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COMMISSIONERS.[1. Call to Order.]
EVENING COMMISSIONERS.AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
[3. Swearing in of Planning & Zoning Commissioners Joseph Morales, Tara LeDay, Laura Lantrip, and Scott Calame.]
EXCITED BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE YEARS THAT WE GET TO SWEAR IN FOR COMMISSIONERS.AND SO WE'RE GONNA JUST GO DOWN THE LINE.
SO FIRST, LET'S WELCOME JOSEPH MORALES TO PLEASE TWO.
YOU WANNA SET THAT DOWN AND THEN PUT ONE HAND HERE AND THE OTHER HAND UP.
AND THEN SPEAK REAL LOUD SO THE MICROPHONE CAN HEAR YOU.
I JOSEPH MORALES, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR AND AFFIRM THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE, THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE, THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE, OF CITY OF LEANDER PLANNING AND ZONING OF THE CITY OF LEANDER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
PLACE TWO OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.
OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, PRESERVE AND PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE, AND THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE.
AND YOU MAY TAKE YOUR PLACE AT PLACE TWO.
DO WE WANNA HAVE THEM SAY ANYTHING OR DO YOU ALL DO THAT LATER? OKAY.
SO LEFT HAND HERE, RIGHT HAND UP.
I, TARA LADAY, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I'LL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THAT, THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE, THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE, OF THE CITY, OF LEANDER, OF THE CITY OF LEANDER, PLANNING AND ZONING, COMMISSION PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
PLACE FOUR OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.
OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES.
AND THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES.
I HAVE ONE HERE FOR LAURA LAND TRIPP.
GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK, COMMISSIONER.
I, LAURA LAND TRIPP, I, LAURA LAND TRIPP, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES THAT I'LL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE CITY, OF LEANDER, OF THE OFFICE, OF THE CITY OF LEANDER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, PLACED SIX, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, PLACED SIX OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.
OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES.
AND THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES.
AND SCOTT COLUM, WELCOME, WELCOME, RIGHT HAND UP.
THIS IS THE PART I'M ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT SCREWING UP.
I SCOTT KALO, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE, THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE, THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE, OF THE CITY, OF LEANDER, OF THE CITY OF LEANDER, PLANNING AND ZONING, COMMISSION, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
PLACE SEVEN, PLACE SEVEN OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.
OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, THE CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES, AND THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THE STATE, END OF THE STATE.
UH, SO WELCOME TO OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS AND CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR RETURNING COMMISSIONERS.
AND I JUST WANNA THANK OUR OUTGOING COMMISSIONERS SO MUCH FOR THEIR SERVICE AND DEDICATION.
I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY READING THROUGH THE PACKETS EVERY OTHER WEEK, THE VOLUMINOUS THINGS THAT Y'ALL GET AND, AND COMING IN HERE AND DEDICATING YOUR TIME.
AND SO I WANNA THANK COMMISSIONER MOSS AND COMM COMMISSIONER COSGROVE FOR THEIR SERVICE.
AND, UH, HOPE TO SEE Y'ALL STILL AROUND.
UH, OUR TWO COMMISSIONERS, NEW COMMISSIONERS WELCOME.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE AND ER I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE AND SERVE THE CITY OF LEANER AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
COMMISSIONER LADAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? I'M ALSO VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE.
UM, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE ABLE TO SERVE YOUR CITY.
UM, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING SO.
COMMISSIONER KALAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY WORDS? UM, THANKFUL TO BE REAPPOINTED AND, UH, VERY
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GRATEFUL THAT I'M NO LONGER THE MOST JUNIOR ROOKIE ON THISWE DIDN'T GIVE YOU TOO HARD OF A TIME.
AND I'M HAPPY TO BE, UH, RETURNING AS WELL AND CONTINUING TO SERVE.
[4. Election of Chair.
a. Nomination for position of Chair.
b. Discussion of Nominees.
c. Election of Chair.]
SO THAT MAKES EVERYONE ON THE DS ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AS CHAIRMAN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONER MAHAN DOWN ON THE END.
'CAUSE EVERYONE IS EITHER NEW, NEWLY APPOINTED OR HAS NOT SERVED DURING THIS TERM.
SO AT THIS TIME WE WILL, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS.
UH, NOMINATIONS WILL REQUIRE A SECOND.
WE'LL LET ALL NOMINATIONS TAKE PLACE FOR CHAIRMAN AND THEN WE WILL VOTE ON THE CANDIDATES.
SO AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR.
DOES ANYONE HAVE A NOMINATION? WELL, SINCE I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT'S NOT ELIGIBLE,
UH, WHO SECONDED DOWN HERE? UH, MR. HONOR.
UH, NOMINATION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER MAHAN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MAY.
SO NOW I WILL SWAP SWAP CHAIRS WITH YOU AND LET YOU DO THE REST OF THE MEETING AND THE VICE CHAIR
NO, THAT'S, WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE? THESE ARE THESE, UH, STATEMENTS.
[5. Election of Vice Chair.
a. Nomination for position of Vice Chair.
b. Discussion of Nominees.
c. Election of Vice Chair.]
WELL, EXCITING TO BE CHAIR AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS.
THIS IS, UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, OUR ELECTION OF THE VICE CHAIR.
I BELIEVE IT IS A CUSTOMED FOR THE CHAIR TO MAKE A NOMINATION AND THEN MOVE ON FROM THERE.
SO I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER, UH, SCOTT COLOM AS VICE CHAIR.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? EXCELLENT PASSES.
[6. Director's report to the Planning & Zoning Commission on action taken by City Council on the November 7, 2024 meeting.]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.SO DIRECTOR GRIFFIN, GOOD EVENING.
I'M REPORTING ON ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE NO NOVEMBER 7TH MEETING.
UM, THEY HAD SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WERE, UM, CASES FORWARDED TO THEM BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, THE FIRST ONE WAS THE 6 7 5 KAUFMAN LOOPT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND I THOUGHT I WOULD TRY PROVIDING IMAGES SO Y'ALL CAN REMEMBER WHAT CASE I'M TALKING ABOUT INSTEAD OF RAMBLING NUMBERS AT YOU.
UM, THE COUNSEL DID APPROVE THIS REQUEST AND IT WILL BE ON FOR SECOND READING AT THE NOVEMBER 21ST MEETING.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WAS THE REVIEW OF THE HILL COUNTRY COMMUNITY MINISTRIES, UH, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THIS ONE WAS ALSO APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WE'LL HAVE SECOND READING ON NOVEMBER 21ST AND THEN THE GILPIN TRACT AT, UM, LAKELINE.
AND, UH, HERO WAY WAS ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING WHERE THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND IT'LL BE GOING TO COUNCIL ON THE 21ST OR SECOND READING.
UM, AND THEY ALSO APPROVED THE AMENDMENT TO THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE, UM, FOR THE TYPE TWO SITE COMPONENTS.
UM, I ALSO WANTED TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, UH, JOINT WORKSHOP AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ON NOVEMBER 21ST, UM, TO DISCUSS THE UPDATES TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
UM, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER THAT'S LOCATED AT RONALD REAGAN AND HERO WAY AND TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THE LAND USE MIX.
AND THAT'S IT FROM OUR REPORT.
[7. Review of meeting protocol.]
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WE'LL REVIEW OUR MEETING PROTOCOL.SO TO YOUR RIGHT ON THE SCREEN IS HOW WE CONDUCT OUR MEETINGS.
UH, WE WILL ALSO BE OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE EITHER ON THE AGENDA OR NOT ON THE AGENDA.
SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I WILL OPEN UP, UM, THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING FREE.
DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT? OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON.
WE'LL CLOSE THAT AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO
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OUR CONSENT AGENDA.AND THIS ITEM CAN ACTUALLY BE PASSED WITH ONE MOTION.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? MOTION TO APPROVE.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER SHIPP.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COLO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? EXCELLENT.
[14. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-23-0103 to amend the current zoning of TOD/PUD-CD (Transit Oriented Development/ Planned Unit Development – Conventional Development Sector) to adopt the Skotz Minor PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning district of GC-2-A (General Commercial) on one (1) parcel of land approximately 4.03 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R031255; and more commonly known as 9800 RM 2243, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
GONNA CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING KC DASH 23 DASH 0 1 0 3 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF TOD PUD DASH CD, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UNIT DEVELOPMENT, CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT SECTOR TO ADOPT
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THE SCOTTS MINOR PUB WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF GC TWO A ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 4.03 ACRES IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCEL R 0 3 1 2 55, AND MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS NINE 800 RM 2243.LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS.
WHAT A DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION STAFF PRESENTATION.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSION CARINA CASTILLO WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF 2243 AND 180 3 A.
UM, JUST FOR CONTEXT, UM, THE PROPERTY IS, UM, JUST NORTH OF THE LEANDER SPRINGS PROPERTY.
UM, SO THE DOTTED LINE, THE DOTTED AREA IS THE LEANDER SPRINGS.
JUST FOR REFERENCE, UM, THE PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY USED AS A FABRICATION SHOP UNDER THE CANTWELL SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT WAS APPROVED IN JUNE, 2018.
AND IT IS GOOD FOR 10 YEARS, SO IT TO EXPIRE IN 2028.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ESTABLISH THE BAY ZONING OF GC TWO A, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SMALL TO LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL, RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL SERVICE USES LOCATED IN HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS.
THE PROPOSAL DOES COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED WITHIN THE ACTIVITY CENTER IDENTIFIED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
I WILL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
WITH THAT, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT? SORRY.
THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE AN APPLICATION.
DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO? ALRIGHT, IN THAT CASE WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT? OKAY, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR GENERAL DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER MAHAN, UH, NO QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.
UH, NO QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FOR MYSELF AS WELL THIS TIME? EXCELLENT.
MR. LADAY, NO QUESTIONS FOR ME.
COMMISSIONER LANDRY, NO QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT, AND WITH THAT I'M GOOD AS WELL.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MAHAN AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COLO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, EXCELLENT PASSAGE UNANIMOUSLY.
[15. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-24-0118 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to adopt the High Gabriel Township PUD (Planned Unit Development) with the base zoning district of SFS-2-B (Single-Family Suburban) on two (2) parcels of land approximately 12.75 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R362129 and R032227; and generally located south of High Gabriel East, approximately 1,100 feet east of US 183, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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WE'LL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z DASH 24 DASH ZERO 18.
TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM S FFR ONE B, SINGLE FAMILY RURAL TO ADOPT THE HIGH GABRIEL TOWNSHIP P PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF SFS DASH TWO B.
SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN ON TWO PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 12.75 ACRES IN SIZE, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCELS R 3 6 1 2 9 AND R 0 3 2 2 2 7.
AND GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF HIGH GABRIEL EAST, APPROXIMATELY 1100 FEET EAST OF US.
180 3 LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.
THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON HI GABRIEL EAST TO THE NORTH OF THE BRYSON SUBDIVISION, APPROXIMATELY 1100 FEET TO THE EAST OF 180 3.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A PETITION FOR THE ANNEXATION OF THIS TRACK.
THE REQUEST WOULD REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM THE INTERIM ZONING APPLIED AT ANNEXATION.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, IT IS BLANK BECAUSE THERE IS CURRENTLY NO ZONING.
UM, SO ONCE THIS GETS APPROVED, UM, ONCE THE ANNEXATION GETS APPROVED, THEN THEY'LL APPROVE THE, THE BAY ZONING AND THEN THIS WILL BE THE REZONING FROM THAT BASE.
UM, THE REQUEST WOULD REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM THE INTERIM ZONING TO SFS TO BE SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS.
THE PROPOSAL DOES COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL IDENTIFIED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSAL IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPTED TO LIMIT CONSIDERATION OF ZONING REQUESTS THAT SEEK TO ADD RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND IS AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO PRESENT? YES.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT? EXCELLENT.
PLEASE COME UP AND WE'LL ASK YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
MY NAME IS SARAH JOHNSON AND I LIVE ON REVA RIDGE.
FROM THAT NORTHERNMOST LOT R 0 3 2 2 7.
YES,
I HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED WRITTEN COMMENTS INCLUDING PHOTOGRAPHS REGARDING THE SAFETY OF THE ROAD AND DRAINAGE ISSUES.
SO I WILL NOT REPEAT THEM IN THEIR ENTIRETY HERE AS THEY SHOULD AL ALREADY BE PART OF THE WRITTEN RECORD.
I DO WANNA BRIEFLY DISCUSS HOWEVER PROCEDURAL CONCERNS THAT HAVE ARISEN SINCE SUBMITTING MY WRITTEN COMMENTS.
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GABRIEL ESTATES PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION AND TO BE CLEAR, WE DO NOT OFFICIALLY RE REPRESENT THE HIGH GABRIEL ESTATES PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.IT IS OUR BELIEF THAT THERE MAY BE, UH, SOME CONCERN REGARDING THE APPLICABILITY OF DEED RESTRICTIONS FOR THAT PROPERTY OWNER'S, UH, ASSOCIATION.
AND WE PUT THE BURDEN ON THE APPLICANT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THOSE DEED RESTRICTIONS FOR THAT NORTHERN MOST LOT.
BUT TO THE POINT, IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE POA WAS NOT NOTIFIED BY THE APPLICANT REGARDLESS OF THE INCLUSION OF THE LOT WITHIN THE POA, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, INCLUDING OUR PROPERTY, IS PART OF THE POA AND THEREFORE THE POA AS IT AS AN ENTITY SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED.
AND AGAIN, IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM THE POA BOARD, THEY WERE NOT NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS.
WE ATTENDED THE FIRST MEETING IN APRIL AND INFORMED THE APPLICANT OF THE PRESENCE OF THE POA AT THAT MEETING.
NEITHER WE NOR THE POA WERE INFORMED OF THE SECOND TOWN MEETING THAT EVIDENTLY, UH, OCCURRED.
UH, WE LEARNED ABOUT IT IN THE OUTREACH SUMMARY AS PART OF THE THIS AGENDA ITEM THAT THERE WAS A SECOND MEETING.
WE ATTENDED THE FIRST MEETING.
NEITHER US NOR THE POA WAS INFORMED ABOUT THE SECOND MEETING.
AND THIS WAS SUPPOSEDLY ATTENDED BY CITY STAFF AND WE WOULD'VE LIKED THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS WITH CITY STAFF.
JUST TODAY, WE DROVE DOWN HI GABRIEL EAST TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY NOTIFICATION SIGNS.
THERE WAS A SINGLE SIGN LAID FACE DOWN ON THE GROUND WITH NO EVIDENCE THAT IT HAD BEEN PROPERLY STAKED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND I DO HAVE PICTURES OF THAT.
THERE IS NO SIGNAGE WHATSOEVER ON THE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT FACES RIVA RIDGE.
SO THOSE OF US WHO LIVE ON RIVA RIDGE HAVE NOT BEEN NOTIFIED PROPERLY OR HAVE NOT BEEN NOTIFIED IN GOOD FAITH.
AGAIN, REGARDING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SIGNAGE AND THE, AND REGARDING THE REQUIREMENT TO NOTIFY THE POA FOR ALL OF THESE REASONS, THE APPLICANT HAS ACTED IN BAD FAITH AND HAS NOT MET THE LETTER NOR SPIRIT OF THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
IN CLOSING, I REQUEST THAT THIS ITEM BE TABLED.
WHY THE PROCEDURAL CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED AND PROPER AND GOOD FAITH PUBLIC NOTIFICATION BE COMPLETED.
THIS CITY HAS AN OBLIGATION TO REPRESENT NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, BUT THOSE OF US IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.
I'M OVER IN THE EXACT SAME PROPERTY AT 7 2 7 RIVA RIDGE.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TODAY.
YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY CONCERNED OVER THE PROPOSED ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT CHANGES.
RIVA RIDGE UNTIL VERY RECENTLY, WAS A DEAD END STREET.
IT WAS COUNTY MAINTAINED VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC ON IT AND ALL THAT CHANGED WHEN WE GOT NEIGHBORS AND THAT'S FINE, IT HAPPENS, BUT WE'VE SEEN A DEGRADATION OF THAT ROAD IN MANY PLACES.
IT'S BARELY WIDER THAN A SINGLE CAR WITH NO SHOULDER, WITH NO SIDEWALKS WALKING UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD, MUCH LESS DRIVING IS VERY DANGEROUS.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HAS A ROAD THAT THEY WANT TO CONNECT.
I WAS INFORMED ORIGINALLY THAT IT WAS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES ACCESS TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO THE PUD.
IF THERE ARE GONNA DO THAT, THE ROAD THAT THEY'RE GONNA PUT IN IS RIGHT BY A BLIND CORNER.
AND LITERALLY IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS, THERE HAVE BEEN TWO COLLISIONS OUTTA THAT INTERSECTION, SOME OF THEM HEAD ON.
AND THAT'S WITH THE LIMITED TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE TODAY WITH THE VERY FEW HOMES.
SO ADDING IN ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT INTO THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE ARTERY THERE IS GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR THAT.
ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, THE FLOODING AND THE RUNOFF.
THERE'S A DRY CREEK THAT RUNS DIRECTLY THROUGH THAT PROPERTY THAT EMPTIES OUT INTO THE RIVER ALREADY TODAY WITH THE RAINFALL THAT WE GET, IT FLOODS, IT GOES OVER THE ROAD, WASHES OUT CAUSES DAMAGE AND EROSION.
SO THE ADDITIONAL EXPANSION OF IMPERIAL COVER IS GONNA CAUSE MORE WATER TO GO DOWNSTREAM.
SO I JUST, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT, WHEN IT DOES OCCUR, TAKES ALL OF THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.
THE CAVALIER ATTITUDE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN, THAT THEY'VE NOTED OUR CONCERNS AND JUST SAID WE'LL DEAL WITH IT LATER.
THAT'S THE COMMUNICATION THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THEM.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK? SIR, PLEASE COME UP.
AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DID SPEAK, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT A CARD.
JUST PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UH, I AM THE OWNER OF REAVER RIDGE ASSISTED LIVING AND MEMORY CARE CENTER AT, UH, 8 0 1 RIVA RIDGE.
AND I RISE TO EXPRESS CONCERN AS THE OTHER GENTLEMAN DID, UH, REGARDING THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT ROAD.
UH, BRYON HAS OPENED UP THE EAST END OF RIVA RIDGE FOR THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
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WOULD BE COMING AT SOME POINT AND UH, WE WERE HOPING THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME WORK TO HELP IMPROVE RIVA RIDGE, WHICH IS PART OF THE COUNTY AND CONSIDER IT A PRIVATE ROAD.WELL, MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS CONSIDER SINCE I'M THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON THE ROAD THERE THAT I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRIVATE ROAD, THE MAINTENANCE OF IT, PARDON ME, STEEPER POCKETS THAN WHAT I CAN HANDLE.
NOW THAT WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT OPENING ON THE, UH, WEST END OF RIVA RIDGE AND THE EAST END OF RIVA RIDGE.
IN ADDITION TO THE COMMERCIAL, UH, FABRICATOR OF METALS ON THE VERY FAR EAST END OF RIVERRIDGE, RIVERRIDGE IS GETTING TO BE QUITE A DIFFICULT ROAD, UH, TO NAVIGATE.
SO I RISE AGAIN TO EXPRESS CONCERN FOR THAT, THAT THOSE WHO ARE DEVELOPING FROM BRYSON SHOULD BE OBLIGATED TO PICK UP SOME, UH, HELP IN, UH, IMPROVING THAT ROAD FOR NAVIGATION.
