* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. Open Meeting.] [00:00:05] GOOD EVENING. TODAY IS THURSDAY, APRIL 18TH, 2024, AND THE TIME IS 6:02 PM AND THIS IS A BRIEFING WORKSHOP OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL, CITY [2. Roll Call.] SECRETARY CRABTREE. WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLE COUNCIL MEMBER CATHERINE BATTALION PARKER. HERE, MAYOR PROTE ESPY. MACKEY LAIA. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER NICOLE THOMPSON. PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS CERNEY. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BECKY ROSS. HERE, MAYOR CHRISTINE AL HERE. [3. Receive a presentation from Northline Leander Development Company, LP regarding proposed updates to the Northline Development land use, addition of a new development partner (Endeavor), time frame extensions associated with the Northline TIRZ agreement, and considering a change to allow the ability to transfer a portion of the reimbursement to Endeavor on several parcels of land approximately 115.7076 acres ± in size; generally located to the southwest of the intersection of 183A Toll Road and San Gabriel Parkway, Williamson County, Leander, Texas.] ITEM NUMBER THREE, RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM NORTHLINE LEANDER DEVELOPMENT COMPANY LP REGARDING PROPOSED UPDATES TO THE NORTHLINE DEVELOPMENT LAND USE ADDITION OF A NEW DEVELOPMENT PARTNER ENDEAVOR TIMEFRAME EXTENSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE NORTHLINE TOURS AGREEMENT AND CONSIDERING A CHANGE TO ALLOW THE ABILITY TO TRANSFER A PORTION OF THE REIMBURSEMENT TO ENDEAVOR ON SEVERAL PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 115.7076 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE. GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF 180 3, A TOLL ROAD. AND SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, LEANDRO, TEXAS. MR. TYBERG, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE AND EXCITED TO WELCOME, UH, OUR PARTNER ENDEAVOR REAL ESTATE GROUP, AND EXCITED FOR THIS PRESENTATION. SO I'LL, I'LL LAUNCH RIGHT IN. UM, SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO, UH, TALK ABOUT, UM, OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND SOME, UH, SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'D LIKE TO, UH, PROPOSE AS WELL AS TO, UH, HIGHLIGHT, UM, ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT WE ANTICIPATE OUR, OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNER TO BRING TO THE PROJECT. UM, STARTING OFF HERE, THIS IS A SUMMARY OF, OF WHAT THE PRESENTATION WILL COVER. UH, WANTED TO TO BASICALLY START BY SAYING OUR ORIGINAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF LEANDER AND NORTHLINE INVOLVED, UH, THE CITY OF LEANDER COVERING ALL OF NORTHLINE'S PHASE ONE, UH, COSTS, AND THAT THOSE WERE TO BE EFFECTUATED IN THE NORTHLINE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH WAS EXECUTED BACK IN 2018. AND SINCE THAT TIME, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS EVENTS THAT HAVE, UH, CHANGED SOME OF THE ASSUMPTIONS OVER THE YEARS. AND, UH, WE'LL SORT OF WALK THROUGH THOSE AND THOSE JUSTIFY THE, THE, THE CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. UH, THE MOST RECENT SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IS, UH, WHEN WE, UH, BROUGHT ENDEAVOR TO THE PROJECT LAST YEAR, UM, THE OBJECTIVE WAS FOR ENDEAVOR TO COME IN AND DO A LARGE SCALE RETAIL PROJECT, WHICH IS REALLY, UH, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE OF THE GREATEST NEED TO BRING THIS PROJECT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. AND IN ORDER TO DO A LARGE SCALE, UH, RETAIL PROJECT, IT DIDN'T QUITE FIT INTO MR. TYBERG. I'M SORRY, CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. OH, DO, OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY. UH, THAT LARGE SCALE RETAIL PROJECT DIDN'T QUITE FIT INTO THE, UH, ALL OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT, UM, ARE DICTATED BY THE, UH, OH, THANK YOU, BY THE, THE NORTHLINE PUD. AND SO WE WENT TO THE CITY STAFF AND, AND, AND HAD ACTUALLY PRESENTED, UH, UH, SOME MODIFICATION TO THE LANGUAGE IN ORDER FOR ENDEAVOR TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT PROJECT AND STAFF RECOMMENDED, RATHER THAN MODIFY THE PUD, LET'S ACTUALLY CARVE THAT AREA OUT OF THE PUD. AND THE GOOD NEWS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS THAT IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE 'CAUSE THE AREA IS ACTUALLY ON THE FRONTAGE. UM, AND A LOT OF THESE LARGE SCALE PROJECTS, YOU SEE FRONTAGE AREAS, UM, HAVING THAT SORT OF RETAIL, HAVING THAT SORT OF SURFACE PARKING TO SUPPORT THE RETAIL ON A LARGE SCALE. AND SO, UM, REMOVING APPROXIMATELY 20% OF THE, THE, THE PROPERTY FOR THIS PROJECT FROM THE PUD CHANGES A LOT OF THINGS AS IT RELATES TO THE AGREEMENT. UM, AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'RE ASKING SOME FOR SOME ADDITIONAL TIME, UH, TO MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS. WE'RE ALSO, UH, AGREEING TO INCREASE OUR COMMERCIAL, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE NUMBERS, BUT TO COUNT THE PROJECT THAT ENDEAVOR'S GONNA DO TOWARDS THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS, UH, AS A WAY TO, TO ADDRESS THAT. AND, UM, AS WE'LL GET INTO, THERE'S SOME BACKEND, UH, PROPERTY TAX REIMBURSEMENT COMPONENTS THAT, UH, WE'VE BEEN PUSHED BACK BECAUSE OF VARIETY OF FACTORS. AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THE CITY TO, UM, TO MAINTAIN, UH, THE, THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS IF THE TURS DOES, UH, SUNSET AND NORTHLINE HADN'T BEEN PAID, UH, THE, THE AMOUNTS AT THAT POINT IN TIME. UM, I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT OUR DEVELOPMENT, UH, OBJECTIVES AND PLANS STILL MEET THE COMMERCIAL OBJECTIVES THAT WE HAD IN PLACE BACK IN 2018. WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT. AND WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING THE CITY WITH A HOST OF OTHER ADDITIONAL BENEFITS THAT WEREN'T REQUIRED UNDER THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SUCH AS MAINTENANCE OF A NUMBER OF THESE PUBLIC, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE ARE PUTTING, WE HAVE PUT AND WILL CONTINUE TO PUT IN [00:05:01] PLACE. SO WALKING THROUGH, UH, THE, UH, UH, PRESENTATION HERE, THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTIES WAS FOR THE CITY TO COVER ALL OF NORTHLINE'S PHASE ONE COSTS. UM, AND AGAIN, WANNA HIGHLIGHT THESE ARE COSTS THAT ARE FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE ALL OWNED BY THE CITY OF LEANDER. SO, TALKING ABOUT SOME HISTORY HERE, UM, WE ORIGINALLY HAD ABOUT A 70 ACRE, UH, UH, PROJECT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DISCUSSING WITH THE CITY BACK IN 2016. UH, AT THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATION, WE HIRED A COUPLE OF CONSULTANTS. ONE IS OUR, OUR LAND PLANNER, DAVID M. SCHWARTZ ARCHITECTS, WHO STILL IS WORKING WITH US TO THIS DAY. AND, UH, ANOTHER GROUP THROUGH A CONSULTANT OF THE CITY WHO IS THE CITY'S CONSULTANT ON THE SMART CODE, RECOMMENDED A, UH, CONSULTANT TO, TO ANALYZE THE RETAIL POTENTIAL, UH, UH, FOR THE PROJECT. AND SO WORKING WITH DAVID M. SCHWARTZ ARCHITECTS, THEY HAD RECOMMENDED THAT RATHER THAN A 70 ACRE PROJECT, WHICH REALLY WAS, UM, IN A, IN A SORT OF AN L SHAPE, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD REALLY PLAN FOR THE FULL DOWNTOWN, IF WE COULD SOMEHOW FIND A WAY TO PURCHASE THE OTHER 45 ACRES ON THE, THE SOUTHWEST CORNER. UH, WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND SO THE, THE, THE PLAN BECAME A, A MUCH LARGER, UH, DOWNTOWN 116 ACRE PROJECT WITH, UH, THE CORE, UH, TOWN SQUARE PROJECT THAT WE ARE, UH, GOING TO BUILD IN THE NEAR TERM, IN THE MIDDLE OF, UH, WHAT IS NOW MAIN STREET. UH, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, SOME, SOME, UH, SEEMS LIKE SOME STUFF IS CUT OFF AT THE BOTTOM HERE, MAYBE NOT. UM, WE HAVE SOME, UH, UH, PROJECTIONS FROM OUR, UH, ACTUALLY THAT, THAT'S GONNA COME LATER. SORRY. ALRIGHT, SO THE BOTTOM SAYS THE GIVES ANALYSIS. YEAH. YEAH. IT SAYS THE GIVES ANALYSIS IN 2017 SHOWED THE POTENTIAL FOR A HUNDRED EIGHTEEN, FIVE HUNDRED TEN. YEAH. FOR SOME REASON THAT'S MISSING FROM MY SCREEN. OKAY. BUT THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S ON, THAT'S ON OUR DEAL. PERFECT. OKAY. THANK, THANK YOU. I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING MISSING. THANK YOU, CHRIS. UM, MOVING ON. UH, SO SCHWARTZ, UH, HAD SKETCHED OUT, UH, A THREE, A MULTIPLE PHASE PROJECT HERE WITH, UM, A LOT OF SURFACE PARKING. AS YOU CAN TELL, THIS WAS THE, THE PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BACK IN 2017 AND 2018 TO THE CITY. SO, I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT THE WAY THAT THESE LARGE PROJECTS OCCUR IS THEY'RE DONE IN PHASES AND THERE'S A LOT OF SURFACE PARKING THAT HAPPENS AS PART OF THOSE PROJECTS, AND THE PROJECTS GET DENSIFIED OVER TIME. AND SO, UM, WE MOVED FORWARD, UH, AT THAT POINT WITH OUR COORDINATION, UH, WITH THE CITY. UH, THE IDEA WAS THAT, UM, THE CITY WOULD COME UP WITH SOME, UH, UPFRONT FUNDS AND THAT THERE WOULD BE REIMBURSEMENTS OF THE REMAINDER OF PHASE ONE, UH, THROUGH THAT STRUCTURE. AND SO, UM, THE CITY ACTUALLY HAD A CREATIVE FINANCING STRATEGY TO COVER ITS COST OF THE UPFRONT FUNDS WITH A TS PROJECT THAT WOULD SIT IN FRONT OF, UH, THE NORTHLINE PROJECTS, MEANING THAT THE DEBT SERVICE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR THAT, UH, THE, FOR THOSE CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION BONDS WOULD BE COVERED EVERY YEAR BEFORE NORTHLINE WOULD RECEIVE, UH, A PENNY OF, OF ITS REIMBURSEMENTS. BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, NORTHLINE'S REIMBURSEMENTS WOULD GET PUSHED BACK IN TIME. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAD A STRUCTURE OF SOME UP UPFRONT, UPFRONT COSTS ALSO BEING PART OF THE AGREEMENT, WHICH ARE IN THE FORM OF WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES AND PERMANENT INSPECTION FEES THAT WOULD COVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF COSTS BECAUSE OF THE, THE SLOW NATURE OF THE REIMBURSEMENTS FROM THE T. AND SO ALL THIS HISTORY IS CAPTURED, UH, AT THE END OF THE, THE PRESENTATION. UM, SO ONCE, UH, ONCE WE, WE, UH, COORDINATED THE STRUCTURE, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE AGREEMENT, AND THEN WE WENT TO THE TS. AND THE TS, UH, COORDINATION, UH, INVOLVES A, AN ADDITIONAL PROJECT ALSO GETTING, UM, UH, UH, APPROVED BY THE TS AND SLIPPING IN FRONT OF THE NORTHLINE PROJECT. AND THAT WAS A COUNTY PROJECT THAT, UH, HAD BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, UH, UH, ACCORDING TO THE HISTORY. BUT WHAT THAT, WHAT THE RESULT OF THAT PROCESS WAS IS NORTHLINE UH, NORTHLINE'S REIMBURSEMENTS WERE PUSHED BACK EVEN FURTHER. SO WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UH, YET TO RECEIVE, UH, ANY OF OUR TOURS REIMBURSEMENTS. THEY ARE, UH, PLANNED TO HIT, UH, AROUND 2027, WHICH IS THE PROJECTION OF WHEN THE CITY WILL GET CURRENT WITH [00:10:01] ITS PROJECT AND WHEN THE COUNTY WILL ACTUALLY GET ITS $4.7 MILLION PAID OFF. UM, AT THAT TIME, WE, WE LAUNCHED FORWARD, WE GOT OUR APPROVALS, UH, UNDER THOSE, UH, SCENARIOS, WE MOVED FORWARD WITH OUR ENGINEERING. AND, UH, SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE SPENT ABOUT $25 MILLION IN OUR OWN, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE ALL, HAVE ALL BEEN DEDICATED BACK TO THE CITY. AND, UH, UM, WE'RE COMMITTED TO CONTINUING TO, TO, TO SPEND MONEY ON THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT REGARD AS WELL. THIS MAP AT THE BOTTOM SHOWS ALL OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IN GREEN THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AND ARE, UH, HAVE BEEN TURNED OVER TO, TO THE CITY AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO, UH, AS WE LAUNCHED INTO THE, THE ENGINEERING AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, WE ALSO, UM, STARTED WORKING WITH BEST IN CLASS PARTNERS TO DEVELOP OUR VERTICAL PROJECTS. AND WE'VE HAD SOME, SOME GREAT PARTNERS START SOME PROJECTS. WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT PARTNERS THAT HAVE, UM, NOT QUITE DELIVERED SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL THAT WE EXPECTED, AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT. UM, BUT SINCE 2018, THERE'S ALSO BEEN A VARIETY OF FACTORS THAT HAVE SLOWED DOWN. UH, SOME OF OUR DEVELOPMENT FROM CO TO PEC DELAYS TO, UH, MACRO RECESSIONARY PRESSURE PRESSURES AND BANK FAILURES, ET CETERA, UH, PRICE INCREASES WITH CONSTRUCTION. UH, THOSE HAVE HAD A, AN IMPACT ON THE PROJECT, BUT HAVE NOT, CERTAINLY HAVE NOT SLOWED US DOWN. UM, CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD. UH, THIS SLIDE KIND OF LISTS SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS WE HAD LINED UP. WE HAD ALL OF THESE UNDER CONTRACT WITH VARIOUS PARTNERS, AND FOR THE VARIETY OF REASONS DESCRIBED IN THE LAST SLIDE, UM, THOSE GROUPS, UH, COULD NOT MOVE FORWARD. UH, THE OTHER ITEM I THOUGHT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO, TO KIND OF SHARE IS THE IMPACT FEE REIMBURSEMENTS THAT WE ANTICIPATED IN 2018 COULDN'T GET PAID UNTIL THE CITY COMPLETED ITS IMPACT FEE STUDY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN OVER A, A FAIRLY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. AND IT, AND IT WAS FINALLY COMPLETED THE LATTER HALF OF 2023. SO IT TOOK ABOUT FOUR PLUS YEARS FOR US TO GET PAID UNDER THOSE, UH, UNDER THAT STRUCTURE. HERE IS OUR, UH, LAYOUT OF SORT OF HOW WE NAME THE BLOCKS TO KIND OF FOLLOW SOME OF THE SLIDES THAT, THAT ARE FOLLOWING. UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE, THE RENDERINGS OF PROJECTS THAT, UM, EITHER HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, UH, OR IN THE PROCESS OF BEING COMPLETED ON, ON SITE, OR ARE CLOSE TO BEING COM, UH, CLOSE TO COMMENCING, UH, OVER ON THE, THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, WHICH IS OUR COMMERCIAL PROJECT, UH, FIRST COMMERCIAL PROJECT, UH, AN OFFICE PROJECT THAT WE'RE EXCITED TO GET GOING IN THE VERY NEAR TERM, FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, WE HAVE SLATES, UH, MULTIFAMILY PROJECT CALLED THE GRAMERCY 343 UNITS. UH, SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE, HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. WE HAVE RESIDENTS, UH, THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FINISHING THE REMAINDER OF THAT PROJECT OVER THE COURSE OF THE SUMMER. UM, NOVAK HAS DONE, UH, 25 TOWN HOMES. UM, MOST OF THOSE HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. WE HAVE RESIDENTS LIVING IN, IN THOSE AS WELL. AND WE'RE EXCITED TO CONTINUE THE, THE TOWN HOME, UH, DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, I THINK MOST EXCITED, UH, ABOUT THE, THE, THE, THE COMMERCIAL THAT'S TO COME, UH, WITH ST. JOHN'S STARTING THAT PROCESS. UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT BEEN ON SITE, WE'VE GOT SOME, SOME IMAGES. THESE ARE A COUPLE MONTHS OLD, AND THEY'LL ACTUALLY BE, UM, WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE, UH, UH, OF THESE, UH, SHORTLY. THESE ARE, THIS IS THE GROUP OF, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE PENDING. UH, WE'VE GOT, IN ADDITION TO ST. JOHN WHO I MENTIONED, WE HAVE ENDEAVOR REAL ESTATE GROUP HERE, WHO'S GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE RETAIL COMPONENT. THEY'RE ALSO TEED UP TO DO, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY. WE HAVE RYAN COMPANIES UNDER CONTRACT, UH, ANOTHER VERY LARGE ORGANIZATION, UH, NATIONAL ORGANIZATION TO DO, UH, A MINIMUM OF SOME MEDICAL OFFICE ON A BLOCK, AS WELL AS SOME POTENTIAL SENIOR LIVING. UH, WE'VE GOT A HOTEL COMPONENT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY ON, WHICH I'M EXCITED, UH, UH, TO, TO MOVE ALONG AS WELL. AND WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY EVERY SINGLE BLOCK ON THE PROJECT TEED UP OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS TO DEVELOP. SPEAKING OF ENDEAVOR, HERE IS THE SECTION ABOUT 17 ACRES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. UH, CURRENTLY IT'S THEIR INITIAL PHASE OF RETAIL. IT'S REALLY ALONG THE FRONTAGE ON THE, UH, TOLLWAY AND THE NORTHEAST ENTRANCE TO THE PROJECT. UM, WE WOULD, WOULD, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME FLEXIBILITY TO ADD SOME ACREAGE TO THIS AREA BECAUSE AS ENDEAVOR GETS OUT TO THE MARKET, WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FIND SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, USERS THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO QUICKLY ADD TO THIS AREA ON AN ADMINISTRATIVE BASIS, NOT HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND REMOVE ADDITIONAL PARCELS THROUGH A, YOU KNOW, A, A A MORE FORMAL PROCESS. SO THAT, THAT'S PART OF THE REQUEST HERE. UM, I'M GONNA SKIP THROUGH THIS. THIS IS A BLACK AND WHITE VERSION OF WHAT THEY'RE GONNA SHOW A MUCH MORE, [00:15:01] UH, UH, MUCH MORE EXCITING, UH, RENDITION. UM, SO, UH, THIS, THIS KIND OF TALKS ABOUT THE, THE RECENT HISTORY WHICH PRECIPITATES THE, THE, THE REQUEST TO MAKE A CHANGE TO OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. UM, BACK IN, UH, LAST YEAR, WE, WE CAME TO CITY STAFF WITH THE, THE PROJECT AND TALKED ABOUT THIS IDEA OF, OF, OF MAKING SOME CHANGES TO, UH, THE PUD IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THIS LARGE SCALE RETAIL PROJECT TO, TO MOVE FORWARD, WHICH COULDN'T, COULDN'T HAPPEN UNDER THE, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PUD. UM, UH, AND SO, UH, TO MAKE IT MARKET VIABLE AND TO MAKE IT HAPPEN TODAY, WE ASKED THAT THERE'S BE SOME MODIFICATIONS. UM, STAFF CAME BACK AND SAID, WHAT WE PREFER IS YOU REMOVE THAT SECTION FROM THE PUD. UM, AND SO REMOVING THAT SECTION FROM THE PUD TAKES AWAY ABOUT 20% OF OUR DEVELOPABLE AREA. AND SO THAT, UM, REALLY JUSTIFIES THE, THE, THE, THE RESTRUCTURING OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. UM, A COUPLE THINGS WANTED TO, UM, PREFACE THAT, UH, ALL OF OUR REIMBURSEMENTS PURSUANT TO OUR AGREEMENT ARE FOR FEES THAT ARE PAID TO THE CITY FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT AND OR FOR PROPERTY TAX INCREMENT, THE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAX THAT THE CITY'S RECEIVING. AND SO, UM, BASICALLY THIS STRUCTURE IS VERY BUDGET FRIENDLY FOR THE CITY. 'CAUSE IT'S ONLY REIMBURSING US FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT THE CITY'S RECEIVING. UM, WE ARE ALSO TAKING ON ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS, AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE AGREEMENT IS UPHELD FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THESE ADDITIONAL, UH, UH, CONSIDERATIONS. UM, SO JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. UH, HERE WE HAVE, UM, SOME LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE, UH, MARKED UP SHOWING WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO IT'S SORT OF IN A RED LINE TYPE VERSION. SO BASICALLY THIS IS JUST ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL TIME TO MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE ALSO VERY MUCH, UH, OPEN TO, UM, ADDING, UH, ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL TO THAT REQUIREMENT, WHICH WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY REQUIRED. THE OTHER COMPONENT OF THIS, WHICH I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT, IS IF WE WERE JUST TO INCLUDE THE ENDEAVOR AREA, WE WOULD MEET THE 200,000 SQUARE FEET REQUIREMENT WHEN THEY SUBMIT FOR THEIR, UH, PERMITS IN OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT NUMBER OF MONTHS. SO THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THIS, THAT WE'RE GONNA MEET THAT REQUIREMENT ACTUALLY WELL BEFORE THAT REQUIREMENT. CURRENTLY, UM, WOULD, WOULD HIT. THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'RE WE'RE PROPOSING IS, UM, BECAUSE OF THE DELAYS THAT HAPPENED WITH, UH, THE, UM, REIMBURSEMENTS FROM THE TURS, UH, WITH THE COUNTY PROJECT AND OTHER DELAYS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE CITY TO, UM, PROVIDE, UH, THE PROPERTY TAX INCREMENT THAT THE TURS IS, UH, PROVIDING FOR IF THE TS SUNSETS BEFORE THOSE PAYMENTS ARE MADE. UH, GIVEN ALL THE DELAYS AND THE PUSHBACK THAT HAPPENED, WHICH WAS NOT CONTEMPLATED WHEN THE AGREEMENT WAS PUT IN PLACE BACK IN 2018. WE ARE ALSO, UM, AND NUMBER THREE HERE, WE'RE ALSO, UH, WILLING TO GIVE UP SOME OF THE COSTS OF, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN INCURRED FOR PHASE ONE, FOR AREAS THAT ARE SOLELY WITHIN THE AREA THAT WE'RE CARVING OUT FOR THE ENDEAVOR PROJECT. SO THAT'S ABOUT $600,000 OF A STREET SECTION THAT, BECAUSE WE'RE CARVING THAT AREA OUT OF THE P WE'RE WE'RE WILLING TO GIVE THAT UP. UM, THE OTHER TWO ITEMS LISTED ON THIS PAGE IS THE, UH, WILLINGNESS FOR US TO, UM, BASICALLY TRANSFER SOME, UH, TS BENEFITS THAT WE'RE GETTING. UH, SO WE HAVE AN OVER, OVER, UH, ALL CAP AND AN OVERALL NUMBER. WE'RE WILLING TO GIVE UP A PORTION OF THAT TO THE ENDEAVOR PROJECT TO ALLOW THE ENDEAVOR PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD. UM, THAT WILL BE SUBJECT TO A SEPARATE DISCUSSION. UM, BUT THAT'S A NET NET TO THE CITY. AND THEN WE ALSO, UM, WANT THE ABILITY TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL ACREAGE TO THE AREA THAT'S BEING PULLED OUT OF THE PLAN ADMINISTRATIVELY IF AND WHEN ENDEAVOR COMES UP WITH SOME ADDITIONAL USERS THAT WE THINK IS PROBABLY VERY LIKELY TO HAPPEN WHEN THEY GET OUT INTO THE MARKET WITH OUR PLAN. THAT, THAT I'M EXCITED FOR THEM TO SHOW, UH, AFTER I CONCLUDE. SO THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS THAT WE ARE STILL MEETING WITH THIS CHANGE IN, YOU KNOW, RETAIL FOCUS OVER ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROJECT. WE'RE [00:20:01] STILL MEETING THE ORIGINAL NUMBERS AND OBJECTIVES THAT, UM, THIS CONSULTANT THAT THE CITY HIRED TO, UM, UH, THAT PRESENTED TO THE CITY WHEN THE CITY APPROVED THE NORTHLINE PUD, THOSE OBJECTIVES THAT THEY LISTED BACK THEN, WE'RE STILL PLANNING ON, UH, MEETING THOSE OBJECTIVES WITH, UH, THE CHANGE IN PLAN HERE. THIS IS ALSO SOME SORT OF DETAIL ON, UH, ON HOW THAT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. AND, AND IN FACT, WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE GOING TO ACCELERATE SOME OF THOSE BENEFITS TO THE CITY, UH, WITH, WITH, UH, ENDEAVOR'S, UH, ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD ON, ON THEIR PROJECT QUICKLY. UH, THIS ALSO HIGHLIGHTS THAT FORMALLY WE HAD, UH, LESS, UH, WE HAD ACTUALLY, UH, MORE ACREAGE TO, TO WORK WITH. 'CAUSE WE, UH, HAD ANTICIPATED BEING ABLE TO PUT A WATER QUALITY POND ON THE ST UH, EXCUSE ME, THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE CAMPUS. AND THAT ENDED UP NOT PLAYING OUT. SO WE LOST SOME ACREAGE AND WE'RE STILL MEETING THESE REQUIREMENTS WITH LESS ACREAGE. UM, SO, UH, BASICALLY WANTED TO, TO HIGHLIGHT WITH THIS SLIDE THAT WE'RE SIMPLY TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT OF HAVING THE CITY COVER ALL OF NORTHLINE'S PHASE ONE COSTS. UM, WITH THIS, WITH THIS CHANGE IN STRUCTURE, UM, WE'VE PUT UP OVER $25 MILLION AT RISK TO CONSTRUCT ALL THE PUBLIC HORIZONTAL IMPROVEMENTS. SO WE'VE ESSENTIALLY DONE OUR SHARE OF, OF, OF, OF MEETING, UH, THE ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD AND, AND, AND LAY OUT A PROJECT THAT, UM, NOW WITH THE, THE KEY DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS COMING INTO THE, THE PICTURE CAN, UM, CAN MOVE FORWARD ON. AND WE'RE ALSO WILLING TO TAKE ON ADDITIONAL OBLIGATIONS AS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WITH MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO. UM, UH, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA SORT OF SKIM THROUGH SOME OF THIS, BUT IN, WE FEEL LIKE ENDEAVOR'S PLAN IS GONNA BE VERY, VERY ACCRETIVE TO THE PROJECT. WE FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO HELP STIMULATE A LOT OF OTHER, UH, UH, MORE HIGHER DENSE PROJECTS WITHIN NORTHLINE ON A FASTER TRACK. UM, THIS PLAN, WE FEEL IS, IS MIRRORED IN LOTS OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS AROUND, UH, THE AREA WHERE YOU HAVE, UM, YOU HAVE SOME SURFACE PARKING WITH RETAIL AT THE FRONTAGE, EVEN A PLACE LIKE THE DOMAIN WHERE YOU HAVE WHOLE FOODS RIGHT AT THE DOORSTEP. YOU'VE GOT, UH, SURFACE PARKING WITH, WITH ONE STORY RETAIL ALONG THE FRONTAGE. YOU HAVE PLACES LIKE MILLER IN AUSTIN DO THE SAME THING. SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO REPLICATE HOW A LOT OF THESE, THESE LARGE MIXED USE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED IN THE PAST. UM, WE'RE NOT REQUESTING ANYTHING MORE TODAY FROM THE CITY THAN WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED. WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL TIME. AND WE'RE ALSO, UH, UH, WILLING TO AGREE TO MORE. AND THIS KINDA LISTS WHAT, WHAT MORE WE'RE AGREEING TO. UM, AND THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS HERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, BRINGING RECLAIMED WATER TO THE PROJECT AND PAYING FOR SOME OF THAT, UH, BENEFIT, UH, GIVING, GIVING SORT OF NORTHLINE A, UH, A A GREAT EXAMPLE OF, OF, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH SOME OF THE WATER ISSUES HERE IN, IN LEANDER. SO WE FEEL IT'S VERY CRITICAL FOR NORTHLINE THAT IT'S ABLE TO DEVELOP ITS RETAIL IN THE NEAR TERM. UM, WE FEEL THAT THE ENDEAVOR PLAN IS A, A REAL COMPLIMENT TO OUR, OUR, UH, OUR, OUR PLAN OVERALL AND WILL REALLY HELP SPUR THE REST OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AS A, AS A REALLY IMPORTANT AMENITY. UM, WE WANT ENDEAVOR TO, TO, TO DO ITS, ITS ITS DEVELOPMENT HERE IN LEANER AND NOT LEAPFROG US TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW, I MEAN, I'M GONNA CERTAINLY LET ENDEAVOR SPEAK FOR ITSELF, BUT WE WANT THEM TO, TO, TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY. UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TREMENDOUS EXPERIENCE HAVING DEVELOPED, UH, OVER HALF OF THE, THE CEDAR PARK, UH, RETAIL, UM, THAT I'M SURE A LOT OF YOU, UH, SPEND YOUR MONEY. AND WE WANT EVERYONE TO SPEND THEIR MONEY HERE IN LEANDER INSTEAD. UM, ENDEAVOR ALSO IS UNIQUELY POSITIONED IN THE SENSE THAT THEY HAVE A FUND. UM, THIS IS, THIS WAS SORT OF THE PROBLEM WITH, UH, SOME OF OUR OTHER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS IN THE PAST, THAT THEY HAD TO GO OUT AND GET EQUITY AND THAT ENDED UP NOT BEING SUCCESSFUL. ST. JOHN'S, UM, ENDEAVOR, THEY HAVE, UH, THEY HAVE FUNDS IN PLACE AND, AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT UNIQUE. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S DIFFERENT NOW. WE'VE GOT PARTNERS REALLY ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. UM, AND SO, UH, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, I THINK WE HAVE THE RIGHT VERTICAL PARTNERS IN PLACE AND WE'RE EXCITED TO, TO TAKE THIS PROJECT TO THE NEXT LEVEL SO THAT THE [00:25:01] CITY'S REALLY PROUD OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. DID YOU WANNA TAKE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL RIGHT NOW OR INTRODUCE THEM? YEAH, WHY DON'T I INTRODUCE, UM, UH, CHARLIE TO TALK ABOUT THEIR PROJECT AND THEN WE CAN TAKE QUESTIONS TOGETHER. 'CAUSE SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS MAY BE ANSWERED BY CHARLIE. SOUNDS GOOD. SO CHARLIE, NO, . OH, WELL, I'M, UH, GLAD THAT I'M NOT ALEX, THAT I'M NOT FOR SURE I COULD DO THAT PRESENTATION LIKE THAT ANYMORE. I'M CHARLIE NORTHINGTON. I'M WITH ENDEAVOR REAL ESTATE GROUP IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. WE ARE A PRIVATE OWNED, UH, LOCALLY OWNED. IT STARTED IN 1999 WITH FIVE GUYS AND THEY WERE ALL PARTNERS AT THE TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY COMPANY, JUST CELEBRATED ITS 25TH ANNIVERSARY AND WE NOW HAVE 230 EMPLOYEES. SO WE HAVE DEVELOPED OVER THE COURSE OF 25 YEARS IN EXCESS OF ABOUT EITHER DEVELOPED OR ACQUIRED AN EXCESS OF $4 BILLION OF COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE AUSTIN MARKET AND THE THEATER PARK MARKET. UH, WE WERE THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER OF THE DOMAIN. WE DEVELOPED, UM, SOUTH PARK MEADOWS, WHICH IS STILL THE LARGEST COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, 1.6 MILLION SQUARE FEET. UH, WE DID THE IKEA PROJECT IN ROUND ROCK. UH, WE CALLED IT UNIVERSITY, UH, PLAZA SALTILLO, WHICH WAS A GROUND UP URBAN MIXED USE PROJECT THAT GOOGLE WAS OUR LEAD TENANT. TARGET WAS OUR RETAILER IN WHOLE FOODS. AND THEN WE BUILT 800 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON TOP OF THAT. UH, IN 2006, WE START STARTED 1890 RANCH, WHICH WAS A MILLION SQUARE FEET, COVERED A HUNDRED ACRES AND TOOK FOUR YEARS TO BUILD. UH, IN 2014 ISH, I'M A LITTLE HAZY, I BELIEVE WE STARTED THE PARK, WHICH WAS ABOUT 440,000 SQUARE FEET. UM, WE SOLD BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS. WE LOCKED 1890 RANCH, SO WELL, WE BOUGHT IT BACK, UH, IN 2019, LITERALLY RIGHT BEFORE COVID. I THINK WE CLOSED AND THE GOVERNMENT SHUT EVERYBODY DOWN ABOUT TWO MONTHS LATER. UM, WE'VE ALWAYS LIKED THIS AREA. I'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT 180 3 A IS THE NORTH DALLAS TOLLWAY FOR ANY OF YOU GUYS EVER GO TO DALLAS. YOU CAN SEE IT, YOU CAN FEEL IT, YOU CAN BREATHE IT, IT'S THERE. UM, LEANDER HAS BEEN UNFORTUNATELY A LITTLE BIT BEHIND CEDAR PARK 'CAUSE THEY GOT AN EARLIER JUMP ON IT AND THE TOLLWAY GOT THERE FIRST, AND SO EVERYBODY STARTED PICKING LOCATIONS IN THAT AREA. AND, AND YOU KNOW, KINDA THE REST IS HISTORY. IT'S NOW TIME TO MOVE TO THE NEXT PHASE. UH, ENDEAVOR ACTUALLY HAS A VERY SMALL PROJECT CALLED SOUTHBROOK, LITERALLY RIGHT ACROSS FROM NORTHLINE ON THE OLD 180 3 JUST NORTH OF HEB THAT WE ARE BUILDING. UH, ALSO ONE OF MY CLIENTS HAS PURCHASED LAND HOME DEPOT, WHICH I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF, WHICH WILL BE ALSO A VERY BIG CATALYST FOR THIS COMMUNITY. UM, AND THEN WE GET TO NORTHLINE. AND WHILE WE WOULD LOVE TO BUILD A MUCH LARGER PROJECT AT NORTHLINE, INTEREST RATES BEING WHAT THEY ARE AND CAP RATE EXITS BEING WHAT THEY ARE, WE HAVE DECIDED TO START WITH SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS VERY MANAGEABLE AND VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY. AND SO WHAT WE'VE DESIGNED IS 17 ACRES BASICALLY. AND WE'VE LEFT AS A PLACEHOLDER, EVERYTHING BEHIND IT. OUR ORIGINAL PLAN WAS PROBABLY CLOSER TO 200,000 SQUARE FEET, BUT WHEN WE WENT IN AND TRIED TO UNDERWRITE IT AND UNDERSTAND IT, THE RISK JUST WAS NOT THERE FOR US TO TAKE AT THIS TIME. SO WE CAME BACK TO ALEX AND WITH HIS COOPERATION, HE HAS ALLOWED US TO COME WITH A SMALLER PROJECT THAT WE THINK WILL JUMPSTART EVERYTHING IN NORTHLINE. AND WE THINK WE CAN BRING IN SOME REALLY QUALITY TENANTS THAT HAVE WANTED TO BE HERE THAT JUST AREN'T HERE BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN A PLACE FOR THEM. UH, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE A GROCERY STORE ANCHORED SHOPPING CENTER. WE THINK IT'S REAL IMPORTANT FOR EVERYDAY TRAFFIC AND OFTEN THAT PARTICULAR COMPONENT WILL BE ABLE TO BRING SOME OF THE OTHER FOOD USE GUYS, SOME OF THE SERVICE GUYS THAT FOLLOW THE GROCERY STORE GUYS AROUND. AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO SET THE BAR A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE NORMAL GUY WHO'S JUST BUILDING A STRIP CENTER. WE'VE KIND OF DONE THAT ACROSS THE STREET AT SOUTH BROOK. AND SO THIS WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE TO GET INTO. IT'LL BE MORE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD. YOU'LL SEE HERE IN A MINUTE SOME OF THE RENDERINGS THAT, SOME IDEAS THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH FROM OUR ARCHITECTS IS FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT, [00:30:01] WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. UH, AND IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, VERY MODERN, VERY COMFORTABLE, VERY WALKABLE. UM, WE ARE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, FIELD OF ASPHALT. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET AWAY FROM THAT. UM, UNLESS YOU HAVE UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNTS OF DENSITY, YOU JUST REALLY NEED TO SURFACE PARK THINGS IN THIS ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW. SO I'M GONNA KIND OF CRUISE THROUGH THIS AND, UH, I'M GONNA GO TO THE NEXT ONE. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME THINGS THAT OUR ARCHITECT, GARY PAYNE, WHO HELPED US DESIGN 1890 RANCH. UH, WE'VE HIRED HIM TO BE THE ARCHITECT ON THIS PROJECT. AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO USE A LOT OF NATURAL SURFACES. UH, YOU KNOW, SOME BRICK AND SOME LIMESTONE AND YOU KNOW, SOME WOOD, BUT WE WANNA MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT'S REAL KIND OF COMFORTABLE, REAL HOMEY. WE THINK THAT'S GONNA BE REAL IMPORTANT FOR WHAT GOES ON BEHIND US. THIS WILL BE THE TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE AT THE CORNER. WE'RE GONNA TRY TO MAKE A LARGE PLAZA AREA THAT'S A GATHERING SPOT TO WHERE WE CAN OPEN RESTAURANTS AND ACCOMMODATE MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE BY HAVING OUTSIDE AREAS AS WELL. SO WE WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME TO THE OUTSIDE PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE UP ALONG 180 3 A. THAT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY, I'M GUESSING MOST OF THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE A LOT OF FOOD ORIENTED. THOSE ARE THE GUYS THAT ARE ACTUALLY VERY AGGRESSIVE RIGHT NOW IN THE MARKET. UH, ANYWHERE FROM THE QSRS TO THE SIT DOWNS TO SOME OF THE ENTERTAINMENT GUYS AS WELL. UM, AND I THINK IF WE CAN EXECUTE THIS AND IF WE EXECUTE IT CORRECTLY, WE'LL ATTRACT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE BEHIND IT THAT WOULDN'T GO THE FIRST PHASE BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOTHING THERE YET FOR 'EM TO SEE. A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAVE TO BUILD THINGS FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND AND REALLY BELIEVE IN IT ONCE YOU GET IT BUILT. IT'S AMAZING. I REMEMBER WHEN WE BUILT 1890 RANCH, EVERYBODY SAID, YOU GUYS HAVE LOST YOUR MIND. THERE'S NOT EVEN A TOLLWAY THERE. WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WELL, A MILLION SQUARE FEET LATER, WE LOOKED PRETTY SMART. UM, AND SO I THINK WE CAN DO THAT HERE. AND I THINK THE CITY OF LEANDER WILL BENEFIT FROM HAVING US AT THIS PROJECT. UH, THINGS TAKE A LONG TIME. PEOPLE ALWAYS LOOK AT THE DOMAIN AND GO, MAN, THAT'S A GREAT PROJECT. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU GUYS GOT THAT DONE SO QUICK. WE CALL IT A 19 YEAR OVERNIGHT SUCCESS AT HOME. IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR THESE BIG PROJECTS. AND YOU KNOW, ALEX TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT. THE ECONOMY HAS NOT BEEN VERY GOOD THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, EVEN THOUGH GLOBALLY IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GREAT. THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS HAS TAKEN A HUGE HIT BECAUSE OF HIGH INTEREST RATES. AND ALL OF OUR MARKET IS REALLY DICTATED BY WHAT I CAN SELL SOMETHING FOR AND WHAT I CAN BUILD IT FOR. AND RIGHT NOW, THE YIELD TO BUILD SOMETHING IS ALMOST THE SAME AS THE YIELD TO EXIT, WHICH DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. SO IT'S VERY HARD TO BUILD SOMETHING. IT'S VERY HARD TO ATTRACT CAPITAL. ENDEAVOR LUCKILY HAS A FUND. WE'VE RAISED OVER A BILLION DOLLARS THE LAST THREE YEARS, DISCRETIONARY FUNDS TO BUILD THINGS. UH, WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE MULTIFAMILY GROUP THAT I THINK WE'VE GOT 3000 UNITS ALONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW JUST IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. AND SO WE'VE TAKEN WHAT WE THINK WE CAN DEVELOP. WE THINK WE'VE BUILT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY IN THIS PROJECT LONG TERM. AND I THINK WHOEVER COMES BEHIND US, IF IT'S NOT US, WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, THIS GOT STARTED AND NOW WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GO FROM HERE. UM, WE SEE A LOT OF PROJECTS AND ALEX KNOWS, I'VE TOLD HIM THIS, THIS PROJECT HAS ALL OF THE MAKINGS OF SOMETHING THAT SHOULD REALLY BE SPECTACULAR BEFORE IT'S ALWAYS FINISHED. AND I THINK IT WILL BE, I THINK WITH A LITTLE LUCK IF HE GETS LUCKY AND GETS THE ECONOMY TO TURN AROUND A LITTLE BIT ON HIM, YOU GUYS WILL BE OFF TO THE RACES AND NOBODY WILL EVER LOOK BACK. UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT ENDEAVOR, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE OPERATE NOW IN I THINK SIX STATES. UH, NASHVILLE IS PROBABLY OUR SECOND LARGEST DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE CURRENTLY GOT TWO HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED THERE. OUR THIRD ONE IS ALMOST FINISHED. WE JUST RECENTLY ACQUIRED TWO OTHER TRACKS TO GO BUILD SOME RESIDENTIAL TOWERS ON ALONG WITH HOTELS. WE'RE GONNA BUILD OUR FIRST HOTEL ON OUR THIRD PHASE OF ONE OF OUR PROJECTS IN NASHVILLE. WE ALSO ARE IN SAN DIEGO. WE HAVE A PROJECT, WE HAVE, UH, OWNERSHIP OF LAND IN DENVER ON A BIG MIXED USE PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET OFF THE GROUND FOR THREE YEARS. UH, VERY SMALL INTEREST IN CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA. AND THEN WE'VE GOT TWO ACTIVE PROJECTS IN SALT LAKE CITY THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY BUILDING. UH, WE'VE GOT PROPERTY IN DALLAS THAT WE WILL EVENTUALLY BUILD A HIGH-RISE ON. UM, AND THE LATEST PROJECT THAT ENDEAVORS ASSOCIATED WITH, AND YOU'VE PROBABLY BEEN READING ABOUT IT SOME IN THE PAPERS, IS THE AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN SITE. UH, WE WERE CHOSEN FROM 50 DIFFERENT COMPANIES ACROSS THE US TO [00:35:01] BE THE COX FAMILY'S PARTNER. UM, WE'VE GOT ENTITLEMENTS, I BELIEVE TO BUILD OVER 4 MILLION SQUARE FEET THERE. UH, MAYBE ONE OF THE PREMIER PIECES OF PROPERTY IN THE COUNTRY WITH THE LAKE FRONTAGE LOOKING AT DOWNTOWN AUSTIN. THAT PROJECT THOUGH, TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A TIMELINE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON ENTITLEMENTS FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS AND WE'RE PROBABLY STILL TWO YEARS FROM COMING OUTTA THE GROUND. WE'RE STILL IN OUR DESIGN PHASE. UH, I'M GONNA STOP THERE AND I'M SURE THERE'S A FEW QUESTIONS BOTH FOR ALEX OR MYSELF, EITHER ONE. UH, I'D BE GLAD TO HELP ANSWER 'EM IF I CAN AND IF NOT, I'LL GET AN ANSWER AND GET BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU COUNSEL. ARE WE ALL JUST GOOD ? I THINK, YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. GO AHEAD. I I JUST HAVE ONE LITTLE QUESTION THAT I WROTE DOWN WHEN, UM, MR. TYBERG WAS, WAS TALKING, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT MAINTENANCE ON SOMETHING. AND THIS IS SO SMALL, IT WAS JUST A QUESTION THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING MAINTENANCE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE CITIES OR YOU'RE TAKING OVER MAINTENANCE, CORRECT? WHAT WAS THAT? YEAH, UM, A COUPLE AREAS. THERE'S, UH, WE BUILT TWO, UH, PONDS, WATER QUALITY PONDS. MM-HMM. . AND WE'RE GONNA MAINTAIN THOSE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. THOSE ARE CITY PONDS. OKAY. UM, AND THEN ALL THE PUBLIC STREET SCAPES, UM, THOSE ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, CITY RIGHT AWAY. MM-HMM. , WE WILL MAINTAIN THOSE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OKAY. TO, TO, TO MAINTAIN THOSE, THOSE AT A, AT A, AT A STANDARD AND A CALIBER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL WE WANT TO, TO MAINTAIN AT NORTHLINE. OKAY. DO YOU FEEL THAT THAT'S HIGHER THAN THE CITY OF LEANDRO WOULD BE? OR? I, I DON'T KNOW UNLESS THE CITY WOULD DO IT AND WE WOULD WATCH THE CITY MAINTAIN IT. BUT TYPICALLY THE WAY THAT, UH, DEVELOPMENTS HAPPEN IN TYPICALLY A A A DEVELOPMENT WOULD WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT, THAT AREA MM-HMM. , UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AT THE HIGHEST CALIBER. AND FRANKLY, IT'S, IT'S A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE MUNICIPALITY THAT WE'RE TAKING ON. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHY I'M QUESTIONING IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WAS THERE ANY ANY HESITATION OR PUSHBACK FROM, FROM US AT ALL? 'CAUSE I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS GREAT. YOU'RE INABILITY, THERE'S NO PUSHBACK. MAINTAIN IT. THAT'S LONG TERM. THAT'S NOT A EXACTLY, THAT'S NOT A SHORT TERM, YOU KNOW, CORRECT. COMMITMENT. THAT'S A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT. SO YES. IT JUST, THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL. I MEAN, IF YOU GO TO 1890 RANCH, THE ROADS THAT ALL SURROUND THAT PROJECT ENDEAVOR HAS MAINTAINED THEM FROM DAY ONE WITH A LICENSE AGREEMENT FROM THE CITY. MM-HMM. . AND WE BUILT THEM TO THEIR STANDARDS, DEDICATED 'EM TO THE CITY, AND THEN WE TOOK OVER THE MAINTENANCE. OKAY. SO THAT IT WOULD ALL LOOK THE SAME ALWAYS. SO IT'S NOT OUT OF THE ORDINARY THEN? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. NOT AT ALL. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS, THAT WAS REALLY ALL, EVERYTHING ELSE. SOUNDS GOOD. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A FEW QUESTIONS HERE AND THERE, BUT THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. YES, IT IS . UH, BUT YOU DID A GREAT JOB REPRESENTING IT AND, AND EXPLAINING IT. I THINK YOU HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS. SO I I I, I WILL SAY, ONCE I LOOK OVER EVERYTHING, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY, ANY REAL BLARING QUESTIONS. WELL, AS, AS YOU ALL KNOWS THERE ARE, JUST REACH OUT. THANK YOU. SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S, WELL FIRST OFF, I THINK IT'S VERY, IT IS, IT'S ALMOST GONNA BE, UM, MANDATORY THAT A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS WOULD WANT TO DO THAT FOR THEMSELVES. SO JUST CONFIRMING THAT AS WELL TOO, UM, FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT WERE STATED THERE TOO. SO, ON PAGE, THIS IS FOR OUR, IN OUR PACKET PAGE 27 28, THERE WAS THE FIVE, BASICALLY THE FIVE ASKS THAT YOU'RE ASKING THERE TOO. SO I'M JUST GONNA, AS FAR AS, UM, I'M GONNA BE LOOKING FOR STAFF'S FEEDBACK ON THESE FIVE ASKS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MAKING SENSE FOR US TOO. AND THEN ALSO ANOTHER THING IS, UM, WHEN YOU MENTIONED CITY RESPONSIBLE FOR PHASE ONE DEVELOPMENT COSTS AND WE'VE, THERE, WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT LIKE EVEN, UM, RECENTLY EVEN ABOUT, UH, POTENTIAL DRAINAGE, UH, CONVERSATIONS AND EVERYTHING. IS THAT PART OF PHASE ONE DEVELOPMENT COSTS? OKAY. NO, THAT'S NOT OKAY. THAT'S, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S A DIFFERENT COST AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'D LIKE TO GIVE UP SOME OF THOSE PHASE ONE COSTS TO COVER. I UNDERSTAND THAT. YEAH. AND THAT'S GOT IT. AND THAT'S FOR, THERE YOU GO. THAT'S PART NUMBER FOUR. AND, AND YOUR ASK, AND JUST FOR SOME, SOME HISTORY HERE, THERE ARE TWO MAJOR CHANNELS OF WHAT WE CALL PASS THROUGH DRAINAGE. MM-HMM. THAT ARE HITTING THE NORTH LINE SITE FROM THE NORTH. AND THOSE ARE ALL COMING FROM ST. DAVID'S. MM-HMM. . AND THOSE ARE ALL CAPTURED IN OUR PHASE ONE AREA. MM-HMM. , WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS HALFWAY DOWN THE TOLLWAY CT, RMAS 180 3 A IS DUMPING A BUNCH OF ADDITIONAL WATER ON OUR SITE, AND IT'S AT A SIGN, FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT COST FOR US TO MANAGE AND HANDLE THAT. AND SO WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE SOME OF OUR MONEY TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE NEAR TERM. RIGHT. AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE GONNA GET, I, I'M, I THINK STAFF'S ALREADY PREPARED THAT WE'RE GONNA GET UPDATED ON THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL TOO. MM-HMM. COOL. AND THERE, AND THERE WILL BE SOME ADDITIONAL ASK FROM ENDEAVOR. WE DON'T, WE HAVEN'T [00:40:01] QUANTIFIED THOSE YET. WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME LARGE OFFSITE COSTS THAT ORDINARILY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE FOR A SMALL DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS, BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY READY TO TALK ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THE PROJECT AND CONTINUE TO HAVE MEETINGS WITH C-T-R-M-A AND UNDERSTAND THEIR PROCESS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THOSE ARE. RIGHT. AND FOR A CITY THAT'S THAT, WELL, LOT, MOST OF US WEREN'T HERE WHEN THIS ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WAS MADE AND THE WAY THAT IT WAS ALL PUT FORWARD. SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING SMART AND, AND PUTTING THE CITY IN THE BEST POSITION. WHILE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE EITHER. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EVERYBODY'S UNDERSTANDS. THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ANOTHER ASK HERE, BUT THAT'S ALSO, IT'S, IT'S GRAY AND, UH, AND, UH, AND, AND, AND WE LOVE YOU AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE EVERYWHERE OUT THERE. AND WE WANT YOU HERE TOO. WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT SURE. WE'RE DOING THE BEST BY OUR CITIZENS. YEP. ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL? OKAY. I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY FOR STAFF. UM, THIS WOULD BE FOR PAIGE AND ROBERT. I THINK IT GOES TO BOTH OF Y'ALL. ASK NUMBER FIVE, THE ABILITY TO ADD ACREAGE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVELY. ARE WE ABLE TO DRAFT THIS IN A WAY THAT IT CAN BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY OR IS IT MORE OF A WE ARE OPEN TO IT WHEN YOU COME BACK? SINCE IT'S ALL T CONTRACTS? LIKE IF THEY NEEDED MORE, YOU'RE SAYING IF THE, IF THEY NEEDED BIGGER FOOTPRINT SOMEWHERE TO, IF THEY WANNA DEVELOP THAT BACK AREA FOR, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VERY CLEAR WHEN WE LEAVE ON WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO. MM-HMM. WE WOULD NEED MORE DETAIL TO FULLY OKAY. ANALYZE WHETHER THAT COULD BE DONE. BUT IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU WOULD ADOPT AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD AUTHORIZE IT. OKAY. AND SET THE PARAMETERS. SO THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT. OKAY. I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THE ASK. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A MECHANISM FOR IT. SO ALMOST LIKE A PREDETERMINED AMOUNT THAT COULD BE ADDED TO IT. IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN BY PARAMETERS? YES. OKAY. YEAH. I THINK HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT'S PROPOSED AND THERE'S A WAY TO ACHIEVE IT. IF, IF THE COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE OF IT AND STAFF DETERMINES THEY SUPPORT, WE CAN GET THERE LEGALLY. THANK YOU. AND UH, ROBERT, I KNOW THAT IMPACTS THE TS. YOU CAN JUST NOD YOUR HEAD IF THE ANSWER IS YES, EVERYTHING PAIGE SAID IS FINE WITH THE TS TOO, OR IS THERE A STEP THERE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE AS WELL IN AGREEMENT WITH PAIGE? OKAY. WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH PAIGE . PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, ANYTHING ELSE? SO, JUST TO BE CLEAR, ARE YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE, THE, THE FUNDS THEMSELVES TRANSFERRING? CORRECT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE CHECKING ON? THE RESPONSE? MM-HMM, , SO IT'S, OH, GO AHEAD. I THINK THERE ARE TWO ISSUES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. ONE IS THE ADDITIONAL POTENTIAL, 18 ACRES OR SO, AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT CAN BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY. THE SECOND IS THE REQUEST TO, IN ESSENCE, IF THE TS ENDS BEFORE THE PAYMENTS THAT THE NORTHLINE IS EXPECTING, IF THE TS ENDS BEFORE THOSE PAYMENTS OCCUR, THEN THERE'S SOME MECHANISM WHERE THEY CAN STILL GET, UM, THE AMOUNTS AND COUNSEL. WE ARE WORKING WITH NORTHLINE AND, AND WORKING WITH ENDEAVOR. WE STILL NEED TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION AND STILL NEED TO HAVE SOME MORE DIALOGUE AND DISCUSSION. WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, WELL, LET ME NOT SPEAK FOR ALEX, BUT WHAT WE WERE HOPING FROM THE COUNCILS IS, IS IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN PURSUING, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS AND STAFF WOULD NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THESE ITEMS. UH, THIS INFORMATION IS DEVELOPING, WE MEET BIWEEKLY. UH, SOME OF THE INFORMATION IS AS NEW AS THIS WEEK, ALTHOUGH THE CONCEPT'S BEEN THERE, BUT THERE'S SOME DETAILS THAT ARE STILL BEING WORKED OUT. AND UH, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT MR. PARTON WILL, UH, BE ABLE TO, UH, PROVIDE YOU SOME MORE CONCRETE ANSWERS. PARDON UPON JUST A, JUST A QUESTION. WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THEM, UM, BIWEEKLY OR, AND THAT WILL INCLUDE ENDEAVOR AS WELL OR? ABSOLUTELY. UM, MR. TYBERG IS THE LEAD IN THIS FROM THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE. SO WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH HIM ON A BIWEEKLY BASIS OR WHENEVER HE WOULD LIKE TO MEET OR IF WE NEED TO MEET ABOUT SOMETHING. SO THAT IS ABSOLUTELY GOING TO CONTINUE. THERE MAY BE SOME PORTION WHERE SOME THINGS ARE HAPPENING THAT WE'LL END UP MEETING WEEKLY OR, UM, THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME PORTIONS WHERE WE SAY, WELL, WE CAN SKIP THIS MEETING 'CAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION'S ALREADY UNDERWAY AND THERE ARE GROUPS THAT ARE ALREADY MEETING RELATIVE TO THAT. SO, BUT, UH, WE WILL DEFINITELY KEEP THE, UH, COMMUNICATION GOING. ROBIN HAS, AND HER STAFF HAVE BEEN GREAT AND SHE'S BEEN GREAT IN ORGANIZING OTHER STAFF MEMBERS WHO NEED TO BE INVOLVED, LIKE ENGINEERING INFRASTRUCTURE, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SOUNDS GOOD. SO OVERALL, LIKE, UNLESS WE HAD ANY, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UM, CONCERNS OR IS NOT OKAY WITH THE GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT'S [00:45:01] BEING DESCRIBED HERE? THAT'S EXACTLY CORRECT. RIGHT. SO IF NOBODY , FROM WHAT I CAN GATHER, STAFF HAS SUGGESTED YOU REMOVE THAT SECTION OF, OF LAND FROM THE P THAT'S THE BEST WAY OR IT WOULDN'T BE SUGGESTED. SO I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT WE CAN DO THAT. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, OF APPROVING IT. AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE ASK BECAUSE, AND, AND THIS IS, IT DOES SEEM KIND OF A COMMON SENSE THING TO DO, UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW , THE PAPERWORK MAY BE DIFFERENT. UM, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYTHING, ALL THE, THE T'S ARE CROSSED AND THE I'S ARE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? T'S ARE CROSSED, I ARE DOTTED, UM, WITH THAT 17 ACRES AND THE MONEY FOLLOWING THE PROJECT I GUESS. UM, AND THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT COMES BACK LATER. AND I THINK YOU'RE ASKING THAT, IT'S JUST VERY CLEAR. I THINK WE'RE JUST SAYING WE'RE KEEPING IT SIMPLE FOR NOW YOU'RE ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL, LIKE WHAT IS OUR GENERAL JUST IN GEN IN GENERAL. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE MAYOR'S GONNA PROBABLY ASK US FOR RIGHT NOW IS IN GENERAL, IN GENERAL, ARE WE GOOD WITH IT? UM, BUT I WANT YOU DEFER FOR A MOMENT TO OUR CITY MANAGER JUST REAL QUICKLY. UM, TO BE CLEAR, THE 17 ACRES IS PART OF, UM, UH, THE PUT REMOVING THOSE FROM THE, REMOVING THAT FROM THE, PUT THE BIGGER QUESTION OR AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION IS, CAN THE 18 ACRES HAPPEN ADMINISTRATIVELY, SHOULD ENDEAVOR DECIDE THEY WANT TO PURSUE DEVELOPING THOSE? SO OUR MESSAGE IS WE NEED SOME MORE TIME TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND WORK THAT OUT. IF IT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL'S INTERESTED IN, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT SOME MORE WITH, WITH, UH, ALEX. AND, UH, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER EREK IS RIGHT. IF THERE'S SOME CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE OR QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE IN ADDITION FOR THE, UH, DEVELOPERS, IF YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR US, WE, WE, WE WILL WRITE THOSE DOWN AND, AND COME BACK AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK THROUGH THOSE. AND, AND MY ONLY QUESTION OR CONCERN WOULD'VE BEEN SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT AND I I DON'T, YOU'RE THE DEVELOPER IS GONNA BE VERY INTERESTED IN HOW THE 17 ACRES AFFECTS THE CONNECTIVITY AND THE FLOW THERE TOO. AND SO THAT WOULD'VE BEEN MY ONLY CONCERN THERE. AND, AND, AND, AND I'M SURE THAT'S GONNA BE TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE YOU HAVE A VESTED INTEREST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING COMES TOGETHER. AND WE'VE TRIED TO MICROPHONE WHY IT'S COMING EARLY. MR. NORTHINGTON MICROPHONE PLEASE. I'M SORRY. TALKING, SORRY. , UH, THINK THINKING IN THE FUTURE, WE HAVE TRIED OUR BEST TO ALIGN OUR DRIVES TO WHERE IF WE DID DEVELOP THE BACK PART OR IF ANYBODY DEVELOPED THE BACK PART, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE. AND THOSE SAME DRIVE AISLES COULD BE USED TO ACCESS THOSE POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS. 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE REAL IMPORTANT. AND SO WELL, WE'VE INTENTIONALLY LINED THEM UP AND SEPARATED OUR BUILDINGS. SO WE'RE, THAT PATH WILL ALWAYS BE THERE. JUST A QUICK QUESTION TOO. YES. UM, IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL, WILL YOU GUYS PLAN TO DO MORE DEVELOPMENT AT NORTHLINE OR, I HOPE SO, YES. OH, OKAY. YEAH. SEE HOW THAT ONE GOES. I WOULD HOPE ALEX WOULD EXTEND THE OLIVE RANCH AND LET US CONTINUE. WOULD YOU ADD? ABSOLUTELY. AND, AND, AND, AND ESSENTIALLY I WANTED TO, TO FOLLOW THE, THE ANSWER TO YOUR, TO YOUR QUESTION. WE DO INTEND TO HAVE, UH, ENDEAVOR DEVELOP SOME MULTIFAMILY BEHIND, NOT DIRECTLY IN THAT AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IN OTHER BLOCKS. AND SO THEY'RE ALSO VERY MUCH INCENTIVIZED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS RETAIL DEVELOPMENT INTEGRATES NICELY WITH THE REST OF THE PROJECT. NOT JUST WE, BUT WHAT THEY DO AS WELL. UM, AND I WANNA JUMP IN AND SAY I WAS VERY CRITICAL AT THE TOURS, UH, MEETING THAT IT WASN'T MORE WALKABLE, BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOME ASPECTS HERE THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT TO US TODAY. I LOVE THE OUTDOOR PATIO AREA, THE, THE LITTLE AWNING SORT OF WALKING THROUGH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THAT, THE WALL THAT JUST EXISTS AND YOU WALK THROUGH. UM, I THOUGHT THOSE WERE ALL VERY THOUGHTFUL AND INTRIGUING. UM, AND MY HOPE IS THAT, UH, THIS IS A RAGING SUCCESS AND YOU DEVELOP THE NEXT PART AND MAKE IT EVEN MORE WALKABLE AND JUST LEADS RIGHT INTO THE REST OF NORTHLINE. I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU ALL ARE ON BOARD WITH US. COUNSEL. ANYTHING ELSE? ALMOST ON BOARD IF I READ THAT RIGHT? HE DID NOT OBJECT . ANYTHING ELSE? COUNSEL? ALRIGHT WITH THAT THEN WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN OUR BRIEFING WORKSHOP AT 6:51 PM PLEASE BE BACK AT SEVEN O'CLOCK FOR OUR MEETING. THANK YOU. [4. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.] GOOD EVENING. TODAY IS THURSDAY, APRIL 18TH, 2024, AND THE TIME IS 7:04 PM AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL. PASTOR CHRIS WIMBERLEY OF THE ELLA HILLS CHURCH WILL BE PROVIDING THE INVOCATION, FOLLOWING THE INVOCATION. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE. GOOD EVENING. [00:50:05] YOU BROUGHT HELPERS TODAY. ALRIGHT. HI MAYOR. COUNCIL, EVERYBODY. I GOT MY FAMILY WITH ME TONIGHT. THEY'RE GONNA HELP ME PRAY. WE JUST GOT BACK FROM T-BALL AND UH, AND WE'RE JUST GONNA THANK THE LORD TONIGHT. UH, FATHER, THANK YOU LORD, IT'S ON MY HEART TONIGHT JUST TO SIMPLY GIVE YOU THANKS. AND SO WE THANK YOU FOR THE CITY OF LE LEANDER. LORD, WE LOVE LIVING HERE, LORD. AND WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS AMAZING COMMUNITY. WE THANK YOU FOR THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL THAT POUR OUT THEIR LIVES, MAKE SO MANY SACRIFICES THAT WE'RE UNAWARE OF. AND, AND SO WE THANK YOU FOR THEM, THAT THEY'VE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO BE A BLESSING TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE THANK YOU FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS, THE POLICE OFFICERS, THE EMS, THE FIRST RESPONDERS THAT LORD, THEY'RE THERE ON THE FRONT LINES, PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR US. WE THANK YOU FOR THEM. LORD. WE THANK YOU FOR THE PRINCIPLES, THE EDUCATORS, ALL THOSE THAT SERVE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, LORD, RAISING UP THE NEXT GENERATION. WE THANK YOU FOR THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, THE ROAD WORKERS THAT ARE BLESSING ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT, LORD THAT'S COMING AND THAT IS HERE. AND WELL, WE'RE JUST GRATEFUL, UH, LORD, PERSONALLY, I KNOW FOR ME AND MY FAMILY, WE THANK YOU FOR THE GREATEST SACRIFICE EVER FOUND IN JESUS. LORD, WE THANK YOU THAT THERE IS A SAVIOR AND I THANK YOU SO MUCH, LORD, FOR SAVING US. AND I PRAY THAT IF THERE'S ANY HERE TONIGHT THAT DON'T KNOW THAT I PRAY THEY WOULD JUST GET A LITTLE TASTE OF YOUR LOVE TONIGHT JUST IN HEARING THAT LORD. AND SO WOULD YOU BLESS THE MEETING TONIGHT? WOULD YOU POUR OUT WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR TO THE JUSTICE BY A PATE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL. ITEM [5. Roll Call.] NUMBER FIVE, CITY SECRETARY CRABTREE, PLEASE CALL ROLE COUNCIL MEMBER CATHERINE BATTALION PARKER HERE. MAYOR ESME. I'M SORRY. MAYOR PROTE. ESME MKE LONGORIA. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER NICOLE THOMPSON. PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BECKY ROSS. HERE, MAYOR CHRISTINE DELAL. HERE. QUORUM IS PRESENT AND THE CITY COUNCIL IS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS. UM, ITEM [6. Presentation of plaque and accomplishments for outgoing Interim City Manager. Oath of Office for newly appointed City Manager. [A brief reception will be held in foyer following the Oath of Office.]] NUMBER SIX IS VERY SPECIAL TO US TONIGHT. UM, THIS IS A RARE MOMENT WHERE WE HAVE TWO CITY MANAGERS. SO FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR SO, WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH HAVING MR. ISAAC TURNER WITH US, UM, KEEPING US STEADY AND SANE AND DOING ALL OF THE GOOD WORK. AND STARTING THIS WEEK, WE HAVE OUR PERMANENT CITY MANAGER, TODD PARTON WITH US AT HIS FIRST MEETING. UM, AND SO WE'RE GONNA DO SOME CEREMONIAL THINGS, SO I'M REALLY GLAD YOU ALL ARE HERE TO, UM, TO CELEBRATE WITH US. UM, MR. TURNER, DID YOU WANNA START WITH YOUR SLIDESHOW BEFORE WE ALL RIGHT? YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA GIMME A MICROPHONE SO YOU CAN'T HEAR ME PROBABLY FOR THE BEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IT'S OKAY. I I I HAVE A MALFUNCTION. I NEED TO TELL YOU. MY EYES LEAK, SO IF THAT HAPPENS, I'M PREPARED. UM, AND HERE WE GO TO THE HONORABLE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL. MAYOR CHRISTINE DELLY, MAYOR PRO, TIM ESMI, MCKEE LONGORIA. PLACE ONE, , CATHERINE PATEL. PARKER PLACE THREE. DAVID MCDONALD, PLACE FOUR. NICOLE THOMPSON, PLACE FIVE. CHRIS SERNA AND PLACE SIX BECKY ROSS. I WANNA EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THIS PRIVILEGE. THE MALFUNCTION IS HAPPENING , TO ALLOW ME THIS PRIVILEGE. UM, IT MEANS A LOT FOR YOU TO ENTRUST THIS CITY TO ME, TO THIS ORGANIZATION, TO ME, AND I APPRECIATE THAT TREMENDOUSLY TO THE, UH, SENIOR STAFF. I KNOW WHEN A NEW MANAGER COMES IN, , YOU'RE ON HERE FOR A SECOND. . I KNOW WHEN A MANAGER COMES IN, THERE'S ALL KIND OF ANGST AND THAT SORT OF THING. I APPRECIATE YOU WELCOMING ME AND GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE YOU. SO I WANNA SAY THANK YOU ALSO TO THE LINE EMPLOYEES. DORIS SAYS THEY'RE OPERATIONAL STAFF. UM, WE COULDN'T GET ANYTHING DONE WITHOUT THE PEOPLE THAT RESPOND TO YOUR CALLS WITHOUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEHIND THE DESK FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE AND TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY. I WANNA [00:55:01] SAY I APPRECIATE THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING YOU. IT HAS BEEN MY HONOR. UM, I HAD TWO GOALS COMING IN AND PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME EVEN A LITTLE BIT PROBABLY CAN RECITE THESE BY HEART. I TOLD THE COUNCIL EVEN IN THE INTERVIEW, I WANTED TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND I WANT THEM TO MISS ME WHEN I'M GONE. IF I ACCOMPLISH THAT, I'VE ACCOMPLISHED MY GOALS. THE COUNCIL GAVE ME THREE AREAS OF FOCUS AND NONE OF THE MOVEMENT, NONE OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE COULD HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT THE STAFF AND WITHOUT THE COUNCIL, WITHOUT THE EMPLOYEES, AND TO SOME DEGREE WITHOUT THE CITIZENS HERE. SO I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE FIRST ITEM THAT THEY WANTED TO WORK ON WAS IMPROVING TRUST AND COMMUNICATION. I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO ALL THE WORK SITES AND MEET WITH EMPLOYEES WHO WERE PRESENT ON THOSE DAYS. AND I APPRECIATED THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE LEADERSHIP TEAM ENGAGED IN A STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION TO WORK ON COMMUNICATION AND TRUST AND DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB WITH THAT. WE'VE ALSO, UM, INCREASED COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE COUNCIL AND WITH THE STAFF AND WITH THE CITIZENS. WE'RE TRYING TO BE MORE PROMPT AND MORE THOROUGH IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS. WE HAVE ALSO IMPROVED SOME PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR WATER PARTNER CITIES, WITH, UH, TRANSPORTATION PARTNERS, UH, WITH CITIZENS, WITH DEVELOPERS, JUST TO TRY TO, UM, MAKE PROJECTS HAPPEN BETTER, MAKE, UH, MAKE THIS A BETTER CITY. SO WE WORKED ON THAT AND WE CONTINUED TO WORK ON THAT. THE OTHER THING THE COUNCIL WANTED TO MAKE SURE WAS THAT WE STAYED ON SCHEDULE WITH ALL OF OUR PROJECTS. NOW, A LOT OF THIS, I'M STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOU SEE ME, BUT THERE ARE STAFF PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY MAKING THIS HAPPEN AND MAKE SURE THAT THESE THINGS ROLL ALONG. UM, YOU SEE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THERE. I WON'T GO OVER ALL OF THOSE, BUT MOST ALL OF THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY JUST WENT THROUGH THE RAW WATERLINE REPLACEMENT. UH, THAT WAS ON TIME. THANK YOU TO THE ENGINEERING FOLKS AND, AND SOME OTHER BCR UUA PEOPLE. UH, JUST THANK YOU FOR MAKING ALL OF THIS CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. UM, WE ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER PARTNER CITIES MEETING TO TALK ABOUT WATER IN THIS AREA FOR THE REGION TO SOME DEGREE. WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVE WATER SOURCES. WE'VE MET WITH EPCOR REGARDING THAT. UH, ROBERT HAS COMMITTED TO ME THAT HE WILL WORK ON INCREASING THE CIP FROM TWO YEARS TO FIVE YEARS. UH, TODD SON, YOU DUDE. BUT I, I I HOPE THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE IT IS CRITICAL THAT FINANCIAL PLANNING HAPPENED IN THIS CITY SO THAT YOU, THE COUNCIL KNOWS AND THE STAFF KNOWS HOW WE'RE, WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND HOW WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT BEFORE THAT YEAR OR BEFORE. IT'S JUST TWO YEARS OUT. ONE OF THE MORE EXCITING AREAS. ALL OF THEM ARE EXCITING, BUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS, IS ALWAYS, UH, AN EXCITING AREA. AND, AND I'VE BEEN SAYING TO EVERYONE THAT'S PROBABLY THE TIMER. IT SAYS, IT'S TIME FOR ME TO STOP TALKING, BUT I JUST GOT A COUPLE MORE SECONDS. THIS IS WHERE WE INCREASE OUR WEALTH. THIS IMPACTS HOW MUCH YOU END UP HAVING TO PAY IN TAXES AND THAT WHOLE BIT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND TRYING TO INCREASE THAT. ONE OF THE BIG WINS THAT WE HAD, AND I THANK YOU RANDALL AND THE TEAM, UM, THAT HA HAS TO DO WITH DEVELOPMENT. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE TITAN, UH, PROJECT COMING TO COMPLETION IN TERMS OF AT LEAST THEIR APPLICATIONS FOR THE THREE 80 AGREEMENT, ZONING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS. WE STILL HAVE AN OFFSET AGREEMENT THAT THE COUNCIL'S GONNA CONSIDER, BUT THAT PROJECT IS, IS COMING ALONG REALLY WELL. OBVIOUSLY YOU JUST HEARD FROM NORTHLINE, SO I DIDN'T PUT ANYTHING THERE. UH, CRYSTAL VILLAGE, UH, IS, IS MOVING RIGHT ALONG. I'M SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CULVERS. UM, MY WIFE AND I ACTUALLY ARE, BUT WON'T GO INTO THAT. AND OF COURSE, THE HERO WAY WEST UH, ARE, ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG. AND IN DEVELOPMENT, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING TO PROMOTE CUSTOMER SERVICE AND COMMUNICATION RELATIVE TO THAT, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE COUNSEL WITH THE DETAILS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE. UH, WE ALSO WANT TO BE AN ADVOCATE OF IMPROVING COMMUNICATIONS, AND WE WANT OUR STAFF TO BE ENCOURAGED EVEN MORE TO REACH OUT, NOT JUST TO RETURN A CALL, BUT TO MAKE CONTACT, TO TRY TO HELP CUSTOMERS OUT WHEN WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. AND I WILL SAY THAT, UH, MR. PARTON AND I HAD SOME EXTENSIVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT, AND, UH, HE'S, HE'S GOT A REAL NICE VISION FOR YOU. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO LEANDER PROGRESS IN THAT AREA. THAT'S IT. I HOPE YOU MISSED ME. I HOPE I MADE A DIFFERENCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'VE BEEN INCREDIBLY BUSY AND [01:00:01] AN INCREDIBLE BLESSING TO, TO ALL OF US, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH. UM, BEFORE WE GIVE YOU YOUR LOVELY PARTING GIFT, UM, I UNDERSTAND YOUR FAMILY HAS SOME GIFTS FOR YOU THAT THEY WANTED TO BRING UP. THIS IS MY WIFE, ANGELA. SHE HAS BEEN WITH ME GOING ON 36 YEARS, 37 YEARS. , SHE MISSED IT ONE TIME, BUT WE WANTED MISS AN AUDIENCE. I DO WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION. I SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT, EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO HER FOR BEING WITH ME AND SUPPORTING ME ON ALL OF THIS, UH, TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SMELLED FOOD IN MY OFFICE FOR LUNCHTIME, BECAUSE I BRING BRINGING MY LUNCH. THESE ARE THE T THANK YOU. NO, THANK YOU. ENTER THE MICROPHONE PLEASE, SIR. IT SAYS RETIREMENT RETIRED. EXCUSE ME. UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT. SEE SPOUSE FOR DETAILS. , NICELY DONE. THANK YOU. TODD. I MAY NEED TO COME WORK FOR YOU. . OH MY GOODNESS. IS ANYONE IN PARTICULAR OR IS IT SAYS DAD. OH, WOW. THE HANDSOME GUY WITH THE WALLET. . ALSO TELL HER OF BAD JOKES. . THEY MAY HAVE GOTTEN ME MIXED UP WITH TODD, BUT , THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS TIME. AND I, OH MY GOODNESS. UM, I'M A MARVEL COMIC FAN, BLACK PANTHER, AND IT'S LIKE 3D OR SOMETHING. IT'S REALLY COOL. YEAH. OH, OH, COOL. IT'S HULK , BUT IT'S, IT, IT, OH, IT. OH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME SLIDES THAT I BELIEVE STAFF HAS PREPARED, LIKE A GREATEST HITS REEL. I DON'T KNOW WHO'S, UH, WHO'S RUNNING THAT? THERE WE GO. OH, THERE'S WHERE YOU WERE SWORN IN. WOW. THAT'S THE DEEP WATER INTAKE. YOUR BIRTHDAY. CHRISTMAS. CHRISTMAS. THE STAFF APPRECIATION. YEAH. STAFF APPRECIATION. YEAH, SAME SWEATER. . DAN WENT ALL DAN COMES TO WORK LIKE THIS A LOT. OH, YEAH. MLK. WAS IT M YEAH. OH, RETIRE. THAT WAS YOUR GOING AWAY PARTY. RETIRE. YEAH. NO, THAT'S A DIFFERENT, OH, NO, THAT WAS SHANNON'S. YOU'RE RIGHT, BARBARA. OH, THAT WAS SHANNON'S. I'M SORRY. SO WHY DOES IT SAY THAT? YEAH, I KNOW. THAT'S RIGHT. TURN TERRACE. THANK YOU. OKAY, THERE'S YOURS. YEAH. SO WE HAVE A TRADITION WHEN SOMEBODY IS LEAVING THE DAIS, WE ALWAYS WANT YOU TO REMEMBER US. AND SO WE HAVE A PLAQUE FOR YOU, PRESENTED TO ISAAC D TURNER, AN APPRECIATION OF OUTSTANDING SERVICE, VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS, AND AN UNFAILING COMMITMENT TO THE CITY OF LEANDRO, TEXAS, WHILE SERVING AS INTERIM CITY MANAGER FROM OCTOBER 23 TO APRIL OF 2024. WE ARE GONNA MISS YOU SO MUCH. . [01:05:05] I WAS LOOKING AT TY AND HE WAS GETTING A PICTURE. I GOT YOU. THANK YOU. AND THEN USUALLY WHAT WE DO WHEN SOMEBODY IS OUTGOING, WE ALSO GO DOWN THE LINE SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN SAY THEIR GOODBYE SO THAT YOU CAN MALFUNCTION AGAIN. . SO WE ARE GOING TO START WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PLACE ONE, CATHERINE PEN, TILLIAN PARKER. I WANNA RECOGNIZE THE MAYOR FOR A MOMENT, JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO SAY MY NAME AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. . NOT EVERYBODY CAN DO THAT, BUT, UM, ISAAC, I HAD TO WRITE EVERYTHING DOWN IN THE CARD SO YOU HAVE IT IN THE CARD. I DIDN'T WANNA FORGET BECAUSE I HAVE A TENDENCY TO LEAK TOO. AND, UM, BUT YOU DID ACCOMPLISH YOUR MISSION. WE ARE GONNA MISS YOU. AND, UM, I I HOPE THAT YOU'LL MISS US TOO. YOU HAVE BEEN AN ABSOLUTE DELIGHT TO WORK WITH. UH, YOU ARE A GOOD MAN, AND WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE YOU DURING THIS TIME. YOU STEADIED THE SHIP AND WE, WE NEEDED YOU AND YOU WERE HERE. AND I'M SURE YOU COULD HAVE DONE LOTS OF OTHER THINGS. YOU COULD HAVE STAYED HOME AND, UH, DONE, DONE YOUR, YOUR LIST OF THINGS TO DO THAT I'M SURE ANGELA HAD FOR YOU, BUT YOU SACRIFICED SOME TIME. AND, UH, I KNOW IT WAS A, A DRIVE AND I KNOW MANY, MANY EVENINGS YOU WERE HERE AND, AND IT LOOKED LIKE YOU HAD JUST HAD ENOUGH, BUT YOU WERE STILL HERE WITH A SMILE ON YOUR FACE AND A POSITIVE ATTITUDE ANSWERING ALL THE EMAILS AND IN, IN A, A MANNER THAT IS JUST, IT'S EXEMPLARY AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. I I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN SAY, BUT YOU WERE, WE NEEDED YOU AND YOU WERE HERE, AND YOU'RE APPRECIATED AND YOU WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU PART TIME, MR. TURNER. OH, WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU. YOU HAVE DONE WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA DO. IT HASN'T BEEN EASY. UM, YOU INHERITED A LOT OF ISSUES AND WE JUST CAME OUT OF SIX WEEKS OF WATER. AND I, I KNOW YOU AND YOUR WHOLE TEAM HERE, WERE ANSWERING NOT JUST THAT, NOT JUST WATER EMAILS, BUT EMAILS ABOUT RAIDER WAY AND, UM, POLICE ISSUES, RIGHT? SO YOU ARE CONSTANTLY RESPONDING TO OUR CITIZENS. AND I, I HOPE YOU GUYS CAN LIKE MOVE HERE. LEANER. ISS A GREAT CITY, SO, YOU KNOW, HE MAY COME UP AND ASK YOU FOR A JOB SO . BUT, UH, WE'RE TRULY GONNA MISS YOU. AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS AND WE WILL MISS YOU WHEN YOU'RE GONE. THANK YOU. WE CAN TRY TO ANNEX YOUR HOUSE. . I I KNOW THE MAYOR OVER THERE, , PLACE THREE. MR. TURNER, I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR CITY. UM, I'LL SAY THIS, I FELT LIKE WE WERE KIND OF A SINKING SHIP BEFORE YOU CAME ON BOARD. AND NOT ONLY DID YOU EMPTY OUR SHIP, UM, FROM THE WATER, AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU STUDIED OUR SHIP. I I FEEL LIKE YOU PUT US ON THE RIGHT COURSE AND I FEEL LIKE, UH, TODD, YOU GOT SOME BIG SHOES TO FILL, BUT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT COURSE AND JUST KEEP IT GOING AND, UH, AND DO THE THINGS YOU'RE GONNA DO. BUT ONE OF MY FAVORITE LINES IS FROM A MOVIE CALLED REMEMBER THE TITANS ATTITUDE REFLECTS LEADERSHIP. AND YOUR POSITIVE ATTITUDE IS JUST TO ME TRANSFORMED EVERYBODY THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY. AND EVERYBODY UP HERE ON THIS DIOCESE JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE NESS AND THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AND JUST THAT POSITIVITY THAT YOU BROUGHT TO THIS CITY. AND, UH, WE WILL MISS YOU. YOU DID ACCOMPLISH THAT, AND YOU DID, YOU DID A FANTASTIC JOB. SO JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. APPRECIATE IT. PLAY SIX. I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA END UP GOING LAST, AND I'M LIKE, MAN, WHEN YOU'RE NUMBER SIX, WHAT'S THERE TO ADD? BUT ISAAC, IT HAS BEEN FANTASTIC OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS. I REALLY, TO RE REITERATE WHAT EVERYBODY HAS SAID, YOU HAVE LEVELED THIS UP. YOU STOPPED THE SPINNING, AND EVEN IN JUST THE SIX MONTHS YOU'VE BEEN HERE, TODD REALLY DOES HAVE SOME BIG SHOES TO FILL. SO THANK YOU AND I AM GONNA MISS YOU. NICE FIVE. YEAH, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, I THINK FOR WHAT YOU, FOR WHAT YOU SET OUT TO DO. AND, UH, APPRECIATE YOU, UM, JUMPING ALL, UH, I WROTE ALL THE SAPPY THINGS IN THE CARD AS WELL TOO. SO I'M, I'M GONNA END WITH A, WITH A HAPPY ONE AND THANK YOUR FAMILY. BUT YOU, YOU, YOU SET OUT TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO AND YOU DID IT PROFESSIONALLY AND YOU WENT ALL IN. AND SO IN A, IN AN INTERIM ROLE, I KNOW IT'S PRETTY, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY, UM, I'M ONLY GONNA BE HERE FOR A WHILE, SO HOW MUCH DO I REALLY HAVE TO GET INVOLVED IN? BUT I DID NOTICE THAT EV EVERYTHING WAS, YOU TOOK OWNERSHIP OVER. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I WANNA THANK YOUR FAMILY, UM, FOR, FOR ALLOWING YOU TO DO IT, BECAUSE, UM, I KNOW AT A, AT A CERTAIN TIME, AND YOU'VE DONE THIS IN SEVERAL PLACES AND YOU'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN SEVERAL PLACES AND YOU'VE EVEN BEEN INTERIM SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND FOR THEM TO [01:10:01] ALLOW YOU TO DO THOSE THINGS, AND WITH AS MUCH AS WE GOT GOING ON, I JUST WANNA THANK YOUR FAMILY VERY MUCH AND, AND YEAH. AND HOW APPROPRIATE IS IT? THIS, THAT, UM, AND THANK YOU TODD, FOR ALSO MAKING IT HAPPEN JUST LIKE THIS ON PURPOSE, BUT THEY'RE LITERALLY GONNA GO LIKE SAIL OFF INTO THE SUNSET. THEY'RE GOING ON A CRUISE TOGETHER THIS NEXT WEEK. AND SO HE GETS TO LEAVE LIKE NO STRINGS ATTACHED, NO RESPONSIBILITIES, AND JUST GO BE FREE FOR A WHILE AND GO SPEND TIME TOGETHER. AND SO I'M JUST REALLY HAPPY FOR, FOR YOU GUYS, AND I'M, I'M PROUD OF YOU FOR THE WAY YOU'VE SERVED US AND I'M APPRECIATIVE FOR YOU AS WELL. SO, UM, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, ISAAC. YEP. PLACE FOUR. WELL, I WOULD SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM. THANK YOU FOR BEING A MAN OF YOUR WORD AND DOING THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID YOU WOULD DO FROM DAY ONE. UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO SECOND GUESS. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WONDER WHAT PERSPECTIVE YOU WERE COMING FROM. WE ALWAYS KNEW EXACTLY WHERE YOU WERE COMING FROM. WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WHATEVER YOU SAID YOU THOUGHT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR, OF OUR STAFF, OF OUR CITY, OF OUR, OF OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU CAME WITH THAT PERSPECTIVE AND LED FROM THAT POINT. IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE. AND SO I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST AND WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO NEXT, THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO YOUR WIFE AND, AND TO YOUR FAMILY. 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S A SACRIFICE. MY FAMILY MAKES ONE FOR ME TO BE HERE. SO I KNOW YOURS WAS EVEN GREATER WITH ALL THE TIME AND RESPONSIBILITY YOU HAD. AND YOU COULD HAVE CAME IN AND SAID, I'M JUST GONNA, I'M GONNA RIDE THE WAVE UNTIL IT'S TIME, TILL THEY GET SOMEBODY ELSE. BUT YOU DIDN'T DO THAT. YOU TOOK OWNERSHIP OF THE ROLE AND WE APPRECIATE IT AND WE'RE BETTER FOR IT. SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING EXACTLY WHO YOU ARE. THANKS. UM, I ALSO CHOSE TO PUT MY THOUGHTS IN THE CARD BECAUSE I WILL MALFUNCTION AS WELL, . UM, BUT THE THANK YOU IS, IS NOT ENOUGH FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE. UM, YOU'VE BEEN INCREDIBLE. AND, UM, YOU HAVE THIS WAY ABOUT YOU THAT IS VERY CALMING AND ASSURING. AND I KNEW WHEN YOU CAME IN FOR YOUR INTERVIEW, I THINK A LOT OF US FELT IT LIKE, THIS IS WHERE WE NEEDED YOU. LIKE YOU WERE ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT PICK. UM, AND UH, I ALSO WISH YOU WOULD MOVE HERE, PLEASE , BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT AND CALMING AND INCREDIBLE. UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY PUT, I THINK ALL OF US AT EASE AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRUST, A LOT OF THAT COMES FROM THE TOP AND IT'S COME RIGHT FROM YOU. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH. DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING OR ARE WE DONE? ? I APPRECIATE IT. AND UH, JACKIE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND THANK YOU FOR KEEPING ME IN LINE. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND DORA, I'M GONNA MISS SOME OF OUR CONVERSATIONS. TAKE CARE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, SO NOW WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR IN OUR NEW CITY MANAGER, UH, TODD PARTON. HOWEVER, THIS IS MR. PARTON'S THIRD DAY . SO, UM, HE WILL BE REMAINING, UM, DOWN WITH STAFF TODAY. AND MR. TURNER WILL REMAIN WITH US UP HERE FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING. UM, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND SQUARE YOU IN. YOU READY MR. TURNER? YOU COME DOWN THE . THANK YOU. IF THAT'S ALRIGHT. NO, THAT'S PERFECT. OKAY. YEAH, WE'VE GOT THIS MIC. WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. AND THEN JUST COME OVER THIS WAY A LITTLE BIT TOWARDS THE MICROPHONE. RAISE YOUR HAND THERE AND THE EYE ONE UP. ALRIGHT, I, TODD PARTON. I TODD PARTON, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I'LL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES THAT I'LL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE CITY OF LEANDER, CITY MANAGER OF THE OFFICE OF THE CITY OF LEANDER, CITY MANAGER OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES END OF THIS STATE. SO HELP ME, GOD, END OF THIS STATE. SO HELP ME, GOD. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M VERY HONORED TO BE ABLE TO JOIN A DYNAMIC TEAM HERE IN LEANDER, UM, OVER THE LAST THREE [01:15:01] DAYS, , I GUESS, UM, IT'S BEEN AMAZING TO GET A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH MANY OF YOU TO GET TO ENGAGE WITH THE CHAMBER, TO GET A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH SO MANY OF OUR STAFF. UM, ISAAC, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING MY LANDING HERE AS SOFT AS IT COULD POSSIBLY BE. IT'S BEEN INCREDIBLE. I, I WENT OUT AND I BOUGHT ABOUT FOUR EXTRA PAIR OF SOCKS TO FIT INTO THOSE SHOES THAT YOU'VE LEFT. SO, SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT. AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOUR FAMILY. APPARENTLY DAD JOKES. SO HE, HE TOLD US THAT HE DOES NOT KNOW OR TELL DAD JOKES, SO JUST IN, IN ALL TRANSPARENCY AND HONESTY THERE, , . BUT, BUT AGAIN, IT, IT'S MY GREAT PLEASURE TO BE HERE. UM, I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THE LEGACY THAT ISAAC AND THE TEAM HAS CREATED, THE PLATFORM THAT WE HAVE. THERE'S SO MANY GREAT THINGS AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE THERE AND WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN'T DO. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M READY TO GET RUNNING EVEN MORE. AND IF WE COULD TURN DOWN THE HUMIDITY, I'D GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. SO, AND, AND ISAAC, IS THIS, WHEN I TELL THEM THAT YOU'VE INVITED ME TO GO ON THE CRUISE WITH YOU? . . OKAY. WE'LL MENTION THAT LATER. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, STAFF. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND PATIENCE AND WELCOMING ON BOARD AS WELL. SO WE'LL HAVE A GOOD TIME. THANK YOU. WELCOME ABOARD. IT'S AN EXCITING TIME. SO WITH THAT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A BRIEF RECEPTION IN THE FOER. SO LET'S TAKE ABOUT 10 MINUTES. THE TIME IS 7 31 RIGHT NOW. I'LL BE BACK AT 7 41 ISH. ALRIGHT, WE ARE BACK IN SESSION AT 7:50 PM WE'RE [7. Public comments on items not listed in the agenda. Public comments on items listed in the agenda will be heard at the time each item is discussed. [All comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual.]] GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, NON AGENDA ITEM, PUBLIC COMMENTS. FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, I WILL CALL ON SPEAKERS PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE AGENDA ITEM AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED COMMENTS, COMMENTS VIA THE WEBSITE WILL ONLY HAVE POSITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD. ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE COUNSEL AND WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS, IT IS A TIME FOR YOU TO TALK TO COUNSEL, BUT IT IS NOT A TIME THAT WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE DISCUSSION BACK BECAUSE THAT IS CONSIDERED DELIBERATION. WITH THAT, OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS DEB HODGES. GOOD EVENING, MS. HODGES. PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. MY NAME IS DEB HODGES. I LIVE AT TWO 60 SOUTHBROOK ROAD IN LEANDER, TEXAS. UM, I AM HERE AS AN EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF OPERATION 360. AND ON TUESDAY, MAYOR CHRISTINE PRESENTED US WITH A CITY PROCLAMATION DECLARING APRIL 16TH, 2024, OPERATION 360 DAY. WE WANT TO EXPRESS OUR SINCERE AND HEARTFELT THANKS THAT OUR MESSAGE OF COMMUNITY COLLABORATION ADDRESSING THE FENTANYL CRISIS IS BEING HEARD. WE ARE SO HAPPY TO SEE OUR FULL CIRCLE APPROACH THROUGH EDUCATION, AWARENESS, MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT, HARM, REDUCTION, AND SUPPORT FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT BEGINNING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HELPING US IN THIS FIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. CARLOS ST. JAMES. I LIVE ON ARTESIAN SPRINGS CROSSING JUST A, A BLOCK OR TWO FROM, UM, LAKEWOOD PARK. UH, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE THINGS, UH, ONE TO MR. TURNER TO, UH, ALSO EXPRESS GRATITUDE ON BEHALF OF ME AND EVERYONE, FOR ALL YOU DID, BEING DESIGNATED INTERIM ANYTHING IS A TOUGH GIG AND, UH, AND YOU PULLED IT OFF IN THE SIX MONTHS YOU WERE HERE IN, IN STYLE. UH, SO, SO KUDOS TO YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THEN PART TWO IS ALSO WELCOME TO MR. UM, PARTON, UM, AS NEW CITY MANAGER, I'M ON THE BOARD OF AN ORGANIZATION CALLED THE LEANDER FOUNDATION, ANOTHER FOUR BOARD MEMBERS HERE TO KAT HOWELL. AND WE WANNA WELCOME YOU AS WELL. WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT YOU'RE HERE AS WELL. OUR ORGANIZATION RECENTLY FINISHED, UH, A STUDY, IT'S CALLED A COMPARISON OF CENTRAL TEXAS CITY'S 2024. THAT IS DIFFERENT IN THAT IT COMPARES LEANDER TO EIGHT OF ITS NEIGHBORING TOWNS, UM, AND COMPARES DATA, HARD DATA SIDE BY SIDE. UM, AND IT, I THINK IT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO YOU. I HAVE A PRINTED COPY THAT I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU WHENEVER WE, WE GET TO MEET. IT ACTUALLY SHOWS DIFFERENT WATER RATES FOR ALL THE CITIES SURROUNDING, UH, AUSTIN. IT SHOWS PROPERTY TAXES AND THE TRENDS THEY'VE HAD OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS OR SO. IT TALKS ABOUT PARKLAND PER RESIDENT AND HOW WE COMPARE IN THAT. AND THE PART THAT I ENJOYED THE MOST, UH, AS WE WERE [01:20:01] ALL PUTTING THIS TOGETHER IS THAT IT SHOWS THE DIFFERENT HOW EVERY ONE OF THESE EIGHT, NINE CITIES ACTUALLY IN, IN CENTRAL TEXAS, HOW THEY GET THEIR REVENUES BROKEN DOWN. WE ALL GET REVENUES FOR MORE OR LESS THE SAME CATEGORIES, BUT THEY COME IN VERY DIFFERENT PROPORTIONS. EVERY CITY ACCORDING TO ITS PERSONALITY AND ITS SUCCESSES, AND NONE ACTUALLY HAS DIFFERENT PROPORTIONS. AND CONVERSELY, UH, THE SAME ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, EVERYONE MORE OR LESS HAS THE SAME KIND OF EXPENSES, BUT IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO SEE IN THESE GRASS HOW LEANDER COMPARES TO A BUNCH OF OTHER CITIES AND WHERE THE AVERAGE IS FOR ALL THESE CITIES. SO, UM, I THINK IT'S INTERESTING. CERTAINLY IF YOU'RE GETTING TO KNOW CENTRAL TEXAS AND, AND LEANDER, THIS MAY PROVE USEFUL TO YOU. AND IF NOTHING ELSE, IT'LL HELP YOU PUT YOU TO SLEEP WHEN, UH, WHEN YOU HAVE TROUBLE WITH THAT. SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH. . ITEM NUMBER [8. Staff ReportsWater UpdateCapital Improvement Project Update - Senior Activity Center] EIGHT, STAFF REPORTS. UH, WE HAVE A WATER UPDATE WITH EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE AT GRIMMS BOW OH NO, WITH MS. ELLISON. WE'RE GONNA TAG TEAM IT. ALRIGHT, WELCOME. I'M GONNA START. UH, THIS WATER UPDATE IS, IS MOSTLY ALMOST ALL ABOUT THE DROUGHT AND ONGOING CONDITIONS OF THE, THE LAKES. UM, SO I ALWAYS START WITH THIS ONE. IT'S THE COMBINED STORAGE OF LAKE BUCHANAN AND TRAVIS, WHICH EL C RAY, UM, USES AS THEIR TWO RESERVOIRS FOR WATER SUPPLY FOR THIS AREA. SO THEY OPERATE, UM, OPERATE THEM TOGETHER. UH, AND SO WE LOOK BACK AT A YEAR THEY WERE ABOUT 50% FULL OR ABOUT 1 MILLION ACRE FEET. UM, CURRENTLY AS OF APRIL 1ST, THEY'RE AT 42% FULL ABOUT 840, UM, THOUSAND ACRE FEET. SO THE LAST TIME THEY WERE FULL, I LOOKED THIS UP, WAS JULY OF 2019. SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE. UM, LOOKING AT THE DROUGHT FOR, UH, THE STATE OF TEXAS, UM, LOOKING BACK A YEAR AGO, APRIL OF, UH, 2023 OBVIOUSLY LOOKS A LOT WORSE THAN IT IS NOW. UH, AND YOU CAN SEE CURRENTLY OUT TO THE EAST, UH, ALMOST NO DROUGHT, UM, OUT, OUT THAT WAY. SO WE'RE HOPING, YOU KNOW, THAT LINE KEEPS PUSHING, PUSHING TO THE WEST THERE. UM, A YEAR AGO IT WAS ABOUT 78% WAS IN THAT ABNORMALLY DRY OR WORSE. UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT ABOUT 50% OF THE STATE. UH, AGAIN, I I LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE THIS, UM, REALLY HAS TO DO WITH SOIL MOISTURE. UM, SO THIS IS OUR BASIN AND THE BASIN THAT FEEDS LAKES, TRAVIS AND BUCHANAN AND, AND SUPPLIES OUR WATER. SO YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THAT WESTERN PORTION OF THE BASIN IS, IS STILL IN THAT DRY TO SEVERE DRY, UM, CONDITIONS. DOWNSTREAM OF AUSTIN IS COMPLETELY OUT OF, OF THE DROUGHT. SO AGAIN, IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL WHERE THE RAIN FALLS. UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE GET THE RAIN IN THE RIGHT SPOT. I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST TELLING, UM, AS I MENTIONED THAT THE DROUGHT MONITOR, YOU KNOW, HAS IMPROVED. BUT, UM, THIS GRAPH OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS SHOWS THE INFLOWS INTO THE TWO LAKES. SO THE LIGHTER BLUE ON THE LEFT IS THE AVERAGE RAINFALL, I'M SORRY, INFLOW, NOT RAINFALL INFLOW INTO THE LAKES, UM, THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PERIOD THAT THEY'VE BEEN REPORTING IT. UM, BUT I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THIS DARK BLUE. UM, SO THESE ARE THE INFLOWS DURING THE DROUGHT OF RECORD. SO YOU CAN SEE IN ALMOST ALL INSTANCES. AND THEN, SORRY, PURPLE IS, UH, THE INFLOWS FOR 21, 22, 23, AND 24. SO ALMOST EVERY SINGLE MONTH IS, IS WELL BELOW. UM, EVEN THE DROUGHT OF RECORD, THE INFLOWS, UH, ASTERIA HAS BEEN TRACKING, UM, THIS DROUGHT AS COMPARED TO THE DROUGHT OF RECORD. UM, SO AS OF MARCH 1ST IS THE MOST RECENT. SO WE'RE ABOUT 22,000 ACRE FEET HIGHER THAN THE DROUGHT OF RECORD. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, I MEAN, THAT DROUGHT STILL CONTINUED UNTIL WE REALLY GOT THE BIG FLOODS THAT CAME. SO WE COULD BE, COULD BE IN FOR A, A GOOD WHILE STILL. I SHOWED THIS GRAPH LAST TIME. SO, UM, WHY OBVIOUSLY IT'S IMPORTANT TO US IS AS THE LAKE CONTINUES TO DROP, UM, OUR BARGES ARE, ARE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THAT DROUGHT. SO EL CRE PUTS THIS OUT EACH MONTH. UM, THIS BOTTOM LINE IS KIND OF WORST CASE SCENARIO, NO RAIN. AND THEN, UM, THIS IS THE 99TH PERCENTILE, UM, 99% CHANCE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WON'T HAPPEN . SO, UM, WE'VE KIND OF BEEN CONTINUING ON THIS TREAD. WE'RE RIGHT AT SIX 30 RIGHT NOW. SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE, WE STAY STEADY, WE COULD, WE COULD BE KIND OF IN THIS AREA, BUT WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THIS WORST CASE SCENARIO. SO AT LEVEL 6 23, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE AT SIX 30 RIGHT NOW. SO IN ABOUT SEVEN FEET, UH, THE B-C-R-U-A BARGE WOULD BE OFFLINE. SO WE WOULD BE LIMITED AGAIN TO SANDY CREEK. UM, WHICH IS WHY CURRENTLY IN PRODUCTION IS OUR, OUR DROUGHT DROUGHT BARGE. SO WE WOULD, UM, AND ARE PLANNING TO HAVE THAT ONLINE BY LEVEL SIX 20. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT FALLS RIGHT AROUND, UM, JULY OF THIS YEAR. [01:25:01] SO CURRENT PROJECTIONS AND, AND TIMELINE FOR THAT, HAVE IT ONLINE BY THE END OF JUNE AND THEN BY SAY MIDDLE OF JULY, UH, AT LEVEL SIX 18, IF WE GET NO RAIN, UH, THE SANDY CREEK BARGE WOULD BE OFFLINE. UM, AND THIS IS KIND OF A, A TIMELINE, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE JUST CAME OUT OF. IF WE HAVE NO RAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A PHASE FOUR ESCALATION BY EARLY JUNE. UM, AS I MENTIONED ON THE, ON THE GRAPH BEFORE THAT WOULD BE B-C-R-U-A COMING OFFLINE, UM, ABOUT MID-JUNE, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT GIVEN NO RAIN. UM, AND THEN THE, THE BARGE, LIKE I SAID, WOULD BE ACTIVATED IN IN EARLY JULY. AND, AND THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, NO TELLING WHEN IT WOULD, WHEN IT WOULD END. WE, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GONNA RAIN. WE'RE COMING INTO THE SUMMER MONTHS, UM, WHERE EVAPORATION AND USAGE IS ITS HIGHEST. SO, UM, AND DAN'S GONNA TALK ABOUT LONG TERM, WHICH WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH, BUT IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO GO OVER. UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, DAN VILLE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE. SO, UH, BEFORE WE SKIP THIS REAL QUICK, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE SEE THAT I, I, I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THEM TO PANIC, WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THAT, BUT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NO RAIN. YOU KNOW, SATURDAY PREDICTING FOUR INCHES. THE LAKE LEVEL COULD CERTAINLY RAISE A, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT A FOOT THAT WOULD DELAY IT FURTHER DOWN THE LINE. DO WE NEED A LOT OF RAIN? YEAH, WE, WE DEFINITELY NEED A LOT OF RAIN. WE DO HAVE INFLOW COMING IN. SO, SO WHAT WE, WE ALWAYS PUT UP THERE IS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, DURING THAT TIME WE'RE ALSO PLANNING FOR THAT AND WANNA MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF IT. UM, BUT, UH, WE DO HAVE A POTENTIALLY SOME WET WEATHER COMING IN, UH, UH, THE, UH, APRIL MAY TIMEFRAME, HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE HOT SUMMER. SO AS THEY SAY, UH, PREPARE FOR THE WORST, YOU KNOW, HOPE FOR THE BEST. SO, SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS PART OF OUR PREPARATION. WHAT I MEAN BY PREPARATION IS, RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING SHORT TERM FOR THE EMERGENCY BARGE. UM, WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO DOING CONSERVATION ACROSS NOT ONLY OUR CITY, BUT OTHER CITIES. LCR IS TAKING IMMEDIATE STEPS TO CAUSE UH, TRIGGER POINTS TO BE DONE SOONER. SO THOSE ARE SOME IMMEDIATE STEPS THAT ARE BEING TAKEN ACROSS THIS REGIONAL AREA. SOME, UM, INTERIM STEPS ARE, WE'RE WORKING ON CITY PROJECTS, UM, FOR BOTH CAPACITY OF MOVEMENT OF WATER AND THE TREATMENT OF WATER. UM, WHEN THE LAKE LEVELS HOPEFULLY, UM, START, START GOING BACK UP. CITY MANAGER TALKED ABOUT OTHER WATER SOURCES AND WE HAVE TALKED WITH THE OTHER CITIES ABOUT POTENTIAL OTHER WATER SOURCES THAT HAS TO BE THOUGHT OF. I'VE STOOD IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL AND SAID, THE B CRA IS OUR PLAN. AND IT IS, UM, WE HAVE, UM, FU WATER FOR THE FUTURE, UM, 62 MILLION GALLONS, AND THEN POTENTIALLY A FEW MORE IF WE UPGRADE THE BC OR THE, UH, SANDY CREEK WATER PLANT. BUT THE DEEP WATER INTAKE IS ONE OF OUR LONGER TERM WHAT'LL BE DONE IN 2027. AND WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT TO SHOW PEOPLE IS THAT AT WHEN THE LAKE'S FULL, WE'RE AT 6 81, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE FOUR DIFFERENT, AND IF YOU GO OUT TO THE LAKE RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT SIX 30, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE THIRD SCREEN. THE SECOND SCREEN, YOU WOULD SEE THIS PIPE STICKING OUTTA THE WATER. RIGHT NOW WE'VE SEEN PICTURES OF THAT, BUT I'M REALLY TELLING THE PUBLIC THAT IF THEY WAS TO DRIVE DOWN THE LAKE AND THEY WONDER WHAT THAT STOVE PIPE IS STICKING OUTTA THE WATER, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. SO, SO WHEN WE'RE FULL, WE'RE AT, UH, 6 81. NOW WHEN, WHEN WE PUT THE DEEP WATER INTAKE, AND JUST SO EVERYBODY REMEMBERS, UH, THESE PIPES CONNECT DOWN UNDERNEATH THE LAKE TO THE TUNNEL THAT WE SAW THE PICTURE OF THE CITY MANAGER STANDING IN. AND AND THAT'S THE, THE FUNCTION OF IT. RIGHT NOW, YOU SAW THAT AT SIX, RIGHT? SLIGHTLY BELOW THIS, THIS LEVEL RIGHT HERE AT 6 23, THE BCR GOES OUT AND THEN OURS GOES OUT SLIGHTLY BELOW THAT. WHAT I WANNA SHOW YOU IS THAT FROM HERE TO HERE, WHICH IS THE BOTTOM, WE HAVE A HUNDRED FEET OF LAKE. AND WHEN THE BARGES ARE GONE, AND EVEN EMERGENCY BARGE CAN GO DOWN TO ABOUT 600, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STILL LOOKING AT, UM, 30 FEET OF LAKE, WHICH IS SUBSTANTIAL. SO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE THE BARGES ARE CURRENTLY, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, IN BETWEEN. IF YOU WANNA CALL SCREEN THREE AND SCREEN TWO RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE HERE, TO WHERE WE WILL BE RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS THE BOTTOM OF THE LAKE RIGHT HERE. UM, AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION, IF WE EVER GET DOWN TO SCREEN FOUR AND, UM, WE'RE TAKING WATER FROM THERE, THEN WE PROBABLY [01:30:01] HAVE LOTS OF OTHER ISSUES GOING ON ASSOCIATED WITH WATER. BUT THIS IS THE RESILIENCY THAT THAT'S BEING BUILT IN, AND THIS IS WHAT THE DEEP WATER INTAKE IS GONNA PROVIDE, UM, THE CITIES OF ROUND ROCK, CEDAR PARK, AND LEANDER. UM, AND FOR THIS AREA. SO I, I WANTED TO SHOW THAT NOT ONLY TO THE COUNCIL AS A REMINDER, I KNOW YOU'VE KIND OF SEEN IT, BUT I WANTED TO BRING IT UP, SHOWING YOU THE EXACT LEVELS AND THEN WHERE THE BARGES SIT IN THERE SO YOU HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THE SHORT TERM AND WHAT'S THE LONG TERM FIX FOR THE LAKE LEVELS. SO WITH THAT, UM, I GUESS ANY QUESTIONS FOR GENE OR I COUNSEL? NO, JUST THAT, THAT, THAT VISUAL RIGHT THERE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ANYBODY CAN SEE FOR THE LONG-TERM PLANS. MM-HMM FOR THIS CITY. JUST TO PUT A PICTURE WITH IT. SO THANK YOU. IT DOES, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S PRETTY, UH, PRETTY TELLING FOR SURE. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET'S HOPE WE HAVE ANOTHER RAINY SPRING, LIKE LAST YEAR. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT UPDATE ON THE SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTER WITH EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE GRIMS BOAT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL DAN GREENSVILLE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE. AND, UM, UH, WE ARE, WE ARE GONNA TALK TO, UM, ABOUT THE SENIOR CENTER. IT'S, UM, HAD A BIT OF A WINDY ROAD IF YOU, UH, WANNA PUT IT LOOSELY. UM, IT'S KIND OF BEEN, UM, TALKED ABOUT AND THEN TALKED ABOUT IN DIFFERENT MANNERS. UM, IT STARTED BACK IN, UM, UH, 20 20 17, SO WE'RE TALKING ALREADY SEVEN, SEVEN YEARS AGO. AND, UM, SO WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH THE SLIDES AND, UM, AND TALK ABOUT IT. I'LL STOP ON ONE SLIDE LIKE I TRY TO DO AND GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A, OF A BASE, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT, OR A HISTORY ON, AND KIND OF WHERE IT IS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF HAS WORKED ON, UM, ALONG THE WAYS, WHICH I THINK IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS. SO, AS A REMINDER, UM, THIS IS THE, THE LAYOUT OF, UH, THE SENIOR CENTER. UM, THE DESIGN IS, UM, IS, UH, COMPLETE. UM, I WAS GONNA BRING THAT AS A PROP. THAT'S HUGE. IT'S ABOUT 150 PAGES WORTH OF, UH, PLANS. UM, SO, UM, A LOT OF DETAIL IN THAT, UH, IN THAT PLAN SET. THIS IS THE, UH, UH, BASIC ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE ON THE SITE. UM, IT'S REALLY, REALLY NICE LOOKING BUILDING. UM, AND SO, UH, THIS IS THE SLIDE I I WANTED TO, TO STOP ON, UM, FOR A MINUTE. UM, THERE'S BEEN, BEEN SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS PROVIDED TO COUNCIL ALONG THE WAY. AND, UM, AND, UM, A COUPLE, A COUPLE DECISIONS. UM, AGAIN, WE STARTED IN 17. UM, THEY INITIALLY HAD A DESIGN AND IT WENT OUT FOR BIDS AND IT EXCEEDED, UH, I GUESS COUNCIL, UM, RE-LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, MAYBE WE, WE TAKE A, A LOOK AT MAYBE A DIFFERENT LOCATION, WHICH AT THAT TIME WAS THE LIBRARY. UM, WE ACTUALLY DID A, UM, A, AN AMENDMENT A CHANGE ORDER, IF YOU SAY, FOR $8,000. UM, AND THEY DID THAT. AND, UM, THE CONCLUSION I GUESS WAS TO, UH, LEAVE IT IN ITS ORIGINAL POSITION, WHICH IS, UM, NEXT TO PUBLIC WORKS. UM, SO, AND THAT ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, UM, FROM THERE, UM, COUNCIL AT THE TIME SAID, GO AHEAD, WE WILL, WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. UM, AND THEN WE, WE HAD A, BECAUSE IT STALLED OUT, WE HAD TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE DESIGN. AND, UM, AND SOME OF THAT INCLUDED STORM WATER CHANGE. UM, WE HAD TO LOOK AT THE SETBACKS. WE ACTUALLY HAD TO MOVE THE WHOLE BUILDING. SO THE, THE ENGINEERS HAD TO REDESIGN IT. AND THEN WE HAD TO BRING BUILDING CODES, UM, FROM THAT TIME TO THE CURRENT TIMES, UM, FOR, FOR THAT BUILDING. SO THERE WAS A, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, UH, PUT INTO, UH, RE IF YOU WANT TO SAY BRINGING IT BACK UP TO CODE. UM, AND, AND, AND, AND TO, FOR THE, AND I BROUGHT THEM WITH ME 'CAUSE UM, I TRIED TO DO SOME HOMEWORK ON THIS, UM, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A LITTLE BASELINE. BUT, UM, THE FIRST PROPOSALS WAS, UM, THE STAFF DID WAS, UM, WAS THE ENGINEER ONE. AND JUST, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I BROUGHT 'EM THE ORIGINAL, THE MEMO THAT MOVED IT. WE HAD 10. AND THE PROCESS OF EVALUATING, UM, EVERY TIME YOU DO AN EVALUATION, WHETHER IT'S BRINGING ON ENGINEERS OR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, WHATEVER, IT TAKES SEVERAL MONTHS. 