Jan 12, 2023 P&amp;Z Commission

NUMBER 10, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AGENDA ITEM

[10. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Comprehensive Plan Case CPA-22-0005 to amend the Transportation Master Plan to remove the proposed collector roadway located to the south of the terminus of Republic Trails and to the west of Ronald W Reagan Blvd, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Comprehensive Plan Case CPA-22-0005 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

CASE CPA DASH 22 DASH 0 0 0 5 TO AMEND THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN TO REMOVE THE PROPOSED COLLECTIVE ROADWAY LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF THE TERMINUS OF REPUBLIC TRAILS AND TO THE WEST OF RONALD W. REAGAN BOULEVARD, LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

SO THE AGENT HERE TONIGHT TO REPRESENT THE PROJECT IS KIMLEY HORN.

UH, MR. ETHAN HARWELL IS, UH, IN THE HOUSE.

UM, THE CURRENT COLLECTOR ROADWAY IS, UH, IT IS CLASSIF.

UH, THE CURRENT ROADWAY CLASSIFICATION IS A RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR, WHICH IS A TWO-LANE, AND WE'LL DISCUSS IT IN MORE DETAIL.

UM, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS.

THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO REMOVE THE EXTENSION OF REPUBLIC TRAILS BOULEVARD THAT EXTENDS TO THE SOUTH FROM THE HAZELWOOD SUBDIVISION TO RONALD WIGGAN BOULEVARD, IN ORDER TO, UH, BE COMPATIBLE, UH, WITH ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS, BE RESPECTFUL OF EXISTING NATURAL FEATURES AND FLOODPLAIN, UH, AND ALIGN WITH THE GOALS OF THE MASTER PLAN.

UH, IN YOUR PACKET, THERE WAS, UH, AN ATTACHMENT NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH WAS THE LETTER OF INTENT, WHICH, UH, OUTLINED IT OUTLINED THEIR, UH, REQUEST IN MORE DETAIL.

UM, SOME SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS, UH, FOR YOU GUYS.

UH, THIS PROJECT CURRENTLY HAS A FINAL PLA, A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT CONSTRUCTION PLAN, AS WELL AS A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, THAT ARE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH REVIEW.

UH, ON MAY 6TH, 2021, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A VARIANCE, UH, VARIANCE, PROJECT NUMBER 21 VA 0 0 1, TO NOT EXTEND

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REPUBLIC TRAILS THROUGH THE BLOCKHOUSE CREEK, UH, APARTMENT TRACK, WHICH IS THIS GUY RIGHT HERE.

UM, BLOCKHOUSE CREEK APARTMENTS ARE DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE HAZELWOOD PHASE FOUR B SUBDIVISION.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, THE SUBJECT TRACK HAS AN EXISTING FLOOD PLAIN AND FLOODWAY RUNNING PARALLEL.

AND WITHIN THE PROPOSED ALIGNMENT OF REPUBLIC TRAILS, A ROADWAY ENCUMBERED BY A FLOOD PLANE MAY CREATE SUBSTANTIAL SAFETY AND ENGINEERING CONCERNS, UH, FOR THEIR CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE'LL COVER SOME EXISTING ZONING.

SO TO THE NORTH, UH, IS A PU IT IS UNDEVELOPED, UH, CREEK'S EDGE PU AND THAT'S THIS GUY, RIGHT? THIS LITTLE PORTION RIGHT HERE.

IT ALSO HAS A PORTION OF LOCAL OFFICE ON IT.

UM, TO THE EAST IS S FFR TWO B, UH, AND IT IS UNDEVELOPED TO THE SOUTH IS IN THE, THE CITY OF CEDAR PARK.

UH, THE BACK PORTION IS A PU WITH A SINGLE FAMILY, AND THE FRONT PORTION IS A GENERAL BUSINESS, UH, GB DISTRICT.

IT'S ALSO UNDEVELOPED, UH, TO THE WEST IS E T J.

IT'S ALSO IN THE CITY OF CEDAR PARK, AND IT IS THE LAKEWOOD COUNTRY ESTATES.

SO IT'S AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL, UH, SUBDIVISION.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UM, SOUTH OF THE LEANDER PARKS APARTMENTS, WHICH IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE BLOCKHOUSE CROSSING APARTMENTS, AND DIRECTLY EAST OF THE LAKEWOOD COUNTRY ESTATES, WHICH WE TOUCHED ON EARLIER.

UM, THIS PROPERTY CONTAINS BOTH FLOODPLAIN AND FLOODWAY, IS UNDEVELOPED AND CONTAINS SIGNIFICANT TREE COVER, WHICH WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE LAND OR TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS AND MITIGATION AT TIME OF SITE DEVELOPMENT SUBMITTAL, WHICH THEY HAVE DONE.

UM, SOME PROPERTY HISTORY.

UH, IN 2006, THE FRONT PORTION OF THE TRACT, UM, WAS ANNEXED.

AND THEN THE, UH, 2013, THE REAR PORTION WAS ANNEXED.

UM, AND I LIST THE ORDINANCE NUMBERS IN CASE YOU WERE INTERESTED.

UM, PREVIOUS ZONING CASES, UM, 18 Z 36 REQUESTED A ZONING CHANGE TO PUD UH, S F T TWO A AND WAS APPROVED ON, UH, APRIL OF 2019.

UH, ZONING CASE 21 Z 31 REQUESTED AN AMENDMENT TO THE PUD TO ALLOW FOR MULTIPLE UNITS ON ONE LOT, WHICH THEY'RE DOING.

UM, AND WHEN WAS APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY, UH, IN, UH, OCTOBER OF 21, THE PROPERTY HAS ACCESS ONTO RONALD REAGAN BOULEVARD, UH, TRANSPORTATION REQUIREMENTS.

THIS PROPERTY INCLUDES THE FUTURE AND POTENTIAL EXPANSION OF THE REPUBLIC TRAILS, UH, COLLECTOR.

THERE WAS A TABLE IN YOUR PACKET THAT OUTLINES, UM, THE CLASSIFICATION TYPE, WHICH IS A COLLECTOR, UH, THE LAND USE CONTEXT, WHICH IS AN URBAN COLLECTOR, WHICH, UH, SHUTTLES LOW TRAFFIC.

UM, AND THE DESIGN ELEMENT, UM, IT'S A 74 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

IT HAS TWO TRAVEL LANES, ONE NORTH, ONE SOUTH THERE, UH, 12 FEET IN, IN WIDTH, UH, AND THEN THERE'S, UH, SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS ON EITHER SIDE.

SO THAT WOULD WHAT BE THE, THE REQUEST TO REMOVE THAT ONE.

UM, THE PROPERTY HAS ACCESS FOR BOTH WATER AND SEWER LONG RUN REAGAN BOULEVARD.

UH, THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY SITS UNDEVELOPED.

UM, A DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD FOR THE OVERALL PROJECT, UH, ON AUGUST OF 2021.

A THOROUGH VER MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT WAS DISCUSSED, UH, TO REMOVE OR RELOCATE.

UH, THEY KIND OF, UH, DISCUSSED BOTH OPTIONS, UH, THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF REPUBLIC CAROLS THROUGH THIS SITE.

IN THE END, IT MADE MORE SENSE TO REMOVE IT, UH, DUE TO THE VARIANCE AND WHATNOT.

UM, NOTIFICATION WAS, UH, POSTED ON SITE.

UM, THERE'S SOME PICTURES OF THE SIGNAGE THAT THEY PUT OUT.

UM, AND TONIGHT IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

AND IN FEBRUARY, UM, CITY COUNCIL'S PUBLIC HEARING IN THE READING OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD TAKE PLACE.

UH, THE DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL TO REMOVE THE EXTENSION OF REPUBLIC TRAILS FROM HAZELWOOD, UH, SUBDIVISION TO RONALD REAGAN IS SUPPORTED TWOFOLD BY THE FOLLOWING.

THE SUBJECT TRACK CONTAINS SEVERAL SUBSTANTIAL CHALLENGES, SUCH AS TOPOGRAPHY, FLOODPLAIN, AND FLOODWAY, UH, WITHIN THE PROPOSED ROAD ALIGNMENT OF REPUBLIC TRAILS ON THE SUBJECT TRACK, ROADWAY FLOODING, SAFETY AND ENGINEERING CONCERNS ARE CITED AS THE REASON FOR REMOVAL, UH, EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS TO THE NORTH, SUCH AS BLOCKHOUSE CREEK APARTMENTS, LEANDER JUNCTION APARTMENTS AND HAZELWOOD SUBDIVISION ARE NOT DEPENDENT ON THIS CONNECTION BEING MADE.

THIS ARGUMENT IS FURTHER STRENGTHENED BY THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE BY CITY COUNCIL TO REMOVE THE EXTENSION OF REPUBLIC TRAILS TO THE SOUTH AND THROUGH THE BLOCKHOUSE CREEK, UH, MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

HIS PROPOSAL IS IN LINE WITH BOTH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION.

THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, IF GRANTED, WOULD SERVE AS A CORRECTION TO THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

UH, THE THOROUGH FAIR PLAN TO REFLECT THE CHANGES FOR ALL THE IMPACTED PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH, AS WELL AS ALIGN WITH THE COUNCIL DIRECTION IN IMPROVING THE BLOCKHOUSE CREEK APARTMENTS.

VARIANCE, UH, TO REMOVE THE SEGMENT OF REPUBLIC CAROL'S

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EXTENSION, UH, THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH A POWERPOINT AS WELL, SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO HIM.

COMMISSIONER COSGROVE? I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU MR. DELL, APPLICANT PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS ETHAN HARWELL.

I'M A PLANNER WITH KIMLEY HORN AND ASSOCIATES.

I'M HERE THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF BRIDGE TOWER HOMES, UM, OUR CLIENT, WHICH IS THE DEVELOPER OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, ON RONALD REAGAN.

AS COREY MENTIONED, OUR REQUEST TONIGHT IS TO REMOVE THIS ROADWAY.

UM, REALLY IS AN ACTION OF CLEANUP, UH, TO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, UM, WHICH IS REALLY INFEASIBLE, UM, DUE TO SOME NATURAL CONSTRAINTS ON THE SITE AND SOME, UH, PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA THAT HAS BLOCKED THE ALIGNMENT.

UH, THIS ROADWAY ON THE PLAN DOES RUN PARALLEL TO A TRAIL.

UM, WE ARE PROPOSING TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT THE TRAIL.

OUR TEAMS ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON THAT NOW.

ALL WE'RE REQUESTING TONIGHT IS THE REMOVAL OF THE ROADWAY.

AS COREY OVERVIEWED WITH YOU.

UM, THE PROPOSED ALIGNMENT WOULD CROSS FOUR PROPERTIES THERE AT THE TOP IN YELLOW.

IT WOULD CROSS THE, UH, BLOCKHOUSE CREEK APARTMENTS COMPLEX, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THEN IT WOULD CROSS THE LEANER PARK APARTMENTS, UH, SITE.

UM, OUR, THE SITE JUST TO THE NORTH OF OURS, AND THEN OUR, UH, PROPERTY THERE IN RED, IF WE WORK DOWN THROUGH THAT ALIGNMENT HERE IN THE BLOCKHOUSE CREEK APARTMENTS, UM, YOU CAN SEE WHERE, UM, THE VARIANCE THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, LAST SPRING, EXCUSE ME, UH, MAY, 2021, UH, PERMITTED THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOME STRUCTURES OVER, UH, THE PLACE WHERE THAT ALIGNMENT, UH, WOULD MATCH, UM, THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION TODAY.

UM, IF THIS ROADWAY WERE TO BE CONTINUED, UH, THROUGH TO THE NORTH DOWNWARD PUBLIC TRAILS, YOU COULD BE, UH, ONE CREATING ISSUE AT THE BLACK HOUSE CREEK APARTMENTS, BUT ALSO CREATING FURTHER ISSUES WITHIN THE HAZELWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WHICH ON REPUBLIC TRAILS HAS, UM, LOADED STREETS, UM, MEANING THEY HAVE THE DRIVEWAYS, UM, ON THE STREETS THERE.

IT'S DEFINITELY NOT A STREET, UM, THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE LOTS OF TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY AT PEAK HOURS.

THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE ALIGNMENT, UH, THE ROADWAY HAS BEEN DEDICATED ACROSS THE LEANER, UH, PARK APARTMENTS.

HOWEVER, UM, WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE PORTION OF THE ROADWAY THAT WOULD BE ON OUR TRACT, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE PROPOSE SIX NINE DOWN HOMES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BLOCKHOUSE CREEK.

THAT YELLOW LINE REPRESENTS THE CENTER LINE OF THE CREEK.

THIS ROADWAY WOULD BE ON THE NORTH WHERE WE DON'T TAKE ACCESS, BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE WHERE THE MAJORITY OF OUR FLOODPLAIN AND FLOODWAY IS.

UH, THE, THE SPACE WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO DEDICATE, UH, BY, BY SHEER LUCK OF GEOGRAPHY, UH, TO, UH, DEDICATE FOR THIS ROADWAY IS ENCUMBERED BY FLOODPLAIN, UH, FEMA.

100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN ARE CALCULATED FLOODPLAIN, UH, SOME TOPOGRAPHY SLOPING DOWN TO THE CREEK, UM, IN, UH, SEVERAL TREES.

UH, SO, UH, IF WE WERE TO DEDICATE THIS RIDE AWAY, UH, TO THE CITY, UH, WE WOULD BE UNABLE TO REALLY PROVIDE YOU WITH A SUITABLE PIECE OF LAND, UM, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A ROADWAY.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YOU.

I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

IF WE HAVE SOMEONE ASK AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, THANK YOU, SIR.

RIGHT NOW, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR A DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER MAY.

COMMISSIONER OLIVER? NO QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER MOSS? I'M GOOD.

COMMISSIONER LATROM.

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

WILL IT JUST DEAD END WHERE IT IS WITH, UH, EXACTLY WHAT WILL THE END OF THIS LOOK LIKE, WHERE IT'S ALREADY, UM, IN HALO? THE PHOTOS? YEAH, THERE'S A CRASH GATE THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE BLOCK HOUSE APARTMENTS.

UM, WHEN THAT VARIANCE WAS APPROVED, THAT'S WHAT THEY AGREED TO.

IT'S, UH, FOR EMERGENCY EXIT ONLY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

SO THAT'S THE STUB FROM HAZELWOOD.

THAT GUY RIGHT HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DID I HEAR YOU CORRECT TO SAY THAT THE STUB UP IN HAZELWOOD GOES RIGHT INTO THE BUILDING OF THE, OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S RIGHT THERE.

THIS ONE RIGHT HERE? YEAH, IT'S A CRASH GATE.

SO IT'S LIKE A, FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES ONLY.

LET'S SEE IF YOU CAN, UH, I HAVE, YEAH, IT'D BE RIGHT.

HE WAS SHOWING THE IF ROAD.

I SEE WHAT EXTENDED.

I GOT IT.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z

I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, AND I HAVE NO QUESTIONS EITHER.

THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL SECOND.

I GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER COSGROVE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

UH,

[11. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-22-0018 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to adopt the Winding Oak PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning districts of SFT-2-A (Single-Family Townhouse) and GC-2-A (General Commercial) and Subdivision Case CP-22-0010 to adopt the Winding Oak Concept Plan on two parcel of land approximately 12 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R430300 and R538852; and commonly known as 100 Winding Oak Drive, Williamson County, Texas Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-22-0018 as described above. Discuss and consider action regarding Subdivision Case CP-22-0010 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

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2218.

TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR ONE B, SINGLE FAMILY RULE TO ADOPT THE WHINING OAK, PUT WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICTS OF SFT TWO, A SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE AND GC TWO, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND SUBDIVISION CASE, CP DASH 22 DASH ZERO 10.

TO ADOPT THE WHINING OAK CONCEPT PLAN ON TWO PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 12 ACRES IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCELS R 4,300 AND R 5 3 8 8 52, AND COMMONLY KNOWN AS 100 WINDING OAK DRIVE, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

MICHAEL JANOWSKI, PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UH, SO THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS AND THE FIRST STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

UH, SO THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP COMMERCIAL, UH, ALONG HERE AWAY, AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND PUT IT AT THE CONCEPT PLAN PAGE.

UH, WITH SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSES BUFFERING THE COMMERCIAL AND THE LARGER LOT SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH, UH, THIS REQUEST INCLUDES A CONCEPT PLAN, UH, FOR THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

UH, SOME OF THE SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS, UH, IN AN EFFORT TO REDUCE THE SHORT AND LONG TERM WATER SYSTEM DEMANDS FOLLOWING A 308% INCREASE IN THE POPULATION, UH, FROM 2010 TO 2022.

UH, A RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 20TH, 2022 TO LIMIT CONSIDERATION OF ZONING REQUESTS THAT SEEK TO INCREASE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.

UH, BASED ON THIS RESOLUTION, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE REQUEST.

UH, THIS REQUEST INCLUDES THE ADDITION OF 70 TOWNHOUSE UNITS AT A DENSITY OF APPROXIMATELY 9.5 ACRES PER UNIT.

UH, STAFF WOULD SUPPORT THE REQUEST IF THE DENSITY WAS REDUCED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RESOLUTION, UH, WHICH DOES ALLOW FOR, UH, S FFR, S F E, OR SFS, UH, LOTS.

UM, SO THE SURROUNDING AREA, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HIWAY, UH, JUST UH, WEST OF RONALD REAGAN.

THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY A MIX OF, UH, COMMERCIAL AND INTERIM RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

SO I'LL GO BACK TO THE, UH, CURRENT ZONING.

UM, SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THIS IS ALL GONNA BE COMMERCIAL, AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY, UH, INTERIM RESIDENTIAL ALONG WITH THE, UH, PALMERA RIDGE SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH.

UH, THE HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY, THE FRONT PORTION WAS ANNEXED, UH, BACK IN 2016.

UH, A FEW MONTHS LATER, UH, THE BACK HALF OF THE PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED.

UH, THIS PROPERTY DOES HAVE ACCESS ONTO HERE WAY IT HAS ACCESS TO WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITIES, UH, THEY MAY NEED TO BE EXTENDED.

WE HELD A DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT BACK IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR.

UH, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.

UH, THE ONLY CHANGE WAS OUR ORDINANCE CHANGED, UH, THE WATER RESOLUTION, WHICH I MENTIONED EARLIER.

UH, SO STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AGAIN, UH, OF THIS REQUEST.

THE INTENT OF THE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, UH, USE COMPONENT IS TO PROVIDE FOR MORE VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES, ALONG WITH SERVING AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE MODERATE SIZE LOTS AND HIGHER DENSITY AREAS.

UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN AN ACTIVITY CENTER, WHICH DOES ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT, UM, WHILE AIMING TO LIMIT THE RESIDENTIAL TO ZERO TO 30% OF THE OVERALL CENTER.

CURRENTLY, THIS ACTIVITY CENTER INCLUDES 14%, UH, RESIDENTIAL THAT'S ALREADY SPOKEN FOR, AND ROUGHLY 46% INTERIM, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RURAL RESIDENTIAL.

UH, HOWEVER, THE WATER RESOLUTION DOES STATE OR PRIORITIZE 0% RESIDENTIAL LAND USE WITHIN ACTIVITY CENTERS.

UH, THIS PUT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING HIGHER STANDARDS AND REQUESTS THE FOLLOWING WAIVERS.

UH, HIGHER STANDARDS INCLUDE PROHIBITED USES, UH, SUCH AS OUTDOOR ANIMAL BOARDING, MANUFACTURED HOUSING SALES, COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT, FUNERAL HOME, PASSENGER TERMINAL, UH, MINI STORAGE AMONG OTHERS.

UH, INCLUDES A LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN THE RE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL.

UH, AND ONE OF THE WAIVERS THEY'RE REQUESTING IS, UH, TO ALLOW MULTIPLE TOWNHOUSE UNITS ON A SINGLE LOT.

UH, AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS TRYING TO WRITE IN WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES TO THE TOWN HOME COMPONENT, UH, BY REQUIRING CERTAIN WATER EFFICIENCY STANDARDS IN THE UNITS THEMSELVES, BUT THEN ALSO RESTRICTING ANY KIND OF TURF IN THE FRONT YARDS OF THE TOWNHOME UNITS.

MR. JANOWSKI.

IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS MARK BAKER WITH S E C PLANNING.

GOOD TO SEE.

YOU'ALL.

HAPPY NEW YEAR.

UM, JUST WANT, I DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION.

JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF ITEMS. UH, MICHAEL HAD MENTIONED WE KICKED THIS PROCESS OFF IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR, AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH NUMEROUS ROUNDS OF COMMENTS, UH, FROM THAT ORIGINAL INITIATED, UH, PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING.

