[1. Open Meeting.]
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          GOOD EVENING. TODAY IS TUESDAY, JUNE 17TH, 2025 AND THE TIME IS 6:00 PM. AND THIS IS THE 
          [2. Roll Call.]
BRIEFING WORKSHOP OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL. CITY SECRETARY CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER STEVEN CHANG, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER MICHAEL HERRERA HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM NICOLE THOMPSON, PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW NADINE HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BECKY ROSS HERE. MAYOR CHRISTINE DELLA HERE. QUORUM IS PRESENT IN 
          [3. Roadway Impact Fees (RIF) and Roadway Adequacy Payment (RAP) Workshop]
THE CITY. COUNCIL IS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS. I AM NUMBER THREE. ROADWAY IMPACT FEES AND ROADWAY ADEQUACY. PAYMENT WORKSHOP WITH CITY ENGINEER TRUMAN. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, EMILY TRUMAN, CITY ENGINEER. I'M HERE WITH BEN FLEET, AND WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION CONCERNING ROADWAY ADEQUACY AND ROADWAY IMPACT FEES. SO THESE SLIDES ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD PRESENTED TO YOU GUYS EARLIER THIS YEAR. BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD REFRESHER TO DISCUSS. WE'RE HERE TO CURRENTLY OR TO EVALUATE THE CURRENT ORDINANCE USED TO DETERMINE THE FAIR SHARE FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS, BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL, AND CONTRIBUTING TO ADDRESSING TRANSPORTATION DEMANDS AND NEEDS ACROSS THE CITY. SO JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, WE HAVE ABOUT $320 MILLION OF TRANSPORTATION NEEDS IDENTIFIED IN THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN THAT WAS DONE IN 2021, AND THOSE WERE $2,021. SO WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN INFLATION, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. SO THIS I'M JUST GOING TO TOUCH BASE ON SOME OF THE THREE ELEMENTS OF TRANSPORTATION WE HAVE IN CURRENT ORDINANCES. THIS SORT OF GOES 30 ZERO ZERO ZERO FOOT DOWN TO ACTUAL SITE SPECIFIC. SO THE FIRST ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE FOR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS IS THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES. THIS WAS A WE ADOPTED IT IN 2023 AND STARTED COLLECTING ON IT IN 2024. THESE ARE FEES THAT ARE ASSESSED TO A PROJECT BASED ON ITS USE. AND WE USE THE IT TO DETERMINE TRIPS THAT THEN GET CONVERTED INTO PARTICIPATION PER SERVICE AREA. SO WE'RE LOOKING KIND OF BROAD BRUSH. WE'RE LOOKING AT BIG CHUNKS OF LAND IN THE CITY AND THE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS IN THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR SECTION OF THE CITY. AND ASSIGNING A VALUE OR A AN IMPACT TO THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. AND OUR CURRENT COLLECTION RATE. SO WE SET THE MAXIMUM ASSESSED FEE, WHICH IS ALSO THE ROUGH, PROPORTIONATE IMPACT OF THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. AND THE COLLECTION RATE WAS SET BY COUNCIL TO BE 50% FOR RESIDENTIAL AND 10% FOR NONRESIDENTIAL. AND THAT'S OUR CURRENT COLLECTION RATE FOR RIFF FEES. THE NEXT ORDINANCE IS THE ROADWAY ADEQUACY STANDARDS, AND THIS IS USED TO HELP US WITH DESIGNING INTERNAL AND ADJACENT ROADS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT SUBSTANDARD, THE ONES THAT ARE INTERNAL, THAT THEY DESIGNED TO MINIMUM CITY STANDARDS, AND THE ONES THAT ARE EXTERNAL, THAT THEY IMPROVE THEM BEYOND SUBSTANDARD CONDITION. THAT INCLUDES DEDICATION OF RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN AND THEN ALSO CONSTRUCTION. AND THE WAY THAT IT'S IMPLEMENTED IS IF YOU'RE IF THERE'S A ROAD LIKE BAGHDAD THEN AND YOU NEED TO DEDICATE RIGHT AWAY OR DO CONSTRUCTION ON THE ROAD LIKE THAT OR COUNTY ROAD 280, THEN YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE HALF OF THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION OR ONE HALF OF THE CONSTRUCTION. AND THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THAT. THERE IS ALSO SO THERE'S A CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENT, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE CITY ENGINEER TO ACCEPT PAYMENT IN LIEU OF. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN CALLING THE RAP, THE ROADWAY ADEQUACY PAYMENT. SO THAT'S THE THAT ORDINANCE. SO NOW WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE CLOSER. LIKE WHAT ARE YOUR ADJACENT ROADS. YOU KNOW BEFORE IT'S LIKE WHERE ARE YOU IN THE CITY. WHAT ZONE ARE YOU IN NOW? WE'RE LIKE, WHAT ARE YOUR ADJACENT ROADS? SO WE'RE KIND OF NARROWING DOWN THE NEXT ORDINANCE THAT IS APPLICABLE FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT IS A TRAFFIC STUDY OR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT YOUR PARTICULAR PROJECT. AND WHAT DO YOU NEED FOR THAT 
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PROJECT? A LOT OF TIMES WITH TIAS AND TRAFFIC STUDIES, WHAT COMES OUT OF THEM IS TURN LANES, DECEL LANES, MAYBE A SIGNAL. IT WON'T EVER LOOK AT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OF AN ADJACENT ROAD. IT RARELY DOES. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU GET OUT OF A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OR TRAFFIC STUDY. AND THOSE ARE USUALLY VERY SITE SPECIFIC. AND UNLESS IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, AN INTERSECTION SIGNAL OR SOMETHING, MOST OF THE TIME IT'S 100% DEVELOPER, LIKE A DECELERATION LANE OR A TURN LANE INTO A DRIVEWAY WOULD BE A 100% DEVELOPER REQUIRED TRAFFIC MITIGATION. SO THE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE START GETTING INTO THE ONES THAT ARE AT INTERSECTIONS, THEN WE START DEALING WITH, WELL, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ONLY 10% RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING IN THIS SIGNAL. WELL, WHO'S GOING TO FUND THE OTHER 90% OF THAT SIGNAL. SO THAT'S WHERE WE START GETTING INTO A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY IMPACT FEES ENOUGH TO FUND SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN I'M GOING TO LET BEN TAKE OVER FROM HERE TO TALK ABOUT SUBSTANDARD ROAD DEFINITIONS. YEAH. HEY EVERYONE. SO WE KIND OF CAME ON BOARD TO TAKE A LOOK AND COMPARE LEANDER TO OTHER ADJACENT CITIES, REALLY WITH THE WHOLE ROADWAY ADVOCACY PAVEMENT. HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT ROADS STILL GET BUILT TO A STANDARD THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY? ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE NOTICE IS THAT THE THERE WASN'T A GOOD DEFINITION FOR A SUBSTANDARD ROADWAY. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ROADS LIKE THIS THAT NEED TO BE UPGRADED TO A STANDARD ROADWAY, WE'RE THINKING LIKE OLD COUNTY ROADS THAT ARE 18FT WIDE. YOU CAN'T GET AN AMBULANCE DOWN THOSE ROADWAYS. 
          YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A DEFINITION SO A DEVELOPER KNOWS WHEN THEY COME IN. OKAY, I SEE THAT THAT ROAD DOESN'T MEET THESE FEW CRITERIA SHOWN HERE. SO AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO UPGRADE IT TO THE MINIMUM STANDARD. SO GENERALLY THOSE DON'T HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH CAPACITY. THEY'RE MOSTLY PHYSICAL CONSTRAINTS OF THE ROADWAY. SO ONES THAT WE SEE ADJACENT IN THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA IS OFTENTIMES IT'S GOING TO BE LESS THAN 26FT IN WIDTH, A PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX OF LESS THAN 50. SO IT'S LIKE A TESTING OF THE ROADWAY TO SEE THE CONDITION OF THE PAVEMENT. YOU KNOW, LIKE A DIRT ROAD OBVIOUSLY WOULD NOT PASS THIS, WHEREAS A BRAND NEW CONSTRUCTED ROAD WOULD HAVE A MUCH HIGHER INDEX THAN THAT. MAKE SURE THAT THE WATER OR I'M SORRY THAT IT DRAINS PROPERLY AND WATER DOES NOT OVERTOP THE ROAD IN THE 50 YEAR CONDITION, AND THEN A ROAD THAT DOES NOT HAVE SIDEWALK ADJACENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT. THE PURPOSES OF THIS. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? OH YEAH. GO AHEAD. DOES THAT MEET ALL OF THOSE OR JUST ONE OF ANY OF THOSE? ONE OF ANY OF THOSE OKAY. WELL I THINK ALL OF THAT. RIGHT. CORRECT. IF IT DOESN'T MEET ONE OF THOSE, IT DOESN'T MEET. IT'S NOT A STANDARD. IT IS A SUBSTANDARD ROAD. IF IT DOESN'T MEET ANY ONE OF THOSE. YEAH. YEAH. AND YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO BUILD A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, 200 OR 300 HOUSES, THEY'RE NOT TAKING ACCESS TO A ROAD WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T GET IN AND OUT. IT'S IN THE DEVELOPER'S INTEREST AND EVERYTHING TO DO THIS. JUST HAVING A GOOD DEFINITION IS THE CHANGE WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. I GUESS I WOULD THERE BE OTHER ITEMS THAT WOULD MAKE IT SUBSTANDARD BESIDES THESE? WELL, YEAH, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE ADDRESSED IN THIS THE SECOND. SORRY. WE NEED IT IN THE MICROPHONE. SORRY. THAT'S SORT OF WHAT WE ADDRESSED IN THE SECOND SENTENCE OF THE ACTUALLY THE THIRD SENTENCE IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH IS, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE PROPOSED SPEED LIMIT. YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PAVEMENT SITE DISTANCE, SAFE ACCESS, DRAINAGE. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT COULD BE MORE SITE SPECIFIC. IT'S HARD TO MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT ON THOSE, BUT THERE WILL BE INSTANCES WHERE THE MINIMUM ISN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO BE ENOUGH. YEAH, JUST TO PICK ON ONE OF THOSE YOU DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, A CURVE THAT'S MEANT TO NAVIGATE OR ROAD THAT WAS DESIGNED TO DRIVE AT 20 MILES AN HOUR, AND THE SPEED LIMIT IS 40 MILES AN HOUR. SO WE'D HAVE BOTH THE QUANTITATIVE, AS YOU SEE HERE AND THEN THE QUALITATIVE THAT ARE ABOVE AS WELL. AS PART OF THIS EXERCISE, WE LOOKED AT THE CHANGE OF LAND USE POLICY AT NEIGHBORING CITIES, AND WE'RE LOOKING INTO IF WE COULD DO ANY WAY TO IMPROVE THIS. GENERALLY, HOW IT'S DONE IS WHEN A SHELL DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, THEY ASSUME SOME ROADWAY IMPACT FEE. YOU KNOW, USUALLY IT'LL BE AN INDUSTRIAL USE OR RETAIL USE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN AT BUILDING PERMIT, THE ACTUAL LAND 
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USE WILL PAY. SO IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE SHELL DEVELOPMENT PAID AND WHAT THE RESTAURANT COMES IN AND PAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY WOULD JUST PAY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE IMPACT FEES. WE WENT AHEAD AND FOLLOWED UP. I'VE HELPED WITH THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES FOR ALL OF THESE CITIES. OR CAN WE? HORN? HAS I PERSONALLY DONE ALL OF THEM IN FORT WORTH? KIMLEY-HORN HAS DONE A BUNCH WITH THEM, AND THIS POLICY IS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH HOW EVERYONE ELSE DOES IT. I KNOW THIS PART OF THE POLICY CAN BE A HEADACHE SOMETIMES BECAUSE IT FEELS UNEXPECTED, ESPECIALLY AS YOU RAMP UP YOUR ROADWAY IMPACT FEE POLICY. SO ARE YOU SAYING? YEAH, SO ARE YOU SAYING IF DEVELOPMENT IS DONE, THEY GO BUILD IT, THEY'RE GOING TO PAY YOU SOME TYPE OF ROADWAY IMPACT FEE FOR WHAT THEY DESIGNED IT FOR? CORRECT? CORRECT. BUT THEN IF SOMETHING CHANGES WITHIN THAT ATTENDANT OR WHATEVER CHANGES BEFORE IT EVEN OPENS, THEN THEY COULD BE ADDITIONAL FEES BASED OFF THE USE OF THAT. RIGHT? I MEAN, THE SHELL ASSUMPTION IS ACTUALLY REALLY CONSERVATIVE. SO A COMMERCIAL SHELL, AN INDUSTRIAL SHELL AND A RETAIL SHELL, IT ACTUALLY COVERS A LOT OF THE TYPES OF USE. IT'S ONLY WHEN YOU GET LIKE SOMEBODY WHO GOES INTO A RETAIL CENTER AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WANTS TO OPEN A DAYCARE, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE THE USE CHANGES SIGNIFICANTLY, WHERE WE WOULD SEE A DIFFERENCE IN FEE. BUT MOST TIMES THE SHELL, WHAT THE PERSON PAYS WHO BUILDS THE SHELL USUALLY COVERS THE TENANTS. MY CONCERN IS BECAUSE WE HAD A BUSINESS RECENTLY SO REAL QUICK. SO I THINK THE TIMES WHEN WE SEE CONCERNS, IT'S BEEN WHEN WE HAVE A BUILDING THAT'S EXISTED FOR A LONG TIME. RIGHT. SO THEY DIDN'T PAY THE INITIAL FEES AND THEN THEY COME IN AND THE CHANGE OF USE IS MORE CHALLENGING. THE RECENT ONE WE HAD, WE DID MAKE ASSUMPTIONS THAT IT WAS LIKE LIGHT MANUFACTURING BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS USER WAS A FABRICATION PLANT. THEY DIDN'T PAY FOR THAT ROADWAY IMPACT FEE, BUT WE GAVE THEM CREDIT FOR THAT AND THEY HAD TO DO THE DIFFERENCE. BUT IT WAS CHALLENGING BECAUSE THEY WENT FROM FABRICATION TO A GYMNASTICS STUDIO. RIGHT. AND THE FEES WERE SUBSTANTIAL. I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT A SMALL BUSINESS THAT'S TRULY A SMALL BUSINESS, AND THE IMPACT THAT COULD ACTUALLY HAVE ON THEM BEING ABLE TO ACTUALLY OPEN IN OUR CITY, THAT'S ONE THAT I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO SEE CHANGE PERSONALLY. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO GET THE STATISTICS ON HOW OFTEN IN THE LAST 2 OR 3 YEARS THAT'S HAD TO. THERE'S BEEN A DIFFERENCE IN DELTA. THAT WOULD BE ONE. AND THIS ONE IS OFF A YEAR AWAY. TO RECONCILE THE. YEAH, I MEAN WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF TIMES WHERE AND THIS IS ANOTHER THING THAT WE YOU'LL SEE THIS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AUTOMATING THE FORM BECAUSE WHERE WE HAVE SEEN ISSUES IS THE PERSON WHO'S THE TENANT FILLING OUT THE FORM AND DOESN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND IT. AND THEY SEE THAT THEY HAVE A FEE. BUT THEN WHEN THEY COME TO THE CITY WE SAY, NO, YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE IT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T FILL OUT THE FORM CORRECTLY. SO WE'RE WORKING ON AUTOMATING THAT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT HUB. SO THAT WILL TAKE OUT SOME OF THAT CONCERN. SO MOST OF THE TIME WE LOOK AT IT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ONE. AND WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER LIKE IT IS A BIGGER TRANSPORTATION IMPACT IF YOU GO FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT HAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC, A LOT OF PARENTS DROPPING OFF AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I MEAN, THERE I MEAN, IT IS LIKE A REALISTIC IMPACT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ADT IS ON HERE AWAY, ESPECIALLY ON THIS PART OF TOWN, BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE IT, THIS BUSINESS INCREASING THAT MUCH TRAFFIC ON HERE, AWAY ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN THAT WE EVEN NOTICE THE IMPACT. OKAY. PERSONALLY. WELL I'M SORRY JUST A MOMENT, COUNCILMEMBER HERRERA. WELL, I JUST SAY YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING AND SO BUT WE HAVE SCHOOLS, THEY DON'T PAY ANY ROAD IMPACT FEES, RIGHT. AND THEY BASICALLY CLOG EVERY STREET AROUND HERE AT CERTAIN TIMES OF DAY. AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN ROADS THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE. CHARTER SCHOOLS GOING INTO THAT ARE GOING TO CAUSE ALL KINDS OF TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AND ALL THAT. I KNOW WE'RE WE'RE WHERE WHERE YOU LIVE. THAT WAS A THING. SO I THINK THAT THE CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE PAYING RIFF. AND THE, THE SCHOOL SCHOOLS HAVE TO DO TRAFFIC STUDIES AND THEY ARE PARTICIPATING IN ROADWAY ADEQUACY. AND THEY'RE MAKING, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE MAKING THE MITIGATIONS FOR THAT ARE ACCORDING TO THEIR TRAFFIC STUDIES. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE THEM PUT MORE CARS ON THEIR LOTS INSTEAD OF PUTTING THEM IN THE STREETS? WELL, WE DO NOW REALLY FOCUS ON THE CIRCULATION INTERNAL CIRCULATION PLANS, WHICH MAYBE WASN'T DONE PREVIOUSLY. AND SO WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT THEY 
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THEY ARE ADEQUATELY HANDLING THEIR WHAT THEY PROPOSE THEIR, YOU KNOW, PICK UP AND DROP OFF IS INTERNALLY. THE MOST RECENT SCHOOL WE'VE LOOKED AT HAS A GOOD AMOUNT OF QUEUING AND STUFF INTERNALLY, SO THAT WE FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT IT ISN'T GOING TO LIKE ROLL OFF INTO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. SO I DID HAVE A QUESTION. SO YOU TALKED ABOUT WHEN I GO AND I HAVE THIS PIECE OF LAND AND I SAY I'M GOING TO PUT A MCDONALD'S HERE, I'M GOING TO PUT A CULVERT HERE, I'M GOING TO PUT ALL THESE THINGS ON HERE. AND SO THAT'S BUILT INTO THE INITIAL PLAN THAT I GO. AND I WOULD PAY THE FEE OR THE FEE OR THE FEES ON. RIGHT. AND THEN WHEN I ACTUALLY GO IN THERE AND I'M THE MCDONALD'S AND I SHOW UP AND I WANT TO PUT MY, MY BUSINESS THERE, IT'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT PART. OR AM I GOING TO HAVE TO ADD THAT ONTO MY COST OF GOING INTO THAT LOCATION, BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER DIDN'T PAY IT, BUT I'M AS A RENTER GOING TO PAY IT OR THE LEASE. WHOEVER PULLS THE BUILDING PERMIT IS WHO PAYS IN THAT SITUATION. SO I THINK WITH THE MCDONALD'S, MOST LIKELY THE BUILDING PERMITS ALREADY BEEN PULLED BEFORE THEY MOVE INTO THE PREVIOUS PERSON. I MEAN, USUALLY IT'S THE MCDONALD'S THAT PULLS THE IT IS MCDONALD'S. OKAY, MCDONALD'S MIGHT NOT BE A GREAT EXAMPLE, BUT JUST IN GENERAL A BUSINESS IT'S AT BUILDING PERMIT IS WHAT IT IS WHEN THEY BUILD THE BUILDING AND THEN WHEN THE TENANT COMES IN, LIKE IF THEY BUILD A SHELL AND IT'S EMPTY, AND WHEN THE TENANT COMES IN TO DO A TENANT FINISH OUT, THEY JUST RECONCILE THAT THEY'RE BUILDING SOMETHING THAT'S WITHIN THAT. WHAT THE BUILDER OF THE BUILDING ASSUMED. SO I'VE RENTED SPOTS IN OFFICES WHERE WE'RE BASICALLY ON YOUR LEASE. IT TELLS YOU WHAT YOUR DENSITY CAN BE. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE 12 PARKING SPOTS AND ALL THAT. AND SO I IMAGINE THEY KIND OF FIT THOSE INTO WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED. AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS A BUSINESS THAT COMES IN THERE AND BLOWS IT ALL UP AND TAKES ALL THE PARKING AND ALL THAT. BUT HOW DO WE KEEP IT FROM BEING A DECISION OR A OR A AN ITEM THAT KEEPS A BUSINESS FROM ACTUALLY NOT COMING HERE BECAUSE OF SOME FEE NEFARIOUS FEE? IS THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD, YOU KNOW, PREVENT THAT. I DO KNOW THIS IS A POLICY THAT IS VERY IT'S VERY YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF REGIONAL, I MEAN, ROUND ROCK, GEORGETOWN, PFLUGERVILLE, AUSTIN. I THINK. HUTTO. NO. 
          TAYLOR TAYLOR HAS ONE. I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S A PRETTY ACCEPTABLE, YOU KNOW, IDEA. THESE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES. SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR THE AREA. THAT QUESTION ALMOST SEEMS LIKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SHOULD WE DO ROADWAY IMPACT FEES OR NOT. RIGHT. IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IF IT'S A BRAND NEW BUILDING OR AN EXISTING BUILDING IN BOTH SITUATIONS. IF YOU WANT TO PUT WHATEVER YOUR BUSINESS IS IN A BRAND NEW BUILDING, YOU WILL OWN, OR IF YOU WANT TO RETROFIT AN OLD BUILDING, YOU WILL ALSO OWE A LESSER ONE. TO BE FAIR, MISS GRIFFIN. SO I JUST PULLED THE NUMBERS AND WE'VE COLLECTED THREE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES FROM CHANGE OF TENANT CASES. AND IT'S A TOTAL OF $9,000 FOR ALL THREE TOGETHER. FOR OVER WHAT PERIOD OF TIME SINCE WE STARTED. SO SINCE 24TH JANUARY, 24TH JANUARY WE STARTED. YEAH. SO IT'S NOT COMMON. RIGHT. AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL INSTANCES TO EMILY'S POINT WHERE THEY'VE SUBMITTED THE FORM AND THEY SEE THE FEE CALCULATION AT THE BOTTOM. IT'LL SAY NO FEE REQUIRED AND THEY JUST DON'T KNOW TO READ THAT BOTTOM. I'VE HAD THAT EXPERIENCE SEVERAL TIMES WHERE I'VE HAD TO COACH THEM. LOOK AT THE BOTTOM CORNER OKAY. AND THAT'S YOUR FEE. SO OKAY. YEAH I AM HEARING SOME CONFUSION UP HERE. I'M HONESTLY A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ON SOME OF THIS. YOU LISTED CITIES WITH SIMILAR POLICIES. 
          WHAT ARE THE OTHER CITIES DOING? WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THE SAME POLICY OKAY I KNOW, I MEAN THE ONES THAT AREN'T LISTED HERE, LIKE WHAT IS CEDAR PARK DOING? OH, THESE ARE JUST ONES I RAAF. 
          SO HOW DO THEY. THEY DON'T. SO WHEN SOMEBODY HAS A CHANGE OF TENANT, THIS IS NEVER AN ISSUE FOR THEM WHERE YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE OCCUPANCY. AGAIN. IF THEY CHANGE THEIR TENANT, THEY MAY MAKE THEM UPDATE THEIR TIA AND THAT MIGHT GENERATE SOME FEES, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT WOULD GENERATE MAYBE SOME TRAFFIC MITIGATION. OKAY. BUT IT WOULDN'T GENERATE RAF FEES OKAY. SO THIS LIST IS NOT COMPREHENSIVE. THESE ARE THE ONES I EMAILED AND SAID THIS IS THE THIS IS WHAT I THINK YOUR POLICY IS. IS THAT CORRECT? AND THEY SAID YES, THAT IS WHAT I WAS GETTING AT IS SINCE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT JUST STANDARD BLANKET ACROSS THE BOARD, EVERY SINGLE CITY HAS IT. IT'S JUST SORT OF OKAY, WELL, WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE? IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S COMMON PRACTICE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW. SO OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE ONE MORE CLARIFIER ON THE ISD. QUESTION WE RAISED CAN BE CHARGED AN IMPACT FEE. THAT'S WITHIN THE STATE LAW. I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE DECISION NOT TO DO THAT HERE, BUT IT IS STATE LAW. SO THANK YOU. COOL. SO THE CURRENT STATUS IS THE 
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CITY ENGINEER HAS THE ABILITY TO WAIVE ROADWAY ADEQUACY PAYMENT RIGHT NOW. AND THAT HAS BEEN THE PRACTICE. ROADWAY ADEQUACY PAYMENT IS NOT CURRENTLY BEING ASSESSED. THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS WE WANTED DEVELOPMENT TO PAY ONE SINGLE FEE. THAT WAS CLEAR HERE. SO WE DECIDED TO DEFER THAT TO THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. I THINK THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM COUNCIL WAS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT JUST BECAUSE WE REMOVED THE ROADWAY ROADWAY ADEQUACY PAYMENT, WE WEREN'T LOSING OUT ON MONEY. SO TO DO THAT, WE WOULD NEED TO INCREASE THE RAF COLLECTION RATE. SO WITH ME AND THEN SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SCENARIO ONE. 
          SCENARIO ONE IS WHAT WE WERE DOING BEFORE WHEN WE HAD BOTH RIFF AND RAP. SCENARIO TWO IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. WE'VE REMOVED RAP, BUT WE'RE STILL COLLECTING RIFF AT THE SAME RATE. SCENARIO THREE, FOUR AND FIVE ARE SIMILAR, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ESCALATING HOW MUCH RESIDENTIAL PAYS VERSUS HOW MUCH NONRESIDENTIAL PAYS. AND I DON'T HAVE THOSE DEFINITIONS HERE, BUT IF YOU FOLLOW ME, LIKE SCENARIO THREE IS 80% RESIDENTIAL, PAYS 80% OF THE MAX, SCENARIO FOUR IS RESIDENTIAL, PAYS 90% OF THE MAX. SCENARIO FIVE IS RESIDENTIAL, PAYS THE FULL MAX FEE. THE CORRESPONDING NUMBERS 50, 40, 30 GOING DOWN FROM SCENARIO THREE, FOUR AND FIVE. THOSE ARE THE NON RESIDENTIAL PAYMENTS. SO BASICALLY WE'RE SAYING WHO'S GOING TO MAKE UP THIS DIFFERENCE IS THE OPTIONS PROVIDED HERE THAT RAP IS LEAVING. SO JUST GIVE YOU AN IDEA BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH SERVICE AREA BY SERVICE AREA HERE. THESE ARE WHERE THE SERVICE AREAS ARE GENERALLY LOCATED. AND IT GOES AROUND CLOCKWISE A B I KNOW IT DOESN'T QUITE A, B C, D AND THEN E IS RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY IT STARTED OUT AS FOUR. AND THEN WE ADDED E AND THEN YOU MOVED. IT WAS IT'S KIND OF A REDEVELOPMENT AREA. YEAH. IT'S GOING TO GET LESS. YEAH A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          YEAH. SO IN THOSE SCENARIOS I'M SORRY IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALL. BUT IN THOSE SCENARIOS THIS IS HOW MUCH WE WOULD HAVE COLLECTED. WE HAVE A SUMMARY SLIDE FOR ALL OF THEM AT THE END BUT RUNNING THROUGH THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. SO AGAIN SCENARIO ONE IS WHAT WE WERE DOING. SCENARIO TWO IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING. AND THREE, FOUR AND FIVE ARE SHOWING THE DIFFERENCE. IF WE CHANGED THOSE COLLECTION RATES. AND JUST TO CONTEXT, THESE ARE THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE COLLECTED SINCE WE STARTED COLLECTING IN JANUARY 2024. SO THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL PROJECTS THAT WE'VE COLLECTED IN EACH SERVICE AREA. YES. THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          GOTCHA. SO THAT OUT THE ONSET, THESE ARE REAL PROJECTS. SO LET'S SAY THIS POLICY STARTED BACK WHEN WE STARTED COLLECTING THESE ARE ACTUAL PROJECTS. AND ARE THESE ONLY FOR NEW PROJECTS, ONLY PROJECTS THAT WERE ASSESSED BOTH A RIFF AND NOT THE TENANT. WE'RE NOT DOING ANY OF THE TENANT. OH OKAY. YES, YES. IN THIS THIS IS NEW CONSTRUCTION. ARE THE JUST REAL QUICK IN THE SERVICE AREAS ARE THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE LISTED, ARE THEY GERMANE TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA? LIKE WOULD WE SEE THESE SAME TYPE OF BUSINESSES IN OTHER AREAS OR. YES, YES THEY WOULD BE. YES. OKAY. SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT'S IN SERVICE AREA A POTENTIALLY IN SERVICE AREA D YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE SPECIFIC ONES ARE, BUT LIKE THE COFFEE TEA SHOP THAT COULD BE LIKE A STARBUCKS. YEAH THAT COULD BE ANYWHERE. ANYTHING LOCAL COFFEE SHOP AS WELL. SAME THING. SO IT'S NOT ISOLATED TO THAT SPECIFIC AREA OKAY. JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT THE COLLECTION RATE IS OR NOT THE COLLECTION RATE, THE ASSESSED RATE IS DIFFERENT PER SERVICE AREA AND IT'S BASED ON THE TRANSPORTATION NEED OF THAT SERVICE AREA. GOTCHA. SO SOME OF THE SOME OF THE COLLECTION ARE ASSESSED. RATES ARE HIGH BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO SPEND MORE MONEY. OR THEY'RE SMALL AREAS THAT HAVE VERY LITTLE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S AVAILABLE THERE. SO THEN IT ASSESSES A HIGHER SERVICE OR A HIGHER ASSESSED RATE ON IT. DO WE HAVE A MEAN ACROSS ALL OF THE SERVICE AREAS FOR THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF BUSINESS? IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT WE HAVE AN INCREASED COST IN A VERSUS E, FOR INSTANCE, RIGHT, THERE'S A MEAN BETWEEN THOSE. RIGHT? PROBABLY. 
          CAN WE DO THAT? I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE? THERE'S A WAY THAT YOU CAN JUST CALCULATE A MEAN BETWEEN ALL OF THESE SERVICE AREAS. THAT IS TRUE THAT THE CITIES HAVE DONE THAT. CITIES HAVE. CAN WE DO THAT? SO WE HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. THAT'S MY REQUEST. I'D LIKE TO SEE A MEAN BETWEEN ALL OF THESE CHARGES, BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CITY AS A WHOLE INSTEAD OF THE SPECIFIC REGIONS THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE QUOTING HERE, WHICH, I MEAN, THIS IS GREAT. BELIEVE ME, THE DATA IS THERE. I'M JUST SAYING GIVE US A MEAN. SO NOW WE CAN SAY, OKAY, BASED ON AN AVERAGE COFFEE SHOP, THIS IS THE 
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MEAN FOR WHATEVER OUR RIP RAP OR WHATEVER IT IS, RIGHT? FOR EVERY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. I THINK WHAT YOU CAN DO IN MY OPINION. OKAY. AND I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THIS, BUT IN MY OPINION, YOU'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THE SERVICE AREAS AND YOU'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES. YOU COULD TAKE ALL OF THAT DATA ACROSS ALL OF THOSE FIVE AREAS. YOU CAN FIND A MEAN FOR EACH ONE. SO APPLYING THAT IN EACH AREA JUST ON THIS LIST, JUST FROM THE LIST. JUST FROM THE LIST. SO THE ONLY VARIABLE THAT CHANGES RIGHT NOW IS THE COLLECTION RATE. SO A MEAN OF THE COLLECTION RATES IS EASY TO SHOW. WE HAVE SLIDES COMING UP WHERE THEY'LL BE ON A GRAPH. 
          THERE WILL NOT BE A MEAN BUT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE MEAN IS. OKAY MAYBE I JUMPED AHEAD. YEAH, THAT MIGHT EXPLAIN IT. JUST TO POINT OUT THAT OTHER POINT OF VIEW IS WHAT, BY VARYING THE COLLECTION RATE, THE REASON THEY ARE VARIED IS BECAUSE IF YOU'RE DEVELOPING AND SAY, I DON'T KNOW A GOOD EXAMPLE, BUT SERVICE AREA A, IT DOESN'T NEED AS MUCH ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE AS SERVICE AREA C MAY NEED. THE COST OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS MORE THAT. THAT IS THE IDEA OF THE CONVERSE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I ALSO THINK THAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES YOU TO KEEP IT LIKE IN A FIVE MILE. IS THAT IT? CORRECT. SO THE THOUGHT IS IT'S WITHIN A SIX MILE SERVICE AREA. 
