Nov 02, 2023 City Council Regular Meeting

GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.

ONCE AGAIN.

I'M TONY BETIS, THE CIP PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER.

UH, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH TONIGHT FOR ALLOWING US TO COME IN AND GIVE YOU ALL AN UPDATE ON THE OLD TOWN PARK.

UH, DEFINITELY WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT IT IS STILL A PROJECT.

IT IS, UH, WE HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN IT.

WE STILL WANNA KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.

UH, I WANNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE ON IT SO WE WE CAN CATCH UP TO WHERE WE ARE HAVE BEEN.

UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO REMEMBER, WE HIRED PLACE DESIGNERS BACK IN DECEMBER OF, UH, 2020.

UH, THEY CAME UP WITH A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.

WE HAD DRAWINGS PERMITTED BY AUGUST OF 2021.

UH, IN NOVEMBER, 2021, WE HAD THE FAC, WELL, WE HAD THE BRW SUBMITTED THE COMPREHENSIVE FACILITIES PLAN TO CITY COUNCIL, WHICH EVIDENTLY AFFECTED ALL OF OLD TOWN AND, AND A LOT OF OUR FACILITIES.

UH, WE DID GO OUT TO BID AT THAT SAME TIME.

BY DECEMBER OF 16, 20 21, WE HAD RECEIVED BIDS.

WE ONLY HAD ONLY RECEIVED TWO BIDS AT THAT TIME.

OUR BUDGET AT THAT TIME WAS $1 MILLION.

THEN WE HAD TWO BIDS, ONE, WHICH WAS 1.1 MILLION, WAS THE LOWEST, LOWEST BIDDER IMMEDIATELY DROPPED OUT.

UH, THE SECOND HIGHEST BIDDER WAS DISQUALIFIED.

SO WE WERE LEFT WITHOUT ANY BIDDERS.

WE WENT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL.

JE REQUESTED REJECTION OF ALL BIDS AND REQUESTED THAT WE GO BACK OUT TO BED.

SHORTLY THEREAFTER, WE HAD THE, UM, THE WINTER RETREAT WITH CITY COUNCIL.

CITY COUNCIL CAME BACK TO US AND ASKED US TO REVIEW THE SCOPE AND COST OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, THEY ADVISED US TO FIND A WAYS TO REDUCE THE SCOPE ON THIS PROJECT.

UH, AND I'LL GO BACK THROUGH HERE, THE PROJECT, WHAT IT HAD ACTUALLY LOOKED AT AND WHAT WAS DESIGNED, BECAUSE A FEW OF YOU WERE NOT ON THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME.

UH, AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT, HOW IT LOOKED.

BUT WE WENT BACK THROUGH AND WE LOOKED AT IT.

THEY WERE ALSO GIVEN A DIRECTIVE TO PLEASE WAIT TILL AFTER OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN WAS, UH, APPROVED.

AND SO WE DID THAT AS WELL.

UH, WE HAD OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN WAS APPROVED THIS PAST SEPTEMBER.

AND NOW THAT WE HAVE THAT, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE PARK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE PARK.

WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DO A A FEW THINGS.

UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO REMEMBER OUR ORIGINAL SCOPE, WE HAD A SHADE STRUCTURE OVER THE STAGE.

WE HAD SOME NICE CANOPIES OVER THE ALLEYWAY, WHICH WE COULD UTILIZE, UH, INTERMITTENTLY FOR PUTTING OUT LITTLE DINING AREAS OUT THERE.

WE HAD A, A NICE WATER TOWER WITH A CLOCK AND A RAIN CURTAIN.

WE WERE HOPING TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD PRODUCE SOME SORT OF, UH, ITEM, SOME SORT OF LANDMARK FOR THE, THE CITY.

UH, WE HAD WATER CANNONS.

WE HAD A BOCCE BALL COURT INFORMATION KIOSK.

THERE'S PLENTY OF SIDEWALKS, RAMPS, PAVER AREAS, OUTDOOR SEATING, LANDSCAPING, IRRIGATION, SITE LIGHTING, UM, YOU KNOW, ADA PARKING, STREET PARKING.

AND THEN WE HAD SOME, SOME WAYS TO CLOSE OFF THE ALLEY WITH SOME BOLLARDS TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT IN THEIR LITTLE AREA WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET BACK IN THERE, UH, AFTER WE REDUCED THE SCOPE.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AND WE'D LIKE TO COME BEFORE Y'ALL AND SAY, WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE WITH THE PARKING AT THIS POINT IN TIME INTERIM.

AND WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THE SHADE STRUCTURE OVER THE STAGE.

WE'D LIKE TO COME IN, PUT SOME CRUSH GRANITE PARKING NEXT TO THE STAGE TO HELP US GET SOME EXTRA PARKING IN THIS AREA.

UM, NOT IMMEDIATELY, BUT SOON FOLLOWING, WE'D LIKE TO DO SOME ON STREET PARKING ALONG BADDA STREET HEAD IN, BUT WE'D LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT WITH A SOUTH STREET PROJECT.

UH, WE BELIEVE IT WOULD GET A MUCH BETTER, UH, COST AND A MUCH BETTER PRODUCT.

AND WE'D ALSO LIKE TO DO THE, UH, SIDEWALKS ALONG WITH BADDA STREET AND SOUTH STREET AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

FOR THOSE WHO DO REMEMBER, THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL CON CONCEPT HERE.

UH, LET'S SEE IF I CAN ACTUALLY DO THIS.

WE HAD THE WATER TOWER WITH CLOCK.

THIS ACTUALLY HAD, UH, SHOWERS, RAIN CURTAIN THAT CAME OFF OF IT.

WE HAD OVER HERE, UM, WATER CANNONS.

UH, EVIDENTLY WE HAD GR UH, NICE GREEN AREAS, TREES ADDED IN, UH, SHRUBS, BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPING, LOTS OF SIDEWALKS, SEATING AREAS.

THERE WERE SEATING AREAS AROUND THIS, SEATING AREAS.

OVER OFF THE SIDE, THERE'S A BOCCE BALL COURT

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OVER HERE TO THE SIDE.

WE HAD ALL THIS EXTRA AREA BACK AND BACK, AND YOU CAN SEE THESE LITTLE CANOPIES THAT HAD LITTLE DINETTE SETS, LITTLE DINING AREAS UNDERNEATH THEM.

AND THEN WE HAD BOLLARDS THAT WE COULD POP UP AND CLOSE OFF THE AREA.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE DESIGNER PLACE DESIGNERS CAME BACK AND GAVE US A COST ESTIMATION OF 2.4 MILLION.

UM, EVIDENTLY THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE WANTED TO DIGEST AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

SO WE'RE PULLING BACK THE SCOPE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET TO ACTUALLY MAKE THIS A AN ENJOYABLE PART, SOMETHING WE CAN UTILIZE.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING PERMISSION TO DO IS WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THE, UM, SHADE SHELTER OVER THE STAGE SINCE IT GETS SO BOILING HOT ON THAT STAGE IN THE SUMMER, COME IN, PUT IN SOME CRUSH GRANITE PARKING AREAS.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE DON'T SHOW THAT WITH ANY KINDA TREES IN THIS AREA, BUT WE'D LIKE TO ADD IN SOME ADDITIONAL TREES FOR SOME ADDITIONAL SHADE AS WELL.

IN THE FUTURE.

THE NEAR FUTURE, WHEN I SAY NEAR FUTURE WILL BE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, WE'D LIKE TO PUT IN SOME HEAD END PARKING OVER HERE WITH THE SOUTH STREET PROJECT, AS WELL AS PARALLEL PARKING HERE.

AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE'D LIKE TO COME BACK IN AND PUT IN SIDEWALKS AS WELL.

SO WHAT WE'RE THINKING ON THE PROJECT TIMELINE IS RIGHT NOW, WE'D LIKE TO START GOING TOWARDS PROCURING A SHADE STRUCTURE.

THERE'S PROBABLY A LONG LEAD ON THESE ITEMS. UH, SO IT, I WOULD REALLY HOPE THAT WE WOULD HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO PUT THE SHADE STRUCTURE IN BY MAY, HOPEFULLY BEFORE OLD TOWN FESTIVAL HAVE SOMETHING THERE IN PLACE.

NOW, I HAVE TO PUT A CAVEAT OUT BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SO MANY LONG LEAD ITEMS ON MATERIALS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS GOING TO BE ANY DELAYS ON THAT, BUT WE'D LIKE TO AT LEAST GO DOWN THAT PATH AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT.

UH, WE'D LIKE TO SOLICIT WORK TO CONSTRUCT THE CRUSH GRANITE PARKING, UH, IN SPRING.

SO WE COULD INSTALL THOSE OR CONSTRUCT THAT IN THE SUMMER FOLLOWING, UM, OUR, UH, OLD TOWN FESTIVAL.

WE ARE CURRENTLY IN DESIGN FOR SOUTH STREET WEST DRIVE.

HOPEFULLY MAKE IT SOMETHING NICE THAT MATCHES ALONG THE LINES OF BRUSHY STREET.

UH, WE DO ANTICIPATE HAVING THE DRAWINGS READY, BEING ABLE TO GO OUT AND SOLICIT IMPROVEMENTS BY SUMMER OF 2025.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE'D LIKE TO INCLUDE THE HEAD END PARKING, THE PARALLEL PARKING AND SIDEWALKS ALONG THE SOUTH STREET.

UH, AND HOPEFULLY BY THAT TIME WE COULD BEGIN DOING SOME CONSTRUCTION.

HOPEFULLY BY AUTUMN OF 25, IT'D BE MINIMAL CONSTRUCTION.

BUT WE'D START AND HAVE ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION FINISHED BY SPRING OF 2027.

AND I'LL ASK IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT MY GOAL HERE IS TONIGHT IS TRY TO GET PERMISSION THAT WE ALLOW US TO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE WITH SOUTH, UM, WITH THE PARK.

SORRY, BUT IF, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME? THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION.

SO THE CRUSH GRANITE, HOW LONG DOES THAT TYPICALLY LAST DUE TO EROSION AND, UH, UNDERSTAND, AND YOU'RE QUITE CORRECT.

THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK BECAUSE IT, IT, IT MIGRATES SO TO SPEAK, AS YOU HAVE TIRES COME OVER, IT PICKS IT UP, PULLS IT, MOVES IT, IT'S, IT, DEPENDING UPON THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC WE HAVE AND ANY KINDA HEAVY DOWNPOURS, IT COULD NEED TO BE RENEWED WITHIN TWO YEARS.

UH, IT IS ONLY AN INTERIM PARKING AREA.

IT IS MEANT TO BE A USABLE SPACE ONCE WE ACTUALLY COMPLETE THE PARK TO BE A, A, A PUBLIC SPACE, NOT NECESSARILY PARKING.

BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, CORRECT.

I WOULD IMAGINE THAT AFTER ABOUT TWO YEARS, WE'D BE LOOKING AT REFRESHING THAT CHRIS GRANITE.

MY QUESTION WAS REALLY ABOUT HOW THIS PROJECT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THE FIRE IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE DOING ALREADY, BUT YOU ADDED THE TIMELINE, SO THAT MAKES SENSE.

IF YOU START IN 24, YOU WOULDN'T ACTUALLY START CONSTRUCTING UNTIL THE SUMMER.

YES, MA'AM.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND WHEN YOU SAY A LONG LEAD TIME, WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN? 12 MONTHS? YES.

MY, MY APOLOGIES.

UH, FOLLOWING COVID, WE HAD A LOT OF SITUATIONS, AND PROBABLY SOME OF YOU HAD SEEN THIS, WHERE ITEMS THAT WOULD NORMALLY TAKE US MAYBE SIX WEEKS TO OBTAIN AFTER A SOLICITATION PROCUREMENT, THEY'RE TAKING AS MUCH AS THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, SOME OF THESE, TAKING AS MANY AS 12 MONTHS OKAY.

TO ACTUALLY OBTAIN.

OF COURSE.

I JUST HAVE A, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS JUST KIND OF A REMINDER.

SO THIS WAS ALL FUNDED THROUGH THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.

AND THAT CAME OUT TO A ROUGHLY A MILLION OR A LITTLE OVER A MILLION.

THAT'S, SO THAT 2 MILLION JUST PUT IT WAY OUT OVER THE BUDGET.

SO THE, I KNOW WE, WE ALL AGREED THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT THAT'S SUCH A DIFFERENCE WHAT YOU JUST SHOWED.

AND THE ORIGINAL PLAN, UH, DO WE HAVE, AND, AND THIS IS WHERE I NEED THE REMINDER, DO, DO WE HAVE, UM, LIKE A LONG-TERM PLAN TO GET TO THAT? I WOULD LIKE TO SAY YES.

THAT'S WHY I WANNA INCLUDE IT WITH SOUTH STREET.

I THINK WE CAN GET AN ECONOMY OF SCALE AND SAVINGS WHEN WE BUILD IT IN WITH SOUTH STREET.

AND HOPEFULLY BRING THAT COST DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO.

WELL THAT, AND AS WE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE GET ADDITIONAL PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES CAN FINISH IT, UM, BUT WE NEED TO ALSO AGREE ON WHAT FINISHED IS.

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YES, PLEASE.

WE WOULD LIKE THAT.

SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE I JUST WHAT, WHAT YOU JUST SHOWED US, THE THE SCALED DOWN VERSION IS NOT THE FINISHED VERSION.

THAT IS CORRECT.

WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO MAKE IT INTO A NICE LITTLE PART.

I, I AGREE.

BUT I THINK WE'RE TAKING KIND OF A MODULAR APPROACH, RIGHT.

JUST DOING LITTLE PIECES HERE AND THERE UNTIL WE GET TO THAT PHASING PHASING PHASING .

WELL, AND I THINK TO THAT END AND WHAT STARTED THIS PROCESS TOO, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DOWNSIZING OF IT STRICTLY FROM, UM, KNOWING THAT WITH THE OLD TOWN PLAN, AND WE MAY END UP NEEDING SOME OF THIS PARK SPACE TO EXPAND A BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WHAT I REALLY DIDN'T WANT IS FOR US TO BUILD THIS BEAUTIFUL PARK AND THEN TURN AROUND AND RIP IT DOWN IN 10 YEARS OR WHATEVER THE TIMELINE IS.

SO HAVING THIS AND GIVING US KIND OF WHAT WE NEED, IT'S NOT AS PRETTY AS WE WOULD LIKE.

BUT ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THAT PIECE OF GROUND IS GONNA ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE, THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY, THAT WE CAN MAKE SOMETHING NICE OUT OF IT.

SO, I LIKE THIS, WHAT WE'RE DOING.

I WOULD IMAGINE THE DIAGRAM THAT YOU SHOWED OVER THE ILLUSTRATION WAS MUCH LOWER THAN OUR INITIAL BUDGET.

THIS ONE OR MY POLICY? UM, NO, THE NEXT ONE, THE ONE THAT, THAT CATHERINE WAS YEAH.

LIKE THIS ONE.

THAT WOULD BE MUCH LOWER THAN OUR ORIGINAL BUDGET, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

MUCH LOWER.

IT WOULD FIT WITHIN WHAT THE END ALSO JUST WANTING CLARIFICATION ON THAT TO MAKE SURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

IT WOULD DEFINITELY FIT WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE.

WELL WITHIN.

SO, AND REMIND ME TOO, I KNOW, UM, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IN PART OF THE WALKWAYS, UM, NOT WAYFINDERS, BUT LIKE THE HISTORICAL, UM, NO, THE, UM, THERE, THERE'S INTERPRETIVE PANELS OR YES, THAT'S IT.

