Apr 14, 2022 P&Z Commission

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AT ONE O'CLOCK AND THIS IS THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF LANDER.

[2. Roll Call.]

[3. Director’s report to the Planning & Zoning Commission on actions taken by the City Council at the April 7, 2022, meeting]

AND THAT IS THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, MRS. GRIFFIN.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M REPORTING ON ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE APRIL 7TH MEETING, UM, THEY DID CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE SAN GABRIEL INDUSTRIAL MINOR PUD.

THIS WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.

UM, THEY DID APPROVE THE REQUEST WITHOUT THE CONDITION TO REMOVE ACCESS TO SAN GABRIEL, 180 3 A AND AUTO-PARK DRIVE.

THEY DID KEEP ALL THE OTHER CONDITIONS.

UM, THIS'LL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK FOR A SECOND READING.

UM, THEY ALSO COMPLETED THE SECOND READING OF THE M RANCH ZONING CASE.

THEY APPROVED THE REQUEST AND, UH, THAT'S IT FOR MY REPORT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[4. Review of meeting protocol.]

IF YOU LOOK ON THE WALL, IT WILL TELL YOU HOW WE CONDUCT OUR MEETINGS.

UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA, I WILL, UH, ENTERTAIN THAT RIGHT NOW, SEEING NONE WE'LL CLOSES AND COMMENTS, WHICH MOVES US TO

[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]

THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE MOST NEW APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER MAY A SECOND, SECOND BY VICE CHAIRMAN ALL IN FAVOR OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

[8. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 22-Z-006 to amend the current zoning of SFU/MH-2-B (Single-Family Urban/Manufactured Home) to LC-2-C (Local Commercial) on one parcel of land approximately 0.487 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R035493; and addressed at 607 Crystal Falls Pkwy, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 22-Z-006 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

YOU CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 22 DASH Z DASH 0 0 6 2 AMENDED THE CURRENT ZONING OF SFU SLASH M H DASH TWO DASH B SINGLE FAMILY, URBAN SLASH MANUFACTURED HOMES.

TWO LC DASH TWO DASH C LOCAL COMMERCIAL ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 0.487 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIGNS.

MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS PARCEL R 0 3 5 4 9 3 AND ADDRESSED AT 6 0 7 CRYSTAL FALLS, PARKWAY LEANDRA, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

SO THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.

THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A COMMERCIAL OFFICE CONDO PARK, UH, TO THE NORTH IS S F U M H TO BE, UH, IT IS RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

THE HIGHEST CHAPARRAL SUBDIVISION TO THE EAST IS, UH, LET'S LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP.

FIRST.

THERE WE GO TO THE EAST IS GC THREE C UH, IT'S A COMMERCIAL COMPLEX.

IT'S A CLARITY ICE CENTER.

I BELIEVE TO THE SOUTH IS A PUD WITH AN LC BASED ON, UM, TO THE SOUTH IS ALSO ANOTHER GC THREESY.

UH, THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE PARK THAT'S THE FID IS THE OAKS ON CRYSTAL FALLS, OFFICE CONDOS.

UH, AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS, UH, ANOTHER, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE LEANDRA DENTAL TO THE WEST IS ANOTHER GC THREESY PROPERTY.

AND CURRENTLY IT IS VACANT ENCOMPASSING.

THE, UH, SUBJECT TRACK IS THE HIGH CHAPARRAL SUBDIVISION, WHICH I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHICH INCLUDES COMMERCIAL LOTS ALONG CRYSTAL FALLS, PARKWAY AND SFU, M H LOTS TO THE SOUTH IS THE OAKS ON CRYSTAL FALLS, OFFICE PARK, A CONDO PUD AND ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL, WHICH WE DISCUSSED EARLIER.

THE PROPERTY CONTAINS NO FLOOD PLAIN, AND THERE ARE MANY TREES SCATTERED ON THE SITE.

TREE PRESERVATION AND MITIGATION WILL BE ADDRESSED AT TIME OF SITE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THE PROPERTY HAS ACCESS ONTO CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY THERE'S POTENTIAL RIGHT OF WAY, DEDICATION ALONG CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY, UH, ALONG WITH AN EIGHT INCH, UH, SIDEWALK PER OUR MASTER PLAN, TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.

IT ALSO INCLUDES AN EAST-WEST TRAIL SEGMENT FOR THE CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY TRAIL SYSTEM, EXISTING UTILITIES.

