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GOOD EVENING.TODAY IS THURSDAY, JUNE 20TH, 2024,
[1. Open Meeting.]
AND THE TIME IS 6:01 PM AND THIS IS THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP OF LEANDRE CITY COUNCIL, CITY SECRETARY CRABTREE.[2. Roll Call.]
ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CATHERINE BATTALION.COUNCIL MEMBER MICHAEL HERRERA.
COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER NICOLE THOMPSON.
PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS CERNIK.
[3. Discussion regarding landscape ordinance requirements and artificial turf; Leander, Williamson and Travis Counties, Texas.]
HERE.WE'LL NOW MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSION REGARDING LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS AND ARTIFICIAL TURF LEANDER WILLIAMSON AND TRAVIS COUNTIES, TEXAS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, GRIFFIN.
UM, SO TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT, UM, ARTIFICIAL TURF AND OUR TURF GRASS REQUIREMENTS.
UM, AS MOST OF THE COUNCIL KNOWS, UM, WE HAVE, UH, A STATE STATUTE THAT SPEAKS TO VESTED RIGHTS.
SO, UM, ANYTIME WE MAKE A CHANGE TO THE, THE ORDINANCE WITH REGARDS TO LANDSCAPING, UM, THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT, UM, ARE GRANDFATHERED.
SO IF YOU STARTED YOUR CONCEPT PLAN FOR A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION IN 2013, THE ORDINANCE OF TODAY WON'T APPLY FOR LANDSCAPING.
SO, UM, ON THE SCREEN, UM, I HAVE A LIST OR A, A COUNT OF THE NUMBER OF SUBDIVISIONS, UM, AND THE DIFFERENT TIMEFRAMES THAT APPLY.
SO, UM, SINCE BETWEEN 78 AND 2014, UM, THERE WASN'T A TURF GRASS LIMIT OR REQUIREMENT.
UM, 2014 TO 2022, THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED ADDING SOME RESTRICTIONS.
AND THEN 2022, THE RESTRICTIONS GOT MORE INTENSE.
SO, UM, IN 2022, WE CHANGED OUR RESTRICTIONS TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU WERE LIMITED TO 50% TURF GRASS AND, UM, IF YOU'RE RESIDENTIAL, WE WOULD TAKE YOUR, UH, HOUSE AND YOUR DRIVEWAY.
50% OF WHAT WAS LEFT COULD BE TURF.
EVERYTHING ELSE HAD TO BE, UM, LIKE A, A MULCH, A CRUSHED GRANITE SHRUBS, LANDSCAPE BEDS.
UM, WE ALSO, UH, PROHIBITED TURF GRASS IN STRIPS OF LAND.
THERE WERE LESS THAN SIX FEET WIDE, SO THAT THE AREA BETWEEN THE BACK OF CURB AND SIDEWALK.
UM, OUR FIRST SUBDIVISION, WHERE YOU'LL SEE THIS IS WILD SPRINGS, AND IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
SO PROBABLY IN THE NEXT ONE TO TWO YEARS YOU'LL START SEEING THOSE HOMES.
UM, CRYSTAL SPRINGS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A SUBDIVISION THAT WAS, UM, HAD A CONCEPT PLAN AFTER 2014 WHERE THEY HAVE THE ONE THIRD, UH, LIMITATION ON TURF GRASS.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT SUBDIVISION, THEY HAVE A LOT OF, UM, ROCK ON THEIR SIDE LOT LINES IN BETWEEN THE HOUSES.
SO IT'S, UH, THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK OR THE TWO FOOT.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF, UM, OUR HISTORY OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TURF GRASSES.
SO, UM, SINCE THAT TIME IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, WE RECEIVED MORE REQUESTS FOR ARTIFICIAL TURF.
UM, SO STAFF HAS, UM, DONE SOME RESEARCH.
WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
UM, WE'VE LOOKED AT, UM, WEBSITES AND, UH, REPORTS, AND WE'VE COME UP WITH KIND OF A LIST OF THINGS THAT, UM, WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT.
UM, DARA'S HANDED OUT A, I GUESS IT'S A THREE PAGE, UM, DOCUMENT THAT KIND OF GOES INTO MORE DETAILS.
UM, BUT OUR, OUR MAIN CONCERNS ARE WHEN YOU ADD TURF, ARTIFICIAL TURF TO A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, UM, YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH INCREASED DRAINAGE.
SO WHEN WE DO A SUBDIVISION DESIGN, THEY LOOK AT THE PROPOSED IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT COMES WITH YOUR, YOUR HOMES.
SO THEY ANTICIPATE THE MAXIMUM BUILDING SETBACK, AND THEN THEY DETAIN BASED ON THAT.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, HOMES COME IN AND CHANGE, UH, THE GRASS THAT'S PERVIOUS INTO TURF, ASTROTURF, ARTIFICIAL TURF, WHATEVER WE CALL IT, UM, THAT DOES AFFECT THE, THE DRAINAGE ON THE PROPERTY.
THERE ARE ALSO CONCERNS WE FOUND ABOUT, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.
UM, WITH, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE THE, THE BUGS IN THE GROUND WHERE THE BIRDS ARE EATING THE BUGS.
UM, IT CAUSES, UH, AN INCREASED TEMPERATURE FROM TURF.
UM, THE OTHER THING WE'VE SEEN IS THE MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT.
SO, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE REPLACE IT A LITTLE MORE FREQUENTLY THAN THEY PROBABLY SHOULD.
LIKE IT GETS DIRTIER WORN, SO YOU'LL SEE MORE ROLLS OF TURF THAT GO INTO YOUR LANDFILL.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A CONCERN ABOUT THE INSTALLATION.
SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT PROFESSIONALLY INSTALLED, UM, YOU MISS OUT ON THE, THE ABILITY FOR IT TO HAVE SOME NESS, UM, PREVENTING THINGS LIKE MOLD, ALL OF THOSE FUN THINGS.
UM, WE ALSO SAW A LOT OF, UM, AREAS WHERE THEY ALLOW IT, BUT THEY REQUIRE, UM, THAT YOU WATER IT, SO YOU HAVE TO WASH IT, UM, BECAUSE IT GETS DIRTY.
THEY USE IT TO COOL IT, SO THEY'LL USE WATER TO COOL IT.
UM, WE DID DID FIND ONE ORDINANCE WHERE THEY REQUIRED SPRINKLER SYSTEMS WHEN YOU HAD ARTIFICIAL TURF BECAUSE OF THAT.
'CAUSE IT, IT GETS HOT AND, UM, DIRTY.
UM, THE OTHER CONCERN WAS POLLUTANTS AND CHEMICALS.
WE SAW IT A LOT, SAW A LOT OF RESEARCH ON, UM, WHAT COMES OFF OF THAT PLASTIC WHEN IT GETS HOT.
UM, AS WELL AS IF YOU PUT IT IN THE EASEMENT OR THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND WE HAVE A UTILITY PROVIDER COME IN, THERE'S GONNA TEAR UP THAT EDGE OF THE TURF AND THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO TO REPLACE IT.
UM, THERE WERE SOME BENEFITS THAT
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WE SAW.UM, THERE IS, UH, REDUCED WATERING WHEN YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO WATER IT TO KEEP IT CLEAN.
UM, IT'S ALSO LOWER MAINTENANCE, DROUGHT RESISTANT, AND, UM, IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS NICE.
UM, SO THE PURPOSE, OR I'M SORRY, WE LOOKED AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE AREA.
UM, ROUND ROCK AND PFLUGERVILLE DO NOT PERMIT IT.
GEORGETOWN DOES PERMIT IT, BUT THEY HAVE, UM, CRITERIA THAT IT'S CONSIDERED PERVIOUS.
SO THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ENGINEER, UM, EXPLAIN HOW IT'S PERVIOUS HAS TO BE PROFESSIONALLY INSTALLED.
I DID CONFIRM THEY HAVEN'T PERMITTED ONE YET, BUT THEY DO HAVE A PROCESS.
UM, AND IT'S BEEN IN PLACE SINCE I THINK 2022.
UM, AUSTIN WAS UNCLEAR AND UM, LAKEWAY DOES ALLOW IT WITH ADDITIONAL CRITERIA.
SO IN THE DOCUMENTS I PROVIDED Y'ALL AT THE END, I PROVIDED THE LAKEWAY ORDINANCE AND GEORGETOWN FOR REFERENCE.
AND WHAT WE WERE WANTING WITH THIS WORKSHOP IS TO KINDA GET FEEDBACK FROM THE, THE COUNCIL.
SO I HAVE A, A LIST OF, UM, QUESTIONS.
UM, AND FIRST KIND OF WANTING TO UNDERSTAND DOES COUNCIL WANT US TO PURSUE AN AVENUE TO ALLOW IT? UM, AND THEN AT WHAT, WHAT AMOUNTS, UM, WHAT LEVEL OF REQUIREMENTS.
SO THIS COMES UP, UM, I KNOW PEOPLE BRING THIS TO ME SEVERAL TIMES A YEAR THAT THEY SAY THEY WANT IT AND THAT THE NEWER ONES HAVE DRAINAGE AND SO THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT.
AND THEN THERE'S, THERE'S ALSO THE COMPARISON OF, YOU KNOW, WELL WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOING THIS OR DOING ZERO ESCAPING? SO I THINK JUST AS LONG AS WE HAVE SOMETHING DEFINITIVE, UM, AS A RESPONSE AND, AND IF THE RESPONSE IS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THAT, UM, THAT DOES DRAINAGE WELL ENOUGH, UM, THEN, THEN THAT'S A RESPONSE.
BUT JUST TO BE ABLE TO SAY LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, WE LOOKED AT ALL THESE, I SEE LOTS OF GOOD OPTIONS HERE, LIKE ONLY ALLOWING IT IN THE BACKYARD, YOU KNOW, OR, OR YOU KNOW, JUST DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS.
UM, I THINK JUST, JUST BEING ABLE TO THOUGHTFULLY SAY, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT, THIS IS WHY WE ARE WHERE WE'RE AT, UM, I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL.
AND I THINK HONESTLY THE SAME THING FOR, FOR ZEROSCAPING.
THERE IS, UM, I SEE IT ALL THE TIME WHERE PEOPLE THINK THAT WE DON'T ALLOW IT AND WE ALLOW IT.
WE WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU ZERO ESCAPE.
SO I GUESS MAYBE JUST GETTING IT DOWN OF LIKE WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO CLEARLY AND BASED ON WHY, GOT A QUESTION, DO WE LOOK AT OTHER STATES, WHAT THEY DO, OTHER STATES THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOWING THIS FOR A LOT LONGER.
THERE'S PLACES IN CALIFORNIA WHERE THEY DO THIS, PROBABLY ARIZONA, UH, AS WELL.
THEY'RE REALLY HOT AND DROUGHT RESISTANT.
SO DID WE LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO AND THE ISSUES THAT MAYBE, OR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THAT THEY'VE HAD FROM IT SINCE THEY'VE PROBABLY BEEN DOING THIS A LOT LONGER THAN WE HAVE.
SO I DIDN'T DIVE TOO DEEP INTO OTHER STATES, BUT I DID FIND, UM, THAT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS NOW ALLOWING CITIES TO PROHIBIT, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF BECAUSE OF THE, THE NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, UM, TO HUMANS AS WELL AS THE, THE EARTH.
UM, I DO KNOW THAT, UM, WE HAD HOSTED A REALLY GREAT PRESENTATION THAT, UM, GINA HANDLED, UM, WHERE THEY, THEY TALKED ABOUT, UM, PURPOSELY USING TURF, SO ONLY ALLOWING IN AREAS WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY USABLE, NOT JUST TO TO FILL SPACE, BUT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES LIKE THAT WHERE THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEING SELECTIVE WITH WHERE TURF GOES.
BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO OTHER CITIES AND STATES.
I DO KNOW, I THINK IT WAS EITHER EL PASO OR I THINK IT WAS EL PASO THAT, UM, HAD THE BIG PUSH TO REMOVE ALL THE TURF AND NOW THEY'RE DEALING WITH HEAT ISLANDS.
SO THERE'S A PUSH TO ADD TREES IN SOME FORM OF LANDSCAPING 'CAUSE IT'S GETTING REALLY HOT.
OUR, UH, WONDERFUL CITY MANAGER ACTUALLY HAS A HORROR STORY ABOUT ZERO SCAPING AND WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN IT'S ALL HEAT.
DID YOU WANNA SHARE THAT? SORRY, NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
THE ROADS, WHEN THERE'S NOT PROPER DRAINAGE, YO, BACK IN CALIFORNIA, UM, WE HAD, UH, ESTABLISHED IN ZEROSCAPE STANDARDS AND CRITERIA.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT IS, UM, A LOT OF IT WAS DECOMPOSED GRANITE AND OTHER COMPACTED UH, SOILS.
UM, WHEN YOU GET FLESH FLOODS, WHEN YOU GET OTHER KIND OF RAINS, UH, WHEN YOU IRRIGATE, EVEN FOR THE, THE TREES AND THE OTHER PLANTS THAT ARE THERE, YOU START TO GET RUNOFF THAT COMES INTO THE STREETS.
UM, SO YOU GET SOIL AND YOU GET DEBRIS THERE IN YOUR DRAINAGE WAYS.
UM, A LOT OF, UH, FOLKS WOULD GET FRUSTRATED WITH THEIR ZERO ESCAPE AND THEY WOULD WIND UP PULLING IT OUT AND PUTTING SOD DOWN AND PUT IRRIGATION SYSTEMS IN.
SO THEY'RE KIND OF COMING BACK AND, AND ALSO TRYING TO RETROFIT THEIR YARDS, UM, TO, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AND CREATE A MORE ATTRACTIVE, UH, CURB APPEAL FOR THEIR PROPERTIES AS WELL.
SO WE, WE SAW SOME OF THOSE THINGS HAPPENING.
UM, WELL, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IS, UM, JUST LIKE HOW YOU HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR FOUNDATION NEEDS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MOISTURE, SO DOES THE ROAD IN FRONT.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE WATER
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THAT LANDS ON IT, DO YOU WATER IT COMES INTO PLAY.SO THE ART, THE ARTIFICIAL TURF, SO ARE WE CONSIDERING IT IMPERVIOUS, IMPERVIOUS? ARE THERE TYPES THAT CAN BE PERVIOUS? AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO ZERO ESCAPING, DO WE CONSIDER THAT IMPERVIOUS, IMPERVIOUS? 'CAUSE THAT REALLY COMES DOWN TO THE, THE HEART OF IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH WATER'S GONNA COME OFF THESE PROPERTIES AND DO WE HAVE THE WASTE WATER IN PLACE AND THE STORM STRIP STUFF TO HANDLE IT? BECAUSE IF WE LET TOO MUCH WATER COME OFF, THEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
WE DON'T LET ENOUGH COME OFF, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
AND SO WHEN YOU DESIGN THE, THE WHOLE PLAN AND EVERYTHING, YOU HAVE A PLAN OF LIKE MAYBE 65% IS PERVIOUS OR IMPERVIOUS OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOUR RATIOS ARE WHEN YOU DESIGN THAT.
AND SO WHEN YOU START SKEWING IT ALL OVER THE PLACE, YOU END UP ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS HOW DO YOU CONSIDER ZERO ESCAPING? AND ARE THERE TYPES OF ZERO ESCAPING WHERE WE'D SAY, HEY, THAT IS BENEFICIAL, THAT IS GOOD, AND THERE'S OTHER ONES WHERE THEY'RE NOT SO BENEFICIAL.
