[1. Workshop regarding the Capital Improvement Program (CIP).]
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ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS NOW 530. AND THIS SESSION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER WORKSHOP IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONER MAHAN. AND I DO HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT COMMISSIONER TERRELL HAS OFFICIALLY RESIGNED HER POSITION, AND THAT WILL BE FILLED BY CITY COUNCIL ON THEIR NORMAL SCHEDULE. AND WITH THAT, WE ARE NOW IN OUR WORKSHOP SESSION. GOOD EVENING. SO THIS IS A WORKSHOP THAT'S GOING TO BE HOSTED BY OUR CIP TEAM. THE CITY CHARTER TASKED THE COMMISSION WITH REVIEWING A DRAFT OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE PLAN AND MAKE SURE YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOUR JOB IS, WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE PLAN AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PLAN. AND THEN AT OUR NEXT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A DEEPER LOOK WHERE YOU ACTUALLY WILL BE MAKING A DECISION. AND WITH THAT, I WANT TO INTRODUCE TONY. OH, GINA. GINA, I'M INTRODUCING EVERYBODY'S TALKING TO ME. OH, WE'RE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WITH THE SLIDES, SO. OKAY, SO TONY BETTIS IS OUR OUR CIP MANAGER. IS THAT RIGHT, TONY? THAT IS CORRECT. YES. AND HE'LL BE LEADING US OFF. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TONY BETTIS. I'M THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US TONIGHT. WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE AND HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO DISCUSS AND LEARN SOME FEW THINGS. WITH REGARDS TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY YOUR EXTENT OF KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROGRAM, BUT IT IS WRITTEN INTO OUR CHARTER AND I APOLOGIZE. I'M MOVING A FEW THINGS AROUND SO I CAN DO THIS HERE. PART OF THE CHARTER ACTUALLY STATES I'M GOING TO SINCE I DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW PRESENTATION. I'M GOING TO READ A LITTLE BIT OFF HERE JUST TO HELP YOU ALL OUT, THAT IT DOES STATE IN THE CHARTER THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL ADOPT A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN. CONSTRUCTION OF THE CAPITAL PROJECT IS REQUIRED TO CONFORM WITH THE CIP, WHICH IS THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN CIP MAY BE AMENDED AT ANY TIME, BUT MUST BE REVIEWED AND CONSIDERED FOR AMENDMENT BY THE CITY COUNCIL. NO, NOT LESS THAN EVERY TWO YEARS. WE DO IT EVERY YEAR, SO IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO REVIEW IN CASE SOMETHING DOES COME UP. AND SOMETIMES IT HAPPENS. PROJECTS DO FLOAT HIGHER THAN THAN OTHER PROJECTS YEAR BY YEAR. THAT GIVES US A CHANCE TO ADJUST THAT. SO THE CIP IS A MULTI YEAR PLAN THIS YEAR. IN THE PAST I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL REMEMBER WE WERE DOING A TWO YEAR PLAN WITH OUTLOOKING TOWARDS FIVE YEARS. THIS TIME WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO TO TEN YEAR OUTLOOK. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR THE FULL TEN YEARS AND TRYING TO PLAN OUT THE FULL TEN YEARS. SO THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S NO IT'S OKAY. SO WITH REGARDS TO SAYING THAT OUR CIP, OUR PROJECTS, THEY HAVE CERTAIN FOLLOWING CRITERIA. THAT CRITERIA IS THAT THEY MUST BE A MINIMUM OF $200,000 IN ESTIMATED COST. THERE MUST BE NON-RECURRING, MUST PROVIDE A MINIMUM BENEFIT OF FIVE YEARS AND BE IN ADDITION TO THE CITY'S CAPITAL ASSETS. OUR GOAL HERE, OF COURSE, IS TO DEVELOP WELL. OUR PROGRAM IS LET ME LET ME STEP IN THE BACK HERE. HOW DO WE ACTUALLY DO THIS BASED UPON EVERY FIVE YEAR TYPE PLAN SITUATIONS EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND THEY DO A MASTER PLANNING EVERY FIVE YEARS. WATER, WASTEWATER, STORM DRAINS, PARKS, FACILITIES, ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL MASTER PLANS. CREATE A LIST OF WHAT THE CITY NEEDS BASED UPON THAT STUDY, AND THAT'S REVIEWED AND RENEWED EVERY FIVE YEARS. WHAT THAT DOES FOR US IS IT CREATES A LIST OF PROJECTS AND NEEDS, AND WE TRY TO SIT THERE AND HONE THROUGH THESE THESE NEEDS, THESE LISTS. AND YEAR BY YEAR WE'LL GO THROUGH AND WE'LL ASK EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS TO REVIEW THEIR LIST THROUGH BASED UPON EACH CATEGORY AND EACH OF THE CATEGORIES. OF COURSE, WATER, WASTEWATER, PARKS AND RECREATION, MUNICIPAL FACILITIES, TRANSPORTATION. AND THEY'LL GO THROUGH ALL THESE INDIVIDUAL CATEGORIES TRYING TO DEVELOP A PRIORITIZED LIST BASED UPON THEIR DEPARTMENT. AND BUT THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START. BUT WE STILL HAVE TO DO A FEW MORE THINGS. AND SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU HERE TONIGHT IS HOW WE TAKE FROM WHAT EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS PROVIDE TO US. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH A, A RANKING PROCESS OR ACTUALLY A SCORING PROCESS. AND SO IT'LL BE SCORED BASED UPON CERTAIN CRITERIA. AND SO THAT'S SCORED. YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF YOUR WAY OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THAT'S BASED UPON THAT CRITERIA. AND THAT CRITERIA DEVELOPS A MUCH MORE ROBUST LIST. BUT BASED UPON CERTAIN LEVELS. USUALLY WE SAY THE TOP 25 PER EACH. THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT ALWAYS WORKS BECAUSE FACILITIES USUALLY ONLY THERE'S 5 OR 6. BUT
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BASED UPON THAT WE'LL WE'LL GO THROUGH AND WE'LL DEVELOP THAT THAT RANKED OR I SHOULD SAY SCORED LIST. WE'LL HAVE A POWERPOINT HERE IN JUST A SECOND. AND THAT SCORED LIST SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY OTHERS BEYOND US. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE COMING. THE CHARTER REQUIRES US TO COME HERE BEFORE PNC AND PROVIDE, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE PLAN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. AND I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH IT HERE. OH, HERE WE GO. I'VE KIND OF ALREADY STARTED HERE WHERE WE SAID THE DEFINITION BASED ON THE CHARTER IS BEING THE MULTI-YEAR PLAN. WE DISCUSSED THE CRITERIA. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. AND THEN OF COURSE, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BASED UPON THESE CERTAIN CRITERIA CAN INCLUDE ROADS, TRANSPORTATION, UTILITIES BEING WATER, WASTEWATER TECHNOLOGY, IT, MUNICIPAL FACILITIES, PARKS AND RECREATION. THE GOAL, OF COURSE, IS FOR US TO PROVIDE THAT. IT SAYS MINIMUM FIVE YEAR, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING FOR TEN YEAR NOW. AND THIS PROVIDES THE BASIS TO IDENTIFY, EVALUATE SCHEDULE. AND SO EACH OF THESE WE PROVIDE THE SUMMARIES OF EACH OF THESE. AND WE DID SHARE THESE. I'M HOPING THAT YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO YOU PROBABLY HAVE NOT HAD LOOK AT THIS JUST YET. BUT THERE IS A LIST HERE OF APPROXIMATELY 95 I THINK, PROJECTS, AND NOT ALL 95 PROJECTS ARE GOING FOR CONSIDERATION. WE BASED OF COURSE SCORED THESE, THEN WE RANKED THEM. AND WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT BASED UPON THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS WE CAN GET WITHIN THIS PERIOD OF TIME. AND SO THAT ONLY ALLOWS US, I BELIEVE, THE TOP 47. BUT WE'LL GET TO THAT HERE IN A SECOND PLEASE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SUMMARIES OF EACH CAPITAL PROJECTS AND SUMMARIES ARE HERE ON THIS LAST COLUMN.ESTIMATED COST. AND RIGHT NOW WE'VE BEEN SAYING DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE COST. WE REALLY WANT TO HAVE A OBJECTIVE LOOK AT THE PROJECTS BASED UPON THE PROJECTS NEEDS. DON'T WORRY ABOUT COST.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SCHEDULES FOR IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATED. NOW, THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR US BECAUSE SCHEDULES CAN BE BASED UPON HOW QUICKLY CAN WE GET TO A PROJECT.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE LIKE TO USE THE TERM SHOVEL READY. THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY CORRECT, BUT CLOSE ENOUGH. CAN WE GET TO A PROJECT THAT'S ALREADY READY TO GO, OR DO WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S BASED UPON AN IMMEDIATE NEED, OR DO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. AND I'M GOING TO USE A PROJECT HERE AS AN EXAMPLE, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. WE KNOW THAT IN FIVE YEARS WE ARE ABSOLUTELY NEEDING A NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. IT HAS TO BE BIG. IT HAS TO BE ROBUST. IT HAS TO PROVIDE FOR ALL THE GROWTH WE'VE HAD. NOW START WORKING BACKWARDS. IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE US TWO AND A HALF TO THREE YEARS TO BUILD THAT. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE AND A HALF YEARS COMING BACK FROM WHERE WE NEED TO BE. AND THEN NOW ALSO TAKE ABOUT TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO ACTUALLY DESIGN IT. THAT PUTS US TODAY. SO THAT MAKES IT. THAT PROJECT IS ACTUALLY A HIGH PRIORITY FOR US BASED UPON THAT SCHEDULING. AND SO IT'S KIND OF US LOOKING AT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BASED ON SCHEDULE, SOURCES OF FUNDING. OF COURSE, FOR EACH OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, THEY CAN BE BASED UPON CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND OCCUPANCIES. I'M SORRY, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. BONDS, GRANTS. WE SOMETIMES GET A LOT OF GRANTS.
