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          [City Council Retreat]
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          GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          TODAY IS CITY COUNCIL RETREAT DAY. 
          THE DATE IS FRIDAY, JANUARY 27TH, 2023. 
          AND THE TIME IS 8:32 AM I'M GOING TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, ROLL CALL CITY SECRETARY CRABTREE. 
          D, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER KATHERINE BATTALION. 
          PARKER. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ESME MATTIA. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD. 
          HERE. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM NICOLE THOMPSON. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS ZICK. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BECKY ROSS. 
          HERE. 
          MAYOR CHRISTINE DK. 
          HERE. 
          CORRU WAS PRESENT. 
          WE'RE ABLE TO DO BUSINESS. 
          ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSS CITY COUNCIL VISION AND MISSION STATEMENTS AND 2023 GOALS. 
          OH, IS THAT YOU DAN? UM, I THOUGHT WE WERE STARTING OUT ON CAR . 
          SORRY. 
          WELCOME. 
          WE WERE EARLIER, DAN. 
          WE LIKE IT WHEN YOU'RE ON YOUR FEET GUY. 
          WE WERE IN THERE, WE WERE IN THERE HITTING IT HARD WITH, UH, WITH FUTURE DISCUSSIONS. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S FINE. 
          DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST SURE. 
          SO, UH, WHEN RON COX CAME IN AND DID HIS, UH, STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSIONS, HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY CAN HEAR ME ON THE, WITH THAT MIC. 
          UM, Y'ALL DEVELOPED A, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL VISION, UH, MISSION STATEMENTS, AND THEN UNDERNEATH THAT STRATEGIC, YOU HAD STRATEGIC FOCUS AREAS. 
          SO IT KIND OF CREATED, I THINK, A RIGHT TO SAY, AN UPSIDE DOWN PERMIT OR A CONE. 
          AND I KNOW ESME, COUNCIL MEMBER GLORIA, PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT. 
          I BELIEVE THAT DARA HAS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE PACKET NOW, UH, THE, THE ITEMS THAT WERE DONE UNDER THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSIONS ON OUR SIDE, THEY'RE INCLUDED IMMEDIATELY IN TAB THREE. 
          AND BEHIND THAT, WE'VE GOT, I THINK CEDAR PARKS. 
          I DUNNO IF WE HAVE GEORGE TOWNS YET. 
          WE HAVE GEORGETOWNS AND I, WE'VE BEEN, LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE. 
          AND SO TECHNICALLY YOU'LL NEVER FINALIZED THE, THOSE, THOSE GOALS. 
          AND I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL WANT TO TAKE TIME TO JUST LOOK THROUGH THEM, UH, FOR A MOMENT FIRST AND THEN KIND OF WALK THROUGH THEM. 
          SURE. 
          AND WE, AND WE ALSO HAVE 'EM, OF COURSE, ON THE UP ON THE POWER PANEL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          COUNSEL, DO YOU WANNA JUST FLIP THROUGH FOR A MINUTE AND THEN JUST SHOUT OUT THOUGHTS AND QUESTIONS AS YOU COME ACROSS? SOUNDS GOOD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          DID, DID ANYBODY ELSE, ANYBODY THAT COULDN'T BE WITH US THIS MORNING, DID THEY COMMUNICATE ANYTHING AS FAR AS THEIR THOUGHTS ON IT? E EITHER I JUST, WITH HER OUT BEING, BEING SICK, I, I, WE HADN'T RECEIVED, IT'S JUST HARD TO FINALIZE. 
          IT WOULD BE HARD TO FINALIZE ON ANYTHING WHEN, WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT I THINK WOULD BE GOOD WAS IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THERE JUST LOOKING THROUGH IT THAT Y'ALL THINK IS NOT STILL RELEVANT OR NEEDS TO BE ENHANCED MORE. 
          OKAY. 
          OR NEEDS TO BE, AND I KNOW IT, YOU GET INTO SOME NUANCES ON WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, MISSION VERSUS STRATEGIC FOCUS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, GETTING HOW, HOW DEEP IN THE WEEDS YOU GET WITH IT. 
          BUT I'D REALLY START WITH THE OVERALL, UH, MISSION STATEMENT AND WHAT THOSE MISSION ELEMENTS ARE. 
          AND SO COULD YOU THROW UP, UH, NOT THROW UP MIKE BEST  THROW. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY THEIR ROLE. 
          NO. 
          . 
          WHAT DO YOU MEAN? UH, TO THE FIRST SLIDE ON VISION. 
          AND REAL QUICK, I WANNA HOP IN COUNSEL MY THOUGHTS TODAY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ABSENCES FOR ILLNESS. 
          UM, THIS IS ALL RECORDED. 
          THEY CAN WATCH IT BACK LATER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE CAN HAVE OUR DISCUSSIONS OKAY. 
          AND PUT OUT OUR THOUGHTS AND GIVE SOME DIRECTION TO STAFF. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER TWO CAN KIND OF WATCH IT BACK AND THEN ALSO GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS TO STAFF. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT'LL, EVERYTHING HAS TO COME BACK TO US TO TAKE ANY ACTION ANYWAY, SO WE, THEY CAN COMMUNICATE THAT WITH STAFF AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT WHEN IT BECOMES AN AGENDA ITEM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND PUT IT ALL TOGETHER. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          BACK TO YOU, MR. DUBLIN, IF YOU HAD ANYTHING. 
          SO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND KIND OF TALK THROUGH THESE. 
          OKAY. 
          FIRST BULLET. 
          AND THIS IS VISION ELEMENTS. 
          THE CITY THAT HAS A SMALL TOWN FEEL IS NEIGHBORLY CONNECTED, FRIENDLY. 
          UH, IT'S REALLY WHERE PEOPLE FEEL THEY BELONG IN HIS FAMILY FRIENDLY. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A GENERAL CATCHALL. 
          PEOPLE ARE INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY ADVOCATE FOR THE COMMUNITY, HAS A ROBUST ECONOMY. 
          EVERYTHING IS IN LEANDER THAT WE NEED JOBS, FOOD, ENTERTAINMENT. 
          SO LIVE, WORK, PLAY A SAFE COMMUNITY. 
          AND 
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Y'ALL OUTLINED THAT OVER AND OVER THROUGHOUT THE LAST YEAR, CHARMING QUALITY OF LIFE, VIBRANT CITY ALIVE, GROWING, THRIVING, ACTIVE. 
          THE COMMUNITY PURPOSELY EMBRACES DIVERSITY. 
          ALL HAVE A SENSE OF BELONGING WITH A VARIETY OF EVENTS, HOUSING CHOICES FOR ALL, PROMOTING A SENSE OF INCLUSION. 
          NOW, IF I WERE TO, TO JUST KIND OF LOOK AT THIS, Y'ALL LOOKED AT, I MEAN, THE FIRST THREE BULLETS REALLY GO, GO BACK TO WHAT LEANDER IS. 
          AND IF, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOT IT FURTHER EMBEDDED, BUT I DO THINK THE KIND OF THE GENERAL SENSE OF PLACE ON, ON LEAN'S IDENTITY IS, IS KIND OF PART OF IT THAT Y'ALL TRIED TO CONNECT TO THAT STA TO THAT, UH, FEEL AND THE MISSION AROUND THE VISION, UH, ON THE ECONOMY. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO TO THE OTHER BULLETS, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A STRONG ECONOMY. 
          THE NEXT, REALLY THE NEXT THREE, IT'S ECONOMIC STRENGTH, IT'S LOCAL JOBS, IT'S THINGS TO DO, IT'S PLACES TO EAT, AND IT'S SAFE. 
          IT'S GOT QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          AND THAT REALLY GOES TO ME LOOKING AT, UM, EVEN DOWN INTO THE LAST TWO. 
          BUT IT REALLY GOES BACK TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHAT YOU ARE, YOUR SENSE OF PLACE WHEN YOU GO TO LEANDER. 
          DO YOU KNOW YOU'RE IN LEANDER AND DOES LEANDER HAVE EVERYTHING AS A COMMUNITY? AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, EVERYBODY WENT AROUND THE ROOM AND WE PUT, UH, STICKY BOARDS ON THE WALLS AND THEN CAME TOGETHER. 
          AND THESE WERE ALL KIND OF SYNTHESIZED IN THAT TIMEFRAME. 
          BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU THINK WE SHOULD ADD TO, UH, CONSOLIDATE OR EVEN EXPAND ON IT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMY, I THINK A BALANCED ECONOMY IS, IS ONE OF THE KEYS. 
          AND I THINK SOME OF THAT WILL ALSO COME, UH, IN, IN ROBERT'S PRESENTATION AND ON EVEN THE WATER PRESENTATION, UM, IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          THOSE THINGS ALL KIND OF GO HAND IN HAND. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, VIBRANT AND THRIVING AND ALIVE. 
          UH, I CAN TELL YOU CITIES THAT AREN'T SAFE AND DON'T HAVE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE OFTEN AREN'T VIBRANT, THRIVING AND ALIVE. 
          THEY'RE STATIC DECLINING. 
          UM, AND TRYING TO FIND WHAT THEIR NICHE SHOULD BE. 
          WE'RE NOT IN THAT REBUILDING MODE. 
          WE'RE IN THAT BUILDING MODE AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS, A HUNDRED YEARS. 
          AND SO I DO THINK THE PART THAT, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE COUNTY SEAT A HUNDRED YEAR OLD MUST SAY A HUNDRED YEAR OLD, 150 YEAR OLD TOWN SQUARE, UH, SOME OF THE BUILDING BLOCKS, WE WE'RE NOT A PORT CITY. 
          UH, WE DON'T HAVE A BEACH. 
          UM, THERE, THERE ARE SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ON A LAKE. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S A LONG LIST OF OTHER THINGS WHERE OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE AS KIND OF THEIR IDENTIFYING, UM, PRINCIPLES, UH, THAT REALLY GREW FROM THE EARLIEST DAYS OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND I THINK PART OF THAT IS, IS REALLY GOING BACK TO THE SENSE OF PLACE PIECE TOO. 
          WHAT ARE WE, WHERE'S OUR, I KNOW WE HAVE NORTHLINE, I KNOW WE HAVE OLD TOWN, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'VE GOT 86,000 PEOPLE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A MOVIE THEATER. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A BOWLING ALLEY. 
          UM, WE DON'T HAVE, AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE. 
          SO I, I WOULD KIND OF THINK ABOUT YOU WANT ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT ALSO OUR KEY AREAS OF FOCUS, UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THE MISSION STATEMENTS AND, AND THE OTHER ELEMENTS. 
          UH, MY ONE FEEDBACK WOULD BE THE WORD THAT YOU USED THERE AS FAR AS THE ECONOMY WE HAVE HAS A ROBUST ECONOMY. 
          BUT THE WORD BALANCED, I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER. 
          UM, EVEN IF IT'S ADDED INTO THAT OR SOMEHOW, UM, THE IDEA OF, OF HAVING A D UH, DIVERSIFIED COMMERCIAL BASE. 
          TWO IS I THINK VERY IMPORTANT. 
          I, I THINK WHEN YOU SEE OUR PRESENTATION ON FI ON THE FINANCE PIECE MM-HMM. 
          , UH, OR ON THE, ON THE BUDGET AND ON THE WATER, YOU WILL SEE HOW, MY OPINION ONLY, BUT I THINK YOU'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. 
          WE ARE STILL TEXT'S BEDROOM, AND WE'RE GONNA LIVE AND DIE WITH TECH. 
          I THINK WE DO LACK THE DIVERSIFICATION OF A LOT OF THE DFW CITIES. 
          UM, HATE TO POINT TO THE HOUSTON EXAMPLE, BUT AT ONE TIME HOUSTON WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT ALL DOWN WITH OIL AND GAS. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT DFW, THEY'RE REALLY DIVERSIFIED. 
          IT'S NOT JUST OIL AND GAS, IT'S FINANCIAL SERVICES, IT'S TECH, IT'S 
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AEROSPACE, IT'S DEFENSE, IT'S EVERYTHING. 
          AND I DO THINK WHEN YOU HIT SOME OF THESE BLIPS THAT THE NATIONAL ECONOMY, WORLD ECONOMY IS IN, IF YOU'RE TIED TO ANY ONE INDUSTRY TOO HEAVILY, IT'S LIKE A STOCK. 
          IF YOU PUT EVERYTHING IN ONE STOCK, YOU'RE OVER EXPOSED IF THAT INDUSTRY GOES DOWN. 
          AND I THINK THAT THAT'LL KIND OF BE SEEN IN OUR, UH, IN OUR NUMBERS, BOTH IN OUR HOUSING, CURRENT HOUSING NUMBERS, IN OUR, UM, IN OUR SALES TAX PIECE. 
          AND, AND THERE'S SOME, SOME DETAILS ON THAT. 
          BUT I DO THINK THE BALANCE LONG TERM, IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD BE AGGRESSIVE IN YOUR EARLY YEARS, UH, IF SOMEONE IS INVESTING IN THE STOCK MARKET, AS YOU GET MORE MATURE AS YOU GET TO, TO YOUR, YOUR, UH, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BUILD OUT IS YOU REALLY NEED TO HAVE SOME DIVERSIFICATION IN THERE. 
          CUZ IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, THEN YOU COULD LOOK AT A HUGE DROP LATER ON WHEN YOU ARE BUILT OUT. 
          SO WE'LL NOTE THAT BALANCE PIECE. 
          BALANCE OR DIVERSIFIED, WHATEVER THAT WORD LOOKS LIKE. 
          OR HOW, SO ARE WE JUST, ARE WE GOING AROUND THE TABLE IN ORDER OR NO? NO. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I JUST, LIKE, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW WE WERE GOING IF WE'RE JUST GONNA READ THROUGH IT AND ASK ABOUT CHANGES, BUT THAT'S, WELL IF THIS IS OUR F IF THIS IS OUR FRAMEWORK AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, I DIDN'T WANT THAT TO RIGHT. 
          TO ESCAPE MY MONEY. 
          SO I HAVE ONE ON THE, THE LAST, THE LAST, UM, BULLET POINT. 
          UM, HOW, HOW IS IT WORDED HOUSING CHOICES FOR ALL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF, THAT'S A TOUGH ONE. 
          I I WOULD SUGGEST CHANGE THAT TO, TO, UH, A VARIETY OF HOUSING CHOICES BECAUSE ALL IS IS IS A TOUGH ONE. 
          IS THAT, WELL, AND TO YOUR POINT, SORT OF CATHERINE MM-HMM. 
          , IT SEEMS LIKE THE LAST ONE IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST ONE. 
          THEY SEEM REDUNDANT TO ME. 
          YES. 
          I DON'T THINK SO. 
          THERE'S PARTS OF IT THAT ARE LIKE, WELL, THERE'S TWO, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE THOUGHT IN THAT LAST ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , LIKE ALL HAVE A SENSE OF BELONGING, I FEEL IS THE SAME AS CONNECTED AND FEEL THEY BELONG. 
          WELL, AND I CAN'T MAKE SOMEBODY FEEL BELONG. 
          RIGHT. 
          I CAN CREATE A NEIGHBORLY FRIENDLY AS A CITY COUNCIL IN THE CITY, WE CAN WORK TO CREATE A NEIGHBORLY CITY THAT'S CONNECTED. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND ASK, AND CITY STAFF CAN DO THE SAME THINGS, BUT I CAN'T, WE CAN NURTURE A SENSE OF BELONGING. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT WE CAN'T FORCE IT. 
          WELL THAT, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY IF MY PER, IF THIS IS THE CITY'S PURPOSE, THE CITY'S PURPOSE CANNOT BE TO MAKE PEOPLE HAVE A SENSE OF BELONGING. 
          WE CAN PROVIDE A VARIETY OF EVENTS, WHICH WE DO THROUGH BEING NEIGHBORLY AND CONNECTED. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, HOUSING CHOICES FOR ALL CATHERINE'S. 
          EXACTLY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND PROMOTING A SENSE OF INCLUSION. 
          WELL, IF I'M BEING NEIGHBORLY CONNECTED AND FRIENDLY, I'M DOING THAT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO TO ME IT'S JUST REDUNDANT. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK WE COULD COMBINE THE FIRST LINES, LIKE A CITY THAT HAS SMALL TOWN FEEL, UH, PURPOSELY EMBRACES DIVERSITY, NEIGHBORLY CONNECTED, FRIENDLY, FEEL THAT THEY BELONG OR FAMILY FRIENDLY. 
          THERE IS A WAY TO CONNECT, THERE IS A WAY TO COMBINE THOSE. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WHAT IF WE DO A CITY THAT HAS A SMALL TOWN CONNECTED FEEL THAT FOSTERS INCLUSION, BELONGING, A SENSE OF NEIGHBORLINESS. 
          I, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN PLAY WITH THAT OVER TIME TOO. 
          I THINK THERE'S JUST THE IDEA RIGHT NOW FOR US IS THAT THOSE TWO LINES COULD PROBABLY BE ONE AND SIMPLIFIED. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND, AND ON THE HOUSING ONE, NOW, THERE WAS THE ARTICLE AFTER THE DOUBLE TRACK. 
          UH, I DUNNO IF YOU READ THAT ONE. 
          I NEVER READ THE ARTICLE. 
          SO THERE WAS AN ARTICLE OF, I THINK WE'D BE GOOD TO READ. 
          AND I OF COURSE, NO, THE MEDIA WILL SOMETIMES TAKE A CERTAIN THEME AND NOT EVERYTHING THAT'S DISCUSSED. 
          BUT THE ONE THING THAT WAS INTERESTING WAS, WELL, IT, THERE WAS ONE OF THE TAKEAWAYS THAT ARTICLE, AND IT WAS I THINK YESTERDAY, UM, IT ALMOST THREAD AS IF, WELL, HOUSING CHOICES IN AUSTIN ARE EXPENSIVE, SO THEREFORE IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE PLACES LIKE LEANDER AS AN OPTION. 
          SO TO ME THAT THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT FURTHER SEEMS LIKE, UM, TO JAY, CHELSEA WITH MY EMAIL, IT'S FURTHERING THE WHOLE THING OF US BEING TECH BEDROOM. 
          THAT'S ON MY LIST TO DO TODAY. 
          NOT WHERE TECH SHOPS, NOT WHERE TECH WORKS. 
          AND, AND THEN I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, AS STRONG AS LEANDER, I RESPONDED AND THEY RESPONDED BACK, WOULD HAVE JOBS BASED HERE, NOT ONLY TECH I TO SEND THEM, BUT ALSO THE, THE, THE CASH REGISTERS TO CAPTURE WHERE THEY WANT THE, THE, UH, YEAH. 
          THE CASH REGISTERS TO CAPTURE THE SALES TAX. 
          BECAUSE IF EVERYBODY WERE TO GET ON THE TRAIN 
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THAT WORKED IN AUSTIN AND SPENT THEIR MONEY DOWN THERE, THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIT OF A PROBLEM FOR US. 
          BUT ALSO IF THEY JUST COME HERE TO LIVE BECAUSE IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE IN AUSTIN, THERE'S STILL, IT'S STILL AN AUSTIN CENTRIC FOCUS. 
          I THINK THAT WITH OUR TRANSIT COMPONENT, AND THIS IS WHERE THE, I THINK THE NUMBERS WILL, WILL SHOW THAT TOO. 
          AND WE GO THROUGH THE FINANCE SIDE. 
          NORTHLINE MUST BECOME A DESTINATION. 
          YEP. 
          IT'S NOT, I'M GONNA LIVE IN A HIGH END APARTMENT OR TOWN HOME AND GO TO AUSTIN TO ENTERTAIN THEM. 
          IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND. 
          IF IT'S, IF IT'S JUST APARTMENT COMPLEXES, PEOPLE HEAD SOUTH AND THEN COME BACK AND LAY THEIR HEAD HERE, YOU ARE NOT GONNA GET THE AVOR AND YOU'RE NOT EVEN GONNA MAKE BACK THE TURS FUNDS. 
          THE CITY IS ADVANCED. 
          SO IT'S GOTTA BE A BIDIRECTIONAL DEMAND SITUATION. 
          AND RIGHT NOW, BASED ON OUR LAST, OUR LAST NUMBERS, IT LOOKS LIKE OUR RIDERSHIP'S ABOUT AT THE 2010 LEVELS, WHICH IS WHEN IT OPENED, CORRECT? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THIS IS, IT'S AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S BALANCED. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S LIKE, IT'S, IT'S LIKE A FAMILY BUDGET. 
          IT'S GOTTA BE BALANCED. 
          IT CAN'T ALL BE PUSHED. 
          AND THEN ONCE YOU GET TO RETIREMENT, IF THAT BALANCE ISN'T THERE, YOU'RE GONNA BE, YOU'RE GONNA BE WORKING AT WALMART AS A GREETER. 
          THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE IF WE DON'T HAVE A BALANCED ECONOMY OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DECADES. 
          THERE'S A PART OF ME THAT WANTS TO BE REALLY SNARKY AND ADD TO THIS, NOT AUSTIN, THIS IS A BULLET POINT. 
          , IT GOES BACK TO WA I SAID IT TWO, THREE YEARS AGO TO WA W N A, WE ARE NOT AUSTIN. 
          OH, I LIKE THAT SAID, I WANTED IT TO BE OUR, OUR MOTTO, WANNA LIVE HERE, WANNA WORK HERE, WANNA BE HERE OR PLAY HERE. 
          WA WE ARE NOT AUSTIN. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED. 
          AND Y'ALL LAUGHED AT IT AND SAID, NO, I WONDER IF WE DID A RESIDENT SURVEY, HOW MANY OF THEM GO TO AUSTIN VERY FREQUENTLY FOR FUN? OR IF IT'S JUST LIKE, LIKE FOR ME PERSONALLY, LIKE I GO IF I HAVE A MEETING AND OTHERWISE I STAY UP HERE, I GO IF I'M MAKING MONEY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I GO TAKE MONEY FROM THERE, BUT I DON'T WANNA TAKE MY MONEY THERE. 
          BUT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SALES TAX CAPTURE, THE MORAL ISSUE, OUR PER CAPITA SALES TAX, HERE'S THE PROBLEM WE'RE NOT ADDING. 
          AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WE HAVE HAD RETAIL GROWTH, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S STILL NOT PROPORTIONATE TO THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO IF YOU'RE ADDING MORE PEOPLE FASTER THAN YOU'RE ADDING CASH REGISTERS, ESPECIALLY IN A, AN ECONOMY WHERE DISCRETIONARY SPINNING IS DOWN, THEN YOU'RE JUST GETTING FURTHER BEHIND. 
          AND SO FOR EACH 10,000 POPULATION, IF YOU'RE NOT ADDING IF, AND YOU CAN'T, I MEAN TYPICALLY YOU DON'T ADD THE COMMERCIAL PIECE THAT FAST, UM, ESPECIALLY IN A DOWN ECONOMY, THEN YOUR ABILITY TO PAY FOR BASIC SERVICES, POLICE, FIRE, KEEP UP WITH THOSE PROPORTIONS, YOUR MAINTENANCE, YOUR CRACK CEILING, ALL OF THAT IS YOU'RE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL AND YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA BE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL IN YOUR, IN YOUR CIP P AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          SO AGAIN, IF THE CHOICE IS, AND I I'VE NEVER SAID THAT, IT'S BETWEEN HOUSE, BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY AND APARTMENTS, AND YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE PLENTY OF BOTH COMING. 
          IT'S THAT WE CAN'T, WE CAN, ILL AFFORD ANYTHING ON 180 3 A AS AN EXAMPLE THAT'S ON FRONTAGE, NOT BE RETAIL YEAH. 
          OR COMMERCIAL. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, I THINK WHEN YOU DRIVE UP 35 THROUGH TEXAS, YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE BOOM ALONG THE WAY OF CITIES THAT OTHERWISE DON'T SEEM LIKE THEY HAD A LOT GOING FROM, BUT THEY END UP WITH THESE ENORMOUS SHOPPING CENTERS WHERE EVERYBODY STOPS AND SHOPS AND, AND, AND OUR FOLKS ARE SHOPPING AT THOSE. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK 180 3 BAY DEVELOPING THROUGH AND GETTING MORE OF THAT NEW TRAFFIC WILL HELP US AND WE JUST HAVE TO PROTECT THAT . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WHAT ELSE? NOT MUCH FOR THAT PAGE. 
          YEP. 
          MOVING ON TO KEY MISSION ELEMENTS. 
          THERE WAS ONE ON KEY MISSION ELEMENTS. 
          UH, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 DAMS PROVIDE A GOOD TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. 
          I WONDER IF THIS WAS IN OUR, IN THERE BECAUSE OF WHERE WE WERE AT LAST YEAR WITH TRYING YES. 
          TO COME UP FOR A WAY FOR, SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT SO MUCH AS REWORKED BECAUSE WE AREN'T REWORKED PROVIDING THE GOOD TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, BUT WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR PEOPLE HAVE, UM, GOOD TRANSPORTATION THROUGHOUT TOWN, EVEN IF IT'S BY FOOT OR BY CAR. 
          LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE, THE ROAD STUDY AND REDOING OUR YEAH. 
          SIDEWALK GAS. 
          THE NEXT, NEXT PART OF IT, THE NEXT PART OF IT TALKS ABOUT OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS, FACILITIES AND ALL THAT TOO. 
          LIKE, IF IT WAS GONNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, I THINK I WOULD WANT IT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT HOLDING OUR TRANSPORTATION PARTNER ACCOUNTABLE. 
          WELL, WHAT IF IT WAS ALONG THOSE LINES, CONTINUOUSLY STRIVE TO IMPROVE TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A, A LIMIT. 
          I JUST THINK THE INTENT WHEN WE PUT IT THERE WAS BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAKE THAT ON OURSELVES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , SEE IF IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO OR, OR MORE AGO. 
          AND THAT'S 
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NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE, BUT WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN, IN HOLDING OUR PARTNERS ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITIZENS HAVE THE BEST POSSIBLE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. 
          SO YOU, YOU COULD HAVE IT THROUGH KIND OF A GENERAL MOBILITY COMMENT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , AND I'LL GIVE ONE EXAMPLE. 
          IN FEBRUARY, WE'RE GONNA ISSUE THE SOLICITATION FOR THE 180 3 CORRIDOR STUDY. 
          AND I KNOW EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS A DIFFERENT VIEW OF IT. 
          UH, I THINK PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING'S LIKE, HEY, WE CAN ADDRESS THESE SIGNALS UP HERE. 
          AND I THINK, UH, THE PLANNERS AND PEOPLE LIKE ME ALSO ARE LOOKING DOWN AT THE STREET LEVEL AT THE CROSSWALK. 
          AND COULD YOU HAVE A LIGHTED CROSSWALK? AND THEN I THINK WE'RE ALL, ALL LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE RAISED MEDIANS, UH, THROUGH OLD TOWN AND OR PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE ACROSS THE CREEK. 
          SO YOU'VE GOT PHYSICAL CONNECTIVITY WHERE YOU COULD WALK FROM OLD TOWN AND GET TO LEANDER STATION, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE SIGNAL TIMING, UH, FROM 180 3 MM-HMM. 
           A ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE CITY LIMITS AT CEDAR PARK. 
          THIS, THIS IS AT LEAST ON THE STAFF SIDE, WE'RE TRYING TO PRESENT Y'ALL WITH, WE THINK IS A, UM, HOLISTIC VIEW OF WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN ON 180 3 PROPER OVER THE NEXT DECADE. 
          OUR OPINION, THIS COULD BE A GAME CHANGER MUCH BIGGER THAN BELL BOULEVARD. 
          NOW, THE FUNDS WE'RE USING FOR THIS ARE PART OF THE, THE CAP METRO REBATE. 
          IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT FIVE, YOU KNOW, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WE'VE ALLOCATED FOR THAT. 
          AND IT'S GONNA BE AN EXTENSIVE, INEXPENSIVE STUDY BECAUSE THE CROSS SECTION WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS MORE OR LESS RURAL. 
          LET'S FACE IT, YOU'VE GOT A TRAIN, YOU'VE GOT OPEN DITCH, YOU'VE GOT NO, UM, DISTINGUISHING WHERE DRIVEWAYS END AND BEGIN THROUGH OLD TOWN. 
          YOU'VE GOT NO CONNECTIVITY TO SCHOOLS ON THE 180 3 SIDE A SIDE OR SHOPPING CENTERS OR, OR TO ANYTHING ELSE. 
          NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. 
          AND THEN WITH THAT, HOW THINGS WILL INTERACT WITH NORTHLINE AND OLD TOWN, WITH THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN THAT ROBIN IS CURRENTLY, UH, OVERSEEING THAT, THAT EFFORT AS WELL. 
          SO IT'S A GENERAL MOBILITY APPROACH, TRYING TO MAKE THE MOST OUT OF THE ASSETS WE HAVE. 
          AND THEN TARGET WHAT WE NEED TO SPEND IN THE C I P OR GROW AFTER GRANT FUNDS FOR WHETHER IT'S THROUGH TECH DOT OR SO WHAT IF, WHAT IF WE REWORDED IT TO SOMETHING LIKE CONTINUE TO ENHANCE MOBILE MOBILITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY, INCLUDING PARTNERSHIP WITH CAP METRO AND CITY INFRASTRUCTURE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SORT OF ADDRESSING? ALL OF IT? I LOVE IT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ON THE NEXT ONE, THE PROVIDE WATER, UTILITIES, ROADS, FACILITIES, UM, WHAT STRIKES ME IS IT JUST SAYS PROVIDE AND NOT WHAT LEVEL. 
          AND SO IF WE COULD ADD IN BETWEEN PROVIDE AND WATER SOMETHING LIKE QUALITY OR SUPERIOR, OR I'VE GOT A HEALTHY SORE UP HERE, . 
          UM, BUT JUST TO SAY THAT WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING EXEMPLARY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THE BEST EVERY TIME. 
          ROBUST. 
          OH, MAYBE. 
          OR ADD SUSTAINABLE. 
          OOH, THAT'S GOOD. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT. 
          , . 
          I JUST KEEP THINKING ABOUT CHRISTMAS AND ALL THE EMAILS WE GOT. 
          . 
          STILL GETTING. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? STRIVE FOUR MAYBE? MM-HMM. 
          , STRIVE FOUR, EXEMPLARY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF COOL THINGS COMING THAT WELL, IT'S OUR MISSION. 
          WE'LL PUT THIS RIGHT THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S OUR MISSION. 
          SO EVERYTHING IS STRIVE FOUR, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          WELL, TRUE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          TRUE, TRUE, TRUE. 
          LIKE I FEEL LIKE THE MISSION SHOULD BE LOFTY. 
          I AGREE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M GOOD. 
          WE'RE ALL GOOD ON KEY MISSION ELEMENTS? I THINK SO. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU'RE WORD MISSING, I WOULD SAY THE ONE UNDERNEATH THAT. 
          GOOD EMPLOYER, GOOD COMPENSATION, GOOD LEADERSHIP. 
          WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? PROBABLY A BETTER WORD THAN ABOUT THE EMPLOYER OF CHOICE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          COMPETITIVE COMPENSATION. 
          GUESS MANAGE AN EMPLOYER. 
          UH, THAT'S GOOD TOO. 
          BECOME A, A COMPETITIVE EMPLOYER THAT, WHAT DID YOU JUST GREAT COMPENSATION DESTINATION. 
          COMPETITIVE COMPENSATION BECAUSE LOOKS, LOOKS GREAT. 
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COMPETITIVE COMPENSATION. 
          QUALITY LEADERSHIP. 
          QUALITY LEADERSHIP. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE, I DO THINK Y'ALL STARTED OBVIOUSLY TAKING SOME OF THOSE INITIAL STEPS ON ON SOME OF THAT. 
          YES. 
          AND WE CAN SUSTAINING IT IS GOING BACK TO THAT ECONOMIC BALANCE TOO. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. 
          MOVING ON TO A MISSION STATEMENT. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          TRY NOT TO, DID YOU WANNA GO TO, I MEAN, I LIKED IT. 
          I ANYTHING, I THINK IT'S FINE. 
          DIDN'T RON, RON HAD A COMMENT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT, DIDN'T HE SAY THAT USING THE TERM QUALITY OF LIFE WAS TOUGH? OR WAS THAT ASKED THAT HAVE A COMMENT? WHAT? WELL, IT, THE FIRST ONE SAID, WE CHANGED IT TO ENHANCE A THOUGHT BECAUSE WHATEVER THE ORIGINAL ONE SAID WAS LIKE THAT WE WERE ACTUALLY DOING IT. 
          SORT OF LIKE MAKING PEOPLE FEEL INCLUSIVE. 
          WE CAN'T. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO WE CHANGED IT TO SAY THAT WE ARE GOING, I DO THINK KEEPING THAT ONE AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE WOULD EASIER. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , ANYTHING ELSE ON MISSION STATEMENT? ALL RIGHT. 
          STRATEGIC FOCUS AREAS. 
          SO THESE ARE BROKEN DOWN REALLY INTO THE, INTO FOUR, TWO . 
          WE ACTUALLY HAVE IT BECAUSE I THINK SEVEN, SEVEN KEY AREAS. 
          SAFETY, INFRASTRUCTURE, LAND USE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, COMMUNICATION, DIVERSITY AND SENSE OF PLACE. 
          AND I THINK THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING IS YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY ORDERING THOSE, BUT IF YOU, IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THAT ORDER THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHIFT AROUND TO WELL, UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE, WOULD YOU ADD MOBILITY? YEAH. 
          OR CHANGE THAT OUT FOR ROADS. 
          I WOULDN'T MIND COMING UP WITH ANOTHER BULLET POINT AT SOME POINT HERE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CONSIDERING HOW IMPORTANT IT IS AND WHAT A BIG FOCUS THAT IS FOR OUR CITY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND IF YOU GO INTO REALLY LOOKING AT THE LAND USE PIECE, I MEAN, YES, YOU'VE HAD YOUR COMP PLAN EXERCISES, YOUR LAND USE MAP, BUT YOU KNOW, PART OF IT I THINK WILL BE CONTINUING TO REFINE WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE BALANCE OF LAND USE AT BUILDOUT TO SUSTAIN THE ECONOMY OF LEANDER, GIVEN THE SERVICE LEVELS OF SERVICE AND THE TYPE OF SERVICES. 
          I THINK YOU ASSUME CAT METRO ON INTO THE FUTURE. 
          CUZ YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN UNTIL YOU'RE OUT. 
          AND I THINK THAT WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING, SO WHEN WE GET, FOR AN EXAMPLE, FOR US TO GET THE IMPACT OF, YOU KNOW, TWO HEBS, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE FOUR HEBS. 
          AND THEN, AND ON TOP OF THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU EVEN THROW IN THE, THE, UH, LIBERTY HILL, UH, THE, UH, LIBRARY DISTRICT UP THERE, OUR NEW H E B, WE'RE ONLY PULLING 75, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PULLING 75 UH, UH CENTS OR 75%. 
          WE'RE NOT PULLING THE FULL PENNY. 
          GOT IT. 
          SO PART OF IT IS ANYTHING WE GET IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE EVEN BETTER PERFORMING OR HAVE HIGHER ED VALOREM. 
          UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A LOFTY GOAL. 
          RIGHT AHEAD. 
          YOU FIRST, WELL I WAS JUST GONNA SAY UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, COULD YOU HAD A BULLET POINT TO CHRIS'S POINT, LIKE SOMETHING ABOUT FOCUSING ON PRIMARY EMPLOYERS AT PRIMARY EMPLOYER BASE WITH COMPETITIVE COMPENSATION OR DIVERSE COMPETITIVE, I MEAN, CUZ THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
           THAT'S WHERE MY COMMENT WAS GONNA GO TOO. 
          AS FAR AS THE EMPLOYMENT BASE. 
          IF WE ARE IN OUR AGREEMENT AND THAT'S WHERE OUR SALES TAX 
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DOLLARS GO, THEN I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO, AS THE, AS A CITY IN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, UM, WE NEED TO TAKE A VERY, VERY, VERY STRONG EFFORT, UM, TO FINDING COMPANIES THAT ALSO WANT TO BE AROUND SOMETHING THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN. 
          SO IF WE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A, UM, IF WE HAVE AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE THE ONLY METRO RAIL STOP OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHO ELSE WANTS TO BE IN AN AREA LIKE THAT AND RECRUIT THAT COMPANY OR THOSE COMPANIES THAT WANT TO BE HERE. 
          UM, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE WAY TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF AUSTIN UP HERE. 
          UM, WHETHER WE WANT THAT TO BE THE CASE OR NOT, OR WE'RE GONNA BUILD SOME TYPE OF ATTRACTION IN THAT AREA THAT BRINGS PEOPLE UP HERE TOO, WHICH IS A MUCH TALLER TASK I THINK TOO. 
          UM, SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE EXTREMELY INTENTIONAL, UM, ABOUT OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY IN WORKING WITH WHAT WE GOT. 
          CUZ IF WE DON'T HAVE THE EXTRA CENT, UM, WE DO HAVE THAT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT OUR, I CERTAINLY HAVE MY OPINIONS ON WHETHER WHAT WAS BEST FOR THE CITY OR NOT BEST FOR THE CITY, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          THIS IS WHAT THE CITIZENS DECIDED. 
          SO WE NEED TO MAKE OUR, WE NEED TO DO OUR BEST WITH THAT. 
          AND I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A VERY, VERY, VERY STRATEGIC EFFORT SOMEHOW TO SEEK OUT COMPANIES THAT WANT TO BE IN THAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT AND TRY TO CAPITALIZE ON THE BEST AROUND. 
          BECAUSE OUR, OUR INCENTIVE IS WE OFFER THIS THAT NOBODY ELSE HAS. 
          WE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE THIS. 
          AND BECAUSE WE CAN'T SAY WE CAN GIVE YOU THIS CUZ WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION OR LAND OR WHATEVER ANY OTHER CITY CAN DO FOR THEM. 
          WE, WE CAN'T COMPETE WITH THAT, BUT WE HAVE OUR ONE THING. 
          SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL WITH IT. 
          AND, AND I THINK IT ALSO GOES BACK TO WITH THAT BALANCE. 
          SAY YOU LAND A A, A PRIMARY EMPLOYER AND THEY DON'T BRING WITH THEM A MASSIVE AD VALOREM OTHER THAN THE OFFICE BUILDING THEY OCCUPY AND THEY JUST BE MAYBE A TENANT, THEN IT'S KEY THAT THE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL COMPONENT YEAH. 
          LANDS AROUND IT. 
          OTHERWISE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE LUNCH IN CEDAR PARK EVERY DAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          OR LUNCH IN LIBERTY HILL, RIGHT? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND YOU WON'T GET THE VALUE ADDED. 
          AND THEN INSTEAD THEY MAY HAVE A, A CERTAIN, UM, DEMOGRAPHIC PROFILE OF THEIR, OF EMPLOYEES THAT ACTUALLY WANNA LIVE IN, LIVE AND PLAY DOWN IN AUSTIN. 
          SO AGAIN, WE NEED THEM TO BE HERE AND TO CAPTURE THOSE, THOSE SALES TAX DOLLARS. 
          AND THEN ON THE, ON THE FLIP SIDE, WHAT WE DO GET ON THE OTHER, LET'S SAY YOUR INDUSTRIAL SIDE OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UM, TILT WALL CLASS A SPACE, THAT'S REALLY GONNA HAVE TO BE HIGH YIELD ON THE A VALOR ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST HAVE GENERAL WAREHOUSING WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S HERE FOR A WHILE, IT LEAVES AND YOU KNOW HOW IT'S, UH, TAXED AND EVERYTHING IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE. 
          SO I, I THINK THAT WE HEAR Y'ALL LOUD AND CLEAR ON THAT. 
          WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS. 
          SO IF WE'VE INCENTIVIZED SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AS A CATALYST MM-HMM. 
          , THEN YOU DOESN'T MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE INCENTIVIZED A, A PIECE. 
          AND I DON'T WANT TO POINT OUT ANY SPECIFIC ONES. 
          YOU MAY INCENTIVIZE ONE THING AND THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE CATALYST AND THE NEXT THREE THINGS, UNLESS YOU, UH, EITHER GO DOWN ON THOSE INCENTIVES, ON EACH EXCESSIVE ONE OR JUST CUT THEM OFF, YOU'RE ACTUALLY NOT GONNA GET THE PAYBACK OR EVEN THE FIRST THING THAT YOU'VE INCENTIVIZED. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FOUR B. 
          AND I THINK YOU NEED TO TAKE A, A LOOK ON, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'VE INCENTIVIZED ALREADY WITH AD VALOREM ON THE TOURS WHERE YOU'VE INCENTIVIZED WITH THREE 80 S ON SALES TAX, UM, ANY INFRASTRUCTURE, ANYTHING. 
          AND LET THAT BE THE CATALYST. 
          OR IF YOU PICK A CERTAIN TYPE OF, UH, COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL USE THAT YOU'VE INCENTIVIZED, YOU DO THE ONE. 
          THEY GET THE INCENTIVE FOR BEING THE FIRST ONE. 
          THE OTHERS, WHEN THEY COME WITH THEIR HAND OUT, ONE OF THE REASONS YOU WOULDN'T DO IT, CEDAR PARKS FILLED IN. 
          THAT'S WHY CERTAIN THINGS ARE COMING. 
          THAT'S WHY WE'VE TAKEN SOME THINGS TO Y'ALL RECENTLY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THAT'LL BE GAME CHANGERS. 
          AND YOU KNOW, IT, THEY CAN KIND OF THEORETICALLY SAY THEY'RE GONNA GO FURTHER NORTH THAN US, BUT WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE THE PROXIMITY, AND WE HAVE THE POPULATION. 
          YEAH. 
          I FEEL LIKE, EXCUSE ME, OUR STRATEGIC FOCUS IS ENTIRELY INTERNAL, BUT SO MANY OF OUR PROBLEMS ARE THINGS THAT ARE EXTERNAL. 
          WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT CAT METRO. 
          WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE LIBRARY DISTRICT. 
          WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT FOUR A, FOUR B. 
          UM, SO I KNOW BUDGET CONSTRAINTS ARE WHAT THEY ARE, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO LOOK AT LOBBYING BECAUSE OUR PROBLEMS ARE NOT 
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JUST OUR OWN, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WENT TO TML LAST YEAR, I FOUND A LOT OF LITTLE CITIES AROUND DALLAS THAT HAVE THE EXACT SAME PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE WITH CAP METRO. 
          AND I WONDER IF THERE'S A WAY WITHIN OUR BUDGET CONSTRAINTS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, NETWORK AND JOIN DIFFERENT GROUPS AND LOBBY AT THE CAPITAL FOR CHANGES THAT COULD HELP US. 
          WE DO HAVE ON THE, ON THE, SEE WE HAVE LEGISLATION THAT IS IN THERE. 
          ARE WE, WELL, ONE THING WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IS, IS WHERE ARE THINGS GOING? WHAT COULD WE ATTACH TO OKAY. 
          THAT'S, YOU KNOW'S A LONG LIST OF THINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND BE VERY, VERY STRATEGIC BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS SAY, OKAY, THERE'S A CITY OF 1500 PEOPLE THAT WANTS THIS AND THEY FILE THE BILL AND THEY HAVE NOBODY ON INDUSTRY SIDE OR, OR PARTNER CITIES OR COUNTIES. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IT'LL BE A DIFFERENT ANIMAL IF YOU KNOW, A THIRD OF THE CITIES IN DFW, HALF THE ONES IN HOUSTON AND, AND, AND A QUARTER OF 'EM HERE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL. 
          YES. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT. 
          BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BE, UH, WHERE WE ARE GETTING INVOLVED IN THE LONG GAME AND HELPING TO CREATE THOSE BILLS THAT WON'T GO THROUGH THIS SESSION, BUT MAYBE IN TWO YEARS THAT WE CAN GET THOSE OTHER CITIES TO ATTACH TO. 
          AND WE HAVE A, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WILL DISCUSS IS, DO WE WANT TO HIRE LOBBYIST? OH MY GOSH. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO DISCUSS. 
          OH, I'M SO EXCITED. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS CORRECT. 
          SO CAN WE SPEAK SPEAK TO THAT? NO. 
          . 
          . 
          YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          UM, SO IF WE ARE GONNA GO DOWN THAT ROAD, I WONDER IF WE SHOULD REVISIT STRATEGIC FOCUS AREAS TO ADD, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WOULD WANT IDEALLY IN THE FUTURE OR, UM, WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO FOCUS AS LIKE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES TO BETTER THE CITY OR, OR IF THAT'S JUST GONNA BE IT'S ON STANDALONE THAT TO CHANGE FROM TIME TO TIME. 
          WELL, I, I THINK, I THINK THOSE ARE BASED ON THESE, RIGHT? YOUR LEGISLATIVE FOCUS IS SUPPORTING THE CITY STRATEGIC. 
          WELL, YES AND NO, BUT I THINK ALSO IF WE CAN GET THINGS CHANGE LEGISLATIVELY, THEN OUR STRATEGIC FOCUS CHANGES, RIGHT? YOU PIVOT SOMEWHAT BASED ON WHAT CHANGE YOU GET. 
          SO I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE DIFFERENT BUT THEY'RE CONNECTED. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND YOU'VE GOT LIKE YOUR SHORT GAME AND YOUR LONG GAME. 
          AGREED. 
          BUT I THINK THE, LIKE THE, FOR ME IT'S LIKE THE CITY KNOWS WHAT IT NEEDS TO FOCUS ON, RIGHT? WE KNOW WE NEED PRIMARY EMPLOYERS. 
          YES. 
          WE KNOW WHEN NEED. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO OUR LOBBYING FOCUS IS GOING TO BE IN SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. 
          AND THEN ONCE WE GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED, THEN YES. 
          CUZ NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO A DIFFERENT STRATEGIC FOCUS CUZ WE ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING. 
          OKAY. 
          THE LEGISLATION IS THE ENABLING MECHANISM. 
          YES. 
          FAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY TOO, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT AS PART OF THIS OVERALL FOCUS AND STAYING ON POINT WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND, AND THE VISION IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE ON THE ANTI LO WELL THE LOBBYING REGISTRATION, THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING ALL THESE, LET'S SAY OTHER FISH THAT MAY ALREADY BE HERE NIBBLING AT YOU FOR $50,000 INCENTIVES OR THIS OR THAT ON TIC-TAC TYPE THINGS, LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE, 30,000 FOOT VIEW AND BRUSHING THOSE ASIDE AND STAYING ON POINT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA BECOME, AND AND THIS IS THE THE THING, REMEMBER I, WHEN I ARRIVED, I DO IT. 
          REMEMBER HOW MANY PEOPLE SAID WE'RE GONNA BE JUST LIKE FRISCO. 
          OKAY, WELL IF YOU LOOK AT THE THINGS AT FRISCO, WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THOSE THINGS. 
          SO WE HAVE TO DO THOSE BIG PICTURE THINGS. 
          IF YOU WANT TO USE ONE OF YOUR CLASS A EXAMPLES, TIER ONE SAID HE'S IN THE STATE, THEN YOU CAN'T PUT ALL YOUR FOCUS BACK DOWN AT THAT LEVEL WHERE YOU'RE BASICALLY INCENTIVIZING THINGS THAT, OR OR YIELDING ON THINGS WHERE FOLKS SHOULD EITHER PAY A FEE OR DO A STUDY OR SOMETHING WHEN IN THE END YOU'RE, THAT'S GONNA BE DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS AND YOU'RE GONNA GIVE AWAY MORE THAN YOU'RE GONNA GET. 
          YEAH, I AGREE. 
          IT MAKES ME THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THOSE THINGS EVERY JANUARY, PEOPLE PICK OUT THEIR WORD OF THE YEAR AND POST IT ALL OVER, UH, SOCIAL. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE OUR WORD OVER AND OVER THAT, THAT COMES TO MIND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS INTENTIONALITY. 
          AND I ALMOST WANNA GO BACK TO THE MISSION STATEMENT, BUT I KIND OF DON'T. 
          UM, AND JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          WE'RE INTENTIONAL IN ALL OF THESE ACT. 
          WE'RE INTENTIONALLY IMPROVING OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE'RE INTENTIONALLY IMPROV, YOU KNOW, PROMOTING COMMUNICATION WITH OUR CITIZENS. 
          THAT'S MY ASSIGN. 
          DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ON STRATEGIC FOCUS AREAS? ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. 
          SO THESE ARE GETTING REALLY DOWN INTO MORE SPECIFIC, UH, DETAIL AGAIN ON THE PYRAMID. 
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SO THERE ARE THE AREAS OF GROWTH AND PLANNING, PROGRAMMING AND SERVICES, STAFFING, COMMUNICATION, MESSAGING, SERVICES, PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS. 
          SO Y'ALL MAY TAKE A SECOND TO KIND OF LOOK THROUGH THIS. 
          SO JUST ONE THAT JUMPS OUT, KINDA LIKE FOCUS ON BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES NOT BRING CRIME. 
          NOW, I DON'T KNOW HATE TO SAY THIS, SINCE THE ADVENT OF CASH REGISTERS, THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE COMMITTED CRIMES INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL. 
          UM, THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE CERTAIN BUSINESSES THAT MIGHT LEND THEMSELVES MORE TO CRIME THAN OTHERS. 
          I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THAT WAY. 
          SO IT MIGHT BE FOCUS ON BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT THAT, UH, ENHANCES QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING WORSE THAN IN A MILITARY TOWN, FOR EXAMPLE, TO SEE PAYDAY LOANS AND OTHER PREDATORY BUSINESSES WRAPPED AROUND, UM, THOSE FACILITIES THAT ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THOSE THAT, UH, ARE SERVING. 
          I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WOULD BE BETTER THAN MORE. 
          I THINK YOU COULD ALSO ADD TO THAT, UM, SUSTAINABILITY. 
          UM, I THINK WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESSES WE WANT TO BRING IN, UM, IT CAME UP RECENTLY BEING, YOU KNOW, RECESSION PROOF. 
          ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ON THE STRATEGIC FOCUS AREAS? JUST GONE THROUGH SAFETY SO FAR? I FEEL LIKE OUR STRATEGIC STRATEGIC FOCUS AREAS FOR COMMUNICATIONS WERE PAID OFF THIS LAST YEAR AND STAFF'S GONNA KEEP WORKING ON ENHANCING THAT FURTHER. 
          YEAH, IT'S THE WEBSITE. 
          I'M SO EXCITED. 
          . 
          SO DID WE EVER DO ANYTHING UNDER SERVICES? ESTABLISHED A CITIZEN EDUCATION PROGRAM? SO I, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW I'M WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MANAGER, LINDY MATTHEWS ON BUILDING AN OUTLINE AND A KIND OF A STRATEGY FOR HOW WE, UM, STRUCTURE THE PROGRAM. 
          IT MAY BE TRADITIONAL CLASSROOM STYLE, IT MAY BE A COMBINATION OF THAT AND SOME WEB-BASED, UH, PROGRAMMING. 
          BUT THE GOAL IS BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE FALL OR MAYBE EVEN THE SUMMER, WE'RE ACTUALLY SOLICITING THE FIRST CLASS OR THE FIRST GROUP TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE STILL IN THE EARLY STAGES OF, OF PLANNING IT, SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, AND, AND SHE'S REACHING OUT TO EACH DEPARTMENT TO, UH, IDENTIFY WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO COMMUNICATE AND HOW. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          WHAT ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL RECRUITMENT? WHAT, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT WAS. 
          WAS THAT, WAS THAT TALKING ABOUT UM, LIKE LIFEGUARDS OR DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER? I THINK THAT WAS FOR, UM, WASN'T THAT, DIDN'T THAT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH PREPARING THEM FOR, FOR JOBS THAT WE WOULD YEP. 
          ALMOST LIKE INTERNSHIPS MAY MAYBE EVEN WORKING WITH ACC THERE MAY HAVE BEEN THAT THOUGHT PROCESS TOO. 
          SO NOBODY KNOWS , IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS JOB RELATED FOR BEING AN INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE HERE, BUT I, I DON'T REMEMBER THE SPECIFICS. 
          W IT, IT MAY BE A COMBINATION OF BOTH. 
          I KNOW THE CHAMBER'S WORKING CLOSELY WITH ACC, THEY'VE GOT A, AND I FORGET THE NAME OF THE PROGRAM, BUT ACC IS ACTUALLY DOING KIND OF LIKE A BRIDGE PROGRAM WITH HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. 
          IT'S NOT AP, IT'S SOMETHING ELSE. 
          UM, IT HAS ANOTHER NAME. 
          THEY ACTUALLY, MAYOR YOU ATTEND ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE TOURS WHERE THEY WERE DOING IN EARLY COLLEGE. 
          WE DIDN'T EARLY COLLEGE, COLLEGE HIGH I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'VE, WE WE'RE GOING TO, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          AND THEN WE, WE'VE STILL GOT, AND AND WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS. 
          UH, SOME OF THE IDEAS, YOU KNOW, AREN'T GONNA PAN OUT. 
          AND, AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS AND I KNOW DAN AND AND GINA HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THESE WHERE ACC IS STARTING TO LOOK AT, OKAY, IF WE WANT TO RANCH OUT INTO MORE 
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VOCATIONAL, UM, AND MAYBE PARTICIPATE IN CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS THAT LEAD TO JOBS IN THE AREA, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO, UM, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL GRANT FUNDING AND THEN THEY'RE LOOKING TO US SAYING, OKAY, IF WE DID, IF WE PUT A BUNCH OF, UM, CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS OUT NEXT TO OUR PROPERTY AND AND TAUGHT THESE STUDENTS HOW TO DRIVE THOSE TRUCKS SO THEY CAN BE UM, PART OF A CONSTRUCTION TEAM IN THE AREA, WHAT KIND OF PERMITTING DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GET THAT? AND, AND THERE WERE SOME HURDLES THERE AND SOME OF OUR CONVERSATIONS, BUT THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS I THINK WE WILL BE ENGAGING ACC MORE IN OVER THE NEXT TWO, THREE YEARS. 
          SO THEN THIS REALLY ISN'T ABOUT REACHING OUT TO HIGH SCHOOLS FOR JOB RECRUITMENT. 
          THIS IS ABOUT PARTNERING WITH ACC AND THE CHAMBER OR WHOEVER TO WELL, AND HIGH SCHOOLS, BUT WE'RE NOT, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE SAID. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          I I THINK IT'S ALL GOOD. 
          WELL I THINK IT'S, BUT I THINK IT JUST NEEDS TO BE RIGHT. 
          BUT IF THIS IS, IF THAT'S NOT A FOCUS, IF THE FOCUS IS RIGHT NOW IS WORKING WITH ACC, THEN WE NEED TO JUST, I WAS GONNA SAY JUST WITH IT FOR WHAT IT IS AS IT IS, BUT ADD IN COLLEGES AND INSTEAD OF JUST JOB RECRUITMENT, ALSO ADD IN INTERNSHIPS. 
          CUZ WE'VE HAD SOME INTEREST IN THAT AS WELL. 
          I'VE GOT ANOTHER EMAIL OR IS IT TRAINING? CUZ EVERYTHING SAID IS REALLY ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL PIECE. 
