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GOOD EVENING AND[1. Call to Order.]
WELCOME TO THE JUNE 9TH, REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF ATLANTA PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.[2. Roll Call.]
THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR VICE CHAIRMAN BRINGS US TO, I[3. Director’s report to the Planning & Zoning Commission on actions taken by the City Council at the June 2, 2022, meeting.]
REMEMBER THREE, WHICH IS DIRECTOR'S REPORT MRS. GRIFFIN.I'M REPORTING ON ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE JUNE 2ND MEETING ON ITEMS THAT WERE FORWARDED FROM THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, THEY COMPLETED THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE FOR THE, UM, 50 HIGH GABRIEL EAST SONIN CASE AND APPROVED IT AS WELL AS THE CASE ON, ON HERO WAY THAT WAS GOING TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL.
THEY ALSO APPROVED THAT ONE AND 8 0 5 SOUTH BAGHDAD, MINOR PUD.
UM, AND THEY CONDUCTED THE FIRST, UH, PUBLIC HEARING FOR OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE NIGHT PUD.
UM, THEY DID APPROVE THE REQUEST AND THEY DID REMOVE THE RECOMMENDATION TO LIMIT THE USES AS WELL AS, UM, NOT ALLOW THE WAIVER TO THE GARAGE STANDARDS.
YOU MEAN DAN ALLOWED THE WAIVER FRUIT, THE GARAGE.
[4. Review of meeting protocol.]
MEETING PROTOCOL.IF YOU REFER TO THE WALL, THE MONITOR ON THE WALL, IT WILL SHOW YOU HOW WE GO ABOUT CONDUCTING OUR MEETINGS.
AND FIVE IS CITIZENS COMMENTS.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I WILL ALLOW ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
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AGENDA ITEMS, 6, 7, 8, 9, AND 10 OPTION TO APPROVE.I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER.
MAY I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON ALL IN FAVOR? OH, IT WAS CARPET, SORRY.
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY BASICALLY THAT SAYS COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
I DON'T WANT HER MAD AT ME, MOVES ONTO KNOW 11
[11. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 22-Z-012 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to adopt the 500 Heritage Grove Road PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning district of HC-4-D (Heavy Commercial) on two parcels of land approximately 44.385 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R031642 and R031640; and commonly known as 500 Heritage Grove Road, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 22-Z-012 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]
CONDUCT, A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 22 DASH Z DEROS 0 1 2 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR, ONE BEE STING OF FAMILY, RURAL TO ADOPT THE 500 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF HC FOUR D HEAVY COMMERCIAL ON TWO PARCELS PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 44.385 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE.MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT AS PARCELS ARE 0 3 1 6 4 2 AND R 0 3 1 6 4 0 AND COMMONLY KNOWN AS 500 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD, LEANDRA, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP OR TONIGHT IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION CONCURRENTLY WITH HIS, UH, ZONING REQUEST, UH TONIGHT'S TO CHANGE THE ASSIGNED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY AS HEAVY COMMERCIAL.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO PROHIBITED SEVERAL USES AS THIS IS A PUD AND WE'LL COVER THOSE IN MORE DETAIL, UH, IN, IN A FEW MINUTES.
SO IT WAS SOME SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS, UH, AS STATED THIS PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO, UH, AN ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
ANNEXATION OF THE PROPERTY IS REQUIRED WHEN THE PROPERTY DEVELOPS AND IS ASSIGNED TO BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF INTERIM S F R ONE B THE ANNEXATION REQUEST 22 8 0 0 4 WILL BE REVIEWED CONCURRENTLY WITH THESE ZONING REQUEST.
UH, SO TO SET THE STAGE FOR THE, UH, THE ZONING REQUEST TO THE NORTH IS ETJ ZONING.
THEY ARE UNDEVELOPED AND LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST IS H C FOUR C AND H I FIVE D.
UM, THAT IS UNDEVELOPED AT THE MOMENT AND WILL BE A FUTURE INDUSTRIAL USE TO THE SOUTH, UH, ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, HERITAGE GROVE IS A PUD WITH A SINGLE FAMILY.
RESIDENTIAL, UM, TO THE WEST IS ALSO SINGLE FAMILY, UH, COMPACT, UH, SFC TO BE.
UM, SO THE SUBJECT TRACK IS PRIMARILY BOUND BY RESIDENTIAL WITH, UH, PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH BEING LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THE ETJ TO THE EAST IS AN UNDEVELOPED FUTURE INDUSTRIAL PROJECT, WHICH WE HAVE SITE PLANS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW TO THE SOUTH ACROSS HERITAGE GROVE ROAD IS THE RESERVE AT NORTH FORK SUBDIVISION AND TO THE WEST IS HAVEN OAKS SUBDIVISION THE PROPERTY WELL, REAL QUICK CHANGE TO AN
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ARIEL.THE PROPERTY DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY FLOOD PLAIN, UH, IN IS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEAD THERE'S HEAVY TREE COVER TO THE NORTH OF THE TRACT AND WILL BE ADDRESSED DURING THE SITE DEVELOPMENT, UH, PROCESS.
THIS PROJECT, UH, WAS KEPT IN THE ETJ WITH A FUTURE ANNEXATION REQUEST AND ZONING ASSIGNMENT AT TIME OF DEVELOPMENT PER THE EXECUTED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UH, NOT TOO LONG AGO, YOU SAW TWO, UH, ZONING CASES IN JANUARY 14TH, 2021.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING ON ZONING CASE NUMBER 20 DASH C DASH.
YOU WERE AT THREE FIVE, WHICH REQUESTED A ZONING CHANGE FROM INTERIM SFR, ONE B UH, TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL HC FIVE D THE APPLICANT WITHDREW THE REQUEST, UH, IN JANUARY 21ST, UH, I BELIEVE AT CITY COUNCIL, UM, JULY 22ND, UH, 2021, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HEARD AN ADDITIONAL REZONING REQUEST ON THIS PROPERTY, UH, AND CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING ON ZONING CASE NUMBER 21 DASH THE DESK 0 2 1.
AND IT ALSO CONTAINED THE CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT 21 DASH CPA DASH ZERO THREE, WHICH REQUESTED TO DEVELOP THE SITE AS A SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED RESIDENTIAL.
IT WAS A MIXTURE OF SFC TO A SINGLE FAMILY, COMPACT AND SFU TWO, A THE REQUEST WAS DENIED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN AUGUST OF 2021.
THIS PROPERTY HAS ACCESS ONTO HERITAGE GROVE, WHICH IS A COLLECTOR ROAD PER OUR, UH, THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
UH, THIS PROPERTY INCLUDES POTENTIAL RIGHT AWAY, DEDICATION ALONG HERITAGE GROVE ROAD.
IN ADDITION TO THE CONTINUATION OF AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK, UH, EASTWARD AT THE TIME OF CONCEPT PLAN SUBMIT ALL THE APPLICANT WILL SUBMIT EITHER A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OR A FEE IN LIEU OF THE TA AS DETERMINED BY THE CITY ENGINEER.
THE PROC PITY HAS ACCESS TO BOTH SEWER AND WATER UTILITIES WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY OF HERITAGE GROVE ROAD IS PROPERLY, IS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL AS STATED EARLIER, UH, THE DEVELOPER HAS HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH BOTH PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF TO DISCUSS THE PRESENTED PROJECT TONIGHT.
SO NOTIFICATIONS IN MAY, UH, 19TH PUBLIC NOTICE, UH, TO THE HILL COUNTRY NEWS WAS POSTED, UM, MAY 25TH.
THE MAILING NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET WERE SENT OUT AND PUBLIC HEARING SIGNAGE WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY TO ADVERTISE ONE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING MEETINGS TONIGHT AND FOR CITY COUNCIL, UH, TONIGHT WILL BE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING AND STATED, UM, CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ON THE 7TH OF JULY, UH, THE FIRST, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN THE READING OF THE ORDINANCE.
AND, UH, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE ON JULY 21ST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
IN ADDITION TO THE NOTICES MAILED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT FELL WITHIN 200 FEET, THE AGENT REACHED OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS OF PROPERTY ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY OR ANY PROPERTIES USED AS SINGLE FAMILY WITHIN 500 FEET, UH, PER OUR COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.
ANY HOA, UH, LOCATED IN 500 FEET WERE ALSO CONTACTED.
SO IN YOUR PACKET YOU HAD AS ATTACHMENT NINE, THERE ARE FOUR REPORT FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH.
UH, MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS WERE HELD, UH, BY THE APPLICANT AS OUTLINED IN ATTACHMENT NINE.
UH, THERE WAS OPPOSITION TO COMMERCIAL NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION FROM, UH, THE HAVEN OAKS COMMUNITY.
AND THE FOLLOWING CHANGES WERE MADE TO ISSUE, UH, ADDRESS THE ISSUES.
UH, THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING A 55 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK, UH, ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, THERE WILL BE A RESTRICTION OF SEVERAL USES, UH, PER THEIR PUD AND ACCESS WILL BE PROHIBITED WHERE JUDD ALLEN WAY CURRENTLY DEAD ENDS TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY.
THE ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF EMPLOYMENT CENTER, AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HAS PLACED THE BELOW HIGHER STANDARDS ON THE TRACK TO ADDRESS NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH CONCERNS.
THERE WAS AN ADDITION OF PROHIBITED USES AS OUTLINED IN THE PUD, AND WE CAN COVER THOSE IF YOU WISH.
UH, THEY PUT AN ADDITIONAL SIX FOOT MASONRY SCREEN WALL, UH, WITH A 20 FOOT LANDSCAPING BUFFER IN FRONT, ON THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE FACING THE HAVEN OAKS SUBDIVISION.