I COULD NOT THINK OF THEM.

INTERPRETIVE PANELS.

YES, OF COURSE.

SOMETHING THAT I SAY EVERY DAY, OF COURSE.

AND YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT WITH THE OKAY.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

DOES THAT UPDATE THE SCALE DOWN VERSION INCLUDE ANYTHING WITH THE ELECTRICAL BEING UPDATED? NO.

NOT AT THE TIME.

GOT IT.

NO IRRIGATION, NO PLUMBING, NO ELECTRICAL.

SO JUST THE TARP COVER? YES, MA'AM.

GOT IT.

DO YOU HAVE A ROUGH ESTIMATE ON WHAT, WHAT THAT'S GONNA RUN US RIGHT NOW AT THIS POINT IN TIME? UM, WE HAVE LOOKED AT NUMBERS FOR SHADE SHELTERS.

AND INSTALLED.

THEY'D RUN ANYWHERE FROM 25,000 TO 150,000.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I DO NOT HAVE A DEFINITIVE NUMBER FOR YOU.

NO, THAT'S OKAY.

BUT I'M JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, WELL, WELL, WELL BELOW WHAT, YES, THIS OVERALL PROJECT SCOPE WAS.

SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, LIKE, JUST SPEAKING IN MY MIND, I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING MOVE FORWARD AS LONG AS WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT WAY.

SO IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH CONTINUING THE DISCUSSIONS TO HAVE A PARK IN THIS LOCATION, I THINK WE'LL ALL PROBABLY SAY YES TO THOSE THINGS.

UM, AND JUST THE, THE TIMING OF WHICH, WHICH COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS WAS TALKING ABOUT TOO, JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH FLEXIBILITY IF WE NEED THE, THE SPACE FOR SOMETHING ELSE TOO.

ABSOLUTELY.

I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS WELL ARE VERY ECHOY.

UM, SO A MINUTE AGO WHEN, WHEN THE DISCUSSION TURNED TO THE INTERPRETIVE PANELS, UM, THAT STRUCK ME AS SOMETHING LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A FEW TIMES MM-HMM.

SCOUT PROJECTS BECAUSE WE GET KIDS THAT WANNA MAKE EAGLE SCOUT THAT REACH OUT A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR LOOKING FOR PROJECTS AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THEY COULD DO.

IS THAT A POSSIBILITY FOR THIS PARK TO TAKE ITEMS LIKE THAT THAT COULD BE DONE AND DONATED BY PUBLIC GROUPS OR PEOPLE AND HAVING LIKE A LIST AND SAYING, OOH, THAT WOULD BE A NICE IDEA? I THINK SO.

THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO GET THE PANELS A LITTLE FASTER, PERHAPS.

WELL, I THINK THE HISTORICAL, UM, COMMISSION WAS WORKING ON THAT, UM, A LITTLE BIT.

SO, AND I KNOW JUST COMMUNICATION, I THINK JUST SO THERE'S NOT OVERLAP OR REDUNDANCY, WE YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

AND EVEN IF IT'S STUFF LIKE FLOWER PLANTING AND WHATEVER, JUST THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC CAN DO TO INVEST IN THE PARK AS WELL, I THINK WOULD BE GREAT.

AND THEN, UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT SOME INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS WITH PARKING.

IS THE ENTIRE SCOPE THAT YOU SHOWED US TONIGHT, IS ALL OF THAT COMING OUT OF PARKLAND DEDICATION? NO, NOT ALL OF IT.

WE TRIED TO GET SOME OF THIS WITH REGARDS TO THE HEAD END PARKING AND PARALLEL PARKING WOULD BE PART OF THE SOUTH STREET WEST DRIVE PROJECT.

UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I CAN'T TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY WHICH OF THOSE FUNDS WOULD, THOSE WOULD BE OKAY.

BUT I NOT 100% SURE THAT THOSE WOULD BE PARKED ON DEDICATION.

SO WOULD THE FUNDING ALREADY BE ALLOCATED AT THIS POINT IN TIME? NO.

SO IF WE SAY GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THEN, THEN IT GOES OFF TO OUR BUDGET WIZARD AND WE FIGURE OUT FUNDING .

I COULDN'T MISS A DIG

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AT DAN.

SO THE, I'M SORRY.

THE QUESTION ABOUT OTHER FUNDING RELATED TO CHANGING SOUTH STREET OR YES.

IS ALL OF THE FUNDING FOR THE SCOPE THAT WE SEE TONIGHT ALREADY ALLOCATED SOMEWHERE? OR DOES SOMETHING HAVE TO BE MOVED AROUND? WELL, THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT, UH, TONY WAS TALKING ABOUT ON, ON, UH, BAGHDAD, THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE ORDER TO THE, UH, SCOPE OF SOUTH STREET.

SO THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED IN TERMS OF WHETHER THAT WOULD CAUSE THAT BUDGET TO GO, UH, HIGHER THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY BUDGETED.

BUT THE DESIGN FOR THAT IS NOT FINISHED UNTIL, UNTIL NEXT YEAR, 2025.

SO THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT, THAT WOULD INCREASE THAT, UH, SCOPE WITH THE SOUTH STREET.

SO WHAT WAS THE TIMELINE ON THAT AGAIN? I'M SORRY.

OH, OF COURSE.

WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT, UH, WE'D HAVE, UH, SOUTH STREET COMPLETED BY, UH, WINTER SPRING 2025 FOR THE DRAWINGS PERMITTED, HOPEFULLY READY TO GO, UH, PUT IT OUT TO SOLICIT BID.

AND WE'D LIKE TO ANTICIPATE THAT IT'S GONNA BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN, IN AUTUMN 2025.

SO THAT'S, THAT PART OF THE ROAD IS THE ONLY PART THAT HAS A QUESTION MARK ON FUNDING RIGHT NOW FOR THIS PROJECT AT, YES.

SO THEN I THINK, UH, OH, ALL .

SO THAT, THAT, THAT PROJECT, WE COULD CERTAINLY ADD THAT SCOPE OF THE SMALL PARKING LOT, WHICH WOULD BE GOOD TO DO FOR ECONOMY OF SCALE.

AND ADD IT TO DESIGN, WHICH IS NOT AN ISSUE.

THE WHOLE PROJECT RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE IT CAP FUNDED THROUGH CAP METRO.

AND SO I THINK IT'S BUDGETED WITH CAP METRO FOR ABOUT 6 MILLION.

SO THE, THE DILEMMA IS THERE'S A LOT OF UTILITIES IN OLD TOWN PARK.

, UM, AND SOME OF THE DESIGN IS TO WIDEN THE ROAD AND OTHER THINGS.

UM, IN THAT AREA WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKING, WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT LOWERING THE, UM, POWER CABLES FOR PEC UNDERGROUND, LIKE MUCH LIKE WE'RE DOING FOR RAIDER WAY.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO ALSO PAY FOR THAT.

SO WHEN THIS GETS FINALLY DESIGNED AND, AND PUT OUT FOR BID, UM, TO CERTAIN, SO YOU'RE NOT SURPRISED.

'CAUSE RIGHTAWAY IS A FUN EXAMPLE.

IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE MORE THAN EVEN THE 6 MILLION.

'CAUSE IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WORK, UM, THROUGH THE OLD DOWNTOWN AREA AND THE UTILITIES AND, AND THE MOVEMENT OF THAT.

SO WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IS HOW WE'RE GONNA FUND THE ENTIRE PROJECT PROBABLY AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

BUT WE WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL WE GET THE DESIGN GOING, UM, FURTHER.

BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS ADD THAT SMALL SECTION INTO THE DESIGN.

'CAUSE WE WILL GET ECONOMY OF SCALE.

IF YOU'RE GONNA REPA THE ROAD, YOU MIGHT AS WELL DO THAT OTHER LITTLE SECTION THERE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DEMOBILIZE AND DEMOBILIZE A SMALLER COMPANY, NOT AS IT WAS AN EMERGENCY OR WE NEEDED IT RIGHT AWAY.

BUT IF WE DON'T, THEN THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT.

AND, AND AS FAR AS THE REST OF THE PARK, THE 1 MILLION THAT WE DO HAVE IN THERE WOULD PAY FOR THE STRUCTURE AND THE GRANITE.

BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, PARKS HAS MONEY FOR TREES.

SO WE COULD USE THE TREE MONEY TO PUT THE TREES IN AND THE CURRENT MONEY TO DO THE CANOPY AND THE GRANITE.

BUT, UM, LIKE TONY STATED, THAT COST FOR THOSE ITEMS WON'T COME CLOSE TO THE 1 MILLION, PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE HUNDRED.

AND SO THEY'RE STILL FUNDING TO DO SOME MORE OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO, UM, IN THE FUTURE.

UM, I THINK TOO, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF, UM, GRANT PROGRAMS OR STATE PROGRAMS THAT WOULD ASSIST WITH THE TREES AS WELL, IF WE WANTED TO CUT ANY COSTS THERE.

UM, SO, OKAY.

I FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT NOW.

AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS ON THE SHADE STRUCTURE, ARE YOU LOOKING TO COVER THE ENTIRE STAGE OR ARE YOU GONNA DO ONE OF THE STUDIES THROUGH THE CONTRACTOR THAT TELLS YOU WHERE THE SUN IS DIFFERENT TIMES OF YEAR, AND WHAT PARTS YOU NEED TO COVER SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AS MUCH? I BELIEVE OUR INTENT WAS TO COVER THE ENTIRE STAGE.

UM, I HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE.

UM, A MILLION YEARS AGO I WAS PTA PRESIDENT.

WE HAD TO DO SHADE STRUCTURES OVER THE PLAYGROUNDS.

AND IT'S, IT'S A SIMILAR FOOTPRINT.

AND THE COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JUST PLANNING FOR WHAT YOU NEED BASED ON THE SUN VERSUS COVERING THE ENTIRE THING CAN BE SORT OF SIGNIFICANT.

SO PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE, LIKE IT IF THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, JUST TO SEE IF THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE OPTIONS AND IF THAT AFFECTS THE, THE BOTTOM LINE OF THE PROJECT AT ALL.

YES, MA'AM.

WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT.

SO ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE, LIKE THE SHADES THAT MOVE? NO, IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE FABRIC STRUCTURES LIKE YOU SEE OVER PLAYGROUNDS WITH THE METAL POLES THAT HOLD IT UP.

YOU'RE SITTING OUT THERE IN THE, IN THE LATE AFTERNOON, THOSE, YOU HAVE THE, THE CANOPY HERE, BUT THE SHADE IS OVER HERE.

'CAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE, I, AND I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.

THEY HAVE TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT THE KIND THAT MOVES MM-HMM.

BECAUSE IF

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SO IT REALLY WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T SERVE.

BUT IF, IF IT, IF YOU HAD ONE THAT MOVED WITH THE SUN, THEN YOU HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY.

AND MIKE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

NO, I'M NOT, NOT HERE TO CHIME IN ON THAT SPECIFICALLY, BUT I DID WANNA MENTION, I THINK WE, WE KIND OF KNOW THIS AS WELL.

IT WILL HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE REMOVED.

SO WE, WE DO THE CHRISTMAS TREE, YES.

IT EXTENDS FAR BEYOND WHAT THE SHADE STRUCTURE WOULD, WOULD HAVE AS FAR AS, UH, ELEVATION.

SO, BUT WE'LL ABSOLUTELY WORK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND, AND CREATE SOME PRICE COSTS FOR THOSE.

GREAT.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL? WONDERFUL.

AND NOW, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE, GRIMS BOW, WELCOME BACK TO TALK ABOUT AMI.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

DAN GRIMS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, YES, WE WE'RE, THIS IS JUST GONNA BE A PRESENTATION OF, UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE TO DATE AND A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, WHERE WE'RE GOING IN THE FUTURE.

AND I'M GONNA INTRODUCE HECTOR PENA, UH, AND LET HIM INTRODUCE HIS TEAM AND HIS COMPANY AND, UH, WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR THE CITY OF LEANER.

DONE.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY A COMMUNICATION NETWORK.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

UM, AGAIN, SAID, I'M HECTOR PENA, I'M WITH AA, AND, UH, GOT A FEW, UH, KAYLE.

SHE, UM, JAMES AND MOLLY HERE WITH US, AND WE'VE PARTNERED WITH, WITH ATLAS.

WE'LL INTRODUCE TOMMY HERE.

I'LL, I'LL GET CLOSER.

I'M SORRY.

UM, SO WE'VE, UH, WE'VE TEAMED UP WITH, UH, WITH ATLAS.

WE'RE ALSO AMI EXPERTS, AND WE'VE GOT, UH, TOMMY MCCAL HERE WITH US.

AND IF I GO TO NEXT SLIDE, YOU SEE, UH, I'LL COVER THE AGENDA HERE IN A SECOND.

I'LL, I'LL JUMP TO, TO THE INTRODUCTIONS HERE.

SO, GOT A PICTURE OF MYSELF HERE.

I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR, FOR THE AMI PROJECT AND KAYLEEN'S OUR, UM, OUR ANALYST FOR THE PROJECT.

TOMMY, UH, IS OUR AMI EXPERT.

HE'S ON, UH, I'LL LET, I'LL LET YOU, UH, I'LL LET YOU OUT TO YOUR RESUME, ME HERE.

BUT, UH, UM, WE'VE GOT, UM, OF COURSE, THESE, THESE ARE THE, UH, FOUR OF US WORKING ON THIS DAY TO DAY.

BUT WE'VE GOT A, UH, MORE OF US WHO ARE, WHO ARE NOT SHOWING UP HERE, OR WE'RE NOT PRESSING HERE FOR THE, FOR THE MEETING.

BUT TOMMY, YEAH.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, GET YOU UP TO DATE WITH WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE AMI PROJECT.

UH, GIVE ME A MOMENT HERE.

AS I MANAGED TO NOT MESS UP THE POINTER, GO BACK TO THE, UH, AGENDA.

WE'RE GOING TO, WE ALREADY WENT OVER INTRODUCTIONS.

WE'RE GONNA START WITH WHAT IS AMI, I'LL TELL Y'ALL WHAT THAT IS.

IT'S A ACRONYM TO START WITH ADVANCED METERING INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THERE'S SOME DETAIL BEHIND IT.

WE'LL GO OVER PROJECT OVERVIEW.

WE'LL DO SOME ACTIVITIES TODAY TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE'VE DONE.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT GOING ON.

UH, THE AMI SOLUTION STRATEGY, THERE'S A COUPLE PILLARS THAT ARE IMPORTANT.

I THINK THE CITY WILL RECOGNIZE THE SCHEDULE NEAR TERM AND OVERALL.

THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME BUDGETARY COSTS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

SO WHAT IS AMI ADVANCED METERING INFRASTRUCTURE? WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT UP HERE IS YOU'VE GOT YOUR WATER CUSTOMER, YOUR, YOUR PREMISE, YOUR PRIVATE PREMISES, AND THE UTILITY.

AND THERE'S A CONNECTOR THERE THAT INCLUDES COMMUNICATION.

YOU SEEING IT IN ALL, I MEAN, WIRELESS, CELLULAR PHONES, ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES THAT ARE OUT THERE.

AND WHAT WE DO IS CONNECT THE PRIVATE PREMISE, THE WATER METER TO THE UTILITY TO GIVE IT ALL THE INFORMATION IT NEEDS.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAT COMES BACK, BUT TYPICALLY THE UTILITY DRIVERS, AND THIS IS WHAT ARE THE DRIVERS FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER, THAT IS CUSTOMER BILLING, PRIVATE SIDE LEAKS, CUSTOMER SELF-SERVICE, CUSTOMER SATISFACTION, CUSTOMER SEGMENTATION.