AND THEN THE ARTIFICIAL TURF, ARE THERE THE SAME KIND OF PARAMETERS IN THERE TO KIND OF GET A MIX BECAUSE YOU HAVE GUIDELINES IN PLACE THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE DRIVING TO BASICALLY FOR, FOR THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE.
SO, SO WITH THE, UM, ARTIFICIAL TURF, UM, THE CONCERN IS MOST OF IT WOULD BE IMPERVIOUS UNLESS YOU HAD IT PROFESSIONALLY INSTALLED AND AN ENGINEER DID IT IN SUCH A WAY TO WHERE IT WAS PERVIOUS.
UM, WHEN WE DID, UH, ROBIN BLEDSOE PARK WITH THOSE ARTIFICIAL, UH, TURF UH, FIELDS, UM, THEY HAD TO DO A LOT OF WORK WITH DRAINAGE AND SHOWING HOW IT WOULD BE MAINTAINED, UM, AND HOW IT ACTUALLY FUNCTIONED AND DIDN'T CAUSE A DRAINAGE PROBLEM.
SO IF WE WERE TO ALLOW IT, UM, IT MIGHT BE CHALLENGING FOR A REGULAR CITIZEN TO, TO ACTUALLY INSTALL IT.
IT MIGHT BE COST PROHIBITIVE TO GET AN ENGINEER TO SIGN OFF ON IT AND SAY THAT IT IS PERVIOUS AND THEN MAINTAINING IT WOULD BE THE ISSUE.
UM, TODAY WE DO ALLOW FOR ZOO ESCAPING.
UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU PAVE YOUR WHOLE YARD.
UM, USUALLY WE SEE A PRETTY GOOD MIXTURE WHERE THEY HAVE MULCH BEDS, THEY USE RIVER ROCK CRUSH GRANITE.
I'M NOT AWARE OF AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
THEY DO HAVE PLANTS THAT ARE PART OF ZOO ESCAPING.
WE LIKE TO SEE TREES BECAUSE THEY, THEY HELP SHADE AND COOL, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN TYPES OF SHRUBS THAT ARE DROUGHT TOLERANT THAT YOU SEE IN THOSE TYPES OF LANDSCAPE.
YOU, YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT TOO, JUST WITH THE, THE COST.
SO IT'S ALREADY, SO WHETHER WE SAID YES, WHETHER WE SAID NO TO GO FORWARD, PEOPLE STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.
AND IF THE, WITH ANY KIND OF A ENGINEERING REQUIREMENT ON TOP OF THOSE THINGS, THAT'S GONNA EVEN FURTHER.
SO NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, I DON'T THINK THAT THE WHOLE CITY'S JUST GONNA GO START DOING TURF ANYWAYS.
UM, THAT'S GONNA BE, THAT'S MY MY ONE COMMENT THERE.
UM, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO HAVING AN OPTION FOR THOSE THINGS IF IT'S DONE RIGHT AND IT WORKS WITHIN OUR, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
UM, BUT THERE'S NO WAY THAT THE WHOLE CITY CAN CAN, UNLESS THEY CAME UP WITH A NEW PRODUCT, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE REALLY BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT
UH, IF, IF THEY CAME UP WITH A NEW PRODUCT, IT WASN'T SO EXPENSIVE.
BUT I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING EITHER.
SO, UM, I TYPICALLY GET THE REQUESTS OUT OF ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WELL, AND I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS TOO, BECAUSE IT DOES SOUND LIKE IT WOULD BE COST PROHIBITIVE FOR THAT SINGLE HOMEOWNER TO WANT TO DO THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULDN'T WANT TO LOWER THE STANDARDS I'D WANT IF SOMEBODY WAS THAT ADAMANT TO WANT TO DO IT, TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS BECAUSE IT, IT DOES GET WORN OUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE THINGS.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR IS MAKING SURE THAT OUR CITY IS VISUALLY APPEALING, UM, AND NEIGHBORHOODS ARE VISUALLY APPEALING AND ONCE WE APPROVE IT, WE CAN'T NECESSARILY FIGURE OUT IF SOMEBODY NEEDS TO REPLACE AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF.
SO I'D RATHER MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE, THE REGULATIONS TO BE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
IF SOMEBODY DID WANNA DO THAT ZERO ESCAPING, I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT, 'CAUSE THERE ARE VARIOUS TYPES YOU CAN DO IN THAT PLAN.
DOES THAT COME TO US OR IS WE JUST, THAT'S ALREADY PART OF OUR ORDINANCE SO ANYBODY CAN DO IT TODAY.
AND IT WOULD BE GOOD TO VISIT.
'CAUSE I KNOW I GET EMAILS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD OF ASKING ME TO GO TALK TO THE HOA TO ALLOW THE HOA TO DO IT AND I'M LIKE, BUT YOU CAN DO IT.
YOU, YOU GOTTA GO FIGURE IT OUT THE OTHER WAY.
SO, UM, AND MAYBE ONCE WE FIGURED THIS OUT THAT WE CAN DO SOME SORT OF EDUCATIONAL PIECE WITH THE RESIDENTS THROUGH BILL OR THROUGH, UM, TO GET THE WORD OUT ON WHAT CAN BE DONE AND WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
SO I HAD A ONE QUICK QUESTION.
SO, SO HOW MUCH ALLOWANCE FOR ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE DO YOU HAVE TYPICALLY BUILT INTO YOUR PLANS? SO LIKE, CAN YOU LAY OUT A WHOLE AREA? I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE LIKE A 5% VARIANCE OR 10%? WHAT'S THE, I KINDA LOOK AT THE ENGINEERS.
YEAH, IT'S JUST, I WAS JUST WONDERING BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE YOU BUILD THE WHOLE THING AND THEN 10 NEIGHBORS GO AND DO SOMETHING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE OUTTA WHACK OR, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW THE PERCENTAGE RIGHT OFF HAND, BUT WHEN
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YOU DO RUN OFF COEFFICIENTS, YOU SPECIFY THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.SO IS IT A QUARTER ACRE LOT WITH A SINGLE FAMILY HOME? IS IT A HALF ACRE LOT? AND THEN THEY USE A COEFFICIENT OF RUNOFF ON THAT.
BUT HOW THAT TRANSLATE TO PERCENTAGE OF IMPERVIOUS, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, BUT THEY TYPICALLY ARE SOMEWHAT CONSERVATIVE IN THE PERCENTAGES.
BUT, UM, I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
YEAH, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE IN, IN OUR HOUSE IN PENNSYLVANIA, WE HAD BREAKERS OF LAND AND WE WANTED TO ADD ONE LITTLE PARKING SPOT ONTO OUR DRIVEWAY.
AND SO THEY SAID, NOW YOU, YOU'RE GONNA BLOW UP YOUR IMPERVIOUS PERVIOUS ALLOWANCE OR WHATEVER.
AND SO WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING IS PUTTING GRAVEL THERE AND THAT WAS CONSIDERED FINE
THEY LET THAT HAPPEN AND EVERYTHING.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE THEY, AND THEY, WE HAD FOUR ACRES OF LAND AND WE HAD, YOU KNOW, A 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ON IT.
AND IT'S LIKE THAT WAS, YOU COULDN'T COVER ANY MORE LAND.
WELL CITY OF AUSTIN DOES HAVE IMPERVIOUS COVER REQUIREMENTS PER LOT.
AND SO THAT'S SORT OF HOW THEY, BECAUSE THEY'VE KIND, THEY'RE KIND OF MUTE TO IT, BUT THEY HAVE AN IMPERVIOUS, THEY CONSIDER IT IMPERVIOUS COVER, UH, YOU KNOW, ARTIFICIAL TURPIN, YOU ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER YOU COULD HAVE AN ENGINEER COME AND ENGINEER IT, BUT IF YOU DON'T MAINTAIN IT, IF YOU DON'T PRESSURE WASH IT OUT, IT GETS CLOGGED AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S IMPERVIOUS AGAIN.
SO YOU'RE, IT'S MORE A LONG TERM.
UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA LOOK AT THE LONG TERM HOW THEY'RE GONNA MAINTAIN IT, IF THEY'RE GONNA KEEP IT MAINTAINED, UM, IN ORDER TO CONSIDER IT.
UH, AND, AND THE SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW ARE CONVERTING SOME OF THEIR TURF TO IMPERVIOUS, LIKE TO, UH, TO ARTIFICIAL TURF AND THEY ARE CONSIDERING IT IMPERVIOUS.
SO, UH, MS. GRIFFIN, ARE THESE THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD FOR US? UM, YES.
I HAVE TWO SLIDES OF OF QUESTIONS.
YOU WANT US TO GO THROUGH IF, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO, IT'S UP TO Y'ALL.
SO WHERE WOULD THE ARTIFICIAL TURF BE ALLOWED? UM, I LIKE THE SUGGESTIONS, IF THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH.
I THINK IN AN IDEAL WORLD, Y'ALL COME BACK TO US AND SAY, THESE ARE THE USE CASES WHERE WE SEE IT'S FEASIBLE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE BACKYARD.
WE FEEL LIKE IT WORKS AS LONG AS IT HAS THIS FOR DRAINAGE OR WHATEVER IT'S, OR YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THIS SAFEGUARD, UM, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING FOR THE FRONT YARD, YOU KNOW, THAT WORKS.
SO I THINK WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY THE EXPERTS ON WHERE IT SHOULD BE ALLOWED.
I THINK WE ARE INTERESTED IN JUST ALLOWING OPTIONS.
AM I ANYBODY DISAGREE? YEAH, NO, I JUST, I, WE, WE CAN THROW SOMETHING OUT LIKE IN A COMMERCIAL AREA WHERE LIKE, UH, I, I THINK OF LIKE A COSTCO PARKING LOT.
ALL OF A SUDDEN OVERNIGHT ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYTHING'S GREEN AND YOU LOOK LIKE, OH MY GOSH, THEY, THEY DID THIS INSTEAD.
THOSE ISLANDS ARE PRETTY GOOD.
HAVE YOU? YES, I'VE ACTUALLY TOUCHED THEM.
SO WOULD AN AREA LIKE THAT, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ON HERE, BUT WOULD WE CONSIDER AN AREA LIKE THAT FOR A COMMERCIAL? YEAH, FOR A COMMERCIAL SPOT TO MAKE SURE IT'S APPEALING AS LONG AS IT DIDN'T CAUSE A PROBLEM FOR US ON, UH, WITH OUR DRAINAGE, I THINK THE COMMERCIAL APPLICATION IS MUCH EASIER 'CAUSE THEY'RE DOING A SITE DEVELOPMENT WITH AN ENGINEER WHO'S DOING A POND.
LIKE THEY'RE ALREADY, THEY COULD FIGURE THAT PAYING FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS.
AND THAT WOULD BE SUCH SMALL STRIPS TOO.
I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER TO DEAL WITH.
SO WE'RE MOSTLY ADDRESSING IS THAT RESIDENTIAL, LIKE HOME, SOMEBODY ALREADY OWNS THEIR HOME.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WITH THE BUILDER.
I CANNOT SEE A BUILDER DOING THIS RIGHT.
AND SO, UM, THIS WOULD BE MORE, MORE SO INDIVIDUAL BASIS ONLY.
WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR ONLY ALLOW WELL, THE, THE RECOMMENDATION FOR JUST THE BACKYARD, THAT SEEMS OPPOSITE OF WHAT I WOULD EXPECT A HOMEOWNER WOULD WANT TO DO.
SO, UM, I THINK, UH, WHEN, WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT, UH, IT'S NOT A NUISANCE TO YOUR NEIGHBORS.
IT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.
YOU'RE STAYING OUT OF THE MOST USED EASEMENTS.
'CAUSE USUALLY IN YOUR FRONT YARD YOU HAVE A 10 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR UTILITY PROVIDERS AND IT JUST SEEMED LIKE THE EASIEST PLACE TO DO IT.
AND YET WHAT WE GET LETTERS ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, IF AN HOA WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS WEEK, UM, SENDING OUT LETTERS FOR BROWN SPOTS IN THE FRONT YARD, THEY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE BACKYARD.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THE, THE REASON TO HAVE IT IN THE BACKYARD.
THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT ACTUALLY HAVE THESE HAVE IT IN THE FRONT YARD.
UH, UNLESS IT IS A SMALL AREA IN THE BACKYARD THAT IS USED FOR, YOU KNOW, BOCCE BALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST BECAUSE, OR IT'S A VERY ROCKY AREA THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO TURN INTO SOMETHING.
SO I'M, I'M NOT SURE THAT ONLY IN THE BACKYARD WOULD, I'M NOT SURE THAT WOULD SOLVE ANYTHING.
WE WERE JUST THINKING AESTHETICS.
WELL, AND I'M THINKING AESTHETICS THAT I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT DO THAT
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IN AN HOA WHERE IF IT'S A, A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, THAT HAS AN HOA, THEY'RE DOING IT IN THE FRONT YARD TO AVOID, YOU KNOW, THAT IT, IT LOOKING BAD.THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT JUST FOR FUN.
SO I, I'M NOT SURE I WOULD AGREE WITH ONLY ALLOWING IT IN THE BACKYARD FOR THAT REASON.
AND YET IT, THE ONES THAT ARE NOT IN A HOA, THAT'S WHERE WE NEED THE, UM, THE GUIDELINES I THINK FOR WHO, WHO'S GOING TO MANAGE THAT OR, OR POLICE THAT I'LL SAY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN HOA.
WELL AND TO THAT POINT THOUGH, WHERE, YOU KNOW, AND SOMETHING EMILY JUST SAID, IT'S LIKE, WELL IF YOU DON'T MAINTAIN IT, THEN IT BECOMES AN IMPERVIOUS COVER, A FRONT YARD, A BACKYARD, THEN YOU END UP WITH A LOT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT I DON'T THINK WE WANT EITHER.
AND I'LL WORRY ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE PIECE OF IT BECAUSE IT'S REAL EASY TO GO MOW YOUR YARD OR PAY SOMEBODY TO MOW YOUR YARD.
BUT WHEN THERE'S AN EASEMENT CUT THROUGH, LIKE AT AND T SAID THEY CUT IN THE 10 FOOT ZONE, IT'S PROBABLY MORE LIKE THROUGH THE CENTER OF MY YARD, YOU KNOW, UM, THIS A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.
AND SO YOU, THAT'S THE PART THAT WORRIES ME OR PEOPLE NOT MAINTAINING IT.
WELL THAT COULD BE LIMITED TO NOT ALLOWED IN A PUBLIC EASEMENT.
I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT THE SITE SURVEY, THE P OE IS ON THERE AND YOU CAN'T PUT THE TURF IN A P OE.
YOU MAKE IT SOUND REALLY EASY.
I WOULD SAY PEOPLE STRUGGLE WITH THAT EASEMENT LOCATION A LOT.
WE, WE HAD A, AN AN ISSUE WITH THAT RECENTLY, DIDN'T WE? WHAT ARE OTHER THOUGHTS? DO YOU WANT THE NEXT SLIDE OF QUESTIONS? YES, PLEASE.
I THINK THE PROFESSIONAL INSTALLATION IS A GOOD, GOOD ONE.
IT IS COST PROHIBITIVE, BUT IT ALSO ENSURES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING IT DONE CORRECTLY.
