[1. Call to Order.]
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TIME IS NOW SIX O'CLOCK AND THE MEETING OF THE LEANDER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL NOW COME TO ORDER.
[2. Roll Call.]
LET THE RECORDS SHOW THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONER MAHAN.[3. Director's report to the Planning & Zoning Commission on action taken by City Council during the February 1, 2024 meeting.]
THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.I'M REPORTING ON ITEMS THAT WERE, EXCUSE ME, REVIEWED BY THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE FEBRUARY 1ST MEETING, UM, THAT WERE FORWARDED TO THEM BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, THE FIRST ITEM IS THE ENCLAVE AT CRYSTAL FALLS CONCEPT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLAT.
UM, THEY DID APPROVE THAT ITEM.
UM, THEY ALSO APPROVED THE EXTENSION OF THE GREEN LIGHT VILLAGE PRELIMINARY PLAT.
UM, WE'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT PHASE FOUR WATER CONSERVATION.
UM, I'VE HANDED OUT A HANDOUT, UH, FROM THE CITY ABOUT WHAT TO EXPECT AND WHEN WE'RE HAVING THE, THE SHUTDOWN, UM, IT WILL HAVE IMPACTS ON, UM, DEVELOPMENT, IRRIGATION POOLS.
UM, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE KEEP Y'ALL IN THE LOOP WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING.
BUT WE'RE GONNA START THE PHASE FOUR CONSERVATION ON FEBRUARY 12TH, AND THEY'RE ANTICIPATING TO START THE WORK FEBRUARY 28TH.
SO WE KIND OF HAVE SOME PRACTICE TIME FOR EVERYBODY TO GET USED TO SAVING WATER.
UM, AND THAT'S IT FOR MY REPORT.
[4. Review of meeting protocol.]
ITEM FOUR IS A REVIEW OF THE MEETING PROTOCOLS ON THE WALL TO MY LEFT IS, UH, HOW WE CONDUCT OUR MEETINGS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO READ THROUGH THAT.[5. Public comments on items not listed in the agenda.
Public comments on items listed in the agenda will be heard at the time each item is discussed.
[All comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual.]]
THIS IS FOR CO UH, PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO COMMENT ON AN ITEM? NOT ON THE AGENDA.
SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
THIS IS ITEM SIX AND SEVEN CAN BE PASSED BY A SINGLE MOTION.MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COSGROVE, SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR.
[8. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-23-0095 to amend the current zoning of TOD/PUD-CD (Transit Oriented Development/ Planning Unit Development – Conventional Development Sector) to adopt the Spillars Project Minor PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning district of GC-2-A (General Commercial) on one (1) parcel of land approximately 1.574 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R086306; and located to the east of the intersection of Tulum Terrace and US 183, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING FOR ZONING CASE C DASH 23 DASH 0 0 9 5.
TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF TOD PUD CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO ADOPT THE SPILLERS PROJECT MINOR PUD WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF GC TWO A ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND ACREAGE AND, UH, NUMBER SHOWN ON THE AGENDA.
THIS IS LOCATED TO THE EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF TULUM TERRACE AND US 180 3 STAFF PRESENTATION C COMMISSIONERS JASON FOE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF GC TWO, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A ONE STORY RETAIL PROJECT.
UH, FOR THE SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS, THE CITY OF PRO CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AN AMENDMENT TO THE TOD ON MARCH 5TH TO ALLOW PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE OPTION TO REMOVE THEIR PROPERTY FROM THE SMART CODE TO DEVELOP A, TO DEVELOP UNDER THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A BASE ZONING IS THE FIRST STEP OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FOR PROPERTY ZONED CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
ACTUALLY, SORRY, WE GO FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF TULUM TERRACE AND SOUTH OF HERITAGE ROAD ROAD.
UH, TO THE WEST OF THE SITE IS A VACANT, IS VACANT LAND AND THE ENCLAVE AT MAYA VISTA SUBDIVISION.
AND A CEMENT PLANT, UH, TO THE EAST OF THE SITE IS A VACANT LAND AND ANOTHER CONCRETE SUPPLIER AND TOWARDS THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE SITE ARE, IS ALSO VACANT LAND, UH, SHOWN WITH THE AERIAL HERE, UH, FOR THE PHYSICAL AND NATURAL FEATURES.
THIS PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN ANY FLOODPLAINS.
UH, THE EXISTING TREES ON SITE WILL BE REVIEWED DURING DEVELOPMENT AND ARE SUBJECT TO MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS.
UM, I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT CURRENTLY, UH, PLANNING STAFF AND CODE ENFORCEMENT ARE WORKING TOGETHER ACTIVELY FOR, REGARDING THE WORK ON THE SITE WHERE THEY DID REMOVE A BUNCH OF TREES WITHOUT, UM, OR REMOVE TREES WITHOUT A PERMIT.
UH, I CAN'T COMMENT FURTHER ON HOW MANY TREES THEY DID 'CAUSE THE INSPECTION WAS DONE THIS MORNING.
BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO COMMENT FOR THAT.
UH, AS FOR THE MAJOR CORRIDORS, UH, THIS PROPERTY DOES HAVE ACCESS TO 180 3 AND IS PART OF THE FUTURE EXPANSION OF 180 3 TO BUILD IT OUT TO 126, RIGHT OF WAY SIX LANES AND 10 FOOT SIDEWALK.
UM, JUST WANTED TO MOVE ON TO THE DEVELOP MEETING.
A DEVELOP MEETING WAS HELD, UH, WITH STAFF ON AUGUST UH, SEVENTH, 2023.
NO CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE PROJECT SINCE THE DEVELOPED MEETING WAS HELD AND NO ORDINANCE CHANGES OCCURRED, UH, FOLLOWING THE DEVELOPED MEETING, WHICH HAVE
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MAY IMPACTED THIS PROJECT, UH, FOR PUBLIC NOTIFICATION.IN ADDITION TO THE NOTICE MAILED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, THE AGENT DID REACH OUT, UH, TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY OR ANY PROPERTY ZONE AS SINGLE FAMILY WITHIN 500 FEET.
PER ARTICLE 10, SECTION 3D OF THE KWANZA ZONING ORDINANCE, THE AGENT CONDUCTED OUTREACH BY MAILING ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITH THE LETTERS STATING THEIR INTENT AND THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION.
UH, THE AGENT RECEIVED NO RESPONSES FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND, UM, NO MEETING WAS HELD AND NO HOME HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, UH, LOCATED WITHIN 50 FEET, 500 FEET.
UH, WERE ABLE TO BE CONTACTED.
UH, PLEASE REFER TO THE FULL REPORT AS THE APPLICANT ATTACHED.
UH, AS FOR THE PROOF OF CRITERIA, THE ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT, UH, WITH OUR FUTURE AND LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FOR MULTI-USE CORRIDOR PRIORITY CORRIDOR.
AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING, UH, LAND.
