[1. Open Meeting.]
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          GOOD EVENING. TODAY IS THURSDAY, AUGUST 7TH, 2025 AND THE TIME IS 6:01 P.M. AND THIS IS THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP OF THE CITY COUNCIL. CITY SECRETARY CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER STEVEN CHANG, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER MICHAEL HERRERA HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONNELL HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM NICOLE THOMPSON, PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW NODDING PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER BECKY ROSS HERE. MAYOR CHRISTINE DELLA HERE. QUORUM IS PRESENT. 
          [3. Convene into Executive Session pursuant to:
Section 551.071, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05 Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding acquisition of property for public purpose; andSection 551.071, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05 Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding Cause No. 20-0217-C425 Daniel Brown, Maria Brown, and ZG Properties, LLC v. City of Leander, and Section 551.071, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05, Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding development impact on flooding; andSection 551.071, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05, Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) No. 1 reimbursements; andSection 551.087, Texas Government Code, deliberate the purchase, exchange, lease, or value of real property and deliberate proposed economic development incentives for one or more business prospects that the governmental body seeks to have locate, stay, or expand in or near the territory of the governmental body is conducting economic development negotiations along with consideration and possible action on a Chapter 380 Agreement for Project EDA-25-007; andSection 551.089, Texas Government Code, deliberation regarding deployments relating to information resources technology. 
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COUNCIL IS ELIGIBLE TO BE BUSINESS. I AM NUMBER THREE WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO NUMBER ONE, SECTION 55 1.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND SECTION 1.05 TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT, TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE. AND NUMBER TWO, SECTION 55 1.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 1.05 TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING CAUSE NUMBER 20 0217C425 DANIEL BROWN, MARIA BROWN AND ZG PROPERTIES LLC VERSUS CITY OF LEANDER, NUMBER THREE, SECTION 551.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE IN SECTION 1.05 TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING DEVELOPMENT IMPACT ON FLOODING. NUMBER FOUR, SECTION 551.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE IN SECTION 1.05 TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER ONE REIMBURSEMENTS. NUMBER FIVE. 
          SECTION 551.087 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY AND DELIBERATE PROPOSED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES FOR ONE OR MORE BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE, STAY, OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE TERRITORY OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, ALONG WITH CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENT FOR PROJECT EDA 25007 AND NUMBER SIX, SECTION 551.089 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE DELIBERATION REGARDING DEPLOYMENTS RELATING TO INFORMATION RESOURCES THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION AT 7:06 P.M. TO 
          [ Reconvene into open session to take action as deemed appropriate in the City Council's discretion regarding:Acquisition of property for public purpose; andCause No. 20-0217-C425 Daniel Brown, Maria Brown, and ZG Properties, LLC v. City of Leander; andDevelopment impact on flooding; andTax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) No. 1 reimbursements; andChapter 380 Agreement for Project EDA-25-007; and Deployments relating to information resources technology. 
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TAKE ACTION AS DEEMED. OH, NO. WE ARE REASSESSING OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION RIGHT THERE. NO, MA'AM. 
          WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO BACK IN. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN OUR BRIEFING WORKSHOP 
          [4. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.]
AND START INTO OUR REGULAR MEETING. SO TODAY IS THURSDAY, AUGUST 7TH, 2025. AND THE TIME IS NOW 7:06 P.M. AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL. TONIGHT WE ARE GOING TO RECEIVE AN INVOCATION BY LEANDER FIRE AND POLICE CHAPLAIN JOE BOB ELLISON. AFTER THE INVOCATION, PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. 
          FATHER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO BE HERE JUST TO CELEBRATE THIS WONDERFUL CITY. NOT JUST YOUR BUSINESS, FATHER, BUT JUST HONOR EACH OF THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA. FATHER, THANK YOU FOR OUR POLICE AND FIRE AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TEAM. AND, FATHER, I JUST WANT TO LIFT UP IN PRAYER. MAYOR CHRISTINE MAYOR PRO TEM THOMPSON. COUNCILMAN CHANG. COUNCILMAN. HERRERA. COUNCILMAN. MCDONALD. COUNCILMAN. NORTON. COUNCILMAN. 
          WOMAN. ROSS AND CITY MANAGER. PARTNER. AND OF COURSE, I CAN NEVER FORGET OUR CITY MANAGER, DORA CRABTREE AND DEBORAH BURKE. AND I PRAY, FATHER, THAT YOU CONTINUE JUST TO GIVE THEM DISCERNMENT AND WISDOM IN THEIR DAY IN, DAY OUT ACTIVITIES. THANK YOU FOR THEIR VOLUNTEER TIME THAT THEY CONTINUE TO GIVE DAY IN AND DAY OUT TO LEAD OUR CITY. AND JUST FOR THE CARE AND THE LOVE THAT THEY SHOW TO ALL OF THE STAFF OF THE CITY, FROM PUBLIC WORKS TO PARKS TO FIRE, PD AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN, WE LOVE YOU, JESUS. AMEN. FATHER. ALL THAT, THE PLANNING NEEDS TO BE, THAT THEY. AND THANK YOU, JOE. BOB, ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE. ALL RIGHT. I AM 
          [5. Roll Call.]
NUMBER FIVE, CITY SECRETARY. CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER STEVEN CHANG, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER MICHAEL HERRERA HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD HERE. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM NICOLE THOMPSON, PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW. NADINE HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BECKY ROSS HERE. MAYOR CHRISTINE DELLA HERE. QUORUM IS PRESENT. COUNCIL. COUNCIL IS ELIGIBLE TO 
          [6. Public comments on items not listed in the agenda.
Public comments on items listed in the agenda will be heard at the time each item is discussed.
[All comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual.]]
DO BUSINESS I AM NUMBER SIX IS NON AGENDA ITEM. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA I WILL CALL ON SPEAKERS PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE AGENDA ITEM DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED COMMENTS VIA THE WEBSITE WILL ONLY HAVE PETITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD. ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL AND BE MADE A PART OF 
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THE OFFICIAL RECORD. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT PUBLIC COMMENT TIME IS A TIME FOR YOU TO TALK TO US, BUT IT'S NOT A TIME THAT WE CAN HAVE BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE 
          [7. Recognitions/Proclamations/Visitors.National Golf Month Proclamation Safe and Secure Week Proclamation (August 11 - 15)]
DELIBERATION WITH THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. WAS THERE ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN RECOGNITIONS, PROCLAMATIONS AND VISITORS. FIRST UP, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL GOLF MONTH WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CHING. WHEREAS GOLF PROMOTES PHYSICAL FITNESS, MENTAL FOCUS AND SOCIAL CONNECTION, OFFERING PLAYERS OF ALL AGES A CHANCE TO ENJOY THE OUTDOORS, CHALLENGE THEMSELVES AND BUILD LASTING RELATIONSHIPS. AND WHEREAS NATIONAL GOLF MONTH IS A TIME TO CELEBRATE THE LEGACY AND GROWING POPULARITY OF GOLF ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND ENCOURAGE NEW AND SEASONED PLAYERS ALIKE TO PARTICIPATE. AND WHEREAS, CRYSTAL FALLS GOLF CLUB IN LEANDER IS A PREMIER DESTINATION FOR GOLFERS IN CENTRAL TEXAS AND BEYOND. KNOWN FOR ITS SCENIC BEAUTY, WELCOMING ATMOSPHERE AND EXCELLENT COURSE DESIGN. AND WHEREAS CRYSTAL FALLS GOLF COURSE PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO PARTICIPATE IN TOURNAMENTS, YOUTH PROGRAMS AND RECREATIONAL PLAY, CONTRIBUTING TO THE HEALTH, WELLNESS, AND ECONOMIC VITALITY OF LEANDER. 
          AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF LEANDER RECOGNIZES THE VALUE OF GOLF AND FOSTERING SPORTSMANSHIP, DISCIPLINE, AND RELATIONSHIP BUILDING, NOW, THEREFORE, THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM AUGUST 2025 AS NATIONAL GOLF MONTH IN LEANDER ENCOURAGES ALL CITIZENS TO TAKE PART IN THE JOY OF GOLF, WHETHER BY VISITING CRYSTAL FALLS GOLF COURSE, SUPPORTING LOCAL GOLF INITIATIVES, OR SIMPLY ENJOYING THE GAMES. THE GAME WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY IN WITNESS THEREOF. 
          WE HAVE SET OUR HANDS AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF LEANDER TO BE AFFIXED ON AUGUST 7TH, 2025. GOLF COURSE GENERAL MANAGER WERNER. WHO ARE OUR GUESTS TONIGHT? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THAT. CITY MANAGER. HAVE THE PLEASURE TONIGHT OF HAVING THE REASON WHY THE GOLF COURSE IS DOING SO WELL STANDING BEHIND ME. THESE ARE SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR SUCCESS AND HOW WELL WE ARE DOING AT THIS POINT. SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE THEM COME DOWN, GET A LITTLE BIT OF RECOGNITION, FACE TIME WITH YOU FOLKS, YOU KNOW, SO I APPRECIATE IT. AND THANKS SO MUCH. I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY DECIDED TO DO GOLF MONTH IN AUGUST WHEN IT'S SO DOGGONE HOT, BUT WE'LL TAKE IT. IT'S WHEN WE REALLY WANT YOU TO KNOW YOU'RE APPRECIATED. YES, MA'AM. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND Y'ALL SHOULD KNOW, WE GET COMPLIMENTS ON THE GOLF COURSE ALL THE TIME. AND THE LAST FEW YEARS ESPECIALLY, I THINK SOME OF THE CHANGES HAVE BEEN SO POPULAR AND Y'ALL ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB OUT THERE AND WE APPRECIATE YOU. CAN WE DO A PHOTO WITH YOU? ALL RIGHT. MR. MAXWELL, THANK. YOU. 
          SURE. ALL. RIGHT. OVER HERE BY THE PHOTOGRAPHER. GET IN THERE. A LITTLE. 
          GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. OKAY. GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. 
          LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. YEAH. OH. 
          YEAH. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. AND UP NEXT IS A PROCLAMATION FOR SAFE AND SOUND WEEK WITH COUNCILMEMBER NOTING, OKAY, THE NEXT PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS THE RESIDENTS OF LEANDER VALUE SAFE AND HEALTHY WORKPLACES FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS. AND WHEREAS THE MAJORITY OF WORKPLACE INJURIES AND FATALITIES ARE PREVENTABLE, HOWEVER, MORE THAN 5000 U.S. WORKERS DIE EACH YEAR FROM JOB 
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RELATED INJURIES, AND MILLIONS MORE SUFFER OCCUPATIONAL INJURIES AND ILLNESSES. AND WHEREAS BUSINESSES SPEND $170 BILLION A YEAR ON COSTS TIED TO OCCUPATIONAL INJURIES, ILLNESSES AND HEALTHCARE, AS WELL AS FACING INTANGIBLE COSTS OF LOSING A LOVED ONE, FRIEND OR COWORKER. AND WHEREAS ORGANIZATIONS WITH SAFER WORKPLACES ENJOY INCREASED PRODUCTIVITY, HIGHER EMPLOYEE SATISFACTION, AND A BETTER REPUTATION AND AN IMPROVED BOTTOM LINE. AND WHEREAS DURING THE WEEK OF AUGUST 11TH THROUGH THE 15TH, THE OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HAZARD AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION, THE MEMBERSHIP OF LEADING SAFETY PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS AND CORPORATE AND ASSOCIATION PARTNERS REPRESENTING THOUSANDS OF BUSINESSES WILL RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF SAFETY AND HEALTH PROGRAMS IN EVERY WORKPLACE AND ENCOURAGE ORGANIZATIONS TO HOLD SAFETY AS A CORE VALUE. NOW, THEREFORE, WE, THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM AUGUST 11TH THROUGH 15TH TO BE SAFE AND SOUND WEEK IN THE CITY OF LEANDER AND ENCOURAGE ALL ORGANIZATIONS, COMMUNITY LEADERS, EMPLOYERS, AND EMPLOYEES TO SUPPORT ACTIVITIES DESIGNED TO INCREASE AWARENESS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF SAFE WORKPLACES FOR ALL. IN WITNESS THEREOF, WE HERE.TO ON SET OUR HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF LEANDER TO BE AFFIXED ON AUGUST 7TH, 2025. SO TONIGHT, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE WELCOMING UP SAFETY AND RISK MANAGER FUENTES, I THINK. WELCOME, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'M VICTOR FUENTES, OUR DANNY FUENTES, THE SAFETY AND RISK MANAGER FOR THE CITY. SO OSHA SAFE AND SOUND WEEK IS HELD IN AUGUST 11TH TO THE 17TH. 
          AND THIS IS A NATIONWIDE EVENT THAT RECOGNIZES THE SUCCESS OF WORKPLACE SAFETY AND HEALTH PROGRAMS AND ENCOURAGES ORGANIZATIONS TO BUILD PROACTIVE SAFETY CULTURES. OSHA ALSO HIGHLIGHTS THE IMPORTANCE OF WORKPLACE SAFETY DURING THIS WEEK BY GIVING PARTICIPANTS ADDITIONAL CHALLENGES TO PROMOTE WORKPLACE SAFETY. THE CITY OF LEANDER SAFETY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS RIGHT BEHIND ME AND IS TASKED WITH VARIOUS CHALLENGES TO PROMOTE SAFETY IN THEIR DEPARTMENT AND ENHANCE SAFETY CULTURE. THIS EVENT IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY EVENTS THAT THE SAFETY COMMITTEE WILL PARTICIPATE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AS OF TODAY, OUR SAFETY COMMITTEE IS CONSIST OF 22 MEMBERS, EACH REPRESENTING MANY DEPARTMENTS OF OUR CITY. OUR 22 CITY 22 MEMBER COMMITTEE ENSURES CONTINUOUS YEAR ROUND SAFETY AWARENESS, AND THIS AWARENESS ENHANCES OUR SAFETY CULTURE IN EVERY DEPARTMENT. TODAY WE HAVE A FEW A FEW OF THE MEMBERS OF THE SAFETY COMMITTEE ALONG WITH HR DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT PRESENT HERE TO ACCEPT AND PROMOTE SAFE AND SOUND WEEK PROCLAMATION. VERY NICE. HAVING SAID THANK YOU. REALIZE THAT. 
          THERE ARE SOME OTHER. THINGS THAT. READY. IS THERE ANYTHING GOING ON THAT YOU WANT TO SKIP? I DON'T THINK. ARE YOU READY? SMILE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AS YOU. READY? YES. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. AND THIS ITEM IS CALLED RECOGNITIONS, PROCLAMATIONS AND VISITORS. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT A NUMBER OF LEANDERS FINEST ARE VISITING US TONIGHT. GUYS, YOU ARE WELCOME. ANYTIME WE TALK ABOUT REALLY FUN THINGS LIKE DRAINAGE AND POLICY. BUT 
          [ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
HOPEFULLY TONIGHT IS A LITTLE MORE FUN. CONSENT COUNCIL YOU'LL BE CONSIDERING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS EIGHT THROUGH 15. THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM I MOVED TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION AND A 
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SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER 16 IS 
          [16. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-24-0114 to amend the Leander Springs Planned Unit Development with base zoning districts of MF-2-A (Multi-Family) and GC-3-A (General Commercial) to update the language as it relates to phasing and timing of the development, reduce the total number of apartments, and modify the phasing requirements on two (2) parcels of land approximately 77.90 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R403524 and R051592; and generally located southwest of the intersection of 183A Toll Road and RM 2243, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.  [Postponed due to City staff publication error.]]
          [17. Discuss and consider action on the Second Reading of an Ordinance regarding Ordinance Case OR-25-0030 to amend the Composite Zoning Ordinance to adopt standards and a permitting process associated with Micro-Trenching, and to provide for related matters; Williamson and Travis Counties, Texas. [Postponed until August 21, 2025, to allow City staff time to evaluate comments provided by the private sector.]]
POSTPONED DUE TO A CITY STAFF PUBLICATION ERROR. MOVING INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA, ITEM 17 IS POSTPONED UNTIL AUGUST 21ST, 2025 TO ALLOW CITY STAFF TIME TO EVALUATE COMMENTS PROVIDED BY 
          [18. Discuss and consider action on Meet and Confer Agreement by and between City of Leander and Leander Law Enforcement Association for a term of three (3) years effective October 1, 2025.]
