[1. Open Meeting.]
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TODAY IS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2024, AND THE TIME IS 6:00 PM AND THIS IS THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL, CITY
[2. Roll Call.]
SECRETARY CRABTREE.WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLE COUNCIL MEMBER CATHERINE BATTALION PARKER.
COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD.
MAYOR PORT TIM NICOLE THOMPSON.
PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS HERNAN.
QUORUM IS PRESENT AND THE CITY COUNCIL IS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS.
[3. Workshop to discuss the proposed changes to the Northline Development.
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I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND, AND STAFF APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND, UH, TALK WITH MY PARTNER HERE, UH, BUT CODY WITH ENDEAVOR TO, UH, ANSWER QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION, AND THEN I THINK THERE'S JUST GONNA BE A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION AS WELL.
SO I'M GONNA START, I'M GONNA WHIP THROUGH KIND OF HIGH LEVEL AND THEN, UM, PASS IT OVER TO BUCK AND THEN WE'LL BOTH BE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
SO NORTHLINE HAS BEEN COORDINATING A PUTT AMENDMENT AND RESULTING NORTHLINE DEVELOPMENT, AGREEMENT MODIFICATION THAT WOULD BE, UH, BENEFICIAL TO TOUCH UPON IN THIS WORKSHOP PRESENTATION.
UH, IT'S APPROPRIATE TO START WITH THE NORTHLINE HISTORY NORTHLINE'S 160 ACRE SITE PLAN DESIGN BY DAVID M. SCHWARTZ.
ARCHITECTS AT THE TIME OF THE CITY OF LEANER PUD APPROVAL IN 2018 INCLUDED A PHASING PLAN, WHICH INCORPORATED SIGNIFICANT INITIAL SURFACE PARKING IN MULTIPLE PHASES OVER A 20 PLUS YEAR PERIOD WHEN DENSITY IS GENERATED THROUGH PROPOSED PARKING GARAGES IN CERTAIN BLOCKS.
WE FAST FORWARD, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE SHOWN IN GREEN, REPRESENTING A MAJORITY OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED FOR THE FULL BUILD OUT OF NORTHLINE.
OVER TIME HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY OF LEANDER.
NOW NORTHLINE IS POSITIONED TO DELIVER THE REST OF THE PROJECT, THE VERTICAL, THE, THE STUFF WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR IN AN ACCELERATED TIMEFRAME.
C ARE FULLY DESIGNED AND ARE COMPLETED VERTICAL PROJECTS THUS FAR.
UH, THESE AERIAL IMAGES FROM AUGUST OF COMPLETED OR OF COMPLETED INITIAL RESIDENTIAL PHASES, NORTHLINE'S INITIAL VERTICAL PROJECTS HAVE INCLUDED ELEVATED STANDARDS OF SUPERIOR QUALITY STREET SCAPES AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY BUILDING FACADE DESIGN FOR AN ENHANCED WALKABILITY EXPERIENCE.
NORTHLINE'S DESIGN INCORPORATES PREMIER CIVIC SPACES TO INCLUDE NORTHLINE CIRCLE, TOWN SQUARE, AND SPACES AROUND EACH WATER QUALITY, WET POND, ET CETERA.
HERE'S A LIST OF EACH BLOCK'S DEVELOPMENT AND THE STATUS WITH EACH VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT PARTNER.
I'M JUST GONNA WHIP THROUGH THIS.
YOU, YOU ALL HAVE THIS IN YOUR PACKET.
THIS SHOWS THE INITIAL ENDEAVOR, RETAIL AREA, AND PLAN OVERLAID ON THE OVERALL NORTHLINE SITE PLAN.
WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GONNA TALK MORE FULLY ABOUT THIS AS WE GET INTO THE WORKSHOP.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND UPON THE ENDEAVOR RETAIL AREA BY BEING ABLE TO PHASE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY THIS RENDERING, THE, THIS SHOWS SOME RENDERINGS OF THE CALIBER OF ENDEAVORS DEVELOPMENT THAT ENDEAVOR WILL DISCUSS, UH, COMING UP NEXT.
SO THE NORTHLINE PUD AMENDMENT, UM, SUMMARY PAGE HERE.
IT INVOLVES THE REMOVAL OF THE ENDEAVOR RETAIL AREA INTO ITS OWN PUD, UH, WITH A 90% MASONRY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REQUIREMENT.
THE MAINTENANCE OF THE OVERALL NORTHLINE VISION WITH DENSITY AND WALKABILITY THROUGHOUT THE CORE OF NORTHLINE, WHICH WILL SET LEANDER APART.
NORTHLINE REMAINS THE ONLY PROJECT WITHIN THE LEANER TOD THAT MEETS THE INTENT OF THE LEANDER SMART CODE STANDARDS.
NORTHLINE'S LAND PLANNER SUPPORTS THE CONCEPT OF DESIGNING CERTAIN BUILDING FRONTAGES DIRECTLY AROUND TOWN SQUARE THAT CONTAIN ACTIVE COMMON USES IN RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, SO LONG AS THEY'RE DESIGNED WITH RETAIL CONVERTIBLE STANDARDS AND HIGH QUALITY STREET SCAPES.
NORTHLINE'S P CHANGES HAVE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE RECENT AND CURRENT COUNCIL PREFERENCE FOR COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL IN PARTICULAR OVER MULTIFAMILY, WHEREBY NORTHLINE HAS RESTRICTED MULTIFAMILY BLOCK AND BLOCKS A AND B AND THE PRECLUSION OF THE POTENTIAL FOR THE FOUR ORIGINALLY PLANNED MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS IN THE ENDEAVOR RETAIL AREA OR AND OR OPTION AREA.
SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A, A, UH, A MOVE TOWARDS MORE COMMERCIAL.
NORTHLINE IS ALSO STILL MEETING
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THE COMMERCIAL OBJECTIVES FROM 2018, AND THOSE ARE HIGHLIGHTED HERE, HIGHLIGHTED ON THE, THE, THE, UH, FOLLOWING PAGE.AND, UM, TO REWIND, THE CITY HIRED A THIRD PARTY FIRM, URBAN THREE BACK IN 2018 TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF TAX BENEFITS FROM THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
I'VE INCLUDED SOME MATERIAL HERE FROM THE URBAN THREE PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL AT THAT TIME.
THIS SHOWS THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PLAN NORTHLINE DEVELOPMENT AT THAT POINT WHERE THE PROJECTED VALUE IS 182 MILLION, CURRENTLY NORTHLINE'S WELL OVER HALF OF THAT VALUE, AND WE STILL HAVE A FEW MORE BLOCK DEVELOPMENTS FOR THIS INITIAL PHASE.
SO I'M PROPOSING TO EXPLAIN THAT WE'RE, WE'RE VERY MUCH ON TRACK.
UM, THESE ARE URBAN THREE PROJECTIONS FROM THIS, THE SECOND PHASE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE IMAGE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
ADDITIONAL BLOCKS GET FURTHER DEVELOPED, AND THEN THIS IS THE FULL BUILD OUT.
UM, URBAN THREE PRO PROJECTIONS FROM 2018 AT FULL BUILD OUT BUILD OUT WAS $733 MILLION.
UM, THAT WAS A 20 PLUS YEAR TIMEFRAME TO GET TO THAT POINT.
NORTHLINE'S CURRENT PLAN PROJECTS ARE TO REACH THIS VALUATION IN 2032, UM, PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION TO STAFF AT, AT THEIR REQUEST A NUMBER OF WEEKS AGO IF, IF EVERYTHING BUILDS OUT AS WE PLAN.
AND, AND IT'S EXPECTED TO REACH OVER A BILLION DOLLARS IN IN 2040.
SO I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL ON TRACK TO MEET THESE, THESE OBJECTIVES.
UM, SOME OF THE OTHER WAYS THAT URBAN THREE LOOKED AT THIS WAS COMPARING, UM, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND HOW THIS CHART LOOKS.
SO THIS IS A, A FULL BUILD OUT OF NORTHLINE COMPARED TO THE THEN VALUES OF GEORGETOWN ROUND ROCK.
THEY DID ANOTHER INTERESTING COMPARISON, UH, ALONG THE CAP METRO RAIL STATION.
ALONG THOSE STOPS, OBVIOUSLY DOWNTOWN AUSTIN'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, BUT THERE'S LEANDER.
SO NORTHLINE HAS THE RIGHT VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS READY TO MAKE MEANINGFUL DEVELOPMENT PROGRESS DURING THE NEXT REAL ESTATE CYCLE, WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE FINDING OURSELVES ABOUT TO GET INTO, WHICH IS EXCITING IN ORDER TO BUILD OUT NORTHLINE'S COMMERCIAL COMPONENT.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE BUCK CODY WITH ENDEAVOR.
HE'S GONNA SHARE SOME INFORMATION AND THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE SOME DIALOGUE HERE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME, UH, AND FOR EVERYBODY'S TIME AND WORK ON IT DATE AND ALL THE WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE IN THE FUTURE.
I'M WITH ENDEAVOR REAL ESTATE GROUP, UH, PRIVATELY HELD COMPANY BASED IN AUSTIN.
AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ALEX, UH, AND VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS FOR PROBABLY 18 MONTHS OR SO ON, UH, THE ENDEAVOR RETAIL FIRST PHASE, UH, OF NORTHLINE, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT.
UM, OUR VISION FOR, UH, THIS FIRST PHASE, UH, IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M GONNA CALL SOME SORT OF HYBRID BETWEEN A TRUE LIFESTYLE CENTER, UH, AND SOME OF THE TENANTS THAT YOU MIGHT FIND THERE AND MORE TRADITIONAL RETAIL.
UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE BEAUTY AND THE BEAST OF BEING AT ENDEAVOR IS THE SUCCESS THAT, UH, WE'VE HAD IN SOME OF THESE MIXED USE PROJECTS.
AND WHAT WE REMIND PEOPLE, UH, ALL THE TIME, AND I'LL USE THE DOMAIN AS AN EXAMPLE, IT WAS THE OVERNIGHT SUCCESS THAT TOOK, UH, APPROXIMATELY 20 YEARS AND WAS DONE IN FOUR OR FIVE PHASES.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT NORTHLINE IN THIS FIRST PHASE, IN THE SURFACE PHASE, UH, THE SURFACE PARKING, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE SEE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE RETAIL MOMENTUM STARTED.
THE COMMERCIAL MOMENTUM STARTED AND BUILT ON THAT.
UM, I THINK ALEX MAY HAVE TOUCHED ON THIS EARLIER, BUT IF YOU WERE TO GO TO THE DOMAIN, UH, THERE'S A CHASE BANK THAT'S SURFACE PARKED.
THERE'S A WHOLE FOODS THAT SURFACE PARKED.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T ALL HAPPEN AT ONCE.
AND WHILE WE THINK THAT OVER TIME THE CITY OF LEANDER AND THE MARKET CAN SUPPORT MORE, A MORE DENSE RETAIL ENVIRONMENT, UH, WE THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE GONNA BE IN A POSITION TO BRING SOME REALLY UNIQUE AND REALLY SPECIAL RETAILERS TO THE MARKET.
THAT'LL BE AN AMENITY BASE FOR THE REST OF NORTHLINE, UH, FOR THE CITY, UH, AND FOR ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS HERE IN LEANDER.
AND SO, UM, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A VERSION OF A SITE PLAN.
UH, THIS SITE PLAN WILL CHANGE 45 TIMES BEFORE WE PUT SOMETHING ON THE GROUND.
UM, WE'RE IN INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WITH TENANTS AND VARIOUS RETAILERS AND SERVICE PROVIDERS.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, I THINK, AN INDICATION OF WHAT WE THINK THE FIRST 16 ACRES COULD LOOK LIKE.
UH, ALEX TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT FROM A, UH, LIFESTYLE AND, AND QUALITY OF ARCHITECTURE STANDPOINT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS INDICATIVE OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO, ESPECIALLY AT THE POINT POSITION THERE ON SAN GABRIEL AND 180 3 A,
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UM, WE WANT TO CREATE, UH, A REAL POINT POSITION FOR THE PROJECT AND SOMETHING THAT KICKS IT OFF AND THAT WILL ATTRACT, UH, THE TYPE OF RETAILERS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY NOT TYPICALLY SEE IN A SUBURBAN LOCATION.UM, REAL HIGH QUALITY LANDSCAPE HARDSCAPE, UH, UNIQUE ARCHITECTURE, YOU KNOW, NOT, UM, IN THESE TWO BUILDINGS OR THREE MULTITENANT BUILDINGS IN PARTICULAR, NOT WHAT I'M GONNA CALL TRADITIONAL SHOPPING CENTER RETAIL, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT AND VERY UNIQUE.
AND I, I THINK, HONESTLY, I'M A BETTER DEVELOPER THAN PRESENTER, BUT I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAVE AS I INDICATED.
I THINK THE BEST WAY THAT, UH, WE CAN ALL GET ON THE SAME PLACE AND BE IN THE SAME POSITION IS UNDERSTAND, UH, YOU KNOW, ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND TRY TO BE A SERVICE AND, AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO DO.
SO, AGAIN, VERY MUCH APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME AND, UH, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE GETS THEIR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OUT SO THAT WE CAN GET OVER THE HUMP HERE.
COUNCIL, ANYTHING SO FAR? I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE THE PART WHERE WE'RE JUST PROBABLY ALL BRINGING UP STUFF THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT AS A GROUP AS WELL TOO.
SO, UM, I THINK THE REASON THAT WE HAVE ONE THING ON THE AGENDA, LIKE GETTING SOME THINGS GOING AND GETTING, MAKING SURE THE COMMERCIAL WAS COMING UP ON THE FRONTAGE WAS ONE THING.
AND I THINK EVEN IN PRIOR DISCUSSIONS, EVEN IN, UH, WITH PRIOR STAFF MEMBERS, WE HAD THOUGHT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE OVER THERE TOO.
I THINK WHERE COUNCIL STARTED SAYING, WAIT A MINUTE FOR ONE SECOND, IS WHEN THERE WAS ENOUGH CHANGE THAT WAS GONNA BE OVER SPECIFICALLY AROUND MAYBE THE TOWN SQUARE AREA AND ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE TOWN SQUARE AREA, UH, IN PARTICULAR, UH, POTENTIALLY NOT HAVING THE SAME KIND OF FEEL THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE, UM, OUT OF THE INITIAL PROJECT AND WORRIED THAT WE WERE GONNA JUST MAYBE HAVE A POTENTIALLY A BUNCH OF APARTMENTS OR SOMETHING OVER ON THAT SIDE.
UM, AND THE WHOLE IDEA OF THAT CENTRAL GATHERING PLACE THAT THE CITY WAS ALSO INVESTING IN, THAT MAYBE WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO STILL, UM, USE THAT SPACE TOGETHER, UH, IN THE, IN THE SAME CAPACITY.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAD COME UP.
YOU MEAN IT, I THINK, I THINK THAT WAS, UH, SPOT ON.
I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THE, THE OUT PARCELS ARE GREAT.
YOU'VE COME BEFORE US, YOU KNOW, BEFORE, AND, UM, AND WE LOVE THE IDEA OF OF GETTING SOMETHING GOING ON THE FRONTAGE, SOMETHING THAT CAN ATTRACT PEOPLE IN.
UM, I THINK IT'S JUST THE REST OF THE, THE OPTION AREA THAT'S SORT OF IN QUESTION, AND I THINK THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THINGS TRANSITION THROUGH THE PROJECT.
SO I THINK THAT, UH, A I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, A VERY FAIR QUESTION.
UM, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE, THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN FOR ENDEAVOR OR FOR NORTHLINE OR FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER IS TO DELIVER A PROJECT THAT THE MARKET DOESN'T SUPPORT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT ENDEAVOR, UH, I THINK IF THERE'S ONE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IS REALLY PUTTING A PROJECT ON THE GROUND THAT MEETS THE MARKET.
AND IN OUR EXPERIENCE IN AUSTIN, IF YOU LOOK AT, IN TODAY'S RETAIL ENVIRONMENT, WHAT I'M GONNA CALL GROUND FLOOR VMU RETAIL, IT, IT STRUGGLES VMU.
WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOUR SURFACE OR, UH, GARAGE PARKED, UH, YOU KNOW, REAL URBAN RETAIL, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S WORKED AT THE DOMAIN, UH, AND IT'S WORKED IN SELECT DOWNTOWN LOCATIONS.
UM, THERE'S NO QUESTION AS AUSTIN AND LEANDER CONTINUE TO MATURE, THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL, I SHOULDN'T SAY, THERE'S NO QUESTION.
WE BELIEVE THAT AS AUSTIN AND LEANDER AND THESE OTHER SUB-MARKETS CONTINUE TO MATURE, AND THERE CONTINUES TO BE DENSITY, THAT THAT TYPE OF RETAIL WILL PERFORM BETTER.
UM, BUT TODAY THERE ARE DIFFICULTIES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT TYPE OF RETAIL.
UH, HILL COUNTRY GALLERY IS A GREAT EXAMPLE WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF RETAIL THERE BY ABOUT TWO THIRDS.
UM, THE TRIANGLE, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN HAS HAD TREMENDOUS, OR NOT DOWNTOWN, BUT IN UPTOWN AUSTIN, TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TURNOVER AND DIFFICULTIES.
AND SO FOR US, WHAT WE DON'T WANNA DO, AND WHAT I THINK, UH, THE PEOPLE IN LEANDER WOULD NOT WANNA SEE IS PUT A, A PROJECT ON THE GROUND THAT IS UNSUCCESSFUL.
WHAT WE DO WANT TO DO IN THESE LOCATIONS IS BE VERY STRATEGIC ABOUT RETAIL AND BUILD IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT AS THE MARKET MATURES, WE CAN CONVERT IT TO RETAIL.
AND SO WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN AND, UH, AND WE THINK THAT THERE WILL BE WAYS TO SPLASH RETAIL IN AND TO BUILD THE HARDSCAPE AND THE LANDSCAPE AND TO DO THINGS THAT WE'RE ALL VERY PROUD OF.
BUT WE THINK THAT IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT, IF YOU GO OVERLOAD ANY SORT OF INTERIOR LOCATION WITH RETAIL, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, EMPTY STOREFRONTS OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TENANTS THAT ARE NOT, UH, THE TYPE OF TENANTS THAT YOU WOULD FIND IN A TRUE
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CLASS A PROJECT.CAN YOU, UH, GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UH, A WAY THAT SOMETHING WOULD GET BUILT OUT THAT COULD EASILY BE CONVERTED IN THE FUTURE, 10 YEARS, FIVE YEARS, 15 YEARS FROM NOW, UH, INTO SOME TYPE OF COMMERCIAL USE? YEAH, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE BUILDING UNDER A PODIUM, UM, AND YOU'RE USING THAT AREA TODAY FOR, YOU KNOW, A COMMON AREA, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE TODAY, IT MIGHT BE THE, UH, THE GYM FOR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND OR, OR AN APARTMENT BUILDING A, YOU KNOW, A DENSE APARTMENT BUILDING.
AND AS THE RETAIL LANDSCAPE CHANGES AND AS THE MARKET MATURES, YOU GO CONVERT THAT INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
AND SO YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BUILDING THESE BUILDINGS, UH, THAT, THAT'S 50 YEAR CONSTRUCTION, UH, MAYBE A HUNDRED YEAR CONSTRUCTION DEPENDING ON THE DENSITY AND THE, THE, THE TYPE OF MATERIALS.
AND SO WE WOULD BE BUILDING THESE IN SUCH A WAY THAT, UH, A YOU KNOW, FROM FROM THE INITIAL, UH, OPENING OR OR INITIAL CONSTRUCTION, THERE WOULD BE SOME RETAIL.
BUT IF WE GO, UH, IF WE GO OVERLOAD AN INTERIOR PARK WITH RETAIL, THIS PROJECT WILL FAIL.
UM, AND, AND I DON'T, UH, AND, AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CITY OF LEANDER.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALL GET IN A TOUR AND DRIVE AROUND ON A BUS AND, UH, WE CANNOT FIND SUCCESSFUL RETAIL LIKE THAT IN THE AUSTIN MSA.
AND SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT NORTHLINE SPECIFIC, IT'S NOT LEANDER SPECIFIC.
UM, IT'S THE RETAIL ENVIRONMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ALL LIVE IN.
AND SO, UH, WE BELIEVE THAT WITH TIME THAT WILL COME, UM, BUT IT'S NOT IN OUR INTEREST OR Y'ALL'S INTEREST TO PUT A PROJECT ON THE GROUND THAT THAT'S UNSUCCESSFUL.
CAN YOU POINT US TO AN EXAMPLE WHERE THAT'S BEEN DONE? WHERE IT'S, WHERE, WHERE IT'S BEEN AMENITY BASED AND THEN YOU WENT AND TRANSLATED IT LATER TO COMMERCIAL? NO, UH, I CAN'T BECAUSE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL IS REALLY SO NEW.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, I MEAN, IN AUSTIN AT LEAST YOU DIDN'T HAVE VERTICAL MIXED USE RETAIL.
AND WHEN I SAY AUSTIN, I'M JUST SAYING AUSTIN, MSA, UH, YOU DIDN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, REALLY VERTICAL MIXED USE RETAIL UNTIL PROBABLY COMING OUTTA GFC, YOU KNOW, 2000 10, 11, 12, UM, GENERALLY SPEAKING.
AND SO THERE HA THERE HASN'T YET BEEN, YOU KNOW, AT, AT THE, IN WHAT I'M GONNA CALL THAT PHASE OF VERTICAL MIXED USE CONSTRUCTION.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DRIVE AROUND PROJECTS ALL OVER THE MSA WHERE YOU'VE GOT RETAIL, A GROUND FLOOR RETAIL THAT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, A TRUE RETAIL LOCATION, AND YOU'VE GOT EMPTY STOREFRONTS OR YOU'VE GOT WHAT I'M GONNA CALL CLASS B OR C TENANTS.
UM, AS THE MARKET HAS PROVEN THAT, THAT THE DIFFICULTIES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, THE SOPHISTICATED DEVELOPERS ARE FIGURING OUT WAYS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF, UH, THE VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES AND ALSO MEET WHAT WE THINK WILL BE DEMAND AT A LATER DATE.
UM, BUT IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET BECAUSE THE, THE VERTICAL MIXED USE RETAIL, IT REALLY HAS ONLY BEEN IN AUSTIN FOR, YOU KNOW, 15 YEARS OR LESS.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT, IT'S, I I CAN DRIVE YOU AROUND.
I, I DON'T WANT TO, I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO, BUT I CAN POINT IN A NUMBER OF PROJECTS WHERE, UH, THE RETAIL IS A REAL DRAG ON, UH, NOT THE INVESTMENT, BUT A REAL DRAG ON JUST THE EXPERIENCE, THE CONSUMER AND, AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE TRIANGLE.
I THINK SOME, YOU KNOW, RELEVANT EXAMPLE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES.
GROUND FLOOR RETAIL IS VERY, VERY CHALLENGING, AND RETAIL IN GENERAL IS VERY, VERY CHALLENGING.
UM, BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, RETAIL, UNLIKE OFFICE OR MULTIFAMILY OR A LOT OF OTHER USES, THERE'S JUST SO MANY, SO MANY BOXES THAT HAVE TO BE CHECKED.
AND, UH, WHILE WE FULLY UNDERSTAND THE CITY'S VISION AND ATTEND TO, ADHERE TO THAT, TO THE BEST THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THAT IT, IT'S, WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A PROJECT THAT MEETS THE MARKET AND THEN IT'S SUCCESSFUL.
SO WHAT IS THE VISION FOR THE OPTIONS AREA? WHAT WOULD MEET THE MARKET? UH, WELL, I, I THINK TODAY WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT EVEN IN THE MARKET, UH, VISITING WITH, YOU KNOW, USERS FOR THE OPTION AREA.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT, UH, ENDEAVOR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN MEETINGS LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME, AND WE ARE ALWAYS, UH, SO THOUGHTFUL AND SO PROUD OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE PUT ON THE GROUND BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO POINT TO WHATEVER WE DID LAST FOR WHATEVER WE NEED NEXT.
AND SO, WHILE I CAN'T SIT HERE AND TELL YOU WHO IT'S GOING TO BE, OR EXACTLY HOW IT'S GOING TO LAY OUT, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EVEN IN THAT MARKET, I CAN TELL YOU THAT JUST LIKE WE HAVE SALTILLO ON THE BOARD,
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OR BELLAIRE OR WHATEVER WE DID LAST, WE INTEND TO HAVE NORTHLINE ON THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE YEARS FROM NOW.AND WITHOUT BEING IN THE MARKET, I CAN'T SAY EXACTLY WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE OR WHO IT'S GOING TO BE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UH, IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT, THAT WE'LL BE VERY PROUD OF, AND I THINK THE CITY OF LEANO WILL BE VERY PROUD OF, AND THAT WE WILL WORK FOR THE REST OF ALEX'S PROJECT.
SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE COUNCIL OR WHATEVER, BUT GENERALLY WE'RE ON FOR THE EXTERIOR PART THAT WE'RE ALREADY GONNA TALK ABOUT LATER TONIGHT.
AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS OPTION THAT YOU WANNA PUT OUT ON THIS, AND YOU WANT US TO GO AND MAKE CHANGES TO THE PLAN IN ORDER TO, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND SO WE'RE, BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR ON WHAT'S GONNA GO THERE, AND IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT THE TIMING OF IT'S GONNA BE AND ALL THAT.
