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CHIEF CHECK, WHITE.WELCOME TO THE CITY OF LEANDER, PLANNING THE ZONING COMMISSION MEETING ON JULY 27TH, 2023.
I'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
[1. Call to Order.]
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT, WITH[2. Roll Call.]
THE EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONER MOSS AND VICE-CHAIR LANTRIP ONTO THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.[3. Director’s report to the Planning & Zoning Commission on actions taken by the City Council at the July 20, 2023 meeting]
GOOD EVENING.I'M REPORTING ON ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE JULY 20TH MEETING ON ITEMS THAT WERE FORWARDED TO THEM BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THEY COMPLETED THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE FOR THE SPEAKING ROCK PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY APPROVED THE CASE.
AND THEY ALSO, UH, HEARD THE TREE REMOVAL CASE FOR THE VALS RONALD REAGAN PROJECT, AND THEY DID APPROVE THE TREE REMOVAL.
UH, AT THIS TIME WE'LL REVIEW THE MEETING
[4. Review of meeting protocol.]
PROTOCOL.IT'LL BE UP ON THE BOARD TO YOUR RIGHT, AND AT THIS TIME, WE WILL, UH, OPEN IT
[5. Citizen Comments: Three (3) minutes allowed per speaker. [Please turn in speaker request form before the meeting begins.]]
UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.YOU, ANYONE WHO WISHING WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK HAS THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON AN AGENDA.
AN ITEM THAT'S NOT IN THE AGENDA.
UH, SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL MOVE
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ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MAY, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER OLIVER.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[9. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case Z-23-0071 to amend the current zoning of PUD/TOD-S2 (Planned Unit Development/Transit Oriented Development – Station Sector) to adopt the Home Depot PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning district of GC-3-A (General Commercial) on one parcel of land approximately 15.27 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R505807; and generally located 750 feet northwest of the intersection of 183A Toll Road and Hero Way, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-23-0071 as described above. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Open Public Hearing Close Public Hearing Discussion Consider Action]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ZONING CASE Z DASH 23 DASH 0 0 7 1.TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF P U D T O D DASH S TWO PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT STATION SECTOR TO ADOPT THE HOME DEPOT PUD PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF GC THREE, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 15.27 ACRES IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCEL R 5 0 5 8 0 7, AND GENERALLY LOCATED 750 FEET NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF 180 3, A TOLL ROAD AND HERO WAY.
LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS.
COREY DELL PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SO TONIGHT'S, UH, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PROJECT, UH, IS KIMLEY HORN.
UH, THEY'RE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.
THEY'LL MAKE A SHORT PRESENTATION, UH, HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
UH, THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A HOME DEPOT STORE AND ASSOCIATED OUTDOOR STORAGE AND DISPLAY.
THE APPLICANT IS ADDITIONALLY REQUESTING THREE WAIVERS AND ADDING A PROHIBITED USE SECTION FOR THE OUT PARCEL.
ADDITIONAL DETAILS FOR THIS ITEM, UH, WILL BE LATER IN THE REPORT.
GET A PICTURE OF IT UP HERE PER ORDINANCE.
UH, THERE'S SOME SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE PROJECT AS MENTIONED, UM, PER ORDINANCE, 2014 DASH ZERO ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON MARCH 5TH, 2020.
AN OWNER OF A PROPERTY OR PERSONS AUTHORIZED TO REPRESENT THE OWNER MAY APPLY, UH, TO REZONE THE OWNER'S PROPERTY THAT'S IN A, UH, PUD, UH, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT T O D, UH, TO A PUD WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT FROM THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROCEDURES FOR APPLYING FOR A ZONING CHANGE AS SET FORTH IN THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THE APPLICATION, UH, OR THE, YEAH, THE APPLICATION SHALL INCLUDE THE PROPOSED USE COMPONENT, SITE COMPONENT AND ARCHITECTURAL COMPONENT.
UH, THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TONIGHT IS, UH, A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR A PUD, UH, UNDER GENERAL COMMERCIAL GC, UH, TYPE THREE SITE COMPONENT AND TYPE A ARCHITECTURAL COMPONENT.
ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THREE WARRANTS INVOLVING THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE AND SIGN ORDINANCE.
JUSTIFICATION FOR EACH WARRANT CAN BE FOUND IN THE APPLICANT'S, UH, LETTER OF INTENT, WHICH IS ATTACHMENT EIGHT, UH, FOR YOU GUYS.
SO IN THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, THERE'S A, IN UNDER TYPE THREE, THERE'S A LIMITATION TO OUTDOOR DISPLAY AND STORAGE AS AN ACCESSORY USE, UH, TO A NON-RESIDENTIAL BUSINESS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING UNLIMITED, UH, OUTDOOR DISPLAY AND STORAGE AS ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, MOST HOME DEPOTS.
THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING, UH, TWO, UM, SIGN ORDINANCE, UH, WARRANTS.
UH, NUMBER ONE DEALS WITH THE REGULATIONS OF PYLON SIGNS ALONG, UH, A TOLL ROAD.
THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FEET FOR A SIGNED DISPLAY AREA FOR A SINGLE TENANT IS 70 SQUARE FEET.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A MAXIMUM OF 150 SQUARE FEET OF SIGNED DISPLAY AREA FOR A SINGLE OR MULTI-TENANT SIGN ON THE 180 3 A TOLL ROAD, UH, AND DEALING WITH THE WALL SIGN ALONG TOLL ROAD.
THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF WALL SIGN AREA, UH, ON IT
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ON THE TOLL ROAD WOULD BE 300 SQUARE FEET.THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING DOUBLE THAT SIZE TO A MAXIMUM OF 600 SQUARE FEET OF WALL SIGN AREA, UH, DISPLAY ON THE 180 3 A TOLL ROAD FRONTAGE.
UH, TO SET THE SCENE AROUND THE SITE, LET'S SEE, TO THE NORTH, UM, YOU HAVE, UH, PUD AND ALSO T O D, UH, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS UNDEVELOPED TO THE EAST, IS A SINGLE COMMERCIAL LOT.
UM, AND THAT IS A CAR DEALERSHIP.
IT IS ALSO, IT, IT'S IN A PUD, UH, WITH THE BASE ZONING OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL, UH, THE REMAINDER OF THE LOT IS UNDEVELOPED TO THE SOUTH IS A ALSO A PUD UNDER THE T O D, UH, IN THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT, UM, THAT IS A UTILITY SUBSTATION TO THE WEST IS ALSO A PUD UNDER THE T O D, AND IT IS UNDEVELOPED.
UM, THIS PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED, UH, 750 FEET SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF 180 3, A TOLL ROAD AND HERO WAY.
THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND WEST ARE UNDEVELOPED, AS YOU CAN SEE, AND ARE PART OF THE A C C FUTURE EXPANSION PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ACROSS 180 3.
A TOLL ROAD ARE UNDER THE P LEANDER H ONE PUD, WITH ONE LOT BEING DEVELOPED AS A CAR DEALERSHIP.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE SOUTH PROPERTIES ACROSS HERO WAY ARE MOSTLY UNDEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE PET ANALYSIS OWNED ELECTRIC SUBSTATION.
THIS PROPERTY, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPERTY CONTAINS NO TREE COVER AND IS OUTSIDE OF THE FLOODPLAIN PREVIOUS ZONING CASES, UM, IN 2005, THE, THE PROPERTY WAS BROUGHT INTO THE T O D, UH, THE ZONING WAS APPLIED.
THIS PROPERTY HAS ACCESS ONTO BOTH 180 3 A TOLL ROAD AND HERO WAY.
UM, AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS A PROPOSED COLLECTOR LINKING COLLEGE WAY WITH HERO WAY.
IT WILL RUN TO THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY DOWN FROM NORTHLINE DOWN HERE, UM, THAT WILL BE SHARED WITH THE A C C CAMPUS AND RUN ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
THE BUILD OUT OF THIS COLLECTOR WILL BE A 74 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY AS OUTLINED IN THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.
THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HALF OF THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH FOR THIS COLLECTOR.
ALL PROPOSED DRIVEWAYS ALONG 180 3, A TOLL ROAD AND HERO WAY WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY OF LAND LEANDER.
UH, DURING SITE PLAN DRIVEWAY PROPOSAL ALONG 180 3 A WILL ADDITIONALLY REQUIRE A PERMIT FROM C T R M A, THE DRIVEWAY SPACING ALONG 180 3.
A TOLL AND HERO WAY WILL BE, UH, DICTATED BY THE T DOT ACCESS CONTROL MANUAL.
AT THE TIME OF CONCEPT PLAN SUBMITTAL.
THE APPLICANT WILL SUBMIT EITHER A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OR T I A OR A FEE IN LIEU OF THE T I A AS DETERMINED BY THE CITY ENGINEER.
THERE IS ALSO A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG BOTH 180 3, A TOLL ROAD AND HERO WAY THAT WILL BE REQUIRED AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN.
THERE IS NO, UH, SUBDIVISION, UH, THE RECORDED PLAT FOR THIS SITE.
EXISTING UTILITIES, THE PROPERTY PROPERTY HAS ACCESS TO A 12 INCH WATER LINE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OF HERO WAY TO THE SOUTH.
UH, AND THERE EXISTS, UM, I THINK TWO DIFFERENT WATER WASTEWATER OPTIONS THAT, UH, EXIST AROUND THE SITE.
SO THEY'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH HOW THEY'RE GONNA BRING THE, UH, EXTENSION, UH, OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE.
UH, AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS UNDEVELOPED.
A DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD WITH STAFF, UH, IN DECEMBER OF 2022.
UH, SINCE THAT TIME, NO CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE PROJECT ON SUBMITTAL.
UH, YOUR NOTIFICATION SCHEDULE, UH, WAS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AND PACKET.
UH, SO TONIGHT IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IN AUGUST.
AUGUST 17TH WILL BE THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AND THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE.
AND SEPTEMBER 7TH WILL BE THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL'S SECOND AND FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE.