SO THAT WILL BE RIGHT HERE RUNNING ALONG MODIFICATION OF THE 50 FOOT, UH, OR IT WILL BE 55 FOOT, UH, BUILDING SETBACK PROVIDED ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, UH, PER COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THIS NORMALLY WOULD BE 50 FEET.
SO THEY'RE GIVING AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FOOT THEY'RE PROPOSING A WAZER WAIVER TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE TO NOT EXTEND JUDD ALLEN WAY INTO THE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE.
THE DEVELOPER IS ALSO PROPOSING, UH, BARRICADES, UH, WITH REFLECTIVE MATERIAL TO BE INSTALLED WHERE JUDD ALLEN
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WADE DEADENS THE DEVELOPMENT IS REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING WAIVER PER COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.THERE WOULD BE NO PARKING AL CONNECTION TO THE EASTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARIES SINCE THE ADJACENT USE WILL BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE INDUSTRIALS.
SO THAT WILL BE OVER ON THIS SIDE.
UH, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT PER THE REQUESTED TYPE FOR SITE COMPONENT, UM, OUTDOOR STORAGE AND CONTAINER STORAGE ARE PERMITTED AS ACCESSORY USES WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, SUCH STORAGE DOES NOT EXCEED 60% OF THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF THE PRIMARY BUILDING THAT HOUSES THE BUSINESS, UH, STORING SUCH MATERIALS, SUCH STORAGE OR CONTAINER IS LOCATED NO CLOSER TO THE STREET FRONTAGE THAN THE PRIMARY BUILDING THAT HOUSES THE BUSINESS STORING SUCH MATERIALS, SUCH STORAGE OR CONTAINER IS SCREENED FROM VIEW FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES IN ANY STREET IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS OF OUR COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, THE STORAGE OR CONTAINER IS NOT PERMITTED WITHIN THE REQUIRED SETBACKS.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.
WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT HAS A SHORT PRESENTATION AS WELL.
WE'LL HAVE THE AFRICAN PRESENTATION.
MY NAME IS JOEL'S K NEMA LAND DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANT WITH ARM AND BROWN.
I'M WORKING WITH IT POTENTIAL DEVELOPER OF THE PROPERTY AT 500 HERITAGE GROVE.
UH, THEY'VE CURRENTLY GOT THE PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT, AND THEY'D LIKE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITH A COMMERCIAL USE.
SO WITH ME TONIGHT IS ERIC FRY TAG AND JOHN GO SALLY WHO'S WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM IN CASE THERE'S QUESTIONS THAT COME UP, UM, AS WAS JUST EXPLAINED.
I'LL TRY NOT TO BE TOO REPETITIVE, BUT I THINK I'M GOING TO ELABORATE ON A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WAS EXPLAINED AND KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
UM, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY IN THE, AND IT'S ALSO WITHIN THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER DESIGNATION ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
UH, WE'RE REQUESTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO DO A CLASS, A BUSINESS PARK, WHICH IS PERMITTED UNDER THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER, FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION.
UM, SO I'M SURE SOME OF YOU ARE PRETTY THRILLED TO SEE THIS ONE BACK ON YOUR AGENDA, GIVEN THE LAST FEW ZONING CASES THAT HAVE COME IN.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE HISTORY REAL QUICK.
SO I'M GONNA GO BACK ABOUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS, UH, IN 2015, THE CITY FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATED THIS PROPERTY, AS WELL AS THE HAVEN OAKS PROPERTY AS INDUSTRIAL, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN DARK PURPLE HERE ON THE MAP IN MARCH OF 2016, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PROPERTY WE'RE REQUESTING ZONING ON, AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, IT REQUIRES THE PROPERTY TO BE ANNEXED AND ZONED IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE REDEVELOPED WITH ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
BASICALLY IN, UH, 2018, THERE WAS A CONTROVERSIAL ZONING CASE THAT WENT IN ON THE HAVEN OAKS PROPERTY FOR A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT DUE TO THE FACT THAT THAT PROPERTY WAS A BUDDING, THE SAVANNAH OAKS RESONANT, UM, THAT ZONING WAS NEVER APPROVED.
UM, AND THEN THE CITY, I BELIEVE SUBSEQUENTLY INITIATED A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP ON THAT PROPERTY.
UM, IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER OF THAT SAME YEAR PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO MIXED USE AS SHOWN ON THE MAP AND ON THE LEFT, HOWEVER, COUNCIL ENDED UP APPROVING A NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL ON THE HAVEN OAKS PROPERTY AND LEFT INDUSTRIAL ON THIS PROPERTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP TO THE RIGHT.
SO IN NOVEMBER OF THAT SAME YEAR, THE HAVEN OAKS PROPERTY REZONED TO ALLOW FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT EXISTS TODAY IN 2020 AUSTIN WOOD RECYCLING SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION ON THIS PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST 2 0 4 HERITAGE GROVE.
THAT'S ACTUALLY AN APPLICATION THAT I HELPED WITH.
UM, THE REQUEST WAS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO PUG WITH THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, UM, AND ENDED UP GETTING POSTPONED AT PLANNING AND COMMISSION PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, BUT THE APPLICANT ENDED UP WITHDRAWING DUE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION.
AND THEN ON APRIL 1ST, 2021, THE CITY ADOPTED THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UM, EXCUSE ME, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND, UH, DESIGNATED THE PROPERTY AND THE LAND USE MAP FROM INDUSTRIAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL TO EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE IN PURPLE IN 2021, THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER TRIED TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY TO A SINGLE FAMILY USE.
I THINK THERE'S SFC AND SFU TWO A, UH, WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE FROM EMPLOYMENT CENTER TO NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL.
THEY RECEIVED APPROVAL AT PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT ONCE THEY GOT TO COUNCIL, THEY WERE DENIED UNANIMOUSLY.
AND IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS DENIED BASED ON THE FACT THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE, UM, A COMMERCIAL USE.
THAT'S MORE IN LINE WITH THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER DESIGNATION.
SO BASED ON THAT, THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING AND, UM, THAT, THAT SINGLE FAMILY WON'T GET APPROVED ON THIS PROPERTY.
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THE CURRENT ZONING REQUESTS THAT WE'RE HERE FOR YOU GUYS TONIGHT, UM, WHICH IS TO ANNEX AND ZONE THE PROPERTY HAD PUD WITH HEAVY COMMERCIAL, WITH THE TYPE FOUR TYPE D THE PROPOSED PROJECT CAN BE DEVELOPED UNDER HEAVY COMMERCIAL SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.BUT THE REASON WE'RE ASKING FOR A POD IS TO ADD ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS AND ON THE PROPERTY, SO THAT IT'S, UM, FOR THIS PROJECT AND ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS, MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, DOING A POD, GIVES US THE ABILITY TO MODIFY THE SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, TO MAKE US OFFER A TRANSITION FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
SO THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION.
THE DEVELOPER ISN'T ASKING FOR ANY DEVIATIONS TO CODE, OTHER THAN THE TWO ITEMS THAT WERE JUST MENTIONED TO YOU, UM, CODE DOES REQUIRE THAT JED ALLEN WAY CUTS THROUGH THE PROPERTY, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING FOR A DEVIATION OF THAT CODE REQUIREMENT TO CUT IT OFF.
THAT'S A SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENT.
I BELIEVE ALSO THERE'S A ZONING REQUIREMENT THAT SAYS THIS PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST HAVE TO SHARE DRIVE AISLE.
WE'RE ASKING FOR A DEVIATION OF THAT.
WE DON'T WANT TO CONNECT WITH THAT PROPERTY.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE TWO PROJECTS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UM, THIS PROJECT CAN COMPLY WITH ALL, UM, HEAVY COMMERCIAL REGULATIONS AND EVEN MORE.
SO THERE ARE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR COMMERCIAL PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN A CERTAIN PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL USE.
WE CAN COMPLY WITH ALL THOSE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, BUT WITH THE PUB, WE'RE ALSO LIKE WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE DOING ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS OF AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FOOT SETBACKS.
SO 55 FOOT BUILDING SET BACK WITH A SIX FOOT TALL MASONRY WALL, ALL ALONG THE RESTROOM PROPERTY LINE AND A 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER IN FRONT OF THAT WALL.
UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL PROHIBITED USES.
WE'RE SUGGESTING SUCH AS BAR COMMERCIAL LAUNDRY VEHICLE SELLS PAWN SHOP, AND SEVERAL OTHER USES OUTDOOR STORAGE, UM, UNDER TYPE FOUR IS LIMITED.
UM, SO DUE TO THE ZONING HISTORY ON THIS SITE, THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T WANT TO MOVE MUCH MORE FORWARD IN THE PLANNING SINCE THE ZONING HAS BEEN SO CONTROVERSIAL.
SO THEY WANT TO KNOW AND GET THE ZONING BEFORE THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT STAGE OF PLANNING.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING HERE IS LIMITED INFORMATION, BUT THAT'S THE REASON WHY, UM, THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY WITH THE ZONING TO ALLOW FOR A QUALITY COMPANY WITH GOOD JOB OFFERS TO OPERATE AT THIS SITE.
THE DEVELOPER OF THIS PROPERTY WILL MAKE EVERY ATTEMPT POSSIBLE TO, TO DESIGN THE PROJECT IN A WAY THAT'S MOST COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT RESIDENTS IN ADDITION TO FOLLOWING ALL THE CODE REGULATIONS.
AND THEN I'LL JUST CLOSE BY SUMMARIZING ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH THAT WAS MADE, UM, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP AND WAS GREAT WAY TO SUMMARIZE.