THE PRIVATE SECTOR. ITEM 18 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON MEET AND CONFER AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF LEANDER AND LEANDER LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION FOR A TERM OF THREE YEARS, EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST, 2025. CITY MANAGER. PARDON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THIS PROPOSED AGREEMENT AGAIN. AS REFERENCED, IT IT IS A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT THAT WE NEGOTIATED THROUGH. I THINK THE REPORT SAID SIX. BUT I THINK WE ACTUALLY HAD A SEVENTH MEETING THAT WE HAD ADDED. THEY WERE VERY PRODUCTIVE. MY THANKS GOES OUT TO OFFICER CARLOS GONZALES, BRIAN JOHNS AND DAVID WILSON FOR NEGOTIATING AND BEING PART OF THE TEAM THAT WORKED WITH US TO GET TO THIS POINT. SO WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A SOLID AGREEMENT THAT WILL CARRY US FORWARD, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE RESPECTING THE NEEDS OF THE DEPARTMENT, AND WE'RE CREATING A COMPETITIVE AND ATTRACTIVE WORK ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR OFFICERS FOR TODAY AND ON INTO THE FUTURE. SO WITH THAT, WE'D RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLAN AND TURN IT OVER TO THE ASSOCIATION. IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU. WELCOME AGAIN. CARLOS GONZALEZ, ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT. DAVID WILSON VICE PRESIDENT, ON BEHALF OF OURSELVES, OUR MEMBERSHIP. AND THAT'S HERE AND PRESENT OUT WORKING THE STREETS AND WATCHING FROM HOME. WANT TO THANK CURRENT AND FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR GETTING US TO THIS POINT. THIS HAS BEEN THREE YEARS IN THE MAKING. I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT ALONG THE WAY, AND TELLING US TO STICK TO IT, THAT OUR NEW CITY MANAGER WAS GOING TO BE AMAZING TO WORK WITH. AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE PLEASURE AND ENJOY WORKING WITH CITY MANAGER PARTON. OBVIOUSLY HR DIRECTOR KRISTY DAVIS AWESOME. AND WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT CHIEF MITTON SUPPORT. HE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, GOT OUR BACKS SINCE DAY ONE. AND WE'RE KIND OF THE TALK OF THE TOWN NOW. WE ALREADY HAVE OTHER DEPARTMENTS HITTING US UP, ASKING WHAT WE DID TO SECURE SUCH A FABULOUS DEAL. I TOLD HIM IT STARTS OFF WITH HAVING A FANTASTIC CITY MANAGER THAT LISTENS TO YOUR CONCERN, AND A COUNCIL THAT BACKS YOU. SO ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT AND WE'RE ABSOLUTELY THRILLED TO GET THE BALL ROLLING. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE. YEAH. COME OVER TO THE MIC. MAKE IT ALL OFFICIAL. ALL RIGHT. NO, KIND OF JUST ECHO THE SAME THING WITH LESS WORDS. PROBABLY. BUT THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR SUPPORTING US. IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD TO GET HERE. WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU GUYS. APPRECIATE THE CITY'S TEAM. WORKING WITH THEM WAS AMAZING. IT WAS GREAT TALKING AND FIGURING EVERYTHING OUT. SO ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR TEAM REPRESENTATIVES THAT HELPED GUIDE US. WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THIS DONE AS QUICK. WE'D PROBABLY STILL BE HAVING MEETINGS. SO. DAVID KOLLWITZ WAS DEFINITELY OUR RIGHT HERE. HE WAS OUR OUR LEADER IN HELPING US GET EVERYTHING ORGANIZED. SO AGAIN, JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND IT FEELS GREAT TO FINALLY, FINALLY BE STANDING HERE. THANK YOU AGAIN. AND THE BIGGEST THANK YOU THAT I ALMOST FORGOT. AND I'M GLAD I DIDN'T. I WANTED TO THANK DORA FOR GETTING THIS THROUGH. SHE KEPT EVERYBODY ON TASK AND PUSHING FORWARD AHEAD. SO SHE'S AN ABSOLUTE ROCK STAR. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DID. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND FOR GOING THROUGH ALL THIS. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH TO OUR CITY TEAM. I THINK I SPEAK FOR ALL OF US THAT HAVE BEEN UP HERE THE LAST FEW YEARS. THIS THIS WAS IMPORTANT. THIS WAS BIG. AND WE'RE JUST THRILLED AT HOW THIS HAS TURNED OUT. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I DO WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. BUT I ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY A LITTLE BIT. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. I THINK WE APPROVED THE PROCESS ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, SO IT TOOK A WHILE. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? WE GOT HERE AGAIN, IT ALWAYS STARTS WITH LEADERSHIP. SO AS YOU MENTIONED, WE DID KNOCK IT OUT OF THE PARK WHEN WE HIRED CITY MANAGER BARTON. AND I LOVE SEEING ALL THE GUYS HERE BECAUSE I WENT AND TALKED TO EVERYONE AND SHOOK THEIR HAND AND THEY'RE ALL SO HAPPY. SO IT'S JUST A GOOD NIGHT FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND FOR OUR CITY, AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP EVERYONE EMPLOYED, FILL ALL THE POSITIONS, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A SAFE CITY. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE. THIS IS FOR YOU. WE DO HAVE YOUR BACK. AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. AND IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS GUYS. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. ITEM 19 RECEIVE PRESENTATION REGARDING A PROPOSED AFFORDABLE 
          [19. Receive presentation regarding a proposed affordable housing single-family development associated with the Preserve at Mason Creek Site Development; more particularly described as 7.675 acres ± in size out of Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R655944; and generally located south of Horseshoe Drive, approximately 480 feet west of S. West Drive, Leander, Williamson County, Texas and possible action to direct staff regarding next steps.]
HOUSING. SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE PRESERVE AT MASON CREEK. SITE DEVELOPMENT MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AS 7.675 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE OUT OF WILLIAMSON 
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CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT, PARCEL R655944 AND GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF HORSESHOE DRIVE, APPROXIMATELY 480FT WEST OF SOUTHWEST DRIVE. LEANDER, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS. AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO DIRECT STAFF REGARDING NEXT STEPS. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICE. 
          GRIFFIN. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. SO BRIAN WITH CASCADE HOMES IS HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU GUYS. YES. THANK YOU. AND THAT KIND OF FOCUSES. SO CIRCLE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. COOL. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY. VERY EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEAL AT PRESERVE AT MASON CREEK DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE HERE IN LEANDER. SO REALLY QUICKLY, THIS IS CASCADE HOMES. WE ARE THE DEVELOPER OF THE PROJECT. WE ALSO SERVE AS THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE HOMES. OUR FOCUS IS DEVELOPING HIGH QUALITY HOMES THROUGHOUT CENTRAL TEXAS. WE ALSO HAVE EXPERIENCE OPERATING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AS WELL AS OTHER COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE ASSETS AS WELL. SO OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT EVERYONE IS KEENLY AWARE OF NATIONALLY AS WELL AS HERE LOCALLY. WE DID INCLUDE A COUPLE QUOTES ABOUT THE AFFORDABILITY CRISIS THAT WE'RE ALL DEALING WITH. WE HAVE A QUOTE FROM THE MAYOR HERE AS WELL, JUST HIGHLIGHTING HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE NEEDS IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE LIKE THIS SLIDE ON DEMOGRAPHICS BECAUSE LEANDER IS SUCH A VIBRANT PLACE WITH, YOU KNOW, A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF FAMILIES HERE LOCALLY. SO 91% OF PEOPLE HERE LIVE IN FAMILIES, WHICH IS 13 PERCENTAGE POINTS HIGHER THAN THE AUSTIN MSA. AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE A SMALLER PERCENTAGE OF HOUSEHOLDS EARNING EITHER 60 OR 80% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME, AND THAT 60 TO 80% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME IS WHAT WE QUALIFY AS. WORKFORCE. 
          THE WORKFORCE AND THUS WORKFORCE HOUSING. AND SO THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SOME POSITIVE REASONS FOR THAT. BUT THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME AFFORDABILITY ISSUES THAT ARE HINDERING THOSE PEOPLE FROM BEING ABLE TO FIND HOMES AND BUILD LIVES IN LEANDER. I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THE STUFF ON HERE. I THINK WE ALL SORT OF KNOW THIS IN OUR GUT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME QUALITIES TO LIVING IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THE SPACE, THE PRIVACY, THE ABILITY TO BE A PART OF A COMMUNITY, THE OUTDOOR SPACE FOR CHILDREN. IT IS OFTEN A GOAL FOR MANY PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON DELIVERING HERE. THIS DATA, YOU KNOW, I THINK IS INTERESTING. WE FOCUSED ON THE LAST HALF OF 2024, THE AVERAGE SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN THE MARKET. THE BIG BUBBLE ON THE TOP LEFT, WAS SOLD FOR $592,000. 
          IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME FOR SOMEONE EARNING 80% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME AND YOU WERE TO APPLY, YOU KNOW TODAY'S MORTGAGE RATES AND SAY, LOOK, THEY CAN ONLY SPEND UP TO 30% OF THEIR INCOME ON A MORTGAGE. THEY COULD AFFORD APPROXIMATELY A $325,000 HOUSE. 
          AND FOR SOMEONE EARNING 60% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME, THAT WOULD DROP TO $250,000. WHEN YOU GO TO THE ORANGE BUBBLES BELOW THAT 697 HOMES SOLD IN THE SECOND HALF OF LAST YEAR, 30 OF THOSE SOLD FOR $325,000 OR LESS, AND NONE FOR $250,000 OR LESS. SO IF YOU ARE A PERSON IN THAT WORKFORCE BAND THAT WANTS TO BUY A HOME IN LEANDER, IT IS VERY, VERY TOUGH TO IMPOSSIBLE IF YOU'RE AT THE LOWER END OF THAT. SO THEN RENTAL, THAT'S WHERE MANY PEOPLE GO. MOST OF THE HOMES IN LEANDER ARE OWNED BY, YOU KNOW, A VARIETY OF INVESTORS THAT MAY OWN 1 OR 2 HOMES. 
          PEOPLE THAT MOVE OUT DECIDE TO RENT THEIR HOME OUT. 665 HOMES WERE RENTED IN THE SECOND HALF OF LAST YEAR. THE AVERAGE RENT THAT WE HAVE FOR SOMEONE MAKING 60% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME IN OUR IN OUR PROJECT, WHICH WILL GO THROUGH MORE IN MORE DETAIL, IS $1,950. ONLY 16% OF THOSE 665 HOMES RENTED FOR THAT. AND ONCE AGAIN, AS A REMINDER, 25% OF HOUSEHOLDS IN LEANDER EARN 60% OF AMI OR MORE. SO NOT ENOUGH HOMES TO MEET EVEN THAT 25% LEVEL. THE AGE OF THOSE HOMES IS OLDER. AND THEN THAT THAT NUMBER ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT THE ZERO. THERE ARE NO INCOME RESTRICTED SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL COMMUNITIES IN LEANDER. AND SO WE ARE DESIRING TO BE THE FIRST ONE TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OR HANDFUL OF AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS THAT ARE INCOME RESTRICTED IN THE AREA. 13 WITHIN A TEN, A 1010 MILE RADIUS OF THE CITY OF LEANDER, CITY OF LEANDER. ABOUT HALF OF THOSE HAVE THREE AND FOUR BEDROOM UNITS THAT COULD 
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ACCOMMODATE A LARGER FAMILY. MOST OF THOSE UNITS ARE ARE APARTMENTS ARE A LITTLE BIT OLDER ON THE OLDER SIDE, AND NONE OF THEM HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AS WE DISCUSSED. SO HARD TO BUY A HOME, CHALLENGING TO RENT A HOME IF YOU'RE IN THAT WORKFORCE. BAND APARTMENTS, THERE ARE SOME AFFORDABLE APARTMENT OPTIONS, BUT THEY ARE LIMITED AT THE LARGER FOR THE LARGER FLOOR PLANS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPING OUR PROJECT CAN ADDRESS THAT ISSUE, YOU KNOW, JUST REALLY QUICKLY ON LOCATION. OUR PROJECT IS LOCATED VERY CLOSE TO WHERE WE SIT RIGHT NOW, RIGHT OFF OF HORSESHOE DRIVE. YOU CAN SEE IT HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS PICTURE. 
          YOU'RE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE TO LEANDER MIDDLE SCHOOL, CHRISTINE CAMACHO ELEMENTARY. 
          YOU COULD PROBABLY WALK HERE. YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF AMENITIES AND BUSINESSES AROUND HERE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO THRIVE AND BUILD A LIFE AND BE CLOSE TO WORK, AND THEN IMMEDIATELY AROUND US, THERE'S ABOUT 32 TO 3 ACRE LOTS THAT WERE DEVELOPED IN SORT OF THE 1970S. THAT AREA ON HORSESHOE DRIVE AND LYON ROAD DRIVE IS BEING REDEVELOPED. THERE'S A NUMBER OF TOWNHOMES BEING BUILT. OUR PROJECT WILL BE THE NICEST IN TERMS OF QUALITY AND THE ONLY ONE THAT'S SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS NICE BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY IS TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST OF US ARE ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES. SOME OF THE QUALITIES OF THE PROJECT IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AS I SAID, WE'VE GOT REALLY LARGE FLOOR PLANS 1500 TO 2100FT■!S, HIGH QUALITY FINISHES, AND I DID LIST OUT A LOT OF THE SPECIFIC AMENITIES AND QUALITIES OF THEM, BECAUSE I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHEN WE ORIGINALLY ACQUIRED THIS SITE IN 2022, OUR INTENTION WAS TO BUILD THIS ENTIRELY AS MARKET RATE AND MARKET CONDITIONS HAVE CAUSED US TO PIVOT. BUT WE ARE STILL DELIVERING A MARKET RATE PROJECT THAT IS OF EXTREMELY HIGH QUALITY. SO UNLIKE MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA, WE HAVE AN 85% MASONRY STANDARD. SO WE WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF BRICK, STONE, STUCCO ON EACH OF THE BUILDINGS. WE HAVE EIGHT DISTINCT ELEVATIONS. SO NOT JUST DIFFERENT PAINT COLORS, BUT DIFFERENT MIXES OF THOSE STUCCO ELEMENTS OR THOSE MASONRY ELEMENTS, DIFFERENT ARTICULATIONS ON THE BUILDINGS. 
          WE WILL HAVE QUARTZ COUNTERTOPS, BIG KITCHENS WITH 72 INCH ISLANDS, AND ALL OF THEM WE HAVE REALLY NICE CABINETRY, ALL WITH SOFT, CLOSE CABINETRY, WHICH IS A REALLY NICE FEATURE. STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCES, REFRIGERATORS WITH ICE CREAM MAKER, ICE CREAM. THAT WOULD BE REALLY COOL. ICE MAKERS UNDERMOUNT SINKS, TILE BACKSPLASHES. MY BUSINESS PARTNER IS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE SMART TECHNOLOGY PACKAGE, SO EVERYONE WILL HAVE A DOORBELL CAMERA, SMART THERMOSTAT, SMART LOCKS. I COULD GO ON FOR A WHILE. WE HAVE A LOT OF BIG TREES IN THERE. THE MASONRY FENCE OUT IN FRONT WITH A 25 FOOT WIDE MONUMENT SIGN. SO IT'S A REALLY, REALLY HIGH QUALITY PROJECT. AND THEN THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL, WE'VE GOT WALKABLE SIDEWAYS SIDEWALKS. WE'RE EXCITED TO INSTALL SOME OF THOSE LITTLE FREE LIBRARY BOXES. WE HAVE A POCKET PARK THAT WILL ACTIVATE, AND ALL OF THIS COMES WITH A PACKAGE OF A PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED. IT'S GOING TO BE PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED COMMUNITY, SO YOU'LL HAVE ONSITE MANAGEMENT. IF YOU NEED A MAINTENANCE REQUEST FILLED, YOU FILL IT IN ONLINE. SOMEBODY WITH OUR ON SITE MANAGEMENT TEAM WILL COME ADDRESS IT OR OVERSEE A THIRD PARTY THAT THAT ADDRESSES THE ISSUE. WE ARE GOING TO BE TAKING CARE OF ALL RESIDENTS LANDSCAPING, WATERING, MOWING, THE LAWN, TRIMMING SOUNDS FANTASTIC AND THAT IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO TO ENSURE THAT THE QUALITY OF THE COMMUNITY STAYS PRISTINE. SO NO 1 OR 2 PEOPLE ARE LOWERING THE EXPERIENCE FOR OTHER FOLKS. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY, VERY HIGH QUALITY COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO DELIVER. AND SO JUST SORT OF SUMMARIZING ALL THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABILITY. IT'S VERY HARD FOR THESE FAMILIES TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE. WE THINK THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO PROVIDE THAT FOR WORKFORCE. THE WORKFORCE IN LEANDER, AT LEAST 32 OF THOSE FAMILIES THAT NEED TO FIND A HOME. AND THEN THE STRUCTURE THAT ALLOWS US TO DELIVER THAT. SO WE HAVE NEGOTIATED A ARRANGEMENT WITH THE TRAVIS COUNTY FACILITIES CORPORATION. IT IS A DEAL CALLED A PFC DEAL. IT'S GOVERNED BY TEXAS CODE 303. THIS WAS RECENTLY REVAMPED IN 2023. THIS IS ONE OF THE PREFERRED METHODS OF OUR TEXAS LEGISLATURE TO ADDRESSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO IT'S NOT A NICHE PROCESS. IT'S BEEN WELL VETTED AND SUPPORTED BY OUR BY OUR STATE GOVERNMENT. WE WILL BE RESERVING 20% OF THE UNITS FOR FAMILIES, MAKING 60% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME OR LESS, AND 30% OF THE UNITS FOR THOSE FAMILIES MAKING 80% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME OR LESS. THE REMAINING 50% ARE FOR MARKET RATE RENTERS. AND WE DO THINK THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME POSITIVE, POSITIVE BENEFITS TO HAVING, YOU KNOW, A MIXED INCOME 
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COMMUNITY IN EXCHANGE FOR DOING THAT FOR A PERIOD OF 60 YEARS, WE'LL ENTER INTO A GROUND LEASE WITH THE TRAVIS COUNTY FACILITIES CORPORATION, WHICH ALLOWS US TO AVOID PAYING PROPERTY TAXES AND TO FACILITATE THIS TRANSACTION, WE OBVIOUSLY NEED THE COOPERATION OF THE CITY OF LEANDER. AND SO AFTER TEN YEARS, WE WOULD BE PAYING THE EQUIVALENT OF FULL PROPERTY TAXES TO THE CITY OF LEANDER. SO FROM THE CITY OF LANDERS PERSPECTIVE, IT'S JUST A TAX ABATEMENT FOR A TEN YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. I WON'T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THIS. WE WERE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS HAPPEN, AND WE THINK IT'S A GREAT THING FOR THESE DEPARTMENTS. THEY HAVE AN AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT THAT IS SOMEWHAT SIMILAR. IT'S NOT A PFC STRUCTURE, BUT THAT WAS AN ARRANGEMENT AGREED TO WITH THE CITY OF LEANDER IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR. AS I SAID, WE THINK IT'S AWESOME. THERE ARE SOME QUALITIES HERE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE THINK HELP SORT OF MAKE OUR PROJECT SHINE. WE'RE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THAT IS AN APARTMENT COMMUNITY. WE DO HAVE THIS 60% OF AMI COMPONENT, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT. I'M GOING TO SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME ON THAT ON THE NEXT PAGE, BUT ALLOWS US TO GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO AFFORDABILITY. WE STILL HAVE THE SAME RENT LIMIT OF 30% OF INCOME BECAUSE WE ARE GOVERNED BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE. WE HAVE THIS VERY RIGOROUS EVALUATION PROCESS WHERE THEY HAD TO HIRE A THIRD PARTY TO LOOK AT IT. WE HAVE ANNUAL AUDITS THAT ARE LOOKED AT BY A STATE ORGANIZATION OR A STATE ORGANIZATION. WE DO NOT HAVE A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT, WHICH I KNOW WAS A BIG CONSIDERATION THERE, BUT WE'RE ALSO PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED, AND WE DO HAVE FOUR BEDROOM FLOOR PLANS. AND SO THESE ARE THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE RENTS AND THE INCOME REQUIREMENTS. I MENTIONED THE 60% OF AMI LEVEL. AND I JUST DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH SORT OF ON WHAT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. THE LEANDER INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES PUBLISH THEIR COMPENSATION OR SALARY SCHEDULE FOR TEACHERS. 