UM, NOTIFICATION WAS MAILED BY THE CITY TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT FELL WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT TRUCK.
BEING THAT NO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES OR HOAS WERE WITHIN THE 500 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, SUBJECT TO REZONE, NO ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH WAS REQUIRED.
UH, THE APPLICANT'S, UM, RESPONSES WERE PROVIDED AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNICATIONS REPORT, AND THEY WERE ATTACHED AS ATTACHMENT NINE IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, SO THE APPROVAL CRITERIA, UH, THIS PROJECT PROPOSAL DOES NOT MATCH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION AND ZONING SUITABILITY.
HOWEVER, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE, WHICH WE COVERED BEFORE, ALLOWING A PROPERTY OWNER TO APPLY FOR A REZONE, UH, FROM THE PUD, UH, UNDER T O D TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT TO A NEW PUD WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT FROM THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED USE COMPLY WITH THAT OF THE REQUESTED GC THREE, A BASE ZONING DISTRICT, AND THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD FURTHER STRENGTHEN
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THE BUDDING T O D LEANDRO CENTRAL AREA.UH, IT'S VERY CLOSE TO NOR AS IT IS A, A COMPLIMENT TO THE NORTHLINE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS UNDERWAY.
UH, THIS PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING HIGHER STANDARDS AND IS REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING, UH, WAIVERS.
SO WE'LL GO OVER THESE REAL QUICK.
HIGHER STANDARDS INCLUDE A, UH, PROHIBITED USE WITHIN THE GC THREE A BASED ZONING DISTRICTS.
UH, THE FULL EXTENT WAS IN THEIR LETTER OF INTENT, BUT SOME OF THEM WERE ANIMAL HOSPITAL, FUNERAL, HOME MANUFACTURED HOUSING SALES, AND OFFICE WAREHOUSE.
UH, AS COVERED BEFORE, THEY ARE REQUESTING WAIVERS ON THE OUTDOOR DISPLAY AND STORAGE AREA ASSOCIATED WITH THE, UM, HOME DEPOT.
AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR UNLIMITED STORAGE, UH, OUTDOOR STORAGE, DISPLAY AND STORAGE AREA.
UH, THEY WILL REQUEST TO INCREASE THE PYLON SIGN SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM 70 SQUARE FEET TO 150 SQUARE FEET, AND THEY WILL INCREASE THE WALL SIGNAGE, UH, FROM 300 SQUARE FEET TO 600 FOOT SQUARE FEET.
BOTH OF THOSE SIGN TYPES WILL BE ON 180 3 A BASED ON THE ABOVE STATED INFORMATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ZONING REQUEST.
AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
UH, I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT, SO, UH, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC OR THE, UH, APPLICANT PORTION.
THANK YOU, MR. DALE, APPLICANT PRESENTATION.
GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
I'M WITH KIMLEY HORN, AND WE ARE PARTNERING WITH HOME DEPOT ON THIS POD, AND WE ARE EXCITED TO POSSIBLY BRING A HOME DEPOT STORE TO LEANDER.
SO I'LL GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT.
SO WE ARE PROPOSING ABOUT A 108,000 SQUARE FEET STORE, AND THEN THAT WILL ALSO INCLUDE A 36,000 SQUARE FEET GARDEN CENTER.
THERE WILL BE ONE OUT PARCEL, UM, ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE THAT'LL BE LOCATED, UM, AT THE NORTH OF THE SITE THAT CAN HAVE A FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL, THAT WON'T BE PART OF HOME DEPOT.
UM, AND I'LL SHOW THAT ON A LATER SLIDE.
UM, ON JUNE 14TH, THE CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE A CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENT THAT CAN HELP FUND CERTAIN PUBLIC FACILITIES.
WE DO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WILL RUN CONCURRENTLY WITH THIS APPLICATION.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DOES REQUIRE THAT THE EXTERNAL FACADE HAVE AT LEAST 90% MASONRY MATERIALS.
THE PUD DOES INCLUDE CERTAIN TERMS LIKE PROHIBITING USES, AND THE SIGNAGE, AS CORY MENTIONED, THAT, UM, THAT IS STANDARD WITH MOST HOME DEPOT STORES, SO IT CAN ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT.
SO LOCATION, HERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A ZOOMED OUT VIEW.
WE ARE LOCATED AT HERO WAY AND TILL 180 3, WE ARE ACROSS THE HIGHWAY FROM ROGER BEASLEY, AND THEN RIGHT NEXT TO THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE SITES.
AS CORY MENTIONED, THE FUTURE LAND USE IS THAT LEAN ANDERSON AND THE LEAN CENTRAL DOES, OF COURSE, HAVE MORE OF A, OF A WALKABLE CENTERED, UH, HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.
BUT WE BELIEVE THIS SITE IS PRIME FOR A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT JUST BECAUSE IT IS ON THAT TOLL 180 3.
AND THEN WITH THE FUTURE HIGHWAY PLANS FOR HERO AWAY EXTENDING EAST THROUGHOUT WILLIAMSON COUNTY, THAT WILL BRING MORE TRAFFIC AS IT TERMINATES RIGHT UP TO 180 3.