WE ARPA OF COURSE, WAS THERE THESE PAST FIVE YEARS. CAPMETRO SOMETIMES GIVES US GRANTS, TAKES OUT, SOMETIMES GIVES US GRANTS, AND THOSE WILL HAVE TIMELINES ON THEM. AND SO WE HAVE TO APPEAL TO THOSE PROJECTS. AND THEN OF COURSE, RECURRING ANNUALIZED EXPENSES. CIP PROJECTS WILL BE PRIORITIZED AND SCHEDULED INTO A YEARLY PLAN. AND THEN THE MATRIX IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS MATRIX HERE. SO LOOKING AT THIS, WE LOOKED AT THE TOP 30 PROJECTS FOR TRANSPORTATION, TOP 25 PROJECTS FOR WATER FOR WASTEWATER, TOP TEN PROJECTS FOR PARKS AND TOP FOUR FOR PROJECTS FOR FACILITY. THERE JUST WEREN'T THAT MANY PROJECTS WE COULD LOOK AT FOR FACILITIES. LOOKING AT THESE. AND I'VE GOT SOME EXAMPLES HERE, I'LL TRY TO GET THROUGH THESE, BUT BASED UPON TRANSPORTATION, YOU LOOK AT THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, OF COURSE, THERE'S MULTIPLE PLANS WE LOOK THROUGH. WE'VE GOT OUR TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, WE'VE GOT CORRIDOR STUDIES, WE'VE GOT THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN, WE'VE GOT PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE COUNTY. WE HAVE SIGNAL TIMING STUDIES. AND THEN WE LOOK AT START LOOKING AT THE COSTS, WHAT CAN WE AFFORD. AND RIGHT NOW I SAID DON'T LOOK AT THE COST RIGHT HERE. BUT WE DO HAVE BUDGETS BASED UPON WHAT WE THINK THE CITY CAN AFFORD AT THAT TIME. WE HAVE INTERNAL SCORING METHODOLOGY. SAFETY, OF COURSE, IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST. THERE IS MOBILITY GROWTH. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF COURSE, IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US. PROJECT READINESS, PHYSICAL CONDITIONING AND PHYSICAL CONDITION. I'M SORRY. AND THE EQUITY. EQUITY MEANS HOW DOES THIS SHARE ACROSS THE CITY. WE DON'T WANT TO JUST FOCUS ON ONE PART OF THE CITY. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SPREAD OUT THROUGH ALL OF OUR CITIZENS AND BE ABLE TO SHARE EQUALLY AND ALIKE. WATER. WE USUALLY GO THROUGH MASTER PLANS AND THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL STUDIES FOR ALSO FOR WATER. WE LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL SCORING METHODOLOGY.
OF COURSE WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH BCR, UA, WHICH IS BRUSHY CREEK REGIONAL AUTHORITY, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, SOMETIMES A FEW OTHERS IN THERE. INDESIGN. WHAT'S INDESIGN RIGHT NOW? WE
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ACTUALLY HAVE SEVERAL LARGE PROJECTS IN DESIGN AS WE SPEAK, BASED UPON OPERATIONS. FIRE FLOW, FIRE FLOW STATES WITHIN OUR CITY. HOW DO CERTAIN AREAS, IF WE HAVE A FIRE, A MAJOR FIRE, CAN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GET IN THERE AND ACTUALLY PROVIDE WATER TO PUT THAT OUT? AND THEN TIME HORIZON, WE'VE GOT THE FIVE, TEN, 20 YEARS WASTEWATER FAIRLY SIMILAR. WE GO THROUGH THE MASTER PLAN. WE LOOK AT METHODOLOGIES, REGULATORY. ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE LOOKING AT AT THE NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IS WE IT'S PARTIALLY REGULATORY BUT ALSO PARTIALLY WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE AT CAPACITY, FUTURE LAND USE BEING OUR GROWTH MASTER PLANS, NEW GROWTH AREAS AND PARTNERSHIP OBLIGATIONS. OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE BRUSHY CREEK REGIONAL DOWN IN ROUND ROCK. PARKS. THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT OTHER MASTER PLANS AND OPERATIONAL PLANS WE LOOK AT. OF COURSE, WE START LOOKING AT THE METHODOLOGY TO SCORING THOSE OUT. THERE'S SAFETY AND COMPLIANCE, STAFF CAPACITY, OPERATIONAL DISRUPTIONS, PHYSICAL CONDITION AND PROJECT READINESS. SHORT TERM FACILITIES. WE'VE GOT FIRE ADMINISTRATION. WHEN WE SAY SHORT FOR CERTAIN FACILITIES, A LOT OF THESE WILL LOOK AT THINGS THAT ARE HIGH IN CRITICAL NEEDS RIGHT NOW. FOR INSTANCE, THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION THAT'S OVER AT FIRE STATION NUMBER THREE, RIGHT BEHIND THE FAA ADMINISTRATION BUILDING THEIR GENERATORS, NOT WORKING. SO IT'S NOT GOOD FOR US TO HAVE OUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE POWER FOR THEMSELVES DURING EMERGENCIES. PORTABLE OFFICE, PUBLIC WORKS. THAT'S FOR WATER, WASTEWATER. WE AT CAPACITY LIBRARY, HVAC SYSTEM, THE LIBRARY SYSTEM WE REPLACED, I BELIEVE FIVE HVACS LAST YEAR AND WE BELIEVE HAVE FIVE MORE TO REPLACE THIS YEAR. AND THEN THE LIBRARY ROOF REPLACEMENT, WHICH IS AT ITS LIFE. NOW, HERE'S HERE'S SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON CFP MATRIX.THIS IS GOING THROUGH. AND THIS IS WHAT WE PASSED OUT TO EVERYBODY TO OOPS. MY APOLOGIES.
GOING THROUGH THE SCORING YOU'RE LOOKING AT OPERATIONAL CAPACITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PUBLIC SAFETY QUALITY OF LIFE BALANCE, COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT. AND THEN THE CATEGORIES EACH HAVE TEN POINTS EACH. BUT THERE'S WEIGHT MULTIPLIERS BASED UPON CERTAIN NEEDS. OPERATIONAL OF COURSE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT. PUBLIC SAFETY IS IMPORTANT. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS IMPORTANT OF COURSE. AND THEN WE'LL GET A WEIGHTED SCORE, WHICH COULD BE AT A TOTAL OF 100. SO THE HIGHEST RANKED WILL BE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR US.
LOWEST RANKED LOWEST PRIORITY. AND I'VE GOT THREE EXAMPLES HERE FROM ONE FOR TRANSPORTATION WITH A LITTLE BIT TINY I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT. WE'RE LOOKING AT AS AN EXAMPLE, CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY EAST EXTENSION. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE PARTNERED WITH WILLIAMSON COUNTY, WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING US $10 MILLION UP FRONT FOR THE ACTUAL PLANNING, DESIGN AND PROCUREMENT OF AS MUCH AS WE CAN FOR RIGHT OF WAY. AND SO THIS IS IMPORTANT. THERE'S TIMELINES ON THAT. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN FOLLOW FORWARD ON THAT CIP WASTEWATER MATRIX. THIS IS THIS IS THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT EXPANSION. SO THIS ONE IS MASSIVELY IMPORTANT FOR US. AND THIS SHOWS HOW WE SQUIRTED OUT. MY APOLOGIES I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES BUT IT SHOWS TOTAL SCORE OF 97 I THINK. AND THEN WE HAVE PARKS EXAMPLES. THIS IS FOR THE MAINTENANCE SHOP WHICH IS IMPORTANT. WE CAME IN, REALIZED THAT THE MAINTENANCE SHOP THAT WE HAVE AT RIGHT NOW, AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS BEYOND CAPACITY. IT HAS PROBLEMS, SPECIFICALLY SAFETY PROBLEMS, HEALTH PROBLEMS, AND IT JUST DOESN'T MEET THE NEEDS OF WHAT NEEDS TO OCCUR FOR OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND THAT ONE HAS AN 88.5, 86.5. THAT'S SO MUCH BETTER THAN MINE. THANK YOU. SO CONSIDERATIONS. SO ONCE WE GET THROUGH AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THREE COLUMNS OVER HERE ON THE FAR LEFT. THE ONE THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE PROJECT ID NUMBER. IT SAYS SCORE. THAT WAS THE SCORES WE JUST SHOWED YOU.