I DO HAVE AT LEAST, I'D SAY AT LEAST ON A MONTHLY BASIS, EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO MY FACILITIES, UH, NO LESS THAN THAT.
BUT LEANDER FIRE DOES COME DOWN THAT ROAD.
AND ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK TONIGHT? OKAY.
I DO HAVE SOME, UM, SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AVAILABLE THAT I BELIEVE ARE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO READ THESE INTO, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN, WE'LL MAKE SURE THEIR NAMES ARE ADDED TO THE RECORD.
OH, YOU WANNA SPEAK? SHE'S THE APPLICANT.
SO I'LL HAVE YOU COME UP IN A MINUTE TO ANSWER THESE.
UM, SO YEAH, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, UH, THAT WERE PRINTED OUT AND PROVIDED IN ADVANCE.
SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE READ INTO THE RECORD AND, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE POSITION IS NOTED.
SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND READ THEIR NAMES OR, OKAY.
I HAVE A SARAH JOHNSON, UH, WHO'S AGAINST.
AND THEN I HAVE A JEFF, UH, MOORE, WHO ALSO IS AGAINST, UH, JASON REEVES.
AND, UH, I BELIEVE HE IS ALSO AGAINST THIS ITEM.
AND THAT'S SARAH JOHNSON AGAIN, HAVE FAITH JOHNSON, WHO IS AGAINST, AND THEN JEFF MOORE WHO STATED THAT HE IS ALSO AGAINST WITH THAT, ANY MORE PEOPLE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS.
OKAY, SIR, FILED LINE, WHATEVER, NOT ON RECORD.
SO WE DON'T HAVE, SO, SO WE DON'T HAVE A BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION.
IF YOU WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE MATTER, YOU CAN SPEAK ABOUT IT AND HAVE THREE MINUTES, BUT, UH, BUT THIS IS NOT A TIME WHERE WE HAVE A BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION, SIR.
WITH THAT, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, WE'LL IF THE APPLICANT WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? OKAY.
DO I JUST NEED TO STATE MY NAME? YEAH, JUST STATE YOUR NAME.
SO I DID HEAR SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM, UM, THE RESIDENTS.
UM, THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT THEY HAD MENTIONED THAT I DO WANNA CLEAR UP.
UM, THE, THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WE HAD REACHED OUT TO THE OVERALL, UM, NEIGHBORS WITHIN, WITHIN THE 200 OR 500 FOOT REACH.
AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH EVERYONE AND ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITIES.
AND WE DID WANT TO JUST EXPLAIN THAT THIS IS FOR ZONING, WE'RE, WE HAVEN'T, UM, CREATED ANY KIND OF CONCEPT PLAN THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED YET.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE ROADWAY CONNECTIONS OR THE LOT LAYOUTS, THOSE THINGS ARE, WILL BE DETERMINED LATER.
BUT WE DO WANNA JUST STATE THAT THIS IS JUST FOR ZONING.
WE HAVE TO GET TO THIS PORTION FIRST BEFORE WE CAN DO ANY KIND OF LAYOUT OR DESIGN ASPECT.
AND AT THAT TIME WE HEAR THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THE DRAINAGE.
THEY HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS FLOODING DURING THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
AND, UM, THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS AT THAT TIME.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO ANY KIND OF FLOOD PLAIN WORK OR, UM, UPGRADES TO ANY KIND OF DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WILL BE A CONCERN IN THE FUTURE.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE CONNECTION TO, UH, RIVA RIDGE, THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT AT THE TIME WHEN WE HAVE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THAT WITH THE STRETCH OF THE PROPERTY, HOW IT'S A BIG OLD L SHAPE, WE WOULD NEED THE ACCESS POINTS, TWO POINTS OF ACCESS TO BE SO FAR AWAY FROM EACH OTHER.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE ACCESS POINTS.
SO THAT WAS A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
IT WAS ON OUR ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN.
BUT, UM, IF THE LAYOUT WAS TO GET REWORKED AND LOTS DECREASE AND WE DIDN'T NEED TO HAVE THAT CONNECTION ANYMORE, THAT IS A POSSIBLE OPTION.
BUT AT THIS TIME WE, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LAYOUT WILL BE, BUT WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE ZONING.
AND THIS WAS A ZONING THAT WAS RECOMMENDED DURING PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING AND, UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.
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BUT I, I GUESS IF, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO REACH OUT TO ME, ANY OF THE RESIDENCES OR THE POA, THEN I WOULD GLADLY SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND HAVE ANOTHER MEETING WITH THEM.UM, THE SECOND MEETING THAT WE DID HAVE, UH, THAT WAS A REQUEST BY THE BRYSON COMMUNITY AND THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T REACH OUT TO THE OVERALL GROUP OF PEOPLE AGAIN.
UM, THEY HAD THE HOA HAD REACHED OUT TO ME PERSONALLY THROUGH EMAIL AND THEN ASKED FOR ME TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM SEPARATELY.
SO I JUST WANNA CLEAR THAT UP.
THAT WE WEREN'T TRYING TO UNDERMINE ANYBODY.
WE MAY, WE MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AFTER, AFTER WE OH, OKAY.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND GO INTO DISCUSSION.
I'LL START WITH MY LEFT WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER COLO, VICE CHAIR COLON.
SORRY, I'M ALWAYS SENSITIVE TO THESE CASES WHERE RESIDENTS COME IN AND EXPRESS A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT SOMETHING.
BUT, UM, A LOT OF WHAT'S BEING EXPRESSED IS ROAD MAINTENANCE AND, UM, CIVIL ENGINEERING ISSUES REGARDING DRAINING.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS A ZONING CASE.
UM, I WILL, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL ASK A QUESTION TO STAFF IF STAFF WANTS TO ANSWER IT AT ALL.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT, YOU'VE HEARD THE CONCERNS, UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE DECISION PROCESS AT THIS TIME, UH, FOR, FOR THE ZONING DECISION.
UM, BUT IF YOU WANNA ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT WAS RAISED, PARTICULARLY THE, THE, UH, THE ROAD ACCESS AND THE NOTIFICATION ISSUE.
SO REGARDING ROAD AND DRAINAGE, THAT'S ENGINEERING RELATED.
SO WOULD IT BE SOMETHING WE LOOK AT TODAY? IT WILL BE LOOKED AT WHEN YOU DO THE SUBDIVISION PORTION AND THE SITE DEVELOPMENT, THE BUILDING PERMIT AND ALL OF THAT.
UM, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING, UM, THAT I HAVE ANSWERS FOR TODAY.
IT IS A COUNTY ROAD, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE, WE ARE MAINTAINING TODAY.
UM, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO IMPROVE THAT FOR THE RESIDENCE.
WE WOULD ONLY IMPROVE, UH, THE PORTION THAT IS ADJACENT IF WE ANNEX THAT PORTION.
UM, BUT WE WOULDN'T MAINTAIN THE REST OF THE ROAD.
UM, REGARDING DRAINAGE, THEY SHOULDN'T BE ALTERING THE DRAINAGE TO AFFECT ANY OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WHEN THEY DEVELOP.
SO EVERYTHING IN THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES SHOULD REMAIN THE SAME OR BETTER ONCE THAT SITE DEVELOPS.
UM, AND THEN REGARDING THE NOTIFICATION, SO THE, UM, APPLICANT IS SUPPOSED TO, UM, GET, UM, NOTIFY EVERYBODY WITHIN 500 FEET.
WE NOTIFY EVERYBODY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THEY CAN, THEY HAVE OPTIONS OF HOW THEY WANT TO NOTIFY.
IT'S, THERE'S NO REAL LIKE, CONCRETE WAY FOR THEM TO NOTIFY.
THEY CAN HOST MEETINGS, THEY CAN SEND LETTERS, THEY CAN GO DOOR TO DOOR.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT THEY CAN DO IT.
UM, SO THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO, UM, OUTREACH TO THE HOAS WITHIN 500 FEET AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500 FEET.
SO WE DID PROVIDE THE SUMMARY THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED.
UM, WE DON'T GO AND VERIFY THAT THEY SENT ALL THE LETTERS OR THAT THEY KNOCKED ON ALL THE DOORS, BUT IT'S KIND OF JUST THE LIKE, HONOR CODE KIND OF THING.
UM, I JUST, I JUST WANNA BE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, UH, THAT DECISION DOESN'T GO YOUR WAY.
IT'S NOT THAT YOU WEREN'T HEARD.
UH, AND IT'S NOT THAT STAFF, UH, DIDN'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
IT'S JUST THAT AT THIS POINT IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS, IT'S A ZONING CASE.
AND, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT REALLY.
THE, UH, AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE COMMENTS FROM THIS, THE CITIZENS MEETING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ASKED IS IF THE HEIGHTS COULD BE RESTRICTED TO ONE STORY ADJACENT TO THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD MM-HMM.
AND SINCE THE PUD DOCUMENT BECOMES THE ZONING, AND THAT IS NOT MENTIONED IN THE P DOCUMENT, THAT THAT'S WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE TRICKY FOR US, IS THAT YES, SOME OF THESE CONCERNS COME LATER IN THE PROCESS MM-HMM.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THESE CONCERNS ABOUT HEIGHT HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED IN, IN THE EXISTING P DOCUMENT.
YEAH, THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT, I GUESS.
UM, I AGREE WITH MY COMMISSIONERS, UM, AND I ECHO THEIR SENTIMENTS.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, BUT I MAY NEED TO FOLLOW UP AFTER I HEAR EVERYONE ELSE'S COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER MAY, SIX YEARS AGO, I, UH, STARTED MY POLITICAL CAMPAIGN BASED ON SIMILAR ISSUES THAT, UH, PEOPLE ARE FACING OUT THERE, THE QUESTIONS THEY HAVE BROUGHT FORTH.
AND IN THE FIRST YEAR, UM, COMMISSIONER MAHAN SERVED WITH ME BACK THEN, WE CHANGED THE RULES TO INCREASE THE NOTIFICATION.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT WAS FOR THE HOMEOWNERS TO MEET WITH THE DEVELOPERS.
BECAUSE IN A LOT OF THESE CASES, IT SEEMED LIKE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, UM, WAS THEY DIDN'T TALK.
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AND 500 PEOPLE SHOWED UP WITH STORIES THAT, UM, WOULD'VE BEEN RELIEVED IF PEOPLE WOULD'VE SAT DOWN.UM, IT'S KIND OF DISCOURAGING, UH, AND I'M NOT THROWING BLAME TOWARDS THE DEVELOPER FOR NOT NOTIFYING OR ANYTHING HERE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE, THERE HAS BEEN SOME MISCOMMUNICATION SOMEWHERE WHERE SOMEBODY MISSED A POINT AND DIDN'T SIT DOWN AND TALK.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SIT DOWN AND TALK.
UM, AS COMMISSIONER CL PUT POINTED OUT, THIS IS JUST THE ZONING.
IT DOES NOT GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO BUILD, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER PROCESS.
AND PART OF THAT IS WE DO LOOK AT THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN TO, UH, ENSURE THAT THE ROADWAYS ARE ADEQUATE.
WE LOOK AT DRAINAGE, AND THESE ARE WHERE WE HAVE THE ENGINEERS COME IN AND LOOK AT ALL THESE CONCERNS, AND WE DON'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME IN AND CREATE A WORSE FLOOD OR HUGE TRAFFIC JAMS. UM, AND I BELIEVE TO GET THE CITY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT ROAD, DON'T, DOESN'T THE PROPERTIES HAVE TO BE ANNEXED TO THE CITY THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
SO IF THEY WERE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, THE CITY TAKES CARE OF THE ROADWAYS, THAT THAT'S SOME OF THE ISSUE HERE.
UM, AS YOU'RE IN THE ETJ, UM, WOULD IT, I I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE A LATER CONVERSATION, THE POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING THE CRASH GATES FOR SO THE EMERGENCY CAN GET THROUGH, BUT NOT THROUGH TRAFFIC.
THAT THAT'S A DISCUSSION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
BUT THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, TH THIS IS THE ZONING PART OF IT, NOT THE, UH, PLATING.
SO THAT'S WHY I HAD TO SAY EXCELLENT COMMISSIONER.
MY ONLY QUESTION WAS, WAS THERE AN ATTEMPT AFTER THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE COMMENTS? OR AT LEAST SEND A RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE YEAH, PLEASE.
SO CAN YOU HEAR ME? DO I NEED TO ANNOUNCE MYSELF MY NAME AGAIN? YOU'RE GOOD.
SO, UM, WE DID, I DID HAVE EMAIL OUTREACH TO, UM, THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS SOUTH IN THE BRYSON DEVELOPMENT.
THEY HAD REACHED OUT TO ME BY EMAIL AND ASKED ME ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE DEVELOPED THERE, UM, IF THEY, IF WE CAN HAVE HIGHER FENCING, IF WE CAN ADD MORE SCREENING.
AND I TOLD THEM WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, SINCE I'M PART OF THE ENGINEERING DESIGN GROUP, WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE, WE ARE INSIDE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM TO ADD OR PROVIDE EXTRA SCREENING FOR THEM SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE RIGHT UP ADJACENT ON, ON OUR HOMES AND THEN HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
UM, THEY, THEY ALSO ASKED ABOUT, UM, MOVING HI GABRIEL AROUND TO SEE IF LIKE THINGS WOULD WORK OUT.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S, IT'S A VERY SMALL SLIVER OF LAND.
IT'S HARD TO FIT A ROAD AND ONE LOT, UM, IN BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES.
UM, IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO JUST MAKE IT GO STRAIGHT THROUGH HOW, HOW IT IS AND NOT JOG IT AROUND EVERYWHERE.
AND, UM, I HAVE HAD, UH, OUTREACH WITH THEM, BUT, UM, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PHONE NUMBERS TO REACH OUT TO ANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAD CONCERNS.
BUT WE DID HAVE A SIT DOWN TOGETHER AT, UM, THE BLUE CORN HARVEST ON OUR FIRST MEETING.
SO WE DID, WE WERE ABLE TO HASH OUT A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD AND, UM, I WROTE DOWN EVERYTHING THAT THEY, THEY WANTED TO ADDRESS.
BUT ONCE WE GET TO THAT SITE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THAT'S WHEN WE CAN ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THOSE, THOSE ITEMS. UM, I, I DID, I THINK THERE WAS A LADY THAT HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE ONE STORY HOMES, BECAUSE HER HOUSE WAS, I THINK ON THE, ON THE EAST SIDE ON THE LONG LITTLE SLIVER.
AND, UM, I TOLD HER THAT I WOULD TALK TO THE DEVELOPER AND THEN ASK, UH, WHAT THAT COULD POSSIBLY LOOK LIKE.
BUT I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT, HOW THE MARKET'S ALWAYS CHANGING.
WE, WE JUST DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, SO I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF AND MORE QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS AND OTHER STUFF TOO.
UM, IF, IF WE WANTED TO PUT IN THINGS SUCH AS HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS OR, UM, DESIGN MODIFICATIONS OR ROAD ACCESS, WOULDN'T THAT NEED TO BE IN THE PUT NOTES IN ORDER TO ENFORCE IT? YES.
SO I GO BACK TO WHAT COMMISSIONER LANDRY WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.
SO THIS, THIS PLAYS INTO ANOTHER COMMENT THAT I WAS GONNA HAVE EARLIER ABOUT, I I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE PUD TO
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ALLOW THEM THE ALTERNATIVE LOT STANDARDS.I WISH WE HAD THAT SO WE COULD DO STRAIGHT ZONING AND THEN THIS WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE WE COULD, WE COULD FIX ALL THOSE DESIGN ISSUES IF IT WAS A STRAIGHT ZONING CASE FURTHER DOWN THE LINE.
RIGHT? SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A MIXED BAG HERE.
WE NEED A PUD IN ORDER TO, FOR THEM TO GET THE RIGHT ZONING BECAUSE OF THE LOT STANDARDS AND THE LOT SIZES.
BUT WHEN WE DO THAT, IF WE DON'T PUT SOME OF THESE OTHER CONCERNS IN THE P THEY'RE NOT BEHOLDEN TO IT AT THAT POINT.
SO WE'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF IN A CATCH 22 AT THAT POINT.
UM, SO, UH, SO I ORIGINALLY HAD, YOU KNOW, NOT MUCH ISSUES WITH THE ZONING TO BE HONEST, BUT NOW I'M, I'M RECONSIDERING THAT, BUT I DO TAKE, UM, SLIGHT ISSUES.
SO I'LL GO BACK TO WHAT COMMISSIONER MAY WAS TALKING ABOUT.
UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE PUT INTO PLACE THE NOTIFICATION, UH, GUIDELINES OR RULES, HOWEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, UH, FOR A A, A VERY REAL PURPOSE.
AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE DENIED ZONING CASES OR PUSH, UH, POSTPONED ZONING CASES FOR FAILURE TO NOTIFY APPROPRIATELY.
AND THE REASON IS WE WANT THE CITIZENS TO BE NOTIFIED.
AND PART OF THOSE NOTIFICATION RULES ARE THAT HOAS UH, POAS IN THIS INSTANCE NEED TO BE NOTIFIED.
AND I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO WHAT HE SAID SHE SAID, BUT ACCORDING TO MY PACKET, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE THAT LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT EITHER BRYSON HOA OR THEIR POA WAS NOTIFIED, RIGHT.
THE INDIVIDUALS WERE NOTIFIED.
AND THAT'S CLEARLY STATED IN THERE.
SO FOR THAT REASON, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA BE AGAINST THIS UNTIL WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPER NOTIFICATION AND, AND, UH, REQUISITE, UH, PROCEDURAL THINGS HAPPEN.
SO IN ADDITION, JUST IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, WE DO USUALLY GET A LIST, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IF WE GOT ONE FOR THIS ONE, I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT I CAN DOUBLE CHECK.
WE USUALLY GET A LIST OF WHO THEY NOTIFIED.
WE JUST DON'T INCLUDE IT IN THE PACKET BECAUSE IT INCLUDES INFORMATION WE CAN'T SHARE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT BECAUSE IT, IT CLEARLY STATES THAT HEY, WE HAVE A LIST OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE NOTIFIED.
BUT IT TALKS ABOUT THE PEOPLE, IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL ASSOCIATIONS.
AND NORMALLY WHEN IT DOES INCLUDE AN ASSOCIATION, WE GET, IT'S KIND OF INCLUDED IN THERE SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE REQUISITE ASSOCIATIONS WE'RE NOTIFIED AS WELL.
I KNOW THAT THE BRYSON HOA WAS NOTIFIED 'CAUSE WE HAD THE MEETING OR WE WERE AT THE SAME MEETING WHEN THEY HAD THE MEETING WITH THE BRYSON HOA.
WE JUST HAPPENED TO BE THERE FOR A DIFFERENT CASE.
UM, SO WE KNOW THAT THAT ONE GOT NOTIFIED OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I'D HAVE TO GO AND CONFIRM THE OTHER ONE.
AND, AND, AND AGAIN, NOW THAT WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH, UM, BRYSON, BRYSON REQUESTED THE MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER.
THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN BRYSON BEING NOTIFIED AND, AND DOING THAT.
AND, UM, I CAN SEE BRYSON COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OKAY.
BUT I IS THE OTHER ASSOCIATION IS I, GABRIEL? YEAH, I DON'T SEE THAT ON THE LIST.
UNLESS IT'S UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME.
I DUNNO IF THE APPLICANT COULD CONFIRM IF THEY HAD THAT CONTACT OR NOT.
