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WELCOME TO THE MAY 12TH, 2022 CITY OF LEANDER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
I'LL START WITH THE ROLL CALL, LET
[2. Roll Call.]
IT BE KNOWN THAT, UH, LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONER COSGROVE, OUR CHAIR, WHICH IS WHY I'M HAPPILY SITTING IN THE CHAIR TONIGHT.[3. Director’s report to the Planning & Zoning Commission on actions taken by the City Council at the May 5, 2022 meeting.]
ON THE AGENDA IS THE DIRECTORS REPORT.I'M REPORTING ON ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE MAY 5TH MEETING, UM, THEY REVIEWED SEVERAL REQUESTS THAT WERE FORWARDED TO THEM FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, THE FIRST REQUEST WAS THE LARGE AREA REZONING FOR THE OLD TOWN AREA.
THEY DID APPROVE THAT REQUEST AT THE SECOND READING.
THEY ALSO APPROVED THE AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE TO CREATE, UM, REGULATIONS FOR FOOD TRUCKS AND UPDATE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS AND ON THEIR PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, THEY REVIEWED THE ZONING CASE, UM, AT 6 0 7 CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY AND THEY APPROVED IT.
AND THE SPECIAL USE CASE FOR THE RECREATIONAL VEHICLE IN OLD TOWN.
UM, THEY DID GET ALL OF THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED BY THE APPLICANTS.
SO THEY APPROVED THAT CASE AND THEY ALSO APPROVED THE TREE REMOVAL CASE AND, UM, THEY ARE CREATING AN OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, AND THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING REPRESENTATIVES FROM OLD TOWN TO PARTICIPATE.
UM, WE'RE ALL VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT, SO IT'S EXCITING.
UM, AND THAT'S IT FOR MY REPORT.
[4. Review of meeting protocol.]
THE MEETING PROTOCOL, WHICH IS UP ON THE BOARD.I DON'T REMEMBER FIVE CITIZEN COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
IF THERE'S ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA NOW IS YOUR CHANCE.
I HAVE NO CARDS, BUT IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM? NOT ON THE AGENDA, SEEING NONE.
[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM, MOVE TO APPROVE.
I GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.
MAY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ON
[9. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Subdivision Case 22-CP-002 to adopt the Crystal Mesa 2 Concept Plan on three parcels of land approximately 10.33 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Travis Central Appraisal District Parcels 354047, 354048, 354050; generally located at the south west of CR 290 and High Lonesome, Leander, Travis County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Subdivision Case 22-CP-002 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]
TO AGENDA.ITEM NUMBER NINE, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING SUBDIVISION CASE 22 DASH CP DASH 0 0 2.
TO ADOPT THE CRYSTAL MESA TWO CONCEPT PLAN ON THREE PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 10.3, THREE ACRES IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY TRAVIS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCELS 35, 4 0 4 7 35 4 4 8 35 4 0 5 0 GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST OF CR TWO 90 AND HIGH LONESOME LEANDER, TRAVIS COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSION JUSTIN HUNT WITH PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS PURSUANT TO SECTION 2 1 2 0.005 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE APPROVAL BY MUNICIPALITIES REQUIRED.
SINCE THE CONCEPT PLAN SATISFIES THE APPLICABLE REGULATIONS WITHOUT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES, THE ZONING AND ANNEXATION OF THIS, UM, SITE WAS APPROVED ON DECEMBER 15TH, 2021.
THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES NINE SINGLE FAMILY, LOTS AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? I'M SEAN FRIEND WITH A CUNNINGHAM ALLEN CIVIL ENGINEER, UH, REPRESENTING THE OWNER.
AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, BUT OF COURSE I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAS ANY.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEEING NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER MAY.
I MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND AND HAVE A COMMISSION HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER.
LANTRIP SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES, UNANIMOUSLY AGENDA ITEM,
[10. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action on a Subdivision Variance request from Article III, Section 42 (b) (2) (iii) of the Subdivision Ordinance that requires a developer to extend streets and trails to the boundary lines of the tract and Article III, Section 42 (b) (2) (vi) of the Subdivision Ordinance that requires street and trail right-of-way shall be dedicated and constructed with the Plat associated with114.68 acres ± in size; more particularly described as Devine Lake Ph. 3 Subdivision; generally located to the west of N. Bagdad Rd. and south of San Gabriel Pkwy., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 22-VA-002 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]
NUMBER 10, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION ON SUBDIVISION VARIANCE REQUESTS FROM ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 42 B TWO THREE OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES THE DEVELOPER TO EXTEND STREETS AND TRAILS TO THE BOUNDARY LINES OF THE TRACT.AND ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 42 B2, SIX OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES STREET AND TRAIL RIGHT OF WAY,
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SHALL BE DEDICATED AND CONSTRUCTED WITH THE PLAT ASSOCIATED WITH 114.6, EIGHT ACRES IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AS DIVINE LAKE PHASE THREE SUBDIVISION GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE WEST OF NORTH BAGHDAD ROAD AND SOUTH OF SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY, LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS, HOPE YOU ALL ARE DOING WELL.
UH, SO THIS ITEM WAS POSTPONED BY THE APPLICANTS.
UH, THEY ARE GOING TO MEET WITH THE, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, I BELIEVE NEXT WEEK SOMETIME, UM, AND GET A GAME PLAN GOING.
UM, DURING CONSTRUCTION OF DIVINE LAKE PHASE THREE, LEANDER ISD CONTACTED THE DEVELOPER AND CITY WITH CONCERNS ABOUT THE FUTURE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE A NEW SCHOOL SITE TAKING ACCESS OFF OF SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY.
THE CURRENT DESIGN WOULD NOT SUPPORT THE NEEDED DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND WOULD NEED TO BE REMOVED.
AND LATER RECONSTRUCTED, THE APPLICANT IS A VARIANCE TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REGARDING THE REQUIREMENT THAT EXISTING STREETS ARE EXTENDED TO THE BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.
REMOVAL OF THIS REQUIREMENT WOULD CREATE A SITUATION WHERE THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE REMAINING EXTENSION OF SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY, RATHER THAN THE BURDEN, UH, FOLLOWING ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING WILL NEED TO TAKE PLACE BECAUSE WE ADVERTISE FOR IT.
BUT, UM, WE'RE GONNA POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL LATER P AND D.
UH, IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION TONIGHT? RIGHT.
SO NOW I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UM, MS. ELIZABETH SHIRES, AND IF I'M MISPRONOUNCE YOUR NAME, MY APOLOGIES, PLEASE SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I LIVE AT 4 2, 2 1 PORTER FARM ROAD.
I'M REPRESENTING LACKEY HOLDINGS.
UM, MY FAMILY HAS OWNED THE LAND THAT IS ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY FOR 150 YEARS.
UM, AND WE JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS WE WANTED TO BRING TO YOU LACKING HO LACKEY HOLDINGS, WHICH OWNS SOME OF THE LAND ADJACENT TO THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED VARIANCE HAS DONE SO FOR 150 YEARS, AND IS REQUESTING FORMAL CLARIFICATION REGARDING THE PROCESS BY WHICH THE DEFERRED PORTION OF SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY WILL ACTUALLY BE BUILT.
SHOULD THE REQUEST TO BE GRANTED LACKING HOLDINGS IS DEPENDENT UPON THE CITY REQUIRING THE CONSTRUCTION OF SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY BY THE INDIVIDUAL PARTIES DEVELOPING THE LAND PARCELS BETWEEN BAGHDAD ROAD.
AND THE POINT WE'RE SAYING GABRIEL PARKWAY IS TO CROSS OUR PROPERTY.
AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE PORTION OF SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY IN QUESTION IS TO WHEN COMPLETED WITH DEBT INTO OUR, INTO OUR FARM.
THE STAFF REPORT STATES THAT THE FUTURE CONSTRUCTION OF SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE BY THE CITY.
IF THIS VARIANCE IS GRANTED WITH THE DIVINE LAKES, PREP DEVELOPED PROPERTY DEVELOPER BE REQUIRED TO ESCROW, THE PROJECTED DEFERRED COSTS.
IF OF NOT BUILDING THE PUSH THE PORTION CURRENTLY, WHAT HAPPENS IF THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD THE ROAD AT THE TIME THAT IT IN WHICH IT IS ULTIMATELY NEEDED? WHAT HAPPENS IF THE CITY, WHAT? YUP.
ALTHOUGH WE HAVE NO PLANS TO CURRENTLY DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY.
OUR CONCERN WOULD BE THAT, THAT IF THE CITY HAS NOT BUILT THE ROAD, WHEN WE ARE READY TO DEVELOP, OUR PROPERTY COULD END UP WITHOUT ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO BE CLEAR.
LEANDER ISD DID NOT INFORM US OF THIS REQUEST BEFORE WE SOLD THEM OUR PORTION OF OUR FARM, SO THAT WE COULD DISCUSS THE CONSEQUENCES OF SUCH A VARIANCE BEFORE THE SALE HAD CLOSED.
WHILE WE STRIVE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS WITH LEANDER, ISD AND OTHERS, WITHOUT CLARIFICATION AND ASSURANCES, THAT THIS PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY WILL NOT BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY THE VARIANCE REQUEST.
WE CURRENTLY OPPOSE THE REQUEST.
MA'AM AND MISS LISA LACKEY BERKMAN OKAY.
AND I WILL ASSUME THAT YOU'RE OPPOSED AS WELL.
I'LL JUST MAKE SURE IT'S IN THE RECORD FOR YOU.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM HEARING? NONE.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION, STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
DID I UNDERSTAND YOU TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DELAY THIS UNTIL LATER UNTIL THEY TALK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE DEVELOPER OF DIVINE LAKE PHASE THREE, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK THROUGH OPTIONS AND WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN THERE.
THEY'RE REQUESTING IT TO BE POSTPONED TO THE MAY 26TH MEETING.
IS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO NOT BUILD JUST WHAT A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET OF A ROW? I THINK THAT THE ISSUE IS IT WAS DESIGNED ONE WAY, LIKE, I THINK IT'S TOO LOW AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SAYS IT NEEDS TO BE RAISED.
THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY TO RAISE IT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? CAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED THE DEVELOPER, SO THEY'VE ALREADY DESIGNED IT AND STARTED BUILDING IT AND THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO REDESIGN AND REBUILD.
