Jul 28, 2022 P&Z Commission

UM,

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[1. Call to Order.]

WELCOME TO THE JULY 28TH, 2022 MEETING OF THE LEANDER CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT

[2. Roll Call.]

[3. Director’s report to the Planning & Zoning Commission on actions taken by the City Council at the July 21, 2022, meeting]

GOOD EVENING.

I'M REPORTING ON ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THEIR JULY 21ST MEETING.

UM, THEY REVIEWED SEVERAL CASES THAT WERE FORWARDED FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

UM, THE FIRST ONE IS THE AMENDMENT TO THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.

THIS WAS CHANGING CR 2 67 FROM AN ARTERIAL CLASS ROADWAY TO A COLLECTOR.

THEY DID APPROVE THAT REQUEST WITH THE FIVE TO ONE VOTE.

UM, THEY ALSO REVIEWED THE BARKSDALE CONCEPT PLAN OFF OF JOURNEY PARKWAY AND THEY APPROVED THAT REQUEST AND THEY REVIEWED THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AND APPROVED IT AS WELL.

THAT ONE WILL HAVE THE SECOND READING DURING THE AUGUST 4TH MEETING.

UM, THEY COMPLETED THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE FOR THE 500 HERITAGE GROVE ROAD PUD.

UM, WITH THE SECOND READING, THEY DID MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE ITEM WE HAD.

UH, SOME PEOPLE COME FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH AND THEY REQUESTED A SIMILAR BUFFER, UM, AS WELL AS A BUILDING HEIGHT SETBACK.

SO THAT WAS APPROVED.

AND THE LAST CASE WAS THE SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY TREE REMOVAL PLAN, AND THEY APPROVED THAT AND THAT'S IT FROM OUR REPORT.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UH, THE NEXT WE'LL REVIEW,

[4. Review of meeting protocol.]

UH, AT THIS TIME WE WILL ENTERTAIN ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? SEEING NONE? WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT

[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]

THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, I GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MAE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AGENDA ITEM

[9. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Subdivision Case 21-CP-016 to adopt the South 40 Major Roadways Concept Plan and Subdivision Case 21-PP-020 to adopt the South 40 Major Roadways Preliminary Plat on two parcels of land approximately 20.20 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R031721 and R321825; generally located east of the intersection of US 183 and Heritage Grove Road, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Subdivision Cases 21-CP-016 and 21-PP-020 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF US 180 3 AND HEARD HERITAGE GROVE ROAD LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

HELLO.

SO THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST AND SECOND STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS PURSUANT TO SECTION 2 1 2 0.005 OF TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE APPROVAL BY THE MUNICIPALITY IS REQUIRED SINCE THE CONCEPT PLAN SATISFIES THE, UH, APPLICABLE REGULATIONS WITHOUT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.

SO THE REPRESENTATIVE HERE TONIGHT FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE IS, UH, KIMBERLY HORN, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES 18.2, TWO ACRES OF COMMERCIAL, UH, AND 1.98 ACRES OF RIGHT AWAY, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 1,640 LINEAR FEET, UH, WITHIN THREE LOTS.

SO TWO COMMERCIAL, LOTS, ONE RIGHT AWAY, LOT, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AND WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY, THANK YOU.

IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION BY HIM HERE FOR QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE ANY GREAT, THANK YOU.

NOW WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP MR. BRIAN SMITH.

IF YOU COME UP MR. SMITH AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, SIR.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, MY NAME IS BRIAN SMITH.

MY ADDRESS IS 9,905 CHARTHOUSE COVE, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE OWNERS THAT OWN THE 10 ACRES TO THE NORTH, UH, IN THAT, IN THAT SLIDE, IT'S COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE OSS BAR, UH, TRACT.

UM, AND THE REASON I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION IS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TRIED TO COORDINATE WITH THE DEVELOPERS ON THIS PLAN, AND WE DO STILL HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IT SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO DRAINAGE.