USES THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT INTENDS TO ESTABLISH A BASE ZONING OF GC TWO A, UH, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, AND REDUCES THE FRONT PAVING SETBACK TO 10 FEET.
I AM AVAILABLE AFTERWARDS FOR FURTHER QUESTIONS.
IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? VERY SHORT.
I'M, UH, REPRESENTING SKB ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN.
I'M AN ARCHITECT HERE IN THE AREA.
AND, UM, JUST REMINDING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO AS FAR AS THE CITY IS CONCERNED, WHAT'S IN THE FUTURE LAND USE AND THE TYPE OF ZONING AND EVERYTHING WAS WHAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, BASICALLY REQUESTED BECAUSE WE SORT OF HAD TO DO IT 'CAUSE IT WAS ESSENTIALLY NOT ZONED.
UM, WE'VE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS THAT I'M AWARE OF.
OUR OFFICE RECEIVED, NO COMMENTS FROM NEIGHBORS OR ANYBODY.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BRING, I'M JUST GONNA, THE OWNER IS HERE, JOHN SPILLERS, AND HE DID, UH, HE BROUGHT UP THE PERMIT THING AND IT, IT, THEY, THEY DID GET A PERMIT, APPARENTLY.
IT JUST APPARENTLY WASN'T THE RIGHT KIND BECAUSE THE, THE PERSON THAT, UM, HE HIRED TO DO IT WENT AND GOT A PERMIT.
BUT IT WAS APPARENTLY SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT KIND.
SO IT WASN'T LIKE THEY DID, DIDN'T EVEN TRY.
SO IF YOU NEED ANY MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, HE COULD SPEAK TO IT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS OF PEOPLE WISHING TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? CAN I ASK A QUESTION? UH, COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
IF YOU WOULD FILL OUT A CARD FOR US AFTER YOU SPEAK, WE'D APPRECIATE IT.
FRANK STYLES 41 80 HIGHWAY 180 3, LEANDER, TEXAS.
MY QUESTION IS EXACTLY WHERE, IS THIS IN RELATION TO EVERYTHING ELSE? I DID GET NOTIFICATION, BUT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO PLACE THIS.
AND ALSO THE QUESTION I ALSO HAVE IS HOW DEEP IS THIS PROPERTY? WELL, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T TWO-WAY HERE FROM THE DI DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE'LL GET THOSE ANSWERED DURING THE DISCUSSION FOR YOU.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTER DISCUSSION AND I'LL GO FIRST AND ASK ROBIN, UM, TO CLARIFY FOR HIM WHERE THAT IS.
SO DOES JASON, DO YOU WANNA TRY TO SHOW HIM THE LOCATION AND I CAN LOOK UP THE, UM, DIMENSIONS.
SO I'M TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THIS PORTION, RIGHT? SO IT'S A ADJACENT TO A, UM, CONCRETE PLANT.
SO IT'S RIGHT HERE THAT SHARE A PROPERTY LINE.
AND THERE'S A, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN HERITAGE GROVE IS TO THE NORTH OF IT? YES, THAT'S, THAT, THAT WOULD BE, I BELIEVE NORTHPORT NORTH FORK'S, UM, UH, GC POD.
AND THEN I BELIEVE ABOVE IS IS NORTH FORK'S, UH, HEAVY COMMERCIAL POD.
SO THE, THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 107 FEET.
AND, UM, THAT'S NOT A SURVEY THAT'S ME MEASURING ON A GIS MAP.
UM, AND THEN PROBABLY ABOUT MIDWAY ON THE PROPERTY, IT'S ABOUT GETTING ABOUT 120 FEET AT THE LARGEST PARK.
UM, AND SINCE I, I LET MYSELF GO FIRST TIME
DID DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE TREES BEING TAKEN OUT WITHOUT A TREE REMOVAL? 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THERE ARE.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO ESTIMATE FROM THE AERIAL PHOTO BY BLOWING UP THE AERIAL APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY TREES WERE TAKEN OUT? I KNOW WE WON'T KNOW WHAT THE DIAMETERS WERE.
IF THEY'RE HERE, WHAT DO WE DO IN THIS SITUATION? SO THIS IS SOMETHING, UM, WHERE STAFF DOES A, A SITE VISIT AND WE LOOK AT, UM, THE TRUNKS THAT REMAIN AND UM, WE WILL REVIEW IT THAT WAY.
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ARE THERE ANY THAT REMAIN? THERE WAS, THERE WERE SOME.SO YOU'LL, YOU'LL ESTIMATE SOMETHING AND, AND WORK THAT OUT? YES.
AND WE CAN SEND Y'ALL AN UPDATE AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE THEY CLEARED AREAS WHERE TREES WOULD BE REMOVED ANYWAY WHEN THEY DEVELOP.
COMMISSIONER COSGROVE? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, THE, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS WHY ARE WE ASKING TO PUDGE GC, WHAT N GC DO YOU NEED FOR THAT SITE THAT ELSIE WOULD NOT ACCOMMODATE? UH, WELL I THINK I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER OFF THE TOP OF, BUT IT'S, IT'S MEANT TO BE A RETAIL CENTER.
SO, SO AGAIN, SO AGAIN, WHAT, WHAT IN RETAIL, THERE'S A BUNCH IN RETAIL THAT YOU CAN, THAT YOU, THAT IS ALLOWABLE IN, IN LOCAL COMMERCIAL.
I THINK WE JUST WANTED TO HAVE THE OPTION FOR WHATEVER, BUT INTENT AS A RETAIL CENTER AND TO, TO, OBVIOUSLY MORE OPTIONS ARE BETTER AND WELL, NO, I, I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE YOU, YOU'RE ALREADY ASKING FOR ANY RESTRICTIONS, WHICH MEANS YOU CAN PUT A NIGHTCLUB IN THERE, YOU CAN PUT A LIQUOR STORE IN THERE.
YOU CAN PUT A LOT, ALL IF I GIVE YOU, ONCE WE'RE DONE HERE, IF I SAY YES, YOU CAN HAVE THAT RIGHT.
UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO TO STOP THAT.
SO THAT I I, THAT'S PROBLEMATIC TO ME.
SO, UM, UH, ESPECIALLY BEING AS, AS I UNDERSTAND CONCRETE PLANT, CONCRETE PLANT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY BY DOCUS STYLES IS, IS IS A SUBDIVISION.
SO MAYBE THERE COULD BE A COUPLE OF THINGS
SO YEAH, I, I I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO COME TO SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE TO, TO GET ME ON BOARD ON THIS.
COMMISSIONER, MAY I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER COSGROVE? I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME RESTRICTIONS AS TO SOME OF THE GC THREE, UM, USES.
UM, NOT NECESSARILY HAVING TO GO BACK TO A LOCAL COMMERCIAL, BUT, OKAY.
COMMISSIONER MO, I AGREE WITH THE REST OF, UM, OUR COMMISSIONERS.
