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GOOD MORNING. 
          TODAY IS 
          [1. Open Meeting   ]
FRIDAY, JULY 28TH, 2023, AND THE TIME IS 8:31 AM AND THIS IS A RETREAT TO ALLOW THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO COMMUNICATE AND ASSESS THE CURRENT STATUS OF ISSUES, PROGRAMS, AND POLICIES THAT AFFECT THE CITY OF LEANDER, AND TO ENGAGE IN COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING REGARDING OF THE CITY'S ANTICIPATED FUTURE ISSUES AND NEEDS FOR ITS CITIZENS CITY SECRETARY 
          [2. Roll Call   ]
CRABTREE. 
          WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLE COUNCIL MEMBER CATHERINE BATTALION PARKER. 
          HERE. 
          MAYOR PROTE ESBY. 
          MACKEY LONGORIA. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER NICOLE THOMPSON. 
          PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS ERNIE. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BECKY ROSS. 
          HERE. 
          MAYOR CHRISTINE DELAL. 
          HERE. 
          QUORUM IS PRESENT. 
          CITY COUNCIL IS ELIGIBILITY TO DO BUSINESS. 
          ITEM 
          [3. Budget/Capital Improvement Projects]
NUMBER THREE, BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. 
          WE HAVE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, UM, ROBERT POWERS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. 
          I APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING FOR THE BUDGET PRESENTATION. 
          HOPEFULLY IT WON'T TAKE ALL DAY, BUT, UM, THAT'S UP TO DAN. 
          OKAY, OFF TO A ROCKY START. 
          UH, I WANNA PREFACE THE PRESENTATION BY SAYING THAT THE, UH, UH, THE, UH, WHAT'S IN HERE FOR THE PRELIMINARY TAX RATE IS STILL VERY PRELIMINARY. 
          THE, UH, WE RELY ON THE COUNTY WILLIAMSON COUNTY TAX OFFICE TO DO THE CALCULATIONS ON WHAT OUR, UM, MAXIMUM TAX RATE PER STATE LAW, UH, IS. 
          AND SO I HAVE TO MAKE SOME, UH, ASSUMPTIONS DURING THE SUMMER TO GET AS CLOSE AS I THINK. 
          AND, UH, USUALLY THERE'S A DIFFERENCE AND THERE'S, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT. 
          SO, UM, THE GOOD NEWS IS THE RATE THAT I SHOW YOU LATER IN THE PRESENTATION IS, UH, UH, SLIGHTLY LOWER THAN THE, UH, RATE THAT THE COUNTY IS COMING UP WITH. 
          SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME ROOM THERE ON, ON, UH, ADJUSTMENTS, UH, UH, THAT WOULD IMPACT REVENUES, UH, POSITIVELY DEPENDING ON HOW THE COUNCIL, UH, VIEWS THE, THE BUDGET. 
          THIS FIRST SLIDE IS JUST ALL OF THE CITY FUNDS, UH, GROUPED TOGETHER, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HAND THE CURRENT BUDGET FOR F FFY 23. 
          THE MIDDLE COLUMN SHOWS WHERE WE THINK WE WILL END THE YEAR FOR EACH OF THOSE, UH, FUNDS. 
          AND, UH, THEN NEXT YEAR'S PROPOSED BUDGET IS, UH, SLIGHTLY ON ALL, ALL FUNDS. 
          TOTALED IS SLIGHTLY LESS THAN THE, THE, THE CURRENT BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, UM, PRIMARILY DUE TO, UM, UH, THE, THE SLIGHT DROP IN THE BUDGET FOR THE GENERAL, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          SO THE THEME THROUGHOUT TODAY WILL BE STATUS, STATUS QUO BETWEEN F Y 23 AND F Y 24 GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND ON THE, THE TAX BASE. 
          UH, NO SURPRISE HERE, THE, THE CITY'S, UH, VALOREM TAX BASE HAS INCREASED 16% OVER LAST YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE CURRENTLY, WE'RE UP TO $14.3 BILLION. 
          AND THIS IS A 10 YEAR HISTORY OF, OF HOW LEANDER HAS GROWN OVER THE YEARS. 
          THE, AS I MENTIONED, THE PRELIMINARY TAX RATE IS, UM, STILL PRELIMINARY, SO THESE NUMBERS COULD CHANGE. 
          UM, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND PROBABLY MONDAY, WE'LL HAVE THE, THE FINAL FROM, UH, THE, THE TAX OFFICE, WHICH YOU WILL THEN HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA THURSDAY NIGHT TO, UH, VOTE TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULE AND THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER FROM THAT POINT FORWARD. 
          YOU CAN ALWAYS GO LOWER, BUT ONCE YOU SET THAT MAXIMUM RATE, YOU CAN'T GO HIGHER. 
          BUT THE, THE BREAKOUT BETWEEN THE, THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS SIDE, THE GENERAL FUND SIDE, AND THE THE DEBT RATE IS, UH, AND THE, THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON A 25.16 CENTS FOR OPERATIONS AND 13.70 CENTS FOR DEBT. 
          BOTH OF THOSE ARE A SLIGHT, UH, REDUCTION FROM THE CURRENT TAX RATE. 
          THIS TOTAL TAX RATE IS 38.90 CENTS. 
          UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY AT 43.23 CENTS. 
          SO IT'S, UH, OVER A 4 CENT DECREASE. 
          AGAIN, WHAT THE COUNTY'S COMING UP WITH, AND THEY'RE THE OFFICIAL CALCULATORS, BUT THEY GET NUMBERS BACK AND FORTH FROM, FROM US, SO THERE'S SOME CHANGE THERE. 
          BUT, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMING UP WITH 
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A SLIGHTLY HIGHER NUMBER THAN WHAT I CALCULATED HISTORICALLY. 
          THIS IS OUR TAX RATE, UH, BROKEN OUT BETWEEN, UH, THE DEBT RATE AND THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS RATE. 
          AGAIN, IT'S A 10 YEAR HISTORY, AND YOU CAN SEE THE DECLINE, UH, EACH, EACH YEAR. 
          UH, THE DEBT RATE, UH, OF COURSE IS BASED ON, UM, APPROVED DEBT THAT THE CITY HAS ISSUED OVER THE YEARS, WHETHER THAT'S COMBINATION OF TAX AND REVENUE COS OR VOTER APPROVED GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. 
          SO, UH, THE DEBT RATE HAS REMAINED FAIRLY STEADY, BUT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH OUR INCREASED TAX BASE, THE RATE HAS GONE DOWN, AND THE WAY I VISUALIZE THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TAX BASE AND THE TAX RATE IS LIKE A SEESAW ONE GOES UP, THE OTHER GOES DOWN. 
          SO AS OUR TAX BASE HAS REALLY GONE UP, YOU KNOW, UH, STATE LAW REQUIRES THE TAX RATE TO GO, UH, DOWN. 
          SO IT'S NO SURPRISE THERE THAT THE, THOSE RATES WOULD BE BE DROPPING. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF THE SPLIT ON THE, WHERE THE SOURCES OF REVENUE COME FROM FOR THE, THE GENERAL FUND, UH, PROPERTY TAX IS THE LARGEST AT 48%, AND THIS IS BASED ON THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET FOR F Y 24, SIMILAR TO THE CURRENT YEAR AS WELL, SALES TAX MAKES UP 18% DEVELOPMENT FEES, WHETHER THAT'S PLANNING AND ZONING OR BUILDING PERMITS IS, UM, 14% AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS 20%. 
          AND HERE'S A LOOK AT A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUES BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND AND THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE, SALES TAX REVENUES OVER THE YEAR. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE DRAMATIC CLIMB IN THE LAST, UH, SEVERAL YEARS. 
          AND THEN THE CURRENT YEAR ESTIMATE, WE SEE A, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE UNDER WHAT WE, UH, BUDGETED. 
          AND, UH, I THINK EVERYONE'S BEEN BRIEFED AT ONE POINT IN THE PAST ABOUT WHAT MAY BE GOING ON WITH OUR SALES TAX REVENUES, AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE ANY NEW INFORMATION. 
          SO WE'RE, UM, UH, KEEPING NEXT YEAR AT THE STATUS QUO, UH, WHICH, UM, I MAY OVERUSE THE WORD CONSERVATIVE, BUT I THINK IT'S A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE FOR, FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          AND, AND ROBERT, UH, IN TERMS OF THE, THE LARGE TAXPAYER THAT WE'VE BRIEFED EVERYONE ON WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES IN THE ECONOMY, AND DEPENDING ON HOW THE COMPTROLLER TREATS, WHAT GOING FORWARD LOOKS LIKE, YOU COULD HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT SCENARIO IF THOSE PAYMENTS RESUME LET'S JUST BETWEEN BOTH, I THOUGHT REMEMBERED YOU SAYING AT, UH, ONE OF THE MEETINGS PROBABLY IN THE LAST 60 DAYS OR SO, THAT THAT WAS, YOU WERE WAITING ON SOME REPORTS TO COME IN TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE, WE, WE HAVE GOT IT, WE HAVE RECEIVED THEM MEMO, SO WE'RE NOT RECEIVING ANY OF THEIR REVENUE YET. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'VE CONFIRMED THAT. 
          SO WE DO KNOW THAT THAT AUDIT IS BASICALLY WRAPPED UP OR CLOSE TO WRAPPED UP. 
          SO THE BUMP THAT WE DO HAVE, THE GOOD NEWS IS THOSE POSITIVES THAT WE'VE SEEN VERSUS SOME OF OUR PEER CITIES IN THE AREA WHERE WE'RE POSITIVE. 
          SO THAT SHOWS YOU THAT THE TAX BASE IS GROWING, THE SALES TAX BASE IS GROWING ALREADY, UM, BUT WHEN THOSE PAYMENTS ARE, IF AND WHEN THOSE PAYMENTS RESUME, THEY MAY BE UNDER A DIFFERENT PARADIGM BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EVEN SURE IF THEIR INITIAL REPORTING YEARS FOR YEARS WAS EVEN CORRECT. 
          SO THAT, AND THEN YOU ADD IN THE ECONOMY, IF THEY'RE NOT DOING AS MUCH BUSINESS, THEN THAT'LL ALSO FACTOR IN THIS, UH, NEXT SLIDE IS THE, UM, ALL OF THE GENERAL FUND DEVELOPMENT FEES, BUILDING PERMITS, PLANNING AND ZONING FEES, THAT, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          UM, OF ALL OF OUR, OF ALL OF OUR REVENUE SOURCES, THIS IS THE ONE THAT, UH, IS, UH, THE LEAST PREDICTABLE FROM, UM, FROM THE FINANCE STANDPOINT. 
          UM, IT IS ENTIRELY DRIVEN BY THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, COMMUNITY. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE HUGE SPIKE IN, UM, FISCAL YEAR 21 AND THEN, UH, TAPERED OFF IN LAST YEAR, BUT STILL, UM, THE SECOND HIGHEST ON IN THE LAST 
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10 YEARS. 
          UH, WE, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL FOR A WHILE, YOU KNOW THAT WE, UH, BUDGET THESE REVENUES VERY CONSERVATIVELY BECAUSE, UM, IF THEY DON'T COME IN, IT'S HARD TO ADJUST AND WE BASE OUR BUDGET ON THE REVENUES THAT WE EXPECT TO BRING IN. 
          SO, UH, WE PURPOSELY, UM, TAKE A, A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH HERE, HOPING THAT, AND EXPECTING THAT WE WILL EXCEED THAT EACH YEAR. 
          UM, PREVIOUS NINE YEARS, THAT METHODOLOGY WORKED. 
          THE CURRENT YEAR, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE, UM, UH, BELOW BUDGET. 
          AND, UM, SO WE'VE, UH, NOW BEFORE I GO TOO FAR, WHEN LEANER SAYS WE'RE BELOW BUDGET, I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, CITIES IN THE REGION, IN THE STATE THAT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE OUR DEVELOPMENT FEE REVENUE. 
          SO IT'S ALL RELATIVE, RIGHT? WHEN WE SAY WE'RE BELOW BUDGET, IT'S NOT, UM, THAT, UH, THINGS ARE, UH, UH, GLOO AND DOOM. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT WHERE WE'RE PROJECTING, PROJECTING THIS YEAR IS IN LINE WITH THE PREVIOUS YEARS BEFORE THE, THE PRE PANDEMIC SPIKE THAT WE HAD IN, IN 21. 
          SO, BUT IT IS A VERY HARD ESTIMATE, UH, FOR FINANCE TO PROJECT. 
          IT INCLUDES BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY BUILDING PERMITS. 
          IT INCLUDES MULTI-FAMILY, IT INCLUDES COMMERCIAL, IT INCLUDES PLANNING AND ZONING, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE MORE SPECULATIVE PERHAPS ON THE, ON THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY SIDE IN TERMS OF, UH, PLANNING, UH, NEW SUBDIVISIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          SO, UH, NEXT YEAR WE'RE TAKING A SIMILAR APPROACH TO, UH, NOT KNOWING WHERE THE, THE MARKET IS GOING, REDUCING SOME OF THOSE, UH, NUMBERS WITH THE HOPE AND EXPECTATION THAT, THAT, THAT WE WILL EXCEED THAT BUDGET, UH, NEXT YEAR. 
          IF THERE ARE ANY HARD QUESTIONS, UH, DAN AND ROBIN CAN ANSWER THOSE. 
          SO, SO I KNOW THEY'RE STANDARD BY, UM, THIS IS A BUSY CHART, BUT IT'S ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, UM, GROUPED BY THEIR PERCENTAGE OF THE GENERAL, UH, FUND BUDGET. 
          AND THEN THIS GIVES YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE THE, THE MONEY GOES IN. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND AS A WHOLE, NO SURPRISE, IT'S PERSONNEL COSTS, THAT'S ALL INCLUDED, NOT JUST SALARIES AND OVERTIME, BUT HEALTH INSURANCE, UM, THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL RETIREMENT SYSTEM, UH, SOCIAL SECURITY TAXES, WORKERS' COMP, ALL THOSE PERSONNEL RELATED COSTS ARE OVER 60% OF, OF THE BUDGET. 
          THIS CHART SHOWS THE GROWTH IN THE CITY'S POPULATION OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS VERSUS THE GROWTH OR THE, OF OUR, UM, FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT EMPLOYEES IN THE GENERAL FUND, UM, BUDGET. 
          UH, I'M ALWAYS A LITTLE CAUTIOUS TO DRAW ANY, YOU KNOW, TOO, TOO MANY CONCLUSIONS, BUT IT JUST GRAPHICALLY, IT, IT APPEARS THAT OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, THREE TO FOUR YEARS, WE WERE KEEPING PACE WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH. 
          AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE STARTED OUT AT THE RIGHT PLACE PER CAPITA, UM, EMPLOYEES PER CAPITA. 
          BUT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT NEXT YEAR, UH, WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT, UH, UM, IT'S REALLY ONE AND A HALF, UH, NEW POSITIONS IN THE, IN THE GENERAL FUND IN THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET. 
          AND ROBERT, ON THAT, I KNOW WE'VE GOT AN ITEM. 
          WAS THIS CHRISTIE? WAS THIS HANDED OUT TO EVERYBODY? OKAY. 
          WE DO HAVE AN ITEM. 
          WE'RE GONNA CONFIRM SOME OF THE NUMBERS VERSUS SOME OF OUR PEERS SUCH AS, UH, CEDAR PARK AND LEANDER. 
          BUT BY COMPARISON, EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT PFLUGERVILLE, WHO HAS AN E S D, SO THEY HAVE BUDGETED POSITIONS OF 488, AND THERE'S, AND THEIR POPULATION IS 75,000, BUT THEY HAVE AN EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT, SO THEY DO NOT HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT IN-HOUSE, SO THEY WOULD BE CLOSER TO 600, AND THEY ALSO DON'T HAVE OUR POPULATION GROWTH RATE. 
          SO I JUST, ON THAT, WE'RE GONNA REFINE SOME OF THESE NUMBERS, UH, KIND OF MOVING FORWARD. 
          WE DO KNOW OUR FRIENDS AT, AT GEORGETOWN, BY COMPARISON, THEY'RE IN THE NINE HUNDREDS, AND OUR POPULATION IS ALMOST E EQUAL. 
          THEY DO HAVE AN ELECTRIC UTILITY, SO THAT'S, AND THEIR WATER FOOTPRINT IS BIGGER THAN OURS, OBVIOUSLY, WITH CHISHOLM TRAIL. 
          BUT WE ARE GOING TO, FOR THE BUDGET DIVE A LITTLE DEEPER. 
          AND WE CAN ALSO BREAK DOWN FOR Y'ALL THE PERCENTAGES. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT CIVILIAN STAFF VERSUS FIRST RESPONDERS AND THOSE ITEMS, I, I WOULD THINK Y'ALL PROBABLY WOULD WANT US TO DO THAT. 
          SO YOU CAN 
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SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE GROWING MUCH FASTER THAN CEDAR PARK, SO THE VOLUMES THAT ARE CIVILIAN STAFF ARE HAVING TO DO IN TERMS OF REVIEWS, THAT'S APPLES AND ORANGES. 
          UM, AND THEN OUR POPULATION GROWTH VERSUS OUR PO VERSUS OUR GROWTH OF FIRST RESPONDER SIDE. 
          AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO FACTOR IN THINGS LIKE AGE OF AGE OF BUILDING, SO HOW MANY STRUCTURE FIRES YOU WOULD HAVE, WHAT YOUR CRIME RATES ARE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS, BUT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS, NOT JUST IN THIS YEAR, BUT ALSO WHEN REVENUES IMPROVE, I THINK THAT Y'ALL WILL NEED ALL OF THOSE TO MAKE GOOD DECISION POINTS. 
          MR. POWERS, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. 
          SO FOR THE STEP PLAN AND ANY ANTICIPATED KIND OF HR CHANGES TO PEOPLE, IS THAT ANTICIPATED IN THE BUDGET OR SO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE? SO WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET IS FUNDING THE POLICE AND FIRE STEP, STEP PLAN INCREASES AND, UH, TWO AND A HALF PERCENT, UM, MERIT FOR NON-PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          I SEGUE INTO, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE ON, ON WHAT'S NEW. 
          UM, AS, UH, AS WAS ASKED AND AND MENTIONED, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE BUDGET INCLUDES FUNDING THE, UH, UH, THE STEPS IN THE POLICE AND FIRE STEP PLANS AS WELL AS A TWO AND A HALF PERCENT, UM, AVERAGE, UH, MERIT FOR, UH, UH, CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES. 
          AND, UH, BY WAY OF COMPARISON, TWO AND A HALF PERCENT IS, IS, UH, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE, THE AVERAGE MERIT, UH, WAS 4%. 
          GOING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK, IT WAS 3%, AND I, I BELIEVE THE FIRE STEP RANGE OR STEPS ARE TWO AND A HALF PERCENT APART. 
          SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE 2.5%. 
          UM, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE DEPARTMENT THAT IS, UM, UM, HAS THE, UH, RECOMMENDED, UH, FUNDING SUPPLEMENT AND A SUPPLEMENT IS, IS A NEW PROGRAM OR COST THAT IS, UH, NOT IN THE CURRENT BUDGET. 
          UM, BUT, UM, THE NEW POSITION WOULD BE IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT FOR A GRANTS AND CONTRACT ACCOUNTANT. 
          UM, IT'S ONLY LISTED FIRST BECAUSE IN THE FI THE, THIS IS IN ORDER OF, UM, BUDGET NUMBER AND FINANCES, UH, IS A DEPARTMENT THREE, SO IT COMES UP TOP. 
          BUT ANYWAY, IT'S, IT IS THE ONLY NEW FULL-TIME POSITION RECOMMENDED. 
          UM, BUT THIS DEPARTMENT WOULD, UH, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE BURDEN THAT THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE IN, UM, MONITORING, UH, AND FILING THEIR FINANCIAL REPORTS FOR, UH, GRANTS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF GRANTS, BUT THE FEW GRANTS WE DO CAN BE, UM, CUMBERSOME AND, UM, TIME CONSUMING. 
          I'M GOING THROUGH THE THAT RIGHT NOW WITH, UH, CHIEF WOOSTER HOUSING ON THE WINTER STORMS. UM, UH, SO, UM, I THINK THIS, THIS DEPOSITION WILL, WILL HAVE CROSS, UM, CROSS BENEFITS AND MR. POWERS. 
          YES. 
          JUST FOR CLARIFICATION FOR COUNSEL ON THAT, THAT IS SOMEBODY THAT IS GONNA BE ASSISTING IN THE FINANCIAL ADMINISTRATION REPORTING OF GRANTS. 
          IT'S NOT A GRANT WRITER. 
          CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          T CORRECT. 
          AND EVEN ONE THING THAT I WOULD WOULD SAY FOR A CITY OUR SIZE, IT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO HAVE A CONTRACT FIRM IF WE'RE IN TERMS OF GRANT WRITING AND HAVE IT THAT KIND OF PROPORTION OUT BASED ON WHAT WOULD OCCUR IN ANY GIVEN FISCAL YEAR RATHER THAN AN FT, AN F T E DEDICATED TO THAT, IT PROBABLY WOULD BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE AT LEAST OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN I ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS? YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO ON THE, SPEAKING TO THE GRANT WRITER PIECE OF THINGS, UM, ARE WE UTILIZING OUR, UM, I L A WITH CAP METRO AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION GRANTS, LOOKING FOR THOSE GRANTS, WRITING THE GRANTS? BECAUSE THAT'S, I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR IT. 
          SO ARE WE, HOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING? SO THAT, THAT IS THE REASON WE'RE DOING THE 180 3 CORRIDOR STUDY AND THE REASON WE'RE DOING THE OLD TOWN STUDY, RIGHT? BUT THOSE WERE AGREED, BUT THOSE WERE THINGS THAT LAND HAD ALREADY PLANNED ON. 
          HOW ARE WE UTILIZING THE STAFF AT CAP METRO TO GO FIND GRANT MONEY FOR US TO USE? SO THE FIRST ONE HAS TO BE ADOPTED, THE SECOND ONE HAS TO BE COMPLETED UNDER THE F T A PARADIGM. 
          YOU NEED TO HAVE, THOSE PROJECTS NEED TO BE 
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EFFECTIVELY CLOSER TO SHOVEL READY. 
          SO YOU CAN'T DO PRE, YOU CAN DO PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING ON SOME OF THAT, BUT THIS IS REALLY THE PLANNING STUDY. 
          THEY'RE NOT RIPE TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE CURRENT PROCESS FOR RECEIVING FUNDS. 
          WELL, NO, THAT, I GUESS, LET ME REPHRASE. 
          SO I KNOW THE 180 3 STUDY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE UTILIZING THAT AGREEMENT FOR THAT. 
          BUT I GUESS FOR, ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE NOT THROUGH F NOT THROUGH, NOT THROUGH F T A, HAVING DONE, HAVING DONE THAT FOR 15 PLUS YEARS BETWEEN H J A C AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A, SO INCLUDED WITHIN, AT LEAST I BELIEVE THE, UH, 180 3 STUDY, IT HAS WHAT'S KNOWN AS A LETTER OF NO PREJUDICE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT IS PRE-WAR AUTHORITY AND A CATEGORICAL EXCLUSION. 
          SO YOU NEED TO GET TO A CERTAIN LEVEL OF APPROVABLE DOCUMENTS THROUGH THE F D A REGION OFFICE ONCE YOU HAVE THAT, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT 180 3 STUDY PREDICATES EVERYTHING A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE DOING IT. 
          AND THAT IT'S EMBEDDED WITHIN THE R F I AND THE DESCRIPTION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT THAT BECOMES YOUR TEMPLATE FOR PHASING AND PURSUIT OF FEDERAL FUNDS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND YOU, AND WE SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED IN THAT, IN THAT R F OR R F Q, THAT THEY WOULD ALSO TAKE, THAT TEAM WOULD TAKE THE OLD TOWN PLAN AND MESH IT TOGETHER AS ONE FEASIBLE IMPLEMENTABLE PROJECT WITH ALL OF THAT CONNECTIVITY. 
          SO THEN YOU'D BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH FOR FUNDS THROUGH CAMPO, THROUGH F T A, THROUGH CONGRESSIONAL, UH, ANNUAL APPROPRIATION, DISCRETIONARY CALLS FOR PROJECTS AND THROUGH OMNIBUS, UH, TRANSPORTATION BILL, UH, PROCESSES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND THEN WE COULD UTILIZE AND WORK WITH, IT MAKES THE UMBRELLA BROADER. 
          WELL, IT, IT MAKES IT ELIGIBLE BECAUSE BY VIRTUE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT YOU WOULD HAVE AND THE LETTER OF NO PREJUDICE PRE-AWARD AUTHORITY, YOU, YOU EFFECTIVELY WOULD EVEN BE ABLE TO, LET'S SAY WE SPENT SOMETHING IN OUR C I P WITH LOCAL FUNDS OR B C T FUNDS IN THAT TIMEFRAME THAT ACTUALLY BANKS MATCH. 
          SO LATER, IF WE RECEIVE A GRANT, IT'S ALREADY MATCHED. 
          SO EVEN IF LOCAL FUNDS ARE EXPENDED IN NORTHLINE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THAT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN THE, THE LARGER PROJECT, IT WOULD ALREADY BE MATCHED. 
          IT'S ALREADY FEDERALIZED IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS. 
          AND THAT IS YOUR TEMPLATE. 
          SO I CAN, I CAN SAY THIS, HAVING, HAVING DONE THAT AND HAVING ALSO WALKED THE HALLS IN CONGRESS DURING THOSE CYCLES AND WORKING WITH CHIEFS OF STAFF AND THE TRANSPORTATION FOLKS FOR DIFFERENT CONGRESSIONAL OFFICES, UH, BACK WHEN EARMARKS EXISTED, UNTIL YOU GET TO THAT POINT, YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN FUND. 
          ONCE YOU GET TO THAT POINT, YOU JUMP WAY AHEAD OF ALL THE COMPETITORS BECAUSE THOSE PREQUALIFICATIONS MEAN THAT, THAT F T A, THEY'RE GONNA LEAN ON F T A REGIONAL STAFF. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO, LET'S SAY IN AN ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS, THE FIRST THING, FIRST THING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN THEY RECEIVE THOSE, THOSE OFFICES ARE GONNA CALL BACK AND CHECK WITH F T A AND SAY, HEY, THEY SUBMITTED THIS, AND THEY SAY THEY'VE GOT THIS APPROVAL. 
          SO THAT PUTS YOU WAY AHEAD OF EVEN OTHER TRANSIT ENTITIES STATEWIDE AND NATIONWIDE. 
          SO THAT IS THE INTENT. 
          SURE. 
          WE'RE KEEPING OUR EYE ON THAT BALL. 
          AND THE SECOND THING, OBVIOUSLY, THE RED ON THIS PAGE IS TAKE, IS THE CHAMBER FUNDS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO HOW HAS THAT, 'CAUSE I, I'M HEARING BITS AND PIECES, BUT I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY HEARD IT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH. 
            IS, UM, WHAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME FUNDING FOR THE CHAMBER FOR THE LAST 15, 20 YEARS THAT WE'RE PULLING OUT OF THIS BUDGET AND ALSO KNOW THAT THEY'VE USED THAT MONEY TO BUDGET FOR OTHER THINGS. 
          SO, AND THIS IS THE, THE GALA AND ALL THE THINGS THAT THE CITY AND THE CHAMBER HAVE DONE TOGETHER. 
          SO HOW, I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST HISTORY. 
          IT DOESN'T SIT REAL WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO I JUST WANT TO, WELL, I, I KNOW THE HISTORY, UH, AND IT GOES BACK. 
          SO, UM, UM, UH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT THAT THE, UH, CITY, UM, FOR YEARS IT PREDATES ME, UM, WHICH IS A LONG TIME. 
          UH, BUT THAT THE CITY HAD A, A CONTRACT WITH THE CHAMBER OF CONVERSE FOR $15,000 A YEAR TO PROVIDE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THE, THE, THE CHAMBER DOES THAT BENEFITS THE CITY, INCLUDING, UH, TOURISM. 
          THEN IN 2018, WHEN, UM, WHEN THE HOTEL WAS, UM, UH, UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UH, 
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THE, UH, CITY, UH, CITY STAFF, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THE CHAMBER DIRECTOR GOT TOGETHER. 
          AND, AND THEN I BECAME PART OF THAT, UH, NEGOTIATION OF THE, THE, THE CHAMBER AGREEMENT FOR HO THE USE OF HOTEL OCCUPANCY FUNDS. 
          AND, UM, THAT DOCUMENT COMPLETELY REPLACED THE PRIOR AGREEMENT. 
          SO THE, AND THE $15,000 WAS TO SUPPORT, UM, TOURISM, UH, AS ONE OF ITS FUNCTIONS IN THE, IN, IN THE, UM, UM, IN THE, IN THE OLD AGREEMENT. 
          SO THE NEW AGREEMENT REPLACED THAT, AND IT WAS SPECIFICALLY, WELL, LET ME BACK UP. 
          THE CITY CAN ONLY CONTRACT WITH OUTSIDE AGENCIES TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT IT OTHERWISE WOULD A, BE ABLE TO DO ITSELF. 
          AND SO, UM, THE $15,000 WAY TO SUPPORT THE CHAMBER WAS REALLY TO SUPPORT THE CHAMBER IN THE PROMOTION OF LEANDER AS A, AS A DESTINATION AND, AND, AND TOURISM. 
          NOW, UM,  WHEN, UH, LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE SETTING UP THE ANNUAL PAYMENTS, I WENT TO FIND THAT OLD AGREEMENT. 
          'CAUSE I HAD FORGOTTEN THAT THE NEW ONE HAD REPLACED IT. 
          AND SO I SPOKE WITH AND I COULDN'T FIND IT, AND THEN I REALIZED WHAT HAD HAPPENED, AND I CALLED THE, THE DIRECTOR AND, AND SHE REMEMBERED THE SAME THING. 
          AND SO WHAT WE AGREED TO DO THIS PAST YEAR WAS THAT THEY WOULD PREPARE AN INVOICE TO THE CITY THAT ITEMIZED ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE BENEFIT FROM THROUGH OUR OLD AGREEMENT. 
          WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THAT AGREEMENT ANYMORE. 
          SO, UM, AND, UH, FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN THAT THEY DON'T CHARGE US FOR, AND, AND, UH, THEN TO MAKE IT EQUAL $15,000, THERE WAS A CREDIT THAT THE CHAMBER PUT ON THE INVOICE. 
          AND SO THAT'S FOR DOCUMENTATION PURPOSES ON, THAT'S HOW WE PAID THIS PAST YEAR. 
          SO WHAT THIS BUDGET, UH, WOULD DO IS WE, WE REACHED OUT TO THE CHAMBER A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND GONE AND SAID, WHAT'S THE TOP TIER MEMBERSHIP? JUST WITHOUT ANY AGREEMENT, WITHOUT ANY KIND OF DELIVERABLES, UM, DELIVERABLES OR, OR KIND OF, UH, UM, INVOICE MADE UP JUST FOR THE CITY. 
          WHAT IS YOUR TOP TIER MEMBERSHIP? AND UH, THEY CAME, THEY TOLD US IT'S $4,000 A YEAR. 
          NOW, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR, UM, UM, RANDALL, BUT, UH, I, I DID, WE DID ASK HIM SINCE HE WAS HAVING A MEETING WITH, WITH BRIDGETTE TO TALK ABOUT HOW THAT MIGHT WORK. 
          AND, UM, I'M GONNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR YOU AND I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SPEAK FOR YOU. 
          SO IF YOU CAN KIND OF TELL HER, TELL THE GROUP. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          UH, VERY PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION. 
          UM, IN THE LAST, UH, UH, WEEK OR TWO ON THE MEMBERSHIP, UH, STRUCTURE, UH, WITH THE TOP TIER MEMBERSHIP BEING, UM, $4,000 VERSUS THE 15,000, UM, WE'VE BEEN PAYING ANNUALLY THAT 15,000 IS, UH, MR. POWERS ALLUDED TO, UH, GETS US, UM, A TABLE AT THE, AT THE GALA OF SOME VARIOUS, UH, BENEFITS WITH THE, UM, CHAMBER, UH, EXPO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT, THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE, HAVE UTILIZED IN THE PAST AS WELL AS THE, THE LUNCHEON IS, IS MY UNDERSTANDING, THE THE 4,000 WOULD NECESSARILY GET THAT, THAT LEVEL. 
          SO WE WOULD PAY THOSE SEPARATELY AS EACH, EACH DEPARTMENT AS THEY, THEY UTILIZE THOSE. 
          SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS FROM THE CHAMBER'S POSITION, WE WOULD STILL, IF, IF WE CONTINUED TO USE AT, AT THAT, AT THE LEVEL THAT WE DID LAST YEAR, WE WOULD STILL PROBABLY HIT THAT CLOSE TO THAT 15,000 MARK. 
          IT WOULD JUST COME OUT OF DIFFERENT FUNDS, EACH OF THE, EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LAST QUESTION. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW WITH THE PARTNERSHIP, RIGHT, AND I GUESS TO WHAT YOU ALLUDED TO, SO SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS ACTUALLY ON THE BOARD OF THE CHAMBER, THERE WAS, UM, WE CREATED THE VISITOR SEARCH BUREAU. 
          SO THERE'S TWO SETS OF BOOKS, THERE'S TWO SETS OF EVERYTHING. 
          AND SO THAT THE, UM, AND IT'S, I MEAN, I GUESS IF IT'S FINE IF IT'S A LINE ITEM BILL, BUT THAT, THAT 15,000 WAS FOR THE CHAMBER AND THE THINGS THAT, UM, TO HELP FUND 'CAUSE THE, THE CHAMBER, AND IT'S KIND OF CONVOLUTED AT THIS POINT, BUT LIKE THE OLD TOWN STREET FESTIVAL, THE CHRISTMAS STREET FESTIVAL, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE TOURISM THINGS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH HOT FUNDS TO COVER THAT NOW ANYWAY. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE FUNDRAISING THINGS THAT 
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THE CHAMBER IS DOING TO BE ABLE TO OFFSET. 
          AND I GUESS BECAUSE IT, IT'S, AND IT MAY HAVE TO BE THIS WAY, BUT IT'S BECOMING MORE OF AN ARM'S LENGTH AGREEMENT AND MORE FORMAL THAN IT HAS BEEN. 
          AND BECAUSE THE CITY'S GETTING BIGGER, IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE. 
          BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF THE, AND I'M, AND I, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE CHAMBER, THIS IS JUST THOUGHTS RUNNING THROUGH MY HEAD, BUT IF IT GETS TO A POINT WHERE THE CHAMBER, BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE A DIFFERENT FOCUS, DECIDES THAT IT'S NO LONGER GOING TO USE OLD TOWN STREET FESTIVAL AND THE CHRISTMAS THING AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOW HEAVILY DONE BY THE CHAMBER AND SUPPLEMENTED BY THE CITY, ARE, ARE WE AS A CITY OKAY WITH WALKING AWAY FROM THOSE THINGS? OR IS MARK'S GROUP IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO PICK THOSE THINGS UP? AND IF THE BULK OF THAT ENDEAVOR NEEDS TO FALL HERE, IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE THEM? I'VE BEEN SHUT, I'VE BEEN SHUT DOWN BY THE, UH, I'LL, I'LL GIVE THIS RIGHT BACK. 
          ROBERT CAN ADDRESS THE, THE, THE C V B PIECE VERSUS THE CHAMBER MEMBERSHIP PIECE IN TERMS OF THE AGREEMENTS. 
          AND I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT ALSO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THE LONG RANGE PLAN AS WELL WITH THE C V B GOING THROUGH THE HOTEL STUDY, BRYSON, ALL OF THAT FITS IN THE ONE, THE ONE QUALIFICATION I WILL SAY. 
          AND, AND I, EVERYWHERE ELSE I'VE BEEN, IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY WHERE IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A MEMBERSHIP LEVEL AND DELIVERABLES IN TERMS OF AUDITS AND EVERYTHING, THAT IS, WE, WE CAN'T SIMPLY FUND THEM OUT OF, OUT OF, I GUESS, GOODWILL. 
          NO, AND YOU SHOULDN'T AND, AND THAT'S NOT MY POINT. 
          BUT, AND I WILL SAY, I KNOW WE'RE GETTING OFF TOPIC, SO LET'S FOCUS BACK ON THE BUDGET, BUT JUST, THESE ARE THINGS THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT AND I WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE, BUT I KNOW THIS IS NOT THE CONVERSATION TO DO IT IN. 
          SO LET'S, WE'LL KEEP MOVING WITH THAT. 
          ONE THING WE DO NEED TO REVISIT AT SOME POINT SOON WOULD ALSO BE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE STREET FESTIVAL, WHEN WE LOOK AT CHRISTMAS, CURRENTLY THE CITY IS COVERING THE, YOU KNOW, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COSTS AND, AND, AND ALL OF THAT TOO AS WELL. 
          STREET CLOSURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE NEED TO, IN TERMS OF PAYING OVERTIME AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE DO, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA, WELL, AND I HAVE SOME INFORMATION FOR YOU ON THAT TOO, THAT I WAS GONNA GIVE YOU LATER TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, AND, AND I APPRECIATE THOSE QUESTIONS AND I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, HIGHLIGHTING IT. 
          I DO WANNA STRESS THAT IN NO WAY WAS THIS A BUDGET CUTTING DECISION. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS MORE, UH, SOLELY A RECOMMENDATION TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UP AND UP AND SQUARE WITH THE RELATIONSHIP AND WHAT THOSE FUNDS ARE FOR SO THAT WE DON'T RUN A FOUL WITH ANY, UM, UH, LEGAL QUESTION. 
          BUT ALSO, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME AS WE ADMINISTER, YOU KNOW, FINANCES, UH, OTHERS OUTSIDE AND INSIDE KNOW WHAT WE DO. 
          AND SO IT, BY MAKING THIS NOT A, WELL, YOU DO IT FOR THE CHAMBER, WHY CAN'T YOU DO IT FOR THE BOY SCOUTS KIND OF THING. 
          SO WE CAN, WE CAN GET TO THE SAME POINT, UH, IN, IN VARIOUS DIRECTIONS. 
          BUT, UM, WHAT IS PROPOSED IS A KIND OF A POINT A TO B NO QUESTIONS ASKED. 
          IT'S, IT'S THE CHAMBER, IT'S THE CITY'S MEMBERSHIP, OTHERS PAY 4,000, BUT IT CAN CERTAINLY BE REWORKED. 
          HOWEVER, UM, COUNSEL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          UH, THE, THE NEXT ITEM IS, IS, IS, UM, A RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, THIS IS BIGGER THAN THIS ONE ITEM, UH, UH, SAYS ON PAPER THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO CH TO CHANGE THE FUNDING FORMULA FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION. 
          RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A, AN, AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS ADOPTED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO AND THEN, UH, AMENDED THAT IN TERMS OF THE FUNDING PORTION CREATES KIND OF A CUMBERSOME PERCENTAGE OF MUNICIPAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. 
          UH, ONCE THOSE ARE BID AND AWARDED A PER A, A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF OF THAT AMOUNT GOES INTO THE ARTS FUND. 
          THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN HERE KNOW THAT THAT'S ERRATIC AND HARD TO PLAN, PLAN AROUND. 
          UM, SO THIS RECOMMENDATION, AND I THINK THIS IS CERTAINLY MORE DISCUSSION 
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BETWEEN, UM, THE GROUP HERE, BUT THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE, THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND WOULD BUDGET A CERTAIN AMOUNT EACH YEAR AND WE'RE PROPOSING $25,000 THAT WOULD THEN FUND, WHICH WOULD GO TO THE ARTS FUND FUND 10. 
          UM, AND THAT WOULD BE, UM, MONEY USED FOR THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR CELEBRATION AND THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION. 
          UH, AND, AND THAT THOSE SPECIFIC DOLLARS WOULD NOT BE BUDGETED IN THE PARKS, UH, BUDGET AND PARKS DEPARTMENT, UM, PERSONNEL STILL WOULD BE TO SUPPORT THOSE TWO PROGRAMS. THE OTHER CHANGE THERE ON THOSE, THOSE TWO SPECIAL EVENTS WOULD BE THAT THE REVENUES FROM THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS, WHETHER IT BE UM, VENDOR BOOTHS, CONCESSIONS, DONATIONS, THOSE REVENUES FOR THOSE EVENTS WOULD STAY IN FUND 10. 
          AND THAT WOULD GREATLY, I SHOULDN'T SAY GREATLY, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, BUT IT WOULD ENHANCE THE, THE BUDGET AND THE FLEXIBILITY FOR THE COMMISSION WORKING WITH THE, UH, PARKS DEPARTMENT TO NOT ONLY EXPAND THOSE TWO EVENTS, BUT TO CREATE NEW EVENTS. 
          SO, UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A CUMBERSOME FUNDING FORMULA, AND THIS IS MEANT TO BE, UM, MORE STREAMLINED AND EACH YEAR THE COUNCIL CAN DECIDE WHAT THE AMOUNT SHOULD BE AND, UM, AND THEN IT'S UNRESTRICTED ONCE IT GOES FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE ARTS COMMISSION. 
          THANK YOU, MR. POWERS. 
          UM, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT WE NEED TO FIX THE FUNDING FOR THAT. 
          UM, 'CAUSE IT IS AWKWARD, BUT I THINK, UM, BEFORE WE MAKE ANY BIG ADJUSTMENTS, COUNSEL SHOULD PROBABLY SEE IF THIS IS GONNA BE FUNDING THOSE, UH, EVENTS. 
          WE SHOULD PROBABLY SEE WHAT THOSE BUDGETS ARE AND HOW THIS MATCHES UP WITH THEM. 
          UM, AND THEN I JUST HAD A QUESTION BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS SLIDE, IT SHOWS THE DEPARTMENT AND THE REQUEST FOR THE CHANGE AND THEN THE RANK, WHICH IS THE, THE ORDER OF IMPORTANCE, I BELIEVE, RIGHT. 
          THAT THAT DEPARTMENT SUBMITTED. 
          AND THIS ONE IS, UM, FOR CITY COUNCIL, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST WE'RE HEARING OF IT AND IT'S RANK NUMBER TWO. 
          AND SO THAT'S TYPO. 
          HOPING YOU COULD TELL US HOW THAT WORKS. 
          UH, THAT'S A, A TYPO. 
          IT'S A CUT AND PASTE. 
          OH, ERROR ON THE, THE SAME THING. 
          YEAH. 
          I WAS WONDERING WHAT OUR NUMBER ONE IS. 
          YEAH, , I'LL, UH, I'LL TALK TO MYSELF AFTER THE MEETING AND GET THAT, UH, GET THAT CORRECTED. 
          SO THANK YOU  TO BE, TO BE DETERMINED. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          UM, AND, AND, UM, THIS WAS LISTED IN AS IN THE CITY COUNCIL DEPARTMENT AS OPPOSED TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A COMBINATION OF A DISCUSSION OF, UM, OF, UH, STAFF AND, AND PARKS. 
          AND THE REASON I PUT IT IN THE COUNCIL, 'CAUSE I, I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IT FOR THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT IS, UH, DEFINITELY A COUNCIL. 
          UM, WE NEED, WE OBVIOUSLY WE NEED YOU TO AGREE ON EVERYTHING IN, IN THE BUDGET, BUT THIS IS ONE THAT IS, UH, NEEDS Y'ALL'S DIRECTION AND, AND THAT'S WHY I CHANGED IT FROM THE PARTS DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, AND IT REALLY, UM, SO, UM, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE AFFECTED ANY OTHER PRIORITY RANKINGS. 
          AND, UH, MAYOR, I'VE GOT A PLAN FOR ACTION ON THIS ONE. 
          I I CAN, UM, WE'VE GOT THE INFORMATION, WE'VE GOT THE ITEMIZED BREAKDOWN OF BOTH EVENT BUDGETS, SO WE'LL, UH, WE'LL PROVIDE A FOLLOW UP TO COUNSEL. 
          THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND ONE LAST QUESTION, THAT'S ISH BUDGET, BUT, UM, WITH THOSE FUNDS AND THOSE EVENTS, 'CAUSE I, I MEAN, I, IT'S TRUE THEY NEED, THE EVENTS NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS AVAILABLE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT THE COMMITTEE THAT'S MAKING THE DECISION. 
          LIKE THERE'S SOME SORT OF STAFF CHECKS AND BALANCES ON HOW THAT MONEY IS SPENT. 
          UM, AND, AND MARK, YOU CAN CHIME IN AS WELL, BUT BASICALLY THIS IS MEANT TO PROVIDE SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THE ARTS FUND. 
          IT DOESN'T, NOT GONNA CHANGE THE RELATIONSHIP THAT PARKS HAS WITH THE COMMISSION OR HOW THEY, UH, MAKE DECISIONS REGARDING THESE TWO EVENTS OR OTHER EVENTS. 
          BUT, UM, CERTAINLY THIS ALLOWS US FROM THE ACCOUNTING SIDE TO, TO ALLOW ANY ADDITIONAL MONIES THROUGH SPONSORSHIPS, UH, THROUGH REVENUES GAINED THROUGH THESE EVENTS, TO, TO CYCLE BACK TO THE ARTS FUND AND KIND OF GIVE THAT A HEALTHY BALANCE. 
          AND I THINK SOME OF THAT IS GONNA COME OUT OF OUR, UM, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          WHEN WE MET A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THAT WAS A 
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BIG PART OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS, IS HOW WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE COMMITTEES TO DO THESE THINGS AND NOT STEP ON EACH OTHER'S FEET AND KEEP EVERYTHING AT THE LEVEL WE EXPECT OF CITY EVENTS. 
          CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT, I KNOW WHEN WE MET BEFORE THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, HOT FUNDS BEING USED OR THAT IT WAS PART OF THE OLD ORDINANCE. 
          SO IS IT BEING SUGGESTED THAT THIS FUNDING WOULD REPLACE ALL OF THAT, OR IT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO, OR IS THAT STILL BEING WORKED OUT? IT, IT WOULD, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE IN ADDITION TO ANY, UM, HOT FUNDS THAT WOULD BE DEEMED ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE, UM, EVENTS. 
          UM, THAT'S GOOD, GOOD CLARIFICATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I WON'T, I WON'T GO OVER ALL OF THE OTHER LINE ITEMS, BUT, UH, DRAW ATTENTION TO THE OTHER STAR. 
          IT SAYS CONVERT TWO PART-TIME POSITIONS TO ONE FULL-TIME THAT'S IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT'S, UH, UH, A POSITION CHANGED TO, UH, TAKING TWO PART-TIME ATHLETIC ATTENDANTS TO ONE FULL-TIME ATTENDANT. 
          AND THEN THE LAST LINE UNDER NON-DEPARTMENTAL IS THE, UH, THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION TO, UM, CHANGE THE, UM, HEALTH INSURANCE, UH, PLAN THAT THE CITY EMPLOYEES ARE UNDER AND, UH, LOWER THE DEDUCTIBLE FROM $2,500 A YEAR TO $1,500, UH, A YEAR. 
          AND THAT CHANGE WOULD, IF APPROVED BY COUNSEL, WOULD GO INTO EFFECT JANUARY ONE. 
          SO, I'M SORRY, IS THAT PER PERSON OR PER FAMILY? LIKE IS THAT INDIVIDUAL OR IN INDIVIDUAL, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          FAMILY'S, BUT AT LEAST IT'S NOT RIGHT. 
          WHAT'S THE FAMILY DEDUCTIBLE? I THINK IT GOES FROM, UH, WE'LL CONFIRM. 
