Apr 13, 2023 P&Z Commission

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ALL

[1. Call to Order.]

I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

LET

[2. Roll Call. All present except Commissioner John Cosgrove.]

UH, BY, BEFORE I GO ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, WHILE WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE, RON, COMMISSIONER MAY, UM, MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE.

MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE GOING OUT WITH YOU AT THIS TIME, AND NO ONE WOULD'VE HELD IT AGAINST YOU IF YOU WEREN'T, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE AND I'M SURE THE CITY DOES AS WELL.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO

[3. Director’s report to the Planning & Zoning Commission on actions taken by the City Council at the April 6, 2023 meeting]

GOOD EVENING.

I'M REPORTING ON ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE APRIL 6TH MEETING.

UM, THEY COMPLETED THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE FOR THE LION DRIVE, MINOR PUD, AND THEY COMPLETED TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THE, UM, 180 3, A PLAZA MINOR PU, AND THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR LC HERE AWAY.

BOTH PROJECTS WERE APPROVED.

UM, THE 180 3 A PLAZA MINOR PUD WILL BE ON THEIR NEXT AGENDA FOR SECOND READING.

AND THAT'S IT FOR MY REPORT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

AND NEXT WE'LL REVIEW THE MEETING PROTOCOL, WHICH SHOULD BE ON THE BOARD.

THERE IT IS.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO THAT'S OUR MEETING PROTOCOL FOR THE EVENING.

UH, NEXT WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR CITIZENS COMMENTS.

AT THIS TIME, IF THERE'S ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT.

I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO DO SO, BUT IF THERE'S ANYONE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE.

SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE CITIZENS COMMENTS AND MOVE ON TO THE

[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]

IT IS AN ACTION ITEM.

I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.

I'LL SECOND.

MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ONTO

[9. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Subdivision Case CP-22-0014 to adopt the Sullivan Tract Concept Plan on nine parcels of land approximately 308.288 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R022741, R022921, R022922, R356046, R473837, R022923, R473838, R473839, and R022920; generally located west of the intersection of N Bagdad Rd. and Oak Creek Rd., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Subdivision Case CP-22-0014 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

STAFF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

MICHAEL JANOWSKI, PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UH, SO THIS REQUEST IS FOR THE CONCEPT PLAN.

IT INCLUDES ONE COMMERCIAL LOT, 146 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.

UH, PHASE ONE INCLUDES 110 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, AND PHASE TWO INCLUDES THE REMAINING 36 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND THE COMMERCIAL LOT.

UH, CHAPTER 13 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES REQUIRES THAT ONLY ONE PHASE MAY BE PROCESSED PER YEAR, AND PHASES SHALL NOT BE UNDER REVIEW, UH, OR CONSTRUCTION CONCURRENTLY.

THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS, AND PURSUANT TO SECTION TWO, 12.005 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE APPROVAL BY THE MUNICIPALITY IS REQUIRED.

SINCE THE CONCEPT PLAN SATISFIES THE APPLICABLE REGULATIONS WITHOUT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MR. CKI.

IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? NOPE.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I HAVE SEVERAL FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

I WILL DO THAT AND THEN I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR ANYONE WHO'S NOT, UH, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IF YOU'D LIKE TO.

AND THEN I'LL READ SOME SPEAKER OR SOME, UH, COMMENTS POSITIONS.

I GUESS I COULD SAY THAT WERE SUBMITTED ONLINE.

SO, UM, IF I, IF I MESS UP YOUR NAME, MY APOLOGIES UP FRONT, UH, BUT MS. CRYSTAL ESK, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME UP? MA'AM, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

UH, SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

I'M A LITTLE BIT OFF TONIGHT MYSELF.

THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM.

MY NAME IS CRYSTAL ESUE.

I LIVE AT 3,313 WHIT PARK PATH.

IT'S IN THE WHIT RANCH SUBDIVISION.

UM, WE BOUGHT OUR LAND IN 2018 AND IT WAS A DREAM TO HAVE A NICE ACRE.

UH, WE, I KNOW THAT THE WOODS BEHIND IT WAS NOT GONNA STAY THERE FOREVER.

I OWN A BUSINESS IN THE AREA.

I GET IT.

THINGS ARE DEVELOPING AND THAT'S WONDERFUL.

I THINK IT'S AWESOME.

THEY'RE GONNA BE BIG LOTS.

WHAT I DON'T APPRECIATE IS THE COMMERCIAL IS RIGHT IN MY BACKYARD.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SEE ON THE, THE, THAT LITTLE YELLOW AREA, I'M THE CUL-DE-SAC THAT BACKS UP TO THAT.

UM, IN LOCAL LOCAL OFFICE, UM, YOU CAN HAVE A GROUP HOME OR YOU CAN HAVE A FOOD TRUCK PARK.

IT CAN BE OPEN TILL 11:00 PM UM, THERE MIGHT BE BRIGHT LIGHTS AND WE'RE IN A DARK SKY COMMUNITY.

UH, WE WERE TOLD BY THE DEVELOPER ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO THAT THEY WERE GONNA PUT THEIR PARK THERE, UM, AS TO MAKE A BUFFER BETWEEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMERCIAL.

UM, SO WE WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT IT, THE COMMERCIAL BE PUT ON THE OTHER SIDE AND NOT SMACKED UP AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM,

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UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA GO IN THERE.

AND SO I WOULD JUST APPRECIATE IF THAT WOULD BE MOVED FURTHER UP THE ROAD AND AWAY FROM RESIDENCE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

UH, BOYD HENRY.

MR. HENRY, IF YOU SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

UH, MY NAME'S BOYD HENRY, AND I HAVE A, I DON'T LIVE OUT HERE, BUT I'VE GOT A PLACE THAT, UH, ON COUNTY ROAD 2 79, 25, 65.

AND I, I KNOW MR. SULLIVAN AND EVERYTHING, BUT, UH, I, UH, I'M KIND OF OPPOSED TILL EVERYTHING, TILL EVERYTHING GETS GOING.

THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE HAD A ROAD BOND SINCE 2013 AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY, AND NOW THEY'RE COMING BACK IN 2019, SAY IT'S A FIVE LANE, GONNA BE A FIVE LANE ROAD.