AND IF YOU, UH, IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE LAST SLIDE IN WHAT THEY SUBMITTED OR THE LAST PAGE OF WHAT THEY SUBMITTED, UH, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S WATER FLOWING ONTO OUR PROPERTY FROM THE NORTH, WHICH IS ACROSS HERITAGE GROVE ROAD AND THERE'S WATER FLOWING ONTO OUR PROPERTY FROM THE WEST, WHICH IS WHERE THE, UH,

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UM, AS CURRENTLY DRAWN THAT WATER FLOWS THROUGH KIND OF THE CENTER OF OUR PROPERTY AND THEN WHERE IT EXITS OUR PROPERTY IS ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE 300 FEET FURTHER EAST THAN WHERE THE NATURAL GRADE IS.

AND SO ALL I WANT TO REITERATE IS WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO COORDINATE WITH THEM ON THESE SPECIFICS AROUND THE DRAINAGE.

AND, UH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE COMMISSION AWARE THAT AS IT STANDS, IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO US.

IT IT'S GOING TO GREATLY CHANGE AND IMPEDE OUR ABILITY TO DEVELOP OUR PROPERTY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. SMITH.

THERE'S NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, HEARING NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER MAY.

ONE THING I HAVE IS, SHOULD NOT BE THAT IT'S LOCATED IN THE WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF 180 3 IN HERITAGE GROVE INSTEAD OF EAST.

I THINK THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE CAUSE THAT, THAT THAT'S WHERE I WAS LOOKING AT THAT I HAVE NOTHING ELSE.

I HAVE NOTHING COREY REAL QUICK.

DO YOU MIND SHOWING THAT SLIDE, THAT JULIAN WAS TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE DRAINAGE SHOWS OR IT MIGHT NOT BE IF YOU'RE JUST IN OUR PACKET? ALL RIGHT.

I DID SEE.

OKAY.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DO HOPE THAT SINCE WE DO HAVE KIMBERLY HORN HERE, THAT YOU GUYS CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO EACH OTHER AND FIGURE THIS OUT.

UM, DURING THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE OF THE PROCESS, THEY'LL HAVE TO GET EASEMENTS AND WORK WITH THEM ON THAT PART.

SO THEY SHOULD WORK TOGETHER, NO QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

AND, AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON ALREADY COVERED THE, THE SUGGESTION TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WORK TOGETHER AND WORK THAT OUT WITH THE, WITH YOUR BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS AND PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.

SO, UM, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND, UM, MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ELANTRA, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY

[10. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 22-Z-020 to amend the Tylerville Tract PUD (Planned Unit Development) by adopting the Sodalis Minor PUD with the base zoning district of LC-2-A (Local Commercial) on one parcel of land approximately 4.995 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R539851; and generally located to the northwest of the intersection of W Broade St and W San Gabriel Pkwy, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 22-Z-020 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

THAT'S THE 0 2 0 2.

AMEND THE TYLER VILLE TRACK PUD BY ADOPTING THIS.

SO DALLAS MINOR POD WITH THE BASIS OWNING DISTRICT OF LC TO A LOCAL COMMERCIAL AT ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 4.995 ACRES IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCEL ARE 5 3 9 8 5 1.

AND GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF WEST BROAD STREET AND WEST SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY, LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATIONS.

THANK YOU.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.

THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO REMOVE THE TRACK FROM THE TYLER VILLE PUD AND ESTABLISH A STANDALONE MINOR PUD WITH THE BASE ZONING OF , UM, IN ORDER TO OPERATE IN AN ASSISTED LIVING CENTER WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING AND AMENITIES.

SO THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE HAVEN IN SAN GABRIEL THAT YOU SAW NOT TOO LONG AGO.

UM, IF I CAN SET THE STAGE, LET'S SEE.

ALRIGHT, HERE WE GO.

SO THE SURROUNDING ZONING, UH, IT'S ALL, UM, PUDS WITH A SINGLE FAMILY, UH, ASPECT TO THEM.

SO TO THE NORTH IS THE TYLER VILLE PUD, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY COMPACT, UH, TO THE EAST IS ALSO THE TYLER REAL PUD, SINGLE FAMILY, COMPACT TO THE SOUTH ACROSS THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THERE IS OAK CREEK PUD, ALSO SINGLE FAMILY COMPACT AND TO THE WEST IS THE HILL COUNTRY CHURCH, I BELIEVE, UH, WHICH IS ALSO A PUD.

