May 27, 2026 City Council Special Meeting

[1. Open Meeting.]

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2026, AND THE TIME IS NOW 6:01 P.M. AND THIS IS THE WORKSHOP OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL.

[2. Roll Call.]

[3. Receive a presentation from David Clark, P.E., C.F.M., with EDGE Engineering, PLLC and discuss findings and recommendations on the final draft of the City of Leander Stormwater Master Plan.]

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBER AND MAYOR. CITY ENGINEERS. SO THIS IS A PRESENTATION ON OUR FINAL PRESENTATION WORKSHOP ON OUR STORMWATER MASTER PLAN THAT WE'VE BEEN CARRYING OUT FOR.

IT'S BEEN ABOUT A YEAR NOW. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THE VOLUME UP ON YOUR MIC. IT'S HARD TO HEAR. I KNOW YOU HAVE TO LIKE KIND OF LEAN A SONG. YEAH, TO GET IT. IS THAT BETTER? OKAY. THAT'S BETTER. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YEAH. SO SO WE'LL HAVE DAVID KIND OF RUN THROUGH THE PRESENTATIONS AND WE'RE HERE FOR QUESTIONS. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. TESS, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? EXCELLENT.

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR, CITY STAFF, EVERYONE FOR FOR BEING AVAILABLE AND GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK THROUGH THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. DO WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP ON THE SCREEN? OKAY, WELL, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT WE DELIVERED AT THE BEGINNING OF MARCH. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN THE PRESENTATION IS WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS, THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. I'M GOING TO START BY GOING THROUGH WHAT THE GOALS ARE. THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN IS NOT MEANT TO BE A, A SINGLE DOCUMENT THAT JUST STAYS WHERE IT IS. IT DOES DEVELOP. IT DOES OFFER A LOT OF INSIGHTS AND INFORMATION. IT OFFERS THE FINDINGS THAT WE HAVE FROM OUR MODELING AND OUR CITIZEN FEEDBACK. BUT IT ALSO IS A JUMPING OFF POINT FOR RECOMMENDATIONS. SO. I SURE DON'T. DO WE NEED TO TAKE A MOMENT WHILE WE DO THAT? OKAY. WE'LL TAKE A QUICK A BRIEF PAUSE WHILE WE GET THAT LIKE FIVE MINUTES YOU THINK WOULD BE OKAY. FIVE MINUTES. OKAY. DORA, DO I HAVE TO ADJOURN? ARE WE OKAY TO JUST PAUSE? OKAY, WE'LL JUST RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES. I HAVE TO GAVEL OUT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

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OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO AS I WAS SAYING, THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN IS MEANT TO BE A DOCUMENT THAT HELPS THE CITY ADDRESS PAST ISSUES, BUT ALSO LOOKS FORWARD TO WAYS THAT WE CAN PREVENT DRAINAGE ISSUES FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. WE WAYS TO MITIGATE DRAINAGE SOLUTIONS, NOT JUST BY PROJECTS, BUT ALSO BY POLICY CHANGES. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN STORMWATER MASTER PLAN TODAY. THE OBJECTIVES I'M I'M NOT A PERSON THAT IS JUST GOING TO READ YOU A POWERPOINT. I KNOW WE ARE. WE CAN ALL READ HERE.

SO I'VE GOT MY OWN SCRIPT HERE ON MY SCREEN. SO AS I SAID, PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE IS REALLY THE GOAL OF THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. THE FIRST TWO BULLETS OUTLINE HOW WE IDENTIFY THE PAST ISSUES. SO BASICALLY TAKE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE CITY HAS CREATED THUS FAR, CREATE AN INVENTORY IN GIS THAT WE CAN TRACK AND UPDATE AS TIME GOES ON. IF THERE'S NEW STORM DRAIN INLETS, CULVERTS THAT COME COME TO BE A PART OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, WE CAN TRACK THOSE, KEEP THEM IN A GIS DATABASE, AND THEN WE CAN ALSO KEEP TABS ON THE WHEN, WHEN THE LAST TIME IT WAS CLEANED, MAINTAINED, INSPECTED, SO ON AND SO FORTH. WE ALSO SOLICITED FEEDBACK FROM CITY STAFF AS WELL AS FROM PRIVATE CITIZENS AND WORK THAT INTO OUR MODELING. SO WE DIDN'T RELY SOLELY ON ONES AND ZEROS IN OUR COMPUTER.

WE TOOK, YOU KNOW, IN SOME CASES IT WAS IT WAS JUST ANECDOTAL STORIES. WELL, YOU KNOW, IT RAINS AN INCH IN MY WHOLE YARD FLOODS. WELL, THAT'S STILL A DATA POINT. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TOOK THOSE THOSE ITEMS INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL. THE NEXT THREE BULLETS TALK ABOUT WHERE AND HOW CURRENT FLOODING ISSUES AFFECT THE CITY. AND BASICALLY THIS IS WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD FOR OUR OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, FOR OUR PROPOSED MITIGATION CONCEPTS, WE GENERATED WHAT WE CALL A OR AREAS OF INTEREST. AND OUT OF THOSE AREAS OF INTEREST, WE PRIORITIZE THEM FIRST BASED ON FLOOD RISK. AND THEN WE, WHEN WE CAME UP WITH SOME MITIGATION PROJECTS THAT HELPED SOLVE THE ISSUE, WE REPRIORITIZED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT NOT JUST THE FLOOD RISK, BUT ALSO WHAT DOES THE PROJECT LOOK LIKE AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE FEASIBILITY OF THE PROJECT? THE LAST THREE BULLETS LOOK TO THE FUTURE, BOTH FOR NEAR TERM ACTIONS AND LONG TERM APPROACHES. HOW CAN THE CITY IMPROVE THE WAY IT MANAGES DRAINAGE POLICY, NOT JUST FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT, BUT FOR THINGS LIKE INSPECTIONS, DATA POINTS? THE THE LAST SECTION, WE'LL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL LATER ON, BUT THINGS LIKE WEATHER STATIONS, RAIN GAUGES, STREAM GAUGES, ALL THIS INFORMATION IS NOT JUST NIFTY TO LOOK AT ON A COMPUTER. IT ALSO HELPS INFORM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE TWO YEAR STORM SHOULD REALLY BE TREATED LIKE THE TEN YEAR STORM BECAUSE IT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE FREQUENTLY, BUT IT'S, IT'S QUITE A BIT MORE SEVERE. SO THINGS LIKE THAT REALLY HELP YOU CALIBRATE THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR MODELS. TO LOOK AT THE PAST DRAINAGE CHALLENGES. WE COMPILED, CITIZEN REPORTING, PAST MODELING, WE IDENTIFIED, AS I MENTIONED, THE AREAS OF INTEREST. THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 76 AREAS OF INTEREST FROM THESE 76. WE WE RANKED EVERY SINGLE SITE, ALL 76 BASED ON THEIR FLOOD RISK IN THREE MAJOR CATEGORIES. THE FIRST ONES ARE BASICALLY THE PROPERTY DAMAGE TO PROPERTY, DAMAGE TO PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR PUBLIC FACILITIES. AND THEN OF COURSE INCORPORATED THAT AND FEEDBACK OR THAT, YOU KNOW, KNOWN FLOODING ISSUE CATEGORY. NOW THAT'S FROM, FROM THE 76 AREAS WHERE WE QUANTIFIED RISK, WE TOOK THE TOP 45 AND THEN ADDRESSED OR CAME UP WITH MITIGATION CONCEPTS FOR HOW DO WE FIX THIS ISSUE? HOW DO WE IMPROVE CONDITIONS TO WHERE WE'RE NOT SEEING SEVERE FLOODING OR FLOOD DAMAGE? THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT NUMBERS 46 THROUGH 76 ON THAT LIST ARE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN JUST FORGET ABOUT THEM. WE JUST WITH HOW MANY AREAS OF INTEREST THERE WERE AND HOW SEVERE SOME OF THE FLOODING WAS, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE MAKING GOOD USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS IN, IN UPCOMING BUDGETS AND FISCAL YEAR ALLOTMENTS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS. SO BY ALL MEANS, ONCE WE KNOCK OUT THE FIRST 45, IF Y'ALL WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT 46 THROUGH 76, YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN. JUST FOR INFORMATION IN THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN, THERE'S A LITTLE

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AND SO SOME OF THE SMALLER PIECES OF THE PIE HERE ARE THINGS LIKE EXTERNAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, EXTERNAL PARTNER COORDINATION. THESE ARE INTANGIBLES. THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW, A LOW SCORE IN THOSE CATEGORIES SHOULDN'T TANK A PROJECT, BUT A LOW SCORE IN COST EFFECTIVENESS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MEANS THAT THE PROJECT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE. AND IF THE FLOOD RISK ISN'T, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE REPRIORITIZED AND SOME, ANOTHER PROJECT WITH A MUCH HIGHER RISK CAN BE ADDRESSED FIRST. SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE IDEA BEHIND THE SCORING CATEGORIES. THE TOTAL MAXIMUM POSSIBLE SCORE IS 180 POINTS, THANKFULLY. BUT ALSO UNFORTUNATELY NO ONE GOT ALL THE POINTS THAT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FLOODING ISSUES. WE DO HAVE SOME PROJECTS THAT SCORED ABOVE 100, BUT WE'LL NOTICE ON THE ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE, THERE DEFINITELY SEEM TO BE SOME SEVERE PROJECTS OR SOME PROJECTS THAT THAT WERE SCORED VERY HIGHLY AND ARE RECOMMENDED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. AND SOME OTHER ONES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MAYBE A, NOT A LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SCORING AND HOW IT CAME OUT, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MOMENT. SO IN THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN, WE HAVE WHAT WE'RE CALLING PROJECT CUT SHEETS.