          IT WASN'T ABOUT RECRUITING AND IT WASN'T ABOUT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ENHANCING THE PEOPLE TO BE IN A BETTER POSITION FOR CONTRACTORS OR WHOEVER TO BE ABLE TO WANT TO RECRUIT. 
          BUT WE ARE NOT, WE'RE NOT JOB RECRUITING AND WE'RE NOT WORKING WITH HIGH SCHOOLS. 
          SO IT'S LIKE THIS JUST NEEDS TO BE WORDSMITH TO BE WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON RIGHT NOW. 
          WHAT I THINK, UM, YOU WANNA GRAB LESS CHRISTIE WORKING WITH THE HIGH SCHOOLS. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL WE DO HIRE, AND YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS CHRIS, WE HIRE, UH, SEASONAL EMPLOYEES IN SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 
          IT'S NOT ABOUT THE ACC THING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          WELL I THINK IT COULD BE, WE COULD BROADEN IT TO BE BOTH, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE RECRUIT FOR WHERE WE PROVIDE TRAINING, DON'T WE DO THAT FOR SOME OF THE WATER JOBS WHERE WE HELP THEM GET THEIR CERTIFICATION? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST ONE THING OR ANOTHER. 
          IT'S KIND OF BROAD. 
          WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT IF WE, WITH THAT, IF WE EXPANDED IT TO INCLUDE COLLEGES, INTERNSHIPS, JOB TRAINING, ALL THE THINGS. 
          ALL RIGHT, COOL. 
          YEAH, AND IT'S, IT'S KIND OF THE WORKFORCE. 
          IT'S, IT'S LET'S JUST SAY SUPPORTING WORK, UH, LOCAL WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND YES. 
          PARTNERSHIPS. 
          YES. 
          AND ASHLEY, I KNOW SHE, THAT'S MUCH BETTER. 
          SHE TOOK OUT FOR A MOMENT TO TAKE A CALL. 
          I THINK SO, BUT THAT ACTUALLY SHE DID WORK ON THAT, UH, AS WELL UP IN THE WACO AREA. 
          WELL, AND THAT, THAT TO ME SAYS MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TOO, BUT WE'RE DOING INTERNALLY AND THEN ALSO PROMOTING THE EXTERNAL WORKFORCE TOO, IF THAT MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE PEOPLE IN HOUSE THAT HAVE, HAVE LIVED ON ITSELF, UH, THAT CAN HELP IN THE PARTNERSHIPS. 
          UM, UNDER THE PLANNING CATEGORY. 
          I KNOW WE, WE DID TALK ABOUT REVIEWING THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MORE OFTEN JUST BECAUSE OF, LIKE WE SAY OF THE, THE RAPID GROWTH. 
          OKAY. 
          WAS THAT 2020 THAT WE DID THE ? SO IT WAS ADOPTED IN 2021. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE COMMISSION MADE AN UPDATE, I BELIEVE IT WAS APRIL OF 2022. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE COMMISSION EVALUATED IT LAST MONTH. 
          SO WE KIND OF HAVE IT ON A CYCLE WITH THEM PER THE CHARTER TO DO IT EVERY YEAR TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES. 
          SO ON THAT ITEM, I WASN'T SURE IF IT MEANT LIKE HIRE A CONSULTANT AND OVERHAUL IT OR IF IT'S JUST UPDATES TO SEE, HEY, ARE WE TRACKING? I THINK, UM, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO TO DO THAT VERY. 
          BUT I THINK IT WAS MORE OF A LET'S LOOK AT IT. 
          DO, ARE WE AT A POINT WHERE IT'S NOT WORKING FOR US AND THERE'S TOO MANY CHANGES 
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THAT WE NEED TO JUST TAKE ANOTHER BIG LOOK AT EVERYTHING, WHETHER WE HIRE A CONSULTANT OR JUST HAVE A WORKSHOP AND, AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. 
          AND THAT WAY IT'S JUST DONE TO, UM, MAYBE TO HELP WITH, UH, ATTRACTING THE RIGHT EMPLOYERS OR WHATEVER IS I WOULD SAY WE'RE ON TRACK. 
          UM, CUZ THEY ARE MONITORING IT AND WE'RE KEEPING NOTE OF WHEN WE GET REQUESTS, HOW MANY REQUESTS WE'RE SEEING AND WHAT THEY'RE FOR. 
          SO THEN WE CAN WE RELY ON YOU TO LET US KNOW THAT IT'S TIME. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          WE COULD DO THAT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          PERFECT. 
          BECAUSE IT'S TWO TO THREE YEARS IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEEN THAT, BUT  AND, AND I GUESS I THINK THE ONE THING IS WHENEVER WE WOULD INITIATE THE NEXT PROCESS, EVEN IF IT WAS SOONER THAN LATER, THAT THAT PROCESS NOT ONLY SAY, HEY COMMUNITY, WHAT DO YOU WANT THIS TO BE? THAT IT ACTUALLY SHOWS THAT WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE WILL AFFECT. 
          CAN YOU PAY FOR IT LATER? MM-HMM. 
           THAT IT INCLUDES NOT JUST LIKES MM-HMM. 
           OR WANT US, BUT THAT IT ALSO INCLUDES THAT IF YOU CHOOSE THESE THINGS, HERE'S WHAT YOUR THEORETICAL TAX RATE COULD END UP AS IN 2050 VERSUS IF YOU CHOOSE SOME OTHER THINGS, MAYBE IT'S LOWER GOAL. 
          DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A CHARTER? I WAS GONNA SAY SAYING THAT WE HAD A, A FEW YEARS AGO, 17 CHARTER AMENDMENTS, THAT WAS THE GOAL. 
          WE WANT TO, IF WE ARE GONNA DO A COMP PLAN REVIEW, WE WENT AND, AND SOMETHING IS SUGGESTED, WE WANT A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 
          SO WHEN PEOPLE SAY YES, I, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, WE SHOULD DO THAT. 
          THAT THEY UNDERSTAND IT DOESN'T COME GREAT. 
          YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T WANT THAT IN YOUR BACKYARD. 
          BUT WELCOME TO YOUR 80 CENT PER A HUNDRED, UH, AORM, RIGHT? MM-HMM. 
           WOULD IT, SUPER RANDOM THOUGHT, BUT AS Y'ALL ARE, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH IT WITH THE COMMISSION. 
          WOULD IT MAKE SENSE JUST SO THAT AS PART OF THE COMMUNICATION STRATEGY, NOT THAT ANYBODY PAYS THAT CLOSE OF ATTENTION, BUT IN ONE OF OUR WORKSHOP SESSIONS, UM, LIKE ONCE A YEAR THAT IT'S JUST, HERE'S, HERE ARE THE MAJOR PIECES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO SUPPORT THAT COMPLIMENT SO THAT WE'RE JUST TELLING, UM, OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT MM-HMM. 
          , YOU CARRY, WE'RE TRACKING MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, AND BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES, LIKE THE DEVELOPERS AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL PULL THINGS OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND GO, BUT SEE, BUT WE'RE DOING THIS AND THIS IS WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS. 
          IT'S LIKE MAYBE, AND SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE, YEAH, YOU'RE SPOT ON AND OTHER TIMES IT'S LIKE, BUT YOU NEEDED TO INCLUDE THE REST OF THAT PARAGRAPH, YOU KNOW? AND SO THAT WE'RE, WE'RE JUST SORT OF TELLING THE WORLD, HEY LOOK, WE DO PAY ATTENTION TO THESE THINGS. 
          SO, UM, EVERY YEAR WE PROVIDE, UH, UPDATE TO THE COMMISSION ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE AND WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE ITEMS AND KIND OF WHAT OUR PLAN IS. 
          UM, THAT'S HAPPENING NEXT MONTH. 
          I JUST GOT FEEDBACK FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENTS ON WHAT THEY HAD BEEN WORKING ON. 
          COOL. 
          UM, SO WE DO PROVIDE THAT TO THE COMMISSION. 
          UM, I GUESS I COULD ALSO PROVIDE THAT TO THE COUNCIL BY THAT TOO. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO KNOW THAT TOO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          Y'ALL COULD MAKE A, A BULLET HERE THAT SAYS CLONE ROBIN WOULD BE ONE OF THE LAND USE ONES. 
          I DO HAVE VERY HELPFUL STAFF . 
          SO WHAT, UNDER THE ORDINANCE AND REGULATIONS, UH, WE DO HAVE ESTABLISHED THE ZEROSCAPE INCENTIVES. 
          HOW DID WE ACTUALLY DO THAT? SO, UM, IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE WE MADE UPDATES. 
          THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY INCENTIVES. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COMES FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT, LIKE PUBLIC WORKS UTILITIES WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE RAIN BARRELS OR I'M NOT AS CONFIDENT IN THAT ONE. 
          YEAH, I'M MISSING THAT'S OKAY. 
          I'LL GO. 
          UM, I DO THINK WHEN WE GET TO THE WATER PIECE, THE DISCUSSION, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS WORKING, WHAT ISN'T WORKING OR WHAT NEEDS TO STILL BE FILLED IN. 
          SO I THINK THE AIR ESCAPEE INCENTIVE PIECE, UM, EVEN THE COMPARISON, IF YOU WERE TO TAKE A, UM, HOW THINGS WERE OR HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN LARGE LOT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH UM, LET'S SAY A A GREAT WOOD TYPE VERSUS, UH, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH QUITE FRANKLY IS GOING TO BE, UH, MUCH MORE EFFICIENT ON PAPER. 
          THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, THE PROBLEM IS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR OVERALL NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS AND SHOULD WE BE ENCOURAGING FOLKS TO NOT, AND NOT 
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ACTUALLY HAVE IRRIGATION ACROSS THE BIG LOT, THEN YOU'D STILL BE, THEN YOU'D BE BETTER THAN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          SO THERE'S A, THERE'S THOSE PIECES AND YES, SOME THINGS ARE INCENTIVES AND KIND OF DISINCENTIVES FOR CERTAIN LAND USE TYPES AT THE END OF THE DAY, BUT WE DO HAVE A FINITE AMOUNT OF WATER, ESPECIALLY OVER THE NEXT FIVE TO SIX YEARS. 
          SO I GUESS HOW INTENSELY Y'ALL WOULD LIKE US TO PURSUE THOSE. 
          AND THE OTHER REALISM IS ROBIN'S GONNA GET INTO HOW LONG IT ACTUALLY TAKES TO SEE THE CHANGE FOR WHAT'S GRANDFATHERED VERSUS WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE NEW ORDINANCE TAKES, TAKES PLACE. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE AN EYE-OPENER BECAUSE I THINK, ISN'T IT AROUND SEVEN YEARS IN SOME CASES CAN BE LONGER. 
          SO YOU COULD PASS SOMETHING AND IT COULD BE, YOU COULD BE 2030 BEFORE YOU SEE A CHANGE FOR WHAT'S ENTITLED VERSUS WHAT WILL BE ENTITLED. 
          WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR COUNCIL TO GET A LISTING OF LIKE THE TOP 10 OR 15 WATER USERS IN THE CITY SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE, UM, WHERE THAT HIGHEST CONSUMPTION IS AND HOW MUCH IT IS AND WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND HOW THAT COMPARES WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS, KIND OF SEEING THAT REAL WORLD SCENARIO OF HOW IT'S BEEN WORKING HERE. 
          SO WHEN YOU SAY TOP, SO WE DO HAVE, IN OUR UPCOMING PRESENTATION, UM, WE'RE GONNA GONNA SHOW YOU TOP 10 INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTIAL USERS MM-HMM. 
           AS FAR AS USAGE, UM, DURING A PEAK MONTH, I THINK IT WAS JULY. 
          UM, YOU'LL, YOU'RE GONNA BE SHOCKED AND WE'VE SHOWN SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO YOU BEFORE. 
          THEY'RE FROM DIFFERENT, THEY'RE ALL FROM DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY, BUT I MEAN LIKE COMMERCIAL I THINK IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. 
          YEAH. 
          LIKE THIS SHOPPING CENTER VERSUS THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          AND I KNOW THEY'RE ON DIFFERENT METERS, BUT I THINK YOU CAN MAYBE PULL BY ADDRESS AND SEE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE STANDARD DOING VERSUS, CAUSE I ASSUME THEY'RE, THEY WOULD POP UP IN ONE OF THOSE, AT LEAST ONE OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX WOULD POP UP IN A TOP 15 AND AT LEAST ONE COMMERCIAL COMPLEX AND I'M GUESSING AT LEAST ONE HOUSE . 
          SO YEAH, THE HOUSES ARE AMAZING HOW THEY'RE, AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS LIKE HOW, WHAT'S THE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE USERS SO THAT WE CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT DATA BETTER. 
          UM, WE'LL, WE'LL KIND OF TALK THROUGH SOME OF THAT THOUGHT PROCESS IN OUR, UH, UPCOMING PRESENTATION BECAUSE WE, IN, IN OUR REVIEW OF A LOT OF THE TOP USERS FOR SEVERAL OF THE MONTHS, GOING BACK TO 2020 AND 2019, WE SAW CONSISTENTLY WE SAW HOME BUILDERS WITH SPEC WITH THEIR MODEL HOMES HITTING THAT TOP 10 EVERY SINGLE TIME. 
          SO, UM, AND WE WEREN'T SURPRISED TO SEE THAT, IN FACT THOSE, THOSE USERS IN PARTICULAR, THAT NICHE OF USERS WE TARGETED IN EVERY ENFORCEMENT WE'VE DONE, UH, LEADING UP TO SOME OF OUR REPAIRS AND OUR OUTAGES BECAUSE THAT'S, THEY JUST DO IT. 
          THEY IGNORE THE RULES AND THEY, THEY'LL SPEND THE MONEY TO KEEP THOSE MODEL HOMES, UH, SUPER GREEN, BUT THEY USE A LOT OF WATER. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL SHOW YOU IS TOP 10. 
          WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT SHOWING THE ADDRESSES OF THOSE, BUT, UM, WE'LL WE'LL GET TO THE POINT A LITTLE BIT LATER WHERE WE EVALUATE SOME OF THAT AND YOU'LL GET TO SEE KIND OF WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          RANDOM QUESTION. 
          SO WE GOT, I MEAN I, I UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINE, RIGHT? IF WE DO THINGS NOW, THE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO COME ONLINE, BUT IS THERE THE ABILITY OR IS IT TOO BIG OF A BEAR TO VISIT WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE GRANDFATHERED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN DO WHAT WE TOLD 'EM THEY CAN DO. 
          I'M NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THE GAME ON THEM, BUT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND, HEY LOOK, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE. 
          SO YOU CAN TOTALLY DO WHAT WE TOLD YOU YOU COULD DO, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER TO MOVE TO THIS INSTEAD OF THIS, WELL, IF THEY ASK FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEONE'S ASKING FOR SOMETHING IN A PUT, I'M NOT, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT IF THEY ASK FOR SOMETHING IN A PU THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE, THEN COULDN'T YOU BRING UP, WELL IF YOU'D LIKE THAT, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO ZERO ESCAPE AS AN EXAMPLE? OR IS THAT CORRECT? SO IN, IN THE PUD UM, WHEN THEY'RE REQUESTING WAIVERS, WE ASK FOR THEM TO ALSO PROVIDE HIGHER STANDARDS. 
          WE WOULD CONSIDER SIRI GAPING TO BE A HIGHER STANDARD. 
          SO, BUT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT COULD ONES THAT ARE INVESTING YEAH. 
          THAT WE'VE ALREADY SAID, HEY, YOU'RE GOOD. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE THE RULES ON YOU BECAUSE I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT, BUT IS THERE, NOT THAT WE COULD, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO GO BACK AND NEGOTIATE AND NEGOTIATE, IT'S NOT EVEN THE RIGHT WORD, BUT YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO YEAH, BE NICE AND ASK. 
          I MEAN WE, WE CAN KINDLY ASK THEM WHEN THEY THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT UM, TYPICALLY THEY DON'T WANT TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES TO THEIR PLANS UNLESS THERE WAS LIKE, AND YOU CAN'T TIE TO SOME OF THEIR FUTURE. 
          YOU CAN'T TIE, YOU CAN'T TIE IT TO THEIR FUTURE STUFF. 
          I MEAN, IF WE CAME UP REASON THAT SOMEBODY WOULD RIGHT, IF THEY GOT SOMETHING OUT OF A 
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WIN-WIN CAME ABOUT LIKE IF HEY, IF YOU DO LESS TURF, YOU GET THIS INCENTIVE, THAT'S A WAY TO DO IT. 
          BUT IT WOULD BE HARD TO DO IT FOR LIKE THE ENTIRE TRIVIO SUBDIVISION, RIGHT. 
          UNLESS THEY CAME IN, THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, WE WANNA ASK FOR A HIGHER D DENSITY LIKE IN OUR AREA. 
          THEN YOU COULD SAY, WELL NO, THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. 
          I WAS JUST TRYING TO BE CREATIVE. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO JUST HAVE AN OVERALL UNDERSTANDING OR KIND OF LEANING IN THE DIRECTION OF, UM, I MEAN THIS COULD BE A GRADUAL CHANGE, BUT WE, WE HAVE, AND IT'S NOT LEANDER, IT'S A SOCIETY OF YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GREEN LAWN AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UH, THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM AND THAT IS NOT NATURAL. 
          THERE'S NOTHING NORMAL ABOUT THAT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA. 
          THERE'S NOTHING NORMAL ABOUT PUTTING, YOU KNOW, AN ARTIFICIALLY WATERED GRASS IN YOUR YARD. 
          IS IT PRETTY? ABSOLUTELY. 
          DOES IT FEEL GOOD? ABSOLUTELY IS NOT NORMAL. 
          GRASS DOES NOT, THAT IS NOT A NORMAL PROCESS FOR GRASS. 
          IT, IT RELIES ON THE RAINWATER. 
          SO WE HAVE CREATED THAT AND YOU KNOW, I CAN JUST HEAR THE INDUSTRY THAT INSTALLS THESE SCREAMING LIKE, NO, NO, NO, THAT'S OUR BUSINESS. 
          AND SO IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT TRYING TO CHANGE BUSINESS, IT'S TRYING TO CHANGE THE MINDSET OF IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY AND WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT IN EVERY, EVERY EVERYTHING THAT WE APPROVE THAT YOU MUST WATER THESE TREES THAT YOU ARE CUTTING AROUND THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, FOREVER AND THEY'VE PERFECTLY BEEN FINE WITHOUT A SPRINKLER SYSTEM AND NOW WE HAVE TO WATER THEM. 
          IT, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          AND I'VE SEEN THAT ON SOME OF THE, THE WORDING AND, AND MAYBE THAT IS CUZ WE DON'T WANNA KILL THE TREES, BUT WHEN WE'RE KILLING TREES TO PLANT TREES TO WATER THE TREES WHEN THE OTHER TREES WERE SURVIVING JUST FINE ALL ALONE. 
          IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE COUNTERINTUITIVE. 
          SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER THAT'S MUCH BIGGER THAN ME, BUT I THINK WE'VE, UM, AND WE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER IN THE LANDSCAPE OR THE WATER, THE WATER ITEM. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TURF REQUIREMENTS, WHAT WE'VE CHANGED, HOW IT, IT, IT'LL FORCE THEM TO DO IT EVEN IF THEY LIKE THE LAWN. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO WE, WE HAVE A COUPLE THINGS LIKE THAT WE CAN GO OVER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU'RE ALREADY DOING THAT? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          A LOT OF THIS REMINDS ME OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD A FEW YEARS AGO ABOUT MASONRY AND THEN DOING THE INCENTIVES ON DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WHEN THEY'RE GOING HIGHER. 
          MASONRY. 
          PERSONALLY, AS LONG, LONG AS IT'S NOT GONNA DETERIORATE. 
          I DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR BUILDING IS MADE OF, BUT I DO WANNA SEE MORE ZEROSCAPING AND I FEEL LIKE, THERE'S SOME ROOM TO DO SOME CREATIVE STUFF LIKE THAT FOR DEVELOPMENTS. 
          WE DID DO THAT. 
          UM, WHEN WE DID THE MASONRY INCENTIVE, WE DID A LANDSCAPE INCENTIVE. 
          SO WE LET THEM REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TREES THEY PLANTED IN SETBACKS FOR COMMERCIAL TO REDUCE THE SETBACKS. 
          YES. 
          UM, BUT IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, WE ALSO ENCOURAGE 'EM NOT TO TAKE OUT THE TREES IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          SO IF THEY HAVE EXISTING TREES, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PLANT NEW TREES. 
          I'M OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WITH Y'ALL USING WHATEVER LEVERS YOU WANT AND YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, UM, FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE WHATEVER POLICY TO, TO REALLY TAKE CARE OF THE WATER SYSTEM. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS FOR EXISTING, UH, INCENTIVES THAT I HEARD ABOUT OTHER CITIES DOING IS USING THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA AND HAVING LIKE A YARD OF THE MONTH, AND IT'S ALWAYS A WATER CONSCIOUS YARD, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY HIGHLIGHT AND THEY SAY LIKE, THIS PERSON DID THIS WITH ROCKS, OR THEY USE THESE NATURAL PLANTS. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA TAKE ON, BUT IT'S JUST AN IDEA THAT I HEARD. 
          SO I WHAT WE'RE TALKING, I'LL THROW IT OUT THERE. 
          CONSERVATION GUY, BOB. 
          YEAH. 
          BILL TEETER. 
          YEAH. 
          BILL, SORRY. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, BILL AND LINDY, IF THEY WANTED TO, THAT COULD BE A PROGRAM, BUT, UH, BUT IT PUTS IT OUT INTO, IN FRONT OF PEOPLE CONSISTENTLY OF REMINDING THEM, AND IT GIVES 'EM A LITTLE INCENTIVE THAT THEY GET LIKE A SIGN IN THE YARD AND FEATURED BY THE CITY. 
          SO I GUESS IT'S WORKED WHILE IN SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, WE HAVE HAD A REQUEST FOR A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, SO IT'S 9 35. 
          PLEASE BE BACK AT 9 41. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THE TIME IS 9 48. 
          AND WE ARE BACK ON THE RECORD. 
          COUNSEL, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER ON VISION AND MISSION STATEMENTS? WE'RE STILL KIND OF GOING THROUGH STRATEGIC FOCUS. 
          CAN, CAN I JUST ADD ONE THING JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CONVERSATION THAT OF COURSE WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, THE LAWNS, UM, IN, IN, I'M USING THE WORD INCENTIVIZE, NOT NECESSARILY INCENTIVIZE, BUT ENCOURAGE, UH, AND TALKING ABOUT THE LAWNS BEING GOING DORMANT AND SO ON. 
          I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, IT'S NOT A, I THINK SOME PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO KEEP THEIR LAWNS WATERED BECAUSE THE HOA IS GOING TO FIND THEM IF IT'S NOT. 
          AND THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF A SHIFT IN THAT MINDSET, WHETHER IT'S WITH OUR HOAS, UH, WHERE LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, YOU CAN, BUT IT'S NOT A, A HAVE TO SITUATION, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          SO I THINK IF WE JUST LEAN IN THAT DIRECTION, I'M NOT TRYING TO CONTROL , BUT ENCOURAGE, SO I KNOW SOME OF THE HOAS REQUIRE YOUR GRASS TO STAY GREEN, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE STATE LAW SAYS THAT THEY CAN'T DENY YOU DOING ZERO ESCAPING. 
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THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO MAYBE WHAT WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT IS MM-HMM. 
          , YOU CAN DO THIS WITH YOUR YARD. 
          YEAH. 
          WHICH IS MORE EXPENSIVE. 
          IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE, YEAH. 
          UPFRONT. 
          SO YES. 
          EVERY TIME. 
          BUT, BUT AT LEAST IT OFFERED BECAUSE I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WANT TO DO THAT, SO I JUST, I JUST DON'T WANT IT, IT TO BE ALLOWED. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU CAN'T WATER YOUR LAWN, BUT NO, JUST TO, I GUESS AN EDUCATION PIECE OF UNDERSTANDING AND KIND OF LEANING IN THAT DIRECTION, AND MAYBE IT'S A, IN 20 YEARS WE'RE NOT A, UM, CITY FILLED WITH LANDSCAPE. 
          WELL, IT COULD BE A CONVERSATION WITH THE HOAS TO KIND OF LET THEM KNOW, HEY, THIS COULD BE DIFFERENT. 
          UM, I, I DID MY LAWN AND I HAD TO, UM, SUBMIT DOCUMENTS TO THE HUA SHOWING WHAT I WAS DOING MM-HMM. 
          , BUT I WAS ABLE TO PHASES TAKE OUT A LOT OF GRASS. 
          UM, SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN GREAT. 
          I'M IN TIER ONE, ROBERT . 
          . 
          ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I MEAN, NO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF, IF SOMETHING WE COULD GET BILLED ALSO TO WORK ON THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, TRUTHFULLY, IF YOU GO BACK AND, AND I THINK THIS SHOWS IN THE, IN THE PRESENTATION THAT WHEN THE PRODUCTS CHANGED IN 2015 ISH, THAT THERE'S THIS HUGE RISE OF, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE TRANSLATE THAT AND I'LL, I'LL GO BACK. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE SET OF GRANDPARENTS ORIGINALLY FROM LANO THAT THE OTHER ONES ARE BURIED IN PFLUGERVILLE AND IN THE SEVENTIES, THIS WAS WILLIE NELSON, UH, MUSIC, VIDEO COUNTRY, AND ARID. 
          AND WHEN I GOT HERE, I WAS STUNNED HOW MANY PLACES LOOKED LIKE LIMERICK, IRELAND IN TERMS OF THE LAUNCH . 
          AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT THOUGHT PROCESS CAME IN, THAT THAT WAS SUSTAINABLE, BECAUSE YOU, IF YOU'RE IN A COASTAL AREA, YOU BUILD ON PIERS BECAUSE YOU'RE KIND OF FLOWING WITH THE LANDSCAPE. 
          IF YOU'RE IN THE MOUNTAINS, YOU BUILD A CERTAIN WAY. 
          IF YOU GO UP NORTH, YOU DO A BASEMENT. 
          IF YOU'RE HERE, IT NEEDS TO BE MORE AIR. 
          YOU, YOU'VE GOTTA KIND OF GO WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY, THE HIGH AND THE CLIMATE. 
          AND IF YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT, IT JUST, OF COURSE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE SUSTAINABLE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND YOUR ALLERGIES WILL THANK YOU. 
          YES, CORRECT. 
           MINE WILL. 
          YES. 
          GRASS IS TERRIBLE. 
          UM, I WONDER IF WE COULD GET FROM HISTORICAL PRESERVATION, SOME PHOTOS OF THE NATURAL CLIMATE OF LEANDER BEFORE THERE WERE HOUSES AND BUILDINGS ON TOP OF IT TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , IT WAS DRY. 
          YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS WESTERN KIND OF LIKE, I MEAN, LET'S FACE IT, IT WAS A WESTERN LANDSCAPE. 
          IT WAS NOT A TURF GRASS. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, A NOTRE DAME FOOTBALL GAME. 
          SORRY, ROBERT. 
          I HAD THE, IT DIDN'T, IT JUST, IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE A WELL-MANICURED LAWN, UH, HISTORICALLY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, LINDY AND HER OUTREACH TO HOAS, MAYBE SHE CAN WORK WITH BILL. 
          I KNOW HE'S WORKING ON PRESENTATIONS ABOUT, UM, DOING DROUGHT TOLERANT GARDENING. 
          MAYBE HE CAN EXPAND THAT TO ZERO ESCAPING AND GIVE LINDY SOME RESOURCES AND THEY COULD MAYBE GIVE THE HOAS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN DOING ZERO ESCAPING MM-HMM. 
           AND SAYING, HERE'S YOUR HOW TO GUIDE ON HOW TO GET THIS DONE WITH YOUR HOA. 
          SUBMIT SOMETHING TO ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN GET THE PLANS, THIS IS WHAT YOU GET, THAT KIND OF THING. 
          AND JUST WALK 'EM THROUGH IT. 
          I THINK IF WE MAKE IT EASY FOR THEM, IT'LL ENCOURAGE USAGE. 
          AND THE, LET, LET'S, THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, IF YOU LOOK AT ARCH TOPOGRAPHY, AND I THINK WE STILL HAVE ENOUGH UNDEVELOPED LAND TO TAKE SOME GOOD PICTURES. 
          IT'S PRETTY, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PRETTY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT THAT IS AND FLOW WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY. 
          WELL, I KNOW WHERE WE ARE WHEN IT RAINS, WE GROW ROCKS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THE ROCKS GROW. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE THE, THE, THE DIRT WASHES THE WAY. 
          OH, THERE'S MORE ROCKS. 
          IT'S BEAUTIFUL. 
          IT'S NATURAL . 
          SO WE GROW, BY THE WAY, AND, UH, JUST SO COUNCIL KNOWS, WE, UM, I SAY WE, BUT, UM, IN COORDINATION WITH, WITH TY AND LINDY AND BILL TEETER, I THINK WE RECENTLY JUST AT THE LANDER ACTIVITY CENTER HOSTED A GROW A GREEN THUMB COURSE WITH TEXAS AGRO LIVE. 
          OH. 
          WISH. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE DOING MORE OF THOSE. 
          AND WE PROMOTE. 
          UM, AND I KNOW IN THOSE COURSES, AND WITH A LOT OF THE MESSAGING THAT BILL, UH, SHARES WITH EVERYONE, HE COMES IN CONTACT WITH. 
          OUR GROW GREEN GUIDE IS PART OF THAT. 
          UM, IT IS AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          WE LINK TO IT A LOT. 
          UM, SO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, UH, AND LINDY'S GONNA BE TAKING MORE OF THE STRATEGIC APPROACH, HITTING THE H HOA ORGANIZATIONS, HITTING THOSE, UH, BOARD MEMBERS. 
          UM, WE STILL HAVE A MORE THAN YOU THINK NUMBER OF HOAS THAT ARE MANAGED BY THE HOME BUILDER BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL DEVELOPING. 
          AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT CHALLENGE IN GETTING THAT COMMUNICATION TO THE RESIDENTS OF THOSE, UH, ORGANIZATIONS AND THE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS. 
          BUT CERTAINLY BILL HAS ADDED TO HIS PORTFOLIO THAT GROW GREEN GUIDE AND SOME OF THOSE MESSAGING THAT WE HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          AND WE IS ACCESSIBLE REALLY TO ANYBODY THAT COMES TO US. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          AND DO WE HAVE AN ARTIFICIAL TURF ORDINANCE OR RESTRICTION, OR, WE DON'T HAVE A, A PROHIBITION. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT WE DO WANNA TALK TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE PREPARING TO DO IT, TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING IT PROPERLY AND NOT JUST LAYING TURF, YOU KNOW, ON THE LAWN. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S A PREP WORK. 
          IT'S 
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NOT JUST ROLL IT OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO DO, DO THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT FOR A PERMIT FOR THAT? UM, WE DON'T REQUIRE A PERMIT, BUT WE WANNA TALK THROUGH WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          OKAY. 
          WE DON'T GET A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR IT, BUT WE JUST WANT TO TALK TO THEM, TOUCH FACE, HEY, ARE USING A COMPANY? ARE YOU PREPARING THE GROUND FIRST? HOW ARE YOU HANDLING, UM, IF IT'S, UH, PERVIOUS OR NOT? SO IF A COMPANY'S DOING THAT, THEY WOULD KNOW HOW TO PROPERLY INSTALL. 
          YEAH. 
          IF THE COMPANY'S DOING IT FINE, MY HUSBAND, NO. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO I'M GLAD THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP. 
          I WAS HOPING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT ON, UH, ITEM FIVE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE REGULATIONS, BECAUSE THAT'S COME UP A FEW TIMES OVER THIS LAST YEAR. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND THE BELIEF IS THAT PEOPLE CAN'T DO IT AT ALL. 
          SO IF WE COULD DIVE INTO THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          COUNSEL, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON OUR VISION AND MISSION STATEMENTS OR ANYTHING FROM STAFF THAT Y'ALL WANTED TO ADD? DID Y'ALL WANT A TARGET, UH, TIMEFRAME TO BRING THIS BACK TO Y'ALL AFTER WE GET EVERYBODY ELSE'S COMMENTS IN FOR SOME KIND OF ADOPTION? JUST WHILE YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THAT THOUGH, I THINK THAT JUST THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WISE MM-HMM. 
          , I THINK THAT WAS THE NEXT SECTION THAT WE WOULD'VE GONE ON HERE TOO. 
          SPECIFIC AREAS. 
          UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE THINGS I WOULD WANT TO TALK THROUGH THERE. 
          SO AFTER WE'RE DONE TALKING ABOUT THE TIMELINE TO BRING IT BACK, THAT'S JUST ONE THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE CAN DO THAT FIRST IF YOU WANT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, FIRST OFF, IT SAYS REDUCE THE VERY FIRST THING ON HERE. 
          IT SAYS, REDUCE FRICTION, IMPROVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. 
          WHAT FRICTION ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? SIGN NOTES? IS THAT WHAT IT IS? THAT'S WHAT, THAT WAS MY NOTE THAT SAID SIGN. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S PROBABLY OTHERS, BUT, OKAY. 
          WELL, AND GETTING THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS, WHICH I THINK CAMINO WILL ASSIST WITH. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE THAT WAS COMING FROM. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WHAT ELSE? ANYTHING. 
          AND THAT'S SMALL. 
          WELL, THAT'S SMALL BUSINESS ORIENTED, WHICH IS GREAT TOO. 
          BUT AS FAR AS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO ON A BIG SCALE TO LAND, THE BIG ONES THAT WE'RE JUST, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL IN THIS SECTION WITH OUR STRATEGIC FOCUS AREA ON MAKING SURE THAT'S LISTED IN HERE. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          AND I WON'T SAY WHAT TO WRITE IN THERE NECESSARILY. 
          JUST THAT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THIS SECTION. 
          SO SOMETHING WE ARE DOING FOR THAT, UM, FIRST ITEM, UH, SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. 
          IT'S NOT DIRECTLY SMALL BUSINESSES, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, MOM AND POP COME IN AND DO CHANGE OF TENANT AND, UM, IT'S SCARY PROCESS FOR THEM. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING ON MATERIALS AND, UM, BEING MORE, UH, ENGAGED WITH THOSE GROUPS. 
          SO IT'S MORE OF A PHONE CALL THAN AN EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, A HUMAN THAT'S GONNA TALK TO 'EM ABOUT WHAT TO DO. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT, AND ONCE WE GET, UM, OUR MATERIALS PREPARED, WE'RE GONNA SHARE IT WITH THE COUNCIL TO KIND OF SHOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THEM. 
          IT'S, IT'S CLOSER TO AN OMBUDSMAN ROLE IN A WAY. 
          THEY'LL HAVE A HUMAN CONTACT THAT EVEN IF IT'S JUST ANSWERING THE PHONE AND SAYING, HEY, I'LL SET UP A MEETING FOR YOU, OR I'M GONNA CHECK ON THAT FOR YOU. 
          THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE ANSWERS, BUT THEY'LL TELL 'EM, I'M GONNA DO THIS AND GET BACK TO THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU'RE ALREADY DOING SOME OF THAT, RIGHT? WE ARE, IT'S JUST NOT AS REFINED. 
          SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE MORE OF A, A WORKFLOW, SO, UM, WE CAN GIVE 'EM A VISUAL THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          AND IT'S IN ENGLISH INSTEAD OF PLANNER E. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT BEING IN A, I MEAN, I'M SURE IT'LL, YOU'LL HAVE TO TWEAK IT, BUT WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING THOSE MATERIALS? AND I WAS HOPING FOR DECEMBER, SO NOW I'M HOPING FOR FEBRUARY  OF LIKE NEXT MONTH. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS NO, NO. 
          NEXT YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          NEXT MONTH. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S OUR HOPE, CUZ WE REALLY GOTTA GET IT WRAPPED UP. 
          YEAH. 
          PERFECT. 
          SO RICK, ASHLEY'S NOT HERE, BUT JUST ONE THING SPECIFICALLY ON HERE, UM, AS FAR AS LIKE, YOU KNOW, TARGETING THAT'S, THAT'S SO GOOD. 
          COMPANIES WITH A SPECIFIC T OD FOCUS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND I, I THINK THAT, THAT WITH THAT TOO, YEAH. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE THAT YOU'RE GONNA COME TO THE T OD I THINK THAT THE, YEAH. 
          UNDERSTANDING YOU'RE GETTING THE T O D, THE CITY'S PUT THE TURS MONEY IN THE TRAIN'S THERE. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA BUY THE BUILDING FOR YOU. 
          CORRECT. 
          THROUGH ANOTHER INCENTIVE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT. 
          BUT THERE ARE THOSE THAT WOULD LOVE TO BE THERE. 
          NOW, IF YOU GOT THE RIGHT ONES, EVEN THOUGH THE LAND USE WOULD NOT BE A TYPICAL, UH, CAMPUS, YOU ALMOST COULD GET A QUASI URBAN CAMPUS OUT OF IT FROM THE RIGHT USER WITH MULTIPLE BUILDINGS IN THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I THINK THAT WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO GET THAT? AND I DO THINK THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          I JUST THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT AREA GREAT AND WE, WE HAVE SUCH AN INVESTMENT IN THAT AREA, THEN WE NEED TO BE REALLY TARGETED THERE. 
          THAT'S MY ONLY FEEDBACK. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? I'M GOOD WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          LET'S DO THIS. 
          LET'S, UH, TAKE COUNSEL COMMENTS UNTIL FEBRUARY 15TH. 
          I WANNA GIVE THOSE THAT ARE OUT TIME TO HEAL, WATCH THIS AND GET THEIR COMMENTS IN. 
          AND THEN, UM, IF STAFF COULD BRING IT BACK BY THE LAST MEETING OF MARCH. 
          DOES THAT SOUND DOABLE? I THINK THE COMMENTS ARE ALL GONNA BE PRETTY MINOR 
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AND, AND BRING IT, BRING IT BACK BY THE, BY THE SECOND MEETING OF MARCH REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND THEN WE'LL BRING THAT ON MARCH 16TH. 
          YES. 
          SOUND GOOD? YES, MA'AM. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL THEN MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSS THE CITY'S FISCAL YEAR 23 FINANCIAL OUTLOOK DIRECTOR POWERS. 
          I'LL BE HERE. 
          I'LL BE HERE. 
          IER, , GO FORWARD. 
          YOU DON. 
          YEAH. 
          PREACH. 
           ON THE SCREEN. 
          NEED TO BE BEHIND. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS HOUR AND A HALF PRESENTATION IS, UH, SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE PAUL SET IT UP FOR ME. 
          YEAH, IT'S, IT'S ON, CAN YOU HEAR ME? DAN'S PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE IN THE GENERAL, UM, CURRENT YEAR TODAY THROUGH JANUARY. 
          WE'RE FOUR MONTHS INTO THE FISCAL YEAR, SO STILL EARLY. 
          UM, BUT WE HAVE SOME THINGS THAT WE WANT TO, UH, TALK TO YOU ABOUT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA COVER, UM, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN ITEM TWO. 
          UH, WHAT WE PLAN TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND, UH, THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          AND SECTION FOUR IS WHAT, UM, WHAT WE'RE, UM, LOOKING AHEAD TO NEXT FISCAL YEAR, FY 24. 
          AND THEN NUMBER FIVE, YOU CAN THANK OR BLAME MIKE NEW FOR NUMBER FIVE. 
          BUT, UM, HE, HE CAME INTO MY OFFICE A WEEK AGO WHEN I WAS ABOUT TO WORK ON THESE SLIDES AND HE SAID, I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA DO SLIDES ON THE BUDGET. 
          AND THEN HE SAID, BUT, AND THEN HE STOPPED. 
          AND I KNOW WHAT MIKE MEANS WHEN HE SAYS BUTTON, AND THAT MEANS I'M PROBABLY NOT GONNA DO IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO , HE'S, HE TALKED TO ME ABOUT WORKING THIS PRESENTATION. 
          SO THERE'S TIME FOR THE COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT IT ALL MEANS. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY, HOPEFULLY THAT'S THE TAKEAWAY IN THIS SECTION, IS TO GET THROUGH, YES, THE NUMBERS AND THE GRAPHS, BUT HAVE SOME TIME FOR THE COUNCIL TO INTERACT WITH YOURSELVES AND WITH STAFF ON HOW WE USE THE BUDGET TO IMPLEMENT YOUR, YOUR VISION. 
          NOW WE'RE STUCK CUZ HE'S LEFT. 
          OH, HERE WE GO. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T NEED HIM. 
          . 
          SO, CUT TO THE CHASE. 
          UM, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN VERY LONG TIME IN LEANDER, WE'RE PROJECTING A DEFICIT FOR THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          UM, THIS IS THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO, UH, OUT OF A 68 MILLION BUDGET, YOU KNOW, 1.4 MILLION THIS EARLY IN THE YEAR IS NOT, YOU KNOW, CATASTROPHIC, BUT IT'S NOT ANYTHING WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST EIGHT TO 10 YEARS. 
          SO, UM, IT'S ONE REASON WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO HAVE THIS AS ONE OF THE TOPICS AT THIS RETREAT. 
          OOPS. 
          I NEED YOU TO GO BACK. 
          UM, THE DRIVERS ON THE, UH, PROJECTED DEFICIT, AND I I'M GONNA EMPHASIZE PROJECTED IS OUR SALES TAX REVENUES AND DEVELOPMENT RELATED FEES. 
          THE, UM, DEFICIT THERE IS OFFSET SOMEWHAT BY SAVINGS ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, BUT THAT'S PRIMARILY DUE TO STAFFING VACANCY. 
          AND A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THOSE VACANCIES ARE NEW POSITIONS THAT WERE ADDED IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN BEEN FILLED. 
          AND THEN I JUST WANT TO CAVEAT THAT WE'RE STILL EARLY IN THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          WE'RE NOT ALONE. 
          UH, THIS IS JUST A SMATTERING OF THE HEADLINES FROM THE DALLAS FED ON THEIR WEBSITE. 
          UH, GOING BACK, UH, FROM AUGUST 
          [01:20:01]
THROUGH DECEMBER, UH, ALMOST EVERY HEADLINE IN THEIR LEAD INTO THEIR ECONOMIC REPORT WAS, UH, THAT THE TEXAS ECONOMY ECONOMY, UH, WAS SEEING SIGNS OF, OF SLOWING. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A LEANDER ISSUE, BUT CERTAINLY THE GREATER REGIONAL FORCES ARE, ARE IMPACTING SOME OF OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS. 
          UH, SALES TAX. 
          THIS, THIS CHART IS JUST THE TWO MONTHS, OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER COLLECTIONS, UM, LOOKING BACK SINCE 2016. 
          SO IT'S NOT A YEAR A A COMPLETE YEAR OF SALES TAX COLLECTIONS, BUT, UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY NOT KNOW, UM, SALES TAX ACTIVITY IS WE GET THAT CHECK TWO MONTHS LATER. 
          THE BUSINESSES FINISH THE MONTH, THEY PAY THE COMPTROLLER THE FOLLOWING MONTH. 
          COMPTROLLER PAYS THE CITY'S THE FOLLOWING MONTH. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN JANUARY, WE'VE ONLY HAD TWO CHECKS OF SALES TAX COLLECTIONS, OCTOBER ACTIVITY AND NOVEMBER ACTIVITY. 
          AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE, UM, CREATED A LITTLE PAUSE IN OUR, OUR THINKING. 
          UM, UH, OCTOBER, UH, CHECK WAS SLIGHTLY UP ABOUT 3%, BUT THE NOVEMBER CHECK WAS DOWN 8% FROM THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR. 
          UM, TWO MONTHS DOESN'T MAKE A, A TREND, BUT THE TREND OVER THE LAST FOUR TO SIX MONTHS HAS BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, MODERATE, MODERATE, MODERATE GROWTH. 
          UM, BUT ALSO IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS WE'VE HAD TWO NEGATIVE, UH, CHECKS, NEGATIVE BEING LESS THAN THIS TIME LAST YEAR. 
          SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN A, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE SEEN THAT. 
          SO IN A VERY, VERY LONG TIME NOW, NEXT MONTH, THE FEBRUARY CHECK, WHICH WE'LL GET IN TWO WEEKS, REPRESENTS DECEMBER SALES TAX ACTIVITY. 
          THAT IS ACROSS THE, THE BOARD, UH, WITH EVERYONE. 
          THAT'S THE LARGEST CHECK PRETTY MUCH ANY CITY WILL SEE IS THE DEC DECEMBER CHECK. 
          IT REPRESENTS ALL OF THE FILERS, THE SMALL, THE BIG, AND THE MEDIUM. 
          SO, UM, IT'S AN IMPORTANT CHECK FOR US TO, TO SEE. 
          AND THAT WILL TELL US, UM, WHETHER THIS IS, UH, UM, JUST AN ABERRATION OR TELLS US MORE WHERE WE THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GOING. 
          SO WE, WE HAVE THAT BY THE END, BY OUR NEXT MEETING, FEBRUARY OR BY THE END OF FEBRUARY. 
          UH, IT'LL BE AFTER THE FEBRUARY 2ND MEETING. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL KNOW BY THE SECOND MEETING. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AND, AND WE'LL SEND OUT, UH, OR WE SEED MANAGER'S CALL, BUT WE CAN SHARE THAT REPORT WITH YOU, UM, AS SOON AS WE GET IT. 
          UH, IT'S ALWAYS THE SECOND FRIDAY, UH, OF THE, OF THE MONTH. 
          SO, UH, THIS IS A ANNUAL, UH, PRO PROJECT OR ANNUAL HISTORY OF SALES TAX COLLECTIONS GOING BACK, UH, TO 2015. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, OUR CURRENT PROJECTION FOR THE BUDGET YEAR IS A 3% DROP IF THE CURRENT TREND, UH, DOESN'T CHANGE. 
          AND, AND ROBERT'S GONNA GET INTO SOME OF THE POTENTIAL WHY'S, BUT IF YOU LOOK, YOU KNOW, 19, 20, 21 INTO 22, YOU ALSO HAD THE WAYFAIR, UM, AGREEMENT. 
          SO MORE SALES TAXES CREATED POINT OF SALE, YOU KNOW, FOLKS AT HOME WHEN THEY ARE AT HOME. 
          SO THAT WAS HELPING US. 
          BUT WE ALSO HAVE A SINGULAR TAXPAYER THAT COMES INTO PAY TO PLAY ON, UM, IN TERMS OF REPORTING THAT'S STILL NOT RESOLVED. 
          AND THEN ALSO YOU HAVE THE LARGER POTENTIAL DISCRETIONARY PULLBACK FROM FOLKS DUE TO THE BIGGER ECONOMIC IMPACTS AND LAYOFFS AND THINGS THAT ARE STARTING TO HIT THE TECH SIDE, WHICH IS ALSO REFLECTED IN THE, UH, REDUCTION IN THE NEW HOUSING STARTS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UH, DOVETAILING OFF OF, UH, MR. BEVERLY'S COMMENTS, OUR, WE HAVE A SALES TAX CONSULTANT. 
          HE'S, UH, IN THE, IN THE BUSINESS OF PROVIDING, UH, LOTS OF, UH, DATA TO, UH, CITIES IN TEXAS ON THEIR, UH, SALES TAX, 
          [01:25:01]
UM, UH, INFORMATION. 
          UH, JUST AS A DISCLAIMER, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS INDIVIDUAL SALES TAX PAYERS INFORMATION IS CONFIDENTIAL. 
          SO, UH, WE CERTAINLY CAN'T DISCUSS OR, UH, SHARE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES. 
          WE CAN TALK IN THE AGGREGATE ABOUT SALES TAX, BUT, UM, UH, THE INFORMATION, THE ACTUAL SALES TAX PAID BY A, A BUSINESS IS, UM, PROTECTED FOR CONFIDENTIALITY, CONFIDENTIALITY REASONS. 
          BUT THIS CHART, WHICH OUR SALES TAX CONSULTANT CITY BASED NET, UH, PREPARES AND, AND WE HAVE ACCESS TO SHOWS YOU, HE CALLS THE ROLLING 12 MONTH AVERAGE. 
          IT'S, IT'S A HISTORY OF, UH, THE, THE YELLOW, UM, UM, LINE THAT SHOWS A DRAMATIC INCREASE AND THEN IT'S STARTING TO TAPER OFF. 
          THAT IS THE, UM, PREVIOUS 12 MONTHS OF SALES TAX COLLECTION. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY LEANDER HAS, HAS GROWN DRAMATICALLY, BUT YOU CAN SEE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS IT'S STARTING TO PLATEAU AND, AND STARTING TO DIP. 
          NOW THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU WHY THAT IS HAPPENING. 
          THERE'S ONE, UH, CATEGORY OF TAXPAYERS, UH, REPORTING TO THE CITY OF LEANDER. 
          AND THIS INCLUDES COMPANIES THAT DON'T EXIST PHYSICALLY IN, IN LEANDER, BUT REPORT SALES TAX FOR SALES, UH, TO PEOPLE IN LEANDER. 
          BUT MANUFACTURING IS THE ONLY, UH, CATEGORY THAT IS SHOWING A DECREASE FROM, FROM LAST, FROM LAST YEAR. 
          AND THAT GOES TO SOME OF WHAT, UH, IT GOES ALMOST ENTIRELY TO WHAT MR. BEVERLY WAS SAYING IN TERMS OF, UM, A CHANGE IN REPORTING BY A, A LARGE TAXPAYER, UH, A SINGLE USER, RIGHT? YEAH, SINGLE CAP. 
          SO ONE THING WITH THIS CHART THOUGH, NOW WITHIN THE BIG PICTURE, THERE'S SOME GOOD NEWS TOO. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THE GROWTH IN THE RETAIL TRADE, UM, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. 
          I MEAN, GOING BACK TO 18, WE WERE AT LESS THAN 2 MILLION, UH, FROM 19 THROUGH. 
          NOW WE'VE MORE THAN DOUBLED THAT AND WE WE'RE ALMOST A MILLION AHEAD. 
          WE ALSO NOW HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT COMING, THE RADIAL, AGAIN, LEAVE RAIL OUT. 
          WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA DRIVE OUR RETAIL PIECE. 
          WHAT'S GONNA DRIVE IT IS 180 3 A AND THE PROXIMITY OF CEDAR PARK AND THEM FILLING IN, UH, BIG BOX, UH, IS NOT A TRANSIT RELATED, UH, TARGET THERE. 
          THEY JUST, THOSE TWO THINGS DON'T INTERSECT. 
          SO WE DO NEED TO GROW THAT, BUT ALSO GOES BACK TO THE DIVERSIFICATION OF THE, OF THE TAX BASE. 
          WE DO NEED TO HAVE A STRONG AREA WITH APPROPRIATE INFRASTRUCTURE TO CITE AND LAND THOSE, THOSE TYPE OF MANUFACTURING BASED, UH, TAXPAYERS LONG TERM. 
          BUT IF YOU DRIVE DOWN 35, AS THE MAYOR'S MENTIONED ON THE FRONT LAYER, YOU SEE RETAIL BEHIND IT, YOU DON'T SEE APARTMENTS, YOU DON'T SEE HOUSES. 
          WHAT YOU SEE IS CLASS A TILT WALL COMING UP MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND I THINK THAT, AGAIN, THAT DIVERSIFICATION, IF IF WE'RE TEXT BEDROOM AND WE CAN'T CAPTURE THOSE DOLLARS AND WE CAN'T CAPTURE THE, A VALOR OR THE POINT OF SALE FROM BIG MANUFACTURING TYPE USERS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THERE LONG TERM. 
          SO IT ALSO SHOWS THAT, AND I HATE TO USE THE TERM, BUT IT IS, IT'S KIND OF A BIT OF A PONZI SCHEME. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT RESIDENTIAL, UH, TILTED DEVELOPMENT, IT WORKS AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, ANY PONZI SCHEME WORKS AS LONG AS YOU'RE ADDING TO IT. 
          AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THAT CONSTANT RACE OF CAN YOU KEEP YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE UP FAST ENOUGH TO KEEP IT GOING. 
          BUT IF YOU HIT ANY BLIP WHEN YOU'RE TIED REALLY TO ONE INDUSTRY OR TO ONE SINGLE GROWTH AREA, THEN YOU GOT A PROBLEM. 
          AND I THINK THAT THIS, THIS EXPOSES THAT PROBABLY AS MUCH AS ANYTHING I, ROBERT WILL GET INTO THE FEES, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A DIVERSIFIED, UH, COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL BASE, NOT JUST ONE THING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND WE NEED TO HAVE A, UH, DIVERSITY OF OTHER THINGS PAYING IN OTHER THAN PERMIT FEES FOR NEW HOUSING STOCK. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND HERE'S THE OTHER, SO IF WE WERE 
          [01:30:01]
JUST HAVING THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT SALES TAX, I, I WOULD NOT HAVE, UH, CONCERNS THIS EARLY IN THE, IN THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT WHEN, WHEN COMBINED WITH WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF MONTHS, UH, FIRST FOUR MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR ON DEVELOPMENT PERMITTING FEES, UH, THAT THAT COMBINATION DOES GIVE, UH, US PAUSE AND THAT WE NEED TO START TAKING SOME, UH, BUDGETARY, UH, STEPS TO, TO MAKE SURE WE END THE YEAR IN A, IN A, IN A POSITIVE, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT, UH, ANNUAL REVENUE NUMBERS. 
          IT'S JUST COMPARING, UH, THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS OF EACH FISCAL YEAR SINCE 2020 COMPARED TO THE, THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS OF, OF THIS YEAR. 
          AND, UM, LOTS OF REASONS WHY DEVELOPMENT IS, UM, IS A SEESAW AND A AND A YO AND A YO-YO. 
          SO AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THE, THE INSIGHT TO KNOW IF, IF THE, IF THIS IS A TREND THAT IS A NOSE DIVE OR WHETHER IT WILL, YOU KNOW, LEVEL OUT AND START TO, TO TO RISE. 
          BUT, UH, AGAIN, FOUR MONTHS INTO THE FISCAL YEAR, UH, COMBINED WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE SALES TAX SIDE TELLS US THAT WE NEED TO TAKE SOME, SOME BUDGETARY, UM, UH, STEPS. 
          AND, AND THE OTHER THING I'D ADD IS THAT IS NOT A FUNCTION OF, OF ENTITLEMENTS YOU WILL SEE IN THE SEPARATE PRESENTATION ON WATER. 
          IT'S NOT THE ENTITLEMENTS. 
          WE HAVE PLENTY OF ENTITLEMENTS IT'S MARKET AND THAT THE EXPECTATION THAT WE COULD MAINTAIN YEAR OVER YEAR OVER YEAR AND ALSO STILL BUILD THE WATER AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE AND ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE FAST ENOUGH, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER CHALLENGE. 
          BUT OUR IMMEDIATE CHALLENGE IS CAN WE, IN A, IN A SLIDING OVERALL ECONOMY, CAN WE ALSO BUILD THAT RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL PIECE BECAUSE IT PHYSICALLY, LITERALLY JUST IS REACHING OUR BORDERS AS THE LARGER REGIONAL AND NATIONAL ISSUES ARE HAPPENING. 
