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GOOD EVENING

[1. Call to Order.]

AND WELCOME TO THE AUGUST 11TH, 2022 CITY OF LEANDER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT

[2. Roll Call.]

THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR CHAIRMAN COST GROWTH, WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE GETS ME TONIGHT.

[3. Director’s report to the Planning & Zoning Commission on actions taken by the City Council at the August 4, 2022 meeting]

AND NOW WE'LL GO ONTO THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M REPORTING ON ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE AUGUST 4TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE CONDUCTED THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE FOR THE AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR LANDSCAPING.

UM, THEY ALSO APPROVED THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE SOUTH 40 MAJOR ROADWAYS AND THE GABRIEL'S HORN CONCEPT PLAN.

AND FINALLY THEY APPROVED THE, UM, SULLIVAN TRACT CONCEPT PLAN AND ZONING REQUEST.

UH, THAT'S IT FOR MY REPORT.

THANK YOU.

[4. Review of meeting protocol.]

NOW WE'LL REVIEW THE MEETING PROTOCOL, WHICH WILL BE UP ON THE BOARD OVER THERE AT THIS TIME.

WE WILL HAVE A CITIZEN COMMENTS FOR

[5. Citizen Comments: Three (3) minutes allowed per speaker. [Please turn in speaker request form before the meeting begins.]]

ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

I KNOW THERE'S MANY FOLKS HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON NOW, IS YOUR CHANCE SEEING NONE WE'LL MOVE ON TO

[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]

THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THIS IS ACTION.

I MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MAY SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ELANTRA.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ONTO THE

[8. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Subdivision Case 22-SFP-005 and Variance Case 22-VA-004 to consider the approval of the King Subdivision Short Form Final Plat and associated variances to Article III, Section 45 (b)(10)) and Article IV, Section 61 of the Subdivision Ordinance and Article VI, Section 8 (b)(1) of the Composite Zoning Ordinance on two parcels of land approximately 5.862 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R599426 and R032242; and more commonly known as 1020 and 1030 CR 267, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action on Subdivision Case 22-SFP-005 and 22-VA-004 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

NUMBER EIGHT, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING SUBDIVISION CASE 22 DASH SFP DASH 0 0 5 AND VARIANTS CASE TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE KING SUBDIVISION SHORT-FORM FINAL PLAT AND ASSOCIATED VARIANCES TO ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 45, B 10, AND ARTICLE SIX, SORRY.

ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION 61 OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND ARTICLE SIX, SECTION EIGHT B ONE OF THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE ON TWO PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 5.862 ACRES IN SIZE.

MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCELS ARE 5 9 9 4 2 6 AND ARE 0 3 2 2 4, 2 AND MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1 0 2 0 AND 1 0 3 0 COUNTY ROAD, 2 6 7, LEANDER, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? HELLO? YOU GUYS HEAR ME? OKAY.

UM, MICHAEL PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UH, SO THIS REQUEST IS THE FINAL STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING VARIANCES BE GRANTED BY THE COMMISSION.

UH, THE FIRST FROM THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE, ARTICLE SIX, SECTION EIGHT, UH, ALLOWING DIRECT ACCESS DRIVE, UH, FROM ANY SINGLE FAMILY LOT FROM A COLLECTOR CLASS ROADWAY.

UH, THIS REQUEST INCLUDES A SHARED DRIVEWAY FOR THE LOTS ONTO THE COLLECTOR.

UH, NUMBER TWO, REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT FOR A 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE, LOT ADJACENT TO A COUNTY ROAD 2 67.

UH, THIS REQUIREMENT IS USED FOR LARGER DEVELOPMENTS WITH MULTIPLE LOTS THAT BACK UP TO A COLLECTOR AND THREE REMOVING A REQUIREMENT FOR THE SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE ALONG THE COMMON LOT LINE, UH, BETWEEN THE LANDSCAPE LOT.

UH, THE, AND THE SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS, UH, ALONG, UH, COUNTY ROAD 2, 6, 7, UH, THE OTHER ONES ARE FROM THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION 61 A WHICH STATES REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION AND PARKLAND IMPROVEMENTS, UH, FOR ANY SUBDIVISION THAT ADDS NEW RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

UH, THE FIRST IS REMOVING THE PARKLAND DEDICATION OR THE FEE IN LIEU OPTION.

AND THE SECOND IS REMOVING THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS OR THE PARK IMPROVEMENT FEE REQUIRED.

SO THE GOAL OF THE REQUESTED, UH, REQUESTING THESE VARIANCES IS TO ENSURE THE ORDINANCE IS NOT CREATE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS AFFECTED BY THE SHORT FORM FINAL PLAT APPLICATION.

UH, THE PURPOSE OF THIS ORDINANCE IS TO PROVIDE AN ORDERLY, SAFE HEALTHFUL DEVELOPMENT TO PROMOTE THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY.

A VARIANCE TO THESE PROVISIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE CONSIDERED AN EXCEPTION TO THE REGULATIONS WHENEVER ATTRACT, UH, TO BE DEVELOPED IS OF SUCH UNUSUAL SIZE SHAPE OR SURROUNDED BY DEVELOPMENT OF SUCH UNUSUAL CONDITIONS THAT THE STRICT APPLICATION OF THE REQUIREMENTS CONTAINED IN THIS ORDINANCE WOULD RESULT IN A SUBSTANTIAL HARDSHIP OR INEQUITY.

UH, BUT SO THAT AT THE SAME TIME, THE PUBLIC WELFARE AND INTEREST OF THE CITY ARE PROTECTED AND THE GENERAL INTENT AND SPIRIT OF THIS ORDINANCE, UH, ARE PRESERVED.

UH, SO SOME HISTORY OF THIS, UH, PLAT, IT WAS ANNEXED IN 2016.

UH, THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN WAS RECENTLY AMENDED,

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UM, RECLASSIFY RECLASSIFYING COUNTY ROAD 2 67 FROM AN ARTERIAL TO A COLLECTOR.

SO THESE VARIANCES ARE STILL RELEVANT.

UM, THEY WOULD HAVE APPLIED IF IT WAS AN ARTERIAL AS WELL.

UH, SO THIS SHORT FORM VINYL PLAT INCLUDES THREE RESIDENTIAL WATTS.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SHORT FORM FINAL PLAT AND THE ASSOCIATED VARIANCES, UH, WITH THE CONDITION, UH, THAT THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY, UH, NOTES THAT WERE, UH, ADDED, UH, REGARDING THE ONSITE SEWAGE FACILITY BE ADDED TO THE PLAT PRIOR TO APPROVAL.

UM, IF THE COMMISSION CHOOSES TO APPROVE THESE VARIANCES, UH, THEY MUST TAKE ACTION AND CONFIRM THAT THE REQUEST MEETS THE FINDINGS OF FACT, AS LISTED ON YOUR EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? YES.

THANK YOU.

UH, MY NAME IS PHIL KING.

UH, ONE OF THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS IN MY SELF AND MY WIFE ARE OWNERS OF A LOT, TWO AND THREE AT DAVID AND REBECCA SMITH.

AND REBECCA IS PRESENT HERE THIS EVENING ARE OWNERS OF LOT ONE, UH, AND WE KIND OF BEGAN THIS PROCESS ALMOST A YEAR AGO WITH A MEETING WITH ROBIN AND OTHERS OF THE CITY, UH, ON HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.

AND, UH, I HAD A MEETING THIS MORNING WITH THE COUNTY OFFICIALS HAVING TO DO WITH THE OSF NOTATION THAT THEY WANT ON THE PLAT THAT WAS NOT THERE, UH, AND, UH, GOT THEIR APPROVAL OF, UH, TWO OF THE ENGINEERS THERE IN THAT DEPARTMENT.

AND THE ONE REVIEWING THE SSF REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE ON LOCK ONE AND TWO ARE A LOT, ONE AND TWO, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD RESIDENCES THERE ALREADY FOR MULTIPLE YEARS, AND THEN UTILIZING THE SYSTEM AND THE CITY HAD APPROVED THE BUILDING PROCESS OF THE HOUSES, BOTH ON THOSE LOTS, UH, IN THE TIME THAT WE'D BEEN THERE.

SO, UM, BASICALLY I JUST WANT TO AFFIRM, UH, THAT AS PROPERTY OWNERS, WHAT WAS PRESENTED BY THE STAFF MEMBER, MICHAEL HERE JUST A MOMENT AGO AND HIS RECOMMENDATIONS IS THAT WE SUPPORT THAT.

AND WE REQUEST THAT, UH, THE COMMISSION, UH, APPROVE THIS PROCESS OR THAT WE CAN BEGIN SOME PROJECTS THAT AS PROPERTY OWNERS, WE CANNOT DO ANY LONGER TO GET PERMANENT PROCESS THROUGH THE CITY UNTIL A PLAT IS COMPLETED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, SEEING NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION? MR. MAY I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION? UM, HAVE WE CHECKED WITH THE, UM, CITY ENGINEERS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SAFETY ISSUE? UM, W UH, WITH THE DRIVEWAYS ON A COLLECTOR CLASS STREET.

SO TH THIS IS A LITTLE UNIQUE, UM, TO A REGULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE ONE.

SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT ADDING LIKE EIGHT DRIVEWAYS TO A COLLECTOR, SO WE WERE AGREEABLE TO THE CHANGE.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BEFORE.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAD.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER MOSS.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

HE ASKED THE QUESTION.

HE'S TOO QUICK, MR. MR. HAMPTON, NO QUESTIONS FOR ME, MR. ELANTRA, NO QUESTIONS, MR. CARPENTER, JUST ONE, HOW MANY LOTS ARE GOING TO BE IN THIS SUBDIVISION? DO WE KNOW IT'S JUST THE THREE, JUST THE THREE ARE GOING TO STAY THAT WAY.

RIGHT.

GREAT.

THAT'S IT.

AND I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

UM, I WILL MAKE THE MOTION JUST BECAUSE I'VE GOT THE EXTRA PIECE HERE AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S INCLUDED.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS WITH WHICH ALSO INCLUDES, UH, INCLUDING ON THE PLAT, THAT ALL CONDITIONS LISTED BY WILLIAMSON COUNTY REGARDING THE ONSITE SEWAGE FACILITY ACCEPTANCE HAVE BEEN MET.

AND YOU ALSO NEED TO, UM, INCLUDE IN THE VOTES THAT Y'ALL AGREE TO THE FINDINGS OF FACT, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE MEETING THAT CRITERIA AS WELL.

AND THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE FINDINGS OF FACT.

THANK YOU, ROB.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER, MAY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AGENDA ITEM,

[9. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Subdivision Case 21-CP-019 to adopt the Cypress Meadows Concept Plan on one parcel of land approximately 44.1 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R403528; generally located south of Hernandos Loop and west of US 183, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Subdivision Case 21-CP-019 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

NUMBER NINE, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING SUBDIVISION CASE 21 DASH CP DASH 0 1 9 TO ADOPT THE CYPRESS MEADOWS CONCEPT PLAN ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 44.1 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCEL ARE 4 0 3 5 2 8, GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF HERNANDEZ LOOP AND WEST OF US, 180 3 LAND OR WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS DISCUSSING THE DIRECTION REGARDING THE SUBDIVISION CASE AS DESCRIBED ABOVE STAFF PRESENTATION.

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THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER IS MICHAEL CHASKY MY, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UH, THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS AND PURSUANT TO SECTION, UH, 2 1 2 0.005 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE APPROVAL BY THE MUNICIPALITY AS REQUIRED.

UH, SINCE THE CONCEPT PLAN SATISFIES THE APPLICABLE REGULATIONS WITHOUT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. TENASKA, DO WE HAVE A APPLICANT PRESENTATION? NO.

OKAY.

NOW I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

SO WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

YOU'LL HAVE, UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD.

AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

MR. DARRELL, DARNELL HI, GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME IS DARRELL DARNELL.

I LIVE AT 41 1 HERNANDO'S LOOP, WHICH IS AT THE VERY END OF HERNANDO'S LOOP THERE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT, THEY GOT THE PROPOSED ENTRY GOING IN.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I NEED TO SAY TO Y'ALL.

FIRST OF ALL, UH, WHOEVER'S IN CHARGE OF PUTTING UP THE NOTICE SIGNS, UH, COME OUT THERE AND DROVE THEM IN THE GROUND ABOUT THAT FAR, THAT YOU ASKED HER ABOUT HALF A DAY IN BLUE DOWN, AND NOBODY EVER COME BACK AND PUT THEM UP.

UH, I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF A WEEK LATER TO STRAP THEM TO THE, TO THE, UH, FENCE WHERE PEOPLE COULD SEE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY PUT ANY IN THE BACK NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST.

UH, NO NOTICES IS WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

AND THEN, UH, SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS SAY THEY GOT A LETTER FROM Y'ALL AND THEN I GOT SOME MAPS STUCK TO MY DOOR AND OTHER NEIGHBORS DIDN'T GET ANYTHING.

I GOT A COPY OF THIS MAP.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WERE ON THE, THE BOARD.

UH, PROBABLY THREE YEARS AGO, WE HAD ANOTHER DEVELOPER COME IN AND THEY WERE, THEY WERE REALLY KIND, THEY CALLED NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, HAD MEETINGS WITH PEOPLE BEFORE WE EVEN GOT TO THIS, UH, THIS DEAL.

BUT THIS, THIS, UH, DEVELOPERS KIND OF LIKE, UH, DOING IT COVERTLY THAT I'VE WRITTEN THAT, UH, SINCE I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE, UH, 2017, I'VE WRITTEN THAT PROPERTY ON A FOUR WHEELER NUMEROUS TIMES FOR MR. WISE, WATCHING HIS COWS, THAT WHOLE PROPERTY FLOODS, UH, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE BLOODLINE SAYS, UH, THERE'S MORE CREEKS ON THERE THAN WHAT'S SHOWN ON THAT.

THAT IS A MAIN DRAINAGE FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST ALL THE WAY FROM BAGHDAD ROAD.

AND WHEN IT RAINS, UH, HERNANDEZ LOOP HAS NO CURB AND GUTTERS IT'S STRICTLY JUST RUNS DOWN THE STREET AND IT, IT, THE STREET RUNS TOWARDS 180 3.

SO IT COMES DOWN HERNANDEZ LOOP IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND GO STRAIGHT WHERE THAT ARROW IS, IS THE OLD CREEK BED.

AND IT RUNS STRAIGHT INTO WHERE THOSE, BETWEEN THOSE TWO BLUE LINES AND GOES OUT THE COBRA.

THE LAST TIME WE HAD A MEETING, UH, TXDOT, UH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ADVISE THAT THEIR CULVERT WASN'T BIG ENOUGH.

THEY WOULDN'T, DON'T PUT IN A BIGGER COVERT THE RAILROAD SAME WAY.

ALL Y'ALL GOING TO DO, IF Y'ALL ARE APPROVED, THIS HAS DUMP WATER ON US AND DUMP MORE WATER INTO BLOCK HOUSE BECAUSE THAT LAND THAT DOES ABSORB WATER IS GOING TO BE ALL CONCRETE.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PUT 22 HOUSES ALONG THAT GREEN, THAT GREEN AREA, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAP.

SO THERE'S 22 HOUSES THERE AND 75 IN THE YELLOW SECTION.