AND NOW THEY'RE TRYING, THEY'RE GONNA PUT A RETENTION POND ON MY PLACE BECAUSE OF THE PARK AND THE SUBDIVISION ACROSS FROM ME, WHICH THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO ANY ENVIRONMENTAL RULES ON IT OR ANYTHING, UH, HAS BEEN FLOODING THE HECK OUT OF ME.

BUT ANYWAYS, IT IS SAD THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE DEVELOPER.

I JUST CAME FROM LIBERTY HILL AND THE TRAFFIC WAS BACKED UP FROM THE STOP SIGN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SAN GABRIEL RIVER TRYING TO GET THROUGH THAT FOUR-WAY STOP SIGN.

SO I WONDER WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH TRAFFIC.

WELL, HOW ARE THEY GONNA, HOW NOBODY KNOWS WILLIAMSON COUNTY'S BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR 13 YEARS, WENT THROUGH ST AND MAIZE AND ALL THESE FIVE DIFFERENT COMPANIES IN LA IN, NOBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST WONDER WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.

THEY, THE SUB SILVER CREEK SUBDIVISION, I'VE HAD THE PLACE OUT THERE 35 YEARS.

SILVER CREEK, WHEN THEY PUT IT IN, THEY HAD TO, UH, BE SO BIG SO THEY COULD PUT A WELL IN.

THEY CAME IN AND TAPED THE WATER LINE FOR, UH, HOLLAND OAKS.

I DON'T KNOW.

NOBODY KNOWS HOW THEY GOT THE, THE TAP ON THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WATER IN LIBERTY HILL.

THE WATER LINE WAS SUPPOSED TO GO JUST, JUST TO LIBERTY HILL.

AND SO I JUST WONDERED HOW MANY, ARE THEY GONNA PUT A SEPTIC SYSTEM FOR EACH LOT OR ARE THEY GONNA, OR HOW BIG ARE THEY AND HAVE THEY PLANNED ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE? WILLIAMS COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE A, A GROUNDWATER PLAN ANYWAYS, YOU KNOW, AND TQ DOESN'T HAVE ANY POWER OVER WILLIAMSON COUNTY.

I'VE BEEN FIGHTING WILLIAMSON COUNTY WITH ALL THE REPRESENTATIVES AND FOR 30 YEARS.

AND IT, IT'S SAD THAT THEY, THEY LET PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DE EVALUATE THEIR PROPERTY AND, AND, UH, DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES.

I MEAN, Y'ALL ARE STRICTER THAN, THAN, UH, LIBERTY HILL, BUT I'VE BEEN GOING AROUND ROUND ABOUT THE WATER.

THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WATER OUT THERE.

THEY WERE DRAINING WATER.

THEY DRAINED ABOUT A MILLION GALLONS OF WATER THROUGH MY PLACE.

I COULDN'T EVEN GET TO THE BACK PART OF MY PLACE.

AND, AND NOBODY, I'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN LEEDER AND LIBERTY HILL, EVERYBODY.

NO, IT'S LEANDER.

NO, IT'S LIBERTY HILL.

I'VE BEEN TO OPEN RECORDS AND THEY WON'T ANSWER THAT.

SO, BUT ANYWAY, I JUST, I JUST HOPE THAT EVERYBODY LOOKS INTO THE TRAFFIC SITUATION, THE WATER SITUATION.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY COULD PUT IN THE SUBJECT.

THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WATER THERE NOW.

AND, UH, SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING.

WATER AND TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S GOTTA HAVE WATER AND THEY WON'T LET, THEY WON'T LET PEOPLE TIE INTO THE LINE.

THEY LET THIS, HOW THE OAKS TIE INTO THE WATER LINE, AND THEY WON'T LET SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS TIE INTO THE WATER LINE.

SO, BUT TAKING CONSIDERATION OF WHAT ENVIRONMENTAL MESS IS GONNA MAKE TILL THEY GET A ROAD AND ALL THE SEWER IN AND EVERYTHING.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, CHRISTIE, FRANCE.

MS. FRANCE, IF YOU'LL SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

MY NAME'S CHRISTIE FRANCE AND I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 2216 LIVE OAK ROAD.

UM, MY, UH, MY INITIAL CONCERN REGARDS THE POTENTIAL INCREASE IN TRAFFIC THAT'S GONNA PASS THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, THE PROPOSALS THAT I'VE SEEN HAS LIVE OAK ROAD CUTTING ALL THE WAY FROM BAGHDAD OVER TO THE NEW LAKELINE EXTENSION.

AND IF THAT HAPPENS, IT'S GONNA CREATE A BIG PASS THROUGH BETWEEN THOSE TWO STREETS, WHICH IS GONNA GREATLY IMPACT, UH, THE TRAFFIC THAT'S ON OUR ROAD.

UM, THAT INTERSECTION THERE AT BAGHDAD AND LIVE OAK, IT ALSO DOES NOT HAVE ANY TURN LANE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE THAT NEED TO GO INTO THAT SUBDIVISION.

SO THAT'S ALSO GOING TO CREATE A SAFETY HAZARD.

UM, I WOULD ASK, I I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT THE DEVELOPER WASN'T HERE TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION SO WE COULD GET MORE DETAILS, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT THEY CREATE A PATH FOR LIVE OAK THAT IS NOT A COMPLETE STRAIGHT THROUGH.

UM, AND IDEALLY THEY WOULD PUT UP MULTIPLE FOUR-WAY STOPS IN THAT AREA SO THAT IT WOULD PREVENT DRIVERS FROM SPEEDING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'D ALSO REQUEST THAT THE SPEED LIMIT BE POSTED MULTIPLE

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ANYTHING THAT THEY CAN DO TO SLOW DOWN THE DRIVERS AND MAKE IT INCONVENIENT TO CUT THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

UH, AT THE END OF LIVE OAK, WHICH IS WHERE I LIVE, THERE'S CURRENTLY A CIRCLE TURNAROUND IN FRONT OF IT.

UH, I'M HOPING THAT THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GONNA LEVEL IT OUT AND MAKE IT STRAIGHT, IT'S GONNA RUIN MY LANDSCAPING.

