Dec 28, 2023 P&amp;Z Commission

ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE

[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]

THIS IS ITEM SIX THROUGH 12 THAT CAN BE PASSED BY A SINGLE MOTION.

IT IS AN ACTION ITEM.

MOTION TO APPROVE I SECOND.

MOTION MADE BY VICE CHAIR, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MOSS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARING.

[13. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-23-0093 to amend the current zoning of LC-2-B (Local Commercial) to adopt the Bagdad Plaza Market Minor PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning district of LC-2-A (Local Commercial) on one (1) parcel of land approximately 2.81 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R594078; and legally described as Lot 1, Block A of the Bagdad Plaza LLC Subdivision, Leander Williamson County, Texas. ]

ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ZONING CASE Z DASH TWO THREE DASH 0 9 3.

TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF LC TWO B TO ADOPT THE BAGHDAD PLAZA MARKET MINOR POD.

THIS IS WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF LC DASH TWO A, UH, ACREAGE AND PARCELS AS SHOWN ON THE AGENDA.

IT'S LOCATED AT LOT ONE BLOCK A OF THE BAGHDAD PLAZA SUBDIVISION STAFF PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING.

THIS IS A, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A ZONING REQUEST LOCATED TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF BAGHDAD ROAD AND DEXTER DRIVE.

THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED LOCAL COMMERCIAL, WHICH DOES ALLOW FOR, UM, RETAIL COMMERCIAL USES.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE TO ALLOW FOR A GAS STATION ON THE PROPERTY.

UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REMAIN IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SETBACK FROM RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS 200 FEET FROM THE PUMPS TO THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

UM, THEIR REQUEST IS FOR A BASE DISTRICT OF LC TWO A WITH THE ADDITION OF COMMERCIAL FUELING.

UM, THEY ALSO WORKED WITH STAFF TO CONFIRM THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A MINIMUM OF 10,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL BUILDING ON THE SITE AS WELL.

UM, I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? YES.

YOU EVENING.

ANY MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION? MS. GRIFFIN, THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE.

I TRUST EVERYBODY HAD A GOOD CHRISTMAS.

I KNOW IT'S A WEIRD WEEK, BUT THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP.

WE APPRECIATE THE ABILITY TO KEEP THIS MOVING FORWARD.

EXCUSE ME.

AS ROBIN SAID, THE UNDERLYING ZONING ON THE PUT IS THE SAME ZONING THAT'S THERE TODAY.

UM, THE, THE REQUEST IS TO BE ABLE TO ADD THE, THE COMMERCIAL FUEL AND, UM, THE SITE IS MUCH LARGER THAN, UH, A, A NORMAL GAS STATION OR C STORE WOULD REQUIRE.

STAFF WAS INTERESTED IN SEEING MUCH MORE THAN JUST A C STORE ON A SITE.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF ON, ON THE SIZE AND, AND THE TYPES OF BUILDINGS THAT COULD ALSO BE ON THE SITE TO FUNCTION AS A, A PLAZA AND A MARKET AND NOT JUST A C STORE.

UM, THE, EXCUSE ME, AS ROBIN, EXCUSE ME, MS. GRIFFIN SUGGESTED THE, THE, THE FUEL ISLANDS WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO BASICALLY THE NORTHWEST CORNER ALONG BAGHDAD ROAD TO COMPLY WITH, WITH ALL THE, WHICH IS NEXT TO THE CITY'S PUMP STATION.

SO THERE'S A CITY PUMP STATION ON THAT NARROW LOT THAT YOU SEE JUST TO THE NORTH OF THIS TRACK.

AND THE IDEA IS THAT THE FUEL ISLAND WOULD BE DOWN IN THAT CORNER AS WELL.

AND SO, UM, UH, STAFF SUGGESTED A PUD, WE'VE WORKED THROUGH ALL THE PUD COMMENTS WITH THEM TO, TO, UM, ADDRESS SOME MASONRY STANDARDS, SOME OTHER THINGS THAT YOUR ORDINANCE DOESN'T NORMALLY ALLOW.