SO MY MAIN, ONE OF MY MAIN QUESTIONS IS WHY WOULD YOU HAVE A DRIVEWAY GOING INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE VERY END OF HERNANDO'S LOOP AND NOT HAVE IT UP AT THE FRONT? SO YOU'RE GOING TO RUN ALL THAT TRAFFIC DOWN THE LOOP TO GO INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU'RE GOING TO RUN IT ALL THROUGH THIS OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, TO WHERE IF YOU DO APPROVE IT, THEY NEED TO HAVE THE ONLY ENTRIES FROM 180 3.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. DARNELL.

UM, CORDIA LOVELADY IMAM.

IF YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, YOU'LL HAVE TO REMIT.

I LOVE THAT.

AND I LIVE AT 2 0 5 HERNANDEZ LOOP, AND MY MAIN CONCERN IS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE COMING ON OUR LOOP.

OUR ROAD, OUR STREET IS ONLY 18 FEET WIDE.

IT'S NOT EVEN A TWO LANE ROAD.

UM, WE HAVE AN ISSUE AT TIMES WITH CARS GOING A LITTLE TOO FAST.

WE HAVE QUITE A FEW FAMILIES AS YOU COME INTO HERNANDEZ LOOP.

THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF OUR KIDS ARE.

I'VE HAD THE HOME FOR 43 YEARS.

THE MAIN REASON I BOUGHT WAS IT WAS A LOOP.

IT WAS SAFE FOR THE KIDS.

OKAY.

I'VE NOTICED SINCE THEY OPENED UP COUNTY GLEN, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE, CARS ARE COMING MORE THROUGH THERE.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A CHILD

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KILLED THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T SLOW DOWN.

I DON'T WANT THAT.

FIRST OFF OUR ROAD CAN HANDLE ANY MORE CARS AND IT IS A LOOP AND THE FAMILIES THAT ARE THERE.

I MEAN, WE HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR EACH OTHER, EVEN WHEN WE'RE PASSING.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A DANGER AND IT JUST CAN'T HANDLE, AND THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE THEY EVER OPENED UP HERNANDEZ.

TO, FOR THAT REASON, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IN THE FLOODING ISSUE.

I'M WITH THAT, I'VE SEEN IT OVER THE 43 YEARS.

IT'S NEVER BEEN FIXED BY THE CITY.

AND IT'S WORSE NOW THAT THE ROAD IS HIGHER BECAUSE IT COMES DOWN INTO OUR YARDS AND HAS NO PLACE TO GO OTHER THAN JUST PILE UP AND KEEP GOING.

AND THAT LITTLE CREEK DOES NOT HANDLE THE OVERFLOW.

THAT'S RIGHT THERE.

THAT LITTLE TINY LITTLE BRIDGE DOES IT.

IT DOESN'T HANDLE IT ALL THE DITCHES FROM COUNTY, GLEN LOOKED GREAT, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT LITTLE BITTY CREEK ABOUT THIS WIDE UNDER THE BREAD, IT DOESN'T TAKE IT.

SO, AND ANOTHER REASON WE HAVE THAT DAYCARE CENTER OR WHATEVER ON 180 3, IF YOU OPEN HER, NANDO'S LOOP UP IN ANY OF THOSE KIDS, GET AWAY FROM THOSE TEACHERS WHILE THEY'RE THERE AND COME ON OUR STREET BECAUSE ITS BACKS BACKS UP RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S ANOTHER HAZARD.

SO IT'S A REALLY MAJOR SAFETY ISSUE ALONG WITH THE MAJOR FLOODING ISSUE.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM ROSEMARY MILLER AND SPELL IT FOR YOUR SPEAKER NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

IT WAS MURRAY MILLER, A 2100 EMERALD I'LL DRIVE.

UM, YOU COULD, WE HAD TO CHECK A CHECKBOX, WHETHER I'M FOR OR AGAINST.

I NEED TO NOT HAVE ONE BECAUSE I'M NOT EITHER, UM, UNTIL I GET SOME MORE INFORMATION, UM, I AM AGAINST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD IN THE PRIOR PREVIOUS ONE, BUT ONE WOULD BE GETTING MORE INFORMATION FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, UM, AS TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY, UM, DISCUSSED AS, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S THE WATER GOING TO GO? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DO THAT? AND WHEN YOU GUYS DO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, THINKING ABOUT, AND MAYBE EVEN REFERRING BACK TO SOME OF THE SURVEYS THAT WERE TAKEN BEFORE, CAUSE THE LAST PEOPLE DID TAKE A LOT OF TIME TO GET INFORMATION AND, UM, SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO TRY TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT THEY NEVER ENDED UP BUILDING.

UM, SO IF WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT ALREADY, I HOPE THAT WE'RE DOING DUE DILIGENCE TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO FIX THOSE THINGS.

UH, ROADS WERE ALREADY DISCUSSED OUR SIDEWALKS.

THERE ARE NONE.

UM, SO THAT IS GOING TO BE A SAFETY ISSUE AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN ALSO THE ENTRY.

SO JUST REITERATING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID.

UM, YEAH.

AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, UM, ALSO TO WHERE ARE THEY AS THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING, UM, WHERE ARE THE ROADS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAKING FOR THEIR TRUCKS TO BE GOING IN AND OUT AND ALL OF THAT? HOW IS EVERYTHING GOING TO BE MANEUVERED THAT WAY? THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM UH, JUDGE EDMONDS, STOUT, JUST OUT.

YOU'LL HAVE, UH, PLEASE SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YEAH, MADNESS.

TODD.

I LIVE AT FOUR 20 HERNANDO'S LOOP, WHICH IS DIRECTLY MY FRONT YARD.

I'M LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET AT THIS PROPERTY RIGHT ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE.

AND SO I WANT TO RAISE THE THREE ISSUES THAT ARE MAINLY HERE.

THE FLOOD PLAIN, MOST OF THAT PROPERTY IS FLOODPLAIN.

IT FLOODS WHEN IT RAINS, ALL THAT WATER GOES RIGHT STRAIGHT DOWN THE STREET, RIGHT INTO MY YARD.

AND I HAVE A PUDDLE, EVEN THOUGH THEY RECREATED A DANGEROUS DITCHES TO INDUSTRY IT'S NOT ADEQUATE ENOUGH.

AND SO THAT PROPERTY IS ALMOST ALL FLOODPLAIN AND TO BUILD ANYTHING ON THAT IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF WHEN WE HAD THIS MEETINGS IN THE PAST CONCERN AND PROPERTY, FEMA WAS MAKING STATEMENTS, WHICH I BELIEVE I'LL LET, UM, AND THAT IS DRESS, BUT IT IS REALLY A MATTER OF THE FACT THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF MONEY, MORE MONEY THAN ANY DEVELOPER REALLY HAS IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

AND EVEN IF THEY DID, I HAVE DOUBTS WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN REALLY HELP STOP THE PROBLEM OF POSSIBLY FLOODING THE ACCESS, UH, THAT IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE PROMOTING THREE DIFFERENT ACCESSES.

AND YOU'RE TALKING IF, IF EVERY ONE OF THOSE PER WHAT DWELLINGS HAVE TWO CARS, THAT'S 194 CARS AND YOU GOT THREE ACCESS TO THAT.

64 CARS PER EXIT PER DAY.

THAT IS AN, A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

180 3 OF COURSE, WAS A DANGER, BUT TO RUN THEM THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION, LIKE WHAT WAS SAID BEFORE OUR STREET ON HERNANDO'S LOOP, IT IS A LOOP AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A LOOP.

AND IT HAS JUST, YOU CAN'T, IT'S NOT A TWO WAY STREET.

YOU JUST BARELY PASS EACH OTHER ON THE STREET.

AND BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF PARKING, THE SPACE OF A LOT OF PEOPLE PARK PARTIALLY ON THE STREET, RIGHT OFF THE STREET.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON THAT STREET, COMMENDED SAFETY ISSUE ON THAT STREET.

AND, YOU KNOW, LASTLY, SOME OF THE THINGS HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED IN BEFORE IS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE COMPATIBLE.

IF WE HAVE A SUBDIVISION AND YOU BUILD ANOTHER SUBDIVISION NEXT TO IT, YOU WANT IT TO BE COMPATIBLE TO YOUR SUBDIVISION.

WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THE BACK OF A YARD, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAS WHAT ONE TIME PROPOSED TO THE HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET.

WE'RE GOING TO BE MORE LIKE TRACK HOMES AND THERE'D BE TWO HOUSES FOR EVERY ONE OF OURS.

AND WE WERE LOOKING AT THE BACKYARD OF THEM ANOTHER NEW MINUTE TIME.

IT WAS SUPPOSED, THEY WERE BUILDING A THREE STORY, TWO STORY, APARTMENT COMPLEXES, AND THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD A NICE, BIG, PRETTY BRICK WALL THAT I'M LOOKING AT WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS ON THE OTHER SIDE, LOOKING AT THE BACKS OF THESE HOUSES.

SO,

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AND YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE THE TIME AND THE EFFORT AND THE ABILITY TO BUILD HOMES OR WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD IS GOING TO MATCH OUR COMMUNITY SO THAT WE'RE LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS AT LEAST ATTRACTIVE, BUT ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

THE MAIN POINT, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HOPE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND IS THAT THAT PROPERTY IS PRIMARILY FLOODPLAIN.

THERE'S BEEN THERE LIKE THE, LIKE DARYL SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTY OVER THERE.

NOW THAT'S MOSTLY WATER AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER.

AND, UH, TO NOT APPROVE THIS WOULD AT LEAST SAVE THE DEVELOPER.

WHOEVER WANTS TO DEVELOP A LOT OF MONEY.

CAUSE THEY KEEP ON SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY TO DEVELOP THIS ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT THEY CAN'T.

AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH THEY HAVE DONE TO RESEARCH THAT, BUT IN THE PAST THEY DIDN'T RESEARCH ENOUGH ON, THEY FIND OUT IT'S GOING TO COST WAY MORE MONEY THAN THEY WERE WILLING TO INVEST.

SO THANK YOU.

MA'AM THANK YOU.

JUST SO, UH, PETER TOLEDO, AND IF I'M MISPRONOUNCING, ANYONE'S NAME MY APOLOGIES UPFRONT.

THANK YOU, SIR, SIR.

PLEASE SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD.

AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

YOU'RE TOLEDO 21 IN ONE MRO, DIAL DRIVE.

YOU KNOW, MIND YOU, IF I READ IT ON AUGUST, THE FIRST WE RECEIVED FROM OUR NEIGHBOR, A COPY OF A PROPOSED PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING IN REGARDS TO A PLAN SUBDIVISION AS OF AUGUST 11 TODAY, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED SUCH A NOTICE NOR DID THE NOTICE SHOW WHERE THE HEARING WAS TO BE HELD.

IT WAS A PO BOX ON AUGUST TWO.

I DID SEND AN EMAIL TO THE CASE PLANNER INQUIRING AS TO THE PARTICULARS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

AND HE RE HE REPLIED ON EIGHT, THREE, COPY ATTACHED.

IT SHOULD NOT BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE NEIGHBORS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT TO SEARCH AND ASK FOR DETAILS.

BUT IF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO FURNISH THEM TO US, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SHOULD AT LEAST GIVE US INFORMATION.

HOW MANY LOTS THIS PARCEL IS DIVIDED INTO AND NOT JUST A LOT OUTLINE WITH A PARCEL NUMBER, A CONCEPTUAL MAP, SHOWING LOTS STREETS AND OPEN SPACE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

ACCORDING TO MINISTER GENACHOWSKI EMAIL, THE PARCEL OF 43 ACRES IS PLANNED TO ENCOMPASS ABOUT 97 SINGLE FAMILY, LOTS, WHICH COMES OUT TO A LESSON THIRD ACRE LOT AND NOT SHOWING ANY STREETS OR THE 10 ACRE PARK PARKLAND.

THERE ARE AT THE PRESENT TWO XS EXIT PLACES, USAA 180 3 AND COUNTY COURT LANE WITH A POSSIBLE EXIT TO HERNANDEZ LOOP, WHICH MOST LIKELY WOULD BE USED BY THOSE RESIDENTS, WHICH INTEND TO ACCESS US 180 3 NORTHBOUND.

THOSE WHO WANT TO TRAVEL ON BAGHDAD ROAD WOULD HAVE TO USE COUNTY CORK LANE.

AND MY QUESTION IS THIS HAVE ALL THE RESIDENTS OF COUNTY COURT BEEN NOTIFIED OF THIS PROJECT AND ITS TRAFFIC IMPACT.

WE ARE ASKED TO COMMENT ON A CONCEPT PLAN WITHOUT GIVING US ANY IDEA WHAT THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

AND MR. EMAILED THE WORD FLOOD PLAIN IS MENTIONED IS A SUBDIVISION AT ALL POSSIBLE ON THIS ACCOUNT.

IF I WOULD TELL ANYONE A FEW COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU'RE GOING ON A TRIP WITH ME, BE READY AT EIGHT O'CLOCK TOMORROW MORNING AND GIVE YOU NOT ANY DETAILS AS TO WHERE TO LEAH, WHAT TRAVEL METHOD OR THE DESTINATION YOU WOULD CALL ME IN CONSIDERATE.

PLEASE PUT YOURSELF IN OUR PLACE AND HOW YOU WOULD REACT TO THE JULY 27 LETTER YESTERDAY.

I ACCESSED THE ONLINE MEETING AGENDA AND THERE WAS NO MORE INFORMATION THAT I BOUGHT THE LETTER OF JULY 27, 22 CONTAINED.

UH, IT IS SUPPLYING WITH DEPARTMENT RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE US THE INFORMATION, NOT FOR US TO DIG.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE GO TO WORK EVERY DAY.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO THAT.

SO FROM WHAT I SEE NOW, UH, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. JULIO AT JOE GALA.

GOOD EVENING.

I LIVE AT 4 1 4 HERNANDEZ LOOP FOR 38 YEARS.

I BUILT MY HOUSE THERE 38 YEARS AGO BECAUSE IT WAS THE LOOP BECAUSE THERE WASN'T GOING TO BE ANY ACCESS TO THE LOOP BESIDES THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING ON THE LOOP AND GOING IN AND OUT OF THAT ONE ENTRANCE, UH, I FRAMED AND HELPED BUILD, UH, PROBABLY A QUARTER OF THE HOUSES FROM A LOOP AND A LOT OF THE HOUSING COUNTY GLAND FROM 1976 TO 1984 WITH A GENTLEMAN NAMED KENNETH WILEY.

AGAIN, THE LOOP WAS ATTRACTIVE BECAUSE IT WAS THE LOOP BECAUSE WE COULD RAISE OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS ON THE LOOP.

MY QUESTIONS ARE WHAT WOULD BE DONE ABOUT THE ACTIVE WILDLIFE THAT'S ON THE LOOP IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE HAD AN EXCESS OF 15 TO 20 DEER COME THROUGH THERE BEFORE THAT.

AND THERE WERE A FEW COMING IN THERE BECAUSE THE DEER IN

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THE AREA HAVE NO PLACE ELSE TO GO.

THAT IS THE ONLY PLACE THEY'RE GOING RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU SEE ONE KILLED UP ON 180 3, WELL, IF A DEVELOPMENT STARTS THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT MORE DEER BEING KILLED THERE.

AND THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WILDLIFE THERE.

I MEAN, FOXES, RACCOONS, BIRDS, GALORE AND STUFF.