          I THINK IT MAY GO FROM 12 TO 10 HAVING HIT THE FAMILY DEDUCTIBLE LIKE THREE YEARS IN A ROW. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I WILL, I I THINK IT IS IN THAT, THAT RANGE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THE, THE P P O AND THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN ARE ALMO ARE THE SAME. 
          AND SO THIS WILL REDUCE THE P P O. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THE, THE PREVIOUS LIST WAS WERE, UH, SUPPLEMENTS THAT WE CALL RECURRING, MEANING THAT IF THEY'RE APPROVED, UH, THEY WOULD, UM, UH, BE INCLUDED IN, IN SUBSEQUENT, UH, BUDGETS. 
          THE NEXT LIST IS ONE-TIME SUPPLEMENTS, AND THESE ARE CAPITAL ITEMS OR ONE-TIME PURCHASES THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN EACH YEAR. 
          UH, IN YEARS PAST THIS LIST HAS BEEN, UH, QUITE A BIT LONGER, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME FUNDS THAT WE, UH, WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. 
          SO THIS IS A SHORT, OR THIS IS A SHORTENED LIST OF, UM, ONE-TIME SUPPLEMENTS RECOMMENDED IN THE BUDGET THAT, UM, ARE COMING FROM, UM, SURPLUS RESERVES ESTIMATED AT, AT THE END OF, OF THE YEAR. 
          SO, UM, JUST DRAW YOUR ATTENTION, UH, TO THE, THE TOP LINE. 
          WE, WE DO HAVE, UH, A PLACEHOLDER IN THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET, UM, OF $207,000, 6 0 8. 
          UM, THAT IS SO SPECIFIC BECAUSE IT IS A PLACEHOLDER TO BALANCE THE BUDGET THAT IT'S THE AMOUNT OF REVENUES THAT EXCEED THE, UM, REST OF THE BUDGET. 
          AND SO, UH, THAT CAN EITHER STAY THERE TO HAVE SOME CONTINGENCY FUNDS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR OR, UM, AS YOU WORK THROUGH THE BUDGET BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER, UH, THAT'S A SOURCE FOR, UH, SOMETHING ELSE THAT, THAT MAY COME UP. 
          UH, ALSO IN THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET, UH, WOULD BE A, AN EFFICIENCY STUDY FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND AN ESTIMATE TO, UM, FOR DEMOLITION OF THE DAVIS HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET. 
          WE HAVE SOME, UH, IF ANYTHING DRAWS YOUR ATTENTION TO, UH, ON ANY OF THOSE, I'D BE HAPPY TO ADD, ASK THE DEPARTMENTS TO DRILL DOWN ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE, UM, AND THE OTHER, UM, OTHER FUNDS, THE GENERAL C I P, THAT'S THE GENERAL, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND THAT IS FUNDED WITH THE, UH, RESERVES FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UH, 
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IT DOESN'T, UM, IT'S NOT TIED TO ANY, UH, DEBT ISSUANCE OR, SO IT'S, UM, LESS RESTRICTED, THE SURPLUS FROM END OF YEAR LAST YEAR F Y 22. 
          UM, WE'RE RECOMMENDING $2.5 MILLION GO TO, UH, THE, THE C I P UH, PROGRAM THAT, THAT DAN AND HIS TEAM WILL, WILL TALK ABOUT. 
          AND THE GOLF FUND. 
          WE HAVE, UH, THREE SUPPLEMENTS RECOMMENDED, UH, IN THEIR BUDGET, UM, TOO FOR, UH, THE EQUIPMENT AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL, UH, PRO SHOP ATTENDANCE. 
          UM, IF YOU RECALL EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE GOLF COURSE REQUESTED SOME SUPPLEMENTAL STAFFING DUE TO THE LEVEL OF VOLUME OF, OF PLAY. 
          AND THEY, AT THEIR REQUEST WAS TO, FOR COUNSEL, WHICH YOU DID APPROVE A COUPLE OF PART-TIME POSITIONS THIS YEAR, BUT THEY ALSO WERE ASKING THAT IN OCTOBER, ANOTHER TWO POSITIONS PART-TIME BE, BE APPROVED, UH, IN THE, UM, PUBLIC WORKS. 
          THAT'S THE WATER AND WASTEWATER, UH, DEPARTMENT AND, UM, COUPLE OF POSITIONS AND EQUIPMENT IN THAT FUND. 
          UM, THE NEXT IS, UH, MM-HMM. 
          I'M SORRY, REALLY QUICK. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , YOU WENT THROUGH THAT LAST PART FAST. 
          UM, ARE THESE LAST TWO ON HERE FOR EXPANDING, UM, MR. TEETER'S WORK? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO, UM, THE LAST ONE ON THERE IS, UM, MORE OF A, A TITLE CHANGE FOR HIM AS A, AS A MANAGER SINCE HE'S BEEN HANDLING OUR, COVERING OUR BACKFLOW UNTIL WE CAN BACKFILL THAT POSITION. 
          SO THE THOUGHT IS, ONCE WE HIRE FOR THAT POSITION, HE WOULD OVERSEE, YOU KNOW, HIS DUTIES PLUS THEIR DUTIES. 
          UM, AND THEN THE ONE ABOVE THAT IS, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, SUPPORT NEXT SUMMER FOR US TO HAVE PART-TIME, UH, ENFORCEMENT STAFF SO WE DON'T TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF LOAD OFF CODE ENFORCEMENT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THE DRIVING AROUND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT KIND OF THING. 
          SO THESE WOULD BE, UH, PART-TIME FOLKS THAT WOULD COME IN, UM, AND HELP US WITH OUR ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS. 
          OKAY. 
          ONLY WHEN WE HAVE, UM, HIGHER CONSERVATION PHASES, I THINK ALL THE TIME, ALL THE, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO NEXT SUMMER, LIKE WE TALK ABOUT, IS GONNA BE PRETTY TRICKY FOR US. 
          SO, UM, GET MAKING SURE THAT THAT ONE TIME A WEEK IS BEING FOLLOWED IS GONNA BE PRETTY CRITICAL FOR US. 
          AND GINA, I THINK, ISN'T THE, THE VEHICLE INCLUDED AND THERE'S A VEHICLE, I'M SORRY, THAT'S RIGHT ON THE LAST ONE, UM, IN THAT LAST ONE. 
          UM, SO WE'RE GONNA GET A, A VEHICLE FOR THAT KIND OF TEAM OF TWO FOR THE BACKFLOW, AND THEN BILL'S CURRENT POSITION. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHY IT'S SO MUCH . 
          AND, AND, AND I WAS GONNA ADD TO, TO GINA'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE COMPLIANCE ENFORCEMENT. 
          UM, WHEN WE HAD THE STAGED REPAIR, THE PHASE ONE D RAW WATERLINE, UM, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM DID WORK WITH UTILITY BILLING AND PUBLIC WORKS TO DO NEARLY ROUND THE CLOCK, UH, ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND, AND WE REALIZED WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME THAT IT, IT WASN'T GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT EXISTING STAFF COULD DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT, ESPECIALLY OVER THE HOT SUMMER PERIODS. 
          SO THIS WAS, UH, SOMETHING WE, UM, ARE PROPOSING AND WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT THE DETAILS, BUT, BUT IDEALLY WE WOULD ESTABLISH A CONTRACT GOING INTO THE NEXT SPRING TO HAVE A TEAM, UH, DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OR EXACTLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE YET, BUT TO HAVE A TEAM BASICALLY DO WHAT OUR, UH, WHAT OUR STAFF HAD DONE DURING THAT TIME PERIOD WHERE WE ARE ACTUALLY WITH EYES, UH, ONSITE IN DIFFERENT, UH, AREAS OF THE CITY THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, OBSERVING POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS AND THEN PROVIDING THAT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT TO THEN EXECUTE, UM, DELIVERY OF, OF WARNINGS OR NOTIFICATIONS OR EDUCATION. 
          SO DURING THE DAYTIME FIRST, YEAH. 
          UM, VERY PRELIMINARY, WE WANT TO KIND OF, IF WE CAN, WE'LL PARK THOSE FUNDS AND THEN BRING A LOT MORE DETAILS BACK TO COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, UH, I'M ALREADY WRITING NOTES. 
          I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS SOME MORE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF ALL OF THAT TOMORROW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ON, ON, ON ONE OTHER SUBJECT. 
          I KNOW WE SKIPPED OVER, UH, PD A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE WANTED TO CARRY FORWARD SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE ITEMS, UH, NOT JUST FOR C I D AND FOR OUR, UH, TRAFFIC DIVISION, BUT ALSO 'CAUSE 'CAUSE THOSE ARE MUCH NEEDED, BUT ALSO, UH, THE BALLISTIC SHIELDS AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          SO, UH, FIRST RESPONSE ON NOT SO GOOD SITUATIONS. 
          UH, I KNOW WE ALSO HAD SUPPRESSORS AND PISTOL BASED CARVINGS, UH, SHORT BARRELLED RIFLES, UH, THAT WERE IN NINE. 
          SO, UH, THE, SOME OF THOSE ITEMS WE CAN LOOK AT TOO. 
          I DON'T THINK YOU'D, YOU'D HAVE A SCENARIO JUST IN MY MIND THAT YOU'D HAVE EVERYBODY EQUIPPED WITH THAT, GIVEN THAT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE USING A, YOU KNOW, A GLOCK BASED, UH, NINE SIDEARM AND THEY HAVE THE PATROL RIFLES, WHICH ARE 5, 5 6. 
          UH, BUT I DO THINK SPECIAL UNITS ALSO FIRST RESPONSE TACTICAL UNITS WOULD NEED TO HAVE THOSE THINGS UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. 
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SO ANYTHING THAT WE HAVEN'T COVERED, LET'S SAY A LIMITED NUMBER OF SUPPRESSORS, UH, OR PISTOL BASED, UH, SHORT BARRELED RIFLES OR CARVINGS, I THINK WE COULD, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT EVEN AS A MID-YEAR OR OUT OF PART OF THE CONTINGENCY AS WELL, DEPENDING ON WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE EQUIPPED, BUT I, I DON'T COME FROM THE SCHOOL OF THOUGHT THAT EVERY SINGLE, EVERY SINGLE, UH, SWORN IS, IS GOING TO BE THAT SPECIAL OPERATIONS UNIT. 
          THEY DO HAVE CARBINES, THEY DO HAVE THEIR SIDEARM, BUT SOME OF THE MORE SPECIFIC, UH, ITEMS WOULD BE APPLICABLE IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE A BARRICADED SUSPECT HOSTAGE SITUATION, SO FORTH. 
          AND, UH, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THE BARCA IN THERE, AND IN A PERFECT WORLD THAT'D BE THERE TOO. 
          BUT THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF BUDGET BASED. 
          WE MAY HAVE TO AMRAP IT ONE MORE YEAR, AND WE DO HAVE MORE LIMITATIONS ON WHAT WE CAN DO WITH AN MRAP NOW, UM, IN PART BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL RULES, THEY KIND OF WANT LESS MILITARIZATION OF USE OF THOSE. 
          SO I, I KNOW THAT DAVID AND CHIEF ARE PROBABLY IN THAT LOOP AND BILLY AS WELL. 
          SO, UH, IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ANYTHING THEN, AND I KNOW THAT AT ONE POINT YOU WERE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS LOW ON THE LIST, IF EVERYBODY HAD A SUPPRESSOR AND EVERYBODY HAD A SHORT BARRELED RIFLE, THEN EVERYBODY BE SPECIAL FORCES. 
          BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT, AT A REALISTIC LEVEL OF FUNDING OF THOSE, EVEN IF IT'S AT MIDYEAR TO IT. 
          BUT, UH, WE DO HAVE A GRANT THAT'S, WE WERE, UH, AWARDED FOR 42 SHIELDS, SO WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR, UH, THOSE TO COME IN. 
          SO THOSE THAT'LL ALSO HELP TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ONE IN EVERY VEHICLE JUST AFTER YOU'VE ALL DAY, YOU KNOW, THINGS KIND OF CHANGED. 
          AND SAME THING WHERE WITH THE RIFLES WE HAVE NOW, WE DO HAVE CAR BEINGS. 
          EVERY, EVERY OFFICER HAS A PATROL RIFLE. 
          UH, THE REASON WE EVEN LOOKED AT SUPPRESSORS WAS LOOKING AT GOING FROM THE TYPICAL 16 INCH PATROL RIFLE TO THE 14 INCH, AND YOU PUT A, WE CALL A CAN ON IT BECAUSE WHEN THEY'RE SHOOTING AROUND EACH OTHER, IT'S LOUD. 
          SO THESE WITH SUPPRESSORS ON 'EM, IT JUST MAKES IT QUIETER IN HOUSES OR SCHOOLS OR WHEREVER YOU HAVE TO GO. 
          BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, I WOULD SAY MORE OF A, A WANT THAN A NEED, UH, BECAUSE WE, WE, WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF, OF HANDLING OUR BUSINESS WHEN IT'S TIME TO, THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. 
          JUST WHEN THEY TRAIN AND THEY STACK UP AND THEY'RE SHOOTING OVER EACH OTHER'S HEADS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CANS ARE NICE TO HAVE INDOORS. 
          INDOORS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I CAN JUST ADD THAT IF IT, SOMEONE HASN'T SHOT INDOORS, UM, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH THE CENTER FIRE, IT'S, IT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL. 
          IT'S LOUD. 
          SO, UM, THE, UH, THE REQUESTS THAT THE, THE, THE DEPARTMENTS ASKED FOR THAT ARE, DID NOT MAKE THE CUT, UH, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT IN THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET, UH, IS A, AS USUAL, IT'S A, A LONG LIST. 
          AND, UH, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, THE, THE BUDGET WAS, UM, FAIRLY, FAIRLY TIGHT, SO, OH, I DIDN'T GO OVER THERE. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, I DON'T MEAN TO, UM, FLOSS OVER ANYTHING, BUT IT'S A LONG LIST. 
          SO I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, ON IT, WHAT IS ALBERT SECURITY NETWORK MONITORING? SOUNDS IMPORTANT. 
          THIS IS LIKE A MINI, MINI PAUL, BUT HE'LL, HE'LL IT, IT'S A, IT'S A DIGITAL PAUL, BUT, WE'LL, WE'LL LET HIM EXPLAIN. 
          WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY MORE OF A SECURITY THING AND I REALLY DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT IT IN OPEN. 
          OKAY, THAT'S FINE. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN THE, THE OTHER , UH, THE OTHER FINES, UM, I WILL, ALTHOUGH THIS IS ON THE UNFUNDED LIST FOR THE GOLF COURSE, UM, I WILL TURN THIS INTO A POSITIVE, UH, UH, FOR THE, UNTIL THE LAST YEAR OR TWO, IT, IT WASN'T EVEN A QUESTION THAT THE GOLF COURSE COULD ASK FOR ANYTHING NEW BECAUSE THEY, THEY WERE BARELY, UM, UM, PAYING, UH, UH, FOR THEIR, THROUGH THEIR, THROUGH THEIR BUDGET AND WOULD REQUIRE A, A SUBSIDY FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A REQUEST THAT THE CITY MANAGER, UH, HAS NOT APPROVED, UM, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD SIGN THAT THEY EVEN HAVE THE ABILITY TO THINK ABOUT, UH, SURPLUS UH, REVENUES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, IN THE OTHER FUNDS, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE, UH, TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, ARTS COMMISSION, UM, I MIGHT PUT MARK ON 
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THE SPOT THAT, THAT, THAT HE HAD TO PUT IN A SUPPLEMENT TO DO A, A MASTER PLAN FOR, UH, ARTS AND CULTURE. 
          IF YOU WANNA ADDRESS WHAT, WHAT THAT WAS. 
          THERE'S A, THIS IS ONE OF THE, UH, LEADING AREAS WHEN ELPAC WAS WORKING ON THEIR, UM, GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR THE NEXT YEAR. 
          THIS IS ONE OF THE TOP AREAS THAT CAME OUT THAT THEY WANT TO GO OUT WITH A A AN R F Q TO EMPLOY OR HIRE A THIRD PARTY TO COME IN AND HELP THEM WORK THROUGH A MASTER PLAN. 
          UM, UH, WE, WE, WE AGREED THAT THIS WAS A, A GOOD STEP IN THE FUTURE. 
          IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR, UH, EXISTING L P A MEMBERS TO REALLY DO THIS ON THEIR OWN. 
          THEY, THEY, THEY DID THAT BACK IN 2015, MAYBE WAS THE LAST ONE. 
          UM, AND SO NOW IT'S, IT'S REALLY AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AS A CITY, IT'S REALLY ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP. 
          UM, SO I THOUGHT, THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A, AND NOT ME, BUT ALL OF US FELT, FELT LIKE THIS WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD, UM, NEXT STEP TO TAKE. 
          AND SO, UH, WE HAD IDENTIFIED POTENTIALLY, UM, THEY HAVE A HEALTHY BALANCE IN FUND 75. 
          UM, IT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THOSE, SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS TO HELP FUND THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, . 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, IT'S PRETTY SELF EXPLANATORY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M SORRY THAT THAT WAS A GOOD EXPLANATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENS, UH, NEXT ON, UM, AT YOUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ON, ON THURSDAY, UH, YOU WILL BE PRESENTED WITH THE OFFICIAL, UH, CA UH, TAX, UH, RATE CALCULATION WORKSHEET THAT IS, IT'S, UH, UH, AN OFFICIAL STATE OF TEXAS FORM, BUT IT, IT'S PROVIDED AND, AND DONE BY THE, UH, WILLIAMSON COUNTY TAX OFFICE FOR THE TAXING ENTITIES IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY. 
          UH, SO WE'LL GET THAT AND, AND YOU'LL BE, UH, ASKED TO VOTE ON A, WHETHER, UM, UH, WHAT TAX RATE YOU WANT TO, THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE THAT YOU WANT TO CONSIDER. 
          AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, ONCE YOU SET THAT RATE AND, AND THAT RATE IS LIMITED BY THE STATE TAX LAW AND THE, AND THE WORKSHEET. 
          BUT, UM, ONCE YOU SET THAT MAXIMUM RATE AS YOU WORK THROUGH YOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND YOUR OTHER, UH, DELIBERATIONS ON THE BUDGET, YOU CAN'T GO ANY HIGHER THAN THAT. 
          YOU CAN GO LOWER, BUT YOU CAN'T GO ANY, ANY HIGHER. 
          AND, UM, THERE IS A TERM IN THE, IN THE CODE CALLED NO NEW REVENUE. 
          I WON'T GO INTO THAT FORMULA, BUT IF YOU ADOPT THAT RATE, WHICH IS, UM, AS IT MIGHT IMPLY A, A, A LOWER RATE THAN THE MAXIMUM THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER, IF YOU WOULD VOTE ON THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, THEN YOU CAN DISPENSE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          BUT, UM, UM, IF YOU VOTE ANYTHING ABOVE THE NO NEW, UH, NO NEW REVENUE, NO NEW REVENUE RATE, THEN THERE'LL BE A REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING. 
          AND, AND THEN, WHICH AT THIS POINT WOULD BE ANTICIPATED TO BE AT THE SEPTEMBER COUNCIL MEETING SEPTEMBER 7TH. 
          AND THEN, UH, OUR, OUR CHARTER REQUIRES, UH, TWO READINGS OF THE TAX RATE. 
          SO UNFORTUNATELY THE WAY THE TAX CODE READS READS, UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO ADOPT THE SECOND, OR WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A SPEC, A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING TO ADOPT THE, THE TAX RATE ON THE SECOND READING BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE SEVEN DAYS BETWEEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WHEN YOU ADOPT. 
          SO WE COULDN'T WAIT TWO WEEKS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UM, BUT SO THERE, THERE IS THAT NEXT, UM, THURS, UH, NEXT THURSDAY. 
          AND AS I WAS WORKING ON THESE SLIDES, UH, OBVIOUSLY I COPY FROM LAST YEAR AND UPDATE, I GOT TO THE LAST SLIDE OF LAST YEAR'S PRESENTATION AND I SAID, WOW, I DON'T NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING FROM LAST YEAR. 
          UH, I THINK WE'RE STILL IN THIS BOAT IN TERMS OF THE, THE NATIONAL ECONOMY, THE LOCAL ECONOMY, THE UM, UM, MORTGAGE RATES, HOW THAT IMPACTS, UH, THE BUILDING COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UH, WE DO HAVE BUDGET RISKS 
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IN TERMS OF THE FORECAST THAT WE'RE MAKING IN TERMS OF, UH, REVENUES. 
          WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE COUNCILS, UM, WORKING WITH US THIS PAST YEAR ON HOW TO MODIFY, UM, THE, THE BUDGET, UH, SO THAT WE CAN END THE YEAR, UH, BALANCED. 
          AND WE ARE FULLY CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL END NOT ONLY BALANCED, BUT WITH A, A SLIGHT SURPLUS. 
          SO WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL WORKING WITH US ON THAT. 
          UM, BUT AS WE GO INTO NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UM, SIMILAR CONDITIONS. 
          SO WE, UH, ESPECIALLY ON THE DEVELOPMENT REVENUE SIDE, UM, THE CITY HAS A LOT OF FIXED COSTS. 
          WE MENTIONED THE SLIDE ON 61% OF OUR BUDGET IS PERSONNEL. 
          UH, AND THEN A LOT OF OTHER THINGS ARE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES THAT, UH, ARE HARD TO, UM, ADJUST IN MID-FLIGHT. 
          SO WE DON'T WANT TO OVERSHOOT ON EXPECTATIONS FOR, UM, DEVELOPMENT, UH, FEES AND COME UP SHORT. 
          UM, SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER. 
          SORRY, ONE, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          UHHUH , WHEN CAN WE EXPECT OUR PRELIMINARY BUDGET BOOKS OR THE P D F VERSION SO WE CAN KIND OF GET THANK YOU. 
          UH, LAST YEAR I COULD SAY WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. 
          NOW I'M WITH THE LOSS OF THE ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR. 
          UH, I CAN SAY I'M WORKING ON THAT AND IT, UM, UH, I THINK THE WHAT ONE DEFINITELY HAVE TO GET THE FINAL TAX RATE, UM, NAILED DOWN FROM THE, UH, COUNTY OFFICE. 
          SO I SU SUSPECT THAT'LL BE, UH, MONDAY. 
          AND THEN I THINK WE WILL HAVE A A P D F VERSION OF THE BOOK ON HOPEFULLY, UM, BY THURSDAY OF THE COUNCIL MEETING, BUT IF NOT THURSDAY THEN THEN FRIDAY. 
          UM, I HADN'T MENTIONED THIS TO THE CITY MANAGER, SO, UM, I WAS HOPING TO ASK IF, UH, THE, WE COULD DISPENSE WITH HARD COPIES OF THE PRODU, UH, PROPOSED BOOK THIS YEAR. 
          IT'S, UH, UH, SURPRISINGLY THE PRINTING COST IS EXPENSIVE, SO IT'S ABOUT $4,000 TO PRODUCE. 
          UM, THOSE, WE WILL STILL MAKE THE, UM, ADOPTED BOOKS AVAILABLE. 
          UH, A LOT OF THE STAFF, UM, USE THOSE, UH, AS THEY PAY THEIR BILLS DURING THE, DURING THE YEAR. 
          SO, BUT IF WE COULD DISPENSE WITH THE HARD COPY PROPOSED AND JUST DO THE P D F, UH, WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT IN FINANCE. 
          I PREFER THE, THE P D F, WE CAN CONTROL F AND FIND WHATEVER WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN IT. 
          ARE Y'ALL GOOD WITH THAT? YES. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, ANYTIME YOU CAN DO THAT. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          WE COULD GET FOUR SUPPRESSORS OUT OF THAT PROBABLY GREG , SO I'M JUST KNOWING WELL, YOU, YOU, YEAH. 
          SO, AND ALBERT OR WHATEVER HIS NAME IS. 
          UM, THE, THE, THE ONE THING AS WE'RE GOING IN, YOU'LL PROBABLY KNOW THIS, AND THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE CITY MANAGER'S GLOO AND DOOM REPORT, BUT I'M ALWAYS TRYING TO LOOK AND THE STAFF IS ALWAYS TRYING TO LOOK 12 TO 18 MONTHS OUT WHEN WE'RE DOING THESE BUDGETS. 
          I KNOW Y'ALL PROBABLY HEARD ME LAST YEAR AND I SENT OUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET, TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMY MEET AND CONFER, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. 
          IN THIS CASE, I THINK THE FLAG THAT I WOULD WANT Y'ALL TO BE KIND OF KEEPING THE EYE ON IS NOT JUST YOUR REVENUES ON CONSTRUCTION, BUT RELATIVE TO TAX RATE. 
          SO WITH THE THREE POINT HALF PERCENT TAX CAP, YES, WE'VE GROWN, YES, YOU'VE GOT SOME LIMITATIONS AND, AND THE ACTUAL, UH, AD VALOREM RATE PER HUNDRED WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO COME DOWN EVEN IF Y'ALL ADOPT THE, THE MAXIMUM WITHOUT GOING TO THE VOTERS WHERE THERE IS SOME CONCERN. 
          AND ROBERT WAS GONNA SAY, WELL, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BE CONCERNED BEING POSITIVE? BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREATER AUSTIN METRO AREA, WE HAD THE BIGGEST INCREASE IN HOME PRICES, THE WHOLE REGION. 
          AND THIS IS THE ONE REGION, THE REGION SPEAKING, NOT LEANDER, BUT THE REGION, THE BIGGEST DROP NATIONALLY IN HOME PRICES. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE CAD VALUES AND THE NUMBER OF PROTESTS, IT'S NOT GONNA HIT US THIS YEAR, BUT POTENTIALLY IF YOU HAVE ALL, A LARGE NUMBER OF YOUR EXISTING HOME STOCK IS ON AT A MUCH LOWER RATE THAN IT WAS LET'S SAY A YEAR OR TWO AGO ON THE CAD. 
          NOW PART OF THE SAVING GRACE, NO, NOT FOR WATER, BUT IF YOU SEE THESE LARGE, MANY LARGE APARTMENT BUILDINGS BEING CONSTRUCTED, ONCE THOSE HIT THE CAD, THAT WILL BE OUR BENEFIT. 
          BUT I WOULD CAUTION THAT 
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YOU MIGHT HAVE A LOWER RATE THIS YEAR IN TERMS OF AV BECAUSE OF PRIOR GROWTH. 
          AND THEN IF WE GROW THE STAFF OR GROW OUR, LET'S JUST SAY OUR CONTINGENT LIABILITIES TOO MUCH, THEN WE GET THE ADJUSTED CAD VALUES THE NEXT, THE NEXT YEAR. 
          AND EVEN IF THEY'RE FLAT, THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE. 
          SO JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT YES, WE WANT PERMIT REVENUES TO RECOVER SALES TAX TO CONTINUE TO GROW, BUT LOOMING OUT THERE IS THAT CAD VALUE ISSUE THAT MIGHT COME BACK THIS TIME NEXT YEAR AND BE AN ISSUE IN THE BASE. 
          AND ALSO MIGHT HAVE TO PUT US IN A POSITION TO SAY, WELL, WE HAD TO LOWER IT BY X NUMBER OF CENTS THIS YEAR, AND THEN TO MAKE THE EXISTING BUDGET FROM THIS YEAR, IT MIGHT MEAN LOOKING AT THE HIGHEST RATE OR EVEN LOOKING AT GOING TO THE VOTERS. 
          AND I, I'M, I'M TRYING TO, AND I REALIZED IN A DOWN ECONOMY, THE LAST THING YOU WANNA DO IS GO TO THE VOTERS. 
          BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW THIS STUFF WORKS. 
          AND WE HAVE TO LOOK 12 TO 18 MONTHS OUT, UM, BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT, WE'RE JUST GONNA BE CAUGHT. 
          FLATFOOTED COUNSEL, ANYTHING ON, I HAVE A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS. 
          UH, MR. POWERS, THEY MAY BE FOR YOU OR ROBIN, BUT FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS, REFRESH MY OPINION, OR SORRY, REFRESH MY MEMORY, WHEN DO THOSE GO INTO EFFECT? AND THEN PART TWO IS A MR. POWERS QUESTION. 
          WHERE DO THOSE FUNDS, ARE THEY GOING INTO THE HOT FUNDS? YES, IT WOULD GO TO THE HOT FUNDS. 
          AND SO WHEN ARE, WHEN ARE WE GONNA START GETTING THAT REVENUE? WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE FIRST. 
          OKAY. 
          SO AFTER THE SIGNED ORDINANCE COMES SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          SO PROBABLY BE AUGUST, SEPTEMBER WHEN WE'D HAVE SOME DRAFT LANGUAGE. 
          WE ADOPTED IT THIS YEAR. 
          WE COULD DO IT, IMPLEMENT IT FOR JANUARY OR SO. 
          THAT WOULD SOME INCREASE FUNDS. 
          PROBABLY NEED SOME, PROBABLY NEED SOME LEAD TIME. 
          UM, WHEN WE ADOPT THE STANDARDS, WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE A COMPANY TO HELP US IMPLEMENT IT. 
          YES. 
          UM, SO I'LL BE PART OF THE, THE PROCESS FOR PROCUREMENT OF THAT COMPANY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, THAT VENDOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, ANYTHING FURTHER? OKAY. 
          DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON BUDGET BEFORE WE GO INTO C I P? ALRIGHT. 
          IT IS 9 38. 
          WE'RE GONNA TAKE A 15 MINUTE RECESS. 
          BE BACK IN 15. 
          I DIDN'T REALIZE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE ARE RECONVENING AT 9:58 AM MOVING INTO C I P, WE HAVE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE, DAN GRIMS BOW. 
          GOOD MORNING, MR. GRIMS BOW. 
          GOOD MORNING, MAYOR COUNCIL. 
          DAN GRIMS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR CITY LANDER, AND TODAY WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          HI. 
          UH, I'D LIKE TO START OFF FIRST BY SAYING, UM, UH, INTRODUCING OUR, UH, C I P TEAM. 
          WE HAVE A COMPLETE TEAM. 
          NOW, UM, SITTING BEHIND ME IS, UH, OUR C I P MANAGER AND, UH, UH, ALSO WITH US, UH, BUT NOT HERE IS RUSSELL, OUR C I P PROJECT MANAGER. 
          AND KELLY, UM, OUR C I P, UM, CONTRACT SPECIALIST. 
          AND I DIDN'T SAY HIS NAME, I GUESS I USED TO SEE HIM SO MUCH, BUT THAT'S TONY. 
          UH, SO, UH, SO ANYWAY, WE HAVE A FULL TEAM NOW AND THEY ARE LEADING THE CHARGE, LITERALLY ON C I P PROJECTS, UM, WITH THE SUPPORT OF, OF ENGINEERING INSPECTORS AND G I S, UH, REVIEWS, FINANCE, UM, PUBLIC WORKS, UM, PLANNING. 
          UM, SO IT'S A TEAM EFFORT. 
          UM, BUT, UH, TONY IS THE ONE MAKING SURE THAT THE TRAIN STAYS ON TRACK. 
          UM, AS WE KNOW, WE HAVE A TRAIN HERE AND, UH, THE OTHER PROJECTS ARE MOVING FORWARD. 
          . 
          ALL RIGHT, SO I LOVE THIS SLIDE. 
          UM, THAT'S WHY IT'S THE FIRST ONE. 
          UM, FOR THE NEXT, BASICALLY THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR, WE HAVE 56 AFTER PROJECTS. 
          UM, WHAT I REALLY LIKE TO PLAN, UH, LOOK AT IS, UM, THE FIRST TWO, ESSENTIALLY 35 IN PLANNING DESIGN, WHICH IS OUTSTANDING. 
          WE LITERALLY HAVE 10 PRODUCTS, UM, UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. 
          AND SOME OF THOSE ARE THE FALCON OAK AND WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SAN GABRIEL ELEVATED STORAGE TANK, UM, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT SLASH PROCESSING VARIATION, WHICH IS BASICALLY COMPLETED. 
          AND, UH, KINLEY, OUR ASSISTANT, UH, DIRECTOR FOR PUBLIC WORKS OR, UH, WASTEWATER, UM, LOVES THAT WE COMPLETED THAT. 
          THAT PLAN IS RUNNING MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. 
          UM, WE JUST INITIATED IT, BUT THE RIGHTAWAY PROJECT IS GONNA BE, UM, STARTED. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE SEEN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE E M S BUILDING, UM, THAT'S RIGHT OUTSIDE, WHICH IS, UH, BEING RENOVATED FOR THE, UH, TO MOVE THE INSPECTORS OVER SO WE CAN MAKE MORE ROOM IN OUR BUILDING TO HIRE SOME MORE FOLKS, WHICH IS GONNA BE GREAT, UM, AND HAVE THE SPACE FOR IT. 
          UM, AND THEN WHAT WE HAVE IN REVIEW, UM, IS, 
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UH, EITHER OUT FOR BID OR IN REVIEW, MEANING, UM, IN THE CITY FOR REVIEW, SO WE CAN PUT OUT FOR BID. 
          SOME OF THOSE ARE THE DOWNTOWN FIRE IMPROVEMENT, THE SANDY CREEK, UH, WATER TREATMENT IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER, THE LAKELINE WATER LINE. 
          AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE OUR, UH, JUST ABOUT READY IS THE, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT COLLABORATIVE WAY AND THEN THE SENIOR CENTER, UM, UH, TO SPEAK OF A FEW. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, SOME OF WHAT WE'VE COMPLETED IS THE TWO TRAFFIC SIGNALS, RONALD REAGAN AND SONNY AND BAGHDAD, THE GOLF COURSE DRIVING RANGE, AND OUR I N I STUDY. 
          AND SO, UH, WE'VE COMPLETED OTHERS, BUT THOSE ARE THE MOST RECENT ONES. 
          AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE TRACKING, WE'LL GO A LITTLE BIT, UH, DEEPER INTO SOME OF THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS FOR EACH OF THE YEARS. 
          UM, THE M S BUILDING OF WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT WILL BE COMPLETED HOPEFULLY IN SEPTEMBER. 
          UM, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON, UM, MOVING FORWARD THE TRAINING, UM, FIRE TRAINING BUILDING TO MAKE IT AN, UM, NATURAL GAS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE CITY HALL INITIAL, UH, PRE-DESIGN THAT'S GOING OUT. 
          IT'S IN LEGAL REVIEW RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, SO THAT SHOULD BE COMING TO, UH, TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. 
          UH, SOME OF THE OTHER FACILITIES, ONES THAT WE HAVE MOVING FORWARD IS THE FIRE STATION, UH, 90% DESIGN. 
          UH, PROBABLY, UH, FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WILL BE NEEDED FOR THE FIRE STATION. 
          NUMBER SIX AND, AND LAND DESIGN. 
          UM, I THINK WE'RE CLOSE ON GETTING THE LAND. 
          UM, UM, BUT THAT IS OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS A STRUGGLE. 
          THE ONE WE ADDED HERE, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT, IS THE EXPANSION OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMS. AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, UH, MOVING THE EVIDENCE ROOM SO WE CAN EXPAND THE, UM, THE CALL CENTER, UH, TO HIRE, UH, MORE PEOPLE FOR, FOR THAT ACTIVITY. 
          AND, UH, THE POLICE CHIEF CAN CERTAINLY CHIME IN IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT, BUT THAT'S A GOOD PROJECT. 
          BASICALLY, THIS WILL JUST BE MOVING OUR COM CENTER, UM, EXPANDING OUR COM CENTER AND THEN MOVING OUR EVIDENCE, UH, UH, AREA TO THE, I'M ASSUMING STILL THE LOWER WAREHOUSE, WHICH IS RIGHT KIND OF BEHIND US. 
          SO EVIDENCE HAS BEEN ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE'VE, UH, CONTINUOUSLY BEEN JUST TAKING OVER OFFICES TO PUT EVIDENCE IN. 
          SO MOVING THEM OUT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP US EXPAND THAT COM CENTER TO THE SIZE IT NEEDS TO BE SO GOOD. 
          AND, UM, FROM THIS MAP, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE, UH, LOCATIONS OF THE, UH, THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          SO, UM, UM, LITERALLY, UH, BETWEEN DEVELOPMENT AND ATMOS GAS AND OTHER DRY UTILITIES AND OURSELVES, YOU'RE PROBABLY SEEING CONSTRUCTION AND WE'LL BE SEEING MORE OF IT THROUGHOUT THE, THE CITY OF LANDER OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. 
          SO, UH, MY FAVORITE SUBJECT, UM, WATER. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE SEVERAL, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE MOVING, UM, FORWARD ON WATER. 
          UM, I'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF 'EM. 
          THE ONES I LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THOUGH IS THE DOWNTOWN FIRE IMPROVEMENT, WHICH IS OUT BID. 
          UM, WHICH, UM, WHICH IS, UH, GREAT NEWS. 
          THE, UH, SAN GABRIEL LV STORAGE TANK, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND, AND SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY AUGUST 24. 
          UH, THE BAGHDAD TERMINUS PUMP STATION AND STORAGE TANK, WHICH IS THAT 90% DESIGN THAT ONE WE'RE HOPING GOES OUT, UM, WITHIN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. 
          UM, THE, UH, SAN GABE OR THE, UH, SANDY CREEK WATER TREATMENT PLANT SLUDGE AND, UH, REDUNDANT TRAIN, THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY OUT BID. 
          THE BIZ ARE DUE IN SEPTEMBER. 
          UM, THAT'S A HUGE PROJECT. 
          THAT'S A $19 MILLION PROJECT THAT'S GONNA, UM, GREATLY ENHANCE THE EFFICIENCY OF OUR WATER PLANT, AS YOU ALL KNOW. 
          AND, AND HEARD ME SAY, WE'RE PROBABLY AROUND NINE, 10 ISH IF WE REALLY NEED TO FLAT OUT RUN, WHEN THIS GETS DONE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO FLAT OUT RUN AT THE FULL CAPACITY OF 12 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. 
          AND THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, GREAT. 
          THAT'LL BE ANOTHER PROJECT THAT, UH, KINLEY APPRECIATES. 
          UM, AND THEN THE, UM, THE OTHER ONES, UH, ALONG IN THERE IS THE, UH, UH, THE RONALD REAGAN, UH, STORAGE TANK AND, UH, PUMP STATION. 
          UM, U C WE BOUGHT THE LAND FOR 6 MILLION, UM, WHICH WAS, UM, GREAT TIMING. 
          AND WE HAVE THE, UH, DESIGN THAT'S ACTUALLY COMING TO COUNCIL AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING FOR APPROVAL. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE THAT ONE OUT, UM, BASICALLY BEING DESIGNED OVER THE NEXT 18 MONTHS, AND THEN PUT THAT ONE OUT FOR BID. 
          THAT'S GONNA BE A GREAT PROJECT AS WELL. 
          WILL YOU REMIND US WITH THE MASTER, THE WATER MASTER PLAN? YEAH, THE WATER MASTER PLAN IS ESSENTIALLY, UH, AN UPDATE TO THE WATER MASTER PLAN. 
          IT WAS, THEY, BOTH THE WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLANS ARE BEING DONE, AND THE WATER ONE'S ALMOST DONE. 
          UM, THE WASTEWATER, UH, WE'RE HAVING DONE WITH ANOTHER CONSULTANT, AND WE FUNDED THAT FOR 24. 
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SO THEY'LL GET STARTED ON IT HERE SHORTLY. 
          WHAT THEY'RE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ALSO IS THE EXPANSION, WHICH WE WILL NEED OF THE, UH, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OF TELLING US WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO GET THINGS DONE AND MOVE THE WATER RANGE LINES, FUTURE LINES, FUTURE LINES FUTURE, RIGHT. 
          EVERY FIVE YEARS. 
          OKAY, GOT IT. 
          SO THE LAST TIME, UH, WE HAD DONE OURS WAS, UM, 1718 IN THAT RANGE. 
          UM, AND THAT ALSO, WHAT'S THE COUNCIL DISAPPROVED, UH, COINCIDES WITH THE, UH, WATER WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES. 
          SO IT'S PERFECT TIMING BECAUSE THOSE PROJECTS ARE TALKED ABOUT ALONG WITH THE MASTER PLANS. 
          THE MASTER PLANS WILL HAVE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE NEED DONE. 
          UH, REMEMBER THE WA THE WASTEWATER AND WATER IMPACT FEES ARE ONLY FOR, UM, FUNDS THAT CAN BE USED FOR EXPANSION OF, OF THE CITY BASED ON POPULATION GROWTH AND SO FORTH. 
          SO, UM, SO THAT ONE IS, IS WORKING AS WELL. 
          UM, SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT ARE COMING IN 24 ARE AS THE, UM, UH, WATER A M I, UH, WE DO HAVE THE, UM, R F P, UM, RIGHT NOW, UM, BEING WORKED. 
          AND SO THAT ONE'S GONNA MOVE OUT. 
          WE HAVE TALKED THAT WE DO HAVE ARPA FUNDS FOR THAT IN THE $5 MILLION RANGE, BUT WE KNOW THAT TO HAVE THE SYSTEM COMPLETELY BUILT OUT, AND WE'VE SEEN OTHER CITIES, THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE CLOSER TO THE $11 MILLION RANGE. 
          WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS FUTURE FUNDING AND, AND SOME SLIDES FURTHER AHEAD. 
          SO WE'LL, WE'LL KIND OF GET TO THAT POINT. 
          UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, UM, IS THE, IS THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE, UH, BAGHDAD TERMINUS, UH, PUMP STATION. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE, UH, IN THIS CASE, THE WATER LINES, UM, TO INITIATE MOVING WATER, UM, AT THE TAKE POINT FOR THE B C R A. 
          SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE MORE WATER FROM THE B C R E A, UM, TO THE CITY. 
          AND SO, UH, ANOTHER REALLY GOOD PROJECT, THE, THE LAST ONE I'LL MENTION, UM, IN A SENSE, IS THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THE, UH, PHASE, UH, ONE D, PHASE TWO AND, UH, PERMANENT POWER FOR THE B C R E A. 
          AND THAT 5 MILLION IS, WE, WE HAVE 13 THAT THEY THINK THAT WE MAY HAVE BECAUSE OF CONTINGENCY AND OTHER THINGS. 
          AND SO WE SPLIT IT OVER, UM, ESSENTIALLY 24 25. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IF THERE'S ANY COST INCREASE, WHICH AS YOU WELL KNOW, THERE'S BEEN COST INCREASE ACROSS EVERYTHING. 
          UM, EVERY CITY'S HAVING TO DEAL WITH IT, UM, AND TO INCLUDE THIS CITY. 
          SO, UM, YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN IT IN SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS, NOT ONLY WITH UTILITIES, BUT FACILITIES AND PARKS AND OTHER THINGS. 
          SO, SO ANYWAY, UM, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ONE TO, TO KEEP IN MIND. 
          UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A PLACEHOLDER, BUT, UM, YOU CAN'T, YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT READY TO GO. 
          SO, SO A COUPLE MAPS TO FOCUS IN ON HERE. 
          UM, I LIKE THIS ONE BECAUSE IT, IT, IT KIND OF SHOWS, UM, OUR WATER SYSTEM AND OUR DIFFERENT PRESSURE PLANES AND, AND WHAT WE'RE DOING TO FACILITATE, UM, MOVING WATER FROM ONE PART OF THE CITY TO THE OTHER. 
          AND THEN ALSO WHERE THE CAPACITY INCREASES ARE GONNA BE HELPED, UM, TO HELP MOVE THE WATER, BUT TO CONTROL, UH, WATER DEMAND, AND THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, PEAKING FACTOR OR THE PEAKING HOURS THAT WE HAVE, UH, WHEN PEOPLE USE A LARGE AMOUNT OF WATER AT ONE TIME. 
          UM, SO, UM, SO YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE. 
          UM, UH, WE, WE ALREADY HAVE THE PUMP STATION AT A 24 HAS WORKED OUT GREAT. 
          WE HAVE THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANKED UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE AT 60% DESIGN HERE, HOPING THAT ONE GOES OUT FOR BID THIS YEAR. 
          THIS ONE SHOULD BE GOING OUT TO BID THE LAKE LINE, WHICH IS A 16 INCH LINE, UM, PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, THE VIS ELEVATED STORAGE TANK, WE PURCHASED THE LAND, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT REALLY HERE, I'M GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE THIS. 
          IT'S MORE LOCATED ALONG BAGHDAD, BUT, UM, OH, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          IS IT, IS IT, YEAH, IT'S UP HERE. 
          AND THEN THE EXTRA PIPELINE GOING DOWN. 
          GOING DOWN, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, UH, MAN, I AM JUST THAT GOOD . 
          SO, SO, SO, UH, SO WE HAVE THE DESIGN, WHICH WILL BE, UH, COMING ALONG, UM, SHORTLY FOR THE, AND, AND, AND I, THE ONE THING I DIDN'T CHANGE, AND I NEED TO, IS THAT WE'RE GONNA CALL IT THE HERO, HERO WAY BECAUSE ALL THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS ARE NORMALLY NAMED AFTER THERE A ROAD. 
          AND SO WE'RE GOING TO STICK TO WHERE IT'S NAMELESS. 
          SO, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA CALL IT NAMELESS. 
          NO, WE'RE GONNA CALL IT HERE. 
          WE'RE GONNA CALL IT HERO WAY. 
          SO, SO THAT WAS THE CHANGE I DIDN'T MAKE, AND I WILL MAKE THAT. 
          AND THEN, UM, 
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THE TWO IMPORTANT ONES, IF I CAN GET MY ARROW FOUND AGAIN, THERE IT IS, IS THE, THE TERMINATE PUMP STATION RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS IN DESIGN, IS GONNA BE GOING OUT FOR A BIT SOON. 
          AND THAT'S GONNA REALLY HELP US MOVE WATER THIS WAY. 
          AND TO THE, UH, CRYSTAL FALLS, UH, STORAGE TANK AND PUMP STATION. 
          HUGE HELP. 
          WELL, YEAH, AND THAT WILL HELP LIBERTY HILL AND, UH, GREATWOOD ESTATES BECAUSE, UM, YOU'VE PROBABLY TALKED TO OR SEEN, BUT WE HAVE FOUR DEVELOPMENTS HAPPENING IN THIS AREA. 
          UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM TO ACTUALLY GET THIS PIPELINES INSTALLED, WHICH IS GREATWOOD AS, UM, STATE SOUTH LEANER ESTATES HILLTOP, AND THEN ONE MORE. 
          SO THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF WATER THAT'S GONNA BE NEEDED TO BE MOVED THAT WAY TO INCLUDE LIBERTY HILL. 
          SO THAT TERMINUS PUMP STATION'S GONNA BE VERY VITAL HERE IN SHORT ORDER AND THE LAKELINE PIPE, 'CAUSE THAT'S ALSO GONNA HELP US MOVE WATER FROM SOUTH TO NORTH TO HELP SUPPORT THOSE, THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. 
          UM, AND THEN MY LAST ONE, WHICH IS, UM, JUST ABOUT MY FAVORITE ONE OTHER THAN THE SANDY CREEK, UH, IMPROVEMENTS IS THE RONALD REAGAN, UH, PUMP STATION. 
          UM, THAT'LL ALLOW US TO MOVE, UM, THE WATER THAT WE NEED, UM, ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH AND, AND, AND SUPPORT ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THERE. 
          BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'LL HELP US CONTROL THE PEAKING FACTOR. 
          UM, THE B C R A WASN'T REALLY DESIGNED WITH THE PEAKING FACTOR PER SE, AND, AND THAT'S GONNA BE OUR SEARCH TANK TO ALLOW US TO CONTROL THAT IN A MUCH BETTER MANNER. 
          SO, UM, SO EVERYBODY'S HAPPY ABOUT THAT ONE COMING ALONG. 
