* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:06] GOOD EVENING. GOOD [1. Open meeting] EVENING. TODAY IS TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 7TH, 2020, 2023. THE TIME IS 6:30 PM AND THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING WITH LEANDER CITY COUNCIL. CITY SECRETARY CRABTREE. [2. Roll Call.] WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER KATHERINE BATTALION PARKER. HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER SM MATT DELANIA, COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD. HERE, MAYOR NICOLE THOMPSON. PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS CERNEY. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BECKY ROSS. HERE, MAYOR CHRISTINE DELK. HERE. QUORUM IS PRESENT IN THE CITY COUNCIL, IS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS NON AGENDA ITEM, PUBLIC COMMENTS. WAS THERE ANYBODY THAT WISHED TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THIS AGENDA? ALL RIGHT. [4. Receive report from City Manager and the Emergency Management Team regarding Winter Storm Landon.] ITEM FOUR, RECEIVE REPORT FROM CITY MANAGER AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM REGARDING WINTER STORM. LANDON, CITY MANAGER. BEVERLY, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU MAYOR, AND HOPE EVERYBODY'S DOING OKAY OUT THERE. I KNOW THE GALLERY'S NOT REAL FULL WITH, UH, THE RAIN, SO IF WE CAN'T CATCH A BREAK HERE, UH, JUST GONNA RUN THROUGH KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED, KIND OF HOW QUICKLY, UH, THE WAY THE WEEK WENT AND KIND OF WHERE WE ARE. AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE KIND OF KNOW WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST TO KIND OF RECAP EVERYTHING. SO ON MONDAY WE DID START, UH, PREPARING FOR THE FREEZING RAIN, UH, KNOWING THAT WE WERE GONNA GET PRECIPITATION, THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE THE MAIN ISSUE. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CHECKED OUR PLANS FOR THE, UH, WATER TREATMENT PLANT, SANDY CREEK, AND, UH, GOT READY FOR STANDING OPERATIONS. WE CHECKED ALL OF OUR GENERATORS, UH, ASSIGNMENT OF PERSONNEL FOR 24, UH, 24 HOUR OPERATIONS. WE GOT IN, UH, CONTACT WITH ATMOS AND AS ATMOS ENERGY ALSO, UH, AS OF COURSE GAVE THE UPDATE AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY DID, STAGING FIVE TRUCKS, UH, CURTAILING UPSTREAM CUSTOMERS AND HOW THAT REALLY WORKED A LOT BETTER THAN EVEN THE DECEMBER EVENT. UH, WE INFORMED THE PUBLIC ON THE WEATHER STATUS AND CLOSURES AND DIFFERENT PREPAREDNESS ITEMS. I DO THINK THAT THE OVERALL WANTED TO THANK STAFF AGAIN. I THINK THAT THE COMMUNICATION, UH, AT LEAST FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THAT WAS A LOT BETTER THAN PRIOR EVENTS. LIKE EACH EVENT. IT OBVIOUSLY WE LEARNED SOMETHING AND CLOSE THOSE LOOPS, SO THANK YOU TO, UH, MIKE AND, AND TY AND LINDY ON ALL OF THAT. ON THE 31ST, UH, WE PHYSICALLY OP OPENED THE E O C AND WE DID, UH, GO AHEAD AND REQUEST, UH, THAT THE MAYOR ISSUE A DISASTER DECLARATION. AND THE REASON BEING FOR THAT, AND WE WERE ONE OF THE EARLIER CITIES TO DO IT. I HATE TO POINT TO HAVING WORKED IN HURRICANES AND THINGS IN TROPICAL STORMS, BUT WHEN, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN THINGS ARE IMMINENT, THE COUNTY HAD CALLED IT, THE STATE KNEW IT WAS COMING AS WELL, AND WE KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE A DIFFERENT EVENT. UNFORTUNATELY, IT WAS THAT MUCH MORE OF A DIFFERENT EVENT IN TERMS OF BRUSH, WHICH WE'LL SEE LATER THAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD TO GO AHEAD AND CALL IT BECAUSE WE DID BELIEVE THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF EVENT TO CLEAN UP FOR. AND AS PART OF THE DISASTER PREPAREDNESS, UH, POTENTIAL EMERGENCY CONTRACTS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT COME WITH THOSE TYPE OF STORMS, WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A PRUDENT THING TO DO. UH, FOLLOWING, FOLLOWING OUR DECLARATION, SEVERAL OF THE OTHER CITIES IN OUR REGION ALSO HAD FOLLOWED SUIT. AND THEN SOME, SEVERAL DAYS LATER, PRETTY MUCH AFTER EVERYTHING STARTED FALLING, UM, WE DID DELAY OPENING OF CITY OFFICES AND TRIED TO WORK THROUGH IT. SOME FOLKS, UH, THAT COULDN'T, UH, STAYED HOME AND, AND TOOK VACATION, BUT WE, THOSE THAT COULD WORK FROM HOME, UH, CITY STAFF TRIED TO BE ALL HANDS, BOTH, EITHER PHYSICALLY HERE OR, OR FROM HOME OR IN THE FIELD IN, IN TERMS OF PUBLIC WORKS, CREWS, PD AND FIRE, AND EVERYBODY IN THE FIELD. AND THE E O C THANK, THANK YOU TO ALL OF Y'ALL AS WELL. UH, WE DID A LOT OF SANDING ON RONALD REAGAN, ESPECIALLY THOSE OVERPASSES, I BELIEVE, AT LEAST IN THE FIRST 24 HOURS, I THINK THREE TIMES EVERY THREE HOURS. YEAH, EVERY, OKAY, EVERY HOUR. THOSE WERE THE THREE HOURS, UH, OVERNIGHT THAT I'LL REMEMBER. UM, THE 180 3, A TOLL ROAD, UH, ENTRANCES HAD TO BE CLOSED. AND AS, AS MANY RESIDENTS PROBABLY KNOW IN THE, IN THAT TIMEFRAME, THERE WAS ABOUT 3000 CUSTOMERS THAT WERE AFFECTED BY P E C OUTAGES. WAS WAS THAT JUST LEANDER? UH, THAT WAS JUST LEANDER, CORRECT. AND WE HAD, WE HAD ANOTHER ISSUE, THE, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF EVERYTHING ACTUALLY RIGHT AFTER, UH, WHERE A CAR ALSO HIT A POLE. SO FOR A PERIOD WE HAD A CLOSER TO 5,000, UM, [00:05:01] KIND OF IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FREEZE, UH, ON THE FIRST WE, WE CONTINUED TO GET, OBVIOUSLY FREEZING RAIN OVER FEBRUARY 1ST. AT THAT POINT, WE DID HAVE TO CLOSE THE, UH, CITY OFFICES TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T COLLECT ANY BILLS, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WE DID HAVE STAFF HERE WORKING AND FROM HOME, UH, BOTH CAPITAL METRO AND, UM, CLAWSON. BOTH HAD TO, UH, POSTPONE THEIR SERVICES, UH, IN TERMS OF BOTH, UH, TRANSIT AND, UH, SOLID WASTE SERVICES, RESPECTIVELY. UM, PUBLIC WORKS AND L P D DID HAVE TO START RESPONDING AT THAT TIME TO THE INITIAL, UH, DOWN POWER LINES AND TREES AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WARMING CENTER, WE DID THINK INITIALLY IT WAS GONNA GET SOME USE, IT ACTUALLY DIDN'T. SO WE ENDED UP HAVING TO CLOSE IT BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE, UH, ENOUGH EXTENDED DEL UH, DOWNTIME OF, OF POWER, UH, THAT FOLKS TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT FACILITY. LUCKILY, UNLIKE, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS EXPERIENCED TO OUR SOUTH AND DOWN IN AUSTIN, NOW GET TO THURSDAY THE SECOND. THAT WAS KIND OF THE BEGINNING OF THE THAWING OUT, AND THAT'S WHEN, AND SOME OF THE DEBRIS AND TREES STARTED. YOU STARTED HEARING THE SNAPPING AND POPPING AND EVERYTHING. UH, YES. WE OPENED AT 8:00 AM LEANDER FIRE, UH, WAS CONDUCTING CHECKUPS WITH, UH, THE, THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ON THE STEER PROGRAM IN TERMS OF THOSE THAT NEED ASSISTANCE. PUBLIC WORKS BEGAN CLEARING THE ROADWAYS THAT OF DEBRIS WHERE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY TREES OVERHANGING. AND WE'VE GOT JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME PICTURES. UH, THOSE STARTED