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          IT. 
          THE, THERE YOU GO. 
          NOW IT'S ALL, THANK YOU. 
          [1. Open Meeting ]
GOOD MORNING. 
          TODAY IS THE RETREAT MEETING OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL. 
          THE TIME IS 10:01 AM UM, THE MEETING IS OPEN. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON 
          [2. Roll Call ]
TO ROLL CALL. 
          MS. , DO YOU MIND CALLING ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CATHERINE BATTALION. 
          PARKER. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MICHAEL HERRERA. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM NICOLE THOMPSON. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS ER, COUNCIL MEMBER BECKY ROSS. 
          MAYOR CHRISTINE HERE. 
          QUORUM IS PRESENT. 
          CITY COUNCIL IS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS. 
          WE'LL MOVE INTO 
          [3. Discuss and provide direction to City staff regarding the FY2024-2025 Budget. ]
ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSS AND PROVIDE DIRECTION TO CITY STAFF REGARDING FISCAL YEAR 2024 TO 2025. 
          BUDGET, MR. CITY MANAGER, I BELIEVE THIS IS YOU. 
          UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, AND GOOD MORNING. 
          APPRECIATE EVERYBODY SPENDING YOUR FRIDAY WITH CITY STAFF. 
          THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL OCCASION. 
          SO, UM, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET AND MR. POWERS HAS BEEN TEACHING ME A LOT ABOUT BUDGET AND FINANCE, AND HE TAUGHT ME WHERE OH OH SEVEN KEEPS HIS MONEY IN THE BOND MARKET. 
          SO, SO THANK YOU MR. POWERS FOR, FOR KEEPING . 
          SO, UH, TODAY REALLY, UH, HAD STRUCTURED THIS AS THE REALLY KIND OF THE BEGINNING, A CORNERSTONE OF A LONGER CONVERSATION. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO COVER A LOT OF GROUND. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA START LOOKING AT WHERE WE ARE, UH, WITH THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET, AND THERE ARE SOME DISCUSSION POINTS AND, AND SOME POTENTIAL AVAILABLE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE AS REMAINDERS FROM THIS, UM, YEAR THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO COUNSEL. 
          SEE IF THERE'S SOME ONE TIME TYPES OF THINGS YOU WANNA PROGRAM WITH THOSE DOLLARS. 
          SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND THEN, UH, TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK, UH, AND THEN COME BACK. 
          UH, WE HAVE SOME COUNSEL, IT'LL BE COMING A LITTLE BIT LATER. 
          UM, SO WE CAN BEGIN THE DISCUSSION OF A VISION. 
          AND I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE IF THIS IS A RETREAD OF THINGS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE, UH, FAIRLY RECENTLY. 
          BUT IT'S REALLY TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THE COUNCIL VISION IS FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND THE DIRECTION OF WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. 
          ULTIMATELY WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK AND REEVALUATE AND MAYBE CREATE A NEW VISION STATEMENT THAT BEGINS TO ENCAPSULATE SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE DO TODAY. 
          UH, Y'ALL HAD PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION, WHICH WE'LL GO BACK AND RECAP, UH, ONCE WE KINDA GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXERCISE A LITTLE BIT LATER TODAY. 
          UM, UH, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT IS CRITICAL AS WE THINK ABOUT MANAGING OUR GROWTH AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY, REALLY GET INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          WHERE ARE WE GOING STRUCTURALLY WITH THE CITY, UH, FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY FROM A NEAR TERM AND LONGER TERM PERSPECTIVE? UM, AND THEN WHAT ARE THE PROCESSES WE'RE GONNA DO TO TRY TO GET THERE? UM, THAT LEADS INTO DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TYPES OF CAPITAL, UH, INVESTMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER IN TERMS OF IDENTIFIED PROJECTS THAT ARE THERE THROUGH VARIOUS STUDIES AND PLANS AND PROGRAMS. UM, SO WE DO NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF STRATEGIES ON TRYING TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN DEVELOP THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO, TO MANAGE THOSE PARTICULAR ISSUES. 
          AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S OTHER SPECIFIC AREAS THAT Y'ALL BROUGHT UP IN TERMS OF WANTING TO HAVE SOME DIALOGUE ON SPECIFIC ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT MAY NOT BE ENCOMPASSED IN THESE CONVERSATIONS IN ADDITION TO SOME REGIONAL CONTEXT, UH, ISSUES AND CONCEPTS FOR THE CITY. 
          SO THAT'S WE HAVE LAID OUT FOR US TODAY. 
          UM, SO THAT SOUND LIKE A GOOD EFFECTIVE PLAN. 
          SO, UH, WE ARE HOPING TO GET EVERYBODY OUT BEFORE MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S OUR OBJECTIVE AND WE'RE GOOD TO STICK WITH THAT. 
          SO, UH, HAD A QUICK LITTLE INTRO, JUST KIND OF WANTED TO WALK THROUGH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT'S COMING, I PROMISE. 
          IT'S THERE. 
          THIS WILL BE A LITTLE SYNAPSIS OF THE, UH, HISTORICAL, UH, INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE. 
          WRITE IN YOUR PACKETS, AND I APOLOGIZE THERE WERE SOME TYPOS AND A COUPLE OF THOSE SLIDES. 
          SO, UH, IT'S MY FAULT. 
          NO SIGNAL. 
          AND THAT'S A BLUE SCREEN. 
          THAT'S USUALLY NOT A GOOD 
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SIGN THOUGH, . 
          IT IS. 
          IT REALLY IS. 
          I, THERE WE GO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, DARA. 
          SO AGAIN, YOU'D SEEN THESE SLIDES BEFORE AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE IN THE VERY, UH, EARLY PART OF IS STARTING TO DO OUR DATA MINING, UH, WITH THE OBJECTIVE ULTIMATELY OF PULLING TOGETHER THAT, UH, FISCAL FORECAST AND MODELING THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW. 
          BUT ONE OF THE CRITICAL THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS WHAT HAS BEEN THE HISTORICAL AV GROWTH THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE CITY OVER TIME? AND SO THESE ARE COMING FROM YOUR TAX ROLES AND YOUR, YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. 
          UM, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF THE, THE QUESTION, THE OVERALL NUMBER. 
          BUT WHERE IS THAT BASE BEING GENERATED? UM, AND WHERE DO WE THEN HAVE OPPORTUNITIES OR NEEDS THAT KIND OF EVOLVE FROM THERE? AND NOT SURPRISINGLY, WHAT YOU FIND IS THAT THE LION'S SHARE OF THE CITY'S AV, YOU KNOW, EVEN FOR THIS YEAR IS, YOU KNOW, PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND SO, UH, THAT'S GOOD IN ONE HAND, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE GROWTH, WE HAVE POPULATION, WE'RE CREATING MARKETS AND RETAIL AND OTHER KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES. 
          UM, BUT IT ALSO CREATES ENERGY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HARNESS AND POTENTIALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. 
          BUT IT DOES BEGIN TO BE THE QUESTION ABOUT OUR POLICIES AND WHAT OUR DESIRE BALANCES ARE MOVING FORWARD, AND HOW WE MOVE TOWARDS A VISION OF FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY. 
          UM, ON THIS PARTICULAR GRAPH, REALLY THE ONE TO ME THAT'S MOST CRITICAL IS THE ONE ON THE RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE KIND OF SEEING THE HISTORICAL CHANGE OR GROWTH IN, UM, THE PROPERTY TAX ASSESSMENTS. 
          UM, AND SO WHAT YOU BEGIN TO SEE AS YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT OF THE CHART, ONCE YOU GET INTO THE MORE FULLY BUILT OUT ELEMENT OR SIGNIFICANTLY LEVEL OF BUILT OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU BEGIN TO SEE, UH, WHAT REALLY APPEARS TO BE A SIX TO SEVEN YEAR KIND OF ECONOMIC CYCLE. 
          AND SO THAT'S A CRITICAL THING THAT, AS I MENTIONED IN THE SUMMARY, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT AND BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT AND MODEL, BECAUSE OVERALL, WE MAY BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO SEE CONTINUED GROWTH IN AV, BUT THERE'S CERTAIN LEVELS AND, AND POTENTIAL TRENDS THAT WE'LL SEE THAT MAY CREATE TROUGHS. 
          AND WE JUST NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT AND LOOK AT THAT AND FIGURE OUT HOW DEEP THOSE KINDS OF THINGS GO. 
          UM, THIS GRAPH ON THE RIGHT REALLY INTRIGUED ME, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE THINGS, THEY'RE KIND OF, OKAY, YOU CAN SEE DIFFERENT TRENDS, BUT DO WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN 2006 AND 2009? BECAUSE THOSE LOOK LIKE THEY, THEY DON'T FIT ANY OF THE TRENDS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THOSE ARE PERIODS WHERE YOU'VE HIT SOME OF THOSE RECESSIONARY CYCLES, RIGHT? SO WE'VE HAD MAJOR RECESSIONS IN THOSE PERIODS. 
          AND WHEN YOU SEE 2009, UH, THAT'S WHEN WE HAD THE GREAT RECESSION THAT HAPPENED IN OH NINE, RIGHT? SO I WAS THINKING IT WOULD GO DOWN, BUT INSTEAD IT'S, IT'S KIND OF STEADY, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU HAD, YOU ALREADY HAD DEVELOPMENT IN PROCESS, THINGS WERE IN THE WORKS, INVESTMENTS WERE THERE, PROJECTS WERE UNDERWAY. 
          AND SO, UM, SO THE CITY WAS FORTUNATE THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO, TO SEE SOME SUSTAINED GROWTH THAT BRIDGED YOU THROUGH THAT, THAT PERIOD, OKAY? IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER CITIES, THEY TANKED. 
          OKAY? UM, AND, AND SO THEY WERE DEALING WITH THAT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. 
          SO YOU HAD MOMENTUM, YOU HAD ENERGY GOING, THERE WAS ALREADY STUFF IN PROCESS, BUT YOU CAN SEE AT THE TAIL END WHERE THEY RAN OUT YEAH. 
          AND IT DROPPED. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          APP VALUE, LIKE RIGHT NOW WE'RE UNDER, HOW LONG DO WE ACTUALLY GET THE TAXABLE AMOUNT UP THE APP, MY HOUSE? SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          THAT'S ONE QUESTION. 
          THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE IS HOW MUCH IS THAT NUMBER THAT WAS PROJECT HERE BASED ON THIS NEW GROWTH? THAT'S JUST TWO PARTS, RIGHT? WELL, SO, SO I'LL, I'LL ANSWER THE BACK IN FIRST, UM, FOR MR. POWERS TO ANSWER HOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MARKET VALUE AND THE TAXABLE VALUE ON THE, THE APPRAISAL ROLE, BUT THIS COUNTS THE TOTAL AV CHANGE FOR THE CITY. 
          SO THIS IS CUMULATIVE OF 
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MARKET VALUE GROWTH, UM, FOR PROPERTIES THAT WERE ON THE TAX ROLL FOR THE PRIOR TAX YEAR, IN ADDITION TO NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT ADDED VALUE TO THE TAX ROLL. 
          SO THIS SHOWS YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMBINATION, THE ADDITION OF BOTH OF THOSE IMPACTS TO YOUR AV, THIS IS STILL WHAT THE TREND LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE RATE BY WHICH YOUR AV GROWTH IN THAT TIME PERIOD. 
          UM, SO ON THE, UH, AS FAR AS BUDGET GOES, WE ONLY LOOK AT THE TAXABLE VALUES. 
          SO IF, IF THAT WAS PART OF THE QUESTION, BUT IN TERMS OF THE, THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, STATE LAW SAYS THAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS TO APPRAISE YOUR HOUSE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF MARKET. 
          SO IF THEY APPRAISE IT AT $500,000 ONE YEAR, AND THE NEXT YEAR THEY APPRAISE IT AT A MILLION, THE APPRAISAL IS A MILLION, BUT THE TAXABLE VALUE FOR ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT CAN ONLY INCREASE A MAXIMUM OF 10% ON RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEAD. 
          SO YOUR TAX BILL THE NEXT YEAR WOULD BE BASED ON 550,000. 
          AND THEN ASSUMING THE YEAR AFTER, UH, IT'S STILL VALUED AT A MILLION, IT WOULD GO TO IT 605,000. 
          AND SO, UM, NOW WHAT WE'VE SEEN, UH, SOMEWHAT THIS YEAR IS THAT, UM, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN VALUES WENT WAY UP, HOMESTEADS WERE GETTING THE 10% EACH YEAR, BUT IN SOME CASES THERE'S A RE A DOWN DOWNWARD EVALUATION FROM MARKET. 
          SO THERE'S NOT THAT FULL 10% BETWEEN THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THE MARKET WAS GOING DOWN WHILE THEY'RE STILL GOING UP. 
          BUT STATE LAW SAYS 10%, UH, THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION DID MAKE ANOTHER ADJUSTMENT FOR NON-HOMESTEAD PROPERTIES. 
          IT'S A FORMULA THAT, UM, HONESTLY, LIKE, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, NON-HOMESTEAD PROPERTIES. 
          IT'S NOT 10%, BUT THEY DO HAVE SOME FORMULA NOW THAT LIMITS A NON-RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEAD PROPERTY. 
          IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE MARKET VALUE, BUT IT DOES CHANGE THE AMOUNT THAT IT CAN INCREASE IN ANY ONE YEAR. 
          SO, BUT IN TERMS OF BUDGETING, WE LOOK AT JUST WHAT'S THE, THE TAXABLE VALUE MINUS ALL THE EXEMPTIONS VALUE ON THAT. 
          THAT'S NOT A HARD ATTACK RIGHT NOW. 
          YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          THAT'S, YEAH. 
          AND WHEN WE KIND OF BEGIN TO FORECAST THIS OUT AND LOOK OUT THOSE FACTORS WILL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          AND YEAH, AS WE'RE CREATING THOSE MODELS, THERE'S SOME CORE TOUGH ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE'LL BRING BACK TO COUNCIL FOR JUST VERIFICATION OR VALIDATION AND, UM, , THOSE RECESSIONARY TYPES OF TRENDS WERE THINGS THAT WE'LL FACTOR IN. 
          SO WHAT DO WE EXPECT THE, UH, PERCENT OF GROWTH TO BE? AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS FORTUNATE IS WE HAVE SOME HISTORICAL DATA WE CAN GO BACK AND RELY ON TO BEGIN TO KIND OF LOOK AT KIND OF TRENDS AND KIND OF HOW WE MAYBE WANNA MODEL THAT OUT OVER TIME. 
          AND SO THAT'S ALLOW US TO GET THAT 20 YEAR LOOK AHEAD, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT DO WE THINK OVER TIME? UM, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GONNA BE EBBS AND FLOWS IN THAT PROCESS. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, OVERALL, HOPEFULLY THERE'S A NET POSITIVE TREND IF NOT, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF, A LOT OF CHALLENGES, YOU KNOW, CONFRONTING US. 
          UM, SO THAT'LL BE FACTORED IN AND WE'LL BE PRESENTING THAT TO YOU AS WE'RE MATURING THOSE MODELS AND BRINGING THOSE FORWARD. 
          UM, QUICK HOUSEKEEPING UPDATE COUNSEL, IF YOU'LL, UM, WHENEVER YOU'RE COMMUNICATING OR GIVING FEEDBACK, IF YOU'LL BRING THAT MIC CLOSE TO YOU AND ON, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S GREEN. 
          IF IT'S ON AND IT'S RED, IF IT'S OFF, YOU CAN PUSH IT ON AND OFF WHENEVER YOU'RE TALKING, IT'LL HELP WITH THE LIVESTREAM. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MU. 
          AND AGAIN, THE, THESE JUST KIND OF REFLECT THE SAME THINGS SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE OVERALL, UM, GENERAL REVENUE TRENDS, UH, THE PURPLE GRAPH, UM, AND THIS IS TOTAL REVENUES COMING IN. 
          SO THIS WOULD INCLUDE POTENTIAL, UH, YOU KNOW, CASH ALLOCATIONS THAT THERE'S OTHER, UH, SOURCES OF FUNDS THAT ARE TRANSFERRED IN THAT, THAT COVER PART OF THAT. 
          SO THAT'S ONE REASON WHY YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE SPIKES. 
          BUT IT'S REALLY KINDA LOOKING AT THE OVERALL TREND, WHICH IS CONTINUED KIND 
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OF A STEADY GROWTH PROCESS. 
          UM, THE WATER IS KIND OF INTERESTING 'CAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE WATER IS IMPACTED BY ACTUAL CONSUMPTION AS WELL. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE LESS WATER USED THEN THE LOWER OUR REVENUES LOOK, YOU KNOW, IN THAT PROCESS. 
          SO THAT, THAT TREND KIND OF SHOWS YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE WEATHERING EFFECT COULD BE ON THE, UH, CITY'S, UH, REVENUE CYCLE ON THE WATER SIDE. 
          . 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FINALLY JUST LAST THING TO HIGHLIGHT IS WE ARE LOOKING AT A SUSTAINED LEVEL OF GROWTH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AS WE LOOK INTO THIS, UH, FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET. 
          UM, SO, UH, AGAIN, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN PROBABLY ABOUT A THOUSAND OR SO NEW UNITS OCCUPIED IN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. 
          AND SO WE DO SEE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A CONSISTENT LEVEL OF PERMITTING ACTIVITY, UM, ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, WHICH WOULD CONTINUE TO GROW. 
          AND IF YOU CAN, I GO BACK AND LOOK AT A FORECAST OF WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN TO THE CITY THROUGH THE END OF 25, THAT PUTS YOU A LITTLE BIT OVER 90,000 IN TERMS OF POPULATION, UH, THAT YOU WOULD ACHIEVE BY THE END OF, UH, THE 25, UH, FISCAL YEAR. 
          SO WITH THAT, I WILL NOW BE QUIET UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          AND SO WE CAN GET DOWN TO THE STAR OF THE MORNING. 
          MR. POWERS, YOU ARE. 
          THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY CAME TO SEE, SIR. 
          IT OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, SO OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE GONNA PRESENT, UH, TODAY IS PRELIMINARY. 
          UM, STILL WORKING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FINAL, UM, DECISIONS FOR THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          UH, WE DO HAVE THE CERTIFIED ROLES FROM TRAVIS AND WILLIAMSON APPRAISAL DISTRICT. 
          SO, UH, THE NUMBERS THAT YOU WILL SEE IN TERMS OF TAX BASE AND, UM, ESTIMATED TAX REVENUE ARE, ARE BASED ON THOSE. 
          SO WITH THAT, UM, THIS IS A SHORTER VIEW, JUST THE, THE PREVIOUS THREE YEARS, THE CURRENT YEAR AND, AND NEXT YEAR'S PROPOSED. 
          BUT, UM, THE BARS SHOW THE, UH, TAX BASE OVER THE LAST, UH, FIVE YEARS. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S, UH, NO SURPRISE BEEN, BEEN INCREASING. 
          UH, THE GREEN LINE SHOWS THE, UM, THE, THE TAX RATE AND NO SURPRISE THERE THAT AS YOUR TAX BASE GROWS, YOUR TAX RATE USUALLY DECLINES. 
          IT, UM, IT, IT CAN'T INCREASE IF, IF THE DEBT RATE IS GOING UP. 
          BUT, UH, UH, TYPICALLY IF EVERYTHING'S CONSTANT, THEN AS YOUR TAX BASE GETS BIGGER, UH, YOUR TAX RATE WILL FALL. 
          PART OF THAT IS DRIVEN BY THE STATE STATUTE ON HOW MUCH YOU CAN INCREASE YOUR PROPERTY TAX RATE. 
          UH, QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THIS YEAR VERSUS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          UH, FIRST ONE CAVEAT, WILLIAMSON COUNTY TAX OFFICE. 
          THEY WILL CALCULATE THE, UM, WORKSHEETS, THE OFFICIAL WORKSHEETS THAT, THAT ALL ENTITIES HAVE TO WORK THROUGH TO COME UP WITH THEIR NO NEW REVENUE RATE AND THEIR VOTER APPROVED RATE, AND ALL THOSE OTHER FANCY TERMS THAT, UH, THE LEGISLATURE HAS US USE. 
          BUT, UH, THE PRELIMINARY TAX RATES ARE, UM, OUR ESTIMATES OF WHAT THOSE NUMBERS WILL BE, AND HOPEFULLY THEY'RE 
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CONSERVATIVE, MEANING THAT TO COME NEXT COUNCIL MEETING NEXT WEEK WHEN WE HAVE THE FINAL VALUES TO PRESENT TO YOU, YOU, YOU MAY HAVE SOME MORE ROOM ON THE, UH, OPERATING SIDE. 
          M AND O IS MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. 
          INS IS INTERESTED SINKING, BUT WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF, UH, TAXABLE VALUES, UM, AND OUR EXISTING OUTSTANDING DEBT, UH, WE WE'RE LOOKING AT A CLOSE TO A TWO POINT HALF PERCENT DECREASE IN THE, IN THE TAX RATE. 
          UH, THIS IS A LITTLE BUSY CHART, BUT IT SHOWS YOU THE MAJOR CATEGORIES OF REVENUES THAT WE RECEIVED. 
          UM, BY FAR THE LARGEST BAR UP THERE IS, UH, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, PROPERTY TAXES, AND THEN ORANGE IS SALES TAX DEVELOPMENT FEES, FRANCHISE FEES, AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          AND THE ONE TAKEAWAY FROM THIS CHART IS, UH, AT LEAST IN THE GENERAL FUND, AND THIS IS ALL GENERAL FUND. 
          IN THE GENERAL FUND, THE, THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE IS, IS, UH, THE CATEGORY THAT'S BEEN INCREASING STEADILY EACH YEAR. 
          AND IT'S BY FAR THE CITY'S LARGEST SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UH, THE OTHER CATEGORIES ARE FAIRLY, UH, FLAT WITH UPS AND DOWNS. 
          QUICK QUESTION. 
          SO ON THE OTHER, CAN YOU JUST GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE LARGEST OTHER REVENUE SOURCE SOURCES ARE? UH, ONE WOULD BE, UM, UH, SOLID WASTE FEES, TRASH COLLECTION FEES, THE CITY BILLS FOR RESIDENTIAL TRASH. 
          AND THEN ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, IT'S PAID OUT TO, UM, UH, CLAUSE AND DISPOSAL. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S OVER $5 MILLION. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST OTHERS. 
          UH, WHAT'S NOT AND WHAT ELSE IS IN THERE? PARK AND RECREATION FEES, UH, TRANSFER IN FROM THE UTILITY FUND FOR OVERHEAD, AND THAT'S, UH, THE LARGEST, UH, HERE'S ANOTHER LOOK AT PROPERTY TAXES, SALES TAX AND DEVELOPMENT FEES TO JUST SHOW THAT, UM, WITH THE TAX BASE GROWTH, EVEN THOUGH THE PROPERTY TAX RATE HAS BEEN DECLINING, PROPERTY TAX REVENUES HAVE BEEN INCREASING, UH, BUT SALES TAX AND DEVELOPMENT FEES HAVE BEEN FLAT OR, UH, SLIGHTLY DECLINING. 
          NOW, I WILL SAY ON THE, I DO WANNA SAY ON THE DEVELOPMENT FEES, THAT WHAT THIS GRAPH DOESN'T SHOW IS THAT PRIOR TO 2021, DEVELOPMENT FEES WERE REALLY, UH, SPIKING. 
          SO THE, THE FLAT LINE FROM 23 TO 25 IS MORE IN LINE WITH, UM, MAYBE NORMAL COVID WAS A WEIRD TIME. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY. 
          HERE'S ANOTHER PICTURE OF REVENUES BY CATEGORY FOR THE FY 25 BUDGET WITH, UH, PERCENTAGES ATTACHED. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE PROPERTY TAXES ARE SLIGHTLY OVER 50% OF THE, UH, GENERAL FUND BUDGET. 
          UH, THEN WHERE DOES THE MONEY GO? HERE'S A, A GRAPH THAT SHOWS BY, YOU KNOW, MAJOR FUNCTION OF IN THE GENERAL FUND, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH IS POLICE AND FIRES, 43% PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH IS IN THE GENERAL FUND IS THE STREET DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT'S 10% DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS, UH, PLANNING AND, AND ENGINEERING, UM, PARKS LIBRARY SOLID WASTE. 
          THAT'S THE CATEGORY I JUST MENTIONED. 
          IT'S NOT A DEPARTMENT, BUT IT'S A MAJOR SOURCE OF WHERE FUNDS GO. 
          CIP 6%. 
          THIS CIP IS THE, THE AMOUNT IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          IT'S NOT ALL OF THE CIP THAT, UM, UH, COVERS ALL OF THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF PROJECT. 
          THIS, THIS JUST REPRESENTS THE, UH, AMOUNT TRANSFERRED FROM THE GENERAL FUND SURPLUS RESERVES PENDING YOUR APPROVAL AT BUDGET INTO A, WHAT WE CALL THE GENERAL CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND. 
          AND THEN ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES IS, UH, EVERYONE ELSE FROM THE CITY MANAGERS, CITY SECRETARY, FINANCE, IT, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SO KIND OF THE INSIDE DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND IN TERMS OF, UH, WHAT MAKES UP THE MAJOR CATEGORIES WITHIN THOSE BUDGETS, IT'S NO SURPRISE THAT PERSONNEL IS, IS THE LARGEST EXPENSE IN, UH, IN BUDGETS. 
          AND 
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MY EYES ARE BAD. 
          IS THAT 59%? I KNOW IT'S OVER 50%. 
          OKAY. 
          , UM, HERE'S ANOTHER GRAPH THAT SHOWS PERSONNEL COSTS TRENDING OVER TIME. 
          OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, IT'S BEEN A STEADY INCREASE AS WE'VE ADDED, UM, PERSONNEL, BUT IT'S NOT ONE FOR ONE. 
          UH, LAST YEAR WE DID, DID NOT, UM, ADD, UM, MANY POSITIONS AT ALL, UH, DUE TO THE UNCERTAINTY OF WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH DEVELOPMENT FEES AND OTHER THINGS. 
          AND THEN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, HAS, UM, MORE TYPICAL ADDITION OF FTES. 
          I THINK IT'S 23, WE'LL GET TO THAT SLIDE. 
          SO IT'S JUST THE SAME GRAPH EXCEPT, UH, COMPARING THE NUMBER OF FTES BY, UH, POPULATION GROWTH OVER TIME, AND SEEMS TO MAKE RELATIVELY RELATIVE SENSE. 
          THIS CHART IS BUSY, BUT IT, IT, IT SHOWS YOU THE PROPORTION OF EXPENDITURES BY MAJOR CATEGORY IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UH, THE BIG, UH, THE BLACK LINE OR BAR IS THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND. 
          UH, THESE ARE POSITIONS, TOTAL POSITIONS. 
          SO, UH, NEXT YEAR'S PROPOSED FTES IS 397 FULL-TIME, UH, EQUIVALENT POSITIONS. 
          BUT THEN YOU CAN SEE THE DISTRIBUTION OF WHERE THOSE, UH, POSITIONS ARE. 
          UM, NOW, UH, IN PUBLIC SAFETY THAT IS INCLUDES, UM, UH, CIVILIAN POSITIONS AS WELL, BUT IT'S IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, SO IN TERMS OF THE NEW POSITIONS IN THE PRELIMINARY CITY MANAGER'S, UH, BUDGET, UH, THESE ARE THE NEW POSITIONS IN THE, IN THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET. 
          UM, THE ONLY ONE, LET'S SEE IF THIS WORKS. 
          UH, WHERE'S PARKS PART-TIME ADJUSTMENT OF FOUR FTES THAT IS RELATED TO, UM, THEY, THOSE ARE NOT NEW POSITIONS, BUT WE'VE DISCOVERED THAT WITH THE INCREASE IN USE OF PART-TIME AND SEASONAL HELP, UH, IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS, UM, THEIR, THEIR PROGRAMS ARE USING MORE, UH, PART-TIME HELP AND SEASONAL HELP THAN WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED. 
          UM, UH, NOW WHEN YOU THROW IN THE ISSUE OF VACANCIES AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE THINGS KIND OF GET MASKED OVER TIME. 
          SO IT, IT HADN'T CREATED A BUDGET ISSUE, BUT, UM, WE, WE RECONCILED THAT THIS YEAR. 
          AND, UH, SO THAT'S A FOUR OF THOSE 23 ARE NOT NEW POSITIONS. 
          SO IF YOU WERE JUST REALLY COMPARING THIS YEAR TO NEXT YEAR IN TERMS OF NEW, NEW BODIES, IT WOULD BE, UH, 19 POSITIONS. 
          AND, UH, THAT COST, OOPS, THAT WAS NOT GOOD. 
          WHAT'D THAT DO? WELL, I KNOW HOW TO GET, WHAT, WHAT THAT DID I HAVE A QUESTION WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT? YES. 
          WHAT IS THE GROWTH RATE OF FTE YEAR OVER YEAR, UM, FOR US, COMPARED TO WHAT OUR LAKE NEIGHBORS HAVE? IS THAT EVER CONSIDERED WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS, I KNOW IT'S BASED ON WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT'S IN OUR BUDGET. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT ARE WE EVER LOOKING AT WHAT DO OTHER CITIES OF SIMILAR SIZE NEED TO OPERATE AND RUN AND BE EFFICIENT? AND ARE WE, ARE WE IN THAT RANGE BASED ON WHAT OUR, OUR GROWTH RATE OF FT IS? SO I BELIEVE THE, THE REAL ANSWER IS NO, THAT WE'RE NOT, WHILE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET EVALUATING NEEDS, IT'S NOT A, IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A FINANCE THING. 
          AND, AND THE CITY MANAGER REVIEWS ALL THE SUPPLEMENT REQUESTS. 
          SO I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR, UH, FOR MR. PARTON OR, OR PREVIOUS CITY MANAGERS. 
          I DO KNOW MANY YEARS 
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AGO, THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER WOULD SHOW COUNCILS, UM, HOW WE STACK UP WITH, UM, A LIST OF 10 OR OTHER, UM, OTHER CITIES. 
          AND AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY SPEAKING FOR HIM, I THINK THE POINT WAS TO SHOW THAT WE ARE BEHIND OUR OTHER CITIES. 
          IT WASN'T NECESSARILY TO, TO DRILL DOWN INTO HOW DOES FIRE STAND UP TO ITS PEERS, POLICE TO ITS PEERS, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          IT WAS JUST IN A KIND OF OVERALL, IF YOU LOOK AT GENERAL FUND POSITIONS PER CAPITA WE'RE BEHIND. 
          UM, SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS NO, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN FINANCE. 
          HOW MANY POSITIONS DOES LEANDER FINANCE HAVE VERSUS ROUND ROCK? AND DOES THAT JUSTIFY MORE OR JUSTIFY, YOU KNOW, LESS SO IT LOOKS LIKE. 
          SO BASED ON THE NUMBERS, WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING 18 PEOPLE, 10 OF 'EM WILL BE IN PUBLIC SAFETY, FOUR AND PARKS, AND THEN FOUR BASICALLY IN KIND OF LOOKS LIKE MOVING PEOPLE AROUND AND, AND ADMIN AND PUBLIC WORK KIND OF SHIFTING THINGS AROUND AND ALL THAT. 
          AND SO, SO THOSE ARE NEW POSITIONS, SO IT'S NOT SHIFTING AROUND, BUT THOSE ARE NEW POSITIONS. 
          SO THE, THE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY PART, AS WITH THE GROWTH OF THE CITY, THAT'S THE PART THAT'S ACTUALLY AS A MORE ONE-TO-ONE RELATIONSHIP TO THE POPULATION VERSUS ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE PRODUCTIVITY AND GET MORE OUT ALL THAT. 
          SO YEAH, WE'LL SAY ON, ON THE STAFFING SIDE OF IT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE WILL BE PULLING TOGETHER IT, AND IT'S NOT AN OVERNIGHT PROCESS, IT'LL TAKE TIME. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY KINDA LOOKING AT COUNCIL PRIORITIES. 
          UM, WHERE DO Y'ALL SEE SERVICE LEVELS NEEDING TO GO? WHAT DEPARTMENTS OR OPERATIONS DO YOU WANNA PRIORITIZE? UM, SO WE'LL BE LOOKING TO, TO WORK WITH COUNCIL TO, TO DRILL DOWN AND GET DIRECTION IN TERMS OF THOSE TYPES OF PRIORITIES AND, AND DESIRES. 
          UM, THEN FROM THERE, UH, WE'LL BE WORKING AT A DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL TO BEGIN TO DEVELOP STAFFING PLANS AND STAFFING RESOURCING PLANS THAT WE CAN PRESENT TO YOU. 
          AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT IN, WE WILL HAVE A, A MULTI-YEAR LOOK AT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE UNDER CERTAIN GROWTH ASSUMPTIONS. 
          THEN WE'LL LOOK TO DEPLOY THAT OVER TIME AND MONEY AND OPPORTUNITY PROVIDED. 
          BUT ONE OF THE CRITICAL THINGS WITH THAT WILL BE WHAT THE EXPECTED PRODUCTIVITY OR OUTCOMES WILL BE IN TERMS OF DEPARTMENTAL OPERATIONS AND, AND KIND OF PROGRAM LEVELS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE. 
          SO WE DO NEED TO DIVE IN, WE'VE GOT TO DEVELOP THAT, AND THEN TO BEGIN TO, TO BUILD THAT OUT AND TO LOOK AT STRATEGICALLY WHERE WE NEED TO GO TO KEEP UP WITH THAT DEMAND. 
          I, I WILL ADD THAT I, IN MY OPINION, I, I BELIEVE THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY, THEY OPERATE AND THE STREET DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF MORE SUBDIVISIONS, BRING MORE STREETS AND, AND DETENTION PONDS. 
          THAT, THAT THERE IS SOME CORRELATION BETWEEN POPULATION GROWTH IN, IN THOSE, THOSE DEPARTMENTS AS AS WELL. 
          UM, I WILL WANT TO JUST BRING UP IN, IN PARKS IN PARTICULAR, THAT TWO POSITIONS ARE ADDED, UH, BUT ONLY, UH, FOR THE PARTIAL YEAR WITH THE, UM, OPENING OF THE SENIOR CENTER, WHICH WILL BE HOPEFULLY, UH, THIS TIME OR LATER NEXT, UH, FISCAL YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE BRINGING, UM, THE SUPERVISOR IN A, IN ONE OTHER POSITION ON BOARD MIDYEAR, BUT THOSE WILL BE FULL-TIME POSITIONS. 
          AND THEN, UM, CERTAINLY I THINK THERE'LL BE MORE STAFF TO, THAT'LL BE EVALUATED IN THE FY 26 BUDGET. 
          I'M SORRY, WHEN IS IT OPENING? I THINK IT'S NEXT YEAR. 
          THIS TIME NEXT YEAR. 
          THIS TIME NEXT YEAR. 
          'CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS SPRING. 
          OH, NOT, YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED LATE SPRING. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          IT COULD BE IN THE MAY TIMEFRAME, MAYBE AS EARLY AS APRIL, BUT PROBABLY MAY OR JUNE, EARLY JUNE. 
          OKAY. 
          IS WHAT WE'RE TARGET. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT GETS CLOSE. 
          YEAH. 
          MAYBE 8, 9, 10 MONTHS AWAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I DIDN'T WANT ANYONE TO HUNT US DOWN. 
          , THEY'RE VERY PASSIONATE. 
          THAT'S WHY I'M NOT IN PUBLIC INFORMATION. 
          IT WAS JUST, I THINK ROBIN WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE, IN YOUR PLANNER IS. 
          ACTUALLY, THAT WAS MY TYPO, BUT, UH, THAT'S A SENIOR PLANNER, SO LET'S GET OFF THAT. 
          SO, UH, THOSE WERE POSITIONS, HAPPY TO COME BACK TO ANY OF THOSE, UH, COUNCIL'S. 
          PLEASURE. 
          BUT, UM, UH, THIS LIST LOOKED BIGGER ON MY 
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SCREEN WHEN I WAS WORKING ON THESE SLIDES, BUT, SO SORRY FOR THE, THE, HOW SMALL THIS LOOKS. 
          BUT, UM, WITH NEW REQUESTS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE IN THE PRELIMINARY CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET, IT'S A LITTLE OVER $4.9 MILLION OF, OF NEW, UH, NEW COSTS. 
          SOME OF THESE ARE ONE TIME, WHETHER THEY MIGHT BE, UM, EQUIPMENT OR, UM, CONTRACTUAL SERVICES FOR ONE TIME PROJECTS WHERE THEY MIGHT, UH, HAVE A, UH, RECURRING COST IF, IF APPROVED. 
          UM, THE LAST ONE ON THE, THE LAST ONE ON THE LINE, UM, THAT $4.3 MILLION, THAT'S THE TRANSFER THAT I WAS MENTIONING IN THE OTHER SLIDE. 
          THE WAY WE FUND OUR, OUR, UH, WHAT WE CALL THE GENERAL CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, WHICH IS PROJECTS THAT ARE FUNDED WITH GENERAL FUNDS, NOT DEBT OR OTHER RESTRICTED FUNDS, IS WE LOOK AT, UH, WHAT OUR REQUIRED RESERVE BALANCE IS, WHICH BY THE CHARTER IS 25% IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          WE MAKE SURE THAT'S COVERED. 
          AND THEN WE FORECAST HOW MUCH ABOVE THAT WE ARE. 
          AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER DECIDES WHAT'S A, WHAT'S A, A GOOD OR SAFE AMOUNT TO TRANSFER OVER INTO, UH, THE GENERAL CAPITAL PROJECTS FUNDS. 
          AND, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A, IN A MINUTE. 
          BUT AT THIS POINT, THE CITY MANAGER HAS NOT ALLOCATED ALL OF THAT 4.3 MILLION. 
          HE'S, HE'S LOOKED THROUGH THE, THE PROJECTS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE ASKED FOR AND HAS, UH, CHECKED ABOUT HALF OF THAT. 
          SO I, SPEAKING FOR MR. PARTON, BUT I, I THINK HE MAY WANT SOME INPUT, UM, OR CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL ABOUT, UM, WHERE YOUR PRIORITIES MIGHT BE WITH, UH, SOME OF THOSE, UH, FUNDS. 
          AND THAT LEADS TO THAT SLIDE. 
          SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE REQUESTS THAT QUALIFY UNDER OUR BUDGETING POLICIES OF WHAT WE COULD USE ONE TIME FUNDS FOR. 
          UH, THERE'S NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT TO THIS LIST, IT'S JUST HOW WE OPERATE BUDGET WISE. 
          UM, SO AT THIS POINT, HE'S, UM, CHECK THE BOX ON $2.2 MILLION OF THOSE THINGS. 
          UM, THE LARGEST OF WHICH IS $900,000 FOR, TO HELP, UM, I DON'T WANNA GET THIS WRONG EITHER, BUT, UH, SUPPLEMENT THE FUNDING THAT THE CITY IS, UM, COMING UP WITH TO SUPPORT THE HERO WAY, UH, HERO WAY CONNECTION, UM, PROJECT. 
          AND THEN, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS LIST AT ALL, OR? YEAH, SO, SO THE 900 FOR, IT'S THE HOME DEPOT PROJECT. 
          SO THAT'S THE CITY'S, UH, COMMITMENT TO THE BUILD CENTRAL TEXAS GRANT PROGRAM. 
          SO THERE WAS 1.6 MILLION OF GRANT AWARDED TOWARDS 2.5 MILLION TOWARDS THE, UH, CIRCULATION IMPROVEMENTS FOR THAT PROJECT. 
          AND SO THIS IS OUR OBLIGATED MATCH, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 
          SO, UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SO THESE OTHER, UM, COMMITMENTS, UH, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, UM, PROBABLY TO HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC STUDIES, UH, TRYING TO CREATE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS, UH, ANY ADDITIONAL UPDATES OR, OR PROBLEM AREAS OR SPECIFIC AREAS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. 
          UM, THE MASTER PLAN FOR MUNICIPAL FACILITIES. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS AS WE THINK ABOUT BUILDING FORWARD FOR, UH, THAT MULTI-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, YOU KNOW, CITY FACILITY NEEDS ARE, ARE CRITICAL THINGS. 
          SO THE CITY HAS ALREADY PUT TOGETHER SOME CORE STUDIES FOR, LET'S SAY THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDINGS FOR, UH, NEW POLICE STATION, A FIRE ADMIN BUILDING. 
          SO WE KNOW THE SPACE THAT'S THERE. 
          UM, WE'RE LOOKING TOWARDS DOING SOME MORE SPECIFIC WORK WITH REGARD TO, UM, THE TYPES OF BUILDINGS, THE SIZES OF BUILDINGS, THE TYPE OF LAND THAT MAY BE NEEDED, UM, FOR THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS. 
          BUT WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THE BROAD BRUSH, EVERYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO LOOK AT PUBLIC WORKS FACILITIES, UTILITY FACILITIES, PARKS, FACILITIES, JUST THE WHOLE GAMUT. 
          SO THIS, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS STUDY WOULD REALLY EVALUATE WHAT WE NEED IN 
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TERMS OF FACILITIES WHEN WE MIGHT NEED IT. 
          UH, WE COULD LOOK AT WHAT THE NEEDS ARE TODAY VERSUS WHAT THEY WILL BE TOWARDS BUILD OUT. 
          BUT IT BEGINS TO GIVE US AN IDEA ABOUT WHAT THOSE FACILITY COSTS WILL BE, WHAT THOSE LAND NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE, AND ALLOWS US TO BEGIN TO SCHEDULE AND PROGRAM THAT OUT WITH A DEGREE OF SURETY, UH, THAT WE KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          UM, ONE OF THE PRIMARY THINGS I THINK THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IS MOVING FORWARD WITH LAND ACQUISITION. 
          UM, 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S QUICKLY EVAPORATING AND THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE, ARE WINNOWING DOWN FOR SIGNIFICANT PIECES OF LAND THAT CITY'S GONNA NEED, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          SO IT'LL ALLOW US TO BEGIN TO, TO DEVELOP AND LOOK AT THOSE PARTICULAR NEEDS AND BEGIN TO STRATEGIZE ON THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          UM, A LOT OF THE OTHER PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, THE, THE TRUCKS, THE MESSAGE BOARDS, UM, THOSE ARE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO BEGIN TO KEEP PACE WITH THE VARIOUS DEMANDS THAT ARE OUT THERE AS WE'RE WORKING ON UTILITIES, UH, WORKING ON ROAD CLOSURE ISSUES, ROOF PAVINGS, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THOSE ARE JUST KIND OF SOME OF THE CORE EQUIPMENT PIECES THAT WE NEED. 
          BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THOSE STUDIES, THOSE ARE REALLY KIND OF TWO WHAT I THINK ARE KIND OF CRITICAL, UM, THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WITH REGARD TO, UH, TRYING TO PREP AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE ON THE FACILITIES PIECE OF IT. 
          UM, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING COUNSEL'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW. 
          UM, AND THERE WAS SOME PRELIMINARY WORK DONE, UM, AND, AND COUNSEL ACTUALLY GAVE VERY SPECIFIC DIRECTION ON WHAT WE FELT LIKE WOULD BE THE BEST PLAY FOR THE CITY. 
          BUT THEN WE HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH PROBABLY IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO. 
          SO IT'S PROBABLY IN A DRAWER SOMEWHERE, UM, TO PULL OUT MAYBE DUST OFF BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY GOT, I THINK IT WAS AT A RETREAT MAYBE A YEAR BEFORE LAST, UM, WAS THE LAND THAT WAS NEEDED, HOW YOU COULD DO IT AS ONE GIANT CAMPUS OR MULTIPLE CAMPUSES, WHAT LAND WAS AVAILABLE, WE GAVE, UM, AND I BELIEVE THE FINAL FROM COUNCIL WAS GREEN SPACE. 
          UM, WE ACTUALLY WENT SO FAR AS TO PICK A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE WANTED THE CITY TO LOOK AT PURCHASING, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE LAST WE EVER HEARD ABOUT IT. 
          WE HAVE ASKED FOR UPDATES SINCE THEN, BUT I'M, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS, BUT I, I'M ALL FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER 'CAUSE I NEED TO HAPPEN, BUT ALSO DON'T WANNA THROW GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD BECAUSE WE KEEP DOING REPEATS. 
          GOTCHA. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU HAVE A MUCH BETTER MEMORY THAN I DO. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT SINCE IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. 
          WAS IT THAT IT WAS NOT COMPREHENSIVE OR DID IT MISS SOME THINGS? OR IS IT JUST OUT OF DATE NOW BECAUSE OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS? IT, IT WAS KIND OF, I, I KIND OF, THE, THE PIECE I LOOKED AT, I WOULD CHARACTERIZE THEM AS MORE KIND OF GENERAL, HERE'S THE GENERAL NEEDS, RIGHT? SO IT, THIS IS THE KIND OF SPACE YOU WOULD NEED. 
          GENERALLY THIS IS THE KIND OF SIZE OF LAND THAT YOU MIGHT, MIGHT NEED. 
          UH, BUT IT, IT'S NOT SPECIFIC. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S THE FIRST PIECE. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD FOUNDATIONAL PIECE. 
          SO WE MIGHT WANNA, IF, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT EFFORT, WANT TO GO BACK AND REEVALUATE, MAKE SURE WE JUST CONFIRM THOSE, UH, ASSUMPTIONS AND THEN BUILD FORWARD SPECIFICALLY. 