THIS WILL PROVIDE A LOT OF GOOD VEHICLE TRIPS THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR MORE OF A, A REGIONAL RETAIL SITE SUCH AS HOME DEPOT.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS THE S TWO STATION SECTOR, AND WE ARE PROPOSING THE PUD WITH THAT GENERAL COMMERCIAL BASED ZONING DISTRICT.
AND HERE IS THE, UH, CONCEPT PLAN.
WE HAVEN'T FINALLY, UH, DONE THE, ALL THE SITE ENGINEERING THAT IS REQUIRED TO REALLY DETERMINE WHERE THE STORE WILL EXACTLY GO, BUT IT WILL MOST LIKELY, OR IT WILL BE ORIENTED TOWARDS THE TOLL 180 3.
WE WILL HAVE THAT, UM, ACCESS POINT ON 180 3, AND THEN THERE WILL BE ANOTHER ACCESS POINT ON HERO WAY.
AND THEN TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE AT THAT CORNER, THAT WILL BE WHERE THAT OUT PARCEL WILL GO FOR A DIFFERENT, UH, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND IN LINE WITH THE TRA MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, THERE IS THAT FUTURE ROADWAY THAT WILL BE JUST TO OUR, UH, WESTERN BORDER.
AND THERE WILL BE AN ACCESS POINT ON HERO WAY THERE AS WELL.
AND THE PRO PROVISIONS, WE DO PROHIBIT A LIST OF, UM, USES THAT WE DETERMINE WITH STAFF WOULDN'T BE DESIRED AT THIS SITE.
AND THEN WE ALLOW ALL THE OTHER COMMERCIAL USES IN THE GC USE COMPONENT THAT WE'RE NOT PROHIBITING.
AND WE ARE ALSO ENSURING THAT WE WILL HAVE, UM, THE LEGAL USE OF OUTDOOR DISPLAY AND STORAGE THAT'S TYPICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOME DEPOT.
SO THINK OF THE, THE SEASONAL DISPLAYS THAT YOU, YOU TYPICALLY SEE, AND THEY'RE NOT ON THE SLIDE, BUT WE DO HAVE THOSE.
UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR THE INCREASE IN THE, IN THE SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS, BECAUSE THAT IS THE HOME DEPOT STANDARD SIGNS THAT THEY USE ALL ACROSS THE NATION.
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AND STAFF CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK WITH, UM, THE, IN THE AMENDMENTS TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE, IT, IT'S IN LINE OR AT LEAST CLOSE TO WHAT THE AMENDMENTS WILL BE PROPOSED IN THE FUTURE.AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN THE, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HIM? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
AND COMMISSIONER COSGROVE, QUICK QUESTION.
DO WE, UM, WHAT SIZE IS A HONDA SIGN? DO WE, DO WE KNOW WHAT SIZE HONDA IS? I, I, I FORGOT.
I CAN LOOK IT UP WHILE YOU ASK YOUR NEXT QUESTION.
UM, NOT REALLY WAS THAT REALLY WAS, I MEAN, THIS IS JUST A, UH, I MEAN, THIS IS A ZONING PO I'M, I'M ON RECORD AS SAYING WE EITHER HAVE A T O D OR WE DON'T HAVE A T O D, AND I'M GOOD WITH WHATEVER IT IS, BUT I WISH WE HAD A SINGLE SET OF RULES.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, I DO AGREE WITH THAT CORONER BEING, UM, BETTER SUITED TO CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAN, THAN TRANSIT, UM, WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I MAY HAVE A COUPLE, EXCUSE ME.
I MAY HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS AS, AS WE GO ALONG, BUT, UH, I THINK I'M GOOD FOR RIGHT NOW.
IT'S, UM, 50 FEET TALL, AND THEN THE SIGN ITSELF IS 14 FEET BY 13, LIKE THE SIGN FACE.
AND, AND HERE ARE WE ASKING FOR AN, AN ELEVATION, UM, WAIVER OR JUST SIZE OF THE SIGN? JUST SIZE.
MAY ONLY THING I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH IS THE UNLIMITED OUTDOOR STORAGE.
NOT THAT HOME DEPOT ITSELF WOULD BE AN EYESORE TO THE CITY, BUT WHEN IT'S STATED ON THE PUD THAT YOU HAVE UNLIMITED OUTDOOR STORAGE, IF THE HOME DEPOT EVER CHANGED OWNERSHIP AND THEY DECIDED TO PUT SOMETHING ELSE THERE, UH, AN UNLIMITED OUTDOOR STORAGE COULD BECOME AN ISSUE.
SO THE WAY WE STRUCTURED IT, IT'S OUTDOOR DISPLAY AND STORAGE ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOME IMPROVEMENT CENTER.
SO IF IT SWITCHED TO A LOWE'S, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE, LIKE IT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A HOME IMPROVEMENT CENTER TO HAVE THE UNLIMITED OUTDOOR STORAGE DISPLAY.
AS LONG AS IT'S SPECIFIED IN THERE, I'M, I'M GOOD.
