May 25, 2023 P&Z Commission

[1. Call to Order.]

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GOOD EVENING.

THE TIME IS 6:10 PM AND WE ARE GONNA CONVENE THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE LE CITY OF LEANDER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

[2. Roll Call.]

[3. Director’s report to the Planning & Zoning Commission on actions taken by the City Council at the May 18, 2023 meeting]

GOOD EVENING.

I'M REPORTING ON ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE MAY 18TH MEETING ON ITEMS THAT WERE FORWARDED FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

UM, THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE LEANDER CAMPUS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THAT'S THE PROJECT AT HIWAY IN RONALD REAGAN.

UM, THE COUNCIL DID CHOOSE TO NOT TAKE ACTION ON THAT ITEM, AND THEY, UM, MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR CHANGES.

SO WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO UPDATE THE PUT, THEN IT'S GONNA COME BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR ANOTHER REVIEW.

UM, THEY ALSO CONDUCTED THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE B TWISTED ZONING CASE.

THAT'S THE PROPERTY AT CR 2 81, CLOSE TO BAGHDAD ROAD.

THEY DID APPROVE THAT REQUEST, SO IT'LL BE ON FOR SECOND READING AT THE MEETING NEXT WEEK.

UM, THEY ALSO COMPLETED THE SECOND READING OF THE LEANDER COLLECTIVE MINOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 33 COLLECTIVE WAY, UM, CLOSE TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IN 180 3.

UM, THEY DID APPROVE THE SECOND READING, AND THEN THEY ALSO, UM, HA, CONSIDERED ACTION ON THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN.

THEY HAD A FEW COMMENTS AND, UM, THEY WANTED TO INCORPORATE THE APPENDIX INTO THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN.

SO THAT'S GOING BACK TO THE COUNCIL, UM, ON, UH, JUNE 15TH.

AND THAT'S IT FOR MY REPORT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT, WE'LL REVIEW THE MEETING PROTOCOL, WHICH SHOULD BE ON THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.

WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS, IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

NOW, AS YOUR CHANCE, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR THIS, UH, BUT IF ANYONE PRESENT, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM.

ITEM, THE A, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]

UH, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER OLIVER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[8. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Subdivision Case CP-23-0020 to adopt the Lone Star Landing Concept Plan on one parcel of land approximately 37.01 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R031560; generally located north of the intersection of CR 177 and Valley View Dr., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Subdivision Case CP-23-0020 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]

GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 1 77 AND VALLEY VIEW DRIVE.

LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

MICHAEL CHENOWSKI, PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UH, SO THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS, AND PURSUANT TO SECTION TWO, 12.005 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE APPROVAL BY THE MUNICIPALITY IS REQUIRED SINCE THE CONCEPT PLAN SATISFIES THE APPLICABLE REGULATIONS WITHOUT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.

UH, THIS APPLICATION WAS PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FOR THE MAY 11TH, 2023 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

UH, THE CASE WAS DELAYED DUE TO A PUBLIC NOTICE ERROR, AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

GREAT.

IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? NOPE.

WE'RE HERE FOR, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO HAVE SOME FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

SO WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU CAN COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, UH, SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, MR. AL OR ALEX LANG MANSON.

MISS MISERY.

SORRY.

YES, MA'AM.

THAT'S WHY I STOPPED FOR A SECOND.

I WAS LIKE, OOH.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, MY NAME IS ALEXANDRA LOG MANSON AT 1 0 1 VALLEY VIEW DRIVE RIGHT AT THE CORNER.

AND I WANTED TO PREFACE THIS BY SAYING THAT I AND MY NEIGHBOR RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, WE STILL HAVE YET TO BE CONTACTED BY THE DEVELOPER, WHICH I, I BELIEVE THAT THE REGULATIONS ARE THAT THEY HAVE TO REACH OUT TO US, AND THEY REACHED OUT TO EVERYBODY ELSE BUT US.

I'M LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE SAID PROPERTY.

I SAID THIS LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I'VE WRITTEN COMMENTS IN ABOUT IT, AND NO ONE'S EVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

WE HAVE YET TO BE, EITHER OF US HAVE YET TO BE CONTACTED.

SHE'S 1 0 2 VALLEY VIEW DRIVE.

UM, I SAID, I, I WANTED TO SAY WE UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE GROWTH AND PROGRESS IN LEANDER.

WE ARE NOT AGAINST THAT, BUT WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE A RESPONSIBLE TIMELINE ALLOWING LEANDER TO CATCH UP, PARTICULARLY THE ROADS.

WE SUGGEST THEY CAP THE HOUSES FOR PHASE ONE AT A LOWER NUMBER UNTIL CRYSTAL FALLS GETS EXTENDED DUE TO EXISTING ROAD CONDITIONS ON 1 77.

I KNOW I'VE SENT, WE'VE ALL SENT VIDEOS AND SO FORTH.

A LOT OF YOU HAVE SEEN WHAT WE DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS THERE.

AND, UH, THE BUSES CAN BARELY GET THROUGH.

UM, WE KNOW THAT COUNCIL HAS SEEN THE VIDEOS.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

THE

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ON 1 77 ACCESS, ONLY ONE CRYSTAL.

ONCE CRYSTAL FALLS EXTENSION IS EXTENDED, THEN IT MAKES MORE SENSE.

THEY'RE SHOWING 80 TOTAL AND 66 IN PHASE ONE.

MAYBE TAKE THE PHASE ONE DOWN TO 40 UNTIL WE HAVE THE CRYSTAL FALLS EXTENSION.

UM, ALSO REQUIRING THAT THE GATE THAT FOR THE DRIVES ON 1 77, ONCE CRYSTAL FALLS IS EXTENDED, THAT THEY, UM, ARE FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY.

THE SAME WAY THE DEVELOPMENTS ON 1 77.

THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS COMING DOWN THE LINE ON 1 77 AND 1 75 DID.

SO THAT THESE ARE JUST EMERGENCY.

ONCE THE CRYSTAL FALLS IS IN.

UM, WE ALSO ASK THAT THE LOTS, ONCE AGAIN, CONFORM TO THE AREA.

CURRENTLY, EVERY PROPERTY IS AROUND THREE OR MORE ACRES IN THE AREA.

