOT BE, UM, BUT IT IS ADJUSTABLE.
SO IF YOU GET A YEAR-END OR 18 MONTHS AND YOU SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE NEED TO CHANGE THINGS, YOU CAN DO THAT.
IT'S NOT A, NOT A, UM, UNCOMMON THING TO HAVE HAPPENED, SO YOU CAN CHANGE THAT ORDINANCE.
AND THEN THE LAW ALSO REQUIRES EVERY FIVE YEARS TO DO A FULL STUDY UPDATE.
AND RE-LOOK AT THOSE ASSUMPTIONS AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN AS PROJECTS GET BUILT IN GROWTH CHANGES.
WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT THE, WHAT THE FEES SHOULD BE.
SO HERE'S WHERE WE GET INTO THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WATER AND WASTEWATER, OUR SEWER AND ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.
AND THE MOST GLARING ONE ON HERE IS THERE'S A REALLY VAGUE LANGUAGE IN THE LAW THAT SAYS THAT SERVICE AREAS FOR ROADWAY MAY BE NO GREATER THAN SIX MILES.
WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS IS UP FOR INTERPRETATION.
BUT WHAT WE GENERALLY HAVE TAKEN THAT TO MEAN IS YOU CANNOT TRAVEL MORE THAN SIX MILES WITHIN AN AREA AND THE FUNDS NEEDED TO BE COLLECTED AND SPENT WITHIN THE SAME AREA.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE GOT INTO THE, UH, I'LL SHOW YOU THE MAP ON THE NEXT PAGE OF THE SERVICE AREAS THAT WE, WE HAVE BEEN ANALYZING THUS FAR.
UM, THE OTHER BIG DIFFERENCES IN WATER AND WASTEWATER.
A LOT OF TIMES THAT CCN OR AREA CAN GO OUT INTO THE ETJ OUTSIDE
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THE CITY LIMITS, AND THOSE FEES CAN BE COLLECTED OUTSIDE.ROADWAY SAYS YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY, UM, WHICH IS REALLY FUN BECAUSE YOU'LL ADOPT A STUDY, YOUR CITY LIMITS, YOU MAY ANNEX AFTER THE STUDY'S ADOPTED, AND THEN IT'S NOT APPLICABLE IN THE ANNEXED AREAS BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE SERVICE AREAS IN THE STUDY.
THAT WAS A LOT OF WORDS, BUT IT IS COMPLICATED.
UM, SO, UH, JUST AS A COMPARISON, ROUND ROCK AND PFLUGERVILLE ARE UPDATING THEIR STUDIES ABOUT A YEAR AFTER THEIR INITIAL ADOPTION TO ADD AN EXTERIOR SO THAT THEY CAN COLLECT IN THEM.
THESE ARE THE FOUR AREAS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.
AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THE RED CIRCLE, ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? SO IT'S SIX MILES BORDER TO BORDER SIX MILES FROM THE CENTER, CORRECT? YEAH.
SO IT'S SIX MILES FOR A SIX MILE TRIP INSIDE THE AREA.
THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO KEEP IT TO.
WE'VE DONE IT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT METRICS ON THESE FOUR.
WE LOOKED AT THE, IF YOU DID AN AREA OF A THREE MILE RADIUS CIRCLE, WHAT'S THE PERIMETER OR WHAT'S THE EAST WEST, NORTH, SOUTH LONGEST ROAD.
SO WE'VE CHECKED ALL THAT, ALL THESE AND THESE ALL, ALL MEET THOSE DIFFERENT METRICS.
UM, YOU MAY ASK WHY I HAVE A RED CIRCLE ON THE SCREEN.
UH, WE'LL GET INTO IT MORE LATER.
AND IT'S ALSO SOMETHING I'LL POINT OUT WHEN I PULL UP THE REPORT.
UM, WE WENT THROUGH THE ANALYSIS OF THE GROWTH AND THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THESE FOUR AREAS AND THE AREA IN GREEN SERVICE AREA, B IN THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF TOWN, IT HAD A SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER MAXIMUM FEE THAN ANY OF THE OTHER THREE.
A LOT OF THAT IS BEING DRIVEN BY NORTH LINE.
NORTHLINE HAS A REALLY HIGH DENSITY AND A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS ANTICIPATED.
AND SO WHAT THAT DOES IS WHEN YOU CALCULATE A MAXIMUM FEE, IT'S THE COST OF PROJECTS THAT YOU CAN RECOVER DIVIDED BY THE GROWTH.
SO IF YOU HAVE REALLY HIGH GROWTH, THAT'LL DRIVE THE FEE NUMBER DOWN IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS, BUT NOT A LOT OF GROWTH, THAT NUMBER CAN GET REALLY BIG.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND I'LL GET MORE TO LATER IS WE COULD POTENTIALLY PULL THAT TRIANGLE OUT AS ITS OWN SERVICE AREA, AND THEN IT MIGHT MAKE THE OTHER FOUR, A LITTLE BIT MORE EQUAL.
THE REASON THAT MATTERS AND I'LL, I'LL SPEAK SLOWLY.
AND CLEARLY HERE IS, UM, WHEN YOU GET TO THE POLICY SIDE, UM, YOU ARE LIMITED BY THE, UM, MAXIMUM FEES OF WHAT YOU COULD CHARGE IN EACH AREA.
IF ONE AREA IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER AND YOU'D LIKE A FLAT RATE AROUND THE CITY, YOU'RE LIMITED BY THE LOW ONE.
SO LET'S SAY ONE OF THEM IS A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND THEN THE OTHER THREE ARE 500.
YOU, IF YOU WANTED A FLAT RATE, YOU'D HAVE TO MAKE IT A HUNDRED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GO HIGHER THAN THE ONE AREA.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE MOTIVATION POTENTIALLY BY ADDING OR CARVING OUT ANOTHER AREA, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT.
IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST THE NOTE WHERE YOU COULD HAVE A FEE IN ONE AREA THAT'S DIFFERENT, SIGNIFICANT SUBSTANTIALLY THAT OTHER AREAS, WHICH COULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON WHERE PEOPLE DECIDE TO DEVELOP.
I'LL COME BACK TO THIS, JUST SOMETHING TO CHEW ON, UH, WHEN WE GET TOWARDS THE END, I'LL COME BACK TO IT AND KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT THE NUMBERS SHAKE OUT TO BE AND HOW DIFFERENT THAT IS.
SO, SO CAN THE FEES BE ADJUSTED BASED ON THE FUTURE NEEDS OR DESIRES OF THE CITY, MEANING THAT YOU COULD LOWER A FEE IN ORDER TO ATTRACT DEVELOPMENT TO A SPECIFIC ZONE VERSUS THE OTHER FEES, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO ATTRACT MORE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT ZONE? SURE.
SO REALLY I'LL GO BACK A FEW SLIDES AND COME BACK, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GETTING AT WITH OUR STUDY IS GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU LEGALLY CAN CHARGE.
IT'S JUST A CAP AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS UP TO THIS GROUP TO TALK THROUGH AND DECIDE.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'LL GET TO TALK ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS OF, DO YOU WANT THIS AREA TO BE LOWER OR HIGHER THINGS LIKE THAT? MY POINT MORE SO IS WHAT'S YOUR STARTING POINT.
AND SO IF YOU DO WANT TO CHANGE THOSE BOUNDARIES TO CHANGE THE STARTING POINTS, WE CAN DO THAT.
NOW, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO DO IT.
IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THOSE.
SO NO SIDEBAR TODAY, THE QUESTION WOULD BE, CAN YOU WAIVE FEES FOR CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT? YOU CANNOT WAIT FEES FOR THE STATE LAW FOR IMPACT FEES.
UM, SO IT HAS, THE MONEY HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IT CAN BE FROM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FROM, FROM SOMETHING, SOME OTHER FUND, BUT IT HAS TO BE PAID.
IT CANNOT BE SUPPLEMENTED FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, CORRECT? YEP.
SO ANOTHER BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WATER AND WASTEWATER, UH, WATER OR WASTEWATER IS I LIKE TO SAY IT'S EASIER, UM, FOR MY FRIENDS THAT DO THOSE, THOSE FEE STUDIES.
UM, THE REASON I SAY THAT IS, UH, USUALLY DEVELOPMENTS IN WATER AND WASTEWATER ARE DEFINED BY, I MEAN, YOUR SIZE, UH, AND IT'S NOT AS BIG OF A LIST WITH ROADWAY.
IT'S WHERE DID THE CARS GO? HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS GENERATED, AND WE HAVE THIS BIG FANCY TABLE I'LL TALK ABOUT LATER, ALSO IN THE REPORT.
UM, BUT THE SIMPLEST WAY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BOIL THAT DOWN, UH, FOR DEVELOPMENT IS, UM, A SERVICE UNIT CALLED A VEHICLE MILE.
ALL THAT SIMPLY MEANS IS IT'S ONE CAR GOING ONE MILE.
UH, AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY IN THE AFTERNOON PEAK, WE DO ALL OF OUR STUDY BASED ON THE MOST INTENSE TRAFFIC TIME OF THE DAY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ADEQUATELY COMPARING EVERYTHING FOR THAT.
SO, UM, THAT'S HOW WE CONVERT EVERYTHING.
SO LET ME SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE, UM, OR TWO EXAMPLES,
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SHOULD I SAY? UM, SO A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, UM, AND DON'T ASK ME WHY THESE NUMBERS ARE SO SPECIFIC IT'S ENGINEERING, UM, IN CHARTS AND GRAPHS BASED, BUT ON AVERAGE THERE ARE, UH, JUST, I'LL JUST SAY JUST ABOUT ONE CAR TRIP FOR EACH HOUSE, UH, IN THE AFTERNOON PEAK, UM, BASED ON, UH, TRAVEL LINKS IN THIS AREA, A RESIDENTIAL TRIP SPECIFICALLY RESIDENTIAL, CAUSE YOU'LL SEE THE NEXT SLIDE.IT'S ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF MILES.
SO THAT TRANSLATES TO 4.04 VEHICLE MILES PER SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.
AND THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT.
AND I'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER TOO, AGAIN, UH, IS THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE CONVERSION FACTOR FOR YOUR RATES.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE COMING UP WITH HERE.
SO THERE'S A BIG CHART CALLED THE LAND USE TABLE LATER ON I'LL, I'LL SHOW YOU THAT.
UH, BUT THAT CONVERTS ANY KIND OF LAND USE TO VEHICLE MILES TO THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FEES ARE.
UM, AND THE GOOD NEWS IS PART OF OUR CONTRACT AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS, IF IT'S ADOPTED IS WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE A NICE LITTLE WORKSHEET THAT YOU CAN JUST DROP IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT AND INTENSITY, AND IT WILL SPIT OUT NUMBERS FOR YOU.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT TAKES AWAY SOME OF THE MYSTIQUE FROM IT.
UM, THAT COMES OUT LATER AT THE END OF THE PROCESS.
UM, SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT IS LIKE A STRIP CENTER OR A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT GENERATES A DIFFERENT NUMBER OF VEHICLES, 3.4.
UM, ONE THING THAT'S INTERESTING IS THERE IS A REDUCTION ON THIS AND EXPLAIN THAT IS THERE'S A, UM, CONCEPT THAT YOU MIGHT MAKE A TRIP STOP BY SOMEWHERE ON THE WAY HOME FROM WORK AND THEN KEEP GOING HOME.