AND, UH, I ALSO WANTED TO KNOW, UH, UH, THE TREES THAT YOU'RE TAKING OUT ARE, YOU'RE REPLACING SOME, THERE'S GONNA BE RULES ON WHAT WE CAN DO WITH TREES AND I DON'T BELIEVE THEY TOOK OUT ANY TREES THAT WERE, I DON'T, I MEAN, IT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAR.
THEY DIDN'T TAKE OUT LIKE OAK TREES.
SO THE SITUATION WITH THE TREES WAS, UM, WE HAD A TREE SURVEY DONE AND WE HAD ALL OF THE TREES, ALL THE OAKS, ANYTHING THAT WAS IMPORTANT, THEY WERE ALL TAGGED AND, UH, LABELED.
WHAT WE HAD MOVED WERE, UM, CEDARS HACKBERRIES.
THERE WAS A LOT OF TRASH IN THERE.
WE BASICALLY JUST CLEANED OUT THE CEDARS, CLEANED OUT THE HACKBERRIES, ALL THE OAKS, ANYTHING THAT WAS BIG, ALL THAT STAYED.
UH, MOST OF THAT KIND OF CAME AROUND THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, IF YOU DO ZOOM THIS IN, YOU'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SEE THE MAJORITY OF THE TREES WERE ON KIND OF THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
WE LEFT ANYTHING THAT HAD, YOU KNOW, BIG, PRETTY ANYTHING OAK.
THERE WAS EVEN A COUPLE BIG HACK BERRIES THAT WERE LEFT.
SO THE ONLY THING THAT WE TOOK WERE, UM, CEDARS AND SOME OF THE SMALL TRASH THAT HAD FALLEN SMALL TREES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THE COMPANY THAT I HIRED TO DO IT HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR IN LEANDER FOR LIKE 40 YEARS.
AND HE GOT THE PERMIT FOR ITS CURRENT ZONING.
WE DIDN'T KNOW EITHER THAT WE NEEDED BECAUSE IT'S, WE'RE TRYING TO GET A COMMERCIAL THAT WE NEEDED A COMMERCIAL PERMIT TO DO THAT.
'CAUSE IT WASN'T ZONED COMMERCIAL YET.
SO HE JUST TALKED TO A PERSON AT THE CITY, THEY SAID, GO AHEAD.
AND THAT'S WHY HE MOVED FORWARD.
SO I GUESS THERE WAS SOME MISUNDERSTANDING IN THAT.
JASON REACHED OUT TO US YESTERDAY AND WE WERE LIKE, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.
WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I CALLED THE, THE COMPANY THAT HAD DONE IT, THEY SAID, WE GOT A GREEN LIGHT ON LIKE LAST WEEK.
SO THAT'S WHY THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ON THAT.
AND SO WE WERE KIND OF SURPRISED, LIKE, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.
WE, WE DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS GONNA BE A PROBLEM.
SO, SO ARE Y'ALL GONNA REPLACE SOME OF THE TREES THOUGH, THAT YOU TAKE IT THE WAY
SO THE PLAN WAS, AND UM, THE REASON THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT KIND OF OPENING IT UP WAS ORIGINALLY WE WERE LOOKING AT RETAIL.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT, UH, KIND OF SOME FLEX OFFICE, FLEX RETAIL, FLEX WAREHOUSE KIND OF SPACE, KIND OF DEPENDING ON SMALL BUSINESSES NEEDING SOME OF THAT SPACE.
SO WE WERE JUST TRYING TO CREATE, UH, I GUESS MORE OF A RETAIL FRONT THERE AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF WENT THAT ZONING AS WE TALKED ABOUT.
UM, BUT YEAH, THE IDEA WAS, IS IN THE CENTER, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD ADD ALL THE LANDSCAPING BACK AND EVERYTHING ELSE, OF COURSE.
SO I KNOW WE'D HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, KIND OF COME OUT AND THEN ADD ALL THE LANDSCAPING AROUND IT AS WE HAD, WE'D DO ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD'VE TO DO IF IT WAS A NEW SITE PLANT MM-HMM.
WHATEVER TREES THAT WERE MM-HMM.
AND OF COURSE, WITH IT BEING RETAIL, OBVIOUSLY WE WANTED TO MAKE IT LOOK BEAUTIFUL.
SO PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEIR BUSINESS THERE AND BE ABLE TO VISIT IT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AREA KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN UP TOWARDS THE TOP, YOU KNOW, ENTRANCE IN AN EXIT.
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EGRESS AND EGRESS.SO WE COULD HAVE GOOD, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND GET IN THE SITE AND THEN BE ABLE TO GET BACK OUT INTO 1 8 3.
I'M NOT GONNA BEAT YOU UP ON THE TREES.
I'VE ALREADY KIND OF TAKEN THAT ROLE FOR ME, SO, UM, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION.
IT, IT HAPPENED RECENTLY TO NEAR MY COMMUNITY.
I KNOW THE CITY IS TAKING GOOD CARE OF, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY MANAGE THAT WITH FINES OR WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO TO MAKE THAT RIGHT.
BUT MY, I THINK MY, MY, MY BIGGER CONCERN HERE AS FAR AS THE ZONING GOES, THE GC THE GC TWO A, I'M, I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT PIECE OF IT, BUT BEING THAT YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO A, A READY MIX PLANT, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE WHAT WOULD WANT TO GO IN THERE, HOW'S THAT GONNA FLOW WITH, WITH THE GC DESIGNATION FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT? I MEAN, I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY REALLY WANTING TO DO BUSINESS RIGHT NEXT TO A CONCRETE PLANT.
UM, DO, IS THERE, I MEAN, IS THIS, I'M ASSUMING THIS CONCRETE PLANT IS THERE TO STAY AT LEAST LONG TERM, IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE RAIL.
I MEAN, WOULD IT MAKE BETTER SENSE TO HAVE ALL OF THAT ZONED, LIKE INDUSTRIAL OR HEAVY COMMERCIAL INSTEAD, OR, I JUST DON'T SEE THOSE PLAYING REALLY WELL TOGETHER.
THOSE TWO DEVELOPMENTS PLAYING WELL TOGETHER.
SO IN OUR, OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP, IT'S NOT CALLED FOR AN INDU AS A CON INDUSTRIAL AREA.
UM, I THINK EVENTUALLY THE CONCRETE PLANT PROBABLY WILL MOVE, LIKE WHEN DEVELOPMENT CHANGES IN LEANDER.
LIKE WHEN WE HAVE LESS RESIDENTIAL, IT'S JUST NOT ANTICIPATED AS THE FUTURE LAND THERE.
BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT LIKE SOME OFFICE SPACE WAREHOUSE TYPE STUFF, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BEFORE? YEAH.
I MEAN, HE'S THE OWNER, THE OWNER, HE'S GONNA DEVELOP IT AND THAT'S, HE WANTS TO DO IT.