THERE IS BOTH WATER AND SEWER WITHIN THE CRYSTAL FALLS PARK RIGHT AWAY.

UH, THE PROPERTY SITS RIGHT NOW AND DEVELOPED A DEVELOPMENT AND WAS HE, UH, WAS HELD WITH STAFF ON SEPTEMBER THE 20TH, UH, 2021, NO CHANGES HAVE BEEN PROPOSED TO THE PROJECT SINCE THE DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD.

UM, THERE'S A LIST OF NOTIFICATION BULLETS.

SO TONIGHT IS THE FIRST, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE, UH, MAY 5TH AT THE CITY COUNCIL AND FOLLOWED BY A MAY 19TH, UH, CITY COUNCIL, SECOND READING AND FINAL OR SECOND PUBLIC

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UH, AS USUAL NOTICE WAS MAILED TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT FELL WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BY THE CITY STAFF AND THE AGENT, UH, REACHED OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500 FEET, UH, PER OUR COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.

UM, THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY OR ANY PROPERTIES USED AS SINGLE FAMILY, UH, THE APPLICANT INCLUDED THEIR, UM, UH, WORKSHEET AND COMMENT RESPONSES.

UH, SO THE FULL REPORT IS A ATTACHMENT EIGHT IN YOUR PACKET.

UH, THE ABOVE ITEMS BEING SAID, THE ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, DESIGNATION OF MULTI-USE CORRIDOR AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE AND COMPARABLE TO THE SURROUNDING LOUNGE LAND USES ALONG CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY.

UH, THAT BEING SAID, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT IF HE HAS A PRESENTATION AND THEN STAFF WILL BE HERE FOR ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. DALE, APPLICANT PRESENTATION, PLEASE.

HI, I'M TRACY ALLEN.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AT TDI ENGINEERING AND, UM, OUR CLIENT OWNS THIS LAND AT THE 6 0 7, UH, CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY.

AND, UM, HONESTLY OUR PRESENTATION IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT COREY GAVE.

THANK YOU WITH THAT.

I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION.

WE'LL BEGIN WITH PLEASE.

ONE VICE-CHAIRMAN NO QUESTIONS, NO ISSUES WITH THIS ONE.

THANK YOU, MR. GOOD COMMISSIONER MOSS.

I'M GOOD.

WHAT'S YOUR HAPPY AT ONE QUESTION FOR APPLICANT? OH, WHEN YOU SAY CONDO, DO YOU WANT TO STORE YOUR JUST ONE STORE? ULTIMATELY IT WILL BE SINGLE SINGLE STORY OFFICES.

OKAY, COOL.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ELANTRA, NO QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.

JUST ONE QUESTION FOR YOU AGAIN, IS YOU, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE YOUR OWN CURB CUT AND ACCESS OUT TO CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY? OR ARE YOU CONNECTING ONTO THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST OF YOU? BOTH? WE, UH, WE SUBMITTED A, UH, DRIVEWAY DETERMINATION TO GET A CURB CUT ON WHAT WILL BE A TWO LOT PROJECT, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE CROSS CONNECTED.

SO HELP THEM OUT TOO.

GREAT SOUND.

THE QUESTION I HAD AND I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM UP.

CONSIDER A MOTION AT THIS TIME.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER LANCE SHIPT.

I HAVE A SECOND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOSS, ALL IN FAVOR OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.

THAT BRINGS

[9. Discuss and consider action on Tree Removal Case 21-TRP-002 regarding removal of Significant and Heritage Trees associated with The Square at Crystal Falls Site Development generally located on the southeast of the intersection of Crystal Falls Parkway and S Bagdad Road, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Tree Removal Case 21-TRP-002 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Discussion Consider Action]

MR. DALE, YOU'RE UP AGAIN? YES, SIR.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE TREE REMOVAL PROCESS.

AS THERE ARE HERITAGE TREES, UH, THAT ARE TO BE REMOVED AS WELL.

THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO REMOVE 10 SIGNIFICANT TREES.

UH, THE BULK CALIPER OF THOSE ARE 213 CALIBER INCHES AND THREE HERITAGE TREES MEASURING 92 CALIBER INCHES, UH, TO THE NORTH.

WELL, THE PRETTY MUCH A BUTTON, UH, RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL ALL AROUND TO THE NORTH IS A COMMERCIAL SITE.

