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WE READY HERE? YES, MA'AM.[1. Open Meeting.]
GOOD EVENING.TODAY IS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 16TH, 2023, AND THE TIME IS 6:00 PM AND THIS IS THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL.
[2. Roll Call.]
PLEASE CALL ROLE COUNCIL MEMBER CATHERINE BATTALION PARKER.AND HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD.
COUNCIL MEMBER NICOLE THOMPSON.
PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS CERNEY.
[3. Noise Ordinance update.]
UPDATE ON THE NOISE ORDINANCE.UM, BEEN WORKING ON A REVISION TO OUR CITY ORDINANCE, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN ANY SORT OF MAJOR REWRITES SINCE I STARTED IN 2003.
UM, SO THE INTENT HERE IS TO REDO THE LANGUAGE SO THAT EVERYONE IN OUR CITY KNOWS WHAT THEY SHOULD COMPLY WITH, AND THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY THEN TO GO IN AND ENFORCE IT.
UM, IT IS LAID OUT IN THE STRUCTURE THAT SHOULD ALLOW US AS OUR CITY GROWS TO BE ABLE TO ADAPT IT TO OUR NEEDS.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S COMPONENTS OF IT THAT WERE NEEDED THAT WERE IN THERE BEFORE.
SO ONE OF THE TWO THINGS IS INSTEAD OF HAVING A SINGLE MEASUREMENT AT A DISTANCE, WHICH DOESN'T MEET WITH, WE HAVE SOME HOUSES THAT ARE 30 FEET APART, AND WE DON'T HAVE A WAY IN UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE ISSUES THAT ARE OCCURRING.
SO WHAT THIS DOES IS RESTRUCTURES IT AND GIVES US AND A TABLE THAT IS BASED ON ZONES.
THERE IS ONE ZONE THAT'S IN THERE THAT'S BRAND NEW THAT HASN'T BEEN THERE BEFORE THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, BUT, UM, THE REST OF STAFF IS WORKING ON TRYING TO ADD THAT IN.
SO THIS IS JUST A BEGINNING PIECE TO GET US STARTED ON IT.
SO WHY I ASKED TO SPEAK WITH YOU IS FOR TWO ISSUES TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, OF COURSE, BUT THEN ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THESE PROPOSED LEVELS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY BRING IT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THE SECOND PART THAT'S IN IT, AND SHE SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED COPIES OF IT, IS LAID OUT FORMALLY A PROCESS WHERE ENGINEERING CAN GRANT A CERTAIN EXEMPTIONS AND TO SPECIFY WHEN IT IS REQUIRED FOR CITY COUNCIL TO BE INVOLVED TO GRANT EXEMPTIONS.
AND THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH BEFORE I PRESENT IT FORMALLY TO YOU.
WHERE WOULD PARKS FALL IN TO ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES? OR WOULD THEY UM, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY DISTRICTING SPECIFIC TO PARKS AS FAR AS I KNOW.
SO IF YOU HAD A PARK IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE, THEN IT WOULD BE UNDER THAT.
UM, BUT THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HAVE THIS TABLE BECAUSE IF WE NEED TO, SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN RESIDENTIAL, IF YOU HAD IN THE FUTURE YOU WERE LIKE, HEY, WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S FOR THESE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND THEN FOR THESE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREAS, AND IT GIVES YOU THE ABILITY THEN TO MAKE THIS AS COMPLEX OR AS SIMPLE AS YOU NEED IT TO BE.
DAVID, WERE YOU SAYING BECAUSE OF LIKE EVENTS AT AT THE LAKEWOOD OR CENTER? YEAH.
LIKE WE GOT, UH, BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION ABOUT A WEEK AGO, I GUESS.
WELL, I'M THINKING IN, IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT, THAT IS A, THAT IS NOT A, UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
SO IF WE'VE APPROVED THE EVENT, THEN THE NOISE GOES ALONG WITH IT AND IT'S REALLY NOT, UH, IT'S NOT A, THEY'RE NOT BREAKING AN ORDINANCE BECAUSE THE EVENT HAS BEEN APPROVED ALREADY.
ALREADY THROUGH THE PROCESS, THE APPROVAL PROCESS TO GET A PERMIT FOR THAT EVENT.
AND WE WERE NOT TRYING TO OVERCOMPLICATE ANY OF THAT, BUT JUST HAVE AN ABILITY TO WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH IT.
SO FOR THOSE OF US THAT HAVE NO IDEA WHAT ANY OF THESE NUMBERS MEAN, DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THESE CORRESPOND TO? LIKE WHAT WOULD BE THE DECALS OF LIKE CONSTRUCTION SITES? SO, UM, I DIDN'T BRING THE TABLE 'CAUSE THE ONE THAT I HAD FROM BEFORE, NOPE.
THAT'S THE ONE QUESTION THAT I WAS, WASN'T SURE IF YOU GUYS WOULD ASK, BUT IF YOU GET INTO LIKE A LAWNMOWER, THAT'S GAS.
A GAS LAWNMOWER WOULD BE OVER 85 DB.
NOT AN ELECTRIC, BUT A GAS LAWNMOWER WOULD BE OVER 85 DB.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY LIKE THE SIMPLEST WAY TO JUST TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT.
UM, THE NUMBERS WERE ALSO BASED OFF OF SOME OF OUR LOCAL CITIES AS WELL AS SOME IN THE DFW AREA THAT HAD ORDINANCES SIMILAR TO THIS FORMAT.
HOW WOULD THIS RELATE TO, AND HOW, HOW COULD YOU ENFORCE SOMEBODY DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AND YOUR CAR IS VIBRATING BECAUSE OF THE NOISE COMING OUT OF THEIR CAR AND HOW CAN YOU MEASURE THAT OR DO OKAY, IS THAT A VIOLATION? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
UM, WE DO HAVE SOME THINGS IN THE TRANSPORTATION CODE THAT ALLOW US TO DO THINGS FROM THE NOISE COMING FROM VEHICLES, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S FROM A MUFFLER, IF IT'S COMING FROM BASE SOUND, THEN THERE'S
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A SECTION THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE THAT IS STILL IN HERE THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO ENFORCE WHEN THERE'S BASE.AND IT'S VERY BASE IS VERY DIRECTIONAL, SO IT'S NOT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HEAR IT EVERYWHERE.
IT'S JUST GONNA BE WHERE IT'S POINTING AND IT'S BASICALLY WRITTEN IN THERE THAT IF THE, LIKE THE PICTURES ON THE WALLS ARE VIBRATING, IT'S TOO LOUD AND THAT'S PROOF.
AND THAT'S BEEN IN THERE THE WHOLE TIME.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY REALLY HELPFUL FOR THAT ONE SPECIFIC INSTANCE.
SO I USED TO WORK IN A CITY THAT HAD AN ORDINANCE THAT SET UP AS IF YOU COULD HEAR IT MORE THAN 30 FEET AWAY, THEN IT WAS TOO LOUD.
THAT APPLIES TO NEIGHBORS TALKING, THAT WAS THE VEHICLE.
SO IF A VEHICLE WAS IN A CAR WASH, UM, AND IT WAS AMPLIFIED AND IT WAS DISTURBING OTHER FOLKS THEN, BUT YES, THERE WAS AN ORDINANCE I WAS GONNA SAY WITH THAT, LIKE PEOPLE WOULD CALL ON MY KIDS ALL THE TIME.
TRYING TO FIND A GOOD BALANCE.
THIS IS TRYING TO FIND A GOOD BALANCE, BUT IT, BUT ALSO TO GIVE YOU THE FRAMEWORK AND THE STRUCTURE THAT AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT AS WELL AS WHO IT'S ENFORCEABLE AGAINST, WHICH WASN'T REALLY CLEAR BEFORE.
SO GOING BACK TO THE, THE LAWNMOWER EXAMPLE, YES, IF A LAWNMOWER IS 85, UM, BUT THE THRESHOLD IS GONNA BE 65 OR 10 OVER BACKGROUND NOISE, DOES THAT MAKE THE LAWNMOWER ILLEGAL? IT MIGHT ELECTRIC, BUT THE ELECTRIC IS WHAT YOU CAN USE AND IT'S GONNA BE WELL BELOW THAT LEVELS IT, IT HAS SOME POTENTIAL IN THERE FOR, FOR DOING THINGS.
BUT IT'S, THIS IS WHERE, HOW DO YOU FIGURE THAT OUT? AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING THIS TABLE TO YOU ALL BEFORE I ACTUALLY PROPOSE IT.
SO I MEAN, I THINK THE GOAL IS WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE BLASTING THINGS AT THEIR NEIGHBORS, BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO LET PEOPLE RUN THEIR GAS LAWNMOWERS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY TOO.
SO WHAT I CAN DO, UM, IS SEND YOU THE, THAT OLD TABLE THAT I HAVE THAT HAS A LOT OF REALLY GOOD EXAMPLES OF WHAT DIFFERENT NOISE LEVELS ARE AND SEE IF I CAN FIND SOMETHING MORE CONTEMPORARY AND I CAN SEND THAT TO DARA.
WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL? THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, I THINK.
AND EVEN IF YOU HAD IT BROKEN DOWN BY HOURS, LIKE UP THERE, UH, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE MOWING MAYBE SAY BEFORE 7:00 AM MM-HMM.
THAT'S WHY I HAVE THE DAY AND THE NIGHT THAT'S IN THERE.
SO, UM, IF YOU GIVE ME JUST A SECOND, I WILL PULL UP MY DEFINITION OF DAY AND NIGHT.
AND THEN I THINK, UM, SOME OF THAT ALSO IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE EQUATED TO CONSTRUCTION SITES BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH CONSTRUCTION THAT GOES ON, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IS ALLOWABLE WORKS.
BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THERE'S ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL AREA NEXT TO IT THAT'S DOING CONSTRUCTION, I'M GUESSING IF A GAS POWERED LAWNMOWER IS 85, THEN ALSO THE CONSTRUCTION PROBABLY IS.
AND WE DID, UH, WE DID ADDRESS THAT IN HERE.
SO LET ME ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION.
SO DAY IS DEFINED TO SHOW MEAN 7:00 AM TO 10:00 PM GREAT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE WENT OFF OF.
AND THEN FOR THE, IF YOU ARE, I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FIND IT EXACTLY, BUT I BELIEVE IF YOU'RE MORE THAN 200 FEET FROM AN OCCUPIED DWELLING, THEN YOU'RE GOOD FOR DOING YOUR CONSTRUCTION STUFF.
I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WOULD KEPT HIM HERE.
SO WHAT ABOUT WHEN SOMEBODY IS GETTING THEIR ROOF REDONE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD? THEY'RE NOT MORE THAN 200 FEET FROM AN OCCUPIED DWELLING.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE NOISE IS GOING TO EXCEED THAT.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF THINGS WERE IT WOOD, UM, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE IS, UM, SO I HAD MY NEIGHBORS ACTUALLY USING, UM, TO DRILL INTO THE ROCK TO BUILD A SWIMMING POOL.
AND THAT WOULD'VE BEEN ABOVE, WELL ABOVE THE 85, MUCH LESS THE 65.
THE ROOFING'S GONNA BE A GENERATOR.
BUT THE IDEA IS TO HAVE IT SO THAT LIKE WHEN WE'RE DOING EMERGENCY PROJECTS, ENGINEERING CAN, CAN DO THE EXEMPTIONS AND THAT IT'S CLEAR IN THERE AND IT'S SPECIFIED.
BUT THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE LOUDER, THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT AND PERMISSION TO DO THAT.
AND WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES ARE DOING THAT AND HAVE TO GIVE NOTICE OF THE LOUDER VOLUME, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PUT OUT THE SIGNS TO LET THEM KNOW.
IN THE EXAMPLE YOU SHARED, LIKE SOMEBODY DIGGING FOR A POOL, THE POOL BUILDER HAS TO GET THE PERMIT.
AND SO THE NOISE PART WOULD BE A PART OF THEIR PERMIT PROCESS.
SO IF THEY'RE DOING THE WORK DURING THE DAYTIME, IS IT REALLY NECESSARY TO REQUIRE A PERMIT JUST FOR THEIR EXTRA NOISE? IS THERE EXEMPTIONS FOR THAT? BUT NOW WE DIDN'T SPECIFY ANYTHING TO THAT LEVEL.
WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR IS NOT TRYING TO UNDO ANY OF THE REST OF WHAT'S ALREADY PUT IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONING WELL, BUT TRYING TO ADDRESS THE HOLES THAT WE DON'T HAVE ADDRESSED.
WELL, SO IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU ALREADY HAVE TO HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT TO DO IT, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO COMPLICATE THAT PROCESS.
THAT WOULD ALREADY BE PART OF THE PROCESS.
IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET YOUR SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, NOT AN, AN ADDITIONAL ONE.
AND THEN THE PARTS WHERE YOU GUYS WOULD GET INVOLVED IS FOR CONSTRUCTION.
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PROJECT AND MORE THAN THE 200 FEET FROM SOMEONE'S OCCUPIED RESIDENCE.AND ALL OF THOSE SPECIFICS ARE WRITTEN IN THERE.
BUT THAT'S WHERE I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
AND IT WAS JUST A LITTLE HARD.
I DIDN'T WANNA TRY TO PUT IT UP THERE.
SO THAT'S WHY I PRO MADE SURE I PROVIDED YOU THE COPIES OF ALL THAT.
CAN YOU GIVE A COUPLE EXAMPLES, I GUESS, OF WHEN SOMEBODY WHO DO ISN'T DOING CONSTRUCTION DOESN'T HAVE THAT PERMIT, BUT WILL EXCEED THE NOISE ORDINANCE WHEN THEY WOULD NEED TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT? LIKE WHAT TYPE OF EVENT WOULD THAT BE? OR WHAT SITUATION? OKAY, SO, UM, LIKE IN, IN TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS THAT GO ON WITH OUR CITY GROWING SO MUCH, WE, WHAT WE TRIED TO CONSIDER IS THE, UM, BECAUSE THE WAY THE FORMER, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, LIKE, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING ANY CONSTRUCTION WORK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, BUT IF YOU'RE PAINTING, YOU'RE NOT MAKING ANY NOISE AT ALL.
AND THAT'S NOT THE, SO THE INTENT IS NOT TO MAKE IT SO YOU CAN'T DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, BUT TO COME IN AND SAY SOMEBODY DECIDES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, UM, DO, UM, THE CONCRETE PLACEMENT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S WITHIN 200 FEET OF SOMEONE ELSE, AND THEY'RE, THOSE TRUCKS HAVE THOSE REALLY LOUD, UM, SPEAKERS ON 'EM AND IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY PROJECT.
THEY'RE JUST LIKE, OH, WE JUST WANNA DO IT.
NOW THAT THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THAT TO GET APPROVED OF AND THAT THEY WOULD NOTIFY ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY WOULD BE DOING THAT.
IS THERE SOME KIND OF EXEMPTION FOR LIKE PERSONAL USE? I'M THINKING OF SOMEBODY HAVING A GRADUATION PARTY AND HAVING A DJ IN THEIR BACKYARD AND IT'S GOING TO BE LOUD FOR A NUMBER OF HOURS.
I BELIEVE THEN THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT WOULD BE REQUIRED IF IT'S ABOVE THE NOISE LEVEL.
YEAH, BECAUSE SOME OF THAT BOUNCES ALL OVER.
I KNOW IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S WHAT IT'S, IT'S BAD.
UM, YOU, YOU REFERENCED THE RESIDENTIAL AS AT TH AT 30 FEET? IT NO, I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S SOME NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THE WAY THAT IT WAS THAT IT'S CURRENTLY SET UP, YOU'D HAVE TO GET A MUCH FURTHER DISTANCE.
BUT YOU HAVE SOME WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE HOUSE, THE, THE YARD WITH THE FENCE, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT 30 FEET AND POTENTIALLY A VERY LOUD POOL SOMETHING.
AND THERE, THERE WAS NOTHING THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS NORMALLY WHO WOULD GET CALLED FOR THAT.
BUT WE DISCUSSED THAT HEAVILY.
TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT.
SO, SO THAT, THAT COULD BE A, THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU CAN'T REALLY TELL SOMEBODY NOT TO USE THEIR, THEIR POOL, BUT MM-HMM.
SO I, I WAS READING, AND AGAIN, WE, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY REFERENCE AS TO HOW LOUD SOMETHING IS EITHER.
BUT WHAT I'M READING IS THAT NORMAL CONVERSATION IS AROUND 60 DECIBELS.
AND A GENERATOR, WHICH ARE I'LL SAY ARE VERY POPULAR RIGHT NOW.
UM, ARE AT 66 DECIBELS, WHICH WOULD BE ABOVE WHAT WE HAVE LISTED HERE FOR RESIDENTIAL AT 23 FEET.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO DISCUSS THE TABLE WITH YOU BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS LOOK AT, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME CITIES THAT HAVE NUMBERS WAY LOWER THAN THIS AND SOME THAT HAVE HIGHER MM-HMM.
AND WE JUST DID, UM, TRYING TO KEEP AS CLOSE AS WE COULD TO WHAT SEEMED REASONABLE FOR THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO DISCUSS THAT WITH Y'ALL.
SO I THINK, AND, AND THIS, WITH THAT IN MIND, WE MAY NEED TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE.
UM, JUST FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE A GENERATOR THAT RUNS A FEW MINUTES EVERY WEEK BECAUSE IT'S PROGRAMMED TO DO SO.
UM, AS A, A PART OF THE MAINTENANCE PROCESS.
UH, IF IT'S RUNNING A FEW MINUTES AND IT'S, IT'S PERMITTED BECAUSE IF IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS, THEY HAVE TO ISSUE A PERMIT.
SO IF IT IS PERMITTED, THEN THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE, THE INTEGRITY OF THE GENERATOR AND AND WARRANTY IF THAT'S THE CASE.
UM, AND IT'S, IF IT'S IN A, A SITUATION WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, THEY'RE USING IT BECAUSE THE POWER'S OUT, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
BUT IT WOULD BE FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME WHERE IF SOMEBODY GETS, GETS CALLED BECAUSE THE GENERATOR'S RUNNING, IT'S JUST GONNA RUN FOR A FEW MINUTES.
SO IT'S ALREADY, YOU'VE ALREADY FIXED THE PROBLEM BY THE TIME SOMEBODY CAN RESPOND TO THE CALL.
AND I WILL, UM, ADDRESS AND SEE IF I CAN FIND ANYTHING.
I THINK, UM, WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON OUR SIDE.
'CAUSE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, A JACKHAMMER FOR A POOL, YOU GET A POOL PERMIT, BUT THE POOL PERMIT'S NOT GRANTING VARIANCE TO THE NOISE.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GETTING YOUR PERMIT TO DO WORK, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY CHANGING OUR ORDINANCE.
WELL, AND I THINK TOO, BECAUSE WE'RE ON TOP OF ROCK IN SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU USE JACKHAMMERS FOR SOMETHING MUCH SMALLER THAN A POOL.
AND I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, THE COMMON RESIDENT IS GOING TO THINK, I NEED TO GET PERMISSION TO USE THIS ON MY PROPERTY DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS.
I THINK, UM, PROBABLY OUR VOLUME LEVELS ALLOWABLE BY
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RIGHT DURING THE DAY NEED TO COME UP SOMEWHAT BECAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE TO USE THEIR LAWNMOWERS AND WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PARTIES IN THE BACKYARD AND, AND, UM, NOT BE HARASSED FOR THAT.SO IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE I CAN PROVIDE YOU LIKE THE LIST OF THAT AND MAYBE A RECOMMENDED NUMBER BASED ON WHAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE BASED ON THE, THE INPUT AND THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ASKED? YEAH.
AND IF YOU THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, MAYBE EVEN, UM, A SUMMARY OF SOME OF THE NOISE COMPLAINTS THAT COME UP FREQUENTLY SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT TIME OF DAY, WHAT KINDS OF ACTIVITIES ARE BOTHERING PEOPLE.
DO WE FEEL LIKE IT'S NUISANCE LEVEL AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, UM, I COULD EVEN SEE WHERE MAYBE YOU PUT IN A THIRD CATEGORY WHERE LIKE YOU WOULDN'T WANT SOMEBODY HAVING A POOL PARTY AT 7:00 AM OR USING A JACKHAMMER AT 7:00 AM BUT MAYBE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, 10 AND NINE OR SOMETHING ON WEEKENDS OR SOMETHING.
UM, I WOULD SAY ANYTIME, HONESTLY.
LIKE, AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO DO THAT, I'M JUST SAYING IF THAT MAKES IT EASIER.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE, YOU DON'T WANT THEM THAT LOUD DURING THE FULL DAYTIME HOURS, IF YOU WANNA MAKE ANOTHER ONE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MORE NARROW, LIKE I THINK WE COULD, OR LIKE THE EVENING, THE EVENING HOURS SORT OF EARLY MORNING
AM I, I'M GONNA AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO USE AND WE CAN, IT WOULD ALWAYS BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TWEAK IF WE EVER RAN ACROSS A PROBLEM.
BUT I WOULDN'T WANT LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE OVERDO IT TO MM-HMM.
LET ME, LET ME JUST GO THROUGH, TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT I HAVE ON THE SOUND AND THEN PROVIDE THAT BACK TO YOU GUYS.
THAT'S WHY I REALLY ASKED, THAT WILL ANSWER A LOT FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK.
UM, AND THEN IF YOU, IF YOU ALSO CAN TAKE A LOOK AT, AT YOUR LEISURE, UM, THE SECTION THAT WE PUT FOR ENGINEERING EXEMPTIONS AND WHAT YOU GUYS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SIGN TO KNOW WHERE THAT LEVEL IS.
YOU KNOW, AS AN EXAMPLE, AUSTIN, WHICH IS A MUCH BIGGER CITY, BUT WE'RE GETTING BIGGER.
THEIR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DOES ALL OF IT AND CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T GET INVOLVED, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHERE OUR CITY IS RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S AN EASY, AS OUR CITY GROWS, THAT WOULD BE AN EASY TRANSITION TO PUT THINGS AS THEIR ENGINEERING STAFF GROWS THAT YOU CAN TRANSITION THAT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT EXACTLY, TO HIS POINT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO IS MAKE IT SO IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE YES.
ENFORCEABLE, AND THAT PEOPLE DON'T LOOK AT IT AND GO, WELL THIS ISN'T GONNA WORK.
ONE OTHER, FOR REFERENCE, I'M SEEING 68 DECIBELS FOR AIR CONDITIONERS.
AND IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO WHAT YOU SAID, IF WE COULD HAVE A SUMMARY OF WHAT KIND OF COMPLAINTS WE'VE HAD AND THE TIME THAT THEY'VE HAD.
SO WE AREN'T JUST WILLY-NILLY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, MAKING.
AND, AND CAN, I CAN TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF THE, THE MORE SEVERE COMPLAINTS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE HAPPENING AT NIGHT.
UM, I TRYING TO SEE, THINK THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS THE ONES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY DEALING WITH SOME OF THE AIR CONDITIONER, GENERATOR, UM, TYPE ISSUES.
AND I DON'T HAVE STATS ON THOSE.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE, HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD GATHER FROM THEM.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT, IT'S A LOT ABOUT HOW THE CURRENT ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN THAT DOESN'T LEAVE THIS FLEXIBILITY THAT THIS NEW STRATEGY WOULD.