ORIGINALLY WE DID LOOK AT HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND WE HAD THAT DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH THE CITY.
THAT'S WHEN WE WERE EXPLAINING THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE, THAT WAS NOT WHAT WAS PLANNED FOR THAT AREA.
SO WE WERE THINKING MORE IN THAT ROUND TO MATCH THE TWO, UH, YOU KNOW, CEMENT PLANTS THAT WERE RIGHT NEXT TO US.
THEY SAID, NOPE, WE DON'T WANT THAT MIXED USE CORRIDOR ON 180 3.
SO WE WERE LIKE, OKAY, LET'S COME UP WITH A NEW CONCEPT.
AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT.
BECAUSE ORIGINALLY WITH TWO CEMENT PLANTS, WE THOUGHT THE SAME THING, LET'S MAKE THAT ALL THE SAME.
BUT APPARENTLY THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
WELL THAT, THAT, THAT MAKES MORE SENSE.
I MEAN, ONCE, ONCE AGAIN, I MEAN, THE GC TWO A IS DESIGNED TO FLOW AND WORK A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH RESIDENTIAL, WHICH YOU'VE GOT ACROSS THE STREET.
SO I MEAN, I, I, I DON'T THINK I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE ON THAT, SO, BUT THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER KALA, UH, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER OLIVER.
UM, LOOKING AT THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT COULD GO INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT, I WOULD SEE IT, IT COULD BE ATTRACTIVE TO A LOT OF THE, THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL TYPE BUSINESSES, UH, GIVEN THE WAY THAT WOULD SERVICE THE RESIDENTIAL ACROSS THE STREET IF IT WERE A NIGHTCLUB OR A LIQUOR STORE, THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME.
AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM ACROSS THAT HIGHWAY THERE, UH, AS SORT OF A BUFFER AND BEHIND IT, A CONCRETE PLANT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M STILL NEW TO THIS COMMISSION, SO I DON'T KNOW.
I, I, IF I HAVE A QUESTION, IT'S KIND OF FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO SORT OF ELABORATE ON SOME OF THE, THE REASONS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE OBJECTION TO SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT COULD GO INTO THE GC ZONING.
COMMISSIONER COSGROVE, YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT? UH, I'M NOT SURE I WANNA GET INTO A, INTO A DISCUSSION ACROSS THE DIOCESE ABOUT IT OTHER THAN, THAN THE FACT THAT IT IS WITHIN, UM, A HUNDRED FEET OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, WHETHER IT'S ACROSS THE MAJOR HIGHWAY OR NOT, IS IRRELEVANT.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH, WITH, WITH GC, WITH RESTRICTION.
I HAVE ZERO PROBLEM WITH GC WITH, I I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH, WITH, WITH WAREHOUSING THERE.
I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THAT.
I HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE IDEA OF ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY, AT THE VERY LEAST, THERE BEING ACCESS TO, UM, HOMES FROM, FROM NIGHTCLUBS, HOMES FROM, LOOK, I, I'M NOT APPROVED.
I JUST DON'T THINK WITHIN 50 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE, IT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE.
WELL, WELL, I MEAN, I, I'LL I'LL SAY LIKE IN, IN MY COMMUNITY, THERE'S, THERE WAS ZONING THAT WAS IN PLACE BEFORE THAT COMMUNITY WAS EVEN DEVELOPED.
SO THE G GC TWO A WAS ALREADY THERE IN PLACE, BUT THERE WERE RESTRICTIONS.
SO ARE THERE CERTAIN, I GUESS IF WE WANT TO MOVE THIS THROUGH, ARE THERE CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS AS FAR AS BUSINESSES YOU'D WANT TO SAY? OH, ABSOLUTELY.
THIS IS A, A PUD, SO, ABSOLUTELY.
IF YOU, IF, IF, IF THE PUD RESTRICTS THE USE OF, OF NO BAR, NO, NO NIGHTCLUB, NO LIQUOR STORE I'M IN.
I MEAN, I WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE THAT MOTION OR SECOND THAT MOTION IF THAT'S, I PROPOSE IF THOSE THINGS ARE, ARE ARE THINGS YOU THINK YOU WANNA PUT THERE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA TO VOTE.
WHAT I WAS THINKING WAS THAT OBVIOUSLY IF WE WERE GOING TO DO RETAIL, I WOULD HATE TO REDUCE THE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR BUSINESS.
I DON'T WANT A NIGHTCLUB THERE EITHER.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD HATE TO RESTRICT THE POSSIBILITY OF BUSINESSES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A TENANT IN THE PROPERTY.
WELL, I THINK THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT SHOULD BE, AND THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT SHOULDN'T BE.
AND IF WE'RE GONNA DO A PUD, WE, WE, WE CAN SAY, HERE'S WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE HERE AND HERE'S WHAT'S
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NOT.LIKE I SAID, IF I GIVE YOU WHAT YOU ASKED FOR, YOU MAY NOT EVER LEASE TO A TENANT WHO IS IN NIGHTCLUB SOMEDAY.
YOU MAY SELL IT AND THEN YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT IF THEY SO CHOOSE.
SO, SO WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT TODAY, IF WE'RE DOING A P IT'S TODAY.
RIGHT? THE PUT DOCUMENT BECOMES THE ZONING.
ABSOLUTELY KNOW HOW ALL THAT WORKS.
BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE IF I'M GONNA PUT A NIGHTCLUB SOMEWHERE NEXT TO A CONCRETE PLANT, IT WON'T BOTHER ANYBODY.
THAT SEEMS LIKE ACTUALLY A GOOD IDEA.
BUT, BUT THE SOUTH PART OF THAT PROPERTY IS A HUNDRED FEET IS IS A HUNDRED FOOT FROM, FROM, FROM SOMEBODY WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR FAMILY.
RIGHT? SO IF, IF THERE WAS NO SUBDIVISION THERE, YOUR ARGUMENT HOLDS UP TO ME.
AND, AND, AND IN, IN GENERAL, I, I WOULDN'T MIND ANY OF IT.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE, UM, IN MY OPINION, WE, WE MAY HAVE STUCK SOME THINGS IN WILLY-NILLY IN TERMS OF OF, OF WHERE WE ALLOW THINGS TO DEVELOP.
UM, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE WITH, WITH, WITH WHAT THE SITE LOOKS LIKE.
AND AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, WITH WHAT'S AROUND IT, I, I, I GUESS HEAVY COMMERCIAL WOULD IS COMPLETELY OFF THE TABLE IF, IF YOU'RE REQUESTING HEAVY COMMERCIAL, WE HAVE TO START THE ZONING CASE.
IT'S BECAUSE WE, WE CAN GO LOWER, WE JUST CAN'T GO HIGHER.
I, I'M WILLING TO, TO APPROVE GC WITH THE PROHIBITIONS OF, OF A FEW SPECIFIC TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
SO, AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY BAR NIGHTCLUB? YEAH.