AND, UH, WE THINK WE'VE, WE'VE ARRIVED AT SOMETHING WE FEEL LIKE IS, UM, WORKABLE FOR US AND MORE ATTRACTIVE TO THE CITY AND WILL ULTIMATELY YIELD A HIGHER DEVELOPMENT THAN JUST STRAIGHT ZONING WITH.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INTER DISCUSSION.

WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER MAHANN.

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FIRST OFF, UM, I, I WANNA APPLAUD THE STAFF AND THE, AND THE, UH, APPLICANT FOR USING THE MORE RESTRICTIVE USE AND ADDING IN ADDITIONAL USES VERSUS WHAT WE OFTEN SEE, WHICH IS A MORE LENIENT USE AND THEN RESTRICTING SOME OF THE USES.

SO I I, I PREFER THE MORE, UM, RESTRICTIVE FOR THE BASE, UH, THAN NOT.

IT'S JUST MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE AND I'VE SAID IT A FEW TIMES UP HERE, UM, AS WELL AS THE COMMITMENT TO DO THE COMMERCIAL.

I THINK THAT'S AMAZING.

AND THEN THE THOUGHT PUT INTO THIS, UH, WHILE I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT A GAS STATION THERE, JUST TO BE HONEST, UM, YOU KNOW, I USED TO LIVE OVER NEAR THAT AREA RIGHT ACROSS FROM BLEDSO PARK.

UM, I DON'T SEE ANY WAY TO NOT SUPPORT IT JUST GIVEN THE FACT OF IT'S A MULTI-USE CORRIDOR.

WE HAVE PRECEDENT FOR, UH, GAS STATIONS BEING NEAR, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE WE HAVE A VALERO GOING IN AT SAN GABRIEL AND BAGHDAD AS WELL.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE JUST DOESN'T WIN TONIGHT.

SO YOU'LL HAVE MY VOTE.

YEP.

I USUALLY GO LAST AND I'M JUST GONNA GO STRAIGHT DOWN THIS WAY AND GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND GO, UM, I, I DROVE OUT TO LOOK AT THE SITE TODAY BECAUSE I WAS, I WAS KIND OF NEGATIVE ABOUT WHAT ABOUT A GAS STATION AND THE PUMPS BEING CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL.

SO I WANTED TO SEE WHERE THE HOMES WERE.

AND IT, YOU ARE CORRECT, IT IS A VERY LARGE SITE.

SO, UM, I I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

ARE THE, ARE THE PUMP, SO THE PUMPS AND UH, ALL ACCOMPANYING THINGS WITH THAT CLOSER TO THE STREET, CLOSER TO BAGHDAD IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN THAT NORTHWEST CORNER AND KIND OF ALONG THE FRONT STREET THERE? YES, MA'AM.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY A SITE PLANNING DEAL.

BUT YES, AS, AS WE WORKED THROUGH THAT, WE LOOKED AT A COUPLE SCENARIOS, BUT IT BOTH SCENARIOS WHETHER THEY PARALLEL OR PERPENDICULAR TO BAGHDAD ARE OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT, AND, AND THE, AND WE ALSO TIED THE, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LARGER BUILDING TO THE, UH, SIMULTANEOUS TO THE, THE C-STORE AS WELL.

SO THE ENTIRE MARKET PLAZA WILL GET CONSTRUCTED WITH THAT.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THAT.

AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

BAGHDAD IS AN ARTERIAL AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S WHY WE FEEL THAT.

BUT I, I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR SENTIMENT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

'CAUSE I WAS MAINLY CONCERNED WITH THE, THE TWO, UH, RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT FRONT ONTO, UH, DEXTER, YOU KNOW? YES MA'AM.

AS THOSE ARE THE ONES GOING TO THAT I WILL BE THE CLOSEST TO IT.