THAT'S UNDERSTANDING LIKE, UH, CAR WASHES, UH, UH, MAJOR BUSINESSES, INDUSTRIAL COMPLEXES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT GO INTO DIFFERENT TYPES OF USE PATTERNS.

THEN YOU HAVE THE MORE ACCURATE CUSTOMER METERING.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME AGED METERS.

THERE'S A LOT OF VOLUME THAT'S PASSED THROUGH YOUR METERS.

AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IF QUESTIONS COME UP.

WHAT THIS MEANS IN THE INDUSTRY IS DEMAND SIDE MANAGEMENT.

AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WHEN WE GET TO THE PILLARS, YOU'LL SEE THAT A LOT.

MOST OF THE DRIVERS HERE ARE CENTERED ON ENHANCED CONSERVATION AND ENHANCED CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT.

THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SCALABILITY OF THIS INVESTMENT, SO THAT IT CAN TURN INTO MORE OPTIMIZATION OF THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM AND OTHER THINGS THAT OCCUR.

AND YOU'VE HEARD THESE TERMS, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE FOCUSED ON, BUT SMART CITIES, SMART UTILITIES, THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

BUT INITIALLY IT IS DEMAND SIDE MANAGEMENT.

SO THE PROJECT OVERVIEW AND WHERE WE'RE AT THE PROJECT'S, THREE PHASES.

FIRST PHASE IS PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT.

THE SECOND PHASE IS PROCUREMENT.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE STEPPING INTO AND WHY WE'RE BEFORE COUNCIL.

AND THEN THE THIRD PHASE IS IMPLEMENTATION.

EACH ONE OF THE RED BOXES ACTUALLY REPRESENT SOMEWHAT OF A HIGH LEVEL, LEVEL ONE, IF YOU WILL, ACTIVITY.

AND WE'VE COMPLETED THOSE

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FIRST THREE WITH THE, UH, PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT AND ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WRITING A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, AN RFP, WHICH IS AGAIN, WHY WE'RE HERE, UM, AS A, AS IN FRONT OF THE BODY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE AND UP TO DATE WITH WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING AND WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE.

SO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ABOUT AMI THAT IS KIND OF BURIED WITHIN THIS IS IF YOU LOOK UP AT THE INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDER COMMUNICATIONS, ONE OF OUR PRIME ACTIVITIES HAS BEEN TO SPEAK WITH THE PIO AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT GROUP TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, WE STARTED WORKING ON COMMUNICATION PLANS BECAUSE AMI PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS TOUCH EVERY PREMISE IN THE CITY.

UH, CITIZENS WILL BE IMPACTED IN SOME WAY.

FLOWER BEDS WILL BE MESSED UP.

STUFF WILL HAPPEN.

AND SO THERE'S THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO WALK THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT COMMUNICATION AND EDUCATION IS BEGINNING EARLY AND OFTEN, SO THAT WE MITIGATE AS MUCH IMPACT AS WE CAN.

UM, WE ALSO, YOU CAN SEE THIS AND WE WON'T SPEND MUCH MORE TIME ON IT, BUT YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, WE CAN COME BACK TO IT BECAUSE THEY, THESE ARE VERY COMPLEX PROJECTS BECAUSE OF THE SCALE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED, THE ACTIVITIES WE'VE HAD TO DATE.

I WON'T READ ALL OF THIS, BUT IT'S BEEN A LOT.

AND YOUR TEAM HAS BEEN ACTIVELY INVOLVED.

WE'VE, UH, INVOLVED QUITE A BIT, AS I MENTIONED, THE PIO AND, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, UM, THE, THE SEE THE CHIEF OPERATING OR CHIEF OF STAFF INVOLVED WITH US, WE'VE HAD ROBIN, SHE'S GOTTEN ONTO US BEFORE.

WE'VE HAD THIS, ALMOST EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM INVOLVED TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY OF LEANER WOULD LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS, UH, SYSTEM.

THE STRATEGY BOILS DOWN TO THESE TWO PILLARS.

ENHANCED CONSERVATION AND ENHANCED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

UH, WHY, WHY WOULD WE DO THAT? WELL, CONSERVATION, WE UNDERSTAND FROM, YOU KNOW, OUR PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS THAT HAVE MET WITH US, THAT THERE IS A GAP IN PROJECTED GAP IN SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

AND SO THERE ARE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS THAT ARE BEING LOOKED AT IN THE FUTURE THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY START DEFERRING SOME OF THAT OPPOR SOME OF THOSE, SOME OF THOSE MONIES IF THE CONSERVATION PROGRAMS ARE SUCCESSFUL, WHICH YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE THEM TO BE WITH THE INVESTMENT THAT'S BEING MADE.

SO YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT BILL AND HIS CONSERVATION GROUP ARE EMPOWERED WITH THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO UNDERSTAND HOW CONSUMPTION IS OCCURRING ON THE DEMAND SIDE.

SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE A UTILITY PERSPECTIVE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE, THE RIGHT HAND SLIDE.

THIS IS EMPOWERING THE CITIZEN BASE TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, CHARGE OF THEIR WATER CONSUMPTION, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.

YOU KNOW, BILLING, WHAT HAVE YOU.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, AND I'LL BELIEVE NAMES OUT OF IT, BUT WE'VE HEARD THAT THERE'S ONE AREA OF TOWN THAT CONSUMES 30% OF THE WATER PRODUCED.

AND IT'S LIKE, WHOA.

WELL, THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW.

AND SO AS YOU GET THROUGH THIS AND YOU SEE THE CUSTOMERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH THE UTILITY THROUGH THE CUSTOMER PORTAL TO, UM, KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'RE USING ON AN HOURLY BASIS AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT TO THE OVERALL STR UH, STRATEGIES OF THE CITY.

SO THESE ARE THE PILLARS OF THE PROGRAM.

THE PROJECT'S SCHEDULED NEAR TERM, AGAIN, WE'RE MOVING INTO PROCUREMENT.

WE HAVE THE DRAFT RFP BEING DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW, AND IT WILL, UM, AS, AS DAN AND THE TEAM DECIDE THAT IT IS READY TO BE RELEASED, IT'LL BE RELEASED, IT'LL GO OUT TO THE MARKET.

THE MARKET WE HAD, UH, JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED AN RFI PROCESS WHERE 10 DIFFERENT VENDORS CAME IN AND SPOKE TO THE, UH, TEAM TO TELL 'EM ABOUT THEIR SOLUTION, WHAT DO THEY HAVE AVAILABLE.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE THAT AND NOW MARRY IT UP TO WHAT THE CITY IS, DECIDE OR DETERMINE WHAT THEY NEED OR WANT.

AND NOW WE'RE TURNING THAT INTO SPECIFICATIONS THAT WILL ACTUALLY LEAD TO THE PROCUREMENT.

UH, THEY'LL LEAD TO, UH, NEGOTIATIONS.

AND THEN OF COURSE THE FINAL CONTRACT OVERALL.

NOW THESE MONTHS ARE, ARE SKEWED A BIT.

THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULE.

AND IT JUST DEPENDS BY SKEWED A BIT.

I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT FIRM.

AND BY, IF YOU LOOK AT IT AND YOU SEE WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IN THE OVERALL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE IN NOVEMBER, THE RFP DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ON TARGET FOR THAT.

BUT WE'RE, IT MAY SHIFT RIGHT NOW, IT SHOW IN MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER.

IT MAY END NOVEMBER, BEING SENSITIVE TO THE HOLIDAYS.

THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING VARIABLES TO THIS PARTICULAR TIME IN, IN PLACE IN THE CALENDAR PROCUREMENT AND CONTRACT NEGOTIATION, THIS IS KIND OF HOW IT FITS.

BUT YOU CAN SEE ESSENTIALLY THAT THERE WILL BE A CONTRACT COMING BEFORE COUNCIL SOMETIME MARCH, APRIL, MAY PERIOD, RIGHT IN THERE.

IT DEPENDS.

APRIL, MAY IS PROBABLY MORE REASONABLE BUDGETARY COST.

NOW, CAUTIONARY TELL THE NUMBERS YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE ARE STRAIGHT OFF THE RFI, WHICH WAS VERY GENERAL.

WE HAD SUBMITTED A, AN RFA REQUEST FOR INFORMATION RFI WITH A SERIES OF QUESTIONS THAT DIDN'T GIVE ANY SPECIFICITY OF WHAT THE CITY WAS LOOKING FOR.

WE JUST WANTED TO HEAR WHAT THE MARKET AVAILED ITSELF UP.

AND SO THEY CAME BACK WITH THESE NUMBERS.

AND THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF THE DIFFERENT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH

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EACH OF THESE, THE UPFRONT CAPITAL AS WELL AS THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT.

UM, THE RANGES VARY SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SPECIFICITY GIVEN.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW WITH THE RFP, IS TO PUT VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS IN THAT WILL BE, UM, COSTED IT AND ACCOUNTED FOR.

AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT DETAIL THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS AND THE REVIEW PROCESS TO COME UP WITH AND SETTLE IN ON WHAT THE EXACT DOCUMENT WILL LOOK LIKE FOR THE MARKET TO RESPOND TO.

BUT THESE ARE DIRECTIONAL AND SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

BUT WITH SPECIFICITY, I WOULD, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO LEAN YOU TOWARDS THE HIGH END OF THIS RANGE, IF NOT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO BE CONSIDERATE OF WHAT THAT BUDGETARY NUMBER MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY, ON THE NUMBER, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR ROLLOUT TO THE ENTIRE CITY OR JUST A PORTION THEREOF? UH, MADAM MAYOR, THE, IT, IT'S A SEQUENCING.

IT'LL BE THE WHOLE CITY, BUT IT WON'T JUST HAPPEN IN ONE FELL SWOOP, IT GOES INTO A SEQUENCING PERIOD.

AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WORK WITH THE LEADERSHIP STAFF, IS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MIGHT BE THE BEST APPROPRIATE SEQUENCING.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE SETTLING IN ON BILL CYCLES AND NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO BILL CYCLE ONE AS AN EXAMPLE, WOULD BE ADDRESSED FIRST, AND THEN YOU JUST WORK SEQUENTIALLY THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

BUT THAT IS NOT FIRM YET.

THAT'LL ACTUALLY BE SETTLED.

OH, I'M SORRY, DAN.

THAT'S OKAY.

THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THE, THE INTENT IS TO HAVE THE WHOLE CITY ON AMI.

NOW HOW WE IMPLEMENT IT MIGHT BE ONE THING OR ANOTHER, BUT THE PLAN IS TO HAVE EVERYBODY ON THE SYSTEM.

SO THE SLIDE THAT WE JUST SAW ABOUT THE BUDGET, YEAH.

EIGHT, 8.5 TO 12.5, WE THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'LL BE TO DO THE WHOLE CITY.

WELL, MY, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING PROBABLY CLOSER TO THE 12 TO 15 RANGE DEPENDING ON, ON WHAT IT IS.

AND SO PART OF THIS CONVERSATION AND, AND, AND, UM, THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND ROBERT AND I, UM, WE HAVE TO HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.

IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE OUT DEBT.

AND THEN WHEN THAT HAPPENS AND, UM, AND, AND, AND ASSURANCES IS THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DO BECAUSE ONCE WE PUT THE RFP OUT, STRICTLY SPEAKING, WE'RE TELLING THE WORLD THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS.

AND SO THAT'S THE PLAN.

AND HOW MUCH DO WE ALREADY HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THIS? WELL, WE HAVE, UH, FOR THE ARP ABOUT $5 MILLION.

SO WE'RE SIGNIFICANTLY SHORT.

AND, AND, AND, AND THE NUMBERS THAT WE GOT FROM, FROM THEM WAS KIND OF AN OVERARCHING, UM, TOMMY'S WRIGHT, BUT, BUT NONE OF THE OTHER COMPANIES KNEW THEY WERE SUBMITTING ANYTHING OR, OR REALLY WHAT THEY WERE SUBMITTING.

SO THE NUMBERS WE GOT ARE KIND OF LIKE, UM, VERY SIMILAR TO THE RAIDER WAY.

WE GOT SIX BIDS AND THEY WERE ALL BETWEEN 15.5 AND 16.1, WHERE THESE ARE COMING OUT SIMILAR.

SO THE NUMBERS ARE PROBABLY NOT TOO FAR OFF IS WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT THEY'RE NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE DETAILS.

AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE YOU GOTTA FINE TUNE IT.

SO THAT'S WHY THREE OF THEM CAME BACK AT THE 12.51 CAME BACK A LITTLE BIT LOWER, BUT THAT WE'RE THINKING 12.5 TO THE, TO THE 15 TO ACCOUNT FOR ANY, UM, ADDITIONAL, UM, THINGS THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT, THAT, THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

NOT IN THE WAY I WAS HOPING IT WOULD BE ANSWERED.

NO, NO.

IT'S, THANK YOU.

IS NOT, AND, AND, AND WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER, OTHER CITIES AND THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING BASICALLY FROM GROUND ZERO, RIGHT? WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH THE VERY FIRST SYSTEM AND THERE'S JUST, THERE'S A LOT TO THAT.

SO, UM, IN THAT, IN THAT INSTANCE, MR. GRS.

OKAY, CAN YOU REMIND US WHEN, WHEN WE FIRST DISCUSSED THIS, I, I THOUGHT I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING WE WERE REALLY FARTHER ALONG THAN WE ARE.

SO, BUT DID, DIDN'T WE NOT DISCUSS HOW IS THIS GONNA PAY FOR ITSELF? WHAT IS THE RETURN, WHAT IS THE LONG-TERM BENEFIT TO DOING THIS? SO, UM, WELL THE LONG TERM BENEFIT IS, UM, UM, WATER MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS GONNA BE NEEDED.

BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE, WE'RE GONNA BUILD OUT THE BCRA, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 62 MILLION GALLONS.

AND AS THE COUNCIL FOR THE VISION OF THE CITY, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO WITH THAT? 62 MILLION GALLONS? MM-HMM.

, RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE 20 RANGE, UM, RIGHT NOW.

AND WE, WE HAVE A MAX OF 25 AND WE'RE CORRECTING THAT.

BUT IF YOU HAVE AN INDUSTRY COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, I WANNA USE 3 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, WELL THEN, YOU KNOW, NOW YOU'RE THIS AND, AND, AND, AND SO FORTH.

SO WITH GROWTH, YOU WANT MANAGE YOUR WATER.

AND SO, AND WE'VE MENTIONED THIS IN WATER CONSERVATION BETWEEN THE WINTER AND THE SUMMER.

IT'S 12 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

WELL, THAT'S THE WHOLE SANDY CREEK WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

IF WE COULD NOT DO THAT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BUILD ANOTHER SANDY CREEK WATER TREATMENT PLANT, 40 OR $60 MILLION.

AND

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SO THAT'S A HUGE SAVINGS, RIGHT.

IF WE COULD GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND NOT USING WATER.

AND I USE RON WAGONS AS AN EXAMPLE.

THEY WERE USING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WATER.

OF COURSE, THEY, ALL THE CITIES AROUND US HAVE AN AMI SYSTEM.

AND THROUGH WATER CONSERVATION, THEY WERE ACTUALLY USING LESS WATER THAN THEY WERE USING 10 YEARS AGO TODAY.