UM, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG, UH, WEST SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY, JUST EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF SAN GABRIEL AND ROD STREET.

THE PROPERTY IS BOUND TO THE NORTH AND EAST WITH, UH, THE, BY THE ENCLAVE AT MY VISTA SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH ACROSS SAN GABRIEL IS THE OAK CREEK PHASE FIVE SUBDIVISION INTO THE WEST IS THE HILL COUNTRY BIBLE CHURCH.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.

SEE IF WE CAN HAVE AN ARIEL, UH, WITH MINIMAL TO NO TREE COVER.

UH, AND WE'LL COVER THAT IN THE, UH, THE SITE PLAN PHASE.

THE SITE CONTAINS A COL-DE-SAC FROM AKUMAL.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M BUTCHERING THAT NAME OR NOT, BUT THAT'S THIS GUY RIGHT HERE, UH, AND IS OUTSIDE OF THE FLOODPLAIN.

THE SITE WILL BE EVALUATED FOR DRAINAGE CRITERIA LATER IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

SO THERE WAS A PREVIOUS ZONING CASE AS STATED THE TAYLORVILLE PUD ORDINANCE WAS ORDINANCE 14 DASH.

SO YOU WERE SEVEN, FOUR DASH ZERO AND WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER OF 2014.

THE PROPERTY HAS ACCESS ONTO WEST SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY AND STREET DRIVEWAYS ALONG WEST SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY WILL BE REVIEWED BY ENGINEERING STAFF AT SITE DEVELOPMENT STAGE THE DRIVEWAY SPACING ALONG WEST ST.

GABRIEL PARKWAY WILL BE, UH, DICTATED BY THE, UH, AUSTIN TR TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL.

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AGAIN, THE, THERE CURRENTLY IS, UH, THE PROPERTIES CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND UNPLANTED, UH, THIS PROPERTY HAS ACCESS TO BOTH WATER AND SEWER, UH, FROM THE SURROUNDING SUBDIVISION.

UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE.

SO A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD WITH STAFF, UH, IN MARCH OF 2001, AND THERE WERE NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.

UH POST-MEETING UM, PUBLICATION WAS PUBLISHED IN THE HILL COUNTRY.

NEWS SIGNS WERE POSTED ON THE SITE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING SIGNAGE.

UM, AND, AND THEN THIS TONIGHT IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, IT WILL FOLLOW IN AUGUST 18TH THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ITS, UH, SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IN THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE AND THEN SEPTEMBER 9TH, UH, OR SEPTEMBER I'M SORRY, FIRST, UH, WILL BE CITY COUNCILS, SECOND, UH, MEETING ITEM AND THE FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE.

UM, SO STAFF MAILED A NOTICES TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS, WHICH FELL WITHIN 200 FEET PER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

THE AGENT REACHED OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS OF PROPERTIES ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY OR ANY PROPERTIES USE THAT SINGLE FAMILY WITHIN THE 500 FEET AS PER A COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.

ANY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION LOCATED WITHIN 500 FEET WERE ALSO CONTACTED.

SO, UH, YOU HAD THAT CORRESPONDENCE IN YOUR PACKET AS ATTACHMENT NUMBER NINE.

UM, THIS REQUEST IS PROPOSING A MINOR POD IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN ASSISTED LIVING CENTER WITH THE BASE ZONING OF, TO A LOCAL COMMERCIAL.

THIS WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED WHAT THIS WOULD BE THE ONLY ALLOWABLE USE PER THE MINOR PUD.

THIS SITE HAS FRONTAGE ALONG BOTH SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY WITH A SECONDARY INGRESS EGRESS OFF OF STREET.

THIS MINOR PUD INCLUDES A WAIVER TO ALLOW AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY THAT WOULD NORMALLY REQUIRE THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL, UH, USE COMPONENT, UH, WITH THAT.