          AND THEN JUST KIND OF, THIS MAP JUST SHOWS YOU, UH, FROM AN AERIAL VIEW, UM, THE LOCATION OF THE CITY WHERE ALL THOSE PROJECTS ARE ACTUALLY HAPPENING. 
          AND SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, UM, CONSTRUCTION IS GONNA BE ON, UH, UTILITIES, UH, THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          SO A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC PROJECTS, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE BEFORE, BUT IT'S THE, UH, SAN GABRIEL RESO SAINT, UM, 1.25 MILLION. 
          UM, THIS IS GONNA HELP US WITH STARTING WITH THAT PEAKING FACTOR AND, AND RECOVERY TIME, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE BOTH THE KAUFMAN LOOP ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IN THIS ONE. 
          SO WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE MORE STORAGE ON THAT LINE UNTIL WE GET THE RONALD REAGAN BUILT, AND THAT'S GONNA HELP. 
          UM, SO THIS ONE WILL BE DONE, UM, AUGUST THE 24. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE PERFECT. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE RONALD REAGAN, AND AGAIN, OUR PUMP STATION RIGHT HERE, AND IT'S JUST RIGHT BEHIND THE PUMP STATION, UM, OFF OF RONALD REAGAN. 
          THIS IS, UH, ANOTHER ONE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, WE'VE STARTED THE FIRST PART, WHICH IS PHASE ONE. 
          UM, SO IT'S THE, UH, ADVANCED METERING INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND, UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING WITH, UH, FIGURING OUT WHAT WE NEED, AND THEN THE TEAM IS GONNA GET WHAT TECHNOLOGY IS AVAILABLE. 
          AND THEN, UM, WE'LL PUT IT ALL TOGETHER AND THEN WE'LL GO OUT AND REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS ONCE THE, UH, THE R F P IS DONE, UM, AND COMPLETED. 
          AND WE HAVE A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THAT, BECAUSE IT TAKES IT, FINANCE, BILLING, PUBLIC WORKS, ENGINEERING. 
          I MEAN, IT LITERALLY TOUCHES JUST ABOUT EVERY DEPARTMENT. 
          SO A LOT OF COORDINATION THERE. 
          ONCE IT GETS ON BOARD, UM, IT'LL BE GREAT AND PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO MONITOR THEIR WATER USAGE AND, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO MONITOR THEM IF THEY'RE NOT MONITORING THEIR WATER USAGE TO TELL 'EM THEY'RE USING TOO MUCH. 
          UM, HERE'S MY FAVORITE PROJECT, UM, I'M JUST GONNA PUT IT OUT THERE. 
          UM, THE SANDY CREEK. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S DESIGNED, THE BIDS COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER. 
          UM, THIS, WHOOPS, THIS, THE SECTION TO YOUR RIGHT HERE, THAT'S THE, THE WHOLE SYSTEM, UM, FOR, UH, TAKING THE SLUDGE AND, AND BASICALLY TAKING IT OUTTA THE WATER, COMPRESSING IT SO WE CAN HAUL IT AWAY. 
          UM, VERY EFFICIENT AS COMPARED TO LAGOONS AND HAVING IT SETTLE. 
          UM, SO NIGHT AND DAY. 
          UM, AND THEN THE BOTTOM ONE, THE BOTTOM PART TO YOUR LEFT, THAT'S THE REDUNDANT TRAIN WE'RE GONNA HAVE SO THAT WE CAN CONSTANTLY HAVE ALL THE TRAINS RUNNING. 
          AND SO WHAT THAT'LL ALLOW US TO DO IS WHEN WE HAVE TO CLEAN THE FILTERS OR DO MAINTENANCE, WE CAN TAKE ONE DOWN AND YET STILL HAVE THE FULL AMOUNT, 12 MILLION GALLONS RUNNING. 
          UM, SO A GREAT ADDITION TO THE PLANT. 
          CAN'T, CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THIS DONE. 
          I WAS REALLY HOPING IT WAS GONNA BE DONE BEFORE. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS A LOT OF HOPE BEFORE THE SUMMER OF 24, BUT IT WILL BE DONE BEFORE THE SUMMER 25. 
          SO, UH, THE NEXT ONE IS THE, UH, WASTEWATER AND, UH, UH, WASTEWATER IS, UH, THE, THE ONE IMPROVEMENT WAS 
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THE PLANT WE MADE. 
          UM, AND WE'RE ALSO, UH, MAKING AN IMPROVEMENT TO, UM, EAGLE WAYS, UM, WHICH WAS COMPLETED. 
          UM, YOU PROBABLY SAW SOME PICTURES OF THAT, THE ROAD THAT WAS DONE IN THERE. 
          UH, THAT PROJECT TURNED OUT GREAT. 
          IT WAS A LOT OF TREES, AND WHAT WE HAD TO DO WAS CONNECT THE CONNECTIONS. 
          THERE WAS TOO MANY PEOPLE CONNECTED TO SOME OF 'EM, AND IT WAS CAUSING BACKFLOWS AND OTHER ISSUES. 
          SO WE HAD TO SEPARATE 'EM ALL OUT. 
          AND THEY WENT IN AND DID A REALLY GOOD JOB. 
          'CAUSE THEY HAD TO DEAL WITH EVERYBODY'S YARD AND TREES ON PRIVATE SIDE, ON THE PRIVATE SIDE. 
          AND SO, UM, SO, SO THAT TURNED OUT, UH, REAL WELL, UH, REAL WELL, AND WE HAD VERY FEW, UH, CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS. 
          SO I WANNA GIVE KUDOS TO THE STAFF AND THE COMPANY FOR DOING A GOOD JOB ON THAT ONE. 
          THAT'S NOT EASY. 
          UM, FALCON OAKS, THE WASTEWATER SIDE, THE WATER SIDE'S DONE. 
          THE WASTEWATER SIDE IS, UM, STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND MOVING ALONG. 
          AND THEN A COUPLE OF THE OTHER BIG ONES ARE, UM, THAT ARE COMING UP WITH THE B C R W W S, WHICH IS OUR REGIONAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. 
          UM, WE HAVE TO BUY INTO THE REAL PROPERTY, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE BECOMING A FULL OWNER. 
          AND, UM, UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT PART. 
          AND THE OTHER PART IS THE, THE FILTERS, THE, THE PLANT 'CAUSE OF GROWTH AROUND HERE IS ALREADY SOMEWHAT BEHIND, KIND OF LIKE WE WERE WITH THE P C R A AND NOW THEY'RE CATCHING UP, BUT THEY THOUGHT THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T NEED THE FILTERS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME IN THE FUTURE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND ON THE PLANT, THEY NEED IT SOONER. 
          SO NOW WE GOTTA GET THE DESIGN FOR THOSE GOING SOONER SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THAT BUILT. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S OUR PORTION OF THE DESIGN TO, TO MOVE THAT, UH, FILTER DESIGN FOR THAT REGIONAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT FORWARD. 
          UH, SOME FOR THE, UH, 24, UM, WHICH IS GREAT, IS THE FIRST ONE. 
          UM, THE LIFT STATION 2243, THAT'S THE MASTER LIFT STATION. 
          UM, AND IT'S BEING BUILT NOT ONLY TO KINDA REPLACE THE ONE WE HAVE, BUT FOR FUTURE EXPANSION OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. 
          UM, SO IT, WE CAN GROW INTO IT. 
          UH, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE'RE BUILDING A BYPASS TO ALLOW US TO MOVE WATER FROM THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY, AND TO FACILITATE USING THE CAPACITY OF THE REGIONAL PLANT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME SO WE DON'T HAVE TO EXPAND OUR CURRENT PLANT FOR A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD THAT'S USED. 
          THE CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US ON THE EAST SIDE TO THE EAST SIDE GETS BUILT OUT. 
          UM, SO, UM, THAT BYPASS LINE IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL, SEVERAL YEARS, UM, AND KEEP US FROM HAVING TO SPEND MONEY, UM, ON EXPANDING THEIR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN IS, UM, RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO GET WATER CAUGHT UP. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE MASTER PLAN, UM, IS GONNA BE TAKEN OFF, WHICH IS, UM, UM, WHICH IS, UM, NEEDED AGAIN, IS MAKING SURE WE'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME ON, UM, WASTEWATER. 
          AND THEN THE LAST TWO ARE, ARE ANEW. 
          UM, WE, WE HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT STORM WATER. 
          AND SO THE FIRST THING THAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IS INITIATING A STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ONE. 
          AND SO THIS WILL BE OUR, OUR FIRST ATTEMPT TO MOVING THAT FORWARD AND SEEING WHERE WE CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM. 
          UH, AND PART OF THAT IS THE, UH, WORKING WITH, UH, FEMA, AND THAT'S THE L MAR CITYWIDE REVIEW ASSOCIATED WITH ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE LATEST FLOOD MODELS THAT DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE USING. 
          I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD ATLAS 14, WHICH IS THE CURRENT ONE. 
          SO AGAIN, ALONG THAT LINES, AND DID YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? UH, NO, , UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING REALLY TO ADD TO IT. 
          THE, LIKE, LIKE DAN SAID, THE, THE SECOND ITEM HERE IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF AN EFFORT THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING WHERE WE'RE INCORPORATING THE LATEST RAINFALL INTENSITY, UM, AND GETTING UP TO SPEED WITH, UH, THE, UH, DATA AND METHODOLOGIES THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS USING. 
          UM, THE IDEA IS THE SECOND STEP HERE IS TO ACTUALLY CHANGE THE FLOODPLAIN MAPS TO, UM, SHOW THE, THE UPDATED MODELING. 
          THANKS, EMILY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, SO, SO, UM, SO WELL THEN WE'LL HAVE ALL, ESSENTIALLY, ONCE THAT MASTER PLAN, UM, KICKS IN, WE'LL HAVE ALL THE MASTER PLANS FOR THE UTILITIES TO INCLUDE STREETS, BECAUSE WE DID THAT ONE IN 21, WHICH WAS GOOD ON THE CITY. 
          ESSENTIALLY ALL THE UTILITY MASTER PLANS WILL BE, UM, IN PLACE AND UPDATED. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE A REALLY GOOD VIEW OF WHERE THE CITY NEEDS TO GO. 
          AGAIN, KIND OF THE, THE MAP SHOWN, UM, WHERE ALL THE, WHERE PROJECTS ARE TAKING OR OCCURRING THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UM, 
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AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LENGTH OR THE AMOUNT OF LINE THAT'S, UM, BEING, UM, EITHER INSTALLED OR REPLACED. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING ON THIS, UM, PARTICULAR PROJECT, BECAUSE THIS IS, UM, UPGRADING ESSENTIALLY, UH, SIX LIFT STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          UM, THEY'RE ALL AT VARIOUS, UM, UH, STAGES OF, OF DISREPAIR. 
          UH, AND WITH THE GROWTH, THEY ALSO NEEDED TO BE EXPANDED. 
          UM, SO, UH, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD PROJECT THAT'S HELPING US, UH, GET CAUGHT UP WITH, UH, SOME OF THE WASTEWATER DEMANDS THAT, UM, THAT THE CITY, UM, HAS IN PLACE AND WILL HAVE BECAUSE OF GROWTH. 
          AND THEN, UM, UH, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE I THINK THAT'S, UM, THAT THE CITY TOOK ON THAT'S OUTSTANDING. 
          AND WE HAVE FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE COUNTY APA FUNDS TO SUPPORT THIS. 
          IT'S OUR, OUR RECLAIM SYSTEM. 
          AND, UM, I HAVE BROUGHT, UH, I GOT ONE MORE. 
          I HAVE BROUGHT 10 EASEMENTS TO THE COUNCIL ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          AND, UM, AND THOSE EASEMENTS, UM, RIGHT TO DATE ARE AT THE TUNE OF ABOUT, UH, 700, UM, THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          UM, BUT THEY, THEY WERE ALL WITHIN AS WE DISCUSS, UM, IN THE APPRAISAL AMOUNTS, WHICH IS, WHICH HAS WORKED OUT WELL. 
          BUT THE OTHER THING THAT WAS REALLY, UH, USEFUL WAS THAT THEY WERE DONE TIMELY. 
          UM, I THINK THEY WERE ALL DONE AND, BUT THE, THE, THE WHOLE TEAM BACK HERE, UM, INITIATED IT. 
          BUT THEY WERE DONE IN, IN MONTHS AND NOT YEARS BECAUSE THIS PROJECT IS, UM, THE DESIGNS MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND WE'RE HOPING, WELL, WE ACTUALLY GOT, UH, BID OUT FOR SEPTEMBER OF 23 BECAUSE THE DESIGN'S ESSENTIALLY THERE. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO WITH THIS, THIS IS BASICALLY REDUCE THE TREATMENT CAPACITY OF THE WATER PLANT BY A MILLION GALLONS BY USING REUSE WATER FROM THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TO PROVIDE, UH, BUSINESSES, UH, IRRIGATION WATER, OR IF IT'S A MANUFACTURING CAN, THEY CAN USE IT IN THEIR PROCESS OR FOR COOLING TOWERS, UH, FOR NORTHLINE, THEY'RE GONNA USE IT FOR IRRIGATION AND THE PONDS. 
          UH, SO MAINTAINING THE WET PONDS THERE. 
          SO A REALLY GOOD, A REALLY GOOD, UH, SYSTEM. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THE SERVICE AREA THAT IT COVERS HERE, UM, OUR PLANT'S LOCATED RIGHT THERE, AND THE LINE'S GONNA GO ALL THE WAY UP TO NORTHLINE, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN OBVIOUSLY ESTABLISH THE LINE FURTHER, UM, BASED ON THE SIZE AND, AND SOME OF THE CUSTOMERS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE, UM, COMMUNITY COLLEGE, A COUPLE OF, UM, DEVELOPMENTS, OF COURSE, NORTHLINE AND THERE, THERE'S A FEW OTHERS. 
          SO, UM, REALLY GOOD PROJECT . 
          YES. 
          UM, ROBERT REMINDED ME, AND, AND YOU'LL BE SEEING THIS, IS THAT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO DO IS PART OF THIS PROJECT IS NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE LINE, BUT WE'RE BUILDING A FILLING STATION ACTUALLY AT THE PLANT SO THAT CONTRACTORS CAN GO THERE INSTEAD OF USING FIRE HYDRANTS TO FILL THEIR, THEIR TRUCKS UP FOR, UH, DUST CONTROL OR INITIAL ESTABLISHMENT OF, OF LANDSCAPING, THEY CAN GO TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND FILL THE TRUCKS UP. 
          GOOD QUESTION. 
          HOW DO WE GET THEM TO DO THAT? 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE A FIRE HYDRANT WOULD BE EASIER FOR THEM. 
          IS THERE? YEAH, JUST DON'T GIVE THEM ONE LOCK THAT AND FORCE THEM TO ACCOUNT. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST DON'T LET 'EM CONNECT TO A FIRE HYDRANT. 
          I'M PRETTY GOOD AT THAT. 
          I'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, GO, GO TO THE FILLING STATION. 
          THEY, THEY HAVE TO USE SPECIAL METERS TO CONNECT TO OUR FIRE HYDRANT, WHICH WE ISSUE. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED. 
          YEP. 
          SO WE HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT. 
          I MEAN, IF IT'S A DISTANCE THING OR REASONABLY RIGHT INT, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THEM COME ALL THE WAY OVER. 
          ARE THEY PAYING FOR THE WATER EITHER WAY? YEAH, AND, AND YOU HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, I WAS BEING A LITTLE, UH, SNIPPY THERE, A LITTLE FUN, BUT NO, YOU HAVE TO USE LOGIC. 
          WE HAVE THE STREETS TO MAINTAIN AND STUFF, SO, YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED AND SO FORTH. 
          BUT, UM, THE IDEA OF USING THAT FILLING STATION IS GREAT. 
          UM, AND MAYBE WE CAN, OTHER CITIES WILL, YOU KNOW, LIBERTY HILL, OTHERS IF THEY WANNA BE ABLE TO FACILITATE USING IT. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, OTHER CONTRACTORS, UH, THE OTHER LAST PART WAS THE COST. 
          SO WHAT WE HAVEN'T DONE AND, AND WE, WE NEED TO ESTABLISH, AND WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT INTERNALLY A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE NOW IT'S GETTING READY TO BE CONSTRUCTED. 
          AND THAT'LL PROBABLY BE OVER THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, YEAR TO 15 MONTHS. 
          WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH WHAT OUR RATE WILL BE FOR, FOR THAT. 
          UM, AND NORMALLY MOST CITIES, IT'S SOMETHING SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN POTABLE WATER, BUT YOU WANT THEM TO USE IT, IT'S AN INCENTIVE TO USE IT. 
          UM, BUT ROBERT TELLS ME, UM, WE CAN'T BE TOO GENEROUS BECAUSE THEN, UM, PEOPLE WILL OVERUSE IT. 
          AND SO THERE'S, WE'LL HAVE TO FIND A BALANCE AND DISCUSS IT, BUT YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT COME FORWARD 
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AS WELL. 
          AND SO THAT WILL BE ANOTHER REVENUE SOURCE, UM, THAT, THAT WE CAN USE IT, IT JUST WON'T BE GOING INTO THE, TO THE CREEK. 
          UM, WE'LL, WE CAN ACTUALLY, UM, USE IT TO HELP US BOTH WAYS, REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE'RE TREATING, WHICH SAVES US, UM, MONEY AND THEN ACTUALLY USER REUSE, UM, AND, UM, COLLECT A REVENUE ON THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          STREETS. 
          SO, SO, UM, SO THIS ONE, UM, WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS, UH, ONE GREATER WAYS MOVING FORWARD, UM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          UM, BUT WE HAD TO BORROW, UM, FUNDS THAT WE WERE GONNA USE TO DESIGN SAN GA OR TO BUILD SAN GABRIEL PHASE TWO, UH, TO SUPPORT THAT, WHICH, WHICH, UM, WAS PERFECT, GOOD DECISION. 
          UM, I HAVE A FUTURE SLIDE WHERE NOW WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE WANNA FUND NOT ONLY SAN GABRIEL, PHASE TWO, WHICH YOU SEE ON YOUR END AND DESIGN'S DONE, BUT SAN GABRIEL PHASE THREE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN. 
          SO WE ALREADY HAVE SURVEYS GOING OUT, SURVEYING IT. 
          UM, WE'RE IN A PROCESS OF, UM, HAVING TO NEGOTIATE BEHIND THE RIGHT OF WAYS THAT WE NEED FOR THAT. 
          UM, AND THAT DESIGN'S PROBABLY GONNA BE DONE AND READY TO CONSTRUCT THAT IN 2025. 
          UH, SOME OF THE, UM, OTHER ONES YOU SEE WAS, UH, HERITAGE GROVE ROAD. 
          THAT WAS ANOTHER ONE WHERE WE REDIRECTED THE FUNDS. 
          AND, UM, AND WE DID, UM, A SET OF A COMPLETE ROAD REBUILD. 
          WE DID A MILL OVERLAY, WHICH TURNED OUT GREAT. 
          UM, I, I, I HAVE A COUPLE PHOTOS OF THAT, AND THE ONLY THING WE'RE LEFT DOING THAT WITH THE FUNDS IS THAT WE'RE GONNA FINISH OUT THE DESIGN. 
          SO WE DO HAVE DESIGN, UM, IN CASE, UM, WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          ANOTHER BIG MANUFACTURER, SOMETHING COMES IN AND, AND WE WANNA SUPPORT DOING A FULL, FULL BUILD OUT, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE, INCLUDE THE REST OF THE ROAD, BROAD STREET, AND THEN THE STREET GOING FROM WEST TO EAST, WHICH IS, UH, JOAN. 
          SO, UH, THOSE FUTURE ROADS WILL, WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED, BUT CURRENTLY, UM, THE ROAD IS VERY USABLE. 
          THE MILLAN OVER LAKE TURNED OUT REALLY GOOD. 
          AGAIN, A GOOD DECISION, UH, UH, IT ALLOWED US TO DO THAT ROAD AND OTHERS AND, UH, AND, UM, HELP WITH, UH, ROBERT ON THE, UH, THE BILL SIDE. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME, ROBERT. 
          UH, . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, THE NEXT ONES WE'VE KIND OF TALKED, UH, TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT, UH, THE CORRIDOR. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT SIGNALS. 
          UH, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE ROAD REHABIL REHABILITATION, THAT'S HOW MUCH IT WAS. 
          WE'VE ALREADY FINISHED IT. 
          THE ROADS LOOK GOOD. 
          THE SAN GABRIEL RIGHT TURN, IT'S AT 90% DESIGN. 
          WE WANT TO GET THAT ONE OUT. 
          WHERE IS THAT AT AGAIN? SAN GABRIEL. 
          AND WHAT? IT'S ON SAN GABRIEL AND, UH, 180 3. 
          IT'S, IT'S 180. 
          IT'S LITERALLY 180 3 OLD. 
          180 3. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S LITERALLY WEST OF NORTHLINE. 
          YOU CAN SEE TRAFFIC BACKED ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FIRE STATION. 
          YES. 
          YEAH, IT REALLY NEEDS A RIGHT TURN THERE. 
          AND SO WE'RE USING THE, UH, CAT METRO FUNDS TO HELP SUPPORT THAT TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE, WHICH IS PERFECT. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          CAT METRO. 
          YES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HELPING US ON, UM, SEVERAL PROJECTS, WHICH IS, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          UH, AND THEN, UM, IN, UM, UH, 24, I SHOW IT AS AS 24. 
          BUT, UM, A COUPLE OF THOSE ARE REALLY GONNA BE DISCUSSING A FUTURE SLIDE, BUT YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE THE DESIGN FOR SAN GABRIEL, UH, PHASE THREE GOING. 
          AND WE HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT FOR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS AND STUDIES, WHICH YOU ALWAYS NEED. 
          UM, AND THEN THE BIG ONE IS THE, UM, UM, I JUST CALL IT SOUTH BY NORTH SOUTH, THAT'S SO MANY SOUTHWEST AREA. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY HAVE THAT UNDER DESIGN, AND THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, A GREAT PROJECT FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA. 
          IS THAT STILL A ROUNDABOUT OR HAS THAT CHANGED? NO, I FEEL LIKE IT IN MANY FORMS. YEAH. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE, WELL, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE BEST, BUT WE'RE REALLY THINKING JUST THE NORMAL FOUR-WAY STOP SIGN. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST REALIGNING, REALIGN IT, I GUESS ON THE, UH, EAST SIDE TO BRING IT UP TO WEST. 
          UH, I, I, SORRY. 
          YES, YES. 
          TONY'S NODDING. 
          OKAY. 
          IS TONY NODDING YES. 
          WELL, THEN THAT'S THE CORRECT ANSWER, SO WE'RE GONNA GO WITH THAT ONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THOSE LITTLE DETAILS ARE A LITTLE FUZZY. 
          IF THE LAST ONE I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT JUST FOR A MOMENT, UM, AND THIS IS GOOD, IS THAT, UM, WE'RE STILL IN THE, WE'RE STILL ON THE, ON THE RUN FOR PROJECTS THAT WE SUBMITTED FOR THE WILCO, UM, BOND FUNDS, WHICH IS THE NORTH BAGHDAD ROAD IN A CRYSTAL FALLS. 
          AND, UM, UH, WE RESUBMITTED IT. 
          UM, UH, THE CHIEF STAFF, MIKE KIND OF WORKED WITH THEM AND SAID, HEY, UM, UH, WILCO SAID, HEY, WE CAN'T FUND BOTH ROADS, BUT WE'D REALLY LIKE TO FUND BAGHDAD AND THEN WE CAN HELP YOU WITH THE DESIGN OF CRYSTAL FALLS. 
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UM, BUT WE WANNA DO IT IN A WAY THAT YOU ARE GONNA SUPPORT US. 
          SO IF WE HAD DONE BOTH PROJECTS, WE WERE GONNA DO 20%, AND BOTH PROJECTS TOGETHER WAS ABOUT, UH, $65 MILLION, 20% HAS ABOUT 17 MILLION. 
          SO WHAT THEY DID WAS SAID, LOOK, WE'LL SPLIT THE BAGHDAD ROAD WITH YOU, 55 45, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, I, UM, I HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT IT'S, UM, THEY PAY AMOUNT AND WE PAY AN AMOUNT SO THAT IT ADDS UP TO THE $25 MILLION. 
          AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE KIND OF THE, THE 80 20 SPLIT WITH THE DESIGN, BUT BOTH PROJECTS STILL HAVE US WITHIN THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT THAT WE SAID WE WOULD SUPPORT TO HAVE BOTH THOSE PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO IF THEY CONTINUE ON, UM, WE'LL BE ADDING THOSE TO THE C I P PROJECT. 
          AND THAT WILL BE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL FUND TO HELP SUPPORT, UM, TWO ROADS, WHICH I THINK, UH, WILL BE GREAT, UH, FOR THE CITY OF LANDER, ESPECIALLY CRYSTAL FALLS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED. 
          UM, 'CAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PRESENTATION TOMORROW TALKING ABOUT CR 1 77 AND THE CLOSURE OF THAT ROAD AND WHY THAT IS NEEDED. 
          AND CRYSTAL FALLS WOULD BE, UM, UH, A GREAT ADDITION, UH, FOR THE TRANSPORTATION OF GOING ACROSS THERE. 
          SO AGAIN, UM, KIND OF SHOWN, UM, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY ON THE VARIOUS ROADS, UM, AND, UM, KIND OF THE LENGTHS AND, UM, AND WHERE THEY'RE, WHERE THEY'RE HAPPENING. 
          UM, AGAIN, UM, I, I KNOW I SAID IT, BUT THIS IS FOR ME, THIS IS AMAZING. 
          UM, THAT'S A ROBIN THING. 
          I SAID THAT AT THE, UH, . 
          SHE, SHE LIKES ONE AMAZING, IT, IT, IT IS, BUT IT, BUT, UH, THE, THE CONSTRUCTION WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE TEAM THAT'S SUPPORTING US, IT IS, IT'S REALLY GOOD. 
          SO A COUPLE OTHER ROADS THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA HIGHLIGHT THE RAIDER ONE, YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE'VE SHOWED THIS BEFORE, BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY UNDERWAY, , IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE, BUT WE'RE THERE, UM, YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. 
          IT'S THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER. 
          UM, THAT'S GONNA BE A GOOD PROJECT. 
          IT'S, I'M GONNA BE HONEST HERE, IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE PAINFUL FOR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS. 
          AND, AND THAT'S HOW CONSTRUCTION IS. 
          UM, WHEN YOU TDOT AND COUNTIES AND CITIES ALL HAVE TO YEAH, . 
          OKAY. 
          SO, BUT AS, AS SOON AS, AS SOON AS WE RIP THAT BANDAID OFF AND IT GETS DONE, EVERYBODY'S GONNA COME BACK AND GO, OH MY GOD, THIS IS GREAT. 
          AND SO, I MEAN, IT'S GONNA HAVE SIDEWALKS AND, AND THREE LANES AND UM, AND IT'S GONNA HAVE FLASHERS AND A PROPER SIGNAGE AND, YOU KNOW, LEFT TURNS IN AND RIGHT TURNS OUT. 
          AND SO, UM, SO YEAH, IT'S WELL OVERDUE, BUT NEXT COUPLE YEARS IS, YOU KNOW, KINDA HOLD ON A LITTLE BIT. 
          I THINK NOW THAT WE ARE GETTING INTO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE OF THAT, THE INQUIRIES FROM THE PUBLIC ARE GONNA GO UP. 
          WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF THEM. 
          SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO JUST ENSURE THAT EITHER IN THE WEEKLY UPDATE OR THE MONTHLY UPDATES THAT WE RECEIVE, THAT THERE'S JUST A STANDING LINE THAT SAYS WHERE CONSTRUCTION'S AT, ANYTHING THAT'S COME UP THAT'S SLOWED IT DOWN OR SPED IT UP, WHAT PEOPLE CAN EXPECT, THAT KIND OF THING, SO THAT WE'RE ALL CONSISTENT IN OUR MESSAGING WITH THE PUBLIC. 
          YEAH, I'M GONNA DIRECT THAT TO OUR CHIEF OF STAFF . 
          UH, YES, I THINK THAT INFORMATION PROBABLY COMES FROM YOU . 
          IT'LL, AND I WILL, I WILL PULL THOSE TEETH FROM, FROM TONY AND FROM DAN, BECAUSE, UM, JUST, UH, EARLIER THIS WEEK WE HAD OUR, OUR PRE-CON MEETING WITH THE CONTRACTOR. 
          WE HAD SCHOOL DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVES THERE. 
          UM, CERTAINLY THEY WANT TO BRING A LOT MORE, UH, ROUSE AND WILEY CAMPUS REPRESENTATIVE STAFF TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          SO WHAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO, UM, IS, I KNOW WE NEED THIS YESTERDAY, BUT AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, WE'RE WORKING ON ESTABLISH A TRAFFIC PLAN WITH THE CONTRACTOR. 
          THE GOAL RIGHT NOW IS TO, AND, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN PUSHED OUT, BUT THE, THE VERY, VERY SENSITIVE, UM, TIMEFRAME FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS ABSOLUTELY THAT FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL, THOSE FIRST TWO WEEKS, WHICH IS ABOUT TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND WE KNOW THAT. 
          UM, SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS ANY, ANY TRAFFIC INTERRUPTIONS, THIS WILL GIVE US TIME TO COMMUNICATE AS WELL. 
          BUT ANY TRAFFIC INTERRUPTIONS WILL REALLY START AFTER LABOR DAY. 
          UH, WE'LL USE THIS ENTIRE TIMEFRAME. 
          ONCE THAT TRAFFIC PLAN IS FIRM AND WE HAVE SOME MATERIALS TO SHARE, WE'LL USE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CHANNELS, WE'LL USE OUR CHANNELS TO SHARE THOSE WITH BOTH COMMUNITIES IF WE NEED TO. 
          WE'LL SET UP WHATEVER MEETINGS WE CAN TO COMMUNICATE THAT FURTHER. 
          SO, UM, THAT WILL START OUR COMMUNICATION ABOUT THE PROJECTS AND THEN, UM, WEEKLY, AS OFTEN AS WE CAN, ANY CHANGES, SIDE STEPS, JUST IF THERE'S NO ACTION, WE'LL TELL COUNSEL, NO ACTION. 
          AND THAT'LL BE PART OF OUR WEEKLY COMMUNICATION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE'LL UPDATE THAT STATIC PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          THE PROJECT PAGE WILL BE ONE PAGE THAT WE USE AS A RESOURCE FOR EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT, UM, ON THE PROJECT STATUS. 
          AND DOES 
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THAT HAVE A VANITY URL ON IT? LIKE LEANER TX.GOV/RAIDER? SOMETHING EASY FOR PEOPLE TO REMEMBER. 
          UM, WE CAN CREATE ANOTHER ONE. 
          I THINK WE'VE GOT, UH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          I NEED TO GO BACK AND REMEMBER WHAT THAT SHORT UUR L IS, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL DO A COUPLE OF THEM IF WE NEED TO. 
          ONE EASY WORD YOU THINK WILL BE, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HOORAY. 
          THAT WAS GOOD. 
          THANK YOU, . 
          THAT WAS, IT'S NOT AMAZING. 
          IT'S, UH, IMPRESSIVE, IMPRESSIVE, IMPRESSIVE. 
          I, I'LL GO WITH THAT, MAYOR. 
          I LIKE IT. 
          I LIKE IT. 
          UM, THE OTHER PROJECT, WHICH I THOUGHT TURNED OUT GREAT AND, UM, IT HAPPENED IN SHORT ORDER. 
          UH, THE COMPANY CAME, DID A GOOD JOB, UM, WAS THE MILL AND OVERLAY OF THE FOUR ROADS. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE PHOTOS, UH, FROM THOSE ROADS. 
          AND SO, UM, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD PROGRAM, UH, FOR THE CITY TO MAINTAIN. 
          IT'S A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO SPEND, UM, A COUPLE MILLION ON MULTIPLE ROADS, AND IT IS A COUPLE MILLION ON ONE ROAD AND A MILLION OVERLAY. 
          YOU CAN SEE HOW FAST IT HAPPENED. 
          UM, AND IT'S, IT REALLY HAS A LITTLE, PROVIDES SO MUCH LESS INTERRUPTION. 
          SO THE MORE WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS PROGRAM AND TRY TO UPKEEP OUR ROADS, UH, THE BETTER OFF WE'LL BE IN THE LONG RUN. 
          AND, AND DAN, I KNOW ON THE HERITAGE GROVE, AND I THINK WE, I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT ONE, NOT JUST FOR THE BUDGET PURPOSE, BUT ALSO, UM, WHEN YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT, SINCE THE KNIFE COMPANY WAS NOT COMING, WITHOUT BRINGING THAT PROJECT, IT REALLY DID NOT MAKE SENSE TO GO IN THERE AND DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT WE DID. 
          UM, 'CAUSE ONE THAT ALSO POTENTIALLY WAS GONNA DRIVE UP THE COST OF THE DIRT WITHOUT AN END USER. 
          AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR A CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENT TO FILL THAT GAP ON THE DELTA AFTER YOU IMPROVE THE ROAD, UH, TO THEN GET WHATEVER END USER. 
          SO I DO THINK THAT GIVES US CURB APPEAL SHORT TERM OR NEAR TERM, MAYBE FIVE, SEVERAL YEARS. 
          IT'S A GOOD ROAD. 
          IT'S, IT'S NEEDED. 
          WE'VE GOT THE GOLD DEPOSITORY THERE, BUT WE ALSO DON'T LOSE OUR POSITION ON LEVERAGE LATER WHEN THERE IS A GOOD END USER LOOKING AT THAT CORRIDOR. 
          UH, YEP, ABSOLUTELY. 
          UH, GOOD DECISION ON, ON THAT PROJECT. 
          UM, SO THE NEXT ONE IS PARKS. 
          AND, UM, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA LEAN HEAVY ON, ON MARK ON THIS ONE, , BUT, UH, THE ONES THAT YOU SEE IN RED ARE, ARE, ARE GONNA TAKE A MOMENT FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAYBE WANT TO ENGAGE IN ON, UM, WHERE WE'RE HEADING OR WHERE WE WANT TO HEAD ON THOSE PARTICULAR PROJECTS. 
          UM, SO THE FIRST ONE IS OLDTOWN PARK. 
          UM, THAT ONE THAT WAS INITIALLY KIND OF HELD ONTO UNTIL WE GOT THE MASTER PLAN DONE AND, AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO. 
          AND ESSENTIALLY WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          UM, AND THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS, UM, WAS TO PROBABLY DOWN SCOPE IT AND PUT BASICALLY WHAT WE NEED IN THERE ONLY, UH, KIND OF BASED ON THE, THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN. 
          UM, AND, AND THE WHAT IS NEEDED IS KIND OF LIKE, IS, YOU KNOW, DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO MARK AND I. 
          YEP, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE WANNA GO AND I'LL LET MARK CHIME IN ON THIS ONE. 
          THANK YOU, DAN. 
          UM, EXACTLY WAITING ON THE FINAL APPROVAL OF A MASTER PLAN AS YOU, YOU MENTIONED. 
          UM, WE HAVE A, A, A MASTER PLAN THAT'S COMPLETED. 
          UM, BUT THERE'S, WE, ONCE WE GET APPROVAL FROM THE MASTER PLAN, AND OF COURSE MR. BETTIS CAN, CAN CHIME IN AS WELL. 
          'CAUSE THESE ARE A LOT OF HIS PROJECTS AS YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE INTO FROM, UH, VISIONING AND PLANNING. 
          AND THEN IN ACTUAL INTO COST, THESE BECOME MORE IN THE C I P REALM. 
          SO HE AND RUSSELL HAVE REALLY DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB IN WORKING WITH MANY OF THESE PROJECTS. 
          BUT AS FOR OLD TOWN, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS WE WANNA LOOK AT. 
          AND WITH YOUR GUIDANCE AS WELL IS PARKING, UM, DO WE NEED TO INCREASE SOME OF THE PARKING AROUND THAT AREA? UM, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO, TO LOOK AT WITH YOUR, YOUR, UM, INPUT AS WELL. 
          UM, SO IT MAY SHRINK A LITTLE BIT OF THE ACTUAL PARK SITE, BUT IN THE LONG RUN WE'RE GONNA BE, BE GAINING A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          SO THOSE, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE A WORKSHOP FOR THAT OR HOW DO YOU WANNA DO THAT? WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU THINK, MIKE? UM, I, I THINK WE, WE STILL WANT TO GET CLEAR OUT THE, THE OLD TIME MASTER PLAN, GET, GET THAT FINISHED AND FINALIZED AND, AND APPROVED TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN THEN TAKE SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF THAT INCORPORATE INTO SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT OLD TOWN PARK. 
          YEAH, I, I DO THINK THAT, UM, BECAUSE TO SOME EXTENT WE ARE, WE WILL, WILL, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO, WE'RE GONNA DOWNSCALE, UM, FROM THE INITIAL DESIGN TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OTHER NEEDS. 
          UH, I THINK PARKING'S GONNA BE A BIG FACTOR IN HOW THAT LOOKS. 
          SO WE WANNA MOVE QUICKLY. 
          WE DON'T WANNA DELAY THIS PROJECT EITHER, BUT WE 
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DO WANNA MOVE QUICKLY ON WHAT, WHATEVER THAT VERSION IS, WE WANT TO GET INPUT FROM COUNCIL AND THEN MOVE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. 
          SO WE'LL DO THAT. 
          I DON'T WANNA SET A DATE FOR THAT JUST YET. 
          WE'LL GET THROUGH THE WHOLE TIME MASTER PLAN AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE WANNA REENGAGE PLACE DESIGN AS WELL AND NOT REENGAGE. 
          WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED WITH THEM, BUT JUST TO, TO WORK WITH THEM ON WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN I JUST THROW THIS OUT THERE? UM, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR PARK AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE DOWNTOWN, ESPECIALLY THE OLD TOWN STREET FESTIVAL AND THE CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL. 
          IF WE COULD HAVE A, JUST A MENTAL TARGET DATE OF, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE TO HAVE SOMETHING COMPLETE BY, I BELIEVE IT'S JUNE NEXT YEAR. 
          IS THAT EVEN REMOTELY POSSIBLE? IF NOT, THEN WE COULD SAY DECEMBER, I THINK. 
          BUT THEY'RE SAYING THERE'S TOO, I THINK THERE'S TOO MANY THINGS UP IN THE AIR, IS WHAT? YEAH, I, I WOULD SAY JUNE WOULD BE JUST UNREALISTIC FROM MY, MY PERSPECTIVE AND PROBABLY MR. BETTIS, I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE ALMOST OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE, I THINK A BETTER TARGET WOULD BE CHRISTMAS OF NEXT YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN THAT'S, THAT'S NOT MAYBE NOT ACCURATE, ALTHOUGH, ALTHOUGH MARK, I GUESS, BUT THAT WOULD BE A A, WE'VE GOT A WAYS TO GO. 
          THAT WOULD BE AN ATTEMPT JUST TO, TO NOT PUSH IT OUT TOO LONG. 
          AT LEAST THAT WOULD BE AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE IT FOR DECEMBER. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I DO THINK IF IT'S, DEPENDING ON IF ANYTHING ELSE WAS DESCOPED, IF THERE'S LESS INTENSITY IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER ITEMS AND YOU DON'T HAVE, OBVIOUSLY THE FOUNTAINS AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS, WHICH DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE, THAT TARGET COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ELASTIC ON THAT. 
          SURE. 
          THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT, UM, HOW FAST IT GETS BUILT, IS IT DEPENDING ON, ON WHAT'S NEEDED AND, AND IF IT, WE KEEP IT SIMPLE OR A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX. 
          BUT, UM, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE JUST, THAT ONE JUST NEEDS WHAT, YOU KNOW, COMMAND DECISION AND THEN WE'LL JUST MOVE OUT. 
          UM, THE NEXT ONE, UM, SAN GABRIEL RIVER PARK. 
          UM, I SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THAT ONE OUT BECAUSE I COMBINED IT IN 24, WHICH IS REALLY, UH, P 17 AND 18, WHICH IS THE RIVER TRAIL AND PARK. 
          AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN ONE SECOND. 
          THE SENIOR CENTER, UM, WE, IT'S AT 90% DESIGN AND THAT ONE SHOULD BE GOING OUT FOR A BID, UM, HERE AROUND THIS FALL. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S GOOD NEWS. 
          UM, THAT ONE WAS, WAS GIVEN TO US AND, UM, AND TONY AND TEAM ARE, ARE RUNNING WITH IT. 
          SO, UM, WE SHOULD SEE HOPEFULLY THAT BID'S COMING BACK AND BRINGING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL IN, UH, SHORT ORDER. 
          SO, UM, I'D LIKE, LIKE TO SKIP THE NEXT TWO, UM, FOR A MOMENT AND COME BACK TO THOSE SO WE CAN JUST KIND OF GO OVER THE OTHER ONES. 
          THE OTHER ONES, UM, EACH ONE OF THEM ARE KIND OF TRACKING, UM, BUT A COUPLE NEW ONES ARE THE LIBRARY, H V A SYSTEM, UM, THAT WE ADDED ON THERE AND THAT WE'RE GONNA DO SOME REPAIRS AND, UM, AND SOME REFURNISH, UH, UM, REFURBISH SOME OF THE, UM, FARMSTEAD AREA. 
          SO THOSE ARE TWO NEW PROJECTS, UM, THEY NEED TO BE DONE. 
          UM, YOU GOTTA TAKE CARE OF YOUR FACILITIES. 
          UH, AND SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA DO THOSE NOW. 
          WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE ONE FOR A MINUTE. 
          UM, PARKS KIND OF PUT A THING IN THERE ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, WANTING TO REDO THE ENTIRE GOLF COURSE. 
          AND THIS AMOUNT WOULD BE FOR A DESIGN. 
          NOW IT'S NOT IN THE, IT'S NOT IN THE CURRENT C I P BUDGET RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHY IT'S IN RED FOR A DISCUSSION. 
          AND I CAN LET MARK KIND OF LEAN TO THAT. 
          BUT, BUT THIS COULD BE WHEN, WHEN YOU TALK TO THE GOLF COURSE, I MEAN, YOU COULD BE 15 MILLION OR 40 MILLION DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH YOU WANNA SPEND ON IT. 
          AND, UM, DO WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH EVEN THE DESIGN OF IT AND ADD IT TO THE C I P? SO I'M GONNA KIND OF LET MARK TALK TO THAT ONE A LITTLE BIT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, YES, WHEN WE WERE PULLING TOGETHER OUR, UM, BUDGET BACK IN MARCH, UM, WE WANTED TO START LOOKING AT DESIGN, MASTER PLANNING AND DESIGN FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO, TO THE GOLF COURSE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR SEVERAL, SEVERAL YEARS. 
          UM, AND SO LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT DESIGN WE, UM, FACED AND ARE STILL FACING. 
          AND WE SHARED THAT WITH YOU, UM, THROUGH OUR, OUR WEEKLY CORRESPONDENCE. 
          UM, WE WERE AT A CRITICAL JUNCTION ABOUT FOUR WEEKS AGO WITH OUR, OUR GREENS. 
          UM, I'M NOT AN AGRONOMIST, WAYNE SLATON IS, HE IS MUCH MORE VERSED IN IT THAN I AM, OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE WERE AT THE POINT OF CLOSE TO LOSING THOSE GREENS. 
          UM, HE AND HIS STAFF DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF MANIPULATING AND WORKING AND BRINGING THOSE TO LIFE WHEN WE HAD A COOL, 
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WE, WE, UH, WETTER SPRING, THEN FOLLOWED BY IS WHAT YOU CAN SEE NOW FOR THE LAST SIX WEEKS OR SO. 
          EXTREME TEMPERATURES PLUS THE AMOUNT OF ROUNDS OVER WELL CLOSE TO 40,000 ROUNDS. 
          THAT'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC. 
          UM, THESE GREENS ARE A HODGEPODGE OF, UM, GRASSES FROM OVER THE YEARS. 
          THEY'RE, UM, SO WE ARE OBTAINING QUOTES TO REPLACE THE GREENS. 
          UH, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT SOMETIME NEXT WEEK. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMPLETE REFURBISHMENT AND MAYBE IT'S INSTEAD OF A COMPLETE DESIGN OVERHAUL OF THE ENTIRE COURSE, WE TAKE IT IN BITE-SIZED CHUNKS. 
          UM, SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE STILL MASSAGING, WE'RE STILL GONNA BRING THIS BACK TO YOU. 
          WE WANT YOUR INPUT, YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT AS WELL. 
          BUT AT THIS POINT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE, WE MAY NEED TO FOCUS ON OUR GREENS AND THE IRRIGATION OF THOSE GREENS REPLACEMENT OF THE IRRIGATION OF THOSE GREENS. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS IN THE NEXT, UH, WEEK OR TWO. 
          SO WHEN THIS SAYS GOLF COURSE IMPROVEMENTS DESIGN, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REDESIGNING THE COURSE? THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENT. 
          OKAY. 
          I THOUGHT WE ALREADY DID THAT. 
          WE DID A MASTER PLAN BACK IN 2019 MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND WHAT'S YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A, A MASTER PLAN WAS REALLY NICE BECAUSE IT GAVE US DIRECTION TO GO IN. 
          IT ACCOMPLISHED THINGS LIKE, UH, THE SAFETY AND THE IRRIGATION OBVIOUSLY, AND REDESIGN OF SOME OF THE HOLES, REDESIGN OF THE TEE BOXES, UH, THE CART PASS BEING REFURBISHED, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. 
          BUT ONCE YOU GET INTO THE DESIGN, I MEAN THE ACTUAL ENGINEERING, YOU TAKE THAT MASTER PLAN, YOU START ENGINEERING IT WHEN THE ENGINEERS GET AHOLD OF THOSE, THOSE DOCUMENTS AND, AND MR. BETIS AND, AND DAN CAN ALSO, UH, JUMP IN AS WELL. 
          BUT ONCE, ONCE THE ENGINEERS GET AHOLD OF IT AND THEY LOOK AT TOPOGRAPHY AND THEY LOOK AT EVERYTHING ELSE, ALL THE, UM, REQUIREMENTS BY L C R A AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SOME OF THOSE, THE, THE MASTER PLAN MAY SHIFT A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, IS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE ENGINEERING AND MOVING INTO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE MASTER PLAN'S DONE, IT GIVES US DIRECTION. 
          THIS JUST HELPS US REALLY IDENTIFY AND PINPOINT AND GET THOSE CONSTRUCTION BOX DONE. 
          WELL, THE OTHER THING IS, DEPENDING ON WHAT, HOW, WHAT YOU WANT DESIGNED, IT ALSO GIVES YOU A, UM, A A BASIC CONSTRUCTION COSTS, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT YOU WANT DESIGNED EXACTLY. 
          AND SO YOU'LL KNOW IF IT'S, IF KNOW IF IT'S JUST THE GREENS AND IRRIGATION, THAT MIGHT BE AT 10 MILLION OR 8 MILLION. 
          BUT IF YOU WANT TO REDO ALL THE BI UH, THE CART PATHS AND, UM, OTHER THINGS, UH, THEN THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, 25 MILLION. 
          UM, SO IT BA BASED ON THE DESIGN. 
          SO THAT'S PROBABLY SOME INPUT THAT WE WOULD NEED. 
          AND THEN WE CAN TIE IT INTO THE NEXT TWO. 
          WH WH WHILE YOU'RE STILL THERE FOR ONE QUICK SECOND. 