UM, WE MAILED LETTERS TO THE FOLKS OUTSIDE HAVEN OAKS WHO LIVE NORTH AND NORTHWEST OF THE PROPERTY TO SHARE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
WE ALSO HOSTED A ZOOM MEETING WITH THE HAVEN OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD HAD A PRETTY GOOD TURNOUT.
THERE WAS CERTAINLY A LOT OF OPPOSITION TO A COMMERCIAL PROJECT BEING DEVELOPED ON THIS PROPERTY.
I ALSO RECENTLY HAD A SEPARATE ZOOM MEETING WITH A FEW OTHER HAVEN OAKS RESIDENTS WHO AREN'T NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO, BUT THEY WANT TO SEE, UM, ADDITIONAL EFFORTS MADE FROM A SCREENING STANDPOINT AND HAVE UNDERSTANDABLE CONCERNS REGARDING VIEWS, TRUCKS, NOISES, AND LIGHT POLLUTION.
AND SO THE DEVELOPER IS TAKING THOSE CONCERNS INTO CONSIDERATION AND WE'LL WORK WITH, UM, WITH IT TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND I DO HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
SO WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU WILL COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND YOU WILL ANNOUNCE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UM, IF I GET YOUR NAMES WRONG, PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
I'M NOT DOING IT INTENTIONALLY.
UM, THE FIRST PERSON HAS TO SPEAK IS ANTHONY GONZALEZ, ANTHONY GONZALES.
HE CAN BRING YOU, BRING YOU UP TO ANTHONY GONZALEZ, 3,800 GOODNIGHT TRAIL.
UM, I JUST WANTED THE COMMISSION TO, UH, SHED LIGHT TO HOW WE CAME HERE TODAY.
UH, I WAS DOING HIS OWN CASE FOR OLD TOWN, UH, THAT RAN CONCURRENT TO THE PREVIOUS ZONING CASE OF THIS APPLICATION.
UM, YOU WERE THERE WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING AND THEN WITH CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.
AND AFTER HEARING THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS AND THE CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY VOTING IT DOWN, UM, WE GOT WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNER AND MADE INTRODUCTIONS TO THE DEVELOPER, UM, BECAUSE IT BECAME APPARENT THAT THAT'S WHAT THE CITY WANTED.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE THE CITY WHAT THEY WANT.
UM, I'M A REAL ESTATE BROKER BY TRADE.
I DO A LOT OF TENANT REPRESENTATION.
THERE IS NOTHING IN LEANDER LIKE THIS PROJECT FOR TENANTS.
UM, I REPRESENT A LOT OF BIG BOX TENANTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS PARKS, AND WE'D HAVE TO GO OUT TO GEORGETOWN OR, UH, OR, UH, BUDA KYLE THINGS LIKE THAT ROUND ROCK.
THERE WAS NOTHING HERE IN LEANDER AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE CURRENT LAND USE PLANS.
YES, THERE'S THAT PROJECT ON 180 3 A, BUT THERE REALLY IS NOTHING PLANNED.
UM, A LOT OF THE LAND'S BEEN GRABBED UP AND, UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE FUSE.
THERE ARE A FEW AREAS THAT YOU CAN BUILD A BUSINESS PARK.
SO THEY'LL BRING A LOT OF JOBS TO THE AREA FOR THESE BIG BOX TENANTS.
UM, THAT'LL BRING A LOT OF JOBS
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TO THE AREA.UM, THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANTED TO SPEAK IN FOR IT.
CARLOS, IS THERE ANY STREET YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
ONCE YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, KENNETH CARLOS, 7 37 HAIR JUST GROW GROWTH.
I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, UH, WE'RE AGAINST MY WIFE AND I ARE AGAINST THIS BECAUSE OF THE FACT OF THE TRAFFIC.
NUMBER ONE, UH, WE HAVE A HARD TIME EVEN BACKING OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY AT THIS PRESENT TIME.
IT GOES, THERE ARE BIG, BIG TRUCKS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THERE AS I'LL READ IT.
THE TRAFFIC IS JUST TOTAL AND FOR ANYTHING ELSE TO COME IN, IT JUST, UH, MAKE THINGS WORSE FOR US LIVING THERE AS FAR AS NOISE AND, AND, UH, KIDS IN, IN THE AREA OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'D LIKE TO HOPE THIS THING SHOOTS DOWN.
NEXT I HAVE RICK FROM KUMAR STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, WE CRUMB KUMAR 7 3 3 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD.
UH, I AM ME AND MY FAMILY WERE AGAINST THIS REZONING.
UH, I'M SURE THAT, UH, WHEN THE INITIAL ZONING WAS MADE IN 2015 ONWARDS WAS MADE BASED ON THE DATA AT THAT POINT OF TIME.
BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH, LEANDRA IS CHANGING AND ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA, THERE'S A LOT OF FAMILY AND NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WE WOULD WANT TO KEEP THAT SAFE AND A GOOD COMMUNITY GOING FORWARD.
UH, NO, IT'S ONLY A ONE IN INGRESS AND EGRESS ROAD, WHICH IS HERITAGE GROW.
AND THAT IS NOT CONDUCIVE FOR THE FAMILY THAT ARE LIVING THERE.
THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF, UH, THREE PARKS WITHIN LIKE 300 YARDS OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S A LOT OF KIDS AND ALSO AGED PARENTS WHO ARE LIVING THERE AND WALKING AROUND.
SO I I'M, THAT'S WHY I SAY THAT THIS IS NOT A GOOD, UH, UH, PROPOSAL FOR THIS, UH, AREA.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M AGAINST THIS.
MY NAME IS ADRIAN SHARP AND I LIVE AT 2 0 4 AMANDA'S WAY.
I'M SPEAKING AGAINST THIS STONING REQUEST.
HEAVY CONVERT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES DIRECT ACCESS TO A MAJOR ROADWAY.
THERE IS NO GOOD DIRECT ACCESS TO US.
180 3 OR TO SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY FROM 500 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD TURNING OFF 180 3 ONTO HERITAGE GROVE ROAD IS VERY DANGEROUS FOR ANYONE WHO HAS TRIED IT.
TRAFFIC TRYING TO REACH 180 3 VIA SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY.
WE'LL BE DRIVING PAST THREE SINGLE COMPACT FAMILY HOME DEVELOPMENTS WITH CHILDREN'S PETS, FAMILIES, AND YARDS, AND ON SIDEWALKS.
LET ALONE A NOISE AND POLLUTION PROBLEM.
HEAVY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT LOCATED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IS NOT BENEFICIAL OR DESIRABLE TO OUR ENVIRONMENT, OUR PROPERTY VALUES OR OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
NOISE OF DAILY, HEAVY TRUCKS AND MACHINERY.
THE HIGH PITCH SOUND OF TRUCKS BACKING UP INCREASED EXHAUST FUMES AND POSSIBLE FACTORY POLLUTION ARE NOT WHAT WE EXPECT OR WANT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE BELIEVE THE CITY WOULD WANT TO PROVIDE US WITH A DIFFERENT ELEMENT THAT WOULD DIRECTLY BENEFIT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
PRESENTLY LIVING IN THE AREA, SUCH AS RETAIL, PERSONAL SERVICES OR OFFICE USES SOMETHING THAT WOULD CATER TO THE EVERYDAY NEEDS OF THE NEARBY RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE WANT TO KEEP OUR SENSE OF COMMUNITY.
WE WANT CONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY TRANSITIONING FROM RURAL SINGLE FAMILY TO COMPACT SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS.
THE ONLY CURRENT NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDING IN OUR AREA IS THE GOAL DEPOSITORY, WHICH IS QUIET AND UNOBTRUSIVE.
I HEAR THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF A PLAN TO CLOSE OFF 180 3 AND IT'S STAN ROAD STREET
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TO HERITAGE GROVE ROAD.BUT 500 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD IS NOT A SUITABLE LOCATION.
YOU CAN'T CHANGE ITS AWFUL LOCATION AND MAKE HERITAGE GROVE ROAD A SAFE, DIRECT ACCESS TO ANY MAJOR ROADWAY.
PLEASE DO NOT CONSIDER THIS APPLICATION.
IT'S NOT CONDUCIVE TO SINGLE FAMILY, COMPACT LIVING AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
NO BUFFER PLANS FOR THE RESERVE AT NORTH POINT OR US RESIDENTS AT WILDLY CREEK ESTATES.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.
UM, FINALLY THEN NORINA MISSOURI.
I FIGURED MORE PEOPLE I'M GOING TO GO UP, BUT I KNOW THAT I HAVE ADDITIONAL, I HAVE, I HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE TO FILL OUT A CARD WHO, UM, PLEASE COME OH, GREAT.
SO YOU WILL, UH, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
JUST LIKE DEBATE IN HIGH SCHOOL.
I LIVE AT 7 1 6 MADELINE COURT, AND I'M PART OF THE NEW HAVEN OAKS COMMUNITY.
AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST A ZONING REQUEST FOR THREE REASONS, TWO REASONS PRIMARILY, AND THEY'RE LOGISTICS BASED.
SO MY FIRST, MY FIRST CONTENTION IS THAT JOE ALLEN ROAD IS NOT MADE FOR THIS TYPE OF ROAD ACCESS CHANGE.
AND THEN SECONDLY, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HERITAGE GROVE ROAD AS WELL.
UM, AND PAINT A PICTURE FOR YOU BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS MY FIRST PUBLIC HEARING AND THIS IS ALL VERY CONFUSING IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE ZONING TERMS AND THE CODES AND ALL OF THAT.
SO I DO WANT YOU TO HAVE A PICTURE ON MINE.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS, UM, THIS APPLICATION.