WELL, FOR FOR THE RECORD, SHE'S, SHE'S NOT SURE SHE, YEAH, SHE'S NOT SURE.
THAT WAY IT'S INTO THE RECORD.
IN MY COMMENTS, Y'ALL, I MEAN, I'LL ECHO A LOT OF YOUR SIMILAR SENTIMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, A A AS MANY OF YOU HAVE ALREADY CALLED OUT, I'M ACTUALLY OKAY WITH THE, WITH THE ZONING.
BUT BASED ON THE PUD DESIGNATION HERE, I'M ALMOST LIKE EITHER WILLING TO SAY, SHOULD WE LOOK AT PULLING THE PUT OUT OF THIS AND JUST APPROVE THE ZONING? CAN WE DO THAT OR DO WE POSTPONE THIS AND HAVE THEM REWORK THIS AND BRING IT BACK TO US? 'CAUSE I'M ALSO THINKING MAYBE THIS, THIS IS, THIS, TO ME, THIS IS THE RIGHT THING FOR THIS PROPERTY IS PUTTING EITHER A SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN OR POSSIBLY A SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE, WHICH WOULD BE A LARGER ROOM, KIND OF MATCHES WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, BASED ON 12.75 ACRES WHEN YOU PUT ROADS IN AND THE GRADING AND ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT BETWEEN 12 TO MAYBE 30 HOUSES.
UH, BUT THERE ARE LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS OF, YOU KNOW, 70 TO 80, 80 FEET, UH, WIDE, UM, BASED ON WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED ON A CORNER OR INLINE AND A HUNDRED, YOU KNOW, 105 FEET DEEP.
SO THEY'RE STILL DECENT SIZED LOTS, BUT I'M JUST THINKING WE, WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER EITHER POSTPONING THIS OR SEE IF WE WANT TO JUST PULL THE PUTT OUT AND JUST APPROVE THE ZONING PIECE OF IT.
SO WHEN YOU SAY PULL THE PUT, LIKE NOT APPROVE THE ROOF, NOT APPROVE THE PUD STANDARDS, BUT APPROVE BUT APPROVE THE ZONING.
CAN WE DO THAT? SO THE PUT IS THE ZONING? THE PUT IS THE ZONING? YEAH.
THEN IN THAT CASE, I'M PROBABLY GONNA BE IN SIMILAR STATE WITH COMMISSIONER MAHAN ON THIS THAT I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK AND REPORT THIS.
SO THAT WAY IT'S MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS THERE.
DID YOU WANT TO, SORRY, I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T MADE A MOTION YET, BUT ARE YOU GOING TO NOT YET, UM, TRY AND TABLE IT OR JUST, AND, UH, WELL I DEFER TO YOU.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE TABLE THIS? SO, AND LET THEM REWORK IT COME BACK? TYPICALLY, YOU, YOU COULD, UM, THAT WOULD PUT IT THE TUESDAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING AND WE COULD HAVE A MEETING.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE PUBLIC NOTICES RIGHT NOW.
SO IF WE NEED TO DO THAT, WE CAN, I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A QUORUM FOR THE MEETING.
'CAUSE IF WE DO THAT, BUT THEN OBVIOUSLY WE DENY IT, THEN IT'S GONNA
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GO TO COUNCIL AND THEY'LL LOOK AT IT AND THEY'LL EITHER REVIEW IT BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE SEEN HERE AND THEN THAT COULD PUSH IT, POSTPONE IT EVEN LONGER.UM, WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO DELAY THAT PROCESS FOR YOU EITHER UNDERSTANDING THAT.
SO I, I'D BE OPEN TO TABLING IT SO WE CAN GO BACK AND TRY TO REWORK IT AND MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST THE LANGUAGE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN THE PUD ADDRESSES SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS WITH HEIGHT AND SO FORTH.
SO THE ACTION WOULD BE TO POSTPONE IT TO THAT MEETING DATE.
AND, AND SO SINCE WE NEED A MOTION IN ORDER TO DO THAT, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO POSTPONE, UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
AND IT ALSO HELPS OUT OUR WONDERFUL CITY COUNCIL 'CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF THESE ISSUES BEFOREHAND, ADDRESS A LOT OF THE PUBLIC'S CONCERNS BEFOREHAND AND BE ABLE TO GET A GOOD PRODUCT FOR THE DEVELOPER AS WELL, ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
IS IT TO POSTPONE TO NOVEMBER 26TH? YEP.
AND THAT'S A TUESDAY? YES, I'LL BE HERE.
I HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE FROM COMMISSIONER MAHAN.
SECONDED BY, IS THAT COMMISSIONER COLON? YEP.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO POSTPONE.
CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? SO ARE YOU ASKING THE, UM, APPLICANT TO WORK ON THEIR OUTREACH WITH THAT COMMUNITY AS PART OF THE POSTPONEMENT? OR WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE DOING BETWEEN NOW AND THEN? I I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST IMPROVE THE OUTREACH.
'CAUSE THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE HERE WHO SAID THEY HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING AND I THINK THAT WAS CERTAINLY PART OF COMMISSIONER HAN'S CONCERNS AS WELL.
SO I DO THINK THAT'S PART OF IT.
AND THEN I THINK WE NEED TO WORK ON THE, THE PUD NOTES AS FAR AS WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE WITH HEIGHT AND SO FORTH.
IS HEIGHT THE ONLY CONCERN? UH, ARE YOU SAYING CONCERNS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH CONCERNS, CONCERNS IN NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH AND CONCERNS WITH, WITH THE DESIGNATION OF THE PUD WITH THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON THE HOMES.
LIMITING TO ONE STORY VERSUS TWO AND ACCESS AND, AND ROAD ACCESS.
YEAH, BECAUSE THE ROAD ACCESS WAS ALSO A CONCERN THAT I HAD AS WELL, ESPECIALLY ON RIVA RIDGE AND I'VE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS, UH, IT'S A COUNTY ROAD AND IT KIND OF REMINDS ME OF COUNTY ROAD 1 77 AND IF YOU MEMBER COUNSEL ACTUALLY DECIDED TO SHUT THAT LOW WATER CROSSING RIDGE DOWN, UM, FOR SAFETY REASONS.
UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
WE DON'T ASK, WE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE.
UH, THE, THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED THIS TIME, SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED THIS TIME.
[16. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-24-0123 to amend the Northline Planned Unit Development on several parcels of land approximately 115.7076 acres ± in size, out of the William Mancil Survey, Abstract No. 437, the Talbot Chambers Survey, Abstract No. 125; and generally located south of East San Gabriel Parkway and approximately 200 feet east of US 183, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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THIS IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z DASH 24 DASH 0 1 23 TO AMEND THE NORTHLINE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT ON SEVERAL PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 115.7076 ACRES IN SIZE OUT OF THE, UH, WILLIAM, SORRY, WILLIAM, UH, MANSELL SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 4 37, THE TALBOT CHAMBER SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 1 25.
AND GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF EAST SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY AND APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET EAST OF US.
180 3 LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.
UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
COREY DELL PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
WELCOME ALL THE NEW COMMISSIONERS.
HI, HOPE YOU'RE ALL ARE DOING WELL.
UM, SO THIS IS THE, UH, FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF 180 3 A TOLL ROAD AND SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY, SOUTH OF THE SAN, UH, SAN SAN DAVID'S HOSPITAL DEVELOPMENT IN NORTH OF THE A CC SAN GABRIEL CAMPUS.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE AERIAL, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO AMEND THE NORTHLINE POD TO ALLOW FOR THE REMOVAL OF A DEFINED AREA FROM THE NORTH LINE DEVELOPMENT FOR ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY AND RETAIL USES.
ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, PROVIDED MODIFICATIONS TO EXHIBITS A, B, D, AND F OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, UH, NORTHLINE PUD.
UH, WE'LL COVER SOME OF THOSE, UH, IN YOUR PACKET.
SO TONIGHT, UH, THE, THE MASTER DEVELOPER IS HERE.
UM, HE WILL HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AFTER STAFF'S, UH, ITEM, UH, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN UP QUESTIONS.
SO I'M SURE THERE MAY BE MANY.
UM, SO THERE ARE SOME SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS WITH THIS PROJECT.
UH, THIS REQUEST INCLUDES, UH, AN OPTION FOR THE REMOVAL OF A PORTION OF THE, UH, OF A PORTION OF THE EXISTING NORTHLINE PUD PROPERTY TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE NORTHLINE RETAIL PUD, WHICH I BELIEVE YOU'VE SEEN, UH, TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG 180 3 A TOLL.
I THINK WE HAVE A PICTURE RIGHT HERE.
SO THIS IS THAT AREA RIGHT HERE, UH, TO SET THE STAGE FOR THE ZONING.
WE KIND OF COVERED ON THIS, BUT, UH, GO TO THE ZONING MAP REAL QUICK.
TO THE NORTH IS T FIVE URBAN CENTER.
TO THE EAST IS, UH, A PUD UNDER
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GENERAL COMMERCIAL.IT IS UNDEVELOPED TO THE SOUTH IS A, AN ADDITIONAL P UNDER THE TOD AND THAT IS THE A CC CAMPUS.
AND TO THE WEST IS ANOTHER PUD, UH, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, AND IT SITS UNDEVELOPED.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UH, SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF 180 3 A TOLL ROAD AND THE SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY.
UM, WE'VE COVERED ALL THE ITEMS THAT IT'S BOUND BY.
UH, CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON SOME OF THE BLOCKS, UH, AND DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY TREE COVERAGE OR CREEKS.
THIS PROJECT WAS, UH, ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, UH, IN, UH, 1997 AND THE REST FOR IN 2000.
UH, AND FIVE, SOME ADDITIONAL HISTORY OR TIMELINE OF THE PROJECT.
THE, UH, INITIAL NORTHLINE, UH, PUD AND CONCEPT PLAN WAS APPROVED IN 2018.
UH, THERE WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, WHICH IS MINUTE NUMBER ONE IN 2000, UH, 19.
UH, THIS ITEM WAS RECENTLY ON ONE OF YOUR AGENDAS, BUT WAS POSTPONED.
UH, AND THAT WAS ON THE SEPTEMBER 12TH AGENDA.
UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, THAT ITEM WAS BRIEFLY COVERED.
UM, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU SAW THE ORDINANCE, UH, RED LINES, UH, COUNSEL HELD A BRIEFING WORKSHOP ON THE 19TH, UH, WITH THE DEVELOPER STAFF, UM, AND I BELIEVE YOU WERE INCLUDED AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN THE, THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, UH, AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE, UH, RECENTLY, UH, THIS YEAR.
SO TONIGHT IS THE AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO.
THERE'S QUITE A FEW THINGS TO, UH, GET TO.
SO, UM, IF WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AFTER WE GO OVER OUR REPORT, WE CAN GET TO THAT.
UM, THE PROPERTY HAS ACCESS TO THE SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY AND 180 3 TOLL ROAD.
IT ALSO CONTAINS, UM, TWO THOROUGHFARES THAT ARE PART OF OUR MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN IN, UH, MAIN STREET AND COLLEGE WAY.
THE MAIN STREET IS A COLLECTOR ROAD, AND IT HAS VARYING RIGHT OF WAYS.
I THINK IT VARIES BETWEEN 60 FOOT, UH, AND 54 FOOT RIGHT OF WAYS.
WE ALSO HAVE SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY, WHICH IS CLASSIFIED AS AN ARTERIAL.
IT'S A HUNDRED, UH, 26 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE 180 3, UH, ACCESS AS WELL.
AND THAT'S A 400 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY ACCESS CONTROLLED.
UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL SUBDIVISION CASES ON THE PROPERTY THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD, UH, AND APPROVED, UM, EXISTING UTILITIES FOR THE SITE.
IT HAS BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER, UH, IN THE AREA.
I, THE, UH, EXHIBITS ARE IN YOUR, UH, PACKET.
UH, AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION I THINK TODAY.
UM, THERE ARE TOWNHOMES, UH, ACTIVE AND THERE'S ALSO A COUPLE OF BLOCKS THAT ARE DEVELOPED, UH, UNDER MULTIFAMILY.
SO PUBLIC NOTIFICATION SINCE THE LAST CASE WAS DISCUSSING THE NOTIFICATIONS STAFF MAILED, UM, UH, TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FOOT OF THE PROPERTY.
THERE ARE NO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES OR HOAS THAT ARE WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES.
SO NO ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH WAS REQUESTED.
WE'LL GET INTO THE, UM, STAFF ANALYSIS.
UM, THIS IS NOT, I WANNA BE CLEAR, THIS IS NOT ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU SAW IN YOUR RED LINE, UH, PUD THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTED, UH, ITEMS THAT, UH, WERE FELT TO BE, UH, SOME OF THE MAJOR, UM, REVISIONS.
AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS AND GO ITEM BY ITEM, WE CERTAINLY CAN.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO AMEND THE EXISTING NORTHLINE PUD IN ORDER TO REMOVE A DEFINED AREA FROM THE NORTHLINE DEVELOPMENT FOR ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY AND CONVENTIONAL RETAIL USES.
AGAIN, THAT'S THE ENDEAVOR PUD, THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO ADDED AN ADDITIONAL PORTION OF THE NORTHLINE DEVELOPMENT AS AN OPTIONAL AREA, UH, WHEREIN AN OWNER MAY DEVELOP UNDER EITHER THE NORTHLINE PUD OR THEY CAN ELECT TO DEVELOP UNDER THE, UH, NORTHLINE RETAIL PUD, WHICH IS AGAIN THE ENDEAVOR, UH, AREA.
ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO AGAIN, EXHIBIT A, UH, B, D, AND F OF THE PREVIOUSLY, UH, APPROVED NORTHLINE PUD, ALONG WITH A, UH, UH, JUSTIFICATION STATEMENT AS TO THE RATIONALE BEHIND THE MODIFICATION.
UM, AND THOSE WERE IN YOUR, UH, PACKET.
THAT BEING SAID, PLEASE REFERENCE THE ATTACHED, UH, RED LINE PUTT AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, WHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED, EXHIBITS A AND L AND THE LETTER OF INTENT FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, INFORMATION STAFF HAS PROVIDED THE BELOW, UH, HIGHLIGHTS TO THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
SO, UM, IN EXHIBIT A, THERE WAS PUD VERBIAGE.
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PROVIDED A, UH, A NEW EXHIBIT CALLED EXHIBIT A DASH FOUR, WHICH INCLUDED THE, UM, EXCLUDED PARCEL THAT'S TIED TO THE NORTHLINE, UH, RETAIL PUD PROJECT.I PROVIDED THE CASE NUMBER AS ZERO Z 24 0 1 2 7.
THIS CHANGE REMOVES A PORTION OF THE ORIGINAL NORTHLINE PUD AND ALLOWS FOR A CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING CHANGES TO EXHIBIT B.
UH, OF NOTE, UH, THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL, UH, AN ADDITION OF THE OPTIONAL SITE AREA AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT C DASH TWO.
AN OWNER OF THE OPTIONAL SITE, AREA, OR PORTION THEREOF MAY DEVELOP VIA, UH, NORTHLINE PUD, OR THEY MAY ELECT TO DEVELOP UNDER THE NORTHLINE RETAIL PUD.
AGAIN, THAT'S THE ENDEAVOR PUD, UH, PROVIDED THAT THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE EXCLUDED PARCEL OR ADJACENT TO A ROADWAY BORDERING THE EXCLUSIVE EXCLUDED PARCEL.
THERE WAS ALSO A MODIFICATION TO, UH, CHAPTER FOUR, UH, ITEM A SIX TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL WARRANTS FOR BLOCKS PXF AND J WITH RESPECT TO THE BLOCK PERIMETER AND BLOCK FACE LENGTH.
UH, YOU CAN SEE EXHIBIT CI DO NOT HAVE IT AVAILABLE.
I CAN ONLY, THIS IS EXHIBIT F, SO WE'LL, I'LL REFERENCE THIS HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
UH, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR MAY GRANT THESE WARRANTS, UH, AND SINCE HAVES, I BELIEVE, UH, AS LONG AS ALLIE'S DRIVES PEDESTRIAN PASSAGES OR CIVIC SPACES OR OTHER PUBLIC SPACES ARE INCLUDED IN THOSE BLOCKS TO BREAK UP THE LINK, UH, MODIFICATIONS TO CHAPTER 6.3, 0.1 B TO REMOVE CERTAIN GROUND FLOOR RETAIL RESTAURANT USES ALONG FRONTAGES.
AND THIS INVOLVES EXHIBIT F THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU.
UH, AND INSTEAD PROVIDE FOR COMMERCIAL AND OR COMMON SPACE OR CONVERTIBLE TO COMMERCIAL USES.
AND WE'LL COVER THIS IN MORE DEPTH, UM, IN A MINUTE.
UH, I HAVE, UH, PULLED OUT THE DEFINITIONS TO THESE ITEMS. SO COMMON SPACE AREA IS DEFINED AS A PRIVATE MULTIFAMILY OR CONDO AMENITY, SUCH AS LEASING OFFICES, LOBBY FITNESS CENTER, AND THE LIKE.
CONVERTIBLE TO COMMERCIAL USES IS DEFINED AS BUILT TO COMMERCIAL CODE, UH, OR, AND STANDARDS FOR THE EASY CONVERSION TO RETAIL COMMERCIAL USES, UH, AS THE MARK MARKET DICTATES.
UH, SO IT COULD BE, UM, AN AMENITY TO SAY, UM, MULTIFAMILY SUCH AS A GYM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN IN THE FUTURE, UH, IT COULD, IT'S, IT'S CONSTRUCTED TO COMMERCIAL STANDARDS.
AND IN THE FUTURE, UH, A COMMERCIAL USE COULD, UH, TAKE THAT TENANT SPACE, UH, MODIFICATION OF CHAPTER SIX POINT A POINT 18 A TO ALLOW AN ADDITIONAL 10% COMPACT PARKING SPACES.
UM, PREVIOUSLY IT WAS 20% MAX, NOW IT'S 30% MAX OR THE 10%.
AND THERE IS A CONDITION PLACED ON THAT, UM, UH, WITH THE APPROVAL OF A PARKING PLAN.
SO THE, THE DEVELOPER WILL PLAY A PARKING PLAN FOR THE BLOCK OR THE AREA.
UM, AND STAFF WILL REVIEW IT AND, UH, TAKE A LOOK IF THAT JUSTIFICATION WARRANTS THE 10% COMPACT PARKING INCREASE.
UH, THERE IS A MODIFICATION TO CHAPTER SIX POINT A 0.63 AND 64 TO ALLOW A WARRANT PROCESS, UH, REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR MECHANICAL AND UTILITY EQUIPMENT AND OTHER MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT AT FRONTAGES, UH, TO BE VISIBLE FROM THE, UH, FRONTAGE, THE ROAD FRONTAGE SUBJECT TO SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.
THERE'S ALSO AN ADDITION, UH, IN CHAPTER SIX POINT A 0.66 TO RESTRICT BLOCKS A AND B FROM MULTIFAMILY USES UNLESS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR, UH, THROUGH FINDINGS OF FACT THAT THE MULTIFAMILY USE, UH, THAT THE MULTIFAMILY USE IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
ADDITION OF TERMS IN SECTION, UH, SEVEN TO FURTHER DEFINE COMMON AREA SPACE AND RETAIL DEFINITION WITH EXHIBIT F.
AND WE COVERED ONE OF THOSE ITEMS. UH, THESE ARE HIGHLIGHTS TO EXHIBIT C.