UM, MY LOT WILL ALSO BE RIGHT NEXT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO INSTALL A FAIRLY HIGH ROCK WALL, NOT SOME CHEAP WOOD FENCING, UM, THAT WILL SEPARATE THE TWO SUBDIVISIONS.

ALSO, IF THEY COULD PLOT THE LOT SO THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT BUFFER BETWEEN OUR LOTS AND THIS NEW SUBDIVISION.

UH, WE'VE ALL PAID PREMIUMS TO HAVE THESE BIG LOTS WITH PRIVACY, AND WE DON'T REALLY WANT, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF NEIGHBORS BEING ABLE TO SEE INTO OUR PROPERTIES.

UM, I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL SPACE BEING RIGHT NEXT TO SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS.

UH, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THAT BE MOVED AS FAR AWAY FROM US AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING AND ROCK WALLS BE PUT UP IN BETWEEN SO THAT IT CREATES AS MUCH OF A BUFFER AS AS POSSIBLE.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MS. FRANCE.

RICHARD COUNTS.

MR. COUNTS COME UP.

YOU'LL SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

MY NAME IS RICHARD COUNTS.

I LIVE AT 34 12 WHIT CREEK TRAIL LEANDER.

UH, I HAVE TWO PROPERTIES THAT BORDER THE PROPOSED OFFICE AREA, ESSENTIALLY RIGHT UP AGAINST THEM.

MY CONCERN IS, UH, AS THE OTHER SPEAKER, UH, DISCUSSED, UH, NOISE, ET CETERA, UH, AESTHETICS, BUT ALSO CRIME.

UH, WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY AT LEAST ONE INSURANCE COMPANY THAT OUR RATES WILL GO UP IF WE BORDER AN OFFICE AREA.

SO I WOULD REQUEST IF, IF THE, THE DEVELOPMENT CANNOT BE RELOCATED, THAT AT THE VERY LEAST THERE'S A VERY HIGH BARRIER WALL THAT WOULD PREVENT POTENTIAL CRIMINALS FROM PARKING BEHIND THE OFFICE AREA, GETTING INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND HAVING AN EASY, UH, MEANS OF ESCAPE.

I THINK THAT IN TERMS OF THE CITY'S POINT OF VIEW, UM, LOWERING PROPERTY VALUES BECAUSE OF HIGHER CRIME REDUCES THE TAX BASE, OBVIOUSLY.

UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE BAD FOR EVERYBODY.

UH, WE ALL USE THE TAX MONEY THAT IS COLLECTED FROM US TAXPAYERS.

UM, SO, UM, IF, IF NOT A RETAINING WALL OR SOME NOT A RETAIN, UH, UH, A BARRIER WALL, SOME SORT OF VERY HIGH CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH BARBED WIRE, ET CETERA, TO MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR A CRIMINAL TO COME IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND ESCAPE, UH, UNABATED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

MR COUNTS.

CRYSTAL PARU.

MA'AM, IF YOU'RE TO SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

HI, MY NAME IS CRYSTAL PARU.

I AM THE OWNER OF 33 12 WHIT CREEK TRAIL.

MYLO ALSO, UM, OVERLOOKS THE ZONED COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OR THE OFFICE SPACE.

WHEN WE WERE BUYING OUR PROPERTY TWO YEARS AGO, WE DID ATTEND, UM, A FORUM THAT FOUR STAR HELD AT THE OLD LANDER HOMESTEAD.

INITIALLY, THAT YELLOW SPACE WAS A PARK, UM, THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PLAN FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

AND SINCE THEN, IT, UM, HAS NOW CHANGED TO OFFICE SPACE.

IT'S CONCERNING BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER WAS, UM, TELLING US THE NEED FOR THIS PARK TO BUFFER OUR LOTS.

AND SINCE THEN HAS CHANGED IT AND IT'S GONE AWAY.

AND IT SEEMS THE ONLY REASON THEY DID THAT WAS PROBABLY TO GET OUR BUY-IN TO INITIALLY GET THE PROJECT APPROVED.

THERE IS ZERO INCENTIVE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO PROTECT OUR PRIVACY AND OUR PROPERTY VALUES.

SO I'M URGING THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER OUR EXISTING HOMES AND REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO MOVE THAT TO THE NORTH END OF, OF THEIR PROPERTY.

IF THIS CAN'T BE DONE, THEN PARAMETERS MUST BE PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT US.

UH, I WOULD ASK THAT 15, AT LEAST 15 FEET OF EXISTING VEGETATION BE LEFT IN PLACE.

UM, NOT JUST A BUFFER ZONE, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN WHERE DEVELOPMENTS GO IN, THEY CLEAR CUT EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE, AND THEN YEAH, THAT BUFFER ZONE IS THERE, BUT THEY PUT UP, YOU KNOW, THEIR THREE FOOT TREES THAT TAKE YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS TO GROW, AND OUR PRIVACY WON'T BE THERE.

UM, ALONG WITH A STONE FENCE WALL THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, 10 FEET HIGH AND AT LEAST 15 FEET, UM, INSIDE THOSE PROPERTY LINES SO THAT WE CANNOT SEE THEIR, UM, OFFICE BUILDINGS IN THEIR COMMERCIAL.

THAT PART IS THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE COMMUNITY OF WHIT RANCH.

IT GOES UP ON A, A HILL ALONG THAT FIRE ROAD.

SO IT IS THE FOCAL POINT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AND PUTTING THE OFFICE BUILDINGS THERE WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THAT.

AS SOME OTHERS

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IN CLOSING, PLEASE DO WHAT YOU CAN TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF THE OFFICE SPACE ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. PARDUE.

I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP CURRENTLY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO? OKAY, SEEING NONE, UH, I WILL READ INTO THE RECORD THE POSITIONS OF FOUR, UM, FOR FOLKS THAT SUBMITTED, UH, NICHOLAS ROLLED AT 2 0 12.

LIVE OAK ROAD IS AGAINST THIS ITEM.

LANCE STALLS AT, UH, 32 0 5.

WHIT PARK PATH IS AGAINST THIS ITEM.