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I GUESS MY, UH, MY COMMENTS WOULD HAVE TO DO WITH THE TIMING OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, NOTIFYING THEM.THEY'RE ALREADY, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY ALREADY PAID TO DESIGN IT ONE WAY AND, UM, SHOULDN'T HAVE TO INCUR THOSE COSTS AGAIN BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T NOTIFIED UNTIL THEY WERE ALREADY UNDERWAY.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS KINDA, MY CONCERN WAS THE TIMING OF IT.
AND I UNDERSTAND IT WOULD FALL BACK ON THE CITY, WHICH I WOULD ASSUME THAT, UM, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD PARTICIPATE IN SOME WAY WITH THAT, SINCE IT, IT IS, I GUESS I FELT THAT THE DEVELOPERS SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED SOONER.
I HATE TO SEE THEM OUT THE MONEY.
I'M SURE THERE'S A COMPROMISE IN THERE SOMEWHERE AND WE'LL JUST WAIT AND SEE WHAT'S PRESENTED AT THE NEXT MEETING.
I GUESS MY TWO QUESTIONS ON THIS, UH, IT'S CONCERNING THAT A DEVELOPER WOULD BE POSSIBLY HIT WITH THESE COSTS OF THE REDESIGN AND WHATNOT THIS LATE IN THE GAME.
UM, BUT IF THEY BUILT IT AND L ISD COMES IN AND BUILD ZEROS AND IT HAS TO CHANGE EVERYTHING, OBVIOUSLY THEY WOULD HAVE TO TEAR UP THE ROAD TO FIX THE DRAINAGE.
AND I KNOW THE ROAD WOULD D I GUESS, DISAPPEAR WHILE THEY'RE DIGGING IT ALL UP AND DOING THEIR IMPROVEMENTS, BUT WHO WOULD PAY FOR THAT DIFF TO FIX IT IN THE LONG HAUL? IS THAT, DOES THAT FALL TO THE CITY? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT NEXT WEEK.
SO I THINK THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS SAYING IT WAS DESIGNED INCORRECTLY.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE PROBLEM IS AND HOW TO FIX IT.
SO IT COULD POSSIBLY BE SOMETHING THE DEVELOPER DID WITH IT'S POSSIBLE.
WE JUST NEED TO TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE DELAYED, BUT WE STILL NEED TO TAKE ACTION TO DELAY, CORRECT.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DELAY ONE SECOND.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ON TO AGENDA
[11. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-036 to amend the current Knight PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning districts GC-3-A (General Commercial) and MF-2-A (Multi-Family) on one parcel of land approximately 9.938 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R583665; and generally located to the south of the intersection of US 183 and County Glen Drive, to the west of the railroad tracks, and north of the southern City Limits, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 21-Z-036 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]
ITEM, NUMBER 11, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 21 DASH Z DASH 0 3 6 TO AMEND THE CURRENT NIGHT PUD WITH THE BASIS OWNING DISTRICTSOKAY, SO TONIGHT IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO AMEND THE EXISTING PUD, UH, THE NIGHT'S BUD ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, UH, FOR COMMERCIAL INDOOR OUTDOOR TENANTS FACILITY AND MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL USES, UM, SOME ITEMS TO WARRANT, A SPECIAL CONSIDERATION.
THE ORIGINAL NIGHT POD WAS ADOPTED IN 2018.
THE PUD ALLOWS FOR A MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL USES.
THEY ARE DEVELOPED ONE PIECE OF IT DOWN HERE.
I BELIEVE THAT'S RUSH AUTOMOTIVE.
UH, THIS AMENDMENT TO THE PUD INCLUDES THE ADDITION OF VERTICAL MIXED USE THAT WILL ALLOW FOR APPROXIMATELY 20 RESIDENTIAL USES OR RESIDENTIAL PRO, UH, USES AS WELL AS A TENNIS FACILITY THAT IS COVERED WITH A MEMBRANE FABRIC ROOF, UH, THAT DOES NOT MEET THE CITY'S TYPICAL BUILDING STANDARDS.
SO TO THE NORTH, UH, IS SFU TO BE, SEE IF WE GET A ZONING MAP.
THIS LITTLE TRACK AT THE TOP IS SFU TUBI IT'S UNDEVELOPED RIGHT NOW TO THE EAST IS THE, UH, RAILROAD TRACKS.
UM, AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS HORIZON PARK, UH, SECTION FOUR, IT'S A SFC TO BE, UH, TO THE SOUTH IS THE REMAINDER OF THE PUD AS MENTIONED.
THAT'S A RUSH AUTOMOTIVE, UH, IT'S AN, A COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION AND TO THE WEST RIGHT ACROSS OF 180 3, UH, IS ALSO, UH, SOME COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
SO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UH, AT 24 0 3 HIGHWAY 180 3, AND INCLUDES THE UNDEVELOPED REMNANT OF THE NIGHT COMMERCIAL PUD JUST TO THE NORTH OF RUSH AUTOMOTIVE.
AS I STATED EARLIER TO THE EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS FOLLOWED BY THE HORIZON PARK, SECTION FOUR, SUBDIVISION TO THE WEST ACROSS 180 3 IS SEVERAL BUSINESSES, INCLUDING THE PAPA JOHN'S, THERE'S AN H AND R OR BODY SHOP AND A STICKER SHOP AUDIT, UH, THE, UH, LAYOUT OF THE LAND.
IT HAS SIGNIFICANT TREE COVER, UH, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TRACK RUNNING ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS, UH, AND THAT WILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH THE TREES,
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UH, PRESERVATION AND, UH, MITIGATION ORDINANCE.AND THAT WILL BE DEALT WITH IN THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, A MAJOR CORRIDOR.
IT HAS ACCESS ONTO 180 3, WHICH IS ALSO WHERE THE EXISTING UTILITIES FOR BOTH WATER AND SEWER ARE.
UM, THE SUBDIVISION IS CURRENTLY PLANTED AS NIGHT'S COMMERCIAL SUBDIVISION BLOCK.
A LOT ONE, UH, THE CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY SITS UNDEVELOPED.
THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT MEETING THAT WAS HELD ON AUGUST 9TH OF LAST YEAR.
THE FOLLOWING, UH, SLIGHT MODIFICATION TO THE LAYOUT WAS, UM, THERE WAS A SLIGHT MODIFICATION TO THE LAYOUT ONCE STAFF RECEIVED THE SUBMITTAL, UH, BUT NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.
IT STILL LINES UP WITH THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH STAFF DURING OUR MEETING, UM, NOTIFICATIONS, UH, IT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE PAPER ON APRIL 21ST IN THE HILL COUNTRY NEWS.
UH, MAILING NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT FELL WITHIN 200 FEET ON THE, UH, APRIL 27TH, AS WELL AS, UM, PUBLIC HEARING SIGNAGE WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.
TONIGHT IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, JUNE 2ND WILL BE THE, UH, SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AT CITY COUNCIL.
AND JUNE 16TH WILL BE THE SECOND AND FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE.
UH, AS STATED EARLIER, UH, NOTICES WERE MAILED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT FELL WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UM, THE AGENT REACHED OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY ZONE TO SINGLE FAMILY OR ANY PROPERTIES USED AS SINGLE FAMILY, UH, WITHIN 500 FEET, UH, PER ARTICLE ARTICLES IN THE COMPOSITE LEARNING ORDINANCE.
UH, THE APPLICANT SUPPLIED THEIR RESPONSES BACK AS ATTACHMENT NUMBER NINE IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, IN CONCLUSION, THE STONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF MULTI-USE CORRIDOR PRIORITY CORRIDOR, AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE AND HARMONIOUS WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES ALONG 180 3 TODAY THEIR PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE NIGHT'S PUD INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. THEY'RE GOING TO ADD THE DOME FABRIC MATERIAL TO BE UTILIZED FOR THE COVERED TENANTS FACILITY.
THEY'RE GOING TO CLARIFY THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ALLOWED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS PART OF A MIXED USE RETAIL VERTICAL, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE NORTH PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
THEY'RE GOING TO UPDATE THE MATERIALS PALETTE TO INCLUDE THE DOME MATERIAL.
THEY'RE GOING TO ADD SOME OUTDOOR LIGHTING FOR TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL OUTDOOR COURTS.
UM, THEY'RE ARE GOING TO UPDATE THE CONCEPTUAL SITE LAYOUT PLAN FOR THE CURRENT PROPOSED, UH, DEVELOPMENT WITH THAT.
UH, THAT'S THE END OF THE STAFF PRESENTATION WILL BE HERE AFTER THE ITEM FOR ANY, UH, FURTHER QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? GOOD EVENING.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, FOR HAVING US.
UM, THIS HAS KIND OF BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS IT A FIRST OF ITS KIND IN LEANDER, BUT SO FIRST IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY, AND THERE'S A, THERE'S NOT ANYTHING LIKE IT AROUND IN THE CURRENT AREA.
I THINK WE WENT OVER ENOUGH OF WHERE THE, UM, UH, AREA IS.
SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT.
THIS LAND WAS PURCHASED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021, THERE WAS AN EXISTING PUT ON THE PROPERTY.
AS YOU KNOW, ALL WE'RE DOING IS ASKING FOR A PUD AMENDMENT.
THE PROJECT WILL PROVIDE FOR A COMPETITIVE TENNIS FACILITY, BOTH INDOOR AND OUTDOOR PICKLEBALL COURTS, BADMINTON COURTS, CORNHOLE, CLUBHOUSE, RESTROOMS, RESTAURANTS, THE WHOLE BET MIXED USE THREE-STORY RETAIL RESTAURANTS AND LIVING AREA.
SEMI-PERMANENT AIR SUPPORT IS STRUCTURE FOR COURTS.
THE DEVELOPMENT COST OF THIS PROJECT IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 20 AND 22 MILLION.
THE PROJECT WILL GENERATE 50 OR 75 NEW JOBS.
A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY AND STAND OUT IMMEDIATELY IS THE, WHAT IS THE DOME AIR SUPPORTED STRUCTURE? UM, IF YOU SEE THE BOTTOM, THIS, THIS PICTURE HERE, THAT'S AN INDOOR, UH, LOOK AT THE INDOOR, THE INSIDE OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THE FACILITY IS, OH, SORRY, THIS, THIS IS THE OUTDOOR DOME.