THEY'RE BASICALLY SUMMARY SHEETS, ONE PAGE, EASILY DIGESTIBLE INFORMATION THAT TELLS US WHERE THE ISSUE IS, WHAT'S THE FLOODING SOURCE, WHAT'S THE CREEK, THE RIVER, THE STREAM, WHY IS IT FLOODING? AND THEN WE GO IN AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE PROPOSE TO DO TO FIX THAT ISSUE. SO THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS IN HERE, BECAUSE NOT EVERY SITE FLOODS THE EXACT SAME WAY. NOT EVERY WAY, NOT EVERY SITE. IT'S A LOW WATER CROSSING. THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME NEIGHBORHOODS IN HERE THAT STORM FACILITIES WERE WERE CONSTRUCTED BEFORE ATLAS 14. THE PRECIPITATION UPDATE THAT INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF RAIN THAT WE USE TO ESTIMATE THE STORMS. SO THAT MEANS THAT A LOT OF THE PIPES THAT WERE IN THE GROUND ARE ALREADY UNDERSIZED. SO THERE'S A COUPLE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE DO RECOMMEND SOME REPLACEMENT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. WE DEFINITELY DO HAVE SOME RIVERINE FLOODING, SOME AREAS THAT ARE NEXT TO MAJOR CREEKS LIKE MASON CREEK AND BRUSHY CREEK, NORTH FORK, SOUTH FORK, BRUSHY CREEK. SO REALLY KIND OF SAW ALL OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FLOODING IN OUR AREAS OF INTEREST. ALSO ON THE SHEET, YOU'LL SEE WHERE THE PROJECT SCORED IN EACH ONE OF THOSE EIGHT CATEGORIES. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THE THE FLOOD RISK ITEMS DEFINITELY HAVE THE HIGHER, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY DOUBLE DIGIT NUMBERS, WHEREAS SOME OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER. AND THEN WE'VE OF COURSE GOT THE INFORMATION THAT EVERYONE CARES ABOUT THE PROJECT COST AND IN OUR COSTS. I'LL GO INTO DETAIL ON THIS IN JUST A MOMENT. BUT ON THE COST, THIS IS THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS DESIGN AND SURVEY THE THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE PROJECT IS SHOVEL READY, AS WELL AS THE CONSTRUCTION ITSELF. WE GAVE AN ESTIMATE AS WELL FOR PROJECT DURATION. THIS IS BASED ON OUR OUR PAST EXPERIENCE WITH THESE PROJECTS. OBVIOUSLY, A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS GO INTO A PROJECT DURATION, BUT WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE'RE PLANNING FOR MONEY, YOU KNOW, PLANNING FOR FOR BUDGETS, FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, YOU DON'T JUST LOOK AT A PRICE TAG, SIGN A CHECK AND THERE YOU GO. IT DOES NEED TO BREATHE. YOU DO NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT MAYBE THIS PROJECT IS TWO YEARS LONG, OR MAYBE IT'S ONLY SIX MONTHS LONG. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO FACTOR IN WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING WHAT TO PUT ON YOUR YOUR CIP FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO PROVIDE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN ON OUR ASSUMPTIONS OR OTHER SPECIAL THINGS TO CONSIDER FOR EACH SITE. LIKE I SAID, EACH SITE KIND OF HAS ITS OWN INDIVIDUAL WAY OF, OF, OF ACTING DURING FLOODS. IN OUR MODELING, THERE ARE A COUPLE SITES WHERE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF NO ONE HERE AT THIS TABLE IS A PART OF THE DECISION TO MAKE THIS PROJECT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, WE WANTED TO SAY, HEY, BY THE WAY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THIS CROSSING HERE HAS THESE PARTICULAR CHARACTERISTICS, OR HERE'S THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE MADE WHEN WE PRICED THIS PROJECT. YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY. SO WE'RE

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BUT THE TOP FIVE PROJECTS HERE, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY PROJECT NUMBER FOUR, THAT IS STILL MEADOW AT AT BACK AT EXCUSE ME, BAGHDAD, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF MULTI-PHASED. WE RECOMMEND MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE PHASES JUST BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF A BIG SPRAWLING PROJECT. THERE'S THREE ELEMENTS. THERE'S ONE WHERE THE LEVEE, AN EMBANKMENT ALONG THE FLOODPLAIN REALLY DOES NEED TO BE CERTIFIED AS A LEVEE THAT IMMEDIATELY TAKES HOMES OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN WITHOUT EVER HAVING TO DIG ANYTHING UP. THE NEXT PHASE IS, YES, WE DO NEED REPLACE SOME CULVERT CROSSINGS AND SOME STORM DRAIN. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT SOME IMPROVEMENTS DOWNSTREAM TO HELP CONVEYANCE, ACTUALLY STORMWATER TO BE CONVEYED DOWNSTREAM. SO A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE ALL VERY PLANNING LEVEL, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DO NEED TO GO TO FINAL DESIGN LATER ON BY AN ENGINEER.

BUT THESE PLANNING LEVEL COST ESTIMATES HERE WILL HELP YOU KIND OF BUDGET LIKE. WE WORK INTO THE COST, NOT JUST THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT DESIGN SURVEY. WE ALSO WORKED IN A CONTINGENCY OF 30%, KNOWING FULL WELL THAT NOT ALL 15 PROJECTS ARE GOING TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION TOMORROW. SOME OF THESE MAY BE A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. WE TRIED TO INCLUDE A LITTLE BIT OF CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES FOR SOME OF THOSE PRICES SO THAT SEVERAL YEARS DOWN THE LINE, WE DON'T HAVE A GIANT INFLATION ITEM HERE. SO. GEOGRAPHICALLY WE INCLUDED THIS SLIDE. IT'S IT'S A REPEAT OF THE TOP 15 AREAS HERE. BUT IT ALSO KIND OF SHOWS THAT THESE AREAS OF INTEREST, THESE TOP 15 PROJECT SITES ARE NOT CONGREGATED AROUND ONE PARTICULAR STREAM OR CREEK. THEY'RE ACROSS THE CITY. DEFINITELY. THERE ARE A FEW AROUND SOME OF THE LARGER CREEKS LIKE NORTH FORK AND SOUTH FORK, BRUSHY CREEK, MASON CREEK TOWARDS THE SOUTH, AND MOUNTAIN CREEK. BUT WE ALSO HAVE A COUPLE FLOODING AREAS NORTH, VERY NORTH END OF TOWN, AND WE'VE GOT HERO WAY. ONCE IT GOES OUT WEST OF TOWN ON THE WAY OUT TO, YOU KNOW, PRACTICALLY OUT TO THE LAKE, THERE'S A LOW WATER CROSSING THERE THAT AFFECTS QUITE A FEW PEOPLE. IT'S THE ONLY EVACUATION ROUTE. AND WE DID DID SEE SOME SIGNIFICANT FLOODING THERE. SO IT DRIVES HOME THE POINT THAT NOT ALL FLOODING IS THE SAME. BUT THESE TOP 15 AREAS ARE WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING. GO FORWARD INTO THE STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, OR AT LEAST BE CONSIDERED FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. AND OF COURSE 16 THROUGH 45. YOU CAN ALSO ADVANCE THOSE AS WELL. BUT WE FELT BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE OBJECTIVE SCORING THAT WE HAD BASICALLY APPLES TO APPLES FOR ALL OF OUR PROJECTS. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT HAD THE, THE BEST FEASIBILITY AND COMBINATION OF ADDRESSING FLOOD RISK. SO YOU SAW THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT WE HAD FOR OUR TOP 15, TOP 15 ALL TOGETHER IS ABOUT $13 MILLION, ALL 45. THE TOP 45 PROJECTS IS JUST UNDER $40 MILLION. AND AGAIN, WE DON'T EXPECT THE CITY TO CUT A $40 MILLION CHECK AND START CONSTRUCTING EVERYTHING RIGHT AWAY. WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 2 TO 3 PROJECTS A YEAR, MAYBE FIVE, IF WE'RE FEELING REALLY SPRY IS IS GOOD FOR BUDGETS. BUT THE PURPOSE OF US RECOMMENDING THESE SITES IS BASICALLY HERE IS IN ORDER OF IMPORTANCE IN ORDER OF THE FLOOD RISK, AS WELL AS THE FEASIBILITY AND SOME OTHER FACTORS THAT THAT HELP THE PROJECT GET DONE.

THESE ARE THE ONES WE RECOMMEND FIRST. I THINK I'VE COVERED ALL MY TALKING POINTS BECAUSE I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF HERE. SO THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS GETTING FUN. POTENTIAL FUNDING MECHANISMS. OF COURSE, THE THE STANDARD WAY THAT CITIES TAKE ON INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IS

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IT REALLY DOES HELP TO CALIBRATE THE MODELS THAT WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE STUDY THAT WE THAT WE DID HERE. IT WAS A CITY WIDE STUDY. SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT GOES INTO IT. WE LOOKED AT PAST AND CURRENT FLOOD MODEL PROJECTS.

WILLIAMSON COUNTY IS DOING AN ATLAS 14 REMAP AS WE SPEAK, AND I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO TO PUBLISHING THAT. BUT ALSO AS DEVELOPERS COME THROUGH, THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR OWN DRAINAGE REPORTS. WE TOOK A LOOK AT THEIR MODELS AND THEIR AS BUILTS. EVERY, EVERY DATA POINT THAT WE HAVE HELPS US CALIBRATE AND REALIZE, OKAY, WELL, THIS IS WHAT OUR MODEL SAYS SHOULD HAPPEN, BUT WE KNOW THAT THE RESIDENTS OUT THERE ARE SAYING THAT THAT ACTUALLY FLOODS MUCH SOONER OR REALLY IT'S GOING TO THIS ONE PROPERTY OVER HERE. SO THE THE MODELS THAT YOU HAVE ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS THE INFORMATION THAT YOU PUT IN. AND THE MORE INFORMATION YOU HAVE, THE MORE RESOLVED YOUR MODELS CAN BE. SO ALL OF THESE SYSTEMS, ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WORK TOGETHER TO HELP THE CITY IMPROVE GOING FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY CREATE A MORE RESILIENT CITY FOR FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. SO THAT'S MY NOT SO BRIEF ELEVATOR PITCH, BUT THESE ARE THE CONTENTS OF THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND SPEAK TO YOU ALL ABOUT IT, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR REVISIT ANY ITEMS. WELL, THAT WAS BRIEF. YOU DID IT IN 30 MINUTES. THAT WAS VERY GOOD. I, I BEAT MY ESTIMATE BY SIX MINUTES. YOU DID OKAY, I LIKE IT. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE INFORMATION EASIER TO DIGEST AND FOR BEING SO THOROUGH AND GIVING US AN EASY LIST OF 15 THAT WE CAN WALK THROUGH. THAT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH. I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE MORE FOR STAFF. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CRITERIA THAT WAS USED TO RANK THESE, HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE CIP RANKING THAT WE'RE USING FOR THE OTHER PROJECTS WHEN WE PUT THOSE TOGETHER? SO. YEAH, SO SO CIP RANKING IS KIND OF LIKE AN AMALGAMATION OF ALL THE MASTER PLANS, YOU KNOW, LIKE A KIND OF LIKE A GENERALIZED FORM. THE MASTER PLAN IS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING, WHERE WE LOOK AT ONE ELEMENT OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, LIKE A STORMWATER, WE LOOK AT STORMWATER AND WE SAY, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO IN STORMWATER SPECIFICALLY? SO WE JUST, WE, WE FOCUS FOCUSED ON ONE INFRASTRUCTURE. LIKE WE DO A WATER MASTER PLAN. WE LOOK AT WATER NEEDS AND THEN PRIORITIZE BASED ON THAT. SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR FOCUS IS, WHICH INFRASTRUCTURE WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO THE. SO THE WAY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE

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THANK YOU. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I JUST HAD A QUESTION ON SLIDE 11, WHICH IS YOUR STORMWATER FUNDING OPTIONS PAGE. IS THE STATE'S WATER FUND ALSO INCLUDED AS FAR AS LIKE AN ELIGIBLE FUND THAT WE COULD PULL FROM, OR IS THAT TUCKED INTO THE THE T D, T, WDB? ALL THE ACRONYMS ALWAYS GET TO ME. SO, SO TWDB DOES PUBLISH THEIR INTENDED USE PLAN AND THEIR STATE FLOOD PLAN. I THINK THE LATEST STATE FLOOD PLAN THAT'S PUBLISHED IS 2024. A LOT OF THE FUNDING MECHANISMS AND FUNDING CYCLES THAT THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD PUTS OUT THERE IN LIKE 1 TO 2 YEAR FUNDING CYCLES. A LOT OF THOSE ARE DEPENDENT ON WHAT ARE CALLED ABRIDGED APPLICATIONS. THAT ONE IS MORE LIKE A JOB APPLICATION. IT'S ABOUT 13 PAGES OF INFORMATION, BUT IT'S GOT VERY SET CRITERIA THAT YOU CAN JUDGE KIND OF ACROSS THE BOARD. TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THERE'S ABOUT 5 TO 600 PROJECTS THAT THAT GO IN THAT ARE PART OF THE ABRIDGED APPLICATION. THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND GRANT ADMINISTRATORS THEN PICK THE, THEY, THEY SCORE EVERYTHING.

THEY RANK THEM IN IN TERMS OF THEIR AGGREGATE SCORE, YOU KNOW, VERY SIMILAR TO HOW WE PRIORITIZE THE AREAS OF PRIORITIZE THE AREAS OF INTEREST. BUT THESE ARE THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR A WHILE THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLANNING STAGES FOR A WHILE. SO THE BEST TIME TO SUBMIT A PROJECT FOR GRANT FUNDING WAS YESTERDAY. THE SECOND BEST TIME IS TOMORROW. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ANY AVAILABLE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE. THERE WAS ONE PROGRAM THAT WE WERE TRYING TO RACE THE CLOCK AND GET TO, BUT ULTIMATELY, THE EFFORT THAT GOES INTO THESE APPLICATIONS TO ACTUALLY HAVE A COMPETITIVE APPLICATION, HAVE A SHOT AT GETTING THE GRANT APPLICATION JUST WAS NOT FEASIBLE ON A SHORT, SHORT TIME SCALE. SO THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SIX TO 8 TO 12 MONTHS OF PLANNING, EFFORT AND WORK GO INTO AN APPLICATION, MAKES A MUCH STRONGER CASE FOR AT LEAST GIVES YOU A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT YOU NEED TO ASK FOR IN ORDER FOR YOUR APPLICATION TO BE STRONG. GOT IT. THANK YOU. SO THE THE STATE WATER FUND THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE NEW BILLION DOLLAR A YEAR PROGRAM. THAT'S RIGHT. WITH THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. SO THEY'VE SAID ABOUT 30% OF THAT WILL BE ALLOCATED FOR STORMWATER. I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, BUT ALL OF THE FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS, HISTORICALLY, THE FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND WAS CREATED AFTER HURRICANE HARVEY, AND THEY'VE HAD TO REDO IT EVERY TWO YEARS. SO NOW THEY HAVE A PERMANENT SOURCE FOR THAT AND IT'LL COME OUT OF THAT WATER.

TEXAS WATER FUND. WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT'S GOING TO SHAKE OUT, BUT EVERYTHING DAVID WAS SAYING IS ACCURATE WITH HOW THEY PRIORITIZE PROJECTS AND BEING FULLY TRANSPARENT. THE

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AND SO THOSE CATEGORIES REALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN YOU HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND SPEND PUBLIC FUNDS ON AN IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT YOUR CITIZENS ARE GOING TO ASK YOU. IS IT COST EFFECTIVE? IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH SOMEONE ELSE? IS THERE A FUNDING OPPORTUNITY? AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CATEGORY IN THERE THAT THAT REALLY IS KIND OF JUST FROM FROM WORKING ON THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS BEFORE, WHICH IS DO, DO WE HAVE TO GO TO TEXDOT TO ASK PERMISSION? DO WE HAVE TO WORK SPECIFICALLY WITH WILLIAMSON COUNTY OR TRAVIS COUNTY OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? THOSE ITEMS, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT COST DOLLARS, BUT IT CAN BE QUANTIFIED. YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT ADD A MONTH OR TWO TO THE PROJECTS. IT ADDS A LITTLE BIT OF COMPLEXITY. SO THE CATEGORIES THAT WE'VE GOT IN THERE, WE FEEL STRONGLY PRESENT A MUCH CLEARER PICTURE THAN JUST FLOODING NEEDS AND JUST COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION, I KNOW THAT YOU SPOKE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TOP 15 PRIORITY ON PROJECTS AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE PROBABLY WON'T BE LIKELY THAT WE'LL GET TO ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS IN TERMS OF THE, THE, THE COST ALLOCATION PER SOME OF THESE PRIORITY PROJECTS WITHIN THAT. I KNOW YOU SPOKE TO COUNCILMAN HERRERA ABOUT THE CONTINGENCY COST. DOES THAT ALSO INCLUDE KIND OF INFLATIONARY COST BASED ON THE PROJECT? IT DOESN'T INCLUDE. SO WE DIDN'T DO AN ESCALATOR.

BASICALLY, ALL THE COSTS THAT WE HAVE IN THERE ARE IN $2,026 THERE. YOU KNOW, I, I PUT THE COST ESTIMATES TOGETHER AND I TEND TO BE ON JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN STATE AVERAGE AND LOCAL AVERAGE, JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR BID IS GOING TO HAPPEN. SO THERE ARE HIGHER NUMBERS AS WELL AS A CONTINGENCY, BUT THEY MAY BE OUTDATED NEXT YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, BETWEEN 2020 AND 2022, BOX CULVERTS AND CONCRETE ITEMS. THERE WAS NOT JUST THE PANDEMIC, BUT THERE WAS ALSO ONE OF THE PLANTS IN HOUSTON SHUT DOWN. THAT WAS A MAJOR DISTRIBUTOR FOR FOR CONCRETE AND PRECAST AND, AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN CEMENT SHIPMENTS CAME THROUGH. WE SAW NEARLY A TRIPLE IN SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST ITEMS. NOW, IT WAS TEMPORARY. IT HAS COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT. BUT ONCE YOU CHARGE THAT KIND OF MONEY AND PEOPLE PAY IT, YOU TEND TO KEEP THAT PRICE THERE. SO THERE'S ALL KINDS OF ITEMS THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY FORECAST. BUT WITH THE 30% CONTINGENCY, THAT'S THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD INDICATOR FOR ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO. IT'S, IT'S USUALLY WITHIN THE DECISION MAKING CYCLE FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. NOW, IF IT, IF IT, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT FISCAL YEAR 28, 29, 30, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN YEAH, WE PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT, AT MORE RECENT COST ESTIMATES AND, AND REASSESS THE TOTAL PROJECT COST. BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COST ESTIMATES IN THERE HAD THE QUANTITIES READILY AVAILABLE. SO IF THERE IS, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF $100 PER FOOT OR 110 OR $120 PER LINEAR FOOT, YOU CAN JUST UPDATE THOSE COST ESTIMATES. AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT SIMPLER EXERCISE. YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE DEFINITELY IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE MAYBE IN THE CONVERSATION WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CIP AND WE'RE DOING SOME PRIORITIZATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE THERE COULD BE SOME EXTREME ESCALATING COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH DOING IT NOW VERSUS LATER. YEAH. SO IF I MAY, SO FROM THE. IMPLEMENTATION YEARLY, YOU KNOW, CYCLE OF THIS STORMWATER MASTER PLAN, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, SO TECHNICALLY YOU COULD DO THIS

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YOU KNOW, GUIDELINES IN THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT LIKE THAT 30% ESCALATION OR 30% CONTINGENCY, LIKE WE HAD, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT 45 SOLUTIONS AND DAVID'S A FANTASTIC ENGINEER, BUT THAT'S A LOT TO LOOK AT FOR THE SCHEDULE AND BUDGET THAT WE HAD. SO LIKE WHEN WE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE, THAT DESIGN IS GOING TO COME OUT DIFFERENT. LIKE IT COULD BE CHEAPER, IT COULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE, IT COULD BE BOXES, COULD BE PIPES. RIGHT, RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW. SO THAT 30% CONTINGENCY IS JUST TO KIND OF BUFFER THAT BECAUSE THE ACTUAL ENGINEERING DESIGN IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DID AT THE PLANNING LEVEL. OKAY, GOOD. OKAY. PRO TEM, I WAS GOING TO ASK, I'M SORRY, I'M CHANGING Y'ALL'S ORDER. PRO TEM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NOT A WHOLE LOT. I JUST I GUESS MORE OF A CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I THINK YOU ADDRESSED IT, BUT I'M JUST DOUBLE CHECKING BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE. PROJECTS CAN BE INCLUDED IN OR PART OF ANOTHER. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AS PART OF THIS PLAN THAT WE'VE GOT, THAT OUR STAFF HAS THE ABILITY AND THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE IT. SO IF WE KNOW THAT WE ARE TALKING WITH SOMEBODY ABOUT, THAT'S GOING TO BE WIDENING A ROAD OR DOING THOSE SORTS OF THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SLIDE ONE OF THESE IN TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT SOONER, BECAUSE WE CAN INCLUDE IT. SO WE'RE NOT DOUBLE DOING EVERYTHING. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. ONE OF THE CATEGORIES SPECIFICALLY LOOKED AT THAT AT THE TIME, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE FY 24 CIP, BUT WE LOOKED AT WATER, WASTEWATER PARKS, MUNICIPALITIES, OR MUNICIPAL FACILITIES AND TRANSPORTATION. SO NOT EVERY PROJECT FALLS, YOU KNOW, OVERLAPS WITH IT. BUT THERE WERE DEFINITELY A FEW AND SEVERAL IN THE TOP 15 THAT A FEW OF THEM HAD MORE THAN ONE.