AND SO WE, I GUESS WE'RE FOLLOWING A LITTLE BIT ON THE MERCY OF THE COURT HERE, AND THAT WE WERE HOPING TO BE BEFORE YOU, WELL BEFORE RESOLUTION IN OCTOBER THAT WE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT.

AND SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WORKED WITH STAFF ON THROUGH THIS PROCESS, KNOWING THAT WATER WAS AN ISSUE FOR SOME TIME,

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SO IT'D BE TRULY ZERO ESCAPEE DRIP IRRIGATION AND BUBBLERS FOR THE TREES WOULD BE THE EXTENT OF THE IRRIGATION.

UH, THE, FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT, THIS IS, LIKE MICHAEL MENTIONED, THIS IS ON KIND OF THE WESTERN FRINGE OF THAT ACTIVITY NODE.

THAT WOULD BE A HERO WAY IN RONALD WA REAGAN.

AND SO TYPICALLY YOU WOULDN'T SEE, YOU KNOW, 70 FOOT LOTS HAPPENING IN AN ACTIVITY ZONE FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT.

YOU SEE KIND OF COMMERCIAL TRANSITIONING TO MEDIUM OR HIGHER DENSITY BACK TO SINGLE FAMILY.

SO WE, WE VIEW THIS AS AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE CONFIGURATION, HAVING COMMERCIAL ON HERO WAY, AND THEN HAVING TOWNHOMES AS A TRANSITION TO THE RESIDENTIAL THAT DIRECTLY ABOVE US TO THE NORTH.

UM, AND SO WE'D ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE LAND USE, UM, WHILE YOU'RE ALSO CONSIDERING RESOLUTIONS ON LARGE LOTS.

AND I'D ALSO, UM, UM, LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT EVEN WITH LARGE LOTS, IF IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO CONSERVE WATER, THAT'S PROBABLY A CHALLENGING, UH, APPROACH TO DO IT BECAUSE THE LARGER THE YARDS, THAT'S WHERE THE WATER'S GOING IS ON THE LANDSCAPE.

AND SO BY HAVING A, A LARGER LOT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAVING WATER, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE, BIGGER ISSUE.

BUT, UM, I'D ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT WE SUBMITTED THIS OR STARTED THIS PROCESS IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR.

UH, WE'VE, WE'VE MADE EVERY EFFORT TO TRY TO BE WATER CONSCIOUS.

WE'VE ALSO WORKED THROUGH NOTES ON THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT IS PART OF THIS SUBMITTAL.

AND ONE OF THOSE NOTES, WE WENT THROUGH THREE DIFFERENT ROUNDS OF COMMENTS ON THE REWORDING TO GET THE COMMENT HOW THE CITY WANTED IT, WHICH BASICALLY REQUIRES THE COMMERCIAL TO BE FULLY BUILT OUT BEFORE A CO FOR A TOWN HOME COULD EVEN BE PULLED.

AND SO THAT'S A PRETTY UNIQUE COMPONENT OF THIS THAT, THAT I HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED YET, TO WHERE THE COMMERCIAL IS COMPLETELY DEVELOPED AND GETS ITS CO BEFORE ANY RESIDENTIAL WOULD TAKE PLACE.

SO WHEN YOU PUT THAT INTO THE TIMELINE, YOU KNOW, THAT DELAYS THE TOWN HOME COMPONENT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT BY, UH, COUPLE YEARS AT LEAST.

SO HOPE YOU'D TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL.

AND I JUST, I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE HERE WITH THE, UH, UH, ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS REPRESENTATIVES AS WELL, AND HOPE THAT, THAT, UH, YOU WOULD LOOK AT LAND USE COMPATIBILITY.

AND, UH, I KNOW THERE'S NOT GRANDFATHERING FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IN TERMS OF, UM, THIS RESOLUTION WITH THE FACT THAT WE DID START THE WHEELS IN MOTION A YEAR AGO, I'D HOPE WOULD COME INTO PLAY IN THE DECISION MAKING.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. BAKER.

I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I HAVE THREE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

UH, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU CAN COME TO THE PODIUM AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO, TO SPEAK.

MR. DAVID SLACK.

OH, YES, SIR.

UH, MS. MELISSA FARSLEY.

MA'AM, IF YOU'LL COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M MELISSA FARSLEY.

I RESIDE AT 2156 CLARISSA LYNN WAY IN PALMER RIDGE.

UM, I AM A RESIDENT THERE, AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I'D LIKE FOR US TO SAY THAT LEANDER HAS ENOUGH DEALERSHIP, HOSPITALS, APARTMENTS, AND TOWN HOMES.

WE ARE BEING OVERWHELMED WITH THEM, AND WE'RE NOT REALLY LOOKING AT THE LONG TERM, UH, PLANNING OF THE CITY AS FAR AS BRINGING IN REVENUE.

LEANDER DOESN'T HAVE THE ROADS NEEDED TO SUSTAIN ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ON HERO AND RONALD REAGAN.

THEY DON'T E THESE WINDING OAK DOESN'T EVEN SUSTAIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRYING TO GET OUT OF THERE ONTO HI WAY TO GET CHILDREN TO GLEN AND TO TAR, UM, TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS, AND THEN TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT TO GET ONTO RONALD.

REAGAN IS NOT WORKING BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THAT LIGHT, TRAFFIC IS STILL BACKED UP.

THERE IS NO SUSTAINABILITY, UM, FOR THAT.

ALSO, PALMARA RIDGE NEEDS A TURNING LANE, UM, INTO DEVELOPMENT OFF OF RONALD REAGAN.

WE NEED A LEFT-HAND TURNING LANE INTO THE CHURCH THAT'S NEXT TO REAGAN'S OVERLOOK BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC, THE 55 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT THAT WE HAVE AT THE TOP OF THE HILL AT RONALD REAGAN IS NOT SLOWING PEOPLE DOWN.

AND THERE IS STILL GOING TO BE ACCIDENTS.

WE JUST HAD ONE WITH THE POLICE OFFICER NOT TOO LONG AGO.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE THAT THE CITY

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IS BRINGING IN.

WE ALL OF, UM, RESIDENTS, THEIR MONEY'S GOING TO CEDAR PARK IN GEORGETOWN FOR RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS.

THE CITY SHOULD REALLY, UM, FACTOR IN AMENITIES, THESE RETAIL SPACES AND RESTAURANTS SO THAT WE CAN START BRINGING IN MONEY FROM LIBERTY HILL, WEST GEORGETOWN, AND THE NORTHERN PART OF CEDAR PARK.

UM, AND WITH DOING THAT, THE LEANDER IS THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A RECREATIONAL CENTER.

GEORGETOWN HAS ONE, CEDAR PARK HAS ONE.

THEY ALSO HAVE THE Y M C A.

WE COULD BRING IN A LOT OF REVENUE BY NOT FOCUSING ON HOW MANY HOMES WE CAN PUT IN ONE LITTLE SPOT.

HOW MUCH MORE DEVELOPMENT DO WE NEED BRINGING PEOPLE IN, AND THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THEM TO EAT AND TO GROW AS A COMMUNITY.

UM, I'D LIKE FOR US TO, UH, KILL THIS PLAN AND REFOCUS ON WHAT THE PEOPLE NEED AND WHAT, AND NOT WHAT THE DEVELOPERS NEED.

THANK YOU, MS. FARSLEY.

UH, MR. SHANE PAINTER, MR. PAINTER, FOR YOU TO SPEAK YOUR NAME AND, UH, ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

BUT, UH, GOSH, NINE HOUSES ON AN ACRE, IT'S A LITTLE MUCH, UH, POSSIBLY YOU COULD THINK OF, UH, A LESS DENSITY.

UH, MY NAME IS SHANE PAINTER.

I LIVE AT, UH, 24 1 AIRPORT DRIVE.

I AM HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS MY OPINION TO THIS ITEM, UM, THE PROPOSED REZONING OF WINING OAK PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

I'M PROPOSED TO THIS BASED ON THE WATER SUPPLY SITUATION, THE LAGGING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN LEANDER, AS WELL AS LAGGING INFRASTRUCTURE IN LEANDER.

THE CITY COUNCIL RECENTLY HEARD FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND REPRESENTATIVE OF THE WATER UTILITY REGARDING A RESOLUTION TO LIMIT THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.

AS YOU KNOW, THEY PASSED THAT RESOLUTION.

THIS, UM, ZONING REQUEST DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THAT RESOLUTION, UH, WHICH SEEKS TO PRIORITIZE LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND ALLOW THE CITY TIME TO CATCH UP ON NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS AND SO FORTH.

UH, AS NOTED BY THE CITY MANAGER DURING THAT MEETING, THE WATERS SITUATION FOR LEANDER IS AT RISK OF BEING UNABLE TO MEET CURRENT DEMANDS, UH, WHEN ACCOUNTING FOR EXPECTED POPULATION GROWTH OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

AND THAT'S BASED ON CURRENT ENTITLEMENTS.

EVEN WITHOUT FURTHER RESIDENTIAL APPROVALS, WE MAY STILL HAVE REAL TROUBLES IN THE SUMMER OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, UH, BASED ON THOSE DATA PRESENTED, UH, UNTIL NEW WATER SYSTEMS COME ONLINE IN 2025 OR 2026.

UH, ALSO AS NOTED IN THAT MEETING, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO SUPPORT THE EXISTING POPULATION IS MATERIALLY LAGGING BEHIND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SOME 58% BEHIND WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.

UH, IN THE MEANTIME, AS NOTED BEFORE, WE ARE SPENDING OUR MONEY IN CEDAR PARK AND IN LEANDER, UH, RATHER THAN LEANDER.

UM, BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALSO LAGGING SIGNIFICANTLY BEHIND THE RESIDENTIAL DE DEVELOPMENTS.

UH, WE RECENTLY SAW ISSUES DELIVERING NATURAL GAS TO TWO NEIGHBORHOODS DURING A COLD SNAP, UH, DUE TO INADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, LEAVING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AT RISK OF NOT BEING ABLE TO HEAT THEIR HOMES AND COOK FOOD.

UM, THE ROADS ARE BUSY AND ARE BARELY HOLDING TOGETHER IN SOME CASES.

UM, SIGNALS AND TURNING LANES, AS NOTED, ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED ACROSS MUCH OF LANDOR.

UM, THERE'S ALREADY A PLETHORA OF APARTMENTS IN PLACE, UH, CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND ALREADY, UM, ENTITLED BY ZONING TO BE CONSTRUCTED.

UH, THERE'S REALLY NO NEED TO ADD MORE DENSITY, UH, IN CONTRAST, UH, THE NEAREST PARK WITH ANY SPORTING COURT IS 10 MINUTES AWAY FROM MY HOME.

UH, THERE'S ONLY ONE PARK IN LEANER THAT HAS A BASKETBALL COURT.

DID YOU KNOW THAT? THAT SEEMS WILD TO ME.

IT'S ALMOST 15 MINUTE DRIVE FROM MY HOUSE.

SO I'M HERE TO ASK THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE, UH, ADDRESS THESE ISSUES, UH, BEFORE APPROVING ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS, PARTICULARLY HIGHER DENSITY ONES.

UH, PLEASE DENY THE ZONING CHANGE.

THE CITIZENS OF LEANDER DO NOT NEED MORE TOWN HOMES RIGHT NOW.

WE NEED RELIABLE WATER, RELIABLE NATURAL GAS, BETTER ROADS, UH, AND SIGNAGE, AS WELL AS PARKS THAT DON'T REQUIRE COMMUTE ACROSS TOWN.

UH, PERHAPS THE CITY SHOULD CONSIDER BUYING THIS AREA AND TURNING IT INTO A PARK.

AND WITH THAT, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. PAINTER.

MR. SLACK, SIR, FOR YOUR SPEAKER NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

MY NAME'S DAVID SLACK.

I LIVE AT 500 WINDY NOTE.

THAT'S THAT TWO ACRES THAT ARE CUT OUT UP THERE.

UH, I JUST WANT TO OPPOSE THE, UH, TRAFFIC CONGESTION THAT'S, UH, BEEN CAUSED BY ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THERE.

AND I FEEL LIKE THAT, UH, ADDING APPROXIMATELY 70 HOMES RIGHT BEHIND US AND THE EXIT THAT THEY'LL HAVE ON WINDING OAK AND THEN GOING BACK INTO PALM RIDGE IS GONNA FUNNEL A LOT OF THAT TRAFFIC BACK INTO THAT SUBDIVISION BACK THERE.

UH, I THINK IT THAT, UH, SOME, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO, UH, GROWTH OR, OR EXPANSION,

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AND I KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA LOWER.

I, I BELIEVE THE TOWNHOUSE WOULD LOWER THE VALUES OF NOT ONLY MY HOME, ARE THEY, BUT ALSO IN PALM RIDGE, I HAVE WATER CONCERNS, UH, BASICALLY ABOUT, UH, WHAT THE GENTLEMAN'S ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE MY, UH, OPPOSITION KNOWN.

AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU, MR. SLACK.

THAT'S ALL THE CARDS I HAVE.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? YES, SIR.

YOU CAN COME ON UP.

IF YOU'D SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TO THE MICROPHONE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

AND ONCE YOU'RE DONE, SIR, PLEASE JUST GRAB A CARD OUTSIDE ON THE TABLE AND TURN IT IN THERE ON THE END FOR US.

OH, PERFECT.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME IS STEVE OBERG.

I'M AT, UH, 2336 BELLON DRIVE IN, UH, PALMARA RIDGE.

I HAD A COUPLE ISSUES THAT, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS DIDN'T MENTION.

THE FIRST ONE WAS NOTIFICATION.

UH, I ASKED THE PALMARA RIDGE HOA IF THEY EVER RECEIVED NOTIFICATION, AND THEY SAID THEY DID NOT.

SO I THINK PART OF THE NOTIFICATION IS TO CONTACT THE HOA IN THE AFFECTED AREA FOR HOUSES WERE NOTIFIED, BUT NOT THE HOA ITSELF.

UM, SECOND ISSUE IS, UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOME.

UM, WHEN I LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE, UM, UH, PLANNING DOCUMENT, IT SAYS THAT, UH, UNDER THE STATEMENT OF INTENT, UH, SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOMES ARE SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE OR BE LOCATED WITHIN 600 FEET OF PARKLAND OR OTHER RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE.

THEY ARE NOT, THERE'S NO OPEN SPACE PARKLAND OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THAT ACTIVITY CENTER.

IT ALSO SAYS THAT SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOMES ARE TO BE LOCATED AND PLANNED COMMUNITIES OF GREATER THAN A HUNDRED ACRES IN COMPRISING LESS THAN 10% OF LOTS.

THIS IS NOT A HUNDRED ACRE DEVELOPMENT PLAN DEVELOPMENT, IT'S AN INFILL THAT DOES NOT NEED TO HAPPEN.

THE LAST THING IS THE DENSITY IS, UH, TOO HIGH FOR A TRANSITION TO THE, TO PALMARA RIDGE.

WE'RE GOING FROM FOUR OR FIVE HOUSES PER ACRE TO NINE.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE, THE DEVELOPER IS, IS INDICATED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMMON WALL ON THREE TO EIGHT TOWN HOMES ON MULTI-STORY TOWNHOMES ALL CONNECTED TOGETHER.

YOU'RE CREATING A VIEW WALL, NOTHING BUT BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET FROM EXISTING HOMES.

THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE.

UM, AND LASTLY, THE, WE'VE, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE I MENTIONED THE TRAFFIC.

WINDING OAKS IS A NARROW TWO-LANE ROAD, BARELY PAVED, NO, NO CURBS, NO STRIPING RIGHT ANGLE CURVE THAT PEOPLE DRIVE THROUGH THE MIDDLE, AND IT'S, IT'S THE FUNNEL FOR PEOPLE TO BRING THEIR KIDS TO.

AND FROM THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, WE'RE GONNA ADD 4,000, AT LEAST 4,000 TRIPS PER DAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

IF THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEN WE'LL TAKE THAT BACK TO THE OWNER.

MR. DO, UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, I HAVE A, A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER.

IF, UH, THERE'S A BIG RESISTANCE TO SWITCHING THIS AND, AND FEELING, ALTHOUGH I HAVE SYMPATHY FOR THE FACT, YOU MAY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE.

IT'S, UH, WE PASSED AN ORDINANCE AND WE NEED TO WORK FROM THERE.

BUT IF YOU'RE, DID I HEAR YOU CORRECT TO SAY THAT YOU'RE GONNA BUILD ALL THE COMMERCIAL AND HAVE THAT DONE, GET CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY BEFORE YOU'RE EVEN GOING TO ATTEMPT TO BUILD THE TOWNHOMES? I THINK DEVELOPMENT COULD OCCUR ON THE TOWNHOMES, BUT YOU COULDN'T HAVE A CO FOR A TOWNHOME UNTIL THE COMMERCIAL'S COMPLETE.

MY QUESTION IS, IS IF TO YOU IS, IF YOU'RE CERTAIN THAT YOU CAN GET THAT FAR WITH THE COMMERCIAL, WHY WOULDN'T YOU GO AHEAD WITH THE COMMERCIAL AND WAIT ON THE WHOLE REZONING OF THE BACK PIECE FOR TOWN HOMES AND SEE WHAT THE MOOD OF THE COMMUNITY IS, OR THE MO MOOD OF THE SITUATION IS THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WHICH IS ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD BE BEFORE YOU'D GET TO THAT POINT.

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THE OWNER OWNS THE FULL 12 ACRES.

UH, AT THE TIME WE THOUGHT IT'S A GOOD TRANSITIONAL USE GOING FROM COMMERCIAL TO A LOWER DENSITY, AND THAT FIT WITHIN THE COMP PLAN CONFINES AS WELL.

SO AT THE TIME THIS WAS PREPARED, UM, WE HADN'T HEARD THE COMMENTS WE'RE HEARING THIS EVENING ABOUT TOWN HOMES, UM, BEING TOO HIGH OF DENSITY.

WELL, I THINK IT'S THE AMOUNT OF TOWN HOMES THAT MIGHT BE DOING THAT.

AT THIS POINT, IT'S, IT'S GREATER THAN WHAT THE CURRENT RECENT ORDINANCE IS.

UH, THAT'S MY QUESTION.

THE, THE DENSITY OF THE TOWNHOMES IS WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF TOWNHOMES FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT.

UM, AND WE THOUGHT RATHER THAN TRYING TO TAKE THAT BACK HALF OF THAT PROPERTY AS A COMMERCIAL OR MORE INTENSE USE, UM, THAT THE TOWNHOMES WOULD BE MORE AMENABLE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION THAN PUTTING COMMERCIAL OR SOME OTHER KIND OF NON-RESIDENTIAL USE BUTTING UP AGAINST TO THOSE SAME HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY HOME SITES SOUNDS TO BE THE, WELL YOU GUYS REALIZE WHAT THE COST OF DIRT IS THESE DAYS.

SO THERE'S A FINANCIAL COMPONENT TO THE DENSITY AND, AND THAT COMPONENT.

SO EVEN THOUGH THE TOWN HOMES, THERE'S A COMMENT ABOUT HOW IT'LL LOWER THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME.

UM, THESE TOWN HOMES VERY WELL MAY SELL FOR MORE THAN WHAT THE PALMERO HOMES WERE WHEN THEY STARTED.

IT'S JUST THE REALITY OF THE MARKET IN, IN AUSTIN THESE DAYS.

SO, UM, I, I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT COMMENT ABOUT LOWERING THE VALUE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.

I'M DONE.

COMMISSIONER ELANTRA, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

JUST A COMMENT THAT, UM, IN, IN LIEU OF THE COUNCIL'S RESOLUTION, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SUPPORT ANYTHING EXCEPT COMMERCIAL OR LARGER LOT IN THIS AREA.

SO I, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS NOW.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

UH, COMMISSIONER OLIVER, I DO HAVE A QUESTION, UH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU AT LEAST, UM, REGARDING WINDING OAK TRAIL, UH, WITHIN YOUR CONSIDERATION TO YOUR MASTER PLAN, HAVE YOU TALKED OR DISCUSSED OR THOUGHT ABOUT ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT ROADWAY WITH, WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT? YEAH, THIS, THIS IS THE ZONING STAGE, AND SO PART OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO NEXT IS SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND SO WE WOULD'VE TO DO, MOST LIKELY HAVE TO DO A T I A, WHICH WOULD THEN VET OUT WHAT THIS RESPONSIBLY, WHAT THIS PROJECT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IN TERMS OF ROAD IMPROVEMENTS OR TURN LANE OR ANY, ANY KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT WINDING OAK WOULD BE DEFINED WHEN THAT T I IS DONE.

UNDERSTOOD.

AND THEN ROBIN, YOU, UH, THE, THE, THE HERO WAY IS LOOKING TO BE EXPANDED BY WHAT, 350 FEET? IS THAT GONNA BE THE NEW VARIANCE? THAT'S CORRECT.