          SO WHENEVER YOU COLLECT IN SERVICE AREA C YOU HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY IN SERVICE AREA C AND THE SERVICE AREAS ARE BOUND BY A SIX MILE TRIP LENGTH. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER RUSS, I MAY BE MAKING THIS UP, SO PLEASE TELL ME IF I AM OR NOT, BUT I THOUGHT I REMEMBER WHEN ALL THIS CAME TO BE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT THERE WAS A STATE LAW MAYBE, OR SOMETHING THAT SAYS YOU CAN ONLY SPEND THE MONEY ON ITS NEW ROADS. IT'S NOT RECONSTRUCTION OF OLD ROADS, WHERE AM I? THERE'S SOME SORT OF CONNECTION, I THINK. I THINK WE CAN USE IT FOR ONE OF THESE FEES FOR NEW PROJECTS IMPACTING ROADS. SO THESE FUNDS CAN ONLY BE USED ON CAPACITY ADDING PROJECTS. RIGHT. 
          SO, SO YOU CAN'T RIP UP A TWO LANE ROAD AND PUT DOWN A TWO LANE, BUT YOU COULD RIP UP A TWO LANE ROAD AND PUT DOWN A FOUR LANE ROAD. OKAY, OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO MARRY OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. YEAH. QUICKLY HOLD MY HAND ON THIS, PLEASE. SERVICE AREA A, THE SECOND ONE LISTED IS A STRIP RETAIL PLAZA. LOOKING AT IT, I FEEL LIKE AFTER THE TOTAL, WHEN WE GO INTO THE SCENARIOS TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, THEY ALL GO DOWN EXCEPT FOR THE SECOND ONE. STRIP RETAIL PLAZA. AFTER SCENARIO TWO, THE REST GO UP SIGNIFICANTLY. AND SO I'M WONDERING HOW THAT MATH WORKS. 
          WHAT I'M MISSING OKAY, SO YOU WERE COMPARING SCENARIO THREE FOUR AND 5 OR 2, THREE, FOUR AND FIVE. I MEAN BASICALLY ALL OF IT, IT GOES FROM THE TOTAL ON. SCENARIO ONE IS 128,000 PLUS. 
          SCENARIO TWO IS ONLY 45,000. AND SCENARIO THREE JUMPS UP TO 226. BUT LIKE WHEN I COMPARE TO THE OTHER ONES, LIKE UP ABOVE IT, THAT ONE GOES FROM, YOU KNOW, 31,000 AND CHANGE ON SCENARIO 1 TO 3000 ON TWO AND 15,000 ON THREE, WHICH IS STILL HALF OF THAT TOTAL. SO I'M WONDERING HOW WE GET THAT FORMULA IS SO I THINK WE'RE EXPECTING THEM ALL TO BE LINEAR RIGHT. YEAH. BUT THE RIFF IS LINEAR BUT THE RAP IS NOT. SO THE RAP BEFORE DEPENDENT HEAVILY ON YOUR LOCATION. SO THAT IS WHAT THAT DISCREPANCY IS COMING FROM. I THINK IN SCENARIO TWO, ALL OF THOSE ONES IN BLUE ARE PAYING A 10% RIFF, RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GETTING REACHES THE TOP LINE. THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GETTING 3000. AND THEN SCENARIO THREE IS PAYING 50% OF THE MAX FEE. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S GOING TO MULTIPLY BY FIVE. SO WE'VE GOT 3000. THAT GOES TO 15,000. BUT SCENARIO SORRY. THE THIRD ONE LISTED THE CONVENIENCE STORE GAS STATION. IT'S GOT 98,000 ON THE RAP. AND IT STILL GOES DOWN TO ABOUT HALF THAT ON SCENARIO THREE. YEAH, RAP IS NOT IN SCENARIO TWO, THREE, 4 OR 5. IT'S JUST RIFF, RIGHT? BUT THE EXPLANATION A MINUTE AGO WAS BECAUSE OF THE RAP BEING CALCULATED DIFFERENTLY. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW HOW DO WE KNOW WHICH ONES ARE GOING UP AND WHICH ONES ARE GOING DOWN, BECAUSE I'M NOT SEEING A CORRELATION. RAP IS TIED TO THE ROAD ITSELF AND HOW YOU HAVE TO EXPAND THE ROAD. AND SO THESE WILL BE VERY SITE SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, IS THAT ROAD NEED A FULL LANE? DOES THE ROAD NEED A LANE AND A HALF. SO IT ENDS UP BEING VERY SITE SPECIFIC TO THE WIDTH OR THE IT'S FOR THE ACTUAL ROAD FRONTAGE. SO THE ACTUAL FRONTAGE OF THE OF THE PROJECT MAY BE VERY SMALL ON ONE, BUT BE VERY LONG ON THE OTHER. SO IT'S VERY LIKE IT'S VERY SITE SPECIFIC. I DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE REAL PROJECTS, BUT I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT EACH ONE OF THEM. BUT IT IS BASED ON A $38 PER SQUARE FOOT CONSTRUCTION COST, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH CONSTRUCTION YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO. SO I THINK THE CHARTER SCHOOL ON AREA B IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT 
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YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW TRAFFIC, HOW THE ADEQUACY OF THE ROAD ACTUALLY IMPACTS WHAT THE COST IS, BECAUSE BASICALLY UNDER THING. 347 BUT WHEN WE DO THE OTHER ROUTE WITH RIFF, ONLY WE HAVE THE HIGHEST YOU EVER GET IS TO 173. AND BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED NON RESIDENTIAL. 
          YEAH. AND SO WE WILL SAY WE ARE KIND OF MISSING A VARIABLE WITH THE SITE LOCATION. IT WOULD JUST BE TOO MUCH INFORMATION TO SHOW ALL IN ONE GRAPH. BUT THAT IS THE MISSING PIECE THAT MAYBE CONSTANT DISCONNECT. YEAH. YOU KNOW EARLIER ANDREW TOUCHED ON THE FACT THAT HE WANTED MEANS ACROSS THESE. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, THREE THINGS ACROSS ALL THE DIFFERENT SERVICE AREAS THAT ARE EXACTLY THE SAME. SO A COFFEE SHOP, STRIP, RETAIL, CONVENIENCE STORE. BUT FOR THAT SCENARIO TO WE HAVE THAT IN A SLIDE LIKE A SLIDE HERE THAT SHOWS GRAPHS. IT'S JUST GENERAL INFORMATION LIKE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL. 
          AND SO I THINK WHEN WE GET TO THAT WE CAN SHOW YOU THAT. AND I THINK IT'LL SHOW. OKAY. MY APOLOGIES I'VE JUMPED AHEAD. NO NO NO THAT'S ALL RIGHT I JUST I THINK WE'VE GOT YOU. IT'S ALL IT'S ALL IT'S ALL INTERTWINED. I MIGHT SKIP TO THE AVERAGE. JUST JUST TO SAY THE POINT OF WHY WE'RE SUGGESTING THESE DIFFERENCES. SO THE SCENARIO ONE IS WHAT WAS ACTUALLY COLLECTED, I BELIEVE. YEAH. JUST MAKING SURE THAT'S CONFIRMED. AND THEN SCENARIOS THREE, FOUR AND FIVE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MATCH THE SAME AMOUNT THAT WAS COLLECTED. SO BY THIS NEW POLICY TO REMOVE THE ROADWAY ADEQUACY PAYMENT WE'RE NOT LOSING MONEY. I DON'T KNOW THAT THE GOAL WAS TO MATCH. I THINK IT WAS TO RIGHTSIZE IT AND MAKE IT SIMPLE AND FAIR, BECAUSE WE WERE SEEING BUSINESSES BEING ASSESSED FOR THESE HUGE AMOUNTS THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. SPENDING $60,000 ON ROADWAY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. THEIR FOOTPRINT IS THIS BIG. I THINK THAT WAS OUR PROBLEM. IT WASN'T THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO COLLECT EVERY DOLLAR, BUT JUST PUT IT INTO ONE BUCKET. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT DOES MAKE SENSE OKAY. SO IN THAT EXAMPLE IF WE DIDN'T CHANGE THE COLLECTION RATE THAT IS SCENARIO TWO WHICH IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING. RIGHT. SO IN THE PAST SINCE WE STARTED COLLECTING IN 2024 COLLECTED $11 MILLION IF THEY ONLY HAD ONE PAYMENT THAT ENTIRE TIME. BUT THE COLLECTION RATE STAYED AT 50 AND TEN WERE COLLECTED ABOUT HALF THAT AMOUNT. I DO HAVE IT ON ONE OF THE SLIDES, BUT WE HAVE THE TOTAL COST OF THE CIP. MAYBE IT WAS ON YOUR SLIDE WHERE IT SAID, YEAH, IT'S LIKE OVER 300 MILLION. 
          YEAH, IT'S OVER 300 MILLION OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS. RIGHT. WELL THAT'S THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE STUDY DONE IN 2022. BASICALLY TAKES THE ROAD TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN AND SAYS, WHAT DO WHAT DO YOU NEED TO DO IN TEN YEARS? AND KIND OF PULLS ALL THOSE PROJECTS OUT INTO A ROADWAY IMPACT FEE STUDY THAT THEN THEY DO THE ASSESSING OF THE VALUES WITH. ALSO, I THINK YOU ALSO INCLUDE THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE PAYING AS WELL. AND BUT THE WHOLE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S NEEDED FOR TEN YEARS OF TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS IS $320 MILLION JUST TO FACILITATE THE GROWTH. SO THAT'S NOT CONSIDERING MAINTENANCE PROJECTS OR PUTTING BACK LANE LIKE WHEN YOU BUILD, WHEN YOU GO FROM THE TWO LANES TO THE FOUR LANES, YOU ONLY GET CREDIT FOR THE TWO NEW LANES. SO ONLY THE DOLLARS FOR THOSE PROJECTS. YEAH. AND THAT'S BASED ON CURRENT PROJECTIONS OF GROWTH. CORRECT. SO OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS IS WHAT THE STUDY IS KIND OF CAPPED AT. SO YOU UPDATE EVERY FIVE YEARS. AND THAT'S ALSO. THAT'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT OF THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES IS THAT YOU HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY IN TEN YEARS. SO IF YOU COLLECTED IT YOU GOT TO SPEND IT. BUT BY BEING ABLE TO SPEND IT PER SERVICE AREA, THAT GIVES US MORE FLEXIBILITY TO SPEND IT, YOU KNOW, ON PROJECTS IN SERVICE AREAS. BEFORE WE WERE RESTRICTED TO IF WE'RE COLLECTING ROADWAY ADEQUACY PAYMENT, WE HAD TO SPEND IT ON THAT ROAD. THAT WAS WE WERE TAKING THE PAYMENT ON AND WE COULDN'T SPEND IT IN LIKE A GENERAL AREA. WE HAD TO SPEND IT ON THAT ROAD THAT WAS ADJACENT. AND THE POINT OF THAT WAS TO TRY TO MAKE SOME PROJECTS CONTINUOUS AND NOT PIECEMEAL THINGS. YEAH, EXACTLY. SO YOU HAVE A MEANINGFUL PROJECT AS OPPOSED TO LIKE A LITTLE PIECEMEAL ONE. SO THE RIFF ONLY THIS IS WE'LL STILL HAVE THE 
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WRAP. NO. WE WERE WE'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE THE WRAP. WE WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD GET AWAY FROM THE WRAP AND ONLY REALLY TAKE ONLY REALLY REQUIRE CONSTRUCTION FOR SUBSTANDARD ROADS THERE. THERE WOULD BE A POTENTIAL OCCASIONALLY FOR WANTING TO TAKE A ROUTE. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAD TWO PROJECTS ON ONE SUBSTANDARD ROAD AND ONE PROJECT WANTED, OR ONE PROJECT WANTED TO DO THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION, AND THE OTHER PROJECT JUST WANTED TO PAY THAT PERSON SO THAT THEY DO THE ROAD TOGETHER. SO THAT WOULD BE I DON'T WANT TO GET RID OF PAYMENT TOTALLY, BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE THAT SITUATION WHERE ONE DEVELOPER WILL WANT TO PAY THE OTHER TO DEVELOP OR PAY THE CITY, THAT THEN WILL PAY THE DEVELOPER OR, YOU KNOW, VICE VERSA TO DO A MEANINGFUL PROJECT INSTEAD OF LIKE ONE GUY COMING IN AND BUILDING HIS HALF OF THE ROAD AND THE OTHER GUY BUILDING HIS HALF OF THE ROAD AND TRYING TO MAKE IT COORDINATE. SO HOW MANY ROADS ARE SUBSTANDARD WHERE WE HAVE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO COME BEFORE US IN THE FUTURE? LIKE ARE WE SAYING MOST OF THEM LIKE A MAJORITY OF THEM, SUBSTANDARD, SUBSTANDARD ROADS THAT WILL HAVE A WRAP FOR THEM TO JOIN THEM TO A, TO A, TO A STANDARD ROAD? COUNTY ROADS ARE SUBSTANDARD, SO ANY COUNTY ROAD THAT'S IN THE CITY IS SUBSTANDARD. THERE ARE SOME OTHER ROADS THAT DON'T HAVE CURB AND GUTTER THAT AREN'T LIKE BUILT TO URBAN STANDARDS THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER SUBSTANDARD AS WELL. BUT I DON'T KNOW RIGHT OFFHAND HOW MANY OF THOSE ROADS THERE ARE THAT'S THERE. I THINK THE INTENT OF THAT IS TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER BUILD THOSE ROADS THINKING ABOUT, I MEAN, LARGELY YOU THINK OF THOSE COUNTY ROAD DEVELOPMENTS. IT'S FOR LARGE SINGLE FAMILY OR THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE THEY'LL NEED TO BUILD IT FOR THEIR SITE TO WORK UP TO THE NEXT ROADWAY, BASICALLY. OKAY. YOU WANT TO CONTINUE ON? YES. SORRY. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY. JUST SOMETHING THAT WE TOUCHED ON LAST TIME WE SPOKE WAS HOW MUCH POTENTIAL FOR RAF DO WE HAVE IN THE FUTURE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO WE KIND OF LOOKED AT THE TRACKS SHOWN HERE, AND THEN WE DID A CALCULATION FOR THOSE. WE'RE USING THE SAME SCENARIOS HERE. AGAIN, SCENARIO ONE AND TWO ARE THE SAME HERE, BUT BASICALLY JUST BASED ON COLLECTION RATE, HOW MUCH MONEY WE WOULD GET FROM THE REMAINING RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ONLY. SO JUST FOR EXAMPLE, UNDER SCENARIO ONE, IF EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE AVAILABLE RESIDENTIAL LOTS BUILT OUT AS RESIDENTIAL THAT'S CURRENTLY VACANT, THE CITY WOULD GET $60 MILLION. SO HOW DO WE KNOW WHICH SCENARIO MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I MEAN, IT JUST I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO FUND. 
          LIKE HERE'S $338 MILLION OF. SO LET ME SAY A DIFFERENT WAY. WHAT MADE YOU CHOOSE THESE NUMBERS AS THE SCENARIOS? I CAN FLIP BACK TO IT AND TRY TO TOUCH ON A LITTLE BIT MORE. WHENEVER WE WERE MAKING THESE, WE WERE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE CITY IS CURRENTLY RECEIVING FOR THESE PROJECTS. DO WE BELIEVE THAT THAT IS THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY? BECAUSE THAT WASN'T THE DIRECTIVE FROM US. SO I NEED TO KNOW IF STAFF FEELS LIKE WE WERE COLLECTING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY. IT JUST WASN'T THE RIGHT MECHANISM. LIKE, HOW DID WE GET TO TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY? I MEAN, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO COLLECT THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY. I MEAN, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE NEED TO DO THE PROJECT. SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF IS THERE A PREFERRED FORMULA OR KIND OF A STANDARD? CITIES COLLECT TWO THIRDS OR. WELL, WE CAN GO TO THAT. THOSE SLIDES WITH THE DIFFERENT CITIES. AND YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE DIFFERENT COLLECTION RATES. THAT'S CERTAINLY PART OF THE DISCUSSION. I MEAN THE REAL QUESTION IS WHO DO YOU WANT TO BUILD THESE ROADS? DO YOU WANT THE CURRENT RESIDENTS PAYING TAXES TO BUILD THESE ROADS, OR DO YOU WANT THE GROWTH TO BUILD THESE ROADS? AND THAT'S HOW YOU SWING THOSE PERCENTAGES. AND THEN WITHIN THOSE, DO YOU WANT THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO BUILD THE ROADS OR DO YOU WANT THE NONRESIDENTIAL. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE DIFFERENT I THINK WE DEFINITELY WANT THE RESIDENTIAL TO BUILD THE ROADS, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE A POLICY THAT'S A DETRIMENT TO THE COMMERCIAL GROWTH THAT WE NEED, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE GROWING PROPERLY WITHOUT THAT. SO THESE ARE COMPARISON CHARTS. THIS IS LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY. THIS IS THE DIFFERENT SERVICE AREAS A THROUGH E. AND THEN THIS COMPARES YOU KNOW THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE DOING RIFF AND HOW MUCH THEY'RE COLLECTING THE DARKER COLOR AT THE BOTTOM IS THEIR COLLECTION RATE. THE 
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LIGHTER COLOR AT THE TOP IS THEIR MAXIMUM ASSESSED VALUE. SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE FALL IN RELATION TO COLLECTION RATES FOR EACH. AND THEN WE HAVE IT FOR SINGLE FAMILY. WE HAVE IT FOR INDUSTRIAL. WE HAVE IT FOR GENERAL OFFICE, SHOPPING CENTER. AND THEN THAT'S IT. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE COLLECTION RATE FOR SPECIFIC USES, I THINK WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN EVEN MORE HELPFUL WAS TO SEE WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE DOING THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT TO US. AND IF THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO LIKE CLEARLY STATED THAT THAT IS THE THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. WELL, BECAUSE CEDAR PARK ISN'T THERE. IT'S NOT LISTED. WELL, CEDAR PARK DOESN'T DO IT. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LISTED WHO AREN'T DOING IT. THAT'S CORRECT. YES. IT'S NOT DOING IT. THAT'S CORRECT. AND WHATEVER MECHANISM THEY'RE USING FOR THEIR ROADWAYS, THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE HELPFUL THAN I MEAN, I USED TO WORK AT CEDAR PARK AND THEY DO BONDS. 
          THEY DO GEO AND CO BONDS FOR THEIR CONSTRUCTION. AND THEY THEIR ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE I THINK IS THEY'VE GOT NEWER ROADS I THINK TOO, THEY DON'T HAVE AS MANY COUNTY ROADS. SO THEY DON'T HAVE AS MUCH ISSUES WITH THE TRANSPORTATION. I GUESS MY ISSUE IS IF IT'S NOT PRESENTED IN YOUR PRESENTATION, HOW WOULD I KNOW THAT INFORMATION? OKAY. ARE YOU SAYING THAT THEY DON'T COLLECT MONEY FROM DEVELOPERS TO PAY FOR ROADS, EXCEPT FOR WHAT'S IN A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS? OKAY, THEY PROBABLY HAVE A SLIGHTLY MORE AGGRESSIVE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS POLICY JUST TO MAKE SURE TO GET MORE MONEY OUT OF THAT. OKAY, A LITTLE BIT MORE BURDEN ON STAFF AS WELL. OTHERS THAT CURRENTLY ARE DOING THEM THAT ARE NEARBY JUST TO TOUCH ON THEM. IT IT WAS JUST THE INFORMATION THAT WE PULLED. THAT'S A GOOD CRITICISM. THE LIBERTY HILLS CURRENTLY DEVELOPING THEM SO THEY DON'T HAVE THEM RIGHT NOW. GEORGETOWN DOES AND IS SHOWN TRYING TO THINK OF MORE DIRECTLY ADJACENT ONES. PLACES LIKE LAKEWAY DO NOT HAVE THEM CURRENTLY. CITY OF AUSTIN DOES HAVE THEM. IT'S NOT SHOWN HERE. WE THOUGHT SUBURBAN MIGHT BE A BETTER COMPARISON. 
          GOING SOUTH. TAYLOR'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPING THEM. NEW BRAUNFELS HAS HAD THEM FOR A VERY LONG TIME IN CHURCHES 100%. ARE THERE ANY ARE THERE ANY CITIES NORTH TEXAS THAT WOULD REFLECT THE TYPE OF GROWTH THAT WE'VE SEEN HERE IN LEANDER AND THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA? THERE'S A SIMILAR PATTERN DEVELOPING IN LIKE PRINCETON, FOR INSTANCE. RIGHT. SOME OF THE OUT OUT OUTER SUBURBAN AREAS AROUND DALLAS. DO YOU HAVE ANY EXAMPLES THERE THAT YOU COULD AMEND THIS WITH SO THAT THERE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPARATIVE GROWTH WISE? RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT WE DISCUSSED IT A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW, HUTTO IS THE BEST EXAMPLE AGAINST WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING HERE. JUST FROM A OVERALL INFRASTRUCTURE NEED AND DEVELOPMENT NEED AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WHERE ROUND ROCK, PFLUGERVILLE, GEORGETOWN, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE DEVELOPED. THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ALONG IN THE PROCESS. RIGHT. SO I THINK FOR US, A COMPARATIVE THAT WOULD BE EVEN IF IT'S HISTORICAL, BUT IT SHOWS THE TREND AND WHAT WAS WHAT WAS DONE TO HELP MANAGE THE FUNDING MECHANISMS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT OVER TIME WOULD BE HELPFUL. IS THAT EVEN PLAUSIBLE? NO. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SCENARIO. 
          SO UP IN DFW, IN DFW, WHICH IS WHICH IS GOOD FOR WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING ACTUALLY. SO UP IN DFW, THEY'VE HAD THESE FOR A LONG TIME. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOW CHARGING 100% OF THE MAX. RIGHT. SO THEY'RE A LOT FURTHER ALONG IN THEIR POLICY THAN IN CENTRAL TEXAS, WHICH THERE ARE SOME OLDER ONES IN CENTRAL TEXAS. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S BEEN THE BEST 5 OR 10 YEARS FOR EVERYONE IN CENTRAL TEXAS. RIGHT. AND SO, AGAIN, JUST FROM A COMPARATIVE PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT. JUST BECAUSE THIS IS GOOD, THIS VISUAL IS VERY GOOD FOR ME. AND I MEAN, I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS RIGHT AWAY JUST BASED ON THAT AND THE AND THE PREVIOUS QUESTION ON THE MEAN. RIGHT. IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WHERE ARE WE IN COMPARISON? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? AND THEN TO ECHO THE MAYOR'S COMMENT ABOUT IS THIS SUFFICIENT? THAT'S THE NEXT QUESTION. LIKE, IS THIS A PROJECTION THAT IS SUFFICIENT TO WHAT IT IS THAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED? DO WE HAVE A EXAMPLE? HERE'S BEST CASE SCENARIO. HERE'S WORST CASE SCENARIO. IF WE DON'T DO THESE THINGS, WHAT WOULD WE BE STRUGGLING WITH? I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE CONVERSATION. AND I DON'T MEAN SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS. THIS IS VERY GOOD BY THE WAY. YOU KNOW, KUDOS I LIKE THIS. I JUST THINK THAT I KNOW THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING UPCOMING HERE, AND IT'LL BE HELPFUL FOR US TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF SOME OF THOSE COMPONENTS. EXCUSE ME, SO THAT WE CAN GO INTO THOSE PROCESSES A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMED. I'M SORRY, CAN YOU 
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EXPLAIN TO ME ON THE CHARTS AGAIN, THE LIGHTER COLOR, NEW COLLECTION FEE ON ALL OF THE EXISTING CITIES? WHAT IS THE NEW COLLECTION FEE AGAIN? HOW DO I WAS JUST IN THE MIDDLE OF AN UPDATE. SO WHENEVER WE PUT THESE SLIDES TOGETHER, THEY HAD ONE COLLECTION RATE AND IT ESCALATED, I THINK VERY RECENTLY. SORRY. ON MY PRINTOUT I'M SEEING IT DIFFERENT. I THOUGHT THE WHOLE BAR UP WAS NEW COLLECTION. OH NO NO. GOT IT. NOW SECOND. SO I THINK THE ONLY ONE IN THAT SITUATION RIGHT NOW THESE ARE PRETTY FINAL FOR EVERYONE IS IN THE NEW ONE AT TWO DAY. THEY'RE IN THE NEW ONE. THANK YOU. SO SINCE WE JUST STARTED THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO RIGHT. AND I THINK YOU MADE THE COMMENT, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, BUT THAT THEY WERE FURTHER ALONG IN THIS POLICY PROCESS. SO DO YOU FEEL IN YOUR EXPERIENCE THAT PART OF WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH IS SOME OF THE GROWING PAINS OF STARTING TO CHARGE THESE FEES? SO WE'RE GETTING PUSHBACK, AND WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE LONGER TERM IMPACT. SO THAT MUCH MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN ME, THAT IS KIND OF WHAT I WAS GETTING AT WITH THE SHELL CONVERSATION. I THINK PEOPLE WHO REDEVELOP AREN'T USED TO THIS BEING A FEE, AND THEN IN FIVE YEARS THEY WILL BE MORE USED TO THIS FEE, SAME WAY AS WHEN SOMEONE'S DEVELOPING AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THEY'VE BEEN GOING SLOW, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY HAVE TO PAY ONE OF THESE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN GOING SLOW. THEY DIDN'T EXPECT IT BECAUSE THE POLICY WAS SO NEW. I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THAT GOING ON. SO ON THOSE PEER CITIES THAT ARE COLLECTING IT, HAVE WE REACHED OUT AT ALL TO SEE IF THEY'RE HAVING ISSUES AS WELL? I REACH OUT TO THEM SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SHELL CONVERSATION. I DID ROUND ROCK, SO ME PERSONALLY, I DID THE ROUND ROCK 1 IN 2023. I'M WORKING ON THE PFLUGERVILLE ONE RIGHT NOW. I KNEW IT WAS A COMP. 
          I DIDN'T DO THAT ONE, BUT I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IT. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO DOING GEORGETOWN'S RIGHT NOW, SO THERE'S LOTS OF EVERYONE IS YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME ISSUES GROWING PAINS WITH ALL OF THESE. I'M SORRY. WAS THERE A SPECIFIC ONE? NO. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THE SAME COMPLAINTS ARE COMING UP EVERYWHERE. THE SETTING, THE COLLECTION RADIUS IS EXACTLY YOUR QUESTION. SAYING THE COLLECTION RATE IS, LIKE, THE MOST IMPORTANT. LIKE, THAT'S THE MOST DELIBERATION WE DO IN ALL THE CITIES. SO IT'S A VERY NORMAL THING. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, DOING OR NOT DOING. WHEN I TALK TO ROUND ROCK, PFLUGERVILLE AND GEORGETOWN, PFLUGERVILLE AND GEORGETOWN SAID THE SHELL THING HADN'T COME UP VERY MUCH. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS. I KNOW ROUND ROCK. IT'S A PRETTY BIG PROBLEM FOR THEM, I THINK. AND WHEN THEY DESCRIBE PROBLEM, IT'S MORE IT'S TAKING A LOT OF STAFF TIME. IT'S LIKE 10% OF DEVELOPMENT. IT'S TAKING UP 90% OF THEIR TIME WITH THIS POLICY. AND IT WAS STAFF TIME. IS THAT WHAT THEY WERE DESCRIBING HERE? I'VE NOT TALKED TO HUTTO ABOUT THIS. THEIR POLICY IS RELATIVELY NEW. THEY'RE SIMILAR TO Y'ALL ON THE TIMELINE OF THEIR POLICY. THEY'VE DONE TWO STUDIES THEY REALLY WEREN'T COLLECTING ON THEIR FIRST STUDY, AND NOW THEY ARE COLLECTING ON THIS ONE. WHEN I'VE TALKED TO OTHER CITIES, THE RIFT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE AS MUCH OF AN ISSUE AS MUCH AS HOW YOU DEAL WITH SUBSTANDARD ROADS AND HOW YOU DEAL WITH ROADWAY ADEQUACY. THAT SEEMS TO BE THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE FOR OTHER CITIES IS HOW HOW YOU DEAL WITH THAT AND HOW YOU GET THOSE THAT CONSTRUCTION DONE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT. SO YOU'RE NOT PUTTING A NEW DEVELOPMENT ON A SUBSTANDARD ROAD. THAT'S BEEN KIND OF MY EXPERIENCE WHEN I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE, RIGHT? BUILDING A NEW ROAD. WHEREAS THESE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES AREN'T TO THAT SCALE QUITE SO. DO YOU SEE PEOPLE NOT WANTING TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY? AND THEY'RE BASICALLY SAYING, I'D RATHER BUILD SOMETHING OUT IN THE COUNTY AND, AND HAVE A SUBSTANDARD ROAD. WOULD THAT BE A PART OF A REACTION TO THIS? WOULD IT ALSO DRIVE UP THE COST OF HOMES, SLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF HOMES? BECAUSE I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO BUILD MY HOUSE OUT HERE, AND I HAVE TO BUILD THAT, THAT SUBSTANDARD ALL THE WAY TO THE MAIN ROAD. I'LL WAIT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TO KIND OF WORK OUT TO GET TO ME, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE DROPPING ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND THEN WE'RE HAVING TO CONNECT THEM IN, CONNECT THEM IN WITH ALL OUR SEWER, CONNECT THEM IN WITH EVERYTHING. BUT THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, WE HAVE PEOPLE JUST SAYING, I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THIS AND NOT ANNEXING IT OR ANNEXING OR WHATEVER. THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY DO AND CREATE A MUD. SO MUD. RIGHT. AND THEN CHARGE IT TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT THAT LIVE THERE. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH ABOUT THE ON THE ON THE WRAP. SO THE WRAP ISN'T GOING AWAY. IT BECOMES A SUBSTANDARD PART AND WE'RE COLLECTING THE FEE. SO IF WE WERE TO WANTED TO COLLECT THE SAME FEE AS THEM COMBINED, WE KNOW THAT THE WRAP IS GOING TO ACTUALLY DROP BECAUSE NOW IT'S JUST A SUBSTANDARD PART ON THE ROAD. AND SO DO WE EXPECT THAT TO DROP BY 50%, 60%, 80%, PROBABLY CLOSER TO 80%. RIGHT. 
          SO THEN WE ACTUALLY NEED TO MAKE UP ALMOST ALL OF IT. ON IF YOU WANT TO COLLECT IT A SIMILAR RATE. YEAH. AT AT THE RIP. BUT WE'RE REALLY WE ACTUALLY NEED TO GET IN LINE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS 
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BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THIS FOR THE REASON THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT DOES A LOT OF THINGS. 
          SO IT SLOWS IT DOWN. IT'S MORE THOUGHTFUL, BUT IT IS GOING TO DRIVE UP THE COST OF HOUSES, YOU KNOW, IT'LL SLOW DOWN THE DEVELOPMENT. IT'LL SLOW DOWN ALL THAT. AND IS THAT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO KIND OF DISCUSS AS A COUNCIL, IF THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO SEE OR DO WE WANT TO LET EVERYBODY JUST COME IN AND KEEP BUILDING, BUILDING, BUILDING. YEAH. JUST AN EXAMPLE, A LITTLE BIT OF EXTREME EXAMPLE. BUT IF YOU BUILD A HOUSE IN ROUND ROCK AND SERVICE AREA, A ONE HOUSE, YOU PAY $10,000, WHEREAS IN LEANDER THE HOUSE YOU PAY IS $4,000. AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT MAYBE A BETTER COMP, THEY PAY $5,000 ACROSS THE BOARD FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOME. 