          AND SO IF YOU'RE A TEACHER WITH ONE, TEN, 20 OR 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, YOU MAKE 75, 65, 75, 65, SORRY, 65, 70, 69 OR $75,000. LET ME SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME, 65, 69 OR $75,000 FOR TEACHERS OF THOSE DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE LEVELS. SO IF YOU WANTED TO RENT A HOME IN THIS, IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THAT WAS YOUR ONLY INCOME, IT WAS A SINGLE PERSON INCOME FAMILY, YOU WOULD NEED TO BE AT THAT 60% OF AMI LIMIT OR LESS TO REALLY BE ABLE TO IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          OTHERWISE, YOU WOULD BE COMPETING WITH PEOPLE AT THAT 80% OF AMI LIMIT. SO IT ALLOWS US TO GO DEEPER, BE ABLE TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR TEACHERS. THERE'S A SIMILAR PAYMENT STRUCTURE FOR LEANDER ISD, WHICH IS NOT OBVIOUSLY THE POLICE OFFICERS, THAT THAT SALARY SCHEDULE IS $75,000. AT THE MIDPOINT, A POLICE SERGEANT IS $94,000 AT THE MIDPOINT. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT 60% OF AMI LEVEL ALLOWS US TO PULL A LITTLE BIT DEEPER AND PULL IN MORE WORKFORCE. BUT THERE'S THE MATH. IT'S BASED ON BEDROOM COUNT, INCOME LEVEL, AND RENT CAN IS LIMITED TO 30% OF INCOME. AND THEN THIS IS A CALCULATION DONE BY THE THIRD PARTY HIRED BY TRAVIS COUNTY FACILITIES CORPORATION. YOU WOULD BE ABATING OUR TAXES BY $922,000. 
          WE WOULD BE PROVIDING RENT SAVINGS FOR THOSE RESIDENTS OF ALMOST $2 MILLION OVER THAT TEN YEAR PERIOD, AND APPROACHING $28 MILLION OVER A 60 YEAR PERIOD. SO YEAH, THAT'S REALLY IT. WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS SOME ADDITIONAL COLOR. WE HAVE FULLY APPROVED OR STAMPED SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANS WITH THE CITY STAFF. WE DO NEED THIS STRUCTURE TO MOVE FORWARD IN. OUR ESTIMATIONS WILL BE SORT OF DOING WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS, SORT OF SITTING ON THE SITE UNLESS WE GET THIS STRUCTURE, BECAUSE WE DO NEED THIS TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED. WE THINK THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO DELIVER HIGH QUALITY HOMES. 32 LOW INCOME FAMILIES WILL BE ABLE TO LIVE HERE. AND WE THINK THAT THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, A PRETTY GOOD COST BENEFIT TRADE OFF FOR THE CITY. SO WITH THAT, DO I STAY HERE FOR QUESTIONS OR. 
          OKAY. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION. I GREW UP AS A KID IN THE 90S DURING THE.COM BOOM IN, IN THE BAY AREA OF CALIFORNIA, AND I SEE SO MANY PARALLELS HERE WITH THAT ERA IN THAT PLACE. AND WHEN ALL OF THE TECH JOBS COME IN, THEY BRING IN A LOT OF EMPLOYEES WITH A LOT OF MONEY, AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE BEGIN TO STRUGGLE, AND WE STILL NEED TO HAVE TEACHERS. WE STILL NEED TO HAVE ROAD CREWS. WE STILL NEED TO HAVE THE VERY BASIC JOBS THAT EVERY PLACE HAS. BUT THE COST OF REAL ESTATE GETS SO HIGH SO QUICKLY. I, I LOVE THESE SORTS OF PROGRAMS AND, AND I'VE KNOWN SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED IN THEM. 
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AND I KNEW A FAMILY BACK IN CALIFORNIA. YOU KNOW, DAD HAD A GREAT JOB. IT ALLOWED PROGRAMS LIKE THIS ALLOWED MOM TO STAY HOME WITH THE KIDS WHILE THEY'RE LITTLE, AND NOT HAVE TO BE A DUAL INCOME HOUSEHOLD. AND SO I THINK THERE'S SO MANY POSITIVES, AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY THOUGHTFULLY DONE. AND BEING IN A HOUSE GIVES SO MUCH DIGNITY TO, YOU KNOW, SO I, I THINK THIS IS GREAT. THANK YOU COUNCIL. THANK YOU MIKE. SO I LIKE THE CONCEPT. I LIKE THE LOCATION WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND EVERYTHING. SO HOW IS THE PRICE. SO YOU HAVE THE PART THAT'S NOT IN ESSENCE KIND OF RENT CONTROL. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE ONE PRICE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER PRICE. AND SO THEY'RE A PERCENTAGE OFF THAT. SO WHEN YOU GET OUT OF THE TEN YEARS WITH THIS, WITH THE 60% AND THE 80%, IS THERE GOING TO BECOME A BIGGER SPREAD ON THOSE THAT THAT ARE IN THE LOWER PART AND THE PART, OR IS IT OR IS IT A ALWAYS A CONSTANT DIFFERENCE IN THE PRICE? WELL, THAT'S A THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET RENT A PROPERTY OR HOMES ARE TIED TO MARKET RENTS. SO WHEREVER MARKET RENTS GO THAT'S WHERE THOSE HOMES RENTS WILL GO. OBVIOUSLY IN LEANDER AND THE SURROUNDING AREA, WE HAVE SEEN HISTORICALLY SOME PRETTY SHOCKING GROWTH IN RENTS. THE RENT, THE INCOME RESTRICTED HOMES, IT'S TIED TO AREA MEDIAN INCOME, WHICH IS PUBLISHED BY THE NATION'S HUD, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, AND IT CAN ONLY BE 30% OF THAT FIGURE. AND SO THE RENT FOR THOSE INCOME RESTRICTED UNITS IS TIED TO WHATEVER AREA MEDIAN INCOME DOES. AND THE RENT FOR THE MARKET RATE UNITS IS TIED TO MARKET RENTS. OUR ASSUMPTIONS IN THAT RENT SAVINGS CHART THAT I SHOWED YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT JUST ASSUMES THAT THEY GROW IN TANDEM AT 3%. SO THE GAP DOES GROW AT 3%, WHICH DOES COMPOUND A LOT OVER TIME. BUT ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THIS IS THAT THOSE THOSE RESIDENTS IN THE IN THE INCOME RESTRICTED HOMES SHOULD BE PROTECTED JUST IN CASE MARKET RENTS RUN WILD LIKE WE HAVE SEEN IN THE AREA. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. AND IT IS A IT IS A 60 YEAR PERIOD, NOT A TEN YEAR PERIOD. IT'S A 60 YEAR PERIOD. I WAS JUST THINKING AFTER THE TAX PART, YOU KNOW, THE TAX ABATEMENT ENDS, THEN YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COSTS. BUT IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE TYING IT TO THE MEDIAN INCOME AND ALL THAT, THAT MAKES IT PRETTY MUCH A CONSTANT, RIGHT? AS YOU KIND OF GO FORWARD AND THEY THEY WILL DIVERGE SOMEWHAT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GO TOO HIGH BECAUSE THEN THE MEDIAN INCOME WOULD GO UP. YEAH. THEY SHOULD TRACK FAIRLY WELL TOGETHER. THEY SHOULD TRACK SOMEWHAT CLOSE. YEAH. SO THE OTHER THING IS SO ON THE, SO, SO ON THE HOUSE ON THE PLACES. SO YOU'RE GOING TO PICK WHAT THEY ALL LOOK LIKE AND EVERYTHING KIND OF SPREAD OUT THE LOOK AND FEEL AND EVERYTHING. AND SO ARE YOU GOING TO SPREAD OUT WHERE THE PEOPLE WOULD BE THERE IN THE 60 TO 80 AND THE MARKET PRICE ONES. SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THEM ALL LIKE A LITTLE SECTION OVER WHERE THE 60S. DEFINITELY NOT. AND WE ACTUALLY WE, WE ARE BUILDING ALL 64 HOMES THE EXACT SAME, WHICH ALLOWS US TO BE AGNOSTIC AS TO WHO WE RENT IT TO, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT THING. SO YEAH, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY, ANY, ANY ANYTHING WEIRD. IT'S THERE'S DEFINITELY POSITIVES TO SPREADING EVERYBODY OUT. AND WILL YOU GUYS BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE OUTDOOR MAINTENANCE ON THE PROPERTIES AND EVERYTHING? 100%. YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S TRULY A MAINTENANCE FREE LIFESTYLE. I MEAN, YOU GOTTA YOU GOTTA SWEEP AND VACUUM AND STUFF. BUT BUT IN TERMS OF THE YARD WORK AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF, I WISH I HAD THIS ARRANGEMENT AT HOME. I'M SURE MANY OF YOU DO AS WELL. IT'S TRULY MAINTENANCE FREE IN TERMS OF THE QUALIFICATION FOR THE RENTERS LIKE YOU MENTIONED, LIKE THE BASE LEVEL INCOME AND THEN THE ARMY, OF COURSE. SO WHEN A PERSON FIRST APPLIES TO LIVE IN ONE OF YOUR UNITS, LET'S SAY THEY'RE LIKE $68,000. SO DO YOU TAKE THAT INCOME VERIFICATION. THAT GOES FOR LIKE THE LENGTH OF A YEAR OR TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? IF THE PERSON WERE TO GET LIKE A SUBSTANTIAL PAY BUMP AND THEIR SALARY GOES FROM 68,000, MAYBE $110,000, THERE IS THERE IS A GRACE PERIOD. I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS, BUT THERE IS A PERIOD AT WHICH YOU CAN STAY IN THE HOME. BUT IT'S I THINK IT'S LIKE TWO YEARS. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT EXTREMELY LONG. I MEAN, THAT'D BE A GREAT THING FOR THE INDIVIDUAL TO HAVE THEIR INCOME JUMP AND, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO EXPLORE OTHER OPTIONS. IT'S ANOTHER BENEFIT FOR US REALLY QUICKLY ON ON BUILDING ALL THE HOMES THE EXACT SAME, BECAUSE IF SOMEONE DOES HAVE THEIR THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE AND IS NOW A CANDIDATE FOR THE MARKET RATE UNITS AND THEY'VE RUN OUT OF THAT GRACE PERIOD, WE CAN JUST CONVERT THEM TO A MARKET RATE LEASE AND THEY GET TO STAY IN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A GREAT THING. GREAT. AND THEN THESE THESE LIKE BASE VALUES LIKE LET'S SAY THE 68,000, IS IT TIED TO INFLATION. SO OR LIKE JUST MARKET CONDITIONS. LIKE WHAT DOES THAT DOES IT GO UP TO LIKE 71,000. YEAH IT'S TIED TO AREA MEDIAN INCOME. SO THE LIMIT IT JUST IT'S EVERY YEAR IT'S PUBLISHED IT'S RANGED FROM TWO TO 4 OR 5 
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6% OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. IT'S PUBLISHED. IT'S PUBLISHED EVERY ONCE A YEAR. ONCE A YEAR. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH. NO PROBLEM. YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU FOR. IT'S A VERY THOUGHTFUL PRESENTATION, BUT YOU MENTIONED THE OTHER PROPERTY THAT WE APPROVED. AND THAT WAS ONE OF MY CONCERNS WHEN WE TALKED TO THEM, THAT MAYBE IT DIDN'T GO FAR ENOUGH WITH THE 60% AND 80%, AND THE FACT THAT Y'ALL WOULD BE ABLE TO DO 60% JUST DEFINITELY OPENS IT UP TO MORE PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE. AND I WORKED AT A TAX CREDIT PROPERTY MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. AND SO HAVING ALL THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS, PEOPLE THAT ARE MARKET RATE, PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT 60% BUCKET AND 80% BUCKET DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN HOW THE PROPERTY FEELS AND TO ME, HOW IT AGES. SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING THAT Y'ALL ARE OFFERING. SO THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? I DO HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION. I JUST IT'S REALLY SO THAT I UNDERSTAND THIS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE THERE'S A BUILT IN 3% INCREASE IN THE RENTAL COST YEAR OVER YEAR. AND I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND, WAS THAT SPECIFICALLY TIED TO THE INCOME PIECE OR IS THAT BUILT INTO THE TO THE CONTRACTS THEMSELVES, THE RENTAL CONTRACTS? YEAH. THERE'S NO AND I SHOULD CLARIFY I MISSPOKE THERE. THERE'S NO BUILT IN 3% INCREASE FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS CALCULATION. WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT RENT SAVINGS, WE ASSUME THAT BOTH MARKET RENTS GROW AT 3% EACH YEAR. SO IF YOU'RE UP FOR RENEWAL, WE ASK YOU TO PAY 3% MORE. AND WE ASSUME THAT AREA MEDIAN INCOME AS PUBLISHED BY HUD GROWS BY 3%. 
          OKAY. AND THAT'S THE RENT THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO ASK OF FROM MAXIMUM RENT WE'RE ALLOWED TO ASK OF FROM THE RENT. RESTRICTED INCOME RESTRICTED RESIDENTS GROWS AT 3% OKAY. IF IT'S FLAT, IF HUD SAYS IT'S FLAT OR IT GOES DOWN IN RECESSION OR WHATEVER, THEN IT IS WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? SO THE MARKET IS DICTATING THE RENTAL FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. THE MARKET IS DICTATING THE MARKET RENTS AND THEN AREA MEDIAN INCOME, WHICH I ASSUME COMES FROM A MIX OF CENSUS AND OTHER DATA. THE GOVERNMENT ESTABLISHES WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE, AND THEY JUST REPORT IT TO US, AND IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY SAY ON THAT. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE COUNCIL OKAY. SO I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO COME BACK. OR DO WE JUST TALK ABOUT STAFF COMING BACK. WE POST IT HERE. OR DO YOU PREFER THEM TO MAKE A MOTION ROBIN OR TO. OR PROVIDE DIRECTION. SO IF YOU'RE SUPPORTIVE OF US MOVING FORWARD WE NEED ACTION ON STAFF MOVING FORWARD WITH A RESOLUTION COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT AND A PILOT. OKAY. THAT WAS ABOUT WHAT I WAS THINKING. SO YOU WANT A MOTION IN A VOTE FOR THAT? OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK THE RESOLUTION COOPERATION AGREEMENT AND PILOT AGREEMENT TO COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE. I'LL SECOND MOTION AND SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 20, RECEIVE A STATUS REPORT FROM 
          [20. Receive a status report from City staff on the status and implementation of the sign ordinance and to receive direction from City Council.]
CITY STAFF ON THE STATUS AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SIGN ORDINANCE AND TO RECEIVE DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. GRIFFIN, WELCOME BACK. ACTUALLY, REALLY QUICK, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WHY DON'T WE GO WITH THEM FIRST? THAT WAY YOU CAN ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT COMES UP. SOUNDS GOOD. ALL RIGHT, DINO VALERA. GOOD EVENING. PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. OH, ANGELINA VALERA, 2011 WOODWAY DRIVE, LEANDER, TEXAS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. THANK YOU. MAYOR. 
          GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I OWN SHARKS BURGERS. WE HAVE TWO LOCATIONS. WE STARTED IN 2017. I'D LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST TO THE COUNCIL, CONSIDER THE CITY SIGN ORDINANCE, SPECIFICALLY THE REGULATIONS AROUND PERMANENT AND TEMPORARY SIGNS. AS IT STANDS, THE SIGNAGE IS SIMPLY TOO SMALL TO BE EFFECTIVE. FOR EXAMPLE, ALONG RONALD REAGAN BOULEVARD, WHERE THE SPEED LIMIT IS 60 MILES AN HOUR, A LITTLE SIX BY SIX SIGN IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO READ FROM THE ROAD AT THAT SPEED THAT DRIVERS CAN'T SAFELY AND REASONABLY ABSORB THE INFORMATION ON A SMALL SIGN. 
          THIS MATTERS BECAUSE SIGNAGE IS ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAYS SMALL BUSINESS CAN REACH POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS. WHEN SIGNS CAN'T BE SEEN, WE'RE MISSING OUT ON THOUSANDS OF IMPRESSIONS EVERY DAY THAT THOUSANDS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO REACH PEOPLE THAT DRIVE TRAFFIC AND GENERATE SALES. SMALL BUSINESS, I BELIEVE, IS A LIFEBLOOD OF THE CITY WE EMPLOY LOCAL RESIDENTS, 
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CONTRIBUTE TO THE TAX BASE AND HELP OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY GROW. BUT WE CAN'T SUCCEED IF WE CAN'T BE SEEN. ALL I'M ASKING IS FOR THE ORDINANCE TO BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THE REALITY OF HOW PEOPLE MOVE THROUGH OUR CITY AND GIVE US A FAIR CHANCE TO GROW ALONGSIDE WITH IT. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME, AND I HOPE YOU CONSIDER SUPPORTING THE NECESSARY CHANGE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, BRANDON BLEVINS. GOOD EVENING. WHAT'S UP? I HAD SOME PICTURES I BROUGHT WAS GOING TO HELP ME, I DON'T THINK. HOW DO I ADVANCE THE PICTURES ON THE HE PUT IT ON. OH. I'M SORRY. SURE. YEAH. IF IT'S LOADED UP. HOW DID HOW DID I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN. I'M SORRY. MY LACK OF TECHNOLOGY IS SHOWING HERE. IT'S THE GENETICS. DON'T, DON'T. 