KNOW, SUPER IMPORTANT ALSO.

WHAT'S THE, WHAT IS OUR TIMELINE ON THAT AT THIS POINT? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT ONE.

I KNOW IT'S A PROJECT WITH TECH DOT, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, AND SURE.

IT'S ALL IN PLANNING AND FUNDING RIGHT NOW.

SO, UNDERSTOOD.

IF, IF THIS JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, IF THIS WERE APPROVED, LIKE WHAT, WHEN WOULD YOU BREAK GROUND LEASE ON THE COMMERCIAL? UM, IF THEY STARTED TODAY, YOU'VE GOT A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS YOU'VE GOTTA WORK THROUGH WITH THE CITY.

SO ROBIN, HELP ME OUT.

THAT'S PROBABLY A SIX MONTH PROCESS.

AND THEN, UH, THEN YOU'VE GOTTA BID THAT OUT, GET CONTRACTORS GET LINED UP.

SO SAY YOU GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITHIN A YEAR, YOU'VE PROBABLY GOT AT LEAST, UH, FOR THE SCALE OF THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, YOU'VE GOT PROBABLY A Y I WOULD GUESS A YEAR AND A HALF OF CONSTRUCTION.

SO YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING TWO AND A HALF TO THREE YEARS BEFORE YOU'RE SEEING A COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

SO MY, I MEAN, MY, MY CONCERN IS GONNA BE TRAFFIC DENSITY, UH, THROUGH THIS AREA, UH, YOU KNOW, THROUGH WINDING OAK AND UP AND DOWN HI WAY, WHICH IS ALREADY PRETTY, PRETTY DENSE AT THIS POINT.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE INTERSECTIONS ARE IN AND OUT OF PALMARA RIDGE AND THE INTERSECTION OF HERO WAY IS, IS CURRENTLY DANGEROUS.

I KNOW THE, THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS GOING IN, THAT'LL PROBABLY MITIGATE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING THERE WITH SOME OF THE ACCIDENTS.

BUT NONETHELESS, UM, YEAH, THIS IS, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS RIGHT NOW IN THAT AREA AND, AND ADDING MORE DENSITY, MORE, UM, JUST MORE RESIDENTIAL AND DEFINITELY IN LIEU OF THE, UH, COUNCIL'S, UM, RECENT VOTE REGARDING DENSITY.

YEAH, I, I THINK I'D HAVE TO ALIGN WITH MY COUNTERPARTS OVER HERE.

THAT'S ENOUGH.

NO MORE, NO MORE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MOSS.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, OKAY, UM, EXCUSE ME.

UH, I HAVE A SERIOUS ISSUE WITH THE TRAFFIC AND EVEN MORE SERIOUS ISSUE WITH THE WATER SUPPLY.

AND IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT FOR US TO, UM, BE ABLE TO HAVE COMMERCIAL REVENUE COMING IN THAT'S LIKE, YOU

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SO EVEN IF YOU BUILT THE COMMERCIAL DEAL, WE TALKING, HOW LONG IS IT'LL TAKE? AND, AND DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT WHILE YOU'RE WORKING ON THE COMMERCIAL DEAL, YOU, EXCUSE ME, YOU WOULD START BUILDING SOME OF THE TOWN HOMES DURING THAT PERIOD, POTENTIALLY THE WAY YOU COULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, I GUESS CONCEIVABLY ON A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT YOU COULDN'T, YOU COULDN'T SELL A TOWN HOME UNTIL THAT COMMERCIAL WAS WAS OCCUPIED.

YEAH, BUT I, I HAVE A CONCERN.

EXCUSE ME.

I HAVE A CONCERN WITH THAT.

UM, YOU'RE GONNA DO ALL THAT BUILDING, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYTHING, AND YOU GOT THE NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, UH, UM, I'M KIND OF FEELING KIND OF SHAKY ABOUT THAT.

SO, UM, AGAIN, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MY COUNTERPARTS.

UM, THOSE ARE MY ISSUES AND I JUST WANTED TO BE ON RECORD.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

MAY, IF WE IGNORED THE CITY COUNCIL'S RESOLUTION ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

LET'S TALK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT THE ACTIVITY CENTER WHERE IDEALLY WE HAVE A 70% COMMERCIAL AND 30% RESIDENTIAL.

AND THIS IS COMING IN AT ABOUT, AND I'M, THE MATH MAY BE A LITTLE FUZZY HERE CAUSE I'M DOING THIS ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT LOOKS TO BE ABOUT 35% COMMERCIAL AND 65% RESIDENTIAL.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KOSGROW.

, I'VE GOT A PRETTY BIG PROBLEM WITH THAT.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH A BIG SWATCH OF LAND THAT VIRTUALLY HAS TO COME IN A HUNDRED PERCENT COMMERCIAL AND NOTHING MIXED IN WITH IT.

UM, OR WE JUST IGNORE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO WE'RE IGNORE, WE'VE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE DENSITY FOR RESIDENTIAL BY THE CITY COUNCIL ORDINANCE, AND WE ALSO HAVE ISSUES WITH THE ROADS.

AND I, I THINK THE RESIDENTIAL SHOULD BE LESS THAN A THIRD OF THAT LAW, UM, AND A LOT LESS DENSE THAN WHAT IT IS NOW, THOUGH, THO.

THOSE ARE MY BIGGEST THINGS ON IT.

DENSITY IN THE ACTIVITY CENTER.

UM, I THINK YOU RAISED THE MENTIONING POINTS MR. BAKER, ABOUT, UM, WHERE THE MOST INTENSE USE OF WATER OCCURS.

UM, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE TODAY.

UM, AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY, WHY YOUR, YOUR CLIENT WOULD WANT BOTH PIECES, BECAUSE IT'S NEVER CHEAPER TO BUILD THAN IT IS TODAY, RIGHT? AND THEY WANNA HAVE SOME COST ASSURANCE.

UH, UM, AND SO I UNDERSTAND EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA PULL A CO BEFORE COMMERCIAL'S DONE, UM, WHY YOU'D WANT TO START THAT PROCESS.

HOWEVER, AND, AND, AND I'M SYMPATHETIC TO YOUR CLIENT, WE'RE WE ARE SITTING HERE WITH A VERY CLEAR ORDINANCE FROM, FROM COUNSEL.

IT'S, IT'S VERY CLEAR AND, UM, UH, MAYBE YOU CAN CONVINCE THEM , UM, BUT, BUT AS WE SIT TODAY, IT, IT DOESN'T MEET, UH, WHERE WE ARE RE REGARDLESS OF, OF THE BEST ARGUMENTS WE CAN MAKE RIGHT THERE, THERE IS NO GRANDFATHERING.

SO YEAH, THIS IS WHAT WE, AND THAT, AND THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING IS KIND OF BACKING UP TO WHAT YOU STARTED OFF WITH.

IF THERE WAS NO RESOLUTION, HOW WOULD YOU LOOK AT THIS CASE FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT? AND IF YOUR STANCE IS STILL THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE, THEN I GUESS I WOULD, I WOULD ASK FOR SOME GUIDANCE MAYBE OF WHAT, WHAT USES YOU GUYS WOULD FIND TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE ACTIVITY CENTER IN THIS LOCATION, KNOWING THAT IT'S ON THE OUTER FRINGE.

SO IT'S SET QUITE A BIT BACK FROM HERO WAY, SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S ON THE HARD CORNER OF HERO AND RONALD REAGAN.

SO WHAT KIND OF USES DO YOU THINK YOU COULD ACCEPT IF I WENT BACK TO THE OWNER AND SAID, LISTEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ALTERNATIVES WOULD YOU WILLING BE WILLING TO CONSIDER? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? CERTAINLY.

UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

SO, UM, MR. BAKER, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR YOU.

I JUST HAVE A FEW COMMENTS AND REALLY IT'S MORE FOR STAFF AND MAYBE EVEN A POTENTIAL DISCUSSION FOR THE COMMISSION.

UH, YOU KNOW, I, I DO APPRECIATE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE LOOKING, GOING BACK TO WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER MAY SAID OF, OF NO, UH, NO RESOLUTION IN PLACE, WHICH AS EVERYONE HAS SAID, WE'VE GOT CLEAR GUIDANCE AND, AND WE KIND OF KNOW OUR SPACE IN THAT, AND YOU KIND OF SEE WHERE THAT'S HEADED TOO, MR. BAKER.

I KNOW.

UM, BUT EVEN WITHOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, I DO APPRECIATE THAT SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOME IS THE LOWEST

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HOWEVER, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT SOME OF THE, UH, DEFINITIONS THAT WE HAVE AROUND SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOMES VERSUS HOW WE IMPLEMENT IT THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO I THINK THERE ARE SOME DISCREPANCIES THERE, SUCH AS THE DISTANCE TO, YOU KNOW, PARKLAND OR, UM, OPEN AREA, ET CETERA.

SO ALL, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED BEFORE ARE SOMETHING THAT I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP, SIR, BECAUSE, UM, CROSS CROSS-REFERENCING THE GINORMOUS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVEN'T COMPLETELY GONE THROUGH.

SO YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME DO SOME MORE HOMEWORK NOW, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, SO, SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE KNEW AND YOU KNOW, I, I DO BELIEVE THAT CITY COUNCIL DID TALK ABOUT SOME SORT OF GRANDFATHERING, BUT THAT WAS FOR THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY PERMITTED, CORRECT? RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO THERE IS SOME, WE SAY THERE'S NO GRANDFATHERING, BUT THERE IS, AND YOU'RE JUST KIND OF, WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR QUITE A WHILE THAT YOU'RE JUST NOT AT THAT STAGE YET.

SO, YOU KNOW, I I, I, I DEFINITELY FEEL YOU THERE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAS SAID THAT, THAT'S, UH, WE'VE GOT PRETTY CLEAR GUIDANCE ON, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHERE OUR POSITION IS AND WHAT, AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

UM, I I DID WANT TO CHECK ON THE NOTIFICATION PIECE.

DON'T WE REQUIRE NOTIFICATION TO THE HOAS? YES.

ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z Z DASH 22 DASH 0 0 21 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR ONE B SINGLE FAMILY RULE TO ADOPT THE BAR OF YOUR RANCH EAST COMMERCIAL.

BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS AMISS.

SO THAT WOULD'VE ALSO BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAD WE BEEN MOVING DOWN THE LINE OF APPROVAL TO BEGIN WITH, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN AN, THAT'S GONNA BE A STICKING POINT FOR A FEW OF US UP HERE WHO PUT IN SOME OF THE STRINGENT NOTIFICATIONS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT RESIDENTS ARE PROPERLY NOTIFIED, UH, OF WHAT'S GOING IN AROUND THEM, IN AND AROUND THEM.

UM, AND I, AND I THOUGHT WE DID, SO IF, IF WE NEGLECTED THAT, THAT'S MY BAD.

I KNOW WE SENT LETTERS TO EVERYBODY WITHIN 500 FEET, AND I THOUGHT WE DID THE HOA, BUT I CAN GO BACK AND FOLLOW BACK UP, AND ROBIN, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME FIND THAT POINT PERSON IF I DIDN'T HAVE 'EM.

UM, AND, BUT, AND THEN THE, THE LAST THING, THE LAST COMMENT I HAVE IS JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I, I GET THAT WE HAVE OUR, OUR, UM, UH, GUIDANCE FROM COUNSEL, UH, BUT I ALSO SEE SOME KIND OF CONFLICTS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IF WE AS A CITY ARE RECOMMENDING THINGS SUCH AS FS, FFR, SFE, OR SFS IN AN ACTIVITY CENTER, AND WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS CLEARLY AGAINST IT.

SO THERE'S SOME CONFLICTING THINGS THERE AND, UH, HOW DO WE DECONFLICT THAT FOR OUR APPLICANTS WHO ARE COMING IN AND HOW DO WE GIVE, GIVE THEM BETTER GUIDANCE SO THAT IT REALLY JUST DOESN'T SEEM WONKY OR AT THE END OF ALL THIS, WHEN WE'RE OUT OF THE WATER CRISIS, HOPEFULLY THAT'S SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, BUT WE'LL SEE HOW THAT ROLLS OUT, UH, THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOME PATCHWORK THAT WE'VE DONE AS A RESULT OF TRYING TO SAVE WATER NOW.

SO I THINK THERE'S SOME WORK THAT, THAT WE AS A CITY NEED TO DO.

UM, SO THAT WAS ALL MY COMMENTS AND MY PROSELYTIZING.

UH, THIS IS NOT AN EASY ONE, I THINK, FOR ANY OF US.

SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY.

ONE SECOND.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DENIAL, AND THAT IS A UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THANK YOU, MR. BAKER.

[12. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-22-0021 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to adopt the Bar W Ranch East Commercial PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning districts of SFT-2-A (Single-Family Townhouse), MF-2-A (Multi-Family), and GC-2-A (General Commercial) on one parcel of land approximately 51.426 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R021711; and generally located to the southeast of the intersection of Kauffman Loop and Ronald W Reagan Blvd., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-22-0021 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

PUT WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICTS OF SFT TWO, A SINGLE-FAMILY TOWNHOUSE, MFT, OR SORRY, MF TWO, A MULTI-FAMILY AND GC TWO, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND APPROX APPROXIMATELY 51.426 ACRES IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCEL R 0 2 1 7 11, AND GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF KAUFFMAN LOOP AND RONALD W. REAGAN BOULEVARD, LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

MICHAEL JANOWSKI PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

SO THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.

UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED THIS REQUEST IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH THE ZONING DISTRICT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY ANNEXATION, UH, TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE APPROVED BAR W WEST CONCEPT PLAN REVISION THREE AND THE APPROVED BAR W RANCH WEST, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

UM, SO ANOTHER SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FOR THIS PROJECT.

UH, THIS EX, UH, THE EXISTING BAR W WEST DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AKA THE WEDEMEYER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2008.

UH, THIS AGREEMENT ALLOWS THE PROPERTY TO REMAIN OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS UNTIL THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, DEVELOPER PROPOSES, UH, COMMERCIAL OR MULTI-FAMILY USES, UH, ONCE THEY ARE READY TO DEVELOP, UH, ANNEXATION OF THIS PROPERTY IS REQUIRED.

UH, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT INCLUDES THE APPROVAL OF THE, THE APPROVE APPROVAL OF THE CONCEPT PLAN AND ESTABLISHES THE LAND USES, UH, FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

THIS DEVELOPER

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IS VESTED TO THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP THE MULTI-FAMILY AND THE COMMERCIAL PIECES.

UH, IN THIS CASE, THE RECENT CITY COUNCIL WATER RESOLUTION IS NOT APPLICABLE, UH, TO THIS PROJECT.

UH, AS THE LAND USES HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND THE REQUESTING IS, UH, ESTABLISHING THE ZONING, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ZONING REQUEST.

HOWEVER, WE RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS ON KAUFMAN LOOP.

UH, STAFF ENGAGED AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO EVALUATE THE ROAD AND DETERMINE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND THE IMPACTS OF THE DRIVEWAYS.

UH, WE WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER AND HAVE ASKED, UH, FOR AN ANALYSIS OF THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY AND SPACING.

UH, THIS INFORMATION WILL BE PART OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

UH, STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT THE DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS ARE REMOVED FROM THE PUD WHILE WE WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THE T I A.

UH, THE T I WILL PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE DRIVEWAYS AND HELP STAFF MAKE AN APPROPRIATE, UH, DECISION.

UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED, I'LL GO TO THE AERIAL, UH, JUST SOUTH, UH, OF THE H E B SHOPPING CENTER ALONG RONALD REAGAN, UH, AND JUST SOUTH OF KAUFMAN LOOP.

UM, SOME HISTORY FOR THIS PROPERTY BACK IN 2008, THAT WAS WHEN THE ORIGINAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED.

THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN WAS APPROVED.

UH, THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS LATER RECORDED IN 20 15 20 16, A REVISION TO THE CONCEPT PLAN 2017 SECOND REVISION TO THE CONCEPT PLAN, UH, IN 2022, A THIRD REVISION TO THE CONCEPT PLAN.

UM, SO THIS PROPERTY HAS ACCESS TO RONALD REAGAN AND KAUFMAN LOOP IN A CORRECTION TO THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

UM, BOTH ARE LISTED AS ARTERIAL ROADS, UM, WHICH IS WHY THE, UH, THE CONCERN WITH THE DRIVEWAY SPACING.

UM, IT DOES HAVE ACCESS TO EXISTING WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITIES.

UM, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.

UH, SO WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER BACK IN APRIL OF 2022.

UH, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY, UH, SIGNIFICANT CHANGES SINCE THAT MEETING, AND THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY, UH, SIGNIFICANT ORDINANCE CHANGES THAT WOULD AFFECT THIS PROPERTY.

UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH WAS HELD BACK IN JUNE, UM, AND ANOTHER ONE BACK IN JULY.

UH, THEY HELD ZOOM CALLS AND, UH, IN-PERSON MEETINGS WITH, UH, THE, UH, UH, RANCHO SIENA COMMUNITY TO THE SOUTH AND THE, UM, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, UH, JUST TO THE EAST OF THEM.

UM, SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD BROUGHT UP WERE TRAFFIC, WATER CONSERVATION LIGHTING, ALONG WITH, UH, THE LOCATION OF THE TRAIL, UH, TO THE RANCHO SIENNA COMMUNITY.

UM, THE DEVELOPER HAS AGREED TO PUT IN A 10 FOOT NON-ST DISTURBANCE, UH, ZONE TO THE SOUTH, UH, WHICH WAS ADDED TO THE PUT.

UH, SO THIS PUT AIMS TO ESTABLISH THE ZONING DISTRICTS, UH, BASED ON THE LAND USES THAT WERE ALREADY APPROVED IN THE BAR W WEST, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

UM, THE MULTI-FAMILY AND SINGLE-FAMILY TOWNHOUSE USE COMPONENTS WILL ACT AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE HIGHER DENSITY COMMERCIAL AND THE RANCHOS SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH.

UM, THIS PUT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING HIGHER STANDARDS, THE 10 FOOT NON DISTURBANCE ZONE TO THE SOUTH.

UH, ALL BUILDINGS WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL AREA OF THE PUD WILL CONSIST OF A CENTRAL ARCHITECTURAL THEME AND PHASING THAT REQUIRES COMMERCIAL TO BE, UH, PART OF THE FIRST PHASE.

UH, SOME OF THE, UM, PROHIBITED USES INCLUDE ANIMAL BOARDING, BAR NIGHTCLUB EQUIPMENT, SALES FARMS, OR TRUCKS OR GARDENS, FUNERAL HOME MANUFACTURED HOME SALES, UH, OFFICE WAREHOUSE, UM, NEWER USED VEHICLE SALES.

UH, AND THE WAIVERS THEY'RE REQUESTING ARE, UH, THE OPTION TO BE ABLE TO PAY A FEE IN LIEU, UH, OF A SIDEWALK ALONG RONALD REAGAN, A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 60 FOOT, AND FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, UM, THE ADD THREE DRIVEWAYS AND REDUCE THE SPACING ON THE ARTERIALS AND ALLOW MULTI-FAMILY WITHOUT STRUCTURED PARKING AND GARAGE PARKING REQUIREMENT.

LIMITED TO ONLY 68% OF THE MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

UM, AND THERE ARE, THERE IS A APPLICANT PRESENTATION, UM, BUT I'LL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, WE HAVE PAT S BAR SHOP AND OS WHO IS THE MASTER DEVELOPER OF THE CENTER AND ALSO DID THE HEB TO THE NORTH.

THANK YOU MR. CHENOWSKI.

UH, NOW WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION ORDER.

YEAH, YOU CAN USE THIS TO GREAT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

UM, THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE TO DISCUSS THIS PUD.

MY NAME'S ANDY LYNN SEON.

I'M WORK WITH ARM BRUCE AND BROWN.

UM, WE'RE LAND USE ATTORNEYS.

UM, AS MICHAEL MENTIONED, WE ARE, WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS A CREATION OF A POD, UM, AS A NEXT STEP AS PART OF THE BAR W RANCH DEVELOPMENT.

UM, I HAVE A LARGE TEAM OF PEOPLE IN THE BACK THAT CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS.

WE WERE ALL GONNA FILL OUT CARS AND EVERYBODY SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES, BUT WE CONVINCE 'EM THAT WAS A BAD IDEA, UM, THAT THEY CAN BE CALLED ON.

UM, BUT HERE WE DO HAVE BARCLAY WHITMEYER, WHO'S A PROPERTY OWNER, UH, THE 51 ACRES, UM, AND ALSO THE ORIGINAL LANDOWNER FOR THE BAR W WEST.

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UH, WE HAVE JIMMY MCCLUSKEY WITH EMRE, WHO IS, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER AND BOBACK WITH BO.