IT'S THE SEVEN 11 TO THE EAST IS ALSO , WHICH IS COMMERCIAL AS WELL.

IT'S AN EXPLORER, A PRESCHOOL AND DAYCARE CENTER, I BELIEVE TO THE SOUTH IS GCC AS WELL.

AND THAT IS A BUSINESS PARK COMMERCIAL TO THE WEST IS SFU TO BE.

AND THAT IS THE BOULDERS AT CRYSTAL FALLS SUBDIVISION.

UH, THE PROJECT INCLUDES WORK WITHIN TWO COMMERCIAL, LOTS LOCATED ON SOUTH BAGHDAD ROAD.

THEY PULLED IN THIS LITTLE LOT RIGHT HERE.

THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WEST OF THE COUNTY, GLEN, UH, SECTION EIGHT SUBDIVISION AND EAST OF THE BOULDER'S CREEK AT CRYSTAL FALLS, PHASE ONE SUBDIVISION ACROSS BAGHDAD ROAD.

THE PROPERTY CONTAINED SIGNIFICANT TREE COVER WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED, WHICH IS ATTACHMENT NUMBER FIVE IN YOUR, UH, PACKET.

THE TREES PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL AT THIS TIME INCLUDE THOSE WITHIN THE BUILDING PAD SITES, THE PAVEMENT AND FIRE LANES AND THE DETENTION POND AREA.

THE PROJECT HAS ACCESS ONTO BAGHDAD ROAD.

UH, AGAIN, THE PROJECT INCLUDES TWO TRACKS, WHICH ARE BOTH SITTING, UH, UNDEVELOPED.

THE COMPOSITE ZONING

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SO YOU CAN REMOVE UP TO 50% OF THE SIGNIFICANT TREES BETWEEN, UH, THE CALLA BRANCHES OF EIGHT TO 18.

UH, DAVID MAY BE REMOVED WITHOUT A MITIGATION.

AND IF YOU GO OVER THAT, THEN YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO HIT A RATIO OF ONE-TO-ONE REPLACEMENT.

UH, TREES 18 TO 26 INCH CALIBER MAY BE REMOVED WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

AND THE REPLACEMENT RATIO OF THOSE TREES ARE TWO TO ONE.

HERITAGE TREES, UH, ARE GREATER THAN 26 CALIBER INCHES AND REQUIRE THE APPROVAL OF BOTH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.

THEIR REPLACEMENT RATIO IS THREE TO ONE AND A REMOVAL FEE IN THE AMOUNT OF $300.

SO IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE WAS A, UH, PROPOSED TREE PRESERVATION PLAN THAT FOLLOWS THE SITE PLAN.

UH, THE MITIGATION, THEY ARE OVER THE 50% FOR THE EIGHT TO 18, UH, AND OH 76, UH, CALIBER REPLACEMENT INCHES.

UM, LET'S SEE HOW WE DO THIS, UH, AS PART OF THE MITIGATION PROCESS AND THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING TO PAY THE MITIGATION FEES IN THE AMOUNT OF $150 PER CALIPER INCH OF REPLACEMENT TREE IN LIEU OF PLANTING NEW TREES.

SO THERE WAS A BREAKDOWN PROVIDED.

UM, I TOOK THE, THE, UH, TREE PRESERVATION PLAN LIST AND KIND OF BULLETED, UH, SOME OF THE ITEMS. SO THE SIGNIFICANT TREES BEING REMOVED A TOTAL TO BE 213 CALIBER INCHES.

UM, THEY ARE, THEY ARE, UH, UH, ADDING 42 CALIBER INCHES TO THAT.

SO TOOK THE, UH, REPLACEMENT RATIO, THE TWO TO ONE RATIO OF THE 426 SUBTRACTED, AN ADDITIONAL 42, UH, CALIBER INCHES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PLANT.

SO THEY OWE, UH, 384 CALIBER INCHES.

UH, TIME'S THE $150 RATE, UH, AND THAT CAME OUT TO BE, UH, $57,600, A, THE HERITAGE TREE REMOVAL FOR THE THREE HERITAGE TREES.

AGAIN IS THE 92 CALIBER INCHES.