IT SEEMS LIKE GEORGETOWN AND PROBABLY EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T SAY EXACTLY WHAT LAKEWAY WERE, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY ON THEIR LIST OF YES, BUT MM-HMM.
SO THEN THAT COMES TO HOW DO WE KNOW THAT IF WE'RE ALLOWING IT, DO THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT FOR A PERMIT IF WE'RE DOING IT THIS WAY? YES.
I MEAN PEOPLE COULD TECHNICALLY GO DO IT NOW AND NOT TALK TO ANYBODY ABOUT IT AND JUST GO PUT IT IN THEIR YARD.
THAT'S THE CURRENT SITUATION, RIGHT? YES.
AND WHAT DOES THAT COST? IT DOESN'T EXIST.
SO WE COME UP WITH A FEE, BUT, BUT SOMETHING COMPARABLE, UM, LIKE AN IRRIGATION PERMIT IS $70 7 70, 77 0.
IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING REASONABLE.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO LIKE, MAKE MONEY OFF IT, BUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT, THAT IT'S A APPROACHABLE PROCESS AND THAT SOMEBODY FOLLOWS WITH A HIGH FEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE'RE MORE LIKELY TO NOT SEE SOMEBODY COME IN THAN A REASONABLE FEE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY'S DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.
SO THE WAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP EVERY SINGLE TIME TO ME HAS BEEN, UM, HAS BEEN WHEN WE'RE HAVING WATER ISSUES.
AND IT'S ALWAYS PEOPLE SAYING, I WANNA DO MY PART AND PUT THIS IN SO THAT I DON'T HAVE TO TRY AND KEEP ANYTHING GREEN OR IRRIGATE ANYTHING.
UM, AND SO I THINK, UM, I THINK HAVING, HAVING A WAY FOR THEM TO DO THAT.
LOOKING AT NUMBER FOUR, WHAT IS THE PRIORITY OF THIS ORDINANCE? I WOULDN'T SAY LIKE, THIS HAS TO BE DONE TOMORROW, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO STRUGGLE WITH WATER NEXT SUMMER.
WE'RE STRUGGLE WITH WATER THIS SUMMER.
WE'RE GONNA STRUGGLE MORE NEXT SUMMER.
LIKE, SO JUST KNOWING THAT THAT'S COMING UP AND, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A ROUND OF PEOPLE AGAIN THAT WANNA DO THIS BECAUSE OF THE WATERING SITUATION.
I THINK, UM, IT'S NOT THE HIGHEST PRIORITY, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A LOW PRIORITY EITHER.
I THINK WHAT SHE MEANT BY THAT WAS THE PRIORITY.
LIKE WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? IS THAT WHAT, WHAT THAT FORM NUMBER WAS SAYING.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, SEVERAL ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, UM, WE SEE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER 'CAUSE THEY'RE HELPING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
SO THIS IS AN ORDER IN WHICH TO TACKLE THIS, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
I WOULD SAY DON'T BACK BURNER IT FOR 18 MONTHS, BUT ALSO YOU'VE GOT MORE IMPORTANT STUFF TO, TO WORK ON RIGHT NOW.
WOULD ADDING THE PERMIT PROCESS CREATE MORE CHALLENGES FOR Y'ALL'S DEPARTMENT OR IS THIS JUST AS EASY TO WORK IN? UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE FAIRLY EASY TO WORK IN.
BUT IT'S ALSO GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF A LEARNING CURVE.
LEARNING MORE ABOUT, UM, ARTIFICIAL TURF.
WHEN YOU READ SOME OF, UM, LAKEWAY AND I THINK ADDISON WAS ANOTHER CITY WE LOOKED AT, THEY HAVE LIKE A COLOR MIX IN THE, UM, ACTUAL TURF.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO AVOID THAT LEVEL.
UM, IT'S JUST TO AVOID HAVING PURE GREEN SO IT LOOKS A LITTLE MORE NATURAL.
BUT THERE ARE SOME RULES THAT WERE KIND OF EXTREME THAT WOULD ADD A LOT OF TIME, I THINK.
AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANYTHING EXTREME.
WE JUST NEED A PATH FORWARD FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT AND JUST THE GUIDELINES FOR IT.
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SO WHEN YOU HAVE AN HOA AND THEY'RE MORE RESTRICTIVE AND SO WE HAVE A NICE ORDINANCE AND, AND THINGS AND THEN THE HOA SAYS, NAH, YOU CAN'T DO THAT HERE.AND UH, HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT ALL PLAY OUT AND HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO, UM, TYPICALLY AN HOA REGULATION WOULD OVERRIDE THE CITY IF IT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE.
BUT THERE IS A STATE STATUTE ABOUT, I THINK IT'S SPECIFIC TO TURF GRASS.
BUT I THINK THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REQUIRE A WATERING SCHEDULE AND I THINK THEY AREN'T ALLOWED TO REQUIRE YOU DO ALL TURF.
BUT I CAN PULL THAT AND SEND IT OUT TO YOU GUYS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPACTING PRETTY MUCH ALL THE NEW BUILD RIGHT.
WHICH WE'RE BASICALLY IS IS THERE ANY NEW BUILD THAT'S NOT IN A HOA AT THIS POINT? NOT REALLY.
AND THIS, THIS CHANGE PROBABLY WOULD BE MORE OF AN OPTION PEOPLE WOULD SELECT.
UM, THE, THE POINT IN THE BEGINNING PART OF THE PRESENTATION WAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE SEE HOMES WITH SO MUCH GRASS AND HOW IT'S SLOWLY GONNA GET REDUCED.
AND SO I KIND OF WONDER LIKE WHEN A, ESPECIALLY ON THE DETERMINATION PART WHERE, WHERE THEY CAN PUT IT SINCE MOST OF THE DECISIONS ARE MADE, MADE BY THE HOA, MAYBE NOT TO DO IT AND JUST REALLY HANG YOUR HAT ON MORE OF THE IMPERVIOUS, PIOUS KIND OF ARGUMENT AND THEN GIVE 'EM GUIDELINES WITHIN THE WORK IN.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED FROM US? UM, I HAVE WHAT I NEED TO DO SOME REALLY GREAT RESEARCH AND COME WITH SOME IDEAS.
AND, UM, I WAS GONNA SAY WE CAN MAYBE COME BACK WITH AN UPDATE BEFORE WE START SOME DRAFTING AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PAGE.
SO I FEEL LIKE, UM, I'M GETTING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT RESPONSES, BUT MAYBE COME WITH MIDDLE GROUND.
LET'S CLARIFY THAT THEN LET'S, LIKE, LET'S THAT WAY, THAT THAT WAY WE KNOW, UM, SO THAT WAY THERE'S YEAH.
YOU DON'T WASTE ANY TIME ON ANYTHING ELSE, RIGHT? SURE.
UM, SO I THINK WE'RE ALL AT, WE SHOULD FIND A WAY TO ALLOW SOME, I THINK WE SHOULD FIND, BUT FOR ME, THE BIGGEST THING WITH THIS IS THE WATER REDUCTION.
AND SO IF YOU HAVE TO STILL WATER IT, YOU HAVE TO STILL DO ALL THINGS THINGS.
THEN FOR ME, MAYBE IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE ON WHY WE'RE NOT DOING THAT, BUT JUNE ZERO ESCAPE, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA DO TURF.
AND, BUT, BUT I I, I'M STILL NOT COMPLETELY CLEAR ON WHAT DOES HAVE TO BE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS AS IMPERVIOUS COVER.
BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE KEY FOR ME.
OTHERWISE, I SEE NO POINT IN ALLOWING IT IF WE'RE NOT, IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION OF WATER.
WELL, AND MAYBE IT STILL NEEDS WATERING, BUT MAYBE IT NEEDS WATERING LESS.
LIKE THERE'S, I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE LOTS OF QUESTION MARKS ABOUT INFORMATION WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW.
I HIGHLY, I I HIGHLY DOUBT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WATER IT AS MUCH AS YOU'D HAVE TO RIGHT.
SO NO MATTER WHAT, THERE HAS TO BE SOME TYPE OF REDUCTION.
BUT DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.
I I'M IN THE, I'M IN THE CAMP OF, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY.
THEY SHOULD PROBABLY BE ALLOWED TO DO WHAT THEY, THEY ALLOWED TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH IT TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S NOT CAUSING AN ISSUE.
AND SO AS LONG AS SOMETHING IS NOT CAUSING AN ISSUE AND WE'RE MAKING SURE SOMETHING'S PROFESSIONALLY INSTALLED, AND IF THIS IS A WAY TO HELP, RATHER THAN PEOPLE JUST GOING OFF ON THEIR OWN AND GRABBING SHOVELS AND TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
UM, THEN I, THEN, THEN I'M FINE WITH IT, WHETHER IT'S IN THE FRONT OR THE BACK AND THE TURF IS MUCH DIFFERENT.
I, I COULD THINK OF ONE, I GO ON A WALK AND I SEE, AND I SEE SOME TURF THAT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD AT ALL.
AND IT'S THE OLD SCHOOL TURF THAT WE WOULD USE AT GRANDMA AND GRANDPA'S HOUSE THAT WAS ROLLED OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, ON LIKE, KIND OF BASED ON CONCRETE AND, UH, AND IT DOESN'T LOOK GREAT.
AND SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, I I I BELIEVE THAT'S PROBABLY, IT'S FOR ME THAT'S STILL AN HOA ISSUE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY EVEN, THAT'S NOT REALLY AN US ISSUE.
SO I THINK WE JUST NEED MORE INFORMATION.
WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? UM, I THINK THIS IS ENOUGH SO WE CAN, UM, DO SOME MORE RESEARCH.
MAYBE COME BACK WITH A MORE REFINED IDEA.
IF YOU CREATE THAT PERMIT PROCESS, UM, AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT PROFESSIONALLY INSTALLED, THAT ALSO MEANS THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE INSPECTORS THAT GO OUT TO WHATEVER SCHEDULE WE COME UP WITH TO INSPECT IT AND MAKE SURE IT'S STILL MAINTAINED THE WAY IT SHOULD BE IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DO.
I WOULD THINK, UM, WE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE SOMEONE INSPECT IT WHEN IT GETS INSTALLED.
UM, BUT IF WE WANTED TO WORK IN SOMETHING WHERE THERE'S LIKE A FOLLOW UP INSPECTION MM-HMM.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO GET IN THAT TYPE OF DEEP, AND IT'S, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO IT, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO GET THAT FAR DOWN.
LIKE, UM, WE HAVE SEPTIC SYSTEMS OR WE HAVE BACKFLOW, YOU KNOW, VALVES AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT GET THAT THEY DIRECTLY AFFECT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO MANDATORY YOU HAVE TO GET THIS THING LOOKED AT.
IF WE THINK THERE'S THAT KIND OF ISSUE WITH THE POSSIBLE RUNOFF FROM ONE HOUSE OF DOING THAT, THEN YES, IT SHOULD BE DONE.
IT'S COULD BE A CODE ENFORCEMENT, LIKE IF THE NEIGHBOR COMPLAINS THAT IT'S CAUSING THE RUNOFF, MAYBE THAT YEAH.
LIKE SOMETHING TRIVIAL, THEN IT KIND OF BECOMES A CIVIL MATTER BETWEEN THE TWO RESIDENTS IF YOU CAUSE RUNOFF ON SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.
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OF IN A WEIRD SPOT.I THINK THAT WOULD STILL COME BACK TO THE HO A'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS MAINTAINED AND NOT, NOT THE CITY UNLESS IT IS AN AREA WHERE IT'S NOT AN HOA.
THAT'S ALL, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT.
COUNSEL, ANYTHING ELSE? MAYOR, CAN I ASK ONE OTHER KIND OF CLARIFYING QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY.
SO THE, THE ONE OF THE DECISION POINTS WAS WITH REGARD TO COMPARATIVE WATER CONSUMPTION.
UM, SOME OF THE CITIES WE LOOKED AT HAD PROHIBITIONS ABOUT ACTUALLY SETTING SPRINKLER HEADS AND, AND SETTING UP IRRIGATION FOR THESE SYSTEMS. UM, THERE'S OTHER SYSTEMS THAT ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED NOW THAT REQUIRE YOU TO WATER IT, IT GOES INTO THE, THE BASE AND THEN IT RELEASES ALMOST KINDA LIKE LAWNS WOULD AS THEY RELEASE WATER.
AND IT KINDA HELPS COOL THINGS DOWN AS IT EVAPORATES.
UM, ON THE EQUIVALENCY, ARE YOU LOOKING AT AT EQUAL OR LESS WATER CONSUMPTION OR WOULD YOU WANT US TO REALLY, OR DO YOU WANT TO KIND OF LOOK AT TARGETS IN TERMS OF X PERCENT LOWER THAN NORMAL LANDSCAPING IN, IN SOD MAINTENANCE? I THINK THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO LOOK AT IT.
I THINK THE GOAL OF ANYBODY PUTTING IT IN IS TO REDUCE WATER.
AND IT COULD BE THAT THEY'RE THINKING, THEY JUST DON'T WATER IT AT ALL.
UM, SO YEAH, MAYBE SAYING THAT IT HAS TO CREATE, UH, A REDUCTION, UM, EQUAL OR THEN AGAIN IF YOU HAVE A BACK EQUAL OR LESS, I THINK EQUAL, YOU SAID EQUAL OR LESS OR A CERTAIN AMOUNT, LIKE A YEAH.
BUT THEN AGAIN, HOW DO THEY DEMONSTRATE THAT? LIKE I'M THINKING OF SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, IN THE BEGINNING EARLY YEARS, THEY'VE GOT BACKYARDS WHERE IT'S, IT'S KIND OF DIRT AND WEEDS AND THEY MIGHT WANT GRASS, SO THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY WATERING IT, BUT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THIS INSTEAD OF DOING GRASS.
HOW DO THEY DEMONSTRATE THE REDUCTION IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE GRASS TO START? I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO BUILD IN CERTAIN ASSUMPTIONS INTO OUR MODELS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA PLANT COMMON BERMUDA, YOU NEED TO WATER IT TWO TIMES A WEEK, YOU KNOW, AT CERTAIN LEVELS.
UM, SO WE CAN KIND OF DEVELOP SOME CONSISTENCIES UNDER AN ASSUMPTION OF YOU'VE PLANTED A CERTAIN LEVEL.
SO THE PRESUMPTION WOULD BE IF I'M GONNA COME IN WITH A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF ARTIFICIAL, YOU KNOW, COMPARATIVELY WE LOOK AT THAT AS, AS WHAT WOULD THAT COMPARE IF YOU WERE TO PLANT TURF? BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S PART OF OUR PERMITTING PROCESS.
I THINK IT'S MORE OF THE EVALUATIVE PROCESS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF WHAT SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGIES TO EVALUATE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, FOR, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT ASTROTURF, YOU KNOW, ON CONCRETE IT'S GONNA BE WAY HOT, FOR EXAMPLE, TO ONE EXTREME.
THE OTHERS, THERE'S NEWER TECHNOLOGIES, THERE'S NEWER PRODUCTS COMING ONLINE THAT ARE, HAVE UV PROTECTANTS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT PIECES THAT THEY'RE PUTTING INTO THAT PRODUCT NOW THAT BEHAVE AND OPERATE DIFFERENTLY.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BEHAVE COOLER.
THERE'S OTHER INSTALLATION METHODOLOGIES AND TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE COMING ON BOARD.