UM, STEPH HAS NO MORE ITEMS. SO WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONING AFTER THE ITEM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? HI, I'M WILL DAVIES WITH DFT ARCHITECTS AND I REPRESENT THE OWNER AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

HE SAID EVERYTHING.

SO THERE'S NOT MUCH THEY HAD TO THAT, BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND WE MAY HAVE SOME AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, SO RIGHT NOW I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, DR.

FRANK STYLES, IF YOU WOULD COME UP, SIR, SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

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THAT'S YOUR HOUSE? THAT'S YOUR HOUSE.

YOU DID SAY THAT YOU WERE SUPPORTED IT, BUT ON YOUR CARD YOU WROTE THAT YOU WERE AGAINST IT AND DIDN'T KNOW WHICH ONE YOU WANTED THAT TO BE IN.

GOT IT.

YES, SIR.

YES, SIR.

THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NONE? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER ELANTRA.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND, AND I'M IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, DR.

STYLES.

UM, JUST THESE TWO PAGES IS NOT, UM, I DON'T THINK PROPER NOTIFICATION, BUT I GUESS TECHNICALLY THEY NOTIFIED, UH, PERHAPS NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF IT, BUT, UH, IT'S A TECHNICALITY.

IT, IT, IT, IT DID GO OUT.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR CORY OR THE DEVELOPER.

UM, THE CUL-DE-SAC AND, UH, KEMAL HARVEY.

IS THAT GOING TO BE, UH, BROUGHT INTO LIKE, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE PLAN WITH THAT COLD SEC? I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THEY PLAN ON EXTENDING IT THROUGH, OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO BREAK IT BACK OUT TO ST.

GABRIEL OR BLOCK IT OFF TO KNOW YOU CAN'T USE THAT.

UM, UM, I AGREE WITH, UH, DR.

STYLES, UH, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, IS IT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO, UM, HAVE A CLEAR NOTIFICATIONS, SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY BEING NOTIFIED OF? UM, IS IT ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE BY THE DEVELOPER OR SO YOU, YOU COULD REQUEST THAT THEY DID A NEW OUTREACH BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL, MAYBE FLUSH IT OUT MORE.

YES, YES.

I'LL REQUEST THAT YOU DO ANOTHER OUTREACH.

OKAY.

AND, UH, MAKE IT, UH, CLEAR, UH, CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND MAPS AND YOU KNOW, ALL THAT STUFF.

SO JUST PUT IT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS THAT THEY'LL UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UH, DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY AFFECTED BY IT.

AND I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

IT WAS TRAINED IN THE, IN OUR PACKETS.

WE HAD A THIRD PAGE THAT SHOULD HAVE GONE WITH IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS JUST ADMITTED FROM, UH, DR.

STYLES MAILING OR WHAT THAT WAS, BUT IT EXPLAINED THAT IT WAS A, I BELIEVE IT WAS TWO STORIES, 195 UNITS, OR WAS IT 95? I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH 94 UNITS, THERE WE GO.

BUT TWO STORIES.

UM, AND THE TWO, THE ONLY TWO ISSUES I CAN SEE WHETHER IT ARE THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE ON THE, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, ALONG THAT CIRCLE OF HAVING A BUILDING TWO STORIES TALL THAT CLOSE TO THEIR BACKYARD.

AND I WAS ALMOST SURPRISED WE DIDN'T HAVE A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THAT.

AND THEY ALSO MIGHT HAVE ISSUE WITH THE PASS THROUGH ON THE, WHERE THE CUL-DE-SAC IS NOW.

UM, IT MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE TO REACH OUT TO THOSE NEIGHBORS, UM, SO THAT YOU'RE NOT BOMBARDED WITH, UH, LITERALLY 500 PEOPLE COMING TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WANTING TO SPEAK AGAINST IT.

UM, THAT'S WHY WE INSTITUTED THIS WAS TO AVOID THAT.

AND I SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT I DON'T KNOW WHERE EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE LAID AT, OUT ON THERE, BUT HAVING THEM, HAVING THEIR FEARS

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UM, WE'LL GO A LONG WAY AND I DON'T KNOW, DO THEY, ARE THEY SCHEDULED FOR THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH WITH CITY COUNCIL? AUGUST 18TH.