          SO WITH THIS LINE ITEM, WHAT WE'RE SAYING, AND THIS, THIS IS IN, I THINK SOMEBODY CALLED IT HODGEPODGE, UM, JUST A PIECING AND PIECE, LIKE BASICALLY MAINTAINING OR TAKING CARE OF OUR INVESTMENT IN CERTAIN AREAS. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          THAT'S HOW THE, UM, THE DRIVING RANGE GOT REDONE WITH, WITH, WITH THAT STUFF. 
          THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE FIRST KIND OF PHASE OF WHAT COULD HAVE GONE ON IF WE WERE IN A GREAT ECONOMY AND STILL MAYBE HAVING SOME OF THE SURPLUS THAT WE HAD. 
          AND THEN I KNOW IRRIGATION AND GREENS WERE THE NEXT AND CART PATHS, IF YOU WENT IN LIKE THOSE THREE WERE IN WHATEVER ORDER, THOSE WERE THE NEXT BIGGEST THINGS TO TAKE CARE OF. 
          UM, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S NOT LOCKING US. 
          LIKE WE'RE GONNA SPEND 1,000,005 AND THEN IT'S GONNA LOCK US INTO ANOTHER BIG, BIG INVESTMENT, UM, WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS GREAT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF AND IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW. 
          SO I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT CHOOSING A COURSE THAT'S GONNA MANDATE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO AND SPEND A TON OF MONEY, UM, WHEN THAT SAME MONEY COULD BE USED MORE IMMEDIATELY TO TAKE CARE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO BE TAKEN CARE OF, TO MAKE SURE WE, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A REMARKABLE COURSE IN THE, THE TIMING ASSET. 
          FIRST IN THE TIMING AND THE WEAR. 
          I GUESS NOT JUST THE WEAR AND TEAR, BUT THIS ISSUE OF LONGER WINTERS TO EXTREME SUMMERS. 
          AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MIX OF WHAT THE GRASS IS THERE, IF THAT CHANGES IN THE SOIL CONTENT, BECAUSE IT HAS, I WOULD SAY THAT Y'ALL NEED TO, THAT'S SOMETHING, DO YOU WANNA EXPAND ON THAT? BECAUSE AS FOR WHATEVER REASON, SPECIFICALLY THE GREEN TOO, WHATEVER REASON, THE CLIMATE'S CHANGING, NOT GETTING INTO THAT, RIGHT? IT IS AFFECTING THE HARSHER SEASONAL CHANGES IS AFFECTING CAPITAL AND IT PARKS CAPITAL LIKE THAT. 
          AND SO MARK, I DUNNO IF YOU WANNA GET INTO THAT, MANY YEARS AGO WHEN THE GOLF COURSE WAS DEVELOPED 30 YEARS PLUS AGO, THEY USED A, A TIF FOUR 19, UH, TYPE OF GRASS, WHICH WAS TRADITIONAL FOR A LOT OF COURSES. 
          BUT NOW OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS, THERE'S BEEN TREMENDOUS 
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AMOUNT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF GRASSES DEVELOPED FOR COURSES. 
          UM, UH, TIF IS GOOD IN, IN SOME WAYS BACK THEN, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWED FOR A LOT OF, UM, UH, WHAT WE, IT'S A SPECIES TO COME IN THAT, UH, UH, THAT WOULD OVERTAKE IT OR COULD OVERTAKE IT AND ALLOWS A LOT OF WEEDS. 
          BUT EVEN THOUGH IT'S NICE, SO IT'S A LOT OF MAINTENANCE. 
          UM, BUT NEW GRASSES HAVE COME IN TO WHERE NOW IT'S LESS, LESS MAINTENANCE. 
          IT'S MUCH SMOOTHER. 
          IT'S A BETTER, BETTER PRODUCT, OBVIOUSLY. 
          UM, AND I'M THINKING OF THINGS THAT ARE DEVELOPED BY ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY AND OTHER UNIVERSITIES AS WELL WHO HAVE DONE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF STUDIES. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, IS IMPROVING THOSE COURSES AND IMPROVING THE IRRIGATION IN THAT, THOSE, THOSE GREENS AREAS. 
          SO WE DON'T AFFECT THIS. 
          CLIMATE CHANGE OBVIOUSLY HAS HAD SOME EFFECT ON THIS AS WELL AS THE INVASIVE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF. 
          THE INVASIVE SPECIES THAT HAVE COME IN, UH, AS, AS WELL. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE. 
          UM, WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS AND SOME IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE LAST, UH, 2, 3, 4 WEEKS. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING SOME POSITIVE RESULTS EVEN FROM OUR, OUR, UH, PATRONS WHO VISIT THERE. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE OPPRESSED. 
          WHAT WE'VE SORT OF SAVED WHAT WE HAD. 
          UM, BUT AS WE KNOW, IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO, TO GET, UH, IT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE EACH YEAR. 
          SO, UM, BUT TO YOUR POINT, YES, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT IN RED. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UH, AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, THERE'S THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS AND LET'S PUT IT TO THE GREATER NEED, MORE PRESSING NEED. 
          SO MR. CUMMINS, ON TALKING ABOUT THE, THE NUMBER OF THE ROUNDS, UH, I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO PLAY SEVERAL OF THE GOLF COURSES AROUND HERE. 
          AND WHAT SHE'S 10,000 OF THE 40 SAID SHE DID 10,000 OF THE 40 I'M 10,000 OF . 
          UM, ANYWAY, THERE IS A DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE IN THE, IN THE COURSES AROUND. 
          SO WHEN, WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PLAYERS THAT COME AND TELL US THAT THERE, I MEAN, THERE, THEY'RE BEING TRUTHFUL. 
          I MEAN, THE, THE, THE GREENS ARE AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER. 
          , I CAN'T MAKE A PUTT TO SAVE MY LIFE THERE. 
          I JUST DON'T EVEN TRY ANYMORE. 
          BUT, UM, THE NUMBER OF ROUNDS, IT DOES HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH IT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND SO I'VE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MORE ABOUT GOLF THAN I EVER THOUGHT I, I WOULD. 
          UM, BUT SOME OF THE COURSES, THEY DON'T HAVE AS MANY PLAYERS FOR A REASON, BUT IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE TO PLAY, SO YOU CAN'T HAVE EVERYTHING. 
          UH, BUT I KNOW SOME OF THE COURSES WILL CLOSE, YOU KNOW, THE FRONT NINE OR THE BACK NINE TO LET THE GREENS HEAL. 
          SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER DONE THAT. 
          AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU PLAY THE FRONT NINE, YOU JUST, YOU CAN PLAY IT TWICE AND PLAY 18, OR YOU PLAY THE BACK NINE, YOU PLAY IT TWICE AND PLAY 18. 
          SO WHEN, WHEN THIS COMES UP FOR DISCUSSION, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME, UH, SOME COMPARISONS MAYBE FROM SOME OF THE OTHER GOLF COURSES THAT ARE IN THE AREA THAT WHERE IF SOMEONE LIVED HERE, WHERE WOULD THEY GO IF THEY DIDN'T GO TO CRYSTAL FALLS, WHERE WOULD THEY GO AND WHAT ARE THEY DOING? HOW MANY ROUNDS DO THEY HAVE A YEAR COMPARED TO US? UH, WHAT IS THE COST, UH, FOR A MEMBERSHIP? IS IT PRIVATE, SEMI-PRIVATE OR MUNICIPAL? AND HELP US TO, TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, THE BEST DECISIONS. 
          AND, AND I'M SURE, UH, MR. SLAYTON HAS A LOT OF INPUT ON THAT, UH, TO HELP US BECAUSE WE WANT IT TO BE BETTER, BUT WE DON'T WANNA INVEST MONEY. 
          I, I'M SAYING THIS MIGHT, I DON'T THINK WE WANNA INVEST MONEY AND THEN TURN AROUND AND DESTROY IT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SO MANY PLAYERS THAT WE'VE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF PLAYERS BECAUSE IT'S NOW A FABULOUS, YOU KNOW, HAS FABULOUS GREENS. 
          AND THEN WE'VE MESSED IT UP IN, IN THE COURSE OF, I KNOW, PUN INTENDED, OF, UH, TAKING THE ACTION. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? DOES THAT HELP? IT DOES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          IT DOES MAKE SENSE. 
          AND, AND, UH, OUR, OUR, OUR STAFF, MR. WERNER, ALREADY LOOKING AT, UM, UH, PERHAPS BRINGING TO YOU AT SOME POINT A, UH, INCREASE IN OUR NON-RESIDENT FEE MM-HMM. 
          , UM, AND, UH, THAT WILL HELP DO SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, WE'RE AT ABOUT MAX NUMBER OF ROUNDS FOR THE STABILITY OF THE COURSE. 
          SO IT'S, WOULD HAVE TO AGREE. 
          IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT MORE TO SQUEEZE OUT BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF LIKE YOUR, YOUR BALL FIELDS AS WELL. 
          ONCE YOU GET TO A CERTAIN LEVEL OF PLAY, YOU'RE GONNA START LOSING YOUR TURF, AND THEN IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT MORE MONEY TO BRING THOSE BACK. 
          MM-HMM. 
           EACH YEAR, EACH SEASON. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BUT WE'LL GET YOU THIS INFORMATION AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, SO THE ONES I SKIPPED WERE THE, UH, 
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SAN GABRIEL RIVER TRAILS PARK AND, AND RACK CENTER. 
          AND, AND I, I HAD PLAN TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME HERE MORE, MORE PROBABLY DISCUSSION OR, OR THOUGHT, UM, YOU, YOU DID HAVE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL ON THE PARK AND THE MASTER PLAN, AND, UM, I, I THINK I ACTUALLY HAVE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF UNDER A DESIGN. 
          UM, BUT FROM, FROM COUNCIL, UM, IS WHAT, WHAT'S THE DIRECTION FOR THAT MOVING FORWARD? UM, THERE WAS BOND FUNDS, UM, AND, AND ROBERT CAN CORRECT ME THAT WE HAVE ABOUT $11 MILLION, UM, FOR THAT PROJECT. 
          BUT THE MASTER PLAN SHOWED IT AT, IF WE DO THE MINIMUM, AND I HAVE THE, THE DRAWING OF THAT HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT THE MINIMUM WAS LIKE 16 MILLION, BUT UP TO 40 MILLION. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED FOR THAT ONE. 
          AND THEN THE SAME WITH THE REC CENTER. 
          UM, WE HAVE BONDS OF, OF 16 MILLION. 
          UM, REALLY DO, AGAIN, ANOTHER SLIDE ON THAT. 
          DO WE WANNA TAKE MORE MONEY OUT FOR THAT? THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN KIND OF FLOATING ALONG THE RIVER FOR, FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND AT SOME POINT IT JUST, WE NEED TO BANK IT, YOU KNOW, PULL IT IN AND, AND BUILD IT OR, OR, OR, OR SOMETHING. 
          I KNOW MARK'S WORKED REAL HARD ON SOME SITE LOCATIONS, AND WE DID SOME PRELIMINARY, I THINK, UM, KIND OF STUDIES, AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, UM, SPORTS COMPLEX, UM, FOR, FOR THAT. 
          UM, BUT IT, BUT ANYWAY, UM, THAT'S JUST KIND OF ON THE C I P LIST AND ONE THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, FINALIZED AS DISCUSSED. 
          SO MY THINKING ON, ON THAT IS, AND, AND COUNSEL, I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS TOO, ON THE SAN GABRIEL RIVER TRAIL AND PARK, WE HAVE THE LAND, EVENTUALLY IT'S GOING TO BE A PARK. 
          IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A BILL RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN PLUG ALONG AND DO THE PLANS NOW AND PUT THEM ON THE SHELF UNTIL WE HAVE THE FUNDING OR DO SOME PHASES AND MAYBE WE GET A COUPLE OF FIELDS IN, IN A PARKING LOT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE FLUSH WITH CASH, WE BUILD OUT THE REST. 
          BUT WE'VE GOT THE LAND, WE'VE GOT THE BOND FUNDS. 
          IF WE'RE UNDER BUDGET ON DOING SOMETHING, THEN, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WE'RE MOVING FORWARD SOMEHOW ON THE REC CENTER. 
          I NEVER FELT LIKE THAT BOND WAS REALISTIC. 
          I THINK THAT, UM, IT WAS LESS MONEY THAN WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR WHAT WAS ADVERTISED. 
          UM, IF SOMETHING LANDS IN OUR LAP THAT FITS THERE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          UM, BUT I PERSONALLY, I HAVE NO INTEREST IN TAKING OUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF DEBT, UM, FOR SOMETHING THAT, THAT WASN'T REALISTIC. 
          WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? I, I WOULD SAY NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A PRIVATE ENTITY TO COME INTO TO THE CITY AT SOME POINT, AND FOR US TO SOMEHOW, WHEN THEY DO COME TO TOWN AND THEY OFFER SOME TYPE OF, UH, FACILITIES THAT THE, THAT MAYBE THE LOCAL PUBLIC CAN BENEFIT FROM, MAYBE THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO PARTNER WITH THEM ON EVEN A WAY FOR THEM TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, LOCAL, YOU KNOW, CITIZENS, SOME TYPE OF DISCOUNTED RATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOO. 
          I'M JUST, I I'M AGREEING WITH YOU ON THAT PART TOO, THAT, UM, I'M NOT GONNA BE FOR TAKING OUT THE ONLY, SORRY. 
          UM, EVEN MORE BOND FUNDS. 
          I'M NOT EVEN, I MEAN, I'M NOT EVEN OKAY WITH ON A WHIM, UM, UH, WHAT'S THE NEXT, WHAT'S THE PHASE THAT I'M LOOKING FOR, ROBERT, AS FAR AS LIKE GOING AND ACTUALLY ENACTING THOSE BONDS OR WHAT DESIGN DESIGN ISSUE THOUGH, ISSUING THE BONDS, THAT'S THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR, ISSUING THE BONDS TO, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, ARE GOING FORWARD ON THAT PROCESS AT THIS POINT. 
          MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT IS IF WE ARE PUTTING OUR NAME ON A REC CENTER, I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S ACCESSIBLE TO ALL, INCLUDING PEOPLE THAT CAN'T PAY OR KIDS AT HOME WHO DON'T HAVE AN ADULT THAT'S GOING TO FILL OUT, YOU KNOW, A FORM TO, TO GET THEM A WAIVER. 
          THAT'S MY PERSONAL WELL, I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IS WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THE REC CENTER, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING TOO. 
          AND THERE ARE OTHER, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO STILL BE ABLE TO GET THE BENEFITS OF WHAT WOULD'VE BEEN A REC CENTER, UM, THROUGH OTHER COMPANIES THAT COME HERE AND THEY OFFER SERVICES. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          THE PARK IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION, I THINK, TOO, SO, MM-HMM. 
          , WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE PARK? I MEAN, YEAH, I, I, I DON'T, I THINK THAT WE, WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DECIDED IS, WELL, IT, IT, IT IS THERE. 
          I THINK THAT WE CAN'T GO BACK AND PICK A DIFFERENT PIECE OF PROPERTY. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          BUT THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE. 
          I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING. 
          I THINK WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED WHAT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THAT IS. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY WE GET SET FOR SOFTBALL FIELDS OR HOWEVER MANY SOFTBALL FIELDS YOU HAVE TO BUILD A BRIDGE ON THAT THING. 
          AND SO THAT'S INFRASTRUCTURE COST. 
          SO AT THE BARE MINIMUM, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET ACCESS TO THOSE THINGS AND THEN BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          I THINK THAT THEN THERE'S GONNA BE A BALANCING FROM OUR, OUR PROFESSIONALS HERE IS, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GETTING THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK WHILE YOU ALREADY HAVE ALL THOSE SUBS OUT THERE DOING THE WORK AND WHAT NEEDS TO GET DONE, UM, ALL AT ONE TIME AND WHAT CAN BE DONE 
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IN THE NEXT PHASE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE ANSWERS THERE, BUT I AM, I AM FOR NOT GOING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE BUDGET. 
          I'M NOT GONNA BE FOR, UM, GOING IN, GOING FURTHER INTO THE HOLE, UM, ON ANY KIND OF DEBT CELL COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          YOU, YOU WERE TALKING, BUT I, I CHIMED UP THE PHOTO, UH, ON, UH, ON THE SCREEN, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE, THERE IT IS. 
          AND THAT WAS THE, I I WANNA SAY THE MINIMUM, KIND OF THE MINIMUM PHASE COST TO FACILITATE MOVING THAT PART FORWARD. 
          BUT, UM, AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE IN THIS, IN THIS RETREAT TO, TO DISCUSS THOSE, UM, MANY OF THE C I P PROJECTS, WE DO HAVE DIRECTION, BUT, UM, A FEW OF THESE ARE ONES THAT DO NEED SOME MORE GUIDANCE AND, AND, UM, SO, SO, SO, UM, FOR THE REC CENTER AND, UH, THE SAN GABRIEL PARK AND, UM, I'M ASSUMING, UH, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF WILL, BASED ON THIS CONVERSATION, WE'LL KIND OF GATHER SOME MORE INFORMATION FROM THIS, OR IF WE NEED TO TAKE IT THROUGH A WORKSHOP TO KEEP IN MIND, WE'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS IN A COUPLE OF EXECUTIVE SESSIONS AS WELL. 
          WE, WE DO HAVE, UM, MCKINNEY YORK WORKING ON A, UM, UM, A FOR THE, YOU CALL IT A, A DUE DILIGENCE ON POTENTIAL SITE. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT. 
          HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING NEXT 60 DAYS MAYBE. 
          YES. 
          I THINK WE'RE REALLY GETTING CLOSE, SO ON AT LEAST HAVING SOMETHING TO PRESENT TO COUNSEL. 
          COUNSEL, DID ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER INPUT ON THE SAN GABRIEL RIVER PARK OR THE REC CENTER? NO, JUST IN WHAT YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT, RATHER THAN MENTIONING THE PLACE AND ANY OF THAT STUFF, WHEN YOU SAID POTENTIAL SITE FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION, IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT WORKED OUT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BULKING ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEP. 
          IN GENERAL, I AGREE WITH YOU GUYS. 
          I JUST, MY CONCERN IS BECAUSE THE VOTERS VOTED ON THE REC CENTER, UM, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME BONDS THAT NEED TO BE ISSUED, SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR LIKE, WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS IF WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD? MR. BOWERS, THE, THE CITY'S CHARTER, UH, LIMITS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, ISSUE, UH, VOTER APPROVED BONDS, UM, UP TO 10 YEARS. 
          SO VOTERS APPROVED, UH, THESE BONDS IN THE 2 20 16 ELECTION. 
          SO ANY BONDS THAT ARE NOT ISSUED BY 2026, THAT AUTHORIZATION WOULD EXPIRE. 
          THAT THE QUESTION WAS, IF WE DON'T ISSUE IT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IS THAT THE QUESTION? UM, UH, AGAIN, ROBERT, I KNOW WE DON'T, THEY HAVE TO BE ISSUED BEFORE THE 26TH, BUT WHAT IF WE DON'T DO IT? I MEAN, I TAKE IT AS IF, IF THE PROJECT ISN'T OF VALUE, I, I, ONE TIME MAYBE WE THOUGHT IT WAS, BUT IF IT DOESN'T BECOME OF VALUE OR THE COST ESCALATE IN SUCH A MANNER THAT IT OVERCOMES THE, THE INITIAL THOUGHT PROCESS, THEN I THINK IT'S THE COUNCIL'S RESPONSIBILITY AND STAFF TOO, TO SAY TO THE, TO THE RESIDENTS, THIS, THIS DOESN'T WORK. 
          AND WE NEED TO CIRCLE THE WAGONS AGAIN. 
          UH, ANYBODY AT THIS TABLE, PLEASE CORRECT ME. 
          SO, WELL, I DO THINK OUR POPULATION HAS PROBABLY DOUBLED SINCE THEN. 
          SO THE VOTERS THAT VOTED FOR IT, SOME OF THEM HAVE LEFT AND WE HAVE A LOT MORE THAT MAY NOT VOTE THAT SAME WAY. 
          JUST A, I MEAN, THAT'S IRRELEVANT REALLY, BUT IT'S JUST AN OBSERVATION. 
          NO, IT IS VERY RELEVANT IN FACT THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO ISSUE A LOT MORE BONDS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ON A PROJECT THAT EARLIER VOTERS, I BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO GO BACK TO THE VOTERS TO MAKE SURE THE VOTERS STILL WANT TO DO THOSE THINGS IF WE WERE GONNA BE ISSUING A BUNCH OR NEEDING A BUNCH MORE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOO. 
          AND I THINK WHAT YOUR QUESTION WAS WAS, IS THERE ANY HARM IN ANY FOUL IN NOT ISSUING THE BONDS? IF THEY VOTED THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD THE PROJECT AND WE DECIDED NOT TO DO IT, IS THE CITY HARMED IN ANY WAY? NOT, NOT BECAUSE WE'RE JUST BASICALLY NOT TAKING IT OUT, RIGHT. 
          NOT FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, NO. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THERE'S NOT A HARM COUNSEL. 
          ANY OTHER THOUGHTS THERE? OKAY, COUPLE. 
          OH, JUST LOOKING AT THE MAP, UH, UP ON THE SCREEN AND RETHINKING IT, IS THERE ANY FEASIBILITY IN DOING INSTEAD OF THE PHASES WE LOOKED AT BEFORE, ANY FEASIBILITY IN DOING THE TWO MARKED AS FUTURE PHASES THAT ARE ON THAT FRONT END AND THEN JUST ADDING IN THE TRAIL? SO WE'RE AT LEAST HAVING SOME USERS THAT ARE ABLE TO USE THE PARK FOR, UM, LOOKS LIKE SOCCER AND PLAYGROUNDS AND NATURE TRAILS. 
          SO WE'RE AT LEAST GETTING SOME USE OUT OF WHAT WE SPENT MONEY ON WITHOUT BLOWING A, A TON OF MONEY TO GET ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND EVERYTHING INTO THE BACKYARD. 
          LIKE, LIKE COULD YOU PUT THE SOFTBALL FIELDS UP FRONT, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, WHAT I'M SAYING IS JUST OPEN UP THE 
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MORE PASSIVE STUFF FIRST THAT'S IN THE FRONT SO THAT PEOPLE ARE AT LEAST ABLE TO GO OUT AND PLAY, WALK ALONG THE RIVER AND NOT DOING WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR THE WHOLE REASON FOR THE PARK. 
          NO, JUST PUTTING IT OFF UNTIL LATER. 
          'CAUSE IT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE THING, AND IT'S ON THE BACKSIDE, WHICH COULD REMAIN CLOSED FOR NOW. 
          BUT IT WAS ALSO JUST TO, JUST TO REMIND COUNSEL, IT WAS ALSO YOUR, THE, THE MOST REQUESTED BY IT WAS THE PUBLIC, SO I'M NOT SAYING SCRAP IT. 
          YEAH, I'M ALMOST, THAT'S WHY I WAS LIKE SAYING, I'M JUST THROWING THAT BACK OUT. 
          ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE, OBVIOUSLY. 
          RIGHT? WELL, IT'S GOING BACK TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ER SAID THE TRAIL WILL BE DONE. 
          IT'S, IT'S PART OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT, SO THAT LINEAR TRAIL WOULD BE LEAVE THERE. 
          SO, NO, I, IT'S FROM IT. 
          I THOUGHT OF IT FROM WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ZURICH SAID, IF YOU CAN GET SOME RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY IT, MAYBE IT'S NOT WHAT WE ALL HAD ENVISIONED JUST YET, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN USE. 
          YEAH. 
          MY MY COMMENTS WERE, UH, AS MUCH AS YOU COULD BEING, THE FIRST PART OF IT WAS THE SOFTBALL FIELDS, AND THEN ANYTHING ELSE ON TOP OF THAT. 
          I THINK IT WAS LOUD AND CLEAR THAT THIS NEEDED, IT WOULD ALMOST MAKE MORE SENSE FOR, TO ASK HIM, COULD YOU FIT THOSE SOFTBALL FIELDS ON THIS SIDE OF THE THING SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD THE BRIDGE YET, AND WE COULD BUILD THE BRIDGE LATER. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY WOULD'VE DONE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I DON'T WANNA PAY FOR THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T WANT PLAY TO HAVE IT ALL DONE. 
          YEAH. 
          TO HAVE IT REDONE. 
          NO, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M SAYING THAT'S THE ONLY THING, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE THOUGH, I THINK. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. 
          UM, WELL, THANK YOU COUNSEL. 
          UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE, A COUPLE TOUGH PROJECTS IN THE, UH, IN THE PARK RANGE. 
          UH, KUDOS FOR MARK, TRYING TO MOVE THEM FORWARD. 
          BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO BACK UP. 
          UH, WHOOPS, UH, I DON'T WANNA GO THERE YET. 
          UM, JUST, UH, REAL QUICK FOR THE, UH, FOR YOURSELVES AND THE PUBLIC TO, UH, SEE KIND OF THE MAPS OF, UH, WHERE WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THE, UM, PART PROJECTS, UH, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD AND, AND, AND WHERE THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT IS, UM, AS RELATED TO THE CITY. 
          UM, DISCUSS THAT ONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, THIS, THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, A LITTLE, A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING. 
          UM, 2023 AND 24 WERE THE, THE PROJECTS ARE BALANCED, MEANING THAT, UM, WE, WE HAVE FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE 56 PROJECTS, UM, EITHER THROUGH CONSTRUCTION OR DESIGN. 
          UM, AS, AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. 
          WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS FUNDS FOR, UH, THESE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD, WHICH IS THIS SLIDE AND THIS SLIDE. 
          AND SO, UM, I'M GONNA BACK UP. 
          YOU CAN SEE THERE'S QUITE A FEW. 
          THE ONES IN ARE RED , I GET, YES MA'AM. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S ONE OR TWO. 
          UM, THE ONES IN ARE RED ARE HOW WE SEE OUR MUST HAVES, MEANING THAT IN 2025 WE PROBABLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT, UM, AS A COUNCIL AND AS A CITY, THE DEBT WE WANNA TAKE OUT TO MAKE THOSE PROJECTS HAPPEN. 
          UM, AND SO SOME OF THOSE ARE, UM, UH, THE RONALD REAGAN, UH, PUMP STATION CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WE HAVE ON DESIGN, BUT WE DON'T, WE WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE TO, AND SOME OF THIS VARIES BECAUSE WE ARE GONNA GET REVENUE FROM IMPACT FEE STUDIES AND STUFF IN, IN 25. 
          WE JUST DON'T KNOW REALLY HOW MUCH THAT MIGHT BE OR WHERE THAT IS. 
          SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A SLIDING SCALE IN THERE. 
          UH, WHEN YOU SEE THE COST, THESE ARE WHAT WE THINK WOULD BE TO, TO CONSTRUCT ANY ITEM ON HERE. 
          THE FUNDING MAY COME FROM IMPACT FEES OR OTHER SOURCES, UM, TO INCLUDE POTENTIAL COS AND THAT'S WHY IT SAYS POTENTIAL COS. 
          SO, UM, SO THE WATER PROJECTS, UM, THOSE, THOSE ARE ALL I SEE AS, AS MUST HAVE. 
          AND YOU, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE IN 25 AND, AND THAT'S ABOUT THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO, TO PURSUE THOSE. 
          UM, THE ONE FOR THE WASTEWATER ONE IS THE NORTH, UH, BUSHY CREEK, AND THAT'S A SEGMENT THAT RIGHT NOW IS ALMOST SURGING. 
          IT'S A 15 INCH LINE THAT NEEDS TO BE TO A 21 INCH LINE. 
          THERE'S SEVERAL OTHERS, BUT THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S THE MOST CRITICAL. 
          AND, UM, WHAT HAPPENS IF IT'S, IF IT SURGES OR OVERS, SURGES, THEN IT LITERALLY COMES OUT THE MAN HOSE AND YOU, AND YOU HAVE, UM, AN OVERFLOW, WHICH IS A A T C Q VIOLATION. 
          YOU CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THAT. 
          UM, THE, THE NEXT SLIDES ARE, ARE A COUPLE ROADS, AND, UM, THE TOP TWO ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT. 
          THE, THE TOP ONE IS THE ONE THAT WE REDIRECTED FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE RAWAY PROJECT. 
          AND SO THAT ONE'S 
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DESIGNED, WE COULD HAVE THAT ONE GO AS SOON AS WE GET THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK BUILT NEXT YEAR. 
          WE COULD PUT THAT ONE OUT FOR DESIGN. 
          SO IF WE WANTED TO, WE COULD TAKE OUT DEBT TO GET THAT ONE GOING SOONER THAN LATER. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE THE ROAD IMPACT FEES THAT ARE GONNA BE STARTING IN 24, BUT ESSENTIALLY THERE'S NOT A REAL REVENUE SOURCE FOR ROADS. 
          UM, EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE BILLING UP ON OR HAS BEEN EITHER GEO OR COS FOR THE MOST PART. 
          THE SECOND PHASE OF THAT IS OF COURSE, PHASE THREE, AND THAT ONE WILL BE READY TO, TO CONSTRUCT IN 25. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE TWO TOGETHER, AND IF WE DID WAIT TO 25, WHICH IS NOT A HUGE DEAL, UM, BUT THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CONCERN FROM THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA ABOUT OF COURSE, GETTING AT LEAST PHASE TWO MOVING FORWARD, UM, DOWN TO RONALD REAGAN. 
          UM, REGARDLESS, THAT'S PROBABLY I AROUND A $15 MILLION THAT PROJECT. 
          AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S A MUST HAVE THAT THE, THOSE, THAT SECTION OF TRANSPORTATION IS NEEDED THROUGH THERE. 
          I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          SURE. 
          WHY IS IT A MUST HAVE AND NOT A NICE TO HAVE? WHAT, WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS IF IT'S NOT DONE? IT'S, IT'S THE AMOUNT OF, UH, TRAFFIC THAT'S, THAT GOES THROUGH THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THROUGH THAT AREA IS TO GET AROUND. 
          AND THEN THERE'S TWO, TWO SCHOOL, ONE SCHOOL. 
          THERE'S ONE SCHOOL FOR SURE. 
          UM, IN THAT AREA. 
          IT'S JUST THE SHEER NUMBER OF, OF, OF TRAFFIC THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED IN THAT AREA. 
          ARE WE GETTING BOTTLENECKS? UH, YES. 
          UM, TO A CERTAIN DEGREE. 
          AND, AND THAT'S WHAT, AND YEAH, COMPLAINTS. 
          WELL, I, I MEAN, , BUT, BUT, UH, SAN GABRIEL PHASE TWO WAS, HAS BEEN IN THE PROCESS PROBABLY ON THE BOOKS FOR, UM, A PERIOD OF TIME. 
          UM, UNFORTUNATELY, AND WE TALKED ABOUT EASEMENTS, WE REALLY JUST FINISHED UP THE EASEMENTS LAST YEAR. 
          THEY TOOK A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT, MORE TIME THAN THEY PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE. 
          AND, BUT WE CUT THOSE ALL KNOCKED OUT AND GOT THE DESIGN DONE, UM, WHILE WE DELAYED IT. 
          AND WE JUST, THEY TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND, AND GOOD ON TONY FOR, FOR LOOKING AT IT AS, UH, WHEN HE WENT OUT IN THE FIELD AND WE WERE TRYING TO BID THE ELEVATED STORAGE SINK, WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP. 
          THE STEEP SECTION WAS, WAS, COULD HAVE BEEN DONE, BUT IT WAS REALLY JUST DIFFICULT. 
          SO WE SAID, WHAT IF WE USE THAT ROAD? AND YOU SAW THE PICTURE OF IT AS A CONSTRUCTION ROAD TO GET TO THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK SO WE COULD CONSTRUCT IT EASIER. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE. 
          SO WE DELAYED THAT PROJECT. 
          SO, UM, AND PROBABLY GOOD BECAUSE WE DELAYED IT, WHICH WAS, UH, FORTUNATE THAT WE COULD USE IT FOR THE RIGHT WAY TO KEEP THE RIGHT WAY MOVING. 
          AND I THINK IT WORKED OUT BEAUTIFULLY. 
          UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE STILL NEED TO HAVE THAT RULE CONSTRUCTED. 
          UM, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH PHASE THREE RIGHT AWAY, BUT PHASE TWO FOR SURE, TO GET PEOPLE DOWN TO THE MAIN CORRIDOR OF RONALD REAGAN, SO THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY AROUND DIFFERENT PATHS TO GET TO THERE. 
          RIGHT NOW. 
          IT'S THAT IT'S PALMA'S, THE PRIMARY EXIT BEEN REQUESTING. 
          WE'VE BEEN AT SITE DISTANCES REALLY BAD AT PALMERO RIDGE, UH, LOTS OF NEAR ACCIDENTS, ACCIDENTS. 
          UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING IN AND OUT OF THE, UM, THE SUBDIVISION, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY ADVOCATING FOR A SIGNAL THERE, BUT IT ISN'T REALLY APPROPRIATE. 
          SO IF YOU, WHEN YOU DO ACTUALLY HAVE SAN GABRIEL GO THROUGH, THEN YOU HAVE SAN GABRIEL AND A, AND PALMERA RIGHT THERE TWO SIGNALS. 
          SO YOU, YEAH. 
          SO YOU'RE DIVERTING THEM DOWN TO SAN GABRIEL INSTEAD OF OUT TO REAGAN. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, ST. 
          GABRIEL WOULD HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT, RIGHT? SO OUR PREFERENCE IS THAT SIGNAL, BUT RIGHT NOW EVERYONE'S ASKING FOR A SIGNAL PALM, OKAY? SO WE DON'T WANT 'EM THAT CLOSE TOGETHER. 
          SO REALLY THAT ROAD SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT ALREADY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, KIND OF THING. 
          SO, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MARY, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY A STAFF IS THINKING. 
          UM, I MUST HAVE, THANK YOU. 
          AND THE, AND THE SAME WITH YON. 
          UM, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAS TO, UM, AND THE BUSINESS HAS TO DRIVE, UM, OUT AND IT'S, UM, IT'S NOT A PARTICULARLY GOOD INTERSECTION ONTO, UM, CRYSTAL FALLS. 
          AND IF WE BUILT THIS SECTION OF IT, IT WOULD TO GET HIM TO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW, UM, MUCH BETTER MANAGEMENT OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA FOR THE PEOPLE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, TRYING TO HAVE TO CROSS, UM, CONSTANTLY HAVING TO CROSS THROUGH, UM, CRYSTAL FALLS ROAD. 
          THAT'S A FOUR-LANE ROAD. 
          SO, UM, A LITTLE DIFFICULT. 
          THE OTHER ONE'S ON THAT LIST THERE, THERE'S A COUPLE, SO I'M SORRY, ON UP PINE GROVE LANE, I DON'T SEE IT CONNECTING TO CRYSTAL FALLS. 
          SO, UM, WHAT IT IS, IT RUNS PARALLEL, RIGHT? IT'S PARALLEL, RIGHT, AND CONNECTS TO ARTESIAN SPRINGS. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA FI THAT'S PART OF THE PROJECT IS TO FINISH THAT WHOLE CORNER. 
          IT DEAD ENDS. 
          WHAT DO YOU FINISH THAT WHOLE CORNER? IT, IT SEE THE, THE 
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DEVELOPMENT PUT A, UM, A DEAD END THERE. 
          WELL, IF YOU WANNA SAY, UH, CONNECTION POINT, AND WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD ACTUALLY CONNECT THE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THROUGH THE PARALLEL, UM, TO THE VETERINARIAN CLINIC THAT'S THERE, AND THEN TO THE LIGHT. 
          SO WE LIGHT, WE WOULD BUILD THE WHOLE, WE WOULD BUILD THE WHOLE CORNER OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          AND I, I WANTED TO, UH, DAN FOR A SECOND, LET, UH, RANDALL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY, UH, IF WE COMPLETED THE SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY. 
          SURE, ABSOLUTELY. 
          UH, SIGNIFICANT, UM, INTEREST IN, IN, IN THAT AREA, UH, IN PARTICULAR. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, WOULD BE A IMPORTANT, UH, C I P PROJECT. 
          DO WE ALREADY HAVE ZONING? NOT AT THIS TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, SO REAL QUICK TO, TO KIND OF WRAP UP THE STREETS, UM, THE, THE NEXT SEVERAL PROJECTS, WE HAD THE TRAFFIC STUDY DONE, UM, FOR RONALD REAGAN. 
          AND, UM, IT RECOMMENDED SEVERAL PROJECTS. 
          SO THE NEXT, THE NEXT FOUR PROJECTS ARE, ARE THOSE THAT WOULD HELP THE TRAFFIC MITIGATION ALONG RONALD REAGAN, UM, TO BETTER MANAGE IT. 
          UM, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COUNTY'S PROJECT OF TURNING THAT INTO A CONTROLLED ACCESS ROAD, BASICALLY A FREEWAY AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. 
          THIS IS IMMEDIATE, UM, UPGRADES TO THE RONALD REAGAN TO HELP MITIGATE TRAFFIC UNTIL THAT HAPPENS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. 
          THEN THE LAST TWO REAL QUICK, IS THE ONE WE, ONE THING DAN ON THAT ONE YOU MIGHT WANNA MENTION, AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, THE COMMISSIONER AS WELL IS, IS, UH, I EVEN SPOKE TO HER, UH, YESTERDAY EVENING. 
          WE TRIED TO CONNECT SEVERAL TIMES, BUT THEY'RE DEFINITELY IN THE POSITIVE, POTENTIALLY AT, ON THE POTENTIAL SIGNAL, UH, BAR W BETWEEN BAR W AND RANCHO SIENNA, UH, AT POSSIBLY PARTNERING AT 50% ON THAT ONE, UH, WITH US, UH, RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT FULL SIGNAL WOULD BE RIGHT AT A MILLION. 
          AND UH, THEY DEFINITELY, UM, ARE THERE WITH US ON, BECAUSE THERE'S SCHOOLS ON BOTH SIDES THAT ARE GOING TO BE OPEN. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF LIBERTY HILL, I S D MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO KICK IN SOMETHING AS WELL. 
          BUT, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE OVERALL CORRIDOR STUDY, I THINK AS WELL. 
          AND, AND DAN, I THINK IS PLUGGED IN WITH BOB DAY AND IT WAS ENGINEERING TEAM. 
          THERE WAS, UM, FIVE TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THAT STUDY, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT SOME, UM, TONY AND I WERE LOOKING AT THE MORE IMMEDIATE ONES LEFT HAND TURNS AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD HELP, UM, MOVE TRAFFIC ALONG. 
          UM, SO, UH, THE LAST TWO THERE WAS ONE WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE ROAD, UM, REHAB. 
          UM, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME BUDGET IN 24 FROM A, FROM A, A DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT'S SUCH A GREAT PROGRAM THAT, UM, AT SOME POINT WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING MORE OF A C I P. 
          UM, AND THAT'S WHY THAT IS KIND OF NEAR THINKING AHEAD FOR 25. 
          AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS VERY SIMILAR TO THAT, WHEN WE TOOK OUT THE DEBT FOR THE THREE SIGNALS, WHICH WAS HERO WAY, SUNNY, AND COLLABORATIVE, WHICH IS, UM, UNDER DESIGN AND, AND SHOULD BE OUT FOR BIDS. 
          UM, HOPEFULLY THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS YEAR, IF NOT THIS, THIS FALL. 
          UM, WE'RE WORKING ON A, IT'S ALWAYS EASEMENTS. 
          WE'RE WORKING OUT THE EASEMENT WITH THE, WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON, ON AN EASEMENT THAT WE NEED, UM, THROUGH THERE. 
          BUT AGAIN, TO PUT THREE MORE TRAFFIC SIGNALS ON THE C I P LIST, UH, AND TO INCLUDE AT LEAST PROBABLY ONE OF 'EM ON RONALD REAGAN. 
          BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT, UM, PROBABLY NEED TO DESIGN AND, AND CONSTRUCTED AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, SO, UM, THEN, THEN OF COURSE WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT PARKS, UM, AND, UH, YOU, YOU CAN SEE THE KIND OF UP TO AMOUNT, UM, AND THAT'LL NEED HARDER DISCUSSIONS. 
          THE SAME WITH THE REC CENTER AND, AND GOLF COURSE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO I WON'T BELABOR THAT, BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE ON THE LIST FOR, FOR FUTURE THOUGHT AND POSSIBLE DEBT, IF, IF THAT'S NEEDED. 
          AND I WILL GO BACK, UH, TO, I THINK WHICH IS, UH, PROBABLY THE HARDEST SUBJECT, BUT, UM, ONE THAT'S NEEDED IS, UH, WHAT THE CITY SEES IS THE FUTURE CONDITION FOR, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S GONNA BE A, A CITY HALL OR, UH, THE NEW POLICE STATION, FIRE STATION AND PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY. 
          UM, I WOULD PUT PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY AT THE TOP BECAUSE, UM, I'VE BEEN OVER TO CEDAR PARK AND ROUND ROCK AND, AND THEY ARE TAJ MHA AS I CALL 'EM, BUT THEY ARE, THEY'RE NICE. 
          AND, UM, BUT, UH, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE MADE SOME REALLY NICE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, MIKE AND, UH, OTHERS HAVE MADE SOME NICE IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR AREA AND WE'VE ADDED SOME OFFICES AND EVERYTHING. 
          SO IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY LOOKING PRETTY GOOD OVER THERE. 
          UM, 
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LAID DOWN SOME, UM, KIND OF SOME ASPHALT LEFTOVER FROM THE MILLING, SO WE GOT TO REUSE THAT, AND THAT'S TURNED OUT AND IT'S, UM, LOWERED THE DUST IN THAT AREA, AND I'M SURE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS JUST LIKE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, SO, UM, WE'VE MADE SOME GOOD IMPROVEMENTS OVER THERE, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS THROUGH THIS ON THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION, UH, TO, TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          BUT THE OVERARCHING OF, OF THESE SLIDES WAS TO GIVE YOU A FEEL FOR THE POTENTIAL FUTURE DEBT THAT THE CITY MAY ENCUMBER OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. 
          AND SO PART OF THE NEXT SLIDE I'LL SHOW, AND I ONLY GOT A COUPLE MORE LEFT, IS THE NEXT STEP, IS THAT, UH, WE ARE WORKING ON A FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR THE C I P. 
          UM, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A POSITION OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO FACILITATE GETTING INTO A, A BOOK THAT'S SIMPLE AND, AND LAID OUT NICELY. 
          AND, AND WE HAVE A HANDLE ON IT. 
          I, I THINK, AND FINALLY HAVE A, A PROJECT MANAGER IN PLACE. 
          WE'VE GONE THROUGH A COUPLE THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, UM, TONY'S THERE AND HE LOVES WHAT HE'S DOING, SO HE'S GONNA STAY  AND, AND, AND THAT'S HALF THE BATTLE. 
          UM, UM, SO, BUT THE FIVE YEAR PLAN IS OUR NEXT ONE. 
          THAT'S THE NEXT ONE WE'RE TRYING TO TACKLE. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN THIS ONE IS JUST FOR THE COUNCIL TO BE THINKING, YOU KNOW, BIG PICTURE, BIG VISION, THINGS OF, OF WHAT'S COMING FORWARD. 
          SO I I, I WON'T TAKE ANY MORE TIME ON, ON THOSE. 
          UM, CERTAINLY A GOOD THOUGHT AND DISCUSSION. 
          UH, GO AHEAD, MAYOR. 
          BEFORE WE, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT ON THE ANNUAL C I P BOOK, I THINK COUNCIL, WE'RE PROBABLY ALL GOOD WITH JUST RECEIVING THAT IN P D F AS WELL AND SAVING ON THOSE PRINTING COSTS. 
          EH, I'M GONNA GET MY HARD COPY. 
          SO YOU MAY , WE WILL SAVE OURS TO GOOD READER , YES, CITY MANAGER ON THE, UH, FACILITIES WITH THE CITY HALL. 
          THE NEXT PHASE OF PLANNING WE'RE GONNA GO INTO, AND I THINK IT'S ALSO A GOOD EXERCISE GOING THROUGH THIS TOO, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMY, THE TAX RATE, THE BOND DEBT, WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES RIGHT NOW. 
          AND SO WE NEED TO BE VERY COST EFFECTIVE LOOKING OUT 20, 30 YEARS ON FACILITIES. 
          WE OF COURSE, ARE ENGAGED ON ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE, WE'RE AWARE OF THAT. 
          AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES HERE IN OLD TOWN WITH THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN, THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY. 
          IT MAY BE A SHUFFLING OF THE DECK AND IT STILL DOESN'T RULE OUT SOME OF OUR LARGE OTHER LARGE POTENTIAL SITES LIKE NORTHLINE. 
          BUT I'D ALSO WANNA POINT OUT WE HAVE THE HOTEL MOTEL STUDY THAT'S OUT THERE AS WELL. 
          SO ALL OF THOSE PIECES, THE PLANNING THAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS GONNA HELP MAKE DECISIONS ON THESE AND ALSO KEEP IT DOWN TO A REASONABLE LEVEL. 
          IT STILL WON'T BE CHEAP. 
          I MEAN, YOU CAN ADD IT ALL TOGETHER AND YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY MORE THAN NOTHING. 
          UH, BUT I ALSO SENT YOU ALL SOME ARTICLES MAYBE NOT TOO LONG AGO ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE LARGER THAN US THAT CAN'T MAKE BUDGET RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THEY'VE HAD MAJOR CAPITAL OVERRUNS DUE TO SUPPLY CHAIN AND THEIR FACILITY DEVELOPMENTS IN RECENT, VERY RECENT HISTORY. 
          I THINK ONE OF 'EM I SENT YOU, THEY HAD A $10 MILLION OVERRUN ON THEIR HOTEL CONVENTION FACILITY THAT THEY HAD TO FILL, AND NOW THE REVENUES ARE DOWN. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ROBERT, I KNOW HE OVERUSES THE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SUGGEST DOING ANYTHING THAT IS NOT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. 
          AND WE ARE GONNA TAKE EVERYTHING TO ACCOUNT. 
          AND SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SLOW THE PROCESS, BUT WE DO NOT WANNA RUN HEADLONG INTO A BAD DECISION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS, YOU MANAGER. 
          UM, SO, UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, ON SOME OF THESE COSTS, UM, THE, THE FACILITY COSTS CAME FROM THE STUDY THAT WE DID, AND SO I'M SURE IT'S, UM, A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE IN A SENSE OF BEING SAFE. 
          UM, ONCE YOU GET INTO THE DETAILS, KINDA LIKE THE GOLF COURSE, THEN, THEN COSTS REALLY COME OUT AND YOU CAN DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT OR NOT WANT. 
          THESE ARE KIND OF, UH, UM, NOT SO MUCH THE WATER ONES. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY SOLID, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER ONES ARE, YOU KNOW, UM, KIND OF BASED ON SOME MASTER PLANS OR SOME STUDIES THAT WERE DONE. 
          AND SO THERE COULD BE SOME EFFICIENCY OF, OF COSTS OF CERTAINLY ASSOCIATED WITH ANY ONE OF THESE. 
          AGAIN, BIG PICTURE, UM, UP UNTIL 24 WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE LOOKING GOOD. 
          UM, BUT NOW FROM 25 GOING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT, UH, DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO. 
          UM, THE ONE THING WE DO HAVE, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE ALL ON BOARD WITH THE COUNCIL, IS THAT WATER IS PRETTY SOLID. 
          AND OUR, WE'RE LOOKING AT 27 ISH, EARLY 28, AND THAT WE'RE GONNA BE SET. 