UH, YOU TIMES THAT 92 CALIBER INCHES, UH, TIMES THE 300, WHICH CAME OUT TO BE 27, UH, 600, IN ADDITION TO THE CALIBER INCHES WERE THE REPLACEMENT, UH, RATIO FOR THE CALIBER INCHES REMOVED, WHICH IS THAT THREE TO ONE RATIO.

AND THAT'S THE 276, UH, CALIBER INCHES.

UM, SO IT CAME OUT TO BE, UH, THE 276 TIMES THE $150 EQUALS 41,400 FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF $126,600, UH, TO GO TO THE TREE, UH, FUND.

SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT.

IF HE HAS A SHORT PRESENTATION OR OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS, STAFF'S HERE TO ADDRESS ANY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? UM, RICHARD PAUL JAMESON, CIVIL ENGINEERING.

AND, UM, I'M MAINLY HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT CAN BE FURTHER TORY GUYS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELL, NOW ENTER INTO DISCUSSION.

I WILL START ON THE OTHER END WITH A COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.

THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU COULD HAVE ADJUSTED YOUR PLAN A LITTLE BIT TO SAVE SOME OF THE HERITAGE TREES OR ARE THEY JUST TOO MUCH IN THE WAY ON A LAYOUT WHEN YOU HAVE, SORRY, ON THE LAYOUT, WE HAVE THE, WE TRIED SEVERAL TIMES TO TRY AND GET AROUND THE TREES WITH, WITH BUILDINGS ON OUR WISHES TO BUILD.

WE COULD NOT.

UH, WE DID, WE ARE SAVING SEVERAL TREES ALONG THE, UH, EAST PROPERTY LINE WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE.

AND SEVERAL OF THOSE ARE HERITAGE TREES.

ALSO, THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAVE MR. ELANTRA.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST A COMMENT.

YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS WOULD RATHER SAY THE HERITAGE TREES THAN THE MONEY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO ALLOW FOR THE, UH, PAYMENT OF REMOVAL.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS COMMISSIONER HAPPENED FOR THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT YOU WILL ELIMINATE.

WILL YOU GUYS BE PLANTING ANY TREES? THERE SHOULD BE SOME, UH, PLANETS IN THE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS AND SOME ALONE, PROBABLY THERE'S SOME STREETSCAPE OR ON THE STREET YARD.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER MOSS,

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COMMISSIONER.

MAY I LOOKED AT THIS CLOSE AND YEAH, THE LAYOUT IS WHERE THE TREES ARE.

IT BASICALLY WOULD, UH, ELIMINATE USE OF ONE OF THE LOTS TO TRY AND SAVE THOSE TREES.

UM, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO SAVE THEM, BUT, UM, I JUST DIDN'T, I I'M, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

THERE, THERE WAS NO WAY TO SAVE, TO SAVE ALL THOSE HERITAGE TREES, VICE CHAIRMAN.

WAS THERE AN ARBORIST REPORT THAT, THAT WAS DONE THIS SO WE CAN KNOW IF THE TREES WERE DYING OR, OR IF WE'RE JUST REMOVING LIVE TREES.

I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA? UH, YESTERDAY THERE WAS A, SO THE TREES WERE DEAD OR DYING.

THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU.

WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPROVE THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY AND WE USUALLY DON'T REQUIRE OUR RISKS REPORT FOR THE LIVING ONE.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

I GUESS THAT LEAVES IT FOR ME.

UM, I UNDERSTAND WANTING TO, UM, GET EVERY INCH YOU CAN GET OUT OF A, A PROJECT.

I, I HONESTLY DO.

AND I'M GOOD WITH, UH, THE ONE THAT'S IN THE BUILDING FOOT PLAN AND I'M GOOD WITH THE ONE THAT IS IN THE DETENTION POND.

I'M NOT THRILLED.

WEDDING IS 2 25.

THE ONE THAT IS, IS JUST STRAIGHT UP PAVEMENT.

UM, THAT BOTHERS ME ALWAYS TO NO END THAT WE, WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT SOME REROUTING.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A THREE INCH TREE.

IT'S BEEN HERE A HECK OF A LOT LONGER THAN UMA.

AND, UH, AND, UM, FROM WHAT I COULD SEE FROM THE REPORT, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S A VIABLE TREE.

SO THAT, THAT JUST, UH, I'M GOING TO GO ON RECORD SAYING THAT BOTHERS ME.

AND I WENT, UH, MY UNDERSTAND, WE, WE, WE, WE PROVIDE THE MECHANISM TO DO THIS.