FOLLOWING, FOLLOWING AND, AND AFFECTING THE ROADWAY. AND AS WE ANTICIPATED, WHICH IS WHY WE REQUESTED THE MAYOR TO SIGN OFF ON THIS, YES, WE WERE GOING TO GET TRAFFIC SIGNAL OUTAGES LINES DOWN, AND THEN THE DEBRIS THAT'S NOW ENSUED, AND THEN JUST HERE'S SOME PICTURES. AND OF COURSE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ROBERT WILL PUT IN A FUTURE BUDGET OR SOMETHING, BUDGET FREEZE, I DON'T KNOW. UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A PRETTY PICTURE THERE. AND THEN HERE WE GO, MATURE TREES. AND THE THING I THINK TO REALLY DRIVES HOME, WE DON'T HAVE IT AS WIDESPREAD AS, UH, SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES IN OUR REGION, BECAUSE WE HAVE MANY NEW HOMES. THAT BEING SAID, ARE MORE MATURE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES. AND SO I THINK, I THINK THIS IS, UH, JUST ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT ALL SNAPPED OFF FROM WHAT I REMEMBER. ISN'T THAT CORRECT? DID THEY CUT IT? THEY END UP CUTTING IT. AND SO, BUT WE, WE HAVE EXAMPLES. MOST FOLKS, IF YOU'VE LEFT THE HOUSE LATELY, CAN PROBABLY SEE, EVEN IF YOU DON'T LIVE IN ONE OF THE, UH, OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, IF YOU'VE CUT THROUGH, UM, THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE BEGINNING OF SOME OF THE BRUSH PILES AND, YOU KNOW, TRAILERS AROUND TOWN STARTING TO PICK THINGS UP. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE PICKS WE HAVE ON THERE, MIKE. JUST ONE MORE, JUST OKAY. YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BELABOR IT. SO FRIDAY, UM, WE CONVENED STAFF WISE AND STARTED TALKING THROUGH AND ALSO WITH PAIGE WHAT OUR, UM, OPTIONS REALLY ARE. AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE, MOVE THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND THE AGENDA. BUT BOTTOM LINE, WE KNEW THAT THERE WERE GONNA BE, THERE WAS GONNA BE PROBLEMS, DIFFERENT PROBLEMS THAN THE 21 STORM OR THE MOST RECENT, UH, DECEMBER EVENT. UM, WE ARE AS PREPARED AS WE COULD HAVE BEEN. YOU KNOW, WE, CITY FACILITIES CAME THROUGH THIS PRETTY GOOD. UM, WE, WE BELIEVE THAT THE, UH, PREPAREDNESS IS, AND THE, AND THE MESSAGING IS WORKING, UH, WE THINK THAT THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT PROTECTION OF, UH, PEOPLE, PEOPLE AND PROPERTY. THAT BEING SAID, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME THINGS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION WHEN WE MOVE ON TO THE, UH, EXTENDING THE DECLARATION. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, I'LL KIND OF WALK THROUGH THAT. AND WE DO HAVE LEGAL HERE AS WELL, KIND OF THE REASONING WHY WE'RE, WE ARE REQUESTING THAT FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, ARE YOU READY FOR US TO MOVE TO ITEM FIVE THEN? YES, MA'AM. ALL [5. Discuss and consider possible action on an ordinance extending the Disaster Declaration issued by Mayor DeLisle on January 31, 2023.] RIGHT. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE EXTENDING THE DISASTER DECLARATION ISSUED BY MAYOR DELILAH ON JANUARY 31ST. 20 23, 4 GOES BACK TO YOU, MR. BELIN. OKAY, SO ONE OF THE ISSUES OBVIOUSLY, UM, WITH THE DISASTER DECLARATION IS EVEN THOUGH WE'RE MOVING INTO, YOU KNOW, THE RECOVERY PHASE, TECHNICALLY WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF CLEANUP TO DO, UH, WITH THE DISASTER DECLARATION. WE DO HAVE ALSO THE CONSIDERATION OF PROCUREMENTS FOR DOING THAT. [00:10:01] UM, THERE'S ALSO, WHEN WE GET A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN TO ITEM SEVEN, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE DOCUMENTING EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE SO FAR. UM, PUBLIC WORKS IS PREPARING FOR THE, THIS WEEKEND AND THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND OF DROP OFF OF DEBRIS. WE DO KNOW THAT A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE DEBRIS AT THEIR HOMES. SOME HAVE STARTED PUSHING THINGS DOWN TO THE STREET, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN A STANDARD SOLID WASTE RESPONSE TO DEAL WITH THIS. WE ALSO HAVE, UM, UH, CONTRACT OPTIONS WITH, UM, AUSTIN WOOD RECYCLING AND THERE, AND CLAWSON HAS ALSO PROVIDED ADDITIONAL, UM, ROLL OFFS. SO ONE OF THE REASONS WE WOULD USE THE CHIPPER, UH, WITH, UM, AUSTIN WOOD RECYCLING IS TO REDUCE THAT VOLUME DOWN AS WELL. UH, THAT BEING SAID, WE ESTIMATE THAT JUST TWO WEEKENDS IS NOT GONNA BE ENOUGH WITH THE VOLUMES THAT ARE LIKELY TO COME, UH, BECAUSE IT WASN'T THAT DISTANT OF A MEMORY. UH, WE JUST QUITE SIMPLY DIDN'T HAVE THIS MUCH DEBRIS, UH, AS WE DID IN THE 21 STORM. UM, YOU KNOW, UNLIKE THE, AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL ALSO SEE THIS WITH SOME OF, UH, OUR SISTER CITIES. YES, THEY HAVE, HAVE EITHER, UH, DONE A DECLARATION OR LOOKING AT EXTENDING. I BELIEVE THE COUNTY'S ALREADY EXTENDED THEIRS BY 30 DAYS AS WELL. AND IT'S FOR REALLY THE SAME REASON. UM, MANY OF THE CITIES HAVE STARTED LOOKING AT, UH, ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENTAL CONTRACTS UNDER EMERGENCY GUIDELINES TO MOVE THOSE FORWARD. AND THE REASON I SAY EMERGENCY, UM, OTHERWISE A STANDARD BIDDING PROCESS MIGHT MEAN 30 DAYS. WE ALSO KNOW THAT IF YOU GO THROUGH THAT, THERE'S GONNA BE A, A, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LEAD TIME FOR DEPLOYMENT AND TO MOBILIZE THOSE RESOURCES. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT WOULD BE TO AT LEAST LOOK AT EXTENDING IT UNTIL WE CAN GET THOSE CONTRACTS IN PLACE IF NECESSARY. AND SO EVEN IF IT WAS YOU WERE MOVING IT FOR NOW, YOU WENT AHEAD AND DID A 30 DAY, ONCE WE HAD THOSE ITEMS IN PLACE, I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION COULD, COULD EASILY BE LIFT THAT AFTER THEY ARE IN PLACE AND WE JUST CONTINUE DOWN THE PATH. SO WOULD A MOTION TO UM, JUST EXTEND THE DECLARATION FOR 30 DAYS SUFFICE, OR DO YOU NEED MORE? WELL, I THINK WHAT, WHAT I WOULD DO, OH, SORRY, IT'S AN ORDINANCE, SO IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE. OKAY. AND IT'S PRESENTED TO Y'ALL IN THE PACKET. SO THEN WOULD THE MOTION JUST BE TO, UM, APPROVE THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US? YES. OKAY. SO THEN I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF US. ORDINANCE NUMBER 23 DASH 11, SECOND MOTION. AND A SECOND. DO WE NEED MORE DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. [6. Discuss and consider possible action to waive permit fees and relax regulations related to disposal of storm debris.] ITEM NUMBER SIX, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION TO WAIVE PERMIT FEES AND RELAXED REGULATIONS RELATED TO DISPOSAL OF STORM DEBRIS. CITY MANAGER, BEVERLY. OKAY. UM, NEXT ITEM IS WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, MAKING THINGS EASIER IN TERMS OF DISPOSING OF THAT STORM DEBRIS SUCH AS BURN PERMITS, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. UM, I'M NOT SURE IF, UH, BILLY WANTED TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THAT IN TERMS OF RECENT DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE. AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S