          THEY RUN THAT AVERAGE. ACTUALLY, NOW THAT I'M REALIZING THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING. YEAH. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THEY, THEY TOOK, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE ONE OF THE SERVICE AREAS. AND SO THEY DID THEY HAVE A MEAN THAT THEY'RE USING AS THE FEE. RIGHT. IN THAT SAME VEIN. BECAUSE THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO THIS. RIGHT? THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT. IN THE SAME VEIN, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES AND WE'LL USE ROUND ROCK AS THE COMPARATIVE, I CAN'T SEE THAT FROM HERE. BUT THE HIGHEST FEE IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL GAP BETWEEN WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY COLLECTING AND THE HIGHEST FEE. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, AND THIS IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBJECTIVE, ARE THEY USING THE HIGHER FEES AND NEGOTIATING THE LOWER FEE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. THAT DOES. SO YOU CAN KIND OF THINK OF THE BAR THAT THE DARKENED BAR. SO WHAT THEY'RE COLLECTING THEY'RE COLLECTING. THAT'S KIND OF YOUR FLOOR. AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOUR SITE NEEDS SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, A TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR ADJACENT TURN LANES OFF SITE, THEY CAN CHARGE UP TO THAT MAX FEE FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. SORT OF TRY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ALSO RIGHT AWAY. DEDICATION AND RIGHT OF WAY. DEDICATION AS WELL. RIGHT. BUT WOULD THERE BE ANY KIND OF, I GUESS, JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE NEGOTIATION TACTIC THERE IN THAT? LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. AN ELEVATED FEE IS INITIALLY QUOTED TO GET WHAT IT IS THAT THEY WANT. THEY DISCOUNT THAT FEE TO GET THE NEGOTIATION. YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY NEED IS THAT IS THAT EVEN A THING THAT PEOPLE DO? I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION. THAT'S A SALES TACTIC. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TRICKY QUESTION, BECAUSE SOME CITIES SORT OF USE TIAS TO DO WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING. I MEAN, THEY'LL HAVE REALLY STRINGENT TIAS THAT TAKE A LOT OF STAFF TIME TO HANDLE AND A LOT OF NEGOTIATIONS. THEY SAY THAT $18,000 PER INDUSTRIAL UNIT HERE, LIKE THAT'S WHAT I CAN GET. SO LET'S NEGOTIATE UP TO THAT USING THE TIA. BUT IT IT'S A LOT OF STAFF TIME OKAY. AND ON THE STAFF TIME QUESTION JUST THIS WILL BE MY FINAL QUESTION FOR THE MOMENT. YOU MENTIONED AUTOMATING SOME OF THIS PROCESS. AND THEN LATER YOU MENTIONED AN ADDITIONAL STAFF TIME. IS THERE ANY THOUGHT TO THE WAY THAT YOU AUTOMATE THE PROCESS IN KIND, REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME THAT WOULD TAKE TO DO THESE TYPES OF THINGS, OR IS THAT EVEN A THOUGHT YET? HOW FAR COULD YOU AUTOMATE THIS TO REDUCE THE STAFF TIME? SO I'M GOING TO JUMP IN BECAUSE THAT'S OFF TOPIC BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FEES. BUT THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT CAN GO ON LATER. I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I DON'T THINK WE ARE FULLY GETTING IT. I THINK WE NEED MAYBE MORE OF MORE OF THE TRANSPORTATION WORKSHOP THAT WE HAVE COMING UP WHERE WE CAN DEEP DIVE INTO THINGS AND SORT OF WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN. IT'S 6:54 P.M. WE BACK AT SEVEN FOR A MEETING AND WE'LL FIGURE THIS OUT ANOTHER DAY. BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. YEAH, IT'S VERY COMPLICATED. I UNDERSTAND IT'S HARD TO GET YOUR ARMS AROUN GOOD EVENING. TODAY IS TUESDAY, 
          [4. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.]
JUNE 17TH, 2025, AND THE TIME IS 7:04 P.M. AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL MISSIONS MISSIONARY, PRISCILLA AMES OF GREAT SAINT JOHN'S COGIC WILL BE PROVIDING THE INVOCATION. FOLLOWING THE INVOCATION, PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING WITH GRATEFUL HEARTS. WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER TODAY TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY. 
          WE ASK YOU, LORD, TO BLESS THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS EVENING AS THEY DISCUSS THE MATTERS BEFORE THEM. KEEP THEM DILIGENT, LORD, AND KEEP THEM IN THEIR MIND. WHAT IS FOR JUSTICE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS? WE ASK YOU TO PLEASE BLESS THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ALL CITY STAFF, THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND THEIR FAMILIES. WE ALSO ASK YOU TO PLEASE BLESS THE CITY OF LEANDER RESIDENTS, AND WE JUST ASK YOU, LORD, TO ALSO KEEP US MINDFUL OF THOSE IN NEED. WE ASK ALL OF THESE THINGS AND WE ALSO ASK YOU, PLEASE, LORD, THIS EVENING, AS WE TAKE A MOMENT TO REFLECT 
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OF THOSE THAT HAVE SUFFERED TRAGEDY AT THE SENATE LEVEL. BLESS THOSE FAMILIES AND WE ASK YOU TO JUST HAVE YOUR PEACE UPON US FOR COMMUNITY UNITY. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE. SAME UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. AMEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. ITEM 
          [5. Roll Call.]
NUMBER FIVE, CITY SECRETARY CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER STEVEN CHANG, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER MICHAEL HERRERA HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONNELL HERE. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM NICOLE THOMPSON, PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW NODDING. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER BECKY ROSS HERE. MAYOR CHRISTINE DELLA HERE. QUORUM IS PRESENT IN THE CITY. COUNCIL IS ELIGIBLE TO 
          [6. Public comments on items not listed in the agenda.
Public comments on items listed in the agenda will be heard at the time each item is discussed.
[All comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual.]]
DO BUSINESS. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX. NON AGENDA ITEM. PUBLIC COMMENTS. FOR ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA, I WILL CALL ON SPEAKERS PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE AGENDA ITEM AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT PUBLIC COMMENTS IS A TIME FOR YOU TO TALK TO US, BUT IS NOT A TIME THAT WE CAN SPEAK BACK AND HAVE A DIALOG WITH THAT. I HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP, CATHY BERNARDI. GOOD EVENING, MISS BERNARDI. PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. CATHY BERNARDI 1412 VALENTE LANE HERE IN LEANDER. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER. I SEE THERE IS AN UPDATE TONIGHT FROM THE ENGINEER ON THE SENIOR CENTER PROJECT. A YEAR AGO, ON MAY 29TH, WE BROKE GROUND. THE DCRC CONSTRUCTION GROUP CONTRACTORS SAID IT WOULD TAKE 235 DAYS, PLUS OR MINUS TO COMPLETE. AND MY SPEECH, I SAID WE WOULD GIVE THEM UNTIL JUNE. IT HAS NOW BEEN 383 DAYS WITH NO WEATHER DELAYS THIS PAST WINTER. THE SENIOR CENTER IS NOW NOWHERE CLOSE TO BEING COMPLETED. I DROVE BY LAST WEEK. THE STONEWORK DOES LOOK NICE ALONG WITH THE BIG WINDOWS FACING MUNICIPAL. I DON'T HAVE A HARD HAT SO I CAN'T GO INSIDE. THE PROJECTED MONTH OF COMPLETION IS NOW SEPTEMBER, AND AS I TOLD THE PARKS AND REC RECREATION BOARD, I HOPE IT'S BY DECEMBER. THEN SANTA CAN LEAD THE PARADE AND CUT THE RIBBON. THE PROJECT, BY THE WAY, IS NOT ON THE DCRC CONSTRUCTION GROUP WEBSITE, WHICH I FOUND KIND OF STRANGE. AND THEN I WANT TO ASK, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF MEALS ON WHEELS IN THE CENTER? SINCE THE APRIL 25TH OPEN FORUM MEETING AT THE LEANDER ACTIVITY CENTER, WE HAVE NOT HEARD AN UPDATE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THERE'S NOBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. IS 
          [7. Leander History]
THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA? ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM SEVEN. LEANDER HISTORY WITH OUR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMISSION VICE CHAIR HOWELL. GOOD EVENING, MISS HOWELL. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. ALL RIGHT. I DID SOMETHING UNUSUAL TODAY. I ACTUALLY GOT OUT SOME OF MY MOTHER'S RESEARCH, AND I WANT TO SHOW YOU ALL THIS. MY MOTHER DID 56 HISTORICAL MARKERS, AND THIS IS ONE FOLDER FOR ONE MARKER. THIS. 
          SHE ALSO WROTE SEVEN BOOKS, SO YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW MANY FOLDERS HER BOOKS HAVE. AND SHE ALSO WROTE UNTOLD PRESENTATIONS, BLAH BLAH BLAH. SO ME GOING AND DIGGING OUT HISTORY, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT. OKAY. SO TODAY, THANK YOU TO OUR NEW CITY MANAGER THAT WE WITH A REQUEST, I AM GOING TO DO A LITTLE BIT ON THE HISTORY OF LEANDER ISD, LEANDER ISD. THIS IS THE CURRENT MAP. AND YOU WILL NOTICE IT'S IT IS SPLIT ALMOST DOWN THE CENTER. 
          THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. THE EAST SIDE, ALL THE LITTLE DOTS. THAT'S WHERE ALL THE SCHOOLS ARE. ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IN THE HILL COUNTRY PORTION THERE ARE NO SCHOOLS, BUT YOU WILL NOTICE THERE'S NAMES. OH, BACK. SORRY. VALENTI. JONESTOWN. NAMELESS. WELL, I'M SORRY, I'M HAVING A BAD POINTER DAY TODAY. THOSE WERE AREAS WHERE WE DID HAVE SCHOOLS. LAGO VISTA IS ANOTHER LAGO VISTA SCHOOL RIGHT IN HERE. THIS AREA AT ONE TIME, LAGO VISTA, THEY DID NOT THEY WERE NOT OFFICIALLY PART OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. BUT THE STUDENTS DID GO TO LEANDER TO GRADUATE THE LAGO VISTA SCHOOL. THEY BROKE OFF AND BECAME THEIR OWN SCHOOL DISTRICT IN 1985 86. 
          SOMEWHERE IN THERE. AND SO THEY ARE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT WE ARE IN 
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WILLIAMSON AND TRAVIS COUNTY, AND WE BORDER UP ON BURNET COUNTY. IT IS 200MI■!S, WHICH IA VERY GOOD SIZE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AT ONE POINT IT WAS THE 11TH LARGEST. CURRENTLY THE ENROLLMENT IS 42,000. AND SOME CHANGE. THAT WAS 2023. I'M SURE THAT IS MUCH HIGHER NOW IN THE WITH THE 2023 CENSUS THAT PUT LEANDER ABOUT THE SIZE RANKED NUMBER 25 IN THE STATE FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS. SO HARRIS COUNTY SCHOOLS ARE NUMBER ONE. SAN ANTONIO. YOU KNOW, THE MUNICIPALITIES, THEIR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THEIR URBAN SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE LARGER. BUT WE ARE RIGHT UP THERE WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS LIKE FORT WORTH, RICHARDSON, PLANO, RIGHT IN THAT SIZE. OKAY. BAGHDAD SCHOOL BAGHDAD SCHOOL IS THE FORERUNNER OF WHAT BECAME LEANDER. OUR EARLIEST CLASSES WERE IN 1854, OUR EARLIEST CLASSES. SO PRIOR WHEN BEFORE TEXAS BECAME A STATE, WE WERE PART OF SPAIN AND THEN PART OF MEXICO. DURING THE MEXICAN ERA, THE MEXICAN SCHOOLS, THERE WERE MEXICAN SCHOOLS FOR THE ELITE. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STEPHEN F AUSTIN WANTED IS HE WANTED EDUCATION FOR EVERYONE. AND HE ACTUALLY HAD CLASSES STARTING IN 1832, IN AUSTIN'S COLONY. WE HERE ARE PART OF AUSTIN'S LITTLE COLONY. SO WE WERE SECOND, NOT FIRST IN OUR AREA TO GET SCHOOLS. IN 1854, GREENLEAF FISK HIMSELF TALKED WILLIAMSON COUNTY, WHICH HAD BECOME A COUNTY IN 1848. HE HAD TALKED WILLIAMSON COUNTY INTO HAVING SCHOOLS. THE LEGISLATURE RIGHT BEFORE THAT HAD ALLOCATED THREE LEAGUES OF LAND FOR COUNTY FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION. GREENLEAF FISK. HE WAS THE FIRST COUNTY SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS, AND HE HELD CLASSES IN HIS LOG CABIN IN. IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE GABRIEL. SO THEY WOULD WALK FROM BAGHDAD TO ABOUT WHERE THE BRIDGE IS AT 183, IN THE SAN GABRIEL. THEY WOULD WALK EVERY DAY FROM BAGHDAD TO HIS LOG CABIN, AND HE HIMSELF WOULD TEACH THEM. STARTING IN 1854, THERE WERE TWO SCHOOLS IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY AT THAT TIME IN BAGDAD WAS ONE OF THEM. 
          BAGDAD. MOVING ON. WE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, WE BUILT OUR FIRST SCHOOL. I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS SCHOOL BEFORE. IT WAS BUILT IN 1870, AND THAT'S A PICTURE FROM 1892, RIGHT BEFORE IT WAS MOVED TO LEANDER IN 1893. THIS IS THE SCHOOL THAT WAS BUILT ON THE CORNER THAT BURNED DOWN IN IN 1939. AND I HAVE I'M I AM I GO BACK AND FORTH WHETHER THESE ARE THE STONES FROM THE ORIGINAL SCHOOL OR NOT. I HAVE DOCUMENTATION SAYING PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE AT THE TIME SAY, YES, THOSE ARE THE SAME STONES. THEY WERE MOVED OVER. IF THOSE ARE THE SAME STONES, THEY DID NOT PUT THEM BACK TOGETHER IN THE RIGHT WAY. THE PREVIOUS SCHOOL, THE 1870 SCHOOL, WAS A MUCH BETTER BUILT SCHOOL THAN THIS ONE. THIS IS THE SCHOOL AGAIN, AND I HAVE LITTLE THINGS HERE. 
          SO WE BUILT THE SCHOOL IN 1893 TO GET TO THAT MASSIVE SIZE. WE CONSOLIDATED WITH OTHER SCHOOLS IN 1885. THE COX SCHOOL, WHICH WAS DOWN AT VALENTE, 1938, VALENTE COX SPRING SCHOOL AND THEN CYPRESS CREEK SCHOOL, 1938. BOTH THOSE SCHOOLS CONSOLIDATED WITH LEANDER, BECAUSE THAT WAS WHEN THE DAM WAS BUILT AND BOTH OF THOSE SCHOOLS WERE UNDERWATER. EXCUSE ME. COX WAS UNDER UNDERWATER. THEY MOVED IT. AND IT'S UP IN JONESTOWN RIGHT NOW. CYPRESS CREEK SCHOOL IS WHERE IT IS NOW. JENKS BRANCH. IT BEGAN IN 1870, ACTUALLY ABOUT 1871, I BELIEVE, AND IT WAS ALMOST A MIRROR IMAGE OF BAGDAD. AND IN 1945 IT THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT DECIDED TO GO OR THAT ONE ROOM SCHOOL DECIDED TO GO TO LIBERTY HILL. NAMELESS SCHOOL, SAME THING. PLEASANT HILL. 
          ANYWAY, WE ALL GO ON DOWN AND THERE WE HAVE OUR SCHOOLS. AND I WILL LEAVE IT WITH THIS BECAUSE I WILL MOVE ON. THIS IS GOING TO BE A THREE PART SERIES, BUT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT IS THE SIZE OF IT BECAUSE WE HAD ALL OF THESE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT CONSOLIDATED, AND THEY ALL CAME HERE TO LEANDER, BECAUSE LEANDER WAS THE CENTER OF LIFE FOR THAT 200MI■!S OF LAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS HOWELL. WE SHOULD ADOPT THAT AS OUR NEW MOTTO. WE ARE THE CENTER OF LIFE FOR 200 MILES. WE ARE. IT'S GOOD MARKETING. WE ARE. IT IS A GOOD MOTTO. I'LL WORK ON ON MARKETING 
          [8. Staff ReportsIntroduction of Otis Williams appointed Chief Financial Officer BCRUA UpdateCapital Improvement Project Update: Senior Center (CIP P.6)Water Update]
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THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, STAFF REPORTS. OUR FIRST REPORT IS THE INTRODUCTION OF OTIS WILLIAMS, OUR NEWLY APPOINTED, WELL, SOON TO BE APPOINTED CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. CITY MANAGER. PARDON? SIR. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN FIT ALL THIS INTO THREE MINUTES. IT IS MY HOPE A LITTLE LATER ON THE AGENDA THAT CITY COUNCIL DOES RATIFY THE SELECTION OF MR. WILLIAMS AS OUR NEXT CFO. I DON'T KNOW, PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO, MISS WILLIAMS CAME TO US TO HELP US FILL OUR CFO POSITION ON AN INTERIM BASIS. 
          AND HE THINKS SO HIGHLY OF LEANDER. THE OPPORTUNITIES HERE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HIM COMING AND JOINING US ON A PERMANENT BASIS, WHICH I'M ECSTATIC FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY. HE HAS 30 PLUS YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR. 
          HE HAS RUN STATE AGENCIES. HE HAS WORKED AT THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, HAS RUN AND OPERATED AT AN EXTREMELY HIGH LEVEL AND IS BRINGING A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE AND CAPABILITIES TO US, PARTICULARLY AT A CRITICAL TIME WHEN WE'RE STARTING TO BUILD OUR SHIPS AND WE'RE BUILDING OUR ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE. SO HE WILL BE INVALUABLE TO US MOVING FORWARD. SO AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK OTIS FOR AGREEING TO JOIN WITH US AND GIVE YOU A COUPLE MINUTES TO SAY SOME WORDS. THANK YOU. MR. PARDON. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING MAYOR. COUNCIL, IT IS SUCH A PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO VISIT WITH YOU. AND I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT BECOMING YOUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. ON MY ARRIVAL, I REALIZED THAT THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. AND SO OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, I PLAN TO INSTITUTE A VERY HIGH PERFORMING ORGANIZATION, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE THAT WILL PUT THIS CITY ON THE MAP. I KNOW IT'S THE EIGHTH BEST PLACE TO LIVE RIGHT NOW, BUT HOPEFULLY WORKING WITH YOU AND WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER WILL MAKE LEANDER NUMBER ONE. AND I DEFINITELY WANT. YOU'RE OFF TO A GOOD START. THANK YOU. 
          AND TO MY COLLEAGUES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NOTICED IS THAT THERE IS A COMMITMENT TO WORK TOGETHER AND TO COLLABORATE WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY WITHIN THE CITY STAFF, AND SO I COMMEND THEM FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT SUPPORT THROUGHOUT MY TENURE IN THIS POSITION. SO AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRUST AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. WILLIAMS. WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE. ALL RIGHT. 
          NEXT UP IS BCRA UPDATE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. ALLISON. GOOD EVENING, MISS ALLISON. GOOD EVENING. GOING TO QUICKLY PASS IT OFF TO AARON ARCHER WITH WALKER PARTNERS, WHO IS THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON ALL THINGS BCRA. SO HE'S GOING TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, NEW FACES. SO HAND IT OFF TO AARON. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. ARCHER. THANK YOU GINA. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE BCRA PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING COMPLETED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF LEANDER. WE HAVE A LOT OF HUGE PROJECTS UNDER DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR THE LONG TERM WATER SUPPLY FOR THE CITY. AND BEFORE I JUMP INTO THE DETAILS ON THAT PROJECT, I JUST WANTED TO REWIND IT FOR A MINUTE TO TALK ABOUT THE BCRA, THE BRUSHY CREEK REGIONAL UTILITY AUTHORITY, THE GENESIS OF IT THAT STARTED AS A VISION OVER 20 YEARS AGO BETWEEN THE CITIES OF CEDAR PARK, ROUND ROCK AND LEANDER, WHERE ALL THREE CITIES WERE CONCURRENTLY LOOKING OUT AT THEIR ULTIMATE BUILD OUT NEEDS FOR THEIR CITIES, AND WANTING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THE WATER. AND THEY CAME TOGETHER AT THAT TIME AND SAW THE BENEFITS OF DOING A REGIONAL PARTNERSHIP, ECONOMIC BENEFITS, REDUCED ENVIRONMENTAL AND COMMUNITY IMPACTS. AND SO THE BCRA WAS FORMED IN 2007. AND WHEN THAT SYSTEM IS COMPLETELY BUILT OUT, WHEN ALL THE CITIES ARE ARE DONE GROWING, IT WILL ULTIMATELY PROVIDE 62 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF RAW WATER FROM LAKE TRAVIS TO THE CITY OF LEANDER. 12 MGD WILL GO TO LEANDER'S EXISTING WATER TREATMENT PLANT. AND THEN THE DIFFERENCE THE OTHER 50 MGD WILL COME FROM THE BCR UA SYSTEM. SO OBVIOUSLY A VERY IMPORTANT ASSET FOR THE CITY. NOW I'M GOING TO UPDATE YOU ON THIS LIST OF CAPITAL PROJECTS ONE AT A TIME. CERTAINLY IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN STOP IN THE 
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MIDDLE OF THAT PROJECT AND TALK ABOUT IT. NO NEED TO WAIT TILL THE END. I'LL START BY TALKING ABOUT THE PHASE TWO RAW WATER DELIVERY SYSTEM PROJECT. THIS IS THE LARGE PROJECT OCCURRING OUT ON LAKE TRAVIS. THEN I'LL TALK ABOUT THE PHASE ONE WATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION. WE'LL DISCUSS A SMALLER PROJECT, A DELIVERY POINT IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, AND THEN I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE PHASE TWO, THE NEXT PLANT EXPANSION. PHASE TWO, A PLANT EXPANSION HAPPENING AT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. SO THE PHASE TWO PROJECT IS A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN IN SOME FORM OF DEVELOPMENT NOW FOR OVER 20 YEARS. WHEN PLANNING FIRST STARTED FOR THE PROJECT. AND IT HAS TWO PRIMARY PURPOSES. ONE IS TO MEET GROWING WATER DEMANDS FOR THE THREE CITIES. THE EXISTING INTAKE OUT ON THE LAKE IS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION. IT'S CAPACITY LIMITED AND WHEN WE EXCEED THE CAPACITY OF THAT INTAKE, THE PHASE TWO PROJECT NEEDS TO BE ONLINE AT THAT TIME. 
          THE OTHER MAIN PURPOSE FOR THE PROJECT, THOUGH, IS TO REDUCE DROUGHT VULNERABILITY. 
          CURRENTLY, BOTH LEANDER CEDAR PARK AND THEN ALSO BE SURE TO HAVE FLOATING INTAKES IN A RELATIVELY SHALLOW ARM OF THE LAKE. AND WHEN THE LAKE LEVELS GET LIKE THEY ARE TODAY, WHICH HAS BEEN A RECURRING PROBLEM FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, IT THREATENS THE OPERATION OF THOSE INTAKES. 
          SO THIS PHASE TWO PROJECT IS INTENDED TO ESTABLISH AN INTAKE AT A DEEPER LOCATION IN THE LAKE, WHERE ROUTINE DROUGHTS LIKE HAVE BEEN OCCURRING RECENTLY, WILL NOT RENDER YOUR INTAKE INOPERABLE UNDER LOW LAKE LEVELS. THE PHASE TWO PROJECT HAS AN ULTIMATE CAPACITY WHEN IT'S COMPLETELY BUILT OUT OF 145 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, DISTRIBUTED AMONG THE THREE CITIES. THE MAJOR COMPONENTS, STARTING IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER ARE. FIRST, A NEW INTAKE AT A DEEPER LOCATION IN THE LAKE OFF OF THE SHORELINE FROM THE VILLAGE OF VALENTI NEAR STAN'S ISLAND, THAT WILL CONVEY WATER BY GRAVITY BACK TO A PUMP STATION LOCATED ADJACENT TO CEDAR PARK'S WATER TREATMENT PLANT. THE PUMP STATION WILL THEN SEND THE WATER ACROSS THE LAKE TO THE RED LINE, WHICH WAS A PIPELINE BUILT IN 2012. DURING THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE PROFILE DOWN BELOW HOW THE WATER FLOWS, ESSENTIALLY BY GRAVITY FROM THE INTAKE TO THE PUMP STATION AND THEN BEING PUMPED UP TO THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. AN IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE ABOUT THE PHASE TWO PROJECT IS IT WILL PROVIDE WATER TO BEACH AREA WASTEWATER PLANT, BUT IT WILL ALSO SEND WATER TO LEANDER'S EXISTING WATER TREATMENT PLANT, AND IT WILL SEND WATER TO CEDAR PARK'S WATER TREATMENT PLANT. SO SERVICING THREE DIFFERENT PLANTS. THE PHASE TWO PROJECT ENTERED INTO CONSTRUCTION BACK IN SUMMER OF 2022. SO WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO THREE YEARS UNDERWAY ON THAT PROJECT. SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION WHEN THAT PROJECT SHOULD BE TURNED OVER FOR OPERATION IS SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY OF 2027, SO WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO BEFORE THE PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETE ON A TIME BASIS. THE PROJECT IS ABOUT 64% COMPLETE AND THEN ON A COST BASIS, THE CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THAT PROJECT IS $225 MILLION, AND THE CONTRACTOR HAS BUILT TO DATE ABOUT 55% OF THAT WORK. I AM HAPPY TO REPORT HAVING DONE $124 MILLION OF WORK SO FAR, THAT THERE'S BEEN ONE CHANGE ORDER FOR A VERY MODEST $237,000, WHICH IS ACTUALLY AN OWNER DIRECTED CHANGE BY CEDAR PARK TO MAKE A CONNECTION TO THEIR WATER TREATMENT PLANT FOR SOME NEW GENERATORS THAT THEY HAD INSTALLED LAST YEAR. SOME COMPLETED MILESTONES ON THE PROJECT. THIS PROJECT, IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO SEE IT, THEN YOU WILL BE FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE DEEP UNDERGROUND MINING OCCURRING ON THIS PROJECT. IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SEE IT, WE NEED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE THOSE UNDERGROUND WORKS WILL BE FLOODED THIS FALL. BUT THEY HAVE COMPLETED ALL OF THE MINING ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT, WHICH IS MULTIPLE MILES OF LARGE DIAMETER TUNNELS, AS WELL AS A 30 FOOT DIAMETER, 300 FOOT DEEP SHAFT. THEY'VE LINED ALL OF THAT, COMPLETED ALL OF THE LINERS. SO THEY'RE REALLY WRAPPING UP AT THIS POINT ON ANY OF THE WORK THAT WILL OCCUR UNDERGROUND. THERE ARE CURRENTLY INSTALLING SHAFTS FOR THE PUMPS TO WITHDRAW WATER FROM A LARGE UNDERGROUND SUCTION CHAMBER, AND PUTTING CASINGS IN THOSE SHAFTS HAS BEEN SOME VERY COMPLEX WORK, AND THEY'RE APPROACHING THE END OF THAT. THEY'RE ALSO AT THIS POINT WORKING ON A RECOVERY SCHEDULE. SOME OF THE SHAFT CONSTRUCTION TOOK LONGER THAN THE CONTRACTOR ANTICIPATED. SO THE CONTRACTOR HAS DEVELOPED A RECOVERY SCHEDULE TO REGAIN THAT LOST TIME. UPCOMING WORK. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONCRETE WORK UNDERGROUND THAT THEY'LL BE WRAPPING UP, WHICH WILL BE ONE OF THE LAST THINGS THEY NEED TO 
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DO BEFORE THEY CAN INTRODUCE WATER INTO THE PROJECT, ALONG WITH SOME ADDITIONAL MARINE WORK. THEY'VE STARTED WORK ON THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING, WHICH IS A SEPARATE WORK SITE ONSHORE ADJACENT TO THE INTAKE TO ALLOW BCRA TO TREAT FOR ZEBRA MUSSELS TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T INFEST THE RAW WATER SYSTEM. AND THEN THEY HAVE STARTED WORK NOW ON THE PUMP FOUNDATION AND SOME DEEP PIPING THAT WILL GO BENEATH THAT FOUNDATION AT THE PUMP STATION SITE. MOVING ON TO PHASE 1D. ANY QUESTIONS ON PHASE TWO THAT I CAN ANSWER BEFORE I JUMP TO THE PLANT? PHASE TWO. PHASE 1D IS AN EXPANSION TO THE PLANT AND WE WILL BE INCREASING. CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? SORRY. ON ON THE RECOVERY SCHEDULE IS THAT DO WE KNOW IF IT'S COMPLETELY BACK TO WHERE IT WAS OR IS THERE GOING TO BE? WHAT'S THE COMPROMISE AND WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT AS DELAYS ON THAT? YES. THANK YOU THAT THE RECOVERY SCHEDULE DOES BRING IT BACK INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONTRACT FOR AN ON TIME COMPLETION. YES. THE PHASE 1D PROJECT IS AN EXPANSION TO THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. 
          ALL THESE PHASING NAMES WERE DEVELOPED LONG AGO, BACK IN THE 2005 AND SIX TIME FRAME. BUT IT'S AN EXPANSION TO THE PLANT TO INCREASE CAPACITY TO 32.5 MGD. IT'S BEING BUILT BY EXCEL CONSTRUCTION OUT OF LEANDER. THE NTP WAS GIVEN IN MAY OF 2023, AND AT THIS POINT, THEY ARE JUST ABOUT DONE WITH THIS PLAN EXPANSION. THEY'VE GOT SOME COMMISSIONING AND START UP ACTIVITIES, AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO START A DEMONSTRATION TEST TO TURN THAT OVER. THE CONTRACT VALUE IS $17 MILLION. THEY'RE ABOUT 90% OF THE WAY THROUGH ON A BILLINGS BASIS. AND THERE'S ONE CHANGE ORDER ON THAT PROJECT. FOR ACTUAL WORK IN THE GROUND. THEY'VE COMPLETED ALL OF THE MAJOR STRUCTURES INVOLVING ANY KIND OF STEEL AND CONCRETE. THEY'VE STARTED UP THE MAIN TREATMENT PROCESS FOR PRETREATMENT, THE LARGE BASINS THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THOSE PHOTOS THAT'S NOW WORKING, THE REMAINING WORK THEY HAVE IS A LITTLE BIT OF WORK ON THEIR CHEM FEED SYSTEMS. THEY HAVE A CONTROL PANEL. THEY NEED TO GET ON THEIR FILTER TO MAKE IT OPERATIONAL, AND THEN THEY JUST NEED TO START IT UP IN, COMMISSION IT. ANY QUESTIONS ON 1D. NO, YOU'RE DOING GOOD. THE DELIVERY POINT IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT IS A RELATIVELY SMALL PROJECT. WE BROKE IT INTO TWO PHASES. THIS IS DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS AT THE DELIVERY POINTS FOR ALL THREE OF THE CITIES WHERE YOU TAKE TREATED WATER FROM. BE SURE YOU AGE TREATED WATER TRANSMISSION PIPELINE. LEANDER HAS FOUR TAKE POINTS ON THAT PIPELINE. THE PHASE ONE PROJECT INCLUDED SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO ONE OF THOSE TAKE POINTS AS WELL AS ROUND ROCKS TAKE POINT, AND IT WAS BASICALLY SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO COMMUNICATION, STANDARDIZING HOW THOSE SYSTEMS WERE OPERATING, BRINGING IN SOME BACKUP POWER AS WELL TO THOSE SITES. AND THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED, ALTHOUGH WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SOME ADDITIONAL SCALE WORK ON THAT PROJECT AS WELL, TO CONTINUE TO STANDARDIZE EACH OF THOSE POINTS FOR CONTROL. PHASE TWO TACKLES THE OTHER THREE LEANDER DELIVERY POINTS. AGAIN, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CONTROL AND OPERATION OF THOSE POINTS AND BRINGING IN BACKUP POWER SUPPLY. AND THAT WILL BE WRAPPED UP HERE IN JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS. THE LAST PROJECT I WANTED TO COVER IS THE PHASE TWO, A WATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION. AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THE NAMING SCHEME THAT WAS DEVELOPED FOR THESE PHASED EXPANSIONS. BUT PHASE TWO A IS A MAJOR PROJECT. IT WILL EXPAND THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT FROM THE PHASE ONE D CAPACITY, WHICH WILL BE ABOUT 42 MGD, UP TO 64 MGD. 