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AUTOMOTIVE.IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH DOWNTOWN AUSTIN IN FRONT OF THE UT STADIUM, THAT'S THE CLOSEST AIR SUPPORTED STRUCTURE THAT'S OUT THERE.
UM, NOW LET ME STRESS WHAT THAT IS.
THE AIR SUPPORT STRUCTURE THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE UT STADIUM IS 40 FEET, 45 FEET.
THIS PROJECT WILL COME IN SOMEWHERE AROUND 35, 36 FEET.
UM, THE CURRENT RUSH AUTOMOTIVE BUILDING IS 27 FEET.
SO WE'RE ONLY EIGHT TO 10 FEET HIGHER THAN THE, THAN THE CURRENT FACILITY.
IT WILL PROVIDE FOR OUTDOOR LIGHT IT'S SECURED TENNIS COURTS, UM, RESTROOM, SIDEWALKS, CONNECTING THE CORE SEATING FOR SPECTATORS CHECK IN DESK, INDOOR TENNIS COURTS, BAD MANY COURTS, ALTERNATE SPACE FOR BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL, AND PICKLEBALL.
THE WHY I'M CONCENTRATING SO MUCH ON THE DOME IS CAUSE THIS IS A ONE THAT DOESN'T FIT QUITE WITH THE NORM FROM THE FABRIC.
AND THE OTHER BIG ISSUE IS, UM, THE FIRE ORDINANCE.
UH, THIS IS TOO LARGE, UM, TO NOT MEET THE ORDINANCE FOR IT TO BE SPRINKLED, HOWEVER YOU CAN'T SPRINKLE INSIDE OF THE DOME.
THERE'S NO WAY TO, TO, UH, STRUCTURE THAT.
SO WE STARTED WORKING WITH THE FIRE MARSHALL, UH, MR. DAVIS, BACK IN OCTOBER, AND WENT THROUGH SEVERAL RENDITIONS, ALSO, UH, GOT NOTIFICATION AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM ICC FROM THE INTERNATIONAL COUNCIL REVIEW TO, UM, UH, SUPPORT THAT WITHOUT THE USE OF SPRINKLERS.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT BY DESIGNATING AS AN A FOR DESIGNATION AND THE BUILDING CODE THAT THAT DESIGNATION ALLOWS FOR AN INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY OF THIS TYPE THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SPRINKLED.
IT DOES HAVE SEVERAL LIMITATIONS, SORRY.
IT DOES HAVE SEVERAL LIMITATIONS ON, UM, UH, NUMBER OF APPLICANT AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CAN BE IN THERE.
NUMBER SPECTATORS, THE DOORWAYS EGRESS.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT STILL HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT THROUGH SITE DESIGN.
BUT WITH THAT, AS THE INTENT, THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE ENTERTAINMENT CENTER.
THIS IS A PICKLE BALL COURTS, TWO-STORY RESTAURANT BAR ROOFTOP SEATING COVERED COURTS, THERE'S CORN, CORN, CORN HOLE, AVAILABLE IN OUTDOOR AREAS.
I'LL FIGURE THIS CLICKER OUT FROM DONE.
THIS IS THE PHASE TWO PORTION OF THE PROJECT.
WE'VE HAD A BROKEN INTO TWO PHASES.
PHASE TWO WOULD BE THE MIXED USE.
WE HAVE A GROUND FLOOR THAT WOULD BE OFFICE RETAIL, SPORTS MEDICINE.
THIS IS A SPORTS COMPLEX WITH COMPETITIVE TENNIS.
WE COULD SEE, UM, A DOCTOR, YOU KNOW, SPORTS MEDICINE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THERE AS WELL AS GENERAL RETAIL.
THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL.
NOW I KNOW HOW COMMISSIONERS, AND I KNOW HOW COUNCILS FEEL WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT MULTI-FAMILY ZONING.
UM, WE HAVE PUT IT IN THE PUB.
IT LIMITS IT TO A MAX OF 20 UNITS.
SO BY DOING THAT, THAT SHOULD TAKE THE FEAR AWAY THAT IF THE PROJECT IS SOLD TO SOMEBODY ELSE OR SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN, THEY CAN'T BUILD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
UM, WITH 50% OF THOSE HAVING GARAGE UNITS, THIS IS THE, UM, IN THE FRONT OF THE PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
THIS AREA IS HARD STRUCTURE NEXT TO THE DOME.
THIS IS PART OF OUR COMPROMISE WITH THE FIRE CHIEF TO MOVE THE, UM, LOCKER ROOMS, THE PRO SHOP, THE CHECK-IN AREA, THE RESTROOMS, ALL THAT OUTSIDE OF THE DOME, THIS AREA WILL BE SPRINKLED.
IT IS LARGE ENOUGH AND MEETS WITH THE FIRE CODE.
NOW, LIKE I SAID, WE SPENT EXTENSIVE TIME, EIGHT MONTHS WITH THE FIRE CHIEF TO WORK THROUGH THIS.
THE BOTTOM SECTION IS, UH, AN OUTDOOR WET AREA, UM, POOL SPA, HOT TUB, THOSE KINDS OF AREAS OUT THERE WHERE THE SECOND FLOOR BAR, UM, RESTAURANT OBSERVATION AREA FITNESS CENTER ON THE SECOND FLOOR AS WELL.
THIS IS A CURRENT TENNIS DOME.
THAT'S AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA.
THIS IS A, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE WATERMARKS ACROSS IT.
THIS IS WHAT THEIR DOME CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE.
AND YOU CAN GET A GOOD IDEA AS FAR AS THE REPRESENTATION.
AND AGAIN, I THINK I WANT TO STRESS.
ONE OF THE BIG THINGS IS THE HEIGHT OF THE DOME.
UM, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE CONSIDERABLY HIGHER THAN YOU DO FOR TENNIS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT A MAX HEIGHT SOMEWHERE IN THAT 34 TO 37 FOOT RANGE, WHICH IS AGAIN, ONLY ABOUT 10 FEET TALLER THAN THE RUSH MODE, RUSH AUTOMOTIVE, UH, BUILDING.
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SITE PLAN.SO BUILDING D LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS TO DO WITH THAT MOVING.
THIS IS THE OUTSIDE AREA CHECKED IN OUTDOOR TENNIS COURTS.
THIS IS THE MIXED USE FACILITY PHASE ONE WILL ENCOMPASS THIS PORTION.
PHASE TWO WILL BE THE MIXED USE.
THIS IS THE CURRENT RUSH AUTOMOTIVE.
YOU'LL ALSO NOTE THERE'S TWO NEW, UM, TEXTED OUT APPROVED TURN, TURN IN LANES WITH THE AREA THAT WILL BE THERE.
SO WHAT ARE THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR FOR THE POD AND THE, THE MAIN CHANGES ARE THE REQUEST TO USE OF AN AIR SUPPORTIVE STRUCTURE FOR THE TENANTS VENUE OR REQUESTING THE VERTICAL MIXED USE WITH UP TO 20 LIVING UNITS, DETACHED GARAGES FOR UP TO 50% OF THE UNITS, WE WORKED WITH THE FIRE MARSHALL, AS I SAID TO ALLOW FOR THE
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REQUIRES 85% MASONARY, WHICH WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PUD.
AND THERE'S TWO PHASES WITH THE DOME TENNIS RESTAURANT IN THE FIRST PHASE MIXED USE AND LIVING IN THE SECOND PHASE, THE SPORTS CENTER MIXED USE RETAIL AND MINOR LIVING UNITS.
THE SPORTS CENTERS WILL INCLUDE TENNIS, BADMINTON, PICKLEBALL, VOLLEYBALL, BASKETBALL, OUTDOOR POOL, AND RECREATION AREA.
UM, THERE'S ALSO ALTERNATE AREAS FOR, UH, VOLLEYBALL, BASKETBALL, THOSE TYPE OF ITEMS, RESTAURANT ROOFTOP BAR, PICKLEBALL COURTS, BOTH COVERED AND UNCOVERED MIXED USE POSSIBLE MEDICAL OFFICES, SPORTS MEDICINE, GENERAL OFFICE SPACE, GENERAL RETAIL, SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR, OR THE LIVING UNITS WITH, UH, WITH YOUR BLESSING.
WE WOULD START AND BREAK GROUND TOMORROW IF WE COULD, BUT WE'RE, UH, WE'LL BE LOOKING MORE LIKE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR, WE DID MEET WITH THE HORIZON PARK HOA AND SHOWED THEM THE RENDITIONS AND, UH, HAD A VERY, UM, SURPRISING RESPONSE.
I WAS EXTREMELY SURPRISED AT THEIR RESPONSE.
THEIR RESPONSE WAS OKAY, WE'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE FROM THE SLEETER BONDS AND THE EX PARKS, IS THIS REALLY GONNA HAPPEN? UM, NOT WHAT DO WE DO? YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANY LIGHTING ISSUES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH ALL CODES, OF COURSE, FOR THE NIGHT SKY LIGHTING AND KEEPING THAT ALL IN.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING AND INTERESTING QUESTION.
SO THE HOA IN THE MEETING WAS, WAS EXCITED ABOUT IT, AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I WILL SHOW YOU THE COLOR PALETTE THAT WE THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT IN THE PUD THAT, UH, PUTS THE FABRIC MATERIAL IN THE STUCCO COLORS.
AND THOSE, THIS IS THE, UH, THIS IS YOUR, UM, FABRIC COLORS FOR THE DOME THAT CAN BE USED THE OPTIONS.
WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO THE FULL DESIGN PHASE YET UNTIL WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT FROM, UH, FROM THE ZONING CASE.
BUT, UM, WE HAVE THE, UH, THE LANDOWNER HERE, MYSELF, OUR ENGINEER, GARY JONES, AND OUR ARCHITECT, RICK MAZE.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PRESENTATION.
I'M GOING TO BACK THIS UP TO THE SITE.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I HAVE ONE COMMENT SUBMITTED TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD.
IT'S FROM A NATHAN CHELL STRUM ADDRESSES 2,700 EDGEWATER EDGEWATER DRIVE IN AUSTIN.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CARDS OR COMMENTS SUBMITTED.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM HERE? NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER.
MAY I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER? UM, THE, UM, FABRIC COVERED DOME.
WE HAVE A LOT OF WIND HERE IN TEXAS.