SO ONCE WE FIND WHAT THOSE RIGHT NUMBERS ARE, I THINK WE'RE GONNA FIND THAT THIS IS, THIS IS GONNA WORK REALLY WELL.
WELL, AND TO THROW SOMETHING ELSE INTO IT TOO YES.
LIKE REFERENCING THE, THE RESIDENTIAL, A LOT OF THE, THE NOISE, THE THINGS THAT I'M REFERENCING HERE, YOU'VE GOT FENCES IN BETWEEN THAT CREATES A NOISE BARRIER SO IT REDUCES THE DECIBELS.
BUT, AND THERE'S A DISTANCE THAT'S GONNA DISTANCE AND THERE'S A DISTANCE.
AND THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY IF YOU GET VERY, IF YOU GET MORE AND MORE OF THE HIGH DENSITY AREAS, YEAH.
YOU MAY NEED TO SET A DIFFERENT LEVEL FOR THOSE.
AND IT'S GONNA VARY FOR THE, FOR DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND BASED ON THE TYPE OF FENCING THEY HAD.
IT'S, IT'S GETTING COMPLICATED
SO TO THAT END, I WAS HOPING YOU COULD ACTUALLY TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ENTERTAINMENT ZONE.
LIKE WHAT? OH, HELLO ROBIN? CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? OH, HOLD ON.
COUNCIL MEMBER MCDONALD HAS A QUESTION.
SO WHERE WOULD THE MEASUREMENTS TAKE PLACE? WOULD IT TAKE PLACE INSIDE A RESIDENCE? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO COMBAT? OR WOULD IT BE OUTSIDE BECAUSE IT'S GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE? JUST LIKE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER IN PLACE, ONE JUST MENTIONED THAT THE, YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE A LONG NAME
THIS IS WHAT I HAVE CURRENTLY WRITTEN IN HERE.
UM, NOISE MAY BE MEASURED WHERE THE NOISE IS AUDIBLE ON THE COMPLAINANT'S PROPERTY OR ON THE RIGHT OF WAY OUTSIDE THE COMPLAINANT'S PROPERTY.
AND THAT THE MEASUREMENT LOCATION MAY BE ADJUSTED WHERE LINE OF SIGHT OR ELEVATION MAY POSE A CHALLENGE IN DETERMINING IF A NUISANCE EXISTS.
I DO THINK THE DAY ONE NEEDS TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT OKAY.
BUT LIKE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE'S FEEDBACK? I, I THINK IT'S PRETTY GOOD.
BUT THE NIGHT ONE, I REALLY THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD
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NUMBER.'CAUSE OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THIS, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE, AGAIN, TRYING TO BALANCE WHAT, AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BE ABLE TO CHAT WITH Y'ALL.
APPRECIATE, I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
SO I WAS HOPING TO LEARN ABOUT THE ENTERTAINMENT ZONES.
UM, SO STAFF IS WORKING ON AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ADD ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS.
ONE ELEMENT OF THAT IS GOING TO BE NOISE.
SO, UM, AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE THAT THE COUNCIL CAN DECIDE IF THERE'S AN AREA THEY WANNA DESIGNATE AS AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, LIKE OLD TOWN.
UM, SO THIS WOULD INCORPORATE OTHER STANDARDS LIKE, UH, ALLOWANCES FOR MORE OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT, A DIFFERENT DECIBEL LEVEL.
IT ALSO, UM, WOULD ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL USES SUCH AS, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL BY RIGHT.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UM, ALLOWING OPEN CONTAINER.
I KEEP SAYING WITHIN, WITHIN AREA.
SO KIND OF LIKE GEORGETOWN SQUARE, RIGHT? SO THEY CAN BUY WINE AT ONE OF THE BARS AND YOU CAN WALK AROUND THE SQUARE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT ITEMS LIKE THAT TO ADD TO THE DISTRICT, BUT THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO, UM, REZONE A PROPERTY TO ADD THAT OVERLAY TO ALLOW IT.
SO IT COULD BE SOMETHING YOU DO IN NORTHLINE, ORLANDER SPRINGS, SOMEWHERE WHERE WE SEE MORE OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT, BUT WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER.
WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THAT? NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT THAT SOUNDS FANTASTIC.
UM, I'M HOPING IT'LL BE THE SAME TIME WE'RE ADOPTING THIS ONE.
ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS WE'RE TRYING TO INCORPORATE SHORT TERM RENTALS AND THAT ORDINANCE ISN'T READY YET.
SO IT MIGHT BE ONE WHERE WE LEAVE THAT OUT AND THEN IT GETS ADDED LATER.
BUT I'M HOPEFUL WHENEVER WE BRING THIS ONE BACK, THEY'LL COME AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK THROUGH IN MY HEAD, IF, I THINK ALL THE ENTERTAINMENT ZONES WOULD PROBABLY BE LIKE NORTHLINE HERE AND LIKE THE LAGOON, THAT KIND OF THING.
WOULD, WOULD SOMEBODY BE ABLE TO LIKE, RETROFIT EXISTING PROPERTIES TO BE, CAN I DECLARE MY HOUSE AN ENTERTAINMENT ZONE? THE COUNCIL WOULD MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO EVERY ONE OF THEM WILL GET COUNCIL APPROVAL? CORRECT.
I I IMAGINE IT WOULD BE DIRECTED BY COUNCIL TO ESTABLISH IT.
AND IF WE WERE TO DO IT, WE WOULDN'T DO NORTHLINE TODAY.
YOU WOULD DO NORTHLINE WHEN THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT FACILITATES OUT DIRECTIVITY.
SO IT'S LIKE WHEN THAT USE GETS HERE, THEN YOU WOULD DESIGNATE IT AS AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
AND IT'LL BE LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S VALID FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS OR PERMANENTLY OR, UM, WELL IT'S, IT'S UP TO Y'ALL.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE IT DRAFTED LIKE PERMANENTLY, BUT IF WE WANTED TO HAVE TIMEFRAMES, WE COULD DO THAT TOO.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I BUILT IN THE ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT THAT WOULD ALLOW US THE FLEXIBILITY.
IF YOU HAD SOMETHING THAT WAS LIKE GONNA GO OVER FOR A WEEK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY THEN TO, TO PUT THAT IN.
WE WERE JUST TRYING TO SET UP THAT FRAMEWORK FOR, FOR OUR FUTURE GROWTH OF THE CITY.
UM, DOES ANYBODY ELSE, IS THERE AN ADDITIONAL FEE FOR THE NOISE VARIANCE PERMITS TO PROCESS? WE WERE NOT, WE WERE NOT INTENDING TO DO THAT.
WE WERE JUST TRYING TO UTILIZE WHAT WE ALREADY HAD.
ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL? THANK YOU BOTH SO VERY MUCH.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
AND WITH THAT, WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP AT 6:23 PM PLEASE BE BACK AT SEVEN O'CLOCK FOR OUR REGULAR MEETING.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 16TH, 2023.
[4. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.]
AND THE TIME IS 7:01 PM AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL.VICTORIA C CHADRI OF THE BAJA COMMUNITY OF LEANDER WILL BE PROVIDING THE INVOCATION, FOLLOWING THE INVOCATION, PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE.
OH, THOU COMPASSIONATE LORD THOU WHO ARE GENEROUS AND ABLE.
WE ARE SERVANTS OF THINE SHELTERED BENEATH THY PROVIDENCE.
CAST THY GLANCE OF FAVOR UPON US, GIVE LIGHT TO OUR EYES, HEARING TO OUR EARS, AND UNDERSTANDING AND LOVE TO OUR HEARTS, RENDER OUR SOULS JOYOUS AND HAPPY THROUGH THY GLAD TIDINGS, OH LORD.
POINT OUT TO US THE PATHWAY OF THY KINGDOM AND RESUSCITATE ALL OF US THROUGH THE BREATHS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BESTOW UPON US LIFE EVERLASTING AND CONFER UPON US NEVER ENDING HONOR UNIFY MANKIND AND LUMEN THE WORLD OF HUMANITY.
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MAY WE ALL FOLLOW THY PATHWAY LONG FOR THY GOOD PLEASURE.AND SEEK THE MYSTERIES OF THY KINGDOM.
OH GOD, UNITE US AND CONNECT OUR HEARTS WITH THY INTO SOLUBLE BOND.
VERILY THOU ART THE GIVER, THOU ART THE KIND ONE AND THOU ART THE ALMIGHTY AM.
IT'S TO THE FLAG IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS.
ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVIDUAL.
[5. Roll Call.]
CITY SECRETARY CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCILMAN CATHERINE BATTALION PARKER.HERE QUORUM IS PRESENT AND THE CITY COUNCIL'S ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS.
[6. Public comments on items not listed in the agenda.
Public comments on items listed in the agenda will be heard at the time each item is discussed by Council.
[All comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual.]]
FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, I WILL CALL ON SPEAKERS PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION OF THEIR AGENDA ITEM.
AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED COMMENTS VIA THE WEBSITE WILL ONLY HAVE THEIR POSITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD AND ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL AND BE MADE A PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISH TO SPEAK? WE ARE GONNA MOVE RIGHT ALONG.
[7. Leander History]
SEVEN, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON LEANDER HISTORY WITH HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMISSION.OKAY, SO, UM, WE ARE TRYING TO GET TOGETHER DIFFERENT HISTORICAL ITEMS. UM, MAYBE, HOPEFULLY SOMEDAY IN THE FUTURE WE CAN HAVE A MUSEUM.
AND A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, ONE OF MY COUSINS, SHE CALLED ME UP AND SAID SHE WAS GONNA GO TO THE CEMETERY AND SHE WAS GONNA DROP OFF A BOX WITH A BOOK.
IN THAT BOOK OR IN THAT BOX, SHE INCLUDED SOME PHOTOGRAPHS, SOME OF THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS I'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
AND THEN THERE'S A PHOTO ALBUM.
AND I LOOKED AT IT AND I LOOKED THROUGH IT AND I SAID, UM, OH, HERE'S MS. LAURA AND THEN, UM, CHRIS TTW, WHO'S ON OUR, UM, HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
DID MS. LAURA WEAR 1860S GARB IN 1910? I SAID, NO.
SHE SAID, THAT'S NOT MS. LAURA.
AND I WAS LIKE, OH, THAT'S HER MOTHER.
AND THEN THERE'S 10 TYPES IN THERE.
THERE ARE SOME OF THE OLDEST PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WE HAVE OF LEANDER.
SHE JUST DROPPED OFF ON MY STEP TWO DAYS AGO.
SO, UH, HERE IS ONE OF THE PICTURES FROM THERE.
AND THIS IS A PICTURE THAT WE HAVE SEEN BEFORE, BUT WE'VE NEVER SEEN IT WITH THE HORSE OVER THERE ON THE, UM, YEAH, OVER THERE ON THAT SIDE.
AND THIS IS THE PICTURE OF THE MEN OUT IN FRONT.
WE DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THIS PICTURE WAS, BUT THAT WAS, UM, IT WAS THERE OUT, OUT IN FRONT.
YOU KIND OF RECOGNIZE THE FRONT OF IT.
THAT IS THE FRONT OF, UM, THE BEER, THE BEER GARDEN.
THAT'S THE OLDEST BUILDING IN LEANDER STILL.
THIS IS THE SAME DAY BECAUSE THERE'S OUR HORSE.
BUT NOTICE IT'S DIFFERENT MEN, IT'S DIFFERENT HORSES.
I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS PICTURE BEFORE AND I'M GONNA SHOW IT TO SOME OF MY PEOPLE THAT KNOW, UH, HAVE OLDER PICTURES, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE ELSE HAS SEEN THIS PICTURE BEFORE.
SO EVIDENTLY THEY HAD WHERE A, A TRAVELING PHOTOGRAPHER CAME AND HE STATIONED HIMSELF THERE AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE CAME AND HAD THEIR PICTURE TAKEN.
AND THIS IS JUST THE RAW PICTURE, SO IT'S A LITTLE ROUGH.
THIS IS THE LUMBER YARD AND THERE'S THE DEPOT.
SO IF THE, THE DEPOT WOULD BE STRAIGHT OUT THIS DIRECTION OVER BY WHERE THE SIDETRACKS ARE.
SO THE, THE LUMBER YARD RIGHT THERE WOULD BE ABOUT WHERE, UM, UH, MOONEY'S IS NOW,
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HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE COTTON GIN.WE'VE NEVER HAD A PICTURE OF THE COTTON GIN.
THIS IS THE COTTON GIN THAT SAT RIGHT BACK BEHIND HERE.
NOT THE BIG ONE DOWN THE ROAD.
SO THAT IS, WE'VE NEVER HAD ONE BEFORE.
AND THEN HERE IS A PICTURE, AN EARLY, EARLY PICTURE OF THE OTHER COTTON GIN DOWN BY, UM, WHEREABOUT, HEB IS.
AND THEN I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT MY FRIEND THAT HAS PASSED AWAY.
HE WAS 99 YEARS OLD AND HE WAS A PEARL HARBOR SURVIVOR.
WE HAVE VERY FEW PEARL HARBOR SURVIVORS LEFT.
UM, I DID A LITTLE GOOGLING TODAY AND, UH, WE CAN FIND THE NAMES OF ABOUT THREE OR FOUR.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE SERIOUSLY DOWN TO INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE WATCHING NOW.
WE HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND WORLD WAR II VETERANS LEFT, AND THEY DIE AT 133 A DAY.
IT WILL BE JUST A FEW YEARS BEFORE THEY ALL PASS AWAY.
UM, HORACE HAMILTON WAS FROM LEANDER.
HE GRADUATED IN 1941 AND HE WENT AND ENLISTED IN THE NAVY.
UH, HE WAS SO SMALL THAT, UM, HE BARELY MADE THE WEIGHT.
AND THE ONLY WAY HE MADE THE WEIGHT IS, UM, THE RECRUITER GAVE HIM A DIME TO BUY BANANAS AND DRINK WATER.
AND, AND I'VE TOLD THAT STORY BEFORE, BUT PART OF THAT STORY IS HE WAS SO SMALL, THEY DID NOT HAVE A UNIFORM FOR HIM IN THE NAVY.
HE WAS LITERALLY THE SMALLEST MAN IN THE NAVY.
AND THEY HAD TO, UH, DO A, MAKE A SPECIAL UNIFORM FOR HIM.
AND THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE USS PHOENIX, WHICH IS THE, THE SHIP THAT HE SERVED ON AT PEARL HARBOR THAT DAY.
AND THAT'S A PICTURE OF, OF HORACE UP THERE.
UM, THAT'S ANOTHER NAVY PICTURE, OBVIOUSLY.
AND THEN WE HAD HORACE HAMILTON DAY HERE IN LEANDER SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
AND THAT'S A PICTURE FROM THAT DAY.
WE HAD PEOPLE COME JUST TO MEET HORACE HAMILTON THAT DAY.
AND HERE'S A PICTURE WITH HIS, UM, MEDALS.
AND THEN THIS IS, UM, A FLAG, THE FUNERAL PERCE PROCESSION.
THEY RAISED FLAGS FOR THE FUNERAL PROCESSION TO GO FROM CALDWELL, WHERE THE, WHERE HE LIVED UP HERE.
AND HE WAS BURIED AT, UM, FLUER AT CAPITAL MEMORIAL.
AND I WANNA READ SOMETHING FROM HIS, THE BOOK ABOUT HIS HISTORY.
I HAD SPENT THREE YEARS AND EIGHT MONTHS IN THE PACIFIC BATTLE ZONE.
I HAD EARNED 10 MEDALS, FOUR COMMENDATION AWARD RIBBONS, 11 BRONZE STARS FOR THE 32 BATTLES AND ACTIONS THAT MY SHIP, THE USS PHOENIX PARTICIPATED IN FROM AUSTRALIA, SOLOMON ISLANDS, NEW GUINEA, PHILIPPINES, WHICH ALSO INCLUDED KOR AND MANILA.
WE DEFEATED THE JAPANESE NAVAL TASK FORCE IN ONE OF THE LARGEST SEA BATTLES SHIPPED TO SHIP THERE IN SURGO STRAITS.
I CONSIDER MYSELF VERY FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU OF THESE BATTLES.
AND I THANK THE GOOD LORD FOR EVERY DAY.
I HAD NO IDEA THAT HE HAD 11 BRONZE STARS.
BUT, UH, IN WORLD WAR II, THE BRONZE STAR WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
THE THE BRONZE STAR THAT WE HAVE NOW IS, UH, IT WAS, UH, SANCTIONED IN 1944.
THE BRONZE STARS THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT ARE, UH, GIVEN TO SHIPS DURING WORLD WAR II.
AND THEY WERE FOR MERITORIOUS SERVICE DURING BATTLES.
SO THEY HAD 11 BATTLES THAT THEY WERE, UM, THEIR SHIP WAS STRUCK, THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, HORACE, HE WAS THE SMALLEST MAN IN THE NAVY AT PEARL HARBOR.
HE SINGLE-HANDEDLY PULLED 41 MEN OUT OF THE WATER.
SO HE, HE WAS THE REAL DEAL AND HE WILL BE VERY MISSED.
AND TO, TO END ON A BETTER NOTE, THIS SATURDAY AT, UM, THE MASON HOMESTEAD, WE ARE HAVING VICTORIA CHRISTMAS, SO PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE TIME, PLEASE COME BY.
[8. Staff Reports
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FIRST WE HAVE FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH CHIEF WORCESTER HAUSEN.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UH, BILLY WORCESTER HAUSEN FIRE CHIEF.
UH, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME, UH, PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING ABOUT OUR RECENT, UH, ISO AUDIT THAT WE WENT THROUGH THIS YEAR.
SO ISO IS THE INSURANCE SERVICE OFFICE.
IT'S A FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT EVALUATES FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND GIVES
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THEM A CLASSIFICATION CALLED A PUBLIC PROTECTION CLASS.SOME INSURANCE COMPANIES USE THAT RATING THEN TO DETERMINE WHAT PREMIUMS THEY'LL CHARGE FOR, UH, THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA.
SO THAT, UH, RATING IS ON A CLASSIFICATION OF ONE THROUGH 10, ONE BEING THE BEST RATING, AND THEN 10 BEING NO FIRE PROTECTION.
AND, UH, FORTUNATELY FOR US, WE WERE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR IO TWO RATING.
SO WE, UH, INITIALLY WERE SCORED IN 2017 WHERE WE RECEIVED THE RATING FOR THE, UH, UH, SO TWO, AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH THE RATING AUDIT AGAIN THIS YEAR.
AND SO STARTING IN THIS, UH, NEXT YEAR, WE WILL CONTINUE THIS RATING OF TWO.
SO, UH, OUR SCORE DID GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
YOU CAN SEE IT WENT, UH, FROM 87.9 DOWN TO 84.83, BUT WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE DETAILS.
SO, UH, UH, TWO IS STILL VERY COMMENDABLE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS.
UH, SO OUT OF THE US ABOUT 5% OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE EITHER A CLASS ONE OR TWO, UH, IN TEXAS EVERYTHING IS BETTER.
SO WE WERE, UH, AMONGST THE 14% IN TEXAS THAT ARE AMONGST THE CLASS ONE OR TWO.
SO WE DID MAINTAIN OUR CLASS TWO SLASH TWO Y.
UH, THE DIFFERENCE BEING THAT IF YOU'RE WITHIN FIVE MILES OF A FIRE STATION AND WITHIN 1000 FEET OF A HYDRANT, THEN YOU'RE GIVEN A CLASS TWO.
IF YOU'RE WITHIN FIVE MILES OF A STATION AND MORE THAN A THOUSAND FEET OF A HYDRANT, THEN IT'S A TWO Y.
SO THE RATINGS ARE BASED ON, UH, ABOUT 50 POINTS BASED ON THE QUALITY OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, 40 POINTS ON THE WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM, AND THEN 10 POINTS ON THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION SYSTEM.
SO WE'LL START WITH THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION SYSTEM FIRST, SO A TOTAL OF 10 POINTS.
AND THEY LOOK AT THINGS SUCH AS THE EMERGENCY REPORTING SYSTEM, UH, THE TELECOMMUNICATORS OR CERTIFICATIONS AND TRAINING, AND THEN THE DISPATCH, UH, CIRCUITS OR THE REDUNDANCIES IN THOSE COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS. SO WE DID VERY WELL THERE.
OUR WATER SUPPLY TOTAL OF 40 POINTS, UH, AVAILABLE THERE.
SO THEY LOOK AT THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, THE SUPPLY SYSTEM, UH, YOU GET CREDITS FOR THE HYDRANTS, AND THEN YOU GET CREDIT FOR INSPECTION AND FLOW TESTING.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT OUR FLOW TESTING AND, AND, UH, INSPECTIONS THERE IS 3.48 OUTTA SEVEN.
UH, THAT'S LARGELY DUE TO THE, UH, LACK OF, UH, INSPECTIONS THAT WE HAD DONE DURING THIS DROUGHT THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS A TOTAL OF 50 POINTS AVAILABLE THERE, UH, SIX POINTS FOR ENGINE COMPANIES.
THAT'S GONNA BE THE FIRE TRUCKS WITHOUT THE LADDER ON TOP.
AND THEN ALSO RESERVE ENGINES, UH, YOU CAN GET A TOTAL OF HALF THERE.
AND THEN PUMPER CAPACITY, THAT'S GONNA BE THE GALLONS PER MINUTE THAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE FIRE SCENE WITH THE COMBINED, UH, PUMPING CAPACITY OF THE APPARATUS.
AND THEN THE LADDER SERVICE, UH, YOU CAN SEE WE GOT 1.35 OUT OF FOUR POSSIBLE POINTS THERE.
AND THEN, UH, POINTS FOR RESERVE LADDER.
AND THEN THE DEPLOYMENT ANALYSIS IS THE, UH, STATION DISTRIBUTION.
SO HOW MUCH OF THE AREA IS COVERED BY THE STATIONS, UH, CREDIT FOR COMPANY PERSONNEL.
UH, THAT'S GONNA BE HOW MANY FIREFIGHTERS ARE ON DUTY ON THOSE UNITS THAT RESPOND TO THOSE CALLS, CREDIT FOR TRAINING.
SO, UH, TO GET THE CREDIT, THEY, OUR FIREFIGHTERS RECEIVE 240 HOURS OF TRAINING A YEAR.
SO THEN THEY ALSO HAVE A SUPPLEMENTAL CREDIT IF WE SEND PERSONNEL TO THE TEXAS ENGINEERING EXTENSION SERVICE EACH YEAR.
AND THEN WE HAVE A CREDIT FOR OPERATIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.
THERE'S ALSO AN ADDITIONAL FIVE AND A HALF POINTS AVAILABLE THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE OUR FIRE PREVENTION AND CODE ENFORCEMENT POLICIES OR, UH, ORDINANCES RATHER, UH, CREDIT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY EDUCATION CREDIT FOR THE, OUR FIRE INVESTIGATIONS THAT WE DO.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE AND WE'VE GOT THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WATER SUPPLY, YOU'LL NOTICE THIS DIVERGENCE OF A NEGATIVE 0.96.
WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT IF YOU HAD A REALLY OUTSTANDING FIRE DEPARTMENT AND A NOT SO PRESENT WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM OR VICE VERSA, YOU HAD A REALLY AWESOME WATER SUPPLY, BUT NOT SO PRESENT FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, THEN THEY ADJUST THOSE TO KIND OF EQUALIZE THOSE OUT.
SO FORTUNATELY WE ONLY SAW A, A LESS THAN A ONE POINT REDUCTION THERE.
UH, AND THEN OUR, UH, COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN THERE IS ALSO AN ADDITIONAL POINT, UH, FOR OUR COMPRESSED AIR FOAM SYSTEM.
SO THAT'S A CALF SYSTEM, THAT'S A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT'S ON SOME OF OUR FIRE TRUCKS.
AND SO WE DID TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT POINT THERE.
UH, SO THE GAP ITEMS THAT WE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THAT IS THE LACK OF THE LADDER SERVICE, UH, COMPANIES, LACK OF FACILITIES OR THE FIRE STATIONS, UH, LACK OF STAFFING, AND THEN THE RECORDS ON THE FLOW TESTING AND REPAIRS.
UH, SO THIS MAP HERE SHOWS YOU THE FIRE STATION LOCATIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, AND THAT'S A ONE AND A HALF MILE RESPONSE FROM THOSE AREAS THERE.
THE DISTRIBUTION IS GRADED ON ONE OF TWO THINGS, EITHER A ONE AND A HALF MILE OR ACTUAL RESPONSES THAT WE CAN SHOW FOR.
SO WE DID PROVIDE 'EM ALL OF OUR RESPONSE DATA AND THEY LOOKED THROUGH BOTH OF THOSE TO COME UP WITH THE EVALUATION.
UH, SO THE GOOD THING IS, IS WE ARE WORKING ON THESE ITEMS ALREADY.
UH, WE DO HAVE PLANS ON, UH, FUTURE FIRE STATION
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LOCATIONS FOR SIX AND SEVEN IN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE, UH, CURRENTLY LACKING, UH, BETTER COVERAGE.UH, WE ARE WORKING ON STAFFING FOR THE CURRENT AND FUTURE STATIONS AS WELL.
AND THEN ALSO A PLAN FOR, UH, UPCOMING YEARS SHOULD WE HAVE, UH, A LONG, UH, DROUGHT SEASON AGAIN, UH, TO WHERE WE COULD BE ABLE TO PERFORM THOSE INSPECTIONS AND, AND NOT, UH, UH, AND BE MINDFUL OF THE DROUGHT CONDITIONS.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE, UM, HYDRANTS BEING, BEING WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF A HYDRANT.
DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT THE, THE HYDRANTS ARE EVERY 200 FEET? IS THAT, SO WE SPACE HYDRANTS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS EVERY 500 FEET, 500 IN COMMERCIAL AREAS, WE PUT 'EM AT 300 FEET.
SO THAT WOULD BE AN AVERAGE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL FOR THAT RATING THAT YOU REFERENCED A THOUSAND FEET.
SO THE THOUSAND FEET IS THAT IF THERE ISN'T A HYDRANT WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF THAT PROPERTY, THEN IT WOULD BE A TWO Y INSTEAD OF A TWO.
THEN THE OTHER BIG QUESTION, I THINK YOU KIND OF ANSWERED BY SHOWING US EVERYTHING, BUT THE CONDENSED VERSION OF WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET TO BE A ONE? YEAH, SO, UM, IT, UH, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT ITEMS YOU WANNA PURSUE.
SO OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA PURSUE THE, THE THINGS THAT GIVE US THE BIGGEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
AND SO IN LOOKING AT THE DEFICIENCIES THERE, UH, THOSE FOUR AREAS WERE KIND OF GONNA BE THE, THE BIG POINT.
SO TO GET A ONE, WE'VE GOTTA GET OVER 90 POINTS TOTAL.
AND WE WERE AT THAT, WHAT IS SAY, 80, 84 OR 5 84? YEAH, 86, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
SO WE'RE NOT, NOT TOO FAR AWAY.
UM, BUT THE CHALLENGE IS GONNA BE ENSURING THAT WE DON'T LOSE ANY GROUND AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW.
AND I DID HAVE ONE THIRD QUESTION, AND IT'S JUST THE LACK OF LADDER SERVICE IS THAT LADDER HEIGHT.
SO THAT IS, UH, LADDER UNITS THAT ARE STAFFED AND IN SERVICE.
THAT'S THREE STORIES OR HIGHER.
SO IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUILDING HEIGHTS THAT WE HAVE RELATIVE TO IT IS THE TRUCKS ARE AVAILABLE OF THE ANY BUILDINGS.
SO THAT'S WHAT TRIGGERS THE, THE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE MANY.
UH, WE, WE'VE GOT A DECENT AMOUNT.
'CAUSE EVERY, EVERY APARTMENT COMPLEX IS PRETTY MUCH THREE OR MORE.
HOW OFTEN DOES THAT HAP IS THAT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN? AND UM, AND ALSO DOES THAT REQUIRE FLUSHING THE HYDRANT? IS THAT THE CONCERN? RIGHT.
SO IT USED TO BE TWICE A YEAR, BUT THEY, UH, WENT THROUGH A FEW YEARS BACK AND THEY CHANGED THAT TO ONCE A YEAR AS A REQUIREMENT FOR ISO CREDITS.
UM, AND SO THAT'S REQUIRED TO DO FLUSHING AND IT SUPPOSED TO BE A FULL PRESSURE FLUSH.
THERE'S ALSO, UH, FLOW TESTS THAT WE DO WHERE WE ACTUALLY HOOK UP AND, AND DO, UH, PEDO AND STATIC READINGS AND TO DETERMINE THE ACTUAL FLOW, NOT JUST FLUSH THE HYDRANTS.
UH, AND SO THOSE, THEY USUALLY WILL COME IN AND JUST PICK CERTAIN AREAS THAT THEY GIVE US AT.
UH, BUT WE DID GET CREDIT FOR THE, UH, SO THERE'S CERTAIN HYDRANTS THAT HAVE TO BE FLUSHED MONTHLY.
AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF, UH, BY YOUR UTILITY DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN, UH, ANY MAINTENANCE REPAIRS, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO WE DIDN'T GET ZERO CREDIT IN THERE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING TO, TO BE ABLE TO GET BETTER POINTS NEXT TIME.
COUNSEL, ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF.
UP NEXT WATER UPDATE WITH EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE GRIMS BOW.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, DAN GRIMS, BO, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND TODAY, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, BCRA EMERGENCY BARGE.
UM, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, IS THE, UH, THE LAKE WAS AT A POINT WHERE WE THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE ACTION, UM, IN DECEMBER.
UH, SO WE WANTED TO BRIEF THE COUNCIL, BUT BECAUSE, UH, WE HAD SOME RAIN AND THE LAKE RAISED ABOUT FIVE FEET.
UM, WE WILL, UH, WE ARE DELAYING IT, UM, A COUPLE, FEW MONTHS HERE.
SO WE'LL KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT.
BUT IT'S STILL A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT AND, UH, THE LAKE LEVELS A LITTLE BIT IN GENERAL.
SO THIS IS A GRAPH OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING OF THE INFLOWS.
UM, INFLOWS IS THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT ACTUALLY GOES TO THE LAKE TO FILL IT UP.
SO WHATEVER TRIBUTARIES ARE ARE FLOWING IN THERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE LIGHT BLUE IS THE AVERAGE SINCE 1942.
AND THE DARKER BLUE IS THE KIND OF THE AVERAGE FROM 2008 TO 2015.
AND THEN, UH, THE, UH, PURPLE IS, UM, WHAT'S CURRENTLY TODAY.
AND YOU CAN SEE HOW DRAMATICALLY LOW THEY ARE.
UM, I MEAN, THIS ONE'S SO LOW, THIS 91 IS SO LOW THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO STATE THE NUMBER THAT IT'S 91 RIGHT THERE.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE GOT THE RAIN IN OCTOBER.
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UM, AND SO THAT WAS GOOD NEWS AND, UM, AND IT, AND IT HELPED.UM, BUT WE COULD USE 45 MORE FEET OF THAT TYPE OF RAIN.
SO, UM, FIVE FEET WOULD CERTAINLY HELP.
UM, AGAIN, UM, THE, THE INFLOWS INTO A LAKE BUCHANAN AND TRAVIS AND THE 22, AND YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT YEAR, IT WASN'T, UM, UM, ANY BETTER AND PROBABLY OVERALL WAS EVEN, UH, AS WORSE.
SO WE HAD THE L C'S, UH, L C'S OWNERS MEETING TODAY, AND THEY TALKED ABOUT TRIGGER POINTS, UH, WHICH WE ARE IN A TRIGGER POINT RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE BELOW, UH, 900,000 ACRE FEET OF STORAGE CAPACITY IN THE COMBINED LAKES.
SO WE'RE IN STAGE TWO CURRENTLY, UM, IN LCRA.
SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY WANT TO, UM, REVAMP THE TRIGGER POINTS AND MAKE THEM OCCUR, UM, MORE RAPIDLY.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THE FIRST TRIGGER POINTS ARE AROUND, UM, 1,400,000 ACRE FEET.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS 900,000 ACRE FEET.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE'S 600,000 ACRE FEET.
AND SO THEY WANNA PUT SOME STEPS IN THERE TO, TO SLOW DOWN THE USE OF THE WATER SOONER.
THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THESE INFLOWS AND ALSO HAVE A NOSE AS A PARALLEL TRIGGER POINT THAT SAYS WE MIGHT HAVE THE CAPACITY, BUT IF WE'RE IN A, THIS RANGE OF SAY, 1.4, UH, MILLION ACRE FEET AND 1 MILLION ACRE FEET, BUT WE HAVE AN INFLOW THAT'S BEEN LOW FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE MONTHS, THEN WE'RE GONNA INITIATE THE TRIGGER POINT AT THAT POINT.
SO IT'S KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT WAYS OF LOOKING AT INITIATING THE TRIGGER POINT FOR US TO GO INTO THE NEXT STAGE OF WATER RESTRICTIONS.
UM, FROM THE RA'S LEVEL, WHICH, UM, FROM THE MEETING, UM, IT WENT OVER, I THINK, WELL, AND THIS IS A MATTER OF WORKING OUT THE DETAILS, BUT IT'S NEEDED.
UM, AND SO IT WAS GOOD, GOOD FOR THEM.
WHAT PROMPTED IT IS THAT THE GRAPH YOU'LL SEE SHORTLY, BUT IT'S THE LAST COUPLE SUMMERS THAT SHOW THEM THE DATA THAT, HEY, WE NEED TO REEVALUATE HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND TAKE, UM, ACTION SOONER.
SO THIS IS A LINK NOW, AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS THIS, KIND OF GIVE YOU A FEEL WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS TODAY.
IS THIS, THIS LINE YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT HERE IS OUR RAW WATER LINE GOING TO OUR PLANT, AND THERE'S OUR BARGE RIGHT OUT THERE.
AND SO, UM, I'VE ALREADY BEEN KIND OF JOKED ABOUT, BUT I GUESS I COULD GO OUT THERE AND DO A VISUAL INSPECTION OF OUR WATERLINE NOW.
UM, SO THAT TELLS YOU HOW LOW THE, THE LAKE LEVEL IS, IS CURRENTLY.
SO THE EMERGENCY BARGE, UM, WE DID MEET WITH, UM, BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA, THAT WAS JUST BEFORE THE RAIN, THE 17TH.
AND THEN, SO WE WERE LIKE, OKAY, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START TAKING ACTION IN, UH, IN DECEMBER.
AND, UM, AND SO WE, WE HAD A MEETING AND, UM, WE SAID WE WERE GONNA, UH, BRING FORTH A WITH, THEY'RE CALLING AN EMERGENCY RESOLUTION.
AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A BIT MORE ABOUT THE ILA THAT WE HAVE WITH CEDAR PARK AND, AND, AND WHAT'S ENTAILED IN THAT FROM A, BUT SOME OF THE, SOME OF WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THAT, UM, THIS IS THE, UH, THIS IS THE EMERGENCY BARGE.
THIS IS WAS BACK IN THIS THOUSAND 13 WHEN IT WAS PUT TOGETHER.
THIS IS THE MANIFOLD THAT, UM, THE LINES FROM THE BARGE ALL GO TO THAT GO TO A COMMON HEADER.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY UNDERWATER IN THE LAKE, UM, CURRENTLY.
AND THEN THIS IS THE PICTURE BEFORE THEY SANK IT.
UM, BUT THEY FLOATED OUT THE WATER LINE, UM, FOR THE EMERGENCY BARGE, AND THEN THEY FILLED IT AND IT SANK IT.
AND NOW IT'S, IT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
AND, UM, AND THEN AGAIN THE NOVEMBER 16TH, WE JUST HAD THE MEETING TODAY AND I KIND OF GAVE YOU THE, THE HIGHLIGHTS ON THE CONVERSATION AND THE, THE TRIGGER POINTS BEING REEVALUATED.
UM, THIS CAME OUT, UM, FROM LCRA.
IT'S A PREDICTION OF, UM, WHERE THE LAKES COULD BE.
WE'RE RIGHT THERE, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT LITTLE BUMP WE GOT.
UM, AND THE REST OF THE LINES ARE PERCENTAGES.
SO IF WE HAD A REALLY RAINY DAY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST ABOUT EVERY SINGLE DAY THEY'RE, THEY'RE PREDICTING IN THAT TIMEFRAME, WE WOULD BE LAKE FULL, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT.
OF COURSE, THE BOTTOM LINE OF THAT IS, IS IF WE HAVE NO RAIN AT ALL, PRECIPITATION IN THE LAKE RECEIVES NO WATER, THEN THAT BOTTOM LINE IS WHERE WE'LL BE.
AND I HIGHLIGHTED THIS SECTION RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE SIX 20 MARK.
SO BELOW THAT, AT 6 23, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THE B-C-R-E-A BARGE, UH, DOESN'T FUNCTION ANYMORE.
AND AT SIX 18, UH, CEDAR PARK AND THE LEANER BARGE DOESN'T FUNCTION ANYMORE.
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SO THEY'RE PREDICTING THAT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY WITH NO RAIN, REMEMBER NO RAIN.BUT I'M GONNA GIVE YOU SOME GOOD NEWS HERE, IS THAT BY NOVEMBER-ISH, WE, WE WOULD HIT THAT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS SERIOUS.
UM, AND BECAUSE, UH, THE EMERGENCY BARGE, AND YOU'LL SEE SOME PICTURES OF WHERE IT IS NOW, IT'S NOT PUT TOGETHER AND THAT TAKES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, SOME, SOME HIGHLIGHTS IS, UM, AND, AND IT WAS JUST APPROVED, UH, THIS COUNCIL APPROVED IT, UM, THIS PAST SUMMER AND, UM, WHICH WAS GOOD.
UM, WE UPDATED IT, UM, AND THEN GOT IT, UM, APPROVED FOR THIS GO AROUND.
UM, IT'S FOR 30 MILLION GALLONS, UM, PER DAY.
UM, UM, AND THEN THE COST ESTIMATE TO PUT THE BARGE BACK TOGETHER, AND, AND IT'S IN THE ILA, THIS, THIS AMOUNT IS ABOUT $5.6 MILLION.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE SPLIT, UH, IT'S, IT'S 70 30 FOR BOTH USAGE AND COST ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, MAINTAINING AND THIS BARGE, PUTTING IT TOGETHER, THE EASEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THIS BARGE PLACED IN THE LAKE AND THE, THE CONTINUOUS EASEMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP THE, THE RAW WATER IN PLACE.
UM, CURRENTLY AT SOME POINT, UH, WHEN THE DEEP WATER INTAKE IS DONE, THIS WON'T BE NEEDED.
AND, AND, UH, WE WON'T HAVE TO BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION HOPEFULLY.
UM, AGAIN, SO THE TENTATIVE PLAN IS TO, UM, PRESENT AN EMERGENCY RESOLUTION, UM, TO EACH OF THE COUNCILS AND CEDAR PARK'S GONNA WORK ON, UM, DRAFTING, DRAFTING THAT UP.
AND, UM, AND KIND OF WHAT IT'LL DO IS, UM, ALLOW, UH, THE COUNCIL TO PROVIDE, UH, IF YOU WANNA SAY AUTHORIZATION TO THE CITY MANAGERS, IF HE SAID EACH CITY TO MOVE FORWARD AS THINGS MOVE, PROGRESS TO HAVE THE CONTRACTS, UH, APPROVED AND AND SO FORTH.
SO RIGHT NOW, WE WANT TO TRY TO GET THE RESOLUTION IN PLACE SO THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE TO BRING THE CONTRACT, IT CAN, CAN KIND OF GO FORTH.
UM, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING KIND OF AT THE MARCH TIMEFRAME.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE NOVEMBER, AND IT TAKES SIX TO SEVEN MONTHS OR EIGHT MONTHS BACK THAT UP FROM NOVEMBER BACK, AND THAT'S ABOUT MARCH.
SO THE HIGHLIGHTED ONE IS IMPORTANT.
THERE IS NO GUARANTEE IT'LL BE NEEDED.
AND THE CONTRACT'S WRITTEN AS IF WE GET SO FAR, WE STOP.
I MEAN, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GET 10 FEET OF LAKE, WE STOP WHERE WE'RE AT, AND WE, WE DON'T CONTINUE ON WITH, WITH WORK ON THE BARGE AND THE CONTRACT STOPS.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF RISK ON THE CONTRACTOR TAKING THAT BECAUSE OF THAT.
IT'S NOT A GUARANTEED FULL CONTRACT.
UM, THE, HOWEVER, THE IMPORTANT THING IS, AND, AND YOU CAN SEE THE LAKE LEVELS THAT I DISCUSSED.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 32, UM, 23 IS FOR THE BCIR CRITICALITY.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS IS THAT IF, IF THE LAKES DON'T COOPERATE, UH, THE LAKE LEVEL AND, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE BARGE READY AND THE BARGES THAT ARE OUT THERE ON THE GROUND, WE HAVE ABOUT 200,000 PEOPLE WITHOUT WATER.
AND THAT'S JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE.
SO EVEN WE MIGHT BE SPENDING MONEY TO FACILITATE MOVING THIS AHEAD BECAUSE, UM, WE CAN'T MAKE A MISTAKE ON THIS ONE.
SO THERE COULD BE SOME INITIAL COSTS.
AND THEN IF WE GET SOME RAIN, WHICH UM, I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE, THEN WE CAN STOP.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, OF HISTORY AND, UM, I REALLY, REALLY LIKED THIS GRAPH WAS, UM, YOU CAN SEE IN 22, UH, WE DROPPED 21 FEET AND THEN IN, IN, UM, IN, IN 23 WE DROPPED KIND OF 12 FEET OVER THE SUMMER AND THEN WE GOT THAT RAIN AND IT RAISED ABOUT FOUR FEET.
WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS GRAPH, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS A COUPLE THINGS.
ONE IS THAT IN EARLY 22 WE WERE AT 6 61 AND NOW WE'RE AT 6 32.
PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL DROP IN JUST TWO SUMMERS REALLY.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE GRAPH GOING DOWN AND THEN CONTINUING TO GO DOWN.
WE WERE, WE WERE AS LOW AS YOU KNOW, UM, 6 27 OR UH, 6 27.
THAT'S WHY WE WERE SERIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT IT IN OCTOBER.
WHAT'S INTERESTING IS, UM, AND WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT KIND OF THIS TRIGGER POINTS AND WATER CONSERVATION AT THE MEETING TODAY AT THE OWNERS MEETING WITH, WITH ALL THE OWNERS IS IN 22, WE DROPPED 21 FEET, BUT THERE WASN'T ANY WATER RESTRICTIONS, NO WATER RESTRICTIONS ON ANY OF THE CITIES.
SO YOU COULD SEE HOW HOW FAST IT DROPPED IN 23, EVERYBODY WAS IN WATER RESTRICTIONS.
IN JULY, UM, BEGINNING OF JULY, LCRA WENT TO STAGE TWO.
AND SO YOU COULD SEE HOW DRAMATIC THAT WATER CONSERVATION MAKES, YOU KNOW, HALF THE LAKE, UM, HALF
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THE AMOUNT OF THE LAKE, UM, DROPPED.SO INSTEAD OF 21 FEET, IT ONLY DROPPED, YOU KNOW, AROUND 12 FEET.
SO IT'S IMPRESSIVE TO SEE WHAT WATER CONSERVATION IN THIS CASE FORCE WATER CONSERVATION THROUGH WATER RESTRICTIONS, BUT WHAT WATER CONSERVATION CAN DO TO PREVENT THE LAKE FROM DROPPING SO LOW FROM ONE SUMMER TO THE NEXT.
AND IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE THIS BECAUSE WE COULD SEE THE CASE WHERE NO WATER RESTRICTIONS REALLY PUT IN PLACE.
AND THEN THIS PAST SUMMER, EVERYBODY WAS IN WATER RESTRICTIONS.
AND SO IT'S A PRETTY AMAZING CONTRAST.
UM, THIS IS JUST KIND OF INDICATES THE TOP NINE, UM, LEVELS.
AND LIKE I SAID, IN OCTOBER 25TH, WE GOT DOWN TO 26.9.
AND SO THAT'S WHY OCTOBER 17TH IN THAT RANGE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE EMERGENCY BARGE AND HAVING TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
THE DESIGN CURRENTLY IS COMPLETED, SO THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO ACTUALLY PUT IT OUT FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO START, UM, PUTTING IT TOGETHER.
SO THIS PICTURE SHOWS RIGHT NOW YOU SAW THE BARGE ALL PUT TOGETHER, WHERE RIGHT NOW THE, ALL THE BARGE PIECES ARE SITTING AT OUR WA OUR WA OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT AT SANDY CREEK.
AND THIS BLUE ONE SHOWS KIND OF THE AREA.
AND THIS BLOW UP SHOWS YOU EACH OF THE PONTOONS WITH VARIOUS VALVES, PIPINGS, AND OTHER PIECES THAT ARE, THAT ARE LOCATED THERE.
SO ALL THAT HAS TO BE TRANSPORTED TO THE LAKE, THEN PUT ALL TOGETHER.
AND THEN THE PUMPS ARE ACTUALLY AT CEDAR PARK AND AIR WAREHOUSE.
AND, UM, THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PIECES, PARTS THAT WE HAVE TO BUY WIRING AND OTHER THINGS THAT JUST HAVEN'T DONE WELL OVER THE TIMEFRAME FROM 20 13, 20 12 TO NOW.
SO THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PIECES, PARTS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE REPLACED.
UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT THAT'S WHERE IT'S LOCATED RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE, ALL THE, UH, ALL THE BARGE PIECES AND PICTURES DON'T, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE, THE TUNNEL DON'T DO JUSTICE.
AND WHEN YOU'RE WALKING OUT THERE, IT'S, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A LOT OF MATERIAL THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE MOVED AGAIN.
UM, KIND OF SHOWING YOU ALL, ALL THE PIECES.
IT'S, UH, IT'S SEVEN PUMPS, SEVEN GENERATORS ON HERE THAT, THAT, UH, THAT, THAT MAKE THE, UH, THAT MAKE THE WATER.
AND THEN THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF, OF COURSE, YOU SAW THE PIPE, THE BARGE WILL BE LOCATED HERE.