I JUST KIND OF WONDER WHY, WHY TODAY VERSUS A YEAR FROM NOW, AFTER WE HAVE BROKEN GROUND ON THE OTHER STUFF AND WE'RE BUILDING IT AND WE SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE WANT TO, WE REALLY WANT TO GO WITH THIS STUFF, AND WE SEE WHAT YOUR VISION IS.
AND YOU'VE GOTTEN SOME TRACTION IN THE, IN THE AREA.
I'M, I'M JUST WONDERING WHY NOW? YEAH, I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS BECAUSE, UH, WHAT HAPPENS FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF RETAIL IS THE RETAIL DECISION MAKER.
HE OR SHE BEST CASE LIVES IN DALLAS, MAYBE LIVES IN LA OR BOSTON OR NEW YORK OR WHEREVER ELSE.
AND SO, UH, WHEN THEY'RE MAKING DECISIONS ON NEW STORE LOCATIONS, UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY HOW CAN WE AS A RETAIL DEVELOPER PROVIDE A PATH OF LEASE RESISTANCE? AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL HAVE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PICK A GREAT RESTAURANT GROUP.
THEY, THEY GET PRESENTED 200 NORTH LINES AND THEY'RE GONNA DO FOUR OF 'EM.
AND SO HOW DO WE LAND THAT RESTAURANT GROUP IN NORTHLINE? YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT JUST LOOKING IN LEANDER OR AUSTIN OR TEXAS.
I MEAN, THEY'RE GETTING SITES IN SCOTTSDALE AND SAN DIEGO AND BOSTON AND NEW YORK AND MIAMI AND ALL THESE PLACES.
AND THEY'VE SAID, WE'RE DOING SIX STORES NEXT YEAR.
AND FOR US, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THAT TYPE OF TENANT.
WE WANT ONE OF THOSE SIX STORES TO BE AT NORTHLINE.
AND SO RETAIL IS ALL ABOUT MOMENTUM, AND IT'S ALL ABOUT BUILDING ON THAT MOMENTUM.
AND SO FOR US, IF WE CAN GET THE MOMENTUM GOING, WHICH WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN, TO GET OURSELVES IN A POSITION TO WHERE WE HAVE THAT MOMENTUM AND WE HAVE THINGS GOING, AND THEN TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND RESTART THAT MOMENTUM IS, UH, WE FEEL LIKE WE WOULD BE TAKING AN UNNECESSARY RISK.
I UNDER I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I MEAN, I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF DEVELOPED THIS THING WITH THIS KIND OF THE CITY CENTER CONCEPT, LIKE THEY SAID, AND, AND BASICALLY WE'RE TALK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVAPORATING, THAT WE'RE CHANGING WHAT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE VISION OF NORLAND IS, I KNOW IT'S NOT COMPLETELY CHANGED AND EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE'RE GONNA CREEP IN TO WHAT THE CORE WAS OF IT.
AND ONCE WE KIND OF DO THAT, IT'S KIND OF LIKE NOW IT'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT.
UM, AND SO I THAT'S, THAT'S THE CONCERN.
AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANTED YOU TO DO THE WORKSHOPS SO WE COULD UNDERSTAND THAT AND MAYBE ADDRESS THAT.
'CAUSE DOES, DOES, DO WE HAVE TO, I GUESS, AE TO ALL THE ITEMS HERE? OR IS EVERYTHING NECESSARY? OR IS IT MORE OF LIKE, UH, SOMETHING WE CAN WORK ON DOWN THE ROAD WITH THE VISION OF YEAH, MAYBE WE WANNA EXTEND THAT STUFF IN THERE, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I, I KNOW THAT'S, NO, NO.
I, I THINK, I MEAN, I, I, UH, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN AND I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVEN'T GIVEN UP ON THAT VISION.
WE HAVEN'T GIVEN UP ON A TOWN SQUARE.
WE HAVEN'T GIVEN UP ON ENERGY SURROUNDING A PARK.
UM, THERE'S NOTHING WE WOULD LIKE MORE THAN TO DELIVER ALL THOSE THINGS.
UM, AND SO, AND, AND YOU KNOW, THAT WILL, UH, THAT WILL BE OUR FOCUS, BUT IT WILL BE OUR FOCUS IN A WAY THAT MEETS THE MARKET.
AND, AND BECAUSE I'M NOT IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS, I'M IN THE EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT BUSINESS, UH, I, I, I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW, I MEAN, OUR, OUR REPUTATION IS WHAT'S PUT US IN THIS POSITION.
I MEAN, WE TAKE THAT VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY.
SO I'M NOT GONNA GET UP HERE AND TELL EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, EX MAYBE EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR.
BUT I, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE BELIEVE IN THAT.
WE JUST BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL BE PHASED OVER TIME.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE A SCENARIO WHERE IT STARTS OFF WITH ONE OR TWO USERS, AND OVER TIME IT, YOU KNOW, IT GAINS MOMENTUM GAINS, ENERGY GAINS, TRACTION AND, AND MATURES AS THE MARKET MATURES AND AS THE PROJECT MATURES AND CHANGES.
AND THAT'S REALLY NO DIFFERENT, UH, THAN I THINK WHAT ANYBODY WOULD SEE IN ANY OTHER LARGE SCALE MULTI-PHASE PROJECT LIKE THIS.
IT'S, IT'S NOT UNIQUE TO, AGAIN, IT'S NOT UNIQUE TO LEANDER OR NOT UNIQUE TO NORTHLINE, UH, YOU KNOW, PROJECT THAT, YOU KNOW, A BILLION DOLLAR
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PROJECT.I MEAN, YOU, YOU DON'T JUST, IT, IT, IT TAKES TIME AND IT'S GOTTA BUILD MOMENTUM.
AND, AND WE WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT POTENTIALLY BEING, YOU KNOW, REALLY INSTRUMENTAL PART OF THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON, MY QUESTION WAS JUST GONNA BE AROUND THAT COMMUNITY FOCUS.
SO NORTHLINE CAME TO BE IN 20 18, 3 YEARS BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL.
AND HOW IT WAS BROUGHT TO ME AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE TALKED TO ME ABOUT IT IS THAT IT WAS REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE THE CONNECTIVE TISSUE FOR THE COMMUNITY, SUPPOSED TO BE A PLACE WHERE WE COULD ALL COME TOGETHER.
YES, THERE WOULD BE RETAIL, THERE WOULD BE HOUSING OPTIONS, BUT THERE WOULD BE A CENTERED PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COULD COME TOGETHER AND BE THE CENTER OF TOWN.
AND SO I, I GUESS IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SEE WHERE THAT HAPPENS, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S NOT A REAL CLEAR PLAN FOR IT NOW.
AND I GET THAT YOU CAN'T SAY EXACTLY WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY, BUT THAT, THAT'S A REAL CONCERN, UM, FOR ME, THAT IT'S REALLY NOT THE SAME PROJECT.
AND THEN HOW DO YOU PLAN TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND FOCUS, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY WHAT IT IS, IS THERE ANOTHER COMMUNITY THAT YOU'VE DONE THIS FOR THAT YOU CAME BACK LATER, OR THAT YOU JUST MADE A COMMUNITY? AND, AND SO, UH, ALL GOOD QUESTIONS.
I THINK, UM, I THINK THE WAY THAT I WOULD ANSWER THAT IS NORTHLINE, WE CAN CHOOSE TO FOCUS ON A COMMUNITY CENTER BEING A SMALL PORTION OF NORTHLINE SURROUNDING A PARK, AND, UH, OR, OR WE COULD ALSO PERHAPS CHOOSE TO FOCUS ON NORTHLINE IN ITS ENTIRETY, BEING THAT CENTER.
AND I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO DELIVER THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT DOING, UH, THERE WILL BE A NUMBER OF SPACES USES TENANTS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE ENTIRE TOWN TO COME TOGETHER.
AND, AND I THINK THAT, UH, THAT COULD BE IN 24 MONTHS OR LESS.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE IDEA THAT EVERYONE IS CONGREGATING AROUND ONE PARK IN 24 MONTHS, UM, I THINK THAT WILL TAKE TIME AND IT'LL TAKE TIME TO BUILD.
BUT AS FAR AS THE PLACE THAT YOUR FAMILIES GO AFTER BASEBALL GAMES OR BEFORE CONCERTS, OR ON TUESDAYS FOR LUNCH OR FOR WORK MEETINGS OR WHATEVER IT IS, UH, I THINK THAT NORTHLINE, UH, THIS, THIS FIRST SECTION OF NORTHLINE, WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A PLACE IN LEANDER THAT DOESN'T EXIST TODAY.
AND I, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND CREATE A, A COMMUNITY PLACE WHERE EVERYBODY CAN GO.
UM, AND, AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WILL IT BE SURROUNDING THAT PARK IN 24 MONTHS? NO, MA'AM.
I, I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE, I THINK WE CAN START TO CHIP AWAY AT THAT.
BUT AS FAR AS CREATING SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE THAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THAT, WHERE EVERYBODY'S EXCITED ABOUT THAT COMMUNITY PLACE, UM, I'M, I'M CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BRING TENANTS TO LEANDER BRING, UH, PLACES TO GATHER IN LEANDER THAT, THAT DON'T EXIST, THAT THE COMMUNITY'S VERY, VERY EXCITED ABOUT.
CAN YOU OR MAYBE ALEX, TALK ABOUT HOW WALKABILITY CHANGES AT ALL FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED VERSUS WHAT THE PLAN IS NOW? YEAH.
I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO, TO MAYBE CHANGE TO THIS SLIDE.
'CAUSE I THINK THIS SLIDE, I THINK THERE'S TWO SLIDES HERE THAT ADDRESS THE TWO CONCERNS.
THE, THIS SLIDE HERE SHOWS THE, THE OPTION AREA AND HOW ENDEAVOR ANTICIPATES BUILDING UPON THE FIRST RETAIL AND MERGING IT INTO WHAT IS THE, THE CORE AREA.
AND THEN THIS IS, THIS IS THE SLIDE THAT, THAT TALKS ABOUT THE CORE AREA AND THE STANDARDS, UM, AS TO WHAT BLOCK FRONTAGE IS REQUIRED IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL VERSUS COMMON AREA VERSUS JUST SIMPLY RETAIL CONVERTIBLE FOR A FUTURE RETAIL USE.
AND, AND I THINK THAT'S THE CORE OF IT.
I MEAN, I, I ENVISION FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT BUILDINGS AROUND ALL OF TOWN SQUARE.
UM, I KNOW THAT THE CITY AND I, UH, STAFF AND I ARE WORKING ON A POTENTIAL HOTEL ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN SQUARE IN WHAT'S CALLED BLOCK J UM, ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN SQUARE, WHICH IS SHOWN AS BLOCK F.
WE ENVISION A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT WITH USES ON THE GROUND FLOOR THAT INCLUDE RETAIL DAY ONE, COMMON AREA SPACES, WHICH ARE THESE OTHER KIND OF ACTIVE USES WITHIN THE MULTIFAMILY LOBBY AREAS, ET CETERA, THAT ARE, UH, INTERFACING WITH THE, THE STREETSCAPE.
UM, AND SO IN TERMS OF WALKABILITY, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT AREA SHOULD BE MORE WALKABLE THAN WHAT YOU SEE CURRENTLY AT NORTHLINE IN, IN, IN
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THE BLOCKS THAT ALREADY HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED, WHICH ARE VERY WALKABLE.UM, YOU, WE GOTTA ALSO TALK ABOUT THE, THE STREETSCAPE AND THE WAY THAT THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE SIDEWALKS AND THE LANDSCAPE ARE DESIGNED AND, AND, AND FIT TOGETHER.
EVERYTHING AROUND THAT SQUARE IS INTENDED TO BE WALKABLE AND IS INTENDED TO BE INVITING, IS INTENDED TO BE USABLE.
UM, I THINK THE, THE QUESTION HERE IS HOW MUCH OF A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT DOES THE CITY WANNA MANDATE AS TO WHAT THOSE BASICALLY BUILDING FRONTAGE USES NEED TO BE? AND AS I MENTIONED, OUR, OUR LAND PLANNERS THINK AS LONG AS IT'S RETAIL CONVERTIBLE, YOU CAN HAVE SOME OF THAT AREA AS RESIDENTIAL, AS LONG AS IT'S CONVERTIBLE TO RETAIL AT A LATER TIME.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS PROPOSED REQUIREMENT SHOWS.
IT SHOWS VARIOUS LEVELS OF REQUIREMENTS AROUND THAT SQUARE.
HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERED THE QUESTION.
IF IT, IF IT WAS, IF IT WAS RESIDENTIAL USES, UM, WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY? LIKE, LET'S, IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE SELLING OFF AND SOMEBODY WOULD BE BUILDING THEIR OWN RESIDENTIAL PROP? THAT'S SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS HOW EASY WOULD THAT ACTUALLY BE IF SOMEBODY, IF THEY WERE GONNA CONVERT IT LATER, IS IT AS EASY AS, UH, UM, SOMEBODY WHO HAS A PORTFOLIO AND THIS IS OUR STUFF AND WE'RE, IT MAKES MORE SENSE FOR US FINANCIALLY AND FOR THE CITY, SO WE'RE GONNA CONVERT IT TO COMMERCIAL LATER ON, OR IS IT INDIVIDUALLY OWNED BY SOMEBODY ELSE? AND YOU WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO BUY THE WHOLE THING AND THEN CHANGE IT OR USE THE CITY FOR NO, THE, THE, WHAT WOULD BE TYPICAL IS, UH, THE OWNER OF THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, UH, HE OR SHE OR THEY WOULD OWN THE PROJECT IN ITS ENTIRETY.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF WE HAD OUR WAY AS DEVELOPERS TODAY OF MULTIFAMILY, WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE RETAIL.
I MEAN, THE, THE PROJECT FROM STRICTLY A A MONETARY OR INVESTMENT RETURN STANDPOINT, THEY UNDERWRITE BETTER WITH RETAIL.
AND SO, UH, AS AN OWNER ENDEAVOR OR ANYBODY ELSE WOULD BE INCENTIVIZED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SUCCESSFUL RETAIL IN THE GROUND FLOOR OF THEIR PROJECT AS SOON AS THE MARKET, UH, WOULD SUPPORT IT.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF BUILDING RETAIL IN THE GROUND FLOOR AND HAVING IT, YOU KNOW, SUFFER, WHICH IS TO DATE WHAT'S BEEN FAIRLY COMMONPLACE, AT LEAST IN, IN OUR MARKET.
SO BASICALLY, AS LONG AS IT WAS LIKE A RENTAL SITUATION RATHER THAN AN OWNERSHIP SITUATION ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR.
AND, AND WHAT THE PLANS WOULD CALL FOR TODAY IN, IN THOSE AREAS IS, IS FOR IT MULTIFAMILY, BUT E EVEN IF THAT WERE TO CHANGE, AND IT, AND IT BECAME, YOU KNOW, CONDO MULTIFAMILY, UH, THE, THE, THE OWNER OF WHAT I'M GONNA CALL THE GROUND FLOOR, UH, HE OR SHE OR THEY TYPICALLY WOULD OWN ALL OF THE GROUND FLOOR AND GOING INTO, UH, THERE, THERE WOULD BE CONDO DOCUMENTS TO WHERE ALL THAT COULD BE DONE.
I MEAN, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S THE EASY PART I WOULD SAY IS, IS THE CONVERSION FROM A, MAKING IT HAPPEN.
I MEAN, THERE, THERE ARE WAYS TO WIRE AROUND THAT, BUT I THINK THEY WOULD BE UNNECESSARY BECAUSE WHAT WOULD BE TYPICAL IS THE MULTIFAMILY OWNER, ASSUMING IT'S FOR AT MULTIFAMILY, WOULD OWN THE PROJECT IN ITS ENTIRETY.
AND WHEN THE MARKET WOULD SUPPORT A CONVERSION TO RETAIL, THEY WOULD BE VERY EXCITED TO MAKE THAT CONVERSION BECAUSE THAT WOULD ENHANCE THEIR RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT TIME FOR ONE MORE.
SO IF I COULD ASK LIKE A, IT'S, IT'S A VERY, IT'S VERY DIRECT, BUT HOPEFULLY VERY FRIENDLY.
MM-HMM,
UM, DOES THIS PROJECT MAKE SENSE FOR ENDEAVOR'S INVOLVEMENT IF THE OPTION AREA IS NOT PART OF THE CONSIDERATION? YOU MENTIONED EARLIER IT WAS THAT WE'D BE TAKING ON UNNECESSARY RISKS, RIGHT? IS WELL, YEAH.
I MEAN, WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER WAS JUST THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD ON THE RETAIL MOMENTUM, RIGHT? I THINK THAT WHAT, WHAT, UH, I'LL USE AGAIN, THE DOMAIN AS AN EXAMPLE.
THE TENANTS THAT ARE IN THE DOMAIN TODAY, THE QUALITY AND CALIBER OF THAT TENANT MM-HMM.
I MEAN, IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT EVEN REALLY COMPARABLE IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT A DOMAIN SITE PLAN FROM, YOU KNOW, 2010, 2011, 2012, AND YOU LOOK AT A DOMAIN SITE PLAN TODAY MM-HMM.
AND SO, AND EVERY YEAR IT'S GOTTEN BETTER AND BETTER.
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FOCUS AND OUR BELIEF IS THAT, UH, IN OUR EXPERIENCE IS THAT ONCE WE HAVE THIS GOOD MOMENTUM AND GET THIS PROJECT STARTED, WE'LL BE IN A POSITION TO CONTINUE WITH RETAIL AND BUILD ON THAT MOMENTUM.AND, AND THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S, WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE TYPICALLY INVOLVED IN PROJECTS OF SCALE.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT, IT'S, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY DONE SMALLER DEALS.
WE DID THE, YOU KNOW, SOUTHBROOK DEAL JUST UP THE ROAD.
BUT AS, AS A GENERAL RULE OF THUMB, WHAT EXCITES US ABOUT NORTHLINE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE A PROJECT OF SCALE, NOT ONLY INCLUDING RETAIL, BUT INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY AND, YOU KNOW, OTHER PRODUCT TYPES THAT WE PRESUMABLY WILL BE INVOLVED WITH.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, IT DOES.
WHILE WE'RE ALL HERE, I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO HEAR THAT CLEARLY THOUGH TOO, BECAUSE THERE IS, THERE IS THE, AT WHAT'S IT WORTH IT TO SOMEBODY IF WE'RE JUST GONNA GET DOWN TO LIKE LAYMAN'S TERMS, LIKE, IS, IS THIS, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? ARE WE DOING A SMALL STRIP CENTER, UH, OR NOT, NOT, NOT A SMALL STRIP CENTER BY ANY MEANS, BUT ARE WE DOING SOME, SOME NICE, UH, COMMERCIAL WITH A POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY MIGHT, WE MIGHT DO SOMETHING LATER ON? OR ARE WE AGREEING TO PARTNER UP ON THIS PROJECT? I'M SPEAKING FOR YOU.
UM, AND IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA GO SHOW THIS GREAT PROJECT AND WE HAVE THIS OPTION TO DO THE SECOND ONE.
AND THE ONLY REASON WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THE FIRST PART IS BECAUSE THERE IS AN OPTION THERE.
OUR, OUR INTENTION, I MEAN, CANDIDLY, OUR, OUR INVOLVEMENT STARTED REALLY ON, ON THE DENSITY SIDE OF THE PROJECT.
AND SO OUR, OUR INTENTION HAS BEEN AND CONTINUES TO BE, TO BE INVOLVED IN NORTHLINE IN A, IN A MAJOR WAY, NOT NOT TO DO A 16 ACRE RETAIL PROJECT.
AND, AND THAT'S WHY, EXCUSE ME, AND THAT'S WHY I STRATEGICALLY BROUGHT ENDEAVOR IN BECAUSE OF THEIR VAST EXPERIENCE ON, ON THAT LARGE SCALE MIXED USE SCALE.
SO DO YOU, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A, YOU NEGOTI OR YOU'RE TALKING TO A HO PUTTING A HOTEL ON BLOCK J, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
AND THEN BLOCK F WAS GONNA BE A, WHAT? BLOCK F WOULD BE A, A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT THAT WOULD HAVE AS, AS SHOWN ON THIS REQUIREMENT WOULD HAVE A, A, A PORTION OF DAY ONE RETAIL REQUIRED.
AND SO, SO THEN ON, UM, ON JAY, YOU WOULD HAVE IT FA YOU'D HAVE THE HOTEL FACING THE, THE CENTER, THE CITY CENTER PART, THE, THAT, THE, THE, THE PARK AREA IS LIKELY, OR WOULD IT FACE BACK TOWARD 180 3? MY MY EXPECTATION, OBVIOUSLY, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR WHOEVER WE BRING IN AS THE DEVELOPER, BUT MY EXPECTATION IS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SOME GROUND FLOOR RESTAURANT EXPOSURE THAT WOULD BE RIGHT ON THE SQUARE.
UM, WHERE THEY WOULD PUT THE HOTEL ENTRANCE.
IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT ON THE NORTH, JUST FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE ON MAIN STREET TO HAVE THAT LOBBY QUARTER SORT OF ON THAT CORNER, BUT REALLY KIND OF A BUTTRESS ON, ON THE NORTHLINE STREET.
AND THEN, UM, AND BASICALLY IF, IF THAT BUILDING IS A, IS A, IS A HOTEL, THE ENTIRE FACADE IS COMMERCIAL, SO IT, IT MEETS THAT ENTIRE, YOU KNOW, NEED OF, OF COMMERCIAL.
UM, AND THAT, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY INTENT.
AND WE WE'RE HOPING WE GET THERE WITH, WITH OUR COORDINATION WITH, WITH STAFF.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH FOR ALL OF THIS.
UM, ON THIS MAP RIGHT HERE, ALL OF THOSE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS, WHICH OF THOSE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS ARE NOT CHANGED FROM WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED? I'LL ANSWER THAT.
THE, THE, UH, THE, THE TWO SIDES OF MAIN STREET AT THE VERY NORTH.
SO BLOCK B AND BLOCK B AND C AND C GETS REMOVED, BUT IT'S GONNA BE ALL RETAIL ANYWAY.
SO ONE WOULD SAY THAT'S STILL A RETAIL BLOCK.
SO WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THEN IS WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE CHANGES WHEN THE ONLY ONE THAT'S IN THE OPTION AREA IS BLOCK J, THE PURPLE ONE.
IT'S BECAUSE, UM, APOLOGIES, BUCK, I'M GONNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
IT'S BECAUSE, UH, THE ENDEAVOR MULTIFAMILY TEAM IS PLANNING ON DEVELOPING BLOCKS N AND O, WHICH ARE THE TWO BLOCKS AT THE SOUTHERN END OF THE TOWN SQUARE, AND ALSO THE BLOCK F WHICH IS ON THE WESTERN END.
AND THEIR MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ARE THE ONES THAT BUCK ALLUDED TO OF NOT WANTING TO BUILD A PROJECT THAT
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HAS A REQUIREMENT OF CERTAIN STOREFRONT DEMANDS THAT ARE NOT GONNA MEET THE MARKET.I MEAN, THE, THE, UH, FROM A COMMUNITY STREET SCAPE AND ENJOYABILITY, IS THAT A WORD STANDPOINT? UH, THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN IS VACANCY, STOREFRONT, VACANCY.
AND ULTIMATELY WHAT I THINK, UH, WE'VE SEEN HAPPEN IN OTHER PROJECTS IS IN ORDER TO FILL THAT VACANCY, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TENANTS THAT ARE NOT TO THE STANDARD THAT ENDEAVOR TYPICALLY OPERATES WITH OR THAT WE WOULD WANNA SEE AT THIS PROJECT.
AND SO, UH, WE'RE VERY FOCUSED ON A SUCCESSFUL, UH, IN STREETSCAPE WALKABILITY STANDPOINT AND, AND DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A PLACE TO WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT, THAT IS NOT TO WHAT IS OUR STANDARD OR WHAT WE THINK THE STANDARD OF THE PROJECT IS, UH, CAN AND WILL BE.
UM, AND I I WANNA SAY Y'ALL ARE VERY GOOD AT WHAT YOU DO.
WE WE'RE, UH, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE.
UM, AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY GLAD THAT ALEX, UH, HAS AGREED TO PARTNER WITH US, AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK BY NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND STAKEHOLDERS, AND, UH, WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT TOGETHER WE CAN PUT A PROJECT ON THE GROUND THAT WE'RE ALL VERY PROUD OF AND, AND, AND VERY EXCITED TO GO VISIT.
YOUR SUCCESS IS, IS REALLY DOUBLE-SIDED HERE BECAUSE, UM, YOU'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL JUST TO OURSELF.
AND SO WE KNOW THAT THE RETAILERS AT THE PARK IN 1890, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN THIS, THIS CENTER FOR THE MOST PART.
UM, AND SO WHAT DO WE HAVE TO COMPETE? WELL, IT HAS TO BE WALKABILITY, IT HAS TO BE AN EXPERIENCE, IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S SPECIAL.
UM, AND SO WHAT I'M WONDERING ABOUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OPTIONS AREA AND AND WHAT THAT TRANSITION IS, UM, I KNOW YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, BUT THIS IS WHERE I'M REALLY HUNG UP, IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THAT IS SPECIAL? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO ATTRACT HERE THAT IS WORTH PEOPLE COMING OUT FOR AND ISN'T, YOU KNOW, B OR C RETAILERS? YEAH.