          MR. POWERS, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          YES. 
          USUALLY EVERY YEAR AT BUDGET SEASON, YOU'RE TALKING TO US ABOUT YOUR METHODOLOGY AND HOW YOU, UM, ASSUME LOWER ON INCOME AND HIGHER ON EXPENDITURES TO HAVE THAT, THAT BUFFER WITH THIS ARE LIKE, WHAT IS YOUR, YOUR THEORETICAL APPROACH HERE? LIKE, IS THIS WORST CASE SCENARIO OR ACTUAL, OR ROSIE IT IT IS NOT WORST CASE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE, UM, THE, THE SALES TAX DEFICIT OF, OF, UM, UNDER BUDGET BY A MILLION DOLLARS IS ASSUMES THAT THINGS DON'T GET WORSE. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S THAT WE END UP 3% LESS THAN WE DID LAST YEAR. 
          UM, NEXT MONTH, WE'LL, WE WILL BE A TELLING NUMBER FOR US. 
          UM, NOW AGAIN, WE SHOWED YOU IT'S ONE SECTOR. 
          UH, EVERYTHING ELSE IN THOSE CATEGORIES IS, IS UP ON A MONTHLY BASIS. 
          SO, UM, IF, IF IT STAY, IF THAT SECTOR STAYS, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVE, WE KIND OF KNOW BASED ON LAST YEAR WHAT THE, WHAT THAT DELTA WILL WILL BE. 
          SO, UH, AT THIS POINT I DON'T THINK, UM, IT WOULD BE MUCH FURTHER OFF FROM MINUS THREE, BUT IT COULD BE OKAY ON THE, ON THE PERMIT SIDE, UM, UH, I'M NOT GONNA PUT ROBIN ON THE SPOT CUZ YOU KNOW, SHE'LL STEAL ALL MY THUNDER. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS ALMOST CAN CHANGE OVERNIGHT. 
          A COUPLE OF MULTI-FAMILY PERMITS THAT, THAT GET THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEY ACTUALLY PAY THEIR FEE. 
          THERE'S TONS THERE. 
          THOSE ARE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT CHANGES THAT GRAPH, YOU KNOW, ALMOST INSTANTLY. 
          UM, IT IS THE, UH, I DEFER TO COUNCILMAN CERNIK ON, ON THE, THE CYCLE OF HOME BUILDING. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT, UH, THE FALL AND THE WINTER THINGS SLOW DOWN. 
          WE'VE SEEN THAT HISTORICALLY IN TERMS OF, UH, FEES. 
          SO SPRING, SUMMER, I, I CAN'T PREDICT WHAT THOSE REVENUES WILL BE, BUT AGAIN, IN THE, IN YEARS PAST WE'VE HAD SO MANY, UM, REVENUES THAT WERE EXCEEDING BUDGET, THAT INDIVIDUAL DIPS IN A, IN A AREA DIDN'T CAUSE 
          [01:35:01]
US CONCERN CUZ IT WAS BEING MADE UP EITHER IN DEVELOPMENT FEES, UH, SALES TAX. 
          UM, NOW PROPERTY TAXES ARE HALF HALF OF OUR BUDGET AND THERE'S NO CONCERN THERE THAT IS, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, BASED ON A SOLID NUMBER AND OUR DELINQUENT, I MEAN, 95% OF HAVE ALREADY PAID BY THE END OF JANUARY. 
          SO THAT'S LOCKED IN THE, IN THE BANK. 
          THANK YOU TO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, ALRIGHT, UM, WE'LL MOVE ON. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THIS, AGAIN, THIS IS THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET, NO SURPRISE, BUT 58% OF OUR, OUR BUDGET IS RELATED TO, UM, PHYSICIANS, PEOPLE SALARY, BENEFIT TAXES, UM, HEALTH INSURANCE, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          AND THE OTHER 42%, UH, IS EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE ESTIMATE. 
          NEXT SLIDE IS, AND WE'RE TRACKING ALONG FAIRLY WELL IN THE, ACCORDING TO TO BUDGET, WE ACTUALLY ARE TRACKING TO BE SLIGHTLY UNDER BUDGET, WHICH IS USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS. 
          UH, AND, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE, UM, ESTIMATED, UH, SAVINGS ON THE BUDGET IS RELATED TO, UH, BUDGETED BUT UNFILLED POSITIONS TO DATE. 
          HERE'S A, UM, CHART THAT SHOWS SOME OF THE LARGER DEPARTMENTS, UH, IN THE GENERAL FUND AND HOW THEY COMPARE TO THE POSITIONS THEY WERE BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR. 
          AND THEN THE, UM, THE GREEN BAR REPRESENTS, UH, THE NUMBER OF FILLED POSITIONS AS OF LAST WEEK WHEN, WHEN I RAN THIS, UM, UH, COLLECTED THE DATA. 
          UM, NOW ROBERT, YOU SAID GREEN BAR FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE COLORBLIND, , THOSE ARE ALL GREEN BARS. 
          OKAY. 
          THE TOP TOUGHER. 
          OKAY. 
          THE TOUGH ONE. 
          ACTUALLY, I CUT MY TEETH ON GREEN BAR, THAT'S WHERE I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING, BUT, UH, THAT WAS GUINNESS. 
          UM, BUT, UH, I, I WILL, UH, DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE 1, 2, 3, UH, FOURTH ROW DOWN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, UM, OR WHAT IS IT CORRECT, 20 SOMETHING VACANCIES, UH, OF UNFILLED POSITIONS. 
          BUT, UH, HALF OF THOSE, UH, ARE NEW POSITIONS THAT WERE, WERE BUDGETED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          SO IF YOU COMPARE, UM, WHERE THEY ARE TODAY COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, IT'S NOT AS, UM, THEY'RE ACTUALLY AHEAD. 
          YEAH, NO, THEY'RE STILL BEHIND, BUT IT'S NOT AS BAD AS THE, IF THEY COMPARE ACTUAL TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGETED, THEY'RE STILL DOWN FROM WHAT THEY WERE BUDGETED LAST YEAR. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT I WAS THINKING IN TERMS OF, OF TACKLING FIRST THE UNFILLED FROM LAST YEAR, UH, THAT WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS ON THE ACADEMY SIDE AND CHIEF CAN GET INTO THAT TOO. 
          BUT WE, WE'VE, UH, YOU KNOW, EVEN PAY THAT, THAT ALONE, UH, YOU'RE ALSO HAVING IN CERTAIN DISCIPLINES, UH, IT'S HARD TO ENCOURAGE, UH, FOLKS TO, UH, PURSUE CERTAIN DISCIPLINES IN TERMS OF, UH, CAREER RIGHT NOW. 
          AND IT'S NOT JUST IN POLICE AND FIRE, BUT IN SOME OF THE OTHERS, UH, PLANNING, UH, SOME OF OUR, WE'VE DONE PRETTY WELL, BUT SOME OF OUR PEERS HAVE HAD PEER CITIES HAVE HAD A LOT OF TROUBLE, UH, RECRUITING FOLKS TO, UH, TO THEIR CITIES OR TO STAY. 
          SO IT, IT IS A, A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT WORLD POST, UH, COVID IN TERMS OF THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, UM, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? UH, AGAIN, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, THE, THE DEFICIT REPRESENTS, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN TWO AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE TOTAL BUDGET, UH, EVEN BEFORE TODAY. 
          BUT, AND CERTAINLY GOING FORWARD, STAFF WILL MONITOR THE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES, UH, EVEN MORE CLOSELY THAN, THAN WE HISTORICALLY DO. 
          BUT, UH, WE, WE DO MONITOR EVERYTHING, UH, MONTHLY AND SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE, THE TABLE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER. 
          AND, AND, UH, I BELIEVE THIS IS NO SURPRISE TO THE, THE, THE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL, BUT, UH, WE WILL PAY FOR ANY LINE ITEM BUDGET OVERRUN WITH SAVINGS ELSEWHERE. 
          AND WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT 
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IN, IN THE PAST, WITH AS MUCH GROWTH AS THAT, UH, WE'VE EXPERIENCED, THERE WAS ALWAYS SOME CATEGORY IN A, IN A DEPARTMENT WHERE WHAT WAS BUDGETED WASN'T SUFFICIENT TO, TO, UM, GET THE JOB DONE, YOU KNOW, OR, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH. 
          UH, OR SOMETHING ELSE CAME UP THAT WAS, WAS NEEDED. 
          AND THERE WAS ALWAYS, UM, SOMEWHERE IN THE BUDGET ROOM TO COVER THAT OVERRUN. 
          YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T A FREE FOR ALL. 
          WE, WE MADE SURE THAT WE, UM, HAD THE, THE FUNDS TO COVER ANY, UH, UH, OVERRUN. 
          BUT I THINK THE DEPARTMENTS MAY HAVE GOTTEN USED TO ME WHEN THEY WOULD CALL ME AND SAY, HEY, THIS, THIS HAPPENED, HAPPENED. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, CAN WE, CAN WE DO IT? UH, OR THIS CAME IN MORE THAN WE BUDGETED, CAN WE DO IT? AND MY TYPICAL ANSWER, UM, WAS, WE'LL, WE'LL COVER IT. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL, WHEN WE DO THE NEXT BUDGET AMENDMENT, UM, WE'VE GOT SUFFICIENT INCREASES IN IN REVENUES OR SAVINGS ELSEWHERE TO, TO COVER IT, GO, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS YOU GOT APPROVAL FROM THE CITY MANAGER OR THE CITY COUNCIL TO GET THAT PROJECT DONE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO IT. 
          WE NEED TO TAKE A SLOWER APPROACH NOW BECAUSE IT'S NOT OBVIOUS TO ME THAT THERE'S ANY SURPLUS REVENUE. 
          SO, UM, WHEN DEPARTMENTS SAY THEY BUDGETED, YOU KNOW, $200,000 FOR, UH, UH, X PROJECT AND IT CAME IN AT TWO 30 AND WE WANT TO TAKE IT TO COUNCIL, WE HAVE TO STOP AND SAY, WE NEED TO FIND THAT 30 BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO COUNCIL. 
          AND SO THAT TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME THAN, THAN, UM, IT USED TO, BUT THAT'S THE PRUDENT THING TO DO. 
          UM, AND ROBERT, LET ME, LET ME THROW IN ONE THING I'VE EMPHASIZED WITH DIRECTORS, AND I'D LIKE TO WITH STAFF IN GENERAL IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS THE PUBLIC'S MONEY AT THE END OF THE DAY. 
          SO, UH, YES, I'VE WORKED IN PLACES WHERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, BE IT A HURRICANE, BE IT A DOWNTURN, UM, THE BUBBLE 2010 OR, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTION TO NASA, U T M B, THOSE THAT, WITH THOSE THINGS IN MIND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN YOUR LEVEL OF, UH, LET'S SAY HEALTHCARE, WHICH IS GOOD, OR YOU WANT POTENTIAL, UH, COLAS IN THE NEXT BUDGET, THEN YOU HAVE TO BE VERY JUDICIOUS WITH THE PUBLIC'S MONEY. 
          SO JUST IN GENERAL, UH, THINGS LIKE OUT-OF-STATE TRAVEL, UNLESS THERE'S AN OVERRIDING REASON FOR HOLDING CERTIFICATIONS, UH, MY GENERAL APPROACH IS, YOU KNOW, TEXAS IS BIG. 
          IF YOU CAN GET IT HERE, DRIVE TO IT, UH, ATTEND IT, AND MAYBE NOT SEND FOUR PEOPLE, BUT SEND TWO PEOPLE AND YOU DRIVE NOT FLY. 
          UH, AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THOSE, THOSE BUDGET LINE ITEMS. UH, I KNOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE BUDGETED, BUT SINCE WE'VE GOT A POTENTIAL NEGATIVE, WE NEED THOSE DISCRETIONARY ITEMS THAT ARE COMMON SENSE NEED TO COME IN UNDER BUDGET. 
          AND, AND, AND A PERFECT WORLD, I'D LOVE TO SEE ALL OF THOSE FOR EACH DEPARTMENT BE WELL UNDER 50% OF WHAT'S APPROVED BECAUSE WE'VE GOT IT. 
          OTHERWISE IT'S DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS. 
          AND WE DON'T WANT TO COME BACK TO Y'ALL AND SAY, WELL, THREE DEPARTMENTS SENT PEOPLE OUTTA STATE AND IT WAS 5,000 A PIECE. 
          AND UM, NOW WE'RE COMING TO YOU TO, TO SAY, WELL, WE NEED A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND COME HAVE IT COME OUTTA SAVINGS. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S NOT GOOD BUSINESS. 
          AND SO, UM, I'M ASKING EVERYBODY TO DIG A LITTLE DEEPER EVEN ON THINGS LIKE TAKE HOME VEHICLES, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE EXPAND TAKE HOME FOR MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS TO EXTENDED DISTANCES, YES, IT COULD BE SEEN AS A RECRUITING TOOL, BUT YOU'RE INCREASING THE WEAR AND TEAR ON VEHICLES. 
          AND, AND THAT INCLUDES THE FIRST RESPONDER SIDE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, GREG AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BILLY AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS, UM, TRADITIONALLY TAKE HOME VEHICLES WHERE, SO THERE IS A PRESENCE IN THAT COMMUNITY WHERE FOLKS LIVE, BY THE WAY, WOULD WANNA GIVE KUDOS TO PD. 
          THEY'RE ONE OF THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGES OF, OF DEPARTMENTS LIVING INSIDE LEANDER. 
          WOW. 
          BUT THE, THE FLIP SIDE IS IF WE EXPAND THAT, LET'S SAY AT A 25, 50 MILES, YOUR ONE OUTSIDE RESPONSE TIME, AND YOU'RE ALSO NOT SEEING THOSE VEHICLES IN LEANDER DRIVEWAYS. 
          YEAH. 
          PLUS YOU'RE O AND M, YOU'RE NOT JUST PAYING THE O AND M ON LOCAL WHEN THEY'RE ON PATROL, IT'S A COMMUTER COST AND, AND THE CITY'S THEN PAYING THE, THE GAS. 
          SO I, I DO THINK EVERY SINGLE THING WE DO OVER THE NEXT NINE MONTHS, EIGHT MONTHS IS GONNA COUNT ON 
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THAT NUMBER. 
          YES. 
          WE'RE STILL PURSUING THE ISSUE WITH THE OTHER TAXPAYER. 
          UH, ROBERT, IF I'M NOT, IF I'M CORRECT, WE'D BE STILL SLIGHTLY POSITIVE IF SINGLE TAXPAYER WAS THERE ACTUALLY ON SALES TAX, CORRECT? YES. 
          YES. 
          SO WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE POSITIVE WITHOUT THAT. 
          THE OTHER PIECE, THE GLOBAL PIECE, THE INTEREST RATE, THE SLOWING OF THE HOUSING STARTS AND FEES, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE. 
          AND, AND THE MAYORS TOUCHED ON THAT. 
          THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS WE CAN CONTROL AS A STAFF. 
          I HAVE THE EXPECTATION WE CONTROL WHAT WE CAN CONTROL. 
          JUST ONE COMMENT THERE, CUZ I A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE TOO, THAT IF THERE ARE, UM, CONVENTIONS, TRIPS, WHATEVER, THAT IN THE LONG RUN WE'LL BENEFIT OUR CITY MORE. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THOSE AND, AND YEAH, I THINK SPECIFICALLY TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY THAT IS, THAT IS, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING AND IF WE ARE SHUFFLING SOME MONEY AROUND THERE THAT WE'RE, I, I WANT TO BE VERY GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR MONEY, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO TO BE WHERE WE'RE COUNTING PAPERCLIPS AND NO, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT. 
          AND BIG OPPORTUNITIES ARE NOT, ARE MISSED BECAUSE WE WERE TOO BUSY SAVING 50 CENTS. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY THAT IS, THAT IS THE ONE DEPARTMENT WHERE I'M EXPECTING THEM TO PROBABLY USE ALL THEIR BUDGET BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CAPTURE THOSE THINGS THAT PAY FOR EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE USING IT FOR THE RIGHT THINGS, BUT OKAY. 
          AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE GOING AS PRODUCTIVE. 
          YEARS AGO, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT USED TO GO TO A BIG, UH, CONVENTION IN VEGAS AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WERE EVER GETTING ANYTHING FROM THAT. 
          AND IT WAS KIND OF KNOWN THAT THAT WAS WHERE EVERYBODY WOULD PARTY IS AT THIS CONVENTION AND ASHLEY'S NOT DOING THAT. 
          UM, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CONVENTIONS WE GO TO, ARE WE GETTING SOMETHING OUT OF IT? AND IF WE'RE GETTING SOMETHING YEAH. 
          WHAT'S THE RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT? EXACTLY. 
          WHAT IS OUR ROI? LIKE, I THINK, I THINK THE ONE YOU MENTIONED LAST YEAR WAS GREAT, GOOD CONTACTS. 
          UM, I HAVE, UM, A QUICK ASK MR. POWERS, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, HOLDING THINGS BACK FROM COMING TO COUNCIL BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MONEY. 
          UM, WHEN Y'ALL DO THAT, IS IT OKAY TO JUST NOTIFY US, LIKE IN OUR FYI OR SOMETHING MM-HMM. 
           AND JUST LET US KNOW, HEY, WE'RE WORKING ON THIS, BUT IT'S NOT BUDGETED BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHERE THOSE PROJECTS ARE AND THAT IT'S ON OUR RADAR AND WE'RE NOT SURPRISED DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, THE STREET RESURFACING PROGRAM DIDN'T HAPPEN THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          WE WILL THANK YOU. 
          WE WILL, WE WILL. 
          UH, I'LL TRY TO, EVEN IN THE, UH, WEEKLYS, UM, IT MAY BE MORE OF A QUARTERLY UPDATE, BUT IF WE KNOW SOMETHING'S COMING PER DEPARTMENT, WE'LL WE'LL, UH, OR WE'RE AT LEAST DELAYING IT SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE NOT GONNA BID THIS YET BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY WE NEED TO, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, MASSAGE THE, THE ACTUAL, UH, BID AGAIN TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THE, THE ONE UPSIDE IS WE'RE HOPING SOME OF THE BIDS ARE GONNA COME IN LOWER. 
          SO THAT'LL ALSO, IF WE CAN GET SOME NET SAVINGS ACROSS THE BOARD, THEN THAT WILL DEFINITELY HELP US. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ON, ON THIS SLIDE. 
          IT'S SPEAKING, UH, THE, THE MAYORS COME IN. 
          I DO WANNA 0.1 THAT, UH, YOU, YOU VERY LIKELY WILL SEE, AND THAT IS, UM, WHEN, WHEN WE, UH, BID THE ROADWAY REHAB PROGRAM, UH, TYPICALLY THAT'S 2 MILLION PLUS, UM, SCOPE EACH, EACH YEAR. 
          UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO BID THAT WITH ALTERNATES TO IF WE NEED TO, UH, TO REDUCE THE SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT. 
          BUT THAT IS TO GO OUT TO BID IN APRIL. 
          APRIL. 
          SO WE'LL KNOW MORE IN APRIL OF ABOUT WHETHER WE NEED TO PULL THAT, THAT LEVER. 
          BUT THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO, TWO PLUS MILLION DOLLAR LINE ITEM THAT IF WE HAVE TO MM-HMM. 
          , UM, AND I, I'M HOPING WE DON'T HAVE TO TO DO THAT, BUT IF IT, IF IT, IF THAT MEANS FIX LESS ROADS, THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, IT'S NOT A GOOD THING. 
          SO. 
          WELL, AND THEN YOU END UP, IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE CUZ YOU HAVE TO DO MORE WORK. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BALANCE FOR SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, BUT, UH, I'M, I'M NOT PULLING THE, THE FIRE ALARM JUST YET. 
          UH, WE JUST WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE SEEING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, ANYWAY, SO A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD NEWS. 
          OH, LET ME BACK UP. 
          JESUS CUZ I JUST NEED TO GO ON THE RECORD. 
          SO I ACTUALLY WILL BE IN VEGAS IN TWO WEEKS, BUT  IT'S VACATION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, KEEP US INFORMED. 
          NO, JUST, UH, I DO NOT NOT HAVE ANY SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS. 
          , MY WIFE IS PAYING FOR IT, SO THERE ARE NO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, BUT IF HE DOES REALLY WELL, HE MIGHT SUBSIDIZE THE CITY THROUGH THE REST OF THIS . 
          ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          SO BEFORE YOU MOVE ON 
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FROM THIS SLIDE, UM, I SEE THAT YOU HAVE ON THERE HOLD SELECTED VACANCIES OPEN IN OUR MONTHLY REPORTS. 
          CAN WE GET THAT ADDED OF JUST WHAT VACANCIES THERE ARE IN THE CITY THAT ARE JUST UNFILLED SO WE CAN STILL KIND OF MONITOR WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE AND KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF PARKS IS NOT FILLING ANYTHING, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT LIKE WHY ISN'T PARKS DOING STUFF , YOU KNOW? YEAH. 
          AND WE HAVE, UM, ACTUALLY WE HAVE TWO SIGNIFICANT POSITIONS THAT WE ARE GONNA MAKE OFFERS ON TOO. 
          SO I'LL, I'LL UPDATE Y'ALL ON THOSE FAIRLY SOON WHEN FOLKS HAVE TO. 
          ALSO, WE HAVE TO TIME THAT WHEN THEY CAN NOTIFY THEIR EMPLOYERS TOO, SO, OKAY, SURE. 
          UM, BUT YES, THERE'S, THERE ARE SOME VACANCIES THAT WE CAN HOLD OR WE CAN DELAY. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET NINE MONTHS OR EIGHT MONTHS OUT OF SAVINGS OUT OF THAT YEAR, THAT CAN HELP US, UH, IF IT'S WITHIN REASON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I HAVE ONE MORE ASK MM-HMM. 
          , UM, EVERY YEAR AT BUDGET SEASON, WHEN WE GET THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WE'VE GOT THE, UM, THE ACTUAL AND THE YEAR TO DATE. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE FOR COUNSEL TO, UM, GET A COPY OF WHERE WE'RE AT CURRENTLY, JUST SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE, UM, I KNOW LIKE, UM, THE GOLF COURSE HAS HAD TREMENDOUS CORRECT UPTICK IN FUNDING. 
          I WANNA KIND OF SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING IN THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND JUST, WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO SEE THAT? UM, MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY? QUARTERLY. 
          I THINK QUARTERLY WOULD BE FINE. 
          OR EVEN JUST MY ASK WAS JUST GONNA BE A ONE-OFF OF WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. 
          THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GIVING YOU THIS IDEA. 
          BUT IF YOU WANTED TO DO IT QUARTERLY, I'M NOT GONNA SAY NO. 
          UH, IT, IT, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HURT DOING IT QUARTERLY, UH, IN THE UPDATES. 
          JUST AS LONG AS ROBERT DOESN'T, UH, DOESN'T CREATE MORE, I DON'T, YEAH, I DON'T WANNA OVERBURDEN YOU. 
          I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SEE THE DATA BEHIND THIS. 
          IT DIDN'T, AND FOR ME, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A, A WORKSHOP ITEM. 
          IT'S MORE OF A NO, JUST AN EMAIL. 
          AN EMAIL. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          ADD IT TO THE FY KIND OF THING. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, SO A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD NEWS JUST LOOKING AHEAD TO, TO THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR. 
          THIS GRAPH SHOWS YOU, UM, WHERE THE NUMBERS WERE LAST YEAR WHEN, UH, WE'VE GOT THE, UH, APPRAISALS FROM TRAVIS AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY ON THE LEFT. 
          THE BAR REPRESENTS WHAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT'S, UH, THE VALUES, UH, OF THE MARKET VALUE. 
          AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THE TAXABLE VALUE IS NOT ALWAYS THE MARKET VALUE. 
          SO, UM, THE, THE LEFT SH SHOWS YOU THE MARKET VALUE OF ALL THE PROPERTIES IN LEANDER, AND THEN THE MIDDLE, UH, COLUMN REPRESENTS WHAT WAS ACTUALLY CERTIFIED AS TAXABLE. 
          NOW THE DIFFERENCE, AND THIS IS ALL GROSS, THE DIFFERENCE IS ALMOST 4 BILLION BETWEEN THE MARKET VALUE OF ALL THE PROPERTY AND THE TAXABLE VALUE OF ALL THE PROPERTY. 
          NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT NEXT YEAR WE'RE GONNA GET ALL OF THAT, UH, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE ON THE TABLE, SO TO SPEAK, IN TERMS OF EVEN IF NOTHING ELSE HAPPENED BETWEEN NOW AND, AND, AND THE END OF THE YEAR IN TERMS OF, OF GROWTH. 
          BUT, UH, SO THEY'RE GOING INTO NEXT YEAR, AT LEAST FOR THE TAX BASE, PROPERTY TAX BASE, I THINK WE'RE IN REALLY GOOD, GOOD POSITION. 
          SO THAT'S JUST A ONE YEAR LOOK. 
          SO ONE, ONE THING THAT ROBERT'S SAYING IS THAT IT'S IN A SHORTER TIMEFRAME. 
          IT'S KINDA LIKE WATER. 
          WE DO SEE WHERE THERE'S IMPROVEMENTS COMING EVEN WITH SOME OF THESE SHORT TERM BLIPS. 
          UM, THAT BEING SAID, HIS NEXT SLIDES, I WAS GONNA SAY ARE CRITICAL ON BUILDING THE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABLE PIECE ON THE SALES TAX AND COMMERCIAL SIDE. 
          AND I THINK IT'S VERY TELLING WHY WE'RE NOT AS RESILIENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE NEXT SLIDES. 
          UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T BUILD A AND SUSTAIN A CITY OFF OF ROOFTOPS APARTMENTS AND, UH, DRIVE-THROUGHS. 
          SO I THINK THIS IS VERY TELLING, UH, THIS CHART JUST SHOWS YOU, UM, OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES, THEIR POPULATION, WHICH ARE THE BAR CHARTS, AND THEN THE, THE YELLOW LINE ACROSS IS THE AVERAGE VALUE PER TAX BASE PER CAPITA OF THE OTHER CITIES. 
          SO, UH, LANDS RIGHT UP THERE WITH OUR, WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, UM, IN TERMS OF TAX BASE PER CAPITA ACCORDING TO THE CENSUS OF 2021 LAST YEAR. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, REPRESENTS THE, UH, MAJOR, UH, PROPERTY TAX CATEGORIES OF OUR, OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          UH, OF COURSE EVERYONE IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY REPRESENTS MORE THAN 50% OF THE TOTAL VALUE IN TOTAL 
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MARKET VALUE IN THESE COMMUNITIES. 
          AND LEANDER AND HUK ARE ABOVE 70% COMPARED TO OUR, UM, OTHER, OTHER CITIES. 
          THEN YOU, YOU CAN SEE MULTI-FAMILY, UM, IN TERMS OF PERCENT OF THE TOTAL VALUE WERE ACTUALLY ON THE, ON THE LOW SIDE IS A PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL VALUE MM-HMM. 
          , BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO ON THE LOW SIDE WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, UH, TAX BASE AS A PERCENTAGE OF YOUR TOTAL VALUE. 
          SO IF, YOU KNOW, WE PEGGED OUR, THE STEP PLANS TO THE 2022 OF ROUND ROCK. 
          AND SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY, WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS LESS DEPENDENCE ON YOUR SINGLE FAMILY AND OBVIOUSLY MORE OF THAT BURDEN GOING ON YOUR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL. 
          AND YES, YOU CAN HAVE THE MULTIFAMILY BE A LARGER PIECE OF IT LONG TERM, BUT CAN YOU SUSTAIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ALL YOUR RESIDENTIAL COMING THAT FAST? I MEAN, WE ARE KIND OF THE POSTER CHILD RIGHT NOW OF WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE AND IF WE'RE GONNA SUSTAIN LONG TERM THE SALARIES, COMPETITIVENESS, THE QUALITY OF LIFE, WE NEED THOSE OTHER PIECES. 
          THIS IS LIKE THE MOST IMPORTANT SLIDE I'VE SEEN THAT, THAT IS A GOOD PICTURE. 
          THEY'RE NOT ALL IMPORTANT. 
          WELL, NO, I JUST MEAN THE THAT'S A VERY CLEAR VISUAL OF DISPROPORTIONATE. 
          YEAH. 
          THE EASY TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS VERSUS THAT. 
          WELL, IT'S RIGHT THERE. 
          THIS ONE'S EVEN WORSE BECAUSE THIS SHOWS HOW MUCH, UM, HOW MUCH OUR PARTNERS ARE CAPTURING VERSUS WHAT WE'RE CAPTURING OR BLEEDING TO OTHERS. 
          SO ROBERT, YES. 
          SO THIS IS A REP COMPARES US ON, ON SALES TAX COMPARED TO OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          AND ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE THE 2%, UM, LOCAL SALES TAX. 
          SO WE HAVE THE 1%, BUT THE BARS COLUMNS SHOW THE ABSOLUTE, UH, DOLLAR VALUE OF, OF THAT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, CEDAR PARK'S 2% BRINGS IN A LITTLE OVER 40 MILLION ROUND ROCK, BRINGS IN CLOSE TO 120 MILLION IN SALES TAX. 
          UM, AND WE'RE DOWN IN THE 10 TO 11 MILLION, UM, WITH OUR 1%. 
          THE LINE THAT, UH, GOES UP AND DOWN IS THE SALES TAX PER CAPITA. 
          SO, UH, UH, WE'RE EQUIVALENT TO THE CITY OF HUK ON A PER CAPITA BASIS, BUT QUITE A BIT BELOW OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          SO ROBERT, I THINK THE ONE THING THAT IS KIND OF TELLING FROM THOSE BARS, AND IF I'M RIGHT, THE BLUE BARS ARE GOING WITH THE CORRESPONDING ON THE RIGHT, THE ZERO 500. 
          CORRECT. 
          NOW THEY'RE GOING ON THE LEFT, THE MILLIONS OF, OKAY, SO BUT THE, OKAY, THE YELLOW ONE IS FOLLOWING THE OTHER. 
          SO YEAH, IF, IF WE'RE CAPTURING WHAT THAT MEANS IS PER CAP, PER CAPITA, PER PERSON THAT LIVES HERE, THE CAPTURE OF SALES TAX IS WHAT, 150 PER CAPITA? YES. 
          VERSUS, YEAH, THAT GOES BACK TO THAT LARGER TABLE, THE STATEWIDE TABLE WHERE WE RANK, YOU KNOW, UP IN THE HIGH FIVES OUTTA 700 AND THEN AGAIN TO COMPARE TO ROUND ROCK FOR EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD IN THE TOWN, THEY'RE CAPTURING ALMOST 450 PER PERSON. 
          SO THAT'S A $300 PER PERSON DELTA ON SALES TAX CAPTURE. 
          WELL ALSO, EVEN IF WE HAD THAT EXTRA PENNY, I MEAN, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS DOUBLING WHAT WE HAVE, IT'S STILL, YOU'RE STILL LESS THAN A HALF WHAT CEDAR PARK IS. 
          I MEAN THAT'S A, THAT'S A HUGE COMPARISON TO UNDERSTAND THE WHY THEY HAVE THAT, AND WE DON'T. 
          THAT GOES BACK TO THE, INSTEAD OF WE NEED FOUR HEBS, NOT TWO RIGHT. 
          TO HAVE THE SAME ECONOMIC IMPACT AT THE GENERAL FUND LEVEL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, UH, NOW TO GET TO, UH, WHAT, WHAT MIKE WANTED THIS PRESENTATION TO BE, UM, IN CASE THIS DOESN'T GO WELL SETTING YOU UP FOR, FOR FREDDY HERE, THAT'S, YOU GOTTA HAVE A FALL GUY. 
          SO, UH, NO. 
          SO, UM, ONE OF THE ROLES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IN THIS IS GENERIC, ANY, ANY CITY COUNCIL IN MY EXPERIENCE CAN PLAY IS DEBATING AND DECIDING WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY IT WANTS TO BUILD. 
          AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE WORD BUILD. 
          UH, NOW NOT EVERY, UH, CITY COUNCIL CAN CHOOSE TO PLAY THAT ROLE DEPENDING ON ITS, ITS CIRCUMSTANCES AT THE TIME. 
          ITS PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT, ITS, UH, 
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INTERNAL POLITICS. 
          AND I MEAN THAT IN A POSITIVE WAY. 
          POLITICS IS JUST, UH, PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THEIR DIFFERENT VIEWS ON, ON THINGS. 
          SO AS WELL AS EACH CITY HAS ITS OWN IMMEDIATE CHALLENGES. 
          SO NOT EVERY CITY COUNCIL, NOT EVERY CITY CAN BE IN THE BUILD MODE. 
          SO IT'S A CHOICE, YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU CHOOSE THAT ROLE, THEN FOR YOUR VISION TO BECOME A REALITY, THE CITY COUNCIL MUST BE IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL. 
          I THINK WE MAY HAVE MAYBE EVEN MENTIONED SOMETHING EARLIER IN THE, UM, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT WERE ADOPTED SEVEN YEARS AGO ARE JUST NOW STARTING TO SHOW THE FRUITS OF, OF, UM, THE INTENT. 
          SO, AND I THINK YOU DID THIS WELL, UM, TODAY, ESPECIALLY HAVING IT THE FIRST ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA AS YOUR COUNCIL VISION AND WHERE, WHERE YOU WANT THIS CITY TO GO. 
          SO, UH, IF YOU'RE, IF A CITY IS NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT TODAY, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN IN THE NEXT, IN MY OPINION, 3, 5, 10, 10 YEARS. 
          AND IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK AND IT TAKES CONSTANT WORK. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          I THINK OF THAT QUITE A BIT. 
          UM, WHEN WE'RE THINKING OF B C R U A, I KNOW SEVERAL YEARS AGO THERE WAS A LOT OF CRITICISM FROM SOME PEOPLE ABOUT IT WAS THE WRONG WAY TO GO. 
          IT'S SO EXPENSIVE, BUT WE LOOK AT IT NOW AND IT'S ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT THE CITY EVER DID. 
          AND, UM, WHEN I READ BACK ON THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE AT THE TIME THAT IT WAS CREATED AND, AND HOW, UH, BOLD THAT WAS TO COMMIT TO SOMETHING SO BIG AND SO EXPENSIVE AND SO LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, THAT TOOK A LOT OF FORTITUDE FOR WHOEVER WAS SITTING UP HERE TO DO THAT AT THE TIME. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW THAT WE NEED TO BE BOLD FOR, AND MAYBE WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALWAYS BE POPULAR AND THERE'S GOING TO BE NAYSAYERS, BUT IN 10 YEARS WE'RE GONNA HAVE WATER, OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE ROADS, OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE EMPLOYMENT AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WANT AND JUST DIG IN AND TAKE THE HITS, STAY THE COURSE, STAY THE COURSE, TAKE THE HITS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MESSAGING TO PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING, THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING IT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE WATER IN 10 YEARS. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING. 
          AND, AND THE INTENTIONAL, YOU'VE MENTIONED INTENTIONAL. 
          YEAH. 
          NOW WHERE WE'RE AT TO BUILD THAT CITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE THOSE GAPS, WE'RE AT THAT POINT WE GOT THROUGH COVID. 
          YES. 
          WE'VE GETTING THROUGH THE WATER. 
          YES. 
          NOW THE INTENTIONAL PIECE IS YOU'VE GOT DEVELOPMENT AT YOUR EDGE, YOU'VE GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN AT, AT NORTHLINE ON THE TUR SIDE, WE DO HAVE THINGS LIKE, UH, HERITAGE GROVE THAT NEEDS INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL FOR THAT COMMERCIAL PIECE. 
          AND I DO THINK THAT GOING FORWARD THIS NEXT YEAR, UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIDE IS GONNA BE VERY WELL POISED TO HELP THE WHOLE TEAM MAKE THOSE INTENTIONAL DECISIONS AND KNOW WHAT THE WINS ARE AND WHAT TO, WHAT TO STEP BACK FROM. 
          UH, SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS WILL BE, AND THEY'RE HARDER FOR Y'ALL BECAUSE WHEN A, WHEN A ROUND ROCKER, GEORGETOWN DOES AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEAL AND THEY USE FOUR B MONEY FOR IT, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHEN YOU'RE HAVING IT HIT AS A COST ON YOUR GENERAL FUND TO REBATE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO SOME THINGS, AGAIN, CATALYST AND THEN CHOOSING AND CHOOSING THE RIGHT COMPETITOR OR THE RIGHT PARTNER TO BRING HERE BECAUSE THAT THE, THE KEY IS GONNA BE MAKING SURE YOUR PARTNERSHIPS ARE SOLID. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, NOW THE, THE SPOILER ALERT, UH, SO NO SURPRISE COMING FROM YOUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, BUT, UH, THE PLAYING FIELD FOR THE RO THE BUILDER ROLE BEGINS, INTERSECTS WITH AND USUALLY ENDS WITH THE BUDGET. 
          UH, NOTHING BIG HAPPENS WITHOUT MONEY AND DECIDING HOW THAT MONEY GETS, HOW TO GET THE MONEY NECESSARY TO ADVANCE THE BALL OR YOUR VISION YEAR AFTER YEAR IS WRAPPED UP IN THE BUDGET. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO WHAT WAS THE NEXT THING YOU WANTED TO SAY, BUT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO SELL US ? I, I THINK THAT BULLET WAS EDITED BY MY . 
          HE JUST FORGOT TO TAKE OUT THE  THINK IT WAS JUST DIRECTED AT ME. 
          SO I, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, THEN I, I WANT TO CLOSE WITH SOMETHING I I STORY, I, I THINK MY MOTHER MUST HAVE TOLD ME WAY BACK WHEN. 
          UM, SO IT'S THE STORY OF THE CATERPILLAR, THE, OR THE GRASSHOPPER, THE ANT AND THE HONEY BEE. 
          SO IT'S ALL ABOUT WORK AND WHETHER YOUR WORK IS PRODUCTIVE. 
          SO GRASSHOPPERS, THEY SWARM IN, THEY HAPPILY MUNCH AWAY AT WHATEVER IS AVAILABLE, THEN THEY MOVE ON, THEY'RE INCREDIBLY PRODUCTIVE, BUT IN A DESTRUCTIVE SORT 
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OF WAY. 
          UH, ANTS ON THE OTHER HAND WORK AND WORK AND WORK, AND THEY BUILD THEIR MOUNDS, AND THEN THE LAWNMOWER SCATTERS IT TO THE WINDS AND THEY HAVE TO START OVER. 
          UM, BUT ANTS ANSWER TIRELESS AND HEROIC. 
          SO HONEYBEES ON THE OTHER HAND WORK AND WORK AND WORK, BUT IN THE END, THEY LEAVE SOMETHING GOOD BEHIND. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE WORK IN FRONT OF US, UH, AND, AND THE BUDGET, THERE'S PLENTY OF WORK TO DO. 
          I MEAN, WE, WE ALL CAN ATTEST TO, UM, THE WORK THAT WE HAVE IN, IN FRONT OF US. 
          UM, BUT TO LEAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING GOOD BEHIND, IT'S GONNA TAKE MONEY AND RESOURCES AND IT NEEDS TO BE IN THE BUDGET. 
          UM, I BELIEVE MONEY WAS INVENTED TO HELP PEOPLE MAKE CHOICES. 
          YOU KNOW, AND NOTHING MAKES PEOPLE STRUGGLE WITH A CHOICE IS WHEN YOU PUT MONEY ON THE LINE, IT CHANGES THEIR WHOLE DEMEANOR ABOUT WHETHER THEY WANT TO DO THAT OR THIS. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD, UH, UH, A LONG RUN HERE IN LEANDER OF, IN A WAY, EASY BUDGETS. 
          THERE'S BEEN MONEY TO FUND THE, THE NECESSITIES AND THE BASICS AND DO, UH, INCREMENTAL CHANGE HERE AND THERE. 
          UM, THIS BUDGET THAT WE'RE GOING INTO. 
          IF JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS AGENDA, UH, ITEM AND YOUR, YOUR VISION, IF, IF A THIRD OF THOSE ITEMS YOU WANT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD ON, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT 'EM AND I, I JUST SEE DOLLAR SIGNS. 
          SO WE, WE NEED TO HAVE YOUR INPUT, UH, UH, ON THOSE SO THAT WE CAN PUT THE MONEY WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE IN THIS, IN THIS COMING YEAR. 
          WE MAY NOT GET THERE, CERTAINLY NOT WITH EVERYTHING, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE KNOW WHAT THE CHOICES, UH, TO BE MADE ARE. 
          SO AGAIN, THE INTENT OF THIS SECTION WAS TO HOPEFULLY HAVE SOME CONVERSATION, UH, EVEN IF IT'S AMONG Y'ALL SELVES, AND STAFF CAN, CAN HEAR THE DISCUSSION OF WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET DOLLARS GOING INTO NEXT YEAR, UH, WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE, WHAT, WHAT NEEDS TO, YOU KNOW, BE AT THE, THE FRONT OF, OF THE LINE. 
          SO THAT IS MY PRESENTATION. 
          SO CAN I JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT THERE? I, I CAN'T LET THIS GO. 
          DARE I SAY WE WANNA BE THE HONEY BEE . 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HOPEFULLY GOT THAT OUTTA MY SYSTEM. 
          . 
          I CAN'T TURN THAT OFF. 
          PAUL. 
          CHECK . 
          COUNSEL, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER? I THINK WE HIT IT PRETTY GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          STAFF ANYTHING FURTHER? NO, WE JUST, WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOU EARLY. 
          THE SECOND WE'RE SEEING IT, AND BECAUSE THE END OF THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT WHERE THE STRENGTHS ARE, WHERE THE WEAKNESSES ARE, AND OPPORTUNITIES, AND WHERE THE HEAVY LIFTING'S GONNA HAVE TO BE FOR CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS. 
          WINK, WINK OVER THE NEXT YEAR. 
          AND THEN HOW WE CAN ALL PITCH IN TO GET THROUGH THOSE BUMPS UNTIL, UNTIL THAT AVOR HITS, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TAX ROLLS. 
          AND ALSO TILL WE LAND A FEW MORE, UM, OF THOSE BIG TAXPAYERS. 
          NOW, KEEP IN MIND, WE COULD SIGN A GOLDEN GOOSE TOMORROW AND IT'D STILL BE PROBABLY 24 TO 36 MONTHS BEFORE YOU, THEY'D HAVE THINGS OPEN, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S JUST GONNA BE, IT'S JUST LIKE WATER. 
          LIKE THE MAYORS MENTIONED. 
          YOU, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTION YOU NEED TO GO. 
          UH, YOU SEE THE OPPORTUNITY AND YOU JUST, YOU STAY WITH IT. 
          YOU KEEP WORKING IT. 
          UM, KIND OF THE DAN APPROACH, NOT TO PICK ON DAN, BUT YOU JUST KEEP WORKING AT IT AND WORKING AT IT AND IT GETS BETTER. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW THIS AHEAD OF TIME. 
          I MEAN, I'M, YEAH, I MEAN, I'M NOT REALLY SURPRISED. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD RATHER KNOW THIS NOW THAN WE, IF WE TOLD YOU AT THE END OF THE YEAR LATER, THAT WOULD NOT, OH, WE FREAK OUT IF WE TOLD YOU ALL AT THE END OF THE YEAR, AND BY THE WAY, WE ALL WENT TO VEGAS WITH ROBERT ON A SITE SELECTION THING, SAY BYEBYE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I'D EXPECT Y'ALL TO DO THAT TOO. 
          SOME OF US ARE. 
          ALL OF US. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING PROACTIVE AND ON TOP OF IT AND THE COMMUNICATION. 
          IT'S VERY HELPFUL. 
          OKAY, SO WITH THAT, WE ARE ABOUT AN HOUR AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          SO DO WE, LET'S SEE. 
          10:00 AM TO NOON WAS OUR FISCAL FINANCIAL OUTLOOK. 
          LUNCH IS NOON TO ONE MORE WE CAN GET DONE THE BETTER. 
          CAUSE I HAVE TO LEAVE AFTER . 
          OKAY. 
          SO DO WE 
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WANT TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK AND THEN HEAD INTO, UH, RESOLUTIONS REGARDING MANAGEMENT? THE CITY'S WATER SYSTEM? YEAH. 
          YES. 
          OKAY, LET'S TAKE 10 MINUTES. 
          10 55. 
          BE BACK AT 1105. 
          YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT, WE'RE BACK ON THE RECORD AT 1118. 
          MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, REVIEWED RESOLUTIONS NUMBER 22 DASH OH 12 DASH ZERO ZERO AND 22 DASH OH 31 DASH ZERO ZERO REGARDING MANAGEMENT OF THE CITY'S WATER SYSTEM. 
          CITY MANAGER. 
          BEVERLY, TAKE IT AWAY. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          WHAT THIS, UH, THIS PRESENTATION GETS INTO A WHOLE LOT OF DETAIL IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT YOUR PACKET. 
          IT'S, IT'S PRETTY EXTENSIVE. 
          AND THAT'S ALSO WHY IT'S GONNA BE A TEAM EFFORT. 
          UM, MYSELF, DAN, GINA, ROBIN, AND MIKE, AND POSSIBLY IF, IF NEED BE, WE CAN ALSO CHECK WITH BILL TEETER AND SOME OF THE OTHERS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS TEAM EFFORT TO, AND WITH THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL ON MOVING US FORWARD ON WATER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          SO THERE WERE TWO KEY RESOLUTIONS, 2231, UM, KIND OF ENCAPSULATED AS RE RESIDENTIAL ZONING PRIORITIES AND 2212 WATER SYSTEM MANAGEMENT PLAN. 
          AND KIND OF THE LEAD INTO THOSE WERE TWO MEMOS. 
          THE FIRST MEMO, OCTOBER 15TH OF 21, REALLY HAD ITS GENESIS IN, IN A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          YOU HAD THE BOIL WATER NOTICE, UH, IN, WAS THAT JUNE? IT WAS JULY OF 20. 
          JULY OF 20. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, FAST FORWARD TO, UH, THE FEBRUARY 21 STORM WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOUR LARGER SYSTEM CAPACITY, UH, IS KIND OF, KIND OF MORE THAN KIND OF AFFECTED, YOU KNOW, WE WENT INTO THE 21 STORM WITH, UH, B C R U A DOWN, AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT BOTH NEAR TERM AND LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY. 
          AND THEN IN THAT SAME TIMEFRAME, WE ALSO HAD EXPONENTIAL RECORD GROWTH, UH, ACROSS 2021 ON RESIDENTIAL PERMITS. 
          SO THERE'S, I THINK THIS COUNCIL AND THE, THE PRIOR COUNCIL HAD EXPERIENCED WHERE THE TWO LINES KIND OF, UH, CROSS OR CAPACITY AND DEMAND ACROSS THE WHOLE SYSTEM. 
          SO HOW DO WE GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE LONG TERM? SO IN THE 15 MEMO TALKS ABOUT IMPROVING THE OVERALL SYSTEM CAPACITY OF PLAN OF ACTION, TREATMENT CAPACITY REVIEW OF OUR CONTRACTS, WHICH, UH, AGAIN, THAT IS AN AREA WHERE I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, THE TAG TEAM BETWEEN DAN AND AND PAIGE HAS BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT WAS NOT ON THE FOREFRONT PREVIOUSLY WAS REALLY WATER CONSERVATION. 
          AND I THINK THAT WE'VE MADE HUGE STRIDES ON THAT FRONT, BOTH IN, UH, LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE AND ALSO, UH, THE OUTREACH. 
          AND THEN THE BIG, THE BIG ONE IS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS DEFINITELY A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          I THINK COUNSEL AGREED AND FAST FORWARD, HOWEVER, FROM WHERE WE ALSO HAD THE SECOND, UH, RESOLUTION, THE MEMO FROM APRIL OF 22 AND THE END OF APRIL OF 22, WE HAD THE CONSERVATION PHASE COMMUNICATIONS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE INCLUDING HOW THE CITY, UH, IDENTIFIES ITS CONSERVATION PHASES. 
          ALSO, AND I CALL THIS THE BILL TEETER AMENDMENT, THE, UH, THE CONSERVATION PROGRAM COORDINATOR, WHICH I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST HAVING THE, THE TOOL, BUT HOW YOU MESSAGE. 
          SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE IT AS A HAMMER. 
          YOU CAN USE IT, UH, ONLY AS NEED BE, TRY TO GET BUY-IN FROM THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, DISCUSSIONS ON IRRIGATIONS, ON IRRIGATION AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF CUSTOMER TYPES FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL CONSERVATION PHASE ESCALATION. 
          HOW WE MOVE INTO THAT NOW. 
          UM, THE REPAIR THAT WE DID HAVE, UH, THIS PAST YEAR, B C R U A, ALL OF THESE THINGS, UM, HELPED TO SAY THE LEAST IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO MESSAGE THAT AND WORK THROUGH THE, UH, REPAIR WITH THE HELP OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND THEN ALSO B C R U A, OUR COMMUNICATION TO B C R U A AND WITH B C R U A AND THE PARTNERS, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE CAN'T GET TO THE BIG, UM, MOTHER LOAD OF, OF, OF WATER UNLESS WE MOVE FORWARD ON ALL THE WAY THROUGH PHASE TWO A OF THE DEEP WATER 
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INTAKE. 
          SO, JUST TOUCHING ON, AND I THINK I'VE GOT, DO I HAVE THE FIRST THREE SLIDES, MIKE? THE FIRST TWO WE'RE GONNA JUMP TO, TO DAN ON THE CIP P PROJECT. 
          SO, OKAY, SO I'M GONNA HAND THIS TO DAN BECAUSE HE'S AN ENGINEER. 
          WELL, AND HE'S ALSO AN A I C P PLANNER. 
          SO, UH, HE'S A DOUBLE THREAT. 
          I'LL HAND THIS TO YOU, DAN. 
          YOU CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT, WHERE WE'VE, WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH ON THE CIP P AND AND THE LAST, SINCE SINCE 21. 
          UM, GOOD MORNING. 
          DAN GREENSBOROUGH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CITY OF LEANER. 
          AND SO, YES, THE CITY MANAGER, UM, UH, INTRODUCED THE, UH, THE MEMOS. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS TRY TO ESSENTIALLY UPDATE WHERE WE ARE ON ALL THOSE ACTION ITEMS THAT THE MEMO KIND OF PUT OUT, STATING, UM, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF AGO NOW, AND COME, SO THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE WAS, UM, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO TO, UH, DEVELOP CAPACITY WITHIN, UH, THE SYSTEM OF THE, OF THE CITY? AND YOU CAN SEE IN 2021, WE FINISHED UP WITH THREE PROJECTS, UM, SAN GABRIEL BOOST, UH, BOOSTER, UH, STATION ALONG RONALD REAGAN. 
          AND, AND THEN, UM, THE NEW CONNECTION TO THE BCR AT THE BAGHDAD INTERSECTION. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, THE SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY 24 INCH WATER LINE, UM, WHICH HELPED THE NORTH SIDE, NORTHWEST SIDE OF THE CITY BY TAKING SOME OF THE PRESSURE PLANE, UM, OFF OF THAT PARTICULAR AREA. 
          SO IN THE MEMO, WE HAD ALL THESE OTHER PROJECTS LISTED AND THEY KIND OF REALLY WEREN'T GOING, WEREN'T IN THE, IN THE PIPELINE TO BE MOVING. 
          SO IN 22, UM, WE STEPPED OUT AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT, INDESIGN. 
          AND, UM, WE WERE TRYING TO BUY LAND FOR, UH, THE RONALD REAGAN PUMP STATION AT TREVISO, WHICH, UM, WE CAN PUT A COMPLETE ON BOTH OF THOSE BECAUSE WE'VE ACTUALLY PURCHASED THE NEEDED LAND, UM, WHICH IS AMAZING IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. 
          AND THE DESIGNS FOR SEVERAL OF THESE, UH, THE SAN GABRIEL ONE IS ACTUALLY DONE, AND THE TERMINUS ONE IS AROUND 60%. 
          UM, AND SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES ARE IN THE 50% RANGE. 
          UM, SO THEIR DESIGNS ARE WELL ON WAY. 
          SO IF WE MOVE AHEAD TO 23, WHICH IS THIS YEAR, MANY OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE DESIGNS ARE NOW GONNA MOVE INTO THE BID PHASE. 
          AND THEN, UM, HOPEFULLY QUICKLY INTO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE, UH, FOR THE AMI, WHICH IS AUTOMATIC METER INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE, UM, AND, AND WE HAVE A PROPOSAL COMING FROM AN ENGINEERING FIRM, UM, TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BEST MOVE THAT DESIGN FORWARD. 
          SO THOSE WERE ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WERE INTERNAL TO THE CITY THAT, UH, WE STARTED EITHER FINISHING UP OR MAKING SURE THEY FINISHED UP IN 21 AND WORKED THROUGH, UH, 22. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THE, AND THE, AND THE IDEA HERE IS, AND I'M GONNA TALK TO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT ON SOME OF THESE COSTS, AND I'M GONNA HOPEFULLY BRING DOWN THE ANXIETY LEVEL ON, ON SOME OF THIS COSTS, CUZ MORE OF THESE ARE PAID FOR ALREADY THAN, THAN PEOPLE MIGHT THINK. 
          YEAH, IT'S A 60 MILLION INVESTMENT. 
          AND WHEN I GET TO THE SLIDE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW MANY OF THESE PROJECTS WERE ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN FUNDED THROUGH THE WATER IMPACT FEE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WHOOPS. 
          SO I, I WANTED TO POINT THIS OUT CUZ THIS IS A ALWAYS A GREAT MAP, UM, TO SHOW WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          SO, SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE ARROW SHOWING FLOW THROUGH THE CITY, AND YOU CAN SEE AT THE VERY BOTTOM THE, THE B C R A CONNECTION ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, AND I'M TRYING TO FIND MY ARROW HERE. 
          THERE IT IS. 
          SO RIGHT THERE IS THE NEW CONNECTION. 
          SO EVENTUALLY WE'RE GONNA, THE B C R A IS GONNA BE OUR PRIMARY PLANT AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MAIN CONNECTION HERE WITH A 24 INCH LINE. 
          AND THEN A MAIN CONNECTION HERE, WHICH IS A 42 INCH LINE, UM, PROVIDING WATER THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          UM, THE BC UH, THE, UH, SANDY CREEK WATER PLANT BROUGHT THE WATER BASICALLY INTO THE CENTER OF THE CITY, WHICH YOU WOULD KIND OF CALL THE OLD DOWNTOWN AREA, THE OLD PART OF CITY. 
          AND THEN IT WOULD DISPERSE IT. 
          YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE ARROWS, UH, ARE GOING, WELL NOW WE'RE GETTING THIS ONE, WHICH IS GONNA HELP MOVE IT NORTH AND CONNECTION TO THE BCR. 
          AND WE HAVE THIS LARGE ONE THAT'S GONNA MOVE IT TO THE, TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY, WHICH IS FANTASTIC. 