SO THROUGH CONSERVATION AND EDUCATION AND, AND AMI BEING PART OF THAT, THAT PROCESS, SO WE WILL GET A RATE OF RETURN, BUT I, I THINK YOU HAVE TO THINK OF THIS AS MORE OF A, I HAVE TO, I NEED A CAR AND I HAVE TO GET TO WORK AND IT'S A NECESSITY AND I WILL GET PAID AND I CAN PAY THE CAR OFF AND, AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE MONEY.

'CAUSE THE CITY MANAGER AND I TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ACCURACY OF METERING, ENSURING THAT WE'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, THAT BACK.

BUT AT THIS POINT, WE NEED TO, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO UNDERSTAND.

HOW DOES US SPENDING $15 MILLION SAVE US MONEY AND SAVE WATER? IT, IT HELPS US SAVE MONEY IF WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE OR AT ALL OR NEARLY AS FAST.

SO THAT'S ONE WAY.

UM, THE OTHER WAY IS WHEN, WHEN METERS GET OLDER, ESPECIALLY EIGHT INCH, SO WE HAVE SEVERAL, WE HAVE PROBABLY 28 INCH METERS AND SIX INCH METERS.

IF, IF THEY'RE NOT ACCURATE, YOU CAN LOSE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY.

SO IF A, IF THEY'RE NOT ACCURATE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, 2% OR 1% AND THEY'RE PUTTING IN TWO OR 3 MILLION GALLONS A DAY THROUGH THERE, WELL THINK HOW MUCH WATER THAT IS EVERY DAY THAT YOU'RE LOSING MONEY ON.

'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE AN ACCURATE METER IN PLACE.

NOW, THE SMALLER METERS, IT'S NOT AS CRUCIAL.

THE FIVE EIGHT SENSE, IT'S, IT'S LESS, BUT THE LARGER ONES ARE CRUCIAL.

AND WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THOSE IN THE CITY.

SO THAT WILL HELP, UM, WITH THAT MANAGEMENT AS WELL.

SO IF YOU DON'T BUYING CATHERINE, UM, I LIVED IN A CITY THAT HAS THIS MM-HMM.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD TOOL FOR THE RESIDENTS AS WELL.

'CAUSE I ACTUALLY HAD A LEAK THAT I WAS NOT AWARE OF.

, THEY TOLD ME I WAS USING FIVE GALLONS AN HOUR AND MY WATER BILL WAS JUST OUTRAGEOUS.

AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT 'CAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY UNDERGROUND.

SO, UM, THERE, THERE'S A BIG GOOD BENEFIT TO THEM, ESPECIALLY THE CONSERVATION PART.

Y YOU, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHEN YOUR WATER METER OR YOUR WATER BE, WHEN YOUR IRRIGATION COMES ON AND SO FORTH.

AND SO THAT HELPS PEOPLE.

AND THEN IF YOUR USAGE DOESN'T GO BACK TO ZERO, MEANING THAT YOU LOOK AT YOUR GRAPH AND IT'S ALWAYS HAS USE LEAK, THEN THAT'S AN INDICATION THAT YOU DO ACTUALLY HAVE A LEAK.

AND THEN THERE'S ALARMS AND FLAGS THAT WE CAN USE, BUT IT ALSO HELPS THE CITY FIND LEAKS.

UM, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE, USE THE TECHNOLOGY OF THE METERS TO SHOW IF THERE'S PRESSURES THAT ARE INADEQUATE IN CERTAIN AREAS AND IT MIGHT INDICATE A LEAK AND THEN WE, THE CITY CAN FIND IT SOONER AND FIX IT.

THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL ARTICLES I'VE TALKED ABOUT LARGER CITIES AND HOW MUCH REVENUE THEY LOSE THROUGH PIPE LEAKAGE, WHICH IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL IN, IN SOME AREAS.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK ON IS, UM, ENSURING THAT WE'RE FINDING LEAKS, UM, MORE QUICKLY AND REMIND ME THAT THERE'S NO COST TO THE CONSUMER TO REPLACE THESE.

WE'RE WE'RE FRONTING THE COST FOR THE, THE EQUIPMENT AND THE INSTALLATION.

HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, DAN.

HAVE Y'ALL ALREADY CONSIDERED WHAT THE COST WOULD BE TO REPLACE ALL THE METERS IN THE CITY THAT ARE OLD, THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED, UM, OVER TIME COMPARED TO WHAT IT WOULD COST US TO PUT THIS PROJECT IN PLACE? I DON'T KNOW IF WE LOOKED AT THAT IN THE, IN THE STRICTEST SENSE.

UM, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO FACILITATE GETTING THE WHOLE CITY DONE AT ONCE.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE, LIKE RIGHT NOW, WE, WE STRUGGLE.

WE, WE HAVE SOME THAT CAN BE A DRIVE BY.

I MEAN, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.

AND IN SOME MEETINGS WE'RE STILL MANUALLY READING.

I MEAN, WE'RE STILL HAVING PEOPLE GOING OUT THERE AND LIFTING THE LID AND WRITING THE NUMBER DOWN AND BRINGING IT BACK AND PUTTING IT IN A SPREADSHEET AND, UM, UM, THAT'S NOT IDEAL .

NO, THAT'S, THAT'S SUPER, THAT'S NOT IDEAL.

SUPER MATTER OF FACT, WHEN I ARRIVED I, I WAS LIKE, WOW, OKAY.

UM, AND YOU ALL REMEMBER JODY WHEN SHE HAD A BIG OLD SIGN IN HER OFFICE AND, AND SHE HAD A MAP OF THE CITY SAYING, YOU KNOW, AMI AND I WAS, SHE WAS THE ONE I FIRST TALKED TO WHO WAS LIKE, WE GOTTA GET THIS SYSTEM GOING.

I'M LIKE, YES MA'AM.

, WE'RE SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

GET US INTO THE 21ST CENTURY OR MAYBE AT LEAST THE 20TH.

BUT, AND I KNOW IT'S A, A HEAVY UPFRONT COST, BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THAT BEING A PRIORITY FOR THE CITY, WE CANNOT ATTRACT THOSE LARGE BUSINESSES IF WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE TYPE OF WATER THAT THEY NEED AT THE LEVELS THAT THEY NEED.

IS, IS WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING.

WELL, YEAH.

RIGHT NOW THERE'S CERTAIN, PROBABLY CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD HAPPEN.

AS, UM, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE BCA AND WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE.

IF, IF WE HAD THAT CAPABILITY, WE'RE WORKING ON IT FROM MULTIPLE MM-HMM.

FRONTS

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AND THEN WITH THE, THE CIP PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE WATER AND, AND JUST THIS AMI SYSTEM IS PART OF THAT INTERCONNECTION TO MAKE IT ALL TRY TO RUN SMOOTHLY.

AND, UM, AND I'M ALL ABOUT DATA.

AND, AND SOME OF THIS IS TO GIVE THE 90,000 RESIDENTS DATA SO THAT THEY CAN SEE WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON.

AND OURSELVES, RIGHT NOW WE CAN GET THE DATA, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, HANDWRITTEN SPREADSHEETS AND, AND WHEN WE TALK TO CUSTOMERS, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING A MONTH OLD DATA, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE ONLY GO LOOK AT THE METERS ONCE A MONTH AND WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN BETWEEN WITH THIS.

YOU CAN LITERALLY LOOK AT IT EVERY 15 MINUTES, UM, POSSIBLY AT CORPUS.

I LITERALLY TOOK MY GRAPH OF MY HOUSE AND SAID AT 12 O'CLOCK, DAN GREENSVILLE SPRINKLER COMES ON AND THEN IT TURNS OFF HERE AND THIS IS HOW MUCH WATER I USE.

I MEAN, IT, IT IS REALLY INFORMATIVE FOR THE, FOR THE RESIDENTS.

SO YOU NEED TO CREATE A SOCIAL MEDIA PROFILE FOR EACH OF THE METERS SO THEY CAN SHARE IT WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS.

ABSOLUTELY, YES.

I MUCH LIKE THE 10 DIFFERENT COMPANIES.

YES MA'AM.

SO, UH, I, IF YOU HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE, THE CONSULTANTS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, THEY'VE, THEY'VE UH, THEY'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL.

THIS IS, UM, A VERY COMPLEX 'CAUSE IT TOUCHES EVERY DEPARTMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT IN PARTICULAR, BUT, YOU KNOW, BUDGETING IT, PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING, UM, AND OF COURSE, AS TOMMY SAID, IT TOUCHES EVERY RESIDENT IN, IN THE CITY.

SO IT'S, UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS, MULTIPLE METERS, MULTIPLE WAYS YOU CAN DO RADIO FREQUENCY OR WIFI OR A COMBINATION OF OR, AND SO, UM, SO YES, UH, AND THE, THE CONSOLE HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN TRYING TO GET US TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE BEST WAY TO KIND OF TACKLE THIS.

WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT SIMPLE.

I MEAN, YOU CAN GO AS A SMART CITY AND, AND AND SEE IT AND YOU CAN HAVE YOUR CITY LIGHTS TURN ON AND OFF AND, AND, AND VALVES AND RUN ENTIRE SYSTEMS WITH IT.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE JUST WANNA GET THE BILLING AND EDUCATE PEOPLE ON HOW MUCH WATER THEY'RE USING.

SO WE'RE KIND OF REALLY FOCUSED ON AT LEAST THAT AREA.

AND THEN MAYBE FUTURE EXPANSION.

SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

SO I LOVE THE SYSTEM PERSONALLY.

I WANT ONE, THE COST GIVES ME HEARTBURN.

AND, UM, AND THIS IS WHY THE COST GIVES ME HEARTBURN BECAUSE WE'VE TRIED THE TIERED RATES ALREADY AND WE FIND THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN TIER THREE DO NOT CARE.

BY AND LARGE, THEY DON'T CARE.

THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY IT.

SO I DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO TUNE INTO THIS ARE GOING TO DO THAT.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY ON OUR END RIGHT NOW TO CONTACT USERS THAT ARE IN TIER TWO AND TIER THREE AND SAY, HEY, WHY DON'T YOU REDUCE THAT? AND WE'RE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT UP HERE AT COUNCIL A FEW TIMES, BUT IT'S STILL NOT HAPPENING.

AND SO I FEEL LIKE THIS IS SORT OF INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT OUR EFFORTS ARE.

AND I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, WE DO NEED TO BE ALL IN.

WE DO NEED TO BE CONTACTING THOSE CUSTOMERS NOW AND SAYING, THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US NOW, NOT JUST IN THE FUTURE.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO US NOW.

UM, I I IDENTIFY A LOT WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER PANAL PARKER SAID ABOUT THE, THE RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WE ANTICIPATE THIS REALLY BEING ADOPTED AND EMBRACED AND USED BY PEOPLE AND, AND HOW IT'S GOING TO PAY FOR ITSELF.

I THOUGHT YOU HAD A, A WONDERFUL THOUGHT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPLACE SOME OF THESE METERS OVER TIME ANYWAY, SO MAYBE WE'RE JUST SPENDING A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD CALCULATION TO INCLUDE IN THERE.

BUT I JUST HAVE A LOT OF HEARTBURN WITH TAKING OUT THE AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT WE'RE ALREADY TAKING OUT FOR UTILITY PROJECTS AND THE AMOUNT OF NEED THAT WE HAVE IN ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY, NOT JUST WITH WATER.

I, I HAVE HEARTBURN WITH ISSUING THIS MUCH DEBT FOR A SYSTEM THAT I'M NOT ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE.

WE ARE GOING TO DO A GREAT JOB OF GETTING PEOPLE TO EMBRACE.

AND I'M SORRY TO TO BE THE HEAVY ON THAT.

UM, I JUST NEED, I JUST FEEL LIKE I NEED MORE DATA.

IS THERE A POSSIBILITY TO, WE CAN'T DO IT ALL AT ONCE ANYWAY, RIGHT.

ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

IS THERE A POSSIBILITY TO ROLL IT OUT TO TWO AREAS THAT WE KNOW ARE GONNA BE HIGHER USE? LIKE TODAY I DROVE BY A CERTAIN HOA THAT WILL NOT BE NAMED THAT FOR OVER AN HOUR TODAY.

I KNOW THEY WERE WATERING LAKELINE, NOT EVEN JUST THE GRASS.

THEY WERE WATERING THE ROAD.

AND SO I'M WONDERING, CAN WE ROLL IT OUT TO LIKE THE HOA USERS WHERE WE CAN USE THAT DATA AND HAVE A PLAN WHERE WE SAY, WHEN WE SEE A METER GO UP SUPER HIGH ON, YOU KNOW, ONE SIX HOUR PERIOD, WE ARE SENDING OUT CODE ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THEM INSTEAD OF JUST DRIVING AROUND LOOKING FOR IT.

SORRY, THAT WAS A LOT.

NO, NO, NO, THAT WAS THAT.

IT WASN'T A LOT.

'CAUSE THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE ASKED INTERNALLY AND TALKED ABOUT AND HOW TO BEST DO THIS.

UM, THE DILEMMA WITH, WITH, WITH ANYTHING IS, UM,

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THERE WAS, THERE WAS A MILLION WAYS TO I LITERALLY COMPUTATIONAL WITH EVERY KIND OF DIFFERENT METER AND SOFTWARE.

AND THEN THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE IS, THERE'S A MILLION WAYS TO DO THIS.

SO WE CAN DO THIS.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO DECIDE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO AND THEN, AND THEN GO FORWARD WITH IT.

OR MY BEST EXAMPLE WAS IN CORPUS WE HAD THE SLUDGE ISSUE WITH THE WATER PLANT AND THEY TALKED ABOUT IT FOR 15 YEARS.

, I DON'T WANNA DO THAT.

AND THE GLUE GOONS ALL, AND THE PLANT WAS ABOUT READY TO SHUT DOWN.

SO I HAD TO DO AN EMERGENCY MEMO AND I STILL GOT, WELL, THERE'S A BETTER MOUSE TRAPP, THERE'S A BETTER MOUSE TRAPP, THERE'S A BETTER MOUSETRAP.

AND AT SOME POINT I JUST SAID, WE'RE DONE.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THIS IS THE PLAN, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA COST.

AND, UH, COUNCIL HAD TO GET ON BOARD WITH IT BECAUSE THE PLANT WAS GONNA SHUT DOWN A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

BUT LITERALLY THE CITY ENGINEER WAS SO THANKFUL THAT WE, SOMEONE CAME IN AND SAID, NO MORE, NO MORE MOUSETRAPS.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND UM, HE WAS VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

AND OF COURSE THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

AND, AND IT'S ON TRACK AND THE PROJECT'S GOING FORWARD AND THE PLANT'S RUNNING GREAT.

AND OF COURSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.

THE FIRST THING I THIRD HERD HERE WAS FLOOD.

SO WE JUST DID THE YEAH.

WASTEWATER PLANT AND NOW WE'RE DOING THE WATER PLANT.

AND SLU SEEMS TO BE A, SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE AMONGST, AMONGST CITIES FOR, FOR SOME REASON.

BUT, UM, WE CAN, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT.

UM, THAT WILL, THAT'LL DELAY.

WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'RE STILL GONNA GET THE RFP THE WAY WE THINK WE NEED TO DO IT AND HAVE IT, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS MODIFY IT.

UM, IT'S, IT'S A TOUGH QUESTION, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW FAR DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? AND THEN ARE YOU TRYING TO GET A RERATED RETURN ON IT OR ARE YOU TRYING TO GET A SYSTEM IN THAT, THAT, UM, ALLOWS PEOPLE TO MANAGE THEMSELVES, MANAGE THE WATER US TO MANAGE THE WATER, MANAGE OUR, A UTILITY SYSTEM AS A WHOLE.

