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[1. Call to Order.]
EVENING.THE TIME IS NOW 6:00 PM IN THE MEETING OF THE LAND OR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
WE'LL NOW COME TO ORDER, LET THE
[2. Roll Call.]
RECORD SHOW THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT TONIGHT.[3. Director's report to the Planning & Zoning Commission on action taken by City Council on the March 7, 2024 meeting.]
ITEM THREE IS THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.I'M REPORTING ON ITEMS THAT WERE, UM, PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE MARCH 7TH MEETING, UM, THAT WERE FORWARDED FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, THE COUNCIL DID COMPLETE THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE SPILLERS PROJECT, MINOR PUD, AND THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UM, AS WELL AS THE HILL COUNTRY BIBLE P AMENDMENT.
UM, THOSE TWO ITEMS WILL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK FOR THE SECOND READING.
UM, WE ALSO HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, POTENTIAL UPDATES TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, UM, TO PROVIDE A CLASSIFICATION FOR VAPE SHOPS.
UM, SO THAT'LL BE COMING TO THE COMMISSION SOON.
AND, UM, THAT'S IT FOR OUR REPORT.
[4. Review of meeting protocol.]
FOUR, MEETING PROTOCOL TO MY LEFT ON THE WALL.IT SHOWS OUR MEETING PROTOCOLS AND HOW WE CONDUCT OUR MEETINGS IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
NEXT IS ITEM FIVE, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, THIS IS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
I DO HAVE ONE CARD FROM CHRIS AZIS.
[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.ITEMS NUMBER SIX THROUGH 10 CAN BE PASSED WITH A SINGLE MOTION.
THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM, MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COSGROVE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER OLIVER.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
[5. Public comments on items not listed in the agenda.
Public comments on items listed in the agenda will be heard at the time each item is discussed.
[All comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual.]]
[11. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-23-0072 to amend the current zoning of LC-2-A (Local Commercial) to adopt the Tiger Mountain PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning of LC-2-A (Local Commercial) on one (1) parcel of land approximately 10.314 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R031710; and more commonly known as 100 Mockingbird Hill, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF LC TWO A TO ADOPT THE TIGER MOUNTAIN PUD WITH BASE ZONING DISTRICT, UH, BASE ZONING OF LC TWO A, UH, PARCELS ARE SHOWN ON THE AGENDA.
THIS IS LOCATED AT 100 MOCKINGBIRD HILL.
STAFF PRESENTATION, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP OF THE ZONING PROCESS.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THIS AS A MARTIAL ARTS TRAINING FACILITY, INCLUDING A WIDE RANGE OF TRAINING AND EXERCISE CLASSES, AS WELL AS A COMMUNITY WORKSPACE WITH A CAFE.
THE DEVELOPMENT WILL ALSO INCLUDE AN OUTDOOR ARCHERY RANGE FOR TRAINING.
A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT WILL INCLUDE CONTINUING THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USE AND ALLOW FOR GUESTS TO STAY OVERNIGHT.
THE PUD WILL INCLUDE LC, LOCAL COMMERCIAL USES WITH ADDITIONAL REQUESTED USES, NOT SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT IN THE LC USE COMPONENT.
UM, SOME, UH, SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS.
IN 2019, THE CITY OF LEANDER ISSUED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES WITH A FIVE YEAR TIME LIMIT.
THE SUP, UH, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WILL TERMINATE IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
UH, PROPERTY LOCATION, UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UH, NORTH.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UM, UH, NORTH OR SOUTH OF THE EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION AND IS, UH, WHICH IS UNDEVELOPED LAND.
THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, UH, TO THE SOUTH.
UH, THE PROPERTIES ARE PART OF THE HOMESTEAD SUBDIVISION AND ARE BEING USED AS TWO FAMILY DWELLING UNITS AND THEN TO THE WEST.
IT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A GYMNASTIC CENTER CALLED THE MEGA GYM.
THIS PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF LEANDER APRIL 21ST, 2016.
AND THE FOLLOWING ZONING CASES WERE PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED FOR THIS PROPERTY, WHICH ARE THE SPECIAL USE 19 DASH SU DASH 0 0 3, WHICH REQUESTED THE USE OF THAT GENERAL COMMERCIAL FOR THE FIVE YEARS AND WAS APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2019.
AND THEN 19 DASH Z DASH 0 1 1, WHICH IS THE ZONING CA UH, CASE, WHICH CHANGED THE ZONING FROM THE ORIGINAL ANNEX ZONING OF SFR DASH ONE DASH B SINGLE FAMILY RULE TO LC.
IT'S CURRENT ZONING, UH, LC DASH TWO DASH B LOCAL COMMERCIAL, AND WAS APPROVED ON THAT SAME DATE.
THIS PROPERTY CONTAINS A CREEK SMALL POND, SCATTERED TREE CLUSTER CLUSTERS, AND IS RELATIVELY FLAT.
THERE'S ACCESS ONTO MOCKINGBIRD HILL MOCK.
MOCKINGBIRD HILL WILL REQUIRE UPGRADES TO THE SUBSTANDARD ROAD, WHICH WOULD BE ACCESSED OR, UH, ASSESSED DURING PLAN REVIEW.
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PROPERTY IS BEING USED AS A RESIDENCE.A DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD WITH STAFF ON FEBRUARY 20TH, 2023, AND NO CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE PROJECT SINCE THE DEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS HELD.
IN ADDITION TO THE NOTICE MAILED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, THE AGENT REACHED OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, PROPERTY ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY, OR ANY PROPERTIES USED AS SINGLE FAMILY USES WITHIN 500 FEET.
AS PER ARTICLE 10, SECTION 3D OF THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE, ANY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIA, UH, ASSOCIATIONS LOCATED WITHIN 500 FEET WERE ALSO CONTACTED.
UH, THE APPLICANT DID PERFORM A PORTION OF THEIR OUTREACH AFTER THE DEADLINE OF 14 DAYS PRIOR TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, PUBLIC HEARING BEING FEBRUARY 29TH.
NOTI NOTIFICATION WAS GIVEN TO THE HOA WITHIN THE APPROPRIATE TIMEFRAME.
HOWEVER, THE MEETING WITH THE RESIDENCE WAS SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 1ST.
THE COMMISSION HAS THE OPTION TO POSTPONE ACTION ON THIS CASE TO THE MEETING OF, UH, MARCH 28TH TO ALLOW RESIDENTS ADEQUATE TIME TO RESPOND TO THE NOTICE.
A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS HELD WITH THE HOA ON MARCH 1ST, 2024.
THE APPLICANT PREVIOUSLY WENT DOOR TO DOOR AND SPOKE WITH HOMEOWNERS.
NO CONCERNS WERE BROUGHT UP OR CHANGES MADE TO THIS REQUEST.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE FULL REPORT, UH, FROM THE APPLICANT AND ATTACHED UNDER ITEM NINE, UH, ENC CLOSING.
THIS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR PUD WOULD ALLOW FOR ALL USES PERMITTED WITHIN THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL USE COMPONENT AND PROVIDES ADDITIONAL PERMITTED USES.
THE PROPOSAL IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT LAND USES ALONG MOCKINGBIRD HILL AND MEETS THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, UH, MARCO CASTANEDA, CIVIL ENGINEER, UH, WORKING ON THE PROJECT.
UM, UH, DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD FROM, UH, JUSTICE PRESENTATION.
UM, BASICALLY WE ARE, UM, AGAIN, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE ARE LOOKING TO BUILD A, UH, MARTIAL ARTS TRAINING AND AMENITY CENTER.
IT WILL HAVE SOME, UH, TRAINING ROOMS, UH, CAFE AND A, UM, A SIGNIFICANT ARCHERY RANGE ATTACHED TO IT, UH, WITH PARKING AND DRAINAGE AND UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL.
UM, AND THE, UH, ADDITIONAL KIND OF SHORT TERM RESIDENTIAL THAT, THAT HE MENTIONED, IT WAS MAINLY KIND OF A FUTURE PHASE.
WE, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT SEVERAL YEARS DOWN THE LINE WITH THE INTENT TO KIND OF HOUSE GUEST INSTRUCTORS TO FROM OUT OF STATE, OUT OF COUNTRY, UH, THAT DO EXTENDED, UH, TRAINING SESSIONS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO STAY ON SITE SO THEY CAN DO THEIR, THEIR BASICALLY TRAINING CAMP, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, AGAIN, THE, THE OWNER LIVES ON THE PROPERTY, SO HE WILL ALSO CONTINUE TO STAY THERE.
AND, UH, THINK THAT KIND OF COVERS MOST OF OUR USES THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON HERE.
AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
ITEM NUMBER 11, IS ANYONE WANTING TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE THAT HAS NOT ALREADY FILLED OUT A CARD? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTER INTO DISCUSSION.
WE'LL START DOWN HERE WITH COMMISSIONER MAHAN.
YEAH, I'M, I'M PRETTY GOOD WITH THIS ONE.
UM, I DO APPRECIATE, AS I'VE SAID IN THE PAST, THAT WE ARE STARTING WITH A LOWER BASE ZONING, UH, BUT WE'RE ADDING IN ALLOWABLE USES VERSUS STARTING AT THE HIGHER BASE ZONING AND IN DOING, UM, RESTRICTED USES.
SO I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE APPROACH ON THIS.
THE ONLY THING I WILL POINT OUT THOUGH IS ATTACHMENT FIVE, UH, IS INCORRECT.
IT SHOWS THE PUD IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL IS ACTUALLY A PUD FOR LOCAL COMMERCIAL.
JUST A, UM, A FIX FOR OUR, OUR NOTES.
COMMISSIONER COSGROVE? NO, MY, UH, I, I'M PRETTY GOOD WITH THIS MYSELF.
THE, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS WHAT KIND OF SAFEGUARDS ARE GOING TO BE IN PLACE FOR, UM, THE ARCHERY? I MEAN, IF YOU'RE, UH, IF YOU'RE SHOOTING A COMPOUND BOW AND ONE GETS AWAY FROM YOU, THAT DIDN CAN GO QUITE A WAYS.
AND, AND I MIGHT BRING UP THE OWNER A LITTLE BIT FOR SOME OF THE DETAILS, BUT WE ARE PROPOSING QUITE A BIT OF SAFETY MEASURES ON THAT, UM, UH, REMODELING OFF OF VARIOUS OTHER SITES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND IN FROM KOREA, WHICH THE ARCHERY IS, IS BASED OFF OF KOREAN ARCHERY.
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UM, THERE WILL BE, UH, ARCHERY, KNITTING AROUND AND BEHIND AND THE FAR END OF THE ARCHERY FIELD.UH, THERE WILL ALSO BE A, A LARGE, UH, TALL EARTH AND BERM THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO AS A, UH, UH, BLOCKING.
WE'RE DOING VERY DENSE VEGETATION UP AND DOWN, UH, THE SIDES OF THE, UH, ARCHERY FIELD AS WELL IN COMBINATION WITH THE NETTING.
UM, AND WE ARE, AGAIN, STAYING QUITE A BIT OF WAYS FROM, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF THINGS.
WE PULLED OUR DEVELOPMENT AS FAR AWAY FROM THAT, UH, AS POSSIBLE THAT, UH, THE RANGE OF, OF, OF THE ARCHERY EQUIPMENT THEY'RE GONNA BE USING IS NOT VERY EXTREME.
PEOPLE DON'T BRING THEIR OWN, UH, YOU KNOW, COMPOUND BOWS AND THINGS.
IT'S TRAINING FACILITY FOR, FOR NEW GUYS.
AND THE ACTUALLY RANGE ITSELF IS ACTUALLY, UH, UH, MOSTLY INDOOR WITH SOME OUTDOOR AREA.
UM, THE OUTDOOR AREA IS RESTRICTED TO, TO FULLY QUALIFIED AND TRAINED, UH, PARTICIPANTS TO USE THAT PORTION OF IT.
HOW Y'ALL DOING? UM, MY ONLY QUESTION IS, AND THIS IS OUTTA CURIOSITY, ABOUT HOW MANY, UH, JOB OPPORTUNITIES WOULD THIS BRING TO THE AREA ESTIMATION GUESSTIMATION? YEAH.
I DON'T HAVE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT, UH, WITH STAFF AND AS THE SITE CONTINUES TO GROW, MM-HMM.
I MEAN, UH, I WOULD SAY AT LEAST ABOUT 30, 40 JOBS JUST ON REGULAR STAFF.
AND THEN AS IT GROWS WITH THE, UM, HE'S LOOKING TO DO POTENTIALLY A SPA TYPE OF, OF AMENITY.
AND SO THAT WILL BRING IN SOME MORE, UM, OPPORTUNITIES AS THAT CONTINUES TO GROW.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATED STAFF COUNT ON WHEN IT FIRST OPEN MORE CONSERVATIVE
UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE INCLUDING STUFF LIKE, UH,
UM, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY MORE IN THE REALM OF 10 TO 12, LIKE REGULAR FULLTIME JOBS FOR A COMPANY FULL-TIME.
MAYBE INTO THE EIGHT TO 10 MM-HMM.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOME PART-TIME COMING IN.
UM, SO THERE WAS A NOTE ABOUT OTHER, YOU KNOW, USES, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE LC, UH, USE COMPONENT.
UM, I SAY YOU SAW LIKE UNDER LC THERE'S A BED AND BREAKFAST AND THERE, CONSIDERING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LIKE RESIDENTIAL OR A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, IS THERE GONNA BE RENTAL, LIKE AN AIRBNB OUT ON THE PROPERTY OR IS THAT NOT, NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR AIRBNB.
THE, THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT IS FOR, UH, UM, INSTRUCTORS AND MAYBE STUDENTS, LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE YEAH.
PARTICIPANTS OF THE TRAINING PROGRAM.
YEAH, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
UM, AND THE OTHER ONE, JUST GOING BACK, I, I DO ECHO THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ARCHERY.
I, I DO ARCHERY MOSTLY COMPOUND MYSELF.
SO ARE YOU, IS IT MOSTLY RECURVE COMPOUND BOTH, OR ARE YOU LOOKING TO POSSIBLY RENT THE FACILITY OUT AND LET PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECUR OR COMPOUND BOATS COME PRACTICE AND HOW LONG IS THE RANGE? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, SO ON THE INDOOR RANGES, I'M GONNA HAVE THREE SEPARATE PODS SET UP THAT ARE PROTECTED ON ALL SIDES.
AND THOSE WILL BE UP TO 30, 35 METERS.
AND THAT'LL BE OPEN TO, UM, I'M THINKING ONE OF THE PODS THAT MIGHT ALLOW COMPOUNDS THAT, EVERYTHING ELSE I'M DOING RECURVE, UM, ASIATIC HORSE BOW IS WHAT THEY'RE CALLED.
UM, AND THEN ON THE OUTDOOR RANGE ONLY THE, UH, KOREAN STYLE BOWS.
AND, AND WHAT'S GONNA BE THE, THE, THE YARDAGE OF THE DISTANCE ON THE, OH, SORRY.
THE OUTDOOR RANGE IS ACTUALLY, IT'S 150 METER, THE TARGET'S AT 145 METERS.
SO IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE SAFETY BERM AND THE NETTING AT THE BACK, WHICH WOULD GO UP ABOUT 25 FEET, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE REAL HARD TO GET OVER THAT.
UM, I MEAN, WITH THE, WITH WITH THE RECURVE, YOU CAN PROBABLY GET CLOSE TO IT.
UM, BUT UM, THE OTHER QUESTION, WHICH DIRECTION IS IT GOING TO BE FACING, THE OUTDOOR PORTION? IS IT BE FACING? BECAUSE THE, THE BACK BEHIND YOU IS RESIDENTIAL.
AND SO JUST TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT, WHERE IT'S GONNA BE POSITIONED IN WHICH WAY IT IS GONNA BE FACING IN THAT DIRECTION.
BUT THAT'S WHAT THE, THE, THE BERM AND THE, THE BERM AND THE NETTING IS.
AND, AND AS HE MENTIONED, PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO ACTUALLY BE EXPERIENCED, THEY'LL HAVE INDOOR TRAINING BEFORE THEY'RE ALLOWED ONTO THE LONG RANGE FIELD.
NO, NO SKY DRAWING, RIGHT? NO SKY DRAWINGS
WELL, AND ACTUALLY AS AN ARCHITECT ARCH ARCHITECTURAL, UH, COMPONENT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, A EYEBROW GOING OVER THE SHOOTING AREA SO THAT YOU
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CAN'T PERFECT.YEAH, I, I LOVE THE IDEA FOR THIS BUSINESS AND, UH, THE CREATIVITY TO IT.
I, I THINK THAT IT'S GONNA BE POTENTIALLY EVEN LIFE CHANGING FOR A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO START TRAINING, UH, IN THIS WAY.
AND I, I LIKE THE DESIGN AND THE LAYOUT.
UM, MY ONE CONCERN WAS THAT THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH PORTION OF, OF THE, OF THE FORMS, UH, SEEMED A LITTLE BIT WEAK, UH, IN TERMS OF EXACTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE HAD BEEN TALKED TO AND DISCUSSED AND WHAT I, BUT GIVEN THAT WE'RE NOT IN THE TALK, TALKING ABOUT GC AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LC, UM, I'M, I HAVE NO CONCERNS WITH IT AND HOPE IT'S REAL SUCCESSFUL.
MY QUESTION, UH, IT'S BEEN PARTIALLY ANSWERED.
UH, IT APPEARS THAT THE ARCHERY IS ON THE SOUTHERN PART A ADJACENT TO THOSE, UH, THE HOMES THAT ARE TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, IT'S MORE ALONG AS DRAWN.
IT'S, UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF, WE'RE KIND OF SIDEWAYS.
SO THE BOTTOM PART OF THE PLAN IS OUR WEST PROPERTY LINE.
UM, AT THE MORE EXTREME ANGLE WHERE YOU SEE THE CUL-DE-SAC, THAT'S, THAT'S THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION THAT, IN FACT THE, THE SIDE WHERE THE ARCHERY AND THE, UH, MAIN BUILDING IS LOCATED, UM, THAT'S MORE ADJACENT TO A BIG WAREHOUSE PROJECT THAT THE GYMNASTICS CENTER THAT, THAT WE MENTIONED.
UM, BUT THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL IS AT THE FAR END, UH, AT THE EXTREME RIGHT PLAN.
MY CONCERN WAS BECAUSE THE ARCHERY WAS GOING TO BE POSSIBLY ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL.
DID THOSE PEOPLE WITH THE LATE NOTIFICATION, DID THESE HOMEOWNERS HAVE TIME TO SHOW UP TONIGHT? BUT IT'S, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER.
Y'ALL DID MEET WITH THEM ON MARCH THE FIRST? WE DID, YEAH.
IN FACT, UH, WE HAD A MEETING WITH HOA, NOT JUST FOR THIS, BUT ALSO ABOUT, UM, UH, POTENTIAL EASEMENT WE MAY BE REQUESTING FROM THEM FOR UTILITY CONNECTIONS.
UM, SO IT WAS A, A SIGNIFICANT MEETING WE HAD WITH THEM.
THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IN GENERAL.
UH, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC CONCERNS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE FROM THAT MEETING IS HERE TONIGHT, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS FILLED OUT FOR IT.
BUT, BUT WE DID MEET WITH THEM.
DOES ANYONE HAVE A MOTION THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE? I SECOND.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KALO, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MOSS TO APPROVE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
[12. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Comprehensive Plan Case CPA-24-0010 to amend the Comprehensive Plan land use category from Multi-Use Corridor (Priority) to Neighborhood Residential and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-23-0082 to amend the current zoning of SFR-2-B (Single-Family Rural) and LC-2-B (Local Commercial) to adopt the Oakmont PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning districts of SFS-2-A (Single-Family Suburban), LC-2-A (Local Commercial) and GC-3-A (General Commercial) on six (6) parcels of land approximately 50.31 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R473796, R324593, R324592, R412990, R594957, and R594958; and to the east of the intersection of CR 274 and Ronald W. Reagan Boulevard, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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AND AT THIS TIME, I'LL TURN THE MEETING OVER TO THE VICE CHAIR.
I NEED TO RECUSE, SO I WILL SEE Y'ALL ON THE NEXT ITEM.
SORRY, AFTER I READ IT, OF COURSE.
UM, I, ITEM ITEM NUMBER 12, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CASE CPA DASH 24 DASH ZERO TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE CATEGORY FOR MULTI-USE CORRIDOR TO NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z DASH 23 DASH 0 0 82.
TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF SFR DASH TWO B, SINGLE FAMILY RURAL AND LC DASH TWO B, LOCAL COMMERCIAL TO ADOPT THE OAKMONT PUD PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICTS OF SFS DASH TWO, A SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN LC DASH TWO DASH, A LOCAL COMMERCIAL AND GC DASH THREE DASH, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON SIX PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 50.31 ACRES IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCELS, R 4 7 3 7 9 6 R 3, 2, 4, 5, 9 3 R 3, 2, 4, 5, 9 2 R 4 2, 9 9 R 5 9 4 9 5 7.
AND R 5 9 4 9 5 8 TO THE EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF CR 2 74 AND RONALD REAGAN BOULEVARD, LEANER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS AND THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
YOU HAVE PREVIOUSLY HEARD A PORTION OF THIS PROJECT ALREADY THE LAST TIME, UM, IN JANUARY ON THE JANUARY 25TH MEETING.
SO I WILL JUST BE PROVIDING AN UPDATE FROM WHAT'S HAPPENED AFTER THAT.
THE APPLICANT DID SUBMIT A CHANGE TO THE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY ALONG RONALD REAGAN BOULEVARD.
SO IT'S THE PORTION THAT'S IN THE LITTLE BLUE BOX ON THE BOTTOM.
IT WAS PREVIOUSLY PART OF THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO IT AS PRESIDENTIAL.
UM, SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, FOLLOWING
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THE MEETING, IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED DENIAL FOLLOWING THE OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENCE THE APPLICANT HAS WAS NOT PRESENT AT THE TIME TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS, BUT THEY DID REQUEST TO POSTPONE THE CASE AFTER THAT MEETING SO THAT THEY CAN REVISE THE REQUEST AND RESPONSE TO THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS REGARDING ACCESS.SO THIS PROPOSAL NOW INCLUDES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND UPDATED PUD NOTES, WHICH PROHIBITS ACCESS TO THE SITE FROM HIGH SUM TRAIL.
AND, UM, THEY DID HAVE A SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, WHICH WAS HELD AT 3:00 PM ON FEBRUARY THE 10TH.
AND NO MAJOR CONCERNS WERE LISTED BY THE APPLICANT.
SO, UM, THEY'RE JUST, LET ME SHOW YOU ARIEL, THEY ARE LIMITING THE, OKAY, THEY'RE LIMITING THE ACCESS THAT GOES FROM THIS POINT RIGHT HERE, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE THAT POINT IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
SO THEY WILL BE TAKING ACCESS FROM RONALD REAGAN, BUT THAT IS NOT, HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED YET.
IT HAS NOT BEEN REVIEWED AT THIS TIME.
WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT ZONING.
SO THAT WILL BE REVIEWED UNDER APPROPRIATE STANDARDS AND CODES AT THE TIME.