SO IT'S REALLY MORE LOOKING AT, DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN TO ENTER INTO SOME SORT OF SPECIFICITY WITH REGARD TO THE TYPE AND DESIGN OF ARTIFICIAL TURFS THAT YOU MIGHT ALLOW? I THINK WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT, YES.
AND SO WE CAN LOOK AT PRODUCTS THAT WE CAN TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME WAY TO COMPARATIVELY DETERMINE WHAT THE WATER CONSUMPTION FOR THAT PATCH OF, OF ARTIFICIAL WOULD BE AS COMPARED TO COMMON BERMUDA OR SOME OTHER MORE, UH, APPROPRIATE PLANT MATERIALS THAT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING FOR THIS AREA.
ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL? ALL RIGHT, MS. GRIFFIN, ANYTHING ELSE? NOPE.
WITH THAT WE WILL ADJOURN THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP AT 6:35 PM PLEASE BE BACK AT SEVEN O'CLOCK FOR OUR REGULAR MEETING.
[4. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.]
IS THURSDAY, JUNE 20TH, 2024.AND THE TIME IS 7:04 PM AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LEANDRO CITY COUNCIL.
RABBI CANTOR MARIE VECHER, FORMER A PD CHAPLAIN WILL BE PROVIDING THE INVOCATION, FOLLOWING THE INVOCATION.
PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE.
FATHER, FIRST WE SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF ALL WHO ARE GATHERED HERE TODAY.
OUR MAYOR, OUR CITY COUNCIL, AND OUR CITY MANAGER.
WE THANK YOU LORD FOR YOUR MANY AND ABUNDANT BLESSINGS FOR LIFE ITSELF, FOR THE MEASURE OF HEALTH WHICH WE NEED TO FULFILL OUR CALLINGS IN THE SS.
LORD, YOU HAVE SAID THAT CITIZENS OUGHT TO OBEY THE GOVERNING AUTHORITY SINCE YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED THOSE VERY AUTHORITIES TO PROMOTE PEACE AND ORDER.
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OUR CITY OFFICIALS AND IN PARTICULAR THIS ASSEMBLED COUNCIL.GOD, WE ASK THAT DIVISIVENESS AND ANGER WE SEE ALL AROUND US, BE SOFTENED BY YOUR LOVE, WHETHER IN OUR CITY, STATE OR COUNTRY, WE NEED YOU MORE THAN EVER.
NOW WE ARE SO BLESSED THAT EVERY DAY THE FLAG FLIES OVER THE LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS AND VALOR OF THE BRAVE.
WE LOVE OUR COUNTRY AND WE HONOR OUR VETERANS AND ACTIVE DUTY ARE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS, EMS AND ALL FIRST RESPONDERS.
IT IS BECAUSE OF THEIR SELFLESS ACTIONS AND DEVOTION TO THIS LAND THAT WE SIT HERE TODAY FREE AND IN PEACE AND ABLE TO RETURN TO OUR HOMES.
WE LIVE IN SUCH PRECARIOUS TIMES, PARTICULARLY WITH ALL OF US HAVING LIVED THROUGH A PANDEMIC.
WE REALIZE EVERY DAY THAT MANY OF US ARE CLOSER TO THE END THAN TO THE BEGINNING.
GIVE US COURAGE TO DO JUSTICE.
OH GOD, OPEN OUR EYES THAT WE MAY SEE THE NEEDS OF OTHERS.
SHOW US WHERE LOVE, HOPE, AND FAITH ARE NEEDED AND USE US TO BRING THEM TO THOSE PLACES.
WE PRAY THAT THIS GLORIOUS CITY OF LEANDER CONTINUES TO BLOSSOM AND FLOURISH.
AND WE GIVE THANKS THAT WE LIVE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
WE GIVE OUR THANKS FOR THOSE THAT HAVE SERVED THIS COMMUNITY.
AND WE STAND TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY READY TO ASSIST THOSE THAT DEDICATE THEIR LIVES TO BUILDING A STRONGER CITY.
KEEP ALIVE WITH IN US THE FLAME OF HOPE GOD.
SO THAT WITH PATIENCE AND PERSEVERANCE, WE MAY OPT FOR DIALOGUE AND RECONCILIATION TO WORK WITH ONE ANOTHER.
IN THIS WAY MAY PEACE, TRIUMPH AT LAST.
AND MAY THE WORDS DIVISION, HATRED AND CONFLICT BE BANISHED FROM THE HEART OF EVERY MAN AND WOMAN.
WE PRAY FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR VISION.
VISION LOOKS INWARD AND BECOMES DUTY.
VISION LOOKS OUTWARD AND BECOMES ASPIRATION AND VISION LOOKS UPWARD AND BECOMES FAITH.
RENEW OUR HEARTS AND MINDS SO THAT THE WORD WHICH ALWAYS BRINGS US TOGETHER WILL BE BROTHER OR SISTER.
AND OUR WAY OF LIFE WILL ALWAYS BE THAT OF PEACE.
AND AS ALWAYS IN THIS SITUATION, I LOVE TO CLOSE WITH HOLY WORDS FROM THE BIBLE, FROM THE BOOK OF NUMBERS, IN THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE THAN ENGLISH.
MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU.
AND MAY THE LIGHT OF GOD SHINE UPON US AND BE GRACIOUS UNTO US.
YE SAME SHALL AND MAY THE PRESENCE OF GOD BE WITH US ALL AND GRANT US PEACE.
MAY THE ONE WHO MAKES PEACE ON HIGH, BRING PEACE TO OUR CITY, STATE AND NATION AND OUR WORLD.
AND WE ASK FOR GOD'S BLESSING ON OUR MAYOR AND THIS LEANER CITY COUNCIL.
AND ON US SOUL, WE PRAY IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, WE SAY TOGETHER A AMEN ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE SAKE UNDER GOD ONE AND INDIVISIBLE
THAT WAS REMARKABLE, RABBI, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[5. Roll Call.]
SECRETARY CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CATHERINE BATTALION PARKER.HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER MICHAEL HERRERA.
HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER NICOLE THOMPSON.
PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS CERNEY.
HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER BECKY ROSS.
HERE QUORUM IS PRESIDENT CITY COUNCIL IS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS.
[6. Public comments on items not listed in the agenda.
Public comments on items listed in the agenda will be heard at the time each item is discussed.
[All comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual.]]
FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, I WILL CALL ON SPEAKERS PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE AGENDA ITEM AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED COMMENTS VIA THE WEBSITE WILL ONLY HAVE POSITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD.
ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE COUNSEL AND WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT DURING, UH, NON AGENDA ITEM PUBLIC COMMENTS, IT IS A TIME FOR YOU TO SHARE WITH COUNSEL, BUT IT IS NOT A TIME THAT WE CAN HAVE BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU.
AND AFTER ALL THAT, WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP AND LAW ANNA
GOOD EVENING, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
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ANNA ILAN.DEAR ARE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
AS DEDICATED PARENT AND EDUCATOR WHO WORKS CLOSELY WITH OUR COMMUNITY'S YOUTH, I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO PRIORITIZE THE DISSEMINATION OF, UH, SAFELY GUIDELINES BY USING YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND OTHER COMMUNICATION CHANNELS, REGULAR REMINDERS ABOUT SAFETY TIPS CAN MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, HELPING TO ENSURE, UH, SAFER AND MORE ENJOYABLE SUMMER FOR ALL RESIDENTS.
IN DOING SO, WE CAN AID IN PREVENTING ACCIDENTS, SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF FIRST RESPONDERS AND PROTECT LIVES.
I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF PROVIDING CLEAR SAFETY INSTRUCTIONS FOR PARTICIPANTS AND GUEST DURING CITYWIDE EVENTS AND FESTIVALS THIS SUMMER WITH THE UPCOMING LAND LIBERTY FEST.
SERVING AS NOT ABLE EXAMPLE, IT IS A CRUCIAL THAT ALL SAFETY GUIDELINES, UH, CLEARLY COMMUNICATED AND STRONGLY FOLLOWED TO ENSURE THEIR WELLBEING OF ALL ATTENDEES.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT CAN HAPPEN AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE RECENT INCIDENT IN OUR NEIGHBORING CITY CASE SAFETY MEASURES INCLUDE CROWD CONTROL, HYDRATION, UH, HEAT PROTECTION, FIRST AID STATION, BEHAVIORAL GUIDELINES, LOST AND FOUND.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING NOT ON THE AGENDA.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD TO SIGN UP.
LITTLE SELF-CENTERED MEETING FOR ME.
AND THIS IS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, IT'S MY OWN PERSONAL AGENDA.
PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, AND THEN YOU'LL FILL OUT A FORM WITH THE CITY SECRETARY.
I'M BUILDING THE COMMUNITY BELOW OF LEANDER THE 16 BED.
UH, IT'S A SMALL RESIDENTIAL ASSISTED LIVING.
I'M HERE TO APPEAL TO YOU AND I'M HERE TO APPEAL TO CITY ADMINISTRATION.
UH, IT IS REGARDING MY IRRIGATION PERMIT.
UH, BUT FIRST I WANT TO EXPRESS AN APPRECIATION FOR WHAT I SAW TODAY ABOUT THE TURF CRUST DISCUSSION.
I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH A, A DISCUSSION IN HOW THE CITY COUNCIL MAKES DECISIONS.
I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED, UH, WITH ALL THE SENSE OF INCLUSIVITY AND FAIRNESS THAT WAS DISPLAYED HERE.
I AM HERE TO REQUEST BECAUSE I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE AS A DEVELOPER AND I, I I WON THE CITY AUTHORITIES TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT NOT EVERYBODY'S CIRCUMSTANCES ARE THE SAME.
AND THE CHALLENGES WHEN WE ARE AS AN INDIVIDUAL MOM AND POP, UH, DEVELOPER, WE FACE DIFFERENT THAN OTHER PEOPLE'S.
UH, IT IS, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYONE WORKS HARD AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS PUT FORTH BY THE CITY IN MANAGING PERMIT APPLICATIONS.
UH, BUT I FEEL THAT THE CITY SHOULD NOT HAVE A RIGID ALGORITHM TO EVERY SITUATION, MIGHT NOT ALWAYS BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE APPROACH.
A MORE PERSONALIZED AND FRIENDLY APPROACH TO PERMIT PROCESS CAN BENEFIT BOTH THE CITY AND ITS BUSINESS OWNERS.
AND, UH, THEY HAVE BEEN IN THIS LAST TWO YEARS, IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY FOR ME TO EVEN COME TO THIS, UH, PODIUM.
IT'S BEEN, UH, DIFFICULT AND A, I CALL IT THE DISNEY RIDE BECAUSE IT MAKES ME TO COPE WITH THAT RIDE BETTER.
PLEASE FILL OUT A FORM WITH THE CITY SECRETARY IN THE BECK.
UM, THERE'S NOBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, WE ARE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM
[7. Staff Reports
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WE HAVE THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WITH SPECIAL EVENTS COORDINATOR, GUNTHER, OH AND DIRECTOR TUBMANS.
I BROUGHT A FEW OF MY CLOSEST FRIENDS, SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO INTRODUCE GREG, RACHEL, ONI AND MARYELLE WHO DAILY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIFE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'LL START WITH MARYELLE AND RACHEL FIRST AS THEY COME UP AND SHARE WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LIBERTY FEST COMING UP IN JUST UNDER TWO WEEKS.
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GOOD EVENING.IT'S BEEN JUST OVER SIX MONTHS SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE AND IT'S BEEN A GREAT, FANTASTIC EXPERIENCE.
SO I'M REALLY PROUD TO SAY, UM, WE, THE LIBERTY FEST IS GOING REALLY, REALLY WELL.
I DEFINITELY CANNOT TAKE ANY OF THE CREDIT.
SO I'M ACTUALLY GONNA PASS IT OVER TO MURIEL.
SHE CAN EXPLAIN SOME OF THE DETAILS OF CHANGES AND THINGS I LOOK FORWARD TO IN LIBERTY FEST.
I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE EVERYBODY TO LIBERTY FEST ON JULY 3RD AT DIVINE LAKE PARK.
THE EVENTS, THE EVENT STARTS AT 6:00 PM WITH A FIREWORK SHOW AT NINE 30.
THERE IS FREE OFFSITE PARKING AVAILABLE AT GLEN HIGH SCHOOL.
BUSES WILL TRANSPORT PEOPLE FROM THE PARK TO THE PARKING LOCATION.
THE LAYOUT IS SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR WITH THE ONLY MAJOR CHANGE BEING VIP PARKING AT THE LEANDER ACTIVITY CENTER.
OUR ENTERTAINMENT THIS YEAR IS COUNTRY ARTISTS HANNAH KAY, FOLLOWED BY A COVER BAND.
YOU CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION ON LIBERTY FEST, INCLUDING FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS AND A LIST OF OUR VENDORS@LEANDERTX.GOV SLASH LIBERTY.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? ONE, UM, MAJOR CHANGE THAT IS HAPPENING? UNFORTUNATELY, CHUCK, UH, RESIGNS.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE TO TAKE THE VAN INSTEAD OF THE BUS AND I WILL BE ONE OF THE DRIVERS.
WE'LL ACTUALLY BE SUPPLYING YOU WITH BASICALLY THE NAMES AND NUMBERS AND TIMES WE'LL BE DRIVING AS WELL SO YOU CAN CONTACT US.
WE'LL BE KIND OF GOING BACK AND FORTH THE LAND ACTIVITY CENTER IN DIVINE LAKE PARK TOO.
IS CAT METRO HELPING AT ALL WITH BUSES THIS YEAR? YES.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WITH HER,
UM, I THINK, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE SECOND BAND AGAIN? THE AFTER PARTY.
THEY'RE VERY, VERY VARIETY OF, OF SONGS AND, AND GENRES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT IF YOU WANNA EXPLAIN MORE OF THE CHANGES THIS YEAR, GO AHEAD.
SO THE LAYOUT IS SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR, UM, WITH THE STAGE NEAR THE LAKE AT DIVINE LAKE PARK.
MAJOR CHANGES ARE REALLY JUST THE VIP PARKING BEING AT THE LEANDER ACTIVITY CENTER AND SHUTTLING VIPS OVER.
UM, ARE Y'ALL ABLE TO SPEAK TO IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY ENFORCEMENT FOR PEOPLE PARKING ON THE STREET? UM, I GOT A MESSAGE TODAY FROM SOMEBODY THAT LIVES ON WATERFALL THAT SAID LAST YEAR THEY HAD PEOPLE PARKED IN FRONT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY AND COULDN'T GET OUT.
UM, ARE WE DOING ANYTHING TO POLICE THAT OR CAN THEY PUT LIKE LITTLE BARRICADES OUT THEMSELVES OR WHAT'S THE PLAN? WE WILL HAVE SIGNAGE ALONG WATERFALL AVE.
ALSO THE SECTION BETWEEN DEER CREEK AND I BELIEVE SUNNYBROOK ARE CLOSED.
SO WHAT IS VIP? IS THAT VENDORS AND STAFF THAT ARE WORKING OR WHAT DOES SOMEBODY GET SPONSORS BY VIP.
SO IF SOMEBODY WANTED VIP PARKING, THEY CAN'T GO BUY IT.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE EARNED IT THROUGH SPONSORSHIP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
AND THEN WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT,
[8. Recognitions/Proclamations/Visitors.
