[1. Open Meeting.]
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          2026, AND THE TIME IS NOW 6 P.M. AND THIS IS THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL. CITY SECRETARY CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER STEVEN CHANG. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. MICHAEL HERRERA. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. TONY BLAIR. HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. ANNETTE SPONSELLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. ANDREW. NODDING HERE. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM BECKY ROSS HERE. MAYOR NICOLE THOMPSON. PRESENT. QUORUM IS PRESENT IN THE CITY 
          [3. Discuss and provide staff direction on development concepts for two large tracts of land located in the northern areas of the City. Said tracts are the "Friou Tract", a 524.5 acre site generally located north of CR 280 and approximately 7,500 feet west of Bagdad Road ,and the "Sullivan Tract", a 308.5 acre site generally located along the western boundary of Bagdad Road.]
COUNCIL IS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS. ITEM THREE WILL DISCUSS AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION ON DEVELOPMENT CONCEPTS FOR TWO LARGE TRACTS OF LAND LOCATED IN THE NORTHERN AREAS OF THE CITY, SAID TRACTS ARE THE FREEHOLD TRACT, A 524.5 ACRE SITE GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF COUNTY ROAD 280 AND APPROXIMATELY 7500FT WEST OF BAGHDAD ROAD AND THE SULLIVAN TRACK, A 308.5 ACRE SITE GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF BAGHDAD ROAD. CITY MANAGER TODD. PARDON. TAKE IT AWAY. OH. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO 6:00 ON A NICE HOT THURSDAY. SO SO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US THIS EVENING IS A CONCEPT FOR A COUPLE OF LARGER TRACTS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE FAR NORTHERN KIND OF REACHES OF THE CITY. SO IF YOU WERE TO GO UP BAGHDAD ROAD, AS YOU GET TOWARDS COUNTY ROAD 281, JUST SOUTH OF 281. SO IT'S TWO TRACKS THAT COMPRISE ROUGHLY 900 ACRES OR SO. WE NORMALLY CALL THE SULLIVAN TRACT, AND THEN THE FRIO TRACT. THE CITY IS KIND OF AT A CROSSROADS. 
          THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT FOR THE SULLIVAN TRACT, WHICH IS A ONE ACRE LOWER DENSITY RURAL DEVELOPMENT TYPE OF PROJECT. GENIUS IS THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP WHO'S BEEN LOOKING AT DEVELOPING THE SULLIVAN TRACT AND HAS AN INTEREST IN THE TRACT AS WELL, HAD REQUESTED AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT SOME CONCEPTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO DEVELOPING THESE TRACTS IN A MORE URBAN, DENSE MANNER THAN THE ONE ACRE RURAL LOTS. AND SO THIS THIS MEETING TONIGHT IS REALLY TO GET A CHANCE TO HAVE YOU ALL LISTEN TO THAT PRESENTATION, TO THEN TO HAVE SOME DELIBERATION DIRECTION ON WHETHER THIS IS A CONCEPT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO FURTHER. THERE IS NO ACTION. THERE'S NOTHING THAT COUNCIL'S COMMITTING TO TONIGHT. IT'S REALLY KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS AND SAYING, IS THIS A A CONCEPT THAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT OUR NEXT STEPS IN THIS PROCESS, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO EVALUATE FURTHER, WOULD BE TO LOOK AT SERVICEABILITY, PARTICULARLY WATER, WASTEWATER, SERVICEABILITY, AND TO LOOK AT THE OTHER COMPONENTS OF THAT. THERE ARE ELEMENTS RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION AND CIRCULATION THAT WOULD ALSO NEED TO BE EVALUATED THROUGH THIS PROCESS. 
          ULTIMATELY, THE PROJECTS WOULD ARE BOTH CONTEMPLATING MUDS. THEY'D BE IN CITY MUDS THAT WOULD BE ESTABLISHED WITH EACH ONE. THE PURPOSE OF THOSE WOULD BE TO CREATE A FINANCING MECHANISM TO PAY FOR REIMBURSE THE DEVELOPER FOR QUALIFIED EXPENSES, WHICH WOULD GO INTO BASICALLY THE CORE INFRASTRUCTURE WATER, WASTEWATER, DRAINAGE, STREETS AND PARK TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS. AND SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE WHO ARE PREPARED TO WALK YOU THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION THIS EVENING. SO TURN IT OVER. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MARK BAKER. I'M WITH SCC PLANNING. I'M HERE THIS EVENING WITH STEVEN NATHAN GENTRY WITH GENTILES DEVELOPMENTS AND ALSO HERE TONIGHT WITH AMY CHAVEZ AND MICHAEL FISHER WITH PEYTON DAWSON. SO THEY'RE THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT. SO BETWEEN THE THE PLANNING SIDE AND THE ENGINEERING SIDE, WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT SOME IDEAS TO YOU THIS EVENING AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AND HOPEFULLY GET SOME NEXT STEPS OUTLINED. SO TODD HAD WALKED THROUGH SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS. SO I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF SLIDES HERE THAT I WANT TO JUST WALK THROUGH. WE'VE GOT A PRETTY BIG SLIDE DECK, SO I MIGHT GO FAST IF IF I GO TOO FAST, WE CAN GO BACK TO ANY OF THESE SLIDES AND DWELL ON THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          BUT I WANT TO GIVE PLENTY OF TIME AT THE END SO WE CAN HAVE A GOOD DIALOG AND GET YOUR GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS. AND SO LIKE TODD MENTIONED, THIS SLIDE GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT TO THE TRACKS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE SULLIVAN TRACT IS BOUNDED BY BAGDAD ROAD ON THE EAST. FRIO GOES ALL THE WAY TO ROUND MOUNTAIN ROAD ON THE WEST. AND I'VE BROKEN THE PRESENTATION INTO A SERIES OF CATEGORIES. SO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT LAND USE. WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND AMENITIES THAT COME ALONG WITH THIS PROPOSAL, AND ALSO TALK ABOUT THE UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE PROPOSALS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO JUST SHOW IS GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT 
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TO WHAT THE CITY'S FUTURE LAND USE PLAN SHOWS FOR THIS AREA. IT CALLS NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL FOR THE MAJORITY OF SULLIVAN, PORTIONS OF FRIO, PORTIONS OF FRIO ARE ALSO CALLED OUT AS RURAL ON THE CURRENT CITY LAND USE PLAN. AND THEN OF COURSE, ALONG BAGHDAD ROAD, THERE'S A MIXED USE CORRIDOR. THE ZONING IS A DEFAULT TO RURAL IN THE AREA RIGHT NOW. THERE IS ONE PART, ONE PORTION OF SULLIVAN THAT IS CALLED OUT AS LOCAL OFFICE. 