HERE'S WHERE THE, UH, POWER SUPPLY IS, UM, THAT'S BEEN INSTALLED FOR THE BARGE AND THEN IT'S PUMPED ALL THE WAY, UM, TO THE NECESSARY RAW WATER LINES TO SUPPORT CEDAR PARK AND LEANDER.
AND SO THE OTHER THING, UM, THAT WAS, UH, TALKED ABOUT AT THE LCRA, UM, OWNERS MEETING WAS, UM, THAT WE'RE IN, UM, EL NINO.
AND SO THE PATTERN FOR THE NEXT, UH, FIVE TO SIX MONTHS LOOKS MUCH MORE RAINY THAN NOT RAINY.
AND SO, UH, SO THE, THE SPECIFIC MONTHS THAT LOOK RAINY ARE KIND OF DECEMBER-ISH, UM, AND THEN, UM, APRIL, MAY.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE AS A GROUP, CEDAR PARK AND US ARE TRYING TO CROSS OUR FINGERS AND HOPE WE GET MORE RAIN AND CAN KIND OF KEEP DELAYING, DELAYING THAT EMERGENCY BARGE PROCESS.
UM, BUT UM, AGAIN, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS, THE TALK WAS BECOMING VERY SERIOUS.
AND SO, UH, IT WAS JUST A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE ON WITH THIS PRESENTATION SO THAT THE, YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE POTENTIAL STILL COULD BE THERE COME THE FIRST PART OF, UM, 24.
COUNSEL, ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, USUALLY I LOVE YOUR SLIDES.
I DON'T LOVE YOUR SLIDES TONIGHT.
NOW, USUALLY I LOVE YOUR SLIDES.
THESE ONES WERE VERY SAD, SO LET'S WAIT FOR THAT RAIN.
WELL, I, IF I, THEY DIDN'T SEND 'EM OUT YET AND I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE BROUGHT SOME OF THE GOOD NEWS WEATHER FORECAST SLIDES THAT SHOW THE WET MONTHS, YOU KNOW, AND THEY SPENT SOME TIME ON THAT AND, UM, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN GOOD TO ADD HERE.
BUT, BUT PICTURE IN YOUR MIND, SOME RAINY, SOME RAINY MONTHS OVER THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS.
SO I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS SURE.
AND ONE OBSERVATION THAT I, I MAYBE A QUESTION AS I WAS WRITING THE QUESTION, YOU WERE ANSWERING THE QUESTION AND YOU SAID, UM, UNDER THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES AS WE HAVE TODAY, WHEN THE DEEP WATER INTAKE IS COMPLETE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
SO, SO THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THIS DEEP WATER INTAKE IS SOLVING THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE.
UM, IT IS, UM, IT'S SOLVING THE LIMITED CAPACITY OF THE BARGES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
UM, 'CAUSE OTHERWISE, IF WE WANTED TO EXPAND THE BCI, WE'D HAVE TO EXPAND THOSE BARGES AND, AND, UM, BECAUSE OF THE SHALLOWNESS THERE, IT'S NOT RESILIENT TO, UM, DROUGHTS.
AND SO THEN WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A LARGER EMERGENCY BARGE.
AND SO IT'S ACTUALLY TAKING CARE OF NOT ONLY THE CURRENT BARGES, BUT IF WE DIDN'T BUILD A DEEP WATER INTAKE, ANY EXPANSION
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OF THOSE BARGES THAT WE'D NEED FOR THE FUTURE.AND SO KIND OF A DOUBLE WHAMMY THERE.
UM, AND, AND I THINK YOU'RE THE ONE THAT ASKED THE QUESTION TO ME ONCE BEFORE.
SO, SO THE DEEP WATER INTAKE, HOW, HOW DEEP IS IT? AND, AND SO THAT'S, THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION AND I'LL BRING IT UP TO THE GROUP.
AT SIX 18, OUR BARGE GOES AWAY AND THEN THE EMERGENCY BARGE IS IN A DEEPER AREA AND AT SOME POINT IT CAN GO AWAY.
THE DEEP WATER INTAKE, THE BOTTOM SCREEN IS AROUND LIKE FIVE 50 SAY IN THAT RANGE.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING FROM SIX 18 DOWN TO FIVE 50, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER 60 OR 70 FEET OF WATER LEVEL BEFORE WE'D HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE DEEP WATER INTAKE.
AND AT THAT POINT, I, I THINK AS A, AS A AREA, WE'D HAVE MUCH BIGGER PROBLEMS. MM-HMM.
BUT, UH, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE DEEP WATER INTAKE IS PROVIDING.
AND, AND THAT'S WHY THE RED, WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT THAT PROJECT IS, UM, BEING COMPLETED AND, AND, UM, AND INITIATED.
UM, THE RAIN AND WEATHER LIKE UP NORTH WHERE IT DOES, DOESN'T THAT AFFECT THE LAKE LEVELS HERE TOO? I MEAN, IT CAN NOT RAIN HERE, BUT IT CAN RAIN ELSEWHERE.
AND WE'RE IT'S STILL FEEDING INTO LAKE TRAVIS, CORRECT? YEAH.
IT'S, IF IT'S IN THE WATERSHED MM-HMM.
SO IT, THE RAIN COULD BE MILES AWAY 'CAUSE THE WATERSHEDS ARE ACTUALLY PRETTY LARGE AND, UM, SO WE MIGHT NOT SEE IT HERE, BUT IF IT'S IN THE WATERSHED, YEAH, THAT CERTAINLY HELPS.
SO, UM, THE LAST ONE, AND I, I KNOW WE DON'T TECHNICALLY HAVE THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT IT'S MORE OF A, A HYPOTHETICAL OR A, AN OBSERVATION.
PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT IN THE CITY, WE DON'T KNOW THE CONNECTIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CONNECTED TO THE CITY.
BUT WHEN THEY HAVE A A WELL, DO WE KNOW TYPICALLY THERE'S NO SPRINKLER SYSTEM ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, CORRECT? I'M NOT SURE YOUR QUESTION.
WELL, SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS, THAT'S, THAT HAS A WELL, AND THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE USING THE WATER THAT'S ON THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA USE THAT TO, TO KEEP THEIR YARD GREEN IS, AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE HAVING LIVED IN THE COUNTRY AND GROWING UP.
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A SPRINKLER SYSTEM.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS, IS SOMETHING THAT'S CUSTOMARY TODAY OR IF WE EVEN KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, I WOULD NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
BUT ANYBODY WHO HAS A PERSONAL WILL ON THEIR PROPERTY CAN PRETTY MUCH DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
I'VE JUST NEVER SEEN ANYBODY THAT HAS I YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY, YOU'RE JUST MAKING A, YOU'RE JUST MAKING A POINT AS FAR AS WELL, YES.
WHAT HAPPENS IN THOSE TIMES, WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, WHAT IS IT 75% IS MM-HMM.
SO AT THE LCA DRINKABLE WATER IS USED ON, ON LAWN.
PUTTING WATER ON THE GROUND IS A HUGE ISSUE.
AND THEN TWO IS WATER BEING PUT ON THE GROUND.
UM, AND SO THOSE ARE THE TWO KIND OF LARGEST, YOU KNOW, UM, I WOULD SAY KIND OF LIKE EVAPORATION OF WATER CASES, BUT MUNICIPALITIES USE A LOT OF WATER.
WELL, I JUST HATE THAT I KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT WATER AS, AS I DO, AND I STILL KNOW SO LITTLE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HAD, I THINK WE ALL HAVE A BETTER EDUCATION ON THINGS.
OH, YOU DO? NEVER EXPECTED, I EXPECTED TO HAVE TELL PEOPLE THIS COUNCIL, EVERY TIME YOU PRESENT SOMETHING AND WE ASK QUESTIONS AND GET TO SEE WHAT WE DID YESTERDAY, NO, I TELL PEOPLE CONSTANTLY, THIS IS A SMART COUNCIL AND, UM, AND, AND BE HONEST, LISTEN TO LCRA AND OTHERS, UM, AND SOME OF THE MORE REGIONAL THINKING ABOUT, THEY WERE TALKING THAT ALL THE CITIES MIGHT NEED TO GO TO MAYBE ONE DAY WATERING MORE PERMANENTLY AND OTHER THINGS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN BE SMART ENOUGH, UM, NOW AND IN THE FUTURE FOR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REGIONALLY, YOU KNOW, GET THIS UNDER, UNDER CONTROL.
AND, AND, AND I, AND I LOVE THIS COMMENT THAT THEY MADE ALL THE CHEAP WATER'S GONE.
THE VICE PRESIDENT STOOD UP THERE AND SAYS, ALL THE CHEAP WATER'S GONE.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING NEARBY THAT ARE ALSO USING OUT WATER ARE NOT GONNA BE FRIENDLY ABOUT IT.
AND SO, YEAH, IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA GET TOUGHER.
SO THAT WAS A KIND OF A GOOD POINT FOR THEM TO MAKE.
'CAUSE THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR FUTURE WATER SUPPLIES? AND SO THEY ARE WORKING ON OTHERS, UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, UH, IT'S GONNA BE EXPENSIVE.
I MEAN, THEY WERE PRETTY, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH THAT.
AND, UH, AND THE REQUIREMENTS COULD BE BECOME MORE DIFFICULT.
GROUNDWATER, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS, UM, BECOMING MORE CHALLENGING, GETTING PERMITS AND STUFF BECAUSE OF THAT.
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SO, THANK YOU.SO I AM, UH, I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE'RE BEING SO INTENTIONAL AND I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT THE CONVERSATION IS HAPPENING, LIKE IT'S HAPPENING HERE, SO THAT WAY IT'S RECORDED AND EVERYBODY CAN HEAR.
IT'S NOT JUST BEING SENT TO COUNSEL.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW, UH, EXACTLY.
SO I APPRECIATE THE THOROUGHNESS AND, UM, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE IN THIS POSITION, WE WOULDN'T BE EDUCATED ON, ON MAKING GOOD DECISIONS LIKE THIS IF IT WASN'T FOR YOU.
SO THANK YOU FOR LIKE THE, YOU, YOU DO A LOT IN THIS AREA, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S, UH, THIS HAS GOTTA BE SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF HEAVY ALL THE TIME, BUT WE APPRECIATE IT.
SO, UM, SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR, FOR DOING IT IN THIS MANNER TOO.
ALRIGHT, WELL, IT'S, UH, MY PLEASURE AND IT'S A TEAM EFFORT.
I HAVE A GREAT TEAM STANDING BEHIND ME, UM, HELPING WITH THIS.
SO, AND, AND THE OTHER CITIES ARE, IT'S AMAZING.
THE, THE REGIONAL THINKING IS STARTING TO BECOME MORE JELLED.
RIGHT? AND SO LET'S, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE ALL GOTTA TALK ABOUT, OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA SAY NO TO JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING IN THIS CITY.
SO, UM, I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION, UM, ON THERE.
IS IT JUST THAT CEDAR PARK USES A LOT MORE WATER THAN US AND THEY REQUIRE A LOT MORE? I SAW THAT THERE WAS A 70 30 SPLIT ON THE EMERGENCY SITUATION, AND I KNOW NINE IS ALMOST WHAT OUR SANDY CREEK WOULD GIVE US ANYWAYS, SO IT KIND OF GETS US THROUGH THE BARE MINIMUM OF WHAT WE NEED.
BUT IS THAT STILL, ARE WE STILL GOOD WITH, UH, I GUESS IF, IF THERE'S 30 MILLION GALLONS AND WE'RE GIVING UP 21 AND OR AND, AND ONLY DOING NINE, IS THAT, IS THAT, IS THAT REALLY WHAT WHAT THEY'RE USING AS WELL TOO? LIKE THE PROPORTIONS? CORRECT.
PROBABLY FOR 2013, THEY ABSOLUTELY WERE.
'CAUSE IN 2013, I'M SURE, I MEAN WE PROBABLY WEREN'T PEAK PROBABLY WASN'T USING MUCH ABOVE NINE OR 10 OR 11.
ANY PLANT CAN DO 12 AND, AND, AND WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION TO GET IT THERE.
RIGHT NOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT DOING BETWEEN NINE AND 10.
UM, SO, UM, SO YEAH, THERE, THERE'S PLANT LIMITATIONS PROBABLY BASED ON THAT THERE PLANTS DESIGNED FOR 26 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
SO EVEN A 21 IS NOT EVEN PROVIDING THEIR PLANT THE FULL AMOUNT THAT IT CAN DO.
SO IF YOU DO A PERCENTAGE OF 21 TO 26 AS NINE IS TO 12, FROM A PERCENTAGE STANDPOINT, IT'S PROBABLY BE PRETTY CLOSE.
UM, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THE POPULATION WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
YEAH, THAT'S, IM JUST SAYING IS, ARE, ARE THE PROPORTIONS CORRECT ON THE EMERGENCY BARGE SITUATION? WELL, AT THAT TIME THEY, THEY WERE, BUT UM, FROM MY STANDPOINT, UM, WE REALLY COULDN'T TAKE A WHOLE LOT MORE TO SANDY CREEK ANYWAY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN IMMEDIATE, UM, GO INTO STAGE FOUR AND SO, SO DOES CEDAR PARK AND, AND UM, WE DO THE EMERGENCY BARGE AND, AND THEN WE, AND THE, THE CITY DID WELL THE LAST TIME AND WE PUT THE GREEN LIGHT YELLOW LIGHTS STOPLIGHTS OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
SO, UM, BUT WE KNOCKED ON WOOD AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GET SOME RAIN, SO, SO WE ALL WANT RAIN FOR CHRISTMAS, RIGHT? MAYBE IT'S GONNA COME IN A BIG BOWL.
EVERYWHERE OR ALL ACROSS TEXAS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU MR. SBO FOR BEING SO FORWARD THINKING AND, UM, AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LCRA, YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING ABOUT HOW YOU HELPED TO SECURE US MORE WATER RIGHTS IN THE FUTURE AND I JUST APPRECIATE THAT.
WELL, WE ARE ACTUALLY, UM, TOOK THAT ON BOARD AND JUST SO THE COUNCIL REMEMBERS, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, BUT WE'VE ALREADY, UH, WENT AND TOOK THAT AND, UH, ACQUIRED AN ADDITIONAL 7,000 ACRE FEET.
SO WE'RE AT, UH, 31,000, 31,000 ACRE FEET.
SEE HOW GOOD THE STAFF IS BACK THERE? YEAH.
UM, SO WE WENT FROM 24 TO 31, SO WE'VE ALREADY TOOK THAT, THAT STEP KNOWING FROM THE LAST TIME JEAN AND I WENT TO THE, TO LC R'S OWNER MEETING AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, WATER'S GETTING TIGHT.
AND SO WE WERE LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA PUT OUR APPLICATION IN.
AND YOU ALREADY ALL APPROVED IT, SO VERY SMART.
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MOVING ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA, COUNSEL, YOU'RE VOTING ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS NINE THROUGH 19.IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES.
UNANIM, DID YOU VOTE? OKAY, SORRY.
MOVING INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS,
[20. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case Z-22-0024 to amend the current zoning of PUD/TOD (Planned Unit Development, Transit Oriented Development District) with the OS (Open Space Sector), CD (Conventional Development Sector), S1 (General Sector), and S2 (Station Sector) to adopt the House Tract Mixed Use PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the SFT-2-A (Single-Family Townhouse), CH-2-A (Cottage Housing), and LC-2-B (Local Commercial) base zoning districts on two (2) parcels of land approximately 43.07 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R031601 and R031325; and generally located 1,000 feet to the east of the intersection of Main Street and Hero Way on the south side of Hero Way, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ZONING CASE Z 22 DASH 0 0 24 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF PUD DASH TOD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WITH THE OSS OPEN SPACE SECTOR CD, CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT SECTOR, S ONE GENERAL SECTOR AND S TWO STATION SECTOR TO ADOPT THE HOUSE TRACKED MIXED USE POD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE SFT TWO, A SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE CH TWO A COTTAGE HOUSING AND LC
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TWO B LOCAL COMMERCIAL BASE ZONING DISTRICTS ON TWO PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 43.07 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA.EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, GRIFFIN.
UM, THIS IS A, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE HOUSE TRACKED, UH, MIXED USE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THIS PROPERTY'S LOCATED ON HERO WAY AND IT'S IN A INTERESTING SITUATION IN THE TODU WHERE IT'S AT THE INTERSECTION OF THREE DIFFERENT SECTORS.
UM, SO THE WAY THE TOD WAS SET UP, UM, YOU WOULD HAVE THESE SECTORS THAT GET, UM, DEVELOPED TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY UNIT.
UM, THIS INCLUDES SOME REMNANTS, SO IT'S KIND OF AN AWKWARD PROPERTY FOR THE DEVELOPER.
UM, SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY PROPOSED A PUD THAT UM, INCLUDES COTTAGE HOUSING, TOWNHOUSE AND, UM, LOCAL COMMERCIAL.
UM, THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
COTTAGE HOUSING IS, UH, NORTHWEST AND THEN TOWNHOUSE IS NORTHEAST.
UM, THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY IS PREDOMINANTLY FLOODPLAIN AND UM, I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT 17 ACRES THAT'LL BE DEDICATED, UM, AS PARKLAND FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THIS REQUEST WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN SEPTEMBER.
UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE WATER RESOLUTION.
UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING 200 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
UM, WE STARTED, UH, THIS PROJECT WITH THE DEVELOPER PROPOSING ALL TOWNHOUSES AND WORKED WITH THEM TO REDUCE THE DENSITY.
AND IT'S, UM, IT'S AN AREA THAT'S CHALLENGING TO DEVELOP COMMERCIALLY.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION AND I'LL ALSO BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M LEAH BOJO WITH THE RENER GROUP HERE, UH, TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION TO YOU, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, SO AGAIN, JUST TO ORIENT YOU TO THE SITE, UM, WE'RE JUST EAST OF 180 3 ON A MID-BLOCK LOCATION, UM, BETWEEN HERE WAY AND 2243.
UM, IT IS VACANT TODAY AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HERE AND, AND A LITTLE BETTER HERE, UM, HOW THE SITE IS KIND OF BISECTED INTO THOSE THREE SECTIONS.
UM, TWO OF THEM AT THE TOP ARE NARROW FRONT, HAVE VERY NARROW FRONTAGE AND ARE DEEP MAKING THEM DIFFICULT FOR COMMERCIAL USES.
UM, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE DESIGNATED THE SOUTHERN MOST PORTION FOR THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL USES THERE ALONG 2243.
UM, I ALSO, I THINK SIMILAR TO WHAT, UM, ROBIN JUST SAID, IT'S THE TOTAL SIDE AREA IS OVER 43 ACRES, BUT ONLY, UM, ABOUT 21 AND A HALF ARE ACTUALLY DEVELOPABLE.
SO THAT FLOODPLAIN IN THAT CREEK AREA IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE SITE.
UM, THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THAT IS THAT IT ALLOW, ALLOWS US TO, UM, CONTRIBUTE MIGHTILY TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, THIS IS REALLY IS, AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT LATER, EXCUSE ME, BUT THIS IS A VERY KIND OF CRUCIAL PIECE OF THE TRAIL PLAN FOR BOTH SUBDIVISIONS TO THE SOUTHEAST AND LEADING TO NORTHLINE AND, UM, AND THE, THE RED LINE STOP AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, SO HERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE CONCEPT SITE LAYOUT AND LAND USE PLAN LOOKS LIKE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE, UM, TAKING ACTION ON TONIGHT.
THE BLUE SECTION IS THE COTTAGE HOUSING.
THAT'S ABOUT 58 UNITS, 50 UNITS ON ABOUT SIX ACRES.
THE PURPLE IS THE SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOMES, WHICH IS 151 UNITS ON ABOUT JUST OVER 10 AND 10 ACRES.
AND THEN THE RED IS THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS ABOUT 20,000 SQUARE FEET ON FIVE AND A THIRD ACRES.
SO HERE, UH, JUST A SIDE BY SIDE OF THE ZONING MAP WITH OUR REQUEST AND, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IF, AND I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THE WATER IN A MINUTE.
IF WE WEREN'T IN THIS WATER SITUATION, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A, A SORT OF A SLAM DUNK.
BUT I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF WORK WE'VE DONE WITH STAFF.
WE'VE DONE QUITE A BIT OF WORK WITH STAFF, UM, TO GET TO THIS PROPOSAL.
UM, BASED ON, ON KIND OF WEIGHING OUT BOTH OF THOSE TWO IMPORTANT, UM, ISSUES, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE WATER RESOURCE RESOLUTION.
UM, SO HERE, ZONING IN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE COMP PLAN.
UM, WE ARE URBAN MIXED USE SECTOR AND SO THE GUIDANCE INTERPRETATION SECTION, LET'S SEE IF I CAN USE THIS LIGHT RIGHT HERE, POINTS OUT THAT, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, THE SECTION CALLS FOR A VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AND COMMERCIAL USES, WHICH WE OBVIOUSLY ARE ABLE TO FULFILL HERE.
IT ALSO CALLS OUT CONNECTIVITY FOR BOTH TRANSPORTATION AND RECREATIONAL SERVICES, UH, PURPOSES RIGHT HERE, UM, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT AND AGAIN, SORT OF POINTS TO HOW IMPORTANT THAT THAT TRAIL IS AS FAR AS BEING KIND OF A LINCHPIN TO THE REST OF THE SYSTEM.
UM, AND THEN THAT SMALLER TABLE TO THE RIGHT DESCRIBES THE KIND OF RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE, THAT ARE RECOMMENDED OR FOR THIS DESIGNATION WE'RE SORT OF ON THE LOWER SIDE OF WHAT'S WITHIN THAT CATEGORY, BUT WE ARE WITHIN THE CATEGORY, UM, WITH BOTH THE COTTAGE LOTS AND THE TOWN SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOMES.
AND THE SAME WITH THE COMMERCIAL.
THE COMMERCIAL THAT THIS KIND OF URBAN MIXED USE AREA CALLS FOR IS LOCAL SERVING LIKE
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RETAIL OFFICE, RESTAURANT, THINGS LIKE THAT.AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING HERE.
UM, SO HERE IS JUST A SORT OF A BIGGER CONTEXT.
YOU CAN SEE OUR LITTLE YELLOW PARCEL THERE IN THE MIDDLE.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO SHOW AGAIN, KIND OF HOW, UM, THIS PARCEL IS SORT OF AT A, AT AN IMPORTANT POINT.
YOU CAN SEE THE TRAIL HEAD THERE AS WELL FOR THE TRAIL, UM, THE TRAIL FUNCTIONING TO CONNECT REALLY THE ENTIRE CITY THERE.
UM, AND THEN HERE WE HAVE, JUST TO SHOW YOU THE SITE CONSTRAINTS.
WE ALREADY TALKED OF COURSE ABOUT THE FLOODPLAIN IN THE CREEK, BUT I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT, 'CAUSE THIS CAME UP AT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AS WELL, THAT THAT, UM, THAT NORTHEAST CORNER HAS, UM, A LARGE ELECTRICAL EASEMENT.
IT'S NEXT TO THE SUBSTATION THERE.
SO THERE'S JUST ANOTHER SORT OF COMPLICATION ON THE SITE
SO HERE'S OUR PROJECT TIMELINE.