          AND, UH, THE PLANS FOR THAT TO INCLUDE THESE IN THE RED ARE THE ONES THAT, WHAT I'M SAYING MUST HAVE, ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO MOVE FORWARD SO THAT WE HAVE THAT 44 MILLION 
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GALLONS PER DAY CAPABILITY. 
          AND THE IDEA OF MANAGING PEAKING FACTOR. 
          ANY OTHER THINGS FOR THE CITY? SO, UM, I'M, I'M, I'M JUST REAL QUICK. 
          WE, WE'VE DISCUSSED MANY OF THESE, UM, ALREADY. 
          UM, AND SO JUST KIND OF A, A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED ABOUT THE PARKS, UM, THE, THE FACILITIES, WHAT WE, WHAT WE WANT TO, WHERE WE NEED TO BUY LAND, WHAT WE WANT TO BUILD FIRST. 
          UM, FOR UTILITIES, UM, I TALKED ABOUT THE MUST-HAVES THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT ESPECIALLY THE WATER ONES, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE, WE SERIOUSLY HAVE TO LOOK AT, UM, REAL QUICK, THE, THE REMIND FOLKS THAT NOT ONLY WE HAVE ALL THAT'S GOING ON WITH THE, WITH THE CITY, BUT WE DO HAVE THE REGIONAL, UM, B C R A PLANT THAT'S MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND, UM, YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW, PHASE TWO AND PHASE ONE D ARE BOTH NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND PHASE TWO IS ACTUALLY DOING REALLY WELL. 
          UM, THE NEXT WEEKLY I'LL, I'LL SEND YOU SOME TUNNEL PHOTOS ARE FANTASTIC. 
          IMPRESSIVE , I'M GONNA STICK WITH MY IMPRESSIVE. 
          THEY, THEY, THEY REALLY ARE. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUPER IMPRESSIVE. 
          UM, THAT WHOLE TEAM DOWN HERE IS, UM, IS DOING A, UM, A REALLY GOOD JOB. 
          AND THEN, UM, JUST TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT JUST FOR A MINUTE, 'CAUSE WE, WE SPENT ON IT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, DEBT, WE, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS, UM, PERSONALLY I THINK IT IS, RIGHT. 
          AND WE'VE, WE'VE ACQUIRED MONEY FROM OTHER FOLKS, UM, TO INCLUDE ARPA AND CAP METRO, AND THEN WE USE SWIFT FUNDS AND, UM, UM, GOT A REALLY GOOD, YOU KNOW, SWIFT FUNDS IS ABOUT AS, AS, AS FREE AS MONEY AS YOU CAN GET. 
          'CAUSE USUALLY THE INTEREST RATE IS SUPER LOW TO HELP PEOPLE FACILITATE BUILDING PROJECTS. 
          AND SO, UH, WE'VE WORKED THROUGH, UH, SEVERAL OF THESE AND TO INCLUDE HOPEFULLY GETTING SOME WILCO BOND MONEY FOR ROADS TO ADD ONTO THAT. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, AS A REMINDER, UM, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO TRACK, UM, LOT, LOTS OF DIFFERENT FUNDING TO SUPPORT ALL THESE PROJECTS. 
          UM, JUST KIND OF, UH, THE OTHER ONE WAS AMOUNT, THESE ARE THE OTHER ONES THAT JUST KIND OF SHOW THE OTHER AREAS THAT, UH, FUNDS THAT WE GET, WHICH IS, UM, OF COURSE THE IMPACT FEES BOTH FOR WATER WASTE, UH, WATER AND ROADS AND PARKS. 
          AND THEN, UM, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDINGS OR GRANTS IF, IF POSSIBLE. 
          SOMETIMES THEY'RE JUST, UM, THE AMOUNT THAT YOU GET FOR THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU PUT IN IS, IS QUESTIONABLE , AND THAT'S THE, THE POSITION THAT ROBERT TALKED ABOUT TO BE HELPFUL IN SOME OF THAT. 
          UM, NEXT STEPS, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE CONTINUING WITH DESIGN CONSTRUCTION. 
          UM, I MENTIONED ALREADY THE, THE NEXT STEP FOR US AS A C I P TEAM IS THE FIVE YEAR PLAN. 
          THEY TRY TO GET SOMETHING FOR, UM, FOR EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT. 
          IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE LONG TERM. 
          UM, WE ARE GONNA WORK IN PARALLEL WITH THE BUDGET TO HAVE THE C I P BOOK COMPLETED. 
          UM, UH, FINANCE AND US WORK VERY CLOSE TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT, UM, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING ALL THE POSSIBLE SUCCESSES AND DOWNFALLS OF, OF WHERE WE'RE HEADING. 
          AND SO, WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          AND A LARGE ONE I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, UM, WAS THE LOOKING AT FUTURE DEBT AND, UH, WHAT THAT'LL BE AND, AND WHAT WE'LL NEED IT FOR. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE STANDING BY FOR ALL THE HARD QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, COUNSEL. 
          I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING RECLAIM WATER, THAT'S JUST THE PURPLE PIPES, RIGHT? THAT IS THE PURPLE PIPE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO , IT'S NOT ANYTHING IN LIKE NEEDED IN THE NEXT YEAR, BUT IT'D BE NICE TO SEE LIKE WHERE ALL THE PURPLE PIPES IN THE CITY AND AS WE ADD ON JUST TO KIND OF COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES, JUST SO, BECAUSE THAT IS A IMPROVEMENT TO WATER. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IF WE CAN KIND OF TELL THAT STORY AND COMPARE OURSELVES TO OTHER CITIES. 
          I MEAN, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE NOW, BUT IT'D BE NICE TO SEE, I KNOW LAKEWOOD PARK HAS SOME PURPLE PIPE MM-HMM. 
          . 
          MM-HMM. 
          , NO TRIVI. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT REALIZE TR YEAH. 
          TRA VISA DOES. 
          IT'S KIND OF A, I I WOULD SAY THIS ONE WOULD BE OUR TRUE FIRST PURPLE PIPE. 
          YEAH, SURE. 
          SO IT'S SUPPLEMENTED WITH SOME RAW WATER, RIGHT? IT'S NOT FULLY RECLAIMED WATER EVERYWHERE, BUT, AND I KNOW WE REMIND PEOPLE ALL THE TIME, BUT PEOPLE FORGET THAT THE, THE GOLF COURSE AND THE WATER FOUNTAINS AND WHEN WE'RE HAVING WATER ISSUES THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY USING RECLAIMED WATER. 
          SO I THINK IT TELLS A GOOD STORY TO KIND OF SHOW HOW WE'RE BUILDING THAT OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          THE GOLF COURSE DEFINITELY USES THEIR, THEIR RECLAIM WATER. 
          AND THAT IS A SUCCESS 'CAUSE CUSTOMERS HAVE ASKED, HEY, WE SEE 'EM. 
          AND, AND, UM, MOST CITIES ARE, YEAH, MOST CITIES ARE USING RECLAIM FOR GOLF COURSES OR OTHER LARGE, UH, 
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PARKS. 
          AND WE, UM, AND OURS IS A TYPE TWO, UM, UM, DISCHARGE. 
          SO THAT'S EVEN BETTER. 
          SO WE CAN ACTUALLY USE IT FOR ACTUALLY MORE, MORE THINGS. 
          UM, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YEAH. 
          SO THERE'S TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO, AND IT'S HOW MUCH YOU, YOU, YOU TREAT IT CONTACT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THEN POTENTIAL HUMAN, IT'S ALMOST POTENTIAL HUMAN CONTACT. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
           NO, NONE OF IT'S, WELL, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE THAT WAS PUT OUT ABOUT GETTING RID OF THE YUCK FACTOR ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BECAUSE THERE IS A CITY IN TEXAS THAT IS FACILITATING DOING THAT. 
          AND, UM, THAT, THAT MAY HAPPEN. 
          ONE OF THE THOUGHT PROCESSES ACTUALLY PUTTING IT IN UNDERGROUND, WHICH IS CALLED AN AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY. 
          SO YOU PUT YOUR REUSE UNDERGROUND AND UM, AND BUILD IT UP. 
          AND THEN WHEN IT, WHEN IT, UH, THIS PUMP BACK OUT, YOU, YOU TREAT IT NORMALLY, BUT IT'S A WAY TO STORE IT. 
          SAN ANTONIO DID A GREAT JOB WITH THEIR A S R. 
          THEY THOUGHT THEY'D ONLY GET ABOUT 60,000 ACRE FEET UNDERGROUND. 
          THEY HAVE LIKE ALMOST 300,000 ACRE FEET UNDERGROUND. 
          JUST TO PUT THAT IN COMPARISON. 
          LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI IS 295 OR 250 ACRE FEET. 
          THEY HAVE 300,000 ACRE FEET. 
          SO IT'S A SMALL LAKE UNDERGROUND THAT SAN ANTONIO HAS, WHICH IS IMPRESSIVE. 
          A LAKE THAT DOESN'T EVAPORATE A LAKE THAT DOESN'T EVAPORATE. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT. 
          SO, UM, I KNOW AUSTIN IS LOOKING AT AN AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY AND, UM, GEORGETOWN'S KIND OF TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT WITH ROUND ROCK, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OFF IN A DISTANCE AND YOU HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT LOCATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, SO FORTH. 
          BUT, UM, YEAH, WE, WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT EVERY POSSIBLE WAY TO USE WATER. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I JUST HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS AND THANKS FOR THE C I P UPDATE. 
          I THINK THIS IS GREAT. 
          SO A M I, WHEN YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, WE'LL HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER IT, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE IF PEOPLE ARE WATERING MORE THAN ONCE A WEEK, OR YES, WE WILL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN WE COULD PAIR THAT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          YES. 
          HATE FOR IT TO BE BIG BROTHER, BUT I'VE SEEN IT'S BIG BROTHER NEWS IN GEORGETOWN WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT FOLLOWING AND THEY'RE GETTING THE VIOLATIONS. 
          SO YEAH, JUST SO I USE CORPUS AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          WHEN WE WERE THERE, I LITERALLY TOOK MY OWN  MY OWN SHEET, AND YOU COULD LITERALLY SEE WHEN MY IRRIGATION CAME ON AT 1201 AND THEN TURNED OFF AND MY, MY WATER WOULD SPIKE. 
          NOW, THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF ADVANTAGES. 
          YOU CAN REMIND CUSTOMERS THAT IF THEIR SYSTEM ISN'T WORKING RIGHT, IF THEY, IF THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD IT TIMED, BUT IT'S ALSO, IF, IF IT DOESN'T GO BACK TO ZERO, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE A LEAK SOMEWHERE. 
          AND SO WHEN YOU DON'T SEE YOUR GRAPH GO BACK TO ZERO, THAT THAT MEANS YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT YOUR SYSTEM TO SEE, HEY, WHY IS IT NOT GOING BACK TO ZERO? AND THE SYSTEM CAN EVEN FLAG THOSE. 
          SO IT CAN SEND SOMEBODY AN EMAIL SAYING, OH, BY THE WAY, YOUR SYSTEM HASN'T GONE TO ZERO, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          AND, UM, SOME HAVE THE CAPABILITY WHERE IF A CUSTOMER WANTS TO SET IT FOR SOMETHING, THEY CAN NATURALLY GET A THING SAYING, I USE TOO MUCH WATER. 
          UM, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TELL THAT SOMEBODY'S WATERING MORE THAN ONCE A WEEK. 
          IT'S NOT JUST USAGE, IT'S ACTUALLY LIKE, I MEAN, HOW WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO TELL THAT THE GALLONS PER MINUTE? YEAH. 
          SO THE HIGHER FLOW OF YOUR IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS NOT A NORMAL OKAY. 
          HOUSEHOLD USE. 
          SO IT MARKS THAT AS AN EVENT AND YES, IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TRACK AND MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          SO DANA, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MERGING YOUR BRAIN WITH ALBERT  AND AI, UM, BIG BROTHER. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO JUST A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. 
          SO THE, THE B C R U A PROJECTS ARE THOSE LISTED ON THE WEBSITE FOR US, FOR OUR CITY CITIZENS TO SEE WHAT'S COMING? 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF OUR WEBSITE OF LETTING PEOPLE KNOW ALL THE WATER IMPROVEMENTS, BUT ARE THOSE EXTERNAL PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT OURS ALSO ON THERE TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE DOING THIS TO KEEP YOUR WATER UP TO DATE. 
          I GOT CITY WEBSITE. 
          NOT, NOT IN THE SAME WAY THAT OUR, SOME OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE LISTED. 
          AND CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR C I P TEAM ON DOING, GETTING THE, THE BASIC DETAILS IN PLACE TOGETHER, TIMELINES AND SOME TYPE OF, UH, VISUAL MATERIALS THAT SUPPLEMENT THAT. 
          SO THE ANSWER IS NO. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S PART OF OUR OBJECTIVE. 
          UM, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER TODAY, UH, LAUNCHING THE NEW WEBSITE THAT THE CONTENT, OLD CONTENT AND IRRELEVANT CONTENT WE'RE SCRUBBING AWAY, BUT ALSO OPTIMIZING IT WHEN WE'VE DONE SO MUCH WORK NOW IN 56 ACTIVE PROJECTS. 
          BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT TOO. 
          AND HOW WE INCORPORATE THE VCR A PROJECT DETAILS IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT. 
          WE DO HAVE THEM LISTED, UM, UNDER OUR WATER PLANT, WHICH IS ON OUR, UM, LEANT.GOV/WATER PAGE. 
          IT'S PART OF THAT WATER PLAN. 
          IT'S WITHIN THAT LARGER DOCUMENT, BUT IT'S NOT SEPARATED OUT AS A SEPARATE PROJECT PAGE. 
          SO WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK AT DOING THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          MY LAST QUESTION IS SENIOR CENTER. 
          I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE AN ESTIMATED BREAKING GROUND UNTIL WE GET TO THAT NEXT PHASE, BUT 
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ARE WE ON TARGET? 'CAUSE WE HAD KIND OF COMMITTED TO BREAKING GROUND IN 2024, I BELIEVE. 
          SO. 
          ANY UPDATES ON THAT? MAYBE I'M LOOKING AT MR. S I I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, AND TONY, IF HE'S GOING LIKE THIS, BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BREAK GROUND IN 2024. 
          OKAY. 
          TONY LOOKS VERY HAPPY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          FIRST OFF, ARE YOU GREEN? THERE YOU GO. 
          UH, YES, WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE ABOUT 90% DRAWINGS ACTUALLY BEYOND THAT. 
          IT'S IN A PERMITTING PHASE RIGHT NOW. 
          WE'VE ACHIEVED THE, UH, SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. 
          WE'RE CLOSE TO IT ANYWAYS. 
          UH, SHOULD BE OBTAINING THE VERDICT SHORTLY, WHICH WE'RE HOPING WILL ALLOW US TO GO OUT TO BID HERE ABOUT SEPTEMBER. 
          UH, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO BREAK GROUND, EITHER BE BEFORE OR DURING, UH, UH, 24, DEFINITELY DURING F Y 24. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          THANKS. 
          JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YEAH, IF WE HAD A TARGET. 
          THANKS. 
          UM, AS FAR AS AS, AS FAR AS IT'S, UH, AGAIN, UM, IT'S SUCCESS STORY. 
          WE HAVE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE PROJECTS, UM, MOVING, MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND SO, UM, UM, THAT IS, THAT IS ONE OF 'EM, WE KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF IT. 
          AND SO IT'S, UH, IT'S CERTAINLY AT, AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. 
          UM, THE WATER ONES ARE STILL AT THE TOP OF MY LIST, SO , I LIKE, I LIKE THE WATER  AND I APPRECIATE THAT . 
          SO, UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED IT, LOOKING AT THE C I P PROJECTS OUT TO 25, LIKE, OR THE NEXT FEW YEARS, GETTING THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN, WHAT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE TOO, I GUESS ALONGSIDE THAT IS FROM THE HOW DO WE PAY FOR IT STANDPOINT, WHETHER IT'S, UM, GRANTS, BONDS, THE LOW INTEREST LOANS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT FOR LIKE IT'S LISTED IN HERE NOW. 
          IT'D BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF, I KNOW IT'S ISH, BUT TO BE ABLE TO MATCH IT A LITTLE BIT OF WHETHER OR NOT HOW WE'D BE ABLE TO FUND THESE PROJECTS, JUST LOOKING AT AN OVERALL BUDGET STANDPOINT. 
          THIS IS, I NOT A PIECE OF IT, BUT IT'S A LARGE PIECE OF THE BUDGET. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE A NICE VISUAL IF THAT'S EASY ENOUGH TO, UM, YES, I, I AGREE. 
          AND WE'LL WORK ON THAT. 
          UM, FOR SOME OF THE LONGER TERM, UM, GRANTS AND STUFF MAY BE, UM, VALID, BUT I'M GONNA JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, BEING STRAIGHTFORWARD FOR THE WATER PROJECTS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE COS AND DO THE, THE, I WOULD SAY URGENCY TO KEEP THOSE MOVING FORWARD AND MAYBE A COUPLE OF THE OTHERS. 
          UM, I, I CAN LET ROBERT SPEAK TO THAT, BUT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          I'M FROM A, FROM A STANDPOINT OF LOOKING FOR GRANTS AND STUFF, THOSE, THOSE ARE HA COMING HANDY. 
          UM, BUT FOR A FEW OF THESE, UM, WE, WE, WE NEED TO PROBABLY THINK WORST CASE SCENARIO AND AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE STAYING ON TRACK. 
          NO, ABSOLUTELY. 
          I DON'T THINK ANYBODY, ANYTHING SHOULD BE ON TRACK. 
          AND I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND THESE WATER PROJECTS HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          THEY'RE PRIORITY FOR ME ANYWAY, BUT I'M JUST, JUST TRYING TO THINK. 
          BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP THE, THE WHOLE THING, THE WHOLE RIGHT. 
          AND SO IT'S JUST AN EASY ENOUGH THING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE WATER PROJECTS, IT'S X NUMBER OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 
          UM, BUT THE, THE PLAN IS THAT, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S HOW WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT, BUT I DON'T, I'M NOT SAYING TO DROP THEM DOWN THE LIST AT ALL. 
          I THINK WE WERE BEHIND IN OUR WATER PROJECTS AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB IN THE WAY I THINK, UM, YOUR TEAM HAS ORGANIZED THE PROJECT SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SORT OF DOMINO 'EM. 
          I THINK IT'S BEEN GREAT. 
          AND SO I JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT CLEAR AND CONCISE, UM, JUST, JUST THE WAY IT TRACKS TOGETHER. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S ALL. 
          NO, ABSOLUTELY. 
          CONTINUE. 
          AND, AND I DO THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHY COUNSEL, YOU SEE OUR, UH, WATER MASTER PLAN, WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN, STORMWATER MASTER PLAN BECAUSE, UH, JUST LIKE OUR TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, WHICH WE'VE RECENTLY COMPLETED, IT GIVES YOU A MUCH FURTHER OUT TIMELINE ON PROJECTS THAT ARE NEEDED. 
          EVEN IF FUNDING ISN'T NECESSARILY IDENTIFIED YET. 
          UM, WE'RE A STEP AHEAD BY, BY KNOWING THOSE PROJECTS ARE, ARE, ARE IN OUR HORIZON. 
          AND SO NOW WE CAN FOCUS, UM, YEAR BY YEAR AND WE'LL GROW THAT C I P FORECAST A LITTLE BIT BETTER EVERY YEAR, WHICH, WHAT TYPES OF FUNDS ARE BEING USED. 
          AND HE MENTIONED COS IS KIND OF ADDRESSING THE URGENT PROJECTS WE KNOW WE HAVE TO HAVE REGARDLESS, BUT, UH, WE'RE ALSO SENSITIVE TO POTENTIAL FOR GENERAL OBLIGATION, NON-ELECTION BEING, BEING A BIG FACTOR IN THIS IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? I HAD A QUESTION AND MY APOLOGIES. 
          'CAUSE THIS IS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION AND IT DIDN'T COME BACK. 
          I THINK BECAUSE IT'S A FUTURE, FUTURE C I P AND THAT'S FIRE STATION NUMBER SEVEN. 
          WHEN YOU SHOW THE MAP IN THE BEGINNING, IT SHOWS FIRE 
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STATION NUMBER SEVEN WAY OUT ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF TOWN. 
          AND I WAS WONDERING, UM, WHY IT'S SO FAR OUT, SORRY. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, TONY WANTS TO CHIME IN ON ANY OF THIS. 
          SO I KNOW WE'VE WORKED IN COOPERATION WITH OTHER CITY STAFF TO FIND A SUITABLE LOCATION. 
          AND SO FOR STATION SEVEN, WHICH IS ON THAT WEST SIDE, UH, THAT'S SOME PROPERTY THAT THE CITY WAS ABLE TO SECURE OVER THERE, UM, THAT, UH, MEETS OUR NEEDS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AS FAR AND AS WELL AS SOME, UH, RESPONSE INTO SOME CURRENT DELAYED AREAS THAT ARE ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN. 
          THAT'S THE OKAY. 
          IS IT MORE OF A, THAT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT PLACE TO PUT IT THING OR JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THE LAND, ALL THAT AREA TO THE NORTH IS GONNA GET DEVELOPED TOO. 
          YEAH, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE BUILDING, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE BUILDING THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND WE BOUGHT 12 ACRES OF, OF LAND THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE, AND THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS BEING SOLD, WHICH IS, WHICH WAS PROBABLY JUST FINE. 
          WE CERTAINLY DON'T NEED THE FULL 12 ACRES FOR THE ELEVATED STORAGE SINK. 
          AND, AND IF YOU WAS TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE A FIRE STATION OR EVEN A FIRING RANGE IN THERE, UM, IT'S A REALLY GOOD LOCATION BECAUSE, UH, NO ONE WANTS THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IN THEIR BACKYARD KIND OF THING. 
          AND SO IF WE CAN FACILITATE PUTTING SOMETHING THERE THAT, UM, DON'T MIND THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IN THEIR BACKYARD, LIKE THE FIRE GUYS, THEN WE'RE, THEN WE'RE GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SITTING OUT THERE. 
          AND, AND PART OF THAT TOO, AND, AND MIKE DID REMIND ME AS WELL, AND DAN CAN ELABORATE ON IT, WE'RE TRYING TO KILL MULTIPLE BIRDS WITH ONE STONE ON DIFFERENT RIGHT OF WAY AND LAND ACQUISITION AND OPPORTUNITIES IN PART BECAUSE SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE BISECTING AT DIFFERENT TIMES. 
          SO THAT WILL KIND OF GIVE YOU AN ECONOMY OF SCALE. 
          SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND ALSO PREVENT SOME OF THE NONSENSE WHERE PEOPLE TRY TO COME IN AND, AND NEGOTIATE AROUND US BECAUSE WE'RE GOING IN AND WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AS PART OF A ROAD POTENTIALLY OR RIGHT OF WAY SO, OR ACQUISITION OF RIGHT OF WAY FOR A UTILITY, UH, EXTENSION. 
          SO DID YOU WANT TO YEAH, RONALD HAD COME UP RECENTLY. 
          RONALD REAGAN'S, UH, LAND PURCHASE WAS A FUN EXAMPLE OF THAT. 
          ALTHOUGH FOR ME IT'S ALL ABOUT THE PUMP STATION, UM, WHICH WE SHOWED YESTERDAY, BUT IT'S ALSO GONNA CONTAIN OR POTENTIALLY CONTAIN THE, THE ROAD THAT KEY PEACE INTERSECTION FOR THE, UM, CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY. 
          UM, SO, UM, THAT DID PROVIDE A KIND OF A, A DOUBLE DOSE OF, OF TWO PROJECTS, UM, BUT REALLY BOTH PIECES OF LAND. 
          UM, OUR REMIND COUNCIL, MAYOR COUNCIL IS REALLY TO ESTABLISH THE, THE WATER, ANY SECONDARY, UM, USES OF THE LAND IS FANTASTIC AND, AND WE ARE FINDING SECONDARY USES FOR PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE PURCHASED. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UH, ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL? ANYTHING ELSE? STAFF? OKAY, I THINK, UH, LUNCH IS BEING DELIVERED RIGHT NOW. 
          WE DO HAVE A WORKING LUNCH, SO IT'S 1144. 
          LET'S PLAN TO RECONVENE AT 12 WITH LUNCH. 
          AND IF IT TAKES A LITTLE LONGER, IT TAKES A LITTLE LONGER AND WE ARE IN RECESS AT 1144. 
          ALRIGHT, WE ARE GONNA RECONVENE THE TIME IS 1212. 
          MOVING 
          [4. Economic Development ]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT UPDATE WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND DIRECTOR RANDALL MULLI. 
          ALRIGHT, PERFECT DAY. 
          ALL RIGHT, WELL, GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UH, I, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE JUDGE IS. 
          JUST CARRY ON. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          I ALSO HAVE A, A FULL TEAM AND, UH, VERY PLEASED TO BE JOINED BY, UH, NICOLE VANCE, WHO'S OUR, UH, ASSISTANT, UH, DIRECTOR. 
          UM, NICOLE IS A GREAT, GREAT BACKGROUND IN, UM, BUSINESS RECRUITMENT AND ATTRACTION AS WELL AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, MARKETING. 
          AND SHE HANDLES ALL OF OUR, UH, MARKETING COLLATERAL AS WELL AS OUR WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE. 
          SO VERY HAPPY TO HAVE NICOLE WITH US AS WELL TODAY. 
          UH, JUST TO, TO GO OVER A LITTLE BIT, WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH, UH, WITH COUNCIL TODAY IS WHAT, WHAT WE'RE SEEING, UM, WHAT AM I GETTING CALLS ON, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, WHERE, WHERE WE'RE HEADED AND, UM, KIND OF THE, THE STRATEGIC, UH, PLAN FOR THE, FOR THE DEPARTMENTS. 
          HERE'S, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, INTEREST, UH, LEVEL, UM, WANTED TO SHOW THE, UM, UH, TOP FOUR, UH, INDUSTRIES AND, AND, UH, END USERS THAT, UH, THAT WE SEE AND THAT WE GET, GET CALLS THAT, UM, FOOD AND BEVERAGE, UH, BEING THE, BEING THE FIRST I'LL, I'LL, UH, GO OVER, UM, IN THE UPCOMING SLIDES, SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE AND DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE REALLY RIPE FOR, UH, FOOD AND BEVERAGE. 
          UM, BUT A NUMBER OF PROJECTS, UH, IN TENANTS LOOKING, UH, ANNOUNCED 
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AND THAT, UM, WE'RE GOING TO SEE START TO, TO, TO MOVE IN, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UM, BIG OPPORTUNITY, UH, HERE, UM, MEDICAL OFFICE, UH, SIMILAR TO, UM, UH, AUSTIN, UH, GASTROENTEROLOGY, WE HAVE THAT ON, ON HERO AWAY. 
          I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE, MORE USES, UH, LIKE THAT BASED ON THE, THE CALLS THAT, THAT WE'RE WE'RE RECEIVING, AS WELL AS, UH, GENERAL RETAIL AND STORES LIKE, UH, LIKE HOME DEPOT, UM, JUST TO, TO GET INTO IT, UH, WITH, UH, WITH RETAIL FOOD AND BEVERAGE. 
          UH, A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENTS, UH, HERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT ARE REALLY CATERING TOWARDS, UH, FOOD AND BEVERAGE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES. 
          UH, UM, FIRST WITH THE BAR W COMMERCIAL AT 29 IN, IN REAGAN, I FEEL LIKE EVERY, EVERY MONTH THERE'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT, UM, ON A, ON A RESTAURANT, UH, UH, COMING IN, IN THAT, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, WE'LL SEE HERE IN THE, UH, JERSEY MIKES IS THERE NOW, AND WE'LL SEE IN THE, IN THE FALL HERE AT TORCHY'S, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, CASA GARCIA. 
          AND WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO, TO SEE THOSE, THOSE RESTAURANTS GOING TO, TO BAR W I THINK NOW IN SPEAKING TO THE, THE DEVELOPER ON THAT, THAT TRACK, THEY'RE NOW CLOSE TO, UH, CLOSE OUTTA SPACE. 
          UH, IT'S BEEN A VERY WELL RECEIVED IN THE, UH, IN THE MARKET AND THEY'VE DONE, DONE GREAT WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, SHOPS AT, UH, LEAN WAY AS AS WELL IS ALMOST FINISHED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION. 
          UH, AND THEN, UH, SHOPS AT HERO WAY JUST SAW AN ANNOUNCEMENT HERE THIS WEEK. 
          THEY'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, AT LEASED OUT ON, ON THEIR, UH, SPACE, UM, REAGAN CROSSING, UH, SOUTHERN PORTION OF, OF REAGAN, A HUNDRED THOUSAND, UH, SQUARE FEET. 
          UM, A NUMBER OF RESTAURANT, UH, USERS LOOKING IN THAT, UH, THAT DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND THEY'RE CLOSE AGAIN TO, UH, TO FINALIZING CONSTRUCTION, UH, OUT THERE. 
          SO, UM, I WON'T GO OVER ALL OF THESE, BUT JUST TO, TO SAY, A LOT OF THESE, UH, NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION ARE REALLY CATERING TO, TO FOOD AND BEVERAGE. 
          SO WE WILL SEE, UM, MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, VERY COMPETENT ON THE TENANTS THAT, THAT ARE INTERESTED HERE IN THE, IN THE MARKET. 
          UH, THE OTHER, UM, OPPORTUNITIES THAT, THAT WE HAVE IS, IS WE'RE NOW SEEING, UH, A NUMBER OF, OF SPACES, UH, UH, UNDER CONSTRUCTION, ESPECIALLY ON, ON REAGAN WITH, UH, WITH BAR W AND, UH, AND, AND REAGAN CROSSING. 
          AND THEN, THEN OUR CHALLENGE, UH, IS ON, ON 180 3. 
          UH, A I THINK IS, IS RIPE FOR, FOR OPPORTUNITY WITH, UH, WITH HOME DEPOT ESPECIALLY, UH, MOVING IN. 
          BUT WE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT PRODUCT, UH, JUST YET ON THE, ON THE GROUND. 
          BUT I DO THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY THERE. 
          UH, MOVING ON IN TERMS OF REALLY, UM, OUR ROLE IN, UH, HOW WE, UH, FACILITATE, UH, DEVELOPMENT. 
          A LOT OF OUR CORRESPONDENCE WITH, UH, WITH COUNCIL IS IN, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          IT'S RELATED TO, UH, TO INCENTIVES, BUT THAT'S A VERY MINOR AMOUNT OF THE, THE PROJECTS THAT WE INTERACT WITH ON A, ON A WEEKLY BASIS. 
          A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO HELP FACILITATE, UH, INQUIRIES AND LETTING THEM KNOW, UM, WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN OUR PRODUCT LINE AND THE DEVELOPMENTS, UH, UH, UNDERWAY. 
          SO WE ROUTINELY GET TO GET EMAILS LIKE THIS ASKING FOR, UH, FOR WHAT'S A, A GOOD FIT. 
          UM, AGAIN, INTEREST LEVEL IS, IS HIGH, UH, AND VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO LAND SOME PROJECTS IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE. 
          UH, GOING TO MOVE ON TO, UH, TO THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SIDE OF THINGS. 
          THIS WAS, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS SLIDE IS THE ENTIRE, UM, AUSTIN, UH, M SS A IN THE AUSTIN REGION. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT THE, THE WINTER, UM, REALLY POST COVID. 
          AND, UH, WHAT HAS BEEN, WHAT HAS DONE WELL, IT'S BEEN, UH, INDUSTRIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT. 
          THE AUSTIN MARKET HAS SEEN A, A NUMBER OF, OF INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS, UH, HERE UNDER, UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UH, TO THIS POINT. 
          UM, MOST OF THEM HAVE, MOST OF THE BIG DEVELOPMENTS HAVE GONE, UH, ALONG ONE 30 AND, UH, AND 35 AS, UH, AS THAT MARKET STARTS TO, TO GET SATURATED. 
          I THINK WE ARE STARTING TO SEE OPPORTUNITIES HERE MOVE, UH, WESTWARD. 
          AND WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF FLIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UM, UH, USERS, UH, LOOKING, UH, LOOKING AROUND, UM, HERE, THE, THE REGIONS, UH, DELIVERIES, UH, UH, OF LATE, UH, PROJECTS HAVE JUST OPENED UP. 
          ARE ARE JUST ABOUT TO, UH, TO OPEN UP. 
          AND WHAT I WANTED TO NOTE HERE IS THESE ARE ALL DEVELOPERS DOING THIS, DOING THESE PROJECTS. 
          UM, THE PROJECTS THAT, THAT REALLY GET A LOT OF ATTENTION. 
          UM, ARE YOUR SAMSUNGS AND YOUR TESLAS BIG PROJECTS, UM, THAT, UH, BIG COMPANIES ARE ABLE TO, TO BUY, UH, BUY LAND, BE A DEVELOPER, AND, UH, AND GO THROUGH THAT, THAT 
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PROCESS. 
          BUT THE 90% ARE, ARE HIGHER OF THE LEADS THAT WE RECEIVE OR COMPANIES LOOKING TO, TO LEASE SPACE. 
          SO WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPERS IN THE MARKET LOOKING TO, TO PUT PRODUCT ON THE, ON THE GROUND. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE FACED WITH RIGHT NOW, UM, RISING LAND, LAND COST, UH, HIGH CONSTRUCTION COSTS, AS WELL AS ELEVATED BAR BORROWING COSTS WITH, UH, WITH INTEREST RATES RISING. 
          SO THE MAJORITY OF LEADS WE SEE ARE COMPANIES WILLING TO, TO MOVE INTO, UH, TO EXISTING SPACE. 
          SO FROM OUR STANDPOINT, GETTING SPEC SPACE ON THE GROUND IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          THE, THE SPEC SPACE THAT WE CAN, UM, ANNOUNCE AND GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR THE, UM, FUTURE ORIGIN PORES THAT, THAT WE CAN LAND, UM, HERE DOWN THE, DOWN THE ROAD. 
          UM, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WENT THROUGH A ZONING PROBABLY TWO TO THREE MONTHS AGO, WAS APPROVED BY, UH, BY COUNCIL FOR THE, FOR THE ZONING CHANGE ON, UH, ON HERO WAY. 
          AND THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE, IN THE MARKETPLACE, UM, THAT ARE LOOKING TO, TO LOCATE TO, TO THIS AREA. 
          THIS DEVELOPER'S, UH, UH, FREE HILL HOLD OVER 200,000 SQUARE FEET THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO, TO PUT ON THE GROUND HERE, UH, HERE SHORTLY. 
          UH, AND JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, WHITE INDUSTRIAL AND, AND FLEX, THIS ISN'T A, UM, A, A SMOKE STACK TYPE INDUSTRY, A A LARGE, UM, HEAVY MANUFACTURER. 
          UM, THESE, THESE ARE THE TYPE OF BUILDINGS. 
          I PULLED THIS DIRECTLY FROM OUR, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS A, UH, IN TERMS OF THE, UH, THE IMAGERY, UM, BUT, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, VERY FOCUSED ON, UM, OFFICE AS, AS WELL IN, IN THESE TYPE OF, UH, TYPE OF BUILDINGS. 
          SO AGAIN, MULTIPLE DEVELOPERS LOOKING, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO, TO LAND, UH, SPACE. 
          UM, OUR CHALLENGE IS, UH, THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE RECENTLY ANNOUNCED, AS I MENTIONED AT THE, THE LAST SLIDE. 
          SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, FEEL AN URGENCY TO GET SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ON THE GROUND, UH, SOONER THAN, THAN LATER. 
          I DON'T WANT TO DEVELOPMENTS, UH, CYCLICAL. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE, WHILE THERE IS A BIG, UM, DEMAND THAT WE, WE LAND OUR FAIR SHARE OF, UH, OF PROJECTS, UH, RIGHT NOW, THIS, THIS SLIDE LOOKS AT, WE'VE, UH, CONTINUED TO SEE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, UH, OR CONSTRUCTION. 
          UM, THE AMOUNT OF PROJECTS AND SPACE, UH, INCREASE, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY, BUT, BUT RIGHT. 
          UH, CURRENTLY VACANCY RATES ARE, ARE STAYING LOW, WHICH IS A, A GOOD SIGN, UM, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ABSORB MORE, MORE PROJECT. 
          AND, AND RANDALL, COULD YOU KIND OF DISTINGUISH FOR COUNCIL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TYPE OF CLASS A SPACE THAT WE HAVE, STRONG INTEREST, OR EVEN WHERE FOLKS HAVE CLOSED VERSUS WHAT PREVIOUSLY WOULD'VE BEEN TERMED AS FLEX OFFICE, WHICH IS, IS NOT CLASS A, AND IS ALSO CREATES THOSE OTHER TENANT ISSUES WITH STOUTS AND RESTROOMS AND, AND, AND REALLY DOESN'T ATTRACT THOSE PRIMARY JOBS THAT ARE THE TARGETS IN THE MASTER PLAN. 
          YEAH, AB ABSOLUTELY. 
          UH, IN, IN FLEX SPACE, UH, WHAT WE, WHAT WE HAVE ON THE GROUND NOW IS, IS, UH, SMALLER, UM, UH, SQUARE FEET AND IT'S, UH, MULTIPLE USERS. 
          IT'S HARD TO GET A, UH, ANY SORT OF CORPORATE, UH, RELOCATION. 
          THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH SIZE ON THE, ON THE GROUND. 
          SO I'M TALKING ABOUT, UM, LARGER, UH, SPACES THAT ARE DEMIS BY PROBABLY 15,000 SQUARE FEET OR, UH, OR ABOVE. 
          UH, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT, THAT WE FACE, UH, IN THIS ELEMENT IS, UH, IS LAND COSTS. 
          I MENTIONED WE HAVE ELEVATED, UH, LAND COSTS THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE REGION, BUT PARTICULARLY ON THE, UM, HERE IN THE NORTHWEST, UH, REGION. 
          I'LL GIVE A JUST A REAL LIFE, UH, UH, EXAMPLE FROM EARLIER THIS WEEK, WE HAD HAD A, A SITE VISIT WITH A COMPANY LOOKING FOR, UH, 50 ACRES. 
          UM, WE SHOWED A SITE HERE IN, UH, UH, IN LEANDER. 
          THAT WAS 8 75 A A SQUARE FOOT. 
          THEY MENTIONED TO US AT THE, UM, THE OTHER COMMUNITY, UH, EAST OF US THAT WILL REMAIN, UH, UNNAMED, WAS AT ABOUT FOUR 50 A A A SQUARE FOOT. 
          SO WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH THESE, UM, BIGGER PROJECTS, THIS WAS 50 ACRE USER, THAT'S, UH, OVER NINE, $9 MILLION, UH, DIFFERENCE. 
          SO IT, IT DOES MAKE IT, TO MAKE IT CHALLENGING, UH, ON THOSE, THOSE LAND COSTS. 
          SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH, WE'VE GOTTA TO SELL. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT A GREAT, GREAT SCHOOL SYSTEM, GREAT PARK SYSTEM, AND THAT THIS IS SOMEWHERE THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES WANNA WANNA LIVE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY, WHY THAT'S HOW WE'RE TRYING TO OVERCOME SOME OF THOSE, UH, THOSE CHALLENGES. 
          AND, AND WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY, IF THERE'S A GOOD SOLID FLAT PIECE LIKE THAT, GIVEN THE PRESSURES ON RESIDENTIAL, UM, HISTORICAL, THAT IT MAKES IT THAT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO BROKER A DEAL 
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ON THAT LAND. 
          AND WITHOUT A FOUR B CORP IN PLACE, MAKING UP THAT DELTA, UH, IS AN INSURMOUNTABLE ONE, UH, ISSUE IN SOME CASES, IF THEY'RE BRINGING SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY HIGH VALUE THAT YOU COULD GIVE BACK, THAT'S DIFFERENT. 
          BUT IT JUST, FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT ALONE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE, UM, WELL, IT'S ALMOST LIKE SHOPPING FOR INDUSTRIAL SITES IN URBAN CORE, UH, TYPE PRICES. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IT IS, IT'S A CHASM THAT'S NOT NORMAL. 
          OUR METRICS ON, ON WHAT SHOULD FIT HERE ARE THERE, BUT THE LAND, THE LAND OVERVALUATION IN PART, PROBABLY BECAUSE OF SO MUCH RESIDENTIAL ENTITLEMENT IS NOT HELPING. 
          I'LL, I'LL END, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THERE. 
          AND JUST, JUST SAY, AGAIN, I EXPECT US TO LAND, UH, THERE'S ENOUGH DEVELOPERS LOOKING AROUND, OR, WE'LL, WE'LL LAND SOME, SOME OF THEM AND BE ABLE TO PUT SOME GOOD, GOOD PRODUCT ON THE, ON THE GROUND. 
          UM, MOVING ON TO TO OFFICE, THIS IS THE, THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN THE, UH, IN THE, IN THE REGION. 
          I THINK, UM, RIGHT NOW, SUBLEASE SPACE IS AT A ALL TIME HIVE, UH, ALMOST FIVE AND A HALF MILLION, UH, SQUARE FEET. 
          DO YOU WANNA EXPLAIN THAT, WHAT SUBLEASE MEANS? SURE. 
          E EVERY WEEK WE'RE, OR IT FELT LIKE FOR A WHILE THERE, UM, ON A WEEKLY BASIS, WE WERE SEEING, UH, TECH COMPANIES, UH, LEASE UP THEIR EXISTING, UM, OR OFFER TO THE MARKET TO, TO LEASE UP THEIR EXISTING SPACE. 
          AND WE'VE SEEN ARTICLES LIKE THIS, UM, THAT REALLY CON CONTINUE, UM, HERE IN OUR, UH, IN THE, IN THE REGION. 
          UM, ADDITIONALLY, WE'VE, WE HAVE SEEN, UH, OFFICE PROJECTS IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE AS WELL AS IN THE, THE DOMAIN THAT WERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION STARTED TO, TO BE COMPLETED HERE, WHICH IS ADDING MORE SPACE ON THE, ON THE GROUND, WHICH IS CHALLENGING. 
          UM, WE EXPECT, UH, THAT THAT VACANCY RATE HAS INCREASED, UH, PRETTY SUBSTANTIALLY, AND THAT'S GOING TO, IT'S FORECASTED TO, TO INCREASE, UH, UH, MOVING FORWARD AS, AS WELL. 
          SO ALL THAT WOULD DO IS TAKE AWAY DEMAND IN OUR CITY FOR WHATEVER WE, WHATEVER, WHOEVER WOULD WANT TO BE HERE AND OPEN THEIR BUSINESS AREA, RIGHT? OR WHOEVER WOULD NEED SPACE IN OUR, WELL, LET, LET'S JUST SAY THIS WITH YOUR, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT CLASS A, UH, WHITE COLLAR OFFICE SPACE, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF OUR, LET'S SAY NORTHLINE, LET'S JUST TAKE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          THE TYPE OF DENSITY NEEDS TO BE ABSORBED IN THE MARKET REGIONALLY WHEN THEY'RE SUBLEASING IT, IT'S BUILT, IT'S AVAILABLE. 
          SO YOU'VE ALSO GOT YOUR DELIVERY TO MARKET AS THERE. 
          UM, THERE IS SOME RISK FACTOR TOO, BECAUSE IF SOMEONE DOES COME IN AND BUILD THAT ON SPEC, THEY DON'T HAVE A PRIMARY USER, UH, SIGNED ON ONE THAT WOULD GIVE US PAUSE ON ANY INCENTIVE FOR SURE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY LEASED. 
          AND THEN THERE'S A, AN AMOUNT OF RISK FOR THEM COMING IN AND DOING THAT, GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PROJECTION INTO POTENTIALLY THE LATTER PART OF, UH, THE DECADE. 
          AND I THINK ONE OF THE ARTICLES THAT RANDALL FOUND, OR THAT I FOUND THAT I FORWARDED, I THINK THIS IS, IT'S THE HISTORIC HIGHEST, UH, CLASS A OFFICE OVERLY IN THE AUSTIN REGION. 
          SO THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY AN ALARM, 1986 HOUSTON TIED TO ONE INDUSTRY TOO MUCH, BUT IT'S ENOUGH TO GIVE PAUSE BECAUSE THOSE AREN'T GOOD NUMBERS. 
          IF WE HAVE YET TO BUILD THOSE SPACES, I'LL, UH, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO, UM, DISCUSS A MULTI-FAMILY, MULTI-FAMILY, NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, WE, WE WORK ON, OR THAT WE, UM, CERTAINLY NOT ANYTHING WE WE INCENTIVIZED BUT WANTED TO SHARE. 
          UM, ON THE MULTIFAMILY, UH, PIECE, THIS IS FROM, UH, OUR, OUR DATA SOURCE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE USING, UM, BEING COSTAR'S LARGEST DATA SOURCE, UH, IN THE, IN THE INDUSTRY. 
          THEY, IN, IN THE WORLD. 
          UH, IT'S NOT YOU OR, UM, JUST LEANDER. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR, OUR REGION HERE, UM, INCLUDING GEORGETOWN AS AS WELL, HOW WE'RE LOOPED IN VIA, VIA COSTAR. 
          UM, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS A, A NUMBER OF PROJECTS, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S SURPRISED, UH, HERE, UM, AT THE AMOUNT OF, UH, OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT HAVE, UM, UH, POPPED UP IN OUR, OUR AREA. 
          UH, WE DO HAVE A, A RISING, UH, VACANCY, UH, RATE THAT'S INCREASED, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY. 
          I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE HERE, UH, SHOWS THAT, UH, THAT VACANCY RATE, UM, WE DO EXPECT THAT TO, UH, THE, THE MARKET EXPECTS THAT TO SUBSIDE, UH, A LITTLE BIT. 
          BUT WHEN WE DO LOOK AT THE, UM, LEANDER NUMBERS, UH, WE HAVE SEEN, UM, WE DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, UH, UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 
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SO HERE'S WHAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UH, IN LEANDER, UM, OVER 2300, UH, UNITS. 
          UH, AND WHEN, WHEN WE ADD IN, UH, TOWN HOMES, CONDOS, UH, FOURPLEXES, WE'RE AT ALMOST 3,400, UM, TOTAL MULTI-FAMILY UNITS. 
          AND THE NEXUS BETWEEN REGIONAL JOBS, PRIMARY JOBS, AND THE OVERSUPPLY AND VACANCIES IS DIRECT. 
          SO IN ORDER TO FIRST ABSORB THIS, WE NEED THE OFFICE COMPONENT, EVEN IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN AND DOMAIN TO IMPROVE TO THEN THE NEXT PHASE BEING, UH, PRIMARY OFFICE HERE. 
          BUT THAT OVERSUPPLY IS, UM, I THINK IF YOU TAKE US IN GEORGETOWN CUMULATIVELY AS A MARKET, WE'RE DOUBLE THE VACANCY RATE OF AUSTIN AND MAYBE EVEN CEDAR PARK PROPER. 
          AND SO THAT IS A, IT, ONCE ALL THAT GO BACK TO THAT CURVE. 
          AND I THINK WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, SEEING THIS, YOU KNOW, THE NOT GOOD SCENARIOS, YOU END UP WITH A 30 TO 40% VACANCY, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT COULD HAPPEN AT THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR HEADING INTO THE, UH, UPCOMING. 
          AND, AND I DO THINK THAT WE'VE HAD SOME OTHER INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS. 
          IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, UH, IN A VERY STRUCTURED WAY, SO SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES CAN, UM, THRIVE AND NOT HAVE THOSE VACANCY RATES. 
          AT SOME POINT, WE MAY BRING THAT TO Y'ALL. 
          I'VE ASKED SOMEBODY TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          UH, THAT'S, THAT COMES FROM THAT MARKET, UM, IN TERMS OF THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS. 