RAINING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, IT'S GONNA BE DAMP, SO THERE, THERE'S PROBABLY NOT MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE AFFORDING THEMSELVES OF THAT OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. YEAH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, BILLY GAU AND FIRE DEPARTMENT. UM, THE, UH, THE PERMIT FEE. SO WE DO ALLOW BURNING IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY, DEPENDING ON THE PROPERTY SIZE AND THEN ALSO THE CONDITIONS. WE DO A SITE INSPECTION TO ENSURE THEY'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE STATE LAWS REGULATING THAT. AND SO WHAT THIS WOULD BE IS JUST A WAIVER OF THE FEE, NOT ANY LESS RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT'S REQUIRED TO SAFELY BURN. SO IT, WE WOULD STILL ALLOW SAFE BURNING IN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE ALLOWED. UH, BUT WE FELT THAT THE LOSS OF REVENUE FROM THE PERMITS WOULD BE OUTWEIGHED BY THE BENEFIT OF NOT HAVING TO HAUL OFF, UH, MORE DEBRIS. SO, UH, THE OTHER PART BEING THE RELAXED, UH, REGULATIONS OR THE ENFORCEMENT OF REGULATIONS. SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CODE ENFORCEMENT ITEMS, UM, THAT WE WANT TO TAKE A LESS, UM, UH, ENFORCEMENT STANCE MORE ON JUST DUE TO THE DEBRIS AND THE CLEANUP EFFORTS. UH, SOME OF THOSE JUST BEING SOME OF THE SANITARY AND PUBLIC NUISANCE FROM THE TREES BEING IN THE YARDS OR IN THE ROADWAYS THERE RIGHT OF WAYS. UH, AND [00:15:01] GIVING THE RESIDENTS THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT PROPERLY DISPOSED OF, UM, STORAGE OF SPECIAL VEHICLES, UH, IN NEIGHBORHOODS SUCH AS THE TRAILERS THAT MAY BE NEEDED TO HAUL OFF THE DEBRIS, UM, FENCE, UH, DILAPIDATED FENCE FROM DAMAGE FROM THE DEBRIS. UH, SO JUST THINGS THAT ARE, UH, RELATED TO THE IMPACT FROM THE STORM. WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LESS, UH, ENFORCEMENT STANCE ON THAT AND JUST KIND OF MONITOR IT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP GET THEM THE RIGHT RESOURCES TO GET BACK INTO COMPLIANCE. I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THAT. UM, THIS WOULD, NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT FOR RESIDENCES, BUT WHAT ABOUT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING, CUZ THIS HAS HAPPENED AND THERE'S A POLICE REPORT ON IT NOW TOO, UM, FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S TAKING THEIR STUFF, GOING TO, LET'S SAY, A NEW COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DUMPING ALL OF THEIR THINGS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THOSE THINGS, UM, AND THERE'S PROOF OF THIS HAPPENING WITH LICENSE PLATES AND VIDEOS AND ALL THOSE THINGS TOO. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LESSENING THAT RESTRICTION THOUGH, CORRECT? YEAH. WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT, UH, LESSENING ANY RESTRICTIONS ON, ON LITTERING, LIKE DUMPING OR, OR ILLEGAL DUMPING. OKAY. UH, SO THIS IS MORE OF PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN, THAT THEY'RE JUST, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE PROTECTING OUR CITIZENS, BUT NOT PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING IRRESPONSIBLE AND CONSIDERATE THAT WAY. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO ASK. OKAY. UM, AND THEN I HEARD A STORY FROM ANOTHER CITY BECAUSE WE'RE ALL DEALING WITH THE SAME THING RIGHT NOW OF, UM, A COMPANY THAT WAS PICKING UP AND THEN SHOVING THEM DOWN THE STORM DRAIN. SO WE'RE NOT WAVING ANY OF THAT. RIGHT. THAT'S ALL STILL RIGHT. THAT WAS MY REACTION TOO. CORRECT. AND, AND WHAT IT'S HORRIFYING, OUR THOUGHT IS SIMPLY THIS, YES. GOING AFTER HIGH GRASS IF THERE'S A TREE LAYING ON IT AND A, YOU KNOW, GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO GET A CONTRACTOR OUT OR CUT IT THEMSELVES. COMMON SENSE STUFF. YEAH. BUT IN TERMS OF, UH, CONTRACTORS, I CAN SAY THIS, I'VE, I'VE BEEN IN CITIES WHERE AFTER A, A STORM CONTRACTORS FROM OTHER CITIES ARE DUMPING THINGS IN YOUR CITY. AND SO WE WILL BE ON A LOOKOUT FOR THAT AND EYES ON THE GROUND FROM OUR, UH, PARTNERS AS WELL AND OTHER CONTRACTORS THAT WORK FOR THE CITY AND CODE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE WE CAN LEAST AFFORD TO LITERALLY AFFORD TO PICK UP, UH, A WHOLE OTHER CITY'S DEBRIS AS WELL. YEAH. AND I'M HOPING MAYBE WE CAN DO SOME PUBLIC MESSAGING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DON'T DUMP THINGS AND UM, YOU KNOW, REPORT IT IF YOU SEE IT, THAT KIND OF THING. YEAH. SO IS THERE A PARTICULAR TIMEFRAME THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO RELAX THE REGULATIONS FOR? SO THAT'S GONNA DEPEND ON JUST WHAT WE SEE AS A GENERAL EFFORT ON CLEANUP. UM, IF, UH, I THINK AS WE GET INTO THE NEXT 30 DAYS, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF HOW MUCH FURTHER THIS IS GONNA EXTEND INTO. OKAY. WE'RE, WE'RE ASSUMING WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ABOUT A 90 DAY, UH, PERIOD RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, CHIEF, WHERE DO WE FIND THE AREAS THAT DO ALLOW BURNING? YEAH, SO WE, WE REQUIRE AT LEAST TWO ACRES OF LAND. UM, AND JUST A LOT OF THAT IS JUST DUE TO THE STATE LAWS THAT REGULATE IT. UH, STATE LAW DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO THE SIZE OF PROPERTY THAT YOU CAN BURN ON, BUT IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH THE NUISANCE THAT IT CAUSES NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. AND SO WE FELT THAT TWO ACRES GIVES A LITTLE BIT OF SEPARATION THERE. AND SO THAT'S BEEN THE STANCE THAT WE'VE TAKEN MM-HMM. EXACTLY. SO IS, SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A TWO ACRE PLOT, IT'S NOT CERTAIN AREAS WITHIN THE CITY, IT'S ANYWHERE THAT IS TWO ACRES OR MORE? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. IT'S, AND, AND I'M SORRY, BUT I, AND CUZ I, I'VE SEEN PEOPLE BURNING BEFORE, JUST LIKE LEAVES IN THE PAST, NOT, NOT THIS TIME, BUT, UM, SO THAT THERE IS A PERMIT REQUIRED FOR THAT. SO THERE'S A PERMIT REQUIRED FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF BURNING, AND THEN THERE'S CERTAIN TYPES OF BURNING THAT ARE CONSIDERED RECREATIONAL OR, UH, JUST WARMING FIRES, LIKE FIRE PITS, THINGS OF THAT SORT. AND SO WHAT WE DO SEE IS A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, DAMAGED PROPERTY THAT HAS SOME, JUST A COUPLE OF LIMBS THAT CAME DOWN, THEY MAY CHOOSE TO JUST CUT THAT UP AND, AND BURN IT IN A, UH, FIRE PIT OR CHINET OR EVEN USE IT FOR BARBECUE WOULD. OKAY. SO JUST A SMALL BURNING LIKE THAT IS OKAY. AND, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT NOT NOW, BUT IN GENERAL BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT A PERMIT, IT DEPENDS ON REQUIRED WHERE IT'S, HOW IT'S DONE. OKAY. UH, SO THEY CAN'T JUST BURN IT ON A SIDEWALK OR IN THE YARD, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE IN AN AREA CAN DESIGNED FOR THAT. UM, UH, THERE IS A, UH, EX, UH, DEFINITION ON THE SIZE OF IT. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE ENFORCED AND SUCH. UH, BUT YEAH, WE DO GET, UH, OFTENTIMES WILL WE GET COMPLAINTS ON US FROM OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BURNING. AND SO THAT'S HOW WE GET THE CALL IN AND THEN WE JUST CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S SAFE. AND, UH, SO IS THERE, IS THAT ON OUR WEBSITE OR WHERE DO WE, WHERE DO, WHAT IS THE, TELL PEOPLE WHERE TO FIND THAT? YEAH, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHERE THAT'S AT. I'M GUESSING IT'S ON OUR FIRE MARSHALS PAGE. OKAY. BUT, UH, WE CAN LOOK AT SEEING IF WE CAN GET THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE FRONT AND CENTER. OKAY. I THINK IT WOULD BE, WE, I MEAN I'M SURE WE WOULD ALL SHARE JUST BECAUSE THAT, THAT IS, THAT, THAT'S A TYPICAL QUESTION THAT WE WOULD BE ASKED IF, IF SOMEBODY SEES SOMEONE ELSE BURNING, WELL THEN IT MUST BE OKAY. YEAH. SO [00:20:01] WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GIVE THE PROPER MESSAGING, SO THANK YOU. OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 23 DASH ZERO 12 DASH 0 0 1 SECOND. AND IS THAT ALL WE NEED ON THIS ONE, DARA? THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. [7. Discuss and consider possible action related to procurement of services to dispose of storm debris. ] ITEM SEVEN, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO P PROCUREMENT OF SERVICES TO DISPOSE OF STORM DEBRIS. CITY MANAGER BEVERLY MAYOR, AS YOU KNOW THIS, UH, UH, THIS, THIS WEEK WE MET WITH, UH, CLAUSON DISPOSAL CURRENT SOLID WASTE CONTRACTOR. WE HAVE THEM HERE TODAY. WE'VE, UH, ASKED THEM TO GO OUT AND START TAKING A LOOK AT, UH, THE CURRENT SITUATION. UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, LEGAL HERE, DARREN'S HERE AND CAN ALSO EXPAND ON SOME OF WHAT THE ALTERNATIVES WOULD BE. BUT WE, WE ARE UNDER CONTRACT WITH CLAWSON. UM, WE DO OBVIOUSLY, EFFECTIVELY IT WORKS OUT TO BE LIKE A WRITER FIRST REFUSAL IF THEY, IF THEY CAN'T DO IT WITHIN THAT CONTRACT. AND THEN IF WE HAD TO CONSIDER SUPPLEMENTAL SERVICES, SOME OF THE THINGS SOME OF OUR, UH, PARTNER CITIES IN THE REGION ARE LOOKING AT, YES, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY CHEAP. UH, IN ADDITION TO, AND WE WOULD ALSO CONSIDER, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THIS IS NOT NORMAL OPERATIONS, WE WOULD RECEIVE A PRICE FROM CLAWSON ON WHAT THEY WOULD PROPOSE. BUT FIRST I'D KIND OF LIKE TO GET SOME INPUT FROM THEM IF POSSIBLE, ON REALLY WHAT THEY'VE SEEN THEIR CAPACITY TO ADDRESS IT. UH, EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE A HARD PROPOSAL UNTIL MAYBE LATER THIS WEEK, EVEN IF, IF POSSIBLE IN A PERFECT WORLD, WE'D BRING IT BACK TO YOU. UM, IF WE HAD AN ANSWER EVEN BY I THINK FRIDAY, WE COULD HAVE IT ON FOR YOUR NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL. THANK YOU. SO I DON'T KNOW IF TANYA OR TROY, UM, IF THEY CAN SPEAK TO IT. IS THIS YOUR ? WHAT'S THE FIRST ONE? MS. CLAUSON, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE YOU FORWARD. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AND PROPOSE SOME OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN. UM, JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER. UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY ON THE DELAYED SCHEDULE, UM, GOING TWO DAYS WITHOUT SERVICE AND THEN WE CLOSED OUR SATURDAY BY COLLECTING ALL OF THURSDAY AND WE STARTED OUR MONDAY COLLECTING FRIDAY. SO THAT WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. AND ON SATURDAY WE'LL HAVE THE CITY ON TRACK WITH ALL SERVICES MET. IF YOU HEAR ANY GRUMBLINGS, I'LL APOLOGIZE, UM, IN ADVANCE. UM, THINK ABOUT IT. I'M RUNNING EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT I HAVE. SURE, THERE MAY BE A NEW DRIVER WHO'S PROVIDED A MAP WHO DOESN'T SEE A COVE. AND, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE IS SENDING THE CREW BACK THE NEXT DAY. SO WE'RE STILL RESOLVING JUST NOT IN, IN THE MOST TIMELY MANNER. AND YOU'LL HEAR A LOT OF THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY DISGRUNTLED WITH THE BRUSH AND THEN THEY'RE DISGRUNTLED WITH THE DEBRIS. AND THEN WE POTENTIALLY HAVE MADE A MISTAKE, BUT WE'RE BEING VERY PROACTIVE. UM, I KNOW WE MISSED A SECTION OF RECYCLE. I WAS HERE ASSESSING YOUR CITY TODAY AND I WAS WATCHING THEM CORRECT THAT MISTAKE WHEN I WAS IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD THEY WERE. AND I THOUGHT MY CREW AND THANKED THEM FOR BEING PROACTIVE TO THE MISTAKE. SO THAT'S JUST A REMINDER THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE WITH THAT SCHEDULE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK AND ADDING THOSE ADDITIONAL TEAMS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE SERVICE THAT'S NEEDED TO GET IT CAUGHT UP. UM, ANOTHER ONE THAT I THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW, AND THIS WAS ME DRIVING THROUGH CART PLACEMENT. THINK ABOUT THAT. IF YOU'VE GOT THE LIMBS AT THE CURB AND THE CARTS AT THE CURB, THERE WAS AN AREA OF RECYCLE WE COULDN'T PROVIDE SERVICE TO BECAUSE IT WAS A A COVE AND YOU HAD ALL THE DOWN LIMBS, THEN YOU HAD TRAILERS THERE, WE COULDN'T GET OUR EQUIPMENT THROUGH IT. SO SOME CONSIDERATIONS THERE, IF YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT THAT, IS THE ACCESSIBILITY OF OF THE CARTS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COME THROUGH AND PROVIDE CLEAN SERVICE. AND I SAW SOME OF THOSE LOCATIONS TODAY AS I WAS GOING THROUGH YOUR CITY. AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A RECAPTURE, WE CURRENTLY RUN ABOUT 40 ROUTES IN THE CITY OF LEANDER RESIDENTIAL ROUTES. AND, UH, THOSE ROUTES COVER APPROXIMATELY 23,500 HOMES. UM, WE ARE CONTINUING TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS TO DISPOSE OF THEIR BRUSH FROM THE WINTER STORM. AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE CROSS EFFORTS ON THE CLEANUPS THAT ARE COMING FORTH ON THE 11TH AND THE 18TH. I CAN CONFIRM THOSE FOUR ADDITIONAL BOXES WERE DELIVERED TODAY IN PREPARATION FOR THAT. ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE AT LEAST EXCHANGING OUT TWO PER DAY MOVING FORWARD. SO ALL THAT HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE AS WE DISCUSSED IT YESTERDAY BY CLOSING TODAY. TODAY THAT HAS BEEN DONE. UM, TODAY I SPENT ABOUT SIX HOURS DRIVING YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I THINK I DID PROBABLY, PROBABLY MORE THAN 25 MILES, BUT I WAS TRYING TO GET A PRETTY GOOD GUESSTIMATE GOING DOWN THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. AND I WANTED TO SAY, HOW DO I COMMUNICATE THAT BACK TO YOU? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO ME AND WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO YOU? SO HERE'S WHAT I CAME UP WITH. I'M GONNA CALL IT ASSESSMENT LEVEL ONE, TWO, AND THREE. [00:25:01] UM, THESE NEXT SLIDES THAT I'M GONNA SHOW YOU ARE ACTUAL PICTURES FROM THE AREAS IN INSIDE THE CITY OF LEANDER. AND THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED TO SHOW YOU HOW WE'RE IDENTIFYING THE ASSESSMENT LEVELS AND VARIOUS NEEDS. THEY'RE NOT THE GREATEST PHOTOS. WE HAD SOME RAIN TODAY, BUT I THINK IT'LL GIVE YOU A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF HOW I'M GOING TO IDENTIFY EACH LOCATION. UM, THIS IS WHAT I'M CALLING LEVEL ONE. IT'S MINIMAL LIMBS AT THE CURB, MINIMAL LIMBS THAT I'M SEEING IN THE YARD. THEY DON'T HAVE A BIG BASE IN THE DIAMETER OF IT, AND I SAW A LOT OF THAT IN AREAS OF MESA GRANDE, CONLEY'S CROSSING, CRYSTAL SPRINGS, HERS RANCH AND HAZELWOOD. JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEAS OF WHERE I'M SEEING WHAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY A LEVEL ONE AND THEN PROGRESSING FROM THERE. THIS IS LEVEL TWO. LEVEL TWO IS AREAS OF COLD SPRINGS, TIMBERLINE, MASON RANCH, WESTWOOD HIGHLANDS AT CRYSTAL FALLS. THOSE BASELINES GET A LITTLE LARGER AND THE PILES GET BIGGER. AND THE LEVEL ONE AND TWO IS SOMETHING I'M LOOKING AT, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY. UM, IF, IF THIS PROCEEDS FORWARD, WE WOULD MOST LIKELY START IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, WHERE WE COULD FINISH MORE EFFICIENTLY BEFORE WE MOVED ON TO THE LARGER NEEDS. UM, LEVEL THREE IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA SEE SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE. UM, I'M SEEING THAT IN GRAND MESA, MASON CREEK, FALCON OAKS, OAK RIDGE, AND COUNTY GLEN. AND WE SEE SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. FROM WHAT I EXPLORED TODAY. UM, FOR THE CURRENT, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO PICK UP ONE BUNDLE PER WEEK PER RESIDENT. SO I DO APPRECIATE THE, UM, THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. THERE'S NO WAY I CAN DO FIVE BUNDLES PER HOUSEHOLD RIGHT NOW WITH THE VOLUME WE'RE SEEING. EVEN DOING THE, THE ONE I'VE HAD TO SEND ADDITIONAL TRUCKS FOR US TO MEET THE CRITERIA OF THEIR BALLOTS, PLUS BEING A DAY BEHIND SCHEDULE, HAVE AN EXTRA DAY OF TRASH PLUS A BUNDLE. SO IT DOES TEND TO FILL THE TRUCKS FASTER THAN ONE WOULD ANTICIPATE. AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, TO COMMUNICATE AND PROMOTE THE CITY OF LAND BRUSH DROP OFF ON FEBRUARY 11TH AND 18TH. AND I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REEVALUATE ON FEBRUARY THE 20TH. THAT'S WHEN THOSE EVENTS CLOSE. AND THEN I CAN TAKE A LOOK AGAIN AND I WANNA CREATE A SCHEDULE FOR EACH NEIGHBORHOOD BASED ON THOSE EVALUATIONS. I'LL DEDICATE TRUCKS AND CREWS FOR LEVEL ONE IN LEVEL TWO AREAS WHILE SECURING ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT FOR LEVEL THREE AREAS. I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN REMOVAL ON FEBRUARY 27TH AND COMPLETE THAT REMOVAL WITHIN 60 TO 90 DAYS OF US STARTING. UM, ONCE I GET THAT DATA BACK. AND THE REASON I'M LOOKING FOR THAT BUFFER OF TIME IS I WANT TO, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH OUR RECYCLE SCHEDULE, I WANT TO PRESENT YOU A SCHEDULE ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE BY NEIGHBORHOOD TO REMOVE SO THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE THAT COMPONENT OF COMMUNICATION OF WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT. AND WHEN, UM, THE ONLY THING THAT I WILL ASK IS IT CAN BE COMPLICATED, AS YOU SAID BEFORE, YOU HAVE CROSSED PEOPLE BRINGING STUFF IN. I DON'T NEED A CONTRACTOR HAULING IT BACK TO SOMEONE'S HOME AND THEN GIVING IT TO ME AT CURBSIDE BECAUSE THEY SAW MY SCHEDULE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN PROPOSE THAT THIS COMMUNICATION BE EMAILED TO THE RESIDENTS AND TO FIND A WAY TO TAKE CAUTION TO THAT. BECAUSE ONCE I IDENTIFY ON ONE DAY AND COME BACK TO PREPARE, I COULD SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE THAN WHAT I HAD PLANNED FOR. UM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU SEE A MATURE TREE IN A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M, I'M GOING TO KNOW THAT THAT DIDN'T COME FROM THERE. YEAH. SO, UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO AN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, GIVING US THE CONSIDERATION AND OPPORTUNITY TO BRING RESOLVE, UH, TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING. AND THEN LIKEWISE, I HAVE, UH, AS BEING FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED, I HAVE TROY HERE WHO CAN SPEAK BRIEFLY WITH YOU ON WHAT HE'S DOING AND HOW WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO BRING RESOLVE. SURE. MR. CLAUSON, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU MARY. THANK YOU. COUNSEL. UH, SEEMS, UH, PUBLIC WORKS WAS OUT TODAY. THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB TODAY. UH, THEY WERE WORKING HARD ON ALL YOUR, UH, MAIN ROADS, UH, EVERYWHERE THAT WE WENT. THEY WERE THERE. SO, UH, KUDOS TO THEM. UM, CITIZENS HERE IN LEANDER, IF YOU'RE HIRING SOMEBODY TO CUT YOUR TREES, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU MAKE SURE YOU'RE HIRING A REPUTABLE COMPANY. OKAY? SOMEBODY'S NOT GONNA TAKE IT TO THE GUY NEXT DOOR AND DUMP IT OFF. UM, MAKE SURE YOU ASK THAT QUESTION. WHERE DO YOU DUMP THIS STUFF? DO YOU TAKE IT TO THE LANDFILL? ARE YOU TAKING IT TO, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, BRUSH PLACES IN THE AREA? AND, AND SEE HOW THEY ANSWER THAT QUESTION AND MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THEY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED IT IN THE STORM DRAINS. . ALL RIGHT. SO THAT, UH, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE RESILIENT. UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ALREADY DIGGING OUT. I SEE PEOPLE WORKING IN THEIR YARDS AND STUFF AND CLEANING UP. UM, WE NEED TO GET AS MUCH OF IT, UH, CITIZENS. WE NEED TO GET AS MUCH OF IT INTO THE, INTO THE YARD AS POSSIBLE SO WE CAN GET IT HAULED OFF. UH, THESE BIGGER PILES. UM, I'VE GOT COMMUNICATIONS AND FEELERS OUT, UM, EVERY DIRECTION TRYING TO FIND GRAPPLE WITH TYPE OF EQUIPMENT TO HELP PICK UP THESE BIGGER PILES. UH, THIS IS NOT A TRUCK THAT, THAT IS COMMON, UH, FOR THIS AREA. UM, HAD [00:30:01] SOME SOME GOOD FEEDBACK. UM, ALSO TALKING WITH A MAN RIGHT NOW THAT, THAT OWNS A GRINDER, UM, THAT POSSIBLY COULD COME TO THE CITY YARD AND SET UP AND GRIND EVERYTHING RIGHT HERE TO, TO MOVE SOME OF THAT STUFF DOWN. UH, HE MOVES, BUT THE PROBLEM IS HE MOVES, UH, IN EIGHT HOURS, 10 HOURS A DAY, HE CAN MOVE A PILE OF THE SIZE OF THIS BUILDING. HE, HE CAN GRIND. SO WE NEED TO HAVE AS MUCH THERE AS POSSIBLE TO MAXIMIZE OUR MONEY CUZ HE'S VERY EXPENSIVE, UH, TO MOVE ALL THAT EQUIPMENT HERE AND TO, AND TO DO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. WE'LL GET, UH, MORE INTO THAT ON MONDAY WHEN WE, UH, GET SOME OF THESE NUMBERS BACK POSSIBLY FRIDAY. SO, UM, WE'RE WORKING, UM, UH, CITIZENS GET OUT THERE AND, AND, AND DO YOUR PART, UH, DO YOUR PART FIRST AND, UM, AND THEN LET'S, UH, LET'S HELP OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS THAT, THAT, THAT NEED HELP OUR NEIGHBORS THAT MAYBE DON'T HAVE A PICKUP, THAT MAYBE DON'T HAVE A TRAILER. AND LET'S HELP GET IT OVER THERE TO THE CITY YARD SO WE CAN GET YOU HAULED OFF. UH, I'LL BE CLOSELY, UH, MY, UH, DIRECTOR FOR ROLL OFF WILL BE CLOSELY WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND WE'VE GOT AS MANY BOXES THAT HE NEEDS AND HE CAN FILL AND TRY TO GET 'EM OUTTA