          LEANDER IS A 52% PARTICIPANT IN THAT PROJECT. THE DIFFERENCE WILL GO TO ROUND ROCK. CEDAR PARK IS NOT PARTICIPATING IN PHASE TWO. A THEY DID NOT NEED THE WATER AT THIS TIME. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION STARTING THIS YEAR. WE'RE ACTUALLY AT THIS POINT JUST GOING THROUGH FINAL, FINAL PERMITTING BEFORE WE RELEASE THAT PROJECT OUT TO BID. AND IT CONSISTS OF ADDING TWO NEW TREATMENT TRAINS AT THE SITE. YOU CAN SEE IT COLOR CODED IN LIGHT GREEN WILL ACTUALLY BE STARTING A NEW TREATMENT STRUCTURE OUT THERE AT THE PLANT WITH PHASE TWO A. WITH DESIGN COMPLETE AND PERMITTING WRAPPING UP. WE DO ANTICIPATE ADVERTISING THAT PROJECT AND GOING THROUGH BIDDING LATER THIS SUMMER AND WITH CONSTRUCTION CONCLUDING BEFORE WE GET TO SUMMER OF 2028. SO PHASE TWO A BEING A LARGE PROJECT, THE ESTIMATED COST IS OVER $100 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT. ROUND ROCK AND LEANDER BOTH WENT TO TEXAS WATER 
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DEVELOPMENT BOARD WITH SWIFT APPLICATIONS, AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT A FEW TIMES AND HAD A FEW COUNCIL ACTIONS ON IT. THE FINAL APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. WE HAVE RESOLVED ANY COMMENTS THEY HAD ON THAT APPLICATION. SO THE NEXT STEP IS IN JULY. THEY WILL THEY WILL APPROVE SWIFT APPLICATIONS AND THEN IN AUGUST THEY'LL COME TO YOU WITH A FINANCING AGREEMENT THAT BE SURE, YOU WILL NEED TO APPROVE, AS WELL AS THE CITY OF LEANDER AND THE CITY OF ROUND ROCK. THEN IN SEPTEMBER, THEY WILL SELL BONDS THAT WILL LOCK IN INTEREST RATES. IN OCTOBER, THE BOND RESOLUTION WILL BE APPROVED AND THEN BONDS WILL CLOSE GENERALLY AROUND THE NOVEMBER TIME FRAME. THE ONE LAST ITEM I WANTED TO COVER TODAY WAS JUST AN UPDATE ON THE DROUGHT. OF COURSE, ANYONE WATCHING LAKE TRAVIS CAN SEE THAT IT'S BEING VERY PERSISTENT. WE'RE ABOUT TO KIND OF EXIT THE WET PERIOD, AND SO WE'RE LIKELY TO HOVER WHERE WE ARE FOR A WHILE IN THE LAKE. AS I WROTE THIS, THE LAKE WAS ABOUT 637. I THINK IT HAS COME UP A LITTLE BIT SINCE I PREPARED THE SLIDE DECK, BUT NOT VERY MUCH. WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW IS THAT IF THE LAKE GOES BELOW AN ELEVATION OF 623, THEN THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE NEED TO DECOMMISSION VARIOUS FLOATING INTAKE. AND SO WE'VE GOT A WAYS TO GO. I'LL SHARE A FORECAST WHERE THE LAKE WILL GO. AND OF COURSE IT GENERALLY DROPS OVER THE SUMMER. WE ENTER THE FALL IN THE WINTER AND IT STAYS RELATIVELY STEADY. THEY'RE NOT PROJECTING CURRENTLY THAT WE'LL HIT 623 THIS CALENDAR YEAR, SO WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR A WET PERIOD IN OCTOBER AND NEXT SPRING TO BRING THE LAKE LEVEL UP. BUT WE CONTINUE TO TRACK THIS SHOULD IT BECOME NECESSARY TO START A CONVERSATION ABOUT DECOMMISSIONING THE FLOATING INTAKE. WOULD THAT BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU COUNCIL, ANYBODY? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING SUCH A THOROUGH AND DETAILED ACCOUNT OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH BCC. I APPRECIATE IT. ABSOLUTELY. ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S SO WEIRD TO SEE WHAT WAS JUST A CONCEPT A COUPLE YEARS AGO. NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FILLING THE INTAKE. IT'S CRAZY TO ME. IT'S MOVING QUICKLY. IT'S GREAT TO SEE IT COMING. IT TOOK THREE YEARS TO GET TO HERE. YES. VERY, VERY LONG YEARS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UP NEXT IS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT UPDATE ON THE SENIOR CENTER CIP POINT SIX CIP PROJECT MANAGER ALABASTRO. GOOD EVENING. AARON'S A LITTLE TALL. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL. CITY MANAGER BARTON. HERE'S THE MONTHLY UPDATE ON THE SENIOR CENTER. SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ROOFING AND GUTTERS THAT ARE GOING INTO PLACE. THE MASONRY VENEER IS IN PROGRESS. 
          THEY'RE ABOUT 40% THROUGH ON THAT. THEY DID GET SOME WEATHER EFFECTS LAST WEEK WITH THE ON AND OFF RAINS. AND THEY CAME IN THIS PAST WEEKEND AND TRIED TO MAKE UP SOME TIME. WINDOW FRAMES AND GLASS ARE ALSO GOING GETTING INSTALLED AT THIS POINT. THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP PUNCHING THROUGH THAT WALL. FRAMING AND SHEATHING IS STILL IN PROGRESS. AND THE MECHANICAL, THE ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, ROUGH INS ARE STILL MOVING ALONG AS WELL. AS THEY STARTED PUTTING THEIR IT CONDUITS IN BOXES AND STARTING THIS WEEK ALSO WE HAD PARKING LIGHT POLES ALSO INSTALLED AS WELL. THERE'S A CONGLOMERATE OF PICTURES HERE WITH THE GLASS IN A LOT OF THE FRAMING AND SOME OF THE ROOF WORK THAT STARTED THE TRIM AND THE GUTTERS LAST WEEK. AND SO A LOT OF THE MASONRY WORK THAT HAS ALSO BEEN PUSHING THROUGH, SOME OF THE OUTDOOR FANS HAVE STARTED GOING IN AS WELL. AND THERE'S KIND OF A BACKYARD SHOT OF THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING. AND ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCIL. YEAH I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY. SO WHY THE DELAY? WE WERE LOOKING LIKE WE WERE ON TRACK FOR JUNE. AND THEN WE DO THE LANDSCAPING LATER AND NOW WE'RE TALKING SEPTEMBER. SO WE, WE DID HIT SOME DESIGN CHALLENGES THAT WE HAD TO REVISIT AND WORK OUT SOME SPACING TO MAKE SURE WE WERE PROGRAMED CORRECTLY FOR THE COMPLETION, INSTEAD OF BUILDING WHERE WE WERE AND HAVING TO TEAR IT BACK DOWN AND WASTE THAT MONEY. SO WE HIT SOME OF THOSE SNAGS THERE. SO THIS CAME FROM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS TO THE SENIORS AND FIGURING OUT LIKE HOW WE WANT TO USE THE PIECES OF THE BUILDING, AND THEN WE BASICALLY STEPPED BACK AND REASSESSED IT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU STILL. I THINK WE 
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ALSO HAD SOME TROUBLE GETTING SOME OF THE MATERIALS CORRECT. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. THAT WAS A BIG SETBACK. YEAH. WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE MASONRY PRODUCTION. THERE WAS A HATE TO CALL IT FATALITY AND BRING THAT OUT. BUT THERE THERE WAS OSHA SHUT THE PLANT DOWN FOR A FEW WEEKS WHILE THEY INVESTIGATED THAT ACCIDENTAL DEATH. YEAH. AND SO WITH THAT YOU'RE ANTICIPATING OPENING WIN AGAIN. WE'RE LOOKING AT SEPTEMBER 15TH, MID SEPTEMBER FOR SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION. 
          OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. UP NEXT IS WATER UPDATE WITH EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS ALLISON WELCOME BACK. I GOT THIS ONE THIS TIME. NO KENLEY THIS TIME HE HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB AND I APPRECIATE HIM WHILE HE WHILE I WAS OUT AARON TOUCHED ON IT JUST A LITTLE BIT EARLIER LOOKING AT THE DROUGHT AND KIND OF THE RAINS THAT WE'VE SEEN THESE PAST MONTH OR SO. IN THE MIDDLE HERE IS, IS THE MAP THAT WE SHOWED LAST MONTH. SO, YOU KNOW, WILLIAMSON COUNTY IS RIGHT ABOUT THERE. SO WE WERE IN THAT DARKER RED COLOR. IF YOU LOOK OFF INTO JUNE, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF MUCH OF NORTH AND A LITTLE BIT WEST OF US HAS RECEDED. SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE EFFECTS OF THE RAIN AS FAR AS THE SOIL MOISTURE AS WE MOVE INTO THE SUMMER. ZOOMING IN ON THE BASIN. THIS IS KIND OF THE WATERSHED AREA THAT WE NEED THE RAINS TO HIT IN ORDER TO AFFECT OUR LAKES, WHICH ARE LAKES BUCHANAN AND LAKE TRAVIS. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER UP IN THIS PART, YOU CAN SEE REALLY THE DROUGHTS RECEDED. 
          THEY'VE RECEIVED A LOT MORE OF THE RAIN THAN TRAVIS HAS, ALTHOUGH TRAVIS HAS SEEN A NICE UPTICK. LAKE BUCHANAN SAW ALMOST FIVE FEET RISE SINCE MAYBE SINCE WE TALKED LAST MONTH. AND THEN TRAVIS IS RIGHT AROUND THAT THREE FEET. SO AGAIN, WE'RE AT ABOUT SIX I THINK SIX 38.5 RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, DOING DOING GOOD. AND ESPECIALLY JUNE RAINS ARE A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO COME BY. RIGHT. IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S RAINED A LOT. BUT REALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL FLOWS HERE, WE WOULD EXPECT MAY TO BE UP IN THIS KIND OF 192,000 ACRE FEET. THE DROUGHT OF RECORD, WHICH IS KIND OF THAT 22,008 TO 2015, YOU'D BE MORE IN THE 96,000 ACRE FEET. 
          AND LAST MONTH WE SAW ABOUT 68,000. SO STILL LESS THAN THE DROUGHT OF RECORD, STILL NOT AS MUCH RAIN AS WE HISTORICALLY WOULD HAVE SEEN IN MAY. LCR HAS BEEN TRACKING THIS CURRENT DROUGHT, WHICH IS SHOWN IN GREEN WITH THE DROUGHT OF RECORD, WHICH IS SHOWN IN BLUE. YOU CAN SEE THIS NICE UPTICK HERE. THAT WAS KIND OF THAT MAY TO JUNE WHERE WE SAW. SO YOU KNOW HISTORICALLY WE'RE LOOKING BETTER THAN THE DROUGHT OF RECORD. AND I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS THE WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN. THEY'VE STARTED TO LOOK AT THOSE INFLOWS AND PULL THOSE TRIGGERS A LITTLE BIT SOONER AS FAR AS ONCE A WEEK WATERING AND HOW THAT AFFECTS THINGS. WE SHOWED THIS GRAPHIC LAST MONTH BECAUSE LCRA HAS A KIND OF THEIR NEXT TRIGGER THAT THEY WOULD NH THREE WOULD BE IF THE LAKES HIT A COMBINED STORAGE OF 750,000 ACRE FEET. THIS IS PUSHED OUT ABOUT A MONTH WITH THE RECENT RAINS. SO NOW THEY'RE KIND OF PROJECTING IT IN THAT MID SEPTEMBER RANGE. IF WE CONTINUED, YOU KNOW, ON THIS RED KIND OF DOWNWARD TREND THROUGH THE SUMMER, I'D LIKE TO HOPE THAT THIS MEANS WE'RE GOING TO GO ON THIS GREEN TREND RIGHT HERE. BUT THERE'S REALLY, REALLY NO TELLING. SO SHOULD WE HIT 750,000 ACRE FEET BETWEEN THE TWO LAKES, LIKE I MENTIONED WOULD GO TO DROUGHT STAGE THREE, WHICH WOULD MEAN LEANDER WOULD GO TO NO OUTDOOR WATERING AS A PART OF OUR OUR DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN. REALLY QUICKLY. I WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT. WHEN LCRA ENTERS STAGE THREE, EVERYBODY THAT GETS WATER FROM LCRA IS NO OUTDOOR WATER. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT. SO IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY BECAUSE THAT'S THEY HAVE LCRA DROUGHT. STAGE THREE LIMITS OUTDOOR WATERING TO SIX HOURS A WEEK. THAT'S THEIR DROUGHT. STAGE THREE WE. WHEN WE MADE OUR PLAN, WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A WAY TO IMPLEMENT THAT, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE ARMY, WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO TRACK IT. SO WE JUST FELT IT WOULD BE TOO HARD TO MANAGE. SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT AHEAD TO GO TO THAT. NO OUTDOOR WATERING. SO EVERY CITY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THAT'S KIND OF THE BARE MINIMUM. BUT FOR US, BECAUSE OF THE LIKE I SAID, THE LIMITATIONS OF OUR SYSTEM AND NOT BEING ABLE TO REALLY TRACK THAT SIX HOURS, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU TELL SOMEBODY WATER SIX HOURS A WEEK, RIGHT, WHEN YOU HAVE 30,000 CONNECTIONS? SO IT JUST WAS A LITTLE BIT SIMPLER FOR US TO DO IT THAT WAY. THANK YOU. YES, 
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MA'AM. THIS IS ALSO LOOKING A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH THE RECENT RAINS. AARON MENTIONED THAT THEY'RE NOT PROJECTING LAKE TRAVIS TO HIT 623 WHERE THAT FIRST BARGE WOULD GO OFFLINE UNTIL, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY EVEN NEXT YEAR. THIS WAS AS OF LAST MONTH WAS, YOU KNOW, FURTHER BACK HERE. SO THE RAINS HAVE HELPED WITH THE PROJECTIONS. I HAVE SOME OTHER TRIGGERS ON HERE. WE WOULD LAUNCH OUR DROUGHT BARGE AT 630 POTENTIALLY. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST CONTRACTUALLY WHEN WE CAN DO IT. NOT NECESSARILY THAT WE WOULD. AND THEN THOSE KIND OF THOSE LONGER RANGE TRIGGERS WHERE BARGE WOULD GO OFFLINE AT 623, WE WOULD PUT THAT DROUGHT BARGE IN OPERATION AT 620, AND THEN WE WOULD LOSE THE SANDY CREEK BARGE AT 618. AS I MENTIONED, THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY OCTOBER OF 2025. IT'S PUSHED OUT TO JUNE OF 26 NOW. SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS AND JUST A SUMMARY OF THOSE LIMITATIONS. SO IF WE WERE TO LOSE THE BARGE, IF IT WOULD GO OFFLINE BECAUSE OF DROUGHT, WE WOULD BE LIMITED TO SANDY CREEK AND THAT WOULD BE 12 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. IF THE EMERGENCY BARGE IS ACTIVATED, WE WOULD ONLY RECEIVE 9 MILLION GALLONS TO SANDY CREEK. THAT'S JUST IT'S A 30 MILLION GALLON PER DAY BARGE. SO 21 GOES TO CEDAR PARK AND NINE COMES TO US. 
          SO YES, I THINK THAT IS ALL I HAVE THERE. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU COUNCIL. THANK YOU. THAT'S 
          [ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA COUNCIL. WE DO 
          [13. Approval of a service agreement by and between the City of Leander and LION Organizational Development Institute, LLC, providing for a scope of work including retention and cost reduction, decreased overtime costs, improved operational efficiency, and reduced legal and liability risks for the Leander Police Department in the amount of $85,000.00; and authorize the City Manager to execute any and all necessary documents.]
HAVE A SPEAKER FOR ITEM NUMBER 13. ITEM 13 IS APPROVAL OF A SERVICE AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF LEANDER AND LYON ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT INSTITUTE, LLC, PROVIDING FOR A SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDING RETENTION AND COST REDUCTION, DECREASED OVERTIME COSTS, IMPROVED OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY, AND REDUCED LEGAL AND LIABILITY RISKS FOR THE LEANDER POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $85,000, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. SPEAKER WE HAVE TONIGHT IS ANITA. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MAYOR. CITY MANAGER. DARA. THERE SHE IS. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY THANKING THE LEANDER POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR CONTINUED SERVICES AND PROFESSIONALISM IN THE CITY THAT IS GROWING RAPIDLY AND PLACING GREATER DEMANDS ON PUBLIC SAFETY EVERYWHERE. THEIR WORK IS ESSENTIAL AND SO IS INVESTING IN THEIR LONG TERM WELL-BEING AND EFFECTIVENESS TO SUPPORT THAT INVESTMENT, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT TWO FEDERAL GRANT PROGRAMS ARE CURRENTLY OPEN WITH APPLICATION DEADLINES AT THE END OF JUNE 2025, THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 LAW ENFORCEMENT MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS ACT PROGRAM, WHICH FUNDS OFFICER WELLNESS, PEER SUPPORT, BURNOUT PREVENTION, AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 COMMUNITY POLICING DEPARTMENT, A DEVELOPMENT MICRO GRANT, SPECIFICALLY THE OFFICER RECRUITMENT, HIRING AND RETENTION CATEGORY, WHICH FUNDS INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS FOR BOOSTING MORALE, RETENTION AND ORGANIZATIONAL RESILIENCE. THESE GRANTS ARE HIGHLY RELEVANT TO THE WORK PROPOSED IN THE LION INSTITUTE CONTRACT, AND COULD FULLY OFFSET THE $85,000 COST AND POTENTIALLY PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING. IMPORTANTLY, BOTH GRANT PROGRAMS REQUIRE NO LOCAL MATCH AND ARE STRUCTURED TO FUND EXACTLY THIS KIND OF PROACTIVE INVESTMENT IN OFFICER WELLNESS AND DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT CULTURE. THEREFORE, IF THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THIS AGREEMENT TONIGHT, I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO INCLUDE DIRECTION TO THE CITY STAFF TO IMMEDIATELY PURSUE THE AVAILABLE FEDERAL GRANTS BEFORE JUNE DEADLINE, UNLESS YOU'VE ALREADY DONE SO TO SECURE OUTSIDE FUNDING AND MAXIMIZE THE RETURN ON THIS INITIATIVE. THESE FUNDS ARE MEANT FOR AGENCIES LIKE OURS DOING THE RIGHT THING, INVESTING IN PEOPLE, AND PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE. I THANK YOU AGAIN TO OUR OFFICERS AND THANK YOU TO CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONTINUED LEADERSHIP IN THESE ISSUES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THERE'S NOBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING ON CONSENT. WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING ON CONSENT? OKAY. WITH THAT COUNCIL, WE'RE GONNA BE CONSIDERING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS NINE THROUGH 23. THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION. AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE AGENDA A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER, SEEING AS HOW WE HAVE 
          [26. Receive a presentation from Sam Heinz, of Public Sector Personnel Consultants, Inc., and consider action on the findings and recommendations for the Fiscal Year 2025 Compensation Study; providing for an effective date of June 28, 2025; and authorize the City Manager to execute any and all necessary documents.]
MANY OF OUR PUBLIC EMERGENCY SERVICES PERSONNEL WITH US, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD TO 
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ITEM 26, RECEIVE A PRESENTATION ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE COMPENSATION STUDY. ARE WE ALL RIGHT WITH THAT? ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ITEM 26. RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM SAM HINES OF PUBLIC SECTOR PERSONNEL CONSULTANTS, INCORPORATED, AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 COMPENSATION STUDY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF JUNE 28TH, 2025, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. CITY MANAGER BARTON, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. YOU LOOK VERY DIFFERENT TODAY. I DO. DID YOU HAVE ANY WORDS? OKAY, GREAT. HI, I'M SAM HINES. I'M WITH PUBLIC SECTOR PERSONNEL CONSULTANTS. GOOD EVENING. VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. JUST TO DISCUSS THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE SALARY SURVEY THAT WE COMPLETED RECENTLY FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER. JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR FIRM AND WHY WE THINK WE'RE QUALIFIED TO DO THIS WORK. 
          SBCC SPECIALIZES IN SALARY SURVEY AND BENEFIT SURVEYS FOR PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYERS. WE'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS A LITTLE OVER 40 YEARS, AND OVER THAT TIME, WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH A LITTLE OVER 1100 PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYERS. WE'VE RECENTLY COMPLETED SOME PROJECTS FOR CITIES KIND OF WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY, INCLUDING THE CITIES OF PFLUGERVILLE, CEDAR PARK, LIBERTY HILL, JUST TO NAME A FEW. SO THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERY JOB, BUT JUST THAT WE'RE QUALIFIED TO ASK THE RIGHT TYPES OF QUESTIONS, AND THAT WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE LABOR MARKET THAT EXISTS WITHIN THIS REGION. THE SALARY SURVEY SCOPE. 
          SO THIS PROCESS KIND OF BEGAN AROUND THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY. WE HAD SOME WORK TO DO. SO OUR FIRST TASK WAS JUST TO BEGIN THINKING ABOUT OUR SURVEY COMPARATORS. WE THEN IDENTIFIED BENCHMARK POSITIONS. FROM THERE, WE MOVED INTO PERFORMING THE SURVEY. WE MET WITH CITY STAFF TO DISCUSS SALARY, SCHEDULE, DESIGN AND THEN USING THE SURVEY DATA. ASSIGNED EACH POSITION TO A RANGE ON YOUR SALARY SCHEDULE THAT IS A MARKET SENSITIVE RANGE. FROM THERE WE DID AN ANALYSIS OF INTERNAL ALIGNMENT, AND WE'LL KIND OF GO MORE IN DEPTH ON THESE THINGS. AND THEN FINALLY WE PROVIDED A FISCAL IMPACT. SO WHAT IS IT GOING TO COST TO ADOPT THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES THAT WILL HELP TO KEEP THE CITY OF LEANDER COMPETITIVE IN THE LABOR MARKETPLACE. SO AGAIN, THIS PROCESS KIND OF BEGAN IN FEBRUARY. WE'VE BEEN WORKING SINCE THEN WITH YOUR CITY STAFF, WITH HUMAN RESOURCES, AND WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH SOME OF THESE ITEMS. IN FEBRUARY IS WHEN WE MET WITH THE CITY TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT TIMELINE AND GOALS. WE CONFIRMED THOSE COMPARATOR AGENCIES. SO THOSE ARE THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE GATHERED. SOME OF THE SURVEY DATA FROM, KIND OF AT THE END OF MARCH WAS WHEN THE SURVEY WAS COMPLETED, AND WE DISCUSSED THE PAY PLAN DESIGN. SO THINKING ABOUT HOW WE WANTED TO USE THE DATA AND APPLY THE DATA ONTO YOUR SALARY SCHEDULES AND ONTO YOUR PAY PLANS TO ENSURE THAT THE JOBS REMAIN COMPETITIVE WITHIN THE MARKETPLACE. AND THEN KIND OF HERE AT THE END OF MAY, PROVIDING A COST ESTIMATE FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW PAY PLAN AND PRESENTATION TO YOU ALL THIS EVENING. SO OUR FIRST STEP WAS THE MARKET SURVEY AND ANALYSIS OF EXTERNAL COMPETITIVENESS. WHEN THINKING ABOUT THE COMPETITIVE MARKETPLACE, WE WANTED TO INCLUDE EMPLOYERS THAT THE CITY COMPETES WITH TO OBTAIN AND RETAIN QUALIFIED EMPLOYEES. SO SOME OF THE CITIES THAT ARE WITHIN THE MIX ARE SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THE REGIONAL AREA, THAT ARE MAYBE PLACES THAT YOUR FOLKS COMMUTE THROUGH OR DRIVE TO ON THEIR WAY TO WORK. SOME OF THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE IN PART OF THE COMPARATOR GROUP AS WELL ARE CITIES THAT OFFER SIMILAR TYPES OF SERVICES OR HAVE SIMILAR CHARACTERISTICS AS THE CITY OF LEANDER. SO WITHIN THE COMPARATOR GROUP, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE KIND OF ON ALSO ON THE OUTSIDE OF A METROPLEX, KIND OF LIKE YOU GUYS ARE SITUATED TO AUSTIN. WHEN THINKING ABOUT THE SURVEY COMPARATORS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE'RE COMPARING THE JOBS AND NOT NECESSARILY THE EMPLOYERS. SO YOU WILL SEE SOME CITIES THAT ARE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER OR A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN THE CITY OF LEANDER, BUT REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING ARE FOR ARE LIKE JOBS FROM THESE COMPARATOR ORGANIZATIONS. WE SOLICITED THEIR PAY PLANS, ORGANIZATIONAL CHARTS AND JOB DESCRIPTIONS TO AID IN THE PROCESS OF JOB MATCHING. WE NEVER WANT TO ASSUME THAT A JOB TITLE IS 100% REFLECTIVE OF THE JOB. WE DON'T MATCH JOB TITLE TO JOB TITLE, BUT JOB DUTY TO JOB DUTY. AND SO WE DIG IN AT THE JOB DESCRIPTION LEVEL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FINDING THE MOST ANALOGOUS MATCH FOR POSITIONS THAT DO HAVE A PRIVATE SECTOR EQUIVALENT. SO THINKING ABOUT LIKE YOUR LABOR TRADES, YOUR CLERICAL TYPES OF ROLES, WE ALSO DID INCORPORATE PRIVATE SECTOR DATA FROM THE ECONOMIC RESEARCH INSTITUTE, WHICH IS A DATABASE THAT WE PAY TO HAVE ACCESS TO. AND IT KIND OF AMALGAMATES PRIVATE SECTOR DATA BASED ON A REGIONAL AREA. AND SO WE WERE FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO GET DATA FOR THE LEANDER REGION. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE LIST OF THE 16 COMPARATOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE STUDY. 16 CITIES, IN ADDITION TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR INFORMATION, THESE COMPARATORS 
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WERE DISCUSSED AND APPROVED WITH CITY STAFF. IT'S A PARTIALLY A LIST OF HISTORICAL COMPARATORS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE USED IN THE PAST. WHEN YOU DO YOUR OWN INTERNAL SURVEYING, AND THEN A FEW CITIES THAT ARE SIMILARLY SITUATED TO A METROPLEX, KIND OF LIKE YOU GUYS ARE IN RELATION TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN. SO YOU'LL SEE SOME CITIES IN THERE THAT ARE KIND OF ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE DFW METROPLEX AND THE HOUSTON METROPLEX, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE CITIES THAT ARE USED AS THE MARKET COMPETITORS ARE ONES THAT ARE KIND OF WITHIN THE REGIONAL AREA. SO AFTER WE IDENTIFIED THE SURVEY COMPARATORS, WE SELECTED THE BENCHMARK POSITION. SO CURRENTLY YOU GUYS HAVE AROUND 254 UNIQUE POSITION TITLES. SOME OF THE TITLES ARE DUPLICATIVE OR WHERE THEY'RE KIND OF MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC THAN THEY NEED TO BE. BUT WE WANTED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE JOBS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIND COMMONLY AT THESE OTHER EMPLOYER AGENCIES. SO WE ENDED UP COLLECTING DATA FOR 150 OUT OF 254 POSITIONS, OR 60% OF JOBS. 
          TYPICALLY, WHEN YOU DO A SALARY SURVEY, YOU STRIVE TO KIND OF BENCHMARK 50 TO 60% OF THE POSITION. SO WE WERE RIGHT ON MARK THERE. WHEN WE DO OUR MATCHING, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A PERFECT MATCH. YOU KNOW, SOME ORGANIZATIONS ARE GOING TO DIVIDE THEIR LABOR A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, OR MAYBE HAVE SOME COMPONENTS OF A JOB THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. BUT REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ARE SIMILARITY IN THE KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS AND ABILITIES. AND AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE DIG IN AT THE JOB DESCRIPTION LEVEL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING THE CORRECT MATCH. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE NOT EVERY JOB IS GOING TO BE A BENCHMARK POSITION. YOU GUYS HAVE SOME JOBS THAT ARE MAYBE UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF LEANDER. MAYBE YOU GUYS PROVIDE SOME SERVICES THAT OTHER CITIES DON'T OFFER. OR MAYBE YOU HAVE A UNIQUE DIVISION OF LABOR. 
          THINKING ABOUT THE WAY THAT AN ORGANIZATION IS KIND OF FORMED. SO AFTER IDENTIFYING THE SURVEY COMPARATORS AND SOLICITING THAT PAY PLAN INFORMATION, WE BEGAN KIND OF COMPILING SOME WORKSHEETS, WHICH WE'LL REVIEW ON THE NEXT SLIDE. FOR OUR ANALYSIS, WE DID TRADITIONAL MIDPOINT TO MIDPOINT ANALYSIS. WE USE THE MIDPOINT OF A RANGE TO COMPARE BECAUSE IT'S THE ONE STATIC PART OF A PAY RANGE ACROSS THESE DIFFERENT COMPARATOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE CAN COMPARE TO. SO SOME ORGANIZATIONS MAY HAVE REALLY WIDE RANGES OR REALLY NARROW RANGES. AND THE MIDPOINT IS KIND OF THE ONE STATIC PART OF A PAY GRADE THAT WE CAN COMPARE ACROSS THESE DIFFERENT ENTITIES. THIS IS THE TRADITIONAL METHOD OF SURVEY DATA APPLICATION WITHIN THE PUBLIC SECTOR. SO HERE ON THIS SLIDE HERE YOU CAN SEE AN EXAMPLE OF A BENCHMARK SURVEY WORKSHEET. SO THIS IS KIND OF THE WORK PRODUCT THAT WE TURNED INTO THE CITY. WE PRODUCED 150 OF THESE KIND OF AT THIS TOP LEFT HAND CORNER YOU CAN SEE THE JOB TITLE THAT WE ARE GATHERING SURVEY INFORMATION FOR. AS YOU MOVE RIGHTWARD ON THE SHEET YOU CAN SEE THE POSITIONS THAT IT'S BEING MATCHED TO. SO WE'RE NOT ALWAYS MATCHING JOB TITLE TO JOB TITLE. AND SOME ORGANIZATIONS THE MORE ANALOGOUS POSITION MAY BE TITLED DIFFERENTLY. CONTINUING RIGHTWARD, YOU CAN SEE THE COMPARATOR ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR CASE IT WOULD BE THOSE 16 ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE JUST REVIEWED OR ON THE COMPARATOR SHEET. CONTINUING RIGHTWARD, YOU CAN SEE THE MIDPOINT. SO THIS WOULD BE THE LEANDER MIDPOINT IN RELATION TO THE MARKET MIDPOINT. 
          FOR POSITIONS THAT JUST HAVE A PUBLIC SECTOR EQUIVALENT. SO THINKING ABOUT YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY ROLES, SOME JOBS THAT MAYBE DON'T EXIST IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WE WOULD JUST BE COMPARING THE PUBLIC SECTOR AVERAGE MIDPOINT IN RELATION TO YOUR EXISTING MIDPOINT. WE HAVE THAT VARIANCE EXPRESSED IN TERMS OF A RAW DOLLAR AMOUNT AND AS A PERCENTAGE FOR POSITIONS THAT DO HAVE A PRIVATE SECTOR EQUIVALENT, WE WOULD INCLUDE THE PUBLIC SECTOR AVERAGE PLUS THE PRIVATE SECTOR AVERAGE TO DIVIDE BY TWO TO GET THE TO GET THE PREVAILING MARKET RATE. SO FOR POSITIONS THAT DO HAVE A PRIVATE SECTOR EQUIVALENT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET SURVEY DATA FOR, IT WOULD BE THE PUBLIC SECTOR AVERAGE PLUS THE PRIVATE SECTOR AVERAGE DIVIDED BY TWO. SO THOSE ARE BOTH WEIGHTED AT 50%. HERE WE HAVE A CHART OF THE SALARY SURVEY FINDINGS. SO THIS IS THE LEANDER MIDPOINTS IN RELATION TO THE SURVEY AVERAGE MIDPOINT FOR THE MAJORITY OF YOUR POSITIONS. 