SO YOU MENTIONED A, UM, AN OUT PARCEL.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW LARGE THAT OUT PARCEL IS GOING TO BE IN THAT CORNER AND, AND LIKE HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE OF RETAIL SPACE CAN GO INTO THAT OUT PARCEL? UM, IN TERMS OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE RETAIL ITSELF, I CAN'T NECESSARILY ANSWER THAT QUESTION JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT SORT OF LIKE DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE REQUIRED IN, IN TERMS OF PARKING.
THAT WOULD ALSO AFFECT THE SIZE OF THE, LIKE, OF THE STORE OR THE RESTAURANT THAT IT WOULD BE.
BUT THE, THE SITE IS ABOUT, UM, 0.73 ACRES, WHICH IS ALMOST 32,000 SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE PARCEL ITSELF.
YEAH, THAT'S A PRETTY DECENT SIZE SIZABLE.
YOU CAN PUT A COUPLE OF, COUPLE OF COM, YOU KNOW, CONVENIENCE STORES OR, OR RESTAURANTS OR SOMETHING THERE.
UM, DOES THE, I GUESS THE QUE THIS MIGHT BE MORE OR LESS YOUR, FOR YOU ROBIN, IS DOES THE UNLIMITED STORAGE ALSO APPLY TO THE OUT PARCEL OR JUST THAN THE HOME DEPOT? IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S JUST DEPOT.
DEPOT ONLY IF IT'S A HOME DEPOT.
HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE, RIGHT.
AND I DOUBT YOU'RE GONNA WANNA PUT ANOTHER, ANOTHER COMPETING HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE IN THAT OUT PARCEL, SO, RIGHT.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS.
THE OTHER, REALLY, THE OTHER ONE I WAS THINKING ABOUT WAS THAT THE, THE COLLECTOR THAT'S GONNA GO BEHIND, THAT'S GONNA CONNECT NOW, IS THAT GONNA GO ALL THE WAY TO HERO WAY OR IS THAT JUST GONNA CONNECT TO A PORTION OF THE, THE PARCEL WHERE, WHERE THE HOME DEPOT IS HOUSED? SO ACCORDING TO THE PLANET, WE'LL NEED TO CONNECT TO HERO WAY.
AND THEN HAVE, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT ANY OF THE, LIKE EITHER TREATMENTS OR BARRIERS OR WALLS OR LANDSCAPING THAT'LL HELP KIND OF SHIELD THAT BETWEEN WHAT'LL EVENTUALLY GO ACROSS THAT COLLECTOR? IS THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A CIVIC BUILDING ZONING FROM WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYING OVER THERE.
THAT'S THE A C C EXPANSION, I THINK.
'CAUSE THE BACK OF THESE, YOU KNOW, HOME IMPROVEMENT AREAS AREN'T ALWAYS THE PRETTIEST AREAS.
THEY CAN ALWAYS TEND, TEND TO BE DEBRIS AND, YOU KNOW, PALLETS AND THINGS AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT GET PILED UP.
SO, UH, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF SHIELDING OR SOME SORT OF BARRIER, NATURAL BARRIER PREFERRED OR A STONE WALL OR, OR LANDSCAPING THAT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SHIELD THAT FROM THAT COLLECTOR FOR TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT AND FOR WHATEVER EVENTUALLY WILL BE, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THAT COLLECTOR.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL, UM, SCREENING STANDARDS IN THE PUD, BUT WE WILL STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH CITY CODE IN TERMS OF SCREENING ANY SORT OF LOADING DOCKS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
IS THERE ANY STIPULATION WE NEED TO PUT IN THIS APPROVAL TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF SCREENING THERE TO SHIELD OUT ANY UNSIGHTLY DEBRIS THAT MIGHT BE BEHIND THE, IT'S A, IT IS AN OPTION.
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A ROAD ADJACENT TO IT.I'D HAVE TO LOOK UP WHAT OUR SCREENING REQUIREMENT WOULD BE.
THAT WOULD BE THE LOADING AREA FOR THE STORE, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, I THINK THE LOADING AREA WILL ACTUALLY BE TOWARDS THE, THE NORTH OF THE SITE OR LIKE THE NORTH OF THE STORE, WHICH WILL BE KIND OF ON THE NORTH SIDE.
SO I THINK, I THINK IT'LL BE KIND OF MORE RIGHT HERE.
THERE'LL LIKELY BE AN ACCESS POINT HERE AS WELL.
WE HAVEN'T OBVIOUSLY DECIDED THAT YET.
BUT, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVEN'T FULLY ENGINEERED THE SITE, SO WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WILL KIND OF GO ALONG THIS, THE ROADWAY.
IS THERE GONNA BE, IS THERE GONNA BE AN ENTRANCE TO THE BACK OF THE, OF THE, UM, OF THE HOME DEPOT FROM THE COLLECTOR THEN? LIKELY, YES.
'CAUSE THEN, SO THEN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THEN TRUCKS CAN COME OFF OF HERO AWAY, GO UP THE COLLECTOR AND, AND ENTER THE BACK OF THE, OF THE HOME DEPOT, UM, FROM, FROM THAT COLLECTOR? CORRECT.