AND SO THAT SCORING IS THE FIRST ROUND OF HOW WE DO THIS. THEN WE GO THROUGH A RANKING PROCESS.
AND THAT RANKING PROCESS IS WHERE WE LOOK AT CERTAIN. OH MY APOLOGIES. CERTAIN OTHER ASPECTS WITH REGARDS TO PROJECT TYPES, PROJECT READINESS, PROJECT FUNDING, PROJECT SCHEDULING, SAFETY. AND SO WE'LL HAVE THAT RANKING. BUT ONCE WE GET THAT FINAL LIST, WE STILL GET IT BACK. AND WE FIND THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW TO BE MASSIVELY IMPORTANT. BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT SCORING WORKS, IT COMES OUT KIND OF AVERAGES OUT. IT MAY HAVE A LOW NUMBER OR LOW NUMBER, I APOLOGIZE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP, THE TOP ONE UP, THERE IS A SCORE OF 88.5 AND A RANK OF 35. IT SHOULD BE LOWER ON THE LIST, BUT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR
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THIS IS THE HERO WAY WEST WATER WATERLINE WATER TOWER. WE'RE IN DESIGN RIGHT NOW. WE'RE ANTICIPATING TRYING TO BE IN CONSTRUCTION BY SPRING. IF EVERYTHING WORKS OUT. WE HAVE A LOT OF EASEMENTS TO PROCURE, SO THAT CAN ALWAYS SLOW US DOWN. DROPPING DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE RONALD REAGAN OH, HERE'S A GOOD ONE FOR YOU, PARKS. THE OPERATIONAL FOR THE LAKEWOOD PARK MAINTENANCE STAFF SHOP AND BREAK ROOM THAT HAS A SCORE OF 78. WE KNOW THAT THAT'S ALSO A VERY IMPORTANT THERE'S SAFETY FACTORS INVOLVED. AND SOMETIMES WHEN YOU HAVE SO MANY CRITERIA THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH, THE ACTUAL SAFETY NEED DROPS DOWN IN LEVEL. AND THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING. BUT WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT SCORING MATRIX. AND SO YOU'LL SEE THE NEW RANK ON THE FAR LEFT WHERE IT SAYS NEW RANK. AND SO WE'VE ADJUSTED AT LEAST THOSE TOP WAS THAT 5 OR 6 PROJECTS BASED UPON THAT THAT NEW RANKING IN THERE. BUT THERE'S SOME OTHER. AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS. SO THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS FOR ADJUSTING THAT EVALUATION IS THAT LEGACY PROJECTS. AND IF YOU DO YOUR SHOW THE YELLOW OKAY, THOSE ARE LEGACY PROJECTS. THAT MEANS THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN DESIGN, GETTING READY TO GO OUT AND GET READY FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP THOSE ON THE LIST, ESPECIALLY FUNDED PROJECTS. THOSE CAN BE SOMETHING LIKE ARPA FUNDING OR CAPMETRO FUNDING, OR SOME OTHER GRANT FUNDING THAT MIGHT HAVE A TIMELINE. AND SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. PROJECTS ARE BEING EXECUTED AS A PARTNERSHIP. WILCO'S BEEN VERY GENEROUS WITH US. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SOME. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THROUGH ON THOSE TIMELINE. CONSIDERATIONS FOR DURATION OF DESIGN, RIGHT OF WAY, EASEMENT, PROCUREMENT, CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S WHAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE. HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE US TO GET THROUGH THIS PROJECT. AND SO SOMETIMES THOSE PROJECTS WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH REALLY QUICK. WE TRY TO EXPEDITE THOSE AND PROJECTS WHICH FULFILL A CRITICAL NEED. EVIDENTLY LIFE SAFETY IS ONE OF OUR HIGHEST, BUT DO NOT NECESSARILY RANK WHERE WE NEED THEM TO RANK. WE WILL TRY TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. AND OF COURSE, CPW DOES SHOW PROJECTS WHICH HAVE SCORED LOWER BUT RANK HIGHER.AND SO OUR NEXT STEPS HERE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH COUNCIL. WE'VE PRESENTED ON THE 17TH OF JUNE. WE'VE GONE THROUGH A FUNDING ANALYSIS AND WRITING THIS REVIEW. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE CIP PROGRAMING AND HERE'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. SO IT'S THE PRESENTATION OF CIP TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. SO WE'RE AT THAT FIFTH TO THE LAST STEP. AND SO WE PRESENT THE PLAN TO YOU FOR YOUR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION FOR ANY POTENTIAL OBSERVATIONS YOU MAY HAVE OR COMMENTS. EVIDENTLY, THE PROJECTS WE'D LIKE YOU ALL TO LOOK THROUGH IF YOU HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS, OF COURSE, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR THAT AS WELL. SO LET'S GO BACK AND I'LL SAY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN ANSWER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT I FIGURED I'LL JUST OPEN IT UP AS A GENERAL DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMISSION. IF ANYBODY HAD SOME COMMENTS, I'LL LET THEM SPEAK FIRST. IS THERE ANY WAY OR I GUESS, IS THIS THE EXTENT OF THE DESCRIPTION WE HAVE OR ANY WAY THAT WE COULD, IF WE WANTED TO DIVE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE? OR IS THIS KIND OF WE COULD WE RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF THE NEWER PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE VERY BROAD SCOPED IS THE TERMINOLOGY WE USE FOR IT, BECAUSE WHEN WE JUMP IN, WE'LL HIRE A CONSULTANT AND THEN WE DEVELOP LITERALLY DEFINE.
EXACTLY CORRECT. ABSOLUTELY. SO WE'LL BETTER DEFINE THE ACTUAL SCOPE OF WORK. AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE STARTING WITH A BROAD SCOPE OF WHAT WE KNOW AND ANTICIPATE IS THE NEED. AND WE CAN TRY TO PROVIDE YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS LET US KNOW. AND WE CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT BETTER ANSWER. IT MAY NOT BE SO VAGUE AS WHAT YOU SEE HERE, BUT BY ALL MEANS, MY APOLOGIES. ONE OF THE THINGS I FORGOT TO MENTION IS THAT AT THE END WE COME UP WITH A DELIVERABLE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THIS. THIS IS OUR CIP BOOK. WE PRODUCE ONE EVERY YEAR. THERE IS ONE ON OUR WEBSITE. OKAY. AND SO THE WEBSITE, A LINK TO IT IN THE EXECUTIVE PDF FORM. SO YOU JUST IT'S LINKED TO THE WEBSITE. SO YOU JUST CLICK ON THE SUMMARY. BUT I CAN EMAIL IT TO THE COMMISSION. SO YOU HAVE IT. ABSOLUTELY. AND AS GINA WAS POINTING OUT IS THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE INFORMATION ON THESE SHEETS, THESE WORKSHEETS. I'M WORKING ON THE DRAFT RIGHT NOW, BUT I WILL NEED YOUR INPUT AND REVIEW TO HELP ME FINALIZE THIS BOOK. OKAY. YEAH. MY $0.02 WAS I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAID YOU HIGHLIGHTED SEVERAL OF THE YELLOW ONES THAT ARE LEGACY PROJECTS, AND I MEAN, ONE OF THE FIRST ONES THAT STOOD OUT WAS ONE THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A WHILE BACK. SORRY, WAS THE SAN GABRIEL PARK. AND I KNOW THAT WAS EVEN ONE THAT THAT DIRECTOR TIMMONS HAD KIND OF SPEARHEADED FOR A WHILE THERE BEFORE HE RETIRED. AND I WAS JUST THINKING LIKE, THAT'S THAT'S 44. I SAW SOME NOTES ON THERE, LIKE, THIS PROJECT COST WOULD BE LIKE THE FIRST 41 PROJECTS OR, OR THE COST OF THE TOP 25 PROJECTS. I'M THINKING THAT ONE SHOULD
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PROBABLY BE MOVED UP IN THAT TOP 40 OR TOP 25, IN MY OPINION, JUST BECAUSE IT'S A LEGACY PROJECT. AND I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, STAPLE TO OUR COMMUNITY. BUT YEAH, I THINK IT'S JUST BASICALLY THE ACTION FOR US IS TO KIND OF REVIEW ALL OF THIS AND MAYBE COME BACK WITH SOME ADDITIONAL NOTES AND THOUGHTS. I BELIEVE WE ARE SCHEDULED TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.YEAH. I'LL COME BACK. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. SO THE COUNCIL'S ACCEPTED. THEY HAD THEY HAVE SEEN THIS ALREADY. THEY HAVEN'T NECESSARILY SEEN OR RERANKED. THEY'VE SEEN THE LIST AS IT ORIGINALLY COME OUT AS BEING SCORED. OKAY. BUT THEY HAVEN'T SEEN HOW WE'VE ADJUSTED IT BASED UPON THE RANKING. OKAY. AND THEY DID ACCEPT THE METRICS METHODOLOGY THE METHODOLOGY. AND THEN BEFORE THEY WERE RERANKED, THEY SAW THE LIST. OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I GOT IT. THANK YOU. AND AS Y'ALL REDID THE RERANK, OBVIOUSLY YOU ASSIGN CERTAIN PRIORITIES THAT BASED ON THIS, DID Y'ALL AS A WHOLE COLLECTIVE TEAM OR IS THIS LIKE HOW DID Y'ALL COME TO. IT'S A COLLECTIVE TEAM. YES, SIR. OKAY. BECAUSE YEAH, THERE'S QUITE A SHIFT FROM SOME OF THESE, LIKE THE OVERALL SCORE TO WHERE THEY LANDED. YES, SIR. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, ANY ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. WITH THAT I THINK WE WILL. IT'S 551. WE WILL ADJOURN AND WE WILL RECONVENE AT 6 P.M. FOR THE REGULAR MEETING OF PLANNING A GOOD EVENING. THE TIME IS NOW 6
[2. Call to Order.]