SO THOSE WERE, AND WE'LL BE AS FAR FROM THEM AS WE WILL BE DI YOU KNOW, DIAGONALLY ACROSS OUR PROPERTY AS FAR FROM AS WE CAN GET.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

YOU BE OKAY.

COMMISSIONER MOSS, I JUST WANT TO KNOW, UM, WHAT TYPE OF, UM, RETAIL ARE YOU THINKING GONNA BE THERE BESIDES THE GAS STATION? WELL, UM, SO THE OWNER'S PROPOSAL IS, IS ACTUALLY A MUCH LARGER MARKET.

SO LIKE IF YOU THINK KIND OF A MEAT MARKET TYPE DEAL.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S IN THAT ACTIVITY CORRIDOR AS WELL.

SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, THE SITE IS MUCH LARGER THAN EVEN THAT WOULD NEED.

SO IT WOULD BE SOME OTHER TYPICAL NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL TYPE THINGS THAT FIT IN THE LC ZONING CATEGORY.

SO, UM, THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL THAT'S THERE TODAY IS, IS WHAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE THERE, BUT IT WILL BE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES BEYOND JUST THE, THE LARGER MARKET.

ALRIGHT.

SO I STILL DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT OKAY.

THANK YOU .

WELL, I MEAN, IF, IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE LC, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IT'S LOCAL COMMERCIAL THAT TYPICALLY IT'S SERVICES THAT WOULD, WOULD SERVE THOSE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES AROUND THERE.

YEAH, I I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLEAR.

IT'S GONNA BE A DONUT SHOP.

IS IT GONNA BE A HERITAGE STYLIST? IS IT GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A COFFEE SHOP, IT COULD BE A DONUT SHOP.

IT COULD BE, BUT IT, IT'S, IT, IT CAN'T BE ANY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN AUTO PARTS STORE.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE A, IT'S, IT'S THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY THAT I COULD DESCRIBE THAT, BUT OKAY.

WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THE, THE LIST OF USES THAT ARE IN THERE.

I MEAN, I'LL ECHO, UH, COMMISSIONER HAN'S, UH, COMMENTS AS WELL.

I, I WAS A LITTLE HESITANT ABOUT HAVING A GAS STATION THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, SEEING THAT YOU'RE GONNA MAINTAIN THE 200 FEET, YOU KNOW, SETBACK TO THE PUMPS, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

ADDING 10,000 SQUARE FEET COMMERCIAL, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S GREAT.

COULD BE A SANDWICH SHOP, LIQUOR STORE, JUST NOT GONNA HAVE AN AUTO PARTS STORE OR A, UH, FUNERAL HOME, WHICH IS GREAT .

UH, BUT NONETHELESS, YEAH, I THINK

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BAGHDAD IS GONNA BE, IT IS, IT'S REALLY KIND OF A MAJOR RAFFA THESE DAYS ANYWAYS, SO I THINK THE AREA SUPPORTS IT.

UM, THERE'S NO PUSHBACK FROM THE HOMEOWNERS THAT WERE NOTIFIED.

I THINK YOU NOTIFIED 80, 90, 95 HOMEOWNERS WITHIN THE AREA OR IN BUSINESSES NINE, SIX.

GIVE OR TAKE.

UM, SO I, YEAH, I, I REALLY FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT A TYPE A COMPONENT AS A BASE, UM, I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE I THINK A QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.

SO, UM, YEAH, I, I DEFINITELY DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH AT THIS POINT.

COMMISSIONER CO.

UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL WITH THE GAS STATION.

UH, PART OF THIS, UH, I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL.

UM, I'M NEW TO THIS COMMISSION, SO IF THERE'S SOME IGNORANCE INHERENT TO MY NEXT QUESTION, I WILL HUMBLY COP TO THAT.

THIS MAY BE A QUESTION, UM, REALLY MORE FROM MS. GRIFFIN THAN, THAN THE APPLICANT.

UM, I'VE GOT NO CONCERN BASED ON THAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND IT.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE PEOPLE THERE.

ONLY A HANDFUL, TWO OR THREE SHOWED UP, NOBODY OBJECTED.