          OKAY. YOU'RE FINE. JUST CLICK ON THOSE. SO THAT'LL CLICK UP THERE. OH, GREAT. TECHNOLOGY HERE. PERFECT. THAT'S IT. YEAH. WE'LL CLICK FOR THE REST HERE IN JUST A SECOND. REMEMBER TO GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. ALL RIGHT BRANDON BLEVINS OUR BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 1101 SOUTH US HIGHWAY 183. I ALSO HAVE A PERSONAL ADDRESS TO. I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO THANK ROBIN FOR STILL TAKING MY EMAILS EVERY TIME I EMAIL HER. ANYWAY, SHE'S VERY SWEET. SO YEAH, I ECHO WHAT DINO SAID. I MEAN, I TO OWN A SMALL BUSINESS WITHIN THE CITY. WE HAVE WALKS UP TO YOU. WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING IN THE CITY OF LEANDER SINCE APRIL OF 17. THE LOCATION WE'RE AT NOW, WE DIDN'T OPEN UNTIL 21, AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE DID HAVE TO SHUT DOWN OUR FIRST LOCATION JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO CLOSE TO EACH OTHER. SO WE SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE FIRST TIME. BUT WE DID NOT. SO ANYWAY, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE DID BRING SOME PICTURES OF THE POLICE OFFICERS. PLEASE CLOSE YOUR EYES BECAUSE I WAS TAKING THIS WHILE I WAS DRIVING. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS ACTUALLY HEADED TOWARDS OUR SPACE ON 183. WE'RE. I'M ACTUALLY AT ABOUT THE BREAK CHECK LOCATION. IF YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA AND YOU CAN SEE YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE MY SIGN. OUR SIGN IS ACTUALLY JUST BEHIND THAT SET OF TREES UP AHEAD THERE, THE TWO TREES. SO IT BECOMES ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYBODY TO SEE US COMING THIS WAY. I DID HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO TALK WITH CHRISTINE EARLIER, AND I EXPLAINED TO HER THAT WHERE WE'RE AT, WE'RE JUST KIND OF PUSHED BACK A LITTLE BIT. AND SO SINCE WE CAN'T GO UP WITH THE SIGNAGE, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE US. THAT'S. 
          THIS IS ACTUALLY I'M SORRY, THIS IS ACTUALLY COMING FROM THE DISCOUNT TIRE SIDE. KIND OF THE SAME THING HERE. OUR SIGN IS KIND OF HIDDEN BEHIND THE DISCOUNT TIRE SIDE. THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST ME TAKING A PICTURE WITHOUT BEING MY VEHICLE AT THE TIME. SO WE ARE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, OF COURSE, TO THAT SIDE OF THE STREET. IF WE'RE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET, YOU ALMOST CAN'T SEE US UNTIL YOU GET PAST DISCOUNT TIRE. ALMOST GETTING READY TO PASS DISCOUNT TIRE BECAUSE THEIR SIGN DOES BLOCK OUR SIGN. SO THAT'S PART OF IT THERE. SAME SAME THING COMING FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION THERE. I'M NOT SURE WHY I TOOK THAT PICTURE THERE, BUT ANYWAY, IN GENERAL, IT DOES MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO BE SEEN AS A WHOLE. WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE SOME HELP FROM OUR REPAIR PLACES NEXT TO US, RIGHT? THAT DO HELP US BRING IN SOME TRAFFIC, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE WE'RE IN A REPAIR ROW, WE'RE REALLY NOT SEEING LIKE IN THE FOOD ROW, LIKE WE WERE AT CHICK FIL A OR MCDONALD'S AND STUFF, BECAUSE THERE'S MORE EATERIES DOWN THE WAY. SO WE'RE KIND OF HIDDEN A LITTLE BIT. SO, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF BETTER EXPOSURE WOULD HELP. MOST CERTAINLY. THANK YOU. DO YOU MIND GOING BACK TO YOUR FIRST OR MAYBE YOUR SECOND PHOTO, WHERE WE CAN KIND OF SEE THE SIGN ACTUALLY GO BACK THE OTHER WAY? SORRY, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN YOUR THIRD PHOTO THERE. YEAH. SO AT THAT POINT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TWO TREES THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT ARE RIGHT THERE. WHERE'S YOUR SIGN ON THIS? YEAH. SORRY. IT'S RIGHT. YEAH. IT'S HARD TO SEE. THERE'S A BUTTON THAT LIGHTS IT UP. DO YOU GUYS KNOW? OH. THANK YOU. IT'S BACK THERE. GUYS. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME RIGHT THERE. THERE. YEP. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ROBIN. SO WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO DO DIFFERENTLY. WELL I MEAN IF WE COULD GAIN SOME HEIGHT I MEAN THAT WOULD DEFINITELY I THINK HELP. NOW I KNOW THAT THAT YOU KNOW THERE ARE SOME SOME GOVERNING RULES WITH RESPECT TO LANDSCAPING. AND WE DID NOT PERSONALLY BUILD THIS PLACE. 
          THIS WAS A CHICKEN EXPRESS. YOU GUYS PROBABLY EVERYBODY KNOWS IT BY THE CHICKEN EXPRESS EVEN THOUGH WE'VE BEEN THERE LONGER. BUT ANYWAY, I ACTUALLY FORGOT THAT ANYTHING WAS THERE BEFORE YOU. BUT GO ON. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT I THINK OF YOU WHEN I SAY OLD CHICKEN EXPRESS WAS LIKE, OH, I KNOW WHERE IT'S AT. BUT ANYWAY. AND SO THERE WAS A BUNCH OF TREES AND THINGS THAT WERE PLANTED TO OFFSET SOME OF THE LANDSCAPE THAT HAD BEEN DISTURBED AND TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE. BUT LIKE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE TREES AT THIS POINT HAVE REACHED A GROWTH RATE OR GROWTH HEIGHT THAT THAT WE COULD TRIM THEM BACK, BUT WE CAN ONLY TRIM SO MUCH. IT'S EITHER TAKE THEM OUT OR TRIM THEM BACK, AND EVEN THEN THE VISIBILITY IS GOING TO BE KIND OF SHODDY. AND 
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I WAS EXPLAINING TO CHRISTINE EARLIER LIKE BREAK CHECK HASH TREES, WHICH IS FINE, BUT I CAN'T FORCE THEM TO TRIM THEIR TREES. I CAN TRIM MY I JUST CAN'T FORCE THEM TO TRIM THEIRS, YOU KNOW? SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TALLER? A LITTLE BIT TALLER. YEAH. I HAD SOMEWHERE ELSE ON HERE. I HAD SOME OTHER PICTURES WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN THEY DID OUR PYLONS ON ORIGINALLY, THERE'S ACTUALLY A BIG POLE RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF IT. SO I GUESS LIKE CHICKEN EXPRESS THOUGHT, HEY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO A BIG SIGN. AND THEN SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE YOU COULD TELL WHERE IT JUST BEEN CUT OFF, AND THEY BUILT THAT STONE FRAME AROUND IT. SO ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME TALK. ALL RIGHT, MISS GRIFFIN, WE'RE READY FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. I THINK. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. SO I'M JUST GOING TO BRIEFLY GO OVER WHERE WE'VE BEEN. SO IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023, WE DID A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT UPDATE TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE. THAT CHANGE INCLUDED STAFF RESEARCHING OTHER CITIES SUCH AS ROUND ROCK AND CEDAR PARK, EVALUATING ALL THE MASTER SIGN PLANS AND REQUESTS WE RECEIVED. WE ALSO CONSULTED WITH SIGN COMPANIES AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, SO WE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES OVER TIME. WHEN WE GET NEW REQUESTS, WE'LL PRESENT UPDATES TO THE COUNCIL WITH CHANGES. SO OUR FIRST ONE ACTUALLY HAPPENED PRETTY QUICKLY. AFTER THE UPDATE, WE FOUND THAT WE WERE GETTING A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR PREDOMINANTLY WHITE SIGNS. SO WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. WE ADDED WE DIDN'T DO DEVELOPMENT SINGS, WE DID DEVELOPMENT SIGNS, SO WE ADDED THOSE FOR NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL AS UPDATED OUR MASTER SIGN PROVISIONS. IN 2025, WE DID AN UPDATE TO THE PROMOTIONAL SIGN PACKAGE TIME FRAME TO CHANGE FROM FOUR TIMES A YEAR TO EIGHT TIMES A YEAR. AND THEN JUST LAST MONTH, WE ADDED FENCE WRAPS AND MODIFIED THE BUILDING SIGNS REQUIREMENTS. SO I HAVE SOME STATS FOR YOU GUYS OF THE PERCENTAGES ON OUR PERMIT STATUS FOR SIGNS. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND WE'VE GOT OUR TIMES DOWN A LOT FOR SIGNS. SINCE WE MADE THE CHANGES. WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A LOT OF INSTANCES WHERE WE APPROVED THEM ON FIRST REVIEW, SO THAT'S BEEN PRETTY EXCITING FOR STAFF NOT TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH. WE CREATED THE SIGN GUIDE, WHICH I THINK IS HELPING. IT KIND OF TAKES THE COMPLICATED ORDINANCE AND PUTS IT IN SIMPLE TERMS WITH PICTURES. AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN A BENEFICIAL ITEM FOR THE COMMUNITY. OUR MOST POPULAR SIGN TO TALK ABOUT IS THE PROMOTIONAL SIGN PACKAGES. 
          THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU SOME STATISTICS ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THOSE PACKAGES. AND THEN THESE ARE OUR SUCCESSES WE'VE HAD. SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REDUCE IN THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PERMIT REVIEWS. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ISSUE THEM ON FIRST ROUND. WE'VE PROVIDED MORE CLARITY TO THE REGULATIONS AND PRESENTED A SIGN GUIDE THAT'S BEEN HELPFUL. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROCESS. WE ARE MAKING SOME CHANGES TO CREATE SPECIFIC WORK CLASSES IN THE DEVELOPMENT HUB, AND THOSE WILL PROBABLY BE WRAPPED UP IN SEPTEMBER. SO INSTEAD OF JUST A BLANKET SIGN APPLICATION, YOU CAN ACTUALLY BE MORE SPECIFIC AND SAY, I'M DOING A MONUMENT. 
          SO IT'S NOT AS COMPLICATED. THAT GIVES US A CHANCE TO CULL THE REQUIRED SUBMITTAL ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF BROAD RIGHT NOW. SO IF YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO DO MAYBE A BANNER, YOU MIGHT HAVE ELEVATION REQUIREMENTS THAT COME FROM A MONUMENT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT CLEARER FOR THE APPLICANT. THAT'S REALLY THOUGHTFUL I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT. YEAH I THINK IT'S GOING TO HELP STAFF AS WELL BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE THEY'RE FRUSTRATED TO HAVING TO ALWAYS HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT. SO THEY WANT TO MAKE IT SIMPLER FOR THE CUSTOMER. WE ALSO ARE WORKING TOWARDS ADDING SOME GUIDES TO THE WEBSITE THAT SHOULD HELP CUSTOMERS. AND WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL UPDATES AS WE GET INFORMATION FROM CUSTOMERS. THIS IS A NEW SIGN TYPE WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING TO THE COUNCIL. IT'S A DIGITAL KIOSK, SIGNAGE THAT YOU WOULD SEE PROBABLY IN MORE OF A SHOPPING CENTER. WE IMAGINE STUFF LIKE THIS WOULD HAPPEN IN NORTHLINE OR PLACES WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES, BUT IT'S A WAY FOR THEM TO PROVIDE VERY UP TO DATE SIGNAGE THAT CAN BE UPDATED ELECTRONICALLY WITHIN A CENTER. IT'S MEANT FOR PEDESTRIANS, NOT CARS. I THINK THAT'LL BE AN INTERESTING ONE. I DID GET FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS, SO THESE ARE ITEMS THAT I CAN EASILY INCORPORATE INTO THE SIGN ORDINANCE. THE FIRST ONE IS ABOUT PROMOTIONAL SIGN PACKAGES. IT CHANGES THE PERMIT TIME FRAME. SO YOU WOULD GET A PERMIT, AND THE PERMIT TIME WOULD BE FOR TWO YEARS. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESUBMIT THE NEXT YEAR. AND I THINK THE CONCERN WAS EXPRESSED THAT IF YOU SUBMIT IN LIKE SEPTEMBER, YOU MISS OUT ON A CHUNK OF THE YEAR. SO THIS WILL HELP EASE THAT PROCESS AND THEN INCREASING THE FREQUENCY FROM 8 TO 12 TIMES PER YEAR. THE OTHER THING THAT ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BROUGHT UP WAS WHAT SOME OF OUR, OUR AUDIENCE BROUGHT UP AS WELL, IS THE 
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SIGNS. WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS WE HAVE A LOT OF EXISTING SIGNS IN PLACE. SO AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS IS THE ONE ON RONALD REAGAN. THIS SIGN IS TEN FEET TALL AND IT HAS A MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 60 FOR THE SIGN FACE. IN 2023, WE UPDATED IT TO ALLOW A 20 FOOT TALL SIGN WITH 120FT■!S OF SIGN AREA. THE ISSUE IS THE OWNER WOULD HAVE TO GO REBUILD THEIR SIGN TO MAKE IT BIGGER, BUT IT'S AN OPTION, I BELIEVE THE FIRST SUBDIVISION OR I'M SORRY, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE NEW MONUMENTS IS GATEWAY 29. SO THEY'RE COMING IN WITH THEIR SIGN PACKAGE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO START FRESH WITH THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. WHILE WHILE BRANDON WAS TALKING I DID LOOK UP CHICKEN EXPRESS. THEIR SIGN IS TEN FEET TALL. AND SO THAT SIGN COULD BE CHANGED TO BE 20FT TALL. IT'S JUST A COST IN GOING THROUGH TO REBUILD THE SIGN. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CHANGE IS JUST A HARD CHANGE FOR YOU TO SEE RIGHT OFF THE BAT, BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO JUST GO REBUILD THEIR SCIENCE. IN THAT SCENARIO WHERE IT'S ALREADY AN EXISTING PYLON SIGN TO GO TO 20FT, WOULD IT STILL HAVE TO BE A PYLON SIGN, OR COULD HE DO SOMETHING MORE SIMILAR TO LIKE, WHAT DISCOUNT TIRE HAS WHERE IT'S A SIGN UP ON A POLE. SO THE DISCOUNT TIRE IS KIND OF SIMILAR TO A PYLON BECAUSE IT HAS A THICKER BASE. AND THAT WOULD STILL MEET OUR ORDINANCE. SO HE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT JUST CAN'T BE A SKINNY POLE. IT WOULD JUST BE A WIDER BASE. BUT WE WOULDN'T REQUIRE A BUNCH OF MASONRY. KNOW THAT CHANGE IN 2023? YEAH THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED. IT'S JUST HARD TO SEE BECAUSE ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS WERE ALREADY CONSTRUCTED. AND WE DID GO DOWN RONALD REAGAN'S LIKE THE COLD SPRINGS MARKETPLACE. IT'S THE SAME CONDITION THAT'S DONE WITH THE SIGN THAT KIND OF HAS THE TRIANGLE AT THE TOP. IT'S ALSO I THINK IT'S 10.5FT TALL. SOMETHING CHANGED IN OUR ORDINANCE WITH HOW WE MEASURE IT. WE DO IT WITH THE GRADE INSTEAD OF THE ACTUAL BASE, THE SIGN. SO IF YOU BUILD UP ON A BERM THAT COUNTS, THAT'S HOW THEY DID THAT WITH THEIR PEAK, BUT IT'S ANOTHER ONE WHERE IT COULD BE BIGGER IF THEY WANTED TO INSTALL A NEW SIGN. HOW MUCH BIGGER DO YOU THINK WOULD BE ALLOWED THERE? THEY COULD GO UP TO 20FT, SO IT COULD BE DOUBLE WHAT IT IS. YEAH, OKAY. AND I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE A BIG IMPACT. YEAH. IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN INSTANTLY SEE RIGHT WHEN IT DEVELOPS. SO THIS IS KIND OF A COMPARISON TO SHOW THE SIZE CHANGES. SO THE RED IS THE OLD NUMBER AND THE BLUE IS THE CURRENT NUMBER. WHAT WE ALSO DID IS WHEN YOU HAVE A BIGGER CENTER YOU GET A BIGGER SIGN. AND THE OTHER CAVEAT WE HAVE IS ON THE TOLL ROAD. WHEN YOU HAVE ELEVATED LANES, YOU CAN GO UP TO 50FT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT LANE THAT COULD CAUSE A BLOCK ON THE SIGN. OKAY. AND THAT IS IT FOR MY PRESENTATION. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK, I'M GLAD TO LISTEN. SURE. BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE HOW FAR THIS HAS COME FROM WHERE WE WERE IN 2018 AND EVEN 2020. I THINK. I THINK THE BIG CHANGES YOU MADE A FEW YEARS AGO, AND THEN THE WAY THIS HAS EVOLVED IS FANTASTIC, AND I LOVE THAT WE'RE STILL HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS AND REFINING AND GETTING BETTER AND BETTER. BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT. THANK YOU. WE LIKE WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR. WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP EVOLVING. SO PRO TEM I THINK YOU HAD SOME STUFF. NO. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO BUSINESS OWNERS AND GOING OUT TO EVALUATE YOURSELF TO SEE WHAT CHANGES COULD BE BENEFICIAL, THAT THOSE ARE GREAT CHANGES. AND THANK YOU ALSO FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE EIGHT WEEK TO 12 WEEK, BUT ALSO THE PERIOD TIME, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. LIKE, IF YOU FILE FOR YOUR PERMIT IN DECEMBER AND IT ENDS IN THAT CALENDAR YEAR, YOU'RE YOU JUST LOSE THAT PROMOTIONAL TIME. AND SO THOSE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS ARE ON PERMANENT SIGNS. CORRECT. SO ON YOUR TEMPORARY SIGNS, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE. THERE'S I MEAN IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PROMOTIONAL SIGN PACKAGE, THERE'S NOT ONE THAT'S JUST KIND OF A FREE FOR ALL FOR TEMPORARY SIGNS THAT YOU CAN JUST DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. GOTCHA. YEAH. 