DOES IT GIVE OFF ANY NOISE TOO? IT'S A GREAT, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
YEAH, NO, I THINK THAT'S A, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
THE, UM, UH, I CAN ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE DOME, WHICH IS KIND OF UNIQUE.
IT IS A, THE WAY THAT IT, THAT IT WORKS.
IT HAS A NEGATIVE FLOW THAT PUSHES AIR FROM THE INSIDE UP, UM, KIND OF LIKE AN INFLATION TYPE OF THING, IF YOU WOULD.
AND THEN IT HAS SUPPORTING STRUCTURES THAT GO OVER THE TOP.
UM, THINK OF A, IT'S NOT ROPES, BUT THINK OF IT AS LIKE A TENT WITH ROPES ACROSS THE TOP TO KEEP IT FROM FLAPPING AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY COOL ABOUT IT IS IT'S NOT FIRE.
RETARDANT IS NOT, THE WORD IS FURTHER THAN FIRE-RETARDANT.
IT IS ONE THAT, UH, WHEN IT, WHEN IT PICKS UP, IF SOMETHING, IF YOU WERE TO HOLD A FLAME ON IT, IT, YOU MAY BURN A HOLE THROUGH IT, BUT THAT'S, IT, IT WON'T SPREAD IT.
UM, IT'S A, UM, VERY QUIET TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
AND I, DO YOU REMEMBER THE WINDAGE, UH, THAT ELLIPSE WITHHOLD ISN'T THERE LIKE 60 OR 80 MILES AN HOUR? I THINK
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IT'S DESIGNED FOR 90 OR 90 OR A HUNDRED MILE AN HOUR WINDS.SO IT HAS A SELF-SUPPORTED AND MEAN MECHANICAL SYSTEM THAT INFLATES THE SYSTEM.
IT HAS ALSO AN ONSITE BACKUP GENERATOR.
SO IF THERE WAS ANY POWER FAILURE THAT THE DOME, UM, WHEN RUN ON GENERATOR AND IF NEED BE, IT WOULD, IT WOULD SLOWLY DEFLATE IF NEED BE.
AND HE ALLOWED FOR INGRESS, UH, TO GET EVERYBODY OUT OF THERE, OUT OF THE FACILITY.
I CAN ALSO ADD THAT THE COMPANY THAT'S DOING THE DOME FOR US IS, UM, A NATIONAL COMPANY.
THEY'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE DONE ALL OVER.
THERE'S A COUPLE IN DALLAS, UH, ONE IN HOUSTON, UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA, AS I MENTIONED AND SHOWED THE PICTURES OF, UM, THE OTHER ISSUE WAS SINGING ABOUT WOULD BE THE POSSIBILITY OF LIGHT NOISE GOING, CAUSE YOU ARE FAIRLY CLOSE TO PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS.
WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THE, UH, WITH THE DARK SKY ORDINANCE, WHICH DIRECTS ALL LIGHTING TO NOT EXTEND OUTSIDE OF THE PERIMETER OF LIKE THE COURTS, FOR INSTANCE, THE OUTDOOR COURTS, THAT'S THE PRIMARY LIGHTING.
I MEAN, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY ACCIDENT LIGHTING AROUND THE FACILITY, BUT THE PRIMARY LIGHTING WOULD BE ON THE TENNIS COURTS.
AND IF YOU'LL NOTE, NOTICE THE TENNIS COURTS ARE ACTUALLY, UM, UPFRONT, I GET THIS THING TO DO IT THERE, BUT THE OUTDOOR TENNIS COURTS ARE UP FRONT.
THE NEIGHBORHOODS BACK HERE ACROSS THE TRAIN TRACKS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE TRAIN TRACK RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT BRUSH LINE.
SO IT'S CONSIDERABLE DISTANCE AWAY.
SO HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY FIT IN THIS DOME AT ONE TIME SINCE THERE'S NO SPRINKLER SYSTEM FIRE OR SOMETHING? CORRECT? YEAH, IT'S A, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THE TOTAL WITHOUT, UM, WHEN IT'S FULL USE, LIKE FOR THE COURTS SPECTATORS, THAT KIND OF THING.
WE ALSO HAVE A LIMITATION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT IF WE WANTED TO HOLD A DIFFERENT TYPE OF EVENT, LIKE IF THE CITY WANTED TO HAVE THE CHAMBER BANQUET THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, THERE'S REGULATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY SET UP IN THE
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT A DIVIDER TO BE ABLE TO KNOCK THAT OFF.
WE ALSO ARE PLANNING ON HAVING, UH, FOR THOSE TYPE OF EVENTS.
WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A FIREMAN ON DUTY, UH, THERE TO CHECK AND HAVE A CLICKER.
AND THEN IF YOU'RE DOING THIS, THE EITHER SEATED MIXTURE, TILE STYLE INSIDE THAT 6,700 SQUARE FEET, IT RANGES FROM 300 TO 600 PEOPLE.
SO MY OTHER, UM, QUESTION IS LET'S JUST SAY, CAUSE WE IN TEXT, WE NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO LET'S JUST SAY WE HAVE 120 MILE PER HOUR WIND WHERE THIS DOME LIKE BREAK AWAY OR WILL IT LIKE K YOU'VE EVER WILL.
IT WOULD DEFLATE IS WHAT IT WOULD DO.
AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DEFLATE IT.
IF IT CAME, IF, IF SOME REASON WE WERE GETTING HIT BY A HURRICANE OR SOMETHING GETTING UP THIS FAR.
AND, AND SO WHEN PEOPLE GO IN THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE SIGNAGE, LIKE JUST CAUSE I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE, AS SOON AS I'M GOING TO PLACE, EVEN AS THE RESTAURANT I'M LOOKING AROUND AND SEE, HOW CAN I GET OUT OF HERE? SO, WELL YOU HAVE STUFF UP LIKE THAT OR TRAINING FOR YOUR PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE TO HELP GET THE PEOPLE OUT OF.
IT'S ALSO A ADA COMPLIANT AND, UM, WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, THE EGRESS DOORS ARE, HAVE A CAPACITY LIMIT.
SO LIKE EACH DOOR HAS THE ABILITY TO HANDLE LIKE 300 PEOPLE.
I'M JUST GIVING YOU A ROUGH NUMBER, BUT THAT'S, SO WE GET FOUR TO SIX DOORS THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S ALSO GOING TO REQUIRE US TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE FIRE SOURCE DETECTION.
UM, NOT ONLY THE PULL STOPS LIKE YOU NORMALLY SEE AND AT THE EXIT, IT'S CLEARLY MARKED WITH THE EMERGENCY LIGHTING, BUT PROBABLY A SCANNING.
THERE'S A REALLY NEAT SYSTEM THAT, UH, ONE OF THE DOMES USES THAT IS A HEAT SCANNING SIGNATURE AND IT CONSTANTLY SCANS THE, THE ENTIRE FABRIC PART.
AND IT LOOKS FOR ANY HOTSPOTS.
SO IT CAN EARLY DETECTION IF THERE'S ANYTHING FROM THE OUTSIDE EFFECTING THAT.
SO IT'S, IT'S PRETTY SOPHISTICATED.
AND THEN THE NUMBER OF EGRESS IS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES, SIR, WE'RE MAKING SURE WE HAVE PLENTY OF EGRESS POINTS FOR ANY EMERGENCY.
NOW WE DEFINITELY CARE ABOUT MEN WITHIN NICOLE, BUT AS JUST A GRANDPARENT AND A PARENT, I CARE ABOUT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CODE IN CASE SOMETHING CRAZY HAPPENED.
CAUSE WE LIVE IN TEXAS REAL WELL.
ALRIGHTY, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THERE WOULD BE A SIDEWALK CONTINUING FROM RUSH AUTOMOTIVE FURTHER DOWN THIS TRIP.
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THAT CORRECT? YES.IT DOES ALL CONNECT AS A PART OF THEIR 10 FOLKS.
AND THEN YOU WERE MENTIONING THAT YOU WILL HAVE 50% PARKING FOR THE MULTI-USE.
IS THAT 50% GARAGE PARKING GARAGE PARKING? YES.
WHERE WOULD THAT BE? WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING FOR, WILL IT BE LIKE KIND OF OFF TO THE SIDE? THAT'S WHAT THAT ONE IT'S THE, IT'S THE TOP ONE POINT? SO THEY, THE GARAGES WOULD BE THIS ITEM HERE.
I'M REPEATING HER, LET HER BE PERFECT.
AND THE ENTRYWAYS INTO THE AREA THAT WILL BE JUST STRAIGHT OFF THE STREET OF 180 3.
IT WON'T BE LIKE A BUILT-IN TURNING LANE.
I THINK THAT THE TEXT DOCS REQUIRING A TURN LANE, I THINK THAT SCOTT'S RETIRING A DEDICATED TURN LANE.
EACH OF THEM, EACH OF THE TWO NEW ENTRANCES WOULD HAVE A TURN LANE.
AND THEN OTHER ONES YOU CAN GO FROM RUSH AUTOMOTIVE.
IT WAS RUSH, RUSH OUT AND ONE WAS ALREADY IN PLACE.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.
UH, MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED FROM YOUR PRESENTATION AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, I'M GLAD TO SEE THE TYPE OF HOUSING ABOVE THE RETAIL OF HAVE WANTED TO SEE THAT BUILT FOR A LONG TIME.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A DEMAND FOR THAT.
SO I LIKED THAT COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.
SO WE ENVISIONED LIFE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TENNIS COACH FOR THE PRO FOR THE, FOR THE FACILITY.
THOSE WOULD BE ONES THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL PROBABLY USE A FEW OF THE UNITS.
HOW MARRIED ARE YOU TO HAVING ALTERNATE EVENTS INSIDE OF THAT DOME? UM, IT, IT IS, IT IS NECESSARY FROM THE ECONOMICS OF IT.
AND, UH, UH IT'S IF IT WAS OUR WISH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY USE MORE OF THE DOME, WHICH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A VERY LARGE SPACE THAT WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT DOWN TO 65, 6700 SQUARE FEET FOR ANY TYPE OF INDOOR AGAIN.
SO WHAT WOULD YOUR INDOOR CAPACITY BE IF YOU COULD PUT 1400 IN THERE PLAYING TENNIS, I'M THINKING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FIVE, 6,000 IN THERE FOR AN INDOOR EVENT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
SO THE CODE, THE EIGHT FOUR DESIGNATION CODE LIMITS, THE, UH, THE OVERALL USE OF THE SPACE DOWN TO 6,700 SQUARE FEET.