          IT'S ZONED LOCAL LOCAL OFFICE. AND LIKE TODD MENTIONED, THERE IS A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON THE SULLIVAN TRACT RIGHT NOW FOR ACRE LOTS ON SEPTIC. AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE. THERE'S. IT SHOWS AN EXTENSION THROUGH WITT RANCH OF THE LIVE OAK ROAD THAT WOULD CONNECT BAGHDAD ROAD TO FUTURE EXTENSION OF LAKELINE BOULEVARD. AND SO THIS THIS PLAN WAS ENVISIONED DURING THE TIME OF. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES WITH WASTEWATER SERVING THIS PORTION OF TOWN RIGHT NOW OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WELL, WATER CHALLENGES. SO THAT'S KIND OF LED TO THE ACRE LOT RURAL DEVELOPMENT, THAT PATTERN THAT YOU SEE ON THE TRACT RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO YOU THIS EVENING IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THIS. A MORE MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY ALTERNATIVE, DIFFERENT PATTERN OF GROWTH THAN THAN ALL RURAL IN THIS PART OF TOWN. SO WITH THAT ALTERNATIVE COMES THE ABILITY TO EXTEND SOME INFRASTRUCTURE TO THIS AREA TO IMPROVE SOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK IN THE AREA, AND ALSO BRING SOME HIGHER AMENITIES TO THIS PORTION OF TOWN. WE'LL WE'LL VISIT THIS SLIDE A COUPLE TIMES THIS EVENING. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT WE THINK WOULD BE A BENEFIT FOR THIS LARGER QUADRANT OF TOWN IS CREATING A TRANSPORTATION NETWORK THAT LINKS FROM BAGDAD THROUGH THE LAKELINE EXTENSION ALL THE WAY OVER TO ROUND MOUNTAIN, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, THEN ROUND MOUNTAIN CONTINUES UP TO 1869 AND INTERSECTS JUST WEST OF LIBERTY HILL, JUST WEST OF WHERE THE NEW 29 BYPASS EXISTS. SO WE THINK THAT PROVIDES AN EAST WEST CONNECTOR FOR THIS PART OF TOWN THAT WOULD GREATLY BENEFIT THIS, THIS AREA OF DEVELOPMENT, AND ALSO ALLEVIATE THE NEED FOR A CUT THROUGH SITUATION THROUGH WITT RANCH AND AND OUR ADJACENT NEIGHBORS OF THE LARGER LOTS. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'LL REVISIT THIS MORE LATELY LATER. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE THE PINK DASHED LINE REPRESENTS EXTENSION OF LAKELINE BOULEVARD, WHICH BISECTS THESE PROPERTIES AND BORDERS THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF SULLIVAN. THAT'S PLANNED ON THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION PLAN TO EXTEND ALL THE WAY TO 281. ULTIMATELY. FROM A FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT, LIKE TODD MENTIONED, OUR PROPOSAL IS TO DO A MORE MASTER PLANNED, OBVIOUSLY DENSER THAN ACRE LOTS, BUT STILL A SUBURBAN TYPE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY CONCEPT. AND IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THIS EVENING IS THE CREATION OF A MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT, WHICH IS A FINANCING MECHANISM. I THINK YOU GUYS ARE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH. AS YOU LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE COUNTY, YOU SEE A LOT OF MUDS THAT HAVE DEVELOPED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND ARE BEING PROPOSED BEING IN THE THE LAND PLANNING BUSINESS. WHAT I'VE SEEN IS ALL THE TRACKS THAT HAVE A NICE WASTEWATER LINE AND WATER LINE IN FRONT OF THEM, READY, SHOVEL READY FOR DEVELOPMENT. THOSE TRACKS HAVE LONG BEEN GONE. AND SO A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS ARE KIND OF REQUIRING MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND EXTENSIONS, BECAUSE THE PACE OF GROWTH IN CENTRAL TEXAS AND TEXAS IN GENERAL IS KIND OF OUTPACED THE CITY'S ABILITIES TO KIND OF KEEP UP WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. SO DEVELOPMENTS BRING IN MUDS AND PITS AND THOSE TYPES OF FINANCING MECHANISMS SO THAT THEY CAN HELP CITIES EXTEND SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND DEVELOP SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES IN A FASTER MANNER THAN IF THE CITY HAD TO DEVELOP IT THEMSELVES. SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE ARE BOTH TRACKS TOGETHER. THE COLORS BUBBLES REPRESENT DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES. SO WE'RE PROPOSING DIFFERENT LOT SIZES WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO BE A MIX AS OPPOSED TO THIS ENTIRE AREA BEING ACRE LOTS. WE WOULD HAVE A MIX OF LOT SIZES FROM 50 ALL THE WAY UP TO 80 THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. AND YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW DASHED LINE AGAIN IS WOULD BE THE EAST WEST CONNECTOR FROM ROUND MOUNTAIN ALL THE WAY TO BAGDAD. THE LIGHTER COLORS THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP REPRESENT THE LARGEST LOTS. SO WE'RE PROPOSING CREATING TRANSITIONAL USES FROM ADJACENT LARGER LOT NEIGHBORHOODS WITH OUR LARGEST PRODUCT TRANSITIONING INTO MORE DENSE PRODUCT. AS WE GET FURTHER AWAY FROM THOSE LARGE LOTS, I'VE KIND OF ZOOMED IN ON 
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EACH EACH OF THE DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE PROJECT. SO THIS IS THE SULLIVAN COMPONENT. YOU CAN SEE LAKELINE BOULEVARD ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY, BAGDAD ROAD ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY. 
          WE'VE IDENTIFIED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIGHTEST COLOR, YELLOW, THAT WOULD BE THE LARGEST LOTS BORDERING OUR ADJACENT LARGE LOT NEIGHBORHOODS OF WITT RANCH AND GREATWOOD ESTATES. WE'RE ESTIMATING APPROXIMATELY 850 UNITS, SIX AND A HALF ACRES OF COMMERCIAL ALONG BAGDAD ROAD AND IMPLEMENTING PART OF THE LAKELINE BOULEVARD EXTENSION ALONG OUR FRONTAGE. AND AS YOU SEE, WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF GREENBELTS AND OPEN SPACES AND PARKS, WHICH I'LL HIT ON IN A MINUTE AS WELL. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL TREES ON THIS TRACT. AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE TAKEN THAT TREE SURVEY AND TRIED TO ADJUST THE ALIGNMENT OF THE COLLECTOR ROAD, THE LOCATION OF THE AMENITIES, THE LOCATION OF THE PARKS AROUND WHERE WE HAVE GROVES OF THE NICEST TREES. AND SO TRYING TO LOOK HOLISTICALLY AT HOW TO MAXIMIZE THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS AS WELL ON THE SULLIVAN TRACT OR ON THE FRIO TRACK TO THE WEST, THAT'S 524 ACRES, AND YOU'LL SEE A VARIETY OF COLORS THERE AS WELL. AND ON FRIO, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO INTRODUCE IS AN AGE TARGETED ACTIVE ADULT COMPONENT AS WELL. AND SO WITH THAT, THAT COMPONENT THAT EXPANDS TO YET ANOTHER MARKET SEGMENT. SO THE WAY WE'RE VIEWING IT IS IF YOU'VE GOT 50, 60, 70 80S AND AN ACTIVE ADULT COMPONENT, YOU'RE HITTING A WIDER VARIETY OF THE MARKET. SO YOUR DIVERSITY OF HOUSING, HOUSING PRODUCT IS GREATER THAN IF JUST THE ENTIRE AREA WAS JUST ONE ACRE LOTS AS A WHOLE. AND THE ACTIVE ADULT COMPONENT, YOU KNOW, LEANDER IS A VERY FAMILY FRIENDLY CITY. PEOPLE WANT TO BE HERE. I THINK WHAT WE SEE, WE DO A LOT OF WORK IN THAT IN THAT AREA OF DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITIES, WHAT YOU SEE IS GRANDPARENTS WANTING TO MOVE CLOSER TO WHERE THE KIDS ARE AND WHERE THE GRANDKIDS ARE, BUT THEY STILL WANT TO LIVE IN A AMENITY FOCUSED COMMUNITY THAT'S DOESN'T HAVE THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS RACING DOWN THE STREET. AND SO IT COMES WITH SOME BENEFITS OF LESS TRAFFIC, LESS OBVIOUSLY LESS BURDEN ON SCHOOLS. IT COMES WITH A HIGH LEVEL OF VOLUNTEERISM. WHEN YOU BRING IN THAT DEMOGRAPHIC AND YOU HAVE RETAIL BUYERS THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN. SO THAT DIVERSITY OF PRODUCT TYPE, WE THINK WILL BE A MORE BALANCED APPROACH TO THIS QUADRANT OF THE CITY. AND LIKE I MENTIONED, WITH THE MUD, WHAT COMES ALONG WITH WITH THAT IS YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF AMENITY, HIGHER LEVEL OF IMPROVEMENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE ENHANCEMENTS AS WELL. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO HIT ON IS JUST THE PARKS AND TRAIL SYSTEM. WE LOOKED AT THE CITY'S OVERALL TRAIL SYSTEM. IT SHOWS TEN FOOT WALKS COMING UP, THE FUTURE LAKE LINE EXTENSION, AND ALSO UP BAGHDAD ROAD. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE PLAN WITHIN THESE TRACKS, THAT WE TIE INTO THOSE SO THAT THERE'S GOOD CONNECTIVITY FROM A PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE STANDPOINT. WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE CITY HAS A MAP FOR THE PARK SYSTEM THAT SHOWS WHERE THERE ARE DEFICIENCIES IN PARKS IN THE CITY. AND THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT'S IDENTIFIED AS A GAP IN THE PARK SYSTEM. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WITH WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT, STARTS TO FILL IN THAT GAP AND CREATE A LOT OF AMENITIES IN THIS PART OF TOWN AS WELL. SO WHAT YOU SEE ON AN OVERALL HERE, YOU SEE A NETWORK OF GREENBELT TRAIL SYSTEM AND ALSO ROADSIDE TRAIL SYSTEMS THAT ALL TIE BACK INTO THE LAKELINE AND BAGDAD TRAIL SYSTEM. SO WE THINK THE COMBINATION OF THESE TWO WITH SULLIVAN HAVING OVER A MILE AND A HALF OF NATURE TRAILS, 50 ACRES OF PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, MEANDERING WALKS ALONG THE COLLECTOR ROAD, WE CAN REALLY CREATE AN ENHANCED COMMUNITY. AND LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE AN AMENITY CENTER IN PARKLAND THAT WE'VE LOCATED BASED ON WHAT WE SAW WITH EXISTING TREE SURVEYS ON THE PROPERTY, VERY SIMILAR. WE HAVE TWO AMENITY CENTERS PLANNED ON THE FRIO TRACT. AGAIN, WE'VE GOT 100 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE AND TWO MORE MILES OF NATURE TRAILS PLANNED WITH THE THE FRIO COMPONENT. AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A VISUAL OF A REPRESENTATIVE, THIS IS ANOTHER MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY THAT OUR FIRM HAS WORKED ON. JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF SCALE OF WHAT WHAT THE TYPE OF AMENITIES LOOK LIKE, WHERE YOU HAVE POOLS AND CLUBHOUSE BUILDINGS AND PARK SPACES. AND WHILE THE ACTUAL POOL AREAS WOULD BE PRIVATE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THESE MASTER PLANS, WE WOULD ALSO HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED AND BUILT BY THE DEVELOPER, MAINTAINED BY THE BY THE MUD, BUT NON-EXCLUSIVE. SO BASICALLY, THE PUBLIC COULD USE THESE 
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AMENITY AREAS. SO YOU'D HAVE PLAYSCAPE SPORT COURTS, PICNIC PAVILIONS, OUTDOOR GAMING AREAS, DOG PARKS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THAT WOULDN'T BE A BURDEN ON THE CITY'S PARKS DEPARTMENT, BUT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE CITY RESIDENTS AS A WHOLE. AND THEN IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPE AND TREE PRESERVATION, I'VE MENTIONED THESE COLLECTOR ROAD NETWORK THAT WE'RE PROPOSING A LOT OF WHAT COMES WITH THE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY. AS YOU GUYS KNOW, YOU GET A COMPREHENSIVE DESIGN SIGNAGE PACKAGE. SO OUR PLAN WOULD BE TO DO BEAUTIFUL ENTRIES OFF BAGHDAD ROAD IN THE FUTURE LAKELINE EXTENSION, SO THAT THERE'S A SENSE OF ARRIVAL AND THAT CONTINUITY OF THAT SIGNAGE WOULD CARRY THROUGH THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN ALONG THE COLLECTOR ROADS THAT WE'RE PREPARING WOULD BE HIGHLY AMENITIZED LANDSCAPE. BUT OBVIOUSLY WITH OUR FIRM'S PRETTY SENSITIVE TO WATER NEEDS IN THE COUNTY IN GENERAL, IT'S THE NEW GOLD, RIGHT? WE ALL KNOW THAT. AND SO A LOT OF THE TECHNIQUES WE'RE EMPLOYING THESE DAYS ARE A LOT OF XERISCAPE, A LOT MORE DRIP IRRIGATION. WE USE ALL NATIVE DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANT MATERIAL, TRY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TURF AREAS WHICH ARE THE BIGGEST CONSUMERS OF WATER. SO YOU CAN STILL CREATE A VERY ATTRACTIVE LANDSCAPE AND TRY TO MITIGATE THE AMOUNT OF IRRIGATION USE. AND SO THESE ARE JUST REPRESENTATIVE IMAGES OF WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE ALONG THESE EAST WEST COLLECTORS. AND SO WITH THE MUD, WE WOULD BRING IN MASONRY WALLS WITH LANDSCAPE AREAS, MASONRY COLUMNS. SO THERE'S JUST REPRESENTATIVE IMAGES. AND WHERE THOSE WOULD BE LOCATED ALONG THIS EAST WEST COLLECTOR, LONG LAKELINE BOULEVARD. AND THEN WITH FRIO, SAME THING. SO THE RED DOTS KIND OF CONCEPTUAL LOCATIONS FOR COLUMNS, THE YELLOW LINES WHERE MASONRY WALLS WILL BE LOCATED. SO YOU GET HIGHLY AMENITIZED ATTRACTIVE ARTERIAL CORRIDORS. IN ADDITION TO CREATING THIS CIRCULATION NETWORK AND THEN COMING BACK AROUND TO TRANSPORTATION, I JUST WANT TO HIT ON WHAT THIS CURRENT WHAT THE CITY'S CURRENT THOROUGHFARE PLAN SHOWS. IT SHOWS ROUND MOUNTAIN, THAT BLUE LINE YOU SEE THAT DASHED GOING INTO THE FRIO TRACT, YOU SEE LAKELINE BOULEVARD AND KIND OF MAGENTA LINE THIS DASH GOING ALL THE WAY UP FROM FROM HERE AWAY TO 281 AND THEN LIVE OAK ROAD, CUTTING ACROSS THROUGH WITT RANCH ACROSS TO LAKELINE. AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE COUNTY'S THOROUGHFARE MAP JUST FOR COMPARISON. THEY ALSO SHOW A LINE GOING THROUGH WITT RANCH OVER TO FUTURE LAKELINE, AND THEY SHOW A SLIGHT REALIGNMENT OF 281 ON THE NORTH TO TAKE ONE OF THE BINS OUT OF IT. I CAN TELL YOU FROM DOING WORK ALL OVER THE COUNTY, THERE'S. 