I MEAN, NOBODY'S REALLY ADDRESSED THAT AND THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

UM, HOW WILL YOU NAVIGATE TO TURN ON THE SOUTHEAST END OF HERNANDEZ LOOP? IT'S A VERY SHARP TURN.

UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

THEY DIDN'T ADDRESS THAT THIS IS EXTREMELY VAGUE.

I'M A CONTRACTOR MYSELF, I BELIEVE IN PROGRESS, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS ABOUT THIS.

I'M SITTING THERE.

I GO ON THERE, THERE'S NO INFORMATION AND WE DIDN'T GET ANY INFORMATION JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID.

UM, WE BUILT OUR HOUSE IN LOOP BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED TRAFFIC.

UH, AND FROM WHAT I'VE GATHERED, THERE COULD BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 150, 200 MORE CARS COMING ON THE LOOP, UH, IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT, FROM WHAT I'VE READ, UH, HOME BUYERS GO DOWN 10%.

WHO'S GONNA ADDRESS THAT.

ARE WE GOING TO GET A 40 TO $50,000 CHECK? CAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING THERE.

I MEAN, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE HOUSE HAS BE FACING THE SOUTH SIDE, OR IT WOULD BE FACING THE BACK OF THE HOUSES, WHAT SIZE HOUSES AND WHAT LOTS WILL BE BUILT, WHETHER IT BE AN EASEMENT FACING THE SOUTH SIDE OF HERNANDEZ LOOP, WHAT KIND OF FENCING WE USE FOR THE HOUSE IS WHAT BUILDERS WILL BE BUILDING.

HOW ABOUT 60% OF THE HOMEOWNERS ON THE LOOP ARE RETIRED, THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED HERE TONIGHT.

AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE RETIRED THERE FOR THE ERASION TO SEE THE WILDLIFE AND THE BIRDS AND RAISE THEIR GRANDKIDS THERE AND NOT SEE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CARS GOING BY THEIR HOUSE.

NOW, 38 YEARS IN MY HOME, I HAVEN'T BEEN PUT FOLLOWED.

I'VE BEEN CLOSE.

OKAY.

THIS IS MY ORIGINAL PLOT RIGHT HERE.

HERE'S THE LOOP.

THAT WAS A FLOODPLAIN.

I WAS TOLD THE NIGHT BY THE ARCHITECTURE DEVELOPERS OR WHOEVER IT WAS.

IT'S A LOT MORE THAN THAT NOW.

OKAY.

THAT'S A LOT OF WATER AND I'VE SEEN IT.

I'VE SEEN IT GET REALLY BAD OVER THERE.

THE, UH, I HAVE A LOT STUFF TO SAY HERE.

MY MAIN THINGS, UH, SUGGESTIONS THAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO HELP.

I'M NOT FOR THIS FOR SURE.

BUT IF IT HAPPENS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ENTRANCE.

GOT ME.

FINISH YOUR SENTENCE, SIR.

THE ANSWER IS, UH, AND THAT'S GOING TO ADDRESS THIS TONIGHT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S JUST A LOT, I HAVE TO SAY.

SO ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO GIVE UP THEIR TIME? UH, NO, BUT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, MATT BRIEFLY, SIR, IF YOU'D SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

HELLO EVERYBODY.

I'M AT ROUGHLY.

I LIVE AT 2 0 2 HERNANDO SLOOP.

I MOVED THERE NOT EVEN A YEAR AGO.

UM, I AM A RETIRED MILITARY POLICE INVESTIGATOR.

MANY OF THOSE YEARS I SPENT AS A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT INVESTIGATOR.

I AM CURRENTLY A REALTOR.

I SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST MY OPINION.

IT'S MY EXPERIENCE AND AREA OF EXPERTISE.

UM, AS A HOMEOWNER ON A HERNANDEZ LOOP, I OWN A COUPLE OF THE LOTS.

I'M CURRENTLY SELLING ONE OF THE OTHER LOTS ON THE PROPERTY.

AND I'M ALSO KIND OF REPRESENTING SOME OF THE OTHER ELDERLY NEIGHBORS THAT COULDN'T GET HERE TONIGHT.

SO JUST MYSELF, I'M REPRESENTING OVER 10% OF HERNANDEZ LOOP.

UM, I'M NOT AGAINST BUILDING PROGRESS WILL HAPPEN.

CHANGE WILL COME, BUT THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT YOU STARTED TO HEAR ABOUT TONIGHT THAT ARE MAJOR AREAS OF CONCERN.

UM, THE FIRST ONE, OF COURSE, BEING TRAFFIC, THE ROADS THROUGHOUT HERNANDEZ LOOP, THEY LOOK KIND OF STRAIGHT.

THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE 18 FEET WIDE.

THAT IS THE BARE MINIMUM THAT NITSA OR TEXTILE AND THE TRAFFIC, UH, HIGHWAY SAFETY ADMINISTRATION HAS SAID THAT AN URBAN RESIDENTIAL ROAD CAN BE MOST OF THAT AREA.

IT'S NOT AN INCH WIDER TO INCLUDE IN THE CURVES, WHICH MAKES IT EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.

IF YOU'VE GOT TWO CARS TRYING TO GO THROUGH THERE, IF YOU HAVE NEIGHBORS PARKING ON, ON THE EDGE OF THEIR PROPERTIES, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA THAT HAVE EXTENDED FAMILY COME.

THEY, UH, SO THE ROADS OFTEN BECOME REALLY NARROW.

ONE LANE, AMAZON TRUCKS, FEDEX DELIVERY CANNOT GET THROUGH THERE A LOT OF TIMES AS YOU COME IN BECAUSE WE ARE A LOOP THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN ONE WAY OUT.

WE HAVE 11 CHILDREN RIGHT THERE AT THAT ENTRANCE.

I HAVEN'T LIVED THERE A YEAR AND I'VE REPLACED TWO MAILBOXES.

UM, IF YOU ADD ENTRANCES, WHICH THIS MAP IS NOT ACCURATE, I'VE SEEN THE PROPOSAL THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT BUILDING THEY'RE GOING TO BE TWO ENTRANCES COMING OFF, HERNANDEZ LOOP, GOING INTO THEIR DEVELOPMENT, WHERE THE ARROW IS AND THE GREEN AREA MOVE THAT OVER TO WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE SOLID YELLOW PART OF LAND.

THAT'S WHERE THEIR BRIDGE IS GOING TO BE.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO INTERESTS OFF OF HERNANDEZ LOOP ON A ROAD THAT CURRENTLY CANNOT BARELY SUPPORT THE TRAFFIC FLOW THAT IT HAS.

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UH, WE HAVE MOTHERS WITH STROLLERS.

WE HAVE JOGGERS, I SEE YOUNG MEN EVERY DAY WITH BACKPACKS RUNNING THROUGH TRAINING FOR MILITARY ENTRANCE.

PEOPLE USE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY SAFE PLACE TO REALLY RUN EXERCISE AND GET A DAILY WALK IN.

UM, IF YOU ADD 97 HOMES THERE, YOU'RE ADDING AT LEAST 200 CARS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE PROBABLY BOTH WORKING.

YOU MAY HAVE SOME TEENAGERS, MAYBE EXTENDED FAMILY LOOKING AT THEIR PROPOSAL.

MOST OF THOSE LOTS IN THE GREEN AREA ARE GOING TO BE 50 FEET WIDE.

MY HOME IS WIDER THAN THAT.

THE PROPERTY WILL BE ONLY 50 FEET WIDE ON WHAT THEIR PROPOSALS ARE.

YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE WILDLIFE.

YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE FLOODING.

I DO WANT TO JUST ADD, THERE ARE WATT WILD COYOTES AND BOBCATS THAT JUST HAD A LITTER.

DAVID WEISS, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TOLD ME THAT.

UH, SO THERE'S, WHO'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT DANGEROUS WILDLIFE, NOT JUST DEER, BUT COYOTES AND BOBCATS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. ROUGHLY, AND THAT SPAWN SELLER, IF YOU'LL SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADJUSTMENT TO THE MICROPHONE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND HAD SPAWN SELLER FOR TWO HERNANDO'S LOOP.

I'M GOING TO KIND OF TALK FAST CAUSE I HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.

TALKING, FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THAT WAS ACTUALLY ESTABLISHED IN 19 68, 10 YEARS BEFORE THE CITY OF LEANDER WAS EVEN ESTABLISHED.

THAT'S HOW OLD THIS CITY, THIS, THIS AREA IS.

UM, AND THE ROADS WERE BUILT THEN, BUT FIRST I'D LIKE TO SAY, THIS IS A, NOT, THIS IS NOT A, NOT IN MY BACKYARD SITUATION.

I UNDERSTAND THE ZONING ON THIS LOT AND THIS CONCEPT PLAN.

THAT'S NOT IT.

I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT IF THIS PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED, IT WILL HELP THE FLOODING WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THE HISTORY OF WHAT MR. WEISS DID TO TRY TO BACKFILL IT.

AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT CAUSED SOME OF THE FLOODING ISSUES.

SO I, I THINK IF IT WAS CLEARED AND DEVELOP THAT IT WOULD POTENTIALLY HELP THE ISSUE KNOWING WHAT FEMA HAS TO RECOMMEND AND APPROVE FOR THAT PROPERTY.

BUT MY PROBLEM IS, IS THE ACCESS POINTS.

UM, ACCORDING TO THE CONCEPT PLAN, IT STATES THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD PRODUCE APPROXIMATELY 2000 AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS.

AND INSTEAD OF A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, THEY WOULD JUST PAY A FEE IN LIEU.

THIS IS PROBLEMATIC CONCERNING THE STATE OF OUR ROADS.

THEY WERE NOT DESIGNED FOR THIS TYPE OF TRAFFIC AS EVIDENCED BY THE DETERIORATION OF THE EXISTING ROADS AND ROADWAY AND THE ROADWAY CONDITIONS, ASSESSMENT PRESENTED AND SUB AT THE SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2020 COUNCIL MEETING.

THIS ASSESSMENT SHOWED THAT HERNANDEZ LOOP WAS IN FAIR CONDITION, NOT GOOD, NOT SATISFACTORY, BUT FAIR CONDITION.

IT ALSO SHOWED THAT COUNTY CORK AND EMERALD ISLE WERE IN VERY POOR CONDITION WITH A SCORE OF 26 TO 40.

WHEREAS SATISFACTORY IS A SCORE OF 71 TO 85.

HOW WILL THIS WOULD BE ADDRESSED? I KNOW THAT RECENTLY THEY THREW SOME RESURFACING ON THAT ROAD, BUT THAT IS NOT GOING TO HELP.

UM, WITH THIS KIND OF TRAFFIC, THERE ARE 33 RESIDENTS ON HERNANDO'S LOOP.

IF YOU CALCULATE TWO CARS PER DAY IN TWO TRIPS PER DAY, THAT EQUATES TO 132 TRIPS ON THAT ROAD COMPARED TO APPROXIMATELY WELL OVER THAT TRIPLE QUADRUPLE, POSSIBLY WITH THE ADDITION OF THESE ACCESS POINTS, KIDS PLAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE HAVE NO SIDEWALKS, NO CURBS, VERY POOR DRAINAGE, WHICH WE'VE HAD FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

THE CITY HAS PASSED BONDS TO HELP WITH THAT DRAINAGE AND THAT MONEY WAS MISUSED.

SO THAT FLOODING STILL CONTINUES.

ANOTHER PROBLEM, UM, IS SEEING THAT, UH, WE HAVE NO ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN FROM THE CITY CONCERNING THE ROADS.

THIS MAKES ME REALIZE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CONSIDERABLE QUALITY ISSUES ON OUR ROADS SAYING THAT THE ACCESS POINTS WOULD DEVIN DEFINITELY NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE EXISTING RESIDENCES WHILE I THINK THIS WOULD BE A FINE PLACE TO DEVELOP WHAT THEY WANT.

IT'S ZONED FOR THAT.

UM, I WOULD SUGGEST ANY ACCESS POINTS MINUS 180 3 B EMERGENCY ONLY.

UM, AND THEN THAT WOULD CLOSE IT OFF TO NOT HAVE THAT TRAFFIC THROUGH, BUT IF THEY NEEDED TO EVACUATE OR EMERGENCY VEHICLES NEEDED TO GET IN THERE, THEY WOULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE ENOUGH ACCESS TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM ALEXI KEATON.

HI, MS. KEATON, YOU'LL HAVE, UH, IF YOU SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, YOU MIGHT NEED TO PULL IT DOWN A LITTLE FOR YOU.

YOU DON'T HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

OKAY.

MY NAME'S ALEXI KIA AND I LIVE AT 2 0 3 HERNANDEZ, ZIP.

I DON'T WANT THE ROADS TO GET, UM, WHAT'S IT CALLED? OPEN TO THE SUBWAYS BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO RIDE MY BIKE AND I FEEL LIKE IT'D BE BUSY.

AND MY MOM'S

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STARTED BE NOT LIKE IT'D BE NOT SAFE FOR ME TO DO THAT.

AND WHEN ALSO WHEN IT FLOODS, WHEN I GO TO MY BUS, IT'S HARD TO GO.

CAUSE LIKE THE WATER'S UP TO MY FEET, LIKE HIGHER, LIKE TO MY, UM, WHAT'S IT CALLED? NIECE? SORRY.

AND WHEN I PLAY BASKETBALL AND MY FRONT YARD TOO, BECAUSE I USED TO HAVE A HOOP THERE AND YEAH, THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM SORRY.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

SHE STILL HAS SOME TIME.

YES, MA'AM I'LL ENTERTAIN IT.

UM, WE ARE AT THE FRONT OF HERNANDO'S SLOOP AND ALL THE WATER COMES DOWN THE END OF THE ROAD AND THE ROAD USED TO BE LEVEL WITH MY DRIVEWAY AND NOW IT IS UP HIGHER AND TILTED TOWARDS OUR PROPERTY.

SO ALL OF THE WATER COMES OFF OF HERNANDO'S LOOP AND DRAINS INTO OUR FRONT YARD.

AND THEN WE HAVE OFF COUNTY, GLEN BIG DITCHES THAT TRAVEL ALL THE WATER FROM BAGHDAD ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HERNANDEZ LOOP.

THE DITCHES ARE PROBABLY AS WIDE AS OUR STREET, BUT WHENEVER IT HITS HERNANDEZ LOOP, IT GOES UNDER THE DITCH.

AND THE DRAINAGE AREA IS ONLY A FOOT OR TWO WIDE.

IT'S BASICALLY DAMMED UP BECAUSE THERE'S DEBRIS THERE THERE'S TRASH.

THERE THERE'S STUMPS THERE.

UM, I HAVE CONTACTED MR. WATSON WHEN HE WAS THE ENGINEER.

HE AGREED TO COME OUT THAT IT DID BOTTLENECK.

SO IT PREVENTS THE FLOW OF WATER DOWN AND IT CAN NO LONGER CONTINUE TO FLOW.

HE WAS SUPPOSED TO SEND SOMEBODY OUT TO REMOVE ALL THE DEBRIS AND OPEN IT UP TO HELP THE WATER GO FASTER.

ALL WE'RE DOING BY MAKING THE DISHES AND THE CONCRETE UP FURTHER BAGHDAD ROAD AND COUNTY, GLEN IS MAKING THE WATER FLOW FASTER TO WHERE IT ENDS UP AT HERNANDEZ LOOP AND COUNTY GLEN AND BOTTLE'S NECK.

AND IT BACKS UP.

SO THE WATER ENDS UP GOING PROBABLY HALFWAY UP MY YARD.