I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE, I DON'T THINK THAT THOSE WORK FOR ME, ESPECIALLY ON THE SOUTH END OF THE YEAH.
I MEAN, I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY BAR, NIGHTCLUB AND PROBABLY LIKE A VAPE OR SMOKE SHOP.
THOSE WOULD BE THE MAIN THREE THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE AGAINST IN THAT AREA.
OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK YOU'VE GOT A FULL RANGE OF OPPORTUNITY, WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH I THINK, IN, IN, IN, I THINK IN THIS COMMISSION'S OPINION TO DEVELOP THAT AND BRING SOME GOOD TENANTS IN.
IF YOU NEED, UM, ADDITIONAL TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT, THERE'S ANOTHER P AND Z MEETING BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL.
SO IF YOU NEED TO TALK TO NO, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE PRETTY CERTAIN ON THAT.
AND I MEAN, OF COURSE I WOULD BE FINE WITH IT.
I JUST, OBVIOUSLY I WANNA MAXIMIZE MY ABILITY TO, TO GET TENANTS IN THAT RETAIL SPACE.
BUT IF, YOU KNOW, NO BARS, NO NIGHTCLUBS, I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS ARE GOOD WITH THAT, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
I'M GOOD WITH THAT BECAUSE I MEAN, I'M, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE THE TENANT I'M GOING FOR OF COURSE.
WHO KNOWS? UH, BUT THAT'S NOT MY INTENTION.
I WANT THIS TO BE A REALLY PRETTY, UH, GOOD LOOKING CENTER ON 180 3 FOR THAT AREA.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK NOT AT TODAY WITH THE DEVELOPER TODAY.
WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT WHAT'S GONNA BE, RIGHT.
SO I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE, THE SMALLER UPSCALE, UH, TYPE COCKTAIL BARS AND LITTLE RESTAURANTS AND CAFES AND THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT POPPING UP IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES.
AND, UM, GIVEN THE, UH, RELATIVELY SMALL SIZE PROBABLY OF THE UNITS IN SOME DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS, I JUST, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
AND I, I, I PERSONALLY AS A COMMISSIONER ON THIS COMMISSION, DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE BAT OUTTA THE, THE HANDS OF, OF THE APPLICANT.
AND, UH, I'M FINE WITH THE, THE GENERAL, BUT, UM, I'M PROBABLY OUTVOTED WELL, I MEAN, TO THAT POINT, I MEAN, YOU DO HAVE THE RABBIT HOLE DOWN 180 3 THAT'S LITERALLY LIKE RIGHT OFF OF WHITE WING BEHIND, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS, BUT IT'S LITERALLY, IT'S PROBABLY, IT'S LITERALLY A SHOPPING CENTER THAT'S THAT'S HOUSES BACK UP TO, SO I MEAN, THAT, THAT, BUT TO HIS POINT, I MEAN, THAT'S A NICE ESTABLISHMENT.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, BUT THESE THINGS CAN ALWAYS GO SOUTH.
SO, I MEAN, ONCE AGAIN, I, I'M, I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF, OF, OF EITHER, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER COSGROVE OR MYSELF MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE OF THE STIPULATION THAT WE, YOU KNOW, DON'T ALLOW NIGHTCLUBS OR BARS OF SORT, OR LIKE A SMOKE SHOP.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA EXCLUDE LIQUOR STORE OR NOT.
I, I MEAN, I'M, I'M INDIFFERENT ON THAT ONE.
UM, AND, AND I THINK TO COMMISSIONER CAL'S POINT, IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THEM FROM HAVING NICE LITTLE CAFES OR NICE LITTLE, LITTLE PLACES TO HAVE A, A SELL ALCOHOL SIT DOWN.
THEY CAN STILL SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, SELL ALCOHOL.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS, IS BARS AND NIGHTCLUBS, VERY DIFFERENT STORY.
NO DISCO BALL AND NEED TO BE ALCOHOL SALES AT 51% RIGHT.
WHICH I THINK I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT FINE WITH.
SO ARE YOU READY TO MAKE IT A FORMAL MOTION? YEAH, I'LL, I'LL MAKE A FORMAL MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE STIPULATION THAT, UH, THE GC TWO, A COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION DOES RESTRICT, UH, NIGHTCLUBS AND BARS AND, UH, SMOKE SHOPS.
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CHAIR AND SECONDED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER COSGROVE.I BELIEVE WE'RE KEEPING LIQUOR STORES.
I CAN YOU WANT OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? OKAY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO STATE YOUR REASON FOR YOUR OPPOSITION? WE USUALLY ALLOW SOMEONE TO STATE IT FOR THE RECORD.
OH, I, I MEAN, I THINK I'VE COVERED IT IN MY PRIOR COMMENTS.
I THINK THE, I I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THE, THE USES FOR THE GC IN, IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
AND I JUST, I WOULDN'T FORESEE A PROBLEM WITH THE THINGS THAT WE'RE EXCLUDING.
[9. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-23-0099 to amend the current zoning of Hill Country Bible PUD (Planning Unit Development) with the base zoning district of SFS-3-A (Single-Family Rural) to change the base zoning district to LC-2-A (Local Commercial) on two (2) parcels of land approximately 19 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R647584 and R647585; and more commonly known as 589 W San Gabriel Pkwy, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Applicant/Agent: Southwest Land Services, Inc (David Singleton) on behalf of Hill Country Bible Church (William Conor O’Hearn).
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THIS IS LOCATED AT 5 8 9 WEST SAN GABRIEL.
STAFF PRESENTATION, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION, KARINA CASTILLO.
UM, THIS IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z 23 0 9.
IT IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO CHANGE THE BASE ZONING FROM SFR THREE A TO LC TWO A FROM SINGLE FAMILY RULE TO LOCAL COMMERCIAL.
THE HILL COUNTRY BIBLE P WAS APPROVED WITH THE BAY ZONING.
F-S-F-S-F-R, THERE'S A TYPO, UM, THREE A WITH THE INTENTION OF DEVELOPING A CHURCH AND ITS RELATED USES.
SO LOT ONE HAS ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED WITH THE CHURCH.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND SHOW THE AERIAL.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED WITH THE CHURCH AND LOT TWO DOES REMAIN VACANT AT THIS TIME.
THEY'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THE ZONING SO THAT THEY CAN ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY ON THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED ON THIS VACANT LOT.
UM, IT IS LOCATED NORTH OF SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY AND THE OAK CREEK SUBDIVISION RESERVE AT NORTH FORK IS LOCATED TO THE NORTH AND ENCLAVE AT MAYA VISTA IS LOCATED TO THE EAST OF THE SITE.
AND AGAIN, IT IS ALREADY DEVELOPED, SO IT'S ALREADY UP TO STANDARDS ON EVERYTHING.
THE PROPOSAL TO THE ZONE CHANGE DOES TO THE BAY ZONING DOES ALIGN WITH THE CITY OF LEAN UNDER, UNDER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE INTENT STATEMENTS OF THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE.
STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE MAJOR AMENDMENT OF THE HILL COUNTRY BIBLE PUD.
THE PUD IS INCLUDING ALLOWING A CHURCH CAMPUS IN ADDITION TO ALL THE USES PERMITTED IN THE LC COMPONENT.
I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, ROBIN DAVID SINGLETON FOR THE APPLICANT.
WE GO FROM TALKING ABOUT BARS TO A CHURCH
UM, AND UM, AS YOU STATED, THE THE CHURCH SITE IS FULLY DEVELOPED.
THERE'S A THREE ACRE PARCEL AT THE FAR WEST END, AND I DON'T THINK I'M GIVING AWAY ANY SECRETS IF I TELL YOU THEY'RE NEGOTIATING WITH A, A LITTLE PRIVATE SCHOOL THAT WANTS TO BUILD A, A, A COMPLIMENTARY USE.
THE CHURCH BEING FULLY ESTABLISHED OR THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT GOES THERE.
UM, AND THEY FELT LIKE THAT WAS A COMPATIBLE USE.
AND SO THEY'RE NEGOTIATING WITH THEM.
PART OF THAT NEGOTIATION IS THEY HAVE TO GET THE ZONING IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THE LITTLE PRIVATE.
IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN A DAYCARE.
IT'S NOT A PUBLIC SCHOOL, BUT IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A SCHOOL DESIGNED FOR THE CHURCH DOESN'T HAVE A MOTHER'S DAY OUT PROGRAM, ET CETERA.
SO IT'S REALLY INTENDED TO BE A COMPLIMENTARY USE TO THE CHURCH.
AND SO WE'VE MET WITH THEM, THEY OPERATED THEM ELSEWHERE.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS OUR FIRST RODEO, BUT, UM, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON THE THREE ACRES AT THE WEST END OF THE TRACT.
AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
SO WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THERE, UH, ARE NO AUDIENCE MEMBERS, UH, HERE.
SO WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTER DISCUSSION.
SO CURRENTLY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY AND, UM, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT HERE, THERE'S TWO PARCELS HERE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FAR WEST CORNER, WHICH I'M ASSUMING IS THAT LITTLE AWKWARD SHAPE.
THE LITTLE ON THE, ON THE VERY FAR WEST SIDE, WE BRING UP THE, UH, THE MAP HERE.
I, I MEAN IT'S LIKE WHERE THAT LOOKS ALMOST LIKE A BASEBALL DIAMOND, BUT, UH, JUST TO THE WEST OF THAT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? CORRECT.
SO WHY ARE YOU ASKING TO REZONE BOTH PARCELS AS A LOCAL COMMERCIAL? WE NOTIFIED BASED ON ALL OF THEIR OWNERSHIP, JUST SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY CONCERN THAT IT WAS DONE.
IT'S REALLY THE THREE ACRES THAT WE'RE TRYING RIGHT.
SO WE'RE TOTALLY OKAY WITH ONLY REZONING THE THREE ACRES,
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BUT BECAUSE IT WAS UNDER SINGLE OWNERSHIP AND AIRING ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION FOR THE NOTIFICATIONS, ET CETERA.SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE, THE LINES GOT BLURRED.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN THE THREE ACRES AT THE FAR WEST END WHEN THE CHURCH ZONED ORIGINALLY CHURCHES CAN GO IN ANY ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
WHICH IS WHY THEY DID THE SF ZONING UNTIL THEY FULLY DEVELOPED.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE GONNA NEED OR HAVE LEFT.
THEY BOUGHT THE ENTIRE TRACT AND THEN AS THEY DEVELOPED, THIS IS WHAT'S LEFT.
AND YEAH, SO I MEAN THAT AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE NEW WELL, IT'S NORTHWAY IS WHAT'S THERE NOW, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO, I MEAN, I KNOW THEY BUILT A BRAND NEW FACILITY, EVERYTHING, SO I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE DEMOLISHING ANYTIME SOON TO BUILD A SHOPPING CENTER.
BUT EITHER WAY, NO LCS GONNA FLOW WELL WITH THE RESIDENTIAL.
SO, UH, I MEAN, I JUST WANTED TO ASK WHY YOU WANTED TO ZONE ANYTHING LC.
YEAH, AND IT REALLY WAS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT
THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO REDEVELOP THE CHURCH.
BUT, BUT THAT WAS REALLY WHERE WE STARTED.
AND WE ALWAYS AIR, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE DRAW OUR ARCS FROM THE 500 FEET, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY CAREFUL WHERE WE DRAW THOSE.
I JUST WANNA ASK THE QUESTION, BUT THANKS.
COMMISSIONER MOSS? NO COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER MAY.
COMMISSIONER COSGROVE? I'M GOOD.
DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
NOW WE'RE ONTO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
[10. Discussion regarding the Comprehensive Plan Implementation Schedule and Old Town Master Plan Implementation, and consider action on recommendations from the Planning & Zoning Commission for the FY 2024/2025 City Budget and CIP Plan. ]
ITEM 10.DISCUSSION REGARDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE, AND OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN IMPLEMENTATION.
AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 24 25 CITY BUDGET AND THE CIP PLAN STAFF PRESENTATION.
THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN APRIL, ON APRIL 1ST, 2021.
AND IT WAS UPDATED ON MARCH 3RD, 2022.
JUNE 1ST, 2023, AND JUNE, JANUARY 4TH OF THIS YEAR.
UM, CHAPTER SIX OF THE PLAN DOES INCLUDE AN IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE THAT LISTS GOALS AND STRATEGIES WITH TIMEFRAMES.
THIS AGENDA ITEM INCLUDES THE STATUS UPDATE FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE TO SHOW PROGRESS ON THE ITEM, AND ALSO THE CHARTER DOES ALLOW FOR THE COMMISSION TO SUBMIT A LIST OF RECOMMENDATION FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE DESIRED FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO THE COMMISSION DOES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON CURRENT GOAL STATEMENTS LISTED IN THE ADOPTED PLAN.
WE DID LIST A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN SUGGEST.
UM, THEY'LL HAVE A STATUS NEXT TO THEM.
UM, THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT TO RECOMMEND, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PICK FROM THIS LIST.
SO WE'RE GONNA BREAK IT UP INTO TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS.
THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PLANNING ANALYSIS THAT WERE IN YOUR PACKET.
I'M GONNA GO THROUGH ONE AND MICHAEL WILL GO THROUGH THE OTHER.
UM, SO BACKGROUND ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IMPLEMENTATION.
THE CITY COUNCIL AGAIN ADOPTED IT IN APRIL OF 21.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS PRESENTED WITH THIS SO THAT THEY CAN SEE THE UPDATE TO THE IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE AND IDENTIFY THE PROGRESS MADE TO THE COMMISSION, TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND TO INFORM YOU OF THE UPCOMING UPDATES.