SO, UM, I THINK THE FIRST THING I WOULD SAY, AND I'M, I'M FLATTERED BY AND APPRECIATIVE OF THE COMMENTS SURROUNDING OUR SUCCESS, AND I THINK THAT, UH, WHAT THAT'S MOST ATTRIBUTED TO IS DELIVERING PROJECTS THAT, THAT THE MARKET WILL SUPPORT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE WE GONNA GOING TO HAVE AT NORTHLINE THAT WILL GET PEOPLE OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY COMMITTED IN, IN THIS INSTANCE TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M GONNA CALL, UH, LIFESTYLE ARCHITECTURE AND LANDSCAPE.
UM, WE ARE INTERESTED IN CREATING A PLACE, UM, BUT THE CITY OF LEANDER, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF LEANDER IS, IS, IS READY FOR CLASS A, UH, YOU KNOW, RETAIL AND, AND TO DATE, UH, FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REASONS, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN A, A BUNCH OF RETAIL IN THIS MARKET.
AND I, AND THE, THE MARKET IS READY TO SUPPORT REALLY GREAT USERS.
AND, UH, I'M CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC THAT IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND PUT A PROJECT TOGETHER TO WHERE WE CAN USE OUR RESOURCES AND REPUTATION AND SKILLSET AND GO GET ONE OR TWO OR THREE GREAT RETAILERS, RESTAURANTS, AND THEN USE THOSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIALLY HERDING CATS.
I MEAN, I MENTIONED EARLIER THE, THE, THE STRUGGLE YOU HAVE WHERE THESE DECISION MAKERS ARE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE MAY DECIDE TO PUT A RESTAURANT LEANDER, THEY MAY COME TO TOWN FOR TWO HOURS.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY COME INTO TOWN, YOU PICK 'EM UP AT THE AIRPORT, YOU DRIVE 'EM UP HERE, YOU TAKE 'EM TO LUNCH, THEY GO HOME.
AND SO THE BEST WAY THAT, UH, THAT YOU CAN GET THEM COMFORTABLE WITH DOING YOUR SITE IS YOU HAVE A, UH, A DEVELOPER WITH A GOOD REPUTATION, AND YOU HAVE OTHER USERS WHO HAVE SIGNED OFF ON THAT, ON THAT SITE.
AND SO BY GETTING ONE OR TWO OR THREE GOOD ONES, WE GO THEN GET FOUR OR FIVE AND SIX, AND THEN WE GO GET SEVEN THROUGH 10, ET CETERA, AND BUILD THAT MOMENTUM.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, ACROSS ALL OF OUR PROJECTS, THAT'S ONE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO.
AND I, I THINK A LARGE PART OF THAT IS, UH, WE PUT SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS ON THE GROUND.
RETAILERS DO GREAT SALES IN OUR PROJECTS, AND SO THEY WANNA BE PART OF THAT.
UM, ON THE OPTIONS AREA, WHAT TYPES OF SQUARE FOOTAGES ARE YOU THINKING YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IN THERE WHEN YOU'RE GOING OUT TO THE MARKET TO LOOK FOR USERS? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? UH, I THINK THAT COULD BE ENTERTAINMENT.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SIZE OF THAT, UM, I MEAN, THAT, THAT LANDSCAPE IN GENERAL IS CHANGING.
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ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT ENTERTAINMENT CONCEPTS OUT THERE.SOME ARE, YOU KNOW, UH, ALL INDOOR, SOME OF 'EM HAVE INDOOR OUTDOOR COMPONENTS.
SOME OF 'EM ARE MOSTLY OUTDOORS.
AND SO FROM A SQUARE FOOTAGE STANDPOINT, UM, THAT'S A DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER, BUT FROM A TYPE OF TENANT STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF ENTERTAINMENT.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR EXPERIENCE IS, IS, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF GOING AND GETTING, YOU KNOW, REALLY GOOD RESTAURANTS.
AND A LOT OF TIMES WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS, UH, WHILE WE WILL FOR SURE HAVE NATIONAL OR REGIONAL RESTAURANTS A A BIG EFFORT AND A BIG PUSH FOR US IS GOING TO BE TO GO GET A REALLY COOL AUSTIN RESTAURANTS AND, AND TO GET THEM TO COME LOCATE TO NORTHLINE BECAUSE THEY DRIVE THE TRAFFIC AND THEY DRIVE THE SALES.
THAT'S EQUIVALENT TO, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY SERVE AS ANCHORS, REALLY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR OUR FOCUS, I THINK FOR THAT WILL BE PREDOMINANTLY, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT ENTERTAINMENT TYPE USES.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE A SCENARIO WHERE IT'S, UH, A MORE, WHAT I'M GONNA CALL TRADITIONAL SHOPPING CENTER ENVIRONMENT, UM, FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS I DON'T GET INTO, BUT I, I, I THINK IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT, UH, ENTERTAINMENT TYPE USES.
UM, MR. BERG, THIS ONE IS FOR YOU.
UM, YOU AND I SPOKE LAST WEEK AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE SQUARE, AND THAT THIS IS, THIS IS QUITE A DEVIATION BECAUSE IT MAKES THE SQUARE PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND ALL THIS TIME SINCE 2017, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ACTIVATING THE SQUARE AND GETTING PEOPLE OUT THERE.
UM, I WAS HOPING YOU COULD SHOW US SOME PLACES WHERE IT IS PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL ON SQUARES AND IT'S ACTIVE.
HAVE YOU YEAH, I ASKED MY LAND PLANNERS, UH, TO, TO THE, THEY, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE EXAMPLES FROM THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE, AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SHARE OTHER PEOPLE'S PLANNED, UH, SPACES.
BUT I DO WANNA SAY THAT, UM, I FEEL LIKE IT'S MORE OF A 50 50 MINIMUM BALANCE VERSUS PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE, BASICALLY, THE TWO BLOCKS ON THE NORTH ARE ALL RETAIL.
THE TWO BLOCKS ON THE SOUTH WOULD BE RETAIL CONVERTIBLE, AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE, IF, IF WE DO WHAT WE EXPECT ON A RETAIL, UH, EXCUSE ME, ON A HOTEL ON THE WEST SIDE, EXCUSE ME, ON THE EAST SIDE, THAT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT COMMERCIAL.
AND THEN ON THE WEST SIDE, THAT'S 50%, 25 TO 50, 25 TO 50.
UM, AND SO I FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BALANCE.
UM, AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME BACK FROM, FROM ENDEAVOR, SO I REALLY ALSO HAVE TO DEFER TO THEM AS WHERE THEY THOUGHT THAT MINIMUM THRESHOLD SHOULD BE.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THERE'S ANY MORE COLOR TO THAT THAT'LL, THAT'LL HELP WITH HOW THAT DETERMINATION GOT GOT MADE.
YEAH, I MEAN IT'S, I I FEEL LIKE I'M ON REPEAT JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT I JUST GO BACK TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STRUGGLES ASSOCIATED WITH THE GROUND FLOOR OF RETAIL, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, HAVING, UH, ONE OR TWO OR THREE REALLY GREAT TENANTS AND OTHER RESIDENTIAL IS FAR SUPERIOR TO HAVING A PROBLEM.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE DECISION THAT, THAT WE'VE MADE, THAT, UH, WE ARE, UH, VERY CERTAIN IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS.
NOT JUST ENDEAVOR, BUT YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS, CITY, ET CETERA.
IT'S, WE, WE'D RATHER REALLY FOCUS ON A FEW KEY COMMERCIAL, UH, USES AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONVERT LATER THAN BE IN A PLACE TO WHERE WE, WE'VE GOT AN OVERLOAD OF WHAT WE THINK WOULD BE VERY PROBLEMATIC OR CONCERNING.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR RANDALL.
I'LL, UM, I KNOW WE'RE FOCUSING JUST ON THIS, THIS PIECE.
I'M GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT IN KIND OF IN, IN AGGREGATE ON WHAT WE'RE WE'RE SEEING IN, IN GENERAL.
UH, THERE, I'LL PIGGYBACK OFF OF THE, THE MOMENTUM, UH, THEME THAT'S, UH, THAT'S OCCURRING IN, UM, IT REALLY HAS BEEN EXCITING.
I THINK WE'VE GOT ENOUGH, UH, LINES IN THE WATER.
WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO START LANDING SOME, SOME GOOD THINGS.
UM, HERE, UH, ALEX NOTED THE, THE HOTEL, UM, COMPONENTS.
I DID WANT TO, UM, EMPHASIZE THAT THAT REALLY
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IS, UM, YOU KNOW, NEEDING, UH, RETAIL TO, TO REALLY ADVANCE.UM, PART OF WHAT MAKES THAT VIABLE IS THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED A FEW YEARS AGO ON HOUSE BILL 41 0 3, THAT ALLOWS, UH, THE CITY TO CAPTURE THE STATE, UH, PORTION OF THE, OF BOTH HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX AS WELL AS SALES TAX, WHICH IS A, UM, COULD BE A, COULD BE A LARGE AMOUNT WITH THE, THE RETAIL PROVIDED.
CAPTURING THAT SALES TAX, IT'S FOR A RADIUS AROUND THE HOTEL, WHICH IS BLOCK J, CORRECT.
BLOCK JA THOUSAND FEET IS, UH, IN ALL DIRECTIONS SAME AMOUNT.
AND, UH, AND THEN THE SECOND, UH, PIECE THAT JUST GOT SOME GOOD NEWS ON, UM, THIS WEEK, UH, ALEX, UH, UH, MR. TYBERG NOTED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER ON THE, UM, REAL ESTATE CYCLE IN POTENTIALLY 2025 BEING, UH, UM, BEING THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE SOME, UM, ACCELERATED, UM, DEVELOPMENTS OCCUR AND THE THE CYCLES START TO OPEN UP.
I DID WANNA NOTE, IF YOU SAW, UM, RECENTLY, UH, BIG NEWS WITH, UH, WITH AMAZON WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH RETURN, RETURN TO WORK, RETURN TO THE OFFICE, UH, FIVE DAYS, UH, A WEEK NOW.
JOHN'S, UH, OFFICE DEVELOPMENT, I THINK IS, IS REALLY CRITICAL.
WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING TO, TO SEE THAT, UM, RETURN TO THE OFFICE, UM, PORTION.
SO HOW THAT, THAT TIES IN, I THINK IS, IS IMPORTANT TO, UH, AS WELL WITH, WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT OF, OF THE CLASS A, UM, OFFICE SPACE.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, UM, YESTERDAY SAW THE, THE NEWS OF THE, THE FED REDUCING BORROWING COSTS BY THE, OR THE, THE, UM, FED RATE BY 50 BASIS POINTS.
SO, UM, IN A SIGNALING OF REMOVING THAT, UH, ANOTHER 50 POINTS HERE, UH, BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
UH, SO I THINK WE'RE AT A, AT A GOOD TIMEFRAME TO, TO START TO SEE, UM, MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, OCCUR.
I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A PAUSE, UM, FROM, UH, FROM TENANTS AS SAY, YOU KNOW, HAVE FACED HIGHER, UM, CONSTRUCTION COSTS, HIGHER BORROWING COSTS, AND IT, IT FEELS LIKE SOME OF THAT, UH, THAT'S EASING NOW, WHICH IS, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS.
UH, SO, SO SUPPORTIVE OF THE, OF THE 16 ACRE PORTION.
I THINK THAT IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S NECESSARY.
AND, UM, AND WE'VE, I DO TRADE NOTES WITH THE, WITH THE LEASING TEAM, WITH, WITH ENDEAVOR.
I KNOW THEY'RE GOING, UM, I USE A FISHING TERM THAT DEEP SEA FISHING AND, AND GOING AFTER THE, THE RIGHT TENANTS.
SO THEY'RE GOING AFTER SOME, SOME BIG TENANTS AND, AND CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL LAND SOME HERE.
UH, VERY ENCOURAGED BY THE ENTERTAINMENT ASPECT IS AS WELL.
I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE HOTEL IS LOCATED, BLOCK J UH, ST.
JOHN'S IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, THAT COULD, COULD REALLY HELP TO, UM, TO ACTIVATE SOME OF SOME OF THAT AREA AND WOULD BE A GOOD TRANSITION PIECE.
SO, SO VERY, UM, WAS HAPPY THAT, UH, THAT MR. CODY MENTIONED THAT AND, AND WOULD BE VERY EXCITED TO, TO SEE AN ENTERTAINMENT USER.
AND I KNOW THERE ARE SOME LOOKING, LOOKING AROUND.
SO I, I THINK THAT WE'RE PROBABLY NOT OPPOSED TO MAKING CHANGES WITH THE OPTION AREA, UM, BUT NOT NECESSARILY ALL OF THESE CHANGES, I THINK, AND I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO, THIS IS A LITTLE PREMATURE BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED SOME KIND OF ASSURANCE OF HOW THINGS ARE GONNA LOOK.
DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT, COUNSEL? OKAY.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO THAT.
YOU CAN WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING SOMETHING REALLY CLEARLY.
IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE THESE BUILDINGS IN THIS PLACE AND THIS MUCH SPACE, THERE ARE PARAMETERS THAT YOU CAN PUT ON THE REQUEST, YOU KNOW, WITH HOW YOU'RE GOING TO AMENITIZE IT AND HOW, HOW IT'S GOING TO FLOW.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD WAIT TO SEE.
WHAT OTHER FEEDBACK DO Y'ALL HAVE? I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A, A LOT OF THINGS TONIGHT, BUT REALLY MY THING WAS WITH THE CHANGES IS, UM, BECAUSE I SAT IN THE FIRST CHAMBER MEETING WHEN NORTHLINE WAS FIRST PRESENTED A MILLION YEARS AGO.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY LIKED ABOUT IT WAS THE CONTINUITY OF THE PROJECT.
AND I THINK THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE SIDEWALKS AND THE LANDSCAPING AND ALL THE THINGS.
AND AS, AND AS ALL THESE PARTNERS ARE BROUGHT IN, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M, I GUESS I'M LOOKING FOR IS TO CONTINUE THAT CONTINUITY SO THAT THERE IS, AS EVERYBODY'S DEVELOPING THEIR PIECE OF THE PIE, WHAT WE STILL CAN FLOW FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER.
AND IT STILL FEELS LIKE THIS NORTH LAWN PROJECT, NOT JUST THIS PART HERE AND ST.
JOHN HERE AND THIS, THAT THERE REALLY IS A, A FLOW TO THE PROJECT.
AND THAT'S WHAT I, I, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO, ALTHOUGH PROBABLY ON THE SMALLER SCALE, 'CAUSE I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THE BIG THINGS, BUT, UM, THAT'S REALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT FOR ME, MADE NORTH LAWN.
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YEAH, I, I THINK I CAN ADDRESS THAT IN A WAY THAT'LL HOPEFULLY MAKE YOU COMFORTABLE.I BET IF YOU WENT TO, UH, THE DOMAIN TODAY, UH, THERE MIGHT BE A HUNDRED DIFFERENT OWNERS, UH, WITHIN THE DOMAIN.
UM, I BET IF YOU LOOKED AT THE CAPITAL, UH, OR THE EQUITY, THE, THE, THE MONEY TO, TO MAKE THE DOMAIN HAPPEN, UH, I KNOW THAT ENDEAVOR, UH, I BELIEVE WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT PARTNERS, UM, ON OUR PROJECT, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE WEREN'T INVOLVED IN, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE NOW PART OF THE DOMAIN THAT ARE REALLY KIND OF DOMAIN PERIPHERY.
AND SO A PROJECT LIKE THIS, UH, ALEX AND HIS TEAM, THERE'S GOING TO BE COORDINATION AMONGST EVERYBODY TO ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE CONTINUITY AND THAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, MATCHING LIGHT STANDARDS AND LANDSCAPE AND SIDEWALKS AND THINGS GO THAT, THAT, THAT MAKE IT FEEL LIKE ONE BIG PROJECT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT CONCERN, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, IN INSTITUTIONAL SOPHISTICATED DEVELOPMENT LIKE THAT IS A VERY COMMON CONCERN AND A REAL AND GREAT CONCERN, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ADDRESSED ALL THE TIME AND, AND CANDIDLY, VERY, VERY EASY TO WORK THROUGH.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AS FAR AS THE OPTION LAND AND, AND THE COMMENTS THERE, I THINK THAT WHAT I WOULD SAY, UH, IS CHALLENGING FOR US IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE OUT IN THE MARKET SAYING THAT WE CAN DELIVER SOMETHING THAT THEN WE CAN'T DELIVER.
AND SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT CHICKEN AND EGG, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO GO OUT AND NOT HAVE CONTROL OF, OF SOMETHING AND NOT KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK, AND THEN GO TELL THESE VARIOUS USERS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE THINK WE CAN OR WE HOPE WE CAN.
UM, I WOULD SAY AT A MINIMUM THAT WOULD BE ATYPICAL FOR US.
AND, AND PROBABLY MORE REALISTICALLY, YOU KNOW, WOULD NOT BE OF INTEREST.
I MEAN, IT, IT'S, WE BELIEVE THAT OUR, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE SUCCESS PUTTING THESE PROJECTS ON THE GROUND BECAUSE WHEN WE TELL DIFFERENT USERS THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING, WE KNOW WE CAN DO IT.
PART OF THE REASON THAT I CAN'T TELL YOU TODAY WHO IT'S GOING TO BE OR I'M UNWILLING TO, YOU KNOW, OR UNABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE, IS BECAUSE WE DON'T GET OURSELVES IN A PLACE WHERE WE'RE SAYING WE CAN AND WE'LL DELIVER SOMETHING UNTIL WE, WE KNOW THAT WE CAN.
AND SO WHILE I, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN A PLACE WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A JUST TRUST US AND LOOK WHAT WE'VE DONE, UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT COULD BE CHALLENGING FOR SOME, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S CONSIDERED BECAUSE FOR US TO GO OUT AND TRY TO COURT THESE USERS AND NOT KNOW WHAT WE HAVE, UH, WHERE IN TURN WHEN WE'RE PUTTING OUR REPUTATION AND OUR ABILITY TO DELIVER ON THE LINE, AND, UH, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE DON'T TYPICALLY DO.
UM, THERE MUST BE SOME SORT OF PARAMETERS THAT WE CAN AGREE TO ON THE PROJECT, UM, WITHOUT SAYING, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE SPECIFIC THINGS, BUT RIGHT.
LIKE, WHAT WOULD BE THAT MIDDLE GROUND THAT YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH SETTING IN STONE, BEING ABLE TO SAY IT'S WALKABLE? WELL, I THINK MY ANSWER TO THAT WOULD BE, UH, I BET IF WE ASKED EVERYONE ON THIS, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL WHAT WALKABLE LOOKED LIKE, WE'D GET NINE DIFFERENT ANSWERS.
AND SO I, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO FROM LIKE A REPUTATION STANDPOINT FOR ENDEAVOR OR AN EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT WITH THE CITY OF LEANER OR WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS, UM, WE TRY TO, WE TRY TO POSITION OURSELVES IN SUCH A WAY THAT, SO THAT EVERYBODY'S, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY HAVE GOING INTO IT SO THAT WE DON'T DISAPPOINT WHAT YOUR POSITION OF WALKABLE MIGHT BE COMPARED TO MINE.
AND SO I, I, I RECOGNIZE AND UNDERSTAND THAT DESIRE, BUT I, I, IT'S CHALLENGING FOR ME TO SEE A WAY THAT USING WALKABLE AS AN EXAMPLE, THAT, THAT, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE WOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO CAN, CAN I JUST MAKE A COMMENT? YES, MA'AM.
UM, ALEX AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLY ON, THE WALKABILITY OF IT, AND, AND, AND I HAVE NOT CHANGED MY OPINION ABOUT IT.
IT WAS GREAT IN THE BEGINNING.
I THINK IT IS STILL HAS TREMENDOUS POTENTIAL.
UM, I DON'T WANT TO SEE US GET HUNG UP ON THE WALKABILITY BECAUSE THE DOMAIN, USING THAT AS THE EXAMPLE, KNOWING IT IS NOT, THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS.
UM, SOME OF US GO TO THE DOMAIN BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, NOT BECAUSE WE WANT TO.
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STORE IS, RIGHT?AND IF I COULD PULL UP TO THE APPLE STORE AND WALK INTO THE STORE, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AND WALK OUT WITH EVERYTHING THAT I NEED.
AND ANY OTHER STORE I WANNA DRIVE UP TO IT, GO IN, GET OUT, GO HOME OR GO EAT OR WHATEVER I'M DOING.
SO NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO JUST GO HANG OUT AND WALK AROUND AND GO WINDOW SHOPPING, BECAUSE USUALLY THOSE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THEIR HANDS.
WELL, SO MY, YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED THE DIFFICULTIES ASSOCIATED WITH GROUND FLOOR RETAIL.
SO, UM, AND, AND I'M, AND THAT IS, KNOWING THAT THAT IS A RELATIVELY NEW CONCEPT, UM, I ALSO SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WORKING ON A PROJECT IN CALIFORNIA, AND IT WAS THE FIRST OF THAT TYPE.
IT WAS EXPENSIVE, IT WAS WELL DONE, THE BEST DEVELOPER AROUND.
AND IT SAT EMPTY FOR SIX YEARS IN SANTA CRUZ, CALIFORNIA.
AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS BEFORE COVID.
THAT WAS BEFORE ANY, ANY OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THINGS THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED OVER THE PLA THE PAST FEW YEARS.
SO WITH THAT SAID, UM, AND BY THE WAY, THEY WERE GIVING THE BUILDING AWAY FOR PEOPLE TO USE IT JUST TO GET, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, UM, IN IT TO, SO THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, RENT OUT FOR EVENT SPACE.
SO NOT TO SAY THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AND THAT THAT'S VERY COMMON.
IT WAS JUST MY FIRST EXPERIENCE WITH THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UM, THIS IS WHAT YOU DO AND YOU'RE THE EXPERT.
AND WE HAVE TO, I, I MEAN, THIS IS, TO ME, THIS IS A PIVOT TO SEE, UM, THE, THE, UM, I'M SORRY, THE, THE RETAIL ON THE, ON THE, THE OUTSIDE.
IT MAKES, HONESTLY, IT MAKES MORE SENSE THAN IT DID BEFORE.
UM, BUT I, AS I SAID TO ALEX, I'M PROBABLY NOT THE ONE THAT'S GONNA GO HANG OUT THERE EITHER.
SO I, I I'M NOT, I DON'T WANNA USE MYSELF AS THE EXAMPLE IS IT RIGHT.
FOR LEANDER IS THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT'S JUST KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I'M, I COME FROM THERE AND THE WALKABILITY, I, I WOULD LIKE US TO NOT GET TOO HUNG UP ON THAT, UM, FOR THAT SPOT.
NOT NECESSARILY THE INTERIOR, BUT FOR THAT SPOT.
WELL, I, I APPRECIATE ALL THAT.
I, I, UH, SUSPECT AND INTEND, UH, TO DEVELOP A PROJECT WHERE THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU, YOU MEET IN THE MIDDLE AND WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THE TYPE OF SHOPPING THAT YOU DESIRE TO DO.
AND, AND I DO THINK THAT, UH, WE CAN DO SOMETHING THAT HONESTLY CHECKS BOTH BOXES AND HAS A LOT OF SUCCESS.
I JUST THINK IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT COMPROMISE AND, AND, AND MEANING IN THAT MIDDLE PLACE.
CAN I, CAN I JUST SAY ONE THING? UM, SO THE VISION OF NORTHLINE FROM DAY ONE IS, IS A WONDERFUL VISION THAT I THINK ALL OF US ASPIRE TO, TO SEE IT REALIZED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A PLAN ON A PIECE OF PAPER THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING TO LIFE.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO JUST SORT OF HIGHLIGHT THAT.
I'M TRYING TO DO AS, AS THE DEVELOPER REC, REALIZE AS MUCH OF THAT AS, AS, AS IS, AS IS TANGIBLE, AS IS POSSIBLE.
I BROUGHT IN WHO I FEEL IS THE BEST PARTNER TO REALIZE THAT VISION AND THAT PARTNER HAS SAID, YOU KNOW, NOT ALL OF IT MAY BE DOABLE, BUT HERE'S WHERE WE WANT TO KIND OF DO SOME MODIFICATIONS TO MEET THAT VISION AS, AS BEST AS THE MARKET WILL BEAR, NOT PRECLUDING THE ABILITY TO HAVE THAT, THAT RETAIL AREA FULLY AROUND TOWN SQUARE REALIZED OVER TIME.
AND SO, I, I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT, I'M NOT TRYING TO POINT THE FINGER, BUT THIS IS BEING DRIVEN BY THE EXPERT IN TODAY'S MARKET, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN 2018.
AND I THINK WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING HERE.
WE ALSO ALL, ALL WANT THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY WITH A GREAT PARTNER TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD IN, IN THE NEXT NUMBER OF, OF, OF MONTHS AND YEARS AND, AND REALIZE THAT MUCH OF THIS IS POSSIBLE DURING THAT TIMEFRAME.
AND TWO, YOU, YOU, YOU SAID AT 8 20 18 IS,
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WAS A DIFFERENT TIME.WE WERE ON A DIFFERENT TRAJECTORY THAN WE ARE NOW.
UH, THE WHOLE AREA IS, AND WHEN YOU BROKE GROUND IN MARCH OF 2020, UM, IT'S A DIFFERENT, IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD TODAY THAN IT WAS THEN.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO, TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE SEE.