UM, AND THE KIDS CAN NOT CROSS THE DRIVEWAY TO GO TO THE BUS.

I HAVE TO PICK THEM UP AND CARRY THEM.

IT'S WELL ABOVE OUR ANKLES, I HAVE CONTACTED THE CITY COUNCIL.

I HAVE CONTACTED THE MAYOR.

THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE DAY ONE.

AND I DO KNOW THAT THE ROAD WAS LEVEL.

WHENEVER WE BOUGHT THE HOME, SHE WAS SIX MONTHS OLD.

SHE LEARNED HER RIDE.

HER TRAINING WILL BIKE.

SHE WOULD GO OUT THE DRIVEWAY INTO THE STREET, TURN AROUND.

THEY CAME IN THERE, THEY BUILT THE STREET UP AND SHE COULD NO LONGER GET TO THE STREET.

SHE DID NOT HAVE THE LEG POWER TO PUSH HERSELF UP THE DRIVEWAY TO GET INTO THE STREET.

SO I'D HAVE TO CONSTANTLY PUSH HER OUT INTO THE STREET SO SHE CAN GAIN ACCESS.

I WAS TOLD BY MR. WATTS.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

THAT I'M NOT AN ENGINEER AND I HAD TO GET A SURVEY, BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE AN ENGINEER TO SEE THE, WHERE THE WATER FLOWS AND HOW GRAVITY WORKS.

YES MA'AM.

AND CAN YOU JUST SPEAK YOUR NAME INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD AND AFTER TWO OR THREE HERNANDEZ SLIP.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM AND WE'LL HAVE YOU FILL OUT A CARD AS WELL, SINCE WE GIVE YOU SOME TIME.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM AND, UM, CHARLES, RIGHT? MR. WRIGHT, IF YOU SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.

YES, SIR.

MY NAME IS CHARLES WRIGHT AND MY WIFE AND I LIVE AT FOUR 12.

HERNENDEZ SALUTE.

THAT'S WHERE THE BIG ARROW IS UP THERE AND YES, I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 36 YEARS.

MY WIFE AND I AND JOE GILLUM DID BUILD MY HOUSE.

AND THESE FOLKS HAVE SAID EVERYTHING MUCH MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN I COULD, BUT THERE'S ONE THING I CAN ADD IS THAT THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER CAME OUT THERE AND HIS ENGINEER SPENT OVER $50,000 AND THEY FOUND OUT IT WASN'T COST EFFECTIVE TO MEET ALL THE STATE COUNTY AND FEDERAL LAWS TO MAKE THAT PLACE AS SAFE FOR THE WATER.

AND YES, THE WATER DOES RUN DOWN THERE.

NO, THAT MAP THE LITTLE RED LINE, I THINK IT'S SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE ANCIENT CREEK BED.

AND ACCORDING TO THE MAPS, UP IN GEORGETOWN WITH MY MORTGAGE COMPANY AND THE INSURANCE COMPANY TOLD ME TO GO THOSE RED LINES, THAT ANCIENT CREEK BED TOUCHES MY PIN ON THE LIGHT POLE THAT'S OUT THERE, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE NOT BACK IN THERE.

SO I DIDN'T DRAW THE MAPS AND THAT ANCIENT CREEK BED IS THERE.

AND AFTER THEY IMPROVED OUR ROADS AND GAVE US THAT BEAUTIFUL RIBBON KIRBY NEAR, WHICH WE NEVER HAD, I WENT, OUR PROPERTY USED TO BE ON A 500 YEAR FLOOD, PLAIN.

AND I SAID, OKAY, AFTER THE IMPROVEMENTS WERE MADE IN THE LARGER COVERT, WHICH DOESN'T REALLY WORK, WE'RE DONE BY INSURANCE COMPANY.

AND THE MORTGAGE COMPANY NOTIFIED ME THAT I AM IN A HIGH FLOOD PLAYING RISK AND I'M GONE SCRATCHING MY HEAD GOING, HOW DOES THAT WORK? YOU'VE MADE AN IMPROVEMENT AND I'VE GONE FROM A LOW RISK, 500 YEAR FLOODPLAIN TO A HIGH RISK.

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WHY DID WE IMPROVE? SO I COULD GO BACKWARDS.

BUT ANYHOW, THEY'VE ALL SAID EVERYTHING LIKE I COULD SAY, BUT THE SAFETY ISSUE WITH THE CARS, CAUSE I LIVE ON THAT CORNER.

YOU DO NOT COME AROUND THOSE CORNERS, TWO CARS OPPOSING EACH OTHER ONE.

YOU WAIT.

AND AFTER 36 YEARS YOU, YOU LEARN TO WAIT, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE ACCIDENTS THERE.

AND THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE INVOLVED AND HEAVEN FORBID THEY HAPPEN ON MY CORNER CAUSE I WILL NOT.

OH, ONE OTHER THING.

THE MAP IS MY NEIGHBOR ROOSTER.

I MEAN, CAROL, HE GAVE ME THE MATH.

WE HEARD THE KNOCK ON THE DOOR.

BY THE TIME WE GOT TO THE DOOR, THE MAN WAS GONE.

THE NEXT DAY, DARRYL SAYS, I GOT A MAP.

DID YOU? I SAID, NO, HE LEFT IT IN MY DOOR.

AND I SAID, YOU DIDN'T LEAVE ONE OF MY DOOR.

THAT'S NOT A VERY FRIENDLY WAY TO START OUT.

FOLKS NOT FRIENDLY OF TALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. WRIGHT.

THAT'S THE LAST COMMENT CARD I HAD OR PEOPLE SIGN UP THE SPEAKERS OR ANYONE ELSE HERE TONIGHT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THAT HAS FELT LIKE, YES, SIR.

IF YOU'LL COME UP AND SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

AND ONCE YOU'RE DONE, I'LL JUST ASK YOU TO PLEASE GET A CARD TO FILL OUT FOR US.

UH, LIONEL JOHNSON.

I LOOK AT THIS 700 NEW CASTLE LANE AND THE DESCRIPTION OF THE ROADS, I THINK HAS BEEN GENEROUS.

YOU DON'T HAVE CARS PASS EACH OTHER THERE UNLESS THEY'RE BIG RISK TAKERS LIKE TEENAGERS, BUT THE REST OF US DON'T WE PULL OVER AND LET THE OTHER CAR GO BY.

THE OTHER THING THAT YES, THE CITY OF LAND, OR CAN BARELY SUPPLY THE WATER NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.

NOW, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH ANOTHER, WHAT 2000 PEOPLE HERE, YOU GOT TO TRUCK IN THE WATER FORM.

THE OTHER THING IS THIS HERNANDEZ LOOP FLOOD PLAIN.

IT ISN'T GOING TO GET BETTER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

THE IS GOING TO RAISE THE LEVEL OF THE, OF LAND DOWN TOWARDS THE 180 3.

AND THAT WILL INCREASE IN A CREASE.

THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT FLOODS HERNANDEZ LOOP.

IT'S NOT GOING TO GET BETTER.

THE OTHER THING IS 180 3 IN THE MORNING AND EVENING IS JUST ALMOST A TR A PARKING LOT.

IT'S THAT BUSY.

SO YOU ADD ANOTHER 2000 TRIPS THROUGH THERE IN THE MORNING.

YES, WE'RE GOING TO BECOME AN ABSOLUTE PARKING LOT.

AND WE, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET FROM OUR HOME TO SOMEPLACE ELSE RATHER THAN HAVE TO TIME OUR TRIP SO THAT WE HOPEFULLY GET THERE AFTER MORNING RUSH HOUR, BEFORE EVENING RUSH HOUR OR AFTER RE EVENING RUSH HOUR.

AND THAT, THAT JUST IS A TREMENDOUS, UH, PAIN FOR US AND A LOAD FOR US.

WE, WE, WE BOUGHT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT WAS A COUNTRY LOOKING NEIGHBORHOOD, LOW TRAFFIC.

NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INCREASING OUR TRAFFIC BY AT LEAST 10, PERHAPS A HUNDRED TIMES WHAT IT WAS.

AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE DRIVING THROUGH.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME DOWN COUNTY CORK.

THEY'RE GOING TO GO DOWN EMERIL, OHIO.

THEY'LL BE COMING DOWN CASTLE, UH, TO GET THERE.

AND IF THERE ARE ONLY INGRESS AND EGRESS IS ON 180 3, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LONG LINES OF PEOPLE BACKED UP TO GET IN THERE AND GET OUT OF THERE.

THIS, THIS WHOLE THING IS ILL-CONCEIVED AND THE COST IS GOING TO BE TREMENDOUS.

IF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED BY THE CITY AND IT INCREASES THE FLOODING FOR THOSE PEOPLE IN HERNANDEZ LOOP, IS THE CITY GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT? I DOUBT YOU WILL.

SO YOU JUST SHOULDN'T BE BURDENING THOSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUT THERE WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF GREATER FLOODS AND THAT W YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE BEEN ON WATER RATIONING SINCE THE, THE ICE STORM, AND WE WILL CONTINUE BECAUSE WE JUST, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HANDLE THE WATER.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO MY PRESENTATION? YES, SIR.

YOU MAY.

AND PETER TOLEDO, 2101 EMMERDALE.

UM, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE CITY PURCHASES PROPERTY AND MAKE IT A CITY PARK.

THANK YOU.

YES.

MA'AM.

YOU WANTED TO SPEAK, IF YOU, UH, PLEASE, UH, SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

MY NAME IS SUSAN MANARY AND I LIVE AT 4 0 9 HERNANDO'S LOOP TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO WHEN MY HUSBAND AND I WERE LOOKING FOR A LOVELY PLACE TO

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RETIRE.

WE CHOSE A HOME IN THAT LOOP FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT EVERYONE HERE HAS TALKED ABOUT.

IT'S QUIET, IT'S INSULATED.

THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN AND OUT.

WE HAVE NO TRAFFIC TO SPEAK OF.

NOW.

I KNOW WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT PASS EACH OTHER AND SO FORTH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY COMING THROUGH THERE.

THAT'S IN A HURRY TO GET ANYWHERE.

AND WE DON'T WANT THAT.

I DON'T WANT THE DANGER.

I DON'T WANT THE NOISE.

UM, I DON'T WANT THE LACK OF, UM, CONSIDERATION FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, WHICH IS HOW I FEEL.

THIS IS NOW.

I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY NOTIFICATION.

IF IT WEREN'T FOR ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS, I WOULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT.

I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS AT ALL.

GOT NO LETTER, SONOS SCIENCE, NOTHING.

SO I JUST CAN THROW MY HAT IN WITH WHAT ALL EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID.

UM, AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE MY SAY SO THANK YOU.

YES MA'AM.

THANK YOU, MISS MANNERS.

UH, IS THERE ANYONE, ELLEN, WHERE ARE THE CARDS THAT THEY'RE IN THE LOBBY, CORRECT? YEP.

YES, SIR.

SO, MS. MANARY AND SIR, IF YOU WOULD, UH, WOULDN'T MIND FILLING OUT A CARD FOR US.

YES.

MA'AM.

IF YOU'LL SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS NANCY GILKER I'M AT 6 0 4 SHANNON CIRCLE, WHICH IS, DOES IT SHOW UP ANYWAY WAY SOUTH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE COUNTY GLEN NEIGHBORHOOD, ANYWAY, I'M ILL PREPARED BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ANY SIGNS, NOTHING.

FACEBOOK GROUP IS WHERE I SAW IT.

UM, JUST SOME BULLET POINTS, UH, POOR SIGNAGE.

I ALREADY SAID THAT, UM, CUT THROUGH CARS.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND IT'S RIGHT THROUGH COUNTY, GLEN.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET ON 180 3, NO, TOO CROWDED.

THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, UM, NO SIDEWALKS, WALKING, KIDS, WALKING DOGS, BABY STROLLERS.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE SAFE.

KIDS WAITING FOR THE BUS, UM, DRAINAGE REPAIR.

I FEEL FOR THESE PEOPLE IN HER NAME, THIS LOOP THAT I'M HEARING ABOUT TONIGHT, HOW BAD IT IS, THEY DID COUNTY GLEN.

THEY DID THOSE REALLY NICE DEEP CULVERT.

AND NOW HERE IT'S WASHING RIGHT IN THERE.

THEY DID IMPROVEMENTS ON A RUBY AISLE, BUT DIDN'T DO OUR HOUSE FOR SOME REASON.

AND MY HUSBAND'S A BUILDER.

HE TALKED TO THE CITY MULTIPLE TIMES WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE AND IT COMES ALMOST TO MY DOOR ON A RAINY DAY CAUSE WE HAVE DITCHES.

OKAY.

UM, SO, UH, AND THEN TRAFFIC, I THINK I ALREADY SAID THAT POOR ROADS, THE ROADS ARE NOT GOOD AT ALL.

AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THE CITY COMES OUT TO DO ANY KIND OF ROAD REPAIR, LET'S, YOU KNOW, LET'S SHOVEL SOME ASPHALT AND COVER IT UP AND SAY, WE'RE DONE.

SORRY TO SAY THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I SEE.

AND I THINK, UM, SOMEONE SPOKE, IT IS GOING TO GET DEVELOPED.

I MEAN, WE'RE, EVERYTHING IS GETTING DEVELOPED.

EVERY PIECE THAT'S OUT THERE, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE DONE PROPERLY AND CONSIDERATION FOR EVERYTHING AROUND IT.

AND AS FAR AS CONTAINING THAT WATER, BECAUSE THAT'S, UH, NOT GOOD FOR ANYONE AND IT'S GOING TO BE COSTLY.

LIKE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE SAID, SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. GOUCHER, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, PLEASE GRABBING A CARD FROM THE LOBBY AND FILLING IT OUT AND HANDED IT TO A LN DOWN THERE ON THE END.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, SIR.

IF YOU'D SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

HI, MY NAME IS JOHN .

UH, I LIVE ON A 6 0 6 NEW CASTLE, AND I WANT TO SPEAK PRIMARILY ABOUT THE ACCESS AT THE END OF COUNTY CORK.

UM, I CONCUR WITH WHAT EVERYBODY HAS SAID HERE TONIGHT, BUT I JUST WANT TO ADD A COUPLE MORE PIECES OF DETAIL.

UH, NEW CASTLE.

THERE ARE 17 HOMES ON NEW CASTLE LANE.

14 OF THOSE HOMES HAVE CHILDREN UNDER 13.

I HAVE TWO OF THEM.

THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS ON THAT ROAD, BUT THE CHILDREN PLAY ON THAT ROAD.

THEY RIDE THEIR BIKES ON THAT ROAD.

THEY WALK, PEOPLE GO ON WALKS EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.

IT'S SAFE FOR NOW.

UM, WE SHOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT ADDING MORE TRAFFIC TO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

WHAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT IS LOWERING SPEED LIMITS, ADDING SPEED BUMPS.

WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT ADD MORE SAFETY TO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

NOT ADD MORE DANGER.

UH, LET'S NOT BRING MORE TRAFFIC INTO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK SEEING NONE? I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE, SORRY.

OH, SORRY SIR.

COME ON UP.

MY NAME IS ED KELLY.

I LIVE AT 3 0 5 FERNANDO'S LOOP AND UH, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ACCESS.

UH, WE'VE BEEN ON A LOOP.

I'VE BEEN THERE FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS AND A LOT

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OF THE PEOPLE FROM COUNTY GLEN COME THERE, THE WALK THAT'S THEIR EVENING STROLL.