THAT'S HOW HE ASKED ME TO REFER TO HIM.

UM, WHO'S OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT TO TALK ABOUT DRIVEWAYS AND JEFF GUERRERO WITH CARSON BERGENSON.

DO IF YOU HAVE CIVIL ENGINEERING QUESTIONS.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, THIS SITE IS PART OF THE BAR RANCH WEST, WHICH WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2008.

THE USES IN THAT CONCEPT PLAN WERE ESTABLISHED AT THAT TIME BY COUNCIL.

UH, WE'RE NOT ASKING TO CREATE NEW RESIDENTIAL, NEW MULTI-FAMILY WAS NOT ALREADY ENVISIONED.

UM, THE OWNERS WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP A MIXED USE PROJECT ASSISTED COMMERCIAL, MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL, UM, AND A COMMERCIAL.

LET'S SEE.

THERE WE GO.

I'M ACTUALLY GONNA SKIP AFTER THE LAST PRESENTATION.

I WANNA SKIP, SKIP OUTTA MY ORDER, UM, JUST BECAUSE Y'ALL RAISED SOME REALLY IMPORTANT POINTS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WITH THIS THING.

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS PART OF THE BARD W RANCH.

THAT'S AN 800 ACRE OR ALMOST 900 ACRES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2008.

WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE CURRENT CONCEPT PLAN.

UM, THE THIRD REVISION THAT WAS APPROVED IN APRIL OF 22.

WE ARE SPECIFICALLY SEE IF THIS WORKS.

WE'RE HERE AND YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE THE MIXED RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

UM, THE OTHER PIECE OF THE MIXED IS HERE.

THE COMMERCIAL ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF RONALD REAGAN IS PART OF THE SAME DEVELOPMENT.

THE, AND AGAIN, THESE WERE ENVISIONED BACK IN 2008.

IT'S NOT NEW.

THE OVERALL VILLAGE CLUSTER IS WHAT THIS IS CALLED, IS 6% OF THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT YOU SEE UP THERE.

UM, WE ARE DOING 35 ACRES OF VILLAGE CLUSTER THERE AT THE CORNER.

UM, THE REMAINING WILL BE DOWN ON 2 67 TO THE WEST.

THE, I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

I KILLED IT.

UH, OH, THERE WE GO.

COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

SO IN THE, Y'ALL HAD ASKED ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION SPECIFICALLY ON THE LAST PODD THAT WAS HERE.

UM, WE'VE DONE EXTENSIVE OUTREACH.

UH, WE HAD A ZOOM CALL WITH THE FIVE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST.

UM, IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR.

THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS OR OUTCOMES WE WERE ASKED TO ADDRESS AT THAT TIME.

ON JULY 6TH, WE HAD ANOTHER ZOOM CALL WITH A RE RANCHO SIENNA RESIDENCE.

UM, WE PUT A NOTIFICATION FOR THAT ZOOM MEETING IN THEIR NEWSLETTER, UM, AND GOT THE INFORMATION OUT COORDINATED THE HOA MANAGER.

IT STILL WAS NOT EXTREMELY WELL ATTENDED.

UH, SO WE WENT BACK AND DID A, A MAIL OUT FOR AN IN-PERSON MEETING AT THE HOLIDAY INN TO OVER 900 RESIDENTS.

THIS RESULTED IN ABOUT 20 RESIDENTS ATTENDING OUR IN-PERSON MEETING, UM, ON AUGUST 2ND.

THEY DID HAVE A FEW CONCERNS, UM, THAT THEY ASKED US TO LOOK AT.

ONE OF 'EM WAS TO CREATE A, A, A NON DISTURBANCE BUFFER ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY AS PART OF OUR TRAIL ALIGNMENT.

UM, WE'VE DONE THAT, INCORPORATED IT INTO THE POD.

UH, ONCE THE COMMISSION MEETING, THIS MEETING WAS SET UP WITH CITY STAFF.

WE FOLLOWED UP WITH THE FIVE NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST AND THE 20 RANCHO C RESIDENCE THAT ATTENDED THE MEETING WITH THE EMAIL, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THIS WILL BE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING DATE.

UM, AND WE'VE NOT HEARD ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK AT THIS TIME, AND I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY'S HERE TO SPEAK, UM, TODAY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GO THROUGH THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN LAST TIME.

I'LL GO BACK TO MY, WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING.

UM, WE, WE HAVE, I WANT US, ROBIN AND MICHAEL HAVE BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH.

UM, WE'VE WORKED VERY COLLABORATIVE, DONE A GREAT JOB.

UH, WE AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

THE ONLY THING THAT WE DISAGREE ON ARE DRIVEWAYS.

UM, AND WE ARE ASKING TO BE ALLOWED TO ALIGN OUR DRIVEWAYS WITH H E B, AND WE WOULD ALIGN THEM ALL WITH H E B IF WE COULD.

BUT IN ABOUT WHERE THE CURSOR IS, THERE'S A CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURE THAT PROHIBITS US FROM ALIGNING THAT THIRD DRIVEWAY DIRECTLY.

UM, AS STAFF HAS MENTIONED, THEY'RE SEEKING TO CHANGE CLASSIFICATION TO AN ARTERIAL STREET, WHICH WHEN YOU DO THAT, THE, THE SPEED WOULD GO UP AND THE DRIVEWAY SPACING THE HEB WAS GRANTED WOULD NOT BE, YOU WOULDN'T GET THAT UNDER THE ARTERIAL CLASSIFICATION.

THOSE DRIVEWAYS ARE ALREADY THERE.

UM, WE ARE PROPOSING WE WOULD LINE UP WITH 'EM AS BEST WE CAN.

UH, WE DO HAVE A, UH, AN EASTERNMOST DRIVEWAY THAT IS A FIRE ACCESS ONLY AS WELL.

BUT, SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE DON'T AGREE WITH STAFF IS WE WOULD ASK Y'ALL TO CONSIDER THE DRIVEWAYS MAINLY BECAUSE THAT ALLOWS,

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UM, THE DEVELOPER TO REALLY START SECURING COMMITMENTS TO BE PART OF THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND MOVING FORWARD, UH, WITHOUT ACCESS AND GUARANTEEING KNOWING WHERE THAT ACCESS IS, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR A RESTAURANT OR COMMERCIAL USER, HOW AM I GONNA GET TO MY SITE? THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THEY WANT TO KNOW BEFORE THEY'RE GONNA MAKE A COMMITMENT.

SO THAT'S OUR ASK OF THAT.

BRIEFLY ON THE, THE ACTUAL ZONING REQUEST.

OUR CURRENT ZONING IS EJ.

WE'RE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.

UM, UNDER THE BAR W AGREEMENT, WHEN WE, YOUR FIRST STEP IN DEVELOPMENT IS WE HAVE TO ZONE AND THEN ANNEX INTO THE CITY.

UM, AND THOSE ARE THE REQUESTS.

THE ZONING WILL GO TO COUNCIL, BUT THE POD IS HERE.

WE'RE ASKING TO CREATE A POD.

UM, TO HAVE MULTI-FAMILY, YOU NEED A POD THAT'S PART OF THE CODE.

UM, AND SO WE ARE HERE ASKING FOR A RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL.

UM, THE COMMERCIAL PART IS 16 ACRES, ROUGHLY, AND IS UP AT THE, THE CORNER.

THE 35 ACRES OF THE MIXED RESIDENTIAL IS MORE APPROPRIATELY PLACED ADJACENT TO OUR CURRENT RESIDENTIAL USES ON OUR SOUTH AND EASTERN BOUNDARY.

UM, THE PU WILL PROVIDE A HIGHER STANDARD, UH, I THINK MICHAEL MENTIONED A FEW THINGS WE'RE DOING.

UH, IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO HAVE A COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE COMMERCIAL AND THE MIXED RESIDENTIAL TOGETHER, UM, AND CREATE A, A MORE COHESIVE PROJECT.

WE DO HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN.

IT IS VERY MUCH A CONCEPT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE ARE NO COMMITMENTS AT THIS TIME IN PLACE THAT, BUT THIS IS THE CONCEPT THAT WE HAVE SHARED WITH THE NEIGHBORS, UM, AND SHARED PUBLICLY.

AND YOU CAN IDENTIFY OUR DRIVEWAYS WHERE WE'VE LINED UP DIRECTLY WITH THE ONE FOR HEB HERE.

WE'RE LINING UP HERE.

THIS ONE'S REALLY, THAT'S FOR THE, UH, CURBSIDE.

AND THEN WE WE'RE PROPOSING HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A CRITICAL FEATURE RIGHT THERE.

AND THE, THE EASTERNMOST DRIVEWAY IS FOR THE EMERGENCY ACCESS.

AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT.

THE BAR W RANCH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD ALLOW UP TO 15 U UNITS PER ACRE OF RESIDENTIAL IN THIS LOCATION.

WE ARE NOT, THAT WOULD BE 538 UNITS.

WE ARE PROPOSING 462.

UM, WE'VE AGREED WITH STAFF THAT AT LEAST 25% OF THE MIXED RESIDENTIAL WILL BE, UM, TOWN HOMES.

AND THE USES ON THE COMMERCIAL CURRENTLY ARE PLANNED AS RETAIL, RESTAURANT, OFFICE AND POTENTIALLY A HOTEL.

UH, WE'VE ALSO AGREE WITH STAFF THAT THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS TO HAPPEN IS 10,000 FEET OF COMMERCIAL.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN.

UM, I THINK MR. OS IS EXCITED TO GET THE COMMERCIAL GOING AS SOON AS HE CAN.

UM, THIS IS AN EXHIBIT.

IT PROBABLY WILL CHANGE, UM, AT LEAST ON SOME LEVEL, THE MIX OF MIX OF THINGS YOU SEE.

C THAT'S OUR REQUEST, UM, GOING THE WRONG WAY.

THIS SHOWS THE, THE TRAIL, UM, REASON I HAVE THIS UP HERE IS THE REAL DARK LINE YOU SEE IS THE TRAIL THAT WE'VE AGREED TO PLACE TO ALLOW PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE NORTH TO GET TO HEB.

AND THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT, THE, THE AREA'S HATCHED TO WHERE WE'VE ASKED FOR THE HEIGHT.

UM, AND THESE ALSO SHOW THE DISTANCE ON THE DRIVEWAY SPACING, THE, THE QUESTION OF SPEED ON DRIVEWAYS.

UM, ONCE YOU ALREADY HAVE H E B IN PLACE WITH THE DRIVEWAYS AS THEY ARE, EVEN IF YOU CHANGE THE CLASSIFICATION, OUR, OUR OPINION, I GUESS WE GET THOSE, IS THAT THE, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND THE PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENTS WOULDN'T REALLY SUPPORT RAISING THE SPEED LIMIT.

SURE, MAKE IT FOUR LANES, UM, AND THOSE THINGS.

BUT WHY WOULD WE WANT RAISE THE SPEED LIMIT IN, IN PE PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT? AGAIN, THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED THOROUGHLY IN A T I A, WHICH WE HAVE SUBMITTED.

UH, WE ANTICIPATE THAT WILL TAKE SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR TO GET COMPLETED.

UM, AND THE REQUEST ON THE DRIVEWAYS IS ABOUT CERTAINTY FOR NEGOTIATING WITH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS.

OUR COMMUNITY BENEFITS, UM, AS WE MENTIONED, WE'RE BUILDING A HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL TO PROVIDE THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS FROM THE SOUTH.

UM, WE'VE DOING A 50 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK ALONG THE EASTERN AND SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINES.

UH, 10 FOOT NON DISTURBANCE ON THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE.

UH, I THINK MICHAEL MENTIONED A COMPREHENSIVE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT FOR CONSISTENCY, UM, AND ENHANCED LANDSCAPING DESIGN.

WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY ACCESS TO COUNTY ROAD 2 68, AND WE HAVE AGREED TO THE LIMITED THE LIST OF PROHIBITED USES AS PROPOSED BY STAFF.

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I'M SORRY TO HAVE JUMPED AROUND OUTTA ORDER ON YOU, BUT HOPEFULLY IT MADE SENSE WHY I DID THAT.

UM, AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE A WHOLE TEAM OF PEOPLE, VARIOUS EXPERTS WHO CAN SPEAK TO IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

UM, BUT APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU SIR.

UH, NOW I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM.

IF YOU WOULD COME UP, SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, AND ONCE YOU'RE DONE, PLEASE JUST FILL OUT ANOTHER CARD FOR US AND, AND TURN IT IN.

I WASN'T AN ANTICIPATING TO, UH, SPEAK.

CAN WE JUST SAY NO TO MULTI-FAMILY? AGAIN, WE'RE FACING TOWN HOMES THAT AREN'T MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS AND GUIDELINES THAT, UM, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO, UM, FIGURE OUT.

UM, ALSO, I JUST FEEL LIKE THESE DEVELOPERS ARE TEASING US.

WE'LL GIVE YOU COMMERCIAL IF YOU ALLOW US THESE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS WHAT LEANDER N NEEDS IS MORE MULTI-FAMILY.

UM, LET'S FOCUS ON THE COMMMERCIAL AND THEN FEEL THE VIBE OF THE COMMUNITY WHEN THAT'S SET IN PLACE AND WHAT, WHAT RETAIL, UM, WHAT COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE IS COMING IN HERE TO BETTER OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT WILL BE HAPPENING, UM, WITH THAT COMMERCIAL INSTEAD OF JUST PUTTING UP A MISHMASH OF STUFF.

LIKE LET'S GET A REALLY NICE PLAN FOR IT BEFORE WE AGREE TO ANYTHING.

THANK YOU MS. FARLEY.

UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER COSGROVE.

THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.

MR. CHENOWSKI, CAN, CAN YOU TAKE ME THROUGH, UM, STAFF OBJECTIONS MORE, MORE CLEARLY ABOUT WHERE THE DRIVEWAY CUTS ARE AND, AND WHAT, WHAT THE CONCERN IS? WE DO HAVE OUR NEW CITY ENGINEER HERE, EMILY TRUMAN, THAT WOULD PROBABLY DO A WAY BETTER JOB TALKING ABOUT DRIVEWAYS.

WELL, TRUMAN, COME ON.

UNLESS MICHAEL, UNLESS YOU WANNA DO IT.

DON'T HAVE MICHAEL, I HAD YOU.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

UH, EMILY TRUMAN, CITY ENGINEER.

UM, I THINK OUR BIGGEST OBJECTION IS JUST THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE TIA TO, TO GIVE US THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ACCEPT THE DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS AS THEY ARE.

IT'S A LITTLE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE PUT, EXCLUDE THAT, AND THEN WE ALLOW, BECAUSE I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE TIA YET.

UM, MY ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER HAD REQUESTED THE TIA EARLIER THIS WEEK.

UM, SO, BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO LOOK AT FOR THE ACTUAL INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO, TO MAKE THE DRIVEWAY DETERMINATION.

AND, AND, AND WHAT WOULD BE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION TO EXPECT THAT TIA BECAUSE OF THE FACT, UM, HE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

THEY, THEY NEED TO KNOW WHEN THEY GO TO SELL THIS, WHERE, WHERE THE CUTS ARE GONNA BE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

, SO, SO, UM, IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT FOR A YEAR MM-HMM.

, UM, THIS PROJECT IS PRETTY MUCH SITTING FOR AT LEAST A YEAR.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, WE NEED THAT INFORMATION IN ORDER TO DETERMINE, I MEAN, THAT INFORMATION WOULD PROVIDE MORE, UH, TRAFFIC CIRCULATION AND, AND, UH, MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL OVERALL PLUG IN TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW OF MANY PODS WHERE YOU, YOU KNOW, CERTIF, YOU KNOW, SOLIDIFIED DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS AND AT THE PUD STAGE, I MEAN, USUALLY YOU DO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT, POSSIBLY , POSSIBLY.

I APPRECIATE IT.

UM, THAT'S ALL FOR ME.

UH, GEORGETOWN? THAT, THAT'S LEANER WATER? WE'RE, YEAH, THIS IS IN LEANDER SYSTEM.

COMMISSIONER, MAY I WISH THERE WAS MORE OF A COMMERCIAL ELEMENT TO THIS VERSUS A, AGAIN, IT, UH, AND I DON'T HAVE THE SCIENCE NUMBERS BROKEN OUT HERE, BUT IT APPEARS ABOUT ONE THIRD COMMERCIAL AND ABOUT TWO THIRDS MULTI-FAMILY AND TOWN HOMES, WHICH, UM, TO, UH, THE ISSUE ABOUT THE ORDINANCE, UM, DOESN'T, DON'T THEY GET THE WATER FROM,

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AND WHEN ARE THEY, UM, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY GONNA BE B BUILT BEFORE 2027 THEN? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO WE, WE'VE GOT THE ISSUE WITH THE WATER AND AS WELL AS WITH THE, OR WHY WOULD THE ORDINANCE NOT APPLY HERE WHEN IT DOES APPLY TO THE PREVIOUS CASE? THEY HAVE VESTED RIGHTS.

THEY HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE IN, UM, 2008 THEN I THINK IT WAS REINSTATED IN 2015.

AND THAT AGREEMENT LOCKED IN THE LAND USES FOR THE PROPERTY, UM, IS THE TYPE OF AGREEMENT WE DON'T DO ANY LONGER, BUT IT'S ONE WE'RE STUCK WITH RIGHT NOW.

I THAT'S GOOD THAT THAT'S ON THE RECORD, RIGHT? THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE EXCEPTION.

UM, LIKE I SAID, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE COMMERCIAL VERSUS THE DENSITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL END THERE, BUT IF WE'RE, NOW, ANOTHER THING ABOUT THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS IT LOCKS IN A LOT OF COMMERCIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF RONALD REAGAN.

UM, SO THEY, THEY HAVE SOME MULTI-FAMILY ON BOTH PIECES, BUT IT DOES LOCK IN COMMERCIAL.

BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE, DO THEY, DO WE HAVE, UM, FOR THEIR ENTIRE AREA THERE, THE, THE COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL PIECE? I DON'T HAVE THE PERCENTAGE, BUT I SAW A SLIDE POP UP THAT SHOWED THE WHOLE CONCEPT PLAN.

WAS THAT YOUR SLIDE MAYBE? YES, MA'AM.

THAT WAS OUR SLIDE.

JUST WANTED TO SEE IF I CAN GET, IF THIS IS OUR SLIDE DECK OR NOT.

YEAH, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT ONE, THE, THE PURPLE, BUT IT'S THE, THE, THE PURPLE ARE THE COMMERCIAL AREAS YEAH.

WITHIN THIS AGREEMENT.

UM, AND THEY'RE ALL ALONG RONALD REAGAN.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR COMMERCIAL OVER HERE.

UM, AND THIS WAS THE FIRST PIECE, THE, THE BAR W MARKET.

AND THIS IS THE CONTINUATION WITH THE INTENT BEING THAT THEY MOVE ACROSS RONALD REAGAN, UM, WITH THE COMMERCIAL WORK.

AND IF I CAN ADD REAL QUICK THOUGH, THE BAR W AGREEMENT ACTUALLY SET OUT LIVING UN, THE L UES, UM, AND THEY'VE PURCHASED THEM.

SO THEY'RE ARE, THEY'RE RESERVED IN THE, IN THE AGREEMENT, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON THE WATER.

SO THEY WEREN'T ACTUALLY, WE DON'T PURCHASE THEES, IT WAS JUST PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THEY WERE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.

SO IT'S SOMETHING, UM, WHEN THE AGREEMENT WAS, UH, COMPLETED IN 2008, UM, WE DIDN'T KNOW IN 2023 WE'D HAVE A WATER PROBLEM.

E E EXACTLY.

I, BUT I WANTED, UH, THAT TO BE EXPLAINED.

UH, WE, WE GET BLAMED ENOUGH FOR APPROVING ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THIS CITY.

, THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

COMMISSIONER MOSS, UM, DID I HEAR YOU SAY, UH, 15 UNITS PER ACRE, UH, WOULD BE ON FOR THE TOWN HOMES? YEP, THAT'S, YES MA'AM.

THAT'S THE ENTITLEMENT IN THE, IN THE AGREEMENT.

UM, THEY ARE NOT DOING THAT.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW OUR EXACT DENSITY NUMBER, UM, BUT I CAN GO BACK, GET MY SHEET REAL QUICK, BUT THEY WERE ALLOWED.

BUT 538 AND WE'RE CLOSER TO 4 62 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S STILL A UNLOCK IT.

IT IT IS, BUT IT'S NOT 15.

SO, UH, SEE, I'M A VISUAL PERSON, SO IF I CAN SEE A PICTURE OF THIS LAND WITH ALL THESE UNITS ON IT, I CAN LIKE REALLY, UH, BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN'T SEE THAT LITTLE BIT.