          AND ULTIMATELY THIS IS GETTING US INTO REALLY MORE OF A STRATEGIC PLAN IN TERMS OF HOW WE BEGIN THE PROCESS OF EXECUTING, UM, AND MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO THIS WOULD TAKE US UP TO THAT NEXT LEVEL. 
          THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER IS THAT WE HAD SOME GENERALIZATIONS, UM, BUT I, I DON'T REMEMBER US HAVING A LOT OF VERY SPECIFIC DATA. 
          IT WAS JUST LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO, COUNSEL? UM, AND SO THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS WILL BE, THIS WILL BE THE REAL WORK THAT WE WANTED TO HAPPEN. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          I MEAN IT DEFINITELY IS, IS THE MORE THE DETAILED VERSION. 
          BUT MY POINT IS, IS THAT WE DID SOME OF THAT PRELIMINARY WORK AND STAFF AND COUNSEL HAD GIVEN SOME DIRECTION. 
          SO IT'D BE NICE TO AT LEAST PULL THAT OUT AND DUST IT OFF AND, AND THEN EVALUATE WHERE WE NEED TO GO FROM HERE. 
          'CAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY OUTDATED BY NOW. 
          SO, AND IT, IT'S GOOD WORK, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S GOOD WORK THERE. 
          AND, AND SO, AND WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT STRATEGICALLY, INTERNALLY IN LOOKING AT THAT WAS THAT VERY THING, LOOKING AT THAT POOL, WHATEVER STUDIES WE HAVE, AND WE WANT TO EVALUATE THOSE AND, AND GO, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, ARE THOSE ASSUMPTIONS STILL VALID FOR WHERE WE NEED FOR WHERE WE ARE TODAY? SO YEAH. 
          SO IDEALLY NOTED. 
          SO WE WILL, WE'LL MAKE SURE AS WE GO THROUGH AND IF THIS MAKES THE, THE ALLOCATION PROCESS THAT, UH, WE'LL USE THAT AS A BASELINE MOVING FORWARD. 
          COULD SOMEBODY JUST SPEAK TO WHAT THE FIBER CONDUIT MASTER PLAN IS? YEAH. 
          PAUL, DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT? SURE. 
          UM, AS YOU KNOW, WITH THE ONE TIME SUPPLEMENT FOR THE MASTER PLAN FOR MUNICIPAL FACILITIES, IT MADE SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND 
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PUT A FIBER CONDUIT MASTER STRATEGY PLAN TO, TO COINCIDE WITH THAT. 
          WHAT INFORMATION ARE YOU LOOKING FOR, SIR? I JUST, SO AND SO WHAT DOES IT GIVE US? I MEAN, I KNOW IT. 
          OH, SURE. 
          SO, UM, SORRY, I'M GETTING NERVOUS. 
          THIS WILL HELP, UH, HELP US, UH, AS THE CITY GROWS, UH, TO, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE, THE GROWTH IN THE CITY IN THE RIGHT OF WAYS TO PUT CONDUIT IN WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, UH, FOR OUR FUTURE FACILITIES AND MORE. 
          ANOTHER THING TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT IS, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. 
          SO, UH, GOSH, ROBIN, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? OKAY. 
          UM, SO, UH, WE'RE AT OUR FIFTH YEAR MARK FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          SO IT'S TIME FOR THE CITY TO CONSIDER AN UPDATE. 
          UM, AS PART OF THE BUDGET WE WERE ANTICIPATING, UM, UH, MORE OF A OVERHAUL SINCE WE'VE HAD SO MANY CHANGES WITH REGARDS TO MULTI-FAMILY AND WATER AND OUR NEED FOR MORE COMMERCIAL. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT'S IT. 
          DO Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? MAYBE SIMILAR TO LAST TIME WHERE WE HAVE ALL THE FUN MEETINGS AND ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND PICTURES AND MAPS. 
          NO VARIABLE PERCENTAGES AT INTERSECTIONS THIS TIME. 
          I HOPE NOT. 
          RIGHT? YEAH. 
          THAT'LL BE THE GOAL WE'VE LEARNED. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          I DO HAVE A QUESTION, BUT MAYBE YOU'RE GONNA GET TO IT. 
          I JUST SEE THE NEW POSITION IN POLICE FOR A COMMUNITY SERVICES OFFICER. 
          WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT DOES THAT DO? SORRY, I WILL SPEAK CLOSER TO IT'S OKAY TO MIC . 
          I GOT CLOGGED UP HERE. 
          OH, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          I I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT THAT IS EXACTLY. 
          THE, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICES IS, IF YOU KNOW SERGEANT WARD, HE'S OVER THAT SIGN THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          SO COMMUNITY SERVICES IS KIND OF JUST THAT EXTRA OFFICER WE HAVE TO KIND OF HELP FACILITATE SPECIFIC COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT KIND OF HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          SO HE'S OUR KIND OF, OUR, USED TO BE DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT, SO HE'S JUST THAT ONE COORDINATOR GOTCHA. 
          FOR THAT. 
          SO NOW WE NEED TWO TO COVER. 
          SO YEAH, SO WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR WAS WE HAD TWO PEOPLE IN, IN THERE, AND THEN WHEN COVID KIND OF HIT, UM, AND THEN ALL THIS EVENTS KIND OF SLOWED DOWN AND IT WAS JUST KIND OF WHITTLED DOWN TO ONE AT THIS POINT. 
          AND WE MOVED ONE PERSON OVER TO PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS BECAUSE NOW WE'RE ON THE HIRING PIECE OF IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAD TO KIND OF SHIFT THAT RESPONSIBILITY OVER TO KIND OF GET THIS, UH, GET THROUGH THIS HIRING PHASE. 
          SO, UH, DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT WOULD LIKE TO REVAMP THAT TO KIND OF GET IT UP TO SPEED JUST BECAUSE IT'S HARD FOR ONE PERSON TO DO SO MUCH AS THE CITY GETS LARGER. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, UH, BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THAT POSITION IS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          ARE YOU ON THIS PAGE OR WERE YOU ON A UNFUNDED PAGE? OKAY. 
          , THANK YOU. 
          JUST GOTTA KEEP OUR CHIEF HONEST, YOU KNOW. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          I THINK I JUST GOT MY CAR TO WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY TO TO CHIEF AND CHIEF, DO Y'ALL WANT TO KIND OF ADDRESS THE NEED THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH REGARD TO THE NEW, UH, UH, FIREFIGHTER PERSONNEL AND THE OFFICERS THAT WE'RE ADDING INTO THE BUDGET? YEAH. 
          THE, THE REVISED BUDGET THAT WE HAD, WE HAD ADDED THE TWO ADDITIONAL, UH, PATROL OFFICERS TO THE BUDGET AND THEN WE HAD ALSO ADDED THE FOUR 80 FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS TO THE BUDGET. 
          SO THOUGHT MAYBE IT'D BE GOOD TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF WHAT THOSE POSITIONS WILL DO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS AS FAR AS ON THE POLICE SIDE, ON, UM, UH, ORIGINALLY WHEN WE KIND OF GOT TOGETHER AS A DEPARTMENT, WE KIND OF PUT TOGETHER, UH, KIND OF A PRELIMINARY, UH, LIST OF, UH, KIND OF PRIORITIES. 
          AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU DO THOSE LISTS, UH, PRIOR MONTHS, THEY KIND OF CHANGE AS YOU GO. 
          'CAUSE THINGS CHANGE AS, AS WE GO ON. 
          'CAUSE WE START THE BUDGET PROCESS SO EARLY, UM, IN THERE, IN, IN THE BUDGET, I KNOW WE HAD, UH, ORIGINALLY JUST HAD THE, UH, INVESTIGATOR POSITION AND THEN THE, UH, VICTIM SERVICES ADVOCATE THAT IN SOME CONVERSATIONS WE HAD, WE ALSO, UH, WITH MR. PARTON HAD AN ADDED THOSE TWO PATROL POSITIONS BACK IN THERE. 
          SO, UH, ONE THING WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WELL IN THOSE POSITIONS IS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS IF I, AND IF I'M QUOTING THIS WRONG, LET ME KNOW PLEASE. 
          SO IS, YOU KNOW, IS GETTING THESE POSITIONS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE PROGRAM THEM BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME NEEDS IN TRAFFIC AND, UH, AND SOME OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THOSE POSITIONS IF APPROVED, YOU KNOW, DO THEY, WHERE WE ARE IN THE HIRING 
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PROCESS, UM, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE IN THE ACADEMY, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT JUST GRADUATED THE ACADEMY AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BODIES THAT ARE KIND OF BEING MOVED AND COMING THROUGH. 
          SO WITH THESE TWO POSITIONS AT THE TIME WHEN WE CAN HIRE THEM, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY GONNA BE BEST RIGHT IN PATROL OR CAN WE PROGRAM THEM INTO SOME OF THESE OTHER POSITIONS TEMPORARILY OR PERMANENTLY? SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ADDED THOSE IN THERE TO KIND OF, AND I APPRECIATE THE FLEXIBILITY 'CAUSE THAT KIND OF HELPS ME 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO CATEGORIZE EVERYTHING IN THESE BOXES AND THEN WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE IN THOSE BOXES. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WE CAN MAKE THOSE MOVEMENTS AS WE NEED AND PUT THEM IN POSITIONS THAT ARE NEEDED MORE AT THAT TIME AND THEN READJUST AS WE KIND OF GO. 
          SO I DUNNO IF, I HOPE THAT ANSWERED THAT QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          SO ON THE, UH, FIREFIGHTERS WE'VE, UM, WHEN WE OPEN A, UH, FIRE STATION OR STAFF A FIRE TRUCK, IT'S TYPICALLY STAFFED WITH THREE FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE ON THERE. 
          AND THAT'S ACROSS THREE SHIFTS. 
          SO IT GIVES YOU NINE PERSONNEL AND THAT DOESN'T, THAT'S THE MINIMAL STAFFING THEN FOR THAT UNIT. 
          SO WE STILL HAVE TO ALLOW TIME OFF FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE THEIR VACATION HOLIDAYS, ATTEND TRAININGS, SICK LEAVE, SO FORTH. 
          SO IT'S COMMON PRACTICE THEN THAT WHENEVER YOU OPEN A STATION, YOU DO THAT WITH 12 PERSONNEL TO ALLOW FOR THAT VARIANCE TO BE OFF. 
          UM, SO TWO OF OUR UNITS ARE STILL ONLY STAFFED AT MINIMAL STAFFING OF NINE. 
          UM, AND SO WE REQUESTED THE, UH, ADDITIONAL STAFFING THEN, UH, TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW FOR THAT OTHER VACATION SPOT. 
          RIGHT NOW WE ONLY ALLOW THREE PERSONNEL OFF ON VACATION. 
          AND, UH, ACCORDING TO OUR CURRENT, UH, EMPLOYEES AND HOW MANY VACATION HOLIDAY HOURS THEY GET EACH YEAR, I NEED TO ALLOW A FOURTH PERSON OFF AT LEAST FOR A LITTLE OVER A FOURTH OF THE YEAR. 
          SO IN TALKING WITH CITY MANAGEMENT ABOUT THIS, UM, UH, WE WERE LOOKING AT BEING ABLE TO ADD THOSE FOUR PERSONNEL THAT'LL ALLOW THEN NOT ONLY FOR THAT FOURTH VACATION SPOT, BUT THEN ALSO SHOULD HELP REDUCE SOME OF THE CURRENT OVERTIME DEMAND, UH, BY HAVING THAT OTHER THAN, UH, THAT OTHER POSITION THEN TO BE ABLE TO COVER SOME OF THOSE. 
          I GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE POLICE ONE. 
          SO ON THE POLICE ON THOSE, WILL THEY ACTUALLY HAPPEN THIS YEAR? WILL THEY BE DOWN THE ROAD? OR HOW DOES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS HIRE GUYS IN ACADEMY AND ALL THAT AND IT KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF LAYERED IN EFFECT. 
          SURE. 
          SO THE, FOR THE, YOU TALKING ABOUT THE TWO PATROL POSITIONS HERE, SO, UH, YEAH, SO WHAT, HOPEFULLY THOSE WILL BE SOONER THAN LATER. 
          SO, UH, WITH THE RECENT APPROVAL OF OUR LATERAL TRANSFER PROGRAM AND SOME THINGS THAT WERE APPROVED FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HIRE PEOPLE WITH EXPERIENCE, OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO TRY TO GET LATERAL OFFICERS OUTTA THAT. 
          SO, UM, SO YEAH, I WOULD THINK THESE WOULD BE HOPEFULLY, UH, SOONER THAN LATER. 
          'CAUSE WE'D LIKE TO, LIKE TO HAVE, DEFINITELY LIKE TO HAVE 'EM. 
          NOW, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFIT OF A LATERAL OFFICER IS THEY USUALLY TAKE ABOUT THREE TO FOUR MONTHS OF TRAINING. 
          'CAUSE THEY'VE KIND OF COME IN WITH ALL THE, WITH ALL THE EXPERIENCE. 
          AND WE CAN GET 'EM RIGHT IN THE ACADEMY TAKES A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT THAT'S OUR PREFERENCE IS TO TRY TO GET THE LATERALS IN SO WE CAN GET THEM ON THE STREET QUICKER. 
          SO I JUST, SO IF WE ADDED ANOTHER FIRE STATION, WE'D NEED TO HIRE 12 MORE PEOPLE? TYPICALLY? YES. 
          YEAH, IT DEPENDS. 
          THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITIES WITH, UH, OUR CURRENT SETUP. 
          WE'VE GOT STATION ONE THAT HAS AN ENGINE THAT OUR AND A, UH, UH, THE LADDER TRUCK. 
          UH, BUT UH, THERE MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO HIRE A LESSER AMOUNT AND, UH, MORE, UH, SOME DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT. 
          UH, BUT YES, TYPICALLY IT'S GONNA BE 12 PER STATION. 
          AND, AND THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF THAT STAFFING RESOURCE PLAN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          SO, UH, SO ALL THAT'LL KIND OF ROLL IN AND THAT'LL BE CRITICAL BECAUSE AS WE LOOK TO DEVELOP PROGRAMS AND WE LOOK TO DEVELOP THOSE, THOSE, UH, FISCAL, UH, STRATEGIES, THEN WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT AS WE'RE COMMITTING TO THINGS THAT WE KNOW THAT OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD AT LEAST THAT WE KNOW WE'RE SUSTAINABLE. 
          AND I THINK CHIEF'S ALREADY IDENTIFIED TWO NEW FIRE STATIONS WE COULD PROBABLY USE TODAY, AND THERE'S AT LEAST TWO MORE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT ON INTO THE FUTURE. 
          SO IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 1.5 MILLION OPERATING ANNUALLY PER STATION. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A SMALL NUMBER 
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PROJECTS, UH, THANK YOU, UH, FOR, UH, FOR THE FUTURE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THAT $1 MILLION IS. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE TURNAROUND. 
          NICELY DONE. 
          UM, AND I AGREE, I NEVER THOUGHT WE WOULD, WE WOULD SEE THIS. 
          UM, BUT, UH, I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE IN THE MONTHLY REPORTS WE READ FREQUENTLY ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME AND MONEY IS EXPENDED ON FIXING IRRIGATION ISSUES. 
          SO IS REDOING THE IRRIGATION A PART OF THE CIP FUND OR DO WE HAVE PLANS FOR THAT? YES MA'AM, WE DO. 
          IT'S, UH, THE FIRST OF THE, THE CIPS THAT WE HAVE UP FIRST PRIORITY IS THE GREENS. 
          WE'RE HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH OUR GREENS AND HAVE BEEN FOR SEVERAL YEARS. 
          UH, PART OF THAT WILL BE IRRIGATION. 
          THE IRRIGATION AROUND THE GREENS WILL BE REPLACED BACK TO THE MAIN SYSTEM. 
          THEN THE NEXT PROJECT BEHIND THAT WILL BE, UH, TOTAL REVAMP OR, OR REPLACEMENT OF THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WHICH WE'RE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO, ALTHOUGH IT'LL BE PRETTY DISRUPTIVE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S IN THERE. 
          SO IT'S A SECOND PRIORITY. 
          SO WITH THE CIP FUND, ARE THOSE GONNA BE CIP PROJECTS THAT GET STARTED IN THIS NEXT FISCAL, OR IS IT YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE TO FUND IT FOR A FEW YEARS BEFORE YOU CAN DO THOSE PROJECTS? WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO CONTINUE TO FUND DEPENDING ON WHERE WE END UP. 
          IT'S SOME OF THE, WE'RE STILL GATHERING SOME DATA ON, ON THE FURTHER PROJECTS, THE GREENS. 
          WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THAT'S GONNA COST. 
          SO WE HOPE THAT'LL GET DONE THIS NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, THE, THE REMAINING PROJECTS, UH, IRRIGATION, UH, FACILITIES AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, WE'RE STILL PRICING THOSE THINGS OUT TO GET 'EM INTO THE CIP PROGRAM TO SOME UPDATED NUMBERS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UH, MR. POWERS AND I, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE GOLF FUND, UM, WAS AS IT'S REALLY STRUCTURING BEING SET UP TO OPERATE AS A TRULY INDEPENDENT ENTERPRISE TYPE OF FUND, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT POTENTIAL QUOTE INTER FUND LOANS. 
          SO IF WE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, IN THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES THAT WE WANTED TO, TO LOAN BACK OVER TO, TO THE GOLF FUND, THEN IT COULD REPAY OVER TIME. 
          SO IF THERE'S THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BECOME PRIORITY AND ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE SAY WE JUST NEED TO TACKLE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, WE CAN LOOK AT AT ARRANGING SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          THAT'S BRILLIANT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THE, THE NEXT, UH, 25 SLIDES ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WEREN'T INCLUDED. 
          UM, THIS IS WHERE THE DEPARTMENTS START CRYING. 
          SO , I WON'T GO OVER THIS LIST, BUT IT'S, UM, IT'S IN YOUR, YOUR HANDOUT AND, UM, I HEARD IT. 
          YOU I YOU WANT TO TACKLE? YEAH, I, I THINK THIS CONVERSATION, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND AND THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT WAS THE LIBRARY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S BLESSED WITH A GREAT ASSET IN THAT LIBRARY. 
          UM, IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THE NEW THINGS THAT ARE BEING, UH, PROGRAMMED AND, AND REALLY THE EVOLUTION OF THAT. 
          THERE'S STILL SO MANY MORE NEEDS AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE THERE. 
          UM, SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS A, UH, PLAN, A LIBRARY MASTER PLAN. 
          BUT DO YOU WANT TO KIND OF WALK US THROUGH, UH, KIND OF LIBRARY OPERATIONS, KIND OF, UH, SOME OF THE STAFFING ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD INTO OUR, UH, NEXT ROUND OF BUDGETARY PLANNING, MAYBE INTO NEXT YEAR? UM, SO WE ARE JUST STARTING A MASTER PLAN. 
          I HAVE A CONSULTANT, UM, WHO'S 
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HELPING. 
          SO THAT WILL BE COMPLETED BY MID-OCTOBER. 
          UM, SO THAT WILL GIVE US A GOOD PICTURE OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO GOING FORWARD. 
          I DID HAVE A FEW THINGS THAT I ASKED FOR THAT ARE ON THIS LIST OF 25 PAGES THAT WERE NOT APPROVED. 
          BUT, UM, GOING FORWARD I WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH THESE. 
          UM, AND IT WILL BE WITH THE ENCOURAGEMENT, I THINK FROM THE MASTER PLAN. 
          SO, UM, THE CONSULTANTS WILL BE STARTING WITH INTERVIEWS WITH, UM, STAFF, WITH CITY LEADERS AND WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE'LL DO COMMUNITY MEETINGS AS WELL TO GET THEIR INPUT ON WHAT THEY SEE AND WHAT THEY WANT FOR THE LIBRARY AND WHAT WE PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO AS WE GO FORWARD, WE'LL CONTINUE WITH OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE, UM, AND JUST INCREASE THAT AS WELL AS, UM, JUST GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IN THE WAY THAT WE ARE MEANT TO DO. 
          SO WHAT I ASKED FOR HERE, I NOT TOO FAR AWAY, WHAT I ASKED FOR HERE WAS REALLY JUST INCREASING THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE, INCREASING THE LEVEL OF , UM, OF MANAGEMENT AS WELL. 
          SO WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS, IS STILL PRETTY LOW, BUT WE ARE MAKING DUE WITH WHAT WE HAVE. 
          UM, AND I THINK WE DO A GOOD JOB WITH WHAT WE HAVE, UM, GOING FORWARD, WE WILL WANT TO INCREASE LEVELS OF MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS LEVEL OF STAFFING, OBVIOUSLY LEVEL OF SPACE. 
          UM, BUT AS WE CONTINUE WITH THE MASTER PLAN, I EXPECT THAT WHAT WE'LL HEAR BACK FROM THE COMMUNITY IS THAT WE DO GIVE A LOT WITH WHAT WE HAVE. 
          SO, UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THEIR OPINIONS, UM, AND TO SEE WHAT THE PRODUCT IS WITH THE DELIVERABLE TO, UM, TO CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL IN OCTOBER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT. 
          UM, SO OUR LIBRARY WAS SMALL FOR THE COMMUNITY FROM THE DAY IT WAS BORN. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, UH, AND SO WILL THAT MASTER PLAN BE CONSIDERING, LIKE, WILL IT INCLUDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BUILDING A NEW LIBRARY AND SIZES? OH, EXCELLENT. 
          IT WILL, IT WILL BE A SPACE ASSESSMENT, UM, AS WELL AS JUST OPERATIONS AND SERVICE AND, UM, AND, AND LIKE THAT SO FABULOUS. 
          UM, CAN'T WAIT. 
          SO I'M EXPECTING IT WON'T BE ANYTHING, ANYTHING, UM, SURPRISING OR UNUSUAL. 
          I THINK THAT EVERYTHING THAT WILL COME BACK WILL BE EVERYTHING WE ALREADY KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BUT HAVING IT IN THAT, UM, IN THAT FORM, THE PRODUCT TO GIVE TO THE COMMUNITY TO SHOW THAT WE'VE, UM, THAT WE HAVE ASSESSED, IT ASSESSED EVERYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH THEIR LIBRARY. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT IT'LL BE COMPLETE AND READY TO PRESENT? MID-OCTOBER. 
          MID-OCTOBER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, SHE CONVINCED ME TO, TO GET THIS MASTER PLAN DONE BECAUSE SHE SAID OTHERWISE THEY WERE GONNA CUT ALL THE JOKE BOOKS OUT OF THE INVENTORY AS LIKE, THAT'S JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, I WAS LOOKING AT WAS REALLY KIND OF TRYING TO FOCUS ON KIND OF WHAT SOME OF THE KINDA THE BASE OPERATIONAL NEEDS ARE, UH, MOVING FORWARD INTO NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, AND KIND OF LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE THINGS. 
          UM, I WAS A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE TO BE HONEST ON LOOKING AT ADDING NEW POSITIONS AND LOOKING AT, UM, UH, KIND OF THAT LONG TERM COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, UM, UNTIL WE GOT A, A BETTER HANDLE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF OUR, UH, FINANCIAL CAPACITIES AND, AND UH, ESTIMATES. 
          BUT THE OTHER THING TOO IS REALLY CONTEMPLATING, YOU KNOW, OUR MEET AND CONFER AND AS WE ARE, WE'RE MEETING WITH OUR, UH, ASSOCIATIONS, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY ASSOCIATIONS, UH, TO GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, COMPENSATION AND THOSE VARIOUS OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO FACTOR IN. 
          SO I WANNA TAKE, MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THOSE CORE THINGS, THAT OUR NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE, REFLECTING THOSE THINGS. 
          AND THEN AS WE BEGIN TO BUILD FORWARD, UH, INTO SOME OF THOSE STAFFING PLANS THAT WE'RE GONNA CREATE. 
          SO AGAIN, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THE EMPLOYEES HERE, WE'RE DOING THE, THE RIGHT BUSINESS AND COMPENSATING THEM APPROPRIATELY, AND THEN ADDING STAFF AND ADDING PROGRAMMING PAST THAT. 
          SO IT'S SUSTAINABLE QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THIS STUFF THAT WASN'T APPROVED, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ON THE, UM, WELL I DID HAVE ONE. 
          SO THERE'S JUST ONE THING, WHETHER THAT'S A COUPLE OF THEM, BUT THE ONE OR THE, THIS IS FOR FIRE ONE TEST CANCER SCREENING. 
          COULD YOU KINDA EXPLAIN THAT? 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS, AND IT'S A MULTI-YEAR THING, IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING TO PROTECT YOUR, YOUR PEOPLE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UH, FIREFIGHTERS JUST DUE TO THE EXPOSURE OF THE CARCINOGENS AND THE FIRES THAT THEY RESPOND TO, THEY ARE AT A HIGHER RISK OF, UH, SUSTAINING FIRE, UH, CANCER FROM THOSE EXPOSURES. 
          UH, CURRENTLY WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE PERSONNEL 
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IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE EITHER GONE THROUGH OR GOING THROUGH CANCER TREATMENTS. 
          THIS, UH, TEST IS A, UH, WOULD BE A BLOOD LAB THAT WOULD BE DONE THEN EACH YEAR AS PART OF THEIR PHYSICAL, UH, THAT WOULD TEST FOR A VARIETY OF CANCERS THAT ARE KNOWN TO FIREFIGHTING. 
          CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THAT? SURE. 
          UH, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, GO AHEAD. 
          UM, SORRY, I'M CHEWING, THEY'RE ALL COVERED THROUGH THE INSURANCE PROGRAM, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          AS FAR AS IF THEY, UH, ARE DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER? WELL, YES, BUT IN JUST IN GENERAL, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT WOULD, IF THAT, UH, TEST WOULD BE COVERED BY INSURANCE WHERE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S EXTRA, WHERE IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO ON THE BUDGET, IT WOULD JUST BE COVERED THROUGH THEIR INSURANCE. 
          UM, AND IT MAY, IT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT INSURANCE COVERS. 
          WE ALL YEAH, I'VE NOT HEARD OF ANY OF THE, UH, DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE USING THAT CANCER TEST, HAVING IT COVERED UNDER INSURANCE. 
          WE JUST CERTAINLY, UH, CHECK INTO THAT AND SEE, UM, ONCE THEY, UH, DEPENDING IF, IF ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES IS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF CANCER, IT MAY BE COVERED UNDER WORKERS' COMP OR IT MAY BE UNDER THEIR PERSONAL INSURANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE REALLY DON'T KNOW IF, IF, IF IT'S AN OPTION TO HAVE THAT TEST OR A SIMILAR TEST DONE THROUGH THE INSURANCE. 
          CORRECT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, WE CAN CHECK. 
          I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THEM BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND IT BE COVERED BY THE INSURANCE THAT THEY HAVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, UNDER THE, UNDER ENGINEERING THERE'S THIS, UH, NEW POSITION, GIS INTERIM THAT'S, THAT WAS PUT OUT THERE AND I WAS JUST WONDERING ON THE GIS STUFF, LIKE HOW DO WE, HOW WOULD THAT HELP? OR WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE BIG IMPACT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND WOULD IT HELP US IN THE LONG RUN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THERE WE GO. 
          HELLO. 
          UM, EMILY TRUMAN, CITY ENGINEER, UH, GIS INTERN. 
          UM, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT HELPS US, UH, GET GIS LIKE DAY-TO-DAY WORK DONE, BUT THEN ALSO GIVES US A CONNECTION WITH A CC AND UT AND SOME OF THE PLACES TO MAYBE, UM, HELP, UH, YOU KNOW, UPCOMING, UH, COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO ARE LOOKING TO GET THEIR, UM, DEGREE IN GIS. 
          IT'S A GOOD WAY FOR US TO KIND OF TEST DRIVE A, UH, A GIS PERSON AND SEE IF THEY'RE A GOOD, UH, FIT FOR US. 
          WE'VE HAD LUCK WITH ENGINEERING INTERNS IN THAT RESPECT. 
          WE'VE HIRED SEVERAL REALLY GOOD ENGINEERS, UM, BY HAVING THEM START AS AN INTERNSHIP, IT'S A REAL LOW, UH, COST, LOW, UH, STRESS WAY OF, OF GETTING INFORMATION ABOUT A PERSON AND, AND GETTING, CONTINUING THE INTEREST IN ACTUALLY HELPING THE COMMUNITY, UH, WITH OUR, WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE GIS UM, FIELD. 
          WE ALSO HAVE AN ENGINEERING INTERN IN THE BUDGET AS WELL. 
          IT'S NOT ON HERE, BUT, UH, THOSE HIGHLIGHTS THAT INTERNS ARE VERY AFFORDABLE. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET A WEBMASTER INTERN, LIKE FROM THE COLLEGE? HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? I'M SORRY. 
          GET IT QUIET. 
          SORRY. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET A WEBMASTER INTERN LIKE FROM THE COLLEGE OR SOMETHING? HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? HAVE WE DISCUSSED THAT WEBMASTER INTERN TO HELP WITH THE WEBSITE? CAN I SAY SOMETHING REALLY QUICK ABOUT INTERNS? YES. 
          UM, IN PLANNING, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF GREAT EXPERIENCE AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HIRE INTERNS TO BE ASSISTANT PLANNERS, BUT INTERNS ARE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE, UM, TO MAN, UH, SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS ON THEIR OWN. 
          UM, SO IF YOU HAD A WEBMASTER THAT COULD BE LEADING AN INTERN THAT'S PRODUCTIVE, BUT PUTTING THEM IN CHARGE OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT BE CHALLENGING. 
          GOTCHA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I I, I WOULD REEMPHASIZE THAT, UM, THAT, THAT THERE IS STILL REMAINING FLEXIBILITY AND, AND THAT'S A FINANCE TERM FOR, UH, FUNDING SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE STILL ON THE, ON THE LIST. 
          AND THE CITY MANAGER, UH, UH, WILL REVIEW, UH, THE LIST AND, AND WHEN WE WILL GET BACK TOGETHER ONCE WE HAVE THE FINAL, UH, TAX RATE CALCULATION FROM WILLIAM WILLIAMSON COUNTY. 
          UH, WE'LL HAVE THOSE BEFORE YOUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS AUGUST 1ST. 
          SO IT'S GONNA PUT SOME TIME PRESSURE ON THEM TO GET THOSE CALCULATIONS DONE. 
          BUT TO REFRESH, THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS, AT YOUR NEXT MEETING, YOU WILL VOTE ON A PROPOSED TAX RATE. 
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I HATE THAT TERM BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY THE PROPOSED TAX RATE. 
          IT IS THE, THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS WILLING TO CONSIDER THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          SO, UM, BUT THE STATE LANGUAGE CALLS IT THE PROPOSED TAX RATE. 
          SO WE WILL PRESENT THAT TO YOU. 
          UM, IF, AND, UM, THERE IS THE ALWAYS THE OPTION THAT YOU WANT TO PROPOSE A RATE HIGHER THAN THE, THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, THAT, THAT THEN TRIGGERS AN ELECTION. 
          BUT TYPICALLY, WE, UM, PRESENTED YOU WITH THE MAXIMUM BEFORE THE ELECTION REQUIREMENT, AND THEN YOU CONSIDER THAT IT IS NOT A COMMITMENT THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE THE RATE, BUT IT GIVES YOU FLEXIBILITY, UH, DURING THE PROCESS. 
          SO THAT COMES SEPTEMBER WHEN YOU ACTUALLY DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE AND, AND, AND VOTE. 
          UH, YOU CAN, UH, YOU CAN, UH, SET THE RATE, UH, AT ANY ANY POINT THAT OR BELOW. 
          SO WE WILL HAVE THAT NEXT WEEK. 
          AND, UM, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO WRAP THIS SECTION UP, BUT I, THERE IS FLEXIBILITY ON THE AVAILABLE FUNDS AND, AND I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE PARTICULAR OPERATIONAL AREAS THAT YOU WANT US TO GO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO? IS IT PUBLIC SAFETY? IS IT PARKS, IS IT LIBRARY? IS IT, ARE THERE THINGS LIKE THAT YOU WANT TO LOOK AT? COMMUNICATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          ELSE SHE SAID LESS FINANCE, MORE COMMUNICATIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? NO, I THINK IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S BEEN, UM, VERY COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT AND THAT THERE'S WIGGLE ROOM IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED FROM US BESIDES THAT? UH, I DON'T THINK SO. 
          AND THEN, UM, I'LL BE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE CIRCLING BACK WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM TO KIND OF GO BACK AND LOOK AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL TOTALLY ADMIT IT KIND OF COMING IN NEW AND KIND OF COMING IN IN THE, THE MIDST OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS, OKAY, IS THERE SOMETHING I'M NOT THINKING THROUGH ALL THE WAY, SOMETHING I'M MISSING? UH, ARE THERE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT TO ME NEED TO BE REPRIORITIZED OR BROUGHT BACK UP? SO, SO, UH, I'LL BE CIRCLING BACK WITH, WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS TO KIND OF GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK SOME OF THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, UH, KEY THINGS ARE ON THE UTILITY SIDE. 
          KEY THINGS WILL BE ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE. 
          UH, AND AGAIN, ON THE PARKS AND REC SIDE, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PRIMARY EMPHASIS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, THAT QUALITY OF PLACE AND TRYING TO DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, THOSE PROGRAMS AND, AND SUPPORT THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE KIND OF TRACKING IN THAT AREA. 
          UM, AGAIN, BUT I'M TRYING TO BE CAUTIOUS TOO BEFORE WE HAVE THAT, THAT KIND OF STABLE PICTURE IN MIND AS WELL. 
          SO, SO YOU MAY SEE SOME REVISIONS THAT COME BACK ON THE BACKSIDE. 
          UM, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 
          I SEE THAT. 
          UM, I NOTICED ONE, ONE THING, UM, AND THIS WAS ON THE, ON THE GOLF FUND BECAUSE SO MUCH OF, SO MUCH OF WHAT IS BEING DONE IS ON THE, THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH IS TREMENDOUSLY IMPORTANT. 
          UH, WHERE DID I SEE PAINT? I KNOW I SAW PAINT ON HERE SOMEWHERE JUST FOR THE GOLF SHOP AND IT, THERE IT IS. 
          NO, THAT'S SLIDING DOOR. 
          WHERE IS PAINT? LARRY? WHERE WAS PAINT ON THE, THE GOLF? OH, THERE IT IS. 
          IT'S THE SECOND GOLF SHOP. 
          UPDATE, SERVICE COUNTER FLOORING. 
          UH, THERE'S NO, THERE'S SEVERAL ITEMS. I THOUGHT THERE WAS JUST SOMETHING SEPARATE PAINT. 
          ANYWAY, I JUST KIND OF A FACELIFT FOR THE, THE GOLF SHOP. 
          WAS THAT NOT ABLE TO BE INCORPORATED IN, INTO THE BUDGET AT ALL? OR THE PROPOSED BUDGET? NOT AT THIS POINT. 
          UM, I KNOW AS A CITY MANAGER SAID IT, IF IF IT BEARS FURTHER DISCUSSION, ABSOLUTELY WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT I NOTICED THAT I FELT LIKE WOULD BE A REASONABLY AFFORDABLE AND, UH, IT JUST MAKES A DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU WALK IN. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          BUT IT CAN BE DONE LATER, . 
          WELL, IT'LL GET DONE EVENTUALLY. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, SO LARRY, UM, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE, THE NEW FOOD SERVICE CONTRACT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND THE NEED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE FACILITIES FOR THAT, UH, THIS PROBABLY WAS JUST KIND OF RAISING A POINT. 
          IS THAT AN OPPORTUNITY OR IS THERE A NEED THERE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT FACELIFT OR, OR SOME OF THOSE, UH, FACILITY UPGRADES MAYBE AS PART OF THAT? UH, POTENTIALLY. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING A MEETING WITH, UH, ONE OF THE POTENTIAL, UM, NEW TENANTS ON MONDAY TO KIND 
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OF GET A, A, A SENSE OF WHAT THEY PLAN ON DOING WITH THE SPACE. 
          UH, FOR US ON THE GOLF SIDE OF, OF THE BUILDING AS IT WERE. 
          WE, WE, OUR, OUR THOUGHT WAS TO PUT IN AN ENTRY DOOR SO THAT WE COULD SEGREGATE THAT GOLF SHOP SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE EVENTS AFTER HOURS AND THINGS ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, OUT ON THE DECK OR THE RESTAURANT IS DOING A, A, A PUBLIC EVENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN SECURE THAT GOLF SHOP. 
          UH, AND OF COURSE THE, UH, THE UPGRADE OR THE, THE, THE REFRESH OR THE GOLF SHOP ITSELF WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT, UH, MORE ROOM IN THERE TO DO THAT. 
          UM, BUT WE'LL HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, BY MAKING A SMALLER, UH, COUNTER AND DOING SOME THINGS, WE CAN INCREASE THE FLOOR SPACE. 
          BUT, UH, AS FAR AS IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NEW FOLKS THAT ARE COMING ON BOARD, WE WILL, UH, WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, UH, AFTER OUR MEETINGS ON MONDAY. 
          OKAY. 
          DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THOSE PARTS? ARE Y'ALL, ARE Y'ALL READY NOW TO DEVELOP YOUR WISHLIST? YEAH. 
          , YOU, YOU'VE GIVEN YOURSELF A GIFT OF ABOUT $2.3 MILLION, UM, WHICH ARE, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL REMAINING FUNDS, UH, AT THE PROJECTED AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS YEAR. 
          UM, SO NOW IS YOUR TIME TO KIND THANK AND BRAINSTORM A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ON, ARE THERE SOME THINGS THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN YOU WANT US TO, TO LOOK AT IN PROGRAM? AND THESE SHOULD BE SPECIFICALLY NON-RECURRING, SO NOT STAFF POSITIONS, RIGHT? THEY, THEY CAN BE WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT THEM TO DO. 
          I, I WOULD REQUEST THEY BE REALLY PRIMARILY ONE TIME EXPENDITURES. 
          UM, DON'T WANNA REALLY KIND OF CREATE A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE RELYING ON PRIOR YEAR FUNDING TO CONTINUE WITH CONTINUAL, IF THERE ARE ONGOING SERVICE LEVEL ADJUSTMENTS, WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO DO AT THAT POINT IS TO LOOK AT MOVING SOME OF THE OTHER ONE TIME THAT WE'RE PROGRAMMING IN THE BUDGET NOW, MOVE THOSE OVER INTO ONE TIME AND TO CONSIDER PUTTING THOSE OVER INTO THE REGULAR OPERATING SIDE OF IT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP TRACK, WE DON'T LOSE IT. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S PART OF OUR ONGOING, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT MOVING FORWARD. 
          BUT PRIMARILY THE INTENT HERE IS, ARE THERE SPECIFIC THINGS, ONE-TIME THINGS, CAPITAL THINGS THAT YOU WANT US TO, TO LOOK AT? COUNSEL, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? I THINK I'D BE INTERESTED IN WHAT THE CITY THINKS. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING US FOR LIKE WHAT DO WE THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT, BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT? WELL, I THINK, YEAH, I THINK WE'VE HIT THOSE THINGS SO FAR. 
          YOU KNOW, WITH REGARD TO THE MASTER PLANS, THE FACILITY PLANS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'VE GOT ROLLED INTO THE BUDGET HERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ALREADY KIND OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MAYBE GIVING IT A LITTLE BIT OF FACELIFT, KIND OF ADDRESSING THAT UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME ROUTES, SOME DOLLARS PROGRAMMED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CAPACITY IN TERMS OF OUR ROAD MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD INTO NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, BUT IF THERE'S, UM, THINGS THAT YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE OUT THERE, UM, STUDIES THAT YOU WANT US TO TRY TO FUND, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF ISSUES LIKE THAT THAT, THAT YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT. 
          SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT, UM, OUR SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND OLD TOWN, AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO AT SOME POINT HEAR RANDALL'S THOUGHTS, NOT TODAY, 'CAUSE WE'RE THROWING THIS RIGHT AT YOU. 
          BUT, UM, BUT I KNOW WE USED TO HAVE THE OLD TOWN GRANT PROGRAM THAT NO LONGER EXISTS. 
          UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD BE RETURNING THAT, UM, BRINGING IT BACK INTO PLACE, BUT MAYBE CHANGING SOME OF THE FORM. 
          BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE, THE ITEMS OF FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RECIPIENTS IS THAT BASICALLY PAY IT FOR A SIDEWALK. 
          UM, MAYBE WE CAN USE IT TO, TO REALLY HELP PEOPLE TO OPEN THAT. 
          MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST SMALL BUSINESSES IN GENERAL. 
          BUT I THINK AT SOME POINT WE REALLY HAVE TO HAVE A TALK. 
          WE'VE GOT THE MASTER PLAN IN HAND. 
          WE HAVE TO HAVE A TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OLD TOWN, UM, ESPECIALLY EAST OLD TOWN AND WHAT OUR PLANS ARE THERE. 
          UM, HOW DO WE STRATEGICALLY MAKE BOTH OF THOSE SIDES THRIVE AND, AND HOW MUCH DO WE WANT TO POUR INTO THAT EFFORT? AND IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN JUST GIVING GRANTS TO SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          IT'S, IT'S ALSO, I THINK, GOING TO BE OFFERING ASSISTANCE THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          IT'S GONNA BE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, I KNOW MOST OF US WERE IN EAST OLD TOWN YESTERDAY. 
          YOU SEE THE BRIDGES, YOU SEE THE ROADS. 
          LIKE THERE ARE BARRIERS TO THAT AREA THRIVING. 
          AND I THINK, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE FUNDING FOR THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. 
          OR DO WE JUST WANNA HAVE THE DISCUSSION OF, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE NOT GONNA DEVELOP THIS, BUT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DECIDED. 
          AND 
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I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SIT ON IT ANYMORE. 
          UM, WHEN THE IDEA OF OLD TOWN TURNING INTO BUSINESSES, UM, FIRST CAME TO THIS COUNCIL, I WAS STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL , AND THIS IS AS FAR AS WE ARE. 
          UM, SO I, I JUST WANNA STOP MEANDERING THROUGH IT AND REALLY DEDICATE OURSELVES TO SOMETHING WHICH KIND OF SEGUES. 
          'CAUSE IF YOU, FOR, FOR ME, IT'S GETTING THE WEBSITE, RIGHT? IT'S UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S UPGRADES OR CHANGES, EVEN THE COSMETIC STUFF AT THE GOLF COURSE, WE NEED THAT, THAT IS A GYM IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE NEED IT TO NOT LOOK SECOND RATE IN SOME ASPECTS, UM, BECAUSE THAT IS A GREAT PLACE AND, AND OBVIOUSLY IS MAKING MONEY. 
          SO IF WE CAN DO THINGS TO MAXIMIZE THAT SO THAT PEOPLE WANT TO COME, WE NEED TO DO THAT. 
          AND THEN MY THIRD PIECE, UM, AND THESE ARE NOT IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER, BUT WHAT CAN WE DO? UM, I'M MORE OF A MINDSET OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE THAN SMALL THAN SMALL BUSINESS GRANTS. 
          BUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO PUT SOME MONEY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF OLD TOWN, UM, TO MAKE IT, BECAUSE IF, IF WE MAKE IT A PLACE TO BE, PEOPLE WILL COME AND HOW CAN, AND WHAT STEP CAN WE TAKE TO MAKE IT BETTER IN THAT WAY? AND THE CONNECTION OF EAST AND WEST IS CRITICAL TOO. 
          AND IT SHOULD INCLUDE SOME MARKETING TOO WHEN WE GET TO THAT AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, WELL WE SAID IT'S OLD TOWN AND WE PUT UP A SIGN ON THE CORNER. 
          LIKE WE NEED COMPREHENSIVE PLANS FOR THAT. 
          UM, I THINK ANOTHER THING TOO IS SAN GABRIEL PARK, UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMEWHAT STALLED. 
          SO IS THERE SOME OF THIS THAT CAN GO TOWARDS PHASE ONE? UM, I DON'T KNOW. 
          THERE'S SO MANY NEEDS. 
          I FEEL LIKE  WE COULD, WE COULD MAKE A HUGE LIST IF WE WANTED TO SIT HERE ALL DAY. 
          COUNCIL, ANY OTHER IDEAS? ALRIGHT, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION MAYBE THAT YOU COULD HELP WITH. 
          UM, HOW OFTEN DO WE HAVE DEMOGRAPHERS COME IN AND DO THE ARTIFICIAL POPULATION? MY, MY REQUEST OR INTEREST WOULD BE AROUND UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHO IS IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IT SEEMS THAT WE'VE HAD A HUGE SHIFT IN OUR POPULATION IN THE LAST, LIKE THREE SINCE COVID. 
          AND SO UNDERSTANDING LIKE RELIGIOUS WHO'S HERE, LIKE WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT ARE HERE. 
          AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ACCURATELY REFLECT WHO IS IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND IT WOULD MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO PROVIDE RESOURCES, UM, TO FOLKS IF WE UNDERSTOOD EXACTLY WHO WAS HERE. 
          UM, I KNOW WE HAD A MEETING WITH, UM, HILL COUNTRY MINISTRIES NOT TOO LONG AGO. 