AND, UH, I'D I'D HATE WHEN YOU GOT, UH, SOMEBODY JUST HAVING A PARTY HALF THE STREET'S GONE.

THERE'S ONLY ONE, THAT'S A ONE TURNS INTO A ONE LANE STREET.

AND UH, THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, SIR.

SHAWNA RABBLE 302 HERNANDEZ LOOP, 2 0 3 HERNANDEZ LOOP.

THANK YOU.

I JUST, I JUST WANT TO ADD TWO THINGS.

UH, YOU KNOW, UH, MATT OVER HERE SPOKE ABOUT HIS MAILBOX, GETTING RUN OVER.

I WAS, I WAS AT THE STREET ONE TIME WHEN THAT MAILBOX DID GET RUN OVER WITH MY BACK, TURNED TO THE STREET, GETTING SOMETHING OUT OF THE BACK OF MY TRUCK AND IT WAS, IT WAS PRETTY LOUD.

UH, THE ROAD IS DANGEROUS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS AND IN POSSIBLY INCREASING THE TRAFFIC.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS LAID OUT, BUT OUR WATER METER IN THE HOUSE NEXT TO HIS WATER METER IS ROUGHLY TWO FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE STREET.

UH, THAT PRETTY MUCH ELIMINATES THE IDEA OF BUILDING A, DIG, A BIG DITCH TO, TO HELP WITH THE WATER DRAINAGE.

AND ALSO THAT ELIMINATES THE POSSIBILITY OF WIDENING THE ROAD.

IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE.

AND THAT'S, WE'RE GOING TO RE REDO WATER LINES AND ALL THAT.

SO JUST TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? AND I JUST ASKED THAT ANYONE WHO HASN'T FILLED OUT A COMMENT CARD ALREADY THAT CAME UP TO SPEAK TO PLEASE DO SO AND HAND IT TO ELLEN DOWN THE, ON THE END, UH, WITH NO ONE ELSE WANTING TO SPEAK, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION.

I'M GOING TO START WITH COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE, UH, WE'VE GOT SOME COMMUNICATION ISSUES THAT ARE OUT THERE ON NOTIFICATION, AND I HEARD MULTIPLE TIMES PEOPLE SAYING THEY HADN'T BEEN NOTIFIED AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THE, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS DONE A DECENT JOB IN TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO HERE OR WORKED WITH THE PEOPLE TO TRY TO COME TO A UNDERSTANDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON.

DO WE KNOW WHAT THE HISTORY IS THERE, MR. MICHAEL? SO, UH, WE DO REQUIRE THE 500 NOTICE FOR ZONING CASES.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER IS SEEKING TO USE THE EXISTING ZONING, UM, THEN THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION COMES FROM POSTING THOSE SIGNS UP, AND THEN, UH, THE CITY SENDING OUT THOSE LETTERS ARE THE REQUIREMENTS DIFFERENT, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT AT THAT POINT IN TIME FOR A CONCEPT PLAN, THEY ARE, I SEE SOME TROUBLE THERE.

YEAH.

UM, I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS THAT PEOPLE SAID THAT SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE AND DEVELOPMENT.

UM, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE, UH, THERE'S NOT THAT THERE COULD BE MORE COMMUNICATION ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT'S GOING IN THERE.

UH, IT'S JUST HEARTENING TO ME TO SEE THAT MANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS COME IN.

THIS IS, IS, IS A BIG, BIG TURNOUT.

AND I SALUTE YOU GUYS FOR CARING ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, AT THAT POINT I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPECIFIC ISSUES TO REALLY ADDRESS.

THANK YOU, ROBIN.

DID YOU WANT TO, YOU WERE READING AND FOR YOUR MICROPHONE, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, GREAT.

UH, COMMISSIONER ELECTRO, SINCE THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS, AND THEY'RE USING EXISTING ZONING AND NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCES WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY REQUIRED BY LAW TO APPROVE IT, WHICH SOUNDS VERY ODD.

AND I TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE REQUIRED TO VOTE FOR.

HOWEVER, I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE TO HEAR ALL OF THIS BECAUSE AT THE NEXT STAGE, IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS, WHEN WE CAN, UH, LAY MAN ON SOME OF THIS STUFF, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAD BEEN HERE TO HEAR THE CITIZENS AND, UH, W WE CAN'T HAVE A TWO WAY CONVERSATION FROM THE AUDIENCE, HE IS THE APPLICANT.

OKAY.

SO YOU ARE HERE.

OKAY.

YOU JUST DIDN'T HAVE A PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

SO YOU DID HEAR EVERYTHING WELL, THAT'S GOOD.

BECAUSE WHEN WE DO GET TO THE NEXT STAGE, WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THESE, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT WHERE THESE ENTRANCES ARE LOCATED.

SO THE, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

AND IT'S A SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE IF IT'S MEETING THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS, AND THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR A VARIANCE, THEN WE CAN'T MAKE CHANGES TO IT.

SO WE CAN WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO TRY TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS, BUT THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO.

OKAY.

UM, HMM.

I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO WITHHOLD FURTHER COMMENTS

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UNTIL SOME OTHERS HAVE HAD SOMETHING TO SAY.

UM, DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY COMING OUT OF WONDERING IF, SINCE THIS IS TECHNICALLY PLUS BE APPROVED BY LAW.

IF WE CAN POSTPONE THE APPROVAL FOR TIME FOR THE APPLICANT OR THE DEVELOPER TO TALK WITH THE COMMUNITY, KIND OF GIVE A BETTER EXPLANATION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT MOVING FORWARD.

SO THE COMMISSION'S NOT THE FINAL SAY ON THIS ONE, IT DOES GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL NEXT WEEK.

SO THEY DO HAVE THIS NEXT WEEK TO DISCUSS IT, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UH, A GOOD REASON TO POSTPONE IT.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

COMMISSIONER MALLS, WHAT IS A GOOD REASON TO POSTPONE IT? UM, IF IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, UM, IF THEY'RE NOT MEETING THE ZONING, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING, UH, RELATED TO THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.

UH, I'M NOT HAPPY RIGHT NOW, I'M UPSET BECAUSE ALL OF YOU ARE UPSET.

AND, UM, I JUST THINK THAT YOU'RE HERE, HE'S HERE.

UM, IT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR COMMUNICATION.

THE NOTICES NEED TO BE PUT UP APPROPRIATELY, AND IF THEY'RE NOT STAYING UP, THEN THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO COME OUT AND PUT THE NOTICES BACK UP AGAIN.

UM, UM, I'M GONNA WITHHOLD MY COMMENTS FOR RICK AND LET THE OTHER SPEAK COMMISSIONER, MAY I WROTE DOWN A BUNCH OF NOTES ON THIS.

I AM NOT HAPPY THAT THE TEXAS LAW MANDATES THAT WE APPROVE THIS, UM, SAFETY CONCERNS WITH THE DIRECTION IN WHICH THEY HAVE TO HAVE EGRESS AND INGRESS GOING IN POLICE AND FIRE REQUIRED THOSE TO GO THROUGH.

AND WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE INJURED BY THAT.

UH, THAT BEING SAID THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED $350 MILLION AND ROADWAYS IN OUR CITY THAT NEED TO BE IMPROVED UPON, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT, BUT, UH, THAT'S FOR CITY COUNCIL TO FIGURE OUT.

UM, BUT A LOT OF THE ROADS LIKE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS IS I SAT ON THE PREVIOUS HEARING.

I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER MEHAN DID AS WELL.

UM, AND IT, THIS HAS BEEN A PROBLEM, UM, FOR QUITE A WHILE.

I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE A LOOK AT FIXING SOME OF THESE THINGS.

I THINK THE DEVELOPER NEEDS TO SIT WITH THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND TALK THIS OUT.

THIS IS WHY I INITIALLY PUSHED FOR THESE NOTIFICATIONS.

IT WASN'T TO SAY, DEVELOPERS, YOU CAN'T DO THIS.

AND IT WASN'T FOR HOMEOWNERS TO SAY, FEEL LIKE SOMETHING'S BEING SNUCK IN ON THEM.

IT WAS TO OPEN UP COMMUNICATION BECAUSE IN A LOT OF THEM THAT WE LISTENED TO WHEN THE DEVELOPER SAT DOWN WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY WAS TOTALLY AT EASE WITH WHAT WAS GOING ON BECAUSE THEY HAD ADDRESSED ALL THESE ISSUES.

BUT WHEN THERE'S NO COMMUNICATION, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.

AND I REALLY BELIEVE IN COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

AND I KNOW THAT IT WASN'T REQUIRED TO THE INSTAGRAM, LIKE, UM, A ZONING CHANGE, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPERS JUST SIT DOWN WITH THESE PEOPLE.

I DON'T THINK IN MOST CASES, THEY'RE OUT OF BOUNDS AND WHAT THEY'RE THEY'RE SAYING, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I VISITED THIS PROPERTY AND I REALLY BELIEVE THE DEVELOPER'S GOING TO HAVE A REALLY DIFFICULT TIME GETTING THE ENGINEERING WITH THAT FLOOD PLAIN AND WHERE IT GOES UNDER 180 3 AND HOW IT'S FLOODING THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WE ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO APPROVE THIS.

AND THERE GOES, MY FRUSTRATION, NO NOTICE WAS REQUIRED ON THIS BECAUSE IT WASN'T, OR THERE, THERE WAS A DIFFERENT NOTIFICATION REQUIRED BASED ON SO YELLOW SIGNS DIDN'T HAVE TO BE UP.

SO WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE HAIR.

SO I'M SORRY, SIR.

THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A BACK AND FORTH, UM, COMMISSIONER LANTRIP.

DID YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE? OKAY.

CAUSE I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO RESERVE IT.

I THINK THEY'VE BEEN ADDRESSED.

I THINK OUR, I

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THINK WE'RE ALL RATHER FRUSTRATED BY THE FACT THAT WE, WE ARE REQUIRED TO VOTE FOR THIS WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY CONCERNS.

UM, I GUESS ALL WE CAN DO IS PASS THOSE CONCERNS ALONG TO THE COUNCIL, UH, AT THE NEXT STEP AND HAVE THAT IN THE NEXT PHASE OF THE PROCESS.

WE CAN ADDRESS A LOT OF THAT.

AND I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS BEFORE WE DO, UM, MAKE A MOTION FOR, FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TONIGHT.

DEVELOPER ENGAGEMENT.

I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

COMMISSIONER MAY, UH, KIND OF HINTED ON THAT A BIT.

AND WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION OR THE LACK THEREOF, UH, WITH THE CITIZENS WE'VE SEEN AS A COMMISSION THAT WHEN THE DEVELOPER ENGAGES WITH THE COMMUNITY, THAT IT'S NOT A NEGATIVE SHOWING, IT'S A POSITIVE SHOWING THE COMMUNITY COMES OUT AND SUPPORTS WHEN THEY KNOW AND THEY AGREE AND THEY UNDERSTAND.

AND I THINK A LOT OF THIS COMES FROM A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE THEY HAVE, BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN COMMUNICATED WITH.

AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID THERE FOR THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I I'M, I'M DEFINITELY, UM, IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, WHICH IS ALSO WHY WE AS A COMMISSION PUSH REALLY HARD FOR THE NOTIFICATION PIECES OF IT.

GRANTED WE'VE SAID THAT THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FOR THIS TYPE OF CASE.

UM, I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF GOING DOWN FOR AN ENDLESS LOOP.

PLENTY OF TIMES I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE QUITE A BIT.

UM, AND I'VE SEEN THE SIZE OF THE ROADWAYS.

I SEE THAT THERE'S NO PEDESTRIAN OR BIKE, UH, ABILITY WHEN YOU GOT CARS AND TRAFFIC MOVING THROUGH.

UM, AND THAT'S THE SAME WAY ACROSS OUR CITY.

AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY HAPPY WITH THAT.

I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN A BIG PROPONENT OF WHILE WE'RE BUILDING OUT THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

WHY DON'T WE PUT SOME OF THESE SIDEWALKS AND SOME OF THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS SO THAT WE CREATE SOME OF THAT ABILITY.

UM, AND SPEED MINUTES.

I KNOW ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN TALKED ABOUT SPEED LIMITS TONIGHT.

WHEN I MOVED IN SIX YEARS AGO, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DID IS WROTE THE CITY AND SAID, WHY ARE WE HAVING 30 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMITS ON 20 FOOT ROADS? LIKE TO ME, THAT'S CRAZY.

UM, BECAUSE I WORKED FOR COUNTY AT FIRST, BUT THEN THE COUNTY SAID THAT THE CITY HAS THE POWER OVER THAT.

SO WE AS A CITY HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THAT WE JUST HAVEN'T.

AND I'M REALLY, I HAVE NEVER BEEN A FAN OF A FEE IN LIEU OF A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

NEVER BEEN A FAN OF THAT, BUT I DON'T CREATE THAT ROLE.

THAT'S THAT'S NOT FOR US UP HERE.

SO, UM, WITH ALL THAT, I MEAN, COMMISSIONER ELANTRA SAID IT, UH, MR. READ IT AT THE VERY BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE NOTICE THAT WE ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO APPROVE THIS, UH, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.

AND, AND AS YOU CAN HEAR OUR FRUSTRATIONS, WE SHARE A LOT OF YOUR FRUSTRATIONS AS WELL.

THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD DO IS I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND I CAN'T DIRECT, BUT I'D RECOMMEND THAT STAFF WORK WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE APPLICANT TO HOPEFULLY ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ACCESS ISSUES, UH, WORK WITH ENGINEERS TO HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THESE, UM, UM, FLOODING ISSUES THAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT.

AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL I CAN DO AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF POWER GOING TOWARDS THAT.

YES, SIR.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD A LITTLE BIT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE, I MEAN, I'M, I'M FRUSTRATED WITH THIS TOO, BUT I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO HOLD SOME COMMUNITY OPEN DOOR MEETINGS WITH THESE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING AND YOU CAN PROBABLY COME UP WITH SOME RESOLUTIONS.

YOU PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE THEM ALL, BUT YOU CAN PROBABLY COME UP WITH SOME RESOLUTIONS FOR SOME OF THEM TO MAKE THEM FEEL MORE LIKE PART OF THE PROCESS, INSTEAD OF HAVING IT DONE, TWO OF THEM, THEY COULD BE WITH YOU ON THAT.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT.

AND AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AND THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM, AND I'M NOT GOING TO LEAVE THIS UP TO ANY ONE OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO BITE THE BULLET ON THIS.

SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

YOU CAN DO THE RIGHT THING.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MAY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT.

THE MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ONE WITH COMMISSIONER MOSS OPPOSING.

ALRIGHT, AGENDA ITEM,

[10. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case 22-Z-007 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural), Interim SFS-2-B (Single-Family Suburban), LO-1-A (Local Office), and LC-2-C (Local Commercial) to adopt the Enclave at Crystal Falls PUD (Planned Unit Development) with a base zoning district of TF-2-A (Two-Family) and GC-2-A (General Commercial) on four parcels of land approximately 19.534 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R559253, R031342, R031345, and R031341; and more commonly known as 10949, 10959, 10965, and 10981 E. Crystal Falls Pkwy, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 22-Z-007 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

NUMBER 10, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 22 DASH Z DASH 0 0 7 2 A MAN, THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR.