SO INSTEAD OF DOUBLE COUNTING TRIPS, THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS THAT THERE'S SOME, SOME MATH THERE TO SAY THAT A THIRD OF THE TRIPS THAT STOP AT STRIP CENTERS ARE ACTUALLY INTENDED TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO THAT IS CALCULATED INTO THIS IT'S CONTEMPLATED, UH, WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, AGAIN, YOU MULTIPLY IT TIMES THE TRIP LENGTH, AND NOW YOU'VE GOT YOUR CONVERSION FACTOR THAT VEHICLE MILES OR THE SERVICE UNITS.
SO I'M GETTING INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE, UH, COMPONENTS OF THE STUDY.
I MENTIONED THAT ONE OF THOSE IS THE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS.
UH, WE DID BASE THOSE OFF OF THE RECENTLY UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF WHAT'S PROJECTED FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS OF GROWTH, WHICH IS SUBSTANTIAL.
UM, WHAT THESE LANEY'S ASSUMPTIONS DO IS THEY, UH, ESTABLISH WHAT I CALL THE, UH, DENOMINATOR OF THE EQUATION.
AS I WAS MENTIONING EARLIER, IT'S THE AMOUNT OF COST OF PROJECTS DIVIDED BY GROWTH IN THOSE AREAS OR THOSE BOUNDARIES.
UH, AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO.
AND YOU'LL SEE THOSE DRAFT ONES HERE IN A MINUTE.
UM, THIS INCLUDES BOTH POPULATION AND EMPLOYMENT PROJECTIONS, UM, AND WE ALSO CALIBRATED THIS WITH HISTORICAL GROWTH, UM, IN THE AREA TO MAKE SURE IT WAS NOT, UM, OUT OF LINE.
UH, ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING I MENTIONED, THERE'S AN ASTERISK HERE.
UM, AN IMPACT FEE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN IS NOT THE SAME THING AS YOUR ANNUAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN.
THE REASON BEING IS THERE'S REALLY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS ON WHAT CAN GO IN HERE.
UH, THE MOST BASIC LITMUS TEST FOR ANY, UH, ROADWAY CIP AND AN IMPACT FEE IS IT HAS TO INCREASE AUTOMOBILE CAPACITY.
THAT IS KIND OF THE BASIS FOR THIS WHOLE FEE IS IT'S BASED ON INCREASED CAPACITY FOR THAT 10 YEARS OF GROWTH COMING.
UM, WHAT CAN BE INCLUDED THOUGH IS, IS ACTUALLY PRETTY LONG THERE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS CAN BE INCLUDED AS WELL AS SOFT COSTS LIKE SURVEYING AND ENGINEERING COSTS RIGHT AWAY COSTS ARE ALSO A PART OF THIS, WHICH IS A BIG SWING.
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THE TOTAL COSTS, AS YOU MAY HAVE SEEN, UH, LAND IS NOT CHEAP.
UM, AND THEN SOME MORE INTERESTING ONES ON HERE, UH, IS, UM, THE FINANCIAL COST OF DEBT TO FUND PROJECTS CAN ACTUALLY ALSO BE INCORPORATED.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A COMPONENT TO THE STUDY WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY MODELING OUT THE DEBT THAT'S REQUIRED TO FUND PROJECTS.
IF YOU'RE NOT, NOT DOING EVERYTHING, UH, CASH FUNDED, WHICH IS NOT TYPICALLY HOW THE CITY HAS DONE IT, SO THAT ALSO CAN BE RECOVERED.
AND THEN THE ACTUAL COST OF DOING THE STUDY OR UPDATING IT, WHAT THE CITY HAS BEEN PAYING US CAN ALSO BE RECOUPED IN THIS PROCESS.
SO, UM, IF A PROJECT IS NOT ON THIS CIP, IT IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDS COLLECTED FROM THE PROGRAM.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT LIST, RIGHT.
UH, BECAUSE OF THE PROJECT COMES UP, THAT'S NOT ON THERE, SORRY, WE CAN'T USE THE FUNDS TO PAY FOR IT.
UM, WE CANNOT USE THIS TO PAY FOR, UM, REPAIR OF EXISTING STREETS, ALL THE MAINTENANCE BUDGETS THAT CAN'T CROSS OVER WITH US.
THIS IS EXPLICITLY CAPITAL FOR GROWTH.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO DISCOUNT, UH, UH, THIS IS IN THE, SOME OF THE SLIDES AT THE VERY BACK, BUT, UM, WE CANNOT CHARGE FOR PEOPLE ALREADY USING THE ROADS.
SO AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE YOU HAVE, WE TALKED ABOUT HERE, WAIT A MINUTE AGO, IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD TODAY.
LET'S PRETEND I KNOW IT'S NOT TRUE, BUT LET'S SAY IT GETS EXPANDED TO FOUR LANES.
THERE'S CARS ON IT TODAY THAT ARE USING IT.
WE CAN'T CHARGE FUTURE GROWTH FOR THE FULL COST OF EXPANSION.
WE HAVE TO DISCOUNT IT FOR WHAT'S USING IT TODAY VERSUS WHAT IT COULD HOLD.
UM, AND THEN, UH, WE, THE COSTS FOR STAFF TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM FOR SALARIES AND STAFF TIME CANNOT BE CHARGED OR CAN NOT BE USED FOR THESE FEES.
SO BEFORE I GO INTO THE STUDY SPECIFICALLY FOR LANDER, ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE TOPICS, KEEP GOING, OKAY, LET ME KEEP POWERING THROUGH, HOLD ON.
UM, SO, UH, THE GROWTH IN LEANDER, IT'S EXTRAORDINARY.
SO, UM, THIS IS THE PROJECTED GROWTH.
THIS CHART REPRESENTS OVER 10 YEARS.
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YOU'RE A GRAPHICAL PERSON IT'S ON THE NEXT PAGE, THE TOTALS FOR THAT.SO ALL THE TABLE AND A GRAPH VERSION OF THIS, UM, YOU MAY BE ASKING ME WHAT IS BASIC SERVICE AND RETAIL.