          THERE'S ONE OF THESE ORANGE LINES ON EVERY PIECE OF LAND THAT I'VE LOOKED AT FOR YEARS. 
          SO IT'S. THE COUNTY IS FLEXIBLE ON ALIGNMENTS AS LONG AS IT GETS IMPLEMENTED IN SOME FORM OR FASHION. SO. BUT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT CONTRADICTED WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING IN TERMS OF CREATING A NEW EAST WEST FOR THIS QUADRANT FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER. AND SO AGAIN, BACK TO THIS SLIDE. YOU SEE, THAT YELLOW DASHED LINE IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WOULD GIVE KIND OF THIS EAST WEST LOOP THAT THEN LOOPS ALL THE WAY UP, LIKE I SAID TO 1869, HAS A NORTH SOUTH COMING OUT OF FRIO THAT WOULD CONNECT DOWN TO 280 AND THEN WOULD IMPLEMENT A PORTION OF THE LAKELINE BOULEVARD EXTENSION FROM BASICALLY 280 THROUGH TO THE NORTHERN END OF THE SULLIVAN TRACT. SO WITH THAT SAID, I HOPE I DIDN'T TAKE TOO MUCH TIME. I WANT TO PASS THE BATON FOR A SECOND TO MICHAEL FISHER WITH PAPE DOSS, AND TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AND POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS. SO, MIKE, COULD YOU. THANKS, MARK. GOOD EVENING. MIKE FISHER WITH PAPE DAWSON. WE'RE CIVIL ENGINEERS ON THE PROJECT. AND SO I'LL JUST STEP THROUGH KIND OF HIGH LEVEL UTILITY SUMMARY NEEDS FOR THE PROJECT. WITH THE NEW DENSITY PROPOSED. AND THEN WALK THROUGH THAT REAL HIGH LEVEL, JUST WATER AND WASTEWATER WITH YOU GUYS. SO THIS FIRST SLIDE HERE IS THE CITY'S CIP PROJECT MAP FOR WATER. THE THE PROJECT IS HIGHLIGHTED UP IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER. YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S LABELED FRIO AND SULLIVAN TRACK. AS WE ZOOM INTO THAT MAP. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE CIP PLAN, WE PROVIDED A SUMMARY TABLE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT THERE THAT SHOWS THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SERVE THE TWO PARCELS. AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, THERE IS A NORTHWEST WATER LINE IN THE CIP PLAN THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE SIMILARLY. SIMILARLY, THAT MARK HAD MENTIONED ON TRANSPORTATION, KIND OF MOVING THAT INTO THE PROJECT, THAT WOULD THEN CREATE THAT WATER LINE LOOP THAT'S IN THE CIP PLAN. AND THEN THE 
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ADDITIONAL FRIO TRACK THERE WOULD REQUIRE THAT EXTENSION AND CIP IMPROVEMENTS FOR ITEMS 14 THERE, AND TWO. AND SO THAT GRAND TOTAL ON WATER IS ABOUT $10 MILLION OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THIS PROJECT. THEN, MOVING ON TO WASTEWATER, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION REAL QUICK? YES. YOU SAID 10 MILLION OF IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED FOR THE PROJECT, CORRECT. 
          WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE DONE IF IT JUST STAYED THE WAY IT'S ZONED RIGHT NOW? THERE WOULD BE SMALLER LINES NEEDED FOR JUST THE ACRE LOTS. AND THEN THIS NORTHWEST WATER LINE THAT'S CURRENTLY LOCATED ON 281 WOULDN'T WOULDN'T BE NEEDED BY THE CURRENT SULLIVAN TRACT. SO DENSITY. SO AS WE MOVE THIS DENSITY UP, WE FEEL LIKE WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE THIS LARGER LINE. AND THEN ALSO THAT ADDITIONAL LOOPING REQUIREMENT. 
          SO THAT WOULD THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF ADVANCED THAT NORTHWEST WATER LINE INTO THIS PROPOSAL. 
          SO TO SUPPORT THE DENSITY, YOU WOULD NEED MORE INFRASTRUCTURE DONE. BUT WHAT IS THE TOTAL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE YOU WOULD DO? IF IT REMAINS HOW IT IS? I BELIEVE IT WOULD JUST BE AS FAR AS THE CIP PLAN, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY CIP IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED. TO MY KNOWLEDGE. IT WOULD JUST BE INTERNAL KIND OF DEVELOPMENT TYPE LINES, LIKE AN EIGHT INCH PIPE LINE. OKAY, THEN MOVING ON TO WASTEWATER AGAIN, THIS IS THE CITY'S OVERALL WASTEWATER CIP PLAN MAP. AGAIN, WE'RE IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER THERE, THE NORTHWEST PART OF THE CITY. AND SO I'LL ZOOM IN TO THAT QUADRANT. SO AS WE STEP THROUGH THIS. YOU CAN SEE THE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED FOR THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS LISTED AT THE BOTTOM. AND SO WITH OUR PROJECT BOUNDARY, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADVANCE THE NORTH BAGHDAD ROAD LIFT STATION AND MOVE THAT INTERNAL TO THE PROJECT. WE FEEL LIKE WE COULD ALSO SERVICE THE SAME AREAS THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE CIP PLAN. 
          WITH THIS NEW LOCATION, IT MAY HAVE TO BE DEEPER TO TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, BUT WE FEEL LIKE THAT IS AN OPTION. THE OTHER ITEM THAT WAS INCLUDED THAT. THAT WE PROPOSE HERE IS A IN GREEN IS A NEW FORCE MAIN ALIGNMENT. SO THE CURRENT PLAN HAS THE FORCE MAIN PUMPING DOWN BAGHDAD ROAD. THE ISSUE THERE IS THAT KIND OF DRAINED INTO SEVERAL OTHER LIFT STATIONS THAT NEED TO EITHER BE TAKEN OFFLINE OR IMPROVED IN THE FUTURE. SO WITH ADDING THIS FRIO TRACT, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR THE SULLIVAN TRACT TO TIE INTO THAT CIP PLAN THAT'S NEEDED FOR THIS, THE FRIO TRACT. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS FOR THAT LIFT STATION TO TEMPORARILY OR PERMANENTLY, DEPENDING ON THE UTILITY STUDY THAT WOULD BE PERFORMED TO ALLOW THAT SULLIVAN TRACT TO ADVANCE QUICKER THAN THE NEEDS OF HAVING THESE DOWNSTREAM LIFT STATION IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED. IF WE WENT DOWN THE BAGHDAD ROUTE. SO ON THE SULLIVAN TRACT OR SORRY, ON THE FRIO TRACK, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL LIFT STATION NEEDED FOR THAT. THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE CIP PLAN AS WELL. THE ADJUSTMENT THERE THAT YOU'RE SEEING IS JUST A SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT ON SEWER SHED THAT WE WOULD PICK UP IN EITHER ONE. SO KIND OF BOTH THOSE LIFT STATIONS SERVE THIS, THIS CORNER OF THE CITY, THERE WOULD BE A FORCE MAIN IN THAT AS WELL. AND THEN THE GRAVITY LINES AS WE LISTED SHOWN BELOW, THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO BE INSTALLED TO TIE IN TO THE STUB OUTS THAT ARE PROVIDED CURRENTLY OVER BY DIVINE LAKE. AND SO IF YOU ADD UP THESE IMPROVEMENTS ON WASTEWATER DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, WE'RE LOOKING AT AROUND 28, $29 MILLION FOR THOSE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS. AGAIN, THAT ALL FIT INSIDE THE THE CITY'S CIP PLAN. AND THEN THAT WAS THE SUMMARY ON WATER AND WASTEWATER. 