          I'M SORRY. THAT'S A 100 FOOT TEMPORARY. I MEAN, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A REALLY EXPENSIVE. IT WOULD BE A GREAT SIGN. SO. BUT YEAH, IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO DO IT. YEAH. BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR CLARIFICATION ON THE, THE TWO YEAR TERM BECAUSE THAT ONE, I JUST DIDN'T GET IT UNTIL YOU GAVE ME. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO EXPLAIN IT BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NOW I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT THE MAYOR AND PRO TEM HAVE SAID. I THINK THIS IS A VERY POSITIVE STEP TOWARDS MAKING OUR CITY MORE COMPETITIVE WHEN IT COMES TO BUSINESS. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK DINO AND BRANDON FOR PROVIDING FEEDBACK. WE NEED TO UTILIZE EVERY TOOL, I THINK, TO HELP OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND OUR BUSINESSES OF ALL SIZES HERE DO WELL IN LEANDER, AND INCREASING VISIBILITY IN ATTRACTING MORE BUSINESSES. DEFINITELY GOING TO HELP. THANK 
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YOU. SO NOT REALLY A QUESTION FOR YOU, ROBIN. I JUST WANT TO ASK BRANDON AND DINO WITH THE IN LIGHT OF THE 20 FOOT HEIGHT AND 120FT■!S OR 120FT, WOULD THAT SUFFICE? WOULD THAT MEET YOUR NEED? BECAUSE I'M NOT AN EXPERT BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. I SORRY, I THINK I MEAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MISS ROBIN, I AM SORRY YOU GOT IT INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. SORRY. THERE WE GO, MISS ROBIN. SO WE'RE AN ARTERIAL ROAD LESS THAN FIVE ACRES. SO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT 12 OR 20 BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY TWO ACRE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW. 
          WELL, ONE ACRE TECHNICALLY THE OTHER ACRE IS NOT BEING DEVELOPED OR HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLARIFICATION. I'M JUST SO I THINK WE LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY BECAUSE THERE'S A BIG COMMERCIAL PIECE OF LAND. SO YOU'VE GOT THE DISCOUNT TIRE AND I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL THE BUSINESSES OVER THERE, BUT IT'S LIKE A COMMERCIAL AREA. SO WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL THEN THAT WOULD ANSWER MY QUESTION. I'M SORRY. 
          AND WHEN I SPOKE EARLIER I DID NOT I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN. ROBIN KNEW. I DON'T KNOW WHY I DIDN'T ASK ROBIN, BUT BUT YES. SO I APPRECIATE IT. AND ACTUALLY, I DO THINK AS A WHOLE, JUST A GENERAL ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. YES, I DO THINK THAT WOULD HELP CONSIDERABLY. CAN WE FINANCIALLY DO IT? WE'LL FIND OUT. BUT, YOU KNOW, MOST CERTAINLY AND I WANT TO DEFINITELY GO ON RECORD AND SAY THAT I DO WHOLEHEARTEDLY APPRECIATE THE TEAM THAT IS BEHIND THE REVIEWS. SOMETIMES IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HURDLE, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. THERE'S SOME RED TAPE AND THINGS NEED TO BE CLEARED AND I GET IT, BUT THEY'RE ALWAYS ON TOP OF IT. THEY'RE ALWAYS REAL RESPONSIVE. 
          LIKE I SAID, MISS ROBIN STILL ACTUALLY TAKES MY EMAILS. SO I'M I'M REALLY NICE. I'M REALLY GLAD THAT SHE DOES. AND SHE ANSWERS THEM AND EVEN CALLS ME FROM TIME TO TIME. SO SHE'S AMAZING. I KNOW SHE IS. SHE'S PRETTY AWESOME. SO AND THE WHOLE REVIEW TEAM I THINK IS ALWAYS BEEN REALLY WELL. SO MOST CERTAINLY I THINK THE DIRECTION IS, IS HEADED IN THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT SPACE. I WOULD THINK SO. OKAY. FOR ME, I CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT OUR SIGN ON RONALD REAGAN BECAUSE WE DON'T OWN IT. AND I DOUBT THE LANDOWNERS ARE GOING TO WANT TO PUT MONEY INTO IT AT THIS POINT. BUT IT'S GOOD STUFF. THAT'S GREAT STUFF. THAT THAT YOU GUYS ARE DEAD IN 20FT IS WAY BETTER THAN TEN FEET. OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN PROBABLY MAKE THE LITTLE SIDES BIGGER TWICE THE SIZE. THE PROVISIONAL SIGNS OR THE TEMPORARY SIGNS. THAT'S A BIG DEAL FOR ME AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE I DID GET A PERMIT AND IT DID EXPIRE BEFORE I COULD USE THE WHOLE THING. SO THE TWO YEAR IS A I THINK THAT'S GREAT. THE BIGGEST ISSUE I HAVE WITH THE SIGN THAT I HAD WAS WHERE I PUT IT ON THE STREET. THEN THE ENFORCEMENT CAME AND MADE ME MOVE IT. AND WHERE ON RONALD REAGAN'S I'M ALWAYS TALKING RONALD REAGAN SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THE CARS ARE COMING BY. THERE'S LOTS OF THEM. AND SO WE PUT FLAGPOLES AND THOSE FLAG SIGNS ARE REALLY EXPENSIVE, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE. WE BOUGHT TWO REALLY FANCY ONES. PUT IT OUT THERE. I DIDN'T PUT IT OUT IN THE STREET. I PUT IT MAYBE ABOVE THE BERM, BUT THEY MADE US PUT IT BACK BY THE MAILBOX. SO ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN BY RONALD REAGAN KNOWS THAT MAILBOXES ARE 40FT OFF THE STREET. SO IT DID US NO GOOD. BASICALLY WASTED OUR MONEY. SO WE DID A BANNER SIGN AND WHERE WE DID IT DURING COVID, WE WERE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING AND WE PUT IT RIGHT IN THE EXACT SAME SPOT IT WAS. AND THEY SAID WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT. SO WE TOOK THAT DOWN. SO A LITTLE FRUSTRATING FOR THE FOR THE TEMPORARY SIGNS. ANYWAYS, AS FAR AS HEREAWAY GOES, WE GOT DENIED A PERMIT SEVEN YEARS AGO. WE NEVER TRIED IT AGAIN. SO ON HEREAWAY. SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SIGN ON THE BUILDING FOR LARKSPUR. WE GOT STICKERS IN THE WINDOW AND NOT GOOD. BUT ANYWAYS, THANKS Y'ALL FOR GREAT UPDATES AND JUST WITH THE CHANGES YOU'VE MADE ARE REALLY GOOD, BUT MAYBE A FEW MORE WE CAN. I MEAN, AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE CAN TALK ABOUT THEM AND MAYBE THROW SOME MORE IDEAS OUT THERE. BUT Y'ALL HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB. THANK YOU ROBIN. THANK YOU. GIVEN THAT THE MONUMENT SIGN IS OUT OF YOUR CONTROL, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO DO OUT THERE? IS IT JUST THE FLAGS OR. WELL YES IT'S A HIGH OBVIOUSLY THAT'S HUGE. BUT THE LITTLE THEY'RE JUST LITTLE PLACARDS IN THERE. THAT'S ALL THEY ARE. 
          THEY'RE JUST YOU JUST THEY'RE JUST WORTHLESS. BASICALLY YOU CAN LEAVE IT BLANK BECAUSE PEOPLE DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD, CAN'T SEE THOSE LITTLE THEY'RE DRIVING, THEY CAN'T SEE US. SO SOMETHING THAT WAS BIGGER, SOMETHING THAT WHEN THEY DRIVE BY THEY CAN SAY, OH, THERE'S SHARKS BURGER. THE TREES ARE HAVE WE GOT BEAUTIFUL SIGN ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. BUT THE TREES ARE OVERGROWN. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. SO THAT SIGN'S LIKE A WASTE ON THE SIDE. THE SAME WITH THE FRONT, THE TREES. SO THERE'S NO SIGNAGE AT ALL. ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE SIGNS ON OUR BUILDING. NONE ARE SEEN FROM ANYWHERE. NOBODY CAN SEE THEM. SO WE'RE REALLY OUT IN THE WILDERNESS OUT THERE, AND PEOPLE THAT KNOW THAT WE'RE THERE COME SEE US. BUT NOBODY ELSE DOES UNTIL WORD OF MOUTH OR HEY, WE JUST HAPPEN TO SEE IT. HOW LONG YOU BEEN HERE? FIVE 
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YEARS. REALLY. I JUST LIVE THE STREET KIND OF THING. IT'S FRUSTRATING. I HAD TO LOOK UP WHERE YOUR MAILBOXES ARE. SO. COUNCIL, IF YOU DON'T KNOW THIS, LIKE ME, IT'S SET BACK CLOSER TO THE SHOPPING CENTER, PAST THEIR SIGN. WELL INTO THE PROPERTY? YES. WHEN YOU'RE COMING UP TOWARDS PALMER, IT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE FIRST DRIVEWAY. THERE'S. THE MAILBOXES ARE RIGHT THERE. I'M GUESSING THERE'S A SIDEWALK RIGHT THERE. AND THEY WANT US UP AT THE SIDEWALK, WHICH I'M GUESSING IT'S A LINE OF SIGHT ISSUE, WHICH IS WAY OUT OF LINE OF SIGHT RIGHT AWAY OR SOMETHING. YEAH. MISS GRIFFIN, DO YOU HAVE THERE'S RULES LIKE TELEPHONE POLES AND RIGHT OF WAYS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT. SO THEY THEY CAN'T PUT THE SIGNAGE IN THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY SO I CAN GO CHECK IN WITH CODE AND KIND OF GET AN UNDERSTANDING WHEN THEY SUBMIT THE SIGN PACKAGE, DO THEY SKETCH OUT ON THE MAP WHERE IT WOULD BE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE THE PLOT PLAN AND SHOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE OKAY? AND IS CODE ENFORCEMENT CHECKING THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO? THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT UPLOADED TO THE PLAN. OKAY, OKAY, I CAN FOLLOW UP. 
          THAT MIGHT BE GOOD AND SEE WHERE THE CONFUSION WAS. AND MAYBE MAYBE THAT'S ANOTHER THING TO ADD TO THE WALK THROUGH. MAKE IT SIMPLER. THANK YOU. YEAH. YOU GOT A VERY GOOD CODE. YES, YES. 
          SHE'S GREAT. SHE'S GOT MY PHONE NUMBER. SHE'S GOING TO SAY SINCE WE, SINCE WE BROUGHT UP THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO FOR, FOR SHE DIDN'T DID WE MAKE A SPECIAL ARRANGEMENT WITH THEM TO LET THEM PUT THEIR SIGN IN THE RIGHT OF WAY? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CRYSTAL FALLS? YEAH, IS AN INTERESTING CASE. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CRYSTAL VILLAGE? YES. SO THEY HAD IT'S A IT'S A LONG STORY, BUT THERE WAS A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IN 2009 BASED ON A LAWSUIT, AND THEY HAD A SIGN EASEMENT. SO THERE'S SOME DOCUMENTATION FOR THAT ONE. BUT SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN USE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY BY PUTTING DIFFERENT SIGNS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THEN MAKING IT THE, THE, I GUESS, THE RESPONSIBILITY, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING NEEDED TO BE DONE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OF THE OWNER OF THE SIGN TO BASICALLY REPAIR IT OR, OR TO DISPOSE OF IT, IT'S NOT A CONCERN ABOUT REPAIRING IT. IT'S A LIABILITY FOR THE CITY WHEN YOU HAVE A PERMANENT STRUCTURE LIKE THAT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT. I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE A LOT OF HERE IS THAT THESE, THESE PROPERTIES ARE SET SO FAR BACK, AND BY THE TIME YOU SEE THEIR SIGN, YOU'RE PAST THEM, YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING IN THERE. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE PROBLEM. AND THEN THE SECOND PART IS, IS WHAT DINA WAS SAYING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WHEN I SEE A SIGN, IT TRIGGERS ME TO BUY SOMETHING. BUT IF I NEVER SEE THEIR SIGN, YOU KNOW, I USED TO ALWAYS DRIVE BY DOMINO'S WHEN I LIVED IN PENNSYLVANIA. AND I WOULD SEE IT IN THE MORNING, AND WHEN I'D COME HOME AT NIGHT, I WOULD BUY A DOMINO'S PIZZA BECAUSE IT GOT IN MY BRAIN AND I HAD TO HAVE A DOMINO'S PIZZA. IT'S THE SAME THING. COULD BE A SHARK. BUT BUT I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, IS THAT WE CAN'T READ THE SIGNS. AND I KEEP THINKING IT'S BECAUSE I'M OLDER AND MAYBE I'M LOOKING AT THE ROAD TOO MUCH OR SOMETHING. BUT WHEN I DRIVE PAST WENDY'S, WHEN I DRIVE PAST THOSE GUYS THERE, THEY HAVE NICE SIGNS THAT YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE NOTHING IN FRONT OF THEIR PLACES. AND I'M NOT SAYING DOWN THE ROAD THEY WON'T HAVE THINGS IN FRONT OF THEM, YOU KNOW, ACROSS FROM CRYSTAL VILLAGE THERE, THERE'S THE WENDY'S AND THE POPEYES, AND YOU CAN SEE THEIR SIGNS BEAUTIFULLY AND EVERYTHING, ANYWHERE YOU SIT AROUND THAT INTERSECTION, YOU CAN SEE IT. BUT A LOT OF THE OTHER SIGNS IN THE CITY, WE JUST CANNOT SEE THEM. AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S JUST THAT THEY HAVE BETTER DESIGNS, THEY HAVE MONEY AND THEY HAVE FRANCHISES THAT COME IN AND STUFF, BUT THEY HAVE A LOT OF LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT THAT HAVE. AND I KNOW IT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PUT UP THEIR SIGNS, BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO DO SOME THINGS BECAUSE I JUST THINK IT IS REALLY HARD TO SEE IT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE WORK WITH THEM AS A COMMUNITY, AS A BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU FOUR GUYS SHOULD HAVE A SIGN UP A LITTLE FURTHER UP WITH A LIST OF WHAT'S UP HERE SO YOU CAN MAKE THE RIGHT TURN TO GET IN THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I JUST I THINK THAT WE, WE CAN DO A LOT MORE WORK ON THIS. THE OTHER THING THAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE THAT THEY WERE BUILT UNDER A DIFFERENT ORDINANCE, AND NOW THEY COULD BE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE. SO IT'S JUST MONEY TO MOVE THE SIGN. AND YEAH, BUT I THINK ALSO IF WE EDUCATE THE BUSINESSES, THEY CAN AGITATE THEIR LANDLORDS. AND BECAUSE IF THEY'RE VERY SUCCESSFUL THEN THEY WILL CHARGE MORE RENT, I GUARANTEE IT. AND THEN I GUESS THE OTHER THING I WAS WONDERING ON THE ON THE PERMANENT SIGNS, WE HAVE IT WHERE YOU CAN ONLY PUT A SIGN ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, BUT YOU REALLY CAN'T PUT ONE ON THE SIDE. YOU CAN'T. YEAH, THERE'S A AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE YOU CAN HAVE PER WALL, BUT SO IT'S A. IF IT MEETS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT. AND SO FOR A LOT. SO LIKE IF YOU'RE 50,000FT■!S 100,000 IT'S YOUR FRONTAGE REQUIREMENT. SO IT'S LIKE THE LINEAR FOOTAGE OF THE FRONTAGE. THERE'S A CALCULATOR THAT YOU GO THROUGH. RIGHT. SO WITH SOME OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES WOULD THEY ACTUALLY QUALIFY FOR THAT. IS THERE ENOUGH FEET THERE FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY QUALIFY FOR? I MEAN, EACH SUITE GETS A SIGN ON THE 
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BUILDING. SO I THINK THAT THERE IS A MINIMUM YOU GET NO MATTER NO MATTER WHAT. IF THERE'S ONE IN PARTICULAR I DON'T MIND LOOKING IT UP, BUT I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING IN WHERE, WHERE DINO'S AT, AT THE SHELL THERE. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TWO BUSINESSES IN THERE AND THEN YOU HAVE A LITTLE SIDEWALL, WHICH IS BASICALLY ON THE MAIN ROAD. RIGHT. COULD THERE BE A SIGN THERE? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH. THERE COULD BE. WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CURRENT SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING SO WE COULD DO THAT. AND I JUST KIND OF WONDER, LIKE IN THINGS LIKE THAT, IF THERE ARE OTHER PLACES THAT KIND OF FIT THAT, THAT ARE STRUGGLING ALONG WITH VISIBILITY. SO SORRY, LET ME INTERJECT. THANK YOU. EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY IN THE SHOPPING CENTER THAT DINO WAS IN, WHAT ROBIN HAD POINTED OUT ABOUT THE FRONTAGE, WE RAN INTO A HICCUP THERE WHEN WE WERE ACTUALLY PLACING OUR SIGN AT THAT LOCATION. BECAUSE THEY WERE, WE WERE. THE FRONT WAS PUSHED OUT A LITTLE BIT, EVEN THOUGH WE HAD SIDE THAT WAS SET BACK A LITTLE BIT. AND THEY AT THE TIME WE COULD ONLY COUNT WHAT WAS PUSHED OUT. SO WE, WE TECHNICALLY COULD HAVE HAD A BIGGER SIGN. OUR IDEA ORIGINALLY WAS TO PUT OUR BUDDHA WITH, YOU KNOW, WORDS AND THINGS, BUT WE COULDN'T WE HAD TO STEP BACK BECAUSE THAT FRONT THAT WAS PUSHED OUT WAS WHAT WE WERE ALLOWED. AND WE LOST ANOTHER, I THINK, 20FT. I THINK IT WAS OF FRONTAGE THAT WE COULDN'T INCORPORATE THAT BECAUSE IT WASN'T THE WAY THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED. SO IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A FRUSTRATION. I MEAN, WE MADE IT WORK. WE GOT A SIGN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL IN BUSINESS, RIGHT? BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A FRUSTRATION AT THAT TIME. SO. YEAH, JUST THE TEMPORARY SIGNS RIGHT NOW IS WHAT I'M CONCERNED WITH WITH RONALD REAGAN. SO BEING ABLE TO GET IT TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEE IT WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING BY, THAT'S ALL I ASK. WE BUY THE PERMIT, WE'LL PUT IT OUT, WE'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. WE WON'T LET IT GET RIPPED AND UGLY AND NASTY. IF IT DOES, OBVIOUSLY IT REFLECTS ON US. WE'LL GET KEEP, KEEP, YOU KNOW, NICE BANNER OUT THERE AND JUST WE JUST WANT PEOPLE TO SEE IT. THAT'S ALL WE ASK. SO I'M GOING TO ASK A QUESTION. AND I DON'T MEAN THIS IN ANY SORT OF SNARKY WAY. I MEAN THIS IN IN I WANT AN ACTUAL ANSWER ON THIS. WHAT IS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO? IF ALL THE THINGS UNDER THE SPECIAL PACKAGE WAS JUST ALLOWED BY RIGHT, AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. LIKE, I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE AFRAID OF? WE'RE AFRAID OF PEOPLE PUTTING OUT BANNERS THAT WE DON'T LIKE OR BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU HAVING A BANNER OUT. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANY OF OUR BUSINESSES HAVING A BANNER OUT OR LIKE THE LITTLE LIKE, YOU SEE THOSE STUPID BANDIT SIGNS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO FIX YOUR ROOF, I'D RATHER SEE ONE FOR SCHATZBERGER. YOU'RE AT LEAST RIGHT. INCLUDING OUR ECONOMY, A LOT OF OTHER PLACES HAVE. THOSE SIGNS ARE NOT LEGAL, BY THE WAY, BUT I FEAR I SEE THEM ALL THE TIME ON THE CORNER. I'M LIKE, HOW COME? YES. WHERE'S THE INSPECTOR ON THAT ONE, THOUGH? YEAH, THEY CALLED ME, BUT YEAH, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING. CITY MANAGER, DO YOU MIND ANSWERING? I MEAN, IN ALL HONESTY, WHAT ARE WE WORRIED ABOUT? WELL, IT'S THE PROLIFERATION. YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK ABOUT SIGN CLUTTER AND YOU THINK ABOUT PEOPLE UNRESTRICTED, PUTTING BANNER AFTER BANNER AFTER BANNER, THEY BECOME DISTRACTIONS. THEY CAN WHERE THEY CAN TEAR, THEY CAN FADE. SO THERE'S THAT QUALITY OF PLAY. SO WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE YOUR YOUR ARTERIALS AND YOUR MAIN ROADS ATTRACTIVE AND KEEPING THEM, YOU KNOW, A POSITIVE REFLECTION OF THE COMMUNITY, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD THINK ABOUT WITH THE WITH THE SIGN CODE AND HOW TO MANAGE THOSE BANNERS. BUT ARE THERE OTHER WAYS THAT IT'S TYPICALLY MANAGED LIKE, I'M FINE WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS IF YOUR SIGN IS RATTY, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT OUT, RIGHT? I GUESS THAT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF LOTS OF THEM BEING OUT, BUT THAT'S ALSO A PROBLEM WE DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD HAVE. RIGHT? WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. THE CONDITION, THE SIGN, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S IF IT'S TORN OR TATTERED, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE ONE THING. WE CAN'T REALLY TAKE CONTENT. YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'D HANDLE FADING THINGS LIKE THAT. WE DEFINITELY WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT SPACING, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW FAR, HOW FREQUENT THEY COULD GO UP. YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. VISIBILITY TRIANGLES. SO MAKING SURE THERE'S NOT VISIBILITY OR SAFETY ISSUE. THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS WE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO THINK ABOUT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND THOSE WOULD ALL BE COMMON SENSE THINGS I MEAN WE WANT TO PUT A SIGN RIGHT ON THE ROAD. IT'D BE BACK A LITTLE BIT OBVIOUSLY. BUT THERE ARE SOME BUSINESSES NOT AS FINE AS SHARPSBURG THAT WOULD WANT THE SIGN. YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK FOR CLARITY. DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR? BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO A TEMP SIGN, BUT WITH ARE YOU ASKING FOR SIZE BECAUSE IT'S CLARIFIED THAT THERE'S NO SIZE LIMIT FOR THE TEMPORARY. SO IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE WANTING OR YOU JUST WANT IT TO BE CLOSER TO THE ROAD? I JUST WANT TO BE SEEN. YEAH, I WANT TO BE. SO NOT NECESSARILY A BIGGER SIGN. NO, NO. IT'S LIKE A IT CAN BE CLOSER TO OKAY, SOME BANNERS JUST A REGULAR SIZE. 