UM, SO THE PUD WILL HAVE HIGHER STANDARDS SUCH AS PROHIBITED USES, LIMITED RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, PRIVATE STREETS, AND PHASING OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
FOLLOWING THE MEETING OF THE 20TH OF JANUARY 25TH, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND UPDATED PUD NOTES PROHIBIT ACCESS FROM HIGH LOWS, AND TRAIL STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.
I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, I DO HAVE QUITE A FEW FOLKS, UH, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS.
SO WHAT I'LL DO IS, UM, I WILL, UH, WHAT'S THAT APPLICANT PRESENTATION? OH YEAH.
SO DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE AS WELL? YES, SIR.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME SPEAK OR PRESENT OR GO STRAIGHT TO PUBLIC COMMENTS ASSOCIATION FIRST AND THEN WE CAN GET THE PRESENTATION? I'VE GOTTA GET IT OVER TO KARINA.
SO WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU PREFER THAT WE GO AHEAD AND LET THE PUBLIC COMMENTS GO? ABSOLUTELY, PLEASE.
UH, WELL, IF I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU CAN COME UP, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AT THAT POINT.
ONCE YOUR THREE MINUTES IS UP, YOU'LL NEED TO SIT DOWN AND, AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PERSON WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
SO WE HAVE QUITE A FEW CARDS, SO TRY TO MAKE THIS AS ORDERLY AS POSSIBLE.
UH, FRANK BREWER, TELL ME DIFFERENT ADDRESS.
YEAH, JUST, UH, SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UH, ADDRESS IS 3 0 1 OLD PECAN LANE.
AND IN REAGAN'S OVERLOOK, UH, WE'RE THE SUBDIVISION THAT IS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UH, WE WE'RE NOT AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS SUBDIVISION, BUT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, SAFETY ISSUES REGARDING TRAFFIC.
I ALMOST DIDN'T MAKE IT HERE TODAY.
WHEN I PULLED OUT ON VISTA HEIGHTS TO COME HERE, UM, THERE WAS A HILL THAT COMES UP AND A TRUCK WAS COMING PRETTY FAST.
I PULLED, IT WAS CLEAR WHEN I PULLED OUT AND FLASHING LIGHTS AND HORNS AND EVERYTHING, AND IT WAS ALMOST A SCENE FROM ROAD RAGE.
BUT, UM, AT ANY RATE, IT'S, IT'S UNSAFE.
WE NEED A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT THAT INTERSECTION.
AND ADDITIONALLY, WHEN YOU'RE GOING NORTH ON RONALD REAGAN TO TURN INTO OUR SUBDIVISION, THERE IS NO DECELERATION LANE.
AND WE NEED A DECELERATION LANE, UH, IN, UH, TO MAKE IT SAFER.
AND WITH THE INCREASED TRAFFIC AT PALMERO, WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX GOING IN ACROSS THE STREET THERE, IT'S GONNA BE A NIGHTMARE, AND PEOPLE WILL BE JAMMING THAT INTERSECTION TRYING TO GET TO GO.
WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE, THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ISSUES THAT ARE ACTUALLY EXIST AT THAT INTERSECTION RIGHT NOW THAT ARE RELATED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UH, I HAVE, UH, SHERRY WOOD NEXT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? GONNA SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE? SHERRY WOOD, 33 12 VISTA HEIGHTS DRIVE.
AND, UM, I DO NOT OPPOSE THE REQUEST BY THE OAKMONT, PUD EITHER, UM, BUT EVEN WITH THE CHANGES OF THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE THAT THEY'VE COME UP WITH, UM, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT HOW WE ENTER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL BE COMING ALONG AND WE'RE GONNA BE TURNING ON OUR BLINKERS TO TURN INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE TURNING ON BLINKERS TO DO THEIR ENTRANCE, WHICH IS GONNA BE ABOUT MAYBE ON THE PROPOSED, ABOUT 250 FEET FURTHER UP, AND, YOU KNOW, BE A LITTLE CONFUSING FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO PULL OUT WHO'S GONNA BE TURNING WHERE.
UM, I THINK WE NEED A DECELERATION LANE TO GET IN THERE SAFELY RIGHT NOW.
IT'S VERY, VERY CONCERNING AND SCARY, AS FRANK MENTIONED WITH THE HILL AND IT'S BLIND, YOU CAN'T SEE THE CARS COMING UP.
AND I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC FROM THE APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET AT, UM, PALMER RIDGE HAS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THERE, AND THERE'S TRAFFIC TWICE A DAY COMING IN AND OUTTA THAT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET OUT AT THAT TIME.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT AND SCARY.
AND WE ALSO HAVE TRAFFIC THAT THEY'LL BE COMING.
THERE'S ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT JUST PAST WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT'S
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GONNA GO IN.THAT'S GONNA BE, IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY COME HERE, WE'LL BE PROPOSING SOMETHING.
AND THAT'S GONNA BRING EVEN MORE HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL IN THAT AREA.
SO ALL ALONG OUR LITTLE CORRIDOR, THERE'S JUST BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.
MORE CARS, MORE CARS, MORE CARS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SIGNAL, A DECELERATION LANE AND ACCELERATION LANE FOR US TO GET IN AND OUT OF OUR FRONT ENTRANCE SAFELY.
UH, NEXT I HAVE, UH, UH, MR. UH, DANNY ADAMS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? WELL, LOOK, APPLE SAYS, I'VE ALMOST REACHED MY GOAL FOR THE DAY THAT YOU AND I JUST WALKED FROM THERE TO HERE.
UH, I'M DANNY ADAMS, UH, 36 0 8 ELM RIDGE DRIVE.
I LIVE IN, UM, UH, REAGANS OVERLOOK, UH, AS HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OPPOSITION TO, TO OAKMONT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS WHAT HAS ALREADY BECOME A, A VERY, YOU KNOW, TERRIBLE TRAFFIC SITUATION AT THE INTERSECTION OF, OF THE TWO SUBDIVISIONS.
SO, UM, NOBODY EXPECTS THAT RONALD REAGAN IS GONNA SLOW DOWN ON DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S, THIS IS PROBLEM'S GONNA GET WORSE.
UM, AND JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TRANSPARENCY, I WAS A CIVIL ENGINEER FOR 35 YEARS AND DID SITE DEVELOPMENT FOR WALMART AND LOWE'S AND MCDONALD'S AND, AND, AND, UH, UM, HEB.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES.
UH, I'LL JUST TELL YOU THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS, A BLIND HILL IS ABOUT AS DANGEROUS AS IT GETS.
AND PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS, IS THAT UNLESS WE PARK A POLICE OFFICER OUT THERE 24 7, UH, CARS ARE NOT GONNA SLOW DOWN.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU CAN DRIVE THE SPEED LIMIT AND SOMEBODY, UH, IS GONNA PASS YOU DOING 70 MILES AN HOUR.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPACT, UH, A, A SAFETY ISSUE THAT IS JUST GETTING GONNA GET WORSE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN OUT THERE, IF YOU'VE EVER PARKED ALONG THE, YOU KNOW, UP IN OUR SUBDIVISION, YOU WATCH DURING THE PEAK HOURS, UH, IT BASICALLY BECOMES A GAME OF CHICKEN.
UH, YOUR, THE RESIDENTS FROM BOTH PALMERO RIDGE AND FROM REAGAN'S OVERLOOK ARE TRYING TO OUT GUESS WHAT THE OTHER DRIVERS ARE GONNA DO AS YOU'RE TRYING TO EITHER GO SOUTH OR GO NORTH ON, ON RONALD REAGAN.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THING THAT'S GONNA FIX THAT IS GONNA BE A SIGNAL.
UH, THE SIGNAL AT HERO WAY HELPED CREATE SOME GAPS.
AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE, IN THE FUTURE, THERE'S GONNA BE A SIGNAL AT, UH, SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY.
CORRECT? BUT IT DOESN'T EXIST RIGHT NOW.
AND OUR CONCERN IS THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A FATALITY BEFORE THAT ROAD COMES THROUGH.
AND SO, AND EVEN WHEN THAT ROAD DOES HAPPEN AND THERE'S A SIGNAL THERE, YES, IT'S GONNA CREATE ANOTHER GAP, BUT ALL IT'S GONNA DO, I CAN TELL YOU FROM, FROM EXPERIENCE OF SEEING THIS HAPPEN IS, IS THAT PEOPLE THAT GOT STOPPED ARE GONNA TRY AND MAKE UP TIME GOING OVER THAT HILL.
YOU'VE GOT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT IS TRULY IN A BLIND SITUATION, AND SO WHEN THEY HOP OUT, THEY'RE HONESTLY NOT GONNA KNOW IF WAY'S COMING OVER THAT HILL DOING, YOU KNOW, 70 OR 75 MILES AN HOUR.
WHAT ELSE DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT, UH, THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET, GET BEAT OVER THE HEAD WITH TONIGHT? UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
WE JUST WANT TO, WE JUST ARE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS IN THE CITY'S FOCUS.
IT'S A PROBLEM THAT THAT'S ONLY GONNA GET WORSE.
AND THERE'S MY TIME, APPARENTLY I REACHED MY GOAL.
THANK YOU, MR. ADAMS. UH, NEXT I HAVE A, UH, MR. JOHNNY, UH, PALINO.
HELLO, JOHNNY MEO, 33 16 VISTA HEIGHTS DRIVE, REAGAN'S OVERLOOK.
SO, UH, MY CONCERN REALLY IS, UH, ANOTHER TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERN, BUT ON THE OPPOSITE END OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMING IN ON, UH, LIMESTONE CREEK ROAD.
AND, UH, I'M HONESTLY, I'M JUST TERRIFIED OF THAT ENTRY AND EXIT.
UH, I'VE BEEN IN A MULTI-CAR ACCIDENT THERE MYSELF, AND THE TRAFFIC IS JUST WHIZZING THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME.
JUST CRAZY GRAVEL TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING.
SO, UH, REALLY I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF LANE, UM, UH, I DUNNO WHAT YOU CALL IT, JUST A, A BETTER WAY TO GET IN OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS SAFELY.
I MEAN, I EVEN TELL MY FAMILY AND, UH, FRIENDS AND COMING TO VISIT US, UH, BE REALLY CAREFUL COMING INTO THAT, UH, ENTRANCE AND LEAVING, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, EXIT BECAUSE I LIKE TELL MY KIDS, I SAY, HEY, IT'S A, WHEN YOU LEAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S A NO TALKING ZONE.
THAT'S WHAT I TELL 'EM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I I, IT'S TERRIFYING SEEING THOSE CARS COMING AROUND THE CORNER.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT THAT OF, AND I REALLY WISH SOMEBODY COULD JUST, UH, HAVE A DESIGNEE OR A REPRESENTATIVE, KIND OF JUST SPEND 10 MINUTES OUT THERE, JUST KIND OF A OBSERVING IT FOR YOURSELF.
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YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, JUST IN 10 MINUTES, HOW CRAZY IT IS OUT THERE.I HAVE A, UH, MS. CINDY PALINO NEXT.
HELLO, CINDY PALOMINO AT 33 16 VISTA HEIGHTS.
RONALD REAGAN'S OVERLOOK ALSO, DON'T OPPOSE THE ZONING, UH, REQUEST, BUT, UM, I, I'M HERE TO HOPEFULLY REQUEST WHAT YOU'VE HEARD, UM, THAT RONALD REAGAN STRETCH HAS GROWN.
WE'VE BEEN THERE PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR YEARS, AND THE GROWTH THERE HAS JUST BEEN TREMENDOUS BETWEEN RETAIL, RESTAURANTS, APARTMENTS, UH, ADDITIONAL HOUSING, UH, THE HEB UH, SCHOOLS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SO MUCH THERE THAT IF I, I MEAN, I WOULD'VE HOPED THAT SOMEBODY HAD DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, TO EVALUATE, YOU KNOW, THE NEED FOR THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
I MEAN, DOES IT TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO SUPPORT THAT? IT DOES.
BUT IF THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, I WOULD REALLY URGE US TO DO A TRAFFIC SIGNAL EVALUATION, UM, BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION IS SO DENSE AND IT'S LIKE A FOUR-WAY INTERSECTION, AS PEOPLE SAID BEFORE ME.
YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE GOING, TURNING TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING NORTH AND SOUTH.
YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING ALL THE WAY ACROSS.
THEN YOU'VE GOT CONSTRUCTION, UH, STILL BEING DONE ON THE APARTMENTS AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
SO YOU'VE GOT VERY HEAVY TRACKER TRACTOR TRAILERS, 18 WHEELERS GOING VERY, VERY FAST THERE.
UM, WHAT ELSE? UM, YEAH, I MEAN, IT JUST STACKS UP TREMENDOUSLY, UH, WHICHEVER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF A DECELERATION LANE IS THE SAME THING AS HAVING A DEDICATED TURN LANE.
SO YOU CAN, IT'S A TWO RAY LANE, SOUTH AND NORTH, SO IF YOU WANNA TURN, EITHER WAY, YOU'RE IN THE LANE, YOU CANNOT, I MEAN, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CURB ACCESS ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM.
SO YOU'VE GOTTA BE PUTTING ON YOUR BRAKES SIGNAL WAY BEFORE.
AND THERE'S A CHURCH THERE, SO PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA TURN AT THE CHURCH, IF YOU'RE GONNA TURN AT THE RESIDENTIAL AREA OR FURTHER DOWN THE LINE.
SO THE PEOPLE BEHIND, YOU'RE KIND OF GUESSING WHICH WAY YOU'RE GONNA GO.
UM, SO TOO MANY CARS CAN GO TOO MANY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS FOR YOU TO DO IT SAFELY.
UM, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GO, RIGHT, AND THEN TAKING A U-TURN TO COME BACK AROUND BECAUSE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT SAFER THAN TRYING TO GO ACROSS AND THEN SOUTHBOUND ON RONALD REAGAN.
SO, REALLY URGE FOR SOMEONE TO SPEND SOME TIME OUT THERE, BECAUSE I MEAN, EVERY WEEK WE SEE ACCIDENTS AND NEAR ACCIDENTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE ESCAPED WITH.
AND THERE'S ALSO A TON OF CYCLISTS THAT, YOU KNOW, TAKE THEIR OWN LIFE AND THEIR OWN HANDS GOING UP AND DOWN RONALD REAGAN TOO.
UH, NEXT I HAVE, UH, KELLY WOOD.
I LIVE AT 33 12 VISTA HEIGHTS R OVERLOOK.
AND, UH, I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 2016, AND THAT'S, SO I'VE SEEN THIS GROWTH, UH, OVER THAT TIMEFRAME.
AND I, I WORKED UNTIL NOVEMBER, SO I WAS DOING THE MORNING AND EVENING COMMUTE.
NOW THAT I'M GOING IN AND OUT DURING THE DAY, I SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I SEE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS COMING BY, AND THAT'S SOMETHING HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED YET.
I THINK EVEN WHEN THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES IN AT ONLY A FEW HUNDRED FEET NORTH OF US, AND SEEING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER SUBDIVISIONS WHEN THEY START GETTING BUILT, I'M, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A RECOGNITION THAT THEY MAY ACTUALLY IMPOSE ON OUR ENTRANCE.
EVEN GETTING INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS THAT ARE GONNA GO IN AND OUT OF THERE, THEY'RE GONNA STACK UP.
SO THAT'S A QUESTION I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'LL LOOK LIKE EXACTLY, DEPENDING ON WHERE IT GOES IN, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR OF THAT TRAFFIC AND IT'S CLEAR OF US WHEN IT GOES INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN UNKNOWN, BUT TRYING TO DECELERATE THERE WITH PEOPLE GOING AT THE SPEEDS, THEY, THEY GO TODAY, IT, IT COULD CONTINUE TO CAUSE PROBLEMS FROM US, EVEN WITH A DECELERATION LANE, LET'S, IT'S GOT ENOUGH DISTANCE.
I DO WANNA REITERATE ALSO THAT THE, THAT THE LIGHT AT HERO WAY HAS BEEN A REALLY GOOD THING FOR US.
I, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT LIGHT TODAY.
UH, SO THAT WAS A GOOD PLANNING ACTIVITY.
THERE'S ONE OTHER THING ABOUT PALMERO RIDGE ACROSS FROM US.
IT'S NOT EXACTLY LINED UP WITH US, SO I ASSUME THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME DEVIATION PLAN TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THERE, SINCE IT DOESN'T QUITE LINE UP STRAIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
I'M SURE THERE'S A WAY TO COVER THAT.
UM, WE WOULD WANT TO KNOW, THOUGH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO TO OUR ENTRANCE TO, TO MAKE THAT WORK PROPERLY.
I'M NOT A CONSTRUCTION ENGINEER, SO THAT'S NOT MY GAME.
IT'S JUST WHEN I LOOK AT IT AND HAVE TO GO ACROSS THE STREET, I KNOW WE'RE NOT EXACTLY, UH, IN THE RIGHT LANE WITH EACH OTHER.
UH, LASTLY, UM, I, IT'S ALREADY BEEN STATED THAT, UH, THERE'S NOT AN INTEREST IN USING THE HIGH L OF ENTRANCE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
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QUESTION WE'D REALLY LIKE, REALLY GOOD CLARIFICATION ON HOW THAT WILL BE USED AT ALL, OR IF IT WILL BE DECOMMISSIONED AS AN ENTRANCE.WE KNOW THAT THERE'S ALSO TWO OTHER PROPERTIES UP THERE THAT USE THAT ENTRANCE TODAY.
AND SO WE'RE ALL, WE'RE CURIOUS ABOUT HOW, HOW THAT ACCESS WILL BE GRANTED TO THOSE PEOPLE AS WELL.
NEXT, I HAVE A, UH, BE CONNORS MAN.
I LIVE AT 3 6 0 9 ELM RIDGE DRIVE IN REAGAN'S OVERLOOK AS WELL.
UM, WE HAVE MOVED HERE FROM SEATTLE.
WE'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS.
AND, UM, I'VE SEEN SOME TRAFFIC IN MY TIME,
WE DON'T GO AS FAST AS THEY DO HERE,
BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT MY SON BOUGHT A HOUSE IN PALMER RIDGE.
SO WE ARE LITERALLY THE, WE'RE GOING, OUR FAMILY IS GOING BACK AND FORTH ALL THE TIME THERE.
IT IS A TERRIFYING, UM, INTERSECTION JUST BECAUSE THE, OF ALL THE REASONS PEOPLE HAVE SET.
SO EVERYTHING THAT SOMEBODY THEY'VE, I'VE AGREED WITH.
BUT I HAD A SITUATION YESTERDAY WHERE, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOW STARTING CONSTRUCTION, THEY HAVE THEIR DIGGING DITCHES, THEY'RE STARTING TO DO STUFF THERE.
UM, SO YESTERDAY EVENING I WAS COMING BACK FROM MY SON'S AND THAT ONE OF THE CONSTRUCTION GUYS TRUCK HAD BEEN THAT HE WAS HAVING IT TOWED.
SO NOW WE HAVE
SO HAD THERE BEEN A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE, IT JUST MIGHT HAVE BEEN EASIER TO DEAL WITH A SITUATION LIKE THAT.
AND I JUST, LUCKILY NOBODY, THERE WAS NO ISSUE.
THEY WERE GETTING EVERYTHING DONE, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WORTH KNOWING IS GOING ON.
AND AS WE HAVE MORE AND MORE CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE SAME THING.
AND IT IS AGREE AGREEING THAT THE 2243 IS ALSO A LITTLE BIT SCARY.
THERE'S NOT A REAL LANE TO DECELERATE.
BUT, UM, WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD ADDRESS IT.
UH, NEXT I HAVE A BETH, UH, BURMA.
DID I GET THAT RIGHT? BERNARDO.
SO I'M NOT GONNA BEAT A DEAD HORSE.
HOWEVER, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IS THE FACT, ACTUALLY, COULD YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME REAL QUICK AND ADDRESS? THANK YOU.
IT'S BETH BERNARDO, 28 0 5 VISTA HEIGHTS DRIVE.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IS THE FACT OF WHERE EXACTLY THE ENTRANCE TO THE SUB, THE NEW SUBDIVISION WILL GO.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, WHEN YOU, WHEN THEY WILL COME OUT, THE ONLY WAY FOR THEM WILL BE IS TO TURN NORTH.
AND THEN THERE IS THE TURNAROUND ON 2 74 TO GO SOUTH.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT AREA IS WHERE THE HILL IS.
SO WHEN THEY ARE COMING OUT, THERE'S A HIGH PROBABILITY THAT THEY'RE GONNA SCOOT ACROSS TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC AT 65, 70 MILES AN HOUR IN ORDER TO GET OVER TO 2 74 TO MAKE THE TURNAROUND.
THAT'S NOT THE STOPLIGHT THAT EVERYBODY'S REFERRING TO AT PALMERA.
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW IS WE CAN'T, OR I PERSONALLY, I DON'T GO OUT THAT INTERSECTION BECAUSE IT'S NOT SAFE.
SO I GO DOWN AND DO THE TURNAROUND.
AND IT IS EVEN DIFFICULT WHEN I'M GOING OUT OF OUR SUBDIVISION OF VISTA HEIGHTS ON VISTA HEIGHT, OFF OF VISTA HEIGHTS AND MAKING THAT TURN THE TRAFFIC COMING.
SO ONLY TO IMAGINE 80 HOMES, TWO CARS, A HOME, WHICH IS KIND OF NOT A LOT, THAT'S 160 VEHICLES COMING OUT OF THAT SUBDIVISION AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE EXACTLY IT'S GONNA GO, THE DECELERATION LANE, THE BACKUP OF A HUNDRED OR 40 PEOPLE, OR 30 PEOPLE TRYING TO PULL IN.
'CAUSE I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE AT AT FIVE O'CLOCK WHEN OUR RESIDENTS ARE COMING IN.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SUBDIVISION.
THE OTHER PART IS THERE ARE NOT TWO ENTRANCES OR EXITS OUT OF THAT NEW SUBDIVISION THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH PERSONALLY, I WOULD FIND THAT AS A SAFETY HAZARD.
UM, IF SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN, THEY ONLY HAVE THE ONE EXIT, WHICH WOULD BE THAT FRONT EXIT UNDER REAGAN.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH.
UM, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST OURS, WE HAVE TWO.
IF THERE WOULD BE AN EMERGENCY, WE HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO GET IN AND OUT OF BOTH, BOTH SECTIONS.
I HAVE A, UH, KATIE, UM, PATAR P OR
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31, 21 VISTA HEIGHTS.MY, MY CURSIVE SKILLS WERE OFF TODAY.
KATHY PARTAIN, 31 21 VISTA HEIGHTS.
UM, SO TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON WHAT MY NEIGHBORS HAVE STATED, IT'S NOT SAVED COMING OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I'VE LIVED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR EIGHT YEARS NOW AND I JUST RECENTLY RETIRED AS WELL.
BUT I TYPICALLY GO OUT THE BACK END 2243 BECAUSE IT'S NOT SAFE EXITING THE, THE FRONT PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND EVEN ON THAT SIDE, IT'S NOT SAFE EITHER.
UM, I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN THAT GO OVER ACROSS IN PALM PALMETTO RIDGE TO SCHOOL.
UM, SO TO DITTLE THAT IT IS NOT SAFE, WE BASICALLY SAY A PRAYER WHEN WE'RE COMING OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR TURNING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN A LIGHT, UM, AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT BAR W RANCH, AND THAT IS THREE COUNTIES ARE PAYING FOR THAT $900,000 LIGHT.