I THINK SHE, SHE HAS A SLIDE.

I CAN GO BACK TO THE CONCEPT PLAN.

LET'S SEE, LET'S, THAT'S THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT SHOWS THE, THE, THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE HERE.

UM, A LARGE, YOU KNOW, DETENTION, WATER QUALITY TREATMENT AREA, UM, AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL IN, IN THE MIDDLE.

UM, OKAY, SO ON THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, HOW MANY ALTOGETHER WILL THAT BE ON THAT LAND? LET'S SEE, THE MAXIMUM WE'VE AGREED TO LIMIT WITHIN OUR POD IS 462 UNITS.

AND THEN YOU SAID YOU'RE GONNA, I GUESS, START OUT WITH 10,000 FEET OF COMMERCIAL? YES, MA'AM.

THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT IS TO DO THAT FIRST.

UM, MR. OS COULD BETTER SPEAK TO WHAT HIS ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS, UM, BUT THE COMMERCIAL WILL GO FIRST, UM, FOR SURE.

THE RESIDENTIAL OR OPEN A COMMERCIAL.

WHEN YOU SAY IT WILL GO FIRST, THAT MEAN IT'LL BE COMPLETED UP AND RUNNING, BRING IT IN REVENUE FIRST? I, I, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE ON THE TIMING OF HOW THINGS CAN GET PERMITTED, MUCH LIKE THE LAST GENTLEMAN, BUT I KNOW THEY HAVE TO OPEN THE RETAIL BEFORE THEY CAN OPEN THE,

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THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER OLIVER.

SO I, I, I JUST HAVE A CONCERN WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR WATER SUPPLY AND MY OTHER CONCERN IS AGAIN, UH, COMMERCIAL REVENUE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT.

YEAH, SO, UH, I APPRECIATE THE CONCEPT PLAN, DEFINITELY DURING, DURING THIS PHASE.

UM, COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

I HAVE ACTUALLY HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, ACREAGE, SO THIS IS A 51 ACRE TRACT LAND, AND THEN WE'RE, IT'S SUB-DIVIDED COMMERCIAL, AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR, UH, YOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE.

SO, UH, HOW, HOW MUCH OF THAT RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE IS ACTUALLY, HOW MUCH ACREAGE IS THERE OUT OF THE 51 ACRES? 35 5.

YEAH, IT'S NOT A HUGE TRACK OF LAND.

AND THEN OF THOSE, UH, IS THIS ALL, IS THIS ALL FOR SALE OR ARE THESE, UH, SO LIKE YOU'VE GOT TOWN HOMES, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE GONNA BE PUTTING THOSE UP, BUILDING 'EM, SELLING THOSE AND THEN I, I'M GONNA ASK, I WILL LET THE DEVELOPER SPEAK TO THAT.

I'M NOT SURE, BUT I BELIEVE, I DON'T KNOW.

PAT, YOU WANT SPEAK? UM, I'M, UH, PAT OS WITH BARHOP AND OS AND, UH, AS ANDY SAID, WE, UH, THE, UH, DEVELOPERS OF THE ENTIRE SITE, THIS IS MY PARTNER JIMMY MCCLOSKEY WITH, UH, EMERY FROM, UH, SAN ANTONIO.

THE, ON COUPLE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS HERE ON THE ISSUE.

THE, THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE ALLOCATED TO, UH, RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL.

IF YOU, ON THIS PLANE RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE ENTIRE 51 ACRE SITE.

THE, THE GREEN SPACE AND THE DRAINAGE AREA DETENTION AREA IS ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES.

THE, UM, THE PORTION FOR THE RESIDENTIAL IS ABOUT 26 ACRES, AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL AREA IS ABOUT 16 ACRES.

NOW, A LOT OF THAT, UH, IN TERMS OF SQUARE, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ACREAGE IN TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT YET.

UM, AS ANDY MENTIONED, WE ARE, I THINK THAT CONCEPT PLAN IS ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY, FOUR FORTY, UH, RESIDENTIAL.

AND OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE ON OUR COMMERCIAL REALLY DEPENDS ON THE, UH, ON HOW IT DEVELOPS OUT.

THAT'S MOSTLY SINGLE STORY RETAIL.

ALONG THE, UH, ALONG KAUFMAN AND ALONG REAGAN, WE ARE ASKING FOR A 60 FOOT, UM, THE ALLOWANCE TO GO TO 60 FEET ON A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, UH, SORT OF THAT INTERIOR PAD, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO DO A FOUR OR FIVE STORY HOTEL.

UH, WHICH WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL WE CAN GET THAT DONE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW.

UM, AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE WOULD NEED, UH, ROUGHLY 60 FEET.

SO THAT'S ABOUT, THAT'S ABOUT THE, THE SPLIT.

UM, IN TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE OF, UH, OF COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE, UM, IT COULD EASILY BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND FEET, MAYBE MORE, DEPENDING UPON WHAT HAPPENS ON THE INTERIOR LOT.

UH, JUST, JUST JUST STICK TO THE RESIDENTIAL.

CAUSE I THINK THE BIGGER CONCERN HERE, ONCE AGAIN, IS WATER.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT PLANS IN PLACE TO TRY TO MITIGATE THAT, BUT AT THE POINT IN TIME, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ORDINANCES WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.

AND I KNOW THIS WAS CUT BACK IN 2008, SO I DO RESPECT THAT AS WELL.

UM, AND SO LOOKING AT THE, THE MIX USE, YOU SAID ABOUT 26 ACRES, ACRES IS GONNA BE ROUGHLY DEVELOPED RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

, THAT'S CORRECT.

WITH 462 UNITS, AND THAT'S ABOUT 17.7 UNITS.

SO LET'S JUST, WE'LL CALL IT 18 UNITS, ALMOST GIVE OR TAKE PER, PER ACRE AT THAT POINT.

WITH EIGHT ACRES SET ASIDE FOR IT'S 30, IT'S ABOUT 35 ACRES.

IT'S 35, RIGHT.

BUT IT'S, BUT THERE'S 26 ACTUALLY DEVELOPED AS RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN EIGHT ARE SET ASIDE FOR WATER RETENTION OR WATER, UH, THE POND YOU HAVE OVER THERE.

YEAH, I MEAN, THE POND IS A LITTLE, IT'S KIND OF EXTREME IN SIZE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE QUITE THAT BIG, BUT THE INTENT WAS OKAY, DO THAT.

UNDERSTOOD.

I MEAN, EITHER WAY THE DENSITY IS, IS EITHER GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, AROUND 14 TO, TO 17 UNITS PER ACRE.

SO IT'S, IT'S PRETTY MUCH RIGHT WITHIN THAT CUSP OF WHERE WE ARE.

, UM, GOING BACK TO THE MIX, THE, THE MULTI-FAMILY, UM, I SEE, I SEE HOW YOUR PLAN HAS IT ALL MIXED IN.

SO IT'S, IT'S NICE YOU'RE CONSIDERING THAT.

ARE THESE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS FOR SALE OR ARE THEY GONNA BE RENTAL LIKE APARTMENTS? SURE.

CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THAT? YEAH.

UM, I DON'T WANNA MESS THIS THING UP.

WHERE'S THE MAGIC POINTER THAT DOES THE PUSH, THE PUSH THE BUTTON, THE MIDDLE DOWN? THIS ONE.

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AH, THERE, IT, IT IS.

I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS DUDE.

IT'S PRETTY COOL.

UM, SO WE'VE GOT A MIX OF PRODUCT HERE.

IT'S ALL RENTAL, SO IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT RENTAL.

UM, AND THESE ARE FOUR RENT TOWN HOMES.

UH, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE GARAGE ACCESS.

THEY'RE TWO STORIES.

UM, WE'RE MEETING THE, THE INTENT OF THE, THE PU UH, WHEN IT COMES TO DESIGN AND MATERIALS.

UM, AND THEN THESE BUILDINGS RIGHT HERE ARE PROPOSED TO BE THREE STORIES.

SO WHAT WE, WHAT WE DID, AND WITH WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL, IS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE, THESE TWO STORIES WERE ALIGNING THE STREETS THAT WERE VISIBLE FROM TRAFFIC.

AND THEN AS WE GOT BACK HERE FURTHER INTO THE PROPERTY, WE STARTED TO SET THE BUILDINGS BACK EVEN FURTHER.

WE HAVE A BUFFER ZONE, AND THEN THESE BUILDINGS RIGHT HERE ARE ALL THREE STORY.

UH, SOME OF 'EM HAVE LIKE TWO STORY ENDS, AND THEN THESE, THESE BUILDINGS RIGHT HERE THAT ARE ALL YELLOW, THEY'RE, THOSE ARE TWO STORY BUILDINGS.

SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS TRY AND WEDDING CAKE UP THE DENSITY FROM THE EXTERIOR, FROM THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, AND, AND THAT WAS, UH, THAT'S A DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPE.

SO THERE'S TWO MM-HMM.

, UH, STORY BUILDINGS AND THREE STORY BUILDINGS.

GOT IT.

AND THEN THIS IS, THIS WILL BE GATED, I ASSUME THEN? YES, SIR.

AT THAT POINT? YES SIR.

YEAH, IT'S GATED.

UM, CRAZY QUESTION, ROBERT, IS THIS IS GIVEN IT CITY OF LEANDER, IT'S CURRENTLY AN E T J AND IT'S GONNA BE ANNEX.

IS IT GONNA ALSO APPLY TO, UM, L I S D? WILL THIS BE, I THINK IT'S LIBERTY HILL OR THERE, OR IS IT LIBERTY HILL? YEAH, WE, YES.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S LIBERTY HILL SCHOOL DISTRICT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? SCHOOL? YEAH.

I'M JUST CURIOUS IF IT'S SCHOOL DISTRICT, THERE'S A WEIRD LINE.

I KNOW BARDO VIEW ON THE OTHER SIDE, SIDE AROUND BLUFF VIEW.

BLUFF VIEW IS KIND OF THE CUTOFF OF THE SAN GABRIEL.

I IT ALL KIND OF TRIANGULATES RIGHT.

ABOUT THAT AREA.

UM, AS FAR AS A DRIVEWAYS ARE CONCERNED, YOU'RE LINING THOSE UP.

UM, I MEAN, YOU, THE INTENTS OF LINE THOSE UP, I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE, I MEAN, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, SO I'D SORT OF LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN MORE, BUT I, I, TO ME IT MAKES SENSE TO LINE THOSE DRIVEWAYS UP WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, SO THERE'S COHESIVENESS TO GET ACROSS THERE.

UM, I LIKE FOR THE RECORD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE COMMERCIAL.

I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO SEE THIS BE A LESS DENSE AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SEE MORE TOWN HOMES VERSUS SMALLER APARTMENT MULTI-FAMILY.

, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD REDUCE THAT, YOU KNOW, NINE, 10 UNITS PER, I MEAN, JUST THE, THE ISSUE WE HAVE ARE CONNECTIONS, RIGHT? THE ISSUE WE HAVE IS WATER.

UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER LANDSCAPING CONSIDERATIONS, YOU KNOW, WITH WHEN IT COMES OR, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL TYPES OF, LIKE MR. BAKER MENTIONED AS WELL EARLIER IN HIS PRESENTATION, WHICH WE JUST, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T APPROVE BECAUSE OF THE FACT.

UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE SOME OTHER CONSIDERATIONS HERE FOR WATER CONSERVATION.

SURE.

BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW, COMMISSIONER LANTRIP.

MY QUESTION IS FOR STAFF, UH, MR. CHAPSKI, I READ IN THE ANALYSIS THAT THE LAND USES WERE APPROVED FOR THE WEST SIDE OF REAGAN, BUT THEN THE APPLICANT WANTED TO MOVE THE MULTI-FAMILY OVER TO THE EAST SIDE ADJACENT, ADJACENT TO RANCHO SIENNA.

SO GIVEN THAT THEIR AGREEMENT APPROVED IT ON THE WEST SIDE, UM, SO HOW DOES THAT WORK SINCE THEY'RE CHANGING THAT AND MOVING IT TO THE EAST SIDE? SO I THINK THE, THEY ACTUALLY GOT THAT CHANGE WITH THE THIRD REVISION OF THE CONCEPT PLAN.

UM, BUT ESTABLISHING THE USES, UM, WOULD BE WITH THIS ZONING CASE.

SO, BUT THE, THEY ALREADY HAVE THE NUM THE AMOUNT OR THE ACREAGE OF MULTI-FAMILY AND TOWNHOUSE, UM, FOR THE ENTIRE, FOR THE PROJECT EAST AND WEST.

AND THEN THEY CAN MIX THAT AROUND AND RIGHT.

UM, ALL RIGHT, THAT WAS MY QUESTION FOR YOU, FOR THE APPLICANT.

WOULD, WOULD Y'ALL CONSIDER INCREASING THE COMMERCIAL ON THIS, UH, PIECE? WE SURE WOULD.

UM, HERE'S THE ISSUE ON THE COMMERCIAL.

THIS.

PLAN AND OUR ABILITY TO GET IN THE MARKET AND GET MORE RESTAURANTS AND MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND, UH, COMMISSIONER, YOU RAISED THE ISSUE ABOUT TIMING.

SO WE REALLY, AND, AND WE'VE HAD A GREAT, UM, WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH ROBIN AND HER STAFF AND THE CITY ENGINEER, WHERE EVERYTHING WE DO IS, UH, COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT AND ON THE ISSUE OF THE CURB CUTS, IN ORDER FOR US TO BE SUCCESSFUL ON THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WE NEED TO HAVE GOOD ACCESS, GOOD VISIBILITY, AND WE HAVE TO NEED TO HAVE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

UH, WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP THIS MIXED USE PROJECT, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR PROJECT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET WITH THE H E V PROJECT, WHICH BY THE WAY, IS PERFORMING VERY WELL.

AND, UM, WE'RE REALLY HAPPY WITH OUR PROGRESS THERE.

THIS IS A NATURAL EXTENSION OF THAT MM-HMM.

SO WE REALLY DO WANT MORE COMMERCIAL SPACE IN THESE DRI THE DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS ARE CRI CRITICAL TO OUR SITE

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AND IF WE HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR, WE'RE IN A VERY COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT AND THERE'S A LOT OF NEW ACTIVITY NORTH OF 29 IN GEORGETOWN.

UM, AND SO WE'RE COMPETING, WE'RE COMPETING WITH ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE PROJECTS.

I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE, THE DRIVEWAYS.

I'M NOT AN ENGINEER EITHER, NOR DO I PLAY ONE ON TV.

UH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM LINING UP WITH THE EXISTING DRIVEWAYS, ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY'RE NOT COMING OUT ONTO REAGAN.

I LIVE ON THE REAGAN QUARTER.

UM, I THINK I'M ONE OF THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT LIVES ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, THAT'S UP HERE, BUT OD AND WE HAVE ISSUES GETTING IN AND OUT ONTO REAGAN.

SO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ON, UM, THE, THE LOOP THERE OR ON COFFIN, AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 'EM LINING UP, I THINK IT MAKES MORE SENSE.

SO THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME.

MY ONLY ISSUE IS, AND IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY NICE PROJECT TO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT WE'RE RESTRICTED ON WHAT WE CAN APPROVE HERE BECAUSE A LOT OF IT WAS AL ALREADY AGREED UPON, BUT I JUST PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE COMMERCIAL ON THIS SITE THAN MULTIFAMILY.

I THINK, I THINK WE'RE GETTING VERY SATURATED WITH THAT IN, IN THAT AREA.

SO, WELL, AND JIMMY CAN SPEAK TO THIS, BUT HE IS LOOKING AT LOTS OF DIFFERENT, UM, SITE PLANS RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS VERY, VERY, VERY CONCEPTUAL.

UM, AND I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING ON A NEW PLAN THAT HAS MORE, UM, MORE TOWN HOMES AND LESS DENSITY.

SO, UH, WE HEAR YOU AND WE'RE FULLY AWARE THE, THE WATER ISSUE.

UM, AND IN TERMS OF THE COMMERCIAL MARKET, WE THINK IT'S THERE.

UH, AND AS I SAY, WE HAVE GREAT SUCCESS WITH THE HEB CENTER, SO WE WANT TO BUILD AS MUCH COMMERCIAL AS WE CAN.

SO THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FIRST.

UM, MICHAEL, WHAT DID, ARE THEY A REQUESTING ANY ALLOWANCES TO CURRENT CODES OR, OR CURRENT STANDARDS? OR ARE WE, ARE THEY PRETTY MUCH COMPLYING WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S WITHIN THE CURRENT REGULATIONS? UM, SO WE DO HAVE, UH, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT, UH, AS A WAIVER THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, UM, WHERE THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO 35 FEET.

UM, THE PARKING GARAGE, UH, REQUIREMENTS, UM, FOR TOWN HOMES WOULD BE, UH, A GARAGE PER TOWN HOME.

IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE REQUESTING, UH, TO PROVIDE GARAGES FOR 68% OF THE UNITS.

UM, SO THOSE WOULD BE, UH, A COUPLE OF THEM.

ANOTHER ONE IS THE OPTION TO PAY THE, THE FEE IN LIEU FOR, I THINK THE SIDEWALK ALONG REAGAN, UM, BUILD IT OR FI IN LIEU BASED ON A LATER, UH, APPLICATION PROCESS.

WHAT'S THE STAFF'S FEELINGS ABOUT THOSE REQUESTS? THE HEIGHT REQUEST IN THE GARAGE? THE GARAGE REQUEST IS THE ONE THAT I SAW.

I MEAN, SO WHEN, WHEN WE LOOKED AT, UM, THE HEIGHT REQUEST, IT WAS PULLED AWAY FROM THE ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY MM-HMM.

SO WHEN I WAS REVIEWING, I SAW THAT AS A, A MINOR REQUEST, CUZ YOU WON'T HAVE THAT CONDITION WHERE YOU HAVE LIKE A FOUR STORY BUILDING LOOKING INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD'S BACKYARD.

UM, AND THEN THE GARAGE, UM, WE WERE PUTTING THAT IN Y'ALL'S COURT TO DECIDE, UM, IT'S A ORDINANCE THAT WAS UPDATED UNDER A PREVIOUS COUNCIL.

SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW THE, BUT WE'VE BEEN PRETTY STIFF ON THAT.

ON OTHER PROJECTS WE HAVE, WE'VE BEEN VERY, YOU'RE GONNA DO YOUR ONE PER UNIT AND THAT'S IT.

YES.

UM, THE OTHER THING IS, THIS IS A BIG PROJECT.

I MEAN, YOU GUYS GOT A LOT OF LAND YOU'RE GONNA DEVELOP OUT THERE IN THE FUTURE AND YOU MOVED YOUR, UH, HIGH DENSITY HOUSING FROM THE WEST SIDE OF RONALD REAGAN TO THE EAST SIDE OF RONALD REAGAN.

DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE NEVER GONNA REQUEST HIGH DENSITY HOUSING ON THE WEST SIDE NOW? OR WHAT ARE WE DOWN, WHAT ARE WE GONNA GET DOWN THE ROAD? A SOLID SEA OF APARTMENTS OUT THERE? I THINK THEY STILL HAVE SOME MULTI-FAMILY OPTIONS ON THE WEST SIDE.

LIKE THEY STILL HAVE SOME ACRES LEFT.

DID WE, DID WE ACTUALLY SAY WHAT AREAS ON IN THIS BIGGER 800 ACRE PROJECT THAT THEY HAVE, WHAT CAN DEVELOP HERE AND THERE? BECAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THE, THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT, UM, THEY SHOWED EARLIER IT HAD THE RED AREA, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE OF, UH, KAUFMAN, YOU CAN SEE RED.

WOULD WE GIVE ANY ALLOWANCES FOR ANYTHING ELSE INTO THIS THING? WHY WOULDN'T WE MAKE THEM COMPLY WITH EVERY OTHER ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE? THAT Y'S DECISION, GONNA TELL YOU WHAT TO DO.

THOSE WOULD ALLOW FOR THE MULTIFAMILY.

AND THERE'S ONE MORE PIECE I THINK ON REAGAN RIGHT THERE.

IT'S LIKE, THEY CALL IT VILLAGE CLUSTER.

SO IT'S LIKE TOWN TOWNHOUSES BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL ONE OF THIS WAS IN 2008 AND THEN IT GOT UPDATED AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND IT'S LIKE, WE DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GONNA HAVE A WATER CRUNCH BACK IN 2008.

AND IF, IF, IF THIS CAME TO US TODAY, WE'D SAY NO ONE, IT'D BE A SLAM DUNK.

SORRY.

BUT WE CAN'T, SO THAT MAKES ME THINK WHY

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WELL THAT, MY, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE I, WE WOULD STICK TO EVERYTHING ELSE ON THIS AND, AND MOVE FORWARD.