AND I'M GONNA, AND I, I APOLOGIZE IF THEY'RE LISTENING OR IN THE ROOM, BUT I'M PROBABLY GONNA GET THIS WRONG.

UH, KEITH, UH, MITCHELL, IT'S M I C H E L, SO IF I GET IT WRONG AGAIN, MY APOLOGIES AT 32 0 1, WHIT PATH PARK IS AGAINST IT.

AND REBECCA MITCHELL AT 32 0 1 WHIT PARK PATH IS AGAINST IT.

AND SEEING NO ONE ELSE TO THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND SIR, YOUR, YOUR NAME IS ALREADY IN THE RECORD BECAUSE YOU SPOKE IT INTO IT AND I CALLED YOU UP, SO YOU'RE GOOD.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOUBLE COVERED ON THAT ONE.

UM, YES, SIR.

UH, SO I'LL OPEN IT UP THE DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER, MAY THE ZONING'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED ON THIS.

THIS IS JUST THE, UH, CONCEPT PLAN AND THERE'S NO VARIANCES.

SO WE ARE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO APPROVE THIS, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER MOSS, NO QUESTIONS.

WE REQUIRED.

COMMISSIONER OLIVER, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

VICE CHAIR ENTRO.

UM, I GUESS MR. JANOWSKI, IF YOU COULD ANSWER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT HELP ANSWER SOME OF THEIR QUESTIONS.

SO BETWEEN THE LOCAL OFFICE AND THE RESIDENTIAL, WHAT KIND OF SETBACK WILL, WILL BE REQUIRED OF THESE DEVELOPERS? UM, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I WANT TO SAY IT'S 50 FEET.

UM, SO THAT'LL BE THE BUILDING.

UH, THERE IS, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT, BUT THERE IS ALSO LIKE A CREEK OR SOMETHING THAT WILL ALSO PUSH BACK HOW FAR THEY CAN DEVELOP.

UM, THEY, THE, UH, BUSINESSES PROBABLY WON'T GET VERY CLOSE TO THAT.

UM, THEY'LL ALSO BE REQUIRED TO PUT UP A SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL, SO ANYWHERE THEY'RE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, THAT WILL ALSO BE REQUIRED.

AND, AND THE NEW DEVELOPMENT HAS LARGE LOTS AS WELL.

YES.

SO, UM, OKAY.

THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.

IT REALLY WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO HAVE THE, THE DEVELOPER HERE TO ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE, EXCUSE ME, WHAT ABOUT THE ISSUE OF, UH, THE HAVING HAD PARKLAND DE DEDICATED AT ONE POINT IN TIME AND NOW SWITCHING IT TO OFFICES? HAS THAT BEEN IN THE, ON OUR RADAR SCREEN? IT HAS.

UM, SO THIS AREA IS WITHIN THE, UH, THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR AND THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR WAS INTENDED TO BE FOR COMMERCIAL LONG BAGHDAD.

UH, PARKLAND WAS NOT AN APPROPRIATE USE, UH, ON A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.

UM, THE DEVELOPER COULD HAVE PUT PARKLAND ELSEWHERE ON SITE, UH, BUT NOT ALONG THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR.

SO HE COULDN'T HAVE PUT PARKLAND THERE IF HE WANTED TO.

IT WOULD'VE, I I THINK WHEN THEY WERE COMING FORWARD WITH THE ZONING, UM, NOT INCLUDING ANY COMMERCIAL WOULD'VE BEEN THE DIFFICULT PART.

OKAY.

THE ONLY OTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE IS, UH, ARE THEY CONNECTING TO THE CITY WATER? UH, I THINK THEY ARE CONNECTING TO CITY WATER, BUT THEY ARE GONNA BE USING SEPTIC SEPTIC INSTEAD OF SEWER.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THAT'S MY QUESTIONS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I DO HAVE A, A COUPLE STATEMENTS.

SO FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW IN THE ROOM, BUT I ACTUALLY LIVE IN GREATWOOD, WHICH IS THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH OF, UH, THE SULLIVAN TRACT.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY CONFLICT HERE BECAUSE I'M NOT WITHIN 200 FEET AND IT REALLY DOESN'T IMPACT, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY AROUND TRAFFIC ON LIVE OAK.

I'VE BEEN THROUGH WHIT, UH, WHIT RANCH AND I, AND IT, AND I GET THE, THE DRAW THERE.

I ACTUALLY LOOKED MYSELF.

UM, WE CAN'T REQUIRE, AS WE SAID BY LAW, WE HAVE TO APPROVE THIS.

AND THAT WAS STATED BY COMMISSIONER MAY UPFRONT, SO I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE BULLET FOR THAT ONE.

UM, BUT WE COULD ASK OR SUGGEST THAT THE DEVELOPER BE GOOD PARTNERS AND DO THINGS LIKE CRASH GATES AT THOSE SPOTS, RIGHT? SO THAT WOULD PREVENT FLOW THROUGH TRAFFIC, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW EMERGENCY SERVICES TO GET THROUGH

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UM, AGAIN, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT WE CAN DO, CITY COUNCIL CAN'T DO THAT AS WELL, BUT THOSE ARE OPTIONS THAT WE'VE SEEN USED IN THE PAST TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.

UH, AS MR. CHENOWSKI SAID, AND, AND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER OR, UM, VICE CHAIR LAN BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CITY ORDINANCES AROUND, UH, RETAINING WALL OR WALLS, UH, SEPARATION OF SPACE, UH, SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, ET CETERA, THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO MEET, UH, AND FOR ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE AROUND, UH, SINCE THEY'RE A, A BUDDING TO RESIDENTIAL, SO THEY WILL HAVE TO MEET THOSE IN ORDER TO, UH, DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY THROUGH THAT.

THAT BEING SAID, UH, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

I'LL BITE THE, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT A BACK AND FORTH, SO I'M, I APOLOGIZE.

NOW.