WE UNDERSTAND THE LIGHTS ARE EXPENSIVE, BUT WE REALLY WANT ONE BE BEFORE THERE'S A FATALITY.
AND AS FAR AS A DECELERATION LANE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TURN OUR BLINKER ON.
WE CAN TRY TO SLOW THE CARS DOWN BEHIND US, BUT THEY WON'T SLOW DOWN.
THEY'RE FLIPPING THE BIRD, THEY'RE HAWKED AT THEIR HORN.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BLESSED EVERY DAY THAT WE CAN GET TO OUR HOMES.
SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WANNA SAY.
UH, NEXT I HAVE, UH, MICHELLE BONNER.
I AM PART OF REAGAN'S OVERLOOK.
I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE PRE PANDEMIC.
SO I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WATCHING LEANDER GROW.
I THINK THAT ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S COME IN, ALL THE NEW PLACES, RESTAURANTS, ALL THAT THING, FANTASTIC.
I HAVE NO OPPOSITION WITH THIS EITHER, AS FAR AS THEM BEING ABLE TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL HOUSING AND, AND, YOU KNOW, MIXED USE, UM, FOR COMMERCIAL, UM, MEANS.
HOWEVER, I HAVE A TWO YEAR-OLD AT HOME, OKAY? AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHILE YOU MAY LOOK OUT AT OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, UH, CONSTITUENTS HERE, MANY OF US MAY HAVE A BIT OF GRAY HAIR.
ABOUT 30% OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ACTUALLY HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN.
SO I CAN TELL YOU VERY HONESTLY, I'M A SCIENTIST.
I TURN INTO THE FRONT SIDE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AS YOU CAN SEE UP THERE, AS YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE, YOU KNOW, NOBODY SLOWS DOWN EVERYBODY, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE REDUCED SPEED THERE.
EVERYBODY'S RUNNING THROUGH THEIR 55, 60, 65 MILES AN HOUR TO GET UP TO BAR W TO GET UP TO, YOU KNOW, UH, ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS NORTH OF US.
SO WITH THAT, IN COMBINATION WITH MR. ADAMS POINTING OUT THAT IT IS A BLIND HILL THERE COMING THE OTHER DIRECTION, IT'S ABSOLUTELY A NIGHTMARE.
I CON AM CONCERNED EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT I TAKE MY KID HOME FROM DAYCARE AND TURN INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD THE RIGHT OF WAY, TURNING RIGHT INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, INTO THAT INTERSECTION BECAUSE I'M CONVINCED SOMEBODY'S GONNA REAR END ME.
THEN YOU COMBINE THAT WITH THE BACK END OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN OUR SECOND ENTRANCE, WHICH IS ALSO UNSAFE ON 2243.
AGAIN, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED THERE.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S POTENTIALLY GONNA BE CHANGES THERE.
HOWEVER, AT THIS POINT, NOT SAFE.
MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE HAD ACCIDENTS AT BOTH ENTRANCES, AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE POINTED OUT, MULTIPLE.
IN FACT, RECENTLY AS A MONTH OR TWO AGO, SOMEONE ACTUALLY HAD THEIR CAR FLIPPED BECAUSE THEY GOT T-BONED TRYING TO COME OUT OF OUR FRONT ENTRANCE.
SO PLEASE CONSIDER THOSE THINGS.
CONSIDER THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE OF STUDY DONE HERE, POTENTIALLY SOME TYPE OF DECELERATION.
I DID OWE EVERYBODY ELSE THOUGH.
UH, LINDA MEYERS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? NOTHING TO ADD.
AH, I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING TONIGHT.
YOU GUYS SAID YOU HADN'T HEARD OF FROM ENOUGH OF US COMMISSIONERS.
AND SO WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR POINTS GET HEARD.
AND WE HAVE THREE MAIN POINTS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ARE CLEAR.
WE DO NOT OPPOSE THE OAKMONT DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE ENTRANCE AND THE EXIT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.
AND IF THERE IS A FATALITY, IT WILL BE ON LEANDER SHOULDERS BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THAT.
AND I WANT YOU TO WRITE THAT DOWN.
PUT IT IN THE MINUTES, MAKE SURE IT'S HEARD.
IT WILL BE ON THIS COUNTY, THIS, UH, CITY'S SHOULDERS
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IF THERE IS A FATALITY, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME.WE NEED TWO DECELERATION LANES.
WE NEED ONE FOR OUR ENTRANCE BECAUSE IT IS A TERROR, IT'S TERRIFYING TO TRY AND GET INTO OUR DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE NEED ANOTHER DECELERATION.
NATE, AT THE ENTRANCE, THERE WILL BE TWO ENTRANCES FOR THE, UH, OAKMONT DEVELOPMENT.
THE FIRST ONE IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 90 YARDS FROM OUR ENTRANCE.
AND WE'D LIKE A DECELERATION LANE FOR THEM AS WELL, SO THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE CHASED.
LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE, WE KNOW THAT RONALD REAGAN IS NOT GONNA STAY A TWO AND TWO SOUTHBOUND AND NORTHBOUND.
WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE BECOME A FOUR AND FOUR, BUT TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE THAT HEAVY.
SO WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, PREPARE OURSELVES FOR THAT MUCH INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.
'CAUSE THAT ROAD'S GONNA BE WIDENED.
2243 IS GOING TO BECOME A FOUR LANE ROAD AND NOT A TWO LANE ROAD.
THERE'S GONNA BE A NEED FOR A LIGHT THERE.
UM, AND SO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT IS THE BIGGEST ONE AT THAT INTERSECTION.
SECOND BY THE DECELERATION, UH, LANES FOR BOTH THE NEW OAKMONT DEVELOPMENT AND FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS ANY OF THE OTHER POINTS HERE.
AND THEN, UH, NOT WISHING TO SPEAK WOULD BE, UH, MR. JAMES SPITLER, BUT SO THEY'RE GOOD.
I HAVE A, UM, PADMA DEM, UH, ON HIM WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT JUST WANTS TO HAVE THEIR COMMENTS, UH, POSITION, UH, READ INTO THE RECORD, UM, OR AT LEAST HAVE THEIR POSITION.
AND THEN I HAVE A, UH, AMELIA WILLIS, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, WANTS TO POINT OUT THAT THEY ARE AGAINST THIS ITEM AND WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEIR COMMENTS ADDED TO THE RECORD.
AND THEN I HAVE, UH, LINDA BLANCHARD, UH, DO NOT, UH, THEY WANT TO HAVE THEIR COMMENTS SUBMITTED TO THE RECORD AS WELL.
AND I DO NOT SEE A POSITION LISTED HERE, SO, BUT WE WILL ADD THOSE TO THE RECORD.
UH, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? OKAY, IF YOU CAN COME UP, MA'AM.
UM, WHEN YOU'RE DONE, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT A, A COMMENT CARD.
SO SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE.
UH, AND I LIVE AT 200 FLINTLOCK DRIVE IN REAGAN'S OVERLOOK.
UM, BUT I REALLY ECHO EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID BEFORE ABOUT THE DECELERATION LANES.
UM, AND YOU'VE HEARD SOME, UH, VERY GOOD CONCRETE AS WELL AS HEARTSTRING EVIDENCE.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO OFFER ONE MORE HEARTSTRING.
I HAVE A, UH, 15-YEAR-OLD BOY WHO WE'LL BE TURNING 16 SOON.
WE'RE LUCKY THAT WE HAVE AN IB SCHOOL.
SO HE, UH, I AM VERY EXCITED FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE HIMSELF TO A DIFFERENT SCHOOL WITHOUT ME HAVING TO GET HIM THERE AT, UH, 6:30 AM FOR FOOTBALL PRACTICE.
UM, THE 16-YEAR-OLD BOY THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF RULES, A LOT OF THINGS THAT I CAN WORRY ABOUT.
THE ONE THING THAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT, THE ONE THING THAT HE KNOWS, IF HE EVER GOES OUT THE FRONT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HE WILL LOSE HIS LICENSE FOR SIX MONTHS.
LIKE THAT IS HOW TERRIFYING THAT ENTRANCE IS.
UM, 22 4 8 3 IS SCARY TOO, BUT I, I DO NOT WORRY ABOUT HIS LIFE IF HE WERE TO DRIVE ACROSS, UM, DRIVE IT IN OUT A 2243 LIKE I DO IF HE WERE TO GO ACROSS THAT, UM, RONALD REAGAN.
SO I HOPE THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO, TO THINK THROUGH THAT, ESPECIALLY AS WE CONTINUE ALL THE, THE GREAT GROWTH OF LEAN.
UM, BUT JUST WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROTECTING OUR PEOPLE.
PLEASE COME UP TO THE FRONT AND DON'T FORGET TO FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD, UM, WHEN YOU'RE DONE.
THIS JUST YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I LIVE AT 31 0 4 VISTA HEIGHTS DRIVE.
AND I AM NOT IN OPPOSITION TO THE OAKMONT PUD DEVELOPMENT.
I CONCUR WITH ALL OF MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS ABOUT THE NEED FOR IMPROVED INGRESS AND EGRESS INTO THE PROPERTY INTO THE COMMUNITY.
BUT I WILL SAY THIS, I'M SURE THAT MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS CAN AGREE THAT WE'VE HAD TO CREATE OUR OWN DE DESERTER DECELERATION LANE COMING TO RONALD LAKE.
WE HAD TO GO INTO THE EMERGENCY LANE.
MY WIFE, WHEN WE'RE DRIVING AND ENTERING INTO THE COMMUNITY, SHE'S CONCERNED THAT EITHER WE'LL GET HIT ON THE LEFT SIDE OR GO INTO THE DITCH WHERE THE DRAINAGE IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
AND THERE ARE ROCKS ZERO ESCAPE ON THAT, UH, ENTRY P ENTRY PATH GOING INTO THE COMMUNITY.
SHE'S CONCERNED WE'RE GONNA HIT THE ROCK.
WE'RE, SHE'S CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GONNA END UP, UH, FLIPPING THE CAR OVER AT THE SAME TIME, HOPING THAT THERE IS NO ONE THAT'S GONNA CLIP US ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
SEVERAL, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN THERE,
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I'VE BEEN HERE FIVE AND A HALF YEARS, AND I'VE SEEN THE PROGRESSION, EVEN TAKING MY DAUGHTER TO SCHOOL IN THE MORNINGS AND COMING BACK JUST FROM, UH, FROM DURING RUSH HOUR.I MEAN 7:00 AM IN THE MORNING AND WE STILL CAN'T GET ACROSS TO TURN LEFT COMING OUT OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE LIGHT A HERO ONLY CAME AS A RESULT OF MULTIPLE FATALITIES THAT HAPPENED OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL MONTHS, NOT YEARS, MONTHS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE AT SOME POINT, AND IT WON'T BE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SHOW UP AND SAY SOMETHING.
IT IS BECAUSE THAT THERE IS A NEED THAT'S NOT BEING ADDRESSED THAT WE ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON.
SO WE'RE REALLY ENCOURAGING YOU AND IMPLORING YOU TO CONSIDER WHAT WE'RE BRINGING UP.
THE DECELERATION ZONES ARE NECESSARY ON BOTH INTERESTS, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THERE'S SOME CONCERN AND SOME ACTION TAKEN AS A RESULT.
YOU STILL HAD SOME TIME LEFT, SO COME ON UP.
WE KNOW THIS IS GONNA BE EXPENSIVE.
OKAY? SO WE'RE NOT NAIVE ABOUT THAT.
BUT WE ALSO KNOW THERE'S A MAJOR APARTMENT BUILDING THAT IS BEING BUILT ACROSS THE WAY.
THERE'S A TON OF NEW BUILDINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE COMING IN, AND WE KNOW WHAT OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE.
AND SO I BELIEVE THAT WE CERTAINLY ARE PAYING ENOUGH MONEY INTO OUR COUNTY FOR US TO HAVE THIS TRAFFIC LIGHT AND THIS, THESE TWO DECELERATION LANES.
AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA MAKE OUT QUITE WELL WHEN WE START TO GET OUR NEW NEIGHBORS WHO WILL HAVE THE SAME PROPERTY TAX VALUE THAT WE DO POSSIBLY MORE.
AND SO I'M PRETTY SURE YOU'RE GONNA RECOUP YOUR FINANCIAL SPEND OUT.
PLEASE COME UP AND PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD TO SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I LIVE AT 34 13 BRANCH HOLLOW.
SO I THINK THE ONE THING I JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR, 'CAUSE I, AS I HEAR EVERYBODY SPEAK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT REALLY SPEAKING ABOUT OAKMONT.
AND SO I DON'T WANT THE COMMISSION TO BE THINKING, WHY ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE? WE'RE NOT HERE TO DECIDE A LIGHT AT THAT, UM, ENTRANCE.
BUT IT IS BECAUSE OF OAKMONT AND EVERY OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT CONTINUES TO GET APPROVED THAT HAS CAUSED THE SITUATION, RIGHT? BECAUSE FIVE YEARS AGO NOBODY WAS, IT WAS A SMALL ISSUE.
UH, LIKE FRANK, I ALMOST GOT HIT COMING HERE.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S ONE POINT.
UNDERSTAND THAT WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS INTERSECTION, WHICH IS NOT OAKMONT, IT'S BECAUSE OF OAKMONT AND ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT IS CAUSING THIS SITUATION, THIS SITUATION.
UH, ONE OTHER POINT IS IF I WAS TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, AS SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED, COME AND, AND DRIVE THE AREA, IF YOU WERE PICKED ONE PLACE TO PUT A LIGHT, IT WOULD BE WHERE THE BLIND SPOT IS, WHICH IS RIGHT AT THAT ENTRANCE OF PALMERA.
UM, AND, AND REAGAN'S OVERLOOK.
THAT'S WHERE WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THE LEFT, YOU MAKE THAT LEFT NOT KNOWING IF SOMEBODY'S COMING 70 MILES AN HOUR.
YOU SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I'M GARY TY, 28 0 9 VISTA HEIGHTS DRIVE.
UH, LIKE EVERY, I'M, I'M, FIRST OF ALL, EVERYBODY THAT'S OUT OF VISTA OR OFF OF UH, REAGAN'S OVERLOOK, HOW MANY OF US ARE THERE? I MEAN, WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AND I'M SURE IF PALMERA RIDGE KNEW ABOUT THIS, THEY WOULD FILL THIS WHOLE ROOM.
UM, ONE THING THAT NOBODY'S MENTIONED YET IS WITH THE ADDITION OF THESE APARTMENTS, THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE COMING IN AND DOING A U-TURN RIGHT THERE AT OUR INTERSECTION AS WELL.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO ADD TO OUR ISSUE.
SO THERE NEEDS TO BE EGRESS FOR THEM AS WELL.
YOU CAN SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEHALF OF DIANA WAGNER.
TOM, TOM WAGNER, 6 0 1 UNITY DRIVE.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT WASN'T MENTIONED, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THEY SAID.
WE MOVED THERE IN MAY OF 2016.
WE'RE COMING UP ON OUR EIGHT YEAR.
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IS, IT'S GETTING WORSE AND WORSE.THE DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA KEEP GOING ON AND ON AND ON.
THERE IS GONNA BE A FATALITY THERE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, IT'S WORSE THAN BUMPER CARS.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT COOL.
THE OTHER PROBLEM IS WHEN THE LIGHT BACKS UP ON 2243, PEOPLE START USING OUR, THEY START TURNING RIGHT THERE IN, IN THE ENTRANCE, THE BACK ENTRANCE AND COMING THROUGH.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO ACCELERATE THE PROBLEM IN, IN, UH, AT VISTA HEIGHTS IN, IN RONALD REAGAN.
AND SO ANYTIME THERE'S A BACKUP OF FIVE O'CLOCK ON 2243, THEY TURN INTO OUR SUBDIVISION AND IT BECOMES A, I MEAN, IT'S DANGEROUS BECAUSE THEY DON'T GO THROUGH THERE 25, 30 MILES AN HOUR.
THEY COME THROUGH THERE AT 40, 50 MILES AN HOUR IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK THAT HASN'T SPOKEN YET? DO WE HAVE ANOTHER CARD? NO, IT'S FINE.
WITH THAT THEN, UH, AFTER THE, SINCE THE STAFF HAS ALREADY PRESENTED, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP AND SPEAK? AM I FREE TO GO? SWEET.
EVERYBODY HEAR ME FINE? YES SIR, GO AHEAD.
SO MY NAME IS MICHAEL ION, CIVIL ENGINEER, UH, PRESENTING THIS PROJECT ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDES, UM, IT'S ABOUT ROUGHLY 50 ACRES, 80 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, SOME PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, CONDO, AND TRADITIONAL RETAIL COMMERCIAL AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I HEARD ALL THE COMMENTS.
UM, MAJORITY OF THEM HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THE EXISTING PROBLEM AND NOT TO EXASPERATE THAT PROBLEM WITH THIS P SO WE'VE CONSIDERED THOSE COMMENTS IN THE PREVIOUS HEARING, UH, AND WE'VE ADDRESSED THEM.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE, IF ANYTHING, TO SHOW YOU HERE TODAY.
'CAUSE THIS IS A ZONING CASE, NOT NECESSARILY THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, BUT AS, UM, AS ONE PERSON CAME UP HERE AND SAID, WE DO HAVE TWO ENTRANCES AND TWO EXITS.
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ONE OF THEM IS ABOUT A HUNDRED YARDS OR 300 FEET.
AND THAT IS THE SPACING REQUIREMENT FROM TXDOT AND THE TRADITIONAL TRANSPORTATION CODE AWAY FROM THE VISTA RIDGE DRIVE.
SO THAT DRIVEWAY WILL HAVE A DESAL AND AN ACCELERATION LANE.
THEN THE EGRESS EGRESS POINT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL, THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT WILL LIKELY BE REPOSITIONED TO BE IN LINE WITH SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY.
SO ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS HOW WOULD THEY GET THROUGH THE DESAL LANE AND CROSS TWO LANES AND TAKE A U-TURN AT SAN GABRIEL, THAT IS NOT LIKELY TO BE THE CASE.
AND WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY STAFF, THE COUNTY AS WELL.
UM, THAT SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY WILL HAVE TO BE ALIGNED ACROSS THE STREET AND WILL HAVE TO MAKE A DEAL WITH THE ADJACENT OWNER TO OUR NORTH TO BRING A SHARED DRIVEWAY THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY TO CONNECT IN AND MAKE THAT A HARD INTERSECTION.
SO A LOT OF THESE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS REGARDING, UH, EXITING VEHICLES FROM THE TOP OF THE HILL, UM, THE SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY TRAVERSING ACROSS RONALD REAGAN IS NOT LIKELY TO BE THE CASE, AND THIS WILL BE ENFORCED DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN PROCESS.
UM, SO THAT HOPEFULLY ADDRESSED SOME OF THE CONCERNS.
UM, THE OTHER COUPLE ITEMS I HEARD DURING THE MEETING DURING THE COMMENT PERIOD WAS, WHAT'S GONNA BE LEFT WITH THAT EXISTING HIGH L SUM TRAIL? THERE IS NO PLANS TO TOUCH IT AT ALL.
IT'S GONNA LEAVE EXACTLY HOW IT IS IN THE EXISTING CONDITION.
IT'S GONNA ACCESS THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG THE, ALONG THE EAST SIDE, IF I GET THAT CORRECT.
UM, SO THAT'S GONNA BE LEFT COMPLETELY ALONE.
WE'RE NOT IMPACTING THE INTERSECTION OF VISTA HEIGHTS AND, OR VISTA RIDGE, SORRY.
UM, AGAIN, WE'RE 300 FEET DOWN THE HILL WITH A DECELERATION ACCELERATION LANE THAT'S GONNA GET EVERYBODY INTO THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION, WHICH IS THE LOW TRAFFIC PORTION OF THE PROJECT, THE HIGH TRAFFIC, THE RETAIL, AND THE, AND THE COMMERCIAL.
AND THE OFFICE CONDO IS ALL GONNA USE A DRIVEWAY THAT'S LINED UP WITH SAN GABRIEL, AND THAT'S GONNA BE ENFORCED DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PRO PROCESS WITH THE CITY.
UM, HOPEFULLY THAT ADDRESSED SOME
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CONCERNS THERE.UM, ANOTHER THING, ANOTHER THING TO BRING UP IS FOR EVERYBODY THAT HAS SAFETY CONCERNS, THE COUNTY DOES HAVE A PLAN TO ELEVATE THAT ROADWAY AND HAVE FRONTAGE LANES WITHIN THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH ME.
I WAS ABLE TO SNEAKILY GET A SCREEN CLIP OFF THE MEETING, BUT THEY WERE UNABLE TO SHARE ANY PLANS WITH US.
I'M SURE THE CITY HAS MORE KNOWLEDGE ON THIS THAN I DO.
MAYBE ROBIN, MAYBE TALK TO ADMITTED TRUMAN OR SOMEONE ALONG IN THE TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING PORTION OF THE CITY.
UH, BUT YES, THE COUNTY DOES HAVE A PLAN TO ELEVATE THAT ROADWAY.
UM, SO THERE'S GONNA BE HUGE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR, AND THAT'S COMING FROM THE COUNTY.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHEN THAT'S COMING IN.
AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GIMME THAT INFORMATION.
ALL THEY COULD SHARE WAS A SCREEN SHARE DURING A MEETING.
SO, BUT THAT'S HOW WE FOUND OUT, UH, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH THE HIGH LONESOME TRAIL.
SO WHEN THE COUNTY COMES THROUGH AND, AND, UH, IMPROVES THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR, HIGH LONESOME TRAIL IS LIKELY TO BE DEMOLISHED, AND IT'S GONNA TURN INTO A FRONTAGE ROAD, AND THEY'RE GONNA TAKE RIGHT AWAY FROM THIS OAKMONT PROJECT TO PUT IN A FRONT FRONTAGE ROAD.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT THE RIGHT OF WAY IMPACTS TO OTHER PROPERTIES ARE, I'LL LET THEM SPEAK TO THOSE.
BUT YES, UM, THE COUNTY'S GONNA COME THROUGH, ELEVATE THIS ROADWAY, HOW LONESOME TRAIL'S GONNA GO AWAY, AND ALL THE DRIVEWAYS FROM THOSE TWO RESIDENTIAL TRACKS IN THE BACK ARE GONNA CONNECT INTO THE FRONTAGE LANE.
SO AGAIN, THERE'S GONNA BE ELEVATED ROADWAY, FRONTAGE LANE.
I THINK A LOT OF THESE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS GO AWAY DUE TO THE COUNTY'S IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
UM, BUT AGAIN, FOR THIS PROJECT, WE HAVE A DECELERATION LANE, ACCELERATION LANE THAT IS BEYOND THE SPACING REQUIREMENT FROM THE REAGANS OVERLOOK DRIVE.
THEN THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER EGRESS INGRESS POINT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL THAT'LL BE ALIGNED WITH SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE SCENARIO WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF OAKMONT PUD CROSSING TWO LANES AND DOING A U-TURN.
THAT'S NOT GONNA BE THE CASE, AND THAT'S GONNA BE ENFORCED DURING THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT PHASE.
UM, SO I, I THINK I ADDRESS A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? NO, UH, ACTUALLY YOU CAN'T, SIR.