          AND SO UNDERSTANDING HOW MANY FOLKS ARE ACTUALLY PARTAKING IN THE SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE, UM, WOULD HELP US BE ABLE TO CONNECT PEOPLE TO RESOURCES IN A WAY THAT I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE, WE DO A GREAT JOB OF RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T COST VERY MUCH TO UNDERSTAND AND GET A, A REPORT OF WHO'S IN THE CITY AND HOW THAT POPULATION HAS ACTUALLY CHANGED, UM, SINCE COVID. 
          'CAUSE WE'VE HAD A BIG INCREASE. 
          SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN WE GET OFFICIAL NUMBERS, BUT 'CAUSE USUALLY WE'RE PROBABLY KICKING BACK WAITING FOR THE US DECENNIAL CENSUS THAT GIVES US THAT INFORMATION. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE LIKE PLACER AI SOFTWARE, WHICH IS A MARKETING SOFTWARE, BUT IT DOESN'T, YEAH, IT GIVES US SOME PROFILE STUFF, BUT IT'S EXTRAPOLATED. 
          SO I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY. 
          WE ALSO WORK WITH, UM, BOTH SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 
          THEY HAVE A DEMOGRAPHER THAT COMES IN AND MEETS WITH US AND THEY GATHER SIMILAR INFORMATION, BUT UM, THE RESULTS ARE ACROSS THEIR WHOLE DISTRICT AND NOT SPECIFIC TO LEANDER. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE ANSWER I WAS GIVEN SEVERAL CITY MANAGERS AGO IS THAT, UM, THE LISD DEMOGRAPHER IS SO COMPREHENSIVE THAT WE JUST RELY ON IDS. 
          BUT NOW I'M LIKE, I'M TRYING TO PULL IT UP TO SEE HOW COMPREHENSIVE IT'S , YOU KNOW, WHAT PROJECTS AREN'T WE DOING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN THE BUDGET THAT WE FEEL SHOULD BE DONE. 
          BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS COME BEFORE COUNCIL HERE WHERE WE SAY, HEY, I WANNA STOPLIGHT HERE. 
          I WANT THIS THERE THAT, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $4 MILLION THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. 
          UM, AND UH, AND YOU CAN DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THIS. 
          SO I KIND OF LIKE THINK, IS THERE, ARE THERE THINGS THAT COULD BE JUMP STARTED? I LIKE THE IDEA OF TYING THE TWO SIDES TOGETHER FOR OLD TOWN. 
          'CAUSE THAT HAS TO BE DONE AT SOME POINT. 
          OTHERWISE YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP ON THE OTHER SIDE 'CAUSE EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE ON THIS SIDE. 
          AND SO, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT 
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HOW TO DO THAT. 
          NOW THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT CREATIVE WAYS TO KIND OF DEAL WITH THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS TO CONSIDER SIGNAGE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST PASSED THE, UM, ENTERTAINMENT THING AND DO WE START DOING SOME THINGS WITH THAT AND START BASICALLY PUMPING THAT UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF ASKING TO SEE LIKE, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK IN ORDER TO KIND OF MOVE THAT FORWARD. 
          I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE HEAR, WELL, THIS HAS TO BE DONE AND THAT HAS TO BE DONE, OR THIS ISN'T QUITE READY. 
          YOU KNOW, CAN WE USE THAT FOR THAT TO JUMP IT? BECAUSE WE HAVE A VERY FLAT SALES TAX GOING FORWARD. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE BASICALLY RELYING ON OUR, ON OUR, UH, PROPERTY TAX AND CAN WE DO SOMETHING TO JUMPSTART SOME OTHER REVENUE SOURCE SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GET MORE OF A, A HIGHER GROWTH INSTEAD OF KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA SLOWLY CUT OUR PROPERTY TAXES BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT IT, BUT AT SOME POINT THAT'S GONNA PEAK AND THEN WE'RE GONNA BE SITTING HERE GOING, AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF COMING ONLINE, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND YOU CAN DO SOMETHING WITH IT. 
          IT, I MEAN, I THINK MOST OF THE TRAFFIC FIXTURES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE REALLY BIG ONES AND ALL THAT. 
          AND SO IF YOU COULD GET RID OF SOME OF THAT STUFF THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THAT COMING IN FRONT OF US ALL THE TIME, IT WOULD BE NICE. 
          AND I HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN HERE THAT LONG. 
          SO, SO AT THE LEVEL OF FUNDING WE HAVE HERE, UM, IT'S NOT A, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY TO MAKE A HUGE IMPACT, YOU KNOW, ON SOME OF THOSE MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE PIECES. 
          UM, SO IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD IN PROGRAMMING LIKE THAT, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT, AT HELPING TO MAYBE DO DESIGN OR TO PROGRAM IT IN SO WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE THESE FUNDS AND ROLL THOSE OVER INTO THE, THE CIP AND, AND BEGIN TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WANT TO PROGRAM AND PRIORITIZE THOSE DOLLARS INTO, UH, PROJECTS THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, THAT, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME OF THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS THINKING ABOUT WAS, ARE THERE KIND OF SPOT PROJECTS THAT ARE SMALLER SCALE? LIKE ARE THERE PARK IMPROVEMENTS, ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE WANNA LOOK AT FOR SHADE STRUCTURES? UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT YOU'RE SEEING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, UH, SITE SPOT, SIDEWALK REPAIR, UH, SPOTS. 
          ARE THERE PROBLEMATIC AREAS THAT YOU SEE THAT, THAT THE COMMUNITY'S KIND OF GIVING YOU GUYS FEEDBACK ON THAT YOU THINK REALLY NEED TO HAVE SOME ATTENTION TO? PARKING LOT. 
          WE STRIPING. 
          OKAY. 
          DEFINITELY HERE. 
          I THINK THE LIBRARY GOT DONE LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE. 
          I THINK WE'RE GOOD THERE NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BUT I'M NOT SURE AT PARKS, AT ALL THE PARKS IF THAT'S ALL UP TO DATE. 
          BUT HERE, IT, IT CAN BE DIFFICULT. 
          I'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE REACH OUT WITH CONCERNS ABOUT, I KNOW WE JUST DID THOSE UPDATES I BLED SO, UM, AT THE PARK, BUT A SHADE COVER FOR THAT NEW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT WITH THE THANK YOU. 
          I WAS SAY CONTRAPTION, BUT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE WORD. 
          ACTUALLY, WE ARE APPLYING FOR A GRANT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE LESS THAN 50,000. 
          40,000. 
          IT'S BASICALLY READY TO GO. 
          IT'S DUE JULY 31ST. 
          COVER THAT ONE. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          I'M WAITING ON A COUPLE OF, UH, QUOTES TO COME IN SO I CAN ATTACH THOSE AND SEND IT OFF TO LCRA. 
          SO. 
          AWESOME. 
          HOPEFULLY, WE'LL, OUR, OUR, OUR INVESTMENT WILL BE A LOT LESS. 
          IT'S A 20, IT'S AN 80 20 GRANT, SO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IT'S READY, BASICALLY READY TO GO. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          AND THEN WILL YOU GIVE US A LIST AT SOME POINT OF SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, THINGS THAT THAT STAFF THINKS COULD BE A, A GOOD APPLICATION OF THINGS THAT WE JUST DON'T THINK OF OR SEE NECESSARILY? ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND AND PART OF IT IS THE, THE UNFUNDED SUPPLEMENT PIECE. 
          I'LL GO BACK TO BEGIN LOOKING AT THAT. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          THERE ARE THINGS WE WANNA BRING IN. 
          I JUST DIDN'T WANNA TO ALLOCATE IT. 
          I JUST WANNA LEAVE YOU GUYS SOME SPACE TO, TO KIND OF PROGRAM SOME THINGS THAT YOU GUYS ARE SEEING THAT WE MAY NOT BE THINKING ABOUT OR PRIORITIES THAT YOU HAVE. 
          SO WE'LL GO BACK TO THAT. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE OTHER, UH, AREAS. 
          I THINK Y'ALL GAVE US SOME, SOME DIRECTION IN TERMS OF WHAT ELSE TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT, TO EVALUATE. 
          UM, ONE LAST THING. 
          UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ISAAC TALKED TO US ABOUT A FEW TIMES WAS, UH, HE SAID WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A FOUR A FOUR B, CREATING SOME KIND OF FUND, UM, THAT WE COULD USE TO SUPPLEMENT WHEN WE HAVE, UM, A, A GREAT CLIENT OR WHATEVER PROSPECT, UM, ON THE LINE AND WE NEED SOMETHING TO GIVE THEM. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FEASIBLE, BUT YEAH. 
           WELL, AND I, I DON'T KNOW, I'M GONNA PUT RANDALL ON THE SPOT TOO 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT WE SHOULD DO TODAY. 
          UM, HE'S VERY COMFORTABLE ON THE SPOT. 
          HE, HE REALLY IS. 
          HE CAN TAP DANCE LIKE CRAZY. 
          UM, 
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SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KIND OF MET WITH WILCO YESTERDAY AND HAD A PRETTY GOOD, UH, CONVERSATION ABOUT KIND OF THE, THE FUTURE FOR THIS AREA AND FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND KIND OF BEGINNING TO IDENTIFY KIND OF MAYBE WHAT, WHAT OUR AREA AND CITY ACCOUNT DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN REALLY MAY BE. 
          SO I'M KIND OF WONDERING, I DUNNO IF YOU KIND OF SEE A NEED TO PUT SOME DOLLARS TOWARDS, UM, SOME OF THAT KIND OF EFFORT. 
          I, YEAH, NO, I ABSOLUTELY, THANKS FOR THE, THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, WE'RE, UH, YEAH, I, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY A, PROBABLY A MOOD, UH, THERE. 
          WE, WE'VE GOT PRETTY CLEAR, UH, SHORT TERM GOALS AND SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT WE'LL GO OVER HERE AND A, A LITTLE BIT THAT I THINK WE CAN, CAN ACHIEVE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE MARKET, WHAT WE CAN ATTRACT AS WE GET, UM, FROM A MIDTERM AND LONG TERM PERSPECTIVE ON SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE WE SEE ON, ON FUNDING GAPS, LOOKING AT STRATEGICALLY HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE. 
          UM, ABSOLUTELY MAKES, MAKES SENSE. 
          I'M ALL FOR SPENDING MONEY TO MAKE MORE MONEY. 
          LOVE IT. 
          WHAT DID WE DECIDE ON THE OLD TOWN PARK IS, WE'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          I KNOW WE, WE TAPERED DOWN ON SOME OF THE, THE EX THE EXTREME THINGS THAT WE WERE OFFERING, BUT WE'RE, THAT'S STILL ON TARGET RIGHT? TO, TO A DEGREE. 
          UM, WE WERE WAITING ON ALL THE FIRE FLOW, ALL THIS WORK TO BE DONE THROUGH HERE AS WELL. 
          UM, WE, WE'VE SCALED BACK A LITTLE BIT AND MR. NEW I, I KNOW CAN ADDRESS 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL WORK TO BE DONE ALONG SOUTHWEST DRIVE, UH, I THINK. 
          AND SO WE WERE LOOKING AT HOLDING OFF ON SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE WORK, BUT LOOKING AT LIKE SHADE COVER FOR THE STAGE AND DOING SOME SITE IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE BIT NICER, UH, UNTIL THAT WORK GOT DONE. 
          MAYBE NEXT YEAR, IF I'M CORRECT, WHAT DO YOU, AM I ON TARGET, MIKE? IT IT'S A MAJOR PROJECT. 
          IT'LL GET STARTED NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, COUNSEL NOTICED PROBABLY RIGHT BEFORE THE OLD TOWN STREET VESSEL, WE HAD A LOT OF VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT STAGED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT PARK TO TRY AND FINISH UP THE DOWNTOWN FIRE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. 
          WHEN WE START, UH, RIGHT NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENT WE'RE DONE WITH SOUTH AND WEST. 
          UH, WE'RE STILL, WE'RE CLOSING ON THE END OF THAT DESIGN PHASE. 
          ONCE WE START CONSTRUCTION, IT'LL BE A BIG MESS AGAIN. 
          AND THE OLD TOWN PARK AREA WILL NEED TO, UH, BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THAT STAGING. 
          SO WE DIDN'T WANNA MOVE FORWARD ON ANY MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS OR EVEN MINOR IMPROVEMENTS UNTIL WE WERE FULLY ENGAGED ON THE SOUTH AND WEST DESIGN PROJECT. 
          SO WE KNEW WHAT KIND OF IMPACTS IT WOULD HAVE. 
          WE DO EXPECT AS PART OF THAT PROJECT TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING, UM, HEAD END PARKING ESTABLISHED ON BAGHDAD STREET, BASICALLY WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SORT OF PARKING IN THAT DRIVEWAY. 
          UM, AND ALONG THAT DIRT AND BAGHDAD, WE'RE GONNA ESTABLISH SOME ASPHALT PARKING THERE. 
          UM, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE PARK IMPROVEMENT. 
          BUT ONCE THAT PROJECT IS DONE, OR AT LEAST OUT OF THE WAY OF OLD TOWN PARK WILL REASSESS, UM, SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAD IN COUNCIL HAD LOOKED AT EARLIER. 
          SO HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE BUDGET? 'CAUSE WASN'T THAT ON THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND IT'LL JUST BE TRANSFERRED TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, LIKE KIND OF AN AUTOMATIC, IS THAT RIGHT? SO THE, UH, ORIGINAL OLD TOWN PARK BUDGET WAS GREATLY REDUCED BECAUSE OF THE SENIOR CENTER FUNDING ISSUE. 
          SO WHAT IS LEFT IN THE CIP IS A LITTLE LESS THAN $400,000. 
          AND I THINK THAT ONLY COVERS THE POTENTIAL SHADE STRUCTURE OVER THE, UM, STAGE AND POSSIBLY, POSSIBLY SOME. 
          I'M LOOKING AT, UM, TONY BETIS SOME S SITE, UH, OR SOME, UM, UH, PARKING IMPROVEMENTS ALONG, UM, BAGHDAD. 
          IT'S MAINLY THE STRUCTURE. 
          SO IT'S NOT GREEN PARK STUFF, THEN MAYBE THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THAT EXTRA MONEY COULD GO. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A RED LIGHT OR A PARK WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE AESTHETICALLY FOR DOWNTOWN. 
          SO THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. 
          BUT I ALSO THINK SOME OF THAT SHOULD PROBABLY WAIT UNTIL WE DECIDE ON FACILITIES BECAUSE WHATEVER IS HERE IS GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON WHO THE END USER IS OF THAT PARK. 
          I AGREE WITH THE, THE SHADE STRUCTURE AND THE PARKING 'CAUSE THOSE ARE NEEDED NO MATTER WHAT. 
          BUT I THINK MAYBE FOR THE BIGGER PROJECT WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LATER THIS FISCAL, WHEN WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FUTURE IS RIGHT HERE, WHAT THIS BUILDING WILL BE. 
          UM, I WAS ALSO CURIOUS WHERE WE LANDED. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER THE CURRENT STATE OF, UM, THE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMISSION'S 
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FUNDING. 
          ARE WE BACK TO FUNDING THEM ANNUALLY OUT OF BUDGET OR IS IT JUST THROUGH DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS? WE, WE'VE KEPT THE $25,000 TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE ARTS COMMISSION. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE, THE PROGRAM REVENUE THAT THEY GENERATE STAYS WITHIN THE FUND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEY'RE HEALTHY NOW. 
          UM, IT'S ALL RELATIVE, BUT IT'S A PRETTY GOOD . 
          IT'S A PRETTY GOOD, UM, FUND, FUND BALANCE. 
          AND I, I DEFER TO MARK TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE, THEY'VE GOT AS LONG AS THEY HAVE SOME FUNDING, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THAT, SO THANK YOU. 
          WHAT NEXT ONE FINAL THING ON THAT THOUGHT. 
          SO WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH, UH, ROBIN AND HER TEAM WITH REGARD TO THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN. 
          WERE THERE ANY, AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FRAUD AND, AND SOME OF THOSE ISSUES I'M TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF PARKING AND PAVING, YOU KNOW, FOR USES OF THERE. 
          UM, ARE THERE OTHER TYPES OF PROJECTS LIKE THAT, THAT YOU WOULD SUGGEST WE LOOK AT AS SOME OF THESE ONE TIME PLANS? SO THE, THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN INCLUDES THE, THE PROJECT LIST, UM, WITH THE ESTIMATED COSTS. 
          UM, AND IT RANGES FROM, UM, HAVING THE SIGNAGE PLAN FOR OLD TOWN TO HELP BRING PEOPLE TO OLD TOWN. 
          UM, IT INCLUDES PROJECTS FOR IMPROVEMENT OF ROADS, UM, TO ADD PARKING, UM, CERTAIN STREETS THAT COULD BE IMPROVED, ADD ADDITIONAL PARKING. 
          BUT THERE'S A PRETTY BIG LIST. 
          UM, I COULD SEND IT OUT FOR US TO LOOK AT. 
          THAT KIND OF GIVES ESTIMATE OF COST I REMEMBER, BUT IT'S LIKE, HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE THAT LIST? LIKE WHERE'S OUR, WHERE'S OUR BEST CHOICES? IS IT MONETIZING THAT LITTLE WATERWAY? IS IT, UM, IS IT DOING THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE EAST SIDE? LIKE THERE'S A LOT , UM, YOU COULD LOOK AT, UM, WHERE WE'RE SEEING THE MOST REQUESTS FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND IT FEELS LIKE THAT'S A LONG BROAD, UM, WHERE A SMOOTH VILLAGE WAS AND WILDFIRE PARK, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY THE MORE CHALLENGING AREA BECAUSE OF THE, THE FLOODPLAIN AND THE PARKING. 
          UM, BUT WE COULD LOOK AT IT THROUGH THAT LENS, LIKE WHERE WE SEE REQUESTS. 
          I DO HAVE A QUESTION. 
          DO YOU, UM, FIND THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHERE OLD TOWN IS THAT SIGNAGE IS IMPORTANT? LIKE I GO INTO SOME OF THESE SMALLER TOWNS AND THEY HAVE THE LITTLE FLAGS THAT ARE EVERYWHERE KIND OF DIRECTING PEOPLE. 
          YOU'VE MADE IT TO WHATEVER YEAH. 
          PART OF THE CITY. 
          IT IS. 
          IS THAT HELPFUL? IS THAT A PART OF WHAT THAT SIGNAGE PART THAT WAS PART OF THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN? MM-HMM. 
          IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I BROUGHT UP IS YOU DON'T KNOW YOU'RE THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WERE CONTEMPLATED. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A, A GOOD WAY TO START. 
          AT LEAST PEOPLE WOULD KNOW WHERE, WHERE THEY WERE WHEN THEY GET DOWN HERE. 
          SO, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE KIND OF, KIND OF KEEP COMING BACK TO KIND OF OLD TOWN AND MAYBE LOOKING AT, AT SOME, A PACKAGE TO MAYBE BEGIN THAT FIRST STEP OF, OF HELPING TO DEVELOP AND CREATE THE ENERGY IN OLD TOWN. 
          SOUNDS LIKE THE SHAPE CAN BE OR THE, THE STAGE, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE WE GET THAT DONE. 
          UM, UH, MONUMENTATION, THE SIGNAGE IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE COMPONENTS, UH, MAYBE BROAD STREET MAY BE PART OF THAT. 
          SO YOU WANNA SAY, KIND OF CONCENTRATE, MAYBE LOOK AT A PACKAGE OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE AND, AND HOW THAT COULD BE EFFECTIVELY DEPLOYED AS A TOP PRIORITY. 
          SO I THINK WE GAVE Y'ALL A LOT OF THINGS. 
          UM, I'M SURE YOU KNOW, SOME IDEAS ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS OR WORSE THAN OTHERS. 
          UH, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN JUST GETTING BACK, YOU KNOW, STAFF'S OPINION OF WHAT WE SAID THAT SEEMS VIABLE AND GOOD AND HAS A GOOD RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT. 
          UM, RIGHT. 
          LIKE, LIKE WHY DO WE WANNA INVEST IN OLD TOWN BECAUSE WE WANT TO THRIVE AND MAKE TAX MONEY , RIGHT? WE WANT PEOPLE FROM CEDAR PARK TO COME HERE SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THEIR MONEY. 
          UM, BUT MAYBE THERE'S A BETTER ROI IF WE'RE, UM, DOING JUST A BASIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND. 
          MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE DIDN'T THINK OF BUT FITS IN WITH KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU GUYS CAN BRING FORWARD AND SAY LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN DO THIS INSTEAD AND SORT OF REACH SOME OF THE SAME GOALS. 
          LIKE, I THINK WE'RE JUST OPEN TO ANYTHING THAT'S VIABLE. 
          I THINK, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW ABOUT THIS COUNCIL IS WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITY AND NOT JUST WHATEVER OUR PET PROJECT IS. 
          RIGHT? UM, AND SO IF YOU GUYS COME BACK AND SAY THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITY AND FIT IN WITH, WITH WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE, I THINK WE'RE OPEN TO ANYTHING THAT'S NOT REALLY A DIRECTION. 
          I'M SORRY, . 
          NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I GET, I GET WHERE YOU'RE GOING. 
          SO 
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I THINK WE HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT, I THINK KIND OF GENERAL THRUST AND, AND THOUGHTS THAT YOU HAVE. 
          LIKE I SAID, WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR UNFUNDED SUPPLEMENT PIECE, UM, AND, AND KIND OF BRING BACK A KIND OF A FINAL PACKAGE THAT BEGINS TO KIND OF SHOOT THE GAPS, KIND OF WEAVE ALL THAT TOGETHER. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF PUBLIC SAFETY HAS ANY OTHER KIND OF PRESSING NEEDS OR IDEAS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN LEFT OFF THAT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS AT THIS STAGE. 
          YEAH, I THINK LIKE, EXCUSE ME, LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, UH, YOU KNOW, STAFFING'S ALWAYS GONNA BE THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE, I THINK FOR, FOR ANYBODY IN ALL DEPARTMENTS. 
          I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH, UH, VERY INTERESTING LAST THREE, THREE YEARS, UH, JUST WHEN TRYING TO GET STAFFING WITH, WITH COMPETITIVENESS, SALARIES AND JUST TRYING TO FIND QUALIFIED APPLICANTS, UH, TO COME IN THERE. 
          SO, I MEAN, I I, I KNOW THERE'S ALL THESE CONSIDERATIONS AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS ALWAYS TAKING CARE OF PUBLIC SAFETY AS BEST AS YOU CAN. 
          IT'S JUST, I THINK, I THINK FOR MOST OF US, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE OUR, UH, OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS JUST GETTING ENOUGH PEOPLE AS THE CITY GROWS, THE HIGHWAYS GROW, EVERYTHING WE TALK ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, ADDING ROADS AND, AND BRINGING PEOPLE ALSO BRINGS THOSE SERVICES FOR THE, THE BACK END FOR A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WE HAVE. 
          SO, BUT I KNOW THIS IS REALISTICALLY, THIS IS A BIG PIE AND YOU GOTTA LOOK AT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE JUST THE THINGS THAT I THINK THAT ARE, WE'RE CHALLENGED WITH IS JUST, UH, THE BURNOUT AND, UM, JUST TRYING TO KEEP QUALIFIED PEOPLE HERE, NOT ONLY WITH RECRUITING, BUT RETENTION AS WELL. 
          SO, BUT I KNOW, AGAIN, I JUST APPRECIATE Y'ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, HERE ME OUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THINK PEOPLE AND PAY IS THE ISSUE EVERY SINGLE YEAR. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF US HAVE MENTIONED DIFFERENT THINGS OF PRIORITIZING, UH, COMMERCIAL GROWTH AND GETTING IT ON THE GROUND SOONER BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE MORE MONEY THAT WE CAN HIRE PEOPLE AND PAY. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM, LONG TERM, I THINK THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE. 
          I THINK SHORT TERM IS HOW DO WE MAKE MONEY? DOES ANYBODY DISAGREE? YEAH. 
          I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE BROUGHT UP THE, THE POSSIBLE ACQUISITION OF LAND, RIGHT? AND SO HOW DOES THAT WORK AS FAR AS, ARE THERE STATUTORY THINGS WHERE YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO OUT AND YOU PAY MARKET VALUE AND ALL THAT, THAT'S ONE THING, RIGHT? YOU CAN BUY AS MUCH LAND AS YOU WANT IF YOU HAVE MONEY. 
          IS THAT TRUE? BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO OUT AND DO EMINENT DOMAIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PURPOSE FOR IT. 
          AND IT HAS TO HAVE A TIMELINE THAT IT'S GOTTA BE EXECUTED FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. 
          SO I JUST FIND IT INTERESTING THAT LISD HAS GONE AND BOUGHT LAND ALL OVER THIS PLACE, TIED UP CORNERS, TIED UP DIFFERENT THINGS AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT LAND WE HAVE, BUT, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ACQUIRE SO THAT WE CAN BE IN A POSITION TO BUILD OUT THE SERVICES? 'CAUSE WE NEED A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACILITIES AND YOU GUYS ARE BASICALLY CRAMMED INTO A SMALL LITTLE BUILDING WITH THREE PEOPLE IN AN OFFICE, WHICH IS, I JUST, I FIND IT SAD, BUT IT'S REALITY AND, AND YOU KNOW, WORKING ON ADDRESSING THAT DOWN THE ROAD KIND OF THING. 
          SO THAT WAS A ROUNDABOUT WAY TO ASK ABOUT PLAN. 
          YEAH, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE FACILITIES PLAN IS GONNA BE OUR GUIDEPOST FOR THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, OUR PUBLIC WORK YARD TO ME IS, I MEAN, IT'S VERY CONSTRAINED. 
          WE'VE GOT TONS OF OPERATIONS GOING THERE, BUT IT USED TO BE AT THE EDGE OF THE CITY. 
          IT'S NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NEXT TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IS THERE, SO IN MY MIND, JUST TODD TALKING OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD, I WOULD LOVE THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO ACQUIRE SOME LAND AND, AND TO MOVE A CENTRALIZED OPERATION THERE THAT ADDRESSES ALL OF OUR, UH, MAINTENANCE STAFF AND, AND, UH, CREWS THAT COULD HOUSE THERE AND HAVE THEIR, THEIR SPOTS IN THEIR ORGANIZATION. 
          UM, SO, UH, WHERE THAT SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A TALL ORDER, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS DIFFERENT TYPES OF EQUIPMENT, DIFFERENT TYPES OF NEEDS THAT ARE OUT THERE. 
          UM, THEY WORK DIFFERENT HOURS OR DAYS EVEN POTENTIALLY. 
          SO, UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLEXITY TO SOME OF THAT. 
          AND SO THAT FACILITY PLAN'S GONNA BE THERE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DEFINITELY GO OUT AND ACQUIRE LAND. 
          UH, BUT AS WE ALLOCATE FUNDS, WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING THE APPROPRIATE PUBLIC PURPOSE BEHIND THOSE FUNDS. 
          SO IF WE GO BUY LAND, UM, YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE, IT, IT CAN'T BE A GIFT OF FUNDS. 
          IT'S GOTTA BE A, A PUBLIC PURPOSE. 
          SO WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT FINDINGS TO THAT. 
          UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANNA BE PROACTIVE WITH IT, AGAIN, THAT FACILITY PLAN TELLS US WHAT THE PRIORITY OF NEEDS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND HOW MUCH WE NEED TO KIND OF GO GET. 
          UM, SO, UH, I THINK THE IDEA OF BEING PROACTIVE AND TRYING TO BE OUT THERE IN ACQUIRE LAND WOULD BE FANTASTIC. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE MOST CRITICAL PIECE OUT OF IT. 
          I MEAN, WE CAN COME UP WITH FUNDING TO BUILD A STATION OR TO BUILD A PUBLIC WE YARD, BUT WITHOUT THE LAND, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOWHERE. 
          YOU 
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KNOW, THERE'S JUST ABSOLUTELY. 
          IT'S, WE'RE THERE. 
          UM, SO, AND, AND I'M NOT GONNA CONSTRUE YOU WANT US TO GO CONDEMN PROPERTY? IS THAT, IS THAT RIGHT? ? NO, I'M KIDDING. 
          I'M TEASING. 
          I'M TOO. 
          UH, BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, SO, BUT I THINK STRATEGICALLY IF WE, IF WE COULD DO THE FACILITY PLAN, WE'LL BEGIN TO HELP IDENTIFY AND PRIORITIZE WHAT'S NEEDED WHERE, UH, AND I THINK THAT'S OUR, THAT'LL BE KIND OF WHAT POINTS THE WAY THAT'LL BE OUR MAP. 
          JUST, JUST TO ADD REAL QUICKLY, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION BE MUCH IN FAVOR OF PUBLIC WORKS MOVING, UH, TO THEIR, GIVE THEM AS MUCH LAND AS THEY WANT. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S AN IDEAL SPOT FOR RECREATION CENTER. 
          UH, BEING AN INTERGENERATIONAL WITH SENIOR CENTER ON ONE SIDE AND SCHOOL ON THE OTHER. 
          AND WHAT AN INCREDIBLE PLACE TO PUT A, A, A REALLY NICE FIRST CLASS RECREATION CENTER ON MUNICIPAL DRIVE. 
          SO JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. 
          I AGREE. 
          VERY GOOD IDEA. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM? ARE Y'ALL READY FOR A LITTLE BREAK? YES. 
          SOME CHOW. 
          YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'LL RECONVENE ONCE WE GET, UH, OUR COUPLE CUSTOMERS BACK. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, 15 MINUTES GOOD. 
          OR YOU NEED LONGER OR, WELL, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT PIECE WAS THE VISIONING PIECE. 
          AND SO I WAS REALLY WANTING TO HAVE ALL OF US HERE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          ONE. 
          YEAH, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE EVERYBODY BEING HERE, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          BECAUSE EVERYTHING KIND OF TIES BACK TOGETHER. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE'LL BE IN RECESS UNTIL ONE O'CLOCK. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WITH THAT, UH, THE TIME IS 1147. 
          WE WILL TAKE RECESS UNTIL ONE O'CLOCK. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE ARE GONNA CONVENE BACK INTO OPEN SESSION AT 1:07 PM AND JUST A REMINDER TO EVERYBODY WITH THE MICROPHONES IN FRONT OF US, MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU ARE TALKING, YOU HAVE THE MICROPHONE VERY CLOSE TO YOU AND YOU PUSH THE BUTTON UNTIL IT LIGHTS UP GREEN. 
          APPARENTLY THE AUDIO IS, UH, HAVING A HARD TIME PICKING UP ON THE LIVE FEED. 
          [4. Discuss the City Council’s vision and goals for the City of Leander. (Part 1 of 2) ]
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSS THE CITY COUNCIL'S VISION AND GOALS FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER. 
          MR. CITY MANAGER, IS THIS YOU ALSO? YES. 
          UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND, UH, I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE IF THIS IS RETREADING OR, OR RE PLOWING GROUND FOR COUNCIL. 
          UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT THE CHALLENGES AND THINKING ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS AND PRIORITIZATION EFFORTS THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO DO, AND FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF BUILDING PROGRAMS AND PROPOSALS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER, UM, UH, REALLY KIND OF COMING BACK TO WHAT THIS, UH, COUNCIL'S VISION IS, IS REALLY A FOUNDATIONAL PIECE, YOU KNOW, FOR DOING THAT. 
          SO, UM, THE, THE CONCEPT HERE IS TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH THIS VISION PROCESS. 
          AND I'VE GOT A LITTLE EXERCISE WITH THE, WITH THE LITTLE NOTE CARDS THAT, UH, I KNOW YOU'VE DONE PROBABLY 30,000 TIMES, BUT I'M JUST ASKING FOR ONE MORE TIME. 
          UM, BUT THE IDEA IS TO KIND OF ULTIMATELY PULL SOME INFORMATION OUT, UM, AND TO HELP US AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT YOUR THINKING IS AND WHAT, WHAT ARE Y'ALL THINKING REALLY AS A GROUP, AS A COUNCIL GROUP. 
          SO, UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY AND I LITERALLY MEAN EVERYBODY HERE, UH, SUBMITTING BACK THOSE QUESTIONNAIRES, UH, THAT CAME BACK. 
          SO I DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION THAT WE'LL COVER IN A LITTLE BIT. 
          WHAT I WANT TO COVER THAT AFTER WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THOSE ARE REALLY INTENDED TO DO A COUPLE THINGS. 
          ONE IS TO REALLY GET YOUR THOUGHTS AS INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND AS STAFF. 
          THE OTHER IS TO REALLY KIND OF HELP BEGIN TO PRIME THE PUMP FOR THIS CONVERSATION TODAY. 
          UM, AND THE OTHER PIECE OF IT WAS REALLY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK THROUGH AND BEGIN TO LOOK AT WHERE STAFF AND COUNSELOR THINKING THE SAME AND MAYBE WHERE THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF THOUGHT OR MAYBE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF NEED THAT WE CAN REALLY KINDA LOOK AT AS WE KIND OF KIND OF GO FORWARD. 
          UM, SO WHEN I HAD THIS CONVERSATION, DO THIS EXERCISE KIND OF SET IN OUR SET IN OUR MINDS, KIND OF WHAT THE PICTURE OF THE COMMUNITY IS. 
          AND FROM THERE WE BEGIN TO GET INTO THAT ADDITIONAL FOLLOWING CONVERSATION OF, OKAY, THIS IS OUR VISION. 
          HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          HERE'S SOME OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IMPLICATIONS OF THAT. 
          AND THEN FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, THEN THAT LEADS INTO THE ADDITIONAL CAPITAL PROGRAMMING NEEDS OF THE CITY AND REALLY BEGIN TO LOOK AT HOW THOSE CAPITAL NEEDS SUPPORT THE VISION 
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OF THE, OF THE COUNCIL. 
          UM, AND NOT ONLY IS IT SUPPORTING THAT, HOW DO WE BEGIN THE PROCESS OF PRIORITIZING WHAT THOSE CAPITAL NEEDS ARE? YOU KNOW, WE'VE PRESENTED SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, SOME MAJOR CAPITAL CONCEPTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR SEVERAL YEARS, BUT THE QUESTION HAS CROPPED UP, OKAY, HOW IS THIS PRIORITIZED? WHY IS THIS A PRIORITY HERE? AND WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A VISION OR A CONCEPT. 
          THEY WERE POINTING BACK TO OUTSIDE TO SAY, WELL, WE KNOW IT'S A NEED. 
          WE STUDIED THIS AND WE TALKED TO COUNCIL SOME YEARS BACK ABOUT INITIATING PLANNING AND, AND SOME OF THOSE EFFORTS FOR IT. 
          SO, SO IT'S REALLY KIND OF SETTING THE PICTURE, SETTING THE FOUNDATION OR BEGINNING THAT PROCESS. 
          AND THEN, LIKE WE SAID EARLIER, THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A LONGER CONVERSATION. 
          SO IT WILL HELP ME AND HELP STAFF MAKE SURE WE'RE DELIVERING THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS AS A BODY NEED TO SEE. 
          SO IS THAT A GOOD SETUP? ARE Y'ALL EXCITED NOW? SUPER. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE A VISION SETTING THE COURSE TUTORIAL? SO IN MY MIND AS I, AS I THINK ABOUT OUR VISION AND THINK ABOUT, UM, WHAT, WHAT THAT IS, I MEAN, HOW DO WE DEFINE IT? AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S REALLY TRYING TO CERTAINLY LOOK AT THE OVERALL CONCEPT, BUT IT'S REALLY TRYING TO GET TO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM, UH, ENOUGH TEETH IN IT THAT ALLOWS US TO GET INTO KIND OF MORE SPECIFIC THINGS. 
          SO, UM, AND IF YOU KINDA LOOK, AND I MEAN THIS IS, YOU KNOW, YOUR TRADITIONAL THING, BUT THE THIRD BULLET POINT, UM, IS THE HIGH BAR, RIGHT? SO IT WE ESTABLISH A VISION THAT REQUIRES US TO REACH A LITTLE BIT. 
          AND WHERE ARE WE TRYING TO GO? HOW DO WE MOVE THAT DIRECTION? I WOULD TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, A NECESSARY INGREDIENT TO PRIORITIZATION IS NEEDS OR DESIRES OUT STRIPPING RESOURCES. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR BUCKET, THEN YOU REALLY DON'T PRIORITIZE. 
          IN OUR CASE, OUR BUCKET'S REALLY SMALL AND OUR NEED AND OUR DESIRES ARE VERY LARGE. 
          SO HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE AND, AND MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION? AND THE KEY THING FOR THE, FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE THE CUSTOMERS, AND THAT'S ALL OF US INTERNALLY AS WELL AS THE EXTERNAL CUSTOMERS, ARE WE INSPIRING? ARE WE INSTILLING THAT PASSION WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION TO ACHIEVE IT? AND, UM, HERE'S A COUPLE, UH, VISION STATEMENTS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WALT DISNEY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WALT DISNEY, UM, AND THEN WALMART. 
          UH, THAT VISION STATEMENT IS ACTUALLY A 2023 VISION STATEMENT. 
          SO THIS IS THEIR STATEMENT FROM JUST WITHIN THE LAST 12 MONTHS. 
          SO IT'S KINDA INTERESTING, BUT I THINK THOSE KIND OF WERE INTERESTING VISION STATEMENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ONE SENTENCE, THEY'RE NOT A TAGLINE. 
          THEY ACTUALLY GIVE YOU SOME DEFINITION. 
          AND THAT'S THE KEY POINT. 
          THESE VISION STATEMENTS DON'T HAVE TO BE THE ONE LINER, THE QUICK HITTER, THEY, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE EXPLANATORY AND OPERABLE AGAIN. 
          SO WHAT DO WE WANT TO INCLUDE IN THE VISION STATEMENT? WHO WE ARE, UM, WHAT ARE WE DOING AND, AND WHY ARE WE DOING IT? AND HOW IS IT MAKING A DIFFERENCE? AND WHO IS BENEFITING FROM WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND WHO WE'RE TRYING TO BE? AND THEN AGAIN, WHAT ARE WE ACHIEVING THROUGH THAT PROCESS? SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE KEY ELEMENTS THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE DEVELOP AND WE MOVE FORWARD IN THAT PROCESS, UM, WE NEED TO BE LOOKING FIVE TO 10 YEARS OUT IN THIS PROCESS. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, WHAT DOES THE WORLD LOOK LIKE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE? AND HOW WILL OUR TARGETED FOLKS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY BE AFFECTED BY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND HOW WE'RE ENVISIONING WHAT OUR ORGANIZATION IS? THAT'S THE TUTORIAL. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO BACK THROUGH THAT AGAIN? I'M JUST KIDDING. 
          SO WE HAVE A COUPLE SCRIBES, UH, UP ON THE DAIS. 
          HELLO. 
          SCRIBES. 
          . 
          SO THIS'LL BE, UH, JUST OUR BRAINSTORMING, EXERCISING, AND BRAINSTORMING PROCESS. 
          AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE COUNSEL TO DO, PLEASE, IS TO BEGIN A CONVERSATION. 
          I HAVE ONE SIMPLE QUESTION, UM, THAT I'LL ASK, BUT HERE'S WHAT THE PROCESS WILL BE, IS WE'LL KEEP GOING AND, AND BRAINSTORMING ON THIS QUESTION UNTIL WE'VE EXHAUSTED ALL THE GREAT IDEAS. 
          THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A BAD IDEA, RIGHT? IN BRAINSTORMING, THERE'S JUST BRILLIANCE. 
          UM, AND SO WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF DOCUMENTING ALL THOSE THINGS. 
          THEN WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF ORGANIZING THOSE AND, AND WORKING THROUGH A PROCESS. 
          SO WE HAVE A TABLE BACK HERE. 
          SO ONCE WE GO THROUGH OUR 
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BRAINSTORMING PROCESS, WE'RE GONNA KIND OF GET UP AND WE'RE GONNA START TO ORGANIZE OUR THOUGHTS, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND SO ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND WE WILL LOOK AT HOW WHAT WE DID TODAY REALLY BEGINS TO COMPARE TO WHAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT FROM AN INDIVIDUAL PERSPECTIVE. 
          SO ARE Y'ALL READY? Y'ALL EXCITED? IS THE AUDIENCE EXCITED? THEY'RE EXCITED PERFORMING . 
          WE DIDN'T PRACTICE THAT REALLY. 
          SO, ALL RIGHT, SO HERE'S YOUR QUESTION. 
          WHAT IS IT THAT THE CITY OF LEANDER IS SUPPOSED TO DO? DO YOU WANT US TO GO DOWN THE LINE OR JUST SO WE MAYOR, YOU CAN HANDLE IT. 
          WE CAN GO DOWN THE LINE. 
          UH, AS Y'ALL THINK ABOUT IT, YOU WANNA THROW IT OUT? DORIS'S SAYING GO DOWN THE LINE. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          WELL, SURE THING. 
          DORIS SAYS GO DOWN THE LINE. 
          SO STARTING WITH PLACE ONE. 
          WELL, I MEAN THIS HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE DO. 
          OKAY. 
          TRYING TO THINK OF SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          UM, I THINK TO ME, SAFETY'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE, WE NEED, THAT WE NEED RELIABILITY WHEN IT COMES TO SERVICES, AND WE NEED IT TO BE A CLEAN PLACE. 
          OKAY, HERE WE GO. 
          PROVIDE RESOURCES TO HELP ME LIVE MY DAILY LIFE. 
          SO WATER, UTILITIES, THINGS LIKE THAT, ROADS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? WHAT IS THE CITY OF LEANDER SUPPOSED TO DO? WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO AT OUR MOST BASIC LEVEL, WE PROVIDE FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS, UM, ARE JUST TAKEN CARE OF AND THEIR BASIC NEEDS. 
          I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING UNIQUE. 
          I MEAN, MY MIND FIRST WENT TO THE, THE, THE ROADS, THE WATER, THE, THE BASICS THAT PEOPLE NEED TO AT A CORE LEVEL. 
          YEAH, SAME. 
          I THINK WE, WE GOT ASKED A QUESTION ON THE QUESTIONNAIRE AND, UM, OUR JOBS ARE PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN A GREAT ROAD NETWORK TO PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN CLEAN AND RELIABLE WATER SYSTEM AND MAKING SURE THAT LEANER IS A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE. 
          BUT IN, IN, IN ADDITION TO THOSE THINGS, WHICH I THINK THAT'S OUR MAIN THREE, UM, WE NEED TO CREATE A BIG, A GREAT ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR STAFF. 
          I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A, A GREAT, GREAT ENVIRONMENT TO, TO GROW A AWESOME STAFF. 
          UM, AND WE SHOULD PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, UM, I WOULD SAY ENOUGH AMENITIES FOR THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE HERE SO THEY CAN GROW THEIR FAMILIES AND STAY HERE TOO. 
          I'M RIDING LIGHT WITH EVERYONE ELSE. 
          WE NEED TO KEEP OUR RESIDENTS SAFE. 
          YOU KNOW, FOLKS NEED, WHEN THEY GO TO TURN THE WATER ON, IT NEEDS TO ACTUALLY BE THERE. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, FOR THEM TO TRUST US AS WELL, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'RE NOT PUTTING ANYTHING IN THERE THAT'S GONNA HARM THEM OR BE BAD FOR THEIR FAMILIES OR FOR THEIR KIDS. 
          AND A GOOD TRANSPORTATION NETWORK'S VERY IMPORTANT SO THEY CAN GET AROUND. 
          UM, THAT BRINGS QUALITY OF LIFE, IN MY OPINION. 
          IF YOU'RE STUCK IN TRAFFIC, THAT'S NOT VERY GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE, YOU'RE GETTING FROM POINT A TO POINT B, YOU GET GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          WHEN I HEAR THE QUESTION, WHAT DOES THE CITY NEED MY MIND AUTOMATICALLY GOES TO IF WE WERE IN DIRE STRAITS, WHAT ARE THE MOST BASIC THINGS? AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT HEALTH AND SAFETY, UM, PIECE. 
          BUT THERE'S SO MANY THINGS I THINK THAT WE WANT, LIKE, WE WANT TO HAVE GOOD PARKS, WE WANT TO HAVE GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE, WE WANT TO HAVE HAPPY STAFF. 
          UM, JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. 
          WELL, AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD, UH, CREATE A BUS BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT SO THAT BUSINESSES CAN THRIVE. 
          AND SO THAT ENCOMPASSES A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS LATER TO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND AGAIN, THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE CITY SUPPOSED TO DO? WHAT IS THE CITY SUPPOSED TO DO? SO WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT, THAT YOU THINK NEED TO BE DONE? ONE, I GOT ONE MORE. 
          WE PROVIDE GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE. 
          WE SHOULD DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          FROM US AND FROM EVERYBODY. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY, UH, UH, BASICALLY ENFORCE THE RULES AND THE LAWS AND FOLLOW THE, THE CODE THAT'S OUT THERE. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE, PART OF THE THING NECESSITY THE CITY NEEDS TO DO, BECAUSE BASICALLY THEY'RE THE ARBITRATOR OF WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG IN THAT AREA THAT THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER. 
          SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE GAMUT OF SOURCES THAT THE CITY OFFERS, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, SURE WE KNOW THOSE THINGS, BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT LEANDER IS, HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE IT? WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS IT DOING? WHAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY IS IT? WHAT, WHAT COMPRISES WHAT YOU VIEW AS WHAT LEANDER SHOULD ASPIRE TO BE? GO DOWN THE LINE, PLACE ONE 
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GO IN REVERSE ORDER. 