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COUNCIL MEMBER ZURICH HAS THE PARKS AND REC MONTH.
WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY, INCLUDING LEANDER, TEXAS.
AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROMOTE TIME SPENT IN NATURE, WHICH POSITIVELY IMPACTS MENTAL HEALTH BY INCREASING COGNITIVE PERFORMANCE AND WELLBEING AND ALLEVIATING ILLNESSES SUCH AS DEPRESSION, ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDERS, AND ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE.
AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION ENCOURAGE PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES BY PROVIDING SPACE FOR POPULAR SPORTS, HIKING TRAILS, SWIMMING POOLS, AND MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES DESIGNED TO PROMOTE ACTIVE LIFESTYLES.
AND WHEREAS PARK AND RECREATION PROGRAMMING AND EDUCATION ACTIVITIES ARE CRITICAL TO CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT, ENSURE THE, UH, ECOLOGICAL BEAUTY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO CONNECT WITH NATURE AND RECREATE OUTDOORS.
AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION INCREASED A COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC PROSPERITY THROUGH INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES, EXPANSION OF LOCAL TAX BASE, INCREASED TOURISM,
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THE ATTRACTION AND RETENTION OF BUSINESSES AND CRIME REDUCTION.AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION ARE ESSENTIAL AND ADAPTABLE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT MAKES OUR COMMUNITIES RESILIENT IN THE FACE OF NATURE, NATURAL DISASTERS AND CHANGED ENVIRONMENTS.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF LEANO RECOGNIZES THE BENEFITS DERIVED FROM PARKS AND RECREATIONS RESOURCES.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, CHRISTINE, UH, MAYOR CHRISTINE LYLE OF THE CITY OF LEAN TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JULY, 2024 AS PARK AND RECREATION MONTH.
YOU DIDN'T WANT, MR. JONES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW THINGS? THANK YOU ABOUT YOUR INCREDIBLE DEPARTMENT.
I WOULD, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO ALL OF OUR STAFF.
OF COURSE, THERE'S MORE THAN, THAN WHAT'S HERE.
SO, UM, HOPEFULLY WE HAVE THAT READY TO GO.
SO THIS IS OUR RECREATION AND ATHLETIC STAFF.
UM, EIGHT YEARS AGO THERE WAS LIKE FOUR OF US TOTAL, FIVE OF US, PLUS ABOUT SIX MAINTENANCE STAFF.
Y'ALL HAVE BEEN SO GRACIOUS TO US OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS TO REALLY INCREASE THE NUMBER, NOT ONLY THE NUMBER OF STAFF, BUT THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR CITIZENS THAT ARE OUT THERE THROUGH THE, THE AVENUE OF PARKS AND RECREATION, PARKS, CAMPS, SO MANY THINGS THAT TAKE PLACE.
AND THESE, THESE FOLKS RIGHT HERE ARE A STRONG, STRONG SUPPORT GROUP OF THIS, THIS AREA.
SO YOU CAN RECOGNIZE QUITE A FEW OF THEM, UH, FROM OUR ATHLETICS AND RECREATION SIDE.
BUT THAT'S NOT ALL, THAT'S NOT ALL.
THIS IS OUR AQUATIC STAFF FOR THIS YEAR.
WHAT AN INCREDIBLE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE, MAKING PEOPLE SAFE AND LEARNING AND TEACHING ABOUT AQUATICS, UM, AND BEING SAFE AROUND WATER.
SO WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE TO THIS GROUP.
UM, I, I WANT TO BACK UP, UM, AND POINT OUT THIS PERSON RIGHT HERE IS ALSO THIS PERSON RIGHT HERE,
GREG GETS HIS PICTURE EVERYWHERE.
OH, AND OH, WHAT'S THIS? RIGHT HERE, RIGHT THERE.
SO DON'T COUNT THAT LIKE AS ONE.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, THIS IS OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF OPERATIONS.
AND THESE, THESE, THIS GROUP OF GUYS AND ONE LADY ARE INCREDIBLE.
AND THEY, THEY, THEY TAKE CARE OF OUR PARKS.
THEY START AROUND FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, UH, CLEANING RESTROOMS AND TRASH CANS ALL, ALL AROUND THE CITY, ALL THE PARKS ON A DAILY BASIS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR.
AND, UM, AND THEN THEY MOVE INTO MOWING AND TAKING CARE OF THE BALL FIELDS AND ATHLETIC COMPLEXES AND THE, AND THE POOL AND SO FORTH.
THEY DO SUCH AN INCREDIBLE JOB AND WE'RE SO APPRECIATIVE TO THEM FOR THEIR, THEIR, BUT WE CAN'T FORGET ALSO OUR GOLF COURSE STAFF.
UM, AN INCREDIBLE BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO PLAY.
MOST OF YOU'RE VERY MUCH AWARE OF, UH, THE CONDITIONS OF THE COURSE AND, UM, JUST THE THINGS THAT THEY DO ON A DAILY BASIS TO MAKE THIS AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY FOR NOT ONLY LEANDER RESIDENTS, BUT PEOPLE THAT COME FROM VERY FAR AWAY IN MANY CASES TO PLAY OUR COURSE.
AND THEN LASTLY IS OUR WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL LIBRARY STAFF.
INCREDIBLE THAT JUST A LITTLE OVER THREE, ALMOST, UH, FOUR YEARS AGO, THEY ALL BECAME LEANDER, UH, CITY EMPLOYEES.
AND THAT'S A CREDIT TO YOU AS WELL.
AND THEY'RE VERY WELL, UH, REWARDED AND COMPENSATED AND LOVE WHAT THEY DO.
UH, AND SO IT'S MUCH BETTER, UH, AS WE, AS WE HAVE IT NOW.
SO THESE, THIS WONDERFUL STAFF JUST TAKES CARE OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, UH, ON A MONTHLY AND ANNUAL BASIS AS WELL WITH THEIR, THEIR, THEIR LIBRARY AND READING AND CAMPS AND EVERYTHING.
THEY ALSO DO, 'CAUSE THEY'VE GOT 14 OVER 1400 PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR SUMMER READING PROGRAM THIS YEAR ALONE.
SO WHAT AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY.
BUT WITH THAT, WE ALSO HAVE A FEW THINGS WE WANNA POINT OUT THAT ARE SPECIFIC, RELATED TO JULY AND PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH.
AND I THINK RACHEL'S GONNA COME UP AND NIE ARE GONNA COME UP AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
UM, SO YEAH, UM, NIE AND I HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING BASICALLY JULY, UM, POINTING OUT.
UM, WE'RE CELEBRATING, UH, NATIONAL DAYS AND FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE FIRST WE'RE GONNA DO ICE CREAM NATIONAL, IT'S NATIONAL CREATIVE ICE CREAM FLAVOR DAY.
UM, SO THAT SOME OF THESE ACTUALLY WE, WE STILL NEED TO IRON OUT THE LOCATION, BUT I CAN TELL YOU ICE CREAM DAY WILL BE AT THE LAC NICE AND AIR CONDITION
UM, WE'LL HAVE LIKE BASICALLY ICE CREAM BAR WITH DIFFERENT CONDIMENTS, DIFFERENT KINDS OF ICE CREAM IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE CREATIVE ONES.
UM, OF COURSE WE HAVE LIBERTY FEST, KIKI, UH, WE HAVE THE KIKI SPLASH BASH AT THE POOL ON FRIDAY.
AND THEN NEXT WEEK WE'RE DOING ALL, IT'S ACTUALLY ALL AMERICAN PET
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PHOTO DAY.SO WE'LL BE AT LAKEWOOD PARK FOR THAT.
WE'RE GONNA BE SETTING UP LIKE A PHOTO BOOTH FOR PEOPLE AND THEIR PETS TO TAKE.
UM, AND THAT SHOULD BE REALLY, REALLY FUN.
AND THEN THE NEXT DAY WE'RE GONNA DO DIVE IN MOONY MOONY MOVIE WITH THE GOONIES.
UM, AND THEN I'M GONNA PASS IT ON TO ONI IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT NEXT ONE.
SO COMING UP ON THE 17TH OF JULY IS NATIONAL HOTDOG DAY, SO WE'LL BE CELEBRATING THAT BY BRINGING UP YOUR FAVORITE HOT DOGS.
I KNOW I LIKE PICKLES ON MY HOT DOGS AND SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT'S WEIRD.
SO WE'LL FIND IT OUT ON THE 17TH.
UH, TWO DAYS LATER WE'RE GONNA HAVE A POOLSIDE CONCERT AT THE BLEDSO POOL.
FOLLOWING FRIDAY IS BAGEL FEST DAY, WHERE ONCE AGAIN WE'RE GONNA SEE WHAT TYPE OF BAGELS PEOPLE LIKE OUT THERE.
AND THEN THIS ONE IS ONE OF THE ONE DAYS THAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO.
IT'S GOING TO BE JULY THE 29TH.
IT'S NATIONAL CHICKEN WING DAY
AND SO I'M A FAN OF HOT ONES AND SO WE'RE GONNA SEE WHO CAN LAST THAT FINAL DAB.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WHEN IS THAT PET PHOTO DAY? PET PHOTO DAY? I'LL BE BRINGING OUT MY DOG TOO.
UM, IS JULY 11TH AND WE'LL PROBABLY BE SETTING UP A PHOTO BOOTH ALL DAY, UM, FOR, AND THEN WE'LL PROBABLY BREAK IT DOWN AT SUNSET.
GREG, COME UP HERE SO WE CAN GET A PHOTO OF YOU,
HEY GUYS, YOU KNOW, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT LEANDER GROWTH AND WE TEND TO TALK ABOUT IT IN A NEGATIVE WAY.
AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE POSITIVE WAYS THAT WE'VE GROWN IS I THINK, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO WE WEREN'T DOING NEARLY AS MANY PROGRAMS. WE DEFINITELY DIDN'T HAVE NEARLY AS MANY STAFF.
SO THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR REALLY FACILITATING THINGS FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS TO DO.
YOU'VE DEFINITELY GOT SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO ITEM NUMBER
[9. Leander History]
NINE, LEANDER HISTORY WITH OUR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMISSIONER KAT HOWELL.SPIRITS OF BAGHDAD, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY PARKS AND REC, UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE HELPING US A LITTLE BIT WITH THIS.
AND ON OCTOBER 17TH THIS YEAR, WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING AN EVENT AT THE CEMETERY, IT'S CALLED SPIRITS OF BAGHDAD.
AND IT IS GOING TO BE WHERE WE HAVE ACTORS THAT WILL BE PORTRAYING INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ACTUALLY BURIED IN THE CEMETERY.
UM, YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S A, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S DONE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND OTHER PLACES.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF FUN WITH IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM, THEY REALLY GET INTO THE WHOLE HALLOWEEN THEME AND ALL THAT AND HAVE IT AT NIGHT.
OURS IS GONNA BE IN THE LATE AFTERNOON.
WE'RE NOT GOING NIGHT
AND THIS EVENT, THE NEXUS OF WHERE THIS CAME FROM IS THAT BRIDGET AND THE CHAMBER, THEY SECURED A HISTORIC TOURISM GRANT.
SO WE ARE WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CHAMBER ON THIS.
AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A BUDGET TO HIRE ACTORS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S COUNCIL KNIGHT.
WELL, Y'ALL KNOW WHAT YOU'LL BE DOING IN THE AFTERNOON BEFORE YOU GET THERE.
UM, WE WE'RE ONLY GONNA BE ABLE TO, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT, WE'RE ONLY GONNA BE ABLE TO GET ABOUT 400 PEOPLE THROUGH THIS IS OUR FIRST YEAR.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE, THAT'S OUR GOAL.
SO, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF FUN.
UM, SO ALSO GOING WITH THE THEME THAT
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WE HAVE NEW PEOPLE HERE, I AM GOING TO DO A LITTLE BACKTRACKING TO TALK ABOUT BAGHDAD CEMETERY, UM, BAGHDAD CEMETERY.I LEARNED SOMETHING NEW TODAY.
I DID NOT KNOW THIS, BUT, UM, THE STATE SYM, THE VETERAN STATE VETERAN CEMETERY IN KILLEEN WAS NOT CREATED UNTIL 2006.
PRIOR TO THAT YEAR, BAGHDAD CEMETERY, THEY OFFERED AT NO COST, UM, PLOTS FOR HOMELESS VETERANS.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE HAVE A STRONG CONTINGENT OF VETERANS IN OUR PARK, OR IN OUR CEMETERY, EXCUSE ME, NOT THE PARK.
UM, THE CEMETERY WAS FOUNDED IN 1857 WITH THE BURIAL OF 3-YEAR-OLD JOHN BABCOCK, WHO WE WILL HAVE IN OUR, OUR, UM, UH, SPIRITS OF BAGHDAD.
RIGHT HERE ON THE RIGHT HERE IS THE ORIGINAL WATER.
WELL THAT WAS DUG PRIOR TO THAT.
IT WAS DUG, WE BELIEVE IN 1849.
THE ROADWAY BAGHDAD ROAD, AS I'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, IS ONE OF THE OLDEST ROADS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
AND THIS WAS THE SPOT WHERE PEOPLE STOPPED TO WATER THEMSELVES AND WATER THEIR HORSES.
AND IT DID HAVE WATER IN IT UP UNTIL THE NINETIES.
I DON'T THINK IT DOES RIGHT NOW, BUT IT, IT DID PRIOR TO THE, THE, THE MOST CURRENT DROUGHT.
THIS IS THE, THE TOMBSTONE OF ROBERT MASON.
AND I, I JUST SHOW IT HERE BECAUSE ROBERT MASON IS SUCH AN INTERESTING INDIVIDUAL AND ON HIS TOMBSTONE IT HAS INDIVIDUALS NAMES, AND THEN $5, IT'S JUST THE LIST.
AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND I HAVE FOUND OUT THAT THIS IS WHAT HE LEFT THESE INDIVIDUALS WAS $5 EACH.
HERE IS A NEWER PICTURE THAT I'VE TAKEN AND IT'S, UM, MORNING DOVES ON, ON A PERSON'S GRAVE.
I THINK THAT'S JUST SUCH A NEAT, NEAT PICTURE.
THIS IS THE, UM, CTA A SYNTA IS WHEN WE CANNOT GET TO A PERSON'S TOMBSTONE, WE CANNOT GET TO THAT PERSON, OR WE DO NOT KNOW WHERE THAT PERSON IS IN THIS CASE.
THIS IS MARTIN JONES WELLS AND SARA BOYD WELLS.
THEY WERE CITIZENS OF THE REPUBLIC.
UM, MARTIN JONES WELLS WAS A, UM, TEXAS RANGER.
MARTIN WELLS IS WHO, UH, ACTUALLY BUILT THE FIRST CABIN AND WHAT IS NOW BASTROP.
HE, HE SETTLED THERE AND CREATED THAT COMMUNITY.
UM, AND WHERE IT'S INACCESSIBLE, EVERYONE KEEPS TELLING ME IN THE, UM, THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT THAT THE UPCHURCH AND THE WELL CEMETERY ARE BEING WELL PROTECTED RIGHT NOW WHILE THEY'RE DEVELOPING THE, UM, RANCH, UH, W RANCH UP THERE.
BUT THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY BURIED.
BUT WE KEEP A SYNTA FOR THEM DOWN IN BAGHDAD.
AND THEN THIS IS ON THE LEFT IS JUST A PICTURE OF THE ROAD THERE.