SORRY, THIS IS, UM, YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
PUBLIC COMMENTS OVER, UM, SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE, IT'S REALLY HARD BECAUSE IT'S A SCALED OUT VIEW, BUT THAT IS THE ACCESS POINT, IF I COULD LIKE POINT AT IT, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, UM, THE TOP MIDDLE LEFT OF THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE A DRIVEWAY COMING DOWN OFF THE HILL AND TOUCHING RONALD REAGAN THAT HAS A DESAL LANE ON IT.
UM, THAT ADHERES TO THE SPACING REQUIREMENTS AWAY FROM THE REAGANS OVERLOOK DRIVE, WHICH IS OFF THE SCREEN HERE.
UM, AGAIN, DE CELL LANE ACCELERATION LANE SEPARATE FROM LENON TRAIL HIGH LENON TRAIL IS GONNA BE LEFT OUT EXISTING SO THAT THIS RESIDENTIAL HOUSE, AGAIN, OFF THE SCREEN, CAN HAVE ACCESS UNTIL THE COUNTY COMES IN AND APPROVES THE ROADWAY, WHICH IS PLANNED FOR TWO, THREE YEARS FROM NOW.
AGAIN, THOSE DETAILS ARE NOT PURVIEW TO ME, THEY WOULDN'T DIVULGE, BUT I DO HAVE A SCREEN CLIP OF IT, SO I KNOW IT'S HAPPENING.
UM, AGAIN, THEN THERE'S SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY THAT'S GONNA BE STRAIGHTENED OUT, SHARED WITH THIS ADJACENT PROPERTY, AND IT'S GONNA COME IN AND SHARE OURS.
SO ALL OF THIS COMMERCIAL TRACK TRAFFIC, THE HIGH TRAFFIC PORTION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS LIKELY TO TAKE SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY WITH AND CROSS THE INTERSECTION AT A T RATHER THAN EXIT THIS DRIVEWAY ACROSS TWO LANES AND DO A U-TURN.
UM, CONCEPTUAL PLANS FOR WHAT THESE THINGS ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE.
AGAIN, THIS IS ALL SUPER CONCEPTUAL.
SAME THING WITH THE RETAIL OFFICE, CONDO, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
THIS IS, IT'S GONNA BE VERY HARD FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE, BUT THIS IS THE, THE GRADE DISPARITY ON THE PROJECT, UM, HARDLY APPLICABLE TO THIS CONVERSATION.
THIS IS THE SIDEWALK OUT IN FRONT OF REAGAN'S OVERLOOK.
UH, WE'RE GONNA BE ACCESSING THE PROPERTY OFF THE SCREEN, NOT USING HIGH LSO TRAIL, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE.
AND THOSE ARE THE VIEWS THAT THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WILL HAVE.
AGAIN, NOT, NOT TOO APPLICABLE TO THESE CONCERNS, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
UM, WITH THAT, UH, I WILL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.
SO COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT, MR. CL.
UM, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT.
UM, HEARING WHAT YOU SAID AND HOW Y'ALL SAID IT AND THE WAY YOU CAME TOGETHER MAKES ME PROUD TO BE A RESIDENT HERE.
UM, I LIVE OVER ON THE EAST SIDE OF LEANDER AND, UH, NEAR Y'ALL, AND THERE ARE TWO FOCAL POINTS WHERE I THINK THEY'RE, UH, THAT NEED ATTENTION FROM
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THE CITY IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC.UM, AND, AND ONE OF THOSE TWO IS, IS AT OVERLOOK, REAGAN'S OVERLOOK AND, AND THE MEYER RIDGE AREA, UM, THAT BLIND HILL THAT MR. ADAMS MENTIONED, UM, AGREE WITH IT COMPLETELY AND, UM, HAVE BEEN FRIGHTENED BY THAT MYSELF A COUPLE OF TIMES.
UM, I'M FAIRLY NEW TO THIS COMMISSION, UH, AND, AND I, BUT, BUT I DO KNOW, AT LEAST I THINK, I KNOW THAT I CAN'T REALLY CONDITION APPROVAL OF A ZONING CASE UPON THE INSTALLATION OF A LIGHT, UH, AS MUCH AS I WANT THAT LIGHT THERE.
UM, BUT I MEAN, I'D BE COMPLETELY IN FAVOR OF, UH, OH, AND I APPRECIATE HOW EVERYONE SAID YOU DON'T OBJECT TO THE GROWTH.
UM, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE OF SOME LEVEL ON THIS AREA.
UM, IT, WE'VE GOT SOME, SOUNDS LIKE WE GOT SOME INSIDE INFORMATION FROM, FROM THE COUNTY ON SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT THAT MAY HELP.
UH, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I, I REALLY LIKE THE CITY TO, TO GET SOMEBODY OUT THERE AND HAVE EYES ON THAT.
I THINK LIVING OVER THERE MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN WHAT YOU SEE AND WHAT YOU ENCOUNTER EVERY DAY.
UM, I'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF SPOTS THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, UH, TO, TO, TO THE CITY ON A NUMBER OF TIMES, ADVOCATING FOR SOME, SOME TRAFFIC CHANGES.
AND UNLESS YOU GO OUT THERE AND ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT FOR YOURSELF AT VARIOUS TIMES OF THE DAY, IT'S GETTING WORSE ALL THE TIME.
I MEAN, YOU CAN GO OUT AT WHETHER IT'S 7:00 AM NOON OR 5:00 PM, UM, YOU COULD ENCOUNTER SOME PRETTY SERIOUS TRAFFIC.
UM, THE BIG QUESTION FOR ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS FOR ME WAS HOW HIGH LONESOME WAS GONNA BE IMPACTED UNDER THIS REVISED PLAN.
AND, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS KIND OF ANSWERED THAT.
UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND MR. LUXE, UH, PARTICULARLY WHAT YOU SAID UNDERSCORED THE EFFECT OF THE CUMULATIVE, CUMULATIVE CAUSE OF WHAT YOU'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, PLUS OTHER ONES THAT ARE COMING, ARE ONLY GOING TO EXACERBATE THE NEED FOR, UH, A LIGHT OR AT THE VERY LEAST, SOME KIND OF A TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, AT THAT POINT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I, I LEAN TOWARDS A, A, AN APPROVAL ON THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH A, WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL THAT WE, UH, THAT WE DO ENGAGE IN AT LEAST A, UM, NOT COMPLETELY FAMILIAR WITH THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT AT LEAST A LEVEL ONE OR TWO FROM WHAT I'VE READ.
DID I STEP OUTTA MY LANE? NO, I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT EACH DEVELOPMENT DOES HAVE TO CONSIDER IF THEY NEED A TRA TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
UM, SO THAT WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND AGAIN, LIKE ALL THE THINGS THAT, UM, MIKE MENTIONED, IT'S NOT BEEN REVIEWED, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE REVIEWED, UM, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE OF IT.
TODAY, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT VENUES.
I WAS VERY TOUCHED BY EVERYTHING YOU SAID.
UM, IN MY PAST LIFE, I WAS A DRIVING SAFETY INSTRUCTOR, SO TRUST ME,
SO, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH EVERY SINGLE THING YOU ALL SAID.
I MEAN, WE JUST HAVE TO OWN UP TO WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON.
YOU KNOW, IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
IT IS SCARY, AND YOU HAVE TO PRAY TO JESUS AND HIS FATHER SIMULTANEOUSLY EVERY DAY WHEN YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE STORE.
SO WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE CAN DO A TRAFFIC STUDY, A YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVING TO DIE IN ORDER TO PROVE THE POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR IT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU COMING OUT, YOU KNOW, AFTER WORK OR FIGHTING TO GET HERE,
AND, UM, I, I'M REALLY TAKING ALL THIS TO HEART.
I'M TRYING TO ABSORB ALL THIS, AND I TOOK SO MANY NOTES, BUT I'M REALLY TRYING TO, UM, SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN DO TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE SOMETHING TRAGIC HAPPENS.
SO, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING, AND PLEASE HAVE A SAFE TRIP HOME,
COMMISSIONER MAY, BACK WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE TO LEANER HERO AWAY WAS A TWO LANE ROAD, AND, UH, IT WAS AN ADVENTURE GETTING OUT ON THERE.
THEY EVENTUALLY, UH, WE WERE AT FOUR LANES WITH A TURNING LANE NOW, UM, AND THE SPEED LIMIT'S 45 THERE, AND THEY PUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT ON THE STREET THAT I TURNED IN ON BROAD,
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UH, EVEN WITH THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT AND A 30 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON WEST BRODY, I'LL SAY IT RIGHT THIS TIME,THE PROBLEM ISN'T NECESSARILY THE AMOUNT OF RED LIGHTS AND DECELERATION LANES, IT'S PEOPLE THAT AREN'T FOLLOWING THE LAW AND WANNA DRIVE 70 MILES AN HOUR IN A 45 OR WHATEVER.
UM, BUT SINCE I'VE LIVED HERE, WE'VE HAD THE TWO BIGGEST TOPICS OF CON, UH, UH, OF CONVERSATION HAVE BEEN WATER AND TRAFFIC.
MM-HMM,
AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IN GROWING WITH A CITY IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TAX BASE IN PLACE TO PAY FOR POLICE PROTECTION, FIRE PROTECTION.
WE HAVE TO BUILD ROADS, WE HAVE TO PUT IN WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
ALL THESE THINGS HAVE TO COME AND, UM, YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR 'EM.
AND YOU, YOU KNOW, UM, IF YOUR TAX RATES ARE SO HIGH THAT NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO LIVE THERE, NOBODY MOVES THERE.
SO IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A BALANCING ACT AND, UM, IT'S DIFFICULT WAITING FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, BUT THERE, IT'S NOT THAT THE CITY'S IGNORING THE PROBLEMS, IT'S JUST THAT WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING TODAY.
AND THAT, THAT, THAT'S A BIG CONCERN.
AND I AGREE THAT RONALD REAGAN IS, UH, I, I HAD SELDOM DRIVE RONALD REAGAN UNLESS I HAVE TO GO TO A STORE THAT'S ON RONALD REAGAN.
I'LL GO DOWN 180 3 TO 1431 TO, TO GET THERE.
UM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE, WE'VE HAD HOW MANY TRAFFIC IN STUDIES NOW THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN ON, I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD TWO EVERY FIVE YEARS WE DO THEM.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN OR DID, DID TRAFFIC MASTER PLAN WHERE ALL THESE THINGS ARE REVIEWED, WE JUST ADOPT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND I DO KNOW THAT CITY COUNCIL DOES THAT, BUT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES LISTEN.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE ALWAYS BEEN AN ADVOCATE OF IS EVERY CITIZEN'S RIGHT TO SPEAK AND WE NEED TO SPEAK UP ON ISSUES.
UM, MAINLY BECAUSE, UH, PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND PEOPLE IN THE CITY COUNCIL PLAYING ZONING COMMISSION NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE ISSUES.
IF NOBODY SPEAKS, NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THE PROBLEM.
AND, UM, I THINK YOUR VOICE HAD BEEN HEARD TONIGHT, UH, AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY APPLICABLE TO THIS SPECIFIC ZONING CASE AND, AND IN OUR PURVIEW TO MAKE A CHANGE, YOUR VOICES HAVE BEEN HEARD.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MAY, COMMISSIONER COSGROVE, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT.
UM, I HOPE YOU COME OUT NEXT THURSDAY AND MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENTS BECAUSE I, I, UM, I HAVE GONE AND I'VE SAT THERE AND, AND I, I THINK THAT YOU HAVE RAISED SOME VERY LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS.
UM, YOU NEED TO RAISE THEM WITH YOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
WE NEED TO MAKE A HARD INTERSECTION.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M CHARGED WITH TODAY.
TODAY WE'RE SIMPLY CHARGED WITH, WITH RECOMMENDING TO CITY COUNCIL WHETHER OR NOT THE LAND USE WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THAT SITE.
SO I, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY HERE TO, TO THINK THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS PUD IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LISTENING, IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.
WHETHER THEY, THEY, THEY SEEM LIKE THEY'RE CONNECTED, BUT THEY'RE TWO VERY DISTINCT ISSUES.
UM, AND, AND I, I THINK YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A SYMPATHETIC EAR FROM EVERYBODY ON THIS COMMISSION.
WE, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE EVER HAVING TO LIVE IN FEAR OF LEAVING THEIR OWN SUBDIVISION.
AND, AND I PROMISE YOU, IF WE COULD FIX IT TODAY, WE WOULD.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE CHARGED WITH.
BUT I APP I REALLY DO APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF YOU SPEAKING.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER COSGROVE.
I, I LOVE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, RIGHT? AND, AND I'VE, I'VE SAID THAT BEFORE FROM UP HERE, UH, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TIMES THAT I'VE SAID
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IT WHEN I DIDN'T AGREE WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY WAS SAYING.TONIGHT IS NOT ONE OF THOSE, BY THE WAY.
SO, SO LET ME GET THAT OUTTA THE WAY.
I THINK COMMISSIONER MAY KIND OF TOUCHED ON IT, WE'RE KIND OF IN A CHICKEN AND EGG SITUATION TOO, AS A CITY, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE THE, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY IN THE TAX BASE TO DO SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WE KNOW WE NEED, SO WE NEED TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? MORE DEVELOPMENT? BUT THAT JUST EXACERBATES THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
UH, AND THEN COMMISSIONER COSGROVE JUST SAID IT REALLY WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE AND COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE HERE, YOUR VOICES HAVE BEEN HEARD.
UM, BUT KEEP, KEEP SPEAKING OUT.
WE HAVE AN ELECTION GOING ON THIS YEAR.
THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BRING UP PROBLEMS. WE HAVE 12 CANDIDATES FOR FOUR SPOTS FOR THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL.
LET YOUR VOICES BE HEARD, INVITE 'EM TO AN EVENT OVER IN THE AREA, MAKE 'EM SEE THE ISSUES THAT ARE THERE.
YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO TO HELP KIND OF GET YOUR POINT ACROSS THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL OVER UP HERE AS, AS BEEN SAID.
BUT I DO THINK THERE'S A, A LOT OF GREAT THINGS THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO AS A COMMUNITY AND JUST KEEP SPEAKING AS A COMMUNITY AND, AND THAT IS A VERY POWERFUL THING.
UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT.
UM, AS I WANT TO ECHO THIS SENTIMENT OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, YOU KNOW, THIS COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, THIS IS INCREDIBLE.
I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION FOR A BILL OVER A YEAR NOW, AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST I'VE EVER SEEN ANYBODY COME AND PUBLICLY SPEAK.
UM, AND I GOTTA FACILITATE THAT, AND IT WAS ABSOLUTELY A BLESSING.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT.
UM, I'M VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THIS CAUSE I HAVE FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS THAT, UH, NOT NEIGHBORS, BUT I HAVE FRIENDS THAT LIVE IN REAGAN'S OVERLOOK.
I KNOW THAT AREA VERY, VERY WELL.
I LIVE ON RONALD REAGAN, JUST DOWN SOUTH OF 2243.
I HAVE AN UN TRAFFIC LIGHT, YOU KNOW, UNMANAGED, UH, UH, INTERSECTION WHERE I HAVE TO CROSS AND PLAY FROGGER TO GET OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE OF RONALD REAGAN TO GO SOUTH.
UM, WE DO HAVE, AT LEAST WE DO, AT LEAST WE HAVE A DECELERATION LANE, UH, IN FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT, UH, THERE, THERE'S NOTHING COMING OUT OF IT GOING, YOU KNOW, GOING, RIGHT? UH, AND I HAVE ACTUALLY, EVEN ON THIS COMMISSION HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT.
I KNOW MULTIPLE COMMISSIONERS HAVE MENTIONED AS WELL THAT THE TRAFFIC UP AND DOWN RONALD REAGAN HAS GOTTEN SO BAD THAT, UM, IT'S UNBEARABLE.
AND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE PERMITTING AND THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO APPROVE, AS WELL AS BALANCE THAT WITH THE, THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT RONALD REAGAN NEEDS TO HANDLE THE TRAFFIC FLOW THAT'S COMING UP AND DOWN THAT ROADWAY.
UM, AND SO, UH, I I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN, I, I THINK THIS DEVELOPMENT IS A, IS IS A REALLY GOOD DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK IT HAS, IT'S A NICE BALANCE OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
UM, SO I, AS I ONCE AGAIN ECHO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, TURN DOWN BECAUSE OF LIKE NOT HAVING A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION.
BUT FOR SOMEBODY WHOSE DAUGHTER HAD ONE POINT ATTENDED TARN MIDDLE, UH, TARN ELEMENTARY, AND HAD A, YOU KNOW, CROSSOVER DURING RUSH HOUR, ONCE AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU'RE GOING THROUGH.
UH, I EVEN HAD, UH, A, A NEIGHBOR MENTION AT ONE OF OUR HOA MEETINGS, UH, AND THE CITY CAME AND ACTUALLY SHOWED UP AT ONE OF OUR HOA MEETINGS.
SO THEY ARE RECEPTIVE TO THAT.
SO NEXT TIME YOU HAVE YOUR HOA MEETING, I, I RECOMMEND INVITING A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY TO COME HEAR YOU SPEAK AND TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES.
UH, DURING THAT MEETING, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT SOME SORT OF SOLUTION NEEDS TO BE MADE WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S IN FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING U-TURNS AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE MAKING A U-TURN OR TURNING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO WHEN YOU CROSSING OVER, YOU'RE GETTING HIT.
SO WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY PUT AN ILLEGAL U-TURN THERE.
I THINK IT WAS A KNEE-JERK REACTION, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING FOR US.
'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE STILL MAKING ILLEGAL U-TURN.
IT NOW MAKES IT ILLEGAL, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WAIT UNTIL THAT INTERSECTION'S CLEAR.
UM, I'M JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE DOES A TRAFFIC LIGHT SOLVE THE PROBLEM? HONESTLY, BETWEEN YOU AND ME, I DO THINK A TRAFFIC LIGHT IS A GOOD TEMPORARY SOLUTION THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE ENHANCEMENTS COMING TO RONALD REAGAN AS WELL AS 2243 AND HERO WAY.
THERE'S A LARGE PLAN THAT'S COMING FROM THE COUNTY AND FROM TXDOT WHEN THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
AND AS, UH, AS, AS OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR, UM, UH, GRIFFIN HAS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE TRAFFIC STUDIES UP AND DOWN RONALD REAGAN AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND THERE ARE ENHANCEMENTS COMING IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, BUT ARE THEY HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? NO.
UH, MY SUGGESTION TO THE CITY AND MY SUGGESTION TO YOU IS CERTAINLY, UH, AS MENTIONED BEFORE THERE, THERE IS, THERE IS A, UH, MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH OUR, UM, WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL.
I RECOMMEND Y'ALL ATTEND THAT MEETING AND BRING THIS ISSUE TO THEM AS WELL.
UH, I DO THINK MAYBE A TEMPORARY LIGHT, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY CAN DO THAT, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THEY CAN LOOK INTO.
BUT I DO THINK SOME SORT OF TEMPORARY SIGNAL UNTIL THE SAN GABRIEL SIGNAL IS PUT IN WOULD DEFINITELY MAYBE HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT PRESSURE, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE DANGER THAT IT IS TO CROSS OVER.
UH, OTHERWISE, YEAH, YOU'RE HAVING TO TURN RIGHT AND MAKE THAT U-TURN AT SAN GABRIEL, WHICH YOU PROBABLY STILL BE YOUR SAFEST BET TO GET OUTTA THERE UNLESS THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY DURING LIKE RUSH HOUR.
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YOU KNOW, THEY ALSO LOWERED THE SPEED LIMIT.HAS THAT HELPED? I MEAN, PE PEOPLE STILL DRIVE LIKE A BET OUTTA HELL AND DOWN RONALD REAGAN.
I TRY TO, I TRY TO DO THAT ON MY WAY TO HEB, BUT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE BEHIND ME.
THEY'RE TAILGATING YOU, THEY'RE FLASHING, THEY'RE GOING AROUND YOU BECAUSE THEY WANNA DO 65, 70.
SO THAT HASN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, FIXED ANYTHING.
SO THAT'S WHY I DO AGREE THAT SOME SORT OF TEMPORARY SOLUTION UNTIL THE LONG RANGE PLAN IS PUT IN PLACE.
SO, BUT THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR SHOWING UP.
UM, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM AND SO IT DOES REQUIRE A VOTE FROM COUNCIL.
SO DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
AND COMMISSIONER COSGROVE, A SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I REAL QUICK, YOU NEED TO MAKE TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS.
UM, ONE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
OKAY, LET'S GET BACK TO MY AGENDA HERE.
NO, I'M, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, UM, GET ON BACK.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE COMP PLAN AS WRITTEN IN THE OKAY.
I'LL SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AND THEN THE SECOND MOTION, DO I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION FOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE P.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
WE ARE BACK IN, WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.
IF ALL THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD TAKE THEIR SEATS SO WE CAN GET GOING.
[13. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-24-0106 to amend the Hero Way & Main Street Medical Office PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning districts of LC-2-A (Local Commercial) and GC-2-A (General Commercial) on two (2) parcels of land approximately 8.0822 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R619566 and R619565; and legally described as Lots 1 & 2, Block A of the Hero Way Medical Addition Subdivision, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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ITEM 13 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ZONING CASE C DASH 24 DASH 0 1 0 6 TO AMEND THE HERO WAY AND MAIN STREET MEDICAL OFFICE, PUD WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICTS OF LC TWO A AND GC TWO A, UH, PARCELS AS SHOWN ON THE AGENDA, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOTS ONE AND TWO BLOCK A OF THE HERO WAY MEDICAL EDITION SUBDIVISION STAFF PRESENTATION.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HIT A BUTTON.
GOOD EVENING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE STAFF PRESENTATION IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, UH, ZONING AMENDMENT CASE Z 24 0 1 0 6.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
THAT'S LOCAL COMMERCIAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
UM, THIS IS THE INTENT OF THE REQUEST IS TO START THE PROCESS OF PUTTING IN A DRIVE THROUGH COFFEE SHOP AND A LIQUOR STORE.
THE PROPERTY HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN DEVELOPED AND SUBDIVIDED INTO TWO LOTS.
LOT TWO, UH, IS RIGHT HERE AND CURRENTLY THAT IS A MEDICAL OFFICE.
UM, AND THEN LOT ONE SHOWN HERE IS THE, UM, LOT REFERENCE TO THE ZONING AMENDMENT AND IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF HERE AWAY AND MAIN STREET.
THE SURROUNDING OF THIS PROPERTY INCLUDES A VARIETY OF USES, INCLUDING THE STANDARD LEANDER STATION APARTMENTS TO THE NORTHEAST, THE VILLAGE AT LEANDER STATION TO THE SOUTH, THE CHLOE APARTMENTS TO THE EAST AND THE LEANDER OLD TOWN, EAST TO THE WEST, WHICH INCLUDES BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER, OH, ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER, THERE IS A FLOODWAY AND A CREEK THAT, UH, SEPARATES, UM, RESIDENTIAL ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
THEY DID AN ENSURE TO REACH OUT TO ALL SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES WITHIN A 500 FOOT RADIUS.
AND THEY ALSO DID A DOOR TO DOOR NOTIFICATION OUTREACH WITHIN THE VILLAGE OF LEANDER ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
APPROXIMATELY 18 RESIDENTS WERE REACHED WITHIN THE OUTREACH AND REMAIN IN THE REMAINING RESIDENCE.