A LOT OF THE NORTH FORK AND SOUTH FORK BRUSHY BRUSHY CREEK SITES ARE ALONG PATHWAYS FOR THE MAJOR WASTEWATER COLLECTORS THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THOSE AREAS AND WASTEWATER FORCE MAINS. SO THERE'S DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A ROADWAY CROSSING, THOSE ARE GRAVITY SYSTEMS JUST LIKE RAINWATER IS. SO IT'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO OVERLAP OR THERE'S GOING TO BE AT LEAST THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TEAM UP ON THOSE PROJECTS.

THANK YOU. PLACE FIVE. OKAY. SO I DID A LITTLE OF MY OWN HOMEWORK AND, AND TRYING TO CORRELATE THIS WASTEWATER. PLANNING WITH THE CIP TO SEE WHERE THEY DID ACTUALLY CROSS OVER AND WHAT I WAS ABLE TO FIND WAS PRETTY MUCH CONFIRMED BY STAFF ON A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS, WHICH DOES SPEAK TO THE OVERLAP ON A FEW OF THESE THINGS. AND I KNOW WE HAVEN'T COMPLETELY GOTTEN THROUGH THE CIP AND THE PRIORITIZATION AND WHATNOT, BUT IT DOES APPEAR TO ME THAT A MAJORITY OF YOUR 15 ARE, AT LEAST IN THE CURRENT CIP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF WEIGH THESE TWO THINGS OUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING TO DO JUST THROUGH THE CONSIDERATION PROCESS, JUST

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WITH A VERY SIMPLE PROJECT, YOU CAN SHOW, YOU KNOW, REDUCED FLOODING AND, AND THOSE GRANT PROGRAMS FUND THOSE ALL DAY LONG. IN FACT, BASTROP, I WORKED ON A, ON A PROJECT APPLICATION FOR TEN INDIVIDUAL SITES IN BASTROP. AND THAT WAS SELECTED FOR LOCATIONS IN CALDWELL, ALL SELECTED UNDER THE SAME PROJECT. MANAGING FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AT ONE TIME WAS CHALLENGING, BUT IT'S IT'S FEASIBLE AND IT'S POSSIBLE. SO WE DID IDENTIFY A FEW. AND IN THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN, WE'VE WE'VE CALLED THEM OUT SPECIFICALLY. THESE ARE GOOD FOR THIS PROGRAM. THESE ARE GOOD FOR THIS PROGRAM. BY THE WAY, HERE'S SOME OTHER OPTIONS.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT I KNOW THIS WAS JUST A DRAFT AND THERE'S PROBABLY STILL SOME ADDITIONAL DONE. ARE THERE ANY LIKE HYPERLINKS WITHIN THAT LONG DOCUMENT TO WHERE WE CAN JUST JUMP TO THESE AREAS? YES. OKAY. EACH SECTION, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE WE'VE GOT THAT IN THERE. I KNOW ALL OF THE TABLES, APPENDICES AND SECTIONS SHOULD BE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO CLICK ON IT AND JUMP AROUND. ALSO ON THE, THE BOOKMARKS TAB, EACH SECTION AND SUBSECTION HAS ITS OWN LINK TOO. SO IF YOU JUST WANT TO SAY, OH, THAT WAS OVER IN THIS SECTION, CLICK THAT. YOU SHOULD BE ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE PLANNED FOR, LIKE FUNDING MECHANISMS TO WHERE WE CAN SAY, OKAY, THIS TYPE OF FUNDING AND JUST JUMP TO THOSE PROJECTS. IS THAT POSSIBLE? OR CERTAINLY, YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AGAIN, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE EXTERNAL FUNDING MECHANISMS TO SEE HOW MANY COULD POTENTIALLY APPLY TO SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY THE LONG TERM PROJECTS THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IN THE CIP AND IN THE IMMEDIATE CALENDAR YEAR. RIGHT. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT 27 AND 28, THAT GIVES TIME TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT PAPERWORK DONE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY SOUNDS ONEROUS. BUT I THINK IF WE LOOK AT IT THAT WAY AND WE PLAN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, IT STARTS TO ADDRESS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER AND THAT WE REALLY KIND OF DON'T KNOW. BUT I THINK WE'RE CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO HAVE A STORMWATER MASTER PLAN THAT MATCHES CLOSELY WITH THE CIP TO WHERE WE CAN START TO DO SOME OF THAT PLANNING. I THINK IF WE JUST USE SOME AGILE CONCEPTS THERE, I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO OKAY, THAT AND THEN IF YOU COULD JUST EXPAND A LITTLE BIT AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT TODAY, BUT I'D APPRECIATE EVEN IF YOU COULD,

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THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND BECAUSE 15 HAS BEEN KIND OF OUR LINE AS FAR AS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING. SO THEN YOU HAD ALSO MENTIONED IN THE DOCUMENT THAT AND THE LOCAL FUNDING, AND THEN YOU TALKED ABOUT POLICY UPDATES, BUT I DON'T SEE THOSE IN HERE, LIKE PARTICULARLY ABOUT DRAINAGE DITCHES AND STUFF. AND THEN YOU WENT TO THE MAINTENANCE PLANNING, WHICH I SEE IN HERE, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY OF THAT POLICY STUFF. AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD SEE THAT. SO THE WE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS ON FUTURE POLICY UPDATES THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE FOR THIS PROJECT. DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SOLICITATION? SO YEAH, SO THE, THE, THE IDEA FOR THIS STORMWATER MASTER PLAN EFFORT WAS TO KIND OF IDENTIFY THE, THE AREAS OF INTEREST THAT WE'RE CALLING THE FLOOD RISK AREAS AND KIND OF COME UP WITH A CIP PLAN, LIKE THE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN, THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEED FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, LONGER RUN TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. AND ADDITIONAL STUFF THAT WE ADDED IN THE REPORT WAS TO LOOK LIKE RECOMMEND TO LOOK INTO THOSE TYPE OF POLICIES IN THE FUTURE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT WASN'T PART OF THE SCOPE TO KIND OF ACTUALLY COME UP WITH A POLICY ITSELF IN WITH THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. SO WE WILL BE DOING A CRITERIA MANUAL PRETTY SOON. WE, WE KIND OF AT THE END OF OUR SOLICITATION RIGHT NOW. SO THAT IS THE ACTUAL POLICY LEVEL DISCUSSIONS WILL HAVE AT THAT POINT WHERE WE KIND OF COME UP WITH AN ACTUAL DRAINAGE POLICY. SO STORMWATER DRAINAGE POLICY WAS NOT PART OF ANY OF THIS. THE ABOVE MAINTENANCE PLANS, THE NUMBER OF GAUGES, WHETHER GAUGES, BUT THE POLICY ITSELF WASN'T PART OF THE SCOPE.

YEAH. SO WE WERE NOT COMING UP WITH THE POLICY. CORRECT. FROM THIS. YES. FROM THIS STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. CORRECT. BUT BASED ON BUT BASED ON WHAT? LIKE THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE, LIKE, DO WE HAVE THE SAME DOCUMENTS THAT THOSE ARE THE POLICIES THAT ARE GOING TO COME FROM THOSE DOCUMENTS? CAN YOU CAN YOU ELABORATE THAT QUESTION A LITTLE BIT? YEAH. WHAT WHAT IS YOUR MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE POLICIES THAT WERE RECOMMENDED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT DRAINAGE OF STORMWATER, AND I DIDN'T SEE THEM IN THIS PLAN. THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING WHERE THEY WERE.

WHAT DID YOU USE FOR THE RECOMMENDED POLICIES THAT WERE MENTIONED? THIS STORMWATER MASTER PLAN ITSELF IS NOT CREATING THOSE POLICIES. SO THAT THAT WASN'T THE IDEA. SO THERE IS A SECTION THAT TALKS THAT DOES HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON FUTURE WORK TO UPDATE CERTAIN POLICIES. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT THERE IS A SECTION IN THE REPORT TOWARDS THE END THAT, OKAY, I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE AN OUTLINE. OKAY, HERE'S SOME POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU SHOULD MAKE THIS BIGGER, THIS BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH BLAH.

COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR IS SAYING IT'S IN SECTION NINE, BUT THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. THANK YOU.

RIGHT, RIGHT. AND BEFORE THE MAINTENANCE PLAN IS WHERE HE HAD MENTIONED THE POLICY

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SO SO THAT SO IT'S IN THERE. AND SO WE'RE MAKING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE'RE NOT COMING UP LIKE THIS IS WE WANT TO CHANGE THIS POLICY TODAY. YOU KNOW, SO THIS THE DCM WOULD BE THE CRITERIA MANUAL WOULD BE, WOULD BE A RIGHT TIME WHERE WE CAN INCLUDE ALL OF THAT POLICY IN THERE. DID YOU HAVE A SECOND QUESTION OR. YEAH. SORRY, IT'S NOT IN THERE. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE JUST CHECKING. SO THE OTHER THING IS, AS FAR AS THOSE PROJECTS TO BE ICIP, IT HAS TO BE A NON RECURRENT NON-RECURRING EXPENSE. CORRECT. SO HOW CAN REMOVING VEGETATION BE A PART OF THAT. SO IT'S WHEN WHEN YOU'RE REMOVING VEGETATION FOR CONVEYANCE THE GOAL IS CONVEYANCE. YOU'RE TRYING TO GET MORE WATER THROUGH THERE. IT'S NOT JUST RIPPING THEM OUT AND HOPING THEY DON'T COME BACK. WE DO LAY DOWN THINGS LIKE A VAPOR BARRIER. SOMETIMES WE DO REVETMENT MATTRESSES THAT THAT REINFORCE THE SLOPE. THEY ENCOURAGE GRASS TO GROW THROUGH.

NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, YOUR PINES AND WILLOWS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THERE IS SOME VALUE TO HAVING VEGETATION THROUGH THERE, BUT NOT, YOU KNOW, GIANT TREES THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, CAN'T SHOPPING CARTS. AND IT WOULD REQUIRE LESS MAINTENANCE IN THE FUTURE.