THERE'S AN UPDATE OF BLOCK NAMES, STREET NAMES, AND, UM, TO SHOW THE REMOVAL OF THE EXCLUDED PARCEL AREA THAT IS TIED TO THE NORTH NORTHLINE RETAIL POD, WHICH YOU SEE RIGHT HERE.
THERE'S ALSO AN ADDITION OF EXHIBIT C DASH TWO TO SHOW THE LIMITS AND BOUNDARIES OF THE OPTIONAL SITE AREA.
UH, AGAIN, AN OWNER OF THE OPTIONAL SITE AREA MAY DEVELOP UNDER THE NORTHLINE POD OR ELECT TO DEVELOP UNDER THE NORTHLINE RETAIL PUD, UH, PROVIDED THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE EXCLUDED PARCEL OR ADJACENT TO THE ROADWAY, BORDERING THE EXCLUDED PARCEL IN EXHIBIT D MODIFICATION TO REPRESENT NORTHLINE, UH, PUT AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO SHOW THE STREET SECTION CHANGES OF MAIN STREET, UH, ADJACENT TO
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UH, CIVIC SPACE P DASH ONE.SO THAT WAS ALREADY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
NOW THE NORTHLINE EXHIBIT, UH, D REFLECTS THE, THE CHANGE THAT WAS APPROVED AND THIS IS EXHIBIT F.
SO THERE WAS ADDITION OF TWO NEW LINE WORKS, UH, THE COLOR, ROYAL BLUE AND MAGENTA.
UM, EACH NEW LINE WORK REPRESENTS THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, TYPE OF BUILDING FRONTAGE ALONG A MAIN STREET WITHIN THE NORTH LINE PUD.
THERE IS THE REMOVAL OF RETAIL FRONTAGES AND RETAIL CONVERTIBLE, UH, RETAIL GROUND FLOOR USES ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXCLUDED PARCEL THAT IS TIED TO THE NORTHLINE, UH, RETAIL POD AND THE OPTIONAL SITE AREA.
UM, THERE IS A MODIFICATION FROM 100% RETAIL USES TO COMMERCIAL AND OR, UH, COMMON AREA SPACE AT GROUND FOUR FOR THE HARD CORNERS OF BLOCK O AND N.
THAT'S AT, UH, MAIN AND WILLIAM PARKER STREETS.
THERE IS A MODIFICATION TO, LET'S SEE, BUILDING FRONTAGES AT GROUND FLOOR.
UH, UM, MAY INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING, A HUNDRED PERCENT COMMERCIAL, UM, FOR A MINIMUM OF 25% COMMERCIAL, A MINIMUM OF 25% COMMON AREA USES OR COMMERCIAL USES A MAXIMUM OF 50% CONVERTIBLE TO COMMERCIAL USES.
AND IT MAY ALSO INCLUDED, UH, COMMON AREA USES.
AND THESE PERCENTAGES MAY BE ADMINISTRATIVELY AMENDED TO ACCOMMODATE UP TO 5% CHANGE.
UH, AND THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL MAY BE INCREASED BY ANY PERCENTAGE.
AND THAT IS FOR BLOCK F ABUTTING MAIN STREET.
UM, AND THE NEXT ITEM, SORRY, THIS IS A LOT TO KEEP TRACK OF THE APPROVAL, I GUESS.
SO AGAIN, WE CAN COVER ANY OF THE ITEMS, UH, IF I WASN'T CLEAR OR IF YOU JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON IT, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
UM, SO, UM, YOU CAN REFERENCE THE, UH, STAFF ANALYSIS SECTION, WHICH WE COVERED.
SO, UM, HOPEFULLY YOU HAD TIME TO, UM, REVIEW THE PLANNING ANALYSIS.
UH, ITEMS, UH, STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE MODIFICATIONS, UH, PROPOSED UNDER THE AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO THE NORTHLINE PUD.
UM, THE PRO PROPOSAL, UM, OH, HERE WE GO.
THE PROPOSAL DOES COMPLY WITH, UH, DOES ADDITIONALLY COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED IN AN ACTIVITY CENTER, UH, CATEGORY DEFINED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, THEREFORE STAFF, UH, SUPPORTS THE, UH, NORTHLINE, UH, AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO.
UH, SO AGAIN, THE DEVELOPER IS HERE WITH A SHORT POWERPOINT AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE, UH, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPER FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU MAY HAVE.
AND WHILE, UH, HE'S SWITCHING THE POWERPOINT, UM, WE DID HAND OUT AN UPDATED EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, UM, FOR A CORRECTION AS WELL AS THE EXHIBIT AND KIND OF A BLOW UP OF THE CHANGES, SO Y'ALL CAN LOOK AT THAT.
WE'LL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, I'M SURE.
UH, APPLICANT, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK, SAY ANYTHING? IT'S CONTROL L.
UH, I'M ALEX TYBERG, UH, WITH NORTHLINE.
THANK YOU CHAIR OLIVER AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSION, UH, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THIS, UH, PUTT AMENDMENT TO YOU FOR FORMAL ACTION TODAY.
THE NORTHLINE HISTORY IS INCLUDED HERE FOR REFERENCE, UH, AND WAS INCLUDED IN MY LAST PRESENTATION TO YOU, UH, A NUMBER OF WEEKS AGO.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE ELEVATED CALIBER OF THE ENDEAVOR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, DRIVING THE PRIMARY NEED FOR FOR THE PUTT AMENDMENT.
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THERE HAS BEEN RECENT DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE VISION OF THE NORTHLINE PROJECT HAS CHANGED.BELOW IS A COMPARISON FROM THE CITY OF LEANDER APPROVAL BACK IN 2018 ON THE LEFT TO THE MOST RECENT PLAN ON THE RIGHT PRIOR TO THE ENDEAVOR.
RETAIL CHANGES WITH RESPECT TO THE CURRENT PLANS, WHICH ARE SHOWN HERE ON THE RIGHT, THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRADITIONAL OFFICE REMAINS ACROSS THE PROJECT AS COMPARED TO THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT IN 2018.
THE FOUR LARGE BUILDINGS ALONG THE 180 3 A TOLLWAY, WHICH WERE OFFICE BUILDINGS, HAVE BEEN RELOCATED TO BLOCK B UP ON THE NORTH, UH, SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY, UH, SECTION, WHILE OTHER AREAS REMAIN SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME.
OUTSIDE OF THE TRADITIONAL OFFICE COMPONENT NOTED ABOVE THE ENDEAVOR RETAIL OPTION AREA REPLACES ONLY RESIDENTIAL, INCLUDING NUMEROUS MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS, A FEW TOWN HOMES, AND NO OTHER PRODUCT TYPE.
SO THIS IS REALLY GENERATING MORE PUBLIC COMMERCIAL SPACE THAN THE PREVIOUS PLANT.
IT ALSO PROVIDES SUBSTANTIALLY MORE RETAIL THAT IS FAST TRACKED INTO THE PROJECT AND DESIGNED WITH MORE ACCESSIBILITY IN ADDITIONAL WALKABILITY.
THE SAME AMOUNT OF OVERALL COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS INDICATED, UH, LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.
IT PROVIDES FOR A REDUCTION OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS, PARTICULARLY MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS A CITY OF LEANDER COUNCIL PRIORITY.
AND THE ORIGINAL DESIGN AROUND TOWN SQUARE REMAINS SUB SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME.
SO ANY LARGE TOWN CENTER DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IS GONNA CHANGE AND MORPH OVER TIME.
ANY EXPECTATION THAT NORTHLINE WAS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED EXACTLY THE WAY THAT THE CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN SHOWED IN 2018 IS JUST NOT BASED IN REALITY.
IT'S CRITICAL THAT NORTHLINE WORKS CLOSELY WITH CITY LEADERSHIP TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT AS MARKET REALITIES IMPACT THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WHICH IS, WHICH HAS BEEN DONE HERE.
NORTHLINE'S INITIAL VERTICAL PROJECTS HAVE INCLUDED ELEVATED STANDARDS OF SUPERIOR QUALITY STREET SCAPES, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY BUILDING FACADE DESIGN FOR AN ENHANCED WALKABILITY EXPERIENCE.
OUR DESIGN INCORPORATES PREMIER CIVIC SPACES.
YOU'LL SEE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT NORTHLINE CIRCLE, THAT PROJECT IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE INSTALLED NEXT WEEK, UM, WITH A RIBBON CUTTING EVENT ON DECEMBER 3RD.
AND YOU'RE ALL INVITED TO ATTEND.
IN TERMS OF THE, THE MAJOR PUTT AMENDMENT, WHICH WAS DESCRIBED EARLIER BY MR. DALE, IT PROVIDES ENDEAVOR WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR ADDITIONAL ADJACENT ACREAGE TO DO RETAIL MAINTENANCE OF THE OVERALL NORTHLINE VISION WITH DENSITY AND WALKABILITY THROUGHOUT THE CORE OF NORTH LINE, PARTICULARLY AROUND TOWN SQUARE REMAINS INTACT, WHICH SETS LEANDER APART, WILL SET LEANDER APART FROM NUMEROUS SURROUNDING SUBURBAN MARKETS.
THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DESIGN AROUND TOWN SQUARE TO CONTAIN THE MAJORITY OF BUILDING FRONTAGES WITH GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL USES WITH OTHER GROUND FLOOR ACTIVE COMMON USES REMAINS.
AND ANYTHING THAT IS NOT IN THOSE CATEGORIES IS RE IS BUILT TO A RETAIL CONVERTIBLE STANDARD.
AND WITH HIGH QUALITY STREET SCAPES, NORTHLINE REMAINS THE ONLY PROJECT WITHIN THE LEANDER TOD THAT MEETS THE INTENT OF THE LEANDER SMART CODE STANDARDS AND NORTHLINE'S PUD CHANGES HAVE ADDRESSED THE RECENT AND CURRENT CITY COUNCIL PREFERENCES FOR COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL IN PARTICULAR OVER MULTIFAMILY, WHEREBY NORTHLINE HAS RESTRICTED MULTIFAMILY IN BLOCKS A AND B UP ON THE TOP OF THE, OF THE SITE PLAN AND THE PRECLUSION OF THE POTENTIAL FOR FOUR ORIGINALLY PLANNED ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS IN THE ENDEAVOR.
NORTHLINE AND ENDEAVOR HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL ON THE ZONING COORDINATION SINCE DECEMBER OF 2023, ALMOST A YEAR AGO, AND HAVE ARRIVED AT THE CURRENT PUD ZONING FRAMEWORK.
THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT DIALOGUE AND COLLABORATION AMONG THE PARTIES, WHICH IS CAPTURED IN THE CURRENT PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.
THE PARTIES ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD TO EXECUTE OUR SHARED VISION, AND NORTHLINE HAS ALSO, UH, WANNA TALK ABOUT THE, THE DISCUSSION EARLIER TONIGHT IS COORDINATED WITH ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN NORTHLINE WHO HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR THESE RETAIL AMENITIES WITHIN NORTHLINE AND ARE, ARE IN UNANIMOUS SUPPORT OF THESE PROPOSED CHANGES IN THE, IN THE PUD ZONING IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE EXECUTION OF THE ENDEAVOR RETAIL PROJECT.
AND, AND MANY OF THOSE FOLKS WERE HERE AT THE LAST MEETING.
THAT IS, IT IS FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PUTT AMENDMENT WITHOUT EXCEPTIONS OR CONCERNS.
THE ITEMS BELOW HAVE BEEN FURTHER COORDINATED OR CLARIFIED THE STAFF SATISFACTION OVER THE LAST WEEK.
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I'M GONNA SKIP OVER THESE ITEMS. NORTHLINE STILL MEETS THE COMMERCIAL OBJECTIVES BACK FROM 2018.I'M GONNA BASICALLY SKIP THROUGH THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY, BUT I WANTED THIS IN YOUR PACKET.
AND I ALSO, UH, COVERED THESE SLIDES IN THE LAST PRESENTATION, BUT KEPT THEM HERE FOR REFERENCE, TALKING ABOUT THE, THE EARLIER URBAN THREE, UM, PROJECTIONS THAT WE ARE, UM, STILL MEETING AND ACTUALLY EXCEEDING.
SO NORTHLINE HAS THE RIGHT VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS READY TO MAKE A MEANINGFUL DEVELOPMENT PROGRESS DURING THIS NEXT REAL ESTATE CYCLE IN ORDER TO BUILD OUT NORTHLINE'S COMMERCIAL COMPONENT.
AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
WITH THAT, WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS ANY, ANYBODY HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING THERE IS NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL ENTER INTO DISCUSSION.
I WILL GO, WHICH, WHERE I GO LEFT.
UM, SO FIRST OFF, MR. BERT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SENDING OUT AND MAKING SURE WE GOT THE PRESENTATION AHEAD OF TIME.
AND THE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH THAT IS, IS VERY GRATEFUL.
AND ALSO, MS. GRIFFITH, CAN YOU PLEASE REMIND US ABOUT THE RIBBON CUTTING? THAT'S THE FIRST TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE THAT A DEVELOPER HAS INVITED THE COMMISSION OUT TO A RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE WE TAKE HIM UP ON THAT AS BEST WE CAN.
SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT, SIR.
UM, MY QUESTION IS TO STAFF GENERAL QUESTION, BY THE WAY, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THIS.
UH, LIKE UNLIKE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, MR. TYBERG, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THIS, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
UM, WHY DID YOU CHANGE YOUR RECOMMENDATION? WHAT CHANGED? I CAN ANSWER THAT.
UM, SO WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT AND IT, IT CAME DOWN TO WE WERE READING THE REQUIREMENTS ONE WAY AND THEY MEANT IT ANOTHER WAY.
SO WE CAME UP WITH LANGUAGE WE BOTH UNDERSTOOD, UM, AND WERE ABLE TO CLARIFY BEFORE THE MEETING.
UM, SO I, WHEN I LOOK AT THE, THE RECOMMENDED, UH, CHANGES TO THE BLOCK F FRONTAGE, I, I LOVE THE FLOW OF THE FRONTAGE FROM SAN GABRIEL DOWN INTO THE KIND OF THE CORE OF THE, THE MULTIFAMILY, UH, UNITS WITHIN THERE.
I'M WONDERING IF WE'RE BEING ACTUALLY TOO RESTRICTIVE.
UM, SO I'M KIND OF GOING THE OTHER WAY NOW THAN WHAT I'VE, WHAT I'VE KIND OF DONE IN THE PAST.
UM, 'CAUSE IT, 'CAUSE THE, THE BUILDING FRONTAGES ON THE GROUND FLOOR MAY INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING AND IT'S VERY COMPLICATED IN MY OPINION.
WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY IT HAS A MINIMUM OF 25% COMMERCIAL AND THAT LETS THE MARKET DECIDE WHATEVER THEY WANT IN THAT SPACE VERSUS US DICTATING SPECIFIC PERCENTAGES AROUND, UM, BETWEEN THE TWO.
SO THAT'S KIND OF MY ONLY COMMENT.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M THINKING.
I THINK THAT, UH, WE'RE BEING VERY PRESCRIPTIVE IN THAT SPACE AT THIS POINT.
AND IF WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT MARKET, YOU KNOW, UH, THE MARKET DRIVING WHERE WE WANT IT TO GO, WE'RE NOT ALLOWING IT TO DO THAT BY BEING THIS PRESCRIPTIVE.
AND SO I'M SAYING THAT WE'D BE A LITTLE BIT MORE RELAXED, UH, FOR THAT BLOCK F CONSIDERING WE WE'RE DEFINITELY PRESCRIPTIVE ON THE OTHER BLOCK, THE BLOCK FRONTAGES.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE FOR, UM, A BETTER, UH, BETTER FLEXIBILITY IN THAT SPACE SO THAT WE CAN MEET THE MARKET DEMAND AT THE TIME WHEN IT GETS DEVELOPED.
'CAUSE WE WON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS TODAY BECAUSE IT'S GONNA CHANGE OVER TIME.
BY THE TIME IT GETS DEVELOPED, IT'LL, IT'LL CHANGE AGAIN.
SO THAT GIVES 'EM THAT FLEXIBILITY.
SO, MAY I, UM, SO INITIALLY THE, THE BLOCK F AND Y'ALL CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT COMMERCIAL USES.
I THINK THEY ADDED THIS SO THEY GET MORE FLEXIBILITY, SO IT COULD, THEY'RE NOT, I GUESS THEY'RE NOT SURE IF IT'S GOING TO DO A HUNDRED PERCENT COMMERCIAL PER THE PREVIOUS EXHIBIT F OR THEY WOULD HAVE THESE, UH, OPTIONS.
UM, I THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT.
SO IT GIVES THEM MORE FLEXIBILITY, I GUESS, WHEN IT DEVELOPS.
SO, AND THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, IF WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT, JUST SAY MINIMUM 25% COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE THERE.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO 100% COMMERCIAL, SO IT'S MINIMUM 25% COMMERCIAL OR ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS I'M SAYING REMOVE ALL THE OTHER KIND OF RESTRICTIONS, MINIMUMS, MAXIMUMS, ET CETERA.
25% COMMERCIAL IS WHAT WE WANT IN THAT SPACE THAT ALLOWS THE MARKET TO DICTATE WHERE THE, WHERE THEY WANT TO GO IN THAT, ON THAT FRONTAGE JUST FOR THAT ONE BLOCK.
SO THAT'S, I'M NOT SAYING CHANGE IT FOR EVERYTHING, BUT JUST THAT ONE BLOCK AND THAT SPECIFIC AMENDMENT.
NUMBER TWO HERE FOR BLOCK F FRONTAGE.
YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S AN ACTIVITY CENTER.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE FUTURE USE MAP REALLY DICTATE THIS AS LEANDER CENTRAL, WHICH IS NOT JUST AN ACTIVITY CENTER, IT'S FAR BEYOND THAT.
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T SIX URBAN CORE, UM, THAT REALLY DICTATES WANTING TO BE LIKE, SO YOU GOTTA LOOK AT LEANER.THIS IS THE HEART OF WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LEAN ANDER'S FUTURE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE BIG, THE THE BIGGEST THING THAT RUBS ME ON THIS ONE IS THE, THE OPTION SECTION TO RIP OUT A HUGE SECTION, UM, AND CHANGE THE USE FROM T SIX TO THE GGGG GENERAL COMMERCIAL TOO.
UM, THAT DOES NOT CREATE AN URBAN OR WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT.
UM, I I, I READ HERE THE INTENTIONS OF LEANER CENTRAL, A FUTURE URBAN CORE TO BE WALKABLE TO ME.
I DON'T, I DON'T SEE LARGE PARKING LOTS TELLING ME I'M WALKING THERE AND, YOU KNOW, IF I BOUGHT A BROWNSTONE OR A ROW HOME, I'M NOT WALKING ACROSS PARKING LOTS.
SO FOR ANYBODY WHO'S LIVED IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT IN THEIR LIFETIME, IT'S NOT NORMALLY THE MOST INVITING THING.
SO FOR ME, THE, THE, THE I I, I'M ALL A FAN OF THE NORTH LINE DEVELOPMENT, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GREAT, UM, PROJECT, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE SPENT THE LAST 20 PLUS YEARS GETTING TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
AND I KNOW A LOT OF WORK'S GONE IN IT.
YOU LOOK AT WHEN THE RAIL LINE CAME OUT, YOU LOOK AT SMART CODE, YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT PROJECT, HOW IT WAS ALL ADAPTED.
YOU LOOK AT HOW NORTHLINE STARTED, UM, I DON'T SEE ANY OF THOSE IN ENVISIONING WITH LARGE PARKING LOTS.