I MEAN, I REALLY FEEL LIKE OUR HANDS BEING TIED ON A 15 YEAR OLD AGREEMENT WOW.

IS, IS CRAZY.

BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ABOUT THE DRIVEWAYS, JUST, UH, TO ADDRESS.

I HAVE ONE, I HAD A QUESTION ON THAT TOO.

UM, JUST IF YOU CAN, UM, SO STAFF WOULD MOST LIKELY SUPPORT THE ONES THAT LINE UP, UH, WITH H E B.

OUR CONCERN IS THE ONES THAT DON'T MM-HMM.

AND SO AS PART OF THEIR CONCEPT PLAN, THEY HAVE A THIRD DRIVEWAY TO THE EAST THAT DOESN'T LINE UP WITH ANY DRIVEWAY.

AND I KNOW THEY SAID THEY HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURE THERE.

UM, BUT THE, THAT PARTICULAR DRIVEWAY IS THE ONE THAT CONCERNS US THE MOST AS FAR AS TRAFFIC.

UM, SO IF THAT PARTICULAR DRIVEWAY WAS ELIMINATED FROM THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT THEY ADOPT IN THE PU, UM, AND WE WERE ALLOWED TO LOOK AT A TIA OR, UH, LOOK AT SOME SORT OF CONFIGURATION.

I MEAN, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT IT, IT'S HARD TO TELL, BUT YOU KNOW, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THERE, THE DRIVEWAY LOOKS LIKE IT LINES UP WITH WHERE A BUILDING IS.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE THEY COULD GO AROUND THE ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURE.

WELL, UH, BUT I WOULD THINK YOU WOULDN'T PUT A BUILDING ON AN APARTMENT.

I THINK HIS MOST IMPORTANT DRIVEWAYS THAT HE'S GONNA BE CONCERNED ABOUT ARE GONNA BE THE ONES THAT LINE UP WITH HEBS PARKING LOTS IN AND UP.

I DON'T SEE THAT THOSE ARE GONNA BE AN ISSUE.

I THINK THAT'S FAIR.

SO THOSE ARE HIS IMPORTANT ONES, I THINK FOR YOUR, THOSE ARE THE SALES ONES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO COMMERCIAL.

BUT I, I GOT A QUESTION I WAS GONNA ASK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP.

WHY DOES IT TAKE A YEAR TO DO THIS? A YEAR TO DO WHAT? SOME STUDY ON THIS.

I HEARD YOU MENTION IT TAKE A YEAR.

WE COULDN'T GET INFORMATION BACK TO HIM FOR A YEAR.

I DON'T, NO.

SOME ABOUT THE T I A WE DON'T PREPARE THE T SIR.

SO WE UNDERSTAND, ESPECIALLY WITH CONVERSATIONS WITH NEIGHBORS, THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY WHEN THEY HEAR THAT STAFF IS POTENTIALLY TRYING TO INCREASE THE SPEED LIMIT OF THIS ROAD TO 45 MILES AN HOUR.

COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS BOB ARAN, I'M THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO PROCEDURALLY, UH, WE HAVE TO WHAT, AND WE DID MISSPEAK AT THE BEGINNING.

WE HAVE NOT SUBMITTED A T I YET, WE HAVE OBTAINED A T I SCOPE.

SO STEP ONE IN A T PROCESS IS TO SIT DOWN WITH STAFF AND GET A SCOPE TO ACTUALLY PERFORM A T I.

AND SO THAT, THAT PROCESS TOOK SOME TIME TOWARDS THE END OF LAST YEAR TO DO.

AND WE, NOW WE HAVE THAT, AND NOW WE'RE STARTING THE T I.

THE T I ITSELF TAKES AROUND EIGHT WEEKS TO PREPARE.

AND THEN ONCE WE SUBMIT IT, THAT'S WHEN FIRST ROUND OF REVIEW COMES IN.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO STAFF WORKLOAD AND STAFF PROCESS, BUT IN OUR PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE, I WAS ALSO THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT ON HORIZON PARK.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT PROJECT, BUT I WAS, AND SO THAT T I A TOOK 18 MONTHS TO REVIEW AND THAT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO.

AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT STAFF WORKLOAD WAS AT THE TIME AND WHAT THEIR OBLIGATION WAS.

BUT FROM START TO FINISH, THAT TOOK 18 MONTHS.

SO THESE DAYS WE'RE SAYING IT'S ON AVERAGE A 12 MONTH PROCESS BETWEEN SUBMITTALS, STAFF REVIEW, TIME US TO UPDATE IT, GET IT BACK IN, GET ANOTHER ROUND OF REVIEW, HOPEFULLY ONLY TWO ROUNDS OF REVIEW, GET IT APPROVED.

THAT'S A 12 MONTH PROCESS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE TIMELINE COMES IN.

UH, AS IT RELATES TO THE DRIVEWAYS, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT.

SO CITY'S CODE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS, UH, CHAPTER 14 EX, UH, EXHIBIT A OF ZONING ORDINANCE ARTICLE, UH, SIX SECTION TWO B STATES THAT DRIVEWAYS ARE TO BE SPACED WHEN IDENTIFIED AS AN ARTERIAL ROAD BASED ON TEXTILE SPACING CRITERIA.

TEXTILE SPACING CRITERIA IS BASED ON POSTED SPEED LIMIT.

I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE WORD POSTED.

RONALD REAGAN IS POSTED AT 45 MILES AN HOUR.

WE DO HAVE A PROPOSED DRIVEWAY ON RONALD REAGAN THAT IS A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ONLY.

AND WE'VE COMMITTED TO ALREADY CONSTRUCTING A RIGHT TURN DECELERATION LANE FOR THAT DRIVEWAY.

KAUFMAN LOOP TODAY IS POSTED AT 30 MILES AN HOUR IDENTIFIED AS AN ARTERIAL FINE.

WE DON'T, THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE ROAD FOUR-LANE ROAD DOESN'T BOTHER US AT 30 MILES AN HOUR.

TEXT DOT SPECIFIES THAT DRIVEWAY SPACING US IS 200 FEET, 200 FEET, 30 MILES AN HOUR.

THIS IS IN THEIR CRITERIA MANUAL.

YOU CAN LOOK IT UP.

EVERY ONE OF OUR DRIVEWAYS MEETS THAT CRITERIA.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE STRUGGLING AS TO WHY THIS IS BEING DEBATED BY STAFF.

AGAIN, WE WANT THIS TO BE A VERY WALKABLE, DENSE COMMUNITY.

THERE'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO OUR, UH, SOUTH AND EAST.

AND

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WHICH TO ME, LOOK, I I IT'S PROBABLY FOR ANOTHER TIME TO DEBATE THAT.

BUT EVEN WITHOUT A DESIGN FOR A FUTURE ROADWAY TO TAKE THIS FROM WHAT IS THREE LANES TO IN EACH DIRECTION WITH THE CENTER LEFT TURN LANE TO A FORD LANE, IT'S, I'M, I'M HA HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING HOW WE HAVE SPEED LIMIT IDENTIFIED ALREADY, ESPECIALLY 45 MILES AN HOUR.

THAT'S WHAT WAS EXPRESSED TO US PRIOR TO THE NEW CITY ENGINEER COMING IN.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BEING VERY ADAMANT ABOUT TRYING TO GET THESE DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS INCLUDED WITHIN THIS ZONING ORDINANCE BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT WE'RE ALREADY MEETING CITY COPE.

NOW THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE OFFSET DRIVEWAY, UH, THE ONE THAT'S BY THE C E F, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GO BACK AND REEVALUATE WHAT WE CAN DO TO SEE IF WE CAN ALIGN WITH THE DRIVEWAY, UH, ACROSS THE STREET FOR H HEB, WHICH IS THEIR TRUCK DOCK.

UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN'T GET IN THE C E F, SO THAT'S WHY THE DRIVEWAY LANDED AT WHERE IT DID.

WE'RE EVEN AMENABLE TO MAKING THAT EASTERN DRIVEWAY A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT WITH WHATEVER PHYSICAL CONSTRAINTS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO ENFORCE THAT.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY, WHICH WILL BE GATED IN KNOX BOX AND WOULD ONLY EVER BE USED BY, BY EMERGENCIES.

AND WE EVEN GO AS FAR AS, UH, NOT ADDING AN ACTUAL CURB CUT, BUT MAKING THAT A MOUNTABLE CURB SO THAT A LAYMAN WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING DOESN'T EVEN THINK THERE'S A DRIVEWAY THERE.

SO THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT.

AGAIN, WE'RE MEETING CURRENT CODE BASED ON POST, POST THE SPEED LIMIT FOR AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY.

THAT'S JUST THE STRUGGLE ON OUR END.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

I'M DONE.

UM, MY QUESTION FOR STAFF IS, UH, WAS THE NUMBER OF UNITS INCLUDED IN THE, UH, UPDATE TO COUNCIL ON HOW MANY CONNECTIONS WE'RE GONNA HAVE IN PROJECTED CONNECTIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE AS FAR AS WATER WATER'S CONCERNED? SO THE CONSULTANT THAT PREPARED OUR WATER STUDY, THEY'RE AWARE OF THIS PROJECT.

SO THEY, THEY HAVE THEES THAT ARE PART OF THE CONCEPT PLAN.

SO THEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN RIGHT, IS WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED AS A PART OF THE UPDATED STAFF SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND, OH, SORRY.

NOT THE STAFF BUT THE COUNCIL THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROJECT IS ONE THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF CONNECTIONS THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE.

CORRECT.

YOU WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.

THAT, THAT'S JUST ONE, ONE QUESTION I HAVE CAUSE I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE A GOTCHA TO CITY COUNCIL COMING UP IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

UM, I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED AT FIRST TWO ABOUT THIS ACTUALLY.

I WROTE ROBIN A LETTER DURING THE DISCUSSION.

I'M LIKE, WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT DRIVEWAYS? CUZ THAT'S TYPICALLY NOT WHAT WE HAVE HERE DURING A, A ZONING REQUEST, BUT, UH, I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR IT.

UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION THEN WOULD BE TO THE APPLICANT, UH, I, I'VE SEEN A, A FEW BACK AND FORTH AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY, WHICH WAY IT'S GONNA GO TONIGHT, BUT IF WE, UH, DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE TWO DRIVEWAYS THAT THE CITY ENGINEER HAD SAID, WOULD THAT GIVE YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO THEN CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD THAT MAKE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH EVERYTHING WHILE YOU WORK ON WHERE THAT THIRD DRIVEWAY WOULD GO? YES SIR.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

UH, AND THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR STEP FORWARD.

WE DO THINK THAT WE ARE WORKING ON RE UH, RELOCATING THE THIRD DRIVEWAY SO THAT IT WOULD MATCH UP WITH THE, UM, HEB SERVICE DRIVE.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE A, A PLAN DONE ON THAT.

BUT IF WE COULD AGREE ON THE FIRST TWO DRIVEWAYS, UH, WHICH MATCH UP PERFECTLY, THAT'S DEFINITELY A STEP FORWARD.

AND THAT ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE PLANNING AND CONTINUE WORKING WITH ROBIN AND THE ENGINEERING STAFF TO ON THE THIRD DRIVEWAY.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS REALLY HIT ON EVERYTHING THAT I HAD HERE.

I JUST DID WANNA MAKE ONE STATEMENT.

I DO APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH AND KIND OF THE, UM, ALMOST ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT YOU GUYS WENT THROUGH THAT, THAT'S VERY, UH, APPRECIATIVE, AT LEAST BY ME.

UH, SO THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? OH, YES SIR.

WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN, IN SWITCHING THE, UH, THE REQUIREMENT ON THE GARAGE AND THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS BACK TO OUR EXISTING REQUIREMENTS AND NOT SEEKING A, UH, VARIANCE ON THAT, JIMMY? SURE.

SO ON THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT, UM, THAT'S REALLY COMING FROM THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.

WE WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO, UH, INCLUDE A HOTEL OR MAYBE TWO HOTELS IN THIS PROJECT.

UH, WE THINK THE MARKET IS CLEARLY THERE, THE DEMAND IS THERE BE A GOOD THING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

MOST OF THE, UM, THE, UH, MARRIOTT TYPE HOTELS, THE LIMITED SERVICE OR SELECT SERVICE HOTELS ARE IN THAT FOUR STORY, FOUR TO FIVE STORY RANGE.

SO, UM, THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE ASKING FOR THE 60 FOOT, UH, HEIGHT ALLOWANCE.

REALLY, I THINK JUST ON THOSE TWO LOTS, UH, THAT ARE, THAT ARE HATCHED.

UM, JIM,

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IF, WHAT IF IT WAS RESTRICTED FOR HOTEL USE ONLY SO THAT YOU DON'T, I JUST DON'T WANT SEE YOU BUILDING A HIGH RAISE APARTMENT BUILDING THERE.

YOU UNDERSTAND? UM, WE COULD PROBABLY WORK WITH THAT.

THERE'S A POSSIBILITY WE MIGHT WANT TO BUILD LIKE A THREE STORY OFFICE BUILDING.

UH, THAT MIGHT BE MORE, I THINK ROBIN, ARE WE AT 30 FEET? UH, HE'S 35.

35.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK, OUR MAIN OUR MAIN CONCERN OR OUR MAIN, UH, ISSUE THERE OR ASK IS TO ALLOW US TO HAVE THE HEIGHT TO GO AFTER HOTELS.

UM, IF WE CAN'T GET THAT DONE, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY WE WOULD WANT TO BUILD LIKE A THREE STORY OFFICE BUILDING.

UH, AND I'M NOT SURE, DAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK? 40 FEET? WHAT'S THAT? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

SO IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS THOUGH? YES, YES, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

IT'S JUST THOSE TWO LOTS.

JUST THE COMMERCIAL.

WHAT ABOUT THE GARAGE, UH, ISSUE? SURE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY ATTRACTED US TO THIS PROJECT WAS ALL THE WORK THAT WAS DONE BEFORE WE GOT HERE, WHICH WAS THE H E B AND ALL THE RETAIL THAT WAS COMING ALONG.

AND AS THE RETAIL, AS WE STARTED TO WORK WITH BARHOP AND HOLES AND WE STARTED TO SEE THAT THE PROJECT THEY WERE DELIVERING ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, WE START TO LOOK AT WHAT TYPE OF PRODUCT WE WOULD DELIVER FOR THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

AND SO FOR US, UM, WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, UM, THERE WAS A DESIRE TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT PEOPLE SEE PARKED ON A, ON AN APARTMENT PROJECT.

AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF TWO CAR GARAGES.

AND SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S 68% OF THE UNITS, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE, THERE'S, LET'S JUST SAY THERE FOR EASY MATH, THERE'S 450 UNITS, THERE'S 450 GARAGE SPACES, BUT ONLY 68% OF THE UNITS HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE SPACES.

SO WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD THE INTENT WAS, IS THAT HEY, LET'S GET SOME OF THESE CARS OFF OF THE DRIVEWAYS AND THE PARKED AREAS AND PUT 'EM INTO A GARAGE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE CAME UP WITH THAT PERCENTAGE.

UM, TRYING TO MEET WHAT WE FELT WAS THE INTENT OF THE CURRENT REQUIREMENT.

NOW WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND WE'RE ALL ABOUT DENSITY, RIGHT? SO WE DO A LOT OF PROJECTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, EAST FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST.

AND SO FOR US, DENSITY IS, IS KEY.

UM, BUT AGAIN, MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEIR CONCERNS WERE, MEETING WITH BARHOP KNOWLES AND THEIR VISION FOR THE MASTER PLAN, UM, WE FELT LIKE THE COMBINATION OF TWO AND THREE STORY BUILDINGS KIND OF WAS, UM, IN KEEPING WITH WHAT THE INTENT, WHAT THE NEIGHBORS LIKE TO SEE AND WHAT WHAT BARHOP LIKED.

AND SO THE GARAGES WERE A KEY COMPONENT OF THAT, OF KIND OF LIMITING THE, THE DENSITY OF GETTING TOO BIG AND BEING ABLE TO PARK.

AGAIN, 68% OF THE UNITS HAVE A GARAGE TO PARK TO, BUT 100% OF THE 450 UNITS HAVE A GARAGE STALL.

IF THAT, IF THAT, IF THOSE NUMBERS MAKE SENSE.

SO AGAIN, IT'S JUST TRYING TO PULL CARS OFF THE PARKING LOT AND PUT 'EM INTO GARAGES.

WOULD, WOULD THAT MEET WITH THE, WITH THE CITY CODE ISSUES OR, OR NO, I MEAN, I MEAN I KNOW HOW HE'S DOING HIS MATH.

IF HE'S, IF HE'S SAYING THERE'S, THERE'S A, THERE'S GONNA BE 462 GARAGE STALLS, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALL GONNA REALLY HAVE ONE IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.

SO IT'S, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE, THE MULTI-FAMILY, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRED TO BE ATTACHED TO THE UNIT.

UM, SO IT COULD BE LIKE A STANDALONE GARAGE.

I THINK THEY KIND OF, WHICH WE HAVE CASE WHERE YOU HAVE THE TOWNHOUSES AND THE COMMERCIAL, I MEAN THE MULTI-FAMILY.

UM, I THINK THAT'S MEETING THE INTENT.

I WAS A GUESS.

I WASN'T SURE WHICH ONE OF THE BUTTONS WENT BACK, BUT I GOT IT.

UM, YEAH, SO FOR US, I MEAN LIKE FOR INSTANCE, LIKE THESE, THESE ARE ALL TWO CAR GARAGES, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

AND SO AGAIN, LIKE IF YOU WERE IN A TOWNHOUSE, YOU CAN SEE LIKE THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO REAL PARKING THERE.

THEY'RE ALL PULLED INTO, INTO THE UNITS, RIGHT? AND THEN WHEN YOU GET INTO THESE BUILDINGS, THE GARAGES ARE KIND OF IN LINE, THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE.

THE BACKSIDE AGAIN, IS KIND OF SHOWING SOME PARK AREAS OR SOME OPEN SPACE, BUT WE'RE PULLING GARAGES INTO ALL THESE BUILDINGS.

IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

IT KIND OF LIMITS YOUR ABILITY TO DO A LOT OF DENSITY.

SO IT LOWERS THE DENSITY AND YOU TAKE CARS OFF OF THE SURFACE AND YOU PUT 'EM IN A GARAGE.

AND SO FOR US, THAT WAS, AS WE WORKED WITH CITY STAFF AND THE NEIGHBORS AND UNDERSTANDING THE INTENT OF THE OVERALL DESIGN, WE, WE TRIED OUR BEST.

IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT WE TRIED OUR BEST TO KIND OF BE ABLE TO PULL THOSE, THOSE OBNOXIOUS CARS.

WE ALL DRIVE AND PUT 'EM IN, PUT 'EM BEHIND THE DOOR.

SPEAKING OF PARKING, I, I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THAT.

HOW MANY SPACES DO YOU HAVE AVAILABLE PER MULTI-FAMILY UNIT? YEAH, SO, UM, AGAIN, SO THIS THING IS IN FLUX, RIGHT? SO WE'RE, WE'RE CONSTANTLY, BUT WE, FOR US PARKING IS CRITICAL, RIGHT? SO WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS.

WE'VE DONE ALMOST 50,000 APARTMENTS IN THOSE 50 YEARS.

SO WE'RE PRETTY DIALED INTO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, UM, FOR THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT.

FOR THE, I'LL KIND OF SEPARATE IT OUT FOR THIS PRODUCT, THE THREE STORY, YOU WANT TO BE IN THAT 1.8 TO 1.85 SPACES PER UNIT.

WE BREAK IT DOWN PER

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BEDROOM.

SO WE TRY AND GET REALLY INTO THE, THE WEEDS OF WHAT IT IS CUZ WE FOLLOW IT.

WE MANAGE ABOUT 15,000 APARTMENTS.

UM, SO WE'RE PRETTY IN LINE WITH WHAT WE SEE AND WHAT WORKS.

AND SO THAT NUMBER FOR US IS PRETTY KEY TO BEING THAT 1.8 TO 1.85 SPACES PER UNIT.

SO IN THAT, IN THAT SENSE, THAT IS WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THIS AREA FOR THIS PRODUCT TYPE, UM, IT WOULD BE JUST KIND OF ONE TO ONE.

SO EVERY UNIT ACTUALLY EVERY UNIT GETS TWO SPACES.

SO THERE'S SOME SMALLER TWO BEDROOMS. YOU HAVE A SINGLE PERSON IN THE THERE, THEY'RE NOT REALLY TAKING 'EM, BUT THEY'RE NOT TAKING UP ANY SPACE CUZ THEY CAN PULL THEIR GARAGE IN.

WE LIMIT GARAGE USES, THEY'RE ONLY FOR CARS.

YOU CAN'T USE IT AS STORAGE.

WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO GO FIND ANOTHER STORAGE UNIT, SAY THEY WON'T USE FOR STORAGE.