UM, AND I SAID IT'S, I KNOW IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED THAT NOW THEY MAY NOT HAVE TO BUILD A PARK, WHICH ORIGINALLY THEY WERE GONNA HAVE TO BUILD A PARK.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S QUITE CONCERNING FOR US.

WE'D LIKE TO SEE THEM BUILD A PARK AS WELL.

AND, UM, ALSO CONSIDER THEIR LANDSCAPING WHEN IT COMES TO WATERING FOR THE SUBDIVISION, DUE TO THE FACT THAT HALF THE PEOPLE DOWN OUR STREET, UH, THEIR WELLS RUN DRY, THEY DO NOT HAVE WATER.

UM, AND THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH DROUGHTS WHERE WE'RE NOT EVEN ABLE TO WATER OUR LAWNS AND WE'RE ALL RATIONING.

SO HAVING A LITTLE FORESIGHT INTO WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE, BEING THAT THEY ARE ALSO ON BRUSHY CREEK OR RIGHT THERE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND I'M CONFIDENT IN THE END THAT YOU WILL HAVE THE LEANDER AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN MIND WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THIS DECISION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

MARCUS LANG MANSON.

AND I APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE AHEAD OF TIME IF I BUTCHER YOUR LAST NAME.

OH, YOU'RE DOING FINE.

IT'S LOG MONSON SWEDISH.

YEAH, I KNOW.

IT'S DIFFICULT.

I DECIDED TO KEEP THAT WHEN WE MOVED HERE IN THE EIGHTIES.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU ALL FOR, UH, HAVING US.

UM, I'M HER HUSBAND AND WE LIVE THERE IN THAT LITTLE PLOT.

WELL, LET'S SEE HERE.

I THINK IT'S GONNA BE, YEAH, SO IT'S THE, THE WHITE ONE RIGHT OUTSIDE THERE.

WELL, THE FRONT YARD IS IN LEANDER.

IT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE.

UM, THE ISSUE HERE REALLY THAT WE, THAT WE DON'T ENJOY IS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON CR 1 77 THAT PILES UP, NOT THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES THROUGH.

IT'S NOT THAT MUCH, BUT BECAUSE THAT INTERSECTION OF CR 1 77 AND RONALD REAGAN GOING NORTH, YOU CANNOT GET ACROSS THE STREET CUZ IT'S COMPLETELY BLOCKED.

AND, AND THAT KEEPS A FLOWING CR 1 77 FROM BEING ABLE TO RELIEVE ITSELF THERE.

SO IT JUST PILES UP ALL THE WAY BACK TO OFTEN BACK, PAST, UH, LA ROAD OVER THERE.

SO IT'S THAT FAR BACK.

SO YOU IMAGINE A SINGLE LANE THAT DOESN'T MOVE FORWARD.

IT ADDS 10, 10, 15 MINUTES ON TRYING TO GET THROUGH THAT, THAT INTERSECTION.

UM, WE FEEL THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU CAN REALLY GET AROUND THIS ISSUE IS THAT YOU HAVE TO EXTEND, UH, CRYSTAL FALLS.

CRYSTAL FALLS HAVE TO BE EXTENDED UP BECAUSE OF THIS DIVISION THAT'S COMING IN HERE, BUT THERE'S A MUCH LARGER DIVISION THAT'S COMING IN ON 1 75 BEHIND US, AND THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE USING 1 77 OR 1 75 SAM BASS ROAD.

SO THAT'S WHAT I URGE YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER.

SO REALLY LOOKING AT EXTENDING CRYSTAL FALLS, UH, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE LOOKED AT THAT IN THE PAST AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE DEVELOPER WOULD ENJOY IT BECAUSE THEY GET TWO COMMERCIAL PLOTS SUDDENLY ON CRYSTAL FALLS.

SO INCREASE THE VALUE OF THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY.

UM, SO ANYWAY, THAT'S, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OH, ONE MORE THING, ONE MORE THING.

THE TRAFFIC.

HOW DOES IT IMPACT US TO TRAFFIC? WELL, JUST ONE EXAMPLE IS THAT MY KID'S SCHOOL BUS? CAN I GET MY KID TO SCHOOL ON TIME ANY DAY? SHE'S LATE EVERY MORNING, SO I HAVE TO GO UP, GET UP ANOTHER 30 MINUTES EARLIER TO TAKE HER.

I MEAN, 30 MINUTES JUST SO I CAN GET THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.

MAKE SURE I GET HER THERE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MARILEE, FRANZA FRANZI.

I'M NOT GONNA HAVE A GOOD NIGHT TONIGHT.

I CAN TELL ALREADY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE.

SO FIRST, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE AWARE THE BUILDER WEBSITE DOES NOT SHOW CORRECTLY WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR THE ZONING, NEITHER FOLLOWING THE CODE CORNERS.

UH, LOTS.

UH, WE ALL HEAR, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALSO NEED A, YOU KNOW, A TRAFFIC AND WATER FLOOD ANALYSIS DONE, TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS

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WE HAVE NEW DIVISIONS COMING AND I THINK, UH, TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION NEEDS TO BE DONE.

I'M ALSO NOT SURE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE MARK SAID, HOW SCHOOL BOSSES CAN DEAL WITH THIS INCREASE IN TRAFFIC WITH PREVIOUS, UH, APPROVALS BETWEEN SEVEN AND EIGHT IN THE MORNING.

YOU HAVE TO ADD TODAY 30 MORE MINUTES MINIMUM TO YOUR COMMUTE BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC BACK OUT THAT MUCH WITH TODAY'S, UH, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE HAVE.

I, UH, I ALSO, YOU KNOW, NEED TO REMEMBER THE SCHOOL BUS NEEDS TO STOP IN 1 77.

THEIR HOUSE IS THERE AND THEY NEED TO STOP TO DROP AND PICK UP KIDS.

IT IS NOT A ROAD TO HAVE THIS MATTER OF.

SO DIVISIONS COMING IN, UM, 1 77 CAN TAKE EVEN A CONSTRUCTION OR WATER PIPELINE WHEN LOCAL TRAFFIC DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A WAY OUT TO RONALD REAGAN TO TAKE KIDS TO SCHOOL AND TO WORK IN THE MORNING.