UM, THERE ARE JUST TIMES, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO STRAP ON HER PENCIL SOMETIMES.

AND, UH, IF NOBODY HAS ANY, UH, FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

WE'VE TRIED OUR BEST TO WORK AROUND THE THREES AND THE PERSON THAT GOT THIS LAND BEFORE ME, HIS NAME WAS MARK GILBERT, AND HE WAS TRYING TO PROPOSE A FLEX UP HERE AND HE COULDN'T MAKE FLEX WORK.

AND SO THE PROJECT I'M BRINGING HERE IS A RETAIL CENTER, HIGH-END RETAIL CENTER WITH OFFICES.

SO IT SHOWS US 33,000 SQUARE FEET OF SHOPPING CENTER.

BUT THE NET LEASEABLE IS 26 SOMETHING, 26,000 SOMETHING FOR ME TOO.

AND IT'S GOING TO COST AROUND $250 PER SQUARE FOOT TO BRING THAT KIND OF PROJECT THERE.

SO I'M A CONSERVATIONIST MYSELF, AND TRUST ME, WE HAVE BEEN ADDED FOR A YEAR AND A HALF JUST TO ADDRESS YOUR ISSUE.

I'M FEELING IT TOO.

THAT'S WHY IF CORRINE COMES UP WITH ANYTHING THAT I NEED TO DO TO ADD MORE TREES, UM, I'M WILLING TO DO IT.

MY LANDSCAPER DESIGNER, HIS NAME IS MARK, AND I'M TOTALLY OPEN TO IT.

UH, JUST TO, JUST TO SATISFY YOU THAT WE TRY A LOT TO MANEUVER THINGS AND TRY TO MAKE THIS PROJECT VIABLE.

SO IN FOR ME TO BRING A HIGH-END PROJECT THERE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD REALLY LIKE AND ENJOY IT.

UM, I GOT TO HAVE AT LEAST 26,000 SQUARE FEET OF A FOOTPRINT THAT I CAN LEASE TO MAKE IT A VIABLE PROJECT, OR IT KIND OF, EVEN IF I LOSE HUGE PARKING LOTS, IT REDUCES MY FOOTAGE BY THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

AND THAT'S THOSE TWO, 3000 SQUARE FEET IN THE END IS WHERE I KIND OF WHERE MY PROFIT IS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THAT IS A, UH, AS I SAID, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM TO CONSIDER AN EMOTION, NOT A FAN OF GETTING RID OF TREES, BUT I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

OR IF I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER, MAY YOU'LL HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MOSS, ALL IN FAVOR.

OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO

[10. Discuss and consider action regarding Ordinance Case 22-OR-001 to amend the Composite Zoning Ordinance to adopt regulations for Mobile Food Establishments, update accessory structure requirements, updating definitions, and to provide for related matters; Williamson & Travis Counties, Texas. Staff Presentation Discussion Consider Action]

TO AMEND THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ADOPT REGULATIONS FOR MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENT, UPDATE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS, UPDATING DEFINITIONS, AND TO PROVIDE FOR RELATED MATTERS.

WILLIAMSON TRAVIS COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING.

UM,

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UM, WE DID REVIEW THESE CHANGES AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING AND THE COMMISSION HAD TWO REQUESTS FOR UPDATES.

UM, WE DID ADD ON PAGE SIX HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE TEMPORARY USE FOR MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS TO MATCH THE LOCAL OFFICE, UM, PER OUR DISCUSSION.

AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM WAS PROVIDING AN INCREASED SETBACK WHEN THE SIZE OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IS INCREASED OVER THAT ORIGINAL 10%.

UM, WE DID ADD A PROVISION FOR THAT TO THE CODE.

UM, I DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS WHEN WE THOUGHT THROUGH IT.

UM, WE CHANGED IT TO WHERE THE SETBACK WAS INCREASED TO 15 FEET FROM THE, UM, OUR ISSUE IS THIS IS A SMALLER BUILDING THAN THE HOME ITSELF, AND WE'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET.

IT MAKES IT HARDER TO BUILD AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE KIND OF CENTERING IT BY BEHIND A HOUSE.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE LIKE A 50 FOOT WIDE LOT, IT KIND OF BECOMES A CONFLICT WITH YOUR BACK PORCH.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE FIVE FEET REALLY HELPED, UM, WITH THE ADJACENT USES.