SO IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S A PROJECT WHERE YOU LOOK AT IT AND GO, IT'S MORE OF A NECESSITY THAN IT IS ABOUT US PAYING IT BACK.

IIII, IT'S ONLY A NECESSITY IF WE USE IT AS A TOOL THOUGH.

AND THAT'S MY FEAR, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO POUR ALL OF THIS MONEY INTO IT AT THE DETRIMENT OF OTHER, OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD BE FUNDING.

AND WE'RE GONNA SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE SOFTWARE, RIGHT.

CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANNA USE IT AND PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO CHOOSE TO USE, USE IT.

AND WE'RE JUST GONNA SAY, OKAY, WELL IT'S OUT THERE IF YOU WANT IT.

LIKE, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING PEOPLE TO DO IT, TO USE IT TO, TO SAVE THE WATER.

MR. GRUPO, I THINK, UM, MADAM MAYOR, SAY SOMETHING, DIVE INTO SOME DETAIL THAT WE WEREN'T PLANNING TO, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, THE METERING ACCURACY, JUST FROM MY EXPERIENCE, AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME, AND I COULD GIVE YOU STORIES AFTER STORIES, THE LARGE METERS IN THE CITY, IF WE JUST REPLACE THOSE, IS PROBABLY GONNA PAY FOR THIS WHOLE PROJECT.

THAT'S WHAT I WANNA HEAR.

AND IT'S THERE, UM, MY ESTIMATION, AND THERE'S NO REAL DATA TO SUPPORT THIS, BUT JUST BASED OFF OF EXPERIENCE, IS THAT THE ENTIRE METERING POPULATION'S ACCURACY IS PROBABLY IN THE MID EIGHTIES.

AND SO IF YOU JUST TAKE THE TOTAL PRODUCTION VOLUME AND YOU LOOK AT THAT AND YOU LOOK AT HOW MUCH AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUT THESE IN INITIALLY, THIS, THIS IS, AGAIN, I'M GOING INTO SOME DETAIL THAT I, BUT THE CUSTOMER BILLS ARE GONNA SPIKE.

AND THEY'RE GONNA GO UP AND THE BEHAVIOR CHANGES AND IT COMES DOWN AND IT LEVELS OFF.

AND SO WHAT YOU SEE IN ALL THAT PROCESS IS THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE ENGAGEMENT AND THERE'S AN INITIAL SPIKE AND LEVEL OF EFFORT, PEOPLE PROCESS AND YOU PLAN FOR ALL OF THAT SO THAT WHEN IT HAPPENS, YOU'RE ADDRESSING IT AND YOU'RE EDUCATING, YOU'RE TEACHING.

AND THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THIS.

LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU SAID ON THE ROLLOUT, I MEAN I HAVE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO DO IT IN STAGE GATE FASHION WHERE YOU GO REPLACE SOME LARGE METERS, DO A TEST, YOU KNOW, PRE-POST, WHAT HAVE YOU, AND SEE WHAT THE REVENUE INCREASE IS AND EXTRAPOLATE THAT OVER THE POPULATION TO SEE WHAT IT MIGHT BE.

UM, THERE HASN'T BEEN AN ACTIVE TESTING PROGRAM IN THE CITY.

THERE'S NOT A REPAIR AND CALIBRATION PROGRAM IN THE CITY.

AND THERE ARE VERY OLD METERS WITH MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF GALLONS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THEM.

AND IT'S JUST INTUITION AND EXPERIENCE WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT REPLACEMENT IS GOING TO MORE THAN PAY FOR THE OVERALL PROJECT LONG TERM, WHICH THEN STARTS FUNNELING MONEY INTO THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU NEED.

IT IS, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE CLIENTS I'VE WORKED WITH IN, IN THE, IN THE WORLD, REALLY, I CAN TELL YOU THE ACCURACY OF THE METERS HERE ARE NOT THAT HIGH.

AND SO IT JUST KEEPS GOING.

AND THEN WITH THE SUSTAINABLE OPERATIONS, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS DAN ASKED FOR WHEN ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS IS YOU START PUTTING IN THESE PROCESSES THAT HELP YOU MAINTAIN THIS AND YOU'RE ABLE TO KEEP THE ACCURACY UP, YOU'RE ABLE TO KEEP THE ENGAGEMENT OF CUSTOMERS UP, YOU'RE ABLE TO START EVOLVING YOUR SOPHISTICATION OF THE SYSTEM WITH MAINLINE LEAK DETECTION AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS.

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RELATIVELY SPEAKING AND REPLACING THEM, WHICH THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF.

DO WE REPLACE 'EM WITH ULTRASONIC METERS? DO WE REPLACE 'EM WITH MECHANICAL METERS, STATIC METERING, WHAT THE PROCESS IS, AND NOW WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE WRITING THESE SPECS.

SO TO GET THE VENDOR'S RESPONSE BACK AS TO WHAT THEIR SOLUTION, THEIR BEST SOLUTION BASED OFF OF OUR PARAMETERS ARE, WHAT THAT COST IS OVER THE TOTAL LIFECYCLE, WHICH IS AND ACCEPTED IN THE INDUSTRY 20 YEARS.

SO YOU LOOK AT THAT ENTIRE THING, ALL THE DIFFERENT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH UPFRONT CAPITAL, ONGOING OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, REFRESH COST, EVERYTHING THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

YOU LOOK AT THAT AND YOU COMPARE IT, COMPARE IT, YOU KNOW, TO THE TECHNICAL EVALUATION.

SO YOU'RE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT THE BEST FIT FOR THE CITY OF LEANER IS.

AND THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND, , THIS IS NO, I CAN'T GUARANTEE BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE ROLE, BUT JUST FROM EXPERIENCE THERE IS GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN ACCURACY IN ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET A, AN EXAMPLE, A GRAPH WITH THE DATA FROM A, A CITY THAT, THAT HAS HAPPENED TO LIKE A BEFORE AND AFTER? UM, WE COULD, I COULD.

YES, WE COULD TRY.

YOU KNOW, REALLY WHAT I WAS GIVEN AN EXAMPLE, I USED TO BE THE, UM, PERSON IN CHARGE OF THIS WITH THE CITY OF HOUSTON.

AND WE REPLACED 800 LARGE METERS, UH, ONE YEAR AND WE DID IT OFF OF COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS AND WE DID A PRE POST CONSUMPTION MONITORING AND WE HAD A PAYBACK OF FOUR MONTHS.

ON A ONE.

THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO SEE.

YEAH, SAME.

DRAW ME A PICTURE.

THAT'S ALL I WANT.

UH, CITY MANAGER TURNER.

MAD MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

UH, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, MR. SBO AND I HAVE HAD SOME VERY SPIRITED DISCUSSIONS, UH, ABOUT THIS AND I APPRECIATE HIS EXPERIENCE AND I HOPE HE WILL COME TO APPRECIATE SOME OF MY EXPERIENCE.

UM, WHAT I HOPE THAT WE DO AMONGST ALL THE DISCUSSION IS GET OUT ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS SO THAT WE CAN LOOK TO TALK ABOUT THOSE A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND ADDRESS THOSE.

I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPERIENCE, AND I'M SORRY, I FORGOT YOUR NAME, PLEASE.

TOMMY.

I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPERIENCE.

UM, BUT I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING SOME SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE WERE PUTTING DOWN SOME MINIMUMS INCREASES BASED ON THEIR ASSESSMENT OF OUR SYSTEM AS PART OF THE RESPONSE.

AND I KNOW THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF MITE DISCUSSION.

I KNOW THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT HE'S NECESSARILY COMFORTABLE WITH BECAUSE THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS TO CUR CURTAIL THAT USAGE.

UM, BUT I'M HOPING AS WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND THIS PROCESS MOVES FORWARD THAT WE CAN SOLICIT SOME SPECIFIC REVENUE INCREASES BASED ON MORE ACCURATELY READING METERS, EVEN THOUGH WE WANNA REDUCE THE VOLUME OF USAGE.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT LONG STORY SHORT, IF WE CAN GET YOUR CONCERNS AND LET US TAKE THOSE AS WE'RE TALKING AND, AND CONTEMPLATING THIS AND SEE IF WE CAN'T COME BACK WITH SOMETHING.

THE OTHER COMPONENT THAT DAN MENTIONED IS THAT THE FUNDING STRATEGY IS NOT FINALIZED.

AND SO I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE ALL OF THESE PIECES INTO THAT.

AND HE TALKED ABOUT DEBT SERVICE.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF OUR, WHO OUR FA IS FINANCIAL ADVISOR, EXCUSE ME.

UH, BUT THEY CAN WORK SOME MIRACLES TOO, SO THAT YOU'RE NOT PUTTING ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET AND YOU STILL HAVE SOME RESOURCES TO DO SOME OTHER PROJECTS.

GRANTED, THIS ALL HAS TO BE IN THE WATER AREA.

NEED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT THERE NEARLY AS MUCH.

NO, ABSOLUTELY.

CITY MANAGER'S SPOT ON.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THE COST WAS, WAS MAKE SURE THAT WE ABSOLUTELY BROUGHT IT UP SO THAT, UM, THE COUNSELOR KNEW THAT THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

AND THEN YOUR, YOUR CONCERNS WITH THE COSTS, AGAIN, IT, IT, IT'S, UM, IT'S A DIFFICULT PROCESS AND, AND HOW DO YOU, YOU KNOW, GO ABOUT GETTING IT IMPLEMENTED IS, IS, IS DEFINITELY TRICKY.

UM, WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THE, THE SOFTWARE AND, AND START IT, BUT IT, UM, IT, I I HATE TO PUT IN A, AN ENTIRE SOFTWARE AND THEN ONLY RUN, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED METERS BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE PUTTING A, YOU KNOW, AV EIGHT INTO A BICYCLE AND SAYING GO, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

FAIR.

SO, UH, UM, AND NOT DO IT TIMELY.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SPEND ALL THE UPFRONT MONEY FOR THE SOFTWARE AND GET ALL THAT ENGAGED AND THEN IT TAKES US, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS TO IMPLEMENT ALL THE METERS AND STUFF.

I THINK YOU LOSE A CERTAIN AMOUNT THERE TOO.

AND, UM, AND THEN SWITCHING OVER FROM MANUAL READS TO NOT HAVING TO GO OUT THERE TO CARS, TO HAVING IT ALL AUTOMATED, WE'LL SAY COST THERE, WHICH WE SHOULD SHOW, UM, BY NOT HAVING PEOPLE DRIVING OUT THERE LOOKING AT METERS AND REDIRECTING THAT WORKFORCE TO DO, UM, OTHER THINGS.

AND MAYBE EVEN GETTING RID OF SOME VEHICLES THAT, UM, WE DON'T

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SO THAT WOULD ALL BE GREAT.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SORRY TO THROW ALL THAT AT YOU.

IT DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY.

OH, GREAT QUESTIONS.

TODAY IS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND, 2023.

UH, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT AND PRESENTING THAT TO US.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WITH THAT, WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP AT 6 56.

PLEASE BE BACK AT 7 0 5 FOR OUR REGULAR MEETING.

GOOD

[4. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.]

EVENING.

AND THE TIME IS 7:07 PM AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL.

VIDANT GAR WILL BE PROVIDING THE INVOCATION, FOLLOWING THE INVOCATION.

PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE.

HELLO.

IN THE TAPESTRY OF HUMANITY, THERE EXISTS ONLY ONE UNIVERSAL RELIGION, THE RELIGION OF MANKIND.

REGARDLESS OF OUR DIVERSE BACKGROUND, CULTURES, AND BELIEF, WE SHARE COMMON THREAD THAT BINDS US TOGETHER FOR ONE HUMAN FAMILY.

I WANT TO READ A PRAYER THAT IS VERY POPULAR IN HINDUISM AND HAVE ROOTS EVERYWHERE.

MAY ALL BE HAPPY, MAY ALL BE FREE FROM ILLNESS, MAY ALL BE SEE WHAT IS AUSPICIOUS.

MAY NO ONE WILL SUFFER.

OH, PEACE, PEACE, PEACE.

IF EVERY, EVERYONE CAN REPEAT AFTER ME.

OH, THANK YOU.

I PLEASURE TO FLAG FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH SHE STANDS.

ONE, THE NATION ABROAD, THE INVISIBLE LIBERTY.

NEED JUSTICE FOR ALL ON TEXAS.

FIVE I CLOSE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS.

ONE STATE NUMBER GOD, ONE IN INDIVISIBLE.

FIVE, CITY SECRETARY CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLE COUNCIL MEMBER CATHERINE BATTALION PARKER.

ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER

[5. Roll Call.]

HERE, MAYOR PROTI MKI LONGORIA.

HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD.

HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER NICOLE THOMPSON.

PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS ERNIE.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BECKY ROSS.

HERE, MAYOR CHRISTINE DELAL.

HERE, CORUM IS PRESIDENT CITY COUNCIL IS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS I NUMBER

[6. Administer Oath of Office to Interim City Manager Issac D. Turner.]

SIX.

WE'RE GOING TO ADMINISTER THE OATH OF OFFICE TO OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, MR. ISAAC D TURNER.

IS THIS ON? OKAY.

ALRIGHT, WILL YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? I ISAAC D TURNER.

HI, ISAAC D TURNER.

DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE CITY, OF LEANDER, OF THE OFFICE OF THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER.

I WAS GONNA GET THERE OF INTERIM CITY MANAGER OF INTERIM CITY MANAGER, EXCUSE ME, OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES.

AND OF THIS STATE.

SO HELP ME GOD.

SO HELP ME GOD, WELCOME THE LORD.

WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE YOU HERE, MR. TURNER.

WHAT'S A GROUP PHOTO RIGHT HERE.

ONE SIDE, GO ON ONE SIDE.

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ITEM

[7. Public comments on items not listed in the agenda. Public comments on items listed in the agenda will be heard at the time each item is discussed by Council. [All comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual.]]

NUMBER SEVEN, NON AGENDA ITEM AND RECOGNITION AND PROCLAMATION, PUBLIC COMMENTS.

FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, I WILL CALL ON SPEAKERS PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE AGENDA ITEM AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED COMMENTS VIA THE WEBSITE WILL ONLY HAVE POSITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD.

ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE COUNSEL AND WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD.

UH, IF YOU STILL HAVE A CARD THAT YOU NEED TO TURN IN TO SPEAK, THIS IS THE TIME.

SO FIRST UP, WE HAVE JAMES DEAN.

GOOD EVENING, MR. DEAN, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

UH, MY NAME IS JAMES DEAN, MY PARTNER FRED SMITH, AND I LIVE AT 25 13 COSTA DEL SOUL, RIGHT HERE IN LEANER TEXAS.

FIRST I WANT TO WELCOME OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

UH, YOU HAVE A VERY IMPRESSIVE RESUME WITH A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO COME HERE AND WORK WITH US IN LEANER.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

I ALSO WANT TO TAKE NOTICE, IT'S INCREDIBLE, THESE PROCLAMATIONS AND THE DIVERSITY AND THE INCLUSION AND THE WELCOME THAT WE EXTEND TO EACH OTHER IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE THAT.

UM, NOT SO MANY YEARS AGO, THAT WASN'T WHAT WE SAW.

WE HAD INCIDENTS AT THE LIBRARY, UNFORTUNATELY, AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPENED.

BUT MAYOR CHRISTINE IS DOING AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF LEADERSHIP AND BRINGING OUR COUNCIL TOGETHER AND BRINGING OUR CITY TOGETHER AND WELCOMING ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I ALSO WANT TO TAKE SPECIAL NOTICE OF VETERANS DAY.