WHICH IS ANOTHER THING THAT A CONSTRUCTION OF A WATER PIPELINE THERE BEFORE CHRISTA FALLS IS, IS JUST, I'M NOT SURE HOW IS THAT EVEN, UM, POSSIBLE.

UH, ALSO WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THE WATER SOURCE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IN LEANDER.

AND I THANK YOU YOU GUYS FOR RECENTLY REJECTING EVEN SOME PROPOSALS DUE TO WATER SOURCE CONCERNS.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE IS IN, WELL, UH, I HOPE YOU RECONSIDER SOME OF THE PREVIOUS DECISION.

WE ALSO SHOULD DO AN ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS AS THIS IS A SUBDIVISION NEXT TO A SHOOTING RANGE.

AND EVERY DAY WE HEAR THIS NOISE.

SO I'M NOT SURE HOW WE CAN HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO THAT.

AND WE HAVE OTHER CITIES IN THE US TODAY CONSIDERING LIKE RALLY AND THEY ARE UPDATING THEIR ZONING CODES, THAT ZONING CODES THAT ARE NEXT TO A 16 SHOOTING RANGE STUDENT DON'T HAVE DISCLOSED OF HOUSES TO A SHOOTING RANGE IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE.

THE SLOPE GOES, YOU KNOW, TO THAT WAY.

AND KIDS ARE CURIOUS, KIDS ARE CURIOUS.

SO I'M NOT SURE HOW, HOW WE'RE EVEN CONSIDERING THIS.

AGAIN, YOU KNOW, CHRISTOPHER EXPANSION NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE ANY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS DONE IN THIS AREA.

THIS ROLE CANNOT TAKE THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL TODAY.

AND I THINK THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE THAT WE, WE FORCE.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TRAFFIC AND LEAD ENVIRONMENT.

STUDIES ANALYSIS SHOULD BE DONE AS PART OF THIS.

TRAFFIC STUDIES NEEDS TO CONSIDER APPROVED RESIDENT INSPECTION THAT ALREADY HAVE HAPPENED IN 1 77 AND 1 75 AND THE ROADS AGAIN, THIS ROAD SCHOOL BUS NEEDS TO STOP TO DROP AND PICK UP KIDS IN 1 77.

THANK YOU.

AND MS. FRANZA, CAN YOU PLEASE JUST SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE, FOR THE RECORD BAND FRANZE 1 0 7 VALLEY VIEW ROAD.

THANK YOU.

VALLEY VIEW DRIVE.

THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM.

UH, KATHY HINES, IF YOU'LL COME UP, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

UH, PLEASE SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

HELLO, I'M KATHY HINES.

UM, I LIVE AT 1 0 8 VALLEY VIEW DRIVE, EAST LEANDER.

MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 10 YEARS.

WE KNOW THAT DEVELOPMENT IS INEVITABLE.

NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR THIS PARCEL TO BE DEVELOPED WITHOUT AN IMPROVEMENT IN ROADS.

AND WHEN I MEAN AN IMPROVEMENT IN ROADS, I MEAN MORE THAN FILLING A FEW POTHOLES.

THE CURRENT TRAFFIC ON 1 77 DOES NOT SUPPORT, IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE ROAD.

YOU CAN BARELY GET TWO REGULAR SIZE VEHICLES TO PASS SAFELY ON THE ROAD.

I DRIVE A TRUCK, I HAVE TO PULL OFF BASICALLY TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT.

IF I'M MEETING ANOTHER TRUCK.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO EXPECT 18 WHEELERS AND CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC TO USE THAT FOR A MATTER OF MONTHS? HAVE THERE BEEN ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE? I'VE NOT SEEN ANY EVIDENCE OF IT.

I'VE NEVER SEEN A COUNTER.

HAVE ANY OF YOU EVER DRIVEN THAT ROAD? HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU BEEN OVER THE LOW WATER CROSSING THAT IS IN VERY BAD REPAIR? WE HAVE 18 WHEELERS THAT GO OVER THAT.

WE HAVE TRUCKS THAT GO OFF OF THAT ON A ROUTINE BASIS.

SO THE POINT IS, NO, WE DON'T, THAT WE DON'T WANT THE DEVELOPMENT.

WE'D RATHER IT NOT BE THERE, BUT WE KNOW IT'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED.

BUT WE WOULD ASK FOR A RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT.

WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF LOTS OR THAT YOU PUT CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY IN.

WE KNOW CRYSTAL FALLS, PARKWAYS NEEDED.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE THOUSANDS OF HOMES GOING IN ON 1 75, 1 77.

THEY'RE ALREADY CLEARING A LOT OF THAT.

THE WATER LINES ARE ALREADY THERE.

WHY ARE WE AN AFTERTHOUGHT? ON A SECOND NOTE, LET'S NOT FORGET THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A HIGH VELOCITY, LARGE CALIBER SHOOTING RANGE THAT BORDERS THIS DEVELOPMENT.

NOW, THAT SHOOTING RANGE HAS BEEN THERE FOR DECADES.

HOW MUCH LEAD HAS IT PUT INTO OUR EARTH? AND YOU'RE PUTTING A FAMILY SUBDIVISION DOWNHILL FROM THERE.

I WOULD ASK YOU ALL TO REALLY THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS.

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WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT.

WE ALL LIKE THE NICETIES THAT IT DOES BRING.

WE JUST ASK FOR IT TO BE DONE IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER AND NOT FORGET THE FEW OF US THAT HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO LIVE OFF OF COUNTY ROAD 1 77.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

JOSH FREEMAN.

MR. FREEMAN, YOU'LL, UH, IF YOU SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

UH, JOSH FREEMAN, 1 0 7 VALLEY VIEW, UH, DRIVE.

UM, I'M NOT GONNA RE RE-TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT MY NEIGHBORS HAVE TALKED ABOUT.

I THINK THEY, THEY PROVED THEIR POINTS.

A FEW THINGS I WANNA HIGHLIGHT IS SOME DISCREPANCIES, THOUGH.

THE FIRST ONE IS I THANK YOU FOR RESCHEDULING US.

I WAS THE GUY WHO FOUND THE DISCREPANCY IN WHAT WAS POSTED.

I WALKED MY DOG ONCE IN A WHILE DOWN 1 77 TO ENSURE PEOPLE SLOW DOWN DELIBERATELY, ALSO PICK UP ALL THE TRASH THERE AS WELL ON A REGULAR BASIS.