          SO IF YOU, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE CITY OF LEANDER AND THINK 5, 10, 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, AND WHAT IS THAT COMMUNITY? WHAT IS IT, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? SO I WOULD LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF LEANDER AND LOOKING BACK AND TELLING THE PAST LEANDER, UM, OR ACKNOWLEDGING THE PROCESS AND THE PATH THAT LEANDER TOOK TO BECOME THE EXAMPLE FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW IN SURROUNDING CITIES. 
          WHAT THAT IS SPECIFICALLY, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO CREATE OUR VISION AND FOLLOW THAT VISION THAT CAN BE DIFFERENT AS OPPOSED TO WHAT, WHAT I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS BECAUSE OF THE RAPID GROWTH. 
          IT'S JUST CONSTANTLY PLAYING CATCH UP AND HOW, HOW DO WE MANAGE WHAT'S COMING IN AS OPPOSED TO, UH, CREATING WHAT WE WANT. 
          SO NOW WE'RE IN A, IN THAT POSITION WHERE WE CAN DO THAT. 
          SO IN THE FUTURE, I'D LIKE TO LOOK BACK AND SAY, WOW, WE REALLY DID A GOOD JOB AT THAT. 
          SO THAT'S MANAGED GROWTH? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          BEAUTIFUL. 
          HEALTHY, FUN, MANAGED GROWTH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND IF I CAN, LET'S DIVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THAT. 
          SO WHEN YOU SAY MANAGED GROWTH, WHAT TO, TO WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU MANAGING? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO CREATE BALANCE THROUGH THE MANAGEMENT OF THAT GROWTH BALANCE. 
          BALANCE, YES. 
          INCREASING THE COMMERCIAL. 
          UM, I CAN'T SAY STOP RESIDENTIAL, BUT HAVE MORE WHERE IT'S BALANCED, WHERE WE'VE GOT MORE COMMERCIAL GROWTH TO HANDLE THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH AND RANDALL'S GONNA DO THAT. 
          SO . 
          SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GOING FOR THE ASPIRATIONAL KIND OF THING WOULD BE IS THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE LEANER BECOME A DESTINATION. 
          I'D LIKE TO, PEOPLE SAY, HEY, I WANT TO GO TO LEANDER EITHER FOR AN EVENT OR BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMETHING THEY WANT. 
          SO THAT'S PART OF IT. 
          THE OTHER PART OF IT IS I WOULD LIKE TO WHERE, WHERE PEOPLE WANNA LIVE AND WORK, YOU KNOW, SO RIGHT NOW PEOPLE PRETTY MUCH JUST LIVE HERE AND THEN A BUNCH OF US WORK AT HOME AND THEN THE REST OF EVERYBODY ELSE COMMUTE SOMEWHERE. 
          AND SO IT'D BE NICE IF WE COULD, YOU COULD LIVE AND WORK IN THE SAME PLACE. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHEN WE KIND OF LOOK FORWARD, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE NEED TO BUILD OUT NOW. 
          THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO HAVE, LIKE, LIKE CATHERINE WAS SAYING, YOU NEED BALANCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, HOUSING AND OPPORTUNITIES IN ORDER TO HAVE BUSINESSES THAT CAN HIRE PEOPLE THAT CAN LIVE IN THE HOUSES THAT LIVE HERE. 
          AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE PART ABOUT IF YOU WANNA LIVE WHERE YOU WORK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, THAT QUALITY OF SERVICES THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE BUSINESSES THAT CAN BASICALLY GIVE YOU WHAT YOU NEED. 
          AND SO, AND SO THAT BECOMES IN ESSENCE A WELL-ROUNDED COMMUNITY WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE ALL MATTRESS STORES, YOU HAVE MATTRESS STORES, DENTISTS AND, AND, UM, INSURANCE COMPANIES AND GROCERY STORES, AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS OF COURSE, BUT THOSE ARE THE FOUR THAT I JUST THOUGHT OF. 
          THAT SEEMS TO BE EVERYWHERE. 
          BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WOULD SAY ASPIRATIONALLY, UM, PUT MY NOTE. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US EMPLOY A JUST RIGHT KIND OF ATTITUDE, UM, TOWARDS WHATEVER WE DO. 
          AND THAT, AND THAT'S HARD, THAT'S HARD TO SAY. 
          WHAT'S THE JUST RIGHT, WHAT'S THE JUST RIGHT FIT FOR ENTERTAINMENT? WHAT'S THE JUST RIGHT FIT FOR THE OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE? BUT IN MY MIND, THAT'S WHAT I THINK WOULD BE THE PERFECT SITUATION THAT WE HAVE. 
          JUST ENOUGH OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE HAPPY AND SATISFIED AND FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          AND FOR ME IT WOULD BE MAYBE HAVING A FOCUS AND A HUB AROUND EDUCATION. 
          SO MAYBE WE DO BECOME THE PREMIER AREA OF EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS OR WITH MUSEUMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT'S SURROUNDING US AND WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE FOCUSED ON, WHAT WOULD HELP US STAND OUT AND BE DIFFERENT AND DRAW SOME PEOPLE HERE, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I THINK ABOUT. 
          I WAS IN A SEMINAR ONCE AND THE SPEAKER ENCOURAGED US TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF OUR CITY WAS, YOU KNOW, GETTING LIKE A WORLD RECORD OR WHATEVER, UM, WHAT WOULD WE WANT IT TO BE? AND UM, I WOULD WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF THE FRIENDLY CITY, WHICH SOUNDS CHEESY, BUT YOU KNOW, ANY CITY CAN BUY THEIR WAY TO BE AN ENTERTAINMENT HUB OR A SHOPPING HUB, BUT A FRIENDLY CITY. 
          YOU ACTUALLY WORK AT THAT AND, AND YOU ARE CONSIDERATE OF PEOPLE AND YOU HAVE SOUL AND CHARACTER, WHICH A LOT OF CITIES, INCLUDING CITIES AROUND US THAT 
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ARE DOING ECONOMICALLY VERY WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE SOUL OR CHARACTER. 
          UM, FOR A LONG TIME WE TALKED ABOUT HOW LEANDER STILL PRESERVES ITS SMALL TOWN FEEL. 
          WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS THAT PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY KNOW EACH OTHER AND THEY'RE CONNECTED. 
          THEY FEEL AT HOME. 
          AND NOT JUST, THIS IS SOMEPLACE THAT THEY LIVE FOR A, A SEASON OF THEIR LIFE. 
          UM, I WANT LEANDER TO BE THE PLACE THAT YOU WANT TO RAISE YOUR FAMILY, THAT YOU WANT TO BE IN, THAT BUSINESSES WANT TO BE IN BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT IT'S SUCH A GREAT COMMUNITY. 
          UM, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST SORT OF MY VISION. 
          AND I GUESS MY TAKE ON IT, THE FIRST THING THAT CAME TO MY MIND WAS SELF-SUFFICIENT. 
          WHETHER IT'S FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE, WE CAN BE OUR OWN THING AND NOT HAVE TO NECESSARILY DEPEND. 
          SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING TO OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND US, IT'S MORE OF A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL RELATIONSHIP AND WE'RE NOT HAVING TO RELY ON SOMEONE ELSE, WHETHER IT'S JOBS, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, EASE OF GETTING AROUND THE COMMUNITY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT JUST MAKES US THAT WE CAN DO US ALRIGHT WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S LEFT. 
          SO, UM, FUNNY THAT YOU SAID, UH, LIKE FRIENDLY CITY. 
          I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING LIKE LOVING CITY. 
          THAT'S JUST WHAT I JUST GOT DONE WITH A WEEK WITH MY FAMILY AND MY KIDS. 
          SO  A LOT OF LOVING GOING ON. 
          UM, BUT AS, AS FAR AS LIKE A, A CITY OF HIGH CHARACTER I THINK IS JUST A, A, A REALLY, UM, REALLY GOOD THING TO ASPIRE TO BE. 
          AND I THINK THAT WE ARE, AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE EVEN MORE, UM, ALONG THE LINES OF, I THINK THERE WAS, UH, BALANCED OR ANYTHING, BUT I THINK BOTH CATHERINE AND NICOLE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, WELL, WELL BALANCED IN A CITY TOO, BUT ALSO JUST, UM, FINANCIALLY SECURE OR STABLE. 
          I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONE THAT I WROTE DOWN FIRST. 
          AND THEN, UH, WE SHOULD BE, I THINK THAT WE ARE, AND THAT WE'RE BECOMING EVEN MORE OF ONE. 
          AND I WOULD WANT US TO CONTINUE TO BE ONE IS JUST A COLLABORATIVE CITY AND SO A, A CITY THAT, UM, THAT WELCOMES PARTNERSHIPS, WORKS WELL WITH PEOPLE. 
          SO WE CAN THINK OF AS WE'RE GONNA HAVE ALL THESE REGIONAL NEEDS SPECIFICALLY WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AND EVERYTHING AS WELL TOO, THAT WE ARE A COLLABORATIVE CITY. 
          I THINK THAT'S SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE. 
          SO I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS MUST HAVE LOOKED AT MY PAPER. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I HAD, UH, SELF-SUFFICIENT. 
          AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT THAT, I THINK ABOUT HAVING ROOTS. 
          YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A HOSPITAL, SO I DON'T THINK MANY PEOPLE CAN SAY I WAS BORN HERE. 
          UM, AND JUST HAVING THAT GOOD HOME TIME. 
          FEEL LIKE THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE FROM, THIS IS WHERE YOU GREW UP. 
          THIS IS WHERE YOU RAISED YOUR FAMILY. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE AROUND THIS TABLE ARE ACTUALLY FROM LEANDER. 
          WE HAD A LOT OF TRANSPLANTS HERE. 
          'CAUSE 50 YEARS AGO WE WERE A VERY SMALL CITY, A VERY SMALL COMMUNITY. 
          SO JUST BUILDING THAT MORE HOMETOWN FEEL. 
          PEOPLE WERE BORN HERE, THEY RAISED THEIR FAMILIES HERE, THEY WORKED HERE, THERE, ROOTS HERE. 
          UM, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE I GREW UP. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I THINK OUR CITY SHOULD BE. 
          LET'S DIVE DEEPER. 
          YOU'RE READY TO DIVE DEEPER. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT MAKES LEANDER SPECIAL IN TERMS OF PEOPLE OR PLACES? WE'LL START THE OTHER DIRECTION THIS TIME. 
          WELL, WHAT MAKES LEAN SPECIAL? YEAH. 
          WHAT MAKES US SPECIAL IN MY OPINION IS WE PRETTY MUCH CAN BUILD THAT FUTURE. 
          YOU KNOW, NOT TOO MUCH HAS BEEN DONE. 
          AND SO WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY HERE TO, TO LAY THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE, WHICH IS OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION AND THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES US SPECIAL, IS WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          YEAH, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT A BLANK CANVAS, BUT WE ARE, WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT BUILT OUT. 
          SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, WHAT MAKES US SPECIAL. 
          I THINK EVERY ONE OF US AT ONE TIME HAS ANSWERED JUST THE PEOPLE, RIGHT? AND I THINK THAT'S USUALLY THE ANSWER IS WHAT MAKES LEANDER SO SPECIAL IS THE PEOPLE. 
          AND I THINK OVERALL IT'S JUST, I I THINK IT'S A, IT'S, THIS IS AN UP AND COMING FAMILY PLACE WITH GREAT, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, FOR, FOR FAMILIES TO LIVE IN NEW HOMES AND ALSO, UM, FOR PEOPLE IN LET'S SAY UPPER MANAGEMENT OF THEIR PLACES TO FIND EXECUTIVE HOUSING. 
          SO IT'S A VERY UNIQUE MIX OF WHAT UNIQUE, UH, OF WHAT LEANDER OFFERS, ESPECIALLY EVEN WITH LIKE, UH, HOUSING NEEDS. 
          SO I'LL JUST STOP THERE SO THAT WAY EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT. 
          WELL, I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF HARD 'CAUSE THE FIRST WORD THAT CAME TO MY MIND WAS OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE ARE ON THE CRUX OF LOSING THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THE GROWTH HAS BEEN SO FAST AND IT'S JUST, AND THE PLANNING TAKES, THE STAGES ARE SO LONG THAT THAT WORRIES ME. 
          BUT I THINK IT, UM, BUT AT THIS MOMENT IT'S OPPORTUNITY TO BE WHAT WE WANNA BE. 
          UM, I THINK BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT A WHOLE LOT OF ROOTS RIGHT NOW, IT IS SORT OF A BLANK SLATE. 
          UM, I THINK THIS IS WHERE, UM, 
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WHERE I THINK THE DIVERSITY OF OUR POPULATION COMES IN BECAUSE IT IS THE PEOPLE, WHICH SIDE NOTE IN 2019 WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT BECAME LIKE A COUNCIL MEME. 
          TO SAY THAT IT WAS THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME WAS, WAS THE BEST THING ABOUT LEANDER. 
          UM, BUT YOU THINK ABOUT IT, LIKE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF, OF BACKGROUND TO YOUR CITY, IT IS THE PEOPLE, RIGHT? IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE NOW THAT ARE SORT OF CREATING WHO WE ARE AND WHAT OUR LITTLE MICROCOSM OF SOCIETY IS. 
          AND THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DECIDE LIKE, THIS IS THE CULTURE THAT WE WANT TO ADOPT AND THAT WE WANT TO INSTILL AND WE WANNA TAKE, WE WANNA LEVERAGE WHAT THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT AREAS ARE BRINGING HERE AND, AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT STRENGTHS. 
          BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S LIKE ONE PERSON IN THIS ROOM THAT'S FROM HERE, , RIGHT? THE REST OF US ALL CAME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE AND HAVE SOME DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE AND SOMETHING TO BRING TO THE TABLE. 
          I OF COURSE, WHAT EVERYBODY SAID, WROTE DOWN THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT UNIQUE. 
          BUT, UM, I'M, I'M NOT FROM LEANDER, LIKE I WASN'T BORN HERE  CLEARLY. 
          UH, BUT I'M FROM, I WAS BORN IN AUSTIN AND RAISED IN AUSTIN SO CLOSE BY. 
          AND I THINK ALONG WITH THE PEOPLE, WE ARE A NEW CITY REALLY, AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE LONGEVITY BECAUSE OF HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE BEING SERVICED IN OUR CITY LIMITS WITH THE DISTRICT. 
          WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE AN IMPRESSION AND HAVE, UM, KIDS THAT DO END UP STAYING HERE AND BEING RAISED HERE, GETTING JOBS HERE, RAISING THEIR FAMILIES HERE JUST BY THE SHEER NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE BEING SERVICED WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS THROUGH THE END SD. 
          SO I THINK THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR LONGEVITY AS A CITY, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT IN THE, I CALL IT THE DYING PHASE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER PEOPLE, WELL, I JUST MEAN LIKE, WHEN YOU'RE IN CHURCH, THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL IT WHEN A CHURCH IS DYING BECAUSE EVERYBODY REACHES A CERTAIN AGE AND YOU DON'T HAVE YOUNG FOLKS COMING THROUGH. 
          AND WE'RE NOT THAT. 
          WE HAVE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE OF THESE YOUNG FOLKS HERE. 
          SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HOW WE EXPLORE THAT. 
          BUT THAT'S WHAT I THINK OF. 
          I'M ONLY JUMPING INTO TO SAY, JUST BACK UP OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID. 
          I JUST VISITED MY HOMETOWN WHERE WE WERE FROM, AND THEN ROMANS ARE SO SLOW, ARE SO SMALL THAT THEY'RE LETTING KIDS GO TO WHATEVER SCHOOL THEY WANT AS LONG AS YOU'LL STAY IN THE DISTRICT SOMEWHERE BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO LIVE IN THOSE AREAS. 
          SO IT'S EXACTLY RIGHT NOW I'M WATCHING IT HAPPEN, UM, IN OTHER, IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY TOO. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          SO FOR ME, YOU KNOW, I'VE LIVED IN THIS AREA IN LEANDER FOR FIVE YEARS AND PROBABLY THAT CEDAR PARK, PENNSYLVANIA, CALIFORNIA AND COLORADO. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT PLACES I'VE LIVED IN HAD AN IDENTITY AND DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          BUT WHEN THE REASON I MOVED HERE WAS BECAUSE MY MOM LIVED HERE AND I WANTED TO BE NEAR MY MOM. 
          AND, UM, AND SO WHEN I SIT HERE AND I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHY WOULD I MOVE HERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NICE HOUSES. 
          THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY SAY THEY'RE GOOD SCHOOLS AND, UM, AND THINGS, BUT I, IT IS, IT'S HARD AND, AND TO TO TO, TO NAIL IT DOWN BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, I THINK OF, YOU KNOW, THE, I GUESS THE NEANDERTHAL WOMAN, I THINK OF THE, THE THINGS, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT MAKE US UNIQUE AND SPECIAL. 
          UH, BUT I DO THINK THAT WHEN IT COMES BACK TO THIS, THE POSSIBILITIES BECAUSE THIS AREA'S BEING BUILT OUT AND THERE'S A WAY TO DEFINE WHAT YOU ARE. 
          AND WHEN MOST PLACES YOU GO TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I, WHEN I WAS GROWING UP IN AURORA, COLORADO, I MEAN THEIR, THEIR VISION WAS BUILD HOUSES, BUILD HOUSES, BUILD HOUSES. 
          THAT'S WHAT THEY DID. 
          AND THEY JUST WENT ON AND ON AND ON. 
          AND I HAVEN'T BEEN BACK THERE IN LIKE 25 YEARS, BUT I THINK THEY BUILT EVEN FURTHER. 
          AND, AND, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE AN IDENTITY. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN MAKE SPECIAL IS BY COMING WITH AN IDENTITY AND DEFINING WHO WE ARE GOING FORWARD. 
          BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE IS A STRONG IDENTITY IN THE REGION FOR LEANDER. 
          THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. 
          SO YES, IT'S DEFINITELY PEOPLE NOT NOT PLACE OR THINGS. 
          UH, I'VE LIVED IN PLACES THAT HAD EVERYTHING, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE. 
          AND WE LEFT  AND CAME BACK TO TEXAS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE. 
          WHAT WE, WHAT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE LACKING. 
          AND I HAVE TO SAY, UM, WHAT, WHAT CHRISTINE SAID ABOUT FRIENDLY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S CHEESY AT ALL. 
          I'VE, I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT MYSELF. 
          I KNOW TEXAS A AND M WAS WANTING TO BE THE FRIENDLIEST CAMPUS, AND LARRY AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW I, I WALK EVERY MORNING AND I WAVE AT ABSOLUTELY EVERYBODY THAT GOES BY BECAUSE IT STARTS WITH US. 
          I MEAN, I CAN'T EXPECT MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE FRIENDLY TO ME IF I'M NOT BEING FRIENDLY TO THEM. 
          SO I WAVE AT EVERYBODY AND SOMETIMES I GET SOME STRANGE LOOKS LIKE, WELL, SHE'S TELLING ME TO SLOW DOWN OR SOMETHING. 
          LIKE, I'M JUST WAVING. 
          I WAVE AT EVERYBODY. 
          DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY LIVE THERE OR NOT. 
          AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S JUST HOW I WAS RAISED. 
          UM, AND I HAVE A STORY ABOUT WAVING AT A GUY ON A TRACTOR AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE MY UNCLE, UM, , BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT AT THE TIME. 
          BUT I WAS TEACHING MY NIECE AND NEPHEW WAVE AT EVERYBODY. 
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WAVE AT EVERYBODY. 
          YOU NEVER KNOW. 
          YOU MIGHT BE RELATED TO THEM, UM, BUT . 
          BUT, UM, YEAH, DEFINITELY PEOPLE. 
          AND WE, WE HAVE THAT, THAT OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, TO CREATE THAT ATMOSPHERE. 
          AND KAT HOWELL AND I TALK ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HISTORY ASPECTS OF LEANDER AND UH, THAT WE, WHEN SOMEONE MOVES HERE, THEY'RE NOT JUST MOVING TO A PLACE, THEY'RE MOVING TO LEANDER AND THEY CHOSE LEANDER FOR A REASON. 
          WE DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY KNOW WHAT REASON THEY CHOSE, UM, WHY THEY CHOSE LE LEANDER. 
          SOMETIMES IT WAS AFFORDABLE, YOU KNOW, TO, IN COMPARISON TO AUSTIN. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THAT DECISION WAS BASED ON, UM, THE, ON PEOPLE. 
          AND UM, AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE THAT OR ENHANCE THE PERSONALITY OF THE CITY BY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, ARE HERE AND THE WAY WE BEHAVE AND THE WAY WE COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. 
          UM, I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY IT. 
          IT'S, IT'S, PEOPLE GO AHEAD. 
          BUT FROM A CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, IN, IN THE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH IS THE CONCRETE, LITERALLY THE CONCRETE, RIGHT? OLD TOWN, DOES THAT HAVE A POSITION IN THE VISION OF WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS? WE TALK ABOUT A MIX OF DEVELOPMENT. 
          WHAT IS THE VISION? ARE WE CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS? ARE WE C STORES? ARE WE HIGH TECH, CORPORATE? YOU KNOW, WHAT ABOUT THOSE ELEMENTS? WHAT ABOUT 'EM, ? WHAT, WHAT'S THE VISION THERE? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK AS A COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING THAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY? AND, AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AS YOU THINK ABOUT JOBS AND MIX AND LAND USE BALANCE? 'CAUSE THE PEOPLE ARE SO NICE HERE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE AND PEOPLE WANT TO BUILD HERE. 
          THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          IT JUST HAPPENS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ARE MAGNIFICENT. 
          THEY ARE. 
          AND THEY'RE CREATING AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY. 
          IT'S ENERGY BEING CREATED. 
          HOW DO YOU HARNESS THAT AND HOW DO YOU USE THAT ENERGY TO SHAPE WHAT THIS COMMUNITY'S GOING TO BE? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW. 
          SO WE CAN CREATE AN ACCOUNT DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY. 
          MM-HMM. 
           THAT GETS WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. 
          SO WE'RE NOT RECRUITING, YOU KNOW, CONVENIENCE STORES OR RECRUITING TITANS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, WE NEED TO KNOW HOW WE CAN BEGIN TO PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S GONNA BUILD THE RIGHT STREETS AND AND KNOW HOW MUCH WATER TO ACQUIRE. 
          SO IN THE VISION, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT, THAT ARE THE ACTUAL PIECES OF THE VISION THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IS HELPFUL IF WE CAN NAIL THOSE THINGS DOWN AND GET SOME OF THOSE DIRECTION BECAUSE EVERYTHING BUILDS OFF OF THAT. 
          MM-HMM,  WE'LL, WE'LL BEGIN TO EXTEND AND GROW FROM THERE. 
          SO I THINK THAT THAT COMES BACK TO, AGAIN, THE PEOPLE AND THE, THE BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO COME HERE, THE DEVELOPERS THAT WANNA DEVELOP HERE. 
          UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND HOW IT JUST NEEDS, THERE'S A PERCEPTION AND THE REALITY, UM, AND THERE WAS A PERCEPTION THAT WE'RE DIFFICULT TO, TO DEAL WITH AND IT'S, WE'RE DIFFICULT TO, TO DO BUSINESS WITH. 
          IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET THINGS APPROVED. 
          AND WHILE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRUE, I'VE NOT DEVELOPED IN LEANDER. 
          UM, BUT WE CAN, BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE, WE CAN CHANGE THAT PERCEPTION, . 
          BUT I THINK YOUR QUESTION WAS MORE OF A LIKE, SO WHAT KINDA, WHAT'S OUR STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS KIND OF LIKE TYPE THING. 
          AND SO YOU, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE ARE WE STRONG AT? WHAT ARE WE WEAK AT? YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN, WE CAN SAY WE WANNA BECOME AN EDUCATION OR THIS OR THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, ALL WE HAVE IS AN A CC CAMPUS THAT OFFERS A FEW CLASSES AT THIS POINT. 
          SO IF WE WANTED TO BECOME AN EDUCATIONAL HUB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE WOULD'VE TO ATTRACT ALL THOSE SCHOOLS UP HERE, GET ALL THOSE RELATIONSHIPS GOING ON AND THINGS. 
          AND I'M NOT SAYING WE CAN'T DO THAT SAME THING WHEN IT COMES TO TECH. 
          SAME THING WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER THINGS. 
          AND SO HANGING OUR HAT ON SOMETHING IS GOOD. 
          AND THE, AND WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE A LOT OF OPEN AND I GUESS UNUSED OPPORTUNITY HERE. 
          AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS WHAT DO WE WANT TO FOCUS THAT OPPORTUNITY ON IN, IN A SENSE. 
          BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE INHERENT AND WHERE WE'RE AT, AND RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE SPACE AND WE HAVE A WAY TO DEFINE WHAT'S DEVELOPED. 
          AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE, WE KIND OF SHAPE IT. 
          UM, IT'S A BLESSING AND A CURSE, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE YOUR VISION AND THIS COUNCIL IS COMMITTED TO THAT VISION, WE'RE GONNA CREATE POLICY, A LAND USE PLAN, MASTER PLANS, PARK PLANS, CIPS ARE GONNA TRY TO AFFECT THAT VISION. 
          UM, AND SO IT'S GIVING YOU GUYS A BASIS TO BEGIN TO EVALUATE CHANGES. 
          INCREMENTALISM, EVERYBODY'S HEARD ME SAY THIS SO MANY TIMES, BUT INCREMENTALISM CAN KILL YOU. 
          YOU KNOW, INCREMENTALLY, WE JUST CHANGE A LITTLE HERE, WE CHANGE A LITTLE THERE. 
          BUT IF WE KNOW OR COUNCIL'S 
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GOING, YOU'RE SETTING, YOU'RE SETTING US ON THAT PATH. 
          YOU'RE TELLING US WHAT WE'RE TO ATTAIN AND WE'RE GONNA BUILD AND BRING THAT TO YOU. 
          I THINK THOUGH THE RESPECTFULLY THAT THE, THE PRESUMPTION IN THE QUESTION IS WRONG, WE WANT A POPULARITY CONTEST. 
          WE'RE NOT EXPERTS IN ECONOMIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE COULD DECIDE WITHOUT ANY INPUT FROM STAFF, THE EXPERTS THAT WE EMPLOY, WE COULD DECIDE THAT WE WANT TO GO ALL IN ON, UM, BUILDING ROLLERCOASTER PIECES, RIGHT? AND I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE MARKET. 
          MAYBE THAT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA, BUT I SUSPECT THAT IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA, RIGHT? AND SO I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN GIVE SOME OF THAT DIRECTION AFTER WE HAVE THE INPUT FROM OUR EXPERTS. 
          LIKE WHAT ARE OUR OPPORTUNITIES? WHAT ECONOMICALLY, WHAT ARE OUR STRENGTHS? UM, WE DEFINITELY WANT SOMETHING THAT IS BALANCED. 
          SO IF THERE'S A DOWNTURN IN ONE INDUSTRY, WE'RE STILL STABLE. 
          BUT I DON'T THINK ANY OF US HONESTLY IS QUALIFIED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE ECONOMIC DIRECTION WE SHOULD PLAN FOR. 
          AND, AND, AND LET ME CORRECT THAT TODAY. 
          CLARIFY TODAY, . 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE BECAUSE I'M NOT ASKING Y'ALL TO TELL US THAT TODAY WE WANT THIS KIND OF BUSINESS, BUT, BUT IT KIND OF GOES BACK, ARE YOU A BEDROOM COMMUNITY? ARE, ARE YOU A, UH, DO YOU SEE YOURSELF AS MORE OF A CORPORATE COMMUNITY? I MEAN, ARE YOU, ARE YOU MORE LIKE A PLANO OR A FRISCO? ARE YOU MORE LIKE A MIDLOTHIAN? RIGHT? WHICH IS MORE A CORE INDUSTRIAL TYPE KIND OF TOWN. 
          AND, BUT PART OF THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT VISION AND WE'LL GO TO WORK AND WE'LL BRING IN THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND WE'LL BRING THE RIGHT THINGS. 
          BUT ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS A CONSULTANT'S GONNA ASK YOU AS COUNSEL IS WHERE ARE YOU TRYING TO GO? AND SO UNDERSTANDING THE OVERALL DIRECTION OF WHERE YOU WANT TO GO, YOU KNOW, WILL KIND OF BE CRITICAL FOR, FOR US AS WE TRY TO BEGIN TO DEVELOP PROGRAMS TO TRY TO GET YOU THERE. 
          AND SO, NOT TRYING TO GET DOWN TOO FAR INTO THE WEEDS, BUT, BUT TRYING TO GET SPECIFIC ENOUGH THAT WE KIND OF HAVE A GENERAL IDEA ABOUT THE OVERALL CONTEXT OR, OR, UM, UH, WELL VISION, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE PICTURE CITY? WE SAY WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S EASIER TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE THIS AS A, A CITY THAT'S BUILDING CHEMICAL PLANTS, INDUSTRIAL STUFF AND ALL THAT. 
          I DON'T SEE US GOING DOWN THAT PATH AT ALL. 
          I DON'T SEE US BEING SOMEWHERE THAT TRAINS WILL BE GOING THROUGH HERE, CARRYING THINGS IN AND OUT AND ALL THAT. 
          SO I DON'T SEE US BEING A BIG WAREHOUSE TYPE PLACE OR, OR, OR YOU KNOW, KIND OF THAT KIND OF SETUP. 
          I DON'T SEE US NECESSARILY HAVING, BUILDING A STADIUM HERE AND TRYING TO GET A MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM HERE, YOU KNOW, AND STUFF. 
          SO, 'CAUSE 'CAUSE AUSTIN'S GONNA TRY THAT. 
          SO THEN LEAN WILL SAY, WELL HEY, WE GOT THIS BIG SPOT OUT HERE, LET'S PUT A BIG BASEBALL FIELD OUT THERE. 
          YOU KNOW, GET, WE'LL DEFINITELY GET OVER OUR CEDAR PARK, NV. 
          BUT I MEAN, SO I THINK THAT THOSE ARE THINGS WE COULD PROBABLY SAY, YEAH, NO, THEY'RE NOT ON OUR, ON OUR TABLE. 
          AND THEN WE KIND OF NARROW DOWN A LITTLE BIT DOWN INTO WHERE, WHAT DOES MAKE SENSE, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE ALL WANNA DO IS, I THINK WE LIKE THE FACT OF LIVE, WORK AND PLAY IN THE SAME PLACE A LITTLE BIT. 
          I'M JUST GUESSING, YOU KNOW, AM I RECOGNIZED COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS? AWESOME. 
          SO I GUESS WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS, IF I'M ANSWERING THE QUESTION CORRECTLY, IS THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE, AND I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT WITH SAMSUNG AND APPLE AND ALL THE THINGS AND TWITTER, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED NOW, ALL ALL THAT TECHY STUFF MOVING HERE, I THINK IT WOULD BE A SMART PLAY TO SEE HOW WE COULD TAG IN. 
          I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT A SAMSUNG IN MY BACKYARD , BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH THOSE PEOPLE, RIGHT? SO THAT WOULD SEEM LIKE A SMART PLAY AND WE'RE IN A GREAT LOCATION TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ST. 
          DAVID'S ACTUALLY BUILD A HOSPITAL AND TAKE A PLAY OFF SOME OF THOSE SPECIALTIES BECAUSE YOUR MEDICAL COMMUNITY IS A LITTLE BIT RECESSION PROOF. 
          UM, AND THEN SOMETHING MAYBE THAT'S THE OPPOSITE OF THE TECH SIDE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THAT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT VOLATILE AND THAT WOULD, IF IF, IF IT WERE ME MAKING THAT PLAY, THOSE WOULD BE, I WOULD HAVE THOSE THREE MAIN THINGS. 
          AND, BUT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT THIRD ONE WOULD BE. 
          IT WOULD JUST BASICALLY BE OPPOSITE COLOR WHEEL OF THE TECH THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I APOLOGIZE, WE SKIPPED OVER PRO TEM, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD OVER? YOU DID, I'M SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND COUNCIL MEMBER ZERK, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I'M SURE SO I, I JUST THINK THERE NEEDS THAT, WHAT WHAT ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AS A COUNCIL IS BALANCE, UM, IN ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 
          BECAUSE I THINK OLD TOWN SHOULD BE OLD TOWN. 
          YES. 
          IS THAT YOURS? SORRY. 
          DAVID SAYS BALANCE , UM, 
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OLD TOWN SHOULD BE OLD TOWN AND IT SHOULD HAVE A UNIQUE FEEL AND IT SHOULD BE A, AN AWESOME PLACE TO GO FOR PEOPLE THAT JUST WANT TO GO OUT AND HAVE A DRINK WITH THEIR FRIENDS OR IN THE DAYTIME. 
          KIDS ARE WELCOME AND IT'S FRI FRIENDLY AND IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO GATHER. 
          UH, AND NORTHLINE SHOULD BE NORTHLINE. 
          AND IT'S, AND AND WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS, UM, WHAT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE IS, I THINK THAT WE ALL TALK ABOUT BEDROOM COMMUNITIES AND WE SAY WE CANNOT BECOME A BEDROOM COMMUNITY, BUT SOME, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE LIKE BEST ARE BEDROOM COMMUNITIES. 
          AND THAT'S THE THING. 
          IT'S THE SAFE PLACE. 
          IT'S THE, IT'S THE AREA WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYBODY. 
          IT'S A LOT OF HOUSES, IT'S A LOT OF THOSE THINGS. 
          SO HOW CAN WE NOT BECOME NECESSARILY A HUNDRED PERCENT, UM, BEDROOM COMMUNITY, BUT WE STILL KEEP THAT CHARM AND WE DIVERSIFY OUR TAX BASE BY MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TYPE OF BUSINESSES HERE. 
          I THINK I AGREE. 
          UM, AND SAW, EVEN SAW RANDALL SHAKING HIS HEAD LIKE, YES, WE SHOULD BE THINKING, SORRY, BUT I, WHEN YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD WHEN WE'RE SAYING SOMETHING OTHER THINGS LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE ON THE, WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. 
          UM, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE OF THE COMPANIES THAT ARE COMING HERE REGIONALLY, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE SAMSUNG FACTORY. 
          WE WANT, WE WANT SOME OF THE CORPORATE OFFICES THAT GO ALONG WITH SOME OF THESE, THE, THE COMPANIES THAT WORK WITH THEM TOO. 
          WE WANT THEIR CORPORATE OFFICES HERE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WANT THAT, THAT THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT TOO. 
          A NORTHLINE OR SOMETHING SIMILAR WOULD BE GREAT. 
          UM, BUT PRESERVING, I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB IN RECENT YEARS OF TRYING TO LABEL, UM, SO, UH, LIKE EMPLOYMENT CORRIDORS WHERE WE REALLY WANT THESE THINGS TO, TO, TO STAY PUT AND WE WANT THIS TO BE THE AREA WHERE THIS HAPPENS. 
          UM, BUT I THINK DIVERSIFYING OUR TAX BASE IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. 
          I THINK WE SAY WE DON'T WANT A BEDROOM COMMUNITY, BUT WE STILL WANNA BE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY. 
          UM, 'CAUSE WE WANT LIKE, THE FEEL OF IT. 
          AND UM, AND ULTIMATELY I THINK THAT, UH, DO I THINK THAT A BUNCH OF TECH COMPANIES SHOULD GO MOVE INTO OLD TOWN? NO. 
          RIGHT. 
          MAYBE THERE'S A BETTER PLACE FOR, FOR, FOR LIKE A, A LARGER CAMPUS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, BUT, BUT, UM, CERTAINLY LIKE, I KNOW THERE'S SOME ARCHITECTS AND SOME REALTORS AND SOME LIKE MOM AND POP SHOPS AROUND HERE TOO THAT EVEN DO WORK FOR SOME OF THOSE COMPANIES COMING HERE. 
          UM, BUT LIKE PRESERVING THE CHARACTER OF THAT, OF THAT ONE AREA COULD BE SOMETHING FOR THE HISTORY OF THIS CITY. 
          AND THAT COULD, THAT COULD MAKE A UNIQUE PART OF OUR CITY, A UNIQUE HEART OF OUR CITY. 
          UM, SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO BE JUST ONE, BUT WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. 
          'CAUSE THEN IT JUST KIND OF GETS LIKE VANILLA DOUBT AND WE'RE NOT REALLY GOOD AT ANYTHING. 
          I WANNA THROW THIS OUT THERE BECAUSE, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OLD TOWN A LITTLE BIT. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VISION IN THE CITY. 
          WE WANNA BE, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, A FEW ITERATIONS GO BEFORE YOU WERE ON COUNCIL. 
          THE, UH, THE ARTS COMMISSION HAD AN IDEA TO DO THESE, UM, LIKE ARTISTIC CROSSWALKS AND UM, I THINK OLD TOWN WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE FOR THAT. 
          AND, AND THE THOUGHT OF THESE, THESE, YOU KNOW, BRIGHT ARTISTIC CROSSWALKS AND, AND HOW JUST OFFBEAT THAT IS ALONG WITH THESE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE OPENING UP IN, UM, IN THESE, YOU KNOW, 18 HUNDREDS BUILDINGS OR WHATEVER, LIKE THAT COULD BE SUCH A COOL VIBE THAT NOBODY ELSE HAS. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING REALLY NEAT FOR LEANDER. 
          ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? THERE'S NO BAD IDEAS. 
          WHAT'S THE QUESTION AGAIN? WHAT WILL LEANER BE? HOW, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? WHAT'S, WHAT'S IN IT? WHAT'S IN IT? WHAT IS IN IT? EVERYTHING YOU NEED. 
          IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE MOVIES, YOU GO TO THE MOVIES IN LAND OR IF YOU WANNA GO BOWLING, YOU GO BOWLING IN LAND OR IF YOU NEED TO GO SHOPPING, YOU GO SHOP LAND OR ALL THE OTHER LITTLE TOWNS IN THE AREA THEY COME TO, I DON'T WANNA SAY THEY ALL COME TO US, BUT MOST OF 'EM COME TO US. 
          I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK, WHEN YOU LOOK OUT IN RURAL TEXAS, YOU DO HAVE THE ONE, THE ONE LITTLE BIG TOWN. 
          NOT THE ONE LITTLE BIG TOWN, THE ONE BIG TOWN, THE LITTLE TOWN PEOPLE COME TO. 
          UM, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THOSE BIG CITIES AND THOSE RURAL AREAS, YOU, YOU VISIT THOSE AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT TEXAS IS. 
          I MEAN, IT'S LIKE EVERYONE WHO'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT, IT'S THE PEOPLE. 
          YOU STILL HAVE A SMALL TOWN ATMOSPHERE 'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S SO FRIENDLY AND THEY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE AND THEY'RE JUST VERY NICE. 
          AND UH, I MEAN THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANT US TO BE. 
          BUT I WANT, YOU KNOW, CHRIS TOOK MY WORD AGAIN, BALANCE. 
          UM, WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED HERE. 
          AND SO WE HAVE GREAT BALANCE. 
          WE GOT A DIVERSIFIED TAX BASE AND JUST EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE NEED. 
          SO, SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY'S WEST WITH IS, IS A VIBRANT AND DIVERSE, UH, COMMUNITY, RIGHT? THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE UP THIS TOWN ARE, ARE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. 
          YOU'VE 
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GOT MAJOR FESTIVALS TRYING TO COME INTO TOWN AND WE STRUGGLE WITH SPACE, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT? SO THEY WANTED TO BRING 10,000 PEOPLE IN. 
          YOU KNOW, SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT COMMUNITY AND WHAT COMPRISES IT, YOU KNOW, TO ME AN ELEMENT WOULD BE HAVING FACILITIES THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE REGIONAL EVENTS, MAJOR EVENTS. 
          IT'S HAVING, WE CAN HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT ARE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS INTERCONNECTED? ARE THERE TRAILS? ARE THERE BIKEWAYS PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS TO THOSE TRAILS? DO WE HAVE A, THE HEARTBEAT OF THE CITY, IS IT OLD TOWN? AND IS THAT THE IDENTITY THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF THE, THE MENTAL PICTURE, WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS FROM A PHYSICAL PERSPECTIVE AND YOU KNOW, CITIZENS AND PEOPLE WANT AN AUTHENTIC EXPERIENCE. 
          YOU KNOW, UM, DOWNTOWN FRISCO WAS CREATED AT LITERALLY OUTTA NOTHING. 
          BUT IT'S AN AMAZING PLACE AND IT'S KIND OF A MODEL OF THINGS. 
          UM, DOWNTOWN, FLOWER MOUNTAIN, YOU KNOW, SOUTHLAKE BUILT TOWN CENTERS, YOU KNOW, BRAND NEW FROM SCRATCH BECAUSE PE THAT'S WHAT THEIR VISION WAS. 
          THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR. 
          SO IN TERMS OF THE CONTEXT OF THE VISION, YOU KNOW, AND YOU HAVE BALANCE NOT BEING THAT QUOTE COMPLETE VETERAN COMMUNITY, MEANING IT'S JUST NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND NEIGHBORHOOD STRIP CENTERS, YOU KNOW, UM, IT, IT'S HAVING THAT BALANCE OF JOBS TO GROWTH, LIVE, WORK, PLAY, I THINK SOMEBODY SAID. 
          UM, BUT, BUT IT'S THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WEAVE THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE PART OF IT. 
          'CAUSE YOU CAN HAVE A COMMUNITY, IT CAN JUST HAPPEN. 
          AND WE KNOW THAT, I MEAN, THE MARKET WILL DICTATE WHAT THE MARKET IS AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN THAT MARKETPLACE. 
          UM, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GUIDE THAT. 
          BUT IT ALSO MEANS AT SOME POINT YOU MAY HAVE TO SAY NO, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE THAT'S, THAT THAT BUSINESS OR THAT PROJECT ISN'T CONSISTENT WITH OUR VISION. 
          BUT COUNSEL, I CAN SELL THE PROPERTY TODAY. 
          I CAN MAKE BANK OFF THE PROPERTY TODAY. 
          AND AT SOME POINT DOES COUNCIL HAVE THE BASIS TO BE ABLE TO SAY, NO, WE'RE WILLING TO WAIT. 
          WE'LL HOLD OUT FOR THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TO ACHIEVE THESE OTHER COMPONENTS. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE, THE WORKING PIECES THAT I THINK WE'RE DEFINING, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WILL HELP US KIND OF AGAIN, BE ABLE TO CRAFT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THOSE OTHER THINGS TO, TO GET YOU THERE. 
          SO I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY MORE THOUGHTS. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE POCKETS. 
          I'M NOT SURE THAT GEOGRAPHICALLY THE WAY WE, WE ARE SET UP, THAT THERE'S JUST GONNA BE A ONE CENTRALIZED PLACE THAT PEOPLE THINK OF WHEN THEY THINK OF LEANDER. 
          I THINK IT WILL BE WHOLE TOWN. 
          I THINK IT WILL BE NORTHLINE. 
          I THINK POTENTIALLY, I LIKE WHAT MARK SAID EARLIER ABOUT HAVING A REC CENTER NEAR THE CEN SENIOR CENTER. 
          LIKE I FEEL LIKE THERE WILL BE POCKETS ALL OVER TOWN. 
          I'M OKAY WITH THAT. 
          I JUST THINK PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. 
          THAT WE HAVE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT THEY CAN COME TOGETHER AND HAVE RECREATION AND SPEND TIME THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          NOT JUST ONE SPECIFIC PLACE. 
          BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ME. 
          THE PLACE I LIVED BEFORE LEANDER WAS, UH, A LARGE BUILT UP CITY AND UH, AND WE WOULD WALK PLACES AND IT WAS NICE AND WE, WE WOULD WALK, THERE WERE TWO LITTLE SHOPPING DISTRICTS THAT YOU WOULD WALK TO. 
          AND WHAT, WHAT THEY DID OUT THERE WAS THEY WOULD DO A LOT OF POCKET PARKS. 
          SO WE HAD POCKET PARKS IN ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE HAD POCKET PARKS IN THE SHOPPING AREAS. 
          AND IT WAS FANTASTIC BECAUSE YOU WOULD JUST GO TO A SHOPPING AREA JUST TO KILL TIME, NOT EVEN IF YOU'RE SHOPPING, BECAUSE YOU COULD JUST KIND OF WANDER AROUND AND TAKE THE KIDS OVER TO THE POCKET PARK AND YOU KNOW, GET THEIR ENERGY OUT. 
          AND IT WAS JUST A PLACE TO BE. 
          AND UM, AND IT WAS VIBRANT. 
          AND I REMEMBER, UM, WATCHING MY KIDS IN ONE OF THESE PLAYGROUNDS, WHICH WAS LITERALLY IN A PARKING LOT AND IT'S LIKE GATED OFF TO, TO KEEP THEM SAFE AND THINKING WHO WOULDN'T WANNA LIVE HERE? AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING A SPACE FOR FESTIVALS, LIKE THAT'S WHAT I WANT. 
          I WANT PEOPLE TO COME HERE FOR SOME EVENT, HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN GO TO AND LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE AND SAY, I REALLY WANNA LIVE HERE. 