UM, BUT WHEN I LOOK ACROSS THE STREET, UM, TO, TO IT'S BLEDSOE, CORRECT, UM, WE'VE GOT THE POOL OVER THERE.

WE'VE GOT, UM, PLAYGROUNDS, COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES, SOCCER PARK, UM, FESTIVALS AND WHATNOT.

UM, DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESSES ARE IN THERE, IF IT IS A GREAT COFFEE SHOP, IF IT'S A NEW ICE CREAM PLACE OR WHATEVER, UH, AND IT BECOMES VERY ATTRACTIVE TO A YOUNGER CROWD THAT MAY BE OVER AT THAT PARK LOT.

WHAT, WHAT SAFEGUARDS OR PROCESSES DO WE AS A CITY HAVE FOR LOOKING AT THAT INTERSECTION AT DEXTER FOR EITHER A CROSSING OR A STOP SIGN OR A LIGHT OR, UM, AM I OFF BASE ASKING THIS QUESTION? SO IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S NOT REALLY A, A ZONING QUESTION.

UM, BUT OVER TIME THE, THE CITY DOES EVALUATE, UH, TRIPS.

SO WE DO DO STUDIES ON TRAFFIC.

SO IF THEY START TO SEE AN ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC, THEN WE CONSIDER TRAFFIC LIGHTS OR PEDESTRIAN BEACONS.

BUT JUST, IT JUST DEPENDS.

AND I'M ALL FOR THIS, IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A CONCERN I HAD LOOKING FORWARD.

SO.

THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION BEFORE WE GO.

GO AHEAD.

UM, BECAUSE THIS IS LOCAL COMMERCIAL, THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE, ARE YOU GUYS GONNA, I DON'T SEE ANY REQUESTS TO GO OUTSIDE THOSE HOURS OF OPERATION, WHICH MEANS THAT YOUR GAS STATION IS GONNA MEET THE FIVE TO 10 SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND 5:00 AM TO 11:00 PM FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.

THAT'S THE INTENT.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE A 24 7.

WE, WE, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY DISCUSSION WITH THE OWNERS CONTRARY TO THAT, SO, OKAY.

THEN I'M GOOD.

THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL SECOND.

MOTION BY VICE CHAIR, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KALO.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

14 ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

THANK YOU.

NEXT IS ITEM

[14. Discuss and consider action regarding Comprehensive Plan Case CPA-23-0008 to adopt an updated Comprehensive Plan including the update of the future land use plan and map; and to provide for related matters; Williamson & Travis Counties, Texas. ]

CONSIDER ACTION ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CASE CPA DASH 23 DASH 0 0 8 TO ADOPT AN UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, INCLUDING THE UPDATE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND MAP STAFF PRESENTATION.

SO, UM, DURING THE LAST, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, THE COMMISSION ASKED FOR STAFF TO LOOK AT THE URBAN MIXED USE LAND USE CATEGORY.

UM, THIS CATEGORY IN OUR ORDINANCE ALLOWS FOR, UH, 40 TO A HUNDRED PERCENT RESIDENTIAL.

SO STAFF DID, UM, REEVALUATE IT AND WE MADE SOME PROPOSALS, UM, TO CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL THAT IS ALLOWED.

UM, SO I HAVE IT UP ON THE SCREEN, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

UM, BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE MIX TO 0%, UM, AS WELL AS ALLOWING FOR THE VERTICAL MIXED USE, UH, LAND DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS DISCUSSED DURING OUR MEETING.

UM, AND THAT WAS THE PRIMARY CHANGE THAT WAS MADE WITH THE PLANNING ANALYSIS.

AND I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SO ALTHOUGH THIS IS ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT PUBLIC HEARING HERE ON THE AGENDA.

IT SHOULDN'T BE A PUBLIC HEARING.

I DIDN'T THINK SO, SORRY.

THANK YOU.

JUST DOUBLE CHECKING.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S START THIS TIME WITH COMMISSIONER KALAN.