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AND WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SLIDES, I THINK, ON THE FINANCIAL SUMMARY TO GO THROUGH WITH MARK. 
          BUT I COULD ANSWER QUESTIONS IF UNLESS YOU WANT TO JUST ROLL TO THE FINANCIAL SUMMARY AND THEN WE CAN GET QUESTIONS AT THE END. 
          SO WE'VE TALKED A LOT SO FAR. SO I'LL WRAP UP REAL QUICK SO WE CAN GET INTO SOME DIALOG. 
          LIKE MIKE MENTIONED THERE, THERE'S A, WHAT WE THINK IS A COMPELLING FINANCIAL ASPECT TO THIS IN THE TAXABLE VALUE THAT'S CREATED IN THE TWO ALTERNATIVES. SO WITH THE WITH THE PROPOSED PLAN THAT WE'VE PRESENTED TO YOU THIS EVENING, THERE'S $1.3 BILLION IN TAXABLE VALUE THAT'S CREATED. AND WITHIN WITH THE MUD, DEPENDING ON THE TAX RATE, WE'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT 90 TO $100 MILLION WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS ADDED, WHICH YOU CAN SEE A QUICK SUMMARY THERE 25 MILLION IN ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, 30 MILLION WASTEWATER, 11 MILLION IN WATER, 20 MILLION IN DRAINAGE AND 4 MILLION IN PARKS AND TRAILS SYSTEM. SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT THE MUD ALLOWS TO BE FUNDED THAT OTHERWISE WOULD NOT HAPPEN. SO WE VIEW THAT AS A BENEFIT. BUT WE ALSO KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR THOUGHTS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO HEAR. AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY KIND OF VOTE THIS EVENING. THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF WORK THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO REFINING THIS DETAIL AND ENGINEERING THIS. I CAN TELL YOU THAT STEPHEN AND NATHAN WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK AND NOT SPEND THE NEXT SIX MONTHS INVESTING A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY TO THEN COME TO YOU AND THEN GO, WELL, WE REALLY DON'T WANT WE DON'T REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US. AND SO WE'RE HOPING WE CAN GET ENOUGH FEEDBACK THAT WE EITHER CAN PROCEED WITH WORKING WITH STAFF AND WITH TODD TO TRY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND DEVELOP THE THE STUDIES THAT YOU NEED TO SEE TO GIVE YOU A PEACE OF MIND. AND SO HOPEFULLY THAT LAYS THE TRACKS FOR. JUST ASK US DIRECT QUESTIONS AS YOU CAN. AND SO WE CAN LEAVE WITH AS MUCH FEEDBACK. AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOT SHOWN YOU TONIGHT THAT YOU WANT TO SEE, WE'RE HAPPY TO GO BACK AND, AND WORK ON THAT AND BRING SOMETHING BACK TO YOU TO PRESENT EITHER ANOTHER WORKSHOP OR WHATEVER FORMAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR THOUGHTS. AND I THINK, TODD, MAYBE IF THERE'S ANYTHING I MISSED ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE, YOU WANT TO HIT, MAYBE YOU COULD KIND OF WRAP THAT, WRAP THAT UP. YEAH, I CAN, SO THANK YOU, MR. BAKER. SO AT YOUR PLACES WAS A QUICK LITTLE SCHEDULE. THIS IS REALLY KIND OF MORE OF A BACK OF THE NAPKIN KIND OF REALLY ROUGH, 600 ZERO FOOT VIEW OF, OF SOME, SOME INITIAL THOUGHTS AND I GUESS SOME KIND OF QUICK COMPARATORS TO KIND OF HOW THESE VALUATIONS KIND OF STACK UP TO LEANDER TODAY. SO THE SCENARIO ONE IS REALLY THE, THE, WHAT WOULD MATCH WITH THE CURRENT COMP PLAN AND THE CURRENT ZONING, WHICH IS THE ONE ACRE RURAL SUBDIVISION, THE SCENARIO TWO WOULD BE THE DENSITY LEVELS THAT WERE DISCUSSED JUST A LITTLE BIT AGO AS A CONCEPT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY RIGHT NOW AND YOU LOOK AT OUR ONE ACRE LOT SUBDIVISIONS OF THESE LIKE BONNET, TREVISO, WITT RANCH, LEANDER STATES, THOSE LOOKING AROUND, IF YOU LOOK AT KIND OF THE LOWER VALUE LOTS THAT ARE THERE IN THOSE SUBDIVISIONS, IT REALLY IS KIND OF LOOKING AT THE BONNET KIND OF AREA. SO IF YOU KIND OF ANTICIPATE THOSE ONE ACRE LOTS BEING IN THAT RANGE, WHICH I THINK IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IN LEANDER RANCH ESTATES AS WELL, IT'S AROUND $815,000 PER LOT, WHICH IS ON THE AVE. AND SO THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL TAX LEVY BETWEEN BOTH THE SOLVENT AND THE FRIO TRACTS, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE THE SULLIVAN TRACT IS THE SMALLER UNIT COUNT. IT'S GOT A LITTLE BIT SMALLER ACREAGE, AND THEN THE LARGER ONE WOULD BE THE FRIO LAND USE. SO YOU SEE AN ANNUAL LEVY AT THEIR CURRENT TAX RATE. AND AGAIN THAT'S MONINS AT 1.7. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCENARIO TWO, WHICH IS THE DENSITY COMPONENTS. AND AGAIN THE 850 UNITS AND THE 1400 REFLECTING WHAT WE HAD REPORTED, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A $5.5 MILLION TOTAL LEVY THAT WOULD COME OUT OF JUST THOSE PROJECTS. OUR COST OF SERVICES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRAFT BUDGET THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH FOR 2027, IS ROUGHLY ABOUT $2,200 PER CAPITA IN TERMS OF OR PER HOUSEHOLD, IN TERMS OF BUDGET COSTS ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE. SO AGAIN, IF YOU DO A QUICK LOOK AT THE SCENARIOS, YOU SEE 1.2 MILLION COST OF SERVICES FOR SCENARIO ONE. IN THIS SCENARIO TWO 
          [00:30:04]
POPULATION PROJECTION. LOOKING AT ABOUT 2.8 PERSONS PER SINGLE FAMILY UNIT GIVES YOU AGAIN THESE POPULATION FIGURES THAT YOU SEE. NEXT, OUR SALES TAX MODEL ANTICIPATES FOR NEXT YEAR A PER CAPITA SALES TAX GENERATION NUMBER OF $141 PER CAPITA. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT SALES TAX FIGURE ON THE SCENARIOS. FRANCHISE FEES ARE COMING IN ABOUT $55 PER CAPITA. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT GENERAL FUND REVENUE, IF YOU TAKE ALL THOSE COMPONENTS, YOU GOT BETWEEN 2 AND 6.7 MILLION GENERAL FUND COSTS BETWEEN 1.2 AND 4, ALMOST 5 MILLION. SO YOU SEE IN THAT REVENUE OVER COST SCENARIO, ONE IS ABOUT 804,000. IN SCENARIO TWO IS ABOUT 1.8 MILLION. NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IS, AGAIN, THAT'S LOOKING AT THE FULL 417282 TAX RATE. SO THE PORTION WE'D HAVE TO KIND OF PULL OUT AND DO SOME MORE WORK ALONG THOSE LINES TO LOOK AT THAT. SO THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS WATER DEMAND. SO UNDER SCENARIO ONE WE'RE CURRENTLY AVERAGING PROBABLY ABOUT 10,000 GALLONS PER SINGLE FAMILY LOT IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S REALLY PRETTY COMMON THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES WE HAVE. AND PART OF THAT IS THAT WE DON'T ALLOW THE ONE ACRE LOTS TO REALLY IRRIGATE. YOU DO THE FRONT YARD AND KIND OF AROUND, BUT NOT THE FULL PROPERTY. SO IT KIND OF WASHES OUT, NO PUN INTENDED. SO SCENARIO ONE WOULD BE ABOUT 202 ADDITIONAL ACRE FEET OF WATER PER YEAR. SCENARIO TWO ABOUT 829 WE'RE USING ABOUT 15000 ACRE FEET A YEAR RIGHT NOW. SO THAT REPRESENTS EITHER A 1% OR 6% INCREASE IN WATER VOLUME NEEDED TO SERVE THESE PROJECTS. 