UM, AS, AS ROBIN SAID, WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR QUITE A WHILE AND ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO TOGETHER.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT, UM, AS A RESULT OF A LOT OF THAT WORK.
UM, WE STARTED WITH OUR PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING IN JUNE OF 2021.
UM, WE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE MET WITH STAFF, YOU KNOW, SORT OF TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING.
WENT AND GOT OUR DUCKS IN A ROW AND SUBMITTED OUR PUTT IN MARCH OF 2022.
UM, THE WATER RESOLUTION THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PASSED IN OCTOBER OF THAT YEAR.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN, WE HAD SUBMITTED ONCE WE'D GONE THROUGH AN UPDATE, UM, SHORTLY AFTER IT SUBMITTED, WE HAD A MEETING WITH ROBIN, WITH THEN THE CITY MANAGER TALKED ABOUT WATER USE, SORT OF POSSIBLE DIRECTIONS WE COULD GO, THINGS WE COULD INCORPORATE INTO THE SITE.
AND THEN OVER THE COURSE OF 2023, MADE A COUPLE MORE SUBMITTALS OF COURSE AND UPDATES, UM, AND HAVE KIND OF LANDED WHERE WE ARE NOW, UM, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT MORE IN A MINUTE.
UM, I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT ON THIS, ON THIS TIMELINE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE AT THE END OF 2023 WITH YOU ALL.
UM, THIS IS JUST THE VERY FIRST STEP OF THIS PROCESS.
SO WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE YEARS OF WORK TO DO, EVEN IN THE FASTEST BEST CASE, UM, BEFORE WE WOULD BE READY TO ACTUALLY START, UM, HAVING CONSTRUCTED HOUSES THAT ARE READY TO BE INHABITED.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT THE EARLIEST, UM, 2026 WHEN WE WOULD BE CONNECTING RESIDENTIAL HOMES TO THE LINES.
AND WE'VE LOOKED CLOSELY AT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT Y'ALL HAVE PLANNED, AND I KNOW THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING NEXT YEAR.
THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT HAPPENS IN 2027.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM STAFF IS THAT WE, THAT THIS, THIS TIMELINE COULD BE SUPPORTED WITH THE WATER RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TODAY.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE MORE IMPROVEMENTS COMING LATER.
UM, SO AS PART OF THIS WORK AND, AND PART OF THE WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH STAFF OVER THE COURSE OF THIS, UM, PROJECT, WE DID DO A SCENARIO ANALYSIS FOR WATER USAGE BASED ON A FEW DIFFERENT EXAMPLES.
UM, THE FIRST SCENARIO IS WHAT WE STARTED WITH, WHICH WAS, UM, I'M SORRY.
THE FIRST SCENARIO IS A MIX OF ENTIRELY COMMERCIAL USES.
SO, UM, THIS WOULD BE ALL USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION.
UM, BUT WE, AND WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH REALLY WITH A REASONABLE SORT OF MIX OF THINGS THAT WOULD, COULD FIT ON THE SITE.
WE DIDN'T JUST LOAD IT UP WITH WATER HEAVY USES.
WE REALLY TRIED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING SORT OF REASONABLE JUST TO SEE KIND OF A BENCHMARK OF WHAT, WHAT WATER USAGE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND THAT CAME OUT TO, UM, ABOUT 369, UM, PEAK
UM, THE NEXT ONE WE LOOKED AT WAS OUR ORIGINAL REQUEST, WHICH WAS ALL TOWN HOMES THAT WAS, CAME OUT AT 381, SO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE PROPOSAL THAT'S HERE BEFORE YOU WITH THE 201 UNITS AND THE 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL COMES OUT ACTUALLY THE LOWEST AT 2 77.
UM, AND FINALLY JUST TO SORT OF, AGAIN, AS A BENCHMARK OR A COMPARISON, WE LOOKED AT WHAT IT WOULD BE IF WE DID LIKE ALL MULTI-FAMILY OR IF SOMEONE DID ALL MULTI-FAMILY AND IT WAS VERY HIGH 500, OVER 501, UM, PEAK GALLONS PER MINUTE.
SO I THINK IT BECAME CLEAR THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT RESOLUTION WAS REALLY AIMING AT IS THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE NOT IN A PLACE TO SEE RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THIS CERTAINLY VALIDATES THAT POSITION.
UM, AND SO WE, WE WERE PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE THE MIX OF USES AND THE LOWER DENSITY THAT WE WORKED THROUGH WITH STAFF GOT US TO A LOW, LIKE REALLY THE LOWEST OF THESE SCENARIOS AS FAR AS, UM, THAT WATER USAGE GOES.
UM, WE'VE ALSO HAVE MADE A SERIES OF COMMITMENTS THAT COULD BE WRITTEN INTO THE POD THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE WRITTEN INTO THE POD, UM, TO AIM TO JUST FURTHER REDUCE WATER ON THE SITE OR ENSURE THAT WATER IS REDUCED ON THE SITE.
UM, THESE INCLUDE, FIRST OF ALL, EXTENDING AND CONNECTING TO THE PURPLE PIPE INFRASTRUCTURE AS PERMITTED BY THE CITY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE A LINE ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF OUR PROPERTY, SO WE WOULD COMMIT TO USING THAT LINE.
UM, WE COULD BUILD AND EVEN IF THE LINE IS NOT AVAILABLE NOW, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BUILD TO DOUBLE PLUM AT THIS POINT SO THAT IT'S READY TO BE CONNECTED IN THE FUTURE WHEN THAT LINE COMES INTO, INTO EFFECT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, WE ALSO, UM, WOULD CONDUCT AN IRRIGATION STUDY.
UM, AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T OBVIOUSLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT QUITE YET, BUT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO, BEFORE WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE CONNECTING CONDUCT AN IRRIGATION STUDY TO REDUCE WATER USAGE BY 40% FROM WHAT A TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS TYPE WOULD USE.
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PLAN TO USE A HUNDRED PERCENT NATIVE AND ADAPTIVE PLANT PALETTE.AS WE JUST HEARD, YOU KNOW, 75% OF WATER USAGE TENDS TO GO TO LAWNS.
SO I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A SIGNIFICANT, UM, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT COMMITMENT FOR US TO MAKE BECAUSE IT'S A BEAUTIFUL WAY TO LANDSCAPE, BUT IT'S ALSO A SIGNIFICANT WATER COMMITMENT AS IS A COMMITMENT TO NO MORE THAN 25% TURF GRASS ON GRASS ON THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, UM, WE WOULD COMMIT TO NO WATER, NO RESIDENTIAL WATER METER METERS PRIOR TO 2006 TO BE CONNECTED.
AND THEN JUST TO KIND OF WRAP UP, I JUST WANTED TO SPEND A MINUTE SHOWING YOU WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO BUILD.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE COTTAGE LOTS, A COUPLE OF OF EXAMPLES ARE ON THE RIGHT THERE.
THE MORE SOME OF THE TOWNHOUSE DESIGNS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT ARE, UM, LOCAL ARE ON THE LEFT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
WE'VE WORKED FOR A LONG TIME ON IT.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A REAL ASSET TO THE CITY OF LEANDER.
I MEAN I THINK IT'S A HOUSING OPPORTUNITY OF COURSE, BUT IT ALSO PROVIDES, LIKE I SAID, THIS VERY IMPORTANT TRAIL SYSTEM THAT'S GONNA OFFER BIKE AND PED CONNECTIONS FROM NOT JUST TO THE RESIDENTS HERE WHO WILL HAVE CONNECTIONS ACROSS AND BE ABLE TO, TO GET THROUGH THOSE CREEKS AND, AND GET THROUGH THE, UM, THROUGH THOSE, THOSE TRAILS.
UM, BUT ALSO TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY THAT ARE GONNA HAVE CONNECTIONS TO NORTHLINE AND TO, UM, THE REDLINE STATION WITHOUT HAVING TO NECESSARILY GET IN THEIR CAR.
AND WITH THAT I WILL MAKE MYSELF AND MY TEAM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
WE CAN DO QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT I DO HAVE ONE POSITION READ INTO THE RECORD.
WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK? OKAY.
I'M GONNA READ THE POSITION INTO THE RECORD.
UH, CLIFFORD HALL IS AGAINST THIS ITEM AND THAT IS ALL WE HAVE ON THIS.
SO WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z 22 DASH 0 0 24 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY.
COUNSEL, YOU WANNA GO FIRST? I WAS JUST GONNA ASK, CAN YOU, UM, COME BACK AND SHARE A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT'S PROPOSED? UM, IS IT RENTAL VERSUS HOME OWNERSHIP AND HOW CAN WE, I'M SORRY, RENTAL VERSUS HOME OWNERSHIP.
I WAS JUST GONNA ASK HOW CAN YOU MANAGE THE WATER ON THE PROPERTY? SO IT WILL BE MANAGED BY A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION AND THE, THAT ASSOCIATION WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING WATER, LIKE MANAGING, LIKE EVEN THE, THE WATER THAT THOSE ZERO ESCAPED LAWNS WOULD NEED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, IT WOULD BE A RENTAL COMMUNITY, SO THAT WILL ALL BE TAKEN CARE OF BY A CENTRAL GROUP.
MY, MY QUESTION WILL BE FOR ROBIN ON THIS ONE IS, IS ANY OF THIS STUFF AS FAR AS THE, THE ONE OF THE LAST SLIDES THAT WAS SHOWN? FIRST OFF, LEMME JUST MAKE A COMMENT HAVING TO COME UP AFTER THE, THE REPORT
'CAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY GO INTO THAT MUCH DEPTH.
I CAN'T VERIFY IF THE INFORMATION'S CORRECT, BUT THANK YOU FOR COMING PREPARED AND, AND GIVING A HOOT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
'CAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO WITH THE STUFF WITH THE, THE ZEROSCAPING, THE UM, PURPLE PIPE, THE CON CONSERVATION, IS ANY OF THAT STUFF IN THE PUD RIGHT NOW? I DIDN'T SEE IT.
UM, SO THE PURPLE PIPE IS NOT, THE IRRIGATION STUDY'S NOT, UM, THE A HUNDRED PERCENT NATIVE ADAPTIVE PLANT THAT'S ALREADY REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE.
THE TURF GRASS REDUCTION IS NOT, AND THEN THE NO PERMANENT RESIDENTIAL WATER METER, UM, SHOULDN'T BE IN THE PUD I DON'T THINK IT IS, BUT WE CAN'T PUT IT IN THE PUD IT WOULD'VE TO BE IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
YOU CAN COME UP AND SPEAK TO THAT.
YEAH, WE DO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SO IF THAT'S WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, SO WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT WAS PROPOSED THERE THAT WE THINK IS A BAD IDEA AS FAR AS THE CITY, AS FAR AS STAFF IS CONCERNED? OR ARE THOSE THINGS THAT CONTINUE TO HELP? UM, THE CHANCES OF US BEING ABLE TO EVEN CONSIDER SOMETHING, SOMETHING LIKE THIS? I DON'T THINK ANY OF THEM ARE BAD.
SO, AND THEN JUST WHY, WHY YOU'RE HERE TOO.
JUST, I KNOW WE DID A, WE DID A BRIEF, UM, KIND OF INTRODUCTION TO THE, TO THIS, BUT ON OUR CALL THE OTHER DAY WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A TALK TOO.
SO, SO FAR WHAT I'M SEEING IS I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY, WHY PNZ WOULD SAY NO IN GENERAL, JUST BECAUSE THIS IS A COUNCIL RESOLUTION.
I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY SAYING, HEY, THIS IS FOR YOU GUYS TO DECIDE.
THE WHOLE REASON WE HAVE THE RESOLUTION IS TO PROTECT OUR CITY, BUT ALSO TO BE ABLE TO COME TO THE TABLE AND HAVE COMMON SENSE, UH, DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSIONS.
AND SO WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WAS, THAT COULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT RESIDENTIAL AND THAT WAS PROBABLY BETTER FINANCIALLY IF IT WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT RESIDENTIAL THAT, UM, WE DRAMATICALLY, UH, REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF UNITS AND UM, ADDED SOME COMMERCIAL.
AND, UM, THERE LOOKS TO BE A WILLINGNESS TO ALSO, UM, JOIN THE CITY'S EFFORTS AND THE CONSERVATION EFFORT AND EFFORTS TOO.
SO JUST SO I HEAR IT FROM, FROM STAFF AS WELL TOO.
WE DO HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE THIS PROPERTY IF IT'S
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BILLED OUT IN, IF IT STARTED IN 2026.IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S A QUESTION FOR DAN.
YOU COULD JUST GIMME A, I MEAN, I I HA LEMME JUST SAY THIS.
I DON'T, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK ON THAT, BUT YOU SAID YES ON THE PHONE, BUT I JUST WANT YOU THAT I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AS COUNCIL TOO BECAUSE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE STAFF IS STAFF THINKS THIS IS THE BEST CASE SCENARIO AND A GOOD PROJECT FOR US.
AND WE NEED TO KNOW AS A COUNCIL THAT WE ARE NOT THE PROFESSIONALS IN THAT WAY.
AND WE SHOULDN'T JUST BE, WE'RE NOT JUST GUNSLINGERS UP HERE SAYING YES AND NO TO WHOEVER WE WANT.
BUT THIS HAS BEEN A, A VETTED CONVERSATIONS THAT'S THAT YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON AND YOU'RE SAYING WE CAN HANDLE THIS PROJECT.
UM, I SAW YOU PUT THE, UH, RIB REVOLVERS BACK DOWN
NO, UH, IT, NO, IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A LOT OF EFFORT ON, YOU KNOW, BOTH THE CITY AND A DEVELOPER TO, UH, BRING I THINK A GOOD PRODUCT.
MM-HMM,
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR PLAN AND, AND SO OVER THE NEXT SO MANY YEARS, THE CITY HAS TO HAVE THAT VISION.
WE DO HAVE CAPACITY CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS AND THE PHASING THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO IS, IS GONNA BE HELPFUL.
BUT IN THE LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT, UM, WE HAVE SO MUCH WATER IN THE BANK AND WHAT ARE WE GONNA, YOU KNOW, USE THAT FOR.
AND ROBIN, JUST ONE MORE TIME FOR, FOR YOU.
THIS, THIS WOULD BE AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, IT'S UM, IT'S A VERY UNIQUE PIECE THAT WOULD BE HARD TO DEVELOP COMMERCIALLY.
THOSE ARE JUST THE MAIN TOPICS I THINK I HAVE, CAN I ASK ONE MORE THING? SO, UM, ALL OF THE UPDATES THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN THE PUD WOULD NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE PUD POTENTIALLY IF, IF THAT'S Y'ALL'S PROPOSAL.
SO IT'D BE PART OF YOUR MOTION AND THEN I WOULD ADD IT FOR THE SECOND READING.
IS THERE ANY RECOURSE UH, AFTER GETTING THE WATER REPORT AND SEEING WORST CASE SCENARIOS AND THE SITUATION WE COULD BE IN SAY A COUPLE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD? IS THERE ANY WAY TO STOP THE DEVELOPMENT IF WE'RE IN A REALLY CRITICAL SITUATION, IF IT'S, UM, ALREADY ZONED, THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR ENTITLEMENTS IN PLACE.
UM, SO IF WE HAD A MORATORIUM, THAT'S THE WAY TO STOP IT.
BUT I THINK WE KNOW THAT'S CHALLENGING.
THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE FOR THE CITY TO INITIATE A ZONING CASE AND THAT'S ALSO CHALLENGING 'CAUSE YOU RUN SOME RISKS WITH TAKINGS.
I DO THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT FOR THE AREA.
I AM CONCERNED THOUGH, 'CAUSE WE HAD ANOTHER PROJECT THAT DID NOT ACTUALLY COME BEFORE US 'CAUSE THEY STOPPED IT.
'CAUSE THEY KNEW WE, IT WASN'T GONNA BE APPROVED FOR ABOUT A THIRD OF THE AMOUNT OF HOUSING AND THIS IS TRIPLE WHAT THEY WERE GONNA COME WITH.
CAN YOU JUST KIND OF HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE KIND OF RECOMMENDING THIS ONE AND WE DID NOT RECOMMEND THAT ONE? IS THIS THE, THE ONE HERO EIGHT MM-HMM.
UM, SO THE, THE DIFFERENCE IS THE ONE ON HERO AWAY WAS DEVELOPABLE COMMERCIALLY AND THEY'RE ALSO IMPROVING HERO AWAY IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT WOULD BE ATTRACTIVE TO A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER AND IT DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME SITE CONSTRAINTS.
YOU GOOD? COUNCIL MEMBER PLACE ONE, UM, PLACE FIVE
UH, THANK YOU FOR, FOR SAYING ALL OF THAT.
THERE WAS SOMETHING YOU SAID THAT I WAS GOING TO AGREE WITH AND NOW WE'RE PAST IT.
UH, BUT THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO, TO GET US HERE.
AND I THINK THIS, THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF, UM, HOW THE RESOLUTION CAN WORK BECAUSE IT, IT WASN'T TO STOP THINGS, IT WAS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING VERY CAREFUL AND THIS, HAVING GONE THROUGH WHAT YOU DID WITH, WITH PNZ, UM, IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, WELL, YES, THEY ARE DOING, THEY, THEY VOTED BASED ON OUR RESOLUTION, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK IS, WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BUT IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT THIS SO THE, THE SYSTEM WORKS.
UM, THE ONE QUESTION I DID HAVE, AND I I REALLY LOVE THIS, SO THANK YOU BIG TIME FOR THAT.
UM, THE, THE SLIDE THAT IS NOT IN OUR PACKET, I KNOW I SAW IT.
WAS IT, I THINK IT WAS EMAILED.
IT WAS, YOU HAD THE, UM, THE WATER COMPARISONS.
I, I WANT TO, I JUST WANT SOMEONE TO VERIFY THAT THAT YES, THAT EXACTLY.
THAT ARE, I MEAN, IS THAT REALISTIC? ANYBODY? I DON'T WHO SENT US THAT? I CAN, I CAN.
YEAH, BUT I SAW IT SOMEWHERE, BUT I DON'T SEE IT IN HERE.
AND IT WASN'T IN THE EMAIL THAT YOU SENT, YOU GOT BACKUP.
IT CAME FROM SOMEWHERE, BUT I CAN'T FIND IT.
HI, HOW YOU DOING MA'AM? I'M FABULOUS.
HOW ARE YOU? E WILLIAMS ONE OF THE ENGINEERS WITH WGI WORK ON THIS PROJECT.
SO THE CALCULATION THAT WE USE UP HERE, THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT WE USE.
UH, AND WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A METHOD, I GUESS WITH A STANDARD METHOD OF A CITY OF LEANDER
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TO GIVE A PROJECTED THIS IS WHAT THE FUTURE WATER USE IS GONNA BE.THIS IS A VERY COMMON, UH, METHOD.
METHODOLOGY WE USE IN ORDER TO CALCULATE AND PROJECT FUTURE WATER DEMAND IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE GONNA BE ON THE OVERALL SYSTEM.
AND SO FOR THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, BASICALLY THE WAY WE BREAK IT OUT IS IT'S BASED OFF L LUS AND SO WHAT ALUE IS THE LIVING UNIT EQUIVALENCY.
UM, AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO TRANSLATE, UH, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT WE USE ON A REGULAR BASIS IN CITY OF AUSTIN TO TRANSLATE INTO LEANDER.
THIS IS SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ANYTHING, UM, UH, CONCRETE TO KIND OF BASE BASE THAT OFF OF, AND WE'RE TRYING TO USE VERY SIMPLE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE TO PRESENT TO Y'ALL TODAY.
AND SO WHAT ALUE IS, IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT'S UTILIZED THAT ALSO WATERS THEIR, UH, LAWN AND THAT'S HOW MUCH WATER CONSUMPTION THAT ONE HOUSE WOULD USE.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS HERE THAT WE PRESENTED.
THIS IS BEFORE WE WOULD DO WATER CONSERVATION EFFORTS.
SO, UM, INCLUDE THE DIFFERENT METHODS THAT ROB, OR EXCUSE ME, THAT, UH, LEAH WAS PROPOSING LIKE, UH, DOUBLE PIPING, UM, THE SITE AND ALSO PLANTING, UM, NATURAL, UH, PLANTS.
BASICALLY WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS THAT NUMBERS, THOSE NUMBERS WOULD GO DOWN OKAY.
ONCE WE EMPLOY, UH, EMPLOY THOSE METHODS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, JUST THE PURPLE PIPE'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST PART OF THAT.
I THINK JUST FROM WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IN OUR SHORT TIME OF BECOMING CONSERVATION ENTHUSIAST
I JUST NEEDED TO KNOW THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY REAL NUMBERS.
WE DO THESE, WE DO THESE NUMBERS ON A CONSISTENT BASIS.
AND WE HAVE AN HOUR, IT'S, ONE HOUSE IS ESSENTIALLY ONE LUE.
AND IF YOU LOOKED AT THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, WHICH IS D IT'S ALMOST 400 AND THEY BROUGHT IT DOWN TO TWO 13.
AND SO THAT'S ALMOST HALF THE AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY COULD HAVE, UM, USED.
AND SO YEAH, THAT'S, SO IT JIVES, BUT YEAH.
BUT ONE HOUSE, ONE LUE, SO THEY'RE PUTTING IN 2 0 1, THEY HAVE TWO 13, SO YOU KNOW, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION? NO, I MEAN, BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT WE WENT OVER, BASED ON HOW MUCH YOU GUYS HAVE WORKED TOGETHER, BASED ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND THE IN AND AND OFF THIS INFORMATION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, BUT I WANT TO KNOW THE BEST WAY TO WORD, UM, ON SOME OF THE, UM, THE PUT ADDITIONS THAT, UH, LAY THAT YOU, THAT YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT.
UM, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY FOR ME TO WORD THAT FOR YOU TO, CAN I SAY SOMETHING AS VAGUE AS WORK IT OUT WITH STAFF? OR, OR SHOULD I BE MORE SPECIFIC TO MAKE SURE I CAN TELL YOU THE THREE CONDITIONS AS I UNDERSTAND 'EM? OKAY, SO THE FIRST ONE IS FOR THEM TO EXTEND AND CONNECT TO OUR WATER RECLAIMED SYSTEM.
UM, AND THAT MIGHT INVOLVE DOUBLE PLUMBING IF IT'S NOT AVAILABLE YET.
UM, COMPLETING AN IRRIGATION STUDY TO REDUCE THE WATER USAGE AND REDUCING THE TURF TO 25%.
UM, AND THEN ADDING TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THEY WON'T REQUEST A PERMANENT RESIDENTIAL WATER METER PRIOR TO JANUARY 1ST, 2026.
AND CAN I ONE CONFIRMATION ON THAT, THAT 25% TURF GRASS IS WATERED BY THE RECLAIMED WATER, CORRECT? IF IT'S AVAILABLE TO THE, THE SITE.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE INTENT.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE INTENT, RIGHT? JUST, JUST CONFIRMING.
SO I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, WITH THE ADDITION TO THE FOUR, UM, ADDITIONS THAT MS. GRIFFIN JUST, THERE WAS A FOURTH.
THERE WAS A YES, THE METERS, SORRY, I COUNTING THERE WAS A 25% AT THE END.
I WASN'T COUNTING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO WITH THE FOUR ADDITIONS, THAT'S MY MOTION.
AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AND AGAINST PASSES? FOUR TO ONE.
AND WITH THAT COUNSEL, WE'VE BEEN AT THIS, UH, WAIT, WAS IT FIVE TO ONE? FIVE, YOU'RE RIGHT.
I'M NOT USED TO HAVING ONE MISSING.
AND WITH THAT, WE HAVE BEEN AT THIS FOR A LITTLE OVER AN HOUR.
SO COUNSEL'S GOING TO TAKE A BRIEF RECESS.
PLEASE BE BACK IN FIVE MINUTES,
ALL RIGHT, WE ARE BACK IN SESSION AT 8:22 PM MOVING ON
[21. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case Z-23-0081 to amend the current zoning of PUD/TOD-CD (Planned Unit Development/Transit Oriented Development – Conventional Development Sector) to adopt the CR 269 and Hero Way Minor PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning district of GC-3-A (General Commercial) on one (1) parcel of land approximately 4.15 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R346169; and more commonly addressed as 1548 and 1550 CR 269, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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UNIT DEVELOPMENT TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT SECTOR TO ADOPT THE CR 2 69 AND HEAR AWAY MINOR PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF GC THREE, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 4.15 ACRES PLUS OR MINUSES IN SIZE AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA.EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO THIS IS A, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CR 2 69 AND HERO WAY MINOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY IN THE CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT SECTOR OF THE TOD AND THIS REQUEST, UM, INCLUDES ESTABLISHING, UH, ZONING FROM THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO IT'S REMOVING IT FROM THE TOD.
UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING THE GC THREE A DISTRICT, WHICH IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
UM, THEIR PROPOSAL IS TO, UM, BUILD A GAS STATION AND, UM, STAFF DID WORK WITH THEM TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL RETAIL BUILDING AS WELL ON THE SITE SINCE IT'S IN AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
UM, THIS REQUEST WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DURING THEIR OCTOBER 26TH MEETING, AND THEY UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
UM, I'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
HI, HONORABLE, HONORABLE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
I'M A WACO BASED BROKER AT, AND I'VE BEEN ASKED TO JUST COME AND SHARE A FEW POINTS ON, ON THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE, THE, WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE, UH, IS THE THREE LOT SUBDIVISION.
THE THE GAS STATION WILL BE ON THE SOUTHERNMOST POINT.
THE CENTER PART IS A 13,250 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL STRIP AND AQSR PAD ON THE END.
THE, THE, UH, THE, THE GAS STATION IS ONLY 5,500 SQUARE SQUARE FEET.
THE PROJECT WILL TAKE APPROXIMATELY 15 MONTHS TO BUILD ONE IF, IF IT IS APPROVED.
AND ONCE PLANNING IS DONE, PROJECT WILL TAKE ABOUT 15 MONTHS TO, TO COMPLETE.
THE GAS STATION IS GONNA BE A NEW BRAND KUDOS THAT IS, UH, OWNED BY A 2,500 MEMBER, UH, GREATER HOUSTON RETAILERS ASSOCIATION GROUP THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST TO BE LAUNCHED AND THEY'RE LAUNCHING THEM ONLY IN UPSCALE COMMUNITIES.
UH, THE, THE STRIP CENTER WILL BE SIMILAR TO THIS.
IT'LL HAVE A, A MIXTURE OF RETAIL AND, UH, AND RESTAURANT USERS.
THE, UH, THE, THE, AS I SAID, THIS IS THE LARGER OF THE BUILDING'S, 13,250 SQUARE FEET.
THERE'S ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT.
BUT BASICALLY, UH, THAT'S THE PLAN.
LGA, UH, ENGINEERING WORKED VERY HARD WITH THE, WITH THE STAFF.
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK.
I, I'M JUST THE SPOKESMAN THAT WAS ASKED TO, UH, COME AND PRESENT THIS TO YOU.
UH, CONSTRUCTION WILL BE ABOUT $8 MILLION, UH, TO DO THE DEVELOPMENT.
THE, THE, UH, ANTICIPATED RETAIL AND RESTAURANT SALES OUT OF THIS, WHEN IT'S FULLY BILLED OUT, WILL BE IN EXCESS OF $10 MILLION A YEAR.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
UM, I DO HAVE SOMEBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
PLEASE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UH, MY NAME IS AARON RODRIGUEZ SAN LIVE IN LEANDER, 4 21 LA JOLLA PASS.
UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I'M IN FAVOR FOR THIS PROGRESS, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT CREATES PROGRESS, IT CREATES OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL CITIZENS IN LEANDRO.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS, UM, THE ONLY LEANDER THAT I KNOW IS ALREADY CHANGING.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE ON AND GET ON, GET ON BOARD WITH WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND AND JUST LOOK FORWARD FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR NEW OPPORTUNITIES, NEW, NEW PLACES THAT WE CAN ALL GROW TOGETHER AND BRING MORE REVENUE FOR, FOR EVERYONE.
ALRIGHT, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
WE'LL NOW DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z DASH 23 DASH 0 81 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY.
COUNSEL, MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[22. Conduct a Public Hearing on the First Reading of an Ordinance regarding the Titan Leander Annexation Case A-23-0009 regarding the voluntary annexation of 92.319 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R099758, R086290, R031580, R555207, and R108828; and generally located approximately 2,000 feet to the east of the intersection of 183A Toll Road and Hero Way, on the north side of Hero Way, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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A DASH 23 DASH 0 0 9 REGARDING THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF 92.319 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE AS STATED ON THE POST AGENDA, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.SO THIS IS A, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE TITAN LEANDER VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.
UM, THIS PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO AN ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ZONING CASE THAT'S ASSOCIATED, UM, WITH THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING DOES NOT APPROVE THE ANNEXATION OR THE ZONING.
AND, UM, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THERE'S NO, UH, PRESENTATION.
SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
NOBODY HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? I'LL SPEAK ON THE, I WAS GONNA SPEAK ON THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT.
SO WE'LL DO IT ON THE NEXT ONE THEN.
UH, SIR, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU CAN COME UP, GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES RIGHT INTO THE MICROPHONE.
I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM.
AND, UH, I, I SENT IN A LITTLE NOTE WITH THE, WITH THE ZONING REQUEST OF IT, AND I, I WAS AGAINST IT AND THAT I HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH THESE FOLKS AND, UH, THEY ASSURED ME THAT EVERYTHING I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
ALL RIGHT, SO I CHANGED MY MIND ON WHAT? ON THE LITTLE CARD I SENT IN
UH, PLEASE FILL OUT ANOTHER LITTLE CARD WITH THE CITY SECRETARY FOR OUR RECORDS.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? ALL RIGHT.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
WE'LL NOW DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ANNEXATION CASE A DASH 23 DASH 0 0 0 9 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY.
COUNSEL, MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION.
AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[23. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case Z-23-0087 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to adopt the Titan Leander PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning district of HC-4-D (Heavy Commercial) on five (5) parcels of land approximately 115.80 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R099758, R086290, R031580, R555207, and R108828; and generally located approximately 2,000 feet to the east of the intersection of 183A Toll Road and Hero Way, on the north side of Hero Way, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, GRIFFIN.
SO THIS IS THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE TITAN LEANDER PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN OUR EMPLOYMENT CENTER AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A MINOR PUD, UM, WITH THE BASE DISTRICT OF HC FOUR D, WHICH IS HEAVY COMMERCIAL.
UM, IT COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND UM, IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD, UH, EMPLOYER USE AT THIS LOCATION.
THEY'VE ADDED SEVERAL PROHIBITED USES TO ENSURE THAT IT'S GONNA FIT WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, THIS REQUEST WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DURING THE OCTOBER 26TH MEETING, AND THEY UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OH, THE APPLICANT'S HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MR. TURNER.
UM, THANK YOU ROBIN SAL PERDOMO AT TITAN DEVELOPMENT 4 9 0 3 WOODROW AVENUE, AUSTIN, TEXAS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO HAVE A FEW MINUTES TO SPEAK.
UM, WE APPRECIATE STAFF'S ASSISTANCE AND THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS SHORT.
YOU'LL PROBABLY BE SEEING A LOT OF MYSELF AND MY COLLEAGUE BRIAN BATON, ASSUMING THIS REQUEST GETS APPROVED.
UM, BUT WE ARE THRILLED TO BE WORKING IN THE CITY OF LEANDER.
TITAN DEVELOPMENT HAS SPENT THE BETTER PART OF TWO YEARS TRYING TO FIND OUR FIRST PROJECT IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND ARE EXCITED TO WORK WITH YOUR TEAM TO BRING QUALITY JOBS AND INVESTMENT THROUGH THIS LANDMARK PROJECT.
PNZ HEARD THIS CASE LAST MONTH AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED, AND WE ASKED FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE.
UM, JUST AS A NOTE, UH, MR. MR. GOLDEN JUST SPOKE, UH, THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NOTIFICATION.
UM, WE GOT IN TOUCH WITH MR. GOLDEN.
HE EXPRESSED, UH, VALID CONCERNS.
UM, AND, AND I'M, WE HAD A FORMAL, UH, RESPONSE OVER EMAIL TO HIM.
UM, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR PACKETS.
I'M HAPPY TO READ THAT FOR THE RECORD AS WELL.
I INTENTIONALLY KEPT MY COMMENTS SHORT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, BUT APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
UM, WITH THAT, WE ARE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE'S NOBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISH TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL NOW DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z DASH 23 DASH 0 0 8 7 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY.
COUNSEL, MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION.
I JUST WANNA SAY, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, YOUR WILLINGNESS TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS AND, AND WORK THROUGH CONCERNS.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING
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UP AND LETTING US KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS AND THAT YOU'RE AT EASE.AND THIS IS WHAT WE LOVE TO SEE WHEN EVERYBODY WORKS THINGS OUT.
I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR A FEW YEARS AND I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT YET.
YEAH, WE'RE WE HAPPY? HOPE TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR IN THIS COMMUNITY.
SO THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[24. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case Z-23-0083 to amend the current zoning of LC-2-B (Local Commercial) to adopt the Leander Business Center PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning district of LC-2-A (Local Commercial) on one (1) parcel of land approximately 10.25 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R031713; and more commonly addressed as 80 Mockingbird Hill, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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TWO, A LOCAL COMMERCIAL ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 10.25 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, GRIFFIN.
THIS IS A, UH, PUBLIC HEARING TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY, UM, TO ADD, UM, AN ADDITIONAL USE.
SO TODAY THEY HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT ALLOWS FOR OFFICE WAREHOUSING.
UM, THIS PROPERTY, THE DEVELOPMENT STARTED BEFORE IT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.
AND, UM, WHEN IT WAS ANNEXED, THEY, UH, REQUESTED THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND WE APPROVED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE OFFICE WAREHOUSE USES.
AND, UM, THEY NOW HAVE A NEW OWNER THAT, UM, HAS CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, THAT BEING A, A TEMPORARY OPTION.
SO WE WORK WITH THEM ON A MINOR PUD TO ADD IT AS A PERMANENT USE.
UM, THIS REQUEST WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DURING THE OCTOBER 26TH MEETING, AND THEY UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE.
WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHED TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL NOW DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z DASH 23 DASH 0 83 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY.
COUNSEL, IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE EASIER ONES, BUT I JUST WANNA LET EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL KNOW TOO THAT EVEN THE CURRENT TENANT THAT'S THERE, EVEN EVEN WENT AND WENT BY THE BUILDING AND THEY'RE EVEN IN, IN SUPPORT OF THIS TOO.
SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A WHOLE BUNCH OF NEIGHBORS THAT ARE AROUND, UH, TO BOTHER THIS.
AND THIS IS A PRETTY EASY ONE.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE I SECOND, SECOND MOTION, AND SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[25. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Subdivision Case CP-22-0001 to adopt the FM 2243 Concept Plan on two (2) parcels of land approximately 16.727 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R327095 and R433125; generally located on the north side of RM 2243 between 183A Toll Road and Ronald Reagan Boulevard, more commonly known as 8770 RM 2243, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, GRIFFIN.
UM, THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FM 2243 INDUSTRIAL PARK CONCEPT PLAN.
UM, THIS IS A, A CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.
AND, UM, THEY DO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
SO THE COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO APPROVE THE REQUEST.
UM, THIS WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UM, DURING THEIR MEETING LAST WEEK, AND THEY UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE REQUEST.
AND I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WELL, THERE'S NO PRESENTATION.
NOBODY HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISH TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL NOW DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING SUBDIVISION CASE CP DASH 22 DASH 0 0 0 1 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY.
COUNSEL, MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY
[26. Receive a presentation from John A. Clark, PE (LJA Enigneering, Senior Vice President - Central Texas Manager), regarding a petition for a Comprehensive Plan Amendment for a residential development located to the southeast of the intersection of Journey Parkway and Ronald W. Reagan Boulevard, Leander, Texas, Williamson County.]
MOVING INTO DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL REVIEW.ITEM NUMBER 26, RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM JOHN A. CLARK PE OF LJA ENGINEERING SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT, CENTRAL TEXAS MANAGER REGARDING A PETITION FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT LOCATED TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF JOURNEY PARKWAY.
AND RONALD W. REAGAN BOULEVARD, LEANDER, TEXAS, WILLIAMSON COUNTY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THIS IS MY LAST ONE, SO GETTING IN YOUR STEPS.
SO, UM, THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL REVIEW AND THE COUNCIL HAS NOT SEEN ONE OF THESE IN A WHILE.
UM, SO THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT A PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
UM, THERE WAS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE DON'T TALK ABOUT ZONING REQUESTS, UM, OR THEIR, THEIR FUTURE APPLICATIONS.
UM, AND I'LL HAND IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT.
UM, MY NAME IS JOHN CLARK WITH LJA ENGINEERING.
UH, AND JUST TO KIND OF START OFF, WE, WE WEREN'T AWARE THAT WE COULD KINDA COME TO THIS PRESENTATION.
WE HAD A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING AND, AND WE HAD A FOLLOW-UP MEETING WITH ROBIN, AND SHE IDENTIFIED THAT THIS IS A OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO GET Y'ALL'S INPUT ON WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AS A PROPOSED FLU CHANGE.
AND THIS IS KIND OF JUST A QUICK
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FEEDBACK AND I'M JUST GONNA KIND OF START MY PRESENTATION, UH, WITH THIS.UM, THE, THE DEVELOPERS ON THIS PROJECT IS HAMILTON THOMAS HOLMES, UM, WHICH IS, UH, JOHN BONE IS ALSO HERE TONIGHT.
AND WE HAVE RIVERSIDE RESOURCES WITH BEN HOLCOMB AND JACKSON H ARE ARE BOTH HERE TONIGHT TOO, IF ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF US.
SO THE LOCATION OF THIS IS AT RONALD REAGAN IN JOURNEY PARKWAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE 'CAUSE IT'S SUCH A, I'LL KIND OF ZOOM IN AT THIS, UH, LOCATION HERE.
THE PROJECT IS SOUTH OF JOURNEY, UH, EAST OF RONALD REAGAN, WEST OF BRUSHY CREEK.
AND NORTH OF WHAT IS BOUNDED IS THE CITY LIMITS OF CEDAR PARK.
AND THE, WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT IS YOU, THE TRACK THERE, YOU SEE THE, THE, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THE, UM, MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THE TRACK ACTUALLY WRAPS AROUND THAT, THAT BOTH THOSE SCHOOLS.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WANTING TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON, WE WERE WANTING TO GET SOME, SO BASICALLY RIGHT NOW THE FLUME HAS THE STUFF IS, I MEAN, BOTH THE, THE PROJECTS ARE, UH, IDENTIFIED IN THE, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO CHANGE IS THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR.
THAT'S THE STUFF THAT'S BASICALLY SOUTH OF JOURNEY.
AND IN DOING SO, IN LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT, WE ARE LOOKING AT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT TRACT OF LAND.
NOW, IN, IN LOOK GOING THROUGH THIS AS, AS STUDYING AND EVERYTHING, WE FELT LIKE THE NATURAL, UM, PLACE TO SEPARATE THE, THE TWO WOULD BE THE, THE CREEK THAT RUNS NORTH SOUTH FROM JOURNEY TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY THERE.
AND THAT'S THAT BLOCKHOUSE CREEK THERE THAT, THAT COMES IN AND CROSSES, UH, RONALD REAGAN.
SO, UM, THE TRACK, THE ALL AROUND IT, LIKE I SAID, IS THAT'S THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S THE YELLOW AREA THERE.
AND THEN THE HATCH RED IS THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR.
AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AND ADD SOME CONSIDERATION IS THE AREA AROUND IT BE GO BACK TO NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AND WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S A BETTER USE FOR THAT AREA DIRECTLY AROUND THE SCHOOL.
UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THE AREA AND I JUST, WE KINDA DID THIS MAP SO YOU COULD SEE THAT TRADITIONALLY SINGLE FAMILY IS TRADITIONALLY WRAPPED AROUND ELEMENTARY AND JUNIOR SCHOOLS.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF COMMERCIAL OR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, COMMERCIAL USES.
NOW, JUST TO KIND OF GO ONE STEP FURTHER, WE, IN OUR PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, WE ARE FULLY AWARE OF Y'ALL'S WATER, UH, CONSERVATION ORDINANCE.
YOUR STAFF MADE US VERY AWARE OF IT.
AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, USE, THERE'S NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD SINGLE FAMILY THERE, ALTHOUGH IT IS ALLOWED AS 40 FIFTIES AND SIXTIES IN THAT USE.
WE WERE IDENTIF WE WERE INFORMED THAT THAT WAS NOT PROBABLY GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE WERE GONNA GO AFTER.
WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S MORE OF A, UH, SFS IS WHAT WE'D PROBABLY LOOK AT.
WE KNOW IT'S A LARGER LOT, 70 FOOT, 9,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT AS A MINIMUM.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GONNA BE, UH, GOING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
AND WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE WERE REQUESTING THIS CHANGE, BUT WE'D JUST LIKE SOME FEEDBACK BEFORE WE GO, UH, FURTHER WITH A FLYNN CHANGE OR ANYTHING AND SEE Y'ALL'S THOUGHTS.
WE'D LIKE TO GET Y'ALL'S THOUGHTS ON THIS.
I'M SURE YOU HAVE LOTS OF THOUGHTS.
ANYBODY ELSE WANNA GO FIRST? I THINK SO.
SO OBVIOUSLY OUR MAIN FOCUS HAS BEEN TO PRESERVE EVERY BIT THAT WE POSSIBLY THINK COULD REMOTELY EVEN HAVE A CHANCE TO DEVELOP COMMERCIALLY IN OUR CITY.
SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK MO MOST OF THIS IS COMING TO.
I THINK THAT THE, UM, THE 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS THAT'S ALLOWING YOU TO STAY AT A, AT A, UM, AT A DENSITY THAT THAT WORKS WITHIN, UM, WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING HERE.
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TYPICALLY ANYTHING CLOSE TO, TO, UM, RONALD REAGAN, ESPECIALLY ON THAT CORNER, YOU'D BE WANTING UPWARDS OF 10, UH, EIGHT TO 10 UNITS PER ACRE IN SOME CASES.AND, UM, SO MY, MY ONLY CONCERN AFTER TALKING TO STAFF AND JUST, AND, AND SEEING THIS IS, UM, ONE AREA OF, THERE'S THREE BA THERE, IF, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS RIGHT, THERE'S THREE PROPOSED AREAS TO CHANGE.
THERE'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IN TH THE THREE ARROWS THAT YOU GOT YEAH.
GIVEN A LITTLE AND TAKING A LITTLE YES.
YEAH, THERE'S THE, THERE'S THE, THERE'S THE PART THAT'S ON THE SOUTHWEST PART OF THE PROPERTY JUST ON THE EAST OF THE, OF WHERE THE, OF THE LITTLE CREEK THAT COMES THROUGH.
THAT PART, I DON'T RE I DON'T REALLY, IF YOU'RE JUST ASKING ME PERSONALLY, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT PART AT ALL.
UM, NOW THE, THE TWO AT THE TOP, GO AHEAD.
SO THE, THE ONE ON THE, THE SOUTHWEST, UM, THAT'S ONE THAT STAFF COULD ADMINISTRATIVELY DO BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A ESTIMATE.
SO THAT ONE WOULDN'T BE A REQUIRED CHANGE.
SO THAT MAKES, THAT'S NOW YOUR BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST ASK FOR US WOULD BASICALLY BE CHANGING THE STUFF ON THE, UH, NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AND THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF JOURNEY PARKWAY.
AND, UM, PRIMARILY THE ONE THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE, TO THE CORNER WOULD BE MY CONCERN OF GIVING UP, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP ANYTHING COMMERCIALLY AROUND THAT CORNER, EVEN MORE SO THAN THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCHOOL, WHICH GOES TO THE EAST.
SO, UM, IF I'M BEING CON, I MEAN, IF WE'RE BEING CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE SAID SO FAR, IT'S SMART TO COME AND ASK US, YOU KNOW, IN THIS SITUATION, I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY MAKE U OR TAKE USE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND WE PUT IT IN FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THIS TOO.
UM, BUT MY, MY, UH, MY ONLY RESERVATION WOULD BE REALLY THAT CORNER RIGHT THERE.
UM, SO THE, THE, THE MIXED USE CORRIDOR OR WHATEVER THAT'S ON JOURNEY PARKWAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE TO THE WEST OF THE SCHOOL RIGHT.
IS MY BIGGEST, MY BIGGEST CONCERN ON, ON TAKING THAT PIECE OUT AND MAKING THAT 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS.
BUT THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
AND, AND JUST TO KINDA LET YOU KNOW THAT IMMEDIATELY ACROSS BOTH SIDES TO THE EAST, I MEAN, AND TO THE NORTH ARE ARE RESIDENTIAL JUST ON THAT EAST SIDE? OH, I'M NOT SAYING WE'VE ALWAYS DONE EVERYTHING GREAT.
OH, NO, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT IS, YEAH.
AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M ONE OF, UH, COUNCILMAN ROSS NOT HERE.
UM, I'M ONE OF SEVEN, SO I'M, IF YOU'RE ASKING THOUGHTS, THOSE WOULD BE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS.
NO, I, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LOVE YOUR FEEDBACK.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE COME FORWARD WITH THE ACTUAL APPLICATION, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF ON THE SAME PAGE.
I'LL JUST GIVE MY FEEDBACK AS WELL.
I'LL JUST HAVE A HARD TIME GIVING UP ANYTHING ON RONALD REAGAN THAT'S NOT GONNA BE COMMERCIAL.
WELL, RONALD REAGAN, WE'RE NOT CHANGING REALLY WELL.
NO, THEY'RE JUST ON JOURNEY PARKWAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE, ON BOTH EITHER SIDE OF THE SCHOOL ARE THE TWO PLACES.
LIKE IF ON THE, ON THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, IT'S THE TWO ARROWS, LIKE THE LITTLE TRAPEZOID ON, I GUESS THEY'D BOTH BE TRAPEZOIDS.
UM, SORRY, I'VE BEEN HELPING MY GIRLS
ROBIN, CAN YOU HELP WITH THE POINTER? SO WE KNOW IT'S, WHERE ARE WE GOING? HE'S JUST GOTTA KNOW HOW TO RUN
DAVID WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING'S CHANGED ON RONALD REAGAN, BUT SO THIS, THIS WHOLE AREA THAT WOULD REMAIN AS THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR.