UM, THOSE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF EMPLOYMENT THAT ARE IN THE, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN MODEL.
UH, BASIC IS BASICALLY INDUSTRIAL SERVICE IS GOING TO BE YOUR OFFICE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, UH, OR SIMILAR DEVELOPMENTS.
AND THEN RETAIL IS KIND OF YOUR TYPICAL, UH, COMMERCIAL RETAIL ACTIVITY.
UM, THOSE ARE SPECIFICALLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT TRIPLE LENGTHS.
I WAS SHOWING YOU HOW THEY HAVE DIFFERENT TRIP RATES AND TRIP LINKS.
THESE ARE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT WE, WE INCORPORATED IN THAT, AND THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH, UM, REGIONAL TRAVEL MODELING.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A SPLIT OF SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY.
UM, IF YOU DO QUICK MATH AND FIGURE OUT, UH, THREE PEOPLE PER HOUSE, APPROXIMATELY THREE TO FOUR PEOPLE, THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING TO LEAN INTO THE NEXT 10 YEARS, BUT THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WHAT'S PROJECTED.
UM, AND THEN IT'S ALSO NOT OUT OF LINE WITH, UM, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN GROWTH.
I DON'T KNOW, ROBIN, IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF LAST YEAR, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SINGLE-FAMILY OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD 2000 ISH, UH, IS THAT INCLUDED MULTI-FAMILY OKAY.
SO YEAH, I WOULD SAY WE WERE EVEN CONSERVATIVE HERE EVEN THOUGH IT'S REALLY AGGRESSIVE ON THE GROWTH.
UH, BUT THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING FROM THE, UM, FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE GROWTH PROJECTIONS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS FROM 2021 TO 2031.
UM, THIS IS A LOT, UH, IT'S ONE OF THE HIGHER ONES I'VE SEEN IN THE REGION, UH, EXCLUSIVE OF AUSTIN BEING A VERY LARGE CITY, BUT OVER THE OTHER SUBURBS IN THE NORTH YA'LL ARE PROBABLY THE HIGHEST IN TERMS OF THE GROWTH THAT Y'ALL ARE PROJECTING.
SO JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT DOESN'T SOUND OUT OF LINE FOR ME WITH THE INTERIM, WHICH I'VE BEEN DOING.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, OOPS, THAT'S THE GROWTH CHART, UH, FOR A GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION.
I DID MENTION EARLIER ABOUT, UH, SERVICE AREA BE OUT HERE THAT ONE HAS THE HIGHEST IN BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL, BUT A GOOD CHUNK OF THAT IS BEING DRIVEN BY NORTH LINE, WHICH IS, UH, INSIDE OF THE 180 3, 180 3, A TRIANGLE SELECT A CALL IT, UM, AND THEN IN THIS PLAN, I'M GOING TO SKIP THROUGH THESE SLIDES A LITTLE QUICKER, JUST BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF DETAIL, BUT, UM, THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
UM, THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES OF ROADWAY PROJECTS ON THERE.
AND THEN THERE'S FIVE TYPES OF INTERSECTION PROJECTS.
UH, THESE ARE ALL PASSING THAT LITMUS TEST OF ADDING CAPACITY.
IT'S NEW ROADS, WIDENING ROADS, ACCESS MANAGEMENT IS BASICALLY AS A MEDIAN PROJECTS THAT ACTUALLY INCREASES ROADWAY CAPACITY BY ABOUT 10% OR SO, ROUGHLY BASED ON SOME STUDIES OUT THERE, BUT THAT WOULD BE LIKE ADDING A MEDIAN ON BAGHDAD OR HERE ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN.
UH, THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT TYPE OF PROJECT IS.
UM, AND THAT'S BAD ENGLISH OR GRAMMAR PREVIOUS BOND PROJECT, NOT PREVIOUSLY, UH, PREVIOUS BOND PROJECT, UH, IS REMEMBER I TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU CAN ACTUALLY PAY FOR DEBT SERVICE.
THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WERE COMPLETED IN THE PAST THAT HAVE EXCESS CAPACITY FOR THAT 10 YEARS OF GROWTH THAT YOU'RE STILL PAYING THAT SERVICE ON THOSE PROJECTS CAN ALSO BE INCLUDED AND ALLOWED FOR.
SO WE'VE GOT THOSE CONTEMPLATED AS WELL IN HERE.
UH, WE ALSO INCLUDE AN INTERSECTION PROJECTS KNOWING THAT THOSE ARE, ARE IMPORTANT.
UM, AGAIN, UH, THESE PROJECTS, I SHOULD HAVE SAID, THIS ARE ALL BASED OFF OF THE RECENTLY ADOPTED TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.
SO THESE ARE ALL IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BACK IN MAY AND AMENDED, UH, IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR.
I DO NOT INTEND TO READ THIS OFF THE SLIDE TO YOU, BUT I WANT, I DID WANT TO EXPLAIN, AS YOU MIGHT ASK WHY WE HAVE A SINGLE PROJECT WITH FOUR, THREE LINES ON HERE.
SO LIKE BOULEVARD, IT'S ONE PROJECT, BUT SPLIT UP INTO FOUR PIECES.
UM, THE REASON FOR THAT GOES BACK TO THAT WEIRD REQUIREMENT FOR ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, THAT YOU CAN ONLY CHARGE IT IN THE CITY LIMITS.
SO YOUR CITY LIMITS IS NOT ALWAYS GOING TO FOLLOW A ROAD LINE.
A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL HAVE HOLES OR GAPS OR CUTS.
UH, SO WE HAVE TO BE REALLY METICULOUS AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT OVER COUNTING AND NOT INCLUDING PIECES OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT FALL IN THE ETJ.
SO THAT'S WHY THESE LISTS ARE LONGER THAN YOU EXPECT.