SO, UM, JUST AS AN INTRO, I AM A FIRST-TIME HOMEOWNER IN TEXAS.
WE JUST BOUGHT A WHILE AGO AND WE LIVE IN A WONDERFUL COL-DE-SAC.
AND ONE OF MY FELLOW MOM'S FRIENDS IS HERE WITH ME AND OUR KIDS ACTUALLY PLAY RIDE BY THIS SHUT ALLEN ROAD, EVERY SINGLE DAY, BIKES, UM, SKATEBOARDS, HOPEFULLY ONE DAY MY SON IS ALMOST THREE, SO NOT THERE YET.
UM, BUT JUDD ALLEN ROAD IS THIS TYPE OF ROAD WHERE THERE'S KIDS PLAYING.
THIS IS A VERY NARROW ROAD ABOUT NOT MORE THAN 10 FEET WIDE.
SO THE ACCESS THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO CHANGE IS JUST NOT FEASIBLE.
UM, AND AS A FIRST TIME HOMEOWNER IN TEXAS, UM, WE MOVED HERE THREE YEARS AGO AND I AM SO THRILLED TO SEE THAT LEANDRA IS BECOMING ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING CITIES IN THE U S HOWEVER, THAT GROWTH IS WONDERFUL, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT HAS TO INFRINGE ON THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE LIVING HERE.
THIS PROPOSITION AND CONCEPT PLAN IS WONDERFUL.
I AM ALL FOR BUSINESSES GROWING FAMILY BUSINESSES COMING, BUT NOT HERE.
THIS PLAN DOES NOT MAKE SENSE HERE.
HERITAGE GROVE ROAD IS A LONG ROAD, RIGHT BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE.
AND THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A PROPERTY THAT I ACTUALLY WANTED TO BOARD MY HORSE BE NOT BEFORE WE MOVED IN, BECAUSE IT BELONGED TO A WONDERFUL FAMILY WHO HAD THREE HORSES ON THIS RANCH AND THEY NO LONGER LIVE THERE.
SO WHEN YOU IMAGINE THIS ROAD, I WANT YOU TO THINK OF A NARROW ROAD, NO LANES.
THERE'S FOUR SCHOOL BUSES THAT I PAUSED BY EVERY SINGLE MORNING WHEN I TAKE MY SON TO CHILDCARE IN THE MORNING AT DAYCARE.
SO SEVEN 30 YOU'RE ON THIS ROAD FOR SCHOOL BUSES PASS BY.
AND THE OTHER DAY THERE WAS ACTUALLY A TRAFFIC JAM BECAUSE A FAMILY OF THREE ARMADILLOS WERE CROSSING THE ROAD AND EVERYONE STOPPED.
AND THE SCHOOL BUSES STOPPED AND WE STOPPED.
AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD THIS IS.
AND IF YOU ALLOW THIS TO BE CHANGED, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOSING SOMETHING VERY VALUABLE.
THE TRUE RESIDENTS THAT COME HERE THAT DO SUPPORT THESE BUSINESSES.
WE JUST DON'T WANT THEM IN OUR BACKYARD.
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IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.UH, ALAN BELL TESA 2004 ALEXANDER OAKS.
UM, I WANTED TO START OFF BY SAYING THAT I I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF, UH, AMBERSON BROWN.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN VERY COMMUNICATIVE WITH THE H UH, HAVEN OAKS HOA AND THE HAVEN OAKS RESIDENTS.
HOWEVER, I INITIALLY PUT MY POSTURE AS IN SUPPORT, BUT AFTER FURTHER THOUGHT I CAN NOT SUPPORT, UH, AS THERE ARE MANY UNKNOWNS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WHILE I DO SUPPORT AND WELCOME A NEW BUSINESS TO THE CITY OF LEANDER.
UH, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING GUIDELINES FOR, UM, THIS PROPERTY.
I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT HERE.
UH, UM, YEAH, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING GUIDELINES FOR THIS PROPERTY AND BECAUSE WE ARE A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, PART OF THE CITY OF LEANDER PLANNING DOCUMENTS, THIS PROPERTY NEEDS TO BE A REASONABLE TRANSITION SOWN.
UH, SOME OF MY CONCERNS HERE ARE THAT OBREE BRINGING MAJOR TRAFFIC AS MENTIONED BY OTHER NEIGHBORS, ESPECIALLY WITH HERITAGE GROWTH, NOT BEING FULLY BUILT OUT ROAD, UM, AS WELL AS IT WOULD DISTURB THE PEACE OF NEIGHBORS, NEIGHBORS, UH, NEIGHBORS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WELL AS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARK.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IS LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT TO, UM, 500 HERITAGE GROWTH, UH, IN WHICH, UH, YOU KNOW, AS YOU LISTEN HERE JUST A COUPLE SECONDS AGO, UH, MANY OF OUR CHILDREN DO PLAY THERE DAILY.
UM, AND WOULD YOU KNOW THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS STRUGGLED IN, UM, IN THE PAST WITH ZONING ISSUES AND WE WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT TRANSITIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, TRANSITIONED APPROPRIATELY, UH, AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL, WHICH BORDERS, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY ON THREE OF THE FOUR SIDES, UM, SPECIFICALLY WE ASK AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL SUPPORT ZONING AT GENERAL COMMERCIAL OR MORE RESTRICTIVE AND VOICE STRONG OPPOSITION TO ANY LESS RESTRICTIVE ZONING, UH, INCLUDING HEAVY COMMERCIAL AS REQUESTED IN THIS HEARING.
I ALSO, I'M ALSO ASKING THAT THE, UM, MINING ZONING COMMISSION CONSIDER, UH, HAVING NO THROUGH AXES ON JOHN ALLEN WAY, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE CASE BY THE DEVELOPER.
UM, AND I DO ALSO, UM, WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT I THINK IT IS VERY REASONABLE TO HAVE AN ASK FOR AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, UH, THAT WOULD, UH, ENSURE PRIVACY FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE HAVE 17 NEIGHBORS, UH, ON THAT SIDE THAT THEIR YARDS DO FACE THE WRECKLY, UM, TO THAT END.
UH, AND, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I LIKE TO SEE, UH, MORE HEAVY LANDSCAPING BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES, UH, WHICH WOULD HELP WITH NOISE REDUCTION, AGAIN, PROVIDING MORE PRIVACY TO OUR NEIGHBORS, UH, ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET.
UH, AND AGAIN, I JUST ASKED THAT WE HAVE A REASONABLE TRANSITION ZONE, WHICH IS NOT OUT OF THE ORDINARY, GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE LOT AND NOISE AND TRAFFIC THAT THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL BRING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU, SCOTT FELTON, MR. FELTON, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I AM AT 2021 ALEXANDER OAKS DRIVE IN HAVEN OAKS, A NEIGHBOR OF ALLEN.
UH, BEFORE I GO INTO WHAT I WANT TO SAY, I WANT TO JUST EMPHASIZE WHAT ALAN SAID ABOUT APPROPRIATE TRANSITION ZONES.
SPECIFICALLY THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER REGULATIONS SAY IF A PROPERTY IS A BUDDING, A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, HAVE YOU COMMERCIALS GENERALLY NOT APPROPRIATE, UM, AND TO CONSIDER HAVING APPROPRIATE TRANSITION STAYED IN AT COMMERCIAL OR BELOW.
AND RIGHT NOW WITH THE 55 FOOT BUILDING SET BACK, UM, WHICH WE HAD ASKED FOR AT LEAST A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK WHEN WE HAD TALKED TO THEM, UM, THAT'S THE, WHAT THE ONE LOT YOU'VE GOTTEN, AS WE'VE ALL SAID, THE PARKS WE'VE GOT, UM, WHAT DOES THAT 1520 HOUSES? AND WE'VE GOT ACTUALLY A SEPARATE TRAIL AND LOTS OF PEOPLE WALKING AROUND.
AND SO WITH THAT, UM, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT TRANSITIONING BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND THAT WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S THIS NEED TO YOUR LENDERS GROWING.
DO WE WANT TO HAVE BUSINESSES AND JOBS FOR OUR CITY, BUT, UM, ONE LOT ON A NARROW COMPACT CITY IS NOT ENOUGH OF A TRANSITION, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, LARGE TRUCKS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE STORAGE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT BUSINESSES WITHOUT TIME OF NOISE RESTRICTIONS, UH, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK PER CODE AGAIN, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE CONCERNED.
UM, MY POINT THOUGH, IS THIS PROPERTY HAS HAD A LOT OF ISSUES IN THE PAST, RIGHT? UM, I WAS THERE FOR THE, UH, WHEN THE WOODCHIP PLANT WAS COMING UP AS WELL.
UM, AND ONE OF THE ISSUES IS IT'S BEEN CONSISTENTLY NOT THOUGHT THROUGH FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.
AND ONE THING IN THE FUTURE OF OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS COLLECTIVE WAY COLLECTIVE WAY RIGHT NOW IS SET TO GO AND BE EXPANDED IN ABOUT THREE YEARS AS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY NORTH OF HAVEN ELKS CUTTING THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS PLAN AT THE TIME SHOWS IT TO BE A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE SIMILAR TO SAN, UH, SAN GABRIEL, AS WELL AS A COUPLE OTHER PARTS OF BLAKE LINE.
AND AS WE SAY, WE'RE LOOKING FOR COMMERCIAL AT LEAST.
UM, AND THERE'S IN THE FUTURE.