UM, BUT WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS YOU DID APPROVE A ZONING CHANGE.

THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF OF THAT, THE PLANS THAT YOU SEE THE BUILDER HAS ONLINE.

THE DEVELOPER ONLINE ASSUMES THAT YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE THE GREEN PART, THE DARK GREEN ABOVE THAT.

THE OTHER DISCREPANCY THAT YOU HAVE IS THAT THEY HAVE POSTED PLANS THAT HAVE 55, 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS.

WHEN I LOOK AT THE ZONING REFERENCES, FROM WHAT IDA CAN UNDERSTAND WHEN READING THEM, IS THAT IT'S 70 FOOT MAXIMUM MINIMUM WA WIDTH.

THERE'S ALSO REGULATIONS AROUND CORNER LOTS.

THERE'S REGULATIONS AROUND THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE.

AND CLEARLY THEIR PLANS ARE POSTED ONLINE.

DON'T REFLECT THAT.

SO EITHER THEY BELIEVE YOU'RE GONNA UPDATE THE ZONING AGAIN, WHICH CLEARLY THEY BELIEVE THE ZONING'S GONNA BE CHANGED IN THE, IN THE NORTHERN PART.

UH, BUT YOU GUYS HAVEN'T APPROVED THAT YET.

SO I THINK WE, WE GOTTA LOOK AT THOSE DISCREPANCIES BECAUSE THOSE KEEP COMING UP WITH THIS, THIS, THIS ISSUE.

I THINK THE OTHER DISCREPANCIES COME IN IS PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WATER, PEOPLE TALK ABOUT SAFETY.

I THINK THE OTHER THING WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IS I THINK WE SHOULD LEARN LESSONS FROM RECENT, UH, FIRE ISSUES.

THE ABILITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET OUT OF THERE.

IF THERE IS A FOREST FIRE IN THIS AREA HAS, I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN STUDIED, NOT BEEN CONCERNED.

THERE'S SOME LESSONS LEARNED AT PLACES OUT LIKE WITH, UH, UH, STEINER RANCH AND OTHERS WHERE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

SO OUR CONCERN AS NEIGHBORS IS WE, WE, I REITERATE, WE UNDERSTAND DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA HAPPEN, BUT THAT WAS ZONED FOR RURAL SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES.

WE THOUGHT THAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN.

THE ZONING WAS UPDATED TO INCREASE THE DENSITY.

IN FACT, THEY REQUESTED VERY HIGH DENSITY.

WE DON'T THINK WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, THE FIRE SAFETY.

AND THEN I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA SERIOUSLY KIND OF FOLLOW UP AROUND THIS.

THE LEAD LEAD CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE HERE.

I'VE BEEN A PART IN PAST LIFE AROUND FIRE RANGES FROM MY TIME IN THE MILITARY, UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SURFACE AREA DANGER ZONES ARE, HOW THE REGULATED, I KNOW WHAT KIND OF WEAPONS THEY USE AT LEU.

I KNOW THAT YOU'RE ASSUMING MASSIVE RISK BY LETTING A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS.

GO RIGHT NEXT TO IT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO YOUR CITIZENS.

THANK YOU SIR BEN BEATTY.

SIR, IF YOU COME UP AND SPEAK YOUR NAME INTO THE, AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, SIR.

UH, HOWIE, FOLKS, MY NAME'S, UH, BENJAMIN BATTY.

I LIVE AT FOUR VALLEYVIEW CIRCLE, UM, IN LEANDER.

I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 2009.

UM, SO THE, UH, REAL QUICK, THE RANGE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE, SO LET ME QUALIFY THIS.

UH, SO I FUNCTIONED AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR LNO COUNTY.

UH, SO THAT'S MY, MY ENVIRONMENTAL BACKGROUND.

UM, I DID THAT FROM, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

UM, THE LEAD, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEM WITH CUZ YOUR DRAINAGE ISN'T GONNA GO.

IT HEADS BACK TOWARDS, UM, TOWARDS THE RANCH THAT'S BEHIND THERE TOWARDS GRADY BRUCE'S.

UM, BUT, UH, THE, THE BIGGEST ISSUE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE WITH, THAT'S CALLED AN AT ATTRACTABLE NUISANCE.

UH, SO I WANNA KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS SOME IDEAS AND NOT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I DID MARK AGAINST, DON'T THINK THAT I'M AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT.

I'M NOT, AS LONG AS THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, IS, YOU KNOW, A LOAD-BEARING TAX BASE THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, X AMOUNT OF, UH, OF ROCK ON THE HOMES, THAT THERE ARE X AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND THAT THEY ACTUALLY BRING INCOME INSTEAD OF CAUSE, UH, MORE PATROLLED UNITS TO, UH, TO SHOW UP ON MY FREAKING NEIGHBORHOOD IN 10 YEARS.

SO, UM, THE, THE AT ATTRACTABLE NUISANCE PART OF THIS, UH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU ARE GONNA HAVE THE, THE GUNFIRE THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE AT, AT LAUS.

UM, THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SOME HIGH FENCING AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE YOUR PRETTY LITTLE PRIVACY FENCES, UM, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO CUT IT.

SO WE, WE DO HAVE TO COME UP WITH A REAL SOLUTION FOR THAT.

UH, KIDS ARE GONNA GO OVER THERE AT MIDNIGHT.

UH, THEY, THEY JUST DO, UM, ALSO THAT BRIDGE GUYS, I I FEEL LIKE IF WE JUST SHUT THAT BRIDGE DOWN, WE WOULD SAVE A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING FROM THE WHITE TAIL AND PARKSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD HEADED TO ROUSE, UH, AND WHATEVER THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS THAT'S, THAT'S IN FRONT OF IT.

UM, SO IF WE WERE ABLE TO SHUT THAT BRIDGE

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NOW, THERE ARE SOME NICE HOUSES THAT ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT BRIDGE, UH, TOWARDS 1 75.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO, TO CHEW ON VERSUS JUST BE AGAINST EVERYTHING.

UM, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SEE A, A, A HIGHER END, UM, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, PRICING IN THE 600 S WOULD BE FANTASTIC.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BRI THE BRIDGE CLOSED AND I'D LIKE TO SEE A FENCE, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE PRETTY IMPRESSIVE THAT BORDERS THIS, UH, IN LARUE.