WERE SENT CERTIFIED MAIL DETAILING THE INFORMATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE REQUEST.
UH, CONCERNS WERE RAISED BY SOME RESIDENTS ABOUT NOT WANTING A LIQUOR STORE SO CLOSE TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
OTHERS WERE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF COFFEE SHOPS, WHAT KIND, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT KIND IT WAS, WHAT KIND OF LIQUOR STORE, AND WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE A BAR ESTABLISHMENT.
ALTHOUGH THESE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT THE PROPOSAL OF A LIQUOR STORE, UH, THE PROPERTY DOES HAVE A FLOODWAY CREEK BOUNDARY.
UM, AS MENTIONED THAT BUFFERS THE SOUTH SIDE FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY PARCEL, AND IT, UM, IS ALSO COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPOSAL AMEND, UH, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, UH, CHANGED TO GC ZONING IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE OF URBAN MIXED USE.
AND BECAUSE OF THESE FACTORS, STAFF DOES SUPPORT THE REQUEST.
UH, THIS DOES CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION, BUT I WILL BE AVAILABLE AFTERWARDS FOR A QUESTION.
AND ALSO THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT
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FOR QUESTIONS AS WELL, BUT DOES NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION.AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I HAVE, UH, A, A COUPLE OF THINGS I NEED TO READ INTO THE RECORD.
I HAVE A LINDA SMITH AT 2 41 PRAIRIE CHAPEL DRIVE.
SHE IS AGAINST THIS ITEM AND HER COMMENTS WILL GO INTO THE RECORD.
I ALSO HAVE, UM, A CARD FROM TAYLOR HOWE WHO HAS COMMENTS HERE, BUT SAID HE WOULD BE HERE TO SPEAK IS OH, OKAY.
I'M AT TWO 17 PITCHFORK DRIVE.
UM, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSED THE ADDITION OF A FOUR STORY CONDO RIGHT NEXT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, TO THE DETRIMENT OF OUR HOMEOWNERS.
WE WERE TOLD THE PLANS IN PLACE COULD NOT CHANGE.
NOW WE ARE HERE AGAIN, HAVING TO OPPOSE A CHANGE TO THE ZONING, WHICH WOULD AGAIN BE TO THE DETRIMENT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ASK THAT YOU REDEEM YOURSELVES FROM YOUR PAST PLANNING ERRORS BY NOT CHANGING THE ZONING TODAY.
THIS WAS ORIGINALLY TO BE A MEDICAL FACILITY.
THEY ARE NOW WANTING TO PUT IN A DRIVE-THROUGH COFFEE SHOP AND A LIQUOR STORE.
IN ADDITION TO THE ALREADY EXISTING TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT WOULD BE WORSENED BY A DRIVE-THROUGH COFFEE SHOP.
THE LIQUOR STORE WOULD CAUSE A WHOLE SEPARATE LEVEL OF ISSUES.
LIQUOR STORES DO NOT LIMIT CONSUMPTION.
WE HAVE ALL SEEN EMPTY BOTTLES IN THE LIQUOR STORE, PARKING LOTS ILLUSTRATING THAT PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS GO HOME TO CONSUME.
THIS REQUEST IS TO PUT A LIQUOR STORE, ESSENTIALLY RIGHT NEXT TO OUR COMMON AREA WHERE PEOPLE WALK THEIR DOGS AND CHILDREN PLAY ON THEIR OWN AFTER SCHOOL.
A STUDY OUT OF JOHNS HOPKINS, HOPKINS UNIVERSITY FOUND THAT A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AN ALCOHOL OUTLET, AS OPPOSED TO ONE WITHOUT ONE, HAD A 3.3% INCREASE IN VIOLENT CRIMES.
A SEPARATE STUDY OUT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, BERKELEY FOUND THAT WITHIN 0.1 MILES OF LIQUOR STORES, PROPERTY VALUES WERE REDUCED BY UP TO 4%, AND VIOLENT CRIME WENT UP BY 6%.
TWO MORE STUDIES OUTTA THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA.
RIVERSIDE FOUND SIMILAR NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
ONE FOUND A CORRELATION BETWEEN THE DENSITY OF ALCOHOL OUTLETS AND VIOLENT CRIME RATES AMONG TEENS AND YOUNG ADULTS AGED 13 TO 24.
THE SECOND FOUND HIGHER CRIME RATES IN NEIGHBORHOODS WITH LIQUOR STORES THAT A LOT MORE THAN 10% OF THEIR COOLER SPACE FOR SINGLE SERVE CONTAINERS.
THIS ISN'T CALIFORNIA OR MARYLAND, BUT DO WE WANNA WAIT UNTIL THE SAME IS HAPPENING HERE BEFORE WE CONSIDER THE RESULTS OF THESE STUDIES, IS THIS COUNCIL PREPARED TO TAKE OWNERSHIP IN A DECISION THAT WOULD CAUSE INCREASED TRAFFIC ON OUR STREETS? IS THIS COUNCIL PREPARED TO TAKE OWNERSHIP IN A DECISION THAT REDUCES OUR PROPERTY VALUES? IS THIS COUNCIL READY TO TAKE OWNERSHIP IN A DECISION THAT INCREASES CRIME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? IF YOU DO NOT WANT THAT WEIGHT ON YOUR SHOULDERS, I URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTER DISCUSSION.
OH, PARDON? I CAN ANSWER A QUESTION, YOUR HONOR.
OH, WE'LL, WE'LL CALL YOU UP IF IF NEED BE.
YEAH, SO WHEN I SAW THIS, I WAS JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED AT WHY WE'RE DOING THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT I TALKED ABOUT ON AGENDA ITEM 11 OF HAVING, UM, GOING TO A HIGHER ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
AND ACCORDING TO THE PUT NOTES, THEY WANT ANYTHING AVAILABLE WITHIN GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
SO THAT'S, IT WAS ALREADY, IT WAS ALREADY ZONED FOR LOCAL COMMERCIAL.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THE NEED FOR CHANGE UNLESS WE WANTED TO ADD IN SOME ACCEPTABLE USES, WHICH THEN WOULD SPECIFY WHAT THE INTENDED USES ARE.
I KNOW, I KNOW THEY STATED THE INTENDED USE, BUT ONCE WE ALLOW FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL, ANYTHING WITHIN GENERAL COMMERCIAL CAN BE THERE, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT IN THE PUT NOTES AS WELL.
AND SO FOR THAT REASON, IT'S GONNA BE A, UM, A HARD NO FOR ME.
COMMISSIONER COSGROW, I ECHO COMMISSIONER MAIN'S CONCERNS VERY MUCH SO.
COMMISSIONER, MAY I AGREE WITH THEM? OKAY.
YEAH, I, I, I'M IN, I'M IN AGREEMENT THERE.
I DO THINK THAT REZONING THIS TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL WOULD NOT BE THE, THE BEST USE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I MEAN, I CAN SEE, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, I THINK AN LC IS, IS APPROPRIATE, BUT THE GC, UNLESS WE PUT SOME RESTRICTIONS ON IT, I DON'T THINK WOULD BE THE RIGHT FOR THIS, UH, FOR THIS AREA.
COMMISSIONER COLOM, UNLIKE A CASE A FEW WEEKS AGO WHERE I WAS, UH, JUST FINE WITH GC BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF PROXIMITY TO A, TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I'M, I, I'M, I'M WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ONE.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EITHER.
I AGREE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
DO I HEAR A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY.
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SECOND.MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MAHAN TO DENY.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MOSS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, COMMISSIONER CARRIES TO DENY.
[14. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Comprehensive Plan Case CPA-23-0009 to amend the Comprehensive Plan land use category from Multi-Use Corridor to Neighborhood Residential and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-23-0102 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) and Interim SFR-2-B (Single-Family Rural) to SFS-2-B (Single-Family Suburban), GC-3-A (General Commercial), and GC-2-A (General Commercial) on eight (8) parcels of land approximately 234 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R506005, R485247, R485248, R031575, R392187, R392188, R031534, and R031533; and more commonly known as 14750 Ronald W. Reagan Blvd, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE CA CATEGORY FOR MULTI-USE CORRIDOR TO NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z DASH 23 DASH 0 1 0 2 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR ONE B AND INTERIM S FFR TWO B GC THREE A AND GC TWO A ON EIGHT PARCEL BLAND AS SHOWN ON THE AGENDA, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1 4 7 5 0.
STAFF PRESENTATION THANK YOU COMMISSION.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
THE APPLICANT HAS UPDATED THEIR REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING DISTRICT, DISTRICT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH COMMERCIAL USES ALONG RONALD REAGAN BOULEVARD.
AND JUST AS AN UPDATE, UH, THE CPA CASE, UH, WAS AN ERROR ON THE AGENDA.
UH, Y'ALL DID APPROVE THAT LAST MEETING.
UH, SO THIS REQUEST IS SOLELY ON THE ZONING CASE.
UM, SO DURING, DURING THE JANUARY 25TH, 2024 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING ACTION WAS TAKEN ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT CPA DASH 23 DASH 0 0 0 9 TO APPROVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
SO NO ACTION WILL NEED TO BE TAKEN ON THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
UH, THE ORIGINAL ZONING REQUEST WAS DENIED DURING THAT SAME, UH, JANUARY 25TH, UH, 2024 MEETING.
AND IN ORDER TO, UH, COORDINATE THE APPROVED CPA AND ZONING TOGETHER, THE APPLICANT POSTPONED BOTH CASES BEFORE THEY PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL.
UH, THE APPLICANT TOOK THE COMMISSION'S FEEDBACK AND HAS WORKED WITH STAFF ON THEIR OVERALL ZONING PROPOSAL, WHICH NOW INCLUDES GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES ALONG RONALD REAGAN, UH, BOULEVARD CORRIDOR.
AND, UM, AGAIN, JUST TO CLEAR IT UP, SINCE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA, THIS ACTION ITEM IS ONLY FOR THE UPDATED ZONING REQUEST.
UH, SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS HELD, UM, UH, 6:30 PM FEBRUARY 5TH, 2024 AT THE MASON HOMESTEAD.
UH, THIS MEETING WAS TO INCLUDE INFORMATION REGARDING THE APPLICANT'S NEW REQUEST AND NO ADDITIONAL CONCERNS WERE LISTED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE FULL REPORT BY THE APPLICANT IS, UH, UNDER ATTACHMENT NINE.
AND IN CLOSING, UH, STAFF SUPPORTS THIS REQUEST BASED ON THE ADJACENT LAND USES OF RESIDENTIAL AND THE SCHOOL TOWARDS THE EAST ON JOURNEY PARKWAY AND THE TOPOGRAPHY LIMITATIONS FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE.
STAFF HAS RECOGNIZED THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS TRENDING TOWARDS, UH, MORE TOWARDS THE RONALD REAGAN BOULEVARD DEVELOPMENT AND RESIDENTIAL AS YOU MOVE EAST TOWARDS JOURNEY PARKWAY.
UH, IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSAL OF THE 70 FOOT LOTS IS CONSISTENT WITH ORDINANCE 22 DASH 0 3 1 DASH ZERO ZERO WATER RESOLUTION, WHICH PRIOR, UH, PRIORITIZES LOW DENSITY USES, UH, AND, UH, USE COMPONENTS S-F-R-S-F-E AND SFS.
AND ALTHOUGH THE GC COMPONENT IS NOT INTENDED TO BE ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL USES, THE CREEK WILL ACT AS A BUFFER AND LIMIT THE ACCESSIBILITY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THE GC USE COMPONENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE, AND MEETS THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR ALONG PRIORITY CORRIDORS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CASE, AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE AFTER, UH, THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M WITH RIVERSIDE, UH, PART OF THE DEVELOPER TEAM.
AGAIN, I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH TO ADD FROM WHAT JUSTIN SAID.
WE HEARD WHAT YOU SAID LAST TIME.
UH, WE WANT TO CAST A WIDE NET FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG THIS CORRIDOR, AND, UH, WE THINK THIS PROPOSAL DOES THAT.
SO, SO THAT'S, UH, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'LL, I DO HAVE SOME CARDS HERE.
YOU'LL EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM.
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I LIVE IN CABAL RANCH AT 3 1 0 1 PASSA DE CHARLES, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT, UH, TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT BURLESON RANCH DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I BACK UP TO THE LAND, UH, AND, UH, I WAS WANTING, UH, I HAD SEEN ON THE MAP THAT THERE IS, WE HAVE THREE DEAD END STREETS, UH, COMING INTO KABA RANCH.
AND, UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THEM OPENING THOSE, UH, DEAD END STREETS INTO OUR KABA RANCH NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE ADDED TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE COMING THROUGH THERE.
UM, SINCE IT IS, WE'RE IN CEDAR PARK, TEXAS, AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE REPAIR FOR STREETS BECAUSE OF THE ADDED TRAFFIC.
AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, CHILDREN THAT ARE GETTING OFF OF BUSES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN ALL THAT EXTRA TRAFFIC COMING DOWN, THOSE THREE, UH, DEAD END STREETS.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT.
JOANIE WADDLE? UM, I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
UM, SHE IS, UH, FILLED OUT A CARD AGAINST, WE'LL READ IT INTO THE RECORD.
LANNY WADDLE YOUR ONE FOR THREE.
SO, UM, GOT A COUPLE OF PICTURES HERE THAT I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU FIRST.
UM, I'LL START OFF BY, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THE BURLINGTON RANCH.
IT'S, IT'S ON THE, UM, DESKTOP, I BELIEVE.
SO THIS IS A PICTURE FROM ONE OF Y'ALL'S MEETINGS, BUT AT THE VERY BOTTOM, AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE WITH THIS SIZE, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF ARROWS THERE.
AND THOSE ARE THE, YEAH, THE ARROWS ARE WHERE, LIKE LYNETTE WAS TALKING ABOUT, THOSE ARE STREETS THAT ARE COMING FROM THE, THE NEW PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD INTO CABAL RANCH.
AND THEN IF YOU CAN POP UP THE NEXT ONE FOR ME.
AND THEN, SO THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD IS NORTH OF US.
THIS IS FURTHER SOUTH, AND I'VE GOT THREE LITTLE ARROWS THERE TOWARDS THE TOP.
THOSE ARE THOSE THREE STREETS THAT ARE BE CONNECTING TO KE RANCH FROM BURLINGTON RANCH.
UM, SO AS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE, COUNTY ROAD 2 72 OR NEW HOPE IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION BETWEEN RONALD REAGAN AND SAM BASS, CREATING A NEW FOUR-LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY THAT WILL RUN PARALLEL TO EAST WHITE SUN BOULEVARD.
ONCE COMPLETED THIS FALL, NEW HOPE WILL CONNECT SAM BASS WITH HIGHWAY 180 3 AND BEYOND.
NEW HOPE RUNS ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF KABA RANCH NEIGHBORHOOD, AND ONE OF THE TWO ENTRANCES IN THE KABA RANCH.
SO DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, THAT ROAD THAT, UH, YOU SEE THE CORRECT THERE, THAT'S, THAT'S THE NEW HOPE THAT'S BEING, UH, EXPANDED FROM A TWO-LANE, TWO-WAY ROAD TO A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY.
AND IT CONNECTS WITH RONALD REAGAN GOING UP.
AND, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST COUPLE HOURS HERE IS RONALD REAGAN AND SAFETY.
SO OUR CONCERN IS THIS PROPOSED NEW DEVELOPMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE RANCH WILL INCLUDE CONNECTING THREE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS TO THIS NEW NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN INCLUDES AROUND 500 NEW HOMES AND MANY COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES.
THERE'LL BE MANY CARS AND TRUCKS TRAVELING, NEW HOPE AND TURNING DOWN ALAMEDA, UH, CAMINO ALAMEDA, WHICH IS KIND OF THE RED LINE THERE THAT COMES OFF OF NEW HOPE.
AND GOING RIGHT THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, PASSING THROUGH KABA RANCH, THEREFORE BYPASS, PASSING SEVERAL LIGHTS AND ALL THE CONGESTION, RONALD REAGAN.
AND THEN THE MORNINGS, I EXPECT EVERYBODY GO IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, RIGHT BACK THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S SMALLER THAN THIS.
GO AHEAD AND FINISH YOUR SENTENCE.
UM, THIS WILL INCREASE CRAFT, UH, THE SAFETY FOR THE HOMEOWNERS AND CHILDREN.
OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH STREETS WERE NOT REALLY, UH, DESIGNED NOR INTENDED FOR A THOROUGHFARE BETWEEN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
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OKAY.I HAVE, UH, LOOKS LIKE RK INITIALS RK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? YES.
PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS WHEN YOU GET TO THE PODIUM.
UH, I WISH TO BE ANONYMOUS BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE FOURTH AMENDMENT.
SO AS, UM, MY COLLEAGUES MENTIONED, WE HAVE, UM, BIG CONCERN COMING, UM, THE TRAFFIC FROM LEANDER INTO THE SIERRA PARK, WHICH IS
AND, UH, THE BIG CONCERNS ARE, UM, THE SIGNALS ARE NOT MATCHING WITH THE LINDER AND CEDAR PARK.
AND THERE ARE TWO, UH, WHERE IS THAT PICTURE? SORRY.
UM, WE STILL NEED TO USE THAT PICTURE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE PATHWAY, SIR, LIKE WHERE YOU DRAW ON SOME, UH, STREET PARKWAY, THERE IS SOME STREET PARKWAY PICTURE SECOND, YOU HAVE A PICTURE WITH ACTUAL PLANT STREETS.
SO YOU ALREADY HAVE, UM, TWO, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO YEAH, YEAH.
SO, UM, THESE ARE NEW STREETS THAT WILL BE CONNECTED TO RONALD REAGAN.
AND, UH, THOSE, YOU'LL HAVE NEW SIGNALS RIGHT HERE.
AND, UH, THOSE SIGNALS WON'T BE MATCHING WITH THE CEDAR PARK SIGNAL AND THE PEOPLE DEFINITELY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER IS STAYING HERE, THEY'LL DEFINITELY TAKE THIS AND COME THROUGH, UH, KEA RANCH.
THAT WILL BE, UH, DEFINITELY BE HEAVY TRAFFIC ALSO, UM, OUR ROADS ARE NOT BIG ENOUGH, UH, TO TAKE THAT MUCH TRAFFIC, SO THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP SO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HEAR MY CONCERN.
I HAVE, UH, SOME TO READ INTO THE RECORD, WE HAVE GHA, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'LL SAY THIS CORRECTLY, BUT CHANDRA KARIN THAT, UH, IS, UM, AGAINST BILL LAYTON, AGAINST AUSH CARR, UH, AGAINST DAVID SMITH.
AND THESE ADDRESSES WILL GO INTO THE RECORD AGAINST, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CASE? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL ENTER INTO DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER KALAN, I HAVE NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, INITIALLY WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT FORTH, WE WERE CONCERNED WITH THE FACT THAT THERE WASN'T, UH, THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND, AND OR LIGHT COMMERCIAL WASN'T BROUGHT FORTH AS PART OF A FULL COMPREHENSIVE APPROVAL FOR ZONING.
UM, I THINK EVEN IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT THIS IS CERTAINLY THE RIGHT DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS AREA, GIVEN THAT YOU'VE GOT A MIDDLE SCHOOL AND A LARGE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT'LL BE SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL, ONCE AGAIN, MAKES, MAKES GOOD SENSE.
I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, AS, UH, JUSTIN MENTIONED EARLIER, WE, WE, WE, WE HAD ALREADY APPROVED THE, THE CHANGE TO NEIGHBORHOOD VERSUS MULTI-USE.
SO I THINK THAT WAS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, APPROVED.
UM, I, I DO UNDERSTAND THE CON THE CONCERNS FROM THE RESIDENTS.
AND SO I KINDA WANNA ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS A DAUGHTER THAT GOES TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, I KNOW THE TRAFFIC.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I POINTED OUT VERY CLEARLY IN THE LAST MEETING ON THE 25TH WAS THAT, THAT THE TRAFFIC ON RONALD REAGAN AND THE, THE 580 HOMES THAT WE GOING IN HERE SUBSEQUENTLY IS GONNA, YOU KNOW, IS GONNA CREATE EVEN MORE, UH, UP AND DOWN JOURNEY AND UP AND DOWN RONALD REAGAN.
UM, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA CUT THROUGH KEO RANCH TO GET THROUGH THERE.
I, I KNOW I WOULDN'T, BUT NONETHELESS, IT CERTAINLY IS A CONCERN WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, MY MY MAIN POINT THAT I WANT MAKE HERE, AND I CERTAINLY HOPE THE COMMISSIONERS ECHO AND THE COUNCIL WILL LOOK AT AND, AND, AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL LOOK AT ONCE THIS DOES GET PLOTTED OUT AND KIND OF SEE WHERE IT'S GONNA GO, IS THAT, THAT THERE'S A ROAD NETWORK THAT ENHANCES THE TRAFFIC FLOW IN AND AROUND THESE COMMUNITIES, UH, AND LIMITS SOME OF THE IMPACT THAT COULD HAVE TO SURROUNDING AREAS.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, GETTING IN AND OUT OF LIKE STYLES, FOR INSTANCE, IS A NIGHTMARE ON JOURNEY JOURNEY, UH, BY ITSELF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE COMING UP AND DOWN THE ROADWAY, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A SCHOOL ZONE AND, UH, LOWER SPEED LIMITS TRYING TO TURN OUT OF THERE, TURNING
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LEFT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE.AND SO PEOPLE HAVE TO CROSS OVER PLAY FROGGER.
IT'S, IT IS, IT IS CUTTHROAT GETTING OUTTA THERE, TRUST ME.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND ROADS.
AND SO I DO THINK THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS A CHANCE TO IMPROVE THAT IF IT'S DONE RIGHT.
AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT POINT.
WELL, WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT ROADWAYS TODAY AND TRAFFIC.
UM, MY ONLY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN KEEP EVERYBODY AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE.
NOW WE ALL KNOW WE'RE REAL AS PEOPLE ARE GONNA SPEED, THEY'RE GONNA BE IN A HURRY, THEY'RE GONNA DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
BUT, UM, AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSION, IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE DO OUR PART AS FAR AS MAKING SURE WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT MEASURES IN THERE THAT'S GONNA, UH, KEEP, YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SAFE.
MAY I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR ROBIN ON THIS? UM, IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE THERE'S BEEN CONNECTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE'VE PUT IN CRASH GATES VERSUS THROUGH FARES.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S APPLICABLE IN THIS SCENARIO.
I, I KNOW WE HAVE TO GET FIRE TRUCKS IN AND OUT, WE HAVE TO GET AMBULANCES IN AND OUT, UH, OBVIOUSLY THINGS ALONG THAT LINE, SO YOU CAN'T BLOCK OFF EVERYTHING.
BUT IT, IT IS, IS IT, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THERE WAS TEXAS LAW OR SOMETHING THAT REQUIRED SOME OF THIS.
SO OUR, OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REQUIRES A CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN SUBDIVISIONS, UM, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE LOOK AT DURING THE PRELIMINARY PLATTING PHASE.
SO WE WOULD, WE WOULDN'T BE ADDRESSING THAT IN THE ACTUAL ZONING CASE.
THAT WOULDN'T BE PART OF ZONING.
WE HAVE TO HAVE EVALUATION FROM ENGINEERING AND FIRE.
COMMISSIONER COSGROVE? NO, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY.