THERE'S GOING TO BE PRIME OPPORTUNITY WITH SO MUCH COLLECTIVE WAYS IS GOING TO BE THE MAIN WAY IN FROM WHEN THE THREE TO OUR HIGH SCHOOL, TO OUR JUNIOR HIGH, TO ALL THESE EXPANDING NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE GOING OUT THERE TO BAGHDAD WAY AND, YOU KNOW, THINKING OF THE FUTURE, WHAT DO WE ACTUALLY WANT PEOPLE TO SEE AS THEY'RE COMING INTO OUR SCHOOLS, NEIGHBORING CITIES, FAMILIES, ET CETERA, AS THEY COME INTO THEIR SCHOOLS, THEIR HOMES AND THEIR AREAS.
IT MAKES SENSE THAT COMMERCIAL CAN BE QUITE A VIABLE PLACE THERE.
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AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE LET'S LOOK TO WHAT THE PROPERTIES SHOULD BE AS WE FINISHED BUILDING OUT THIS AREA, NOT JUST WHAT WE CAN GET NOW.AND SO WE'VE TALKED TO THE DEVELOPERS AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY WAYS TO GET SIMILAR THINGS AT COMMERCIAL LEVELS ZONING, BUT ALSO THINK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE COMING THROUGH IN THE FUTURE.
UM, NOT NECESSARILY A BUDDING THESE PROPERTIES, BUT, UM, THAT'S FOR THE GOOD OF LEANDER AND OUR CITIES, UM, TO SUMMARIZE EVERYTHING WE WANT APPROPRIATE TRANSITIONS BETWEEN OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS AND OUR FAMILIES, AS WELL AS WHAT'S RIGHT FOR LEANDER OVERALL, NOT JUST NOW, BUT IN THE FUTURE AS WE DEVELOP OUT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UH, SO I'M ONE OF THE 17 NEIGHBORS ON, ON THE, UH, PROPERTY THERE ON AVON HOOK SUBDIVISION.
SO MIKE I'M AGAINST THE PROPOSED PLAN AND MY CONCERN IS TRAFFIC TO BE ONE AND THE PRIVACY, BECAUSE I'M RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
THE WHOLE SCENARIO WAS DIFFERENT BECAUSE NOW THE SITUATION COMING BECAUSE OF THE REZONING AND WHATNOT.
SO, UM, I'M JUST STRAIGHTFORWARD AGAINST IT.
I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WISH TO HAVE THEIR POSITION READ INTO THE RECORD, BUT THEY DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
IF I MISPRONOUNCED YOUR NAME, PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
THE FOLLOWING ARE AGAINST OLIVIA HAMMER DE SOUZA.
PRISAAD PILOT PERRETTI, BHARATH PARA MASH, RHEA DORIA.
BENJAMIN FRIEDRICH GANASH CHU VERO.
IS THERE ANY WAY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES, SIR.
IF YOU CALL IT, COME UP AND IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
WELL, MY NAME IS ROBERT LANGER.
THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
THERE'S RESIDENTIAL SURROUNDING THIS PARCEL PARCEL, AND IT SHOULD STAY RESIDENTIAL HEAVY COMMERCIAL IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE USE.
HERITAGE GROVE ROAD IS AFFECTIONATELY CALLED A GOAT TRAIL.
THERE'S BARELY ROOM FOR ONE VEHICLE.
YES, THERE MAY BE PLANS ON EXPANDING IT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE QUITE SOME TIME.
UTILIZING A PUD IS JUST AN END RUN AROUND TRADITIONAL ZONING ONLY BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR MORE RESTRICTIONS, BUT YET THE ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS ARE NOT VERY RESTRICTIVE.
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DETAIL OF WHAT WILL GO IN THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL ONCE IT'S DEVELOPED.
AND THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF DETAIL OF WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE GOING TO PREVENT.
THE PARCEL ALREADY HAD BEEN APPROVED FOR RESIDENTIAL USE.
UNFORTUNATELY, COUNCIL DENIED IT.
YES, IT'S PART OF EMPLOYMENT CENTER, BUT EMPLOYMENT CENTER DOES NOT REQUIRE HEAVY COMMERCIAL.
LET'S NOT ENCROACH ON THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AGAIN, SHOULDN'T BE HEAVY COMMERCIAL.
I HAVE ACREAGE BEHIND THIS TRACT.
MY LAND SHOULD NOT BE UTILIZED AS A BUFFER ZONE TO DEVELOP THIS TRACT OF LAND.
THIS TRACT OF LAND IS NOT IN A FLOOD PLAIN, BUT YET IT FEEDS THE ENTIRE FLOODPLAIN.
SO YOU HAVE A T OR IT POSSIBLY, DEPENDING ON WHAT IS PUT IN, THERE COULD BE A TOXIC WASTE DUMP THAT JUST FLOWS RIGHT INTO THE BACK OF MY LAND.
I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY ANY OF US WOULD WANT THAT.
I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE MUCH CLOSER WOULD WANT THAT.
I ALSO FIND IT VERY DISTRESSING AND DISTURBING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH ONLY FOUND ONE ISSUE OF ALL THE OUTREACH THAT THEY DID.
IF THERE IS ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK, SEEING NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE WILL ENTER INTO DISCUSSION.
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TH THIS AREA IN GENERAL HAS CREATED A LOT OF CONTROVERSY.UM, AND I FEEL FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE NEXT TO THIS, I'M JUST A FEW MILES DOWN THE STREET AND THEY REZONED MY PROPERTY FROM, UH, COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN ALL THE PEOPLE BOUGHT HOUSES THERE AND THEY COMPLAINED BECAUSE THEY PUT COMMERCIAL RIGHT NEXT TO IT WHEN IT WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL, UM, HERITAGE GROVE ROAD IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'VE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT NOT BEING UP TO STANDARD TODAY.
IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO FIX THAT PROBLEM.
UM, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE, UH, THE CUTLERY FACTORY THAT'S GOING IN THERE.
WE HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF THE CAP, METRO, UH, EXCHANGE STATION OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S ON THE FAR END WHERE THERE'S ANOTHER INDUSTRIAL USE IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THIS AND PUTTING IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DOESN'T MAKE SENSE EITHER.
UM, WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM HERE AND IT'S LIKE, HOW DO WE FIX THIS? UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON, UH, DEVELOPING HERE OTHER THAN JUST PARK.
IS IT A 100 FOOT MEGA STORE THAT IS GOING TO HAVE A THOUSAND CARS IN IT EVERY WEEK? UM, OR IS IT A, A BUSINESS PARK WHERE YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF SMALL OFFICES? WE DON'T KNOW.
UH, AND THAT, THAT HAS A BIG CONCERN WITH ME RIGHT THERE BEING RIGHT NEXT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE NEED SOME TRANSITION THERE.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE TO SAY ON THAT.
UH, BUT I, AT THE SAME TIME, I DO UNDERSTAND THE LANDOWNER'S RIGHTS TO DEVELOP THEIR LAND.
AND I FEEL THAT THEY'VE BEEN HELD HOSTAGE HERE.
WE THEY'VE HAD, THIS IS THE FOURTH CASE SINCE I'VE BEEN ON PLANNING AND ZONING, WHERE THEY'VE BEEN DENIED, BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP THEIR LAND.
AND AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN PUT THERE.
AND IDEALLY, I KNOW EVERYBODY SAYS IDEALLY WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE NEXT TO THEIR HOME.
UH, UM, BUT CAN THEY EFFECTIVELY DO THAT THERE? AND SO I, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS WHAT INTENTIONS THEY HAVE, UM, BUILDING THERE'S THAT BIG BOX STORES, IS IT, I, I WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION TO GO ON THAT.
I THINK THE BEST THING WE CAN POINT TO AT THE MOMENT IS IF, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, WE CAN PULL UP GOOGLE MAPS, THAT'D BE GREAT, BUT THERE'S, UM, SCOTTSDALE CROSSING OFF 180 3 IN CEDAR PARK.
THAT'S PROBABLY MOST COMPARABLE TO THE GOAL OF WHAT THEY WANT TO PUT ON THE PROPERTY AND THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT THERE'S RESIDENTS AT BUDDING THE PROJECT AS WELL.
CEDAR PARK OBVIOUSLY HAS DIFFERENT ZONING, BUT, UM, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST EXAMPLE PROJECT.
SORRY, I DON'T HAVE ANY IMAGES.
UM, AND WHAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHTS IN A BUSINESS PARK LIKE THAT? ROBIN? I, I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT ON HERE AND DIDN'T SEE THAT.
SO THE, THE HEIGHT STARTS AT, UM, IS 35 FEET IS THE LIMIT.
AND THEN THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO REQUEST, UM, INCENTIVES.
SO IF THE BUILDING IS 85% MASONRY, THEY CAN MAKE INCREASES TO THE HYPE, BUT IT'S BASED ON SETBACK AS WELL.
SO YOU HAVE TO INCREASE YOUR SETBACK AS WELL AS YOUR MATERIALS.
UM, I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE HERITAGE GROVE ROAD IS BEING SO SMALL RIGHT NOW AND, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M LIKE THE RESIDENTS, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO BUILD IT OUT? AND YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC, HEAVY TRUCKS, NOISE LIGHTS, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS? HOW LONG WILL THAT GO ON TO GET THE PROJECT COMPLETE? AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BUILD THERE? I WANT TO KNOW THAT SO I CAN HANDLE THE HERITAGE GROVE ROAD PORTION
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OF IT.SO THERE'S TWO ROADS ACTUALLY, AND I WISH I HAD IT MAPPED, SORRY, CAMERON GIVEN WITH THIS, UH, ECONOMIC FILM DEPARTMENT, UH, BUT BASICALLY THE HERITAGE GROVE ROADS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PLANS.
SO IT IS PLANNED FOR NEXT YEAR.
UH, THE DESIGNS ARE UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW, AND THIS SHOULD BE DONE BY ABOUT NOVEMBER.
UH, THE GOAL OF THAT WITH HERITAGE GROVE ROAD AND THE NEW ROAD, THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO GO FROM HERITAGE GROVE ROAD, KIND OF DOWN BY THE GOAL DEPOSITORY AND THEN CONNECTING TO 180 3.
WE WANT TO ELIMINATE THAT A 90 DEGREE TURN THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IT IS DANGEROUS FOR TRUCKS TO GO IN THERE AND TURN AND PULL OUT.
SO THERE WILL BE A DECELERATION LANE THAT COMES THROUGH ON 180 3, UH, FOR CARS TO SLOW DOWN AND MAKE THAT TURN.
AND THERE WILL BE THAT, UM, BETTER KIND OF EASEMENT INTO THE ROAD FOR TRUCKS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT TURN.
UM, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE PAID FOR BY A PRIVATE DEVELOPER.
SO IT'S ALL RELATED TO THE KING SEAN CUTLERY PROJECT, WHERE, UH, THE PERSON WHO SOLD THAT PROPERTY IS BUILDING THAT ROAD FOR THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT.
BUT WE'RE TIMING THEM TOGETHER WHERE IDEALLY WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT HAPPENS BEFORE THE PROJECTS OPEN FOR KING SEAN.
COLORY THAT PROJECT STARTED AHEAD OF THIS ONE.
SO THAT'LL ALL BE DONE BEFORE THIS PROJECT'S BUILT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THE WA THE ROAD WILL BE EXPANDED OR WHATEVER, UM, PRIOR TO THIS APPLICANT.
OH YEAH, WE ALREADY HAVE A HEADSTART BECAUSE WE'RE UNDER DESIGN AND IT'S IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
UH, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE A PRETTY LONG LEAD TIME TO GET CONSTRUCTION AGAIN, HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE.
SO THE GOAL IS TO START CONSTRUCTION IN 2023, EARLY 20, 23, SO LESS THAN EIGHT MONTHS OR SO NINE MONTHS.
SO MY OTHER CONCERN IS WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO PUT ON THEIR PROPERTY? WHAT TYPE OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESS WILL IT BE? WILL IT BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE OPEN ALL NIGHT OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO CAUSE A BUNCH OF TRAFFIC WITH THAT LITTLE ROAD? I MEAN, I, IT SOUNDS GOOD WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I'M A REALIST AND I KNOW THAT THAT THE RESIDENT'S GOING TO BE MISERABLE FOR A LONG TIME AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
I'LL LET JOHN SPEAK ABOUT IT IN ERIC TOO.
BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THEM FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
THERE'S THINGS IN THE SEMICONDUCTOR INDUSTRY, UH, AUTOMATED PARTS, BUT KIND OF LIKE THE SCOTTSDALE CROSSING INTERIOR USES WHERE IT'S NOT A BUNCH OF OUTDOOR PROCESSING, LIKE THE WOODFIN MANUFACTURING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, OR THE MULCHING, UH, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A BIG BUILDING WHERE THINGS HAPPEN INSIDE AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MESS.
SO IT'S, UM, WHEN THEY SAY CLASS A BUSINESS PARK, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO ACHIEVE, BUT I, JOHN WANTS TO ADD TO IT OR FERRIC WANTS TO, OR JULES THEN.
BUT THEY'RE ASKING FOR HEAVY COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT WITH THE RESONANCE BEING SO CLOSE IN THE ROLE BEING SO SMALL.
SO THE ROAD WON'T BE SMALL, IT'S GOING TO BE EXTENDED.
SO IT IS EXPANDING UNTIL IT IS TO ME, IT'S GOING TO BE SMALL UNTIL, AND JUST KEEPING UP WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALREADY PLAN TO DO BEFORE THIS, UH, WITH THE KING SEAN, COLORY COMING IN THAT'S 700,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO THAT'S A MAJOR FACILITY THAT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THIS ONE.
UH, YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ROAD AS WELL.
WHEN YOU MENTIONED EXTENSION, IS IT, WILL IT BE GOING, UM, HOW FAR DOWN HERITAGE GROW? WILL IT GO PAST OAK OAK GROVE OR DOWN TO HOLLESLEY? WE'LL GO.
I THINK COREY IS GOING TO PULL UP A MAP, BUT IT'S BASICALLY SUPPOSED TO BE THE TERMINUS FROM THE, UH, WEST TO EAST IS GOING TO BE IMPROVED.
AND THEN THERE'LL BE THE NEW ROAD THAT GOES ALONG THE BORDER OF THE HERITAGE GROVE PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE OF IT.
AND THEN WE'LL TURN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THAT PROPERTY.
I CAN HAVE NEWS THAT THERE WE GO.
SO WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AT IT FROM THIS WAY.
SO FROM ABOUT HERE DOWN THE HERITAGE GROVE ROAD AND THE NEW ROAD WILL BE COMING THROUGH, THIS IS THE GOLD DEPOSITORY.
I DON'T COME THROUGH HERE AND THEN KIND OF MERGED THROUGH THIS WAY ONTO 180 3.
SO WE REALLY WANT TO ELIMINATE THIS SHOP.
RIGHT-HAND TURN RIGHT HERE, JUST BECAUSE IT IS DANGEROUS FOR CARS TO MAKE THAT TURN.
AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE LARGE 18 WHEELER.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON BEFORE THIS CASE.
SO ON THE, I GUESS, EVERYTHING ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE HEAVY CONSTRUCTION.
WE REALLY WOULDN'T WANT TRUCKS TO COME THIS DIRECTION.
UH, EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH WITH KING SEAN AND, UH, THE OTHER COMPANIES THERE'S MORE FLEX SPACE AND OTHER INDUSTRIAL USES COMING ON THIS SIDE.
UH, SO EVERYONE REALLY WANTS TO JUST KIND OF COME IN THROUGH HERE, GET UP TO THE PROPERTY AND THEN USE THIS AS THE WAY TO GET ONTO THE HIGHWAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE FASTEST WAY TO GET ONTO 180 3 AND GET GOING.
AND THEY DON'T USUALLY LIKE TO GO THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO, BUT ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE IS THE ROAD, I GUESS
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I KNOW IT'S DRIVABLE, BUT IS IT, UH, WILL IT BE EXTENDED OR AT LEAST PUT INTO A SITUATION TOWARDS BETTER TRAVELED? UM, THE PART THAT'S NOT PART OF HER DISH.UM, THAT'S NOT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S IN THE CIP PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE WE COULD LOOK AT.
AND THEN FOR THE DEVELOPER, THE BARRICADE POSTS OR REFLECTIVE MATERIAL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON JUDD ALLEN OR PARDON ON SAYING THE RIGHT, BUT CAN YOU GET SOME MORE DETAIL ON THAT? I WANT TO EXPECT, UH, OTHER THAN WHAT'S IN THE BACKUP AND THE PET NOTES, THAT'S THE ONLY LEVEL OF DETAIL WE HAVE AT THE MOMENT.
ULTIMATELY, THERE'S GOING TO BE A MASONRY WALL DEVELOPED ALL ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE.
SO THERE WILL BE NO ACCESS FROM JET ALAN WHITE CUTTING THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
AND SO WE JUST SUGGESTED SOME POSTS TO REFLECTIVE, POSTED, JUST MAKE IT OBVIOUS SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST A ROAD INTO A WALL.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION THOUGH.
IS THERE ANY REASON, UM, THAT Y'ALL WENT WITH HEAVY CONSTRUCTION INSTEAD SAID GENERAL COMMERCIAL, I'M SORRY.
HEAVY COMMERCIAL OVER GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT OF PROHIBITED USES UNDER HEAVY COMMERCIAL.
AND SO I, ANOTHER APPROACH WOULD HAVE BEEN GOING GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND THEN JUST ADDING SOME PERMITTED USES, WHICH WAS A SUGGESTION SUGGESTION BY ROBIN.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER.
UM, THE REASON WE, WE JUST WENT WITH HEAVY COMMERCIAL JUST TO AGAIN, ALLOW FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR POTENTIAL, UM, EMPLOYER AT THIS SITE.
IT WAS JUST TO ALLOW FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY IN CASE WE MISS SOMETHING IN CODE.
I THINK THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS WITH HEAVY COMMERCIAL ALLOWS FOR THE, UM, DISTRIBUTION AND MANUFACTURING IN THE BUILDING.
SO IN GENERAL, COMMERCIAL WOULDN'T ALLOW THAT.
WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A QUESTION.
I, I GOT OFF OF PLANNING AND ZONING IN 2019, RIGHT.
WHEN THIS LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS BEING DEVELOPED.
SO I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THAT AND COMING BACK, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M SEEING A PROBLEM WHERE WE HAVE EMPLOYMENT CENTERS THAT ARE BUMPING RIGHT UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL.
AND I ALSO FEEL THAT THERE SHOULD BE MORE OF A TRANSITION BETWEEN I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A BUSINESS NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL, WITH THE APPROPRIATE SCREENINGS AND SO FORTH.
BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HEAVY COMMERCIAL UP AGAINST A RESIDENTIAL AREA, UH, AN OFFICE USE, OR LIKE SHE SAID, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL USE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHICH WOULD BE MAYBE THE BASE OF A PUD AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE SOME OTHER ALLOWANCES THERE.
BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HEAVY COMMERCIAL AGAINST A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS HAPPENING MORE AND MORE.
THIS ISN'T THE FIRST CASE WE'VE SEEN.
AND I JUST THINK THAT WE DO OWE IT TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS TO PROTECT THEIR INVESTMENT IN THEIR HOMES.
AND THEY KNOW, I CAN TELL FROM THE COMMENTS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A BUSINESS OVER THERE, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING.
AND, UH, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUFFER.
WE NEED TO TRANSITION FROM THE RESIDENTIAL OVER TO MAYBE A GENERAL COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE TO THE INDUSTRIAL, WHICH WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.
BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S OF A TRANSITION HERE FOR BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL.
SO COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, BOY, THAT'S A LOT SAID.
UM, I REALLY SALUTE THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING UP A WALL.
I THINK IT'S PERSONALLY, I THINK IT SHOULD BE HIGHER.
I A SALUTE THE LANDSCAPING, UH, THING, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN BUILDINGS THERE THAT CAN POTENTIALLY BE 35 FEET, I THINK HE NEEDS SOMETHING HIGHER THAN A SIX FOOT WALL.
I, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE SITTING IN MY BACKYARD LOOKING UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR OR SOMETHING.
EVEN IF IT'S A 55 FOOT SETBACK THAT'S GOING TO BE.
I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A LOT.
UM, I REALLY HAVE A HARD TIME DOING ANYTHING OUT HERE WITHOUT THAT ROAD GETTING REDONE.
THE FACT THAT IT'S IN THE CAPITOL IS SOMETHING BECAUSE WE KEEP PILING STUFF IN THERE.
AND THAT ROAD QUITE FRANKLY STINKS.
I MEAN, IT IS A GOLD PATH, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I SALUTE THE FACT THAT IT'S GETTING DONE.
MY QUESTION IS HOW COME WE'RE NOT GOING WEST WITH THAT ROAD TOO AND UPGRADING THE WHOLE THING? I THINK, UH, THE MAIN REASON IS IT'S REALLY INTENDED FOR THESE INDUSTRIAL USES FOR THROUGH HERE.
SO IT'S FOR THE BIG TRUCK TRAFFIC COMING IN, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT AS A SEPARATE PROJECT, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
IS THERE A WAY, AND THIS IS JUST, I'M REALLY GRABBING AT A STRAW HERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, YELL AT ME OR SHOOT, THROW SOMETHING AT ME.
CAN WE KEEP THE, COULD WE KEEP THE TRAFFIC COMMERCIAL FROM GOING WEST? THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN EXPLORE.
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DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO LIKE A NO TRUCK THREW IT ON THE SIDE.MAYBE IT COULD BE LIKE A THREE ZONE, BUT YOU CAN'T STOP CARS FROM DRIVING ON THE ROAD.
WELL, YOU'D HAVE TO PUT UP A PHYSICAL BARRIER.
YOU KNOW, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WAS EITHER, YOU'RE PUT IN A LITTLE ROUNDABOUT THERE THAT THE TRUCKS CAN'T GO AROUND REAL EASY, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO THAT WAY OR SOMETHING RIGHT THERE AT THE DIVISION BETWEEN THE TWO.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT ROAD NEEDS TO GET REDONE.
I THINK WE CAN'T, WE KIND OF OWE IT TO THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE TO HAVE A BETTER ROAD THAN WHAT'S THERE.
YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S JUST A WILD THOUGHT.
UM, I ALSO REALLY WOULD LOOK TO SAY, WHY CAN'T WE DO SOMETHING WITH LOCAL COMMERCIAL OR GENERAL COMMERCIAL WITH MORE RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE RATHER THAN GOING TOO HEAVY, BECAUSE HEAVY WOULD ALLOW SOMEONE TO DO SOME THINGS THAT WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL AT SOME POINT IN TIME, AND IT MIGHT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW? SO, UH, THAT'S MY COMMENTS IN A NUTSHELL.
UM, I APPRECIATE A LOT OF WHAT THE DEVELOPER'S DOING HERE.
I APPRECIATE WHEN, WHEN DEVELOPERS MAKE AN EFFORT, THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, UM, WHEN WE DO HEAVY COMMERCIAL, WHAT IS THE OUTDOOR STORAGE THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IF I GAVE THAT HIM TODAY? IF SOMEBODY COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME.
SO IT WOULD BE 60% OF THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF THE PRIMARY BUILDING.
AND WHAT IS THE GROSS FLOOR AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT I DO, NOT THAT WE DON'T KNOW THAT'S PROBLEMATIC.
UM, AND THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH GOING WITH HEAVY COMMERCIAL.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION TO BASE WHETHER OR NOT HEAVY COMMERCIAL IS, IS WITH PROHIBITIONS IS BETTER THAN GENERAL COMMERCIAL WITH SOME EXTENSIONS.
I'M ALSO CONCERNED WITH ONLY A 55 FOOT SETBACK BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL.
I PERSONALLY LIVE ON A 60 FOOT WIDE LOT.
UM, I'M AN OLD FAT GUY I CAN GET FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER SIDE PRETTY QUICK.
IT'S NOT A VERY BIG SETBACK WHATSOEVER.
UM, I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ROAD BECAUSE I THINK THE ROAD WILL BE DONE WHEN THIS IS DONE.
UM, THE ROAD DOESN'T CONCERN ME VERY MUCH AT ALL.
WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THE VAGUERY OF THIS PUB.
AND WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE IS I'M BEING ASKED TO GIVE A PRETTY BIG ZONING SWING WITHOUT A LOT OF DETAIL.
AND IF I HAD MORE DETAIL, I CAN MAKE A FAR MORE INFORMED DECISION, BUT WITHOUT THE DETAIL I'M INCLINED TO, TO BE A NO, BUT THAT'S WHERE I AM NOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DELAY ACTION UNTIL THE NEXT PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING SO THAT WE DON'T SET THEM OFF COURSE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BETTER DEFINED PROJECT, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS TOO VAGUE AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PUT IN THE PUD NOTES.
I LIKE THE IDEA ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT BECAUSE CARS CAN GET THROUGH AND AN 18 WHEELER CAN, AND I KNOW THAT MOST 18 WHEELERS DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN HERITAGE GROVE.
AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME THAT CONNECTS TO SAN GABRIEL, BUT THAT'S ALL NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE, WE, WE DON'T WANT THE TRUCKS THAT WAY, ROUNDABOUT, AS MUCH AS I HATE THEM, KIND OF MAKES SENSE THERE.
UM, BUT I, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE RESTRICTIONS.
THE, THE OUTDOOR STORAGE SCARES ME AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE THE APPLICANT THE BIGGEST CHANCE TO SUCCEED WITHOUT SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO KUBOSH IT HERE, BUT SOMETHING BAD HAPPENING BECAUSE WE ALLOW FOR A ZONING THAT DOESN'T FIT BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SPEAK TO THAT BEFORE ANYBODY, THE PROBLEM IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING THE APPLICANT TO GO SPEND MONEY ON DESIGN AND, AND SPEND MORE MONEY AND DO MORE WORK TO BRING THIS BACK TO US WITH MORE DETAIL WHEN IT MIGHT GET WHEN
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IT MIGHT NOT BE APPROVED.YOU KNOW? SO, WHEREAS I HATE TO DO THAT TO SOMEONE, IF, IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH A HEAVY COMMERCIAL IN GENERAL, IF THAT'S THE CONSENSUS, BUT THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS.
I DON'T LIKE TO, FOR THEM TO HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY ON NECESSARILY THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR AREA, SHE, UH, TALKED ABOUT HOW THE ZONING HAS BEEN DENIED, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TIMES.
AND SO, UM, YEAH, THIS IS A PROPERTY WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST OF IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN APPROVED.
UH, THAT, THAT, THAT WAS PROBABLY A MISTAKE IN HINDSIGHT.
AND, YOU KNOW, HINDSIGHT'S 2020 ON THAT.
BUT, UM, I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY AN OFFICE PARK IS A BAD IDEA AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT DOING RENDERINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT A MORE, IF THEY SAID THEY WANT TO DO AN OFFICE PARK WITH BUILDINGS THAT ARE 35, 40 FEET HIGH OR WHATEVER THEY ARE, AND A BASIC, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY BRING US A PUD THAT LIMITS IT TO THAT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THE BAD THINGS I WOULD BE FOR THAT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT INDUSTRIAL ON BOTH PLOTS TO THE EAST, WE'VE GOT INDUSTRIAL ALMOST DIRECTLY SOUTH, UH, AND MORE INDUSTRIAL GOING RIGHT THERE.
UH, SOMETHING THE BUFFERS DOES MAKE SENSE, BUT I, YEAH, I I'M WITH YOU.
I DON'T LIKE JUST THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL, WHATEVER THEY CAN BRING US BACK.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS TO BE HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT COULD BE DONE IN TWO WEEKS.
I HAD A FEELING THIS MIGHT COME UP SOMETHING THAT I ADVISED THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPER ON.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S NOT ANY ADDITIONAL DETAIL THAT CAN BE GIVEN.
I KNOW THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO MAYBE DO IT AT A HIGHER WALL.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SHARED WITH THE FEW, UM, HAVEN OAKS RESIDENTS AFTER THE BIG MEETING THAT I HAD.
UM, BUT OTHER, BUT AS FAR AS PROVIDING ADDITIONAL DETAIL THAT, I MEAN, THIS IS ABOUT ALL WE CAN DO.
AND, UM, I JUST FIGURED I'D LET YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF WASTING TIME ON US GOING BACK WITH THE SAME THING WITHOUT GETTING, EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY, WITHOUT GETTING IN.
I THINK MAYBE WHAT COMMISSIONER, MAY IS SPEAKING OF, IS, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT MULTIPLE 3000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDINGS? OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ONE, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT? I MEAN, IT'S JUST REALLY SO VAGUE THAT YOU KNOW IT, AND IT COULD BE SO DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS, COULD SO AFFECT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE NEIGHBORS.
I KNOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT MULTIPLE BUILDINGS AND THEY CAN PROBABLY GIVE A RANGE OF SQUARE FOOTAGE.
UM, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT IT.
AND I COULD PROBABLY GET ERIC OR JOHN TO GIVE YOU THAT IF YOU'RE WANTING TO, WELL, ALMOST ANYTHING WOULD BE MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS REALLY WHERE WE'RE AT WITH IT.
IT'S SO HARD FOR US TO SAY, BECAUSE COMMISSIONER MAY IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
SOMETHING'S GOING TO GO ONTO THIS PROPERTY SOMEDAY AND IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE, IT CAN'T BE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
I DON'T THINK IT BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GOT TURNED DOWN WAS THE CHIP PLANT THAT WAS THERE.
SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE ASKING FOR HEAVY COMMERCIAL WITH SEVERAL RESTRICTED USES.
I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT, BUT THAT I CAN ALSO UNDERSTAND HOW ALL THESE PEOPLE FEEL THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT DOOR, YOU KNOW, AND A POINT THAT DID COME BACK IS WHEN IT ACTUALLY 55, I APPRECIATE THE 55 FEET, BUT MAYBE THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.
CAN YOU DO MORE? I MEAN IT, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER MAY IS LOOKING FOR IS CAN WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, MAKE YOU ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS NOW, WHAT YOU CAN'T ANYWAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WELL, YEAH, NO, BUT I WILL SAY, I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY COMMUNICATED TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WE COULD DO 65 FEET SETBACK BUILDING SETBACK, AND WE COULD DO, UM, A THREE FOOT BERM UNDER THE MASONARY WALL TO MAKE IT HIGHER FOR SCREENING.
OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY'D BE WILLING TO AGREE TO AT THIS POINT.
ANYBODY ELSE? THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.
UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN WITH COMMISSIONER.
MAY, DID YOU WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION OR DID YOU MAKE THE, I DON'T KNOW IF HE PHYSICALLY MADE THE MOTION OR NOT.
I MADE THE MOTION TO DELAY IT FOR TWO WEEKS TO SEE IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A BETTER DEFINED PROJECT.
AND AGAIN, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR DETAILS AND MAPS AND EXACT SQUARE FOOTAGES OF EVERYTHING,
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BUT, UM, WHEN THIS CAN BE OUTDOOR STORAGE FOR 60% OF THE SIZE OF THE MAIN BUILDING AND WHAT COULD BE STORED OUTDOORS AND IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD D THESE THINGS CONCERN ME AND I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE RESTRICTIONS AND FROM THE FULL HEAVY COMMERCIAL, AND IT'S NOT, UH, BUT IT IS NEXT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.COMMISSIONER MAY HAS MADE A MOTION.
DO I HAVE A SECOND SEEING ON THE MOTION DIES? DO I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO DENY.
I HAVE A MOTION DENIED BY COMMISSIONER BLANCHARD A SECOND.
I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOSS, ALL IN FAVOR OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES 5 1 2.
MR. MAYOR WAS LIKE, YOU STATE YOUR POSITION FOR THE RECORD.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THEM HAVE A SECOND CHANCE COMING UP WITH A BETTER PLAN.
WELL, HAVE THEY, THEY DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO COUNCIL, RIGHT? THEY, THEY, THEY ARE NOT.
SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WE ARE NOT THE FINAL ARBITER OF THE CASE CITY COUNCIL IS SO, SO THIS WILL GO FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEY WILL HAVE THE FINAL WORD.
I AM 12 HAS BEEN PULLED, WHICH BRINGS US TO ITEM
[13. Discuss and consider action regarding Subdivision Case 21-PP-013 to approve the Leander Estates Preliminary Plat on three parcels of land approximately 210.6 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R560185 and R560184; and Travis Central Appraisal District Parcel 905245; generally located at the north west corner of CR 280 and the future extension of Lakeline Blvd., Leander, Williamson and Travis Counties, Texas. Staff Presentation Discussion Consider Action]
13, DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING SUBDIVISION CASE 21 DASH P DASH 0 1 3.STATE'S PRELIMINARY PLAT ON THREE PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 210.6 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE.
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON COUNTY CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS PARCELS ARE 5 6 0 1 8 5 AND ARE 5 60 0 1 8 4 AND TRAVIS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCEL 9 0 5 2 4 5, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF CR TWO 80 AND THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF LAKELINE BOULEVARD, THE ANDREW WILLIAMSON AND TRAVIS COUNTIES, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATIONS.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, MICHAEL CHANEL, SKI PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UM, SO I HAD DROPPED OFF A PACKET ON YOUR DESK EARLIER, UH, THAT WAS THE FULL PRELIMINARY PLAT.
SO WE HAD SOME MINOR CORRECTIONS RIGHT BEFORE POSTING, UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY ONLY THE CORRECTED SHEETS WERE ADDED.
UH, SO I JUST GAVE YOU THE WHOLE PACKET JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE IT.
UM, SO THIS PROPOSAL INCLUDES THE REMOVAL OF THREE HERITAGE TREES, 1 29 INCH HERITAGE TREE ALONG THE, UM, FUTURE EXPANSION OF LAKELAND BOULEVARD.
AND THEN TWO, UH, TREES IN THE DETENTION POND.
ONE IS THE 26 INCH AND ONE IS THE 27 IN CHARITON STREET.
UH, AND I CAN POINT TO THOSE AS WELL.
UH, SO ONE OF THEM IS RIGHT OVER HERE AND THE OTHER ONE, THE AUDIENCE CAN HEAR YOU.
UH, ONE OF THE HERITAGE TREES IS UP IN THIS DETENTION POND.
THE OTHER ONE IS OVER HERE AND THIS ONE AND THE THIRD ONE IS IN THE EXPANSION OF LAKE LINE, UH, TOWARDS THE NORTH, UH, OF THE SHEET.
UM, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT ALSO INCLUDES 596 INCHES OF PRESERVED HERITAGE TREES AND 40 1072 INCHES OF PRESERVED SIGNIFICANT TREES.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING TO PAY THE HERITAGE TREE, A REMOVAL FEE AND A MITIGATION FEE, AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, THANK YOU, SIR.
MY NAME IS MARY RICHARDSON, 2,500 COUNCIL SPRINGS PASS.
GREATWOOD A STATES JUST THAT WILL BE NEXT DOOR.
WE'RE REALLY GLAD THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO BE ACRE LOTS BECAUSE, UM, OUR AREA DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF ROADWAYS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN ON COUNTY ROAD TWO 80, YOU HAVE A SEASON.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A WINDY ROAD AND NOT A THOROUGHFARE.
AND LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION THAT I SAW ONLINE, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANY THAT THEY WOULD STILL ALL BE COMING THROUGH ON TWO 80.
MY, ALL OF OUR CONCERNS IS THE ROADWAY AND THE TRAFFIC.
NOW, IF LAKELINE BOULEVARD WOULD GO ON AND HOOK UP TO SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY, THEN YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE MUCH MORE, IT WOULD WORK OUT BETTER BECAUSE RIGHT NOW PEOPLE TRYING TO GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE MORNING ARE HAVING A HARD TIME.
CAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.
ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS TIME FOR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER
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CARPENTER.WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THE CONEY ROAD OUT THERE FOR UPGRADING THAT AT LEAST TO PASS THIS SECTION HERE? UM, SO LIKE MOVING TOWARDS BAGHDAD THIS WAY.
UM, IT'S ON, I THINK IT'S ON THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
DO YOU REMEMBER? SO WHEN THEY DEVELOP, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR ROADWAY, ADEQUACY FEES AND WE'RE COLLECTING.
AND AS SOON AS WE GET A CIP, THEY'LL START THAT TYPE OF WORK.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, LAKELINE THROUGH A WAY THAT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE PLANS FOR THAT? THERE IS, YEAH, THAT'S ALSO ON OUR MASTER PLAN.
SO, UM, WE COLLECTED FROM GREATWOOD PREVIOUSLY.
WE'LL GET IT FROM GREENWOOD SOUTH.
WE'LL GET IT FROM THIS PROJECT AND THE PROJECT TO THE SOUTH, BUT THEY'LL HAVE TO PAY TOWARDS BUILDING THE ROAD, CORRECT LAKELINE.
SO THIS PROJECT HAPPENS OUT HERE STARTING AS SOON AS APPROVAL THEORETICALLY, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE, IT TAKES A WHILE TO WORK.
I DO KNOW THAT HOW LONG HAS LAKELAND, THEY HAVE A DISCUSSION.
I'LL ASK YOU, YOU GUYS GO OUTSIDE, PLEASE.
HOW LONG HAS LAKELINE LOOKING AT HAPPENING? RIGHT.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO CONSULT WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
UM, WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY CLIFF GET THE RIGHT OF WAY AS WELL AS MONEY TOWARDS LAKELINE.
SO ONCE THEY GET ENOUGH AND IT'S ADDED TO THE CIP PLAN, CONSTRUCT IT.
UM, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAD ON THIS LAST TRIP.
NO QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
UH, THE HERITAGE TREE, UH, WHAT 16, UH, PAGE 15.
UM, IS THAT, THAT ONE IS BEING REMOVED, CORRECT? IN THAT LITTLE YELLOW BOTTOM? UH, KIND OF IN THE CENTER.
AND IS THAT A, THAT'S GOING TO BE A HOUSE? NO, THAT'S A DETENTION FOR DRAINAGE.
SO WERE THOSE COLOR DRIVEN CENTRAL MONTHS? THAT MAKES SENSE.
COMMISSIONER MOSS, NO QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS.
AND I HAVE NO QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS.
MOTION TO, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER ELANTRA.
SECOND, THEN I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY WITH THAT.