IT'S PROBABLY CLOSER ON THE ORDER OF 50 OR 60 PROJECTS, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REPORT, IT'LL LOOK LIKE A HUNDRED SOMETHING BECAUSE WE HAD TO SPLIT IT UP INTO SOMEBODY'S PIECES.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO ILLUSTRATE.
UM, THESE ARE AGAIN, TABLE VERSION GRAFTERS AND WHICHEVER YOU PREFER THIS ILLUSTRATES PROJECTS, I'M GOING TO MOVE A LITTLE BIT MORE QUICKLY THROUGH THIS, BUT THERE'S DIFFERENT COLORS TO REPRESENT THE, UH, THE DIFFERENT ROADWAY PROJECTS.
UH, AND THEN THERE'S THESE LITTLE GREEN CIRCLES TO REPRESENT INTERSECTION PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THESE, UM, SERVICE AREA.
A HAD A LOT OF NEW ROADS ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE, WHICH DROVE A LOT OF THAT FEE.
IT IS ONE OF THE HIGHER FEES WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REPORT, WHICH I'LL SHOW IN A FEW MINUTES, UH, AND THEN THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF, UM, WIDENINGS AND, UH, MEDIA AND PROJECTS AS WELL IN HERE, NOT AS MANY INTERSECTION PROJECTS, UH, BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE, WHAT I THINK I WAS GOING TO SAY IF THERE WAS AN INTERSECTION PROJECT, BUT IT FELL ON A WIDENING OR SOME OTHER KIND OF PROJECT, WE ASSUME THAT THAT COST WOULD ALSO GET ROLLED UP INTO THE WIDENING AS OPPOSED TO IT BEING A SEPARATE PROJECT, UM, FOR SERVICE AREA B AGAIN, THIS IS THE MOST STARK EXAMPLE OF COUNTY ROAD, TWO 70.
IT RUNS IN AND OUT OF THE CITY LIMITS SINCE.
SO THERE'S NINE PIECES OF THAT.
UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT LOVELY BROKEN UP, UH, AND ILLUSTRATED WELL ON THE PURPLE LINE, GOING NORTH SOUTH ON THE MAP.
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NOTICE HERE, A WAIVER.WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT EARLIER IN THE MEETING TONIGHT.
UM, THAT PROJECT IS THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS IT.
UM, SO THAT WAS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, WE'RE ONLY INCLUDING COSTS, UM, EXCUSE ME, UH, EXPECTED TO BE INCURRED BY THE CITY.
SO FOR THAT PROJECT SPECIFICALLY, IT WAS THE COMMITMENT IN THE CIP TO RIGHT OF WAY ON THE SPEND OF ABOUT 13.9 MILLION AND OTHER PLACES WHERE THE PROJECTS MAY NOT HAVE AS MUCH DETAIL.
UH, THERE WAS AN ASSUMPTION MADE AS A PERCENTAGE, UH, OF TYPICAL PROJECTS WHEN IT'S A SPLIT COST BETWEEN WILLIAMSON COUNTY OR TXDOT.
SO, UM, BUT THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.
UM, WE'RE ONLY INCLUDING CITY COSTS ON HERE.
NOT, NOT, UH, NOT OTHER PARTNERS OF AGENCIES ARE QUOTE UNQUOTE DIPPING INTO MULTIPLE BUCKETS FOR THAT.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S ONE EXAMPLE ON THIS ONE AT A PAST PROJECT.
SO METRO DRIVE DOWN HERE BE 19, UM, GOING OVER KIND OF THE NORTHLAND AREA THAT'S BEEN BUILT, BUT THERE'S THAT SERVICE ON IT AND IT'S GOT ACCESS CAPACITY FOR FUTURE GROWTH.
SO THAT WAS INCLUDED AS AN EXAMPLE PROJECT, UH, SEE AGAIN, MORE PROJECTS, UH, THIS IS YOUR MORE BUILT OUT PART OF TOWN.
UH, SO THERE ARE FEWER PROJECTS, UH, THAT COULD BE DONE IN THIS AREA OR WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE TMP.
AND THEN INDEED, THIS IS AN AREA THAT HAS, UM, UH, QUITE A FEW PROJECTS, BUT THE OTHER THING THAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF TOWN IS THERE'S A LOT OF FLOOD PLAIN.
UH, AND SO THE PROJECTS USUALLY GET MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE OF BRIDGES AND CULVERTS AND A BANK MAIN REQUIREMENTS.
UH, SO WHEN YOU CROSS MORE FLOODPLAIN PROJECTS, USUALLY GET A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE AND THESE KINDS OF AREAS.
SO IN THE BACK OF THE REPORTS, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DIG INTO THE DETAILS, WE HAVE A VERY DETAILED COST ESTIMATE FOR ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.
UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PIECES ON IT.
UM, WHAT I WILL SAY THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, ON HERE, TWO THINGS WE DID INCLUDE AN ESTIMATE OF RIGHT OF WAY COSTS BASED ON HISTORICAL PROJECTS.
SO THAT WAS ANYWHERE FROM THE ORDER OF 15 TO 30% OF THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
UH, IN ADDITION, UM, WE DID NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING RELATED TO NEW UTILITY LINES OR UP-SIZING.
SO A LOT OF TIMES I KNEW ROADWAY PROJECTS GOING IN.
SOMETIMES THERE'LL BE AN EXTENSION OF A WATER OR SEWER.
UH, WE CANNOT INCLUDE THOSE COSTS BECAUSE THOSE HAVE TO BE PAID FOR IN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES.
SO IT MAY BE VISUALLY ONE PROJECT, BUT WHAT YOU'LL HAVE TO KIND OF BASICALLY KEEP SEPARATE ACCOUNTS TO PAY FOR THOSE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.
SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? UM, I MENTIONED THIS LAND USE VEHICLE MODEL EQUIVALENTS, THE TABLE, IT'S IN THE REPORT IT'S TABLED OUT AND SAID, I DIDN'T WANT TO THROW ANOTHER BIG CHART ON HERE.