          YOU GUYS ARE ACTUALLY DOING REALLY WELL IN RELATION TO THE COMPETITIVE MARKETPLACE. 63% OF YOUR POSITIONS HAVE A MIDPOINT THAT'S POSITIONED MORE THAN 5% AHEAD OF THE MARKET. 24% OF YOUR POSITIONS ARE WITHIN A COMPETITIVE RANGE, PLUS OR -5%. AND THEN YOU GUYS HAD 13% OF YOUR ROLES THAT WE WOULD CHARACTERIZE AS BEING BEHIND MARKET. AND THE MAJORITY OF THESE POSITIONS TENDED TO BE IN YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS AND THEN AS WELL AS IN PARKS AND LIBRARY. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, YOU GUYS ARE DOING REALLY GOOD WITH THE MIDPOINTS THAT ARE IN PLACE FOR YOUR JOBS. HERE ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN JUST SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED 
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INFORMATION. YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE VARIANCES FOR THOSE THAT WERE BELOW MARKET, FOR THOSE THAT ARE AT MARKET AND ABOVE MARKET. ONE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THIS INCLUDES SOME OF YOUR DIRECTOR AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR LEVEL POSITIONS. THOSE ARE COMMONLY PAID AT A FLAT RATE. SO WE JUST HAVE THE PREVAILING FLAT RATE FOR THOSE. AND WE APPLIED THAT DATA A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. SO AFTER WE HAD GATHERED THE 150 BENCHMARK WORKSHEETS, WE HAD THE TASK OF APPLYING THE DATA ONTO YOUR SALARY SCHEDULE. SO WE WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY ABOUT THE SALARY SCHEDULE. DESIGN. THE CITY OF LEANDER CURRENTLY MAINTAINS A SALARY SCHEDULE AS THE FOLLOWING PARAMETERS. YOU GUYS HAVE 17 RANGES AS YOU GO DOWN THE CHART FROM RANGE 1 TO 2, 2 TO 3, IT TENDS TO INCREASE BY 10%, WITH ONE EXCEPTION. FROM RANGES 4 TO 5, IT INCREASES BY 5%, BUT THERE IS A PREVAILING PATTERN OF A 10% INCREASE AS YOU KIND OF GO DOWN THE CHART. AND THEN THERE'S A 60% RANGE WIDTH FROM MINIMUM TO MAXIMUM. SO IF YOU WERE IN RANGE ONE AND YOU STARTED OFF AT THAT ENTRY RATE, AND LET'S SAY YOU MAXED OUT YOUR, YOUR PAY WOULD BE 60% HIGHER THAN THAT STARTING RATE. OVER THE COURSE OF THE SURVEY, WE KIND OF IDENTIFIED THAT PERHAPS THE SALARY SCHEDULE RANGES ARE TOO WIDE, 60% IS A LITTLE BIT WIDER THAN WE COMMONLY SEE IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR. AND SO WE DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY SOME OPTIONS TO KIND OF NARROW THE RANGE WIDTH. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS GOING TO MAINTAIN THE SAME NUMBER OF RANGES, THE SAME INCREASE AS YOU MOVE DOWN THE SALARY SCHEDULE. BUT WE WANT TO KIND OF SHRINK THE RANGE WIDTH SO THAT YOUR MINIMUMS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPETITIVE, AND THAT THE CITY IS AT LESS AT RISK OF OVERPAYING FOR JOBS THAT ARE AT THE MAX. SO BY NARROWING THE RANGE WIDTH, IT HELPS TO MAKE THE CITY MORE COMPETITIVE AND IT HELPS TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF FOCUS AS YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO ADMINISTER SALARIES WITHIN THE ASSIGNED RANGE. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED SALARY SCHEDULE FOR YOUR GENERAL SERVICE POSITIONS. THE MIDPOINTS REMAIN THE SAME. 
          WE'VE JUST SIMPLY NARROWED THAT RANGE WIDTH FROM 60% TO 45%. THE OTHER PATTERNS THAT WERE ALREADY EVIDENT WITHIN THE SALARY SCHEDULE CONTINUE TO EXIST. IN ORDER TO ASSIGN POSITIONS TO A RANGE, THE METHOD IS TO IDENTIFY THE RANGE WHOSE MIDPOINT IS CLOSEST TO THE MARKET AVERAGE MIDPOINT. SO, THINKING ABOUT THOSE 150 BENCHMARK POSITIONS, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE PREVAILING MARKET AVERAGE MIDPOINT AND THEN IDENTIFYING THE RANGE ON THE SALARY SCHEDULE WHOSE MIDPOINT IS CLOSEST TO THE MARKET AVERAGE MIDPOINT. SO HERE IN THIS EXAMPLE THIS IS JUST A MADE UP EXAMPLE NOT PERTINENT TO THE CITY, BUT JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW WE APPLY THE DATA, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE MARKET AVERAGE MIDPOINT FOR THIS ROLE WAS 46,899. LOOKING AT THAT, I WOULD HAVE A FORMULA RUNNING THAT TELLS ME, HEY, THIS IS CLOSEST TO THE MIDPOINT OF RANGE SIX. 
          LET'S ASSIGN THIS POSITION TO RANGE SIX. SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR FIRST TASK OR FIRST STEP IN DOING RANGE ASSIGNMENTS. THE NEXT KIND OF PORTION IS A REVIEW OF INTERNAL EQUITY AND INTERNAL ALIGNMENT. SO WE ALWAYS USE THE SURVEY DATA AS OUR PRIMARY GUIDE FOR RANGE PLACEMENT. BUT WE ALSO WANT TO CONSIDER HOW POSITIONS RELATE TO ONE ANOTHER WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. SO WHAT THIS KIND OF LOOKS LIKE ARE KIND OF TENDS TO LOOK LIKE IS THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE AN EQUIPMENT OPERATOR IN PARKS AND AN EQUIPMENT OPERATOR IN PUBLIC WORKS. MAYBE THE SURVEY DATA COMES BACK AND SUGGESTS ONE IS IN A FIVE AND ONE IS IN A SIX. DURING THE REVIEW OF INTERNAL EQUITY, WE MIGHT SAY, HEY, THE CITY VALUES THESE TWO JOBS. SIMILARLY, LET'S PUT THEM BOTH IN RANGE SIX. SO JUST FACILITATING THOSE SORTS OF CONVERSATIONS, THERE WEREN'T TOO MANY JOBS THAT MOVED AS A RESULT OF THIS CONVERSATION, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO JUST TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S INTERNAL ALIGNMENT AMONG LIKE JOBS WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NO POSITIONS HAVE MOVED BACKWARD AT THE MIDPOINT AS A RESULT OF THE STUDY. SO YOU GUYS HAD A LOT OF POSITIONS THAT WERE ALREADY COMPETITIVE OR AHEAD OF THE MARKET FOR THOSE JOBS. NO ONE EVER MOVES BACKWARDS, BUT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY RETAIN THE RANGE UNTIL THE MARKET CATCHES UP TO THOSE JOBS. SO THAT WAS THE PROCESS FOR YOUR GENERAL SERVICE POSITIONS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, THE CITY CURRENTLY MAINTAINS A GRADIENT STEP SALARY SCHEDULE. WE MET SEVERAL TIMES WITH THE CITY TO DISCUSS KIND OF THE MERITS OF REDESIGNING THOSE GRADIENT STEP SALARY SCHEDULES FOR YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, AGAIN, KIND OF KEEPING IN MIND THAT METRIC THAT WE'RE USING FOR YOUR GENERAL SERVICE POSITIONS OF BEING COMPETITIVE AT THE MIDPOINT. SO USING THAT PLUS OR -5% RANGE TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT HOW WE WANTED TO DESIGN THE STEP SCHEDULE SO THAT YOU GUYS WERE COMPETITIVE AT ENTRY MIDPOINT AND AT MAX. SO WE TALKED ABOUT INCREASING DECREASING NUMBER OF STEPS, INCREASING OR DECREASING STEP PERCENTS, AND THEN 
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INCREASING OR DECREASING THE PERCENT BETWEEN RANKS AS YOU GUYS MAYBE PROGRESS THROUGH A CAREER FAMILY. IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY, THE AGREED APPROACH WAS TO TRY AND CREATE SOME PARITY IN THE PAY STRUCTURES FOR POLICE AND FIRE. CURRENTLY, THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES THAT EXIST, AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO TRY AND CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF EQUITABILITY IN THE DESIGN, MAKING THIS STEP INCREASE AMOUNT THE SAME FOR POLICE AND FIRE. CURRENTLY ONE DEPARTMENT GETS A 2% STEP INCREASE AND THE OTHER HAS 2.5%. AND THEN MAKING THE NUMBER OF STEPS FOR LINE LEVEL OFFICERS AND YOUR FIREFIGHTERS THE SAME. SO TRYING TO BRING THE DESIGN OF THE GRADIENT STEP STRUCTURES INTO ALIGNMENT, OR JUST TRYING TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF PARITY THERE. AGAIN, KIND OF REFERRING TO THOSE SURVEY RESULTS. THE MAJORITY OF THE POSITIONS THAT SURVEYED BEHIND MARKET ARE IN PUBLIC SAFETY. SO WE DID SURVEY SEVEN OUT OF THE SEVEN SWORN FIRE POSITIONS, AND THEY ALL CAME BACK BEHIND MARKET. THE PROPOSED STEP PLAN ALIGNS ALL RANKS TO WITHIN PLUS OR -5% OF THE MARKET AVERAGE MIDPOINT. SO ENSURING THAT YOU GUYS ARE COMPETITIVE AT THE AT THE JOURNEY LEVEL OF RATE FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES, AS WELL AS THINKING ABOUT BEING COMPETITIVE AT ENTERING AT TOP OUT SOME OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DOWN IN THE WEEDS, BUT JUST WANTED TO INCLUDE THIS AS INFORMATION, INCREASING THE PERCENT CHANGE FROM FIREFIGHTER TO FIRE DRIVER FROM 10% TO 15%. CURRENTLY, AS YOU GO UP THE RANK STRUCTURE WITHIN FIRE, YOU GO UP BY 10% EACH RANK. THE SURVEY KIND OF INDICATED THAT THE MARKET FOR FIRE ENGINEER, FIRE DRIVER, YOU GUYS COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A LARGER INCREASE THERE. THE SECOND CHANGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IS DECREASING THE PERCENT INCREASE FROM BATTALION CHIEF TO DIVISION CHIEF. SO WITHIN THE MARKETPLACE, THESE TWO JOBS KIND OF TEND TO BE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE SIMILAR THAN DIFFERENT. AND SO THE MARKET SURVEY KIND OF INDICATED, HEY, MAYBE INSTEAD OF HAVING A 10% INCREASE, JUST A 5% INCREASE. SO MAKING SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS THERE, WE ALSO REMOVED A FEW STEPS FROM THE FIREFIGHTER AND FIRE DRIVER RANKS, AND THEN ADDED ONE STEP TO THE END OF ALL RANKS, RESULTING IN 15 TOTAL STEPS FOR FIREFIGHTER, WHICH MIRRORS THE SAME NUMBER OF STEPS FOR YOUR POLICE OFFICERS. AFTER DISCUSSING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE MOVED ON TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AGAIN. WE SURVEYED ALL OF THE SWORN RANK POSITIONS AND THEY ALL CAME BACK BEHIND MARKET. SO, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN -5%. SO -10%, -15%. THOSE WERE ALL KIND OF BEHIND MARKET. AND YOU GUYS I BELIEVE, HAD TAKEN SOME STEPS LAST YEAR TO KIND OF MAYBE BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPETITIVE AT ENTRY FOR YOUR POLICE. SO POLICE ON THE WHOLE TENDED TO ALTHOUGH THEY WERE STILL BEHIND MARKET, THEY WEREN'T AS BEHIND THE MARKET AS YOU'RE FIRED PERSONNEL. OUR PROPOSED STEP PLAN AGAIN IT ALIGNS ALL RANKS TO WITHIN PLUS OR -5% OF THE MARKET AVERAGE MIDPOINT. SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING ARE TO MOVE THE ASSISTANT POLICE CHIEF FROM THE STEP PLAN TO THE OPEN RANGE SALARY SCHEDULE. YOU GUYS CURRENTLY EXISTS ON BOTH VERSIONS RIGHT NOW ON THE OPEN RANGE AND ON THE STEPS SCHEDULE. SO JUST KIND OF CLARIFYING THAT AND MOVING IT TO THE OPEN RANGE SALARY SCHEDULE. THEN WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO ESTABLISH A FIXED DISTANCE BETWEEN THE RANKS OF 10%. CURRENTLY IT'S VARIABLE AS YOU GO FROM LIKE OFFICER TO CORPORAL, CORPORAL TO SERGEANT, SERGEANT TO LIEUTENANT. SO WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THERE'S THAT 10% INCREASE AS YOU GO UP THE RANK STRUCTURE, WHICH WILL HELP TO ENSURE OR TO KIND OF INCENTIVIZE PROMOTIONS. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO CHANGING THE STEP INCREASE AMOUNT FROM 2% TO 2.5% TO MIRROR THE STEP INCREASE AMOUNT AS FOUND ON THE FIRE PAY PLAN. HERE WE HAVE THE COST ESTIMATE. SO FOR YOUR GENERAL SERVICE EMPLOYEES, THOSE ARE FOR THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE SLOTTED ONTO THAT SALARY SCHEDULE THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER. THAT'S BEEN NARROWED TO THAT 45% RANGE WITH THE ESTIMATED COST IS 167,500, OR 167, $593, OR 0.81% OF CURRENT PAYROLL. IT AFFECTS 67 OUT OF 313 EMPLOYEES. THE PRIMARY COST COMES FROM EMPLOYEES WHOSE CURRENT SALARY IS BELOW THE PROPOSED RANGE MINIMUM, SO THE COST COMES TO GET THEM UP TO THAT. THE MINIMUM OF THEIR PROPOSED RANGE. 
          ASSIGNMENT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. HERE'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND THE MAJORITY OF YOUR MONEY. THE ESTIMATED ANNUAL COST IS $1,140,376, OR AROUND 17.91% OF CURRENT PAYROLL. THIS WOULD AFFECT EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE WITHIN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND THEN FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. OUR ESTIMATED ANNUAL COST IS AROUND $590,000, OR 9% OF CURRENT PAYROLL. AND 
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AGAIN, THAT AFFECTS EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE, EVERY SWORN OFFICER WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT. THE ESTIMATED COST FOR ALL EMPLOYEES IS 1,000,896, $400,427, OR 5% OF YOUR CURRENT PAYROLL. AND SO THESE ARE HYPER TARGETED ADJUSTMENTS TO YOUR SALARY SCHEDULE AND TO YOUR PAY PLAN THAT WILL ALLOW YOU GUYS TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE WITHIN THE COMPETITIVE MARKETPLACE IN WHICH YOU EXIST, AND THEN KIND OF GET YOU UP TO SPEED IN RELATION TO HOW SOME OF THESE OTHER COMPETITOR EMPLOYEES ARE PAYING. SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSED STEPS WOULD BE TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED SALARY SCHEDULE SO THAT NEW SALARY SCHEDULE THAT HAS THE 45% RANGE WITH TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED RANGE ASSIGNMENT FOR EACH POSITION, WHICH YOU GUYS SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IN YOUR PACKETS, AND THEN TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED FIRE STEP PLAN AND THE PROPOSED POLICE STEP PLAN. 
          WITH THAT BEING SAID, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE SURVEY ABOUT THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS? THANK YOU. COUNCIL QUESTIONS? COMMENTS ONLY. OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF JUNE 28TH, 2025. MAYOR. THERE'S A ONE ADDITION TO THE FIRE SCHEDULE THE ADDITION OF THE CADET FOR THE EMT THAT IS ON YOUR SHEET. I KNOW THAT THIS. IT'S OKAY, SO I NEED TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION AND MAKE IT WITH. YOU CAN JUST CORRECT. JUST ADD THE ADDITION OF THAT OKAY. FIRE SCHEDULE WITH THAT INCLUDED OKAY. WITH THE ADDITION OF THE CADET EMT TO THE FIRE SCHEDULE. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE SEE IF THERE'S A SECOND FIRST BEFORE DISCUSSION I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER. CORRECT. SO AND I GUESS I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S A QUESTION FOR YOU FOR HR OR THE CITY MANAGER, BUT SO HOW OFTEN WOULD WE DO A SALARY STUDY LIKE THIS. SO LIKE ARE WE GOING TO REVISIT THIS NEXT YEAR. AND EVERYBODY ELSE GAVE RAISES AND WE'RE GOING TO GO CYCLE. HOW DOES THIS WORK. SO TYPICALLY A CITY MIGHT SURVEY LIKE EVERY 3 TO 5 YEARS DEPENDING ON TURNOVER. TYPICALLY WE SAY TO CITIES TO ADMINISTER PAY WITHIN THE ESTABLISHED SALARY RANGE IN THE INTERVENING YEARS. SO THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE APPLYING A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT TO THE SALARY AND NOT TO THE SALARY SCHEDULE ITSELF, SO THAT FOLKS ARE OBTAINING RANGE PENETRATION WITHIN THE ESTABLISHED RANGE. 
          AND THEN DOING A SURVEY, YOU KNOW, EVERY 3 TO 5 YEARS JUST TO KIND OF SEE WHERE YOU'RE MISSING THE MARK AND WHERE YOU'RE WHERE YOU TEND TO BE DOING FINE. TYPICALLY, WHAT WE FIND IN THE LABOR MARKET IS THAT CERTAIN PROFESSIONS MOVE DIFFERENTLY OR A LITTLE BIT MORE QUICKLY THAN OTHERS. SO KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU USE A UNIFORM APPROACH YEAR OVER YEAR IS THAT YOU END UP OVERDOING IT FOR SOME AND UNDER DOING IT FOR OTHERS, AND THE SURVEY KIND OF HELPS TO CAPTURE WHERE YOU'RE MISSING THE MARK AND THEN GETTING THOSE FOLKS UP TO A COMPETITIVE RATE. 
          AND SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU DO THIS I KNOW THIS IS ALL JUST SALARY. WE ALSO LOOK AT BENEFITS. IS THAT ACTUALLY FACTORED INTO ANY OF THIS. OR WE DID LOOK AT BENEFITS BUT WE DIDN'T LIKE TIE IT TO A MONETARY VALUE. SO THERE ARE SOME FINDINGS OF THE BENEFITS SURVEY AS WELL THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY PRIMARILY RELATED TO, I BELIEVE, YOUR HOLIDAY SCHEDULE AND A FEW OTHER ITEMS. THAT IS NOT A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION TODAY, BUT WE HAVE BEEN IN ENGAGEMENT WITH THE CITY ABOUT THE BENEFITS SURVEY. SO WILL WE EXPECT TO SEE SOMETHING COMING BACK ABOUT BENEFITS DOWN THE ROAD, OR IS THAT HOW. THAT'S SURE. YEAH, WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE. SO HOWEVER THAT WANTS TO BE SHARED WITH COUNCIL. WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK ON THAT OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. YOU GUYS TENDED TO BE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ARE OFFERING. BUT THERE WERE A FEW AREAS WHERE YOU WERE LAGGING A LITTLE BIT AND THAT TENDED TO BE LIKE YOUR VACATION DAYS, I BELIEVE, AND THE NUMBER OF HOLIDAYS OFFERED. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS. SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO JUST THANK THE CITY MANAGER FOR DOING THIS. 
          I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO QUITE A FEW OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS OUT IN THE ROOM AND ASKED THEM EVEN ABOUT THIS AGENDA ITEM COMING BEFORE US TONIGHT AND WHAT THEY THOUGHT ABOUT IT. AND IT'S FUNNY, THE FIRST THING THAT HAPPENED IS ACTUALLY THEY'D GET A SMILE ON THEIR FACE AND THEN THEY'D SPEAK BECAUSE THEY'RE PRETTY EXCITED. THIS IS A BIG DEAL, BEING 15% BELOW THE MIDPOINT RANGE FOR THE FOR THESE CITIES THAT WE'RE COMPARED TO, THAT'S A BIG DEAL. 
          SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU GUYS, WE SUPPORT YOU. YOU'RE SUPPORTED BY YOUR COUNCIL. YOU'RE SUPPORTED BY YOUR CITY LEADERSHIP. YOU'RE SUPPORTED BY THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. AND THANK YOU, CARLOS AND BRAD, FOR GETTING YOUR PEOPLE TO COME OUT TONIGHT. 
          BECAUSE TO ME, THIS IS A BIG DEAL. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CELEBRATED. SO I APPRECIATE THEM COMING OUT AND ALLOWING US TO DO THIS PUBLICLY FOR THEM. ANOTHER OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT UP TO THE MID-RANGE MID RANGE. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A GOOD THING 
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FOR OUR CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RETAIN PEOPLE. WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TRAINING YOU GUYS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RETAIN YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE PERMANENT MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. BUT, TODD, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS ON AND MAKING SURE IT GOT DONE. KRISTY. THANK YOU AS WELL. THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. 
          THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL VERY MUCH. SO I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE GOING TO START EXITING. WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS COMING UP, AND THERE'S SEVERAL OF YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS SO YOU CAN STRETCH BEFORE WE GET INTO THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS. THE TIME IS 811. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION AT 8:21 P.M. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE TONIGHT AND US TAKING THINGS OUT OF ORDER. A COUPLE OF DISCLAIMERS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. JUST LIKE AT COURT OR AT THE SENATE HEARINGS HAVE DECORUM RULES. SO WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE MINUTES. YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN WHAT YOU WANT TO TELL US, WE CANNOT TALK BACK TO YOU. THERE ARE SOME LITTLE LIGHTS UP HERE, GREEN, YELLOW AND RED WHEN IT TURNS YELLOW. THANK YOU, LOVELY ROBIN. WHEN IT TURNS YELLOW, THAT'S YOUR WARNING THAT YOUR TIME IS ABOUT TO BE UP. WE TRY. ONCE IT HITS RED AND YOU GET THE DINGER, YOU NEED TO CUT IT OFF TO KEEP IT FAIR TO EVERYBODY. WE'RE GOING TO ASK ALSO THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING, BOOING, OR YELLING OUT FROM THE SEATS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HEAR EVERY SPEAKER AND 
          [24. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding the Barksdale Phase 3 Annexation Case A-25-0022 for the voluntary annexation of 48.96 acres ± in size; more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R338810, R407805 and R407804; and generally located at the northwest corner of Journey Parkway and CR 175, Leander, Williamson,Texas.  Discuss and consider action regarding Annexation Case A-25-0022 as described above.]
ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS NEED TO BE INTO THAT MICROPHONE, BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC RECORD. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO ITEM 24, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE BARKSDALE PHASE THREE ANNEXATION CASE. A-250022 FOR THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF 48.96 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. GRIFFIN. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE BARKSDALE PHASE THREE ANNEXATION REQUEST. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF JOURNEY PARKWAY AND CR 175. THIS PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO AN ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THIS AGREEMENT WAS ENTERED INTO IN 2017, AND THE POINT OF THE AGREEMENT IS ONCE THEY'RE READY TO REDEVELOP, THEY'LL ANNEX INTO THE CITY SO THEY'RE ALLOWED TO REMAIN IN AG STATUS. THIS ITEM DOES NOT ANNEX THE PROPERTY INTO THE CITY LIMITS. THIS IS ONLY THE FIRST READING IN A PUBLIC HEARING, SO THAT ACTION WOULD BE TAKEN AT THE NEXT MEETING. AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DOES THE DEVELOPER HAVE A PRESENTATION? HE'S HERE FOR QUESTIONS. HE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE ZONING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WITH THAT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. I HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON JUST THIS ONE, PRASHANT PONDY. ON HUDSON LANE. NOPE. ALL RIGHT. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. WE'LL NOW DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ANNEXATION. CASE A-25002. AS PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED. COUNCIL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ITEM 25 
          [25. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Comprehensive Plan Case CPA-25-0017 to amend the Comprehensive Plan land use category from Neighborhood Center and Neighborhood Residential to Neighborhood Residential and conduct a public hearing regarding Zoning Case Z-25-0166 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to SFC-2-A (Single-Family Compact), SFU-2-A (Single-Family Urban), and SFS-2-A (Single-Family Suburban) on three (3) parcels of land 52.92 acres ± in size; more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R338810, R407804 and R407805; and generally located at the northwest corner of Journey Parkway and CR 175, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.  Discuss and consider action regarding Comprehensive Plan Case CPA-25-0017 as described above.Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-25-0166 as described above.]
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CASE CPA DASH 25 0017 TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE CATEGORY FROM NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AND NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AND CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ZONING CASE Z DASH 20 5-0166 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR ONE B SINGLE FAMILY RURAL TO SFC TWO A SINGLE FAMILY COMPACT, SFR TO A SINGLE FAMILY. URBAN AND SFS TWO A SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN ON THREE PARCELS OF LAND 52.92 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA. 
          EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. GRIFFIN. WELCOME BACK. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE ZONING CHANGE FOR THE BARKSDALE PHASE THREE PROJECT. IT'S LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF JOURNEY PARKWAY AND CR 175. THIS AGENDA ITEM INCLUDES TWO STEPS. THE FIRST STEP IS GOING TO BE THE EVALUATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THE SECOND STEP IS THE ZONING CASE. AT THE END OF THE OF THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY. IT DOES WALK YOU THROUGH THE DIFFERENT STEPS, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO HELP YOU ALL WITH IT ONCE WE GET THERE, BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE COMPLICATED. BASICALLY, IF YOU DENY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CASE, YOU HAVE TO DENY THE ZONING CASE. IF YOU APPROVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CASE, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO APPROVE OR DENY THE ZONING CASE. AND THIS ALSO IS THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FIRST READING. SO YOUR FINAL DECISION WOULD BE AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. SO FIRST LET'S TALK ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY IS PART OF A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTE. A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER DOES ENCOURAGE MORE COMMERCIAL 
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DEVELOPMENT HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THIS PROPERTY HAS A LOT OF HISTORY WITH THE CITY. 
          AND I DID TAKE SOME TIME TO PULL TOGETHER SOME OF THE BACKGROUND. SO THIS IS OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OVER TIME. SO IN 2015, THE COMP PLAN INCLUDED A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AT THE INTERSECTION WITH ALL FOUR CORNERS. AND THEN 2018 THE COUNCIL AMENDED IT TO REMOVE IT FROM THIS PIECE FOR THAT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. IN 2021, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REMOVED THE ENTIRE CENTER, AND THEN IN 2022, WE RECEIVED DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL TO ADD MORE COMMERCIAL AREAS. SO THAT PIECE WAS ADDED BACK. IT'S THE ONLY CORNER THAT IS DEVELOPABLE. THIS IS CURRENTLY A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS IS CURRENTLY A NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS IS CURRENTLY A NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT WAS THE LAST REMAINING PIECE. SO THAT WAS ADDED AFTER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS ADOPTED FOR THE ZONING REQUEST. 
          THEY ARE ASKING FOR THREE ZONING DISTRICTS. THE SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN ALLOWS FOR 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS AND THAT'S LOCATED AT THE TOP. AND THEN THE SINGLE FAMILY. I THINK IT'S URBAN IS IN THE CENTER RIGHT HERE. AND THEN SINGLE FAMILY COMPACT IS ON THE BOTTOM. SO WE'RE KIND OF DOING A TRANSITION. THIS REQUEST DOES NOT MEET THE CURRENT WATER RESOLUTION. THAT WATER RESOLUTION SUPPORTS SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN, WHICH IS ALL 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS. WE HAVE LOOKED AT IT AND THIS REQUEST WOULDN'T INCREASE THE LOT COUNT BY MUCH, PROBABLY ABOUT 30 TO 50 LOTS AT THIS LOCATION. THIS REQUEST WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DURING THEIR MEETING ON MAY 22ND, AND DURING THAT MEETING, THEY APPROVED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, BUT CHOSE TO TAKE NO ACTION ON THE ZONING CASE. AND THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION FOR YOU GUYS, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THEIR PRESENTATION. THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO AT THE TOP OF THE POINT THERE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ALEX GRANADOS WITH KIMLEY-HORN. I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THIS PROJECT. WITH ME HERE TONIGHT IS ALSO ROYCE RIPPY WITHIN MY HOMES AND THE LANDOWNERS FOR THE ACTUAL PROPERTY. ALSO HERE, THE RUSSELL AND LEDBETTER FAMILY. SO I'M HERE JUST TO GIVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROPOSED PROJECT. ROBIN DID COVER A LOT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO COVER, SO I'LL TRY AND KEEP IT HIGH LEVEL AND REALLY JUST COVER MAYBE SOME TOPICS THAT SHE DIDN'T GET TO COVER. SO AGAIN, SHE GAVE AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE THE SITE IS. IT'S ON JOURNEY PARKWAY ENCOUNTER 175. AS YOU MENTIONED, THE PROPERTY IS KIND OF SURROUNDED BY EXISTING SUBDIVISIONS, SO THE PROPOSED LAND USE WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE AROUND IT. SO AFTER WE CAME BEFORE YOU LAST FALL, WE BEGAN. AFTER THAT MEETING, WE WENT AND ESTABLISHED THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS. AND WE ACTUALLY HELD TWO NEIGHBORING NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR. THOSE WERE PRETTY WELL ATTENDED. BOTH OF THEM HAD OVER 20 RESIDENTS IN ATTENDANCE, MAJORITY OF THOSE RESIDENTS COMING FROM THE COMMUNITIES, THAT WOULD BE THE MOST IMPACTED. AND SO I KIND OF WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL THE STUFF THAT WE HEARD DURING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH MEETINGS. SO WHAT WE PRESENTED THEM WAS THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WHICH ROBIN SHOWED. BUT HERE IS A OVERVIEW OF THAT SITE. WE SHARED WITH THEM THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM COUNCIL AT THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, AND WE ALSO SHARED WITH THEM THE PROPOSED PLAN, WHICH ROBIN MENTIONED, INCLUDE THE 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS, 60 FOOT WIDE LOTS AND 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS. SO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD AT THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH MEETINGS WAS THAT THERE WAS A GENERAL CONSENSUS. THERE WAS PLENTY OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL ZONE PROPERTY AT RONALD REAGAN, AND THAT THEY FELT LIKE THAT A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HERE WOULD BE OUT OF PLACE, AND THAT THE DEMANDS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL WERE ALREADY KIND OF LOCATED OFF OF RONALD REAGAN AND JOURNEY PARKWAY. AS ROB MENTIONED, THERE'S KIND OF BEEN SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THIS AREA IN THE PAST AND KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED THOSE, BUT THOSE ARE ALSO SHOWN HERE FOR REFERENCE. ANOTHER CONCERN, IF THIS WERE TO BE DEVELOPED AS COMMERCIAL, WERE JUST ALL THE ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAYS THAT A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT COULD CREATE ON JOURNEY PARKWAY AND COUNTY ROAD 75 AND SO WELL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, TRAFFIC GENERATION DOES VARY. IT'S TYPICALLY MORE INTENSE THAN THAT OF A SINGLE FAMILY USE. THERE ALSO WAS FEEDBACK FROM THE THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAT THIS IS A VERY AND I'LL KIND OF GO TO ANOTHER SLIDE HERE IN A SECOND. 
          SO THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE COMMERCIAL, BUT THERE'S A HANDFUL OF SCHOOL ZONES AROUND THE PROPERTY WITH ALL THE EXISTING SCHOOLS THAT ARE KIND OF OUTLINED HERE. SO WE HAVE AIKEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, MIDDLE SCHOOL AND PARKSIDE ELEMENTARY. AND SO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER SAID, HEY, WE DO A LOT OF WALKING, A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. WE FEEL LIKE THE CONFLICTS CREATED WITH THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE A LOT MORE THAN THAT OF A 
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RESIDENTIAL USE HERE. SO BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK, WE TOOK THAT FEEDBACK AND TOOK OUR PROPOSED PLAN TO PLANNING AND ZONING. LIKE ROBIN MENTIONED, THEY UNANIMOUSLY, UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED OR RECOMMENDED TO APPROVE OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT REQUEST, BUT THEY DID NOT TAKE ACTION ON OUR ZONING REQUEST. AS ROBIN NOTED, IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT RESOLUTION IN PLACE THAT PRIORITIZES LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY. ON THAT NOTE, WE DID. I GUESS WITH THAT IN MIND, WE DID CREATE A SCHEDULE OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT. SO THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE DONE IN TWO PHASES. AND IF YOU KIND OF SEE HERE THE FIRST PHASE, IF WE GOT APPROVAL TONIGHT, THE FIRST HOMES WOULD NOT COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION UNTIL ABOUT. LET ME MAKE SURE I HAVE THIS RIGHT. THIS MIGHT LOOK A LITTLE OFF, BUT THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION WOULDN'T BE COMPLETE UNTIL ABOUT TEN MONTHS AFTER THE CURRENT SCHEDULE FOR THE PHASE TWO IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH, AS YOU HEARD TONIGHT, IS STILL ON SCHEDULE TO BE COMPLETE. AND SO WITH THIS BEING IN TWO PHASES, THE SECOND PHASE WOULD NOT COME ONLINE UNTIL APRIL OF 29, WHICH WOULD BE ALMOST A YEAR AFTER THE PHASE TWO A BCR UI IMPROVEMENTS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETE AND, LIKE ROBIN MENTIONED, THE INCREASE IN UNIT COUNT ISN'T DRASTIC. WHEN WE CAME TO Y'ALL BEFORE, I BELIEVE WE HAD 148. IF WE WERE TO PROPOSE ALL 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS. WITH THE CURRENT PLAN, WE HAVE 176, SO IT'S ABOUT A DIFFERENCE OF 28 TOTAL SINGLE FAMILY LOTS. WITH THAT, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF MY OVERALL PRESENTATION AND OVERVIEW. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS IS OVER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. SO FIRST UP, DANIEL READ. GOOD EVENING MR. READ. PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. YES. DANIEL REED 708 PALAMOS. LEANDER. I'M ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO DENY THIS AMENDMENT REQUEST. THIS CHANGE WOULD ERASE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER DESIGNATION AT KEY. A KEY INTERSECTION LAND THE CITY SET ASIDE TO SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES, WALKABLE SERVICES, AND A STRONGER TAX BASE. THE DEVELOPER IS PUSHING A FALSE CHOICE FAST FOOD OR MORE HOUSES. BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE. THE SITE COULD SUPPORT A USEFUL LOW IMPACT OPTIONS LIKE A DAYCARE, CAFE, SMALL MEDICAL OFFICE, OR GREEN SPACE. THESE KINDS OF PLACES SERVE RESIDENTS, ADD VALUE AND DON'T BRING THE SAME TRAFFIC CONCERNS PEOPLE FEAR. BUT INSTEAD OF FINDING A BALANCED SOLUTION, THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO REPLACE THIS LAND INTENDED FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND NEIGHBORHOOD FOCUSED SERVICES WITH HIGH DENSITY HOUSING BECAUSE IT'S EASIER AND FASTER TO SELL. ONCE THAT HAPPENS, THE OPPORTUNITY IS GONE. NO BUSINESSES, NO SERVICES, JUST MORE ROOFTOPS AND MORE TRAFFIC. HIGH DENSITY HOUSING CAN GENERATE MORE TRAFFIC THAN SMALL COMMERCIAL CENTERS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S NOTHING NEARBY TO WALK TO. THAT'S EXACTLY WHY THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER DESIGNATION WAS CREATED TO GIVE PEOPLE NEARBY, WALKABLE OPTIONS. 