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO EVALUATE IT, YOU HAVE TO GIVE 'EM TIME, YOU HAVE TO PUT IT OUT FOR BID, SO FORTH. SO AT THAT TIME IN 2017, THEY WENT, THEY HAD 10 AND THEY EVALUATED THE 10 AND THE SOLICITED, AND THEY PICKED [01:35:01] ONE AND BROUGHT IT TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. AND WE WENT FROM THERE. AND THEN WHEN THEY DID THE, UM, THE SECOND BID, UM, THEY WENT OUT AND, UM, I HAVE THE ORIGINALS AND THERE WAS, UM, AT THAT TIME THERE WAS, UM, NINE, UH, BIDS THAT CAME IN AND THEY WERE ALL COMPETITIVE AROUND FIVE, FIVE POINT SOMETHING MILLION. THE ONE I HAVE IN UP HERE IS 5.09 MILLION. UM, AND SO, UH, AGAIN, UH, DURING THAT TIME, THAT TOOK A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, I MEAN, SEVERAL MONTHS. UM, OUR LAST PROPOSALS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, I HAVE THE TIMELINE HERE, AND WE ACTUALLY STARTED IN JANUARY ONCE WE GOT THE DESIGNS TO PUT OUT THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. AND WE'LL FINISH, IF WE DO BRING IT BACK MAY 2ND, IT'LL BE MAY. SO FROM JANUARY TO MAY IS THE TIME YOU HAVE TO GO OUT. YOU HAVE TO GIVE SO MANY MO SO MANY WEEKS OR MAYBE A MONTH FOR, FOR BIDS, BRING IT BACK. SO EACH ONE OF THESE PROPOSALS PROBABLY TOOK 4, 5, 6 MONTHS DEPENDING ON THE COMPLEXITY OR HOW MUCH TIME THEY GAVE IT, THE EVALUATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE TIMES AND THINGS THAT HAPPEN, I JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC AND, AND THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THAT THE STAFF WAS CONTINUOUSLY TRYING TO, UM, EVALUATE AND MOVE THE, MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD. SO, SO I GUESS WHERE WE'RE AT NOW IS, UM, WE'RE AT THE END HERE. UM, WE, WHEN WE, WHEN WE DID THE CIP, WE DID ADD, UH, 2 MILLION BASED ON KIND OF LIKE THE LAST BIDS THAT WENT OUT. AND THEN WE SENT IT BACK OUT AND, UM, IT WAS ABOUT A MONTH AGO, I REMINDED COUNCIL THAT WE PUT IT OUT. UM, BUT BIDS HAVE BEEN TRICKY AT BEST. AND THAT, UM, WE HOPED THAT THEY WOULD COME BACK AT THE 6.5, BUT IRONICALLY I STATED, AND I HAD TO WATCH THE VIDEO THAT, UM, IT COULD COME BACK AS HIGH AS 3 MILLION. SO BE MENTALLY READY AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT HERE SOON. WHAT WAS THE APPETITE FOR FINDING THE COST DIFFERENCE OF THAT? AND SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT 3 MILLION HERE IN ABOUT A MINUTE. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE BIDS WE RECEIVED, WHICH I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, UM, ARE ABOUT NINE, 9.5 MILLION. AND WE RECEIVED SEVEN BIDS, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND THEY RANGED FROM, UH, WE USED 9.5 WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. WE, WE GOT REAL NUMBERS AND, UM, I CAN TALK ABOUT THOSE IF WE NEED TO, BUT, UM, THEY RANGED FROM ABOUT THE LOW END OF NINE TO THE LOW END OF 10, UM, IN THAT, IN THAT RANGE. SO, SO THIS IS NOW TALKING ABOUT KIND OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE FUNDING. SO INITIALLY WE HAD THE, THE GEO BOND, UM, AND THEN I JUST GAVE THE HISTORY, WENT OUT, WENT IT FOR BID, CAME BACK, AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO, UH, RE REDO THE, UH, DRAWINGS AND PUT IT OUT FOR BID AGAIN. AND THEN, SO WE, WE, UM, OBTAINED THE $2 MILLION MORE AND MORE OR LESS, AND WE HAD A TOTAL OF 6.5. AND SO THE BIDS CAME BACK AT 9.5. UM, AND SO NOW WE NEED THAT $3 MILLION. UM, SO, UM, AS A GROUP, UM, WE, WE SAT DOWN AND, AND LOOKED AT, WELL, WHAT PROJECTS COULD WE DELAY AND, UM, AND WHAT FUNDING CAN WE USE TO SUPPORT PROVIDING THAT $3 MILLION? AND, UM, THE, THE CITY MANAGER HAS MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL. UM, THIS WAS THE ONE THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD, WOULD BE THE BEST, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH OBTAINING THE NECESSARY $3 MILLION. UM, THERE'S RESERVE FUNDS, UM, AND THEN WE WOULD USE, UM, UH, MONEY FROM THE, FROM THE FIRE STATIONS, WHICH WE HAD IN THE CIP 2.2 TO, UH, BUY LAND AND, UM, FACILITATE THE DESIGN. AND THEN, UM, PUT A DELAY IN THE CITY HALL LOCATION ANALYSIS, WHICH, UM, WAS PROBABLY FINE. WE WERE LOOKING AT NORTHLINE AND NOW, UM, THAT'S KIND OF CHANGING DIRECTION AS WE SAW EARLIER. AND SO, UM, WE, WE PROBABLY HAVE TO GIVE THAT SOME MORE THOUGHT. UM, MARK COULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THIS, UM, THE OLD TOWN PARK. I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WE'RE, WE WOULD TAKE OF THE MONEY THAT'S LEFT, UM, 600, WE STILL HAVE SEVERAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS GOING ON. WE'RE FINISHED UP FIRE FLOW, WHICH WORKED OUT GREAT. UM, WE, WE HAVE THE STREET THAT WE STILL HAVE TO, UH, REPAIR AND, UM, PROBABLY A COUPLE OTHER SMALL PROJECTS. SO WHAT WOULD BE DONE WITH THAT PARK PROBABLY COULD BE DELAYED FOR ANOTHER YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF. OUR THOUGHT PROCESS, AND WE'VE WORKED WITH PARKS ON IT, IS THAT WE WOULD STILL BUY THE SHADE, BEEN TO MANY EVENTS. I KNOW THAT THE, UH, ENTERTAINERS WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE SHADE COVER. SO [01:40:01] THE, THE FUNDS THERE WOULD BE TO, TO SUPPORT THAT, MAYBE SOME OTHER NICETIES FOR THE PARK. UM, MAKE IT NICE FOR THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE, AND THEN WE WILL FIGURE OUT WHAT THE LONG-TERM, UM, SOLUTION WILL BE FOR THAT. THE OTHER, THE OTHER ONES YOU COULD LOOK AT AND, AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PROJECTS THAT THEY ARE AND THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE USING TO SUPPORT THEM, AND THEY'RE KIND OF JUSTIFIED IN THE SAME MANNER. THEY COULD CERTAINLY BE DELAYED. UM, THE OTHER THREE THAT WE LOOKED AT, WE TOOK THE ENTIRE FUNDING FROM THE, FROM THE FIRE STATION NUMBER SIX, WHICH WOULD BE BOTH THE LAND AND THE DESIGN AND, AND USED THAT FUNDING. UM, CITY HALL PRETTY MUCH TOOK A, A HIT ON EVERYONE . UM, BUT THIS CASE YOU COULD LOOK AT A DIFFERENT PARK, UM, UM, AND, AND USE THE PARK INSTEAD OF THE PARK WE HAVE IN THE BACK. AND, UH, THE OLD, WHOOPS, THE OLD TOWN PARK. SO, SO A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT IT. UM, IF, IF, IF YOU WANTED TO KNOW THE, THE STAFF THOUGHT THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION, UM, WAS THE BEST TO LEAVE THE MONEY FOR THE LAND, FOR THE FIRE STATION IN CASE WE SEE SOMETHING THAT COMES UP AND WE HAVE THAT, UM, AVAILABLE TO, TO SUPPORT, TO SUPPORT THAT ENDEAVOR. UM, AGAIN, YOU CAN USE THAT 1.4 MILLION, UM, I, I CALL RESERVE FUNDS OR TO, AGAIN, DIVIDE WITH THE FIRE STATION. BUT, UM, SO IF THE COUNCIL, UM, THIS IS A PRESENTATION, SO IF THE COUNCIL IS GUIDANCE, YES, PROCEED ON WITH WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST. UM, WE ALREADY EVALUATED THE CONTRACTS, UM, DID INTERVIEWS WITH THEM AND WE WOULD BRING THAT BACK BASED ON THE GUIDANCE THAT WE'RE GIVEN TONIGHT ON MAY 2ND TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UM, WITH THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. UH, COUNCIL WILL APPROVE THE CONTRACT AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. UM, I ALREADY SAID WE HAD SEVEN THAT WE, UH, WE DID, UM, THE EVALUATION TEAM, WHICH WAS, UM, PARKS ENGINEERING AND THE CIP TEAM, UM, UH, DID INTERVIEWS WITH THE THREE EYESIGHT IN THE FIRST ONE. IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY GOOD. IT HAD A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS FOR THEM. UM, SOME OF THE CONCERNS IS THAT SITE IS NEAR THE SCHOOL, SO WE WERE TRYING TO PREVENT TRAFFIC CONCERNS AGAIN, GET AHEAD OF IT THIS TIME. AND, UM, AND SO, UM, AGAIN, IN MAY WE WOULD, WE WOULD BRING IT BACK FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COUNCIL. WHOOPS. AND, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. UM, I WANTED TO AGAIN, PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. THIS PROJECT'S KIND OF HAD ITS UP AND DOWNS. I THINK WE HAVE, UH, AS A TEAM BACK HERE, WHICH IS GREAT, UM, WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S GUIDANCE FOUND A, A SOLUTION TO MOVE IT FORWARD. UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S DETRIMENTAL TO ANY ONE PARTICULAR PROJECT AND, UM, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU TO ALL STAFF THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH FIGURING THIS OUT. UM, YOU KNOW, THE BEST TIME TO PLANT A TREE IS 50 YEARS AGO. THE SECOND BEST TIME IS TODAY. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BECAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS JUST GO UP AND UP AND UP. SO I APPRECIATE YOU FIGURING OUT HOW TO JUST GET THIS DONE, UM, BEFORE IT GOES UP ANY FURTHER. COUNSEL, WHAT, UH, WHAT OPTION DO YOU LIKE THE BEST? I LIKE THE FIRST ONE THE BEST. I LIKE OPTION A TOO. SAME? YEP. DID ANYBODY LIKE SOMETHING OTHER THAN A DAN, CAN YOU PUT THOSE BACK UP THERE? SAY AGAIN? CAN YOU PUT THE OPTIONS BACK? NO, I SURE WILL. JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU WANNA, I LIKED OPTION A BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA STILL BUY THE LAND FOR THE FIRE STATION AND THAT, RIGHT? THE POTENTIAL STILL THERE TO FACILITATE DOING THAT IF, UH, SOMETHING ARISES. WELL, DO WE FEEL THAT? I GUESS THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION WITH THAT, THE 1.7 FOR THE FIRE STATION, DO WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S STILL ADEQUATE? NOT THAT YOU REALLY KNOW, BUT UM, YEAH, I'M NOT GONNA, I GUESS IT'S MORE ADEQUATE THAN COMPLETELY GUTTING IT. SO I'LL GO WITH, AND THE THING IS, IS THAT IF THERE'S, SAY THERE'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT COMES UP AND IT'S 3 MILLION, WELL THEN YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO FIND 3 MILLION. YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND, YOU KNOW, 1.2 MILLION OR 1.3 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE DO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT THERE THAT COULD BE AT LEAST A STARTING POINT. AND NOW WE'RE NOT STARTING FROM GROUND ZERO. AND SO MR. TURNER, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, UH, I THINK YOUR QUESTION, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS IS, IS ONE THAT WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS, UH, SOME OF THE BASE FUNDING LEFT, PARTICULARLY FOR THE FIRE STATION. UH, THERE I SENSED FROM LISTENING TO STAFF AND, AND, AND THE LAND PRICES IN THE AREA, [01:45:01] ALMOST ALL OF THESE WOULD HAVE SOME TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING ADDED TO THEM ANYWAY, EVEN IF YOU LEFT THEM WHOLE. SO, UM, IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOWED YOU A WAY YOU COULD MAKE PROGRESS ON THIS PROJECT. UM, ONE OF THE REASONS I BELIEVE A FIVE YEAR CIP WOULD BE GOOD, UH, IN SOME OF THESE CAPITAL AREAS IS IT COULD HELP YOU KEEP TRACK OF WHICH PROJECTS YOU HAVE AND WHAT IN, IN A DOCUMENT AND ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, UPDATE THE COST ESTIMATES FOR THOSE. UM, SO THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, MR. GREENWELL, COULD YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE OLD TOWN PARK AND, UM, KEEPING THE 360 7 JUST THROW ME OUT, RIGHT. SO THE OLD TOWN PARK, WE, WE, WE, WE KIND OF DID A, UM, BEHIND A NAPKIN ESTIMATE THAT, UH, WE THOUGHT WE COULD BUY, UM, A PRETTY NICE SHADE COVER OVER THE STAGE FOR, UM, ENTERTAINERS TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THE SUMMERTIME. UM, AND, UH, AND NOT, AND NOT BE UNDER THE BLAZING SUN. AND, AND I, I'VE BEEN OUT TO MANY OF THOSE EVENTS AND THE SHADE COVER IS, IS, IS NEEDED AND WE WOULD PROBABLY FACILITATE MAKING THAT HAPPEN IN, IN SHORT ORDER, KNOWING THAT'S KIND OF THE LAST THING WE DO TO THE PARK UNTIL WE GET SOME OTHER CONSTRUCTION MAYBE DONE. AND THEN FIGURE OUT IN THE FUTURE, UM, WHAT WE WANNA DO IN THIS AREA. AND SOME OF THAT MIGHT BE DRIVEN BY THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS COMPLETED. THE OTHER, OTHER, UM, UH, PATS THAT ARE COMING IN AND OPENING SHOP HERE, IF YOU WANNA SAY, AND KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN AND CLIENTELE. AND SO THAT MIGHT FIGHT FUTURE GUIDANCE. AND, UM, AND THEN THE NEXT THING WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IS, UM, FUTURE FACILITIES. I MEAN, WE'RE A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE HERE AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 400, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 50 EMPLOYEES IN OUR SURROUNDING CITIES AND OTHERS WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF POPULATION, YOU KNOW, HAVE 800 TO A THOUSAND. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT CITY HALL AND POLICE AND FIRE AND, AND PUBLIC WORKS. AND SO HOW DOES THAT BLEND INTO DOWNTOWN IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. AND SO THE CITY PARK OR, OR THE OLD TOWN PARK, I, I CALL IT, OR CITY PARK, UM, COULD PROBABLY BE HOLD OFF. 'CAUSE THERE'S A, I THINK A COUPLE BIG, BIG PIECES OF THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO THINK ABOUT ON WHERE WE WANT TO GO. SO THAT FUNDING IS, I THINK, USEFUL RIGHT NOW. UM, BUT THE SHADE COVER IS DEFINITELY NEEDED. I AGREE 100%. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE A IS OUR FAVORITE. YES. AND I JUST WANNA GIVE A NOD BEFORE WE WRAP THIS UP, I WANNA GIVE A NOD TO, UM, OUR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN VERY INVESTED, WHO HAVE COME OUT TONIGHT AND WAITED EIGHT YEARS FOR THIS . SO WE SEE YOU WE'RE WORKING ON IT. UH, DID ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT, [9. Leander History] ITEM NUMBER NINE, LEANDER HISTORY WITH CAT HOWELL. GOOD EVENING, MS. HOWELL. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UM, I DO WANNA SAY ONE THING ON THE SENIOR CENTER. I DID THE ENGINEERING ON THAT BACK IN 2017, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE DESIGN TEAM, UH, WORKED WITH THE, WELL, SOME OF THE LADIES THAT ARE HERE TODAY. AND, UM, THEY WERE VERY COGNIZANT OF COST ALL THE WAY THROUGH. SO THE DESIGN TEAM WAS VERY AWARE. IT'S JUST THAT CONSTRUCTION HAS CHANGED. YES, THANK YOU. UNFORTUNATELY. UM, OKAY, SO TONIGHT I AM HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BRANDING. UM, THIS COMES ABOUT THIS PAST WEEKEND. WE HAD THE MASON HERITAGE DAYS AT THE MASON HOMESTEAD, AND ONE OF THE, UM, BOOST THAT WE HAVE IS WITH CATTLE BRANDS. AND IT IS VERY, VERY POPULAR WITH, UH, ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG BOYS. I GUESS IT HAS TO DO WITH FIRE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THEY LOVE IT. SO I THOUGHT I'D TALK ABOUT BRANDING HERE IN LEANDER. LEANDER WAS, UM, VERY, UM, WE HAD THREE INDUSTRIES ESSENTIALLY. UM, AND ONE WAS COTTON, ONE WAS CATTLE AND RANCHING. UM, WE, WE RAISED, UM, COWS, SHEEP, GOATS AND TURKEYS, AND THEY DID TURKEY BRAND. THEY DIDN'T, YOU DIDN'T BRAND A TURKEY. YOU WOULD CUT THEIR, UM, THEIR WADDLE A CERTAIN WAY AND YOU WOULD REGISTER YOUR BRANDS OVER AT THE COUNTY. UH, BUT WE HAD TURKEY DRIVES. TYSON IS UP IN TEMPLE, SO THEY WOULD DRIVE THE TURKEY FROM LEANDER UP TO TEMPLE. UM, NOW THEY DRIVE 'EM AND WE HAVE BIG TURKEY RANCHES, OTHER PLACES, BUT THEY WOULD PHYSICALLY WALK THOSE TURKEYS FROM HERE UP TO TEMPLE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT. OKAY. UM, THIS IS A PICTURE. UM, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE IT COMES FROM. THE, THIS PICTURE IS AVAILABLE ONLINE FROM LIBRARY OF CONGRESS. IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE FROM THE TEXAS ARCHIVES. SO I BELIEVE IT IS FROM SOMEWHERE IN, UH, CENTRAL [01:50:01] TEXAS. UM, AND YOU NOTICE IT, THERE'S ACTUALLY SIX MEN AND IT TAKES ABOUT SIX MEN TO, UM, UH, BRAND EACH ANIMAL AND NOTICE THAT THEY ARE USING, UM, METAL BRANDS. THEY DON'T SHOW THE FIRE, BUT YOU HAVE TO BUILD A PRETTY, A PRETTY GOOD FIRE. SO THERE'S A FIRE SOMEWHERE, JUST NOT IN THAT PICTURE. UH, THIS IS VERY TYPICAL OF HOW BRANDING WAS DONE. THIS IS A BRAND BOOK. AND MY, WHEN I WAS YOUNG, MY MOTHER WOULD GO AND DO RESEARCH. AND THESE BRAND BOOKS ARE HUGE. THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABOUT THREE FEET TALL. THEY WEIGH 20, 25 POUNDS EACH. AND, UM, THEY ARE AT EVERY COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE IN, IN ESSENTIALLY UNITED STATES. AND YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND REGISTER YOUR BRAND. MY MOTHER, I DID NOT KNOW THIS AT THE TIME, BUT UM, SHE SAID I HAD A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT JOB AND MY JOB WAS TO GO AND COPY THOSE BRANDS FROM THE BRAND BOOKS. WHAT I DIDN'T REALIZE AT THE TIME, BUT I DO NOW THAT I'M AN ADULT, IS SHE WAS JUST KEEPING ME OCCUPIED SO SHE COULD DO WHATEVER SHE WANTED, BUT I THOUGHT I HAD A VERY IMPORTANT JOB. WELL, IT TURNS OUT I DID, UM, SOME OF THOSE PICTURES THAT I DREW FROM THOSE BRAND BOOKS OVER AT WILLIAMSON COUNTY, WE USED IN OUR HISTORY OF LEANDER BOOK. UM, THIS IS, SO WHEN YOU GO TO REGISTER YOUR BRAND, YOU UM, WHERE'S THE POINTER? HERE? IT HAS THE NAME, BUT OVER HERE, THAT'S THE RUMP OF THE ANIMAL. AND IT SHOWS WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BRAND. SO THIS ONE, THEY'RE GONNA BRAND THE LEFT HIP, THIS ONE, THEY DO SOMETHING ON THE LEFT HIP AND THEN THE RIGHT HIP. AND THIS IS, THAT'S HOW THEY MARK WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING IT. AND THESE ARE THE SHAPES THAT THEY USE GOING DOWN HERE. THESE ARE SOME OF THE OLDEST BRANDS. UM, OR EXCUSE ME, THESE ARE SOME OF THE MOST FAMOUS BRANDS IN TEXAS. AND UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE, UH, YELLOWSTONE, THERE'S THE FOUR SIXES RIGHT THERE. UM, IT'S ON THERE. THERE'S XIT, WHICH COMES LATER, WHICH IS THE LARGEST RANCH IN TEXAS. UH, AND IT'S STILL THERE. WHERE'S X-I-T-X-I-T IS OVER HERE. AND LET ME GET TO THE NEXT ONE. THIS I GOT FROM A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITE, BUT YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S THE SAME ONE ONLY, IT'S THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER. THIS IS THE OLDEST RECORDED BRAND, 1762, UH, AND THEN STEVEN F AUSTIN'S BRAND, THIS AND THAT. AND NOTICE EACH BRAND IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. AND ONE THING THAT THEY DID WITH BRANDS IS WHEN YOU SOLD YOUR CATTLE, YOU WOULD SELL YOUR BRAND WITH THAT CATTLE, YOU WOULD SELL YOUR ENTIRE HERD, AND THAT BRAND WENT WITH IT. SO WHEN IT WAS TIME FOR YOU TO GO AND GET A NEW BRAND FOR YOUR NEW SET OF CATTLE, A LOT OF TIMES THEY WOULD TAKE THE SAME BRAND THAT YOU HAD BEFORE AND YOU WOULD ADD SOMETHING TO IT. SO NOTICE THAT THE ONE ON THE FIRST TOP LEFT, THIS ONE IS SIMILAR TO THIS ONE. SO WHAT THEY COULD HAVE DONE IS BECAUSE IT WAS VERY EXPENSIVE TO GET A BLACKSMITH TO MAKE YOUR BRAND, THEY WOULD TAKE YOUR OLD BRAND AND ADD ANOTHER SWEEP TO IT, OR THEY WOULD TAKE PART OF IT OFF, AND THAT'S HOW THEY WOULD CHANGE THE BRAND SO THAT YOU COULD REUSE THE PHYSICAL BRAND THERE. NOW, 1762 SEEMS LIKE A VERY LONG TIME. BRANDING HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE THE EGYPTIANS. THE EGYPTIANS WERE THE FIRST 1, 2800 BC WE HAVE HIEROGLYPHS SHOWING WHERE THEY WERE BRANDING. AND TODAY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL THIS MODERN TECHNOLOGY. WE'VE ALL SEEN THE, THE YELLOW AND ORANGE AND BRIGHT PINK TAGS ON THE, ON THE CATTLE, ON THE EAR TAGS. UH, WHAT THEY FOUND IS THOSE GET BROKEN, THEY FALL OFF. IT'S HARD TO IDENTIFY THE ANIMALS FROM LONG DISTANCES. UM, ESPECIALLY WITH, UM, BEEF CATTLE, YOU REALLY DON'T WANNA GET CLOSE TO 'EM. AND THEN THEY'VE TRIED, UM, ELECTRONIC, DIFFERENT ELECTRONIC MEANS. OH, OH, GOTTA GO. UM, ANYWAY, THEY'RE TURNING BACK TO BRANDING NOW. UM, THEY'RE FINDING THAT THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO HANDLE IT. BUT WE DON'T USE THE OLD, UM, UM, METAL BRANDS BEFORE WE USE ELECTRIC BRANDS. AND THIS IS JUST A EXAMPLE OF, OF WHERE THEY BRAND AND HOW YOU MARKET. AND IT'S USING THE XIT, WHICH AGAIN IS THE MOST FAMOUS BRAND IN, IN TEXAS. AND THAT WAS IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NICELY DONE. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE [ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION] GONNA MOVE INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. UH, ITEM 17 HAS BEEN PULLED FROM THE AGENDA AND WILL BE BROUGHT BACK ON A FUTURE AGENDA. SO WE'LL BE CONSIDERING CONSENT. AGENDA ITEMS 10 THROUGH 16 AND 18 THROUGH 21. THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM, MOTION TO APPROVE, SECOND MOTION. AND A SECOND IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY MOVING [22. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Comprehensive Plan Case CPA-23-0009 to amend the Comprehensive Plan land use category from Multi-Use Corridor to Neighborhood Residential and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-23-0102 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) and Interim SFR-2-B (Single-Family Rural) to SFS-2-B (Single-Family Suburban), LC-2-B (Local Commercial), GC-2-A (General Commercial), and GC-3-A (General Commercial) and on eight (8) parcels of land approximately 290 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R506005, R485247, R485248, R031575, R392187, R392188, R031534, and R031533; and more commonly known as 14750 Ronald W. Reagan Boulevard, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.Discuss and consider action regarding Comprehensive Plan Case CPA-23-0009 as described above. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-23-0102 as described above.] [01:55:01] INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. ITEM NUMBER 22, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CASE CPA DASH 23 DASH ZERO NINE TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE CATEGORY FROM MULTI-USE CORRIDOR TO NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL. AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z DASH 23 DASH 0 1 0 2 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING ON EIGHT PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 290 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, GRIFFIN. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND A ZONING CASE FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF JOURNEY PARKWAY. AND, UH, RONALD REAGAN, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL DID RECEIVE A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL REVIEW FOR THIS PROJECT. UM, THEY CAME IN REQUESTING TO DO AN AMENDMENT TO THE PLAN. UM, INITIALLY THEY WERE REQUESTING TO REMOVE THE, THE CORRIDOR ALONG JOURNEY TO MAKE IT ALL RESIDENTIAL. UM, THE COUNCIL REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND THEY WERE AGREEABLE TO ALLOWING THIS PIECE AS UM, RESIDENTIAL, BUT THE REMAINDER IS MULTI-USE, UM, CORRIDOR. SO THEY ARE BRINGING FORWARD A REQUEST IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT PROPOSAL REVIEW. UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING TO DO 70 FOOT LOTS IN ALL OF THE, THE LIGHT GREEN AREA THAT WRAPS AROUND IT, AND THEN LOCAL COMMERCIAL HERE, AND THEN GENERAL COMMERCIAL ALONG RONALD REAGAN. UM, THIS REQUEST, UH, DOES COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IF YOU APPROVE THE AMENDMENT THAT'S ON THE AGENDA. UM, I WANTED TO REMIND THE COUNCIL WHEN YOU'RE TAKING ACTION, YOU HAVE TO TAKE TWO ACTION STEPS. ONE FOR THE COMP PLAN, ONE FOR THE ZONING. UM, THIS CASE WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DURING THEIR MEETING LAST WEEK. UM, AND THEY DID, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THEY DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT ALCOHOL SALES ON THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. UM, WE DID REMIND THEM THAT THE TABC REGULATIONS WOULD STILL APPLY. UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, COME ON UP. YOU'RE GOOD. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU ALL, UH, FOR LETTING US TALK TONIGHT. THANKS FOR THE COOKIES AND, AND THE TURKEY BRANDING. THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING. SO WE PICKED A GREAT NIGHT TO COME. SO WE TREAT YOU RIGHT. AND LEE, YEAH, . THANK YOU. YEAH. UM, YEAH, AS ROBIN SAID, WHO ROBIN AND STAFF HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH. WE CAME TO YOU ALL IN NOVEMBER AND SHE WENT OVER, UM, THE, UH, FLUME CHANGE THAT WE PROPOSED AND YOU GUYS WERE IN SUPPORT OF, OH, I'M SORRY. I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOUR PRESENTATION'S NOT IN THERE. THAT'S FINE. I'LL WING IT. OKAY. DON'T WORRY. YEAH. UH, SO, AND, AND I'LL KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH, I THINK WHERE, WHERE'S THE, UH, YOUR EXHIBIT IS. THERE YOU GO. THAT ONE'S PROBABLY THE BEST ONE TO GO OVER. UH, WE, WE WENT TO PMZ, UH, IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AND, UH, PNZ GAVE US SOME FEEDBACK. WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP PULLING THAT, UM, AND RESUBMITTING A DIFFERENT, UH, ZONING CASE. UM, WE JUST RECENTLY, AND WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF ON THAT AS WELL. UM, AS, AS, UH, ROBIN SAID, WE GOT APPROVAL FOR THAT. UM, WE'VE HAD OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, UH, AS WELL. WE'VE HAD ACTUALLY TWO NEIGHBOR, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. 