THIS IS SHOWING YOU THOSE CONVERSION NUMBERS, UH, TO GET FROM A DEVELOPMENT TYPE TO AN ACTUAL VEHICLE MILES AMOUNTS.
UM, THERE'S 63 LAND USES THAT MAY SEEM LIKE A LOT, BUT YOU'D BE SURPRISED WE PROBABLY MISSED SOME THAT YOU MAY WANT.
SO FEEL FREE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT IN THE FUTURE.
WE'RE DISCUSSING A POSSIBLE ACTION BEFORE I GET TO THAT.
UM, I DID WANT TO, UH, PULL OPEN THE REPORT REAL QUICK AND SHOW YOU SOMETHING UH, I MENTIONED THE LADY'S VEHICLE, UH, IN THIS CHART ON HERE, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO PAY ATTENTION TO IS THAT LAST COLUMN, THERE'S A LOT OF MATH THAT GOES INTO IT.
BUT IF YOU WANTED TO JUST TAKE AN EXAMPLE SITE AND SAY, THIS HAS THIS MANY HOUSES, WHAT'S MY CONVERSION NUMBER.
YOU COULD LOOK THAT UP AND THEN WHAT YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN ACTUALLY APPLY THAT TO THE PREVIOUS STABLE.
AND AGAIN, THE LINE TO PAY ATTENTION TO HERE IS THE, THE LAST LINE, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM FEE PER VEHICLE MILE.
SO YOU WOULD TAKE ONE NUMBER FROM ONE CHART AND APPLY IT TO THE OTHER.
THAT'S HOW YOU CAN TEST OUT WHAT WOULD A, WHAT A DEVELOPMENT PAY.
UM, SO I DID, THIS IS WHERE I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT DIFFERENCE IN COSTS THAT I MENTIONED ABOUT B.
UM, SO IS, THIS IS A, B, C, AND D.
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WE, WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING SOME OF THE NUMBERS FOR THE YELLOW AREAS OUTSIDE OF HERE.SO WE'LL HAVE ALL THIS FILLED OUT NEXT TIME.
THESE NUMBERS SHOULD NOT CHANGE SUBSTANTIALLY IT'S IT'S ABOUT 95 TO 98% OF THESE NUMBERS.
SO THEY WON'T GO DOWN VERY MUCH.
UM, BUT A SIMPLE EXAMPLE TO USE, I MENTIONED THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE EARLIER WAS ABOUT FOUR WAS THE CONVERSION FACTOR.
SO IF YOU MULTIPLY THESE NUMBERS BY FOUR, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM FEE PER HOUSE, APPROXIMATELY, UH, BUT B IS SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER.
SO IT'S ABOUT, UM, THAT WOULD BE A MAXIMUM FEE CLOSER TO THE ORDER OF 1500 TO 2000 A HOUSE.
UH, WHEREAS A IS YOUR HIGHEST, WHICH WOULD BE CLOSER TO ABOUT, UH, EIGHT OR 9,000 A HOUSE.
UM, SO THERE'S A PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE THERE JUST FROM BEING ON ONE SIDE OF THE 180 3 OF THE OTHER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HERO WAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THAT UP.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, I'LL GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION, FEEL FREE TO, WE CAN COME BACK TO THE REPORT IF YOU LIKE, DO YOU HAVE, UM, HAVE YOU CALCULATED WHAT THE EFFECT WOULD BE ON EACH OF THE FOUR ZONES? IF WE DO THAT FIFTH ZONE CARVE OUT, I HAVEN'T DONE THE MATH ON IT, UH, YET, BUT MY, UH, LOOKING AT WHAT PROJECTS ARE IN THAT SMALL AREA, UH, AND THE GROWTH OF THAT SCENARIO, IT'S ALMOST CERTAIN THAT B WOULD GO UP AND THEN I'LL JUST PRETEND FOR NOW IT'S CALLED E THAT EXTRA AREA.
IT SHOULD PROBABLY BE A FAIRLY LOW NUMBER BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH GROWTH WITH SOPHIE PROJECTS.
I'LL HAVE TO GO RUN THE NUMBERS THAT WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT HERE FIRST, UM, GET Y'ALL'S INPUT BEFORE WE GO RUN ALL THAT MATH.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UH, FOR TONIGHT, AGAIN, NO ACTION HAS TO BE MADE TONIGHT, BUT WE DO, UH, WE ARE ON, UH, ATTRACT TO HAVE A MARCH 17TH COUNCIL MEETING, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UM, THE GROWTH ASSUMPTIONS, SERVICE AREAS AND THE PROJECTS WRAPPED UP BY THEN.
UM, AND SO WE'D PROBABLY LOOK FOR AN ACTION AT THE MEETING.
NEXT MEETING WE'RE PLANNING IS FEBRUARY 24TH.
UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO MORE THAN THAT IF WE NEED TO, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT TO, TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS WITH THAT.
I KNOW THAT'S A LOT TO ABSORB, SO I APPRECIATE Y'ALL STAY WITH ME.
I HAVE ONE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS READING THIS RIGHT.
I, I WENT THROUGH AND ADD IT UP THE ROADWAY PROJECTS, AND IT CAME TO ABOUT 335 MILLION.
AND THE MAXIMUM ROADWAY IMPACT FEES WE COULD CHARGE IS 228 MILLION, CORRECT.
MEANING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO FUND A GLEASON 107 MILLION WITH BONDS, UH, OR OTHER SOURCES LIKE GRANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT YEAH, LET ME, LET ME SHOW YOU SOMETHING IN HERE IN ONE SECOND.
SO, UM, I'LL JUMP AHEAD TO HERE A LITTLE BIT TO HIT THE POINT THAT YOU WERE JUST MAKING THERE.