AND IN THE WINTER ON THE RIGHT, THAT IS, UH, THE TOMBSTONE OF COLONEL CC MASON AND HIS FIRST WIFE THERE IS IN THE CRYPT.
JENNY HAS MOVED UP TO CORSICANA.
THIS IS THE OPENING IMAGE OF TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE.
SO, UM, AND WE WILL BE FEATURING THIS IN OUR SPIRITS OF BAGHDAD EVENT,
UM, AND THIS IS A PICTURE OF, UM, CLARENCE PICKLE.
HE'S ONE OF OUR WORLD WAR I VETERANS.
AND I THOUGHT I'D TAKEN THIS PICTURE OUT.
AND I HOPE TO SEE EVERYBODY THAT CAN COME OUT ON OCTOBER 17TH.
'CAUSE UH, IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD EVENT AND IT'S GONNA BE FUN AND PAID ACTORS.
QUICK, QUICK QUESTION ON THAT.
IS IT, UH, A PROGRAM THAT TAKES THE WHOLE TWO HOURS? OR IS A SELF-GUIDED YOU WALK THROUGH STATION STATIONS? OH, NO.
UM, SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE, UM, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE GONNA START OUT WITH A SHOTGUN, UM, SHOTGUN START.
WE ARE GONNA HAVE FIVE STATIONS, FIVE GRAVES, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LEADER, WE'RE GONNA BREAK DOWN INTO GROUPS OF 15 PLUS THE KIDS.
AND THEN, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LEADER FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE GROUPS.
SO WE'LL HAVE FIVE LITER AND WE'LL GO COUNTER CLOCK, OH, EXCUSE ME, CLOCKWISE, UH, WITH A SHOTGUN START.
AND THEN WE'LL START GOING THAT WAY BACKWARDS.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP GOING LIKE THAT.
SO EVERYONE WILL BE ESCORTED IN GROUPS OF 15.
IT WON'T BE JUST WALKTHROUGH AND, AND ALRIGHT.
SO ANYBODY WHO'S PLANNING ON GOING NEEDS TO TO BE THERE AT SIX.
AND WE WILL BE, WELL, UH, WE WILL BE SELLING TICKETS ON EVENTBRITE.
UH, YEAH, WE WILL BE SELLING TICKETS ON EVENTBRITE AND, UM, BRIDGET WILL PROBABLY BE HERE LATER ON TO HAVE MORE DETAILS OR IF NOT, I'LL COME WITH MORE
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DETAILS.[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
OUR CONSENT AGENDA.YOU'LL BE CONSIDERING CONSENT.
A CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS 10 THROUGH 22.
THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM, MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND, MOTION.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[23. Discuss and consider action on the Second Reading of an Ordinance regarding Special Use Case Z-24-0111 to allow for temporary buildings on one (1) parcel of land approximately 0.775 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R505808; and more commonly known as 449 San Gabriel Campus Drive, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. ]
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING SPECIAL USE CASE Z DASH 24 DASH 0 1 1 1 TO ALLOW FOR TEMPORARY BUILDINGS ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 0.775 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA.EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, GRIFFIN.
SO THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE LISD PORTABLES ON THE A CC CAMPUS.
UM, DURING THE LAST MEETING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL DID APPROVE THE REQUEST, BUT THEY DID ASK THAT STAFF CONTACT THE, UM, NORTHLINE DEVELOPER TO SEE IF THEY HAD AN OPINION ABOUT THE, THE SCREENING REQUIREMENT.
UM, I DID GET FEEDBACK THAT THEY'D PREFER TO SEE SOME TYPE OF SCREENING.
UM, SINCE THE PORTABLES WILL BE THERE FOR FIVE YEARS, UM, THE INTENT IS TO SCREEN THE LOWER HALF OF THE BUILDINGS 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE MOST WEAR AND TEAR.
AND, UM, I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THE APPLICANT'S ALSO HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
UM, THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE CAN JUST JUMP INTO OUR DISCUSSION.
UM, I WATCHED BACK Y'ALL'S VIDEO WHILE WE WERE ABSENT AND THANK YOU FOR THE THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION.
I HAD SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT THE SCREENING, THOUGH.
THIS IS ONLY FOR FIVE YEARS MAX WHILE THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR PERMANENT BUILDING.
AND, UM, AND THEN WHATEVER SCREENING THEY PUT IN IS GONNA HAVE TO GET TORN OUT.
UM, AND I DROVE BY THE SITE TODAY AND FROM THE SITE YOU CAN SEE THE MASSIVE DIRT PILE THAT IS ON THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH THAT WANTS THE SCREENING.
AND, UH, THAT DIRT PILE IS SO BIG AND HAS BEEN THERE SO LONG, IT HAS VEGETATED ITSELF.
SO IF I WERE ASKED PERSONALLY IF I WANTED MY NEIGHBORS TO PUT UP AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE TREES AND WHATNOT TO HIDE THEIR HOMES FROM ME, YEAH, I WOULD LIKE THAT TOO.
BUT IN THIS CASE, I, I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THE, THE SCREENING OF THE PROPERTY.
AND MAYBE THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN WORK THAT WHERE, UM, MAYBE WE SAY THAT WE WAIVE THE SCREENING FOR FIVE YEARS THAT WAY IN THE EVENT THAT THEY STAY HERE LONGER THAN THEY'RE TELLING US THEY DO SCREEN IT, BUT CURRENTLY WHILE THAT DIRT PILE IS THERE, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT AND THEY DON'T EITHER.
BUT, UM, BUT THE WASN'T DIDN'T THIS COMING ABOUT BECAUSE WE REQUIRED THE SCREENING AS A CITY.
UM, IT IT'S PART OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS.
UM, BUT I DID WANNA SPEAK TO, TO YOUR PROPOSAL.
SO IF, UM, THEY DID COME BACK AFTER FIVE YEARS, IT WOULD BE A RENEWAL.
SO YOU DO HAVE A SECOND CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU COULD REQUEST.
SO THIS IS ONLY GOOD FOR FIVE YEARS ANYWAY.
I JUST THINK IT'S ONEROUS TO REQUIRE THEM TO PUT IN ALL OF THAT EXPENSE TO RIP IT OUT IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S REQUIRED.
MY, MY WHOLE THING IN THE BEGINNING IT WAS VERY SIMPLE, WAS NO PROBLEM AS LONG AS NOBODY ELSE HAS A PROBLEM.
AND IF THE, IF SOMEBODY ELSE FROM THE NORTH SIDE SAID THERE WAS A PROBLEM, THEN WE SAID, SOMEBODY SAID LAST TIME, THEN THAT'S FINE.
I'M TRYING TO KEEP IT THAT SIMPLE RIGHT NOW TOO.
SO I'LL STAY RIGHT WHERE I WAS AT, WHICH WAS, IF THERE WAS NO PROBLEM WITH IT, ABSOLUTELY.
I'M NOT GONNA GET MY, UM, I AGREE THAT I UNDER I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT THOUGH.
I DO WANT TO, I DO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I UNDERSTAND THIS AS WELL.
SO RATHER THAN ME SAYING SOMETHING TO THAT EXTENT TOO, 'CAUSE I DO AGREE, BUT I'M GONNA KEEP IT SIMPLE, WHICH IS IF IF IT'S, IF IT'S A REQUIREMENT, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE AN EXCEPTION AND NOBODY HAS A PROBLEM WITH IT, FINE.
UM, IF SOMEBODY HAS A PROBLEM WITH IT, THEN WHY DON'T WE JUST DO WHAT IT SAYS.
IT IS ALSO A VERY LONG DISTANCE TO THAT NEXT PROPERTY.
BUT COUNSEL, WHAT ARE THE REST OF Y'ALL'S THOUGHTS HERE? SCREENING OR NO SCREENING.
I MEAN, THE ONLY WAY, THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA DO IS, I MEAN THAT'S, WELL YEAH, IF THAT HAS TO BE PART OF THE MOTION, THEN YEAH, I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN GO THROUGH AND MAKE A MOTION AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
I THINK THAT WE, WE CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY, BUT I, I WOULD WANNA MAKE IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE, THE SCREENINGS SCREENING REQUIREMENTS ARE AND HOW IT CAN, HOW WE CAN MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND MEET THE REQUEST, UM, WITHOUT IT BEING TOO, TOO MUCH OF A INCONVENIENCE AND EXPENSE.
ROBIN, ARE YOU, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? LIKE TYPE OF SCREENING OR IS THERE YEAH, THERE WAS NOTHING SPECIFIC ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IS IT MASONRY, IS IT LANDSCAPE? WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE LANDSCAPE SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO WATER, UM,
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HOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE, WHAT IS THE LEAST OBTRUSIVE AND LEAST EXPENSIVE APPROVED SCREENING THAT THAT CAN BE DONE? I MEAN, IT'D PROBABLY BE LANDSCAPING, UM, BUT WITH A, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.UM, PART OF THE BENEFITS OF THAT PERMIT IS Y'ALL HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY IF YOU THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE NOT TO SCREEN, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO GRANT THAT.
IF YOU THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO SCREEN, YOU COULD MM-HMM.
UM, BUT WE WOULD LOOK FOR EITHER, UH, WOOD PICKET OR LANDSCAPING.
AND EVENTUALLY THIS, IF, IF THIS IS THE WAY I UNDERSTAND, WOULD BE A BUILDING SITE ANYWAY, THAT WOULD REQUIRE SCREENING.
UM, I BELIEVE THE SITE IS NEXT DOOR FOR THEIR BUILDING.
BUT ONCE THEY BUILT THAT BUILDING, THEN THE PORTABLES WOULD GO AWAY.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YEAH.
I'M NOT CONFIDENT IT'S EITHER GONNA, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE HERE, BUT IT MIGHT BE ON THIS SIDE.
'CAUSE THAT'S CLOSER TO THE PARKING ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
SO THE, THE LINES THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A LINE, THAT'S JUST POINTERS.
WE, WE'D PUT ARROWS ONTO TO THE DISTANCES.
SO WHERE WOULD THE SCREENING BE? SO IT'D BE WHERE THEY HAVE THE RED LINES.
AND MAYBE IT, IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S JUST KIND OF THAT VIEW AREA.
WHEN YOU SAY LANDSCAPING, LIKE WHAT DO YOU MEAN QUALIFY FOR SCREENING? UM, SHRUBS.
'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE BASE AREA WHERE YOU SEE THE MOST DAMAGE ON PORTABLES.
AND AGAIN, AND IT'S THEN THEY HAVE TO ADD WATER OR IS IT ALREADY THERE? I MEAN, THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T REQUIRE AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM.
YOU JUST HAVE TO, TO WATER IT.
WATER SUPPLIES WITH THE, IF YOU HAVE TO SCREEN, CAN I ASK WHAT MATERIAL ARE YOU PLANNING TO USE? IF YOU HAVE TO SCREEN COME ON OR WHAT, WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE? SINCE WE'RE JUST MAKING STUFF UP, UP HERE.
WHAT'S AC WHAT WOULD ACTUALLY GET BUILT? YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.
RIGHT NOW WE WOULD PROBABLY GO WITH FENCING.
LIKE IT WOULD PICK IT AND I BELIEVE THE CODE WOULD BE BLACK VINYL, UM, OH, IS THE WRONG ONE.
WHATEVER WE NEED TO PUT IN THERE.
YEAH, YOU, IF I REMEMBER, YOU JUST NEED TO GET ROCKING RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF THEM GETTING NARCAN, HIM QUESTIONS.
I'M OKAY WITH WOOD PICKET AS LONG AS YOU DON'T WATER IT.
I'M MUCH BETTER WITH THAN LIKE, FULL ON TREES AND, AND WHATNOT.
SO WHICHEVER WAY Y'ALL WANNA GO ON IT.
OKAY, THEN I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE JUST LIKE WHAT WE DID IN THE LAST MEETING TO GET EVERYTHING GOING HERE THAT THE FENCING WOULD, OR THE, THE SCREENING WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
AND WE CAN JUST SEE HOW EVERYBODY VOTES.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[24. Discuss and consider action on the approval of the Glory Hill Phasing Plan associated with Subdivision Case CP-24-0030 on four (4) parcels of land approximately 16.4 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R568149, R551919, R082172, and R082171; generally located east of the intersection of Raider Way and East Woodview Drive, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.]
24, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE APPROVAL OF THE GLORY HILL PHASING PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH SUBDIVISION CASE CP DASH 24 DASH THREE ON FOUR PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 16.4 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA.EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO THIS IS THE GLORY HILL SUBDIVISION PHASING PLAN.
UM, THIS IS BEING PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL 'CAUSE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO THEIR DEVELOPMENT AS ONE PHASE.
UM, THE WAY OUR ORDINANCE IS STRUCTURED, UM, PHASINGS REQUIRED, IF YOU GO OVER 30 LOTS, THEY'RE PROPOSING 42 LOTS.
UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL BECAUSE IT'S A PRETTY REASONABLE REQUEST AND IT'S COMPARABLE TO OTHER, UH, FIRST PHASE DEVELOPMENTS.
AND, UM, I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THE APPLICANT'S ALSO HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[25. Discuss and consider action on an Ordinance amending Article 1.04 of the City of Leander Code of Ordinances to establish a Civil Service Commission in accordance with Chapter 143 of the Texas Local Government Code for the implementation and administration of civil service for firefighters; providing for a civil service director; and providing for severability, effective date, open meetings, and related matters.]
AM NUMBER 25, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON ORDINANCE AMENDING ARTICLE 1.04 OF THE CITY OF LEANDRO CODE OF ORDINANCES TO ESTABLISH A CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 1 4 3 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION AND ADMINISTRATION OF CIVIL SERVICE FOR FIREFIGHTERS, PROVIDING FOR A CIVIL SERVICE DIRECTOR AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY EFFECTIVE DAY OPEN MEETINGS AND RELATED MATTERS.OH, YOU'RE NOT CITY ATTORNEY SIGNS
WE, UH, WE FLIPPED A COIN IN THE BACK AND, AND, UH, I WON
SO, UH, THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
BILLY WORCESTER HAUSEN, FIRE CHIEF FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER.
SO, AS YOU KNOW, IN MAY, OUR VOTERS ELECTED TO ADOPT CHAPTER 1 43 OF THE TEXAS, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS CIVIL SERVICE.
AND THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO PART OF THAT REQUIRES TWO ACTIONS FOR TONIGHT.
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AND THEN NUMBER 26 25 IS AN ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE TO CREATE THE OFFICE OR THE COMMISSION, UH, THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION ITSELF, AND THEN ALSO THE CIVIL SERVICE DIRECTOR POSITION.UH, AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM, NUMBER 26 IS TO CONFIRM, UH, THE CITY MANAGER'S APPOINTMENT OF THE COMMISSIONERS.
SO I WANNA WALK YOU THROUGH JUST, UH, A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON WHAT IT TAKES TO BECOME A CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSIONER AND THEN ALSO WHAT THOSE DUTIES ENTAIL.
SO THE, UH, THE CHAPTER 1 43 REQUIRES THAT THESE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSIONERS BE APPOINTED WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE ADOPTION OF 1 43.
SO IF YOU GO OFF OF MAY THE FOURTH AS THAT ADOPTION DATE, THEN THAT PUTS US TO JULY 4TH AS THE DATE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE MEMBERS, UH, ON BOARD BY, UH, THAT DATE IS A CITY HOLIDAY.
OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE COUNCIL, UH, UH, MEETING THAT NIGHT.
UH, SO TODAY IS ACTUALLY THE LAST DAY BEFORE THE 60 DAY EXPIRES.
UH, BUT WE ALSO HAVE, UH, TO GET ALL OF THIS INFORMATION INTO, UH, THE SOFTWARE AND GET THAT OUT AHEAD OF TIME.
SO THAT ACTUALLY PUT OUR DEADLINE AS JUNE THE 10TH TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT.
SO RATHER THAN 60 DAYS, WE HAD FIVE WEEKS TO, UH, COME UP WITH THE PROCESS AND GET THE NAMES, UH, TO YOU TONIGHT.
SO, UH, WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING IN DISCUSSION WITH, UH, STAFF, HUMAN RESOURCES AND LEGAL AND, AND CITY MANAGEMENT OFFICE ON HOW BEST TO GO ABOUT IDENTIFYING THREE POTENTIAL CANDIDATES.
UH, WE DO HAVE A, UH, APPLICATION ON THE WEBSITE WHERE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO VOLUNTEER FOR DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OR DIFFERENT, UH, POSITIONS IN THE CITY.
AND SO WE, UH, HAVE A COLLECTION OF NAMES THAT PEOPLE HAVE SENT IN OVER THE YEARS, UH, THAT HAVE SAID THAT THEY'D BE INTERESTED IN SERVING IN SOME CAPACITY FOR POLICE OR FIRE ACTIVITIES.
SO WE SENT AN EMAIL OUT TO THE 23 INDIVIDUALS THAT WAS ON THAT LIST, AS WELL AS I SENT IT OUT TO ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF OUR DEPARTMENT, BOTH PAID AND VOLUNTEER TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO SPREAD THE MESSAGE TO OTHERS THAT, UH, MAY BE INTERESTED IN, IN THIS ROLE.
SO WE DID RECEIVE SEVEN APPLICATIONS.
FOUR OF THOSE WERE DISQUALIFIED FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS MUST BE OF GOOD MORAL CHARACTER.
UH, FORTUNATELY NONE WERE KICKED OUT FOR THAT
UH, THEY HAVE TO BE A US CITIZEN, A RESIDENT FOR NO MORE THAN THREE YEARS.
ONE IS ACTUALLY, UH, ELIMINATE OR A RESIDENT FOR MORE THAN THREE YEARS.
ONE WAS NOT A RESIDENT, SO, UH, THEY WERE KICKED OUT FOR THAT BE OVER THE AGE OF 25 AND NOT HELD, HELD PUBLIC OFFICE WITHIN THE PRECEDING THREE YEARS.
ONE OF THEM IS CURRENTLY A COMMISSIONER ON ANOTHER BOARD.
SO THAT ELIMINATED THAT PERSON.
THE OTHER TWO THAT WERE ELIMINATED, ONE OF 'EM WAS ELIMINATED THROUGH OUR ETHICS, UH, RULE.
THEY, UH, WE DO, THE CITY DOES BUSINESS WITH THIS GENTLEMAN.
HE OWNS A A BUSINESS IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO IF HE WERE TO SERVE AS A COMMISSIONER, THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO END THE CONTRACTS WITH, WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL.
UH, THE OTHER ONE IS A SPOUSE OF OUR DIVISION CHIEF, WHO IS, UH, RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING SOME OF THE EMPLOYEE MISCONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS.
UH, AND DUE TO THE ROLE OF THE COMMISSIONERS BEING, UH, POTENTIALLY HEARING THE APPEALS TO THOSE, UH, EMPLOYEE DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS, UH, THAT CREATED A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
SO IN CONSULTATION WITH, UH, LEGAL, THE OTHER THREE NAMES THAT WERE, UH, PRESENTED, UH, DID NOT GET DISQUALIFIED BASED OFF OF THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS HERE.
SO THESE, UH, COMMISSIONERS WOULD SERVE A THREE YEAR TERM.
AND THE INITIAL SETUP OF THIS THOUGH, THEY WERE, SINCE THEY'RE STAGGERED, ONE WOULD BE A ONE YEAR TERM, ONE A TWO YEAR TERM, AND THEN THE OTHER A THREE YEAR TERM.
AND, UH, THEY MAY BE REAPPOINTED AFTER THOSE INITIAL TERM EXPIRATIONS.
SO WHAT DO THEY DO? UH, SO, UH, OUTSIDE OF, SO IN, IN ESSENCE, CIVIL IS A, UH, HR POLICY THAT TELLS YOU HOW TO HIRE, FIRE, PROMOTE, AND DEMOTE.
UH, BUT THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC THINGS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS DO AS PART OF THAT.
ONE IS, IS THAT IN JANUARY OF EACH YEAR OR INITIALLY AND IN JANUARY, UH, THEY HAVE TO ELECT THEIR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR TO SERVE, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION.
UH, THEY ALSO APPOINT A PERSON TO SERVE AS THE CIVIL SERVICE DIRECTOR.
UH, THAT IS TYPICALLY IN MOST CITIES, THE HR DIRECTOR, THEY'RE JUST ASSIGNED THAT EXTRA DUTY.
UH, THEY ALSO ADOPT RULES NECESSARY FOR THE CONDUCT OF COMMISSION BUSINESS AS WELL AS FOR RULES ON HOW TO HIRE AND, AND FIRE, UH, FIREFIGHTERS.
UH, THEY DO PROVIDE FOR A CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE DIFFERENT RANKS OR THE RANK STRUCTURE.
UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT LATER IN THE YEAR AS PART OF THE, UH, PROBABLY PART OF THE BUDGET ADOPTION, WHERE WE'LL HAVE AN ORDINANCE THEN THAT IDENTIFIES THE DIFFERENT POSITIONS AND THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL IN EACH OF THOSE POSITIONS.
THEY ALSO MAY INVESTIGATE, UH, ANY TYPE OF MATTERS RELATED TO, UH, A VIOLATION OF RULES OR A VIOLATION OF THAT CHAPTER.
UM, THEY ALSO WILL DEVELOP RULES GOVERNING PROMOTIONS, INCLUDING HOW TO BREAK TIES IF YOU HAVE, UH, TWO MEMBERS AT TIE ON THE, ON THE SAME PROMOTIONAL TEST.
AND THEY CAN ALSO HEAR APPEALS TO THAT PROMOTIONAL PROCESS.
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AND THEN, SHOULD I CHOOSE TO BYPASS SOMEBODY THAT'S ON THE PROMOTIONAL LIST, THEN THEY DO HAVE A RIGHT TO APPEAL THAT TO THAT BOARD AND, AND THEY WOULD HEAR THAT.UH, THEY ALSO, UH, HAVE THE ABILITY TO HEAR FIREFIGHTER APPEALS TO ANY TYPE OF DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS SUCH AS SUSPENSION, DEMOTION, OR DISMISSAL.
HOWEVER, 1 43 DOES ALLOW FOR APPEALS OF DISCIPLINARY NATURE TO ALSO GO TO A HEARING EXAMINER.
SO IT IS UP TO THE FIREFIGHTER WHETHER THEY CHOOSE TO APPEAL TO A CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION OR TO AN INDEPENDENT HEARING EXAMINER.
AND IN MY EXPERIENCE AND IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT I'VE TALKED TO, UH, TYPICALLY THEY ALWAYS GO TO AN INDEPENDENT HEARING EXAMINER AND NOT THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.
BUT, UH, WITH THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
CAN YOU GO BACK? I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST, YEAH, ON THE REAPPOINTMENT OF TERMS, IS THERE A TERM LIMIT? I SEE THEY CAN, IT'S A ONE, TWO, AND THREE, BUT HOW MANY TIMES CAN THEY BE REAPPOINTED? UH, THERE IS NO CAP TO THAT.
SO ONCE THEY, UH, ONCE THEY'RE IN THERE, THEY CAN CONTINUE IT.
OH, THERE, THERE IS, THERE'S A, UH, THEY CAN BE REAPPOINTED FOR THREE TIMES A FOURTH AND CONSECUTIVE APPOINTMENT CAN OCCUR, BUT IT WOULD TAKE CITY COUNCIL ACTION TO DO THAT.
AND THEN THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING I SAW.
UM, YOU SAID HAVE NOT HELD PUBLIC OFFICE WITHIN THE PROCEEDING THREE YEARS.
WHAT COUNTS AS PUBLIC OFFICE? UM, WHAT POSITIONS COUNT AS THAT? THAT WOULD BE ANY POSITION WHERE THE, UH, BODY EXERCISES, SOME DISCRETION IN MAKING DECISIONS THAT THEY'RE NOT PURELY ADVISORY IN NATURE, THAT THEY MAKE FINAL DECISIONS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOUR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, THEY MAKE FINAL DECISIONS ABOUT APPEALS AND VARIANCES.
P AND Z HAS SOME OF THOSE FUNCTIONS AS WELL.
THEY MAKE FINAL DECISIONS ON A FEW THINGS.
SO THOSE ARE CONSIDERED PUBLICLY ELECTED SEAT.
SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WOULD THEY FALL UNDER THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS ADVISORY ONLY IF THEY TAKE ANY ACTION? IT'S A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.
THEY TAKE NO FINAL ACTION AND THEY DON'T EXERCISE DISCRETION ON A FINAL ACTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MOTIONS, SOMETHING? NO.
MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[26. Discuss and consider action on a Resolution confirming the appointment of Commissioners to the Firefighters’ Civil Service Commission; and providing for open meetings.]
ITEM NUMBER 26, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE APPOINTMENT OF COMMISSIONERS TO THE FIREFIGHTERS CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION AND PROVIDING FOR OPEN MEETINGS.UM, SO WHERE'S THE LANGUAGE FOR THAT? SORRY.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MCDONALD IS GOING TO RECUSE HIMSELF FROM THIS DISCUSSION.
AND AS, UH, CHIEF HAD DESCRIBED, WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS TO, UH, SOLICIT, UH, INTEREST IN OUR THREE AVAILABLE POSITIONS THAT WE NEED TO ESTABLISH WITHIN OUR SIX TODAY, UH, WINDOW.
UM, WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS AS DESCRIBED.
UM, ULTIMATELY WE HAD THREE, UM, FOLKS THAT WERE LEFT STANDING THAT, THAT MET THAT QUALIFICATION.
THOSE NAMES ARE, UH, DONNA CHERYL, WHO'S WITH THE INDEPENDENCE TITLE.
UH, NATHAN RASMUSON, WHO IS WITH, UH, AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY EMS. AND THEN, UH, KATIE MCDONALD, UH, WHO IS A BUSINESS PARTNER WITH DELL TECHNOLOGIES.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE NAMES THAT WE PRESENTED THAT MET THE QUALIFICATIONS AND ARE PRESENTED TONIGHT FOR COUNSEL RATIFICATION AND CONSIDERATION.
UM, DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONES WOULD BE APPOINTED? TO WHICH TERMS? DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE THERE? YES.
SO, UM, WE DID HAVE ONE REQUEST.
MS. CHERYL HAD REQUESTED TO BE THE ONE YEAR ASSIGNMENT, AND THEN THE OTHER TWO I THINK ARE OPEN TO EITHER THE TWO YEAR OR THE THREE YEAR.
COUNSEL, DO YOU NEED TO SAY ANYTHING OR YOU MAKE A MOTION? OH, NO, I, I WAS GONNA ASK THE QUESTION.
I WAS JUST MAYBE GONNA ASK PAIGE.
UM, CAN YOU CONFIRM IF I KNOW, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE PUBLIC OFFICE WAS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS.
DOES SERVING, UM, AND AS A PRECINCT CHAIR OR ANY OF THAT, IS THAT CONSIDERED ALSO A PUBLIC OFFICE? IS THAT A IT'S ELECTED, IT'S AN ELECTED POSITION.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING, I WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
THE POSITION OF THAT POSITION.
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UM, HOW LONG DO YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THAT? UM, WELL, I'LL START LOOKING RIGHT NOW,[27. Discuss and consider action on an Ordinance granting authority to the City Manager to establish purchasing policies and procedures; authorizing the City Manager to execute change orders or amendments to agreements within the authority level set forth in the City Charter and applicable State law; authorizing the City Manager to execute contracts approved by the City Council Counicl; amending conflicting ordinances; making findings of fact; and providing an effective date.]
UH, DARIA, AM I ABLE TO JUST STATE THAT OR DO YOU NEED SOMETHING? UH, PAIGE, CAN WE JUST STATE THAT WE'LL BE RETURNING TO THE DISCUSSION? WE
OKAY, THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO IT.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON ORDINANCE GRANTING AUTHORITY TO THE CITY MANAGER TO ESTABLISH PURCHASING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CHANGE ORDERS OR AMENDMENTS TO AGREEMENTS WITHIN THE AUTHORITY LEVEL SET FORTH IN THE CITY CHARTER AND APPLICABLE STATE LAW, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTRACTS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AMENDING CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, MAKING FINDINGS EFFECT, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE POWERS.
MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, CITY ATTORNEY ASKED ME TO SPEAK SLOW, BUT I ONLY HAVE ONE SPEED.
SO, UH, SHE'S GONNA GET HER WISH ON, ON, ON THAT.
UH, BUT IN 2023, THE, THE LAST, UH, STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, UH, THE STATE LEGISLATURE, UH, MADE A, AN ADJUSTMENT AMENDMENT TO, UH, SECTION OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THAT DEALS WITH, UH, YOUR ABILITY TO, UH, DELEGATE, UH, CHANGE ORDERS ON CERTAIN CONTRACTS, UM, FROM THE STATE'S PER PERSPECTIVE, IT WAS A CLARIFYING AMENDMENT, NOTHING, UH, UH, TOO SUBSTANTIAL.
BUT THE RIPPLE EFFECT AS WE, UH, BECAME AWARE OF THAT AMENDMENT CAUSED US TO LOOK AT, UH, PREVIOUS ACTION BY PREVIOUS CITY COUNCILS ON, UM, WHAT THE COUNCIL HAD DELEGATED TO OUR CITY MANAGER IN TERMS OF, OF CHANGE ORDERS.
UM, SO THIS BROUGHT AN, AN OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY SOME, UH, UH, CONFUSION THAT WE THEN HAD, UH, REGARDING SOME OF THOSE PRIOR ACTIONS IN LIGHT OF WHAT THE, UH, STATE HAD DONE IN, UH, CHAPTER 2 52 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
SO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT DOES NOT CHANGE PAST PRACTICE, BUT IT DOES CLARIFY, UM, WHAT THAT DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY APPLIES TO.
SO FOR REFERENCE, IN 2013, THE CITY COUNCIL BY RESOLUTION AT THAT TIME, DELEGATED TO THE CITY MANAGER PER THE STATUTE THAT I WAS REFERENCING, THAT THE STATE MADE A CHANGE TO THE ABILITY TO, UM, AUTHORIZE CHANGE ORDERS UP TO $50,000, WHICH WAS, UM, CONSISTENT WITH THE, THE STATE CODE.
SINCE THAT TIME, SINCE 2013, UM, WE AS STAFF AND SINCE STAFF BROUGHT THE RESOLUTION TO COUNSEL, WE, UH, FELT COMFORTABLE THAT THE INTENT OF THAT RESOLUTION WAS THAT COUNSEL WAS DELEGATING THE AUTHORITY FOR THAT CHANGE ORDER TO MAKE CHANGE ORDERS, UH, FOR ANY CONTRACT, NOT NECESSARILY A PUBLIC BID THAT, UH, CHAPTER 2 52 OF THE STATE, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE DEALT WITH.