SO OUR, OUR ORDINANCE DOES CALL FOR LOADING SPACES AND DOCKS TO BE SCREENED FROM VIEW BY AT LEAST 60% FROM RIGHT OF WAY.
SO IT'D BE LIKE FENCING OR PLANTING.
SO THAT WOULD COVER MAYBE THE NORTHERN PORTION, BUT IF THERE'S ANY, IF THERE'S ANY EXPOSURE OR ANYTHING FURTHER DOWN, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S 108,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT'S A BIG BUILDING.
SO YEAH, IT'LL LIKELY COVER, YOU KNOW, THE LARGE MAJORITY OF THAT OF THAT.
I MEAN IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE HOME DEPOT WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS, LIKE SAY IN CEDAR PARK OR THE LOWE'S THAT'S HERE IN LEANDER, I MEAN, NOT MANY PEOPLE GO BACK BEHIND THERE AND THERE'S NOT LIKE A ROADWAY, BUT THERE ARE, THERE IS A, I THINK RESIDENTIAL THAT'S BEHIND THE LOWE'S CURRENTLY AR LOWE'S HAS A ROAD BEHIND IT WITH A FENCE AND THEN THE RESIDENTS FACE THE ROAD.
I DON'T GO BACK THERE THAT MUCH.
I MEAN, SO I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHAT IT'S LOOKS LIKE.
THAT'S WHAT COMMUTE TO WORK, IS IT? YEAH.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S SOME SORT OF CONSIDERATION FOR SOME SORT OF SCREENING.
AND ONCE IT GETS TO SITE PLAN, ONCE WE'LL ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE ENTITLEMENTS AND HAVE IT FULLY DESIGNED, THAT'S WHEN WE WILL, UM, BE JUDGED AGAINST CODE AND HAVING THOSE SORT OF SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.
IF THERE IS THE LOADING DOCK BEHIND THE STORE, IF IT'S FACING 1 93 AND IT'S BEHIND, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO, UM, SCREEN IT FROM THE PUBLIC AND THAT WOULD BRING ANOTHER POINT.
THEN CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY LOOSE DEBRIS OR, OR UNSIGHTLY DEBRIS OR MATERIALS THAT ARE BACK THERE, WHETHER THEY'RE HAZARDOUS OR NOT, NEED TO BE CLEANED UP.
SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THE CITY WOULD MANAGE THAT AND THAT WOULDN'T REALLY BE A PROBLEM.
BUT EITHER WAY, UM, THOSE WERE MY, THOSE WERE MY MAIN, UH, CONCERNS.
SO SINCE YOU'RE STILL UP HERE, I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO KIND OF OUTTA ORDER WHAT I WAS THINKING HERE.
UM, FIRST I WANNA PREFACE EVERYTHING I SAY TONIGHT WITH, I LOVE HOME DEPOT, BY THE WAY.
UH, AND SO I'M EXCITED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ONE HERE IN LEANDER AND I DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE DOWN TO NEAR LAKELINE MALL OR IN THE CEDAR PARK.
SO SIDE NOTE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M SUPPORTIVE.
SO YOU'LL, AS YOU'LL SEE IN JUST A MINUTE, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, WHAT ELSE DO YOU PLAN TO DO ON THE LOT? AND IT'S A 15 ACRE LOT, AND RIGHT NOW YOU'VE ACCOUNTED FOR ABOUT THREE ACRES OF IT.
SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE OTHER 12 ACRES? I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE PARKING LOT, BUT IF YOU TELL ME IT'S 12 ACRES OF PARKING LOT, THEN WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE A LITTLE MORE OF A PROBLEM.
SO IT WON'T BE ALL PARKING LOT.
THERE WILL BE, UM, SOME DRAINAGE AND DETENTION THAT WE'LL HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR.
SO EITHER, UM, A POND OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE THAT WILL TAKE UP SOME SPACE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PARKING LOT AND THE STORE.
SO, AND, AND, AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IF THE STORE'S 108,000 SQUARE FEET, THE, THE LOT SIZE IS ABOUT 672,000 SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S A LOT OF DRAINAGE AND PARKING LOT SPACE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WHEN WE, WHEN WE ZONE SOMETHING, WHEN WE CHANGE OUR, OUR ZONING FROM THE T O D, THEN THAT'S GONNA BE WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.
IT'S GONNA BE GENERAL COMMERCIAL, AND YOU CAN PUT OTHER THINGS UP THERE.
SO IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PLANNED, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF EMPTY SPACE THERE AS WELL, WHICH IS ALSO A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING FOR ME, ESPECIALLY IN THAT PRIME LOCATION.
THERE'LL ALSO BE, UM, ABOUT 40,000 SQUARE FEET OF THE GARDEN CENTER TOO.
SO ON TOP OF THAT 108,000, SO CLOSE TO 150,000.
'CAUSE YOU SAID IT WAS INCLUSIVE, SO I DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT IN THE NUMBER.
YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I'M A NUMBERS GUY, SO I'M RIGHT.
UM, THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR.