YES. WHAT YOU'RE CREATING IN THAT SPACE. EXACTLY. MOWING AS OPPOSED TO GOING IN WITH A DUMP TRUCK AND A CRANE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY HAS MADE THEIR COMMENTS. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. OKAY. PLEASED TO. SO THE QUESTION WAS SO SO HOW DO YOU GUYS BALANCE CONVEYANCE AND RETENTION IN THIS PLAN? SO BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO GET ALL THE WATER DOWN INTO CEDAR PARK, RIGHT, RIGHT. IT'S SO IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

CONVEYANCE VERSUS DETENTION. THERE'S A SECTION IN THE REPORT THAT THAT GOES INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL THERE. THE THE SHORT ANSWER, IT'S A MIX OF BOTH FOR SMALLER AREAS THAT ARE GOING INTO A CREEK. SO FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY WE'VE GOT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ABOUT FIVE ACRES, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER MANY HOMES, BUT YOU'VE GOT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF, OF CUBIC FEET PER SECOND THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO CONVEY BY PUTTING NEW IMPERVIOUS COVER ON A PIECE OF LAND, YOU'RE SPEEDING UP THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES FOR THAT WATER TO CONCENTRATE AND RUN OFF. IT'S LITERALLY CALLED THE TIME OF CONCENTRATION. SO THE PRIMARY WAY THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF FLOW DOWNSTREAM AS WE HOLD THAT BACK, AND THEN LET JUST A LITTLE BIT GO AT A TIME SO THAT IT MATCHES EXISTING CONDITIONS. THAT'S NOT ALWAYS A, A SILVER BULLET TO FIX EXISTING CONDITIONS. BECAUSE IF YOU'VE GOT A REALLY LARGE AREA AND YOU'RE TRYING TO TO HOLD THAT BACK WITH THE POND, YOU EITHER NEED A VERY, VERY LARGE POND OR, OR YOU'RE, YOU'RE LITERALLY ALL YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE HOLDING THAT WATER BACK UNTIL ALL THE REST OF THE WATER IN THAT DOWNSTREAM CREEK GETS THERE. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT CONSIDERABLE PROBLEMS DOWNSTREAM. SO THERE IS A SECTION IN THERE WHERE WE TALK ABOUT COINCIDENT PEAK TIMING AND THINGS LIKE DETENTION WAIVERS. THEY MAKE SENSE IN SOME CASES. AND IN FACT, THE THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY DRAINAGE CRITERIA MANUAL DOES HAVE SOME OUTLINES FOR HOW TO FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO SHOW IN ORDER FOR US TO CONSIDER NO DETENTION ON YOUR PROJECT. AND THEY DO HAVE SOME REACHES WITHIN WILLIAMSON COUNTY THAT ARE EXEMPT FROM DETENTION FOR THAT EXACT PURPOSE. THERE'S NO AMOUNT OF RAIN WATER THAT YOU CAN DETAIN. THAT'S NOT GOING TO CAUSE ISSUES DOWNSTREAM OR IS NOT LIKELY TO CAUSE ISSUES. UNFORTUNATELY. THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE SAN GABRIEL RIVER AND SOME OF THE LARGER SOURCES THAT CHAD TOUCHED ON IT EARLIER. BUT JUST BY VIRTUE OF WHERE LEANDER IS GEOGRAPHICALLY, A LOT OF THE WATERSHEDS START IN THE CITY LIMITS. SO IT'S NOT WE DON'T HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND ACRES UPSTREAM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THE SITE. THERE ARE STILL CERTAIN CERTAIN SITUATIONS WHERE IT IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE, BUT THE ANSWER ISN'T ALWAYS GET ALL THE WATER DOWNSTREAM OR HOLD IT ALL BACK. IT DEFINITELY IS IS A MIX OF IT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE OUR, OUR PROFESSION COMES FROM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE AND FOR PRESENTING. THANK YOU. AND WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM FOUR. THANK YOU THANK YOU. YOU NEED A BREAK. YEAH.

OKAY. WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MI WE'RR RECESS. THE TIME IS NOW 712 AND WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM FOUR, REVIEW

[4. Review and discuss the City Council Polices and Procedures, including the City Council Rules of Procedure, City Council Social Media Policy, and the City of Leander Code of Ethics (Article 9.05 of the City of Leander Code of Ordinances).]

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AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT. SO EACH OF YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE GUIDELINES.

IT SHOULD BE THE RULES OF PROCEDURE. YOU SHOULD HAVE THE CODE OF ETHICS. AND THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY. DOES EVERYBODY HAVE THE ONE. I THINK CITY SECRETARY CRABTREE PUT ONE ON YOUR DESK TONIGHT. IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR ONE FOR RETREAT OR THE ONE FROM YOUR ORIENTATION AND ONBOARDING, WE HAVE IT. OKAY. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS UP FRONT ABOUT THE RULES OF PROCEDURE BEFORE WE WALK THROUGH IT THAT WE CAN START WITH? IF NOT, I'LL JUST START AT THE BEGINNING. ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS GOOD DOWN THERE. ALL RIGHT. SO ON PAGE ONE, THESE THESE RULES OF PROCEDURE CAME TOGETHER BASED ON WHAT'S IN OUR CITY CHARTER. AND THEN WE AS A COUNCIL OVER SOME YEARS HAVE ADDED DIFFERENT THINGS TO IT THAT WE HAVE DECIDED AS A COUNCIL TO ABIDE BY. AND SO YOU HAVE THESE SECTIONS THAT ARE BROKEN DOWN A THROUGH, I BELIEVE IT'S E ON HERE WITH DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAT WE WANT TO BE AWARE OF AS A COUNCIL AND AS A DECISION MAKING BODY. SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE GENERAL GUIDELINES. AND I ONLY HIGHLIGHTED A FEW THINGS TO POINT OUT. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, STOP ME ANYWHERE AND WE CAN WALK THROUGH IT. AND IF THERE ARE ANY UPDATES THAT ANY OF YOU ARE RECOMMENDING, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AND ADD IT TO A LIST SO THAT IF IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO VOTE ON LATER, THAT WE CAN DO THAT. BUT WE WON'T BE TAKING ANY ACTION TONIGHT ON ANY OF IT. SO UNDER THE GENERAL GUIDELINES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IMPORTANT IS ONE FOR SEVEN AND NINE THAT I WANTED US TO TAKE A LOOK AT. ONE IS FOCUSING ON WHAT OUR OUR JOB IS, WHICH IS REALLY BEING A POLICY MAKING BOARD. WE ARE NOT ADMINISTRATION. WE LEAVE THAT TO STAFF TO DO. BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY POLICY MAKING. AND SO WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE WALK THROUGH DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COME BEFORE US.

ANOTHER ONE IS NUMBER FOUR IS TO BE BRIEF AND CONCISE TO MAKE SURE YOUR COMMENTS ARE THAT WAY.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE BROUGHT BEFORE US, WE DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT OR HAVE THINGS GO LONGER THAN WHAT THEY NEED TO, OR CONFUSE ANYTHING, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT CLEAR WHAT IT IS WE'RE ASKING OR THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RECEIVE FROM WHAT WE'RE ASKING. SO BE SURE TO BE BRIEF BUT CONCISE FOR IS WEIGHT. ON RECOGNITION FROM THE MAYOR BEFORE SPEAKING. WE'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB OF THAT. I USUALLY CALL ON EVERYBODY BY THEIR PLACE NUMBER SO THAT YOU CAN SAY YOUR COMMENTS IF YOU NEED TO, AND SEVEN IS I'M SORRY.

NINE IS TO REMEMBER THAT COUNCIL DIRECTS AS A BODY THAT WE ARE NOT INDIVIDUALS MAKING DIRECTIONS, BUT WE DO DIRECT AS A BODY AND WE HAVE A MAJORITY VOTE AND THEN THINGS MOVE FORWARD THAT WAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS UNDER GENERAL GUIDELINES BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ON THE AGENDA IS THE PREPARATION OF THE AGENDA. I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW THAT WORKS, BUT THE CITY MANAGER WORKS WITH THE CITY SECRETARY. AND THEN I COME AS MAYOR AND APPROVE THE AGENDA BEFORE IT GOES OUT. AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT APPEAR ON CONSENT AGENDA, YOU MAY BE AWARE OF OUR MEETINGS MINUTES, THE CONTRACTS, EX EXPENDITURES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND ARE WITHIN THE BUDGET WILL APPEAR ON THAT CONSENT AGENDA.

I KNOW I'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE GET THINGS ON CONSENT. THESE ARE SOME OF THE GUIDELINES TO FOLLOW. AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AND FIGURE OUT IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING ON CONSENT. BUT ALSO IF YOU WANT TO REMOVE SOMETHING THAT'S ON CONSENT, YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASK THAT WE REMOVE IT AND THAT WE WE VOTE ON IT SEPARATELY. IF YOU NEED MORE DETAIL OR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. SO THAT IS AN OPTION FOR YOU. ON THE NEXT PAGE. YOU HAVE A QUESTION. YES. GO FOR IT. I WAS GOING TO SAY ON THAT PARTICULAR THERE, I DON'T THINK IT'S AS CLEAR AS IT CAN BE. NUMBER TWO, WITH THE WITH THE AGENDAS AS A WHOLE. OH, OKAY. JUST I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN MAKE REQUESTS. THE TIMELINES HAVE BEEN MOVED.

RIGHT. SO I THINK WE NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT. LIKE WHEN DO WE NEED TO MAKE THAT REQUEST BY AND, AND WHICH, WHICH AGENDA WOULD IT APPLY TO? DOES IT NEED TO BE TWO WEEKS AHEAD? WHATEVER. RIGHT. GOTCHA. SO UNDERSTANDING THE TIMELINES. YEAH. JUST JUST CLARIFICATION

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AND IT'S AT THE TOP OF THAT PARAGRAPH ON THE SECOND PAGE. WEDNESDAY BEFORE THE REGULAR MEETING. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN IF WE GO DOWN TO NUMBER FOUR, IT'S COUNCIL MEMBER CLOSING STATEMENTS. OR WE ALWAYS SAY COMMENTS, BUT STATEMENTS. TWO, THEY IT'S A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS THAT WE'VE AGREED UPON AS A COUNCIL, THAT WE'VE BEEN OPERATING BY WHAT IS APPROVED TO BE IN YOUR CLOSING COMMENT OR YOUR CLOSING STATEMENT. SO OF COURSE, EXPRESSIONS OF THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE, GRATITUDE, THINGS LIKE THAT ARE APPROPRIATE INFORMATION REGARDING HOLIDAY SCHEDULES. I WENT TO D A REMINDER ABOUT UPCOMING EVENTS THAT ARE ORGANIZED OR SPONSORED BY THE GOVERNING BODY. SO BEING SURE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STUFF THAT ACTUALLY IS RELATED TO LEANDER AND IN LEANDER IS HUGELY IMPORTANT, BUT IT LISTS ALL OF THE THINGS, THE CEREMONIAL EVENTS THAT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE THERE, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME COMMENTS THAT ARE NOT THAT DO NOT FOLLOW THESE GUIDELINES. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT OR ADD, THEN WE NEED TO ADD THAT. BUT OTHERWISE WE NEED TO FOLLOW THE STEPS THAT ARE IN HERE. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT OR PROCLAMATION. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. WELL YOU MADE A FACE SO I THOUGHT YOU HAD A OH, OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU HAD A COMMENT. I OKAY, PLEASE. SORRY. YES. BECAUSE I BELIEVE I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE COVERED BY INFORMATION REGARDING A SOCIAL CEREMONY OR COMMUNITY EVENT ORGANIZED OR SPONSORED BY AN ENTITY OTHER THAN THE GOVERNING BODY THAT WAS ATTENDED OR WASN'T SCHEDULED TO BE ATTENDED BY A MEMBER OF THE GOVERNING BODY. SO IF SOMEONE FROM COUNCIL WAS GOING TO ATTEND A NON CITY EVENT, THEY COULD MENTION IT AT COUNCIL. YES. ACCORDING TO THIS THEY CAN. YES.