          IT'S NOT HUGE. IT'S NOT LIKE A FLYING GORILLA OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST A REGULAR OLD BANNER. BUT 
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JUST TO BE SEEN, I JUST WANT IT TO BE SEEN AND IT'S NOT BEING SEEN. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. YES. GOOD DISTANCE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO. MR. PARTON BROUGHT UP THE PROLIFERATION ISSUE, AND I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT. WE WANT TO BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL OF THAT. HAVING COME FROM A HOUSTON SUBURB AND SEEING THAT HAPPEN, IT'S NOT ATTRACTIVE. IT AND IT'S DEFINITELY A DETERRENT TO BUSINESS. SO WHILE YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE YOUR SIGN, THE THING WOULD IF TEN DINOS WANTED TO HAVE THEIR SIGNS NEXT TO EACH OTHER, THAT BECOMES A PROBLEM. SO I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT. RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND WHILE WE KIND OF WORK OUT SOME OF THE THINGS. I DID HAVE A QUESTION, ROBIN, ON ON SIGNAGE THAT IS EXISTING. SO EXISTING SIGNAGE WHERE AN OWNER WANTS TO TAKE THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE OF CHANGING THE SIGNAGE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OF THE NEW ORDINANCES AND WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO. ARE THEY ALSO ALLOWED TO ARE THEY RESTRICTED TO PUTTING THE LARGER SIGNAGE IN THE SAME LOCATION WHERE THE EXISTING SIGNAGE, SO THEY COULD MOVE THE SIGNAGE TO GET BETTER VISIBILITY WHEN THEY PUT THE NEW SIGNAGE OUT? RIGHT. AS LONG AS IT FALLS WITHIN THOSE GUIDELINES, WE ALSO CHANGE THE REQUIREMENTS. IT USED TO BE YOU COULD HAVE JUST ONE MONUMENT. WE'VE NOW ALLOW MORE MONUMENTS. THIS THIS IS A MONUMENT, SO YOU COULD HAVE MULTIPLE. SO IF YOU WANTED TO BREAK IT UP TO WHERE LIKE BRASS TAP AND RAY I. RIGHT. 
          YOU COULD DO HALF OF THE HALF AND THERE'S STILL A SPACING REQUIREMENT. IT WAS MEANT FOR THOSE BIGGER DEVELOPMENTS RIGHT. YEAH. RIGHT. NO I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION. I JUST WAS THINKING THIS THROUGH FROM Y'ALL'S PERSPECTIVE. IF I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, I WAS LIKE, WE CAN'T HELP WITH ANY COSTS. BUT IF YOU DID HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT, AND I THINK IF THE ORDINANCE IS CLEAR ON THAT, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME CLARIFICATIONS THAT NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT BUSINESS OWNERS UNDERSTAND THAT THEY COULD DO THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE THAT'S THE CASE. I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE WE NEED TO PUT SOMETHING OUT, LIKE NOT NECESSARILY A PRESS RELEASE, BUT SOMETHING THAT KIND OF SAYS, HEY, IT CHANGED. MAYBE LOOK AT THIS LIKE GATEWAY. WHEN THEY SUBMITTED, THEY USED THE OLD ORDINANCE TO SUBMIT. THEY DIDN'T USE THE NEW STANDARDS, SO WE HAD TO CORRECT THEM AND SAY, HEY, YOU HAVE THIS OPTION. SO IT MIGHT BE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. YEAH, I THINK I THINK THAT'S THE SAME THING. I WOULD THINK LIKE WHEN WE DID THE SMALL BUSINESS FORUM, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A REALLY, REALLY GOOD THING TO HAVE POINTED OUT. SO PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE WE ADD THAT TO GET THAT TYPE OF CONVERSATION AND WORK ON A COMMUNICATION PLAN FOR THE SIGN ORDINANCE CHANGES. 
          THERE YOU GO. WHAT IF YOU PUT A NOTICE INTO THE WATER BILLS FOR ANYTHING THAT'S COMMERCIAL BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S RECEIVING THAT, RIGHT? YEAH, I SEE THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE IT. RIGHT. 
          YEAH, YEAH I DON'T GIVE ANYTHING. NO. OKAY. OH YOU DON'T DO YOUR OWN WATER FOR YOUR BUSINESS. OH. OH. GOTCHA. YEAH. AND WE WOULD NEED TO GO TO BOTH. WE CAN BRAINSTORM SOME IDEAS ON HOW TO COMMUNICATE IT. OKAY. JUST FOR MY OWN EDUCATION AND STILL LEARNING HERE, THE GAS STATIONS AROUND TOWN, LIKE I'VE SEEN. YOU KNOW, I WAS DRIVING DOWN 183 A TODAY, AND I SAW THE SHELL GAS STATION OR THE SIGNAGE RULES FOR GAS STATIONS DIFFERENT. I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT THE LOLLIPOP STAND LIKE LOLLIPOP SIGNS, I THINK WITH LIKE THE, THE GAS PRICES ON THEM, IT SEEMS TO BE MORE VISIBLE THAN SOME OF THE SIGNS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO OTHER FOLKS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT A LOLLIPOP SIGN IS LIKE A PYLON. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE IN LEANDER, UNLESS IT'S A REALLY OLD GAS STATION. ARE THEY GRANDFATHERED IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR IF IT'S AN OLDER ONE? YEAH, THEY IT'S A POLE SIGN WITH THE IMAGE ON TOP. YEP. YEAH. YEAH. SO IT'S PROBABLY AN OLDER DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT SOMETHING WE'D HAVE INTEREST IN EXPLORING? I THINK WE'RE DOING THE SAME HEIGHT THAT JUST HAS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER BASE ON IT. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. DO WE HAVE ANY SIGN PERMIT SUBMISSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DENIED OVER THE LAST YEAR? WE DO. WE DO SO. AND THEY IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T GET A SIGN WE WORK WITH THEM TO IMPROVE IT. THE RECENT ONE. IT'S A IT'S A FILM. THEY CALL IT LIKE I FILM, BUT IT ADDS THIS FLASHING LIGHT ON YOUR WINDOWS. 
          AND THAT'S A SAFETY CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S FLASHING INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY. THIS KIOSK SIGN THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WASN'T ALLOWED BY THE ORDINANCE. THE WHITE BACKGROUND SIGNS, WE ALREADY SOLVED THAT ONE. SO MOST OF THEM, WE EITHER FIND A WAY TO FIX IT OR WE HELP THEM WITH AN ALTERNATIVE METHOD. SO NOTHING THAT'S BEEN DENIED. DENIED. NO, NO OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION HERE. I THINK I'VE 
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GOT A LOT OF DIRECTION. YES OKAY. YEAH. SO I'VE GOT I FEEL LIKE THERE WERE LOTS OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT. SO MY NEXT STEP IS GOING TO BE FIRST TO CHANGE THE PROMOTIONAL SIGN PACKAGE. AND I CAN TURN THAT AROUND PRETTY QUICKLY. WE'RE GOING TO COMMUNICATE TO BUSINESS OWNERS ABOUT THE CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF IT. I LIKE THAT I'M GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH DINO SIGNS AND THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON MAYBE COMMUNICATING BETTER ON THOSE PLANS TO MAKE SURE CODE ENFORCEMENT KNOWS WHERE THEY CAN GO. WELL, AND THE APPLICANT TOO, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IF DINO HANDS IT OFF TO SOMEBODY ELSE, AS A MANAGER, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FROM OUR END, OUR INSTRUCTIONS ARE CRYSTAL CLEAR TO YOU, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. NO, I LOVE THAT. ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. 
          APPRECIATE YOU. THANKS, Y'ALL. THIS HAS BEEN AMAZING. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANKS FOR LISTENING TO US. REMEMBER THAT NEXT TIME WE'RE IN. NO I'M KIDDING I GOT IT. KIDDING, KIDDING. ALRIGHT LET'S SEE WITH THAT COUNCIL, LET'S TAKE A TEN MINUTE RECESS. THE LET'S DO THIS. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE AT 8:42 P.M. ITEM NUMBER 21, DISCUSS AND 
          [21. Discuss and consider action on an Ordinance amending Ordinance No. 24-075-00 to update the City of Leander's annual budget for Fiscal Year 2025, ensuring alignment with financial priorities and necessary funding adjustments.]
CONSIDER ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 07500 TO UPDATE THE CITY OF LEANDER'S ANNUAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025, ENSURING ALIGNMENT WITH FINANCIAL PRIORITIES AND NECESSARY FUNDING ADJUSTMENTS. CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER WILLIAMS, GOOD EVENING. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WAS TRYING MY BEST TO GET US OUT OF HERE EARLY EARLIER, BUT COUNTING ON YOU. EXACTLY. SO TONIGHT I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTING THE THIRD QUARTER BUDGET AMENDMENT REVIEW FOR 2025. THIS REVIEW EVALUATES OUR FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE THROUGH THE FIRST NINE MONTHS OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. IT ALLOWS US TO RECOMMEND STRATEGIC ADJUSTMENTS TO ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE WITH ALIGNMENTS FOR OUR OPERATIONAL PRIORITIES, CAPITAL PROJECTS AND FISCAL POLICIES. IT ALSO AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO REVIEW OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS UNANTICIPATED EXPENDITURES, REALLOCATE RESOURCES WHERE NECESSARY, AND MAINTAIN FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT TOTALS $6 MILLION IN REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES ACROSS SEVERAL CITY FUNDS, WHICH INCLUDES THE GENERAL FUND, UTILITY FUND, THE GOLF FUND, AND MULTIPLE OTHER SPECIAL FUNDS. THEY ARE CHARACTERIZED BY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, PERSONNEL OF WHICH THAT'S THE COMPENSATION PLAN THAT YOU THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVED LAST MONTH. IT ALSO INCLUDES VEHICLES, PARK IMPROVEMENTS, TECHNOLOGY, GOLF ENHANCEMENTS AND SOME OTHER MISCELLANEOUS EXPENSES. OF THIS $6 MILLION, ABOUT 4.9 IS ALLOCATED FOR ONE TIME EXPENSE. 
          EXPENSES FOR MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, VEHICLES, SPECIAL STUDIES AND SOFTWARE. THE REOCCURRING EXPENSES TOTALED 1.1 FOR REOCCURRING SALARY ADJUSTMENTS RELATED TO THE CITY'S NEW RECENTLY ADOPTED COMPENSATION PLAN AND SOFTWARE SERVICES. I WANT TO TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO. PRESENTATION HERE. POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FINANCIAL SNAPSHOT FOR OUR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES. SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A BUDGET OF $77.6 MILLION. OUR YEAR TO DATE ACTUALS IS ABOUT 66.5, WHICH PUTS US AT ABOUT 85.7%. 
          EXPENDITURES. BUDGET, AGAIN IS 7.70 7.6. THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURES TO DATE ARE ABOUT 52.6 MILLION. WE'RE AT ABOUT 67.7% NOW. PROPERTY TAXES ARE PRIMARILY COLLECTED IN THE SECOND QUARTER OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WITH OVER 80% THAT'S BEEN COLLECTED YEAR TO DATE. THE BULK OF THE REVENUE COMES IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OF THE YEAR AND CONTINUES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          PROPERTY TAXES ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT 58% OF OUR TOTAL REVENUE COLLECTED. WE HAD A 5.9 GENERAL FUND TRANSFER TO CIP THAT OCCURRED IN THE SECOND QUARTER OF THIS YEAR. THESE ARE CARRYOVER FUNDS FROM THE PRIOR YEAR TO FUND ONE TIME EXPENSES IN OUR GOLF FUND. REVENUES FOR THIS YEAR, ABOUT $3.7 MILLION YEAR TO DATE, ACTUAL IS 2.4. WE'RE AT ABOUT 63.7%. THE EXPENDITURES ARE 2.7 MILLION AT THIS POINT, AND WE'RE ABOUT 73.4%. THIS NEXT SLIDE GIVES YOU 
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A SNAPSHOT OF OUR UTILITY FUND, WITH THE REVENUES BEING AT 54.2%. AND THE YEAR TO DATE ACTUALS ARE 39.4, WHICH PUTS US AT A 72.7%. EXPENDITURES ARE ABOUT $43.3 MILLION. AND THAT PUTS US AT 79.8%. NEXT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME KEY REVENUE TRENDS. AS I SAID EARLIER, THE SALES TAX CONTINUED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN UPWARD TRAJECTORY. THE ACTUALS FOR FY 24 WAS AROUND $11.5 MILLION. THIS YEAR. WE BUDGETED 11.8. OUR YEAR TO DATE ACTUAL IS ABOUT $77 MILLION, WHICH IS A 59.3% ATTAINMENT PROPERTY TAX IN 2024 WAS 33.4 MILLION. THIS YEAR, WE BUDGETED 38.3 YEAR TO DATE. ACTUAL IS TRACKING ABOVE 100%. SO WE'RE DOING QUITE WELL IN OUR PROPERTY TAX DEVELOPMENT FEES. IN FY 24 WAS ABOUT 8.1 MILLION. THIS YEAR. WE BUDGETED A LITTLE BIT LESS BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMEWHAT OF A DECLINE IN OUR DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY. OUR YEAR TO DATE ACTUAL IS APPROXIMATELY 5.2 MILLION. WE'RE AT 73.3%. 
          FRANCHISE FEES IN 2024. 4.7 MILLION. THIS YEAR. WE BUDGETED PRETTY MUCH THE SAME IN FY 25. 
          OUR YEAR TO DATE ACTUAL IS AROUND $3 MILLION, WHICH IS 63.5%. NEXT, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE $6 MILLION BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU. THIS PAGE JUST REALLY ILLUSTRATES SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I MADE EARLIER ABOUT WHY BUDGET AMENDMENTS ARE IMPORTANT. 