          AND THEN GOING DOWN TO THE WATER AND WASTEWATER REVENUE SIDE. SO SCENARIO ONE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE WASTEWATER WE SHOW ZERO BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ON SEPTIC IN SCENARIO TWO IS, IS THE OTHER COMPONENT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AS I'VE KIND OF THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND WE'VE MET AND TALKED ABOUT THIS IS WE'RE ON THE FRINGE, THE AREA OF THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW DEVELOPING IN THE ONE ACRE LOT SCENARIOS. THERE'S A GROWING NEED FOR CIRCULATION AND ACCESS THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, THAT TAKES FEES AND REVENUES TO DO THAT. IF WE GO, YOU KNOW, THE LOWER THE DENSITY, WE HAVE LOWER DEMAND, BUT THERE'S ALSO LESS REVENUE THAT COMES IN TO HELP ADDRESS THOSE THINGS. AND SO WE WIND UP TRYING TO WORK IN, THROUGH AND IN CREATING MORE DISCONTINUOUS ROUTING SYSTEMS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CIRCULATE THINGS AS WE KIND OF WORK THROUGH THOSE SCENARIOS. SO THE HIGHER DENSITY, THE MORE REVENUE THAT COMES IN, THE MORE OPPORTUNITY THERE IS THEN TO MAKE A MORE SEQUENTIAL LINK THROUGH THOSE AREAS. ONE OF THE THINGS ON OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, WE DON'T SHOW AS A ROADWAY THOROUGHFARE COMING THROUGH SOUTH OF 21 AND NORTH OF 280, THAT PROVIDES FOR THAT ADDITIONAL THROUGH THOSE AREAS. THE OTHER THING THAT IS KIND OF EVOLVING IS THE FACT THAT THAT NORTHERN TIER OF THE CITY ISN'T IT'S THE END FOR US, BUT IT'S NOT THE END FOR DEVELOPMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD 281, THERE'S ALREADY A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT'S COMING IN THAT'S GOING TO BE DENSE, MORE DENSE. IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A OF AN URBAN PROJECT. AND BECAUSE THEY THEY'RE IN LEANDERS WATER. CCN THEY WERE IN LIBERTY HILLS WASTEWATER. CCN AND THEY'VE GOTTEN THEMSELVES OUT OF THE THE LIBERTY HILL CCN BECAUSE THERE IS NO WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THE PLAN IS PACKAGED PLANTS. SO THERE IS A CONCERN AND A THOUGHT ABOUT. 
          THERE'S URBANIZATION OF THINGS HAPPENING NORTH OF US. AND SO LOOKING AT, AT, AT STRATEGIES AND NEEDS TO CREATE LINKAGES THAT DON'T JUST SERVE JUST RIGHT HERE, BUT ALSO ABOVE US, THAT'S IMPACTING US THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT. SO THE OTHER THINGS THAT THAT WE'VE MENTIONED, I'VE BEEN, I GUESS, PRETTY OVERLY BLUNT ABOUT IS WHAT IS THE VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY IF THIS, THIS WERE TO HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS WOULD BE, OKAY, WE'VE GOT A LAND TRANSITION, WE'VE GOT NICE LOTS DEVELOPED LOWER DENSITY OR BEAUTIFUL PLACES. AND IF WE TRANSITION UP, HOW DOES THAT TRANSITION WORK? AND THEN THE OTHER COMPONENT WOULD BE REALLY WHAT HAPPENS ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE AND THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION SIDE. AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT REALLY WOULD NEED SOME STUDY. BUT ONE OF THE VALUE COMPONENTS IS CREATING THOSE GREENBELT LINKAGES AND ADDRESSING DRAINAGE IN AN ORGANIZED WAY, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT THOSE ROADWAY CONNECTIONS. WE DESPERATELY NEED TO GET ADDITIONAL CIRCULATION THROUGH THAT AREA. SO THERE'S REALLY NOT A RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER HERE. THIS IS REALLY KIND OF COUNCIL DISCRETION IN TERMS OF WHERE YOU WANT TO GO, HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS MOVING FORWARD. SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE QUIET AND KEEP TALKING. LET Y'ALL KNOW. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND. YOU'VE GONE BACK AND THOROUGHLY ANSWERED 
          [00:35:01]
THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT I'VE HAD. MY QUESTION REALLY WAS AROUND TRAFFIC AND HOW IS WHAT IS THAT IMPACT GOING TO BE IN THAT AREA? IF WE GO FROM ONE ACRE LOTS TO HIGHER DENSITY, AND NOW WE'RE DROPPING OFF ALL OF THESE PEOPLE IN THIS AREA THAT WE ALREADY KNOW, THE ROADS NEED TO BE IMPROVED OVER THERE. THE LAKE LINE EXTENSION IS NOT DONE YET. WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO SOME REALIGNMENT ON 280. LIKE WHAT IS THE REAL IMPACT TO HAVING MORE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA, BUT ALSO WHAT IS THE IMPACT TO WATER WHEN WE BRING ALL OF THESE PEOPLE INTO OUR NETWORK? WHAT IS THE REAL IMPACT THERE? SO THANK YOU FOR WALKING THROUGH THAT AND THANK YOU. THE PROJECT LOOKS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. THE TRANSITION LINE, WHEN I SAW IT BEFORE, THERE WAS HIGHER DENSITY CONNECTED TO GREATWOOD AND WITH WITH RANCH, I BELIEVE. AND NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE THE LARGER LOTS CONNECTED, WHICH MADE MORE SENSE TO ME AS A TRANSITION FROM THOSE ONE ACRE LOTS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT. 