I JUST KNOW WE'RE ALL NOT ATTENDING ALL EVENTS ALL DAY ON SATURDAY. SO JUST BEING MINDFUL.

WELL, I ATTEND LOTS OF EVENTS, BUT I MAKE SURE TO MAKE MY COMMENTS ABOUT THE ONES THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO OUR LEANDER RESIDENTS AND ONE THAT MIGHT BENEFIT THEM. BUT YES, ACCORDING TO THIS, IF YOU AS A COUNCIL MEMBER ARE ATTENDING SOMETHING IN AUSTIN AND YOU WANT TO MENTION THAT YOU ARE WITHIN GUIDELINES TO DO THAT HERE. GO FOR IT. SO DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN THIS AREA? DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE CLOSING COMMENTS AREA? WE ARE NOT ABIDING BY THE CLOSING COMMENTS. THAT IS THE ISSUE. OKAY. SO IF WE WANT TO CHANGE IT SO THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING IS ABIDING BY, WE CAN DO THAT. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S CURRENTLY HAPPENING. SO WHAT IS IT THAT IS NOT CORRECT. YEAH, THAT'S THAT WOULD BE A NICE CLARIFICATION. OKAY. SO IF WE ARE HAVE IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EVENTS THAT WE ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY ATTENDING, BUT THAT WE HAVE MADE THE PUBLIC AWARE OF, THAT IS NOT IN THIS GUIDELINE. IF WE'RE GIVING COMMENTS ABOUT, LET'S SAY, I KNOW YOU DO. FACTS AND HISTORY OR WHATEVER FOR WORLDWIDE OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY FALL UNDER HERE. SO IF WE WANT THAT TO CONTINUE, THEN WE NEED TO MAKE AN ADDITION TO THIS SO THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING BY OUR OWN GUIDELINES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE THAT WE HAVE ACCEPTED. SO THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE WITH WHAT'S NECESSARILY BEING DONE, IT'S JUST THAT IT DOESN'T FOLLOW THE CURRENT THAT IS NOT FOLLOWING THE CURRENT GUIDELINES. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABIDING BY OUR OWN GUIDELINES. OKAY. SO IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND ADDING? I WOULD

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OR IF IT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT IT FITS PERFECTLY IN, THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT ADDING THAT AT A FUTURE AND WE'RE DOING THAT IN FUTURE. YEAH, WE'RE NOT DOING IT TONIGHT. WE'RE JUST WOULD YOU TALKING ABOUT IT WAS THAT SOMETHING WILL BE PUT ON THE AGENDA. SO YES, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ADDITIONS OR UPDATES TO THE COUNCIL PROCEDURES. YES. I'M SORRY. I HAVE A HARD TIME. YEAH. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL A LONG TIME. BECKY'S BEEN ON COUNCIL A LONG TIME. THIS IS A RELATIVELY WELL-BEHAVED COUNCIL. ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING? I'M TRYING TO SAY SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY WE'RE OLD. WELL, IS THAT WHAT I WAS SAYING? I WAS SAYING YOU'RE WISE, BUT. OKAY, I'LL TAKE THAT. I'LL TAKE ONE. SO, SO BUT BUT THE THING IS, IS THESE WERE PUT IN PLACE FOR DIFFERENT REASONS, BECAUSE COUNCIL HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN AS WELL BEHAVED AS WE ARE.

SO YOU ARE CORRECT. COULD YOU COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT FOR THAT? FOR US, I WOULD SAY THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THESE RULES AND PROCEDURES BEFORE. 21 THESE WERE PUT IN PLACE BECAUSE OF BEHAVIORS THAT WERE GOING ON WITH COUNCIL AS IT RELATES TO STAFF, AS IT RELATES TO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS BEHAVIOR THAT WAS HAPPENING ON THE DAIS DURING COUNCIL MEETINGS, THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND THAT'S HOW ALL OF THIS CAME TO BE AS A STRUCTURE TO BE PUT IN PLACE FOR WHAT HAPPENS, NOT JUST TODAY, BUT GOING FORWARD WITH ALL COUNCILS GOING FORWARD. SO THEY HAVE A BASELINE OF WHERE TO ACT FROM. EVERY PROFESSIONAL BOARD HAS A OPERATING PROCEDURE AND BEHAVIORS THAT THEY PUT IN PLACE. THERE IS NOT ONE THAT OPERATES THAT DOES NOT WE DID NOT HAVE THAT. SO THAT'S HOW THIS CAME TO BE PUT IN PLACE.

SO THAT AS A PROFESSIONAL OPERATING BOARD, WE HAVE STANDARDS, RULES AND PROCEDURES THAT WE'RE HOLDING OUR OWN SELVES ACCOUNTABLE FOR. NOW, EVERYBODY HERE WAS DULY ELECTED BY THE THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THE REALLY COURSE OF ACTION THAT WE HAVE, IF SOMEBODY DECIDES THEY NO LONGER WANT TO FOLLOW THESE, IS REALLY TO CENSURE SOMEONE AS A BODY, WE HAVE THAT ABILITY. BUT THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US. BUT IT'S HARD TO DO WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE WRITTEN PROCEDURES THAT YOU'RE FOLLOWING AND HOLDING YOURSELF ACCOUNTABLE TO. YES, PLEASE. ONE THANK YOU, MAYOR, APPRECIATE US HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER THIS COUNCIL RULE OF CONDUCT AND PROCEDURE TONIGHT. I THINK IT JUST COMES DOWN TO RESPECT, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE GET TO GO OVER THIS TOGETHER. I FEEL LIKE THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING GOOD FOR US TO GO OVER ANYTIME WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS ELECTED. BUT I KNOW THAT YOU AND BECKY AND YOUR WISDOM WERE AROUND DURING THE TIMES IN WHICH I THINK PREVIOUS COUNCILS MAYBE DIDN'T EXHIBIT THESE BASE LEVELS OF RESPECT.

AS A FORMER COMMITTEE STAFFER AND LEGISLATIVE STAFFER, AND ALSO JUST BEING IN LEGISLATIVE BODIES, I DO FEEL LIKE THERE'S A CERTAIN LEVEL OF DECORUM THAT WE AT CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HOLD OURSELVES TO. AND AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, I FEEL LIKE IT'S KIND OF THE WILD WEST SOMETIMES, AS OPPOSED TO THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE AND SOME OF THESE BODIES. AND AGAIN, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT AGE YOU ARE, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PARTY YOU ARE OR LACK OF PARTY YOU ARE. IT'S JUST IMPORTANT THAT WE TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT, BECAUSE THE CITIZENS OF LEANDER HAVE ELECTED US, EACH OF US DULY ELECTED. AND WHEN WE GET TOGETHER, IT'S NOT ABOUT PERSONAL ATTACKS. IT'S ABOUT GETTING THE BUSINESS THE CITY DONE. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT I RESPECT ALL OF YOU, REGARDLESS OF THE FACT WE MAY DISAGREE ON CERTAIN ISSUES. SO JUST APPRECIATE THAT. AND THANKS FOR GOING OVER THIS. THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE

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OKAY. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE THEN ON. WELL, FOR ME IT'S THE THIRD PAGE, BUT 165 OF 189 IT'S CONDUCTING THE MEETING. IT JUST TALKS ABOUT THE PRESIDING OFFICER. AND THE PRESIDING OFFICER IS THE MAYOR. AND MY ABSENCE. THE MAYOR PRO TEM WILL PRESIDE OVER THE MEETING. IF FOR SOME REASON WE BOTH ARE NOT AVAILABLE, THEN WHOEVER IS ON COUNCIL AT THE TIME WILL VOTE ON WHO WILL ACT AS MAYOR PRO TEM AND RUN THAT MEETING. AND IN OUR FIVE YEARS, WE'VE ONLY HAD THAT HAPPEN ONCE, WHICH WAS, I THINK, BACK IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID MCDONALD RAN THE MEETING BECAUSE BOTH OF US WERE OUT. SO WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT HAPPEN VERY OFTEN. BUT THERE ARE RULES THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW. IF IF FOR SOME REASON IT DOES HAPPEN. NUMBER THREE TALKS ABOUT CONSIDERATION OF AGENDA ITEMS AND C IS DEBATE SHALL NORMALLY BE CLOSED AFTER EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER WISHING TO SPEAK HAS BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY. I KNOW WE HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON OCCASION, BUT TYPICALLY THIS IS WHAT OUR POLICY IS AROUND THAT. AND THEN NUMBER FOUR IS ABOUT EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT'S JUST A REMINDER THAT WE'VE ALL SIGNED NDAS AND CERTAIN INFORMATION IS SHARED WITH US IS NOT TO BE SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC. AND ANYTHING WE DISCUSS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION HAS TO STAY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. ANOTHER ONE THAT IS IMPORTANT, THAT I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY HERE BUT BECKY AND I HAVE EXPERIENCED IS BEING HERE AFTER 11 P.M. MAYBE A FEW MEETINGS WITH YOU, I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT I HAVE. YEAH YOU HAVE. YEAH. WHERE WE'VE BEEN HERE AFTER 11 AS LATE AS 1 A.M. WE HAVE BEEN HERE. AND THIS WAS NOT IMPLEMENTED AT THE TIME.