          SO AT THE TOP, UM, WE, WE COMPLETED THE THREE PROJECTS, THE SAN GABRIEL 24 INCH WATER LINE, GOING FROM EAST TO WEST, THE INTERCONNECTION, UM, HERE. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE BOOSTER PUMP STATION, WHICH IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE THAT YOU DON'T SEE WHAT'S COMING ONLINE. 
          SAN GABRIEL ELEVATED SEWER TANK, WHICH IS OUT FOR BID, UM, HOPEFULLY START CORRECT CONSTRUCTION SOON. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE A 16 INCH WATER LINE THAT'S GONNA HELP GO FROM EAST TO WEST OR WEST TO EAST. 
          UM, AT THAT 55% DESIGN FOR THE RONALD REAGAN BOOSTER PUMP STATION, UM, THAT'S ABOUT AN $18,000 PROJECT, 18 MILLION PROJECT. 
          WE 
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BOUGHT THE LAND AND, AND THE LAND'S ACTUALLY THIS CORNER OF CRYSTAL FALLS AND RONALD REAGAN. 
          SO, UM, NOW WE CAN MOVE OUT WITH THE DESIGN AND WHICH WE ARE GETTING READY TO DO, PUT A, UM, RF RFQ OUT, UM, TO FIND A DESIGN TEAM. 
          AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, LAKELINE PIPELINE, WHICH IS GONNA HELP MOVE WATER FROM, UM, SOUTH AND NORTH AT 90%. 
          AND THEN THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK FOR TREVISO WAS ALSO PURCHASED IN, THIS WASN'T HERE, IT WAS A LONG, UM, I THINKING IN, IN THIS, IN THIS AREA HERE. 
          SO WE, BUT WE DO HAVE THE LAND. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE WE'RE GONNA GET TO DESIGN GOING ON. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE SEVERAL LARGE PROJECTS WITHIN A CITY THAT ARE, THAT ARE DEFINITELY MOVING OUT. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO THE OTHER HALF OF THAT, UH, WAS, UM, CAPACITY. 
          SO WE TALKED ABOUT CAPACITY AS FAR AS DELIVERING, AND THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GONNA HELP DELIVER IT TO THE RESIDENTS. 
          NOW WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR TREATMENT, TAKING THE WATER FROM THE LAKE, TREATING IT, AND THEN SETTING IT TO THE CITY SO WE CAN, UM, DISPERSE IT THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR THE RESIDENTS. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE IS A SANDY CREEK WATER TREATMENT PLANT. 
          UM, IT'S WELL UNDER DESIGN. 
          IT'S, UM, AT 60 AND PROBABLY CLOSER TO 70. 
          UM, WE'RE, WE HAVE A MONTHLY MEETING WITH THEM TO SEE WHERE THAT'S GOING. 
          IT'S A TWO-FOLD PROJECT. 
          UM, IT'S HAS TO DO WITH UPDATING THE, UH, SLUDGE PROCESSING, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, AND THE REDUNDANT TRAIN. 
          AND THAT'LL GET US 2 MILLION GALLONS AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. 
          THE OTHER ONE, UM, IS ALL THE PROJECTS WE HAVE AT THE B C R U A. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMEROUS PROJECTS, UM, THAT WE HAVE MOVING FORWARD, UM, AND KIND OF COMPLETION DATES OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 
          AND WE'RE TRYING TO COMPLETE ALL THE NECESSARY PROJECTS TO GET US TO THE 44 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, UM, AMOUNT THAT'LL PUT US AHEAD OF WATER DEMAND NEEDS FOR THE CITY. 
          AND ACTUALLY GIVE US BREATHING ROOM IF YOU WANT TO SAY. 
          UM, SO, SO, UM, AND, AND THE B C R A, LIKE THE MAYOR STATED, UM, AND THE CITY MANAGER AS WELL, IS A PARTNERSHIP. 
          AND THE PARTNERSHIP IS, UM, WELL AWARE AND, AND THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH, UH, FACILITATING, MOVING THIS, MOVING THIS FORWARD. 
          UM, AS A, AS THE MAYOR STATED EARLIER, THERE WAS SOME HISTORY AND APPREHENSION ABOUT, UM, MOVING THIS FORWARD. 
          AND THERE IS NONE NOW. 
          UM, EVERYBODY FULLY UNDERSTANDS THAT, UM, THIS IS THE PLAN FOR THE THREE CITIES AND THE GOOD ONE, I THOUGHT THE OTHER ONE, UM, THAT, UH, PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT AND, AND I FAILED TO PUT IT IN HERE, IS THAT WE ALSO HAVE THE RECLAIM SYSTEM AND WE HAVE THAT ONE WELL UNDER DESIGN AND WE HOPE TO START CONSTRUCTION THIS WELL. 
          AND IF THAT CAN TAKE AWAY 600,000 TO A MILLION GALLONS A DAY TO USE ON IRRIGATION OR OTHER ONES, THEN THAT'S TREATED WATER THAT, THAT CAN THEN BE USED TO MEET OUR CAPACITY FOR THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT A DIRECT PROJECT FOR TREATMENT CAPACITY, IT'S AN INDIRECT PROJECT TO INCREASE OUR TREATMENT CAPACITY. 
          ALL RIGHT, WE'VE SHOWED THIS BEFORE AND THE MAYOR POINTED IT OUT AND IT'S A GREAT GRAPH SHOWING THE WATER. 
          UM, BUT WHAT I FAILED TO DO, AND I NOTICED IT WHEN I PRESENTED THIS TO THE P AND Z LAST NIGHT, THAT, UM, YOU COULD SEE THE STICKER SHOCK IN YOUR EYES WHEN THEY SAW $260 MILLION. 
          AND, AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? SO I'M GONNA KIND OF START FROM THE TOP AND GO DOWN. 
          THE FIRST THREE PROJECTS ARE ACTUALLY DONE AND PAID FOR, PAID FOR WITH IMPACT FEES. 
          IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE NEXT THREE PROJECTS, SAN GABRIEL LAKELINE AND, UM, 2243 WATER LINES, AGAIN, THOSE PROJECTS ARE ALREADY FUNDED, MEANING THROUGH THE IMPACT FEES. 
          SO IMPACT FEES ARE, ARE FEES THAT WE COLLECT, UM, FOR, FROM BUILDERS AS THEY BUILD, WELL WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT WE HAD RECORD SETTING FOR THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS. 
          SO THERE WAS, UM, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, UH, FUNDING AND IMPACT FEE, UM, THAT REALLY NEEDED TO BE, UH, INCORPORATED MAYBE SOONER TO SUPPORT THESE PROJECTS. 
          SO, UH, SO, SO AS A TEAM, WE WERE LIKE, WELL, LET'S MOVE THESE PROJECTS FORWARD CUZ THEY REALLY ARE NEEDED. 
          SO WHAT I, I'M GONNA CONTINUE ON, BUT THE POINT OF THIS IS TO SHOW YOU HOW MANY OF THE PROJECTS ARE ACTUALLY ALREADY FUNDED OF THIS 260 MILLION, WHICH IS ALMOST ALL OF THEM EXCEPT FOR A COUPLE. 
          SO IF WE GO DOWN TO THE CLEARWELL, UM, AGAIN, CLEARWELL, UM, FUNDED THROUGH, UM, IMPACT FEES, UM, 
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WE GO DOWN TO THE SANDY CREEK. 
          NOW THAT ONE IS FUNDED THROUGH CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION. 
          UM, SO, BUT IT'S STILL FUNDED, BUT IT'S DEBT. 
          SO WHAT I MEAN BY THE IMPACT FEES IS THAT WE ACTUALLY ALREADY HAD THE MONEY IN THE BANK. 
          UM, AND, AND THAT PROJECT IS PAID FOR THE COS WELL, THAT'S DEBT MONEY, BUT IT'S STILL, THE MONEY'S THERE IN THE BANK READY FOR US TO GO MAKE THAT PROJECT HAPPEN. 
          UM, THIS IS ONE THAT'S PARTIALLY FUNDED. 
          SO NO, THIS ONE IS FULLY FUNDED. 
          IT'S THE RONALD REAGAN ONE, I'M SORRY. 
          SO THE TERMINUS ONE IS ANOTHER FULLY FUNDED PROJECT, UM, MONEY IN THE BANK FROM THE IMPACT FEES. 
          BCR PHASE ONE, UM, IS FUNDED THROUGH THE SWIFT LOANS. 
          NOW I'M GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE B C R A PROJECTS BECAUSE, UM, WHEN WE INITIALLY TOOK OUT THE LOAN COSTS WERE AT A CERTAIN LEVEL, AND NOW TODAY COSTS ARE AT AN INCREASED LEVEL TO A CERTAIN DEGREE ON EACH OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE AT THE B C R U A. 
          AND SO I WANNA SPEND A LITTLE TIME ON THAT. 
          BUT FOR THE MOST PART, PHASE ONE D AND, AND A DEEPWATER INTAKE AND WHAT, WHAT WE CALL THE PERMANENT POWER, WERE INITIALLY FUNDED THROUGH THE SWIFT LOANS, UM, WHICH STANDS FOR, FOR THE AUDIENCE STATE WATER IMPLEMENTATION FUND FOR TEXAS, WHICH COME FROM THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AT A VERY LOW INTEREST RATE. 
          UM, SEVERAL CITIES DO IT. 
          SAN ANTONIO CORPUS CHRISTI. 
          I ACTUALLY SUBMITTED A BRIDGE APPLICATION FOR THAT. 
          UM, I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S FREE MONEY, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THEIR MOTTO AT THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT. 
          IT'S SUPER LOW AND THEY WANT THESE PROJECTS, TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARDS TELLING CITIES, PLEASE GO FORTH AND MAKE THESE PROJECTS HAPPEN BECAUSE MANY OF THE CITIES NEED WATER. 
          UM, AND THESE WATER PROJECTS. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO AS WE GO DOWN THE LIST, UM, AGAIN, PHASE ONE ADVANCED METERING, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, WE GOT A GRANT FOR THAT. 
          THAT'S ARPA FUNDS. 
          SO THAT'S AMERICAN RESCUE, RESCUE AND RECOVERY PLAN, RE RESCUE AND A RECOVERY PLAN, AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. 
          UM, I HAVE TO GET IT. 
          SO WE GOT A GRANT FOR THAT NOW, UM, UM, WE'VE SEEN OTHER CITIES, UM, WORKING UNDER OUR AMI SYSTEMS AND IT'LL PROBABLY BE, UH, PROBABLY A BIT HIGHER THAN, THAN THE GRANT, BUT WE DO HAVE $5 MILLION OF GRANT MONEY FOR THAT, FOR THAT PROJECT. 
          SO, SO, UM, MONEY IN THE BANK AS, AS I SAID, UM, WE GO DOWN, UM, I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S SWIFT MONEY. 
          THE TREVISO ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IS, UM, ACTUALLY, UH, FUNDED THROUGH THE IMPACT FEE. 
          SO MONEY IN THE BANK. 
          UM, WE GO DOWN TO THE RONALD REAGAN. 
          OKAY, RONALD REAGAN ONE. 
          WE HAVE $7 MILLION THAT WAS IN THE BANK AND WE BOUGHT THE LAND WITH PART OF THAT $7 MILLION. 
          AND WE'RE ALSO DOING, DESIGNED WITH THAT $7 MILLION IN A BANK. 
          WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IN THE BANK IS THE ACTUAL MONEY TO BUILD THE PUMP STATION, WHICH COULD BE SOMEWHERE AROUND PROBABLY 12 TO $15 MILLION. 
          SO THAT'S A PARTIALLY FUNDED PROJECT, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO FIND FUNDS FOR THAT. 
          ROBERT WILL HAVE TO FIND FUNDS FOR THAT. 
           EMBARRASSED, ASHLEY . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, AND THEN THE DEEP WATER INTAKE. 
          UM, WHAT IT, WHAT IT SHOWS HERE IS THAT, UM, $123 MILLION AND, UM, THOSE PRICES FOR THE B C R A PROJECTS ARE, ARE SHOWING THE CONTINGENCY AMOUNT OF MONEY I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE. 
          THAT'S NEEDED. 
          INITIALLY, IT WASN'T $123 MILLION FOR US, IT WAS CLOSER TO 112 MILLION, BUT COST OF INCREASE. 
          SO THAT'S PARTIALLY FUNDED AS WELL AS, UH, PHASE ONE D AND A PERMANENT POWER, MEANING THAT WE HAVE MONEY IN THE BANK, OR IF YOU WANNA SAY THE LOAN, BUT WE'RE GONNA NEED SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY TO ASSURE THE PRODUCTS GET FINISHED. 
          DAN'S NOT ASK YOU. 
          JUST REAL QUICK ON THAT, THAT IS JUST OUR PORTION OF IT. 
          THAT'S NOT, THIS IS OUR PORTION, RIGHT? EITHER OUR INTERNAL PROJECT THAT WE'RE RIGHT OFF PAYING FOR WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OR OUR PORTION, WHICH IS 46.6% OF THE B C R A PROJECT. 
          PERFECT, THANK YOU. 
          AND THE OTHER TWO CS. 
          UM, OKAY, SO THE LAST ONE IS PHASE TWO A. 
          PHASE TWO A IS NOT FUNDED, MEANING, UM, IT'S, IT'S ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT A 50 MILLION PROJECT AND IT'S NOT FUNDED. 
          SO, UM, 23 MILLION IS OUR PORTION OF THAT PROJECT TO START MOVING FORWARD. 
          NOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS USE SOME INTERNAL MONEY TO GET THE DESIGN GOING MORE QUICKLY, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE EMPHASIS ON MOVING THAT FORWARD. 
          UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE OTHER CITIES ARE, ARE WORKING THEIR FINANCIAL, UM, SITUATION TO ALSO PAY FOR THEIR CONTINGENCY INCREASES, WHICH, UM, WE, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, UM, TO INCLUDE PHASE TWO A. 
          SO I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THERE THAT MOST OF THE PROJECTS ON THIS GRAPH, MONEY'S ALREADY IN THE BANK. 
          SO IT ISN'T 
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LIKE WE'RE GOING OUT TO HAVE TO FIND, UM, $260 MILLION MOST OF US THERE. 
          AND, AND THE CITY MANAGER WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. 
          SO BEFORE I GO ON AND KIND OF TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH WE NEED ON TWO A, SAY AGAIN ON TWO A, I DO THINK, UM, YES, YOU'VE HAD THE COST INCREASES. 
          YES, IT'S CRITICAL FOR US TO GET OUR FULL, UH, ALLOCATION OF WATER, UM, LONG TERM. 
          UH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE FOR EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF WHAT THIS DOES FOR CEDAR PARK VERSUS ROUND ROCK VERSUS US IN TERMS OF TWO-WAY? UH, YES, AND I HAVE A SLIDE ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT TALKS ABOUT, I'LL STOP THERE. 
          YEAH, IT TALKS ABOUT KIND OF CAPACITIES OF WHO'S GETTING HOW MUCH KIND OF HOW MUCH WATER. 
          REAL, REAL QUICKLY. 
          THE PLANT'S GONNA BE DESIGNED TO 106 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF TREATED WATER. 
          AND WE GET 50, WHICH IS THAT 46.6%. 
          AND THEN, UH, ROUND ROCK GETS 40 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. 
          WE GET 50 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. 
          AND CEDAR PARK GETS, UM, BASICALLY 15.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. 
          THAT'S THE RATIO BREAK OUT WHEN IT, AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN THE PLANT'S COMPLETELY BUILT OUT AT THE 106. 
          THE OTHER HALF OF THAT, WHERE PEOPLE FORGET IS WE'RE BUILDING THE DEEP WATER INTAKE, WHICH IS THE RAW WATER SIDE OF THE TREATMENT, UH, PROCESS. 
          AND THAT'S 144 MILLION GALLON, THAT'S A HUGE PUMP STATION, THIS HUGE, AND, AND THAT 144 MILLION GALLONS OF RAW WATER IS GONNA NOW TREAT THREE CITIES, WHICH IS 106 MILLION GALLONS, WHICH IS THE ENDGAME OF TREATED WATER FOR THE B C R U A PLANT, 26 MILLION GALLONS OF RAW WATER GOING TO THE CEDAR PARK PLANT, AND THEY'LL GET RID OF THEIR BARGE. 
          AND THEN 12 MILLION COME INTO OUR PLANT. 
          AND THEN I CAN TALK ABOUT IT LATER, BUT THEN WE CAN USE OUR BARGE TO POTENTIALLY INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF THE SANDY CREEK PLANT BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY. 
          SO THERE'S TWO SIDES OF THE P C R A THAT'S PROVIDING WATER TO THREE CITIES. 
          THERE'S THE TREATISE SIDE AND THE RAW WATER SIDE COMING FROM THE LAKE. 
          SO HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED ON TOP OF THIS? AND, AND IT'S NOT ON TOP OF, CUZ I, I'VE ALREADY KIND OF INCLUDED THE B C R A INCREASE. 
          WHAT IS NOT THERE IS THE POSSIBLE INCREASES IN THE CITY PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING OUT FOR BID AND COMING BACK. 
          AND WE HAVE TO SEE WHERE THOSE ARE. 
          SO THE B C I KIND OF SAID, UM, FOR, FOR THE, FOR THE CONTINGENCY PROJECTS, FOR THE POWER AND PHASE ONE D AND THE RAW WATER LINE AND THE, AND THE DEEP WATER INTAKE, WE HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT 17, UH, MILLION DOLLARS CITY DOES WORTH AN ADDITIONAL COST. 
          UM, ON TOP ON TOP. 
          IT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE 259, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE BANK. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO FIND, SAID SUD MONEY FOR THAT. 
          WELL, I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE 23 MILLION, UM, THAT WE HAVE TO GO TO THE PHASE TWO AND INCORPORATE THAT MONEY. 
          THE OTHER COST THAT'S NOT SHOWN IN THERE IS THE POTENTIAL INCREASE IN COST AT ANY ONE OF THE CITY PROJECTS, WHICH ARE SIX. 
          AND, UM, THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, UM, WE'LL PROBABLY SEE COST INCREASE IN EACH ONE OF THEM BASED ON WHAT THE BIDS COME BACK ON. 
          SO, SO I WANTED TO SPEND SOME TIME ON THERE CUZ I DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE A, A STICKER SHOP THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY HAVE QUITE A BIT OF MONEY IN THE BANK AND THAT WAS THERE AND WE HAVE I THINK, VERY GOOD LOANS TO MAKE THIS ALL HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 
          SO WHAT WAS THAT TOTAL STILL NEEDED? WELL, WE'LL WE'RE GONNA NEED THE PHASE TWO A, WHICH IS ABOUT 23 MILLION, AND THEN THE CONTINGENCIES FOR THE CURRENT B C R A PROJECTS THAT ARE IN PLACE ABOUT 17 MILLION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THESE ARE KIND OF ESTIMATES AND THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKED OUT, YOU KNOW, MORE IN DETAIL AS WE GO ALONG, BUT JUST GIVE YOU A FEEL FOR IT. 
          OKAY, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S HUGE. 
          I MEAN, TO LOOK AT TWO, ALMOST 260 WHAT WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS 40 MILLION. 
          THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE. 
          YES. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO SPEND SOME TIME ON THIS SLIDE TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, THE COUNCIL, THE P AND Z, WHO I KNOW I'M SURE HAD A HEART ATTACK AND I SHOULD HAD TO FIB LATER ON THE CORNER, . 
          AND THEN, UH, AND THEN THE, THE PUBLIC AS A WHOLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST NOT GOING OUT THERE AND GOING CRAZY. 
          YOU KNOW, MUCH OF THIS WAS, WAS KIND OF THERE AND WE JUST NEEDED TO GET THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE GOING. 
          UM, ON, UH, THE GROWTH SIDE CAME ALL UP FRONT AND REALLY FAST, AND NOW WE GOTTA CATCH UP WITH THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? UH, HOPEFULLY THAT WAS HELPFUL. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION, UM, FOR THAT. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          SO, SO HERE'S, HERE'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH OUR TREE CAPACITY AS, UH, THE, UH, CITY MANAGER INDICATED RIGHT NOW SANDY CREEK'S AT 10. 
          AND, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE IN SHORT ORDER IN A COUPLE YEARS HOPING IT'LL BE 12. 
          AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT FOR THE BCR. 
          WE'RE AT 15 AND OUR ENDGAME IS 50. 
          UM, WHEN WE BUILD ALL THE PHASES, PHASE TWO A IS LEFT, WHAT'S LEFT IS PHASE, WELL TECHNICALLY PHASE ONE D, IT'S NOT BUILT PHASE 
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ONE D, PHASE TWO A, WHICH WE NEED BUILT. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT TWO PHASES AFTER THAT ARE TWO B AND THREE. 
          ONCE AND THREE IS THE LAST ONE. 
          UM, THAT TO BUILD, TO BUILD IT OUT. 
          OUR ENDGAME IS 62 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. 
          NOW THAT COULD GO TO 66. 
          ONCE THE DEEP WATER INTAKE COMES ON, WE HAVE A BARGE OUT THERE THAT CAN PROVIDE WATER TO THE PLANT. 
          WE HAVE SPACE TO ACTUALLY PUT THE PLANT, UM, UM, FOUR MORE TRAINS IN TO GET, ITS FOUR MORE OR MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. 
          AND SO ONCE THE DEEP WATER INTAKE IS PROVIDING THE PLANT RAW WATER, THEN WE COULD PROBABLY USE THE, UH, BARGE AND BUILD THE EXTRA TRAINS TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF THE SANDY CREEK PLANT FROM 12 TO 16. 
          IT WON'T HAPPEN FOR FIVE YEARS, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND THE MONEY TO UPGRADE THE, THE, UM, THE BARGE AND UH, RAW WATER LINE GOING TO THE PLANT WHEN WE HAVE A GREAT DEEP WATER INTAKE SYSTEM COMING ONLINE. 
          THAT'S RESIDUAL TO DROUGHTS GONNA BE DONE IN ESSENTIALLY FIVE YEARS, MAYBE LESS, HOPEFULLY NOT MORE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU'VE SEEN THIS CHART. 
          UM, THE PUBLIC HAS SEEN THIS CHART THAT WAS IN THE MEMO. 
          THIS IS THE UPDATED VERSION. 
          UM, I CAN FIND MY ARROW AGAIN. 
          HERE IT IS. 
          SO, UM, A COUPLE THINGS AND, AND WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, UM, I'M GONNA START KIND OF AT THE TOP WHERE WE PROJECTED 28,000 CONNECTIONS AND WE, AND WE ENDED UP 28,800 AND WE ENDED UP WITH 28,500. 
          WE WERE ONLY 200 OFF. 
          THAT'S PRETTY DARN GOOD FROM LIKE TWO YEARS AGO ALMOST. 
          AND THE, AND THE QUESTION WAS RAISED WHEN WE FIRST FIRST BROUGHT THIS, UH, CHART UP WAS, YOU KNOW, WELL YOU HAVE 12, WHY DON'T YOU MAKE IT 14? WHICH WAS A VERY GOOD QUESTION BY THE MAYOR, OR WHY IS IT NOT LESS IN THAT DISCUSSION, WE SHOULD SAY WE TRY TO USE OUR BEST, UM, INFORMATION, HISTORICAL AND OTHERS TO INDICATE HOW WE'RE GOING AND WHEN WE SHOW, AND IT'S KIND OF TRACKING THAT WE SHOW 10, AND IT'S IRONIC THAT THIS PAST YEAR WE ONLY HIT 9.7, AND SO WE'RE KIND OF GOING, GOING IN THAT DIRECTION, UH, BECAUSE THE GROWTH'S BEEN SO LONG THAT AT SOME POINT KIND OF HAS TO END. 
          UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE HAD 13.3, THEN 9.7, THAT AVERAGES OUT TO ABOUT 12 OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS IN WHICH WE PREDICTED 12 AND 12. 
          THAT'S STILL A TON. 
          I'VE JUST POINTED IT OUT. 
          THAT'S A TON OF GROWTH STILL. 
          UM, BEFORE WAS, THERE'S THE RECORD AMOUNT OVER THE, THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. 
          THAT'S AN AMAZING 15.5. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY COULD HAVE GUESSED 15.5 FOR, FOR A GROWTH RATE. 
          SO I'M GONNA SKIP HERE TO THE, TO THE KIND OF TO THE BOTTOM. 
          UM, IN 2020, WE HAD A MAX AMOUNT OF 16.8. 
          AND, AND HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR TREATMENT CAPACITY, WHICH IS 25. 
          SO WE HAD, WE HAD ROOM, UM, BUT WE ALSO DIDN'T GROW SINCE FROM HERE TO HERE, YOU KNOW, UM, 5,000, 6,000 CONNECTIONS. 
          SO SINCE WE WERE HERE TO HEAR, WE'VE GROWN IN 6,000, UH, WATER CONNECTIONS, WHICH IS AMAZING. 
          UM, FOR, FOR, ESPECIALLY FOR ME. 
          SO THIS YEAR, 14 YEARS AGO, WELL, WHAT HAPPENED THERE, IT WAS A RAINY SUMMER AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET RAIN. 
          AND, UM, AND I, I HAVE A NOTE ON THIS THAT HOPEFULLY THE LAIA IS LEAVING AND THERE'S ALL INDICATIONS OF THAT. 
          AND SO OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS WE'LL GET THE REVERSE OF THAT AND WE'LL START GETTING RAIN, WHICH WILL BE A GREAT HELP. 
          SO THE THIRD ONE, SO THIS PAST YEAR WE HIT 20.5 AS A PEAK AND WE STILL HAVE A CAPACITY OF 25. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          THAT GIVES US BUFFER. 
          WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS STRETCH THAT, BASICALLY THAT PEAK TO HERE. 
          SO IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD KEEP IT 2020 AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT CAN GO UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT BECAUSE IN 2025 WE'RE GONNA COMPLETE THE SANDY, UH, CREEK TREATMENT PLAN WILL GIVE US 2 MILLION GALLONS. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE PHASE ONE D COMPLETED, WHICH WILL GIVE US FIVE. 
          SO IT'S A TOTAL OF 7 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE RIGHT THERE. 
          AND YOU'RE SPEAKING IN ABSOLUT'S, RIGHT? I I AM SPEAKING IN ABSOLUTES. 
          I LIKE IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO, SO YOU CAN SEE THE PINK AREAS OF, OF, OF ABOVE THAT, THAT SHOWS WHAT OUR PRO PROJECTED IS. 
          OKAY? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PROJECTIONS. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT EASY, THEY'RE HARD, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, SO MANY VARIABLES, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE GUY HIMSELF 
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PROVIDING RAINFOREST OR NOT PROVIDING RAINFOREST. 
          UM, SO, SO AGAIN, THE PINK ONES ARE THE WORST POSSIBLE DRIEST, HOTTEST, NO RAIN DAYS EVER. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE EVEN WHEN WE HAD THAT CONDITION THAT WE STILL ONLY HIT 20. 
          SO WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SO FAR, AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, UH, UH, CONSERVATION, THAT WE'RE HOPING THAT TREND CONTINUES ON AND, AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING EDUCATED AND MORE IN TUNE TO WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO. 
          AND, UM, AND I, AND I THINK IT'S WORKING AND ONLY IN THE SENSE OF WE HAD A VERY HOT DRY, UM, 2222, AND WE STILL ONLY HIT A MAX OF 20, WHICH IS, WHICH IS GREAT QUESTION. 
          SO GO AHEAD. 
          I SAID WE SHOULD START DOING CAR WASHES AND THEN WE'LL START RAINING. 
          WAS THAT IT? ? WHAT? PLEASE DON'T TAKE THAT ADVICE. 
          NOT GO TO A CAR WASH CUZ THEY RECYCLE THE WATER NOT IN YOUR DRIVEWAY. 
          YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO, SO, SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AND THEN, AND THEN THE 44 MILLION GALLONS COME IN PLACE AND THIS IS WHERE WE GET THE LAST TWO PHASES IN, WHICH IS PHASE TWO A, WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED. 
          AND PHASE, UH, PHASE TWO, WHICH IS A COMPLETION OF THE DEEP WATER INTAKE. 
          UM, AND YOU NEED PHASE TWO BECAUSE, UM, THE BARGE THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE, WHICH IS GONNA GO AWAY WHEN PHASE TWO GETS COMPLETED, DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO PROVIDE ENOUGH RAW WATER FOR PHASE TWO A TO WORK. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY NEED PHASE TWO ONLINE BEFORE WE CAN BRING PHASE TWO A ONLINE. 
          WHAT'S THE PERFECT SCENARIO IS PHASE TWO COMES ONLINE AND THEN LIKE THE NEXT DAY, PHASE TWO A COMES ONLINE AND, AND, AND THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL. 
          UM, BEFORE I MOVE ON, I WAS GONNA SAY, IS THERE, IS THERE ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS ON, ON THIS GRAPH? I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. 
          YES SIR. 
          SO AS WE CLOSED OUT DECEMBER OF 22, I REALIZE Y'ALL ACTUALLY HAVE A FULL ACCOUNTING OF THE NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS CORRECT ON POPULATION. 
          ROBIN, DO YOU THINK WE REALLY HIT THE 95 OR IS THAT, I MEAN, I, I KNOW THE UPDATED CONNECTION THING'S A REALITY. 
          WE THINK THAT NUMBER'S PROBABLY NOT CORRECT. 
          NOT CORRECT. 
          RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA POINT OUT. 
          WELL, THAT'S A PROJECTED, I I DON'T SHOW THE ACTUAL, I THINK WHAT WE'LL NEED TO DO ALSO GOING FORWARD IS TO GET DOWN TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE PER CONNECTION AND YOU KNOW, HOW EFFICIENT OR EFFECTIVE WE ARE THAT WORKING THROUGH THOSE NEXT FEW YEARS. 
          YES. 
          WITH THE SLIGHT DOWNTURN OR EVEN IF IT IS PRECIPITOUS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADJUST THOSE AS WELL. 
          AND THEN BILL AND, AND THE TEAM AND GINA AND, AND DAN CAN WORK ON, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHAT IS OUR CONSUMPTION PER CAPITA, UH, WHAT THAT NEW NUMBER IS OR IS IT TRULY BETTER OR ARE WE KIND OF BENEFITING FROM SOME LEVEL OF DOWNTURN ALSO, WHILE WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO CHASING CONSERVATION. 
          I'M TRYING TO GET TO WHERE THAT REAL NUMBER LONG TERM SHOULD BE AND GINA'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT IN UPCOMING SLIDE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL FOCUS THE, UH, COUNCIL AND PUBLIC TO NOTES FIVE AND SIX WHERE I TALK ABOUT, AGAIN, OUR PROJECTED MAX DAY ASSUMES THAT WE HAVE A DEMAND OF 750 GALLONS PER DAY PER CONNECTION. 
          IT ALSO ASSUMES THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY WATER, ANY RESTRICTIONS, UH, IMPACTS ON IRRIGATION, TIERED RATES. 
          YOU KNOW, WE, WE DIDN'T INCORPORATE ANY OF THAT CUZ AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF THE WORST POSSIBLE, HIGHEST USE OF WATER KIND OF PROJECTION BECAUSE KIND OF DON'T PLAN FOR THAT. 
          UM, THEN WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE IT, UM, IT'S REALLY NOT, DOESN'T WORK WELL. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, SO DAN, YOUR YOUR, YOUR ACTUALS ON ON WATER CONNECTIONS ARE CORRECT THOUGH. 
          YES, THE WATER CONNECTIONS ARE CORRECT. 
          THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE. 
          AND SO, UH, OUR, OUR CONSULTANT AND, AND I'LL THROW K THREE DALE, HE, HE WAS PRETTY, PRETTY HAPPY THAT HE WAS ONLY KINDA AS A TEAM. 
          WE WERE ONLY 200 OFF. 
          SO, UM, NOT, NOT TOO BAD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THE NEXT PART OF THAT WAS THE WATER CONTRACTS. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          SORRY. 
          UM, I THINK ONCE WE GET INTO THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES, THE CONVERSATION MIGHT RUN A LITTLE LATE. 
          SO, UM, I WAS THINKING MAYBE WE WOULD BREAK HERE FOR LUNCH EIGHT MINUTES EARLY AND THEN PICK IT UP AFTER. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          OR DO YOU THINK YOU WANNA GET THROUGH ONE MORE SLIDE? WELL, WE COULD DO ONE MORE. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS ONE'S QUICK. 
          IT'S MORE OF AN UPDATE OF, OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND, UM, KIND OF WHAT THE OTHER, OTHER CITIES ARE DOING A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO IN THE INTEREST OF, OF OF LEANDER, UM, UH, WE WENT OUT AND INCREASED OUR CONTRACT WITH L C R A FROM 24,000 ACRE 
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FEET TO 31,000 ACRE FEET. 
          AND I'LL REMIND COUNSEL AND THE PUBLIC THAT AN ACRE FOOT IS AN ACRE OF LAND COVERED BY A FOOT OF WATER. 
          SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING LARGE AMOUNTS OF WATER, THAT'S THE TERM THAT THEY USE AN ACRE FOOT. 
          SO, UM, SO WE HAVE A CONTRACT WHICH IS UNDERWAY WITH L C R A, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THEIR BOARD, BUT, UM, WE'RE CATCHING UP WITH THE CONTRACT FOR 31,000 ACRE FEET FROM THIS POINT ON, WHICH IS ABOUT 27.6 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. 
          SO THAT'S MOVING US WELL INTO THE FUTURE. 
          LIBERTY HILL ALSO DID THE SAME THING. 
          THEIR ORIGINAL CONTRACT, UM, WAS 1200 ACRE FEET AND THEY INCREASED IT TO 2,400 ACRE FEET. 
          2,400 ACRE FEETS, ABOUT 2.1 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. 
          RIGHT NOW, WE THE CITY PROVIDE THEM AND WE TREAT THE, UM, 600 ACRES WORTH OF WATER FOR THEM THROUGH OUR SYSTEM, WHICH IS ABOUT A A MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. 
          AND SO WE HAVE A WHOLESALE CONTRACT WITH THEM FOR 40 YEARS, UM, FOR THAT AMOUNT. 
          WE MEET WITH THEM NOW MONTHLY AND HAVE BEEN, AND THEY WANNA INCREASE THAT. 
          UM, THEY WOULD LOVE TO GET SIX MORE HUNDRED ACRES. 
          THEY KNOW OUR SCHEDULE, THAT LAST GRAPH THAT WE BASICALLY CAN'T HELP THEM UNTIL 2025 AND REALLY IN ANY MANNER IN 2025, THAT COULD CERTAINLY BE A DIFFERENT DIFFERENT AREA. 
          THEY'RE ALSO WORKING WITH GEORGETOWN ON HOW THEY CAN, UM, GET WATER FROM THEM AS WELL. 
          SO IT'S A REGIONAL THING. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE A, A CONTRACT WITH GEORGETOWN, UM, FOR SEVEN YEARS, UM, FOR 1200 ACRE FEET, ABOUT 3 MILLION GALLONS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF GROWING NUMBER ONE FASTEST GROWING CITY. 
          AND THEY ARE JUST ABOUT DONE WITH THEIR 8 MILLION DO, UH, GALLON PER DAY EXPANSION. 
          AND THEY'RE ARE UNDERWAY ON BUILDING A A 44 MILLION GALLON PER DAY WATER TREATMENT PLANT. 
          AND THAT'S, WELL, WELL UNDERWAY. 
          UM, IT WAS AWARDED LAST YEAR FOR $175 MILLION. 
          AND SO, UM, SO THEY'RE, THEY ARE BUYING WATER SO THEY CAN GET THROUGH THEIR SUMMERS MORE OR LESS FROM US AND ALSO ROUND ROCK. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE, UM, KIND OF THE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN PLACE AND, AND, UH, AND THE DIRECTION THAT THEY'RE GOING. 
          SO YEAH, THIS WOULD BE, UH, A GREAT PLACE TO KIND OF END, UH, MAYOR IF YOU WANT, AND NOT IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THIS, COUNSEL, ANYTHING ON THIS SO FAR? ALL RIGHT. 
          I THINK WE'LL GET INTO, UH, MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT WHERE WE GO FROM HERE WHEN WE GET BACK FROM LUNCH. 
          SO WE ARE GOING TO TAKE LUNCH BREAK. 
          IT'S 11:55 AM PLEASE BE BACK IN YOUR SEATS AT ONE O'CLOCK. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE ARE BACK ON THE RECORD AT 1:08 PM WE ARE STILL ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, REVIEW RESOLUTIONS NUMBER 22 DASH OH 12 DASH ZERO AND 22 DASH OH 31 DASH ZERO ZERO REGARDING MANAGEMENT OF THE CITY'S WATER SYSTEM. 
          UM, I BELIEVE WE WERE TRANSITIONING INTO WHERE WE GO FROM HERE. 
          ARE WE STILL ON YOU MR. GRIMS PHONE? UM, MAYOR? YES, MA'AM. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'VE ACTUALLY MOVED THIS ONTO THE, UH, NEXT SLIDE, WHICH IS, UH, WE'RE GETTING TOWARDS THE END OF THAT MEMO. 
          AND THIS WAS WHAT WE WERE DOING, OTHER EFFORTS THAT WE WERE TAKING OTHER THAN, UM, SYSTEM CAPACITY AND TREATMENT CAPACITY. 
          AND WE BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT IT, THE AUTOMATIC METER INFRASTRUCTURE, AMI, AND, UM, YOU CAN SEE ON THE, UH, SCREEN WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          AGAIN, WE GOT A GRANT FOR $5 MILLION. 
          WE HAVE A PROPOSAL COMING HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE THREE WEEKS FROM, UM, OUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANT TO SEE, UM, HOW TO MOVE THAT, HOW TO MOVE THAT FORWARD. 
          AND SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. 
          THE NEXT ONE, AND I HAVE A COUPLE MORE SLIDES TO TALK ABOUT THE RECLAIM WATER, UM, WATER LINES AND FILLING STATION AND KIND OF WHERE THEY'RE AT. 
          UM, SO YOU CAN VISUALLY SEE, UM, WHAT THEY'RE ABOUT. 
          UH, AGAIN, THAT'S A, UM, INDIRECT WAY OF, UH, PROVIDING TREATMENT CAPACITY BY USING, UM, INSTEAD OF USING POTABLE WATER FOR IRRIGATION USING RECLAIMED WATER. 
          AND THE LAST ONE, UM, UM, WE PUT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EFFORT AND OUR NEW, UH, WATER CONSERVATIONIST MANAGER, UH, BILL HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS TO WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHO IS A LARGE WATER USER TO, UH, REDUCE, UH, THEIR, UH, USE OF WATER, MAKE SURE THEY'RE ON THE RIGHT DAYS. 
          UM, WE ALSO, THE SCHOOL WAS REALLY WATERING ON BASICALLY LIKE ONE DAY ALL THE SCHOOLS BASED ON THEIR ADDRESS. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          BASED ON THEIR ADDRESS. 
          CUZ YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW THE, SO WE ACTUALLY WORK WITH THEM AND SAID, WELL, WE'RE GONNA STUDY YOUR BILLING, WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOUR PHYSICAL. 
          AND SO WE SPREAD ALL THE SCHOOLS OUT OVER THE, SO WE REDUCED OUR PEAKING, UM, AMOUNT, UM, UM, EACH AND EVERY DAY. 
          AND WE WE'RE KIND OF DOING THAT WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AS WELL. 
          SO, UH, UH, BILL KINLEY AND GINA ARE DOING A GREAT JOB MOVING 
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THAT FORWARD. 
          I ONLY HAVE A COUPLE MORE AND THEN I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER. 
          UM, THIS IS THE RECLAIMED WATER SERVICE AREA, UM, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE CREATING FOR THE, UH, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. 
          UM, AND SOME OF THE CUSTOMERS THAT, OTHER THAN NORTHLINE WHO'S GONNA BE READY, UM, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, UM, HORIZON, UM, DEVELOPMENT HORIZON PARK, AND THEN, UM, MAYBE THE, THE CONCRETE COMPANIES AND THEN, UM, ANY OTHER PERSONS WITHIN THAT SERVICE AREA OR CLOSE TO IT THAT WE CAN, UH, FACILITATE, HAVE AN USE RECLAIM MONITOR. 
          AND THE ONE I ONE I FORGOT AND, UM, AND GINA ADDED IT IN, UH, WAS THE TERESA TRUVIO, UM, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT WE HAVE AND WE PROVIDE THEM, THAT'S A ZERO DISCHARGE PLANT AND THAT ALL THAT RECLAIM WATER IS USED FOR THE TREVISO AREA AND THE GOLF COURSE. 
          AND UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE CURRENTLY USING ABOUT 250 K FOR, UM, IRRIGATION IN THE TREVISO AREA. 
          WE'RE GOING AND THEY'RE OUT THERE, UH, BUILDING THE PONDS, RIGHT. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN, UH, ON THE, ON THE FIGURE TO THE LEFT. 
          BUT WE'RE EXPANDING THE PONDS TO INCREASE THAT CAPACITY TO 550 K. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WATER THAT WON'T BE USED FOR POTABLE, FOR IRRIGATION. 
          AND THEN THE MAX IS 950 K. 
          SO WHEN THAT, WHEN THAT'S FULLY BUILT OUT, SO WHEN PEOPLE SEE THE, THAT WE'RE WATERING A GOLF COURSE, UM, FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT'S RECLAIM WATER ON THERE. 
          SO THAT'S NOT POTABLE WATER. 
          SO WHEN WE'RE IN WATER RESTRICTIONS, YOU KNOW, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABLE TO KEEP THE GRASS GREEN OVER THERE BECAUSE OF THAT, WHICH IS A HUGE BENEFITS. 
          MANY CITIES DO THAT NOW. 
          UM, THEIR GOLF COURSES ARE USED FOR WATER. 
          WITH THAT SAID, THAT IS MY LAST SLIDE AND I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO GINA COUNCIL QUESTIONS? YEAH. 
          QUICK COUNCIL QUESTION. 
          OH YES. 
          UM, I SEE ON THE MAP OF THE AREA THAT'S GOING TO GET THE RECLAIMED WATER, UM, AROUND, YOU KNOW, HORIZON AND ALL THAT, THE TOURS AREA, UM, SOME OF THAT IS ALREADY DEVELOPED. 
          HOW DO THEY GO ABOUT TAPPING INTO THE RECLAIMED? IS IT A, I'D IMAGINE IT'S A SEPARATE LINE. 
          YEAH, SO, SO IT, IT IS, BUT WHAT YOU DO IS ESSENTIALLY LIKE, AND I, I WAS PERSONALLY DID THIS ONE, THE GOLF COURSE, UH, ON THE BASE WHEN I STILL WORKED ON THE BASE WAS POTABLE WATER. 
          WE USED POTABLE WATER. 
          AND SO WE MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE, THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI TO USE RECLAIM WATER CUZ IT WAS A, A WASTEWATER PLANT NEAR THERE. 
          AND WE CREATED AN I L A, UH, FOR THAT. 
          SO WHAT WE DID, UM, AND WE'LL DO THAT HERE, IS, UM, WE CREATED A, A SECTION, A SPOOL PIECE THAT COULD BE PHYSICALLY REMOVED. 
          AND SO WE BUILT THE, THE WASTEWATER OR RECLAIM SYSTEM RIGHT UP TO THAT POINT AND THEN DISCONNECTED THE POTABLE WATER AND CREATED A SPOOL PIECE WHERE WE COULD HOOK IT TO THE RECLAIM. 
          SO YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL GAP CUZ YOU'RE GLASSING YOU WANT IS CROSS-CONTAMINATION SO THAT THEY COULD USE A RECLAIM IN A SYSTEM THAT WAS ALREADY THERE, THE WHOLE IRRIGATION SYSTEM. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IF FOR EVERY REASON THE TREATMENT PLANT WENT AWAY OR WHATEVER, THEY COULD CONVERT BACK AND MOVE THE SPOOL PIECE AND IT'S A MANUALLY MOVED FROM THE RECLAIM OVER TO THE POTABLE WATER. 
          INTERESTING. 
          SO THE, UH, COMMUNITY COLLEGE WOULD BE A FINE EXAMPLE WHERE THEY USE POTABLE WATER. 
          SO WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE A PHYSICAL DIFFERENCE, UM, IN, IN A MANNER THAT'S, UM, MANUALLY IN THAT, IN THAT SAME, OKAY, BECAUSE T CQ LIKES YOU TO HAVE A GAP WE CALL AN AIR GAP OR A BACKFLOW PREVENTER TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE PROTECTING YOUR WATER SYSTEM, RIGHT. 
          AND SO THE SCHOOL PIECE CREATES THAT, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT AIR GAP, UM, KIND OF IN A SENSE. 
          SO, SO YEAH, THERE'S WAYS TO DO IT AND WE'LL INCORPORATE THE SYSTEM THAT THEY HAVE CURRENTLY IN PLACE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WILL WE NOTIFY THE, THE EXISTING LANDOWNERS IN THIS AREA? THIS IS AVAILABLE AND THIS IS HOW YOU ACCESS IT? WE WE'RE, WE ARE A YEAR OUT AND WE TALKED ABOUT CREATING A LE A LETTER OKAY. 
          THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK WITH PEOPLE WHO WE THINK WOULD BE BENEFIT FROM THIS AND LET 'EM KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHEN THIS IS COMING ONLINE. 
          AND SO, UM, YES. 
          LOVE IT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL SO FAR? ALL RIGHT, MS. ELLISON. 
          UM, KIND OF GOING INTO THOSE CONSERVATION EFFORTS, UM, COUNSEL MEMBER THOMPSON HAD MENTIONED KIND OF SEEING THAT YEAR TO YEAR CHANGE IN DECEMBER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SHOWING WE USED 250 MILLION GALLONS LAST DECEMBER AND 250 THIS, BUT WE'VE ADDED POPULATION, LIKE HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT? AND, AND OF COURSE THERE'S A THOUSAND DIFFERENT FACTORS. 
          SO, BUT THE BEST WAY TO SHOW THAT, UM, OR KIND OF, KIND OF DO THAT APPLES TO APPLES IS THE GALLONS PER CAPITA. 
          SO YOU TAKE THE AMOUNT OF WATER USED IN JULY, UM, YOU TAKE THE CONNECTIONS AS WELL, SO CONNECTIONS YOU USE SOME OF, UH, ROBIN HAS THE 
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MULTIPLIERS AROUND 3.3 IS USUALLY 3.28, 3.34. 
          IT VARIES BACK AND FORTH. 
          SO YOU GET YOUR CONNECTIONS, GIVES YOU KIND OF A GENERAL POPULATION AND THEN YOU DIVIDE THE GALLONS BY THE POPULATION AND THEN THE NUMBER OF DAYS IN THE MONTH, SO THAT WE DID THE, IN THIS GRAPH, UM, WE PICKED THE TWO HOT SUMMERS 2020 AND 2022. 
          YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE PRETTY COMPARABLE. 
          BUT THEN I THINK THE BIG FACTOR, YOU KNOW, I TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME, PROBABLY EVERY, EVERY COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT, ABOUT RAIN. 
          SO WE HAD THAT RAINY WENT, UH, RAINY SUMMER, EXCUSE ME. 
          UM, AND IT, SO THIS GRAPH IS JUST SHOWING THAT JULY, HOW IT ALMOST GOT DOWN TO DECEMBER NUMBERS JUST IN, IN THAT GALLONS PER CAPITA. 
          UM, SUMMER USAGE IS USUALLY KIND OF OBVIOUSLY THE HIGHEST AT 150, 170, UM, GALLONS PER CAPITA. 
          AND THO THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO LOOK TO AS WE TRACK OUR CONSERVATION EFFORTS. 
          UM, AND, AND GETTING THAT SUMMER USAGE, UH, USAGE DOWN. 
          SO, UM, AND THEN CONTINUING, OH, UH, PART OF THE, THE MEMO AND WHAT WE LOOKED AT LAST YEAR WAS, UH, THE TIERED RATES. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, WE TOOK OUT THAT 2021 BECAUSE IT WAS A WET, WET SUMMER. 
          UM, AND WE LOOKED AT THE ACCOUNTS BY TIER IN AUGUST OF 20 WHENEVER WE DIDN'T HAVE TIERED RATES AND THEN IN AUGUST OF 22 AND THERE'S NO CHANGE WHATSOEVER, , SO WE'RE, WE'RE SHOWING THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN IMPACT. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF SOME OF OUR DISCUSSION POINTS LATER ON TODAY. 
          IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SURPRISING, IT'S PRETTY INCREDIBLE. 
          IS IT NOT LIKE ALMOST IDENTICAL FOR, FOR AUGUST. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAD ON TIERED RATES. 
          AND THEN CONTINUING, UH, INTO THE FOCUS WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, KIND OF THOSE HIGH USERS AND AND TARGETING THOSE, UH, GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T, YOU KNOW, MONEY DOESN'T, I GUESS MONEY DOESN'T MATTER AND THEY'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, USE THEIR WATER. 
          UM, AND THEN LOOKING BACK AT THE, UM, GALLONS PER CAPITA THAT I SHOWED YOU FOR JULY, IT WAS LIKE THAT 150, 170, THESE PEOPLE ARE USING 1300, 1500, 2600 GALLONS PER CAPITA PER DAY. 
          I MEAN, JUST THE FACTOR OF ARE THESE JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE? THESE ARE JUST RESIDENTIALS? LIKE ALL RESIDENTIAL OR JUST ALL FAMILY? ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES. 
          OKAY. 
          NOT, NOT MULTI-FAMILY. 
          NONE OF THESE ARE MULTI-FAMILY GINA. 
          THESE ARE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES, THESE INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSES. 
          EACH REPRESENTS AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE DID THIS, GOING BACK TO WHAT WE SAID EARLIER, UM, PROBABLY IN UNDER EACH YEAR, THREE OR FOUR OF EACH ONE OF THOSE IS A HOME BUILDER HOME. 
          RIGHT. 
          A A MODEL HOME, I'LL SAY. 
          RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          SO IT'S A, YEAH. 
          SO THOSE WOULD BE THE PEOPLE THAT WE CAN, UM, WE CAN WORK WITH. 
          BILL AND BILL CAN WORK TO REACH OUT TO THOSE, THOSE INDIVI BECAUSE THEY ARE HOME BUILDERS. 
          IT'S JUST, IT'S A VACANT HOUSE. 
          YEAH. 
          ARE WE ABLE TO, I MEAN, I SUPPOSE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE FOR MODEL HOME CONSUMPTION, COULDN'T WE MODEL HOME? I MEAN, IT'S NOT, I DUNNO,  , LIKE THERE'S NOBODY EVEN LIVING THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE, THERE'S NO UTILITIES. 
          WHEN WE DID HAVE THE SHUTDOWN, UM, AND BBC WENT OFFLINE, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ONES THAT WE TARGETED. 
          AND IF THEY HAVE THE SAWHORSE ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY AND NOBODY'S LIVING THERE WE'RE YEAH. 
          WE'RE WE'RE TURNING 'EM OFF. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE TURNING OFF PEOPLE'S SHOWERS. 
          EXACTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO AS FAR AS TARGETING, UH, TARGETING, BUT, UM, ADDRESSING, ADDRESSING MODEL HOMES FOR THE PURPOSE OF A DIFFERENT TYPE OF RATE OR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'D WANT TO CONSULT WITH THE, THE RATE CONSULTANT TO SEE IF THAT'S POSSIBILITY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT COULD BE, I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO THAT IF THEY'RE USING THE BULK OF OUR WATER. 
          I MEAN 2.7 MILLION GALLONS IN A MONTH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND YOU FIGURE WHAT, YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WASHING THEIR HANDS A DAY AND OTHERWISE IT'S ALL JUST IN THE GROUND. 
          LIKE THERE'S NO REASON FOR THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          WE DO COME ACROSS SOME, YOU KNOW, MULTI-GENERATIONAL HOUSES THAT HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THEM AND THEY DO USE A LOT AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. 
          THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, BUT UM, LIKE I DON'T WANNA PENALIZE LIVING THEIR LIVES BUT LIKE EMPTY, IT'S JUST USED FOR SALES TO MAKE IT LOOK PRETTY. 
          NO. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          NO. 
          AND IF IT'S EQUAL ACROSS THE BOARD, NOT ONE WOULD HAVE. 
          YEAH. 
          OH NO. 
          YEAH. 
          SOMETHING ANOTHER. 
          SO MR. BEVERLY, THIS, THIS MAY BE A A SOMETHING WE PROBABLY GOOD TO TALK ABOUT THOUGH OUT IN THE OPEN. 
          IF WE DID HAVE THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE THE HOUSE IS NOT OCCUPIED, IT'S GOT A CO FOR CERTAIN FUNCTION, BUT IT'S NOT OCCUPIED FOR THAT FUNCTION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT APPETITE WOULD Y'ALL HAVE IF WE LOOK AT WHAT OUR CAPABILITY WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND SHUT OFF THAT METER IF THEY'RE GONNA BE USING UP SO MUCH 
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WATER THAT WE CAN'T AND NOT COMPLYING, I MEAN RIGHT. 
          NOT COMPLYING, NOT RESPECTING THAT WE NEED TO DELIVER WATER TO PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. 
          YOU MEAN SO MUCH SHUTTING YOU OFF AS A RESULT OF NOT COMPLYING? CORRECT. 
          SO LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A MODEL HOME AND IT LOOKS LIKE COUNTY CORK AND YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR, NOT THE STREET SHOES OFF AND RUB YOUR, YOUR TOES IN IT AND ENTIRELY NON-NATIVE PLANTS. 
          CORRECT? YEAH. 
          AND, AND THEN SHOULD THAT BE SOMETHING IF WE'RE ASKING OUR CITIZENS YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT ACTUALLY ARE OCCUPYING THE HOUSE TO NOT DO, SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND SHUT IT OFF? 100%. 
          YEAH. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          I'LL JUST ASK SOME QUESTIONS SINCE WHERE DO THEY HAVE THE TIERED GRADES AND UH, LOOKS LIKE IT MAKES AT 25,000 GALLONS PER TIER THREE. 
          WHAT ABOUT ADDING ANOTHER TIER? LIKE A HUNDRED, I HATE TO SAY IT A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR MORE. 
          THE GOLD MEMBERSHIP, THE BLACK RIVER MEMBERSHIP? YES. 
          SERIOUS. 
          THE LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP AND REALLY INCREASED THREE FOR THAT ONE QUITE A BIT. 
          BUT IF THEY'RE MAKING A BUNCH OF MONEY ON THE HOMES, THEY MIGHT NOT CARE. 
          THEY'LL JUST KEEP WRITING THE CHECK AND THEN WE'RE STILL IN THE SAME POSITION OF NEEDING THE WATER. 
          WE NEED THE WATER MORE THAN WE NEED THEIR MONEY. 
          YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE IDEA OF HAVING THE TIERED RATES WAS THAT IT WAS GONNA BE THE STICK, BUT IT'S CLEARLY NOT THE STICK OPEN. 
          IT WOULD BE A GUITAR. 
          YES. 
          I'M AFRAID IT WOULD BE COMPETITIVE WHERE BETWEEN THE, THE MODEL HOMES THEN IT WOULD BE COMPETITIVE WITH I, I DON'T KNOW. 