          UM, AND IF WE ARE JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER SUBURB, YOU ARE NOT GONNA HAVE THAT FEELING. 
          BUT IF WE HAVE SOMETHING UNIQUE AND THOUGHTFUL, THOSE LITTLE TOUCHES, I THINK WE CAN BE THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT ELSE YOU GOT FOR US? ARE Y'ALL TIRED OF THIS EXERCISE? IS THERE MORE ? IS THIS HARD? WE CAN KEEP GOING, BUT I, I THINK, UM, IF Y'ALL ARE READY, SO DARA, DO WE HAVE OUR CARDS? OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, SO IN THIS PART OF IT, UM, WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD BEG Y'ALL TO DO IS WE'LL PILE 
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THE CARDS BACK OVER HERE ON THE TABLES BACK HERE. 
          I LIKE TO GO THROUGH AND ORGANIZE THOSE CARDS INTO RELATED STACKS. 
          SO THE THINGS THAT ARE INTEGRATED, LET'S, LET'S KIND OF COORDINATE THOSE. 
          AND THEN FROM THERE, LET'S TITLE WHAT, WHAT EACH ONE OF THOSE PIECES ARE. 
          AND THOSE WILL KIND OF BECOME THE BUILDING BLOCKS OF WHAT OUR VISION IS AS WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING THINGS THAT ARE RELATED WOULD GET STACKED TOGETHER? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA CREATE AN INTEGRATED GROUPS LIST AND THEN WE'RE GONNA IDENTIFY WHAT THAT TOPIC IS. 
          WHAT IS IT THAT THAT STACK OF CARDS REPRESENTS? OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          DO THAT. 
          NO, Y'ALL ARE GOING TO, WE'VE GOT A WORKING TABLE RIGHT OVER HERE. 
          ALL BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK. 
          YOU JUST MUFFLE IT LIKE YOU A CAR. 
          . 
          POSSIBILITIES. 
          UH, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I THINK THAT'S COLLABORATIVE. 
          JUST PUT IT THERE FOR NOW AND THEN WE'LL SEE. 
          WELL THIS IS OPPORTUNITY FOR LONGEVITY. 
          OH, POPULATION. 
          SO THIS IS LIKE, IT'S LIKE FUTURE LIKE MM-HMM. 
          . 
          WE GOT A LOT, WE GOT A LOT OF CHANCES. 
          WE GOT POSSIBILITIES. 
          AND THIS ARE TOGETHER. 
          YEAH. 
          I SAY LEVERAGE ALL THE DIFFERENT CULTURES. 
          THIS IS LIKE A D DIVERSE DIVERSITY OF POPULATION OPPORTUNITY TO BE WHAT WE WANT TO DO UP AND COMING FAMILY PLACE. 
          IT'S KIND PEOPLE. 
          , ALL OF PEOPLE. 
          YES. 
          PEOPLE SHOULD BE ON DOES THAT SAME BUILD, BUILD, FUTURE, FUTURE? SURE. 
          IT'S LIKE OPPORTUNITIES, I THINK. 
          YEAH, I THINK GO TO THAT. 
          OH 
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MY GOSH. 
          ALL OF THOSE ARE FILLED IN YOUR HAND. 
          COOL. 
          YEP. 
          OH, WHAT? NO ONE LIKE, NO ONE LIKE US SHOULD I THINK WE NEED A FOR A WHILE. 
          MAYBE WE SHOULD START ANOTHER ONE. 
          A. 
          LET'S DO THAT COOL VIBE. 
          I MEAN, COOL VIBE COULD BE LIKE, BUT IT ALL COULD ALSO BE LIKE, WHO, WHO WE ARE. 
          OH YEAH. 
          I WANT THOSE. 
          IT'D BE CIRCLE. 
          DON'T HAVE TO BE JUST ONE. 
          WHAT DOES THAT SAY? HOW'S THAT? DON'T HAVE TO BE JUST ONE PERSON. 
          IT SHOULD BE DIFFERENT. 
          OH, PRESERVED TAX BASE IS BALANCED. 
          THAT WOULD BE HERE. 
          EFFICIENT. 
          SMALL TOWN. 
          TOWN. 
          UH, CORPORATE OFFICES. 
          SO THIS IS JUST DIFFERENT TYPES. 
          CORPORATE OFFICES. 
          AND THERE'S, SO LIKE, UH, I THINK OVER HERE WE'VE GOT EXECUTIVE HOUSING. 
          SO PART OF THAT, SO LIKE IF YOU PUT THESE ONES TOGETHER, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING BALANCED, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS. 
          SO WHATEVER THAT GOES TOGETHER, HOWEVER IT FITS ON, NOT 100%. 
          SAME THING. 
          DIVERSITY. 
          THAT'S LIKE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT ULTIMATE BALANCE. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS OUR, AND I'M JUST OUR BALANCE TOO. 
          THESE ONES MIGHT END UP MOVING OVER HERE. 
          THAT'S HERE. 
          SO THESE ONES ARE, THESE ARE ARE THE ACT. 
          THESE ONES ARE TALKING ABOUT BALANCE, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          WHAT IS THIS? AND THEN THIS IS ACTUAL, LIKE THESE ARE THE ACTUAL THINGS THAT THESE, THE SUBCATEGORIES OF BALANCE, RIGHT? LIKE WE'RE IN, WHAT'S THAT? OPPOSITE TECH WOULD BE, BUT THEY WANT THAT'S MORE ABOUT THE DIVERSITY. 
          THE BASE. 
          OH, GOTCHA, GOTCHA, GOTCHA. 
          WE'RE STARTING TO GET INTO MULTIPLE CITIZENS, MEDICAL SOMETHING, MEDICAL COMMUNITY THAT'S GONNA GO WITH THE SAME ONES. 
          THE CORPORATE HOUSING AND YEAH. 
          TECH COMPANIES. 
          SAME WORK PLAY BALANCE HERE. 
          I MEAN, AGAIN, I THINK THESE ONES ARE GONNA END UP TOGETHER. 
          I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE HERE. 
          BUT WE'RE GONNA END UP, YEAH. 
          THESE ARE LIKE SUB, THESE ARE LIKE SUB THE OF YOUR GOALS. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL IT'S BOTH THOUGH. 
          IT'S ALSO, IT IS, IT'S ALSO QUALITY OF LIFE, RIGHT? WHAT IS THIS SAY? UNUSED OPPORTUNITY. 
          IT'S THE SAME AS OPPORTUNITY IN THE MIDDLE. 
          THESE ARE THIS, I THINK THIS WAS THE POSSIBILITY QUOTE. 
          YEAH. 
          PUT THAT THERE. 
          YEAH, THAT'S GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT WAY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 
          UM, THAT'S JUST A, I THINK THAT'S GONNA GO TO LIKE VARIETY OF STORES AND LIKE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? THIS OR MAYBE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR INTERNAL PROCESSES. 
          THIS ONE CAME IN, THIS WAS KIND OF ABOUT THIS. 
          I THINK THAT'S IRRELEVANT. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS ONE CAME OUT OF NOWHERE. 
          LIKE WE, WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE. 
          YEAH, IT WAS JUST KIND OF BOTH. 
          HERE I PUT THAT ONE IN YOUR POCKET. 
          SAID IT. 
          OH, IF WE SAID SOMETHING, WE WANNA REMOVE IT. 
          WE CAN TAKE IT. 
          JUST TAKE THAT AWAY. 
           BE UNIQUE AND THOUGHTFUL. 
          THAT'S COME HERE FOR EVENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS LIKE A WANT POCKET PARK POCKET, POCKET PARKS OVER HERE WITH THIS ARTISTIC CROSSWALKS. 
          EVERYTH. 
          THAT WOULD BE A, YEAH. 
          OH, HOW'S THAT POCKET PARK TOO? POCKET OF POCKET POCKETS NOT, YOU WOULD TALK ABOUT POCKETS RIGHT BEFORE I SAID PARK. 
          OH, GOTCHA. 
          I WAS ALREADY READY FOR THAT COMMENT. 
          I WAS LIKE, OH, SORRY. 
          NO, I'M SORRY. 
          I THINK WE SAID, YOU SAID THAT, I THINK THIS ACTUALLY GOES OVER WITH THIS BECAUSE I WAS TALKING ABOUT IT'LL BE POCKETS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          SOMEBODY YOU MIGHT, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED SAYS ROAD NETWORK. 
          BUT WASN'T THAT, DID WE TALK ABOUT ROAD NETWORK? YEAH. 
          THAT WENT WITH THE, WE DID LIKE A TRAIL, LIKE A CONNECTIVITY WITH TRAILS AND SOMEBODY, CATHERINE WAS CONVERSATION AND IT DID COME OUT AS A INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT ALSO THAT COULD FIT WITH LIKE, KNOW QUALITY, RIGHT? THIS IS EDUCATION HUB. 
          SO THAT WOULD KIND OF BE LIKE SOMEWHERE, SOMEWHERE ALREADY. 
          YEAH, SOMEWHERE. 
          EDUCATION. 
          EDUCATION. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          WHAT IS IT? JUST RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ATTITUDE. 
          JUST RIGHT. 
          SERVICES, QUALITY, COMMUNITY. 
          WE ALREADY ALREADY HAVE A, HOW TO SAY, QUALITY SEAT ONCE DESTINATION. 
          WHAT DOES THAT BALANCE STARTED HERE? YEAH. 
          HERE ACTUALLY THIS IS GOOD BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BALANCES WITH THIS. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          WELL I I, I STILL THINK SOME OF THESE ARE GONNA GO TOGETHER. 
          YEAH. 
          EXAMPLE. 
          BUT JUST AS FAR AS LIKE THIS IS OUR BALANCE SECTION. 
          IT ACTUALLY SAYS BALANCE ON, UM, WELL, I DON'T KNOW. 
          DOES THAT GO THERE? EXAMPLE CITY STAFF, WE CAN REFINE IT. 
          GREAT ENVIRONMENT. 
          THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S WHAT, WHAT SHOULD WE DO? THAT WASN'T THE, WHAT SHOULD WE DO? UH, IN ENFORCE RULES, LAWS. 
          THAT'S IN PART OF WHAT SHOULD WE DO? PART TWO. 
          GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE. 
          GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE. 
          SO GOOD PARTS. 
          QUALITY SERVICE. 
          OH SHOOT IT THERE. 
          WHAT DOES THAT SAY? QUALITY OF 
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LIFE EVERYWHERE. 
          THAT WAS POSSIBILITIES AND BALANCE. 
          THE MIDDLE, THERE'S SO MANY HERE IN THE MIDDLE. 
          SMALL TOWN. 
          ALL GARBAGE. 
          WHO SAID THIS? I WAS LIKE, GARBAGE. 
          GARBAGE. 
          NEGATIVITY. 
          I JUST, I SAID THAT. 
          RESIDENT AMENITIES. 
          RESIDENT RESIDENTS OR RESIDENTS. 
          OH, RESIDENTS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THIS IS LIKE THINGS TO DO. 
          SO I'M GONNA BE SHOCKED. 
          YOU NEED TO STOP. 
          I WAS LIKE, YEAH, IN THERE. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          SO NOW LET'S KIND, IS THIS YOUR, IS OUR LAST, IS THIS YOUR FINAL STACK? WELL, LET'S SEE. 
          LIKE, UH, CAN WE ASK ADVICE? LIKE WHAT SHOULD WE LIKE HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. 
          IS IT BEST TO HAVE THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES? WHAT ARE WE? YEAH, HE'S BAILING. 
          HE'S GETTING HIMSELF TO SAFETY BEFORE HE GIVES THE NEXT INSTRUCTION. 
          HE'S GONNA GO TALK TO THE, BUT THE NOW, NOW YOU MUST ACT IT OUT. 
          SO THE QUESTION WAS, IS DIVISION OF WHAT WE WANT TO BE? RIGHT? THAT'S TRUE. 
          THIS IS ONE OF THESE ARE, THIS IS ANSWERS TO ALL OF THE QUESTIONS HE ASKED US. 
          YES. 
          SO HE'S JUST ASKING US RIGHT NOW TO SIMPLY GROUP THESE TOGETHER. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          AND HE DIDN'T TELL US ANYTHING. 
          I SAID WE JUST GROUP THESE TOGETHER NOW. 
          SO ARE THESE YOUR FINAL FILES? ARE THESE THE PILES THAT FINAL? THEY'RE THE PILE. 
          HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT THEY, WHAT ARE THE GROUPINGS FOR? WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO GET TO? SO, SO Y'ALL THINK THAT THESE ARE ALL INTERRELATED? SOME OF THEM. 
          COULD IT MORE THAN ONE? OKAY. 
          SO NOW, SO HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. 
          SO WE'VE GOT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 
          IT'S, SOME ARE CULTURAL, SOME ALMOST LIKE SIX. 
          ONE, TWO. 
          YEP. 
          SIX. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NOW HERE'S THE QUESTION. 
          WHAT WOULD YOU TITLE EACH PILE? OH IS THE BEST TO ME, THIS IS THE PEOPLE ONE POSSIBILITIES. 
          THIS THE PEOPLE. 
          WHAT PEOPLE. 
          IT ALREADY HAS A NAME. 
          WELL THAT'S ALSO LIKE SMALL TOWN FIELD. 
          YOU THINK SO? YEAH. 
          IT SMALL TOWN FEEL IS IT COULD BE ALSO CALLED QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          YES. 
          QUALITY. 
          A LOT OF THESE, THESE ARE ALL PEOPLE STUFF RIGHT HERE. 
          PEOPLE SLASH QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          YES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          WOULDN'T THAT POSSIBILITIES RELATED. 
          I LIKE POSSIBILITIES FOR THAT ONE. 
          POSSI BALANCE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          SEE I ALWAYS CALL THAT ONE CULTURE. 
          THIS ONE. 
          OH, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO. 
          NO, I LIKE THAT. 
          SAME, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS THE CULTURE. 
          WE ARE, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A VISION, IT'S A CULTURE. 
          VERY NICE. 
          I ACTUALLY LIKE THAT. 
          THAT ONE'S POSSIBILITIES. 
          POSSIBILITIES. 
          THAT ONE YOU SAID WAS BALANCED WORSE THAN MINE. 
          YOU ARE TALKING IN YOUR INSIDE VOICE TODAY. 
          . 
          DO WE LIKE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF BALANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OVER HERE? YEAH, THAT WORKS. 
          FEEL LIKE THE WORD KEPT COMING UP. 
          THAT'S, AND THIS IS A BETTER, WE CAN CHANGE IT IF WE NEED TO CHANGE IT. 
          SORRY. 
          SO I THINK HISTORY OF LEANDER, IF WE'RE GONNA SAY CULTURE THAT COULD GO OVER HERE. 
          IT ACTUALLY SAYS CULTURES. 
          IT DOES. 
          YEAH. 
          LIKE I THINK THAT THESE ONES WOULD ACTUALLY GO, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE, YEAH, MAYBE THEY FIT VERY CLOSELY. 
          BOTH OF THEM. 
          THIS IS ALMOST LIKE THE FEEL AND DIVERSITY OF POPULATION THAT THAT'S ALL PEOPLE AND CULTURES. 
          AND I ACTUALLY THINK THAT SOME OF THESE ONES LIKE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF COMPANIES HERE. 
          OH GOSH. 
          LIKE ULTIMATE. 
          LOOK AT THIS ULTIMATE BALANCE. 
          MEDICAL. 
          THAT'S NOT CULTURE. 
          THESE ONES SHOULD HERE THOUGH. 
          SO CORPORATE CULTURE. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL I'M SAYING LIKE IF YOU, IF A NEIGHBORHOOD NOT HUNDRED PERCENT CULTURAL THROUGH LIKE CORPORATE OFFICE, THE MEDICAL, THE TECH, ALL THAT. 
          I, THOSE SHOULD BE BECAUSE THE BALANCE IS, I THINK THESE ONES SHOULD BE HERE MUCH. 
          YES. 
          BECAUSE THIS TURNED INTO VERY MUCH LIKE ECONOMIC BALANCE OF, SO THOSE ALL FIT OVER THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THOSE WOULD GO TOGETHER. 
          AND ALL THESE, SHOULD WE RENAME IT? I THINK THIS ONE IS LIKE UNIQUE VIBE. 
          I KNOW THIS IS VIBE TOO. 
          IT'S MORE THAN S RECREATION, BALANCE, ECONOMIC DIFFERE, RESIDENTIAL HOUSING BALANCE I THINK IS, YEAH, THIS JUST HAPPENS. 
          GENERAL, GENERAL. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CREATING. 
          WHAT'S THIS ONE CALLED? NO, YOU HAVE TO CREATE THOSE INTERNAL PROCESSES. 
          WE CAN'T BE 200,000 PEOPLE. 
          DEVELOP SERVICE. 
          THAT'S GOTTA BE, CAN WE CALL IT WHAT WE DO? OR SOMETHING LIKE THE VIBE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          WHAT'S A SOFTER ARE PEOPLE TO SAY INTERNAL YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE, WHAT'S A MORE LOVELY WAY TO SAY INTERNAL PROCESS? THE CROSSWALKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          THE VIBE. 
          YEAH, THE VIBE. 
          YEAH. 
          LET'S NAME IT FIVE MM-HMM. 
          CAN YOU SPELL THAT VIBE? THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA BUILD THE MISSION STATEMENT OR THE VISION STATEMENT OUT OF. 
          RIGHT? SO 
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WE'RE GONNA BE LIKE, YOU WANT FIVE? WE WANT A BALANCED POSSIBLE CULTURE VIBE. 
          YEAH, THAT'S GOOD. 
          INTERNAL PROCESS. 
          YES. 
          CORPORATE. 
          SO THE BOND IS ALSO A FEEL. 
          HOW'S THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I LIKE IT ALL. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? YOU SHOULD MOVE ALL THE OTHER YOU OYSTER. 
          CALL THAT ONE. 
          THAT ONE WOULD MOVE OVER TO, NO, THIS ONE. 
          THEY'RE VERY INTERRELATED. 
          THEY REALLY ARE. 
          INSTEAD OF INTERNAL. 
          HEY INSTEAD CORPORATE INSTEAD OF INTERNAL PROCESS. 
          THIS IS FOR ALL OF US. 
          INSTEAD OF INTERNAL PROCESS. 
          IS THIS LIKE A ORGANIZATIONAL CULTURE TOO MUCH? NO, HIS QUESTION TO US WAS LIKE, WHAT DO WE DO? WHAT DOES THE CITY OF LANDER DO? WHAT? YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT, WHAT'S OUR JOB? OKAY, SO WHAT? SO WHAT IS ANOTHER SOFT WAY TO SAY THAT? WHAT WE DID. 
          WHAT WE DO. 
          OKAY. 
          WE WANNA CALL THAT NECESSITIES. 
          THAT'S YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS, AREN'T THEY? THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          IT'S MORE THAN THAT. 
          BUT THIS IS HEALTH IS RESPONSIBILITY. 
          LIKE RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          IT'S THE BUSINESS OR GOVERNMENTAL. 
          DEMOGRAPHICS, RESPONSIBILITIES, CITY RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          I LIKE THAT. 
          I LIKE WHAT WE DO. 
          I MEAN WHAT WE DO. 
          RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? DEVELOPMENT. 
          WHAT OTHER THINGS COULD WE DO? I MEAN UTILITIES, HEALTH AND SERVICE GROWTH. 
          YES. 
          AND FORCE'S. 
          CORE FUNCTION. 
          WHAT WE DO. 
          YEAH, THAT'S UP. 
          CORE FUNCTION IS FINE. 
          HEALTH, SAFETY, WHAT WE DO, IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW I'M STRUGGLING IS EVERYTHING'S ONE WORD. 
          I FEEL LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE ONE WORD. 
          OH RIGHT. 
          RESPONSIBILITY. 
          IT NEEDS TO MATCH BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD IS. 
          INFRASTRUCTURE INTO THE JOB. 
          FUNCTIONALITY OF, YEAH, ANY OF 'EM WORK. 
          AND I MEAN IT'S FINE. 
          IT'S WHATEVER. 
          I JUST, SURE. 
          YOU HAVE TO GET RID OF THE HATE IN YOUR HEART. 
           FUNCTIONALITY IS WONDERFUL. 
          I DON'T LIKE FUNCTIONALITY. 
          HOW ABOUT JUST, IT'S JUST FUNCTION. 
          IT'S LIKE UTILIZE. 
          IT'S USED, YOU KNOW THERE'S A HERE. 
          REQUIREMENTS, RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          UH, JUST KEEP SAYING WORDS AND SOME, YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. 
          WHAT WE DO IS PAY THEM. 
          WE DO. 
          YEAH. 
          IT IS BASICS. 
          YEAH. 
          THE BASICS. 
          FUNDAMENTALS. 
          FUNDAMENTALS A GOOD WORD. 
          FUNDAMENTALS. 
          FUNDAMENTAL. 
          I LIKE TO LIKE THAT ONE. 
          STUFF THAT MAKES YOU SOUND IT'S FUNDAMENTAL MEANS SOMETHING YOU NEED TO KNOW. 
          YES. 
          STRUCTURE. 
          STRUCTURE, STRUCTURE. 
          STRUCTURE IS FINE. 
          YOUR BASE, YOUR FOUNDATION STRUCTURE OR MORE WHICH? STRUCTURAL FOUNDATION. 
          FOUNDATION STRUCTURE. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          I LIKE FOUNDATION. 
          FOUNDATION. 
          YOU THINK IT HAS TO DO ONE WORD? DO YOU GUYS THINK SO? I MEAN, NO, IT DOESN'T. 
          I WAS JUST IT DOES FEEL RIGHT THOUGH THOUGH. 
          IT DOES FEEL RIGHT. 
          YES. 
          BUT I AM NOT MARRIED AND YES, YOU I KIND OF, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. 
          WE CAN MAKE TWO WORDS INTO ONE. 
          WE CAN DO THIS. 
          , . 
          I LIKE FOUNDATION. 
          WHAT WAS THE OTHER OPTION? STRUCTURE. 
          FOUNDATION. 
          STRUCTURE. 
          FUNDAMENTALS. 
          CORE. 
          FUNDAMENTALS. 
          CORE. 
          TO BE THE FOUNDATION. 
          IS THE FOUNDATION. 
          THE STRUCTURE IS THIS. 
          SO WE NEED THIS BEFORE WE GET TO THE STRUCTURE. 
          SO FOUNDATION. 
          Y'ALL WANT FOUNDATION. 
          SO WE BUILT A CITY WITHOUT A FOUNDATION. 
          YES WE DID. 
          YES. 
          . 
          SO THIS IS A FOUNDATION AND YOU'RE WANT TO PRETTY AMAZING CELEBRATE AND AND AMPLIFIED CULTURE. 
          NO, WE WANT TO CREATE CULTURE. 
          CREATE THE CULTURE THAT YOU HAVE. 
          CELEBRATE. 
          WELL WE WANT, WE WANNA CREATE A VIBE. 
          YOU'RE CREATING A VIBE AND YOU'RE GONNA RECOGNIZE BY EMBRACING THE CULTURE. 
          GOTCHA. 
          YOU'RE EMBRACING THE POSSIBILITIES AND YOU'RE GONNA ACHIEVE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SEE, THIS IS HOW THIS IS ALL GONNA COME. 
          SO YOU COULD HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT US. 
          I COULD HAVE RIGHT IN MY MIND. 
          ACTUALLY THIS IS THE ONE HE DID FOR HIS, WHEN HE GOT HIS MASTER'S DEGREE OR PLAN. 
          WHAT IS THE WORD THAT YOU HAD IN YOUR MIND? SO THEN WAS IT FOUNDATION OR WAS IT FUNDAMENTAL FOUNDATION? DO Y'ALL THINK PICK ONE, START WRITING AND WHATEVER ENDS UP ON THE PIECE OF PAPER, WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THAT PATH, YOU WHAT SOUNDS BETTER? IT FITS BETTER. 
          ALL THIS STUFF ON THE TABLE. 
          I THINK IT'S FUNDAMENTALS. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          ALL BECAUSE OUR, OUR, THE CULTURE AND ALL OF THOSE ONES, SOMETIMES THAT'S ACTUALLY THE FOUNDATION. 
          SO IF WE HAVE OUR FUNDAMENTALS AND WE'RE CREATING A VIBE, MAYBE CULTURE IS CELEBRATING THE CULTURE. 
          AND I CAN'T READ THAT. 
          I STILL THINK THAT THAT THIS IS GONNA END UP BEING LIKE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING SOMETHING, THIS IS THE FOUNDATION HERE. 
          AND THEN, AND THE MAIN JOB IS TO DO THESE THINGS. 
          THIS IS HONOR, THIS HONOR AND CELEBRATE THIS. 
          OKAY, SO NOW HERE'S THE 
          [02:55:01]
NEXT THING. 
          OKAY. 
          OH GOSH, THERE'S ANOTHER STEP. 
          OH, SO ONE OTHER LAYER TO THIS IF YOU WANT TO DO IT, IF NOT, THAT'S FINE, I'LL DO IT. 
          BUT WHICH OF THESE WOULD BE A GOAL AND WHICH OF THESE WOULD BE GOAL IS ASPIRING TO GET IT TO AN OBJECTIVE IS HAVE TO HAPPEN. 
          HOW EXECUTE HOW YOU EXECUTE IT. 
          GOT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO BECAUSE LIKE YOU'D SAY YOU WANT, YOU WANT FINANCIAL, SECURE AND STABLE. 
          WELL, HOW DO YOU GET THERE? YOU NEED TO FIRST THIS WOULD BE, THAT'S THE OBJECTIVE. 
          THIS IS, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, RIGHT? YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO BE FAMILY OR YOU WANNA BE, WE WANNA BE FINANCIALLY SECURE AND STABLE. 
          WHERE IS HE? SAFE? FRIENDS. 
          SO YOU FIRST, AND YOU WANNA BE A GOAL. 
          IS THIS A GOAL? THIS IS ALSO A GOAL. 
          BE SELF. 
          SO YOU JUST BREAK THEM INTO GOALS AND OBJECTIVE PER, SO THEN YOU CAN HAVE LIKE TEN ONE THREE HOMETOWN FILL. 
          SO THAT'S THE OBJECTIVE, RIGHT? SO IN, SO IN EACH GROUP, YEAH, WE'VE GOTTA DO THAT. 
          THAT'S THE OBJECTIVE. 
          NO, THAT'D BE THE GOAL, RIGHT? THAT'S THE GOAL. 
          I MEAN THAT'S, SO THE OBJECTIVE WOULD BE THE, THE OTHER ONE'S GOING EVERYTHING. 
          SO THEN QUALITY OF LIFE MIGHT BE ONE WAY TO GET THERE. 
          SO THIS IS YOUR GOAL AND THAT'S YOUR TASK. 
          AND THEY RIGHT THERE THAT AND THEN, OR THAT'S YOUR TASK. 
          BUT I MEAN OBJECTIVE, WHATEVER YOU SAY, RIGHT? AND THEN SOME OF THESE ARE DUPLICATE. 
          WHAT WE PROBABLY WANNA DO IS MARRY THOSE UP SO WE DON'T, SO WE WANT THEM, WE'RE NARROW THE LIST. 
          OKAY. 
          FINANCIALLY SECURE, WE'RE GONNA BE, THOSE ARE BOTH GOALS. 
          OKAY. 
          THOSE ARE BOTH GOALS. 
          OKAY. 
          MANAGE GROWTH. 
          AND NOW THAT WAY THEN YEAH, SURE. 
          AND THEN THESE CAN GO AND THEN GO INTO THESE ONES. 
          MANAGER WOULD BE BE EITHER ONE. 
          OBJECT POCKETS NOT CENTRALIZED. 
          THAT'S JUST SAYING THAT YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT AREAS LIKE CAN LOOK ON GIFTS, VARIETY OF STORES. 
          THAT'S GOING SELF-SUFFICIENT. 
          SEE THAT'S ALL I KIND OF LOOK THESE UNDER DIVERSIFY. 
          TAX BASE. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THAT'S HOW YOU BECOME FINANCIALLY SECURE IS BY DIVERSIFYING YOUR TAX BASE. 
          THIS ONE COMPANIES, THIS IS ALL THE DIFFERENT PLACES, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHY IT'S, THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS, THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU BE UNDER DIVERSIFYING YOUR TAX BASE. 
          IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE THIS ALL DOES THIS. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? DON'T BE JUST ONE THING. 
          JUST WANNA TO NARROW. 
          LIVE WORK. 
          PLAY IS MM-HMM  BECAUSE YOU'RE SELF-SUFFICIENT. 
          IF YOU CAN LIVE, WORK AND PLAY ALONG THE SAME PLACE, WE WANT BE A DESTINATION. 
          IS IT ALL? IS THAT, IS THE DESTINATION GO UP HERE? I DON'T KNOW. 
          YOU CAN BE FINANCIALLY SECURE AND NOT BE A DESTINATION. 
          THAT'S ALMOST LIKE A CULTURAL RIGHT OR IT LIKE A SUPPORTING WELL IT KIND OF GOES IT'S, IT'S LIKE THIS BUT IT'S ANOTHER, IT'S LIKE THAT. 
          BUT ANOTHER THOUGHT IT EITHER YOU DO, RIGHT? WE DIDN'T DEFINE WHAT PUT THIS OVER HERE FOR NOW. 
          QUESTION. 
          WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT MORE LIKE THE FESTIVAL PIECE OF I THINK THE ROOTS AND THE HISTORY. 
          THE REASON TO COME HERE. 
          YES, THAT WAS RIGHT. 
          BUT WHY? WHAT ARE YOUR REASONS WHY? SAID SAID EVENTS AND SERVICES. 
          BASICALLY YOU COME HERE TO BUY EITHER NOR AN OR THERE'S ROLLERCOASTER PARK, BASEBALL, WHATEVER. 
          EXERCISE AND EVENTS. 
          EVENTS ARE PROBABLY THE EASIEST FEEL WE HAVE. 
          SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GEOGRAPHICALLY GEOGRAPH FEEL CULTURALLY UNIQUE TOGETHER. 
          WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SHOOTOUTS OF THIS. 
          NOW BACK IN AND THIS PRESENCE CHARACTER WE HAD THE MASS CHARACTER IS OBJECTIVE CHAINSAW, RIGHT? YES. 
          YES. 
          AND ALSO THAT ONE, IT REALLY WAS MASSACRE TOO. 
          THAT'S WHERE THOSE ON 22 POSSIBILITIES. 
          SO WE NEED TO MOVE THIS. 
          I THINK SO. 
          I WE HAVE ONE WHERE WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE. 
          CAN ANY OF THESE GO ANYWHERE ELSE? ANY OF THE OBJECTIONS? WANT ANY ELSE? ANY OTHER ONES BEING GOAL BE? SO THE GOAL IS BE FINANCIALLY SECURE. 
          THE GOAL IS TO BE PROVIDING RESOURCES. 
          IF YOU'RE PENNY SECURE AND SELF-SUFFICIENT, THESE ONES GO HERE, RIGHT? JUST I'LL JUST KEEP THEM. 
          I'M MOVING THIS ONE TO, OKAY. 
          SUFFICIENT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO OUR BALANCE IS WE GONNA BE SELF SUFFICIENT SERVICES. 
          THIS IS ULTIMATE BALANCE IS ACTUALLY IDENTITY. 
          IS THAT A GOAL OR AN OBJECTIVE? ACTUALLY DEFINING, IS IT LIKE FRI QUESTION? YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL ULTIMATE BALANCE JUST DESTIN IT IN THE MIDDLE. 
          I FEEL LIKE THIS IS, SO THIS IS ALSO GONNA HERE BECAUSE THE DESTINATION VARIETY OF STORES, NOT THE AMENITIES. 
          I THINK AMENITIES IS IS MORE ABOUT, OR FUNDAMENTALS. 
          AND THE EXERCISE IS VERY SUBJECTIVE. 
          I THINK THE AMENITIES IS MORE IN FUNDAMENTALS. 
          YOU THINK SO? YEAH. 
          AS GOAL OR THE OBJECTIVE? 
          [03:00:01]
NO, BUT I MEAN HAVING THE RIGHT ALL KIND AS THE OBJECTIVE. 
          THE GOAL IS CAN YOU JUST HAVE MULTIPLE GOALS? AND ALL OF THESE ONES ARE OBJECTIVE. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE TO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY GO WITH EACH ONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          ALL I'VE BEEN DOING ON THIS SIDE IS SEPARATING EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE NEXT STEP OBJECTIVE. 
          AND THEY'RE THE SAME. 
          RIGHT? LOOK AT THAT. 
          SO I THINK THESE ARE ALL THE HELL YOU SAY IS THESE ARE THE SAME LIKE FORCE LAWS TO GET THERE, DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND GREAT SERVICE. 
          I THINK WORK TWICE OUR GOAL. 
          HOW WE GET THERE. 
          I DUNNO HOW TO DOES THE SAME ANYWAYS. 
          YEAH. 
          GREAT. 
          'CAUSE THIS IS LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND THESE ARE THE WAYS WE'RE GONNA ACHIEVE THIS. 
          WOULDN'T THAT BE LIKE YOU'RE HERE COULD BE YEAH. 
          ACTUALLY THINK THIS IS THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT'S THAT? THEY GO TOGETHER LIKE THEY'RE BOTH, THEY'RE GOALS. 
          THEY'RE JUST GONNA NARROW IT EVEN MORE. 
          RIGHT? SO I SAY THAT THESE ARE LIKE, I I SAY LIKE YOU STACK THOSE ONES TOGETHER RIGHT THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S THE BALANCE. 
          THERE'S YOUR GOALS. 
          THESE ARE THE OBJECTIVES. 
          DESTINATION. 
          I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW IT IS. 
          THAT'S AN DOCUMENT FOR ME. 
          AND IT ALMOST HAS TO SHOW IN THERE, WE WANNA BE A DESTINATION, RIGHT? I SAY WE PUT ALL THOSE TOGETHER. 
          OKAY, THIS GIVES, THIS GIVES ME THE DIRECTION. 
          SORRY. 
          SO THIS IS GOOD FOR YOU. 
          THIS IS, YES. 
          WE CAN STOP NOW. 
          IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING CAN STOP NOW ? YES. 
          DID ANYBODY COME OUT IF THEY WANT SPORTS STADIUMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? YEAH, WE DID WANT DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          WHICH QUITE HONESTLY IS THAT FROM AN EXECUTION PERSPECTIVE. 
          SO SO IS THIS TOO GENERAL? NO, THIS IS GETTING INTO SOME GOOD GRANULAR STUFF. 
          SO THIS IS GETTING MESSED UP THAT WE DEVELOP. 
          BUT OTHER ONES, THEY'RE VERY SPECIFIC. 
          WE WANT TO BE A TECH THIS OR THAT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          THEY, THOSE ARE OBJECTIVES, RIGHT? THOSE BECOME VERY SPECIFIC VERY THEN SPECIFIC THINGS OR AN OBJECTIVE, RIGHT? WHICH WOULD FIT UNDER, YOU WANNA BE AN ENTERTAINMENT CITY TO CREATE WHENEVER I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GONNA BE EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID. 
          NO, I'M SERIOUS. 
          THAT STILL WANTS TO HAVE, 'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S WORRYING ABOUT THEIR CREATURE COMFORTS LIVING THOSE SUBURBS, RIGHT? BUT THEN THE MOMENT YOU TRY TO BECOME BIGGER, WHICH INVOLVES BRINGING, DID YOU PUT THIS UGLY THING UP IN THE MIDDLE OF WHEN WE APARTMENT NO MORE THIS LIKE YOU CAN'T HAVE IT THEN YOU DO WANT TO BE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY TO SOME DEGREE. 
          WELL, AND I THINK THAT I WANT MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY AND, BUT THEN I WANT ACCESS TO EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. 
          NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          WHY NOT? WE WANNA BE THE NIMBY CAPITAL OF THE UNITED QUITE NOT QUITE. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          EMBRACE IT. 
          BECAUSE WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK, RIGHT? WE CAN DO THINGS THAT WORK. 
          SO IS IS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WALKABLE? YES. 
          DO YOU HAVE THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT? STREETSCAPING? CAN YOU GET IN AND OUTTA YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR DO YOU HAVE LINKAGES? SO AM I HOOKING UP TO TOWN? TAKING TO, WELL I THINK THAT'S THE KEY IS, IS BEING ABLE TO TRANSITION FROM, AND THEN WE'VE STUMBLED A FEW TIMES TRYING TO FIX THINGS, RIGHT? BUT, BUT TRYING SO THAT NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RETAIL ALL FLOW, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY, THAT YOU WANT IT TO BE ABLE TO, TO FLOW BECAUSE YOU DO, YOU MAY BACK UP TO LAKELINE BOULEVARD, RIGHT? BUT IF YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT FENCING SORT OF STUFF, THEN I MEAN, YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME ROAD NOISE, BUT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL LIKE YOU'RE BACKING UP TINY INTERSECTION IN TO GET REALLY NERDY ON FIVE. 
          SO IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US THIS CONCEPT OF WHAT YOU WANT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR A COMMUNITY ENVIRONMENT TO LOOK LIKE, MM-HMM. 
          . 
          WE'RE GONNA GO TO WORK TO BEGIN TO SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE THOSE DESIGN CENTERS, RIGHT? SO HOW DO YOU PARK CARS IN THAT COMMUNITY? YOU KNOW, ALREADY GARAGES CAN, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT SHOPPING SCENE OR YOU WANT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS THAT GROCERIES, ARE YOU THE ARCHITECTURE? WHAT DOES IT NEED TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT DO YOU WANT THE CITY TO PHYSICALLY REAL? AND I COULD JUST, AND I THINK TO NICOLE'S POINT, IT'S ABOUT HAVING THOSE, LIKE OLD TOWN HAS A FIELD TO , HAS A FIELD TO WHICH I DON'T NEED THAT IT DOES ANYMORE, BUT IT HAD A FEEL TO IT. 
          AND THEY'LL, IT'S FLAT. 
          BUT YOU HAVE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT HAVE, BECAUSE FOR ME IT'S ABOUT, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT CEDAR LAKE PARK, BUT CEDAR PARK IS ALL SQUARE LIMESTONE. 
          MM-HMM. 
           THE ENTIRE, I I WILL NOT WANT ALL SQUARE LIMESTONE. 
          RIGHT? I WANT TO BE FEELS COMMERCIAL. 
          [03:05:01]
IT'S JUST GENERIC. 
          AND I WANT, AND ALTHOUGH THERE'S A LOT OF SHOPPING, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO DO. 
          I WANT LANDER TO HAVE THE DIFFERENT PIECES AND THE DIFFERENT PLACES. 
          SO I KNOW I'M IN DIFFERENT AREAS. 
          I KNOW I'M IN OLD TOWN. 
          I KNOW I'M AT NORTHLINE. 
          I KNOW I'M AT, UM, 29 AND  DISTINCTIONS. 
          DISTINCTIONS FOR AREAS IN THE CDS AND FOR THE IN BETWEEN YES. 
          LEADS CARDS. 
          OKAY, GOOD TO FLOW. 
          BUT WE'RE ADDING CARDS. 
          SO YEAH. 
          SAYS SEE THE BRAINSTORM IS STILL GOING. 
          THERE'S SOME IDEAS THAT ARE SPLASHING. 
          WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE DISTINCTIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          LIKE THE AREAS OF OF THE SEA OF THE CITY THAT ALL JUST LOOK SENSE. 
          THE SAME MONOLITHIC. 
          WE DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE THAT. 
          YOU WANT UNIQUE SPACES, AREAS, UNIQUE SPACES. 
          WHAT'D YOU SAY? I'M SORRY. 
          YOU SAY DISTINCTIVE AREAS? YOU SO AREAS OF DISTINCTION OR DISTINCTIVE AREAS? I I SAID UNIQUE SPACES. 
          UNIQUE SPACES, AREAS OF DISTINCTION. 
          I THINK UNIQUE SPACES IS DIFFERENT FROM DISTINCT AREAS. 
          WE DO OKAY, GOT IT. 
          DIFFERENT. 
          YEP. 
          LIKE YOU'RE LEAVING A DISTRICT OR SOMETHING. 
          MM-HMM. 
           LIKE THIS. 
          WOULD THAT GO TO FIVE? YES, I THINK SO. 
          I AGREE. 
          WHAT, UH, WAS INTERESTING IS LEAVING THE CHAMBER EVENT LAST NIGHT, GOING BACK TO EAST TOWN. 
          THERE'S SOME, THERE'S A FEW REALLY AMAZING ORIGINAL COTTAGES THAT, WELL I THINK WE'RE GONNA KNOW. 
          TELL LIKE YOU JUST AT ONE, THE CHAMBER WAS LOOKING AT ONE, RIGHT? YES. 
          IT NEEDS A WHOLE LOT OF WORK. 
          BUT, BUT I THINK THAT, BUT I THINK YOU CAN, EVEN IF THAT HOUSE ISN'T THERE, YOU CAN BUILD WITH THAT SAME VIBE. 
          IT'S THE HARDY BLANKETS BECAUSE YOU CAN RECREATE. 
          YOU'RE NOT CREATING HISTORICAL STUFF BUT YOU'RE RECREATING THAT FIELD. 
          THINK THAT COULD BE DISTRICTS. 
          DISTRICTS MIGHT BE THE, THE RIGHT NOW DON'T WANT US TO BE SOUNDING YOU ME TO ADD THAT HERE. 
          SLASH DISTRICTS. 
          YES. 
          HUNGER LIKE SPACES, DISTRICT MIND, DISTRICT NINE, THAT'S BRYCE WHITE TOP DISTRICT. 
          LIKE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. 
          DISTRICT 12. 
          DISTRICT 12. 
          OH DISTRICT NINE WAS, BUT I WILL SAY I FEEL LIKE GOING THROUGH THIS, WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY CAT WITH THERE. 
          AND THERE WAS A WAY TO WORK FOR A GATHERING SPACE FOR FESTIVAL OR FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, SO, SO TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TRAINING ALREADY COMING? UM, NO, I DIDN'T SEE WHAT I DO GET THEM ON BOARD. 
          SO NORTH NORTHLINE COMMUNITY SPACE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? SURE. 
          BUT I, BUT IT'S NOT PART, BUT ACTUALLY NOT PART OF NORTHLINE. 
          NOT A PART OF NORTHLINE, BUT JUST, IT'S THAT CORNER THOUGH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT AREA. 
          CLOSE TO JUST SOUTH. 
          SO, SO CENTRAL CITY, SOUTH OF CAL METRO, NORTH OF OLD TOWN IS WHAT IT, WHAT'S THE TOD MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD A REAL SORT OF EFFORT TO SAY WE WANT TO BE HUB FOR A FESTIVAL TO COME IN. 
          'CAUSE WE HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION PIECE TO GET THEM HERE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE DIRECT SO MUCH. 
          WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HAVING, LIKE, BEING KNOWN FOR OUR FESTIVALS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT HAS LIKE WITH THE STAFF, OH, SORRY. 
          WITH CHAMBER. 
          AND PARTICULARLY OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. 
          THEY HAVE TO, BUT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT NECESSARILY TRANSPORTATION TO GET PEOPLE HERE. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          THAT JUST MAKES SENSE. 
          AND EVENTUALLY IT GOT TO A POINT, LIKE ESPECIALLY PARKS AND REC. 
          'CAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, FESTIVALS REALLY NOT A CHAMBER THING. 
          NO. 
          NO. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S A, THAT'S A PARKS AND REC THING. 
          BUT NOT EVEN JUST PARKS AND REC. 
          LIKE PEOPLE SPECIFICALLY SEEKING THE CITY HOUSING TO HOLD THE FESTIVAL CHAMBER. 
          OH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SPACE AND TRANSPORTATION TO GIVE PEOPLE, EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE A HOTEL RIGHT HERE, THEY CAN TAKE THE TRAIN FROM AUSTIN AND COME UP IN HERE TO GET TO THE FESTIVAL BEING HELD IS WHAT I'M THINKING. 
          COOK WORLD RECORDS. 
          MOST HOTELS BUILT IN A 10 YEAR PERIOD. 
           CITY COUNCIL. 
          HOW ABOUT A JOB REQUIREMENT? WHAT IS THE CONCEPT FESTIVAL? WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE ROOMS. YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE A SIDES FESTIVAL DESTINATION. 
          WHETHER WE HAD A DESTINATION THING OVER HERE. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE CATEGORY BASIC, BRINGING MONEY INTO THE CITY IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          THAT'S MORE OF A MONEY THING. 
          AND I'M THINKING, OR IT COULD BE A BOB THING. 
          EVEN IF WE ONLY HAVE OUR ONE HOTEL STILL FOR RIGHT NOW. 
          THE FACT THAT THEY CAN TAKE, I THINK THE FESTIVAL STAY SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          THAT ONE CAN GO IN THIS PILE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THOUGH. 
          WELL, IT CAN GO OR THIS CAN GO OVER THERE BECAUSE IT BRINGS MONEY UP HERE THEORETICALLY. 
          BUT YOU'RE ALSO, 
          [03:10:01]
YOU'RE CREATING THE VIBE OF THE CITY. 
          YES. 
          SO IT CAN GO EITHER WAY. 
          SO, SO I'VE GOT TWO, TWO THINGS. 