AND THEN THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT DESIGNATIONS, WHETHER YOU'RE DOING A SEATED LIKE THIS, UH, LIKE A, UH, FOR A MEETING, WHETHER YOU'RE DOING A BANQUET STYLE WITH ROUND TABLES, UM, FOR SEATING OR WHETHER YOU'RE DOING A MIXER STYLE WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE SEPARATE, SEPARATE THINGS OUT.
AND THOSE NUMBERS RUN ANYWHERE FROM 300 MAX, UM, IN THE SEATING, THE SEATING STYLE UP TO ABOUT 600 MAX IN THE, UM, OPENED, UH, UH, MIXED OR EXCEPT I GOT TO TELL YOU, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PLACE THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE IN A PLACE THAT'S ON SPRINKLED.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN
EVERYTHING CAN HAPPEN UNDER THE ROOF, BUT YOU'RE IN AN UNSPRINGTIME FACILITY.
THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN IT, EATING AND DINNER AT A ROUND TABLE AND SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THEY ALL RUN.
I'M A FACILITIES GUY AND THAT SCARES ME IMMENSELY.
YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED HOW MARRIED YOU ARE TO IT.
CAUSE I'D LOVE TO SEE THIS AND SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO IT WITH YOUR TENNIS, BUT YOU KNOW, ALTERNATE USES, I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE, I WOULD LIKE TO LIMIT YOU TO NOT BEING ABLE TO DO OTHER THAN TENNIS FUNCTIONS.
RIGHT? WELL, THE, UM, THE CHAMBER IS ALREADY EXCITED ABOUT THE USE OF THE FACILITY.
UH, AND IT'S, IT'S A RELATIVELY, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT, UH, OR LEADING THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE EGRESS AND LIMITING, BUT YOU'RE NOT MEETING THE SPRINKLER REQUIREMENTS FOR LARGER GROUPS.
WE ARE BY THE, FOR DESIGNATION.
SO LET ME GO, LET ME ADD THIS TO YOU, MR. CARPENTER.
UM, ANY OF THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS WOULD HAVE TO COME THROUGH COUNCIL WITH SPECIAL USE PERMIT, NOT THROUGH ME.
AND THIS IS THE ONE SHOT I GET TO MAKE MY, YOU KNOW, MY MYSELF KNOWING ON THIS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT ANY, ANY SPECIAL EVENT THAT'S HELD OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL A FOR DESIGNATION WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, ON A PERMITTED BASIS.
THAT'D BE CHIPPING UP ON THAT.
IF YOU LOOK AT, IT'S HARD TO TELL WHAT THIS RENDERING, BUT YOU HAVE OUR MAIN ENTRANCE HERE, WHICH WOULD BE LIKE AN AIRLOCK.
AND THEN WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, THERE'S LIKE EIGHT EGRESS.
UM, BUT NOT AS MANY AS YOU WOULD HAVE IN A BANQUET HALL, IT WOULD BE WELL, OKAY.
I'M GOING TO TRUST THE FIRE CHIEF BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY WORK.
YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT PHASE TWO, THE MIXED USE PERMIT IS FROM, IS A PHASE TWO.
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DO YOU ANTICIPATE STARTING PHASE TWO? I MEAN, IS THIS GOING TO SIT HERE AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TENNIS FACILITY HERE AND THE REST OF THE FACILITY DOESN'T GET BUILT FOR THREE YEARS.I DON'T SUPPOSE YOU'D PUT THAT INTO YOUR BUD.
UM, BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH ECONOMICS AND IT'S JUST, IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO DO THAT.
DID THE LOCAL PEOPLE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT? CAUSE YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR NOTIFICATIONS TO LOCALS, THAT YOU WOULD A REPORT HERE, WHAT WAS SAID FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNICATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I HAVEN'T, THAT'S ALL, THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE ALL IN SUPPORT OF IT.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS, A COUPLE OF GENERAL QUESTIONS.
LIKE YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE LIGHTING, HOW TALL THE DOME WOULD BE.
UM, THERE WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT THEY THOUGHT THAT THE CODE WOULD REQUIRE US TO BUILD A CONCRETE WALL TO SEPARATE, BUT BECAUSE THE TRAIN IS THERE, THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, ACTUALLY IT WOULD, IT WOULD HURT THE SUBDIVISION.
IF WE BUILT A, A WALL ON THIS SIDE THAT WOULD AMPLIFY THE TRAIN SOUND BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT'S NOT PART OF THE REQUIREMENT THROUGH THE CODE.
AND SO THOSE WERE THE GENERAL QUESTIONS FROM THE HOA.
SO MY LAST THING WOULD BE, IF THIS, WOULD WE ALLOW OTHER MULTIFAMILY UNITS TO BE BUILT ALONG 180 3, LIKE THAT, IS IT ZONED TO APPROPRIATE THAT WE WOULD, IT'S NOT, THEY'D HAVE TO COME IN WITH A CHANGE, LIKE A, THIS IS A SPECIAL, YOU KNOW, PORTION OF THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THIS DOES COINCIDE WITH THE, WITH THE MIXED USE CORRIDOR ON THE TOP LINE.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS.
MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR STAFF, BUT I DO APPRECIATE IT.
AND I WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER LAND TRIPS, COMMENT ABOUT THE VERTICAL MIXED USE.
I'M ACTUALLY EXCITED TO SEE A PRODUCT COME IN, UH, HERE IN THE END OR FOR VERTICAL MIXED USE.
I THINK THERE DEFINITELY IS A DEMAND FOR THAT.
AND, AND DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AND HOPE YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
UM, MY QUESTION THOUGH IS GOING TO BE FOR STAFF.
UM, SO THE 50% GARAGE UNITS FOR THE, FOR THE MIXTURES, UH, PRODUCT, DOES THAT COMPLY WITH OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES? NO.
UM, SO THE, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE WORKS TODAY, IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, GARAGES.
AND THEN, SO FOR THE, SO OUR DECISION TONIGHT FOR OUR RECOMMENDATION EITHER APPROVAL OR DENIAL, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE 50% FOR GARAGE UNITS AND THE NONSTANDARD BUILDING? THOSE ARE BOTH PART OF THE PIE.
SO IF WE SAY YES, THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR BOTH OF THOSE.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR.
AND ALSO, UM, ROBIN, I KNOW YOU WERE LOOKING FOR IT, BUT I I'M JUST CURIOUS, WILL IT REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR A SPECIAL USE? SO I, I'M NOT SURE.
I KNOW WE JUST DID IT FOR THE BULL RIDING I'M ON SAN GABRIEL RIVER PARK, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I'VE SEEN, BUT IT'S NOT A PERMIT I NORMALLY REVIEW, BUT I CAN FIND OUT WHICH PER THE FIRE, CHIEF FIRE, MARSHALL, CHIEF AND COMMISSION WALLS.
MY OTHER QUESTION IS, OKAY, YOU'RE SAYING 50%, UM, PARKING, ALL RIGHT.
SO A HUNDRED PERCENT PARKING, 50%, WELL, 50% WELL IN MOM AND MY WORLD, IF I DON'T HAVE A GARAGE, THAT'S NOT PARKING, BUT SO, SO MY QUESTION IS WHY CAN'T IT BE A HUNDRED PERCENT GARAGES? I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO LIVE IN A FACILITY LIKE THAT, YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, HUNT FOR A PLACE TO PARK.
EVEN IF YOU HAVE DESIGNATED PARKING AREAS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T PARK WHERE THEY WANT TO PARK ANYWHERE, UNLESS YOU GET SOMEBODY STANDING OUT THERE GARDENING.
SO MY QUESTION IS, WHY WOULDN'T YOU JUST, IT WAS ONLY 20 UNITS AND GIVING THEM 20 GARAGES.
SO THAT'S A GREAT, ANOTHER GREAT QUESTION.
IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE SIZE AND THE CONSTRAINT OF THE, UM, OF THE FACILITY OF THE LAND.
IF WE PUT 20 GARAGES AND WE HAVE TO TAKE THOSE GENERAL PARKING PLACES AWAY, WHICH FOR NOW WE WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH GENERAL PARKING PLACES TO MEET THE CODE FOR THE DOME.
UH, THE GARAGE HAS TAKE UP MORE SPACE THAN ONE PARKING PLACE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY, AND, UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE MAIN USE IS BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE FACILITY.
BUT I'M SAYING ALL THIS MAN, IT SEEMS TO ME Y'ALL CAN FIGURE OUT SOMETHING TO GET 10 MORE GARAGES IN THERE.
EVEN IF THE GARAGES ARE LIKE AWAY FROM THE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT HAVE GARAGES ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT AT LEAST THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE CAN HAVE A GARAGE.
THIS GREEN AREA DOWN HERE IN THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE IS ESSENTIALLY USED FOR DETENTION.
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WE HAVE, YOU NEED TO COME CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE, SORRY, THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE, AS HIGHLIGHTED HERE, THAT WOULD BE DESIGNATED FOR OUR, UH, DETENTION AREA.WE HAVE A DETENTION FACILITY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT HERE, AS WELL AS, UM, THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE BACKWASH OF THE WATER THAT CAN NOT GO THROUGH UNDERNEATH THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY RIGHT NOW, PRIOR TO, UM, DESIGN WE'RE ALLOWING FOR THAT MUCH, IT ALSO HAS TO INCORPORATE THE DEVELOPMENT FLOWS FOR THE RUSH AUTOMOTIVE.
SO THAT IS THE REASON WHY, WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT STARTS, WHERE IT IS AND THE GREEN SPACES TO THE SOUTH.
I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THAT ANSWER, BUT I HAVE TO ACCEPT IT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I, I DID CONFIRM IN THE ORDINANCE THAT IT DOES GO TO COUNCIL FOR THE SPECIAL EVENT.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS AN ACTUAL ITEM MOTION TO APPROVE.
SO THE THERE'S NO SECOND, THEN THAT MOTION FAILS UP.
WELL, IN AN ATTEMPT, I'LL SAY I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AS LONG AS IT'S NOT BEING USED FOR ULTIMATE EVENTS INSIDE OF THE INFLATABLE STRUCTURE AND THAT THEY FIND A WAY TO WORK OUT GARAGE PARKING FOR ALL UNITS.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOSS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSED.