UM, BUT STAFF DOES HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO NEGOTIATE HOW DEEP IT IS WHEN YOU HAVE NATURAL FEATURES WITHOUT AN AMENDMENT.
DAVID, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE TOO.
THIS, THIS SHOWS IT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT AFTER MM-HMM.
IT'S ON THEIR, IT'S ON THEIR PRESENTATION.
THAT WILL SHOW YOU WHAT KIND OF STAYS.
IS THAT, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT TIMELINE? YEAH.
THERE'S A LITTLE OUT PARTIAL AND THAT'S WHERE A WATER QUALITY POND THAT FOR RONALD REAGAN.
WE DON'T DUNNO, THAT WOULDN'T BE FAR MY CONCERN, AND I ACTUALLY LIVE AROUND HERE, BUT MY CONCERN WOULD BE WOULD YOU BE ADDING ANY ROADS OR, 'CAUSE ALREADY TRAFFIC IS CONGESTED RIGHT THERE AS FAR IS OUT TO RONALD.
WHICH WOULD, ARE YOU ASKING FOR RONALD REAGAN OR TO JOURNEY, MORE JOURNEY WHERE, UH, CHRIS SNICK WAS TALKING THAT TRAPEZOID AREA? 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S JUST KIND OF LIKE ONE ROAD IN AND ONE ROAD OUT AROUND THE SCHOOLS.
YEAH, RIGHT NOW I GOT, I GOT THIS THING DOWN NOW.
SO THAT WOULD BE, WE STRATEGICALLY THINK THERE'S GOING, WOULD BE A, A TIE RIGHT HERE BECAUSE IT, IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS ROAD AND IT'S, IT'S GOOD SIDE DISTANCE AND IT'S APPLE DISTANCE FROM THIS INTERSECTION.
UH, AS FAR AS THIS ONE, UH, IS CONCERNED THAT THAT ONE'S REALLY NOT, THIS IS A VERY PRELIMINARY,
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WE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THIS THING NAILED DOWN RIGHT NOW.BUT IF YOU'RE ASKING COULD THAT ROAD COME OUT AND TIE IN OVER HERE? YES.
UH, WE THINK IT'D JUST BE MY CONCERN ABOUT THE SCHOOL.
IT ALREADY GETS A LOT OF TRAFFIC AROUND THERE.
WELL, ONE THING THAT'S NICE ONCE THIS, I MEAN THIS SUBDIVISION, THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE ROADS TO THE SOUTH.
THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, A TIE TO RONALD REAGAN HERE AND IT WILL GIVE ACTUALLY, UH, SOME OF THE, PROBABLY SOME OF THE MAMAS AND DADDIES WAYS TO GET IN AND OUTTA HERE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE NOW, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO GET IN AND OUTTA THE SCHOOL FROM MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.
'CAUSE WE WILL, WE WOULD BE TYING IN TO ALL OF THOSE ROADS AND WE, WE BELIEVE WHAT PART OF THIS WE GONNA BE, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO TIE ALL THE TRAILS AND PATHS AND GET EVERY, YOU KNOW, WHERE KIDS CAN GO, WALK TO THE SCHOOL AND MAKE IT VERY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY TO AND FROM THE SCHOOL.
THOSE ROADS ARE GONNA TAKE, THEY'RE GONNA GO INTO SUPER DEPTH ON, ON, ON WHERE THOSE THINGS COME IN AND OUT BASED ON OUR ORDINANCES AND WHERE THINGS NEED TO GO.
I THINK THEIR BIGGEST ASK, AND WHAT THEY'RE WANTING US TO DO TOO IS HEY, THEIR BIG, THEIR, THE, THOSE FEW ARROWS THAT WE'RE POINTING TO THOSE AREAS, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ASKING TO CHANGE IS THE ACTUAL FUTURE LAND USE OF THOSE AREAS AND WHAT WE THINK ABOUT IT.
UM, MS. GRIFFIN, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
SORRY IF YOU KNOW IT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
UM, IF YOU'RE ON JOURNEY PARKWAY, THE TRACKS THAT ARE JUST TO THE NORTHEAST, UM, RIGHT PAST THE PREP SCHOOL, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE ZONING OR FUTURE ZONING IS? LIKE? KIND OF WHERE THAT ORANGE MM-HMM.
THIS IS THE BARKSDALE SUBDIVISION.
AND I, I AM NOT SURE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THAT CORNER.
I DON'T THINK THAT ONE'S CHANGING RIGHT NOW.
I COULD LOOK REAL QUICK ON MY MAP, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
IT'LL KEEP WELL, PECAN PECAN CREEK, WHICH IS JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S SIXTIES OR THE, THE LOT SIZE.
IS THAT WHAT GEE YEAH, THAT'S WHAT, WHAT GUILLEN HAD ON.
UM, SO I'M LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAPS RIGHT NOW AND, AND SO LIKE, LIKE ON REAGAN, WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING, SO THAT'S GREAT.
BUT I'M WITH YOU ON THAT WESTERN SIDE OF THE SCHOOL, THE WESTERN SIDE OF, UH, SANDBAR LANE.
THIS IS THE, THE PART THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING? MM-HMM.
UM, AND I THINK WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE PHYSICAL MAP OF IT RIGHT NOW, IT LINES UP PERFECTLY WITH THE TRACK RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
THAT'S A GREAT FRONTAGE RIGHT THERE FOR COMMERCIAL COMING IN.
UM, THE QUESTION MARK FOR ME IS THAT NORTHEAST SIDE OF JOURNEY PARKWAY, IF WE HAVE PLANS FOR JOURNEY PARKWAY TO BE MORE COMMERCIAL AS YOU GO EAST ON IT, THEN I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS STAYING WITH OUR CURRENT PLUM THERE.
BUT IF NOT, I COULD GET ON BOARD WITH CHANGING THAT ONE ITTY BITTY PIECE ON THE, UM, TOP EASTERN SIDE TO SUPPORT THE RESIDENTIAL.
SO YEAH, THIS BLACK LINE RIGHT HERE.
SO THEY HAVEN'T COME FORWARD WITH A A PROJECT YET, SO IT DOESN'T TECHNICALLY HAVE ZONING, BUT WHEN THEY DO DECIDE, THEN THEY'LL GET ANNEXED AND Y'ALL WILL TALK ABOUT THE ZONING RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
THIS IS, UH, THE BARKSDALE SUBDIVISION THAT'S, UM, CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, THE DAYCARE AND THE, AND THE CHURCH BEHIND IT.
AND THEN YOU GET INTO THE JOSEPH PROPERTY WHERE THEY'VE GOT A MIX.
WELL, THERE'S CATALINA RANCH, THAT SUBDIVISION AND THEN THE JOSEPH PROPERTY WHERE THEY HAVE, UH, IT'S MULTIFAMILY AND THEN IT TRANSITIONS TO COMMERCIAL ONCE IT GETS TO RONALD REAGAN.
THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD.
AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS JUST ON THE, THIS SIDE OF RUSSIAN CREEK, RIGHT? THE SOUTH SIDE THERE.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? SO JUST WITH THE, WITH THE ONES THAT HE JUST MENTIONED ON, THAT'S THE, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE.
IF I'M, IF PECAN CREEK AND THERE WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS FIFTIES, BUT I KNOW IT WAS PROBABLY SIXTIES IF, IF MY MEMORY IS RIGHT.
IT WAS, IT WAS ONE OF THE LAST ONES THAT WE HAD MULTIPLE, UH, SIZES IN THERE.
SO I THINK IT'S 50 SIXTIES, SEVENTIES, FIFTIES.
AND WHAT THEY'RE, I THOUGHT THERE WERE A FEW SEVENTIES TOWARDS THE EDGE.
SO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT TO BE SEVENTIES HERE TOO.
WHICH, SO JUST KEEP THAT IN, IN IN MIND TOO.
BUT YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SFS.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO I THINK I COULD, UM, I COULD SUPPORT IT ON ARROW NUMBER THREE, BUT NONE OF THE OTHER ARROWS.
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WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? WELL, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS LIKE, SO I WANT TO GO LEFT TO RIGHT.SO BOTTOM LEFT, BOTTOM LEFT THERE.
THAT'S GONNA BE ADMINISTRATIVE.
SO YOU'RE, YOU SAY THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S WAY I'M SAYING IS YOU'VE GOT THREE THINGS POINTING.
WHY NOT? WHY NOT THE ONE ON THE LEFT BOTTOM? OH, THAT WOULD BE, BECAUSE THAT'S ADMINISTRATIVE.
BECAUSE IT, IT WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF ANYWAYS.
SO THERE'S BARELY ONLY TWO ASKS.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE THOUGHTS? I, I CAN'T ADD TO THAT.
THAT'S, I MEAN, I'VE SAID IT ALL.
SO, UH, OUR ESTEEMED CITY SECRETARY HAS INFORMED ME THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE TO GIVE, I'M SORRY, HOW DID YOU PHRASE THAT? SUPPORT.
SO CAN WE VOTE TO SUPPORT A PORTION? YES.
THEN I WILL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE VOTE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING, UH, ALUM CHANGE JUST TO THE NORTH EAST PART.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY, THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THIS IS NOT APPROVING ANY DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS JUST A FUTURE LAND USE MAP OR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE.
IT'S NOT EVEN A CHANGE, IT'S JUST SAYING THEY CAN, THAT WE CAN SUPPORT IT.
IT'S NOT APPROVING THE CHANGE.
IT'S JUST, SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF IT'S KEEP GOING DOWN THE PATH DISCUSSION AND WE WILL CONSIDER DIS CONTINUED DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO US.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[27. Receive a presentation on traffic options and improvements related to the closing of a portion of street right-of-way commonly known as County Road 177 (CR 177).]
27, RECEIVE A PRESENTATION ON TRAFFIC OPTIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS RELATED TO THE CLOSING OF A PORTION OF STREET RIGHT OF WAY, COMMONLY KNOWN AS COUNTY ROAD 1 77 PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR ELLISON.THIS ITEM IS TO PRESENT, UH, SOME OF THE DATA AND OPTIONS AND ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE DONE THAT WAS REQUESTED AT THE OCTOBER 10TH MEETING REGARDING THE CLOSING OF THE WATER CROSSING AT COUNTY ROAD 1 77.
SO, UM, C COUNCIL REQUESTED, UM, STAFF TO, UM, COLLECT OR IF WE HAD ANY ADT, WE DID NOT.
SO WE WENT AND COLLECTED, UM, ADT, WHICH IS AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC.
WE HAD A COMPANY PLACE TWO TRAFFIC, UH, COUNTERS.
ONE WAS AT THE EAST OF THE LOW WATER CROSSING THERE AND THE LOW WATER CROSSING IS, IS SHOWN WITH THE STAR.
AND THEN ONE WAS JUST EAST OF RONALD REAGAN.
SO, UM, THE AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC, UM, FOR THE WEEKDAY WAS A LITTLE OVER 2,100 CARS.
UM, SO THAT WAS AT, AT THIS LOCATION AND THEN IT, AN AVERAGE AT THIS LOCATION WAS ABOUT 1800.
SO WITH THAT DATA, WE WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT, UM, THE TRAFFIC ALONG 1 77 AND CROSSING THAT BRIDGE, 1400, ALMOST 1500 WERE, EXCUSE ME, CUT THROUGH TRIPS.
AND SO THERE WERE REALLY ONLY 346 LOCAL TRIPS THAT GENERATE, UM, ON THAT ROAD.
UH, AGAIN, I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT WE COLLECTED THIS DATA SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY SO THAT WE COULD ALSO, UM, CATCH THE CHURCH TRAFFIC THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE LAST, UM, PRESENTATION.
SO WE HAVE, UM, A SUNDAY COUNT, WHICH I'LL DISCUSS HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY TO GET THAT WEEKDAY TRAFFIC, UH, STAFF LOOKED AT THE, UM, TIAS THAT WERE, UM, UM, SUBMITTED WITH THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS GOING IN THAT AREA.
SO THE WILD SPRINGS DEVELOPMENT HAS A LITTLE OVER 3000 NEW DAILY TRIPS.
UH, WE ESTIMATED THAT 25% OF THOSE TRIPS WOULD USE 1 77 AND THAT LOW WATER CROSSING, SO THAT GENERATED ABOUT 770 TRIPS ACROSS THE BRIDGE.
AND THE LONE STAR LANDING, UH, IF YOU REMEMBER, IS AT VALLEY VIEW AND COUNTY ROAD 1 77.
SO, UM, THAT ONE HAD WITH THE TIA 800 NEW DAILY TRIPS.
SO WE ESTIMATED A 50 50 SPLIT.
SO 50 WOULD GO EAST ACROSS THE CROSSING AND THEN 50 WEST.
SO ADDING THAT TO THE CURRENT TRAFFIC, UM, THE PROJECTED TRAFFIC WITH THOSE TWO DEVELOPMENTS, UM, WOULD SHOW ALMOST 3,300 TRIPS IF WE DID NOT CLOSE THE BRIDGE.
SO THAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CUT THROUGH TRIPS FROM WILD SPRINGS, UM, AND THEN HALF OF THE TRIPS FROM LONE STAR AND THEN ALMOST 3000 TRIPS EAST OF THE LOW WATER CROSSING.
SO LOOKING AT OUR TRANSPORTATION MASTER POND, THIS WOULD BUMP THAT KIND OF IN THAT RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR CATEGORY AT THAT POINT.
AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT ROAD IS VERY NARROW.
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WE WERE TO CLOSE THE BRIDGE, UH, OR THE LOW WATER CROSSING, WE PROJECT THAT TRAFFIC WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS, UM, EAST OF RONALD REAGAN.SO JUST, YOU KNOW, RONALD REAGAN AND 1 77 WOULD, UH, BE ABOUT 1,146 DAILY TRIPS.
AND THEN EAST OF LOWER CROSSING WOULD ONLY BE 36 'CAUSE THERE'S ONLY LIKE THREE OR FOUR HOUSES ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT.
SO THAT WOULD MAINTAIN THIS, THIS LEVEL WOULD MAINTAIN THAT RESIDENTIAL TYPE, UM, LEVEL OF TRAFFIC.
WE LOOKED AT PEAK HOUR AS WELL.
UM, SO CURRENTLY THE PEAK HOUR, UM, THIS IS 1 77 AND RONALD REAGAN WESTBOUND.
SO RIGHT AT THAT INTERSECTION, UM, WAS 7:00 AM UH, DURING THE WEEK AT 173.
SO THAT'S 173 VEHICLES THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION IN THAT HOUR.
AND THEN ON THE WEEKEND, UM, KIND OF THAT CHURCH TRAFFIC WOULD BE 134 TRIPS AT NOON.
SO IF WE CLOSE THE WATER CROSSING, UM, THE WEEKDAY TRIPS WE'RE ESTIMATING WOULD PEAK AT 19.
AND THEN THE WEEKEND OF COURSE WOULD INCREASE BECAUSE NOW THE CHURCH TRAFFIC DOESN'T HAVE THAT EASTERN OPTION.
SO WE ESTIMATE THAT WOULD BUMP UP JUST A LITTLE BIT TO 152, SO STILL LESS THAN THE CURRENT PEAK WEEKDAY, UM, BUT A LITTLE MORE THAN WHAT IT IS NOW.
AND THEN IF WE, UM, LEFT THE WATER CROSSING OPEN AND THEN HAD THAT, UM, THOSE TWO DEVELOPMENTS COME IN, WE PROJECT THE T THE PEAK WOULD, UH, JUMP UP TO 242.
OF COURSE IF WE CLOSED IT, IT WOULD BE A LOT LOWER AT 65.
UM, OH, THAT, THAT DIDN'T LOOK RIGHT THERE.
SO SOMETHING WE, UM, NOTICED OR OR NOTICED WITH OUR COLLECTION OF THE, THE TRAFFIC DATA IS THAT 153 OVERSIZED OR TRUCKS THAT WERE PROHIBITED, UM, CROSSED LITTLE WATER CROSSING.
SO, UM, ALMOST 40 TRUCKS A DAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU AVERAGE OUT OVER THE FOUR DAYS, UM, CROSS.
SO, UM, AN EXAMPLE HERE, ONE OF 'EM RAN OFF THE ROAD, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THERE'S A VERY LARGE SEMI RIGHT BEHIND IT THAT PROBABLY WOULD'VE CROSSED.
SO IF STAFF FEELS THAT IF THIS IS NOT CLOSED, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT MORE OF THIS, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE STACKING, UM, POTENTIALLY HEAD ON COLLISIONS, THAT KIND OF THING.
IF THEY START TO STACK UP, YOU KNOW, WHO BACKS UP THAT KIND OF THING.
'CAUSE IT'S VERY, VERY NARROW.
UM, THE RONALD REAGAN, UH, STUDY, I, UM, HAVE SOME DATA HERE FROM THAT.
SO IT HAD A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS NEAR THE 1 77 INTERSECTION WITH RONALD REAGAN.
UM, AT THE MOST NEAR TERM IS THE, UH, AT CRYSTAL FALLS IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS, IT'S, IT'S, UM, RECOMMENDING THAT WE ADD A DUAL LEFT.
AND I HAVE PICTURES COMING UP.
UM, KIND OF THE MIDTERM RECOMMENDATION IN THAT FIVE TO SEVEN OR FIVE TO 10 YEAR RANGE, UH, WOULD BE TO ADD A DOUBLE LEFT AT JOURNEY AND REAGAN.
AND THEN IN THAT LONG TERM, UM, GREATER THAN 10 YEARS, IT RECOMMENDS CLOSING THAT MEDIAN GAP AT COUNTY ROAD 1 77 AND REAGAN.
SO THIS IS THE CRYSTAL FALLS INTERSECTION, SO YOU CAN KINDA SEE THE DIRT HERE.
SO IT WOULD BE EXPANSION OF THIS, THIS TURN BAY TO ADD A SECOND, UH, DUAL LEFT THERE.
SIMILARLY AT JOURNEY, WE WOULD EXPAND, I THINK THERE'S SOME, UH, FRONTAGE ROAD THERE RIGHT NOW AND MAKE A, A DOUBLE LEFT AT JOURNEY.
AND THEN LASTLY, IN THAT KIND OF OUTER, OUTER LYING TERM, UH, GREATER THAN 10 YEARS, UM, THEY WOULD RECOMMEND CLOSING THIS INTERSECTION.
SO THAT EFFECTIVELY MAKES THAT JUST A DEDICATED, DEDICATED RIGHT TURN.
UH, WE WERE REQUESTED TO LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL FOR ADDING THAT RIGHT TURN LANE NOW IN THE, IN THE SHORT TERM.
SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF CHALLENGES THERE.
UH, WE WOULD NEED TO WIDEN THE PAVEMENT.
UM, AND THEN MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL WIDENING, MAYBE THREE FEET OR SO, UH, FOR SOME DITCHES IS KIND OF, THIS IS REALLY HARD TO SEE.
UM, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PICTURE, IT'S, IT'S REALLY STEEP HERE.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO ADD ABOUT A SEVEN FOOT RETAINING WALL, UM, RIGHT AWAY, ACQUISITION TREE CLEARING.
AND THEN THE CULVERTS RIGHT HERE AT REAGAN WOULD NEED TO BE EXTENDED.
SO IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY CHALLENGING AND, AND GONNA BE QUITE EXPENSIVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN WHEN THE MEDIAN IS CLOSED, THAT WILL ALL BE THROWAWAY COST AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL YOU CAN DO AT THAT POINT WOULD BE MAKE A RIGHT.
SO, UM, THE MEDIAN CLOSURE, AS I MENTIONED, WAS IN, UH, KIND OF THOSE OUTER LYING YEARS, BUT STAFF LOOKED INTO, UM, THE POTENTIAL FOR KIND OF DOING SOMETHING IN THE INTERIM IF NEEDED.
SO WE COULD, WE FIRST LOOKED AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHICH IS MORE OF LIKE A RAISED, UH, CONCRETE MEDIAN, BUT IT WASN'T RECOMMENDED DUE TO THE SPEEDS ON REAGAN.
ANYTHING OVER ABOUT 45 MILES AN HOUR, IT'S NOT RECOMMENDED.
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SO, UM, WE COULD PLACE SOMETHING LIKE THIS DELINEATORS.UM, SO IT WOULD BLOCK OFF THIS.
AND SO FOLKS COULDN'T GET ACROSS THIS WAY.
CHALLENGE WITH DELINEATORS IS THEY GET HIT A LOT, SO IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE PRETTY, UH, PRETTY CUMBERSOME FOR US, I THINK.
I THINK THEY WOULD GET DAMAGED QUITE FREQUENTLY AND WITH THE CLOSURE THAT TRAFFIC COMING OUTTA HERE EXCEPT FOR THOSE SUNDAY MORNINGS IS GONNA BE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED.
SO, UM, WE DON'T FEEL THAT'S IT'S NEEDED AT THIS TIME.
I THINK THE STUDY LOOKED AT TRAFFIC CURRENTLY AND DIDN'T RECOMMEND IT UNTIL THOSE OUTER YEARS.
SO, UH, I THINK WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL GOING WITH THAT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF COUNSEL OR, OR WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO IT, WE COULD DO SOMETHING, SOMETHING ALONG THESE MEANS IN THE, IN THE MEANTIME.
AND THEN I WANTED TO INCLUDE, JUST AS A REMINDER OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE CLOSING WAS CLOSED, THE CROSSING WAS CLOSED, UM, WE WOULD UPDATE THE SIGNAGE.
UM, THIS PICTURE IS FROM RECENT TIME, SO SINCE WE EVEN TALKED JUST A MONTH AGO, WE'VE HAD TO CLOSE THE CROSSING TWICE, UH, DUE TO, TO THE WATER OVER, EXCUSE ME, WATER OVER THE ROAD.
SO, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THIS CLOSURE, PERMANENT CLOSURE WOULD, WOULD RELIEVE SOME OF THAT CONFUSION.
UM, OF COURSE WINTER MONTHS ARE COMING UP, SO WE'RE, WE'RE EXPECTING HOPEFULLY A RAINY WINTER, RIGHT? SO, UM, AND THEN ANOTHER CONCERN BROUGHT UP LAST TIME THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS, UH, THE GATE NEXT TO, UM, THE CITIZEN'S PROPERTY.
SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE IN THIS PICTURE, BUT UM, THESE POSTS ARE KIND OF IN THE SAME SPOT HERE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, WHEN THIS WAS CLOSED, UM, PEOPLE WOULD TRY TO USE HIS AREA TO TURN AROUND AND DAMAGE HIS HIS, SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO MOVE IT FURTHER, CLOSER TO THE, TO THE CROSSING, UM, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER EAST SO THAT YOU CAN ALREADY SEE THAT IT'S A LOT WIDER IN THIS AREA.
AND IT ALSO GETS AWAY, UM, HIS, HIS DRIVEWAY IS UP HERE.
SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD RELOCATE THE GATE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN.
AND THEN THIS IS JUST TO REMIND YOU OF THE ALTERNATE PATH, UM, THAT WOULD BE, IT'S ABOUT A TWO TO THREE MINUTE, UH, DIFFERENCE IF YOU WENT, YOU KNOW, VIA 1 77 OR IF YOU WENT ALL THE WAY AROUND, UM, JUST BECAUSE THOSE ROADS ARE WIDER AND FASTER WITH THE SPEED.