SO THERE YOU GO GUYS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR.

AMY, BRUCE, MA'AM, IF YOU COME UP AND SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, AMY BRUCE, I'M 8 0 8 COUNTY ROAD 1 77.

I'M DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND DIRECTLY BEHIND LARO TACTICAL.

I, UM, A LOT OF WHAT I WANTED TO SAY HAS BEEN SAID.

I CAN JUST REITERATE IT.

THE TRAFFIC IS A NIGHTMARE.

UM, IT'S A PROBLEM.

IT'S NOT SAFE.

I HAVE A SON WITH SPECIAL NEEDS WHO RODE THAT BUS THAT HAD TO STOP ON THAT ROAD EVERY DAY.

UM, AND IT DOESN'T SUPPORT IT.

UM, I REITERATE WHAT SO MANY OF THE OTHERS SAID.

WE ARE A RURAL COMMUNITY ALL UP AND DOWN THIS COUNTY ROAD.

THAT'S WHY WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTIES.

THAT'S WHY WE LIVE THERE.

I KNOW CHANGE HAPPENS AND DEVELOPMENTS ARE GONNA HAPPEN.

UM, THEY NEED TO HAPPEN IN A SAFE MANNER.

WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE LOTS TO BE LARGER.

I AGREE WITH THOSE SAME, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS BY OTHERS THAT, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.

AND I KNOW WE'RE ONLY ADDRESSING THIS FRONT PORTION.

I UNFORTUNATELY GET TO HAVE KI UH, CRYSTAL FALLS COME BLARING THROUGH MY PROPERTY, WHICH I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT, BUT NONETHELESS, UM, AND I WILL BE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THEY DO WITH THAT BACK HALF BECAUSE THAT ALSO IS GONNA BE ADJACENT TO MY PROPERTY.

BUT I HAVEN'T SPOKEN BEFORE.

AND THEN AS THE MOST AFFECTED NEIGHBOR, I JUST WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT THOSE ARE ALL VERY REAL CONCERNS.

SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT ROAD AND THE TRAFFIC BEFORE YOU BUILD ONE MORE HOUSE.

AND WE'D LIKE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO STAY SIMILAR TO HOW IT IS.

SO APPRECIATE IT.

JUST WANTED YOU TO HEAR FROM US TOO.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER KORO? NO, I HAVE, UH, JUST TO COMMENT AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT AND SPEAKING.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, THAT IN THIS PORTION OF THIS PROCESS, WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS PERFUNCTORY.

UM, WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO VOTE.

YES, IT'S A QUIRKY LITTLE LAW IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, BUT DON'T THINK WE'RE NOT LISTENING.

UH, AND, AND DON'T THINK YOUR CONCERNS ARE JUST BALLING ON DEAF EARS.

THANKS COMMISSIONER.

MAY, UM, I KNOW WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE STUDIES.

I, WE'VE DONE THE ROAD RACK ROADWAY IMPACT FEE STUDY AND I BELIEVE WE'VE IDENTIFIED A, IT'S 586 MILLION WORTH OF ROADS.

AND THAT WAS 2021 NUMBERS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

SO IT DID.

IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE IGNORING THESE THINGS, AND I HAVE DRIVEN THOSE ROADS AND I DO AGREE WITH YOU.

THESE ROADS NEED TO BE IMPROVED.

UM, BUT DRIVING THROUGH THE ENTIRE CITY OF LEANDER, WE HAVE 586 MILLION WORTH OF ROADS THAT NEED IMPROVEMENT.

AND WE HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO YOU.

UM, UH, BUT AS JOHN SAID, UH, WE ARE CONSTRAINED BY THE, IT'S THE STATE LAW OF TEXAS TO APPROVE THIS.

UH, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE, THE DEVELOPER COULD LITERALLY SUE THE CITY IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE COMMISSION MOSS.

UM, GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING AND I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU.

BUT LIKE THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS ARE SAYING BY LAW THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO.

UM, DO I AGREE WITH IT? NO, BUT I KNOW I HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW.

SO I GUESS ALL I CAN DO IS APOLOGIZE FOR THE LAW.

BUT WE REALLY ARE LISTENING TO YOU ALL AND WE REAL, ANY, YOU KNOW, STUFF THAT COME UP THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

AND THE LAW IS NOT HOLDING US BACK.

WE ABSOLUTELY, UM, TRY TO TAKE ACTION THAT'S IN FAVOR FOR OUR CITIZENS.

CUZ THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR.

WE ARE HERE TO REPRESENT YOU ALL.

YES, MA'AM.

THEN WHY ARE WE EVEN HERE? IF YOU'VE ALREADY MADE

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AND OKAY.

AND I'LL ASK ME, SORRY.

YEAH, I I KNOW MA'AM.

I'M, I'M SORRY.

OH, I'M SORRY.

YEAH, NO, THIS IS NOT DESIGNED TO BE A BACK AND FORTH.

HOWEVER, I ACTUALLY WAS GONNA ADDRESS THAT WHEN I GET, WHEN IT COMES TO ME AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL ABSOLUTELY ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION, MA'AM.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

YEAH, IT'S OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, I'M GONNA LET, UM, OUR PRESIDENT SPEAK , COMMISSIONER OLIVER.

FAIR ENOUGH.

UH, THE DEVELOPER, YOU, YOU SAID YOU'RE HERE.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU, DO YOU MIND COMING UP TO THE FRONT PLEASE AND ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS FOR ME? UH, SO MY, MY NAME'S GARY JONES.

I'M THE CIVIL, I'M NOT THE DEVELOPER, BUT I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PARTY.

GREAT.

I, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP HERE, GARY.

AND, AND I DO WANNA THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS HERE, BY THE WAY, BECAUSE WE ABSOLUTELY, WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AND UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS.

UM, I I, THERE WAS SOME DISCREPANCIES BROUGHT UP EARLIER THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS ON, ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENCE THAT, THAT CAME UP HERE AND SPOKE ABOUT SOME OF THE LOTS THAT WERE BEING COMMUNICATED AT 50 FOOT.

AND I, I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER BACK IN JANUARY 6TH WHEN WE APPROVED THE ZONING FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL TO ITS CURRENT ZONING.