SO SINCE 2013 FORWARD, UM, WE HAVE OPERATED AS, UH, THE CITY MANAGER UNDER THAT RESOLUTION HAD THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE INDIVIDUAL CHANGE ORDERS, UM, UP TO $50,000, BUT IN NO CASE EXCEEDING 25% OF THE CONTRACT, SO THAT THAT WOULD APPLY TO, UH, A MILLION DOLLAR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT OR A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR $500,000 ENGINEERING CONTRACT.
UM, THE, THE STATE CLARIFIED CHAPTER 2 52 TO SAY THAT AUTHORITY ONLY DEALT WITH COMPETITIVELY BID PROJECTS.
SO IT LEFT ALONE ALL THE OTHER, UH, TYPES OF, OF, UM, CONTRACTS THAT CITIES CAN ENTER INTO.
SO CITIES WERE NOT LIMITED, UH, ON HOW YOU DELEGATE THAT CHANGE ORDER AUTHORITY.
SO, UM, I CAN KEEP GOING IF YOU NEED ME,
WE HAVE OTHER THINGS ON THE AGENDA TOO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON TO AND COME BACK.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, SO THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDINANCE WE'LL DO.
UH, IT ALSO BROUGHT TO LIGHT A VERY OLD ORDINANCE
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THAT, UH, IS WAY OUTDATED.IT, UH, AND THIS ORDINANCE WILL CORRECT, UM, THAT, THAT THE LIMIT OF THE CITY MANAGER WAS $5,000.
SO THIS CL UH, THAT IS REALLY OLD AND THAT, UH, CLARIFIES, UH, CLEARS THAT ORDINANCE UP.
BUT WE STAND READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR SOUNDS GOOD, THANK YOU.
SO, SO THIS, OR, SO IS THIS SOMETHING WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO OR IS THIS SOMETHING WE WE'RE CHOOSING TODAY? UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CHOOSING TO DO THE, BUT WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP THAT PREVIOUS PIECE REGARDLESS, RIGHT? IT WOULD BE VERY RESTRICTIVE IF WE LIMITED THE CITY MANAGER TO, UH, $5,000 ON THE, UH, CONTRACT.
AND IS THIS MORE RESTRICTIVE OR LESS RESTRICTIVE ON THE CITY MANAGER? THIS IS, UH, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE, UM, DONE UP TO THIS POINT.
UM, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE COULD GO ANY MORE THAN WHAT IS PROPOSED.
THE CITY CHARTER, THE INTERPRETATION OF THE CITY CHARTER'S, UM, PURCHASING GRANT OF AUTHORITY TO THE CITY MANAGER IS, IS UP TO THAT COMPETITIVE BID AMOUNT, 50,000, SO, MM-HMM.
AND SO, SO THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE, OF THE, I GUESS THE AGGREGATE ON A PROJECT WOULD BE IS THAT YOU CAN'T COME BACK WITH LIKE 15 CHANGE ORDERS OF $49,000 SO THAT YOU CAN BASICALLY SUBVERT THE, THE, UH, THE RULE.
IS THAT KIND OF THE REASONING WHY THEY HAVE THE PERCENTAGE ON THE PROJECT? OH, THE, I I WOULD NOT DARE TO SPEAK FOR THE STATE ON THE
UH, BUT I, I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT YES, THAT THERE IS A, AGAIN, THAT STATUTE THAT STARTED ALL OF THIS, UM, HAS BEEN CLARIFIED TO, TO DEAL WITH COMPETITIVE LEAD BID STATUTE.
SO THE GUIDANCE IN SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, MUNICIPAL PUBLICATIONS IS IF YOU AWARD A MILLION DOLLAR STREET PROJECT, YOU CAN MAKE CHANGE ORDERS UP TO 25%.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO KEEP GOING, YOU NEED TO START OVER AND, AND DO IT.
SOMETHING HAS GONE WRONG THAT THAT'S NOT THE SAME PROJECT.
FROM, FROM SOMEBODY DOING 49,000.
BUT, BUT TO CLARIFY, SO BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF THE CONFUSION THAT THAT CITY STAFF HAD HAD, IS, IS THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY 50,000 PER CHANGE ORDER, WHICH IT IS AND HAS BEEN SINCE 2013? OR IS IT, UM, CUMULATIVE CHANGE ORDERS UP TO $50,000.
AND SINCE 2013, IT'S BEEN EACH CHANGE ORDER STANDS ON ITS OWN FEET.
IS IT $50,000 OR LESS? THE ONLY LIMIT IS WHEN THE COMBINED NUMBER OF CHANGE ORDERS ON THAT CONTRACT REACHED 25%.
SO IF IT WERE A A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS CONTRACT THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED, THE CITY MANAGER WOULD BE LIMITED TO 25,000.
THE NEXT ONE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO CITY, UH, CITY COUNCIL.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
YOU READY TO GO BACK TO ITEM 26? I BELIEVE I AM.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCDONALD'S IS ACCUSING HIMSELF AND, AND CLARIFICATION, THE REQUEST IS WHETHER A PERSON WHO'S A, A PRECINCT OFFICER OF A POLITICAL PARTY YES.
WHETHER THAT'S A PUBLIC OFFICE BECAUSE THEY'RE ELECTED ON A COUNTY BALLOT.
THAT IS A LEGITIMATE FORM OF LEGAL RESEARCH.
BUT WHAT, BUT THERE'S A, A RECENT TE TEXAS ETHICS COMMISSION ADVISORY, UH, OPINION, THEY CONSTRUE REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT KIND OF CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO FILE, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND THEY HAD TO LOOK AT THE ISSUE OF WHETHER A CANDIDATE FOR A PRECINCT CHAIR IS A PUBLIC OFFICE.
AND THE, THE OPINION THERE IS THAT THEY ARE NOT OKAY.
THAT IT'S NOT A PUBLIC OFFICE.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A POLITICAL PARTY'S DIFFERENT THAN BEING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OF A CITY ON A COMMISSION OR SOMETHING THAT DRIVES SOMETHING FORWARD.
SO WE SHOULDN'T PENALIZE PEOPLE THAT ARE PRECINCT CHAIRS.
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BECAUSE IT'S ON A COUNTY BALLOT, IT'S NOT LIKE BEING A PTA PRESIDENT.SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
UM, COUNSEL, DOES ANYBODY CARE? WHO'S TWO AND THREE? THREE? OH, THERE WE GO.
I DON'T THINK WE DECIDE THAT THOUGH.
WHAT'S THAT? CITY MANAGERS? YOU DECIDE THAT? YEAH, HE'S, SO YOU CAN DECIDE THAT.
I DON'T THINK WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO CARE ABOUT THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE CARE ABOUT, WE'RE JUST APPROVING THE NAMES.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE NAMES.
MOTION AND SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I HAD ONE DISCUSSION.
I DIDN'T BEAT YOU TO THE THING.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY TO THE CHIEF WHEREVER HE WENT, OH NO.
'CAUSE THOSE WERE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD AND YOU WALKED THROUGH VERY GOOD.
THAT MADE EVERYTHING CLEAR FOR ME, SO I'M GOOD.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[28. Council Member Future Agenda Items [Any deliberation of or decision about the subject of the inquiry shall be limited to a proposal to place the subject on the agenda for a subsequent meeting.]]
RIGHT.ITEM 28, COUNCIL MEMBER, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ANY DELIBERATION OF OR DECISION ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF THE INQUIRY SHALL BE LIMITED TO A PROPOSAL TO PLACE THE SUBJECT ON THE AGENDA FOR A SUBSEQUENT MEETING.
OH, I'M GOING DOWN THE LINE LIKE IT'S CLOSING COMMENTS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING?
I MISSED ONE MEETING AND I'M ALL OUT OF ALL RIGHT.
[29. Council Member Closing Statements.]
ITEM 29, EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE COUNCIL MEMBER CLOSING COMMENTS NOW WE'LL GO TO PLACE ONE.AND, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO CELEBRATING THE 3RD OF JULY OR CELEBRATING THE 4TH OF JULY ON THE 3RD OF JULY.
PLACE TO, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE, UH, LEANDER PARKS ARTS AND CULTURE COMMISSION FOR THE JUNETEENTH FESTIVAL.
I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO ATTENDING THE, UH, LIBERTY FEST, AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY ELSE TO DO THAT.
YES, PLEASE DO, UH, ECHO THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER MICHAEL HERRERA, PLEASE DO
AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE, UH, LIBERTY FEST HERE ON JULY 3RD, AND HOPEFULLY, UH, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT.
LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT BANDS.
AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT HANGING OUT HERE FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS.
IN GUESS YOU'LL MAKE IT OFFICIAL NEXT MEETING.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT FOR JUNETEENTH.
IT WAS A, I TOLD SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE ASKED ME ABOUT IT.
IT'S WAS GREAT TO SEE THE CHANGE FROM YEAR ONE TO YEAR TWO TO YEAR THREE, AND HOW EXCITED PEOPLE WERE TO COME OUT.
THEY BROUGHT THEIR LAWN CHAIRS AND I WAS LIKE, OH, PEOPLE ARE DOING THEIR OWN THING LISTENING TO THE MUSIC.
I, I WOULD'VE NEVER THOUGHT TO DO THAT.
AND PEOPLE JUST HAD AN AMAZING TIME.
SO ALL OF THE FEEDBACK THAT I GOT WAS AMAZING FROM WHAT THE PARK STAFF DID TO GET EVERYTHING SET UP TO THE BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT, TO HAVING THE POOL AVAILABLE AT NO COST FOR PEOPLE DURING THE EVENT.
TO ALL THE VENDORS THAT SET UP IN THE BAND, AND ESPECIALLY TO, UM, THE PUBLIC ARTS AND CULTURE COMMISSION.
THEY PUT LOTS OF HOURS OF WORK, UM, ALONG WITH PARKS AND REC INTO MAKING THAT EVENT.
SO THANK Y'ALL FOR ALL OF THE WORK ON THAT.
UM, AS ALWAYS, WE LIKE TO SHOP LOCAL.
AND SO TONIGHT FOR DINNER WE PICKED UP SOUTHERN'S PIZZA.
SOUTHERN'S HAS BEEN AROUND IN LEANDER FOR YEARS.
IF YOU HAVE NOT HAD THEM, YOU HAVE TO CHECK THEM OUT.
WE ALWAYS ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY IN LEANDER TO THINK OF LEANDER FIRST WHEN YOU ARE OUT SHOPPING, DINING, DOING ALL OF THE THINGS.
SPEND YOUR MONEY HERE IN LEANDER AND KEEP OUR LOCAL ECONOMY GOING.
KEEP TAXES FLOWING INTO THE CITY TO PAY FOR ALL OF THE WONDERFUL PARKS PROGRAMS THAT YOU HEARD ABOUT EARLIER TONIGHT.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ISSUED A PROCLAMATION IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS FOR PRIDE MONTH.
AND THEN TONIGHT ON MY COMMENTS, STICK WITH ME.
I HAVE LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS OF THANKS, UM, TO GO AROUND.
SO I MISSED LAST MEETING AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR, UM, HAVING A VERY SMOOTH, EASY TO WATCH MEETING.
AND THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS FOR STEPPING IN AND BEING ME.
LESS PRESSURE THAN LAST TIME YOU DID IT
UM, BUT UH, ALSO BIG THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK AT OLD TOWN STREET FESTIVAL AND JUNETEENTH, AND THANK YOU TO PUBLIC ARTS AND CULTURE COMMISSION FOR JUNETEENTH AS WELL.
THIS WAS THE BEST ONE SO FAR, HANDS DOWN, LIKE IT HAS GROWN SO TREMENDOUSLY IN JUST THREE YEARS.
AND THEN, UM, THANK YOU TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF.
UM, A LOT OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE WATER MAIN BREAK THAT A CONTRACTOR DID EARLIER THIS WEEK, AND THE TURNAROUND ON THAT WAS INCREDIBLE, UM, WITH STAFF WORKING, YOU KNOW, WELL INTO THE EARLY AM, UM, TO GET THAT FIXED IN THE NIGHT IN THE DARK.
UM, AND SO JUST THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
UM, AND THEN A BIG THANK YOU TO STAFF AND COUNSEL TONIGHT ON CONSENT.
WE HAD AN ORDINANCE CHANGE THAT IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART ABOUT, UH, ZONING
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FOR VAPE SHOPS AND MED SPAS, UM, STAFF.THE WRITING OF THAT ORDINANCE WAS SO VERY THOUGHTFUL AND, UM, I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH.
UM, AND, AND THAT WAS GREAT, COUNCIL.
I SAW YOUR DISCUSSION, UH, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND I WANTED TO THANK YOU, UM, ESPECIALLY COUNCIL MEMBER ZKO.
I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE YOU FOR YOUR, UM, YOUR VERY THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS ON THAT.
UM, AND SO THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH ME.
[30. Convene into Executive Session pursuant to:
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DOCKET NUMBER 5 3 0 6 3 PETITION BY OUTSIDE CITY RATE PAYERS APPEALING THE WATER RATES ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY OF LEANDRO, TEXAS.
AND NUMBER TWO, SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND SECTION 1 3 0 5, TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING CAUSE NUMBER 20 DASH 0 2 1 7 DASH C 4 25, DANIEL BROWN, MARIA BROWN, AND ZG PROPERTIES LLC VERSUS CITY OF LEANDER.
AND NUMBER THREE, SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 AND 5 5 1 0.087, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 1.05, TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO DELIBERATE PROPOSED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES FOR ONE OR MORE BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE, STAY, OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE TERRITORY OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY, AND IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS REGARDING PROJECT EDA DASH 24 DASH ZERO TWO AND NUMBER FOUR, SECTION 5 51 0.072, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES LOCATED IN THE ELIJAH D HARMON SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER SIX FOR A WATERLINE EASEMENTS AND TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT RELATING TO THE RM 2243 WATER MAIN PROJECT.
THE TIME IS 8:11 PM ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION TO TAKE ACTION AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE IN THE CITY COUNCIL'S DISCRETION REGARDING NUMBER ONE, PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION, DOCKET NUMBER 5 3 0 6 3, PETITION BY OUTSIDE CITY RATE PAYERS APPEALING THE WATER RATES ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY OF LEANDRO, TEXAS, MAYOR PERM.
DO WE, OH, ACTUALLY, JUST DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
ITEM NUMBER TWO, CAUSE NUMBER 20 DASH 0 2 7 DASH C 4 25.
DANIEL BROWN, MARIA BROWN, AND ZG PROPERTIES LLC VERSUS CITY OF LEANDER.
ACTION NUMBER THREE, PROJECT EDA DASH 24 DASH 0 0 2.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? NO ACTION.
AND NUMBER FOUR, ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES FOR WATERLINE EASEMENTS AND TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS RELATING TO THE RM 2243 WATER MAIN PROJECT.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES LOCATED IN THE ELIJAH D HARMON SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER SIX FOR WATERLINE EASEMENT AND TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT RELATING TO THE REM 2243 WATER MAIN PROJECT AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION SECOND MOTION, AND SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AND WITH THAT COUNSEL'S ADJOURNED AT 9:09 PM GOODNIGHT.