'CAUSE WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TWICE. UM, HAD SOME REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS. UM, YOU KNOW, PRIMARILY THE, THE FEEDBACK WAS THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH DIDN'T WANT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, AND THEN NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH ACTUALLY WANTED TO HAVE IT BECAUSE IT WOULD ALLEVIATE, UH, TRAFFIC ON JOURNEY PARKWAY AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ACCESS TO THE SCHOOLS. UM, CERTAINLY TRAFFIC IS SOMETHING WE WILL TAKE CARE OF IN THE, UH, THROUGH THE TIA AND PRELIMINARY PLAN PROCESSES IS, IS OUR THOUGHTS. UM, BUT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT. WE THINK IT'S CONSISTENT, ASSUMING THE FLUME GETS CHANGED OR APPROVED. AND CONSISTENT WITH OUR, OUR MEETING IN, UH, NOVEMBER, WE BELIEVE WE'RE PROPOSING A ZONING THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING THE CITY WANTS IN REGARDS TO THEIR LONG-TERM PLAN. UM, AND ARE EXCITED ABOUT DELIVERING A, A FIRST CLASS PROJECT FOR, FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN AND NOBODY HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. I DO HAVE A POSITION TO READ INTO THE RECORD, BUT BEFORE THAT, UH, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? OKAY. UM, WE RECEIVED NOTICE FROM DAVID SMITH HE IS AGAINST. AND WITH THAT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. WE WILL NOW DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. CASE CPA DASH TWO THREE DASH 0 0 9 AS DESCRIBED ON THE AGENDA. COUNSEL, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? OKAY, SO I'M JUST GONNA, I'M JUST GONNA RECAP. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN YOU GUYS CAME IN FOR THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING. UM, I DON'T HAVE THE, THE SAME, UH, LIQUOR STORE CONCERNS BECAUSE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT, THE RULES THAT ALREADY EXIST AND, UM, THE REASON THAT YOU'RE SEEING. SO SOME PEOPLE ARE PRICING THAT CRAZY LITTLE LINE RIGHT THERE. UH, WHERE THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL IS, IS BECAUSE OF THE, THE, THE CREEK OR THAT GOES BY THERE TOO. AND THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE, UM, WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR WATER RESTRICTIONS AND WE'RE GOING ALL OF THESE THINGS, THE 70 FOOT WIDE LOT IS REALLY THE SMALLEST THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP IN THERE WITHIN THOSE GUIDELINES TOO. SO THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR A ZONING THAT'S ANY, ANY MORE [02:00:01] DENSE THAN SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALLOWED THROUGH OUR, THROUGH OUR, UH, RESOLUTION. SO, UM, ALL THOSE THINGS BEING SAID, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND I SECOND, WELL, WE HAVE TO DO IT TWO TIMES, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO I'M GONNA FOR COMPREHENSIVE THEN ZONING. YEAH. FIRST FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I'LL SECOND. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. MOTION AND SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'LL NOW DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z DASH 23 DASH 0 0 2 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY. NO. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE I SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 23 WAS WITHDRAWN FROM THE APPLICANT. AND SO ITEM 24, [24. Discussion regarding the Comprehensive Plan Implementation Schedule, Leander, Williamson & Travis Counties, Texas.] DISCUSSION REGARDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE WITH PLANNING MANAGER CASTILLO, WELCOME. HI, THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME WITH US. YES, IT IS. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. UM, THANK YOU YAN. UM, SO THE CITY COUNCIL DID ADOPT THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON APRIL 1ST, 2021. AND IT HAS BEEN UPDATED THREE TIMES SINCE THEN. IT WAS MARCH 3RD, 2022. JUNE 1ST, 2023, JANUARY 4TH, 2024. UM, CHAPTER SIX OF THE PLAN DOES INCLUDE AN IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE THAT LISTS THE GOALS AND STRATEGIES WITH TIMEFRAMES. THIS AGENDA ITEM INCLUDES A STATUS UPDATE FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE AND SHOWS PROGRESS ON ITEMS. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND WALK YOU THROUGH. THERE'S A LOT TO WALK THROUGH. UM, SO THERE'S BEEN A TOTAL OF 14 GOALS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. I'M NOT GONNA READ 'EM ALL. THEY'RE IN THE PACKET. UM, BUT THERE IS A VARIETY OF GOALS FROM ALL DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, ALL DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM, SO THIS KIND OF JUST DETAILS EACH GOAL THAT WAS COMPLETED, AND THEN THE FOLLOWING UPDATES WERE MADE TO ORDINANCES AND PLANS. SO UP THERE IS JUST KIND OF A SNIPPET AND I'LL READ MORE DETAILS. UM, APRIL, 2023, THE BUILDING CODE WAS UPDATED. THIS REMOVED LOCAL AMENDMENTS THAT WERE IN CONFLICT WITH NEW CODES AND REQUIRED THAT SHELL BUILDINGS ARE PRE PLUMBED FOR MULTIPLE RESTROOMS. ON JUNE, 2023, THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN WAS UPDATED. THIS WAS TO REVISE THE CLASSIFICATIONS OF SEVERAL ROADS. SEPTEMBER, 2023, THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN WAS COMPLETED. NOVEMBER, 2023, THE SIGN ORDINANCE WAS AMENDED AND IT WAS AN OVERHAUL TO THE STANDARDS TO ADDRESS AND ADDRESSED CHANGES IN RESPONSE TO NEW SIGN TYPES, MATERIALS AND TECHNOLOGY. IN JANUARY, 2024, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS UPDATED AND IT REDUCED THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING PERMITTED WITHIN THE URBAN MIXED USE ACTIVITY CENTERS AND EMPLOYMENT CENTERS UPDATED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO ADDRESS CHANGES TO THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN AND PROVIDED CLARITY ON SOME LAND USE CATEGORIES. ALSO, JANUARY, 2024, THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE WAS UPDATED AND IT SUPPORTED THE NEWLY ADOPTED ROADWAY IMPACT FEES BY REVISING THE ROADWAY ADEQUACY FEE TO ROADWAY ADEQUACY PAYMENT, IMPLEMENTED THE NEW USE, THE USE OF TRAFFIC STUDY, SCREENING, EVALUATION FORM, AND JUST GENERAL CLEANUP. SO THEN FEBRUARY, 2024, THE NOYCE ORDINANCE WAS UPDATED. THERE WAS AN OVERHAUL TO THE ORDINANCE AND MADE UPDATES IN RESPONSE TO CHANGES IN TECHNOLOGY, INCLUDING ADDING DEFINITIONS, MODIFYING MAXIMUM SOUND LEVELS, UPDATING PROVISIONS FOR CONSTRUCTION, DEMOLITION AND MAINTENANCE WORK, PROVIDED OPTIONS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE EXCEPTIONS IN CITY COUNCIL EXCEPTIONS. AND LASTLY, MARCH, 2024, THE WATER MASTER MASTER PLAN WAS UPDATED AND INCLUDED IDENTIFYING AND PRIORITIZING PROJECTS FOR THE FIVE, 10 AND 20 YEAR HORIZONS REACHING THE FULL BUILD OUT EXPECTATION TO BE IN 2040. THE STUDY WAS NAMED A 20 YEAR, 20 YEAR WATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WHICH SERVES AS AN UPDATE TO APPENDIX G WATER MASTER PLAN. THAT WAS A LOT OF UPDATES, . SO, UM, LASTLY ON MY REPORT, WE DO HAVE SOME FUTURE UPDATES THAT ARE UPCOMING THAT WILL BE GOING YOUR WAY. WE HAVE THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT CREATION, THAT WILL BE IN SPRING OF 2024. WE HAVE THE PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE COMING SPRING 2024 SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS GOING TO BE, YOUR REPORT SAYS SPRING, BUT WE'RE THINKING IT'S GONNA BE IN THE SUMMER. UM, COMPOSITE ZONING, ORDINANCE UPDATES AND CLEANUP IS ALSO GOING TO BE IN THE SUMMER. AND THEN LASTLY, THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODE. 2024 CODE PACKAGES AT THE END OF THE YEAR. Y'ALL HAVE BEEN BUSY. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS NOT AN ACTION ITEM. COUNSEL, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, DISCUSSION? JUST AMAZING. THERE'S SO MUCH WORK THAT'S DONE. AND TO ACTUALLY HAVE IT ALL ON ONE DOCUMENT OF ALL THINGS IS JUST FANTASTIC. THIS IS Y ALL JUST ONE YEAR'S WORTH. YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MIND BLOWING. SO APPRECIATE THE WORK. THANKS. WE APPRECIATE YOUR WHOLE TEAM SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THIS WAS GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM [25. Discuss and consider action on an appeal of an administrative decision regarding Article VI, Section 14 (c) of the Composite Zoning Ordinance pertaining to standards associated with utility lines on one (1) lot, approximately 22.27 acres in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R031208, commonly addressed as 10930 E. Crystal Falls Parkway; Williamson County, Texas.  ] 25, DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACTION ON AN APPEAL OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION REGARDING ARTICLE SIX, SECTION 14 C OF THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO STANDARDS ASSOCIATED WITH UTILITY LINES ON ONE LOT, APPROXIMATELY 22.27 ACRES IN SIZE AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. GRIFFIN IS HERE TO START OFF THE CONVERSATION, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS. SO I WAS THINKING WE'LL JUST DO THIS KIND OF LIKE WE DO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. SOUND GOOD? SO GIVE MY PRESENTATION AND THEN [02:05:01] YOU'LL HAVE A YES. OKAY. PRESENTATION THEN. SPEAKER. YES. PERFECT. UM, OKAY. SO THIS IS A, AN APPEAL OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION, UM, REGARDING OUR ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT FOR OVERHEAD UTILITY LINES. SO TODAY, THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T ALLOW FOR NEW PROJECTS TO ADD ADDITIONAL POLES TO THEIR PROPERTY. UM, IN THIS SITUATION, HUMANE HEROES STARTED THEIR EXPANSION AND THEY STARTED WITH, UH, PHASE THREE POWER, AND IT WOULD'VE REQUIRED A BORE UNDER CRYSTAL FALLS. AND IT WAS VERY EXPENSIVE. SO THEY HAD TO REDIVIDE REDESIGN THEIR PLANS FOR SINGLE PHASE. UM, AND IN, IN DOING THAT, THEY'RE NOW PROPOSING, UM, TO PLACE TWO NEW POLES IN THE PROPERTY. SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE SCREEN, IT'S THESE TWO RED POLES. THERE'S EXISTING OVERHEAD HERE THAT'S MARKED IN, UM, BLUE. UM, THIS WOULD HAVE A, A COST SAVINGS TO THE DEVELOPER. UM, 'CAUSE THEY'RE GOING OVERHEAD INSTEAD OF UNDERGROUND. UM, THE, THE STAFF HAS AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT ALLOWS US TO EVALUATE, UM, WAIVERS. WE'RE TIED TO, UM, CONFIRMING THAT THEY COMPLY WITH BUILDING CODES AND THERE ARE PUBLIC SAFETY REASONS. SO WE DON'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO APPROVE A WAIVER LIKE THIS. UM, SO WE MADE OUR DETERMINATION AND IT WAS FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. UM, DURING THE COMMISSION MEETING, THEY DID REVIEW THE REQUEST AND THEY VOTED TO DENY THE APPEAL WITH A FIVE TO TWO, EXCUSE ME, FIVE TO TWO VOTE. UM, AND THAT'S IT FOR MY PRESENTATION. I'M GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, WE DO HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THE FIRST IS JEFF, I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY YOUR LAST NAME. DR. DEMEYER. STRUC. DEMEYER. THANK YOU. UM, PLEASE COME ON UP AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. UH, JEFF IS ALSO THE APPLICANT, AND SO GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR THREE MINUTES NOW AND WE MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS THAT WE CALL YOU UP FOR AFTER COMMENTS. OKAY. UM, WELL, GOOD EVENING. I'M JEFF STR DEMEYER. I'M THE CEO AT TEXAS HUMANE HEROES. UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL HEARING OUR APPEAL. TEXAS HUMANE HEROES IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE SO WE CAN PLACE TWO POWER POLES IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR 22 ACRES TO RIDE POWER TO OUR NEW SHELTER BUILDING. GRANTING THIS VARIANCE WILL ALLOW TEXAS HUMANE HEROES TO REDIRECT $65,000 FROM BORING UNDERGROUND TO SAVE ADDITIONAL 200 ANIMALS. THIS YEAR, OUR EXISTING POWER LINES ALREADY RUN THROUGH THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY. THESE TWO POLES WILL BRING POWER 400 FEET CLOSER TO OUR NEW BUILDING. LAST MONTH, WE DID APPEAR BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ASKING FOR A VARIANCE. TWO OF THE MEMBERS SUPPORTED OUR REQUEST AND FIVE MEMBERS REJECTED IT. THOSE MEMBERS REJECTING OUR REQUEST STATED, IF WE DO IT FOR YOU, WE HAVE TO DO IT FOR EVERYONE AS THEIR REASONING. THE CITY ORDINANCE OFFERS A TWO STEP APPEAL PROCESS. SO ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE, IN UNIQUE AND UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES, AN APPLICANT MAY REQUEST AN EXCEPTION. WE'RE FOLLOWING THOSE STEPS. SO MORE FACTS AND INFORMATION CAN BE PROVIDED. AND THOROUGH AND THOUGHTFUL DELIBERATION CAN OCCUR. TWO OF THE MEMBERS SUPPORTED OUR REQUESTS. INSTEAD. IT WAS A REASONABLE REQUEST GIVING THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE PROXIMITY OF THE POLES TO THE STREET AND NEIGHBORS. ANOTHER MEMBER STATED, THE CITY ORDINANCE BY ITS TEXT ALLOWS FOR REASONABLE EXCEPTIONS. AND HOW OUR MISSION AS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION ADDS TO THE HEART OF LEANDER. I APPRECIATE THEIR THOUGHTFUL REMARKS. TEXAS HUMANE HEROES BEGAN 45 YEARS AGO. FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN LOCATED ON CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY IN LEANDER. IN THE EARLY YEARS, TEXAS HUMANE HEROES WOULD HAVE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY EVENTS ENCOURAGING FOLKS TO COME TO THE COUNTRY AND ADOPT ANIMALS. TEXAS HUMANE HEROES HAS SEEN THE CITY OF LEANDER BUILD UP AROUND OUR 22 ACRE SHELTER PROPERTY. MANY HOMES BUILT ALONG OUR PROPERTY LINE, NEW CORPORATE GAS STATIONS AND FED FOOD, FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS LINING THE INTERSECTION OF 180 3 AND CRYSTAL FALLS. DURING OUR EARLY YEARS, WE WORKED WITH THE CITY WHEN COUNTY ROAD 2 72 WAS WIDENED INTO CRYSTAL FALLS SELLING LAND BACK TO THE CITY FOR THE PROJECT AND PROVIDING DRAINAGE EASEMENTS. DURING OUR 25 YEARS IN LEANDER, WE HAVE SUPPORTED AND PROVIDED ANIMAL RELATED SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS WHO OWN ANIMALS, PROVIDING LOW COST SPAY NEUTER SURGERY TO CONTROL THE PET POPULATION, ALONG WITH VACCINATIONS TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF RABIES AND OTHER ANIMAL ILLNESSES IN THE COMMUNITY. WE ALSO SUPPORT CITY RESIDENTS WHEN THEY FIND STRAYS SCANNING FOR MICROCHIPS AND PROVIDING STRAY HOLES FOR ANIMALS. WHILE WE KNOW WE CAN TURN LEANER RESIDENTS AWAY AND HAVE THEM DRIVE OVER TO WILLIAMSON COUNTY SHELTER, WHO IS ALREADY AT CAPACITY. BUT AS A NONPROFIT, WE FEEL THAT SUPPORTING THE LANDER COMMUNITY IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. WE OPERATE TEXAS HUMANE HEROES WITH NO CITY, COUNTY, STATE, OR FEDERAL FUNDS. WE WELCOME THE GIRL SCOUTS AND BOY SCOUTS TO WORK WITH US. SO THEY MAY RECEIVE THEIR SERVICE BADGES. AND EAGLE SCOUT CANDIDATES HAVE COMPLETED MULTIPLE COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS FOR TEXAS HUMANE HEROES. AND WE HAVE HAD COUNTLESS LEANDER. YOU'RE OKAY. ISD STUDENTS GET THEIR VOLUNTEER HOURS WITH US. WE WORK HARD TO BE GOOD COMMUNITY SERVICE PARTNERS. I HOPE YOU'LL SUPPORT OUR REASONABLE REQUEST TO ALLOW US TO PLACE TWO POWER POLES IN OUR PROPERTY AND ALLOW TEXAS HUMANE HEROES TO SAVE MORE ANIMALS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. OUR [02:10:01] NEXT SPEAKER IS CAT HOWELL. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. MS. HOWELL, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ANDREA, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. UM, SO Y'ALL THAT KNOW, THAT KNOW ME, UM, YOU KNOW THAT I'M VERY INVOLVED WITH NONPROFITS AND I SIT ON, OH, I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS KAT HOWELL AND IT'S PICKLE MASON HOUSE. I'M SORRY. UM, SO Y'ALL KNOW THAT I'M VERY INVOLVED IN NONPROFITS. I SIT ON THE BOARD OF FOUR NONPROFITS, AND I'M IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING A FIFTH ONE AT THE MOMENT. UM, BUT YOU ALSO KNOW THAT I'M AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. UM, I AM AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL, ALTHOUGH I FEEL THAT $65,000 WOULD BE MUCH BETTER SPENT FOR HUMANE HEROES ON THE ANIMALS. UM, IN THIS CASE, I DO NOT THINK IT WOULD BE FAIR TO THE CITIZENS OF LEANDER, THE BUSINESSES OF LEANDER, THE PRIVATE CITIZENS OF LEANDER, THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE THE, THEY NEED TO SAVE SOME MONEY ON A PROJECT OR THEY HAVE A BUST IN THE PROJECT. WE HAVE OUR AT SENIOR CENTER WHERE THE, THE BUDGET HAS GONE WAY. IT'S ALMOST THREE TIMES WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY THAT HAPPENS ON PROJECTS EVERY DAY. UM, ELECTRICALLY WE HAVE CIVIL ENGINEERS THAT DO NOT PUT THE ELECTRICAL ON THERE, AND IT'S UP TO THE ELECTRICAL ENGINEER TO PUT IT ON THEIR DRAWINGS. CONTRACTORS DON'T ALWAYS CATCH THAT. SO WE HAVE PROJECTS ALL THE TIME THAT ARE A HUNDRED THOUSAND $250,000 THAT'S BEEN LEFT OFF OF THE BUDGET FOR THE PROJECT. AND THE PROJECT DIES. AND THEY'RE ALL WORTHY PROJECTS. WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE THAT HAPPEN HERE IN LEANDER IN THIS CASE, WE DO HAVE AN ALTERNATE. UM, IF I DID THE ENGINEERING FOR THIS, WE CAN DROP A, UM, WE CAN TURN THIS EXISTING LAST POLE INTO A RISER POLE AND GO UNDERGROUND FROM THERE. NOW, THAT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS BECAUSE THE HUMANE HEROES WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S ON THEIR PROPERTY CURRENTLY USING THE POLES. PEC WILL PAY FOR THAT, AND IT'S A LESS COST, BUT THERE IS AN ALTERNATE. IT'S IN BETWEEN ZERO AND 65, BUT THERE IS AN ALTERNATE TO IT. AND IT WILL BE MORE EQUITABLE TO THE CITIZENS AND THE BUSINESSES THAT THEY'VE BEEN TOLD NO, AND THEY WILL BE TOLD NO IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. SO THAT BEING FAIR TO EVERYONE, AND AGAIN, THAT COMES FROM ME, WHO IS A NONPROFIT SUPPORTER, VERY MUCH SO. AND I UNDERSTAND A DOLLAR IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO EVERY SINGLE NONPROFIT. BUT IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE AN ALTERNATE. THEY HAVE AN ENGINEER THAT NEEDS TO LOOK AT THEIR STUFF AGAIN. THEY HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT NEEDS TO LOOK AT THEIR STUFF AGAIN. AND WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE, AND IT'S THERE FOR A REASON, AND IT'S FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MS. HOWELL. THERE'S NOBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHED TO SPEAK? OKAY. UM, I'M JUST GONNA CALL YOU MR. JEFF. IS THAT OKAY? ? UM, CAN YOU COME UP AGAIN REALLY QUICKLY PLEASE? I WAS HOPING YOU COULD WALK US THROUGH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE GOT HERE, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE AGENDA AND, AND EVERYTHING HAS FOCUSED A LOT ON THE FINANCES, BUT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT WHAT PROCESS HAPPENED THAT GOT YOU TO WHERE YOU FEEL THIS IS THE OPTION. SO CAN YOU JUST START US OUT WITH THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT AND SURE. UM, WELL, SORT OF LIKE YOUR SENIOR CENTER. WE STARTED PLANNING THIS QUITE A WHILE AGO. UM, WE WERE EXPECTING TO PUT SEVERAL MORE BUILDINGS UP AND THE PRICE GOT AT HAND. SO WE'VE JUST STUCK WITH THE ONE BUILDING FOR THE MOMENT. UM, WE, UM, WE FILED FOR PERMITS THAT TOOK, UM, SEVERAL MONTHS. THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH PERMITTING. UM, I BELIEVE SOMEONE WHO WAS WORKING ON THE PERMITING WITH THE CITY HAD TO BE REMOVED FROM OUR PERMITTING CASE, AND IT HAD TO BE REASSIGNED BECAUSE THEY WERE, UM, POSSIBLY INTENTIONALLY DOING THINGS. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT HAPPENED THERE. UM, WE FINALLY GOT, UM, PERMITTING FOR, UM, SITE DEVELOPMENT. UM, WE HAD OUR PRE, UM, BUILDING, UM, MEETING WITH THE CITY AND THEY TOLD US TO MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE THE WATER LINE AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. WE WENT THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS. WE SUBMITTED SITE DEVELOPMENT. THEY IMMEDIATELY CAME BACK AND SAID, OH, THE WATER LINE NEEDS TO HAVE ITS OWN PERMITTING. SO WE HAD TO THEN REDO THE SITE DEVELOPMENT, PUT THE WATER LINE ON ITS OWN PERMIT, AND THEN RESUBMIT A SECOND PERMIT AND WAIT FOR THAT. UM, DURING THAT PROCESS, THINGS FINALLY GOT APPROVED. WHEN WE WENT TO START, UH, TO PUT IN THE WATER LINE AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, UH, THE CITY SAID WE HAD TO REPLACE THE SIX INCH LINE WITH THE 12 INCH LINE. WHEN WE DUG DOWN, THERE WAS NO LINE AT ALL. SO WE WENT BACK TO THE CITY, SOMEONE FROM THE WATER DISTRICT CAME OUT AND THEY SAID, OH, THE, THERE'S NO SIX INCH LINE THERE. [02:15:01] IT'S BURIED UNDER THE OLD CRYSTAL FALLS. WHEN THEY EXPANDED IT. AND THE NEW LINE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, THE NEW LINE IS THE NEW LINE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD WAS NOT A SIX INCH, IT WAS AN EIGHT INCH. SO THEN WE WENT BACK TO THE CITY, UH, PLANNING AND SAID, THERE'S NO SIX INCH. DO WE SUBMIT NEW PLANS FOR AN EIGHT INCH? DO WE STILL DO THE 12 INCH? UH, THE CITY SAID, WELL, YOU JUST NEED TO SUBMIT WHAT YOU THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND THEN WE WILL RESPOND TO THAT EACH TIME. THAT'S A THREE WEEK PROCESS. SO WE JUST RESUBMITTED, STATING THAT WE'D PUT THE 12 INCH LINE IN. THEY APPROVED THAT. AND THEN WE PUT THE 12 INCH LINE IN. WE HAD TO CONNECT TO THE THREE FIRE HYDRANTS DOING A EIGHT INCH TO 12 INCH CONNECTION FOR THE THREE FIRE HYDRANTS. THE, UM, OFFICE PARK NEXT TO US WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED, THEY DID NOT EXTEND THE WATER LINE DOWN TO THEIR EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. UM, THEY JUST HOOKED INTO THE WATER METER THAT'S ON THE CORNER. SO, UM, WE PUT THE WATER LINE IN AND WE CAPPED IT AT THE FIRE HYDRANT AT THE EDGE OF OUR PROPERTY. UM, SO WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS. THE ELECTRICAL, UM, STARTED, UM, THE, THE ACTUAL LOT THAT YOU SEE WHERE THE BLUE LINE IS RUNNING THROUGH, USED TO BE OWNED BY TEXAS MAIN HEROES. WE BOUGHT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY FROM THE BELL FAMILY. THEY HAVE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET FROM US. MANY YEARS AGO THAT PROPERTY WAS SOLD BACK TO THE BELLS BECAUSE THE ORGANIZATION NEEDED MONEY THAT HAS BEEN USED BY U'S ENVIRONMENTAL. THEY'VE BEEN LEASING IT FROM THE BELLS, THE BELLS, PUT IT UP FOR SALE. IT SOLD SEVERAL YEARS AGO. THE NEW OWNER CONTACTED US SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WINNING AN EASEMENT ONTO OUR ROAD BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO DEVELOP IT. UM, WE SAID, SURE. THAT PROJECT DIDN'T GO THROUGH. WE, UH, THEN REACHED BACK OUT TO HIM STATING THAT WE ARE DOING OUR BUILDING. CAN WE PUT ANOTHER POLE UP TO BRING THREE PHASE IN? 'CAUSE WE NEEDED TO DO AN EASEMENT ONTO HIS PROPERTY TO GET THE POLE IN, BECAUSE SEVEN TIMES THAT WE REACHED OUT, NO RESPONSE. SO WE LOOKED AT HOW COULD WE GET THREE PHASES OF THE PROPERTY. UM, AGAIN, LEANDER HAS AN ORDINANCE THAT YOU CANNOT GO OVER ROADWAYS WITH POWER LINES. SO TO GET IT FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF CRYSTAL FALLS TO THE SOUTH SIDE, WE WOULD'VE HAD TO BORE UNDER CRYSTAL FALLS. UM, SO WE REDID THE PLANS BACK TO, UM, SINGLE PHASE, WHICH MEANT ADDING MORE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS TO SUPPORT THE SINGLE PHASE. AND WE RESUBMITTED THOSE PLANS, AND NOW HERE WE ARE AGAIN. SO, UM, WE PAID $85,000 IN OUR PERMITTING FEES, WHICH, UM, I'VE TALKED TO COUNTERPARTS AT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO SAY THAT THE CITY WAIVES THOSE FEES OR SOMETIMES DISCOUNTS THOSE FOR NONPROFITS. UM, SO WE RAN THE SEWER FROM THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK, AND WE'VE GOT SEWER HOOKED UP AS WELL. AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE KEPT REACHING OUT TO THE OWNER OF THE FRONT LOT IS BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THE POWER LINE GOES DIRECTLY THROUGH THE PROPERTY. SO AT SOME POINT, IF HE DECIDES TO DEVELOP IT, HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE POWER LINES AS WELL. YOU KNOW, AND THEY MAY HAVE TO GO UNDERGROUND. HE'S ALSO GONNA HAVE TO TRENCH THROUGH OUR PROPERTY TO GET BACK TO THE SEWER BECAUSE THE SEWER RUNS ALONG THE BACKSIDE OF OUR PROPERTIES BEHIND THE HOUSES. SO THAT'S SORT OF HOW WE, IT'S BEEN AN ORDEAL. YEAH. IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR, ? THANK YOU. YES. UM, YEAH, JUST HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT THAT, THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER THIS. YEAH. UM, AND I THINK THAT IT'S MORE THAN JUST A REQUEST OF, OH, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. LIKE, I THINK THERE'S BEEN ACTUAL HARDSHIP THROUGH A LOT OF THIS. WELL, IT, WHEN THE, WHEN THE POWER LINE ALREADY RUNS FROM CRYSTAL FALLS ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY, I MEAN, THERE'S ALREADY OVERHEAD LINES ON THE PROPERTY. THOSE AREN'T GOING ANYWHERE. AND THEN THERE'S ONE LINE THAT COMES ACROSS AS WELL THAT HOOKS IN TO SUPPORT ONE OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE. SO THERE'S ALREADY MULTIPLE OVERHEAD LINES ON THE PROPERTY. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S 400 FEET OF POWER LINES OVER AT POWER LINES. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . UM, I'LL SAY I'M NOT SUPER CONCERNED ABOUT SETTING A PRECEDENT OF, WE'RE ALLOWING OVERHEAD LINES. I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT SETTING A PRECEDENT THAT WE DON'T DO THE RIGHT THING WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS. UM, AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THIS. UM, COUNSEL, Y'ALL HAVE DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. WELL, I, I DO ACTUALLY. OKAY. I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION. GO AHEAD. SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS A UNIQUE AND UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE. IT, IT COMES [02:20:01] DOWN TO WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS MONETARY. UM, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE PASSION THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE EMAILS HAVE, HAVE COME IN AND, AND WHILE SOME OF THEM WERE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ACCURATE AND WHAT WAS STATED, I CAN APPRECIATE THE INTENT BEHIND THEM. SO I HOPE THAT ANYTHING THAT I MIGHT SAY WILL BE RECEIVED WITH THE SAME GRACE OF MY INTENT. UM, I'VE BEEN KNOWN TO BE TO THE POINT, I'M NOT THE EMOTIONAL PERSON. HOWEVER, THESE EMAILS WERE NOTHING BUT A MOTION THAT WE RECEIVED. UM, I'M, I'M JUST GOING TO JUST SAY THAT I, I'M, I'M GONNA ASSUME THAT THE, THE EMAILS THAT WE RECEIVED ARE SUPPORTERS AND, UM, AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S PHENOMENAL. UM, WE PROBABLY RECEIVED OVER A HUNDRED AND, YOU KNOW, I, AGAIN, THEY'RE PROBABLY SUPPORTERS, AND THIS IS HYPOTHETICAL, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST PUTTING THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE. IF EVERYBODY WROTE A CHECK FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS, YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE. UM, BUT THEY PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE WRITTEN CHECKS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I SAY IT'S JUST, I'M JUST PUTTING THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE AS THE PUTTING A VALUE ON THAT, THAT EMAIL, UM, SOCIETY IN GENERAL HAS LOST CIVILITY. AND THIS IS A MESSAGE TO EVERYONE. THIS IS NOT A LEANDER ISSUE. IT'S A, IT'S AN ISSUE EVERYWHERE. UM, I WAS VERY BOTHERED BY SOME OF THE ACCUSATIONS, BY THE EMAILS THAT WERE SENT TO US, AGAINST STAFF AGAINST US. WE HATE KITTENS. WE HATE PUPPIES. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT WATER. UM, QUITE HONESTLY, I'M GONNA ASSUME THAT THE EMAILS THAT WE RECEIVED, THEY DON'T KNOW WHO WE ARE, COULDN'T STATE US BY NAME, DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE UNPAID VOLUNTEERS. WE'RE NOT POLITICIANS. WE'RE ELECTED OFFICIALS. SO WITH THAT, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE, I'M, I'M RECEIVING THOSE AS EMOTIONAL EMAILS. FORTUNATELY, I DON'T MAKE EMOTIONAL DECISIONS IF I DID BEFORE ANY OF THOSE CAME IN, I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AS A COMMON SENSE THING TO DO. IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WELL THERE'S OVERHEAD POWER LINES THERE. IT, IT MAKES SENSE. JUST GO AHEAD. IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE. AND FROM AN EMOTIONAL PERSPECTIVE, WE DON'T, IT'S NOT US THAT THAT'S NOT A FEE. THAT $65,000 IS NOT A FEE THAT LEANDER IS CHARGING. THAT IS A FEE FOR YOU TO PAY SOMEBODY TO TRENCH AND DO THE WORK. CORRECT. THAT'S NOT A FEE. YES. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE EMAILS, OR SOME OF THE EMAILS, MANY OF THE EMAILS THAT LEANDER IS CHARGING YOU $65,000 FOR SOMETHING. WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO WAIVE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GONNA PAY SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THE WORK. YOU HAVE TO PAY PEOPLE TO DO THE WORK. UM, I WOULD SAY HAVE 'EM EMAIL, WHOEVER'S GONNA DO THE WORK AND SAY, PLEASE DO THIS FOR FREE. AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE A, A GREAT EMOTIONAL THING TO DO. UM, SO WITH, WITH THE EMOTIONAL PART, I WOULD SAY, YEAH, LET'S JUST DO IT AND WE'LL PAY FOR IT. WE'LL JUST PAY FOR IT. WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO, WE'LL PAY FOR IT. BUT WE DON'T DO THAT. WE CAN'T DO THAT. UM, AND BECAUSE WE DON'T MAKE THESE EMOTIONAL DECISIONS, IF WE DID, I'D SAY ABSOLUTELY NOT. BASED ON THOSE EMAILS, THEY DID NOT HELP YOU. NOT ONE OF THEM, THEY DIDN'T HELP AT ALL. THEY ACTUALLY HURT. BECAUSE AS AN, IF I WERE AN AN EMOTIONAL PERSON, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY SAY NO. UM, BUT I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A COMMON SENSE PERSPECTIVE AND, AND UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE CODE IS, EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE, UM, TRYING TO WORK AROUND. AND IT'S TO TRY TO HELP YOU DO SOMETHING THAT WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, OFFER, I MEAN, USE THAT MONEY TOWARD SOMETHING BETTER. OF COURSE. UM, AND WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT WITHOUT SETTING A PRECEDENT? UM, WHERE REMOVE TEXAS HUMANE HEROES FROM THE SCENARIO, I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO DO IT NONPROFIT, THEY DON'T PUT IN THE, IN THE, IN THE FIRE CODE OR IN THE SAFETY CODE OR IN THE BUILDING CODE THAT YOU HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY UNLESS THEY'RE A NONPROFIT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT THAT WAY. UM, IT, IT'S NOT SUBJECT OR, OR, UM, COST SUBJECT TO CHANGE DUE TO CUSTOMER'S ATTITUDE OR CUSTOMER'S ABILITY TO PAY. IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE TO REMOVE THE EMOTION FROM IT, THE NAME OF TEXAS [02:25:01] HUMANE HEROES, AND JUST SAY, DOES THIS MAKE SENSE FOR THIS BUILDING TO, TO BE ABLE TO PUT A POLE THERE? AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT BECAUSE I AM NOT, I'M, I'M NOT A SAFETY EXPERT. I'M NOT AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. UM, SO I, I WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE VOTING FOR. UM, IN MY, JUST A, JUST AN OPINION. UH, I KNOW WE, WE GO WITH UNDER UNDERGROUND POWER LINES FOR A REASON. AND I WOULD THINK BECAUSE OF THE TRANSFORMERS BEING OVERHEAD, THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY BETTER SERVED LONG TERM. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE INVESTING AS MUCH AS YOU ARE INTO THIS, WHICH I THINK IS FABULOUS. I MEAN, I HAVE TWO FRIENDS THAT VOLUNTEER. I, I THINK YOU'RE A GREAT ORGANIZATION, SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO GO ANYWHERE. I WANT YOU TO STAY HERE. AND WITH THAT IN MIND, I THINK YOU'RE BETTER SERVED TO HAVE THAT TRANSFORMER UNDER THE GROUND. UM, AND I COULD BE WRONG AND SOMEBODY CAN PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. UM, BUT LONG TERM, YOU MAY BE BETTER TO SPEND THAT $65,000 AND DO IT. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHERE I AM NOW. AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON ANY OF THAT. WELL, THE, THE POWER POLES ARE GOING TO BRING THE POWER CLOSER TO THE BUILDING. MM-HMM. , YOU, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE LAST POWER POLE IS. WE WILL THEN GO UNDERGROUND AND UP TO THE BUILDING, TO THE TRANSFORMERS. SO, SO, AND THE RED LINE IS, IS UNDERGROUND? NO. IS THE RED LINE IS ABOVE GROUND. MM-HMM. , THE LAST.AT THE VERY TOP IS THE FINAL POWER POLE. THE POWER WILL THEN GO UNDERGROUND AND WE WILL GO UNDERGROUND AND TRENCH UP TO THE BUILDING. SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANY OVERHEAD, UM, TRANSFORMERS OKAY. FOR THE PROJECT. UM, THE TRANSFORMERS, UM, WERE POURING PADS AND THEY WILL SIT ON THE GROUND BY THE BUILDING. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. THAT HELPS. THANK YOU. UM, AND I DO APOLOGIZE FOR, YOU KNOW, EMAILS THAT WERE SENT. UM, WE HAVE 13,000 SUPPORTERS. MM-HMM. . UM, WE ASKED THEM JUST TO EMAIL AND TELL THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT OUR VARIANCE REQUEST. MM-HMM. , UM, WE DID NOT ASK THEM TO GO INTO ANY GREAT NASTINESS. UM, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S THE CIVILITY I SPOKE OF. SURE. IT'S JUST, THERE'S, THERE'S THIS UNDERLYING MESSAGE SOMEWHERE. SOMEBODY STARTED THIS CONCEPT THAT IF YOU YELL AT PEOPLE AND INSULT THEM, THAT THEY'LL, YOU'LL WIN THEM OVER. AND IT JUST DOESN'T . WE, WE'VE BEEN ON THE RECEIVING THAT A FEW TIMES WITH SOME YES. WE HAVE HAD, UM, ANIMAL PEOPLE CAN BE, UM, YEAH, WELL, PEOPLE IN GENERAL, IT'S NOT NO . YEAH. THAT'S WHY I SAY IT'S NOT LEANDER. IT IS. IT'S, IT'S ALL OVER. WE'VE LOST THAT CIVILITY AND, AND I, I JUST DON'T WANT TO BOW TO THAT. SURE. YOU KNOW, I, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS FOR VARIANCE. MM-HMM. , THERE'S A TWO STEP PROCESS THAT ALLOWS FOR VARIANCE. EVEN WHEN WE WERE IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING, UM, COMMITTEE LAST MONTH, ONE OF THE MEMBERS DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THERE WAS A TWO STEP PROCESS FOR A VARIANCE, WHICH WAS SURPRISING BEING ON THAT COMMITTEE. MM-HMM. . UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THE CODE IS WRITTEN THAT WAY, IF NOT US, THEN AT WHAT POINT, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU ALLOW FOR VARIANCE? AND IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA ALLOW FOR VARIANCES, AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE, IT SHOULDN'T BE AN OPTION. RIGHT. IT SHOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WASTING EVERYONE'S TIME. MM-HMM. , IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN OPTION FOR US TO APPLY FOR A VARIANCE. SO, OKAY. UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF THAT, AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW, BUT DO HAVE WE, HAVE WE ISSUED A VARIANCE ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEFORE? NEVER. THANK YOU. UM, WE MAY HAVE MORE, BUT I, THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS ISN'T, UM, TECH TECHNICALLY A VARIANCE. OKAY. UM, SO IN THE, IN THE ORDINANCE, IT CALLS FOR STAFF TO MAKE A DECISION. AND WE DID. SO HE'S HERE, UM, APPEALING OUR DECISION. MM-HMM. . AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THE COMMISSION WASN'T AWARE. 'CAUSE WE DON'T GET A LOT OF APPEALS. THIS IS THE FIRST YEAH. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND, AND THE SCOPE THAT STAFF CAN MAKE THE DECISION IS MUCH MORE NARROW THAN WHAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER ON OURS. UM, SO IN MY UNDERSTANDING, UNIQUE AND UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE, I MEAN, IS THAT WHEN WE CAN, WHEN, WHEN IT'S, THAT'S THE GUIDELINE FOR US TO OFFER A VARIANCE. ACTUALLY THE GUIDELINE IS, I MEAN, UNUSUAL JUST TO APPLY YEAH. READ. THERE'S NO GUIDELINE FOR US DOING THE VARIANCE. VARIANCE IS WHEN YOU HAVE A HARDSHIP THAT YOU DIDN'T, CAUSE IT'S NOT FINANCIAL IN NATURE. SO LIKE, IF YOU'RE DOING A, A DEVELOPMENT AND YOU CAN'T ADHERE TO THE SETBACKS BECAUSE OF A TREE YOU'RE TRYING TO SAVE. SO IT'S A, A SITUATION THAT YOU DIDN'T CREATE. AND, UM, IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE. MM-HMM. . YEAH. THAT'S A, A VARIANCE THOUGH. SO THIS IS AN APPEAL OF A, A DECISION. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST WANNA ADD A CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT I MISSED SOMETHING ABOUT THE, THE CIVILITY IN THE EMAILS. AND I'VE BEEN LOOKING THROUGH, THE [02:30:01] VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ARE VERY KIND. UH, I ONLY SAW A COUPLE, AND IT'S ABOUT 10, EIGHT TO 10%. YEAH. I READ THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THEM TOO, AND RESPONDED ALL. YEAH. THEY WERE SUPPORTING JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING AND THINKING THAT WE'RE CHARGING A FEE LIKE THAT. LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT, IT'S LIKE, GET, I DON'T, I I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE WHATEVER WE DO, JUST THAT THEY UNDERSTAND. YEAH. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE, THIS PROCESS, THE APPLICANT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE APPLICANT'S RE RESPONSIBILITY FOR, FOR THE WAY THAT THOSE PEOPLE RESPOND. NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. NO, NO. THAT'S WHY I SAID WHAT I DID. THIS IS WE REMOVE ALL OF THAT. , CAN I ASK STAFF A QUESTION TOO ABOUT THE ORDINANCE? UM, IS THIS ORDINANCE AND THIS PIECE OF IT, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, NORMAL AND CUSTOMARY? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT HAS CAUSED UNDUE STRESS FOR OTHER BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA? AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT CITIES AROUND US? LIKE IS THIS A NORMAL VERY COMMON. IT'S A COMMON. OKAY. THANK YOU. IF THEY, IF THEY WERE TO, IF THEY WERE TO EXPAND AND BUILD THE REST OF THE PROJECT, WHEN OTHER FUNDS WERE AVAILABLE, IS THERE ALWAYS A CHANCE TO TRENCH AT A LATER DATE AND THEN TO DO SOMETHING TOO? SO THAT'S LIKE A, THAT'S A POSTPONEMENT OF ACTUALLY BURYING EVERYTHING THERE. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD GO ON. MM-HMM, . OKAY. AND THEN, I KNOW THIS IS VERY RANDOM TOO, BUT YOU MENTIONED, AM I ALLOWED TO CALL KA UP? YEAH, WHY NOT? YOU SAID A, THERE WAS ANOTHER OPTION. UM, THEY COULD USE THE EXISTING, NO, I'M SORRY. UM, YOU CAN USE HIS EXISTING POLE RIGHT HERE AND DROP YOUR, IT'S CALLED A RISER POLE. AND DROP YOUR RISER THERE. AND THEN TRENCH ESSENTIALLY THE SAME, THE SAME DISTANCE WHERE THEY'RE SHOWING OVERHEAD AND NOT USE THE POLES. THAT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE IT IS TRENCHING. UM, BUT IT WOULD ELIMINATE THE TWO POLES. UH, SO IT'D BE MORE LIKE A, UH, RESIDENTIAL IN NEIGHBORHOODS. IT WOULD LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS DO, BUT BE MORE EXPENSIVE. SO THAT THAT'S IT WOULD, IT WOULD, UM, REQUEST THOUGH IS YEAH. TO NOT, NOT TO, NOT TO NOT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE ALTERNATIVE IS THERE. WELL, UM, PART OF THIS TOO IS THE, THIS IS NOT TOTALLY IN THE CITY'S JURISDICTION BECAUSE THIS IS PEC. THIS IS NOT A CITY OWNED UTILITY. MM-HMM. . UH, SO THAT'S COMPLICATING IT. BUT THERE, SO THE 65,000 IS FOUR DROPPING DOWN AT THAT POLE AND THEN TRENCHING THERE. CORRECT. OKAY. IT WASN'T TRENCHING UNDERNEATH. I DON'T THINK THAT WAS MADE CLEAR IN THE, THE OTHER STUFF. UM, YEAH. THAT POLE REMAINS THERE NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS TODAY. RIGHT? YES, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. DO YOU KNOW HOW TALL THE POLES, HOW SHORT THEY WOULD DO THE NEW ONES? I DID NOT. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE POLES, UM, IT COULD BE THAT THE EXISTING POLE, THAT POLE RIGHT THERE IS A TALL POLE, AND THEY COULD LOWER THESE POLES SO THAT THEY ARE NOT MUCH TALLER THAN THE BUILDING. SO THEY, THEY REALLY COULD BE SNUG UP AGAINST THE BUILDING. THE ISSUE HERE IS HOW EQUITABLE IS THIS TO EVERYONE ELSE THAT GOES THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF. AND BY THE WAY, JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW THIS, ALL OF THESE EXTRA FEES AND ALL THAT STUFF, EVERYONE THAT DEVELOPS IN THE CITY GOES THROUGH ALL THAT. UM, I'M, I'M GONNA ACTUALLY THANK YOU. DO A, A CORRECTION REALLY QUICK TO THAT. BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRECEDENT, I REMEMBER WHEN THIS COUNCIL, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WAIVED A LOT OF THE FEES FOR UNITY CLINIC. MM-HMM. . UM, IT WAS A NONPROFIT THAT WAS COMING IN AND DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER ALL OF THEIR COSTS. AND WE FELT THAT IT WAS A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY. AND SO WE CAN DO ONE-OFFS WHEN WE SEE FIT. SO MY ONLY, MY LAST CONCERN WOULD, IS THERE A SAFETY CONCERN IF THEY'RE DROPPING THE POLES RATHER THAN LIKE BEARING THIS? WOULD I ACT, I'M, I'LL GO FOR A STEP. THAT ONE, THE POLE, THE POLE HEIGHT WAS, IS GUIDED BY THE NESC. OKAY. AND THAT'S THE CODE THAT ALL ELECTRIC UTILITIES IN THE UNITED STATES FOLLOW. OKAY. SO IT WOULD FOLLOW ALL CODES. IT WOULD FOLLOW ALL CODES. THANK YOU. SO FOR, FROM OUR STAFF NOW, DO WE HAVE ANY CONCERN, LIKE, IS DO WE, DO WE SEE ANY SAFETY CONCERN IN NOT BURYING THEM, ESSENTIALLY? RIGHT. UH, AGAIN, UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNSEL, DAN GRIM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE. SO, UM, I, I SAW THIS ONLY A COUPLE DAYS AGO. MM-HMM. AND I'M, I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH IT. UM, I TRIED TO DO SOME HOMEWORK BASED ON, UM, SOME EMAILS. AND EMMA AND I TALKED AND, AND WE DISCUSSED THE SAME THING, THE TRENCH FROM HERE TO HERE, 'CAUSE THAT POSE THERE, BUT WE HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS GOES AWAY? WHO OWNS THAT? IS THERE A RIGHT OF WAY THERE? WE DIDN'T KNOW. UH, WE STARTED LOOKING INTO THAT. WHAT WAS THE COST TO [02:35:01] BRING IT, UM, ACROSS CRYSTAL FALLS? UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS 65,000 MM-HMM. , I THINK 65,000 TO TRENCH IT FROM THAT POLE TO THAT POLE MIGHT BE A BIT HIGH. UM, BUT I, AGAIN, THAT'S PEC AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY WOULD MAKE THAT DETERMINATION IF THE POLES ARE TOO LOW. AND I'M SURE THE ELECTRICAL ENGINEER INDICATES THAT. I SEE THERE'S ROADS THROUGH HERE, SO YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT'S DRIVING THROUGH THERE. DO YOU HAVE TRASH TRUCKS OR PICKUP TRUCKS OR ESPECIALLY ANYTHING THAT LIFTS ITS BED. YOU GOTTA BE AWARE IT'S, YOU DON'T PULL THE POLES DOWN. TRUST ME, MY PUBLIC WORKS TEAM DID THAT A COUPLE TIMES IN CORPUS AND IT'S NOT A PRETTY SITE. UM, AND, AND I, AND I DIDN'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THESE ARE OVERHEAD. I'M GUESSING THESE ARE OVERHEAD STRAIGHT TO THE BUILDING, THE ELECTRICAL LINES OVERHEAD. UM, PLEASE COME ON UP TO THE MICROPHONE. SORRY. SO IT HAS TO BE ON THE RECORD. SO I WOULD HAVE TO DO HOMEWORK IF THEY WERE BURIED OR, UM, ALL THE, ALL THE POWER LINES ON THE PROPERTY ARE OVERHEAD FROM THE RED BOX ALL THE WAY DOWN. THOSE ARE ALL OVERHEAD LINES. UM, UH, THE, FROM THE RED BOX JUST TO THE LEFT IS AN OVERHEAD LINE THAT GOES OVER THE ROAD. IT HOOKS TO A POWER POLE THAT THEN GOES INTO THE, UM, BUILDING THAT SITS ON THE PROPERTY THERE. THE OTHER POWER POLE RUNS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN IT RUNS ACROSS AND THE POWER HOOKS INTO THE MAIN HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY THERE. SO EVERYTHING'S OVERHEAD, UM, ON THE PROPERTY AS IT'S NOW. THANK YOU. SO THERE'S ANOTHER POLE IN THE BACK HERE, YOU'RE SAYING IS RIGHT? YES. THERE'S A, THERE'S A POLE ON THE RED AND THEN THERE'S A, A POLE. IF YOU GO UP A LITTLE BIT ABOVE THE LITTLE SQUARE, THERE'S A POLE THERE. IF YOU COME DOWN, THERE'S A POLE RIGHT THERE. YEAH. IF YOU COME DOWN, THERE'S UM, ANOTHER POLE IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER POLE THAT LEADS TO THE MAIN HOUSE. SO, SO AGAIN, UH, MULTIPLE POLES AND, AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST WAS TO BRING IN THREE PHASE AND IF YOU'RE BRINGING THREE PHASES IN, LET'S GO IN, YOU'RE GONNA SAY YOU'RE USING A LOT OF POWER. MM-HMM. . AND I HEARD HIM SAY H VS. AND NOW I'M WONDERING, WELL, HOW BIG IS YOUR BUILDING? AND WAS THAT THREE PHASE NEEDED? AND THEN WE, I GUESS EMILY AND I HAD THE QUESTION OF, WELL, WHAT IF THIS GOES AWAY OR IS, IS THERE A PERMANENT EASEMENT OR IS A PEC DOING THAT? AND SO THERE WAS A COUPLE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THEN IF YOU'RE BRINGING IT IN FROM THE MAIN LINE, AND THEN WE HAD A QUESTION, WELL, HOW COME YOU DON'T RUN, YOU KNOW, RUN FROM HERE BACK DOWN THIS WAY. AND SO I, THERE WAS A COUPLE QUESTIONS. UM, SO ALL OF THAT, ACCORDING TO CITY WARRANTS WOULD, WOULD REQUIRE US TO TRENCH UNDER THAT. UM, THE BLUE LINE AGAIN, CUTS THROUGH THE PROPERTY THAT WE DON'T OWN. IF WE WANTED TO DO THREE PHASE, ANOTHER POLE WOULD'VE HAD TO BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE WEIGHT OF THE THREE PHASE LINE VERSUS THE SINGLE PHASE LINE. THAT INDIVIDUAL OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WOULD NOT RETURN OUR CALLS TO GIVE US AN EASEMENT TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE LINEUP. AND I WOULD AGREE IF, IF THEY DECIDED TO DEVELOP THAT, SOMETHING'S GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE TO THE OVERHEAD LINES AT THAT TIME AS WELL. WE DID LOOK AT BRINGING THREE PHASE IN FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF CRYSTAL FALLS. AS I SAID BEFORE, IT WAS ABOUT A $300,000 JOB TO TRENCH UNDER CRYSTAL FALLS A HOPING THAT WE DIDN'T HIT ANY OTHER OBSTACLES THAT ARE BURIED UNDER CRYSTAL FALLS. UM, AND THEN COME DOWN TO, UH, THE BUILDING. SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN ROUND AND AROUND ON THIS. WE DID WANT TO GO THREE PHASE BECAUSE WE NEEDED FEWER AIR CONDITIONING UNITS, BUT TO GO UP TO SINGLE, TO STAY AT SINGLE PHASE, WE JUST HAVE TO ADD SOME MORE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS. OKAY. MR. SBO, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? MM, SORRY. SORRY. SO USUALLY THREE PHASE, YOU'RE USUALLY ABOVE, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME OVER FOUR 40, UM, IN THAT RANGE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR H VS WERE, THERE WAS SOMETHING OVER FOUR 40, NORMALLY TWO 20, YOU HAVE A SINGLE PHASE GOING TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT TWO 20. UM, 'CAUSE YOU CAN DO THAT ACROSS THE BUSBAR. I, I, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS TO LOOK AT THIS AND I HAVE TO DO HOMEWORK, BUT HE RATTLED OUT FOUR MORE POWER POLES THAT ARE ON THAT PROPERTY, PLUS THE, THE ONE HERE, ONE HERE, ONE THERE, AND TWO MORE. SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COMMON SENSE STARTS, I THINK MAYBE KICKING IN AND, AND THERE COULD BE FUTURE PROBLEMS WITH WHO OWNS THIS AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. AND THEN THAT GOES BACK TO THIS IS WHY SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THE STAFF IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO FILE THE ORDINANCES AND, AND WE DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF ALL THIS. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU TRIED TO LOOK INTO IT, BUT THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION WOULD BE TO TRY TO BRING IT ACROSS HERE TO PROVIDE YOUR WHOLE SITE, UH, POWER AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. AND THAT MAY HAPPEN. UM, BUT THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO TRY TO BALANCE OUT. UM, BUT AGAIN, FOUR MORE POLES AROUND THE BACK. SO, UM, I'M GONNA LEAVE IT AT THAT, BUT I THINK WE ANSWERED A FEW MORE QUESTIONS TO INCLUDE. HE'S CLAIMING $300,000 TO BORE ACROSS CRYSTAL FALLS TO BRINGING THE, UH, THREE PHASE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT [02:40:01] IT WOULD BE FOR A SINGLE PHASE TO COME ACROSS THAT DIRECTION, BUT IT MIGHT BE LESS THE BORING IS THE EXPENSIVE PART. OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE BORING UNDER A FREEWAY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE STEEL PIPE AND THEN THE CONDUITS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT SO YOU DON'T COLLAPSE THE ROAD AND OTHER THINGS. THIS LOOKS LIKE A WATER LINE. WELL, AND GIVEN THAT BOING ACROSS IS, IS NOT AN OPTION FOR YOU BECAUSE IT'S SUBSTANTIAL. IF YOU WERE TO BORE UNDERGROUND FROM THE CURRENT LINE TO YOUR BUILDING, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS IS DENIED, ALL OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE BLUE LINE STILL EXIST BECAUSE THAT BLUE LINE IS STILL WHAT'S GOING TO FEED IT EVEN IF IT'S UNDERGROUND. CORRECT. SO IT WON'T, IT WON'T CORRECT ANYTHING IN THIS SITUATION, UNFORTUNATELY. AND THE BUILDING IS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, CORRECT? YES. THANK YOU. YEAH, THIS SHOULD BE DONE END OF JULY. END OF JULY. OKAY. I'M REALLY TORN ON THIS ISSUE. I I, I WANNA BE FAIR TO EVERYONE AND, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE GOOD WORK THAT TEXAS HUMANE HEROES DOES. AND I KNOW THAT 60,000 IS, COULD BE USED FOR OTHER THINGS. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR NO KILL SHELTER. UH, I JUST ADOPTED MY PUPPY FROM YOU GUYS, SO, UM, BUT I REALIZED YOU GUYS DON'T WANNA SPEND THAT MONEY. YOU COULD. IT'S BETTER USED FOR BLANKETS, THE, THE FOOD THAT YOU HAVE TO BUY FOR EVERY, ALL THE DOGS AND KITTENS. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S CREATIVE WAYS FOR THE CITY TO HELP. 'CAUSE I THINK YOU MENTIONED SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS SIMILAR TO YOU DO GET CITY OR COUNTY FUNDING AND YOU GUYS DON'T. SO JUST A COMMENT. SO NO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY TRY TO DO AT THIS COUNCIL IS JUST BE VERY CONSISTENT IN OUR DECISIONS. 'CAUSE WE DON'T EVER WANT TO CONFUSE, UH, PEOPLE TRYING TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY OF LANDER. SO THAT'S MY MAIN GOAL HERE IS TO BE VERY CONSISTENT IN WHAT WE DO. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY AND I SEE ALL THESE OTHER ADDITIONAL POWER POLES, , IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE NOT BEING CONSISTENT WITH ALLOWING POWER POLES ON THAT PROPERTY. PROBABLY. 'CAUSE THOSE ARE MUCH OLDER AND THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN WHERE THEY WERE PUT IN. UM, SO THAT'S WHERE MY MAJOR DILEMMA IS BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT IS MORE CONSISTENT STICKING WITH THE CODE OR WHAT'S ON THE PROPERTY? AND THAT'S MY DILEMMA. ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, MY CONCERN IS WE DON'T WANT TO UNDERMINE, UM, THE STAFF AND THE ORDINANCE THAT WE CLEARLY VOTED ON. SOMEBODY DID, UM, A COUNCIL BEFORE AND APPROVED. UM, AND IF IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED, AND THIS IS NORMAL AND CUSTOMARY, UM, FOR OUR AREA, YEAH, I GET THAT THERE MIGHT BE LOTS OF POWER LINES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS AND THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN, BUT WE DO HAVE THE ORDINANCE IN PLACE AND, AND SHOULD TRY TO FOLLOW IT. UM, AND IF THERE'S AN EXCEPTION TO BE MADE, OF COURSE WE CAN CONSIDER THAT. BUT THAT'S MY CONCERN. I DON'T EVER WANNA UNDERMINE OUR STAFF OR THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE WHEN IT MAKES SENSE. UM, AND IT'S BEEN PUT IN PLACE AND MAKING SENSE FOR US. SO, UM, THAT'S THE CONCERN FOR ME ON THAT. I GUESS I HAVE THE SAME MIND. IT'S LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S SO MANY MOVING PARTS OF THIS THING THING, AND, AND IF THAT BLUE LINE GOES AWAY AT SOME WAY AND THE, AND THE POWER'S GOTTA COME IN FROM, FROM A DIFFERENT AREA, IT'S LIKE, IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE MONEY WASTED, YOU KNOW, IN THIS, IN THIS SITUATION TOO. SO THERE'S LIKE A, A COMMON SENSE SIDE OF ME SAYING WHY, WHO CARES ABOUT THE TWO POLES IF IT'S ON THEIR PROPERTY AND IT'S BEHIND AND IT'S THAT FAR AWAY FROM THE STREET. EXCEPT FOR THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE SMARTER THAN ME THAT DO THIS FOR A LIVING THAT ARE, SEEM CONCERNED WITH IT, UM, AS FAR AS, UH, BREAKING AWAY FROM THOSE THINGS. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT AS SIMPLE AS LIKE, IS IT REALLY IS, IS IT HURTING ANYBODY? ARE WE REALLY SETTING AN EXAMPLE? DO WE HAVE A, DO WE HAVE AN, DO WE HAVE AN ISSUE LIKE AS AS A STAFF, DO WE HAVE AN ISSUE REALLY BELIEVING THAT WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT HERE? UM, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN I I KNOW IT'S, I KNOW NOBODY REALLY WANTS TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION TOO BECAUSE IT PUTS EVERYBODY ON THE SPOT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND WE'RE KIND OF UNDER A, IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS THING AND IT'S ANYTHING OTHER THAN LET'S SAY TAKE THE TEXAS HUMANE HEROES OUT OF IT, AND LET'S SAY IT'S A, IT'S AN ORGANIZATION I WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH. IT'S LIKE THEY'RE PROMOTING BAD STUFF AND THEY'RE DOING IT IN THESE BUILDINGS AND IT'S LIKE, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT IT'S TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL, BUT MORALLY IT'S NOT OKAY. OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT? AND THEY WANNA DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. WOULDN'T I HAVE THE SAME VIEW OF IS IT HURTING ANYBODY TO DO THIS IN THIS SITUATION? THAT'S THE HARD PART FOR ME. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M ACTUALLY INCLINED FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S A RULE FOLLOWER AND LIKES TO KEEP IT PRETTY SIMPLE. I'M INCLINED TO SAY, WITH ALL THOSE MOVING PARTS AND ALL THIS STUFF, WHO IS IT REALLY HURTING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THAT'S THE HARD PART FOR ME RIGHT HERE. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S UNDERMINING STAFF AT ALL. THERE'S, THERE'S AN ARGUMENT. I AGREE. I RESPECT OUR STAFF AND I WANT, RIGHT. I DON'T WANNA MAKE IT HARDER. AND, AND STAFF'S ONLY ABILITY TO, TO DEAL WITH THIS WAS ONLY IF IT FELL UNDER. UM, IF THE EXCEPTION IS ABOUT APPLICABLE BUILDING CODES OR PUBLIC SAFETY REASONS, THERE'S NO SAFETY REASON. THERE'S NO REASON THAT'S AGAINST [02:45:01] BUILDING CODE. SO I THINK IT'S NOT UNDERMINING STAFF, IT'S JUST USING THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE WHERE WE ARE THE, THE ONES THAT CAN ACCOUNT FOR THAT. SO I GUESS I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT HADN'T WEIGHED IN HERE YET. AND, UM, I'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS ALL WEEK. UM, AND IF I UNDERSTOOD THE STATEMENT THAT WAS SAID EARLIER, I THINK, UM, THERE'S A INTERIM HERE THAT COULD COME INTO PLAY AND THAT IF WE DID VOTE TO ALLOW THE POWER TO RUN OVERHEAD FOR NOW, BUT WITH EVERYBODY BEING ON THE SAME PAGE, THAT SHOULD ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS BE BUILT, THAT AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, DON'T COME BACK. IT'S, IT HAS TO BE UNDERGROUND. AND UM, AND TO ME THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A REASONABLE SOLUTION BECAUSE WITH OTHER POWER POLES ON THE PROPERTY ALREADY, UM, AND THE FACT THAT THESE TWO WILL BE BEHIND AND, AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER USE OF EVERYBODY'S TIME. I SUSPECT IN SEVERAL YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, AND I'M PROBABLY NOT HERE ANYMORE. UM, AND THE ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS GET BUILT AND WHATEVER GETS DEVELOPED ON THAT FRONT LOT, WE WILL HAVE TO A CONVERSATION WITH OUR NEIGHBOR. WE TRY TO START THAT CONVERSATION. WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THEY DIDN'T RESPOND. SO THIS IS, THIS IS OUR OPTION NOW, BUT CERTAINLY DOWN THE ROAD, THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS WILL BE DOG KENNELS AT THE MOMENT. WE WEREN'T GOING TO AIR CONDITION THOSE I SUSPECT, UH, EVENTUALLY WE MAY NEED TO GIVEN THE HEAT AND TEXAS AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REVISIT POWER TO THE PROPERTY AT THAT TIME BECAUSE WE MAY NEED THE THREE PHASE. ABSOLUTELY. RIGHT. AND THAT WOULD GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO CLAIM FOR THAT IN YOUR SURE. IN YOUR YEAH, BUT IT, I MEAN, IF, IF RAVI WHO OWNED THE FRONT LOT WOULD'VE, YOU KNOW, TALKED TO, YOU KNOW, AND I SAID IN THE EMAILS, TALK TO US NOW BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA AFFECT YOU DOWN THE ROAD AS WELL. WE SHOULD BE WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS. NO RESPONSE. NO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE, UM, A AN INTERIM SOLUTION. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THEY'RE, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I'M, I GONNA ASK ROSS, IT'S A GOOD POINT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ROBIN. UM, AND JUST IN CASE I DID NOT MAKE MYSELF CALL, I WANT, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I, I DID SAY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THE EMAILS. I'M NOT DISCOURAGED ABOUT THE EMAILS. I'M, I APPRECIATE THAT PASSION. I APPRECIATE THE, THE EMAILS. IT WAS JUST SOME OF THEM, THE, THE NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT WAS AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S TROUBLING. SO PLEASE KNOW THAT SEND, WE'LL FIRST ANNOUNCE THE DECISION. OKAY. TELL ME. WE'D LIKE TO HEAR THE GOOD NEWS TOO. . THANK YOU. UM, ROBIN, IF LET LET'S HYPOTHETICALLY THAT THE LOT THAT IS NOT DEVELOPED, THEY BUILD THERE, THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE UNDERGROUND, CORRECT? ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NOT IN THEIR PROPERTY. UH, WOULD THAT LIGHT POLE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE UNDERGROUND SO THAT LIGHT, NOT LIGHT POLE, POWER POLE WOULD GO AWAY OR WOULD NOT BE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THE BLUE LINE? YES. WHERE THE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE PROPERTY WHERE YOU COULDN'T GET IN TOUCH WITH THE, THE OWNER, THEY'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO TO DEVELOP IT 'CAUSE OF THE WAY IT CUTS THE PROPERTY. OKAY. THAT WOULD MAKE IT DIFFICULT, RIGHT? LIKE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT UP A BUILDING AND PARKING IT, IT CROPS THE CORNER OF THE NOT HUMAN HEROES. THE BLUE. YES. THE THE BLUE, THE THE POWER LINE. YES. RIGHT. SO, AND, AND THIS COMES BACK TO, ARE WE SETTING A PRECEDENT BY IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO IT AND THEN SOMEBODY COMES TO BUILD NEXT DOOR, IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT. IT DOES, BUT NO MATTER WHAT, YOU GOTTA COME BACK TO THE POWER IS GONNA CUT THROUGH THAT PROPERTY NO MATTER WHAT. SO WHATEVER WE DECIDE TODAY, THE CONCERN ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THAT PROPERTY IS STILL THERE. MM-HMM. , I KIND OF LIKE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS WAS SAYING. CAN WE EXPLORE THAT A LITTLE MORE? I MEAN, MY GUESS AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL ME THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY, BUT I GUESS MY THOUGHT ON IT IS IF WE DID, UM, APPROVE THIS TONIGHT THAT THERE IS SOMETHING WRITTEN DOWN WHERE FUTURE COUNCILS OR CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS ALL ON RECORD. THAT ANY FUTURE BUILDINGS, ANY FUTURE OR ANYTHING, AND OF COURSE WITH THE LOT NEXT DOOR THAT'LL BE DEALT WITH, BUT UM, THAT THINGS WILL NEED TO START MOVING UNDERGROUND. I THINK THAT WOULD JUST BE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, RIGHT? UH, OUR CITY MANAGER HAS SOMETHING TO SAY. UM, MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE STAFF TO KIND OF HUDDLE. I THINK WE HEAR A LOT OF WHAT [02:50:01] YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO CHAT A LITTLE BIT TO SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A SUGGESTION FOR A MECHANISM. WOULD IT MAKE SENSE IF WE SEE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES? EITHER DO THAT NOW OR I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T WANNA MESS UP ANY TIMING OR SAY FIVE MINUTES. FIVE MINUTES. FIVE, FIVE MINUTE RECESS. OR I WAS GONNA SAY IF WE NEED TO POSTPONE AND TAKE NO ACTION AND I LIKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. FIVE, YEAH, FIVE MINUTES IS EVEN BETTER. LET'S, LET ME DO THIS. LET ME SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH. UH, I, I DO TRADITIONALLY WANT STAFF TO HAVE SOME TIME TO PROCESS AND THINK THINGS OUT BECAUSE ONCE WE GIVE YOU INFORMATION AND YOU ACT ON IT, IT'S LAW. AND SO I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE DO HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT. IT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE DONE IN FIVE MINUTES, BUT LET, LET US CHAT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. OKAY? WE WILL TAKE, ARE WE ABLE TO TAKE A RECESS OF UNDETERMINED TIME? DARA? OKAY. JUST SAY FIVE MINUTES. WE START LATE OFF TIME. ALL RIGHT. YES, WE DO. UH, ALL RIGHT THEN WE WILL DECLARE IT A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. , UH, THE TIME IS 9 24. ALL RIGHT, WE ARE BACK IN SESSION AT 9:39 PM UM, WE ARE STILL ON ITEM NUMBER 25. UM, UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S TOO MANY PARTS AND PIECES TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT, UM, A NEW ALTERNATIVE RIGHT NOW. UM, SO WE ARE BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED. UM, SO I AM GOING TO THROW OUT MY ANALYSIS ON THIS. THERE IS A BUILDING THAT IS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THERE IS NO ABILITY TO PAY TO BORE UNDERNEATH THE ROAD TO GET ACROSS CRYSTAL FALLS. SO WE ARE LEFT WITH THE ONE STANDING POWER POLE IN THE BACK. THE OPTIONS ARE THEN TO EITHER HAVE THE LINES RUNNING ABOVE, WHICH COSTS NOTHING OR HAVE THE LINES RUNNING BELOW THAT IS GONNA COST $65,000. EITHER WAY, WE ARE LEFT WITH THE ISSUE OF THE BLUE LINE AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT PIECE OF LAND DEVELOPS. AND SO I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE, BUT MY ADVICE TO YOU WOULD BE TO BEGIN THE FUNDRAISING FOR WHEN YOU BORE UNDERNEATH TO CONNECT WHEN THAT PROPERTY NEXT TO YOU DEVELOPS. AND WE CAN'T FORCE THAT, BUT I STRONGLY, STRONGLY ADVISE IT BECAUSE THAT POWER LINE IS GONNA GO AWAY SOMEDAY, MAY. IT'S NOT A VARIANCE, IT'S AN APPEAL TO ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION. IF YOU'LL PLEASE AMEND YOUR MOTION. THANK YOU. I WILL, I WILL APPROVE THE APPEAL TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION. , THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US STRAIGHT HERE, COUNSEL. I'LL SECOND IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 26, [26. Discuss and consider an Ordinance amending the City Council Rules of Procedure to establish guidelines for Council-issued proclamations and related matters.] DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE TO ESTABLISH GUIDELINES FOR COUNCIL ISSUED PROCLAMATIONS AND RELATED MATTERS. UM, OH, DID YOU WANT TO, UH, TALK ABOUT IT OR DO YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT IT? I DO NOT HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO. THERE'S, IT DOESN'T SAY ON HERE ANYBODY, SO I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL ON ME. ALL RIGHT, THANKS. OKAY. SO COUNSEL, WE HAVE, UM, WE ARE IN A VERY NICE POSITION OF BEING ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND GETTING LOTS AND LOTS OF REQUESTS FOR PROCLAMATIONS. AND, UM, I ALWAYS APPROVE ALL OF THEM. AND, UH, IT'S BECOME, AS YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PROCLAMATIONS AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR A WHILE ON HOW WE CAN KIND OF JUDICIOUSLY STILL HAVE PROCLAMATIONS HERE WITHOUT HAVING NIGHTS LIKE WE HAD LAST TIME WHEN THERE WAS LIKE EIGHT , RIGHT? AND, UM, AND WE'VE BATTED AROUND A COUPLE OF IDEAS. AND FINALLY WHAT WE CAME UP WITH, UM, I THOUGHT WORKED REALLY WELL IS EVERYBODY WILL STILL GET THE PROCLAMATION THAT THEY WANT. BUT TO COME HERE TO COUNCIL TIME, IT HAS TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CITY NEXUS. SO EITHER, UM, LIKE WE HAD LAST TIME, A LOT THAT CELEBRATED OUR OWN DEPARTMENTS, UM, OR IT COULD BE A PARTNER WITH THE CITY. SO WE CONSIDER TALKING WITH PAIGE AND DARA. WE CONSIDER L-I-S-D-A PARTNER WITH THE CITY BECAUSE WE WORK WITH THEM A LOT. WE CONSIDER SCOUTS A PARTNER WITH THE CITY BECAUSE THEY COME AND DO OUR FLAG CEREMONIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, FESTIVALS WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, CLOSING DOWN A ROAD OR WE, UM, WE GIVE AN IN KIND DONATION OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THOSE WOULD ALL BE A CITY NEXUS. UM, CAP COG WOULD BE A CITY NEXUS, BUT THEN IT FALLS INTO PART TWO, WHICH IS, THERE HAS TO BE SOMEBODY HERE TO RECEIVE THE PROCLAMATION. SO FOR CAP COG, I THINK REALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT WE EVER DO THAT HAS SOMEBODY RECEIVING IT IS IN SEPTEMBER. OH YEAH. THAT IS A CAP COG ONE. BUT WE CELEBRATE OUR DEPARTMENT WITH THAT. BUT IN SEPTEMBER WHEN WE HAVE, UM, THE EMERGENCY [02:55:01] PREPAREDNESS, WE ALWAYS BRING OUT OUR EMERGENCY COORDINATOR AND WE DO LIKE A PSA FOR THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT. SO THAT WOULD BE OUR, OUR NEXUS. UM, BUT THIS WOULD REALLY EASE THE BURDEN OFF OF ALL OF US, BUT ESPECIALLY, UM, ME AND DARA COORDINATING THESE A LOT . SO, UH, AND TALKING THROUGH THEM AND WE'VE SORT OF, UH, UNOFFICIALLY BEEN DOING THIS FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS. SO TONIGHT MY CLOSING COMMENTS, I'M GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT THREE THAT WE ISSUED THAT DID NOT COME IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT. UM, AND IT'S JUST KEPT THINGS ROLLING AND SHORTER. AND SO, UM, WHAT CAME UP WITH THAT IS PROCLAMATIONS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MAYOR'S DISCRETION, BUT WE DO HAVE IT MENTIONED IN OUR COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE. AND SO, UM, WE WANTED TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE TO CLEAN IT UP AND TO ALSO JUST SORT OF LET EVERYBODY KNOW HERE AND OUT THERE, THIS IS THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD. IT'S STILL FAIR TO EVERYBODY, BUT IT KEEPS US WORKING. JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, AS Y'ALL WERE GOING THROUGH THIS, 'CAUSE YOU SAID YOU HAD THREE THERE. THREE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, DID YOU, DID Y'ALL LOOK BACK OVER LIKE THE LAST 12 MONTHS, WHATEVER, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WOULD'VE ELIMINATED OR, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW THAT WOULD'VE BEEN ELIMINATED, UM, AND THEN WHICH ONES WOULD'VE STAYED, BUT I DON'T THINK WE WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE LIST. I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU TWO DID. NO, NO. OKAY. OKAY. UM, I KNOW I WENT THROUGH BEFORE WE HAD OUR MEETING, I WENT THROUGH AND, AND LOOKED AT A LOT OF THEM AND HAD THAT FRESH IN MY MIND. SO, AND FOR LIKE FESTIVALS OR WHATEVER IT IS TOO, IT'S LIKE, IT'S FOR CITY EVENTS. SO CITY, IF THERE'S A CITY NEXUS. SO, UM, SO DARA SAID, YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE A SPONSOR OF A FESTIVAL, OKAY, SO LIKE, LIKE THE CHAMBER, RIGHT? THE CHAMBER IS ALREADY A, UM, A PARTNER PARTNER, BUT LIKE THEY DO THE STREET FEST AND WE DO ROAD CLOSURES FOR IT. SURE. AND I THINK THAT'S AN IN KIND THAT WE DO FOR THEM, RIGHT? DARA? MM-HMM. . UM, I'M NOT SURE IT'S HOW THEY DO. WE'RE A PARTNER WITH THEM ON THAT AND WE HAVE STAFF THAT GO OUT AND PUT UP BARRICADES AND HELP WORK AND, AND DO THE TRASH AND DO THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. BUT, BUT IF ANYBODY HAD A FESTIVAL AND THEY SAID THEY WANT STAFF HELP, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THAT'S A STAFF OF, IF THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT, THEY'RE, IT'S NOT A PARTNERSHIP. IF IT'S AN INKIN WHERE THE CITY IS DOING IT, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP. WOULD I BE CORRECT ON THAT? YEAH. PAGE SAYS I'M CORRECT ON THAT. AND JUST CLARIFYING, THEY WOULD STILL GET A PROCLAMATION, IT JUST WOULDN'T BE PRESENTED HERE. CORRECT. EVERYBODY STILL GETS THEIR PROCLAMATION. THEY JUST GET IT IN THE MAIL OR AT CITY HALL. IT'S NOT DONE DURING MEETING TIME. SO BECAUSE IT'S NOT EASY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH ONES WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS VERY, IS WELL, IT'S EASY FOR PEOPLE TO FEEL LIKE MAYBE THEY'RE BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'VE NEVER TURNED ONE DOWN. RIGHT. UM, SO THIS KEEPS THAT POLICY. IT JUST CHANGES WHAT THE LEVEL IS TO COME IN FRONT OF COUNSEL TO RECEIVE IT. OKAY. I LIKE IT. THANK YOU. PAIGE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? OKAY, THIS IS ACTION. UH, IT IS IN MOTION TO APPROVE. I, I'LL SECOND MOTION. I SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. [27. Council Member Future Agenda Items  [Any deliberation of or decision about the subject of the inquiry shall be limited to a proposal to place the subject on the agenda for a subsequent meeting.]] ITEM 27, COUNCIL MEMBER, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ANY DELIBERATION OF OR DECISION ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF THE INQUIRY SHALL BE LIMITED TO A PROPOSAL TO PLACE THE SUBJECT ON THE AGENDA FOR A SUBSEQUENT MEETING. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? EXCELLENT. ITEM 28, [28. Council Member Closing Statements.] COUNCIL MEMBER CLOSING COMMENTS. PLACE ONE, WANTED TO SAY THANK THE CITY AND THE CHAMBER FOR A FABULOUS, UH, OUTRUN THE SUN EVENT AND ECLIPSE WATCH PARTY ON, UM, LAST, IT WAS LAST MONDAY THE EIGHTH. UH, THAT WAS A PRETTY, PRETTY UNIQUE EXPERIENCE. AND I HAVE TO SAY THIS OLD LADY, OUT OF 13 PEOPLE IN MY CATEGORY, I CAME IN SECOND AND THE I AND I JUST RUN, I'M NOT A RUNNER. THE FIRST PLACE WINNER IS A RUNNER, SO I FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THAT. UM, AND BRIDGET DID CORRECT ME. I, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE, SHE'S JUST TRYING TO MAKE ME FEEL BETTER, BUT I SAID WE ARE ALL SLOWING DOWN IN OUR, OUR AS WE AGE, BECAUSE THE, THE LADY THAT ONE HER TIME WAS A LITTLE BIT SLOWER THAN IT USUALLY IS, AND SO IS MINE. AND SHE SAYS IT'S NOT AGE, IT WAS THE ECLIPSE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE OR IS IT OKAY. SO I, I'LL, I GUESS I'LL FIND OUT ON JUNE 2ND WHEN I DO THE NEXT 5K AND SEE IF MY TIME IS ANY BETTER. UH, MY HIPS TELL ME THEY PROBABLY WON'T BE ANY FASTER. UH, BUT THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS ON MAY 2ND IS NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER. UH, WE, UM, UH, DO THAT PROCLAMATION IN THE MORNING AT, AND, AND, AND THAT WILL, THIS IS A, A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WE WILL SET THAT EXAMPLE, UM, OR PRECEDENT ON THE, UH, WHAT WE JUST VOTED ON. WE'LL HAVE THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER IN THE MORNING, BUT IT WILL NOT [03:00:01] BE PRESENTED HERE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S, THAT ONE ACTUALLY COULD GO EITHER WAY BECAUSE UH, IT'S ON CITY PROPERTY. THAT'S THE NEXUS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THAT I WAS NOT SURE ABOUT. SO REGARDLESS, 6:30 AM UH, AT THE, UH, LEANDER POLICE DEPARTMENT, SIX O'CLOCK IF YOU WANT TO SOCIALIZE AND THAT'S A, A GOOD TIME. IT'S SOMETHING I GET UP EARLY FOR. I ENJOY IT. SO HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. GOODNIGHT EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. PER TIM, THANK YOU TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR OUR SPRING CLEANUP, RESIDENTIAL CLEANUP AND UH, I HAD SO MUCH TO DO LAST SATURDAY. I COULDN'T GO. SO I GUESS I'M JUST GONNA HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE FALL CLEANUP. SO THANK Y'ALL. 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS REALLY STREAMLINED THAT. AND, UM, THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY GOOD LUCK TO ISAAC AGAIN AND WELCOME TO TODD. UM, YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF CATCHING UP TO DO, I THINK. AND UM, I THINK THERE'S CONGRATULATIONS IN ORDER FOR SOMEBODY ON THE CITY COUNCIL HERE, OUR MAYOR'S ENGAGED. THANK YOU, . CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HE IS THE FUTURE. MR. MADAM MAYOR, PLEASE. THREE. SO I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT AND ALSO THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION FOLKS, UH, WENT TO MASON DAYS LAST WEEKEND AS A GREAT EVENT. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR PUTTING THAT ON. AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, ISAAC, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU BROUGHT TO THIS CITY AND TODD LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. THANK YOU. PLEASE. SIX. GOODNIGHT Y'ALL PLEASE. FIVE, NOTHING TONIGHT EXCEPT FOR HAPPY TRANSITION TO YOU. HAPPY TRANSITION TO YOU, HAPPY TRANSITION TO US AND, AND LET'S MAKE IT A GOOD ONE. PLACE FOR GOODNIGHT. UH, AND THEN IT'S JUST WITH ME. SO TONIGHT, KEEPING WITH OUR TRADITION OF SHOPPING LOCAL, WE PICKED UP DINNER FROM LA TAPIA. WHEN YOU KEEP YOUR MONEY IN LEANDER, IT HELPS PAY FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO. AND SO WE'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE LIKE US AND EAT AT RESTAURANTS IN LEANDER. THERE ARE A LOT NOW. I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT THE OTHER DAY, SEVEN YEARS AGO, NOT SO MANY, BUT NOW WE'VE GOT PLENTY TO CHOOSE FROM ALL OVER TOWN. SO PLEASE, THIS WEEKEND WHEN YOU'RE OUT AND ABOUT, PICK LEANDER FIRST. UM, I ALSO WANT TO, UM, ONCE AGAIN SAY GOODBYE TO MR. TURNER AND HELLO TO MR. PARTON. AND BY THE WAY, WATCHING YOU TWO TOGETHER IS FANTASTIC. SO I THINK THERE'S STILL ROOM IF YOU WANNA STICK AROUND. UM, I VERY MUCH ENJOYED THE MEETING THIS MORNING WITH MY CITY MANAGERS. UM, IT WAS FUN WATCHING Y'ALL TALK ABOUT POLICY. I REALLY ENJOYED IT. UM, AND THEN, UH, WE DID HAVE THREE PROCLAMATIONS THAT WERE ISSUED, UH, ONE TO OPERATION 360 1 TO WEEK OF THE YOUNG CHILD, AND ONE FOR EDUCATION AND SHARING DAY. AND THAT IS IT FROM ME TONIGHT. SO [29. Convene into Executive Session pursuant to Section 551.074, to discuss the transition and assignments of the Interim City Manager and City Manager.] WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO ITEM NUMBER 29, CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.074 TO DISCUSS TRANSITION AND ASSIGNMENTS OF INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND CITY MANAGER. THE TIME IS 9:50 PM ALL RIGHT, WE ARE CONVENING BACK INTO OPEN SESSION AT 10:16 PM UH, TO DISCUSS, UH, PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 0.074 TO DISCUSS TRANSITION AND ASSIGNMENTS OF INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND CITY MANAGER, UH, MAYOR PER TIME. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO ACTION . WE'RE VERY PROFESSIONAL TONIGHT. UH, NO ACTION. THEREFORE WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 10:16 PM GOODNIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.