SO YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT THAT THAT NUMBER IS LESS, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR THAT.
UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART HERE, I ASSUME THE WHOLE PIE CHART REPRESENTS THE 335 MILLION NUMBER THAT YOU MENTIONED, UM, WHAT YOU HAVE TO DISCOUNT AS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH OUR FANCY EQUATIONS AND FORMULAS AND TABLES, UM, THIS RED PIECE OF THE PIE, YOU REMEMBER HOW I MENTIONED THAT THERE'S EXISTING DEMAND ON THE ROADS.
THAT COULD BE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE SERVICE AREA, BUT I'VE SEEN IT ANYWHERE FROM 15%, ALL THE WAY UP TO 40% OF THAT, THAT LARGE PIE CHART NUMBER, DEPENDING ON THE AREA.
UM, THE OTHER THING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IS, UM, IF FOR SOME REASON WE CREATE A PROJECT IN AN AREA WHERE WE DON'T EXPECT THE GROWTH TO ACTUALLY SUCK UP ALL OF THE CAPACITY.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO SAY SOME OF THIS IS BEYOND THE 10 YEARS THAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR, AND IT'S EXCESS THAT WE HAVE TO ALSO CUT THAT OUT.
SO WE CUT IT ON BOTH SIDES OF REALLY WHAT'S THAT TEN-YEAR NEED, UM, VERSUS WHAT WE HAVE TODAY VERSUS WHAT'S NEED TO BE ON THAT.
THE OTHER PIECE, WHICH IS WHAT'S NOT REPRESENTED IN THE CHART YET, UH, IS THE CREDIT CALCULATION.
THAT'S WHERE I WAS SAYING IT'S ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT A 10 TO 15, OR SORRY, TWO TO 15% REDUCTION OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT REPORT.
UM, THAT IS THE CREDIT FOR FUTURE PROPERTY TAXES, AD VALOREM TAXES WE EXPECT FROM THAT GROWTH.
UM, SO THAT WE WERE SAYING, WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY ARE COMING IN, THEY'RE GOING TO PAY PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH WILL HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THINGS.
WE HAVE TO DISCOUNT FOR THAT AS WELL.
BASED ON THE LAW, WE COULD DO OUR FANCY CALCULATION, WHICH WE'RE COMING OUT TO TWO OR 15% OR THE OTHER OPTION.
THE LOG IS, IS JUST TO CUT THIS BIG PIE IN HALF AND THEN CONTINUE TO TAKE THESE OTHER PIECES OUT.
SO, UH, ALL THAT TO BE SAID, THAT'S A LOT OF THINGS TO SAY, REALLY WHAT THIS GROUP GETS AT IS THE PIECE OF THE PIE THAT YOU GET TO DECIDE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER VERSUS THE COLLECTION RATE IS WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE BETWEEN THE GREEN AND YELLOW? WHEN WE GET TO THE END OF THE PROCESS, THAT MAXIMUM FEE NUMBER REPRESENTS THE LEFTOVER IN GREEN, IN YELLOW.
AND THEN Y'ALL GET TO TALK ABOUT WHERE SHOULD THAT LINE FALL? SHOULD IT BE ALL IN DEVELOPMENT, SHOULD A PORTION OF IT BE, BUT THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS, AS YOU WERE SAYING, THERE'S STILL SOMETHING LEFT IN THE BACK.
SO THE OTHER THING I LIKE TO SAY, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO BRING IT UP.
UM, COMMISSIONER MADE, BUT HIS IMPACT FEES WILL NOT SOLVE
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EVERYTHING.THEY ARE ONE TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX.
AND SO YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE OTHER THINGS TO, TO HELP COMPLETE THAT FUNDING GAP.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING I LIKE TO SHOW IS A DIFFERENT VERSION OF THIS.
A LOT OF TIMES WHAT'LL HAPPEN IS, UM, STUFF JUST MAY NOT GET BUILT.
THAT'S WHAT THAT LITTLE RED AND BLACK PIECE MEANS.
SO IF IT'S NOT FUNDED, IT MAY NOT GET FILLED WITH WATER AND WASTE WATER.
THAT'S WHY THEY USUALLY GET PAID.
AND THEIR ENTERPRISE FUNDS, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WITH ROADWAYS.
PEOPLE CAN LIVE WITH TRAFFIC, RIGHT? SO, UM, THAT'S THAT'S POLICY DECISION TOO.
SO I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS NOW THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT OVER THE PAST YEAR WHERE THEY SAY OUR ROADS TOO SMALL.
AND I KNOW HERE A WAYS ON THE WAY TO BE BUILT, BUT, UH, IS A COUNTY ROAD, TWO 70 ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN, WHERE IT'S, THEY CALL IT A TWO LANE ROAD, BUT YOU CAN'T CROSS MOST OF THE BRIDGES, TWO CARS WIDE, AND THOSE HAVE TO BE BUILT OUT AND WE'RE LOOKING AT FUNDING, ALL OF THIS.
AND, UM, THERE, AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING THAT LINE BETWEEN WHAT WE WERE PAYING IN A, UH, IMPACT FEE VERSUS HAVING TO PAY FOR, UH, THROUGH BONDS OR OTHER METHODS.
NOBODY DEVELOPS YOU MAKE IT TOO LOW.
AND THEN THE CITIZENS HAVE TO PAY THAT.
THAT'S THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S A SIMPLIFIED VERSION OF ALL THIS.
YOU WANT TO BOIL IT DOWN? LISTEN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD IT ALL.
AND THE OTHER THING I DO ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THIS IS NOT A, WHAT I CALL A, A COMPLETELY NEW COSTS.
UM, SO THERE IS YOUR ROAD ADEQUACY FEE, WHICH I THINK IT WAS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, ROSS, THAT WENT UP TO TWO 50 PER, PER HOUSE.
IS THAT RIGHT? WASN'T THERE A ROAD ADEQUACY FEE AS WELL.