          JUST IT WOULD NOT, IT WOULD NOT BE THE SAME ACROSS THE BOARD IF WE, IN OTHER WORDS, WHOEVER'S WILLING TO PAY THE, THE RATE HAS THE GREEN LAWN AND WHOEVER CAN'T PAY THE RATE DOESN'T HAVE THE GREEN LAWN. 
          MM. 
          I COULD SEE THAT. 
          SO I, I WOULD NOT WANT IT TO BE A COMPETITIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE COMPETITIVE ENOUGH AS IT IS. 
          YEAH. 
          OH, I WOULDN'T WANT US TO ADD TO THAT LEVEL. 
          I AGREE. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT'S SMART. 
          NO, THAT'S GOOD THINKING. 
          UM, ARE WE HAVING THE, UM, PERIODIC MEETINGS WITH THE HOME BUILDER COMMUNITY? I FORGET WHAT THEY'RE CALLED, DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS OR SOMETHING? YOU MEAN LIKE WITH THAT, WAS IT FORUMS? SO WE, I'M IN TOUCH WITH THE, THE HBA, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A ROUTINE MEETING RIGHT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I KNOW DAVID HAD PROPOSED LIKE ONCE A QUARTER, UM, SO WE NEED TO GET THAT SET UP. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M THINKING MAYBE, I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT CONNECT. 
          WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT MAKING THAT CONNECTION. 
          OH, HELLO? UM, NOW, YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH, SO WE COULD GET FEEDBACK IF WE COULD PLEASE, UH, SET THAT UP AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, GET THAT MESSAGE OUT TO THE BUILDERS, LIKE, THIS IS CRUSHING US. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          THIS IS, AND AND I KNOW Y'ALL COME OUT AND, AND YOU DON'T LIKE WHEN WE'RE PUTTING OUT NEW REGULATIONS, BUT THIS IS WHY WE GOTTA PUT OUT REGULATIONS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BECAUSE THIS IS OUR FREIGHT TRAIN BARRELING DOWN UPON US AT SOME POINT. 
          SO YEAH. 
          I MEAN, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE, IT, IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE A MODEL HOME SHOULD COME WITH A DISCLAIMER THAT, UH, YOU CAN BUY THIS HOME BUT YOUR YARD CAN'T LOOK LIKE THIS. 
            WELL THE MODEL HOME YARD SHOULD NOT LOOK LIKE THAT. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          THIS IS WHAT YOUR WATER BILL'S GONNA COST. 
          IF YOU WANT YOUR LAWN TO LOOK LIKE THIS IS , THAT WOULD BE A GOOD DISTRIBUTOR. 
          IT WOULD BE. 
          IT WOULD BE. 
          THAT WOULD BE GOOD. 
          TRUTH AND ADVERTISING. 
          YEAH. 
          HERE'S YOUR PROPERTY TAXES AND HERE'S YOUR WATER BILL. 
          . 
          YES. 
          $2,000 A MONTH. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WHICH ONE ARE YOU GONNA PAY? PROPERTY TAXES OR WATER BILL? I MEAN, I LAUGH BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT FUNNY. 
          BUT , I THINK THIS IS MY, UH, MY LAST SLIDE, BUT, UM, WE HAD KIND OF SUMMARIZED, UM, SOME OF OUR CONSERVATION EFFORTS AND I TALKED ABOUT IT AT COUNCIL MEETINGS AND WHATNOT, BUT WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY AS, AS BILL, JUST GOT HERE IN JUNE. 
          SO HE WAS KIND OF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER ALREADY WHEN HE GOT HERE. 
          BUT, UM, EVEN JUST THIS SUMMER, UM, LIKE DAN MENTIONED IN HIS PREVIOUS SLIDES, HE'S REACHED OUT TO THOSE HOAS, L A S D, THOSE LARGE USERS, UH, KIND OF BEEN BOOTS ON THE GROUND. 
          HE'S, HE'S MET WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND APARTMENT COMPLEXES, THAT KIND OF THING, AND REALLY HELPING THEM GET SQUARED AWAY. 
          UM, HE WAS REALLY HELPFUL IN, IN THAT PHASE FOUR RESTRICTIONS AS WELL. 
          UM, HE FIELDED PROBABLY A LOT OF, LOT OF ANGRY CALLS,  THAT, UM, THAT WE ARE GRATEFUL HE WAS ABLE TO TALK, TALK TO EVERYBODY THROUGH 'EM. 
          SO, AND THEN THIS FALL AND WINTER, UM, HE'S WORKED ON THAT LITERATURE, THE IRRIGATION ASSESSMENT. 
          UM, WE'RE GETTING THAT RAIN BARREL SALE GOING. 
          UM, AND THEN THE DROP TOLERANT, UM, GARDEN DISPLAY. 
          SO, UM, JUST, JUST HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF, UH, SOME OF OUR EFFORTS THAT WE'RE GONNA KEEP GOING. 
          IT'S IN, IT'S GONNA BE IN, UH, MARCH, WE BELIEVE, UH, MARCH 25TH, I BELIEVE IS THE RAIN BARREL SALE. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE, UH, WORKING WITH TY'S GROUP ON, ON ADVERTISING FOR THAT. 
          BUT WE'VE, WE'VE GOT THE TWO DELIVERED ALREADY, THE TWO SAMPLE ONES, SO WE CAN PUT 'EM ON DISPLAY SOMEWHERE. 
          SO THEY, DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GONNA PUT THEM ON DISPLAY? FIFTH, MARCH 25TH. 
          YEAH. 
          DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GONNA PUT THEM ON DISPLAY? UH, BILL, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA? I THINK I KNOW YOU SAID GONNA PUT ONE ON DISPLAY IN THE, UH, ACTIVITY CENTER. 
          THE ACTIVITY CENTER, YEAH. 
          AND I'M NOT TOTALLY  AND 
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I'M NOT TOTALLY SURE YET. 
          UH, BUT THE OTHER ONE MAY BE DOWN OVER HERE AT CITY HALL, BUT I GOTTA GET THAT WORKED OUT, SO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST SENDING COUNSEL, UM, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT FOR COUNSEL TO GET A MEMO WHEN THOSE OUT AND WHATEVER MESSAGING YOU HAVE, I'M SURE WE'LL ALL SHARE THAT WITH OUR CIRCLES. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THERE'S BEEN A LARGE DEMAND FOR THAT POST, AND WE'LL ALL SHARE IT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          . 
          YEP. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          OH, I, I DO HAVE DAVID. 
          OH, YEAH. 
          SO I THINK OUR NEXT ONE IS KIND OF SOME OF OUR ENFORCEMENT, UM, EFFORTS. 
          AND I'M NOT SURE MIKE, WHO WAS, I, I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN BOTH TACKLE IT. 
          I KNOW, I KNOW BILL'S BEEN, UH, PARTICIPATING IN THIS TOO, IN, IN CONCERT WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM. 
          SO I REACHED OUT TO CHIEF, UH, DAVIS, JOSHUA DAVIS TO KIND OF GET HIS APPROACH FOR THIS YEAR. 
          UM, WE WERE ALMOST AROUND THE CLOCK WITH OUR ENFORCEMENT LEADING UP TO THE, UM, RAW WATER PIPELINE REPAIR. 
          AND WE HAD SCHEDULED THAT IN, IN SEPTEMBER. 
          SO FROM AUGUST THROUGH SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, WE WERE DOING LITERALLY MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, UM, OBSERVATIONS AND RUNNING DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS. 
          SO WE KIND OF WANT TO, BECAUSE THAT APPROACH WORKED AND, AND THAT WAS A RAMP UP IN ENFORCEMENT JUST FROM ZERO TO 60 AT THE TIME THAT WE DID IT. 
          UM, WE WANT TO TRY AND UTILIZE THE SAME METHODS, BUT MAYBE DO IT IN A WAY THAT'S MANAGEABLE OVER AN ENTIRE SUMMER. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT HIS GROUP IS DOING NOW IS THEY'RE PLANNING FOR WHAT THOSE SCHEDULES LOOK LIKE FROM HIS TEAM IN COOPERATION WITH OUR UTILITY BILLING TEAM, IN COOPERATION WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM. 
          UM, NOT JUST DRIVING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS AND IDENTIFYING SUBDIVISIONS AND CREATING A SCHEDULE TO, TO, UM, CATCH VIOLATIONS NECESSARILY, BUT ALSO, UH, SIMULTANEOUSLY DISTRIBUTING MATERIALS AND, AND EDUCATING HOMEOWNERS. 
          AND, AND I KNOW BILL DOES A GREAT JOB OF, OF REACHING OUT TO THOSE HOMEOWNERS THAT ASK US QUESTIONS AND DOING THAT ONE-ON-ONE ENGAGEMENT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE HOME BUILDER HOMES THAT WERE PART OF THAT TOP 10, CERTAINLY WE REACHED OUT TO THOSE HOME BUILDERS AND TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THOSE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES. 
          IN FACT, DURING THE REPAIR PERIOD, DIDN'T WE HAVE ONE THAT HAD A MAJOR LEAK RIGHT. 
          THAT WE IDENTIFIED? SO, ONE, NOT SURE. 
          SO YEAH, IT WAS LIKE A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS AND YEAH, WE WENT AND IT STILL STICKS. 
          AND SO, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE AND CERTAINLY PULLING THAT, UH, ENFORCEMENT LEVER AS BEST WE CAN, WILL HELP US THROUGH BOTH THESE NEXT TWO SUMMERS, WHICH ARE GONNA BE, UM, A LITTLE MORE CRITICAL THAN I THINK EVEN THE LAST TWO OR THREE THAT WE'VE HAD. 
          AND, AND DAN AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS, MIKE AND I HAVE THE, ON ONE OF THE ONLY UPSIDES OF SOME OF THE SLOWDOWN IS THAT THOSE NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS COMING DOWN, PLUS THE ENFORCEMENT, PLUS THE CONSERVATION, OUR CHANCES OF WORKING THROUGH THIS ARE, ARE, ARE, AS YOU SAW, YES, IN THE DRY SUMMER, WE GOT TO 20, BUT WE DIDN'T HIT 25. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I THINK WE PROBABLY, WE CAN WORK THROUGH THIS, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A CONCERTED EFFORT. 
          THE DOWNTURN WILL MAYBE HELP US A LITTLE BIT. 
          AND ONE, ONE THING THAT MAKES THIS A LITTLE MORE GRADUAL APPROACH IS WE DON'T HAVE AMMI TECHNOLOGY YET. 
          SO WE'RE NOT ABLE TO LOOK AT REALTIME DATA, UH, DATA IN THE MOMENT WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO SORT OF BACKTRACK IN, IN PREVIOUS DATA AND ASSUME THAT IF THAT CONTINUES, THEN THESE ARE SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. 
          OR MAYBE, UH, SUBDIVISIONS WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION DIRECTLY THROUGH HOAS, THROUGH THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, OR MAYBE EVEN PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THESE SOCIAL MEDIA GROUPS THAT GETS IN FRONT OF THEM WITH EDUCATION AND, AND HELPS EXPLAIN SOME OF THE REASONING BEHIND OUR ENFORCEMENT. 
          SO WE WERE FORTUNATE TO NOT HAVE TO ISSUE SOME OF THE FINES THAT COUNCIL HAD APPROVED US TO ISSUE. 
          UM, HOPEFULLY, AND THAT'S, HOPEFULLY THAT'S THE SAME THIS SUMMER, BUT CERTAINLY OVER AN ENTIRE SUMMER WE MAY BE LOOKING AT, UM, REALLY RAMPING UP ENFORCEMENT IN, IN A WAY THAT'S MANAGEABLE FOR US. 
          SO THIS IS KIND OF THE PLAN TO DO THAT. 
          AND IT'S NOT JUST CODE ENFORCEMENT, IT IS A TEAM EFFORT OF MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, BUT, UM, CERTAINLY WE WILL, AS WE GET CLOSER TO SUMMER, YOU'LL START TO SEE US, UM, MUCH IN THE WAY WE REPORTED THROUGH, AND IT'S CALLED SURVEY 1 23. 
          SO WE'VE PULLED DATA FROM AN APP THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT USES TO DOCUMENT THESE THINGS. 
          WE'LL PROBABLY BE DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR AS WE GET CLOSER TO THOSE HOTTER TEMPERATURES IN THAT SUMMER TIMEFRAME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, UM, THIS JUST GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AND I WANT TO KIND OF PAUSE ON THIS SLIDE FOR A MINUTE AND GIVE COUNSEL AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE THIRD PART, WHICH IS, WE'VE UPDATED THE ORDINANCE A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. 
          UM, WE'VE CHANGED OUR CONSERVATION PHASES TO MAKE OUR BASE PHASE NO MORE THAN TWO DAYS PER WEEK WATERING. 
          UM, WE'VE SORT OF SPREAD OUT THOSE DAYS AMONG, UM, ADDRESSES 
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TO REDUCE PEAK DEMANDS. 
          WE'VE INCREASED FINES TO SUPPLEMENT ENFORCEMENT. 
          SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF OUR PHASE FOUR AND EVEN JUST THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER, WHAT WERE SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT PEOPLE WERE SORT OF, WERE OUR CUSTOMERS WERE, UM, MAYBE PAYING ATTENTION TO OR TARGETING OR THINKING, WELL, THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          SO I WANTED TO GIVE, UH, AND HOPEFULLY GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL ON, UM, IF THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS TO UPDATE OUR ORDINANCE, WE FEEL LIKE HOW WE'VE, UM, SORT OF SPREAD THE PHASES OUT HOW WE'VE, UM, SPREAD OUT OUR WATERING DAYS WORKS. 
          BUT IF WE TWEAKED IT, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT OF, MAYBE WE ALLOW WATERING ON MONDAYS TO FURTHER SPREAD THAT OUT AND TARGET CERTAIN CUSTOMERS TO DO THAT. 
          YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, NOT NECESSARILY MESSING WITH THE RESIDENTIAL WATERING, BUT USING THAT MONDAY FOR ANOTHER COMMERCIAL DAY. 
          UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO TARGET. 
          THERE'S NOT AS MANY OF 'EM WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE CONTACT WITH THEM IF WE DO CHANGE THEIR WATERING DAY, UM, AND ENSURE THAT THEY'RE ABIDING BY IT. 
          BUT THAT'LL LET US AGAIN, FURTHER SPREAD OUT THOSE, THOSE BIGGER USERS. 
          AND, AND GOING BACK TO THE HOME BUILDERS, WE'VE MADE SOME HUGE STRIDES, UH, CUZ WE CONSIDER THE HOA LANDSCAPING IRRIGATION THAT'S COMMERCIAL IN OUR, IN OUR BOOK. 
          THAT'S HOW WE CLASSIFY IT. 
          SO THEY WOULD FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY. 
          WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH LAND ISD AND WE'VE SPREAD OUT THEIR SCHEDULES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT NAMED AN EXTREMELY COOPERATIVE. 
          UM, SO THAT COULD BE AN APPROACH, UH, WHERE WE WOULD UPDATE OUR ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR THAT. 
          UM, THOSE OTHER ONES KIND OF CAME OUT OF, UH, CUSTOMER EXPERIENCES OR CUSTOMER OBSERVATIONS. 
          WE DO KNOW, UM, AND I'LL HIGHLIGHT THE EXEMPT EXCEPTIONS FOR CAR WASHES AS ONE SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM HAS A REGISTRATION PROGRAM FOR CAR WASHES THAT, UM, IF CAR WASHES PROVE THAT THEY MEET OR DOCUMENT THAT THEY MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA AND REPORT REGULARLY TO THE CITY, UM, OR TO THE WATER SYSTEM, UH, OFFICIALS, THEN THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM CERTAIN, UH, RESTRICTIONS UP TO A POINT. 
          SO MAYBE PHASES ONE THROUGH THREE, IF WE ARE ESCALATING, THEY WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM HAVING TO PEEL BACK, UM, CERTAIN USES. 
          NOW WE'VE STILL GOTTA FLESH THROUGH SOME OF THOSE THINGS, BUT THOSE COULD BE OPTIONS THAT GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, MAYBE FLEXIBILITY IN HOW WE ENFORCE OUR WATER CONSERVATION ORDINANCE, BUT ALSO HOW WE COMMUNICATE TO CUSTOMERS WHEN THEY HAVE QUESTIONS. 
          I MEAN, MY THOUGHT ON MONDAYS WOULD BE IF, IF IT HELPS THE SYSTEM YEAH. 
          I MEAN, GO FOR IT. 
          UM, YEAH, WE PREVIOUSLY JUST USED THAT AS KIND OF A SYSTEM RECOVERY DAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT WAY WE KNOW, UM, YES. 
          I MEAN, TRADITIONALLY WE KNOW WE CAN CATCH UP ON THAT DAY, BUT, UM, YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, WITH THIS, EVEN GETTING THEM MORE EVENLY SPREAD IS ALSO BENEFICIAL. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I WOULD A HUNDRED PERCENT DEPEND ON YOU IF YOU SAID THAT WAS THE BEST WAY TO GO FOR IT THEN. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I THINK WE TALKED TO OUR COUNTERPART IN ROUND ROCK, AND THEY JUST, NOT RECENTLY, BUT THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE THAT. 
          THEY'VE DONE AWAY WITH WATER, THE WATER DAY. 
          THEY JUST, THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, PUT ALL SEVEN DAYS. 
          QUICK QUESTION, GOING BACK TO THE MODEL HOMES, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS AT THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE? LIKE, COULD WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE, UM, DROUGHT RESISTANT IN YOUR MODEL LANDSCAPING? OR CAN WE INCLUDE THAT IN PODS SINCE THAT'S REQUIRED RIGHT NOW IN EVERY HOUSE? SO WE HAVE THE GROW GREEN GUIDE AND UM, THE DROUGHT RESISTANT PLANTS. 
          WE HAVE A LIST WE REQUIRE. 
          BUT HOW MANY YEARS DID IT TAKE TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE'RE? ACTUALLY THAT'S BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE 2005. 
          IT'S THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, RIGHT. 
          SO WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEONE SUBMIT A PLANT LIST AND OUR INSPECTOR LOOKS AT IT AND SAYS, OKAY, YOU HAVE A PLANT LIST, YOU'RE PLAYING THE RIGHT PLANTS. 
          THE PROBLEM IS AFTER YOU GET A CO THE HOMEOWNER SAYS, OH, I REALLY LIKE THIS. 
          AND THEN THEY'LL REPLACE IT WITH A DIFFERENT PLANT TYPE AND WE DON'T GO BACK. 
          AND FOR THE MODEL, THE MODEL PARTICULAR THE MODEL HOME. 
          YEAH. 
          CAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE THE GUIDE FOR, IT'S FOR ALL HOMES THOUGH. 
          LIKE MODEL HOMES AREN'T EXEMPT OR ANYTHING. 
          SO DO WE NEED TO ADD SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT MODEL HOMES SPECIFICALLY? CAN'T USE X NUMBER OF GALLONS? WE NOW, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IS LIKE, UM, ANNUALS, LIKE THE COLOR PLANTS, LIKE WHEN THEY PUT PANSIES OUT OR WHATEVER. 
          UM, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ENFORCING THAT AND NOT ALLOWING RESIDENTS TO HAVE PRETTY FLOWERS. 
          YEAH. 
          WE CAN'T DO THAT. 
          WELL, IT'S HARD. 
          LIKE, IT'S REALLY HARD. 
          I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR, BUT IF YOU TELL ME I CAN'T HAVE PANSIES, LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'LL HAVE AN AUTHOR, BUT THAT, THAT'S PART OF OUR, OUR ISSUE. 
          UM, BUT IF YOU'RE SUGGESTING MAYBE FOR MODELS, MAYBE WE'RE MORE JUST TO HIT THEM BEFORE THEY INSTALL THE LANDSCAPING AND SAY LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECT FROM, WELL, THAT COULD BE OUR FIRST TOPIC WITH OUR QUARTERLY MEETING WITH THE HBA. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          MY QUESTION, BUT I THINK IT IS, IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN ADD IN PODS OR, I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE IN THE 
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ZONING. 
          IT'S JUST WHAT WE DO. 
          LIKE, SO WHEN WE'RE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE SEE THAT THE, UM, THE LOTS CHANGED AND THEY ADDED THESE FLOWERS, WE COULD TELL OUR INSPECTOR, HEY, CALL THAT ONE OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          WHEN THEY CHANGE THE PLANTS, IT'S MORE OF AN ENFORCEMENT SIDE. 
          WE JUST DON'T WANNA GO DOOR BY DOOR TO RESIDENTS HOUSES AND SAY, CAN'T HAVE FLOWERS. 
          NO, NOT RESIDENTS, . 
          RIGHT. 
          JUST BE THAT. 
          I THINK WE CAN HANDLE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS IT MY TURN? ALL RIGHT. 
          APPRECIATE. 
          SO I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE TOPIC, TURF GRASS. 
          I HEAR THE APPLAUSE. 
          THAT WAS GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO IN, IN 2005, WE ADOPTED THE, UM, COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          AND IN THE COMPOSITE, OR I'M SORRY, YEAH, 2005 WE ADOPTED IT. 
          AND WHEN WE DID, DID THAT, WE HAD RECENTLY, UM, ADOPTED THE WATER CONSERVATION ORDINANCE WHERE WE WORKED WITH L C A AND ON CERTAIN REGULATIONS. 
          AND, UM, AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, WE HAD TO INCLUDE A, UM, TURF GRASS LIMIT AND, UH, DROUGHT RESISTANT PLANTS. 
          SO WE HAD A LIMIT THAT WAS INSTITUTED ON, UM, NON-RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, YOUR LANDSCAPE AREA IS LIMITED TO 50% TURF GRASS. 
          SO AT THAT TIME, WE DIDN'T HAVE, UM, A LIMIT FOR RESIDENTIAL. 
          THEN IN 2014, WE CHANGED IT TO LIMIT TURF GRASS ON RESIDENTIAL TO A THIRD OF THE LOT. 
          SO THAT MEANS, UM, YOU PUT YOUR, YOUR HOUSE, YOUR DRIVEWAY, YOUR SIDEWALK, WHATEVER'S LEFT, A THIRD OF THAT, UM, COULD BE TURF. 
          AND IN 2022, WE CHANGED IT AGAIN TO CHANGE THAT TO A HALF. 
          AND, UM, WE ALSO ADDED A LIMIT WHERE YOU CAN'T HAVE TURF BETWEEN THE CURB AND THE SIDEWALK, UM, OR IN PARKING AREAS WHERE IT'S LESS THAN SIX FEET WIDE. 
          SO THE POINT IN THIS CHART, UM, WITH, UH, LET'S SEE, WHAT'S THE NEXT, YEAH, IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, DEVELOPERS HAVE VESTED RIGHTS. 
          SO THERE'S A, A STATE LAW IN PLACE THAT, UM, GRANTS THEM CERTAIN RIGHTS AND IS BASED ON THE FIRST, UM, APPLICATION THEY SUBMIT. 
          SO IF THEIR CONCEPT PLAN WAS IN, IT LOCKS IN THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS FOR THEIR SUBDIVISION. 
          SO THAT CHART, UM, ON THE, THE POWERPOINT BETWEEN 1978 AND 2014, WE HAD 90 SUBDIVISIONS. 
          SO THOSE SUBDIVISIONS ARE UNDER THE ORDINANCE IN EFFECT BEFORE 2014. 
          SO THAT MEANS THOSE HOMES DON'T HAVE A LIMIT ON THEIR TURF GRASS. 
          AND THEN 2014 TO 2022, WE HAD 26. 
          SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THOSE DEVELOP IN THE HOMES BE BUILT. 
          AND THEN 2022, WE'VE HAD THREE. 
          SO WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IS, IS OVER TIME WE'LL SEE LESS TURF GRASS WHEN THE HOME'S INITIALLY BUILT. 
          UM, IF, IF WE COULD GO TO MY SLIDE, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE NEXT, IT'S, UM, SLIDE 27. 
          YES, YOU GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS, THIS SLIDE SHOWS, UM, THE ENTITLEMENTS FOR THE, THE MULTI-FAMILY AND THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE HAVE ENTITLED. 
          UM, IF YOU'LL AT THE CHART, YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UNDER REVIEW PLANNED AND DEVELOPED. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE IS, UH, MAN, THESE ARE ALL OUT. 
          SKIP TO ONE MORE, ONE MORE SLIDE. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          THESE ARE THE, THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT, UM, HAVE APPROVED CONCEPT PLANS, BUT THEY STILL HAVE FINAL PLATS PENDING. 
          SO THESE ARE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING OVER THE NEXT FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS. 
          SO THE, THE CENTER COLUMN THAT SAYS SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, THAT'S THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS IN ALL OF THOSE CONCEPT PLANS. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT COLUMN OVER THE PLATTED, THOSE ARE EXISTING PLATTED LOTS, WHICH MEANS THEY COULD GET PERMITS OR THEY HAVE PERMITS FOR HOMES. 
          AND IN THE FAR RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT'S COMING. 
          SO THESE CONCEPT PLANS HAVE SEVEN YEARS, UM, BEFORE THEY EXPIRE. 
          SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING EITHER EXTENSIONS, UM, OR THEM TO BE COMPLETED IN THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS. 
          AND YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDES NOW, IF YOU WANTED TO, ROBIN, BEFORE WE GO TOO FAR. 
          YEAH. 
          THEN I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE, UM, THE TURF GRASS PERCENTAGES ON THE, I'M ASSUMING THOSE ARE ALL THE SMALLER LOTS, LIKE FIF 50 FEET IN LOTS, 50 FEET, ALL LOTS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE, LIKE THE ACRE LOTS MM-HMM. 
          , UH, THE ONES THAT HAVE A SEPTIC AND A LECH FIELD OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED, UM, DOES THAT APPLY TO, BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT, THOSE, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE TURF GRASS IN THE LEECH FIELD. 
          THEY COULD DO NATIVE GRASSES, BUT THEY COULD HAVE 50% BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, UM, IRRIGATED BECAUSE IT'S NATIVE GRASS. 
          NO, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A NON POTABLE WATER. 
          IT'S THE, IT'S RECLAIMED WATER. 
          SO WE HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO THAT. 
          SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, UM, LIKE A, A LARGE LOT THAT COMES IN FOR DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE SHOWING US THEIR PLAN WITH THE HOUSE MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND WE HAVE A 10 FOOT BUFFER ZONE THAT GOES AROUND IT. 
          I CAN LOOK INTO WHAT THEY DO OKAY. 
          WITH THE, THE LEACH FIELDS, BUT IF IT'S NOT IRRIGATED, UM, WELL, IT MEANS IT'S IRRIGATED, BUT THROUGH A LEACH FIELD. 
          SO IT'S RIGHT. 
          IF IT'S NOT CITY WATER. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. 
          BUT 
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I CAN VERIFY THAT. 
          SO IT SHOULD BE, I, I JUST THINK IT SHOULD BE CLARIFIED IN THERE. 
          SO IF WE HAVE THESE ESTATE HOMES THAT WANNA COME IN AND THEY WANT THE LAWN AND THEY HAVE A SEPTIC, THEN THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO BASICALLY THE, THE POINT IS, UM, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE VESTED THAT DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CURRENT STANDARDS WITH THE LIMIT ON THE TURF GRASS. 
          AND WE'RE JUST NOW SEEING THE ONES WITH LIMITS. 
          LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT CRYSTAL SPRINGS, UM, I WAS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD JUST RECENTLY, AND IF YOU WALK DOWN THE STREET, YOU CAN SEE BETWEEN THE TWO HOMES IT'S ALL ROCKS AND THEY HAVE A REALLY TINY FRONT YARD, AND THEN THE BACK IS LIKE THEIR GARAGE AND A LITTLE SMALL COURTYARD. 
          UM, SO YOU DO SEE THE LIMITS HAPPENING. 
          IT'S JUST, UM, NOT AS FAST AS WE LIKE TO SEE IT. 
          SO WE'VE GOTTEN A COUPLE OF PEOPLE OVER THE LAST YEAR OR SO THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, WANTING TO KNOW IF THEY CAN DO ASTROTURF AND WHAT IS OUR REGULATION ON THAT. 
          SO OUR, OUR ORDINANCE IS NOT, IT'S NOT VERY CLEAR. 
          SO IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE, UM, THE SYNTHETIC TURF, UH, TO MEET A LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO WE, WE'VE ALLOWED PEOPLE TO PUT IT IN THEIR BACKYARDS WHEN IT COMES TO FRONT YARDS. 
          WE'VE ASKED, UM, FOR THEM TO PROVIDE DETAILS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, UM, EARLIER, IS WE WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE USING A COMPANY AND THEY'RE PUTTING DOWN THE BASE MATERIAL FIRST BEFORE THEY ADD THE TURF TO IT. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE PROBABLY SHOULD CLARIFY IN THE ORDINANCE. 
          WE'VE KIND OF REACHED OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AND NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT. 
          OH. 
          UM, THEY, THEY EXPLAINED TO US THAT, UM, THEY'RE AWARE I SEE HER. 
          CAN I FINISH ? JUST TELL 'EM TO GET, OKAY. 
          UM, SO I, I CAN, UM, YOU JUST MAYBE LOSE MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. 
          SORRY. 
          . 
          SO THEY HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH, UM, GETTING THAT, THAT DETAIL IN THE ORDINANCE WITH HOW IT SHOULD BE INSTALLED. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT WITH CEDAR PARK ABOUT HOW THEY HANDLE IT AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS COME INTO PLAY WITH, UH, IMPERVIOUS COVER AND, UM, HOW THEY INSTALL THE TURF. 
          SO IF THEY'RE PUTTING SOME KIND OF MATERIAL UNDER THE, THE TURF THAT LIMITS WATER FROM GOING THROUGH, THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM WITH THE DRAINAGE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO IT'S A REALLY HARD TOPIC. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING PEOPLE NEED A PERMIT FOR THEN? THEY SHOULD, WE DON'T HAVE A PERMIT PROCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND DID I SEE THAT WE'RE PASSING A MIC OFF TO SOMEONE? OH, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA TELL YOU BECAUSE I DID COME FROM CEDAR PARK AND THAT WAS ONE OF OUR MAIN ISSUES WITH IT IS IF EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DECIDES TO DO ASTRO TURF, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE WHAT'S EFFECTIVELY IMPERVIOUS COVER. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, AND SO, AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY THOSE PROJECTS WERE DESIGNED DRAINAGE WISE. 
          SO HOW DO YOU WORK WITH THAT? I MEAN, LIKE WHAT DID CEDAR PARK END UP DOING? WELL, WE DISCOURAGE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU, YOU WOULD MESS UP YOUR ENTIRE STORM DRAIN SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT YOU WOULD OVERLOAD IT. 
          YEAH. 
          AT THE END OF THE DAY, EMILY, IS IT REALLY, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY MORE THAT WHEN THOSE DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS EVEN OCCUR IN THE FIRST PLACE, OTHER THAN YOU'RE THROWING ON THE OTHER IMPERVIOUS COVER AND DETENTION, THAT IF IT WAS LEFT NATIVE FOR THE MOST PART ON THE LOT, REALLY WOULDN'T CHANGE THE ASSUMPTIONS? WELL, IT DOES BECAUSE WHEN THEY DO THEIR EXISTING, UH, DRAINAGE AREA MAP, THEY ASSUME LIKE RANGE THE NEW AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WHICH ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT, UH, FLOW, COVER FLOW. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT, HEY, I'M GONNA BRING IN THIS NON-NATIVE GRASS DEVELOPMENT AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE THESE LUSH LAWNS AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS GREAT GROWING MATERIAL AND THE WATER'S JUST GONNA SOAK RIGHT THROUGH AND IT'S NOT GONNA RUN OFF. 
          AND SO THEN IT CAN CHANGE IT. 
          AND YOU SAY, OKAY, NOW WE'RE GONNA DO ASTRA TURF WITH GRAVEL BEDDING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE KIND OF BACK, YOU'RE KIND OF ACTUALLY WORSE THAN EXISTING. 
          BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF YOU WERE TO USE EXISTING, HOW MUCH OF A DIFFERENTIAL IS IT IF YOU USED EXISTING CONDITIONS, TOPOGRAPHY AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF RATHER THAN GOING ALL THE WAY TO ASTROTURF, BUT MORE ON THE NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY APPROACH VERSUS THE LUSH LAWNS IT FOR THEIR, FOR THEM TO DO THEIR ANALYSIS MM-HMM. 
          , I MEAN, IT WOULD BE VERY COMPARABLE, BUT THEN THEY WOULD BE, THEY WOULD BE DESIGNING BIGGER DETENTION LAWNS AND STUFF AND YOU COULD BE EVEN THEN YEAH. 
          SO, SO THEY'RE, THEY ARE BUILDING FOR THE ABSORPTION. 
          UM, YES. 
          WHICH IS KIND OF WORKING COUNTER TO OUR RIGHT GOALS TO YOUR WATER RESTRICT. 
          BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL COME IN AND LIKE I SAID, THEY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS RANGE LAND THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WASN'T FULLY, UH, UH, VEGETATED AND HAD A BUNCH OF ROCKS AND STUFF. 
          AND NOW WE'RE GONNA COME IN AND WE'RE GONNA PUT THIS BEAUTIFUL BLUSH LAWN AND THE WATER'S JUST GONNA SEE IN, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE WON'T HAVE RUNOFFS, SO THEREFORE WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A BIG POND. 
          THE PROBLEM IS THAT, WITH THAT CALCULATION, THAT CALCULATION'S BASED ON 
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YOUR STORM EVENT VERSUS AN IRRIGATION EVENT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO SOMETHING WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IS WHEN THEY HAVE THE, THE SMALLER LOTS, LIKE THE SMALLER BACKYARDS, AND THEY'VE PUT IN THEIR, UM, THE, WHAT IS IT, TWO THIRDS, UH, ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS OR WHATEVER, UM, LETTING 'EM HAVE LIKE A PATCH THAT IS, UM, THE SYNTHETIC TURF, CUZ THEY STILL HAVE THE MULCH BEDS THAT ARE SURROUNDING IT. 
          AND WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IS WHEN THE UM, ENGINEER DOES THEIR PLAN, THEY ANTICIPATE CERTAIN SETBACKS. 
          UM, SO IT WOULDN'T COVER THE ENTIRE YARD. 
          SO IT'D ALMOST BE LIKE THE AREA HOUSE COULD HAVE BEEN IN PARTS OF IT. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'VE BEEN EXPLORING. 
          WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK ON A LARGER SCALE, LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME FRONT LAWN WHERE IT'S, AS LONG AS THERE'S A BUFFER OF SO MANY FEET OF MULCH FROM WHEREVER DRAIN OFF WOULD NORMALLY GO, WOULD THAT, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WHEN YOU DO SOME RESEARCH, UM, AND IT'S ON OUR LIST OF ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO TALK ABOUT. 
          SO I THINK EMILY AND I COULD GET TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH IF IT'S POSSIBLE YEAH. 
          WHAT WORKS, WHAT DOESN'T LIKE OH, MAKE IT WORK, BUT RIGHT. 
          IF IT'S POSSIBLE, WHAT DOES THAT POSSIBILITY LOOK LIKE? YEAH, WELL IT DOES SOUND LIKE IF YOU'RE, IF IF THAT IS THE REQUIREMENTS AND UNDERSTAND THE REASONS BEHIND IT, THEN IT, IT IS GONNA BECOME A, A PERMIT. 
          I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. 
          WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT SET UP. 
          THAT WAS MY ONLY POINT. 
          WE CAN SET IT UP, BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT'S THE PROCESS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE SUCH A LABORIOUS ISSUE FOR, FOR US AND FOR THE HOMEOWNER. 
          SO, WELL I THINK IF WE TURN IT INTO A GUIDE WE CAN ALSO HAVE SORT OF A A CHECKLIST. 
          A CHECKLIST CHECK. 
          THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ALSO WORK WITH MR. TEETER ON, I WOULD THINK, UM, AS HE'S DOING ALL OF THESE WATER CONSERVATION TALKS, I'M SURE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'LL COME UP. 
          YEAH, HE COULD CHECK, YEAH, HE COULD APPROVE THE PERMIT   ATTITUDE, BUT THERE'S STILL A POSSIBILITY THAT IT DOESN'T WORK. 
          RIGHT. 
          LARGE SCALE. 
          TRUE. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          OR A PERCENTAGE PER NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND ONCE THAT, AND I'LL SAY BASED ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE THE EASIEST PERMIT TO DO. 
          LIKE IF CUZ WE'RE HAVING TO ADDRESS SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS WITH DRAINAGE. 
          SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE JUST SIGN UP FOR IT. 
          THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PRESENT MATERIALS TO US. 
          SO WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE. 
          NOT TRYING TO BE NEGATIVE, BUT JUST TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT'S NOT SIMPLE, MORE DIFFICULT THAN RAIN BARRELS. 
          IT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL AND I THINK FIGURE OUT, I'M SORRY. 
          OH NO, GO AHEAD. 
          WELL THAT THEY ACTUALLY DO THAT. 
          THEN YOU HAVE THE WHOLE ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE SURE WHAT YOU PRESENTED IS ACTUALLY WE HAVE AN INSPECTOR. 
          WELL, I KNOW, JUST CHECK IT I GUESS. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S ANOTHER COG IN THE WHEEL. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL AND I THINK IT'S SO EXPENSIVE TO DO. 
          I'M NOT SURE WE'VE SEEN IT A LOT I THINK IN MY ENTIRE TIME ON COUNCIL, I THINK I'VE BEEN CONTACTED ABOUT IT THREE TIMES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEY WERE ALL IN THE LAST YEAR AND I THINK IT HAD TO DO WITH OUR SHUTDOWN. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, MORE THAN ANYTHING. 
          SO I DON'T SEE IT AS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAVE A HIGH DEMAND. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT I FEEL LIKE IF PEOPLE WANT TO DO IT, IF IT'S POSSIBLE WE'RE NOT, I DO THINK, UM, I'M CONCERNED IT'S EXPENSIVE TO DO, RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT YOU COULD GO TO LOWE'S AND BUY A SHEET OF IT AND PUT, PUT IT IN YOUR YARD AND SO WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME PARAMETERS. 
          YEAH. 
          WE DON'T HIDE THAT. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S YOU RIGHT? THAT'S NOT MY SLIDE. 
          SO  MIGHT, MIGHT BE OH, OKAY. 
          I'LL TALK ABOUT IT. 
          TALK ABOUT IT. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY, SO THIS SLIDE'S ABOUT IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. , UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT IS SHOWING, UH, HOW THE NUMBER OF SYSTEMS HAVE INCREASED SINCE 2015. 
          WE'VE HAD A LOT OF NEW CONNECTIONS , SO I'LL ADD CONTEXT TO THAT. 
          THIS IS, WE TALKED ABOUT TUR GRASS WITH NEW HOME BUILDS, UM, A LOT OF, LOT OF HOMES BEING BUILT OVER THE LAST THREE TO FIVE YEARS. 
          MORE AND MORE OF THEM BUILDERS ARE INSTALLING IRRIGATION SYSTEMS JUST BY DEFAULT. 
          AND SO YOU ALMOST HAVE A ONE FOR ONE IRRIGATION PER HOUSEHOLD UNIT THAT'S BUILT ALL THOSE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. HOMEOWNERS ARE MORE LIKELY TO WATER THEIR LAWN AND DO IT IN A WAY THAT'S COMPLETELY HANDS OFF. 
          SO THE CONVENIENCE OF HAVING THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM MEANS THEY WATER THEIR YARDS MORE AND MAYBE THEY WATER 'EM ACCORDING TO, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE FINDING ON THE EDUCATION PIECE. 
          THEY PROBABLY HAVEN'T TOUCHED IT SINCE THEY MOVED IN. 
          THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR WATERING SCHEDULE IS, THEY JUST KNOW IT HAPPENS WHILE THEY SLEEP. 
          NO, THEY'RE NOT USER FRIENDLY. 
          IT'S VERY COMMON SYSTEMS . 
          QUICK QUESTION THAT BUT AREN'T WE REQUIRING THEM? LIKE THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BY DEFAULT, RIGHT? MM-HMM. 
          I THOUGHT WE REQUIRED IRRIGATION IN THE FRONT YARD. 
          THE WAY OUR ORDINANCE READS. 
          YOU HAVE TO HAVE A READILY AVAILABLE WATER SOURCE AND IT COULD BE YOU WITH THE WATERING CAN. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          AND THAT WAS REQUIRED BY L C WITH THAT 2005 UPDATE. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WITH THE WATER CAN. 
          SO, UM, TRYING TO FIT THIS IN A LARGER CONVERSATION, THE HELL'S IF, IF, IF THERE ARE LESS IRRIGATION SYSTEMS INSTALLED IN HOMES JUST AS A DEFAULT, AS A STANDARD, WE THINK THAT NATURALLY WILL REDUCE THE OVERALL DEMAND, ESPECIALLY PEAK DEMAND DURING THE HOT SUMMERS. 
          HOW DO WE GET TO THAT POINT? IS IT POTENTIALLY IMPACT FEES? IS IT, AND WE TALKED ABOUT INCENTIVIZING ZERO ESCAPING 
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OR DISINCENTIVIZING TURF GRASS IN A LOT OF WAYS, WHICH ULTIMATELY DISINCENTIVIZES THE NEED FOR A, A LARGE SYSTEM TO KEEP THAT TURF GRASS ALIVE. 
          SO THIS WAS JUST TRYING TO SHOW YOU THE, THE, THE HUGE AMOUNT OF, OF IRRIGATION SYSTEMS THAT EXIST WITHIN OUR CITY THAT ARE ALL CONTRIBUTING DURING PEAK TIMES TO OUR WATER DEMANDS. 
          AND WHAT, MIKE, ON THE FUTURE ON THE UPCOMING SLIDE, DO YOU HAVE, UM, THE IMPACT FEE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE RESEARCHING? UM, WELL WE'LL GO BACK CUZ THIS WAS KIND OF THIS, THIS WAS KIND OF IT. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BULLET POINTS BECAUSE IT'S STILL STILL EARLY IN OUR DISCUSSION, BUT THIS IS REALLY MEANT TO CONVEY, TO COUNSEL WHAT AT THE STAFF LEVEL WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IF IRRIGATION SYSTEMS ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS, WHAT LEVERS CAN WE PULL? UH, I KEEP USING THAT, UH, EXAMPLE, WHAT LEVERS CAN WE PULL? HOW CAN WE KEEP, UM, EVEN THOUGH IRRIGATION SYSTEMS ARE CONVENIENT, THEY KEEP LAWNS GREEN, IT'S EASY FOR PEOPLE TO USE, BUT IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT MOVING IN, HOW LIKELY ARE THEY TO SPEND THE MONEY TO INSTALL IT AFTER THE FACT? SAME THING WITH ZERO ESCAPING. 
          SAME THING WITH TURF. 
          IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT WHEN THEY WALKED IN THE DOOR, HOW LIKELY ARE THEY TO SPEND THE MONEY AND INVEST IN PUTTING IT IN WHEN ULTIMATELY IT'S BETTER FOR OUR OVERALL SYSTEM TO DO SO? SO DO WE PROHIBIT IT OUTRIGHT? CAN WE DO THAT LEGALLY? WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS AND NOT, NOT NECESSARILY SAYING WE'RE GONNA BRING SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO COUNCIL RIGHT AWAY, BUT WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS? IF, IF WE CAN REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SYSTEMS IN THE GROUND, WE THINK THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY TO REDUCING FUTURE DEMAND. 
          SO, UM, I, GO AHEAD. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY ONE OF THE GENERAL THOUGHTS, AND WE'RE GONNA SEE HOW LEGAL, HOW FAR PAGE CAN LET US PUSH IT, IS IF YOU HAD A, LET'S SAY AN IMPACT FEE FOR IRRIGATION SYSTEMS AND IT WAS FAIRLY HIGH, THAT WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY A DISINCENTIVE, BUT YOU KNOW, ZERO ESCAPE OR HOWEVER I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY IT, IF THAT ACTUALLY COSTS MORE ON THE FRONT END BUT ALSO SAVES YOU MONEY LONG TERM, COULD THAT BE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CARROT AND STICK? OR COULD IT BE THAT YES, YOU GET, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO PAY FOR THE IMPACT FEE OR IF YOU GO ZERO ESCAPE, IT WORKS OUT TO BE A NET BECAUSE YOUR, YOUR ACTUAL LANDSCAPING COSTS MORE ON THE FRONT END, BUT YOU'RE NOT PAYING THAT IMPACT FEE. 
          PLUS IT'S SAVING YOU MONEY OVER TIME AND THEN WORKING WITH BILL TO, TO REALLY BUILD MODELS TO SHOW THAT MAYBE EV EVERY TIME, UH, SOMEONE COMES INTO A HOME SALES CENTER, WE PROVIDE THAT, UH, TO TOAL THE SALESMAN, YOU KNOW, FRONT OFFICE THAT HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS IMPACT FEE, YOU CAN GO THIS WAY OR YOU DON'T PAY IT ON THIS. 
          AND THEN ALSO YOU'LL SAVE MONEY OVER, OVER THE LONG HAUL. 
          SO CARROT AND STICK, BOTH TO THE EXTENT WE CAN LEGALLY DO IT. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE HBA ON? IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THAT'S, THEY HAVE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT SOME SOLUTIONS THAT, I MEAN WE, THIS CAN'T BE UNIQUE TO JUST LEANDER. 
          SO I'LL ADD A TO THE LIST FOR OUR PENDING MEETINGS. 
          LET US KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO COUNSEL HAD ASKED, UM, BACK IN OCTOBER WHEN, UM, WHEN YOU APPROVED A RESOLUTION TO KIND OF PUT THE MESSAGE OUT TO OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE STRATEGIC WITH GROWTH AND PARTICULARLY RESIDENTIAL GROWTH. 
          ROBIN HAS SHARED SOME INFORMATION AND, AND DAN HAS SHARED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT OUR GROWTH, BASICALLY OUR GROWTH UP TO THIS POINT AND OUR PROJECTIONS POSSIBLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND LONG-TERM FUTURE. 
          YOU SEE A LOT OF MULTI-FAMILY ENTITLED NOT BUILT. 
          YOU SEE A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY ENTITLED NOT BUILT. 
          SO WE HAVE LOTS AND LOTS AHEAD OF US. 
          BUT THIS IS LOOKING BACK, SO THIS IS, WE, WE TRY TO TAKE A SAMPLE OF THE DIFFERENT USE COMPONENTS UNDER OUR RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE THE USES AND, AND HOW DO THEY DIFFER? NOW THIS, NONE OF THIS IS ULTIMATELY CONCLUSIVE OF ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING OR TRENDING. 
          WE'RE SIMPLY LOOKING AT DATA AND, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT TELLS US. 
          SO WHAT WE DID WAS, AND, AND ROBIN'S PLANNING STAFF DID A GREAT JOB AT PULLING THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER. 
          WE TRIED TO TAKE FOOT SIMILAR FOOTPRINTS FROM EACH OF THESE USE COMPONENTS, PULL THE NUMBER, PULL THE UNITS FROM THEM, AND THEN PULL THE WATER DATA FROM THEM. 
          IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, DAN. 
          SO WE, WE BASICALLY DREW FOOTPRINTS FROM EACH INDIVIDUAL USE COMPONENT FROM EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS. 
          AND IN TRYING TO COMPARE APPLES, WE, WE CHOSE 27 TO 28 ACRES THAT WAS ROUGHLY THE SIZE OF A MULTI-FAMILY FOOTPRINT. 
          UM, AND THEN WE TOOK THE POTENTIAL SUMMER AND POTENTIAL WINTER WE CHOSE NOVEMBER AND JUNE BECAUSE OVER THE THREE YEARS WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OUTAGES DURING THOSE MONTHS . 
          UM, SO 
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WE DID AVOID THE MOST EXTREMES, WHICH PROBABLY WOULD'VE GIVEN US A BETTER PICTURE, BUT THIS GAVE US MORE CONSISTENT DATA AND WE DID, WE STILL FOUND SOME, I GUESS SOME OUTLIERS AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND TOO. 
          BUT, UH, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, DAN. 
          SO OF OUR EVALUATION FROM SAMPLES OF EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES, WE TOOK THE, THE LOW USERS AND THE HIGH USERS FROM WINTER, WINTER MAY, NOVEMBER AND SUMMER, UM, BEING JUNE AT THE TIME. 
          SO LOW IS OBVIOUSLY WHAT WE WANT. 
          LOW ACROSS THE BOARD IS ALWAYS WHAT WE WANT AND HIGH IS, IS WHAT WE DON'T WANT. 
          WHAT WE SAW AS MAYBE POSSIBLY A TREND WAS THAT, UH, AS WE GOT INTO THE MORE, UH, DENSE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CATEGORIES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MULTI-FAMILY, YOU SAW MORE USE, YOU SAW EACH UNIT. 
          SO THINK ABOUT MORE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS PER UNIT. 
          YOU SAW GENERALLY HIGHER USE TREND. 
          UM, WE ALSO HAD, IF YOU LOOK AT SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN, THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR IN GENERAL, THAT PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION JUST IN GENERAL IS A HIGH USER YEAR IN, YEAR OUT. 
          UM, SO IT WASN'T NECESSARILY, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS INDICATIVE OF THE CATEGORIES THEMSELVES, BUT CERTAINLY GAVE US A PICTURE OF I THINK WHAT COUNCIL IS DOING AND, AND WHERE IT'S GOING WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT IT HAS ON THE TABLE, WHICH IS THAT REZONING PRIORITIES RESOLUTION. 
          IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE TAKING THE RIGHT APPROACH. 
          WE'RE STILL COLLECTING DATA AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, TO MAXIMIZE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          BUT THIS IS A LOOK AT HOW WE CAN BE STRATEGIC FROM THE ZONING SIDE OF THINGS FROM PARTICULARLY RESIDENTIAL ZONING. 
          SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE THEN, SO THAT'S YOUR BREAKDOWN. 
          HERE'S MORE OF A BAR CHART THAT SHOWS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME DATA. 
          AND IF YOU SEE A LARGER DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WINTER AVERAGE AND THE SUMMER RAVAGE, TO US THAT SAYS IRRIGATION, IRRIGATION, IRRIGATION, THE, THE LOWER, IF YOU SEE A VERY SMALL DIFFERENTIAL, AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT ON GENERAL COMMERCIAL MULTI-FAMILY AND SINGLE-FAMILY URBAN, UH, MOBILE HOME, NO IRRIGATION SYSTEMS OR LIMITED IRRIGATION, ESPECIALLY PER UNIT. 
          AND WE KNOW THERE'S THAT A LOT OF THE APARTMENTS AND MULTI-FAMILY HAVE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, BUT NOT TO THE EFFECT THAT SOME OF YOUR DENSE RESIDENTIAL AND EVEN SOME OF YOUR ESTATE AND SUBURBAN HAVE. 
          SO GO AHEAD. 
          ONE THING I WILL TAKE, I WANTED TO, SINCE THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE PAST, UH, AND THIS ISN'T SAYING YES, WE JUST NEED MOBILE HOME PARKS, BUT FROM THE IRRIGATION STANDPOINT, AND WE'VE SAID THIS BEFORE AND PART OF OUR PRESENT PROBLEM IS ADDING TOO MANY CONNECTIONS FASTER AND IRRIGATION OBVIOUSLY FASTER THAN THE DEEP WATER INTAKE IN TWO, A INHERENTLY MULTI-FAMILY IS MUCH MORE EFFICIENT THAN, LET'S SAY SINGLE FAMILY WITH BLOW AND GO IRRIGATION EVERYWHERE. 
          ONE ACRE LOTS. 
          THAT MEANS THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE SUGGESTING LET'S RUN OUT AND BUILD MORE MULTI-FAMILY. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SAYING. 
          WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE NEED TO CLOSE THAT GAP ON THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT CREATES THE PROBLEM. 
          AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF EVERYBODY RUNS THROUGH THE DOOR WITH SINGLE OR MULTI-FAMILY, WE STILL HAVE A A NET CONNECTION PROBLEM. 
          NOT INCLUDING IF WE HIT A, A DOWNTURN, BUT AGAIN, UH, THAT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS, BIG PICTURE, UH, RELATED TO THIS. 
          I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU ALSO COULD HAVE THE FLIP ARGUMENT OF ONCE YOU START LOOKING AT ROADS, IT'S A DIFFERENT PROBLEM. 
          YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT LARGE LOT WITH IRRIGATION AND LET'S SAY EACH LOT OF 27 ACRES, IT'S ONE ACRE. 
          YOU'VE GOT 27 HOMES VERSUS SAY 500 UNITS OF APARTMENTS, YOUR NEED TO UPGRADE THAT ROAD, THERE'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANIMAL ALSO. 
          YOU HAVE A MORE IMMEDIATE NEED WITH THAT. 
          BUT WE DO THINK THAT WE, IN A PERFECT WORLD, WE NEED TO CLOSE THAT GAP ON THE SINGLE FAMILY AND REDUCE THAT USAGE ON ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD REGARDLESS OF DEEP WATER INTAKE GETTING COMPLETED ON THE MULTI-FAMILY SIDE. 
          WE'VE NEVER SAID THERE'S NOT A PLACE FOR IT, BUT IT ALL CAN'T BE MULTI-FAMILY OVERNIGHT. 
          AND THERE IS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TOO THAT MANY CITIES HAVE MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO KIND OF LIMIT THE TOTAL PERCENTAGE OUT OF EVERYTHING, SINGLE VERSUS MULTI-FAMILY IN PART TO PROBABLY ENCOURAGE A LESS TRANSIENT APPROACH TO YOUR CITY KNOWING THAT MOST, YOU KNOW, OWNER-OCCUPIED HOMES, PEOPLE TAKE BETTER CARE OF THEM LONG TERM, SO FORTH. 
          THEY'RE NOT JUST HERE FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN MOVE ON. 
          SO, BUT FROM A A CORE STANDPOINT, YES, UH, MULTI-FAMILY, AT LEAST AS OUR CURRENT IRRIGATION SITUATION 
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IS, IS MORE EFFICIENT PER UNIT. 
          AND WE DID SAY THAT, UH, SOME TIME AGO. 
          UH, BUT EVEN BETTER THAN THAT, OUR MOBILE HOME PARKS. 
          WELL, AND, AND UH, I'LL KIND OF GO BACK TO OUR EXAMPLE FROM JUST UM, SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER WHERE WE DID GET COMPLIANCE TO REDUCE THE OVERALL USE, UM, TO WINTER LEVELS, UH, ALMOST IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER. 
          THE, THE ONES THAT HAVE THE LARGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WINTER AND SUMMER, THAT'S NON-ESSENTIAL USE. 
          WHEN IF YOU HAD NOTHING BUT, AND NOT SAYING THAT WE WOULD, BUT IF YOU HAD FAR MORE MULTI-FAMILY, THAT WOULD BE MUCH HARDER TO PEEL BACK BECAUSE THAT'S ESSENTIAL USE. 
          OUR ENFORCEMENT WOULD NOT HAVE AS GREAT AN IMPACT ON THAT BECAUSE WE COULDN'T TURN OFF SYSTEMS THAT, UH, ARE SUPPLYING ESSENTIAL USES. 