ONE, IF I'D ASK, IF YOU HOLD YOUR COMMENTS TO YOU, LEAVE THE, THE BUILDING SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE ON WITH OUR BUSINESS, PLEASE.

ANYWAY, AGENDA ITEM, NUMBER 10, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER EXTRA REGARDING ZONING CASE 22 DASH E DASH 0 0 7.

TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR, ONE B SINGLE FAMILY RULE AND SFS TO BE SINGLE FAMILY, SUBURBAN

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ELLA ONE, A LOCAL OFFICE AND LC TO SEE LOCAL COMMERCIAL TO ADOPT THE ENCLAVE AT CRYSTAL FALLS, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF TF, TWO, A TWO FAMILY AND GC TO A GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON FOUR PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 19.534 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCELS RFI 5 9 2 5 3 R 0 3 1 3 4 2 OR 0 3 1 3 4 5.

AND OUR 0 3 1 3 4 1 AND MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS TEN NINE FOUR NINE TEN NINE FIVE NINE TEN NINE SIX FIVE AND TEN NINE HUNDRED EIGHTY ONE EAST CRYSTAL FALLS, PARKWAY LEANDER, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS DISCUSSING CONSIDERATION ACTION REGARDING THIS AS DESCRIBED ABOVE STAFF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS MICHAEL PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

SO THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.

UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION ALONG WITH COMMERCIAL ALONG EAST CRYSTAL BALLS.

UH, CURRENTLY THERE ARE 9.9 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, ON THE SCREEN, UH, THAT ARE ZONED AS LOCAL COMMERCIAL AND LOCAL OFFICE.

UH, THIS CHANGE WOULD INCREASE THE AMOUNT, UH, FROM 9.9 ACRES TO 11.7 ACRES.

UH, THE PROPOSAL DOES MEET THE MAXIMUM LIMITATIONS FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR RESIDENTIAL USES ALONG THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR, UH, WHICH IS TO BE UNDER 40% OF THE PROJECT AREA.

SO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CRYSTAL BALLS, UH, JUST SOUTH OF, UH, RIDGE MORE LANDING SUBDIVISION, UM, AND JUST NORTH OF SOME COMMERCIAL PROJECTS AND THE, UH, FIRE STATION NUMBER FOUR.

UM, SO SOME PREVIOUS ZONING CASES FOR THIS PROPERTY, UH, ZONING REQUEST WAS, UH, ORIGINALLY REQUESTED TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM INTERIM, UH, SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL AND INTERIM, UH, SINGLE FAMILY, SUBURBAN TO THE LOCAL OFFICE AND LOCAL COMMERCIAL.

UH, SECOND REQUEST, UH, CAME IN, UH, LAST YEAR 2021.

UH, WHAT'S REQUESTED TO, UH, CHANGE THE INTERIM SINGLE FAMILY, SUBURBAN AND LOCAL COMMERCIAL, UH, TO A PUD TO FAMILY AND TO LOCAL COMMERCIAL, UH, WHICH WAS DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL, UH, IN NOVEMBER OF 2021.

UH, SO THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD WITH STAFF, UH, IN NOVEMBER OF 2020, WHICH INCLUDED A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT WITH NO COMMERCIAL.

UH, SINCE THEN THEY'VE ADDED THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT.

UM, SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE SINCE THEN IS THE ADOPTION OF THE 2020 LEANDER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE WAS AMENDED TO INCLUDE REQUIREMENTS FOR PUTIN DISTRICTS THAT INCLUDE, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF RESIDENTIAL CONDO REGIMES.

SO NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH WAS SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 16TH, 2022, UH, NO RESIDENTS OR PROPERTY OWNERS ATTENDED THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.

AND YOU CAN SEE MORE DETAIL IN ATTACHMENT NAME, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE MAP, DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS BOTH A, A MULTI-USE CORRIDOR AND A PRIORITY NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, UH, THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR, UH, IDENTIFY AS THE TWO FAMILIES ZONING AS A COMPATIBLE USE, UH, WHEN THE RESIDENTIAL USE DOES NOT EXCEED 40% OF THE PROJECT AREA, UH, THIS PUT ALSO INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING HIGHER STANDARDS AT PROHIBITED.

COMMERCIAL USES OTHERWISE PERMITTED UNDER GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING, UH, PHASE ONE OF THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE 2000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL, UH, ENHANCED LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL INCREASED REAR SETBACK BY FIVE FEET FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AND ADDITIONAL PARKING PROVIDED FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SOME OF THE WAIVERS THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING IS FOR THE PROPOSED GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO BE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL AND INCLUDE OFFICE WAREHOUSE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE, UH, CONCEPTUAL SITE AND LAND USE PLAN, AND THEN REDUCED FRONT SETBACK FOR THE RESIDENTIAL BY TWO FEET, AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? GOOD EVENING, MR. VICE-CHAIR I'M JIM BECHTLE AND THE COMMISSION, UH, JIM BECHTLE, SUNRAY DESIGN 400 BROADWAY HERE IN LAND.

UH, APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING HERE.

UM, UM, WE'VE PRETTY MUCH BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF ON THE LAST SIX MONTHS TO WORK THROUGH THE ZONING REQUEST.

UM, AND WE'RE IN TOTAL CONCERT WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

SO BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY IN AND WE MAY HAVE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SORRY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, MR. GRECO, AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I HAVE A ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, MS. KAREN BURNS.

AND IF YOU COME UP AND SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO

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THE RECORD, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

HI, MY NAME IS KAREN BURNS.

I LIVE AT 29 FAIR OAKS, UM, STREET, AND THIS WILL BE RIGHT BEHIND MY PROPERTY.

UH, AS I SUBMITTED ONLINE, UH, I WAS ASKING ABOUT, IS THERE GOING TO BE A CHRONIC CONCRETE WALL? AND IF THERE IS SEPARATING MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THE BACK OF MY PROPERTY FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT, HOW HIGH WOULD IT BE IF THERE'S NOT, THEN ARE THEY PROPOSING SOME KIND OF WALL OR SOMETHING? UM, AND IT'S GOING TO INCREASE TRAFFIC.

IT'S ALREADY HARD TO GET OUT OF, UH, RICH MY ROAD ONTO CRYSTAL FALLS.

SO ARE THEY GONNA PUT A LIGHT THERE BECAUSE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE WORSE AND THEN IS IT GOING TO CREATE MORE TRAFFIC THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD? WE ONLY HAVE ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.

SO, UM, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN SEE, WE CAN GET SPEED BUMPS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOMETHING BECAUSE PEOPLE ALREADY ARE SPEEDING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD, MOSTLY TWO AND A HALF TO FIVE ACRE HOMES.

UM, SO THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER.

UM, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM UH, I DO HAVE ONE, UH, COMMENT SUBMITTED THAT THEY WANTED THEIR COMMENTS READ INTO THE RECORD.

IT'S FOR MISSILE AND A ROLAND, UH, AT 33 FAIR STREET IN LEANDER.

UM, IT STATES HERE THAT THE POSITION THAT SHE HAS FOR THIS ITEM, ALTHOUGH WHEN I READ THE COMMENTS, YOU MIGHT THINK DIFFERENTLY.

NOW, THE COMMENTS, OH, IT'S INITIALLY FOR, I GOT IT.

CONDITIONALLY FOR YOU.

YES MA'AM YES.

MA'AM.

UM, OUR PROPERTY BACKS DIRECTLY UP INTO THE LOTS THAT ARE BEING REZONED.

WE ARE DISAPPOINTED THAT THE RED BARN NURSERY DID NOT END UP BEING THERE.

UM, OBVIOUSLY OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE, THERE WOULD BE TO HAVE NO DEVELOPMENT AT ALL, BUT THERE, BUT GIVEN THAT IT WILL MOST LIKELY HAPPEN DESPITE WHAT OUR WISHES ARE, WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS AND REQUESTS.

OUR FIRST AND FOREMOST CONCERN IS THE NEGATIVE IMPACT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON OUR PROPERTY VALUE.

WE'VE WE HAVE LIVED HERE SINCE 1999.

WE WOULD INSIST ON SOME SORT OF PRIVACY WALL OR FENCE BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS WOULD BE FOR THE VISUAL AESTHETIC AS WELL AS SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR US.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION RESPECTFULLY JOHN.

AND WHEN A ROLLING, UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, HEARING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER.

MAY I FOUND THE LAST HEARING FOR THIS ONE AS WELL? UM, THE, THE BIGGEST ISSUE ON THE PREVIOUS, UH, HEARING WAS THEY HAD A SMALL POSTAGE STAMP IN THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND CORNER WHERE THE COMMERCIAL WAS GOING TO GO AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOING TO BE TOWN HOMES, WHICH MEANT THE TOWNHOMES WERE GOING TO BE RIGHT ON CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY, WHICH IS A HUGE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.

UM, I THINK THIS GETS IT RIGHT.

UH, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD IS THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THE TOWN HOMES.

IS THAT STILL THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL? YES.

SO THERE, THERE'S NO CONNECTING AND WE'RE DOING A SIX FOOT COME TO THE MICROPHONE.

WE'RE PROPOSING A SIX FOOT MASONRY FENCE ALONG THE, THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY.

THERE'S NO ACCESS TO.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, IS THERE, WHAT WHAT'S TO THE EAST OF THAT, THAT THE STORAGE, THE STORAGE, WHAT DO THEY HAVE FOR SIZE OF OFFENSE? SO THEY EXISTED BEFORE THEY WERE IN THE CITY.

THEY WERE ANNEXED.

SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO WALL REQUIREMENT THERE.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAD.

SO IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE WALL SIX FEET.

SO THEY'RE PROPOSING A SIX FOOT MASONRY SCREENING WALL AT THAT LOCATION.

OKAY.

BUT IS THERE A REQUIREMENT FOR HOW HIGH OR ARE THEY GET TO DECIDE HOW HIGH TO WANT? SO TECHNICALLY BY OUR ORDINANCE, A WALL'S NOT REQUIRED AT ALL, BUT THEY'RE PROPOSING SIX FEET.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

I'M SURE.

HAMPTON, IS IT THE DOTTED LINE WHERE THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT WILL BE FOR HIM TO TELL HIM, TELL HIM DOTTED LINE, JUST REFERENCES THE LIMITS OF OFFICE WAREHOUSE USE FROM THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE EASTWARD.

DO YOU EVER PROPOSE ENTRANCE? UH, IT'LL COME.

YOU SEE THE TWO MEDIUM BREAKS AND CRYSTAL FALLS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ENTRIES THAT WILL COME IN THROUGH THOSE MEETINGS AND BREAKS, AND THEN MOST LIKELY TO JUST HAVE ONE ENTRANCE INTO THE, THE TWO FAMILY.

WELL, THE TOWNHOMES BE FENCED.

MIKE, WOULD THEY BE FENCED IN SEPARATELY FROM THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL OR WOULD ALL BE JUST LIKE FULL OF NO, WE'LL HAVE FENCING TO SEPARATE.

THE TWO USES MOST LIKELY DECORATIVE ROD IRON, NOT

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MAINSTREAM WALL EXCEPT ON THE BACK.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.

I LIKE IT THAT THE COMMERCIAL IS ALL ALONG THE FRONT.

AND THEN THE TWO FAMILY IS IN THE BACK TO ALLOW A TRANSITION BETWEEN THAT COMMERCIAL AND THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO I DO FEEL LIKE THAT'S A GOOD THING.

AND, AND I'M A, YES, I'M GONNA SHARE CORPORATE.

DID I HEAR YOU SAY HOW MUCH OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING TO GET BUILT ALONG WITH THIS? THE CITY REQUIRES THAT WE, IN A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE TO DEVELOP SOME PART OF THE COMMERCIAL PRIOR TO ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL.

SO HOW MUCH ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH AGREEING TO DO 2000 SQUARE FEET AT THIS TIME? 2000? YES, SIR.

THAT'S HARDLY BIGGER THAN A HOUSE.

WELL, HOPEFULLY IT'S A RESTAURANT BECAUSE WE HAVE A HOUSE ON THE SITE THAT WE'RE ENTERTAINING THE RESTAURANT, I GUESS TO SOME DEGREE, I HAVE SOME TROUBLE WITH THIS BECAUSE I SEE A WHOLE LOT OF COMMERCIAL, UM, OR GENERAL COMMERCIAL PLACE AVAILABLE, A VERY SMALL PORTION OF IT GETTING DEVELOPED AND THEN LETTING GO OF 78 UNITS IN THE BACK END.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING IN THE FRONT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER STREET AROUND THE CITY THAT HAS UP AND DOWN HERE, A LANE AND IN FRONT OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS SO, UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVEN'T UNDER CONTRACT WITH A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER, SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CIRCUMVENT THAT OPPORTUNITY.

OBVIOUSLY WE LIKE TO MARKET TO COMMERCIAL FIRST AS WELL.

THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS.

IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD SAY THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THIS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMERCIAL PRIOR TO GIVING A, A PERMIT FOR DEVELOPING THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION AND THAT COULD BE WRITTEN TO THE PUD NOTES? WELL, WHEN WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I'LL BE RIGHT THERE WITH THAT ONE.

I DO HAVE COMMENTS.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I GET MY WORDS OUT THE WAY I WANT IT.

SO MY, MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THE ENTIRE THING, IT'S NOT THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE DOING GENERAL COMMERCIAL IN A MULTI-USE CORRIDOR, WHICH IS NON-COMPATIBLE.

AND THIS IS A PRIORITY, UM, A PRIORITY CORRIDOR, WHICH THIS IS NOT.

AND, UM, THEREFORE I GO BACK TO WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ON SEVERAL CASES THAT WE'VE SEEN RECENTLY.

YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE WANT TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE A WAREHOUSE OR AN OFFICE SPACE, THAT'S NOT A LOCAL COMMERCIAL COMPATIBLE, UH, WITH OUR ORDINANCES, I WOULD RATHER SEE THE LOWER ZONING CLASSIFICATION, ESPECIALLY FOR THE PIECES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE ACTIVITY CENTER.

SO THESE TWO PARCELS RIGHT HERE HAVE THAT LOCAL COMMERCIAL.

UM, AND IF YOU WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE THAT, THAT WARRANTED A GENERAL COMMERCIAL, JUST HAVE THAT AS A ACCEPTABLE USE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE KEEPING THE ZONING, UH, ACCORDING TO OUR, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT WE'RE STILL MEETING THE INTENT OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WHEN YOU'RE A DEVELOPER, WHEN YOU'RE DEVELOPING IT OUT, INSTEAD OF JUST MAKING THE ENTIRE PIECE GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I HAVE A LITTLE HEARTBURN WITH, UM, WITH THIS.

YES, SIR.

UH, CAN I REBUT? I JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE CITY LIKES TO SEE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THIS, IN THIS PHASE OF GROWTH IN THIS CITY.

AND TO RESTRICT US EVEN MORE, I THINK GOES CONTRARY TO HIS WISH THAT WE DEVELOPED THE COMMERCIAL FIRST.

LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE COMMERCIAL AND TO RESTRICT IT EVEN TIGHTER, UM, I THINK IS, IS PROBABLY SHORTSIGHTED IN THE FACT THAT THIS COMPLIES WITH THE COMP PLAN.

AND THIS IS KIND OF WHAT, WHY WE CAME BACK BECAUSE THE COUNCIL KICKED US OUT BECAUSE THE LAST PLAN DIDN'T COMPLY WITH THE COMP PLAN.