THE COMMISSION HAS THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO STAFF FOR CIPS.
UM, THERE IS A LIST OF PROJECTS.
I AM NOT GOING TO READ THEM, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO, I CAN.
UM, IT'S JUST ALL THE UPDATED GOALS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY MARKED AS COMPLETE SO FAR.
AND THIS IS JUST WHAT WAS IN THE PAST YEAR AND NOT WHATEVER WAS COMPLETED BEFORE.
UM, AND THEN WE DO HAVE A LIST OF UPDATES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST YEAR TO ORDINANCES AND PLANS.
SO IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR, THE BUILDING CODE WAS UPDATED, AND THEN IN JUNE, THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN WAS UPDATED IN SEPTEMBER.
THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN WAS COMPLETED IN NOVEMBER, THE SIGN ORDINANCE WAS AMENDED.
AND JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, WE DID HAVE AN UPDATE TO THE, UM, URBAN MIXED USE ACTIVITY CENTERS AND EMPLOYMENT CENTERS.
AND THEN ALSO IN JANUARY WE DID A SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE UPDATE AS WELL.
SO WE CAN ADDRESS SOME ISSUES ON THAT.
WE DO HAVE THE NOISE ORDINANCE COMING UP IN FEBRUARY.
SO THIS MONTH WILL BE HEARD AT THE COUNCIL.
THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT CREATION IS ALSO UPCOMING IN EITHER FEBRUARY OR MARCH.
THE WATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE SHOULD BE FINISHED IN MARCH.
PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE SHOULD BE SOMETIME IN THE SPRING, SHORT TERM RENTALS, ALSO SOMETIME IN THE SPRING.
UM, THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE, ALSO DOING SOME UPDATES AND CLEANUP IN THE SPRING.
AND THEN BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WE HOPE TO DO SOME BUILDING AND FIRE CODE UPDATES SO WE CAN ADOPT 2024 CODE.
AND THEN WE DID INCLUDE SOME RECOMMENDED ITEMS. AND THIS IS BASED ON THINGS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO WE HAVE TO INITIATE A GATEWAY AND SIGNAGE PLAN, INSTALL LANDSCAPING ENHANCEMENTS ON MAJOR HIGHWAYS, MOVE CITY HALL AND THE CIVIC CENTER FACILITIES PARTIALLY OR ENTIRELY TO ANOTHER LOCATION.
CONDUCT A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE FUTURE SAN GABRIEL RIVER
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REGIONAL TRAIL, ACQUIRE TRAIL TRAIL ACCESS CORRIDOR TO THE VALEZ CANYON LANDS PRESERVE, REPLACE AND OR UPGRADE PLAY SCAPES.ACQUIRE PROPERTY FOR THE SIGNATURE COMMUNITY PARK IN THE NORTHWEST LEANDER INSTALL TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND TURN LANES AND INITIATE A LIBRARY STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN UPDATE.
I'M GONNA HAND IT OFF TO MICHAEL
UM, SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIED OLD TOWN LEANDER AS A UNIQUE COMMUNITY ASSET, UH, THROUGH PUBLIC OUTREACH AND STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT.
THE VISION FOR OLD TOWN, UH, TO BE A DESTINATION FOR ARTS, SHOPPING, AND ENTERTAINMENT, UH, AS WELL AS HONORING LEANDER HERITAGE WERE KEY TAKEAWAYS.
UH, DUE TO ITS IMPORTANCE, UH, IMPROVING OLD TOWN WAS LISTED AS ONE OF THE 12, UH, GOALS LISTED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO, UH, AS KARINA MENTIONED IN 2020, IN 2023, UH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN.
UH, SO THIS PLAN INCLUDED A THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF OLD TOWN FOCUSING ON PARKING ASSESSMENT, UH, AND THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN TO INCLUDE PRIORITY PROJECTS.
UH, ATTACHMENT FOUR IN YOUR PACKET, UH, SHOULD INCLUDE A LIST OF THOSE PRIORITY PROJECTS ALONG WITH SOME OF THE ESTIMATED COSTS.
UH, THIS, THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO OFFER THE COMMISSION THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER INCLUDING SOME OF THOSE MASTER PLAN PRIORITY ITEMS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, PROPOSAL FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET YEAR.
UM, IN YOUR PACKET, THERE'S ALSO A LIST, UH, AS WELL OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED WITHIN, UH, OLD TOWN, UH, THROUGHOUT THE LAST YEAR, UH, TO INCLUDE, UH, THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN.
UM, JUST TO BRIEFLY GO THROUGH, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, LISTED, RECOMMENDED ITEMS. UH, NUMBER ONE, COMPLETE THE ROADWAY NETWORK ALONG THE CITY'S EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY WITHIN OLD TOWN NORTH.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ON, UH, PAGE THREE OF THE PLANNING ANALYSIS, UH, BAGHDAD STREET AND BRUSHY STREET EXTENDING NORTH, UH, FROM BROAD STREET.
UH, NUMBER TWO, EXTEND THE CITY'S SANITARY SEWER LINES THROUGH OLD TOWN NORTH.
NUMBER THREE, ESTABLISH AN OLD TOWN, UH, COMMITTEE TO FOCUS ON ORDINANCE UPDATES.
NUMBER FOUR, COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TRAIL NETWORK IN OLD TOWN NORTH.
NUMBER FIVE, INCORPORATE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE IN THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN, UH, INTO THE LEANDER TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.
NUMBER SIX, CONNECT RAILWAY EAST CHARACTER DISTRICT, UH, USING, UH, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
AND NUMBER SEVEN, UH, CREATE THE PRIMARY GATEWAY AT SOUTH STREET AND US 180 3 TO ACT AS A BRANDING AND SHOWCASE, UH, TO ENHANCE OLD TOWN'S EXISTING UNIQUE, UH, HISTORIC BRAND AS A GATEWAY FEATURE.
UM, AND SOMETHING TO NOTE, WE ARE IN THE DESIGN STAGE OF THE SOUTH STREET IMPROVEMENTS AS NOTED ON SHEET ONE.
UM, SO ITEM SIX AND SEVEN, UH, COULD BE INCORPORATED AS WELL.
UM, WE, ACCORDING TO ROBIN, WE DON'T NEED TO OFFICIALLY ACCEPT THE, THE TWO PLANS, PLAN UPDATES.
THEY'RE JUST FOR OUR INFORMATION TO HELP US DECIDE WHAT WE'D LIKE TO PUT IN THE BUDGET OR IN THE CIP.
SO, UH, WHAT YEAR WE HAVE TO SUBMIT BY.
WE'RE EARLY THIS YEAR STARTING ON IT.
I'M LIKE, I THOUGHT WE WERE EARLY.
SO WE'RE VERY EFFICIENT IN THE, IN THE PAST.