SO I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE JANUARY CASE JUST TO SEE, AND, AND, UM, THE VICE CHAIR WAS RIGHT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL PORTION, ESPECIALLY THE, THE PIECE THAT STUCK OUT ONTO JOURNEY PARKWAY.
WE DEFINITELY DIDN'T WANT, YOU KNOW, GC ALONG THE, ALONG THAT CORRIDOR AS WELL AS ALONG THE, THE, UM, REAGAN BOULEVARD.
AND I THINK THEY'VE COME BACK AND DONE A GREAT JOB.
AS FAR AS THE CONNECTIVITY GOES, I MEAN, I, I KNOW THAT'S NOT A PART OF ZONING, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD, THAT WE SHOULD, IF WE WANTED TO, UH, ADD IN THE CRASH GATE PIECE INTO THE PUD NOTES, WHICH WOULD BE A PART OF THE ZONE.
THIS IS, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.
SO IT'S AN ACTION ITEM, MOTION TO APPROVE.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER COSGROVE AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KALO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASS THIS UNANIMOUSLY.
[15. Discussion regarding the Comprehensive Plan Implementation Schedule and Old Town Master Plan Implementation, and consider action on recommendations from the Planning & Zoning Commission for the FY 2024/2025 City Budget and CIP Plan. ]
NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.ITEM 15, DISCUSSION REGARDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT SCHEDULE AND OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN IMPLEMENTATION.
AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 24 25 CITY BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN STAFF PRESENTATION.
SO YOU'VE HEARD THIS TWICE ALREADY.
I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
IT'S JUST, UM, COMING FORTH FOR ACTION THIS TIME.
UM, WE DID INCLUDE A LIST IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY WITH, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU GUYS MADE.
UM, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE CAPTURED EVERYTHING.
DID YOU WANT ME TO READ THROUGH THEM OR DO NO, WE'RE GOOD.
UH, THIS IS, UH, I BELIEVE THE ONLY COMMISSIONER THAT WAS NOT HERE WAS COMMISSIONER OLIVER.
AND WE CAME UP WITH, UH, A LIST UNDER RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD ONE THING ON THE REGULAR BUDGET AND THEN SEVEN ITEMS ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
AND, AND WHAT I WOULD ADD IS, BECAUSE WE, WE MENTIONED SIDEWALKS, WE MENTIONED TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
PERHAPS AFTER EVERYTHING WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT ABOUT THAT REAGAN COURT, OR MAYBE WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE, YOU KNOW, UH, A RECOMMENDATION IN THE CIP BUDGET.
WE, WE'VE ALREADY GOT, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND TURN LANES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BUT DOES ANYONE WANT TO ADD TO THAT OR, OR MODIFY THAT RECOMMENDATION? I, I CAN, UM, LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON A STUDY ON RONALD REAGAN.
AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT A PROJECT, I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS THAT MIKE THEON WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT I KNOW THEY DO HAVE PLANS COMING FORWARD AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ACQUIRING
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RIGHT OF WAY.SO THAT MIGHT BE ONE THAT'S ALREADY BEING ADDRESSED.
UM, WELL I'LL JUST START DOWN AT THE END.
IF ANYONE WANTS TO ADD, MODIFY, OR DELETE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CAME UP WITH LAST TIME, I'LL START DOWN WITH COMMISSIONER KLUM THIS TIME.
NO, I HAVE NO ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS.
YEAH, I MEAN, JUST BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY AT LEAST TAKE ACTION TO PUT A TEMPORARY, YOU KNOW, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE AT PALMERO RIDGE AND REAGAN'S OVERLOOK THAT WOULD THEN EVENTUALLY BE REMOVED ONCE, UH, FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE THAT ARE PLANNED.
CAN THEY DO THAT? CAN THEY INSTALL TEMPORARY TRAFFIC? IT HAS TO BE REVIEWED BY ENGINEERING AND MAKE SURE IT'S, IT'S WARRANTED.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING I KNOW THEY'RE AWARE OF.
COMMISSIONER MOSS, I'D LIKE TO SECOND WITH DEVICE, UH, JUST SAYING I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, SEE IF, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE DONE, UH, WITH THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
COMMISSIONER COSGROVE, I'M PLEASED AS PUNCH WITH THAT LIST.
SO, UM, WE NEED A MOTION AND THAT IF, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO INCLUDE, UM, COMMISSIONER OLIVER'S ADDITION, NEED A MOTION? YEAH, I MEAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ADD TRAFFIC SIGNAL TO THE INTERSECTION OF RONALD REAGAN AND PALMERA RIDGE SLASH WAS THAT VISTA OAKS AND REAGANS OVERLOOK VISTA HEIGHTS.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER UH, OLIVER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KALO TO GO WITH HIS LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PACKET, PLUS THE INSTALLATION OF, UH, A TEMPORARY TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT RE, RONALD REAGAN AND VISTA HEIGHTS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OPPOSED MOTIONS UNANIMOUS.
[16. Receive a presentation regarding updates to the Park Land Dedication, Park Improvement, and Park Land Fee-in-Lieu regulations and requirements]
ITEM NUMBER 16, RECEIVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING UPDATES TO THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, PARK IMPROVEMENT AND PARK LAND FEE IN REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS STAFF PRESENTATION.GOOD EVENING CHAIR LANTRIP, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
I'M DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THIS EVENING.
UM, WE CAME TO YOU LAST YEAR IN A WORKSHOP, UM, LATE SUMMER TO SHARE POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES TO ARTICLE FOUR OF LEANER CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES, IN PARTICULAR SECTION 61 PARKLAND DEDICATION AND PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
SINCE THAT TIME, STAFF HAVE HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY DURING THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS RESEARCHING, DISCUSSING WITH EXPERTS AND RE REA REANALYZING OUR LAST UPDATE FROM ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO WHEN, WHEN THE, THE ENTIRE SECTION WAS UPDATED AT THAT POINT, WE APPRECIATED THIS COMMISSION AND OTHERS INPUT.
LAST YEAR AS WE DETERMINED, UH, THERE WERE STILL A COUPLE OF GAPS AND WE BELIEVE WE HAVE CLOSED THOSE GAPS AND ARE PROVIDING A SOLID PLAN IN MOVING FORWARD.
CREDIT NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED TO MAYOR LYLE AND THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FORMULATING A COUNCIL PARKLAND DEDICATION SUBCOMMITTEE LAST FALL.
THE SUBCOMMITTEE COMPRISED OF COUNCILMAN THOMPSON, COUNCILMAN SNICK AND MCDONALD HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN PROVIDING GUIDANCE AND RECOMMENDATIONS OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST FEW MONTHS.
ADDITIONAL CREDIT IS GIVEN TO THELANDER PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AND THE HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, GREATER AUSTIN, WHOM WE MET WITH LAST MONTH FOR THEIR INPUT AS WELL.
WE BELIEVE PARK LAND IS AN ESSENTIAL CITY SERVICE THAT AFFORDS WELL-DOCUMENTED ECONOMIC, RECREATIONAL, PHYSICAL, SOCIAL, AND MENTAL BENEFITS TO ITS USERS.
PARKLAND DEDICATION IS A CRITICAL TOOL THAT ASSISTS THE CITY OF LEANDER AND DOZENS OF OTHER CITIES, ACTUALLY, LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND MANY OTHER STATES IN PROVIDING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE NEEDED TO PROVIDE PARKS AND FACILITIES AS OUR POPULATION GROWS, AS THE NEEDS OR DEMANDS INCREASE, AND TO RELIEVE THE STRAIN ON THE OVERALL PARK SYSTEM.
ONE OF THE MAIN GOALS OF THE 2019 PARKS, RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TO HAVE ALL LEANDER RESIDENTS WITHIN A 10 MINUTE WALK OF A PUBLIC PARKLAND SPACE THROUGH REDUCING DEFICIENT PARK AREAS AND INCREASING PARK FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN A HIGH PRIORITY WITH RESIDENTS AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
OUR GOAL THROUGH THIS WORKSHOP PRESENTATION IS TO PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK FOR AN UPDATED ORDINANCE TO MEET THOSE CHALLENGES,
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BE LEGALLY COMPLIANT AND REMAIN DEVELOPER CONSCIOUS IN THE CITY OF LEANDER.I WALK, I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE ANTICIPATED CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE, AND THEN I'LL SHARE AT THE VERY END THE NEXT STEPS.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA BEGIN THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AT THIS POINT.
UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO LOOK AT BOTH.
I TRY TO FOCUS ON THE FRONT HERE, UM, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE, TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
THE LEFT SIDE YOU'RE GONNA USUALLY FIND IS WHAT THE CURRENT LEAN OR OR ORDINANCE STATES.
I'M GONNA MOVE OVER JUST A LITTLE BIT AND THEN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PROPOSING.
SO LOCAL GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY IS, IS ALWAYS CRITICAL AND WE DO HAVE A SEMBLANCE OF, OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY, AS YOU CAN SEE IN OUR ORDINANCE SECTION 61.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT PROPOSING TO BEEF THAT UP.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THERE, WE'RE GONNA ADD ON PA PAGE ONE, PARAGRAPH ONE, AND IS DETERMINED TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY BY ADVANCING THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE IN A FAIR, REASONABLE, AND UNIFORM METHOD OF FINANCING DOES NOT IMPOSE AN UNFAIR BURDEN ON NEW OR EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.
THAT WAS ONE OF OUR KEY GOALS WHEN WE MET WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE.
UH, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS FAIR AND, UH, DIDN'T IMPOSE AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON, ON THOSE.
AND YET IT WAS, UH, EASY AND, UH, TO, AND FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD TO UNDERSTAND.
AND SO I THINK WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT OF THOSE GOALS.
UH, AND THE NEXT THING WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD IS THE REQUIREMENTS CONSTITUTE THE IMPACT OF NEW DWELLING UNITS ON THE PARK AND RECREATION SYSTEM AND ENSURE THAT THEY BEAR THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE COST OF PROVO PROVIDING PARKS AND RECREATION RELATED FACILITIES TO MEET THE NEEDS CREATED BY THE RESPECTIVE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT REALLY NEED TO BE BROUGHT OUT AND CLEAR WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, MEETING WITH EXPERTS IN THE FIELD.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THROUGHOUT CURES GONNA SEE THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION THAT THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE SHARE IN OUR NEW ORDINANCE OR REVISED ORDINANCE.
THE NEXT IS, IS REALLY CRITICAL.
UM, THAT TERM PROPORTIONATE IS NOT USED IN OUR CURRENT LANGUAGE AND THAT WAS A KEY FACTOR FOR SOME OF THOSE WHO ARE REVIEWING THIS.
SO WE'VE ADDED SOME INFORMATION SET AND AS WE LOOK AT ON SOME OF THOSE AREAS, AS SUCH, THE PARK FEE IS ADDITIONAL AND SUPPLEMENTAL TO, AND NOT A SUBSTITUTION OF ONSITE CIVIC SPACE REQUIREMENTS REQUIRED BY CITY'S MUNICIPAL CODE, OR IT COULD BE CIVIC CODE.
WE MAY HAVE A CHANGE OF WORDING THERE, BUT WE'LL GET THAT WHEN WE, UH, PRESENT THE OFFICIAL, UM, DOCUMENT TO YOU, UH, IN ANOTHER COUPLE WEEKS, SPECIFIC PLANS OR ANY OTHER PLANNING DOCUMENT.
AND THEN THE NEXT IS WE'RE GONNA MOVE UP, UH, SOME LANGUAGE IN THE, THE, THE CURRENT DOCUMENT, THE DEDICATION REQUIREMENT IS RESTRICTED TO THE ACQUISITION AND IMPROVEMENT OF PARKS AND CANNOT BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE OR OPERATIONS OF THE PARK SYSTEM.
NOW THAT'S A CRITICAL, CRITICAL POINT BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME TRENDS OUT THERE WHERE SOME CITIES ARE USING THESE FUNDS, NOT SO MUCH TO HIRE STAFF.
WE WOULDN'T DO THAT TO OPERATE OR, OR MAINTAIN THOSE PARKS, BUT THERE IS SOME GRAY AREAS ON WHAT IS CONSIDERED MAINTENANCE.
AND I, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NOT WANT THIS TO BE USED FOR, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UPGRADING OR PAINTING THE BLOOD.
SO BATHHOUSE IN, IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT TO USE FOR REGULAR MAINTENANCE.
WE HAVE A BUDGET THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVES AND WE GO TO THEM AND WE ASK THEM FOR THOSE DOLLARS TO HELP US MAINTAIN PARTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
THIS, THIS MONEY IS REALLY DESIGNED TO HELP US IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF OUR PARTS OR ADD NEW PARTS AND THE ACQUISITION OF LAND FOR NEW PARKS.
WE HAVE AN EXISTING LEVEL OF SERVICE GOAL.
THIS IS ALSO VERY CRITICAL AS AS WE MOVE, MOVE FORWARD.
AND, UH, I SHARE THIS WITH YOU BECAUSE THAT 63.7 DUS THAT YOU SEE THERE IS, IS, IS ESSENTIAL AS WE MOVE INTO OUR, OUR FIGURING FOR FEE AND LU AND PARKLAND, UM, PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
TECHNICALLY AT THIS POINT WE HAVE AROUND 431 ACRES OF PARKLAND IN OUR CITY.
OBVIOUSLY WE COME UP WITH ABOUT 4.7 ACRES PER THOUSAND RESIDENTS.
UM, IT THAT IS NOT ONLY QUITE LOW NATIONALLY, IT'S QUITE LOW LOCALLY.
UM, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE COMPLETED STUDIES AND I HAVE THIS RIGHT HERE THAT I CAN, I CAN SEND OBVIOUSLY, UH, FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, CEDAR PARK, OUR NEIGHBOR JUST TO THE SOUTH, THEY HAVE ALMOST, WELL 17, A LITTLE OVER 17 AND A HALF ACRES PER THOUSAND RESIDENTS.
AND LET ME REMIND YOU, WE'RE AT 4.78, JUST LESS THAN FIVE ACRES PER RESIDENT.
GEORGETOWN IS AT 14.3 ACRES PER THOUSAND RESIDENTS.
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ACTUALLY OVER 23, UH, 23.61 ACRES PER THOUSAND RESIDENTS ARE ROUND, ROTTEN.THEY'RE AT 5.3 ACRES PER THOUSAND RESIDENTS, BUT THEY'RE GROWING AND THEY ARE ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL PARK LAND AS WELL.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A CRITICAL POINT TO, TO KNOW THAT WE, AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW FASTLY, OUR NUMBER OF PARK AREA ACRES ARE NOT GROWING IN, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH THE MOST WIDELY ADOPTED UNIT OF MEASUREMENT FOR ESTABLISHING AN EXISTING LEVEL OF SERVICE IS THE NUMBER OF DU PER ACRE OF PARKLAND.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE NATIONAL LEVEL IS 27.44 DUS PER ACRE.
UM, AND SO WE'RE AT 63.72 DUS PER ACRE GEOGRAPHIC NEXUS.
UH, WE DO NOT HAVE A GEOGRAPHIC NEXUS WITHIN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.
UH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING A A GEOGRAPHIC NEXUS, AND THAT MEANS THAT FEES MUST SERVICE THE DISTRICT AREA IN WHICH THE DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED.
HOWEVER, FEES MAY BE USED WITHIN AN ADJACENT, UH, SERVICE AREA IF THE PROJECT, UH, IS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AND WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE SERVICE AREA WHERE THE FEES WERE COLLECTED.
A COMMUNITY PARK IF WITHIN ONE AND A HALF MILES OF THE SERVICE AREA OR A REGIONAL PARK IF WITHIN THREE MILES OF THE SERVICE AREA.
NOW, WHAT IS A SERVICE AREA? I'M GETTING READY TO SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF SLIDES.
UM, THIS IS HOW WE HAVE LOOKED AT BREAKING OUR GEOGRAPHIC NEXUS.
WE DO NOT, WE, IF SOMEBODY ON, UH, AS FAR AS, FOR EXAMPLE, TRIVIO, THEY WERE ADDING ANOTHER THOUSAND HOMES THAT PARKLAND DEDICATION COULD BE USED ALL THE WAY OVER.
THOSE DOLLARS COULD BE USED ALL THE WAY OVER ON, ON THE RONALD REAGAN CORRIDOR, FOR EXAMPLE, OR VICE VERSA.
UM, AND SO IT WAS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO US BY EXPERTS THAT WE LOOK AT A GEOGRAPHIC NEXUS AND WE BREAK OUR CITY INTO CERTAIN ZONES.
AND THAT WHAT WE'VE DONE, WE'VE LOOKED AT THREE ZONES HERE, OR WE'VE BEEN TAKEN FOUR ZONES INTO CONSIDERATION.
WE ARE, WE WILL BE PROPOSING THREE ZONES RATHER THAN THE FOUR.
UM, BUT WE WANTED YOU TO SHOW, SHARE THAT, UM, AND SHOW THAT, UH, WE DID CONSIDER A FOURTH ZONE.
THAT ZONE C ON THE VERY SOUTHERN END IS QUITE FULL, UH, IS NOT A WHOLE LOT OF ACTUAL LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT HAPPEN IN ZONE C.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE A LOT OF LITTLE PARK AREA POCKET AREAS THAT WE COULD PLACE SOME PARKS IN, IN ZONE C, BUT, BUT BY COMBINING ZONE B AND ZONE C AS YOU SEE IN THIS MAP, UM, WE CAN BE ABLE TO USE IN THAT WHOLE GENERAL DISTRICT AS WE FEEL.
SO I'M GONNA GO BACK AND SHOW YOU ZONE A.
YOU CAN SEE ZONE A'S PRIMARILY THE, THAT WEST OF 180 3 A.
IS THAT ON HERE? IS THE LIGHT.
SO THIS IS OUR FUTURE SAN GABRIEL PARK.
YOU CAN SEE 180 3 A RUNNING ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE.
UM, THIS IS, UH, SOUTHWEST REGIONAL PARK, UH, EXCUSE ME, THAT'S SOUTHWEST REGIONAL PARK.
UH, GARY PARK, SOUTHWEST REGIONAL PARK.
THAT'S LAKEWOOD PARK, UH, SAN GABRIEL PARK.
AND THEN WE HAVE SOME TRAILS AT OAK CREEK AND, UH, BENBROOK PARK AREA, DIVINE LAKE COMING DOWN THE BLOOD.
SO, AND THEN THIS IS THE GOLF COURSE OUT IN HERE AS WELL.
SO YOU CAN SEE WE'VE, WE'VE PUT IN THROUGH OUR GIS DEPARTMENT.
UM, THE VARIOUS PARKS THAT ARE ARE LOCATED, YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEE THERE'S A NUMBER OF AREAS THAT ARE LITERALLY BLANK AND THERE'S JUST NO PUBLIC PARKS AT ALL.
WE HAVE A LOT OF ROOM FOR EXPANSION, A LOT OF ROOM FOR GROWTH.
UM, BUT PARKLAND IS DISAPPEARING, AS WE JUST HEARD IN, UH, A PREVIOUS, UH, UH, UH, REVIEW OF A PROPERTY JUST A LITTLE BIT AGO.
YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE AREAS THAT ARE, ARE GOING AWAY QUICKLY AND WE'RE NOT PRESUMING PRESERVING ENOUGH PARKS.
SO PART OF OUR, UH, REASON FOR COMING TO YOU AND, AND BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO OUR CITY COUNCIL AS WELL, WILL BE TO ADD ADDITIONAL PARKS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS AND FUTURE RESIDENTS.
MINIMUM SIZE OF LAND REQUIRED.
CURRENTLY WE'RE AT THREE ACRES AND SIZE.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT PROPOSING GOING FROM THREE ACRES OF SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES OF DEDICATED LAND SHALL FORM A SINGLE, UH, PARCEL OR TRACK OF LAND, AT LEAST SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES IN SIZE.
UNLESS WE LOOK AT IT AND WE SAY THAT MORE THAN ONE TRACK WOULD BE NECESSARY OR MULTIPLE SMALLER TRACKS WOULD BE IN THE BEST PUBLIC INTEREST.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'LL SEE IN THERE AS WELL.
UH, STANDARDS FOR, UH, UH, FOR LAND ACCEPTANCE.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE QUITE A FEW STANDARDS.
UH, 50% OF THE PERIMETER BOUNDARY OF THE PARK IS WITH STREET
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FRONTAGE, OR IS SUPPOSED TO BE WITH FREE STREET FRONTAGE, UH, REASONABLY LOCATED NEAR THE GEOGRAPHIC CENTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT.AND THEN YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE OTHERS THERE.
HOWEVER, WE ARE LOOKING AT CHANGING OR LOOKING AT KEEPING ALL OF THE CURRENT FOR THE MOST PART.
HOWEVER, WE FEEL LIKE CHANGING 50% TO 25% IS ESSENTIAL.
MOST DEVELOPMENTS FIND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PUT IN 50% STREET FRONTAGE.
IF YOU HAVE AN, UH, UH, AN A MILE OF PROPERTY AROUND YOUR PARK OR HALF A MILE TO GET TO THAT, THAT STANDARD OF 50%, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.
SO REDUCING THAT AMOUNT WILL HELP THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
AND THEN IN INSTEAD OF THE GEOGRAPHIC CENTER, WE'RE LOOKING AT LOCATED WITHIN A CONVENIENT DISTANCE FROM A MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS.
WE DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT'S TUCKED WAY FAR AWAY, BUT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ACCESSED BY KIDS ON BIKES AND PEOPLE, UH, WALKING OR WALKING THEIR DOGS AND SO FORTH LIKE THAT.
SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY.
SO THIS IS WHERE THESE ARE, THIS IS A CRITICAL ASPECT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT OUR FEE AND LIE.
THESE ARE A COUPLE OF THE CRITICAL COMPONENTS OF, OF HOW WE LOOK AT IT.
AND WE'VE NOT DONE THIS PORTION IN OUR CURRENT, UM, ORDINANCE AT ALL.
SO WE DO NOT IDENTIFY OR INCLUDE THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, UM, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A FAIR MARKET VALUE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WAS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO US THAT WE UTILIZE THE FAIR MARKET APPRAISAL METHOD.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING, UH, HAVING A DEVELOPER OBTAIN A TEXAS APPRAISER LICENSE CERTIFICATION BOARD APPROVED CERTIFIER, CERTIFIED GENERAL APPRAISER IN GOOD STANDING, UH, WITH THE NATIONAL REGISTRIES LIST OF CERTIFIED AND LICENSED APPRAISERS TO APPRAISE THE PROPERTY.
THE AMOUNT OF SUCH PAYMENT SHALL BE BASED UPON THE MARKET VALUE OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION IN ITS TY AS FULLY DEVELOPED WITH ALL ATTENDED INFRASTRUCTURE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAND APPROVED FOR THE SUBDIVISION.
LAND PRICE REFLECTS THE FAIR MARKET VALUE AT THE TIME IT IS PLATTED, NOT WHEN IT WAS PURCHASED.
SOME OF THE, SOME OF THESE AREAS COULD HAVE BEEN PURCHASED 10 OR 15 OR 20 YEARS AGO, BUT IT'S THE, AT IT, IT IS GONNA BE, UM, APPRAISED AT THE TIME.
SO OUR FEE IN LIEU ESTABLISHED, YOU CAN SEE THAT SOMEWHERE 10 YEARS AGO, $1,050 PER DDU WAS, UH, ARBITRARILY OR POTENTIALLY ARBITRARILY, UH, ASSIGNED.