UM, MY FAMILY, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN MY FAMILY THAT'S, THAT CURRENTLY SERVE, UH, AND ALL BRANCHES OF THE SERVICE.

UM, AND ANY VETS HERE IN LEANDER, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND EXTEND THAT TO YOU.

UM, AND I AS WRAPPING UP, I DO WANT TO MENTION, IF YOU'RE AN LGBTQ PLUS PERSON IN THIS COMMUNITY, IF YOU'RE AN LGBTQ PLUS CHILD IN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, IT GETS BETTER DAY BY DAY.

WE'RE WORKING TO MAKE LEANDER MORE INCLUSIVE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, UM, WE'VE HAD TWO SUICIDES IN OUR NEIGHBORING SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND WE WANT TO WORK SO THAT THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN EVER AGAIN.

AND ALSO THIS PAST YEAR, WE HAD THE HATE CRIME, MURDER OF AKIRA ROSS IN NEARBY CEDAR PARK.

THINK OF THAT.

YOU'RE JUST A PERSON STOPPING AT THE CONVENIENCE STORE TO GET SOME GAS AND WHATEVER YOUR FAMILY NEEDS AT HOME, AND SOMEONE YELLS TERRIBLE THINGS AT YOU AND KILLS YOU RIGHT THERE AT A NEIGHBORING GAS STATION.

CERTAINLY LEANER IS BETTER THAN THAT.

THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE COME TO MEET HERE AND THE FRIENDS THAT I'VE MADE HERE ARE BETTER THAN THAT.

AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

OH, CAN'T DO THAT.

UH, OKAY.

I'M SO SORRY IF I SAY THIS WRONG.

RAO, SORRY.

ALL OF ITS RESIDENTS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR CULTURAL OR RELIGIOUS BACKGROUNDS.

PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

SURE.

UH, MY NAME IS RAO.

I LIVE IN 1 7 1 3 HOLLABACK DRIVE, LEANDER, TEXAS.

UH, GOOD EVENING TO EVERYBODY.

CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.

UH, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF LEANDER FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS NOW, AND IT'S BEEN ONLY WONDERFUL.

BEFORE THAT, I WAS IN PITTSBURGH FOR 23 YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN, I SHOULD SAY I'VE BEEN LUCKY IN BEING IN PLACES THAT HAVE BEEN VERY INCLUSIVE.

THE CITY OF LEANDER.

ACKNOWLEDGING AND ISSUING A DIWALI PROCLAMATION IS SIGNIFICANT FOR SEVERAL COMPELLING REASONS.

DIWALI, ALSO KNOWN AS THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS, IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT AND WIDELY CELEBRATED FESTIVALS IN THE INDIAN SUBCONTINENT AND AMONG INDIAN COMMUNITIES WORLDWIDE.

DIWALI IS NOT JUST A RELIGIOUS FESTIVAL, BUT ALSO A CULTURAL CELEBRATION.

IT MAKES THE VICTORY OF LIGHT OVER DARKNESS, GOOD OVER EVIL, AND KNOWLEDGE OVER IGNORANCE BY ISSUING A PROCLAMATION.

THE CITY HONORS THESE UNIVERSAL VALUES THAT RESONATE WITH PEOPLE OF ALL BACKGROUNDS IN A TIME WHEN DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION ARE VITAL FOR SOCIAL HARMONY AT THE VALLEY.

PROCLAMATION LIKE THIS SERVES A SYMBOL OF UNITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

IT HIGHLIGHTS THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND VALUE

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FESTIVALS LIKE THE VALLEY OFTEN INVOLVE CELEBRATIONS, CULTURAL EVENTS, AND LOCAL BUSINESSES OFFERING SPECIAL PRODUCTS OR SERVICES.

RECOGNIZING THE VALLEY CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND ATTRACT VISITORS INTERESTED IN, IN EXPERIENCING THE FESTIVITIES.

IN FACT, WE WILL BE HAVING OUR VERY FIRST LIVE LEANDER, THE VALLEY FESTIVAL THIS SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 4TH AT THE LAKEWOOD PARK.

WE WILL BE DELIGHTED TO SEE ALL OF YOU THERE, UH, ON, ON SATURDAY.

LEANO, LIKE MANY CITIES, IS INCREASINGLY BECOMING DIVERSE WITH RESIDENTS FROM VARIOUS COUNTRIES AND CULTURES.

RECOGNIZING THE VALLEY ALIGNS THE CITY WITH A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE, SHOWCASING ITS OPENNESS TO THE WORLD AND ITS RESPECT FOR THE INTERNATIONAL TRADITIONS.

IN CONCLUSION, ACKNOWLEDGING AND ISSUING THE VALLEY PROCLAMATION IN LEANA DEMONSTRATES THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO RECOGNIZING THE DIVERSE CULTURES AND TRADITIONS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE VIBRANT TAPESTRY OF LEAN'S COMMUNITY.

IT SENDS A POWERFUL MESSAGE OF INCLUSIVITY, WELCOMING INDIVIDUALS FROM VARIOUS BACKGROUNDS AND FOSTERING A SENSE OF BELONGING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO FOR US.

PROCLAMATIONS AND VISITORS.

OKAY, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, RECOGNITIONS,

[8. Recognitions/Proclamations/Visitors. Diwali Proclamation American Indian Heritage Proclamation (November) Small Business Saturday Proclamation (November 25) Honorary Admiral in Texas Navy recognition of Kip Harmon ]

FIRST UP, WE HAVE A DIWALI PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS THE HINDU AMERICAN FOUNDATION AND OVER 1 BILLION CELEBRANTS WORLDWIDE REVERENTLY OBSERVE HINDU HERITAGE MONTH OF OCTOBER, 2023.

AND THE FESTIVAL OF DIWALI CAN OCCUR ANYWHERE FROM MID-OCTOBER TO MID-NOVEMBER.

AND WHEREAS DIWALI, THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS SYMBOLIZING THE VICTORY OF DHARMA AND GOOD OVER EVIL IS ONE OF THE MOST CELEBRATED FESTIVALS OF GREAT SIGNIFICANCE OF HINDUS, SIKHS, JANE'S A BUDDHIST.

AND WHEREAS DIWALI FALLS ON SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH THIS YEAR IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LUNAR CALENDAR AND BRINGS TOGETHER FAMILIES, FRIENDS, AND COMMUNITIES HERE IN THE US AND AROUND THE GLOBE IN GOODWILL, PEACE, AND A SHARED SENSE OF RENEWAL.

AND WHEREAS ALI IS A TIME FOR, I'M SORRY, IS IT DANA? DONNA.

DONNA, THANK YOU, DONNA.

CHARITABLE GIVING AND A CELEBRATION THAT UNITES PEOPLE FROM EVERY NOOK AND CORNER OF THE COUNTRY, IRRESPECTIVE OF RELIGION AND CASTE.

AND WHEREAS THE SHARED INDIAN FESTIVAL OF ALI AND HINDU HERITAGE MONTH SIGNIFIES A SPECIAL TIME OF PEACE AND SERENITY TO EMBRACE ONE ANOTHER WITH JOY AND LAUGHTER.

THE FESTIVAL IS CELEBRATED WITH AN ERA OF FRIENDLINESS AND HOLDS AN AURA OF PURITY.

NOW, THEREFORE, I MAYOR CHRISTINE DELAL DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE RELIGIOUS AND HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF ALI, THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS AND ALI'S MESSAGE OF TOLERANCE, COMPASSION, AND THE VICTORY OF GOOD OVER EVIL, KNOWLEDGE OVER IGNORANCE AND SACRIFICE OVER GREED AND WITNESS THEREOF.

I HAVE HERE TOO SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF LEANDER TO BE AFFIXED ON NOVEMBER 2ND, 2023.

AND MR. GARG, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE SOME COMMENTS.

THANK DO.

ARE FORGIVENESS, SHAMA, COMPASSION, KPA, AND EQUALITY SHTA ON THIS SUSPICIOUS OCCASION OF DIWALI, MAY WE BE INSPIRED BY THE PROFOUND WISDOM OF THE HERATH.

WE ARE GATHERED HERE TO CELEBRATE THE JOYOUS OCCASION OF DIWALI.

LET US TAKE A MOMENT TO REFLECT UPON THE PROFOUND WISDOM ENCAPSULATED IN THE CONCEPT OF DHARMA.

I'M GONNA READ FEW LINES AND S AND I'LL EXPLAIN.

I WOULD LIKE TO DRAW THE INSPIRATION FROM THE ANCIENT EPIC OF RAMAN WHERE WE, UH, OUT OF HIS DEEP LOVE AND CONCERN FOR LORD RAM EXPRESS HIS WORRY UPON SEEING RAMAN, HIS BROTHER, WELL IN A WELL-EQUIPPED CHARIOT IN THE BATTLEFIELD.

AND QUESTION MY LORD, HOW WILL YOU WIN THIS, UH, BATTLE AGAINST THIS FORMIDABLE ENEMY WITHOUT A CHARIOT IN THIS POINT? MOMENT, LORD RAM, REVEAL THE PROFOUND TRUTH.

LORD RAM TEACHES US THE TRUE CHARIOT OF LIFE IS THE STRENGTH OF OUR CHARACTER AND THE PRINCIPLES WE UPHOLD.

THE OF THIS DMAR ARE SYMBOLIC OF VALOR AND BRAVERY, SOGE, PATIENCE AND RESILIENCE.

THE CHARIOT PROFOUNDLY BEARERS THE FLAG OF TRUTH, SATYA, HONESTY, AND GOOD CHARACTER.

SHE THE FOUR MAGNIFICENT HORSES THAT PULL THE CHARIOT REPRESENTS THE STRENGTH, BALL, WISDOM AND RATIONALITY.

WE WAKE SELF-RESTRAINT AND CONTROL THEM DESIRE TO GOOD, UH, TO GOOD, UH, TO DO GOOD FOR OTHERS.

THE REIGNS THAT GUIDES THESE VIRTUOUS HORSES

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LET US TAKE THIS MESSAGE TO OUR HEART.

AND REMEMBER, THIS PRINCIPLE CAN HELP US OVERCOME THE OBSTACLES IN OUR LIFE.

HAPPY DIWALI TO YOU ALL.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR ESTEEMED MAYOR, UH, OUR RESPECTED CITY COUNCIL, AND EVERYONE WHO HAVE COME UP HERE TO SUPPORT US.

PLEASE REMEMBER TO JOIN US ON NOVEMBER 4TH, UH, ON LEANER THE VALLEY FESTIVAL AT LAKEWOOD PARK.

SEE YOU ALL THERE.

THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH.

UP NEXT WE HAVE AMERICAN, HER AMERICAN INDIAN HERITAGE MONTH PROCLAMATION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PANAL PARKER.

LET IT QUIET DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

THE DAKOTAS ARE HOME TO 14 TRIBAL NATIONS.

WHEREAS THE HISTORY AND CULTURE OF OUR GREAT NATION HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY INFLUENCED BY AMERICAN INDIANS AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.

AND WHEREAS THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF AMERICAN INDIANS HAVE ENHANCED THE FREEDOM, PROSPERITY, AND GREATNESS OF AMERICA TODAY, AND WHEREAS THEIR CUSTOMS AND TRADITIONS ARE RESPECTFULLY AND CEL ARE RESPECTED AND CELEBRATED AS PART OF A RICH LEGACY THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.

AND WHEREAS NATIVE AMERICAN AWARENESS WEEK BEGAN IN 1976, AND RECOGNITION WAS EXPANDED BY CONGRESS AND APPROVED BY PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH IN AUGUST, 1990, DESIGNATED THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER AS NATIONAL AMERICAN HERITAGE, AMERICAN INDIAN HERITAGE MONTH.

AND WHEREAS IN HONOR OF NATIONAL AMERICAN INDIAN HERITAGE MONTH COMMUNITY CELEBRATIONS AS WELL AS NUMEROUS CULTURAL, ARTISTIC, EDUCATIONAL AND HISTORICAL ACTIVITIES HAVE BEEN PLANNED.

NOW, THEREFORE, I MAYOR CHRISTINE DELLY, THIS IS NOT WORKING.

IS IT CUT OFF? IT JUST KEEPS GOING.

THERE WE GO.

WHOA.

, UM, DOES NEARBY, DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER AS NATIONAL AMERICAN INDIAN HERITAGE MONTH IN LEANDER AND WITNESS THEREOF? I HAVE HEARING TO SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF LEAN CITY, OF LEANDER TO BE AFFIXED ON NOVEMBER 2ND, 2023.

AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE HERE TO, UM, TO BE IN THE PICTURE, BUT WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THAT WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.

YES, PLEASE.

WE HAVE OUR, OUR DAUGHTERS OF THE REPUBLIC OF NOT DAUGHTERS OF THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS, DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, OUR SAN GABRIEL CHAPTER.

I KNOW I'M A MEMBER OF BOTH.

IT JUST COMES OUT .

UM, GOOD EVENING, I'M SUZANNE JORDAN.

I AM THE SAN GABRIEL CHAPTER DAR REGISTRAR AND THE CHAIR OF THE AMERICAN INDIANS COMMITTEE FOR OUR CHAPTER.

ON BEHALF OF SAN GABRIEL CHAPTER DARI THANK COUNCIL MEMBER CATHERINE ITALIAN PARKER FOR INTRODUCING AND READING THE PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL AMERICAN INDIAN HERITAGE METHOD.

THAT'S A MOUTHFUL.

ON THIS DAY, 134 YEARS AGO, NORTH AND SOUTH DAKOTA BECAME OUR COUNTRY'S 39TH AND 49TH 40TH STATES.

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THEREFORE, THIS DAY IS VERY APPROPRIATE FOR THE READING OF THIS PROCLAMATION.

ST.

GABRIEL DAR APPRECIATES THE CITY COUNCIL'S CONTINUED WORK TO MAKING LEANDER A PLACE YOU WANT TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK, AND I THINK WE CAN TAKE A PICTURE AND YOU THANK YOU.

UP NEXT, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MACHI LONGORIA, CITY OF LEANDER PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS THE GOVERNMENT OF LEANDER TEXAS CELEBRATES OUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS THEY MAKE TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND COMMUNITY.

AND WHEREAS ACCORDING TO THE US SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, THERE ARE 33.2 MILLION SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE UNITED STATES.

SMALL BUSINESSES REPRESENT 99.7% OF FIRMS WITH PAID EMPLOYEES.

SMALL BUSINESSES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 62.7% OF NET NEW JOBS CREATED SINCE 1995.

AND SMALL BUSINESS BUSINESSES EMPLOY 46.4% OF THE EMPLOYEES IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND WHEREAS 68 CENTS OF EVERY DOLLAR SPENT AT A SMALL BUSINESS IN THE UNITED STATES STAYS IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

AND EVERY DOLLAR SPENT AT SMALL BUSINESSES CREATES AN ADDITIONAL 48 CENTS IN LOCAL BUSINESS ACTIVITY AS A RESULT OF EMPLOYEES AND LOCAL BUSINESSES PURCHASING LOCAL GOODS AND SERVICES.

AND WHEREAS 72% OF CONSUMERS REPORTED THAT SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY 2022, MADE THEM WANNA SHOP AND DINE AT SMALL, INDEPENDENTLY OWNED RETAILERS AND RESTAURANTS ALL YEAR LONG.

AND WHEREAS LEANER SUPPORTS OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT CREATE JOBS, BOOST OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND PRESERVE OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND WHEREAS ADVOCACY GROUPS AS WELL AS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE ENDORSED THE SATURDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING AS SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, CHRISTINE IL MAYOR DO HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 25TH, 2023 AS SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY AND URGE THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES AND MERCHANTS ON SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY AND TO SHOP THROUGHOUT, SHOP SMALL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND WITNESS THEREOF.