          BUT IT WOULD IN A VERY STRUCTURED WAY. 
          THE ONE OF THE ISSUES IS TOO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME OF PROBABLY 75,000. 
          IT WOULDN'T BE, IT, IT WOULDN'T BE AT 30,000. 
          IT WOULD BE PROBABLY FOUR YEAR POLICE, FIRE TEACHERS, NURSES, FOLKS LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD FALL INTO THAT INCOME TARGET. 
          AND I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE BENEFICIAL, EVEN IF IT MEANT, LET'S SAY, TAX CREDITS FOR A PORTION OF A BUILDING TO BE FILLED, FILL THOSE VACANCIES RATHER THAN HAVE THAT ENTIRE BUILDING, LET'S SAY BY THE TIME YOU GET TO FIRST QUARTER OF 25, HAVE THE BANK START LOOKING AT, AT CALLING THAT NOTE ON A BRAND NEW BUILDING. 
          ARE YOU THINKING OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING AN ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF B M R UNITS? NOT NECESSARILY. 
          I, I THINK THAT IF THE VACANCY CURVE, I THINK YOU'D LOOK AT SOMETHING VOLUNTARY AND, AND IT MIGHT BE THAT MAYBE OUT OF SEVEN 50 UNITS, MAYBE A HUNDRED ARE TARGETED IN THE 75 TO 80,000 MEDIAN RANGE FOR INCOMES, BECAUSE I KNOW L A S D AND ONCE YOU GET ST. 
          DAVID'S HERE AND ALL THE OTHERS ARE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE THAT WORKFORCE HERE. 
          AND SO, AGAIN, A STRUCTURED APPROACH RATHER THAN HIGH VACANCIES AND THEN LETTING THE MARKET JUST CORRECT ITSELF, MAYBE NOT IN A, IN A GREAT WAY IF IT WERE TO BE A PROLONGED DOWNTURN. 
          I'LL GO THROUGH THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES PRETTY, PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          UM, THIS IS JUST WHAT'S, WHAT'S UNDER REVIEW? UM, PRETTY, UH, SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT, UH, STILL, STILL UNDER REVIEW THAT HASN'T STARTED CONSTRUCTION, UM, JUST, JUST YET. 
          UH, AS, AS WELL AS, UH, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE PLANNED, UH, WITH, WITH MULTIFAMILY. 
          AND HERE'S THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF WHAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION REVIEW AND, AND PLANNED. 
          AND RANDALL, WHILE YOU'RE THERE, UM, I DON'T REMEMBER, I'M SORRY, I DON'T REMEMBER IF YOU WERE IN OUR LAST EXECUTIVE STAFF MEETING WHEN THIS CAME UP. 
          UM, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF MAYBE INCENTIVIZING SOME REZONINGS FOR MULTI-FAMILY THAT HASN'T, UH, HASN'T HIT YET BECAUSE THE MULTI-FAMILY MARKET FOR CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW IS REALLY TOUGH. 
          UM, AND A LOT OF THOSE APARTMENTS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE, THEY ARE ALSO GREAT PLACES WHERE WE COULD PUT COMMERCIAL. 
          AND SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT MAYBE, UM, WHAT WE COULD DO LEGALLY, MAYBE WE CAN DO FREE REZONINGS WAS MS. GRIFFIN'S IDEA. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE TO COUNSEL AND TO OUR LEGAL STAFF TO KIND OF THINK MORE ON ABOUT LIKE HOW WE CAN GET THERE IF IT'S FEASIBLE. 
          YEAH. 
          SORRY. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          BRING THAT NUMBER DOWN. 
          AND IN TERMS OF, UH, PRIORITIES FOR THE, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE DEPARTMENT, UH, AGAIN, UM, SPEC SPACE FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND CLASS A, UH, FLEX, UH, OFFICE SPACE AND, AND R D SPACE, UH, FOOD AND BEVERAGE, UH, AGAIN, OPPORTUNITIES, 
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UH, ALONG BOTH, UH, UH, REAGAN AND, UH, AND 180 3 A, UM, JUST, UH, THE HOTEL FEASIBILITY STUDY, UH, JUST, UH, JUST PASSED LAST WEEK AND WE'LL START TO, TO HAVE A KICKOFF THERE ON, ON THAT PROJECT, UH, HERE SHORTLY. 
          UH, THAT'S A BIG OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR US WITH THE HOUSE BILL 41 0 3 BEING APPROVED IN, UH, IN, UH, 21 IN, UH, BEING ABLE TO, UH, CAPTURE THE STATE'S PORTION OF, OF THE SALES TAX AS WELL AS THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX PORTION OF THAT. 
          UH, ONE THING, RANDALL, NOT TO JUST GO BACK TO THE MULTIFAMILY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE RENT, UM, ONE THING THAT'S MASKED IN THAT 12 MONTH ROLLING, UH, WE BELIEVE IS ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THE, EVEN THE NEWER APARTMENTS ARE ABOUT AT TWO MONTHS FREE RENT IF YOU START DOING SOME DIGGING. 
          SO THE ACTUAL 12 MONTH ASKING IF YOU WERE TO FACTOR THAT IN IS PROBABLY DOUBLE THAT, UH, OF, OF A DECLINE IN, IN ACTUAL, UH, IN ACTUAL RENTS. 
          SO, ALONG WITH THAT, JUST KEEP IN MIND THE PROFORMA, WHEN MOST OF THOSE BANK NOTES OCCURRED WITH THE COMMERCIAL PAPER, THAT IT WAS ON A PERPETUAL GROWTH CURVE THAT INCLUDED INCREASING RENTS AND HIGH VACANCIES. 
          AND SO THAT'S, AGAIN, I'M ALWAYS GONNA LOOK 12 TO 18 TO 24 MONTHS OUT TO TRY TO GIVE Y'ALL OPTIONS. 
          AND THE STAFF IS, WE'RE ALL ATTUNED TO THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU MITIGATE THAT? AND I'M NOT SURE. 
          NOW, THE, THE OTHER THING I'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN FROM A COUPLE COMMERCIAL BROKERS AND DEVELOPERS RECENTLY THAT WE'VE MET WITH IS THAT IN THEIR OPINION, THERE'S GOING TO BE A BIG MARKET PULLBACK IN TERMS OF LENDING. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF, UM, LET'S SAY INVESTMENT, UH, PURCHASES MADE BY LARGE INVESTMENT GROUPS NATIONWIDE FOR, LET'S SAY PENSION FUNDS, IF YOU LOOK AT, AT OUR SUBMARKET WITH, WITH, UH, GEORGETOWN, THERE HASN'T BEEN A PURCHASE OF A CLASS, A MULTI-FAMILY UNIT AS PART OF A INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO SINCE I THINK THE SEPTEMBER OF 22. 
          AND SO NOW SOME OF THESE, UH, PROPERTIES ARE NOT GOING TO BE SEEN AS NECESSARILY SOMETHING TO, FOR THOSE LARGE GROUPS TO COME IN AND PURCHASE BECAUSE OF THAT OVERSUPPLY AND THE RENT ISSUE. 
          SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT SOUNDING AN ALARM, BUT WE ARE RAISING AWARENESS AND WE DO WANNA PROVIDE Y'ALL SOME OPTIONS. 
          I'M NOT ONE, I FULLY BELIEVE IN LETTING THE MARKET CORRECT, BUT I DO DO BELIEVE WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THE MARKET DIDN'T CORRECT FAST ENOUGH, AND THEY KEPT ISSUING THAT PAPER AND PEOPLE MOVED ON IT THINKING IT WAS GONNA BE A SHORT TERM, UH, ISSUE ON INTEREST RATES AND, AND JOBS. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE MORE OF A MULTI-YEAR APPROACH TO THAT. 
          RANDALL, AND KIND OF WITH THAT TOO, ARE YOU SEEING WITH, UM, WITH DEVELOPERS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD, I KNOW IT WAS, IT WAS MAYBE THE MULTI-FAMILY WAS AN EASIER PORTION TO FINANCE AS PART OF THEIR OVERALL PROJECT, SO YOU SAW THAT IT BEING SUCH A IMPORTANT PART OF IT. 
          ARE WE SEEING NOW THAT IT COULD BE POSSIBLE FOR OTHER PARTS OF THAT DEVELOPMENT TO BE EASIER TO FINANCE? THAT'S GOOD. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING THAT, I, I THINK WHEN WE'VE SEEN, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE RETAIL FOCUSED ON THE MAJOR CORRIDORS, WE'VE SEEN, UH, RETAIL PROPOSED IN THE FRONT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO IN THE BACK PORTION. 
          AND THE EASY ANSWER WAS, WAS MULTIFAMILY. 
          AND NOW, NOW WE'RE SEEING SOME OTHER, OTHER USES. 
          IN FACT, I THINK ONE CASE THAT'S COMING BEFORE YOU HERE IN A, IN A UPCOMING MEETING IS PROPOSING MORE OF THAT, UH, FLEX SPACE IN THE, IN THE BACK. 
          SO I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. 
          IT'S KIND OF ON THE SAME, ON THE SAME LINE THERE. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING BUILT NOW THAT WERE APPROVED YEARS AGO, SEEING THE NUMBER THAT WE HAVE UNDER REVIEW NOW. 
          UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ONCE THE ENTITLEMENT'S THERE, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S UNDER REVIEW, I MEAN, WE CAN'T MAKE 'EM BUILD IT. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BUILT. 
          UH, IS THERE A TIME LIMIT? WE DON'T PUT TIME LIMITS ON THAT, DO WE? SO THE, THE ONES THAT ARE LISTED AS PLANNED, THEY HAVE THE ZONING MM-HMM. 
           IN PLACE, SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME IN AND CHANGE THE ZONING. 
          IT DOESN'T EXPIRE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THE, AS FAR AS IT BEING UNDER REVIEW, UH, AND THEN THEY DECIDE NOT TO BUILD IT, THAT NOTHING REVERSES, IT JUST STAYS THERE UNLESS THEY BRING IT BACK TO US FOR A REZONING OR YEAH. 
          THE, THE ZONING REMAINS OR SOMETHING REMAINS. 
          IF, IF THEY START A PROJECT, THE APPLICATION CAN EXPIRE, BUT THE ZONING STILL STAYS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          BUT WHERE THE MAYOR HAD MENTIONED, IF WE HAVE SOME INCENTIVES 
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BUILT IN, YES. 
          IF YOU SAW WITH THE ORANGE BILL THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE APARTMENTS MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND IF WE DID FREE REZONINGS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS SAY TONIGHT ONLY AT CITY OF LAND. 
          I WOULDN'T ONE FREE REZONINGS. 
          I WOULDN'T  AND HEY, ROBERT'S LIFE FLASHING BEFORE HER EYES. 
          I KNOW. 
          LIKE, THEY ALL HAPPEN AT ONCE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT YEAH, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO INCENTIVIZE THAT, I'M ON BOARD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I THINK IT'S JUST NICE TO KNOW THAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          WELL, I, I, I KNOW. 
          I, BUT WE'RE, WE'VE GOT OPTIONS AND A PLAN AND INCENTIVES THAT YES. 
          THANK YOU, . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY, UM, AWARE OF THE LEAKAGE REPORTS. 
          WE SEE THESE, UM, ON A FREQUENT BASIS. 
          WE HAVE A SOFTWARE THAT THAT PROVIDES THIS, UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, UH, UNMET, UH, POTENTIAL IN A LOT OF THESE, UH, THESE CATEGORIES. 
          UH, WE ALSO CAN SEE SPECIFICALLY WHERE OUR, UM, UH, RESIDENTS ARE GOING AND, AND SPENDING MONEY. 
          AND PARTICULARLY ON THE, ON THE RESTAURANT SIDE, A LOT OF THE PLACES, UM, LIKE THE TORCHY AND, UM, ARE NOW STARTING TO, TO LOOK AT, UH, AT, AT LEANDER. 
          UM, SO I THINK WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A BIG DENT HERE IN THE, IN THE FUTURE ON, ON THAT. 
          YEAH,  AGREED THAT THAT'D BE NICE. 
          UH, JUST, JUST SOME OBJECTIVES, UM, WAS, UH, HOPING THAT, UH, MR. GRIMS MO DIDN'T, DIDN'T COME BACK IN BECAUSE WAS GOING TO TRY TO CALL DIBS ON THE, UH, B C T, UH, PROGRAM AND CONTINUING TO, TO UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS FOR, UH, FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, PURPOSES. 
          UM, AS WE DID WITH THE, THE LAST, UH, COMMERCIAL PROJECT, WE, WE PRETTY MUCH TOOK CARE OF THAT BEFORE YOU GOT HERE. 
          AND THEN THAT'S WHAT WE HAD AT THE TIME. 
          WE'RE GONNA KEEP WORKING WITH CAB METRO ON THE FUTURE, ARIZONA. 
          UH, AND, AND AGAIN, THE, THE COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT, THAT WE HAVE IS A, IS A PRIORITY THAT WE CONTINUE TO WANNA, WANNA EXPLOIT AS, AS WELL. 
          UH, DEPARTMENT GOALS, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, ATTRACTION, WE WANNA HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST, UH, RECRUITMENT, UH, EFFORT, UH, RETENTION, UH, IS, IS IMPORTANT FOR US. 
          IF WE CAN'T RETAIN THE COMPANIES THAT ARE, THAT ARE HERE, IT MAKES IT HARD TO, TO RECRUIT, UH, NEW ONES. 
          UH, SO THAT'S A IMPORTANT, UH, UM, GOAL OF OURS, UH, AS WELL AS MARKETING AND, AND, UH, AND PROMOTION. 
          UM, WE DO WANT TO ADD SOME MORE, UM, MEASUREMENTS AND WHAT WE, WHAT WE MONITOR. 
          UM, HERE'S SOME OF OUR, UH, KEY PERFORMANCE, UH, INDICATORS, UH, LEADS, UH, LEADS RECEIVED. 
          UM, WE, WE CERTAINLY MONITOR THOSE. 
          WE, WE GO FURTHER IN DEPTH ON, ON THAT AND LOOK AT WHERE WE GET, GET LEADS FROM. 
          MOST OF OUR LEADS COME FROM THE, THE STATE, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, OFFICE. 
          BUT THOSE ARE LEADS THAT EVERYONE IN THE STATE, UM, RECEIVES. 
          SO AS A, AS A DEPARTMENT, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING, THAT WE'RE GETTING STAFF LEADS, THAT WE'RE PROACTIVE AND, AND HAVING STAFF LEADS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SHARE WITH OUR, OUR, UM, UH, OTHER GROUPS. 
          AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT, AT LEANDER. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE MONITOR, UM, CLOSELY. 
          IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO, UM, VISIT AND UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF OUR EXISTING BUSINESSES. 
          WE DO MEASURE OUR BUSINESS RETENTION VISITS AS WELL AS THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE, WE UNDERTAKE HERE. 
          UH, SOME OF THE TARGET SECTORS THAT, THAT WE, UH, HAVE, HAVE LAID OUT, UM, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, UH, DESTINATION, UH, RETAIL, AND BY DESTINATION RETAIL, I MEAN, UM, PROJECTS THAT PEOPLE ARE DRIVING IN FROM OUTSIDE THE, THE COMMUNITY TO TO SHOP IN, IN LEANDER. 
          THOSE PROJECTS ARE A, ARE PRIORITY OF, OF OURS. 
          UH, AGAIN, NEED MORE, MORE PRODUCT ON THE, ON THE GROUND. 
          BUT AS WE, AS WE GET THOSE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS, WE DO WANT TO ACTIVELY TARGET, UH, THESE SPECIFIC, UM, TARGET SECTORS WE THINK MAKES SENSE FOR OUR COMMUNITY PROFILE. 
          UH, JUST SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES, UM, UNDERTAKEN. 
          I THINK ON MY WEEKLY, UH, REPORT, YOU CAN CAN SEE, UH, A LOT OF ACTIVITY WITH VISITING WITH, UH, UH, CURRENT, UH, DEVELOPERS AS WELL AS OUR BROKERAGE, UH, COMMUNITY. 
          WE'VE HAD, UH, QUARTERLY ROUND TABLES WITH THE LEANER CHAMBER WHERE WE HEAR THE CONCERNS OF THE, UH, VARIOUS, UH, INDUSTRIES THAT ARE HERE IN HERE IN LEANER, SO WE CAN KNOW WHAT, WHAT PAIN POINTS THAT, THAT THEY HAVE. 
          AND, UM, AND HELP, HELP ADDRESS THOSE. 
          UM, WE'VE MADE, UH, WEBSITE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UH, NICOLE'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF INCREASING OUR SOCIAL PRESENCE, UH, ADDING A LINKEDIN PAGE AS AS WELL, TO COMMUNICATE, UH, 
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ACTIVITY THAT'S, THAT'S OCCURRING. 
          UM, ONE THING I DIDN'T MENTION, BUT ON SOME OF THE, THOSE ANNOUNCEMENTS ON THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE SIDE, WE HAVE HAD PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE, WITH THE CHAMBER ON REALLY UTILIZING THEIR, THEY HAVE A GREAT, GREAT REACH AND WE WANNA PARTNER TOGETHER WITH, WITH THEM TO, UM, COLLABORATIVELY, UH, ANNOUNCE, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE MOVING INTO TO LEANDER. 
          WE, WE DO HEAR, UM, NOT ENOUGH GOING ON, NOT ENOUGH ACTIVITY. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WHEN WE HAVE THOSE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT WE, WE REALLY HELP TELL THE, TELL THE STORY OF WHAT'S COMING IN. 
          UH, WITH, WITH THAT, UH, HAPPY TO, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE. 
          I HAVE ONE. 
          SO, UM, I GUESS TO, WELL, ONE OF THE POINTS THAT YOU JUST MADE ABOUT MEETING REGULARLY OR WITH THE CHAMBER AND PAIN POINTS AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          SO HOW ARE, I MEAN, BESIDES TAKING NOTES, BUT ARE THERE THINGS THAT ARE EASY WINS THERE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, OR INEXPENSIVE  THAT WE CAN DO TO ELIMINATE THOSE? I MEAN, HOW LONG IS THAT LIST? WHAT ALL'S ON THAT LIST? SURE. 
          I THINK WE, WE JUST HAD ONE THANK YOU. 
          'CAUSE WE JUST HAD ONE ON WEDNESDAY, SO IT'S VERY FRESH AND, AND MY MIND, UH, UM, SOME OF THE CONCERNS WAS, UH, WE HEARD, UH, SIGN, UH, THIS WAS, UH, FOOD AND BEVERAGE, UH, INDUSTRY. 
          UM, SO I KNOW WE'VE GOT SIGN, UH, ORDINANCE COMING, COMING BACK HERE, HERE SHORTLY. 
          SO THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE, THOSE WINS. 
          COUNSEL, ANYTHING ELSE? JUST A QUICK ITEM. 
          AND THIS IS MORE FOR NOT RANDALL, I THINK IT'S MORE FOR MR. BEVERLY. 
          AND SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSE PRICES ARE DROPPING AND YOU'RE SAYING APARTMENTS ARE VACANT, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THEY NEED TO LOWER THEIR PRICES JUST LIKE HOUSING HAS WELL DROPPED. 
          SO HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENED. 
          THEY ARE LOWERING THOSE, THOSE LEASE RATES, UH, IN COSTAR THAT'S REFLECTING. 
          THEY ARE ASKING LESS, AND THEY'RE OFFERING, MANY ARE OFFERING TWO MONTHS FREE. 
          AND SO HERE'S WHERE YOUR POTENTIAL, WHICH IS NEW TO THIS MARKET, I'D SAY IN THE LAST DECADE, I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO GO BACK AT LEAST TO 2011, UM, 2008, 2011, IS IF YOU START, IF YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU'VE GOT 90 DAYS AND YOU HAVE THOSE NEW APARTMENTS HITTING THE MARKET AT THE SAME TIME, YOUR EXISTING STOCK OF APARTMENTS IS GOING TO HAVE THAT MUCH MORE PRESSURE. 
          AND SO THEY'LL BE DROPPING THEIRS SIMULTANEOUSLY, THAT THEN AFFECTS THE NEW ONES. 
          AND IT BECOMES KIND OF A, A PSYCH A, A SPIRAL. 
          THAT'S WHY IF THERE IS AN OPTION FOR SOME MODERATE INCOME WORKFORCE HOUSING PIECES ALONG THE WAY, IF, AND AGAIN, I CAN BRING SOMEBODY FOR A POTENTIAL PRESENTATION ON HOW SOMETHING MIGHT THAT MIGHT LOOK, I DID HAVE SOMEONE FROM HOUSTON, UH, WHO ACTUALLY USED TO BE THE CHAIR OF THE HOUSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY COME AND TAKE A DRIVE WITH ME. 
          HE CAME UP AND WE, AND BROUGHT A COUPLE OF HIS ASSOCIATES. 
          AND IT WAS AN IMMEDIATE RED FLAG THAT WE MAY HAVE A, UM, AN OVERSUPPLY ISSUE, INCLUDING THE FACT HE HAD HIS RICE M B A GRADS PULLING DATA ON HOW MANY OF THEM, UM, ARE IN THAT POSITION. 
          AND I THINK WHERE THE DANGER IS, YOU CAN ONLY LOWER IT SO MUCH BEFORE THEIR NUMBERS. 
          THEY CAN'T MAKE THEIR BANK NOTE. 
          YOU COULD KEEP LOWERING IT AND IT KIND OF WORKS AGAINST YOU. 
          AND IF EVERYBODY'S DOING IT AND THEN THEY CAN'T MAKE THEIR NOTE, UH, ON THE MASTER, ON THE MASTER NOTE TO THE BANK FOR THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, THEN THAT BECOMES A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE. 
          FIRST, THOUGH, THEY'RE GOING TO KICK THE CAN ON PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, DON'T WANT THAT. 
          AND ON YOUR OLDER APARTMENTS, THAT'LL REALLY BE AN ISSUE ON YOUR NEWER ONES, IT MAY JUST BLOW UP THEIR WHOLE PRO FORMA WHERE THEY THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, HEY, IF THIS IS NOT A GREAT ASSET, IT COULD BE A LARGE COMPANY. 
          AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA MAKE, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THE PAYMENT ON THAT THING. 
          AND YOU SAW SOME OF THE, PROBABLY ARTICLES IN, UM, FROM THE WEST COAST WHERE SOMETIMES APARTMENTS, SOMETIMES HOTELS, LARGE GROUPS ARE SOMETIMES NOT MAKING THEIR NOTE AND LETTING THE BANK TAKE IT. 
          SO THEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL ON WHAT THE OUTCOME'S GOING TO BE ON THAT. 
          AND THEN, SO IT WOULD BE TRYING TO LOOK AT A STRATEGY BASED ON WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE MARKET TO KEEP THOSE, UH, TO KEEP THAT A STRONG MARKET AND THRIVING, UH, TO PROVIDE THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT. 
          I KNOW AT DIFFERENT TIMES WE'VE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          UM, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO KEEP A PULSE ON IT. 
          'CAUSE I THINK IT IS A VOLATILE MARKET, AND I THINK THAT VACANCY RATE WILL GO DOWN IF IT, AS YOU SAID YOURSELF, RIGHT? PEOPLE 
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CANNOT GET HOUSE NOTES, SO WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO? THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO GET INTO AN APARTMENT. 
          UM, SO I THINK IT'S REALLY VOLATILE, BUT I DON'T KNOW A GOOD WAY FOR US TO LOOK AT THE PULSE OF THAT. 
          I THINK IT'LL, IT'LL BE PARTIALLY DEPENDENT ON THE JOBS PIECE BECAUSE, OR VERY DEPENDENT ON IT. 
          SO THE REGIONAL JOBS PIECE, ESPECIALLY ON THE NEW PRODUCTS, THEY'RE GONNA NEED A FAIRLY HEALTHY, UH, LOW VACANCY RATE AND, UH, MONTHLY RENTAL RATE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR NOTES. 
          SO ESPECIALLY IF THEY WERE, AGAIN, THEIR PRO FORMAS ON THE NEWEST ONES BECAUSE THEY DID PAY HIGHER INTEREST BECAUSE THEY DID PAY A HIGHER CONSTRUCTION COST. 
          IN ALMOST ALL CASES, THEIR, THEIR PREMISE IS TYPICALLY ALWAYS GROWTH, AND THEY DID NOT EXPECT THIS BLIP. 
          SO WE MAY EVEN, IT MIGHT EVEN BE BENEFICIAL FOR US TO BRING IN SOME OF THOSE, UH, NOT NECESSARILY THE DEVELOPER PER SE, BUT THE ACTUAL, UM, OWNERSHIP, UH, THAT WILL TAKE THE KEYS SOON AS THE, THE PRODUCT IS BUILT AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE SEEING ON PRE-LEASING, LET'S SAY PRE-LEASING RIGHT BEFORE THEY OPEN. 
          AND IF THEY'RE PROJECTING IN ANY CASES, OH, WE'RE GONNA BE AT 40% FOR NINE MONTHS, THEN WE NEED TO KNOW THAT, I MEAN, Y'ALL NEED, WE NEED TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO Y'ALL QUICKLY. 
          AND SO WHAT I, WHAT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT IS IF YOU HAVE A DOMINO EFFECT, WHETHER IT'S PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, THEY CAN'T MAKE THEIR BANK NOTE EXTENDED VACANCIES, AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? GO AHEAD. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE MASON HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET, UM, DAVIS, SORRY. 
          DAVIS. 
          DAVIS, UM, HOW CRITICAL DO YOU THINK THAT THAT IS TO BEING ABLE TO, SOMEBODY WANTING TO DEVELOP THAT BLOCK OR PART OF THAT BLOCK? I, I THINK THE, ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL PIECES WAS, IS GETTING THE, THE GAS LINE, UH, EXTENDED FOR, FOR RESTAURANTS. 
          AND THAT'S, UH, THAT PROJECT IS, IS UNDERWAY. 
          SO EXCITED FOR, FOR THAT PROJECT. 
          UM, I'M, I'M NOT SURE ON THE, THE PARTICULAR HOUSE. 
          ALRIGHT, COUNSEL, ANYTHING ELSE? ONE LAST THING FOR, FOR RANDALL. 
          UM, WHEN, WHAT'S THE MARKET LOOK LIKE? UM, I KNOW THAT ONE OF OUR, UM, UH, ISSUES OR, UM, CHALLENGES IS GONNA BE FINDING, UH, INDUSTRIAL SPEC BUILDERS. 
          LIKE, IS, IS THERE A MARKET FOR PEOPLE LOOKING TO ACTUALLY BUILD RIGHT NOW? THAT THAT'S, THERE'S A HUNDRED PERCENT OF MARKET. 
          SO HOWEVER WE CAN HELP AS A COUNCIL, WHEN THAT COMES AROUND, LIKE WE KNOW, WE, WE SEE THAT AS A, AS A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY TOO. 
          I THINK THIS IS, UM, A NUMBERS GAME REALLY. 
          WE'VE LIKE TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME PROJECTS DON'T END UP COMING. 
          UH, WE LIKE TO HAVE A, A NUMBER OF, OF GROUPS LOOKING, WHICH, WHICH THERE ARE SOME OF THEM WE'LL COME TO, TO FRUITION. 
          WE'VE GOT TOO MANY PEOPLE LOOKING TO TO, TO NOT HAVE THAT. 
          SO WE'LL, WE'LL START TO GET PRODUCT ON THE, ON THE GROUND AND, AND ON, ON THE POSITIVE WHEN THE BANKS STOP LENDING, WHEN THEY KNOW IT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A FOUR TO FIVE YEAR TERM BEFORE YOU COULD REASONABLY REENTER THAT MARKET. 
          THAT'S WHEN SOME OF THAT DIRT IS GOING TO LOOK FOR OTHER END USES RATHER QUICKLY. 
          AND THE INDUSTRIAL PIECE WOULD BE PART OF IT AS WELL. 
          ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL? ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          MOVING 
          [5. Future Land Use Map ]
ON TO ITEM FIVE, FUTURE LAND USE MAP WITH EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, GRIFFIN. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UM, SO THIS ITEM IS ABOUT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP. 
          UM, IN YOUR PACKET, I PROVIDED A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JUST FOR REFERENCE. 
          SO I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER EVERY SINGLE LAND USE CATEGORY. 
          UM, BUT I WANTED TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT, UM, EVERY MONDAY WE HAVE MEETINGS WITH DEVELOPERS. 
          UM, WE HAVE FIVE 30 MINUTE TIME SLOTS WHERE WE TALK TO 'EM ABOUT THEIR FUTURE PROJECT. 
          WE'LL LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, TALK ABOUT UTILITIES AND LAND USE. 
          AND, UM, WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING, UM, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT LAND USES ARE APPROPRIATE IN CERTAIN AREAS. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER CATEGORY, UM, WE SEE THAT AS A CAMPUS STYLE DEVELOPER WHERE WE WANNA SEE, UM, THE INDUSTRIAL USER AND KIND OF A, A BIGGER DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, SO WE'VE STARTED GETTING REQUESTS FOR, UM, TOWNHOUSES, MULTIFAMILY, UM, GAS STATIONS AND UH, MINI STORAGE. 
          AND SO WHAT STAFF DOES IS WE READ THE, THE PLAN AND WE SAY, NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S SUPPORTED THERE. 
          SO WE JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE TO KIND OF TALK TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE HEARING AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL STILL ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          UM, THAT'S BEEN A REALLY BIG ONE. 
          BUT OUR CONCERN IS IF YOU, UM, USE UP THE, THE BIG EMPLOYMENT 
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CENTER AREAS WITH THESE SMALLER USES, WE WON'T GET THAT IN DEVELOPER WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          SO I CAN PULL UP THAT, UM, CATEGORY ON THE SCREEN. 
          BUT IT, UM, THE WAY IT, IT'S STRUCTURED, THIS IS ALSO ONE THAT COUNCIL'S ASKED US TO KIND OF REVISIT WITH, UM, HOW WE WORK ON THE PERCENTAGES OF LAND USES. 
          SO THAT'S GONNA BE COMING, COMING SOON. 
          THAT'S IN MY NEXT ITEM ABOUT ORDINANCE UPDATES. 
          UM, BUT WHAT, WHAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE IS THAT WE ARE GIVING THE RIGHT KIND OF FEEDBACK. 
          SO WE WERE JUST LOOKING TO SEE WHAT Y'ALL IMAGINED IN THAT AREA. 
          EXACTLY. 
          I MEAN, TO LIMIT TOWN HOMES, THE MINI STORAGE AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. 
          I MEAN, FOR ME, AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER IS WHERE THE ACTUAL JOBS ARE, SO PEOPLE ARE DRIVING IN FROM THE OTHER PLACES INTO THAT, WHICH I THINK WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENT. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE PRIMARY USE BE EMPLOYMENT . 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE CAN STICK WITH THAT. 
          IT JUST, IT'S BECOME MORE POPULAR. 
          SO WE'RE LIKE, MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST CHECK IN AND MAKE SURE WE'RE STILL ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          SHOULD WE SOMEHOW, PARDON? IS THERE A WAY TO, NOT TO MAKE ANY AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO, UM, I GUESS PUT IN WRITING A REDEFINE IT? AND MAYBE THAT IS THE PERCENTAGES, BUT SOMETHING TO SAY LIKE, IT IS, IT IS, IT IS THIS, IT IS NOT THIS AND BE MORE CLEAR. 
          I FEEL LIKE IT SAYS THAT. 
          UM, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY COULD INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE A GAS STATION IS A JOB. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S JUST NOT THE KIND OF JOB WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          SO WE COULD PROBABLY, UM, WORK WITH EMPLOYEES OR YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY RANDALL'S TEAM TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT IS A GOOD NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT YOU WOULD SEE TYPE OF AREA. 
          UM, BUT IT'S AN UPDATE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE COMING FORWARD WITH AND JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. 
          I THINK WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT CAMPUS LAST TIME, RIGHT? YES. 
          THERE WAS SOMEBODY SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT CAMPUS AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF THAT. 
          SO MAYBE PUTTING THAT IN THERE TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT THIS MEANS. 
          YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          YEAH. 
          IS THERE A TRADITIONAL NUMBER THAT IS CONSIDERED A SMALL CAMPUS OR MEDIUM CAMPUS? LIKE IS THERE AN IDEA OF A RANGE OR, IT REALLY IS UP TO US TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT APPROPRIATE NUMBER IS. 
          I'M GONNA LOOK AT RANDALL. 
          YES, HE DOESN'T HAVE A GOOD NUMBER, BUT THAT'S FEEDBACK WE CAN WORK ON AND SEE IF WE CAN COME WITH SOME BETTER PARAMETERS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THINK IT GOES INTO THAT DEFINITION OF WHAT IT IS AND, AND CATEGORIZING IT TO THOMPSON'S POINT, BECAUSE A GAS STATION, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE NOT A PRIMARY EMPLOYER, SORRY. 
          YEAH, BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          PROVIDING DEFINITIONS OF PRIMARY EMPLOYER AND THE CAMPUS WOULD HELP. 
          WELL, I THINK, UM, WHAT WE'VE SEEN COME TO US SO FAR HAS BEEN RESIDENTIAL WITH SERVICES THAT SUPPORT RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND REALLY WHAT WE NEED IS, THE OTHER WAY AROUND IS WE NEED COMMERCIAL WITH JUST, IF THERE'S ANY RESIDENTIAL, IT'S RESIDENTIAL THAT SUPPORTS THE COMMERCIAL. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST FLIPPING WHAT THE, THE LOGIC IS THERE ON APPLICANT'S PART. 
          MAYBE IF WE PUT TOGETHER, UM, EXAMPLES THAT WE'VE SEEN LIKE IN OTHER CITIES THAT WE LIKE, THAT WOULD BE LIKE A EMPLOYMENT USER TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC. 
          THAT MIGHT BE A IDEA, HONESTLY, WITH MOST OF THE RESIDENTIAL WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE CITY AND MOST OF THE STUFF THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PLANNED, WE HAVE THE DENSITY TO SUPPORT ALL THEIR COMMERCIAL AND, AND USES ANYWAYS TOO AT THE END OF THE DAY. 
          BUT THERE WILL BE SOME SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS AND THAT'S WHY WE KINDA HAVE THIS IN HERE. 
          SO WE'LL USE THAT. 
          IT HAS TO MAKE SENSE THAT THE PERCENTAGE SHOULD BE USED FOR THE EXCEPTION AND WHEN IT MAKES SENSE. 
          YES. 
          NOT THE NORM. 
          YEAH, THAT WAS REALLY IT FOR THIS ITEM. 
          I DO HAVE SOME FANCY MAPS WE PUT TOGETHER THAT SHOW THE MAKEUP OF THE CENTERS AND THE EMPLOYMENT AREAS THAT I THOUGHT WERE INTERESTING. 
          LET ME FIND, WELL, REAL QUICK, I JUST WANNA ADD IN, LIKE, I DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU REALLY NEED TO DO THE WORK OF FINDING EXAMPLES IN OTHER CITIES. 
          I THINK COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH YOU BEING EMPOWERED TO JUST SAY NO PRIMARY JOBS. 
          IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST THIS LEVEL OF JOB. 
          UM, AND PROBABLY THE SAME KIND OF JOBS THAT, THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO BRING TO THE CITY RANDALL, AND JUST BE STRONG. 
          YOU GOT THIS . 
          UM, SO THIS, UM, EXHIBIT SHOWS, UM, OUR BIGGEST EMPLOYMENT CENTER, SO ALL THE KIND OF LIGHT TEAL COLOR, THAT'S ALL COMMERCIAL RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THEN THE YELLOW AREAS, THOSE ARE INTERIM RESIDENTIAL. 
          WE ANTICIPATE SEEING FUTURE ZONING CASES. 
          AND THEN THE BRIGHT GREEN, THOSE ARE AREAS THAT HAVE, UH, RESIDENTIAL TODAY. 
          HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO THE 20% THERE? 'CAUSE THAT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE 10, 10% RESIDENTIAL, 41% COMMERCIAL, 24 INTERIM. 
          AND THEN THREE IS THE, UM, LIKE INSTITUTIONAL, 
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GO BACK. 
          SEE. 
          AND SO LIKE WHEN YOU PUT IT DOWN IN A, IN A PRETTY MAP LIKE THIS, I THINK EVEN 20% RESIDENTIAL IS HIGH. 
          YES. 
          YEAH, I AGREE. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT ALSO WHEN YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT WITH SOME OF THE LARGE, UH, OTHER EXAMPLE, JUST STATEWIDE. 
          ANY, YOU JUST PICK 'EM, THEY'RE NOT TILTED SO FAR. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT OUR OVERALL FOOTPRINT, THOSE, AND I THINK ALL OF YOU HAVE MADE REFERENCE TO IT TODAY, THOSE PRIMARY JOBS ARE GOING TO HELP FILL THOSE OTHER VACANCIES AND THEY'RE IN PROXIMITY. 
          IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES IN TEXAS THAT WE'RE KIND OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS WE'RE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY. 
          AND HOW THEY COUNTERACTED THAT, HOW, WHAT LEVERS DID THEY PULL TO TO CHANGE THAT TO GREATER THE LEVEL OF COMMERCIAL? AND, AND WE CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY CITIES. 
          WELL, I I, I DO KNOW, AND I THINK WE'VE GIVEN A FEW EXAMPLES OF DIFFERENT TIMES, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT SHIRLEY LAND TOWN CENTER THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, MINUTE MAID HAS THE HEADQUARTERS THERE, YOU'VE GOT A METHODIST HOSPITAL, IT'S VERY DENSE. 
          THERE'S ONLY A HUNDRED RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THAT. 
          HOWEVER, IT'S BUILT AT THE GATEWAY TO FIRST COLONY, WHICH IS A BIG RESIDENTIAL. 
          IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S EVERYTHING FROM SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOODS, GOLF COURSES, MULTIFAMILY TOWN HOMES, SO THAT THE WOODLANDS, WE'VE GOT SOME D F W EXAMPLES AS WELL. 
          AND I THINK WE CAN REVISIT SOME OF THOSE. 
          UM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S DIFFERENT IS IN THE PAST, WITH THE HIGH GROWTH THAT'S OCCURRED THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS STATEWIDE, WHAT BECAME THE NEW DE JOUR WAS, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT IN THE URBAN CORE. 
          'CAUSE IN THE URBAN CORE, YOU CAN ABSORB LARGER NUMBERS OF HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY NEXT TO, LET'S SAY A RAIL STATION. 
          BUT IN THE SUBURBS, I THINK A LOT OF, UH, DEVELOPERS STARTED PUSHING A MIXED USE MODEL THAT WAS NOT REALLY THE TRADITIONAL MIXED USE MODEL. 
          AND I THINK NOW IT'S TIME FOR KIND OF A, A RESET TO SEE THAT SOME THINGS HAVE BEEN OVERSUPPLIED AND OTHER THINGS. 
          UNDERSUPPLIED. 
          MS. GRIFFIN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? THAT WAS IT FOR THIS ONE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          UNLESS Y'ALL HAD MORE YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. 
          NO, WE'RE GOOD. 
          UH, 
          [6. Ordinance and Fee Schedule Update]
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, ORDINANCE AND FEE SCHEDULE UPDATES ALSO WITH YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, I WANTED TO KIND OF GO OVER THE, THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE IN THE, THE PAST YEAR AND THEN OUR UPCOMING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS. 
          UM, SO IN 2022, WE ADOPTED, UH, THE FOOD TRUCK PROVISIONS AND, UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF FOOD TRUCK PERMITS. 
          UM, WE HAVE UPDATED THE DEFINITIONS AND LANDSCAPE STANDARDS TO HELP PROMOTE THE WATER CONSERVATION. 
          UM, WE'VE LAUNCHED THE DEVELOPMENT HUB, UM, FOR ALL OF OUR PERMIT REVIEW. 
          AND THEN WE UPDATED OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUBDIVISION AND ZONING ORDINANCE THAT DEALT WITH EXTENSION OF UTILITIES. 
          AND THEN WE CLARIFIED THE VERSION OF THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL WE'RE USING SINCE AUSTIN MADE SOME UPDATES THAT WE WEREN'T, UM, COMFORTABLE WITH YET. 
          UM, SO COMING UP WE HAVE, UH, QUITE A FEW THINGS GOING ON. 
          UM, ONE OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES IS WE'RE WORKING ON A SMALL BUSINESS TOOLKIT. 
          UM, THIS RELATES TO A SOFTWARE THAT SITS ON TOP OF THE DEVELOPMENT HUB. 
          SO IT SERVES AS A GUIDE TO SMALL BUSINESSES THAT AREN'T USED TO THE, THE TERMS THAT WE USE, UM, IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 
          SO IT KIND OF HELPS WALK THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          AND WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO, UM, HAVE A, A TOOLKIT, UM, THAT GIVES EXAMPLES AND SHOWS 'EM EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND GIVES THEM A PERSON TO CONTACT. 
          THAT'S GONNA BE THE MAIN CONTACT FOR ALL SMALL BUSINESSES THAT, UM, ARE TRYING TO DO A CHANGE OF TENANTS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HOST DEVELOPER FORMS SO WE CAN BETTER COMMUNICATE WITH DEVELOPERS AND THE AREA. 
          UM, FOR ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, WE HAVE, UM, QUITE A FEW UPCOMING FOR THE ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          UM, WE ARE GOING TO ADOPT SHORT-TERM RENTAL STANDARDS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO ADD PROVISIONS TO ALLOW FOR MINOR PROCESSING AND MANUFACTURING USES. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PUDS THAT WE DO RIGHT NOW, UM, BECAUSE THEY ARE A CLEAN INDUSTRIAL USE, SO THEY DON'T REALLY FIT IN HEAVY COMMERCIAL, BUT THEN THEY DON'T FIT IN GENERAL COMMERCIAL. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA WORK ON A WAY TO INCORPORATE THOSE INTO THE ORDINANCE. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA DO AN UPDATE TO THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS AND, UM, OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE, UM, A COUPLE OF NEW ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          ONE IS MIXED RESIDENTIAL, WHERE, UM, YOU COULD DO A VARIETY OF LAND OR LOT SIZES WITHIN ONE DISTRICT. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO FIELD NOTES FOR EACH LITTLE POD. 
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AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT DOING A BUSINESS PARK ZONING DISTRICT. 
          UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO UPDATE OUR SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS SO THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF UPDATES WE'RE WORKING ON WITH OUR DRY UTILITY PROCESS. 
          UM, DO Y'ALL ME TO CONTINUE WITH THE REST OF THE AMENDMENTS OR DO Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE? I THINK WE'RE GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO NEXT WE HAVE THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS. 
          UM, MARK IS WORKING REALLY HARD TO UPDATE THE PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT A MINOR PLAT PROCESS, CLARIFY THE TIMEFRAME TO COMPLETE PARK IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS UPDATES FROM THE RECENT LEGISLATIVE SESSION, UM, NOISE ORDINANCE. 
          WE'RE WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON AN OVERHAUL TO BRING IT UP TO THE CURRENT INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND SIGN ORDINANCE. 
          WE'RE OVERHAULING THAT ONE TO PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY AND ALSO ADDRESS THE CURRENT INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. 
          WE KIND OF JUST WENT OVER THAT, BUT IT'S, UH, CLARIFYING THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER AND THEN UPDATING PERMITTED USES IN THE ACTIVITY IN NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS. 
          CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES. 
          ON THE NOISE ORDINANCE, WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT IS JUST CONSTRUCTION NOISE OR ALSO RESIDENTIAL? OH, IT'S, IT'S THE WHOLE ORDINANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IT HAS REFERENCES TO LIKE PHOTOGRAPHS. 
          UM, IT'S GOT SOME REAL DATED TERMS IN IT THAT WE'RE GONNA CLEAN UP. 
          AND THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, UM, IS HARD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO MAKE IT MORE BASIC AND EASIER TO UNDERSTAND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO THE NEXT ITEM IS THE, THE FEE SCHEDULE. 
          SO EVERY YEAR, UM, STAFF POOLS THE, THE FEES FROM OTHER CITIES IN THE AREA AND WE DO A, A COMPARISON. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE KIND OF ON TRACK, LIKE SIMILAR FEES TO OTHER CITIES. 
          UM, WE ALSO SEE INSTANCES WHERE YOU HAVE TO ADD NEW FEES. 
          SO WE DON'T UPDATE IT EVERY YEAR, UM, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS YEAR TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE. 
          AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO, UM, ADOPT A ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. 
          UM, THIS KIND OF SPURRED FROM THE, THE NOISE ORDINANCE. 
          UM, WE FOUND A COUPLE OF MUNICIPALITIES THAT, UM, INCORPORATED THAT INTO THEIR ORDINANCE PACKAGE. 
          AND WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU COULD ESTABLISH A SPECIFIC AREA THAT HAS ALTERNATIVE STANDARDS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SPECIAL VARIANCE PROCESS. 
          SO WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, AREAS LIKE NORTHLINE, OLD TOWN, LEANDER SPRINGS, KIND OF WHERE YOU SEE MORE ENTERTAINMENT AND OUTDOOR USES WHERE IT'D HAVE DIFFERENT NOISE STANDARDS. 
          AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE COUNCIL WOULD, UM, DETERMINE WHERE THESE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS LIE. 
          SO OTHER THINGS WE WANTED TO ADD TO THAT WAS ALTERNATIVE LIGHTING STANDARDS AND THEN ALLOWING SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          AND THAT'LL FOLD IN WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE WE'RE WORKING ON. 
          UM, OUR LONG TERM, UM, ORDINANCE UPDATES INCLUDE, UM, LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR CITY INITIATED ZONING CASES. 
          UM, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF AREAS LIKE THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER WHERE THEY HAVE INTERIM RESIDENTIAL, AND IF WE CREATED A BUSINESS PARK DISTRICT, WE SAW AN OPPORTUNITY TO INITIATE A ZONING CASE WITH THE LANDOWNER AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS DISTRICT, UM, THIS IS THE RIGHT AREA FOR IT. 
          AND JUST DO A ZONING CASE FOR THEIR PROPERTY. 
          WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM, BUT IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO REMOVE THAT INTERIM RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO ARE LOOKING INTO ENGAGING WITH THE T O D PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE REMAINING THAT AREN'T DEVELOPED YET, UM, TO KIND OF SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT AND WHAT THEIR PLAN IS AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THE CITY CAN DO TO HELP. 
          AND THEN, UM, IMPLEMENTING THE VARIOUS GOALS OF THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          SO IN YOUR PACKAGE, I HAVE A MORE THOROUGH TABLE WITH MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT EACH SECTION WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE ORDINANCE UPDATES, AS WELL AS THE FEE SCHEDULE. 
          UM, THE FEE SCHEDULE SHOWS THE CITIES WE ALWAYS COMPARE TO. 
          IT'S GEORGETOWN, CEDAR PARK, GROUND ROCK HU AND PFLUGERVILLE LANDERS AND BLUE. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          SO IF I'M, I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, COUNSEL. 
          I SAID IT REALLY FAST. 
          THAT WAS GOOD. 
          COUNSEL THOUGHTS? DO YOU NEED A MINUTE TO DIGEST? WE GOOD? Y'ALL CAN DIGEST IT AND WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN, LIKE LATER IF WE NEEDED TO. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE WE ALL GOOD TO MOVE ON? YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. GRIFFIN. 
          UH, STAY TUNED. 
          ITEM SEVEN, 
          [7. Update on Development Process Review recommendations ]
UPDATE ON DEVELOPMENT PROCESS REVIEW RECOMMENDATION ALSO WITH MS. GRIFFIN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO I'M PROVIDING, UH, AN UPDATE ON THE BARRY DUNN FINDINGS. 