          AND THERE'S A COMPILATION OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT THAT'S IN YOUR PACKAGE THAT TOTALS THE $6 MILLION. NEXT SLIDE. THIS THIS SLIDE BASICALLY ILLUSTRATES THE FUND, THE AMOUNT, THE ALLOCATION YEAR AND THE SOURCE OF THAT PARTICULAR REVENUE. AND AGAIN, IT TOTALS $6 MILLION. NEXT SLIDE. TO ILLUSTRATE IT SOMEWHAT IN A SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT FASHION, THIS PAGE SHOWS YOU THE BREAKOUT FOR THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS BY CATEGORY. AGAIN, THERE'S $3.3 MILLION IN CAPITAL, ABOUT $1.1 MILLION IN PERSONNEL, 630,000IN VEHICLES, PARKS IMPROVEMENTS, ABOUT 425,000. WE'VE GOT TECHNOLOGY TWO 206 AND THERE'S SOME MISCELLANEOUS AMENDMENTS IN THIS BUDGET. GOLF IS AROUND 89,000. AGAIN, IT TOTALS $6 MILLION FOR OUR BUDGET AMENDMENTS. NEXT PAGE. THIS LAST SLIDE JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU A COMPARISON OF THE GENERAL FUND, THE GOLF FUND. AND IT SHOWS THE COMPARISON BETWEEN OUR EXPENSES AND REVENUES. AND IT JUST KIND OF GOES ACROSS GENERAL FUND, GOLF FUND AND THE UTILITY FUND. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL I JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. SO ON THE PROPERTY TAX WE'RE AT 110%. AND SO THAT'S CALCULATED BASED ON IT. WE GET A NUMBER FROM THE COUNTY. AND THEN WE CALCULATE WHAT THE VALUE IS. AND THEN SO WHY WOULD WE OVERRUN IT. BECAUSE NEW PROPERTIES ARE COMING ONLINE AND THEY'RE GETTING TAXED. IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS. THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO WE CAN EXPECT THAT FOR 42% OR THAT 10% ACTUALLY BE FACTORED INTO THE NEXT YEAR. AND WE'LL SEE IT WHEN WE GET OUR WILCO ON THAT. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT SIR OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ARE WE DOING A MOTION TO ACCEPT? A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT IS APPROVED. SORRY A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU. 
          [22. Discuss and consider action on the 2025 Special Legislative Session; reaffirm the City's 2025 Legislative Program; and direct Staff on any appropriate program priorities being considered at the Special Session.]
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ITEM 22. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE 2025 SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE SESSION. REAFFIRM THE CITY'S 2025 LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM AND DIRECT STAFF ON ANY APPROPRIATE PROGRAM PRIORITIES BEING CONSIDERED AT THE SPECIAL SESSION. ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. 
          HI, COUNCIL. I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, SO I'LL BE QUICK. JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BASE WITH COUNCIL ON OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. SPECIAL SESSION IS IN THE MIDDLE. IT'S CURRENTLY GOING ON RIGHT NOW. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON AT THE CAPITOL. AND AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON AT THE CAPITOL. IF YOU CAN FOLLOW THE NEWS. BUT WITH THAT, JUST KIND OF WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON JUST SOME BILLS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE BEING REALLY FOCUSED ON A LOT OF FLOOD RELATED AND DISASTER PREPAREDNESS BILLS HAVE BEEN FILED AND ARE CONTINUING TO BE FILED. A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH INTEROPERABILITY BETWEEN DIFFERENT AGENCIES. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FUNDING BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED AS WELL, SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME BILLS COMING FORWARD TO FUND EARLY WARNING SIRENS AND EVERY KIND OF COMMUNICATIONS AND TECHNOLOGY THAT WOULD BE OFFERED TO CITIES. SO WE'LL SEE HOW FAR THOSE COME ALONG. THERE'S OTHER BILLS RELATED TO PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, SUCH AS SENATE BILL NINE THAT HAS THAT HAS PASSED THE SENATE, THAT WILL REDUCE THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE FROM 3.5% TO 2.5%. AND SO BILLS ARE STILL GETTING FILED. WE HAVE OVER 500 BILLS FILED ALREADY THIS SPECIAL SESSION. I ANTICIPATE THERE WILL BE A SECOND ONE AND A POTENTIAL THIRD, JUST WITH CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON. AND WITH THAT IN THE PACKET, WE PROVIDED THE COPY OF THE RESOLUTION WITH THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND WANTED YOU ALL TO GIVE A CHANCE TO PROVIDE US DIRECTION. IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO INCLUDE IN THERE AS PART OF THE SPECIAL SESSION, I'VE BEEN FOCUSING A LOT ON, YOU KNOW, FLOODING AND DISASTER PREPAREDNESS AND THEN ALSO ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAVE A FINANCIAL IMPACT TO THE CITY. SO WITH THAT, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER ADDING, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. AND SO THANK YOU, COUNCIL. I'M JUST READING THROUGH THE ADDITIONAL TOPICS OF INTEREST TO COMMUNITIES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS SESSION ARE LEGISLATION REDUCING THE PROPERTY TAX BURDEN ON TEXANS, LEGISLATION PROHIBITING TAXPAYER FUNDED LOBBYING. LEGISLATION THAT PROTECTS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FROM PUBLIC DISCLOSURE. LEGISLATION SIMILAR TO SENATE BILL 1253 FROM THE 89TH REGULAR SESSION THAT AUTHORIZES POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS TO REDUCE IMPACT FEES FOR BUILDERS. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW ABOUT LIMITING THE AMOUNT THAT CAN BE COLLECTED IN IN PROPERTY TAX, ESPECIALLY AT A TIME WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT FEMA FUNDING LESS ON THE DISASTERS AND WE ARE NOT DOING HORRIBLE IN THIS, BUT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE AND IT COULD BE US NEXT TIME. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US TAKE A STRONG STANCE ON THE SECONDARY DISASTER THAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE'RE HANDCUFFED ON ON FURTHER ON WHAT WE CAN COLLECT TO MAKE UP FOR WHAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET REIMBURSED ANYMORE. THAT USED TO BE IT'S BEEN SURPRISING THIS GO AROUND, SEEING HOW DIFFERENT THE RESPONSE FROM FROM STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES IS. ANYTHING ELSE. I THINK WE'RE GOOD THEN. OKAY. YEAH, I'LL BE AT THE CAPITOL TOMORROW. GOING TO BE TOUCHING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ON. A LOT OF THOSE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF BILLS. AND THERE'S EVEN BEEN INTRODUCED EXPENDITURE CAP BILLS. SO THERE'S BILLS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE TARGETING CITIES. AND HOW MUCH THE CITY CAN, YOU KNOW, SPEND ON CERTAIN THINGS. AND THE BIG THE BIG PUSH IN CONVERSATIONS AMONG CITIES AT THE LEGISLATURE IS PUBLIC SAFETY. RIGHT. AND WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED WITH DISASTERS AND EVERYTHING, IT'S ESPECIALLY FOR GROWING CITIES. THAT LIMITS US IN THE LONG TERM. 
          RIGHT. AND HOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO FUND PUBLIC SAFETY. AND SO THAT'S BEEN A BIG TALKING POINT THAT A LOT OF CITIES AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN REITERATING AT THE CAPITOL TO OUR LEGISLATORS, BECAUSE JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WE'RE RAISING OUR TAXES, IT'S JUST THE WAY THE STATE CALCULATES THINGS IS BIZARRE, RIGHT? YES. AND WHAT THEY COUNT AS, AS RAISING I HAVE SOME SOME PERSONAL THOUGHTS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S FOR THE CITY. LIKE LIKE A LOT OF THE DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW ABOUT OUTDOOR WARNING SYSTEMS, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD INCREDIBLY HELP OUR, OUR NEIGHBORS. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD TAKE UP AS A CITY. ARE WE SHOULD WE CONSIDER THINGS THAT HELP OUR NEIGHBORS BUT ARE NOT DIRECTLY US? YES. SO THERE'S A BILL THAT IS BEING HEARD TOMORROW. SENATE BILL. I HAVE IT WITH ME. IT'S LIKE SENATE BILL 
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FOUR. BUT THAT BILL WOULD ALLOW THE STATE TO GO AND DO I THINK IT'S SOME SORT OF STUDY. AND THEY WOULD DESIGNATE WHAT THEY CONSIDER AS FLOOD PRONE AREAS. AND WITH THAT, THEY WOULD REQUIRE CITIES AND COUNTIES TO INSTALL EARLY WARNING SIRENS. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO FUND THAT TOO. 
          THAT'S THE WAY THAT BILL READS IN THAT SAME BILL. IT ESTABLISHES A GRANT PROGRAM, BUT WITH GRANTS, THERE'S ONLY SO MANY THAT COULD COME AROUND. AND SO THAT'S THE CONCERN I INITIALLY HAD WITH THAT BILL TOO, IS WELL, ULTIMATELY THE BURDEN IS GOING TO FALL ON TAXPAYERS. RIGHT. AND WHAT IS GOING TO QUANTIFY WHAT IS GOING TO QUALIFY AS THESE FLOOD PRONE AREAS AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO PRIORITIZE THAT? SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE KIND OF BEEN PUTTING TOGETHER, AS YOU KNOW, TALKING POINTS TO THINK OF. AND THEN IT'S VERY FOCUSED ON FLOODING WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED. WHAT ABOUT THE RISK FOR TORNADOES, WILDFIRES, IF WE'RE PUTTING EARLY WARNING SIRENS IN SPECIFIC PLACES THAT ARE FLOOD PRONE, WHAT ABOUT OTHER AREAS THAT ARE PRONE TO THESE OTHER DISASTERS? EXACTLY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS I THINK IT'S THE PROBLEM IS NOT NECESSARILY THE FLOOD PRONE, IT'S THE CONNECTIVITY ISSUE. SO LIKE WHEN WE LOOK AT SANDY CREEK, THEY HAVE HORRIBLE CELL SERVICE, IF ANY AT ALL. THEIR THEIR POWER GOES OUT SOMETIMES, AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY CAN RECEIVE ALERTS IS IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, HOOKED UP TO WI-FI FOR THEIR PHONES. IF THERE'S A WILDFIRE COMING, THEY NEED TO BE ALERTED. IF THERE'S A FLOOD COMING, THEY NEED TO BE ALERTED. 
          IF THERE'S A TORNADO, LIKE IT'S STILL GOING TO BE THE SAME PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS THE CONNECTIVITY. IT'S NOT THE SPECIFIC DISASTER. IT'S THERE. YEAH. AND THERE'S I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH SOME OTHER CITIES TOO WHO ALREADY HAVE EARLY WARNING SIRENS, AND THERE'S A CONFUSION LEVEL AS WELL THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE NOW THERE THERE'S CERTAIN RESIDENTS WHO ARE PRONE TO LISTEN FOR CERTAIN SIGNALS OR SOUNDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO NOW THERE COMES A CONVERSATION OF AUTOMATED, YOU KNOW, VOICE MESSAGES THAT, YOU KNOW, GO ON WITH THE WARNING SIRENS AND THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND WHEN I WAS IN THE DALLAS AREA, WE ACTUALLY HAD THOSE EARLY WARNING SIRENS WHERE IT WAS AN AUTOMATED VOICE THAT WOULD TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE DISASTER IS. AND SO IT WOULD BE CHANGING UP. A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, ALREADY ESTABLISHED SIREN SYSTEMS ALREADY THAT ARE HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, IN THE STATE. AND SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO FILTER THROUGH WITH THE BILL. BUT I THINK THIS IS A FIRST STEP JUST TO INTRODUCE THING. AND SO I'LL BE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE BILL AUTHORS AND PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTIONS ON HOW WE I THINK LOOKING AT IT HOLISTICALLY IN THE LONG RUN WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL FOR COMMUNITIES. I MEAN, WE ALL WORK TOGETHER AS A REGION, SO LET'S THINK LIKE IT. YEAH. YEAH OKAY. THANK YOU. DO ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL. DO YOU NEED ANYTHING FROM US? I DON'T I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 23. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER DIRECTING 
          [23. Discuss and consider directing City staff on the selection of benchmark cities for comparative analysis of the City of Leander Community Survey.]
STAFF ON THE SELECTION OF BENCHMARK CITIES FOR COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS OF THE CITY OF LEANDER COMMUNITY SURVEY. ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER. WELCOME. I'M BACK. IT'S THE LAST ITEM. RIGHT. 
          SO WE GOT A LITTLE DELAYED WITH THE COMMUNITY SURVEY BECAUSE OF THE FLOODING EVENT. WE WERE RESPONDING TO THAT. AND SO AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY SURVEY, YOU KNOW, THAT CLOSED ON JULY 6TH, WE HAD OVER A THOUSAND RESPONDENTS TO THE OPEN SURVEY, WHICH IS MORE THAN DOUBLED THAN WHAT POCO IS USED TO FROM GETTING RESPONDENTS. SO WE HAD A GOOD TURNOUT FOR THAT. AND SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COLLECTING ALL THE DATA AND PUTTING A REPORT TOGETHER THAT WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY. AND AS PART OF THAT IS COMPARING HOW WE HOW WE ARE IN COMPARISON TO OTHER CITIES. AND SO IN THE PACKET, WE PROVIDED A LIST OF TEXAS CITIES AND TEXAS CITIES THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH POCO. IT'S QUITE A COMPREHENSIVE LIST. AND SO WE WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU ALL AND REALLY GET, YOU KNOW, YOUR DIRECTION. ON WHO DO YOU ALL WANT TO BE COMPARED TO? YOU KNOW, THERE'S CITIES THAT ARE COMPARABLE OUR SIZE, BUT THERE MAY BE OTHER CITIES THAT YOU ALL WOULD WANT TO BE ASPIRED TO BECOME. YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, AS YOU THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE HOW WE WOULD RATE AND FAIR COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES. AND SO JUST WANTED Y'ALL'S DIRECTION ON THAT AND, YOU KNOW, RELAY THAT TO POCO SO WE CAN START PUTTING THAT REPORT TOGETHER. SO YOU ALSO INDICATED THAT THE COMPENSATION STUDY HAD A CERTAIN LIST OF CITIES. ARE THOSE CITIES AS WELL IN THIS POCO MIX OR THE SAME CITIES THERE IN THAT MIX? IT'S SOME OF THEM ARE IN HERE. AND SO I KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED, YOU KNOW, WHICH ONES LIKE CEDAR PARK, FARMERS BRANCH, FLOWER MOUND, SOME LARGER CITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, WEREN'T SELECTED IN THE BENCHMARK CITIES THAT Y'ALL MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER, LIKE FRISCO. RIGHT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY BECOME LIKE KIND OF LIKE HERE IN THE AUSTIN AREA. SO THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO LOOK AT. SO I THINK HAVING A WIDE RANGE OF BENCHMARKS COULD COULD, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH THAT. SO IN YOUR ESTIMATION, WOULD YOU SAY THAT 
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THE BENCHMARK CITIES THAT WE USE FOR THE COMPENSATION STUDY WOULD NEED AMENDMENT TO POTENTIALLY GIVE US A BETTER RESULT SET FROM WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE SURVEY? YEAH. SO THE YOU KNOW, THE COMPENSATION STUDIES FOCUS ON POSITIONS AND SALARIES AND HOW, YOU KNOW, OUR PERSONNEL WOULD COMPARE TO THAT. YOU KNOW, WITH THIS SURVEY IT'S FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY LIVABILITY. RIGHT. SO THIS IS FOCUSED ON CITY SERVICES, COMMUNITY OFFERINGS THAT ARE HERE OVERALL. AND SO YOU KNOW I DID HIGHLIGHT JUST WANT ME TO KIND OF GO THROUGH OR MAYBE MAYBE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO I JUST YOU KNOW HIGHLIGHTED CITY, CEDAR PARK, FARMERS BRANCH, FLOWER MOUND FRISCO, GEORGETOWN, LITTLE ELM, MCKINNEY, NEW BRAUNFELS, ROUND ROCK AND SAN MARCOS, JUST BASED ON VICINITY HERE. AND THEN ALSO KIND OF WHAT I'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO IN THE DALLAS AREA AND KIND OF SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, THEIR COMMUNITY, WHAT'S OFFERED IN THEIR COMMUNITY, AND THE TYPE OF SERVICES. AND I WOULD SAY. THE LEVEL OF RESPONSE, PUBLIC RESPONSE TO THOSE TYPES OF CITIES AND STUFF. SO. THANKS, TY. YOU KNOW, FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MIND FOR ME IS LIKE WANTING TO GAUGE OUR OUR NEARBY NEIGHBOR CITIES TO ROUND ROCK, CEDAR PARK, GEORGETOWN, LIBERTY HILL, SOME OF THOSE CITIES THAT ARE POPULATION WISE, SIMILAR TO US, SIMILAR TO US IN INCOME, AND THEN ALSO ON SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT CURVES. AND THEN I THINK AS WE'RE TEXAS CITY LOOKING NORTH TOWARDS DALLAS, AND THEN ALSO TO HOUSTON AND SAN ANTONIO, AND SEEING IF WE CAN FIND A FEW CITIES THAT POPULATION WISE ARE LIKE REACHING US OR A LITTLE BIT PAST US IN THE CURVE. AND, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE MAJOR METRO CENTER AND TYING IT TO THAT. COUNCILMEMBER HERRERA. SO GOING THROUGH THE LIST OF THE CITIES AND EVERYTHING, I THOUGHT PARKER COLORADO WOULD BE A GOOD ONE THERE. THEY THEY'VE KIND OF A BEDROOM COMMUNITY THAT'S PROBABLY TRYING TO GET OUT OF THAT. AND THEN ELK GROVE, CALIFORNIA WOULD BE A GOOD ONE. I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER AREA THAT IS A GOOD POPULATION SIZE FOR US. THEY'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF BREAKING OUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR TO US AS THEY KIND OF GREW UP AS A SUBURB OF SACRAMENTO WHERE PEOPLE MOVED OUT THERE AND, AND EVERYTHING. SO I THINK THOSE WOULD BE TWO GOOD ONES OUTSIDE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. I THINK FLOWER MOUND IS ANOTHER GOOD ONE. SO I THINK THE IDEA OF DOING ALL THE PROXIMITY ONES AROUND IS KIND OF LIKE YOU DID WITH THE COMPENSATION. THE ONES THAT ARE SIMILAR MAKES SENSE. AND IT MIGHT NOT BE BAD JUST TO THROW AUSTIN IN THERE IF I DON'T THINK AUSTIN IS ON THE LIST THOUGH, IS IT? YEAH. SO OR SOMEBODY A MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREA AND COMPARING US ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD BASELINE FOR WHEN, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY WHEN PEOPLE SAY PUBLIC SAFETY, IF WE KNEW A PLACE WAS UNSAFE AND 30% OF THE RESPONDENTS COME BACK AND SAY IT'S SAFE, WELL, WE KNOW THAT PROBABLY IN ANY, ANY, ANY MUNICIPALITY, THERE'S GOING TO BE 30, 30% OF THE PEOPLE ARE REALLY NOT ATTACHED TO WHAT THEIR ANSWER IS. AND SO AND SO THEN YOU CAN TAKE THAT A VARIANCE FROM THAT AND KIND OF SEE WHAT IS THE REAL MOVEMENT IN THAT NUMBER VERSUS JUST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST FILL OUT SURVEYS. THEY DO ALL THAT. THEY DO ALL RIGHT. THEY DO ALL MIDDLE. AND SO NOT THAT I DID THAT, BUT I JUST THINK THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IS TO FIND SOMETHING THAT'S A REAL OUTLIER TO COMPARE AGAINST. SO YOU HAVE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BE LIKE, BUT SOMETHING THAT IS TOTALLY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU WANT TO BE EITHER. SO THAT'S JUST MY ADVICE. DO YOU WANT TO GO DOWN THE LINE? SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE CITIES IN MIND OTHER THAN MAYBE CEDAR PARK, BECAUSE I WANT PEOPLE THAT ARE MORE CONNECTED, LIKE US. YOU DON'T HAVE A MAJOR INTERSTATE RUNNING THROUGH YOUR CITY, JUST THE HIGHWAY. SO CITIES THAT COMPARED TO US THAT WAY, BUT THEN ALSO THAT ARE PART OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION THAT DO LOSE SOME OF THEIR SALES TAX REVENUE AND HAVE SOME OF THIS SAME CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE DO. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S REALLY COMPARED US MORE TO APPLES TO APPLES. WRITTEN. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE ON THE LIST ONE, WE'RE CONSIDERING CITIES THAT HAVE A SIMILAR POPULATION AS WHAT OUR ESTIMATED GROWTH WILL BE, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE WON'T STAY WHERE WE ARE AT 90,000 PEOPLE, BUT WE ALSO ARE NOT GOING TO BE A MILLION PEOPLE WITH SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH A POPULATION OF A MILLION PEOPLE. 