RIGHT? SO THERE, THERE ARE SOME COSTS ALREADY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT AND I'M SURE SOME OF THIS WILL HAVE INTERPLAY.
AND THEN IF THERE'S A FAMILY FOR IS AS WELL, IF PEOPLE DON'T DO THEM, THAT COSTS A CERTAIN AMOUNT, SO DEVELOPERS ARE PAYING TOWARDS IT.
AND THEN IF THEY DO DO AT TIA, THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS IDENTIFIED.
UM, WE CAN ALSO CAN KIND OF, WHAT WE'LL DO IN THIS PROCESS IS WE'LL SHOW SOME SAMPLE DEVELOPMENTS, WHAT THEY DID PAY VERSUS WHAT THEY COULD PAY, DEPENDING ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT Y'ALL ARE CONSIDERING.
WE'LL GET INTO COMPARISONS WITH OTHER CITIES NEARBY AND WHAT THEY CHARGED.
SO WE WILL HAVE SOME GOOD BACKGROUNDS IN TERMS OF THE FIRST COMMENT ABOUT, DOES IT DRIVE AWAY GROWTH? WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE CHARGING AND KIND OF GIVES YOU SOME MORE CONTEXT.
IS THERE A MINIMUM IMPACT FEE? NO, IT'S ABOUT MAXIMUM.
UM, WE ACTUALLY HAD A COMMUNITY, UM, TO THE NORTHWEST, UM, CITY OF COLLEEN.
THEY ADOPTED THE IMPACT FEE, BUT SET THE RATE AT ZERO BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT THE, UH, POLITICAL WILL AT THE TIME TO IMPOSE THE FEE.
UH, BUT THEY ADOPTED THE STUDY, WHICH WAS VALID FIVE YEARS FOR FIVE YEARS IN CASE THAT CHANGED AS COUNCILS CHANGED.
SO YOU CAN INSTEAD OF THE ZERO, BUT BACK TO COMMISSIONER CARPENTER'S POINT EARLIER, YOU CAN'T WAIVE IT.
BACK TO THE SERVICE AREA QUESTIONS.
SO THE LITTLE, THE LITTLE CIRCLE AREA, THE LITTLE AREA THAT YOU INDICATED IS SKEWING OFF THE COST AND BE CORRECT WITH ALL OF THE EXPECTED COMMERCIAL, WHICH YOU PROBABLY HEARD A LOT OF TONIGHT ALONG HERO WAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL WON'T THAT JUST WILL THAT SKEW IT EVEN FURTHER.
IS THAT WHY YOU, THAT LITTLE AREAS HAVING SUCH AN IMPACT? I KNOW NORTH LINE CENTER.
YEAH, THERE THERE'S LIKE IN THIS LITTLE AREA WHERE I PUT THE CIRCLE.
SO, SO B'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT BIGGER THAN THAT, BUT THERE THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF THE COMMERCIAL AND THE REST.
SO I WOULD SAY OF THAT AREA, ROUGHLY 40 TO 50% OF THE GROWTH OCCURS WITHIN THE TRIANGLE OUT OF THE WHOLE OLIVE B.
SO IF YOU WERE TO SPLIT IT OUT, THERE WOULD BE A LOWER GROWTH NUMBER, BUT MOST OF THE PROJECTS ACTUALLY FALL OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO THE EQUATION IS BASICALLY PROJECT COST OVERGROWTH.
SO IF YOU START MOVING THE BOUNDARIES AROUND THE GROWTH AND THE PROJECTS MOVE WITH IT, AND THAT'S WHY IN THEORY, BY CUTTING IT OUT, WE EXPECT THE FEE NUMBER TO BE HIGHER.
AND B IF WE CUT OUT THE PIECE OF MORPHOLINE AS ITS OWN AREA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I GUESS THAT LEAVES IT TO DECIDE IF WE WANT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TODAY, OR WE WANT YOU TO COME BACK AFTER YOU'VE CHEWED ON THIS FOR AWHILE.
UM, I HAVE NO FEELINGS EITHER WAY.
SO I'LL PULL THE COMMISSION COMMISSION, YOUR CARPENTER.
I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION LATER.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY TO MAKE ONE RIGHT NOW.
I COULD STUDY THIS A LITTLE MORE,
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ANTHONY.I'M THINKING WE SHOULD WAIT TO THERE'S WELL, OVER A HUNDRED PAGES, VICE CHAIRMAN AT THIS POINT, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
I THINK JUST LIKE TO HEAR YOUR VOICE HERE.
I WAS JUST INFORMED THAT THE POSTING WAS NOT FOR AN ACTION TONIGHT, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ONE.
UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THOUGH IS WOULD Y'ALL LIKE US TO LOOK AT THAT SCENARIO AS SOMETHING TO PRESENT BACK.
I THINK I LIKE TO SEE THE NUMBERS WITH THE CAR, BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE A RATIONAL DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THE HABIT WITHOUT SEEING WHAT, HOW IT AFFECTS.
WE'LL SEND IT OUT TO YOU IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.
SO YOU HAVE SOME TIME TO PROCESS AND THAT, THAT INCLUDES NORTH LINE AND THE LAGOON PROJECT AREA IS, I KNOW THE LAGOON IS ALSO QUITE, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE THE CIRCLE, SORRY.
THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CUTTING OUT WOULD BE BOUNDED BY A 1 93, 180 3 A AND HERO WAY.
SO IT'S, IT'S THE, IT'S THE OKAY.
CAUSE HERE ARE WAYS TO DRIVE NORTH OF THE LAGOON, CORRECT.
FALLS PARKWAY, RIGHT? IT IS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF 2243 AND 180 3, A RIGHT BY THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
AND, UH, THE, WE HAD A POLICE DEPARTMENT GUN RANGE, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, IF NOT, WE HAVE NO FURTHER BUSINESS.