AND THEN, UH, THE BOND WAS APPROVED WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
SO WE WILL HAVE THIS DESIGN AND RIDE OF WAY ACQUISITION UNDERWAY.
SO WHILE IT DOESN'T CREATE ANY, UM, CONNECTIONS NORTH SOUTH, REALLY IT CONNECTS OVER HERE TO 1 77 EVENTUALLY.
BUT, UM, IT DOES RE RELIEVE AND PROVIDE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR CLOSER, YOU KNOW, THAT CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, IT'S, IT'S, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO DOWN TO JOURNEY AT THIS POINT.
UH, WHEN THIS IS CONSTRUCTION CON CONSTRUCTED.
UM, ALSO FOR THE, THE CHURCH PROPERTY HERE, THEY, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE AN OPTION, YOU KNOW, TO CREATE A DRIVEWAY, UH, FOR A SECONDARY, UM, EXIT AND ENTRANCE INTO THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THEN FINALLY, UM, THIS ISN'T AN ACTION ITEM TONIGHT, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO BRING IT BACK FOR ACTION, UM, TO CLOSE THE LOW WATER CROSSING, WE WOULD AGAIN HAND DELIVER NOTICES TO THESE RESIDENTS HERE.
UH, WE WOULD UPDATE THE FLYER, UM, AND GIVE THEM THAT NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR, FOR NEXT MEETING, THAT FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU COUNSEL, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? SO, YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS DEFINITELY IS MORE INFORMATION THAT HELPS ME MAKE A BETTER DECISION AND I DID SOME THINGS I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE IS ALSO JUST CUTTING THAT OR SHUTTING DOWN THAT CUT THROUGH.
MM-HMM
'CAUSE I AM CONCERNED THAT WE WILL INCREASE A LITTLE BIT OF TRAFFIC AND YOU GET SO BACKED UP JUST TRYING TO GET ACROSS TO GO LEFT TO GO SOUTH.
UM, SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD ACTUALLY LOOK AT TO, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXTEND THE LEFT TURN LANE, UH, NORTHBOUND TO, UM, WESTBOUND CRYSTAL FALLS.
THEY'RE GOING NORTH ON RONALD REAGAN 'CAUSE IT ALREADY GETS BACKED UP.
YOU RUN OUTTA LEFT TURN LANE ALREADY.
UH, THIS ONE IS THAT CRYSTAL FALLS? THIS IS CRYSTAL FALLS, YES.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THIS TURN LANE HERE, THIS TURN BAY GETS BACKED UP PRETTY.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING, I MEAN IT'S IN THE LESS THAN FIVE YEAR PLAN.
SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CI P'S GONNA START LOOKING AT, UM, PRETTY SOON IS, IS PROBABLY MAKING THAT A DOUBLE, BUT JUST TO ALLEVIATE THE LAY TIME OF PEOPLE TRYING TO GET OUT.
UM, MY ONLY COMMENT ON THAT IS I HAVE A CONCERN WITH THE DELINEATORS MM-HMM.
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IF, IF IT'S A POSSIBILITY TO SEE LIKE A BEEFIER OPTION THAN LIKE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE AT UM, VISTA RIDGE FOR YES.FOR THE BIKE LANES THAT ARE NEVER UP
THEY JUST, I THINK, I THINK THOSE ONES HAVE JUST GIVEN UP ON LIFE.
AND JUST ONE MORE, CAN YOU JUST TELL US AGAIN HOW MANY COMMERCIAL VEHICLES? 153 IN FIVE DAYS.
AND THAT'S THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU CAN EXPECT THAT TO INCREASE WHEN CONSTRUCTION AND STUFF STARTS IN THAT AREA.
ESPECIALLY, I MEAN, IT'S THE SHORTEST ROUTE THROUGH.
SO HAVING THAT PICTURE OF THE TRUCK.
MM-HMM,
THAT'S WHAT, THIS COULD BE A REALITY SHOW.
I MEAN, WE COULD BE FAMOUS FOR JUST TRUCKERS TRYING TO GET THROUGH THAT ROAD.
UH, SO THAT, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.
NOT JUST THE TRUCK, BUT THE TRUCK.
WELL THERE'S A LOT OF BLIND THAT'S, THAT'S AS POWERFUL AS THE BUS.
I WAS GONNA SAY WITH THAT SHOW, YOU COULD SAVE THE BUS FOR SWEEPS WEEK.
YOU COULD GET ALL THE RATINGS.
IS THERE ANY IDEA OF HOW LONG TRAFFIC WAS BACKED UP TRYING TO GET THIS TRUCK OUT OF THE WAY? I DON'T KNOW.
I'M NOT SURE HOW OLD THIS PICTURE IS.
A CITIZEN ACTUALLY SENT IT INTO US, UM OH WOW.
UM, THAT WAS IN, BECAUSE WE, WE RECEIVED SEVERAL IN FAVOR LAST TIME.
UM, ANYWAY, SHE SENT IT LIKE THAT MORNING.
JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
SO, UM, WELL WHEN WE TALKED, I, I PREFER THE OPTION OF CLOSING THE THE CROSSING.
THE CROSSING, THE, THE MEDIAN.
WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO SOME OPTIONS ON THE DELINEATORS AS WELL.
'CAUSE I KNOW THEY HAVE THE STURDIER ONE, LIKE A MOPAC AND STUFF LIKE THAT, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU CAN SLOWLY DRIVE OVER THEM BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU HIT THEM AT ANY KIND OF YEAH, IT'S GONNA COST DAMAGE.
SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE ROBUST.
EVEN LIKE WHAT THEY PUT UP DURING, UM, DURING LIKE HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION, THOSE BIG CONCRETE ONES.
THAT'S WHY WE COULDN'T DO THE OPTION WITH EVEN THE RAISED CURVE JUST BECAUSE OF THE SPEED'S ON RE MM-HMM.
BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK, WE DIDN'T MAKE THE SPEED LIMIT 40 MILES AN HOUR AND RONALD RE BY NOW THAT'S FINE
WE CAN JUST DO IT IN, IN PORTIONS HERE AND THERE AND CARLOS WOULD LOVE US.
UM, I WAS WONDERING, IS THERE A PLAN TO PUT, I KNOW WE HAVE THE NO TRUCK SIGN AND WE'RE GONNA PUT A SIGN OUT THAT SAYS THE ROAD IS CLOSED, BUT IS THERE A PLAN BEFORE YOU GET TO THE AREA WHERE THE GATE IS TO PUT ANOTHER SIGN RIGHT IN CASE SOMEBODY MISSED THE FIRST ONE WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN? LIKE MAYBE TURN AROUND NOW.
SO ALL OF THESE WILL BE, ALL THESE WILL BE NO OUTLETS SO THAT, THAT ARE THE NO THROUGH TRUCKS.
SO YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE GOING NORTHBOUND ON REAGAN AND YOU MAKE, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THIS ONE, HEY ON 1 7 7, THERE'S NO OUTLET.
AND YOU TURN, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, THERE'S ONE ABOUT MIDWAY DOWN 'CAUSE YOU STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TURN AROUND HERE AT VALLEY VIEW AND THEN THERE'LL BE THE ROAD CLOSED BARRICADE AT THAT POINT.
UM, I LOVE THE IDEA OF MOVING THE GATE AWAY FROM THE GENTLEMAN'S PROPERTY.
UM, IT LOOKED LIKE ON THAT SLIDE, LIKE THERE'S ALMOST LIKE A NATURAL BUILT-IN AREA TO TURN AROUND THERE.
IS THAT BIG ENOUGH? SO WE'LL PROBABLY STILL WIDEN THIS OUT HERE.
UM, IT JUST, WE JUST HAVE MORE SPACE HERE THAN WE DO.
UM, HERE YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TRY TRYING TO WIDEN RIGHT HERE, THERE'S A TREE AND REALLY HIS FENCE IS REALLY, REALLY CLOSE.
YOU CAN'T SEE TO THE RIGHT, BUT THERE'S TREES RIGHT, RIGHT ALONG THE OF THE ROAD.
IT TAKES QUITE A BIT OF, QUITE A BIT OF CLEARING AND, AND THERE'S, THERE'S RIGHT OF WAY THERE, BUT IT, IT GETS TRICKY.
MOVING IT, MOVING IT FURTHER DOWN.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE'S ANOTHER GATE TURN.
I DON'T TURN, DON'T A PICTURE OF THAT, BUT THAT THERE'S SO LITTLE TRAFFIC THERE I THINK.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO SOLVE ONE PROBLEM BY CREATING ANOTHER.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO HOUSES RIGHT THERE, SO I, WE HAVE A LOT MORE SPACE ON THAT OTHER, OTHER SIDE AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NOBODY ONCE, ONCE IT'S CLOSED, THERE'S GONNA BE NOBODY GOING DOWN THAT WAY.
THEY'RE GONNA FIGURE IT OUT PRETTY QUICKLY.
BUT THERE'LL BE SIGNAGE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE SIGN BRIDGE.
NORTHBOUND OR SOUTHBOUND ON 1 75 AND THEN RIGHT AS YOU TURN OFF AND THEN RIGHT.
HONESTLY RIGHT AS YOU TURN OFF, THERE'S A REALLY LARGE SPACE RIGHT HERE.
UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF ROOM RIGHT THERE TO TURN AROUND.
AND WE WILL, WE'LL DO THE SAME THING DOWN HERE.
MAKE SURE THERE'S AMPLE SPACE IF THEY HAPPEN TO DRIVE AROUND THE BARRICADE.
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BIG THE SIGNS ARE? ARE THEY LIKE FLASHING BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T READ SIGNS?UH, WE'LL ALSO PUT UP, UM, MESSAGE BOARDS TO AS, AS THIS IS HAPPENING TO, YOU KNOW, ALERT THEM THAT IT'S NEW.
AND I REALLY DO THINK IT WON'T TAKE VERY LONG FOR THEM TO REALIZE WE, WE DIDN'T TAKE ACTION ON THIS.
'CAUSE THERE MERELY WASN'T SOME DATA AND WE HAD SOME PEOPLE COMING UP AND SPEAKING, DO WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THE DATA WE NEED NOW TO BRING THIS BACK? YEAH.
SO I'LL BE HONEST, I KNOW WE NOT TAKING ACTION ON TONIGHT, JUST WANNA MAKE YEAH.
BUT NOW THAT I UNDERSTAND WHO ACTUALLY USES IT AND THE PERIODS, UM, IT GIVES ME BETTER INFORMATION TO MAKE A BETTER DECISION.
SO I THINK WE CAN BRING THIS BACK FOR, FOR ACTION.
I HAD A LOT OF HELP FROM ENGINEERING AND, AND MY PROJECT MANAGER TOO.
SO THEY, THEY PUT A LOT OF THIS DATA TOGETHER FOR ME.
[28. Discuss and consider action on the annual appointment of the Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) No. 1 Board Chair for a term from January 1, 2024 through December 31, 2024.]
CONSIDER ACTION ON THE ANNUAL APPOINTMENT OF THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE.TOUR NUMBER ONE BOARD CHAIR FOR A TERM FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2024 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2024.
UM, IT IS, HISTORICALLY IT'S BEEN, AT LEAST AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, IT'S BEEN WHOEVER IS IN THE CITY SEAT ON THE TOURS BOARD AND THAT IS ME.
SO IT FEELS WEIRD, BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR MYSELF TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH BOARD.
AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
I THINK I, IT'S, IT'S SUPER EXCITING.
YOU SHOULD COME TO ONE OF OUR MEETINGS.
[29. Council Member Future Agenda Items [Any deliberation of or decision about the subject of the inquiry shall be limited to a proposal to place the subject on the agenda for a subsequent meeting.]]
COUNCIL MEMBER.FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ANY DELIBERATION OF OR DIS DISCUSS, SORRY, DECISION ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF THE INQUIRY SHALL BE LIMITED TO A PROPOSAL TO PLACE THE SUBJECT ON THE AGENDA FOR A SUBSEQUENT MEETING.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT, MOVING ALONG.
[30. Council Member Closing Statements.]
30, EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE ITEM OF THE NIGHT.COUNCIL MEMBER CLOSING COMMENTS.
UM, I KNOW SEVERAL OF US HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, VISIT THE DEEP WATER INTAKE CONSTRUCTION SITE, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STA TO STAFF FOR ORGANIZING THAT FOR US.
AND, UH, IT WAS QUITE AN EXPERIENCE.
THERE'S NOTHING LIKE BEING, WE SEE THOSE PICTURES, YOU PRESENT US WITH SOME GREAT PICTURES WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU UPDATE US, BUT THERE IS NOTHING LIKE BEING 350 FEET UNDERGROUND AND SEEING THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND THE CONCRETE AND THE MACHINES AND, AND EVERYTHING, HOW THE WORK IS DONE.
THAT THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY AMAZING.
SO I WANNA WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
UH, ENJOY YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY, BUT MAINLY ENJOY SOME REALLY GOOD PIE, PUMPKIN PIE, APPLE PIE OR PECAN PIE BECAUSE THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS PECAN PIE.
PRETEND I HAVE TWO ITEMS. SO CAT, HOW MENTIONED THE VICTORIAN CHRISTMAS, THAT'S THIS SATURDAY AT THE MASON HOMESTEAD.
I BELIEVE IT'S 11 TO THREE, SO HOPE TO SEE YOU GUYS OUT THERE.
AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM I HAVE IS I WANNA CONGRATULATE LEANDER ISD.
THEY WON, UH, A NATIONAL HONOR OF BEING AP DISTRICT OF THE YEAR.
SO AP IS A COLLEGE BOARD ADVANCED PLACEMENT AND SO THEY WON FOR LARGE DISTRICT.
SO THEY DID RECEIVE THE AWARD TODAY AND I THINK NATIONALLY NOBODY EVEN CAME CLOSE TO THE WORK THAT LEANDER ISD DOES IN THEIR AP PROCESS AND CLASSES.
AND I KNOW THE MAYOR, MAYOR DELLY AND COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON WERE THERE TO REPRESENT CITY COUNCIL.
OH, AND HAPPY THANKSGIVING FOR THOSE WHO CELEBRATE.
SO JUST WANNA THANK PARKS FOR A REALLY FUN EVENT, UH, A GOOD EVENT LAST SATURDAY, UH, TO RECOGNIZE VETERANS IN OUR CITY.
IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING AND UH, WE CAN JUST NEVER THANK THOSE FOLKS ENOUGH.
UM, MATTER OF FACT, WE HEARD ABOUT ONE TONIGHT.
I DON'T THINK HE'S ON THE WALMART, SO I MAY BE APPROACHING YOU TO SEE IF WE CAN GET HIM ON THE WALL FROM WORLD WAR II.
HOW WAS TOLD WAS NOT ON THE WALL.
AND THEN SECONDLY, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE LEANER POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT WAS KIND OF A ROUGH WEEK FROM MY, UM, PREVIOUS AGENCY.
THEY'VE SUFFERED QUITE A FEW LOSSES AND THEN THEIR MOST RECENT ONE WAS ON SUNDAY, UH, WITH THE CRASH HERE ON 2243.
AND JUST THE, UM, THE RESPECT BETWEEN, UH, ALL THE AGENCIES FOR THE ESCORT.
I ALSO THANK, UH, WILLIAMSON COUNTY SHERIFF, UH, GLEASON FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION, GEORGETOWN PD AND OF COURSE LEANER PD.
SO JUST THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR HELPING US THROUGH A VERY DIFFICULT TIME.
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BEAUTIFUL PLACE.SO I WANNA WISH EVERYBODY HAPPY THANKSGIVING TOO.
I THINK ME AND MY FAMILY ARE VERY THANKFUL TO LIVE IN THIS CITY AT THIS TIME.
THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, THERE CHALLENGES AND THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS HAPPENING.
SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO, UM, TO BE THANKFUL FOR FUTURE RAIN THAT'S COMING OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
AND, UH, AND JUST THAT THIS IS A, THIS IS A PLACE WHERE A MELTING POT OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT, UM, IDEAS AND, AND, UM, AND CULTURES AND EVERYTHING COMING TOGETHER.
AND I'M JUST, I'M THANKFUL THAT WE FIND A WAY TO STILL, UH, KEEP THE PEACE, UM, WHEN THERE'S A BIG NEED FOR THAT AROUND OUR WORLD RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, I'M JUST GONNA DECLARE PEACE AND RAIN OVER THIS CITY, UM, OVER THIS NEXT YEAR.
UH, HAPPY THANKSGIVING AND UM, CONGRATULATIONS TO LEANER ISD WHAT AN AMAZING JOB HAS BEEN DONE IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, WITH ADVANCED PLACEMENT TESTING.
SOME NUMBERS THAT THEY GAVE TODAY THAT WERE ASTOUNDING WERE, THERE'S ALMOST 4,500 STUDENTS THAT TOOK A AP EXAM, UM, IN LEANDER ISD IN 2023, AND THAT WAS A 10% INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR, BUT 72% OF THOSE KIDS TAKING THOSE EXAMS PASSED THAT EXAM, MEANING THAT THEY GOT A THREE OR BETTER AND THEY GOT COLLEGE CREDIT IN HIGH SCHOOL THAT CAN BE ACCEPTED IN COLLEGE.
SO THEY ESTIMATED THAT WAS A SAVINGS OF ABOUT $8 MILLION IN TUITION ACROSS THE STUDENTS THAT TOOK THAT TEST.
SO THAT'S PRETTY AMAZING THAT LEANDER OFFERS THAT TO OUR STUDENTS AND THAT THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT.
UM, AND YEAH, AND JUST TO, TO COMMENT ON THAT TOO, UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY HUMBLING AT THE CEREMONY TODAY BECAUSE, UM, SO MANY KIDS IN LISD HAVE ACCESS TO THE AP EXAMS AND THE AP COURSES AND LIKE WHERE I GREW UP, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.
LIKE, THERE WAS NO ADVANCED CLASS, THERE WAS NO GETTING CREDIT FOR COLLEGE, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO GET TO COLLEGE.
UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S FANTASTIC, UM, TO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND, AND OUR KIDS THAT ARE GONNA DO GREAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH TO OUR STAFF FOR COORDINATING THE B-C-R-U-A VISIT.
UM, AND, UH, AND ALSO OUR VETERAN'S DAY CEREMONY LAST WEEK.
UM, FANTASTIC JOB ON A COLD DAY.
THIS IS THE HOLIDAY SHOPPING SEASON.
IT'S OFFICIALLY KICKING OFF THIS WEEK.
AND SO I HAVE THREE REMINDERS.
SHOP LOCAL, SHOP LOCAL, SHOP LOCAL.
UM, WE ARE ALWAYS PREACHING THAT HERE FROM THE DIOCESE BECAUSE WHEN YOU SPEND MONEY IN LEANDER, 70% STAYS RIGHT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, KEEPING THINGS CHUGGING ALONG AND PAYING FOR THINGS LIKE OUR PARKS AND ROADS.
UM, AND SO TONIGHT KEEPING WITH OUR SHOP LOCAL PROMISE COUNCIL PICKED UP DINNER FROM BROOKLYN HEIGHTS.
PLEASE REMEMBER WHEN YOU ARE OUT DOING YOUR SHOPPING AND DINING THIS HOLIDAY SEASON, STOP AT ONE OF OUR MANY RESTAURANTS AND STORES.
AND IF YOU CAN'T STOP AT ONE OF OUR STORES, DO YOUR ORDERING ONLINE BECAUSE WE GET A LITTLE PORTION OF THE SALES TAXES FROM THAT TOO.
UM, WE HAVE SO MANY EVENTS COMING UP.
UM, SO THIS IS A WHOLE BUNCH OF SATURDAYS THIS SATURDAY, 11 TO THREE AT THE MASON HOMESTEAD, VICTORIAN CHRISTMAS, IT'S GONNA BE FANTASTIC.
UM, AND THERE'S GONNA BE LITTLE WOODEN ORNAMENTS AVAILABLE FOR SALE.
THEY ARE EXCLUSIVE, THEY'RE LITTLE LEANDER ORNAMENTS AND THEY'RE FANTASTIC.
UM, SO MAKE IT OUT THERE IF YOU CAN.
UM, TWO SATURDAYS FROM THAT DECEMBER 2ND OLD TOWN CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL.
THE TREE IS ALREADY GOING UP AND IT IS BEAUTIFUL AND IT'S MY FAVORITE THING ALL YEAR LONG.
SO I HOPE TO SEE EVERYBODY THERE.
AND THEN, UH, TWO SATURDAYS AFTER THAT AT ON SEPTEMBER, HELLO, DECEMBER 16TH AT NOON AT BAGHDAD CEMETERY.
WE'RE HAVING THE ANNUAL WREATHS ACROSS AMERICA WHERE WE LAY WREATHS ON, UM, THE GRAVES OF VETERANS AND WE HONOR THEM RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
AND THEN LATER THAT DAY, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT WEIRD IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE LEANDER FOR SOME REASON AND GO TO AUSTIN, UM, I AM VERY HONORED TO REPRESENT LEANDER AS MOTHER GINGER AT BALLET AUSTIN IN THEIR PERFORMANCE OF THE NUTCRACKER.
SO THERE'S SOME PROMOTIONAL STUFF THAT'LL BE GOING OUT ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND I'M NOT THE ONLY MAYOR.
THEY PICKED LOTS OF MAYORS AND LIKE PRO TEMS FROM THE AREA.
SO, UH, IT'LL PROUDLY REPRESENT US THERE.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, I WANTED TO GIVE A KUDOS TO OUR STAFF.
THEY HAVE SUCCESSFULLY ROLLED OUT THE LONG AWAITED WEBSITE AND, UM, I'M SORRY FOR ALL OF THE EMAILS ABOUT WHERE DO I FIND THIS? AND, UM, THIS LINK DOESN'T WORK AND THIS NEEDS UPDATING.
UM, Y'ALL ARE FIXING THE, THE BUGS AND, AND WORKING OUT ALL OF THE LITTLE KINGS IN IT, BUT, UM, IT'S A MUCH BETTER WEBSITE AND WE APPRECIATE THE MONTHS OF WORK Y'ALL HAVE PUT INTO THIS.
AND, UM, I'LL BE EXCITED TO GET THINGS BOOKMARKED AGAIN IN THEIR NEW PLACES.
BUT, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE A FANTASTIC TOOL TO, TO
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SHARE INFORMATION WITH OUR RESIDENTS.AND SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT.
SO WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO MOVE INTO
[31. Convene into Executive Session pursuant to:
Reconvene into open session to take action as deemed appropriate in the City Council's discretion regarding:
]
AND NUMBER TWO, SECTION 5 5 1 0.074 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DISCUSS ASSIGNMENTS AND DUTIES OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE.
THE TIME IS 9:23 PM ALL RIGHT, WE ARE RECONVENING INTO OPEN SESSION AT 10:28 PM UH, TO TAKE ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. NUMBER ONE, LEANDER SPRINGS MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO.
AND NUMBER TWO, INTERIM CITY MANAGER MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO ACTION.
AND WITH THAT ITEM NUMBER 32, COUNSEL IS ADJOURNED AT 10:28 PM GOODNIGHT.