SO IT PASSES FOUR TO TWO COMMISSIONERS HAMPTON AND MEHAN WERE AGAINST IT.
UM, AND THE MOTION WAS TO, UM, LIMIT THE USES WITHIN THE DOME TO JUST THE TENNIS USES.
AND THEN 100% GARAGE PARKING FOR THE MIXED WORD, PLEASE.
MA'AM I WILL SAY THAT WE RECORD, UH, I'M IN, I LIKE THIS PROJECT, UH, RESTRICTING THE DUMB, I'M JUST NOT TOO SURE ABOUT THAT.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT, BUT I JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH AGREEING WITH THAT MOTION A HUNDRED PERCENT PARKING.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE COMMISSIONER MOSQUE HAS GONE WITH THAT, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE PROJECT ITSELF.
IT'S JUST KIND OF NOT DOABLE, BUT IF YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT GREAT.
BUT NEVERTHELESS, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A TOUGH ONE FOR ME.
AND JUST SO JUST SINCE IT'S ON THE RECORD, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, THE REASON I WAS AGAINST IT, UM, I, I AGREE WITH THE A HUNDRED PERCENT PARKING I'M, I DON'T REALLY LIKE TELLING A DEVELOPER OR A LANDOWNER WHAT TO DO ONCE WE APPROVE THEIR STUFF.
AND SO BY RECOMMENDING THAT THEY LIMIT THEIR USES, I JUST FELT THAT THAT WASN'T OUR PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S MY PLACE TO DO SO.
I WANT TO SAY OUR PLACE, CAUSE I'M SPEAKING FOR ME ONLY, UM, THANKSGIVING.
UM, BUT I, I ALSO DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE COMING IN LOOKING FOR TWO BIG, UH, WAIVERS, WHICH IS THE DOME, WHICH IS A NON-STANDARD BUILDING MATERIAL AS WELL AS THE 50% TO THE GARAGE.
THAT WAS JUST A BRIDGE TOO FAR FOR ME.
[12. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 22-Z-008 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFS-2-B (Single-Family Suburban) to GC-3-C (General Commercial) on one parcel of land approximately 2.3 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R032240; and more commonly known as 50 High Gabriel East, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Discussion Consider Action]
ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 22 DASH Z DASH 0 0 8.TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFS, TWO B SINGLE FAMILY, SUBURBAN TWO G C3 SEE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 2.3 ACRES IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON COUNTY CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCEL R 0 3 2 2 4, 0 AND MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 50 HIGH GABRIEL EASILY AND ARE WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION JUSTIN HUNT WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY AS COMMERCIAL, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND POSTPONE ACTION ON THE CASE DURING THE APRIL 28TH, UH, 2022 MEETING TO ALLOW FOR A STAFF TIME TO REVIEW THE COMMISSION'S CONCERN REGARDING THE PERMITTED USES AND TO CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY ATTORNEY REVIEWED THE PROPOSED CHANGE AND CONFIRMED THAT MOVING FORWARD WITH A MINOR PUD WITH THE GC DASH THREE DASH A ZONING DISTRICT WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE CHANGE
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SINCE THE PROPO.UH, THE PURPOSE IN THE PUD IS ONLY THE PROHIBITED USES.
THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO AMEND THE REQUESTS AND WORKED WITH STAFF ON THE, UH, PUT NOTES IN YOUR, UM, IN YOUR PACKET.
THE FOLLOWING USES ARE PROPOSED TO BE PROHIBITED.
WE HAVE ANIMAL BOARDING BAR NIGHTCLUB OR PRIVATE CLUBS, ENTERTAINMENT, VENUES, UH, FARMS, OR TRUCK GARDENS, LIQUOR STORE, FUNERAL, HOME MANUFACTURED, HOUSING SELLS AND ACCESSORY BUILDING SELLS TRANSPORTATION RELATED FACILITIES, NEW VEHICLE AND MAJOR EQUIPMENT SELLS OUTDOOR NURSERIES, WHOLESALE ACTIVITIES WITH LESS THAN 3,500 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR THIS.
UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SO I'LL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE APPLICANT.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF SHAKE KIRKMAN 1130 COTTONWOOD CREEK TRAIL IN CEDAR PARK.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME COME IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN, AS, AS STAFF EXPLAINED, YOU SEE, INSTEAD OF THE GC WAS ON YOUR REQUEST, YOU SEE YOUR MINOR PUD REQUEST WITH THOSE RESTRICTED USES.
UH, THANK YOU STAFF FOR WORKING WITH ME PRETTY QUICK TO GET THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA.
UM, BUT AGAIN, JUST, JUST TO REMIND THE VISION, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HOPE THAT FRONT PAD CAN ATTRACT RETAIL.
UH, THE GC JUST DOES GIVE US, UH, THE ABILITY TO ATTRACT MORE RETAIL OPTIONS.
WE THINK THAT'S A GREAT USE FOR THE, FOR THE FRONTAGE PAD AND THEN OUR PLAN FOR THE PADS BEHIND IT ARE TO DO PROFESSIONAL OFFICER MEDICAL OFFICE.
AND AS I STATED BEFORE, MY MY PLAN IS TO PUT MY, MY PERSONAL ENGINEERING COMPANY IN IT.
ONE OF OUR PARTNERS, UH, WOULD LIKE TO PUT HIS TITLE COMPANY, UH, IN ONE OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS.
SO, UM, BUT THAT'S REALLY THE MANNER.
THE, THE CHANGE IS TO HOPEFULLY RESTRICT THE USES.
THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT THAT IN THE LAST DISCUSSION.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY THIS, UH, CHECKS THOSE BOXES, BUT IF NOT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK HEARING NONE? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR, OH, I'M SORRY.
IF YOU PLEASE COME UP AND NOPE.
SO YOU NEED, YOU HAVE TO COME UP AND SPEAK YOUR NAME INTO THE MICROPHONE AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
THIS IS THE LAST MINUTE DECISION ON MY PART.
ART MACKLE HERON 5 0 1 HIGH GABRIEL EAST.
SO THE END OF HIGH GABRIEL IS A, BASICALLY A CIRCLE DRIVE FOR MY RESIDENTS.
AND I'VE ALSO GOT MY OFFICE THERE.
UM, I WAS MADE, UH, FAMILIAR WITH THIS WHEN, UH, MR. KIRKMAN SENT OUT INFORMATION TO ALL OF THE, UH, PROPERTY RS, WHICH IS REALLY JUST TO AT THE END OF THE ROAD.
AND WE THINK, I MEAN, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, THIS IS A, UM, IT WAS A GOOD USE OF THE LAND.
AND HAVING BEING SOMEONE WHO LIVES AT THE END OF THAT, I THINK IT'S, UH, I THINK IT'S GREAT.
I THINK OF ALL THE POSSIBLE USES OF THAT LAND.
THAT'S, UH, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING BETTER, SO THAT'S IT.
UM, ELLEN, DOES HE NEED TO FILL OUT THE CARD? UM, SIR, IF YOU COULD GET A CARD AND FILL IT OUT FOR US, PLEASE THIS WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THAT WAY WE HAVE IT FOR OUR RECORDS AND IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE, MAKE SURE I DON'T MISS IT THIS TIME.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HERE AND I'LL OPENED UP FOR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
UH I'M OKAY WITH THIS COMMISSION ELECTRIC, NO QUESTIONS, MR. HAMPTON.
UH, DO YOU, UH, DO YOU OWN ALL THAT LAND OR JUST THIS LITTLE SLIVER HERE OFF TO THE RIGHT? OH, COOL.
THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT I'VE SEEN LIKE THIS.
SO I GUESS NORTH OF THAT SUBJECT LINE.
SO OF RIGHT ABOVE, YES, THE AREA OUTLINED IN RED, UH, MY PARTNERS AND I OWN THE PROPERTY RIGHT BEHIND IT, UH, WHICH IS ANOTHER TWO ACRES.
WE ALSO OWN THAT'S THE PROPERTY.
THAT LAST TIME WHEN I WAS HERE, I WAS TALKING ABOUT ADDING SOME PROFESSIONAL OFFICE PADS ON THAT TRACK.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT STEP IN MY PROCESS.
IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS, YOU'LL SEE A ZONING REQUEST FOR THAT.
AND THEN YOUR FUTURE, THIS TRACT UP HERE IS A MUCH LARGER TRACT AND I DO NOT OWN THAT.
AND IS THAT A ROAD RIGHT ABOVE THE RED LINE? THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT'S HIGH GABRIEL EAST AND IT'S A EXISTING GRAVEL ROAD.
AND AS PART OF OUR PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT INTO A CONCRETE ROAD TO A CITY STANDARD.
AND WE ALREADY HAVE TECH STOTTS PRELIMINARY APPROVAL FOR A DECELERATION LANE AND A TURN LANE INTO HIGH GABRIEL TO HELP PULL SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC OFF.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED OUR TECHSTOP PLANS TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT APPROVED.
PROMPTS THE ALL THAT COMMISSIONED MOSS.
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SHOW ME I'M GOOD.LOOK, TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MAY 2ND BY COMMISSIONER MOSS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ITEM
[13. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 22-Z-013 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to adopt the 805 S. Bagdad PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning district of GC-2-A (General Commercial) on one parcel of land approximately 2.26 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R035153; and legally described as Lots 2 & 3, Block B of the Falcon Oaks Sec 1 Subdivision, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Discussion Consider Action]
NUMBER 13, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 22 DASH Z 0 1 3.TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR.
ONE B SINGLE-FAMILY RURAL TO ADOPT THE 8 0 5 SOUTH BAGHDAD BUD WITH THE BASIS ONLY IN DISTRICT OF GC TO A GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 2.26 ACRES IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY THE WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCEL R 0 3 5 1 5 3 AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOTS, TWO AND THREE BLOCK B OF THE FALCON OAK SECTION ONE SUBDIVISION IN THE END ARE WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, UH, JUSTIN HUNT WITH A PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP OF THE ZONING PROCESS.
AND, UH, SIMILAR TO THE OTHER CASE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REVIEWED THIS REQUEST DURING THE APRIL 28TH, 2022 MEETING AND PUT, UH, POSTPONE ACTION TO ALLOW CITY STAFF TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AND ADD ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS TO THE PUD.
UH, THE COMMISSION EXPRESS CONCERNS REGARDING THE INCREASED INTENSITY AND THE BUILDING HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSAL.
THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO CHANGE THE ZONING DISTRICT TO, UM, MINOR POD WITH A BASE ZONING OF LC DASH TO A, UH, LOCAL COMMERCIAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT A SELF STORAGE FACILITY IS ALLOWED.
UH, THIS CHANGE WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR A MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL, UH, WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES.
IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO RETAIL IN RESTAURANTS.
THE HEIGHT LIMIT IS 35 FEET FOR ELSIE DASH TWO DASH A DISTRICT, AS WELL AS, UM, ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.
UM, THE APPLICANT ALSO, UM, UPDATED OUTREACH, UM, WITH, UH, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AND IS HERE FOR A PRESENTATION WITH A PRESENTATION AS WELL.
THANK YOU, APPLICANT PRESENTATION.
I HOPE THIS IS STILL FRESH ON YOUR MINDS AND I DON'T WANT TO WASTE A LOT OF YOUR TIME, BUT SO I'LL TRY AND KEEP IT SHORT.
MY NAME IS NEIL NICK, AND I'M WITH THE DRAENOR GROUP.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, AGAIN, EXISTING ZONING RIGHT NOW IS SFR ONE B.
I WAS ACTUALLY ABLE BASED ON COMMISSION'S COMMENTS LAST TIME TO GET A BETTER AERIAL SHOT THAT REALLY SHOWS THAT REALLY REPRESENTS THE PROPERTY A LITTLE BIT CLEARER.
UM, SO THE PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO THIS THAT HAD SHOWN SOME ENCROACHMENT OF THE BUILDINGS, AND I HAD EXPLAINED THAT THAT WAS AN AERIAL SKEW.
I ENDED UP FINDING AN OLDER ARIEL AND THANKFULLY NOTHING HAS CHANGED OUT THERE, BUT IT'S CLEARLY SHOWN THAT REALLY THERE ISN'T ANY ENCROACHMENT ON THAT WESTERN SIDE.
HERE ARE THE ITEMS THAT I REALLY WANT, WANT TO TOUCH ON.
SO WE HEARD EVERYTHING THAT COUNCIL OR EXCUSE ME, THE COMMISSION DISCUSSED LAST TIME.
UM, ONE ISSUE THAT CAME UP WAS THE ACCESS POINTS.
AND I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WE DO HAVE ONE EXISTING ACCESS ON BAGHDAD AND WE HAVE ONE EXISTING ACCESS ON FALCON OAKS.
OUR, UH, OUR INTENT IS TO RETAIN THOSE AND NOT SHIFT THEM IN ANY WAY AND NOT REMOVE THEM.
ONE QUESTION WAS WHY GC NOT LC, ROBIN AND STAFF WERE THANKFULLY VERY QUICK TO WORK WITH US, MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD MAKE THOSE CHANGES, EXCUSE ME, AS PART OF THAT, UH, THE HOURS OF OPERATION CHANGED AND WE WERE TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT.
UH, WE HAD NEVER INTENDED TO BE A 20 HOUR FACILITY, SO THAT WASN'T A CHANGE IN OUR BUSINESS PLAN AT ALL THE BUILDING HEIGHT RIGHT NOW.
LAST TIME WE WEREN'T SO SURE ABOUT IT.
WE'VE SINCE PUT PEN TO PAPER AND WE CAN COLLECTIVELY SAY THAT WE WILL BE AT 34 AND A HALF FEET MAXIMUM.
THAT IS ONLY IF THE AIR CONDITIONERS ARE ON THE ROOFTOP AND WE HAVE A PARAPET WALL.
SO THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THAT WILL ACTUALLY END UP BEING LOWER.
THE IMPORTANT PART OF THAT IS THAT I KNOW THAT WE WOULD COMPLY WITH THAT 35 FOOT MAXIMUM HEIGHT LIMIT.
THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM COMMISSION TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS.
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WE DID SEND ADDITIONAL LETTERS, A PART OF THOSE LETTERS.WE OUTLINED THE SHIFT FROM GC TO LC CLARIFIED THAT THERE WERE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS, UH, RENEWED OUR INTENTION THAT WE'RE REPLACING THE VEHICULAR STORAGE AND PLACING A BUILDING THERE CLARIFIED THAT WE'D BE A MAXIMUM 34.5 FEET IN HEIGHT.
SAY THAT WE'D BE A HUNDRED PERCENT MASONRY FACADE, WHICH WE STILL DO INTEND TO DO THAT.
WE'D UPDATE THE FENCING ON THE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, SIDE.
SO THE WESTERN PART OF THE PROPERTY, AND THAT WE'D BE ELIMINATING THE HOURS TO MEET THE LC STANDARD.
AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, WE DID HAVE ONE RESIDENT WHO SPOKE, UH, SPECIFICALLY IN REGARD TO THE TREES.
I WAS ABLE TO CATCH UP WITH HER AFTER THE MEETING AND GET HER CONTACT INFORMATION.
I FOLLOWED UP WITH A TELEPHONE CALL WITH HER.
I'M NOT, I BELIEVE SHE'S HERE TONIGHT, BUT I JUST FOLLOW UP WITH A TELEPHONE CALL TO HER, SPOKE TO HER ABOUT HER ISSUES.
AND WE DID SPEAK A LOT ABOUT THE TREES.
HER INTENT WAS REALLY JUST DON'T TAKE AWAY THE TREES.
AND, AND I REALLY HAD TO EMPHASIZE THAT THERE ARE NO TREES ON SITE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOUNDARY, THERE ARE NO TREES ON SITE.
IF YOU GO OUT TO THE SITE, THERE ARE NO TREES THERE.
UM, AND NOT TO DISMISS HER COMMENTS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE SHE'S COMING FROM.
UM, BUT SHE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
AND THEN SHE HAD A FOLLOWUP QUESTION ABOUT THE ACCESS POINTS AND I CLARIFIED WITH HER THAT, YES, WE DO HAVE ONE ACCESS ON FALCON OAKS, ONE ACCESS ON BAGHDAD.
UM, AND REALLY WE NEED BOTH OF THEM TO MAKE THE FIRE REQUIREMENTS WORK AT THE END OF THE DAY.
AND, AND SHE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT ANSWER.
SO REALLY I'D LIKE TO STOP THERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
UM, WE'LL DO THAT AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING, SIR.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I DO HAVE SOMEONE SIGNED UP THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
UH, PAT POST I SUPPOSE, IF YOU'LL JUST SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO A MICROPHONE AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES EVENING.
MY NAME IS PAT POSTS AND I LIVE AT 1209 FALCON OAKS DRIVE.
UM, I'VE LIVED THERE EVER SINCE THAT DEVELOPMENT OPENED.
SO I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 40 YEARS AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES.
UM, AND I'VE SEEN SOME, UH, BUSINESSES COME IN AND, AND I WORRY ABOUT, I WORRY ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, BECAUSE IT'S A VERY HARD BUILDING.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THIS FROM ALL OVER.
UM, IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T LOOK TO ME LIKE IT KIND OF FITS IN THE PLAN OR THE REST OF THE ROAD.
I MEAN, THE REST OF THE ROAD IS IT, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESSES AROUND IT AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS KIND OF AROUND IT NOW IT'S MUCH LOWER.
AND, UH, AND I WORRY ABOUT THE LIGHTING PART OF IT.
CAUSE I MEAN, I REALIZE YOU GOTTA HAVE LIGHTING FOR SECURITY AND EVERYTHING, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ADDING A LOT OF LIGHTING TO ME.
UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A LOT OF LAND.
I MEAN, ALL WE HAVE, WE HAVE AN ACRE OF LAND.
MOST OF US, UM, WE HAVE THAT ACRE FOR A REASON.
I'M SURE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, SECURE SOME PRIVACY AND, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF TREES AND, AND STUFF TO JUST KINDA, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE NATURE AND EVERYTHING OUT THERE.
AND WE HAVE A LINE OF NATURE OUT THERE.
UM, AND I JUST, I GET CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE LIGHTING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND HOW THAT'S GONNA ATTRACT OR DETRACT FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE OUT THERE.
UM, AND I ALSO AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE ACCESS ROAD, UH, ON FALCON OAKS.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT LARGE, RIGHT? IT GRANTED IT'S NOT VERY FAR.
I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GOING VERY FAR FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM WHERE THEIR ENTRANCE IS GOING TO BE TO, YOU KNOW, BAGHDAD, BUT THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD.
A LOT OF PEOPLE USE THAT ROAD IS ACCESS TO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE OTHER, UM, DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMING IN.
UH, IT'S A, IT'S A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GET AROUND THE, UH, SUNNY AND BAGHDAD INTERSECTION, WHICH IS ACTUALLY KIND OF A BAD INTERSECTION.
IF Y'ALL EVER BEEN OVER THERE, IT'S BEEN REALLY KIND OF BAD.
UM, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE USE OUR ROAD TO GET AROUND IT.
UM, AND, AND I KNOW THIS FACILITY IS GOING TO HAVE A NUMBER OF UNITS IN IT AND WHEREAS IT ISN'T WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT IT'S STORAGE AND NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE USE IT ALL THE TIME, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE IS GOING TO BE A CONSIDERABLE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT MAY, YOU KNOW, IMPEDE OUR ROAD A BIT, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR ROAD BEING SO SMALL.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF MY CONCERNS.
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I JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT LARGE REALLY FITS IN OUR, IN THIS PART OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, WITH THE HOUSES AS CLOSE AS THEY ARE.SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF MY CONCERNS AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL LISTENING AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM SEEING NONE? WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER MAY QUESTION FOR STAFF.
HOW HIGH IS THE TYPICAL TWO STORY RESIDENTIAL UNIT? THERE'S A LIMIT OF 35 FEET MAX HEIGHT FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.
I, I KNOW IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AVERAGE ROOFTOP IS, IS RIGHT AROUND THAT 30, 35 FEET.
SO AT 34.5 FEET, YOU'RE MORE THAN, I THINK THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE, IT WAS MENTIONED THOSE 40 OR 45 FEET.
I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES IN FRONT OF ME FROM THE LAST MEETING.
BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT 40 BETWEEN 40 AND 45.
AND NOW I CAN TELL YOU THAT LET'S SAY IT'S 34.5 FEET.
IT'S ALMOST THE SIZE OF A TWO-STORY CORRECT.
I DO APPRECIATE YOU REACHING OUT TO YOUR NEIGHBORS.