          SO MAKING SURE THAT WE CONSIDER THAT. AND I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY TO. COUNCILMAN HERRERA'S POINT THAT, IS THERE SOME OBJECTION OR CONCERN WITH CONSIDERING CITIES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE STATE, BECAUSE IT'S GOOD FOR US TO HAVE THAT COMPARISON, TOO. BUT I DO THINK WITH THE FOCAL POINT OF INCOME, SIMILAR TO WHAT OUR MEDIAN INCOME IS FOR THE CITY, BUT ALSO 
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WITH OUR POTENTIAL ESTIMATED POPULATION, WOULD BE WHEN WE ACTUALLY REACH OUR CRAWL PACE IS IMPORTANT. THANK YOU AGAIN. TO ECHO COUNCILMAN HERRERA'S POINT, I THINK A COMPARATIVE KIND OF ON THE EMERGING END WOULD ALSO BE A GOOD THING TO LOOK AT. SO MAYBE SOMEONE WHO IS TRENDING TOWARDS 90 IS NOT QUITE THERE YET, BUT THERE'S SEVERAL COMMUNITIES IN OUR GENERAL AREA THAT ARE WORKING TOWARDS THAT TO GET A FEEL FOR EMERGING COMMUNITIES. AND MAYBE THAT COMPARATIVE AS WELL WOULD HELP US JUST TO HAVE BOTH ENDS OF THE SCALE. COUNCILMEMBER ROSE, MAYBE IN THE LAST ONE TO SPEAK. I'M NOT SURE I HAVE REALLY ANYTHING TO ADD. EVERYTHING EVERYBODY SAID IS GOOD FOR ME. OKAY. GO AHEAD. SORRY. EARLIER AND THIS IS ON TOPIC, BUT NOT THE SAME THING. 
          AT A POINT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BLENDING THE RESULTS ON THE SURVEY. DID WE EVER GET ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON THAT? YES. HAS RECOMMENDED KEEP THE RESULTS SEPARATE JUST BASED ON THE HOW HOW LARGE OF A GAP WE HAVE IN TERMS OF RESPONDENTS. SO YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY MY EARLIER COMMENT ON ON THE CITIES AND ALSO ON SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT THE OTHER MEMBERS HAD, WHICH IS I WAS STICKING WITH ALL TEXAS CITIES BECAUSE ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THE TAXATION MODELING THAT HAPPENS ACROSS DIFFERENT STATES. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M FROM MINNESOTA AND I SEE MAPLEWOOD, MINNESOTA, WHICH IS FIVE MINUTES FROM MY PARENTS HOUSE. AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT THAT MONEY IS APPROPRIATED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND ALSO THE STATE LEVEL. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG FACTOR IN TERMS OF LIKE SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENT CURVES. AND SO I WANT TO SEE LIKE SPECIFICALLY THE TEXAS STORY, AS OPPOSED TO COMPARING OVER TO PENNSYLVANIA OR MINNESOTA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO BE TEXAS CENTRIC, BUT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO A FEW, A FEW OTHER BENCHMARKS. AS LONG AS WE'RE WE'RE GOING OFF OF SOMETHING THOUGHTFUL, I THINK. I THINK ELK GROVE IS A VERY GOOD COMPARISON, AND I'M WILLING TO BET OUR RESIDENTS ARE HAPPIER THAN ELK GROVE. JUST SAYING. I USED TO LIVE THERE. SO I THINK LOOKING I WAS LOOKING AT THE LIST, LOOKING FOR SIMILAR MEDIAN INCOME AND POPULATION. AND CEDAR PARK CAME UP AND GEORGETOWN CAME UP, MISSOURI CITY ALSO, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MISSOURI CITY OR WHAT THEIR SITUATION IS. IS IT SIMILAR TO US AT ALL? I'M GOING TO SAY NO COMMENT. OKAY. THERE'S SOME CITIES. YEAH, RIGHT. I DON'T ACTUALLY THINK THAT ROUND ROCK IS A GOOD COMPARISON BECAUSE THEY'RE A VERY DIFFERENT ANIMAL. AND LIKE GOING BACK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE TAXATION LIKE THEY ARE SO DIFFERENT WITH BEING ON 35, NOT BEING IN TRANSIT, HAVING DEL MONEY. RIGHT. LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE DEL MONEY, YOU CAN DO ANYTHING. 
          ROUND ROCK IS KIND OF MY SPIRIT ANIMAL FOR CITIES, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S AN APT COMPARISON. I'M SURE SOMEWHERE IN THIS LIST OF CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY, THERE ARE CITIES THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO US. GAITHERSBURG, MARYLAND MIGHT BE A GOOD ONE. I THOUGHT THAT LOOKED CLOSE TO WHAT THE CENSUS THINKS OUR POPULATION IS AND THE INCOME IS SIMILAR. I WAS TRYING TO FIND I KNOW THERE'S SOME OTHER AREAS IN MARYLAND. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR, BUT I KNOW THERE'S SOME I WAS READING ABOUT THE OTHER DAY WHERE IT'S THE SAME COMPLAINTS OF THE CITY JUST ALLOWS ANYTHING TO KEEP BUILDING. IT'S SO BUILDER FRIENDLY, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES OR THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND I WAS LIKE, THIS IS US, RIGHT? AREAS LIKE THAT I FEEL, MIGHT BE A GOOD BENCHMARK. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF FIGURING OUT WHAT THEY ARE. LET'S SAY GAITHERSBURG IS AN INTERESTING COMPARISON. IT'S AN RE GENTRIFYING CITY, SO YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT. IT WAS A RURAL. IT'S A IT'S A REALLY HISTORIC RURAL FARM COMMUNITY THAT'S EVOLVING INTO A HIGH DENSE. IT'S GOT PHARMA TECH. 
          IT'S GOT RAIL THAT TAKES YOU FROM DC AREA INTO I THINK IT I THINK IT I THINK THEY'RE AT THE TERMINUS OF THAT SECTION OF THE LINE. SO IT MAY BE A GOOD COMPARATOR. CERTAINLY SOME ELEMENTS THAT WE WOULD ASPIRE TO WORK. MARYLANDERS ARE VERY HAPPY THOUGH. WE ALSO LOOK AT CITIES WHOSE POPULATION GROWTH HAS MIRRORED OURS OR HAS BEEN RAPIDLY GROWING. SOME OF THE CITIES THAT I SEE ON THIS LIST, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE MINNESOTA LIST, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF MY BASE OF KNOWLEDGE COMES FROM. THEY'VE BEEN STAGNANT ON GROWTH FOR YEARS. LIKE THEY HAVEN'T REALLY GROWN ANY MORE. MAPLEWOOD HAS ONLY HAD 3000 MORE PEOPLE IN THE 25, 30 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN AROUND IT. SO I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT THE 
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GROWTH MODELING IS THE SAME. DO YOU NEED US TO VOTE ON SPECIFIC THINGS OR IS THIS JUST GOOD DIRECTION? THIS I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOOD DIRECTION. SO WHAT I CAN DO IS WE'LL DO SOME RESEARCH INTO CITIES BASED ON WHAT COUNCIL IS DIRECTED TODAY. AND WE CAN KIND OF PUT TOGETHER A LIST AND A TABLE FOR Y'ALL AND BRING THAT BACK. AND THEN IF YOU ALL ARE GOOD WITH THAT, OR IF THERE'S ANY OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE ON THAT LIST THAT Y'ALL WANT TO PULL AS THE BENCHMARKS, HOW MANY DO WE NEED TO HAVE IN THE END? 15. AT LEAST 15. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. SO I THINK WE CAN GET THERE. YEAH. YEAH I THINK WE'RE LIKE HALFWAY THERE. YEAH. IF WE WERE LIKE FOUR I'M LIKE YEAH YEAH. NO, NO IT'S 15. AND THE COMMUNITY SURVEY IS A TWO YEAR SURVEY. SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'LL SEE. RIGHT. AND SO AS OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE OUT THERE DOING THE SURVEY, WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING REAL THE SAME LIKE CURRENT INFO AS WELL IN OUR COMPARISONS. AND WE COULD ALWAYS TWEAK BENCHMARKS IF WE NEED TO AS NEW CITIES ARE PART OF THE SYSTEM. SO THANK YOU. YEAH OKAY I HEARD SOME TALK ABOUT LARGER METRO CITIES. I'M ALMOST MORE INTERESTED IN SMALLER CITIES THAT HAVE A HIGH. THEIR RESIDENTS ARE HAPPY WITH WHERE THINGS ARE BECAUSE HOW ARE OTHER CITIES DOING WELL WITH LESS? BUT I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD FIGURE THAT OUT ON THE BENCHMARK. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M MORE INTERESTED IN THAT THAN THE METROS PERSONALLY, BECAUSE THE METROS ARE. THEY'RE AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THING ALTOGETHER, I THINK. BUT ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM 24 COUNCIL MEMBER CLOSING COMMENTS 
          [24. Council Member Closing Statements.]
PLEASE ONE. GOOD NIGHT PLEASE. GOOD NIGHT. GOOD NIGHT. PLAY SIX. SPENDING MY 32ND WEDDING ANNIVERSARY WITH Y'ALL TONIGHT HAS BEEN FANTASTIC. HAPPY ANNIVERSARY I THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I KNOW HE'S NOT WATCHING, BUT HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, DOUG. OH, PLEASE. FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED, THIS SATURDAY, I BELIEVE IT'S THE WHOLE WEEKEND. BUT ON SATURDAY IT STARTS AT BENBROOK PARK. THERE IS A DISC GOLF TOURNAMENT. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. THAT'S A REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING THING GOING ON AT THAT PARK. AND OTHERWISE. GOOD NIGHT. THANKS. I WANT TO SAY HAPPY BACK TO SCHOOL. TO ALL THE PARENTS WHO ARE EXCITED FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO BE BACK IN SCHOOL. AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OUR TEACHERS AND EDUCATIONAL PROFESSIONALS FOR WHAT Y'ALL ARE ABOUT TO EXPERIENCE. MOST EVERYBODY I KNOW IS GOING BACK TO SCHOOL NEXT WEEK. SO HAPPY. BACK TO SCHOOL. STAY SAFE. REMEMBER THE SCHOOL ZONE. SLOW DOWN, PAY ATTENTION, GET OFF YOUR PHONE AND LET'S FOCUS ON THAT. THANKS. 
          SO GONNA START OUT WITH HAPPY ANNIVERSARY. HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, BECKY. AND TONIGHT HAS BEEN INTERESTING. SO WE ACCEPTED COUNCIL MEMBER MCDONALD'S RESIGNATION. AND SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE STILL WITH US FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE DID THAT ON CONSENT AND THAT I APPRECIATE YOU. AND I'M SURE THE REST OF COUNCIL DOES, AND REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING UP HERE ON THE BIAS. ALSO, AS ALWAYS, WE PICKED UP DINNER FROM RIGHT HERE IN LEANDER. WE PICKED UP DINNER FROM TORCHY'S TACOS UP REAGAN. AND IF SOMEBODY TELLS YOU THAT IS IN GEORGETOWN, YOU TELL THEM THEY'RE LYING. IT SAYS GEORGETOWN TO THE POST OFFICE, BUT THAT IS INSIDE LEANDER CITY LIMITS. AND WE HAD THEIR TACOS TONIGHT AND IT IS DELICIOUS. SO FEEL FREE TO GO SHOP UP THERE, GO TO THE H-E-B, TOMLINSON'S, ALL THOSE THINGS AND KNOW THAT YOU ARE SUPPORTING LEANDER. AND REMEMBER, IF YOU CAN'T GET IT IN LEANDER, IT'S PROBABLY NOT ANYTHING YOU REALLY WANT ANYWAY. ALSO, I HAVE A VERY EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENT. LPAC IS ANNOUNCING THIS YEAR'S ART FEST. THE THEME IS ART TOBERFEST CELEBRATING ART AND OKTOBERFEST. IT WILL BE IN LAKEWOOD PARK ON OCTOBER 11TH FROM 3 TO 7. COME ENJOY SOME GOOD FOOD, MUSIC, FAIRY HOUSE CONTEST IN THE SCULPTURE GARDEN AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, CELEBRATE ART WITH LOCAL ARTISTS. VISIT THE LPAC FACEBOOK PAGE OR THE CITY'S WEB PAGE FOR MORE DETAILS. THERE WILL ALSO BE A CHILDREN'S ART CONTEST FOR THE LITTLES. SO FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY. HOPE TO SEE YOU OUT 
          [25. Convene back into Executive Session, if needed, pursuant to:Section 551.071, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05 Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding acquisition of property for public purpose; andSection 551.071, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05 Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding Cause No. 20-0217-C425 Daniel Brown, Maria Brown, and ZG Properties, LLC v. City of Leander, and Section 551.071, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05, Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding development impact on flooding; andSection 551.071, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05, Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) No. 1 reimbursements; andSection 551.087, Texas Government Code deliberate the purchase, exchange, lease, or value of real property and deliberate proposed economic development incentives for one or more business prospects that the governmental body seeks to have locate, stay, or expand in or near the territory of the governmental body is conducting economic development negotiations along with consideration and possible action on a Chapter 380 Agreement for Project EDA-25-007; andSection 551.089, Texas Government Code, deliberation regarding deployments relating to information resources technology. 
Reconvene into open session to take action as deemed appropriate in the City Council's discretion regarding:Acquisition of property for public purpose; andCause No. 20-0217-C425 Daniel Brown, Maria Brown, and ZG Properties, LLC v. City of Leander; andDevelopment impact on flooding; andTax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) No. 1 reimbursements; andChapter 380 Agreement for Project EDA-25-007; andDeployments relating to information resources technology. 
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THERE WITH YOUR LEDERHOSEN AND WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO ITEM 25 TO RECONVENE BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. DO I NEED TO READ THIS ALL OFF AGAIN? DARA? OH, I DON'T LIKE THAT. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO CONVENE BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO NUMBER ONE, SECTION 551.071, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 1.05, TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE. AND NUMBER TWO, SECTION 551.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE IN SECTION 1.05 TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF 
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PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING CAUSE NUMBER 20 0217C425 DANIEL BROWN, MARIA BROWN AND ZG PROPERTIES LLC VERSUS THE CITY OF LEANDER AND NUMBER THREE, SECTION 551.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE IN SECTION 1.05 TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING DEVELOPMENT, IMPACT ON FLOODING AND NUMBER FOUR, SECTION 551.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 1.05 TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER ONE REIMBURSEMENTS AND NUMBER FIVE. SECTION 551087 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE, OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY AND DELIBERATE PROPOSED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES FOR ONE OR MORE BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE, STAY, OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE TERRITORY OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY AND IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, ALONG WITH CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENT FOR PROJECT EDA 25007 AND NUMBER SIX, SECTION 551.089 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE DELIBERATION REGARDING DEPLOYMENTS RELATING TO INFORMATION RESOURCES TECHNOLOGY. THE TIME IS ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION TO TAKE ACTION AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE IN THE CITY COUNCIL'S DISCRETION. THE TIME IS 10:06 P.M. NUMBER ONE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE. MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO. ACTION NUMBER TWO. CAUSE NUMBER 20 0217425 DANIEL BROWN, MARIA BROWN AND ZG PROPERTIES LLC VERSUS THE CITY OF LEANDER. MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO. ACTION NUMBER THREE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT ON FLOODING. MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO. ACTION NUMBER FOUR TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE TERS. NUMBER ONE REIMBURSEMENTS. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO ACTION. 
          CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENTS FOR PROJECT EDA. DASH 25007. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO. ACTION. 
          DEPLOYMENTS RELATING TO INFORMATION RESOURCES TECHNOLOGY. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO ACTION. THEN WE ARE
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