I DON'T WANNA CALL IT A PROBLEM, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT, IT'S A DIFFERENT TIME AND YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE TIME AND WORKING WITH THE MARKET.
I THINK THAT WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT.
I THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT THAT FAR OFF FROM EACH OTHER.
UM, I THINK IT'S THE, THE LACK OF ANY DETAIL AT ALL THAT IS GIVING US HEARTBURN, BECAUSE IT COULD BE ANYTHING, RIGHT? IF IT COULD BE WALMART, RIGHT? AND WE DON'T WANT WALMART THERE.
UM, AND SO I THINK JUST NOT HAVING ANY SORT OF IDEA ABOUT HOW, HOW ANYTHING WOULD TRANSITION OR HOW IT WOULD LOOK, I THINK, I THINK THAT IS THE STICKING POINT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT RIDING ON THIS, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE YOU OUTLINED EARLIER, $15 MILLION THAT WE PUT INTO IT, UM, AND, AND ALL OF THE TIME.
AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BUILDING SOMETHING THAT IS REALISTIC, UM, BUT WILL WITHSTAND THE TEST OF TIME.
AND SO IT'S, I KNOW IT'S MAKING ME UNEASY.
AND I SENSE THAT WITH THE REST OF COUNCIL TOO.
YEAH, I JUST THINK WITH, WITH, WITH US UP HERE, JUST IN SUMMARY OF EVERYTHING THAT I JUST, THAT JUST GOT TALKED ABOUT, I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECI DECISION ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF LEANDER WITH OUR STAFF, WITH ANY OTHER INPUT WITH US, IS DO WE BELIEVE THE MARKET DATA THAT'S BEING PRESENTED AND THE CASE STUDIES THAT ARE HERE? AND IF THAT'S A LEGITIMATE PROBLEM, THEN WE HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER SOLUTION IF WE WANNA SEE THIS GO FORWARD.
OR ARE WE WILLING TO JUST SIT AND WAIT FOR THE MARKET TO CHANGE IF THOSE, IF THOSE THINGS ARE CORRECT, WHICH I'M NOT DOUBTING YOU, UM, 'CAUSE I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE SAME STUFF THERE TOO.
UM, BUT ARE WE WILLING TO WAIT FOR THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT TO BE OKAY WHERE PEOPLE ARE RUSHING TO, TO COME ON IN TO BRING, UH, A RETAILERS INSTEAD OF B OR C RETAILERS INTO AREA LIKE THAT? WHAT ARE, WHAT, WHAT IS OUR TOLERANCE LEVEL? AND IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING TOGETHER AND WE NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT PRETTY QUICK HERE, UM, AND IF, AND IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WILLING TO, IF THE, IF THE RISK TOLERANCE FOR US IS TOO MUCH TO GO, TO GO OFF PLAN BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE SET ON THIS IDEA, THEN WE NEED TO BE FAIR TO THEM AS, AS A DEVELOPMENT PARTNER POTENTIALLY TOO, AND LET 'EM KNOW THAT.
SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET WITH, WITH, WITH KEY MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF AND TOGETHER AND JUST SAY, DO WE BELIEVE THE DATA THAT'S PRESENTED HERE? AND DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? 'CAUSE IF, SO, WE NEED TO FIGURE THOSE THINGS OUT, RIGHT? TIMELY.
AND, AND I AGREE, AND I WAS THINKING WE NEED JUST A LITTLE BIT OF MORE TIME TO DIGEST WHAT ALL Y'ALL HAVE SAID AND, UM, AND, AND TAKE A LOOK AT THINGS AND MAYBE TALK ABOUT IT AT THE NEXT MEETING AND MAKE A DECISION.
WOULD THAT, I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE, WE WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING ON MAKING, WE'RE TAKING ACTION LATER ON ABOUT ANOTHER, A PORTION OF THIS THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY OPTION AREA, RIGHT? I MEAN, THE OPTION AREA YEAH.
AND, AND I, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO TELL YOU IS AS A COUNCIL IS WE KNOW THAT THIS IS TIMELY, AND WE KNOW THIS IS IMPORTANT TO FIGURE OUT RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DELAY IT BY ANY MEANS, BUT WE WANNA MAKE, AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE, I MEAN, WE, WE QUITE FRANKLY, WE KNOW THAT FOR ONE REASON OR NOT, WHETHER IT'S CREDIBLE OR NOT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE REPUTATION OF MAYBE MAKING, LIKE, LIKE BEING HARD OR ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT.
AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE, WE'RE GROWING VERY FAST AND WE'RE TRYING TO STEWARD WHAT WE'RE GIVING IN FRONT OF US VERY WELL FOR DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE BEFORE.
AND HONORING THOSE THINGS AND MONEY THAT'S BEEN PUT BEFORE, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY RATHER THAN JUST GOING BY THE SEAT OF OUR PANTS.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S, UH, I MEAN, I, I, UH, TOTALLY RESPECT THE PROCESS.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY ACCUSTOMED TO GOING THROUGH.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WORST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN, UH, FOR, FOR ALL OF US IS FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR NORTHLINE TO GET DEVELOPED IN SUCH A WAY THAT YOU KNOW, THAT PEOPLE AREN'T HAPPY.
AND WHILE I RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR OVERRIDING OBJECTIVE, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THIS PROJECT IS TO PUT A PROJECT ON THE GROUND THAT EVERYBODY'S REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, OR THE VAST MAJORITY ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT AND VERY PROUD OF.
SO I, UH, TOTALLY RESPECT THE PROCESS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT ANY WAY THAT I CAN BE OF SERVICE OR THAT OUR GROUP CAN BE OF SERVICE TO HELP Y'ALL WORK THROUGH THAT, WE WANNA BE PART OF THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, WE'RE HERE TO HELP.
AND, YOU KNOW, UH, A BIG PART OF OUR SUCCESS AND REPUTATION IS PARTNER LIKE BEHAVIOR.
AND SO WE, WE WANNA BE Y'ALL'S PARTNER, AND WE WANT TO HELP IN ANY AND EVERY WAY THAT WE CAN.
AND WE, WE SINCERELY HOPE THAT, UH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO OR ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE CAN GATHER, WHATEVER IT IS THAT, THAT YOU LET US KNOW, BECAUSE WE DO WANT YOU TO BE INFORMED AND WE WANNA HELP.
UH, DARA, CAN WE GET THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR OCTOBER 3RD, PLEASE? THANK YOU.
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SO MUCH YOUR TIME AND, AND HELP AND, AND EFFORT.WE, WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE IT, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN OUR BRIEFING SESSION.
WE'LL START OUR MEETING A LITTLE LATE.
[4. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.]
GOOD EVENING.TODAY IS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2024, AND THE TIME IS 7:23 PM AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL.
TONIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD WILL BE PROVIDING OUR INVOCATION FOLLOWING THE INVOCATION.
PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE.
EMILY, FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TONIGHT, LORD, AND WE JUST, UH, SURRENDER TO YOU THAT WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE IN CONTROL, THAT YOU'RE GOD.
AND, UM, FATHER, YOU HAVE ORDAINED ALL OF US FOR GOOD WORK.
SO, LORD, I JUST PRAY THAT YOU BE WITH EVERYONE THAT'S SITTING IN ON THIS DICE TONIGHT.
FATHER, THAT WE JUST REPRESENT YOU WELL.
WE REPRESENT THESE, UH, CITIZENS OF LEANDER WELL.
AND FATHER, JUST, UH, DO WHAT IS BEST AND RIGHT FOR OUR CITY.
AND LORD, I JUST PRAY THAT YOU JUST, UH, CONTINUE TO MOVE WITHIN OUR CITY, MOVE WITH, MOVE WITHIN OUR PEOPLE, AND JUST CONTINUE TO POUR YOUR BLESSINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO FATHER, BLESS US EVENING, BLESS THE WORK THAT WE DO.
BLESS ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE, AND INDIVISIBLE CITY SECRETARY
[5. Roll Call.]
CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER CATHERINE BATTALION.IF, IF Y'ALL, COUNCIL MEMBER CATHERINE BATTALION PARKER.
HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD.
PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS ERNIE.
THE CITY COUNCIL'S ELIGIBLE TO BE BUSINESS.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS NON AGENDA ITEM, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, I WILL CALL ON SPEAKERS PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE AGENDA ITEM AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED COMMENTS VIA THE WEBSITE WILL ONLY HAVE POSITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD.
ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL AND WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD.
I HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK THEN.
SO DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT SOMETHING NOT ON THE AGENDA? ALL RIGHT, MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN,
[7. Recognitions/Proclamations/Visitors.
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WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION FOR PARKS AND RECREATION MAINTENANCE AND EQUIPMENT CREWS WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SNICK.
ALRIGHT, THANKS FOR EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE.
SORRY WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LATE.
UM, SO LET IT BE KNOWN THAT LEANDER PARKS AND RECREATION MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TEAM IS RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF LEANDER, TEXAS.
FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO MAINTAINING AND IMPROVING OUR PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES, AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO PROVIDING THE BEST EXPERIENCE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS, WE APPLAUD YOUR DEVOTION TO MAKING LEAN A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AND VISIT.
THIS CERTIFICATE IS ISSUED IN RECOGNITION THEREOF ON THIS DAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2024, SIGNED BY MAYOR DELAL.
MR. CUMMINS, DO YOU WANNA COME TELL US ABOUT YOUR WONDERFUL CREW? YEAH, YEAH.
THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL, WE APPRECIATE THIS RECOGNITION.
UM, THEY DO AN INCREDIBLE JOB DAY IN AND DAY OUT AS THEY, UM, TACKLE THE, THE ELEMENTS, THE WEATHER AROUND US, WHETHER IT'S 105 OR IT'S 25, THEY DO AN INCREDIBLE JOB AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THEY DO FOR HELPING US WITH, UM, FROM EVERYTHING FROM MOWING TO ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION, EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
SO THEY KEEP OUR PARKS LOOKING REALLY NICE AND NEAT AND CLEAN AND AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO RECOGNIZE 'EM TODAY.
SO THANK YOU FOR, UM, HONORING 'EM AND RECOGNIZE THEM FOR THEIR EFFORTS TODAY.
OUR PARKS ARE SO BEAUTIFUL, THANKS TO YOU.
AND, UH, AND AN EXTRA SPECIAL THANK YOU FOR LAST WEEKEND WHEN WE HAD THE VOLUNTEERS OUT.
I KNOW IT MUST HAVE TAKEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT TO PUT TOGETHER ALL OF THOSE, THOSE MULCH PILES, AND THE REST OF THE PARK LOOKED BEAUTIFUL.
SO THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
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GET A PHOTO.DID YOU, YOU GONNA TAKE THREE BIG STEPS TO THE LEFT PODIUM? THANK YOU.
[8. Leander History]
HISTORY.AND TONIGHT WE HAVE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSIONER KAT HOWELL.
UH, OKAY, SO, UM, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I PUT THESE SLIDES TOGETHER, SO WE'RE GONNA LEARN 'EM TOGETHER TO THIS EVENING.
UM, FIRST THING THAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS WHAT THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMISSION IS WORKING ON DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
UH, THE FIRST ONE COMING UP IS SPIRITS OF BAGHDAD.
WE STILL HAVE SPACES AVAILABLE IN THE EARLIER PART OF THE DAY, UH, THREE 40 AND FOUR O'CLOCK.
ANYWAY, IT'S GOING TO BE FUN, IT'S GONNA BE TERRIFIC.
WE ARE GOING TO, IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT IT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ACTORS COME AND PORTRAY INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BURIED IN THE CEMETERY.
AND, UM, IT, IT'S, THEY'RE TOP NOTCH.
UH, THEN WE ALSO HAVE, WHAT DO WE HAVE NEXT GOING ON? OH, WITH THE PARKS TIE IN, WE HAVE THE, ACTUALLY THE, UM, UH, ST.
GABRIEL DAUGHTERS OF AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
WE MADE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL ABOUT A YEAR AGO ABOUT PLACING A BETSY ROSS FLAG OVER AT THE VETERANS PARK HERE IN LEANDER.
AND WE HAVE OUR FLYER, I HAVE A LITTLE FLYER HERE, AND, UM, SECRETARY DARA WAS VERY NICE TO PLACE IT ON YOUR DESK.
THIS IS, IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S A FLYER ON THE FRONT, AND THEN THERE'S AN ORDER FORM.
WE'RE USING PAVERS AS OUR MEANS TO PAY FOR THIS EVENT OR PAY FOR THIS, UM, FLAG BEING PLACED THERE.
AND, UM, WHEN, WHEN IT IS COMPLETED, WHEN THE PROJECTS IS COMPLETED, IT WILL BE GIFTED TO THE CITY.
AND, UM, WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO GET THIS DONE BECAUSE 2026 IS AMERICA'S 250TH ANNIVERSARY IS COMING UP FAST.
AND, UM, WE WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THIS IN PREPARATION FOR THAT NEXT THING COMING UP.
PARKS DEPARTMENT, AGAIN, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, UM, THEY HELP US, THEY TAKE CARE OF THE MASON HOMESTEAD.
AND THIS YEAR WE ARE HAVING HOLIDAYS AT THE HOMESTEAD ON NOVEMBER 16TH.
AND, UM, ONE THING THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DOES IS THEY HELP GET THAT HOUSE IN TIP TOP SHAPE IN PREPARATION FOR US COMING IN THERE.
AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, AND WE, THIS YEAR WE ARE ADDING ARTS AND CRAFTS FE AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE, WE WILL HAVE A MODERN DAY PHOTOGRAPHER AND WE WILL HAVE A PHOTOGRAPHER WITH HIS CAMERA FROM THE 18 HUNDREDS.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE PRETTY NEAT.
UM, LAST YEAR WE NOTICED THAT PEOPLE, THEY CAME AND THEY WANTED TO TAKE THEIR FAMILY CHRISTMAS PICTURES, SO WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING THAT THIS YEAR AS A, AN ACTUAL VENUE FOR THEM TO DO THAT THERE.
UH, NEXT THING IS REESE ACROSS AMERICA IS DECEMBER 14TH THIS YEAR, SATURDAY, DECEMBER 14TH.
SO PLEASE PUT THAT ON YOUR CALENDARS.
AND, UH, I'LL ASK Y'ALL SEPARATELY IF Y'ALL CAN PARTICIPATE AGAIN.
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DOC CRUMBLEY THE OLD INDIAN DOCTOR.THIS PICTURE HERE IS FROM THE TEXAS CO-OP POWER.
AND FROM 2015, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE ON HIM IN THE, IN THE TEXAS CO-OP POWER.
AND I DID NOT, I DON'T REMEMBER READING THIS.
UM, 2015 WAS A PRETTY HARD YEAR FOR ME, SO, UH, I JUST, I, I DID NOT CATCH THIS ARTICLE.
DOC CRUMBLEY, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY HERE ON DOC CRUMBLEY.
THIS PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS THE PICTURE THAT WE HAVE.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONE I JUST SHOWED YOU.
UH, THEY TOOK THAT, THIS ONE MY MOTHER ACTUALLY HAD ACCESS TO THE ORIGINAL.
AND THIS CAME FROM MY MOTHER'S FILES.
AND THAT'S THE PICTURE THAT WE USED IN OUR, UH, HISTORY OF LEANDER BOOK.
AND THEN THE NEXT TO IT IS HIS TOMBSTONE.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY PICTURE.
SO LET ME READ YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DOC CRUMBLY.
THIS IS FROM THE FAMILY SIDE, DOC RUMLEY.
DR. BENJAMIN T RUMLEY WAS BORN IN KIWI, OLD TOWN CHEROKEE NATION, SOUTH CAROLINA, 7 22 18 22.
HE DIED MARCH 19TH, 1901 AND IS BURIED NEAR THE CENTER OF THE KNOX CEMETERY OUTSIDE OF EANT, TEXAS.
HE ATTENDED MEDICAL SCHOOL IN GEORGIA AND FINISHED HIS DEGREE WORK IN FRANCE.
HE DID SPEND SOME TIME ABOUT SEVEN YEARS WITH THE CHEROKEE STUDYING HERBAL MEDS, WHICH HE LATER USED PRACTICE IN TEXAS.
HE LIVED AT ONE TIME IN SAN MARCO.
HE LOST HIS PLACE THERE DUE TO A FLOOD AND MOVED TO BUTTERCUP CREEK IN WHAT IS NOW CEDAR PARK.
UH, LATER ON HE PURCHASED A RANCH IN LAMB PASSES.
HE WAS OFTEN CALLED TO CONSULT WITH DOCTORS IN AUSTIN WHO WANTED HIS ADVICE.
AND ON HERBAL MEDICINES, WHICH HE PREPARED HIMSELF WITH HERBS AND ROOTS COLLECTED LOCALLY.
HE ALSO HA HE WAS, UH, ALSO HE WOULD USE
NOW, MY GREAT-GRANDMOTHER CALLED DOC RUMLEY A WITCH DOCTOR BECAUSE HIS HEALING STONE WAS, UH, VOODOO BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT HE DID.
BUT THIS IS FROM THE ARTICLE THAT IS FROM A NON-FAMILY MEMBER.
THAT GIVES A LITTLE BETTER DESCRIPTION.
UH, OH, I'M RUNNING OUTTA TIME ANYWAY.
DOC RUMLEY, AT THAT TIME, HE DEFINITELY DID NOT STUDY IN FRANCE.
HE DID NOT HAVE A MEDICAL DEGREE.
HE DID HAVE STUDY MEDICINE FROM THE CHEROKEE, AND HE DID A LOT OF GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
HIS HEALING STONE, MOST LIKELY WAS WHATEVER STONE HE COULD FIND AT THE TIME.
WHAT THEY WOULD DO, IT WAS, IT WAS, THEY WOULD PUT IT ON THE SKIN AND IT WOULD BE A POROUS STONE AND WOULD PULL OUT THE, UM, THE WHATEVER, THE PUSS OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
UH, HERBAL MEDICINES, AS WE ALL KNOW, THEY DO HAVE A PLACE AND HE USED A LOT OF THOSE.
UH, BUT HIS CON CONSULTATIONS IN AUSTIN, WHEN HE WOULD GO DOWN THERE, UH, HE ALSO USED MORPHINE AS ONE OF HIS THINGS, AND HE WOULD GO TO AUSTIN AND GET MORPHINE.
AND, UM, SUPPOSEDLY HE WAS, HE ACTUALLY DID ENROLL IN MEDICAL SCHOOL, BUT HE WAS KICKED OUT FOR DRINKING.
SO, BUT DOC, DOC CRUMBLEY DID DO A WHOLE LOT FOR THE PEOPLE HERE.
AND HE DID LIVE IN BUTTERCUP CREEK.
AND, UH, HE, HE WAS A LITTLE INTERESTING CHARACTER AND I HOPE TO SEE HIM ON, UM, THE 19TH OVER AT THE SPIRITS OF BAGHDAD.
HE'S BURIED IN EVENT, BUT HE MIGHT VISIT.
THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
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WE HAVE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM UPDATE.
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE PEOPLE AT HOME.
UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, RUSSELL ALABASTRO, CIP PROJECT MANAGER.
AND I WILL BE UPDATING Y'ALL ON THE LEANDER SENIOR CENTER.
SO, SO, AS WE KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF THIS SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTER WAS TO, UH, RELOCATE THE CURRENT FACILITIES FROM THE BAGHDAD, UH, EXISTING FACILITY TO CITY LAND ON MUNICIPAL DRIVE.
THE BENEFITS WOULD PROVIDE A MUCH LARGER PERMANENT FACILITY WITH DEDICATED PROGRAM SPACE TO HOUSE ALL THESE ACTIVITIES AND SERVICES FOR THE ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITY OF LEANDER.
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WE AREN'T, UH, WE DON'T OWN THE, THE BAGHDAD ACTIVITY CENTER.AND THEY WILL FREAK OUT, BUT THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S WHERE SOME SENIORS GO RIGHT NOW.
I THINK MEALS ON WHEELS IS MOVING FROM THERE.
UH, SO HERE'S THE TIMELINE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
UM, MAY 29TH, WE DID THE GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY OUT AT THE SITE.
AND DURING THE SUMMER, UH, 'CAUSE WE'RE OFFICIALLY OUT OF SUMMER RIGHT NOW, UM, WE COMPLETED THE UTILITY TIE-INS AND POURED THE DRIVEWAYS IN THE, IN THE APPROACHES FOR THE, UH, FACILITY.
IN SEPTEMBER, WE'RE POURING THE BUILDING FOUNDATION SLAB, WHICH I WILL, UH, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY COMPLETED THIS PAST TUESDAY.
SO THE FOUNDATION SLAB IS IN AND, UH, STARTING, WE'RE EXPECTING THE END OF THIS MONTH, UH, EARLY OCTOBER TO START RECEIVING STEEL FOR THE PROJECT, AND IT WILL BE ERECTED IN THE OCTOBER NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME.
THEN FROM THERE, NOVEMBER DECEMBER, THEY'LL START, UM, FRAMING THE WALLS ON THE INTERIOR AND START CLOSING IN THE BUILDING.
SO IT'LL BE, UH, WEATHERPROOF AND THEN, UH, STILL PROJECTING A Q1 2025 COMPLETION.
UH, I'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE PICTURES HERE.
UH, THIS IS SOME OF THE UTILITY WORK, UH, THAT HAPPENED IN MUNICIPAL.
THIS WAS THE STORM SEWER LINE THAT WAS BEING INSTALLED AS IT PROGRESSED FROM INSTALLATION, REPAIRING THE ROAD, AND THEN RES STRIPING.
AND THESE ARE THE APPROACHES THAT WERE POURED HERE.
UH, THESE ARE SOME FOUNDATION PLANTS THAT, UH, HELP SUPPORT THE BOTTOMS OF COLUMNS.
UH, THIS IS THE, UH, PIPING FOR THE ELECTRICAL TRANSFORMER THAT'S COMING IN AND KIND OF, IT'S BETTER TO SEE ALL THE REST OF THE FOUNDATION WORK THAT'S GOING ON FOR GRADE BEAMS, UM, REINFORCING THAT WENT IN, AND THE VAPOR BARRIER THAT WENT IN AFTER THEY DUG EVERYTHING OUT.
WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE IT HAPPENING.
I'M THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE A UPDATE ON RIGHTER WAY AND WOODVIEW DRIVE IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, AS WE ALL KNOW, THE PURPOSE WAS TO COME IN AND TAKE THE TWO LANE COUNTY ROAD THAT WAS THERE.
WE'RE GONNA WIDEN, IMPROVE IT TO THREE LANES WITH THE CENTER TURN LANE, BIKE LANES, SIDEWALKS.
AND THIS IS TO INCREASE THE MULTIMODAL SAFETY AND BETTER TRAFFIC FLOW BENEFITS, BENEFITS OF THIS BY APOLOGIES, WE'LL ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC CONGESTION BY ROUTING, TURNING VEHICLES INTO TURN LANES AND INCREASE SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS, AND DRIVERS BY ADDING SIDEWALKS, HAWKS, AND BIKE LANES RIGHT AWAY.
OUR TIMELINE, UH, STARTING IN 2320 23RD OF MAY, WE HAD THE ENGINEERED DESIGNS COMPLETED.
WE WENT OUT TO BID IN JUNE, OR ACTUALLY WE HAD THE PROJECT BID IN JUNE, I'M SORRY.
UH, BY JULY, 2023, WE HAD A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AWARDED.
AND BY AUGUST OF 2023, A YEAR AGO, EXCAVATION AND DEMOLITION BEGAN BY MARCH.
WE HAD COMPLETED UP THROUGH TO HAVING THE SOUTH LANE OF WOODVIEW DEMOLISHED, UH, ONE WAY ONLY ON WOODVIEW.
THEN IN JUNE, 2024, WE RIGHT AWAY WAS CLOSED TO ONE WAY ONLY.
UH, AS OF AUGUST, 2024, RIGHT AWAY, WOODVIEW INTERSECTION WAS DEMOLISHED AND TRAFFIC FLOW PATTERN WAS REVERSED.
STILL ONE WAY ONLY RIGHTWAY POTENTIALLY RETURNS TO TWO-WAY TRAFFIC LATE NOVEMBER, EARLY DECEMBER.
UH, WOODVIEW DRIVE IN FEBRUARY, 2025 POTENTIALLY RETURNS BACK TO TWO-WAY TRAFFIC, AND THEN WE'RE STILL ON TARGET TO BE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IN JULY, 2025.
UH, CONS, CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS HERE WITHIN THE RECENT, UH, TIMEFRAME, UH, CONCRETE CURB AND GUTTER WAS COMPLETED ALONG, UH, RIGHTER WAY.
YOU CAN SEE THAT RIGHT IN HERE.
WE'VE COMPLETED ALL THE CONCRETE CURB AND GUTTER ON BOTH SIDES.
CONCRETE CURB AND GUTTER IS NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION ON WOODVIEW DRIVE.
SIDEWALK WAS CONSTRUCTED ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF WOODVIEW DRIVE.
ASPHALT FIRST LAYER WERE PLACED ALONG RIGHT AWAY.
YOU CAN SEE THE DARKER ASPHALT HERE.
SO NOW WE HAVE ASPHALT FROM CURB LINE TO CURB LINE.
NOW THEY UNDERSTAND THIS IS JUST THE FIRST LAYER.
WE STILL HAVE AN INCH AND A HALF OF TOPPING ASPHALT TO BE PUT DOWN.