I FORGET WHAT THAT IS, BUT, UM, WHAT WAS IT? F SF SFR.

SFR.

THANK YOU.

SFS SFS, THANK YOU.

UM, THAT, UH, THOSE HAD TO BE, THAT THOSE COULDN'T BE ANY SMALLER THAN, THAN 70 FOOT LOTS.

IS THAT CORRECT? UH, I, I WILL TALK TO MY CLIENT AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE REPRESENTATIONS ARE TAKEN DOWN BECAUSE I, I APOLOGIZE FOR THOSE BEING UP, BUT THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE BECAUSE I MEAN, THE, THE INITIAL, I MEAN THE INITIAL, UH, ZONING WAS FOR TOWNHOMES AND 50 FOOT LOTS COR CORRECT.

RIGHT.

AND, AND WE, WE, WE PRETTY MUCH HAD WORKED THROUGH THAT, DISCUSSED THAT AND SAID WE WERE NOT COOL WITH THAT AND WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE.

70 FOOT LOTS IS WHAT IS THE CURRENT ZONING? AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A, A MAXIMUM OF 80 HOUSES ARE, ARE EXPECTED TO GO IN THERE ON 70 FOOT LOTS.

THAT'S, YEAH.

AND THEN, I MEAN, NORTH OF CRYSTAL FALLS, IT'S, YEAH, IT, IT, THOSE ARE CURRENTLY, THOSE, THOSE ARE ZONED AS ONE ACRE LOTS.

OKAY.

AND I MEAN, GIVEN THE LAND PRICES ONE ACRE, LOTS DON'T REALLY MAKE SENSE, BUT WE'LL SEE HOW IT DEVELOPS OUT.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE FIRST PHASE WILL JUST BE THE SOUTHERN HALF, UM, SOUTH OF CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY.

RIGHT.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, IS THE, IS PHASE ONE OF THE PROJECT.

RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE NOT EVEN AT PLANNING YET.

SO, UM, AT ANY RATE, I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT.

UM, AND THEN THE, UM, THE, THE, THERE WAS, THERE WAS WAS CONCERN ABOUT COMMUNICATION, ABOUT NOTIFICATIONS.

UH, I HAVE, WHICH IS WHY THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE OR WHAT? I DO NOT.

I THAT COMPLETELY CON I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE TAKEN THE APPRAISAL MAP AND I'VE GIVEN MAILING LIST FOR EVERYBODY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTIES.

I HAVE, I I, I'D REALLY APOLOGIZE FOR THAT'S OKAY.

HAPPY PEOPLE.

YEAH, I KNOW.

AND, AND THAT, I MEAN, I'D, UH, I MEAN, I'D BE GLAD TO TALK TO THE, TO THE LANDOWNER AND COMMUNICATE WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

BUT I MEAN, I MEAN THE, THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IS THAT, I MEAN, WE, I'VE HEARD PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT, UH, TRAFFIC.

I GOT HERE WITH A BEER CAN POSTING SIGNS, SO I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, BUT THE, UM, THE PROPERTY IS, IS BECAUSE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THIS GUY'S BRINGING, UH, WASTEWATER FROM BR CREEK.

HE'S ALSO BRINGING AN EIGHTIES WATERLINE FROM RONALD REAGAN.

UNDERSTOOD.

YEAH.

SO A LOT OF THESE CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE HEARING TONIGHT, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ADDRESSING THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WELL, I, I, I, I DO, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A CONNECTION FEE THAT VALLEY VIEW CAN POTENTIALLY PAY TO CONNECT TO CITY WATER.

IS THAT CORRECT? OR AM I, CAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP DURING THE JANUARY 6TH MEETING.

I'D HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR.

OKAY.

I, LET'S CLARIFY THAT.

CAUSE I, I'M PRETTY, PRETTY SURE BACK ON JANUARY 6TH, THERE, THERE WAS A NOTE THAT THAT VALLEY VIEW COULD PAY A CONNECTION FEE AND TO BRING CITY WATER TO THEIR, TO THE LOTS.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S CURRENTLY A WIRE LINE THAT GOES THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE, I MEAN WHEN WE BRING THE EIGHT INCH LINE ALL THE WAY FROM RONALD REAGAN THAT WE WILL CON WE WILL REPLACE THE SMALL DAM LINE THAT'S IN, UH, 1 77 NOW WITH THE LARGER DIAMETER LINE.

SO, OKAY.

OKAY.

SO IF THE WATER'S EXTENDED TO THEIR PROPERTY, THEN THEY COULD PAY LIKE TO EXTEND IT.

THAT, THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING DURING OUR DISCUSSION ON JANUARY 6TH, THAT THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR THEM TO PAY A CONNECTION FEE TO THEN GET ON CITY WATER.

CUZ CURRENTLY THEY'RE ON WELL, SO SURE.

I MEAN, IT, IT IT'S GETTING IT CLOSER.

SO.

YEAH.

I MEAN, AND, AND AS, I MEAN, AS WELL AS THE TRAFFIC, I MEAN THE TRAFFIC IS, I MEAN THIS IS ONE PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S BRINGING A PORTION OF THE SOLUTION TO CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY.

UM, AND, UH, IT, THAT'S THE AN, I MEAN WE ALL KNOW THAT'S THE ANSWER.

SO, SO WITH, WITH, WITH THAT, I DID WANT TO, TO BRING UP, UM, BACK AT ONE OF OUR LAST MEETINGS WE DID RECENTLY APPROVE THE WIDENING OF CRYSTAL FALLS BETWEEN RONALD REAGAN TO SIX LANES BETWEEN RONALD REAGAN AND COUNTY ROAD 1 75.

YOU'RE MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT.

HAS THAT, HAS THAT BEEN ADJUSTED ON THEIR, ON THEIR MAP? CUZ THAT THAT'S A HUNDRED FOOT EASEMENT THERE FOR THE ROADWAY? NO, THAT, THAT WASN'T DONE UNTIL LEFT.

I MEAN, BEF WE PREPARED

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SO, OKAY.

SO WE'RE NOT, ARE WE NOT, ARE WE APPROVING THIS OR THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADJUST IT TO THE, UH, TO THE NEW SIX LANE REQUIREMENT? SO THEY SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION BEFORE WE CHANGED THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

SO THAT MEANS THEY'RE VESTED TO THE ONE BEFORE.