          LEANDER SAID IT WANTS TO GROW THE COMMERCIAL TAX BASE, REDUCE STRAIN ON RESIDENTIAL TAXPAYERS, AND FOLLOW SMART GROWTH PRINCIPLES, WHICH MEANS PLANNING NEIGHBORHOODS WITH ACCESS TO SERVICES, NOT JUST HOMES. APPROVING THIS REQUEST COULD UNINTENTIONALLY LIMIT THE CITY'S OPTIONS IN THE FUTURE. ONCE THIS LAND IS CONVERTED TO HIGH DENSITY HOUSING, IT CANNOT BE RECLAIMED FOR SERVICES, SMALL BUSINESSES OR NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS. I URGE YOU TO REJECT THIS AMENDMENT AND KEEP THIS LAND OPEN FOR WHAT IT WAS MEANT TO BE, A PLACE THAT SERVES BOTH RESIDENTS AND THE LONG TERM NEEDS OF THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. SANDESH. PUSH. GOOD EVENING. PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. YEAH. HI, THIS IS SANDESH AND MY ADDRESS IS 2337 MILLBROOK LOOP, LEANDER, TEXAS. 
          I CAME HERE TO FAVOR FOR THIS PROPOSAL BECAUSE THE WAY THE MAP WE LOOK AT IT, EVERYTHING IS NEIGHBORHOODS. AND. AND IT'S A WALKABLE DISTANCE TO THE HEAVILY COMMERCIAL AREA WHERE THE RONALD REAGAN IS THERE. RONALD REAGAN IS MAINLY MEANT FOR SHOPPING COMPLEX AND EVERYTHING, AND THE WALKING DISTANCE IS VERY NEARBY. IT'S NOT ON THE POINT WHERE THE CIRCLE WHERE YOU WANT TO BUILD THAT ONE. IT IS VERY IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE THERE, IT'S LIKE A CREEK, WATER CREEK. IF THE HEAVY RAIN COMES, THERE WILL BE VERY FLOODED AREA. I DON'T KNOW HOW CAN WE BUILD IF THE AREA WHERE THE CREEK IS THERE EITHER COMMERCIAL AND HOW THE DAYCARES OR ANY ANYTHING CAN SUSTAIN IN THAT HEAVILY, HEAVILY WATER LINE. AND NOW I CAN TELL YOU ONE OF THE EXAMPLE IN THE JOURNEY PARKWAY, IF THE HEAVY RAIN COMES, THAT CREEK WILL GOING TO BLOCK THEM. AND WE CANNOT EVEN PASS THE GO TO THE JOURNEY PARKWAY TO RONALD REAGAN AND MY NEIGHBOR WHO IS HAVE OWN PRIVATE LAND. HE IS EVEN HAVE A CONCERNED THE WATER IS COMING TO HIS HOME BECAUSE HIS HOME IS 
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BACK INTO THE BRUSHY CREEK. THAT IS THE AREA WE NEED TO FOCUS ON. AND THIS AREA IS VERY, VERY TRICKY. AND RECENTLY THERE IS A NEW SIGNAL CONSTRUCTED THERE. AND THE REASON WHY WE BUILD THE CONSTRUCTION, THERE IS A HEAVY ACCIDENTS HAPPEN THERE. AND NOW PUTTING THAT ONE LEADS TO MORE RISK. AND THERE IS A SCHOOL NEAR TO THAT. AND THE KIDS ARE WALKING BECAUSE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL FEEDS TO THAT PARK SIDE AND EVERYONE AND THE KIDS ARE DRIVING THE BIKE. AND IF YOU PUT A COMMERCIAL NEAR TO THAT LOCATION, THERE WILL BE MORE POTENTIAL TO MORE ACCIDENTS AND MORE THINGS BECAUSE WE CANNOT CONTROL WHO IS COMING TO THAT AREA. IF THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA, IS THERE, WE KNOW WHO WHO IS COMING THERE AND PEOPLE GOES TO THE SCHOOL AND EVERYTHING. 
          THAT'S WHY I'M I WANT TO ARE ASKING FOR THE HELP OF THE CITY. ALL THE MEMBERS, PLEASE APPROVE THIS REQUEST AND TRY TO BUILD A RESIDENTIAL AREA INSTEAD OF BUILDING A COMMERCIAL. THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. RAHMAN, ARE. GOOD EVENING. PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. MY NAME IS RAHMAN RAMAKRISHNAN. I KIND OF LIVE IN THREE, NINE, TWO NINE. WE ARE LEANDER, TEXAS. I'M HERE FOR THIS MOTION. KIND OF VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT SANDESH SAID. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE THE COMMERCIAL PRETTY CLOSE BY TO THIS PLACE AND RONALD REAGAN, WHICH IS VERY KIND OF WALKABLE AND IT'S NOT TOO FAR AWAY. IT'S LESS THAN A MILE FROM THERE. SO SINCE MOST OF THE COMMERCIAL IS KIND OF HAPPENING THERE, WE WANT TO KIND OF KEEP THE COMMERCIALS THERE AND HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL PLACE TO KIND OF KEEP IT RESIDENTIAL AND SPECIFICALLY IN THE MORNINGS, RIGHT. THE JOURNEY PARKWAY ALL THE WAY TO KIND OF THE CR ONE CERTIFIED JOURNEY PARKWAY. IT'S ALL CLOGGED UP BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOLS. THERE IS A SIGNAL THAT'S THERE, WHICH IS KIND OF BACKED UP MORE TIME. 
          RIGHT. AND IF AT ALL, YOU KIND OF KEEP ADDING MORE COMMERCIALS TO THAT PLACE. IT'S GOING TO ADD MORE TRAFFIC TO THAT. RIGHT? SO WE WANT TO KIND OF KEEP IT AT THAT PLACE AS, AS RESIDENTIAL AS POSSIBLE, AND MORE SO THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOLERS KIND OF USING THAT LENS TO KIND OF GET TO THE SCHOOL, WHICH IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF JOURNEY PARKWAY, AND PEOPLE ARE KIND OF COMING IN FROM PARKSIDE COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY. SO AND FROM MY COMMUNITY. THE LAWSUITS PRESERVE USING THE SAME LANE. WE WANT TO KEEP THE KIND OF THE PLACE AS LESS AS POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, SO THAT THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE KIND OF USING THAT SPACE IN TERMS OF BIKE BIKING AND ALL THAT STUFF, THEY WANT TO FEEL SAFE TO THAT, TO KIND OF USE THAT AS WELL. SO I SINCERELY KIND OF REQUEST YOU ALL TO KIND OF APPROVE THE MOTION TO KIND OF KEEP THAT PLACE AS RESIDENTIAL AS POSSIBLE AND KEEP THE HOMES AS, LIKE, AS BIG TO KIND OF KEEP IT LIKE A 70 FOOT LOT AND HAVE LESS OF SMALLER HOMES THERE SO THAT WE CAN KEEP LESSER NUMBER OF PEOPLE OCCUPYING THAT SPACE VERSUS KIND OF MORE OF SMALLER, SMALLER HOMES GOING TO THAT PLACE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CAN YOU PLEASE AMEND YOUR CARD? WE NEED YOUR LAST NAME FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. IF YOU TAKE THIS OVER TO THE END, WE'LL GIVE YOU A PEN THERE. THANK YOU. ANANTHA NAGESWARAN. GOOD EVENING. PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILORS. MY NAME IS ANANTHA NAGESWARAN. I LIVE IN 2308 ROARING RIVER LEANDER. SO I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT. I LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION. THAT'S IN OUR DISCUSSION TODAY. THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ALREADY ON THAT INTERSECTION. CR 175 ON JOURNEY PARKWAY, AND THERE'S TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND MIDDLE ONE MIDDLE SCHOOL VERY CLOSE TO THAT INTERSECTION. THERE'S A LOT OF STUDENTS GO BY BIKING, SCOOTER AND WALKING. THE LESS NUMBER OF TRAFFIC WE KEEP ON THAT ROAD, IT'S VERY SAFE FOR THE SCHOOL GOING KIDS. MY KIDS GO TO THAT SCHOOL, SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. AND TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S A TON OF THEM. ON RONALD REAGAN, AND THERE IS ONE RECENTLY DEVELOPING ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF NEW HOPE AND CR 175, WHICH IS VERY WALKABLE FROM THAT INTERSECTION. AND TALKING ABOUT DAYCARE AND OFFICE COMPLEXES, THERE'S ONE WALKABLE FROM THERE. THAT'S MAYFIELD OFFICE COMPLEX RIGHT THERE. IT JUST BUILT IN LIKE AN YEAR BEFORE. THERE'S TONS OF SUCH OPPORTUNITIES WHICH ARE WALKABLE FROM THAT PLACE. SO WE ARE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC AS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE IN THAT INTERSECTION. AND ALSO COMING TO RESIDENTIAL, WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP BUILDING LESS HOMES THERE, KIND OF LARGER LOTS, 20 FOOT LOT THERE. SO THE TRAFFIC IS LESS. AND ALSO THAT THE WATER USAGE AS THE NUMBER OF HOMES INCREASES, THE WATER USAGE IS GOING TO BE PRETTY CRUCIAL. SO THESE ARE MY CONCERNS AND THANKS FOR LISTENING TO THAT. PLEASE SUPPORT US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH ANITA. GOOD EVENING. PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. GOOD EVENING. ANITA. 708 PALMOS DRIVE, LEANDER, TEXAS. 78641. ORDINANCES ARE 
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ONLY MEANINGFUL IF THE CITY APPLIES THEM CONSISTENTLY. IF COUNCIL BEGINS MAKING EXCEPTIONS WHENEVER THERE'S DEVELOPER PRESSURE OR CONVENIENT TIMING, THEN THOSE POLICIES BECOME SYMBOLIC, NOT BINDING IF PRIORITIZED. LOW DENSITY REALLY MEANS ALLOW HIGHER DENSITY WHENEVER ASKED, AND IF THE WATER ORDINANCE CAN BE WAIVED BASED ON SPECULATIVE TIMELINES, THEN WHAT EXACTLY IS THE PURPOSE OF PASSING ORDINANCES IN THE FIRST PLACE? RESIDENTS FOLLOW THE RULES BECAUSE WE'RE TOLD THEY MATTER. IF THE CITY WON'T HOLD DEVELOPERS TO THE SAME STANDARD, IT DAMAGES NOT JUST THIS PROJECT. IT DAMAGES TRUST IN THE SYSTEM. DEVELOPER ARGUED THAT THEIR PROJECT SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE CLOSINGS WOULDN'T OCCUR UNTIL AFTER PHASE TWO. A OF THE BC PIPELINE IS COMPLETED, BUT THAT CLAIM IS SPECULATIVE, UNENFORCEABLE AND CONTRARY TO THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE. PHASE TWO A IS A CAPACITY ENHANCEMENT, NOT A GUARANTEE OF A YEAR ROUND SUPPLY. CENTRAL TEXAS REMAINS IN A REGION OF CLIMATE VOLATILITY AND PROLONGED DROUGHT CYCLES. AS AMAZING AS THE DEEP WATER INTAKE PIPELINE PROJECT IS, IT CANNOT INSULATE LEANDER FROM REGIONAL WATER INSECURITY, ESPECIALLY WITH ONLY ONE WATER SOURCE. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ULTIMATELY ABSTAINED FROM MAKING RECOMMENDATION ON THIS REZONING, PARTLY DUE TO DIFFERING VIEWS ON WHETHER SINGLE FAMILY COMPACT ZONING COULD SUPPORT AFFORDABILITY. WHILE THE INTENT TO CONSIDER HOUSING NEEDS IS AWESOME, IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT SINGLE FAMILY ZONING ALONE DOES NOT PRODUCE REAL, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SMALLER LOTS MAY PRODUCE REDUCED CONSTRUCTION COSTS, BUT WITHOUT ENFORCEABLE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS PRICE CAPS OR INCOME BASED ELIGIBILITY ELIGIBILITY, THESE HOMES WILL STILL SELL AT FULL MARKET VALUE. THAT MAKES THEM MORE ATTAINABLE ONLY TO THOSE WHO ALREADY QUALIFY TO BUY MARKET RATE HOUSING. SFC MAY INCREASE DENSITY, BUT IT DOES NOT INHERENTLY ADVANCE HOUSING EQUITY. IT'S IMPORTANT NOT TO CONFUSE RELATIVE AFFORDABILITY WITH REAL AFFORDABILITY, AS THIS ZONING REQUEST IS BASED ON SPECULATIVE TIMING AND ARGUMENTS ALIGNED MORE WITH PRIVATE INTERESTS THAN COMMUNITY NEEDS. 
          I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE CITY TO REJECT THIS REZONING. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SKYLER WILLIAMS. GOOD EVENING. PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. SKYLER WILLIAMS, 1955, COUNTY ROAD 175, LEANDER, TEXAS. FIRST AND FOREMOST, CONGRATULATION TO THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THOSE THAT WERE REELECTED. SO IN FRONT OF PLANNING AND ZONING, THERE WAS A LOT OF TESTIMONY. THERE WAS A MUCH MORE IN-DEPTH PRESENTATION ABOUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. AND I WILL SAY THAT THEY UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO REMOVE COMMERCIAL. THAT'S PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE FROM THE COMMUNITY, THE LOCAL RESIDENTS. THAT'S THAT'S NOT THE PLACE FOR COMMERCIAL. AND SOME PNC MEMBERS THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT SPECIFIC PROPERTY IN THE AREA STATED THAT THEMSELVES. 
          AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT THAT MR. LEE MISSTATED. IT'S NOT THE DEVELOPER THAT WANTS TO REMOVE THE COMMERCIAL. IT'S THE COMMUNITY. AND IT'S FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, INADEQUACY OF THAT PARTICULAR CORNER DUE TO WATER DRAINAGE FROM TWO VERY LARGE SUBDIVISIONS ACROSS THE STREET. THERE'S A NUMBER OF REASONS THAT COMMERCIAL IS NOT APPROPRIATE THERE. AND SO THAT'S OUR THE MAIN GOAL. AND I'D SAY IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE VOICE OF THE LOCAL RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING. THE SECOND THING THAT I WILL SAY IS THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE IN WORKING WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND TAKING INTO THINGS, TAKING THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION, LIKE PUTTING LARGER LOTS UP AGAINST SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL AND DOING THE RIGHT THING FROM A WATER DRAINAGE PERSPECTIVE AND ORGANIZING THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO WHERE IT'S A NATURAL TRANSITION FROM SINGLE FAMILY RURAL TO THE NORTH TO MORE DENSE IN THE LOST WOODS PRESERVE THERE AT THE SOUTH. I FEEL LIKE THE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE PUT TOGETHER IS THE RIGHT ONE, AND AN APPROPRIATE ONE FOR THAT AREA. AND YES, IT DOES LEAD TO MORE VARIETY OF HOUSING AND KIND OF A MORE NATURAL TRANSITION. AFFORDABILITY. YEAH, TO A DEGREE. BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HIGH DENSITY. I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY HIGH DENSITY SEVERAL TIMES TONIGHT. THIS IS NOT A 
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HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA. IT IS SUPPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY. AND OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPER IS ON BOARD WITH AS WELL. SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO APPROVE BOTH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE ZONING AS REQUESTED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          SWARTHY ENOUGH. GOOD EVENING. CAN SOMEBODY HELP. OH, YOU'VE GOT THAT. PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME. 
          YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. MY NAME IS SWATI AND I. I LIVE IN 2308 ROARING RIVER. THAT'S OKAY, THAT'S OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. OKAY? SO I WANT TO. I WANT TO LIKE, I, I USED TO GO TO AIKEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE SCHOOL. AIKEN, RIGHT? YEAH. SO. IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO GO THERE BECAUSE OF, LIKE, ALL THE SHOPS AND STUFF AND THE GAS STATIONS AND ALSO THE AND ALSO TO KEEP MORE COMMERCIALS, IT'LL. IT THE. THE ANIMALS WON'T BE WILL HAVE A HARD TIME SURVIVING. AND THAT'S WHY I CAME TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WONDERFUL JOB. OH MY GOODNESS. FRIGHTEN ME. SOME REASONS WHY WE DON'T NEED NEW SHOPS. WE WILL READ THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU DID A WONDERFUL JOB. ALL RIGHT, RAMAKRISHNA KANDULA. GOOD EVENING. PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. RAMAKRISHNA KANDULA LIVE IN TWO, FOUR, TWO, FOUR. 
          LAST BAND. LEANDER, TEXAS. THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR FOR GIVING THE OPPORTUNITY. SO I WANT TO BE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY'RE NOT THE COMMERCIAL BECAUSE EVERYBODY SPOKE LIKE THERE ARE A LOT OF TRAFFIC WHEN WE DROP KIDS TO THE SCHOOLS THERE. AND WITH THE COMMERCIAL, WE THINK LIKE IT WILL BE MORE TRAFFIC AND MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF THE OVERALL AREA IS ALL NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE COMMERCIAL. IT WILL BE MORE TRAFFIC. IT WILL DIFFICULT TO DROP THE KIDS. AND ALSO AS EVERYBODY SPOKE, THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL ON THE RONALD REAGAN, EVEN ON THE 175, THERE'S A NEW OFFICE SPACE AND GAS STATIONS COMING UP THERE. SO WE HAVE ENOUGH COMMERCIAL AROUND THE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AREA. SO THAT'S THE PRIMARY THING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S EVERYBODY THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. WE'LL NOW DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CASE CPA DASH 250017. AS PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED TONIGHT COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO START THE DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I'M OLD IN COUNCIL YEARS. I KNOW SOME HISTORY HERE. SO BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC AREA, I'VE BEEN THINKING BECAUSE WE HEARD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT, WELL, THE CITY HAS A PLAN, WHY WOULD WE DEVIATE FROM IT? IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T ALWAYS GET THAT PLAN RIGHT. SO BACK IN 2018, 2019, I REMEMBER WE FILLED THE CHAMBERS HERE WITH WITH RESIDENTS THAT WERE OUTRAGED BECAUSE ON HERITAGE GROVE ROAD, THE PREVIOUS COMPREHENSIVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAD NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL STRAIGHT UP AGAINST HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. AND SO WE HAD THIS VERY LOVELY GENTLEMAN, JUDGE STRINGER, WHO HAD BOUGHT THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY FOR HIS COMPANY, WHICH DID IT. IT DID ABATEMENT OF ASBESTOS, AND HE WAS GOING TO STORE ALL OF HIS TRUCKS ON THE LAND RIGHT NEXT TO THESE HOUSES. AND SO, OF COURSE, THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD PRETTY MUCH CAME OUT AND RIGHTLY SO. 
          NOBODY WANTS TO HAVE THEIR KID PLAYING IN THE BACKYARD RIGHT NEXT TO ONE OF THESE TRUCKS. 
          THIS WAS AN INSTANCE WHERE WE GOT IT WRONG, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE OVERLOOK THERE ARE SO MANY AREAS OF THE CITY LOOK AT. SOMETIMES WE OVERLOOK SOME OF THEM AND THINGS END UP WHERE THEY DON'T BELONG. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ISSUE THESE VARIANCES. THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION. I THINK I WAS ON COUNCIL FOR EVERY ONE OF THOSE CHANGES. SO I DO REMEMBER VERY MUCH, MR. RIPPY, THE ORIGINAL CHANGE. AND I REMEMBER AT THAT TIME IT WAS NOT JUST THE ISSUE OF COMMERCIAL, IT WAS ALSO THE DENSITY OF THE HOUSING THAT WAS REQUIRED TO GO ON THERE. AND THERE WERE MORE NEIGHBORS THAN THIS AT THE TIME. I REMEMBER BECAUSE IT DIDN'T FIT COMPARED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT DOOR TO IT. MISS GRIFFIN, I'M GUESSING THE WAY THAT CORNER ENDED UP 
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BACK ON WAS AFTER WE HAD THAT WEIRD THING ON LAKELINE. DO YOU REMEMBER? SORRY, JIM BECHTEL WAS REPRESENTING A PROPERTY ON LAKELINE, I THINK RIGHT AROUND THAT TIME, AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL AND WE WERE ALL UP HERE SAYING, WHY ISN'T IT COMMERCIAL? AND I THINK THAT WAS WHEN WE TASKED STAFF WITH FINDING AREAS THAT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMMERCIAL, AND I THINK LIKE EIGHT OF THEM WERE ADDED. I THINK IT WAS A MIX OF THINGS BECAUSE WE HAD JUST STARTED THE WATER RESOLUTION AND THERE WAS A DESIRE TO HAVE MORE COMMERCIAL, AND THE COMP PLAN HAD BEEN ADOPTED, AND WE JUST UPDATED THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN. SO A LOT OF MOVING PARTS. THAT MAKES SENSE. AND I THINK WE DID A WHOLE BUNCH ALL AT ONCE. IT WASN'T LIKE WE SAT DOWN AND SAID, THIS INTERSECTION SPECIFICALLY MUST BE THIS. IT WAS JUST KIND OF THOUGHTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WATER RESOLUTION QUICKLY TOO. WHERE THAT CAME FROM WAS BEFORE WE HAD ALL OF OUR WATER PLANS REALLY UNDERWAY. 
          WE NEEDED TO SLOW THINGS DOWN, AND THE MARKET WAS HOT AT THAT TIME, AND SO WE WERE GETTING NONSTOP REQUESTS. WELL, NOT AS MUCH US AS MISS GRIFFIN AND HER DEPARTMENT. NONSTOP REQUESTS FROM DEVELOPERS WHO WANTED TO PUT REALLY, REALLY TINY LOTS OR APARTMENTS OR WHATEVER. AND STAFF WOULD KEEP TELLING THEM, WELL, COUNCIL ISN'T GOING TO SUPPORT THIS, AND THEY WOULD STILL WANT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO HEAR IT FROM US. AND SO WE JUST PUT OUT THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE, YEAH, WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE HIGH RISES EVERYWHERE. WE DO NEED A MINUTE TO BREATHE. AND NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO THIS AREA WHERE IT'S NOT JUST THIS PROJECT THAT ISN'T GOING TO BE OPEN UNTIL AFTER THINGS ARE COMING ONLINE. IT'S ANYTHING THAT WE'RE APPROVING TODAY IS GOING TO TAKE YEARS TO COME ONLINE. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT HISTORY LESSON OUT THERE. NOW IT'S UP TO YOU. COUNCIL. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I'VE BEEN IN LEANDER SINCE 2007, AND SO I'VE WATCHED THAT WHOLE AREA GROW, WATCH THE SCHOOLS GET BUILT OVER THERE, WATCH ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS COME IN OVER THERE. AND I AGREE THAT IF THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE A VARIANCE, THIS IS IT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE BUILT AROUND THAT CORNER. COMMERCIAL. WHILE IT IS OUR GOAL TO INCREASE COMMERCIAL AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE LOTS AND AREAS THAT ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON COMMERCIAL, I'M NOT SURE THAT IF A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS WENT IN THERE, HOW SUCCESSFUL THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BE, HOW MUCH BUSINESS THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO DRAW. YOU'RE GOING DEEP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SURROUNDED BY ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD GET ENOUGH VISIBILITY AS A BUSINESS OR HAVE EVEN ENOUGH DRIVABLE TRAFFIC TO DRAW IN THE TYPE OF CLIENTELE CERTAIN BUSINESSES WOULD NEED. THAT IS TRUE. A NEIGHBORHOOD DAYCARE PROBABLY COULD WORK THERE, BUT WITH THE ISSUE OF RUNOFF AND DRAINAGE AND JUST ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING AT THE FOUR CORNERS OF THAT, WHAT USED TO BE A STOP SIGN, NOW IT'S A LIGHT OF THAT AREA AND THAT WE DO HAVE COMMERCIAL NOT FAR AWAY. 
          YOU KNOW, I'M INCLINED TO SAY THE BETTER USE AND THE HIGHEST USE AND THE BEST USE OF THAT AREA SHOULD BE RESIDENTIAL, IS WHAT IT FEELS LIKE. EVEN THOUGH WE DECIDED A FEW YEARS AGO THAT IT SHOULD BE COMMERCIAL. NOW, WHEN YOU ARE ABLE TO STEP BACK AND LOOK AT HOW THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS DEVELOPED, RESIDENTIAL APPEARS TO BE THE BETTER OPTION. YEAH. ANYBODY ON THIS SIDE? I WANT TO THANK THE RESIDENTS FOR COMING OUT AND SHARING THEIR THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL ZONING CHANGE. FOR REPRESENTATIVES OF KIMLEY-HORN, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL MENTIONED THAT YOU DID SOME COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND NOTIFICATION AS YOU WERE DOING THIS CHANGE. CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THAT PROCESS? YEAH, SO WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO THAT NOTIFICATION. SO WE HOSTED TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS I MENTIONED BOTH IN MARCH. AND SO WE REACHED OUT TO THE HOA, BOTH ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PROPERTY. I THINK IT'S AT 500FT. ROBIN. I FORGET WHAT THE DISTANCE REQUIRED 500FT. AND SO WE AGAIN PRESENTED ALMOST ALL THE INFORMATION WE HAVE BEFORE YOU HERE TONIGHT. GOT THEIR FEEDBACK, TOOK IT ALL DOWN AND THEN THAT'S WHAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU ALL TONIGHT. AND CAN YOU GIVE ME AN OVERVIEW OF JUST THE GENERAL FEEL THAT FEEDBACK THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY? YEAH, I THINK IT'S A LOT OF WHAT YOU HEARD TONIGHT, RIGHT? HEY, COMMERCIAL DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT FOR THE AREA. WE DON'T WANT THE COMMERCIAL USE THERE WITH THE UNKNOWN USER TRAFFIC CONCERNS. IT JUST DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT FIT THERE. AND SO AND SAME SIMILAR FEEDBACK. HEY, WE HAD A SIMILAR REQUEST BACK IN 2018. WE FELT LIKE WE CAME OUT AND SPOKE AGAINST IT THIS TIME, INSTEAD OF GOING AND TRYING TO COMPLY WITH THE MAP, TALK TO THE RESIDENTS FIRST AND THEN CAME BEFORE YOU WITH THE PLAN. THEY KIND OF MESHED WITH THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS WANTED OR THOUGHT WAS THE BEST USE THERE. THANK YOU. THAT'S SOMETHING. SO I BELIEVE THIS CAME BEFORE US WHAT SEPTEMBER OCTOBER LAST YEAR. SO I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I KNOW I MADE SOME COMMENTS THAT I'VE SEEN THIS WORK IN OTHER AREAS, LIKE IN CEDAR PARK. IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM HIGH SCHOOL TO MIDDLE SCHOOL. SO WE'RE NOT 
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REALLY COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A HIGH SCHOOL IN MIDDLE SCHOOL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET HAVE A BUSINESS THAT WOULD CATER TO THOSE. BUT I ALSO WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO STAFF BECAUSE I WAS AGAINST IT BACK THEN. AND I DON'T WANT TO SEEM FLIPPANT, BUT, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, AS I LOOK AT THIS RESIDENTIAL DOES SEEM TO REALLY MAKE SENSE FOR THIS AREA. AND. SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHY THINGS GET TO COME BACK BEFORE US, BECAUSE SOMETIMES MAYBE WE'LL GET IT WRONG. BUT I WILL SAY THIS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC, IT'S NOT REALLY A GOOD ARGUMENT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO THE SAME SCHOOLS AND FINDING THE SAME TIME OF DAY THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO AND FROM. BUT DOES IT MAKE DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL THERE OVER COMMERCIAL? I BELIEVE SO THAT'S MY COMMENTS, ANDREW. I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF THE RESIDENTS WHO CAME OUT HERE TO SPEAK UP AND MAKE THEIR VOICE HEARD. I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I'M REALLY, REALLY HAPPY TO BE ON A COUNCIL THAT TAKES THE TIME TO LISTEN TO THOSE THINGS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS MIGHT BE. OKAY, SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US, THE CITIZENS OF LEANDER, TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE AND WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. WE ARE LISTENING, BUT SOMETIMES THESE DECISIONS ARE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE AND THERE'S A LOT OF COMPONENTS. SO I APPLAUD EVERYONE WHO HAS SPOKEN THIS EVENING BECAUSE IT'S GIVEN US A VERY COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF WHAT THE ISSUES ARE. THERE IS ONE COMPONENT THAT'S MISSING, HOWEVER, AND I WANT TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT I ASKED FOR SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF WHATEVER DECISION THAT WE MADE. AND THAT IS THE TAX IMPACT OF THE DECISION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. OKAY. SO FOR THE CITIZENS OF LEANDER, I HEAR YOU, BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE COST FOR THE CITY TO SERVICE THE RESIDENTIAL AREA IS AN INCREASE. IT COSTS US MORE TO SERVICE RESIDENTIAL THAN IT DOES FOR US TO SERVICE COMMERCIAL FOR THE CITIZENS OF LEANDER, I ALSO WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE DECISION IS BEING BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE LONG TERM REVENUE GENERATION OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST IN THE CITY OF LEANDER, HENCE THE FLIP FLOPPING A LOT. WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER TIME? THERE'S NOBODY TO BLAME. 