SO WE, WE COULD POSTPONE IT, UH, BEFORE A VOTE HERE FOR THE NEXT P AND Z MEETING AND STILL STAY ON TRACK.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

OKAY.

AND THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE, IT'S NOT A QUESTION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE REASON THAT WE HAVE A PUD HERE TONIGHT IS BECAUSE IT IS A GENERAL COMMERCIAL USE IS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE USE WHERE THEY'RE ASKING FOR IT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A PRIORITY CORRIDOR.

IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE PUTTING GENERAL COMMERCIAL THERE.

AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS TIME OR THE NEXT TIME, JUST FOR THAT SIMPLE REASON ALONE.

AND WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION BEFORE AROUND, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER, OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE HAD.

SO THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION REAL QUICK? SORRY.

UH, THE ASSISTED LIVING IS THAT, SO IS THAT LIKE A, UH, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING YOU, IS IT LIKE A RETIREMENT WHERE COMMUNITY, OR IS IT ACTUAL ASSISTING THOSE THAT NEED, SO, AND WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS AMBULANCE IS COMING IN INTO THE FOLKS THAT HAVE THE NEIGHBOR, UH, THE HOUSING RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

UM, IS THAT THE LETTER IN THE PACKET? RIGHT.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

I DID.

I DIDN'T, UM, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME CLARIFICATION BEFORE I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DENY BASED ON THAT.

UM, FROM SOME OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS AS TO WHAT THEY ACTUALLY RECEIVED, I KNOW MARCH 31ST IS A WHILE AGO.

AND SO THERE, THERE MAY BE, MAYBE IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE MAILED.

SO I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO THINK ON THIS.

SO, UM, WHEN, WHEN STAFF ACCEPTS THE APPLICATION, THEY PROVIDE US WITH THE OUTREACH THAT THEY SAY THEY PROVIDED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, SO ARE YOU ASKING FOR US TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE WHAT THEY RECEIVED OR I THINK THIS IS KIND OF A, HE SAID, SHE SAID SCENARIO NOW.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND I DON'T WANT TO CALL ANYBODY WRONG ON THIS.

THAT, THAT, THAT, WASN'T THE POINT OF IT.

I MEAN, UH, BUT, BUT, BUT AGAIN, UM, IF WORD GETS OUT AND THEY THINK THAT WE'RE SIDESTEPPING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE COULD BE A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD UP HERE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

AND THAT, THAT'S THE ONE THING I WANT TO AVOID.

SO I I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, UH, RE THE, OR NOT GO THROUGH THE WHOLE HEARING AGAIN, BUT REVISIT THIS IN THE, AT THE NEXT P AND Z MEETING.

AND, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO CALL EVERY SINGLE PERSON THERE, BUT JUST SOME VERIFICATION, THEY GOT THE FULL PACKET SO THAT WE'RE NOT BLINDSIDED

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SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE.

SO CAN I GET ONE CLARIFICATION? UM, SO ARE YOU ASKING THEM TO REDO THEIR OUTREACH? UM, I DON'T HAVE CONTACTS WITH THOSE PEOPLE.

SO IT WOULD BE THE CITY MAILING, A LETTER OR THE APPLICANT MAILING A LETTER.

CAUSE I DON'T HAVE THEIR, THEIR PHONE NUMBERS.

THE F THE 500 BUFFER IS THE ONE THAT THE CITY CENTER, WE DO 200 AND THEN THEY SEND OUT THE FIVE.

CORRECT.

I BELIEVE THE 500 WOULD BE IDEAL.

SO IF YOU'RE ASKING THE MAILING COSTS ARE A LOT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, W WHAT ARE THEY, 50, 60 CENTS A HOUSE.

THAT'S ANOTHER $300.

I DON'T WANT TO, COULD THEY PROVIDE IT IN THIS PACKET? I MEAN, I GUESSING IN THIS PACKET IS THE LIST OF FOLKS THAT THIS WENT OUT TO.

SO, I MEAN, THERE'S NOT, I MEAN, DR.