I'LL BITE THE BULLET AGAIN.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I WILL, UH, SECOND THAT MOTION.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MAY, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER OLIVER.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

AGENDA ITEM

[10. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Subdivision Case CP-22-0016 and Variance Case VA-23-0010 to adopt the Shops at Bagdad Square Concept Plan, Preliminary Plat and Variance on one parcel of land approximately 4.672 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R519003; generally located north east of the intersection of S. Bagdad Rd. and Marsala Circle, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Subdivision Case CP-22-0016 and Variance Case VA-23-0010 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

GENERALLY LOCATED NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH BAGHDAD ROAD, ROAD AND CIRCLE, LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

MICHAEL JANOWSKI, PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UH, SO ARTICLE TWO, SECTION 21 2 OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT THE CONCEPT PLAN SHALL INCLUDE THE PARENT TRACT TO ENSURE ORDERLY PLANNING OF STREETS, UTILITIES, DRAINAGE, AND SHALL ALSO INCLUDE ALL ADJACENT AND CONTINUE CONTIGUOUS LAND OWNED OR CONTROLLED BY THE DEVELOPER OR PERSON, FIRM OR CORPORATION THAT SOLD THE TRACK BEING DEVELOPED.

UH, THIS LOT WAS AN, THIS IS AN EXISTING LOT AND WAS ILLEGALLY SUBDIVIDED BY MEETS AND BOUNDS, UH, BUT IS STILL CONSIDERED PART OF THE SAME SUBDIVISION FOR THE LOTS TO THE SOUTH.

UH, CURRENTLY OFF SCREEN.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO ALLOW THIS PARCEL TO GO THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS WITHOUT INCLUDING THE ASSOCIATED TRACKS TO THE SOUTH, UH, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY SEPARATE.

OWNERSHIP STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MR. CHENOWSKI.

IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? GOOD EVENING.

NO, NO PRESENTATION, BUT I'LL, I'M THE APPLICANT, UH, HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

MICHAEL DOK WITH KIMLEY HORN TWO 60 EAST DAVIS, UH, MCKINNEY, MCKINNEY, TEXAS.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE.

THANK YOU, MR. WE MAY HAVE SOME WHEN WE'RE HAVING THE, OUR DISCUSSION.

THANKS.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AT THIS TIME I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

JEFFREY SMITH.

YEAH, I, I GOT MY NUMBER PICKED UP.

I I WANTED TO SPEAK ON 13.

YES, SIR.

I WILL ADJUST THAT.

AND, UH, SO I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK .

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.

UM, MICHAEL, I GUESS I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ON THIS.

UM, HOW DOES SOMETHING GET ILLEGALLY SUBDIVIDED? UM, IF THE OWNER, UH, OWNS A LARGE AMOUNT OF LAND, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL JUST HAVE, UH, SELL OFF PARCELS, UH, WITHOUT ACTUALLY PLATTING IT.

UM, SO IF IT'S NOT PLATTED, UM, THEY'RE JUST DOING THE MEATS AND BONES, HEY, YOU HAVE THIS ONE ACRE, AND THEN, UM, ONCE IT COMES TO THE CITY, UH, WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY PLAT IT.

AND, UH, I HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE WORD ILLEGALLY SUBDIVIDED.

UH, SO IT'S NOT RECORDED WITH THE COUNTY.

YEAH.

WELL, IT SEEMS TO ME DIFFICULT TO ASK FOR A VARIANCE FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE ILLEGALLY.

THE, THE VARIANCE IS THE SOLUTION TO MAKE THEM LEGAL.

SO THIS IS THE, THE CURE TO THE, THE PROBLEM ILLEGAL IS A VERY STRONG WORD.

YEAH, I, IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF LEGAL.

SO IT'S, IT'S THE ACCURATE WORD.

IT KIND OF GIVES ME THE HEEBIE-JEEBIES A LITTLE BIT.

DON'T HAVE THE HEEBIE-JEEBIES.

IT'S SAFE.

OKAY.

WE, WE'VE RUN INTO THIS A LOT OF TIMES TOO.

ANYTHING UNDER FIVE ACRES IN TEXAS THAT'S SUBDIVIDED WITHOUT PLATTING IS CONSIDERED ILLEGAL.

OKAY.

THIS, THIS TRANSACTION OF LAND HAPPENED SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND THE OWNER WASN'T EVEN AWARE THAT HE WAS DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL TO BUY THE ATTRACTIVE LAND THAT WAS 4.67 ACRES INSTEAD OF FIVE.

OKAY.

SO, UH, THAT'S MY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT, VICE CHAIRMAN.

SO LEGALLY

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I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE GOOD.

, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

COMMISSIONER OLIVER, UH, LET ME GET MY FACULTIES HERE.

UM, YEAH, SO MY, MY QUESTION ABOUT THIS WAS I'M, I'M NOT REALLY HAVING ANY CONCERNS WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AND, AND APPROVING THIS VARIANCE, UH, UH, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ARE ALLOWED TO APPROVE IT WITHOUT ANY REPERCUSSIONS.

BUT I WOULD WANT TO ASK THAT THERE IS A LOT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF THIS THAT'S SEPARATELY OWNED.

AND SO THIS ONE IS ZONED FOR, UH, COMMERCIAL IS THAT, YOU KNOW, SO IS THAT LOT ALSO ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL? AND IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO EITHER FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, SO WHEN THIS LOT IS ACTUALLY THIS SECOND LOT, THE ONE THAT ISN'T BEING ASKED ABOUT THAT'S SEPARATELY OWNED, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO KEEP SOME CONSISTENCY IN THE DEVELOPMENT, THE ARCHITECTURE, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY GOES THERE? CAUSE IF YOU'RE PUTTING A STRIP CENTER IS WHAT I'M ASSUMING IS GOING IN SOMETHING TO THE SOUTH OF THAT MIGHT VERY WELL BE SIMILARLY CONSTRUCTED AND I'M JUST HOPING THAT THERE'D BE SOME CONSISTENCY WITH THE ARCHITECTURE BETWEEN THOSE TWO PIECES.

YEAH, APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT CUZ UH, AND I WISH I COULD ANSWER THAT CUZ I DON'T, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.

UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE CONSISTENCY AS WELL.

WE ARE PLANNING FOR FOUR DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, MIXED USE, UH, RETAIL, COMMERCIAL ON OUR PROPERTY, UM, WITH CONNECTIVITY TO THE SOUTH.