UM, I HAVE NOTHING COMM, UH, VICE CHAIR.

SO THE, THE ORIGINAL INTENT THAT WHEN WE ORIGINALLY PUSHED BACK ON AND RECOMMENDED THE URBAN MIX ADJUSTMENT WAS TO REDUCE THE, UH, MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL DESIRED MIX.

AND IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL COMING IN AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.

AND THAT'S THE, SO WHAT'S ON THE, THE SCREEN AND THE YELLOW IS THE A HUNDRED PERCENT.

THAT'S THE EXISTING I KNOW, BUT, AND THE TEXT HAS ZERO AS OUR PROPOSAL.

OH, SO THE TEXT IS GONNA BE ZERO? CORRECT.

AND CLARIFY THE DESIRED MIX PERCENTAGE FOR RESIDENTIAL, SHE'LL APPLY TO FIRST STORY BUILDING FOOTPRINTS.

SO WE'RE UPDATING AND A DESIRED MIX OF 0% RESIDENTIAL

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SO IT WOULD SUPPORT THE VERTICAL MIXED USE.

SO YOU'RE THEN, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF YOU DO A ZERO TO 70 ON COMMERCIAL, HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH RESIDENTIAL DAMAGE? I'M JUST CONFUSED BECAUSE IF YOU, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME MIX THERE.

AND IF YOU'RE DOING ZERO RESIDENTIAL, WHAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THE, THE RESIDENTIAL PERCENTAGE, THAT ZERO PERCENTAGE APPLIES TO THE FIRST STORY.

SO YOUR FIRST STORY COULD BE COMMERCIAL AND THE ABOVE STORIES, RIGHT.

COULD BE RESIDENTIAL.

SO WE WON'T HAVE A PERCENTAGE FOR ABOVE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES MAKE SENSE.

A VERTICAL, IT MAY NOT BE PHRASED WELL IN THAT.

YEAH, THAT, THAT'S WHERE I WAS CONFUSED BECAUSE THE, THE, THE INTENT WAS TO LIMITS LIKE BASICALLY REQUESTS FOR, YOU KNOW, APPROVAL WHEN THE, THE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPER COMES IN AND PUTS IN 99% RESIDENTIAL AND WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A STRONGER, YOU KNOW, BALANCE MIX IN THERE.

AND, AND WE DIDN'T SEE THAT IN, IN A PREVIOUS CASE.

AND YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD TO APPROVE IT.

SO 'CAUSE IT STATE REQUIRES THAT.

SO, SO THIS WOULD SAY THE DESIRED MIX IS 0% RESIDENTIAL AND THEN A HUNDRED PERCENT COMMERCIAL.

AND WE'LL HAVE CLARIFYING TEXT THAT SAYS THAT, UM, THE 0% APPLIES TO THE GROUND FLOOR.

I SAW, I I DID SEE THAT ZERO GROUND FLOOR.

SO THE, THE GROUND FLOOR WOULD ALWAYS BE COMMERCIAL.

AND THE ABOVE THAT YOU'D HAVE THE, THE RESIDENTIAL.

SO YOU, YOU COULD, YEAH.

DID YOU HAVE ANY ESTIMATES OF WHAT THAT MIX COULD BE THEN WITH THE, WITH THE VERTICAL? IT WOULD, UM, PROBABLY COME OUT TO BE LIMITED.

IT WOULD BE LIMITED BY THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.

, RIGHT.

UM, SO IT JUST DEPENDS.

IN MOST ZONING DISTRICTS YOU'RE AT 35 FEET.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY MAYBE TWO, TWO STORIES ABOVE.

SO IT'S 3, 5, 3.

SO THREE STORIES TOTAL.

TWO STORIES OF RESIDENTIAL.

ONE STORY OF COMMERCIAL.

SO YOU COULD, YOU COULD STILL SEE AN 80 20 MIX.

PROBABLY.

PROBABLY, YEAH.