STYLES, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT BACK ON MARCH 31ST, THAT YOU RECEIVED A DIFFERENT PACKET THAN WHAT YOU JUST SHARED WITH US? SO, WAIT, ONE SECOND.

I'LL JUST ASK IF YOU'RE GONNA SPEAK, YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO COME BACK UP TO THE MICROPHONE.

THAT WAY IT CAN BE SPOKEN INTO THE RECORD.

AND, AND I'LL JUST, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE COMMISSION.

I'M GOING TO ENTERTAIN THIS VERY LITTLE THOUGH, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BE LIKE WE WERE TALKING BEFORE HE SAID, SHE SAID, TYPE OF SITUATION, OH, LET ME MAKE A SUGGESTION.

NOTIFY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION BOARD.

LET THEM TAKE THAT UP.

THAT SHOULD BE VERY INEXPENSIVE.

I, AS, AS I SAID, I'M NOT AGAINST THESE PEOPLE.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON, WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SIDESTEPPING ARE OVER NOTIFICATION.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS WHAT I WANT TO VERY MUCH MAKE CLEAR.

THERE ARE NO SIGNS OF STATING THAT THAT ARE VISIBLE.

MAKE THEM PUT THESE DAMN SIGNS TO WHERE YOU CAN SEE THEM BECAUSE YOU CAN DRIVE RIGHT, PRY THIS WHOLE PROPERTY.

AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANYTHING OTHER THAN YELLOW SIGNS FLAT DOWN IN THE DIRT, MAKE THEM PUT THE SIGNS UP AND NOTIFY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, LET THEM DO THAT.

SEE IF ANYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

I LIKED THIS PROJECT.

AND, UM, TRUTHFULLY, I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HERE.

THEN I A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE ON A ROAD, LIKE WHAT IT IS.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS THERE, BUT I'M NOT AS WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THIS IS, BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF A TRANSITION AREA FROM HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION TO ASSISTED LIVING.

SO IT, IT DOESN'T OFFEND ME IN ANY WAY.

I'M MORE CONCERNED THAT THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY, MANY, MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIDESTEP THIS PROCEDURE.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ONE.

AND I DON'T MEAN TO TAKE IT OUT ON THEM.

AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO INCUR SIGNIFICANT EXPENSES ABOUT THIS.

THAT'S A WAY WE CAN GET AROUND THIS AND GO FORWARD AND LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS THING SERIOUSLY, THEN THEY ARE GOING TO BE SLAPPED AFTER THAT.

THAT'S WHY I WAS UP HERE.

I DON'T HATE THESE PEOPLE.

I DON'T WANT IT TO GO AWAY.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IT APPROVE MYSELF, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM START TAKING THIS NOTIFICATION SERIOUSLY BECAUSE IT WORKS.

IT WORKS VERY NICELY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SO I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION AS THE CITY, JUST CONTACT THE HOA, WHATEVER CONTACT WE HAVE WITH THE HOA.

AND, UM, DO YOU WANT US TO, TO SEND HIS INFORMATION TO THEM, OR YOU WANT HIM TO CONTACT THEM DIRECTLY? THERE ARE TWO HOS ON THE LIST.

IT'S OAK CREEK.

UM, AND THEN THE MAYA VISTA OR ENCLAVE AT MAYA VISTA.

UM, YEAH, JUST CONTACTING THE HOA.

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HIM SEND OUT 500 MORE, UH, PACKETS THAT THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE AND IT COULD BE A PHONE CALL AND AN EMAIL WITH THE INFORMATION.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF IT, THAT THE HOA CAN TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CONTACTING THEIR FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE.

AND, UM, ONCE WE HAVE VERIFICATION OF THAT, UH, I WOULD SAY WE'RE READY TO VOTE ON IT.

I'M GOING TO SHOW MOST.

UM, AND I WOULD LIKE, UH, FOR YOU TO, UH, GO AROUND AND CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT THE SIGNS ARE UP MEN CAUSE YOU KNOW, DUE TO WEATHER AND JUST, YOU KNOW, EVERYDAY THINGS HAPPENING THAT THEY CAN FALL DOWN.