AND SO FOR, I GUESS, I GUESS THAT'S THE ONE PART THAT I'M NOT REALLY CRAZY ABOUT AT THIS POINT.
UM, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS TO DO THE NORTHLINE RETAIL, THAT'S THE, THE HATCHED AREA ALONG 180 3 A MM-HMM.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE, UM, LIKE THE ORIGINAL NORTH LINE, BUT IT'S STILL GONNA HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY ELEMENT.
YOU DON'T GET THAT URBAN FEEL WITH SINGLE STORY AND SURROUNDED BY PARKING LOTS.
IT TURNED IT BACK FOR THE CITY SQUARE.
LIKE, IF I'M STANDING IN OUR CITY SQUARE, I WANNA BE ABLE TO WALK SOMEWHERE IF I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, SO FOR ME, THAT'S THE BIGGEST, UH, THING.
I LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE WE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT NORTHLINE THE PROJECT, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I JUST DON'T, THE OPTION HERE IS THE, WHAT'S DRIVING ME AND THE, THE OPTION, DO WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THE OPTION AREA BECAUSE IT KIND OF STOPS SHORT WHERE THERE'S A, A STRIP, UM, ALONG THE MAIN STREET.
SO YOU, YOU WON'T HAVE A SURFACE PARKING LOT ADJACENT TO MAIN STREET.
WELL, AND PART OF THE INTENT IS TO IS TO HAVE A HOTEL USER IN THAT AREA.
WHEN WE, I WAS AT THE COMMISSION MEETING A FEW WEEKS AGO WHEN WE, WE TALKED ABOUT NORTHLINE AND, YOU KNOW, YEAH, IT, I I UNDERSTAND THERE'S ECONOMICS YOU TO THE FIRST 16 ACRES, BUT NOW THIS OPTION IS FAR GREATER THAN THE ORIGINAL 16 ACRES.
SO YOU COULD EVENTUALLY ONE DAY HAVE HALF OF DOWNTOWN BE, OR WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LEAN OR CENTRAL, NOT BE A CENTRAL SPACE.
COMMISSIONER MAY I, I REALLY WANNA THANK STAFF AND MR. TYBERG FOR INCLUDING US IN THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS REGARDING THE CHANGES THAT WERE COMING UP.
IT WAS REALLY INFORMATIVE, UH, KEEPING US UP TO DATE IN THE INFORMATION BY EMAIL, EVEN THOUGH OUR EMAIL WENT DOWN THIS WEEK,
UH, I ALSO WENT BACK AND DID A LITTLE RESEARCH.
UH, THIS IS, I THINK THE NUMBER ONE COMPARISON HAS BEEN, UM, THE DOMAIN.
UH, IT'S ALSO SIMILAR TO THE GALLERIA AND B CAVE, UM, FOR THOSE WHO SAY THAT THINGS SHOULDN'T CHANGE FROM THE ORIGINAL PLANS.
GO AND LOOK HOW MANY PLANNING AND ZONING CASES IN CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARINGS WENT INTO NORTHLINE AND THE GALLERIA, I, I GAVE UP AFTER ABOUT SIX HOURS OF RESEARCH ON NORTHLINE.
AND THAT WASN'T READING THROUGH THE WHOLE PACKET.
THAT'S JUST THE HIGHLIGHTS OF IT.
THAT'S HOW MANY CHANGES WERE JUST ON, ON THAT ONE PROJECT.
AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T NORTHLINE, THIS IS NOT THE GALLERIA.
DO I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
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A GOOD PROJECT.IT'S NOT THE ORIGINAL VISION, BUT AGAIN, THE TWO OTHER PROJECTS, UH, WHEN THEY WERE FINISHED, THEY WERE NOT THE ORIGINAL VISION EITHER.
UM, IF WE DON'T ALLOW THE ADAPTATION TO MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT WORKS SENSIBLY, UM, YOU KNOW, I I, BACK IN 2016 WHEN I MOVED HERE, I WAS LAUGHED AT BECAUSE THIS WAS QUOTE COW TOWN.
UH, WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, GROWN TWICE THE SIZE.
UH, WE'VE COME THROUGH CHALLENGES OF A MAJOR WINTER STORM THAT BROKE ALL THE RECORDS.
AND I THOUGHT I WOULDN'T SEE SNOW LIKE THAT HERE.
UM, WE MADE IT THROUGH COVID AND, UM, THINGS ARE CHANGING AND WE HAVE TO DEVELOP A PRODUCT HERE THAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR THE DEVELOPER.
IT'S GOING TO WORK FOR THE CITY, AND IT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY BRING BUSINESSES IN THAT IS GOING TO MAKE OUR CENTRAL DOWNTOWN.
AND WHILE IT, IT'S NOT THE ORIGINAL PLAN, I THINK IT'S STILL A GOOD PLAN.
AND I THINK THE CHANGES HERE ARE WARRANTED.
I THINK MARKETS CHANGE, UM, SPECIF, SPECIFICALLY REAL ESTATE MARKETS.
SO IT'S NO SURPRISE TO ME THAT WE'VE SHIFTED FROM MORE, FROM MORE MULTIFAMILY TO, UM, MORE COMMERCIAL.
UM, AND I THINK TO BE FRANK, WE, WE NEED MORE COMMERCIAL.
WE NEED MORE RESTAURANTS, WE NEED MORE RETAIL.
UM, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IS THE DIRECTION THAT NORTHLINE IS HEADED IN.
UM, AND I THINK CHANGE IS OKAY.
AND I THINK, UM, TO BE STAGNANT AND STUCK ON A DESIGN PLAN THAT DOESN'T, UM, CONTEMPLATE POST COVID CHANGES, UM, LEANDER HAS GROWN A TON.
UM, AND I KNOW A COMMON COMPLAINT IS THAT WE HAVE TO DRIVE TO CEDAR PARK, UM, TO GET ALL OF THE AMENITIES THAT IDEALLY WE WOULD HAVE IN A BOOMING CITY LIKE LEANDER.
UM, SO I THINK THE CURRENT PLAN IS, IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I SUPPORT THE COMPROMISES THAT STAFF HAS MADE WITH NORTHLINE.
WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THE ORIGINAL PACKET, I MAKE NOTES AND HAD MADE A NOTE.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMPROMISE HERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I MADE SOME NOTES LIKE THAT AND THEN WHEN WE GOT THE REVISION THIS EVENING, SOME OF THAT, WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
SO I'M HAPPY WITH THE WAY IT'S COME OUT.
IT, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE SAID MY PIECE BEFORE WHEN THIS CAME BEFORE US, UH, LAST TIME THAT I WAS HERE TO VOTE FOR THE ORIGINAL NORTHLINE AND LOVED IT.
TIMES CHANGE AND, UH, THE MARKET'S CHANGED AND I, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT PROJECT.
SO I'M A YES ON THIS FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
COMMISSIONER HAN, WHEN YOU, UH, STARTED TALKING ABOUT SIMPLIFYING THE JUST 25%, UH, COMMERCIAL, YOU'RE SIMPLIFYING, YOU'RE TALKING MY LANGUAGE NOW.
I MEAN, IF WE, IF WE WERE TO DO THAT AND NOT SAY BUT, BUT NO RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, I, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF PARAMETERS ON THERE, BUT MY MAIN POINT IS THAT I THINK THE LANGUAGE THAT THAT STAFF AND MR. TYBERG WORKED OUT IS MUCH, MUCH CLEARER THAN WHAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT.
SO THANK YOU FOR THIS UPDATED EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.
UM, I'VE MENTIONED IN THE VERY FIRST TIME WE LOOKED AT THIS, PULLING OUT OF THAT INITIAL 16.08 ACRES THAT, YOU KNOW, NO PLAN SURVIVES CONTACT, FIRST CONTACT WITH THE ENEMY MILITARY.
I NEVER SERVED IN THE MILITARY, BUT IT'S A PHRASE I KNOW.
AND, UM, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS OR SO, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONTACT WITH THE ENEMY AND THE ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT, UH, FROM COVID TO JUST THE WAY PEOPLE WORK.
UH, A FEW YEARS AGO, UH, PRE COVID WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR GREATEST NEEDS WAS CLASS A OFFICE BUILDINGS.
UM, WE DON'T TALK A LOT ABOUT THAT ANYMORE, RIGHTLY SO.
SO I THINK THIS IS, UH, OVERALL A GREAT PLAN.
UM, ALL OF MY QUESTIONS WERE GONNA BE BASED ON NOT GETTING THIS UPDATED EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, BECAUSE STAFF HAD SAID THAT IT, IT COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, BUT THEN THERE WERE THREE ISSUES THEY WANTED TO PULL OUT.
MY QUESTIONS WERE GONNA CENTER AROUND, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THOSE DON'T COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? THOSE ARE ALL OBVIATED.
UM, MR. TYBERG, IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO SEE YOU, BUT I HOPE YOU GET TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME, UH, BUILDING IN NORTHLINE AS YOU DO IN THIS ROOM, UH, GOING FORWARD.
SO,
AND THEN, AND AND MY COMMENTS.
I MEAN, I, I'LL ECHO A LOT OF THE SENTIMENT HERE.
I WAS ACTUALLY AGAINST THIS ON 10 10 BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED INFORMATION AND VISIBILITY WE HAD TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US NOW.
SO I WANT TO JUST REALLY THANK THE CITY,
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THANK COUNCIL, THE MAYOR, AND FOR ALL THE INFORMATION AND THE, THE, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND, AND, UM, DIRECTOR GRIFFIN, FOR ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THIS PACKET.THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEEDED, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, JUST A COUPLE QUICK THINGS AND THEN I, I, SINCE THE MAYOR IS HERE, I DON'T KNOW, I, I FIGURE IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE YOU COME UP AND SPEAK AS WELL BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW A LOT ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND SINCE YOU AND THE CITY AND THE COUNCIL, REST OF THE COUNCIL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SO LONG TO GET TO THIS POINT, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU AS WELL.
SO, UM, THE, THE PARKING PIECE OF IT, CHANGING IT FROM 2030 AND THE CITY AGREES WITH IT NOW, UM, TO CHANGE MY LANGUAGE, I, I DID NOTICE IN HERE WHEN I WENT BACK THROUGH IT, IT SAID, PROVIDED IN THE PRIVATE REALM ONLY.
IS THAT TRUE MR. TYBERG? ARE WE LOOKING AT COMPACT PARKING SPACES THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT SO THAT THAT CHANGE MEANS THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT PUTTING IT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY? THEY'RE NOT PUTTING IT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO IT WON'T BE IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY.
IT JUST BE ON THEIR PROPERTIES.
'CAUSE I HATE COMPACT PARKING.
I THINK IT'S A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY AND EFFORT.
I THINK CITIES DO IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF SPACES AVAILABLE, BUT I JUST, I JUST, I DON'T LIKE COMPACT PARKING BECAUSE SOMEONE'S TRUCK'S GONNA PARK THERE AND THEY'RE GONNA DOUBLE PARK AND THEN YOU'RE BACK TO SQUARE ONE.
RIGHT? SO THAT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS ONE QUESTION, SO I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING THAT.
UM, THERE WAS AN AREA WHEN IT CAME TO I THINK A CIVIC SPACE, WE REMOVED THE LANGUAGE OF TREES.
UH, IF I CAN FIND IT, I GOT IT.
THERE'S LIKE ABOUT 345 PAGES IN THIS PACKET, SO BEAR WITH ME.
UM, WHEN I GET TO IT, AND IT WAS SECTION, I THINK IT WAS SECTION, UM, THAT WAS, YEAH, IT WAS SECTION, UH, 10 AND, UH, SUBSECTION B, WE JUST, IT, IT WAS THE, THE, THE, THE, THE VERBIAGE OF THE CIVIC SPACE, UH, WITH LAWN SEASONAL AND PERENNIAL PLANTINGS.
BUT IT, IT REMOVED THE IDEA OF TREES.
IS THERE SOMETHING BIGGER PLANNED FOR THAT CIVIC SPACE? SO WHERE WE DON'T WANT TREES INCLUDED IN THAT? I, I'M SORRY, WHICH CIVIC SPACE WAS THAT? UH, CIVIC SPACE P TWO.
UH, IT WAS, IT WAS CIVIC SPACE.
P DASH TWO, UM, ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AS SQUARES, BUT THIS, THAT WAS MARKED OUT, UM, IT'LL BE A SQUARE.
AND AT OWNER'S OPTION DESIGN MAY BE, UH, MAY INCLUDE A POTENTIAL DOG PARK AND OR PLAYGROUND, UH, COMPONENT.
AND THE MINIMUM PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS CIVIC SPACE ARE AREAS WITH LAWN STRIKE TREES, SEASONAL AND PERENNIAL PLANTING.
SO I JUST NOTICED THAT TREES WAS REMOVED.
AND SO TO ME, I'M THINKING WE WOULD WANT TO KEEP THE TREES IN A CIVIC SPACE, BUT MAYBE EDUCATE ME HERE WHAT THAT PLAN IS.
AND IF I'M CATCHING YOU OFF GUARD, I'M SORRY, BUT YEAH.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA HOLD US UP, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THAT.
I WANNA SEE WHERE P TWO IS SO I CAN REALLY CLEARLY ANSWER CHAIR WHAT PAGE ON THE AGENDA? UH, GOOD QUESTION.
I NEED TO SEE WHERE P TWO IS SO I CAN, I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHERE P TWO WAS, WHERE I CAN OKAY.
I, I, THAT WAS NOT, THAT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL.
I'M TRYING TO SEE IF P TWO IS, UM, I JUST CAN'T, CAN'T READ IT.
IS THAT TOWN SQUARE? DO WE KNOW? BECAUSE THERE, THERE ARE GONNA BE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TREES IN TOWN SQUARE.
YEAH, I MEAN, I WAS, I ASSUME THEY ARE, BUT I DON'T WANNA ASSUME EVERYTHING, SO I JUST, THAT THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN AN OVERSIGHT WHILE WHY THAT GOT RED LINED.
UM, BUT IF P TWO, I JUST CAN'T READ IT ON, BECAUSE SECTION 10 STARTS OUT AS A PARKLAND DEDICATION AND RECREATION IMPROVEMENT WORK PLAN.
AND THEN SUBSECTION A IS CIVIC SPACE, P ONE, AND THEN SUBSECTION B STARTS, UH, SPECIFICALLY SPEAKS OF CIVIC SPACE, P TWO, UM, AND LIKE I SAID, AND THEN THE, THE AREAS THAT WERE STRIKED WERE PAVED PATHWAYS, BENCHES, OR SEATING AREAS.
FURTHERMORE, CIVIC SPACES SHALL INCLUDE A PLAY AREA OR ACTIVE USE AREA THAT CAN BE USED AND ENJOYED BY CHILDREN.
SO MAINLY IT WAS THE MINIMUM PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CIVIC SPACE ARE AREAS WITH LAWN AND SEASONAL PERENNIAL PLANTINGS, AND THEN IT LEFT IT AT THAT.
SO YEAH, I MEAN, THERE'S GONNA BE TREE, SOME LEVEL OF TREES.
ACTUALLY P ONE IS, I THINK P ONE IS TOWN SQUARE.
UM, P TWO, I JUST NEED TO SEE WHERE P TWO IS AND OKAY.
I, I SAY I JUST, I SAW THAT STRIKED OUT IN THERE AND JUST, I, I FIGURED YOU HAD A BIGGER PLAN FOR THAT AREA.
SO ESPECIALLY AS YOU KEPT THE WORD LAWNS IN THERE, WHICH TELLS ME IT MIGHT GONNA BE A GREEN SPACE, MAYBE OPEN CONCERT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YEAH, P TWO MAY, MAY BE AROUND THE, THE PONDS.
UM, I, I JUST, I JUST, I CAN'T, I CAN'T ACTUALLY SEE THE, THE LANGUAGE HERE.
I NEED TO, I NEED TO BLOW IT UP.
IT'S GONNA BE ON THE, I FOUND IT.
SO P TWO IS AT THE, WHERE WILLIAM PARKER STREET ENDS ON
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THE WEST AND SCHOOLY STREET INTERSECTS.IS IT THE SMALL LITTLE 0.3, 4.16 ACRES.
IT'S THE, IT'S THE ONE NEXT TO BLOCK F.
THAT, THAT'S A VERY, VERY, VERY SMALL SPACE.
WHEN, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, THE INTENT WAS THAT MAY BE SUCH A SMALL SPACE THAT TREES MAY, MAY NOT BE, MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE.
SO THE SHRUBBERY IS THE WAY, THE WAY TO GO, BASICALLY.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
I THINK THAT WAS REALLY THE EXTENT OF, OF MY, UH, QUESTIONS.
BUT OVERALL, ONCE AGAIN, WITH THE ADDED DETAIL, UM, AND SO THE EDUCATION AND THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AT OUR, AT OUR FINGERTIPS NOW, I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.
AND SO, I DON'T KNOW, MAYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
UM, TO OUR NEW MEMBERS, I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT I DO NOT SIT IN AND OVERSEE ALL THE MEETINGS I, I WILL WATCH FROM HOME, BUT, UH, I USUALLY DON'T PUT IN MY 2 CENTS.
I AM STICKING AROUND TONIGHT SPECIFICALLY FOR NORTHLINE IN CASE ANYTHING COMES UP BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A PRIORITY ISSUE FOR COUNCIL AND, UH, TO THE COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE MORE THAN JUST TODAY.
UM, THEY WERE IN A WORKSHOP WITH US SEVERAL WEEKS AGO TO TALK ABOUT COUNCIL'S VISION AND WHERE WE'RE GOING AND, AND WHY THIS PROJECT LOOKS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE HAD FIRST IMAGINED IT ALL TO BE.
SO I WANNA START WITH THAT BY ASKING YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT 1997 AND WHAT YOU WERE DOING.
YOU WERE PROBABLY NOT HERE IN LEANDER.
I KNOW THAT I WAS IN NINTH GRADE, SO ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL INTO COLLEGE AND GROWN UP MAYOR.
IT HAS TAKEN THAT LONG FOR US TO GET ANYTHING GOING ON OVER THERE.
AND COUNCIL REALIZES THE MARKET REALITIES.
AND IF WE SIT ON NORTHLINE TO STICK TO THE IDEALS OF WHAT COULD BE, IT COULD BE ANOTHER 27 YEARS, WE MIGHT NOT EVEN BE HERE.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT PLACES LIKE THE DOMAIN, THEY'RE INFILL.
THEY ARE AREAS WHERE EVERYTHING HAS BUILT UP AROUND IT.
AND YOU CAN EASILY PRODUCE DENSITY.
YOU CAN CREATE SPACES WHERE, UM, WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN A TOWER AND WALK AROUND AND DO THEIR SHOPPING, WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO DRIVE TO IT AND SPEND THE DAY DOING THEIR SHOPPING.
THAT IS VERY HARD TO DO OUT OF A GREENFIELD.
AND THAT IS THE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE IN LEANDER.
AND THERE ARE OTHER CITIES AROUND US THAT HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO THIS EXACT SAME THING.
THESE PROJECTS ARE NOT GETTING OFF THE GROUND.
IF YOU LOOK AT GEORGETOWN, IT'S NOT HAPPENING.
INDIGO RIDGE AND SR PARK, IT'S NOT HAPPENING BECAUSE THOSE CITIES ARE NOT PIVOTING TO SAY WE RECOGNIZE THE REALITIES.
AND SO EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF P TWO, THAT WAS GOOD.
THAT WAS LIKE STUMP THE DEVELOPER AND THE MAYOR.
LIKE, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT EITHER.
UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT AND THE, UM, THE COMPACT PARKING, I BELIEVE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT HAS BEEN BLESSED BY COUNCIL, UM, THROUGH WORKSHOPS AND VARIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
UM, AS FAR AS BLOCK F, EXCELLENT OBSERVATION, COMMISSIONER MAYHAN.
UM, AND I THINK, I THINK YOU THOUGHT OF IT IN A MUCH SIMPLER TERM THAN ANY OF US DID, BECAUSE YOU GOT IT FRESH AND THE REST OF US WERE WORKING BACKWARD FROM WHAT WE WANTED.
SO THE ORIGINAL VISION WAS THAT ALL OF THAT WAS GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL AND COUNCIL WAS HIGHLY IMPACTED WHEN WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT NOT BEING COMMERCIAL.
AND THE REALITY IS THAT SQUARE IS GOING TO BE VERY HARD TO FILL.
IT'S GONNA BE A LOT HARDER TO FILL WITH STORES THAN THE FRONTAGE ON 180 3 A MM-HMM.
AND SO WE NEED TO PUT SOMETHING THERE SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST EMPTY SPACE, BECAUSE IF WE PUT EMPTY SPACE ON THAT SQUARE, IT WILL DIE.
SO WHAT CAN WE DO? WE CAN MAKE IT A CONVERTIBLE SPACE.
IT CAN BE AN AMENITY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE APARTMENTS.
IT CAN BE JUST A LOUNGE SPACE AS LONG AS THERE IS SOMETHING THAT ACTIVATES IT.
UM, AND SO WE, UH, WE HAD KIND OF, I BELIEVE, WORKED BACKWARD THE OTHER WAY OF, HOW DO WE WORD THIS SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE IT CONVERTIBLE, BUT I BELIEVE YOU'RE RIGHT, WE CAN PROBABLY SIMPLIFY IT FURTHER.
AND THAT WORDING WAS ACTUALLY WHAT THE HANGUP WAS THIS WEEK, UM, ON THE AGENDA.
AND I THINK, I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY CONTINUE TO REFINE IT IF YOU ALL WANT THAT.
UM, BUT THAT IS HOW WE GOT HERE.
AND, UM, I, I THINK I SAID ALL THIS IS BLESSED BY COUNSEL.
UM, BUT ALSO I AM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FROM ACTIONS THAT COUNSEL HAS TAKEN BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE NOT ALWAYS PRIVY TO THAT.
ALSO, I DID WANT TO ACTUALLY, UM, JUST KIND OF, UH, ADDRESS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER MORALES HAD IN, IN THE WALKABILITY.
AND I, AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT
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THE FACT THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY ON THIS COMMISSION HAS, HAS DISCUSSED AND TALKED ABOUT AND HAD A CONCERN WITH AS WELL.UM, I BELIEVE, AND I JUST TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT TRUE, BUT THE, EVEN THOUGH WE, WE MAY PULL THAT 2022 ACRES OUT OF, YOU KNOW, THIS POD TO HAVE SEVERAL GENERAL COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION, THE GRID PATTERN DOESN'T REALLY CHANGE TOO MUCH IN THAT.
BASED ON, UM, THAT BLACK LINE SECTION WE HAVE UP ON THE SCREENER THAT THAT GRID PATTERN OF THE STREET STILL IS GONNA REMAIN INTACT OR IS THAT GONNA POSSIBLY CHANGE? THEY WOULD COMPLY WITH CONVENTIONAL ZONING SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME BLOCK REQUIREMENTS.
SO THOSE COULD BE A PRIVATE DRIVE NETWORK INSTEAD, OR OKAY.
BUT IT COULD BE PARKING, SO THAT COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE.
UM, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, UM, THIS IS A ACTION ITEM OF COURSE, MR. CHAIR.
'CAUSE I I, I DO THINK I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, IT WAS, I THINK IT'S GREAT TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER MORALES'S CONCERN 'CAUSE I THINK A LOT OF US HAD THAT ORIGINALLY.
UM, AND WHEN WE DO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THE DOMAIN AND OTHER MODELS, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THINGS ON THE OUTSKIRTS, THE DEPARTMENTAL STORE DEPARTMENT, STORES WITH, UH, FLAT PARKING, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE FOODS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND FROM THE RENDERINGS I'VE SEEN THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS EVEN MORE THOUGHTFULLY INTEGRATED IN A LOT OF WAYS.
UM, SO JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA THROW OUT A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER, VICE CHAIR COLOM, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MAY.
I WAS GONNA SAY MAHAN THROUGH HIS VOICE THIS WAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR MOTION PASSES TO OPPOSED.
CAN YOU SAY WHO? OPPOSED? YEAH, IT OPPOSED, UH, FOR THE RECORD POSED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER MAHAN AND COMMISSIONER URAS.
AND, UM, SO IT'S TYPICAL FOR US TO TALK ABOUT WHY WE OPPOSE SOMETHING.
I'M NOT OPPOSED, BY THE WAY, YOU CAN ACTUALLY CHANGE MY VOTE TO A, TO A FOUR, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
I THINK THERE IS A GREAT WAY TO SIMPLIFY IT AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT PRIOR TO THE MAYOR SPEAKING.
BUT IF WE JUST MAKE THAT, UM, A MINIMUM OF 25% COMMERCIAL, A MAXIMUM OF 50% CONVERTIBLE TO COMMERCIAL, WHICH ADDRESSES COMMISSIONER CLAMS, UH, ISSUES THAT HE SAID TOO, WHEN I SAID THAT, I THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A, A MUCH MORE FLEXIBLE SPACE AND, AND FLEXIBLE RULES FOR THE DEVELOPER.
SO I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO DO THAT, WHICH IS WHY I DIDN'T PROPOSE IT AS AN AMENDMENT.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA MESS UP THE FLOW THAT WE WERE GOING HERE, BUT, UH, IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AND SOMETHING FOR COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT GOING FORWARD.
DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? COMMISSIONER? MORALE, MORALE, THANK YOU.
NO, I'M ALL FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE NEED.
I HATE THAT LIVING IN LEANDER, WE HAVE TO DRIVE TO CEDAR PARK ANOTHER CITY.
I DO THINK THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO APPROACH THAT.
UM, I DO THINK THAT THERE'S WAYS TO PHASE A DESIGN THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED TO CREATE, UH, AN ENVIRONMENT THAT'S EXCITING, ENGAGING, UM, THAT BRINGS PEOPLE FROM THE STREETS AND HOW IT INTERACTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, WE, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, READING ALL THE DOCUMENTS FOR THE SEA LEANDER, YOU KNOW, I DO UNDERSTAND THINGS CHANGE.
I, I DESIGN THINGS FOR, LIKE, THINGS ALWAYS CHANGE, BUT IT'S HOW YOU EXECUTE IN THE END AND HOW IT, THAT VISION ON HOW WE INTERACT IN OUR DAY-TO-DAY LIVES CAN REALLY BE IMPACTED BY THE WAY THAT THIS, THIS EVOLVES OVER THE YEARS.
SO IS IT A DESTINATION THAT YOU'RE EXCITED TO GO TO OR JUST YOU GO 'CAUSE YOU NEED IT RIGHT NOW? WE DO HAVE A NEED, UM, FOR RE COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL IN THIS CITY.
THAT'S, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S DOUBTING THAT.
SO I, I SUPPORT, UH, RETAIL, I SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THE PART THAT'S GONE ON THE SQUARE.
I SUPPORT THAT VERY, VERY MUCH SO.
AND I, AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP.
AND I, AND I THINK IT WAS IF, GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE, UH, ON, ON THE COMMISSION.
SO DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, WELCOME, YOU KNOW, TO, TO THIS TEAM HERE.
AND WE WORK REALLY WELL TOGETHER.
AND I'LL SAY WITHIN THE LAST MEETING WHEN, WHEN MR. TYBERG AND YOU ALSO HAD ENDEAVOR HERE AS WELL, AND THEY'RE, AND, AND THEY PRESENTED A REALLY GREAT CASE OF ALL THE PROPERTIES AND THE DEVELOPMENTS THEY'VE DONE, I WAS VERY MUCH IMPRESSED.
I ALMOST SPLIT MY VOTE REALLY, YOU KNOW, AT THAT MOMENT.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE INFORMATION THAT, THAT WE, I FELT LIKE WE WEREN'T PROVIDED, I STILL NEEDED TO STICK TO MY GUNS ON THAT ONE, BUT THEY DID.
I'VE SEEN THE DEVELOPMENTS, THEY'VE SEEN WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE DOMAIN.
I, I HEARD WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE HILL COUNTRY GALLERIA, WHICH OBVIOUSLY NEEDS HELP AS WELL.
SO THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK TO BUILD THESE, THESE SPACES THAT PEOPLE WANT TO VISIT.
AND I, EVERY TIME I'VE BEEN IN A WORKSHOP OR, OR BEEN INVOLVED WITH DIFFERENT ASPECTS, EVEN INCLUDING THE OLD TOWN LEANDER MASTER PLAN, UH, WE WANT TO MAKE LEANDER A DESTINATION.
WE'VE GOT THE TRAIN STATION FOR THAT.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA JUST HAVE THAT THERE AND KEEP THAT GOING WITHOUT MAKING NORTHLINE DESTINATION.
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I HAVE CONFIDENCE THE CITY'S GONNA DO A GREAT JOB WITH THAT.[17. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-24-0148 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to SFS-2-B (Single-Family Suburban) on one (1) parcel of land approximately 15.416 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R031560; and generally located north of the intersection of CR 177 and Valley View Drive, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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UH, AND THAT IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z DASH 24 DASH 0 1 48 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM S FFR ONE B, SINGLE FAMILY RURAL TO SFS TWO B, SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 15.416 ACRES IN SIZE.
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT AS PARCEL R 0 3 1 5 6 OH.
AND GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF CR 1 77 AND VALLEY VIEW DRIVE.
LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.
MICHAEL CHENOWSKI PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UH, THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
THIS PROPERTY IS PROPOSED TO BE AN EXTENSION OF THE LONE STAR LANDING SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS LOCATED NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 1 77 AND VALLEY VIEW DRIVE, UH, LOCATED DIRECTLY EAST OF THE AUSTIN, UH, PRECISION STORAGE AND WAREHOUSE BUSINESS.
UH, THE PROPOSED DIS ZONING DISTRICT OF SFS TWO B SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS AND OTHER COMPATIBLE COMPLIMENTARY USES.
THIS PROPOSAL DOES COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, AS DICTATED IN THE, UH, FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL.
UM, SOME SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS TO, UH, THINK ABOUT, UH, AS THIS COMMISSION IS AWARE.
RESOLUTION NUMBER 22 DASH 0 3 1 0 WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN OCTOBER OF 2022, UH, TO LIMIT CONSIDERATION OF ZONING REQUESTS THAT SEEK TO ADD RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
UH, HOWEVER, THIS RESOLUTION DOES PRIORITIZE LARGE LOT LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIALS SU SUCH AS S-F-R-S-F-E, AND SFS ZONING.
UH, AND AS I MENTIONED, THIS REQUEST IS MEANT TO BE, UH, AN EXTENSION OF THE LONE STAR LANDING PHASE ONE.
YOU CAN SEE PHASE ONE IS THIS PORTION, UH, THIS IS THE PARCEL THAT'S REQUESTING THE ZONING CHANGE TODAY.
UH, AND JUST TO GET, I GUESS YOUR BEARINGS A LITTLE BIT BETTER, THIS IS RONALD REAGAN AND CRYSTAL FALLS, UH, INTERSECTIONS ABOUT RIGHT HERE.
AND SO JUST SOUTH OF THIS COUNTY ROAD 1 77 AND THEN THIS PORTION, UH, OF THE PROPERTY.
MM-HMM,
UH, LEMME SEE, UH, EXTENSION OF CRYSTAL FALLS WILL GO THROUGH AND, UH, TOUCH THE SOUTH PORTION OF, UH, THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UH, THIS, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES, UH, THE SUBJECT AREA AS NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S, UH, REQUEST COMPLIES WITH BOTH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CURRENT ZONING DESIGNATIONS.
UH, AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THE SFS TWO B UH, INCLUDES MINIMUM 70 FOOT LOTS, AND IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE WATER RESOLUTION.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, UM, AND I THINK THE APPLICANT IS HERE OKAY.
UM, BUT I WILL BE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
MR. FIELD CONTROL L ALL RIGHT.
WHICH ONE ADVANCES THIS ONE AND THIS ONE ADVANCES CORRECT.
I REPRESENT PRIME DEVELOPERS, THE, UH, APPLICANT ON THIS PROJECT.
UNLIKE, UH, MR. TYBERG, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING HERE TONIGHT.
I'VE GOT ABOUT TWO AND A HALF HOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT FOR THIS ZONING CASE.
THIS IS THE SECOND HALF OF THIS REQUEST.
THE TOTAL PROJECT'S ROUGHLY 37 ACRES.
PHASE ONE CAME TO YOU BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2022, AND, UH, WAS APPROVED, UH, BY COUNCIL IN 2022, WHICH WAS THE SOUTH END OF THIS.
UH, THE ZONING WAS PHASED INTO TWO PAR PORTIONS.
THIS, UH, ZONING FOR PHASE ONE WAS 21.6 ACRES.
THIS ZONING REQUEST AND I IS THE ADDITIONAL 15.46 ACRES WITH THE ADDITION OF 57 LOTS.
UM, THE PHASE THREE WILL COME BACK TO YOU IN THE FUTURE, WHICH MAY, UH, INCLUDE, THAT'S GONNA BE THE ORANGE PORTION IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH MAY INCLUDE COMMERCIAL AND THE CRYSTAL FALLS EXTENSION THAT WILL BE THROUGH THERE THAT SETS THE ALIGNMENT FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, THE, CURRENTLY IT'S ZONED AS FSFR ONE B.
THE REQUEST IS TO MATCH THE LOWER PER PORTION OF S FS TWO B.
IT'S, UH, DESIGNATED NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL IN THE
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FUTURE LAND USE MAP.AS STAFF HAD SAID, UH, THE PROPERTY SOUTH OF CRYSTAL FALLS WILL COME BACK AGAIN FOR REZONING AND COMMERCIAL AT SOME FUTURE TIME WHEN THEY'RE FIRM ON THE ALIGNMENT OF THE TIMELINE OF THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE CRYSTAL FALLS ARTERIAL.
UH, THIS IS A STRAIGHT ZONING CASE.
THE DEVELOPER DID CHANGE THE DESIGN TO MEET WITH THE NEW COUNCIL INITIATIVE.
IT WAS ASKED THAT WE PHASE IT INTO TWO SECTIONS.
IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS BACK FOR THE SECOND PHASE.
SO WITH THAT, WE WILL BE HERE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND WITH THAT, UH, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DO HAVE, UH, SEVERAL CARDS HERE FOR FOLKS WISHING TO SPEAK.
SO IF I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING UP, UH, JUST READ YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND I'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I LIVE AT ONE 15, UH, OR 1 1 5.
UM, SO I THINK, UH, MY BIGGEST CONCERN, UM, WITH REZONING THIS RIGHT NOW IS, UH, REALLY THE ACCESS.
UM, SO COUNTY ROAD 1 77 IS, I MEAN, IT'S A SMALL ROAD.
THE INTERSECTION, UH, AT, AT RONALD REAGAN AND 1 77 IS REALLY BAD.
UH, IT, IT'S HARD TO GET OUT OF AND, UH, ADDING TRAFFIC, UH, OR, OR ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC EITHER FOR CONSTRUCTION, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD GO ON, UM, OR JUST THE RESIDENCES IS GONNA BE A PROBLEM AT LEAST UNTIL, UH, UNTIL CRYSTAL FALLS EXTENSION IS PUT IN PLACE.
UM, SO A, AS THESE PROPERTIES SUBDIVISIONS HAVE GONE IN ALONG 1 77, WE'VE HAD TO DEAL, WE'VE HAD TO, TO, TO DEAL WITH, UM, THE BRIDGE BEING CLOSED.
UM, WHICH BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, ELIMINATES OUR CAPABILITY FROM VALLEY VIEW TO, TO HAVE A ACCESS OR BE ABLE TO LEAVE OR ACCESS OUR PROPERTIES OUTSIDE OF THE INTERSECTION AT RONALD REAGAN, WHICH I MEAN IS A MESS.
UM, AND SO WHILE LIKE SURE, THIS DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, IS GONNA HAPPEN AT SOME POINT IN TIME, I, I JUST THINK THAT RIGHT.
GOING THROUGH THE ZONING STARTING THAT PROCESS IS JUST NOT GOOD RIGHT NOW UNTIL, UM, UNTIL WE CAN BE ASSURED THAT THERE'S GONNA BE PROPER ACCESS.
AND IT'S NOT GONNA DISRUPT OUR LIVES ON THE WAY HERE.
I MEAN, I SAT FOR FOUR MINUTES, UH, TRYING TO GET OUT ONTO, UH, ONTO RONALD REAGAN.
UM, I THINK THE, A PROPOSAL AT ONE POINT IN TIME WAS TO CLOSE THE, THE, OR PREVENT US FROM BEING ABLE TO GO ACROSS, UH, AND MAKE A LEFT TURN.
WE WERE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO TAKE A RIGHT GO UP, TURN AROUND, DO A U-TURN, BASICALLY AT CRYSTAL FALLS.
LIKE, I HAD TO GO ALL THE WAY UP TO HEROES WAY, UH, OR NOT HERE.
RIGHT? ANYWAY, I HAD TO GO UP TO THE NEXT LIGHT TO TAKE A LEFT TO COME HERE TONIGHT, RIGHT.
AND THAT'S, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, RONALD REAGAN IS GONNA BE A MESS, BUT ADDING MORE HOUSING, ADDING, UH, FURTHER DEVELOPMENT, UH, AT THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, UNTIL CRYSTAL FALLS IS THERE, OR THE EXTENSION, IT'S JUST, IT, IT'S JUST GONNA MAKE OUR LIVES MISERABLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE CONTINUALLY HAD TO GO ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND ABOUT THIS.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CORRECT.
JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND JUST HAVE US THREE MINUTES.
UH, BRIAN WADE, I LIVE ON VALLEY VIEW DRIVE ALSO.
AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU TODAY.
UH, I WILL NOT TAKE UP THE FULL THREE MINUTES 'CAUSE UH, MY SENTIMENTS ARE EXACTLY WHAT THE, THE PREVIOUS PERSON HAD SAID IS IT'S THE ACCESS ON COUNTY ROAD 1 77.
THEY HAVE, UH, THEY HAVE FRIENDS THAT LIVE ON THAT ROAD AND THEY GO VISIT THEIR FRIENDS ON THAT ROAD.
THERE'S NO SIDEWALK, THERE'S NO DIVIDING LANE.
IT ABSOLUTELY CANNOT ACCOMMODATE, UH, CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, LET ALONE ALL THE NEW RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC THAT'S GONNA COME ALONG WITH THAT.
THE WHOLE THING JUST REALLY FEELS A LITTLE RUSHED TO ME.
SINCE WE ALREADY KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE AN EXTENSION OF CRYSTAL FALLS, WHY DON'T WE JUST WAIT UNTIL THAT EXTENSION TAKES PLACE AND THAT THE, THE APPROPRIATE ACCESS IS AVAILABLE, UM, FOR CONSTRUCTION AND FOR THOSE RESIDENTS.
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ABSOLUTELY CANNOT, UH, ACCOMMODATE ALL THE, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC AND THE RESIDENCE THAT ARE GONNA BE USING IT.UH, MR. UH, JOSH FREEMAN, COME UP, SPEAK YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.