P.M. AND THIS MEETING OF THE CITY OF LEANDER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONER MAHAN AND THEN COMMISSIONER LYDIA, WHO RECENTLY RESIGNED HER[4. Director's report to the Planning & Zoning Commission on action taken by City Council on the July 17, 2025 meeting.]
POSITION ON THE COMMISSION. WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT. GOOD EVENING.I'M REPORTING ON ITEMS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THEY DID REVIEW THE BARKSDALE ZONING CASE, THE FINAL READING OF IT, AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. MICRO TRENCHING WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THAT AGENDA, AND IT'S GOING TO BE PUSHED TILL AUGUST 21ST, BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING WITH GOOGLE AND AT&T ON SOME ADDITIONAL UPDATES. BUT I'LL KEEP YOU GUYS POSTED ON THAT
[5. Review of meeting protocol.]
ONE. THAT'S IT FOR MY REPORT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT WE'LL MOVE TO OUR MEETING PROTOCOL. SO TO YOUR RIGHT ON THE LARGE SCREEN IS HOW WE CONDUCT OUR MEETINGS. IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THAT'S ON OR NOT ON THE AGENDA, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. WE'LL ASK YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. AND AT THAT POINT, THERE'LL BE NO DIRECT COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COMMISSION. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WISHING TO[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
SPEAK ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT? OKAY. WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. AND WITH THAT, WE JUST NEED APPROVE OUR MINUTES FROM THE MEETING HELD ON JULY 10TH.DO I HAVE A. I'M SORRY, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER LANTRIP AND SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. OKAY. AND IT
[8. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-24-0114 to amend the Leander Springs Planned Unit Development with base zoning districts of MF-2-A (Multi-Family) and GC-3-A (General Commercial) to update the language as it relates to phasing and timing of the development, reduce the total number of apartments, and modify the phasing requirements on two (2) parcels of land approximately 77.90 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R403524 and R051592; and generally located southwest of the intersection of 183A Toll Road and RM 2243, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.
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PHASING REQUIRED THAT A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION WAS ISSUED FOR THE CRYSTAL LAGOON BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2023, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE 380 ENTITLEMENTS. IF THE DEADLINE WAS NOT MET, THEN THE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT PERMITS WOULD NOT BE ISSUED UNTIL THE PUD WAS AMENDED. IF THIS IS NOT AMENDED, THEN THE FOLLOWING USES ARE STILL ALLOWED 35,000FT■!S OF COMMERCIAL MEANIG OFFICE OR RETAIL USES. SO AS A REMINDER FOR DEVELOPMENT. FIRST IS THE ZONING NEEDS TO BE APPROVED. THEN IS CONCEPT PLAN, PRELIMINARY PLAT, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT CONSTRUCTION PLANS, THEN THE FINAL PLAT, AND THEN THE PRIVATE SITE DEVELOPMENT. FOR THIS PROJECT, WE DID A LOT OF THE APPLICATION REVIEWS CONCURRENTLY. SO AFTER THE PUD WAS APPROVED, WE DID THE CONCEPT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLAT. THOSE WERE APPROVED IN 2021. THERE WAS A MINOR SITE DEVELOPMENT FOR ON SITE WATER WELL TESTING THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2022. THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONCEPT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN 2022. THERE WAS A MASS GRADING APPLICATION. THIS ONE WAS DELAYED. THEY REQUIRED A PUD AMENDMENT PRIOR TO APPROVAL. THE PHASE ONE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT CONSTRUCTION PLANS. THOSE HAVE EXPIRED. THE LEANDER SPRINGS FINAL PLAT. ALL COMMENTS WERE CLEARED, BUT THAT ONE IS PENDING APPROVAL OF YOUR CONSTRUCTION PLANS, WHICH HAS TO HAPPEN PRIOR TO FINAL APPROVAL. THERE WAS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2024. THERE WAS A MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE PUD TO CHANGE THE STREET TYPES AND ON STREET PARKING THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2023, AND THEN A CONCEPT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLAT, MINOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, WHICH WAS UPDATING THE STREETS TO MATCH THE NEW UPDATED PUD THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2023. SO AGAIN, CURRENTLY THE ZONING IS LIMITED TO 35,000FT■!S. THIS REQUEST WOD ASK FOR THE FOLLOWING USES A LAGOON A LAGOON MAY BE CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO OR CONCURRENTLY WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIRST PHASE OF MULTIFAMILY. THERE IS NO DEADLINE FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE LAGOON MULTIFAMILY. THIS PROPOSAL INCLUDES 1200 APARTMENT UNITS AS PART OF THE VERTICAL MIXED USE BUILDING. BUILDING HEIGHT. THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROPOSED TO BE LIMITED TO 35FT AT THE SOUTHERN AND WESTERN BOUNDARIES. THE ORIGINAL PUD HAD A HEIGHT LIMIT OF 60FT. AT THESE BOUNDARIES AND ADDITIONS TO THE TRAIL SYSTEM, THERE'S AN ADDED CONNECTION TO THE BRUSHY CREEK TRAIL SYSTEM, SO AS PART OF THE EVALUATION OF THIS REQUEST, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS THE FOLLOWING OPTIONS. APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. OPTION TWO WOULD BE TO DENY THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. OPTION THREE IS TO APPROVE AN ALTERNATIVE REQUEST, WHICH INCLUDES ADDITIONAL HIGHER STANDARDS WITHIN THE PUD DOCUMENT WITH REGARDS TO DESIGN ELEMENTS TO BE ADOPTED THROUGHOUT THE SITE. THESE CAN INCLUDE ITEMS SUCH AS PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES, ALTERNATIVE LIGHTING, LANDSCAPE STANDARDS, BUILDING MATERIALS OR SIMILAR OTHER STANDARDS. IF THE COMMISSION DETERMINES THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS UNIQUE AND BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY, STAFF RECOMMENDS OPTION THREE LISTED ABOVE APPROVE AN ALTERNATIVE REQUEST, WHICH INCLUDES ADDITIONAL HIGHER STANDARDS WITHIN THE PUD DOCUMENT. IF THE COMMISSION CHOOSES OPTION TWO LISTED ABOVE, DENY THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, THEN THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE SENT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR ACTION. AT THIS CASE IS DENIED. THE APPLICANT STILL HAS THE OPTION TO DEVELOP UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR THE 35,000FT■!S OF COMMERCIAL, R SUBMIT AN UPDATED ZONING REQUEST FOR REVIEW, AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. OKAY, IS THE IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND WISHING TO SPEAK TONIGHT? OKAY, I GUESS NOT. WITH THAT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I DO HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. IF YOU DO DECIDE TO SPEAK AND HAVEN'T FILLED OUT A CARD, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD AND HAND IT OVER TO MY LEFT. CALL CLIFFORD HALL, COME ON UP. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR. CLIFFORD HALL, 604 SCENIC PATH OVERLOOK ESTATES ABUTTING THE SOUTH AND WESTERN CORNER OF THE PROPERTY. UNDER QUESTION HERE. THANK YOU, HONORABLE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND OUR CITY. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THIS, IF I WOULD. NUMBER ONE IS IN REFERENCING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THE PROPERTY'S ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY NEXT TO HORIZON LAKE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN ALLOWING, OF COURSE, THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE PARK. IT SEEMS WE ARE POSSIBLY NOT FOLLOWING THAT EXACTLY AS INTENDED WITH THIS PUD. SECONDLY, IF I MAY, I THINK[00:30:04]