SO AS FAR AS ARCHITECTURAL STUFF, I'LL KIND OF DEFAULT TO Y'ALL IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING THAT DICTATES THAT.

BUT, UM, OUR, OUR DEVELOPMENT WALL, LIKE TO SAY, YOU KNOW.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

THAT WAS MY ONLY, THAT WAS MY ONLY COMMENT AND CONCERN.

JUST WANNA PUT THAT KIND OF IN THE RECORD THAT I LOVE TO AT LEAST SEE FROM THE CITY OF PERSPECTIVE THAT THAT SOUTHERN PORTION, WHENEVER IT'S IT'S DEVELOPED COHESIVE, JUST MAIN SAME, SOME, SOME, SOME COHESIVENESS AND CONSISTENCY WITH WHATEVER IS, YOU KNOW, BUILT.

YEAH, UNDERSTOOD.

IT'S THE THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT.

YEAH.

UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SIMILAR FEATURES.

YEAH, WE COULD SUGGEST IT.

WE COULD.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I HAD.

COMMISSIONER MOSS.

WELL, AS LONG AS WE'VE CLARIFIED WHAT'S LEGAL AND WAS ILLEGAL I'M GOOD.

COMMISSIONER MAY, I'M GOOD.

UM, AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT FOR ANYONE LEFT OR ANYONE LISTENING THAT UNLIKE THE PREVIOUS CASE WHEN IT WAS JUST A STRAIGHT, UM, CONCEPT PLAN.

THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN.

UH, PRELIMINARY PLAT.

IF IT HAD NO VARIANCES, WE HAVE NO SAY IN IT.

IT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE.

SO WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE SAY EVEN THOUGH THIS ONE IS A BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF FIXING A, A PREVIOUS WRONG.

BUT THOSE ARE THE TIMES WHERE WE DO HAVE SOME SAY.

SO IF YOU'RE EVER SEEING SOMETHING AND YOU WANT TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT, WE WANT TO HEAR IT.

BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE NO, NO CHOICE IN WHAT OUR ACTIONS ARE AS A CITY.

UM, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW AS WELL.

OTHERWISE WE'D BE SUED BY THE DEVELOPER AND THEY WOULD WIN EVERY TIME CUZ THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE LAW.

SO WITH THAT, UM, I WILL, UM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

YES.

I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY VICE CHAIR LANDRI, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MOSS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[11. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Subdivision Case CP-22-0018 to adopt the Leander Independent School District Elementary No. 30 Concept Plan and Preliminary Plat on one parcel of land approximately 31.417 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R624045; generally located north west of the intersection of W. San Gabriel Pkwy and Frontenac St., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Subdivision Case CP-22-0018 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCEL R 6 24 45.

GENERALLY LOCATED NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF WEST SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY AND FRONTLINE ST.

OH, SORRY, FUNK STREET, MY BAD.

UH, LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

MICHAEL JANOWSKI, PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UH, THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST AND SECOND STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS AND PURSUANT TO SECTION TWO, 12.005 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, APPROVAL BY THE MUNICIPALITY IS REQUIRED SINCE THIS CONCEPT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLA SATISFY THE APPLICABLE REGULATIONS WITHOUT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.

THANK YOU MR. CHENOWSKI.

IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? MY NAME IS, HELLO, MY NAME'S PATRICK CONLEY.

I'M WITH ATKINS AND NO PRESENTATION, BUT LIKE THE OTHER GENTLEMAN, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU, UH, THEY ARISE.

THANK YOU MR. CONLEY.

UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP.

OH, AT THIS TIME I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER MAY.

I'M GOOD.

COMMISSIONER MOSS? I'M GOOD.

COMMISSIONER OLIVER? UH, I'M GOOD.

VICE CHAIR LAN.

I'M GOOD.

AND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, NO ISSUES AND NOTHING FROM ME.

UH, THIS IS AN

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MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL SECOND THAT WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MAY 2ND IT BY COMMISSIONER OLIVER.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[12. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-22-0045 to amend the current zoning of GC-3-C (General Commercial) to adopt the Leander Collective Minor PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning district of GC-3-A (General Commercial) on one parcel of land approximately 2.97 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R606834 and R606835; and commonly known as 133 and 156 Collective Way, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-22-0045 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO ADOPT THE LEANDER COLLECTIVE MINOR PUD PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF GC THREE, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 2.97 ACRES IN SIZE.

MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT AS THE PARCELS LISTED IN THE POSTED AGENDA STAFF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

HOPE YOU'RE ALL WELL CORYELL PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.

THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO ADD, UH, ADDITIONAL LAND USE OF CLIMATE CONTROLLED SELF STORAGE TO THE GET AN AERIAL GOING.

THERE WE GO TO THE NORTH, UH, IS S F U TWO B.

UH, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS TO THE NORTH, UH, WITH FACILITIES.

UM, TO THE EAST IS I FIVE D UH, AND IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL SITE.

TO THE SOUTH IS GC THREE C AND THAT IS COMMERCIAL.

UM, THERE'S SOME, UH, COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES DOWN THERE.

AND TO THE WEST IS A PU, UH, WHICH IS LEANDER COLLECTIVE PHASE TWO.

AND THEY ARE TOWN HOMES.

SO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 1000 FEET NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF 180 3.

UH, AND SUNNY DRIVE.

THE SITE SITS DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE LEANDER MIDDLE SCHOOL TO THE EAST OF THE TRACK ACROSS, UH, 180 3 IS T FFR ENTERPRISES AND TO THE SOUTH IS THE HARDEN DELRAY RESTAURANT.

THE ABUDDING WEST AREA IS UNDEVELOPED, UH, BUT WILL BE THE FUTURE PHASE TWO OF LEANDRA COLLECTIVE, UH, AND FUTURE TOWN HOMES.

THAT'S CURRENTLY, UH, UNDER, UNDER, UH, REVIEW BY STEPH.

UM, THIS PROPERTY IS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN AND CONTAINS SPARS TREE COVER.

THIS PROPERTY HAS ACCESS ONTO US 180 3.

THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

UH, THE PROJECT NUMBER IS 18 SD 0 32.

THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG US 180 3, UH, RIGHT AWAY, AND CONSTRUCTION OF A SEGMENT OF COLLECTIVE WAY LINKING, UH, 180 3 TO WEST DRIVE.

UH, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, LIFT STATION NUMBER TWO, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL.

UH, AND UH, T I A FEE IN LIEU.

UH, THE PROPERTY IS PLATTED AS LEANDER HEIGHTS, SECTION ONE, EXISTING UTILITIES.

UH, THE PROPERTY HAS ACCESS TO BOTH, UH, WATER, UH, IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OF 180 3.

AND SEWER SERVICE WILL COME FROM THE LIFT STATION NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS IN THE SOUTHEAST OF THE TRACK.

I THINK IT SITS RIGHT AROUND HERE SOMEWHERE.

UH, THE CURRENTLY, THE PROPERTY'S CURRENTLY, UH, UNDEVELOPED.

AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, NO PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS NEEDED FOR THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

UH, PUBLIC, UH, NOTIFICATION WAS PUBLISHED IN THE HILL COUNTRY NEWS AS WELL AS, UH, STAFF MILLED NOTIFICATIONS WITHIN PROP, UH, MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

PUBLIC, UH, SIGNAGE WAS POSTED ON THE SITE, UH, AND TONIGHT IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, MAY 4TH WILL BE THE, UH, FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE AT CITY COUNCIL AND MAY 18TH WILL BE THE FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE.

IN ADDITION TO THE NOTICES MAILED BY STAFF ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, THE AGENT REACHED OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS OF PROPERTY ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY OR ANY PROPERTIES USED AS SINGLE FAMILY, UH, USES WITHIN 500 FEET, UH, PER OUR ORDINANCE, ANY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WERE ALSO CONTACTED, UH, IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET AS ATTACHMENT NUMBER NINE.

YOU SHOULD SEE THE, UH, UH, EXAMPLE LETTER THAT WAS SENT OUT ALONG WITH THE MAILING LABELS AND HIS NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH.

UH, SUMMARY OF COMMUNICATIONS.

SO THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING A MINOR PUD UH, LET'S SEE.

HERE'S THE PUD VERBIAGE.

UM, TO ALLOW FOR A SELF-STORAGE, UH, SELF-SERVICE STORAGE FACILITY USE WITHIN THE BASE ZONING OF GC THREE A.

THIS MINOR PUT INCLUDES A WAIVER TO ALLOW THE SELF-STORAGE THAT WOULD NORMALLY REQUIRE HEAVY COMMERCIAL OR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE COMPONENT.

UM, ALL OTHER ITEMS SUCH AS THE FUTURE LANE USE, MAP DESIGNATION AND COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE ARE IN COMPLIANCE.

THEREFORE, STAFFER RICKMAN'S APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

UH, WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MR. DALE, IS THERE A APPLICANT PRESENTATION? HELLO,

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AND, UH, I DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAVE.

THANK YOU, MR. MONEY.

WE MAY HAVE SOME, UH, AT THIS TIME I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR A DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, NO QUESTIONS.

VICE CHAIR LAN, I HAVE A QUESTION SINCE, UH, SINCE THIS AREA IS NEAR A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND NORMALLY THE SELF STORAGE WOULD BE IN HEAVY COMMERCIAL, UM, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE THREE ACRES WILL BE STORAGE? IT SAID THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE RETAIL AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND, UH, THE STORAGE.

WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE THREE ACRES WOULD BE, UH, THE STORAGE? SO WE HAVE, UH, THREE BUILDINGS.

UH, TWO OF THEM WILL BE RETAIL AND ONE OF THE BUILDINGS IS, UM, WAS ORIGINALLY, UM, WAS DESIGNED FOR WAREHOUSES, WHICH IS ALLOWED IN, UH, GC.

UM, BUT WE THOUGHT THAT IN TERMS OF IT BEING MORE OF A RETAIL CENTRIC, UM, AREA, WE WANTED TO KIND OF UP WITH HAVING MORE OF A CLIMATE CONTROLLED STORAGE VERSUS A TRADITIONAL WAREHOUSE IN THE GC ZONING.

OKAY.

SO MAYBE LIKE A THIRD OF THE DEVELOPMENT? YEAH, 30%.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

MM-HMM.

, COMMISS, CHARLOTTE.

UH, YEAH, SO A QUESTION FOR YOU.

SO I KNOW WITHIN THE, UM, THE STIPULATIONS HERE THAT IF YOU USE, UH, SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, BUILDING MATERIALS, UH, MASONRY SO FORTH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, I GUESS, ADHERE TO THE 400 FOOT SETBACK.

WAS THAT, WHAT IS THAT WHAT'S BEING NOTED UNDER? UM, UH, FOR, FOR A STORAGE FACILITY? I THOUGHT, I'M PRETTY SURE I READ THAT SOMEWHERE UNDER ONE OF THE, UM, AS FAR AS LIKE TYPE TWO AND SOME OF THE, UH, THE .

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

IT WAS IN THE POD VERBIAGE? YES.

OH, I SEE.

YEAH, IT WAS JUST NOTED THAT IF, IF THEY USE CERTAIN TYPE OF, UH, MATERIALS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY DO THE FOUR AND IF IT'S SETBACKS.

SO I THINK WHAT, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THAT MAY ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I THINK, UM, UM, COMMISSIONER LANTRIP WAS TALKING ABOUT REGARDING THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE, THE TOWN HOMES THAT ARE BEING DIRECTLY AFFECTED BEHIND IT.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, DO, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR, OR SINCE YOU'RE HERE ARE, ARE YOU, HAVE YOU ANTICIPATION OF USING CERTAIN MATERIALS THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THE SETBACK? UM, WE HAVEN'T DECIDED ON TERMS OF THE MATERIALITY OF THE PROJECT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE DO PLAN ON HAVING, UH, MASONRY, UH OH, OKAY.

FOR SURE.

FAIR ENOUGH.

UM, AND THEN, YEAH, SO THEN I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.

UM, BUT I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE TOWN HOME SECTION BEHIND IT.