UM, THE LAST THING THE CITY WANTS IS EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MARCHING DOWN TO CITY HALL TO COMPLAIN ON THE ISSUE.
AND I THINK YOU'VE MET EVERYTHING THAT WE MENTIONED IN THE LAST MEETING.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, MR. MOSS, NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
UM, SO IS IT, I GUESS THE LINK, I GUESS, WILL IT BE 35, 34 AND A HALF HEIGHT? HOW WAS THE LENGTH OF THE, WHEN WE'VE LINKED FOR THE SPACE OR, UH, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BUILDING DIMENSIONS OR SEPARATION FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY BUILDING DIMENSIONS? UM, YEAH, I CAN PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU.
AND THEN, UM, WILL IT BE LIKE A FIRST LEVEL, SECOND LEVEL STORAGE AREA OR, UH, IS IT JUST LIKE, CAN GET YOU ME A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND? UH, WE ARE ANTICIPATING THREE STORIES FOR STORAGE.
SO DIMENSION WISE, UH, IT'LL BE APPROXIMATELY 160.
I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M DOING THIS.
THERE'S THE EXHIBIT RIGHT THERE.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 160 BY, I'D SAY 180 OR SO DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT.
I'M TRYING TO READ REALLY SMALL PRINT.
AND YOU WERE ALSO KEEPING THE TWO EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT'S SET THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY.
WE ARE LOOKING AT OPTIONS TO POTENTIALLY TAKE ONE WAY AND EXPAND SOME OF THAT PROPOSED BUILDING WHERE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WORKS LOGISTICS WISE.
GOING BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND LOWERING THAT HYPE.
YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING THAT PIQUED ME A LITTLE BIT WAS IF YOU WOULD CHANGE THE BUILDING, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOUR THREE STORY STRUCTURE GETS BIGGER.
DOES IT, WE WOULD STILL COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS? WELL, I MEAN, JUST AS IT PHYSICALLY INSTEAD OF 160 FEET, IS IT NOW 180 OR 190 FEET? UH, IS IT A BIGGER SQUARE BOX? IS WHAT I'M SAYING? IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A BIGGER SQUARE BOX.
AND DO I SEE THAT RIGHT? THAT ALONG THE SIDE THAT ARE OUR RESIDENTS CONCERNED ABOUT, IS THAT THE ENTRANCE AND PARKING ALONG THAT WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH SO ALONG THE WEST SIDE, THERE'S A 10 FOOT PUE.
SO FROM A CROSS-SECTION STANDPOINT, YOU WOULD HAVE ON THE PROPERTY LINE, THE, THE MASONRY FENCE, THE MASONRY WALL THAT ABUTS THE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY, THERE'S A 10 FOOT PEEWEE THERE.
AND THEN WE'D ADD A MINIMUM, HAVE TO HAVE A 25 FOOT FIRE LANE.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE'D HAVE OUTSIDE OF THAT FIRE LANE, A LOADING ZONE.
SO IN REALITY, THAT BUILDING WOULD PRETTY MUCH START ABOUT 45 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE COLORS, THE BLUE AND GOLD, UH, THE, THE BLUE, WE KNOW WE'LL BE INDOOR STORAGE.
OH, THE GOLD WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT AS, AS POTENTIAL OUTDOOR ACCESSIBLE STORAGE.
ONLY GARAGE DOORS IN THE HOTEL.
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FOR STAFF.WHAT ARE THE, WHAT IS OUR CITY LIGHTING, LIGHTING ORDINANCES OR WORKLOADS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADHERE TO? SO THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE DARK SKY REGULATIONS.
SO ALL LIGHTING HAS TO BE FULL CUTOFF DOWNWARD FACING, AND IT CAN'T SHINE INTO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
AND IS THERE A TIME IN WHICH IT HAS TO WITH LOCAL COMMERCIAL? AND IS IT DIFFERENT FOR ANY OF THE THINGS THAT'S THE TURN OFF NOW? THE TIME LIMIT.
JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M READING THIS RIGHT.
THE HOURS OPERATION 5:00 AM TO 10:00 PM AND THEN 5:00 AM TO 11:00 PM, FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, CORRECT.
WITH THE COMMISSION MIND, IF I SPEAK TO YOUR COMMENTS AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS, WE DO INTEND TO FULLY COMPLY WITH THE LIGHTING REQUIREMENT AS WELL AS THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
AND, AND I DID WANT TO SAY THAT, UH, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR LISTENING TO OUR COMMENTS LAST TIME AND OUR CONCERNS, AND GOING BACK TO THIS BASE ZONING DISTRICT, UM, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, JUST, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A, A CATCH-UP TO THIS WAS, UH, A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS IN VOLUNTARILY ANNEX INTO THE CITY AND THE EXISTING USE IS STORAGE TODAY, AND THAT WAS THERE PRIOR TO IT BEING INVOLUNTARY.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS STILL ALLOWING THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO THEIR BUSINESS, BUT ALSO WORRYING ABOUT THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THAT STRETCH OF ROAD.
SO THAT'S WHY, UM, I, I PERSONALLY ASKED FOR THE LOWER BASE ZONING OF THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL.
SO, SO I THINK TO NOTE TOO, IT'S AN OUTDOOR STORAGE FACILITY.
THEY HAVE VEHICLES PARKED IN A YARD, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE DRIVEN PAST THERE, IT'S, UH, NOT TO BE OFFENSIVE TO YOU, BUT IT'S KIND OF AN EYESORE AND TO HAVE A BUILDING THAT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY THE SAME SIZE AS RESIDENTIAL USE BUILDINGS THAT WOULD CLEAN THAT UP.
I THINK IT WOULD LOOK A LOT BETTER ALONG BAGHDAD ROAD.
I, I AGREE WITH THE HEIGHT, BUT THE SIZE OF THE THING, IT'S GOING TO BE HUGE.
AT LEAST I, IN MY IMAGINATION, I COULD BE COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT THE HEIGHT IS, IS GOOD, BUT THE, THE WIDTH AND THE LENGTH OF THAT GOING DOWN BACK THERE, I SEE IT.
CAN I GO DOWN THAT STREET ALL DAY? UM, IT'S NOT TOO BIG OF ICE.
WHERE, TO ME, I THINK IT'S FINE THE WAY IT IS, BUT THAT'S JUST ME PERSONALLY.
WOULD YOU MIND IF I SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH.
SO, UH, UH, LET ME, LET ME GO BACK.
SO, SO I REALLY, I LOOKED, I TRIED TO FIND A WAY TO GIVE A GOOD VISUAL FOR WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS.
AND IT WAS BASED ON THE TIME CRUNCH.
IT WAS PRETTY TOUGH, BUT, UM, SHORT OF BEING A CREEPER AND GOING INTO THE NEIGHBOR'S YARDS.
WHAT I, WHAT I DID FIND IS THAT THERE, THERE JUST A LOT OF TREES OUT THERE EXISTING, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT WITHIN THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY ITSELF, BUT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO IMAGINE IF SOMEONE WAS STANDING AT THE PROPERTY LINE AND LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT ONE, THEY COULDN'T SAY ANYTHING, CAUSE THEY'D BE STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO A MASONRY WALL.
BUT AS YOU MOVE FURTHER BACK THERE, THERE'S A HUGE GROVE OF TREES ALMOST COMPLETELY SURROUNDING THE SITE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE BEST THAT I COULD DO IS THIS GOOGLE EARTH VIEW, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS ALMOST LIKE A DRONE AND IT'S PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR LOTS BACK.
AND I TRIED TO IMAGINE, OKAY, IF SOMEONE IS STANDING ON THEIR PROPERTY AND LOOKING TOWARDS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE? AND, AND THIS WAS KIND OF THE BEST THAT I COULD DO.
AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOOGLE ARTS, SO IT'S A LITTLE BLURRY, BUT IT REALLY DOES SHOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF NATURAL VEGETATION.
THAT'S ALREADY THERE TO HELP BUFFER THAT SPACE.
WELL, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AS COMMISSIONER MAY HAVE POINTED OUT, IT'S GOING TO BE NO HIGHER THAN A TWO STORY HOUSE.
AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE A TWO STORY HOUSE TOWERS OVER ME WHEN I DRIVE BY IT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE SMALLER THAN, UM, SEVERAL OF THE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS THAT ARE ALONG BAGHDAD AS WELL.
AND IF I, IF I MIGHT ADD ONE MORE, UM, THING THAT MIGHT MAKE YOU FEEL A LITTLE BIT SAFER ABOUT IT IS, UH, THE DEVELOPER HAS, UM, DEDICATED TO NOT PUT ANY, ANY GLASS OR WINDOWS ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY OR WESTERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FEELS A LITTLE BIT SAFER THAT, YOU KNOW, NO ONE'S PEEPING AT THEM.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE ALL ON-SITE PARKING OF TRAILERS AND RDS.
SIR, ALL THE VEHICLE PARKING WILL GO AWAY BECAUSE, AND EMPTIED, EXCUSE ME, GUARANTEED.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PARK THEM ALONG BAGHDAD THERE ALONG THE BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO ALL, ALL OF THE, THE BOAT STORAGE, ALL THE TRAILER STORAGE, ALL OF THAT WILL BE REMOVED.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN DAY ONE.
WE STILL HAVE TO GET THROUGH THE SITE PLAN, PERMITTING PROCESS.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE WILL HAVE PARKING ON SITE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LOADING IN AND LOADING
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OUT ALL OF THEIR STORAGE.BUT, UH, THE VEHICULAR PARKING THAT YOU SEE THERE THAT TAKES UP THE MAJORITY OF SITE KIBOSH.
I UNDERSTAND THE ANNEXATION PART.
IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S BEEN THE STORAGE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
SO I SAW HIM IN THE NINE YEARS, BUT I W WHAT'S YOUR HOURS OPERATIONS RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO I KNOW THAT WE, WE COMPLY WITH THE LC, RIGHT? YOU GUYS, I THINK WE'D BE, I THINK WE'D BE SIX TO NOT 6:00 AM TO 9:00 PM.
SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, SIX, 6:00 AM TO 10:00 PM, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
I, I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT AT A MINIMUM MINIMUM, I KNOW THAT WE'D COMPLY WITH THAT, LLC.
THANK YOU FOR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MAY A SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AND, UH, WITH THAT IT IS EIGHT 16, AND I WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING.