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[1. Open Meeting.]
GOOD EVENING.TODAY IS THURSDAY, JULY 21ST, 2022.
AND THIS IS THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL CITY,
[2. Roll Call.]
SECRETARY PENN BERG.WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL? YES, MA'AM SORRY.
COUNCIL MEMBER BATTALION PARKER HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MATTKE LONGORIA HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MACDONALD, YOUR MAYOR PROTEIN THOMPSON COUNCIL MEMBERS DONATE HERE.
[3. Old Town Park Update.]
ONTO ITEM NUMBER THREE OLD TOWN PARK UPDATE WITH PARKS DIRECTOR TIMMINS.GOOD EVENING, MR. TIMMINS, WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR US TONIGHT? THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
GREAT TO BE HERE AS ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT PARKS.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE WE DO THAT QUITE OFTEN, WHICH IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING IN MY OPINION.
ANYWAY, SO, UH, TONIGHT WE DO WANT TO JUST PROVIDE A UPDATE, BEING VERY OPEN, TRANSPARENT WITH YOU.
SO YOU'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH OLD TOWN.
AND, UM, WE HAVE, UH, OF COURSE TONY BETTIS, OUR CITY PROJECT MANAGER AND PHILIP WONKY, UH, CEO OF PLACE DESIGN THEY'RE WITH US TONIGHT.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DOING MOST OF THE PRESENTATION AND THEN I'LL BE AVAILABLE ALONG WITH THE BOTH OF THEM FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END.
UM, AND SO AT THIS POINT I MIGHT ASK TONY TO COME ON UP AND, UM, KICK US OFF.
THANK YOU, YOU THE HONOR COUNCIL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US UP HERE TODAY.
UM, LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET THIS GOING WITH REGARDS TO TOWN OLD TOWN PARK.
I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE, WHERE YOU ARE TRYING TO GET THERE.
WE'RE OBLIGATED WITH REGARDS TO THE 2019 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE HAD DETERMINED THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS PARK TO MAKE IT NICE.
WE HAVE THE CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL OUT THERE.
WE HAVE THE OLD TOWN FESTIVAL.
IT'S NOT A NICE PLACE, BUT IT'S STILL A PLACE FOR US TO, TO BRING OUR, OUR CITIZENS TOGETHER AND, AND, AND ENJOY.
AND 2020, DECEMBER, 2020 PLUS DESIGNERS WAS HIRED TO DESIGN TO PROVIDE THE DOCUMENTS, UM, IN 20, UH, FEBRUARY 23, OR I'M SORRY, FEBRUARY OF 2021 CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE FINAL CONCEPTUAL DESIGN.
AND BY AUGUST OF 21, WE HAD THE DRAWINGS APPROVED AND PERMITTED BY NOVEMBER OF 21 LAST YEAR, THIS IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND BRW HAD SUBMITTED THE COMPREHENSIVE FACILITIES PLAN TO CITY COUNCIL.
NOW THIS, OF COURSE INVOLVED EVERYTHING, WHAT THEY THOUGHT SHOULD OCCUR WITHIN THE CITY AND HOW WE NEED TO GROW BECAUSE WE ARE DEFINITELY IN A TIGHT LITTLE SPACES HERE, BUT ONE OF THOSE THINGS INCLUDED CITY HALL.
AND SO THIS KIND OF CAME INTO THE THINKING PROCESS BY DECEMBER OF 2021, WE HAD OUR FIRST SOLICITATION, WE RECEIVED TWO BIDS ON OLD TOWN PARK.
WE HAD OUR HUSBAND OR WAS 2.1 MILLION.
HE WAS DISQUALIFIED AND HE WAS A BIT HIGH.
UH, THE LOWEST BIDDER WAS AT 1.1 MILLION.
THEY WITHDREW THEIR BID BECAUSE THEY REALIZED REAL QUICK THAT THEY HAD UNDERBID.
AND SO WE PRETTY MUCH UNDERSTAND THAT OUR COST OF THIS PARK IS PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO COSTS.
IN JANUARY OF 20TH, WE HAD REQUESTED THE CITY COUNCIL TO REJECT THOSE BEDS AND REBIDS SO THE CITY COUNCIL DID REJECT THE BIDS DURING THE RETREAT.
JANUARY 29TH, CITY COUNCIL DID REVIEW THE PROJECT SCOPE AND COST AND HAD DETERMINED THAT PERHAPS, MAYBE WE SHOULD REDUCE THE SCOPE FOR INITIALLY FOR THE PARK AND HOPEFULLY REDUCE THE COST UNTIL WE CAN ACTUALLY DETERMINE THROUGH THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN AND WHAT DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO FOR THE CITY HALL.
SO FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE HAVE DROPPED BACK AND REASSESS WHAT WE COULD DO TO REDUCE THE SCOPE, SAVE SOME COSTS, BUT YET STILL PROVIDE A NICE LITTLE PARK FOR EVERYBODY TO ENJOY.
AND ON JUNE 29TH PLACE, DESIGNERS HAD SUBMITTED A REDUCED SCOPE FOR US.
WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY AS OF LAST DECEMBER OF THE ORIGINAL SCOPE, WE HAD THE STAGE CANOPY.
WE HAD CANOPIES DOWN THE ALLEY IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE CURRENT CITY HOME.
UM, WE HAD WATER TOWER WITH A CLOCK AND A RAIN CURTAIN.
WE HAD WATER CANNONS UP BY THE STREET.
SOUTH STREET HAD A BULKY BOTCHY BALL COURT AND AN INFORMATION KIOSK WE HAD OF COURSE, SIDEWALKS, RAMPS, PAPERED AREAS, NICE FLAT AREAS TO, TO WALK THROUGH AND GET AROUND, HAD OUTDOOR SEATING, LANDSCAPING, BEAUTIFUL TREES, A LOT OF SHRUBBERY, BUT IN IRRIGATION SITE, LIGHTING REQUIRED ADA PARKING.
WE PUT IN A STREET PARKING LONG BED DUD STREET, AND WE HAD TRAFFIC DETERRENCE AT THE ALLEY.
SO WE COULD CLOSE OFF THE ALLEY AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
SINCE THAT POINT IN TIME IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WE HAVE FOUND THAT WE CAN REDUCE THE SCOPE, STILL KEEPING THE STATE'S CANOPY, CAUSE IT'S STILL A VERY HOT SUNNY SITE.
UM, STILL HAVE MAINTAINING SIDEWALKS, RAMPS, PAVER AREAS,
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STILL MAINTAINING MUCH OF THE OUTDOOR SEATING, BUT REDUCED TO BENCHES ONLY, UM, LANDSCAPING.WE TRIED TO LOOK AT IT, WHAT WE COULD DO TO BECOME MORE CONSERVATIVE AND BETTER WITH REGARDS TO NOT UTILIZING A LOT OF WATER, PROVIDING SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, FAIRLY MAINTENANCE, UH, LOW MAINTENANCE.
AND WE CAME UP WITH THE NEW LANDSCAPING WOULD POTENTIALLY ADDING A SYNTHETIC TURF SYSTEM AND REDUCING THE NUMBER OF SHRUBS.
WE STILL HAVE IRRIGATION, BUT WE'RE REDUCING THE IRRIGATION ALONG WITH REDUCTION OF LANDSCAPING.
UH, STILL HAVE SITE LIGHTING, STILL HAVE 80 PARKING STREET PARKING LOT.
AND BACK THAT STREET, WE ARE PUTTING OUT ALTERNATIVE ITEMS. CAUSE WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE BITTERS GO AHEAD AND BID THESE ALTERNATIVE ITEMS. SEE IF WE CAN AFFORD THEM.
WE INCLUDED THE BOCCE BALL, COURT PLANTERS AND ALTERNATIVE OUTDOOR SEATING.
NOW IN DECEMBER, WHEN WE LAST BID, THIS IS WHAT THE PARK WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE WE GO RIGHT THERE.
WE HAD THE WATER TOWER HERE ALONG THE BACK ALLEYWAY.
WE HAD NICE SEATING AREAS WITH SHADED CANOPIES.
UH, WE HAD RIGHT HERE, TRAFFIC DETERRENT SYSTEMS THAT WOULD POP UP, ALLOWS CLOSE OFFICE ALLEY SYSTEM.
UM, THERE'S THE BASKETBALL COURT RIDER HERE.
WE HAD A LITTLE INFORMATION KIOSK OVER HERE.
THESE WERE WATER CANNONS ALONG THE WAY HERE.
AND THEN WE HAD OF COURSE, A REALLY BEAUTIFUL, UH, NICE LANDSCAPING.
WE CAME BACK THROUGH AND SAID, OKAY, LET'S, LET'S DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO REDUCE THE SCOPE.
AND SO WE LOOKED AT DELAYING MANY ITEMS BECAUSE UNTIL WE ACTUALLY DETERMINED WHAT WE CAN DO OR NEED TO DO WITH REGARDS TO THE CITY AND THE CITY HALL, WE DON'T WANT TO REALLY TAKE THESE OFF THE TABLE, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO SOLELY INSTALL THEM AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL PUT IN UNDERGROUND SYSTEMS SUCH AS ANY KIND OF FUTURE ELECTRICAL AND AIR WATER LINES THAT IF WE DO CHOOSE AT A LATER DATE TO INSTALL THESE, WE CAN DO THEM READILY.
UM, THAT INCLUDE, OF COURSE, COME ON ANYWHERE.
UM, TEMPORARILY DELAYING THE TOWER, UH, THE LANG THE TRAFFIC DETERRENT SYSTEMS, THE LANG THE CANOPIES ALONG THE ALLEYWAY HERE DELAYING THE INFORMATION KIOSK.
WE DELETED THE WATER CANNONS, WHICH SINCE WE'RE TRYING TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE SPECIFICALLY FOR WATER, UH, WE ADDED THIS SIDEWALK WE'RE TEMPORARILY EMITTING FROM THIS PROJECT.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT WE HAVE A PROJECT COMING UP ON SOUTH STREET WHERE WE'RE GOING TO ADD IN WATER LINE AND IT WOULD BE VERY FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US TO BUILD A SIDEWALK AND THEN RIP IT RIGHT OUT AGAIN.
UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT SIDEWALK IN WHEN WE BUILD SOUTH STREET AND I'LL GET TO THAT HERE IN A SECOND.
AND OF COURSE, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THOUGH, TEMPORARILY IS WE'LL PUT IN A RIBBON CURB JUST TO DELINEATE BETWEEN ANY KIND OF OFF STREET PARKING AND THE LANDSCAPED AREAS.
AS WE DROPPED BACK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, WE SAID, WELL, WE STILL NEED TO REMOVE A FEW MORE AUDITS, BUT WE REALLY DON'T WANT GET RID OF THEM.
SO WE'LL LEAVE THEM AS ALTERNATIVES.
AND THAT INVOLVES, UH, SOME OF THE OUTDOOR SEATING THAT INVOLVED THE BASKETBALL COURT RIGHT THERE, UH, THAT INVOLVED SOME PLANTERS THAT WE HAD UP FRONT AND SOME BENCHES THAT WE HAD SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE PARK SYSTEM.
LIKE I SAID, WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THOSE AS ALTERNATIVES, BUT IF WE CAN'T AFFORD THEM, WE UNDERSTAND AT LEAST WE'LL STILL HAVE A USABLE PARK.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO PUT OUT THE BID, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY IS TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT WE'D LIKE TO PUT OUT THE BID.
IT SHOWS THE PARK, OOPS, LET ME GO BACK.
SO AS THE PARK WITH THE LANDSCAPING, THE FLAT WORK, WHICH IS THE PAVED AREAS, THE SIDEWALKS, UH, ANY KIND OF RAMP PARKING, THE OFF STREET, PARKING, THE HANDICAP PARKING, UM, AND ANY, ARE THERE PATHS, PADS THAT MIGHT PROVIDE FOR POTENTIAL FUTURE ADDITIONS NOW ON THIS PROJECT TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, IF W IF WE CAN GET APPROVAL AND, YOU KNOW, YOU AGREE THAT WE'RE GOING DOWN THE RIGHT PATH HERE, WE BELIEVE POTENTIALLY WE COULD GET THIS OUT TO BID HERE IN AUGUST, PROBABLY LATE AUGUST, BUT HAVE BIDS RECEIVED IN SEPTEMBER.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL, AND WE HAVE QUALIFIED CONTRACTORS, WE COULD HAVE A CONTRACTOR AGREEMENT BY NOVEMBER IN NOVEMBER, WE HAVE THE CHRISTMAS EVENT COMING UP.
WE DON'T WANT TO REALLY DO DO ANYTHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY UPSET THAT CHRISTMAS EVENT.
SO WE WOULD DELAY THROUGH DECEMBER.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE WOULDN'T BE DOING ANY WORK WE'D BE GOING THROUGH.
AND WE WOULD BE, UH, REVIEWING AND APPROVING ALL THE SUBMITTALS DURING THAT POINT IN TIME, GIVING US A HEADS UP AND A HEADSTART.
AND WHEN WE HIT JANUARY, WE COULD START BREAKING GROUND AND ACTUALLY START CONSTRUCTION.
IF WE GET THAT, WE FEEL THAT WE WOULD BE COMPLETED BY MAY, JUST IN TIME, HOPEFULLY FOR, UM, YOU'LL TELL FESTIVAL, THERE IS SOME THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO BRING OUT, AND HOPEFULLY I'M NOT THERE ENOUGH TO KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE
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OR NOT, BUT WE HAVE MULTIPLE CIP PROJECTS.AND THESE RELATED PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE HERE IN THE OLD TOWN AREA.
OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE OLD TOWN PARK, WHICH WE ANTICIPATE BEING CONSTRUCT UNDER CONSTRUCTION BETWEEN WINTER AND SPRING OF 2023.
WE ADDING IN NEW EIGHT INCH WATER LINES AND SOME 12 INCH WATER LINES FOR THE DOWNTOWN FIRE IMPROVEMENTS THAT CONSTRUCTION WE BELIEVE WILL BE DURING WINTER FOR ALMOST 12 MONTHS THROUGH WINTER OF 2024.
SO THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT A LOT OF THOSE STREETS THAT YOU SEE IN THE, THE LIGHT TURQUOISE BLUE.
SO ANYTHING THAT WE MIGHT HAVE GOING FOR PARADE SYSTEMS OR ANY OTHER KINDS OF EVENTS, WE NEED TO KEEP THAT AND BE AWARE OF THAT A WILL AFFECT THOSE EVENTS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, SOUTH STREET AND WEST DRIVE, WE NEED TO WIDEN AND IMPROVE THOSE STREETS.
WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL BE IN CONSTRUCTION STARTING SPRING OF 2024, GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH AUTUMN OF 20, 25.
UM, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH AND WE HAVE EVENTS.
SO THAT WAY WE DON'T, UM, WORK ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.
NOW THE ESTIMATED PROJECT COST WITHOUT THE ALTERNATIVE ITEMS WOULD BE ABOUT 1.07 MILLION.
WE'RE THE ALTERNATIVE COST ESTIMATING ABOUT 1.15 MILLION.
RIGHT NOW THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY INFLATION IS SLOWING THINGS DOWN, BUT WE ARE REMAINING AT, AT SUCH A HISTORICALLY HIGH RATES THAT WE WON'T SEE THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION COME DOWN FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES STILL MAY IMPACT PVC PIPE, IRRIGATION VALVES, AND POTENTIALLY SYNTHETIC TURF.
WE ARE TRYING VERY HARD TO BE UTILIZED WATER CONSERVATION EFFORTS, UH, DROUGHT RESISTANT PLANTS, SOME ZEROSCAPING SYNTHETIC TURF REDUCED IRRIGATION NEEDS AND ELIMINATING THE WATER CANNONS AND THE RAIN CURTAIN OFF THE TOWER.
I'M PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUES OVER HERE CAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION THAN I DO WITH REGARDS TO WATER CONSERVATION EFFORTS.
AND AT THIS POINT, TOM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UM, IF I CAN REMEMBER THE, I KNOW THAT THIS IS, THIS IS FOR THE PARK ITSELF, BUT THE PARKING, UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT IT, IT'S HARD TO SEE WHAT THAT IS.
AND OF COURSE I HAVE IN MY MIND WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE OR WHAT I THINK IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT SHOWS, I MEAN, I'M, I'M ENVISIONING NOT PARALLEL PARKING LIKE WE HAVE ON BRUSHY, BUT AT AN ANGLE ON BOTH STREETS ON SOUTH STREET AND BAGHDAD.
UM, SO ARE, IS IT, IS IT VIABLE TO DO THAT? AND IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OR IS THAT IN THE DESIGN AT ALL? YEAH, MY APOLOGIES.
UM, THE LIMITATIONS WE HAVE ON WIDTH ON THE STREETS MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR US AS YOU HEAD IN PARKING LOTS, WE TAKE AWAY FROM THE PARK ITSELF.
I MEAN, IF, IF NEED BE, YES, WE PROBABLY COULD DROP BACK.
BUT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWING THAT WE'D BE TAKEN AWAY FROM PARK SPACE, THE ROADS THEMSELVES ARE TOO NARROW FOR US TO REALLY PUT THEM OUT THERE.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS POINT IN TIME, PARALLEL PARKING LOT OFF THE STREET FOR BOTH STREETS, BOTH BAGHDAD END CELL.
SO IF WE WIDEN THE ROADS AND, AND STILL DID THE, WHAT DO YOU CALL HEAD END PARKING? YES MA'AM.
UM, SO IT'S MORE OF A DIAGONAL, I GUESS.
UM, HAVE, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN PARKING SPACES IS ONE WAY VERSUS THE OTHER ON THOSE TWO STREETS? WELL, CONSIDERING YOU'RE REMOVING SOME OF THE PARK AND I MEAN, AM I THROWING A WHOLE WRENCH IN THE SYSTEM? NO.
I MEAN, WE WANT TO BUILD THE RIGHT THING AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT.
UM, AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION TOO, WHEN I HAVE A QUICK ADDITION.
SO WITH THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN, THEY'RE DOING AN ASSESSMENT OF ALL OF OLD TOWN FOR PARKING AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE PROPOSALS LIKE THAT.
SO IT WOULD COME UP WITH THE ROAD PROJECTS, WE CAN MAKE THOSE ACCOMMODATIONS.
SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN THAT WILL IMPROVE THAT, THAT PARKING THERE.
UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, I THOUGHT THERE WAS THREE, BUT THIS, THIS IS, UH, REGARDING THE, UM, THE ALTERNATIVE ITEMS. SO IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THERE WAS A DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE IN COST WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BASIC ITEMS AND THEN ADDING THE OTHERS.
HOW DO YOU PLAN TO DO THE BID ITSELF? ARE YOU GOING TO ASK FOR A BID FOR EVERYTHING AND BREAK IT OUT WHERE, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST DO THIS PART VERSUS THIS PART.
SO WE HAVE, UH, WE CAN MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION.
IT COULD BE THAT WE JUST DO IT ALL, BUT THEN WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION AT THAT TIME, AS OPPOSED TO US DECIDING WHAT WE WANT AND THEN GETTING THE BID LATER.
I JUST SEE A CHALLENGE DOING SOMETHING LATER.
ONCE WE HAVE SOMETHING IT'S KIND OF BEEN, WHY DO YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE TO IT? YES, MA'AM UNDERSTANDABLE.
NORMALLY WHAT WE DO IN THESE SITUATIONS, WE WILL ASK FOR A BASE BED.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ALTERNATIVES LISTED OUT AND WE'LL ASK FOR THE PRICING AS WELL.
THAT GIVES US THE CHANCE TO, TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT WE WANT.
THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE WANTED TO KNOW.
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IF I REMEMBER THE OTHER ONE, I'LL, I'LL LET YOU KNOW, HERE'S YOUR DISPOSAL.SINCE I WASN'T HERE, WHEN THE WATER TOWER WAS PROPOSED, WHAT'S THE INTENT OF THAT? IS IT JUST LOOK AND FEEL, OR IT'S NOT ACTUALLY FUNCTIONING TO THE FOCAL POINT BEING TEMPTED.
IT WAS NOT FUNCTIONING PERHAPS.
AND EVEN SOME SOMETHING TO SEE FROM AROUND THE CORNER AND TO PULL YOU OFF OF 180 3 TO BRING SOMEBODY THERE.
COUNSEL, MR. MASONIC WAS HERE DURING THAT TIME.
IT WAS AN ICONIC PIECE FOR OLD TOWN AREA, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO SEE COMING AND DIRECTION, ESPECIALLY OFF OF 180 3, UM, AND SEEING THE OLD TOWN AREA AND YOU HAVE THIS NICE WATER TOWER AND SO FORTH LIKE THAT.
I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT YOU ALL MAY REMEMBER, WAS IT ROUND ROCK OR ONE OF THE OTHER EXAMPLES WHERE THEY HAD THAT KIND OF, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM 35 AS A, KIND OF A PLACE, UH, IDENTIFICATION WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR WATER TOWER IN THEIR OLD TOWN.
WE ALSO VISITED SALITO AND THEIR WATER TOWER THAT THEY HAVE DOWNTOWN.
UM, SO THERE WAS VERY SIMILAR, THERE'S A LOT OF WATER TOWERS AROUND LIKE THAT.
SO YES, THAT'S W THAT'S VERY CLOSE TO WHERE THE ORIGINAL WATER TOWER WAS FOR OLD TOWN.
SO IT, IT HAS A HISTORICAL REFERENCE AS WELL.
SO I GUESS, I MEAN, ALTHOUGH I THINK IT'S COOL, I'M WONDERING IN THE COST, HOW MUCH IS THE, THE, THE PLUMBING AND ALL THE ELECTRICAL FOR SOMETHING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE DONE.
AND I DON'T WANT TO SHORTCHANGE ANYTHING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WONDER WITH THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN AND THAT THERE'S A FAIRLY LIKELIHOOD THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT PARK IS SPENDING MONEY FOR THE PLUMBING AND THE ELECTRICAL FOR THE, MAYBE OF HAVING THE WATER TOWER LATER.
IS THAT, IS IT THAT SIGNIFICANT OF THIS? I MEAN, IF WE WERE TO REMOVE THE WATER AND THE ELECTRIC FOR THAT, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BRING THE COST DOWN SEVERAL THOUSAND PLATES, BUT THAT WASN'T FOR THE WATERTOWN.
AND IF IT'S, IF IT'S A HUGE NUMBER, BUT I DON'T WANT TO COUNT PAPERCLIPS HERE.
SO THE REASON WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT, IF IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE HOOKUPS.
OTHERWISE YOU'RE TEARING A WHOLE LOT OF THE PARK UP JUST TO GET IT HOOKED UP.
SO THE COST IS, IS SOMEWHAT MINIMAL TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THERE.
EVEN IF YOU DON'T USE IT, IT STILL CAN BE A VIABLE PART.
I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE PARKING.
UM, AND THIS ONE, I THINK THE FIRST ONE IS ACTUALLY FROM MS. GRIFFIN.
UM, IN THE PLAN THAT'S BEING WORKED ON, ARE THEY LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF MAKING THE STREETS AROUND HERE ONE WAY, THEY'RE GOING TO CONSIDER EVERYTHING EXCELLENT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS ON THE TABLE.
UM, I KNOW WE WOULD END UP LOSING PARKLAND FOR HEAD-IN PARKING, BUT I THINK WE'LL END UP WITH MORE SPACES AND ALSO PARALLEL PARKING SUCKS.
I HATE COMING HERE WHEN I HAVE TO PARK ON THE STREET BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF SPACES.
AND I USED TO BE ABLE TO DO PARALLEL PARKING.
WHEN I LIVED IN A BIG CITY AND OUT HERE, IT'S SO INFREQUENT, I THINK FOR A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS, IT'S A PAIN.
UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK NO'S, AND PARKING IS A LOT FRIENDLIER, ESPECIALLY TOO, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY FAMILIES AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING OUT TO THE PARK AND PARKING ON THE STREET AND TRYING TO GET YOUR KIDS OUT CAN BE A DANGER.
SO I'M IN FAVOR OF WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THE PARKING IS NOSING.
I JUST WANT TO BRING UP WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DESIGNING THIS AND WE HAD THAT OPTION, UM, WE SAW SOUTH STREET AS THE FRONT DOOR TO THE PARK.
AND SO AS PEOPLE PASS IT, THE MORE CARS YOU PUT IN THE WAY THEY CAN'T SEE THE PARK AND IT BECOMES CLUTTER.
SO THE IDEA WAS TO ORIGINALLY, WE HAD HAD PARALLEL PARKING AND THEN THE MAIN CENTRAL PART WAS LEFT RIGHT UP AGAINST, YOU KNOW, JUST NO PARKING IN FRONT OF THAT.
SO KEEP THAT IN MIND, AS YOU WANT TO LOOK AT PARKING, BECAUSE IT CAN CLUTTER UP DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE.
I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT WE ARE SO LOW ON PARKING IN THIS AREA ANYWHERE WE CAN FIT IT IN IS GREAT.
SOUTH STREETS, ALSO A COLLECTOR CLASS ROAD.
SO WE PREFER NOT TO HAVE CARS BACKING OUT INTO IT CAUSE IT'S MEANT TO BE A LITTLE FASTER.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT.
AND I CAN SAY, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ADDING IN WITH REGARDS TO BAGHDAD STREET, WE HAVE ELECTRICAL POWER LINES THAT GO THROUGH THERE.
I'M NEGOTIATING WITH PEC RIGHT NOW TO RUN THOSE UNDERGROUND.
IF THEY RUN THEM UNDERGROUND, THAT WILL LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO PUT IN, IN HEAD HAD EMBARKED IN JUST CURIOUS TOO, IS WITH THE GROUPS THAT ARE COMING IN HERE AND LOOKING AT REDEVELOPING AND BRINGING IN RESTAURANTS AND STUFF.
JUST DO WE BOUNCE THESE IDEAS OFF OF JUST TO GET INPUT OR NO, I DON'T PERSONALLY.
THIS IS MORE LIKE WHAT, LIKE FOR CAMERON TWO 11, THIS IS SO I, I, THERE WAS, THERE
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WAS AN IMMEDIATE, LIKE 2, 3, 4 SEEMS LIKE TRANSACTIONS THAT WERE HAPPENING.AS SOON AS THE IDEAS CAME OUT, THAT WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH SOMETHING CHAMBER WAS ON BOARD, HEAVILY SUPPORTED THIS, AND THEN YOU HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS KIND OF POP AROUND TOWN.
AND, UH, AND I WAS JUST SAYING, ARE WE VETTING OR ARE WE VETTING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NO, JUST WHAT, WHAT ARE THEIR THOUGHTS HERE? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S ALSO ATTRACTING PEOPLE TO WANT TO BE DOWN HERE AND SPENDING DOLLARS ON.
THEY'RE ALL I'M ON OUR OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE, ALL THE NEW PEOPLE COMING IN, AS WELL AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, THEY'RE GIVING A LOT OF FEEDBACK.
BUT DURING THE REVIEW OF THE PLANS ARE ASKING FOR PARKING OFF THE ALLEY, UM, CAUSE THAT IS A SPACE WHERE THEY COULD HAVE HEAD IN WHERE IT'S EASIER.
SO THAT THAT'S ONE THING WE'VE LOOKED AT.
I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK THE CONSENSUS IS PARKING'S THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN RIGHT NOW? I KNOW, I THINK THE PARK'S GREAT AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO DEFINITELY ADD TO THE AREA, UH, BUT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S JUST AN INCREASE IN PARKING SOMEWHERE IN AN OLD TOWN.
SO WE'RE GOING TO WORKING THROUGH THAT NOW.
AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THE OLD TOWN PLAN.
SO THAT SHOULD BE FINISHED IN A FEW MONTHS, THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION BACK.
I KNOW WE HAD AT LEAST, I THINK ONE OF THE, THE DEVELOPERS THAT HAD ASKED COULD THIS BE USED IN AN INTERIM USE FOR PARKING? AND I THINK WE SAID TO GO AHEAD AND YES.
GET YOUR INPUT THROUGH THE COMMITTEE.
UM, ONE THOUGHT WE KIND OF GENERALLY HAD NOT, UH, I WOULD ASSUME THAT, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT IN THE STUDY AS WELL AS COULD YOU PUT A PARKING DECK OUT HERE IF CITY HALL IS NOT COMING HERE AND THESE BUILDINGS GET REPURPOSED, COULD YOU DO A SINGLE LAYER DECK ON THE EXISTING, UM, AND POSSIBLY USE SOME OF THE FUNDS, UH, IN THE FUTURE FROM CAP METRO AS PART OF A PARKING INTERCEPT, WHAT I GUESS WHERE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND CAUSE THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL DESIGN.
UM, BUT GOING BACK TO THE RETREAT AND THE TREATS, BECAUSE AT THE TIME IT WAS 1.2 MILLION, RIGHT? THAT IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE JUST NEED TO SCRAP THIS.
IS THERE ANY WAY FOR US TO PUT A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND IN THIS AND JUST MAKE IT NICER, BUT MAKE IT SOMEWHAT TEMPORARY BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO PROBABLY REPURPOSE THAT PIECE OF LAND.
AND ALTHOUGH I LOVE THIS ON ONE HAND, I'M GOING, YEAH, BUT IT'S STILL A MILLION BUCKS FOR SOMETHING THAT'S PROBABLY GOING AGAIN TO EITHER A PARKING LOT OR PART OF A BUILDING HERE IN A FEW YEARS.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY STRUGGLE.
THIS DESIGN IS BEAUTIFUL, BUT I JUST, I DON'T KNOW.
WELL, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS THE PARKING DECK ON WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT OVER THE EXISTING PARKING LOT OVER THE EXISTING RIGHT HERE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, NOT IN LIEU OF EITHER, EITHER HERE OR EVEN A SCENARIO, IF THE EMS BUILDING WENT AWAY AND YOU HAD SOMETHING TO THE REAR.
SO THERE, THERE MAY BE WITH, WITH THE CAPITAL METRO, UH, REBATES.
THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER POSSIBILITY ON, ON BUILDING UP THE PARKING, BUT NOT TO THE POINT THAT THE SCALE OF A SINGLE LAYER DECK IS A LOT CHEAPER PER SPACE THAN A MULTI LEVEL STRUCTURE.
PLUS IT WOULDN'T OVERWHELM THE, THE AREA, OBVIOUSLY DURING THE DAY, YOU'D HAVE MORE PARKING THAN YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW.
ALSO FOR CUSTOMERS YOU'D HAVE, YOU'D HAVE SHADED PARKING, MAYBE ON THE BOTTOM LEVEL, PLUS IN THE EVENINGS, YOU'D HAVE DOUBLE THE SUPPLY WITHOUT NECESSARILY AGAIN, OVERWHELMING THE WHOLE SITE.
SO JUST A THOUGHT, BUT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE FEASIBLE AT LEAST TO LOOK AT.
DO WE KNOW IF THAT PARKING LOT HAS ENOUGH WIDTH TO ACCOMMODATE THAT? THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT'S WHERE THE EMS BUILDING WOULD ALSO NEED TO BE POSSIBLE.
SO WE DO HAVE A SUB ON THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN THAT DOES, DOES PARKING GARAGES AND THEY'RE EVALUATING THAT.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO HELP US FIGURE OUT, LIKE, IF IT'S EVEN A POSSIBILITY, THANK YOU.
WHEN IS THAT SUPPOSED TO COME BACK? UM, IT WAS A SIX MONTH PROJECT.
SO I THINK IT'S THE END OF THE SUMMER.
IT MIGHT BE SEPTEMBER ISH, BUT YEAH, NOT TOO BAD.
WE HAVE A MEETING, UM, AUGUST AND OPEN HOUSE CHARRETTE, SO, OKAY.
I THINK, AND COUNCILMAN ROSS, I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, THAT THAT REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T THE DIRECTION FROM THIS BODY BACK IN JANUARY, BUT IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE NEED TO CANCEL NOW.
I MEAN, IF THAT'S YOUR, THE FEELING OF THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO CONTINUE DOWN THAT ROAD.
WE'VE, WE'VE GONE DOWN THIS ROAD A LOT WITH A LOT OF EFFORT WITH A STAFF AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT I ALSO THINK THIS IS, UM, A SPOT THAT'S NOT ONLY HISTORICAL TO THE, TO THE, AND OUR OLD TOWN AREA, BUT IT'S ALSO, UH, A CENTRAL PIECE TO WRAPPING EVERYTHING ELSE.
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HERE OVER THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS.BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY HERE TO KEEP THAT AS A PARK, AN AREA THAT WILL BE CRITICAL FOR ALL THE FUTURE BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS, ANYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS DOWN HERE? SO OBVIOUSLY I'M IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD ON, I KNOW IT'S A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT, UM, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT IT WILL DRAW TO THIS AREA RATHER THAN A PARKING GARAGE OR JUST PAVING IT OVER AND ASPHALT.
SO I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
AND I DON'T, AND I THINK THERE DOES NEED TO BE SOME GREEN SPACE DOWN HERE.
YEAH, NO DOUBT WHERE I'M COMING FROM IS I KNOW IN SOME OF THE PLANS WITH OUR FACILITIES ARE LIKE, HEY, WE MAY NEED TO BUST OUT THE WALL.
AND HERE'S A SCENARIO OF MAKING THIS SWITCH, EATS UP SOME OF THAT AREA.
SO IT GETS SMALLER AND I'M LIKE, DO WE, DO WE WAIT AND KNOW WHAT THAT ALL, ALTHOUGH I'M HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE CHAMBER AND THEN KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO THAT SPACE TO MAKE IT A MUCH BETTER PLACE FOR THE FESTIVALS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M LIKE, IF I'M, IF I'M USING CITY RESOURCES, DO I NEED TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT DOES MAKE IT BETTER? RIGHT.
BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A DEAL TILL I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT SQUARE, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT THE ROADS ARE GOING TO BE LIKE, WE KNOW HOW MUCH SPACE WE HAVE FOR THAT PARK TO BE, AND THEN DO A BANG UP JOB WITH IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO DO SOME OF THAT NOW AND WE CAN SQUISH IT ALL IN IF THE AREA GETS SMALLER.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING SOMETHING, SPENDING THE MONEY.
AND THEN ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS WE'RE GOING DANG.
NOW WE GOT TO REDO IT ALL THAT SMALL ONLY POINT, A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK.
UM, SO I THINK THERE THERE'S, CAUSE I'M HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS WELL.
UM, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE.
I AGREE WITH THE HISTORICAL COMPONENT AS WELL, TOO.
UM, THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A FOCAL PLACE FOR EVERYBODY TO FEEL, BE ABLE TO BE, UM, I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO LIKE, WAIT UNTIL THE END OF YOUR, THE STUDY CAME BACK TO MAKE A PERMANENT DECISION ON THAT RATHER THAN THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF SCRAPPING THE WHOLE THING.
I THINK THIS WAS A VERY INTENTIONAL THING THAT THIS NEEDED TO BE A PLACE TO GATHER.
AND I THINK THE ONE FOCAL POINT WAS THAT THIS COUNCIL DID EXCEPT FOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MCDONALD IS NOT HERE, WAS NOT HERE YET, BUT IT WAS THE ONE THING WE DID AGREE ON WAS THAT CITY HALL SHOULD BE MOVED AT SOME 0.1 WAY OR ANOTHER.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF.
AND I THINK THIS IS, UM, IF, IF IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE MOVED FOR SURE.
AND WE WERE GOING TO BUILD CITY HALL AND EXPAND IT.
WE MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT SITUATION HERE BECAUSE OF THE LAND THAT'S NEEDED.
UM, BUT WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE HAD ALL SAID THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THAT CITY HALL IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE MOVED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, WHETHER THAT'S, UH, WHATEVER WE CALLED THE OPEN FIELD AND THEN, OR THE, IN THE, IN THE NEW GREENFIELD RIGHT OPEN FIELD IN THE GREENFIELD, I HAVE TO DEAL WITH FIELDS TOO MUCH.
UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S EVEN MORE REASON WHY WE NEEDED TO REALLY PRESERVE THIS AREA AS IT IS.
UM, AND I WOULD BE OKAY WITH ABSOLUTELY EATING INTO PART OF IT FOR PARKING, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE NUMBER ONE, BUT NOT SCRAPPING THE IDEA.
HOLDING OFF ON THE IDEA FOR A MONTH OR TWO, WHATEVER IT IS, MONTH AND A HALF UNTIL YOU GET ANY MORE FEEDBACK THERE.
BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE COMPROMISE THERE AND NOT GOING AWAY FOR IT.
CAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU NEED IS AN ANSWER ABOUT, ARE WE MOVING FORWARD OR ARE WE NOT MOVING FORWARD? AND, UM, TO BE, TO BE SUPER CLEAR ON IT, IT JUST, IT'S REALLY DISTRACTING TO GO 1.2 MILLION BUCKS WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT THIS AND ALL THE THINGS WE SAID, YES, THIS WOULD BE AWESOME.
AND THEN TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT, IT'S LIKE SOMEBODY WHO, UH, YOU KNOW, WHO'S BUYING A HOUSE FROM US RIGHT NOW AND THEY COME BACK SIX MONTHS LATER AND THE HOME COST WAY MORE OR WHAT THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN BEFORE.
SO I'M LIKE EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT, RIGHT.
WITHOUT GETTING, I'M NOT AN EMOTIONAL PERSON, BUT I'M GETTING EMOTIONAL ABOUT LIKE, MAN, THIS IS WHAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN.
CAN I STILL JUSTIFY THE SAME AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THERE FOR THAT? SO LET'S, LET'S, LET'S BE SMART ABOUT IT.
I THINK WE HAVE SOME TIME IN THE BIDDING PROCESS.
RIGHT? CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT DELAY FOR WHOLE TOWN CHRISTMAS.
SO I THINK WE DO HAVE THAT MONTH TO SPARE BASED ON YOUR TIMELINE.
AND BY ALL MEANS WE CAN AFFORD TO WAIT UNTIL ROBIN HAS HER PLAN.
I MEAN, OUR MAIN GOAL OF COURSE, IS TO PROVIDE SOMETHING FOR THE CITY AND ITS CITIZENS, BUT WE'RE NOT UNDER THE GUN TO HAVE IT RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW.
AND IF IT'S IMPORTANT AND IT'S BEST IN ITS DEEM BEST WE CAN WAIT A MONTH OR TWO, BUT YOU'RE QUITE CORRECT.
EVEN THOUGH INFLATION IS STARTING TO SLOW THINGS DOWN, WE'RE STILL AT HISTORICALLY HIGH.
I DON'T, I DON'T SEE LIKE A HUGE IT'S YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THE SAME INCREASES THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, AS FAR AS THAT STUFF GOES, BUT YOU'RE ALSO NOT GOING TO SEE A BIG DROP IN LUMBER PRICES OR WHATEVER ELSE OR ANY OF THESE OTHER MATERIALS.
SO IF WE DID WAIT UNTIL WE GET THESE NEXT COUPLE OF THINGS IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, JUST TO CONFIRM EVERYTHING, WOULD THAT DELAY BEING ABLE TO CONSTRUCT BETWEEN JANUARY AND MAY? I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR WEEKS WE CAN PLAY WITH
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IN THERE.SO IF WE HAVE THAT TIME TO GET TOWARDS THE END OF AUGUST, BRIDGET COMING TO HUNT ME DOWN.
BUT, UM, I THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IN THERE.
I WAS GOING TO SAY BRIDGET, AND I'VE HAD DISCUSSION THIS WEEK.
SHE'S FULLY AWARE, VERY MUCH PREPARED AND UH, LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES AND THINGS FOR NOW, FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
UM, I HAD A COUPLE OF, OF THOUGHTS ON THIS, UM, ON THE SHADE STRUCTURE OVER THE STAGE, ARE WE THINKING SOMETHING THAT IS JUST OVER THE STAGE OR ARE WE HAVING IT DONE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE SUN IS AND WHAT'S THE BEST ANGLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SH THE STAGE ITSELF IS ACTUALLY SHADED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? CAUSE IT DOESN'T SHADE DIRECTLY DOWN.
IT IS DESIGNED TO SHADE THE STAGE, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE ASTHMA OF THE DAY AND THE YEARS, THE SHADE ROTATES, SOME CHANGES.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THAT PIECE GOES OUT TO BID, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
UM, I'VE DEALT WITH SOME OF THESE LARGE INDUSTRIAL SHADES BEFORE AND NOT EVERY VENDOR DOES THAT.
SOMETIMES IT'S JUST, ALL RIGHT, WHAT'S YOUR SQUARE FOOTAGE.
UM, SO JUST SO LONG AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, AND THEN THE ALTERNATIVE ITEMS, THE SEATING, THE BOCCE BALL COURT, BENCHES PLANTERS, UM, WHAT STRIKES ME ABOUT IT IS THAT, UM, THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE A LOT OF TIMES THAT ARE DONE BY LIKE OLDER SCOUTS, LIKE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO GET THEIR EAGLE SCOUT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND WE GET REACHED OUT TO ALL THE TIME, UM, FOR KIDS THAT ARE DOING GOLD OR EAGLE SCOUT PROJECTS, AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IDEAS OF THINGS THEY CAN DO.
SO, UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING THEM, BUT I THINK WE COULD SAVE SOME MONEY AND DO SOME GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
IF WE KIND OF JUST HAD THEM ON A PROJECT LIST FOR WHEN THOSE KIDS REACH OUT TO US, LIKE WE NEED SEATING AND BENCHES AND PLANTERS, PLEASE COME DO THIS.
SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO RESERVE THE SPACE.
AND DOES THAT SOUND GOOD IF THERE'S A WONDERFUL IDEA? ALL RIGHT.
SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT START AND I THINK WE'RE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH WAITING UNTIL WE HEAR WHAT THE, THE OLD TEMP PLAN LOOKS LIKE.
BEFORE WE DISRUPTED THE CIRCLE AREA THAT WAS GOING TO HOUSE THE WATER TOWER AND COULD BE A FUTURE WATER TOWER.
WHAT IS THAT LIKE? WHAT'S THE SURFACE LIKE RIGHT NOW? LIKE IF IT'S AN N THAT'S GOING TO BE PAVERS.
SO IN THIS CASE, ONCE THEY NEED TO COME IN AND PUT FOUNDATIONS FOR THIS WATER TOWER, THEY CAN TAKE THE PAVERS UP, DO THAT WORK AND PUT IT BACK.
SO IT'S MORE OF A FLEXIBLE SURFACE AND NOT TEARING UP CONCRETE.
AND THEN, UM, THE, AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SHADE STRUCTURE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S REMOVABLE? IT IS RETRACTABLE, SO THEY CAN PULL THAT BACK WITH THE CHRISTMAS TREE ON TEMPORARY CHRISTMAS TREE ON THE OTHER ONE, IF OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US? UH, NO.
MA'AM BUT I'M ALWAYS AT YOUR DISPOSAL FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE IN THE MIDDLE OF WEEK.
SO WITH NOTHING ELSE, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN.
OUR WORKING ARE WORKING OUR BRIEFING WORKSHOP AT 6:33 PM.
PLEASE BE BACK AT SEVEN O'CLOCK FOR OUR REGULAR MEETING.
[4. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.]
GOOD EVENING.AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
NEXT WE'LL BE PROVIDING OUR INVOCATION.
PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FATHER IN HEAVEN.
WE COME BEFORE YOU A GRATEFUL CITY AND A HUMBLE CITY, UM, THAT JUST WANTS TO MAKE YOU SMILE.
SO WE JUST, UM, WE, UH, WE CALL FORTH RIGHTEOUSNESS AND JUSTICE AS WE GO ABOUT BUSINESS TONIGHT AND LEADING THE CITY FORWARD.
UH, WE ASKED FOR A BLESSING LORD OVER THE CITY STAFF RESIDENTS AND THIS COUNCIL, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER, UM, TO CREATE THE BEST LANDER AS POSSIBLE.
AND WE WANT TO GLORIFY YOU AS WE'RE DOING THAT.
WE PRAY FOR PRECIPITATION AND FOR A SUPERNATURAL HELP, UM, LORD TO, UH, TO COOL THE AREA DOWN AND TO BRING PROSPERITY BACK TO THE CITY INTO THIS REGION.
SO THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR FATHER.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING US, UM, FOR THANK YOU FOR CALLING THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS.
AND, UH, WE JUST CALL FORTH, CALL FORTH, UH, THIS NEXT GENERATION.
UM, LORD, AS, AS WE'RE LEARNING TO LEAVE THE CITY FOR OUR, WE CALL FORTH THIS, THIS, UH, NEXT GENERATION, OR TO BE A, UM, JUST A GROUP IN A, IN A, IN A BODY LORD THAT JUST GLORIFIES YOU IN ALL OF THEIR ACTIONS.
SO WE JUST SAY, THANK YOU, WE HONOR YOU, AND WE PRAISE YOU IN JESUS NAME, AMEN FROM AMERICA, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE
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WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR, THE TEXAS FLAG.I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE STATE UNDER OD ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
[5. Roll Call.]
CITY, SECRETARY HENNEBERGER.WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER, BATTALION PARKER, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEW.
HERE THEY WERE MCDONALD'S HERE.
MAYOR PRO TEM THOMPSON COUNCIL MEMBERS LEARNING HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS HERE, AND MAYOR CHRISTINE HERE AT QUORUM IS PRESENT IN THE CITY IS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS.
[6. Public comments on items not listed in the agenda. Public comments on items listed in the agenda will be heard at the time each item is discussed by Council. [All comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual.]]
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO NON-AGENDA ITEM, PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.I WILL CALL ON SPEAKERS PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED COMMENTS VIA THE WEBSITE WILL ONLY HAVE POSITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD.
ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL AND WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT PUBLIC COMMENTS IS NOT A TIME FOR BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION.
SIMPLY A TIME FOR YOU TO TALK TO US.
AND, UH, WE CAN ALWAYS SET YOU UP WITH CITY STAFF.
I HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TONIGHT AND THAT IS BILL TURNER.
MR. TURNER, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UH, BILL TURNER, 600 MISFIRES SPRINGS COME TO YOU'RE REPRESENTING OAK CREEK HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
AND THE ISSUE IS, UM, IS DRAINAGE ALONG SAN GABRIEL, WHO WHO'D EVER HEARD OF THAT.
UM, SO THE, UH, QUICK AND, AND, UM, JUST A QUICK REMARK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE SUPPORT TO SEE HAS GIVEN US OVER THE YEARS, TRYING TO MAKE THIS PROBLEM GO AWAY.
THE STAFF, DO YOU NELSON DAN
THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR FOR HEARING OUT THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE RESIDENTS FOR COMMISSIONING THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE AT NO SMALL EXPENSE TO QUANTIFY THE PROBLEM.
SO BASED UPON THAT STUDY, IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE'S NO SOLUTION PRESENTED.
THAT WAS A REASONABLE, REASONABLE THING TO DO.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO PURSUE THAT AS A HOMELESS ASSOCIATION.
I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE, ANY OF THE, THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO DO THAT.
UM, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, WHEN SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY GETS WIDENED, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIX THAT PROBLEM AND THAT SMALL OR NO EXTRA COST, IT'LL BE A WHILE AND PEOPLE HAVE TO PUT UP, UH, WHAT YARDS, BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WIDEN AND SAN GABRIEL WILL PROBABLY BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIX THAT AT NO, NO ADDITIONAL COST OR MINIMAL MAP.
UM, AND I, YOU KNOW, WE'D BE GLAD TO WORK WITH THE CITY PLANNERS AND THE TIME COMES IN AND STAFF WHEN THE TIME COMES.
UM, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE MS. MAYER.
I JUST WANNA, I THINK IT'S TIME TO COME OUT IN PUBLIC AND ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR SUPPORT AND WANTING TO DO THAT TONIGHT.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHED TO SPEAK?
[7. Staff Reports Water Update]
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, STAFF REPORTS AND HAVE A PUBLIC WORKS UPDATE WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR ELLISON.THIS IS THE MONTHLY UPDATE TO, UM, WATER USAGE FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE, AS WELL AS OUR CONNECTION GROWTH.
AND THEN SOME OF OUR CONSERVATION, UM, ITEMS AND UPDATE SINCE, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.
THE LAKES ARE, ARE LOW AND DROPPING.
IT'S HOT, DRY, UM, NO RAIN IN SIGHT KIND OF THING.
UM, THEY'VE DROPPED ABOUT 19% FROM LAST YEAR COMBINED AND ABOUT 5% FROM LAST MONTH.
UM, LCRA SINCE DAILY UPDATES ON THIS AND, UH, THE LAKE TRAVIS HAS ITSELF NOT BUCKHANNON, BUT LIKE TRAVIS HAS DROPPED, UM, STOPPING ABOUT A FOOT A WEEK.
SO IT'S, UM, IT'S NO RAIN IN SIGHT.
SO CONSERVATION IS EVER EVER MORE IMPORTANT AT THIS POINT, OUR, OUR DAILY USAGE, UM, AGAIN, BIG, BIG GAP.
SO, UM, THIS BLUE LINE IS OUR JUNE, 2022, AND THIS IS JUNE OF 2021.
UH, AND THIS LINE RIGHT HERE IS THE MONTH PRIOR IN THE MONTH OF MAY.
SO FROM JUNE TO JUNE, WE DID OVER ALMOST 200 MILLION GALLONS MORE, UM, WITH A PEAK DAY OF 18.53, AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, WE STAYED REAL CLOSE TO THIS 18 FOR SEVERAL DAYS IN A ROW.
UM, LAST YEAR, OUR PEAK WAS ONLY 12.
UH, OF COURSE WE DIDN'T SELL AS MUCH WHOLESALE WATER, SO THAT, THAT DOES FACTOR INTO IT.
AND THEN LAST MONTH, OUR, UM, PEAK DAY WAS ALMOST 17 MILLION GALLONS.
UM, AND THIS OF COURSE HAS BEEN OUR PEAK FOR THE YEAR AT 18.53, EXCEPT FOR
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LAST YESTERDAY, WHICH IS JULY.UM, I SHOW THIS GRAPH TO SHOW THE SPLIT BETWEEN OUR TWO PLANTS.
UM, THIS IS THE DAY-TO-DAY USAGE WITH THE GREEN, UM, THE PRODUCTION FROM OUR
SO IT'S STILL ABOUT THAT 60, 40 SPLIT, AS I ALWAYS MENTIONED.
UM, BCRA AVERAGED ABOUT 9.4 MILLION GALLONS, UH, FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE AND SANDY, EXCUSE ME, SANDY CREEK.
SO TOGETHER WE WERE RIGHT AROUND THAT 15, UM, 15 MILLION MARK AVERAGE FOR THE MONTH, WHICH IS UP, YOU'LL SEE FROM RIGHT THERE.
WE ONLY AVERAGE ABOUT NINE LAST YEAR.
SO, UM, A BIG JUMP, BUT AGAIN, THE, THE WEATHER IS, IS A HUGE FACTOR, ALMOST 10 DEGREES HOTTER, UH, THIS JUNE THAN LAST JUNE.
UM, THIS IS ABOUT 63% OF OUR PRODUCTION CAPACITY ON AVERAGE, UM, FROM DAY TO DAY.
SO, AND THEN I ALWAYS ALWAYS POINT OUT THE DIFFERENCE THAT A LITTLE BIT OF RAIN MAKES WE DROPPED FROM ABOUT 18 MILLION TO DOWN TO 12 MILLION, SO SIX, AND THAT WASN'T MUCH RAIN.
IT WAS LIKE LESS THAN AN INCH.
I THINK WE'RE RIGHT AROUND AN INCH, OUR CONNECTION GROWTH, NOT AS, NOT AS BAD AS LAST MONTH, UM, NOT AS BAD AS LAST YEAR.
WE WERE 17%, UM, JUNE TO JUNE, UH, FROM 20 TO 21.
AND THEN ABOUT 14% OR 13.7 FROM 2021 TO 2022 AS A EQUATES TO ABOUT 3,300 CONNECTIONS.
UM, SOME OF OUR OUTREACH THAT WE'VE DONE, I MENTIONED LAST MEETING.
WE HAD A COUPLE OF HOA MEETINGS LINED UP, SO WE HELD OUR, UM, OR WE ATTENDED THE GREAT LIT HOA MEETING ON JULY 12TH.
WE HAVE THE TREVISO HOA MEETINGS SCHEDULED FOR JULY 28TH, UM, WHERE WE'RE PLANNING TO ATTEND.
UM, MIKE KNEW A PIO STAFF WAS ONLINE ALONG WITH MYSELF, UM, KENLEY AND OF COURSE, BILL TEETER.
SO BILL'S CONTINUING TO REACH OUT TO THESE KIND OF LARGE GROUPS, LARGE ORGANIZATIONS WITH LARGE SYSTEMS, 70 ZONES, 80 ZONES, REALLY BIG, UM, THAT CAN MAKE GOOD IMPACTS, UH, PROPERTY MANAGERS, THOSE TYPES OF PEOPLE.
UM, HE MET WITH THE TREVISO IRRIGATOR, UM, IN THE TWO WEEKS SINCE I TALKED TO YOU LAST, SO HE'S PRETTY HAPPY WITH THEIR SYSTEM.
SO, UM, THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
UH, WE'VE FINISHING UP VISITING OUR, OUR SITES.
UM, HE'S VISITED THE PARK SITE AND MOST OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS SITES, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS, UH, STARTING TO PASS ALONG SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, WE GET CITIZENS CALLING IN, HEY, MY NEIGHBOR'S WATER'S RUNNING DOWN THE STREET, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO THEY'RE REPORTING IT TO CODE CODES, PASSING IT ALONG TO BILL, AND HE'S REACHING OUT TO THOSE FOLKS AND SOMETIMES PHYSICALLY VISITING THEIR SITE.
AND HE'S HAD A REALLY GOOD RESPONSE.
THEY'VE BEEN VERY AMICABLE AND VERY WILLING TO CHANGE THEIR, YOU KNOW, DAYS AND TIMES AND LOOKING AT THEIR SYSTEMS. UM, AND THEN IF IT DOESN'T GET RESOLVED, THEN IT'LL GO BACK TO CODE ENFORCEMENT AT THAT POINT.
UM, HE'S REALLY WORKING ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA MESSAGING.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET A MESSAGE OUT ONE TO TWO TIMES A WEEK.
UM, THIS WEEK WAS THE LCRA REBATES.
UM, AND SO HE'S WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, WRITE-UPS ON MORE MATERIAL AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
HE ALSO ORDERED, UM, PAMPHLETS AND LITERATURE THAT WE CAN LEAVE IN OUR LOBBIES, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO WE'LL SEE HOW THOSE GO OVER AS WELL.
UM, ONE THING WE ALSO WANT TO START, AND THEY POSTED THIS TODAY ON OUR CITY WEBSITE WITH SOME OF THE DROUGHT, UM, INFORMATION AND START GETTING THAT OUT.
IT'S NOT JUST WATER IT'S, YOU KNOW, WILDFIRES AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO START PUSHING THIS MESSAGE.
CAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, LIKE OUR SISTER CITIES ARE ALSO GOING TO ONE AND TWO DAYS A WEEK.
I THINK THE MORE PEOPLE SEE THAT IT'S A REGIONAL THING IT'LL IT'LL REALLY HELP, UM, HELP THE MESSAGE.
SO, UM, LCRA INSTITUTED THEIR DROUGHT RESPONSE STAGE ON JULY 2ND, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY WON'T RELEASE WATER TO THE FARMERS FOR THE SECOND GROWING SEASON.
AND THEY'VE ASKED ALL THE CITIES TO REDUCE THEIR CONSUMPTION BY 5%.
SO IN THESE, I REALLY WANTED TO SHOW, SO THIS IS A YEAR AGO, THIS IS SIX MONTHS AGO, AND THEN THIS IS CURRENT.
SO JUST HOW QUICKLY WE CAN GO FROM, FROM OKAY TO NOT OKAY.
AND THEN THIS ONE WAS PUT OUT THIS WEEK AS WELL, SHOWING THE WEATHER PATTERN FOR THIS WEEK AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE IN THE EYE OF A HURRICANE WITH NO RAIN INSIGHTS.
SO, UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING I HAD WAS THE TIERED RATES.
UM, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE STILL TRACKING THE DATA.
WE'RE STILL NOT SEEING A BIG, UM, DETERRENCE BASED ON THE TIERED RATES.
WE SAW, UM, THESE TWO TIERS, TWO AND THREE EQUATE TO ABOUT 22%.
AND THEN WE SAW THIS USAGE OF THOSE TWO GROUPS RIGHT AROUND THAT 50% MARK.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TRACK IT AND KIND OF SEE HOW, HOW THINGS ARE, ARE RESPONDING.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAD AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
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THANK YOU, COUNSEL.I HAVE ONE QUESTION WHEN YOU REFER TO THE FARMERS, IS THAT THE RICE FARMERS AROUND SOUTH? YES.
MA'AM WHERE THEY RELEASED THE WATER CERTAIN TIMES A YEAR.
SO IT, IT DEPENDS ON THE ACRE FOOTAGE OF THE LAKES.
SO NO ONE WILL DO WITHOUT WATER FOR THE FARMERS TO GET WATER AND RIGHT AS ALL UNTREATED WATER IT'S ACTIVE, RELEASED FROM THE LAKE RIGHT.
SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS THE RESULT OF THEIR, WHEN THEY REVAMPED THEIR PLAN WAS THEY DID THAT RIGHT AROUND THAT 20 11, 20 13 MARKETS.
SO WHEN, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE THEY RELEASE WATER? DO YOU KNOW? THEY DID IT FOR THE FIRST GROWING SEASON.
UM, BUT I THINK SINCE THEY, UH, UM, AND WHEN IS THAT? UH, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY'RE PROBING SAY THAT'S OKAY.
I'M NOT A FARMER IT'S BEEN RELEASED THIS YEAR, BUT JUST NOT FOR THIS SECOND SEASON, WE STOOD AT THEIR FIRST MARK AND I THINK I DON'T HAVE THE MAP, BUT USUALLY THAT LCRA MAP THAT I USED TO SHOW THAT HAS THE TRENDS WET OR DRY, THAT, THAT HAS THOSE LINES.
I THINK IT'S JULY, JULY 2ND IS ONE OF THE TRIGGERS.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE OTHER ONE IS.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE MARCH, BUT, UM, THEY, THEY CHECK THE LEVELS TWICE A YEAR AND THAT DETERMINES IF THEY RELEASE IT OR NOT.
I JUST CAN'T REMEMBER THE OTHER DAY.
DO YOU THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO FIND A WAY TO SHARE THIS, UM, IN THAT SOCIAL MESSAGING? SURE.
I THINK IT'S REALLY COMPELLING, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS WHERE 30% OF OUR USERS ARE CONSUMING 63% OF THE WATER OVERALL.
UM, AND I THINK PERHAPS SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN TIERS TWO AND THREE, DON'T REALIZE HOW DISPROPORTIONATE THAT USAGE IS, RIGHT? YEAH.
I CAN WORK WITH MIKE AND HIS TEAM AND TIE AND, AND WE'LL SEE HOW WE CAN PUT THIS OUT THERE.
I THINK IT'S VERY GOOD INFORMATION.
GEORGETOWN DOES A GOOD JOB OF DOING, YOU KNOW, WE AS A CITY, LIKE THIS IS A, THIS IS A TEAM THING.
SO THIS IS KIND OF HOW WE NEED TO APPROACH IT AS WELL WITH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE USED THIS MUCH OF OUR CAPACITY IN HERE COMES TO ME TO SAVE ME AND, UH, WE WILL DO THAT.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED WITH CRYSTAL FALLS, HOA GREATWOOD HOA, AND WE'VE SHARED SPECIFICALLY THIS, THIS BAR CHART WITH THEM TO DISTRIBUTE TO THEIR RESIDENTS AS COMMUNICATION.
WE HAVEN'T YET DONE JUST A SOCIAL MEDIA POST YET JUST TARGETING THIS SPECIFICALLY AS A, AS A MESSAGE, BUT IT IS PART OF OUR PLAN.
A QUICK QUESTION ON, ON THAT, ARE WE LOOKING AT, IF THERE ARE ANY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF LIKE THE TIER THREE USERS AND MAYBE DOING AN HOA MEETING WITH, UM, WE COULD PROBABLY BREAK THEM.
I WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH SEAN AND GIS JUST BECAUSE AMI, RIGHT.
WE REALLY WANT TO EMI, BUT I DON'T, THERE MIGHT BE A WAY TO TRACK IT BY ACCOUNTS AND TO TRY TO YEAH.
UM, I DON'T SEE, I DON'T KNOW ROBERT A. LITTLE BIT, CAUSE I KNOW THEY TRACK SOME OF THEIR STUFF WITH, WITH THE GIS.
SO, WELL, I WONDER TOO, IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT DATA ON THAT LEVEL, IF WE WOULD FIND EVEN SOME OF OUR NEWER DEVELOPMENTS WHERE MAYBE WHEN THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM WAS PUT IN, IT WAS SET TO WATER MORE THAN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO CHANGE THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL? THAT WAS FANTASTIC.
[8. Leander History]
RIGHT.ITEM EIGHT LEANDER HISTORY WITH OUR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.
VICE-CHAIR HOW A GOOD EVENING.
THE FIRST RELEASE IS BARCH FIRST, A GOOGLE D.
SO LAST, LAST COUNCIL MEETING WE HAD, UM, WE CELEBRATED OUR LITTLE LEAGUE, UH, LITTLE LEAGUE TEAMS, THE SEVEN AND EIGHT YEAR OLDS.
AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING SOME PICTURES FROM PREVIOUS LEANDER BASEBALL TEAMS. BASEBALL HAS BEEN A BIG DEAL IN LEANDER SINCE BEFORE HIS LEANDER, WHEN IT WAS BAGHDAD, IT WAS, IT WAS A REAL BIG DEAL.
AND THIS IS THE 1904 LEANDER BASEBALL TEAM.
THEY TRAVELED WHEREVER THE TRAIN WENT.
SO THEY WENT AND PLAYED OTHER SMALL TOWNS ALL OVER CENTRAL AND NORTH IN SOUTH TEXAS.
SO HAVING THE TRAIN HERE, IT GAVE US A LOT MORE MOBILITY THAN A LOT OF OTHER PLACES.
SO OUR BASEBALL TEAM WAS ABLE TO TRAVEL AND, UM, COMPETE AGAINST OTHER TEAMS. AND THEY DID VERY, VERY WELL.
THIS IS THE 1954 LEANDER LITTLE LEAGUE TEAM.
THIS TEAM WAS ONE HOUR AWAY, ACTUALLY ONE STRIKE AWAY FROM GOING TO THE LITTLE LEAGUE WORLD SERIES.
SO, UM, THAT TEAM WAS HIGHLY, HIGHLY COMPETITIVE.
AND, UM, A COUPLE OF THE PLAYERS FROM THAT TEAM ENDED UP BEING DRAFTED IN THE MINOR LEAGUES.
UM, MOVING ON PART OF WHAT THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION DOES AND SOMETHING THAT I DO PERSONALLY, IS COLLECT HISTORY AND CONTINUE TO COLLECT HISTORY OF, OF LEANDER.
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RECENTLY, UH, KEN SCHAFFER, WHO SIMILAR TO MY MOTHER, SHE WAS, UM, THE IN LAW, BUT SHE KEPT THE HISTORY FOR THE FAMILY.AND KEN SHAFFER WAS THE IN-LAWS AND HE KEPT THE HISTORY FOR THE PICKLE FAMILY AND HE PASSED AWAY IN DECEMBER.
AND HIS DAUGHTER, ANDREA HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH ALL OF HIS STUFF.
SHE ACTUALLY MOVED INTO HIS HOUSE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF HIS HISTORICAL STUFF OF LEANDER IN THE AREA.
AND THAT'S WHAT SHE'S CURRENTLY DOING.
AND SHE SENT ME TWO PIECES OF, OF, UH, TWO ITEMS THAT SHE HAS FOUND.
UM, WE ARE THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMISSION IS TRYING TO WORK WITH THE WILLIAMSON HISTORY MUSEUM TO GET A GRANT, TO DIGITIZE.
NONE OF OUR OLD HISTORICAL RECORDS ARE DIGITIZED OTHER THAN WHAT I PERSONALLY HAVE, AND WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO GET IT ALL COLLECTED ALL.
AND, UM, THESE, THIS PIECE AND THE NEXT PIECE, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU, OR TWO OF THE REASONS WHY WE NEED TO DO THAT.
THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PAPER HERE IS FROM 1884 AND IT'S A TAX RECEIPT.
UM, THE WHOLE TAX RECEIPT IS $17 AND 84 CENTS.
WELL, I DON'T CLEARLY DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING.
UM, I HAVE THIS, I CAN DO THIS.
YOU JUST HAVE TO BE SMARTER THAN THE POINTER.
THIS PARCEL HERE, THE 1 34, 1 0 6 C COCHRAN.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT WAS 168 ACRES.
I KNOW THAT THE ED HARMON ABOVE IT WAS A LARGER PARCEL.
AND I KNOW THAT THE JOHN CHURCH PARCEL DOWN BELOW WAS EVEN LARGER THAN THE ED HARMON.
SO WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ABOUT SIX TO 700 ACRES AND TWO HOMES AND THEIR PROPERTY TAXES ARE $17 AND 84 CENTS.
YEAH, I WISH THAT WAS MY TAX BILL NOW.
THIS PIECE OF PAPER, UM, PRIOR TO THE CURRENT, UM, STOCKS AND BONDS SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE, OUR STOCKS AND BONDS SYSTEM HAS BEEN MODIFIED OVER THE YEARS.
UM, AND WITH THE MOST SIGNIFICANT IN FOLLOWING THE CRASH IN 1928, PRIOR TO THAT SCHOOLS DID NOT DO BOND PACKAGES.
WELL, THEY SURE DIDN'T DO A BOMB PACKAGE THE WAY WE DO NOW.
BUT IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST DECADES, WE, WE DID HAVE BOND PACKAGES, BUT PRIOR TO THAT SCHOOL STOLE SOLD STOCK TO RAISE FUNDS.
AND THIS IS WHERE IN 1899 LEANDER SCHOOL WAS TRYING TO RAISE FUNDS.
AND I BELIEVE IT WAS FOR THEIR BASEBALL FIELD THAT WAS BUILT RIGHT BEHIND, RIGHT BEHIND WHERE THE ADMIN BUILDING IS.
NOW THAT USED TO BE, UM, ON THE CORNER WAS THE ORIGINAL SCHOOL THAT BURNED DOWN, UM, IN, UH, 1939, BUT RIGHT BEHIND THERE WAS THE FOOTBALL FIELD AND THE BASEBALL FIELD.
AND THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY WERE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE STOCK CERTIFICATE TO BUILD THE FIRST BASEBALL FIELD, NOT POSITIVE, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT IS.
AND THAT WAS ANDREW PORTER, PICKLE, WHO IS THE MAN THAT BUILT MY HOUSE.
AND, UH, ALSO BUILT QUITE A FEW OF THE BUILDINGS AROUND IN OLD TOWN.
SO, AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MS. HOWELL.
[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 10.INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR ELDERLY.
ANDREW STATION HAS BEEN POLLED.
UH, THE REMAINDER OF THE AGENDA ITEM WILL BE CONSIDERED AS PRESENTED.
SO COUNCIL, WE, UM, HAVE ALSO PULLED ITEM NUMBER 12, UH, TO BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS NINE THROUGH 11 AND 13 AND 14 AS AMENDED COUNCIL TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES, UNANIMOUSLY
[12. Approval of the Second Reading of an Ordinance regarding the 500 Heritage Grove Road Annexation Case 22-A-004 regarding the voluntary annexation of 44.385 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R031642 and R031640; and commonly known as 500 Heritage Grove Road, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.]
ITEM NUMBER 12 APPROVAL OF THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING THE 500 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD ANNEXATION CASE 22.MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCELS ARE 0 3 1 6 4 2 AND ARE 0 3 1 6 4 0 AND COMMONLY KNOWN AS 500 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD, LEANDER, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, UH, ROBIN GRIFFIN.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT THIS ITEM IS TABLE TILL AFTER WE REVIEWED THE ZONING REQUESTS LATER ON THE AGENDA.
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SO MUCH.SO WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL AFTER WE READ THE ZONING REQUEST LATER IN THE AGENDA, SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[15. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Comprehensive Plan Case 22-CPA-003 to amend Transportation Master Plan to change the classification of CR 267 between Kauffman Loop and Bar W Ranch Blvd from an arterial class roadway to a collector class roadway, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Comprehensive Plan Case 22-CPA-003 as described above. ]
ITEM 15, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CASE 22, CPA 0 0 3, 2 A MEN TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN TO CHANGE THE CLASSIFICATION OFUM, SO THIS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN PORTION.
UM, RIGHT NOW COUNTY ROAD 2 67 IS CLASSIFIED AS AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY.
AND THAT MEANS THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS REQUIRED TO BE A HUNDRED FEET WIDE.
UM, THIS REQUEST WAS INITIATED BY THE CITY TO REDUCE THE TYPE OF ROAD FROM AN ARTERIAL TO A COLLECTOR.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF, UM, ISSUES.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREA, THIS IS THE LARKSPUR SUBDIVISION IS ALREADY PLOTTED AND ALL THE LOTS ARE SOLD.
SO IT'D BE CHALLENGING TO GET, UM, RIGHT AWAY FROM THOSE PROPERTIES.
WE ALSO HAVE A PENDING, UM, VRW RANCH, UH, SUBDIVISION HERE.
THEY'VE STARTED THEIR PLANTING TO THE EAST, AND THIS WILL IMPACT THE LOTS COMING IN ON THE WEST SIDE.
AND THEN WE, UM, A INDIVIDUAL THAT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A PLANNING PROCESS THAT'S BEEN SCHEDULED FOR REVIEW BY THE COMMISSION SOON.
UM, THIS BEING AFFECTED BY IT.
IF WE ADD THE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY, IT MAKES THE LOTS TOO SMALL TO SUBDIVIDE.
UM, THIS REQUEST WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DURING THE JULY 14TH MEETING, AND THEY DID UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN AND I WILL CALL ON SPEAKERS WHO SUBMITTED CARDS FIRST UP IS BARCLAY WEDEMEYER.
GOOD EVENING, MR. WEDEMEYER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
OUR ADDRESS IS HOUSTON, TEXAS.
I HAVE TO BE THE LAND OWNER OF, OF RW RANCH.
AND, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY I'VE HAD TO WORK WITH THE CITY.
IT'S PROBABLY BEEN CLOSE TO 20 YEARS NOW.
I'VE BEEN HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING THROUGH THREE MAYORS.
UH, I BELIEVE, UH, RICK, YOU'RE PROBABLY THE THIRD CITY MANAGER.
I THINK WE'VE WORKED WITH AND PAGE ALL THE WAY BACK.
AND WE DID HAVE A PARTNERSHIP.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT IN PARTNERSHIP, WE CREATED A REGIONAL WASTEWATER SYSTEM TOGETHER.
WE BOUGHT THE UTILITIES UP TO BRING THE HEB.
WE'VE HAD A FANTASTIC, UH, PARTNERSHIP, UH, ALL ALONG PART OF MY CONCERN WHILE I'M NOT AGAINST THAT, IT'S A COLLECTOR.
UH, FROM THAT STANDPOINT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR 74 FEET WIDTH.
I DON'T THINK IT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION THE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME WE HAD IN THE OTHER ROADWAYS THAT ARE PLANNED, THAT ARE NOT SHOWN ON HERE.
THERE'S THE EAST WEST REBAR W RANCH COMES ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND YEARS AGO, WE WORKED WITH JOE ENGLAND AND THE CITY AND WAYNE WATSON, ET CETERA, TO BRING THAT ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO GO TO 180 3 AND THROUGH LARKSBURG.
AND THEN WE HAVE A, UH, ANOTHER ROAD THAT'S THAT YELLOW THAT GOES NORTH SOUTH THAT GOES UP TO KAUFFMAN.
AND THAT ALLEVIATED A LOT OF ALLEVIATES.
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY LOOKED AT THE WIDTH REQUIREMENT.
UH, ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THAT THE POTENTIAL, BECAUSE YOU SAW THE DEVELOPMENT ALREADY ON 2 67 ON THE WEST SIDE, OUT OF LARKSPUR, UM, THAT THE, NOT AN AMPLE ENOUGH LAND FOR THE WIDTH THAT'S REQUIRED TO DO THAT AND THEY NOT APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OR MORE.
SO IT WOULD BE ON THE SIDE WHERE I AM.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT TAKES ABOUT 190 TREES OUT.
SOME THAT ARE HERITAGE THAT HAVE BEEN TAGGED THAT ARE LARGE OAK TREES THAT ARE PROBABLY A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
IT'S KIND OF FUNNY TO REFER TO AS A JUNIPER CEDAR TREE ORNAMENTAL, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THAT OUR KIDS ARE ABOUT 60 YEARS OLD, UH, AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE REALLY PRETTY ALONE THERE.
AND SO MUCH CONCERNS ABOUT THAT BEING TAKEN AWAY AND WITHOUT THE CONSIDERATION OF THE TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE ALLEVIATED ONCE A BAR W COMES THROUGH RIGHT NOW, I THINK IT'S GIVEN A ZASTROW BASIS SHOWING THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S ON THERE, BECAUSE IT WILL BE DIVERTED WHEN YOU COME ABOUT THROUGH THE, UH, BAR DEBBIE, AND THEN THE STAMP PART THAT GOES AROUND THE NEW ANDREW SCHOOL THAT TIES INTO IT.
YOU CAN'T SEE ON HERE AND THEN THE ROAD AND THE YELLOW THAT GOES UP TO BASICALLY COMPETENT.
THAT'S BEEN PUT TOGETHER A CONCEPT PLAN, ROBIN.
I DON'T HAVE THAT TO PUT IT UP HERE.
THAT WOULD SHOW THOSE ROADWAYS.
I HAVE ONE, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TO GIVE OUT.
I KNOW I'M WAY OVER MY THREE MINUTES.
UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THE POINTER, SO I'LL JUST TALK, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE MOST TO YOUR RIGHT.
THAT'S THE BAR DEBBIE THAT COMES THROUGH THE ONE TO THE LEFT OF THAT TONS BACK THROUGH AND
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GOES BACK UP TO RONALD REAGAN AS WELL.AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER ROAD OFF OF THAT THAT RUNS UP TO KAUFFMAN LOOP.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY LOOKED AT THE IMPACT.
GOOD EVENING, MR. GUERRERO, UM, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, MR. NEW, CAN YOU PLEASE ASSIST WITH THE, YOU GOT IT.
MY NAME IS JEFF GUERRERO AND, UH, MY ADDRESS IS 5 5 0 1 WEST WILLIAM CANNON, AUSTIN, TEXAS 7 8 7 4 9.
UH, I'M HERE TO SPEAK ALONGSIDE, UH, MR. WEDEMEYER, UH, AND TO CONTINUE WHAT HE WAS EXPLAINING AS WELL.
SO THE BAR W RANCH DEVELOPMENT THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON HAS, UH, HAS AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY NETWORK, UH, IN BAR DEGREE RANCH BOULEVARD.
AS YOU CAN SEE THAT RUNS EAST AND WEST.
UH, THERE ARE TWO ADDITIONAL COLLECTOR SYSTEMS THAT ARE LABELED ON THE MAP IS STREET, UH, B AND STREET C.
UH, IT IS OUR, OUR, UM, WHAT, FROM WHAT WE CAN TELL THEM, TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN DOES NOT SEEM TO TAKE THESE, UH, COLLECTIVE ROADWAY NETWORKS INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THE RECOMMENDATION WAS ORIGINALLY PRESSED TO, TO, UH, RECOMMEND THAT, UH, UH, KINDA ROUTE 2 67 BECOME AN ARTERIAL.
UH, OUR REQUEST TO, TO COUNCIL TONIGHT IS TO POSSIBLY TABLE THIS SO THAT WE COULD, UH, UH, ASK STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT IN MORE DETAIL AND GET WITH THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT TO PERHAPS REVIEW THE, UM, THE ANALYSIS OF THESE, UH, INTERSECTIONS, UH, WITH THIS COLLECTOR SYSTEM IN MIND.
UH, AND IN ADDITION, THE, UM, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A PRECEDENT TO KEEP IT AS A SMALLER ROADWAY, A, UH, UH, A RESIDENTIAL STREET WITH A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, THERE, UH, THE, AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE MAP KIND OF ACTUALLY LOWER LEFT, UM, UH, KIND OF, UH, WORD TURNS A RIGHT AND HEADS UP TOWARDS KAUFMAN LOOP.
THERE WAS A SUBDIVISION THAT WAS RECENTLY PLANTED CALLED THE BONNET, THE BONNET TRACT, UH, THE MOST, UH, THE WIDEST RIGHT AWAY, THAT'S DEDICATED, IT'S COMING ON TO COUNTY ROAD 2 67 IS A 50 FOOT RIGHT AWAY IN THAT POSITION AS WELL.
SO WITH GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S, THAT HAS, UM, LIMITED PLACE TO, UH, TO HAPPEN ON 2 67, WE FEEL IT MIGHT BE WORTH CONSIDERING, UH, KEEPING IT AT A 50 FOOT RIGHT AWAY, AS OPPOSED TO, UH, UH, EVEN AS MUCH AS A 74.
WE'RE VERY GLAD TO HAVE IT AS A SET AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE IT REDUCED FROM AN ARTERIAL, BUT WE'RE REALLY HOPEFUL THAT IT CAN BE, UM, FURTHER REDUCED TO THAT 50 FOOT, UH, WITH HOPEFULLY SOME ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS GIVEN IF, IF THIS, UH, UH, AMENDMENT WERE TO BE TABLED FOR TIME FOR THAT TO BE REVIEWED.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS.
THANK YOU, MR. GUERRERO, WE DID NOT HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION REGARDING COMPREHENSIVE PLANK PLAN CASE 22, CPA 0 0 3 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY COUNSEL.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM STAFF, UM, THEIR COMMENTS, ROBIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT OR ROSS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT? CAN WE, IF IT, IF IT IS 50 FEET, CAN WE STILL DO THAT CENTER LANE? AND, UM, CAN YOU ADDRESS THE COMMENT, THE CITIZENS' COMMENTS ABOUT THAT OTHER ROAD IN BARR? W OH, HE'S WALKING UP HERE, I'D BROUGHT UP THE, UM, THE SINGLE FAMILY GROUP THAT WAS GOING THROUGH A PLAT THAT WOULD BE DELAYED.
I DID DOUBLE-CHECK THEIR TIMEFRAMES.
AND IF YOU DID POSTPONE IT, WE WOULD STILL MEET, UM, THE NOTICE DEADLINE.
SO I WAS OFF BY A WEEK, SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS HONING WOULD NOT AFFECT THEM.
IT WOULD NOT HURT THAT PROJECT.
I DID CHECK WITH OUR CONSULTANT, UH, JAKE GOUDA COONS TO PREPARE THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN AND THEM TRAFFIC GENERATION.
THIS WAS SUFFICIENT, SO THAT HE'S EVEN RELUCTANT TO GO TO A COLLECTOR.
HE WOULD RATHER HAVE AN ARTERIAL, BUT AT LEAST NEEDS TO HAVE THREE LANES, 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY IS ONLY ALLOWED FOR TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC.
AND IT WON'T SUPPORT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC WE'RE GENERATING THAT WILL BE OCCURRING IN THAT AREA.
SO IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE STILL NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, OR THIS IS STILL A SUGGESTION.
UM, AND WE CAN'T REDUCE THE RIGHT WAY.
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THAT'S CORRECT.AND, UM, THE OTHER ROAD THAT THEY WERE REFERRING TO IS, IS THAT NOT REDUNDANT? I KINDA GOT LOST ON THE, THE AEB STREETS AND I CAN'T, I HAVE ACCESS TO THE BAR W CONCEPT PLAN AT THE TIME WERE DOING THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
NOW THAT WILL HELP RELIEVE THE LOAD ON JUST COUNTY ROAD 2 67.
SO IT'LL DEFINITELY BE A HELP, BUT I DON'T WITHOUT STEADYING IT, I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE THAT IT WOULD PROVIDE THE NECESSARY RELIEF TO ACCOUNT FOR THE EXTRA VOLUME.
IF WE DELAYED THIS, WOULD, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO, TO GIVE US THAT ANSWER FOR THE, AND JAKE AND SEE IF HE'S GOT THE TIME AND MONEY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT? YES, SIR.
WOULD YOU HAVE TO REMODEL THAT SUB AREA? YES.
WOULD IT BE SYNCHRONY WHERE YOU RUN A SYNCHRO MODEL, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE? UH, LIABLE TO TAKE A COUPLE OF MONTHS ANYWAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO ASK YOU.
I MEAN, THIS WAS PRETTY CLEAR.
WELL, UNTIL NOW ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THIS BIG, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
THIS IS WHAT, AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, IS IT FOR THE, OF THIS BIG, IS THAT SIMPLE TERMS? YES, SIR.
I THINK HE'S ASKING FOR IT NOT TO CHANGE, BUT WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO ANY CHANGES WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY.
WE'LL HAVE 74 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY.
WE CAN LOOK AT THE DESIGN OF THE ROAD AND TRY TO MAKE EVERYTHING WE NEED TO FIT IN THAT RIGHT OF WAY AND REDUCE THE IMPACT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
SO WHAT HIS RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT WE POSTPONE AND REEVALUATE WHAT IS, AND THEN WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT'S GOOD.
THAT COULD BE A COUPLE MONTHS PROCESS FOR US.
AND IT MAY NOT, IT MAY NOT COME UP WITH THE RESULTS HE'S ASKING FOR EITHER.
AND THIS SPEAKER WAS BASICALLY, YEAH.
SPEAKERS ARE BASICALLY ASKING FOR US TO AT LEAST LOOK AT IT AND CONSIDER THAT THAT WAS YOUR GOAL.
BUT WAITING A COUPLE OF MONTHS, IS THAT GONNA MESS UP THE TIMING THAT YOU THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING? I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MONTHS ON THIS.
DID WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MONTHS? OKAY.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION.
AND A SECOND, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
SO WOULD THIS ROADWAY HAS SITS FREE AND PROPOSE TO CHANGE TO THE TWO LANES AND THE CENTER TURN LANE.
WOULD THAT MEET THE NEEDS OF THE AREA? ONCE IT'S COMPLETELY BUILT OUT, IT WOULD PROVIDE SUFFICIENT ROADWAY TO, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE THE NECESSARY TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING WITH THESE DEVELOPMENTS ALONG WITH THE OVERALL NETWORK OF ROADS.
SO NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AN MATERIAL WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT COMPRESSING THAT ONTO A THREE LANE ROADWAY INSTEAD OF FOUR LANES.
AND ACTUALLY IT'S A TWO LANE ROADWAY WITH A TURN LANE.
IT'S A REALLY, IT'S KIND OF A COMPROMISE ALREADY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AND OPPOSED PASSES FIVE TO ONE.
[16. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Subdivision Case 22-CP-003 to adopt the Borho aka Barksdale Concept Plan on one parcel of land approximately 44 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R031542; generally located north on Journey Parkway, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Subdivision Case 22-CP-003 as described above. ]
ITEM 16, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING SUBDIVISION CASE 22, CP 0 0 3, TO ADOPT THE BOREHOLE.K A BARKSDALE CONCEPT PLAN ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 44 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE AS DESCRIBED ON THE POSTED AGENDA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN FOR A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG JOURNEY PARKWAY.
UM, THE ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY WAS, UM, REVIEWED BY THE COUNCIL THIS YEAR.
I'M SORRY, LAST YEAR IT WAS DECEMBER OF 2021.
UM, THEY, UH, ARE ONE OF OUR FIRST PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING IN WITH A PHASING PLAN AS PART OF THE RESIDENTIAL.
SO THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, THIS CONCEPT PLAN INCLUDES A 25.9 ACRES OF RESIDENTIAL IN THREE AND A HALF ACRES OF PARKLAND.
UM, STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AND THE COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL DURING THEIR MEETING LAST WEEK, UM, HAVE AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANTS ALSO HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT SUBMITTED A CARD.
WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION REGARDING SUBDIVISION CASE 22, CP 0 0 3
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AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY COUNCIL MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[17. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Ordinance Case 22-OR-002 to amend the Composite Zoning Ordinance to adopt amendments to the landscape ordinance requirements to promote water conservation, and to provide for related matters; Leander, Williamson & Travis Counties, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Ordinance Case 22-OR-002 as described above. ]
ITEM 17, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ORDINANCE CASE 22 OH R 0 0 2.TO AMEND THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ADOPT AMENDMENTS TO THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS, TO PROMOTE WATER CONSERVATION AND TO PROVIDE FOR RELATED MATTERS.
LEANDER WILLIAMSON AND TRAVIS KENNY'S, TEXAS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
UM, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THESE AMENDMENTS FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, THESE AMENDMENTS ARE ADDRESSING CONCERNS ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION.
UM, THE PRIMARY AMENDMENT WE'RE MAKING IS REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF TURF GRASS FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
SO AN EXAMPLE THAT WE'VE SEEN IS, UM, ENTRANCES TO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, OR SORRY TO SUBDIVISIONS FOR.
THEY HAVE THE BIG GREEN LOTS WITH THE ENTRY FEATURES.
UM, THIS AMENDMENT WILL NOT ALLOW ALL OF IT TO BE TURF, SO WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE RIVER ROCK MULCH, CRUSH, GRANITE THINGS THAT DON'T REQUIRE WATER.
UM, ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE IS, UH, FOR COMMERCIAL PROJECTS.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE A PROJECT THAT, UM, IT'S MAYBE FOUR COMMERCIAL, LOTS ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER, THE CODE TODAY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS BOX AROUND IT WHERE YOU HAVE LANDSCAPING IN BETWEEN EACH LOT.
SO IN ESSENCE, WE'RE BUFFERING COMMERCIAL FROM COMMERCIAL.
SO WE'VE REMOVED THE REQUIREMENT FOR SHRUBS BETWEEN AND GRASPED BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.
AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A BENEFIT TO THE COMMERCIAL AND WATER CONSERVATION, CAUSE THEY'LL HAVE LESS PLANTINGS TO MAINTAIN.
THE OTHER ITEM WITH COMMERCIAL IS, UM, WHEN YOU'RE ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SCREENING WALL AND YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE TREES AND SHRUBS.
SO WE'VE REMOVED THE SHRUB REQUIREMENT CAUSE THEY DON'T BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER, UM, HELPFUL CHANGE FOR THE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS.
UM, SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'VE DONE IS UPDATED OUR DISTURBANCE ZONE REQUIREMENTS.
AND, UM, WE DID DO A PRETTY THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE ORDINANCE AND FOUND SOME OTHER INTERESTING ITEMS WE HADN'T TALKED ABOUT IN A WHILE.
SO, UM, FUEL PUMPS, WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU SCREENED THE PUMP FROM VIEW OF THE STREET, SO THAT RESULTS IN, UM, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING.
SO WE'VE REMOVED THAT REQUIREMENT BECAUSE I THINK IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE A DRIVEWAY AND THEN A BIG CLUMP OF LANDSCAPING.
AND THEN, UM, THERE, ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS THE CHRISTIANSON BROTHERS OFF OF 180 3, THEY HAVE THE SIGNIFICANT WAX MYRTLE SCREENING, THE VIEW OF THE OVERHEAD DOORS.
UM, THAT ONE WE'VE CHANGED TO SAY, IF YOU HAVE OVERHEAD DOORS FACING A ROADWAY, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO DO DECORATIVE DOORS INSTEAD OF ALL OF THE LANDSCAPING.
SO THOSE A SUMMARY OF OUR DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS AND, UM, THIS WAS REVIEWED BY THE COMMISSION.
THEY, THEY MADE A CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE, UM, WHERE THEY REQUESTED THAT WE REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF TURF PERMITTED, UM, IN PARKLAND.
SO IF YOU DISTURB A PARKLAND AREA, YOU DON'T REPLACE IT ALL WITH TURF.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVES AND I'M, I'M AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHED TO SPEAK? UH, ALL RIGHT.
UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING, OH, I SHOULD HAVE OPENED IT.
SO PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO THE ACTION REGARDING ORDINANCE CASE 22 OH R 0 0 2 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY.
UM, MS. GRIFFIN, I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE FOR YOU.
UM, I SEE ON HERE, THE LAST RED LINE IS THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING MAY ALSO APPROVE DECORATIVE OVERHEAD DOORS IN LIEU OF SCREENING.
WHEN DOORS ARE ORIENTED TOWARDS THE STREET ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS, OUR MEMBER, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE USED TO DO A LOT BACK IN THE DAY.
AND I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING IT RECENTLY.
IS THERE A WAY TO ADD IN A LINE THAT SAYS THAT WHEN SOMEBODY BRINGS A PROJECT TO YOU THAT HAS A DIFFERENT PLAN THAN NECESSARILY WHAT'S OUTLINED HERE, BUT IS SOMETHING IN LINE WITH WHAT OUR, OUR GOAL IS WITH WATER RESTRICTIONS AND, AND JUST BEING, UM, DROUGHT FRIENDLY THAT YOU COULD JUST APPROVE IT ADMINISTRATIVELY.
UM, WE HAVE PROVISIONS FOR ALTERNATIVE LANDSCAPE PLANS.
IT GIVES THE DIRECTOR OF FLEXIBILITY TO COME UP WITH DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, I COULD LOOK AT THAT SECTION AND TALK TO PAGE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE COULD ADD TO IT BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT RATING.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF US TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE ULTIMATELY WANT.
ANYTHING ELSE? SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE SUGGESTED AMENDMENT AND THANKS FOR THE WORK.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU HAD THE TIME, BUT WE LOVE YOU.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
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ALL RIGHT.[18. Discuss and consider action on the Second Reading of an Ordinance regarding Zoning Case 22-Z-012 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to adopt the 500 Heritage Grove Road PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning district of HC-4-D (Heavy Commercial) and approval of Masonry Development Agreement Case 22-DA-013 on two parcels of land approximately 44.385 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R031642 and R031640; and commonly known as 500 Heritage Grove Road, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.]
MOVING INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA.ITEM NUMBER 18, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING ZONING CASE 22 Z 0 1 2 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR, ONE B SINGLE FAMILY RULE TO ADOPT THE 500 HERITAGE GROVE PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF HC 4D, HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND APPROVAL OF MASONRY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CASE 22 D A 0 1 3 ON TWO PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 44.385 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE AS STATED ON THE PROPOSED AGENDA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE ORDINANCE, UM, DURING THE MEETING LAST WEEK, OR I'M SORRY, LAST TIME, LAST MONTH, UM, THE COUNCIL RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AND ADDED THE CONDITION THAT THERE WAS A HEIGHT LIMIT PLACED ON THE PUD.
UM, WE MET WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEY WANTED TO PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE.
THAT'S WHY THIS IS ON THE REGULAR AGENDA AT THIS TIME.
UM, THEY PROPOSED TO, UM, CHANGE THE HEIGHT LIMIT TO STATE THAT IT'S 35 FEET WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE WESTERN BOUNDARY.
SO THAT'S WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE HAVEN OAKS, SUBDIVISION IT BE 35 FEET AND THE REMAINDER COULD BE 45 FEET.
UM, THIS ITEM, WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU NOT TO TAKE ACTION AFTER YOU DISCUSS SHE'LL NEED TO TABLE IT EMILY, TO REVISIT THE ANNEXATION AND THEN MOVE ON TO THIS ITEM.
AND, UM, THE APPLICANTS HERE, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND I'M HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THANK YOU.
WE DO HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS.
UH, FIRST STEP IS ADRIAN SHARP.
GOOD EVENING, MS. SHARP, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MY NAME IS ADRIAN SHARP AND I LIVE AT 2 0 4 AMANDA'S WAY.
WILEY CREEK ESTATE IS LOCATED ALONG THE PART OF THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE OF 500 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD.
I'M HERE TO ASK THAT CITY COUNCIL ADD BUFFERING PROVISIONS FOR WILEY CREEK ESTATES.
SIMILAR TO THOSE ALLOTTED TO HAVEN NOTES.
IN THE PUD NOTES, WE SEEM TO HAVE BEEN OVERLOOKED WITH OUR PREVIOUS BUFFERING REQUESTS DURING THE EARLIER PMC AND CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
THEREFORE I AM REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING ONE SCREENING ALONG THIS SECTION OF THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE WITH AN EIGHT FOOT MASONARY WALL WITH 20 FEET OF THE PREEXISTING TREES LEFT AND FRONT TWO BUILDING HEIGHTS BE LIMITED TO 35 FEET IN HEIGHT WITHIN 200 FEET OF THIS NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
GIVING WILEY QUEEN CREEK ESTATES IS OF A LOWER ELEVATION.
I BELIEVE TO ABOUT 10 TO 20 FEET DROPS DOWN THREE TRUCK COURTS BE PROHIBITED FROM FACING THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE TO HELP DIMINISH TRUCK NOISES AND TOXIC FUMES.
WE ARE THE OLDEST OF THE THREE NEIGHBORHOODS, SO BUDDYING 500 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD, AND WE'RE HERE 30 YEARS BEFORE LEANDER BECAME THE PLACE TO BE.
WE CAME BECAUSE WE LOVED THE LAND, QUIET AND NATURE OF THE AREA.
WE REALIZE THAT EVERYTHING CHANGES AND THAT BUSINESSES AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS ARE PART OF THIS CHANGE, BUT WE ALSO BELIEVE CHANGES CAN BE MADE THOUGHTFULLY RECOGNIZING THE ENVIRONMENT THAT ALREADY EXISTS AND PRESERVING WHAT IT CAN TO LESSEN THE IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
PLEASE DON'T DISCOUNT US JUST BECAUSE WILEY CREEK IS SMALL.
WE ARE A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BUFFERING JUST LIKE HAVEN OAKS.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU, MS. SHARP UP NEXT IS ROBERT LANGER.
GOOD EVENING, MR. LANGER, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MY NAME IS ROBERT LANGER, 2 0 6 AMANDA'S WAY LEANDER 7 8, 6 41.
I'M NOT TOTALLY AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE.
WHAT I AM ASKING IS FOR Y'ALL TO CONSIDER OR RECONSIDER EXTENDING THE BUFFER ZONE ALONG THE REAR OR A NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
THIS WOULD OH, BUFFER ZONE AND SETBACKS ALONG THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
AGAIN, SIMILAR TO WHAT HAVEN OAKS HAS.
THIS WOULD ALSO INCLUDE LIMITING THE BUILDING HEIGHT TO 35 FEET WITH SOME
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DISTANCE.IT MAY OR MAY NOT NEED NECESSARILY NEED TO BE 200 FEET, BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND REQUIRE ALSO REQUIRING THAT NO TRUCK COURTS FACE THE REAR PROPERTY LINE AT SOME FENCING ALONG THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
AGAIN, BASICALLY WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE SAME CONSIDERATION THAT'S BEING GIVEN TO HAVEN OAKS.
UM, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD ENHANCE OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO USE THE BACK END OF OUR LOTS WITHOUT BEING ENCROACHED UPON BY THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S NOT ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE AND WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHED TO SPEAK OKAY.
COUNSEL, WE CAN, UH, HAVE DISCUSSION, BUT UH, NO MOTIONS YET.
TH THE OBVIOUS QUESTION IS GOING TO BE FROM WHAT WE JUST HEARD TOO, IS ANYBODY FROM THE DEVELOPER TEAM? WHAT DOES THE W WHAT, UM, BOTH HOMEOWNERS TO THE NORTH OR PROPOSE OR ASKING FOR, UM, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE PROJECT CURRENTLY? THE WAY THAT YOU SEE IT BEING BUILT OUT SO IT'S LIKE A WRINKLE FOR WHAT YOU ASKED FOR, WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
NOW THIS IS A NORTHERN SIDE BUFFER AREA.
HOW DOES THAT ENCROACH UPON WHAT WAS ALREADY A BIT? YEAH, GOOD EVENING.
JOEL'S CANE LAND DEVELOPER CONSULTANT WITH ARMREST AND BROWN.
UM, I THINK I'M WAITING ON, I'VE GOT ONE CLIENT HERE, ANOTHER CLIENT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE FINE TO APPLY THE SAME RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY, ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY, AS WELL AS WELL.
I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT WE CAN HAVE A QUICK MINUTE, BUT YEAH, THAT SEEMS TO BE, I MEAN, YOU'RE ALSO SAYING THAT SEEMS TO BE REASONABLE.
SO I, I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY MOTIONS, BUT, UH, YOU, YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON THAT TO ROBIN.
THAT'S WHAT, I JUST WANT A QUICK MINUTE TO CHECK WITH SOMEONE I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM A QUICK, OKAY.
SO WHAT WERE THE QUESTIONS DOWN? SO THE BUFFERS, OKAY.
THAT THE AREA IN BETWEEN, BUT AS FAR AS THE BUILDING HEIGHT OF WHETHER YOU NEEDED, I THINK EVEN IF IT WAS SOMETHING, IT WOULD BE, UH, I GUESS, GETTING COMFORTABLE WITH A NUMBER THERE THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, WHETHER THAT'S 200 FEET AT THE 35, AND THEN EVERYTHING IS FINE AFTER THAT, OR WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE, I MEAN, I GUESS WE JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE APPROVING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HEARING YOU.
UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THERE, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE VERY WILLING TO BE WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO, TO, TO GET EVERYTHING IN THERE, THEN I THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE REALLY GOOD RESULTS FROM EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
AND I THINK FROM A HIGH PERSPECTIVE, IT SHOULD BE GOOD.
UM, CAUSE WE'RE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS 35 FEET WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THEN PAST THE 200 FEET, IT WOULD BE ALLOWED UP TO 45, CORRECT.
OH, YOU GOT TO COME UP TO THE MIC.
I DON'T THINK IT DOES ANYTHING, BUT WE JUST WANT TO NUMBER BOATS.
WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON BUILDING BUILDINGS THAT HIGH, BUT WE MAY GET A GOOD TENANT.
LIKE FEDEX SOMETIMES WANTS TO HAVE A HIGHER BUILDER AMAZON.
UM, IN WHICH CASE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON THAT, BUT WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT 200 FEET AND THEN GO HIRE.
AND THERE WAS ALSO THE OTHER, THE OTHER PART IN THERE WAS, UM, UH, REGARDING THE, ANYTHING WITH THE TRUCK DOORS OF THE TRUCK BAYS FACING, WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT ONE ALSO THAT STAYS THE SAME STAYS THE SAME.
TH TH THE TRUCK, THE TRUCK COURTS ALL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY.
IT WON'T FACE ANY OF THAT OUTSIDE.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IF THERE'S TWO CLIENTS THAT YOU HAVE PARTNER ON THE DEAL.
HE'S OUT OF TOWN AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, JUUL JUST WANTS TO CHECK WITH HIM.
ROBIN, WE COULD TABLE THIS, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEMS AND PICK IT UP AND GIVE HER A CHANCE TO CALL HIM.
AND WHAT LOOKS LIKE A ROAD ON THE BACK OF IT THERE THAT'S RAILROAD TRACKS ARE TRACKS.
SO, UM, WHAT WOULD CURRENTLY BE, NOT AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL.
WHAT WOULD BE CURRENTLY IN THE POD? WHAT IS IT? YOU KNOW, NOTHING'S REQUIRED CAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN THE CITY, SO IT'S NOT ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
SO THERE'S NO WALL REQUIRED AT ALL? THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, FOR THE APPLICANT, ARE YOU PLANNING ON PUTTING SOME KIND OF WALL BACK THERE? MICROPHONE? SORRY.
I THINK THEY JUST SAID THEY CAN GET YOUR STEPS IN IT.
YOU ALL SAID YOU WOULD DO THE EIGHT FOOT.
SO JUST SO HAPPENS THAT THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY HAS A LOT OF TREES.
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IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY HAS LOTS OF TREES A LOT.AND WE'RE MOST LIKELY GOING TO KEEP JUST TREES THERE.
AND THEN THE OTHER PART WHERE IT GOES UP INTO THE LEFT, THAT'S GOING TO BE GRASS.
CAUSE THAT'S A RETENTION POND.
SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A BUILT-IN BUFFER IN BETWEEN THE NORTH AND WHAT WE'RE PLANNING.
WHICH I THINK WOULD HELP IF YOU LIVED ON THE NORTH SIDE.
AND I THINK TREES ARE PROBABLY BETTER THAN, THAN A WALL THAT REVERBERATES SOUND BACK WHEN THE TRAIN COMES THROUGH.
SO I THINK I'M ACTUALLY OKAY WITH NOT DOING A WALL THERE, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE SEEMS TO WORK OUT IF THE OTHER HALF OF THE TEAM ISN'T WILLING TO DO IT.
I THINK THERE'S BEAR WITH US A MINUTE.
SO WE HAVE, SO WE'LL, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND ACTION ON THIS SECOND MACHINE.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
MOVING TO ITEM 12 APPROVAL OF THE SECOND READING.
WANT TO DO THAT AFTER THIS? THAT'S THE ANNEXATION.
SO THAT NEEDS TO BE TABLED AS WELL, BECAUSE IF, BUT WE'RE JUST TABLING UNTIL OH, UNTIL SHE'S DONE ALL.
[19. Discuss and consider action on Tree Removal Case 22-CIP-TRP-004 regarding removal of Significant and Heritage Trees associated with the eastward expansion of San Gabriel Parkway from Palmera Bluff subdivision to the intersection of Ronald Reagan Boulevard generally located north of Palmera Ridge Section 9 and runs southwest of the intersection of Ronald Reagan Boulevard and current CR 274, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.]
ALL RIGHT.ITEM 19 DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ON TREE REMOVAL CASE 22 CIP T R P 0 0 4 REGARDING REMOVAL OF SIGNIFICANT INHERITED TREES ASSOCIATED WITH THE EASTWARD EXPANSION OF SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY FROM PALMYRA BLUFF SUBDIVISION TO THE INTERSECTION OF RONALD REAGAN BOULEVARD, GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF PALMYRA RIDGE SECTION NINE AND RUNS SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF RONALD REAGAN BOULEVARD AND CURRENT CR 2 7 4 LANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO THIS IS, UM, A REQUEST FROM THE CITY FOR TREE REMOVAL ALONG THE FUTURE EXPANSION OF SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY.
UM, WE HAVE FOUND THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL, UM, HERITAGE TREES THAT ARE PART OF THIS PROJECT.
AND, UM, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY CHALLENGING TO SAVE THEM WITH THE ALIGNMENT OF THE ROADWAY.
UM, THE COMMISSION DID REVIEW THIS REQUEST AND THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL AT THEIR MEETING.
UM, I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND, UH, TONY BETTIS IS ALSO HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNSEL I'LL SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[20. Discuss and consider action on a Resolution supporting the design of Brushy Creek Regional Utility Authority (BCRUA) Phase 2A, as well as construction of the BCRUA parallel raw water line and clearwell projects, and providing for related matters.]
ITEM NUMBER 20, JUST DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE DESIGN OF BRUSHY CREEK REGIONAL UTILITY AUTHORITY, BCR UI PHASE TWO A AS WELL AS CONSTRUCTION OF THE BCR UA PARALLEL RAW WATER WATERLINE AND CLEARWELL PROJECTS AND PROVIDING FOR RELATED MATTERS.GOOD EVENING, CHIEF OF STAFF, NEW GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UH, THIS RESOLUTION, UM, IS A FOLLOW-UP TO SOME PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD WITH YOU ABOUT TRYING TO MOVE THE BCRA EXPANSION FORWARD.
UM, SPECIFICALLY WE HIGHLIGHTED, UH, THREE PROJECTS DESIGN OF PHASE TWO A AND, UM, HOPEFULLY EXPEDITED DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARALLEL RAW WATER LINE, AS WELL AS THE CLEAR WALL, UH, PROJECT, WHICH IS A PORTION OF THE PHASE TWO, A, UH, SECTION OF THE EXPANSION, GETTING THESE PROJECTS, UH, MOVED FORWARD.
THIS IS KIND OF THE FIRST STEP IN ALLOWING, UH, US GETTING DIRECTION FROM YOU AS COUNCIL.
UH, WE AS STAFF, IF WE HAVE THAT DIRECTION, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE OF BCR, UAE, AND WORK WITH BCRA OFFICIALS TO START MOVING THESE PROJECTS ALONG, UH, ALL IN ALL THE EFFORT HERE IS TO GET BCRA EXPANSION, UH, QUICK AND DONE AND DONE WELL.
UM, AND, AND THIS TAKES US ANOTHER STEP FORWARD.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[21. Discuss and consider action on the amended and restated Solicitation S20-052, Pre-Qualified Engineering Consulting Services list approved by the City Council at the December 16, 2021 regular meeting.]
ITEM 21.DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ON THE AMENDED AND RESTATED SOLICITATION, S 2 0 0 5 2 PRE-QUALIFIED ENGINEERING CONSULTING SERVICES LIST APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE DECEMBER 16TH, 2021, REGULAR MEETING CITY ENGINEER, BLACK HEADER BIDDING EVENING.
WE DID, WE DID AN RFQ BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022.
WE PRE-QUALIFIED CERTAIN ENGINEERING FIRMS WHICH GOT PASSED BY COUNCIL.
HOWEVER, THERE WAS A SCRIBNER'S ERROR IN THE CHART USED FOR THAT.
IT HAD THE WRONG LOGO FOR GARZA ENGINEERING, AND WE LATER GRANTED A CONTRACT GARZA ENGINEERING BASED ON THE INCORRECT INFORMATION.
SO ALL THIS IS DOING IS CORRECTING THAT SO THAT WE CAN
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MOVE AHEAD WITH OUR CON CURRENT CONTRACT WITH GARZA EMC MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION.AND SECOND, IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[22. Discuss and consider action on Amendment 1 to Task Order GEMC-1 with GarzaEMC, in the amount of $62,925.71, increasing the cost of services from $564,137.68 to $627,063.39, for the engineering services related to the design and construction of extending new waterline into the Ridgmar neighborhood from the new RM 2243 waterline (CIP W.18); and authorize the City Manager to execute any and all necessary documents.]
I HAD A 22 DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ON AMENDMENT ONE TO TASK ORDER, G E M C ONE WITH GARZA EMC IN THE AMOUNT OF $62,925 AND 71 CENTS INCREASING THE COST OF SERVICES FROM $564,137 AND 68 CENTS TO $627,063 AND 39 CENTS FOR THE ENGINEERING SERVICES RELATED TO THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF EXISTING NEW WATER LINE INTO THE RICH NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE NEW RM 2243 WATERLINES CIP W 18 AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.WELCOME BACK CITY ENGINEER, BLACK HEADER.
YEAH, THIS WAS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THE LAST ONE TO A HEAD.
WE HIRED GARZA MC TO DESIGN A 16 INCH WATER LINE THAT RUNS ALONG 2243.
AND I WANT TO CROSS 23 8 IN THE PROCESS.
IT BECAME AWARE THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE A LOOPED WATER SYSTEM, WE WOULD NEED CONNECTED TO RICHMORE WATER.
AND THAT WAS THE COST OF THEM DOING THE DESIGN WORK FOR THE EIGHT INCH TO COMPLETE THIS WATER SYSTEM IN THAT AREA.
MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, I JUST GOT ONE CLARIFICATION.
SO THAT'S US ASKING THEM TO DO EXTRA WORK? YES.
UH, COUNCIL MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ARE WE READY? WELL, SHOULD WE DO THE ANNEXATION OR SHOULD WE REOPEN DISCUSSION ON THE ZONING? NOW YOU MAY FEEL IN A REOPEN DISCUSSION ON THE ZONING.
I'M THINKING WE NEED TO OPEN THAT.
SO WE ARE GOING TO REOPEN ITEM NUMBER OR BE 18.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING ZONING CASE 22 0 1 2 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR, ONE B SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL TO ADOPT THE 500 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF HC 4D, HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND APPROVAL OF MASONRY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CASE 22 D A 0 1 3 ON TWO PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 44.385 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE.
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCELS ARE 0 3 1 6 4 2 AND R 0 3 1 6 4 0 AND COMMONLY KNOWN AS 500 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD LAND OR WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS.
JOEL'S CANE LANE DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANT WITH ARMBRUST AND BROWN.
UM, AFTER TALKING WITH THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPER OF THE PROPERTY AND LOOKING AT ALL THE RESTRICTIONS WE AGREED TO ON THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, WITHIN THE PUD NOTES AS DRAFTED, I THINK WHAT WE'RE MOST COMFORTABLE WITH SINCE WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO CONSULT WITH ARCHITECTS IS AGREEING TO A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK.
AND WITHIN THAT A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK GOING ONLY UP TO 35 FEET, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID ALONG THE WESTERN, EXCEPT ONLY A HUNDRED FEET AS OPPOSED TO 200 FEET.
AND THEN EVERYTHING PAST A HUNDRED FEET COULD GO UP TO 45 LOOKING AT THE TOPOGRAPHY, WHICH IT'S UNFORTUNATE.
WE DON'T HAVE IT ON OUR SLIDES.
UM, BUT PULLING IT UP HERE ON MY IPAD, IT IS A VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION TO THE NORTH END THAN WHAT THERE IS TO THE WEST.
UM, I THINK, I THINK A HUNDRED FEET IS REASONABLE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE ENTIRE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE IS FINE? I MEAN, IT'S MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO BE SET BACK FURTHER THAN THAT, BUT JUST FOR COMFORT REASONS WITH, SO THERE'S, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY EXCEPT NOT WORRYING ABOUT THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE AND INSTEAD OF 200 FEET, UM, IT'S A 100 FOOT, UH, AT 35 FEET AND THEN IT CAN GO 45 AFTER THAT.
AND WE'RE KEEPING ALL THE TREES ON THE NORTH SIDE MICROPHONE.
I KNOW THEY'RE I KNOW THEY'RE ABIDING BY CODE EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT YEAH, I'LL LET JOHN SPEAK.
I CAN'T SAY WE'RE KEEPING EVERY TREE, BUT, BUT MOST OF, MOST OF THAT AREA IN THAT RIGHT HAND SIDE, WE ALL HAVE OUR SITE PLANS CALL FOR THOSE THREE STAYING THERE.
SO THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE TREES ARE GOING TO THERE.
WE'LL HAVE NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ANYTHING THERE.
SO YOU HAVE A NATURAL BUFFER ALREADY.
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YES.AND, UH, SO FAR EVERYBODY IS FEELING OKAY ABOUT THIS DISCUSSION.
YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ROBIN HAS WHAT SHE NEEDS ON CLARIFICATION WHEN WE DO MAKE THEIR MOTION IN CASE IT'S NOT CLEAR.
AND IF WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT NOW OR WHETHER WE CAN DO THAT WHEN WE'RE TAKING ACTION, I DON'T REALLY CARE.
I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU GUYS WHAT I THINK YOU'RE SAYING.
SO, UM, THE PUD NOTES REMAIN AS IS FOR THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE.
AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GOING TO APPLY THE SAME BUILDING HEIGHTS REQUIREMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE, BUT IT'S ONLY A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE NORTH AND THAT'S THE ENTIRE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST THAT ANGLE, IT'S THE WHOLE PIECE.
SO IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IF THIS LINE RIGHT HERE, THAT WHOLE THING THEN ONLY NEIGHBORS ARE, OR THEY'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE TRAIN TRACKS.
WELL, THEY ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRAIN TRACKS.
THAT'S THE WILEY NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FOR THAT PIECE.
AND THEN, UM, WE HAD THE EIGHT FOOT WALL.
AND THEN A 20 FOOT NONDISTURBANCE ZONE ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY.
THE 20 FOOT NONDISTURBANCE ZONE MIGHT BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE CURRENT PER THE TOP OF THIS MEANT, THANK YOU.
UM, THIS AREA OF THE PROPERTY LINES, IF I CAN KEEP A STEADY HAND, THAT'S ADJACENT TO WHERE THE POND IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED.
NOT AGAIN, THE PLANNING COULD CHANGE, BUT THAT'S WHERE I HAVE HESITATION ON THE 20 FOOT ON DISCERNING ZONE ALONG THE ENTIRE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
WE COULD PROBABLY DO IT ALONG THIS, JUST A PIECE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE LANGUAGE THAT IN THE NOTES, BUT MAYBE THAT'S HOW WE DO IT.
LET ME CHECK WITH JOHN, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S FINE.
I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
SO JUST ALONG THE TRACKS FOR THE 20 FEET, CORRECT.
THEN I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THE ACTION ON THIS ITEM MOTION AND SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE BACK TO ITEM 12 APPROVAL OF THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING THE 500 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD ANNEXATION CASE 22 8 0 0 4 REGARDING THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF 44.385 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE.
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT AS PARCELS ARE 0 3 1 6 4 2 AND ARE 0 3 1 6 4 0 AND COMMONLY KNOWN AS 500 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS, MOTION TO APPROVE.
ALL RIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, GOING BACK AGAIN TO ITEM 18 DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ON THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING ZONING CASE 22 0 1 TO DETERMINE THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR, ONE B SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL TO ADOPT THE 500 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF HC 4D, HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND APPROVAL OF MASONRY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CASE 22 D A 0 1 3 ON TWO PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 44.385 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE.
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT AS PARCELS ARE 0 3 1 6 4 2 AND R 0 3 1 6 4 0 AND COMMONLY KNOWN AS 500 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD, LEANDER, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS.
YOU HAVE TO SECOND IT NOW ALL SECOND AMENDMENT.
YOU CAN READ OUT THE PUD AS IS WITH THE ADDITION OF, UM, A RESTRICTION ON THE HEIGHTS WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
IT'S LIMITED TO 35 FEET IN HEIGHT.
AND THEN, UM, THERE WILL BE A NO DISTURBANCE SEWN, UM, THAT IS 20 FEET DEEP.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE IN LINE WITH THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
AND DEBORAH, ARE YOU FEELING PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THAT? WHERE LEGAL? OKAY.
THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL
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THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.[23. Discuss and consider moving the October 6, 2022 regular meeting due to the Texas Municipal League Annual Conference.]
23, DISCUSSING CONSIDER MOVING THE OCTOBER 6TH, 2022 REGULAR MEETING DUE TO THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE ANNUAL CONFERENCE.UH, IT IS CUSTOMARY IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE DONE THIS, WE'VE MOVED IT TO THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY.
UM, IS EVERYBODY AVAILABLE? TUESDAY, OCTOBER 11TH.
OH, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER DATE THAT YOU THINK WOULD MONDAY? I LET'S DO MONDAY THE 10TH, UH, IT'S DAY.
IS THAT OKAY? IT'S COLUMBUS DAY.
IS THAT OKAY? IT'S ALSO THANKSGIVING IN CANADA, BUT DO WE HAVE THAT DAY OFF? I DON'T THINK IT'S A CITY HOLIDAY.
CAMERON, WILL YOU BE HERE MR. POWERS? THAT'S NOT A CITY HOLIDAY, IS IT? NOPE.
UM, DOES THAT WORK FOR COUNCIL? AS LONG AS WE'RE SAYING, DOES IT GIVE STAFF ENOUGH TIME TO GET EVERYTHING TO US AND TIME TO REVIEW? I GUESS IT WOULD STILL BE.
CAN YOU GET IT TO US BY THURSDAY? SO TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT IT WOULD STILL BE ON THE FRIDAY BEFORE? YEAH.
PLUS, TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS ONE OF THE AGENDAS IN HERE WHEN WE MOVE THINGS ENDS UP BEING SUPER LIGHT.
SO WE MAKE UP FOR IT SOMEWHERE.
IS THAT OKAY WITH STAFF TO MOVE IT TO A MONDAY NIGHT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL DO ON MONDAY NIGHTS.
THAT SHOULD BE THE LEATHER ONE.
IF YOU HAVE A CHOICE, THAT WOULD BE THE LIGHT WHEN, RIGHT.
IF WE'RE GOOD WITH IT, THEN I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE.
WELL, TAKE A NEW PLUGIN TO FOOTBALL GAME UP THERE.
UM, I CAN DO OUR LIVE FEED ON THIS TV AND THE FOOTBALL GAME ON THIS TV.
SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE OUR MEETING TO MONDAY, OCTOBER 10TH, 2022.
SAME TIME AS USUAL, SECOND MOTION.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[24. Council Member Closing Statements.]
24.COUNCIL MEMBER CLOSING COMMENTS PLEASE.
SO IN A WELCOME OFFICER, JACK
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE THIS GREAT COMMUNITY.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING YOU SOON.
UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T CHECKED IT OUT, THE OLD TOWN COMMITTEE IS LOOKING FOR INPUT FROM EVERYONE ON WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN OLD TOWN.
SO PLEASE GO CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE.
YOU CAN GET TO IT ON THE CITY PAGE AND FILL OUT THE SURVEY PLACE FIVE, HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
AND SO IN AN EFFORT TO KEEP EVERYTHING LOCAL, UH, WE'VE BEEN HAVING OUR MEALS DONE BY LAND OR RESTAURANTS.
SO TONIGHT WE SEND A BIG THANK YOU TO DOMINOES AND JUST A REMINDER TO EVERYBODY OUT THERE.
THE ECONOMY IS SUPER TOUGH ON EVERYONE RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, PLEASE KEEP YOUR MONEY LOCAL WHEN YOU ARE EATING OUT, KEEP OUR LAND, OUR ECONOMY GOING, UM, AND JUST APPRECIATE THE BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE TOUGHING IT OUT THROUGH ALL THE INCREASED COSTS.
AND, UH, WITH THAT CONGRATULATIONS, EVERYBODY COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED AT 8:13 PM.