AND I'M JUST CURIOUS, LIKE WITH EVERYTHING BASICALLY SURROUNDING IT, EITHER INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCIAL, WHY WOULDN'T WE CONSIDER SINCE THAT HASN'T REALLY, THAT'S STILL GOING THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS, MAKING THAT A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AS WELL ALSO GIVEN US PROXIMITY TO THE FLOODPLAIN.

WHICH, WHICH AREA? THE, UH, THE, UH, THE TOWNHOME PUT THAT'S DIRECTLY TO THE WEST AND BEHIND THIS PROPERTY? YEAH.

IT'S, IT'S ALREADY ZONED AS TOWNHOUSES.

OKAY.

SO YOU'RE SAYING WHY WOULDN'T IT BE COMMERCIAL? YEAH, EXACTLY.

WELL, THEY HAVE A, A DEVELOPER THAT, UM, ALREADY WENT THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS TO GET THE TOWNHOUSES.

OKAY.

I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE WAS THE DEPTH AND THE DISTANCE FROM 180 3.

YEAH.

UM, FOR A COMMERCIAL PROJECT IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT.

OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH.

JUST A QUESTION.

SO COMMISSIONER MOSS, UM, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW, HOW, UM, BIG WILL ALL THE, YOU SAY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THREE BUILDINGS ON THAT SITE? YES.

SO HOW BIG OR HOW TALL WILL THESE BUILDINGS BE? UM, THE RETAIL BUILDINGS ARE SINGLE STORY MM-HMM.

, UH, BUILDINGS.

UH, WE HAVE NOT DESIGNED OUT THE CLIMATE CONTROLLED STORAGE.

UM, BUT IT WILL BE, UH, PROBABLY A THREE, THREE STORY CLIMATE CONTROLLED STORAGE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHTY.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

MAY MS. GRIFFIN? UH, I THINK I REMEMBER SITTING ON THIS CASE, I THINK DONNY AND I WERE THE ONLY TWO, UH, WITH THE TOWNHOMES BEHIND IT AND IT WAS QUITE CONTENTIOUS IN BOTH PLAYING AND ZONING AND WITH CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ALLOWING THE TOWNHOMES BACK THERE BECAUSE OF THE COMMERCIAL.

UM, AND PART OF IT WAS THE ROAD GETTING CONNECTED THROUGH BY, CUZ THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THAT PUT IS THEY HAD TO FINISH THAT ROAD BEFORE THEY COULD GET COS ON THE TOWNHOUSES.

OKAY.

I COULDN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE CONTENTION WAS.

THE ISSUE WAS LIKE FIRE AND PEOPLE GETTING OUT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UM, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE, UM, CELL STORAGE SMALLER, BUT, UH,

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SO, UH, EITHER MR. DELL OR MS. GRIFFIN, WHOMEVER, WHAT ARE THE HEIGHT ALLOWANCES FOR A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY? WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT WOULD BE 35 FEET AND THEN THEY COULD DO, UH, INCREASE MASONRY TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT.

I FORGET WHAT, FIVE FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT PER SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

THERE'S A, A RATIO, LIKE YOU GO BACK A CERTAIN DISTANCE, YOU GO UP A CERTAIN DISTANCE AND I THINK IT CAN GO UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 90 FEET, AS LONG AS IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT MASONRY.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

BUT DOES THAT INCREASE THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL? IT DOES, YEAH.

SO IT, IT'LL MOVE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AS IT GOES UP BECAUSE I REMEMBER, UM, AS A PART OF THE DIFFERENT CASE, SIMILAR IN CONCERN HAVING, UH, HAVING SELF-STORAGE NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL, BUT THE MM-HMM.

THE CASE OFF OF BAGHDAD.

MM-HMM.

AND EAGLES WAY.

MM-HMM.

.

YES.

AND WE DID SET SOME REQUIREMENTS IN THAT, UM, THAT WE REQUESTED AND, AND THE APPLICANT WAS AMENABLE TO THAT, UM, AROUND THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS OR THE HEIGHT LIMITATIONS SO THAT IT DIDN'T IMPACT THE RESIDENTIAL, THEIR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE TALKING THROUGH THIS MM-HMM.

, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF MR. AMANI, YOU KNOW HOW, I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T DESIGNED IT YET, SIR, BUT, UH, THE, THE, UH, AGAIN, IF I, IF I RECALL THE, THE ONE ON BAGHDAD IS A THREE STORY STORAGE UNIT AS WELL, BUT WE DID SET THE HEIGHT LIMITATIONS.

I I BELIEVE IT WAS 65 FEET.

I, I MEAN, I, I WOULD, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.

I I THINK IT WAS 65 FEET, BUT THAT ALLOWED, UH, THAT ALLOWED THE, THE DEVELOPER TO GET WHAT THEY WANTED AND, BUT IT ALSO KEPT IT AT A MINIMUM WORRY AND CONCERN FOR THE RESIDENTS BEHIND IT.

SURE.

AND WE WOULD BE OPEN TO LIMITING THE HEIGHT TO 65 FEET.

OKAY.

SO, BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE PUT NOTES AND THE RECOMMENDATION.

SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S ONLY WE'RE GONNA SAY.

CAUSE WE CAN SAY ANYTHING UP HERE.

WE'RE NOT GONNA, IF IT'S NOT IN THE PUT NOTES, YOU KNOW, IF IT WASN'T WRITTEN, IT WAS NEVER SAID.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S OKAY.

UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

UM, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

I WILL, SINCE I'M THE ONE WHO TALKED ABOUT IT, I WILL MOTION TO APPROVE, BUT WITH THE ADDITION IN THE PUT NOTES OF LIMITING THE HEIGHT OF THE SELF-STORAGE FACILITY TO 65 FEET, I'LL SECOND.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF AND A SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR LANTRIP.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AGENDA ITEM, DO I NEED TO READ THE ONE THAT'S WITHDRAWN? OKAY, SO IT'S ZERO IN THE, ON THE WEBSITE AND HERE.

SO AGENDA ITEM ZERO, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OFF, SO THAT'S WHY I SAID, UM, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING HIS ZONING CASE Z DASH 2359.