          UM, SO WHEN WE THINK OF THE, THE GAPS HERE, THIS IS A POINT IN TIME. 
          IT'S NOT INDICATIVE OF THESE CATEGORIES, UH, OR SHOULD IT SET EXPECTATIONS. 
          BUT IF YOU GO ONE MORE DAN WE DID, HOLD ON. 
          SORRY, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          REAL QUICK, WHY IS COTTAGE HOUSING SO HIGH? IS THAT JUST AN ANOMALY? BECAUSE THERE ISN'T MUCH OF IT? UH, UH, WE DO KNOW ACTUALLY WHAT WE DO THINK THAT IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO THAT, YOU'RE 2015, IT'S JUST, AND ROBIN CAN CORRECT ME WHEN THAT THOSE SMALL HOUSING PRODUCTS. 
          SO IF LET'S DRIVE, THINK ABOUT MENTALLY DRIVE THROUGH OAK CREEK WHERE YOU HAVE HOUSES THAT WERE FAIRLY SMALL BUT ALSO HAVE ALL HAVE IRRIGATION. 
          BUT I THOUGHT WE HAVE COTTAGE HOUSING BACK THEN. 
          THIS EXAMPLE IS TRAILS AT LEANDER ON BAGHDAD. 
          OH, THAT, THAT'S YOUR SAMPLE ON THAT ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND UM, THEY HAVE A LOT OF COMMON GREEN SPACE AND THEY HAVE THAT RIP REPAIRING CORRIDOR THAT GOES THROUGH THE CENTER. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO I IMAGINE THEY'RE KEEPING THAT VERY NICE, VERY LUSH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SORRY. 
          GOING. 
          SO, UH, AND HONESTLY THAT'S KIND OF, WE DID WANT TO COLLECT THAT DATA BECAUSE WE TOLD COUNSEL WE WOULD, UM, WE, AND, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE IDENTIFIED SURELY THAT THERE, THERE'S VARIABLES HERE THAT DON'T MAKE THIS, UH, CONCLUSIVE OF, OF MUCH, BUT IT DOES GIVE US AN INDICATION OF HOW WE ANALYZE DATA, HOW WE LOOK AT IT, MAYBE HOW WE USE IT TO MAKE DECISIONS IN THE FUTURE. 
          CERTAINLY AMI TECHNOLOGY WILL PROVIDE A HUGE BENEFIT TO MAKING THINGS THAT WE DO LIKE THIS, THESE TYPE OF ANALYSES MORE RELIABLE. 
          BUT IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL BRING UP THAT KIND OF PUT CONTEXT TO THIS. 
          THE SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE DIDN'T HAVE A PREVALENCE OF IRRIGATION SYSTEMS BECAUSE IT WAS A MUCH OLDER DEVELOPMENT THAN, UH, MOST OF THE ONES WE WERE COMPARING. 
          UM, AND THAT GOES BACK TO, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS AGO, MAYBE 10 OR MORE YEARS AGO, UH, TIMBERLINE. 
          OH, THAT EXISTED BEFORE THE CITY. 
          YEAH, SO IT WAS XANAX. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS BECAME MORE OF A DEFAULT AND ARE NOW MORE OF A DEFAULT IN NEW HOME BUILDS. 
          THAT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE. 
          THAT'S WHY THAT NUMBER WAS MUCH LOWER. 
          UM, AND SO AND SO THAT THAT COULD BE YOUR EXAMPLE IF YOU TWEAKED YOUR IRRIGATION REQUIREMENTS FOR LARGE LOT KIND OF WHAT THE OUTCOME COULD BE. 
          SO YOU HAVE AN AN IDEA OF WHERE IT COULD GO IN OUR TOWN HOME EXAMPLES, ALTHOUGH THEY DID SHOW SOME MORE EXTREME USES, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE A COMPLETE PICTURE OF EITHER ONE. 
          EITHER WE COULDN'T GET A LARGE ENOUGH FOOTPRINT, UH, OR WE DID NOT HAVE A COMPLETE USAGE BECAUSE THEY'RE SO NEW. 
          UM, CRYSTAL SPRINGS I THINK WAS ONE OF THEM THAT WE LOOKED AT. 
          AND THEN WHAT CONCLUSIONS DID WE REALLY DRAW? WE KNEW WE, AND THIS GOES BACK TO GIVING YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. UH, WE KNOW THEY HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON THE SUMMER AND WINTER VARIANCES. 
          SO THAT MAY BE A A, A NEW TARGET FOR US TO LOOK AT HOW OUR POLICIES CAN POTENTIALLY REDUCE THAT CAUSE OF OUR, OF OUR HIGH DEMAND. 
          AND THEN WE KNOW ALSO THAT POSSIBLY AUGUST AND FEBRUARY ARE, OR BETTER, UH, SEASONAL EXTREMES THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT IS IF WE CAN GET A MORE CONSISTENT PICTURE OF THOSE AND NOT HAVE, UH, LARGE GAPS AND OUTAGES THAT IMPACT, UH, THAT DATA, THEN WE'LL CERTAINLY DO THAT. 
          AND THEN AMI WILL GIVE US A MUCH MORE REFINED APPROACH TO ANALYZING DATA AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE WANT TO ADDRESS PEAK HOUR AND PEAK DAY. 
          BUT, UM, AND THEN WE COVERED SOME OF THIS, BUT, BUT ESSENTIALLY WITH THE LARGE NUMBER OF ENTITLED UNITS, LOOKING AT THAT DATA AND USAGE FROM THE DEVELOPED LOTS, UM, MAY GIVE US A, A BETTER APPROACH TO HOW WE ADDRESS THINGS GOING FORWARD. 
          CAN YOU GO BACK ONE BACK TO, SO THIS ONE, UM, I THINK IT'S, IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, THEY'RE KIND OF SCARY. 
          UM, THE, THE TOP ROW WITH APARTMENTS, UM, I JUST DID THE MASK. 
          SO WE HAVE EIGHT COMPLEXES THAT, UM, ARE PLANNED, MEANING THEY HAVE ZONING IN PLACE TO ALLOW, SO THEY HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SUBMITTED ANYTHING. 
          WE HAVE SEVEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THEN THREE UNDER REVIEW. 
          UM, SO IT FEELS LIKE THEY'RE KIND OF, IT'S REDUCING A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, AND WITH THE, THE TOWNHOUSES WE HAVE UH, FIVE DEVELOPMENTS, UM, THAT ARE PLANNED, FIVE UNDER CONSTRUCTION 
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AND THREE UNDER REVIEW. 
          SO I DUNNO IF THAT'S HELPFUL FOR PERSPECTIVE. 
          USUALLY OUR APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE ABOUT 300 UNITS. 
          I THINK WE'RE READY FOR THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, WHEN WE ADOPTED THE WATER RESOLUTION, UM, ONE OF THE, THE THINGS WE WANTED TO SEE WAS A, UM, TEMPORARY AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          PART OF UH, THE, THE STAFF ISSUE IS THAT WE HAVE THESE DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS, UM, EVERY WEEK WHERE WE TALK ABOUT DEVELOPERS AND WE DISCUSS PROJECTS AND WE ALWAYS START WITH, DO YOU HAVE YOUR ZONING? THEY USUALLY SAY NO. 
          SO THEN WE LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT THE PLAN SUPPORTS, LIKE WHAT THE COMPATIBLE USES ARE. 
          AND UM, IN ALL OF OUR OUR CENTERS, THERE'S SOME AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL THAT'S PERMITTED. 
          SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE ACTIVITY CENTER. 
          IT, UM, HAS A DESIRED MIX OF 70 TO A HUNDRED PERCENT NON-RESIDENTIAL AND ZERO TO 30 RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO THEY'LL SEE THAT AND THEY THINK, WELL THE CITY WANTS TO SEE RESIDENTIAL HERE CUZ IT SAYS IT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          AND IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE SEE IT AGAIN IN EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. 
          AND THIS ONE'S SUPER HARD BECAUSE EMPLOYMENT CENTER IS KIND OF WHERE WE HAVE THE LARGEST UNDEVELOPED AREAS AND WE WANNA SEE AN EMPLOYER COME THERE AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL WANNA FOCUS ON THAT 20% RESIDENTIAL AND PUT TOWN HOMES THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF IT. 
          AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS WHEN YOU GET YOUR CAMPUS STYLE DEVELOPER IN, THEY NOW HAVE ADDED SETBACKS TO DEAL WITH. 
          THEY'LL HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER THAT'S GONNA COMPLAIN WHEN THEY WANNA DO A DISTRIBUTION CENTER OR, OR SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES MORE, UM, INDUSTRIAL TYPE USAGE. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY HARD FOR STAFF. 
          AND THEN YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AND IT'S SIMILAR TO ACTIVITY WHERE IT WOULD ALLOW UP TO 30%, YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT ONE. 
          AND THEN URBAN MIXED USE. 
          UM, THIS ONE ALLOWS UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO WHEN WE HAVE SOMEONE COME IN WITH THAT, IT'S REALLY HARD, UM, TO TELL THEM, HEY, WE'RE CALLING IT URBAN MIXED USE, BUT WE ONLY WANNA SEE SUBURBAN LOTS HERE. 
          SO 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS. 
          SO IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO FORCE THE MARKET TO, TO ZONE FOR SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY CONTEMPLATE WITH OUR PLAN IN REACTION TO THE THE WATER ISSUE. 
          LEMME GO THE NEXT ONE. 
          SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, UM, SOMEONE IN, IN MY GROUP WHO'S FANTASTIC PUT TOGETHER THESE LITTLE SUMMARIES OF ALL THE ACTIVITY CENTERS. 
          AND SO EVERYTHING THAT'S KIND OF THE ORANGE COLOR, THAT'S COMMERCIAL AND THEN GREEN IS RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND WHEN WE SAY IT'S GREEN, THAT MEANS IT'S, UM, ZONED RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO IN THE THE TOP CORNER, HE HAS THE PERCENTAGES THAT I CAN'T READ. 
          LOOK AT MY BOOK. 
          SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS ONE, IT IS UH, 48% COMMERCIAL AND 37% RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO THIS ONE, UM, WHEN WE CREATED THE PLAN WAS ALREADY OUT OF SYNC WITH THE, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          SO IF WE HAVE SOMEONE COME IN THAT WANTS TO REZONE THEIR PROPERTY TO RESIDENTIAL, WE AUTOMATICALLY TELL 'EM NO. 
          RIGHT? CUZ IT DOESN'T MEET THE PLANS YOU HAVE TO A PLAN AMENDMENT. 
          DO YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT ONE? THIS IS ONE OF OUR MOST POPULAR CENTERS TO, TO TALK ABOUT. 
          AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE YELLOW, THAT'S UM, AN INTERIM DISTRICT. 
          SO IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S THE DISTRICT THAT IT CAME IN WITH WHEN IT WAS, WAS ANNEXED. 
          SO WE ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE THAT JUST CUZ IT'S RURAL RESIDENTIAL, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE WANNA SEE MORE RURAL USES. 
          SO THIS IS ONE, UM, WE'VE ZONED SOME SINGLE FAMILY ON THE WESTERN SIDE AND UM, WE KEEP GETTING MORE AND MORE REQUESTS FOR MORE RESIDENTIAL. 
          IT'S AT 14%. 
          SO TECHNICALLY BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE COULD SUPPORT 15 MORE PERCENT. 
          SO THAT MAKES IT KIND OF A HARD CONVERSATION. 
          YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT ONE? THIS ONE WE'VE HAD SOME, UM, RECENT ZONING CASES AND IT'S AT, UH, 10%, HOLD ON, 28% RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S GOT JUST A LITTLE BIT LEFT THAT COULD BE REZONED. 
          AND THEN YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT ONE? THOSE ARE OUR LAST CENTER SLIDE. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          UM, SO THIS ONE IS CURRENTLY 42% RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO THAT KIND OF ENCOMPASSES SOME EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SO THIS IS ONE WHERE IF SOMEONE CAME IN AND WANTED TO DO A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD SAY NO, NOT WITHOUT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE HAD SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME IN IN THEIR CENTER AND IT'S, IT'S ALLOWED FOR MORE RESIDENTIAL USES. 
          SO THEY'VE ASKED, UM, COULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR ZONING REQUEST AND, UM, ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SAYING WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY GONNA BUILD HOMES UNTIL THE WATER ISSUE IS SOLVED. 
          SO IT WOULD BE LIKE FIVE YEARS. 
          SO IT WOULD BE AN AGREEMENT THAT 
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SAYS YOU CAN'T SUBMIT PERMITS FOR FIVE YEARS. 
          UM, AND I I, I GET WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM BECAUSE SOMETIMES THAT TOWNHOUSE HOME USE IS THE APPROPRIATE TRANSITION BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, IT KIND OF TIES THE HANDS OF THE FUTURE COUNCIL AND STAFF BECAUSE IN FIVE YEARS THEY'LL BE FACED WITH THAT IF SOMETHING DOESN'T GO WELL WITH THE WATERLINE PLANS. 
          BUT I KNOW IT'LL BE FANTASTIC. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          SO IF THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE KIND OF THE QUESTIONS WE'RE FACED WITH IS LIKE, ARE YOU, ARE YOU GONNA FORCE A USE THAT MAYBE DOESN'T FIT TO ADDRESS THE WATER ISSUE? SO I KNOW THIS WAS THE LAST SLIDE, UM, FOR WATER AND, AND I'VE STATED THIS BEFORE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, IS THAT, UH, THERE IS A WATER CONCERN BETWEEN WATER DEMAND AND, AND, AND WATER TREATMENT OR CAPACITY. 
          THE DILEMMA IS THAT IT'S SOMEWHAT SHORT-LIVED AND I'VE SAID THAT BEFORE, MEANING IT'S FIVE YEARS NOW. 
          EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING IS GREAT, BUT A LITTLE FOOD FOR THOUGHT IS THAT ROBERT BROUGHT UP THE WHOLE IDEA OF A VISION AND, AND WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, AND I WANNA REMIND THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOUR BUCKET IS 62 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. 
          AND THAT'S FLAT OUT USING EVERY BIT OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO PROVIDE THAT WATER. 
          SO WHAT DO YOU WANT THAT TO LOOK LIKE? EVEN WHEN WE GET TO THE 44 AND WE'RE COMFORTABLE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HAVE ROOM TO KEEP A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CAPACITY FOR INDUSTRY AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET A COMPANY THAT COMES IN AND SAYS, I WANT 2 MILLION GALLONS A DAY OF WATER. 
          UM, WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT AND, AND WORK TOWARDS THAT. 
          SO NOT ONLY ARE WE DOING SOME SHORT-LIVED THINGS AND, AND, AND UM, UH, SHORT TERM GOALS, SOME MID-TERM GOALS, BUT THE LONG-TERM GOAL IS TO REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE WE ARE AND THEN IF WE DO THAT, HOW FAST WE HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNER CITIES TO BUILD THE NEXT TWO PHASES AND, AND SO FORTH. 
          SO, UM, JUST KIND OF A REMINDER THAT WE'RE KIND OF FOCUSED IN ON THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, BUT FIVE YEARS WILL GO BY PRETTY QUICK. 
          AND THEN AFTER THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DID WE, YOU KNOW, YOU THE COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC AND US THE CITY, AND WHAT DO WE WANNA DO WITH OUR 62 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER? UM, WHERE IS THAT, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THE 62? SO AGAIN, THE ULTIMATE BUILD OUT IS THAT THE WATER, THAT'S A, THAT'S A BUILD OUT OF THE B C R U A AT 50. 
          THAT'S WA THAT'S OUR OF WATER CAPACITY. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO 44 VERSUS 62, I'M, YOU'VE LOST ME. 
          I, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD 60. 
          THOSE ARE THE PHASES. 
          YEAH. 
          AFTER THE, WE GET TO THE 44 44 NEXT PHASE AND WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT YET. 
          WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING. 
          THAT'S PHASE TWO B. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE LAST PHASE IS THREE. 
          AND THAT GETS US UP TO THEN NOT 62, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT 15 YEARS OR SAY 20 YEARS AS YOU'RE BUILDING OUT. 
          AND THEN YOU GET AN INDUSTRY COMES IN AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, I WANT 2 MILLION, WELL THAT TAKES AWAY 2 MILLION, RIGHT? THEN NOW YOU'RE DOWN TO 60 FOR WHATEVER YOU WANT. 
          AND IF SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN AND SAYS, I WANT A MILLION AND NOW YOU'RE DOWN TO 59 AND AND SO FORTH. 
          SO JUST, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE BIG PICTURE THINGS. 
          YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU SO MAX, WHAT YOU WANT YOUR BUILT OUT 62. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW WE DID TALK ABOUT THE EXTRA POTENTIALLY FOUR, 4 MILLION GALLONS WITH UH, AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME OUTSIDE CITIES LIKE LIBERTY HILL, I'M JUST GONNA PUT IT OUT THERE THAT THEY'RE GONNA LOOK TO US, WE'RE A WHOLESALE CUSTOMER IN A WAY AND THEY'RE GONNA LOOK TO US AND SAY, HEY, WE, WE WANNA LEARN MORE. 
          SO I MIGHT BE ANOTHER MILLION THAT GOES AWAY THAT, THAT WE'RE GONNA SELL TO THEM. 
          AND, AND NOT THAT IT'S GOOD OR BAD, IT'S JUST UM, PART OF THE PROCESS OF THINKING. 
          BUT, BUT ONE THING DAN'S ALSO BROUGHT UP THOUGH, THROUGH ALL THESE, HOW EFFICIENTLY WE USE THOSE FUTURE MILLIONS OF GALLONS A DAY PER ACRE IS GONNA TELL US HOW MUCH ECONOMIC CAPACITY WE CAN ALSO BUILD AND, AND TAX BASE A VALOR, SALES, EVERYTHING. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL HOW FAR YOU CAN STRETCH IT OUT INTO THE FUTURE, EACH PHASE AND WHAT YOU CAN SUPPORT WITH THAT 62 ULTIMATELY. 
          SO THE CITY MANAGER BROUGHT A A FANTASTIC POINT. 
          SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IRRIGATION AND IF YOU'RE NOT USING THE WATER ON THE GROUND, YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE. 
          AND GEORGETOWN HAS ON YOUR WEBSITE THAT IF YOU QUIT WATERING, WE CAN STRETCH OUR WATER FOR FIVE MORE YEARS. 
          CAUSE I KNOW I'M, I'M PARAPHRASING THAT, BUT THEY HAVE SOMETHING ON HERE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, HEY, IF WE, IF WE CUT BACK ON OUR IRRIGATION, YOU KNOW, WE CAN USE IT FOR, FOR OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL MAYBE IN THE LONG RUN. 
          SO SEA MANAGER'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON THAT. 
          UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING, COULD YOU GO BACK THROUGH A FEW OF THOSE LAND USE SCENARIOS JUST REAL QUICK ON THE SCREEN, MIKE, HE'S DOING IT. 
          UM, I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT MAY HAVE HAD MORE RESIDENTIAL ON. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          WELL I THINK HERE'S THE OTHER LARGER 
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QUESTION. 
          AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE, THEY'RE THIS NOT JUST WATER, BUT THIS IS ALSO PAYING THE BILLS. 
          NOTICE IN SOME CASES SOME OF THESE MAJOR NODES, HOW MUCH RESIDENTIAL IS ACTUALLY PROPOSED ON FRONTAGE. 
          YOU'RE ONLY GONNA GET SO MUCH FRONTAGE AND SO MANY HARD CORNERS. 
          SO I THINK AS THESE ARE LOOKED AT, IT'S A BALANCE TOO OF THE WATER, THE TIMING AND PAYING THE BILLS AND THE DEFICIT OF, OF COMMERCIAL LONG TERM. 
          AND SO WHEN, WHEN APPLICANTS COME TO Y'ALL WITH PROPOSALS, HOW DOES IT ENHANCE BOTH, HOW DOES IT ENHANCE WATER AND TAX BASE IS ANOTH. 
          I THINK THAT THAT'S THE CONUNDRUM MORE ACT. 
          DOES DOES, UM, COUNCIL PROBABLY RECOGNIZES THAT THAT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, UH, INTERIM IS BRYSON FARMSTEAD. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, UH, DO Y'ALL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OR ARE YOU LOOKING FOR IDEAS? I WAS LOOKING FOR IDEAS. 
          SO WE HAVE TO WORK ON A, A TEMPORARY AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE TO, TO HELP STAFF MAKE CLEAR DIRECTION TO THE PUBLIC. 
          AND WE WANNA PUT IT ONLINE TOO FOR WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THE SITE SO THEY KIND OF KNOW, UM, WHAT TO DO. 
          AND I THINK ONE OF OUR, OUR OTHER CONCERNS IN ADDITION TO THE WATER IS WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE COME IN IN THESE EMPLOYMENT CENTERS AND ACTIVITY CENTERS AND START PROPOSING RESIDENTIAL, HOW IT LIMITS THE FUTURE FOR COMMERCIAL. 
          UM, SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT IS, UM, NOT ALLOWING RESIDENTIAL IN PLACES LIKE THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER. 
          UM, CUZ WE DO WANNA SEE BIGGER AND I CAN LET, UH, ASHLEY SPEAK TO THAT MORE LIKE WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT SHE'S GETTING REQUESTS FOR, BUT IT FEELS LIKE A LOT OF DISTRIBUTION, UM, THAT I'VE HEARD SO THAT IT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL NEXT TO BIG TRUCKS GOING IN AND OUT. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALWAYS ON OUR, OUR MINDS IS WE WANNA RESERVE LAND FOR COMMERCIAL USES. 
          AND THIS IS IN THOSE BIG CIRCLES, IT'S NOT THE WHOLE CITY. 
          SO YOU STILL HAVE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND WE CAN'T SAY ZERO RESIDENTIAL UNTIL COMMERCIAL IN THE CENTER, LIKE, UH, WELL WE CAN'T PREPARE IT THROUGH WELL. 
          SO LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER, IT SAYS THAT THE, UM, DESIRED MIX IS ZERO RESIDENTIAL TO 20. 
          SO WE COULD CHANGE IT TO SAY ZERO IN THAT AREA. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL IN THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER. 
          I'M WONDERING, OKAY, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THAT, BUT WE DON'T ALLOW CERTAIN THINGS, LIKE SOME PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME TO US WITH, YOU KNOW, AN EMPLOYMENT THING OR A RETAIL THING THAT'S MIXED USE. 
          I DON'T, THAT'S THAT'S IN HERE. 
          UM, SO IN THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER DESCRIPTION, IT ALLOWS FOR THE VERTICAL MIXED USE WHERE YOU HAVE THE UH, COMMERCIAL IN THE BOTTOM. 
          IT JUST DOESN'T ALLOW STANDALONE RESIDENTIAL. 
          BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DON'T WANT RESIDENTIAL. 
          THIS SHOULD BE 100%, UM, NON-RESIDENTIAL, BUT COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER UP TO 10% OR 20% WITH A MIXED USE PROJECT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WELL IT'S UP TO 20%. 
          AND SO MY PROJECT IS EXACTLY 20% OR WITHIN THAT 20% OF THE THE AREA. 
          WOULD THAT WORK? IS THAT SOMETHING I THINK IT IS. 
          AND WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY WOULD SOME HAVE DONE IS ALMOST WEAPONIZED IT. 
          HEY, I'LL BRING THE 80% OF, BUT I WANT BRING THE 20% OF RESIDENTIAL FIRST. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I, BY THE WAY, I DON'T BUILD, IT'S, I'M NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF BUILDING THE OTHER. 
          WE'LL GET TO THAT LATER. 
          MM-HMM. 
           AND THEN THE LATER NEVER COMES. 
          IT'S SAYS GAR BRICK SONG TOMORROW, NEVER GO. 
          SO WE COULD SAY THE DESIRED MIX IS A HUNDRED PERCENT NON-RESIDENTIAL AND HAVE A CAVEAT THAT IT COULD BE SUPPORTED IF IT WAS PART OF A MIXED USE. 
          BUT WE'D WANNA SAY, LIKE, CONSIDER IT. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'D WANNA SAY VERTICAL MIXED USE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO CUZ WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO DEFINE IT DIFFERENTLY WHERE THEY SAY, OH, TOWNHOMES NEXT TO AN INDUSTRIAL PLANT'S. 
          GOOD. 
          WELL, IF IT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE SAME DEVELOPMENT, I DON'T THINK WE'D HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TOWNHOMES INSTEAD OF VERTICAL. 
          UM, AS LONG AS THEY'RE ABLE TO SAY LIKE, THIS IS ALL THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA DO. 
          AND WE'RE GETTING COS ON COMMERCIAL BEFORE WE DO COS ON RESIDENTIAL. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S WIGGLE ROOM. 
          UM, Y'ALL KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO, YOU CANNOT DO. 
          LIKE, I WANT YOUR LIFE TO BE EASIER. 
          AND I KNOW I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THINGS, A LOT OF THE FRUSTRATION AT P AND Z WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PERCENTAGES. 
          AND SO WHATEVER ENABLES YOU TO BE LIKE, NOT COMMERCIAL, JUST GO BUILD THE COMMERCIAL. 
          SO WE COULD WORK ON A PROPOSAL MAYBE AND THEN BRING IT FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION BEFORE WE START PUBLIC NOTICES AND KIND OF COME SOME IDEAS. 
          WERE THESE ALL THE ACTIVITY CENTERS AND YES, THOSE WERE ALL THE ACTIVITY CENTERS IN THE PICTURES, HONESTLY. 
          ARE THEY ALL KIND OF LOOKED ABOUT MAXED OUT ON RESIDENTIAL? THEY'RE NOT. 
          UM, IF YOU SCROLL THROUGH 'EM, SO, EXCUSE ME, THE INTERIM. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THIS ONE I WOULD SAY IS PRETTY CLOSE. 
          GO TO THE NEXT ONE. 
          SO THIS ONE'S NOT ALL THAT YELLOW'S INTERIM, SO YEAH. 
          WHAT ROADS ARE THOSE? UM, SO THAT'S RONALD REAGAN IN THE CENTER AND 
          [04:00:01]
THAT'S HERE WAY AT THE TOP. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THEN 2243 AT THE BOTTOM. 
          I'M KIND OF GOOD WITH THAT. 
          WITH IT ALL BEING RESIDENTIAL, NOT RESIDENTIAL. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT FRONTAGE? THAT WAS THE EXAMPLE SAYING LIKE IT'S FULL. 
          OKAY. 
          LIKE SAYING THAT'S ALL COMMERCIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          I SEE. 
          SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          LIKE I'D BE GOOD WITH THAT UNLESS THERE'S A COMPELLING REASON TO SAY LIKE, I'M NOT GOOD AT MEASUREMENT IF THAT BACK PART HAS TO BE RESIDENTIAL. 
          LIKE I'M OKAY WITH THAT. 
          BUT I MEAN, ANYBODY THAT'S COMING IN WITH ANY OF THAT FRONTAGE, WE DON'T WANT THAT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WHAT'S THE GRAY IN THE MIDDLE? UM, IT'S IN THE E T J AND IT'S SUBJECT TO AN ANNEXATION AGREEMENT. 
          SO WHEN THEY CHOOSE TO DEVELOP THE AFTA ANNEX INTO THE CITY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT IT WOULD BE YELLOW IF IT WAS ALREADY XXX? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          OR IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH ON THESE AND FIND, YOU KNOW, ONES LIKE THIS AND JUST SORT OF DEFINE WHAT, WHAT YOU ALL THINK BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL AGREE ON REAGAN. 
          THAT'S NOT GONNA BE RESIDENTIAL. 
          WELL IF, IF IT IS, THEN WE'VE GOT A BIG LOST, UH, OPPORTUNITY AND, AND MORE YEAH. 
          UH, BLEED TO OUR RIGHT SISTER CITIES. 
          SO IF IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR YOU GUYS INSTEAD OF HAVING THE, YOU KNOW, MIXED PERCENTAGES TO JUST SAY EVEN MAYBE SHRINK DOWN THE CIRCLE AND SAY WITHIN THIS SMALLER CIRCLE IT'S 100% COMMERCIAL, YOU'RE NOT GETTING RESIDENTIAL THROUGH. 
          LIKE, I THINK YOU'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. 
          WELL REMEMBER THAT THE UH, HERE AWAY IS GONNA BE GOING THROUGH HERE, UM, STARTING CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR SUPPOSEDLY. 
          YEP. 
          YEP. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT UM, KIND OF CAME OUT OF COUNCIL'S DECISION TO PASS THE RESOLUTION, THE PRIORITIES RESOLUTION WAS THAT STAFF WOULD COME BACK WITH A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT BECAUSE THAT PROVIDED MORE TEETH. 
          NOW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE WITH THESE ACTIVITY CENTERS, THESE ARE LONG-TERM, THESE WOULD BE LONG-TERM CHANGES. 
          THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE WATER DEPENDENT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I THINK THE DIRECTION THAT MAYBE COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR IS, IS UH, PERMANENT CHANGE NOT SOMETHING THAT'S CONTINGENT UPON WATER CAPACITY. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          LIKE LOOKING AT THAT LONG-TERM VISION FOR THE CITY, DO WE WANNA BE A CITY OF JUST ROOFTOPS? NO. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WANNA HAVE THAT DIVERSIFIED BASE THAT CAN WEATHER WHATEVER STORM COMES TO US. 
          SO WE SAYING THIS WOULDN'T BE A TEMPORARY AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT. 
          THEY'RE ALL TEMPORARY. 
          PARDON? WELL, YEAH, ALL TEMPORARY. 
          WELL, WHEN I, WHEN I SAY THAT, I MEAN LIKE WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT EXPIRES, RIGHT? SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO UPDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE MORE OF A UPDATE TO THE PLAN INSTEAD OF A TEMPORARY ORDINANCE. 
          I'M FINE WITH IT IF YOU GUYS ARE SO SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND COME UP WITH THE PROPOSAL. 
          PERMIT IT UNTIL IT ISN'T. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THEN THE, THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME IN THAT WANT THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, AND THEY'RE IN A CENTER WHERE IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE. 
          UM, DO WE SUPPORT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SAYING THEY'RE GONNA DO THEIR RESIDENTIAL AFTER THE UM, WATER IS BUILT? I DON'T KNOW. 
          CAUSE THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING BETTER THAT COMES ALONG. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO GET, I DON'T WANNA HAVE ANYTHING WHERE WE'RE JUST A BLANKET NO. 
          TO SOME KIND OF GREAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S ONE OF THOSE LEVERS WE CAN PULL. 
          IF YOU'RE GONNA BRING SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA INCLUDE SOME RESIDENTIAL IN AN AREA THAT WE DON'T WANT IT, WELL HOW WATER EFFICIENT ARE YOU GONNA BE? WHAT, WHERE ARE YOU WILLING TO BEND FOR THAT? OR ARE YOU GOING TO PHASE IT IN AND BUILD ANOTHER PARK? YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I THINK ANYTHING, ANY CHANGES WE MAKE NEED TO BE BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW, NOT WHAT WE DON'T KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN FIVE YEARS, BUT WE DO KNOW, I MEAN WE HAVE A PRETTY CLEAR NEXT FIVE YEARS OF WHAT TO EXPECT. 
          SO I THINK I WOULD PERSONALLY, I WOULD BASE IT ON ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          KNOWING THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT LATER. 
          SOMETHING GREAT COMES IN THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          OR EVERYTHING. 
          TANKS. 
          I DON'T WANNA DO THAT. 
          . 
          SO IS THERE ANYWAY, CUZ ALL TOM'S, WHEN THEY DO COME IN AND THEY DO, LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO US DO THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE, RIGHT? AND THEN THEY PLAN ON SELLING OFF FOR THE COMMERCIAL. 
          IS THERE ANY WAY TO PREVENT IT? TIE THAT OR PREVENT YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT'S WHAT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I, I MEAN CUZ I THINK THE WATER THING. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I DON'T EVEN WANT TO COMMIT TO SOMETHING CUZ I MEAN, WHAT IF SOMETHING SCREWS UP AND IT'S SEVEN YEARS BEFORE THAT STUFF COMES ONLINE. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA, AND I THINK THAT'S THE POINT YOU WERE MAKING, CATHERINE IS, I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO THAT, BUT OH, BUT I, IS THERE A WAY TO GO WELL, YOU KNOW, WHO'S YOUR AGREEMENT AND WHO'S DOING THE COMMERCIAL AND WHERE ARE YOUR CONTRACTS THAT ARE SIGNED? AND YOU KNOW, AND TRY TO, WE'VE CREATED A, A COUPLE OF PUDS, LIKE THE GATEWAY 29 WHERE IT HAS COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AND WE'VE REQUIRED THE COMMERCIAL FIRST SO THEY HAVE THE PHASING. 
          SAME THING WITH LEANER SPRINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE'VE KIND OF PUSHED FOR THEM TO START THAT PART FIRST. 
          YEAH. 
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I THINK LEANDER SPRINGS WAS THE FIRST ONE, WELL BEFORE IT WAS LEANDER SPRINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          IT WAS LIKE THE FIRST ONE THAT CAME THROUGH. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WHERE WE WERE LIKE, YOU'RE GONNA GET COS ON YOUR COMMERCIAL BEFORE WE ISSUE ANY UN RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO IT PUTS THAT, THAT LEVER ON THEM OF YOU HAVE TO, TO DEVELOP THE COMMERCIAL, NOT JUST LEAVE THAT PAD OUT THERE FOR SALE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE STARTED DOING THAT, UH, WHEN I WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING THAT'S OKAY. 
          IS WHEN WE STARTED DOING SOME OF THAT. 
          BUT THE, THE BUT THE COMMERCIAL PIECE WOULD BE LIKE 10,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          MM-HMM. 
           20,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          IT'S, IT'S A DROP IN THE BUCKET. 
          MM-HMM. 
           IT, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS YOU, IF YOU RAMP THAT UP AND, AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA BOX OURSELVES IN A CORNER. 
          I WANT STAFF TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY IF SOMETHING MAKES SENSE. 
          BUT IF IT HELPS THE COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO SAY WE'RE NOT POST THE RESIDENTIAL. 
          BE LIKE, WE WANT THE COMMERCIAL PLANS. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S IT. 
          COMMERCIALS PRIORITY. 
          COMMERCIALS PRIORITY. 
          WE JUST USE THAT GRAPH AND SHOW LIKE YEAH, HERE'S THE PROBLEM THAT DOCK YEAH, I AGREE. 
          WE CAN DO THAT. 
          WE HAVE SO MANY AREAS OF TOWN YOU CAN BUILD RESIDENTIAL MM-HMM. 
          , I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM BEING REALLY STRICT IN THE AREAS THAT WE DON'T WANT IT MM-HMM. 
           AND TAKING IT OUT OF THE EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT. 
          YES, TOTALLY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN WHEN, UM, IT COMES UP TO BE UPDATED AGAIN IN FIVE YEARS, WE CAN TALK IF THERE'S SOMETHING NEW. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          DO YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE FROM US? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THAT THE END OF THIS ITEM OR DID Y'ALL HAVE MORE? UH, IT IS, I I WAS JUST GONNA SUMMARIZE. 
          SO, UM, AT LEAST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WILL COME BACK TO YOU. 
          UM, WE'LL LOOK AT, UM, CONSERVATION ORDINANCE UPDATES. 
          WE'LL LOOK AT A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND WE ARE, WE WILL BE, UM, LOOKING AT SOME REPORTING ONCE WE GET INTO THE SPRING. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE INTO THE SUMMER DOING SOME REPORTING THAT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID, UH, LEADING UP TO THE REPAIR. 
          AWESOME. 
          IS THERE ANY GUIDANCE ON THE TIER RATES? WE TALKED ABOUT TIER RATES. 
          OH YES. 
          UM, YOU SAW THAT THERE WAS REALLY NO IMPACT AT LEAST THIS PAST SUMMER. 
          UH, EVEN WITH TIERED RATES IN PLACE, THE TIER THREE CUSTOMERS DIDN'T PHASE 'EM AT ALL. 
          HAD NO IMPACT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, WHAT WE'RE ASKING COUNSEL, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR APPETITE FOR POSSIBLY LOOKING INTO MODIFYING THOSE? AND I KNOW THAT WE, WE'VE ONLY GONE THROUGH ONE SUMMER. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE BARELY, WE'RE JUST NOW IN A YEAR IN, AND, AND ROBERT CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THAT. 
          I JUST WANT TO SAY IT, IT MAY NOT BE TIME YET TO DISCUSS A, A RATE CHANGE SINCE WE'VE GOT A, UH, A RATE APPEAL BEFORE THE PUC. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW PROBLEMATIC THAT WOULD BE TO, UM, UH, CREATE ANOTHER CHANGE. 
          ALTHOUGH WE COULD CHANGE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, UM, WHICH IS WHERE OUR PROBLEM IS. 
          BUT, UM, PROBABLY NOT APPLY TO THE OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS UNTIL THAT GREAT CASE IS IS FINISHED. 
          SO, SO THAT'S ONE THAT'S COMPLICATED. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SHOWED US EARLIER WITH THE, THE USAGE, I'D LIKE TO SEE A BREAKDOWN ON THOSE TIER THREE USERS, WHICH ONES ARE ACTUALLY RESIDENTS AND WHICH ONES ARE MODEL HOMES AND WHICH ONES ARE OTHER. 
          CUZ I THINK, I THINK BASED ON THE CONVERSATION TODAY, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA MATTER FOR WHAT WE WANT FOR OTHER TIERS OR ENFORCEMENT OR WHATEVER. 
          IF OUR TOP 15 USERS ARE ALL MODEL HOMES, I THINK THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T. 
          SOME OF THEM ARE RESIDENCES. 
          I THINK WE SAW WHAT, LIKE MAYBE TWO OUT OF 10. 
          THO THOSE, THOSE DID NOT INCLUDE COMMERCIAL USERS. 
          THOSE, THOSE WERE EXCLUSIVELY RESIDENTIAL YES. 
          MODEL HOMES. 
          BUT A MAJORITY OF THE TIER THREE WERE ACTUAL RESIDENT USERS. 
          ARE THEY PREDOMINANTLY IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD? NO, BUT THERE'S SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE HISTORICALLY HIGH USERS. 
          WE, WE'VE GOT ABOUT A HALF DOZEN, I CAN GUESS WE DO KNOW WHICH ONES THOSE ARE. 
          AND THOSE, THOSE ARE CERTAINLY ONES THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT AS FAR AS EDUCATING. 
          AND THEN A LOT OF THE ALTERNATIVES THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED. 
          I KNOW SOME OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE REACHED OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, HEY, I WANT TO CONSIDER TURF GRASS, OR I MEAN, NOT TURF GRASS ASTROTURF, OR I WANT TO DO THIS OR THAT, BUT THERE'S A COST TO THAT AND WILL THE CITY INCENTIVIZE ME TO MAKE THAT CHANGE? SO YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT SOME OF THOSE FOLKS KNOWING NOW MORE EDUCATED ABOUT WHAT OUR LONG AND SHORT TERM WATER SITUATION IS. 
          MAYBE EXPLORING SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS THEMSELVES AND LOOKING AND SEEING WHETHER OUR FLEXIBILITY IS, UM, HAVE WE DONE OUTREACH TO ALL THE USERS IN TIER THREE? NO. 
          [04:10:01]
I, I STRUGGLE WITH TARGETING. 
          YEAH. 
          SPECIFICALLY HOUSES. 
          WE'VE DONE IT. 
          SO WE TRY TO DO IT AT THE, IT'S MORE LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD APPROACH, BUT LIKE HOW DO YOU NOTIFY THEM? LIKE, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T REALIZE YOU'RE IN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE NOT EVEN LOOKING AT YOUR BILL, YOU'RE JUST AUTOPAY IT MM-HMM. 
          , RIGHT? AND YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO AUTOPAY IT AND NOT LOOK AT IT, MAYBE YOU DON'T EVEN REALIZE THAT YOUR USAGE IS WAY HIGHER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          SO THIS, THIS IS PART OF OUR ENFORCEMENT STRATEGY. 
          AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, WHEN WE CREATE, UH, ROUTES FOR OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM AND PARTNERSHIP WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITY BILLING, WE DO IDENTIFY AS SUBDIVISION AREAS THAT HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF HIGH USERS. 
          AND WE LOOK FOR VIOLATIONS. 
          WE KNOW THAT THOSE USES CAN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT SOMEBODY WATERING EVERY SINGLE DAY, SIX TO EIGHT TO 10 TO 12 HOURS A DAY. 
          SO WE EXPECT THERE TO BE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE FOUND NOW IF WE'RE ACTUALLY OBSERVING THEM AT THE TIME THAT IT'S OCCURRING, WE CAN TAKE ACTION AND WE'VE DONE THAT. 
          UM, SO IT'S, IT'S HELPED US SHAPE OUR ENFORCEMENT APPROACH THAT WE'RE NOT JUST GOING OUT TO EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD JUST BECAUSE WE'RE CHECKING A BOX AND MEETING A SCHEDULE. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE WITH HIGH USERS IN MIND. 
          YEAH. 
          WITHOUT REALLY TARGETING INDIVIDUAL USERS, UH, BASED ON THEIR DATA. 
          AND I SEE CHIEF DAVIS OVER THERE, UH, IT'S A TEAM APPROACH AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT FAIRLY AND EFFICIENTLY. 
          SO IT HAS MADE US MORE EFFICIENT IN HOW WE'RE, UM, ENFORCING MY THINKING ON IS IF WE WERE TO GO WITH A, A RATE CHANGE, I DON'T THINK, BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN, THAT THOSE TOP USERS ARE GONNA CHANGE ANYTHING ANYWAY. 
          SO MAYBE NOT. 
          I THINK IT'D BE GREAT FOR MAKING US MORE MONEY, BUT IT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO PERSONALLY I WOULD RATHER SEE, UM, A MORE STRATEGIC PLAN ON OUTREACH FIRST BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT A RATE CHANGE SECOND. 
          SO WITH, UH, WITH ANOTHER SUMMER UNDER OUR BELT, HAVING GONE THROUGH THE EXPERIENCES WE WENT THROUGH THIS PAST SUMMER, THERE IS, WE DO FEEL, AND, AND BILL'S ANOTHER ALMOST A YEAR EDUCATED NOW ABOUT OUR SITUATION AND UNDERSTANDS OUR ENVIRONMENT, THE EDUCATION, THE ENFORCEMENT APPROACH WILL BE THAT MUCH MORE IMPACTFUL. 
          SO HOPEFULLY WE, WE DO SEE A CHANGE, EVEN A, A SMALL ONE IN OUR TIER THREE USERS GOING INTO THIS NEXT SUMMER. 
          IF WE DON'T, THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS AND MAYBE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. 
          BUT MAYBE CHANGING THE, THE TIERED RATES WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING WE'D WANT TO TACK RIGHT AWAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SURE. 
          OF COURSE. 
          JUMP IN INTO THE MICROPHONE NOW. 
          I MEAN, UM, AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, THE, UH, MODEL HOMES AND ENFORCEMENT. 
          YOU MADE A STATEMENT THAT WE MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCES, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR IRRIGATION ORDINANCE, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A LINE IN THERE THAT BANS INEFFICIENT IRRIGATION. 
          AND IF YOU'RE RUNNING YOUR SYSTEM TWICE AS LONG, OR YOU KNOW, 30% LONGER THAN IT'S SUPPOSED TO, THAT'S ILLEGAL UNDER ORDINANCE AND ALSO UNDER THE STATE IRRIGATION CODE. 
          SO THERE MAY, WE MAY ALREADY HAVE SOME EMPOWERMENT THERE. 
          SO EXPLAIN, WE'D HAVE TO DEFINE INEFFICIENT. 
          YEAH. 
          EXCUSE. 
          WE WOULD HAVE TO DEFINE INEFFICIENT. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY IN THE ORDINANCE, RIGHT? WELL, IF YOU'RE, IF THEY'RE WAY BEYOND WHAT, WHAT THE REASONABLE PRACTICE IS, AND I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU LIKE I KNOW WHAT THE TIMES ARE OR IF THEY'RE EXCEEDING. 
          THERE'S SOME, THERE'S A NUMBER CALLED THE, UM, UH, EVA TRANSPIRATION CO-EFFICIENT. 
          I'M NOT RIGHT OFF THE TIME. 
          IT HAS TO DO WITH THE FORMULA ON HOW YOU FIGURE OUT HOW LONG YOU'RE RUNNING AND IT'S, YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE IT IN THE STATE STATE LAWS ABOUT IT. 
          BUT IT'S POSTED IN THE METERS, ISN'T IT? YEAH. 
          IF YOU EXCEED THIS NUMBER, THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE RUNNING TOO LONG. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I'M THROWING NUTTING DISC OUT FOREVER THAT BEATS THAT BEEPS IT. 
          BUT I CAN TELL YOU IN THE, IN HIGH SUMMER ON THOSE BIG ROAD, YOU KNOW, THE SINGLE, SINGLE STREAM ROTOR GOING BACK AND FORTH, MOST YOU WANT TO EAT WATER IS ABOUT AN HOUR A WEEK. 
          NOW IF YOU'RE RUNNING TWO HOURS, I THINK IT'S PRETTY EASY TO ARGUE THAT YOU'RE BEING INEFFICIENT. 
          SO, UM, YEAH. 
          RUNOFF TOO. 
          SOME SORT OF GUIDELINE PARAMETERS FOR TO HELP US ENFORCE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THERE'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT. 
          SO IF THERE'S AN ORDINANCE APPROACH, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK AT TAKING THAT AND BRINGING THAT TO COUNCIL. 
          I THINK STUFF LIKE THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO TIE INTO THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA VIDEOS NOTIFICATION THAT COULD BE SHARED. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY GONNA GET SO MANY PEOPLE OUT TO AN EVENT. 
          BUT THOSE VIDEOS, I MEAN, WE SEE IT WITH, UM, ALL THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIAS ALL THE TIME. 
          POLICE AND FIRE, THAT STUFF TAKES OFF. 
          UM, SOMETHING VISUAL THAT PEOPLE COULD UNDERSTAND. 
          AND, UM, I KNOW YOU'VE, IF YOU CAN SUMMARIZE REAL QUICK, THE IRRIGATION ASSESSMENT PROGRAM, HOW THAT'S GOING. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S DRIVING, THAT COULD DRIVE A LOT OF FUTURE CONTENT THAT WE SHARE WITH RESIDENTS VIA SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL. 
          SURE, SURE. 
          WELL, WE'VE GOT OUR PILOT PROGRAM GOING ON. 
          I'M CALLING THE IRRIGATION ASSESSMENTS. 
          WE'VE GOT A IRRIGATION OR A, AN IRRIGATOR WHO'S VISITING, UH, HOMES THAT SIGN UP FOR IT. 
          [04:15:01]
UH, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 165 RESIDENTS THAT SIGNED UP NOW. 
          UM, WE'VE KIND OF STOPPED THE SIGNUPS NOW CAUSE IT'S ABOUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN TAKE ON RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THE IRRIGATOR, UH, WILL GO, GOES TO EACH HOUSE. 
          HE LOOKS AT THE SETTINGS, UH, HOWEVER THEY'RE SET UP NOW AND THEN, UH, MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT THE SETTINGS SHOULD BE, WHICH IS A LITTLE, LITTLE MUDDIED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER AND A LOT OF 'EM ARE SHUT DOWN. 
          BUT WE TELL 'EM WHAT THEY SHOULD BE IN THE SPRING WHEN THEY START. 
          UM, AND WE ALSO ADVISE THEM, IT'S WINTERTIME, SO YOU DON'T REALLY NEED THE WATER RIGHT NOW, EXCEPT MAYBE EVERY NOW AND THEN IF IT DOESN'T RAIN EVERY FOUR WEEKS OR SO. 
          UM, AND THEN WE ALSO GIVE 'EM A SEASONAL SCHEDULE, WHICH IS BASICALLY, WE SEE IT'S A SUGGESTED SCHEDULE ON HOW MUCH TO RUN IN EACH MONTH DURING THE IRRIGATION SEASON, WHICH IS FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM UM, MARCH 1ST THROUGH NOVEMBER 1ST. 
          SO THEY'LL GET A, THEY GET A, A GOOD BALLPARK ON HOW MUCH TO RUN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN HE, UH, HE TURNS OUT THE PAPERWORK INTO ME. 
          I SEND AND I SEND THE HOMEOWNER A THANK YOU EMAIL, KIND OF A SUMMARY OF IT. 
          AND, UH, IT, THEY ALSO GET FIGURES FOR WHAT THE MINIMUM AMOUNT THEY'LL USE IN THE COOLER MONTHS AND THEN WHAT THEY'LL TOP OUT AT IN THE SUMMER IF THEY FOLLOW OUR SCHEDULE. 
          SO THEY SHOULD HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA. 
          LIKE WE TELL 'EM OKAY, IN JULY AND AUGUST, YOUR SYSTEM BASED ON OUR MEASUREMENTS, CUZ THEY, THEY, THEY, HE DOES FLOW MEASUREMENTS. 
          I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT AT THE, AT THE METER ON EACH, EACH ZONE. 
          SO WE TELL 'EM IN, YOU KNOW, JULY, IF YOU GO ABOVE THIS NUMBER, YOU'RE, YOU MAY BE DOING SOMETHING WRONG. 
          SO IT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. 
          OH WOW, THAT'S AWESOME. 
          THAT'S KIND OF IT. 
          ARE WE PUTTING OUT INFORMATION ANYWHERE AROUND THE CITY BESIDES LIKE ON OUR WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA? LIKE DO WE HAVE PAMPHLETS AT THE LIBRARY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NOT RIGHT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT NOW, I WAS JUST THINKING OF, UM, THE LOWE'S GARDEN CENTER. 
          AS SOON AS THE WEATHER GETS GOOD EVERY YEAR, THAT PLACE IS PACKED. 
          IMAGINE LIKE A QR CODE OR LIKE LITTLE PAMPHLETS OR SOMETHING THAT SAY ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TELLING US RIGHT NOW. 
          BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS. 
          NOBODY KNOWS HOW MUCH YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WATER YOUR, YOUR GRASS. 
          AND WHEN YOU GOOGLE IT, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S EXACTLY FOR YOUR LOCATION. 
          IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE IN THIS BROAD ZONE ZONE, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT A GARDENER, I KILL THINGS. 
          UM, BUT HAVING THAT INFORMATION AT THE LIBRARY OR AT GARDEN CENTERS I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT. 
          AND THE AGRILIFE AGRILIFE EXTENSION, THEY'VE GOT THEIR GREEN THUMBS UP SERIES THAT'S GOING ON OVER AT THE ACTIVITY CENTER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEY DO HAVE A, A SESSION COMING UP, UH, A COUPLE MONTHS ON DROUGHT TOLERANT GARDENING AND THEN ONE IN MAY ON IRRIGATION THAT I'LL PROB I'LL BE DROPPING IN ON. 
          BUT WE CAN'T DO ENOUGH, UM, UH, EDUCATION ON IRRIGATION. 
          SO I'M TALKING WITH THE UH, UM, COLLEAGUE OF MINE AT THE LCR ABOUT DOING A COMBINED SESSION SOMETIME IN MARCH OH COOL. 
          TO TEACH PEOPLE ABOUT IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. AWESOME. 
          AND THEN, UM, SOME OTHER IDEAS DOWN THE ROAD, AND I KIND OF WANT TO ADDRESS THE SMART CONTROLLERS CUZ THEY'RE BECOMING MORE POPULAR, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE VERY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO READ THE MANUAL SMART CONTROLLERS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S A SMART CONTROLLER? OH, I'M SORRY. 
          THAT'S, UM, THE MOST OF THE, UH, IRRIGATION, UH, VENDORS NOW HAVE, UH, ADVANCED CONTROLLERS THAT WILL TAKE WEATHER INFORMATION AND KIND OF, AND THEY'LL BASICALLY SCHEDULE THE WATERING THROUGH A COMPUTER PROGRAM. 
          OH. 
          SO, UM, THEY BASICALLY SET THE, THE RUN TIMES AND THEY CAN SET, THEY CAN SET THE DAYS, BUT THEN YOU CAN OVERRIDE THAT TO FIT THE CITY WATERING SCHEDULE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, BUT I THINK THEY'RE REALLY COOL BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M INTERESTED IN THAT STUFF AND THEN AVERAGE HOMEOWNER SEES IT AND THINKS IT'S A SET IT FORGET IT THING. 
          AND YEAH, IT CAN BE SOME BAD BLOWBACK IF THEY DON'T, AS I SAID, READ THE MANUAL. 
          AND, AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE, THIS PILOT PROGRAM, WHICH, UM, WHEN WE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, WE SAID THIS IS GONNA GIVE US A SNAPSHOT OF MAYBE WHAT THE TRENDS ARE, WHAT WE THINK THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE. 
          WE'LL CAPTURE THE DATA OF THE TYPES OF SYSTEMS THAT ARE BEING INSTALLED SO WE CAN SHARE INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEOS OF HOW TO USE THOSE SYSTEMS. SO WE CAN SHARE, UH, OUR GUIDELINES ALONG WITH THAT ARE PHASE REQUIREMENTS. 
          ALONG WITH THAT, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GONNA HIT PEOPLE THAT AREN'T LISTENING TO US AND WE CAN'T KNOCK ON EVERY DOOR. 
          BUT OVER TIME I THINK WE'LL HIT MORE AND MORE CUSTOMERS. 
          AND IF THIS BECOMES A PROGRAM THAT, THAT WE FIND SUCCESSFUL ENOUGH, WE MAY CONTINUE SOME VERSION OF IT THAT MAYBE WE COUPLE IT WITH THE AGRILIFE CLASSES. 
          WE'RE STILL THINKING ABOUT WHAT IS GONNA HIT THE MOST CUSTOMERS. 
          BUT CERTAINLY THIS WILL GIVE US DATA THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD BEFORE. 
          THAT'S BRILLIANT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNSEL, ANYTHING FURTHER? SO I DO HAVE ONE, A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I DON'T WANNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS. 
          I JUST WANT TO, FOR SAKE OF MORE FUTURE PLANNING THAN ANYTHING ELSE, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          I THINK DAN AND GINA, YOU TWO WILL BE THE, THE ONES THAT'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS. 
          SO, WATER RETENTION AND DETENTION, TWO SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          RETENTION IS HOLDING THE, OR HOLDING THE WATER. 
          NO, UH, SLOWING DOWN THE WATER DETENTION IS HOLDING THE WATER. 
          CORRECT. 
          OPPOSITE. 
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OPPOSITE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THE WATER? AND IS THAT, IS THAT NON-POTABLE WATER THAT CAN BE TREATED, NOT TREATED ON SITE? CUZ IT WOULDN'T NEED TO BE TREATED? CAN THAT BE REUSED? BECAUSE TO ME THAT IS AN OPEN RAIN BARREL. 
          UM, HOW IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE? NOT NECESSARILY WE DO IT, BUT IN, IN THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE, IT'S AN OPTION. 
          THAT'S ONE, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE RAIN BARRELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THEY, THEY, THEY CISTERNS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          THEY CAN, THEY CAN DO THAT. 