WE HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING OUT HOW THAT WAS DEVELOPED.
I'M SURE THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND IT AND RATHER THAN JUST PICKING IT OUT OF THIN AIR.
BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THAT WAS A PROBLEM FOR SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT WE TALKED WITH, UH, WHO ARE EXPERTS NATIONALLY IN PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND SO OUR PROPOSED IS THE FEE AND LOSE SHOULD BE FAVORED OVER THE DEDICATION OF PARKLAND.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE TREND THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.
WE SAW WHERE MAYBE 10 OR 15, 20 YEARS AGO, PARKLAND DEDICATION WAS MORE FOR LET'S, LET'S DEVELOP WITHIN THE SUBDIVISIONS, LET'S DEVELOP THOSE LITTLE PARKS AND SO FORTH.
BUT NOW THE TREND OVER THE LAST FIVE OR 10 YEARS HAS BEEN, LET'S, UH, FAVOR THE FEE IN LIEU OVER THE DEDICATION OF PARKLAND, THE PARK.
THE, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT ADDING THE PER ACRE MARKET VALUE DIVIDED BY THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE.
63.72 TIMES THE NUMBER OF S IN THE DEVELOPMENT EQUALS THE FEE AND LIE FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE MARKET VALUE.
LET'S SAY THE MARKET VALUE IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AN ACRE AFTER IT'S PLATTED.
WE DIVIDE THAT BY THE NUMBER OF, OF OR OR LEVEL OF SERVICE.
AND THAT EQUALS, UH, 1569 OR 1570 UH, DOLLARS.
AND THAT WILL TIME THAT BY THE NUMBER OF DU IN THE SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT'S, UH, OF COURSE, THEN THERE'S CREDITS FOR, UH, PRIVATE HOA PARKS.
AND WE'LL LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, GOING OUT BECAUSE THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THAT EVEN $1,050 DU BUT AT LEAST INCREASING THIS A LITTLE BIT.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN A, IN A FEW MINUTES HOW THAT IS BROKEN OUT.
UM, GOING UP TO 1570 PER, UH, DU AND NOW WE HAVE, UM, A VALUE THAT IS ATTRIBUTABLE AND WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PLACE A VALUE ON, ON THAT PROPERTY.
AND THOSE DU ADDITIONAL PROPOSED.
UH, WE WANT TO ACTUALLY ALSO COVER OUR OURSELVES.
IF WE'RE NOT TRULY HAPPY WITH THE APPRAISAL, WE CAN ALSO COME BACK AS A CITY AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL LIKE THIS LAND MAY BE WORTH LESS OR MORE.
MOST LIKELY IT'S GONNA BE MORE.
UH, AND SO WE, IN DETERMINING THE AVERAGE FAIR MARKET PER ACRE VALUE, UM, WE, IF COUNCIL AND THEIR JUDGMENT MAY BE TERMED BE, MAY DETERMINE BECAUSE OF CHANGE CONDITIONS, THE APPRAISE VALUE OF THE LAND BEING DEVELOPED REQUIRES
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FURTHER ANALYSIS.SHALL OBTAIN A SECOND APPRAISAL PAID FOR BY THE CITY, THE FIRST ONE'S PAID BY THE DEVELOPER.
IF THERE IS REASON FOR THE SECOND ONE, THEN THE CITY WOULD PAY FOR THE SECOND ONE WE GO INTO.
THE SECOND CRITICAL COMPONENT IS THE PARK, A PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE OR THE PARK IMPROVEMENT FEE, SORRY, IT USED TO BE CALLED THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE.
WE'VE CHANGED IT TO PARK IMPROVEMENT FEE.
AND SO THIS IS THE SECOND CRITICAL COMPONENT, UM, THAT WE, WE LOOK AT.
CURRENTLY WE'RE AT $400 D PER DU AGAIN, UH, THERE THE ORDINANCE OR ANY, UH, DOCUMENTS THAT ARE OUT THERE LACKS EXPLANATION OF THE PRINCIPLES USED TO DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF PARK IMPROVEMENT FEE.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING CONSTRUCTION COSTS PER ACRE SHOULD BE EMPIRICALLY DERIVED BY REVIEWING RECENT BID PACKAGES OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW PARKS AND NUMBER OF ACRES IN THOSE PARKS TO DERIVE A DEVELOPMENT COST PER ACRE.
THE D PER DWELLING DEVELOPMENT FEE IS ASCERTAINED BY DIVIDING THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS PER ACRE BY THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE LAKEWOOD PARK, UH, OPENED IN 2020.
THE FALL OF 2020, UH, THE CITY'S COST WAS $8.6 MILLION.
THERE'S ESSENTIALLY A HUNDRED ACRES OF USABLE LAND.
UM, AND I DID PUT A NOTE THERE.
NOT ALL A HUNDRED ACRES WAS DEVELOPED, BUT, WE'LL, WE'LL LEAVE IT AT A HUNDRED ACRES 'CAUSE THAT'S A LAND, A LAND MASS.
AND WE LOOKED AT IT AS $86,000 PER ACRE FOR DEVELOPMENT.
WE DIVIDE THAT BY THE 63.72 DU THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AS OUR SERVICE LEVEL.
AND WE COME UP WITH 13 $50 PER DU A HUNDRED ACRES, AS I MENTIONED, IS THE TOTAL LAND SURFACE.
I HAVE IN A SECOND EXAMPLE AS WELL IN ROBIN BLOOD.
SO PARK, PARK, UM, ROBIN BLEDSOE PARK IS EXISTING.
PARK'S BEEN AROUND FOR PROBABLY 30 YEARS.
UM, BUT IN THE RECENT YEARS, IN THE LAST JUST THREE OR FOUR YEARS, WE'VE PUT IN QUITE A FEW DOLLARS, ACTUALLY ALMOST A LITTLE OVER $2.7 MILLION IN ROBIN BLOOD.
SO PARK, AND IF WE DO THE SAME CALCULATIONS THROUGHOUT, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE NOW AT 26 $2,673 PER DU NEW BRONZEVILLE AND THEIR ORDINANCE, THEY USE A BASELINE OF $342,000 PER ACRE TO CONSTRUCT A PARK.
UH, IF WE TAKE THAT AND OUR SERVICE LEVEL, THAT'S AT $5,367 PER DU.
AND THAT'S SORT OF WHERE WE WERE COMING FROM LAST SUMMER AND FELT LIKE, OKAY, LET'S, LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK AND RE-LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE.
SO, UH, AS YOU CAN, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE NOW AT 1350 PER DU SOME, SOME HAVE ASKED, WHY DON'T WE USE ROBIN BLEDSOE? WHY DON'T WE USE, PERHAPS WHAT WERE SOME OF OUR, UH, POTENTIAL EXPENDITURES OF SAN GABRIEL? WELL, SAN GABRIEL'S NOT BUILT, BUILT YET.
SO THAT MAY BE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT IN THE FUTURE ON THOSE CONSTRUCTION COSTS WHEN THOSE COME IN.
SO THERE ARE CREDITS AND OFFSETS FOR PAR PRIVATE PARKLAND AND AMENITIES THAT THE DEVELOPERS PROVIDE.
RIGHT NOW, A DEVELOPER CAN RECEIVE A HUNDRED PERCENT CREDIT, BOTH PARKLAND AND AMENITIES IF ALL CRITERIA IS MET.
UM, OUR PROPOSED IS, AND THIS IS ALSO BASED ON EXPERT INPUT, THE MOST REASONABLE CREDIT LIMIT TO ADOPT FOR AMENITIES WITHIN DEVELOPMENT IS 50%.
THIS ASSUMES THAT RESIDENTS PARK USE WILL BE EVENLY DIVIDED BETWEEN THE PRIVATE FACILITIES INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND THE SYSTEM OF PUBLIC PARKS BEYOND ITS BOUNDARIES.
SO THE APPROPRIATE RE REVIEWING AUTHORITIES MAY APPROVE A PLAN FROM THE DEVELOPER TO PROVIDE PRIVATELY OWNED AND MAINTAIN PARK LAND AND PARK IMPROVEMENTS, MEANING ALL REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SECTION NOT TO EXCEED 50% OF THE FEE IN LIEU OF OR PUBLIC OF PUBLIC PARKLAND DEDICATION AND PUBLIC PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
THE REMAINING 50% WILL BE PLACED IN PARKLAND DEDICATION FUND TO DEVELOP PUBLIC PARKS.
SO THIS IS SORT OF A CONTINUATION ON EVEN ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
PRIVATE OWNERSHIP AND PERPETUAL MAINTENANCE OF ARIES AND FACILITIES SHALL BE ADEQUATELY PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPER, HOA THROUGH RECORDED WRITTEN AGREEMENT, CONVEYANCE AND RESTRICTIONS.
AND THE SINGLE PARTIAL ATTRACT OF LAND FOR A PRIVATE PARK IS LIMITED, NO MORE THAN 50% OF THE SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES REQUIRED FOR THE A HUNDRED DWELLING UNITS.
UM, AND I GIVE AN EXAMPLE THERE, BUT THE OVERALL EXAMPLE ON THE, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS A PER ACRE MARKET VALUE OF LAND.
THE CURRENT CITY LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHICH WE ALREADY LOOKED AT, THE NUMBER OF DU AND IT'S DIVIDED BY 50%.
THE APPROPRIATE REVIEWING AUTHORITIES MAY BE ALLOWED, UH, MAY ALLOW A PORTION OF ALL OF THE FEE AND L TO BE USED FOR TRAIL DEVELOPMENT.
OUR COUNCIL AND OUR SUB, OUR, OUR, OUR SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COUNCIL FELT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT THAT TRAILS, UM, ARE ALL HIGH ON OUR LIST.
THEY WANT TO SEE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN A LOT OF OUR SUBDIVISIONS THROUGH THE USE OF TRAILS IN GREENWAYS AND GREEN SPACE.
AND SO IF THAT, UM, DEVELOPER COMES
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IN AND THEY SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA PUT IN THE SYSTEM OF TRAILS, WE'RE GONNA CONNECT TO THE RIGHT, LEFT, OR BEHIND.UM, AND THEN WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, OKAY, YOU CAN USE ALL OF THAT, UM, UH, FUNDING.
SO THERE'S STILL CREDITS FOR SLOPES AND FLOODPLAINS, HOWEVER THAT'S CHANGING.
UH, WE'VE SEEN THAT CHANGE AMONG NUMBER OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND THROUGHOUT OTHER, UH, OTHER CITIES.
IN, IN, IN TEXAS, IT USED TO BE A 50%, UM, THAT YOU COULD GET CREDIT FOR, UH, BASICALLY A TWO FOR ONE, UH, TWO ACRES EQUALS ONE ACRE OF PARKLAND CREDIT.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT MOVING THAT FORWARD TO THREE ACRES OF FLOODPLAIN SLOPES EQUALS TO ONE ACRE OF PARKLAND CREDIT.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT AN ADDING, WE DON'T HAVE THIS IN THERE.
UM, UH, DRAINAGE DITCHES, DETENTION PONDS, POWER LINE EASEMENTS AND SIMILAR SITES SHALL NOT BE ACCEPTED FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION UNLESS 75% OF THE MORE OR MORE OF THE ACTIVE AND USABLE AREAS DESIGNED FOR RECREATIONAL USE.
AND THE DEPARTMENT FINDS AFTER CONSULTATION WITH A CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE, THAT THE LAND HAS EXCEPTIONAL RECREATION VALUE.
THERE ARE AREAS THAT POWER LINE EASEMENTS OR GAS LINE EASEMENTS, NATURAL GAS LINE EASEMENTS MAKE GREAT TRAIL SYSTEMS. AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO UDE THOSE THINGS, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE THAT GIVES US SOME ABILITY TO, TO PUSH BACK ON SOME OF OUR DETENTION PONDS OR RETENTION PONDS AND DRAINAGE DISH, UH, DITCHES AS WELL.
AND THEN THERE'S CREDIT FOR PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PARKS THAT DEVELOPERS PROVIDE IN LIEU OF PAYMENT.
RIGHT NOW, THE CURRENT IS IN LIEU OF PAYMENT OF PARK IMPROVEMENT FEES.
THE CITY MAY APPROVE A PLAN FROM THE DEVELOPER CONSTRUCT PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK CREDIT FOR PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PARKS.
UP TO 100% MAY PROVIDE, IF PARK IMPROVEMENTS MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS OF THIS ORDINANCE AND CITY NEEDS, E-T-E-T-J, THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
WE CAN, AND WE DO APPLY THIS TO OUR ETJ, BUT WE WANTED TO DEFINE IT EVEN FURTHER.
FOR SUBDIVISIONS LOCATED OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS UP TO 100% CREDIT MAY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY BE GIVEN IF THE SUBDIVIDED ENTERS INTO A WRITTEN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY STATING THAT ALL PRIVATE PARK LAND SHALL BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY AT THE TIME OF FULL PURPOSE ANNEXATION OF SAID SUBDIVISION BY THE CITY, DOESN'T MEAN ALL PROPERTY WILL BE THAT WAY OR ALL PARK PROPERTY OUT IN OUR E-T-G-E-T-J WHEN IT BECOMES ANNEXED WILL, UH, FALL UNDER THE PARK.
BUT IT, WE DON'T WANT TO DISREGARD CRITICAL PARK LAND THAT WE MAY WANT TO BE IN OUR CITY SYSTEM.
THERE IS NO TIME LIMIT ON THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS AT THIS POINT.
WE COULD, WE COULD HANG ON TO THEM FOR 20 OR 30 OR 40 YEARS, BUT, UH, THAT'S NOT A GOOD PRACTICE.
BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD, THE CITY MUST EXPEND THE FUNDS WITH FIVE YEARS FROM THE DATE RECEIVED FOR ACQUISITION AND DEVELOPMENT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD RECREATION LAND, OR 10 YEARS FOR THE COMMUNITY OR RE REGIONAL PARK LAND.
AND THEN ALSO WE, THERE'S NO, NOTHING IN OUR ORDINANCE ABOUT FREQUENCY OF REVIEW THAT IS REQUIRED.
UM, AND WE'RE BEEN HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO ADD THIS LANGUAGE.
SO CITY COUNCIL REQUIRES THE REVIEW OF THE ORDINANCE EVERY THREE YEARS AND BE UPDATED AS NECESSARY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
UM, THE PUBLIC ART FUND, MOST OF YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PUBLIC ART COMPONENT, UH, AS A PART OF OUR ORDINANCE.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT GOT SO LI BIG OVER THERE, BUT, UM, I'M, I'M SORRY, SOMEHOW IF WE GOT OUR FONT OFF A LITTLE BIT.
SO, UH, BUT WE DO ALLOW 15% OF THAT FEE IN LIEU AND PARK IMPROVEMENT FEES.
IT GOES INTO THAT DEDICATED FUND, 75 FOR PUBLIC ART.
AND WE'RE PRO PROPOSING NO CHANGES.
UH, AND IF THIS GOES THROUGH, THEY'LL ALSO SEE AN INCREASE IN THE, THE, THEIR, UH, FUNDING FOR PUBLIC ART AS WELL.
SO I, I'VE PUT TOGETHER A COUPLE EXAMPLES JUST TO GIVE YOU, I KNOW YOUR MIND'S THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS.
WE HAVE A 23.1 ACRE, 320 DDU DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE FEE IN LIEU, THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT ACREAGE IS PLAID IS 23.18 ACRES.
THE FAIR MARKET VALUE, I USE THAT SAME A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ACRE PER ACRE VALUE.
UH, OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE, 63.772 DU UH, THAT $1,570 PER DU AND 320 IS A LITTLE OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE COMES IN AT 4 32.
IT'S A TOTAL OF $934,000, A LITTLE OVER $934,000.
SO THERE'S BASICALLY FOUR OPTIONS IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE A DEVELOPER, AND THIS IS WHAT YOUR PARKLAND, YOUR FEE IN LIEU IS, AND YOU'VE GOT, THIS IS YOUR PROJECT, UM, UH, YOU, YOU'LL, AND YOU DECIDE YOU DO NOT WANT TO ADD ANY PARK
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LAND.YOU'RE NOT GONNA PROVIDE ANY PRIVATE OR PUBLIC PARKLAND AT ALL.
YOU WILL BE PAYING A $934,000 TO THE CITY TO BE PLACED IN THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FUND.
OPTION TWO, PARKLAND DEDICATION, PRIVATELY OWNED AND HOA MAINTAINED PARKLAND.
SO NOW WE'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PRIVATE, PRIVATE PARK LAND ALSO IS PART OF THAT DEDICATION.
THE TOTAL IS 9 34 50% CREDIT FOR PRIVATE.
YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO APPLY $467,000 TO YOUR PARK TO BE USED FOR PRIVATE PARK LAND AND PRIVATE HOA PARK.
THE OTHER 4 67 WILL BE USED, UM, UH, BE PAID TO THE CITY FOR, UH, PUBLIC PARK USE AND, UM, UH, ABILITY TO USE THOSE FUNDS FOR FUTURE PARKLAND AND PARK FACILITIES.
THREE, THE PARKLAND DEDICATION IS A PUBLIC PARK.
SO YOU'VE GOT WITHIN YOUR SUBDIVISION OR YOUR, YOUR DEVELOPMENT, YOU WANT, YOU'VE GOT X AMOUNT OF ACRES, UM, AND YOU WANT TO APPLY THOSE AS A PUBLIC PARK.
IF YOU WANT TO USE THAT AS A PUBLIC PARK, WHETHER IT'S MAINTAINED BY THE HOA OR A CITY, OR WITH A CITY WITH AN AGREEMENT, YOU CAN RECEIVE A HUNDRED PERCENT CREDIT.
SO 900, ALL $934,000 OF THAT FEE IN LIE AND PARK IMPROVEMENT FEE WOULD BE USED TO DEVELOP THE PUBLIC PARK WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.
THEREFORE, ZERO WOULD BE PAID TO THE CITY.
BUT WE'RE GAINING A NEW PARK OUT OF THAT.
AND THEN FOUR PARKLAND DEDICATION, WHICH INCLUDES A CUSTOMIZED PLAN OF PRIVATE AND PUBLIC PARK AREAS THAT TOTAL OF 9 34 AT MINIMUM OF 467,000 WOULD BE USED FOR TO DEVELOP A PUBLIC PARK AND THE REMAINDER TO USE FOR A PRIVATE PARK.
MAYBE THOSE ARE PRIVATE PARKS WITHIN DEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC PARKS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE FROM A DEVELOPER AND, UH, MEET THEIR NEEDS.
I HAVE A SECOND EXAMPLE, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
THIS IS 83.41 ACRES AND 224 DU.
SO A LITTLE BIT MORE ACRES, BUT A LITTLE LESS DU SO YOU CAN PROBABLY SEE WHERE THAT'S, THAT'S HEADING FROM THE FIRST ONE.
UM, THAT THAT COMES INTO, UH, AT, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL THE FIGURES, BUT IT COMES INTO A LITTLE OVER $600,000.
BUT YOU HAVE THE SAME FOUR OPTIONS HERE AS WELL FOR THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I ACTUALLY TOOK THE FAIR MARKET VALUE AT $85,000 AN ACRE ON THIS ONE RATHER THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
BUT IT COULD BE, UH, IT COULD HAVE BEEN 125,000 OR IT COULD HAVE BEEN 75,000 AS WELL.
SO YOUR, YOUR FEE IN LIEU IS BASED ON THAT FAIR MARKET VALUE.
SO SUMMARY, THE 67, 63 0.72 2D IS ACRES OF LEANDER BASELINE.
WE ARE INCLUDING A GEOGRAPHIC NEXUS.
UH, THE FEE IN LIE IS ESTABLISHED BASED ON THE FAIR MARKET APPRAISAL, UM, AND PARK IMPROVEMENT FEE ESTABLISHED BETWEEN 1350 AND 26 73.
AS I MENTIONED THOUGH, WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST THE 1350 AND THEN SUBSEQUENT SUBSEQUENTLY IN OUR THREE YEAR REVIEWS, WE MAY SEE AN INCREASE IN THAT BASED ON THE, UM, THE, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT OF PARKS, THE CREDIT OF 50% FOR PRIVATE PARKLAND WITH A DEVELOPMENT 50% TO PARK FUND, UH, UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT CREDIT FOR PROVIDING PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PARKS.
YOU ARE GIVEN A CREDIT FOR FLOODPLAIN AND SLOPES TO BE BASED ON A THREE TO ONE BASIS.
AND LET ME REMIND YOU, SOME PEOPLE DON'T EVEN GIVE CREDIT FOR SLOPES OR FLOODPLAINS.
UM, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T PUT 'EM IN YOUR PARK AT, AT ALL.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO, TO USE THAT AS PARK, UH, PARKLAND.
THE TIME LIMIT ON EXPENDITURES OF FUNDS IS EITHER FIVE OR 10 YEARS, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF PARK AND ORDINANCE REVIEW TO BE CONDUCTED EVERY THREE YEARS.
OH, AND I'LL GO BACK ONE SO I CAN STOP THERE NOW, ALLOW YOU TO TALK 'CAUSE I VALUE YOUR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS.
IT WAS VERY GOOD LAST SUMMER AND IT'S GOT US TO THIS POINT.
UM, I WILL SHARE THE NEXT STEPS.
UM, LIKE I MENTIONED A LITTLE WHILE AGO, WE DO PLAN TO BRING THIS BACK TO YOU AS A, A RED LINE EDITION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
28TH, I BELIEVE IS SCHEDULED AND TWO WEEKS FROM TONIGHT BASICALLY.
AND THEN, UH, THE GOAL IS TO PRESENT THIS TO COUNCIL APRIL 4TH AND THE 18TH.
UH, THE FOURTH WILL BE ALSO A WORKSHOP FORMAT SIMILAR TONIGHT.
AND THEN THE 18TH WILL BE, UH, FINAL READING.
THE GOAL MAY NOT WORK THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S OUR GOAL.
AND I'LL ALSO SEND THIS POWERPOINT OUT TOMORROW MORNING SO Y'ALL CAN READ ALL ABOUT IT.
I THOUGHT, DIDN'T REALIZE I HADN'T GONE OUT, BUT THAT'S MY FAULT.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR, UH, COMMENTS? I, I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT.
I KNOW MR. TOMINS USED TO RUN FOR ME YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE PARKS.
UM, MY HOA HA HAS ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES OF PARKS.
FIVE OF THOSE ACRES ARE LITERALLY GRASSY AREAS THAT WE WASTE CITY WATER THAT WE COULD BE DRINKING
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TO IRRIGATE IT.UM, AND THIS IS QUITE COMMON IN MANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I LOVE THE POOL THAT'S IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I LOVE THE PLAY SCAPE AND THE SWING SETS AND THE PLACE WHERE THE KIDS PLAY SOCCER.
BUT I ALSO SEE CLOSE TO THREE AND A HALF, FOUR ACRES OF GRASS THAT THE ONLY THING IT'S USED FOR IS FOR A SPRINKLER TO GO.
AND THIS IS A, A PROBLEM IF WE'RE NOT, IF WE'RE NOT INVOLVED, BUT, BUT IT'S, IT'S THE CHEAPEST WAY THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN MAKE THAT PARKLAND FOR THE CITY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING, IF THEY'RE GOING TO CALL IT PARKLAND, MAKE IT SOMETHING USABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S PRIVATE OR PUBLIC, UM, MORE THAN JUST A GRASSY LOT THAT'S IRRIGATED WITH THREE PARK BENCHES PER ACRE.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE HERE.