WELL IF YOU SEE ONE OF OUR UNITS WITH STORAGE COMING YEAH.

, GARAGE STORAGE.

DO YOU ALWAYS USE 'EM FOR STORAGE EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY THEY'RE NOT GONNA YEAH, BECAUSE EVEN IN, IN THE, THE CURRENT APARTMENT COMPLEXES WE HAVE, BECAUSE YOU SAYING YOU HAVE A TOWN HOMES? YES MA'AM.

AND THOSE THREE STORIES IS, IS THAT LIKE APARTMENTS? YES MA'AM.

YES.

SO AND BUT THERE'S ALSO, WAIT, WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE.

AND ONCE YOU BUILD THOSE GARAGES ALL AROUND THERE AND IS AWAY FROM THE BUILDING, TRUST ME, THAT'S GONNA BE STORAGE BECAUSE PEOPLE GONNA PARK CLOSEST TO THE DOOR BECAUSE OF WEATHER AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS.

SO YOU CAN SAY ALL DAY THAT OH IT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO PARK A CAR IN THERE.

BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THOSE GARAGES SO FAR AWAY FROM, UH, THE BUILDINGS, THE TOWNHOMES, MAYBE THEY WILL, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT THE APARTMENT DEAL MM-HMM.

, NO.

AND IT'S GONNA BE CARS EVERYWHERE AND THE GARAGES IS GONNA BE FULL OF THEIR EXTRA STUFF.

THAT'S JUST WHAT I KNOW.

AND I, AND I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT, WELL FIRST OFF, THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN THAT'S WAY BEFORE THE CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE CONCEPT PLAN DEVELOPMENT STAGE.

SO I I DO APPRECIATE THE VISUAL TOO, BY THE WAY.

SURE.

CAUSE WE DON'T GET IT THIS EARLY.

SO IT'S GOOD TO BE ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THESE THINGS.

AS, AS, UH, COMMISSIONER KOCO SAYS IT'S EXCITING.

PART OF THE REASON AND INTENT BEHIND THE ONE-TO-ONE, UM, WAS TO REDUCE THAT OVERFLOW OF TRAFFIC ONTO STREETS AND ONTO OTHER AREAS LIKE THAT.

SO I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT TO MY COMMISSIONERS HERE THAT THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE IS ONLY LEADING INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND HERE'S WHERE ALL THE, THE MULTI-FAMILY ARE ANYWAY THAT DON'T HAVE THAT DOUBLE GARAGE.

IF THEY LINE THIS, THEY'RE WALKING A LOT FURTHER THAN IF THEY USE THEIR GARAGE THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE PRESENT.

SO IF THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN THAT CAME BACK TO ME LATER ON, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEE THIS.

EVEN, EVEN WITH A, A LESS PER INDIVIDUAL UNIT GARAGE, EVEN IF YOU AVERAGED OUT AT, AT A ONE-TO-ONE.

SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE.

AND I ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT THE AERIAL MAP AND WE HAVE SOME OPEN LAND TO THE, UH, EAST, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, WHICH WOULD BE TO THE NORTH HERE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY TO THE EAST CUZ OF THE WAY THE, THE MAP IS.

UM, JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING INTO THAT SECTION ABOVE, ABOVE HERE THAT MIGHT THEN PRESENT KIND OF THE SAME PROBLEM THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AS PARKING ON THAT STREET THAT CURRENTLY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY NEIGHBORS, UM, OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, LARGE LOT LANDOWNERS.

I BELIEVE THOSE LOTS ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE INITIAL LANDOWNERS THAT WE MET WITH AT THE VERY BEGINNING TO THE EAST.

UM, SINGLE FAMILY CORRECTLY, RIGHT? YES SIR.

WELL THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS.

I DON'T THINK IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN PARKING.

SO THAT COULD VERY WELL BE, BE PAINTED RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, NO PARKING ANYWAY.

TRUE.

YEAH, TRUE THERE.

AND IT'S ALSO GONNA BE GATED PART OF, UH, THIS AS WELL.

CUZ YOU, YOU HAVE IT, YOU HAVE IT CUT OFF JUST FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND ONLY MENTION ALL THAT BECAUSE I, I APPRECIATE THE CONCEPT PLAN AND I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE, WITH THE PARKING, UM, AS YOU'VE SET FORTH JUST BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS MENTIONING ABOUT THE LOCATION OF THE MULTIFAMILY VERSUS SOME OF THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL.

SO ANYWAY, IS THERE ANY COMMISSIONER, MAY YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING? NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, UH, MS. GRIFFIN, IF WE COULD MAKE THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THE TWO DRIVES AND THEN THE UM, HEIGHT R UH, WAIVER TO BE LIMITED TO THE TWO LOTS WHERE THEY WERE SPEAKING OF THE HOTEL, THEY COULD ALWAYS COME AND GET THE THIRD DRIVE AT A LATER TIME.

BUT TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, THAT, THAT I THINK WOULD BE THE CRITERIA.

GET THE CURRENT, THE CURRENT CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN SHOWS IT AS JUST THOSE TWO LOTS WITH THE INCREASED HEIGHT.

SO THEY ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT IN THE P D BUT YOU COULD MAKE THAT A CONDITION WITH THE DRIVEWAYS TO JUST APPROVE THE TWO THAT LINE UP WITH THE EXISTING HEB DRIVEWAYS.

AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT, UM, AT SITE DEVELOPMENT, IF THEY HAVE A TIA THAT SUPPORTS ANOTHER DRIVEWAY AND IT MEETS OUR CODE, WE COULD STILL DO

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SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT THE, BUT THE, THE WAIVER DOES NOTE THAT THEY WANT A 60 FOOT FOR RESIDENTIAL AS WELL.

SO I MEAN THE ASSUMPTION HERE IN THE WAIVER IS THAT YOU'VE GOT 60 FOOT FOR COMMERCIAL, WHICH I THINK IS FINE, YOU KNOW, HAVING A HOTEL'S FINE, BUT THE 60 FOOT FOR RESIDENTIAL IS ALSO, UH, NOTED ON THE WAIVER AS WELL.

I THINK I I THINK YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION THAT 60 FOOT COMMERCIAL ONLY.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

AND AND IF YOU GUYS ARE GOOD WITH THAT THEN, THEN I THINK WE PROBABLY CAN DO SOMETHING.

YEAH, I I THINK THAT TO ACHIEVE THE THREE STORIES WITH THE GARAGE UNDERNEATH, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL NEEDS AT LEAST 45.

UM, AND I THINK CODE YOU SAID UH, ROBIN WAS 35.

IT IT'S 35.

UM, BUT WHEN YOU ADD MASONRY, THERE'S AN INCENTIVE AND YOU CAN GO HIGHER THAN THAT.

BY, RIGHT.

SO, AND AGAIN, UM, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW THE CITY OF LANDER MEASURES IT, EACH CITY MEASURES THE ROOF LINE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WITH TOPOGRAPHY AND STUFF.

SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR 60 FEET, WE DON'T NEED 60 FEET.

UM, AND THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, UH, BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF STORE THAT WE'RE BUILDING AND RESTRICTED TOO.

UM, BUT WE COULD COME BACK WITH A MORE SPECIFIC NUMBER AFTER WE KIND OF LOOK AT THAT WITH OUR ARCHITECT, IF THAT'S OKAY.

AND JUST UNDERSTAND HOW OUR BUILDINGS SIT.

BUT I KNOW WE DON'T NEED THE HEIGHT THAT THE COMMERCIAL NEEDS EXCEPT WE REALLY CAN'T APPROVE IT WITHOUT HAVING THAT NUMBER.

I GUESS I'LL HAVE TO DO SOME MATH HERE.

, UH, UM, SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I WENT BACK THERE AND TALKED TO ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES.

SO, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE BUILT A, A PROJECT SIMILAR TO THIS AND THE MAX ROOF HEIGHT WAS 54, BUT THAT'S THE VERY TOP OF THE ROOF.

UM, AND AGAIN, USUALLY IT'S LIKE AN AVERAGE GRADE PLAN IS HOW THEY MEASURE TYPICALLY HOW THEY MEASURE.

I DUNNO IF STAFF CAN HELP ME WITH THAT.

BUT, UM, SO 54 IS WHAT OUR MAX HEIGHT IS ON A THREE STORY BUILDING AND THAT'S AT THE VERY TOP OF THE ROOF.

THAT'S NOT WHERE THE UNITS ARE SITTING OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WHILE I'VE GOT YOU HERE, I JUST WANNA ASK ONE MORE QUESTION HERE.

THAT, THAT RETENTION POND, IS THAT GONNA ACTUALLY HAVE F*****G WATER IN IT OR IS IT JUST GONNA BE DRY UNTIL IT FILLS UP WHEN, WHEN THERE'S A RAIN EVENT DRY? WELL, AS FAR AS I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DUNNO IF YOU'RE DOING A WATER FEATURE, HONESTLY, WE DON'T KNOW YET.

NO, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

YEAH, ROLLING.

IT JUST LOOKS LIKE A REAL PRETTY LAKE.

THAT WOULD BE A NICE PARK SPACE WITH SOME TRAILS AND OTHER TREES.

AND SO I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, SAYING IF YOU WANNA REALLY, YOU KNOW, MAKE THIS THING EVEN BETTER THAN IT CURRENTLY IS AND I COULD SAY YOU CAN PROBABLY DO SOME STUFF AT THAT.

MY NAME'S CHARLES BRIGGS.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

I'M WITH CARLSON BRIGGS AND DEERING, I'M THE, UH, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE OVERALL SITE.

UH, YEAH, THAT, THAT POND IS, UH, INTENDED RIGHT NOW TO SERVE TWO PURPOSES, BOTH WATER QUALITY AND UH, PEAK SHAVING DETENTION, FLOOD CONTROL.

UM, SO, UH, THE IDEA RIGHT NOW IS THAT IT WOULD HOLD WATER.

UH, THERE'LL BE A STAGE IN THERE WHERE IT GETS UP TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, THEN STAYS THERE AND THEN, UH, WHEN IT RAINS IT FILLS UP MORE THEN DRAINS BACK DOWN.

UM, AND IT WOULD BE SIZED, UH, TO UH, KEEP THE FLOW RATE HEADING DOWNSTREAM, UH, ED OR BELOW EXISTING CONDITIONS THE WAY IT IS TODAY.

WILL IT BE REQUIRED TO BE A WET POND? LIKE YOU HAVE A PERMANENT POOL THAT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED WHERE YOU HAVE TO PUT CITY WATER IN IT? SO IN THAT LEVEL, UM, IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE T C Q RULES, UH, FOR WATER QUALITY, WE DO HAVE SOME CHOICES.

WE COULD DO, UH, MAYBE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO A DRY POND SO IT'S NOT SET IN STONE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE A WET POND.

UH, THAT IS JUST A, A TOOL THAT'S FREQUENTLY USED FOR THIS KIND OF THING.

THAT'S A, A CURRENT CONCERN OF THE CITY IS WHEN WE GET, UM, THE WET PONDS HAVING TO KEEP THE PERMANENT POOL LEVEL AND HAVING TO FILL IT WITH CITY WATER.

YEAH, I MEAN MY OTHER CONCERN IS JUST THAT PUTTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT CLOSE TO RONALD REAGAN, THAT CORRIDOR, IF IT'S A DRY POND, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK THAT GREAT EITHER.

SO THERE ARE SOME AESTHETIC ISSUES THAT I HAVE WITH THAT.

AND SO WHETHER YOU, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED FOR DRAINAGE AND, AND JUST OBVIOUSLY TO MAINTAIN.

UM, WHATEVER THE FLOODPLAIN WAS ON THIS, ON THIS LOT, UM, ONCE YOU DEVELOPED THE LAND, I JUST ASSUME THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AROUND THERE TO AT LEAST RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, KEEP IT AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.

A AGREED.

AND UM, ALSO JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT PART OF RONALD REAGAN, THE TOPOGRAPHY DROPS OFF DOWN INTO A LOW AREA, WHICH IS WHERE THE POND WOULD SIT AS YOU'RE ON RONALD REAGAN.

ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING 50 MILES AN HOUR OR SOMETHING, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF IT YOU'LL SEE, UH, JUST CUZ IT'S DOWN BELOW YOU.

BUT, UH, YOUR POINTS WILL TAKEN IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING THE LAW, YOU SHOULD BE DOING 45 IN THERE.

KEEP GOING.

REDLINED OUT AND IT SAYS 60, SO MAYBE 55 IS THE NUMBER, UH, THAT WE COULD 55.

UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I OKAY, ONE COMMENT ON THE, OH, SORRY.

ON THE RED LINE, UM, ON THE RESIDENTIAL, THEY WERE ORIGINALLY ASKING FOR 55 AND THEN IT'S

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YEAH, THAT WOULD WORK.

YES, WE, WE PULLED THE, THE DESIGN FOR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT WHICH YOU HAVE ANDY.

THE, THE, EXCUSE ME.

THE, THE, THE, THE WAY I, I'M READING YOUR CODE LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANOTHER EXCEPTION, BUT IT ACTUALLY SAYS THE VERTICAL DISTANCE FROM THE FINISHED FLOOR TO THE HIGHEST POINT OF ANY AND ALL COMPONENTS OF THE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING ROOF AND ANTENNAS HAZARD LIGHTING, WHICH MEANS IT'S FINISHED FLOOR TO THE VERY PEAK.

UM, SO TO GET THREE STORIES YOU WOULD BE BACK AT HIS 54, 55 FOOT HEIGHT.

UM, MANY OTHER JURISDICTIONS MEASURE THE AVERAGE OF THE GABLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT THE WAY YOU'RE THIS IS WRITTEN IS REAL STRAIGHTFORWARD.

SO THE, THE HEIGHT WOULD HAVE TO BE A LITTLE HIGHER.

ALRIGHT.

WE'D BE FINE WITH THAT.

YOU'D BE OKAY? YES MA'AM.

55.

AND AND ROBIN I WAS GONNA ASK, YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS SOME INCENTIVES THAT WOULD ALLOW IT, UM, BY, RIGHT.

UH, SO WHAT WOULD, CORRECT.

SO WHAT WOULD THAT, WHAT WOULD THAT GET THEM TO, I MEAN, DO WE NEED TO EVEN WORRY ABOUT THE 55 FOOT? SO WITH THE, THE MASONRY INCENTIVES, UM, IT ALSO INCORPORATES A SETBACK.

SO IF YOU'RE CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL, YOU HAVE TO PULL IT BACK A FOOT FOR LIKE EVERY FOOT YOU GO UP.

BUT THEY COULD GO UP TO 90 FEET.

OH, OKAY.

GOT IT.

A LOT OF, ANY MORE DISCUSSION WE HAVE QUITE A BIT TONIGHT.

UM, OKAY, ONE MORE THING, SORRY, I KNOW WE'VE BEAT THIS THING BUT PRETTY, PRETTY HEAVILY AND, UH, SO COUNTY ROAD, IS IT 2 68? 2 64? 2 64 THE BASICALLY THE BORDER BETWEEN RANCHO SIENNA AND THIS DEVELOPMENT PLANT.

WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THAT AT THAT, AT THIS POINT? I KNOW THERE'S ACCESS TO, TO SOME HOMES BACK THERE, SO I THINK THEY'RE NOT TOUCHING, UM, THEY'RE NOT TOUCH 2 68, LIKE THEY'RE NOT, Y'ALL ARE NOT PROVIDING ACCESS OFF OF 2 60, 68.

THE, THE, THE TRAIL'S GONNA CROSS OVER THAT CUZ THERE'S GONNA BE A CONNECTION FROM A TRAIL TO RANCHO SANTA.

SO TWO, THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT.

IN FACT, I THINK WE MAY HAVE MET THE FIRE CHIEF OR YEAH.

AND HE WAS LIKE, YOU'RE NOT PUTTING A DRIVEWAY HERE.

AND WE'RE LIKE, NOPE, , SO THERE'S NO DRIVEWAY OVER THERE.

WE WERE GONNA PUT AN EMERGENCY ACCESS THERE, BUT WE REALLY DON'T NEED IT.

SO THERE'S NO CONNECTION TO 2 68, BUT, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE THAT THAT TRAIL'S GONNA CONNECT UP WITH RANCHO SIENNA SOMEWHERE.

AND, AND THOSE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TECHNICALLY COULD JUST WALK ON THAT TRAIL AND WALK THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT TO GET TO THE COMMERCIAL AND EVEN OVER TO THE HEB.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND THAT'S REALLY, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I KNOW THE, UM, BAR SHS IS TRYING TO DISCUSS THE SPEED LIMIT AT THIS POINT.

BUT IT'S ALSO ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT ATTRACTED US TO THE SITE WAS THE COMPATIBILITY AND MIXED USE.

AND WE HAVEN'T TALKED MUCH ABOUT IT, BUT THAT H E B WAS A BIG DRAW FOR US AS I'M SURE IT WAS FOR YOU AS A CITY.

HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THAT COME.

SO FOR US, LIKE BEING NEXT TO THAT TYPE OF HIGH-END RETAIL WAS A BIG DRAW.

AND SO BEING ABLE TO HELP FOLKS WALK THROUGH OUR PROPERTY, THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND ACCESS THE COMMERCIAL.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA SEE.

SO THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

ALRIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, THIS IS, UH, ACTION.

ADAM, I'LL TAKE A SHOT.

UM, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, WITH THE THIRD, THE NORTHERN, WELL, IS IT THE EASTERN MOST DRIVEWAY, UM, REMOVED FROM THE, REMOVED FROM, UH, THE PLAN, THE TWO CUTS THAT LINE UP WITH H E B WILL ALLOW THOSE, UM, 55 FOOT ON THE RESIDENTIAL, 60 FOOT ON THE TWO COMMERCIAL.

AND, AND I THINK WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH THAT.

DID YOU ANY GOOD WITH THAT? YEAH, SECOND.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COSGROVE FOR EVERYTHING THAT HE JUST SAID.

AND, UH, SECONDED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER OLIVER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE LENGTHY DEBATE.

I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

DOES ANYONE NEED A BREAK OR ARE WE GOOD TO CONTINUE ON.

[13. Discuss and consider action on Tree Removal Case 22-TRP-0007 regarding removal of a Significant and Heritage Trees associated with the Hero Way Substation Site Development Project located at 13151 Hero Way West, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Discussion Consider Action]

REGULAR AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 13, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON TREE REMOVAL CASE 22 DASH T R P DASH 0 0 0 7 REGARDING REMOVAL OF A SIGNIFICANT HERITAGE TREES ASSOCIATED WITH THE HERO WAY SUBDIVISION, OR SORRY, SUBSTATION SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR PROJECT LOCATED AT 1,351 HERO WAY WEST LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

WELL AS MAYBE A P REPRESENTATIVE.

UH, SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF TREE PERMITS FOR YOU TO CLOSE THIS OUT.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE, UH, HERO WAY SUBSTATION.

UH, IT'S ALSO OWNED BY P C, UH, TONIGHT'S REPRESENTATIVE, UH, HERE TONIGHT.

I BELIEVE THERE IS, UH, C D S MURRAY AS

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UM, THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE TR UH, TREE REMOVAL BECAUSE THEY ARE REMOVING HERITAGE TREES.

SO IT GOES ONTO CITY COUNCIL.

THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO REMOVE THE FOUR SIGNIFICANT TREES.

LET'S SEE, FOUR SIGNIFICANT TREES, UH, AND FOR HERITAGE TREES DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF ELECTRIC SUBSTATION, ITS DRIVES, UM, OFF HERE WAY AND ACCOMPANYING DETENTION FACILITY THAT'S IN THE FRONT.

UH, IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT SITES CHALLENGES IN LAYOUT FLEXIBILITY DUE TO THE PRESERVATION ADHERENCE TO THE 200 FEET, UH, UNDISTURBED AREA IN THE REAR OF THE TRACK, WHICH WE'LL COVER A LITTLE BIT LATER.

UH, THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE BY CASE NUMBER 21 Z UH, 0 1 14, WHICH IS PART OF THEIR POD, UH, PER COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, REMOVAL OF SIGNIFICANT TREES GREATER THAN 18 CALIBER INCHES REQUIRES THE APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

UH, YOU'LL ALSO WEIGH IN ON THE REMOVAL OF HERITAGE TREES.

YOU'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.

UM, SO TO SET THE SCENE, LET'S SEE IF WE GOT A ZONING EXHIBIT.

OH, WE'LL USE A LOCATION EXHIBIT, UM, ACROSS THE ROAD IS SFS, UH, TWO B.

IT'S UNDEVELOPED AT THE TIME.

TO THE EAST IS AN OUTDOOR FACILITY.

UH, IT'S GC FOUR C.