SO WE'RE, WE'VE KIND OF BEEN IN THIS PING PONG GAME FOR AWHILE FOR, FOR TWO YEARS, TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

SO, UM, I THINK, AND WE'VE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH THE STAFF AND, AND, UH, CERTAINLY WE'VE GOT THEIR SUPPORT AND I THINK THEY'RE THE EXPERTS HERE IN, AND THAT'S DEFINITELY, I, I, I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE BACK AND FORTH EITHER MR. BECHTEL.

CAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S KIND OF COUNTER TO BEING ABLE TO INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT IN OUR CITY.

UM, HOWEVER, I GO BACK TO, YOU KNOW, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS THAT THOSE TWO PARCELS ON THE LEFT SHOULD BE AT MOST LOCAL COMMERCIALS.

IF YOU NOTICE THAT BIG BLUE BUILDING THERE AND IT'S ALL INDUSTRIAL, UM, W W YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING WE NEED TO TRANSITION AWAY FROM THE INDUSTRIAL IN THAT SITUATION.

SO, AND I, AND I GET THAT, BUT THERE'S A REASON WHY THAT WE DO, WE DO THE, UM, TYPES OF COMMERCIALS OWNING THE WAY WE DO, BECAUSE IN GENERAL COMMERCIAL, IF WE JUST LEAVE IT AT A GENERAL COMMERCIAL,

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YOU KNOW, UM, ON A BAR, A NIGHTCLUB, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS CAN COME IN THERE.

SO I WOULD BE EVEN OKAY WITH LIMITING SOME OF THE USES THAT IF YOU LOOKED AT THE, WHAT WE'VE RESTRICTED, THE SITE, WE'VE, WE'VE RESTRICTED QUITE A FEW USES TO, SO YEP.

YOU ARE CORRECT.

AND I MISS THAT.

SO, AND I'VE GOT A COMMENT TO JUST, I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I ALSO ENLISTED TO THE APPLICANT BECAUSE OF THAT.

UH, SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS THAT WERE GRANDFATHERED IN, IT'S KINDA HARD TO, UH, RESTRICT THE AREA RIGHT AROUND THOSE GRANDFATHERED IN BUILDINGS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT THE SAME KIND OF LOCAL COMMERCIAL NEXT TO, UH, WHAT'S WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.

SO I'M, I'M HAPPY WITH JUST, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THEY'VE GOT THE PAD WRITTEN WITH ALL THE RESTRICTIONS LISTED.

I HAVE SOME, OKAY.

SO FOR THE APPLICANT, I'M GOING BACK TO THIS ENTRANCE, INTO THE TOWNHOMES.

UH, SO ALONG THE DRIVEWAY IS, WILL THERE BE LIKE SIDEWALKS PROPOSED? YEAH.

WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO SIDEWALKS FOR, FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

OKAY.

AND HOW FAR IS THIS AT? BACK FROM THE BACKSIDE OF THE TOWNHOME FROM THE, I GUESS THE HOUSE ABOVE 40 NORTH DAKOTA.

DID HE EVER FIBA 20 FEET, 20 FEET? UM, ALONG WITH THE SIX FOOT NICE WALL, RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND, UH, ONE FROM MICHAEL, THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE GOING IN THAT ACRE, IS IT EIGHT PER ACRE OR FOUR TOWNHOMES? IS IT, OR IS 10 PER, UM, WITH NO, UH, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I ANSWERED THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THIS, BUT SOMEHOW INTO THE PUB NOTES, WE NEED TO WRITE THAT THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED BEFORE WE WOULD GIVE THEM PERMITS TO DEVELOP THE 78 UNITS IN THE BACK END, SO THAT WE'RE GETTING THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE SPARING THAT INSTEAD OF LETTING SOMEBODY COME IN AND BUILD THE UNITS IN THE BACKEND AND THEN NOTHING HAPPENING IN THE FRONT IS, IS THERE, UH, AN AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCLUDED? UH, I WOULD SAY THE 50%, LEAST 50% OF THE COMMERCIAL OF THE COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT THAT'S, UM, ARE YOU SAYING LIKE 50% OF THE LAND AREA? 50% OF THE LAND AREAS? I THINK THE WAY TO DO IT, BECAUSE I CAN'T SAY WITHOUT KNOWING HOW MUCH A 2000 SQUARE FEET IS A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THAT.

THERE'S A HOUSE OVER ON THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND SIDE.

THAT'S PROBABLY CLOSE TO 1500 TO 2000 SQUARE FEET.

THAT'S ALL THE MORE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ON BUILDING BEFORE OF THIS.

AND I WOULD WANT TO SEE MUCH MORE THAN THAT.

AND ARE YOU ASKING, UM, FOR US TO MAKE THAT CHANGE AND BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING, OR ARE YOU TAKING ACTION FOR IT TO GO TO COUNCIL? I WOULDN'T MIND TAKING ACTION HAVING GONE TO COUNCIL, BUT I, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO GET NOTED.

I AM A BIG PROPONENT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE TOWN OF THAT SOMETHING WE DESPERATELY NEED.

UH, I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT LEE LAYING IT ON IT 50% WOULD BE, UM, FEASIBLE TO GET IN ANY OF THE DEVELOPED, I, I, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON REAL ESTATE, BUT, UH, I THINK 50% IS A LITTLE, UH, QUITE A BIT HIGH ON THAT.

UM, I MEAN, IT WOULD THRILL ME TO SEE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF IT DONE BEFORE THE FIRST TOWN ON SPELT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT REQUIRING IT WOULD BE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPER.

THAT THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN THERE.

I GUESS I COULD LOWER THE 50 DOWN TO 30, BUT I'M, I'M JUST, DON'T WANT TO SEE PERSONALLY, DON'T WANT TO SEE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, HE'S GOING TO DEVELOP THOSE 78 UNITS IN THE BACKHAND RIGHT AWAY.

THERE'LL BE DONE BEFORE THE 2000 SQUARE FOOT

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IS OPEN.

MR. BECHTEL, ARE YOU, UH, AMENABLE TO INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL THAT YOUR NO, SIR, BUT I DO WANT TO, UH, OFFER THIS, UM, UM, WE CAN ONLY DO, IF WE DO THE RESIDENTIAL, WE CAN ONLY DO 30 UNITS AT A TIME.

SO WE CAN'T DEVELOP THE ENTIRE 78 CITY HAS A RESTRICTION DUE TO THE WATER THAT YOU CAN ONLY DEVELOP 30, 30 UNITS AT A TIME BEFORE YOU START YOUR NEXT PHASE.

SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT RESTRICTIONS COMING AT US FROM EVERY WHICH WAY WE'RE RESTRICTING LAND USES IN THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL USE.

WE'RE RESTRICTING THE RESIDENTIAL TO ONE USE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUMPING THROUGH HOOPS HERE TO GET YOU GUYS HAPPY.

AND THIS IS JUST ONE MORE REASON THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP AN RHIANA WHEN YOU JUST PULL SOME NUMBER OUT OF YOUR HEAD.

THAT'S THAT'S HAS NO BEARING ON, ON GROWTH WHERE WE'RE HERE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.

WE WANT TO MAKE MONEY.

WE WANT TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, BUT WE CAN'T DICTATE THE MARKET.

WE'VE GOT IT UNDER CONTRACT WITH A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER.

WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT IT'LL GO THROUGH, BUT TO THROW ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS ON US WHEN WE'D BEEN SIX MONTHS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS IS, IS JUST A LITTLE HEAVY HANDED.

I'M SORRY, SIR, BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW I FEEL.

SORRY.

YOU FEEL THAT WAY.

I'M SORRY.

YOU FEEL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP AND HELP DEVELOP COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HERE IN THE CITY, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY CAN DO WHAT THE MARKET SAYS.

AND AS YOU KNOW, INTEREST RATES HAVE JUMPED, THERE WAS A LOT OF ISSUES THAT ARE WORKING AGAINST THE DEVELOPERS RIGHT NOW.

SO, YOU KNOW, LET US GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND, AND IT LIKES TO SAY WE'VE GOT STAFF SUPPORT WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE FULLY ENGAGED IN THIS PROJECT AND WANT TO BUILD IT, BUT TO ADD ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK HEAVY HANDED AT THIS POINT AND REAL QUICK ON THE, UM, THE PHASING FOR THE RESIDENTIAL, YOU'RE NOT LIMITED TO 30 UNITS PHASES.

THE WAY THE ORDINANCE WORKS IS IT SAYS IF YOU'RE OVER 30 UNITS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PHASING PLAN.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT YOUR PROJECT.

AND IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE 70, WE'D PROBABLY LOOK AT TWO PHASES, SO IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BREAK IT UP.

THAT'S CORRECT.

I THINK MAYBE WHAT WE W WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS LOOK AT, UH, UH, A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL TO TIE SOME, SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL AS TO THE PHASES.

UM, IT'S KIND OF DISAPPOINTING TO YOUR POINT THAT ONLY 2000 SQUARE FEET WOULD BE USED, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I, I BELIEVE IN THE RIGHTS OF THE PROPERTY OWNER TO DEVELOP THEIR LAND.

AND HE'S BEEN IN THIS PROCESS, UH, OVER A YEAR AND A HALF NOW.

AND, UM, HE HAD HER FIRST DUG THE FIRST HOLE THERE.

UM, I, LIKE I SAID, I I'M DISAPPOINTED WITH A 2000 SQUARE FOOT, BUT I, I'M NOT SURE THAT POSSIBLY TYING IT INTO PHASES.

AND MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL COULD WORK OUT BETTER THAN WHAT WE CAN.

WE'LL DOUBLE IT 4,000.

I MEAN, HE IS WILLING TO WORK WITH US ON THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY, MAY MAYBE, UM, LIKE I SAID, COUNCIL CAN COME UP WITH A, THAT THE PHASING WHERE ALL 78 TOWNHOMES ARE BELT UNTIL I DUNNO IF YOU'VE DRIVEN AROUND TOWN, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PLACES WHERE WE DO 75% RESIDENTIAL OR MULTIFAMILY, AND THEY DO THE TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT, THAT'S COMMERCIAL, AND YOU SEE EVERYTHING'S BUILT AND THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, AND WE HAVE AN EMPTY LAW.

WELL, YOU BETTER HAVE THAN AN EMPTY BUILDING.

YOU KNOW, THE MARKETING PROBLEMS. I'M JUST AFRAID OF PUTTING TWO, AND WE'RE COMPLYING WITH A COMP PLAN.

I MEAN, WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE COMPOSITE, SOMEBODY NORRIS WHERE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IS COMPLIANT WITH CITY REQUIREMENTS AND TO RANDOMLY PULL OUT A NUMBER IT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I DID WITH A 2000 SQUARE FEET, BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW, BUT I'LL, I'LL DOUBLE THIS TO 4,000.

IF THAT'S GOING TO SHOW THAT WE'RE WILLING TO WORK, WORK WITH YOU GUYS.

BUT SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, OVER THE PAST ALMOST THREE YEARS NOW THAT IT'S KIND OF FRESH FRUSTRATES ME.

UM, AND I CAN HEAR IT IN MR. BECHTEL'S VOICE RIGHT NOW BEING FRUSTRATED IS WHEN WE KEEP MOVING THE GOALPOST.

EXACTLY.

RIGHT.

AND, AND SO, WHILE I, PERSONALLY, AS I TALKED BEFORE, DON'T LIKE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, YOU KNOW, GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

UM, WE DID THAT AS A CITY.

WE WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER AND WE DID THAT, UH, ME PERSONALLY, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO

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PERSONALLY, I'D RATHER SEE LOCAL COMMERCIAL WITH SOME ACCEPTABLE USES THAT ARE THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL STATURE VERSUS GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND RESTRICT USES.

I'D RATHER ADD IN AND KEEP IT AT THE LOWER, UM, CLASSIFICATION THAN OPT OUT.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD UP YOUR DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT DOING THINGS.

AND CAUSE THAT WOULD BE JUST DOING THE SAME THING TO YOU, SIR.

AND I'M, AND I'M UNWILLING TO DO THAT.

UM, I WILL SAY THOUGH, WE DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

SO LIKE, LET ME AMEND MY MOTION.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS, BUT NO, THE, IN THE, UM, IN THE, IN THE DEVELOPMENT THING, HE'S THERE BASICALLY COMMITTING TO 2000 SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THAT CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE RESIDENTS USES MAY NOT BE ISSUED UNTIL THE, UH, UNTIL THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF COMMERCIAL IS ISSUED.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY TRYING TO DO WHAT I WAS SAYING ANYWAY, ISN'T IT? IS IT NOT? AND IF HE'S WILLING TO MAKE THAT TO 4,000, I'LL, I'LL GO WITH THAT AS A MOTION AND MR. BECHTEL WILL GIVE US A THUMBS UP.

SO YOU CAN'T SEE THAT AS A RECORD.

SO I JUST WANT, WANT TO BE THAT HEAVY HANDED AGAIN.

YES, EXACTLY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ELANTRA FOR, UM, AMENDING IT TO THE, FROM 2000 TO 4,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL BEING IN PLACE.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

YES, SIR.

UH, AGENDA ITEM, NUMBER

[11. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case 22-Z-016 to amend the current zoning of LC-2-B (Local Commercial) to adopt the Sauterne Center PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning of LC-2-A (Local Commercial) and TF-2-A (Two-Family) on three parcels of land approximately 5.954 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Travis Central Appraisal District Parcel 353977 and Williamson County Central Appraisal District Parcel R514310 and R514309; and generally located to the southwest of the intersection of Sauterne Drive and N Lakeline Blvd on the west side of N Lakeline Blvd, Leander, Williamson and Travis Counties, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 22-Z-016 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

11, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ZONING CASE 22 DASH E DASH 0 1 6, TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF LC TO BE LOCAL COMMERCIAL, TO ADOPT THE SUB.

AND I'M GOING TO MISPRONOUNCE THIS SATURN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, SENATOR PUD WITH THE BASE ZONING OF ELSIE TO A LOCAL COMMERCIAL NTF TWO, A TWO FAMILY ON THREE PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 5.954 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY TRAVIS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCEL 3 5 3 9 7 7, AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCEL 4 3 0 9, AND GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF CERTAIN DRIVE AND NORTH LAKELAND BOULEVARD ON THE WEST SIDE OF NORTH LAKELINE BOULEVARD, LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND TRAVIS COUNTIES, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION, MICHAEL JANESKY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

SO THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.

UH, THIS REQUEST INCLUDES A PORTION OF A PROPERTY THAT'S CHANGING FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL AT THE BOTTOM CORNER.

SO THAT ENTIRE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS LOCAL COMMERCIAL.

UH, THE COMMERCIAL, UH, PROPOSED IS APPROXIMATELY 4.079 ACRES, AND THE RESIDENTIAL APPROXIMATELY 1.875.

THIS PROPERTY IS TO BE DEVELOPED IN TWO PHASES.

THE PHASE ONE WILL BE THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND PHASE TWO WILL BE THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UH, SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF LAKELINE BOULEVARD AND SAW TURN DRIVE.

UH, THERE WAS A PREVIOUS ZONING CASE FOR THIS ONE, UH, WHICH REQUESTED A ZONING CHANGE FROM, UH, SINGLE FAMILY URBAN TO THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, UH, WHICH WAS PASSED IN 2012.

UH, A DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD WITH STAFF IN APRIL OF 2020.