          UM, I GAVE THIS UPDATE IN FEBRUARY TO SHOW THE DIFFERENT ITEMS WE ADDRESSED. 
          SO, UM, THE ITEMS THAT ARE MARKED IN GREEN ARE COMPLETES BLUE, WE'RE WORKING ON 'EM AND RED IS INCOMPLETE. 
          UM, WE ALSO REVIEWED THESE ITEMS WITH THE A C E A AND THE H B A ABOUT OUR, OUR STATUS. 
          UM, SO THE FIRST ONE, UM, THE APPLICATION SUBMITTAL PROCESS HAVING SEVERAL STEPS INCLUDING, UM, THAT WERE TIME CONSUMING FOR APPLICANTS AND STAFF. 
          SO WHAT WE DID, UM, WITH THIS ITEM IS, UH, WE HAD TWO COMPLETENESS CHECK STEPS. 
          SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE APPLICANT WOULD TURN IN THEIR MATERIALS, WE WOULD LOOK AT 'EM, MAKE SURE WE HAD THE APPLICATION, THE DEEDED, THE 
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PLANS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 
          THEN WE'D HAVE A SECOND COMPLETENESS CHECK WHERE WE'D HAVE THE REVIEWERS LOOK TO SEE IF THEY ACTUALLY HAD WHAT WE NEEDED IN A DRAINAGE REPORT OR WHAT WAS ON THE ACTUAL PLAN SETS ITSELF. 
          SO WHAT WE DID IS WE ELIMINATED THAT SECOND COMPLETENESS STEP. 
          SO WE HANDLED THAT AS PART OF THE REVIEW NOW. 
          SO THAT HELPED MOVE THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT FASTER. 
          UM, THE, THE SECOND ITEM WAS A LIMITED WINDOW OF TIME FOR AN APPLICATION SUBMITTAL. 
          SO IN 2019 WHEN THEY ADOPTED THE CHANGES TO THE, THE HOUSE BILL, UM, THEY WERE RESTRICTED WITH HOW MUCH TIME WE HAD TO REVIEW A PLAN SET. 
          SO WE CHANGED OUR PROCESS TO SAY, WE'LL TAKE YOUR APPLICATION ON A TUESDAY AND YOU'LL GET YOUR COMMENTS BACK 30 DAYS LATER. 
          WE SET IT UP THAT WAY 'CAUSE WE HAD TO LINE UP WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS. 
          UM, SO WHAT WE DID TO ADDRESS THIS CONCERN IS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT HUB. 
          WE LET THEM TURN IN THEIR PLANS AT ANY TIME AND THEN WE HAVE A FILING DATE THAT COMES INTO PLAY. 
          SO WHEN WE WERE DOING IT BY PAPER, WE WOULD HAVE PEOPLE WANTING TO DROP OFF ALL THESE PAPER COPIES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO KEEP FOR A WEEK AND WE DIDN'T HAVE SPACE. 
          AND YOU RUN THE RISK OF LOSING PLANS. 
          UM, THIS SEEMS TO BE WORKING WELL. 
          SO I THINK WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT ONE. 
          MS. GRIFFIN, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          SORRY. 
          UM, SO ON THE, THE BARRY DUNN RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF WE WERE DOING SOME OF THESE, UM, ON THE ONE YOU HAVE LISTED AS NUMBER ONE, STREAMLINING THE APPLICATION SUBMITTAL PROCESS, THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED, UM, USING THE ONLINE SUBMISSION PORTAL TO DEVELOP AN ONLINE CHECKLIST OR SET UP STANDARD REQUIREMENTS TO BE SUBMITTED FOR EACH APPLICATION AND DEVELOP A PROTOCOL TO MEET WITH APPLICANTS THAT HAVE DIFFICULTY PASSING COMPLETE LISTS COMPLETENESS PROCESS TO GUIDE THEM THROUGH THE COMPLETENESS REQUIREMENTS. 
          IS ALL OF THAT RESOLVED WITH ENTER GOV? CORRECT. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          SO WE'VE UPDATED ALL OF OUR CHECKLIST AND UM, WE MEET WITH APPLICANTS WHEN THEY START TO HAVE ISSUES GETTING THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN ON YOUR NUMBER TWO, UM, INCLUDE A STEP IN THE ONLINE PROCESS THAT DEEMS AN APPLICATION COMPLETE WHEN IT PASSES THE COMPLETENESS CHECK. 
          THAT'S PART OF IT TOO. 
          YEP. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU MAY GO ON. 
          SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, NUMBER THREE. 
          THE INTERNAL REVIEW PROCESS INVOLVES MULTIPLE PROGRAMS ACROSS SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS AND DOES NOT INCLUDE A STANDARD PROCESS FOR COMMUNICATION AMONG UM, REVIEWERS. 
          UM, SO THIS WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW WE USED MY PERMIT NOW AND PAPER SUBMITTALS FOR THE PROCESS. 
          SO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WERE USING DIFFERENT PLATFORMS AND UM, WITH THE LAUNCH OF THE DEVELOPMENT HUB, WE'RE NOW ALL USING THE SAME PROGRAM AND WE'VE, UM, STARTED USING BLUEBEAM. 
          SO WE'RE ABLE TO ENTER INTO WHAT'S CALLED A BLUEBEAM SESSION. 
          AND WHEN A REVIEW STARTS, YOU COULD HAVE AN ENGINEERING PERSON, PLANNING PERSON, PARKS AND FIRE ALL MARKING UP THE SAME PLAN SET AT THE SAME TIME. 
          I CAN SEE WHAT ENGINEERING DOES WHEN I'M DOING MY STUFF. 
          SO IT IS A BETTER COMMUNICATION TOOL. 
          SO WE'VE IMPROVED THAT ONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ON PART OF THAT, THEY SAID ESTABLISHED MARKUP STANDARDS TO BE USED BY ALL REVIEWERS, INCLUDING ESTABLISHING COLORS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT'S COMMENTS, STANDARDIZING SYMBOLOGY USED IN MARKUPS AND DEVELOPING COMMON TERMINOLOGY TO BE USED IN THE PROCESS. 
          REVIEW AND DEVELOP A STANDARD SET OF COMMON REVIEW COMMENTS TO STREAMLINE THE REVIEW PROCESS. 
          DID WE GET BOTH OF THOSE? I'M PURPLE. 
          YAY. 
          YEAH, . 
          OKAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO ALL OF THAT IS OFF THE LIST. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAVE A TOOLKIT, UM, FOR THE REVIEWERS TO USE. 
          WE'RE ALL CLASSIFIED BY A COLOR. 
          WE LET FIRE BE RED TOO, SO WE YEAH. 
          . 
          THAT'S ALL I WANTED. 
          MM-HMM. 
           AND I'M SORRY, GINA'S BROWN. 
          YEAH, I'M SORRY. 
          . 
          WE KNOW WHY. 
          YEAH. 
          WASTEWATER WASTE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO NUMBER FOUR. 
          UM, THERE ARE NOT ADEQUATE COORDINATION MEETINGS FOR DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED IN THE DEPARTMENT REVIEW PROCESS. 
          UM, SO WE'VE LAUNCHED TEAMS SO WE CAN BETTER COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND WE ALSO USE THOSE BLUEBEAM SESSIONS TO TALK TO EACH OTHER. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND ON THAT ONE THEY SAID ESTABLISH A RECURRING MEETING TIME THAT IS INCLUSIVE TO ALL DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL ARE DOING THAT TOGETHER. 
          YEAH. 
          IN THE BLUEBEAM SESSIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE DO MEET WITH EACH OTHER WHEN WE HAVE HARD ONES WE WANNA TALK ABOUT. 
          AWESOME. 
          AND THEN DEFINE THE MEETING STRUCTURE, INCLUDING A DEFINED TIMEFRAME. 
          MEETING FORMAT AND MEETING SUMMARIES. 
          MINUTES. 
          WE DON'T TAKE MINUTES OF OUR IN-HOUSE MEETINGS. 
          I GUESS WE COULD, BUT IT'S KIND OF EXTRA. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT YOU HAVE THE STRUCTURE AND MM-HMM. 
          , I THINK WE GOT THAT UNDER CONTROL AND THEN SET AN AGENDA AND SHARE WITH PARTICIPANTS PRIOR TO EACH MEETING TO HELP ENSURE THAT THE MEETING TIME IS USED EFFECTIVELY AND THAT PARTICIPANTS CAN ATTEND AND PROVIDE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. 
          WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN AGENDA, BUT I THINK WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE UP TO IN THAT, THAT MEETING. 
          'CAUSE IT'S USUALLY JUST A STAFF GROUP. 
          AWESOME. 
          AND LAST ONE, SOLICIT STAFF INPUT ON AGENDA TOP. 
          WAIT, YOU DON'T HAVE AN AGENDA. 
          WE GET SO MUCH INPUT FROM EACH OTHER. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          IT'S AMAZING. 
          PERFECT. 
          . 
          THANK YOU. 
          IMPRESSIVE. 
          YEAH. 
          NUMBER FIVE. 
          OKAY, NUMBER FIVE. 
          THIS IS ONE WE'RE STILL WORKING ON. 
          UM, SO THIS IS OUR CHANGE OF TENANT PROCESS AND IT SAYS, UH, C O T APPLICANTS FOR OFTEN UNINFORMED ABOUT THE REVIEW PROCESS 
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AND FREQUENTLY SUBMIT INCOMPLETE APPLICATIONS. 
          UM, SO THIS GOES BACK TO THE CAMINO SOFTWARE WHERE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING GUIDES THAT WILL HELP WALK 'EM THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          UM, WE ACTUALLY GOT OUR FIRST PREVIEW OF IT LAST MONTH AND THEN WE HAVE AN UPDATE COMING. 
          I THINK IT'S IT'S NEXT WEEK TO WALK THROUGH HOW THAT'S WORKING. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO CHANGED, UH, INTERNALLY WHAT WE DO. 
          SO I NOW HAVE ONE POINT OF CONTACT THAT ANSWERS ALL CALLS ABOUT CHANGE OF TENANT AND ALL EMAILS. 
          SO IF ANYONE HAS A QUESTION, SHE WILL CALL THEM BACK. 
          AND WE SET UP A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING WITH, UM, WITH NEW CUSTOMERS AND WE WORK WITH THE CHAMBER TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH EVERYBODY, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT ONE. 
          AND ON THAT ACTION ITEM, THEY ALSO SAID ESTABLISH A PROCESS FOR REQUESTING, FACILITATING PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS, INCLUDING IDENTIFYING REVIEWERS TO PARTICIPATE, CREATING RECURRING SCHEDULING OR BLOCK TIME FOR PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS AND COMPILING MATERIALS AND RESOURCES TO BE PROVIDED TO APPLICANTS PRIOR TO OR AT THAT PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING. 
          ARE WE WORKING ON PROVIDING THOSE TO CHANGE A TENANT? THAT'S OUR, OUR TOOLKIT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THE, FOR THE SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A TOOLKIT WHERE IT'S GONNA HAVE KIND OF PRO TIPS. 
          HERE'S WHAT YOU DO, A FLOW CHART AND THEN WE HAVE THE OPTION TO DO THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'LL BE AN OPTION. 
          YEAH. 
          IN THE TOOLKIT WE DON'T REQUIRE IT 'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO WE DON'T WANNA WEAR THEM OUT WITH, UM, ALL THESE EXTRA STEPS. 
          BUT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE NEW TO IT, WE'RE WORKING ON THE TOOLKIT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT IN READING THROUGH THIS. 
          IS IT READ LIKE, WELL WE'RE GIVING THEM A TOOLKIT, SO I LIKE THAT THE, THERE'S THE TOOLKIT AND IF YOU'RE STILL CONFUSED, YOU CAN STILL HAVE A MEETING. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING THAT THEY LISTED WAS STANDARDIZED THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS BY PREPARING A SET OF THE MOST COMMON APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS IN THE CHANGE OF TENANT PROCESS. 
          IS THAT PART OF THE TOOLKIT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          WE HAVE DRAFT NOTES TOO THAT ARE GONNA BE A TEMPLATE THAT GETS SENT OUT. 
          NICE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WILL THE, ON THE, FOR THE CHANGE OF TENANT, 'CAUSE I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PERSON WALKING THROUGH. 
          UM, IS THAT ALSO PLANNING TO BE PART OF THE NEW CITY WEBSITE SO THAT, UH, I, THERE'S A LINK THAT SAYS DO YOU WANNA OPEN A BUSINESS? WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS I GET A PAGE , I'M GETTING A PAGE. 
          YOU PROBABLY NEED A COUPLE OF PAGES MM-HMM. 
           ROBIN. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BUT WILL THAT, 'CAUSE I KNOW WHEN I WAS OPENING BUSINESSES IN TWO OTHER CITIES, ALTHOUGH THEY WERE ALSO VERY DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH, UM, I COULD JUST GO TO A DROP LINK ON THEIR CITY WEBSITES AND IT WOULD WALK ME THROUGH EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO DO. 
          UM, THE, THE CAMINO TOOL AND THE TOOLKIT THAT ARE IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE WILL TRANSLATE A LOT OF THAT CONTENT TO, AND ORGANIZE IT UNDER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ON THE, ON THE NEW WEBSITE. 
          IT'LL PARALLEL EXACTLY WHAT IS BEING COMMUNICATED THROUGH INTER GOV AND, AND IT MAY BE MORE STATIC INFORMATION THAN WHAT YOU WOULD SEE WITHIN THE, THE COMMUNAL PLATFORM THAT WOULD LIVE ON INTER GOV, BUT RIGHT. 
          UM, IT WOULD BE THE SAME INFORMATION. 
          WELL, INFORMATION'S NOT ACTUALLY TO DO IT, IT WOULD JUST TELL YOU WHERE YOU NEED TO GO AND HAVE THE HYPERLINKS TO IT THERE. 
          BUT ALSO IN SOMETHING CALLED DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES, IT'S LIKE, I WANT DO BUSINESS IN LEANDER. 
          MM-HMM. 
           SOMETHING THAT I WOULD KNOW IS A NEWBIE JUST TRYING TO OPEN MY WIDGET SHOP. 
          I DON'T KNOW, TO GO LOOK AT DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES AND, UM, WHEN WE GET TO MY ITEM, I'LL, I'LL HIGHLIGHT THAT. 
          CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION. 
          AND IF IT'S NOT IN THE RIGHT PLACE, THAT'S OKAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
           ABOUT THE PERMITTING, THE INSPECTION PROCESS. 
          SO I KNOW THAT WE KIND OF, WELL, MAYBE NOT ME AND YOU, BUT ME AND MIKE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT A PARTICULAR, UM, CUSTOMER THAT BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION ABOUT THEIR WHOLE PERMIT, THE CHANGE OF TENANCY PROCESS FOR THEM AND THEIR INSPECTION NOT GOING AS, AS THEY THOUGHT IT SHOULD GO. 
          AND THEN, SO HOW, ARE YOU GUYS STILL BEING MADE AWARE OF CHALLENGES THAT ARE HAPPENING WITH THIS PROCESS? OR ARE SOME OF THESE THINGS ALREADY IN PLACE? SO THOSE CHALLENGES SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING? LIKE, IS, WAS THAT LIKE A ONE-OFF SITUATION? SO ON, ON THAT ONE, UM, WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT WAS MISCOMMUNICATED THAT THEY HAD A SPECIFIC TIME FOR AN INSPECTION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BUT OUR SOLUTION IS NOW WHEN FIRE SETS A SPECIFIC TIME, UH, PERMITS GOES, SO WE'RE JUST DOING THEM ALL AT ONCE INSTEAD OF RUNNING THE RISK OF THEM THINKING THEY HAVE IT AT A DIFFERENT TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BOTH INSPECTIONS HAPPEN TOGETHER. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO THAT WAS KIND OF OUR, OUR SOLVE ON THAT ONE. 
          UM, WE HAVE SET UP A, UM, SURVEY FOR DEVELOPMENT HUB, UM, ON THE WEBSITE AND WE'RE ALREADY GETTING LOTS OF FEEDBACK. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO PEOPLE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TELL US THEIR CONCERNS. 
          AND DO YOU HAVE LIKE INFORMATION ON IF, HOW OFTEN THAT WAS HAPPENING BEFORE OR DID IT APPEAR TO BE A ONE-OFF SITUATION? THAT WAS MY FIRST TIME HEARING IT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          I KNOW OF ONE OTHER INCIDENT BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO ME. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS CONTINUED TO HAPPEN WHERE WE HAVE ISSUES WITH INSPECTIONS AND BECAUSE THE PERSON IS NOT THERE, THEY'RE FAILING THEIR INSPECTION AND HAVING TO RESCHEDULE AND GET ALL THAT OUT. 
          AND THAT WAS A QUESTION I HAD FOR COUNCIL 
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MEMBER THOMPSON EARLIER TOO, IS, UH, SO COUNCIL, THE BACKGROUND ON THIS IS SOMEBODY CAME TO COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON, THEY HAD BEEN WAITING FOR THEIR, THEIR PERMIT OR NOT THEIR PERMIT, THEIR INSPECTION. 
          THEY WERE GIVEN AN INSPECTION TIME AND ON OUR END IT'S A WINDOW, BUT IN THE EMAIL I GUESS THAT GOES OUT OR IN THE, THE PORTAL, IT'S AN EXACT TIME. 
          AND SO SINCE IT'S A WINDOW, IF YOU'RE NOT THERE, THEY JUST SAY FAIL INSPECTION AND MOVE ON. 
          BUT YOU DON'T KNOW IT'S A WINDOW, SO YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY THERE. 
          UM, AND WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE PERSON DOING INSPECTIONS, THEY'RE LIKE, NO, IT'S ALWAYS A WINDOW. 
          AND SO THERE WAS A DISCONNECT IN WHAT WE WERE TELLING USERS, I GUESS, VERSUS WHAT WE WERE TELLING, AT LEAST IN THIS INSTANCE. 
          AND SO, UM, WHEN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT, ALL OF US, UM, I KNOW WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT PULLING METRICS TO SEE HOW, HOW OFTEN WE WERE GIVING THESE, THESE FAILS FOR PEOPLE NOT BEING THERE TO SEE IF THIS WAS A BIGGER PROBLEM AND, AND NEEDED MORE CORRECTION. 
          SO I COULD TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN PULL THAT INFORMATION. 
          UM, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DUPLICATE THE PROBLEM WHERE IT GAVE YOU A SPECIFIC TIME FOR THE INSPECTION. 
          UM, NOT SAYING IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, WE JUST CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW THEY DID IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT OUR SOLUTION WAS WHEN FIRE SETS UP A SPECIFIC TIME APPOINTMENT, WE'RE GOING, SO IT KIND OF MAKES, MAKES THE WINDOW GO AWAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S LIKE FIRE, IF THEY GO AT ONE O'CLOCK, PERMITS GOES AT ONE O'CLOCK. 
          OKAY. 
          WOULD YOU ALSO NEED TO, WHEN YOU PULL THAT DATA, LOOK AT COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANALOG I WOULD THINK TOO. 
          RESIDENTIAL, IT'S USUALLY NOT A PERSON HAVING TO BE THERE. 
          UM, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. 
          RESIDENTIAL, YOU CAN'T BE THERE OTHERWISE THEY TELL YOU. 
          YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, SO THAT'S A, IF SOMEBODY'S IN THE BUILDING, THEY'LL LEAVE. 
          THE ONE I'M THINKING ABOUT, LIKE FOR ME SPECIFICALLY IS LIKE A POOL PERMIT. 
          SO I HAD TO BE THERE MM-HMM. 
           AND WAS THERE OKAY. 
          BUT STILL WAS MARKED AS OKAY. 
          A FAIL BECAUSE I WASN'T THERE. 
          GOTCHA. 
          UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST WONDERING, AND IT WAS A TIME, A SPECIFIC TIME AND I WAS THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DISCONNECT WAS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT SOUNDS PRETTY SIMPLE. 
          JUST MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER, IT'S A WINDOW, WHAT WHATEVER, UH, UH, COMMUNICATION IS GOING OUT JUST AS IT'S A WINDOW OF TIME. 
          AND SO WE WEREN'T SURE IF IT WAS THE SYSTEM CREATING THE DISCONNECT THAT WHATEVER WE CHANGED TO OUR NEW HUB THAT WE CHANGED TO, IF IT'S GIVING A WINDOW OR IF WE'RE, WE USED TO DO A WINDOW AND NOW IT'S GIVEN A SPECIFIC TIME. 
          I JUST WASN'T SURE. 
          WELL, AND IN, IN YOUR INSTANCE, IN YOUR INSTANCE, FROM THE TIME YOU GOT FROM WHERE YOU WERE IN THE HOUSE TO THE DOOR PERSON, THE INSPECTOR LEFT, THE PERSON WAS GONE. 
          AND SO WHAT I'M WONDERING IS IF THERE'S A WAY IN THE SYSTEM TO TAG, IF WE'RE SEEING A HIGH NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AREN'T HERE ON INSPECTIONS, SO I'M ONLY GONNA JUMP IN TO SAY, UM, BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THIS IN, IN, IN SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT I WORK WITH IN OUR PHONE SYSTEM, IMPROVING OUR, OUR PHONE TREES, IMPROVING OUR RESPONSE TIMES AND, AND ENSURING THAT PEOPLE WHO CALL US, WE RETAIN THAT INFORMATION AND, AND SEEK TO, UH, RESOLVE ANY ISSUES THAT ARE ADDRESSED. 
          BUT GOING BACK, UH, I KNOW THAT SOME, SOMETIMES APPLICANTS AREN'T PROVIDING BOTH EMAIL AND PHONE, UH, TO GIVE US THE CAPABILITY OF, OF REACHING THEM INSTANTLY WHEN WE DO ENCOUNTER AN ISSUE. 
          OR WE THINK THERE MAY BE A MISCOMMUNICATION. 
          SOMETIMES IT TAKES LEAD TIME TO ESTABLISH THAT COMMUNICATION TRACK IF IT'S NOT ALREADY THERE. 
          SO, UH, IT COULD BE A REQUIREMENT IN THE SYSTEM HAVING PHONE NUMBER AND EMAIL. 
          IT COULD BE SOME OTHER THINGS. 
          BUT WHAT I'M GETTING MORE TOWARDS IS WHAT IF WE WERE TO HAVE AN INSPECTOR, AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS HAPPENED, BUT IT OPENS UP THE POSSIBILITY IN MY MIND OF WHAT IF WE HAD AN INSPECTOR THAT WAS REALLY QUICK AND PUNCHY AT THE DOOR AND IS JUST FAILING PEOPLE? DO WE HAVE SOMETHING IN OUR SYSTEM THAT WOULD FLAG A HIGH NUMBER OF THOSE THAT WOULD LET US KNOW THERE'S SOME PROBLEM EITHER WITH THAT INSPECTOR OR WITH OUR SYSTEM WHERE WE'RE GOING OVER WHAT, 10% OR WHATEVER WOULD BE CONSIDERED NORMAL? I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD FLY IT, BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO RUN REPORTS. 
          SO I CAN CHECK INTO THAT AND SEE WHAT, WHAT'S WOULD SEEM TO BE LIKE A MANAGEMENT REPORT. 
          YEAH. 
          I AGREE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WHEN WE COMPARE IT TO LIKE, CALL CENTERS, YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE KIND OF THING THAT IS DONE TYPICALLY IN CALL CENTERS IS LOOKING AT THE, THE TIMES AND, AND HOW LONG EACH PERSON'S ON THE CALL AND RUNNING THE METRICS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, BUT STILL IN THE SHORT TIMEFRAME THAT THEY NEED TO DO CALL CENTER. 
          SO I WAS GONNA SAY THE SAME THING. 
          IT'S ALSO THAT TECHNICIAN SHOULD BE KIND OF SENDING A TEXT MAYBE TO SAY, I'M ON MY WAY. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT ALL MY TECHNICIANS ALWAYS DO. 
          UM, IT'S JUST KIND OF OVER COMMUNICATE MM-HMM. 
           WHEN THEY'RE GONNA GET THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. 
          I KNOW THEY EACH DO ABOUT 75 A DAY. 
          IT'D BE A LOT OF TEXTS. 
          THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING TEXTING INSTEAD OF CALLING. 
          BUT MAYBE THAT'S AN OPTION. 
          I THINK THOSE ARE AUTOMATED FROM A LOT OF SERVICE PLACES NOW BECAUSE I'M SEEING THAT A LOT. 
          HAVE MY AC FIXED. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          ANYBODY'S COMING OUT TO WORK ON THE YARD. 
          THERE'S LIKE THESE AUTOMATED MESSAGES THAT SAY, HEY, I AM ON MY WAY, EXPECT ME IN THE NEXT 30 MINUTES. 
          AND THEY SEEM TO JUST, THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE FROM A PERSON, THEY SEEM TO BE FROM SOME COMPUTER SYSTEM. 
          SO MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO THAT, 
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THAT'S CERTAINLY A TECHNOLOGY SOLUTION THAT WOULD BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER IF WE WANTED TO AUTOMATE SOME OF THOSE THINGS. 
          UM, I KNOW OUR, SOME OF OUR PHONE SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS, UH, ASIDE FROM THE PHONE TREES, WE ENGAGE A, AN AT T REP THAT WE WORK WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS TO IMPROVE THAT. 
          IT'S STILL MORE OF A MANUAL PROCESS. 
          AND WE ARE DOING SOME OF OUR OWN MANUAL, UM, NOTATIONS OF PHONE CALLS THAT, PARTICULARLY IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING FOR TRENDS. 
          YOU KNOW, IF WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED CALLS IN A DAY OF, OF RENTING, YOU KNOW, THE BLEDSOE FIELDS, WE LOOK FOR THAT TREND AND I TRY AND IDENTIFY, HEY, ARE WE MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY OR IS THIS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE MAYBE LOOKING FOR? SO LOGGING SOME OF THOSE THINGS ON OUR END HAS BEEN HELPFUL SO FAR. 
          SO I THINK WHAT WE WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO SEE IN THE FUTURE IS SOME INFORMATION ON WHAT OUR INTERNAL CONTROLS ARE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO YOU WERE ON NUMBER SIX. 
          CAN'T WRITE THAT FAST. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          UM, NO, YOU'RE FINE. 
          SO, UM, NUMBER SIX. 
          THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS INCLUDES THE USE OF MULTIPLE SYSTEMS, WHICH CAN BE CONSUMING FOR STAFF AND CONFUSING FOR APPLICANTS. 
          UM, THIS WAS SOLVED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT HUB. 
          THIS IS WHEN, IS WHEN WE HAD THE PAPER PROCESS AND MY PERMIT NOW. 
          UM, NUMBER SEVEN. 
          WHAT, SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION ON NUMBER SIX. 
          WHY IS ENGINEERING, UH, NOT CURRENTLY IN INCLUDED IN THEY, THEY ARE. 
          UM, SO WHEN WE FIRST LAUNCHED THEY WERE NOT, AND BARRY DUNN RECOMMENDED THAT WE ADD THEM AND WE DID. 
          IT WAS THE INSPECTORS. 
          SO THE ENGINEERING INSPECTOR INSPECTORS ARE STILL NOT IN IT. 
          THEY ARE, THEY WEREN'T. 
          IT SAYS WHEN BARRY DUNN DID THEIR REPORT. 
          SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE IMPLEMENTED. 
          OKAY. 
          IT SAYS IN YOUR MATRIX LATER ON, ENGINEERING INSPECTION IS CURRENTLY NOT PART. 
          THEY ARE NOW. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, NUMBER SEVEN, IS THE WEBSITE THE NEXT ITEM? 'CAUSE IT'S INCOMPLETE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, NUMBER EIGHT. 
          UH, BUSINESS PARTNERS DO NOT FEEL THEY ARE PROVIDED OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE INPUT ON POLICY AND REGULATORY CHANGES. 
          UM, WE HAD OUR FIRST, UH, DEVELOPER, UH, FORUM JULY 19TH. 
          WE'VE ALSO PERMIT PARTICIPATED IN THE CHAMBER SUMMIT, AND WE HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE H P A AND A C A A TO SOLVE THIS ONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ON THAT ONE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDED DEVELOP A MASTER CONTACT LIST OF BUSINESS PARTNERS IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. 
          DO WE HAVE THAT DONE? EXCELLENT. 
          INCLUDE CITY LEADERSHIP AND REPRESENTATION. 
          I WAS THERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WERE YOU THE ONLY ONE THERE FROM STAFF? NO. 
          UH, RANDALL WAS THERE. 
          EMILY WAS THERE. 
          TONY WAS THERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, GOOD MIX. 
          DAN WAS THERE. 
          DAN SAT IN THE AUDIENCE THOUGH, DEVELOP A DESIRED FREQUENCY AND TIME FOR THE DEVELOPERS FORUM. 
          SO THAT'S AN INTERESTING ONE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WORK THROUGH. 
          THAT'S LATER IN MY, MY PACKAGE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT ONE IS STILL WORKING ON. 
          AND THEN MAKE A FORUM KICKOFF ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE DEVELOPER'S FORUM. 
          I'M NOT REALLY SURE. 
          THAT WAS RICK DID THAT. 
          HE SAID, WELCOME TO THE DEVELOPER FORUM. 
          THAT WORKS. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I, YEAH. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS . 
          I'M SORRY, CAN YOU TELL ME THE ACRONYM? A C E A, WHAT IS THAT CALLED? UH, AUSTIN CONTRACTORS AND ENGINEER ASSOCIATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN SORT OF TYING INTO THE ONE THAT'S STILL BEING WORKED ON, ESTABLISHED AN ANNUAL SCHEDULE OF MEETINGS. 
          YES. 
          I'M GUESSING PUBLISHING THAT WELL, WE KIND OF WANT FEEDBACK FROM Y'ALL. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO THAT'LL BE, WE COULD SKIP TO THAT IF YOU WANT ME TO, AND THEN ESTABLISH AGENDAS AND DISTRIBUTE THEM IN ADVANCE. 
          I DID. 
          YAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE I WAS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, NUMBER NINE. 
          THERE'S NO STANDARD PROCESS FOR INTERNAL COMMUNICATION DURING THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. 
          AND STAFF ARE CHALLENGED TO MANAGE EMAILS. 
          UM, SO WE LAUNCHED TEAMS, UM, TO HELP US WITH OUR COMMUNICATION AS WELL AS USING THE BLUEBEAM SESSIONS. 
          SO, SO YOU AND DANIEL . 
          WE STILL DO THAT. 
          . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          PEOPLE, TWO OF THE ITEMS ON THERE PROVIDE A MICROSOFT TEAMS ONLINE TRAINING OPTION OF MICROSOFT 365. 
          DO WE DO THAT FOR ALL STAFF? I DON'T, YES. 
          HAVE THEY ALL TAKEN IT? SAY THAT AGAIN. 
          HAVE WE DONE LIKE OPEN SESSION TRAINING MEETINGS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR? SO THERE'S TWO ITEMS ON HERE. 
          PROVIDE A MICROSOFT TEAMS ONLINE TRAINING OPTION OF MICROSOFT 365, AND THEN CREATE AN F A Q FOR STAFF ON HOW TO USE MICROSOFT TEAMS TO COMMUNICATE. 
          I THINK WHAT THEY'RE GETTING AT, UH, IN THE RECOMMENDATION IS MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYTHING THAT THE TOOL CAN DO AND HOW TO USE IT MOST EFFECTIVELY. 
          SO, UH, R I T STAFF HAVE BEEN ENGAGED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AS, AS PRETTY MUCH EVERY DEPARTMENT YOU'VE TOUCHED NOW, UH, IMPLEMENTING TEAMS 365. 
          WE'VE TALKED WITH, UH, STAFF AT ALL LEVELS ON, ON UTILIZING TEAMS. SO, UH, RATHER THAN DOING SORT OF A SESSION LIKE THIS WHERE WE'RE TRAINING 10, 20 PEOPLE AT ONCE, WE'RE DOING IT ONE-ON-ONE 
          [04:10:01]
AND, AND OUR IT STAFF SUPPORTING THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, NUMBER 10. 
          THE REVIEW OF REVISIONS IS NOT PRIORITIZED, RESULTING IN LENGTHY REVIEW PROCESS. 
          UM, SO THIS WAS SPEAKING TO WHEN YOU COME IN, UM, WITH A SECOND OR A THIRD REVIEW. 
          UM, THE TIME IT TOOK TO GO THROUGH REVIEW PROCESS. 
          UM, WE INCLUDE A REDUCED REVIEW TIME FOR REVISIONS. 
          UM, I THINK CUSTOMERS FELT LIKE THEY WERE PUT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST AND THEY HAD TO WAIT FOR THE FIRST REVIEWS TO FINISH. 
          BUT WE HAVE A SET SCHEDULE, SO THEY'RE REVIEWED, UH, IN TWO WEEKS INSTEAD OF FOUR. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ON THIS ONE IT ALSO INCLUDES PERIODICALLY REVIEW, DEVELOPMENT, REVIEW, PERFORMANCE METRICS, I E BIWEEKLY REVIEW OF APPLICATIONS OUTSIDE THE ESTABLISHED PERFORMANCE METRICS. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY INTERNAL CONTROLS TO SORT OF REVIEW THAT OR, UM, SO WITH THE, THE HUB, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF REPORTING OPPORTUNITIES WE'RE STILL TRYING TO, TO FIGURE OUT. 
          UM, BUT I CAN, I CAN PRODUCE A LOT OF STUFF. 
          I JUST NEED TO LEARN HOW TO DO IT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN ON YOUR MATRIX IT HAS, WHEN ENTER GOV LAUNCHES, IT'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPLY PERFORMANCE METRICS. 
          UH, OH, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT. 
          AND THEN ANNUAL CALENDARS FOR MAJOR DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION TYPES SHOULD BE EASILY ACCESSIBLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. 
          I KNOW WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WEBSITE LATER, BUT DO WE HAVE THE ANNUAL CALENDARS FOR MAJOR DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION TYPES ON THERE? YES. 
          HOW DO WE FIND THOSE? BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FIND THEM LAST NIGHT. 
          UM, SO IF YOU GO TO, WE HAVE A SITE DEVELOPMENT PAGE AND A SUBDIVISION PAGE, AND AT THE BOTTOM IS ALL OF THE SUBMITTAL SCHEDULES. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, WILL BE PART OF OUR WEBSITE UPDATE, I HOPE. 
          UM, WE'LL GET TO HAVE A, A PAGE THAT PROVIDES MORE GUIDANCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PAGE AND THE SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT PAGE. 
          AND THEN, AND IF YOU GO TO ANY OF THE APPLICATION CHECKLIST, THERE'S A LINK TO IT AS WELL. 
          A LINK ON THE CHECKLIST. 
          MM-HMM. 
           AND WHAT'S IT CALLED? UH, SUBMITTAL SCHEDULE. 
          SUBMITTED SUBMITTAL SCHEDULE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER 11. 
          STAFF AND BUSINESS PARTNERS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HIGH TURNOVER IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND THE EFFECT ON THE PROCESS. 
          AND, UM, EMILY HAS STARTED AND I THINK WE HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF TURNOVER. 
          I FEEL LIKE WE'VE EVENED OUT, SO IT'S 'CAUSE SHE'S FABULOUS. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALSO WRAPPED UP A, THERE'S ALSO A SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT'S WRAPPED UP THAT, UH, SEEMED TO HAVE, UH, SEEMED TO BE A TURNOVER FACILITATOR, A PUBLIC PROJECT. 
          I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NUMBER 12. 
          BUSINESS PARTNERS EXPRESSED A CHALLENGE IN RECEIVING TIMELY RESPONSE TO EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS. 
          SO MIKE HAS CREATED A CUSTOMER SERVICE POLICY THAT I BELIEVE HE SHARED WITH STAFF. 
          UM, IN PLANNING AND PERMITS, WE NOW HAVE A PERSON THAT'S ASSIGNED TO THE ALL PLANNING EMAIL AND ALL PERMITS EMAIL THAT WILL SEND A RESPONSE WITHIN 24 HOURS, EVEN IF IT IS, I GOT YOUR EMAIL AND WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND. 
          BUT WE'VE, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT IN PLANNING AND PERMITS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'VE GOT THE INITIAL RESPONSE GOING OUT, AND THEN HOW ARE WE FOLLOWING UP? MAKING SURE PEOPLE AREN'T JUST FALLING OFF IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING COMPLEX. 
          SO I HAVE ONE PERSON IN, UM, PLANNING WHEN WE GET THOSE EMAILS, IF NO ONE ADDRESSES IT WITHIN 24 HOURS, SHE'S HOUNDING SOMEONE TILL THEY RESPOND. 
          SO WE RESPOND IN 24 HOURS. 
          THIS IS RECENT. 
          UM, SO THIS MONTH IT'S MERRILY WE'RE GONNA ROTATE BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE. 
          IT'S NOT, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YOUR MATRIX DOESN'T SAY THAT. 
          IT'S NEW . 
          YEAH, IT'S NEW. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD. 
          GOOD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD. 
          PARDON? UH, JASON? YEAH. 
          AND THEN, UM, IN PERMITS, IT'S, UM, ANGELICA, AND THOSE ARE REAL PEOPLE. 
          . 
          I LIKE ALBERT. 
          YEAH. 
          NO. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. 
          NO, ALBERT. 
          WHEN DID THAT START? UM, PROBABLY A WEEK AGO. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NUMBER 13. 
          OKAY. 
          THE CITY CURRENTLY DEFAULTS TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S ENGINEERING STANDARDS WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS, WHICH, WHICH CAN BE CONFUSING TO DEVELOPERS. 
          UM, ONE OF OUR RECENT UPDATES, UM, TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE KIND OF ESTABLISHED WHICH TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL WE'RE USING. 
          AND I KNOW EMILY'S TEAM IS WORKING ON A SET OF OUR OWN STANDARDS. 
          IT'S JUST THAT TAKES TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NUMBER 14. 
          AND THEN 14. 
          THERE'S NO MASTER CHECKLIST OF REQUIREMENTS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF INSPECTIONS. 
          AND WE DO HAVE CHECKLISTS AVAILABLE ONLINE FOR THE PUBLIC FOR INSPECTION AND CLOSEOUT PROCESSES. 
          I ALSO COULDN'T FIND THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW DO I FIND THAT? UM, IT SHOULD BE ON THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PAGE FOR THE CLOSEOUT PROCESS MAYBE. 
          AND THEN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS A CLOSEOUT, I'M SORRY. 
          SORRY. 
          MAYBE Y'ALL COULD EMAIL THOSE LINKS TO COUNCIL LATER. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THEN NUMBER 
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15, THE CITY IS OFTEN CHALLENGED TO MANAGE STAFF WORKLOADS AND, UM, WE HAVE BEEN USING THIRD PARTY REVIEWERS AND, AND INSPECTORS TO KIND OF HELP US FILL IN WHEN WE HAVE A NEED. 
          UM, ON THAT ONE, IT HAS ESTABLISHED A POLICY AND PROCEDURE FOR THE USE OF THIRD PARTY FIRMS, INCLUDING PROCESSES FOR COMMUNICATION WITH STAFF AND CUSTOMERS. 
          DO WE HAVE THAT? AWESOME. 
          AND WE REVIEW THEIR WORK PERIODICALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING THE SAME WORK WE ARE AND WE'RE CONSISTENT. 
          I KNOW IN PLANNING AND PERMITTING WE DO. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE ENGINEERING, THEY MEET WITH THEIR THIRD PARTY REVIEWERS. 
          YEAH. 
          FANTASTIC. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAD. 
          COUNSEL. 
          DID YOU ALL HAVE ANYTHING ON ANY OF THAT PART? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU MAY KEEP GOING. 
          AWESOME. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, JULY 19TH, WE HELD, UM, A DEVELOPER FORUM, UM, IN THIS FORUM WE HAD 15 PEOPLE PARTICIPATE. 
          UM, AND WE HAD SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS MAKE PRESENTATIONS. 
          UM, OUR AGENDA IS LISTED, UH, IN THE PACKET AND, UM, ON THE SCREEN, UM, DURING THE FORUM, WE GAVE OUR PRESENTATION AND THEN OFFERED THE DEVELOPERS A CHANCE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UM, THE QUESTIONS WE HAD, UM, REVOLVED AROUND THE TURFS AND WHAT THE STATUS WAS. 
          AND, UM, WE HAD ONE ASKED SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, HIS PROJECT AND THERE WERE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          WE DID SEND OUT A SURVEY, THE SURVEYS ON THE SCREEN TO THE, THE RIGHT. 
          UM, SO FAR WE'VE GOTTEN THREE RESPONSES. 
          THEY ALL WERE POSITIVE SOMEONE DIDN'T LIKE SUBWAY, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UM, THEY WERE VERY HAPPY WITH IT. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S GOOD. 
          UM, SO ONCE WE GET MORE FEEDBACK FROM THAT SURVEY, WE'LL SHARE IT WITH THE, THE COUNCIL, BUT IT WAS JUST SENT OUT, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS KIND OF FUN. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO CREATED, UM, A DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SURVEY. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS AFTER YOU HAVE A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, UM, WE'RE SENDING OUT A SERIES OF QUESTIONS TO MAKE SURE THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS ARE STILL WORKING AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GETTING THE INFORMATION THAT THEY, THEY NEED TO COMPLETE THEIR PROJECT. 
          UM, WE DON'T RECEIVE A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON THAT, SO WE THOUGHT IT'D BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT CUSTOMERS ARE EXPERIENCING. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO RECENTLY PUBLISHED A SURVEY ON THE DEVELOPMENT HUB. 
          UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED I THINK, ONE RESPONSE ON THE DEVELOPMENT HUB, AND I THINK IT WAS TWO ON PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS. 
          BUT ONCE WE GET, UM, MORE INFORMATION, I'M GONNA MAKE THAT PART OF THE MONTHLY REPORT WHERE I GIVE Y'ALL THE, THE METRICS FROM THE SURVEY SO YOU CAN KNOW HOW IT'S GOING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WHEN DID THOSE LAUNCH? UH, LAST, WAS IT LAST WEEK OR THIS WEEK? IT'S VERY RECENT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WITH THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, WE DIDN'T JUST PUT THAT ON THE WEBSITE. 
          SO WHEN YOU GET YOUR PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING NOTES, WE SEND IT TO YOU. 
          SO WE MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY ATTENDED THE MEETING. 
          AND THEN WITH THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT HUB, THAT ONE IS ON THE HUB PAGE. 
          AND THEN AS UM, LAURA ACCEPTS APPLICATIONS, SHE'S SENDING IT OUT TO PEOPLE THAT SHE KNOWS ARE USING THE HUB IN CASE THEY DON'T SEE IT ON THE HUB PAGE. 
          AND THEN THE FORUM WEBSITE ONLY WENT TO THE FORUM, UH, PARTICIPANTS. 
          AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE THE NEXT DEVELOPER FORUM, UM, WE WANT TO, UH, SEND A NEW SURVEY FOR THAT SPECIFIC FORUM. 
          WE WANT TROLLS TO JUST  THE OKAY. 
          UM, I THINK YOU CAN DO LIKE PERSONALIZED LINKS THAT JUST WORK ONE TIME FOR THAT'S CORRECT. 
          ANYONE? YEAH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, WHEN BARRY DUNN HAD TALKED TO US ABOUT THE SURVEYS, I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE JUST A SURVEY ABOUT HOW IS YOUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, LIKE A WHOLE THING. 
          SO, BUT WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE GONNA BE SENDING THEM OUT AT DIFFERENT STEPS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH DIFFERENT TYPES OF SURVEYS TOO. 
          THIS ISN'T IT, THIS IS JUST THE, THE BEGINNING OF THE SURVEYS. 
          SO WE PICKED PROCESSES THAT, UM, WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR A WHILE THAT STAFF, UM, WE'RE KIND OF IN A ROUTINE THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO, TO UPDATE AND THEN WE'RE GONNA SLOWLY WORK THROUGH APPLICATION PROCESS SURVEYS, BUT WE WANNA MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE SPECIALIZED. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPENING. 
          SO HOW MANY SURVEYS DO YOU THINK AN APPLICANT WOULD GO THROUGH DOING A PROJECT? UM, I DON'T KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I, I CAN SAY THAT FOR A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, THEY DON'T ALWAYS SUBMIT PLANS. 
          UM, FOR A DEVELOPER FORM, THEY'RE NOT SUBMITTING PLANS. 
          SO WE'RE TOUCHING PEOPLE THAT DON'T DO EVERY STEP OF THE PROCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF WE DID A SURVEY FOR BUILDING PERMITS, THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY DO A SITE DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO IT'S JUST DIFFERENT STAGES SURVEY BASED ON THE APPLICATION TYPE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, SO PART OF THE BENEFIT WOULD BE IF YOU HAD SOMEONE THAT WAS A BROKER THAT NEVER ACTUALLY DOES DEVELOPMENT BUT COMPLAINS TO Y'ALL ABOUT OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, BUT THEY'VE NEVER SUBMITTED THROUGH IT OR WORKED IN IT, ACTUALLY THAT WOULD BE KIND OF SORTED OUT AS, UM, AN OUTLIER. 
          'CAUSE I THINK IT'S ONLY REALLY FAIR IF YOU HAVE THOSE THAT 
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ARE IN THE PROCESS VERSUS JUST ANECDOTAL. 
          I HEARD THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE SOMETHING. 
          RIGHT. 
          WELL, IT'S GOT ON HERE. 
          YOUR ROLE OWNER, DEVELOPER AGENT, OTHER. 
          SO, SO, I MEAN, THIS IS GOING BACK A LITTLE BIT, BUT TO P AND Z DAYS, BUT A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK WE WOULD GET NEGATIVE FEEDBACK WAS, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE TURN THAT INTO THE CITY AND WE DON'T KNOW. 
          AND THEN YOU COME TO FIND OUT IT'S BEEN SITTING ON AN, YOU KNOW, UH, NOT A CITY DESK MM-HMM. 
           FOR WEEKS, UM, USING THE HUB AND HAVING EVERYBODY HAVE ACCESS. 
          HAVE YOU SEEN THOSE TYPES OF COMPLAINTS DROP? 'CAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS NOW WHERE THE PLANS ARE, SO YOU CAN'T HIDE FROM 'EM ANYMORE. 
          WE'VE SEEN, UM, MORE AWARENESS FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT USED TO NOT REALLY KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 
          'CAUSE NOW THEY CAN HAVE AN ACCOUNT AND THEY CAN LOG ON AND THEY CAN SEE WHAT THEIR CONSULTANT DID AND WHAT THE CITY DID. 
          SO I HAVE SEEN AN IMPROVEMENT THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WE STILL HAVE SOME THAT HAVEN'T MADE IT OVER TO THE HUB YET, RIGHT. 
          THAT STARTED BEFORE? NOPE. 
          ANYONE THAT WAS BEFORE. 
          THEY'VE ALL BEEN PUT IN THE HUB. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, WE, WE DID SOME DATA ENTRY. 
          WE NEED TO TALK LATER ABOUT A STORY THAT'S GOING ON. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          THAT SOUNDS GOOD. 
          I, I DID SKIP OVER SOMETHING IN THE DEVELOPER FORUM. 
          WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE FREQUENCY. 
          UM, SO THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT AS WELL AS HOW WE HOST THE FORUM. 
          UM, WHEN I SCHEDULED IT AND REACHED OUT TO, UM, DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS, I GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK ABOUT DESIRE TO DO IT AS A TEAMS MEETING 'CAUSE THEY'RE FROM OUT OF TOWN. 
          UM, SO THEY DIDN'T WANNA COME INTO LEANDER TO SIT AT A TABLE WITH ME. 