BUT THIS JUST SAYS IF WE REALIZE IT'S 11 P.M. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO LONGER, THAT AS A COUNCIL, WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE WHETHER TO TABLE THE REST OF THOSE DOCUMENTS OR AGENDA ITEMS TO ANOTHER TIME. PLACE. ONE. MAYOR, POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I THINK WE HAD A MEETING A FEW WEEKS BACK OR A FEW MONTHS BACK, WHERE ALL THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS WERE DONE BY 11:00, BUT THEN EXECUTIVE SESSION DRAGGED US TO ABOUT 1130. IS THAT DOES THIS RULE APPLY ONLY WITH LIKE REGULAR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS, OR DOES IT INCLUDE EXECUTIVE SESSION? I BELIEVE IT INCLUDES EXECUTIVE SESSION. I'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH OUR ATTORNEY. OKAY. YEP. SHE'S SHAKING HER HEAD. IT INCLUDES EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO YES, AT THAT POINT WE COULD HAVE TAKEN A VOTE AND DECIDED WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS ANY MORE. THAT'S A PART OF THAT AGENDA FOR THE EVENING. EVEN ON EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE'D HAVE TO TABLE IT TO ANOTHER TIME. GOT IT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE MOVE ON? ALL RIGHT. ON THE NEXT PAGE IS ITEM D INTERACTION WITH CITY STAFF. AND NUMBER ONE IS OUR CHARTER REQUIREMENT. JUST AS A REMINDER, BECAUSE WE KNOW SOME FOLKS HAVE DONE THINGS IN A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT NO MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL SHALL GIVE ORDERS DIRECTLY TO ANY CITY EMPLOYEE, EXCEPT WHEN EMPOWERED TO DO SO BY AN EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION. AND ALL OF OUR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL SHALL DEAL WITH THE NONELECTIVE OFFICERS, EMPLOYEES AND ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES OF THE CITY SOLELY THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER. OUR CITY MANAGER IS OUR CONDUIT TO STAFF. SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT STAFF REPORTS.

WE WANT, QUESTIONS WE HAVE. ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND NOT REACHING OUT TO STAFF DIRECTLY, REQUESTING INFORMATION FROM THEM. THAT GOES THROUGH OUR CITY MANAGER, ACCORDING TO OUR CHARTER. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? YES, SIR. PLEASE TO THIS CAN I MEAN, A LOT OF TIMES I ASK THE CITY SECRETARY, INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE CITY MANAGER.

SO ANYWAYS, I JUST. ACCORDING TO THIS, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH OUR CITY MANAGER AND HE WILL DIRECT US. BUT CITY MANAGER PARDON? WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE US CLARIFICATION OF HOW YOU WANT US TO DO THAT? THANK YOU SIR. I THINK FOR EFFICIENCIES FOR COUNCIL BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT COMING IN, A LOT A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON THAT I THINK A CAREFUL LINE OF NOT DIRECTING STAFF, BUT ASKING STAFF FOR INFORMATION AND GETTING THAT I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

I ALWAYS TELL COUNCIL AND I TELL STAFF THERE'S A WATCHWORD IF COUNCIL OR STAFF FEELS UNCOMFORTABLE, JUST SAY, HEY, CAN I TALK TO TODD ABOUT THAT? BUT I DO ASK THAT I BE COPIED

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SO, SO HAPPY TO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU BE A FUNNEL. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE MOVE ON? THANK YOU. AND THEN I HAVE THIS. I REALLY DIDN'T FOCUS ON ITEM G, WHICH IS THE COUNCIL LIAISON ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. JUST BECAUSE I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER HERRERA AND COUNCIL MEMBER NADINE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF THEIR REPORT AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BRING BACK TO US ABOUT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THOSE. SO I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME HERE TONIGHT TALKING ABOUT THAT UNTIL WE DECIDE WHAT'S MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT. IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY, THE NEXT PAGE IS OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PARTICIPATION POLICY WITH COUNCIL. THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SAY ON HERE IS THIS WAS THE LAST THIS WAS LAST APPROVED IN 2019. IT IS FAR OUTDATED AND IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. AND SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING FORWARD A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT CAN WORK ON UPDATING THAT POLICY AND BRING THE UPDATES TO COUNCIL, THAT WE CAN VOTE ON WHAT WE WANT TO ORDAIN OURSELVES BY, TO BEHAVE BY AND USE OF. BUT THERE'S NO MENTION, REALLY, OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. THERE'S NO REAL MENTION OF SOME OF THE NEW UPDATED SYSTEMS THAT THE CITY IS USING. SO IN MY OPINION, THIS IS REALLY OUTDATED. THERE ARE STILL GOOD BONES IN IT AND THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE ABIDING BY. I'M SORRY, BUT IT IS A LITTLE OUTDATED. SO ON THE SECOND PAGE, IT'S THE USE OF PERSONAL ACCOUNTS IS THE SECTION I WOULD GO OVER. ONE IS THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AND IT JUST REMINDS US THAT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN A QUORUM OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT PUBLIC BUSINESS, NO MATTER THE FORUM OR THE TIME, CAN CONSTITUTE A MEETING TO WHICH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT APPLIES. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. IF YOU'RE MEETING OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL CHAMBERS OR OUTSIDE OF A MEETING THAT WHEN FOUR OR MORE ARE GATHERED, THAT THAT COULD BE A CONCERN AND AN ISSUE. THIS ALSO TALKS ABOUT USING OUR PERSONAL SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS. AND I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS A QUESTION ABOUT OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT VERSUS WHERE PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND WHAT CAN WE SAY AND WHAT CAN WE NOT SAY. BUT THIS GIVES YOU SOME HELPFUL HINTS, HINTS TO ABIDE BY WHEN YOU'RE USING SOCIAL MEDIA. ONE IS D THAT I HIGHLIGHTED REDIRECT POLITICAL DIALOG REQUEST TO AN ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF COMMUNICATION. I TEND TO TELL PEOPLE TO EMAIL MY CITY ACCOUNT IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT CITY BUSINESS. I DO NOT TRY TO NEGOTIATE THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I DON'T TRY TO REPLY TO COMMENTS AND ADD DATA AND ADD LINKS TO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S WEBSITE. IT GETS A LITTLE A LITTLE STICKY WHEN YOU START DOING THAT. SO I ALWAYS ADVISE PEOPLE EMAIL MY CITY ACCOUNT AND THEN WE CAN SEND OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION THAT WAY. OF COURSE, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO WHAT YOU FEEL IS BEST, BUT THESE ARE SOME GUIDELINES. AS COUNCIL, WE HAVE DECIDED TO ABIDE BY. THE NEXT ONE IS ON RECORDS RETENTION ON PAGE 173.

UNLESS ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SOCIAL MEDIA. ARE WE MOVING AWAY FROM SOCIAL MEDIA TO THE NEXT ITEM OR I WAS YES. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I, I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I DO HAVE A COMMENT. YES, I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED. I HAD ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I HAD MENTIONED SOME OF MY CONCERNS TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY AS WELL.

JUST LIKE THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT I THINK GET US INADVERTENTLY INTO TROUBLE IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL. YEAH. AND I ACTUALLY DID SOME CROSS-REFERENCING ON A LOT OF THESE DOCUMENTS. I FOUND SEVERAL THINGS THAT I THINK NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. OKAY. I

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WE NOMINATE HIM. I'D BE HAPPY TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. HE IS A SUBCOMMITTEE OF ONE. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER NADINE AND COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR HAVE VOLUNTEERED. AND COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU. SORRY IT'S LATE, SPONSELLER. THEY ALL ARE INTERESTED IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE. BUT I WILL SAY, MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T TALK TO ANYBODY ELSE BECAUSE THEN THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE A YES. SO WE MIGHT STICK TO TWO, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WITH OUR SUBCOMMITTEES, BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET TO THREE, IF YOU YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY MORE CONVERSATION. AND WE KIND OF. WHICH IS HOW COUNCIL MEMBER NADINE AND COUNCIL MEMBER HERRERA ARE THE ONLY TWO ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR. COMMITTEE ON COMMITTEES.

THANK YOU. THE COMMITTEE ON COMMITTEES. IT'S LATE. SORRY, THE COMMITTEE ON COMMITTEES, BUT WE'LL PUT THAT TOGETHER AND WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING OUR OWN GUIDELINES WITH THAT. BUT THANK YOU ALL, ALL THREE, FOR VOLUNTEERING TO DO IT. YES, SIR. PLEASE. YEAH.

COMMENT ON WHICH ONE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT'S ON. BUT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE STRUGGLE WITH OR WHERE THERE'S A LINE IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S PUBLIC, WHAT'S CONFIDENTIAL, RIGHT? WHO IS WE STRUGGLE WITH COUNCIL. YOU MEAN JUST IN GENERAL? OKAY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE GET A LOT OF DOCUMENTS GIVEN TO US. WE GET A LOT OF EMAILS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. AND IT'S NOT CLEAR ALWAYS WHAT IS PUBLIC OR NOT.

NOW WE KNOW EVERYTHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT IN THESE MEETINGS, BUT WE DON'T KNOW IF ALL THE HANDOUTS WE GET FOR THE MEETINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY PUT IN THE PACKET, ARE THEY? AND SO I THINK WE NEED A BETTER WAY OF KIND OF SEPARATE SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY THIS IS PRIVATE, THIS IS PUBLIC. SO THAT'S JUST. SO WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO MAKE SURE WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT IT'LL SAY FOR PUBLIC OR FOR PRIVATE ON THE TOP OF IT, IS THAT SOMETHING WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ASK FOR? TODD, THAT WE CAN HAVE THOSE ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO OUR AGENDA, WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC OR PRIVATE. SO WE KNOW FOR SURE WHETHER IT CAN BE SHARED OR NOT. ON THE CAPTIONS. WHEN WE EMAIL IT TO YOU, WE'LL PUT PRIVILEGED. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND SO ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT HAVE THAT PRIVILEGED CAPTION MEANS THAT IT IS IT CAN BE SHARED PUBLICLY. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES THAT MEAN IT'S PART OF THE NDA? IT WOULD BE A PUBLIC RECORD. SO IT'LL BE ANYTHING EMAILED OR TEXTED IS ALL PUBLIC RECORD, PUBLIC RECORD. SO AS WE'RE EMAILING SOMETHING THAT HAS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL ON IT, THEN YOU'LL KNOW THAT THAT WOULD BE PRIVILEGED. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE SUBJECT TO AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. OKAY. DOES THAT ANSWER OKAY. WHAT I WAS THINKING WHAT YOU'RE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE AGENDA PACKET WE GET? WELL, I'M JUST TALKING IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE ALL OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC. WE TALK ABOUT THINGS THE CITY WOULD LIKE US TO MAGNIFY THINGS FROM OUR PLATFORMS AT DIFFERENT TIMES AND OTHER THINGS WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO MAGNIFY. SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS PUBLIC AND NOT? AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IN OUR GOOD READER OR ON OUR THE DOCUMENTS WERE GIVEN, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A CONFIDENTIAL SECTION AND A THINK SO THAT WE CAN WE HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT'S NOT IN THE NON-CONFIDENTIAL. WE COULD FORWARD IT TO SOMEBODY AND SAY, HEY, OKAY, THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND WE DO DO THAT.