          SO THE FESTIVAL DESTINATION THAT ALSO FESTIVAL VENUE IN THE CENTRAL CENTER. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, SO WHERE DOES THIS GO? WHICH YOU GET, YOU GET TO FIGURE OUT GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ON THIS ONE  GOAL OBJECTIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, AND I GUESS AN OBJECTIVE TO YOUR POINT IS TO FACILITATE A PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP WITH THE, BECAUSE THAT'S CAP METRO LAND YES. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? YES. 
          SO THEY GET TO PICK THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          BUT WE CAN FACILITATE BECAUSE, AND I'VE TALKED TO CAP METRO ABOUT, AND TODD AND I, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER DAY. 
          'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE. 
          AND THERE'S ACTUALLY ONE IN SOUTH AUSTIN PLAZA . 
          THAT WAS A PRIVATE PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND IT'S RETAIL APARTMENTS. 
          IT'S, IT'S A WHOLE THING THAT'S RIGHT AT THE TRAIN STATION. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE A FUN AND GOOD TRANSITION INTO NORTH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO USE THAT SPACE AND GET OTHER INTERESTS. 
          IT'S JUST , CAPTAIN METRO WOULD BE INCENTIVIZED TO, YOU WANNA CREEP THAT IN, I GUESS? OH, BOTH. 
          AND SO WHAT WOULD YOU CALL, WELL, IT WOULD PROBABLY GO OVER HERE UNDERNEATH YOUR FINANCIALLY SECURE AND ALL THAT. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU BRING ON. 
          OR AN EMPLOYER OR SOMETHING. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, IT WOULD BE THIS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PUT OUT MONEY. 
          TO ME, THE FINANCIAL LONG TERM IS THE RESULT, NOT THE GOAL. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THE GOAL IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THE RESULT IS IS THE MONEY. 
          THE MONEY, YEAH. 
          SO THESE ARE GOALS. 
          AND THE FINANCIAL WINDFALL, NOT WINDFALL, BUT WELL, BUT I'M NOT SAYING LEANDER NECESSARILY WOULD NEED TO SPEND ANY MONEY ON. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT 'CAUSE IT'S NOT OR IT CREATES THE ENVIRONMENT THAT'S CONDUCIVE TO YES. 
          SO THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO GO FIND SOMEBODY TO DEVELOP THAT LAND BECAUSE IT'D BE BENEFICIAL FROM THEM. 
          BUT THEN WE GET THE SALES TAX REVENUE AND THE PROPERTY TAX WITH THE IDEA. 
          SO WE SEND THE PROGRAM FOR DEVELOP FOR THE METRO DEVELOPMENT OF THE METRO. 
          THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE END OF THE LINE, RIGHT? IT IS. 
          IT IS. 
          IT IS. 
          IT WILL ALWAYS BE THE END OF THE LINE. 
          SO WHERE DO YOU WANT THIS TO? DEPENDS. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU THINK AS LONG AS WE'RE ALIVE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THEY HAVE STUFF ON THE SOUTH END AND THE NORTH END TO PLACE DESTINATIONS. 
          RIGHT. 
          INCENTIVE PROGRAM TO THE LIBERTY HILL AIRPORT IS BUILT. 
          THAT MIGHT GO THAT WAY. 
          YOU GONNA BUILD AN AIRPORT THERE? NO. 
          . 
          BUT THAT'S WHY I SAID WE WON'T BE ALIVE. 
          DID WE WANNA BUILD A WE PUT AN AIRPORT OUT HERE. 
          STOP. 
          STOP. 
          THAT WAS JUST A PASSIVE COMMENTS THAT DOESN'T NEED FRONT DISCUSSION. 
          EXECUTIVE, UH, JET ONLY JET. 
          THE KPP. 
          GEORGETOWN. 
          THREE LETTERS. 
          K, P, P. 
          IS IT A U? S. 
          OKAY. 
          K, P, P. 
          YOU KNOW HOW ALL THE AIRPORTS THERE IS ONE IN ADD? NO. 
          THINK I'M GOOD. 
          ANYTHING TO ADD? IT'S ACTUALLY, I'M GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO WHICH ONES ARE GOALS AND WHICH ONES ARE OBJECTIVES? SUBJECT. 
          SO ALL DIFFERENT GOALS. 
          AND THEN THE REST ARE ALL IN QUESTION. 
          AND THEN THESE ARE ARE GOALS. 
          THOSE ARE OBJECTIVES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THESE ARE THE GOALS. 
          LIX GOALS HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          OBJECTIVES RIGHT HERE. 
          YOU WANNA WRITE? DO YOU HAVE A PAPER CARD? G AND O ON THERE. 
          HE'S GOT IT. 
          ARE YOU GOT PAPER? COURSE? ACTUALLY THAT'S, YOU WANT ME TO GO SEE THE DOOR? OH NO, I CAN SHE COLOR COAT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THESE ARE GOALS. 
          DID WE DO THOSE ONE? DOXY GREET EM AT THE DOOR. 
          DID WE GET THIS ONE DONE? I DID NOT MESS WITH THAT. 
          I DIDN'T MESS ANY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE DIDN'T, I DON'T THINK WE SPENT HARD TIME ON THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO THESE ARE GOALS. 
          OKAY? POSSIBILITIES. 
          THESE ARE POSSIBILITIES. 
          SO ALL THIS FITS. 
          SUPERVISOR, DAVID, ALL OF THESE GO WITH CULTURE, TITLE, FAMILY, THAT. 
          SO ALL THIS COMES HERE, BUILD FUTURE. 
          THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES ARE WEIRD. 
          NOW SEE, THAT'S THAT THIS GO WITH THE INTERNAL PROCESSES. 
          WHATEVER WE ENDED UP, THIS IS POSSIBILITY. 
          [03:15:01]
I DON'T THINK IT'S FUNDAMENTAL. 
          YOU'RE GONNA LOVE IT. 
          TRUST ME. 
          OKAY, SO THESE ARE GOALS AND THESE ARE OBJECTIVES. 
          AND THIS IS THE, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT GOES WITH THE BALANCE. 
          WHICH ONE? COLLABORATIVE, I THINK GOES WITH BALANCE CARDS. 
          IS EVERYTHING NEED? UH, SOME OF THEM. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          NO, THAT WAS, NO, BUT IS IT A GOAL OR AN OBJECTIVE? DID YOU PUT TOGETHER I NOT PUTTING TOGETHER. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, THAT, THAT WOULD BE THIS. 
          I ONLY HAD TWO TOGETHER BECAUSE LIKE, IT TRANSCENDS A LOT OF THIS STUFF. 
          THAT'S HOW I, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S COLLABORATIVE. 
          MOSTLY THAT'S GONNA BE YOUR STAFF AND YOUR DEVELOPER. 
          YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DO BRING BUSINESS AND GOALS WITH YOUR RESIDENT. 
          I MEAN, YOU CAN, IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WANNA SPIN. 
          IT CAN BE BROAD, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I ALMOST THINK THAT THIS WENT TO THE CULTURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD THE COLLABORATIVE CULTURE. 
          YEAH, THIS WAS THE, YOU'RE CONFUSING EVERYTHING BECKY. 
          WE BE LIKE FRIENDLY CITY. 
          I FEEL LIKE THIS IS AN ODD FAULT. 
          IT'S NOT THERE. 
          OH, BUT THIS IS LIKE, YEAH, RIGHT HERE. 
          FRIENDLY OVER THE TOP EVERYTH. 
          RIGHT? THANK YOU. 
          UP THE OBJECTIVE. 
          GOOD. 
          TODD, WHERE? DISTINCTIVE AREA. 
          A SMALL TOWN. 
          A HOTEL. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS SITUATION WAS VERY SIMILAR. 
          YOU? YEAH. 
          SO, SO ALL OF THIS CLEAN, RELIABLE WATER NETWORK THAT ALL WENT TO QUALITY SERVICES AND THIS. 
          OKAY, SO THESE ARE THE GOALS. 
          THESE ARE THE OBJECTIVES THAT WENT WITH THOSE AL GOALS. 
          THIS WAS THE OBJECTIVE. 
          AND THIS, WE DIDN'T, THIS MUSICAL ME. 
          NO. 
          . 
          NO. 
          THESE ARE QUESTION MARKS. 
          YEAH, WE DIDN'T, THESE ARE ALL THE I KNOW WHAT TO DO. 
          THE FUN. 
          YES. 
          [03:20:37]
ALL RIGHT. 
          WHAT NOW, . 
          SO WE ONLY HAVE LIKE TWO OR THREE MORE VISIONING QUESTIONS. 
          , , WE  AND THEY START WITH RANDALL . 
          [5. Discuss and provide direction to City staff regarding economic development needs and priorities. ]
ARE WE MOVING INTO ITEM NUMBER FIVE? WE ARE. 
          UM, WE'VE DONE THE VISION AND GOALS. 
          AND SO NOW KIND OF FRESH OFF THE HEELS OF AN AMAZING VISIONARY EXPERIENCE. 
          UM, WE TALKED ABOUT BALANCE. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT KIND OF WHAT THAT SELF SUSTAINABILITY COMPONENT OF THE DESIRE FOR THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE. 
          UM, SO HERE WE GO, RANDALL. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, RANDALL, I HAD TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF TALKING ABOUT THE CONTEXT OF TODAY WAS REALLY, UH, TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF A DIVE INTO KIND OF WHAT THE MARKET FOR LEANDER IS TODAY AND WHAT DOES THE MARKET FOR LEANDER LOOK LIKE, MOVING ON INTO THE FUTURE. 
          UM, AND THEN KIND OF A RECAP OF SOME OF THE PRIMARY PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING AND KIND OF THE TIMELINES, WHAT THOSE MAY LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCUSSION. 
          UH, 'CAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT Y'ALL HIGHLIGHTED WAS THAT SUSTAINABLE BALANCE OF LAND USES. 
          SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS REALLY KIND OF A, POTENTIALLY A PERCENTAGE OF VALUE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AS KIND OF A METRIC TO BEGIN LOOKING AT THAT, TO FIND WAYS TO CREATE BALANCE. 
          SO, UH, THANK YOU. 
          SO, UH, RANDALL'S GONNA WALK US THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 
          ALRIGHT, PERFECT. 
          THANKS FOR, FOR KICKING THAT, THAT OFF. 
          UM, JUST AS WE, WE GO THROUGH THIS, UH, UH, THE SLIDES HERE AND IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TALKING THROUGH WHAT'S OUR CURRENT MARKET, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT CAN WE REALISTICALLY ATTRACT, UH, RIGHT NOW AT THIS, THIS MOMENT. 
          UM, HAVE SOME GRAPHS TO START, BUT THEN WE'LL START TO GET INTO THE MORE EXCITING INFORMATION ON HERE'S A, A STATUS UPDATE ON THE, ON THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN BEEN WORKING ON. 
          SO TO, TO KICK IT OFF AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE SEEING, WHAT'S AHEAD AND A LITTLE BIT ON WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE GOING. 
          UH, THIS SLIDE KIND OF HITS INTO WHAT, UM, EARLIER THIS MORNING ON THE DISCUSSION ON, UM, AV AND WHAT WE'RE WE'RE SEEING, WE LOOKED AT THE TOTAL AV GROWTH. 
          THIS IS JUST WILLIAMSON COUNTY. 
          UM, AND THIS HIGHLIGHTS BY THE DIFFERENT, UH, CATEGORIES. 
          I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOUGH TO, TOUGH TO READ HERE. 
          THE THE LIGHT BLUE IS, IS RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO NO SURPRISE THAT, THAT, UH, AS WE DISCUSSED THAT, UM, COMPROMISES THE MAJORITY OF OUR, UH, AV BASE IN THE, THE BLUE THERE IS, UH, IS COMMERCIAL AND PURPLE MULTIFAMILY. 
          AND THIS IS JUST THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY, UM, SECTION. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, TOTAL VALUE IN PERCENTAGES, HERE'S WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          UM, 78% RESIDENTIAL, ABOUT 9%, UH, COMMERCIAL AND, AND RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND THIS IS BY, BY VALUE. 
          UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, UH, CURRENT BREAKDOWN ON THE, UH, LAND USE, UH, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THIS IS WHAT WE, UH, CURRENTLY SEE FROM A, UH, ZONING STANDPOINT. 
          AND, UH, ABOUT 53% THERE WITH THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY. 
          AND THAT INCLUDES ETJ. 
          AND THIS INCLUDES, UH, ETJE YEAH. 
          AS WELL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, AND THEN MOVING FROM, UH, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO THE, TO THE ZONING THAT'S IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. 
          42% RESIDENTIAL AND A THIRD, ROUGHLY A THIRD AT, UH, AT COMMERCIAL. 
          UH, THE, THE LIGHT IS RESIDENTIAL, UM, INTERIM, WHICH WE'LL GO THROUGH ON THE, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, HIGHLIGHTS. 
          UH, CAN I, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          CAN YOU GO BACK, UM, ONE MORE SLIDE ON THAT ONE. 
          IT'S JUST A LITTLE HARD FOR ME TO READ. 
          UM, WHICH ONE OF THOSE IS THE PARKS 
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AND PRESERVES? WHICH PERCENTAGE? I CAN'T TELL OF THE YELLOW. 
          'CAUSE THEY'RE TWO YELLOWS. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S THE 5.5 0.53. 
          5.3. 
          IT'S THE 5.53. 
          SO THE OTHER ONE IS THE INDUSTRIAL. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          LOOKING AT THIS BY, UH, ACREAGE, UM, LOOKED AT THE PERCENTAGES. 
          HERE'S WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, THOSE NUMBERS FROM A, A RAW, UH, ACREAGE, UH, STANDPOINT HERE IN THE, IN THE CITY. 
          THEN I THINK THE, THE LAST SLIDE HERE ON, UM, ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND, UM, IS, IS OUR IDEAL BREAKDOWN IN OUR, UM, I GUESS IT WAS A 2020 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WHAT THAT, UH, SET THE STAGE FOR IN TERMS OF WHAT WE IDEALLY WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO, TO SEE. 
          AND, UM, IN THAT, THAT MAPS, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL CURRENTLY THAN WE, WE ENVISIONED IN THAT, IN THE, THE PLAN. 
          UH, JUST TRANSITIONING A LITTLE BIT, UH, GOING BACK INTO THE COMMERCIAL, UH, GROWTH. 
          WE HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, WHILE THE PRIMARILY GROWTH HAS BEEN ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, WE HAVE HAD A, A STEADY, UH, UH, IMPROVEMENT IN TERMS OF, UH, COMMERCIAL VALUE THAT'S BEEN CREATED IN, IN LEANDER. 
          UH, THIS SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ON WHERE, WHERE WE STAND FROM A RANKING STANDPOINT WITH, UH, WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES IN, IN TEXAS. 
          IN TERMS OF SALES TAX COLLECTED, WE'RE AT ABOUT 1 28, UH, RIGHT NOW. 
          WE, WE SAW A PRETTY STEADY DECREASE. 
          UM, WE DID GO UP A LITTLE BIT IN THE, UH, 22, 23 TIMEFRAME. 
          THAT WAS DUE TO A, ONE OF OUR LARGER SALES TAX PROVIDER HAD, HAD, HAD MOVED OUT AT, AT THAT TIME. 
          THAT'S WHY WE DID SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A, OF A INCREASE THERE IN THAT, THAT RANKING. 
          WHERE ARE WE IN THIS? UM, THIS IS KIND OF CONFUSING. 
          MM-HMM? . 
          YEAH. 
          THIS IS THE, THE NUMBER TO THE, UH, TO THE TOP, ABOVE THE, THE BARS IS THE, UM, RANKING IN, IN TEXAS. 
          SO THE, THE FIRST SLIDE TO THE LEFT WAS 481ST IN TERMS OF SALES TAX COLLECTED. 
          ARE YOU SAYING THAT ALL THE CITIES IN TEXAS, ALL THE CITIES IN TEXAS? WE, SO BEING LOWER IS GOOD. 
          BEING LOWER IS GOOD. 
          THANK, SO WE'RE NUMBER 481. 
          WE'RE NUMBER ONE. 
          1 28. 
          WE'RE 1 28. 
          YEAH. 
          WHERE, WHERE DOES THAT SHOW? IN 1990 EUROPE, THE FOUR 81ST CITY THERE A SALES TAX COLLECTION IN 2024. 
          YOU, SO YOU, THOSE ARE THE YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          THE 2 0 2 4 IS THE YEAR. 
          THE ZERO SEVEN IS THE, OKAY. 
          AND THIS BASICALLY SHOWS THE TREND OF US GROWING FASTER THAN OUR PEERS AND ALL THAT. 
          AND SO YOU'RE SAYING WE KIND OF STEPPED BACKWARD THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND NOW WE'RE HOPEFULLY GONNA GO BACK DOWN. 
          YES. 
          WE WENT FROM ONE 20 TO 1 32. 
          YOU CAN SEE IN THAT THAT THAT'S MAJOR SALES TAX CONTRIBUTOR LEFT THE CITY. 
          UM, BUT WE DID DID SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A, A DECREASE GOING NOW FROM 1 32 TO 1 28. 
          I THINK THAT TREND WILL, WILL CONTINUE. 
          CAN I ASK A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION? YEP. 
          IS THAT COMBINED, OR IS THAT WHAT WE ACTUALLY GET? THIS IS SINCE WE CONTRIBUTED TO CAP METRO, IS THIS COMBINED? DOES THAT INCLUDE BOTH OR IS THIS WHAT WE GET? THIS IS, UH, TOTAL. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE, UM, LET ME REPHRASE IT. 
          THIS IS, OH, THIS IS WHAT THE PORTION THAT WE, WE RECEIVE. 
          SO THE THE 1 CENT, YEAH. 
          THE MONEY THAT GOES TO CAP METRO NEVER COMES INTO US. 
          AND SO OUR NUMBERS DON'T COUNT THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE OTHER QUESTION BEFORE WE GO TOO FAR. 
          WHY, WHY DO WE NOT HAVE TRAVIS COUNTY? IS THERE NOT THE ABILITY TO, THAT THAT WAS JUST THE, UH, THIS, THIS DOES FACTOR IN. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT ONE. 
          SO ALL THE OTHER ONES HAVE, OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, UH, THIS SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS, UH, BY CATEGORY WHERE THOSE SALES TAX, UM, RECEIPTS, UH, COME FROM BY, BY MAJOR, UH, CATEGORIES WITH, UH, UM, RETAIL TRADE, UH, LEADING THE, THE WAY. 
          UM, I THINK WHEN WE TALK THROUGH THE, THE PRESENTATION HERE, I'LL HIGHLIGHT THE OPPORTUNITIES ON, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND, AND MANUFACTURING IN A, A LOT OF ROOM FOR, UH, FOR GROWTH IN, IN PARTICULAR AND IN THAT CATEGORY. 
          UM, A LOT OF TIMES I THINK THERE'S A, WHEN WE, WE THINK OF 
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HOW WE'RE GOING TO GROW OUR SALES TAX BASE, A LOT OF THE FEELING IS THAT IT'S PRIMARILY RETAIL AND THOSE TYPE OF STORES, A LOT OF TIMES SOME OF YOUR LARGER, UH, SALES TAX PROVIDERS ARE YOUR, UM, MANUFACTURERS THAT ARE SELLING BUSINESS TO BUSINESS A REALLY, YOU KNOW, EXPENSIVE PART OR WIDGET. 
          SO AS, AS WE START TO GET SOME OF THOSE COMPANIES, I DO THINK THAT THERE'S, AGAIN, ROOM FOR, FOR GROWTH ON THAT, THAT CATEGORY. 
          IS THIS ALL LIKE BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES, OR DOES THIS INCLUDE INTERNET SALES? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND I'LL, UH, NOTE THAT, UH, RIGHT HERE YOU CAN SEE OF THE, UM, 5.9 MILLION IN RETAIL TRADE THAT WE COLLECT, UH, NON-STORE RETAILERS ARE, UM, MAKE UP A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THAT. 
          UH, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. 
          IT'S INTERNET SALES. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE BUSINESS TO BUSINESS. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE YOUR, UH, AMAZON, EBAY, AND THOSE, UH, STORES THAT, UH, SHIP PRODUCTS TO YOUR DOORSTEP. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE ON 2018, THAT NUMBER WAS $170,000 TO TODAY. 
          THAT'S APPROACHING, UH, $2 MILLION. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST THE BRICK AND MORTAR THAT YOU THINK OF, BUT IT'S, UH, THOSE ONLINE E-COMMERCE. 
          SO WE COULD TEACH ALL OUR PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE TO SELL THEIR STUFF ON AMAZON AND DO BETTER. 
          NO, YOU BUY IT, BUY IT, YOU SELL IT, THE TAXES GO TO WHERE IT SHIPPED. 
          YEAH, THE TAXES GO TO WHERE THE ITEM IS SHIPPED TO. 
          SO IF YOU CAN'T BUY A LEANER, YOU SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BUY ONLINE TO HAVE IT SHIPPED TO YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, DID WANNA HIGHLIGHT, UM, WE NOTED PLACER AI IS A GOOD, GOOD DATA SOURCE. 
          UH, EARLIER, UM, I PULLED UP SOME OF THE LEAKAGE REPORTS THAT WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN, I THINK, UH, NO SURPRISE, LOSE OUT, UM, QUITE A BIT OF LEAKAGE ON, UM, RESTAURANTS, BOTH, UH, QUICK SERVE AS WELL AS FULL SERVICE, UH, RESTAURANTS, AS WELL AS BUILDING MATERIALS AND, AND SUPPLIES. 
          UM, FORTUNATELY WE'VE GOT SOME PROJECTS IN THE WORKS THAT WILL HELP, UH, HELP US BRIDGE THAT, UH, UM, UNMET NEED. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'RE GOING, UM, INTEREST WISE, WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING, UH, QUITE A BIT OF DEMAND ON FROM FLEX INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPERS TO, UH, TO PUT PRODUCT, UH, IN PLACE. 
          WE ARE NOW SEEING A GOOD AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE CATERING TO, UH, TO FOOD AND BEVERAGE. 
          SO, UM, WE WILL SEE, UM, A GOOD AMOUNT. 
          THE LAST SLIDE I HAVE, WE'LL SHOW ALL THE, UH, THE RETAILERS AND FOOD AND BEVERAGE COMPANIES THAT, THAT HAVE ANNOUNCED, UM, HOTEL AND HOSPITALITY HAS BEEN ONE HERE OF LATE THAT WE HAVE SEEN A, UM, A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, UH, UPTICK IN, IN INTEREST. 
          WE'VE GOT, UM, A LOT OF IRONS IN THE FIRE AND VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL WE'LL LAND, UM, ONE IN, IN THAT REGARD AS WELL AS MEDICAL OFFICE. 
          STRONG, STRONG INTEREST. 
          AND THIS, THIS SLIDE JUST KIND OF FURTHER, FURTHER SHOWS THAT, UH, THOSE INTEREST LEVELS, UH, LEADS WHAT WE'RE SEEING, UH, REGIONALLY ACROSS THE, THE AUSTIN, UH, MSA, UH, STRONG DEMAND FOR, UM, WHITE INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING. 
          UM, TODD ALLUDED, UH, EARLIER TO THE MEETING WE HAD WITH WILLIAMSON COUNTY, WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP. 
          UH, AT THAT MEETING, UM, UH, THEIR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR NOTED THAT 90% OF THE, THE LEADS THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING ARE RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND, AND MANUFACTURERS. 
          AND THAT, THAT TRACKS WHAT WE'RE WE'RE SEEING AS, UH, AS WELL. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT A, I THINK OUR, OUR OPPORTUNITY HERE IS GOING TO BE THE COMPANY'S LOOKING TO, TO LEASE SPACE. 
          AND THAT'S THE MAJORITY. 
          UH, NOW THAT, THAT WE SEE, I THINK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HERRERA CORRECTLY NOTED, UM, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT, UH, GOING TO, TO LAND THAT COMPANY THAT WANTS 500 PLUS ACRES, THAT'S A LARGE INDUSTRIAL, UM, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USER. 
          SO THOSE COMPANIES THAT NEED, YOU KNOW, TON OF LAND, TON OF POWER, AND FRANKLY DON'T WANT TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO A, UH, A NEIGHBORHOOD, PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE THE, THE, THE RIGHT FIT. 
          BUT WE ARE SEEING A LOT LOOKING FOR, FOR LEASE SPACE. 
          AND WE'VE SEEN THAT MARKET CHANGE, UM, WHICH IS WHY A LOT OF THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPERS ARE LOOKING TO, TO DEVELOP SPACE, UH, 
          [03:35:01]
IN TERMS OF WHAT I THINK WE CAN, CAN LAND, UM, RIGHT NOW, THOSE COMPANIES IN THAT 5,000 TO 150,000 SQUARE FEET, THE LARGER ONES LOOKING AT, GOING INTO TO TITAN, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR, UM, UH, FOCUS. 
          AND, UM, WE HAVE SEEN NOW THAT FREE HILL HAS, UM, GONE VERTICAL WITH, UH, WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT ON, ON HERO A. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE STARTED TO ENTERTAIN PROSPECTS, UH, OUT THERE SHOW, SHOW THAT SITE. 
          SO, UH, AGAIN, CONFIDENT, WE'LL, WE'LL LAND SOMEBODY IN, IN THAT, UH, THAT RANGE. 
          UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS AND, UH, AND DEVELOPERS, BOTH THE FLEX INDUSTRIAL AND HOSPITALITY. 
          SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CLASS A FLEX AND LET'S SAY LIKE CLASS C FLEX? OR IS THERE A CLASS C FLEX? YEAH, WITH, UH, I THINK MATERIAL TYPE, UM, MORE THAN, MORE THAN ANYTHING, UM, WOULD, UH, WOULD NOTE THAT I, UM, DON'T HAVE A, A PHOTO TO, WELL, I DO. 
          I'LL, UH, LET ME, I'LL GET TO THE PHOTO AND HIGHLIGHT WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          UM, MEDIUM AND, AND LONG RANGE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES ARE, UM, LISTED HERE IN, IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          UM, I, IN, IN SOME OF THESE, I, I THINK WE'LL, WE'LL SEE, UM, CLASS A, UH, OFFICE. 
          THIS IS LISTED AS MEDIAN, BUT WE DO HAVE A SHORT TERM OPPORTUNITY WITH, WITH WHAT ST. 
          JOHN'S IS, IS PLANNING TO, TO PUT IN. 
          UM, IT'S A GREAT, UH, THESIS AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR, FOR THAT PROJECT ON DEVELOPING CLASS A OFFICE IN A SUBURBAN MARKET. 
          THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CLASS A GOING ON ANYWHERE IN THE, IN THE AUSTIN MSA AND IN THE THESIS OF BUILDING IT OUT WHERE, UM, EMPLOYEES LIVE AND THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO REALLY FOCUS IN ON BUILDING OFFICE NEAR EMPLOYEES AND THOSE COMPANIES THAT WORK FROM HOME, BUT MIGHT WANT A OFFICE SPACE TO, UH, GO INTO THE OFFICE FOR TWO TO THREE DAYS, UH, A WEEK IS, IS REALLY APPEALING. 
          I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING, UM, FOR US TO, TO TRACK FOR, FOR FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES THERE AS, AS WELL. 
          SO THESE ARE ALL, UM, PROJECTS I THINK WE CAN, CAN ATTRACT HERE IN THE, UM, NOT TOO DISTANT, UH, FUTURE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE AREN'T SEEING THE, THE DEMAND THAT WE SAW IN THE OTHER OTHER USES. 
          UH, BACK TO DISCUSSING A LITTLE BIT ON THE INDUS, THE FLEX INDUSTRIAL, UH, SPACE. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN ALL OF THAT IN THE, IN THE REGION, REALLY FOCUS IN ON, UH, 35 AND, UH, IN ONE 30. 
          AND, UM, THOSE SECTIONS OF THE, OF THE AUSTIN MSA, UH, IS EXCITING NOW FOR US TO, TO HAVE A PROJECT, UH, HERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN, IN VISITING WITH, UH, WITH DEVELOPERS LIKE NOTED, YOU KNOW, THE 8 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN, IN GEORGETOWN AND THE NEED TO DIFFERENTIATE, UH, PRODUCTS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THERE'S MORE FOLKS LOOKING AT GOING WEST THAN PREVIOUSLY, OR AS WANTING TO TO BE IN A LITTLE BIT, UH, UH, DIFFERENT PROFILE THAN EVERY COMPETITOR. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF GONE UP ON 35 AND, AND ONE 30, UH, IN TERMS OF WHY, WHY WE ENTER, HERE'S THE FEEDBACK THAT, UH, THAT, THAT WE GET WHO LIKE TO ASK THIS QUESTION FOR, FOR DEVELOPERS SO THAT WE KNOW, SO THAT WE CAN HONE IN ON OUR MESSAGING AND, AND WHAT WE'RE WE'RE PORTRAYING. 
          UH, GREAT SCHOOL SYSTEM IS SOMETHING THAT CONSTANTLY, UH, COMES UP AS, AS WELL AS, UH, ACCESS TO, TO TALENT, UM, ESPECIALLY ON THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PIECE. 
          UH, ALRIGHT, NOW GOING THROUGH STATUS UPDATES ON SOME OF OUR, UH, OR PROJECTS, UH, UH, THE TITAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, SITE. 
          THEY'VE, THEY'VE CLOSED ON THE, ON THE TRACK NOW, UM, WHICH WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT. 
          UM, CONCEPT PLAN WAS SUBMITTED INTO THE, THE CITY HERE LAST WEEK. 
          SO NOW WE HAVE PLANS THAT WE'RE, UH, WE'RE REVIEWING. 
          UH, THEY DID ENGAGE, UH, A KILA COMMERCIAL TO HANDLE THEIR LEASING. 
          THEY PUT TOGETHER A GREAT MARKETING, UM, BROCHURE. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S OUT THERE IN THE, IN THE MARKET. 
          AKILA ISS A A GREAT TEAM AND CONFIDENT THAT THEY'LL, UH, PUT SOME GREAT PROSPECTS ON THE, ON THE SITE. 
          HERE'S AGAIN, THE, UH, THE LOCATION OF, OF THAT TRACT, UH, BETWEEN HERO A AND, AND SAN GABRIEL OFF OF, UH, OFF OF CR TWO 70. 
          [03:40:01]
SO THIS IS A DEVELOPER I TALKED TO PRETTY ON A FREQUENT BASIS, AND IT, EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE GOING SMOOTHLY AT, AT THIS TIME. 
          UH, HERO WAY WEST TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, THIS PROJECT, I THINK THIS PHOTO IS, UH, PROBABLY EIGHT TO 10 WEEKS OLD IF YOU DRIVE BY THE SITE NOW. 
          UM, ALL THE WALLS ARE UP ON THE, ON THE THREE BUILDINGS, UM, AND THEY HAVE, UM, 230,000 SQUARE FEET UNDER, UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UM, A GOOD KIND OF I IDEA ON OUR MARKET. 
          AND, UH, THE, THE STRENGTH TO IT IS THEY WERE ORIGINALLY PLANNING TO DO ONE BUILDING. 
          WE SET UP DO ANOTHER. 
          THEY DECIDED TO, TO DO ALL THREE BUILDINGS. 
          THAT'S AT ONCE, WHICH IS A, A GREAT SIGN. 
          UM, AND ABOUT, UH, 24,000 SQUARE FEET IS, IS LEASED CURRENTLY. 
          UH, AGAIN, WE'VE HAD A, A FEW, UH, SITE VISITS HERE ON, ON THIS SITE, AND CONFIDENT NOW THAT THE WALLS HAVE HAVE GONE UP, WE, WE'LL SEE SOME, UH, SOME FOLKS TAKE UP THAT, THAT SPACE, THEY'RE HOPING TO BE COMPLETED HERE BY THE, BY THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          SO TARGETING DECEMBER TIMEFRAME. 
          AND, UH, HERE'S JUST A, A LOCATION, UH, AGAIN ON, UH, OF THE PROJECT ON, UH, ON HERO WAY. 
          UH, HERITAGE GROVE, UH, BUSINESS PARK. 
          THIS IS A, A GROUP CALLED, UM, EAST GROUP. 
          THEY'VE, UH, THEY'VE CLOSED ON THE, ON THE TRACK. 
          IT WILL, UM, EVENTUALLY CAN ACCOMMODATE A LITTLE OVER 500,000 SQUARE FEET OF, UH, FLEX UH, DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, PICP PLANS ARE, ARE NOW APPROVED FOR THE, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND COMMENTS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED ON THE, THEIR SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. 
          UH, THEY'VE ALSO PURCHASED THE SITE AS, AS WELL. 
          SO IT'S A GOOD SIGN THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, MAKING THE, UH, MOTIONS ON, ON MOVING, MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT. 
          ALL RIGHT, SHIFTING A LITTLE BIT TO, UH, TO MORE OF YOUR COMMERCIAL, UH, RETAIL DEVELOPMENTS. 
          UM, HOME DEPOT IS, UH, IS CONTINUING TO, TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH THE, WITH THE DEVELOPER, TALKING THROUGH THAT, THAT PROJECT. 
          AND WE JUST RE RETURNED, UH, FEEDBACK ON THEIR, UM, CONCEPT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLAT HERE, HERE LAST WEEK AS AS WELL. 
          SO THIS IS A ACTIVE PROJECT. 
          WE ARE, YOU KNOW, ACTIVELY COMMUNICATING AND CORRESPONDING WITH THE, THEIR DEVELOPMENT TEAM ENDEAVOR NORTHLINE, UH, AS COUNSELOR CALLS, WE HEARD A PRESENTATION FROM A, FROM ENDEAVOR HERE NOT TOO LONG AGO ON THE INTEREST HERE. 
          AND IN NORTHLINE WORKING THROUGH THOSE, UH, THOSE PUT AMENDMENTS, THEY, UH, THEY'VE NOW, UM, HAVE A MARKETING, UH, FLYER THAT THEY'VE CREATED. 
          THEY'RE FULLY, UM, MARKING THE, UH, THE SITE OUT TO, UH, TO PROSPECTIVE, UH, TENANTS. 
          SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE ENGAGED AND, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD HERE, HERE ON A, ON A GOOD PACE. 
          UH, AND THIS SLIDE JUST JUST FURTHER HIGHLIGHTS THAT, UH, THAT SITE AND WHAT, UH, ENDEAVORS IS PLANNING TO, TO DO WITH THEIR, THEIR DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S YOU CLOSE TO THE, CLOSE TO THE HOME DEPOT, UH, SITE THERE AS, AS WELL. 
          UH, ANOTHER RENDERING OF THE, THE, THE PRODUCT THAT THEY'VE PUT IN THERE, UH, THEIR MARKETING BROCHURES. 
          YOU CAN KINDA HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT, WHAT THE PROJECT LOOKS LIKE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, SOUTHBROOK, UH, STATION, UH, THIS PROJECT WE, UM, SAW WENT, WENT VERTICAL PROBABLY SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS AGO ON, UH, ON 180 3. 
          UM, AGAIN, SPEAKS TO THE DEMAND THAT WE HAVE IN LEANDER, THAT THEY'VE HAD AS MUCH PRE-LEASE AS THEY, THEY HAVE BEFORE COMPLETING THEIR, THEIR BUILDING. 
          YOU CAN SEE, UM, QUITE A FEW OF RESTAURANTS, UH, TENANTS ENGAGE TO, UH, TO GO INTO THIS, THIS SITE THAT HAVE EXECUTED LEASES ALREADY. 
          UM, ONE THING I'LL, I'LL NOTE ON, ON THIS ONE IS, UM, WE TALK ABOUT THE SAMSUNG AND THE, THE NEED TO RECRUIT SUPPLIERS, WHICH THEY ARE IN THE MARKET, AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE, WE TALK TO, BUT THERE'S ALSO A SAMSUNG EFFECT ON THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT, THAT COME IN THE, UM, GROUP HERE WITH THE, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF I KNOW HOW TO WORK THIS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, UM, SORRY. 
          [03:45:01]
UM, HERE ON, UH, JUST PAST FIREHOUSE SUBS. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE, THE RIGHT IS CALLED, UH, PARIS, UH, BAGUETTE. 
          THAT'S A SOUTH KOREAN, UH, BAKERY. 
          AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE LARGEST, UM, IN SOUTH KOREA THERE ON EVERY CORNER, JUST, UH, JUST ABOUT, SO IT'S THE SOUTH KOREAN COMPANY THAT, THAT LANDED, UM, IN LARGE PART DUE TO THE ANTICIPATION THAT WE WILL, WE'LL START TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES MOVE IN AS A RESULT OF, OF SAMSUNG IN, IN THAT PROJECT. 
          UH, SO, SO YEAH, JUST A LITTLE ANTIDOTE THERE. 
          BUT AGAIN, A LOT OF INTEREST IN, IN SOUTH BROOK. 
          THEY'RE ALSO TARGETING, UH, END OF THE YEAR. 
          SO DECEMBER IS WHEN YOU SHOULD START TO SEE, UM, SOME OF THOSE TENANTS, UH, MOVE INTO THE, THE SPACE, UH, BAR W AS EVERYONE KNOWS, UM, QUITE A BIT OF ACTIVITY, UH, THERE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, UH, LEASE UP WITH INTERIOR AS WELL AS, UH, UH, PAD SITES. 
          AND AS, UH, COUNCIL KNOWS FROM THE DISCUSSION WE HAD JUST, UH, JUST LAST WEEK, THEY'RE NOW SHIFTING THEIR, THEIR FOCUS TO, UH, RW EAST AND THE, UH, THE NEXT PHASE OF, UH, OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH YOU'LL SEE RESTAURANTS AND IN THERE AS AS WELL. 
          UM, SO A NUMBER OF THOSE, UM, LOCATIONS OR A NUMBER OF THE ENTITIES ARE ABOUT READY TO GO. 
          I THINK CHILI'S IS, LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ABOUT A FEW WEEKS FROM, FROM OPENING IN THAT DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, GATEWAY 29, JUST ACROSS THE STREET, UH, PERMITS HAVE NOW BEEN ISSUED, SO YOU'VE SEEN QUITE A BIT OF ACTIVITY IF YOU'VE, UM, DROVE THAT WAY. 
          UH, CLEARING HAS, HAS STARTED ON, ON SITE. 
          HERE'S A BETTER, UH, IDEA OF WHAT, UH, WHERE THAT DEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, FALLS. 
          UM, AGAIN, I'VE DONE A, DONE A TON OF SITE WORK THAT'S GOING ON. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE STARTING THEIR STRIP DEVELOPMENT PORTION, UH, FIRST, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE SOME, SOME RESTAURANT PADS, UM, HERE, JUST, UH, JUST TO THE SIDE OF THAT. 
          SO WE WILL SEE SOME RESTAURANTS HERE AS, AS, AS WELL, UH, VERY ACTIVE, UM, SIDE OF TOWN WITH REAGAN IN, IN, UH, IN 29. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, MOVING FORWARD, UH, 0.1 83. 
          UM, WE ACTUALLY JUST HAD A, UH, GROUNDBREAKING THAT WE, UM, HAD HERE TWO TO THREE WEEKS AGO ON, UH, ON THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, YOU DROVE BY THAT SITE RECENTLY. 
          YOU CAN SEE THEY'VE, THEY'VE GONE VERTICAL ON THEIR, UM, UH, FIRST TWO BUILDINGS. 
          THEY'VE PORT SLABS ON, ON SOME ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS AS, UH, AS WELL. 
          THEY DO HAVE A RETAIL COMPONENT AS, AS WELL, ASIDE FROM THE MEDICAL OFFICE AND THE ANIMAL HOSPITAL THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE, UH, RETAIL COMPONENT IS, IS HIGHLIGHTED IN THAT, THAT BLUE, UM, UH, SECTION HERE ON THE, UH, ON THE SCREEN. 
          AND WE WILL SEE THEM AND START TO, UH, PUT THAT PROJECT IN, IN PLACE HERE ON THE, ON THE NEXT PHASE. 
          UH, BUT VERY ACTIVE, UH, CONSTRUCTION SITE IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BY THAT SITE AS AS WELL. 
          UH, HERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A OVERVIEW ON WHAT THEIR, UM, UH, FUTURE PLANS LOOK, LOOK LIKE AT, UH, AT FULL BUILD OUT. 
          ALRIGHT, UM, CRYSTAL, UH, CRYSTAL VILLAGE, UM, REALLY FOCUSING IN ON RESTAURANT, UH, PAD SITES AND, UH, SELLING OFF, OFF LAND FOR THOSE, THOSE PAD SITES. 
          UH, QT IS, IS OPEN, CULVER'S NOW IS UNDER, UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 
          UM, YOU DO HAVE, UH, SOUTH SIDE WITH, UH, WITH PERMITS, UH, APPROVED AND ABOUT TO HAVE A, UH, UM, THERE, UM, UH, SITE DEVELOPMENT AND, AND ACTIVITY GOING ON FOR CONSTRUCTION THERE. 
          UH, WE DID HAVE TEXAS ROADHOUSE, UH, ANNOUNCED AS, AS WELL IN THAT, UH, IN THAT DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO GREAT SPOT FOR, UH, FOR RESTAURANTS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO, TO SEE RESTAURANTS, UH, THERE ON THOSE, UH, LAND ON THOSE PAD SITES. 
          REAGAN CROSSING, UM, BACK, UH, SOUTH OF, UH, SOUTH PORTION OF, UH, OF REAGAN. 
          UM, AGAIN, QUITE A BIT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON. 
          BREAST TAP JUST, JUST OPENED, OPENED UP AND WRAPPING UP CONSTRUCTION THERE FOR THE, THE MAJORITY OF, OF THOSE SITES, UH, THEY WILL HAVE, HAVE SOME RESTAURANTS THERE. 
          I THINK SHIPWAYS 
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IS SCHEDULED TO, TO GO IN SOCIETY, KITCHEN AND BAR, WHICH IS A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT. 
          UM, WE'LL BE THERE AND A FEW OTHER RESTAURANTS ARE LOOKING AT GOING IN AS, AS WELL. 
          UH, SO THEY'RE MAKING QUITE A BIT OF PROGRESS NOW ON THEIR DEVELOPMENTS. 
          UH, HERE'S JUST A, AN OVERVIEW OF EVERYTHING I TOUCHED UPON, ESPECIALLY ON THE, THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE, UH, SIDE. 
          QUITE A BIT OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY THAT ARE REALLY LOOKING AT HOW TO CATER TO, UH, UM, TO RESTAURANTS, BOTH ON THE QUICK SERVE, UH, SIDE AS WELL AS, UH, FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT. 
          SO FEEL, FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE INTERESTS THAT WE'RE RECEIVING. 
          READY TO GET SOME MORE OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS, UH, ACROSS THE FINISH LINE, UH, ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE, AND CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO, TO SEE MORE AND MORE, UH, START TO, TO MOVE IN. 
          UH, AND AGAIN, WE DO HAVE SOME MORE ANNOUNCED WITH, UH, WITH NORTHLINE AND ENDEAVOR. 
          THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO CATER IN, UH, TO BRING IN MORE, MORE RESTAURANTS. 
          UH, HERE'S JUST A, A LIST, UM, AN OVERVIEW OF OF WHO'S, UH, WHO'S ANNOUNCED AND WHO'S, WHO'S COMING IN. 
          IT'S GOT SOME, SOME GREAT BRANDS. 
          UH, SOME OF THESE ARE FARTHER ALONG THAN, THAN OTHERS, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO, TO SEE A PRETTY, UM, STEADY TRICKLE OF, OF ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          SORRY, RANDALL. 
          YEAH. 
          LANES AND TIM HORTONS. 
          WHERE ARE THOSE GOING? YEAH, TIM, TIM HORTONS IS, UM, LET'S SEE IF I'VE GOT A, A SLIDE. 
          UM, THEY'LL GO JUST, UM, JUST NORTH ON, ON REAGAN AND, UM, JUST NORTH OF THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE, THE STREET. 
          OKAY. 
          DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT'S SUPPOSED TO OPEN? IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE. 
          THEY, I DON'T THINK THEY'VE GOT THEIR SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT ON THEIR, THEIR PROJECT, UH, JUST YET. 
          I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY IN THIS AREA, RIGHT? YEP. 
          UH, THEY JUST ANNOUNCED THAT THEY'RE COMING INTO THE, THE AREA, SO THIS WILL BE ONE OF THEIR, THEIR FIRST FIRST ONES. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          YEP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEVER BEEN. 
          AND THEN LANE'S, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE RAISING CANES, RIGHT? YEP. 
          WHERE'S THAT? LANE'S IS? LANE'S IS VERY, UH, VERY INITIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          COMING IN. 
          THEY'VE ANNOUNCED THAT THEY'RE DOING A LEANDER LOCATION, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT, WHERE IT'S, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S, UH, THAT'S IT FOR, FOR MY PRESENTATION. 
          HAPPY TO, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT, UH, THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE COUNSEL. 
          SO, SO RANDALL, I WAS GONNA SAY, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RADIUS OF IMPACT FROM A SAMSUNG, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM THESE MAJOR CORPORATE REGION, REGIONAL, UH, I GUESS PARTNERS OR, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF SAMSUNG, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD, UM, DIFFERENT SUPPLIERS. 
          UM, LOOK, LOOK IN, UH, LEANER. 
          WHAT WE'LL SEE IS THE, THE HEAVIER THE, UM, INDUSTRY, THERE'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF, UH, CHEMICAL SUPPLY COMPANIES. 