WE HEARD, I THINK YOU SAID SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO THAT LAST SUMMER.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE HERE.
BECAUSE IF WE BEGIN TO FOCUS ON THE FEE AND LIE RATHER THAN ON THE PARK OR THE PARK, THE SUBDIVISION PARK PROPERTY, 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY CAN INCLUDE ABOUT ANYTHING MM-HMM.
THIS NARROWS THAT, THAT SCOPE A LOT.
SO THOSE THREE TO FOUR ACRES THAT YOU FEEL, AND PROBABLY MANY OF YOUR RESIDENTS AND EVEN SOME OF US IN, UH, CITY ADMINISTRATION, WE MAY SEE THAT AS, UH, UNUSABLE SPACE.
AND IF WE HAD THE FORETHOUGHT 10 OR 15 OR 20 YEARS AGO AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE, WOULDN'T HAVE OCCURRED.
WE WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO USE THOSE FUNDS THAT WENT INTO THAT PORTION OR THAT VALUE OF THOSE FUNDS ON THAT PARKLAND TO PUT INTO A PARKLAND FUND THAT WE COULD HAVE BOUGHT USABLE PROPERTY, BETTER PROPERTY AND DEVELOPED THAT.
ANYONE ELSE ON THIS END? JEFF? YEAH.
IT'S CLEAR THAT A LOT OF THOUGHT HAS GONE INTO THIS, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS I ABSOLUTELY LOVE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
THE GEOGRAPHIC NEXUS, I THINK IS, IS, IS HUGE.
MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE APPLYING FUNDS IN PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE RIGHT? AND, AND, AND, UM, THE FEE AND LIE.
UM, I LOVE THE IDEA OF MOVING TO A FAIR MARKET VALUE.
I I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OWNERS PERHAPS PUT ON WHO IS ALLOWED TO, UH, INTO THE, UH, APPRAISER POOL.
UM, BECAUSE IN, IN YOUR FIRST PARAGRAPH, YOU TALKED ABOUT NO UNFAIR BURDEN.
WELL, MY, I, MY, I'LL TELL YOU THIS, MY DEFINITION OF UNFAIR BURDEN CHANGES DEPENDING ON WHERE I'M SITTING, RIGHT? WHEN I'M SITTING HERE, MY IDEA OF WHAT UNFAIR BURDEN IS FAR DIFFERENT THAN WHEN I'M SITTING IN MY OFFICE, RIGHT? SO, SO I I, I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE, THE CITY, UM, AND THAT THE DEVELOPERS UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE REALLY GOING TO BE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN TERMS OF WHAT MARKET VALUES YOU'RE BRINGING BACK.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE WASTING OUR TIME, PERHAPS WE CAN PUT SOME TEETH INTO THAT SOMEHOW.
UH, IN ADDITION, I AM REALLY EXCITED OVER THE FACT THAT THERE ARE SOME NUMBERS WE CAN POINT TO NOW AND SAY, HERE'S HOW WE GOT 'EM.
I I AM A, I'M A QUANTITATIVE GUY, SO I WANNA KNOW HOW YOU FOUND THE NUMBER YOU FOUND.
AND THIS IS A WAY FOR US THEN TO POINT AND SAY, WELL, HERE IS WHAT THIS IS GONNA COST AND HERE'S WHY IT'S GONNA COST THAT.
RIGHT? THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND.
THAT BEING SAID, CAN YOU, CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE THE, THE 50% CREDIT FOR PRIVATE PART COMES FROM? WHERE, WHERE WE COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER? THAT WAS A A BECAUSE IT FEELS KIND OF ARBITRARY TO ME.
AND, AND I, I, I APPRECIATE THAT IT ACTUALLY CAME FROM A, A DISCUSSION WITH PROBABLY THE WORLD
I, I, I DON'T USE THAT LOOSELY.
I I SAY THAT THE, PROBABLY THE WORLD'S LEADER WHEN IT COMES TO PARKLAND EDUCATION.
UM, PROFESSOR OUT OF TEXAS A AND M UNIVERSITY, WHO'S HE? I MEAN, LITERALLY HE SPEAKS ACROSS THE WORLD ON PARKLAND DEDICATION,
AND THOSE WERE, THAT WAS HIS, HIS DETERMINATION OF 50%.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THAT GOOD, YOU KNOW, WE CAN RECOMMEND THAT PEOPLE OR SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE USING PROBABLY 50% OF THE PARKS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO USING, UH, THEIR, THEIR PRIVATE PARKS AND 50% IN THEIR, IF, IF HE CAN PROVIDE US SOME SORT OF, OF JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH A RED LINE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT WAS A QUOTE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD, BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMS, IT, IT SEEMS TO ME TO BE
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A, A LOW NUMBER TO THINK OF THE FACT THAT RESIDENTS WHERE THEY HAVE A PRIVATE PARK ARE ONLY GONNA USE 50% OF OUR PUBLIC, UH, PARK FACILITIES.AND I WANT PEOPLE TO USE PARKS.
I'M A, MY WIFE TELLS ME, UM, WE'RE HAVING PARKS, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE PARKS AND, AND I BELIEVE IN PARKS AND, BUT I BELIEVE PARKS SHOULD BE PUBLIC.
SO I, I, UH, I GUESS PART OF MY, UH, PART OF MY ISSUE IS, IS PROBABLY PERSONAL AND THE FACT THAT I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF PRIVATE PARKS TO START WITH IN TERMS OF, WELL, YOU'RE, THIS, THIS WILL HELP PROVIDE MORE OF THOSE PUBLIC PARKS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, AND THE NEXT THING I LOT MORE SEE, I'D LIKE TO SEE AN APPEALS PROCESS IN TERMS OF, OF YOUR EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU, YOU, YOU PUT FIVE YEARS ON THERE.
IF THERE'S A REASON AT THE END OF FIVE YEARS THAT PARKS NEEDS TO COME BACK AND SAY, WE NEED TO HOLD THESE FUNDS FOR A FEW MORE YEARS, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME SORT OF MECHANISM PUT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT, THAT ALLOWS THAT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
AND WITHOUT THAT, OR WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'LL GO TO MY FRIENDS COMMISSIONER.
I THINK WE'RE WOEFULLY UNDER PARKED, I GUESS
I ACTUALLY THINK WE'RE WORSE THAN WHAT YOUR NUMBERS ARE SAYING THOUGH, MR. TOMINS, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE USING ONE OF THE LARGEST QUOTE UNQUOTE PUBLIC PARKS IN OUR NUMBERS, BUT IT'S NOT TRULY WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A PUBLIC PARK BEING THE GOLF COURSE.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA LET ME GO HAVE A, YOU'RE NOT GONNA LET GO CLARIFY THE GOLF COURSE.
WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE GOLF COURSE IN THE 431 ACRES IS ANOTHER 130.
SO ABOUT HALF THE MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSES IN THE COUNTRY ARE CONSIDERED PARKS BASED ON THEIR CITY ORDINANCE.
OURS IS CONSIDERED A PARK, BUT I DID NOT INCLUDE IT IN THERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO.
UH, I, I I FELT LIKE IT'S A SPECIALTY, RIGHT? UH, AMENITY FOR OUR CITY.
UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S DESIGNATED A PARK, WE, WE DON'T INCLUDE IT IN, BUT WE ALL, WE ALWAYS REFER TO IT.
AND I SHOULD HAVE PUT THAT IN THERE MAYBE, BUT NO, THANK YOU.
NO, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY THING I WAS GONNA SAY ABOUT IT.
I THINK OUR NUMBERS ARE WORSE IF THAT WAS INCLUDED, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT YOU, YOU TAKING THAT OUT EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO ACCORDING TO HOW WE CLASSIFY IT.
UH, COMMISSIONER MOSS, I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.
UM, WELL, YEAH, I, ONCE AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE, DIRECTOR CUMMINS.
I THINK, UH, IT'S GREAT PROPOSAL.
I THINK WE'VE GOT TWO GOALS HERE.
ONE, WE WANNA RAISE MORE FUNDS TO DEVELOP MORE PARKS, AND TWO, WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO INCREASE OUR PARK TO, TO RESIDENT RATIO.
UM, AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I I I LOVE WHAT WE'RE PUT FORTH.
I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND LIKE, WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING? WHAT'S THE PRECEDENT? I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING SOMETHING IN PLACE AND PUTTING, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL BURDENS ON DEVELOPERS.
I MEAN, NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT BURDENED ENOUGH, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING, UM, FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IS IT GONNA, IS IT GONNA SLOW DOWN GROWTH? UM, I DO THINK WE'RE A HIGHLY DESIRABLE AREA WITHIN THE AUSTIN METROPOLITAN AREA.
SO I THINK LEANDER IS A GREAT PLACE TO DO BUSINESS AND, AND, AND TO, TO, TO START A BUSINESS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE FULLY IN OUR RIGHT.
BUT I LIKE THAT JUST TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND CITIES DOING THERE? AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW, YOUR FRIEND FROM TEXAS A AND M PROBABLY HAS SOME GOOD INFORMATION ON THAT AS WELL.
UM, BUT YEAH, LIKE THE REST OF THE, THE COMMISSIONERS HERE, I LOVE PARKS.
SO I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE MORE OF THAT CONNECTIVITY, UH, INNER CITY, URBAN, SUBURBAN AREAS AND CONNECTED TO SOME OF OUR MORE RURAL OR, OR PRIMITIVE, I'D SAY TRAILS, UM, IS ONE THAT TOP OF MIND, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT I REALLY LOVE TO SEE, UH, I GUESS BETTER MARKED AND, AND MORE WIDELY PROMOTED IS THE B CAVE HOLLOW BETWEEN CRYSTAL FALLS AND TRIVIO THAT FALLS ALONG THE GOLF COURSE.
BUT IT COULD STILL BE, IT COULD STILL STAY CONNECTED THROUGH THE SIDEWALKS AND THINGS THAT ARE STILL BEING PUT IN BY THOSE HOMES.
I, MY CUR CURIOSITY HERE THOUGH, WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIVATE PARKS.
I'M WONDERING HOW MUCH, IF YOU ADD IN ALL THE PRIVATE PARKS FROM THE HOAS, LIKE WHAT DOES THE, LIKE PARK, WHAT DOES THAT RATIO GO UP TO FROM THE FOUR POINT? WHAT'D YOU SAY? 4.37? 4.34 THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
UH, DOES IT, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT INCREASES, BUT IS IF, IF YOU WERE TO INCLUDE THAT IN THERE, WHAT DOES THAT GO UP TO? AND DO ANY OF THOSE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES YOU CALLED OUT LIKE AUSTIN CEDAR PARK, DO THEY, DO THEY COUNT THAT IN THERE AT ALL? I DON'T.
UM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BECAUSE I, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I I CAN, I'M COVERED.
WE HAVE A CLOSE NUMBER ON THE ACREAGE YEAH.
UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY ALSO DONE IN 2019 IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BUT THERE'S BEEN OBVIOUSLY SOME ADDED SINCE THAT, THAT TIME.
BUT I THINK WE CAN GET A REALLY CLOSE FIGURE THEN WE CAN ADJUST THAT.
IF, IF THAT, IF YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
MEAN, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL HERE AND WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD A COMMERCIAL UP.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT TO CATCH UP WITH EVERYBODY.
AND WE'RE BIGGER THAN CEDAR PARK.
WHAT'D YOU SAY? 90,000? I THINK WE'RE OVER PROBABLY 90 SOMETHING
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THOUSAND RESIDENTS THESE DAYS.SO I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN, YEAH.
CEDAR PARK AS, AS OF EARLIER THIS MONTH, I, I REDID MY, MY FORM, UH, UH, ACCORDING TO THE, THE US CENSUS BUREAU IN, IN 23, THEIR POPULATION AT THE END OF 23 WAS 77,642.
WELL, EITHER WAY, THEY'RE ABOUT WHAT, 80% BUILT OUT, WE'RE ABOUT 50% BUILT OUT.
SO WE GOT A LOT OF, LOT OF ROOM TO GROW AND ADD MORE PARKS.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FROM A PRIVATE PARK STANDPOINT, AND DO WE, OR HAVE WE CONSIDERED, ARE THERE DEVELOPMENTS OR HOAS OUT THERE THAT HAVE LIKE DESIRABLE GREEN SPACES THAT MAYBE THE CITY WOULD WANT TO DO SOME SORT OF LIKE BUYBACK PLAN WHERE WE COULD THEN BUY BACK THAT GREEN SPACE OR, AND SOMEHOW OWN IT AND MAINTAIN IT AND TAKE IT OFF OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO OWN IT AND MAINTAIN IT? BECAUSE I KNOW LIKE PARK SPACE AND LANDSCAPING TYPICALLY IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST EXPENSES FOR AN HOA AND IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS WHY YOU HAVE THOSE HIGHER HOA DUES NEXT TO SAY MAYBE MANAGING A POOL.
AND, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERY DEVELOPMENT HAS A POOL.
I MEAN, OURS DOES, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY AT THAT CUSP WHERE WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T GET ONE.
UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, LARGE, YOU KNOW, THE ACRE LOT DEVELOPMENTS LIKE A REAGAN'S OVERLOOKED DOESN'T HAVE A COMMUNITY POOL.
MAYBE THEY HAVE SOME PARK SPACE, BUT EITHER WAY, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE GENERALLY SOME OF YOUR BIGGER EXPENDITURES.
AND SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WORTH CONSIDERING THAT PERHAPS IF WE COULD GET THAT LAND BACK AND BRING IT TO THE CITY, THEN WE COULD POSSIBLY DEVELOP IT, MAKE IT A, A BETTER SPACE FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY TO USE AND NOT JUST THE PRIVATE COMMUNITY.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
NO, I I THINK THAT'S EXCELLENT.
I THINK WE, WE, WE CAN DO THAT.
UM, AND LOOK AT THE BUYBACK TYPE PROGRAM.
THERE IS SOME, SOME HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF PARKLAND EDUCATION WITH PREVIOUS RIGHT.
UM, ESPECIALLY MOVING FORWARD.
SO IF IT'S ALREADY, IF IT HASN'T BEEN DEDICATED, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE PARKLAND DEDICATION PROGRAM, AND I'M THINKING OF A TRAIL SYSTEM THAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT ALL THE WAY, ALL THE WAY OUT TO TRIVIO FROM HIGHLANDS, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.
AND THERE'S A WONDERFUL TRAIL SYSTEM.
IT NEEDS SOME WORK IN SOME AREAS, BUT IT'S ALL PRIVATELY OWNED.
IT'S, AND I DON'T BELIEVE, I'VE NOT COME ACROSS ANYTHING THAT SAYS IT WAS PART OF A PARKLAND DEDICATION.
NOW I WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL YEAH, I KNOW.
BUT I HAVE BEEN ON THOSE TRAILS.
SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY DESIRED THAT THEY WANTED TO EITHER SELL OR DONATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN WE COULD PROBABLY DO SOMETHING ON THOSE LINES.
JUST A, JUST A THOUGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UH, OR AND THAT MAKES THAT CONNECTION TOO.
I MEAN, I CAN, I CAN HIKE FROM, FROM, FROM RANDALL'S ALL THE WAY TO STATION FIVE IN TRIVIO.
WOULDN'T THAT BE COOL? AND, AND, AND BACK, IT'S ABOUT EIGHT MILES.
SO, UM, BUT, AND IT'S A GREAT BEAUTIFUL GREEN SPACE.
AND, UH, BUT YEAH, PART, PART OF IT FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN IS PRIVATE, LIKE THE FIRST HALF MILE OR MILE IN CRYSTAL FALLS AND OTHER, OTHER MILE OR COUPLE IN, IN TRIVIO.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, IT, IT IS A, IT IS A, TO ME IT'S A HIDDEN GEM WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITY THAT NOT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO OR KNOWS ABOUT.
IT'S NOT ONE OF THESE CONCRETE PAVED OR CRUSH GRANITE WHICH CRUSH GRANITE'S.
BUT A LOT OF THE TRAILS WE TALK ABOUT ARE SIDEWALKS.
AND I DON'T THINK OF AS SIDEWALK AS AN ACTUAL TRAIL.
BUT IT DOES CONNECT PEOPLE TO THE COMMUNITIES.
I DO THINK WE DO NEED MORE SIDEWALKS, WHETHER WE NEED SOMETHING THAT GETS OVER TO NORTHLINE FROM HERE, UH, WHICH WE DEFINITELY NEED.
I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS IN THE, IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UM, BUDGET THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT THAT WILL HOPEFULLY, UH, UH, REMEDY THAT AND PROVIDE SOME, SOME, UH, EASILY ACCESSIBLE WALKWAYS THERE.
UH, BUT EITHER WAY YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AND, AND MENTION, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF, A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED AND THAT HAVE COME IN OVER THE PAST, YOU KNOW, 10, 15 YEARS.
AND SO IF THEY HAVE GREEN SPACE THAT THEY'RE NOT WIDELY USING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BRING IT INTO THE CITY AND THEN ADD SOME IMPROVEMENTS AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY.
COMMISSIONER KLUM, DIRECTOR TILLMANS.
UM, LOVE THE, THE HIGH LEVEL GOAL OF HAVING, UH, A PARK WITHIN A 10 MINUTE WALK OF EVERY HOME.
UM, I THINK THAT THE, WELL, THE MAJOR QUESTION I HAD ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE HAS BEEN ANSWERED.
UM, 'CAUSE I JUST CAN'T WALK ON THERE AND LOSE A BOOMERANG ON, ON HOLE NUMBER ONE IF I WANT TO.
I HAVE TO PAY TO GO DO THAT THERE.
UM, AND THEN, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC PARKS MAINTAINED BY HOAS RIGHT NOW? WE DO HAVE SOME AREAS THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT ARE MAINTAINED, UH, BY SOME HOAS THROUGH AGREEMENT.
AND THEN, THEN THE OPPOSITE AS WELL, SO.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY RELATED TO COMMISSIONER MAYS, UH, LAMENT ABOUT A, A PARCEL OF LAND THAT GETS WATERED BUT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF USE ON IT.
I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE SOME BRAIN POWER PUT ON WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE GREAT LAWN IN LAKEWOOD.
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YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A BIG SPACE.I IS IT IRRIGATED WITH CITY WATER OR WITH RECLAIMED? IT IS IRRIGATED WITH CITY WATER.
WE
WE LOOKED AT THAT EARLY ON, STUDIED THAT EARLY ON.
SO IT IS IRRIGATED, BUT OF COURSE OUR IRRIGATION'S BEEN OFF FOR THE BETTER PART OF THE LAST YEAR.
SO WE'VE RELIED ON MOTHER NATURE TO, TO HELP US.
JUST OUT OUTSIDE OF A, YOU KNOW, A SINGLE BIG EVENT LIKE LIBERTY FEST WHENEVER WE HOLD IT THERE OR SOMETHING.
UM, WHETHER IT'S SPORTS FIELDS, AND I KNOW THAT COMES WITH ITS OWN SET OF MAINTENANCE, UM, BUT SOMETHING TO MAKE IT MORE USABLE.
I LIKE YOUR, I LIKE YOUR, YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS.
AND OF COURSE, AS STAFF, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE OPPORTUNITY, WHAT, WHAT COULD WE ALSO INCLUDE IN THAT AREA RATHER THAN JUST HAVING AN OPEN GREEN SPACE, WHICH IS, IS INCREDIBLE.
UH, ONE OF OUR, OUR ISSUES THOUGH, UM, AS YOU'RE AWARE OF, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING.
AND SO IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ATHLETIC TYPE EVENTS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TRIPLE OR QUADRUPLE YOUR PARKING.
UM, AND SO WITH THIS REVISED UPDATED ORDINANCE, WE MAY BE ABLE TO COLLECT SOME FUNDS AND BE ABLE TO APPROACH SOME LOCAL NEARBY LANDOWNERS TO HELP DEVELOP A, A ADDITIONAL PARKING.
I, I LOVED, UH, GOING THERE AND WATCHING CRICKET GAME PICK UP GAMES EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
BUT I KNOW THERE'S A PRETTY, YOU DRIVE A STAKE IN THE GROUND, YOU COULD HIT THE IRRIGATION.
WELL, MOST OF MY COMMENTS, UM, MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, BUT I LIKED, UH, COMMISSIONER COSGROVE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THE CREDIT FOR, UH, 50% FOR PRIVATE PARK LAND.
AND JUST TO, UM, ADDRESS WHAT THE VICE CHAIR WAS SAYING ABOUT, UM, POSSIBLY PURCHASING SOME OF THIS PRIVATE PARKLAND, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE DEVELOPER HAS HAD TO SPEND THAT MONEY, UH, TO DEVELOP THAT PARK OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, HE'S ALREADY OUT THE MONEY AND BY THE TIME IT'S OWNED BY THE HOA, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY OWN IT.
AND THEY'RE, IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, A MAINTENANCE EXPENSE, A GREAT MAINTENANCE EXPENSE FOR THEM.
AND I MAY BE WRONG, BUT I, I COULD SEE A LOT OF, UH, HOAS WANTING TO SELL THOSE.
AND SO PERHAPS WE BUY THEM AT A DISCOUNTED RATE, NOT FAIR MARKET VALUE.
I KNOW THAT SOUNDS CONTROVERSIAL.
'CAUSE YOU'RE ON HOA OVER HERE, BUT I, I CAN SEE 'EM, A LOT OF THEM WANTING TO UNLOAD THOSE MM-HMM.
AND IF, AND ESPECIALLY IF, IF THEY CAN'T WATER 'EM ON A REGULAR BASIS AND SO FORTH.
SO PERHAPS SOME SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, PRICE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, PRICE, UH, DISCOUNT COULD BE ARRANGED WHERE THEY'RE NOT BOUGHT AT FULL MARKET VALUE.
I JUST THINK THAT, UH, 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA SAVE MONEY IN THE LONG RUN BY NOT HAVING TO ABSOLUTELY MAINTAIN 'EM ANYMORE.
THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME MUTUAL BENEFITS TOO, BECAUSE SOME, SOME HOAS WOULD BE APPREHENSIVE.
WELL, THAT OPENS UP MY COMMUNITY TO A BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE HERE.
UM, BUT NONETHELESS, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF YOU DO IT RIGHT AND YOU PRESENT IT AND KIND OF SELL IT THE RIGHT WAY, I THINK IT COULD BE A GREAT PROGRAM.
I, I'M NOT GONNA, I DON'T WANNA GIVE AWAY INFORMATION, BUT WITHIN THE NEXT, UH, SIX WEEKS, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR SOME INFORMATION ABOUT A, A, A PARTNERSHIP THAT WAS CREATED AND IT REALLY WORKED THE WAY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND SO, UM, WHAT THIS WAS, SO MAINLY TONIGHT, JUST INFORMATION, JUST INFORMATION AND SHARING WITH YOU THE, AND THEN WE'LL PROVIDE THE RED LINE DOCUMENT TO YOU IN TWO WEEKS AND SEEK APPROVAL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND A GOOD PRESENTATION.
AND THEN WE'RE, WE ARE NOW AT ITEM 17.
IT IS 8 48 AND WE'RE ADJOURNED.