SO ANYTHING THAT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR COUNCIL PACKET THAT YOU GET THAT'S ALSO POSTED ON THE WEBSITE IS ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION. WE HAVE OTHER INFORMATION. THERE'S CONTRACTS.

THERE'S OTHER SPECIFIC THINGS THAT HAVE A SECURITY RELATED ISSUE TO THEM. THOSE YOU NOTICE ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PACKET. THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN GOOD READER UNDER A SECURE SESSION.

SO WE DO DISTINGUISH IN THOSE ARE LOCATED IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. GO AHEAD PLEASE. ONE YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST FIGURE THAT ANYTHING THAT'S IN OUR PUBLIC AGENDA, OF COURSE, IS PUBLIC. ANY OF THE DRAFTS OR ANY OF THE PRIVILEGED DOCUMENTS THAT WE GET RIGHT NOW ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION. BUT I WONDER ALSO IF THE INTENT HERE IS, YOU KNOW, ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, OF COURSE, ARE ARE PRIVILEGED, WHETHER THAT'S OF COURSE, WE DON'T TAKE NOTES, WE DON'T TAKE DOCUMENTS. BUT IF FOLKS ARE TAKING MENTAL NOTES AND THEN YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION LATER ABOUT IT, YOU MIGHT NOT INTENTIONALLY KNOW THAT YOU'RE SHARING INFORMATION THAT SHOULDN'T BE SHARED. IS THAT ONE OF THE INTENTS OF THIS? I THINK IT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. WE HAVE TO BE REALLY CLEAR THAT THINGS THAT ARE SHARED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, THOSE CONTRACTS, THINGS THAT WE'RE REVIEWING, THEY'RE GIVEN, WE'RE GIVEN ACCESS TO IT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME LEGAL DECISIONS SOMETIMES THAT IT JUST CAN'T BE SHARED PUBLICLY. SO WE SHOULD ALWAYS GO IN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION SPECIFICALLY WITH THE MINDSET THAT NOTHING IN HERE IS GOING TO BE SHARED PUBLICLY.

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ABSOLUTELY. AND WE BK SEE Y'ALL. SO YOU ALSO CAN REPLY BACK. AND WE KNOW WE'RE NOT VIOLATING ANY QUORUM RELATED ISSUES. YEAH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. THIS IS THE GREAT OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE ALL THE EXPERTS IN THE ROOM THAT CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS IF WE HAVE THEM. SO THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY. I ALSO HIGHLIGHTED UNDER RECORDS RETENTION THAT'S ON PAGE 173 OF 189. JUST KEEP IN MIND WHATEVER YOU ARE POSTING ON YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA THAT IS LISTING YOU AS A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT IT IS SUBJECT TO PUBLIC RECORDS. SO ANY CONTENT, MESSAGES, POSTS, PHOTOGRAPHS, VIDEOS THAT YOU CREATE AND USE ON THAT SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT CAN BE CONSIDERED A RECORD AND MAY BE REQUESTED AT SOME POINT. IF SOMEBODY MAKES A OPEN RECORD REQUEST. SO JUST JUST BE AWARE THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN AND SO GOVERN YOURSELVES ACCORDINGLY. WHAT YOU WHAT YOU POST AND SAY. NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT ON PAGE 178, IT TALKS ABOUT IT AGAIN. AND 178 MOVES INTO OUR CODE OF ETHICS. CLEARLY, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC BECAUSE IT SHOWS UP EVERYWHERE. BUT NUMBER C IS CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION. PUBLIC SERVANTS SHALL NOT DISCLOSE CONFIDENTIAL OR PROPRIETARY INFORMATION. IT GOES OVER THAT AGAIN. E TALKS ABOUT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. I WOULD JUST BE AWARE OF ANY POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST WITH YOU SERVING ON OTHER NONPROFIT BOARDS OR WORK THAT YOU MIGHT DO IN THE COMMUNITY. JUST MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT ANY UNDISCLOSED CONFLICT ON THERE.

AND WE DO HAVE A FORM WE HAVE TO SUBMIT EVERY YEAR THAT ASKS YOU TO LIST ANY CONFLICTS ON THERE, BUT IT IS LISTED IN OUR CODE OF ETHICS FORM. SO JUST BE AWARE THAT IT'S IN THERE. AND THERE WAS ONE THING THAT I MISSED. WHEN WE MAY HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT. LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND IT REAL QUICK. WELL YOU'RE LOOKING. CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION ON, ON THE CODE OF ETHICS. YES. THE THE CURRENT BOARD FOR ETHICS. DO THEY REVIEW THIS DOCUMENT ON. AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME IT WAS REVIEWED. SO IT'S EVERY YEAR. THANK YOU. THIS CODE OF ETHICS WAS LAST UPDATED. YOU CAN SEE THE BOTTOM AND I CAN'T READ IT. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. THEY REVIEWED THEY. EVERY YEAR THEY MEET ONCE A YEAR TO REVIEW. YEAH. THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. AND THEN THEY BRING IF THEY SEE THERE'S CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE, THEY BRING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. THIS PAST YEAR WHEN THEY MET, THEY DID NOT FEEL THAT ANY CHANGES WERE NECESSARY. THANK YOU. SO THE CODE OF ETHICS BOARD WILL REVIEW THIS ANNUALLY. AND IF THEY FEEL THERE ARE CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE, THEY'LL BRING THEM TO OUR ATTENTION.

BUT IT WAS LAST REVIEWED IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR. I'M SORRY. I GOT OLD EYES. OKAY. I'M SORRY.

DECEMBER OF 2025 IS WHEN IT WAS LAST REVIEWED. THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. IT DOES. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I THINK I SKIPPED OVER TO MENTION IS AS IT RELATES TO STAFF. OH, GOSH. AND I BELIEVE IT'S BACK ON A ON OUR GENERAL GUIDELINES. YES. AND I

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AND WE'RE JUST HERE TO SUPPORT. BUT OF COURSE, AS WE FIND CHALLENGES, WE HAVE TO BRING THAT UP. BUT WE NEED TO BRING IT UP IN A RESPECTFUL WAY. WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS CAN I ANSWER FOR ANYBODY OR THAT WE CAN ALL ANSWER? SINCE YOU ALL HAVE ALL THESE EXPERTS IN THE ROOM TONIGHT. OTHERWISE, THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD. NO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS REVIEW, ESPECIALLY AS AN INCOMING NEW COUNCIL MEMBER. JUST KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE OUR GUIDELINES ARE AND EVEN CREATE, YOU KNOW, BETTER GOALPOSTS FOR THE FUTURE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS REVIEW. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. AND I JUST WILL SAY BACK TO HOW A LOT OF THIS CAME TO BE AS A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER IN 21. I REMEMBER SITTING ON THE DAIS AND HEARING COUNCIL MEMBERS YELL AT AT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. I REMEMBER BEING IN MEETINGS WHERE PEOPLE SAID, NOT SO NICE AND UNFRIENDLY THINGS ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBERS OR ABOUT STAFF, AND THAT IS NOT THE TYPE OF COUNCIL THAT WE WANT TO BE. IT DOESN'T HELP OUR CITY MOVE FORWARD AND IT'S NOT PRODUCTIVE. AND SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CHANGES SINCE THEN, AND HAVING THESE POLICIES IN PLACE HELPED MOVE US IN THIS DIRECTION. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING THE TIME TO READ THIS AND WALK THROUGH IT. AND WE DO HAVE SOME UPDATES THAT WE WANT TO BRING BACK AT A LATER TIME TO THIS. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. AND IF YOU THINK OF ANYTHING IN THE MEANTIME, SEND US A EMAIL SO WE CAN UPDATE IT. IF YOU LOOK AT IT. OTHER THAN THAT, THE TIME.

OH YES. I'M SORRY, PRO TEM, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IS THERE A TIMELINE THAT WE NEED TO GET SUGGESTIONS BACK TO YOU OR MODIFICATIONS? AND THEN THE SOCIAL MEDIA COMMITTEE, IS THAT JUST SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE SORT THAT OUT OR. YEAH. SO IF YOU HAVE UPDATES, THEY WOULD NEED TO COME BACK BY JUNE 15TH. SO WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR JULY AND THE COMMITTEE WE HAVE TO BRING BACK TO VOTE ON, I BELIEVE. IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY.

WE'LL HAVE TO BRING IT BACK ON ANOTHER AGENDA TO VOTE ON WHO WILL BE ON THAT AND WHAT THEY'LL BE DOING. AND THAT PROBABLY WILL BE THE JULY MEETING, BECAUSE I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE THE AGENDA SET FOR THE REST OF JUNE. SO, ALL RIGHT, QUICK CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

THE YOU DON'T WANT COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY THAT WILL BE HANDLED BY THE COMMITTEE SEPARATELY. CORRECT? CORRECT. THANK YOU. NOW, SOMEBODY HAS COMMENTS, OF COURSE THEY CAN SEND IT TO THAT COMMITTEE. BUT WHAT WE WANT THE COMMITTEE IS WE HAVE FOUND THAT IT HAS WORKED BEST WHEN A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WORK ON A PROJECT AND THEN BRING US A COMPLETED PROJECT SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW, INSTEAD OF ALL OF US HAVING TO SPEND ALL OF OUR TIME TRYING TO WORK ON ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON. AGAIN, LIKE WE SAID EARLIER, WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPETING PRIORITIES, AND SO WE WANT TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS WE CAN WITH OUR TIME, WHICH IS HOW WE'VE USED THE SUBCOMMITTEES IN THE PAST. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THE TIME IS 751. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCIL. THIS IS NOT A SCHEDULED MEETING. Y'ALL COULD HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF OTHER THINGS TONIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. AND THANK YOU, STAFF, FOR COMING OUT BECAUSE THIS IS NOT SCHEDULED. THANK YOU.

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