SECTION F4A AND B DEMANDS CAREFUL STUDY. FIRST OF ALL, IT APPEARS FROM THE SIZE OF THE TRACK THAT THE APPLICANT'S LETTER TO US IMPLYING OUR WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY THAT WITHIN 50FT OF THE BOUNDARY WE WOULD BE LIMITED TO 35FT HEIGHT, WHEN ALL LIKELIHOOD THAT LOOKS LIKE A ROAD OR SOMETHING, OR NO DEVELOPMENT AT ALL. THAT'S. I JUST FEEL THAT WAS SLIGHTLY DECEPTIVE. IF I'M INTERPRETING DISTANCES AND COMPLEXITIES OF THIS DIAGRAM CORRECTLY AT OVERLOOK ESTATES, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT. IN FACT, THEY TALK WITH US AND THAT TRACK J AND K BE LIMITED TO TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT, AND THAT THEY FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE MADE WITH THE GABRIEL APARTMENT COMPLEX IN LEANDER CROSSING, WHERE CITY HALL APPLAUDED US FOR WORKING WITH THEM AND BUILDING ONLY TWO STORY BUILDINGS NEXT TO LEANDER CROSSING, OF WHICH I'M NOT EVEN A RESIDENT, AND I APPLAUD THAT. THIRD, I DIDN'T LIKE THE TRACT J DEVELOPMENT COULD HAVE ANY TYPE OF TEMPORARY FOR THE ENTIRE TIME, WITH THE INTENT OF TRACT J WAS TO BE THE LAST DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY. AND FOURTHLY, I WOULD SAY THAT THEY'VE TOTALLY STRUCK THE 40% DISCOUNT FOR LEANDER RESIDENTS, AND I GET THAT. BUT PERHAPS THEY WOULD CONSIDER A HIGHER DISCOUNT FOR NEIGHBORS OF OVERLOOK ESTATES AND HORIZON PARK. PERHAPS A 70% DISCOUNT. IT'S ONLY THE LAKE ACCESS, AFTER ALL. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE RIDE, THE JET SKI, OR DO THE SAILBOARD OR EAT AT THE RESTAURANTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. FINALLY, JUST THE BIG PICTURE HERE IS WATER, RIGHT? IF WE GO TO HOTELS NOWADAYS, AND IT USED TO BE WE COULD PAY $80 RIGHT TO $120, MAYBE GET A DECENT HOTEL ROOM. IT SEEMS LIKE NOW IT'S ALMOST 150 TO $150 TO GO ANYWHERE, AND WE GO TO A HOTEL. AND THE ONLY THREE THINGS WE ASK ARE THAT WE HAVE A DECENT BED, THAT IT'S SORT OF QUIET AND DARK, AND WE HAVE A DECENT SHOWER AND THAT'S IT. I HAVE GOT 17 EMAILS HERE BETWEEN MYSELF AND JUSTIN ALLEN OF THE WATER BOARD FOR TWO YEARS, TRYING TO GET THE WATER PRESSURE UP ABOVE 48 POUNDS PER SQUARE INCH. I MOVED INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AT 65 POUNDS PER SQUARE INCH. I'M SPENDING $10,000 TO XERISCAPE AND REDUCE ONE ROTOR PER ZONE JUST SO I CAN HAVE WATER TO THE GRASS THAT'S LEFT, AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE CAN'T EVEN FIX THE WATER DELIVERY, MUCH LESS THE ABILITY TO HAVE WATER. AND YET HERE WE'RE ASKING FOR 1200 APARTMENTS AND THOUSANDS OF GALLONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT, I'LL CALL A MONICA PINTO PINTADO. THANK YOU. YES, I SECOND WITH MR. PAUL. COME ON UP AND SPEAK YOUR NAME TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. AND YOUR ADDRESS. FOR FOUR FOUR SPRING LANE. AND I SECOND WHAT MR. HALL JUST SAID, AND I JUST WANT TO GO UP HERE AND SHOW YOU I AM THE RESIDENT IN THIS COLUMN. THE FIRST COLUMN. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER ONE? THE OTHER BACK THERE, THE ONE WITH THE BLUE? I'M THE RESIDENT OF SPRING LANE. THAT FIRST HOUSE, THE OTHER ONE DOWN THERE IS THERE. AND I PAY A HUGE MARKUP TO BUY THIS HOME TO YOU. IF YOU CAN COME BACK OVER TO THE MICROPHONE AND BE BETTER.IF YOU CAN SPEAK INTO THE MIC, PLEASE, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. IT'S OKAY. WE UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUR PROPERTY IS. SO I'M, I'M A RESIDENT RIGHT THERE BEHIND THAT BORDERLINE THAT YOU GOT THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD THIS THIS LAKE. MY QUESTION IS I PAID A BIG MARKUP TO HAVE WHAT'S CALLED PRIVATE GREENBELT THAT I HAVE WITH TREES BEHIND MY HOUSE. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? ARE YOU GOING TO KNOCK? ARE THEY GOING TO KNOCK DOWN THE TREE? I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? IS THERE GOING TO BE A BUFFER FOR NOISE? AND IN THAT AREA, IS IT GOING TO BE A PARKING LOT? AS A RESIDENT, I THINK I HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT WHAT WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING TO BUILD RIGHT ACROSS MY HOME, IN MY BACKYARD. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY COMMENT. IT'S LIKE I CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND. I'M NOT A LAWYER. I'M JUST A COMMON PERSON THAT HAS A NICE HOME IN A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT PURCHASED IT TO HAVE A NICE GREEN BELT. AND WHEN I SEE THIS DRAWING HERE, I'M LIKE, YOU'RE TAKING THE WHOLE GREENBELT OUT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING? YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LEAVE A BUFFER FOR THE NOISE. I MEAN, I NEED TO WE NEED CLARITY AS RESIDENTS AS TO WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT LINE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN I HAVE A ELIZABETH MOORE. IF YOU CAN COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. HI EVERYONE. I'M ELIZABETH MOORE, I LIVE AT 137 WEST WINDERMERE, THE RIDGE MOORE NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST DOWN BRUSHY CREEK. I CAME IN PART TO LEARN. I SHARE MONICA'S FRUSTRATION. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THIS LAGOON IS COMING FOR FROM. I WAS THINKING IT WAS BRUSHY CREEK. I LIVE ON BRUSHY CREEK
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AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. BUT EVEN IF IT'S SPRING WATER, WE'RE IN CENTRAL TEXAS AND IN AN AREA THAT HAS THIS HUGE INFLUX OF PEOPLE AND THERE IS NOT ENOUGH WATER AND JUST THE IDEA OF CREATING A LAGOON, A FOUR ACRE LAGOON, I THINK IS GROTESQUE. I THINK THE OPTICS ARE TERRIBLE FOR ANYONE WHO VOTES FOR IT. IT IT'S MIND BOGGLING TO ME. AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IT. AND IF IT IS BRUSHY CREEK, BRUSHY CREEK IS ALREADY SUFFERED SO MUCH WITH THE CLEAR CUTTING WITH I MEAN, ALL THE STUFF. AND OUR NEIGHBORS PULLED WATER FROM IT NEXT THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS AND THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY CAME OUT TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON BECAUSE COMPANIES OWNED THE WATER RIGHTS DOWNSTREAM. SO I, I DON'T KNOW THE SOURCE OF, OF THIS LAGOON, BUT IT COULD HAVE IMPACT, I DON'T KNOW, COMPANIES COME SUE THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW, SINCE I THOUGHT THE STAFF PRESENTATION WOULD CLARIFY IT. I I'M STILL VERY UNCLEAR, BUT I'M CONCERNED AND I THINK ANYONE WHO VOTES FOR A FOUR ACRE LAGOON IN THE CURRENT WATER SHORTAGE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE FUTURE WATER SHORTAGE, IS JUST REALLY NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT THAT. THANKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WITH THAT, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT? OKAY. WITH THAT, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL ENTER INTO DISCUSSION. I'LL START TO MY RIGHT, COMMISSIONER MORALES. YEAH, I, I HEAR YOUR CONCERNS. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW WHAT MORE IS GOING ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTIES. YOU KNOW, AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE ZONING CASES. THERE'S DIFFERENT LIKE, DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT IS DEFINITELY A CONCERN MYSELF. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY OF LEANDER ALSO NEEDS SOME POINTS OF ATTRACTIONS. AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS TO CREATE DESTINATION POINTS THERE. THERE AREN'T A TON RIGHT NOW, AND THIS PROJECT COULD BE ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, I AM HAVE MIXED FEELINGS, OBVIOUSLY, LIKE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT'S COME TO THIS POINT. BUT I THINK IN THE LONG RUN, DOES IT BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY? I DO HAVE CONCERNS THAT THE ADJACENCY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I COULD GO EITHER WAY, BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE DID APPROVE IT, I WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO ADDITIONAL OPTION OF IMPROVING THE SITE AMENITIES. THE SITE REQUIREMENTS AS OPTION THREE PRESENTED FROM THE CITY. BUT THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LEWIS. HI. AM IN THE SAME BOAT AS ALL OF YOU. I'M STILL KIND OF LEARNING HOW ALL OF THIS IS PUT TOGETHER. SO I RIGHT NOW HAVE NO COMMENT ON THAT BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL I KNOW ENOUGH YET. OKAY. COMMISSIONER LANDRY. AS FAR AS WHAT IS GOING WHERE, I DIDN'T EVEN GET INTO THAT PART OF IT BECAUSE I FEEL THAT IF WE DENY THIS, THEY CAN STILL BUILD A HOTEL. THEY CAN STILL BUILD COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF MULTIFAMILY AT THIS SITE, NOT IN FAVOR OF LAGOON, BECAUSE BOTH GO AGAINST THE CURRENT WATER ORDINANCE THAT THE SPEAKERS WERE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THERE. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WATER NOW JUST BECAUSE RECENTLY WE HAD, YOU KNOW, THE UNUSUAL AMOUNT OF WATER. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE DROUGHT IS OVER AND WE'RE STILL UNDER THE WATER ORDINANCE. SO I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE TIME TO APPROVE A LAGOON TYPE PROJECT AND ALL THAT MULTIFAMILY. I'M ALL FOR A HOTEL. I'M ALL FOR COMMERCIAL. THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE PROPER SCREENING AND BUFFERING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE THAT THEY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DO CERTAIN THINGS WHERE THEY'RE UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL AREAS. BUT I'M NOT FOR THE PUD AS IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND VICE CHAIR. I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT I'M STILL GOING TO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT REGARDING THE LAGOON, THE ACTUAL POND FEATURE OF THIS.