WE COMPLETED THE TYPE B ASPHALTIC BASE AT THE NORTHWEST AND SOUTHEAST QUADRANTS OF THE ROUNDABOUT.
AND THE STORM DRAIN WAS CONNECTED TO THE MAIN STORM DRAIN UNDER CRYSTAL FALLS.
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YES,AND I KNOW Y'ALL ARE GONNA GET THE INFORMATION THAT I ASKED EARLIER ABOUT HOW MANY ACCIDENTS WERE REPORTED.
SINCE SCHOOL STARTED, AND IF THAT LOOKS DIFFERENT.
BUT MY QUESTION TONIGHT IS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
I REMEMBER WHEN WE DID THE TOWN HALL YES, MA'AM.
THAT DURING THE FIRST FEW WEEKS THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A TRAFFIC STUDY TO EVALUATE WHAT WAS GOING ON.
HAS THAT BEEN DONE? AND YES, MA'AM.
THAT THE, THE FIRST WEEK IT WAS RUNNING FOR ONE FULL WEEK.
WHILE WE COUNTED AND, AND WATCHED CARS AND, AND TOOK THE DATA IN.
AND THEY'LL TAKE PROBABLY A, PROBABLY A WEEK, WEEK AND A HALF TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP THE REPORT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE REPORT YET.
WE DON'T HAVE A REPORT IN HAND.
THEY ARE GONNA GET US THE INFORMATION.
WE'LL GET THAT OVER TO YOU ALL AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE THROUGH DARA.
ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL? THIS IS FANTASTIC.
ANOTHER ONE WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO SEE HAPPENING.
KEEP ALL THE GOOD THINGS COMING.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO OUR
[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
CONSENT AGENDA.UH, ITEM NUMBER 24 HAS BEEN PULLED FROM THE AGENDA AND WILL BE BROUGHT BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING.
SO WE'LL BE CONSIDERING CONSENT.
AGENDA ITEMS 10 THROUGH 23 AND 25 THROUGH 35.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM NUMBER 36 HAS BEEN POSTPONED.
[37. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case Z-24-0127 to amend the current zoning of Northline Planned Unit Development to adopt the Northline Retail Planned Unit Development with base zoning district of GC-2-A (General Commercial) on eight (8) parcels of land approximately 16.0602 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R517094, R031604, R646992, R646986, R646987, R646988, R646989, and R646990; and generally located southwest of the intersection of East San Gabriel Parkway and 183A Toll Road, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, GRIFFIN.
UM, THIS IS, UH, A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING NORTHLINE PUD TO CREATE THE NORTHLINE RETAIL PUD.
UM, THIS PUD INCLUDES THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, UM, ADJACENT TO SAN GABRIEL AS WELL AS THE TOLL ROAD.
UM, THE PURPOSE IN THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO ALLOW FOR MORE CONVENTIONAL STYLE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THEY HAVE SELECTED THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL USE COMPONENT FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, THEY DO HAVE A COUPLE OF, UM, WAIVERS FROM THAT, UM, ZONING REQUIREMENT OR ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, THEY HAVE REQUESTED TO REMOVE THE LIMITATION OF THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL USER.
SO THE TYPE TWO SITE COMPONENT HAS A, A LIMIT ON THE SIZE BECAUSE IT'S INTENDED TO BE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS.
SO IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE NOT NEXT TO A SUBDIVISION.
SO STAFF SUPPORTING THAT REQUEST.
UM, THEY ALSO ARE REQUESTING THAT, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE STREETS TO CREATE BLOCKS TO MEET THE PERIMETER BLOCK LENGTH REQUIREMENTS.
SO THEY'LL BE USING DRIVES TO DO THAT.
SO THEY'LL HAVE, UM, SOME CONNECTIONS THROUGH THAT.
GO OUT TO 180 3 AND CONNECT BACK TO NORTHLINE.
THEY WON'T NECESSARILY BE A PUBLIC STREET, BUT IT'LL BE A DRIVE THAT'LL MEET THE SAME INTENT AS A PUBLIC STREET.
UM, THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING, UM, A CHANGE TO THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
UM, SO THEY'LL HAVE AN OVERALL STANDARD WHERE IT'S ONE SPACED EVERY 250 SQUARE FEET, UM, OF BUILDING.
AND THEN THEY, THEY DID ADD, UM, A REQUIREMENT THAT THE, UM, SETBACKS ALONG MAIN STREETS.
UM, THEY'LL HAVE A MAXIMUM SETBACK.
SO IT KIND OF MIRRORS THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD WITHIN NORTHLINE TO PROVIDE A MORE COHESIVE DESIGN THERE.
UM, THEIR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
UM, WITH THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE MORE LANDSCAPING BETWEEN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND THE STREET, AND THEY JUST ASK THAT THAT'S KIND OF SPREAD OUT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEY ALSO ASK FOR AN INCREASE IN THE SIGNAGE AND, UH, AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL PROCESS, UM, TO HELP WITH THEIR, UM, ANCHOR STORE RIGHT HERE, THEIR GROCER THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, THIS REQUEST WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION LAST WEEK.
UH, THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST CONTINGENT ON AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THAT AMENDMENT WILL BE CHANGING THE LAND USE CATEGORY FROM LEANDER CENTRAL TO ACTIVITY CENTER.
AND THAT'LL BE GOING BEFORE THE COMMISSION SOON AND THEN TO THE COUNCIL.
UM, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE APPLICANT.
ARE YOU MAKING A PRESENTATION? UH, THEY'RE HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
I DO HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK MARSHALL HINES.
PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MY NAME IS MARSHALL HINES, UH, 1801 MONTANA COURT.
WELL, UH, SIMPLY PUT FOR ME, THREE MINUTES IS NOT REALLY ENOUGH TIME FOR ME TO ENUMERATE ALL OF THE ISSUES WITH THE POD THAT IS BEFORE YOU, BUT I'M GONNA TALK FAST AND TRY TO GET THROUGH A FEW OF THEM.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE AS RESIDENTS OFTEN FOCUS ON SPECIFIC RESTAURANTS OR SHOPS THAT MIGHT COME WITH A DEVELOPMENT, BUT MANY BUSINESSES CAN INHABIT
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A GREAT SPACE OVER TIME.ON THE OTHER HAND, UH, BAD URBAN FORM VERY FREQUENTLY CREATES SINGLE USE SPACES THAT OFTEN NEED TO BE RAISED AND REBUILT TO BREATHE NEW LIFE INTO THEIR PART OF TOWN, WHICH IS COSTLY TO TAXPAYERS AND DETRIMENTAL TO A CITY.
SO I'M GONNA FOCUS MOST OF MY COMMENTS TONIGHT ON THE URBAN FORM THAT THIS PUD WILL CREATE.
THIS PUD INTENDS TO BREAK UP THE STREET NETWORK PLANNED FOR NORTHLINE AND REPLACE IT WITH A SERIES OF DRY VIALS.
THIS WILL NOT BE WALKABLE DESPITE WHAT YOU MIGHT HEAR OTHERWISE.
AND IT PROVIDES NO TRUE PUBLIC SPACE WITHIN THE NEW POD.
THERE ARE MOUNTAINS OF RESEARCH OVER DECADES THAT SHOW HOW CRUCIAL PUBLIC CONTROL OF STREETS IS IN URBAN SPACES.
INCIDENTALLY, I'M VERY HAPPY TO SHARE SUMMARIES AND PROVIDE SOURCES OF THAT RESEARCH.
THE WAY THE POD IS WRITTEN, WHAT WE WILL GET IS A LIGHTLY AMENITIZED PAD SITE, SERIES OF PAD SITES WITH SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE LANDSCAPING.
THE WALKABILITY OF THIS PARCEL WILL BE FAR LOWER THAN WHAT IS PLANNED TODAY AS PART OF NORTHLINE'S POD SPECIFICALLY, UM, WHAT WE WILL GET IS THIS PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT BEING EFFECTIVELY CORDONED OFF FROM THE REST OF NORTHLINE BY HAVING THE DEVELOPMENT PHYSICALLY SEPARATED BY SIGNIFICANT PARKING LOTS.
THERE ARE NO REQUIREMENTS IN THIS P FOR THE DEVELOPER TO ACTIVATE IN ANY OF THE INTERNAL DRY VIALS, WHICH OSTENSIBLY FUNCTION AS STREETS.
UH, THIS IS REALLY MADE POSSIBLE BY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO USE OUR OUTDATED EUCLIDEAN ZONING ORDINANCE AS THE PUDS BASE INSTEAD OF OUR FORM-BASED CODE LIKE THE REST OF NORTHLINE.
AND I THINK THAT'S WORTH SOME DISCUSSION AS WELL.
WE MIGHT ASK OURSELVES WHY IN THE HEART OF, UH, WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE HEART OF LEANDER.
WE WOULD WANT TO BUILD A PUD BASED ON PLANNING PRACTICES FIRMLY ROOTED IN THE PAST CENTURY WHEN AN ALTERNATIVE IS READILY AVAILABLE.
UM, I IMAGINE MUCH OF THE COMMUNITY WOULD AGREE AND BE HAPPY WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE USES THAT, UH, ARE BEING PROPOSED HERE.
BUT THE CHARACTER AND THE PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT SHOULD BE AT ISSUE FOR THE COUNCIL TONIGHT.
AND IT IS AT THE HEART OF WHAT, UH, A CITY SHOULD ACTUALLY MANAGE, UM, BECAUSE IT IS THE THING THAT IS TRULY LASTING, BUT IT'S ONLY LASTING IF WE ENSURE THAT IT IS DONE WELL.
SO THE REAL QUESTION THAT I HOPE THAT YOU AS A COUNCIL WILL ASK TONIGHT IS, DOES THIS PUD PRESENTED TO YOU, PROVIDE THE ONLY SOLUTION AVAILABLE AND IS SO DRASTIC A CHANGE TO THE PACT THAT WAS MADE WITH THE CITIZENS OF PHILANDER TO BUILD A WALKABLE DOWNTOWN WARRANTED JUST TO JUICE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT SPEED.
SO I'LL THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SHARE MY CONCERNS AND CONCERNS THAT I THINK MANY OTHER RESIDENTS WOULD SHARE IF THEY UNDERSTOOD THE COMPLEXITIES OF THIS.
AND IN MY LAST COUPLE OF SECONDS, I WILL SAY IN RESPONSE TO SOME THINGS YOU HEARD EARLIER, THERE ARE A GREAT, MANY INDUSTRY UNDERSTOOD, UM, STANDARDS ABOUT WHAT WALKABILITY IS.
THERE ISN'T ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
WE'LL NOW DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z DASH 24 DASH 0 1 27 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY.
COUNSEL, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE, WHAT, WHAT ARE THOSE STREETS CALLED? SORRY, NOT THE PUBLIC STREETS, BUT THE CONNECTION.
UH, IT'S, DOES THAT INCLUDE SIDEWALKS OR NO, DO THE DRIVE AISLES? THE, THE I GUESS WHICH DRIVE AISLES? ALL OF THEM.
ANY OF THEM? UH, WELL, I THINK THAT AS CONTEMPLATED WE WILL HAVE SIDEWALKS WHERE WE BELIEVE THEY'RE APPROPRIATE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE SIDEWALKS TAKING PEOPLE OUT ONTO, UH, TO 180 3.
AND, AND SO, UM, I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF TALKING ABOUT THE INTERIOR CONNECTING TO THE EXTERIOR AND THE, THE WALKABILITY OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER INTERPRETATION WOULD YEAH.
I USED MY ANSWER TO THAT WOULD BE THAT, UH, PART OF THE SUCCESS OF THE RETAIL WILL BE PREDICATED UPON ACCESSIBILITY FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECT.
FROM, UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT 16 ACRES OR PART OF A, A MUCH LARGER DEVELOPMENT THAT OVER TIME, UH, WILL ALREADY INCLUDES THE DENSITY AND OVER TIME WILL INCLUDE MORE DENSITY.
AND SO BEING ABLE TO GET, UH, NOT ONLY RESIDENTS IN LEANDRO WHO DON'T LIVE IN NORTHLINE TO THE, UH, ACTIVITY WILL BE IMPORTANT, BUT ALSO CREATING, UH, PATHWAYS AND CONVENIENCE FOR THOSE THAT ARE, UH, LIVING AND WORKING AND PLAYING IN NORTHLINE WILL BE IMPORTANT TOO.
AND SO, WHILE I DON'T HAVE A DIRECT MAP, UH, MAP OR ROUTE TO SHOW YOU HOW THAT WOULD WORK, UH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UH, DRIVING RETAIL SALES CAN BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE PROJECT.
AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS MAKE IT CONVENIENT FOR EVERYBODY.
SO THAT WOULD BE CONDUCIVE TO INCLUDING SOME SIDEWALKS IN THAT AREA.
AND I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE, DO WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT SINCE IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A CITY STREET? WE DON'T OKAY.
HAVE REQUIREMENTS IN OUR CURRENT CODE FOR THAT.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE POD IF, IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANNA REQUIRE.
I THINK IT'S WORTH DISCUSSION ANYWAY.
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? WELL, I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION.SO, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T HAVE, I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE, THE MAP OF THE SITE THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A KIND OF A LAYOUT OF WHAT THE SITE KIND OF IS TENTATIVELY LOOKING LIKE IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE AND EVERYTHING.
AND, AND I WOULD IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ADDRESSING SOME OF MR. HEINZ'S CONCERNS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IS IT GONNA HAVE SOME KIND OF INTERIOR ACCESS TO DRAW PEOPLE TO IT FROM THE, THE, THE, THE HOUSING FROM ALL THE STUFF THERE? SO IT'S, PEOPLE CAN WALK THERE AND FROM THE HO THE POSSIBLE HOTEL AND ALL THE OTHER, THE CORE PART OUT TO THE EXTERIOR PART, WHILE ALSO HAVING A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GET IN FROM THE HEAVY TRAFFIC 180 3 INTO IT.
SO I THINK WHEN YOU'RE DEVELOPING THIS AND YOU'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS OPTION ON THIS OTHER AREA, I MEAN, IS YOUR GOAL TO MAKE IT KIND OF CONTIGUOUS SO IT ALL KIND OF FLOWS TOGETHER AND PEOPLE CAN FLOW IN AND OUT FROM EACH DIRECTION? I GUESS THAT'S MY, KINDA MY DESIGN QUESTION FOR YOU ON IT.
'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE HEART OF, I GUESS SOME OF THE, UH, THE, THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.
SO AT THE RISK OF REPEATING, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT I JUST SAID, I THINK THAT, UH, UH, A SUCCESSFUL RETAIL PROJECT HAS, UH, ACCESS CONVENIENCE FOR EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO BE THERE.
AND OVER TIME, OUR INVOLVEMENT IN NORTHLINE IS PREDICATED ON OUR ABILITY TO NOT JUST DELIVER THIS 16 ACRES, BUT ALSO, UH, DENSITY AND FUTURE PHASES.
AND SO CREATING WAYS FOR NOT JUST, UH, POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS WHO ARE OUTSIDE OF NORTHLINE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE RETAIL, BUT ALSO THOSE THAT ARE ALREADY CURRENTLY THERE IN THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE ON SITE OR TOWN HOMES, UH, OR, OR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PHASES.
THAT'LL BE, UH, VERY IMPORTANT TO US AND SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WILL, UH, PLACE GREAT CONSIDERATION IN DOING.
UM, I HAD A QUESTION FOR, UM, MS. GRIFFIN.
SORRY, I NEED YOU TO TRANSLATE APART FOR ME.
THE PARKING AISLE LOADING CANOPIES AND OUTDOOR DISPLAY SETBACKS ARE PROPOSED TO BE REDUCED FROM 15 FEET TO 10 FEET ALONG SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY AND 180 3 A TOLL ROAD.
I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT MEANS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S NO PARKING ALONG THOSE ROADS.
SO THE, THE WAY OUR ORDINANCE WORKS, UM, WE HAVE PARKING SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
SO THIS, THE WAY THIS IS PHRASED DOESN'T, IT'S A LITTLE UNCLEAR.
I SEE WHY YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, SO IF THEY HAVE A PARKING LOT THAT'S ALONG THE TOLL ROAD, THIS IS SPEAKING TO THE SETBACK.
SO NORMALLY THAT'S 15 FEET AND THEY'RE ASKING TO REDUCE IT TO 10 FEET.
SO THEY'RE JUST GOING, THEIR PARKING LOT WILL BE CLOSER TO THE ROAD THAT'S, IT'S NOT PARKING ON THE ROAD.
WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADD ANOTHER WORD IN THERE TO CLARIFY THAT AS LONG AS Y'ALL KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.
AND THEN, SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY SMALLER SPACES OR ANYTHING? NO.
NO, THAT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE READS AUSTIN PARKING SPACES THAT ARE THIS WIDE THAT YOU HAVE TO BACK INTO.
COUNCIL, ANYTHING ELSE? SOMEBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? NO, I JUST, I JUST WANT, I GUESS ONE MORE QUICK ONE.
I WANNA HAVE A, IT WOULD SOUND ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU SO YOU CAN SIT, UH, YOU'VE HAD A LONG NIGHT SO FAR,
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING ALSO THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT, LIKE, UH, PRIOR.
I MEAN, EVEN WITH PRIOR STAFF MEMBERS, PRIOR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE'VE, LIKE, SOMETHING LIKE THIS WAS PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO HAPPEN ON THE PERIPHERAL AT SOME POINT TOO.
AND SO BEST CHANCE FOR SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY BE COMING TOGETHER AT SOME POINT IS POTENTIALLY WORKING WITH SOMEBODY THAT'S GONNA WORK ON BOTH THOSE PIECES, DIDN'T WANT THEM TO CONNECT TO.
SO, UM, YEAH, I KNOW WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL WAITING FOR THOSE THINGS.
I THINK I JUST NEED TO RESTATE THAT AS, AS WELL TOO, THAT THIS ISN'T JUST SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR QUITE A WHILE.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE AND ALSO WITH THE CONDITION THAT, UH, PNZ CAME UP WITH, UH, WITH MAKING SURE THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT COMES FORTH.
PROAM, DID YOU, JUST A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THE, THE SIDEWALKS IN THERE THAT THERE IS SOME, HOWEVER WE HAVE TO WORD IT TO, TO HAVE THIS APPROVED THAT THERE IS.
YES, ROBIN, HOW DO WE DO THAT? MAYBE WE COULD WORK WITH, UM, ENDEAVOR BETWEEN NOW AND THEN TO COME UP WITH SOME LANGUAGE.
UM, 'CAUSE IT, IT MAY NOT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE SIDEWALKS ON EVERY SINGLE PROFILE.
WE COULD PROBABLY COME UP WITH A, A COMPROMISE, SOME SORT OF ACCESS MM-HMM.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[38. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Ordinance Case OR-24-0017 to amend the Subdivision Ordinance to adopt updates to the Parkland Dedication, Park Improvement, and Parkland Fee-in-Lieu regulations and requirements, and to provide for related matters; Williamson & Travis Counties, Texas.
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PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ORDINANCE CASE OR DASH 24 DASH 0 0 1 7 TO AMEND THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE TO ADOPT UPDATES TO THE PARKLAND DEDICATION PARK, IMPROVEMENT IN PARKLAND FEE IN LIEU REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS, AND TO PROVIDE FOR RELATED MATTERS.WILLIAMSON AND TRAVIS COUNTIES, TEXAS.
GOOD EVENING PARKS DIRECTOR CUMMINS.
COUNSEL, THANK YOU FOR, UM, HAVING US BACK AND WORKING THROUGH THIS OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
SO, UH, WE'RE, UM, HAVE WORKED WITH OUR SIT COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE.
THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF THAT.
WE'VE WORKED WITH THE HOME BUILDER ASSOCIATION, UH, STAFF, INCLUDING OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF, AND, UH, MS. GRIFFIN IN PARTICULAR, THANK YOU FOR GETTING US TO THIS POINT, AND THANK YOU ALL.
I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH A FEW SLIDES VERY QUICKLY, THEN WE WILL, I'LL, I'LL SIT BACK AND WAIT FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THEN WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION, UH, AFTER THAT.
SO, UM, SOME OF THIS, MOST OF THIS YOU HAVE SEEN PREVIOUSLY, SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE, UM, ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE WE HAVE INCREASED THE, UH, NUMBER OF PARK ACRES IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WITH HORIZON LAKE BEING ONE OF THOSE, UH, ADDITIONS TO DIVINE LAKES.
SO WE ARE NOW AT 537 ACRES OF PARKLAND, AND EACH ACRE SERVES ABOUT 167 RESIDENTS, AND THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 58 DU PER ACRE.
UM, YOU CAN, WE'VE, WE'VE EXPLAINED THE GEOGRAPHIC NEXUS, UH, PREVIOUSLY THE SINGLE TRACK OF LAND THAT'S GONNA INCREASE FROM THREE ACRES TO SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES.
AND THE STANDARDS FOR LAND ACCEPTANCE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE ARE AS WELL, CREDIT FOR PRIVATE PARKLAND AND AMENITIES.
I WANNA TOUCH ON THAT JUST, JUST FOR A FEW MINUTES THAT, UH, IF YOU'LL LOOK IN THE MORE OF THE MIDDLE OF THE PARAGRAPH, NOT TO EXCEED 50% OF THE FEE IN LIEU, UH, OF, OR PARK OR PUBLIC PARKLAND DEDICATION AND PUBLIC PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
THE REMAINING 50% WILL BE PLACED IN PARKLAND DEDICATION FUND TO DEVELOP PUBLIC PARKS.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.
ON THE LAST SLIDE, UH, WE'VE RE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT OF THE CREDITS FOR SLOPES, FLOODPLAINS AND DETENTION PONDS FOR TWO TO ONE BASIS, TO A THREE TO ONE BASIS.
AND THE CREDIT FOR PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PARKS THAT THE DEVELOPERS PROVIDE.
UH, IF THE DEVELOPER IS PROVIDING PUBLIC PARKS, THEY CAN RECEIVE UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT CREDIT WITH THEIR FEE IN LIEU AND THEIR PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE.
WE'VE TOUCHED ON THE ETJ EARLIER THIS SPRING, THE TIME LIMIT FOR EXPENDITURES AS WELL.
AND WE'VE ADDED THE FREQUENCY OF ORDINANCE REVIEWS, WHICH WILL BE EVERY THREE YEARS BY CITY COUNCIL.
THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE CURRENT LANGUAGE, THE PUBLIC ART FUND, THEY WILL STILL RECEIVE 15% OF THE FEE IN LIE.
SO THAT SHOULD ALSO INCREASE THEIR FUNDING FOR PUBLIC ART AS WELL.
THIS IS THE SORT OF THE CRITICAL POINT, AND I WANNA DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IT AND WALK THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS THE CRITICAL POINT WHERE, UM, BACK IN THE SPRING WE HAD SOME, SOME ISSUES AND WE'VE WORKED WITH, LIKE I SAID, OUR COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE AND HBA.
UH, SO WE BEGAN TO TAKE AND LOOK AT HOW THAT CALCULATION, UH, COULD BE DONE.
AND WE LOOKED AT IT FROM DERIVING THE PRIOR CERTIFIED TAX YEARS BY AN APPRAISAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND TRAVIS COUNTY, UH, AUTHORIZED TO ASSIGN VALUE TO TRACKS OF LAND.
AND THEN WE DID THE CALCULATION.
WE HAVE OUR FORMULA THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED AND, UM, HOW THAT DEVELOPER SHOULD PAY THE FEE IN LIEU PRIOR TO FINAL PLAT OR SHORT FORM PLAT.
THIS IS HOW, THIS IS SORT OF THE, NOT SORT OF, IT IS THE CALCULATION HOW WE GOT TO THAT POINT.
OUR PROPOSED AMOUNT OF FEE IN LIEU IS $1,676 AND 60 CENTS IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY PER DEVELOPMENT UNIT AND 23 55 13 FOR DEVELOPMENT UNIT IN TRAVIS COUNTY.
UM, WE CAN GO THROUGH ALL THE FIGURES, BUT YOU CAN SEE FROM 22, 23 AND 24 AND HOW WE DERIVED AT THOSE NUMBERS.
AND THEN WE DIVIDED THAT OBVIOUSLY BY THE THREE YEARS.
YOU CAN CHECK OUT THOSE INFORMATION.
IT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE, UH, THROUGH THE WILLIAMS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND THE TRAVIS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
OUR PARK IMPROVEMENT FEE, WE BASED IT ON LAKEWOOD PARK, WHICH WAS APPROXIMATELY EIGHT, WELL, IT WAS $8.2 MILLION.
UH, BASICALLY $82,000 AN ACRE.
82 DIVIDED BY THE NUMBER OF DU COMES UP WITH $1,400 PER DU IN PARK DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE, WE'VE REQUESTING THAT THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE BE $1,400 PER DEVELOPMENT UNIT.
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THE, WHERE THE SUMMATION OPTION ONE FOR A DEVELOPER IS IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA DEVELOP ANY PARKLAND DEDICATION OR ANY PUBLIC PARK IMPROVEMENTS, PRIVATE OR PRIVATE OR PUBLIC PARK IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THE FEE IN LIEU AND LAND DEDICATION AND THE PARK IMPROVEMENT FEES SHALL BE PAID TO THE CITY.OPTION TWO IS PARKLAND DEDICATION WITH PRIVATELY OWNED AND MAINTAINED PARKLAND FEE.