UM, WE'VE DONE IT SO CLOSE RIGHT WHEN THE BUDGET'S READY, RIGHT? IT'S BEEN REALLY HARD.
SO WE JUST STARTED TALKING ABOUT BUDGET AND SO MARCH IS A REALLY GOOD TIME FOR US TO GET AND LIST SOME GOOD PROJECTS.
SO THIS ITEM, Y'ALL CAN THINK OF THINGS AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION NEXT TIME.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE EXTRA TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT SO WE CAN MAKE SOME GOOD CHOICES.
YEAH, I LIKE, I I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE IT THIS EARLY.
I JUST LIKE, IT ALLOWS ME TO HAVE A GOOD THINK MM-HMM.
UM, SINCE IT IS AN AGENDA ITEM, ANYBODY THEY'D LIKE TO WEIGH IN AT THIS TIME, WE CAN, WE CAN DECIDE TO POSTPONE OUR FINAL DECISION ON WHAT WE RECOMMEND TILL THE NEXT MEETING.
BUT IF ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SAY OR, AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA PUT OUT THERE THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK INTO TO SEE, LIKE WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AS A MM-HMM.
WELL, THE MOST OF THIS STUFF IS GONNA GO ON ON THE CIP MM-HMM.
SO FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S USUALLY NOT AS DIFFICULT FOR US TO COME UP WITH SOME THINGS.
UM, BUT LET ME GO TO COMMISSIONER MAIN.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANNA BRING UP BEFORE WE DECIDE TO TABLE IT OR NOT TABLE IT OR, OKAY.
THERE WAS, UH, I REMEMBER DURING, I WAS, I WAS ACTUALLY ON ONE OF THE COMMITTEES FOR THE OLD, FOR ON THE OLD TOWN, UH, PLANNING COMMITTEE WHEN THEY KIND OF PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND THEY PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND ALL THAT.
SO, UM, I HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND
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THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY SOME OF THE BUSINESSES AROUND HERE ALREADY IN OLD TOWN ABOUT NATURAL GAS LINES NOT EXTENDING ACROSS 180 3.IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING FOR THIS, THIS AREA OF OLD TOWN? AND SO THAT WOULD BE PRIVATE.
IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD BE PROVIDING.
WE ACTUALLY DID A CITY PROJECT AND I THINK IT WAS JUST FINISHED TO INSTALL THE GAS LINE.
SO IT GOES ALONG, SHE DOESN'T KNOW THIS 'CAUSE SHE WASN'T HERE, SO I KIND OF CHEATED, SORRY,
BUT IT, IT WAS BROUGHT IN, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PRESENTED IT WITH LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.
WE GOT FUNDING AND THEY INSTALLED THE LINE ALONG BROAD AND THEN IT'S COMING DOWN ONE OF THE, THE ALLEYS ADJACENT TO BRUSHY.
SO IT IS, IT'S EITHER ABOUT TO HAPPEN OR IT'S JUST FINISHED.
I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA LOVE THAT.
UM, ARE YOU ABLE TO LIKE, TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS? LIKE, LIKE WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY ACQUIRE TRAIL ACCESS CORRIDOR TO BALCONES CANYONLANDS PRESERVE? THAT ONE JUST INTERESTS ME 'CAUSE I DO A LOT OUT THERE ALREADY AS IT IS, SO, SURE.
UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO CONNECT ALL OF OUR TRAILS, UM, WITH THE REGIONAL TRAILS.
SO WE NEED LAND TO CONNECT TO THEM.
UM, WE DO 'EM AS DEVELOPMENT GOES THROUGH, WE GET THE LAND AS THEY DEDICATED TO THE CITY WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE.
YOU'RE JUST LOOKING TO, TRYING TO CONNECT THE TRAILS TO THAT PRESERVE THAT'S OUT THERE AND THEN TRYING TO GOT IT.
IT'S KINDA LIKE WITH, WITH BRUSHY CREEK, AS YOU DEVELOP ALONG BRUSHY CREEK MM-HMM.
AND IN THEORY IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO ALL THE WAY FROM HERE TO HUDA.
UM, I'LL JUST BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
UM, NO, I MEAN, EVERYTHING I'VE SEEN SO FAR FROM THE MASTER PLAN, I LOVE THE, THE IDEA OF HAVING THE GATEWAY SIGN ON 180 3.
THE CONCEPTS I'VE SEEN THROUGH THAT AREA OF 180 3 LOOK PHENOMENAL IF WE ACTUALLY EVER GET THAT.
'CAUSE THAT, THAT'LL BE A HUGE, I THINK, ASSET AND, AND A NICE ATTRACTION FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS IS, THIS IS A GOOD START.
COMMISSIONER KLE? NOTHING AT THIS TIME.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNEW WHAT WE WERE SORT OF, UH, GOING FOR AS, AS FAR AS THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, WE USUALLY TRY TO STICK TO THINGS THAT RELATE TO PLANNING.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE THOUGHT OF, AND Y'ALL CAN JUST MULL IT OVER BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, IS WE HAVE FOUR COMMISSIONERS THAT'LL BE UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT IN THE FALL.
IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO HAVE SOME PLANNING, I MEAN SOME TRAINING MONEY IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE END UP WITH EVEN TWO OR THREE NEW BRAND NEW COMMISSIONERS, AND I THINK SOME OF YOU HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BEFORE, UM, THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN RECENTLY APPOINTED.
SO THAT WAS ONE THING I WAS GONNA, YOU KNOW, BRING UP.
UM, NOT FORMALLY, BUT, AND SO MOST OF THE STUFF WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING UP IS GONNA GO ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
AND THERE'S A LOT, SO OBVIOUSLY LOOKING AT THESE TWO DOCUMENTS, ESPECIALLY THAT OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN, BIG WISHLIST AND A LOT OF MONEY'S GOING TO WATER IMPROVEMENTS, THIS, YOU KNOW, NEXT FEW YEARS.
SO, UH, TRY TO HONE DOWN TO YOUR, YOUR VERY MOST FAVORITE ONES.
AND, UM, DOWN HERE, MOTION TO TABLE THIS TILL NEXT MEETING.
I'LL MAKE YOU A MOTION TO TABLE.
DID Y'ALL WANT FOR US TO BRING ANYTHING FORWARD? LIKE DID YOU HAVE ANY THINGS WE SHOULD BE RESEARCHING? THIS IS ALL GOOD.
'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF, OF, OF REALLY GOOD IDEAS IN THERE.
BUT FOR US TO COME TO A CONSENSUS, I THINK NOW THAT YOU KIND OF KNOW WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE GOING, YOU KNOW, UM, WE NEED TO GIVE THEM A REALISTIC RECOMMENDATION, SO.
UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COSGROVE AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE TABLE.
WE SHOULD HAVE POSTPONED TO THE NEXT MEETING DATE, NOT TABLED.
SORRY, THAT JUST CLICKED FOR ME.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONEMENT.
SO THE TIME IS NOW 6 44 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.