I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
SO, UH, ON THE, ON THE PLANNING ANALYSIS, IT SAYS IT COMPLIED WITH THE INTENT STATEMENTS AND THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.
I DISAGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE I'LL ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER COSGROVE STARTED TO SAY.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A T O D AND WE HAVE A T O D FOR A REASON, BUT I GET THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ALLOWS, IT SAYS THEY MAY APPLY TO REZONE, UM, WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT FROM THE C Z O, BUT SHOULDN'T THE NEW ZONING DISTRICT BE COMPATIBLE WITH ITS NEIGHBOR OF THE T O D AS WELL? YOU KNOW, THE, THE, WE HAVE, I JUST PULLED OUT MY, MY COMP PLAN TO SEE.
SO LEANDER CENTRAL IS 0.7% OF THE ENTIRE AREA A LAND THAT WE HAVE IN LEANDER.
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TAKING 15 ACRES OF THAT BY DOING THIS.THAT'S THAT TO ME, THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG DEAL.
I GET THE LOCATION, I GET WHERE IT'S AT, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT MY ROLE HERE IS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT I LIKE, REGARDLESS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT I THINK IT'LL BE FOR THE CITY, YOU KNOW, MY JOB IS NOT TO BRING THOSE OTHER THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION.
IT'S TO LOOK AT THE, THE ZONING RULES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, OUR ORDINANCES, ET CETERA, AND APPLY THOSE.
AND RIGHT NOW I JUST DON'T SEE WHERE IT'S COMPATIBLE.
EVEN SAID HERE, IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE GOAL STATEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO I GET THAT YOU GUYS, CITY COUNCIL, EVERYONE ELSE HAS HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT THEY, THAT THEY HAVE TO CONSIDER.
THAT'S NOT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FEEL THAT SITTING ON THE PLANNING IS THE ONLY COMMISSION THAT I CONSIDER.
SO, UM, I, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TELL YOU NOW.
I WON'T BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT TONIGHT.
SO, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? NOPE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MAY, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COSGROVE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, IT PASSES THREE TO ONE WITH MYSELF BEING THE ONLY NAYYY ONTO THE NEXT, UH, AGENDA ITEM MY COUGH.
[10. Discuss and consider action on Tree Removal Case TRP-23-0015 regarding removal of a Significant Trees associated with the Garlock Subdivision Project, generally located south of Gabriels Horn Rd. and west of Donetto Dr., Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Staff Presentation Applicant Presentation Discussion Consider Action]
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON TREE REMOVAL CASE TRP DASH TWO THREE DASH ZERO FIVE REGARDING REMOVAL OF A SIGNIFICANT OF SIGNIFICANT TREES ASSOCIATED WITH THE GARLOCK SUBDIVISION PROJECT.GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF GABRIEL'S HORN ROAD AND WEST OF DETO DRIVE, LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.
MICHAEL CHENOWSKI PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UH, SO THIS REQUEST IS THE FINAL STEP IN THE TREE REMOVAL REQUEST PROCESS.
UH, SO THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO REMOVE 21 SIGNIFICANT TREES DUE TO ADDITIONAL GRADING, UH, NEEDED AND FOR PAD SITES.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, UH, DURING THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, THAT'S WHERE SOME SIGNIFICANT AND HERITAGE TREES WERE APPROVED FOR REMOVAL.
UH, WITH THE SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENT PLANS, UH, THEY COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE ALLOWS TREES WITHIN FIVE FEET OF THE FOUNDATION NECESSARY FOR CONSTRUCTION AND GRADE TRANSITIONS TO BE REMOVED WITHOUT MITIGATION.
UH, THE TREES LOCATED ON THE REMAINDER OF THE LOT SHALL NOT BE REMOVED UNLESS A UNIQUE SITUATION IS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR.
UH, DURING THE SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION PHASE, THE DEVELOPMENT MAY PLAN FOR REMOVAL OF PAD SITE TREES.
UH, IF THE TREES ARE PRO PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL AT THIS STAGE, THEN MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS, UH, APPLY.
UH, SO DURING THE GARLOCK SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION, UH, PLAN REVIEW, UH, WE NOTICED 21 A ADDITIONAL TREES FROM THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, UH, TOTALING 437, EXCUSE ME, INCHES.
UH, THE DEVELOPER HAS ALREADY PAID THE MITIGATION FEES FOR THESE TREES ALONG WITH ALL OF THE OTHER REQUIRED, UH, MITIGATION FEES.
UH, AND I'VE INCLUDED THOSE TOTALS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PLANNING ANALYSIS, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS TREE REMOVAL REQUEST.
IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? GOOD EVENING.
UH, JEFF GUERRERO, I'M THE, UH, APPLICANT FOR, UH, AND FOR KB HOME AS THE OWNER.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF OF, UH, THINGS REGARDING THIS.
UH, YEAH, UH, MR. CHENOWSKI IS CORRECT AND, AND, AND THE, THE WAY THE PRELIMINARY PLAN, UH, PROCESS, UH, UNDERWENT, WE GOT IT APPROVED WITH THE, UH, THE SIGNIFICANT AND HERITAGE, UH, SINGLE HERITAGE TREE, UH, REMOVED, UH, AT THE PRELIMINARY STAGE.