THIS IS WHERE I MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT AGO, UH, THAT FEE IN LIEU WILL BE 50% TO BE USED BY THE DEVELOPER, AND 50% WILL BE PAID TO THE CITY.
OPTION THREE IS THE DEDICATION WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AS A PUBLIC PARK.
THAT FEE IN LIEU PLUS PARK IMPROVEMENTS FEE CAN BE USED UP TO 100% WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT AND CAN BE CREDITED IF PARK AND FACILITIES ARE OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AT LARGE.
AND OPTION FOUR, THIS IS A, A REALLY, I DON'T KNOW, I I SORT OF CATCH IT, USE IT AS A CATCHALL, BUT IT'S MORE THAN EVEN A CATCHALL.
IT ALLOWS THE CITY AND DEVELOPERS TO REALLY HAVE CONVERSATION.
UM, I SHARED THAT WITH OUR, OUR COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT I ALSO SHARED IT VERY MUCH WITH OUR H-B-H-B-A.
UM, THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS THOSE PERIODS OR THOSE TIMES THAT HAPPEN THAT A DEALER MAY HAVE AN, A UNIQUE SITUATION AND WE DON'T WANT TO, UH, DISMISS AND JUST SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOCKED INTO THESE THREE AREAS.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK AND NEGOTIATE HOW THAT, HOW THAT PARKLAND MAY LOOK.
UM, THERE COULD BE OPPORTUNITIES, AND I, I'M REALLY THINKING MORE ALONG THE LINES OF CONNECTIONS WITHIN, UH, THE, THE CITY.
IT COULD BE TRAIL CONNECTIONS AND CORRIDOR CONNECTIONS, UM, AND HOW DO THOSE LOOK? AND SO, UM, IF YOU CAN USE PART OF THAT FEE, AND WE CAN CONTINUE ON PART OF THE FEE FOR A TRAIL, YOU KNOW, ON THE, ON THE, UH, DEVELOPER SIDE.
BUT WE CAN USE PART OF THE FEE ALSO TO CONTINUE THE TRAIL THROUGH RIGHT OF WAY OR OTHER PARK AREA OR EVEN STATE AREA.
IT'S GONNA HELP US IN THE LONG RUN.
SO I DIDN'T WANT TO JUST DISMISS.
WE HAD ANOTHER PROJECT WHERE THE DEVELOPER WASN'T GONNA DO ANYTHING ON THEIR PROPERTY PER, PER SE, BUT THEY WANTED TO DONATE SOME OTHER PROPERTY THEY HAD FOR PARKLAND.
THOSE ARE WHERE THIS COMES IN.
THIS IS AN ALLOW, ALLOWS US TO REALLY HAVE THAT, THAT DISCUSSION AND THAT, UM, NEGOTIATION, UH, AND HOW THAT CAN LOOK AND REALLY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
OH, AND WITH THAT, I'LL, UH, TAKE A SEAT AND OPEN IT FOR THANK YOU.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
THERE'S NOBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL NOW DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ORDINANCE CASE OR DASH 24 DASH ZERO SEVEN AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY.
COUNSEL JUST, UH, BEING PART OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, THANK YOU TO STAFF, EVERYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED, EVEN PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT HERE.
UM, US GIVING OUR TIME AND ALSO DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY ON COMING TOGETHER.
THIS WAS REALLY A COLLABORATION AND SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG, BUT I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE, WE TOOK AS LONG AS WE NEEDED TO, TO GET IT RIGHT.
AND SO NOW WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT THE, THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL ALL ARE KIND OF THE SAME PAGE WITH.
IT'S A LOT MORE, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE STREAMLINED, EASIER TO UNDERSTAND.
AND OPTION FOUR, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT.
IT DOES, IT DOESN'T HAMSTRING SOMEBODY IN A, IN A, IN A SITUATION.
AND IT ALLOWS US TO WORK TOGETHER.
SO ANY EFFORTS TO WORK TOGETHER, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, UM, FOR ALL THE EFFORT THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS.
I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LOT, A LOT OF HOURS AND PROBABLY A LITTLE FRUSTRATION HERE OR THERE WHEN THINGS DIDN'T GO ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, BUT I JUST THANK YOU FOR THAT AND, UM, PRIVILEGE TO BE A PART OF IT.
AND DOES, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? I THINK THAT WAS NICELY STATED AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
I THINK THIS IS VERY THOUGHTFUL.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I'LL SECOND, I'LL SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[39. Discuss and consider action on Development Agreement Case DA-24-0010 Valor School Development Agreement located on one (1) parcel of land approximately 13.796 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R430223; generally located northwest of the intersection of Kauffman Loop and CR 267, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.]
REGULAR AGENDA, ITEM 39, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CASE DA DASH 24 DASH 0 1 0 VALOR SCHOOL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT LOCATED ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 13.796 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA.EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UM, SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE VALOR SCHOOL.
UM, IN THIS SITUATION, THERE IS A TIMING ISSUE WITH THE PROJECT.
UM, THEY HAVE TO BE OPEN, UH, PRETTY QUICKLY.
UH, SO THEY HAVE PROPOSED A PHASING PLAN FOR THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH KAUFMAN LOOP AND C 2 67.
UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING AN INTERSECTION, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, A SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION AS WELL AS A TURN LANE.
AND WHAT THEY'RE ASKING IS FOR THE CITY TO ALLOW 'EM TO START, UH, WORK ON THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANS WHILE THEY'RE STILL WRAPPING UP THEIR CONSTRUCTION PLANS.
SO THE GOAL IS THEY'LL ALL BE FINISHED AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THEY WILL BE RECORDING THEIR PLA BEFORE THE PLANS ARE COMPLETED.
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A FISCAL PAYMENT TO THE CITY IN THE EVENT THEY DON'T FINISH THE PLANS, WE'LL HAVE THE FUNDS TO GO INSTALL THE IMPROVEMENTS AS NEEDED.IT'S JUST A LITTLE UNIQUE WHEN IT COMES TO THE TIMING.
THEY'RE ALSO ASKING, UM, TO ESTABLISH THE ROADWAY ADEQUACY PAYMENT AMOUNT, UM, BASED ON ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY AND, UM, ADDING MASONRY STANDARDS.
UM, AND I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THE DEVELOPER'S ALSO HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
NO MOTION TO APPROVE? NO, JUST I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SECOND, BUT ALSO I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
JUST, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT JUST TO KNOW THAT THAT POSTING PHYSICAL, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY MORE THAN NORMAL, UM, ON THAT TOO.
SO THIS IS LIKE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE OUT IN, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE COVERING OURSELVES BY THEM DOING THIS, RIGHT? SO LET'S ALL WORK TOGETHER AND GET THIS THING GOING.
SO WE GET EVERYBODY OFF OF CRYSTAL FALLS AND, AND BAGHDAD ROAD TOO, RIGHT?
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[40. Receive a presentation regarding a Development Proposal Review regarding a petition for a Comprehensive Plan Amendment for a residential development located northwest of the intersection of CR 175 and Journey Parkway, Leander, Texas, Williamson County.]
NUMBER 40.RECEIVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL REVIEW REGARDING A PETITION FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT LOCATED NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF CR 1 75 AND JOURNEY PARKWAY.
LEANDRO, TEXAS, WILLIAMSON COUNTY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, GRIFFIN.
UM, SO THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL REVIEW.
UM, JUST TO REMIND THE, THE COUNCIL, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DEVELOPER TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT A CHANGE TO A FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
UM, WE'RE NOT MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT ZONING 'CAUSE WE DID NOT DO A PUBLIC NOTICE FOR THAT.
AND WITH THAT, UM, ETHAN IS HERE TO GIVE US A AMAZING PRESENTATION.
I'M A PLANNER WITH KIMLEY HORN.
UH, WE'RE CIVIL ENGINEERS ON A, ON THIS PROJECT FOR MI HOMES.
UH, THIS EVENING WITH ME, I HAVE ROYCE RIPPY FROM MI HOMES AND ALEX GR, UH, ARE CIVIL.
SO ROYCE AND HIS TEAM, OH, ROYCE AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN BUILDING HERE IN LAND FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
IN FACT, UM, I'LL POINT OUT IN JUST A MOMENT.
UH, THEY'VE DEVELOPED THE TWO SUBDIVISIONS DIRECTLY ADJACENT, UH, TO THE PROPERTIES WE'RE GONNA BE SPEAKING ABOUT THIS EVENING.
THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SIMPSON FAMILY, UH, TO PURCHASE TWO UH, PROPERTIES AT THE CORNER OF 1 75 IN JOURNEY PARKWAY.
UH, ONE IS 52 ACRES, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS EVENING.
THE OTHER IS 28 ACRES, UH, RIGHT OFF CR 1 75.
THAT'S NOT REALLY OUR, OUR SUBJECT THIS EVENING, BUT WE WANTED TO SHARE THE PLANS FOR THAT TRACK WITH YOU.
UM, JUST TO HELP YOU GIVE A, GIVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IN MY HOMES IS LOOKING AT DOING HERE IN THE AREA.
UM, BOTH THE TRACKS WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS EVENING THOUGH, UH, MI IS PROPOSING, UH, 70 FOOT LOTS.
THOSE COME OUT TO ROUGHLY QUARTER ACRE HOMES.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT 178 ON ONE TRACT AND 85 ON THE SMALLER TRACT.
UM, THESE WILL ALL COME WITH I'S, UH, STANDARD SUITE OF AMENITIES, UH, ONSITE OPEN SPACE, AND THEN OF COURSE ATTRACTIVE LANDSCAPING, UH, AND BOUNDARY WALLS AND THAT SORT OF A THING.
SO THE TWO TRACKS, I'LL POINT OUT THE SMALLER ONE, THE 28 ACRE TRACT, AS YOU'LL SEE IN JUST A MOMENT, UH, DOES NOT NEED A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT, BUT MI HOMES IS UNDER CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.
UH, BUT IT HAS FRONTED DIRECTLY ON CR 1 75, UH, AND WILL BE BUILT OUT ESSENTIALLY AS A CONTINUATION OF THE SUBDIVISION NEXT DOOR.
WE DO HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU ON THE FUTURE FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING ON THAT TRACT.
UM, BUT, BUT THAT IS PART OF THIS ENDEAVOR.
UH, THE OTHER TRACT THERE IN YELLOW, THE 52 ACRE TRACT, UH, WITH THE EXISTING HOMESTEADS, THAT'S A SUBJECT TO OUR CONVERSATION THIS EVENING.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE, THE CONSTRAINTS WE'RE FACING AS WE APPROACH DEVELOPMENT HERE AND, AND HOW WHAT WE SEE IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE, UH, ON THIS PROPERTY.
SO THE 28 ACRES, AS I MENTIONED, IS ALREADY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
UH, AND A PORTION OF THE 52 ACRES ALREADY IS, UH, WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP CALLS FOR.
HERE IS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER RIGHT THERE AT THE HARD CORNER OF CR 1 75 AND, AND JOURNEY PARKWAY.
UH, BUT OF COURSE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN WE'VE SEEN ALONG CR 1 75 IS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL, AND IT'S REALLY TURNING INTO, UH, A CORRIDOR, UH, THAT SUPPORTS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FROM 2243 DOWN TO, TO NEW HOPE IN 1431.
IT RUNS ROUGHLY A MILE TO A MILE AND A HALF PARALLEL FROM REAGAN, WHICH IS REALLY THE PRIMARY COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, UH, IN THIS AREA.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE, THERE WE GO.
WHEN WE, WE LOOK AT THE SITE AND THE STRENGTHS THAT WE'RE FACING THE SITE, UH, THE FIRST THING THAT STANDS OUT TO YOU IS OF COURSE, UH, THE EXTENS OF PARKSIDE PARKWAY THROUGH THE SITE.
UM, WE'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSTRUCTING THE FULL WIDTH OF THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE FULL PAVEMENT, UH, TO COMPLETE PARKSIDE PARKWAY.
THE BARK PARKSIDE PARKSIDE PARKSIDE PARKWAY WILL COME THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT, UH, INTO THE BARKSDALE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IN MY HOMES IS ALREADY UNDER DEVELOPMENT ON TODAY.
UH, THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN THE DEVELOPERS OF THE LOST WOODS SUBDIVISION DOWN HERE OPPOSITE,
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UH, THIS PROPERTY ON JOURNEY PARKWAY.SECOND THING I'LL POINT OUT, UM, IS THIS NATURAL DRAINAGE WAY, UM, THAT THE DRAINS REALLY THIS AREA HERE DOWN TO BRUSHY CREEK.
UM, IF YOU'LL NOTICE ALL THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, UM, HAVE PLACED THEIR DETENTION PONDS RIGHT HERE AT THIS CORNER, JUST BECAUSE THAT IS THE NATURAL PLACE AND BEST PLACE FOR DETENTION ON THESE PROPERTIES.
UM, IRONICALLY ENOUGH, THE INTERSECTION OF JOURNEY PARKWAY AND SIR 1 75 IS NEARLY BUILT RIGHT ON TOP OF THAT NATURAL DRAINAGE WAY, WHICH HAS LED TO THIS INTERESTING CONFIGURATION WITH THE, THE PONDS ON ALL SIDES.
LAST THING I WANNA POINT OUT IS THE, THE INTERESTING TRANSPORTATION SITUATION HERE.
JOURNEY IN CR 1 75 HERE ARE BUILT OUT AS VERY LARGE ROADS WITH MEDIANS.
UM, BUT WE'RE SURROUNDED BY FOUR DIFFERENT SCHOOLS.
AND THIS INTERSECTION HERE, UM, IS ACTUALLY ONE LARGE SCHOOL ZONE, UM, WHICH HAS MADE IT INTERESTING FOR ME TO GET HOME SOMETIMES.
SO THE 20, UH, I MENTIONED EARLIER, IF THE 22, 28 ACRES WILL BE BUILT OUT, UM, UH, IN A VERY SIMILAR PATTERN TO THE SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH WITH THOSE QUARTER ACRE, 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS.
AND OUR PLAN FOR THE 52 ACRE TRACT IS, IS VERY MUCH SO SIMILAR.
UM, WE WOULD HAVE QUARTER ACRE LOTS.
WE HAVE NOT LOTTED IT OUT YET.
UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE NATURAL LOCATIONS FOR DETENTION, UH, HERE ON THAT HARD CORNER.
UH, THE SITES THEN BISECTED BY PARKSIDE PARKWAY, AND THEN DETENTION HERE ALONG THE EXISTING, UH, BARKSDALE SUBDIVISION.
SO, UH, THOSE ARE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, BUT WE'RE REALLY HERE TONIGHT FOR IS YOUR FEEDBACK AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
SOMEBODY ELSE GO FIRST ON THIS.
I DEFINITELY HAVE A QUESTION OR TWO, BUT UNLESS ANYBODY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING, THEN I'LL GO.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT'S SET UP AS AN ACTIVITY CENTER, RIGHT? NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, YES, SIR.
AND SO BY TURNING IT INTO HOMES AND EVERYTHING, I MEAN, THAT WHOLE AREA IS GONNA BE NOTHING BUT HOUSES, ISN'T IT? YES, SIR.
SO IT'S VERY INTERESTING FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, WHAT YOU'VE GOT GOING ON IN THIS CORNER, EXCUSE ME.
WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE FUTURE.
LAND USE MAP IS REALLY, UM, KIND OF AN ICE.
WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP CALLS FOR IS AN ISOLATED POCKET OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THIS CORNER.
UM, IN SOME WAYS THAT COULD BE GOOD.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF I THINK IF THIS PROPERTY WAS MORE SUITABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, YOU COULD END UP WITH A NICE SMALL, UH, SHOPPING CENTER THAT MAY DEVELOP IN 10, 15 YEARS WHEN THERE'S MORE DEMAND FOR RETAIL, UH, ONCE RONALD REAGAN IS, IS BUILT OUT.
UM, BUT WITH THE CONSTRAINTS WE HAVE WITH THE DRAINAGE WAY IN THE HARD CORNER, THE DIFFICULT ACCESS, THE SCHOOL ZONES, UH, WE REALLY SEE THIS AS A VERY DIFFICULT SITE TO PUT, UH, ANY SORT OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING RETAILER COMMERCIAL.
I THINK IT'S VERY LIKELY IF WE DID INCLUDE A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT HERE, UM, IT, IT VERY LIKELY COULD JUST BE ANOTHER GAS STATION.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE THOUGHTS? NO, JUST OVERALL, MY, UH, AS, AS YOU COME UP TOO, JUST PIGGYBACKING OFF OF THAT, UM, IS JUST THE CONCERN IS, IF NOT HERE, THEN WE BASICALLY GIVE UP OUR ABILITY TO HAVE ANY TYPE OF COMMERCIAL ON THAT CORRIDOR.
SO WE'RE ONLY ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF SOUTH OF 2243.
I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN SOME REQUESTS, UH, TO MODIFY THE FUTURE LAND USE IN THAT EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
UM, BUT THAT WILL BE BUILT OUT AS AN INCREDIBLY LARGE ROADWAY.
UM, AND THEN YOU'RE ONLY A MILE AND A HALF SOUTH OF NEW HOPE IN 1431, WHICH IS OF COURSE CEDAR PARK.
THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US THOUGH.
YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE BUILDING THOUSANDS OF HOUSES JUST NORTH THERE RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE, THEY'VE TORE THAT ALL OUT AND THEY'RE BUILDING ALL THAT, AND THEN BASICALLY THOSE PEOPLE HAVE TO GO DOWN TO WHITESTONE OR DOWN IN THAT AREA TO GET GROCERIES, GAS OR ANYTHING, OR GO OVER TO RONALD REAGAN RIGHT THERE.
AND SO IT, IT JUST SEEMS KIND OF LIKE WE NEED TO LOOK AT, I, I WOULD SUGGEST WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND, AND DECIDE IF THIS FITS WITH WHAT OUR OVERALL PLAN FOR THE WHOLE AREA IS.
AND INSTEAD OF MAKING SMALL CHANGES TO THIS AND THAT AND KIND OF END UP WITH A SEA OF HOMES, WE HAVE AREAS IN, IN THE CITY WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE THEY CAN REALLY SHOP WITHOUT DRIVING HALFWAY ACROSS TOWN.
AND THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THIS.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING? ROYCE RUPE WITH MI HOMES? UH, WITH MI, WE WERE HERE IN THE SAME SITUATION PROBABLY SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AGO, UH, WORKING ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP MADE A, I GUESS HALF CIRCLE, IF YOU WILL.
AND WE, UM, CAME TO CITY COUNCIL, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF WE MADE IT TO CITY COUNCIL, BUT P AND T, UM, WITH A HIGH DENSITY SMALL LOCAL COMMERCIAL.
AND THE NEIGHBORS, UH, THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WAS PACKED.
UH, THE NEIGHBORS WERE VERY MUCH AGAINST
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THAT.AND SO WE ENDED UP GOING BACK TO THE TABLE, COMING BACK TO SEE Y'ALL, AND HAD 50 AND 60 FOOT LOTS APPROVED THERE.
AND SO I, I THINK WE MIGHT SEE A SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE THE NEIGHBORS WOULD NOT SUPPORT, UM, A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
BUT, UH, ANYWAY, WE WERE, WE WANTED TO COME PRESENT Y'ALL FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL GO VISIT WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE FEEDBACK.
AND LIKE ETHAN SAID, WE'LL BE HERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE MANY MORE, UH, PRESENTATIONS THAT WE'LL HAVE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, BUT JUST WANT TO GET SOME FEEDBACK.
I DON'T WANT, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT BACKGROUND THAT, UH, I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE AND, AND TRIED TO DO A HIGHER DENSITY, UH, WITH SOME COMMERCIAL, AND IT, IT DIDN'T TURN OUT VERY WELL.
SO, UH, ANYWAY, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO STICK WITH LARGER LOTS THIS TIME BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE GOING ON.
SO OUR PLAN IS WE WOULD LOVE TO BUILD 70 FOOT LOT SUBDIVISION THERE.
I JUST WANTED TO PRO PROVIDE THAT BACKGROUND.
YOU WANT ME TO KEEP GOING THERE? YOU GUYS WANT YOU GO AHEAD.
YEAH, NO, WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S, IT'S TOUGH FOR COUNCIL UP HERE BECAUSE THERE'S, WHEN EVERYBODY GETS INVOLVED AND EVERYTHING GETS EMOTIONAL AND IT'S HARD, YOU CAN HAVE ONE THING SET AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE YOUR MINDSET AND SAYING, THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, AND THEN THIS PLACE COMES WITH 200 PEOPLE.
AND THEN MAYBE I SHOULD, MAYBE I SHOULD CHANGE MY MIND HERE TOO, BUT IT'S LIKE, HOPEFULLY WHAT YOU'VE SEEN TONIGHT IS REGARDLESS, THIS COUNCIL IS READY TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS, EVEN IF IT'S NOT POPULAR.
UM, AND IF IT'S THE BEST THING FOR THE CITY AND THE WAY TO MOVE IT FORWARD, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, WHETHER THAT'S A HUGE DEVELOPMENT, THAT WAS GONNA BE ONE WAY.
AND WHAT'S NEEDED TO GIVE YOU A CATALYST TO GET IT GROWING IS YOU MAKE THIS DECISION.
AND THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT IT'S MAYBE THE ONLY WAY TO ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING GOING, OTHERWISE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
UM, OR IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, UM, PART OF THE THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO, I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO NO MATTER WHAT.
PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE TO DRIVE SOMEWHERE TOO, BUT THEN THEY HAVE TO DRIVE AS FAR TO GET SOMETHING, THEN MAYBE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE IT TO SOME OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS TOO.
UM, YOU'RE HEARING THIS FROM A GUY WHO WORKS FOR A HOME BUILDER AND WHO'S ALWAYS DONE THOSE, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, IT'S HARD BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.
I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IT'S, UH, IT, IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE BEST USE THERE.
UH, TIME WILL TELL MAYBE ON THAT SITUATION, BUT FOR THIS COUNCIL, IT'S, THE HARD PART IS ACTUALLY TAKING THAT HAT OFF AND PUTTING THE OTHER HAT ON AND SAYING, IS IT IS, DO WE KNOW THAT'S TRUE? AND DO WE WANT TO, DO WE WANNA SET THAT IN STONE AND MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA BE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THAT CHANCE BACK? THAT'S THE LAST CHANCE.
AND WHETHER MAYBE THAT COUNCIL AT THAT TIME MADE A DECISION BASED ON WHAT THEY HAD IN FRONT OF THEM AND WHERE THEY'RE AT AND WHAT, HOW, HOW MANY HOMES ARE OVER THERE AND, AND EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT THIS, THIS COUNCIL'S LOOKING AT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, WHICH IS WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE EVERY SINGLE LAST PIECE OF POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN THE CITY THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN.
UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF IT HAS ACTUALLY GOTTEN, THERE IS MULTIFAMILY AND THERE'S RESIDENTIAL USES ON AREAS WE SHOULD HAVE PRESERVED.
AND THAT'S NO KNOCK AGAINST ANYBODY ELSE.
THAT'S JUST WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE GONNA HEAR A LITTLE BIT OF CAUTION FROM US.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU'RE A TREMENDOUS HOME BUILDER.
YOU GUYS HAVE BUILT REALLY GOOD PROJECTS OVER THERE TOO.
BUT CAN THIS COUNCIL, CAN, CAN THIS COUNCIL SAY WE WANNA PUT ALL OUR EGGS IN THAT, IN THAT BASKET AND SAY THAT WE, WE DON'T WANNA HAVE A SHOT TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE, EVEN IF IT DID TAKE, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS OR 15 YEARS RIGHT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE, THAT WE WANNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR? AND THAT'S THE TOUGH THING FOR US.
AND, AND WE UNDERSTAND, AND THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR ON THE HARD CORNER WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMERCIAL SPECIFICALLY THERE, LIKE, LIKE REALLY IF YOU, IF YOU, IF YOU BROKE IT UP, IT'S ALMOST LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OR WHATEVER TOO, BUT, UM, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO HALVES RIGHT NOW.
AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DETENTION ON EACH CORNER THERE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DRAINAGE COMING THROUGH.
AND THERE'S BOX CULVERTS GOING.
IS THAT ALSO A BRIDGE YOU GOTTA DO OVER THE OTHER ONE? OVER THE, OVER ON THE LEFT.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE, UH, YOU SAID PARKSIDE PARKWAY AS IT'S TO THE, THOSE WOULD BE DETENTIONS THAT WE WOULD INSTALL.
AND SO THERE'S A BOX CULVERT RIGHT THERE.
YOU, THE EXISTING POND DISCHARGES, AND IT KIND OF COMES THROUGH AND THEN GOES THROUGH LOST WOODS, SEE IT, WHERE WE DEVELOPED.
AND SO THAT IT, IT MAKES IT NOT IDEAL.
SO WERE YOU DONE, CHRIS? YEAH, I'M GOOD.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU GUYS ARE, WHY YOU GUYS ARE HERE, BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AND YOU DRIVE AROUND THE AREA, YOU KNOW WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED.
IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA.
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AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT GETTING MORE TERRITORY.WE'RE NOT GETTING MORE RES, UH, AREAS WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE COMMERCIAL.
AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I, IT LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO AN AREA IN CEDAR PARK.