SO THAT WAS OUR ONLY CONCERN WE ADDED IT, BUT IT FELL HAD ANOTHER IDEA OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT WAS JUST, IT WAS A HARD ONE TO CHANGE.

AND THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION.

I WILL START WITH VICE CHAIRMAN.

SO ROBIN, WHEN YOU SAID, UM, THAT WE CHANGED THE HOURS, CAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I BROUGHT UP BEFORE THAT YOU PUT IT AS LOCAL OFFICE OR THE CAUSE IN THE, IN THE PACKET ON PAGE SIX IN THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S SUPPOSED TO CHANGE? BECAUSE THAT'S THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL HOURS OF OPERATION.

THAT'S NOT LOCAL OFFICE, LOCAL COMMERCIAL, BUT IT, DID WE WANT IT TO BE LOCAL OFFICE? YEAH, I MEAN, I JUST THINK 5:00 AM IS KIND OF EARLY, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE NEAR RESIDENTIAL.

AND THAT'S WHY I WAS THINKING MORE OF THE LOCAL OFFICE AND LOCAL COMMERCIAL.

AND I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHEN I BROUGHT IT UP LAST TIME, THAT'S REALLY MORE WHAT I WAS SAYING.

AND I CAN, I CAN MAKE THAT CORRECTION.

I THINK I JUST MISUNDERSTOOD.

TOTALLY FINE.

THERE WAS A LOT GOING, THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING AT THE TIME.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAD.

COMMISSIONER, MAY YOU COVERED MY ISSUE? YOU MENTIONED YOUR LOSS.

NO COMMENT.

UM, TONY DOES.

SORRY.

CAN I SEE YOUR HANDS AND I'M SORRY, I MIGHT WITNESS BLANK.

UH, LOCAL OFFICE CHANGES TO WHAT TIME I DON'T HAVE MY PAPER ORDERS, RIGHT? IT'S UM, SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY IS 7:00 AM TO 10:00 PM AND FRIDAY AND SATURDAY IS 7:00 AM TO 11:00 PM.

IT'S LIKE THAT CAN MAKE SURE I'LL ANSWER IT.

I THINK THE REASON 5:00 AM WAS DISCUSSED, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY LIKE WHO'S BARBECUING WITH ONE OF THESE MOBILE FOOD TRUCKS AND HAS TO GO OUT THERE.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY IN OPERATION, BUT THEY'RE OUT THERE SMOKING FOR ME GETTING IT GOING.

YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M IN THE, THE NEXT, IN THE SENTENCE.

IT SAYS THE HOURS OF OPERATION TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

I THINK THAT'S OUR KEYWORDS.

THAT MEANS YOU'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

SO I THINK IT WOULDN'T PROHIBIT SOMEONE FROM PREP.

OKAY.

UM, AS FAR AS THE SETBACK, UM, TELL ME AGAIN, OKAY.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF IT GOES BEYOND A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE THAT THE SETBACK WILL INCREASE TO 15%, SO 15 FEET.

YES.

SO IF IT'S LIKE TODAY, YOU COULD HAVE A 10% OF YOUR PRIMARY STRUCTURES, YOUR ACCESSORY BUILDING, RIGHT.

WE'RE INCREASING IT TO 20%.

SO WE'RE SAYING MOVE IT FIVE FEET OVER.

BUT WHEN WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, UM, WE LOOKED AT THE HOUSE IS BIGGER AND IT'S TALLER AND IT'S FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

SO I JUST WASN'T SURE HOW MUCH IT ACTUALLY WOULD HELP TO MOVE AT THAT FIVE FEET.

OKAY.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AND I THINK ON LARGER LOTS, IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE LABS IN THE CITY ARE 50 TO 60 FEET WIDE, WHICH KIND OF MAKES IT COMPLICATED.

ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO WHEN I WAS BRINGING THAT UP WAS A LOT OF, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY WANT TO PUT UP, UH, A BUILDING OF THAT NATURE, WE'LL PUT IT IN THE BACK CORNER OF THEIR YARD, UP AGAINST THE FENCE, WHICH MAKES IT AN EYESORE FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF AT A, AS FAR AWAY FROM THEIR HOUSES, THEY CAN GET IT, BUT THEN THE NEIGHBORS HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

AND SO I WAS JUST SAYING, IF YOU'RE GOING TO LET THOSE STRUCTURES BE BIGGER, MAYBE CHANGE THE SETBACK, MAYBE, MAYBE 15 FEET TOO MUCH.