          UM, SOMETHING WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IS MAYBE DOING, UM, TWO A YEAR AND DO ONE IN PERSON AND ONE THROUGH TEAMS. UM, SO WE COULD REACH BOTH GROUPS, BUT I JUST WANNA GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE ON THE FORUM. 
          WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ON FREQUENCY? I'M NOT SURE ON FREQUENCY. 
          I'D SAY AT THE BARE, YOU KNOW, I, I I WOULD SAY AT THE MAXIMUM IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, QUARTERLY. 
          SO A QUARTERLY TO BUY AMONGST TWO, I THINK TWO A YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO SOMEWHERE IN THERE. 
          AND I THINK HAVING AN OPTION LIKE THAT WHERE THERE'S A, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HAVE BOTH. 
          I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO NOT DO THE HYBRID 'CAUSE IT'S REALLY HARD, UM, WITH RECORDING AND THEN HAVING THEM INTERACT. 
          IT'S AWKWARD. 
          SO WHAT'S THE, UM, AND, AND MIND YOU, I HATE TEAMS CALL. 
          I HATE ZOOM, I HATE ALL OF IT. 
          HOWEVER, THERE IS A SPOT FOR IT. 
          SO IS, WOULD IT, WHAT WOULD PREVENT YOU FROM WANTING TO DO IT ALL FROM A VIRTUAL STANDPOINT? NOTHING. 
          IT'S JUST HOW Y'ALL WOULD WANNA DO IT. 
          YEAH. 
          I GUESS I WOULD LEAD THAT TO YOU. 
          IS LEADING THAT IS IT, IF IT'S EASIER AND YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'LL REACH MORE PEOPLE, UM, DOING IT AS A COMPLETELY VIRTUAL THING, THEN GO FOR IT. 
          IF YOU WOULD PREFER TO HAVE PEOPLE AROUND THE TABLE, THEN DO THAT TOO. 
          I, I DON'T HAVE A FEELING EITHER WAY. 
          I THINK IT'S WHAT WORKS BETTER. 
          MY BIGGER THING IS GETTING THE INFORMATION AND BEING ABLE TO REACH THE PEOPLE AND CREATING EFFICIENCIES WITHIN THE, YOUR DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THAT'S YOUR CALL. 
          AND MAYBE IF WE DID IT, UM, VIRTUALLY AND GOT FEEDBACK TO SEE HOW THEY FELT ABOUT IT, AND THEN WE COULD ALWAYS PIVOT. 
          AND THEN MIKE WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING, , WE, WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE, UM, IT CAN HAVE A LIFE BEYOND THE MEETING DATE. 
          WE CAN, WE CAN RECORD THAT PRESENTATION. 
          WE CAN SHARE IT WITH OTHERS WHO WOULDN'T HAVE SEEN IT AT THE TIME. 
          UM, THE, THE DRAWBACK MIGHT BE, UH, THAT IT WOULD FREEZE SOME, UH, REAL TIME ENGAGEMENT. 
          SO MAYBE DEVELOPERS OR ANYONE PARTICIPATING WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE ASKING THE QUESTION AS PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT MAY COME BACK LATER COMPLETING THE SURVEY. 
          SO WE MIGHT MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS WITH HOW WE ENGAGE THEM AFTERWARD AND SAY, WELL, WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? OR WHAT QUESTION DID YOU NOT ASK THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK? SO TAKING THOSE THINGS OFFLINE MAY STILL GENERATE MORE ENGAGEMENT. 
          BUT THE BIGGEST BENEFIT IS IF WE WERE RECORDING THAT VIRTUAL, UH, MEETING IT, IT'S GONNA HAVE A LIFE BEYOND THAT PARTICULAR DATE. 
          AND THAT'LL BE HELPFUL. 
          OR MAYBE HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS THAT'S AVAILABLE DURING THE MEETING. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO EMAIL A QUESTION IN, UM, THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO, AND THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO MAYBE DO QUITE SO MUCH FOLLOW UP. 
          AND WE HAVE, WE WOULD HAVE A, OF COURSE TEAMS HAS A CHAT FEATURE. 
          UM, IF WE WERE RECORDING IT, THAT'S FOR THE WHOLE GROUP. 
          I MEAN, I GUESS YOU CAN CHAT TO ONE MESSAGE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WHATEVER IS EASIER. 
          I'M INVOLVED IN A LOT OF GROUPS AND POST COVID, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT KEEPS COMING UP ABOUT MEETINGS. 
          AND THE CONSENSUS I'VE SEEN ON ALL OF THEM SEEMS TO BE A MIX OF BOTH, WHERE YOU HAVE ABOUT HALF YOUR MEETINGS IN PERSON, BECAUSE PEOPLE STILL WANT THAT IN PERSON CONNECTION. 
          THEY WANNA BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU AFTER THE MEETING OR JUST SEE YOU FACE TO FACE AND CONNECT. 
          BUT THEN HALF OF THEM VIRTUAL BECAUSE WE'RE ALL BUSY AND NOBODY WANTS TO GET IN AND DRIVE DOWN HERE AND TRY TO WORK WITH PARKING, YOU KNOW, OR, OR WHATEVER IT IS. 
          UM, SO I THINK, I THINK YOU'LL GET REALLY GOOD ENGAGEMENT ON BOTH, BUT IT 
          [04:25:01]
WON'T NECESSARILY BE THE SAME PEOPLE. 
          UM, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO DO BOTH AND PLAN IT THAT WAY. 
          YES. 
          MS. Y'ALL CAN BLAME ME FOR THIS ROUND. 
          WHERE AND HOW MANY DID WE HAVE PARTICIPATE THE FIRST TIME WHEN IT WAS VIRTUAL? THE PRIOR, THE PRIOR ONE, WE DIDN'T DO ONE VIRTUAL, WE PARTICIPATED IN THE CHAMBERS SUMMIT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I THOUGHT WE HAD ONE BEFORE THAT WHERE Y'ALL TRIED TO DO A VIRTUAL. 
          YEAH, WE DIDN'T. 
          AND, AND I THINK THE THOUGHT WAS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE ENGAGED IN SUBMITTING AND DROPPING OFF PLANS THAT WE WERE HERE PHYSICALLY, ESPECIALLY POST COVID. 
          AND THEN, BUT THE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF ONGOING, I THINK AS MUCH WITHOUT OVERKILL ON THE OUTREACH. 
          SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD NECESSARILY BE BAD TO DO, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S EVERY 90 DAYS TO KEEP THE ENGAGEMENT GOING. 
          UM, MAYBE YOU DO VIRTUAL IN PERSON VIRTUAL, BUT I THINK IT'S, WE'VE MADE THESE CHANGES. 
          I THINK CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT ON HOW THE PROCESS WORKS IS, IS ESSENTIAL. 
          'CAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT SIMPLE STUFF. 
          AND IF SOMEONE HASN'T DONE IT A LOT OR THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT HERE, WE HAVE TO CONTINUALLY EDUCATE. 
          SO NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE STREAMLINE THE PROCESS. 
          DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR US, MS. GRIFFIN? UM, I, I HAD OUR, THIS IS THE, THE TIMELINE IN YOUR PACKET OF WHAT'S HAPPENED DATE. 
          AND THEN, UM, THESE ARE THE NEXT THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP. 
          SO, UM, OUR NEXT ITEM IS LAUNCHING THE COMMUNO SOFTWARE, WHICH IS THE GUIDES. 
          AND WITH THAT WE'LL COME THE, UM, THE TOOLKITS AND THE GUIDES GONNA FOCUS ON CHANGE OF TENANT. 
          BUT ONCE WE GET THAT PROCESS WORKED OUT, WE CAN DO A GUIDE FOR ANOTHER PROCESS. 
          SO IF THERE'S ANOTHER ONE WE SEE A NEED, A LOT OF, UH, RESIDENTIAL PERMITS, LIKE WHEN THEY'RE GETTING A HOME EDITION OR SHED, THOSE ARE HARD 'CAUSE IT'S USUALLY THE HOMEOWNER DOING IT. 
          SO THAT'D PROBABLY BE OUR NEXT ONE TO WORK THROUGH. 
          UM, CITY UP, UH, WEBSITE UPDATES COMING. 
          UM, AND THEN EMILY'S TEAM'S STILL WORKING ON THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS AND WE ARE LOOKING AT A, A WELL CHECK OF THE DEVELOPMENT HUB, AND THAT'S DEPENDENT ON THE BUDGET. 
          UM, WE HAD INCLUDED TYLER ASSIST IN OUR PROPOSAL AND IT MADE IT TO THE SUPPLEMENTS. 
          SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT THAT'LL HELP US WITH, UM, OUR, OUR METRICS AND MAKING UPDATES TO THE HUB BECAUSE WE WE'RE JUST LEARNING IT AND TRYING TO MAKE THINGS WORK. 
          AND THIS WOULD BE, UM, KIND OF A SUPPORT FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING SO WE DON'T BREAK ANYTHING. 
          UM, AND THEN I THINK THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT DOING A FOLLOW UP REVIEW WITH BARRY DUNN OF OUR, OUR PROCESS. 
          AND THE CAMINO SOFTWARE IS SUPPOSED TO BE NEXT MONTH, AUGUST. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. 
          UM, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO OVER IT, I THINK NEXT WEEK AND THEN EXCELLENT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNSEL, ANYTHING FURTHER? ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          MOVE 
          [8. City website update]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CITY WEBSITE. 
          UPDATE WITH CHIEF OF STAFF. 
          NEW GIMME JUST A SECOND. 
          COUNSEL, PULL THIS UP. 
          THIS IS THE LAST ONE I WANNA SAY. 
          I HOPPED ON OUR WEBSITE LAST NIGHT AND USED OUR SEARCH. 
          AND FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, IT WORKED . 
          IT DIDN'T GIVE ME BACK LIKE, GIBBERISH RESULTS. 
          I WAS FINDING SOME OF THE THINGS I WAS LOOKING FOR. 
          I WAS LIKE'S, THAT'S A WIN. 
          THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. 
          THEY'VE DONE SOME UPDATES. 
          THAT'S . 
          DID YOU EVER USE OUR SEARCH BEFORE? I DUNNO IF I DID. 
          SO, UM, WE ARE, WE ARE ENGAGED WITH CIVIC PLUS RIGHT NOW, BUILDING A NEW ENTIRELY NEW WEBSITE, UM, WHICH, UH, IS NOT NEW TO CIVIC PLUS, BUT CERTAINLY NEW TO US. 
          OUR EXISTING PLATFORM IS, IS WHAT I WOULD CALL IN CRITICAL STAGE. 
          IT'S, IT NEEDS SO MANY UPGRADES, IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY. 
          BUT, UM, SO I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE ARE IMPLEMENTING NOT JUST WHAT YOU WOULD CALL THE CITY WEBSITE. 
          UM, CIVIC PLUS WILL CALL THAT A, A PARTICULAR PRODUCT CALLED CIVIC ENGAGE. 
          WE'RE ALSO, UM, WORKING, UH, WITH THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE TO, UM, UPGRADE OUR AGENDA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WHICH IS, RIGHT NOW IT'S A THIRD PARTY SYSTEM SEPARATE FROM OUR WEBSITE. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA INTEGRATE THAT UNDER THE CIVIC PLUS UMBRELLA. 
          WE'RE ALSO GOING TO INTEGRATE, UM, UH, OUR CODE ORDINANCES. 
          UH, MUNI CODE IS ANOTHER, AGAIN, CIVIC PLUS IS BUYING UP A LOT OF THESE OTHER COMPANIES, UM, THAT PROVIDE GOVERNMENT WEB SERVICES. 
          SO THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF PIECES. 
          WHEN WE SAY WE'RE GONNA UPGRADE THE CITY WEBSITE, WE'RE UPGRADING MANY, MANY OF THE COMPONENTS THAT, UH, YOU MIGHT FIND ON THE CITY WEBSITE, BUT ACTUALLY ARE PROVIDED FROM, UH, FROM OTHER SOURCES. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO BRING A LOT OF THOSE THINGS UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA. 
          UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I INCLUDED HERE IN OUR, UH, 
          [04:30:01]
JUST INITIAL EXECUTIVE SUMMARY ARE THE DELIVERABLES THAT ARE PART OF THIS WEBSITE PROJECT. 
          UM, CIVIC ENGAGE OBVIOUSLY IS DOING THE MAJOR DESIGN OVERHAUL, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE PARTICIPATING IN MIGRATING THE CONTENT. 
          WE'RE ALSO GOING TO GET, UH, BLOCKS OF TRAINING FOR STAFF ON HOW TO UTILIZE THE CONTENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST WHAT THE PUBLIC SEES, IT'S ON THE BACKEND, HOW STAFF USES THIS TO ACTUALLY, UH, INSERT CONTENT, MANAGE FILES, UH, AND, AND MAINTAIN WHAT, WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER FRESH MATERIAL FOR ANYONE THAT GOES ONLINE TO FIND OUT ABOUT CITY SERVICES. 
          UM, YOU SEE THEIR ONE-TIME PREMIUM DEPARTMENT HEADER, WE'VE KIND OF PARKED THAT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY. 
          THEY, THEY OPERATE UNDER A WORDPRESS PLATFORM, AGAIN, TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM OUR EXISTING CITY WEBSITE. 
          EVEN A SEPARATE U R L THEY ENTER BUSINESS.COM. 
          WE DO WANNA BRING SOME OF THAT IN-HOUSE, EVEN IF ULTIMATELY WE DO HAVE OR MAINTAIN AN, AN ENTIRELY INDEPENDENT PRESENCE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR MANY IMPORTANT REASONS, WE'RE AT LEAST BRINGING THAT, UH, UNDER THE UMBRELLA AND, AND PROVIDING SOME CONSISTENCY WITH OTHER CITY CONTENT. 
          SO THAT'S GONNA BE AN IMPROVEMENT. 
          THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE EXPAND, UH, OVER TIME WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING OFF, UH, SMALL BITES OF THIS TO SEE, UM, HOW WE IMPLEMENT IT INTO A NEW DESIGN, A NEW PLATFORM. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL HIGHLIGHT TOO IS, UH, THREE YEAR REDESIGN ULTIMATE, ULTIMATE IS JUST THE, THE VERSION OF THE SERVICE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH OUT OF THIS REDESIGN AS WE CAN, BUT, UH, IN THIS INITIAL, INITIAL STAGE OF WORKING WITH CIVIC PLUS TO, TO CREATE A NEW WEBSITE, NEW PAGES, NEW CONTENT, NEW FLOWS, NEW USER INTERACTION, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO FIX THE, A LOT OF THE BROKEN THINGS IN THIS, UH, IN THIS REDESIGN, WHAT WE HAVE THE OPTION TO DO IN THREE YEARS, OUR CONTRACT IS, IS UP TO FIVE YEARS. 
          WHAT WE CAN DO IN THREE YEARS IS, UM, MAKE THOSE REAL DESIGN IMPROVEMENTS BASED ON FEEDBACK. 
          SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS, UM, FIX A LOT OF THE THINGS AND INSERT A LOT OF THE TOOLS THAT PEOPLE EXPECT TO SEE ON OUR WEBSITE AND UTILIZE THAT REDESIGN OPPORTUNITY MAYBE TO, TO INTEGRATE SOME OF THE WANTS WHEN RIGHT NOW WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO, TO, UH, TO GET SOME OF THE NEEDS IN PLACE. 
          UM, CIVIC SEND, I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT REAL QUICKLY, IS THE NEWSLETTER TOOL. 
          UM, IT'S AN ENHANCEMENT FOR OUR WEBSITE PACKAGE. 
          THAT, AND I'LL, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET THAT PROVIDES SPECIFIC NEWSLETTER, UM, AUDIENCES AND A NOTIFICATION TOOL THAT INTEGRATES WITH THE WEBSITE THAT, UM, ALLOWS, UM, USERS ON A WEBSITE TO OPT INTO VARIOUS COMMUNICATIONS. 
          AGAIN, A LOT OF THIS WILL BE DRIVEN BY OUR, OUR P I O TEAM AND MYSELF, UM, WITH DEPARTMENT SUPPORT. 
          ONCE WE ESTABLISH SOME OF THESE NEWSLETTER, UM, MESSAGING, UM, PIECES, THEN WE'LL START ADDING THOSE NEWSLETTER COMPONENTS SO THAT WE CAN CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS CONSISTENT AND PREDICTABLE. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS, AS AN EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE THINGS CAN BE, UM, HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION NEWSLETTERS. 
          SO LINDY IS DOING A GREAT JOB AS OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MANAGER NOW OF SENDING OUT EMAILS TO OUR LIST OF COMMUNITY MANAGERS. 
          THE, THE REALLY THE THIRD PARTIES THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO HANDLE ALL OF THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT ISSUES RELATED TO HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS, THE ESTABLISHED ONES. 
          AND ON OUR LIST, SHE'S ALSO GOT, UM, SPECIFIC HOMEOWNERS THAT SORT OF SERVE, UH, UNOFFICIALLY AS REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE ESTABLISHED HOAS. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE ONE WE WOULD VERY QUICKLY STAND UP ONCE THAT CIVIC SEND, UM, SERVICE HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED WITH OUR WEBSITE TO START ROLLING WITH REGULAR NEWSLETTER MESSAGING AND ENGAGING DEPARTMENTS AS PART OF THAT PROCESS TOO. 
          UM, CIVIC CLERK PREMIUM CONFIGURATION, THAT'S SIMPLY OUR, OUR, UH, AGENDAS AND MEETINGS, UH, PORTION. 
          CURRENTLY WE USE, UH, AGENDA QUICK. 
          IT'S WHAT YOU SEE ONLINE WITH OUR MEETING AGENDAS AND PACKETS AND EVERYTHING. 
          THIS IS A, A MORE ROBUST VERSION OF THAT SERVICE. 
          BUT OUR GOAL IS TAKING ALL THESE COMPONENTS AND WE'RE GONNA LAUNCH THEM AT THE SAME TIME SO THAT IT'S VIEWED AS ONE UPGRADE AND WE'RE NOT DOING THAT IN PIECES. 
          IT'S ALSO GONNA HELP WITH, UM, SPEEDING UP THE IMPLEMENTATION IN A SENSE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, UH, CHANGING COURSE MIDSTREAM. 
          UM, SO WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT PAGE. 
          AND I WANTED TO SHOW YOU WHAT THAT, UM, INITIAL DESIGN LOOKS LIKE. 
          AND AGAIN, UM, OUR DIRECTORS ARE SEEING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME TOO, BECAUSE WE'VE ACTUALLY ASKED, UH, CIVIC PLUS WE ASKED THEM A COUPLE WEEKS AGO TO RAMP UP, UM, SOMETHING VISUAL FOR US. 
          UM, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MEET ACTUALLY AT THE END OF NEXT WEEK TO GO OVER SOME OF THIS STUFF. 
          BUT, BUT WE SAID WE'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING NOW, GIVE COUNCIL, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT, WHAT IT IS YOU'RE DOING. 
          AND AT THE END OF YOUR, UH, A PACKET, YOU'LL SEE A TIMELINE OF, OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT PIECES THAT ARE PART OF THIS PROJECT. 
          RIGHT NOW, YOU WOULD CONSIDER IT 26% COMPLETE. 
          THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS, BUT A LOT OF THE STEPS ARE GONNA HAPPEN FAST AND FURIOUS NOW THAT WE'VE GOT SOME OF 
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THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THIS NEW WEBSITE PLATFORM IN PLACE. 
          UM, SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE, AND I'LL, I'LL GO TO A MORE INTERACTIVE VERSION. 
          THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT, UM, THEY'VE SET UP FOR US AS SORT OF A, A SANDBOX OR A VISUAL SO THAT I CAN FACILITATE SOME OF OUR DISCUSSION TODAY. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS, UM, AND YOU MAY NOT NOTICE IF, IF YOU'RE NOT ON A LOT OF WEBSITES, THIS IS, UH, AN IMPROVEMENT FOR ACCESSIBILITY. 
          UM, A LOT OF THE, THE COLORS, THE FONTS, THE PLACEMENT OF BUTTONS, THE HOW MENUS WERE ORGANIZED AND STRUCTURED, UM, I WON'T BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU IN THIS EXAMPLE, BUT COMPATIBILITY WITH VARIOUS, UH, MEDIA DEVICES, ALL OF THOSE ARE ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS THAT, THAT MEET CERTAIN FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS. 
          CURRENT WEBSITE DOESN'T NECESSARILY DO THAT, BUT THIS, UH, THIS NEW PLATFORM, CIVIC PLUS IS, IS PART OF THEIR PACKAGE AND WHAT THEY PROVIDE, IT DOES MEET CERTAIN STANDARDS FOR ALL KINDS OF ACCESSIBILITY. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT NEWS ITEMS AND INTEGRATION WITH OUR CALENDAR. 
          UM, WE'VE HAD SOME CHALLENGES WITH OUR CALENDAR CONTENT. 
          WE KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THAT USERS, WHEN THEY GO TO OUR WEBSITE, THEY WANT TO START TRACKING MEETINGS AND SPECIAL EVENTS AND CONTENT. 
          THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SORT OF HIGHLIGHTED IN OUR HOMEPAGE. 
          UM, AND LET ME GO TO A SUBPAGE HERE. 
          SO WILL THAT CALENDAR HAVE MEETINGS BUT ALSO ACTIVITIES FROM PARKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? YES. 
          UH, ONE AND EVERYTHING. 
          I MEAN, UH, SOME OF THE, AND I'LL, I'LL USE THE LIBRARY AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE THEY, THEY DO A LOT MORE OF THE MICRO ACTIVITIES THAT, THAT ARE CONFINED TO THEIR, THEIR LIBRARY SPACE. 
          BUT THEY CAN DO ANYWHERE FROM 40 TO 50 DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES IN A, IN A GIVEN MONTH. 
          IF WE THROW ALL THAT ON THE CALENDAR, UM, IT'LL PUSH DOWN ALL THE OTHER CONTENT ON OUR CURRENT CALENDAR. 
          YOU MIGHT NOT SEE A, A CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITH SOME OF THESE EVENTS THAT ARE POSTED. 
          SO THIS WILL GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY TO FILTER THOSE ON AN INITIAL VIEW. 
          WHEN SOMEONE COMES TO OUR HOMEPAGE, IF THEY WANTED TO DRILL DOWN AND LOOK AT LIBRARY ONLY EVENTS, THEY COULD DO THAT. 
          EVEN THOUGH THAT FILTER CAPABILITY IS ON OUR CURRENT PLATFORM, WE DON'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO, TO PUSH THOSE VIEWS TO THE FIRST, UH, PERSON THAT COMES TO OUR SITE. 
          SO WE WANNA, UH, WE WANTED SOME ADDITIONAL CAPABILITIES THERE AND CIVIC PLUS IS, IS ABLE TO DO THAT FOR US. 
          THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT A, AN INTERNAL PAGE WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          AND I WANT TO, UM, KIND OF HIGHLIGHT WHAT THE DIFFERENCES HERE. 
          SO SOME OF THIS IMAGERY THAT WOULD APPEAR IN THE BACKGROUND AND SOME OF THESE, UH, THIS UPPER MENU WOULD APPEAR THE SAME ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ANY SUB PAGE. 
          BUT, UH, GOING BACK TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND, AND SOME THINGS WE WANT TO FOCUS ON, UH, WHAT WE DID PURCHASE INITIALLY IS A, AS A SPECIAL DEPARTMENT HEADER, AND WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF TARGETED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT AND WE'LL BE GETTING WITH THEM OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. 
          THAT WOULD BE A MORE CUSTOM PRESENCE. 
          SO IF WE WERE TARGETING SITE SELECTORS OR, OR POTENTIAL BUSINESS PROSPECTS, WE COULD REALLY ADJUST THE ENTIRE, UH, LOOK AND FEEL OF THE WEBSITE WHERE WE'RE LIMITED TO DO THAT, TO TRY AND MAINTAIN SOME CONSISTENCY. 
          THEY WOULD DO SOME ADDITIONAL DESIGN WORK TO GIVE US THAT FLEXIBILITY. 
          WE COULD EXPAND THAT LATER ON FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          BUT WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH ONE FOR NOW AND SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, SO THE OCTOBER 27TH, 2023 DELIVERABLE DATE, UM, IS THAT FOR THEM HAVING IT ALL PRETTY TO US TO WORK WITH? OR IS THAT ALSO INCLUDING OUR CONTENT CREATION OF WHAT WE WANNA PUT ON OUR DIFFERENT STAFF AND, AND DEPARTMENT WEBSITES? SO THAT WOULD BE MIGRATING ALL OF THE, AND, AND I THINK AT THE, EITHER THE END OF THIS COMING WEEK, AUGUST 3RD, OR MAYBE THE FIRST PART OF THE NEXT WEEK, THAT IS OUR CONTENT MIGRATION DEADLINE. 
          ALL THAT MEANS IS THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THE SNAPSHOT OF OUR EXISTING WEBSITE AND PULL THAT DATA OKAY. 
          ONTO THE NEW SITE. 
          UM, IT'S OUR GONNA BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND OUR PI TEAM, P I O TEAM KNOWS THIS. 
          AND, UM, WE WILL GET A, A MUCH FIRMER DATE SO THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS AS WELL. 
          IT'LL BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY THEN TO MANAGE WHAT NEW CONTENT'S GOING ON THE SITE. 
          SO WHEN WE DO IMPLEMENT IT, UM, WE'LL HAVE FRESH CONTENT. 
          BUT THAT IS THE LAUNCH DATE. 
          THAT IS THE, THE OKAY. 
          IT'S PUBLIC. 
          IT MIGHT EVEN COME EARLIER THAN THAT. 
          THAT WAS MORE OF A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT MAY BE MID-OCTOBER, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE LAUNCH DATE WHERE THIS, THIS SITE IS, IS UP AND GOING FOR EVERYBODY. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS, WHAT IS THE CADENCE OF OUR MEETINGS WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON TRACK? OUR CADENCE? MM-HMM. 
          , I'D SAY YEAH, EVERY, EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS. 
          UM, THEY'RE GIVING US SOME UPDATES, BUT THE LARGE BULK AND, AND LET ME GO TO THE TIME POINT TIMELINE REAL QUICK. 
          SO THE LARGE BULK HAS BEEN THEM, AND YOU'LL SEE THE, THE CONTENT STREAM HERE. 
          IT'S BEEN THEM WORKING ON THE DESIGN FRAMEWORK. 
          UM, SO THERE HASN'T BEEN MUCH ON OUR END OTHER THAN JUST SAYING, YES, THESE ARE, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING FOR AS FAR AS A, A LAYOUT IMPROVEMENT. 
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SOME OF THE FEATURES WE WANT TO ESTABLISH ON THE HOMEPAGE, THEY'VE PROVIDED US MOOD BOARDS, WE PROVIDED THEM OUR LOGO AND, AND SOME OTHER CONTENT AND THEY PULLED. 
          SO MOST OF THAT HAS BEEN ON THEIR END. 
          SO MEETING EVERY COUPLE WEEKS, WE'LL PROBABLY RAMP UP TO A WEEKLY OR EVEN BI-WEEKLY, UH, SESSION WITH THEM. 
          ANY MEETING BOARD. 
          WHAT IS A, YOU SAY WE'VE HAD SO FAR, WHAT IS THE MOOD BOARD?  MOOD BOARD? I'M HERE. 
          IT'S LIKE PINTEREST. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF YOU, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THIS WEBSITE AND TAKE OUT ALL THE TEXT AND JUST LOOK AT THE BLOCKS, YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE A HEADER BLOCK AT THE TOP, YOU'VE GOT A BANNER IMAGE. 
          UM, BELOW THAT YOU'VE GOT THREE SECTORS OF CONTENT. 
          THE MOOD BOARD ASSIGN ESSENTIALLY THOSE SECTORS AND SAYS IS WHERE IS IT GONNA GO? UH, HOW DO WE WANT THE SITE TO BE LAID OUT? HOW DOES IT, UM, HOW DOES IT INTERACT WITH THE USER WHEN THERE'S A DIFFERENT DEVICE OR WHEN THEY'RE TRANSFERRING FROM ONE PAGE OR ONE LINK TO ANOTHER? VERY GENERIC, BUT IT GIVES THEM BASICALLY A ROADMAP TO HOW TO BUILD A NEW DESIGN. 
          AND ABOUT HOW MANY MEETINGS DO YOU THINK WE'VE HAD THEN WITH THEM? UM, I'D SAY ABOUT FIVE OR SIX SINCE WE STARTED. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT EMAIL COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH, UM, HAS SUPPLEMENTED FOR THAT TOO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO ONE THING I'LL CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION, THERE'S NOTHING TO LOOK AT OTHER THAN, UH, IT BEING A TOPIC ON THE MAIN MENU, BUT THE, HOW DO I, HOW DO I, UM, OPEN A BUSINESS? HOW DO I FILE FOR A PERMIT? UM, HOW DO I FIND OUT ABOUT COUNCIL MEETINGS? IT, IT COULD BE A LOT OF THINGS. 
          THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY, UM, AND WE CAN UTILIZE OUR, OUR ANALYTICAL, UH, GOOGLE ANALYTICS AND OTHER ANALYTICAL TOOLS TO DRIVE UP SOME CONTENT THERE. 
          THIS CAN BE A MENU OF ALL THE THINGS THAT SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE TO GO, WHERE TO FIND THINGS. 
          IT CAN'T BE A, WE CAN'T MAKE THIS, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED LINKS LONG, BUT CERTAINLY IT WOULD COVER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED TODAY WITH, UM, PEOPLE NOT FAMILIAR WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 
          AND THEY DO WANT TO DO A CHANGE OF TENANT OR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, OR THEY WANNA REMODEL A, A COMMERCIAL LOCATION, JUST DUNNO WHERE TO START. 
          EVEN IF THIS DIRECTS THEM TO A PARTICULAR PAGE OR A TOOLKIT ON, ON INTER GOV, UH, THIS WILL WILL MEET THAT NEED OF SOMEONE NOT KNOWING WHERE TO GO, WHERE TO GO OR WHAT TO DO. 
          AND IT'S REALLY NOT FOR THEM, IT'S NOT INTUITIVE. 
          WE'RE HOPING THAT ALL OF THESE CATEGORIES, AND THESE MAY SHIFT OVER TIME, BUT ALL THESE CATEGORIES WILL BE AS INTUITIVE AS IT POSSIBLY CAN BE, SO THAT WHEN SOMEONE GOES TO A HOMEPAGE, THEY SHOULD, FOR THE MOST PART, BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE TO THE THING THEY WANT. 
          AND WE'RE PROVIDING THAT ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, WHILE IT'S UP, LET ME SHOW YOU, EXCUSE ME. 
          THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A CIVIC SEND TOOL THAT'S UTILIZED. 
          UM, THIS IS AN ACTUAL NEWSLETTER, UM, IN SPOKANE COUNTY. 
          THIS IS WHAT CIVIC PLUS PROVIDED ME AS A, AS AN EXAMPLE, UM, OF WHAT THAT CIVIC SEND LOOKS LIKE. 
          WILL WE BE ABLE TO ADD MORE GRAPHICS THAN THAT? CERTAINLY. 
          I'M SURE WE CAN ADD, UH, UH, PICTURES AS WELL TO THIS. 
          YES. 
          HERE'S A AND IS THAT GOING TO, UM, LIKE WHEN YOU USE CONSTANT CONTACT, A LOT OF TIMES THE EMAIL THAT GOES OUT ALSO HAS A LINK THAT PEOPLE CAN VIEW IT ON A STATIC WEBPAGE, SHARE IT WITH PEOPLE, IS IT GONNA HAVE THAT CAPABILITY? YES. 
          AND UH, I'LL SHOW YOU THIS. 
          THIS IS SORT OF THE INDEX OF ALL OF THE, THE NEWSLETTERS, AGAIN, THE SAME SPOKANE COUNTY, SAME LOCATION, JUST SHOWS YOU ALL THE DIFFERENT MESSAGE TYPES THAT THEY HAVE. 
          YOU CAN VIEW PREVIOUS MESSAGES. 
          SO, UM, AND I DID MAKE SURE THAT CIVIC PLUS, UM, COMMUNICATED TO US THAT THIS IS INTEGRATED WITH OUR WEBSITE. 
          THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WE'D BE MANUALLY PULLING IN AS A, AS A FEATURE OR TRYING TO TO TO MANAGE LINKS. 
          THERE WILL BE A LOCATION FOR THIS AND THEN CIVIC SEND THAT PLATFORM WILL PUSH THESE MESSAGES TO OUR WEBSITE. 
          SO HOW DOES THIS WORK? IS THIS CREATING DIFFERENT MAILING LISTS OR IS IT JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE EMAIL GOES OUT, THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES THAT ARE GOING INTO IT? UM, SO THIS NOTIFY ME SECTION IN PARTICULAR, PEOPLE WOULD COME HERE OR WE WOULD DIRECT THEM HERE AND THEY WOULD PROVIDE THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS, GO THROUGH, UH, A CHECKLIST OF OPT-IN MESSAGES, WHICH NEWSLETTERS THEY WANT TO FOLLOW, AND THEN THEY BECOME PART OF THAT NEWSLETTER LIST. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE'LL UTILIZE THE, THE PLATFORM TO PUSH THOSE MESSAGES TO EACH AUDIENCE SO THEY BECOME INDIVIDUAL EMAIL LISTS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          WILL WE HAVE JUST ONE OVERALL BIG CITY EMAIL NEWSLETTER THAT JUST SAYS, HERE'S ALL THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WATER, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON FOR EVENTS? YEAH, SO WE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE, UM, SOMEONE OPT IN TO PUSH OUT A NEWSLETTER. 
          WE COULD CREATE IT OURSELVES, DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE AN EMAIL LIST. 
          WE COULD DO IT WITHOUT ONE AND SORT OF CREATE AN INDEX OF THOSE NEWSLETTERS. 
          IF SOMEONE OPTED IN, LET'S SAY WE HAD A HUNDRED PEOPLE OPT IN, WE COULD STILL PUSH THOSE OUT 
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IN OTHER FORMATS. 
          SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A, AS A INDIVIDUAL U R L FOR THIS NEWSLETTER, BUT WE COULD SHARE THIS MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, THROUGH OTHER EMAILS TO OTHER AUDIENCES THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW TO OPT-IN. 
          AND EVERY TIME WE DO THAT, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROMOTE THE NEWSLETTER. 
          OKAY. 
          GEORGETOWN AND CEDAR PARK ARE DOING FANTASTIC MUNICIPAL NEWSLETTERS THAT HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED THE RESIDENTS TO KNOW, WHATEVER THE CADENCE IS EVERY COUPLE WEEKS. 
          UM, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE'RE DOING IS ON PAR WITH THEM BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE STANDARD NOW. 
          MM-HMM. 
           AND NOT JUST, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT JUST PUSHING OUT A BUNCH OF TEXT. 
          AND, AND I THINK WITH THAT, WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, I GUESS THAT OUR ABILITY TO DO THAT IS MULTIPLIED IN A WAY THAT, LET'S JUST SAY THE OTHER ENTITIES REFERENCED HAVE MUCH LARGER P I O STAFFS MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO THIS SMARTER, NOT HARDER BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          AND, AND THAT IS A REAL, I MEAN, I'M TALKING ABOUT MAYBE LIKE THREE TIMES ON AVERAGE, LARGER, UH, P I O STAFF. 
          SO WE NEED TO, HOWEVER WE DO IT NEEDS TO BE, I'M NOT SAYING AI GENERATED, BUT VERY EFFICIENT. 
          WELL, THAT'S FAIR. 
          EXCEPT THAT THESE NEWSLETTERS ARE INCREDIBLY EASY TO DO. 
          AND YOU ALREADY HAVE STAFF OUTSIDE OF THE P I O OFFICE THAT'S BASICALLY DOING IT, LIKE INCLUDING THE P I O THOUGH ALSO. 
          SO EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE GOING ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WHETHER IT'S COMING FROM PARKS OR P I O OR WHATEVER OTHER DEPARTMENT HAS THEIR OWN PD FIRE, YOU ALL HAVE YOUR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA CONTENT THAT'S GOING OUT. 
          AND CURRENTLY ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS HAVE TO KNOW WHERE TO GO TO FIND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PAGES. 
          AND THEY HAVE TO SET UP ALERTS FOR ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 
          WHEN THOSE CONTENT CREATORS MAKE SOMETHING, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS LOAD IT INTO THE TEMPLATE AND THE TEMPLATE JUST . 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, THAT WE HAVE THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          THAT I'M SAY IT DOESN'T TAKE EXTRA STAFF. 
          THEY'RE ALREADY DOING THE WORK. 
          I'M SAYING WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PLATFORM CAN TRANSLATE IT TO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          WITHOUT THE ADDITION OF EXTRA STAFF. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          YES. 
          AND IF NOT, THEN MAYBE WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE CONSTANT CONTACT OR MAILCHIMP YES. 
          IN DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          YES. 
          MY WORRY WAS WAS WE HAVE TO DO IT WITHIN OUR CURRENT CONFINES. 
          YES. 
          SINCE WE'RE NOT ADDING STAFF. 
          YES. 
          THIS WAS, UH, THIS WAS IDEAL AS A FIRST STEP IN THAT BECAUSE IT INTEGRATES, UH, AUTOMATICALLY WITHIN OUR PLATFORM, WITHIN THE WEBSITE AND ESTABLISHING THE, AGAIN, THE CADENCE, THE, THE ROUTINE, THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE NEWSLETTERS IS JUST AS IMPORTANT. 
          UM, IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ENCOURAGE DEPARTMENTS TO UTILIZE OUR EXISTING FACEBOOK PLATFORMS, POLICE, FIRE, AND CITY, BECAUSE THOSE AUDIENCES ARE, ARE MUCH LARGER IN PARKS, JUST EVEN GROWING THEIRS. 
          BUT, UH, USE WHAT WE HAVE, USE THE TOOLS WE HAVE AND LEVERAGE THE CONTENT THAT WE'RE ALREADY CREATING, LIKE YOU SAID, WITH SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          BUT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE DO LAUNCH A NEWSLETTER, A NEW ONE, UM, THAT IT IS, WE'RE PROVIDING CONTENT CONSISTENTLY AND PEOPLE CAN EXPECT TO FIND INFORMATION THERE. 
          AND WE'RE NOT JUST LEAVING IT DEAD IF SOMEONE WALKS AWAY OR IS ON VACATION. 
          YES. 
          WE'RE PROVIDING THAT ON A CONSISTENT BASIS. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I DID WANT TO, UH, SHOW YOU ONE MORE THING. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE OUR, OUR COUNTERPARTS THAT ALSO UTILIZE CIVIC PLUS. 
          UM, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW ALREADY, WILLIAMSON COUNTY IS ONE OF THOSE, UM, THEY'VE RECENTLY LAUNCHED THEIR, UH, CIVIC PLUS PRODUCT. 
          SO IF YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE CAPABILITIES, YOU CAN, YOU CAN GO TO THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY SITE NOW AND, AND LOOK AT, UM, SOME OF THOSE. 
          IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE VERY SIMILAR TO, TO OUR LAYOUT, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS AS MUCH AS CIVIC PLUS PRODUCT AS ANYTHING WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING. 
          BUT, UM, WE'RE DOING, UH, AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO, TO UPGRADE SOME OF THESE THINGS. 
          AND EVEN THE GOOGLE TRANSLATE, UH, WE, WE HAVE THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T WORK WELL ON OUR CURRENT SITE. 
          THOSE ACCESSIBILITY FEATURES WILL BE A PART OF THE NEW SITE AS WELL. 
          SO YOU CAN CERTAINLY LOOK THERE. 
          UH, IF YOU WANT A REAL LIVE EXAMPLE TODAY, YOU COULD LOOK AT THAT AS ONE AND THEY LAUNCHED MAYBE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. 
          IT'S BRAND NEW. 
          YEAH, IT'S RECENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND NOT THAT ANYBODY NEEDS ANYTHING ELSE ON THEIR PLATE, BUT WILCO'S NEW LOGO IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE OLD LOGO MIGHT NEED AN UPDATE. 
          SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT WITH THE, UM, THREE YEARS THAT, THAT WAS KIND OF SOMETHING THAT CAUGHT MY EYE AS A POTENTIAL TARGET IF WE WERE GONNA CONSIDER REBRANDING, UM, GETTING THIS, UM, MUCH BETTER TOOL IN PLACE KIND OF GIVES US THAT, THAT STAGE TO CONSIDER IF WE DO A REDESIGN, IT MIGHT AS WELL BE A REBRAND. 
          SO ABSOLUTELY. 
          JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          YES. 
          ARE WE ASKING THEM TO MAKE IT RESPONSIVE? SO THAT MEANS THAT IT SHOWS UP ON A MOBILE DEVICE? IT IS. 
          I'M LOOKING AT THE WILCO ONE AND IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD. 
          MM-HMM. 
           WHERE THINGS MOVE AROUND FOR YOUR MOBILE. 
          THAT IS ACTUALLY, THAT IS A STANDARD. 
          SO THIS WILL BE, UH, ADAPTIVE AND RESPONSIVE. 
          IT IS RESPONSIVE. 
          UM, WE WOULD CONSIDER THIS, UNLIKE OUR CURRENT WEBSITE, IT WOULD BE MOBILE FIRST. 
          [04:50:02]
SO THE WAY THAT THE ICONS, THE MENUS CASCADE, THE, THE TYPE OF, UH, FEATURES THAT ARE USED ARE, ARE MEANT TO BE RESPONSIVE SO THAT IT DOES RECEIVE SOME DEVELOPMENT ON THE DEVELOPMENT HUB PART OF OUR WEBSITE. 
          HOW IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD ON A MOBILE BROWSER. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ONE'S GONNA BE A HARD ONE TO DO. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT YEAH, AND THAT ONE'S A LITTLE, A LOT MORE CUSTOM, UM, THAN WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING, WHICH I THINK LENDS ITSELF TO SOME OF THE TOOLKITS, THE WALKTHROUGHS, THE, THE SUBMITTAL SCHEDULES, SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE MORE INDEX BASED. 
          UM, IT'S GONNA LOOK A LOT BETTER ON OUR SIDE AND, AND MIGHT EVEN BE EASIER TO FIND IF YOU'RE NOT DIRECTED THERE. 
          SO. 
          AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS PHOTOS. 
          WHEN PEOPLE GO TO EVENTS AND WE TAKE PHOTOS OF THEM, ARE WE ABLE LEGALLY, THIS IS PROBABLY A LEGAL QUESTION TO KIND OF USE THOSE ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY, WHEN WE HOST PUBLIC EVENTS AND WE, WE TAKE PHOTOS AT THOSE EVENTS, WE DO ASK PERMISSION WHEN WE, UM, TAKE PHOTOS, UH, OF DIFFERENT FOLKS. 
          BUT, BUT BEING A PUBLIC EVENT AND REPRESENTING THE CITY, UM, LIKE WHEN WE'RE TAKING PHOTOS OF THE STAGE OR, OR VENDORS, UM, THEY DO IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS, THERE'S, THEY DO COMMIT TO, TO WORKING WITH THE CITY FOR VENDORS, VENDORS AND ALLOWING US TO UTILIZE THEIR PRESENCE, UH, TO PROMOTE OUR EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES. 
          AND WE'RE ABLE TO USE THAT ON OUR WEBSITES. 
          MM-HMM. 
           WITH NO ISSUES. 
          I MEAN, I THINK IT'S ONE THING TO, IF THEY SIGN LIKE, YES, YOU CAN USE MY PHOTO, BUT THEY MAY NOT KNOW WHERE, WHAT WE AND, AND ECONOMIC, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          UM, WE HAVE A FLICKER OF ALBUMS TOO WHERE WE HOST A LOT OF THESE, UH, EVENT, UM, PHOTO ALBUMS OR PHOTO PAGES. 
          WHAT WE DON'T DO IS WE DON'T TURN AROUND AND THEN TRY TO SELL, UH, MATERIALS WITH THOSE PHOTOS ON THEM. 
          SO ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN US AND POSSIBLY OTHER, UH, PHOTOGRAPHERS OR OTHER BUSINESSES WHERE THOSE IMAGERY IS WHERE THAT'S USED, SOMETIMES WE'LL GET QUESTIONS FROM, UH, THIRD PARTIES OR REALTORS WHO WANNA UTILIZE SOME OF OUR PHOTOS. 
          WE DON'T GIVE THEM PHOTOS OF PEOPLE. 
          WE GIVE THEM PHOTOS OF OUR, OUR BUILDINGS AND PHOTOS OF OUR GOLF COURSE AND, AND LANDSCAPES SO THAT THERE'S NO QUESTION IF THEY'RE USING IT FOR THOSE PURPOSES, WE'RE OKAY. 
          UM, WE'RE JUST NOT MAKING PEOPLE, UH, OR GIVING OUT PEOPLE'S LIKENESS WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. 
          ARE THEY STILL TALKING ABOUT INCLUDING AN APP AT ONE POINT? I REMEMBER THAT WAS PART OF THE CIVIC PLUS DISCUSSION, INCLUDING AN APP. 
          MM-HMM. 
           A CITY APP WHERE PEOPLE COULD REPORT, UM, IF THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, SIMILAR TO WHAT PD DOES, BUT SORT OF FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND I WAS THINKING IF THAT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT'S DONE, THEN MAYBE WHEN WE HAVE THE A M I SYSTEM, WE COULD INTEGRATE THAT AS WELL. 
          WELL, SO WE HAVE A PRODUCT, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT 3 1 1? SO WE HAVE A PRODUCT CALLED TOWER 3 1 1. 
          UM, WE ALREADY HAVE IT. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS POTENTIALLY GROWING THAT TOOL, WHICH COULD ESSENTIALLY SERVE THE PURPOSE OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AS A REPORTING TOOL FOR DIFFERENT CODE VIOLATIONS OR POTHOLE REPORTING. 
          UM, WE, WE HAVE WORK ORDER TRACKING IN EVERY DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT. 
          THIS PRODUCT, THIS 3 1 1 PRODUCT IS SOMETHING, AND WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH UH, SOME MORE DETAILS ON THIS, BUT, UM, THAT WOULD SERVE THAT PARTICULAR PURCHASE. 
          WHAT CIVIC PLUS THEY COULD CREATE AN APP INTERFACE FOR THIS WEBSITE, ALTHOUGH I WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND WE NOT DO THAT BECAUSE YOU CAN SIMPLY BOOKMARK OUR WEBSITE AND IT SERVES THE SAME PURPOSE. 
          IF THERE WAS AN ENGAGEMENT WITHIN THAT, IF THERE WAS AN INTENTIONAL, UH, REPORTING TOOL, UH, COMPONENT TO IT, WHICH AGAIN, TOWER 3 1 1, WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT IT TODAY, BUT THAT WOULD SERVE THAT PURPOSE AND WE COULD SORT OF INTEGRATE A LOT OF THE OTHER WORK ORDER SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE, UH, INTO THAT TOOL. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING TO GROW. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM. 
           COUNCIL, ANYTHING ELSE? STAFF? ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, WITH THAT THEN 
          [9. Convene into Executive Session pursuant to Section 551.074, Texas Government Code, to discuss or deliberate the City Manager's 2023 Goals.]
ITEM NUMBER NINE, WE'RE GOING TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 0.074 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE THE CITY MANAGER'S 2023 GOALS. 
          THE TIME IS 2:13 PM ALL RIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION AT 3:57 PM TO TAKE ACTION AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE IN THE CITY COUNCIL'S DISCRETION REGARDING CITY MANAGER'S 2023 GOALS, MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO ACTION WITH THAT COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED ALSO AT 3:57 PM.
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