          BUT I WILL START NOW WITH PRO TEM AND THEN WE'LL WORK OUR WAY BACK THIS WAY. IF Y'ALL HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT YOU WANT ANSWERED ABOUT THE PROJECT, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AT ALL. MIGHT COME BACK. OKAY, PLEASE. FIVE NOTHING REAL SPECIFIC. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, I DID HAVE SOME NOTES. I CAN'T FIND THEM, SO BUT ONE THING THAT THAT THAT DID, I THINK YOU SAID LIKE THERE WAS TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS THAT YOU, THAT YOU CITED ON, ON THE MUD ITSELF, LIKE 50 AND 78, JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. AND THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP BETWEEN L, A, S, D AND THEN LIBERTY HILL. AND THEN SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND IT'S THROUGH YOUR TRACKS. SO YOU HAVE POTENTIALLY MULTIPLE CITIZENS THAT COULD LITERALLY BE LIVING ACROSS THE STREET AND THEN BE PAYING DIFFERENT RATES. 
          AND SO JUST, I, AGAIN, I DON'T NEED A WHOLE LOT OF DETAIL ON THAT RIGHT NOW. OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS, THIS IS EARLY, BUT THAT WAS ONE AREA THAT I WAS LIKE, WE, I WANT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT A LITTLE BIT CLEANER HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT AND CITY MANAGER PARDON. AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT AND YOU SHOWED ME THE LINE FOR WHICH PART WAS LIBERTY HILL ISD AND WHICH ONE WAS LEANDER ISD. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS SPLIT. RIGHT. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO TRAVIS AND AND WILCO AND WILCO. SO JUST AGAIN, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT AND SEE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE PLANNING AND HOW YOU'RE THINKING THAT THROUGH. 
          YEAH, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A PINK LINE ON THIS OVERALL MAP THAT THE SULLIVAN TRACT IS IN THE LIBERTY HILL ISD, AND THEN THE LINE KIND OF HITS AND HITS AN ANGLE AND KIND OF FOLLOWS THAT WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TRAVIS COUNTY LINE. SO THERE'S THE NORTHERN PORTION OF FRIO IS IN LIBERTY HILL ISD, AND THEN THE SOUTHERN PART WOULD BE IN THE LEANDER ISD. AND JUST AGAIN, ALL OF THESE WOULD HAVE A LEANDER CITY ADDRESS. CORRECT. IT'S ALL CITY LIMITS, ALL. SO IT'S ALL GOING TO BE OKAY. THAT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST WHERE SOME OF MY CONCERNS COME FROM BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE. THERE'S JUST GOING TO BE DIFFERENCES THERE. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF TALK THAT THROUGH PLACE FOR. SO THIS IS AN INCREASE OF 1186 UNITS, CORRECT? 1186 FROM THE ORIGINAL NUMBER OF UNITS. SULLIVAN. THE ACRE LOTS. THERE'S 214. RIGHT. AND THEN THE PROPOSED IS LIKE 850. SO THAT'S 636. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS 850. AND IT'S GOING UP TO 1400, WHICH IS ANOTHER 550 LOTS. WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A PLAN, I DON'T THINK, ON FRIO BEFORE. THERE'S NOT AN ACRE LOT PLAN OR ANYTHING ON IT TODAY. RIGHT. 
          YEAH. SO I CAN MAYBE HELP ADDRESS THAT. SO, SO RIGHT. SO IN LOOKING AT THIS HAD LOOKED AT KIND OF WHAT THE AVERAGE KIND OF DENSITY YIELD IS ON ONE ACRE LOT. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE ONE ACRE LOT ESTIMATE CAME FROM ON THIS. SO IT'S LOOKING AT THAT .6.6, 0.6 7DUA. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER WOULD BE KIND OF BASED ON THE, THE 1400 PER UNIT COUNT THERE. SO THAT IS THAT DELTA. YEAH. BUT FOR THE SULLIVAN LINE IT WOULD STILL BE AN ADDITIONAL 636. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN ADDITIONAL FOR AN ADDITIONAL TO 550 ON THE SECONDARY. YEAH THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. YEAH. SO THAT'S 1186 ADDITIONAL UNITS. 
          AND I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PRESENTATION. I ABSOLUTELY DO. I LOVE A LOT OF IT, BUT I THINK THAT WE ARE TRYING TO OFFSET THE COST OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE PERIL OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE KEEP SAYING THEY WANT LESS DENSITY. AND THEN WE KIND OF FIND AN EXCUSE TO MAKE IT MORE DENSE AND SAY, WELL, THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US THIS, SO WE'RE GOING TO LET THEM DO 
          [00:40:02]
IT. AND, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS THE SOLUTION TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE. I ALSO WORRY ABOUT THE ROADS WHILE YOU GUYS IMPROVE SOME OF THE ROADS, AS WE'VE SEEN RECENTLY, QUITE A LOT, THAT WHAT THE DEVELOPER IMPROVES JUST OUTSIDE OF THERE IS STILL CHAOS AND A MESS AND TRAFFIC RIDDEN, AND THERE'S NO PLAN FOR THAT PRIOR TO THAT DEVELOPMENT COMING IN. SO WE'RE ALWAYS FIVE STEPS BEHIND. AND AS FAR AS ROAD AND TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO THOSE ARE KIND OF MY THOUGHTS. THANK YOU. CAN YOU GO TO THE SLIDE BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE FOR Y'ALL JUST TO CLARIFY OR AT LEAST ADDRESS WHAT THE IMPACT, IF ANY, IS OF BECAUSE THIS IS NOT CONTINUOUS LAND. Y'ALL ARE NOT CONNECTED THESE TRACKS. AND THERE IS A SPACE IN BETWEEN THAT I GUESS YOU GUYS DON'T OWN OR THE OWNERSHIP IS DIFFERENT. YEAH, THERE IS A TRACK YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS LEANDER ESTATES. YOU SEE JUST TO THE NORTH OF THAT TRACK THERE'S A WELL, NOT REALLY ON THAT SLIDE BECAUSE IT'S SO SMALL. I CAN'T SEE IT, BUT I KNOW IT'S YOU CAN SEE IT BETTER ON SOME OF YOUR OTHER COLOR CODED. LET ME SEE HERE. MAPS. 