          THERE'S NO FINGERS TO POINT TO. IT'S JUST PART OF THE PROCESS. RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT. AND PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT FALL UPON US TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. SO I JUST WANT TO BE VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT THOSE COMPONENTS HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS THAT WE'VE ALL UNDERTAKEN HERE AT THE DAIS THIS EVENING. SO THAT'S MY COMMENT. NICELY DONE. PRO TEM. ROBIN, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT I KNOW YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT THE CHANGE FOR ADDING MORE HOUSING, SMALLER LOTS WITHIN EFFECTIVELY ADD THAT MUCH MORE TO THE ORIGINAL REQUEST. WHAT IS CONSIDERED NOT THAT MUCH MORE BECAUSE WHEN I HEAR 28 IT IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT TO ME. BUT WHAT IN YOUR ESTIMATION WOULD BE CONSIDERED TOO MUCH IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT? SO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WATER RESOLUTION INITIALLY, I THINK IT WAS INTENDED MORE FOR THE 35 FOOT WIDE LOTS OR LARGER SUBDIVISIONS LIKE A TREVISO. SO WITH THAT SCALE, THIS IS A PRETTY SMALL SUBDIVISION. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. ONE OTHER QUESTION. IF WE APPROVE THE ZONING, ARE WE OPENING UP THE FLOODGATES FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO COME IN HERE TO REQUEST SMALLER LOTS THAN WHAT OUR RESOLUTION CURRENTLY ALLOWS? IT'S POSSIBLE THERE WOULD BE AN ARGUMENT IF IT WAS SOMETHING SIMILAR. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD OPEN IT UP TO A LOT OF TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. ARE WE ALLOWED TO PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THAT? SOME OF THIS CANNOT BE COMPLETED UNTIL AFTER THE DEEP WATER INTAKE IS ACTUALLY ONLINE. I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST, AND LEGAL HAD CONCERNS THAT IT WAS A TAKINGS, BECAUSE YOU COULD HIT A POINT WHERE YOU HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE THEY CAN'T DEVELOP THEIR LOT, LIKE IF SOMETHING GOES SIDEWAYS. THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THE ZONING CHANGE. I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THE WATER ORDINANCE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS IN CONFLICT BECAUSE UNDER ACTIVITY CENTER, WOULDN'T THEY BE ENTITLED TO DO LIKE DUPLEXES AND TOWNHOMES AND MORE NARROW LOTS TO PUT IN MORE DENSITY? SO WE DID CHANGE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO SAY NO MORE RESIDENTIAL IN THE CENTERS. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND COUNCIL MEMBER HERRERA. YEAH. SO I THINK THAT FOR ME, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A I'M NOT I'M NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST PUTTING HOUSES THERE. BUT WHAT I AM AGAINST IS JUST US GOING BACK AND FORTH AND FLIPPING THESE THINGS BACK AND FORTH WITH WHAT THEY ARE. WE PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE THAT WE INTEND TO FOLLOW. WE HAVE A PLAN TO SIT HERE AND LOOK AT IT WITHIN THE NEXT NINE MONTHS, 
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EVALUATE IT AND LOOK AT ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. AND SO I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S AN URGENCY TO WANT TO DEVELOP THIS LAND. THERE'S AN URGENCY TO DO WHATEVER THE DEVELOPER IS TRYING TO DO, WHAT FITS WHAT PEOPLE WANT. BUT WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, AND WE AND, AND I THINK THAT I WOULD RATHER STICK WITH THAT PLAN AND COME BACK AND REVISIT IT IN 6 TO 9 MONTHS AND FINISH OUT OUR PLAN. GET ALL THE COMMENTS FROM THE CITIZENS FROM ALL OVER THE CITY, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR ALL THIS STUFF. NOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD, THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GET EVEN WORSE. WE HAVE HOUSES. YEAH. WHAT IS THERE A THOUSAND HOUSES GOING UP THE STREET FROM THERE. AND THEN THERE'S A HIGH SCHOOL SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN THERE AND A MIDDLE SCHOOL UP THE ROAD. THEY'RE ALL GOING TO DRIVE UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SCHOOLS DOWN THERE THAT ARE THERE. THE TRAFFIC'S JUST GOING TO GET WORSE FROM THAT. SO I DON'T I DON'T SEE THAT AS AN ISSUE. I THINK THAT THERE ARE POSSIBILITIES FOR COMMERCIAL THERE. BUT I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE WHEN WE START JUST CHANGING ZONING ALL OVER THE PLACE, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME IN HERE THAT HAVE WANTED SOMETHING NOT BUILT NEXT TO THEIR HOUSES, AND WE'VE APPROVED IT BECAUSE IT FITS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AND IT'S JUST IT'S TOO MUCH BACK AND FORTH. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M AGAINST IT. I'M NOT AGAINST PUTTING HOUSES THERE. I'M NOT AGAINST CHANGING IT. BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION. SO WE DO IT IN A RATIONAL WAY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT. WE HAVE A LOT OF ROADS GOING BACK AND FORTH IN THE CITY THAT HAVE TO BE PAID FOR. THEY HAVE TO BE PAID FOR BY TAXES. IF WE DON'T DO ENOUGH COMMERCIAL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE OUR PROPERTY TAXES. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. AND I THINK THAT THAT IS A VERY TIMELY COMMENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DISCUSSIONS COMING UP AS WE'RE HIRING A COMPANY, BECAUSE THE COMPANY YOU HIRE HELPS SO MUCH TO DRIVE THAT. AND I NEVER LIKED OUR LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I DON'T THINK IT WAS DONE WELL. I DON'T THINK A LOT OF IT REFLECTS WHAT COUNCIL REALLY WANTED, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S STANDING THE TEST OF TIME, AND I WANT INPUT FROM PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT GET IT. WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. OTHER COMMENTS. DID YOU HAVE? CAN I JUST TAKE A MOMENT OF TIME? WHAT? OH THE YEAH WE DO THEM EACH. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. DO YOU WANT ME TO DO IT. ALL RIGHT THEN I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CASE CPA DASH 250017 AS PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED. 
          SECOND MOTION SECOND. IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AND OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. PASSES 5 TO 2 AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING CASE Z-250166. AS PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AND OPPOSED. THAT ONE'S FOR 4 TO 3. THE ZONING OKAY. I'M FOR YOU'RE FOR THE ZONING OKAY. SO ALSO 5 TO 2. Y'ALL HAVE ME CONFUSED NOW OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. ITEM 27. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT. I'M 27. 
          [27. Discuss and consider action on service and access agreements with CSC Holdings, LLC and/or its wholly-owned subsidiary Cequel Communications, LLC (dba “Optimum” or “Optimum Business”) in the amount of $16,250.00 non-recurring installation charge and $350.00 monthly recurring service charges to obtain a fiber optic connection for the city’s proposed Public, Education, and Government (PEG) access channel; and authorize the City Manager to execute all necessary documents and renewals.]
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON SERVICE AND ACCESS AGREEMENTS WITH CSC HOLDINGS LLC AND OR ITS WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY, SCL COMMUNICATIONS, DOING BUSINESS AS OPTIMUM OR OPTIMUM BUSINESS IN THE AMOUNT OF $16,250 NON-RECURRING INSTALLATION CHARGE AND $350 MONTHLY RECURRING SERVICE CHARGES TO OBTAIN A FIBER OPTIC CONNECTION FOR THE CITY'S PROPOSED PUBLIC EDUCATION AND GOVERNMENT ACCESS CHANNEL, AND AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND RENEWALS. ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF IT OFFICER SMITH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL STEWART SMITH'S, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF IT AND INFORMATION SECURITY OFFICER HERE TODAY TO ASK APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GOVERNMENT CABLE TV CHANNEL PROCESS. THIS ITEM IS TO PAY FOR INSTALLATION OF THE FIBER OPTIC CONNECTION BETWEEN THE CITY BROADCAST FACILITIES THAT WE'VE RECENTLY GOT THE EQUIPMENT INSTALLED IN, AND OPTIMUM CABLE'S OPERATING CENTER, SO THAT WE CAN START THE PROCESS OF BRINGING THAT UP. WE'RE EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, AND WE DECIDED TO START WORKING WITH OPTIMUM CABLE FIRST TO BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE ACCOUNTS WITH THEM. THEY ALREADY HAVE FIBER IN THE AREA WHERE OUR BROADCAST FACILITIES ARE, AND THEN OUR INTENT IS TO PUT IN WITH ALL THE OTHER CABLE COMPANIES WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. ONCE WE GET THAT OPERATING, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THE AGREEMENT ABOUT THE THIS PART OR THE CHANNEL IN GENERAL, OR THANK YOU. OPEN MIC NIGHT COUNCIL. ONE QUESTION. YES, SIR. WITH REGARDS TO ANY I ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE BROADCAST ON THIS CHANNEL, IS IT 
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LIMITED TO CITY BUSINESS. IS IT LIMITED TO JUST COUNCIL MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, PNC MEETINGS, THAT TYPE OF THING. IT THAT'S MORE OF A LEGAL KIND OF THING. BUT IT IS LIMITED TO GOVERNMENT BUSINESS. THE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE, TY IS WORKING ON POLICIES SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A LIST OF WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE. BUT IT'S NOT JUST KIND OF LIKE AN OPEN ACCESS CHANNEL WHERE ANYONE CAN COME ON AND USE IT. IT HAS TO BE RELATED TO GOVERNMENT BUSINESS. SO WOULD PUBLIC SERVICE. EXAMPLE, HOW TO USE A FOUR WAY STOP? WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE BROADCAST ON THAT CHANNEL A LITTLE OUTSIDE OF MY EXPERTISE, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF IF IT'S TEACHING, LIKE IF WE'RE TEACHING SERVICES LIKE, HEY, WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE NOT KNOWING HOW STOP SIGNS WORK. AND WE PUT OUT SOME, SOME EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL THAT THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OH. I THINK IT'S A THE PEG STANDS FOR PUBLIC, EDUCATIONAL AND GOVERNMENTAL CHANNELS. SO THAT WOULD FALL WITHIN THE WHAT COULD BE BROADCAST. AND WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND GET COUNCIL SOME MORE INFORMATION. I NEED TO LOOK AT IT AND PROVIDE YOU A MORE COMPREHENSIVE ANSWER. BUT WE CAN FOLLOW UP. RIGHT? RIGHT. I'M JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION ON WATER, EDUCATION ON A FEW THINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE THAT ARE PERTINENT TO THE COMMUNITY. NOW, I JUST WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE COULD DO THAT. SO ANY FOLLOW UP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. OKAY. THANKS. ONE QUESTION, MAYBE A STUPID QUESTION, BUT DO YOU HAVE TO BE AN OPTIMUM WHATEVER THE CABLE PROVIDER IS SUBSCRIBER TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS CHANNEL? YES, SIR. SO WITH INITIALLY WE'RE STARTING OFF WITH ONE CABLE COMPANY SO THAT WE CAN GET ALL THE BUGS WORKED OUT AND, YOU KNOW, GET STUFF INTO OUR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE A BROADCASTING FACILITY, WE'RE BRINGING ALL THAT UP WE WANT TO WORK WITH. WE ALREADY HAVE SERVICE WITH THIS PROVIDER. SO WE ALREADY HAVE ACCOUNT REPRESENTATIVES. AND WE KIND OF ALREADY HAD AN IN TO GET THIS STARTED. THEY HAVE A VERY THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO A CONDUIT ENTRY. SO WE CAN QUICKLY GET THIS UP. ONCE WE GET THAT DONE. 
          OUR INTENT IS TO WORK THROUGH ALL THE OTHER CABLE COMPANIES WITHIN THE CITY AND GET THEM ALL. BUT THEN WE'LL HAVE KIND OF A TEMPLATE FOR BRINGING THAT UP. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE DIFFERENT CABLE COMPANIES ALL IN OUR BROADCAST FACILITY AT ONE TIME, ONES HAVING THIS PROBLEM AND OTHERS HAVING THIS PROBLEM OR TRYING TO TROUBLESHOOT. WE WANT TO GET UP WITH ONE AND THEN GET ALL THE OTHERS INVOLVED AS WELL. THANK YOU. PRO TEM WITH STARTING WITH ONE CABLE COMPANY. AND MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY MANAGER. AND YOU'RE USING OPTIMUM. HOW MUCH OF THE CITY IS USING OPTIMUM AND HOW MANY PEOPLE OR HOW MANY HOUSEHOLDS WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE ACCESS TO THE CHANNEL TO START WITH, BEFORE WE HAVE OTHER CABLE NETWORKS COME IN? THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA IN FRONT OF ME OF HOW MUCH OF THE CITY IS COVERED BY. AND THIS USED TO BE SUDDENLINK, AND THEN THEY GOT BOUGHT. I THINK IT TURNED INTO ALTICE AT ONE POINT AND THEN TURNED INTO OPTIMUM. I DON'T HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE POPULATION WOULD BE. I CAN RESEARCH AND SEE IF I CAN GET SOME INFORMATION ON THAT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THEY'RE A GOOD PART OF THE CORE OF THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE ACCESS TO THIS CHANNEL AND BE ABLE TO SEE IT. I KNOW WE'RE WORKING OUT THE KINKS AND WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS WORKING LIKE IT NEEDS TO BEFORE YOU ADD ADDITIONAL PROVIDERS, BUT JUST WONDERING HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE? YES, MA'AM. I'LL SEE IF I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. AT WHAT POINT WOULD OUR CHANNEL BE ONLINE STREAMING? WOULD IT BE ONCE IT STARTS WITH OPTUM OR WOULD IT BE LATER? RIGHT. SO ONCE WE GET, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S UP WITH OPTIMUM AND WE'RE READY TO GO. WE'RE WORKING WITH COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE. YOU KNOW WE'LL SO THEY CAN USE THE BROADCAST EQUIPMENT EVERYTHING. WE'RE GOING TO GO FULL. WE INTEND TO GO FULLY LIVE WITH OPTIMUM. AND THEN WE'LL JUST BRING EVERYBODY ELSE ON. AS WE BRING THOSE CONNECTIONS IN, WE'LL JUST KIND OF TIME INTO OUR BROADCAST EQUIPMENT AND THEY JUST PICK IT UP. BUT WE'LL BE STREAMING ON OUR WEBSITE. I GUESS, LIKE CEDAR PARK, YOU GO TO THEIR WEBSITE AND YOU CAN WATCH CEDAR PARK TV LIKE THEIR STATION THROUGH YOUR WEB BROWSER. I ASSUMED WE WERE DOING THE SAME. WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY THROUGH THE WEBSITE. I'D HAVE TO GO BACK. I DON'T KNOW THAT THE WEBSITE PART IS WHAT WE'RE CONCENTRATING ON RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DO HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO THAT THROUGH THE STREAMING. THERE ARE MANY OF US THAT DON'T HAVE CABLE. I HAVE NOT HAD CABLE IN OVER A DECADE. YES, MA'AM. WE CERTAINLY ARE GOING TO BRING ALL THAT CAPABILITY UP, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION TO THE CABLE PROVIDER THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO PROCESS THE SIGNAL. WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT JUST CONKS OUT. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ALL WORKING. BUT YES, OUR INTENT IS TO GET IT ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. OPTIMUM DOES CARRY A STREAMING COMPONENT, CORRECT? OPTIMUM. OPTIMUM THE PROVIDER THEMSELVES, DO THEY CARRY A STREAMING COMPONENT, A STREAMING COMPONENT? IN OTHER WORDS, SPECTRUM HAS SPECTRUM TV, 
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WHICH IS AVAILABLE AS A STREAMING. YES. SO SAME THING. OPTIMUM HAS THE SAME THING. I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO STREAM THESE BROADCASTS FROM DAY ONE. RIGHT. SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO STREAM IT TO THEIR CUSTOMERS. I THINK THAT WITH THE WITH HOW WE DO, THE COMPONENT OF ADDING THAT STREAMING COMPONENT TO OUR OWN BROADCAST OR WEBSITE OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATION. YES, SIR. 
          RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THAT THEY DO HAVE A STREAMING COMPONENT. YES, SIR. 
          THIS IS THIS IS SEPARATE FROM WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH AT YOUR HOUSE OR WHAT YOU'RE RECEIVING FOR THE PROVIDER. THIS WOULD COME STRAIGHT FROM OUR BROADCAST EQUIPMENT, RIGHT. SO THERE WOULD BE A STREAM, WHETHER WE HAVE IT ON OUR SITE OR NOT IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE. YES, SIR. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. 
          MOTION. AND A SECOND. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU SO 
          [28. Discuss and consider action on acceptance of the Capital Improvements Plan (CIP) Evaluation Matrix.]
MUCH. THANK YOU. I'M 28. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON ACCEPTANCE OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN CIP EVALUATION MATRIX. ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER RAVEL. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. TONIGHT I'M GOING TO SHARE A PRESENTATION CONCERNING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, GIVE YOU THE OVERVIEW FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL DEAL WITH THE CIP MATRIX THAT WAS USED FOR THE EVALUATION OF ALL PROJECTS. AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT A FEW EXAMPLES AND THEN NEXT STEPS. SO IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PROGRAM, THE PROCESS WILL INVOLVE TWO MAJOR STEPS. SO FAR IN EACH CATEGORY. EACH PROJECT CATEGORY, WHETHER IT'S TRANSPORTATION, WATER PROJECTS, WASTEWATER PROJECTS, GOLF PROJECTS, PARK PROJECTS, STORMWATER AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. EACH PROJECT CATEGORY WAS RANKED INDIVIDUALLY AS IT RELATES TO NEED, AND SO WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES, IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES, AND THEN AFTER EACH PROJECT WAS RANKED. SO FOR INSTANCE, FOR TRANSPORTATION CATEGORY, ALL THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, THERE WERE A TOTAL OF ABOUT 75 RANKED ACCORDING TO NEED AND THEIR OWN SET OF CRITERIA, WHERE THEY ONLY HAD TO COMPETE AGAINST THEMSELVES. AND THEN LATER ON, AFTER WE HAD DONE THAT INDIVIDUAL RANKING FOR EACH CATEGORY. THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS MATRIX WAS APPLIED TO EACH PROJECT IN ORDER TO RANK ACROSS PROJECT CATEGORIES. SO A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT WAS COMPARED AGAINST A PARK PROJECT AND SO FORTH. AS I MENTIONED, THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS WERE RANKED AS A PART OF THAT INITIAL EVALUATION. ALL 74 WERE RANKED AGAINST EACH OTHER ACCORDING TO NEED, AND THEN THE TOP 30 TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS WERE RANKED AS A PART OF THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. MATRIX AND A SIMILAR A VERY SIMILAR PATTERN FOR WATER, WASTEWATER, PARKS AND SHORT TERM FACILITIES. SO FOR TRANSPORTATION THAT JUST WITHIN PROJECT RANKING, WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THAT THE SOURCE INFORMATION WAS MOSTLY MASTER PLAN INFORMATION. SO THAT WAS GENERATED FROM PAST MASTER PLANNING EFFORTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED PROJECTS ACROSS THE CITY THAT REQUIRED TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS. THOSE PROJECTS WERE KIND OF WERE PICKED OUT FROM THOSE MASTER PLANNING EFFORTS. AND THEN THE TEAM ALSO DEVELOPED. AND WHEN I SAY TEAM, I SHOULD SAY THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ASSOCIATED WITH TRANSPORTATION FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER DEVELOPED THESE INTERNAL SCORING CRITERIA THAT YOU SEE HERE SAFETY, MOBILITY, GROWTH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PROJECT READINESS, PHYSICAL CONDITION AND EQUITY. AND THEN THAT SCORING WAS DONE. AS WE MENTIONED, IT IS WORTH NOTING ACROSS THOSE 74 PROJECTS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HALF $1 BILLION. AND THEN AGAIN, THE APPLICATION OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM MATRIX WAS ACROSS 30 PROJECTS FOR ABOUT 266 MILLION. 
          SIMILAR THING FOR WATER. AGAIN, MASTER PLANNING EFFORTS WAS THE SOURCE FOR THOSE PROJECTS. THE SCORING METHODOLOGY APPROACH IS LISTED ON THE SLIDE. SIMILAR THING FOR WASTEWATER. PAST MASTER PLANNING EFFORTS IDENTIFIED 352 MILLION AND WASTEWATER RELATED PROJECTS AND IMPROVEMENTS AND NEEDS TO HAPPEN ACROSS THE CITY OF LEANDER. AND THIS EVALUATION THAT WAS DONE AND THE CRITERIA THAT WAS USED, REGULAR MEETING REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS, FUTURE GROWTH AND NEW DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS, AND ALSO SOME OF OUR PARTNERING REQUIREMENTS WITH CRITERIA THAT THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT STAFF THAT DEAL WITH WASTEWATER PROJECTS APPLIED TO THIS 
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EVALUATION FOR PARKS. SIMILAR THING WITH MASTER PLANNING EFFORTS. OVER $100 MILLION IN PARKS THAT WERE PROJECT PARK RELATED PROJECTS THAT WERE EVALUATED, AND THE CRITERIA THAT WAS USED FOR THE WITHIN PARKS CATEGORY EVALUATION. SHORT TERM FACILITIES. ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, WE DID NOT LOOK AT ALL FACILITIES ACROSS THE CITY. PART OF THE REASON WHY WE DID NOT DO THAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR EVALUATION IS BECAUSE WE GOT A FACILITIES MASTER PLANNING THE EFFORT THAT'S COMING UP, AND SO WE WANTED TO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THAT PLANNING EFFORT. AND SO THIS APPLICATION OF LOOKING AT THESE PROJECTS WILL HAPPEN ANNUALLY. SO WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LOOK AT THE FULL CAST OF FACILITY PROJECTS THEN. AND SO THIS LOOKED AT JUST SOME SHORT RANGE FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS OR SHORT TERM FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE THOUGHT REQUIRED SOME IMMEDIATE ATTENTION. WITH THE UNDERSTANDING, WE'LL LOOK AT THE LONGER RANGE IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR AND SUBSEQUENT YEARS FOR THAT MATTER. SO ALL OF THAT DEALT WITH THE RANKING AND THE CRITERIA THAT WAS USED WITHIN EACH CATEGORY. THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT OR PROGRAM MATRIX HERE. THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS TO SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT WATER PROJECTS, WE'VE GOT WASTEWATER PROJECTS, WE'VE GOT PARK PROJECTS, WE'VE GOT GOLF PROJECTS. HOW CAN WE HAVE ONE SET OF CRITERIA THAT WE COULD USE TO RANK AND RATE THESE PROJECTS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR CATEGORY. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS TASK DOES HERE. AND WE'RE ASKING TONIGHT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL'S ACCEPTANCE OF THIS. THIS MATRIX WAS DEVELOPED IN COOPERATION WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS, MAYOR PRO TEM. AND ALSO COUNCILMAN MCDONALD SAID ON THAT COMMITTEE, WE HAD AT LEAST TWO MEETINGS, I BELIEVE, IN FEBRUARY OF MARCH OF THIS YEAR, WHERE WE WALK THROUGH THE DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT WE WANTED TO USE OPERATIONAL CAPACITY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, QUALITY OF LIFE, VIOLENCE, COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT. WE WALK THROUGH THAT. WE TRIED TO LINE THAT UP WITH COUNCIL PRIORITIES. IF YOU REMEMBER THE CITY OF LEANDER'S VISION STATEMENT, YOU SEE A LOT OF WORDS IN THERE RELATED TO THAT VISION STATEMENT. BALANCED COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SOME, SOME, MOST CERTAINLY SOME THINGS ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE IN THAT VISION STATEMENT. SO WE TRIED TO ALIGN THESE THINGS UP WITH THE MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER. WE DECIDED THAT EACH. ELEMENT WOULD WOULD GET A SCORE OF 1 TO 10 BASED ON THEIR IMPACT AND THEIR VALUE. AND THEN ALSO THERE WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE RATE EACH ONE OF THESE CATEGORIES. AND AGAIN, THAT ASSIGNMENT OF WEIGHTING, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT THAT HIGHER RATING TO OPERATIONAL CAPACITY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL AS QUALITY OF LIFE WAS REALLY RELATED TO PRIORITIES. 
          THE CITY'S PRIORITIES ON ON GROWTH AND MANAGING GROWTH AND ENSURING THAT WE DELIVER ON OUR BASIC SERVICES, POLICE, FIRE AND WATER AND EMERGENCY SERVICES, AND ENSURING THAT WE CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WORKS AND WE GET THE WATER WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO. 
          WE GET RID OF THE WASTEWATER APPROPRIATELY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AS IT RELATES TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THEN THE FOURTH COLUMN, WADE SCORE IS GENERATED FROM THE PRIOR TWO COLUMNS. SO IF YOU IF YOU GET A SCORE OF TEN, MULTIPLY IT. IF WE'RE DEALING WITH OPERATIONAL CAPACITY, MULTIPLY THAT TIMES THE MULTIPLIER. YOU GET TO 30. AND A PERFECT SCORE IS 100. AND SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT THE MATRIX DOES. THIS MATRIX WAS APPLIED TO ALL THE PROJECTS THAT I MENTIONED. THE TOP 30 OF THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. THIS MATRIX WAS APPLIED TO THAT. THE TOP 25 OF THE WATER, THE TOP 25 OF THE WASTEWATER PROJECTS, AND THEN ALL OF THE PARK PROJECTS WAS ABOUT 10 TO 12. AND THEN THE SHORT TERM FACILITIES. SO A TOTAL OF ABOUT 94 PROJECTS WERE RATED BASED ON THIS CRITERIA. AND IT'S HARD TO SEE THIS, BUT THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY THE CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY EAST EXTENSION PROJECT. THIS PROJECT BASICALLY WOULD PROVIDE THAT EAST WEST CONNECTION BETWEEN RONALD REAGAN BOULEVARD AND COUNTY ROAD 175. AND THIS IS JUST GIVING AN EXAMPLE OF A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT WHERE THE RANKING WAS DONE. APPLYING THIS MATRIX WITH A SCORE OF, IF I'M READING THAT CORRECTLY, CAME OUT TO ABOUT 98, WHERE BASICALLY THIS PROJECT AS AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT MOST CERTAINLY PROVIDED THAT EAST 
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WEST CONNECTION, YOU KNOW, IN ALLOWING EXTENDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN TERMS OF THE ROADWAY ITSELF SCORED VERY HIGH AS IT RELATES TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THE ONLY THING WHERE THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERN FOR THE SCORE WAS RELATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT, AND A LOT OF THAT WAS RELATED TO THE CROSSING THE FLOODPLAINS AND THEN ADDING THE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE. IMPERVIOUSNESS KEEPING IN MIND THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT CATEGORY IS REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. AND SO SOME OF THESE PROJECTS MOST CERTAINLY WILL HAVE THAT KIND OF THAT KIND OF IMPACT THAT MAY AFFECT SCORE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. ANOTHER. AND BY THE WAY, I BELIEVE THAT PROJECT OVERALL. LET ME LET ME GO BACK TO MY NOTES. THAT PROJECT OVERALL RANKED AS NUMBER AS SIX. 
          AS NUMBER SIX. THIS NEXT PROJECT IS ACTUALLY THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION PROJECT. THIS WOULD BASICALLY ALMOST DOUBLE THE TREATMENT CAPACITY FOR THE EXISTING WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. IT'S ABOUT A $82 MILLION PROJECT. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IT SCORED PRETTY WELL TO TOTAL OF 97 POINTS USING THIS CRITERIA. AND THE OVERALL RANKING OF ACROSS THE 94 PROJECTS, THIS ONE RANKED AT ABOUT EIGHT. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IN THE DOCUMENT WE'RE GIVEN WITH THE RANKING SYSTEM SUMMARY, YOU TALKED ABOUT RECURRING ANNUALIZED EXPENSES. AND SO THIS WASTEWATER ONE WOULD BE PROBABLY A PRETTY GOOD EXAMPLE OF ONGOING EXPENSE, RIGHT? A RECURRING EXPENSE. AND SO I WAS KIND OF WONDERING LIKE, SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, I THINK WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS HAVING SOMETHING WHERE WE COULD HAVE A, WHERE WE WOULD UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF, WE APPROVE THIS AND HOW MUCH IS IT? IS IT. OH, IT'S 80, IT WAS ABOUT 80. AND THEN OVER THE LIFETIME OF IT, IT'S GOING TO COST US PROBABLY $100 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR I DON'T KNOW, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? A LOT TO RUN A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. SURE. THAT'S MOST CERTAINLY OPERATIONAL COST, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. RIGHT. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS WHEN WE WHEN WE GO AND WE PUT THEM ON THIS MATRIX, IF WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING WHERE WE SEE THAT THAT COMES BACK IN THAT AND IF IT COULD AS PART OF THE TRACKING SHEET. BUT ALSO I WOULD THINK IN, IN THE MATRIX IF THERE WAS SOMETHING WHERE TO KIND OF LIKE SAY, HEY, YEAH, THIS, THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THE ONGOING BUDGET GOING FORWARD. BECAUSE AS WE PRIORITIZE THINGS, IN SOME CASES, IT'S LIKE, HEY, IT OVERRIDES IT. IN OTHER CASES, IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A LUXURY. YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT WE CAN DO, THE CAPACITY WE HAVE IN THE FUTURE. BUT THAT'S BUT I GUESS THAT ACTUALLY COMES OUT IN THIS MEETING WHEN WE ACTUALLY APPROVE THEM, RIGHT? YEAH. SO THIS MATRIX REALLY ALLOWED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO JUST RANK THE PROJECTS. THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL STEPS THAT WILL BE TAKEN TO KIND OF TAKE INTO ACCOUNT REOCCURRING COSTS, TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PROJECT READINESS, TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OTHER FACTORS LIKE FUNDING AVAILABILITY. SO THIS MATRIX JUST ALLOWS US TO SEE, HEY, HERE'S WHAT THE RANKING WOULD B, AND HERE'S WHAT WE BELIEVE THE PROPOSED PROJECT LINEUP COULD BE. BUT THERE WILL BE OTHER FACTORS. LIKE I MENTIONED PROJECT READINESS, REOCCURRING COSTS AND FUNDING AVAILABILITY AND SEQUENCING OF PROJECTS IS ASSOCIATED WITH A PRIOR PHASE. 
          ALL OF THOSE THINGS WILL COME INTO PLAY THAT MAY ALLOW US TO MAKE SOME SOME ADJUSTMENTS. BUT YEAH, MOST OF THE AND BY THE WAY, MOST OF THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS WILL HAVE SOME OPERATIONAL IMPACT AND OPERATING COSTS IMPACT. I'LL SEE IF I CAN GET BACK TO MY PRESENTATION HERE. I DON'T THINK I CAN. I MAY NEED SOME TIE HELP OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT. AND WHAT I'LL DO IS, IS I'LL SKIP TO THE NEXT STEP. SLIDE. THANK YOU. WE'LL DO THE NEXT STEP. OH YEAH. 
          YEAH WE'LL GET IT DONE. SO AND SO BASICALLY WE'RE WE'RE SEEKING AGAIN COUNCIL ACCEPTANCE OF THE CIP MATRIX AT THIS POINT. AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS. AND THEN NEXT STEPS WILL INVOLVE A DETAILED FUNDING ANALYSIS. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED PROJECT COSTS. WE BELIEVE THAT THOSE COSTS ARE SOLID AND ROBUST. BUT NOW WHEN I SAY DETAILED FUNDING ANALYSIS WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S WHAT'S OUR AVAILABLE FUNDING, WHAT'S GOING TO BE OUR LONG TERM STRATEGY. WHAT DOES THAT INVOLVE? DOES IT INVOLVE GRANTS THAT INVOLVE GEO BONDS C-O 
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BONDS. WHAT'S OUR DEBT CAPACITY. SO THERE'S WORK BEING DONE WITH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS. THAT'S GOING TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT STRATEGY. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME MORE CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL ABOUT THAT AS WELL, THAT OUR CITY MANAGER IS LEADING. AND THEN THE NEXT STEP AFTER THAT OR OR CONCURRENT STEP, I WOULD SAY IS IMPACTING READINESS REVIEW. 
          SO, COUNCILMAN HERRERA, GOING BACK TO YOUR POINT, WE WANT TO MAP THIS OUT. YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE GOT ALL OF THESE POINTS. WE'VE RATED THESE THESE PROJECTS. BUT HOW DOES THIS LOOK ON A MAP? WHERE IS THIS HAPPENING AND WHAT'S THAT IMPACT. AND IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF SEQUENCE THINGS OR CHANGE THINGS AROUND TO MAXIMIZE THE IMPACT. AND SO WE'LL BE DOING THAT SPATIAL ANALYSIS TO UNDERSTAND THAT. AND THEN ALSO THE READINESS REVIEW, AS I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, IS THIS PROJECT READY. IS IT READY TO GO. DO WE HAVE DOLLARS IN PLACE IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DESIGNED AS A DESIGN BEEN DONE? DO WE HAVE RIGHT OF WAY THAT READINESS REVIEW WILL BE DONE AS WELL? AND THEN ALSO DO WE HAVE PARTNERS LIKE OUR COUNTY ROAD PROJECTS WE HAVE PARTNERS WITH? TO SOME EXTENT WE HAVE AGREEMENTS OR AGREEMENTS COMING. 