HOWEVER, DURING THE, UH, DURING THE PRELIMINARY STAGE, THERE IS NO GRADING REVIEW.
THERE IS, UH, AND THERE'S NO GRADING REQUIREMENT.
AND NOR DO WE REALLY HAVE CONTROL OF THAT UNTIL WE START GETTING INTO THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW, UH, PHASE OF THE PROCESS WHERE WE'RE THEN TRYING TO MAKE THE SITE WORK.
UH, IT WAS DURING THAT TIME THAT WE HAD TO, UH, WE, WE, WE FOUND THAT WE WERE HAVING TO REMOVE ADDITIONAL TREES BECAUSE THE OWNER WANTED TO, UH, DO THE MASS GRADING AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
UH, WHEN THE T R P WAS INTRODUCED AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW, UH, WE, WE'VE, THIS IS OUR FIRST T R P, UM, UM, PROCESS FROM START TO FINISH.
UH, WE INITIALLY SUBMITTED A LETTER REQUESTING TO, UH, THE A T R P TO BE, UH, SUBMITTED BEFORE YOU GUYS, UH, FOR REVIEW.
AND, UM, AND IT WASN'T UNTIL ABOUT THE FOURTH CONSTRUCTION PLAN UPDATE SUBMITTAL THAT WE TURNED IN, THAT WE, UM, WE TURNED
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IN THE ACTUAL APPLICATION FOR T R P.UH, WE SUBSEQUENTLY, UH, WRAPPED UP APPROVAL OF THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS, INCLUDING PAYMENT OF THE MITIGATION FEES FOR THE TREES INVOLVED, UH, BY ROUTE OF SIXTH REVIEW OF THE, UH, OF THE PLAN APPLICATION.
SO WHEN WE, UH, IT, IT WAS OUR, UM, IT WAS OUR, UH, THOUGHT PROCESS THAT WE, UM, THAT THE PLANS THEMSELVES WERE GOING TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE P N Z FOR YOU GUYS TO BE CONSIDERED.
AND IT, IT, THE, THE SEPARATE APPLICATION PART WAS, UM, WAS NEW TO US.
AND, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU GUYS TODAY, UM, FOLLOWING THE PLAN APPROVAL OF THE, UH, OF THE ALLOWANCE FOR THE TREES TO BE REMOVED, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR THE, THE, THE T R P TO BE APPROVED AS A SEPARATE PROCESS.
AND THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MY LITTLE QUICK SUMMARY.
IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'LL, WE'LL ASK THANKS.
UM, NOW WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
YEAH, SO I APPRECIATE, I, I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE MAP NOW.
I CAN SEE YOU'RE TRYING TO SAVE A NUMBER OF SIGNIFICANT TREES.
I DO SEE SOME CLUSTERS OF TREES THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M JUST NOT NECESSARILY CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NUMEROUS TREES THAT ARE ACTUALLY NOT NECESSARILY AFFECTED BY THE BUILDING ITSELF, BUT, UM, MAYBE WITHIN A, WITHIN THAT DISTANCE THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER REMOVING THEM.
BUT, UM, I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY, ANY ISSUES WITH THIS PLAN.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE STILL SAVING A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TREES AND THERE WILL BE NEW TREES PLANTED ONCE THE DEVELOPMENT GOES IN.
SO AT, AT THAT POINT, YEAH, I'M, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THIS REQUEST.
MAY I KNOW WE CAN'T ALWAYS FORESEE CHANGES IN PLANS.
UM, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THE TOTAL TREE REMOVAL UPFRONT.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OVER THE YEARS WHERE, UM, IF WE WOULD'VE KNOWN
UM, AND I'M, I THINK WE'RE, THEY'RE SAVING A, A MAJORITY OF THE TREES.
COMMISSIONER COSGROVE, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT, UM, IF THE SIGNIFICANT TREE BEING SAVED IS WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF A BUILDING LOT, ONCE THAT BECOMES A PERSON'S LOT, THAT TREE CAN GO, RIGHT? SO, SO WHEN WE SAY WE'RE SAVING A BUNCH OF, OF SIGNIFICANT TREES, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AT SOME OF THESE, THERE ARE A BUNCH OF THOSE THAT WILL NOT BE THERE WHEN A HOUSE GETS PUT ON.
UM, AND I THINK THAT IT, IT IS IMPORTANT TO ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS IN TERMS OF WHAT'S BEING SAVED AND WHAT, WHAT'S BEING CONSERVED, UM, AND, AND WHAT'S GOING.
UH, I, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MAY, UM, I'M WILLING TO GIVE MR. G GUERRERO THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT OUT.
UM, BUT, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THOSE THINGS AS WE GO FORWARD, HOW, HOW THIS PROCESS ACTUALLY WORKS WITH THESE TREES.
UM, THE COMMISSIONER'S ALREADY SAID IT ALL.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE PENALTY IS FOR BEING LAST HERE.
SO I'LL JUST SAY THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER OLIVER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AND THE TIME IS 6 33 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.