I HAVE HEREON TO SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF LEANDER TO BE AFFIXED ON NOVEMBER 2ND, 2023.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM HERE.

UH, LIAISONS FOR THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND WE HAD A SURPRISE, UM, RECOGNITION, UH, THAT TOOK PLACE AT THE LAST MEETING, AND I FELT IT APPROPRIATE THAT WE SHARE THAT HERE BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF SPECIAL.

SO I AM DOING THIS ON THE FLY.

MY NAME IS NICOLE VANCE.

I AM WITH THE CITY OF LEANDER.

I AM PART OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, AND AS PART OF MY JOB, ATTRACTING BUSINESSES IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

AND I UNDERSTAND FULLY THE IMPACT THAT SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY.

WE WELCOME ALL OF THEM.

WE WORK REALLY HARD TO OBTAIN THEM AND KEEP THEM IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE APPRECIATE THEIR PRESENCE.

SO ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF LEANDER, I'M GONNA RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION.

UM, I THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THAT FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

AND LASTLY, WE HAVE A RECOGNITION AND COUNCIL MEMBER PENTAL PARKER, WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE US HERE? SO, YES, UM, I'M ONE OF THE,

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UM, SO SOMEONE YOU ALL KNOW AND LOVE TO KNOW HER IS TO LOVE HER.

KAT HOWELL, ALSO FROM DAR NOT RELATED TO THIS, THIS, UM, UM, SITUATION, BUT, UM, WE, WE LOVE HER AND SHE'S GOT SOMETHING SPECIAL TO SHARE.

AND KATT, I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT FROM THERE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

KI HARMON, CAN YOU PLEASE COME UP HERE? UM, AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, I, I BELONG TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS BESIDES DAR AND DRT, AND, UH, ONE OF MY MOST FAVORITE ORGANIZATIONS IS THE TEXAS NAVY.

UH, THE TEXAS NAVY WAS OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED AS THE OFFICIAL, UM, ORGANIZATION FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, THE THIRD TEXAS NAVY IN, UH, ON APRIL 21ST, 1958.

THEY WERE OFFICIALLY COMMISSIONED BY THE GOVERNOR.

UH, THE CEREMONY WAS HELD AT THE SAN JACINTO MONUMENT, AND IT WAS HELD RIGHT BEFORE THE CEREMONY WHEN THE UNITED STATES NAVY GIFTED THE STATE OF TEXAS, THE BATTLESHIP TEXAS, TO BE TAKEN CARE OF BY THE TEXAS NAVY.

SO I AM A MEMBER OF THE TEXAS NAVY.

I'M ACTUALLY AN ADMIRAL IN THE TEXAS NAVY.

AND THE REASON WHY THIS IS A SIGNIFICANCE IS THAT THE ADMIRAL STATUS IS THE HIGHEST AWARD THAT CAN BE AWARDED TO A TEXAS CITIZEN, A CIVILIAN OF THE TEXAS, UH, A CIVILIAN TEXAS CITIZEN.

AND TODAY I AM HERE TO HONOR MR. KIPP HARMON WITH HIS ADMIRAL CERTIFICATE FROM THE STATE, FROM THE GOVERNOR.

GOVERNOR ABBOTT SIGNED THIS, AND HE IS NOW AN ADMIRAL IN THE TEXAS NAVY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

YOU WANT A PHOTO? YEAH, YOU GET THE FULL HONORS .

[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ORDINANCE CASE OR DASH 23 DASH ZERO ONE.

MOVING ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

COUNSEL WILL BE CONSIDERING CONSENT.

AGENDA ITEMS NINE THROUGH 25.

THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

MOTION TO APPROVE A SECOND.

MOTION A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

UH, ITEM 26, THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.

ITEM 27,

[27. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Ordinance Case OR-23-0011 amending the Sign Ordinance to update Section 3.08.11 D. Sign Illumination to address illuminated white signs; update Section 3.08.12 A. Temporary Signs to add temporary neighborhood signs; and Section 3.08.013 Master Sign Plan; and provide for related matters; Leander, Williamson & Travis Counties, Texas. Discuss and consider action on Ordinance Case OR-23-0011 as described above. ]

AMENDING THE SIGN ORDINANCE TO UPDATE SECTION 3.08 D SIGN ILLUMINATION.

TO ADDRESS ILLUMINATED WHITE SIGNS UPDATE SECTION 3.08 A TEMPORARY SIGNS TO ADD TEMPORARY NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNS.

AND SECTION 3 8 3 MASTER SIGN PLAN, AND PROVIDE FOR RELATED MATTERS.

LEANDER WILLIAMSON AND TRAVIS COUNTIES, TEXAS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, GRIFFIN.

THEY'LL ADVERTISE WHAT SCHOOL DISTRICT THEY'RE IN, UM, IF THEY HAVE AN AMENITY CENTER, UM, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

UM, SO TONIGHT WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR SOME UPDATES TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE.

UM, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, WE JUST RECENTLY DID A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT OVERHAUL.

UM, AFTERWARDS WE REALIZED WE MISSED A, A HANDFUL OF ITEMS. SO NOW WE'RE HERE TO ADD THOSE ITEMS TO THE ORDINANCE.

UM, THE, THE FIRST ITEM IS, UM, UPDATING THE ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS SIGNS THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY WHITE.

UM, WE HAVE A, A PROVISION THAT SAYS ONLY, I GUESS YOU CAN'T HAVE A, A SOLID WHITE BACKGROUND WITH LETTERS IN THE CENTER OR SOLID WHITE LETTERS.

UM, WE HAVE OTHER PROVISIONS THAT WERE ADDED WITH OUR UPDATE TO HELP PROTECT AGAINST, UM, ISSUES WITH ILLUMINATION, UM, AND PEOPLE DRIVING CARS.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE THAT SECTION.

UM, WE ALREADY HAVE SIGNS THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY WHITE, SO IT'S REALLY HARD FOR US TO TELL CHASE BANK THEY CAN'T HAVE ONE AT THE HEB CENTER THAT ALREADY HAS ONE.

UM, SO WE FEEL LIKE THIS WAS A, A GOOD UPDATE TO THE ORDINANCE.

UM, THE OTHER ITEM WE HAVE, UH, INCLUDES NEIGHBORHOOD AMENITY SIGNS.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THESE IN NEW NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING UP THE MAIN BOULEVARD,

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UM, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE PUTTING THEM IN THE WRONG PLACE, SO THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OR THEY'RE OVER UTILITIES, AND WE RUN INTO SOME ISSUES WITH THAT.

SO THIS WOULD GIVE THEM, UM, A METHOD OF GETTING PERMITTED AND WE'D GET 'EM IN THE RIGHT SPOT AND THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED, SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO CODE ENFORCEMENT.

UM, SO IT WOULD BE A POSITIVE UPDATE.

UM, THE LAST ITEM IS UPDATING THE MASTER SIGN PROVISIONS.

UM, THIS UPDATE GIVES STAFF MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH, UM, INCREASING SIGN HEIGHT FOR DEVELOPMENTS.

AND, UM, THAT IS ALL FOR MY PRESENTATION.

I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

WE'LL NOW DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ORDINANCE CASE OR DASH 23 DASH 0 0 1 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY.

COUNSEL, MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL SECOND.

AND I JUST WANNA COMMENT THAT THIS IS WORKING EXACTLY THE WAY WE PLANNED IT, SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION.

YES, AND I ACTUALLY WAS GONNA SAY SOMETHING SIMILAR LIKE, THIS IS EXACTLY PERFECT.

I LOVE THAT.

EVEN THOUGH WE JUST HAD THE ORDINANCE, YOU'VE ALREADY SPOTTED AN ISSUE AND BROUGHT IT UP.

AND THAT QUICK PIVOT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE LOVE.

THIS IS GREAT.

SO THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

AGENDA, ITEM 28, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING APPENDIX, A ARTICLE A 7.000 UTILITY RATES AND CHARGES TO INCLUDE NEW WATER RATE CATEGORIES FOR THE FOLLOWING.

MOVING INTO OUR REGULAR

[28. Discuss and consider an Ordinance amending Appendix A, Article A7.000, Utility Rates and Charges, to include new water rate categories for the following – City of Georgetown, City of Liberty Hill, and City of Jonestown wholesale contract rates, affected customers pursuant to City of Georgetown and City of Leander CCN Settlement Agreement, Amended and Restated Agreement regarding creation of Leander Municipal Utility Districts (MUDs) Numbers 1, 2, and 3 and development of the Bar W Ranch, and customers affected by City Council action taken on April 4, 2019.]

CITY OF GEORGETOWN, CITY OF LIBERTY HILL, AND CITY OF JONESTOWN WHOLESALE CONTRACT RATES AFFECTED CUSTOMERS PURSUANT TO CITY OF GEORGETOWN AND CITY OF LEANDER CCN SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.

AMENDED AND RESTATED AGREEMENT REGARDING CREATION OF LEANDER MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS, MUDS, NUMBERS ONE, TWO, AND THREE, AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE BAR W RANCH AND CUSTOMERS AFFECTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

ACTION TAKEN ON APRIL 4TH, 2019, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE POWERS.

RE UH, EMPHASIZE THAT IF, IF YOU DO APPROVE THIS, APPROVE IT WITH THE AMENDED LANGUAGE THAT, UH, MS. CRABTREE HANDED OUT IN THE ES THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR, UH, READING THAT LENGTHY CAPTION.

UM, BEFORE I START, UH, MS. CRABTREE HANDED OUT, UH, SOME REVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED BY OUR LEGAL TEAM, A COUPLE OF ADDITIONS TO THE, WHEREAS RECITALS, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE TEXT, BUT IT MEMORIALIZES, UH, A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE FIRST DRAFT ON, UM, THE, UH, OVERALL PURPOSES OF THIS, OF THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.

AND THIS ORDINANCE DOES TWO THINGS, HOWEVER, ONLY ONE IS REALLY AN ACTION ITEM.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, THE CHART ON THE SCREEN, THE, UM, THE NOTE, THERE WE GO.

THE ACTION ITEM TONIGHT IS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE, UM, CHANGE IN THE RATE TO THE WHOLESALE CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN THAT THAT WATER CONTRACT WAS, UM, ENTERED INTO IN 2020.

UH, IN 20 APRIL OF 2022, THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN BEGAN TAKING WATER.

THE ONE OF THE PROVISIONS OF THAT, UH, AGREEMENT ALLOWS FOR, UH, CPI CONSUMER PRICE INDEX ADJUSTMENTS.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR UNDER THAT AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN APPLY THAT, THAT INCREASE, WHICH CALCULATES TO, UH, A NEW RATE OF $3 AND 11 CENTS PER THOUSAND.

SO THAT'S THE ACTION ITEM IN THE, THE ORDINANCE.

THE OTHER PART OF THIS ORDINANCE BRINGS ALL THOSE OTHER BLUE CIRCLES, WHICH REPRESENT PRIOR AGREEMENTS THAT THIS PREVIOUS CITY COUNCILS HAVE BEEN ENTERED, ENTERED INTO AS FAR BACK AS 2013 WHEN THE CITY ENTERED INTO A WHOLESALE WATER AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF LIBERTY HILL.

THIS ORDINANCE DOESN'T CHANGE ANY OF THOSE AGREEMENTS, IT JUST INCORPORATES THEM BY REFERENCE.

SO IT'LL, UM, MAKE IT EASIER FOR STAFF CURRENT AND FUTURE TO ADMINISTER THESE, THESE, UH, CONTRACTS.

SO AT THE, UH, SUGGESTION OF LEGAL COUNSEL, THEY THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THOSE OTHER AGREEMENTS BY REFERENCE.

DOESN'T CHANGE THE AGREEMENTS AT ALL, JUST INCLUDES THEM IN.

SO WE HAVE, UH, UH, ONE PLACE TO GO NOW AND IN THE FUTURE TO, UH, MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING ON TOP OF THOSE OTHER AGREEMENTS.

BUT THE ACTION, AGAIN, THE ACTION TONIGHT, UH, THAT AFFECTS ANYTHING IS HOPEFULLY YOU'LL APPROVE THE, UM, PRICE INCREASE TO THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN WHOLESALE RATE.

CURRENTLY IT'S SET AT THE ORIGINAL RATE, $2 AND 99 CENTS.

IT WILL CHANGE WITH YOUR APPROVAL TO $3 AND 11 CENTS.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

AND I, I'M SORRY, I JUST TO

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ONE MOTION TO APPROVE WITH YES.

WITH AMENDED LANGUAGE.

SECOND MOTION.

SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

29, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE AND CHANGE ORDER NUMBER TWO, WITH CHASCO CONSTRUCTORS FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION WIDENING AND IMPROVEMENTS OF RAIDER WAY AND EASTWOOD VIEW DRIVE, CIPT 0.12, INCREASING THE CONTRACT AMOUNT BY $61,655 AND $188,944 RESPECTIVELY FOR A NEW CONTRACT TOTAL OF $15,415,243 WITH NO EXTENSIONS OF TERM DURATION.

ITEM NUMBER

[29. Discuss and consider action on Change Order No.1 and Change Order No. 2 with Chasco Constructors, for the reconstruction, widening, and improvements of Raider Way and East Woodview Drive (CIP T.12), increasing the contract amount by $61,655.00 and $188,944.00, respectively, for a new contract total of $15,415,243.00, with no extension of term duration; and authorize the Interim City Manager to execute any and all necessary documents.]

AND AUTHORIZE THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE G GRIMMS BOW.

THIS IS THE, UH, UM, ENGINEERING'S, UM, KIND OF AS A REMINDER OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE PROJECT SCHEDULE.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL.

DAN GRIMS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND, UM, UH, YES, WE'RE GONNA, UH, TALK ABOUT, UH, OUR RIGHT AWAY AND, UH, ON CHANGE ORDERS AND KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT, UM, CURRENTLY.

SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE ORIGINAL SCOPE, UM, OF WHAT, OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND, UM, I HAVE SEVERAL PHOTOS THAT WILL KIND OF SHOW WHERE WE'RE AT.

SO IT'LL, IT'LL BE GOOD.

THE CHANGE ORDERS ARE TO ADD THE, UM, LINEAR FEET OF NEW CONDUIT.

UM, WE, WE PUT SEVERAL IN, BUT WE'RE, WE WANNA ADD MORE FOR THE FUTURE.

AND, AND ONE OF OUR ORDINANCE IS KIND OF POINT TO THAT, AND I'LL HAVE THAT ON THE SLIDE.

AND THE OTHER IS A GERM, UH, GEOTHERMAL PIPES, UM, THAT MUST BE LOWERED WHERE THE DETENTION POND WERE GOING.

AND I HAVE A ILLUSTRATION TO KIND OF SHOW, UM, WHERE THAT IS.

SO THIS IS THE, UH, KIND OF THE VISION ELEMENT THAT WE HAVE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, AND THE PLANNING WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE, UM, CONDUIT THROUGH THE CITY WHERE IT MAKES MOST SENSE.

IN THIS CASE, WE'RE ADDING SOME CAPABILITY OF FIBER AND ALSO FOR COMMUNICATION.

THE, AND YOU'LL SEE THE PHOTOS OF IT.

UM, THE REAL REASON FOR THE DUCTING IS TO, UH, LOWER THE PEC UH, POWER CABLES, UM, BELOW GROUND SO WE CAN EXPAND THE ROAD.