SO DOES THAT MEAN THEY THEY GET TO GO FOUR LANES THROUGH THERE OR IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE CAN CONFIRM IT WITH ENGINEERING.

OKAY.

CAUSE I THINK THAT, CUZ THAT'S, THAT WOULD LIKELY CUT INTO SOME OF YOUR LOTS AS WELL AND POSSIBLY REDUCE IT FROM SAY, 80 LOTS DOWN TO, LET'S JUST CALL IT 70 FOR ASSUMPTION'S SAKE.

BUT THAT'S MY POINT IS THAT IT, IF WE CAN, I THINK AGREE TO THAT AS WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD BE IN GOOD FAITH AND, AND BE A GOOD STEWARD TO THE, TO THE CITY.

UM, THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR YOU.

IF EN UNLESS YOU HAD ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO SHARE, I TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, BUT YEAH, I DID WANT TO CALL OUT THAT CRYSTAL FALLS CAN'T GET DEVELOPED UNTIL THERE'S DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE HELPING DEVELOP THIS ROADWAY TO ALLEVIATE THE, ALLEVIATE THAT TRAFFIC.

I DRIVE UP AND DOWN COUNTY ROAD 1 77.

I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE LOW WATER CROSSING.

UH, I KNOW THIS AREA, I DISTINCTLY EVEN REMEMBER IT LIKE IT WAS ALMOST YESTERDAY, THE, THE BUS DRIVER THAT TRIED TO DRIVE ACROSS THAT FLOODED ROADWAY AND ENDED UP SWEEPING DOWN BRUSHER CREEK.

LUCKILY THERE WAS ONLY ONE KID ON THE BUS AT THAT TIME.

SO, UH, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS AND TRAFFIC, UH, BUT LIKE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER SAID, THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO HAVE TO APPROVE BY STATE LAW.

UM, BUT WE, WE DO HAVE THE ZONING'S BEEN APPROVED, BUT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO STILL MAKE SOME, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT AS IT CONTINUES TO PROGRESS FORWARD.

SO I JUST CONTINUE TO ASK Y'ALL TO COME OUT AND STAY INVOLVED WITH THIS PROCESS AND HELP THESE DEVELOPERS, UH, SHAPE THIS TO SOMETHING THAT'D BE MORE ACCEPTABLE TO YOU.

UH, I KNOW WHEN YOU MOVED OUT THERE, YOU MOVED OUT THERE ACCEPTING IT THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE COUNTRY, IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY, BUT DEVELOPMENT HAS ENCROACHED AND COME RIGHT ON YOUR DOORSTEP.

AND THAT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE WE GO, UNFORTUNATELY.

BUT, UM, I JUST SAY STAY INVOLVED AND I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND GETTING IN TOUCH WITH THE DEVELOPER AND TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM.

WE'VE, I, I LIVE IN A COMMUNITY THAT WAS AT ONE TIME, FELT LIKE WAS ON AN ISLAND IN LEANDER.

AND AS DEVELOPMENT CAME IN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE JUST STAYED IN GOOD CLOSE COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM ON SOME SOLUTIONS THAT WORKED WELL FOR ALL OF US.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO VICE CHAIR TROPE, IF I KNOW IT'S FRUSTRATING BECAUSE YOU SHOW UP, IT SAYS IN PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU BRING US ALL THESE THINGS.

AND THEN THE STATE LAW SAYS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO APPROVE IT.

HOWEVER, JUST KNOW THAT IT IS THE FIRST, THE FIRST PHASE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

AND BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCES, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT ACCORDING TO STATE LAW.

SO WE DO HAVE TO VOTE YES AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS AS THEY GO THROUGH THE, AND, AND OUR VOTE IS TO RECOMMEND TO COUNSEL, WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO THE COUNCIL AND THEN IT GOES TO COUNSEL, UH, UM, AS IT PROCEEDS ON.

IF VARIANCES ARE ASKED FOR, THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT, THAT THAT OPENS IT UP A LITTLE BIT AS TO LETTING US ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT.

SO YOU HAVE, I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL THAT YOU'VE WASTED YOUR TIME TELLING US THESE THINGS.

WE ARE HEARING IT COUNCIL, I KNOW A LOT OF THEM, PROBABLY MOST OF THEM LISTEN TO THESE MEETINGS AND SO THEY'RE HEARING IT AND YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN IT GOES BEFORE THEM AS WELL.

BUT AT THIS PHASE IN THE DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCES AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THE STATE LAW REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA LET US VOTE.

BUT ONE WAY IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR US TOO.

BUT WE DO HEAR YOU AND, UH, THERE WILL BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AND, AND AGAIN, IF VARIANCES ARE ASKED FOR DOWN THE ROAD, THEN THAT GIVES SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME GIVE AND TAKE MORE SO THAN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU.

SOME OF THE OUT OUTSIDE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS I HAVE HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT I, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE CRYSTAL FALLS ROADWAY NOW, UH, ROBIN ONLY BECAUSE, SO, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS BECAUSE THIS HAD GONE THROUGH BEFORE, THE SIX LANE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE REALLY IS GONNA CUT DOWN TO FOUR LANES THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THEN GO BACK TO SIX LANES AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT IF WE DON'T GET SOMETHING WORKED OUT WITH THIS DEVELOPER.

SO IT'S SOMETHING I NEED TO VERIFY WITH ENGINEERING.

OKAY.

I SAID THAT WAS MY ASSUMPTION, RIGHT? YEAH.

OKAY.

I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT JUST DOESN'T, DOESN'T MAKE, AND AND ALSO MY QUESTION FOR FOR STAFF COULD BE YOU OR MR. CHENOWSKI, BUT IS IT COMMON FOR, UH, CUZ SOMEONE WAS, UH, UH, UH, ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS AROUND, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY GONNA COME BACK AND ASK FOR A DIFFERENT ZONING LATER? IT'S, IT, IS IT COMMON FOR SOMEONE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR A ZONING CHANGE AFTER A CONCEPT PLAN APPROVAL? WE, WE'VE SEEN IT BEFORE.