SO TO SAY, I DON'T, I THINK COMMERCIAL COULD WORK HERE JUST LIKE IT DID OVER THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE, WHEN 1 75 GETS, UH, EXPANDED AND, AND THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE DONE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE 50 SOMETHING ACRES OF COMMERCIAL EITHER.
I HAD VERY SIMILAR THOUGHTS WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS TOO.
UM, I THOUGHT OF, UH, THAT LITTLE ICE CREAM SHOP ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL DOWN THERE IS HOPPING ALL THE TIME.
UM, THEY, THEY DO VERY WELL AS KIND OF A, A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE OVER THERE, REALLY, YOU KNOW? UM, AND I, I ALSO AGREE WITH THE SAME THING.
LIKE IT'S NOT, THE WHOLE THING IS NOT GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL.
SO IF WE WERE TO SAY NO TO THIS, WOULD THAT, WHAT IS YOUR NEXT MOVE? ARE YOU DOING SPLITTING IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND DOING COMMERCIAL IN SOME RESIDENTIAL OR WE YEAH, I CAN ANSWER THAT.
AM I IN MY HOMES IS A HOME BUILDER, RIGHT? AND SO WE, WE WOULD NOT DO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HERE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD DO.
AND SIMPSON FAMILY PROBABLY ISN'T GONNA BREAK THAT OFF INTO TWO DIFFERENT PARTS.
AND, AND THEY HAD SOME FAMILY DYNAMICS GOING ON, UH, THAT WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING THE SOUTH SIDE, WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA, UH, 'CAUSE WE WERE HOPING THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THIS SIDE TOO ONE DAY.
AND, UH, ANYWAY, THE DAYS HERE AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THINGS, THINGS CHANGE OVER TIME.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN DEVELOP BOTH, BOTH PARCELS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE LOVE DOING, UH, BUILDING HOMES IN, IN LEANDER AND, AND THINGS THINK IT WOULD BE VERY SUCCESSFUL.
UM, AND AS ETHAN MENTIONED, WE BELIEVE THE COMMERCIAL WILL WILL BE AT RONALD REAGAN.
UH, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT DISTANCE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY A MILE OR LESS MILE AND A HALF, A MILE AND A HALF FROM HERE.
SO, SO THAT DRIVE IS, IS NOT TOO FAR.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO FAMILY MEMBERS.
SO THE SIMPSONS THAT LIVE ON THE PROPERTY, THEY'VE, THEY'VE WANTED TO SELL TO US FOR A WHILE.
UH, CIRCUMSTANCES ARE FINALLY HERE.
SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE, IF WE ENDED UP WITH A LITTLE BIT OF COMMERCIAL THERE ON THE HARD CORNER, AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH, UH, HOW MANY ACRES THAT IS WHERE THE DETENTION IS, BUT THERE IS A, A LOT OF DRAINAGE COMING THROUGH THERE, SIR.
'CAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST, YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT AND BREAK OFF A TINY CORNER BECAUSE NOBODY WILL EVER DEVELOP IT IN THE FIR BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO.
SO YOU'RE BE AWAY FROM THE HARD CORNER.
I, I WOULD, WITH THE RETAIL CLIENTS I WORK FOR, I WOULD SAY JOURNEY PARKWAY ITSELF DOES NOT CARRY ENOUGH TRAFFIC AT THIS POINT, UM, TO, TO BE ATTRACTIVE TO RETAIL USER AND CAPTURE THAT PASS THROUGH TRAFFIC.
SO THAT FORCES A POTENTIAL RETAIL SITE OVER TO C 1 75.
THAT ACCESS THERE WITH THE MEDIANS AND THE SCHOOL ZONES IS SO DIFFICULT.
THAT FORCES IT RIGHT TO THE CORNER OF PARKSIDE PARKWAY, UM, WHICH IS GONNA BE IMMEDIATELY ATTRACTIVE TO A GAS STATION USER.
MAYBE YOU COULD FIND, UH, A USER FOR MAYBE A FIVE TO 10 ACRE STRIP CENTER THERE.
UM, BUT I THINK THE RISK WITH THAT IS THAT EVENTUALLY THIS JUST CREATES A SMALL NUISANCE IN, IN THE SEA OF SINGLE FAMILY HERE, RIGHT? RETAIL'S GONNA HAVE DIFFERENT TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAN THE SCHOOLS AND DIFFERENT TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAN THE, THE RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN EVENTUALLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT A, A BUILT OUT COMMERCIAL SITE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY, UM, AND ALL THE CONFLICTS THAT CREATES WITH, WITH LIGHT NOISE, SOUND, OPERATING HOURS, ET CETERA.
SO I THINK THAT'D BE THE RISK THERE.
WHAT ARE WE THINKING? YEAH, YOU, THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR OVERALL DIRECTION, RIGHT? OUR VOTE TODAY IS GOING TO BE TO EITHER SUPPORT OR NOT SUPPORT, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH FROM SOME OF YOU, ANYBODY.
YOU, WITH YOUR, UM, WITH THE, WITH YOUR EVALUATION, UH, IT'S ALMOST LIKE SHOULD, YOU'RE ALSO HIRED BY THE APPLICANT, RIGHT, TOO.
SO I'M JUST, I'M SO SORRY TO BE DIRECT, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, AND, BUT WE HAVE, YOU HAVE, YOUR COMPANY HAS A GREAT REPUTATION TOO, AND WE'VE USED YOU AS CONSULTANTS FOR NUMEROUS, UH, UH, REPORTS AND PROJECTS AND, AND THINGS HERE TOO, SO, AND CASE STUDIES.
I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND IT'S A DIFFICULT DECISION TO
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MAKE.UH, WHETHER MY CLIENT WAS ROYCE OR MY CLIENT WAS THE CITY HERE.
IF WE DO NOT SUPPORT THIS TONIGHT, UM, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE STARTING UP OUR NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CYCLE IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
AND SO IF, IF WE DON'T SUPPORT AND YOU DISAGREE, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO PUT IN INPUT AND SAY, THIS IS HOW THESE AREAS SHOULD GO.
NOT JUST YOUR LAND THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, BUT THE AREAS ALL AROUND THAT IMPACT YOU COUNCIL.
LAST CHANCE, ANYTHING FURTHER? WELL, I'LL JUST SAY I AGREE.
I, I DON'T THINK RIGHT NOW IS THE TIME SINCE WE DO HAVE THE, THE REVIEW COMING UP.
UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE, THE PROPOSAL FOR 70 FOOT LOTS IN THE LARGER HOMES.
SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE PROJECT, IT'S THE PLACE AND THE TIME.
BUT IF WE WERE, IF THE RESO FOR, IF THE RESOLUTION WASN'T PART OF THIS, THAT WOULD, THOSE WOULDN'T BE 70 FOOT LOTS, RIGHT? THOSE WOULD BE SOMETHING ELSE.
IT WOULD BE A MORE DENSE PRODUCT, MORE THAN 50.
BUT THE BUT THE LARGER HOME ON IT, CORRECT.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE RESOLUTION HERE.
I THINK WE'D BE HAPPY TO BRING YOU BACK A STRONG MIX OF RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT.
WELL, WELL, AND AGAIN, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I KNOW ROBIN WAS HERE, AND I THINK MAYOR, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I MET YOU AT ONE OF THE, UH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PRESENTATIONS AT, AT THE SCHOOL OVER THERE.
UM, I'M JUST SAYING, JUST, JUST AGAIN, JUST FOR REFERENCE, YOU KNOW, WE TRIED, IT WAS MUCH SMALLER, LOTS BACK THEN, UH, THAT MATCHED.
THE PETRO LAND USE MAP WAS THE SAME.
WELL, OTHER THAN WE, WE CHANGED AROUND THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, SO I THINK IT WAS MUCH SMALLER, YOU KNOW.
WELL, I KNOW IT WAS MUCH SMALLER, HIGHER DENSITY, SOME ALLEY LOAD PRODUCT, SOME LOCAL RETAIL PLANNED ON THE CORNER.
AND, UH, WE HAD SORT OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS SUPPORT AND UNTIL THE NEIGHBORS CAME AND IT WAS A FULL HOUSE AND, UH, ANYWAY, DIRECTION WE CHANGED AND, AND IT WORKED OUT.
UH, UM, BUT I THINK WE MIGHT GET SOME, UM, SIMILAR RESPONSES FROM THE NEIGHBORS WHEN WE GO TALK TO 'EM, WHICH WE, WHICH OF COURSE WE'LL, UM, ANYWAY, JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK.
ARE WE ABLE TO GET THE FEEDBACK FROM WHATEVER SURVEY YOU DO OF THE NEIGHBORS BEFORE WE DECIDE? NO, WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS OR TALK ABOUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHEN THEY CAME.
ROBIN, YOU CAN MAYBE GIVE A LITTLE INSIGHT.
SO, UM, THEY COULD SUBMIT THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH WOULD START THE PUBLIC NOTICE PROCESS, AND THAT WOULD ENGAGE THE NEIGHBORS.
AND YOU KNOW, WE MADE THE DECISION RIGHT OR WRONG TO COME SEE YOU FIRST BEFORE REACHING OUT TO A, COME UP TO THE MIC, PLEASE.
I'M SORRY I MADE THE DECISION RIGHT OR WRONG TO COME SEE YOU BEFORE WE WENT TO THE NEIGHBORS JUST TO GET SOME FEEDBACK.
BUT, UH, UH, OF COURSE WE WOULD, WE WERE PLANNING ON GOING THE NEIGHBORS WITH HOPEFUL POSITIVE DIRECTION TONIGHT.
BUT YEAH, I THINK IT'S SMART TO DO THAT BEFORE YOU'RE SPENDING A BUNCH OF MONEY.
JUST TO KNOW LIKE YOU'RE READING THE ROOM.
AND THAT'S WHY WE GIVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS IS SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT LEADING PEOPLE DOWN THE WRONG PATH AND SHE CAN STAY COMPETENTLY.
AND, AND, AND I DIDN'T ASK THE SIMPSONS TO BE HERE, BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY WOULD SUPPORT US.
UH, AND THEY HAVE, UH, BEEN IN, IN LEANDER FOR A LONG TIME.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK IT'LL BE A VERY NICE, NICE SUBDIVISION.
UH, IT MATCHES WHAT'S, WHAT'S AROUND THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE A PRE-DEVELOPMENT CALL WITH CITY STAFF.
UH, SO I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THEY GIVE SUPPORT OR, OR, ANYWAY, UH, WHAT TYPE OF COMMITMENT DO YOU NEED TO HAVE AS A COMPANY, UH, TO BE ABLE TO TAKE DOWN THE, TO OWN UP TO THE CONTRACT OUTTA YOUR FEASIBILITY PERIOD AND, AND PERFORM IN THE SIMPSONS AND ALL THAT? LIKE, WHAT TYPE OF, WHAT TYPE OF COMMITMENT FROM US ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY CONTRACT TIME, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
UH, WE HAVE SOME VERY TIGHT TIMELINES WHERE, UH, WHERE WE WOULD NEED TO PROCEED WITH A FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
ULTIMATELY, WE ZONING IS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO.
UH, BUT THE STEP BEFORE THAT IS FUTURE LANE MAP AMENDMENT.
SO WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS, BUT RIGHT.
IT, IT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE FOR US.
UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE COULD NEGOTIATE EXTENSIONS OR NOT, I'M NOT SURE.
BUT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME.
I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR ALL OF OUR FEEDBACK.
MINE IS REALLY, IT'S A BIG CONCERN TO GIVE UP COMMERCIAL.
UM, BUT IT'S JUST REALLY HARD TO THINK ABOUT GIVING UP COMMERCIAL.
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REALLY TRYING TO DO OUR BEST TO BE FOCUSED ON THAT.SO FOR ME, THAT WOULD BE A HARD, A HARD DECISION TO MAKE.
NO, AND I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL, AND Y'ALL HAVE SEEN A FEW OF THESE RECENTLY, BUT I, I THINK THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON ONE TRACK JUST TO THE WEST OF US WHERE IT WAS GIVEN UP, UH, WEST OF THE SCHOOL, I THINK, UH, WITH THE REALIZATION THAT MOST OF THE COMMERCIAL WOULD GO LONGER, RONALD REAGAN, AND NOT EAST.
UH, SO I WOULD HOPE THIS SAME CONSIDERATION MIGHT BE HERE, BUT, UH, ALL RIGHT.
COUNSEL, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING THE CHANGE, I DON'T NEED A MOTION.
UM, I, I WAS TRYING TO JUST GET FURTHER JUST TO, JUST TO HELP THEM TOO.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING ON, BUT I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GONNA GET SHUT DOWN RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY, UM, IS THERE ANY, LIKE, IS THERE ANY TYPE OF ABILITY FOR YOU GUYS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE DOWN THE PROPERTY AND TO KNOW THAT WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR SOME TYPE OF COMMERCIAL TO GO SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA, IN THAT GENERAL FACILITY VICINITY? OR IS THAT COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF YOUR GUYS' ABILITY TO, UH, TO DO THAT? BECAUSE IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR US, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM EVERYBODY IS THAT, UM, WE, WE, WE DON'T WANT TO COMPLETELY GIVE UP THE CHANCE FOR ANYTHING TO BE ABLE TO YEAH, NO, NO.
I MEAN, FOR ME, AGAIN, WE'RE HOME BUILDERS, YOU KNOW, WE TRY AND, UH, SOMETIMES WE'LL TAKE DOWN ADDITIONAL LAND.
UM, BUT I REALLY DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS A VIABLE COMMERCIAL CORNER.
I I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
I, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, UH, BUT AGAIN, I KNOW THE SIMPSON FAMILY, THEY'VE OWNED IT FOREVER.
THERE'S GENERATIONS CHANGE AND, AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO SELL IT.
UM, SO FOR US, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD, I GUESS I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RESIDENTIAL Y'ALL WOULD SUPPORT.
AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THE SIMPSON FAMILY WOULD, YOU KNOW, ADJUST THE CONTRACT TO, BECAUSE IF THIS CAME ON A LITTLE BIT LATER AND THE DENSITY WASN'T 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS, AND IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE.
'CAUSE IT COMES 'CAUSE AS THEY'RE GONNA BE STARTING THIS THING, OUR RESOLUTION'S UP.
AND THEN A LOT OF TIMES WITH COMMERCIAL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOMETHING, UM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SMALLER LOT SIZES.
WHETHER THAT'S ONE THING, IT CHANGES YOUR PRO FMI A LITTLE BIT IF YOU'RE ABLE TO, TO MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK THAT WAY.
BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT YEAH.
AND, AND ETHAN OR, OR ROBIN MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP.
UM, I THINK TO CONFORM TO THE, UH, CURRENT, UH, FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I KNOW WHAT THE NEIGHBORS DIDN'T WANT THAT.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WOULD NO, BUT WE'RE TALKING THE DIFFERENCE OF LIKE FIFTIES AND SIXTIES VERSUS SEVENTIES.
IF, IF OUR RESOLUTION ALLOWED IT, UM, LATER ON AND, AND WE WERE GETTING WHAT WE NEED HERE AND THE TIMING OF WHICH WAS COMING ONLINE MAYBE CLOSER TO WHEN WE CAN ACTUALLY, UH, HANDLE THAT TYPE OF STUFF, WOULD THAT CHANGE ANYTHING FOR US? I THINK THAT, UH, A DENSER PRODUCT HERE WOULD CERTAINLY HELP ROYCE'S PROFORMA, UH, AND THE PROJECT PENCIL OUT, BUT I'M NOT SURE IT, IT GOING FROM A 70 FOOT LOT TO A 50 FOOT LOT, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD CREATE ENOUGH DENSITY.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH DENSITY TO STILL MAKE THIS APPEALING TO A COMMERCIAL USER.
IS A VERY LOW DENSITY AREA PART OF TOWN.
ON THE EDGE OF LEANDER, EDGE OF GEORGETOWN, I WAS NO WAY NOT APPLYING ALLEY LOADED PRODUCTS SHOULD GO THERE.
BY THE WAY, JUST FOR EVERYBODY ON THE RECORD,
I UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR STUFF ARE.
I THINK YOU'RE STILL GETTING RUN THE SAME PROBLEM WHERE IT'S JUST NOT ATTRACTIVE TO ANY KIND OF COMMERCIAL USER.
WELL, YEAH, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PROCESS OR HOW LONG THAT WOULD TAKE IF WE WERE TO COME BACK WITH 50 OR 60 FOOT WIDE, YOU KNOW, FRONT, FRONT LOAD.
UM, THAT DOESN'T, I DON'T THINK THAT WORKS UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.
I I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT OR, OR WE WOULD JUST, I GUESS WE'D JUST ASK FOR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ZONING YES.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO NOT SUPPORT THE CHANGE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF NOT SUPPORTING THE CHANGE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THE TIME IS 8 37 COUNSEL'S GONNA TAKE A 10 MINUTE RECESS.
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TAKE THAT AS A YES.WE ARE BACK IN SESSION AT 8:47 PM MOVING
[41. Discuss and consider action on a Professional Services Contract with Langford Community Management Services, Inc. for grant consultant services pursuant Request for Qualifications (RFQ) S24-008; and authorize the City Manager to execute any and all necessary documents.]
ON TO ITEM 41, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT WITH LANGFORD COMPANY MANAGEMENT SERVICES INCORPORATED FOR GRANT CONSULTANT SERVICES PURSUANT TO REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS S 24 DASH ZERO EIGHT AND AUTHORIZED CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE POWER IS WELCOME.
MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, UH, CITY STAFF, UH, RELEASED THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR GRANT CONSULTANTS SERVICES.
AND, UH, THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE RECEIVED, UH, 10 FIRMS THAT SUBMITTED, AND THE EVALUATION TEAM REDUCED THAT TO THE TOP TWO.
AND, UH, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO, UH, RECOMMEND THE, UM, UH, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS LANGFORD, UH, COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
AND, UM, I DON'T USUALLY SAY THIS, BUT, UH, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT A LOT OF WORK COMING OUR WAY.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, UM, AS WE BUILD THE CITY'S INTERNAL CAPACITY FOR, UH, SEARCHING OUT GRANTS AND BEING PROACTIVE, UH, THAT A LOT IS GONNA COME OUR WAY.
SO WE'RE ANXIOUS TO, UH, START THAT PROCESS.
UM, AND WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT YOU GAVE US IN THE BUDGET TO, TO BUILD SOME INTERNAL CAPACITY FOR THAT.
UH, MS. JUDY LANGFORD, PRESIDENT AND OWNER OF LANGFORD COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT SERVICES IS HERE TO INTRODUCE HERSELF FORMALLY AND, UH, SAY A FEW WORDS, BUT, UH, WE'RE ANXIOUS, UH, SHOULD YOU SUPPORT THIS, UH, THIS EVENING TO, UM, TO GET STARTED.
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK, UH, UH, MS. LANGFORD TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE HERSELF AND SAY A FEW WORDS.
BOY, Y'ALL ARE GONNA HAVE A LIGHT LATE NIGHT THIS EVENING.
I'LL KEEP IT RELATIVELY BRIEF.
I'M THE, UM, OWNER AND PRESIDENT OF LANGFORD COMMITTEE MANAGEMENT SERVICES, AND JESSICA DAYONE, WHO IS ONE OF YOUR CITIZENS HERE IN LEANDER.
UM, SHE IS ONE OF OUR SENIOR MANAGERS, AND SO SHE'S HERE WITH ME TONIGHT AND WAS AT THE SCORING COMMITTEE AS WELL.
WE DID GIVE YOU A, JUST A ONE, A REALLY BRIEF ONE PAGER, JUST SOME IDEAS, SOME JUICES FLOWING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMPANY.
WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 40 YEARS.
UM, JESSICA'S BEEN WITH ME FOR OVER 10 NOW.
SO, UM, WE ARE REALLY SUPER EXCITED ABOUT BEING HERE IN LEANDER, AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME GREAT THINGS.
AND I HERE TELL THAT WE ALREADY HAVE OUR, UM, PARTNERSHIP TEAM HERE IN THE CITY READY TO GO, UM, WITH PAM AND WITH, UH, OH, SHOOT,
UM, AND WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
AND, UH, JESSICA, IF YOU WANTED TO JUST SAY A FEW THINGS, EUGENE, NICE TO MEET Y'ALL.
UM, LIKE JEAN SAID, JUST REALLY HAPPY TO WORK WITH Y'ALL.
UM, I'VE LIVED HERE MOST OF MY LIFE.
MY SON'S A SOPHOMORE IN, IN HIGH SCHOOL.
I LIVE ON MARKING IN MOCKINGBIRD PLACE.
UM, I WAS JUST TELLING HER, LISTENING TO EVERYTHING SO FAR IS I'VE BEEN IN A LOT OF COUNCIL MEETINGS, A LOT OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT, YOU KNOW, BUT WE DON'T LIVE THERE, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT HEARING THE STREETS AND THE THINGS GOING ON, I DRIVE PAST THEM.
AND YOU HAD SEVERAL THINGS ON YOUR, UM, UH, YOUR, UH, AGENDA THAT YOU PASSED EARLIER THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA FEED RIGHT INTO SOME OF THE GRANTS WE'RE GONNA WORK ON.
SO WE'RE EXCITED AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
BUT I, WE JUST WANTED TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO SAY HELLO.
WELL, WE ARE EXCITED THAT YOU'RE HERE.
UM, WHEN I WAS A BABY COUNCIL MEMBER BACK IN 2018, I WENT TO MY FIRST TML AND I, I HEARD ABOUT GRANT WRITING SERVICES FOR CITIES.
AND I CAME BACK AND STARTED ASKING, CAN WE GET GRANT SERVICES? CAN WE GET GRANT SERVICES? AND THEN THREE YEARS AGO, THESE TWO LADIES WENT TO TML, AND I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS BOTH OF YOU.
I REMEMBER YOU WERE LIKE, HEY, THERE'S GRANT SERVICES HERE,
SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED FOR Y'ALL TO BE HERE.
SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION.
AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU GUYS MORE OFTEN.
[42. Discuss and consider action on a Resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn, if necessary, a 7,704 square foot water line easement and a 13,005 square foot temporary construction easement (both as described in Agenda Item 42 and Exhibit "A") from that certain 32.778 acre tract conveyed to Subramanian, Ltd. and recorded at Document Number 2010043776 of the official public records of Williamson County, Texas, for the public use and purpose of construction of a water line.]
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION FINDING PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, AND AUTHORIZING THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO CONDEMN IF NECESSARY, A 7,704 SQUARE FOOT WATERLINE EASEMENT AND A 13,005 SQUARE FOOT TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA.GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
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IN THE NEXT FIVE, UH, PERTAIN TO THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO ACQUIRE EASEMENTS RELATED TO THE 2243 WATERLINE PROJECT.UH, THE CITY HAS GONE THROUGH THE PROCESSES IN EACH OF THESE CASES WITH THESE PARTICULAR PARCELS THAT ARE, UH, IDENTIFIED IN EACH OF THESE AGENDA ITEMS, UM, TO, UH, GIVE NOTICES TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO GET APPRAISALS OF THE PROPERTY, UM, AND TO INTERN TO GET FAITH NEGOTIATIONS TO TRY TO TRY TO ACQUIRE THE EASEMENTS BASED ON THE TERMS OF THE APPRAISAL, UH, THE TIMELINES HAVE EXPIRED FOR THE CITY'S FINAL NOTICES TO, UM, ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT.
AND WE HAVE NOT REACHED AN AGREEMENT REGARDING THE ACQUISITION OF THESE EASEMENTS.
THEREFORE, WE ARE BEFORE THE COUNCIL TONIGHT TO SEEK AUTHORIZATION TO ENTER INTO CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS AND FILE A PETITION WITH THE COURT, UH, TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS.
UH, BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ON EACH OF THESE ITEMS, UH, IS THE REQUIREMENT TO, UH, USE SPECIFIC MOTION LANGUAGE IN APPROVING, UH, THE RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE NEEDED IN ORDER TO, UH, TAKE THE NEXT STEP FOR FILING THE PETITIONS.
UH, AND THAT MOTION LANGUAGE IS BEFORE YOU, FOR EACH ITEM AND A RECORD VOTE IS REQUIRED AS WELL.
THE FIRST ITEM BEFORE YOU, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND VOTE IS THE, UM, IAN PROJECT, UH, PROPERTY.
IS THAT EVERYTHING? THAT'S IT.
I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF LEANDER AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE BOTH A PERMANENT WATERLINE EASEMENT OF 7,704 SQUARE FEET, AND A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT OF 13,005 SQUARE FEET FROM PROPERTY OWNED BY SUB ROMANIAN LIMITED AND DESCRIBED IN AGENDA ITEM 42 FOR THE PUBLIC USE OF CONSTRUCTING AND OPERATING PUBLIC WATER LINES AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND A SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I DID HAVE JUST A LITTLE DISCUSSION JUST FOR ANYONE THAT'S NOT ATTENDING TO MAYBE JUST WATCHING OR WATCHES A SLATER.
UM, THESE ARE HOLDING UP THE PRO PROGRESS OF ACTUALLY PUTTING THE WATER LINE IN.
AND THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE BRINGING WATER TO PEOPLE'S PROPERTY ON THE CITY'S DIME.
AND SO WE'RE JUST NOT HEARING BACK FROM THESE FOLKS.
I'M, I'M SORRY, WE'RE NOT HEARING BACK FROM THE FOLKS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PURCHASE THESE EASEMENTS, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING TO GO THROUGH THIS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WELL, FOR CLARIFICATION, WE'RE WE'RE NOT HEARING FROM THEM OR WE'RE NOT IN AGREEMENT.