'CAUSE THERE JUST WASN'T ROOM THERE FOR ALL THE UTILITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE.

THE SECOND ONE IS THE, UH, GEOTHERMAL.

AND SO, UM, I DID DO A, A LITTLE RESEARCH 'CAUSE COUNCILS, UM, ASKED SOME GOOD QUESTIONS, UM, DURING OUR CONVER UH, DURING OUR PHONE CONVERSATIONS.

AND, UM, I HAD THE CONTRACTOR SEND ME ALL THE DOCUMENTATIONS THAT WE PROVIDED THEM VIA THE SCHOOL AND THE CITY.

AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE THIS UNTIL, UH, REALLY TILL RECENTLY.

SO LITERALLY HOW THEY FOUND THEM IS THEY RAN INTO THEM, AND I'M DIGGING UP THE DETENTION POND.

ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THEM FOR THE INITIAL, UM, EASE OR, UM, UTILITIES DID NOT HAVE, UH, THESE, UH, PIPES IN THERE.

AND THEY'RE REALLY LIKE PVC.

I WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT THE ONE WE HIT TODAY.

UM, THEY'RE PROBABLY ABOUT THREE INCHES IN DIAMETER AND THEY LOOP AND THEY GO DOWN TO THE GROUND SO THEY CAN TRANSFER HEAT OR COOLING, UM, FOR THE HVA SYSTEM.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, THIS IS WHERE THE POND IS ACTUALLY GOING OUTLINED IN RED.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE PIPING UNDERNEATH THERE.

UM, YOU CAN ALSO SEE IT'S OVER HERE.

UM, IT'S ALSO ALONG HERE.

AND SO WHEN YOU PUT THAT TYPE OF SYSTEM IN, UM, IT TAKES A LOT OF GROUND AS YOU CAN SEE.

AND I, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS WHERE YOU, IT'S NOT PUT IN VERY OFTEN 'CAUSE THE UPFRONT COST IS REALLY EXPENSIVE, BUT IT'S VERY EFFICIENT.

IT CAN LAST A LONG TIME.

SO IF IT RUNS A LONG ENOUGH, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET THE RATE OF RETURN FROM IT.

UM, BUT THE MAINTENANCE AND SO FORTH IS PRETTY LOW ON IT, BUT IT TAKES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, UM, GROUND.

SO IF YOU'RE GONNA EXPAND, THAT BECOMES MORE DIFFICULT.

UM, AS WE RAN INTO, UM, DOING THE RAIDER AWAY PROJECT.

SO IT WAS, UH, IT JUST WAS, YOU KNOW, AS I JUST SAID IN OUR CONVERSATION, IT WAS LITERALLY OVERLOOKED.

AND SO, UM, 98% NOT AIN'T BAD.

WE GOT ALL THE OTHER ONES, SO PRETTY GOOD.

UM, WE DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT FUNDING.

UM, FINANCIAL DEPARTMENT PROVIDED THIS TO KIND OF, UM, GIVE EVERYBODY A KIND OF A HEADS UP OF WHERE, WHERE THE FUNDING CAME FROM, UM, WHAT CEOS AND GEO, UM, CERTIFICATES OR BONDS WERE USED.

UM, WE ARE USING THE WATER IMPACT FEE BECAUSE WE'RE EXPANDING THAT 12 INCH WATER LINE.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO USE THAT FUNDING TO HELP SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

AND THEN THAT LITTLE TOP PART IS, UM, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE USING TODAY, WHICH IS THE 22 CO, BUT IT'S THE, UM, INTEREST RATE THAT WE MADE ON NOT USING THAT MONEY FOR THE HERO WAY PROJECT, SO WE CAN USE IT FOR THIS WORLD PROJECT.

SO THAT'S THE COMBINATION OF, OF FUNDS THAT'S SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT.

UM,

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AND YOU CAN SEE WE'RE, WE'RE ON THIS FAR END, UM, RIGHT HERE, UM, IN THE, UM, UM, CONSTRUCTION PHASE.

UM, PROBABLY A, A TADD EARLY.

UM, BUT, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY IT'S TRACKING WHEN, WHEN I GOT ON BOARD, BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

UM, UH, 2016 I THINK WAS THE, THE BOND FOR THIS.

SO YEAH, UH, UH, AS A REMINDER, UH, THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

UM, SOME IMPROVEMENTS.

THE WATERLINE GOING ACROSS, UH, THE FREEWAY THERE, UM, WITH THE CIRCLE AND THEN ALL THE WAY BACK DOWN.

THAT'S THE ONE POND WHERE WE RAN INTO THE THERM, GEOTHERMAL PIPING.

AND THEN THESE ARE THE OTHER TWO DETENTION PONDS THAT WE'RE, UH, PUTTING IN PLACE, UH, TO CAPTURE THE WATER.

UH, IT DID HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED BECAUSE OF THE ATLAS 14, UM, REQUIREMENTS THAT CAME INTO, UH, UM, APPROVAL.

SO I WENT OUT THIS MORNING AND, UM, TO GET THE VERY, UH, RECENT, UH, PROJECTS AND TO SEE THE, UH, GEOTHERMAL, UH, PIPING, UM, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I NORMALLY DO.

UH, GEOTHERMAL , IT'S, UH, SO IT WAS GOOD TO GO SEE IT.

UH, THIS IS THE ONE POND BY THE HIGH SCHOOL.

YOU CAN SEE HOW LARGE IT IS.

UM, THAT'S OUR, UH, SUPERVISOR INSPECTOR OUT THERE FOR SCALE.

THIS IS THE OTHER POND, UM, BY THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT WAS THE ONE THAT HAS THE GEOTHERMAL PIPING.

AND WHERE THEY HIT IT WAS ON THE FAR SIDE.

AND SO THEY STOPPED WORKING UNTIL THEY CAN, UM, FIND THEM AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA LOWER 'EM ALL, WHICH IS FINE.

IT GEOTHERMAL CAN ACTUALLY BE PUT INTO PONDS.

AND SO IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T HURT AT ONE BIT.

THAT'S JUST ANOTHER METHOD OF TRANSFERRING HEAT.

UM, I WENT IN, WE WENT IN EARLY TO SEE IT.

YOU CAN SEE THE, THE TRAFFIC.

IT WAS, UM, IT WAS PRETTY AMAZING.

UM, , I, I WOULD IMAGINE IT WAS WORSE WHEN THIS WHOLE SIDE WAS FULL OF TREES AND ON THIS SIDE AS WELL.

UM, BUT YOU COULD SEE THAT, UM, THAT ROAD IS JUST NOT ADEQUATE FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GENERATED ON THAT ROAD.

AND, UM, THERE WAS PEOPLE CROSSING, UH, TRYING TO GET OUTTA THE SCHOOL INTO HIGH SCHOOL.

AND THEY WERE, I MEAN, ALL THE PEOPLE WERE PRETTY COURTEOUS, BUT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, EVERYWHERE.

UH, OH, LEMME GO, LEMME GO BACK TO, SO I WANTED TO TAKE THIS PICTURE.

I DID IT ON PURPOSE BECAUSE I WANT TO SHOW THAT THESE ARE ALL THE TELEPHONE POLES AND, AND POWER LINE POLES AND, AND, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THE CONDUIT BELOW THE GROUND.

SO ALL THAT'S GONNA BE REMOVED, UM, IN THE FUTURE.

AND, AND IT ACTUALLY GOES BACK THIS WAY TO CRYSTAL FALLS.

SO THAT'S ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE END OF THAT ROAD.

AND THEN ALL THE WAY BACK THE OTHER WAY TO CRYSTAL FALLS, I WAS KIND OF NOT QUITE IN THE MIDDLE.

UM, I WAS MORE TOWARDS CRYSTAL FALLS WHEN I WAS THERE.

UM, THIS IS THE OTHER ROAD THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

AND THE SAME, UM, WE, WE HAD TO DO A LITTLE SLIDE OVER TO THE, TO THE RIGHT FOR THE BUS TO GO AROUND US.

UM, PRETTY AMAZING.

UM, BUT I TRIED TO TAKE THIS PICTURE, UH, KIND OF TO SHOW, UM, ALL THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE WATER LINE THAT'S GOING.

AND I HAVE A FEW MORE OF THOSE.

UM, HERE WE HAVE PROBABLY 15 PIECES OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT LOOKS SIMILAR TO THIS.

UM, WORKING ON VARIOUS STAGES OF THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS THE CONDUIT, UH, THE TENSION PONDS, THE WATERLINE PREPPING, UH, SOME OF THE ROAD, UM, ROAD AREA.

AND, UM, SO, UH, OUT THERE, UM, I WOULD SAY HITTING IT, HITTING IT HARD.

UM, THIS WAS FURTHER DOWN ON THE ROAD, UM, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE BUS WAS COMING IN AND THE WATER LINES CONTINUING.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY ACTUALLY ARE NOW TYING IT IN ACROSS THE FREEWAY ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE, OF THE, OF THE ROAD THERE.

AND SO THAT'S THE FINISH OF THE WATER LINE, CONNECTING TO THE MAIN WATER LINE ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE FREEWAY.

UM, AGAIN, MORE HEAVY EQUIPMENT, UM, GETTING READY FOR THE, FOR THE ROAD IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO, UH, UM, WITH THAT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL FOR THE, FOR THE CHANGE ORDER, SO WE CAN KEEP THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD AND, AND STANDING BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNSEL, I HAD A QUESTION JUST ON THE PICTURE YOU SHOWED THE DETENTION POND, JUST TO REFRESH MY MEMORY, HOW ARE THOSE, ARE THEY PAVED OVER ON THE TOP OR LIKE, HOW ARE THE KIDS PROTECTED FROM MESSING WITH ANY OF THAT? IT'S A LOT OF, WELL, I'M SURE YOU SAW THIS MORNING.

NO, IT'S ABSOLUTELY A GOOD QUESTION.

THERE ARE KIDS EVERYWHERE.

AND, UM, AND SO THEY, THEY MUCH LIKE, AND I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE SCHOOL OVER BY THE PUBLIC WORKS, UM, CAMACHO, IS THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL OR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? ELEMENTARY.

THEY HAVE A HUGE ONE OVER THERE.

FOR THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT TAKES THE DRAIN OFF.

A DETENTION POND THAT'S SIMILAR.

AND SO THE WALLS WILL BE, WILL BE CONCRETE, IT'LL BE OPEN, BUT IT'S DETENTION POND, MEANING THAT THE WATER WILL ONLY BE THERE

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SO IT WILL BE DRY.

BUT IT'LL ALSO BE, UM, ENTIRELY FENCED.

SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT'S OVER THERE.

UH, THEY HAVE A VERY LARGE DETENTION FACILITY TO COLLECT WATER FOR THAT SCHOOL AREA.

, I'M JUST GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

PERFECT.

SECOND.

MOTION A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT.

MOVING ALONG.

UH, ITEM 30, COUNCIL MEMBER, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ANY DELIBERATION OF OR DECISION ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF THE INQUIRY SHALL BE LIMITED TO A PROPOSAL TO PLACE THE SUBJECT ON THE AGENDA FOR A SUBSEQUENT MEETING.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING?

[31. Council Member Closing Statements.]

ITEM 31, COUNCIL MEMBER CLOSING COMMENTS.

PLACE ONE, I I GUESS WE HAVE VETERAN'S DAY COMING UP BEFORE OUR NEXT NEXT MEETING.

SO HAPPY YOU.

VE VE VETERAN'S DAY.

UM, BE SURE AND THANK A VETERAN FOR WHAT WE HAVE.

AND UM, I BELIEVE IT'S 10 O'CLOCK.

SOMEBODY NOD STARTS AT 10 O'CLOCK AT VETERANS' PARK.

SOMEBODY NOD.

MM-HMM, 10 O'CLOCK.

10 O'CLOCK AT VETERAN'S PARK.

I HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.

I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AT YOU.

YOU KNOW, ON SATURDAY.

I WAS GONNA MENTION VETERAN'S DAY, BUT THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND I'LL HOPEFULLY BE OUT THERE AND JUST WANTED TO REPEAT THAT.

LEANDER DIWALI WILL BE NOVEMBER 4TH THIS SATURDAY AT LAKEWOOD PARK.

UH, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GO, BUT I HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE AN AMAZING TIME.

PLAY SIX GOODNIGHT PLAYS FIVE.

HAVE A GREAT EVENING PLAYS WORK.

JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OUR VETERANS AND HOPE TO SEE YOU AT OUR, UM, EVENT THAT'S ON NOVEMBER 11TH AT 10:00 AM AT VETERANS PARK.

KEEP GOING.

VERY NICE.

ALRIGHT.

USUALLY WE TELL YOU TO SHOP LOCAL AND ALL OF THE MONEY THAT, THAT YOU CONTRIBUTE TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY STAYS IN OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.

UM, ABOUT 70% OF IT STAYS CIRCULATING AROUND HERE.

UM, AND WE HAVE PROCLAMATION TO THAT EFFECT TONIGHT.

BUT TONIGHT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO ADD IN THAT WE DID NOT GET DINNER FROM A LOCAL RESTAURANT.

OUR VERY OWN DEPUTY CITY SECRETARY PEMBRO MADE US WONDERFUL CHILI.

32, WE'RE GOING TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO NUMBER ONE, SECTION 5 5 1 0.074, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE THE ASSIGNMENTS AND DUTIES OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE, INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

IT WAS WONDERFUL AND IT WAS SO GOOD ON A COLD DAY.

SO, UH, UPCOMING EVENTS.

WE HAVE AGREED THUMBS UP, TALK ABOUT TREE PROBLEMS ON WEDNESDAY, NO, NOVEMBER 15TH AT THE LEANDER ACTIVITY CENTER.

AND AS YOU HEARD, OUR ANNUAL VETERANS DAY MEMORIAL CEREMONY SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 11TH, 10:00 AM AT VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK, RIGHT BEHIND THE LIBRARY AND SOME OTHER UPCOMING EVENTS.

UH, THIS MONTH, OUR ACTIVE ADULTS ARE DEFINITELY HAVING ALL OF THE FUN.

WHEN YOU GO TO THE PARKS PAGE, ALL OF THE UPCOMING EVENTS ARE VETERANS DAY AND ACTIVE ADULTS.

SO THEY'VE GOT CAMPFIRE CHAT THIS TUESDAY NIGHT AT 7:00 PM AT THE MASON HOMESTEAD PICKLEBALL EVERY THURSDAY MORNING AT 9:00 AM AT THE PACK.

AND YOU CAN CREATE A STILL LIFE WITH SOFT PASTELS TAUGHT BY LEAN'S OWN JENNIFER JONES OF JONES OF ART AT THE LEANDER ACTIVITY CENTER ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 15TH AT 1:00 PM.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU WILL JOIN US FOR ALL OF THOSE.

YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR THOSE@LEANDERTX.GOV SLASH FUN.

NOW, ITEM

[32. Convene into Executive Session pursuant to: 1. Section 551.074, Texas Government Code, to discuss assignments and duties of a public officer or employee: Interim City Manager; and 2. Section 551.074, Texas Government Code, to discuss or deliberate the appointment, employment and duties of a public officer or employee: City Manager search. Reconvene into open session to take action as deemed appropriate in the City Council's discretion regarding: Interim City Manager and City Manager search.]

AND NUMBER TWO, SECTION 5 5 1 0.074, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT AND DUTIES OF A PUBLIC OFFICER EMPLOYEE, INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

I THINK THOSE WERE THE SAME LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ONE DUTIES AND ONES EMPLOYEE SEARCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ONE OF THOSE IS ON THE SEARCH.