HERE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. UM, I TALKED TO A GUY IN INSURANCE AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN OVER HERE INTO THIS AREA FOR THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY TO ASSESS DAMAGE YET. UH, CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DAMAGE, UH, IN OTHER AREAS SO WE DON'T WANNA MOVE TOO QUICKLY. UM, CUZ WE MAY MISS SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE WAITING ON ADJUSTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE BROKEN WINDSHIELDS WHERE TREES FELL INTO CARS AND, UH, THERE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE IT WAS, BUT THERE'S A PICKUP TIED TO A ROPE, TIED TO A TREE HOLDING IT ABOVE THE HOUSE SOMEWHERE TODAY . SO, AND I GUESS THEY'RE WAITING ON, UH, THE INSURANCE COMPANY. SO, UH, ALSO IT'S FEBRUARY, THIS IS THE WORST MONTH FOR WEATHER IN OUR, IN OUR AREA. SO WE COULD SEE ANOTHER ICE EVENT. WE COULD SEE ANOTHER, UH, UH, POTENTIAL WIND EVENT THAT WOULD KNOCK SOME OF THESE BROKEN TREES OUT OF THE TREES. SO I KNOW WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT WANNA MOVE QUICKLY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE DON'T WANNA DO IT TWICE. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A VERY STRATEGIC APPROACH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE RAIN EVENTS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE POTENTIALLY MORE ICE EVENTS. AND, UM, IT'S FOLKS, IT'S JUST NOT GONNA BE A EASY IN AND OUT GET IT DONE. IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A 90, 120 DAY MAYBE. UH, I WAS LOOKING AT THE, UH, I WAS DOING MATH IN MY HEAD A WHILE AGO. UM, IF WE GO BY EVERYBODY'S HOUSE, UM, WE NEED TO GO, IF WE WENT BY 88 HOMES A DAY, IT WOULD BASICALLY TAKE US ALMOST A YEAR. WOW. SO AT, AT 90 DAYS WE NEED TO CLEAR, UM, 276 THINKS THE NUMBER, UH, NO, SORRY, 3 52. UM, SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT WHEN YOU HAVE PILES LIKE THE, THE LEVEL THREE PILES. YEAH. SO THERE'S NO WAY WE THAT ANYONE, UH, PILES LIKE THAT. WE'RE GONNA BE LUCKY TO, UH, A GRAPPLE TRUCK. THE GUYS ARE TELLING ME MAYBE 12 HOMES A DAY, UH, FOR THOSE LARGE PILES LIKE THAT. SO IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE SIGNIFICANT. UM, BUT I THINK IF WE CAN GET OUR NEIGHBORS INVOLVED AND, AND DO ALL THEY CAN AND THEN, UH, WE COME BEHIND THEM AND DO ALL WE CAN, I THINK, UH, I THINK WE CAN BE OUT OF THIS, UH, AND BACK TO NORMAL IN THE NEXT 90 DAYS OR SO. A HUNDRED DAYS. SO HOW LONG HAVE Y'ALL BEEN IN BUSINESS? SO 40TH ANNIVERSARY. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN ALL YOUR YEARS? NEVER. YEAH, NEVER IN 40 YEARS. UM, TO SEE A NICE EVENT QUITE LIKE THIS, I, I HAVE 25 YEAR OLD OAK TREES THAT I PLANTED AND I AM SADDENED, UH, BECAUSE THE TOPS ARE BROKE OUT OF EVERY ONE OF THEM. MM-HMM. , I WAS OUT THERE DURING THE STORM AND THEY STARTED CRACKING AND I TOOK EVERY TWO BEFORE I HAD AND I WAS DRIVING THEM IN THE GROUND AND PROPPING LIMBS UP TO HOLD THESE TREES UP IN MY FRONT YARD. AND, UH, DOING EVERYTHING I COULD TO SAVE 'EM, SAVED A LOT OF LIMBS. UH, WISH I WOULD'VE HAD MORE SCRAP WOOD LAYING AROUND THE HOUSE. PROBABLY NOT A GOOD THING. UH, PROBABLY, PROBABLY AGAINST SOME ORDINANCE SOMEWHERE, COUNCIL WAL . SO, UH, I KEEP IT HID BEHIND THE GARAGE. BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO DO. IT STILL BROKE, IT BROKE THE TOPS OUTTA EVERY ONE OF MY TREES. AND SO THE TIME I GET A, AN ARBORIST IN THERE, UH, CUZ I GOT A, I GOT A TREE FOR EVERY CHILD, UH, THAT I HAVE. AND SO, AND THE OLDEST ONE'S 25 YEARS OLD. SO, [00:35:01] UH, THOSE TREES ARE VERY SPECIAL TO ME AND THAT'S WHERE I PLAN ON, ON SPINNING THE REST OF MY DAYS AND, AND TAKING CARE OF THOSE TREES. SO I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST SO DEVASTATED RIGHT NOW, LIKE ME, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YEAH. SO IT'S GONNA TAKE THEM A MINUTE TO KIND OF COME TO GRIPS WITH IT THAT I MAY HAVE TO TAKE OUT THIS TREE THAT'S BEEN IN MY YARD MY WHOLE LIFE. YEAH. UH, MY FATHER-IN-LAW'S GOING THROUGH THAT, HE'S GOT A 60 YEAR OLD PEON TREE THAT FELL THROUGH HIS ROOF. I SPENT FOUR HOURS MYSELF ON HIS ROOF TAKING THAT TREE OFF OF HIS ROOF AND PATCHING THE HOLES IN THE ROOF SO A WE CAN AWAY FROM THE INSURANCE PEOPLE. AND UM, HE'S GONNA HAVE TO LET THAT TREE GO. AND HE'S, UH, 82 AND THAT'S, UH, HE'S LIVED RIGHT THERE IN THAT HOUSE HIS WHOLE LIFE. SO. WOW. THAT'S A TOUGH ONE FOR HIM. SO, UH, PEOPLE, IF YOU'RE HEARING PEOPLE YELLING, HOLLERING, THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST, UH, IT'S JUST CUZ THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AND IT'S A SITUATION THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY'D PROBABLY NEVER HAD TO DEAL WITH. SO, UM, GIVE THOSE PEOPLE SOME GRACE, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE YELLING, IT'S NOT AS BAD AS YOU THINK IT IS. WE HAVE POWER, WE HAVE PLACE TO STAY. UH, BEING THROUGH AN F FIVE TORNADO, I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE NOT TO HAVE A HOME, NOT TO HAVE CLOTHES TO CHANGE INTO, UH, NOT TO HAVE A CAR JUST TO GET TO YOUR NEIGHBOR. YEAH. UH, CUZ IT WAS ALL DESTROYED. SO WE'RE VERY BLESSED HERE. YES. AND WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT MOVING FORWARD. SO, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA GET SOME OF THESE, UH, THESE, UH, NUMBERS BACK, UH, THIS WEEK. AND UH, WE'LL MOVE AS SWIFTLY AS WE CAN THROUGH THE AREAS. AND AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LOVE TO DO IT QUICKLY, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT. AND YOU HIT ON SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN GIVING ME ANXIETY THROUGH ALL OF THIS, WHICH IS THE TIMING THAT THIS IS STILL EARLY IN FEBRUARY AND WHEN WE COMPARE THIS TO WINTER STORM URI, THAT WAS AFTER VALENTINE'S DAY, THAT WAS THE LATTER HALF OF THE MONTH. AND SO I DO HAVE SOME ANXIETY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TWO WEEKS IN AND THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER EVENT. UM, SO I'VE SEEN SNOW ON, DOESN'T MIND. YEAH. SO YOU HAVE TO UH, YEAH. UH, MY FATHER-IN-LAW IS, UH, HE'S PLANTED THE SAME PIECE OF DIRT. THIS IS HIS 69TH CROP ON THE SAME PIECE OF DIRT. AND HE WILL NOT BE PLANTING EARLY THIS YEAR BECAUSE HE'S EXPECTING A LATE FREEZE. UH, UH, I TAKE HIS WORD OVER ANY METEOROLOGIST IN THE AREA. UH, CUZ HE, HE HAS DATA FROM, HE'S KEPT RECORDS ON HIS FAMILY FARM SINCE 1950, EVERY RAINDROP THAT'S EVER HIT. SO, UH, IF HE SAYS THERE'S GONNA BE A LATE FREEZE, I BELIEVE IT. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER. THANK YOU. YEP. COUNSEL, QUESTIONS. WHERE IS THE CITY YARD? WHERE IS THE CITY YARD REFERRING TO? THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, FACILITY OFF MUNICIPAL. SO THAT'S WHERE HOMEOWNERS WOULD, IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE TAKING UM, DEBRIS, THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD TAKE IT. AND THAT'S WHERE THE WOOD CHIPPER WILL BE OR THE WELL THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY CHIPPING THERE. THAT'S WHERE WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UM, ROLL OFF STAGED. AND THAT IS ON MUNICIPAL. THERE'S TWO EVENTS, ONE ON THE 11TH AND ONE ON THE 18TH OPEN FOR RESIDENTS TO BRING THEIR DEBRIS THERE. OKAY. AND THAT WE'VE, WE, WE DO HAVE INFORMATION ON. UM, SO IF, IF HOMEOWNERS ARE, ARE PAYING SOMEONE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE TAKING IT TO THE RIGHT PLACE. IS THAT, CAN WE DO THAT AS WELL? I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY'S HAULING ON, HAULING IT OFF FOR YOU, THAT THAT'S, AND, AND THAT BILL YOU OPEN UP, UH, IT'S JUST OPEN TO ANYBODY. LET ME PUT ON MY MAYOR'S HAT FOR A SECOND. MM-HMM. BEING A FORMER MAYOR, UM, YOU WOULD NEED TO CHECK AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE CAME FROM YOUR COMMUNITY. MM-HMM. , UH, THERE WOULD'VE TO BE SOME KIND OF A CHECK SYSTEM IN PLACE. CAUSE YOU WOULD'VE, PEOPLE PROBABLY COMING FROM OUTSIDE YOUR CURRENT, YOUR CURRENT PROMOTION IS ASKING THAT THEY SHOW PROOF OF RESIDENCY. OKAY. SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF REQUIREMENT FOR THOSE VENDORS TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND ACCESS IS TO SHOW THAT PROOF OF RESIDENCY ON WHERE THAT DEBRIS CAN. SO VENDORS THAT DON'T LIVE HERE THAT ARE HELPING HOMEOWNERS WOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS. IT. IT MAY BE COMPLICATED, I THINK. AND SOMETIMES WHEN THE FEE IS PAID DISPOSAL IS OFTENTIMES INCLUDED. THAT SHOULD BE A QUESTION WHEN THEY BRING IT IN. IS WHAT I'M PAYING YOU IS THAT INCLUDING PROPER DISPOSAL, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER, WHERE ARE YOU GOING WITH MY PRODUCT? RIGHT. AND THAT, THAT'S WHERE I'M, I'M, I MEAN, I, I EXPECT WE WE WILL HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, I MEAN, LOGICALLY IT SEEMS THAT IF IT'S BELONGS TO THE A HOMEOWNER IN LEANDER, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO'S TAKING IT. THAT YEAH. MR. GRAHAM'S YEAH. PUBLIC WORKS DOES NOT TAKE ANY COMMERCIAL. THANK YOU. DEBRIS. THANK YOU. THEY CAN TAKE IT TO THE LANDFILL. YEAH. UM, THEY'RE GONNA GET PAID BY THE HOMEOWNER TO HAUL IT OFF, TAKE IT TO LANDFILL. WE'RE DOING A COURTESY FOR FEE RESIDENTS. SO THE RESIDENTS WHO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO BRING UP THE PUBLIC WORKS IS FOR, IS FOR THEM. UM, CONTRACTORS HAVE A [00:40:01] CAPABILITY AND, AND RILEY SO TAKE IT TO THE LANDFILL. BUT THOSE ARE RESIDENTS THAT ARE MAKING ARRANGEMENTS TO TAKE IT TO PUBLIC WORKS. THEN THEY NEED TO BRING IT THEMSELVES AND SHOW THEIR ID AND AND SHOW AGAIN, IF THEY'RE HIRING SOMEBODY, THEY'RE NOT THE ELDERLY THAT CANNOT DO THAT AND THEY'RE HIRING SOMEONE OR DISABLED OR WHATEVER. THEY'RE HIRING SOMEONE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. AND THEY CANNOT DO THAT BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN YOU PAY FOR THAT WOOD SERVICE, YOU'RE PAYING THAT CONTRACTOR. THEY, YOU'RE THE CONTRACTOR THAT THE TREE SERVICE ALREADY HAS THEIR OWN ARRANGEMENTS. OKAY. THEY DON'T NEED TO TAKE IT. SO THAT'S, SO IF THEY'RE PAYING SOMEBODY TO DO IT, THEY'RE, THAT'S, THAT'S DONE, THAT'S PART OF THE SERVICE. RIGHT. THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE IT TO THE LANDFILL. SO THEY'RE PAYING FOR ALL OF THAT. IF WE LET 'EM COME TO PUBLIC WORKS, THEN THEY'RE GETTING THAT, THAT OUT EASY BECAUSE NOW WE'RE MOVING IT TWICE. THEY'RE GONNA BRING IT TO US AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE IT TO THE LANDFILL. I'M GONNA RECOGNIZE IT. I THOUGHT IT WAS CHIPPED. I THOUGHT IT WAS THAT. I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE GOES THROUGH THE WOOD CHIPPER. NOT IN A LANDFILL, I GUESS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO THE TRASH TANYA'S THE TRASH EXPERT. . OKAY. SO TIME OUT. SO THEY CAN TAKE IT TO AUSTIN WOOD RECYCLING, WHICH WOULD DO THAT. BUT, UM, I'M GONNA RECOGNIZE MR. BEVERLY CUZ HE HAS SOMETHING TO SAY HERE. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, AND I, I HATE TO QUOTE DAN, BUT SOMETIMES I DO, HE USES HIS COMMENT AND IT IS APPLICABLE AND YES, HE AND I WERE BOTH IN DIFFERENT, UH, UH, HUR HURRICANE ZONE, HIM CORPUS ME, GALVESTON COUNTY. AND THIS THIS NOTION OF YOU CAN HAVE IT FAST, YOU CAN HAVE IT CHEAP. UH, AND WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE, DAN? HE'S NOT PAYING ATTENTION. YOU CAN HAVE IT FAST AND YOU CAN HAVE IT CHEAP AND WHAT'S THE OTHER CHEAP AND GOOD, GOOD QUALITY. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S CHEAP AND GOOD AND SO OH YEAH. AND PERFECT. NOW THE ONE THING IS WITH THE, WITH STORM DEBRIS IS THAT, AND, AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ANXIETY, THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THIS BEFORE. THOSE WITH THE MEANS TO GET IT DONE SOONER, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO DO IT IF YOU, IF IT'S REALLY BOTHERING YOU AND YOU HAVE THE MEANS AND THAT, SO YES. UH, THE SECOND PIECE IS IF YOU ARE USING CONTRACTORS, MAKE SURE THEY'RE BONDED AND REPUTABLE AND IT'S INCLUDED IN THAT TO TAKE IT TO THE LANDFILL. MM-HMM. , THE CITY WILL TRY TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE OTHER TWO EVENTS. IF FOLKS CAN BRING THEIR DEBRIS THAT CAN BE BROUGHT. DEFINITELY WE ARE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE ENGAGING, UH, CLAWSON IN THIS DISCUSSION. AND IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENTAL RESOURCES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE'RE TRYING TO BE OUT AHEAD OF THIS. YES. IT TAKES MONTHS TYPICALLY TO DO THIS. COULD YOU DO IT UH, FASTER? YES. AGAIN, IT WOULD NOT BE CHEAP AND IT MIGHT NOT BE PERFECT TOO. SO THERE, THERE'S, YOU CAN DO ANYTHING FOR THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT IN ALMOST EVERY CASE THAT I'VE SEEN THAT DAN'S SEEN AND OTHERS HAVE DEALT WITH THIS BEFORE, IT'S A BALANCE. AND WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITIZENS FIRST AND THEN IF THE CITIZENS THAT DO HAVE THE MEANS CAN PAY CONTRACTORS, BECAUSE SOME OF IT IS GOING TO BE DEFINITELY PRIVATE PROPERTY RELATED, LET'S, LET'S JUST FACE IT. RIGHT. AND, AND AS THEY'VE ALSO, UH, PRESENTED, YOU GET TO THE LEVEL THREE ITEMS AND IF YOU WANT THAT TO MOVE FASTER, LET'S SAY IT'S AN ANCIENT OAK TREE, THEN THAT'LL BE THE LAST THING THEY WOULD GET TO IF WE MOVE FORWARD UNDER, UNDER THEIR CURRENT PROPOSAL. YEAH. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO ADDRESS WHAT'S A, A BIG MISPERCEPTION IS THAT WE DON'T GET THE MONEY ON THE FRONT END TO PAY FOR THIS. IT'S NOT LIKE SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, COVID RELIEF STUFF THAT WE'VE SEEN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WE HAVE TO FRONT ALL OF THIS MONEY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET REIMBURSED EVERYTHING. AND WHAT WE DO GET REIMBURSED IS GOING TO BE LIKE A YEAR AND A HALF TO TWO YEARS OUT. UM, AND SO AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST HIRE THE TRUCKS WITH THE ARMS TO COME TO EVERY SINGLE HOUSE AND DO IT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, THIS MONTH, UM, IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REALLY AFFORD BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT OUR NEXT BUDGET YEAR AND GOING INTO IT STILL HAVING THIS EXPENSE HANGING OUT THERE AND MAY WAIT IF I MAY, TO, TO PUT YOUR MIND AT EASE. YES. WE DO TAKE THINGS TO LANDFILL. WE ALSO WORK WITH AUSTIN WOOD AND TAKE THINGS THERE AS WELL. UM, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE BEST PRODUCT. UM, SO WILL IT ALL GO AND, AND BRUSH THAT GOES INTO WILL COAT DOES NOT GO INTO THE, INTO THE ACTUAL GROUND THAT IS CHIPPED AS WELL AND THEY BRING BIG TRUCKS IN AND THEY CHIP AND THE MULCH THERE AT THE, AT THE FACILITY AS WELL. SO A LOT OF THIS STUFF WILL BE TURNED INTO MULCH. UH, WILL EVERY BIT OF IT KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT, UH, THAT PRIVACY FENCE THAT'S IN THAT PILE THAT CAN'T GO THROUGH THE MACHINE BECAUSE IT'S GOT NAILS AND SCREWS AND STUFF IN IT. SO THAT LOAD WILL GET CONTAMINATED AND IT, IT'S [00:45:01] PROBABLY GONNA REACH THE, THE HOLE, BUT MOST OF IT'S GONNA GET RECYCLED. OBVIOUSLY THE CLOSER WE GET TO LEANDER AND THE TURNAROUND TEMPS ARE QUICKER FOR THE TRUCK, THE QUICKER WE CAN GO. SO EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE HIGHER TO GO RIGHT DOWN HERE DOWN THE STREET, UM, CUZ THERE IS A FACILITY HERE ON, UH, 2243 THAT TONY'S REACHED OUT TO THAT WE'RE WAITING ON A, A BID FROM. UM, IF THEY CAN TAKE IT, THAT CAN, THAT CAN SPEED THIS UP A LOT QUICKER. AND UH, BUT IT MAY BE MORE EXPENSIVE. SO AGAIN, WE, WE GOTTA WEIGH OUR ODDS AND SEE HOW, WHAT WE CAN GET AND HOW FAST WE CAN GO. COUNSEL, WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST HAD A COMMENT. THE, UM, LEANDER CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ON THEIR, UM, BLOG IN THEIR WEBSITE THEY HAVE LISTED SOME REPUTABLE, UM, TREE SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT IF YOU WANT TO REFER OUT THERE TO THEM. AND I WAS GONNA ASK YOU, MAYOR, IF, UM, NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I WAS THINKING ABOUT YOUR BEAUTIFICATION MM-HMM. COMMITTEE, IF THERE, I WAS THINK OR, OR WHERE THERE WAS A PLACE TO PULL, WHETHER IT'S SCOUT TROOPS OR CHURCH GROUPS THAT CAN HELP WITH SOME OF THE ELDERLY AND DISABLED THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP WITH JUST SOME GENERAL YARD CLEANUP THAT A GREAT PLACE FOR WHEREVER THOSE RESOURCES COULD BE ACCESSED. SO WE HAD JUST THAT DISCUSSION THIS MORNING AND, UM, WHAT STAFF WOULD LIKE TO DO IS COORDINATE THOSE RESPONSES THROUGH AUSTIN DISASTER RECOVERY NETWORK, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THEY DO. UM, AND THEY VET THEIR VOLUNTEERS AND THEY DO ALL THE LOGISTICS. UM, SORRY, MR. NEWUM, DID YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT OR DID I HIT IT? ALL RIGHT. . UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE OUR GUIDANCE. OKAY. UM, TO ALL OF THOSE VOLUNTEERS OUT THERE THAT WANNA BE INVOLVED, WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO ALSO REGISTER WITH AUSTIN DISASTER VOLUNTEERS. SO DISASTER RELIEF NETWORK. UH, ANY OTHER COUNSEL? QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? OKAY, WE'RE NOT TAKING ACTION. WE'RE GONNA GET MORE INFORMATION AS THE WEEK PROGRESSES, RIGHT. LIKE YOU SAID FRIDAY, MAYBE MONDAY WE'LL GET MORE INFORMATION. CORRECT. AND UH, IF WE, IF WE ALSO NEED TO BRING SOME OTHER, UH, PRICING AND WE, WE HAVE STARTED LOOKING AT, AT OTHER PRICING ALTERNATIVES AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR COMPANION CITIES AROUND HERE ARE LOOKING AT THEM OR CONSIDERING 'EM AS WELL, DIFFERENT ONES AND NO, THEY'RE NOT CHEAP. AND IT ALSO, NO, THE OTHER THING TO REMEMBER, AND I THINK THE MAYOR KIND OF MENTIONED THIS AND I THINK TROY AND TANYA HAVE MENTIONED THIS, IS IF YOU DO IT TOO FAST, THEN FOLKS DON'T GET ENOUGH TIME TO GET IT OUT. SO THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A PERFECT TIME TO DO IT AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN UNLESS YOU PLAN TO BE BACK IN THE SAME PLACE LATER. SO IT TO DO IT RIGHT, YES. YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING DRAGGING THIS OUT. UH, WE'RE NOT SITTING ON OUR, OUR HANDS ON THIS. UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN NOTHING THAT'S OUT THERE. AND IF Y'ALL REMEMBER, I THINK WITH THE 21 STORM WE HAD STUFF, UH, STILL BEING, UH, WOOD CHIPPED AND EVERYTHING, WHAT, THREE MONTHS PASSED? THREE, THREE OR FOUR MONTHS PAST THE 21 STORE. YEAH. UM, MS. CLAUSON, YOUR IDEA ABOUT EMAILING RESIDENTS BEFORE THE PICKUP? I LIKE IT. I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE THAT CAPACITY. I THINK SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE EMAIL, HONESTLY. UM, BUT CAN WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OPTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TARGETING THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PICKED UP AND ONLY THEM? SO I, I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO IS, UM, AS COST AND ASSESSES AROUND EACH OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH YOU, YOU'VE DONE A LOT ALREADY AND, AND I'M, I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT CUZ IT GETS, LETS US MOVE A LITTLE FASTER ON WORKING ON, UH, A PROPOSAL. IF WE ENGAGE, WE WILL WORK THROUGH THE COMMUNICATION ASPECT. SO IF THEY WANT TO GO NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WOULD KIND OF WORK TOGETHER AND WITH OUR UTILITY BUILDING STAFF ON WHAT THAT COMMUNICATION LOOKS LIKE. UM, OKAY. WE DON'T QUITE HAVE OUR, OUR SYSTEM IN PLACE TO DO THE MASS COMMUNICATION. IT IS PART OF OUR WEBSITE UPGRADE. WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THAT IN PLACE, UM, BY THE TIME WE'RE READY TO START CLEANING UP BRUSH. BUT WE CAN COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT HELPS THEM, UH, MITIGATE SOME OF THAT COLLATERAL ISSUE, WHICH IS SOMEONE OVER AND DUMPING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN WE'RE NOT PLANNING FOR THAT. RIGHT. SO WE CAN WORK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE ISSUES IF WE END UP DOING DOOR HANGERS, THAT IS SOMETHING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS, THAT MY COMMITTEE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ASSIST WITH VOLUNTEERS GOING DOOR TO DOOR AND HANGING. AND IN THAT, IN THAT SCENARIO, WE'RE SIMPLY SOLICITING THEM TO EVEN TAKE BRUSH OFF A TRUCK AT OUR EVENT OR TO HANG DOOR HANGERS. A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SCENARIO THAN HAVING VOLUNTEERS GO ON TO PRIVATE PROPERTY AND DO THOSE THINGS. RIGHT. SO WE'LL SEPARATE THOSE GROUPS AND WE'LL IDENTIFY WHO CAN HELP. AWESOME. THANK YOU. YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, CLAUSON DISPOSAL. Y'ALL HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL AND, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR TIME AND ASSESSMENT AND, UM, WE'RE REALLY GLAD THAT WE'RE PARTNERS WITH YOU. UM, YOU'VE BEEN WONDERFUL. UM, AND SO THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON ITEM SEVEN, CORRECT? NO. ACTION. OKAY. SO [00:50:01] WITH THAT, COUNSEL IS ADJOURNED AT 7:20 PM THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.