          THE HEAVIER ONES ARE GOING TO LOCATE RIGHT NEXT TO, TO SAMSUNG IN THE TAYLOR HU ROCKDALE AREA. 
          SO THAT'S, UM, WHERE OUR OPPORTUNITY IS, IS GOING TO BE MORE ON THE ENGINEERING, UH, SIDE AND THE HIGH SKILLED, UM, OPPORTUNITIES THERE. 
          SO THOSE COMPANIES THAT FOCUS, UM, THERE'S ONE COMPANY HERE IN THAT LOCATED IN, IN CEDAR PARK AND SCOTTSDALE CROSSING THAT WAS MORE OF A, UH, CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS FOR ENGINEERING RELATED TO, UH, TO SAMSUNG. 
          AND, UH, THAT'S THE TYPE OF BUSINESS WE'RE GOING TO GET, BUT THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL RIGHT NEXT TO, TO TAYLOR IN THAT, THAT AREA. 
          UM, WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO, TO REALLY, UH, SHOWCASE IS WHEN YOU'RE IN, IN SEOUL AND SOUTH, SOUTH KOREA, IT'S, UM, 30 MINUTES AWAY MIGHT BE, UH, TWO HOURS, UH, TRAFFIC HERE. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE CASE OR WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING THAT TIME, IT'S 30 MINUTES. 
          IT'S NOT, NOT THAT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE BATTLING IS, IS, UH, DISTANCE, UM, ON SOME OF THE, THE SUPPLIERS. 
          BUT AGAIN, THE HEAVIER THEY ARE INDUSTRIAL, THE THE MORE LIKELY THEY'LL, THEY'LL LOCATE RIGHT NEXT TO, TO THE SITE. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE, WE, WE ARE SEEING THAT THAT IMPACT FROM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SMALLER PROJECTS AND THAT, UM, NOT NECESSARILY THE SUPPLIERS, BUT THOSE, UM, RETAIL COMPANIES THAT ARE CATERING, UH, UM, THAT'S THE SAMSUNG EFFECT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING. 
          DO YOU THINK, UM, WE BECOME BETTER POSITIONED WHEN THE COUNTY STARTS WIDENING 2243 IN HIRO? YEAH, WE, UH, WE HAD ONE, UM, HERE, GOSH, TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO THAT LOOKED AND 
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WE HEAVILY FOCUSED ON YOUR AWAY AND THAT EAST WEST CONNECTION IN, SO I ABSOLUTELY, I THINK THAT'S A, A SELLING POINT OF OURS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS, BUT WHEN YOU WENT BACK TO THE FREE HILL, IT SAID THAT THEY HAD PRE-LEASE LIKE 24,000. 
          ARE YOU ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHO THAT'S PRE-LEASE TO OR NO? UH, YEAH, I, NOT THE SPECIFIC COMPANY, BUT I CAN TALK THROUGH YOU. 
          SO LET ME GET BACK TO THAT SLIDE REAL QUICK. 
          UM, I THOUGHT I HAD A, UM, A SITE PLAN. 
          THE, THE FIRST TWO BUILDINGS ARE ABOUT, UM, 50,000 SQUARE FOOT EACH. 
          AND THOSE ARE REALLY GOING TO CATER INTO, UM, YOUR, UH, SHOWCASE. 
          AND I, I THINK THERE WILL PROBABLY BE A, A SPORTS, UH, COMPONENT, UH, IN THOSE, UH, THOSE BUILDINGS. 
          AND THEN THE, THE LAST BUILDING IS, UM, YOUR A HUNDRED THOUSAND PLUS, UH, SQUARE FOOT DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TARGETING FOR, UM, FOR MAJOR, UH, EMPLOYERS. 
          UM, SO I THINK, UH, THAT'S, UH, THAT FIRST FIRST BUILDING, THE 24,500 IS ACTUALLY, UM, A BADMINTON GROUP. 
          UM, SO, AND, AND THEN THE, THE BACK PORTION IS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO, TO TARGET, UH, THOSE EMPLOYERS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          IS THAT EVERYTHING FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE? ALRIGHT, YOU GOOD? YOU WANNA LET 'EM GO? NO, I'M GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK Y'ALL. 
          THAT WAS FANTASTIC. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ITEM SIX, DISCUSS 
          [6. Discuss and provide direction to City staff regarding: (a) strategies to identify, prioritize, and fund a multi-year capital improvements program; (b) growth management in Certificate of Convenience and Necessity (CCN) and Extraterritorial Jurisdiction (ETJ); and (c) regional collaboration on issues of regional significance. ]
AND PROVIDE DIRECTION TO CITY STAFF REGARDING A STRATEGIES TO IDENTIFY, PRIORITIZE AND FUND A MULTI-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. 
          B, GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND CERTIFICATE OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, CCN AND EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, E, T, J AND C, REGIONAL COLLABORATION ON ISSUES OF REGIONAL SIGNIFICANCE. 
          CITY MANAGER, ARE YOU LEADING THIS? I'LL JUST SAY ONE QUICK THING AND I'LL BE QUIET 'CAUSE Y'ALL HAVE HEARD TOO MUCH FROM ME TODAY. 
          NO, WE HAVEN'T, BUT, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, SO VISION, WE SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING ECONOMICALLY, ECONOMICALLY, WE'RE SEEING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS ARE EVOLVING LIKE RIGHT IN FRONT OF US TODAY. 
          UM, WE HAVE A CRUSH OF CA OF CAPITAL PROJECT NEEDS, YOU KNOW, STACKED UP. 
          WE HAVE A SERIES OF MASTER PLANS THAT HAVE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THEM AND BUDGETS, OTHER THINGS WE'VE IDENTIFIED. 
          UH, SO IT BEGINS TO CALL THE QUESTION HOW CAN WE ACCESS CASH AND WHAT ARE OUR STRATEGIES AS WE TRY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FUNDING, YOU KNOW, AND SO HOW MUCH CAN WE BRING TO BEAR UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS? BUT THE OTHER PIECE OF IT REALLY WILL BE WHAT DO WE DO TO BEGIN TO EVALUATE THOSE PROJECT NEEDS THAT ARE OUT THERE? AND SO, UH, SO WE'LL KIND OF CIRCLE BACK TO THAT QUESTION AFTER MR. POWERS GETS A CHANCE TO KINDA WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT THE AMAZING WORK HE'S PUT TOGETHER HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE STILL ON NUMBER FIVE. 
          I'M SORRY, WE'RE STILL ON NUMBER FIVE THEN. 
          YES. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          YEAH, I'M SORRY, MAYOR, WE'RE ACTUALLY ON NUMBER SIX. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          GOOD. 
          THANK YOU TODD. 
          SO WE'LL START OFF WITH THE FIRST FINANCE QUESTION EVERYONE ASKS IS, HOW DO YOU EAT AN ELEPHANT? UM, YOU HAVE THREE CHOICES. 
          YOU FREEZE IT AND WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE REALLY HUNGRY. 
          YOU DON'T, BECAUSE YOU DON'T BELIEVE YOU CAN OR SEE ONE BITE AT A TIME. 
          I'M, I'M NOT GONNA ASK FOR ANY ANSWERS 'CAUSE THAT COULD RUIN MY PRESENTATION. 
          SO, UM, BUT THE ELEPHANT IN FRONT OF US IS ESTIMATED TO COST $815 MILLION PLUS OR MINUS, WHICH IS THE ESTIMATED COST IN TODAY'S DOLLARS, ROUGHLY ASSOCIATED WITH PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN VARIOUS CITY MASTER PLANS AND, AND OR STUDIES. 
          AND THESE INCLUDE THE, UM, TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, UH, TWO WILLIAMSON COUNTY BOND PROJECTS THAT, UH, WOULD REQUIRE, UH, A LOCAL CONTRIBUTION, UH, THE REAGAN CORRIDOR PROJECTS, THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, UH, THE FUTURE RECREATION CENTER, THE BONDS REMAINING THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ISSUED, UH, POTENTIALLY TWO FIRE STATIONS, NUMBER SIX AND NUMBER SEVEN, 
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AND ACQUIRING SITES FOR FUTURE NUMBER EIGHT AND NUMBER NINE, OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN, THE US 180 3 CORRIDOR STUDY. 
          AND THEN THE, UH, PREVIOUSLY CONDUCTED CITY FACILITIES, UM, PLAN THAT WE TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THIS MORNING. 
          AND OPTION TWO A WAS THE ONE, ONE CAMPUS, UM, OR THE, I FORGET WHICH OPTION THAT WAS, BUT IT WAS THE ONE THAT SEEMED TO HAVE THE COUNCIL, UM, UM, PRIORITY. 
          AND WHEN YOU ADD UP ALL THE CITY FACILITIES, IT'S 275 MILLION, SO THAT'S 815 MILLION IN ALL OF THOSE STUDIES IF YOU DID A, IF YOU DID EVERY ONE OF THEM. 
          AND, UM, BUT YOU CAN'T DO EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE, NOR WOULD YOU WANT TO. 
          AND SO WHAT, UM, UH, TODD ASKED ME AND OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS TO LOOK AT IS LET'S LOOK OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS AND MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT THE CITY'S FUTURE TAX BASE GROWTH. 
          UM, MAKING SOME ASSUMPTIONS OBVIOUSLY, AND LOOKING AT THESE PROJECTS. 
          SO THE FIRST THING TO DO IS SAY, OKAY, WELL IT'S $815 MILLION TODAY. 
          IF WE DID EVERYTHING TODAY, BUT OVER 20 YEARS, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT COST BE? AND SO YOU INFLATE THAT OUT OVER 10 YEAR, 20 YEARS, AND YOU GET ROUGHLY $1.2 BILLION. 
          SO HOW DO YOU WANT TO EAT THAT ELEPHANT IF THE ANSWER'S ONE BITE AT A TIME? HERE'S ONE WAY TO THINK ABOUT DOING THAT. 
          AND IT STARTS WITH DETERMINING THE CITY'S DEBT CAPACITY. 
          AND THAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION THAT, THAT, THAT TODD ASKS ME TO GET WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS IS WHAT IS THE CITY OF LEANER DEBT CAPACITY OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS? UH, DE DEBT CAPACITY IS A COMMON TERM USED IN PUBLIC FINANCE, AND IT SIMPLY MEANS HOW MUCH DEBT CAN YOU ISSUE? WELL, GENERALLY IT'S THE DECI THE, THE ANSWER IS DRIVEN BY THREE VARIABLES, AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS BEHIND EACH 'CAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE. 
          ONE IS WHAT IS YOUR TAX BASE AND THE FUTURE GROWTH ASSUMPTIONS, UM, WHAT IS AND WILL BE YOUR FUTURE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE, AND THEN HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO BORROW MONEY? SO, UM, AND WE ASKED OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO, UH, BUILD A MODEL, UH, THAT WE'LL SHOW YOU HERE IN X SLIDE OR TWO WITH SOME ASSUMPTIONS RELATED TO THESE THREE VARIABLES. 
          AND I, I'LL JUST MAKE A SIDE NOTE THAT, UH, FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE, AND ESPECIALLY THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, REALLY THE, THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE IS THE ONE YOU HAVE THE, THE MOST CONTROL OVER. 
          UM, SO, UH, THE SLIDE'S A LITTLE SMALL, BUT, SO WE HAVE THREE VARIABLES AND WE, UH, GAVE OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS A HIGH, MEDIUM AND LOW OPTION FOR EACH SCENARIO. 
          AND I DON'T, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO GO INTO THE SPECIFICS HERE. 
          UM, BUT YOU DO THAT AND YOU'LL GET 27 ANSWERS. 
          SO THAT'S 27. 
          UM, I FORGET MY STATISTICS PERMUTATIONS OR COMBINATIONS, BUT IF YOU LOOKED AT THE HIGHEST SCENARIO, WHICH WAS THE HIGHEST MOST FAVORABLE IN EACH OF THOSE THREE VARIABLES OVER 20 YEARS, THE CITY OF LEANDER COULD ISSUE $1.5 BILLION IN DEBT. 
          IF YOU TOOK THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD ASSUMPTIONS, THE BBB, UH, YOU COULD ON, YOU COULD ISSUE ALMOST $800 MILLION OVER THE NEXT, UM, 20 YEARS. 
          AND THIS IS ALL TAX SUPPORTED DEBT. 
          THIS IS NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT UTILITY FUND, WHICH PAYS FOR ITS OWN DEBT. 
          THE LOWEST ASSUMPTION OF THE 27, UM, RESULTS, UH, STILL COMES WITH $578 MILLION OVER 20 YEARS. 
          AND HERE'S ALL 27, UH, RESULTS FROM THE, YOU TAKE THREE, THREE VARIABLES. 
          YOU GIVE THEM EACH THREE OPTIONS, YOU'LL GET 27 COMBINATIONS. 
          I ASKED TODD IF I COULD GO OVER EACH ONE, HE SAID NO, THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TIME. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA JUST TALK ABOUT THE HIGH, MEDIUM AND THE LOW. 
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UH, BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, HERE'S A GRAPHIC THAT SAYS IF THE, IF WE DO NOTHING, DON'T, IF THE CITY DOES NOT ISSUE ANY NEW DEBT, THIS IS WHAT OUR TAX RATE IS TODAY. 
          AND THEN IT WOULD JUST CONTINUE TO THEORETICALLY DROP TO ALMOST NOTHING OVER TIME. 
          AND THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          AS YOUR TAX BASE GROWS, EVEN IF IT GROWS SLOWLY AND YOU'RE PAYING OFF EXISTING DEBT, IT MAKES SENSE THAT IT WOULD DROP TO TO ZERO. 
          UM, AND, AND THESE NEXT SLIDES DEAL WITH, UH, THE TAX RATE AND, UH, HOW THEY PLAY INTO THE ASSUMPTIONS. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED THAT REALLY YOU HAVE CON THE MOST CONTROL OVER THE DEBT RATE, NOT THE, YOU CAN'T CONTROL INTEREST RATES, WHAT THE MARKET WILL CHARGE TO ISSUE DEBT, AND YOU CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH ON AFFECTING YOUR FUTURE TAX BASE GROWTH. 
          BUT IN, IN OPTION, THE HIGH SCENARIO OPTION, AAA, UM, THE, THE RED LINE OR BURNT ORANGE LINE, SORRY, ROBIN, UM, SHOWS THAT UNDER THIS SCENARIO, YOUR DEBT RATE WOULD ACTUALLY INCREASE FOR A FEW YEARS QUITE A BIT AND THEN IT WOULD FLAT FLATTEN OUT. 
          UM, BUT THE, THE HIGH SCENARIO SAYS MAINTAIN THE CURRENT TAX RATE, THE TOTAL TAX RATE OF 41.73 CENTS, BUT AS THE M AND O RATE, THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION RATE DROPS. 
          AND THE REASON IT WOULD DROP IS BECAUSE STATE LAW ONLY ALLOWS YOU TO, TO COLLECT TAXES THREE AND A HALF A CERTAIN AMOUNT ABOVE WHAT YOU DID THE YEAR BEFORE. 
          AND WITH A GROWING TAX BASE, THAT MEANS THE RATE'S GONNA HAVE TO GO DOWN EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE BRINGING IN MORE MONEY. 
          SO WHAT THIS SAYS IS IF YOUR OPERATIONS RATE IS DROPPING, YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT DROP AND ISSUE DEBT SO THAT YOUR, YOUR TOTAL TAX RATE REMAINS THE SAME. 
          SO IF YOU, IF YOUR OPERATIONS RATE DROPPED 2 CENTS, YOU WOULD INCREASE YOUR DEBT RATE 2 CENTS TO, IF YOUR OPERATIONS RATE DROPPED 3 CENTS, YOU WOULD ISSUE DEBT TO, TO ADD 3 CENTS. 
          SO YOU WOULD ALWAYS MAINTAIN A CURRENT TAX RATE OF 41.70 CENTS. 
          SO THAT'S THE HIGHEST SCENARIO. 
          SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO ELECTION FOR THAT, UH, MAINTAIN THAT CURRENT RATE. 
          SO, UH, ANY, NO, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ON, UM, UH, ISSUING DEBT AND THEN WHENEVER THE CITY ISSUES DEBT, UM, YOU, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SET A TAX RATE TO PAY FOR THAT DEBT. 
          OKAY? SO, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, THE DEBT TAX RATE DOESN'T, UM, REQUIRE A VOTER APPROVAL. 
          ALL RIGHT, IT'S JUST THE OPERATIONS RATE. 
          I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS THE TOTAL RATE THIS WHOLE TIME. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UH, SCENARIO B SAYS MAINTAIN THE CURRENT DEBT RATE AT 15 CENTS. 
          THAT THAT ONE'S PRETTY, UM, SELF-EXPLANATORY. 
          AND THEN OPTION C, UM, IT'S KIND OF A WEIRD OPTION, BUT, UM, SEVERAL OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL FOR A WHILE HAVE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT KIND WHAT IS A GOOD OR REASONABLE BALANCE BETWEEN YOUR OPERATING RATE AND YOUR DEBT RATE. 
          AND THIS IS NOT SET IN STONE. 
          IT OFTEN DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR, YOUR GROWTH CYCLE IS IN YOUR, WHETHER YOU'RE A MATURE GROWTH CITY OR WHETHER YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, UH, FAST PACED. 
          BUT, UH, MY ANSWER HAS BEEN IN THE PAST THAT WITHOUT OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, A HEALTHY BALANCE IS ONE THIRD DEBT, TWO THIRDS, UM, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. 
          SO IF YOU SAID THAT WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT RATIO, UM, THAT'S WHAT THIS MODEL SHOWS, THAT AS YOU'RE ABLE TO INCREASE YOUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS RATE OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, 
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YOU WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO INCREASE YOUR DEBT RATE PROPORTIONALLY. 
          IT'S THE, THE LOWEST ASSUMPTION, UM, OF THE, OF THE THREE. 
          BUT, SO THE CONCLUSIONS OF THE MODEL IS THAT THE HIGHEST OF THE 27 SCENARIOS, AND THESE ARE ALL KIND OF PROJECT REALLY ROUGH PROJECTIONS. 
          IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE, UM, RELIED UPON FOR ANYTHING TOMORROW, BUT IF THE AAA MODEL PANNED OUT, ALL THOSE THINGS LINED UP, THE CITY COULD ISSUE 1,000,005 A, 1,000,000,005 OVER 20 YEARS, AND THAT WOULD BE, UM, SUFFICIENT TO COMPLETE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE MASTER PLANS IF WE WENT DOWN THE, THE PATH OF, UH, THE TRIPLE B, UH, THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO COMPLETE 60% OF ALL THOSE PROJECTS. 
          AND IF WE WENT DOWN THE, THE, THE MOST CONSERVATIVE AND, AND THE TRIPLE C, UH, THAT'S SUFFICIENT TO COMPLETE 45% OF THE PROJECTS. 
          UH, HERE'S ANOTHER GRAPH TO KIND OF SHOW, TRIES TO PORTRAY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OVER TIME. 
          AND, AND REALLY THIS IS MORE OF A CONCEPT FOR THE DISCUSSION AT THE END OF THIS, THIS PRESENTATION, BUT, SO IT'S NOT THE PLAN THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, BUT, UM, THE YELLOW LINE IS, IF YOU JUST SAID, WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THESE PROJECTS AND, UM, EQUAL AMOUNTS OVER 20 YEARS, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A STRAIGHT LINE. 
          AND THOSE, AND THOSE ARE CUMULATIVE. 
          SO YOU'D, IN OPTION AAA, YOU WOULD HAVE PLENTY OF DEBT PRO CAPACITY TO COVER ALL THOSE PROJECTS. 
          OPTION TRIPLE B, THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD SCENARIO, UH, SAYS IT WOULD BE, UM, BECAUSE THE, THE BLUISH GRAY AREA IS BELOW THE YELLOW LINE, IT SAYS, WELL, IT'D BE A LITTLE MORE TOUCH AND GO IN TERMS OF TIMING YOUR, YOUR DEBT ISSUANCE IN ORDER TO HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO COVER ALL THE PROJECTS. 
          BUT STILL IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY CLOSE. 
          SHOULDN'T SAY ALL. 
          UM, THAT LINE IS, REPRESENTS 60% OF THE, OF THE PROJECTS. 
          AND THEN THE RED LINE, THAT WHITE SPACE BETWEEN THE RED AND THE YELLOW TELLS YOU THAT'S THE PRO THE, THE COST OF PROJECTS THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE MONEY TO DO. 
          AND THEN TRIPLE C OBVIOUSLY THE, THE WHITE SPACE BETWEEN THE RED LINE AND THE YELLOW LINE IS BIGGER BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY ABLE TO DO 45% OF THE PROJECTS. 
          AND AS YOU CAN TELL IN THIS GRAPH, UM, YOU, YOU DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A, A GO SLOW APPROACH BECAUSE, UM, THE, THE AMOUNT YOU COULD ISSUE IN THE EARLY YEARS IS, WOULD NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO BE AGGRESSIVE, UH, GOING OUT. 
          SO THAT'S THAT WHITE SPACE BETWEEN THE YELLOW AND THE, THE BLUISH GRAY. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT IS BEING ASKED OF THE COUNCIL TODAY, UM, IS DOES THE COUNCIL WANT TO START A PROCESS TO TACKLE THE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED AND PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED MASTER PLANS AND INFRASTRUCTURE STUDIES? AND IF THE ANSWER IS YES, DO YOU WANNA BE CAUTIOUS, MODERATE, OR, OR AGGRESSIVE? AND THEN IF WE'RE STILL ON THE YES TRAIN, THEN DO YOU WANT TO SET UP A A PRIORITIZATION PROCESS? SO ONE EXAMPLE OF A PROCESS, AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, COULD BE THE, THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU, YOU WORK THROUGH, OR WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH YOU, YOU MAY SAY, OKAY, WE WANNA PLAN ON HOLDING BOND ELECTIONS EVERY SEVEN YEARS, LOOKING 10 YEARS OUT. 
          UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU ISSUE ALL THE DEBT AT ONCE, BUT YOU, YOU CAN HAVE A BOND ELECTION LIKE WE'VE DONE IN IN 2016, AND THEN ISSUE THE DEBT AS 
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YOU GET READY TO DO THOSE PROJECTS. 
          BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN TAKE A AS LONG A WINDOW AS YOU WANT ON THE ELECTION. 
          SO EVERY SEVEN YEARS YOU'D PLAN ON A BOND ELECTION. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU WOULD, UH, HAVE THREE ELECTIONS IN THAT 20 YEAR TIMEFRAME. 
          AND THEN YOU WOULD THEORETICALLY ISSUE DEBT EVERY THREE YEARS. 
          UH, 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA TAKE ALL THE DEBT OUT OUT AT ONCE AND PAY DEBT SERVICE WHILE IT TAKES YOU 10 YEARS TO BUILD ALL THESE PROJECTS. 
          SO LIKE WE'VE DONE, WE WITH THE 2016 ISSUE, GET VOTER APPROVAL, AND THEN EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS AS WE NEED FUNDS AND ARE READY TO SPEND THEM, WE, WE ISSUE THAT DEBT AFTER THE MAYOR'S QUESTION. 
          UH, OR MAYBE KIND OF, SORT OF, YOU COULD STILL ISSUE COM UH, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, WHICH DON'T REQUIRE VOTER APPROVAL. 
          THIS WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, UM, SOME OF THESE PROJECTS YOU MAY DECIDE ARE MORE SUITABLE FOR A BOND ELECTION, YOU KNOW, UM, AND THEN CREATE A NUMBER THREE IS CREATE A THREE MEMBER DEBT STEERING SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND WHAT THAT SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD DO WOULD WORK WITH CITY STAFF TO DETERMINE THE ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY TO OVERSEE AND EXECUTE EACH THREE YEAR CIP PROGRAM. 
          IT'S ONE THING TO SAY WE COULD ISSUE $200 MILLION IN DEBT NEXT YEAR, IT'S ANOTHER QUESTION TO SAY, CAN WE ADMINISTER $200 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS IN TWO YEARS? SO YOU, UH, YOU CAN'T JUST DECIDE ON HOW MUCH YOU CAN BORROW, BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW MUCH YOU CAN, UM, MANAGE AND, AND EXECUTE. 
          AND THEN THIS C COMMITTEE WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO PRIORITIZE THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF PROJECTS TO INCLUDE IN A BOND ELECTION PACKAGE SLASH CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION PACKAGED AS WELL AS, UH, THE TIMING AND SIZE OF EACH DEBT ISSUANCE. 
          NOW, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A SUBCOMMITTEE, OBVIOUSLY SUBCOMMITTEES REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL, SO, BUT, UH, THIS WOULD BE, UM, VERY, A LOT OF, A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF REGULAR WORK. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY PRIORITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES COSTS CHANGE OVER TIME. 
          UH, THE DEBT DEBT CAPACITY MODEL JUST DEMONSTRATES THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO BEGIN TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          THAT'S THE BIG TAKEAWAY IS, IS THE NUMBERS THAT THESE STUDIES HAVE PRESENTED AND, AND LAID AT THE, YOU KNOW, AT THE ES ARE STAGGERING. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAY A TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN OF $300 MILLION OVER THE NEXT 10, 20 YEARS, YOU, IF IT WERE ME SITTING UP THERE, MY EYES WILL GLAZE OVER AND SAY, WELL, NEXT LET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE. 
          SO, UM, BUT THIS, UH, THIS PRESENTATION WAS MEANT TO ONE, FIND THE ANSWER BECAUSE WE, UH, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN, WHEN TODD ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT IS THE CITY'S CAPACITY? WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT ANSWER WAS GONNA BE. 
          UM, BUT THE ANSWER IS WITH REASONABLE ASSUMPTIONS. 
          AND I DIDN'T GO INTO ALL THE DETAILS OF THE MODEL, BUT IT, ON THE TAX BASE SIDE SIDE, IT'S, IT'S STILL CONSERVATIVE. 
          I MEAN, UM, UH, SO THE, THERE IT'S NOT POT, IT'S NOT PIE IN THE SKY. 
          SO THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE APPETITE TO DISCUSS MOVING FORWARD WITH A LONG-TERM DEBT FINANCING, UM, PROGRAM AND HOW TO DO IT? WELL, ONE QUESTION, YOU, YOU KIND OF ANSWERED THAT, BUT NOT REALLY. 
          THE, YOU SAID THE, ON THE TAX SIDE, UM, IT'S VERY CONSERVATIVE. 
          CAN YOU GIVE US A, UH, ON THE PARAMETER? THE, THE, THE FINANCIAL ADVISORS REALLY IN THEIR DNA DID NOT WANT TO PROJECT MUCH AV GROWTH BEYOND FIVE YEARS. 
          THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT THEY DO IS 
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BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF, OF NEVER BEING WRONG, YOU KNOW? AND SO, UM, AFTER, AFTER FIVE YEARS OUT, SO 2030, THEY PRETTY MUCH FLATLINED GROWTH ONE AND A HALF PERCENT A YEAR. 
          NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT FIVE YEARS IS GONNA BE LIKE, AND YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SUCH THINGS AS RECESSIONS AND OTHER THINGS THAT DO HAPPEN, AND THERE COULD BE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES THAT CHANGE THE WAY PROPERTIES VALUED. 
          SO IT, IT MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, NOW, UH, TODD SHOWED THE GRAPH OF LEANDER GROWTH OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS AND, UH, UM, THEY'VE ALL BEEN IN THE 5, 10, 15, 20% RANGE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY CONSERVATIVE IS AFTER FIVE YEARS OUT, THEY, THEY JUST COULDN'T HIT THE, THE KEYBOARD. 
          THEY JUST, SO WE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE REASONABLE AFTER THAT, AND THEY WANTED TO STICK WITH THEIR, WHAT THEY TYPICALLY, UM, USE WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY RUN A, A MORE SIMPLE CALCULATION. 
          OKAY, SO SAY THAT AGAIN. 
          THE, THE FIVE YEARS WAS ONE AND A HALF, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? BEYOND FIVE YEARS WAS ONE, ONE AND A HALF 0.5%. 
          SO THE FIVE YEARS WAS IN THE, IN THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW. 
          UM, WE, WE DID, UH, THE AVERAGE OF THE PREVIOUS FIVE YEARS DROPPING THE HIGH AND THE LOW. 
          UM, THE, UM, MIDDLE OPTION WAS, UM, I THINK TAKING LAST YEAR OR THIS, THE GROWTH BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR AND GOING OUT FIVE YEARS. 
          UH, AND THEN OPTION C, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SLIDE. 
          OKAY, SO WHAT WAS THAT, WHAT IS THAT GROWTH? THAT'S IN THE, UH, IT'S IN THE, THE 10 TO 12%. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING IN THESE NUMBERS A GROWTH OF 10 TO 12% FOR THE FIVE YEARS AND FLAT LINE AFTER THAT RELATIVELY SPEAKING. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, SO THIS IS GOING TO DEBT CAPACITY. 
          THIS IS HOW MUCH DEBT WE CAN TAKE ON AND PAY WITHIN OUR TAX RATE. 
          EVERYTHING'S FINE, BUT WE GET TO THE END. 
          SO WHILE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, HOW MUCH DEBT ARE WE CARRYING AND HOW, SO WHEN WE GET TO THE END OF THIS, WE'RE CARRYING HOW MUCH DEBT? AND IT GOES FOR 30 YEARS AFTER THAT AND IT ALL KIND OF ROLLS OFF? OR HOW'S THAT ALL WORK? SO TYPICALLY, UH, WELL LEANDER, UH, WE ISSUE DEBT FOR 20 YEARS. 
          UH, BY STATE LAW YOU CAN ISSUE IS IT 40 OR IS IT 30? I THINK 30 ON THE CO. 
          30 ON THE CO. 
          UH, SO, UM, BUT WE TYPICALLY ISSUE, UM, DEBT FOR 20 YEARS. 
          SO AS YOU'RE ISSUING THIS DEBT, OBVIOUSLY EACH YEAR YOU'RE PAYING OFF SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE PRINCIPAL AND, UH, IN, UM, GENERALLY THE, UM, UM, YOU, YOU, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO A, A, UM, DEBT ISSUE THAT LOADS IT ALL TOWARDS THE END, YOU KNOW, WITH LARGE BALLOON PAYMENTS. 
          SO IT'S GENERALLY STRUCTURED. 
          SO IT'S IT'S LEVEL DEBT SERVICE, BUT THAT IT OVER, UM, OVER THE LIFE OF THE, THE BONDS, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PAYING OFF THE, THE PRINCIPAL EVENLY, I GUESS. 
          SO IS IT GONNA BE LIKE 300 MILLION IS WHAT WE'RE CARRYING AT ANY GIVEN YEAR? OR IS IT 500 MILLION AT, AT THE END OF THE YEAR? YEAR, YEAR 20. 
          BECAUSE, BECAUSE YOU'RE TO GET TO THE CAPACITY THEN YOU'RE JUST GONNA KIND OF RUN IT. 
          SO YOU KIND OF GOT THE CEILING ON HOW MUCH DEBT YOU CAN CARRY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SERVICE. 
          WELL, THIS WOULD CONTINUE. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU, YOU DID THIS FOR 40 YEARS, YOU, YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE, UM, THE, THE MODEL WOULD CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT YOU COULD ISSUE MORE DEBT AS YOU'RE PAYING OFF OLD DEBT. 
          BECAUSE YOUR ONE CHART BASICALLY SHOWS WE'RE GONNA PAY OFF ALL OUR DEBT, WHATEVER DEBT WE HAVE NOW IS GONNA GO DOWN. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA BE, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR IT WAS OUT, BUT WERE RELATIVELY DEBT FREE AS A CITY WITHIN FIVE OR SIX YEARS. 
          YES. 
          AND, AND SO IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WHEN I WAS ON THE LISD STEERING COMMITTEE, ALL THEY DO IS TALK ABOUT IS BOND CAPACITY AND BORROWING CAPACITY. 
          THAT'S THE WAY THEY THINK OF EVERYTHING AND THEY ALWAYS WANT TO KEEP IT MAX. 
          THAT'S THE WAY THEY THINK. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND SO YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE ASKING CAN WE THINK THAT WAY? 'CAUSE YOU'VE NEVER THOUGHT THAT WAY, RIGHT? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I'D SAY IT THAT WAY. 
          I, I THINK, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW IS THAT IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, 
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STUDY AFTER STUDY THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL, UM, HAS HAD REALLY HEFTY PRICE TAX. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, AND THE QUESTION IS, WERE THOSE JUST, YOU KNOW, TO BE PUT ON THE SHELF BECAUSE IT, THEY'RE SO BIG WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING. 
          OR DO WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THOSE STUDIES, UM, AND LOOK AT 'EM WITH THE IDEA THAT IF THERE IS A PROJECT OR PROJECTS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON, THE CITY OF LEANDER CAN BORROW MONEY TO DO THESE PROJECTS. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO GO ON A SPENDING SPREE OR ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO BORROW. 
          IT'S TO PUT ASIDE ANY FEAR OR CONCERN THAT IF WE DIVE INTO THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN THAT HAS A BOTTOM LINE OF $300 MILLION THAT WE'RE GONNA BLOW THE TAX RATE THROUGH THE ROOF. 
          AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO GO THERE. 
          THIS SAYS YOU CAN GO THERE AND NAVIGATE AND, AND IT WOULD TAKE YOU, UM, TIME TO WORK THROUGH THESE PROJECTS BEFORE YOU EVER MADE A DECISION ON, YEAH, LET'S, LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT OR THE THIS OR THAT, OR DEFER TO OBVIOUSLY YOU ON, ON THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, THE QUESTION WAS, OKAY, WE GOT A HUGE, HUGE PILE OF THINGS WE GOTTA DO. 
          UM, AND THE, THE CITY HAS HAD KIND OF THIS ERA, THIS GOLDEN NARROW OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS WHERE REVENUES HAVE REALLY BEEN RAMPING UP, AND THE M AND O PORTION OF TAX RATE HAS BEEN DRIVEN DOWN BECAUSE OF AV GROWTH AND THE CONTINUAL ADDITIONS TO THE, UH, TAX BASE, UH, WHICH THEN MULTIPLIES, UH, EXPONENTIALLY OVER TIME. 
          WHAT WE SEE THOUGH IS THAT THERE'S PERIODS WHERE THAT SLOWS DOWN AND THEN THERE'S DEVELOPMENT THEN CATCHES UP. 
          OR WE'VE SEEN EVIDENCE WHERE WE HAD MOMENTUM GOING, ECONOMY SLOWED DOWN, WE STOPPED, AND THEN WE PICKED BACK UP. 
          UM, WE GOT THOSE THINGS. 
          WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT WANTING A BALANCED COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO WANTING THAT JOBS TO BALANCE FOR A JOE WANTING THOSE QUALITY OF LIFE COMPONENTS THAT WE ARE BUILDING INTO THE SYSTEM. 
          WHEN WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT, AGAIN, THIS GOLDEN ERA WITH SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE GROWTH, THERE STILL HASN'T BEEN ENOUGH MONEY THAT'S BEING GENERATED TO DO A PAY GO BASIS. 
          AND WITH THE DEPRESSION ON THE PROPERTY TAX RATE DUE TO THE WAY THAT YOUR TAX RATES GET CALCULATED, YOU JUST, YOU HAVE THE DOLLARS THAT KEEP UP WITH THAT. 
          SO WE HAVE TO FIND ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO DO IT IF WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE PROJECTS. 
          SO THINK ABOUT IT, WE'VE GOT TWO FIRE STATIONS THAT NEED TO BE BUILT NOW THAT'S $40 MILLION. 
          THAT'S TO DESIGN, BUILD, BUY, LAND, AND EQUIP. 
          SO WE'VE GOT A $275 MILLION POTENTIAL PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY. 
          IF YOU KIND OF GO BACK, OR I DON'T KNOW IF, WAS IT SLIDE FOUR, UH, THAT SHOWS THE, UH, PROJECTS. 
          IT'S THIS, IT'S THIS PAGE. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME NON-NEGOTIABLES THAT YOU HAVE TO DO RIGHT NOW, UH, THE WILCO BOND PROJECTS CITY SHARE. 
          SO THERE'S $13.9 MILLION BETWEEN CRYSTAL FALLS AND BAGHDAD ROAD, YOU KNOW, SO JUST THOSE TWO PROJECTS ALONE, WE'VE GOT A COMMITMENT WITH THE COUNTY TO FUND THOSE. 
          UM, THE REC CENTER, UH, YOU'VE GOT SOME REMAINING BONDS, BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY PROBABLY CLOSER TO A $40 MILLION FACILITY PROBABLY. 
          UM, AND SO WE GOT, YOU KNOW, SAN GABRIEL PARK THAT WE NEED TO, TO GET BUILT AND, AND THAT COULD BE ANOTHER 40 OR 50 OR 60 MILLION PROJECT, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THAT FACILITY. 
          UM, THERE'S, UM, AN ITEM THAT'S GONNA BE ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS TO, EXCUSE ME, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. 
          THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN IS GONNA IDENTIFY MORE CAPITAL PROJECT NEEDS. 
          SO THE FOUNDATION OF THE CITY NEEDING THE CORE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE CORE STREETS, THE CORE DRAINAGE, THE RELIABLE UTILITIES, CREATING THE QUALITY OF PLACE THAT'S GONNA MAKE THIS PLACE ATTRACTIVE FOR JOB RECRUITMENT AND FOR BUSINESS RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION ARE ALL THINGS THAT KIND OF GO INTO THIS. 
          NOW, IT 
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DOESN'T MEAN THAT BONDS ARE THE SOLE SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THAT. 
          WE WOULD LOOK AT GRANTS, UH, WE WOULD LOOK AT, UM, UH, IMPACT FEES, WE WOULD LOOK AT AT OTHER ASSESSMENTS THAT WE CAN BRING TO THE TABLE TO HELP, TO HELP COVER SOME OF THESE COSTS. 
          UM, UH, BUT THERE'S STILL GONNA BE A NET DEFICIT THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME AND, AND STRATEGICALLY, HOW DO WE COME ALONG? ONE OF THE, THE, UM, EXCITING THINGS ABOUT RANDALL'S PRESENTATION WAS YOU LOOK AT ALL THE COMMERCIAL TAX BASE THAT'S COMING IN AND YOU LOOK AT A NICE LITTLE SHOT IN THE ARM ON THE SALES TAX THAT'S GONNA COME INTO THAT, THAT'S GOOD. 
          BUT THE SALES TAX IS A, IS NOT A SURE THING. 
          SO WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT SETTING ASIDE MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL RESERVES OR CREATING SOME ADDITIONAL POLICIES THAT, THAT WON'T GIVE US MAYBE THE FULL BENEFIT TO THAT. 
          WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, UH, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GONNA START TO UTILIZE THAT TO FUND MORE AND MORE RECURRING OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          SO WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS REALLY NOT, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT IT'S REALLY, IS THIS A STRATEGY THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO PUT INTO THE TOOLBOX AND ALLOW US TO KIND OF CREATE A PROGRAM TO COME BACK TO YOU? AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE CONVERSATION AS WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. 
          YEAH, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO ANSWER WHAT YOU SAID THAT THE QUESTION IS WHAT, WHAT IS BEING ASKED OF US TODAY? THERE IS, NUMBER ONE, UH, DO WE WANNA START THE PROCESS TO TACKLE, TO TACKLE THIS? I THINK THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY HEAR AN OVERWHELMING YES FROM THIS COUNCIL, BUT I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND SEE LOTS OF NODS. 
          UM, IF YES, DO YOU WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS, MODERATE, OR AGGRESSIVE? I MEAN, MY INITIAL THING IS TO SAY MODERATE BECAUSE IT'S IN THE MIDDLE, BUT LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND, AND I THINK WE MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT THERE, BUT THAT'S MY PERSONALITY TYPE AND MAYBE JUST BEING SAFE. 
          WELL, AND I ALMOST WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN START THE PROCESS NOW AND BE, YOU KNOW, VERY CONSERVATIVE ABOUT IT. 
          AS WE STILL WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND ALL OF THE THINGS, BECAUSE WHAT'S NOT LISTED HERE ARE THINGS LIKE A NEW PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY, WHICH WE KNOW THAT WE NEED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE WHOLE FACILITIES DISCUSSION. 
          SO MAYBE WE START SMALL AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE WILLING TO DISCUSS THIS. 
          WHAT ARE SOME OF THESE PRIORITY PROJECTS WHILE WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THE REST LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE THAT'S NUMBER THREE. 
          AND DO WE SET UP A PRIOR PRIORITIZATION PROCESS? YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          BUT ON THE NEXT PAGE, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S ABOUT DEBT. 
          WHEN WE ISSUE DEBT, I'M THINKING MORE OF A PRIORITIZATION PROCESS FOR WHAT PROJECTS. 
          SO LIKE, LIKE, LIKE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN IS LISTED AND I JUST SCROLLED THROUGH ALL OF THE PROJECTS IN THERE AND A LOT OF 'EM ARE LIKE, EH, YEAH, THAT'S A NICE TO HAVE PROJECT. 
          AND THEN THERE'S ONES WHERE IT'S LIKE, OH MY GOSH, WE TALK ABOUT HOW THIS IS A PROBLEM ALL OF THE TIME AND WE NEVER HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT. 
          WE SHOULD DO THIS. 
          SURE, YEAH. 
          WHICH PROJECTS ARE PRIORITY? YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE, I THINK, TO IDENTIFY WHICH ONES. 
          WE USED TO HAVE THAT AT 1.2. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS CONSTRUCTIVE OR NOT, BUT YES, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING SOME, SOME OF US WORKING WITH STAFF TO, TO MAKE SURE OR BRING IT ALL BACK TO US. 
          AND WE HAVE A WORKSHOP, BUT I THINK A SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE GOOD. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? I THINK YOU WERE SAYING WE ARE GONNA GO THROUGH A PRIORITIZATION, ISN'T THAT PART OF TODAY OR IS THAT PART OF YEAH, I WANTED TO HAVE A, A KIND OF A, A TOP LEVEL DISCUSSION ABOUT PRIORITIZATION. 
          UM, AND SO THERE'S REALLY, UH, A COUPLE DIFFERENT LEVELS TRADITIONALLY I THINK THAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT THAT. 
          UM, UH, SO IF YOU KIND OF GO BACK TO THE CITY CHARTER, THE CITY CHARTER HAS SOME VERY SPECIFIC PROCESSES THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW WITH REGARD TO PRESENTING A CIP TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THEN ON UP TO COUNCIL, THERE'S SOME PUBLIC HEARING PROCESSES WITH THAT. 
          SO THAT'S ONE PIECE OF IT THAT'S ALREADY, UM, REALLY THERE IN THE CITY'S BYLAWS. 
          SO, UM, THE OTHER PIECE TO THAT IS LOOKING AT CREATING A PROGRAM THAT IS GOING TO REALLY BE DESIGNED TO MEET COMMUNITY NEEDS. 
          SO STAFF WILL GO TO WORK PUTTING TOGETHER A CAPITAL PROGRAM BASED ON SOME TECHNICAL NEEDS. 
          WE SAY, WELL, OKAY, WE GOT A B AND C HAPPENING. 
          THESE ARE THINGS WE THINK NEED TO HAPPEN. 
          AND, UM, WE'LL GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO EVALUATE AND, AND HAVE A SCORING SYSTEM TO PUT NUMBERS TO THAT. 
          UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO FILTER THROUGH WHAT THE COUNCIL PRIORITIES REALLY ARE FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE. 
          AND SO, UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT MATRICES AND DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT IT. 
          I WAS, I I'VE PROBABLY BEEN THROUGH ABOUT 40, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT MATRIX THAT ARE USED BY COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY IN TERMS OF HOW THEY LOOK AT THIS. 
          BUT THEY REALLY KIND OF BOIL DOWN TO BASICALLY TYPICALLY FOUR, I'M SORRY, FIVE TO SIX BASIC KIND OF CRITERIA. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROJECTS THAT ADDRESS QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS THAT ADDRESS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRODUCT, YOU 
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KNOW, THAT MEET HEALTH AND SAFETY MANDATES. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME OF THOSE CORE THINGS. 
          AND SO WE CAN IDENTIFY THOSE, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY EASILY. 
          BUT THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES HOW DO YOU WAIT AND HOW DO YOU THEN SCORE THOSE PROJECTS IN TERMS OF WHICH OF THOSE CRITERIA ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT TO YOU? UM, IF IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, MAYBE IT WAITS AT A, AT A 1.5 VERSUS, UM, HEALTH AND SAFETY, WHICH MAY BE A ONE FIVE OR A TWO. 
          SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS OR TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT ARE, THAT WE WANT TO USE TO LOOK AT THESE AND, AND EVALUATE AND THEN SCORE THOSE AND WEIGHT THOSE ISSUES HIGHER THAT ARE MORE IMPORTANT AND MORE NECESSARY. 
          ANOTHER IMPORTANT ELEMENT THOUGH TO THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN PUT THE MONEY TOGETHER AND GO BUILD A BUNCH OF NEW PARKS AND, AND BALL FIELDS, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAIN MANAGE THEM AND OPERATE THEM AND DO THE MAINTENANCE ON THEM? SO ANOTHER KEY QUESTION THAT WE HAVE TO EVALUATE WHEN WE PUT THESE THINGS TOGETHER IS, UM, OKAY, CAN WE ABSORB THAT EXTRA HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TO RUN THAT PARK ON THE SYSTEM WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? UM, SO WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS, UH, AS WELL AS WE LOOK AT THAT. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING IS THERE'S ONLY ONE TONY BETTIS IN THE WORLD AND, UM, YOU KNOW, CAN TONY ABSORB AND MANAGE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PROJECTS AT A TIME? UM, PROBABLY NOT. 