          AND SO AGAIN, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS SPEAK TO READINESS THAT WILL WANT TO DO. AND THOSE REVIEWS, JUST LIKE THE FUNDING REVIEW, MAY TWEAK SOME OF THE RANKING SO THAT WE MAKE OUR OUR PLAN MORE REALISTIC. AND THEN AFTER THAT WE SHOULD BE READY TO DO PROGRAMING. AND PROGRAMING IS BASICALLY SAYING THIS, THIS PROJECT OR THESE SET OF PROJECTS WILL BE DONE THIS YEAR, THEN THIS THE NEXT YEAR, THEN THIS SET THE NEXT YEAR, THEN THIS SET THE NEXT YEAR. WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH PROJECTS THAT WE COULD EASILY IDENTIFY OF A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. WE'VE PROBABLY GOT ENOUGH TO DO TEN, BECAUSE I THINK ACROSS ALL PROJECTS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT'S ABOUT 700 MILLION, 800 MILLION AND THAT NUMBER COULD GO UP. SO THERE'S QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS THAT WILL THAT WILL TAKE TO GET ALL OF THAT DONE. ONCE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IS SET, WE WOULD THEN PRESENT THIS TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REVIEW AND, AND COMMENTS, AND THEN EVENTUALLY COMING TO YOU ALL WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND SEEKING A CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY. COUNCIL MEMBER HERRERA, WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER MCDONALD AND I WERE WORKING WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE, THESE WERE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD THAT WE WANTED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE MATRIX OF RANKING, BUT TO BE EFFICIENT WITH TIME AND RESOURCES AND TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THROUGH ALL THE THINGS WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH. I THINK STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT THE MODEL WAS THIS WAY, WHERE WE COULD GO THROUGH LATER AND DO A DETAILED FUNDING ANALYSIS AND GO THROUGH LATER AND DO THE READINESS, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT IF A PROJECT ALREADY HAS MONEY FROM THE COUNTY THAT'S ALLOTTED TO IT, BUT IT'S RANKING LOWER? SO WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT? SO WE DID DISCUSS THAT AND HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD. AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLAN TO START. AND THEN WE SEE WHAT HAPPENS AS WE CONTINUE WITH THIS PROCESS FOR THE NEXT, WHAT, SIX MONTHS? HOW LONG DID WE SAY, YEAH, WE'LL GET THIS PROCESS DONE AS A PART OF THE BUDGET ADOPTION? YES. THANK YOU. YES. ANY FURTHER? YES. OH. WARNER, I RECOGNIZE PLACE ONE AT THE SAME TIME. I DO WANT TO COMMEND THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE ON THIS SO FAR. SOMEONE COMING IN FROM, YOU KNOW, THE NEW GUY KIND OF PERSPECTIVE. I KNOW THAT I'VE MENTIONED TO THE CITY MANAGER THERE WAS A LACK OF LIKE A PROJECT MANAGEMENT APPROACH TO A LOT OF THIS STUFF. SO FOR ME PERSONALLY, I LOVE THIS. I THINK THIS IS A VALUE ADD APPROACH, WHICH I THINK MAKES A TON OF SENSE. I DO ECHO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT COUNCILMAN HERRERA MADE. I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE THIS WITH SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS JUST FOR KNOWLEDGE PERSPECTIVE, AND I WILL GO ON RECORD RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S NOT A REALLY POPULAR OPINION, BUT I LOVE GANTT CHARTS. THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO USE GANTT CHART. I THINK IT'S A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND I THINK IT COULD BE VERY, VERY USEFUL FOR THIS BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU A LONG TERM PLANNING PERSPECTIVE WITH KEYSTONE DATES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I JUST THINK THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT APPLICATION HERE. THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. AND I'LL GO ON RECORD OF APPROVING A GANTT CHART. YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT. 
          OKAY. I WAS JUST WONDERING WHEN YOU'RE USING THE SCORING MATRIX AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TWO SCORES, THEY BOTH COME UP TO 95. HOW ARE YOU DETERMINING WHICH ONE IS MORE CRITICAL OR LIKE THE 
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CRITICALITY OF THE PROJECT. AND I REALIZE THIS IS SEPARATE TO LIKE THE READINESS REVIEW. JUST LIKE ON RAW SCORE, IF YOU'RE GETTING TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE AT THE SAME SCORE, HOW ARE Y'ALL DECIDING WHICH ONE TO PROCEED WITH? YEAH. SO AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PROJECTS LIKE THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD A CLEAR DISTINCTION WITH LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, I THINK A COUPLE OF PROJECTS HAD THE SCORE OF 97, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. WE JUST LISTED THOSE IN ORDER. THERE WASN'T A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE THESE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY HAD SUCH A HIGH SCORE, THE MOSTLY LIKELY GOING TO BE CONSIDERED. SO I, I THINK THOSE THINGS WILL COME UP AND WE'LL DEAL WITH THEM. BUT BUT AGAIN, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS WE NEED TO, BECAUSE THOSE TWO PROJECTS THAT GOT THE 97, WHEN WE DO THE READINESS REVIEW AND THE SUBSEQUENT FUNDING REVIEW OR THE PARTNERSHIP REVIEW, COORDINATION REVIEW, THAT MAY SHAKE OUT THE DISTINCTION THERE. AND SO WE'LL JUST CONTINUE TO WATCH THAT AS WE PUSH THINGS THROUGH THE PROCESS. THANK YOU. YEAH. JUST FROM I GUESS A HISTORICAL. AND SO PLEASE CORRECT ME HERE IF I'M WRONG. BUT THE REASON WHY WE DID THIS AND WE AS A COUNCIL ASKED FOR A SUBCOMMITTEE, AND DAVE AND NICOLE PICKED UP THE TORCH TO CARRY THIS WITH STAFF WAS IN THE PAST OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, WHICH ARE THE ACTUAL PROJECTS. IT'S NOT THE MO, IT'S JUST BUILDING THE THING, THE WIDGET. AND SO BUT WE JUST HAD THIS GIANT LIST OF WIDGETS AND THERE WAS NO RANKING. THERE WAS NO ORDER OF REFERENCE. THERE WAS THERE WAS NOTHING TO IT EXCEPT A GIANT LIST. AND SO AS COUNCIL, WE KNEW THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE SOME SORT OF PRIORITY TO IT. AND SO THAT'S AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMETHING'S RANKED AT 100 THAT THAT'S THE NEXT THING THAT GETS DONE. BECAUSE NOW ONCE IF WE APPROVE THIS RANKING SYSTEM, THEN THE NEXT STEP IS TO TAKE IT AND, AND VET IT FOR WHAT ARE THE MAINTENANCE EXPENSES. WHAT ARE THE LONG TERM COSTS? HOW DO WE FUND IT? DO WE HAVE THE MONEY TO FUND IT? DO WE HAVE TO YOUR POINT DURING THE PRESENTATION. 
          SO IT'S THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP OF SEVERAL IN THE PROCESS. AND PERSONALLY I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC STEP. AND I THINK IT IS WAS WHAT WAS DESPERATELY NEEDED. AND I'M I'M THRILLED THAT Y'ALL GOT THROUGH THIS BECAUSE I THINK THE THOUGHT AND EFFORT BEHIND THIS WAS EXACTLY WHAT WAS CALLED FOR. SO THANK YOU. AWESOME. IT'S ONE OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE OH GO AHEAD. I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. I REMEMBER WHEN WE GOT ON THAT FIRST CALL TO START GOING OVER THIS MATRIX AND EVERYBODY WAS ON THERE. IT WAS LIKE EVERYBODY HAD INPUT. SO THIS CAME FROM OUR ENTIRE ALL OF OUR DIRECTORS FOR THE CITY. AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA. AND JUST LIKE BECKY'S MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT OF THE READINESS OF THE PROJECT HAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, EVEN THOUGH IT MAYBE IT SCORES HIGH BECAUSE MAYBE IT'S NOT READY FOR FIVE YEARS. SO WE DO HAVE TO TAKE THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          BUT WE'VE GOT OUR FIRST BUILDING BLOCK HERE. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK CITY MANAGER FOR COMING UP WITH THIS BRILLIANT IDEA, OUR WONDERFUL COMMITTEE AND STAFF THAT HAS COME UP WITH THIS. I THINK THAT YOUR METHODOLOGY IS SOUND, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING ALL OF THE PROJECTS COMING FORWARD. THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU SO 
          [29. Discuss and consider action on a waiver to the residential phasing plan requirements for Subdivision Case CP-25-0045 Oak Grove Concept Plan on one (1) parcel of land 20.536 acres ± in size; more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R392186; and generally located east of CR 175, approximately 250 feet north of Carthage Street, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.]
MUCH. LET'S SEE, WHERE ARE WE? ITEM 29 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A WAIVER TO THE RESIDENTIAL PHASING PLAN. REQUIREMENTS FOR SUBDIVISION CASE CP 250045 OAK GROVE CONCEPT PLAN ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND 20.536 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. GRIFFIN. WELCOME BACK. GOOD EVENING. SO THIS IS A DISCUSSION ON A PROPOSED WAIVER TO THE PHASING REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS THE OAK GROVE DEVELOPMENT. THE COUNCIL'S RECENTLY REVIEWED THE ZONING REQUEST. THEY ARE PROPOSING 49 RESIDENTIAL LOTS. AND AFTER REVIEWING IT, STAFF FELT LIKE THIS WAS CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE 30. IT MAKES SENSE TO APPROVE THE WAIVER, SO I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU COUNCIL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, THEN MOTION A SECOND. 
          IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. 
          [30. Discuss and consider action on Street Vacate Case for SV-25-0003 to consider the vacation of a portion of the right-of-way (ROW) at the eastern end of Northline Street located within the Northline Subdivision which is balanced by the dedication of additional ROW in future sections of the subdivision; generally located to the south of the intersection of Main Street and San Gabriel Parkway, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.]
ITEM 30 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON STREET VARIANCE CASE FOR SB 25003. TO CONSIDER THE VACATION OF A PORTION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY AT THE EASTERN END OF NORTHLINE STREET, LOCATED WITHIN THE NORTHLINE SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS BALANCED BY THE DEDICATION OF ADDITIONAL 
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RIGHT OF WAY IN FUTURE SECTIONS OF THE SUBDIVISION. GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF MAIN STREET AND SAN GABRIEL PARKWAY. LEANDER, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS. 
          EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. GRIFFIN. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A PROPOSED STREET VACATE AS PART OF THE NORTHLINE SUBDIVISION. AND AS THE COUNCIL IS AWARE, WE'VE SEEN SOME CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPMENT. THIS PART OF THE PROPERTY HAS SWITCHED TO A CONVENTIONAL ZONING DISTRICT, AND THE ROAD ALIGNMENT IS SLIGHTLY CHANGING. SO THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING THAT WE VACATE THAT PORTION OF RIGHT OF WAY, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRIVATE DRIVE THAT CONTINUES TO THE DEVELOPMENT AS PART OF A STREET VACATE. USUALLY WE ASK FOR THE PERSON ASKING FOR THE VACATE TO PAY FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY. IN THIS CASE, HE'S DEVELOPING AND DEDICATING MORE RIGHT OF WAY. AND STAFF AGREED THAT IT BALANCED SO THERE IS NO FEE DUE AT THIS TIME. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANKS. COUNCIL MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 
          [31. Discuss and consider action on the Second Reading of an Ordinance regarding Special Use Case Z-25-0165 to consider action on a Special Use Permit to allow for a smoke shop on one (1) parcel of land approximately 0.155 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R036105; and more commonly known as 106 W. Willis Street, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.]
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ITEM 31 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING SPECIAL USE CASE Z-250165 TO CONSIDER ACTION ON A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A SMOKE SHOP ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND APPROXIMATELY 0.155 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE AGENDA. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. GRIFFIN. GOOD EVENING. SO THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE PARADOX SMOKE SHOP SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THIS ITEM IS ON THE REGULAR AGENDA BECAUSE THE VOTE WAS NOT UNANIMOUS, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MOTION TO APPROVE I'LL SECOND MOTION A SECOND. IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OH. YOU DIDN'T. I'M SO SORRY, I SAW ANDREWS. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. OKAY. PASSES 6 TO 1. THANK YOU. ITEM 32 HAS BEEN MOVED TO OUR JULY 1ST AGENDA. ITEM 33. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER 
          [33. Discuss and consider action on moving the January 1, 2026 regular council meeting to January 6, 2026 due to holiday of New Year's Day and scheduling 2025 and 2026 Council Retreat dates.]
ACTION ON MOVING THE JANUARY 1ST, 2026 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING TO JANUARY 6TH, 2026, DUE TO THE HOLIDAY OF NEW YEAR'S DAY AND SCHEDULING 2025 AND 2026 COUNCIL RETREAT DATES, ARE WE ALL GOOD WITH MOVING TO JANUARY 6TH? ANYBODY OPPOSED? IT'S BEEN A GOOD DAY TOGETHER I MEAN, I COULD. THAT'S A TUESDAY. AND THEN WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THE LAST FEW YEARS IS DOING OUR RETREATS. THE LAST WEEKEND OF JANUARY AND JULY. NOW THAT WE HAVE A NEW COUNCIL AND NEW STAFF, DO WE WANT TO KEEP DOING IT THAT WAY? DO Y'ALL WANT TO CHANGE IT UP? I KNOW SOMETIMES IT CONFLICTS WITH BECKY'S BIRTHDAY. I'M FINE WITH WHATEVER, AS LONG AS IT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE CAN ALL COUNT ON SO OUR STAFF CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY FOR THEIR OWN FAMILY VACATIONS. SO WHAT WAS THE QUESTION AGAIN? I'M SORRY. RETREATS. THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE'VE DONE THEM THE LAST WEEKEND OF JULY AND THE LAST WEEKEND OF JANUARY. DO WE WANT TO KEEP WITH THAT SCHEDULE OR DO WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT? AND TYPICALLY JULY IS A FRIDAY AND A SATURDAY, AND IN JANUARY IS JUST A FRIDAY. I THINK THEY BOTH USED TO BE TWO DAYS EACH, WEREN'T THEY? BUT THEN IT CHANGED. THEY CHANGED THE LAST TIME. THEY STARTED JANUARY WAS THE LAST. 
          FRIDAY IN JULY WAS THE LAST FRIDAY AND HAVE THEM ON SATURDAY IF NEEDED. OKAY, SO I GUESS MY QUESTION ABOUT THAT IS WHAT IS STAFF? I MEAN, IS IT NECESSARY BECAUSE PERSONALLY I DON'T WANT TO WASTE ANYBODY'S TIME, MINE OR ANYBODY ELSE'S. SO BUT ALSO IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GET A LOT OF WORK DONE. ABSOLUTELY. SO THAT'S MY POINT IS LIKE IF STAFF FEELS LIKE THAT IS STILL A GOOD USE OF EVERYBODY'S TIME, I'M ALL IN. IF STAFF FEELS LIKE THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO SKIN THAT CAT, I'M OPEN TO THAT TOO. HORRIBLE PHRASE. YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THAT PHRASE. SORRY, I'M. THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT. I'M EXTRA SENSITIVE. BUT ALSO, I WONDER IF IT'S THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME IF WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING THAT AS WE'RE SETTING THE DATES. CITY MANAGER, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS HERE? SO I THINK THE JANUARY JULY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS REALLY NOT THE MOST IDEAL SCHEDULE FOR THESE CONVERSATIONS. THE JULY FOR THIS YEAR IS CRITICAL TO US BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO PRESENT BUDGET CONCEPTS AND DO DEPARTMENTAL PRESENTATIONS ON OUR BUDGET. WE WOULD TRY TO ECONOMIZE AND JUST TRY TO GET THAT DONE IN ONE DAY AND NOT HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF UTILIZE UTILIZE THE SATURDAY TO DO THAT. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE SAYING ONE ENTIRE RETREAT DAY OF 
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BUDGET. EXACTLY, EXACTLY. AND SO THAT GETS THE CHANCE TO DO THAT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IF COUNCIL'S AMENABLE WOULD BE TO REALLY BACK UP AND DO AN INITIAL COUNCIL KIND OF RETREAT WORKSHOP, PROBABLY BEFORE THANKSGIVING, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY IN THE OCTOBER TIME FRAME. AND THAT'S A SETUP STRATEGICALLY FOR THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN REALLY TO BEGIN LOOKING AT THAT INITIAL KIND OF DEEPER DIVE INTO THE BUDGET AS WE REALLY GET INTO REALLY MAY OR JUNE. SO THAT GIVES US A CHANCE TO GIVE YOU FEEDBACK, LET YOU ALL THINK ABOUT IT, AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO MORE REGULAR MEETING CYCLES AS WE TRY TO GO THROUGH. WHAT WOULD THAT CYCLE LOOK LIKE LONG TERM. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL AFFECT NOT ONLY US, BUT, YOU KNOW, FUTURE COUNCILS I THINK COULD CHANGE IT. BUT YEAH, OCTOBER AND MAY AND I TOOK YOUR RECOMMENDATION. YEAH I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US TIME TO WORK, GIVE YOU TIME TO GIVE QUALITATIVE INPUT. AND THEN LET US KIND OF PROCEED AND WORK THROUGH. AND WE'RE GOING TO GET MUCH MORE DETAILED IN TERMS OF BUDGETING OUR CIP. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT TONIGHT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO PROGRAM BASED BUDGETING. THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING THAT ARE GOING TO BE MUCH MORE KIND OF DATA AND COMMUNICATION INTENSIVE AS WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD. AND SO WE'RE REALLY WE'RE REALLY IT'D BE HELPFUL AND USEFUL, I THINK, TO MAKE SURE WE GET COUNCIL INPUT IN THAT OCTOBER NOVEMBER TIME FRAME. LET US SET UP AND THEN WE CAN THEN PROCEED FORWARD LATER IN THE SPRING. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JULY JANUARY. WOULD THAT LOOK? WOULD THAT BE JULY OCTOBER THIS YEAR. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING? YES, YES. 
          QUESTION ABOUT THE MAY, WHICH I'M FINE WITH, BUT JUST THINKING ABOUT THE TWO YEARS THAT WE'RE IN ELECTION CYCLES AND YOU COULD END UP WITH RUNOFFS AND THAT SORT OF THING AND A CHANGE UP IN COUNCIL. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD IMPACT WHETHER OR NOT THOSE DATES WOULD BE A MAY DATE WOULD BE IDEAL, WITH OUR ELECTIONS BEING USUALLY HELD THAT FIRST SATURDAY, AND THEN YOU'RE INTO MID-JUNE, YOU MIGHT HAVE A BRAND NEW COUNCIL MEMBER FROM THOSE FIRST MEETING AS A RETREAT. WE WILL TREAT THEM VERY WELL. THEY WILL BECOME EXPERTS. WELL, IF YOU'RE IN A RUNOFF SITUATION, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT TOO, THEN YOU'RE MID-JUNE BEFORE YOU HAVE AND YOU'RE IN THE. SO YOU'RE MEETING WITH A COUNCIL THAT MAY NOT BE THERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. IT I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AS I AM A BRAND NEW COUNCIL MEMBER. YEAH. AND IT'S KIND OF A FALL THROUGH AND MOVE ON. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT STILL GIVES US TIME WITH THAT NEW COUNCIL PERSON. SHOULD THEY COME ON BOARD. THAT STILL ALLOWS THEM TO PROVIDE INPUT, BUT THAT LETS US GET MOMENTUM, KIND OF KEEP OUR PROCESSES GOING, GET OUR DATA AND ANALYTICS KIND OF PULL TOGETHER. WOULD APRIL WORK INSTEAD OF MAY? BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS TO CONTEND WITH WITH MAY ALSO IS THERE'S A LOT OF ABSENCES FOR GRADUATIONS. WE WILL MAKE IT WORK. IS IT NOT IDEAL? IT'S PUSHING A LITTLE EARLY. OKAY. YOU KNOW, IN THAT SCENARIO, I MEAN, MAY IS KIND OF IDEAL, BUT IF WE NEED TO BACK IT UP TO APRIL, WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK ABOUT EARLY IN MAY. SURE. 
          ABSOLUTELY TRUE. YEAH. END OF MAY. YOU'VE GOT NEW COUNCIL SO EARLY MAY I THINK WOULD BE IDEAL. YES THAT'S TRUE. SO THE ELECTION WILL WITH THE SECOND AND PART OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS BECAUSE I THINK THAT. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE FIRST TWO WEEKS BACK. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE THE THIRD MEETING OF MAY THEN, I MEAN TO AVOID ALL OF THESE CONFLICTS IS, IS IT'S STILL WITH WITH THE THIRD WEEK OF MAY STILL ACHIEVE WHAT IT IS YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE THERE. 
          SURE. YES. I MEAN YOU CAN'T FUTURE PROOF ANYTHING, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE SCENARIOS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE. BUT GIVEN A NORMAL PROCESS, I THINK THE THIRD WEEK OF MAY MAKES SENSE. I JUST THINK MAY IS HISTORICALLY DIFFICULT. YEAH. LAST YEAR, ONE OF OUR MAIN MEETINGS, WE BARELY MADE QUORUM BECAUSE THREE OF US WERE OUT OF TOWN. YEAH, BUT IF YOU KNEW THAT, YOU'D BE ABLE TO PLAN FOR IT AHEAD, RIGHT. AND NOT KNOW THERE MAY OR. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I THINK I THINK MAY IS GOOD. AND THE REASON I THINK IT'S GOOD IS BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, LIKE WE HAVE TWO RIGHT NOW, THAT IT GIVES THEM TIME TO UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET PROCESS AND WHAT'S GOING ON VERSUS COMING IN HERE AND NOT REALLY HAVING SEEN ANYTHING. AND WHAT IS IT THAT JUNE 16TH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME INTO A MEETING HERE IN A MONTH AND THEN HAVE TO SIT THERE AND BASICALLY AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH WHATEVER GETS PRESENTED. SO I THINK IT BACKING UP TO MAY MAKES SENSE. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT LET'S DO THIS. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE VOTE FOR THE JANUARY 1ST CHANGE. AND AT OUR 
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NEXT MEETING, IF YOU COULD BRING US SOME DATES THAT YOU PROPOSE THAT YOU THINK WOULD WORK, WE CAN WE CAN NAIL THAT DOWN. SO GOOD PLACE. ONE. JUST TO CLARIFY, ISN'T 2026 THE OFF YEAR FOR ELECTIONS? WE DON'T HAVE ANY ELECTIONS IN 2026 UNLESS THERE'S A SPECIAL ELECTION OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE MAY. SO THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT COULD USE VOTING HERE. WHAT ELSE IS IN MAY COUNCIL? IT'S JUST THE SCHOOLS RIGHT. SOME OF THE SCHOOLS OKAY I THINK DOES ANOTHER ONE. BUT IF THEY DO THAT IT COULD BE ANYTHING. BONDS. 
          BONDS. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT IT'S FAIRLY UNLIKELY THEN THAT WE WOULD HAVE LIKE A NEW MEMBER. THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TO ADJUST THAT. SURE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE OUR JANUARY 1ST, 2026 MEETING TO JANUARY 6TH, 2026. MOTION A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'RE KEEPING THE TIMES THE SAME. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 34 DISCUSSING. 
          [34. Discuss and consider action on the appointment of a City Council Liaison to the Historic Preservation Commission, Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee and the Economic Development Advisory Committee.]
CONSIDER ACTION ON THE APPOINTMENT OF A CITY COUNCIL LIAISON TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE WITH THE DEPARTURE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS PANTALEON PARKER AND NICK, THAT LEFT A COUPLE OF VACANCIES, ONE FOR HISTORIC AND ONE FOR PARKS AND REC. IN SPEAKING TO OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT CAME UP THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG HAS BEEN ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS THE VICE CHAIR, I BELIEVE. RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. AND THERE'S SOME WORK THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO FINISH UP. AND SO HE AND COUNCIL MEMBER HERRERA DISCUSSED IT. AND COUNCIL MEMBER HERRERA IS WILLING TO VACATE HIS LIAISON SHIP TO THAT COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN PLACE COUNCILMEMBER CHANG IN COUNCIL. MEMBER HERRERA WOULD MOVE OVER TO PARKS AND REC, AND THEN THAT STILL LEAVES HISTORIC OPEN. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, YOU'RE NOT READY TO TAKE A COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME. I DID HEAR INTEREST, I THINK, FROM PRO TEM ON HISTORIC. WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? DISCUSS ALL THE PLACES. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO FIGHT IT OUT OR ARE WE GOOD WITH THOSE THREE? WHEN IS THE NEXT CYCLE TO REAPPOINT EACH OF THOSE COMMISSIONS? IT'S JUST WHENEVER THERE'S NO SET. OH, FOR THE MEMBERS, BUT NOT FOR NOT FOR LIAISONS. HONESTLY, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION BEFORE THE END OF SUMMER ABOUT OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THE FUNCTIONS OF THEM, THE DYSFUNCTIONS OF THEM, HOW WE STRUCTURE THINGS. BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THEM, WE HAVE PEOPLE SPINNING WHEELS. AND THAT'S NOT A GOOD, GOOD WAY TO TREAT OUR VOLUNTEERS. AND IT'S A WASTE OF STAFF TIME AS WELL. YOU ALL HAVE HEARD ME SAY IT A MILLION TIMES, BUT FOR THE NEWBIES, I HATE THE LIAISON ROLE BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS STAFF WILL TELL THE COMMITTEE SOMETHING AND THE COMMITTEE WON'T LIKE IT, AND ALL THEIR HEADS WILL TURN TO YOU TO TRY AND OVERRIDE STAFF, WHICH IS FULLY INAPPROPRIATE. YOUR ROLE AS A LIAISON IS TO JUST BE THERE TO GIVE GUIDANCE ABOUT THEM COMING TO COUNCIL AND HOW THINGS WORK HERE. SO I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT LIAISON ROLES LOOK LIKE, IF WE WANT TO CHANGE IT AT SOME POINT. SO IT'S NOT PERMANENT, IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT IN THE LONG WINDED WAY. YEAH, NO. AND I WOULD AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH THAT. I THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S A IT'S AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO TAKE THAT PARTICULAR LOOK AT THINGS. WE'RE REVIEWING SO MANY OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVES OF WHAT THE CITY DOES TODAY. JUST I FELT THAT THE HISTORICAL JUST TO BE ON RECORD THAT HISTORICAL. THEY HAVE PLENTY OF REALLY STRONG PEOPLE ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY. 
          THEY DON'T NEED A LIAISON. IN MY OPINION. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I WAS LIKE THAT REALLY DOESN'T NEED THAT. AS FAR AS FUNCTION OF THE COMMITTEE IS CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, DO THEY NEED THE GUIDANCE? I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I JUST DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS I JUST DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS NECESSARY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. BUT I DO AGREE WITH YOU 100%. I THINK IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT THE WAY THAT WE DO THE COMMISSIONS AND ADVISORIES, ALIGN THEM A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH THE STRATEGIC VISION GOING FORWARD, AND LOOK AT THE KIND OF OPTIONS WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT IT HAS THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE LONG TERM. I LOVE IT. SO MAYBE SOMETIME ON AN AGENDA SOON WE CAN HEAR FROM WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW KEY STAFF, DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS AND CITY MANAGERS AND WHATNOT. MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME IDEAS FROM YOU ALL IN THE FUTURE OF WHAT WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE, BUT IT WOULD BE A GOOD WORKSHOP. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, DOES ANYBODY OPPOSE THOSE THREE APPOINTMENTS? A MOTION? YES, APPROVE FOR STEVEN 
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TO BE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND MIKE FOR OUR PARKS AND REC. AND WE WILL KEEP HISTORICAL TBD. 
          PRO TEM WAS INTERESTED. OH, YOU WERE SORRY. I'M VERY TIRED AND NICOLE FOR HISTORICAL. I'LL SECOND IT. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          CONGRATULATIONS, ALL OF YOU. I AM NUMBER 35, COUNCIL MEMBER. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ANY DELIBERATION OF OR DECISION ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF THE INQUIRY SHALL BE LIMITED TO A PROPOSAL 
          [36. Council Member Closing Statements.]
TO PLACE THE SUBJECT ON THE AGENDA FOR A SUBSEQUENT MEETING. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? NO. 
          ITEM 36 COUNCIL MEMBER CLOSING COMMENTS. PLACE ONE. GOOD NIGHT. PLEASE HAVE A NICE EVENING, PLEASE. GOOD NIGHT. GOOD NIGHT. PLEASE. FIVE. I DO HAVE SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION HERE. IT'S JUST A LITTLE THING THAT I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT, GIVEN A LOT OF THE. 
          HISTORICAL EVENTS THAT TAKE PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY. SO THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE WAS APPROVED AND SIGNED MORE THAN A YEAR AFTER THE FIRST SHOTS WERE FIRED AT LEXINGTON AND CONCORD. 
          AND THAT WAS IN 1775, JUNETEENTH, WHICH CELEBRATES THE EMANCIPATION OF ENSLAVED AFRICAN AMERICANS IN TEXAS, WAS DECLARED IN 1865, WHICH WAS TWO YEARS AFTER THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION, AND THEN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT SAW SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS OR PROGRESS, RATHER, WITH THE PASSAGE OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT IN 1965. THE REASON I BRING THESE THINGS UP IS I WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO MIGHT BE WATCHING OR REVIEWING THIS AFTERWARDS TO THINK ABOUT THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THOSE DATES IN CONTEXT OF HOW LONG THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN HERE. 
          RIGHT. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THERE ARE ABOUT 100 YEARS APART. EACH ONE OF THEM. SO IT'S TAKEN ROUGHLY 300 YEARS AT THIS POINT TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES. AND THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS THAT CHANGE TAKES TIME. AND YOU HAVE TO BE PATIENT WHEN IT COMES TO FREEDOM. SO THAT WAS MY CLOSING COMMENT. VERY NICE. GOOD NIGHT. SHORT AND SWEET. OKAY. I HAVE LOTS OF THINGS TO SAY, AS ALWAYS. WE LOVE SHOPPING LOCAL AND WE HOPE THAT YOU LOVE SHOPPING LOCAL TOO. TONIGHT WE PICKED UP DINNER FROM THE BRAND NEW FIREHOUSE SUBS RIGHT HERE IN LEANDER AT SOUTH BROOK STATION. 
          AND ACCORDING TO MISS CRABTREE, WE ARE THEIR VERY FIRST CATERING JOB THAT THEY'VE DONE. AND THEY WERE VERY EXCITED AND IT WAS FANTASTIC. WE ENCOURAGE YOU, AS ALWAYS, WHEN YOU'RE OUT SHOPPING, LOOKING FOR A RESTAURANT OR WHATEVER, PICK LEANDER FIRST BECAUSE WHEN YOU KEEP YOUR MONEY HERE, YOU KEEP JOBS HERE, YOU KEEP ALL THE THINGS GOING THAT THAT WE TALK ABOUT EVERY SINGLE MEETING. AND AS ALWAYS, IF YOU CAN'T GET IN LEANDER, YOU PROBABLY DON'T NEED IT. HUGE THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF, ESPECIALLY PARK STAFF FOR THE OLD TOWN STREET FESTIVAL AND PARK STAFF AND LPAC FOR JUNETEENTH. IT WAS FANTASTIC. AND I SAW OUR BRAND NEW PARKS DIRECTOR OUT AT THE VERY FRONT OF THE PARKING LOT IN THE HEAT, DIRECTING TRAFFIC AND JUST WORKING ALL DAY. SO WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THE EFFORTS Y'ALL HAVE PUT INTO THINGS. I KNOW THIS IS A REALLY BUSY TIME BECAUSE UPCOMING EVENTS ON FRIDAY, JUNE 20TH AT 8 P.M, WE HAVE A BRAND NEW THING. IT'S SO COOL. HEROES ON THE LAWN. IT'S A COLLABORATION WITH TEXAS HUMANE HEROES. YOU CAN GET A CAT THERE, BECKY. THEY HAVE ADORABLE CATS. YOU HAVE TO BE NICE TO THEM. BUT WE ARE DOING WITH HUMANE HEROES. WE ARE DOING A COMMUNITY MOVIE NIGHT ON THE LAWN. SO COME OUT WITH YOUR FAMILY, WATCH A MOVIE, LOOK AT ALL THE ADORABLE PETS. MAYBE TAKE ONE HOME, MAYBE POST THEM TO YOUR SOCIAL NETWORKS SO THAT ALL YOUR FRIENDS CAN COME AND TAKE THEM HOME AND GET THEM ADOPTED. AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE THIS FRIDAY AT 8 P.M. AT TEXAS HUMANE HEROES ON CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY. AND THEN OF COURSE, JULY 3RD IS LIBERTY FEST. WHY DO WE DO IT JULY 3RD? BECAUSE IT'S GREAT TO SLEEP IN AND ENJOY YOUR DAY OFF ON JULY 4TH. SO MEET US AT DIVINE LAKE PARK AND WE'LL DO ALL THE FABULOUS FIREWORKS AND VENDORS AND ALL THE THINGS WE DO EVERY YEAR. AND ONE LAST, VERY, VERY SPECIAL THANK YOU TO MISS CRABTREE, WHO KEEPS US GOING IN ALL SORTS OF WAYS. AND YOU'RE LIKE 17 PEOPLE ALL AT ONCE, RUNNING AROUND TAKING CARE OF EVERYTHING FOR US. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS LATE. HOPEFULLY OUR NEXT ONE WILL NOT GO AS LATE. WE
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