UH, THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL INCLUDED A 60 UNIT CONDO PROJECT WITH NO COMMERCIAL.

UH, AND THE DEVELOPER IS NOW PROPOSING A COMMERCIAL WITH THIS PROJECT.

A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS ARRANGED BY GOODWIN MANAGEMENT.

UH, THERE WERE NO MAJOR CONCERNS FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT YOU CAN SEE ATTACHMENT NINE IN YOUR PACKET FOR MORE DETAIL.

UH, THE COMPOSITE, UH, THE ZONING REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND THE PUD INCLUDES, UH, THE FOLLOWING HIGHER STANDARDS, UH, PHASE ONE TO INCLUDE 2000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL INCREASED RESIDENTIAL REAR SETBACK BY FIVE FEET, ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AND GUEST PARKING, UH, AND ARCHITECTURAL COLORS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL.

AND THEN, UH, THE WAIVERS REQUESTED ARE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY TRACK CONDOMINIUM REGIME, UH, FOR THE TWO FAMILY, UH, REDUCED RESIDENTIAL, UH, FRONT SETBACK BY TWO FEET AND AN INCREASED TO 12 UNITS PER ACRE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU, MR. CHELSEA, IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? WELCOME BACK MR. BECK, WE'RE COMPLETELY IN CONCERT WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER REQUESTS AND WE DO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE MACERATING APPOINTMENTS.

THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL THAT WE'RE GOING TO COUNSELING.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, NOW I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE SILENT, SEEING NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER MAY.

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WELL, I'D LIKE TO SEE REMAIN ALL LOCAL COMMERCIAL.

I, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS.

I THINK IT'S A SOMEWHAT ACCEPTABLE MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL IN THERE.

UM, NO OBJECTIONS.

OKAY.

UM, CAN YOU COME BACK TO ME AFTER EVERYBODY ELSE SPEAK PLEASE? YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, MR. HAMPTON.

OKAY.

ACCESS TO THE, UM, TO FAMILY AREAS.

WHERE DO YOU PLAN ON PUTTING THOSE ACCESSES? THOSE WILL COME FROM WITHIN THE PROPERTY.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACCESS COMING OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY.

WE'VE GOT ALL THAT FRONT AND JOHN LAKE LINE.

SO WE'LL HAVE TWO OR THREE DRIVEWAYS ON THE LIFELINE, DEPENDING ON THE ENGINEERING.

AND THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE A, UM, TURNING LANE OR APPROVE ROAD OR IMPROVE ROAD TO MAKE THAT ENTRANCE.

UM, IT DEPENDS ON THE TRAFFIC, BUT THEY'LL, THEY'LL LOOK AT IT.

IT'S A, IT'S AN PROPOSED TO BE A BOULEVARD RIGHT NOW.

THEY ONLY BUILT THE FIRST TWO LANES.

SO, UM, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS, DETERMINE ROADWAY, IMPACT FEES, AND HOPEFULLY ONE DAY THAT DAY TWO.

OKAY.

UM, FROM MICHAEL, THE NUMBER OF, OR FOR BOTH OF YOU REALLY, UM, THE NUMBER OF TWO FAMILY HOMES IS 24 IS LISTED ON THE FORM ON THE ATTACHMENT.

AND FOR THIS ONE, IF WE'RE DOING 10 PER ACRE, THAT KIND OF PUTS IT OVER.

I MEAN, AT LEAST YOU WOULD DO 20 INSTEAD OF 24.

SO I'M NOT TOO EXCITED THAT THERE'S 24.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A LOT FOR THE LITTLE AMOUNT OF AREA, PRETTY MUCH I'M GETTING AT.

UM, IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S 10 PER ONE ACRE, RIGHT? I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I THINK IT WAS AT 12 UNITS PER ACRE.

NOW THAT'S ONE OF THE WAIVERS THEY'RE REQUESTING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MICHELLE ELECTRODE.

UH, MR. BECHTOLD, HOW IS THIS FOR MY UNDERSTANDING? I W I, I LIKED THE LAST PROJECT, WHICH HAD THE, YOU KNOW, UH, TWO FAMILY UNITS WITH THE DRIVEWAYS AND SUPPORT.

THIS APPEARS TO LOOK IS GOING TO BE MORE LIKE A CONDO.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE MORE CLUSTERED TOGETHER IS THAT THAT'S THE SAME PROBABLY PRETTY MUCH THE SAME PRODUCT.

IT'S A DUPLEX PRODUCT.

IT IS, IT'S A DUPLEX PRODUCT, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK MORE LIKE, IS IT GOING TO BE ONE STORY? THEY'LL PROBABLY BE TWO-STORY CAUSE YOU'VE GOT GARAGES.

AND THE MORE YOU HAVE TO STICK WITHIN THAT FOOTPRINT.

SO THERE'LL BE TWO STORY, BUT WE'LL HAVE THE MAINSTREAM REQUIREMENT AS, AS PART OF THE CODE, 85% MAINSTREAM, BUT YOU CAN GET THAT MANY ON, LESS THAN TWO ACRES.

UM, WELL, ACCORDING TO MY SITE PLAN, YES.

BUT WE WERE ASKED TO NOT SHOW THE SITE PLAN AT THIS STAGE.

SO WE TOOK THAT OFF, OFF PROPOSAL.

OKAY.

BUT YEAH, IT WORKS AND WE'VE GOT SOME TYPE OF GRAPH TOPOGRAPHICAL CONSTRAINTS ON THE BACK AND, AND THAT'S WHY WE FELT LIKE A RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT.

THERE CAN WORK A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH A CONTOURS.

IT'S GOT SOME REALLY NICE VIEWS OUT TOWARDS, UH, APPLE SPRINGS, IF YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS.

SO THE TRACK KIND OF FALLS OFF ON THE BACK AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING A MIXED PRODUCT TYPE, THERE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AND IT'S GOING TO BE GARDEN OFFICE.

SO IT'S GONNA KIND OF BE LIKE A VERY COMPATIBLE KIND OF DUAL USE.

WELL, THEY HAVE DROPPED WAYS LIKE, WELL, THEY HAVE DRIVEWAYS HAD EACH OF THESE DUPLEXES.

YES.

MA'AM AND GARAGES AND OFF STREET PARKING, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS.

I JUST GOT THE IMPRESSION IT WAS GOING TO BE MORE CLUSTERED THAN, UH, UM, THERE'LL BE A DETACHED DUPLEXES.

SO IT WON'T BE LIKE A CONDO OR A JEAN WHERE YOU HAVE SIX UNITS ATTACHED OR SOMETHING TOWN.

SO B TWO FAMILY THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

CAN I SHARE A CARPENTER? SO I HEARD YOU SAY PHASE ONE IS COMMERCIAL 2000 FEET.

AGAIN, WILLIAM.

WELL, I'D BE UP FOR THAT.

THIS ONE ISN'T QUITE AS BIG.

I MEAN, THERE'S NOT THE, BUT I DO REALLY LIKE TO, AND I SEE THAT YOU'VE, YOU'VE SAID YOU'RE GOING TO DO PHASE ONE AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO PHASE TWO.

UM, I'M I'M I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I'VE GOT WITH THE INFORMATION I NEED.

SO MY COMMENTS ARE KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE LAST ONE, EXCEPT IT'S REALLY THE OPPOSITE.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OBVIOUSLY OUR CIRCLES DON'T ALWAYS MEET UP WITH PROPERTY LINES NICE AND NEATLY.

UH, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THIS IS WITHIN

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THE ACTIVITY CENTER.

UM OH, YES.

UM, BUT, BUT, BUT WHAT I WAS GONNA TO, WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY THERE, MR. BECHTLE, IS THAT WHAT, WHAT MR. BECHTLE IS PROPOSING IS A LESS DENSE PRODUCT THEN IS ALLOWED IN THE ACTIVITY CENTER.

SO THAT'S A POSITIVE THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THIS, AS I SAID, IT'S SIMILAR, BUT A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE WORKING WITH STAFF AND, UH, TO GET TOGETHER A PROJECT THAT'S GONNA, UM, THE PHASE ONE IS GOING TO BE THE COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS ALWAYS AWESOME.

YOU KNOW, AS, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT UP HERE, UM, BUT I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THIS LEVEL.

WELL, IT W IT WAS FUNNY BECAUSE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, I THINK THE COUNCIL AMENDED THE COMP PLAN IN THAT DOC GOT BIGGER AND IT ENDED UP ENCROACHING ON THAT PROPERTY.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.

SO WE KINDA GOT CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE, BUT WE DIDN'T CHANGE WHAT WE WERE DOING.

WE JUST KIND OF, AND, BUT, BUT THE REASON I MENTIONED THAT THOUGH, IS BECAUSE IN AN ACTIVITY CENTER, THE IT'S SINGLE FAMILY, TOWNHOMES AND MULTIFAMILY, UM, ARE THE, THE, THE RESIDENTIAL PIECES OF IT.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A LESS DENSE PRODUCT, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER FROM THE, FROM THE TWO FAMILY PRODUCT TO MAKE IT MORE OF A CONDO REGIME.

YES, SIR.

SO I GET THAT.

SO AGAIN, I HAVE, NO, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THIS, UM, COMMISSIONER MOSS.

DID YOU? OKAY, SO THIS IS GOOD.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM BEFORE WE APPROVE.

I DON'T KNOW, FINE.

IF WE WANT TO MAKE RECOMMEND, IF I CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION.

IS THAT OKAY? ALL RIGHT.

ARE YOU WANTING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE CASE? YES.

THAT COULD BE YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE IT WITH WHATEVER YOU'RE RECOMMENDING.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? MY RECOMMENDATION IS THE NUMBER OF TWO FAMILY HOMES TO 24.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A REDUCED JUST BECAUSE I THINK IN THE AREA, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT, SO I COULD BE PART OF AN EMOTION THAT THE ZONING IS FOR WHATEVER NUMBER YOU'RE THINKING, LIKE THE 10 UNITS PER ACRE.

YEAH.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO TAKE BACK THE WAIVER AND JUST GO 10 PER ACRE.

UM, YOU GUYS MIGHT NOT LIKE IT THAT, SO I WASN'T GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY WILL SHOOT IT DOWN, BUT I WILL GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT A TRY.

YOU COULD DO THAT.

OR YOU COULD DO A COMMISSIONER COMMENTARY AT THE END.

WE COULD ADD TO THE NOTES.

OKAY.

SO DID YOU HAVE A MOTION OR YES.

YOU KNOW, I WILL TAKE THAT MOTION.

YES.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE REDUCTION, UH, TO 20, UH, TWO FAMILY THAT WILL MAKE IT KIND OF CLOSER TO THAT 10 PER ACRE.

OKAY.

SO YOU WANT TO MAKE IT 10 PER ACRE.

OKAY.

DID YOU SAY KIND OF CLOSER? THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE VAGUE, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO AN EXACT MUCH, SO, SO COMMISSIONER HAMPTON HAS A MOTION TO REDUCE THE DENSITY.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT, AND THERE'S A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

THE MOTION PASSES, UH, FOUR TO TWO WITH COMMISSIONERS MAY AND MEHAN VOTING AGAINST, I VOTED AGAINST, BECAUSE AGAIN, I WAS OKAY AS IT STOOD.

SO WITH THE REDUCTION IN DENSITY, THAT'S WHY I WAS AGAINST IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY SAME THING HERE.

I, I'M NOT SURE THAT REDUCING IT.

THE ADDITIONAL UNITS WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, BUT I DO I NOT A BIG FAN OF, UH, DENSITY IN THERE.

OKAY.

AGENDA,

[12. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case 22-Z-020 to amend the Tylerville Tract PUD (Planned Unit Development) by adopting the Sodalis Minor PUD with the base zoning district of LC-2-A (Local Commercial) on one parcel of land approximately 4.995 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R539851; and generally located to the northwest of the intersection of W Broade St and W San Gabriel Pkwy, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Discussion Consider Action]

ITEM NUMBER 12, DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE 22 DASH Z THAT'S 0 2 0 TO AMEND THE TYLER VOTE TRACK PUD PLANNED UNIT BY ADOPTING THIS.

SO DALLAS MINOR PUD WITH THE BASIS ONLY DISTRICT FOR THE LLC TO A LOCAL COMMERCIAL ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 4.995 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON COUNTY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCEL ARE 5 3 9, 8 5 1.

AND GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF WEST BROAD STREET AND WEST SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY.

WE END OUR WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HELD THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS CASE ON JULY 28TH.

AND, UM, DURING THE MEETING, UH, DR.

STYLES PRESENTED CONCERNS ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH.

UM, WE CONTACTED THE OAK CREEK COLORS ASSOCIATION AND THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF THE ZONING CASE.

UM, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO CONNECT WITH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM MY VISTA AND SEND UPDATED NOTICES.

WE ALSO CONFIRMED THAT, UM, DR.

STYLES WAS NOT, UM, SOMEONE THAT RECEIVED A NOTICE CAUSE HIS PROPERTY WAS NOT WITHIN 500 FEET.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE HE HAD MAPS FROM SOMEONE ELSE.

AND THAT'S WHY HE DIDN'T HAVE A COMPLETE PACKAGE.

UM, BUT I DID CONFIRM WITH THE OAK CREEK HOA, THEIR PACKAGE INCLUDED THE LETTER AND THE PLAN.

UM, SO I FELT BETTER ABOUT THE PUBLIC NOTICE.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS

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AND I'M ALSO AVAILABLE, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

UM, SO I ASSUME THERE'S NO APPLICANT PRESENTATION JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS, SIR.

THAT'S GREAT.

SO I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP AND NO ONE LEFT IN THE ROOM, SO I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS.

I'M OKAY WITH IT AS PRESENTED.

NO QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

YOU DID SAY THAT THAT APPLICANT SENT OUT NOTICES OR DID THEY SEND OUT NOTICES AGAIN OR DID THEY SEND OUT MORE NOTICES AS WELL? SO THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION WAS THEY CONTACTED THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO MAKE SURE THE NOTICE WAS CORRECT.

AND I DID MAKE CONTACT WITH THE PRESIDENT OF OAK CREEK AND THEY DID GET THE NOTICE AND THEY WERE IN SUPPORT AND THEY GOT UP THE FIRST TIME AND THEY CONFIRMED, IT WAS A COMPLETE PACKAGE.

AND THEN THE APPLICANT CONTACTED ENCLAVE AT MY VISTA.

THEY SPOKE WITH SOMEONE AND THEY WERE ABLE TO MAIL NEW NOTICES TO THEM.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, NO COMMENT.

I'M GOOD.

SURE, MAN.

UM, IF I'M NOT OUT OF ORDER, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MAY 2ND AND BY COMMISSIONER LANTRIP I WILL JUST ADD IN ONE THING REAL QUICK SINCE I DIDN'T GET TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU.

UH, AARON, UM, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERNS LAST TIME WAS THE, WAS THE PERMITTED USE, BUT IT GOES BACK TO WHAT I WAS JUST SAYING FROM THE TIME BEFORE OF I'D RATHER SEE AN ALLOWED USE WITH THE ASSISTED LIVING VERSUS, UM, ZONING IT FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND THEN RESTRICTING THE USES TO ONLY THAT.

SO I THINK THAT THIS IS EXACTLY KIND OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, THAT WE'VE DONE HERE AND THAT THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN AMENABLE TO.

SO WE HAVE, UH, A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

AND WITH THAT, THE TIME IS 8 47 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.