IT'S NOT A EVERYDAY OCCURRENCE, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH P AND Z AND THEY WOULD'VE TO DO A CONCEPT PLAN APPROVAL AFTER THAT AGAIN.

SO IT WOULD RESTART THEIR PART AND CHANGE WHERE YOU CAN TAKE DIFFERENT EXACTLY.

THE ZONING CHANGES, WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO STOP OR, OR, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, CHANGE OR TAKE ACTION

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OKAY, GREAT.

UM, SO THE, THE INTERESTING IS, MA'AM, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, UH, COMMISSIONER MOSS SAID, YOU KNOW YES, YES MA'AM.

AND SHE STARTED THAT UP, I WAS ACTUALLY WRITING THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU ASKED IT.

SO, AND I, AND I, YOU KNOW, IT'S RIGHT HERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TELLING COMMISSIONER MOSS, UM, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE QUESTION OF WHY DO I COME THEN IF, IF BY LAW WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT, WHY AM I EVEN HERE? WHY DO I BOTHER? BECAUSE IT'S GOOD TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK, RIGHT? WE CANNOT DICTATE TO THE DEVELOPER ANYTHING.

BUT I HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE AND I'LL ASK THAT THIS DEVELOPER THIS AS WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, HEAR THEIR CONCERNS.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE HERE LISTENING AS WELL AND THEY WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS CUZ THEY WANT TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT AND THEY DON'T WANNA MAKE EVERYONE ELSE AROUND THEM MAD BECAUSE THEY MIGHT HAVE OTHER PROJECTS, ET CETERA.

SO IT BUILDS A REPUTATION FOR THEMSELVES.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY MY, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WHY, RIGHT? WE ARE LISTENING, EVEN IF THE CITY AS A WHOLE, THE HANDS ARE TIED, RIGHT? UM, AS IT'S BEEN STATED BY ALMOST EVERYONE HERE, YOU KNOW, BY LAW THE CITY HAS TO APPROVE.

WE COULD VOTE NO, WE ABSOLUTELY COULD VOTE.

NO, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO, RIGHT? BECAUSE AS A CITY, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO APPROVE THIS BECAUSE AS, UH, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS SAID EARLIER, WE WOULD GET SUED AND WE WOULD LOSE.

SO NOW YOUR TAX DOLLARS WOULD BE GOING TO PAY THE DEVELOPER WHO'S GONNA GET WHATEVER, WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN ZONED.

UH, WE HAVE VERY LITTLE WIGGLE ROOM AT THIS SPACE, BUT I DO HOPE THAT THE DEVELOPERS TAKE YOUR, UM, TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK INTO CONSIDERATION, THINGS LIKE A CRASH GATE, ESPECIALLY IF CRYSTAL FALLS IS GONNA BE DEVELOPED AND, AND GETS DEVELOPED WELL, OR ONCE THAT'S DEVELOPED, IF IT'S NOT RIGHT AWAY, UH, CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCES, RIGHT? I LIVE O I LIVE OFF OF COUNTY ROAD TWO 80, SO I CAN'T IMAGINE CONSTANT DEVELOPMENT COMING THROUGH THERE, UM, BEFORE I, YOU KNOW, ME TRYING TO GET HOME OR, OR THAT SMALL ROAD.

AND AS WINDY AS IT IS, UH, WHICH DEFINITELY ISN'T HONESTLY, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LOW, THE LOW WATER, UM, UH, SPACE THAT YOU HAVE WOULD MAKE IT EVEN WORSE, QUITE HONESTLY.

AND SO, AND THE TRAFFIC, YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF THROUGH TRAFFIC ANYWAY.

UH, SO, SO YOUR YOUR SITUATION IS EVEN WORSE THAN WHAT, WHAT MY PERSONAL ONE IS.

SO I, I CAN IMAGINE WHAT THAT IS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WORKING TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD ASK A DEVELOPER TO HELP DO AND, AND LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND, AND, UM, I KNOW, SIR, YOU SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOTTEN ALL THE ADDRESSES AND YOU, AND YOU TRIED TO PASS THE NEWS OUT.

WELL, FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT, IT DIDN'T, IT, IT DIDN'T WORK FOR EVERYONE.

AND, AND THAT'S OKAY, RIGHT? I'M, I'M NOT PUTTING FAULT, I'M NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, HE SAID, SHE SAID ON ANYTHING, UH, BUT I THINK NOW IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO HEAR THE, THE, YOUR NEIGHBORS, UM, OR THE NEIGHBORS TO THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, UH, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND THEN TO TAKE SOME OF THAT TO HEART.

UM, BUT I THINK WE HAVE KIND OF, UH, WOUND THIS ONE DOWN.

IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? ALL RIGHT, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

UH, AND SINCE IT IS ONE THAT WE'RE GONNA APPROVE, I'LL DO WHAT I DO SOMETIMES AND I'LL BITE THE BULLET AND SAY, MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL SECOND.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY THE CHAIRMAN, MYSELF AND A SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COSGROVE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY

[9. Discuss and consider action on the approval of Subdivision Case PP-22-0021 regarding Travisso Village Preliminary Plat on one parcel of land approximately 30.554 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Travis Central Appraisal District Parcel 842650; generally located at the north west corner of Travisso Pkwy and FM 1431, Leander, Travis County, Texas. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Discussion Consider Action]

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

UH, MICHAEL JANOWSKI, PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UH, SO THIS REQUEST IS THE SECOND STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

THIS REQUEST INCLUDES AN ADMINISTRATIVE AMENDMENT, UH, TO THE PERIMETER BLOCK LENGTH.

UH, ARTICLE TWO, SECTION 45 A THREE REQUIRES THAT BLOCKS LOCATED ALONG ARTERIALS STREETS AND CONTAINING PROPOSED COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL USES SHALL NOT EXCEED A PERIMETER BLOCK LENGTH OF 6,000 FEET.

UH, THE ORDINANCE DOES OFFER OPPORTUNITY FOR ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCES TO APPROVE BLOCKS THAT DO NOT MEET THE CRITERIA WHEN THERE ARE UNUSUAL CONDITIONS SUCH AS STEEP SLOPES OR OTHER RESTRICTIVE TOPOGRAPHY, FLOODPLAIN, PUBLIC LAND, RAILROAD TRACKS, EXISTING ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT OR OTHER SIMILAR FEATURES.