UH, IT HAS ALSO, UH, INTERIM S FFR ONE B IN THE, THE REAR.

UH, TO THE SOUTH IS RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S SF, S F S TWO B, UH, AND TO THE WEST IS A PU.

UH, AND IT'S, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL.

THAT'S THE IANA UH, POD.

UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 1,200 FEET DUE EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF HERE AWAY IN LAKELINE BOULEVARD.

THE SUBJECT TRACK IS BOUND TO THE SOUTH AND THE WEST BY RESIDENTIAL USES.

TO THE SOUTH IS THE WESTWOOD, UH, SECTION THREE SUBDIVISION, AND AGAIN, TO THE, UM, UH, WEST.

UM, WEST IS THE HERANA PU, UH, THAT WE DIDN'T MENTION.

UH, LET'S SEE, THE EAST, UH, ABUDDING TRACT IS COMMERCIAL IN USE AND IS AN OUTDOOR PRACTICE FACILITY.

UM, THE SUBJECT TRACK CONTAINS NO FLOODPLAIN AND HEAVY TREE COVER, AS YOU'LL NOTE FROM THE AERIAL.

UH, DURING THE PUT ZONING PROCESS, A 200 FOOT NATURAL, UH, BUFFER, A NO BUILD AREA WAS ESTABLISHED WITH HEAVY TREE COVER TO BUFFER THE PROPOSED USE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.

THIS PROPERTY PROPERTY WILL TAKE ACCESS OFF OF HERO WAY WEST.

UM, THIS TRACT EXISTS TODAY AS A HOMESTEAD.

UH, STAFF IS CURRENTLY REVIEWING THE SITE DE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMITTAL.

SO THIS IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT.

UH, THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE ALLOWS 50% REMOVAL OF TREES BETWEEN EIGHT, UH, TO 18 INCH CALIPER, UH, WITHOUT MITIGATION.

UH, I INCLUDED THE, UH, APPROVAL CHART.

UH, IF YOU WANNA GET INTO THE DETAILS, WE CAN.

UH, SO BASICALLY THEY ARE REMOVING, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING THE FEE AND LIEU PAYMENT.

SO THEY'RE REMOVING, UM, 20.

THEY HAVE A REPLACEMENT CALIBER INCH FOR, UH, SIGNIFICANT TREES, 18 TO 25, UH, AT 128, UH, CALIBER INCHES TIMES THAT BY THE A HUNDRED AND, UH, 50, UH, DOLLAR PER CALIBER INCH THAT THEY'RE REMOVING.

IT'S, I GOT THE TOTALED OUT AMOUNT.

AND THEN THEY'RE REMOVING THE FOUR HERITAGE TREES.

THE REPLACEMENT FOR THAT ONE WOULD BE 375.

UH, TOTALED THAT OUT.

THERE'S ALSO A HERITAGE TREE REMOVAL FEE OF $300 PER CALIBER INCH THAT THEY'RE REMOVING.

UM, THEY'RE INCLUDING, UM, THEY'RE, UH, PROPOSING THE FIEN LIEU AMOUNT OF 150 CALIBER INCH.

UM, THEY'RE ALSO PRESERVING, UM, LET'S SEE, SOME SIGNIFICANT TREES IN THE REAR, WHICH ARE THOSE BLUE TREES BACK HERE.

THEY'RE COUNTING THOSE AS CREDITS BACK, UH, WHICH WILL, UH, TAKE OFF OF THAT TOTAL.

UH, THEY'RE ALSO KEEPING SOME TWO UNDER, UH, EIGHT CALIBER INCH TREES ON SITE, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL TREE CREDITS.

AND THEN THEY ARE DOING, UH, OVER PLANTINGS, UH, IN EXCESS OF THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.

SO THE GRAND TOTAL FOR THE MITIGATION FEES WILL COME OUT TO BE $85,200, UH, TO THE TREE FUND.

UM, DURING REVIEW, UM, STAFF ALWAYS SEEKS TO, UM, EXHAUST ALL DESIGN SOLUTIONS, ESPECIALLY WHEN DEALING WITH A HERITAGE TREE.

UM, SO, UM, THE PAD SIDE ITSELF, YOU CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT WITH THE HERITAGE TREE REMOVAL.

WE DID DISCUSS ALSO, YOU KNOW, SOME DESIGN, UH, REDESIGN OF THE, THE YARD.

THAT'S NOT DOABLE.

UM, AND ALSO DISCUSS KIND OF MOVING THIS DRIVEWAY HERE.

UH, AND IT'S NOT POSSIBLE DUE TO THE, UH, LET'S SEE, DUE TO THE,

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UH, THE TRUCK MANEUVERING EQUIPMENT, UH, THE DRIVEWAY ALIGNMENT ISSUES AND THE DISTANCE CRITERIA, UH, THE TREES WOULD BE TOO CLOSE TO THE DRIVEWAY, UH, TO PRESENT AND WOULD PRESENT SAFETY CONCERNS.

UH, THE DRIVE FOR THE, UH, STATION ARE DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE LARGE, UH, TRACTOR TRAILER VEHICLES WITH VERY LIMITED MANEUVERABILITY.

UM, AND THE CONNECTION POINT TO THE STATION CANNOT BE MOVED BASED ON THE EQUIPMENT LAYOUT IN THE STATION.

UH, CONNECTION AT HERE WAY IS LOCATED IN THE ONLY PLACE THAT WORKS WITH THE EQUIPMENT AND DRAINAGE ALONG HERE WAY.

SO THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE MANY, MUCH FLEXIBILITY.

THEY HAVE THIS DETENTION POND HERE.

UH, IF THEY MOVE THE DRIVEWAY UP, IT KNOCK OUT ALL THIS CREEK OVER HERE.

SO, UH, THIS IS ONLY PRACTICAL WAY THAT THEY COULD SEE, UH, PLACING IT.

SO, UH, THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT.

UM, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A, UH, UH, DISCUSSION.

SO, UH, WITHOUT ADO, THAT'S ALL STAFF HAS.

SO WE'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, UH, AFTER THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS JARED KANE.

I'M WITH CDS MURRAY.

WE'RE SITE CIVIL ENGINEERS AND SURVEYORS WORKING FOR P E C.

UM, MY PRESENTATION WILL PROBABLY BE SHORTER COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS ONE WE HEARD, BUT, UH, UH, I THINK STAFF HAS SUMMED UP EVERYTHING VERY WELL.

ONE THING THAT HAS NOT SHOWN, UH, PARTICULARLY ON THIS, UH, AREA HERE, UH, THERE IS SOME EXISTING, UH, TECH DOT DRAINAGE STRUCTURES THAT PREVENT US FROM MOVING THE DRIVEWAYS.

UH, THERE'S CROSS DRAINAGE IN HERO WAY THAT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE UNABLE TO CHANGE AT THIS TIME, UH, OR, UH, AT ANY TIME.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE EXISTING UTILITIES UP IN THIS CORNER.

SO THAT PARTICULAR DRIVEWAY I KNOW WAS OF CONCERN.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE DETENTION POND, EXCUSE ME, THE DETENTION POND FACILITIES, UH, ROUTING ALL THE WATER FROM THE STATION, CAPTURING IT AND PLACING INTO THAT, UH, IS THE ONLY PLACE FOR THAT TO BE, OBVIOUSLY, ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION, YOU DON'T HAVE, UH, A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE ANY TREES WITHIN YOUR YARD.

RIGHT? SO, UM, WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO PRESERVE AS MANY AS POSSIBLE, AS WAS MENTIONED BY STAFF.

ALSO ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE LOT, WE DO HAVE, UH, THAT GROUP OF TREES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE PRESERVING ALSO WITH THE P U D THAT WAS, UH, UH, ASSIGNED PREVIOUSLY.

THE 200 FOOT OF BUFFER IN THE BACK, EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT, THAT IS NOT AFFECTED, UH, BY THE SUBSTATION, IS GONNA REMAIN ATTACKED AND BE UNTOUCHED.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? NOT YET.

ONCE, ONCE I OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION, THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND SPEAKING OF, SINCE THIS IS REGULAR AGENDA ITEM, I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? NO, I'M GOOD WITH THIS ONE.

YES, SIR.

COMMISSIONER, NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER OLIVER.

UM, SO I DO HAVE MAYBE A, MAYBE A, A AN ODD QUESTION HERE, AND MAYBE THIS, MAYBE SOMETHING YOU CAN HELP ME OUT WITH ROBIN AS WELL, AND, AND CERTAINLY WHAT HAPPENS TO THE TREES, ESPECIALLY THE HERITAGE TREES ONCE THEY'RE CUT? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT BECOMES OF THAT 40 INCH DIAMETER OR 30 INCH DIAMETER TREE AND ALL THE WOOD, DO YOU SELL IT TO FRANKLIN BARBECUE AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE LITTLE EXTRA PROFIT OR CURRENTLY? UH, TYPICALLY, UM, WE LEAVE IT UP TO THE CONTRACTOR.

IT'S GONNA BE DOING THE SITE WORK TO DISPOSE OF THE TREES ANY WAY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE.

UM, UNLESS THERE IS, UH, SOME SPECIFIC REASON.

UM, WE HAVE MADE DEALS, UH, WITH DIFFERENT, UH, UH, CLIENTS IN THE PAST THAT, THAT HAVE WANTED, YOU KNOW, AN ADJACENT LANDOWNER HAS SPOKEN UP AND SAID, I ONCE WANT THIS, UH, ON THIS.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, NOBODY HAS COME FORWARD CLAIMING ANYTHING.

SO AT THIS TIME, IT'LL BE AT THE MERCY OF THE, OF THE SITE CONTRACTOR, UH, WHENEVER ONE IS SELECTED TO DISPOSE OF THE TREES AND THE WOOD AS, AS THEY WOULD SEE FIT.

GOT IT.

DOES OUR, DOES OUR CITY HAVE ANY STIPULATIONS AROUND TREE DISPOSAL, OR DO WE HAVE, HAVE WE, DO YOU HAVE ANY HISTORY OF WHEN WE'VE REMOVED A HERITAGE TREE, WHICH I ASSUME HAS HAPPENED BEFORE, LIKE WHAT, WHAT BECOMES OF THAT WOOD HAVE WE, LIKE, MAYBE COMMISSION AN ARTIST TO MAKE SOMETHING FOR THE CITY? LIKE THINK THAT WOOD, IS THAT FROM A HERITAGE TREE BACK THERE BEHIND US, MAYBE? OR , THE OPEN OPENNESS DESK? I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS.

THAT SOUNDS REALLY GOOD.

UM, I MEAN, JUST THINKING ABOUT A, YOU KNOW, A 40 INCH DIAMETER TREE THAT WOOD ON THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PROBABLY GET SOME CARPENTERS OUT THERE TO DO SOME FUN THINGS THERE AND MAKE SOME NEAT STUFF OUT OF IT AND NOT LET THE TREE JUST GO TO WASTE.

AND WE DO, UM, ALLOW

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THEM TO USE AUSTIN WOOD RECYCLING TOO, TO OKAY.

RECYCLE.

SO, YEAH.

WELL, JUST A CURIOUS QUESTION, BUT EITHER WAY.

YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THIS.

COMMISSIONER MOSS.

COMMISSIONER.

MAY I, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THE PIECE.

HE HAD TO JUMP THROUGH A BUNCH OF HOOPS WITH US WHEN WE HEARD THIS CASE PREVIOUSLY.

WE WANTED TO MOVE THE SUBSTATION MUCH CLOSER TO HERE AWAY.

I THINK THEY HAD WANTED IT NEAR THE BACK OF THE LOT, AND THEY, THEY REALLY WORKED WELL WITH BOTH PLANNING AND ZONING IN CITY COUNCIL TO GET THIS AS GOOD OF A PROJECT AS WE COULD GET IT.

THANKS, COMMISSIONER KORO.

, AND I THINK THEY'VE, UH, TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THESE TREES AND A BUNCH OF THE TREES IN THE BACK ARE GONNA STAY THERE TO HELP, UH, KEEP THAT AWAY FROM THE, UH, EXISTING HOMEOWNERS TO THE SOUTH.

UH, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE HOMEOWNERS TO THE WEST THAT ARE, HAVEN'T BEEN BUILT YET.

THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.

NO, I, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT THE 200 FOOT SETBACK AND THE DENSITY OF TREES.

I'M SURE THE HOMEOWNERS THAT LIVE THERE ARE GONNA BE VERY HAPPY THAT THAT'S DID, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IT, AND P C DID ADDRESS THAT, AND WE DO APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THAT'S GOOD.

I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THIS.

YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT DAY , UM, THAT WAS A, THAT, THAT WAS, I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD PROJECT.

AND I LOVE BIG TREES, BUT WHEN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS THAT, THAT, THE RESTRICTIONS WE PUT ON THE, ON THE PROJECT, UM, I DON'T SEE THERE'S NO WAY TO DO THIS PROJECT AND, AND SAVE THOSE TREES.

SO I'M OKAY, AND I HAVE NO ISSUES, NO QUESTIONS, CONCERNS.

THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

UH, SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER LANTRIP, A SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER OLIVER.

ON, UH, ITEM 14, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON TREE REMOVAL CASE T R P DASH 22 DASH NINE REGARDING REMOVAL OF TWO SIGNIFICANT TREES ASSOCIATED WITH THE 3,219 LAKELINE BOULEVARD SITE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, LOCATED AT 3,219 NORTH LAKELINE BOULEVARD, LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

[14. Discuss and consider action on Tree Removal Case TRP-22-0009 regarding removal of two Significant Trees associated with the 3219 Lakeline Boulevard Site Development Project located at 3219 North Lakeline Blvd., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Discussion Consider Action]

UH, BUT THEY ARE HERE TONIGHT, UH, TO REQUEST APPROVAL TO REMOVE THE TWO SIGNIFICANT TREES.

UH, SO KIMLEY HORN, UH, IS HERE TONIGHT.

UH, THEY'RE THE, UH, REPRESENTING AGENT.

UH, THIS IS THE FINAL STEP IN THE TREE REMOVAL PROB PRO PROCESS BECAUSE THIS IS, UH, SIGNIFICANT TREES ONLY THE APPLICANT HAS THIS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO REMOVE TWO SIGNIFICANT TREES, WHICH ARE TREE TAGGED 3 0 7 AND 3 0 3 DUE TO PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SITE, UH, WHICH WILL BE THE BUILDING AND PARKING LOT DRIVES.

WE'LL LOOK AT THE LAYOUT IN A SECOND.

UH, PER PER COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, TREES GREATER THAN 18 CALIBER INCHES REQUIRE THE APPROVAL OF THIS COMMISSION, UH, TO REMOVE.

UM, SO TO THE NORTH IS, UM, ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S THE HIGHLANDS AT CRYSTAL FALLS SUBDIVISION TO THE EAST IS A PUD UH, LAKELINE RANCH, UH, SUBDIVISION.

IT'S ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH IS A COMMERCIAL LOT.

UH, I BELIEVE IT'S A DAYCARE.

UH, AND TO THE WEST IS, UH, ALSO ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S THE HIGHLAND AT CRYSTAL FALLS SUBDIVISION WRAPS AROUND, UH, S F U TWO B.

UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 31 19, UH, NORTH LAKELINE BOULEVARD.

UH, THIS SUBJECT TRACK IS SURROUNDED TO THE NORTHEAST AND WEST BY RESIDENTIAL, AS WE COVERED BEFORE.

AND TO THE SOUTH IS EXISTING COMMERCIAL IN THE FORM OF PROSE SCHOOL.

YEAH, THERE WE GO.

GO.

UH, THE TRACT IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED WITH MINIMAL TREE COVER AND NO FLOODPLAIN WITHIN, UH, THE PROJECT WILL TAKE ACCESS OFF OF LAKELINE BOULEVARD.

THE PROJECT IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED, BUT HAS BOTH SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT PLANS IN FOR REVIEW FOR A COMMERCIAL PROJECT.

SO THEIR TREE REMOVAL IS DEPENDENT ON THAT.

AS STATED BEFORE, UM, THE COMPOSITE ZONING ALLOWS 50% OF REMOVAL OF THE SIGNIFICANT TREES BETWEEN EIGHT TO 18 CALIBER INCHES, UH, WITHOUT MITIGATION.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS, LET'S SEE, THEY ARE REMOVING, UM, AN OVERAGE OF THE EIGHT TO 18.

SO THEY, THEY OWE US ONE TO ONE RATIO AT 56.

SO THEY'RE PAYING THE, UH, THE FEE IN LIEU AMOUNT.

UM, AND THEN THEY HAVE THE TWO SIGNIFICANT TREES THAT THEY'RE REMOVING, UH, WHICH IS A REPLACEMENT RATIO OF TWO TO ONE.

SO IT'S 80 CALIBER INCHES, UH, MAS, UH, WHICH WILL BE THE 150, UH, CALIBER INCHES.

WELL, UH, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS DOING IS THEY ARE PLANTING 144, UH, REPLACEMENT INCHES, SORRY, SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN TO THE PICTURE.

UH, 144, UH, REPLACEMENT INCHES, WHICH ARE THOSE GREEN TREES THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN.

SO THEY'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND ON THEIR, UH, PLANTING REQUIREMENTS, UH, AND NEGATING THE MITIGATION FEE.

UM, LET'S SEE.

I PROBABLY SAID THE THINGS THAT, UH, UPSIZING.

YEAH, SO BASICALLY THEY NIL, UH, THEY KNEE THE, UH, THE, UH, FEE IN LIEU AMOUNT.

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SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, STAFF IS DONE WITH THEIR PRESENTATIONS.

SO WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR COMMENT AFTERWARDS.

AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF HE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY.

IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? HELLO, AND GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS RYAN SCHUBERT WITH KIMLEY HORN.

I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE MYSELF PRESENT TOO.

ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT OR THE SITE PLANE IN QUESTION.

THANK YOU, SIR.

SO I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR A DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER KOSGROW, IT'S A, IT'S A SMALL WONKY LOT, AND, AND I'M OKAY.

COMMISSIONER MAY, SINCE HE'S PLANTING SO MANY TREES, AND WE DON'T SAY THAT TOO OFTEN, MIKE, AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER DROUGHT TOLERANT TREES THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE A LOT OF WATERING, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

EVERYBODY COVERING EVERYTHING THAT NEED TO BE COVERED RIGHT NOW.

COMMISSIONER OLIVER? UH, NO QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER ELECTRIC? NO QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS, WHAT ARE YOU BUILDING THERE? DO YOU KNOW? YES.

THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS A TWO-STORY, 25,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE.

IT'S GONNA BE MULTI-TENANT, SO THERE'S NO ASSIGNED USE CURRENTLY, BUT IT'S, UH, PROPOSED FOR RETAIL AND OFFICE SPACE.

ANOTHER QUESTION, AND I AM GOOD WITH THIS ALSO.

THIS IS AN ACTION, MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND TO MOTION.

MOTION.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER COSGROVE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MOSS.

AND ON TO AGENDA ITEM 15, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING A CHANGE TO THE START TIME FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER, MS. GRIFFIN.

[15. Discuss and consider action regarding a change to the start time for the Planning & Zoning Commission meeting; Williamson & Travis Counties, Texas. ]

SO THIS ITEM, UM, WAS ON OUR AGENDA, I THINK IN DECEMBER, AND WE WERE WAITING TO HAVE A COMPLETE COMMISSION PRESENT TO MAKE A DECISION IF WE WANTED TO CHANGE THE TIME FROM 7:00 PM TO 6:00 PM AND, UH, NOW WE'LL JUST OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

I WAS PRETTY MUCH THE LONE DISSENTER ON THERE BECAUSE I WAS WORRIED THAT THAT WOULD IMPACT, UH, COMMISSIONER'S ABILITY TO SERVE.

BUT THAT HAS BEEN NEGATED UNLESS COMMISSIONER OLIVER HAS ANY ISSUES WITH IT.

SO I WILL PULL MY DISSENSION BACK.

UH, I APPRECIATE THAT CONSIDERATION.

I'M, I'M PERFECTLY FINE.

SO I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH SIX O'CLOCK.

OKAY, GREAT.

SINCE I'M THE ONE THAT WAS, WAS IMPACTED EARLIER.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER COSGROVE AND IS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANTRIP.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY STARTING THE NEXT P AND Z.

WE WILL BE MEETING AT, UH, AT 6:00 PM AND IF SOMEBODY REMIND ME, , YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT THE ONE THAT, I'M AN OLD LADY.

SOMEBODY GOTTA REMIND ME RIGHT NOW.

ONCE WE GET STARTED, ONCE I LOOK, ONCE I GET, WE GET STARTED, I'LL BE ALL RIGHT.

BUT THE INITIATION OF IT, I MIGHT COME STROLLING IN HERE AT SEVEN.

I WE SEVEN.

PROBABLY NOT .