          THEY CAN CAPTURE, UM, THEIR ROOFS AND COLLECT IT. 
          IT JUST, I THINK IF YOU PUT IT IN A POND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO GET OUT AND GET, UH, YOU KNOW, IRRIGATING. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY DOING THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY DOING THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. 
          I MEAN, ITS THEORETICALLY A POSSIBILITY. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR YOU TO RETAIN THE WATER, YOU HAVE TO PUT CLAIM LINE. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, AND WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF IT. 
          NO. 
          AND IT'S, SO ANY OTHER THING TOO IS THAT, UM, L C R AND B R DON'T REALLY LIKE PEOPLE STOPPING WATER. 
          THEY WANT TO OWN THE WATER IN THE LAKE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THEY, THEY WANT THE WATER TO GO TO THE LAKE SO THAT THEY CAN KEEP THEY OWN SELLING IT AND SELL IT TO YOU. 
          IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE USING IT ALL UP WHERE IT GETS TO THEIR LAKE, THEN THAT ALSO BECOMES A CONCERN FOR, FOR THAT. 
          SO, SO THAT IS THE, THAT IS WATER RIGHTS. 
          WATER RIGHTS. 
          YEP. 
          EXACTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT GOES INTO THE WHOLE RAIN BARREL. 
          UM, AND I, AND I SAY THIS JUST, I KIND OF ASK ABOUT THIS LAST TIME. 
          WHAT IS THE EFFECT? HOW, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THIS MAKE? UM, AND I SAY THIS CAUSE I WAS AT A HOME RECENTLY THAT HAS I MAYBE 3000 SQUARE FEET HOME AND COMPLETE RAINWATER. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          THAT'S THEIR ONLY SOURCE OF WATER IS RAIN, RAINWATER. 
          AND IT IS JUST AN AVERAGE SIZE RAIN BARREL. 
          BUT THEY HAVE 35,000 GALLON WATER STORAGE. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THEM. 
          SO I HAVE WATER STORAGE ALL AROUND. 
          THAT'S ALL THEY USE. 
          SO I THOUGHT, OKAY, NOW THAT IS AN EXTREME SITUATION. 
          YOU'RE NOT GONNA FIND THAT EVERYWHERE. 
          BUT LONG AGAIN, LONG TERM. 
          WHAT IF WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE THAT AVAILABLE OR IF PEOPLE STARTED DOING THAT OUT OF DESPERATION, UM, IS, I THINK WE KIND OF ANSWERED THAT QUESTION THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT LCR. 
          WE PROBABLY CAN'T EVEN DO THAT IN CITY LIMITS ON A GRAND SCALE BECAUSE THAT WOULD LIMIT THE WATER THAT'S GOING BACK INTO LIKE TRAVIS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN I'VE GOT A THIRD IF IT'S FROM THEIR HOUSE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY'RE CLICKING OFF THE ROOF RAIN BARRELS. 
          I, I DON'T THINK THAT NECESSARILY IS THE ISSUE, BUT THE ISSUE WHEN YOU HAVE HOME STORAGE TANKS AND STUFF, IT'S LIKE SOLAR POWER. 
          IT'S, IT'S KIND OF EXPENSIVE. 
          MM-HMM. 
           AND THEN YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT MM-HMM. 
           AND THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT CONNECTION. 
          AND, AND WATER IS TRICKY. 
          IF, IF YOU'RE NOT, UH, DISINFECTING YET RIGHT. 
          THERE HAS TO BE TAKING CARE OF IT, THEN YOU CAN MAKE YOURSELF SICK. 
          YES. 
          UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THE SYSTEM. 
          AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE LIKE CITY WATER. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL THAT'S WHY I SAY I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD DO THAT ON A, THAT NOT WE WOULD DO IT, BUT IT COULD BE DONE ON A GRAND SCALE IN THE CITY LIMIT. 
          I MEAN IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO DO A LOT, BUT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST THINGS YOU HAVE TO THINK THROUGH YEAH. 
          AS YOU'RE, AS YOU'RE DEALING IT AND, AND THE RISKS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT AND WHAT THAT ENTAILS. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF THERE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY SUCH THING AS A BAD IDEA IN THE FUTURE. 
          MAYBE EVERYBODY HAS A RAIN COLLECTION SYSTEM IN THEIR HOUSE. 
          MOST LIKE WE'RE GOING TO SOLAR POWER AND, AND WIND TURBINES. 
          UM, EVEN ON HOUSES AND, AND BUILDINGS. 
          UM, LARGE HIGH RISES COLLECT THE CONDENSATION FROM ALL THE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS AND SO FORTH TO REUSE IN THE SYSTEM. 
          SO THERE'S SOME SMART ENGINEERS OUT THERE MAKING SOME THINGS HAPPEN. 
          IT'S, IT'S A MATTER OF THE TECHNOLOGY COMING CATCHING UP, UM, WITH US AND THEN HOW TO BEST USE IT AND SO FORTH. 
          SO WE'LL KEEP OUR EYES OPEN, THAT'S FOR SURE. 
          WELL THEN THE LAST THING WAS, UM, I KNOW WE, WE HAD THAT PRESENTATION, I FORGET WHEN IT WAS QUITE, QUITE SOME TIME AGO, ABOUT, UM, ALTERNATIVE WATER SOURCES AND COME TO THE REALIZATION HOW EXPENSIVE THE GROUNDWATER IS. 
          HAVE, HAVE, WE ARE, HAVE WE JUST KIND OF DROPPED THE, UM, ALTERNATE WATER SOURCE OPTION FOR LONG, LONG-TERM. 
          SO, UM, WE DID HAVE THE LONG-TERM STUDY AND THE LONG-TERM STUDY INDICATED, YOU KNOW, THAT THE B C R IS A PLAN. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THE PROBLEM IS, IS THE B C R A HAS SEVERAL MORE PHASES TO GO THAT'S GONNA GET NEANDER INTO THE FUTURE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT IT? THE THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THE NEAREST AQUIFER IS 60 OR 70 MILES AWAY AND IT WOULD, YOU WOULD WANT TO DO SOMETHING REGIONAL. 
          BUT UM, WHEN I STICK TO THE 62 IS BECAUSE YEAH. 
          UM, THE VISTA RIDGE THAT SAN ANTONIO DID WAS 800 MILLION FOR THAT 150 MILE PIPELINE AND THAT'S ONLY 50 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. 
          AND SO YOU THINK ABOUT THE B C A IS LESS THAN THAT AND GAVE HIM TWICE AS MUCH WATER MM-HMM. 
          , UM, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO LAY, YOU KNOW, MILES A MILES AND BUILD PUMP STATIONS 
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TO GET THAT WATER FROM A TO B CORPU SPENT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE 180 MILLION RANGE FOR JUST 40 MILES OF PIPELINE OF PUMP STATIONS FOR THE MARY ROSE PHASE TWO. 
          AND THAT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 30 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, UM, BASED ON THE CONDITION OF VERY MARY ROSE PHASE ONE. 
          SO PUMPING WATER FROM A TO B IS EXPENSIVE. 
          AND, AND, AND WHEN WE HAD TO DESELL, I HAD TO EXPLAIN THIS TO SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT, WELL, WE'RE JUST PUMPING THE SAN ANTONIO, WELL IT'S NOT OIL. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, WE'RE NOT, IT'S NOT $80 A BARREL. 
          IT'S LIKE $4 A THOUSAND GALLONS. 
          AND SO THE PUMP IT ANYWHERE IS, IS SUPER EXPENSIVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE AT THIS TIME TO SELL THE PUMP. 
          PLUS SAN ANTONIO HAS HAVE, SAN ANTONIO HAS A TON OF WATER CUZ THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN NOW REALLY MOVING OUT ON, THEY HAVE DESAL, THEY HAVE A AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY. 
          THEY HAVE THEIR EDWARDS AQUIFER, THEY HAVE THE VISTA RIDGE. 
          THEY'RE GOING HUGE ON PURPLE PIPE, BUT THEY HAVE 2 MILLION PEOPLE SO THEY CAN SPREAD IT OUT. 
          UH, IT'S A BIG CITY. 
          WE HAVE TO TAKE MORE REGIONAL AND PROBABLY, UH, THE CITY MAYORS AND CITY MANAGERS PROBABLY NEED TO START TALKING. 
          THERE'S THE FIVE OR SIX CITIES IN THIS AREA ON THAT VERY THING ON, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA KEEP GROWING, WHAT IS THE NEXT SOURCE? IF WE HAVE INDUSTRIAL COMING IN, WHAT IS THE NEXT SOURCE? MM-HMM. 
          , HOW ARE WE GONNA SUPPORT THAT? SO, GOOD QUESTION. 
          BUT YEAH, THAT WOULD BE EXPENSIVE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, FOR THAT. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, THE PLAN IS CUZ WE'VE STILL GOT AFTER, EVEN AFTER PHASE TWO, THERE'S STILL 40 MILLION GALLONS OF EXPANSION OCCURRING ON THE B C R UUA. 
          SO NOT THAT IT'S UH, YOU KNOW, 50 YEARS OUT, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY 20. 
          AND, AND ONE THING THAT THE LONG TERM STUDY SHOWED IS THAT COST OF BRINGING THAT WATER FROM THE EAST IS EXPONENTIALLY HIGHER THAN OUR BIRD IN THE HAND TOO. 
          SO ANYTHING WE WOULD DO REGIONALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF IT, IT'S GONNA PROBABLY COST MORE TO GET IT TO US THAN AROUND ROCK OR TO GEORGETOWN. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, WHAT DOES THAT COST PER PER GALLON OR PER THOUSAND GALLONS. 
          BUT AS FAR AS LIKE L C A WE ARE, WE ARE GOOD FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS AS FAR AS WHAT, WHAT WE, THEY'RE REASONABLY CONFIDENT THAT WE ARE, WE ARE GOOD FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS ONCE WE CAN TREAT IT. 
          I MEAN, RICK CRYSTAL BOND. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR PREDICTIONS OF BEING GONNA SUPPLY WATER TO US. 
          SO, SO IT IT IT, THEY'RE WORKING ON MORE THINGS AND WE, AND, AND WE AND WE INCREASED OUR CONTRACT AMOUNT TO 31,000 ACRES. 
          AND THEN, AND THAT ALSO BECOMES DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO JUST HAVE THAT YOU DON'T USE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE'RE NOT EVEN USING IT ALL. 
          BUT, UM, THE, THE DISCUSSION IS, IS THAT THEY HAVE LIMITATIONS AND OF COURSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE THE LAST PERSON IN LINE AND THEN YOU GET UP TO THE TICKET WINDOW AND WE'RE SOLD OUT. 
          UM, CUZ THAT'S COULD BE A REAL POSSIBILITY. 
          SO THERE'S A BALANCE. 
          THE LONG TERM STUDY INDICATED THAT YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT BETWEEN 31 AND 33,000 ACRE FEET, YOU KNOW, HERE SOON. 
          AND SO WE, WE, WE TOOK THAT ON BOARD AND MOVED THAT BOARD. 
          BUT THAT, THAT'S A COST TO HAVE THAT, UM, BASICALLY IN RESERVATION FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE IN THE FUTURE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , BUT, YOU KNOW, LIBERTY HILL, UM, AND OTHER CITIES ARE LOOKING AT THAT SAYING, HEY, WE, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME, AT LEAST GET US OUT TO, YOU KNOW, 10, 15 YEARS. 
          MM-HMM. 
           NOT NO LONGER, BUT AT LEAST THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT'LL. 
          I'LL SAY FROM THE ELECTED SIDE, CUZ YOU TOUCHED ON IT, DAN, THAT, THAT WE ALL HAVE TO TALK TO EACH OTHER. 
          UM, THE MAYORS IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY, WE HAVE REGULAR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS AND, UM, JUDGE GROVE ACTUALLY GATHERS US A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR. 
          AND, UM, AND WHEN I HEAR WHAT'S HAPPENING NORTH OF US, LIKE EVERY CITY NORTH OF US IN THE COUNTY, I'M LIKE, WE'RE ACTUALLY SITTING REALLY PRETTY MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, I THINK WE TEND TO LOOK AT ROUND ROCK, WHICH IS A SUPERSTAR AND THINK LIKE, OH WE ARE, WE ARE BEHIND, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING REALLY WELL MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, BUT IT IS A CONVERSATION THAT COMES UP ALL THE TIME. 
          AND I KNOW THE COUNTY IS INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING REGIONAL BECAUSE OF THE CONCERN NORTH OF US. 
          UM, AND THAT'S JUST A CONTINUING CONVERSATION, SO EVENTUALLY GOOD TO KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM FROM STAFF OR COUNSEL? ALL RIGHT. 
          IT'S TIME FOR A 15 MINUTE BREAK. 
          THE TIME IS 2 49. 
          PLEASE BE BACK IN YOUR SEATS AT 3 0 5 IF YOU'RE NOT DOING THIS HARD DOWN THERE. 
          WELL, WE'RE NOT TAKING ON, WE'RE NOT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THE TIME IS THREE 14. 
          WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX. 
          DISCUSS AND CONSIDER POTENTIAL SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS IN THE CITY. 
          EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF VELT SERVICES. 
          GRIFFIN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, THIS, THIS ITEM IS ABOUT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS. 
          UM, TODAY THE CITY OF LAND DOESN'T REALLY HAVE, UM, A, A SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE THAT SPEAKS TO SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          [04:30:01]
MM-HMM. 
          , I'M ASSUMING EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THAT IS. 
          UM, THAT'S WHEN YOU DO LIKE AIRBNB OR VRBO AND YOU'RE IN A HOUSE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, SO RIGHT NOW WHEN SOMEONE CALLS AND WANTS TO DO A SHORT TERM RENTAL, WE EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING CUZ WE TREAT IT LIKE A HOTEL CUZ IT'S, UM, LIKE A TEMPORARY OCCUPANCY WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND STAYING SOMEWHERE. 
          SO, UM, WE'VE RECEIVED, UH, AN INCREASE IN REQUESTS LATELY AND PAIGE HAS ADVISED US WE PROBABLY SHOULD CLEAN UP OUR ORDINANCE AND, UM, UPDATE IT TO ALLOW THEM, NOT ALLOW THEM, BUT SOMEHOW DEFINE THEM. 
          SO IN YOUR PACKET, UM, I'VE PROVIDED SOME PROS AND CONS TO ALLOWING SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          UM, MIKE HAS PUT 'EM ON THE SCREEN. 
          OUR, OUR PROS THAT WE CAN SEE IS THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CHAMBERS BROUGHT UP AS WELL. 
          UM, WE DID HAVE SOMEONE DO RESEARCH, I GUESS IT WAS KIND OF, SHE WAS TRYING TO OFFER HER SERVICES TO US. 
          SHE EMAILS ME EVERY WEEK. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          OKAY, COOL. 
          UM, BUT SHE KINDA LET US KNOW, UM, HOW MANY WE HAD THAT WE WEREN'T GETTING THE TAX ON. 
          UM, SO THAT'S ONE BENEFIT. 
          AND THIS WAS RECENTLY BROUGHT UP AT THE CAP COG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUP. 
          GROUP. 
          OH. 
          UM, BECAUSE IT'S HISTORICALLY HARD TO FIND THESE. 
          UM, YES. 
          HIRING A CONSULTANT IS KIND OF THE WAY EVERYBODY IS GOING BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO USE SOFTWARE TO KIND OF TRACK DOWN ALL OF THEM. 
          BUT IT CAN BE A TREMENDOUS REVENUE MAKER. 
          SURE. 
          SORRY, GO ON. 
          YES. 
          UM, SO, UM, THE OTHER THING WE SAW AS A PRO IS, UM, THERE MIGHT BE INSTANCES WHERE A HOUSE, UH, GETS UPGRADED TO MEET COMMERCIAL STANDARDS. 
          UM, IT'S KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW IF I'D SAY IT WAS A PRO, BUT IT'S UPGRADING A HOUSE. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, REGISTRATION RENEWAL. 
          UM, IT WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHERE IT'S HAPPENING AND KIND OF PROVIDE SOME, UM, MANDATES LIKE WHEN YOU CAN DO IT, WHEN YOU CAN'T, WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          WE HAD A LOT OF CONS. 
          UM, WE SAW THIS, UH, BEING A LITTLE BIT EXPENSIVE FOR THE CITY BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HIRE SOME ADDITIONAL STAFF. 
          UM, I WENT TO A, A CONFERENCE PROBABLY TWO YEARS AGO, UM, WHERE WE HEARD FROM UH, NEW BRAUNS AND FREDERICKSBURG AND WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH WITH THEIR, UM, SHORT TERM RENTALS AND THEY HAD HIRE A FIRM TO FIND 'EM ALL AND THEN THE FIRM LOCATES THEM, BUT THEY DON'T ENFORCE IT. 
          UM, SO THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE STAFF GO ENFORCE IT AND DEAL WITH THE COMPLAINTS. 
          UM, THEY DID THINGS LIKE, UM, HAVE HOTLINES FOR PEOPLE TO TURN IN THEIR NEIGHBOR IF THEY WERE BREAKING A RULE. 
          UM, ONE OF THE OTHER CONCERNS WAS THE, THE PARKING. 
          SO YOU WOULD BE IN A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND SUDDENLY YOU'RE NEXT DOOR TO A A PARTY HOUSE RIGHT. 
          WHERE SOMEONE'S RENTED IT FOR THE WEEKEND. 
          AND IT'S NOT JUST A FAMILY, IT'S LIKE FOUR FAMILIES, UM, THAT ARE STAYING AT THIS HOUSE. 
          SO YOU, YOU HAVE THAT ISSUE, UM, WITH NEIGHBORS CAUSING NOISE, UM, AND UH, JUST DISRUPTING THEIR LIVES. 
          AND THERE'S ALSO THE RISK OF YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU LIVE NEXT TO. 
          UM, IT, IT ENDS UP, UH, WHERE YOU MIGHT FEEL AT RISK IN SOME WAYS. 
          UM, WE'D ALSO HAVE TO SOME UPDATES TO OUR ORDINANCES AND, UM, WE WERE LOOKING FOR, UH, FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL ABOUT WHICH DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO. 
          UM, ONE THING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS MAYBE REACHING OUT TO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND KIND OF GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK. 
          LIKE HOW DOES YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL ABOUT, UM, HAVING SHORT TERM RENTALS? NO, I FEEL MY LIFE FLASHING BEFORE MY EYES. 
          WELL, THEY'RE ALL GONNA SAY NO. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I FEEL LIKE, WHICH IS A FINE STANCE EXCEPT THEN I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ENFORCE THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE JUST GONNA DO IT ANYWAY. 
          AND AND THEY ARE WE YEAH. 
          FIRM THAT, UH, WE LISTENED TO SAID THEY IDENTIFIED 55 IN OKAY. 
          55 LOCATIONS. 
          AND THAT WAS AT THAT TIME. 
          THAT'S BEEN A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHEN THEY DID THAT REVIEW. 
          I FEEL LIKE HOAS COULD PROBABLY MAKE THEIR OWN RULES. 
          LIKE THEY CAN, BUT HOW LONG IT, THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN WORRY ABOUT IT. 
          THEY CAN'T ENFORCE IT. 
          UM, IT, IT'S HARD. 
          SO THEY, THEY'VE BEEN ASKING THE CITY FOR HELP BECAUSE IT'S UM, THEY HAVE TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY AND BY THE TIME THEY GET ALL OF THAT DONE, THEY'RE ALREADY GONE. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          CUZ THEY'RE HERE LIKE WHEN SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST IS HAPPENING AND THEY'RE STAYING IN LEANDRO. 
          CAUSE THEY COULDN'T FIND A PLACE IN AUSTIN. 
          WHEN YOU SAID HOTLINE TO TURN PEOPLE IN, I I SAW TY'S LIFE FLASH BEFORE HIS EYES . 
          IT WOULDN'T GO TO TY. 
          UM, IT WOULDN'T GO. 
          I'LL MAKE SURE IT GOES TO TY. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL WHEN, WHEN WE DID THE THING WITH WATER IN THE HOTLINE TO REPORT LIKE THE HATE MESSAGES. 
          . 
          WELL WE APPRECIATE YOU. 
          CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SURE. 
          SO DO WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS OR THIS JUST SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF? IT'S A MIX. 
          UM, SO WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD, UH, PEOPLE CALL AND TELL US THEIR NEIGHBORS ARE DOING IT. 
          AND THE PROBLEM IS FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT'S PERSPECTIVE, THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO ENFORCE IT. 
          THEY CAN'T TELL FROM THE OUTSIDE, YOU CAN'T KNOCK ON THE DOOR HIGH, DO YOU LIVE HERE AND YOU CAN'T GO IN THE BACKYARD. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO LIKE CATCH THEM. 
          UM, SOMETIMES YOU CAN FIND 'EM ONLINE. 
          LIKE IF YOU SEARCH AIRBNB SITE FOR LEANER, YOU CAN FIND SPOTS. 
          UM, WE JUST NEED DIRECTION. 
          LIKE ARE WE GONNA CHANGE OUR ORDINANCE TO MAKE IT UM, EASIER TO ENFORCE SAYING NO THEY CAN'T DO IT OR DO WE WANNA PROVIDE AREAS WHERE THEY COULD OR HOW DO WE WANNA HANDLE IT? WE ACTUALLY HAD A REQUEST THE OTHER DAY WHERE 
          [04:35:01]
THEY WANTED TO PUT THEIR APARTMENT ON AIRBNB AND THAT WAS WILD. 
          I CAN'T, I CAN'T IMAGINE, UM, HAVING A SHORT TERM RENTAL IN YOUR APARTMENT. 
          MOST, MOST I BELIEVE MOST LEASES MM-HMM. 
           EXHIBIT SUBLEASES LIKE THAT HAVE TO GET CAUGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          IF YOU GET CAUGHT RIGHT. 
          AND BEFORE YOU GO STRAIGHT TO PROHIBITION THERE, THE CASE LAW IS THAT'S CURRENTLY IN, IN PLACE, UH, THAT'S OUT OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DID AN OUTRIGHT BAN ON BANS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT THERE THEY WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL, THE COURT OF APPEALS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I'M NOT SEEING AN INDICATION THAT THAT'S BEEN APPEALED. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT THAT'S GONNA BE OVERTURNED OR CHANGED. 
          UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A SUPREME COURT CASE THAT'S GOING TO COME FROM ANOTHER JURIS JURISDICTION THAT MAY SHED MORE LIGHT ON THAT. 
          BUT THAT'S YOUR NEW YORK TRIED LIKE CRAZY TO SHUT IT DOWN WHEN IT ALL FIRST STARTED AND THEY WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL AT ALL. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I FEEL LIKE YEAH, AND THAT'S MY CONCERN IS WE'RE GONNA NEED TO GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND SAY, DO YOU WANT THIS? AND WE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA SAY. 
          THEY'RE GONNA SAY, NO, WE DON'T WANT THIS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I DON'T WANT IT NEXT DOOR. 
          BUT THEN WHEN WE CAN'T SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T DO IT, THEN THEY COME BACK TO US AND SAY, BUT WE TOLD YOU WHAT WE WANTED. 
          THAT'S FAIR. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE, OH, I DON'T WANT THEIR INPUT. 
          I KNOW WHAT THEIR INPUT IS. 
          WE CAN'T COMPLY WITH THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK WE COULD PROVIDE STANDARDS FOR IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU CAN LOOK AT PROVIDING STANDARDS. 
          THERE'S A CASE OUT OF ARLINGTON WHERE THEY, UH, THEY PUT SOME RESTRICTIONS ON WHICH ZONES THEY COULD BE LOCATED IN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEY STILL WERE ALLOWED IN SOME RESIDENTIAL ZONES. 
          THEY LIMITED THEM, UM, MORE TO THE, TO THE SMALLER, SMALLER, UH, SIZED RESIDENTIAL LOTS. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS UPHELD. 
          BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A COURT THAT'S, SO YOU'RE BOUND BY THE RULINGS OF THE THIRD COURT OF APPEALS. 
          THAT'S ANOTHER, UH, COURT OF APPEALS THAT WOULD JUST BE, UH, PERSUASIVE. 
          AND SO WE'D HAVE TO REVIEW, WE, WE'D HAVE TO REVIEW WHAT THE COUNCIL'S INTERESTED IN DOING AGAINST WHERE THE CURRENT CASE LAW IS AND THE CONTROLLING CASE LAW OF THIRD COURT OF APPEALS. 
          CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING FROM A FINANCE STANDPOINT? UH, WE DO HAVE ONE LOCATION IN TOWN THAT'S IN A COMMERCIAL AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE, IT'S NOT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THEY'RE NOT SECRETLY TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING. 
          UH, MY DESIRE TO HAVE THIS ON THIS, UH, RETREAT IS BECAUSE BEFORE THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT SENDS THEM A LETTER AND SAY, YOU NEED TO START PAYING US, UH, 7%. 
          WE DIDN'T WANT THEM TO POINT TO OTHER LOCATIONS IN LANDER AND SAY, ARE YOU MAKING EVERYONE ELSE DO IT? UH, IF, IF WE HAVE A PLAN OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND THE COUNCIL SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA TAKE ACTION TO STUDY IT FURTHER AND CREATE AN ORDINANCE AND WE'RE IN A BETTER SPOT ONCE THEY GET THAT LETTER. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN HOLDING OFF SENDING THAT LETTER, UM, PENDING THIS CONVERSATION OF THE DIRECTION. 
          WE DON'T NEED AN ANSWER ON THE DIRECTION, JUST IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD MM-HMM. 
          , IF THAT MAKES SENSE, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH RESOLVING THE DECISION ON HOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE OF ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          COUNCILMAN ROSS, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? WELL, I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS SWIRLING AROUND IN MY HEAD, BUT PART OF ME SAYS LIKE, AND EVEN LIKE IN MY INDUSTRY, WE'VE CHANGED OUR POLICIES. 
          SO YOU CAN DO, AS LONG AS THE HOMEOWNERS IN THE HOUSE FOR ONE WEEK A YEAR, IT'S STILL YOUR HOME AND YOU CAN RENT IT OUT. 
          UM, SO THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT ARE CHANGING. 
          AND I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE THAT'LL JUST DO SOUTH BY OR JUST DO ACL, BUT THEY'RE NOT, IT'S NOT A FULL-TIME AIRBNB AS OPPOSED TO BUYING A PROPERTY. 
          AND I'M GOING TO USE THIS AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL. 
          SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GRAY AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE. 
          AND IF I WANT TO LET OTHER PEOPLE LIVE IN MY HOUSE FOR ACL, THEN I CAN LET OTHER PEOPLE LIVE IN MY HOUSE FOR ACL. 
          NO. 
          IF THEY'RE NOISY AND THROWING A PARTY, THEN CALL THE COPS FOR AN RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE RULES OR WE HAVE RULES FOR THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BUT, UM, I DON'T, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT IS REALLY HARD, BUT IF SOMEBODY HAS A FULL-TIME AIRBNB THAT THEY'RE ADVERTISING, THEN I'M OKAY WITH IT FALLING UNDERNEATH. 
          CUZ I'M USING IT AS A, IT'S A BUSINESS AS OPPOSED TO RENTING OUT MY HOUSE. 
          BUT I ACTUALLY DO LIVE THERE MOST OF THE TIME. 
          WELL, THERE ARE ALSO PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE PART-TIME AND THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR FULL-TIME RESIDENTS SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          AND I MEAN, WHY NOT? TO ME IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE SOMEONE STAYING IN THE HOME WHEN THEY'RE NOT THERE THAN TO HAVE IT EMPTY FOR SIX MONTHS OF THE YEAR BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT. 
          AND IF THEY CAN 
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RENT IT OUT, THEN, THEN THERE IS ACTIVITY IN THE HOME. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT, THAT WOULD NOT BE RESTRICTED IN MY OPINION. 
          IT WOULD NOT BE RESTRICTED TO A COMMERCIAL AREA. 
          IT WOULD BE A RESIDENTIAL AREA. 
          AND I DON'T SEE, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD DO THIS, HOW, LIKE YOU'VE GOT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S, THAT IS RESIDENTIAL, THAT PROPERTY, DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THEIR PROPERTY TAXES? IT SHOULD NOT CHANGE ANYTHING THERE BECAUSE IT IS A RESIDENCE. 
          SO ARE YOU SAYING LIKE THEY SOMEONE WOULD RENT IT FOR SIX MONTH PERIOD OR ARE YOU SAYING EVERY WEEK GONNA BE A DIFFERENT PERSON? ONE MORE TIME? THAT WOULD BE A SIX MONTH, YOU KNOW, LEASE JUST, I'LL JUST SAY, OKAY, I'M, I HAVE MY HOME DOWN THE STREET AND THIS IS NOT EVEN CLOSE. 
          UM, BUT JUST USING AS AN EXAMPLE, SAY ONE OF THE HOMES IS, UH, THEY, THEY LIVE THERE SIX MONTHS OF THE YEAR, FOUR MONTHS OF THE YEAR. 
          AND THE REST OF THE TIME THEY LIVE IN COLORADO OR NEW YORK OR WHEREVER. 
          AND THAT TIME THAT THEY'RE NOT THERE, AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL, UM, THEY COULD RENT IT OUT AS AN AIRBNB OR, OR A LONG TERM MEANING SIX MONTHS, BUT IT'S THEIR HOME. 
          WELL THEY COULD RENT IT OUT ANYTIME THEY WANT. 
          WELL, YES, RESTRIC ON THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE YES, THE RENTAL PART. 
          UM, BUT AS FAR AS, UH, TURNING IT INTO AN AIRBNB, WHY, WHY WOULD WE NOT ALLOW THAT? AND I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE NOT DECIDING, BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS ROOM FOR, FOR ALLOWING THAT WITHIN PARAMETERS THAT STILL KEEP IT, UM, SAFE. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHAT'S THE COUNCIL COMFORTABLE WITH? WHICH DIRECTION SHOULD WE GO WITH AN AMENDMENT DO, BECAUSE I MEAN, I, I THINK WE ARE, WE ARE IN A, A SITUATION RIGHT NOW THAT AND ALL THINGS ARE TEMPORARY. 
          UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FACING ECONOMIC CHALL CHALLENGES AND THIS IS A SOLUTION FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. 
          SO, UM, I WOULD HATE TO NOT OFFER SOME SORT OF, UM, ENABLING MECHANISM TO HELP THEM SURVIVE AND IT BE CONTROLLED AT THE SAME TIME. 
          WELL, AND IF WE'RE HIRING SOMEBODY TO DO FINDING THEM AND YOU KNOW, MAKING 'EM COMPLY THROUGH AIRBNB, THEN THERE'S ANOTHER REVENUE SOURCE. 
          IT'S A SMALL ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT'S SOMETHING MR. BEVERLY, AND THIS IS ALSO HAVING BEEN IN COMMUNITIES THAT HAD A HIGH TOURIST COMPONENT, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY WHEN THINGS WERE CHEAPER INTEREST RATE WISE, YOU WOULD END UP IN, YOU KNOW, GALVESTON COUNTY. 
          YOU'D HAVE, I HATE TO USE DALLAS AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT HISTORICALLY BEFORE IT WAS THE WHOLE COUNTRY YOU'D HAVE FOLKS FRO WITH THAT WERE FAIRLY WELL HEALED. 
          THEY WOULD BUILD SOMETHING ON THE WEST END OF SAY GALVESTON AND IT WOULD BE SET UP BASICALLY TO BE A SHORT TERM RENTAL FROM DAY ONE, UM, WITH THEM USING IT ON ANY OF THE, YOU KNOW, LOW SEASON AND IT WOULD PAY FOR ITSELF. 
          WHERE MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE A, A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THOSE ACTUALLY END UP MAKING EVEN MORE MONEY IS IF THEY ARE, UH, MORE OR LESS FULL-TIME, THEN THOSE AREN'T HOMESTEADS. 
          SO I THINK THE OTHER PIECE WOULD BE HAVING THOSE MONITORED. 
          IF THEY'RE DOING 'EM TRULY FULL-TIME, THEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE HOMESTEADS YEAH. 
          ON THE TAX ROLL. 
          AND I HATE TO SAY IT, IF IT, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A DOC, IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE REPORTED AS SUCH IF THAT'S INDEED A FULL-TIME SHORT-TERM RENTAL. 
          BUT YOU CAN HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL AND LIVE THERE AT THE SAME TIME WHILE THEY'RE STAYING. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, YOU CAN HAVE THE, THE THE BOTH SCENARIOS. 
          YES. 
          LIKE, UH, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS SAID LIKE I'VE KNOWN PEOPLE TOO THAT WILL JUST RENT OUT THEIR, YOU KNOW, APARTMENTS IN AUSTIN FOR SOUTH BY ONCE A YEAR. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE WHAT THEY MAKE FOR THAT ONE WEEK THAT THEY'RE OUT PAYS FOR ANYWHERE THEY WANT TO GO FOR VACATION. 
          AND THAT'S DIFFERENT. 
          THAT'S DIFFERENT. 
          AND IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT. 
          WE WOULD STILL COLLECT THE HOT FUNDS BECAUSE IT WOULD GO THROUGH ONE OF THESE, YOU KNOW, AIRBNB OR VRBO OR WHATEVER. 
          BUT, UM, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, TRY AND REMOVE THEIR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FOR ONE WEEK. 
          NO CHANGE. 
          NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT WHERE LITERALLY IT IS A BUSINESS ALONE BUSINESS. 
          THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S, I PURCHASED THIS HOUSE TO RENT IT OUT OVER AND OVER. 
          CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO LOOKING AT SOMEBODY TAKING A VACATION FOR A MONTH AND THEN THE, THEY CAN TURN AROUND AND USE THEIR HOME FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. 
          UM, I'D WANNA KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE THERE AND MM-HMM. 
           IF IT'S JUST SEEMS SO MUDDY LIABILITY. 
          I MEAN WE COULD LOOK AT SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'D BE FINE AND, AND WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE, BUT I THINK PEOPLE ARE GONNA DO IT. 
          IT COULD BE A REVENUE SOURCE. 
          WE SHOULD JUST LOOK INTO IT. 
          MY OPINION. 
          WELL, AND NOT ALL OF 'EM ARE ON, A LOT OF 'EM ARE WORD OF MOUTH. 
          THEY'RE NOT ON THE WEBSITE AND WE'RE NEVER CATCH AND WE'RE NEVER GONNA CATCH THOSE. 
          SO HOW DO YOU, DO YOU, YOU KNOW, BY DOING THAT, DO PEOPLE JUST GO UNDERGROUND SO THAT THEY CAN SO, SO WHAT'S WELL THEY'RE NOT PAYING IT, IT'S THE RENTERS THAT ARE PAYING IT. 
          I KNOW, BUT STILL, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S, I KNOW A LOT OF WHAT'S DONE IN A LOT OF OTHER CITIES, UM, AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE RENTING THEM OUT THINK THAT THAT'S BEING DONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS 
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OF THE TAXES. 
          UM, AND I THINK JUST ONCE YOU CONTACT THEM AND THEY REALIZE I DON'T, I MEAN I'VE DONE IT WHERE YOU RENT IT THROUGH B RBO ONCE AND THEN YOU HAVE A DIRECT CONTACT TO THE OWNER AND YOU GO, HEY, AND YOU WORK SOME OUT ON THE SIDE. 
          IT'S, IT'S DONE A LOT. 
          I KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN I'VE DONE IT  BECAUSE ITS ALL BETTER. 
          IT'S NOT AGAINST, I MEAN IT'S NOT AGAINST ANY RULES. 
          IT'S MORE COMMON THAN YEAH, NO, THINK SO. 
          SO I THINK WHAT WHAT Y'ALL ARE SAYING IS WE SHOULD, UM, LOOK INTO SOME OPTIONS AND MAYBE COME UP WITH A PROPOSAL FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE, THE SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO LOOK AT COSTS, UM, TO HAVE A COMPANY DO THE RESEARCH. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO UNDERSTAND LIKE THE LEVEL ENFORCEMENT OF ENFORCEMENT WE'D BE LOOKING AT BECAUSE THAT WOULD REQUIRE NEW EMPLOYEES. 
          UM, BUT MAYBE WE COME UP WITH THE PROPOSAL OF ALL THAT INFO OR MAYBE CODE ENFORCEMENT COULD DO. 
          I THINK IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY, HOW MANY THERE ARE, RIGHT? MM-HMM. 
          , I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH THE PURPOSE OF WHAT PROBLEM ARE WE SOLVING BY DOING THIS? WE DON'T WANNA GET SUED. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE TELLING PEOPLE NO. 
          SO THERE'S A LIABILITY, THERE'S A LIABILITY FACTOR. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE START WITH AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE SHOULD FALL UNDER THAT. 
          THE REASONING IS LIKE, SURE, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO THIS TO GET MORE MONEY. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE'RE NOT RIGHT. 
          NO, IT'S NOT. 
          WE'RE TRYING NOT TO GET IN TROUBLE. 
          CONTROL YOUR LIFE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT. 
          WE WANT TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT FALLS UNDER WHAT IS REQUIRED TO KEEP EVERYBODY OUT OF TROUBLE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND SO THAT, BUT THERE IS THE REPORTING REQUIREMENT FOR HOTEL MOTEL THAT THINK ROBERT WANTS TO SPEAK ON. 
          WELL, UH, THERE'S REPORTING, BUT THAT'S ONLY FOR THOSE THAT WE KNOW ABOUT. 
          BUT UNDER OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, THESE, UM, THESE FALL UNDER THE HOTEL MOTEL TAX MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, UM, IT'S KIND OF EMBARRASSING TO KNOW THAT IT'S GOING ON MM-HMM. 
           AND NOT, UH, ATTEMPT TO, TO COLLECT. 
          NOW THE, THE REASON WE'VE HESITATED IS BECAUSE, UH, ACCORDING TO THIS COMPANY THAT HAS THE RESEARCH DATA, THERE'S 55 PLUS, AS ROBIN SAID A YEAR AGO, THAT THEY KNOW JUST FROM SEARCHING THE, THE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE SITES THAT ARE ACTIVE, NOT THE ONE OFF WHERE IT'S A SIDE DEAL, BUT ACTIVE. 
          SO IT'S A FAIRNESS AND UH, COMPLIANCE WITH EXISTING ORDINANCE. 
          NOT JUST, UM, I MEAN THAT'S ONE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO SOLVE IS WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE, UH, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE GO ABOUT, UH, ENFORCING THAT IN TODAY'S WORLD OF THERAPY AIRBNBS. 
          WELL, AND I THINK IT'S ABOUT MAKING IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT UNDER HERE WITH THE REGISTRATION AND RENEWALS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          WELL AS A, AS THE OWNER, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE INCENTIVE FOR YOU TO LIVE TO DO THAT? YOU KNOW, IS THERE A, A BENEFIT TO IT TO PAY THAT FEE TO THE CITY? WELL WHAT'S REALLY TO, TO THE STATE AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          WE GET 7% IN THE STATES IS 6%. 
          RIGHT. 
          WELL I THINK THE BENEFIT ALSO IS ONE, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM, ONE, THEY CAN KIND OF COME CLEAN WITH THAT. 
          AND TWO, THAT HELPS US ALSO BUILD LEANDER LONG TERM AS A DESTINATION AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH BRIDGET IN THE CHAMBER. 
          SO, UM, IF PEOPLE ARE COMING AND STAYING, BUT IT'S ALL GOING BASICALLY TO AUSTIN AND WE'RE NOT EVEN COLLECTING THAT, THEN THAT'S ONE MORE PIECE THAT WE'RE KIND OF MISSING AS A DESTINATION TOO. 
          THAT COULD BE, I MEAN MAYBE THAT'S, MAYBE THERE'S A MAGIC NUMBER WHERE IT WOULD FIT AS A LAND USE AND IT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS CUZ WE'RE NOT DOING THE REGISTRATION. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I WAS GONNA ASK IS CAN WE REQUIRE THEM TO REGISTER WITH US? I BELIEVE SO. 
          I BELIEVE WE CAN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THE OTHER ORDINANCES BECAUSE I THINK THE REGISTRATION PIECE AND, AND HOW MANY DAYS PER YEAR AND THOSE THINGS WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE ON THE FRONT END. 
          YES. 
          AND UM, IF WE CAN REQUIRE REGISTRATION, ARE WE ABLE TO HAVE A FEE FOR THAT REGISTRATION TO OFFSET SOME OF THE STAFF TIME OF PROCESSING? YEAH. 
          IF YOU, YOU CAN CHARGE A FEE THAT'S COVERS YOUR COSTS OF ADMINISTRATION. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS, UM, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS CONSULTANT THAT FOUND 50 PLUS PROPERTIES, WERE THEY IN THE CITY LIMITS OR WERE THEY ETJ? AND IF THEY'RE GONNA BE FINDING ALL THESE ETJ PROPERTIES, THEN UM, DO WE WANT TO GO DOWN THE ROAD OF SEEING IF WE CAN REGULATE THAT AND CAPTURE SOME OF THOSE? OR DO WE WANT TO JUST SAY LIKE, HEY CONSULTANT, KEEP IT IN THIS BOX. 
          I THINK A LOT OF HER PROPERTIES WERE IN THE CITY LIMITS. 
          OKAY. 
          I REMEMBER LOOKING AT IT, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD COLLECT IT IN THE EJ. 
          I'M, WELL I KNOW LIKE IF WE HAD AN ETJ THAT HAD A COMMERCIAL AREA IN IT, WE COULD DO A DISTRICT AROUND IT AND COLLECT SALES TAX AND THIS WOULD BE A COMMERCIAL USE. 
          SO I WONDER IF THERE'S ANY LEEWAY THERE, IF WE EVEN 
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WANTED TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD. 
          I'M NOT SAYING WE WANT TO, IF YOU'RE NOT MAXED OUT AT THE 2% OUT THERE THERE, YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER TYPES AND JURISDICTIONS AND SEE IF THE 2% VOCAL SAYS TAX CAP IS ALREADY CAPTURED BY IT'S ESDS AND OTHER DISTRICTS. 
          BUT I WONDER IF IT WOULD WORK FOR HOT FUNDS. 
          FOR HOT FUNDS. 
          WE'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT. 
          WELL, I BELIEVE THE, UH, LOST PINES  IS TECHNICALLY IN THEIR EJ AND THEY HAVE A, UH, THEY BASICALLY HAD A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SO THEY WON'T ANNEX, THEY DIDN'T ANNEX THEM. 
          HOWEVER, THE HOTEL MOTEL TAX IS COLLECTED AND YOU KNOW, I THINK A PORTION GOES BACK TO RESIDUAL, GOES BACK TO THE CITY. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          SO JUST, WELL, WE CAN LOOK AT A COUPLE OPTIONS. 
          I MEAN, YOU NEVER KNOW IN THE E T J WE MAY GET EVENTUALLY APPROACHED FOR A HOTEL RESORT TYPE THING THAT'S UP IN THE HILLS. 
          SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET IN, SOMEBODY CAN GET INFRASTRUCTURE HERE, BUT WE DO NEED TO KNOW. 
          SO E EVEN IF WE, EVEN IF WE DO COME BACK WITH ANY OPTIONS, THE THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM WILL BE THE ENFORCEMENT YEAH. 
          MECHANISM. 
          AND YOU ASKED ABOUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT PROBLEM ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE? WE KNOW THAT IT MAY NOT BE ALL THE HOMES, CUZ MANY OF THEM MAY BE BASED ON SOME OF THE LARGEST AUSTIN AND ANNUAL EVENTS. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY 3, 4, 5 OF THOSE A YEAR THAT ARE DRIVING STR SPIKES UP TO LEANDER, BUT THEY'RE MORE NUISANCES IN NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          THERE'S 5, 6, 7 CARS AROUND A HOME. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S PARTIES, BUT THEY MAY NOT REACH THE LEVEL OF BEING A NOISE ORDINANCE VIOLATION. 
          THEY'RE JUST ANNOYING. 
          THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          UM, WE HAVE TO KNOW THAT THOSE COULD POTENTIALLY BE ISSUES UP FRONT AND HOW WE COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE RESIDENT, THE NEIGHBOR OF THESE STR THAT ASKS US THE HOA THAT SAYS, WELL WE WANT TO BE MORE RESTRICTIVE IN THE CITY AND WE WANT TO HAVE OUR OWN RULES AROUND THIS. 
          WHAT IS OUR ENFORCEMENT CAPABILITY BEYOND WHAT THE CITY'S PROVIDING? SO WE MAY BE, UM, LOOKING AT THAT ANGLE AS WELL. 
          AND THERE MAY NOT BE A LOT OF EFFICIENT SOLUTIONS THAT WE CAN COME BACK WITH, BUT IT IS A COMPONENT OF WHAT WE LOOK AT. 
          WELL, WHAT DO WE CURRENTLY DO IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A HOUSE WHERE THEY'RE JUST CONSTANTLY HAVING PARTIES AND GETTING NOISE ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS? LIKE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER YOU GET 10 NOISE ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS? SORRY, CHIEF SHOULD . 
          I MEAN, I WOULD THINK, IS THIS ON? NO, THERE YOU GO. 
          IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE THAT'S CONTINUOUSLY HAVING SUSHI, YOU BECOME A NUISANCE. 
          AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH OUR COURT SYSTEM AND WE SHOULD TAKE CARE A LONGER PROCESS TO GET THAT DONE. 
          I THINK THE, THE PROBLEM IS, IS TYPICALLY THE, IN AN AIRBNB OR BBR O WHATEVER, ALL THESE ACRONYMS ARE THE PERSON THAT'S DOING THE VIOLATION'S NOT GONNA BE THERE. 
          THEY MAY BE UP IN, BACK IN NEW YORK OR SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          SO IT'S, YOU WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH WOULD THEN WOULD TURN TO A CIVIL TYPE OF THING. 
          UM, IT WOULD WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING WE WOULD BE DEALING WITH CUZ JUST THE OWNER MAY EVEN LIVE HERE. 
          THEY COULD LIVE IN A WHOLE NOTHER STATE. 
          SO I THINK IT'S GONNA TURN INTO MORE OF A, A CIVIL ACTION TOWARDS THEM. 
          UM, WE WOULDN'T DO THAT THROUGH OUR COURTS. 
          WELL, THE PROBLEM WITH CITATIONS IS WHEN YOU ISSUE A CITATION, YOU TYPICALLY GIVE IT TO THE PERSON THAT'S ACTUALLY BREAKING THE LAW. 
          IT'S NOT THE, IT'S NOT THE OWNER OF THE PARTICULAR FACILITY. 
          NOW, IF WE HAD SOME KIND OF ORDINANCE SET IN PLACE, THEN YES. 
          THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD GO AFTER. 
          THE PARTICULAR OWNER OF THE MM-HMM. 
           OF THE, WELL LIKE, THAT SHOULD BE IN THEIR, THEIR CONTRACT FOR, FOR RENTING THAT THE PERSON THAT IS STAYING THERE IS RESPONSIBLE. 
          LIKE IF, IF WE WERE TO GO AFTER THE OWNER, THE OWNER WOULD COLLECT THAT FROM YEAH. 
          BUT IF IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THEM COLLECTING A FINE EVERY TIME THERE'S A NOISE ORDINANCE, THE OR THE OWNER'S JUST GONNA BAKE THAT IN. 
          BUT IF WE HAVE AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, AFTER, YOU KNOW, SIX NOISE ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS, YOU'RE GOING TO COURT FOR A BIGGER, YOU KNOW, MISDEMEANOR OR SOMETHING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR LEEWAY IS ON THAT. 
          UM, BECAUSE THAT GIVES THE OWNER INCENTIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RENTING IT OUT AREN'T HAVING WILD PARTIES. 
          MM-HMM. 
           FOR US, THE, THE, THE INFRACTION IS GONNA BE AT THE TIME OF THE OFFENSE. 
          IT'S SO, OKAY, THE OFFICER'S GONNA GO TO THE CALL, TELL THE PERSON TO BE QUIET, AND THEN THEY COULD, THEY COULD CITE THAT PERSON. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S THAT. 
          BUT WE'RE, UM, MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION. 
          I DON'T THINK YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IT. 
          IF IT HAPPENED SIX OR SEVEN TIMES YEAH. 
          DIFFERENT TIMES THEN THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE. 
          LIKE, I WOULD THINK WOULD BECOME SOME TYPE OF NUISANCE WHERE WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS ORDINANCE AND SAY, OKAY, WE KNOW THE OWNER OF THE FACILITY, WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT FACILITY. 
          AND THEN MAYBE HAVE TO CITE THEM FOR THAT PARTICULAR THING. 
          BECAUSE THE PERSON CREATING THE NUISANCE IS NOT THE PERSON THAT RENTS IT FOR THE WEEKEND. 
          IT'S THE PERSON THAT OWNS IT AND ENABLES IT. 
          POSSIBLY. 
          I MEAN, THE PERSON MAKING THE NOISE COULD BE THE ONE CAUSING THAT WITH THE NUISANCE OVER TIME. 
          YES. 
          WOULD BE THE ONE THAT'S LIKE, HEY, APPARENTLY YOU'RE NOT TELLING YOUR PEOPLE THAT, THAT ARE HERE TO PEOPLE STILL. 
          WELL, WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS ON PROPERTIES, IF IT'S A RENTED PROPERTY, THE ENFORCEMENT ACTION, WHEN IT GOES TO COURT, IT GOES TO THE PERSON WHO'S RENTING IT AND THE OWNER OF THE 
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PROPERTY. 
          SO I FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE SOME MECHANISM. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK IT'LL, I THINK I'M, I'M MAKING SOME NOTES ON SOME OPTIONS. 
          UM, I THINK THE CHIEF'S POINT IS THE IMMEDIATE YEAH, THE IMMEDIATE. 
          BUT I MEAN, TO SHUT IT DOWN IF IT'S A, A PROBLEM OVER TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I THINK WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO SEE HOW WE CAN DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES IF WE WERE TO ALLOW IT, INSTEAD OF JUST BANNING IT ALL TOGETHER, IS THAT YOU COULD REQUIRE THE REGISTRATION, COLLECT A FEE TO COVER THE COST OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , BUT THEN ALSO WE COULD BUILD IN THOSE RULES TO SAY THAT IF WE HAVE THESE REPEATED ISSUES, WE REVOKE YOUR PERMIT. 
          YOU KNOW, SO NOW YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO DO THAT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THE OTHER THING TOO IS THAT WITH THE REGISTRATION OF STAFF, UH, RATHER THAN RESPONDING TO THESE COMPLAINTS, WE CAN BE PROACTIVE AND REQUIRE, AS PART OF THAT THEY POST A, YOU KNOW, EITHER COMMONLY ASKED QUESTIONS OR THE MOST COMMON RULES OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW MM-HMM. 
          , UM, YOU KNOW, NO NOISE PAST THOSE TIME OR PARKING ON THE STREET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, JUST SOME THINGS TO MAKE 'EM AWARE AND BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. 
          SO THE OTHER, GO AHEAD. 
          SORRY. 
          THE EDUCATION COMPONENT WAS A FACTOR WHEN WE WERE PUTTING DOOR HANGERS DURING THE PHASE FOUR, UM, CAMPAIGN, I'LL CALL IT THAT A LOT OF THE VIOLATORS WERE RENTERS. 
          AND SO OUR ORDINANCE REQUIRED THAT WE NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNER WHEN THE RENTER IS THE ONE THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE EDUCATED AS WELL. 
          SO WE KIND OF DID DOUBLE DUTY WHERE WE'RE MAILING NOTICES, BUT WE'RE ALSO HANGING 'EM ON DOORS, SO WE'RE CATCHING BOTH. 
          SO IT BECAME A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THE RENTER DIDN'T NECESSARILY FEEL ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE PROPERTY PROPERTY BECAUSE OUR ORDINANCE IS TARGETED, THE PROPERTY OWNER. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, BEING IN, STANDING IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY AND, AND TELLING 'EM WHAT OUR RULES ARE AND WHY THEY'RE IMPORTANT, MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE. 
          RIGHT. 
          NOW, IT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT'S TOO ONEROUS GOING OUT TO A COUPLE OF DOZEN PROPERTIES. 
          YEAH. 
          IT MAY BE ONLY A FRACTION OF THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ONES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FREQUENT STR PROPERTIES. 
          SO THAT COMPONENT, UM, I THINK IS A GOOD POINT BECAUSE IT DOES MATCH WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE DEALING WITH ON THE WATER SIDE. 
          SO I THINK, UH, WE SHOULD ALSO INCORPORATE SOME SORT OF A NOTIFICATION FOR THE NEIGHBORS. 
          LIKE IF, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS HOUSE AND A NEIGHBORHOOD THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY, THE OWNER HAS TO NOTIFY, YOU KNOW, THOSE AROUND THEM THAT THIS IS, THEY'VE APPLIED FOR. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT CROSSES A LINE FOR ME. 
          DOES IT? I THINK WE MIGHT RUN A FILE OF SOME, WELL, PRIVACY OR DISCRIMINATION LAWS POTENTIALLY. 
          I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT KIND OF NOTIFICATION IF SOMEBODY'S RENTING OUT THEIR HOUSE FOR A YEAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A ALLOWED, SO WE, I MEAN, I GET IT. 
          I WOULD WANNA KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT, WHAT ARE WE DOING WHEN SOMEONE SAYS THEY DIDN'T GET A NOTICE, OR IF THEY DIDN'T LIKE, BUT THEY DON'T LIKE IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          ARE THEY GIVING AN OPTION TO PROTEST OR USUALLY WHEN WE SEND A ZONING NOTICE, THERE'S A CARD. 
          THEY CALL THAT DOWN TO THE RIGHTS. 
          YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DO SOMETHING, THEN YOU KNOW, HEY, BY THE WAY, I HAVE A RIGHT TO BURN LEAVES IN MY BACKYARD. 
          JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW I'M BURNING LEAVES IN MY BACKYARD. 
          I DON'T, BUT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW MY HOUSE IS NOT ON FIRE, DON'T CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO, JUST A NOTIFICATION OF, BY THE WAY, THIS IS, BECAUSE I THINK WHEN PEOPLE GET NOTIFIED, THEY EXPECT THAT THEY CAN GIVE IN AN ACTION. 
          YES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND IT'S LIKE, I'M NOT ASKING YOU FEEDBACK. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S JUST, IT IS. 
          BUT, SO I THINK I, I'M LOOKING MORE OF A, YOU KNOW, ALL HOMEOWNERS HAVE THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY RIGHTS, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, TO, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAYBE IT, MAYBE IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO. 
          SO I, I'M JUST ASKING FOR THE, FOR THAT FEEDBACK. 
          UM, UNLESS MY NEIGHBOR IS DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN THEIR HOME. 
          THEY PROBABLY WON'T SEND YOU NOTICE OF THAT EITHER. 
          YEAH. 
          IF THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL, I TRY TO YEAH, I KNOW . 
          YEAH, I GUESS I, I'M JUST MORE OF A, IF I'M GONNA GO OUT OF TOWN, MY NEIGHBOR KNOWS I'M GOING OUT OF TOWN. 
          YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK SO. 
          WE CAN'T, I'LL GIVE YOU A, UM, FOR THAT. 
          I'LL GIVE YOU AN ACTUAL EXPERIENCE. 
          SO, UH, I HAD A HOUSE DOWN AT THE BEACH IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND RS SIX, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL 6,000 SQUARE FEET, THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL IT HERE. 
          THERE THEY HAVE SIX, 4.5, SIX EIGHT, AND SO FORTH. 
          AND, UM, THE CITY DECIDED TO BAN ON THE ISLAND, WHICH IS VERY, UH, WHAT'S WHERE, UH, VISITOR ORIENTED FOR TOURISTS. 
          AND SO MANY PEOPLE CAME OUT THAT IT TOOK LIKE TWO HOURS AT THREE MINUTE INTERVALS FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH ALL THE PEOPLE WHO CAME AND SAID, NO WAY. 
          OH, I DON'T WANT THAT NEXT TO MY HOUSE. 
          AND THAT HAPPENED A COUPLE OF TIMES OKAY. 
          WHEN THEY WERE GOING THROUGH, AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T FIGURED ALL THE INS AND OUTS, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOODS HERE ARE, BUT THE ISLAND FOLKS, YEAH. 
          THEY CAME OUT IN MASS AND SO NO SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE ALLOWED ON THE ISLAND IN RS SIX, NEAR THE CONDOS OF STUFF. 
          YOU WOULD EXPECT THEM TO HAPPEN. 
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EXACTLY. 
          BUT NO NEIGHBOR AT A SINGLE, SO TO INCLUDE MYSELF WHO LIVED THERE, WANTED ANY OF THAT NEAR THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO TWO HOURS. 
          UM, AND THAT HAPPENED A COUPLE TIMES. 
          SO JUST, SO THEN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, IF IT'S GONNA HAPPEN ANYWAY, AT LEAST IT SHOULD BE REGULATED. 
          MM-HMM. 
          SO THAT'S, THEY DID DO THAT, AND THEY DID ALLOW IT IN SOME OTHER RESIDENTIAL AREAS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE DETAILS, BUT IT, IT'S, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR LIKE FIVE YEARS MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING. 
          IT WASN'T, IT'S NOT, IT WASN'T AN EASY THING. 
          IT WAS ON A NEWS PERIODICALLY EVERY FEW MONTHS AND AT COUNCIL AND VARIOUS THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH HOW WE'RE GONNA DO SHORT-TERM RENTAL MM-HMM. 
          , BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY TOURISTY AREA. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND ALL THE THINGS YOU'RE BRINGING UP, THEY BROUGHT UP, WELL, THAT'S HOW I MAKE MONEY. 
          I, I NEED TO DO IT. 
          AND SO I, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD ONE TO MAYBE LOOK AT, BUT I'M, I'M JUST STANDBY FOR THE TWO HOURS, THAT THREE MINUTE INTERVAL OF, OF PEOPLE COMING, UH, TELL YOU WHAT THEY THINK. 
          WELL, AND COULDN'T A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION BECAUSE A HOMEOWNER'S, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS THE BASE LIMIT AND THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION CAN ADD TO IT THROUGH THEIR CC RS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO IF, IF A, IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF ENFORCEMENT LEVEL WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR PROPERTY MANAGER THAT DRIVE FROM A NOISE OR PARKING IN THE STREET LEVEL, NOT, NOT NOT HAVING AN AIRBNB, BUT ANY TYPE OF, CUZ THERE'S LOTS OF TIMES THERE'S PROBABLY AN AIRBNB THAT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IT'S THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE MINDING ALL THE RULES AND THEY'RE FOLLOWING ALL THE THINGS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE OUTLIERS, THE ONES THAT DON'T, THAT DON'T, AND SO IF YOU'RE IN A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AREA, THEN, THEN AS THE HOMEOWNERS, YOU NEED TO GET WITH YOUR BOARD TO CREATE SOME SORT OF RULE OR ENFORCEMENT AROUND THOSE OUTLIERS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , BUT I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          ONE THING THAT WAS THERE, WHICH IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN SHORT TERM IS, UM, THAT, AND BREAKFAST WAS ALLOWED, SO THE HOMEOWNER LIVED IN THE HOUSE, UH, BUT RENTED IT OUT FOR LIKE A BED AND BREAKFAST. 
          AND THAT WAS MORE ACCEPTABLE, I GUESS WOULD BE THE WORD, UH, BECAUSE THERE WAS MORE CONTROL. 
          AND THEN IT GOES TO THE OWNERS THERE AND IF THERE'S ISSUES, THE OWNER'S THERE TO, TO TAG AND TAKE THE COURT AND SO FORTH. 
          SO, UM, THAT WAS THE OTHER ASPECT. 
          SO THE, THE BED AND BREAKFAST WAS, IT SEEMED MORE, IT'S MILD, BUT THE SHORT TERM, YEAH, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL WAS VERY CONTENTIOUS TO SAY THE LEAST. 
          THE ANSWER IS, THERE IS NO ANSWER. 
           UH, I THINK THE ANSWER IS WE'LL SEE SOME, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING AND PICK OUT SOME THINGS. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? STAFF OR COUNSEL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          FINALLY, ITEM SEVEN, DISCUSS LOCAL PRIORITIES RELATED TO THE TEXAS LEGISLA CHAIR'S 80TH REGULAR SESSION, CITY ATTORNEY SIGNS. 
          WHILE THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC, I JUST WANNA REMIND YOU THAT YOU ARE THE THING THAT STANDS BETWEEN US AND HOME . 
          , YOU'RE LAST UP. 
          YOU'RE LAST UP. 
          SO BRING IT ALL HOME. 
          I'M GONNA BRING IT HOME. 
          AND WHAT I, WHAT I WANNA FOCUS ON IS, SO YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN A LIST OF THE, UM, THE BILLS THAT ARE, HAVE BEEN FILED IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION SO FAR. 
          THIS IS THE 88 LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          THE LEGISLATURE MEETS EVERY TWO YEARS. 
          AND, UH, TML DOES A GOOD JOB OF TRACKING THE BILLS THAT AFFECT CITIES. 
          AND SO WHAT YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET ARE TWO PIECES OF INFORMATION. 
          ONE ARE THE BILLS THAT WERE FILED AS OF LAST FRIDAY THAT TML IS TRACKING. 
          AND THEN THERE'S A, UH, KIND OF A SUMMARY SHEET THAT WE PREPARED THAT I PREPARED MY TEAM PREPARED. 
          I'VE GOTTA GIVE THEM THE CREDIT THAT'S THREE PAGES LONG THAT GIVES YOU SOME, A SYNOPSIS OF SOME OF THE, THE MAJOR BILLS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE MOST IMPACTFUL TO YOU. 
          SHEETS. 
          I COULDN'T HEAR WHAT SHE SAID, BUT I SHE COULDN'T HEAR YOU. 
          SUMMARY PAGE IS NOT IN THE PACKET. 
          SHE'LL EMAILED, EMAILED THAT TO US, THE BACK. 
          IT'S IN THE, I THINK IT'S IN THE BACK. 
          I THINK IT'S IN THE BACK. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S VERY, IT'S THE LAST THREE PAGES. 
          OH, WE GOT IT. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S YES. 
          THERE. 
          IT'S, IT'S THE END OF THE WEEK. 
          SO, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT THERE ARE MANY BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED. 
          YOU NEED A MIC? I'M SORRY. 
          TY, ARE YOU ABLE TO PICK UP THE AUDIO? OKAY. 
          DO I NEED TO, THERE THERE ARE MANY BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED AND, AND THEY WILL NOT ALL SURVIVE THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          DO I NEED TO? OH, HE'S GONNA GET YOU THE MIC. 
          OH, NO, I CAN HEAR HER FINE. 
          I JUST WASN'T 
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SURE. 
          I DON'T SEE A MIC OVER THERE. 
          AND YOU LOOKED CONCERNED. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THIS BETTER? THEY, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY WILL NOT. 
          SO THERE'S BEEN, UM, THERE ARE MANY BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED. 
          THEY WILL NOT ALL, UH, SURVIVAL LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          AND SO I THINK FROM THE COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE, WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO FOCUS ON IS THAT, UM, AS THE, THESE BILLS RUN THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, RUN THROUGH THE, THE PROCESS, THERE WILL BE TIMES THAT THERE ARE BILLS THAT ARE IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW, BECAUSE THEY WILL IMPACT YOU AS A CITY. 
          AND TO CONNECT WITH THE MESSAGE THAT HAS STARTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS RETREAT, WHICH IS YOU HAVE A VISION AND A GOAL FOR THE CITY. 
          SO I, I, I THINK WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THE BILLS THAT IMPACT YOUR LONG TERM AND SHORT TERM VISION AND GOALS FOR THE CITY. 
          THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD REALLY FOCUS YOUR ENERGIES, UM, UH, TO PAYING ATTENTION AND TAKING ANY ACTION THAT YOU THINK IS APPROPRIATE. 
          UM, AS A CITY, YOU CAN, YOU, WE MAY, FROM TIME TO TIME, AS THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION GOES ON, WE'LL ALERT YOU TO THESE BILLS AS THEY'RE COMING FORWARD. 
          AND YOU AS THE CITY MAY BE CALLED UPON TO CONSIDER WHETHER YOU WANNA PASS A RESOLUTION AND SUPPORT OF A BILL OR OPPOSE A BILL. 
          AND SO THIS IS TO GIVE YOU, UH, KIND OF A BACKGROUND TO SET YOU UP FOR THOSE KIND OF DISCUSSIONS AS THEY COME FORWARD. 
          UM, I LOVE THAT. 
          WHAT HAPPENS TO THE RESOLUTION? DO WE FORWARD IT TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES? OR LIKE WHAT HAPPENS? YOU CAN FORWARD IT TO THE, TO THE REPRESENTATIVES. 
          YOU CAN FORWARD IT TO THE SPONSOR OF THE BILL. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S A DOCUMENT THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH AS MANY, UH, PUBLIC REPRESENTATIVES AS YOU NEED. 
          AND IS IT, LIKE, DOES CITY STAFF DO THAT OR DO WE, IS IT ON US TO, TO SEND IT OR? WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. 
          CITY, CITY STAFF AND CITI HAS, UH, APPROVED RESOLUTIONS BEFORE IN SUPPORT OF AND AGAINST IN THE PAST. 
          AND SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROVIDE DIRECTLY TO A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE PARTICULAR, UM, UH, SPONSOR OF THE BILL AND ALSO TO TML, BECAUSE TML COLLECTS THOSE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE A GROUP THAT ADVOCATES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          OKAY. 
          AWESOME. 
          SO WITH THAT SAID, WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS GIVE YOU KIND OF A, SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE THE CITY CAN POTENTIALLY BE, BE MOST IMPACTFUL. 
          UM, AND TO TOUCH BASE ON A FEW OF THE BILLS THAT ARE IN HERE, I'VE GOT THEM BROKEN DOWN BY CATEGORIES, AND I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM JUST TO, I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THE ONES THAT, UM, TO DATE SEEM TO BE THE MOST IMPACTFUL ON WHAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED AS, AS YOUR VISION AND SOME OF YOUR VISIONS AND GOALS FOR THE CITY. 
          SO THE FIRST OF ALL, THE, THERE HAVE BEEN 1600 BILLS FILED BEFORE THE START OF THE LEGISLATION, UH, STARTED OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION EVEN BEGAN. 
          SO BILLS WILL CONTINUE TO BE FILED AS THE LEGISLATURE IS IN SESSION, 1600, 1600 BILLS. 
          THAT'S 250 MORE THAN THE LAST SESSION. 
          SO IT'S A PRETTY, PRETTY HEAVY SESSION. 
          UH, WHAT THAT CAN MEAN IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE HIGH NUMBER OF BILLS, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH TIME THEY HAVE TO DEVOTE TOWARDS GETTING BILLS THROUGH. 
          SO THAT REDUCES, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT CAN, REDUCES POTENTIALLY SOME OF THE BILLS THAT WILL, WILL MAKE IT THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          SO WE FOCUS ON WHAT SEEM TO BE THE PRIORITIES OF THE LEGISLATURE TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT MAY MAKE IT THROUGH. 
          UH, MARCH 10TH IS THE LAST DAY TO FILE BILLS. 
          THE SPEAKER IS IDENTIFIED AS PRIORITIES, ADDITIONAL SPENDING ON INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THAT IN SOME OF THE, THE BILLS WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS WELL AS PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. 
          LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR'S, UM, IDENTIFIED SCHOOL CHOICE. 
          THE STATE BUDGET IS, IS THEY HAVE 188.23 BILLION OF REVENUE AVAILABLE, WHICH IS A 26% INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS BIUM, WHICH AGAIN, THEY MEET EVERY TWO YEARS. 
          THE SURPLUS IS DUE TO SALES, SBE SALES TAX, AND EN AND ENERGY TAXES. 
          SO TML IS A, UH, BODY THAT YOU'RE A MEMBER OF TML, TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, AND THEY ARE ACTIVE IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          AND SO IT, UH, THE REASON I LISTED THEIR PRIORITIES HERE IS SO THAT YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT TM L'S PRIORITIES ARE FOR, UH, WHAT TM L'S PRIORITIES ARE, BECAUSE THIS LETS YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ADVOCATING FOR IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          YOU CAN SEE WHERE THIS ALIGNS WITH YOUR GOALS AS A CITY AND WHERE YOU MAY NEED TO, UH, SUPPLEMENT SOME EFFORTS INDEPENDENTLY IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DECIDE TO DO. 
          UM, IN GENERAL, UH, I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL OF THEM, BUT THOSE ARE LISTED FOR YOU. 
          BUT IN GENERAL, TML IS TRYING TO DEFEAT LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ERODE CITY AUTHORITY OR BE DETRIMENT DETRIMENTAL TO THE CITIES. 
          UH, I'M GONNA READ THIS LIST CAUSE I THINK 
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IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S PREEMPTION OF MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY, UH, IMPOSITION OF FURTHER REVENUE AND TAX CAPS ERODING THE ABILITY OF A CITY TO ISSUE DEBT. 
          UH, ERODING MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY RELATED TO, UH, VARIOUS REGULATORY MATTERS IS LISTED THERE, ERODING, ABOLISHING THE CONCEPT OF AN ETJ ERODING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY TO BE ADEQUATELY COMPENSATED FOR USE OF RIGHTS OF WAY AND LIMITING OR PROHIBITING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OFFICIALS TO USE MUNICIPAL FUNDS. 
          YOU AS A, AS A CITY BODY MAY AGREE WITH SOME OF THESE. 
          YOU MAY, YOU MAY NOT, BUT THAT THAT'S YOU AS A A, THAT'S FOR YOU AS A COUNCIL TO DETERMINE TO SEEK INTRODUCTION. 
          UH, THEY ARE ALSO ADVOCATING FOR CERTAIN LEGISLATION AS, AS LISTED THERE AS WELL. 
          UH, I THINK NOTABLE HERE IS THE, UM, INCREASE IN IN STREET MAINTENANCE, SALES TAX FLEXIBILITY, THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN THE EVENT YOU CONVERT SOME OF YOUR SALES TAX, SALES TAX TO THE STREET SALES TAX IN THE EVENT YOU HAVE SALES TAX. 
          WELL, UM, THEY, THEY'RE LOOKING AT INCREASING THE, THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING THRESHOLD FROM 50,000 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          SO THAT PROVIDES FOR SOME MORE EFFICIENT PROCESSES RELATED TO PROCUREMENT. 
          THOSE ARE, UM, SOME OF THEIR PRIORITIES THEY'RE PUSHING THROUGH. 
          AND AS OF TODAY'S REPORTING, UH, FROM TML, THAT BILL HAS BEEN FILED. 
          SO WITH THAT SAID, I'M GOING TO TOUCH BASE ON THESE CATEGORIES OF CITY BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED AS WELL AS MENTIONED TO YOU, A COUPLE OF THE BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, HAVE, HAVE BEEN REPORTED AS OF TODAY'S LEGISLATIVE UPDATE FROM TML, WHICH ARE NOT IN THIS DOCUMENT. 
          UM, AND I, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL, I'LL UPDATE THIS DOCUMENT EMAIL TO COUNSEL SO YOU HAVE THAT MORE COMPLETE LIST. 
          ONE OF THE MAJOR BILLS TO WATCH IS THERE IS, IS WHENEVER THE LEGISLATURE ADOPTS A A PREEMPTION BILL OR SEEKS TO ADOPT A PREEMPTION BILL, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD SEVERELY IMPACT YOUR, UH, WOULD SEVERELY IMPACT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF YOUR GOALS AND VISIONS AS A CITY. 
          BECAUSE WHAT THE LEGISLATURE IS SEEKING TO DO IS TO LIMIT THE CITY'S AUTHORITY TO ENGAGE IN AND, AND TAKE CERTAIN ACTIONS, WHETHER THEY'RE REGULATORY OR, UM, IMPLEMENTING ANY OF THESE, UM, GOALS THAT YOU HAVE AS A CITY. 
          THE CURRENT PREEMPTION THAT THEY HAVE FILED IS THAT, UH, CITIES ARE, WOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM REGULATING COMMERCE, AND THERE WOULD BE EXCEPTIONS TO THAT. 
          YOU AS A CITY OR YOU'RE A HOME RURAL CITY. 
          SO THAT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE POWERS AND DUTIES THAT ARE SET FORTH IN YOUR CHARTER AND THAT ARE NECESSARILY IMPLIED THERE FROM THAT DO NOT CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S A BROAD POWER OF SELF-GOVERNANCE. 
          AND IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT, YOUR POPULATION AND YOUR VOTERS MAKE THAT DECISION BY GOING THROUGH A CHARTER ELECTION AND PROPOSING CHARTER AMENDMENTS, TH THIS WOULD IMPACT THAT HOME RULE AUTHORITY THAT YOU HAVE. 
          UM, WHAT IS CONCERNING ABOUT THE BILL IS IT'S THE, THE BREADTH OF IT AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OR INTERPRETATION OF IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THIS FOR THINGS SUCH AS LAND USE REGULATIONS, BUT THE, THE DEFINITION OF, UH, COMMERCE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE TRANSACTION OF GOODS AND SERVICES THERE, THERE'RE, THERE'S, AS THE BILL'S CURRENTLY DRAFTED THERE, THERE'S PROVISIONS IN THERE THAT AREN'T ABSOLUTELY CLEAR. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, TO WHAT EXTENT WOULD A CITY'S REGULATORY AUTHORITY BE LIMITED? AND TO WHAT EXTENT DOES SOMETHING CONSTITUTE A REGULATION GOVERNING GOODS OR SERVICES? AND WHEN THERE IS A LACK OF CLARITY, THEN THAT CAN RESULT IN LEGAL DISPUTES ABOUT WHAT, WHAT DOES THE BILL MEAN? SO IT IT IS, IS A BILL THAT WOULD, UH, PROBABLY BE SPENT, THERE'D BE A LOT OF TIME SPENT IN THE COURTROOM DETERMINING WHAT THAT MEANS AS IT IMPACTS THE CITY'S REGULATORY AUTHORITY. 
          SO THAT, THAT IS ONE THAT WOULD, WE WOULD FLAG AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD SEVERELY IMPACT YOUR ABILITY TO CARRY OUT YOUR VISION AND GOALS AS A CITY. 
          UM, REGARDING LAND USE, THE PROVISIONS HERE THAT I THINK ARE NOTABLE ARE, THERE'S A BILL THAT'S PROPOSED TO LIMIT THE EXTENT OF A CITY'S E T J. 
          RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE, I BELIEVE, A THREE MILE E T J AND THE, THIS BILL, HB 1279, WOULD PROPOSE TO REDUCE THAT TO A QUARTER MILE SOME OF THESE BILLS THAT I'M NOTING FOR YOU, UM, GIVEN WHERE YOU ARE IN EVALUATING YOUR GROWTH PATTERNS AND, UH, YOUR COMMITMENTS TO IN CITY VERSUS OUT OF CITY AND HOW YOU WANT TO MANAGE THAT. 
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SOME OF THESE BILLS I I SEE AS NOT NECESSARILY POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, BUT SUBJECT TO THERE'S, IT'S A PROCON IS THE, IN SOME WAYS THIS MAY BE GOOD, IN SOME WAYS IT MAY NOT. 
          UH, SO, SO LIKE ON THAT ONE WE DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES CITIES ARE REALLY USING IN CITY, UH, DEBT EFFECTIVELY TO SERVE A JUST ON THE EDGE IN YOUR ETK CUSTOMER FOR WATER MM-HMM. 
           AND, YOU KNOW, REDUCTION OF THE E G A. 
          UH, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT HAVING TO SERVE A MUD THAT IS IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO YOU, MAYBE THAT'S A NEGOTIATING POINT. 
          SO THERE MAY BE SOME, UH, A, A GLIMMER WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT, UH, THERE COULD BE A, A COMPROMISE IF, BUT I SUSPECT THEY'RE VERY TILTED. 
          UH, LIKE THAT ETJ COMET MAY BE AS SIMPLE AS, HEY, WE DON'T WANNA BE IN YOUR EJ, BUT BY THE WAY, YOUR CCN, YOU STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THE WATER. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF ALL OF THE THREE DIMENSIONAL ASPECT TO SOME EX YOUR, YOUR EJ PRESERVES YOUR GROWTH AREA, UM, AND IT'S WHEN SOMEONE IS IN YOUR ETJ, THEN YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO ANNEX AT THIS POINT ONLY IF THEY REQUEST IT. 
          SO THAT IS WHERE ETJ, WHEN, WHEN YOU HAD THE ABILITY TO INVOLUNTARILY ANNEX ETJ HAD MORE OF A, A BENEFIT, I WOULD SAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED LIKE WHAT THE POINT WAS OF THE EJ, SO THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          BACK WHEN YOU COULD INVOLUNTARILY ORGANICS IT, IT WAS LIKE IT WAS A, AN AREA THAT THE CITY WOULD POTENTIALLY GROW INTO. 
          AND SO THERE'S A, SOME REGULATORY AUTHORITY OVER THE ETJ, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS IF IT'S WITHIN YOUR CITY LIMIT. 
          SO THAT IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A PLANNING AREA AS THE CITY GROWS, YOU EXERCISE SOME PLANNING AUTHORITY OF THAT OVER THAT AREA, UH, BEFORE IT COMES INTO THE CITY. 
          THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF E T J WHEN THERE WAS A, UH, UNILATERAL OR INVOLUNTARY ANNEXATION THANK YOU OPTION AVAILABLE. 
          WE'RE ALMOST NOW CURRENTLY UNDER THE SAME RULES THAT, UH, GENERAL LAW CITIES ORIGINALLY HAD, WHERE WE USED TO CALL IT THE VAMPIRE CLAUSE, THEY HAD TO INVITE YOU IN. 
          OH. 
          SO THAT NOW EVERYBODY BASICALLY IS OPERATING UNDER THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, I'LL NOTE THAT UNDER LAND USE THERE, UH, ONE OF THE BENEFICIAL BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED IS SALE OF PARKLAND BY A HOME RURAL CITY SALE OF PARKLAND TYPICALLY HAS TO BE APPROVED BY AN ELECTION. 
          THIS PROVIDES ANOTHER EXCEPTION FOR HOME RURAL CITIES TO BE ABLE TO SELL PARKLAND TWO ACRES OR LESS WITHOUT AN ELECTION, MARK WOULD KILL US. 
          I'M SORRY, MARK WOULD KILL US. 
          YES, HE'S LAUGHED, BUT HE, BUT HE'S, THIS IS THE TIME TO GET ANYTHING OUT OF MARK YOU'D LIKE. 
          , UH, PROPERTY TAXES. 
          SO THE PROPERTY TAX, PROPERTY TAX, UH, REGULATION IS, IS HIGH ON THE LIST OF PRIORITIES. 
          IN THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE THAT CAME OUT TODAY, THERE IS A BILL, BUT THAT'S BEEN FILED TO, UH, PROVIDE FOR ELIMINATION OF PROPERTY TAXES BY 2033, CREATING A JOINT INTERIM COMMITTEE TO CONDUCT A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY OF ALTERNATIVE METHODS OF TAXATION TO REPLACE LOCAL TAX REVENUE THAT WILL BE LOST FROM PROPERTY TAXES ARE ELIMINATED. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S A BILL THAT WAS, HAS BEEN FILED AND REPORTED AS OF TODAY. 
          DO WE ANTICIPATE A POSSIBILITY OF PASSAGE? IT'S, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF PROBLEMS TO WORK THROUGH BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF IN BONDED INDEBTEDNESS THAT IS, IS SECURED BY ABALONE TAXES AND SO RIGHT. 
          IT'S, AND WE'RE CONSTITUTIONALLY PROHIBITED FROM, I'M SORRY, SORRY. 
          WE'RE CONSTITUTIONALLY PROHIBITED FROM AN INCOME TAX. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY WOULD REPLACE PROPERTY TAX, WHICH WAS IS THAT, UH, IT IS NOT, IT IS NOT ON THAT. 
          IT WAS IT, YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT IS ONE THAT I'M GONNA SUPPLEMENT FOR YOU BECAUSE THAT WAS REPORTED AS OF TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, IT WAS FILED WITHIN THE LAST WEEK. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S CRAZY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          SOMETIMES LAWS ARE CRAZY. 
          HOLD ON. 
          SOMETIMES IT, IT IS TO START THE DISCUSSION. 
          YOU SEE LAWS GET FILED AND THEY WANT TO START THE DISCUSSION. 
          IT MAY NOT MAKE IT THROUGH AND IT'S IT'S CURRENT FORM. 
          MM-HMM. 
          IT MAY BE REVISED AS IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS AND IT MAY NOT MAKE IT VERY FAR, BUT I THINK THE FINANCIAL IMPACT, ESPECIALLY ON OUTSTANDING DEBT, WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH THAT THERE WOULD BE A VERY CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF THAT PARTICULAR PARTICULAR BILL. 
          UM, OTHER THAN THAT THEY'VE, UH, PROPOSED THERE, THERE'S A, AN ADDITIONAL PROPOSITION TO, UM, HAVE AN APPRAISAL CAP THAT WOULD ESTABLISH 
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AN APPRAISAL CAP ON THE APPRAISED VALUE OF RESIDENCE HOMESTEADS TO THE LESSER OF 10% OF THE APPRAISED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY FOR THE PRECEDING YEAR OR THE PRODUCT OF AN INFLATIONARY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THERE'S A, THEY'RE SEEKING TO LIMIT THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUATION, WHICH HAS KIND OF BEEN PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE FORMULA OF REGULATING AND CONTROLLING PROPERTY TAXES. 
          THAT ONE WOULD REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION AS WELL. 
          SO THE BILL WOULD PASS IF THE BILL PASSES, THERE WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT APPROVED. 
          THERE'S A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL, UM, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, PROPOSED THAT WOULD GIVE THE CITY THE OPTION OF, OF ADOPTING SOME ADDITIONAL OR CHANGED METHOD OF ADOPTING HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS AND MORE DETAILS PROVIDED ON THAT IN THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION WITH RESPECT TO SALES TAX, THE, THERE'S A BILL THAT'S PROPOSED TO, UM, CHANGE THE METHOD OF DETERMINING WHERE SALES TAX IS, UH, CALCULATED FOR THE PURPOSE OF, UM, IMPOSING SALES TAX ON BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS. 
          CURRENTLY, THE, IT'S, IT'S WHERE THE SALE, IT'S WHERE THE ITEM IS SHIPPED OR DELIVERED OR WHERE THE CUSTOMER TAKES POSSESSION OF THE ITEM. 
          THAT'S WHAT DETERMINES THE, UH, WHETHER IT'S THAT TRANSACTION IS SUBJECT TO SALES TAX. 
          THERE'S A BILL THAT PROPOSES TO CHANGE THAT TO THE LOCATION WHERE THE ITEM HAS BEEN STORED. 
          UH, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT. 
          NO. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT COULD THAT EVEN PASS THE SIDE OF WAYFAIR. 
          I THINK IT'S TRYING TO GET, GET AROUND THAT, TRYING TO LOOK AT ANOTHER WAY AROUND THE WAYFAIR AGREEMENT. 
          IT DELL IS ANOTHER BIG MM-HMM. 
           BIG SUPPORTER OF THIS, RIGHT? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BUT I'M JUST, I DON'T UNDERSTAND, MAYBE I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE WAYFAIR AGREEMENT CUZ THIS FEELS LIKE IT'S, IT WOULD BE TRYING TO SAME THING, SORT THAT BACK TO THE OLD MODEL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          HUH? WHICH SOURCE? SOURCE WE BENEFIT FROM THE CURRENT YES, WE DO. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. 
          SHOP LEANDER FROM HOME. 
          YES. 
          SO THIS IS FLAG DOES ONE THAT WOULD CURRENTLY CONNECT THE CURRENT STATE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THERE'S AN SENATE BILL 3 33 PROVIDES THAT PRE A PRE 2019 PLACE OF BUSINESS UNDER THREE 80 AGREEMENT REMAINS WHERE A LOCAL SALES TAXES ARE SOURCED FOR THE DURATION OF THE AGREEMENT. 
          SO THIS IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF, UM, TRYING TO PRESERVE AGREEMENTS THAT, UH, ARE BASED ON, UH, THAT ARE INTENDING TO COLLECT A SALES AND REBATES REBATE SALES TAX BASED ON THE PLACE OF BUSINESS BEING WITHIN THE CITY. 
          AND, UH, CONTINUING TO PROVIDE THE BENEFIT OF THE, THAT THE, THAT PLACE OF BUSINESS BEING WITHIN THE CITY OF LIMITS AS OPPOSED TO, UM, BEING CHANGED BY LATER LAWS. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO CURRENT 3D AGREEMENTS. 
          ON OTHER TAX NOTES, THERE'S A BILL THAT WOULD PROPOSE TO, UM, ALLOW USE OF LOCAL HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES TO BE SPENT ON PARKS. 
          SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY, UH, USE OF REVENUE FOR THAT PURPOSE. 
          THE PARK HAS TO BE LOCATED WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE HOTEL. 
          UH, WITH RESPECT TO ELECTIONS AND DEBT. 
          I'LL NOTE A COUPLE OF HERE THAT MAY BE IMPACTFUL TO THE CITY. 
          HB 180 7 WOULD PROPOSE TO MOVE ALL DEBT ELECTIONS TO NOVEMBER. 
          SO THAT WOULD PLACE, THAT WOULDN'T TAKE AWAY YOUR DISCRETION TO HOLD ELECTIONS FOR THE ISSUANCE OF GO BONDS. 
          UM, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE DISCRETION HOLDING THOSE IN MAY OR NOVEMBER. 
          IT WOULD REQUIRE THOSE TO BE PLACED ON A NOVEMBER BALLOT. 
          WOULD THAT MEAN WE'D END UP HAVING TO PAY FOR TWO ELECTIONS? CORRECT. 
          YEAH, YOU'D HAVE TO PAY FOR A NOVEMBER ELECTION AND IT, IT MAY, UH, IF THE, IF THERE'S A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION DURING THE YEAR THAT YOU WOULD WISH TO ISSUE GO TO THE VOTERS WITH A, A GEO BOND ELECTION, THEN THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S COULD BE A LOT OF ITEMS ON THE BALLOT THAT IMPACTS THE VOTER. 
          EITHER THE VOTER TURNOUT OR THE VOTERS PAYING ATTENTION TO RIGHT DOWN THE BALLOT, THE BILL TO THE WELL, AND THAT WOULD ALSO MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR MORE LOCATIONS TO HAVE POLLING. 
          RIGHT? BECAUSE CAN'T YOU, ISN'T IT MORE IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTION BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR ALL TRAVIS COUNTY LOCATIONS AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY LOCATIONS INSTEAD OF JUST THE ONES WITHIN LEANDER? I'M NOT SURE. 
          SORRY. 
          YES, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST A 11 ELECTION. 
          SORRY, IT'S AVERAGED OUT SO OVER THE COURSE OF YOUR CONTRACT. 
          SO YES, THERE IS A HIGHER EXPENSE IN NOVEMBER THAN MAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, UM, REMINDER, RECENT CHANGE IS THAT W WE WOULD BE PAYING TRAVIS COUNTY AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY WHERE PREVIOUSLY WILLIAMSON COUNTY WAS COVERING OUR ELECTIONS. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
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LET'S SEE ON, SO I'M GONNA SKIP TO THE LIST OF OTHER BILLS. 
          I'M GONNA, THE, THE REST ARE, UM, I WOULD SAY ARE NOT AS IMPACTFUL AS A COUPLE OF THE OTHERS UNDER THIS OTHER CATEGORY. 
          HB ONE 70 WOULD INCREASE LOBBYING TRANSPARENCY FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. 
          THAT IN AND OF ITSELF ISN'T NECESSARILY AN ISSUE. 
          IT'D JUST BE A COMPLIANCE IN WHICH YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE CERTAIN INFORMATION ABOUT ANY LOBBYING CONTRACTS THE CITY WERE TO ENTER, INCLUDING THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH HOW MUCH YOU'RE PAYING THE CONTRACT, UM, THE ENTITY THAT YOU'RE CONTRACTING WITH HER LOBBYING SERVICES. 
          AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, TRANSPARENT IN THE PROCESS. 
          BUT HB ONE, SB 1 75, THAT BILL PROPOSES TO PREVENT CITIES FROM HIRING LOBBYISTS OR JOINING ORGANIZATIONS THAT LOBBY. 
          AND SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE TML MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND THESE TYPES OF, THESE BILLS GET FILED, UM, LATELY EVERY LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          AND THE LAST TIME, UH, THERE WAS SOME SUCCESS IN GETTING SOME TRANSPARENCY RULES ADOPTED, UH, IN ONE OF THE PRIOR LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS. 
          BUT YOU SEE THESE CONT THESE CONTINUING THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE IMPACTFUL TO THE CITY. 
          AS YOU GROW AS A CITY, YOU, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LAWS THAT IMPACT YOU, THAT YOU MAY WANT TO PARTICIPATE MORE, UM, TARGET IN A MORE TARGETED WAY, IN A MORE ACTIVE WAY IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. 
          WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A BILL THAT'S GOING TO HURT YOUR, UH, VISION AND YOUR GOALS, OR YOU NEED TO PROMOTE LEGISLATION OR BRING FORWARD A BILL THAT YOU AS A CITY NEED TO BE ADOPTED FOR YOUR OWN VISION AND GOALS. 
          AND SO THIS TYPE OF BILL WOULD PREVENT YOU FROM DOING THAT. 
          I WILL NOTE JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS FROM THE, UH, THE LIST THAT CAME OUT TODAY, AND THEN WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. 
          UM, REGARDING THE, THE GOAL OF THE, THE LEGISLATURE TO PROVIDE MORE FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND THE, THE LEGISLATURE HAS IDENTIFIED WE NEED TO INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAKE THAT, UH, MAKE FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THOSE PURPOSES. 
          WHAT IS NOT ON HERE IS, UH, THERE, THERE ARE GONNA BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPING, UM, FUNDING FOR BROADBAND, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP PROMOTE BROADBAND NETWORKS THROUGHOUT STATE OF TEXAS BECAUSE THERE, THERE ARE AREAS WHERE THERE'S, IT IS QUITE DEFICIENT. 
          AND AS WE HAVE SEEN WHEN WE'VE HAD TO GO TO REMOTE SETTINGS, SOME PEOPLE, SOME PLACES CAN'T FUNCTION, UH, THE WAY OTHERS CAN WHEN THERE'S A MORE, A BETTER INTERNET CONNECTION. 
          UM, WITH RESPECT TO TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, UH, UH, H HP 1379, AND THIS WILL BE ON THE SUPPLEMENTARY LIST. 
          IT'S NOT ON THIS LIST. 
          UM, TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS WOULD, WOULD, THE DEFINITION OF TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS WOULD BE EXPANDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF REGIONAL MOBILITY AUTHORITIES TO BE ABLE TO INCLUDE URBAN GREEN SPACE OR AESTHETIC ENHANCEMENTS LOCATED ABOVE OR ADJACENT TO OUR CONNECTION WITH AN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY. 
          AND IT CAN INCLUDE RECREATIONAL, BICYCLE, PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES AND INTERMODAL HUB PARKING AREAS AND COMPONENTS THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE USERS OF TRANS TRANSIT, PEDESTRIAN OTHER TRANSPORTATION MODES, AND PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN ADJACENT AREAS. 
          SO THIS BILL PROVIDES A TOOL FOR YOU TO USE WITH YOUR PARTNER CAP METRO PARTNER TO USE SOME OF THAT FUNDING FOR ADDITIONAL, UM, ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE CITY AND CAP METRO. 
          UH, THE STATE IS ALSO, WHAT WAS THE NUMBER ON THAT ONE AGAIN? UH, HB 1379, AND I'LL PROVIDE YOU THAT DOCUMENT AS WELL. 
          UH, THERE IS PROPOSED A, A TEXAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION TO PROVIDE THAT SOME OF THE REVENUES THAT ARE DE TRANSFERRED TO THE STATE HIGHWAY FUND CAN BE USED FOR CONSTRUCTING, MAINTAINING, AND ACQUIRING RIGHT OF WAY FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC BICYCLE PATHS AND PUBLIC SIDEWALKS. 
          SO THERE'S FUNDING THAT IS, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO USE FUNDING WITHIN THE STATE AS WELL FOR SOME OF THESE, UH, MORE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. 
          AND I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT IS IT. 
          UH, JUST ONE MORE NOTE. 
          THERE'S THE, THERE'S ANOTHER BILL THAT ADDRESSES, THERE'S ANOTHER BILL THAT ADDRESSES, UH, FUNDING AND GRANT FUNDING PROPOSING FOR, UH, GRANT FUNDING TO BE AVAILABLE TO WATER PROVIDERS SUCH AS THE CITY WATER WASTEWATER PROVIDERS TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR HARDENING 
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THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS, UM, TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THESE EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS WE'VE HAD. 
          AND SO THE STATE IS WORKING TO PASS BILLS TO MAKE FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR SOME OF THOSE MANDATES THAT ARE COMING DOWN RELATED TO, UH, HARDENING AND IMPROVING THE CITY'S WATER WASTEWATER SYSTEMS TO PROTECT AGAINST THOSE EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS, INCLUDING PROVIDING FUNDING FOR GENERATORS AND THOSE TYPES OF, THAT TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO COMPLY WITH LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED IN THE PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS. 
          THANKS. 
          UM, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES. 
          UNDER ELECTIONS IN DEBT HB 2 59 AND 3 59, WHAT IS PREFERENTIAL VOTING? PREFERENTIAL VOTING IS RANKING CANDIDATES. 
          AND SO INSTEAD OF JUST VOTING FOR ONE CANDIDATE, YOU WOULD, IF YOU HAVE FOR EXAMPLE, FOR PLACE OH, ONE OF PLACE OF THIS ONE, YOU WOULD VOTE FOR THOSE IN YOUR SECOND CHOICE. 
          CORRECT. 
          YOU'D, YOU'D RANK THEM FOR A SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH. 
          AND THEN THE STATUTE DEFINES HOW YOU, YOU HAVE TO GET A MAJORITY VOTE FOR ONE OF THE CANDIDATES AND THE STATUTE DEFINES HOW DO YOU, UH, REALLOCATE THE VOTES IF THE TOP CANDIDATE DOESN'T RECEIVE A MAJORITY VOTE? SO WOULD ALLOW RANK VOTING. 
          SO INSTEAD OF, OKAY, I GUESS THAT'S TO, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A MEAL AND IT WOULD AUTHORIZE, IT WOULD AUTHORIZE CITIES TO DO THIS, SO IT WOULDN'T BE REQUIRED, IT WOULD AUTHORIZE CITIES TO USE RANKED VOTING AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO LEGAL AMEND YOUR CHARTER TO IMPLEMENT THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT WOULD STILL BE UP TO CITIES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , IT'S OKAY. 
          LIKE THEY HAVE IT IN OTHER STATES, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE IT. 
          HERE IS MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          CHOICE RANK CHARTER VOTING, THEY CALLED PREFERENTIAL VOTING IS HOW THEY REFER TO IT IN THE STATUTE OR THE PROPOSED STATUTE. 
          THEY DO IT IN NEW YORK. 
          UM, COUNSEL ANYTHING AND IF, IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE OTHER BILLS WE HAVE NOT TOUCHED ON, PLEASE LET, THIS IS GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS VERY GOOD. 
          THIS IS GOOD TO KNOW. 
          AND, AND OF COURSE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SO CONFUSING. 
          YOU CAN TAKE ONE BILL AND, AND NOT BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          SO HAVING THIS, THIS IS VERY HELPFUL. 
          SORRY, I'M WONDERING IF, UM, I MEAN IT'S JUST, WE KIND OF HAVE TO SIT BACK AND WAIT, DO WE EMAIL OUR REPRESENTATIVES, SAY, PLEASE SUPPORT THIS OR DON'T SUPPORT THIS. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS MORE JUST FOR OUR INFORMATION, BUT WELL, THERE'S SEVERAL OPTIONS. 
          I MEAN, YOU, YOU AS INDIVIDUAL VOTERS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS CAN USE THIS INFORMATION AND EMAIL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE AS INDIVIDUALS TO SPEAK AS A COUNCIL. 
          YOU COULD TAKE UP A RESOLUTION TO SPEAK TO SUPPORT ONE SUPPORT, UM, RECOMMEND SUCH AS ADDITIONS. 
          THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, VERY SIMILAR MM-HMM. 
           IS WILL YOU AND THE CITY MANAGER BE BRINGING US RECOMMENDATIONS FOR RESOLUTIONS THROUGHOUT THE, THE CYCLE? YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YES. 
          AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING, I MEAN, AUSTIN'S NOT FAR. 
          IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT US TO GO TESTIFY ON, I'M HAPPY TO, WE, WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, WE DID SOME THINGS LAST, UH, CYCLE MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND IF WE NEED TO GO TESTIFY OR SEND A DELEGATION ANDT ONTO BILLS AND SO FORTH, OR SUPPORT THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD AWESOME. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO ESCALATE OUR STRATEGY INSTEAD OF LETTING THINGS HAPPEN TO US EACH CYCLE. 
          WELL, IT,  AND FOLLOW UP QUESTION I GUESS TO THAT IS SOMETIMES THEY'RE STRENGTHENED NUMBERS AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THESE ARE APPLICABLE TO OUR NEIGHBORS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP DEEPER RELATIONSHIPS WITH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO I MEAN, RICKER, WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE OTHER CITY MANAGERS ON? AND IT'S NOT JUST LAND OR GOING DOWN TO THE STATE. 
          IT'S, IT'S ALL OF US GOING, ESPECIALLY AS WE GO, AS THESE KIND OF FILTER DOWN THE ONES THAT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT OUTTA COMMITTEE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND AS WE YES. 
          GET THE PRIORITIES, THE ONES THAT ARE, THAT MAY ACTUALLY GO TO VOTE THAT WE'RE ADVOCATING AND THAT WE GO AS, AS A GROUP. 
          SO E T J, CCN, UM, THIS MOBILITY ONE, ALL THOSE MOBILITY. 
          I MEAN, AND YOU TOUCHED ON THE RMA PIECE. 
          NOW THE RMA ONE'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WE HAVE TOLL ROAD, THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE KNOWN AS TOLL DEVELOPMENT CREDITS. 
          IT WOULD BE NICE IF, LET'S JUST SAY THEORETICALLY IF STRUCTURED PARKING AND HIGH DENSITY STUFF IS NEEDS TO BE FUNDED. 
          AND WE ALSO HAVE THE MMD AND ENABLING LEGISLATION THAT IT ALL COMES FROM A SOURCE BETWEEN EVEN TO MATCH IT NOT LOCAL SOURCES IN TERMS OF, UH, MONEY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IF THE RMA COULD HELP PARTICIPATE IN THAT MOBILITY SOLUTION, IT'D BE GREAT. 
          TO YOUR POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS, I THINK, UM, I THINK CEDAR PARK LIKE HAS A LOBBYIST OR SOMETHING AND SO I I'M SURE A LOT OF THEIR ISSUES ARE SIMILAR TO OURS. 
          SO YEAH, WE COULD, I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER ON SOME OF THIS THINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE 
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IS ALREADY SORT OF THERE FOR US TO PARTNER AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT AS THIS FILTERS, IF WE NEED TO RETAIN A LOBBYIST, A NEXT STEP, BUT WE'RE GONNA MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          WE'D WANNA BE VERY STRATEGIC IN, IN THAT THE FIRST, ESPECIALLY THE FIRST GO AROUND. 
          AND I KNOW SOME CITIES JUST PUT ONE ON RETAINER AND THEY'RE KIND OF JUST CHURNING THE ACCOUNT. 
          WE DON'T WANT THAT. 
          WE WANT TO BUILD IT VERY STRATEGIC. 
          I THAT MS. SCIENCE, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? UH, THERE IS AN ADDITION THAT PLANNING DIRECTOR WOULD LIKE US TO MAKE TO THIS. 
          THERE, THERE IS CURRENTLY A SHOT CLOCK BILL ON FILE AND I THINK EVERYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH THE SHOT CLOCK REGULATIONS. 
          UM, THERE WILL, THERE'S ONE NOTED HERE, BUT THERE WILL BE MORE. 
          THIS CURRENT ONE PROVIDES THAT THE CITY CAN'T IMPOSE PREREQUISITES OR CONDITIONS TO FILE A PLAN OR PLAT. 
          THERE WILL BE MORE. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO LET ROBIN ADDRESS, I THINK, UM, MY ISSUE WAS WE SAW THE, THE LETTER THAT WAS, UM, SENT, UH, WHO DID THAT GO TO PAXTON OR SO, SO THERE'S AN, I THINK IT WAS A REQUEST FOR AN AG AN AG OPINION WAS ISSUED. 
          AND THE TIMING OF AG OPINION REQUESTS ARE, ARE SOMETIMES STRATEGIC WHEN IT COMES TO A LEGISLATURE BEING IN SESSION. 
          AND SO AN AN OPINION WILL GO TO, A REQUEST WILL BE SENT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE REQUESTING AN OPINION ON THE APPLICATION OR IMPLEMENTATION OF, OF A LAW. 
          AND IN THIS CASE IT'S THE SHOT CLOCK RULES. 
          AND UH, THE, THE REQUEST IN THIS CASE WAS, IT'S VERY KIND OF ONE-SIDED AS TO HERE, HERE'S THE IMPACT ON THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. 
          THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND, AND CITIES ARE NOT BEHAVING CORRECTLY IN IMPLEMENTING THIS IN BAD FAITH AND, AND, AND, AND NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATUTE. 
          THERE'S A FOOTNOTE IN THERE THAT MENTIONS LEANER IN LAND'S REGULATIONS. 
          OH. 
          AND I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE IT. 
          IT'S ACCURATE AT ALL. 
          THEY USED OUR WEBSITE FROM 2019 WHEN WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THE SHOT CLOCK, UM, TO STATE THAT WE WERE NOT INTERPRETING IT CORRECTLY FOR OUR DIFFERENT APPLICATION TYPES, BUT THEY DIDN'T USE OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE OR PROCESS. 
          SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY YEAH. 
          THAT WE ARE DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO AND WE'RE NOT REJECTING PEOPLE AND SAYING, OH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DRAINAGE REPORT FINISHED BEFORE WE SUBMIT YOUR PLANS. 
          HOW. 
          BUT THAT WAS KIND OF THE ACCUSATION OF THE LETTER. 
          HOW WOULD THEY FIND THAT IF IT IT WAS ON OUR WEBSITE IN 2019. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE USING OUR IT'S IT EXISTED. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT WAS OUR VERY INITIAL, THIS IS HAPPENING GUYS. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHO FILED IT. 
          UM, OLIVER, WE CAN GET, WE CAN PROVIDE YOU A COPY OF THAT REQUEST. 
          OKAY. 
          HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO HIM? WELL, I HAD TO TALK TO Y'ALL FIRST, RIGHT. 
          CAUSE I'D BE ON BEHALF THE CITY AND CLARIFY. 
          RIGHT? YEAH, PLEASE DO. 
          PLEASE. 
          ANOTHER OH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          INFORMATION. 
          AND WE CAN ALSO, DURING THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION OF, DURING ONE OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS WHEN THEY WERE REVIEWING SHOT CLOCK ISSUES, UM, ROBIN DID PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION TO TML AS IT WAS BEING CONSIDERED. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. 
          SO TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE CONSIDERED, BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS IS PEOPLE WANT SOMETHING DONE, THEY TELL THEIR SIDE OF THE STORY, BUT THAT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE SIDE OF THE STORY AND SOMETIMES INFORMATION IS MISSING OR IT'S, IT'S INACCURATE OR PEOPLE ARE NOT UNDERSTANDING. 
          SO IN THAT PROCESS, SHE PROVIDED VERY GOOD INFORMATION THAT, THAT TML WAS ABLE TO USE TO KIND OF HELP EDUCATE PEOPLE THAT ARE CONSIDERING THESE BILLS. 
          AND SO IT, IT'S VERY USEFUL FOR US TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT WAY. 
          LOVE IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THIS, THIS, THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR MAY BE ONE YOU SEE WITH US COMING TO YOU FIRST MAYBE IN A MEETING TO SEEK A RESOLUTION TO ACKNOWLEDGE A RESPONSE, WHETHER THAT'S TO TML OR TO THE REPRESENTATIVES OR TO THE STATE IN GENERAL. 
          THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          IS THERE AN APPETITE TO WORK ON FUTURE LEGISLATION AND TRY TO GET THAT IN THE NEXT SESSION? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          I MEAN THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO GO TO THE PROACTIVE PIECE. 
          AND ALSO TESTING THE WATERS WITH OUR, UH, REGIONAL ALLIES AND STATEWIDE AND PEERS WHERE WE ACTUALLY, YOU, YOU NEVER WANT TO BE THE ONE TO SAY, OKAY, IT'S JUST US AND THIS BRACKET WHEN YOU CAN FIND COMMONALITIES. 
          AND YES, IT'LL, YOU KNOW, AFFECT A BUNCH OF OTHER, UH, GOVERNMENTAL UNITS TO THE GOOD. 
          THEN YOU CAN GET ALLIES TO GET THINGS DONE. 
          AND WE'RE OPEN TO COUNCIL INPUT. 
          I KNOW WE COULD GO ALL KINDS OF PLACES WITH REQUESTS FOR FUTURE LEGISLATION. 
          SO, UM, IS THERE SOMETHING WE COULD TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION FUNDING, ? UM, I'M SURE THERE'S, THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS, UM, THAT, THAT WE COULD ALL COME UP WITH, BUT I JUST WANTED TO DO A PLUG WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS TML, UH, PRIORITIES LIST, A LOT OF THEIR PRIORITIES COME FROM CITY BILL, WELL NOT BILLS, 
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BUT CITY PROPOSITIONS THAT GET FILED WITH TML. 
          I THINK THE CUTOFF IS APRIL EVERY YEAR AND THEY DO A RESOLUTIONS COMMITTEE AND THEN THE FINAL VOTE IS IN OCTOBER AT THE, THE CONFERENCE. 
          AND UM, AND THAT'S WHERE EVERYBODY VOTES ON WHAT THE DIFFERENT CITIES HAVE DONE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO LIKE, I'M LOOKING AT THE PAY AS YOU GO FINANCING. 
          ONE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP LIKE THREE YEARS AGO WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THAT GROUP AND THEY LIKED IT, BUT IT'S LONG GAME. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO, UM, IF YOU GET THAT PASSED BY THAT GROUP, TML, FOR BETTER OR WORSE, CUZ SOME LAWMAKERS HATE THEM, UM, WE'LL TAKE IT UP AS AN ACTION BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, THE MEMBERSHIP HAS VOTED ON IT AND SO IT'S AT LEAST ONE MORE VOICE THAT WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR, UM MM-HMM. 
          , BUT YEAH, NO, IT DOES TAKE A WHILE FOR A PERIOD I WAS THE HOUSTON REP FOR THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES. 
          UH, SO THAT'S AT THE, SO WHEN YOU'RE SPITBALLING LEGISLATION AT THE, IN DC THEN YOU CAN JUST IMAGINE WHAT THAT'S LIKE AND THEN GETTING THINGS SUPPORTED. 
          LIKE WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO, TO HEAD THAT DIRECTION. 
          AND SINCE I THINK WE'VE GOT, WE CAN SUPPLEMENT, UH, WITH THE LOBBYIST AT SOME POINT IF IT'S, BUT WE'D ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S THE, THE RIGHT ONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          TIME COST. 
          LET ME HAVE AN ROI. 
          LIKE THERE'S, I THINK IT'S JUST RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES THERE ON THE STATE LEVEL MM-HMM. 
           AND ALSO FROM, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS DIFFERENT, BUT FROM THE FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL THAT WE'RE PULLING ON OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH KE METRO TO SORT OF DOUBLE DOWN ON THAT AND THEN WORK ON THE STATE LEVEL TO CHANGE FUNDING AND MECHANISMS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ALTOGETHER. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S A REALLY BIG GAME, BUT YEAH, IT'S, YEAH. 
          START SOMEWHERE. 
          WELL, AND WE'VE GOT ALLIES NOT JUST IN THE CAP METRO AREA, BUT UP AROUND DFW, A LOT OF THE SMALLER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IN DART ON THE SAME POSITION WE ARE IN. 
          AND THEY'RE ALL ANGRY ABOUT IT TOO. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO, UM, I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH TML YESTERDAY ABOUT CONNECTING WITH, AND THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE, THEY KNOW WHO THESE OTHER CITIES ARE. 
          AND IT'S INTERESTING, TML TAKES NO POSITION ON, UM, ON LIKE FOUR A, FOUR B BECAUSE OF THE CONTROVERSY OVER CITIES LIKE OURS THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT BECAUSE OF, UH, RAILROAD. 
          BUT ANYWAY, UM, THERE ARE OTHER CITIES IN THE SAME BOAT THAT I THINK WITH THE STRENGTH IN NUMBERS, WE CAN COMBINE WITH THEM AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND, AND AT LEAST IT'S NOT JUST US SCREAMING IN TO AVOID, I KNOW LAGO IS SUBMITTING SOMETHING RIGHT NOW TOO. 
          SO YEAH. 
          THE FUTURE, THAT'LL BE GOOD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, I, WHAT WE WERE GONNA GET, I REQUESTED, UH, THE, THE MEETING WITH, UM, THE DEVELOPERS. 
          ARE WE DOING THAT? IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT, BUT THAT I HAD ASKED ABOUT IT, SO. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL OF COURSE. 
          CAN I JUST SAY, UH, BEFORE WE WRAP UP, IF THIS SEEMED ENHANCED IN EVERYTHING THIS TIME AND ALL THE DETAIL, IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF STAFF. 
          THEY WORKED TIRE TIRELESSLY ON THIS, ON DETAILS, EVERYTHING. 
          SO, UM, AND WE'RE JUST GONNA KEEP MOVING THAT DIRECTION IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU. 
          IT'S BEEN VERY WELL DONE. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE YOU ALL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED. 
          HAPPY WEEKEND. 
          IT IS 4:28 PM.
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