MY READING OF THIS IS THAT THERE IS NO DEADLINE FOR ITS COMPLETION. IS THE LAGOON PORTION OF THIS PROJECT AS DESCRIBED REQUIRED TO BE COMPLETED? IT IS REQUIRED TO BE
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COMPLETE. A LOT OF TIMES IN ZONING, WE DON'T TYPICALLY GIVE THEM A DEADLINE TO CONSTRUCT.THE LAST ONE DID BECAUSE IT WAS TIED TO THE 380 AND INCENTIVES. SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS REMOVED.
BUT THEY HAVE TO COMPLETE PHASE ONE IN ORDER. SO IF THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE BUILDING MULTIFAMILY OR OTHER PHASES, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLETE THE LAGOON IN PHASE ONE, THE LAGOON PORTION WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLETED IN ORDER TO THAT THAT TO HAPPEN. OKAY. MY READING WAS WAS NOT QUITE THAT. I THOUGHT THE LAGOON HAD BEEN REMOVED FROM ESSENTIALLY ANY, ANY ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT THAT IT WAS BUILT AND THAT OTHER ALL THE OTHER THINGS COULD COME IN BEFORE THAT. OKAY, THAT THAT CLEARS UP A LOT FOR ME, BUT THE THERE'S A CONDITION PRECEDENT TO ME GIVING A YES VOTE ON THIS THAT STAFF, I THINK SUMMARIZED NICELY IN THE IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. AND THAT WAS IF THE COMMISSION DETERMINES THAT THIS IS A UNIQUE AND BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY, THEN WE CAN VOTE YES OR AS IT IS OR YES, WITH THE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS AND CHANGES. IF THE IF THE IF THE POND PORTION WERE NOT GOING TO BE BUILT, IT WOULD ABSOLUTELY NOT BE UNIQUE. IN MY VIEW, IF THE POND PORTION IS GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT OF THIS POD, THEN I'M NOT SURE IT'S BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY. FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT A LOT OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED. I LIVE FOR A TIME IN ARIZONA AND LIVED LEARNED A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LIFESTYLE THERE ABOUT WAYS OF THINKING ABOUT WATER. AND I THINK THIS IS THE IDEA OF THIS OUTDOORS, THE EVAPORATIVE LOSS, THE STRAIN ON THE WATER SYSTEM. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOT OF RECHARGE RECENTLY, BUT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE DROUGHT STRICKEN AS ALWAYS. AND I'M NOT A FAN OF THAT. BUT IF IT'S DENIED, THEY CAN STILL DO THE 35,000FT■!S OF COMMERCIAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THAT WOULD STILL MAKE THIS A REAL DECENT DEVELOPMENT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM. THANKS FOR ANSWERING. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. YEAH, I'M A BIT CONFLICTED ON THIS ONE AS WELL BECAUSE AT ONE POINT, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT CAME TO CITY OF LANDER YEARS AGO AND PEOPLE WERE KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT IT. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A NICE FEATURE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENTS AROUND US AND SOME OF THE JUST WHERE THE CITY WANTS TO GO FOR ITS GOALS OF BEING A DESTINATION, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT'S A DESTINATION IS BEING BUILT OUTSIDE OF LEANDER, NOT IN LEANDER. SO WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF THAT OPPORTUNITY. SO ON ONE SIDE, I SEE THIS AS A POTENTIAL DESTINATION. HOWEVER, THE WATER IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE. I'VE EVEN SAID BEFORE, THIS IS NOT JUST A LEANDER ISSUE. THIS IS A CENTRAL TEXAS ISSUE. WATER. THE WATER ISSUE WE HAVE IN LEANDER IS AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT CENTRAL TEXAS. AND IT REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT EVERY SINGLE CITY AROUND HERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE STATE. RIGHT? EVEN THOUGH LAKE TRAVIS IS FILLING UP WITH THE WATER THAT'S COME IN FROM ALL THE RAINS, DOESN'T NECESSARILY RESOLVE THE ISSUE RIGHT AWAY. AND EVEN WITH THE BCRA COMING ONLINE A COUPLE OF YEARS, ALLOWING US TO PULL MORE WATER FROM ALMOST DEAD POOL STATUS, THAT HELPS BRING MORE WATER IN.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE TO STILL KEEP LAKE TRAVIS FULL, WHICH MEANS YOU STILL NEED AN ALTERNATE SOURCE OF WATER AT SOME POINT WITH ALL THE GROWTH WE HAVE HERE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONFLICTING THINGS HERE. I HAVE HEARD SOME ESTIMATES ABOUT HOW MUCH WATER THIS WOULD USE, AND I DON'T NECESSARILY REMEMBER THOSE ESTIMATES. SO I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, QUOTE THOSE. BUT I MY FIRST QUESTION TO Y'ALL, DO YOU ALL UNDERSTAND LIKE WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE LAGOON. IS THIS GOING TO BE A SWIMMING FEATURE FOR PEOPLE TO, TO I GUESS RECREATE IN I MEAN, LOOKING AT THE PICTURES IT LOOKS LIKE CANCUN AND I'VE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT THAT SOUNDS GREAT AND ALL, BUT I DON'T KNOW IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE, OR IS THAT JUST SMOKE AND MIRRORS? I WAS GOING TO SAY, I THINK WE'VE ONLY SEEN THE RENDERINGS. I THINK WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. YEAH. I REALLY WISH THEY WERE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I THINK THEY COULD PROBABLY MAKE A BETTER CASE TO POSSIBLY SAVE THIS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WHERE I AM ON THE FENCE, I'M LEANING ON THE SIDES OF DENIAL BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THIS DEVELOPMENT. NOT TO MENTION, I READ THE AUSTIN BUSINESS JOURNAL A LITTLE WHILE BACK AND THEY SAID THIS PROJECT WAS DEAD. AND THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT HERE TO REPRESENT THEMSELVES TELLS ME THAT THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON. AND THEN I SEE NO DEADLINES ON A NUMBER OF THESE WHERE LIKE, WHY? WHY DO WE HAVE PHASE ONE WITH WITH NO DEADLINE? I WAS JUST JUST GOING TO SIT AROUND AND HANG OUT IN PERPETUITY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, DEVELOP THIS LAND, BUT TO VICE CHAIRS POINT, I MEAN, WE WANT A DESTINATION AND 35,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL MIGHT BE NICE, BUT AND JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, THERE THERE ARE SPECIFIC SETBACK AND BUFFER REQUIREMENTS WITH COMMERCIAL AND TRANSITION TO RESIDENTIAL. SO I UNDERSTAND
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THERE'S SOME GREENBELT CONCERNS AND ISSUES THERE. BUT BUT THE CITY DOES HAVE VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO STUFF LIKE THAT THAT DO PROTECT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND CREATE A NICE TRANSITION FROM THAT TO GENERAL OR LIGHT COMMERCIAL. THE MULTIFAMILY, LIKE COMMISSIONER LANDGRAF SAID, I'M I'M NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST THAT COMPLETELY AS THIS DEVELOPMENT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, KIND OF LIKE A NORTH LINE DEVELOPMENT OR LIKE THE DOMAIN.I THINK PROBABLY ONE OF MY BIGGER CONCERNS REALLY IS THE WATER FEATURE. AND I'M LIKE, AND ULTIMATELY THE JUST, I GUESS THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE DEVELOPER AND WHAT AND WHERE THEY'VE BEEN AND OR NOT BEEN IN THIS CASE. AND SO I ALMOST WONDER, LIKE, IF THIS PROJECT WERE SHIFTED FROM A LAGOON TO PERHAPS LIKE MAYBE A WATER RETENTION FEATURE. I LIVE IN A COMMUNITY THAT HAS A WATER RETENTION POND. IT'S ALSO FED BY A WELL, BUT IT'S NOT. IT'S FED BY RAIN AND BY WELL. BUT ULTIMATELY, IF IT GETS REALLY LOW, WE JUST DON'T REFILL IT. AND THEN WHEN THE RAIN COMES, IT FILLS IT BACK UP. BUT IT'S A NICE LITTLE SMALL WATER FEATURE THAT PEOPLE CAN HANG OUT. SOME PEOPLE STOCK IT WITH FISH AND BASS AND GO FISHING OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW, ONE BOAT'S ON IT OR KAYAKS ON IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR THAT. BUT THE POINT IS, THIS COULD BE A NICE WATER FEATURE LIKE YOU HAVE OVER AT 360 AND OVER AT THE 183 AND 360 OVER THERE. SO THAT'S A THAT'S WHY I JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING MAYBE THEY REPURPOSED THAT IDEA, THE LAGOON INTO SOMETHING THAT'S MAYBE MORE USEFUL, THAT CAN RETAIN WATER, BUT NOT NECESSARILY PULL WATER DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY. AND WHAT I HEARD MIGHT BE MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER. AND WE'RE ALREADY PULLING ABOUT 13 MILLION. WHAT IS IT? I FORGET THE ACTUAL MEASUREMENT, BUT WE'RE PULLING 13 MILLION GALLONS A DAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT MORE NEXT MONTH AS IT GETS HOTTER, BUT THEN EVENTUALLY IT KIND OF GOES DOWN. AND THE CITY DOES SEEM SEEM TO REACT PRETTY WELL WHEN WE ASK THEM TO DIAL BACK ON THE WATER USAGE. SO BUT WE'RE STILL GROWING. SO ANYWAY, I'M. YEAH, I REALLY WISH THE APPLICANT WAS HERE AND MAYBE WE COULD GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INSIGHT. I CAN SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT. OKAY. ARE YOU THE APPLICANT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND MAYBE TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOUR DEVELOPMENT AND GIVE US SOME INSIGHT OF WHAT'S GOING ON? YOU JUST. YEAH, JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND PLEASE. CONKLIN WITH ISLAND DEVELOPMENT GROUP. SORRY, I SHOULD TURN MY PHONE OFF TO ADDRESS THE WATER ISSUE. WE HAVE A WELL ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE DRILLED AT OUR AT WATER. QUITE. IT'S COSTLY. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE WATER WOULD BE COMING FROM. AND WE WOULD JUST WE WOULD FILL IT ONE TIME WITH THE CITY'S WATER AND THEN WE'D USE THE WELL. SO THERE'S REALLY NO WATER COMING FROM THE CITY. AND I ACTUALLY I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF THAT'S I DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS ON UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT QUITE PREPARED FOR THIS AS FAR AS WHAT THE LAGOON WILL BE USED FOR. YES, IT'S FOR SWIMMING AND FOR KAYAKING AND THERE'LL PROBABLY BE AN OBSTACLE COURSE AND MAYBE A SURF PARK THERE TO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS DO WE HAVE? DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. NO, NO I'M GOOD. ALL RIGHT. WELL THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM. SO I WILL LET SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION. MOTION TO DENY.
SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. I HAVE A MOTION TO DENY FROM VICE CHAIR AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANTRIP. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? DENIAL. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. THANK YOU, YOU YOU DENY? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN ALL THOSE IN AGAINST IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S DENIED 4 TO 1 WITH COMMISSIONER MORALES BEING THE ONE DISSENT. DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT WHY. YOU KNOW, LIKE, SO OBVIOUSLY I LIVE IN LEANDER AND WE'RE ON THE COMMISSION, AND I THINK ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I THINK ABOUT CREATING DESTINATIONS. I WANT A PLACE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE MY FAMILY. AND I'M SEEING EVERY CITY AROUND US GET DEVELOPMENTS FROM CEDAR PARK, LIBERTY HILL.
THIS IS ONE OF THE TWO, ONE THAT I THOUGHT WAS AN ACTUAL REAL DESTINATION. OUR OTHER ONES WOULD BRING PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY. THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE ONE OF THE FEW THAT WE WOULD BRING PEOPLE FROM SURROUNDING AREAS. AND. AND YEAH, I KNOW THE LAGOON USES WATER, BUT IT IS A FEATURE THAT I THINK WOULD ATTRACT PEOPLE FROM JUST OUTSIDE OF LEANDER, GENERATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY, CREATE THAT HUB. AND I KNOW SOME OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS AREN'T AREN'T QUITE THERE. WHEN I THINK DESTINATION, I THINK A WALKABLE I LOOK AT THE RENDERINGS YOU HAD A LITTLE BOARDWALK, OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT PART I, I COULD, I WOULD GET EXCITED, TAKE MY KIDS
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TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW. LEANDER. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY I VOTED. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT. AND JUST TO GET IT RIGHT, IT WAS VICE CHAIR.YOU DID MAKE THE MOTION OR COMMISSIONER LANDRIEU SECONDED. THAT'S THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. GOOD. COMMISSIONER MORALES, THOSE ARE GOOD POINTS. YEAH. NO, THEY'RE GREAT POINTS. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ON THE FENCE WITH THIS ONE, TOO. HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT I MEAN, YOU COME IN HERE AND I CERTAINLY HOPE THEY'RE MORE PREPARED WHEN THEY GO TO COUNCIL
[9. Discuss and consider action on recommendations from the Planning & Zoning Commission for the FY 2025/2026 City Budget and Capital Improvement Program (CIP) Plan.]
BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S JUST YEAH UNFORTUNATE. SO WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. AND THIS IS DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ON RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2526 CITY BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PLAN. HI. GOOD EVENING, KARINA CASTILLO. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE CHARTER CALLS FOR THE COMMISSION TO SUBMIT A LIST OF RECOMMENDED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE DESIRED TO BE IMPLEMENTED WITH THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE CITY IS CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THE PLAN, AND THE PROCESS IS ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR. DESPITE THE PENDING CHANGES, THE COMMISSION STILL HAS THE ABILITY TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE CURRENT GOALS AND GOALS. STATEMENTS LISTED IN THE ADOPTED PLAN. WE DO HAVE ATTACHMENTS ONE THROUGH FOUR IN THIS ITEM, AND THEY INCLUDE THE IMPLEMENTATION TABLES FROM THE COMP PLAN, THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN AND THE US 183 CORRIDOR STUDY. THE CITY HAS COMPLETED SEVERAL GOALS AND IS CONTINUOUSLY WORKING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLANS IN THE STUDY. ATTACHMENT TWO INCLUDES THE SUMMARY OF THE GOALS THAT WAS PRESENTED EARLIER THIS YEAR TO YOU GUYS, AND IT SHOWCASED THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND PROGRESS DURING THE 2024 AND EARLY 2025. THERE IS A LIST THAT WE'VE PROVIDED OF PROPOSED PROJECTS THAT MAY BE CONSIDERED IN THE CIP PLAN EVERY YEAR THAT ARE DEVELOPED, WHICH IS DEVELOPED FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOALS AND ADOPTED STUDIES. BELOW ARE THE PROPOSALS THAT YOU COULD INCLUDE. THESE ARE JUST KIND OF SUGGESTIONS FROM THINGS THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED. SORRY, I'M READING THE WRONG LIST. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED AND SUGGESTED FOR THE COMP, THE CIP PLAN, AND THEN THE PREVIOUS SORRY. THE NEXT LIST IS PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMISSION THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AND ARE SUGGESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS, BUT WE'RE HERE TO HEAR YOU OUT AND SEE WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO PROPOSE FOR THE CIP PLAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL OPEN UP TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YOU ARE THE APPLICANT. GREAT. JUST MAKING SURE. ARE THESE BEYOND THE PROJECTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE KIND OF ON THE ON THIS COMPREHENSIVE LIST HERE. YES. SO THE FIRST LIST IS THE ONES THAT WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED FOR AND WERE BEING CONSIDERED. SO THOSE ARE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR. BUT THEN YOU GUYS STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS OUTSIDE OF THAT. AND WE'VE KIND OF CREATED A LIST OF THINGS THAT YOU'VE PREVIOUSLY SUGGESTED OR WE'VE PREVIOUSLY HEARD. AND THESE ARE JUST SUGGESTIONS TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE THINKING, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ADDITIONAL. I MEAN, THE ONE THING I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY IS JUST CONNECTING IS IT'S MORE OF A TRANSPORTATION. SO IT BUT IT'S MORE ALONG THE LINES OF LIKE WALKABLE, RIDEABLE TRAILS. I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF SIDEWALKS AND A LOT OF TRAILS THAT ALREADY CURRENTLY EXIST. AND I THINK WE EXIST IN A UNIQUE GEOGRAPHIC LANDSCAPE WITHIN LEANDER THAT WE CAN CONNECT A LOT OF THESE TOGETHER WITH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA WORK, MAYBE SOME OVERPASSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I KNOW THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME TALK THERE. THERE'S SOME PLANS IN HERE FOR MAYBE LIKE DOING LIKE A WALKING BRIDGE THROUGH OLD TOWN LEANDER OVER ACROSS 103. AND I KNOW THAT'S PART OF ALSO THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE THAT COME TO FRUITION SOMEDAY. BUT I YEAH, MY SUGGESTION WOULD JUST BE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING TRAIL AND KIND OF CONNECTING LIKE WESTERN LEANDER AND SOME OF THE AREAS ALONG THE CREEK OUTWARD TOWARDS RONALD REAGAN TO EASTERN LEANDER AND MAYBE EVEN OVER TO LIKE JOURNEY TO THAT FAR EXTENT OF WHERE LEANDER CITY LIMITS ARE. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. LIKE RIGHT NOW, I THINK BRUSHY CREEK IS CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF WHERE IT'S WAITING FOR DEVELOPMENT TO BUILD SOME OF THOSE TRAILS, AND SO I'D LOVE TO SEE US KIND OF HELP SPEARHEAD SOME SORT OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT TO FAST FORWARD SOME OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, OR AT LEAST THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TRAIL ITSELF. THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT WAS JUST ADOPTING MAYBE A POLICY LIKE AN EV BIKE VEHICLE POLICY ALONG THESE TRAILS, LIKE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, IS ACTUALLY ADOPTED WITH SOME OF THEIR TRAIL SYSTEMS AND NETWORKS, WHERE PEOPLE CAN USE IT TO GET FROM PARTS OF THE CITY THROUGH THE TRAIL NETWORK WITHOUT HAVING TO USE THE STREETS. BUT THEY CAN ALSO USE ELECTRIC BIKES AS WELL, WITHIN CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, BOUNDARIES AND STIPULATIONS THERE. THAT WOULD NOT BE CIP, BUT IT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION. YES, IT WOULD NOT BE CORRECT. BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME REGULATIONS THERE AS WELL. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN
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ALSO DO BEYOND THIS. THAT'S BEYOND OUR PURVIEW. BUT THAT'S THAT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION. IT WAS JUST CONNECTING OUR EXISTING TRAILS, MAYBE BUILDING SOME NEW ONES TO BRING THEM CLOSER TOGETHER AND MAKE THE CITY A LOT MORE WALKABLE AND TRANSPORTABLE VIA THE TRAIL SYSTEM VERSUS THE STREETS. OKAY, OKAY. MR. CHAIRMAN, SINCE WE WERE JUST GIVEN THIS LIST OF 100 PROJECTS JUST RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED, I, I KNOW WE'RE ON A TIME SCHEDULE, AND Y'ALL, Y'ALL NEED THIS, BUT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO HAVE TIME TO REVIEW THIS MORE THOROUGHLY AND THEN COME BACK AND ADD TO IT? BECAUSE WHAT I WANT MAY BE IN HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, FIVE MINUTES WAS NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR ME TO STUDY THIS. YEAH. SO WE WILL BE BRINGING BACK THE CIP PLAN ALTOGETHER. AND AT THAT TIME YOU'LL BE TAKING ACTION AND YOU CAN ADD TO IT. SO YOU CAN DO IT THAT WAY. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PREFER TO DO. BUT I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST IT'S JUST ME. I WANTED TO GO THROUGH THIS MORE THOROUGHLY. DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY IDEAS THAT YOU WANTED TO SHARE? MAYBE STAFF COULD ALSO HELP GO THROUGH IT. LIKE IF THERE ARE THINGS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, WE COULD SEE IF THEY'RE ALREADY ON THE LIST BETWEEN NOW AND THEN KIND OF GET A HEAD START. PART OF IT IS THE CITY MANAGER'S REVIEWING THIS LIST AS WELL, SO IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO JUST START WITH, BUT WE COULD ALWAYS ADD TO IT. I DO FOR SURE. LOOKING AT THE LIST ON THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, A LOT OF IT IS INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND CHAIR, I LIKE YOUR IDEAS ABOUT THINGS FOR RECREATION LIKE THE TRAIL SYSTEM AND WHATNOT. BUT THE VERY FIRST ITEM ON THAT LIST, THE WAYFINDING SIGN IN OLD TOWN, THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE EXPENSIVE ENOUGH TO REALLY QUALIFY AS A CAPITAL. SO IT WOULD BE DOING A PLAN FOR WAYFINDING AND GATEWAY. OH, WHAT A PLAN. SO WE WOULD BE DOING A STUDY TO SEE WHERE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THOSE LOCATIONS.OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE AN OVERALL CITY PROJECT OKAY. BUT BUT SPECIFIC TO OLD TOWN, SOME OF IT WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO OLD TOWN. SOME OF IT WOULD BE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, LIKE THE GATEWAY WOULD BE CITY WIDE. OKAY. THEN WAYFINDING WOULD BE IN OLD TOWN AND SEEING IF THERE'S ANY OTHER DISTRICTS IN THE CITY THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THAT. OKAY. AND WE SAY WAYFINDING SIGN. TELL ME, TELL ME WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE. OLD TOWN THIS WAY. OH YEAH. THAT WAY. YEAH. THE PARKS ARE THIS WAY. YEAH. OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE FIGURING OUT WHERE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. OKAY. AND AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS COULD BE A CITY WIDE EFFORT WHERE WE LOOK AT I MEAN, LEANDER IS WEIRDLY SHAPED, RIGHT? AND WE'VE GOT ALL THESE DIFFERENT POCKETS THAT MAY NOT HAVE THE OLD CHARM CHARACTER OF OLD TOWN, BUT THEY ARE CHARACTERS. THEY'RE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. YEAH. A WHILE BACK WE PASSED THAT ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT FEATURE, LOOKING AT VARIOUS PLACES, EVEN IF THERE ARE STRIP MALLS, EVEN IF THERE'S SORT OF A CONGLOMERATION OF BUILDINGS, WOULD THEY MAKE SENSE TO, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO HELP THEM WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HAVE THOSE WAYFINDING SIGNS THAT POINT TO ALL THE VARIOUS COOL THINGS WITHIN IT? THAT'S OKAY. I LOVE THAT IDEA. I MEAN, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT IT WAS CITY WIDE, BECAUSE THAT WAS KIND OF THE IDEA I WAS GOING TO. BUT CAN WE MAKE THIS ALL OVER THE PLACE, NOT JUST FOR OLD TOWN? AND OKAY, COOL THAT FOR ME. I MEAN, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE OBVIOUSLY REALLY IMPORTANT. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IF WE USE THE DECISION CRITERIA OF INCREASED SALES TAX REVENUE AS A DRIVER FOR THE CREATIVITY AND THE THOUGHT PROCESS, THAT THAT THAT IS GOING TO GET US SOMEWHERE REALLY GOOD. SO THANKS. THANK YOU. GOOD POINT. I MEAN, KEEP IN MIND HALF OF OUR SALES TAX DOES STILL GO TO THE CAPITAL METRO AND THE TRAIN TO FUND THAT. BUT THEY'RE ALSO WORKING IN CONJUNCTION TO CREATE SOME PROJECTS AND TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS TO USE THOSE DOLLARS TO INVEST BACK. SO MAYBE MAYBE THERE'S SOME THINGS WE CAN SUGGEST THERE ARE THERE. WHICH DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY NUMBER OF ITEMS ON HERE ARE USING SOME OF THOSE CAPITAL METRO FUNDS RIGHT NOW? NOT YEAH. OKAY. I GUESS WE'LL JUST HAVE TO GO BACK AND REVIEW THEM. I DID SEE SOME CALLED OUT IN HERE. I JUST THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PROBABLY MAYBE CALL THOSE OUT SPECIFICALLY. ANY OF THOSE HAVE TO BE SORT OF QUASI TRANSPORTATION RELATED. THEY'LL ALL BE TRANSPORTATION RELATED UNDER THE PROJECT. I MEAN, DEPARTMENT. YEAH. YEAH. AND SOME SIGNAGE MIGHT ARGUABLY BE TORTURED INTO BEING A QUALIFYING AS A TRANSPORTATION RELATED.
ALSO IT MENTIONS INFRASTRUCTURE. DO WE CONSIDER LIKE LIKE NEW LIKE CITY BUILDINGS. SO LIKE A NEW FIRE STATION OR IS THAT CONSIDERED INFRASTRUCTURE. WOULD THAT FALL UNDER THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. SO I GUESS ONCE AGAIN I BREEZED THROUGH SEVERAL ASPECTS OF THIS. I DIDN'T I DIDN'T READ IT ALL, BUT LIKE WHERE WOULD FIRE STATION NUMBER SIX AND LAND ACQUISITION IS THAT ON HERE? DO YOU ALL KNOW OR I DON'T KNOW IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. SO THERE IS A MASTER PLAN FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND THAT DOES GET WORKED INTO THIS. OKAY. BECAUSE I, BECAUSE I HAVE LIKE, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY VEHICLE PREEMPTION FOR ALL SIGNALS. BUT I DON'T HAVE I
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WASN'T SEEING WHERE WE HAD ANY ON THERE. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FUNDING FOR THAT IN THE PAST. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY. SO YOU COULD HAVE AN ITEM THAT IS FACILITIES BECAUSE THAT'S RELATED TO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOAL OKAY. SO IT MAY BE MAKING A FACILITIES MASTER PLAN OR IMPLEMENTING SOME ELEMENT OF IT, BUT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD IDENTIFY. OKAY. THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING I THINK SHOULD BE A PRIORITY. YEAH. SO WHAT ACTION DO WE NEED TO TAKE HERE DIRECTOR. WELL I BELIEVE THAT COMMISSIONER LANTRIP IS ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL TIME. OKAY, SO IT MIGHT BE POSTPONING ACTION UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING SO Y'ALL CAN GET YOUR THOUGHTS TOGETHER. OKAY, I'M. I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, COMMISSIONER? LANTRIP? SURE. MAKE A MOTION. WE POSTPONE THIS TILL THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. ANYBODY SECOND. ALL RIGHT. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE BY COMMISSIONER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MORALES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO POSTPONE. OKAY, WE WILL POSTPONE TO THE NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT,* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.