SO SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE CHECKING THOSE SIGNS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND AS FAR AS, UH, NOTIFYING, UH, THE HOMEOWNERS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE SOME TYPE OF A CONFIRMATION THAT YOU DID IT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

SO COMMISSIONER MAY, UH, MADE A MOTION TO POSTPONE, BUT ALSO WITH THE DIRECTION FOR, TO

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I JUST, JUST THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS ARE NOTIFIED.

OKAY.

AND THEN COMMISSIONER MOSS ADDED AND SHE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SIGNS ARE PUT UP.

WOULD YOU AMEND YOUR MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT? YES.

OKAY.

AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND ONE? SHE DIDN'T REALLY SECOND.

SHE JUST SAID, THAT'S WHAT I WANT.

SO I'LL SECOND.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MAY AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOSS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY

[11. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Subdivision Case 22-CP-004 to adopt the Gabriel’s Horn Development Concept Plan on four parcels of land approximately 17.82 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R022218, R500872, R500871, and R473804; generally located at the north west corner of Ronald Reagan Blvd. and Gabriel’s Horn Rd., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Subdivision Case 22-CP-004 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF RONALD REAGAN BOULEVARD IN GABRIEL'S HORN ROAD, LEANDER, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

DO YOU, SO THE REQUESTS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS PURSUANT TO SECTION 2, 1 2 0.005 OF TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, APPROVAL BY THE MUNICIPALITY IS REQUIRED SINCE THE CONCEPT PLAN SATISFIES THE, UH, APPLICABLE REGULATIONS WITHOUT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.

UH, THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES TWO COMMERCIAL, LOTS AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.

WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AFTERWARDS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? NOPE.

SO RIGHT NOW I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, SIR.

IF YOU'D COME UP, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

UM, HI, MY NAME IS DANIELA I'M, UM, LIVING AT 1801 SHOSHANA COURT.

UM, PART OF THE VALLEY VISTA ESTATE.

UM, SO OUR, UM, BR UM, OUR ENTRY WERE ONLY ENTRYWAY TO OUR COMMUNITY IS GABRIEL HORNS.

AND THERE IS NO RIGHT TURN LANE OR ANYTHING FOR THAT.

AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT, UM, IN THE FUTURE, THERE IS AN POSSIBILITY FOR EXPANSION OF THE GABRIEL HORNS, UM, THIS, UH, THE ROAD AND, UM, AND THAT IS TECHNICALLY A DEAD END ROAD.

AND THEN THE, UH, THE NOTIFICATION OR THE NOTICE WAS PLACED RIGHT IN THE METAL WHERE WE, NOBODY ACTUALLY WALKS AWAY.

SO NONE OF THOSE, NONE OF US ACTUALLY KNEW THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A DEVELOPMENT THERE.

UH, WE CAME TO FIND OUT WHEN ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN, UH, IN OUR COMMUNITY ACTUALLY WAS WALKING HIS DOG AND ACCIDENTALLY NOTICE THAT SIGN.

UM, AND THEN HE PUT US POSTED ON FACEBOOK.

SO THERE WAS ONLY ONE SIGN.

UM, THE, THE HOUSE HAS GOT A NOTIFICATION WHICH ARE 200 FEET WITHIN THAT PROXIMITY.

BUT SINCE THAT IS THE ONLY ENTRANCE, UM, WE WOULD, UM, RE WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UH, THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, BE AWARE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL, AND GET INTO NOTIFICATIONS IN THE FUTURE.

SO, UM, THAT'S ONE THING.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, THE WEBSITE THAT WAS LINKED IN THAT, UH, NOTIFICATION WHERE YOU TRIED TO LOG IN AND LOOK AT IT, BUT THE PAGE WASN'T FOUND.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

GREAT, SIR, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, PLEASE FILLING OUT A CARD AND TURNING IT IN, JUST SO WE HAVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, HEARING NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER, MAY NO QUESTIONS.

WHAT'S YOUR MOST? UM, HE SAID THAT WHEN THE SIGN THAT WAS UP, IT HAD A WEBSITE ON IT AND THEY TRIED TO GET ON THE WEBSITE AND, UH, IT DIDN'T WORK.