HI, MY NAME'S UH, JOSH FREEMAN.
I LIVE AT 1 0 7 VALLEY VIEW DRIVE.
UM, I WOULD ECHO THE CONCERNS ABOUT ACCESS, BUT ALSO EMPHASIZE THE SAFETY CONCERNS.
UM, WHEN THOSE, UH, CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES ATTEND, YOU KNOW, TEND TO TAKE A LEFT HAND TURN, THEY WILL ACTUALLY BLOCK THE ENTIRETY OF, OF RONALD REAGAN.
'CAUSE THEY'RE 50 FEET, 53 FOOT TRAILERS, AND THEY COME IN WITH A LUMBER AND ANOTHER ROOFING MATERIAL.
SO WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT LONGER TERM.
THE OTHER CONCERN WE HAVE THOUGH, IS, AND, AND I'M GONNA GO BACK IN HISTORY A BIT, IS THE ORIGINAL ZONING REQUEST OF THE SOUTHERN PART, ALTHOUGH APPROVED.
AND THEN WE WERE NOTIFIED OF THE APPROVAL.
THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WERE NOT NOTIFIED.
AND SO I'M HERE FOR, FOR WHO'S ON 1 0 1 AND 100 THAT ARE ADJACENT TO IT.
WE CAME BACK AND EXPRESSED OUR CONCERN TO COUNSEL.
COUNSEL SAID, WELL, IT MADE IT THROUGH ZONING, SO TOUGH LUCK.
SO AGAIN, THE NOTIFICATION PROCEDURES THERE ON THIS TIME, THE NOTIFICATION, ALTHOUGH THIS IS FURTHER AWAY, IT'S THE SAME PARCEL.
IT'S FURTHER AWAY THE TWO PROPERTIES ADJACENT.
ONE OF THEM DID RECEIVE A PACKET OF THE MAIL.
THE OTHER ONE RECEIVED AN EMPTY PACKET IN THE MAIL, SO THERE WAS NOTHING IN IT.
AND THAT'S AT THE RESIDENT AT 1 0 1 VALLEY VIEW DRIVE.
THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS, UM, ALONG THE BRUSHY CREEK WATERSHED, THERE HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN DENSITY OF HOUSING ON BOTH SIDES OF BRUSHY CREEK.
ALTHOUGH WE ARE IN VALLEY VIEW, WE'RE KIND OF LUCKY WE'RE, WE'RE IN A RAISE, WE WON'T BE HIT BY THIS.
THIS AREA WILL HAVE A LOT OF RUNOFF THAT GOES DOWN THERE.
THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE VERY MANY CONCESSIONS IN THE PROPOSED DESIGN AROUND HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT WATER.
WHEN I LOOK AT OTHER SUBDIVISIONS ALONG BRUSHY CREEK OR OTHER AREAS, I SEE MUCH MORE SUBSTANTIAL PLANNING FOR FLOOD, FLOOD AND WATER MANAGEMENT.
I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER, ESPECIALLY WHAT'S HAPPENED ON THE, UM, EASTERN SIDE OF BRUSHY CREEK.
WHAT'S GOING IN OVER THERE? IT MEANS IT'S HUNDREDS OF HOMES.
SO THE PERMEABLE SURFACE IS GOING DOWN SEVERELY.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE RUNOFF ISSUES, AND THEN THE HOUSING THAT WE ARE APPROVING, UH, NEAR FLOOD ZONES DOWN BELOW ARE GONNA HAVE ISSUES AS WELL.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY.
I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE RUNOFF ISSUES THAT THIS COULD, THIS COULD PRODUCE.
MY NAME IS MARIA BANDAS AND I LIVE IN 1 0 7 VALLEY VIEW DRIVE.
SO I THINK A LOT OF THE THINGS WERE BEING SAID IN TERMS OF THE 1 0 7, UH, THE 1 77, MORE IMPORTANTLY, THAT INTERSECTION DOESN'T EVEN COUNT.
ALL THE TRAFFIC IS GONNA COME FROM THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET.
THAT IS ALL THE CRICKET, UH, SPORT, UH, YOU KNOW, CENTER THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED.
SO IT'S NOT EVEN THE CURRENT SITUATION THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS EVEN THE FUTURE INTERSECTION THAT IS RIGHT.
UM, PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, LIKE AS WE KNOW CR 1 77, IT'S NOT A TWOFOLD LANE STRETCH.
YOU KNOW, MANY AREAS BARELY ALLOW FOR TO STAND THEIR CARDS.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO WAY CONSTRUCTION CAN BE HERE.
AND UM, AND ONE KEY FACTOR TO, TO UNDERSTAND IS THE FIRST PHASE THAT WAS APPROVED.
LIKE KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS, EVERYTHING WENT THROUGH THE, THE RIGHT UH, UH, PROCESS WAS EVEN DONE BEFORE THE BRIDGE CLOSED.
WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT ROAD HAS LESS KIND OF LIKE CAPACITY RIGHT NOW, ADDING A NEIGHBORHOOD IN AN AREA THAT SHOULD BE RURAL.
IT WAS RURAL BEFORE THEY WENT FROM RURAL TO SUBURBAN.
YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD EVEN REVISIT THE PHASE ONE ZONING THAT SHOULD BE AT MINIMUM STATE.
WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT ROAD IS NOT FOR HAVING A NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IT IS JUST LIKE THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.
THERE'S NOT AN INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THAT AMOUNT OF HOUSINGS WHEN WE KNOW WE ONLY HAVE ONE WAY EXIT TO THE RONALD REAGAN AND THE FUTURE EXPANSION OF ALL THE TRAFFIC THERE.
NOTHING IN THAT PLOT SHOULD BE DEVELOPED UNTIL CRYSTAL FALLS IS DEVELOPED AND THE ENTRIES AND THE ALL CODE FOR EXCESS SHOULD BE GOING THROUGH CRYSTAL FALLS, NOT THROUGH A 1 77 COUNTRY ROAD.
I HAVE, UH, MR. CHARLES, UH, GRIFFIN.
CHARLES GRIFFIN, 16 VALLEY VIEW CIRCLE.
UM, COUNTY ROAD 1 77 IS INADEQUATE EVEN FOR THE 30 OR 40 HOUSES THAT CURRENTLY ARE ON IT.
IT'S ABOUT TO GET MUCH WORSE BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS RONALD REAGAN.
UM, AND I REALIZED PHASE ONE OF THIS WAS ALREADY APPROVED, BUT IT WAS APPROVED UNDER A DIFFERENT SET OF FACTS BEFORE WE COOPERATED WITH THE CITY IN CLOSING THE, THE WATER CROSSING ON 1 77.
ONE, PAUSE ALL DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROPERTY UNTIL, UH, THE WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO EXTEND
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CRYSTAL FALLS TO ACCESS IT THAT WAY AND NEVER ALLOW ANY ACCESS ONTO 1 77.TWO, PUT A RED LIGHT OR OTHER TRAFFIC CONTROL MESS MECHANISMS IN THAT 1 77, WHICH WILL EVENTUALLY BE REQUIRED.
OR THREE, REOPEN THE LOW WATER CROSSING SO THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER ACCESS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT JUST TO ADD THIS TO THE RD INADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE AT 1 77 AND RONALD REAGAN IS SIMPLY UNACCEPTABLE.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, WITH THAT WE'LL CLOSE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
DO YOU WANNA MR YEAH, I ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE ISSUES.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S BEEN NO CONSTRUCTION STARTED ON THE, ON THIS, UM, PROPERTY AT THIS TIME.
UH, THERE WAS A, A COMMENT MADE OF, OF RUSHING THE PROJECT WE'RE, WE'RE OVER THREE YEARS AND HAVE PHASED IT IN OVER TIME.
THIS STILL HAS TO COME BACK FOR PLATING AFTER THE ADDITIONAL, UH, ASPECT OF, UM, ZONING.
SO THIS IS JUST A BASIC ZONING CASE.
UH, THE THOUGHT OF ASKING A DEVELOPER TO BUILD CRYSTAL FALLS ALL THE WAY FROM RONALD OR REAGAN TO A PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE IS UNHEARD OF, OBVIOUSLY.
AND I THINK YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT.
AND, UH, SOMETHING THAT, THAT COULDN'T, COULD NOT BE DONE AT THIS TIME.
UM, AGAIN, THERE HAS BEEN NO CONSTRUCTION STARTED.
IT HASN'T STARTED YET, EVEN IN THE TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS THAT THE PROPERTY'S BEEN OWNED.
THIS IS JUST THE SECOND PHASE AND WE WAITED OVER A YEAR TO COME BACK FOR THE SECOND PHASING OF THIS, UH, 57 HOMES.
UM, COINCIDENTALLY WITH THE, UH, WITH THE, UM, ADDITION OF CRYSTAL FALLS EXTENSION AS CRYSTAL FALLS EXTENSION WILL HAVE A LIGHT AT, AT REAGAN.
IT'S ON, UH, HAD BEEN PASSED WITH THE COUNTY BOND, THE COUNT THE CITY.
WE MET WITH THE CITY THIS MORNING ABOUT THAT PROJECT.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE INTERLOCAL.
SO, UM, THAT IS MOVING FORWARD AS WELL.
SO, UH, I THINK THAT IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTION, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE ABOUT THE PROPERTY.
BUT THIS IS JUST A STRAIGHT ZONING CASE.
UM, WITH THAT WE'LL GO INTO DISCUSSION.
I I'M GONNA JUMP IN ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I'M VERY CLOSE TO THIS PROPERTY AND I DO REMEMBER THIS CASE, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST A, JUST A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
AND, UM, I ECHO THE SENTIMENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE I USED COUNTY ROAD 1 7 1 77.
I ALSO KNOW THERE'S A CHURCH THERE AS WELL.
SO ON SUNDAYS THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC FROM THE CHURCH UP IN THE, IN THE FRONT.
I ALSO REMEMBER WHEN THIS CAME TO COUNCIL AND THEY LOOKED TO, TO PUT THE BLOCKADE AT THE BRIDGE OR CLOSE THE BRIDGE AND, AND, UH, FORGIVE ME FOR SAYING THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T REGULATE STUPID.
OKAY? THERE ARE GONNA BE, THERE ARE GONNA BE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA CROSS THAT BRIDGE EITHER AT A HIGH SPEED AND CAUSE AN ACCIDENT OR TRY TO TAKE A SCHOOL BUS WITH A FEW KIDS IN IT ACROSS A FLOODED, YOU KNOW, FLOODPLAIN.
SO I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE, THE FLOODING, 'CAUSE I LIVE ALONG THAT BRUSHY CREEK AREA JUST A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF YOU THERE.
AND I'VE ONLY SEEN TWO MAJOR FLOOD EVENTS.
UM, ONE WHICH GOT WITHIN ABOUT FIVE FEET, AND THAT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THERE ARE ENGINEERING AND THERE'S GONNA BE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, FLOOD PONDS AND THINGS PUT IN PLACE TO REGULATE THAT.
SO I DO TRUST THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE OKAY.
AND I, GIVEN HOW HEAVY THAT FLOOD EVENT WAS WHEN THAT BUS CROSSED, UM, THAT WAS STILL WASN'T QUITE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT CLOSE TO, TO THE VALLEY VIEW.
I KNOW IT WAS UP THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT WHEN THEY PUT THOSE GATES IN.
UM, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE OPENING OF 1 77 IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY DOES NEED TO RECONSIDER.
I DIDN'T AGREE WITH, WITH, WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL THEN, AND SO APOLOGIZE FOR SAYING THAT.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT 1 77 SHOULD BE REOPENED.
I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL REMEDIATION DONE TO THAT ROAD TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC TO AT LEAST ALLOW ACCESS TO THE EASTERN SIDE OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND, AND LEANDER.
UM, BUT, UH, BUT TO MR. FIELDER'S POINT, YOU KNOW, CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY CANNOT GET BUILT UNTIL WE, UNTIL WE IMPROVE THE ZONING AND THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WILL HELP COVER THE COSTS AND PAY FOR THESE ROAD CONSTRUCTION.
SO PART OF HIS DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY PAYING FOR A SECTION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY OF CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY.
UM, SO IT'S KIND OF PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE IN A WAY.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE PROBABLY A, A, A LITTLE BIT OF PAIN, BUT NONETHELESS, UM, I AM GLAD THAT COUNSEL DID NOT APPROVE THE, THE NO LEFT TURN OUT OF THAT ROADWAY.
NOW, I, I HAVE TO CROSS RONALD REAGAN ALL THE TIME TOO, AND I CAN TELL YOU, YEAH, IT, I HAVE TO PLAN AHEAD.
YOU KNOW, THIS MEETING IN GENERAL IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE I HAVE TO ACTUALLY LEAVE MY HOUSE AT AROUND FIVE 15.
SO I CAN GET HERE BY ABOUT FIVE 40 AND I LIVE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPICALLY IS ABOUT SEVEN MINUTES AWAY.
SO TRAFFIC HAS GOTTEN WORSE AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY'S WORKING ON THAT.
I DID WANT TO ASK, UH, THE STAFF DOES WHAT, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR CRYSTAL FALLS? WHERE, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT PROJECT? SO WE MAYBE GIVE SOME TIMELINES TO THOSE WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT TO GET AN IDEA OF LIKE WHEN THAT PROJECT IS GONNA, YOU KNOW, COME TO FRUITION IN, IN LIEU OF THE DEVELOPMENT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT? YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
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FIVE YEAR CIP, SO IT'S NOT A FUNDED PROJECT TODAY.UM, WHEN HE COMES IN FOR DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S GONNA BE A, A TRAFFIC REVIEW AND WE'LL HAVE TO DETERMINE THE MEANS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS AND OKAY.
THEY'LL HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY.
SO I KNOW LIKE WE HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH LIKE THE INTERSECTION OF LIKE PALMERA RIDGE AND REAGAN'S OVERLAKE ON RONALD REAGAN WITH SOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE APPROVED THERE.
AND I THINK IT SEEMS LIKE THE CITY WAS MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME TRAFFIC SIGNALS THERE AS WELL.
I THINK THERE'S SOME TEMPORARY IMPROVEMENTS, SOME TEMPORARY IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN UNTIL SAN GABRIEL GOES THROUGH, WHICH IS STILL, WHICH ACTUALLY THE, LIKE THE FUNDING WAS APPROVED RECENTLY ON THAT.
HOW CAN WE FAST TRACK THIS? I'M JUST CURIOUS.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T SOLVE THAT HERE, BUT I WANT TO JUST PUT FOR THE RECORD THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE, FIGURE THIS OUT.
'CAUSE CRYSTAL FALLS AND ACCESS THAT EASTERN SIDE IS A CRITICAL JUNCTURE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT SOON, ESPECIALLY FOR THESE FOLKS HERE AND FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING IN.
SO WE HAVE A-A-C-I-P PLAN AND UM, PART OF THAT'S GONNA BECOME A PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION.
SO WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECOMMEND PROJECTS FOR THE CITY TOO, AS A, AS A PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, YOU CAN, IT'S AT THE ANNUAL BUDGET, BUT, UM, WE'RE GONNA INVOLVE Y'ALL MORE IN THE CIP REVIEW IN THE COMING YEAR.
UM, AND WITH THAT I'LL GO TO MY LEFT TO, UH, VICE CHAIR COLOM.
UH, AS WITH THE EARLIER CASE WHEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE HERE, UH, SPEAKING ON, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS AND UNDERSTANDS THEY'RE HEARD, UM, BUT THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A STRAIGHT ZONING CASE TONIGHT.
UM, THIS IS ABOUT WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN DO WITH THE PROPERTY, UH, EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA DO IT COMES LATER IN THE PROCESS.
UM, AND, UH, I THINK SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ROADWAYS ARE, ARE, ARE LEGITIMATE.
I COULD HIT A GOLF BALL FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO THIS PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
AND ON MY WAY HERE TONIGHT, UH, I LEFT WHAT I THOUGHT WAS IN PLENTY OF TIME AND I TEXT, I KNOW THAT I KNEW THE MAYOR WAS GONNA BE SWEARING IN A BUNCH OF US TONIGHT AND I JUST STUCK IN TRAFFIC.
I TEXTED HER TRAFFIC LATE AND, UH, LUCKILY I GOT HERE WITH ABOUT TWO MINUTES TO SPARE.
UM, SO I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH OVER IN THAT AREA, BUT AGAIN, IT'S A ZONING CASE, WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THE PROPERTY AND, UM, AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH APPROVAL OF THIS TONIGHT.
COMMISSIONER LANTER, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER LADAY.
UM, I AM STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE ALTHOUGH I RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A STRAIGHT ZONING CASE AND THAT, UM, WE ARE MERELY, YOU KNOW, DECIDING WHETHER THE APPLICANT CAN DO WHAT UM, IT WANTS WITH THE PROPERTY, I DO ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THAT IS THE FIRST STEP IN, UM, CREATING A POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON A ROAD THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS ALREADY, UM, N NOT ADEQUATE FOR, UM, A BUNCH OF HOUSES.
UM, SO I'M TRYING TO RECONCILE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND I GUESS MY QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT IS, UM, HAVE YOU THOUGHT AT ALL, IF WE DO APPROVE THE ZONING TODAY, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, IN THE FUTURE FOR COUNTY ROAD 1 77? WELL, UN UNFORTUNATELY, AND YOU'LL LEARN THIS AS YOU GO ALONG, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE CONCERN OF THIS PROCESS.
THE ZONING IS TO ALLOW FOR AN ADDITIONAL 57 LOTS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SECOND PHASE, UH, NOT THE FIRST PHASE.
SO THE FIRST SET OF LOTS ARE ALREADY APPROVED AND THEY COULD BUILD ON THOSE AS SOON, SOON AS THEY GET APPROVED PLANS.
I MEAN, THOSE ARE DONE, THE PLATINGS DONE, EVERYTHING'S FINISHED ON THE FIRST HALF, ON THE BOTTOM HALF ON THE, THE BIGGER SECTION.
AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE CRYSTAL FALLS SPLIT IN THE MIDDLE.
AND THEN THIS IS FOR THE NORTHERN SECTION, WHICH ALL THOSE THINGS COME IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE COUNCIL INITIATIVE WAS FOR LARGE LOTS.
SO THESE ARE A MINIMUM OF 9,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
SO THEY'RE THE LARGER LOTS, THEY'RE, UH, LESS DENSE, UM, IN THE PROCESS.
AND THE, THIS DOES THE FIRST TWO LANES OF THE CRYSTAL FALLS, UH, PROCESS INTO THAT EXTENSION.
SO AS THE CITY MOVES FORWARD WITH CRYSTAL FALLS, AS THE COMMISSIONER SAID, AS THE CHAIRMAN SAID, THIS IS A, UH, CHICKEN AND EGG KIND OF THING.
UM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THESE PROCESSES AND THESE PROJECTS TO GET THE RIGHT OF WAY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THE ROAD.
YOU CAN'T BUILD THE ROAD WITHOUT HAVING THE DEVELOPMENT TO BUILD IT AND HAVE TO OFF OFFSET SOME OF THE COST.
AND I, I FULLY RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A ZONING CASE, BUT I THINK MY QUESTION REMAINS THE SAME.
HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT THE PLAN MIGHT BE? 1, 1 77 IMPROVEMENTS ARE NOT PART OF THE DEVELOPER'S RESPONSIBILITY IS THE, IS THE RESPONSE I'M, I'M SORRY, I'M NOT TRYING
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE, THE CITY SETS, UH, THEIR REGULATIONS IS WHAT THEY REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO DO, AND THAT'S NOT ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS.