          AND SO THEN WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE DELIVER THAT AND CAN WE SPEND THOSE DOLLARS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THAT THREE YEAR TIME PERIOD BASICALLY. 
          THE OTHER THING TOO IS, OKAY, SO AS WE BEGIN TO BREAK THESE PROJECTS DOWN, WE MAY SAY THIS ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT IS NUMBER ONE. 
          OKAY, IT'S NUMBER ONE. 
          WE CAN'T DELIVER THAT PROJECT FOR FIVE YEARS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS. 
          WE MAY HAVE TO DO RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION. 
          SO THERE'S A PROCESS. 
          SO WE MAY LOOK AT SEED MONEY THAT COMES UP FIRST, AND THERE'S STRATEGIES ON HOW TO DO THAT. 
          DO YOU USE CASH OUT OF POCKET? REIMBURSE YOURSELF LATER THERE, THERE'S DIFFERENT STRATEGIES THAT THAT COME TOGETHER. 
          AND SO, SO WE NEED TO KIND OF PUT THAT TOGETHER. 
          BUT, UM, I KNOW I JUST SAID A LOT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WORD SALAD. 
          I KNOW. 
          UM, BUT IT DOES, IT'S ALL LINKED UP HERE, I PROMISE YOU. 
          SO I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, DO Y'ALL HAVE A SENSE RIGHT NOW, ARE THERE SOME KEY FACTORS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT YOU COULD KIND OF IDENTIFY TODAY THAT YOU WOULD SAY ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU WITH REGARD TO THE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT WE ARE MOST NEEDING RIGHT NOW? PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AND THE REAGAN CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS? I THINK THOSE ARE THE, MY TOP COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS, I FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN WANTING TO SAY SOMETHING. 
          WELL, I GUESS I'M GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION ON THE SHEET, AND NORMALLY I'M A VERY MODERATE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD KIND OF GAL, BUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS, AND MY THOUGHT IS, IS THAT WE'RE ALREADY, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEHIND. 
          I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ALREADY PLAYING CATCH UP. 
          AND SO PART OF ME SAYS IF UNDER VERY CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTIONS WE CAN BE AGGRESSIVE, THEN, THEN THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE PATHWAY I WOULD PICK. 
          BECAUSE I THINK IF WE CAN DO THE LONG RANGE PLANNING AND NOT PIECEMEAL IT, UM, BECAUSE SO MANY THINGS, AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'VE SEEN THAT WITH THE SENIOR CENTER AND THE REC CENTER BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO VERY INDIVIDUAL THINGS THAT WERE BONDED YEARS AGO THAT WE WERE HAMSTRUNG OR ARE HAMSTRUNG TRYING TO FINISH THOSE PROJECTS. 
          BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT 'EM IN THE BIG SCHEME OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO, THEY, THEY REALLY AREN'T THE HIGHEST PRIORITY. 
          BUT, BUT BECAUSE WE TOOK THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THINGS ON A BIGGER SCALE, WE'RE BACK FILLING. 
          AND MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE, AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA GET TOO FAR OUTTA MY SKIS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE MINK TELLS YOU YOU CAN TAKE OUT A GAZILLION DOLLARS, BUT YOU'RE LIKE, NO, I REALLY CAN'T  I CAN TAKE OUT HALF OF THAT. 
          AND, AND SO IF WE'RE THINKING IN THOSE TERMS, THEN I WOULD BE, UM, WILLING TO TAKE THE, THE BIGGER CHUNK AND BE A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH IT TO TRY TO GET THESE THINGS DONE AS LONG AS WE'RE DOING THEM THOUGHTFULLY. 
          GENERAL COMMENT WOULD BE, IF THERE IS ANY WAY, UH, JUST SHOWING US IS THERE A WAY TO DO THIS AND HOW IS IT POSSIBLE BY KEEPING THE SAME TAX RATE? YES. 
          UM, THAT WOULD BE AN OVERALL, LIKE IF IT'S LIKE A, WHAT OUR TEMPERATURE IS, WHATEVER'S THE MAXIMUM WE CAN DO WITH 
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KEEPING THAT THERE, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          YES, I AGREE. 
          UM, AND OVERALL JUST TRANS, I MEAN, TRANSPORTATION NEEDS ARE GONNA BE, UM, SOME OF OUR BIGGEST ONES COMING THROUGH HERE. 
          AND I THINK THE FACILITIES THING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR YEARS, I THINK, UM, IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE ACTUALLY HAD SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY, YES, WE NEED TO DO THIS, AND WE REALLY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. 
          OR WE, WE, WE, WE DID SOME STUFF, BUT WE NEVER WENT ANYWHERE WITH IT. 
          AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM AND THEN EVERY CITIZEN BECAUSE OF THAT TOO. 
          SO I DO THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN PRETTY SERIOUSLY RIGHT NOW. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS, THAT I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE ONLY BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED, ONLY COMPLETING 45% OF THE PROJECTS AND THE TIME, IF WE GO SLOW AND THEN UP TO 60, IT STILL DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS BECAUSE WE ARE SO FAR BEHIND. 
          AND THEN THAT WILL MAKE US EVEN FURTHER BEHIND. 
          SO WHAT CAN WE DO, OF COURSE, TO BE THOUGHTFUL, BUT TO GET AHEAD, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE BOND PART OF THIS. 
          SO HOW DO WE STAY OUTTA GOING FOR BONDS THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS TO FUND? SO WE, WE, WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS. 
          ONE IS, UM, OR ONE OPTION, UH, OTHER THAN, UM, VOTER APPROVED BONDS AND THAT'S WHAT IS CALLED CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. 
          THAT'S WHAT WAS DONE MOST RECENTLY. 
          UH, WE CALL 'EM COS UH, AS OPPOSED TO GOS. 
          UM, THE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WITH THE, THE PROCESS WITH, UH, ISSUING A A CO IS THAT, UH, THERE'S A WAITING PERIOD. 
          UH, THE COUNCIL VOTES TO, UM, SET A DATE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON ISSUING THAT DEBT. 
          AND, AND RESIDENTS HAVE, UM, 45 DAYS TO FILE A PETITION AND SAY, NO, WE WANT TO PUT THAT TO A VOTE. 
          UM, SO THERE'S A WAITING PERIOD AND THEN IF THERE IS NO PETITION, THEN THE COUNCIL, UH, CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, ISSUING THAT, THAT DEBT. 
          SO IT'S STILL DEBT, IT'S JUST A PROCESS DIFFERENCE. 
          UM, NOW WHEN YOU ISSUE COS IT'S FOR A, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC PROJECTS AND, UM, YOU THEN ISSUE THE DEBT WITH A A, A GEO, YOU'RE GIVING, YOU'RE GIVEN THE AUTHORITY BY THE VOTERS TO ISSUE DEBT, BUT YOU'RE UNDER NO REQUIREMENT TO ISSUE IT ALL AT ONCE OR TO STAGGER IT OUT. 
          LEANDER DOES HAVE ONE WRINKLE THAT NOT EVERYONE ELSE HAS IN OUR CHARTER. 
          UH, IT SAYS THAT VOTER APPROVED DEBT OR, UH, VOTER APPROVED DEBT, UH, AUTHORIZATION HAS TO BE ISSUED WITHIN 10 YEARS. 
          SO IT, IT HAS AN EXPIRATION DATE. 
          UH, THAT'S NOT IN STATE STATUTE, BUT IN OUR CHARTER IT IS. 
          SO IF, UM, ANOTHER REASON FOR THE SLIDE TO TAKE A 10 YEAR WINDOW, UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S THE MAXIMUM THAT WE COULD REALLY USE IS THAT, UM, NOW ON UTILITY DEBT WHERE IT'S PAID FOR BY REVENUES, THEY, THEY CAN, WHICH WE DON'T DO, WE, WE, UM, ARE NOT YET BIG ENOUGH TO ISSUE UTILITY DEBT WITHOUT BEING BACKED BY, UH, TAXES. 
          UH, EVEN THOUGH THEY PAY FOR IT. 
          YOU CAN ISSUE REVENUE DEBT WITHOUT VOTER APPROVAL, BUT THEN YOU CAN'T USE TAXES IF YOU GET INTO A PINCH. 
          BUT I'LL BE HONEST, EVEN IF WE WERE TO SELL 40 MILLION TO 50 MILLION TOMORROW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD REALLY DEPLOY THE FUNDS. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, SO WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE FROM THAT CONTEXT OF THIS IS WHAT YOU COULD HAVE CAPACITY FOR AND, AND CONSERVATIVELY HAVE CAPACITY FOR, BUT CAN WE REALLY EXECUTE ON THAT? YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S JUST, AND IF IT WAS WELL PLANNED OUT OVER TIME AND IT WAS DELIBERATE RIGHT NOW AND INTENTIONAL, THEN WE PROBABLY COULD DO THOSE THINGS, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          SO WE'RE IN FAVOR OF THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAY HELP TOO ON THE PRIORITIZATION IS IN THE BUDGET SUPPLEMENT WE HAD INCLUDED, UM, SOME DOLLARS TO TRY TO DO A COMMUNITY SURVEY. 
          UH, AND SO, AND PART OF THAT EFFORT WOULD BE TO FIND OUT WHAT THE CITIZENS FEEL ABOUT LIVING IN LEANDER TODAY AND WHAT THEY FEEL ABOUT THE LEVEL SOURCES THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING AND WHAT ADDITIONAL THINGS DO THEY WANNA SEE. 
          SO I THINK THAT'LL BE VERY HELPFUL WITH REGARD TO ALSO HELPING TO DIAL IN, IN KIND OF WHAT PRIORITIES WILL BE KIND OF MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY IT'D BE GREAT TO DEVELOP A 10 YEAR CIP THOSE GET REALLY, REALLY COMPLICATED . 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, 
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OUR FIRST EFFORT IS REALLY TO TRY TO GET TO THAT FIVE YEAR CIP THERE'S ALL SORTS OF INVOLVEMENT, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT PROCESSES THAT YOU CAN DO. 
          YOU KNOW, DO YOU, DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, PLANNING COMM, PLANNING COMMISSION, LIKE YOU HAVE TO NOW GO THROUGH THAT PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. 
          DO YOU WANNA LAUNCH A BROADER PERSPECTIVE TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH A BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEE OR, OR SOME SORT OF CITIZEN ADVISORY GROUP THAT THEN GETS TOGETHER AND THEN PROVIDES SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU CAN THEN BASE THE PROJECT ON IF YOU GO THAT ROUTE? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD DO IS WE DISCUSS WHAT THAT COMMITTEE, HOW WE WOULD GET THIS DONE, YOU KNOW, BUT WE WOULD WANNA RACK UP AND, AND LINE UP PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE A REASONABLE IDENTITY IN TERMS OF HOW WE COULD FIND IT IF WE THINK, OKAY, THERE'S A GRANT HERE. 
          IT'S NOT THAT IT'S A GIVEN, BUT WE ARE TARGETING THAT GRANT POTENTIALLY TO, TO GET THAT DONE, UH, AND, AND GO THAT DIRECTION. 
          SO WE, WE WOULD JUST UNDERSTAND AND BEGIN TO KNOW WHERE TO BE ABLE TO SET THOSE THINGS UP AND WHAT AVENUES TO START CHASING DOWN AS WE LOOK AT THAT. 
          SO I, I WILL SAY ONE OTHER THING THAT THE, UM, IN THE OR EARLIER MASTER FACILITIES PLAN THAT SHOWED UP ON THE, THE LIST $275 MILLION THAT, THAT DID INCLUDE, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, UM, AS WELL AS CITY HALL AND PUBLIC WORKS AND SO ON. 
          THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT DID INCLUDE, THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND SO THERE MAY BE A LITTLE, UH, OVERLAP ON FIRE STATIONS IN THAT PLAN AS WELL, BUT IT, IT INCLUDED, UH, TRAINING FIELDS AND, AND, UM, A POLICE STATION AND, AND FIRE ADMIN AND TRAINING FACILITIES AS WELL. 
          PERFECT. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNSEL. 
          THOUGHTS? UM, I THINK, I THINK A SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE GOOD. 
          I THINK IF WE ASK RIGHT NOW, EVERYBODY'S GONNA SAY, YEAH, I WANNA BE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, SO WHY DON'T WE ALL THINK ABOUT IT, THINK ABOUT THE, THE COMMITMENT. 
          'CAUSE I THINK THIS WOULD TAKE SOME TIME. 
          AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, EMAIL DARA BY MONDAY. 
          FAIR. 
          AND THEN IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED FROM US RIGHT NOW TODAY? I DON'T THINK SO. 
          UM, SUBCOMMITTEE, SO DO YOU WANT TO PUT THAT ON AN AGENDA FOR AUGUST 15? DO YOU WANNA PUT THAT FOR LATER? SURE. 
          WE CAN DO IT FOR AUGUST 15TH. 
          AUGUST 15TH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL SEE WHAT RESPONSES WE GET. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN HOW TO DEAL WITH IT AFTER THAT. 
          GOTCHA. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE ALL LIKE OPTIMISTIC, BUT VERY CAUTIOUS. 
          SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE'RE NOT MESSING THIS UP, BUT THIS IS FANTASTIC. 
          SO IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          YEAH, MAN. 
          IT'S GOTTA BRING IN THE BANK. 
           FALLS ON HIS SHOULDERS. 
          IT'S LIKE WE, WE DID TALK THE OTHER DAY AND, AND DID TELL RANDALL THAT THE ENTIRE FUTURE OF THE CITY OF LEANDER IS ON HIS SHOULDERS. 
          . 
          SO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          DID Y'ALL WANT TO TAKE A, A QUICK BREAK? YOU WANNA TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES OR WE DIVE INTO, YOU WANNA TAKE 10 OR POWER THROUGH? WE'VE GOT B AND C ON HERE STILL GROWTH. 
          HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THESE ARE GONNA TAKE? WELL, WE HAVE YOU TILL AT LEAST SIX 30, RIGHT? . 
          LET'S TAKE, LET'S TAKE FIVE MINUTES. 
          UH, THE TIME RIGHT NOW IS 4 0 9. 
          BE BACK AT FOUR 15. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'RE BACK IN SESSION AT 4:19 PM WE ARE STILL ON ITEM NUMBER SIX NOW, ONTO B, GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND CERTIFICATE OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, CCN AND EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION ETJA. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO I GUESS ONE OF THE MORE, UH, RECENT, UH, ISSUES THAT KIND OF HIGHLIGHT, UH, SOME OF THIS IS, UM, THE AREA NORTH OF THE CITY BETWEEN, UM, LEANDER AND LIBERTY HILL. 
          SO THAT'S AN AREA WHERE WE'VE GOT CITY CCN AND THEN LIBERTY HILL HAS THEIR ETJ. 
          AND SO WE'VE HAD THAT CHALLENGE WITH REGARD TO AN INDIVIDUAL WHO'S REQUESTING SERVICE, UH, WATER AND UTILITY SERVICE. 
          UM, SO THERE'S A, UM, A PROCESS TO THAT. 
          UM, IT BEING IN OUR CCM, WE HAVE REALLY, I GUESS THE DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD. 
          YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT AND THE RESPONSIBILITY TO SERVE WITHIN THOSE AREAS. 
          UM, SERVICE CAN BE EXTENDED PURSUANT TO CITY POLICY. 
          AND 
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YOU KNOW, THE CITY POLICY IS WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BRING THE UTILITIES TO YOU, IT'S ON YOU TO BRING THE UTILITIES TO YOURSELF. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAVE AN ANNEXATION REQUIREMENT AS WELL. 
          SO YOU AGREE TO ANNEX, YOU EXTEND THE UTILITIES, AND THEN WE'RE PROVIDING THE SERVICE, YOU KNOW, PAST THAT POINT. 
          UM, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL AREAS THAT ARE KIND OF GETTING OUT TOWARDS THE EDGE OF THE CITY, UM, WITHIN OUR, UH, CCN AND IN OUR ETJ. 
          UH, AS YOU KIND OF GO BACK OUT, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU GO WEST OF THE CITY. 
          UM, AND UH, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING TO ONE COMMUNITY NOW, UH, MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY ON NAMELESS. 
          DID I GET THAT RIGHT? OR NAMELESS RIGHT? MM-HMM, . 
          UM, SO AT, AT THE AGE OF TREES, SO NOW I'M LAUGHING 'CAUSE I KEPT CALLING IT NO NAME. 
          YEAH. 
          SO NAMELESS THE ROAD THAT SHE'LL REMAIN NAMELESS, UM, WHERE THERE'S A REQUEST FOR EMERGENCY EXTENSIONS AND OF SERVICE AND, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          SO REALLY FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE REALLY KIND OF BEGAN TRYING TO NEEDLE THROUGH, UM, KIND OF WHAT ALL THIS MEANS AND, AND KIND OF WHAT THE, THE SITUATION WAS, UM, WITH REGARD TO HOW TO MANAGE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE GROWTH PIECES AND, AND UH, ELEMENTS. 
          AND, AND REALLY I GUESS WE'RE JUST KIND OF INTRODUCING THIS ISSUE TO YOU GUYS. 
          UM, AGAIN, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION AND SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH AND, AND KIND OF BRING THAT FORWARD. 
          UM, BUT THERE IS AN EMERGING SET OF ISSUES THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BEGIN TO TACKLE. 
          UM, AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT DIRECTION THAT GOES AT THIS POINT. 
          WE NEED TO WORK WITH PAIGE AND KIND OF WORK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE ISSUES, UM, AND TRY TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR OPTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES ARE. 
          UM, WE WILL NEED TO ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION WITH LIBERTY HILL HERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          'CAUSE WE DO NEED TO WORK THROUGH THAT PUC ISSUE AND WE DO NEED TO WORK THROUGH HOW WE'RE GOING TO, UM, UH, TRY TO RESOLVE THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION. 
          UM, FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE AS WE LOOK AT IT, THERE'S AREAS WHERE IT JUST MAY NOT MAKE SENSE FOR THE CITY TO WANT TO TRY TO SERVE. 
          THEY MAY BE AREAS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE VERY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. 
          UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE HARD TO GET TO. 
          THEY'RE GONNA BE HARD TO SERVE AND, UM, NOT SURE IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE LANDOWNER OR TO THE CITY TO FORCE ANNEXATIONS INTO SOME OF THOSE AREAS. 
          UM, SO WE MAY NEED TO GO BACK AND EVALUATE OUR POLICY. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S AREAS THAT WE CAN JUST UNILATERALLY SAY WE DON'T WANNA SERVE THAT AREA. 
          WE'RE GONNA SKIP LET THAT OUT OF OUR CCN. 
          SO THERE MAY BE IMPLICATIONS TO US WITH REGARD TO YOUR CERTIFICATED FOR THIS AREA. 
          AND THIS IS AN AREA THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SERVE. 
          WE HAVE TO GO TO THE PUC TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND REQUEST AMENDMENTS TO SOME OF THOSE CERTIFICATED AREAS. 
          I KNOW PAIGE, IF I, IF I MURDERED THAT TOO BADLY. 
          NO, NO, THAT, THAT, THAT COVERED IT VERY WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, SO REALLY I GUESS I'M JUST KIND OF GIVING YOU KIND OF THE LAY DOWN OR THE LOW DOWN OF, OF WHAT WE'RE KIND OF DEALING WITH RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT. 
          SO WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH SOME ADDITIONAL IDEAS AND THOUGHTS AND, UH, SOME PROBABLY RECOMMENDATIONS OR OPTIONS IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE GONNA START DEALING WITH SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. 
          BUT LIKE I SAID, NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS, IS LIBERTY HILL AND, UH, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO, WHAT WE NEED TO DO, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          WAS THERE ANYTHING YOU NEEDED FROM US? I DON'T, NOT AT THIS TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          NOT AT THIS TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          ROBIN, WAS THERE ANYTHING, GINA, I, MIKE, ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO TOUCH ON? OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ON TO SEE REGIONAL COLLABORATION ON ISSUES OF REGIONAL SIGNIFICANCE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND REALLY I THINK COUNCIL HERRERA HAD KIND OF RAISED THIS AS PART OF A DISCUSSION POINT FOR THIS MEETING TODAY. 
          SO I THINK WE'VE TOUCHED ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT JUST GONNA KIND OF TURN IT TO YOU AND SEE WHAT YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS IS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT ARE LARGER THAN OUR CITY AND THERE ARE REGIONAL ISSUES AND YOU KNOW, AS I'VE LEARNED MORE, I SEE THAT WE ARE IN COLLABORATION ON DIFFERENT THINGS AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US STEP UP OUR GAME IN THAT AREA. 
          I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO WORK ON EMPHASIZING AND USING OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, NOT JUST YOUR CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE, , BUT THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT REPRESENT LEANDER IN ORDER TO REPRESENT OUR ISSUES RELATED TO WATER, RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION, RELATED TO RAIL 
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AND ALL THAT. 
          I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO WORK ON QUITE HEAVILY AND TRY TO GET INTO BIGGER, DEEPER POCKETS AND HAVE THEM RESOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE PUSHED DOWN TO US THAT ARE KIND OF LIKE, I GUESS, UH, UNFUNDED MANDATES IN A SENSE. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, RAIL'S AN EASY ONE WITH RELATED TO CAP METRO. 
          I THINK THAT'S A REALLY A REGIONAL ISSUE AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IN THE LONG RUN CAP METRO, THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WOULD AGREE THAT THEY NEED A DEEPER POCKET THAN LEANDER TO REACH INTO. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO KIND OF WORK ON WORKING IN THEM WITH AND GETTING MORE OUTTA THAT RELATIONSHIP. 
          I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO TO, UM, WATER, WE NEED TO KIND OF LOOK AT OTHER SOLUTIONS TO BASICALLY BRING MORE WATER INTO THERE. 
          NOW IT'S REALLY NICE, IT RAINED THE LAST FEW DAYS, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY OF US EXPECTED JULY TO BE WET. 
          AND UH, MY PERSONAL FEELING WHEN I CAME ON COUNCIL WAS I THOUGHT WE'D WOULD BE WORRYING ABOUT THE BARGE ALL SUMMER AND THAT WE WOULD BE IN WHATEVER STAGE IS NEXT STARTING IN JUNE. 
          BUT I THINK THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THAT WE HAVE EITHER SOME KIND OF A TASK FORCE OR SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT ALL I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UH, CAMPO IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IS A REGIONAL THING AND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WORK ON. 
          I'D LIKE TO MORE EDUCATION ABOUT THAT, A WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING AND HOW WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. 
          IS THAT ENOUGH? SO I DON'T, UH, I DON'T FULLY FOLLOW ON LIKE SOME OF IT I, I DO AND, BUT I DON'T FULLY FOLLOW ON. 
          LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY, UM, LIKE WORKING ON THE CAP METRO ISSUE AND, AND THEY NEED DEEPER POCKETS. 
          ARE YOU SAYING, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND OTHER CITIES TO TRY AND CHANGE THE FUNDING SO THAT IT'S COUNTY BASED? OR ARE YOU TRYING TO, OR ARE YOU SAYING YOU WANNA SEE MORE CITIES ELECT INTO CAT METRO? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? SO I THINK OVERALL, I THINK THE WAY THE TAXATION GOES FOR THAT AND THE AGREEMENT, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE, IT'S A STATE THING. 
          I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO WORK AT THE STATE LEVEL TO LOOK AT CHANGING THE FUNDING MECHANISM FOR IT AND, AND PRESSURE OUR REPRESENTATIVES, OUR STATE SENATORS TO GET IT TO WHERE IT CHANGES FOR THE WHOLE STATE. 
          I KNOW IT'S A BIG LIFT, BUT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OTHER AREAS WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN. 
          SO I THINK WHAT YOU, UH, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT, UM, WE NEED TO LIKE, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES THIS YEAR AND SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE IN THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND THEN YEAH, MAYBE WE REACH OUT TO OTHER OFFICIALS TO PRESSURE THEIR LEGISLATORS TO HELP WITH THAT EFFORT. 
          DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? YEAH, I THINK THAT WE ALSO HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE. 
          IT'S NOT JUST ENOUGH TO SAY, HEY, LET'S PRESSURE 'EM, LET'S COME UP WITH AN IDEA OR LATCH ONTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S BETTER IDEA TO PUSH FORWARD. 
          BECAUSE I, I REALLY THINK THAT IN THE LONG RUN FOR THEM, THE, THE SITUATION THEY'RE IN IS NOT THAT IS IS UNTENABLE. 
          UM, AND I THINK FOR US IT'S VERY DETRI DETRIMENTAL TO US AND I JUST THINK THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF WORK ON AND IF, AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO PUT UP FOR A VOTE NEXT TIME. 
          BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT RELATIONSHIP. 
          I THINK THAT LIKE A REGIONAL EFFORT FROM OTHER CITIES AROUND HERE TO FIND OUT HOW WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND WORK WITH THE STATE LEGISLATORS TO POSSIBLY CHANGE THE AGREEMENT OR THE AMOUNT THAT A CITY HAS TO, UM, CONTRIBUTE TO BE IN THERE. 
          AND THE, AND THE BENEFIT FOR SOMEBODY FOR CAP METRO IS TO INCREASE THEIR RIDERSHIP REGIONALLY, RIGHT? LIKE, I THINK THAT'S HOW WE COME TOGETHER ON THOSE THINGS. 
          SO IF THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE DOING TOGETHER, I THINK THAT'S A WAY TO TO, TO TRY TO TACKLE, UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          AND YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          AND I ALSO THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS HAS SOMETHING ON THAT. 
          WE ACTUALLY, ALL OF THAT STUFF IS HAPPENING. 
          UM, THERE ARE, THERE ARE ACTIVE CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES, THERE ARE ACTIVE CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING WITHIN CAP METRO. 
          THERE ARE, BECAUSE THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS. 
          THERE'S A LONG GAME AND THERE'S A SHORT GAME HERE. 
          THE LONG GAME IS GETTING THE FUNDING MECHANISM CHANGED. 
          THERE ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS, THERE ARE, UM, COMMUNITY STAFFS THAT ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THOSE COMMUNICATIONS IN ADDITION WITH CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AROUND THE AREA. 
          SO ALTHOUGH YOU MAY NOT SEE IT, IT IS ABSOLUTELY HAPPENING. 
          AND THEN THE SHORT GAME IS, UM, IS FIGURING OUT, BECAUSE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS GOING TO BE A KEY TO OUR CITY WHEN WE'RE 250,000 PEOPLE. 
          AND SO IT IS FIGURING OUT HOW AS WE GROW INTO OUR PUBLIC TRANSIT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND HOW DOES IT MAKE SENSE SO THAT WE'RE BEST UTILIZING LEANDER OR DOLLARS THAT COULD BE LANDERS. 
          UM, THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE ACTIVELY HAPPENING WITH, UM, STAFF. 
          UM, TODD AND I ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT IT YESTERDAY. 
          UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING. 
          SO ALTHOUGH YOU MAY NOT SEE IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THERE AND ACTIVE AND I'M HAPPY TO GIVE YOU MORE DETAIL, BUT, UM, BUT PLEASE DON'T THINK THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS AREN'T HAPPENING. 
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SORRY, I CAN RECRUIT HIM TO DO IT TOO. 
          RIGHT? SO LIKE, AND LIKE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP FROM THESE EFFORTS IS LIKE THE, THE MAYOR WHO JUST RETIRED OUT OF, UM, OUT OF TAYLOR, THEY'RE GETTING SAMSUNG AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP FOR THEM WHEN THEY DID ONE OF THE SOUTH KOREA VISITS IS THE SOUTH KOREAN OFFICIALS ARE BLOWN AWAY THAT THERE'S NO MASS TRANSIT OUT ON THAT SIDE OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY, EVEN WITH A ROBUST SYSTEM, THEY STILL SAY IT'S THEIR NUMBER ONE STRUGGLE IS GETTING PEOPLE AROUND. 
          UM, AND THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM AS THESE COMPANIES COME IN AND PEOPLE THAT ARE USED TO MASS TRANSIT DON'T HAVE IT. 
          AND SO IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY MAKING ITSELF MORE KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AS AN ISSUE THAT IS OF INTEREST TO ALL OF US, UM, AND AMPLIFYING OUR VOICES. 
          BUT YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING YOU IN ON THAT. 
          THE, THE MORE PEOPLE WE CAN GET TO SAY TO THEIR NETWORK, WE NEED THIS, IT'S HOW WE'RE GONNA CHANGE HEARTS AND MINDS. 
          RIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, IS STARTING TO HAPPEN TO IS THE AREA CITY MANAGERS ARE STARTING TO TO PLAN, UH, MEETINGS TO START TO GET TOGETHER. 
          AND THE OBJECTIVE IS REALLY TO BE IN, TO IDENTIFY AND DEVELOP COOPERATIVE PLATFORMS TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT REGIONAL ISSUES, WATER NUMBER ONE. 
          SO, UH, A FEW OF US WERE TALKING EARLY ON ABOUT THIS AND WE SAID, OKAY, WHAT ARE THINGS WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT MOST EVERYBODY CAN KINDA JOIN INTO AND KIND OF WORK TOGETHER ON? UM, EVERYBODY NEEDS TRANSPORTATION, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO WORRY ABOUT THE WATER SITUATION. 
          UM, WE NEED A COHESIVE LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM. 
          SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE THREE BASIC THINGS THAT, UH, HAD KIND OF RISEN TO THE SURFACE. 
          SO I THINK COMING UP HERE, I THINK HERE IN AUGUST, UH, WE'LL TRY TO HAVE THAT INITIAL MEETING. 
          UM, IT COULD VERY WELL BE ANOTHER KIND OF THINKING OUT LOUD MAYBE, YOU KNOW, UH, CAP METRO MIGHT BE A POINT OF DISCUSSION THAT WE CAN KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO A LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM. 
          UM, AND WE CAN PLAY OUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND ABSOLUTELY AND IT SHOULD BE, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS AS UM, 'CAUSE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS ALSO PULLING TOGETHER LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE AND TRANSPORTATION IS A KEY BECAUSE AGAIN, IT GETS BACK TO, UM, THE CHAMBER HAS A DIFFERENT FOCUS THAN THE CITY, BUT A LOT OF THINGS OVERLAP. 
          AND ONE OF THOSE IS TRANSPORTATION AND IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A REGIONAL ISSUE, BUT THE FUNDING IS LOCAL, RIGHT? SO THEY DON'T MATCH UP AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE DONUT HOLES AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE, SO, AND CAP METRO HAS COME TO THE TABLE AND SAID THEY AGREE THAT THAT HAS, UM, THAT THAT IS THE CASE. 
          SO THE PLAYERS ARE AT THE TABLE NOW. 
          IT'S A MATTER OF PULLING IT TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN GET IT DONE. 
          GOTCHA. 
          WELL, AND KIND OF THING THAT CAME OUT LOUD AND CLEAR IN THE MEETING THAT WE HAD, UH, WITH, UH, WILCO TOO WAS, UM, REALLY KIND OF A, AN AREA NEED AT LEAST FOR GON DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES AND, YOU KNOW, NO TWO SITES, NO TWO CITIES ARE THE SAME. 
          WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT ASSETS, LIMITATIONS AND, AND KIND OF DIFFERING OPPORTUNITIES. 
          AND SO, UH, ALSO KIND OF TRYING TO REACH OUT ON A COLLABORATIVE WAY AND BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT WHO CAN DO WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHO WANTS OR NEEDS WHAT, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, BEGIN TO WORK TOGETHER TO LEVERAGE THAT. 
          SO KIND OF THE, THE RISING TIDE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF RAISES ALL SHIPS KIND OF CONCEPT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE TALKING, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, A, A MAJOR EMPLOYER, LIKE A, LIKE A SAMSUNG HAS A REACH WITHIN, WHAT'S IT A WHAT DID HE SAY? A 40 TO 50 MILE RADIUS IN TERMS OF IMPACT, ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR SUPPLIERS. 
          AND I THINK THE TESLA, YOU KNOW, FACILITY WAS KIND OF THE ANTITHESIS TO THAT WHERE THEY ACTUALLY COORDINATED WITH SOME OF THEIR SUPPLIERS TO ACTUALLY BUILD SOME OF THEIR SUPPLY CHAINS RIGHT NEXT DOOR. 
          BUT THAT WAS KIND OF AN ANOMALY TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY TYPICALLY SEE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT SOME IDEAS ON SOME OF THAT. 
          CAN I ASK YOU REAL QUICK, HOW FAR ARE WE IN THAT RADIUS? IF IT'S 45 MILES YOU SAID? SO WHAT ARE WE RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THAT? PROBABLY RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF 40 MILES. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          RIGHT THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          35, 40 PROBABLY A, PROBABLY AN ACCURATE, UH, AMOUNT. 
          UM, I, I THINK IN THAT, THAT MEETING A HUNDRED, UH, PLUS SUPPLIERS LOOKING AROUND A DECENT AMOUNT HAVE HAVE LANDED, BUT STILL SOME IN THE, IN THE MARKETPLACE LOOKING FOR A, UH, FOR HOMES. 
          SO, UH, FOR A, FOR A SPOT TO, TO BE FOR. 
          SO FOR US, HAVING THOSE, UM, SPEC PROJECTS, UH, UNDERWAY AND ON THE GROUND IS, IS CRITICAL AND WHICH IS WHY WE'RE BULLISH ON, ON 
          [05:05:01]
FREE HILL. 
          AND, UM, HOPING, YOU KNOW, TITAN CONTINUES TO, TO GO SMOOTH SMOOTHLY THERE. 
          'CAUSE THAT IS A CRITICAL PIECE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET, GET OUR, OUR FAIR SHARE OF THOSE, THOSE SUPPLIERS HERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON REGIONALISM? YOU'RE GOOD? I'M GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WAS MAYOR, SO I THINK ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE PROPOSALS WAS, UH, WHETHER THIS IS A WORKSHOP ITEM. 
          SO IS THIS, UH, UH, AN ITEM THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO WORK UP AND WORKSHOP AT SOME POINT? I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ENOUGH TO IT TO WORKSHOP RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT, UM, THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HERRERA WOULD LIKE TO BE MORE INVOLVED AND, AND UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR REGIONAL EFFORTS. 
          WE'RE NOT REAL GREAT ABOUT BROADCASTING ALL OF THAT PUBLICLY. 
          AND SO, UM, IS THAT ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER? HER, IF WE JUST HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS OFFLINE AND INTRODUCE YOU AROUND, THAT'D BE GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND THEN AT SOME POINT, IF THERE'S ENOUGH TO FILL A WORKSHOP, WE CAN DO ONE. 
          SOUND GOOD? ALL RIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          UM, DID YOU WANNA MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN OR DO YOU NEED TO, UH, DO WE NEED TO REOPEN? UH, NUMBER FOUR. 
          UM, I THINK I WORE YOU OUT ON NUMBER FOUR, SO I THINK WE'RE OKAY. 
          WE HAVE EITHER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, FOR 
          [4. Discuss the City Council’s vision and goals for the City of Leander. (Part 2 of 2)  ]
REOPENING FOUR, IT COULD REOPEN FOUR FOR JUST ONE PASS SECOND. 
          UH, SO, UM, I, I APOLOGIZE, I MEANT TO GET THESE HANDED OUT TO Y'ALL WHEN WE WERE, UH, WRAPPING UP OUR VISION DISCUSSION. 
          SO, UH, YOU'VE GOT TWO, UH, TABLES THAT WERE HANDED OUT. 
          SO THE FIRST IS THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, RESPONSES TO THE VISION, UH, QUESTIONS. 
          AND SO, UH, WHAT WE DID IS WE WENT BACK THROUGH AND WE KIND OF ORGANIZED THOSE THOUGHTS OR THOSE COMMENTS INTO KIND OF ORGANIZED SECTIONS AND THEN STARTED LOOKING TO SEE KIND OF WHAT THE COMMON THEMES MAY BE THROUGH THE, THE COURSE OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS WE CATEGORIZE THOSE, A LOT OF THINGS WERE COMMUNICATIONS, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE, STRATEGIC PLANNING, UM, KINDA LOOKING AT OUR INTERNAL EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS, YOU KNOW, UM, SO ANYWAY, UM, SO AS WE GO BACK THROUGH AND DIGEST THE WORK PRODUCT THAT Y'ALL HAD ON YOUR VISION AND KIND OF WORKING AT VISION STATEMENT, LOOK AT THOSE CONCEPTS, KIND OF INCORPORATE THIS INPUT INTO THAT THINKING AS WELL TO REALLY KIND OF BEGIN TO DRILL DOWN AND GET MORE, MORE SPECIFIC ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND MATURE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 
          UM, THE OTHER TABLE THAT YOU HAVE IS SHOWING YOU SIDE BY SIDE WHAT THE STAFF RESPONSES TO THOSE QUESTIONS WERE, UM, AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL. 
          SO WE, OUR TEAM THAT YOU SEE HERE WITH YOU TODAY ARE ACTUALLY THE STAFF THAT FILLED OUT THE VERY SAME QUESTIONNAIRE. 
          AND SO WE, I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE STAFF PERSPECTIVES, PERSPECTIVES WERE AND THEN WHERE STAFF AND COUNCIL WERE ALIGNED. 
          AND SO DARA WAS KIND ENOUGH TO HIGHLIGHT IN YELLOW, UH, WHERE WE HAD CONSISTENT OR COMPATIBLE THOUGHTS BETWEEN THE TWO SETS OF INPUT. 
          SO WE CAN KIND OF BEGIN TO LOOK AND SEE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FROM THE STAFF SIDE WHAT'S THERE. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE STAFF SIDE, NOT SURPRISINGLY, WE KIND OF DRILL DOWN MORE INTO MORE KIND OF DETAILS AND NUTS AND BOLTS THINGS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME COMPLIMENTARY THINGS WE WANT TO KIND OF PULL OVER AND HELP TO AMPLIFY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. 
          BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONSISTENCY BETWEEN Y'ALL'S INPUT HERE THIS MORNING OR THIS AFTERNOON. 
          UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT Y'ALL PUT TOGETHER WITH THESE QUESTIONNAIRES. 
          AND AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL TAKING THE TIME TO DO THAT. 
          IT'S GONNA BE VERY HELPFUL. 
          SO THAT CONCLUDES THAT PIECE. 
          MAYOR, YOU DON'T WANNA DO ANY DISCUSSION ON IT OR WE JUST TAKE IT HOME AND REVIEW. 
          HAPPY TO HAVE Y'ALL DIVE INTO THIS IF YOU LIKE. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, IF, IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING , YOU'VE GOT US HERE TILL SIX 30, RIGHT? , WE GOT YOU TILL SIX 30 . 
          SO YOU HAD ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS OR YOUR THOUGHTS WE'RE OPEN TO IT. 
          I, I DON'T, I, I THINK, UH, IT IT'LL BE A GOOD TIME TO, TO TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND GO BACK AND PULL IT TOGETHER. 
          SO MY PLAN WILL BE TO AGAIN, PULL TOGETHER SOME VISION PIECES BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS AND INPUT TODAY, THIS INPUT. 
          UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I'LL, WE'LL FIND THE RIGHT METHOD TO BRING THIS INFORMATION BACK TO YOU. 
          AS, AS WE GET READY, I, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS FINISHED UP AND READY FOR Y'ALL'S REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION IN ADVANCE OF ANY KIND OF FUTURE WORKSHOP THAT WE, WE MAY WANNA SCHEDULE ON INTO THE FUTURE. 
          ALL RIGHT, 
          [05:10:01]
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          SO ITEM 
          [7. Discuss and provide direction to City staff regarding January 2025 Retreat. ]
NUMBER SEVEN, DISCUSS AND PROVIDE DIRECTION TO CITY STAFF REGARDING JANUARY, 2025 RETREAT. 
          ARE WE THINKING OF CHANGING THE DAY FORMAT? WELL, ARE WE, ARE WE STILL GOOD WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR STANDING JANUARY MEETING TIMEFRAME? IS THAT GOOD GUESS BIRTHDAY AGAIN? WELL, THAT'S AROUND IT, BUT, UH, NO, THAT'S FINE. 
          MY, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WITH YOUR BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE, IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY OR A BETTER WAY TO SKIN THIS CAT. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE, WOULD ALL BE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS. 
          I, I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE JANUARY WORKSHOP, UM, BECAUSE IT'LL ALLOW US TO, YOU KNOW, FINISH OUT THE BUDGET SO WE GET THAT DONE, WHICH I GUESS YOU WANT DONE IN OCTOBER ONE, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE LATE, BUT SEPTEMBER ONE . 
          UM, AND SO HE'S ALWAYS PUSHING THE, THE, THE TIMELINE UP. 
          I DON'T KNOW, IT'S WEIRD. 
          UM, BUT, AND THEN WE'LL NEED TO CLOSE OUT THE YEAR AND SO AUDIT NEEDS TO KIND OF BE WRAPPED UP AND KIND OF GET OUR END OF YEAR FINANCIALS PUT TOGETHER SO WE'LL KIND OF HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR WHAT OUR, YOU KNOW, UH, FUND BALANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD BE. 
          UM, TO ME THE PRIMARY THRUST OF THE JANUARY MEETING IS TO REALLY BEGIN TO CIRCLE BACK ON SOME OF THE KEY COMPONENTS THAT WE WORKED UP HERE TODAY. 
          WE REALLY NEED TO COME BACK ON THE CAPITAL SIDE, UM, AND KIND OF TAKE THIS DIRECTION AND, AND KIND OF BEGIN TO BUILD FORWARD IN TERMS OF OVERALL STRATEGY. 
          UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE DEVELOPED SOME OF THE BEGINNING PARTS OF SOME OF OUR OTHER MODEL PIECES, OUR FISCAL MODELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY BE A NEED TO BEGIN TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE CORE ASSUMPTIONS YOU WANT TO BEGIN TO BUILD INTO SOME OF OUR, UH, CRITICAL THINKING AND STRATEGIC THINKING PIECES. 
          SO AGAIN, TODAY IS WONDERFUL AND I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. 
          'CAUSE THIS SET, THIS SET THE FLOOR FOR US AND WE START TO BUILD MOVING FORWARD FROM THERE. 
          SO I'M SEEING THAT JANUARY WILL ALLOW US TO GET INTO SOME MORE OF THOSE REALLY KIND OF MORE AND MORE OF THOSE KIND OF WORKING DETAILS. 
          SO WE'LL PROBABLY KILL YOU WITH A LOT MORE DATA AND SPREADSHEETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WE'LL ENDEAVOR TO GET THAT TO YOU WELL IN ADVANCE SO YOU GET A CHANCE TO READ THAT AND DIGEST THAT. 
          SO I TRY NOT TO HIT YOU COLD. 
          CAN WE GO AHEAD AND SET DATES FOR THAT? YES, PLEASE. 
          THAT'D BE FANTASTIC. 
          SO THE 24TH? 24TH. 
          YEAH. 
          31ST ALREADY SET. 
          JANUARY 31. 
          CAN WE DO IT 24TH? BUT IS IT A FRIDAY, A SAT AND A SATURDAY? IT'S ONLY BEEN A FRIDAY. 
          WELL, WE HAVE DONE FRIDAY AND SATURDAY BEFORE. 
          THAT'S IN THE SUMMER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF WE JUST DO THE ONE, UM, THE 31ST IS GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          WOULD YOU WANNA DO THAT HERE OR DO YOU WANT TO GO A DIFFERENT VENUE? IS THIS GOOD? I'LL MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS AN EXTRA TUNA SANDWICH. 
          , BRING YOU SOME SPECIAL MY WIFE SOME. 
          IS ANYBODY OPPOSED TO THE 24TH INSTEAD OF THE 31ST? LIKE A WEDNESDAY? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          IT'S FRIDAY. 
          EXACTLY ONE FRIDAY PRIOR. 
          OH NO, I DIDN'T KNOW. 
          IT'S THE FRIDAY AFTER. 
          I'M NOT, I ARRANGE MY WIFE AROUND YOU GUYS, . 
          IS THAT OKAY WITH STAFF DOING IT ON A, A SHORT WORK WEEK? YEAH, I DON'T IF THAT'S ANY PROBLEM. 
          IT'S, IT'S NOT A HUGE THING. 
          WHAT  IT'S MY WIFE'S BIRTHDAY, SO I'M GONNA PROBABLY YEAH, WE'RE GONNA BE THERE. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE THERE FOR YOU. 
          DON'T WORRY, WE'RE GONNA DO IT. 
          YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT? YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE'LL MOVE TO THE 24TH, FRIDAY THE 24TH. 
          WOULD JUST LET EVERYBODY KNOW WE'VE SUSPENDED, UH, HOLIDAYS, , THAT GOES TO THE STAFF HAPPINESS, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE ON THAT, RIGHT? YES. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELL THEN WITH THAT, IT'S NUMBER EIGHT. 
          WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 4:45 PM THANK YOU EVERYONE. 
          APPRECIATE YOU. 
          HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
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