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I'M JUST SAYING, I HAVE SEEN THIS HAPPEN IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THERE A LOT OF THE STRUCTURES AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THEY TEND TO WANT TO PUT THEM IS IN THE BACK CORNER OF THEIR PROPERTY.

SO WELL, AND TODAY IT'S, UM, IT'S FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, SO THE 15 WOULD BE 10 FEET AWAY.

SO THERE'S THAT, I MEAN, I'M GOOD WITH 15 IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS, BUT THANK YOU.

MA'AM COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.

I'M GOOD.

AND I WOULD, UH, I WOULD SAY, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN TO STAND FOR GOING BACK AND PUTTING THE PENCIL TO PAPER AND BRINGING BACK THESE REVISIONS.

THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVED BY VICE CHAIR WITH THE CHANGE TO CHANGE THE HOURS TO MIMIC LOCAL OFFICE.

INSTEAD OF LOCAL COMMITTEE, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVED BY VICE CHAIR, MAN, WITH THE AGENDA THAT THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS ARE CHANGED TO MIMIC LOCAL OFFICE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS,

[11. Discuss and consider action on recommendations from the Planning & Zoning Commission for the FY 2022/2023 City Budget and CIP Plan. Discussion Consider Action]

THIS IS DIFFERENT WHERE YOU GOT FOR US.

THIS IS, UH, BASED ON OUR LAST MEETING, EVERYBODY'S SUBMITTED PAPERS TO ME WITH, UH, THEIR PROPOSED RANKING.

UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, WE, WE TOOK IT TO MEAN IF YOU HAD A 10, THAT WAS THE ONE YOU WANTED THE MOST.

SO WE TOTAL IT ALL TOGETHER.

AND THE TOP ITEM CAME OUT TO STAFFING OF THE CITY BRANDING IDENTITY OF THE CITY AND THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN.

THAT'D BE THE TOP THREE, WE'LL FORWARD THE WHOLE LIST TO THE CITY MANAGER.

BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WHEN YOU GUYS WERE PREPARING YOUR RANKING, THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT WAS 10 WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT DID I SAY IT BACKWARDS? IT'S ONE.

SO THEN DOES THAT MEAN ON THE LIST? THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE IS THE TOP IT'S RIGHT? YEAH.

YOU'RE JUST THE WAITING.

I'M TIRED.

I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY.

SO, OKAY.

SO THESE TOP ONES ARE CORRECT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

HE DID THE NUMBERS.

OKAY.

I HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY.

THAT WE'RE GOOD THEN.

UM, DO WE NEED TO, TO TAKE ACTION? THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

WE WILL CONSIDER ACTION ON SUBMITTING THIS TO A COUNCIL BEFORE, BEFORE WE DO THAT.

UM, MRS. CHERA, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT, I THINK IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT THAT WE, AS A COMMISSION, THINK THAT STAFFING THE CITY IS BY FAR THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I NEEDED TO DO.

I MEAN, THAT SHOULD DEFINITELY SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY FEEL THAT THAT'S KIND OF THERE BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST, IT'S A 23 POINT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND THE NEXT FIVE.

THERE'S A FIVE POINT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE I READ.

SO, YOU KNOW, PLEASE LET A CITY MANAGER UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF OUR FEELING, SO THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? I JUST WANT TO ECHO THAT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CITY GROWING AS FAST AS IT IS, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT OUR CITY STAFF CAN KEEP UP WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING.

SO I AM HAPPY AS WELL.

IT'S ALL YOU MENTIONED.

I THINK THAT ALSO BRINGS OUT THE POINT THOUGH, THAT WE NEED TO BUILD BUILDINGS, TO PUT THE STAFF IN.

UM, WE'VE GOT CLOSETS THAT ARE FULL OF EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT WE, WE TO INCREASE THE STAFFING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE BUILDINGS AS WELL, WHICH WASN'T NECESSARILY LISTED ON THERE, BUT, UH, OH, THAT IS GOING TO STAFF, THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN WITH ALAN, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER.

MAY I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY WITH THAT.

THE TIME IS SEVEN 30 AND WE STAND ADJOURNED.