IT, IT, IT, IT'S, EACH ONE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
BUT WE JUST HAVE NOT RE WE REACHED AN AGREEMENT, HAVE NOT REACHED AN AGREEMENT FOR ACQUISITION.
AND WE'VE EXHAUSTED ALL EFFORTS TO, UH, WELL, WE'VE EXHAUSTED THE, THE EFFORTS TO GET TO THAT POINT, UM, TO A REASONABLE AGREEMENT AT THIS STAGE.
SO WE, WE NEED TO PROCEED TO THE NEXT STEP.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT.
[43. Discuss and consider action on a Resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn, if necessary, a 5,804 square foot water line easement and a 9,675 square foot temporary construction easement (both as described in Agenda Item 43 and Exhibit "A") from that certain tract of land conveyed to JNK Properties 1, Ltd. and recorded at document Number 2021182868 of the official public records of Williamson County, Texas, for the public use and purpose of construction of a water line.]
ITEM 43, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION FINDING PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY AUTHORIZING THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO CONDEMN IF NECESSARY, A 5,004 SQUARE FOOT WATERLINE EASEMENT, AND A 9,675 SQUARE FOOT TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA.JUST TO CLARIFY, WAS THAT IT? IT SHOULD BE 5,804 SQUARE FEET.
DID I NOT SAY THAT? I DIDN'T HEAR THE ANSWER.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY IT.
THE, THE PRIOR EXPLANATION GIVEN APPLIES TO THIS PROPERTY AS WELL.
UH, THIS, UM, AGENDA ITEM SEEKS AUTHORIZATION TO ACQUIRE EASEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY OWNED BY J AND KAY PROPERTIES ONE LIMITED, AND WE, WE SEEK SIMILAR, UM, SPECIFIC MOTION LANGUAGE IN THE ROLL CALL VOTE.
I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF LEANDER AUTHORIZED THE USE OF THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE BOTH A PERMANENT WATERLINE EASEMENT OF 5,804 SQUARE FEET, AND A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT OF 9,675 SQUARE FEET FROM PROPERTY OWNED BY J AND K PROPERTIES.
ONE LIMITED AND DESCRIBED IN AGENDA ITEM 43 FOR THE PUBLIC USE OF CONSTRUCTING AND OPERATING PUBLIC WATER LINES AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
SECOND MOTION AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
[44. Discuss and consider action on a Resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn, if necessary, a 3,808 square foot water line easement and a 6,398 square foot temporary construction easement (both as described in Agenda Item 44 and Exhibit "A") from a called 3.00 acre tract conveyed to Devidass Mahendru and recorded at Document Number 2004056322 of the official public records of Williamson County, Texas, for the public use and purpose of construction of a water line.]
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DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION FINDING PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, AND AUTHORIZING THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO CONDEMN IF NECESSARY, IF 3,808 SQUARE FOOT WATER LINE EASEMENT AND A 6,398 SQUARE FOOT TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA, CITY ATTORNEY, SCIENCE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE, WE'VE, AS WITH THE OTHER PROPERTIES, WE'VE REACHED THE STAGE OF, UH, THE NEED TO, UM, HAVE THE COUNCIL EXERCISE EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE THESE PROPERTIES.UH, AND THIS ACTION WOULD BE FOR THE THREE ACRE PARCEL THAT IS OWNED BY MR. MAHINDRA.
AS WITH THE OTHERS, THERE'S SPECIFIC MOTION LANGUAGE REQUIRED IN A ROLL CALL VOTE.
I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF LEANDER AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE BOTH A PERMANENT WATERLINE EASEMENT OF 3,808 SQUARE FEET, AND A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT OF 6,398 SQUARE FEET FROM PROPERTY OWNED BY DEDAS MAHINDRA, AS DESCRIBED IN AGENDA ITEM 44 FOR THE PUBLIC USE OF CONSTRUCTING AND OPERATING PUBLIC WATER LINES AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
[45. Discuss and consider action of a Resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn, if necessary, a 15,763 square foot water line easement and a 25,753 square foot temporary construction easement (both as described in Agenda Item 45 and Exhibit "A") from a called 36.054 acre tract conveyed to Devidass Mahendru and Swahan Mahendru and recorded at Document Number 20030708726 of the official public records of Williamson County, Texas, for the public use and purpose of construction of a water line.]
ITEM NUMBER 45, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION OF A RESOLUTION, FINDING PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY AND AUTHORIZING THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO CONDEMN IF NECESSARY.A 15,763 SQUARE FOOT WATERLINE EASEMENT.
AND A 25,753 SQUARE FOOT TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA, CITY ATTORNEY SIGNS MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
AS WITH THE OTHERS, THIS, UH, UH, ACQUISITION EFFORT HAS NOW PROCEEDED TO THE POINT WHERE EMINENT DOMAIN IS, IS, UH, REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY.
UH, THE, THE, THE MOTION LANGUAGE IS SET OUT BEFORE YOU AND A RECORD VOTE IS NEEDED AS WELL.
I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF LEANDER AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE POWER OF IMMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE BOTH A PERMANENT WATERLINE EASEMENT OF 15,763 SQUARE FEET, AND A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT OF 25,753 SQUARE FEET FROM PROPERTY OWNED BY DEDAS MAHINDRA AND SHAN MAHINDRA, AND DESCRIBED IN AGENDA ITEM 45 FOR THE PUBLIC USE OF CONSTRUCTING AND OPERATING PUBLIC WATER LINES AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
[46. Discuss and consider action on a Resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn, if necessary, a 10,643 square foot water line easement and a 17,943 square foot temporary construction easement (both as described in Agenda Item 46 and Exhibit "A") from Lot 1, Block A, Valps Subdivision, as conveyed to Valps LC and recorded at Document Number 2021159327 of the official public Records of Williamson County, Texas, for the public use and purpose of construction of a water line.]
I AM.DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION, FINDING PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, AND AUTHORIZING THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO CONDEMN IF NECESSARY.
A 10,643 SQUARE FOOT WATER LINE EASEMENT.
AND A 17,943 SQUARE FOOT TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA.
CITY ATTORNEY SIGNS, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THE ACQUISITION EFFORTS HAVE, UH, HAVE, UM, RESULTED IN A NEED TO ACQUIRE THE, UH, COUNCIL'S VOTE ON AN AUTHORIZATION TO, UH, EXERCISE EMINENT DOMAIN.
AND, UH, USE THE SPECIFIC MOTION LANGUAGE STATED BELOW AND TAKE A RECORD VOTE ON THIS ITEM.
I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF LEANDER AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE BOTH A PERMANENT WATERLINE EASEMENT OF 10,643 SQUARE FEET, AND A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT OF 17,943 SQUARE FEET FROM PROPERTY OWNED BY VALS LC, AND DESCRIBED IN AGENDA ITEM 46 FOR THE PUBLIC USE OF CONSTRUCTING AND OPERATING PUBLIC WATER LINES AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
[47. Discuss and consider action on a Resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn, if necessary, an 8,846 square foot water line easement and a 13,541 square foot temporary construction easement (both as described in Agenda Item 47 and Exhibit "A") from that certain 27.376 acre tract conveyed to 8748 Presidential Holdings, LLC and recorded at Document Number 2021055844 of the official public records of Williamson County, Texas, for the public use and purpose of construction of a water line.]
I BELIEVE WE'RE ON 47.DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION, FINDING PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, AND AUTHORIZING THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO CONDEMN IF NECESSARY.
AND 8,846 SQUARE FOOT WATERLINE EASEMENT.
AND A 13,541 SQUARE FOOT TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT AS STATED ON THE POST AGENDA.
CITY ATTORNEY SIGNS MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS THE, THE FINAL TRACK THAT WE NEED ACTION ON TO AUTHORIZE THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN, UH, USING THE MOTION LANGUAGE PROVIDED WITH THE RECORD VOTE.
I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF LEANDER AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE BOTH A PERMANENT WATERLINE EASEMENT OF 8,846 SQUARE FEET, AND A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT OF 13,541 SQUARE FEET FROM PROPERTY OWNED AT 8 7 4 8 PRESIDENTIAL HOLDINGS LLC, AND DESCRIBED IN AGENDA ITEM 47 FOR THE PUBLIC USE OF CONSTRUCTING AND OPERATING PUBLIC WATER LINES AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
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THREE.[48. Discuss and consider action on submitting a nomination for Travis Central Appraisal District Board of Directors.]
ITEM 48, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON SUBMITTING A NOMINATION FOR TRAVIS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE POWERS.UH, THIS, UH, MY, MY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM WILL ALSO APPLY TO THE, UH, THE NEXT ITEM THAT, UH, ADDRESSES WILLIAMSON APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
BUT THE, IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE, UH, LEGISLATURE CHANGED THE WAY, UH, AND, UH, UH, CONFIGURATION OF APPRAISAL, UM, DISTRICT BOARDS.
NOW THERE ARE THREE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES ON APPRAISAL BOARD.
SO IT IS NOW A NINE MEMBER BOARD.
UH, THREE ARE ELECTED, FIVE ARE ARE SELECTED BY THE TAXING ENTITIES THAT, THAT THE APPRAISAL, UM, DISTRICT COVERS.
AND THEN THE, UM, COUNTY TAX, UH, ASSESSOR COLLECTOR IS EX OFFICIO.
UM, SINCE THIS WAS A, A CHANGE IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, ALL OF THE CURRENT, UM, TAXING ENTITY APPOINTEES, UM, ARE THEIR TERM WILL END AT THE END OF DECEMBER.
SO, UM, THERE'S A, UH, AN ELECTION TO RESET THE, THE, THE SEATING ARRANGEMENTS.
SO, UH, THE, UM, POSITIONS WILL BE STAGGERED AND THEN THEY'LL BE ON TWO YEAR TERMS GOING, UM, THEREAFTER.
BUT EACH OF THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS REQUIRES NOMINATIONS FROM THE TAXING ENTITIES TO BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO OCTOBER 15TH.
SO NO ACTION IS REQUIRED TONIGHT, BUT IF YOU, UM, CERTAINLY YOU COULD NOMINATE SOMEONE OR, OR UP TO FIVE, UH, NOMINEES, UH, YOU COULD DO THAT THIS EVENING.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO, UH, SUBMIT A NOMINATION, UH, THEN JUST, UH, LET THE CITY MANAGER OR THE CITY SECRETARY KNOW AND WE'LL GET THAT POSTED FOR THE, UH, OCTOBER 3RD AGENDA.
UM, MUST BE A RESIDENT OF THE, THE COUNTY FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS, AND YOU CAN BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR EXTRA WORK.
BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY, ANY QUESTIONS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS? GOOD.
[49. Discuss and consider action on submitting a nomination for Williamson Central Appraisal District Board of Directors.]
IS DONE.ITEM 49, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON SUBMITTING A NOMINATION FOR WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
UM, ANYBODY HAVE A NOMINATION FOR WILLIAMSON COUNTY? NO, SHE'S LATER.
ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT, NO ACTION.
[50. Discuss and consider action on casting vote for Texas Municipal League (TML) Region 10 Director Election.]
NUMBER 50, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON CASTING A VOTE FOR TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, TML, REGION 10 DIRECTOR ELECTION.UM, I WILL TALK ABOUT THIS ONE.
UM, TML LAST YEAR HAD A CHANGE IN THE CONSTITUTION AND PART OF THAT CHANGES HOW WE ELECT OUR DIRECTOR FOR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
AND THE DIRECTOR REPRESENTS BASICALLY THE ENTIRE CENTRAL TEXAS REGION.
OUR REGION COVERS AUSTIN, IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN SOUTH TO I THINK KYLE SAN MARCOS, UM, MIGHT BE JUST A LITTLE NORTH OF THAT.
IT GOES OUT TO COLLEGE STATION.
UM, BUT IT'S THIS WHOLE CENTRAL REGION AND I AM THE CURRENT BOARD MEMBER.
UM, AND I HAVE DECIDED THAT I, I HAVE TOO MUCH EXTRA WORK, MR. POWERS, AND SO I AM GIVING UP MY SEAT AS A BOARD MEMBER.
AND SO UNDER THE NEW CONSTITUTION, INSTEAD OF ELECTING, UM, PEOPLE AT TML REGIONAL MEETINGS, WHICH IS HOW I GOT THERE, UM, WE ARE NOW, EVERY CITY GETS TO CAST A VOTE, SORT OF LIKE WE DO FOR APPRAISAL DISTRICTS.
AND SO, UM, THERE ARE THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING, THEY'RE ALL FABULOUS PEOPLE.
HOWEVER, ONE OF THEM WAS SPECIFICALLY RECRUITED BY ME BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SHE WOULD BE AWESOME FOR OUR REGION BECAUSE SHE ALREADY DOES A LOT OF THINGS IN THE REGION AND KNOWS PEOPLE AND, AND CAN ADVOCATE AND HAS BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THINGS.
AND SO I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CAST OUR VOTE FOR PROTIME.
DO YOU WANT A SECOND? I HAVE TO SAY NO.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE I VOTE THAT OBVIOUSLY YOU WANT TO DO THIS? 'CAUSE IT'S, YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE THE TIME, YOU DON'T HAVE THINGS.
NO, I DON'T WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ON TOP OF THIS ON YES.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE TRYING TO NOMINATE ME TO BE ON THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY APPRAISAL.
I KNOW, BUT THAT'S WHY I WAS LIKE, NO,
BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK YOU CAN TAKE ON? YES.
UM, AND IT'S NOT A HUGE TIME COMMITMENT, BUT LIKE THREE TIMES A YEAR YOU HAVE TO TRAVEL TO MEETINGS AROUND THE STATE, WHICH IS COOL 'CAUSE YOU GET TO SEE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE STATE.
IT'S, IT'S VERY FUN IF YOU'RE A NERD THAT LIKES POLICY.
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UH, YEAH, I JUST NEED NO EXTRA THINGS RIGHT NOW.ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, I'LL DO THAT ONE QUICK.
SO, UM, WHEN WE DO THIS, ARE WE VOTE, SO WE'RE VOTING AS A BOARD, SO THEN THAT'LL GO TO THE THING AND THEN ALL OF THEM YES.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T FULLY EXPLAIN THAT.
SO, UM, EVERY CITY GETS ONE VOTE AND, AND IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL WEIGHED EQUALLY.
AND SO JUST WHICHEVER PERSON OF THE THREE GETS THE MOST CITY VOTES IS WHO WINS.
PREVIOUSLY IT WAS JUST HOWEVER MANY PEOPLE YOU GOT INTO THE ROOM AT THE MEETING THAT WOULD RAISE THEIR HAND FOR YOU.
BUT ALSO, IT WASN'T COMPETITIVE BEFORE EITHER.
SO I THINK THIS YEAR WITH IT BEING LAID OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN JUST RUN FOR THIS AND DO IT, LIKE, I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE INTEREST THAN, DO YOU AGREE THIS IS OUR BEST CHANCE TO HAVE REPRESENTATION OR MORE REPRESENTATION THERE TOO? UM, YES.
IT'S, IT'S BEEN GOOD FOR CONNECTING WITH PEOPLE THAT, THAT KNOW THINGS OR CAN HELP WITH THINGS.
UM, BUT, BUT ALSO THE, THE THREE PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING FOR THE POSITION, I THINK NICOLE IS, UM, VERY MUCH THE MOST QUALIFIED AND, UH, WOULD DO JUST FAR AND AWAY THE BEST JOB.
AND I CAN, I CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT OFFLINE IF YOU WANT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL TRUST THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS MORE THAN MYSELF.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES? YES, YOU CAN VOTE.
CONGRATULATIONS ON EARNING OUR VOTE AND GOOD LUCK.
[51. Discuss and consider action to appoint Councilmembers(s) to the Capital Area Council of Governments General Assembly (CAPCOG).]
ITEM 51, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION TO APPOINT COUNCIL MEMBER OR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO THE CAPITAL AREA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT'S GENERAL ASSEMBLY CAP COG.UH, SO OUR CURRENT REPRESENTATIVES ON THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ARE MYSELF, PRO TEM THOMPSON AND FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER ESME MKI LONGORIA.
UM, CAP COG RULES ALLOW FOR ESME TO STAY ON THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, AND THAT WAS WHAT SHE CHOSE TO DO.
BUT WE ARE GETTING TO THE POINT THAT WE NEED TO REPLACE HER SEAT AND, UH, THE NOMINATIONS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO MEET NEXT MONTH AND WE'RE GOING TO APPOINT PEOPLE TO THE EXECUTIVE BOARD.
AND SO IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY NEW AND FRESH IN THAT GENERAL ASSEMBLY SEAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE IN THAT SEAT TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE EXECUTIVE BOARD.
AND THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT REGIONALLY IS AWESOME FOR US TO BE INVOLVED WITH.
AND SO LUCKILY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MCDONALD HAS AGREED TO TAKE THAT SEAT.
AND, UM, HAVING FORMERLY HAD THAT SEAT, BECAUSE I KEEP TAKING ON EXTRA THINGS, UM, I THINK WOULD BE PHENOMENAL THERE.
AND I THINK A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT CAP COG DEALS WITH, YOU KNOW, RELATES TO EXPERTISE THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, AND SO I AM GOING TO MAKE A NOMINATION TO REPLACE COUNCIL MEMBER MATT KEON, OR A MOTION TO REPLACE COUNCIL MEMBER MATT LANGO WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MCDONALD.
DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? NO.
ANY THE OTHER TWO CONSULT HIM OR WE TAKING THEM? INDIVIDUAL? OH, DO WE HAVE TO DO ALL THREE? WELL, I JUST FOR MY CLARIFICATION, SO I KNOW IF WE'RE UNABLE TO REPLACE THE ONE, I THOUGHT WE WERE ONLY REPLACING ONE.
SO UNLESS COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON, IF YOU WANNA COME OFF OF THAT, YOU'RE GOOD.
UH, AND ON GENERAL ASSEMBLY, WE CAN REPLACE MIDYEAR EASILY ON, UM, ON EXECUTIVE BOARD.
THAT'S, THEY DON'T LIKE TO DO THAT, SO.
UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[52. Discuss and consider action on an appointment to the Central Texas Clean Air Coalition of the Capital Area Council of Governments.]
ITEM 52, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AN APPOINTMENT TO THE CENTRAL TEXAS CLEAN AIR COALITION OF THE CAPITAL AREA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.UM, TYPICALLY HISTORICALLY, THE PERSON WHO IS ON THE CLEAN AIR COALITION FOR THE CITY IS JUST THE, UH, EXECUTIVE BOARD MEMBER BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY THERE FOR A MEETING.
AND THEN CLEAN AIR COALITION MEETS AFTERWARDS.
AND SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MCDONALD TO BE OUR REPRESENTATIVE.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? YES.
THE ONE TIME IT DIDN'T HAPPEN WAS WHEN, WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER PENTAL PARKER WAS ON IT, AND YOU HAD TO TRAVEL ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE FOR ONE MEETING TO TALK ABOUT CLEAN AIR.
UM, QUARTERLY LISTEN, HUH? LISTEN ABOUT CLEAN AIR.
UH, ITEM 53, COUNCIL MEMBER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ANY DELIBERATION OF OR DECISION ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF THE INCREASE SHALL BE LIMITED TO A PROPOSAL TO PLACE THE SUBJECT ON THE AGENDA FOR A SUBSEQUENT MEETING.
[54. Council Member Closing Statements.]
ITEM 54, EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE.COUNCIL MEMBER CLOSING COMMENTS.
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PLACE THREE.I TALKED ENOUGH TONIGHT TO GIVE MYSELF A HEADACHE, SO I'M DONE.
PROTON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTES OF TRUST IN ME.
I APPRECIATE IT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING A GOOD JOB IF IT ALL ALIGNS, UM, WITH THE ELECTION FOR TML BOARD OF DIRECTOR AND FOR THE WORK WE DO ON CAPCO.
I FEEL LIKE WE DID A LOT OF THE HARD THINGS IN TONIGHT'S MEETING AND OUR LAST LIKE THREE HAVE BEEN REALLY EASY.
I HOPE OUR NEXT ONE IS NOT, NOT AS HEAVY.
UM, JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY TO SHOP LOCAL, SHOP LEANDER, WHEN YOU ARE OUT AND ABOUT.
UM, TONIGHT IN THE SPIRIT OF THAT, WE PICKED UP DINNER FROM CHIBA HUT, WHICH IS A VERY INTERESTING PLACE.
IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN THERE, CHECK OUT THEIR MENU, LOOK FOR ANY SORT OF HIDDEN MEANINGS.
UM, BUT THEY ARE DELICIOUS SANDWICHES AND THEY'RE RIGHT HERE IN LEANDER.
UH, WHEN YOU ARE OUT AND ABOUT, PLEASE PICK LEANDER FIRST.
IF YOU CAN'T PICK UP WHAT YOU WANT IN LEANDER ORDER ONLINE, BECAUSE WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF SALES TAX FROM THAT TOO.
EVERY PENNY HELPS AND IT PAYS FOR ALL THE PROGRAMMING THAT WE TALK ABOUT ALL, ALL THE TIME, THE PARK STUFF, LIBRARY STUFF, ALL THE THINGS.
WE ALSO ISSUED PROCLAMATIONS, ONE FOR VOLUNTEERISM AND ONE FOR CLEAN AIR WEEK, WHICH IS SEPTEMBER 23RD TO 27TH.
AND IS COUNCIL MEMBER PENTAL PARKER'S.
FAVORITE WEEK, I BELIEVE IS WHAT WE JUST HEARD.
I LIKE OZONE SEASON 'CAUSE YOU CAN SHOOT 'EM
AND WE HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF EVENTS COMING UP, UM, VERY SOON.
SO TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1ST IS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT FROM FIVE 30 TO 8:30 PM THAT IS CITYWIDE.
YOU SHOULD BE HAVING SOME KIND OF BLOCK PARTY.
KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE THAT IS A BIG PART OF HOW WE FIGHT CRIME, IS EVERYBODY KNOWING EACH OTHER, KNOWING THEIR PATTERNS, AND KNOWING WHEN SOMETHING IS WRONG IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BEING ABLE TO REPORT IT.
YOU SEE SOMETHING, YOU SAY SOMETHING.
UM, FRIDAY, OCTOBER 4TH AND SATURDAY OCTOBER 5TH IS THE BLUEGRASS AND FOLK FESTIVAL.
UM, THE 19TH ANNUAL BLUEGRASS AND FOLK FESTIVAL FROM 6:00 PM TO 9:30 PM BOTH NIGHTS ENJOY FOOD VENDORS AND A FUN ZONE WHILE LISTENING TO LIVE MUSIC.
UM, ADMISSION TO THE FESTIVAL IS FREE FUN ZONE.
WRISTBANDS FOR KIDS ARE $15 EACH.
THIS IS AT THE MASON HOMESTEAD EVERY YEAR, AND IT IS BEAUTIFUL AND FANTASTIC.
BRING OUT SOME FOLDING CHAIRS AND JUST ENJOY THE EVENT FOR THE EVENING.
OCTOBER 6TH IS THE DEADLINE TO ORDER RAIN BARRELS, UH, 9:00 AM TO NOON.
UM, MUNICIPAL DRIVE WILL BE THE PICKUP LATER ON.
UM, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 12TH IS ART FEST.
IT IS A FALL FANTASY FESTIVAL.
2:00 PM TO 6:00 PM IN LAKEWOOD PARK.
THE CITY OF LEANDER PUBLIC ARTS AND CULTURE COMMISSION IS ORCHESTRATING AN ENCHANTING CELEBRATION OF CREATIVITY AND COMMUNITY SPIRIT.
THIS VIBRANT ART FESTIVAL IS SET TO TRANSFORM LAKEWOOD PARK INTO A CANVAS OF IMAGINATION, AND IT'S FANTASTIC.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE LIVE ART GOING ON.
YOU'RE FREE TO COME IN COSTUME.
WE JUST GOT A SPIRIT STORE, SO YOU CAN GO SHOP LOCAL AND GET A COSTUME AND SHOW UP, AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE YOU OUT THERE.
ALSO, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 12TH IS RESIDENTIAL FALL CLEANUP, 8:00 AM TO NOON ON MUNICIPAL DRIVE.
VERY IMPORTANT CHANGE THIS YEAR.
UM, WE WILL NOT BE, UH, ACCEPTING BRUSH DURING THIS VISIT BECAUSE WHERE WE USUALLY PUT THE BRUSH NOW IS ABOUT TO BE A SENIOR CENTER.
SO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT BRINGING BRUSH THIS TIME.
SATURDAY, OCTOBER 19TH IS A FLOATING PUMPKIN PATCH AND RAIN BARREL PICKUP.
SATURDAY, OCTOBER 26TH IS ANIMAL SERVICES PET SPOOKTACULAR WITH FREE MICROCHIPPING FOR YOUR PETS.
LASTLY IS TRICKS AND TREATS SPOOKTACULAR AT THE LEANDER ACTIVITY CENTER FOR ALL OF THESE EVENTS, BECAUSE I KNOW I JUST GAVE YOU A MILLION OF THEM.
GO TO LEANDER TX.GOV AND YOU'LL GET ALL THE INFORMATION.
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ALL RIGHT, ITEM 55, EXECUTIVE SESSION IS PULLED FROM THE AGENDA AS IT IS NOT NEEDED.
SO ITEM 56 COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED AT 9:16 PM GOODNIGHT.