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OF 1 77.IF IT WAS, IT WOULD ONLY BE ON THAT SECTION IN FRONT OF THEIR PROCESS.
NOW THEY DO PAY ROADWAY ADEQUACY FEES AND THOSE ADDITIONAL, UM, THINGS INTO THE, INTO THE FUND TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND I DON'T THINK, MY QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU PROPOSE TO IMPROVE ONE, IMPROVE 1 77? MY QUESTION IS MORE SO, UM, HAVE YOU THOUGHT AT ALL ABOUT A PLAN ON HOW TO, UM, DEAL WITH THE RESTRICTIONS OR INADEQUACY OF THAT ROAD WITH ALL OF THE TRAFFIC? WE, WE WILL DO WHATEVER THE CITY WOULD ASK US TO DO.
MEANING AS FAR AS, UM, RESTRICTING HOURS OF CONSTRUCTION TIMELINES, HOW THEY COME IN OUT, WHATEVER THAT IS, THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.
IT'S, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO 1 77 UNLESS THAT'S PART OF A, A, A PROCESS FROM THE CITY.
AM AM I MISTAKEN MS. GRIFFIN? OKAY.
I'VE, I'VE BEEN ON HERE FOR FIVE YEARS AND WE HEAR THESE ARGUMENTS QUITE OFTEN.
AND THE WAY THE CITY GOES ABOUT THIS IS WHEN YOU HAVE A ROAD WITH COW PASTURES ON BOTH SIDES, YOU CAN'T SAY, I'M GONNA SPEND $25 MILLION TO BUILD A FOUR-LANE ROAD OUT, 'CAUSE COWS DON'T DRIVE ON THE ROADS AS YOU ADD MORE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED FOR A SPECIFIC THING.
AND WE GO THROUGH THE ROADWAY ADEQUACY STUDIES AND WE DETERMINE SO MANY CARS ARE GONNA GO ON THIS ROAD.
IT REPRIORITIZES OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS TO MOVE SOME OF THESE ROADS UP FASTER.
IT'S NEVER FAST ENOUGH, UM, FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.
BUT I MEAN, EVEN IF WE APPROVE THE ZONING TODAY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA START BUILDING HOUSES TOMORROW.
UM, I REMEMBER THE FIRST ZONING CASE THAT, UH, I SAT ON FIVE YEARS AGO.
THEY'RE STILL NOT DONE WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD YET.
I, I DRIVE BY IT EVERY DAY AND IT'S NOT DONE.
AND PART OF THE, UH, ARGUMENT WITH THAT WAS, UH, HORIZON PARK, THE ADEQUACY OF THAT ROAD.
AND LIKE I SAID, UH, I WOULD SAY TWO THIRDS OF IT AREN'T EVEN FILLED YET.
UM, IT, IT'S A TOUGH SELL AND IT'S HARD FOR THE CITY TO, UM, BUILD OUT.
AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE, UM, FOR THIS.
I THINK WE LOOKED AT, WHEN WE DID THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN IS $350 MILLION IN ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THERE WERE SO MANY ROADS THAT WE LOOKED AT THAT WE SAID WE GOTTA BUILD AGAIN.
AND HOW DO, HOW DO WE PAY FOR THAT? UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE ZONING PART OF IT.
THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS.
MANY, UM, AND I, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAST THAT THEY CAN GET IT THROUGH PLANNING, BUT IT'S MORE THAN LIKELY A YEAR OR TWO BEFORE THE FIRST HOUSE SHOVELING GROUND.
IT WAS SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS FOR THE LAST PROCESS.
UM, AND A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES, OBVIOUSLY AFTER THAT.
I, I, UM, AND AGAIN, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CRYSTAL FALLS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE ROADS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
'CAUSE IF YOU, IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN FROM GEORGETOWN ROUND ROCK, ANYTHING AND HAVE TO CROSS RONALD REAGAN, UH, 2243 IS A MAJOR ROAD, TRY AND CROSS RONALD REAGAN AT RUSH HOUR.
I'VE SAT THERE FOR 20, 25 MINUTES TO GET THROUGH A TRAFFIC LIGHT.
UM, SO WE, WE ARE AWARE OF THESE ISSUES AND WE DO NEED ROADS LIKE CHRIS FALLS PARKWAY BUILT, UH, THE HERO WAY, UM, PROJECT GOING ALL THE WAY.
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? 12 LANES THERE THAT SHOULD ELIMINATE A LOT OF, UH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, AND AGAIN, THE, UM, WATERSHED, UH, TYPICALLY THE, UH, ENGINEERING THAT GOES INTO THAT, AGAIN, THEY'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THE WAY ALL OF THIS HAPPENS AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GO, UH, WORSE.
BUT, UH, AS FAR AS THE ZONING, I AM GOOD WITH IT.
YEAH, I, I DO HEAR YOUR CONCERN.
UM, THERE'S AN INTERESTING VIDEO LINE WITH OUR CITY MANAGER THAT KIND OF STATES THE PROCESS OF HOW ROADS ARE BUILT IN LEANDER.
AND YOU KNOW, THE FIRST STEP IS, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED THE DEVELOPERS
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TO COME IN AND, AND BUILD THEIR SECTION AND IT, THAT REALLY HELPS TO FUND THE FUTURE ROAD.SO UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 1 77 ISN'T QUITE ACCURATE, ADEQUATE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT DOES MEET THE LONG-TERM GOALS.
IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA.
THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BEING BUILT UP AND DOWN.
RONALD REAGAN, AND I'M SURE AS EVERYBODY WHO LIVES OR DRIVES UP AND DOWN RONALD REAGAN, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE GROWTH IN THAT AREA IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.
UM, SO THIS, I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE THE ONLY ONE.
SO I DO THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF ROADS THAT WE NEED IMPROVED, RIGHT? COMMISSIONER MAY ALLUDED TO IT THAT, UH, THAT WAS THE LAST TIME I HEARD ABOUT IT TOO, WAS $350 MILLION IN ROAD ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA NEED MORE BEYOND THAT.
THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHAT WE KNOW OUR IMMEDIATE NEED IS, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING FOR THAT.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, I, AND AS WAS STATED, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ZONING AND ALL THE APPLICANT IS TRYING TO DO IS MATCH THE ZONING THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH ALREADY ABUTS TO 1 77.
THEY WANT THE SAME IN THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY.
SO THEY, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS ALL THEIR SITE PLANS AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS GET APPROVED, CONSTRUCTION IS GONNA HAPPEN ON THAT SOUTHERN PORTION ANYWAY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO HERE TONIGHT.
UM, WHEN I LOOK AT, AND, AND EVERYONE'S HEARD ME SAY IT TONS, SO I'M SORRY FOR REPEATING MYSELF AGAIN.
UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, AS A, AS A ZONING COMMISSION, OUR JOB IS TO CALL BALLS AND STRIKES, RIGHT? DO WE LOOK AT THE, THE RULES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, UH, AND AND DO WE APPLY THOSE? NOW WE DO HAVE SOME LATITUDE IN VARIOUS THINGS, AND WE APPLY THAT AT TIMES.
UM, BUT THIS IS VERY CLEAR THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL.
UM, ONE OF THE, UH, ACCEPTABLE, UH, USE TYPES IS A SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN.
SO IN MY MIND, THAT'S KIND OF OKAY, YOU KNOW, SQUARE, SQUARE PEG, SQUARE HOLE, UM, FOR ME.
AND SO THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT EASY, BUT I, I DEFINITELY FEEL, UH, YOU GUYS, I I LIVE OFF OF, UH, CR TWO 80 AND I CALL IT, MY FAMILY CALLS IT COUNTRY ROAD TWO 80, UM, BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY NOT DEVELOPED EITHER.
AND WE HAVE THREE LARGE DEVELOPMENTS BEING BUILT AT THE SAME TIME RIGHT NOW, UH, ON OURS.
SO I, I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND, AND SOME OF THE OTHER TRAFFIC AND OTHER ISSUES THAT, THAT ARE, SO I'M NOT IMMUNE OR, UM, AVERSE.
IT'S NOT THAT I'M NOT HEARING YOU, IT'S JUST THAT, UH, I FEEL VERY STRONGLY, UH, WHETHER I AGREE WITH SOMETHING OR NOT.
IF IT FITS WITHIN THE GUIDELINES, THEN I, MY, MY JOB IS TO VOTE FOR IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE'LL, UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE? I HAVE A SECOND.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER LANTRIP.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AND PASS UNANIMOUSLY.
BEFORE WE GO, DO WE NEED TO TAKE A QUICK FIVE MINUTE BREAK? IS EVERYBODY GOOD TO PUSH ON FOR THE NEXT TWO CASES? OKAY, WE GOOD? ALRIGHT.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL CONTINUE ON UH,
[18. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-24-0149 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to SFS-2-A (Single-Family Suburban) on one (1) parcel of land approximately 28.74 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R338811; and generally located southeast of the intersection of Mineral Drive and CR 175, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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ITEM NUMBER 18, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.
CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z DASH 24 DASH 0 1 49 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM S FFR ONE B, SINGLE FAMILY RURAL TO SFS TWO, A SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY 28.74 ACRES IN SIZE.
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY WILLIAMSON COUNTY CENTRAL APPRAISAL.
PARCEL DISTRICT PARCEL IS R 3 3 8 8 1 1 AND GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF MINERAL DRIVE AND CR 1 75 LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS.
WE'LL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION.
DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION? YES.
AND BEFORE MS. CASTILLO GETS DONE WITH HER PRESENTATION, I APOLOGIZE, I LET MS. GRIFFIN KNOW BEFOREHAND, BUT I DO NEED TO, UH, LEAVE BECAUSE I HAVE A UNFORTUNATELY INTERNATIONAL WORK CALL THAT I HAVE TO ATTEND.
MY APOLOGIES TO THE COMMISSION, TO THE PUBLIC, ET CETERA.
UM, GOOD LUCK WITH THE REST OF THE NIGHT.
WELL, QUORUM IS STILL PRESENT, SO THANK YOU.
THIS FIRST, UM, THIS REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON CR 1 75 TO THE SOUTH OF TRAILS AT SHADY OAK SUBDIVISION AND ACROSS FROM THE LOST WOODS SUBDIVISION.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A PETITION FOR ANNEXATION OF THIS TRACK.
THIS TRACK IS ACTUALLY SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO WHEN THE DEVELOP THE PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT, IT'LL BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.
THEY HAVE ALREADY STARTED THAT PROCESS.
MM-HMM
THE PROPOSED ZONING IS FOR SFS
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TO BE SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS.THE PROPOSAL COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL IDENTIFIED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IN ADDITION, IT IS ALSO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL TO LIMIT CONSIDERATION OF ZONING REQUESTS THAT SEEK TO ADD RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND WILL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO PRESENT? YES.
JUST PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND THEN GO AHEAD.
HEY, UH, ALEX GRS WITH KIMLEY HORN ASSOCIATES.
UM, JUST KIND OF ECHO WHAT CORINA SAID HERE FOR THE SIM TRACK, 28 ACRES OVER ON, LEMME SEE, I'LL GO TO THE AERIAL.
YEAH, 1 75 JOURNEY PARKWAY AND 28 ACRES RIGHT HERE.
UM, KIND OF GO OVER CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS FAR AS THE PROPOSED USE FOR SINGLE FAMILY.
AND THEN KIND OF HAD A FEW PICTURES ON HERE OF, UH, I GUESS I'LL GO TO THIS ONE REAL QUICK.
THEN A FEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA.
WE WORK WITH THEM ON THE BARKSDALE PROJECT, WHICH IS OVER HERE ON JOURNEY PARKWAY.
THEY ALSO DEVELOPED THE LOST WOODS PRESERVE, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN DOING SOME OTHER ONES IN THE VICINITY.
AND THEN A FEW PICTURES OF SOME OF THE KIND OF PROPOSED HOMES, UH, THAT YOU COULD EXPECT TO SEE ON THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, WE HAVE TO DO MORE DETAILED ENGINEERING ON IT ONCE WE GOT TO IT, BUT THIS IS KINDA WHAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING.
PRETTY NARROW SIDE OVERALL, SO NOT REALLY MUCH MORE YOU COULD DO WITH IT BESIDES OKAY.
SO, UM, WE DID DO THE REQUIRED NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH.
WE HAD A FEW, I THINK 103 TOTAL LETTERS WERE MAILED, REACHED OUT TO THE TRAIL OF SHADY OAK, UH, HOA AS WELL AS THE LOSS WITH PRESERVE.
UM, GOT SOME, SOME FEEDBACK, I THINK NOT REALLY IN, UH, OPPOSITION FOR MORE QUESTIONS ON, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON, WHEN WILL IT, UH, BE DEVELOPED? AND IT'S REALLY ALL, ALL THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE.
SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
UH, AND WITH THAT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DO HAVE, UH, ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO, TO SPEAK AND I HAVE A COMMENT, UH, I HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE TO READ INTO THE RECORD.
OKAY, WELL I WAS MAKING SURE
ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE'LL MOVE ON THEN.
UH, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS TONIGHT? OKAY, I DO HAVE TWO NAMES TO READ IN HERE.
I HAVE A, UH, BARAT, UH, ME WHO IS AGAINST, AND THEN I ALSO HAVE A, UH, ADE UH, DASA POTTY WHO SAYS THEY'RE AGAINST AS WELL.
UH, AND WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL MOVE INTO DISCUSSION.
UH, COMMISSIONER MORALES? YEAH.
UM, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, IT DOES SEEM VERY APPROPRIATE FOR THE CURRENT ZONING, THE FUTURE LAND USE.
UM, AN EXTENSION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND IT.
ALRIGHT, VICE CHAIR, NO COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, OR COMPLAINTS.
AND I DID NOTICE THAT YOU HAD, YOU HAD ROUGHLY THE SITE PLAN WAS ABOUT 85 UNITS POTENTIAL.
SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER MORALES.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COLO.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALRIGHT.
AND LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UH, LET ME GET TO IT REAL QUICK.
[19. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Ordinance Case OR-24-0023 to amend the Composite Zoning Ordinance to update requirements for site development, dry utilities, and to provide for related matters; Williamson & Travis Counties, Texas.
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THIS IS, UH, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ORDINANCE CASE OR DASH 24 DASH 0 0 2 3.
TO AMEND THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE TO UPDATE REQUIREMENTS FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT, DRAW UTILITIES, AND TO PROVIDE FOR RELATED MATTERS.
WILLIAMSON AND TRAVIS COUNTY, TEXAS STAFF PRESENTATION.
THE REQUEST IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT PROCESS.
THIS AMENDMENT TO THE COMP, THE COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING.
IT CREATED THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES REVIEW COMMITTEE TO ALLOW FOR ADMINISTRATIVE FLEXIBILITY.
THIS HELPS THEM DETERMINE COMPLIANCE OF THE SIDE DEVELOPMENT SO IT CAN BE DISCUSSED AMONG THEM.
UM, UPDATED THE REQUIREMENTS FOR DRY UTILITY PERMITS.
CURRENTLY OUR ORDINANCE IS VERY SHORT ON THAT SECTION.
CLARIFIED THE PROCESS FOR SIDE DEVELOPMENT PERMITS, MINOR SIDE DEVELOPMENT PERMITS AND DRY UTILITY PERMITS.
THAT WAS KIND OF JUST A CLEANUP.
REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR APPROVAL OF A LIFT STATION REPORT, WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY ANALYSIS, DRAINAGE STUDIES, FLOODPLAIN DEVELOPMENT, TIA AND OR PRELIMINARY PARK PLAN IN ORDER TO BE IN COMPLIANT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RECENT LEGISLATIVE UPDATE.
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BEFORE WE WERE REQUIRING THAT THESE WERE, UM, SUBMITTED BEFORE WE ACCEPTED THE PROJECT FOR REVIEW.SO CURRENTLY WE ARE NOT DOING THAT ANYMORE.
WE ARE NOW REVIEWING THEM DURING THE REVIEW INSTEAD OF BEFORE THE REVIEW STARTS.
UM, PROVIDE AN OPTION FOR THE APPLICANT TO REQUEST AN EXTENSION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
IF THE APPLICATION EXPIRES, WE CURRENTLY ASK FOR IT TO BE REINSTATED AND THEY HAVE TO PAY HALF THE FEES THAT THEY PAID INITIALLY WHENEVER IT EXPIRES.
SO THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE THE PROJECT WITH AN EXTENSION, ESTABLISH A DEADLINE FOR THE COMMENCEMENT OF A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING TO START A PROJECT.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT JUST HAVE DELAYS.
THEY CHANGE CONTRACTORS OR THE PERMIT EXPIRES BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION STARTS AND THERE'S A LOT OF DISCONNECT.
SO THIS WOULD REQUIRE THAT THEY START THE PROJECT WITHIN 90 DAYS OF THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING.
THAT WAY WE CAN AVOID ANY OF THOSE ISSUES.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, IT ADDED PROVISIONS TO ALLOW FOR AN EARLY GRADING PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT.
THIS ALLOWS THEM TO GET A HEAD START WHILE THE SITE DEVELOPMENT IS BEING FINALIZED.
THIS IS NOT JUST CLEAR GRADING.
THERE IS, WHENEVER THERE'S A SITE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IN PLACE, IT'S GETTING WRAPPED UP AND THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND START THE GRADING SO THAT THEY CAN BE READY BY THE TIME THEY GET A PERMIT.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER TONIGHT? ALRIGHT, WITH THAT WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL ENTER INTO DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER LANTHROP, ONE QUESTION.
UH, THE EARLY GRADING PERMIT, I GUESS I, I KNOW A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS HAVE TO BE MET BEFORE YOU'RE GONNA ISSUE THAT.
AND THEN MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE READ IS THAT, UM, IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY DO THAT AND THEN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME GOES BY, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO RE-VEGETATE, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP IT FROM ERODING AND SO FORTH.
WHAT IS THERE A LOT, DO WE HAVE A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR THIS TYPE OF SITUATION? WE DO.
AND WHAT STEPS, I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD SOME INSTANCES BEFORE WHERE PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW THEY COULDN'T JUST GO OUT AND, YOU KNOW, BULLDOZE ALL THE TREES DOWN AND, AND START WORK ON THE PROPERTY EVEN BEFORE THEY CAME TO P AND Z.
SO WHAT, WHAT KIND OF STEPS ARE, ARE WE TAKING WITH THESE EARLY GRADING PERMITS SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THESE PARAMETERS.
I GUESS I'M, I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT SINCE WE'VE HAD SOME INSTANCES BEFORE WHEN WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THIS WHERE PEOPLE WENT OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES.
SO THIS WOULD ONLY APPLY IF YOU HAVE A SITE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S UNDER REVIEW AND THAT IT'S AT A CERTAIN POINT THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE JUST KIND OF WRAPPING UP THE LAST FEW ITEMS. OKAY.
SO WHILE THERE'S ANY DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE NEEDING TO BE COORDINATED, BUT WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE GRANTED AT THE FIRST REVIEW, JUST THEY SUBMITTED AND THEN WE GRANT THE PERMIT.
SO IT WOULD BE KIND OF TOWARDS THE END OF THE PROJECT.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER LADAY, NO COMMENT FROM ME.
AND COMMISSIONER MORALES? UH, NO COMMENT.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MAYE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LADAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AND WITH THAT TIME IS EIGHT 18 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.