IT'S JUST WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MIX, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FOOTPRINT.

UM, BUT IF, IF Y'ALL ARE LOOKING FOR A MIX, LIKE FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE MM-HMM.

WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT.

WE MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD.

I, I JUST, YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT WE WEREN'T DOING A, WE WEREN'T GONNA BE LOOKING AT A HUNDRED PERCENT RESIDENTIAL AS A POTENTIAL OF A DEVELOPER COMING IN AND REQUESTING THAT.

AND NO COMMERCIAL AT ALL.

SO THIS WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT.

OKAY, GOOD.

THEN I'M, THEN I'M GOOD.

THANKS COMMISSIONER MOSS.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, I JUST, I I WAS JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON THE RESIDENTIAL.

SO YOU'RE SAYING IT, IT COULD BE LIKE, UH, TWO STORIES.

I MEAN TWO STORIES HIGH VERTICAL.

SO IF, UM, SOMEONE WAS DEVELOPING IN THE URBAN MIXED USE CATEGORY MM-HMM.

, THEY'D BE PICKING A, A ZONING DISTRICT, UM, THAT COMPLIES WITH VERTICAL MIXED USE.

SO IT'D PROBABLY BE A POD.

AND TYPICALLY WE'D SEE TWO TO THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT ON A BUILDING.

AND THIS AREA WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY, PRETTY SMALL.

UM, SO THIS IS, THIS IS ONE PORTION OF IT, UM, RIGHT HERE THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING AWAY.

UM, BUT IT'S A LONG, UH, WEST DRIVE, SO IT'S A PRETTY SMALL POCKET OF THE CITY.

SO I DON'T SEE US APPROVING HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS THERE.

'CAUSE I, YEAH, IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

SO AT MOST YOU'D SEE TWO OR THREE STORIES.

THINK OF THE DOMAIN WHERE YOU HAVE A WHOLE LOWER LEVEL OF COMMERCIAL.

AND YOU'VE GOT LIKE APARTMENTS THAT ARE 1, 2, 3 STORIES ABOVE IT THAT TALL BUT NOT THAT TALL.

BUT HOW MANY APARTMENTS THAT YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE IN THAT AREA? LIKE 40, 50, A HUNDRED? YOU KNOW, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY.

I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE PRETTY SMALL JUST BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SMALL ACREAGE THAT HAS THAT LAND USE CATEGORY.

YEAH, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

SO, BECAUSE THE 0% RESIDENTIAL FOR FIRST STORY BUILDING FOOTPRINTS IS A LITTLE BIT BROADER THAN JUST URBAN MIXED USE.

'CAUSE WE'RE DOING IT, UH, EMPLOYMENT CENTER AND ACTIVITY CENTER AS WELL.

UM, ARE WE SPECIFYING WHAT HAS TO BE ON THE FIRST FLOOR BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY MUST BE COMMERCIAL, ET CETERA? BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN IS SOMEONE WANT TO GO, OH, WELL I DON'T HAVE ANY RESIDENTIAL ON THE FIRST FLOOR, BUT I HAVE A GYM AND I HAVE THE OFFICE AND I HAVE ALL THESE OTHER THINGS OUT THERE.

SO I'M KIND OF FOLLOWING THE RULES, BUT I'M SKIRTING THE INTENT OF THE RULES AS WELL.

DO WE HAVE ANY CLARIFYING LANGUAGE THAT WOULD, UM, HELP PREVENT THAT? THAT'S IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE WITH VERTICAL MIXED USE BUILDINGS THAT THOSE, UM, FACILITIES LIKE THE LAUNDRY ROOM AND THEIR ATHLETICS DOESN'T COUNT TOWARDS THE COMMERCIAL PORTION.

SO IT HAS TO BE OPEN TO THE, THE PUBLIC.

BUT THOSE ARE CALLED OUT IN THE ZONING.

I'M GOOD.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MOSS.

AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL SECOND.

MOTION BY VICE CHAIR.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? UNANIMOUS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.