SO IS THAT A PROPER NOTIFICATION IF YOU GOT INFORMATION ON THERE THAT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO GET TO.

SO I THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE WEBSITE IN THE LETTER, OR WAS IT THE SIGN? YES.

COME ON, PLEASE.

UH, HI, MY NAME IS DAVID JOHNSON.

UH, I ALSO LIVE AT 18 0 1 SHONEY COURT.

UM, AND JUST TO PROVIDE A CLARIFICATION ON THAT, THE, THE WEBSITE WAS TO THE CITY OF LANDERS WEBSITE.

HOWEVER, UM, WHEN YOU PUT IN THE CASE NUMBER TO DO ANY SORT OF RESEARCH, UM, THERE WAS NO LISTING WITHIN THE CITY OF LANDOR WEBSITE.

UH, YOU DO A GOOGLE SEARCH FOR IT.

UM, IT DID POPULATE A, A LINK THAT SHOWED

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SO IT WAS A, A DEAD LINK.

UM, SO ANYONE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY WHO DID DO RESEARCH FOR IT COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING, UM, OTHER THAN THE, THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SENT OUT, UM, ON THE 17TH, UH, OR LAST FRIDAY, I BELIEVE.

UM, YEAH, FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK, UH, TO THE HOMEOWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPOSED, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

SO THE 22ND OF JULY, THAT'S WHEN I'M GONNA SEND OUT.

UH, YES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHEN THE NEIGHBORS ARE SEATED.

OKAY.

ALRIGHTY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

UM, SO, UM, WHEN HE SAYS THE DEAD LINK, IT WAS FROM THE CITY OF LEANDER.

WE'D WANT TO HAVE THE DEAD LINK OR SO ON OUR WEBSITE, THERE'S A LINK TO PUBLIC NOTICES.

SO WE CAN CHECK THAT AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

UM, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE READS WE'RE REQUIRED TO MAIL NOTICES WITHIN 200 FEET AND POST SIGNS.

UM, THE WEBSITE'S KIND OF EXTRA, BUT WE CAN CHECK ON THAT AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, THAT'S IT, MR. HAMPTON, NO QUESTION.

MY QUESTION IS FOR STAFF.

I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT IN TO THIS SPACE YET, BUT THEY WILL BE REQUIRED ON THIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO PUT IN SOME TURN LANES.

CORRECT.

SO THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO, UM, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

AND I THINK MOST LIKELY IT'S GOING TO WARRANT RIGHT TURN LANES.

UM, AND GABRIEL'S HORN IS INTENDED TO GO THROUGH BARR W SO THAT ROAD WILL CONNECT TO NO LONGER BE A DEAD END.

WE, I LIVE IN A SUBDIVISION OFF OF REAGAN THAT, WHERE THERE WAS NO REQUIREMENT TO PUT TURN LANES IN WHEN IT WAS PUT IN.

AND SO WE HAVE HOW WE ALMOST GET HIT DAILY, TRYING TO TURN INTO OUR SUBDIVISION.

SO DOES WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO GET SOME RELIEF THERE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

AND MY ONLY QUESTION IS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW EVERY ROAD ON THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, HOW CAN THEY EXPECT YOU TO EITHER, UH, UM, BUT MS. GRIFFIN, BUT IS GABRIEL GABRIEL'S HORN.

DO YOU KNOW IF IT'S PLANNING TO BE, IF THERE'S A PLAN FOR IT TO BE EXPANDED, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A COLLECTOR AND CONNECT TO BARR.

W UM, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO MEET THAT COLLECTOR COLLECTOR WITH REQUIREMENT, AND IT DOESN'T TODAY.

IT DOESN'T APPLY TO TODAY WHEN VALLEY VISTA WAS DEVELOPED, HAD TO DO A PORTION OF IT.

SO THIS DEVELOPER WILL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THE REST.

GOT THAT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT CONCERN FROM, UM, MR. HILL WAS, WAS ADDRESSED AS WELL.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENTS I HAD.

THIS IS A ACTION ITEM, MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER LANTRIP SECOND, A MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MOSS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

AND WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.