          MAYBE THIS ONE WHERE THE YELLOW DASHED LINE GOES THROUGH THE AERIAL IN THE MIDDLE. YEP. SO THAT'S A DEVELOPMENT. I THINK IT'S LISTED AS TFR LLC OR SOMETHING OF THAT EFFECT. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NATHAN AND STEVEN ARE TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO CONTACT THAT OWNER TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE HOW TO GET THAT ROAD CONNECTION THROUGH. OKAY. SO THAT IS, THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. THANKS, LARRY. I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I THINK I'M STILL KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THE INFORMATION, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, THE CORRELATION WITH KIND OF SOME OF OUR CIP PLAN IMPROVEMENTS WAS THE DIRECTION OF MOVING FROM ONE ACRE LOTS TO A MORE DENSE AREA, DENSE POPULATION OR DENSE DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT KIND OF THE THINKING BEHIND THE CHANGE? WELL, I THINK I THINK FOLKS HAVE SEEN THAT A LOT OF THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON IN THE LAST FEW YEARS ARE NOW FEELING MORE COMFORTABLE THAT THOSE ARE WRAPPING UP. AND SO THERE'S A LITTLE MORE OPTIMISM THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY TO TO SERVE THE AREA. LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, HAVING A MORE DIVERSE PRODUCT OFFERING HELPS A DEVELOPMENT WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE HITTING MORE MARKET SEGMENTS THAN JUST ONE ACRE LOT BUYER. AND WE KIND OF TODD KIND OF HIT ON IT. WE KIND OF VIEW THIS CORRIDOR OF BAGDAD ROAD AND LAKELINE EXTENSION AS BEING A PRETTY ATTRACTIVE AREA FOR FOLKS AS, AS LEANDER GROWS TO THE NORTH AND LIBERTY HILL GROWS TO THE SOUTH, WE JUST KIND OF VIEW THIS AS MAYBE NOT AS RURAL AS ONCE THOUGHT. AND SO THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS THAT COME ALONG WITH MORE DENSITY. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DENSITY IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, I DON'T KNOW IF I MENTIONED ON SULLIVAN AND FRIO, THE OVERALL DENSITY IS AROUND TWO AND A HALF PER ACRE ON THE GROSS ON WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WHICH IS QUITE A BIT LOWER THAN WHAT WE'RE TYPICALLY SEEING ACROSS THE COUNTY, WITH A LOT SMALLER LOTS. AND WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT LARGER LOTS HERE. AND A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES I'M WORKING ON, WHERE WE DO HAVE 70 AND 80 FOOT LOTS THERE, MILLION DOLLAR PLUS HOMES ON THOSE 70 AND 80 ACRE AND 80 FOOT LOTS, SO THAT IT GIVES SOME BENEFITS FROM SOME TAXABLE VALUE TO THE CITY AND ALLOW SOME OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET EXTENDED, OBVIOUSLY, THROUGH THIS MUD, LIKE I MENTIONED. SO IT ALLOWS SOME TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME PROJECTS THAT WE THINK BENEFIT THE CITY, ALSO BENEFIT THE DEVELOPER FOR SURE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY THINGS THAT WOULD BE A WIN WIN FOR BOTH. AND STILL, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THIS QUADRANT OF TOWN IN A DIFFERENT MANNER THAN JUST ONE HOMOGENEOUS PRODUCT TYPE. WELL, I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF TO TRY TO INCORPORATE SOME GUIDANCE AROUND WHAT IS BEST OR BENEFICIAL FOR OUR CITY. I THINK AS WE'RE MAKING THIS TRANSITION, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE LOOKING INTO SOME OF THE BRAND AGENCY THAT CHANGES THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON MAKING, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE LINE OF SIGHT AND DIRECTIVE FROM, YOU KNOW, WHERE, YOU KNOW, OUR CITIZENS WANT TO GO IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEN ALSO IT'S A BENEFIT TO US FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT WHERE THERE IS A HUGE EXPENSE AND WE NEED TO KIND OF LOOK AT HOW WE CAN, YOU KNOW, COEXIST WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS AT HAND. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THOSE CONCERNS. YOU'VE KIND OF SEEN CITIES 
          [00:45:03]
ACROSS OUR AREA HAVE IMPLEMENTED THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES AS WELL. SO THOSE THOSE ARE IMPLEMENTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN A DEVELOPMENT COMES IN AND YOU HAVE ALL THESE SUPPORTING ROADS AROUND IT? YEAH, THAT IS PART OF WHAT THOSE IMPACT FEES ARE INTENDED TO COVER AS WELL. AND THEN ONE THING I FAILED TO MENTION, I BELIEVE, IS JUST THE TIMING. THIS IS A PRETTY BIG DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS A LOT OF UNITS, RIGHT. AND SO IT'S KIND OF SCARY TO LOOK AT AT ONCE. 
          BUT THIS IS A TEN YEAR PROJECT. AND THE FIRST, WITH THE COURSE OF WHAT WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR TO PLAN THIS DEVELOPMENT, DESIGN IT, ENGINEER IT, BUILD IT. THE FIRST UNITS WE'RE TALKING THREE YEARS FROM NOW. AND SO YOU KIND OF HAVE TO PUT ON YOUR YOUR LONG TERM GLASSES FOR WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS PART OF TOWN IS REALLY GOING TO BECOME? WHAT DO YOU THINK LEANDER IS GOING TO GROW INTO OVER TIME? SO. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. PLEASE TO YEAH. SO I, I FOUND YOUR PRESENTATION VERY NICE. I THINK THAT YOU GUYS DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF KIND OF HITTING THE THINGS THAT YOU LOOK AS A CITY COUNCIL, PRESERVING TREES, TRAILS, AMENITIES, ALL THOSE THINGS ON THE TRACK. THAT'S BETWEEN. I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU'RE TRYING TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT SAYING, COME ON BOARD AND JOIN YOUR THING. AND, AND IF YOU GUYS MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS, THEY PROBABLY WILL TRY TO GET INVOLVED AT SOME POINT BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE FOR THEM TO TIE INTO THAT. AND SO, SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PLANS. 
          AND SO IN OUR CIP PLAN, WE HAVE PLANS TO PUT STUFF OUT HERE. AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS MUNICIPAL DISTRICT BASICALLY FUNDING THOSE PLANS. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. RIGHT. AND SO THAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO EXPEND THEIR MONEY FOR IT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT AS PART OF BEING THE BUILDER. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE CRUX OF THIS, RIGHT? AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS BASICALLY BUILD THESE ROADS THERE TO BASICALLY HELP WITH THE CIRCULATION. THE TIMING IS BASICALLY THREE YEARS OUT TO START TO GET WORK ON GETTING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE. BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING EAST WEST, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING NORTH SOUTH HERE AGAIN SOON. AND BAGHDAD IS WHETHER YOU GUYS GO OUT THERE OR NOT. WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH BAGHDAD, AND AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO GET LAKE LINE GOING UP AND THROUGH TO. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING OUT THERE AND ALL THAT. BUT I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I FIND THIS. I LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE HERE. I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT OTHER TRACK, SEE IF YOU CAN PULL THEM INTO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. AND, AND I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN LIBERTY HILL, ABOUT HOW THEY'RE DEVELOPING UP THERE AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO ROLL RIGHT DOWN INTO LEANDER AS FAR AS THEIR TRAFFIC. AND SO WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. AND THE ROADS UP THERE CAN'T SUSTAIN IT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH. BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET AHEAD OF IT HERE. IT SOUNDS LIKE IF WE PLAN AND IF YOU GUYS, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH US. AND SO I THINK THE QUESTION IS, I THINK YOUR LAST SLIDE SAYS YOU WANT TO KNOW IF YOU CAN WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF MORE TO DEVELOP A BETTER PLAN TO GET TIGHTER ON A PLAN. AND I WOULD SAY FOR MYSELF, I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT. SO PLACE ONE, THANKS AGAIN FOR THE INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION. I SHARE A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES COMMENTS. I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF US FOR THE SULLIVAN PLAN AND WE KIND OF TALKED THROUGH THE, THE PHASING OF THAT DEVELOPMENT SECTION AND HOW THE HOMES THERE WOULD TURN ON AND DIFFERENT PHASES. CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE ME AN IDEA OF WHERE YOUR DEVELOPMENT MINDSET IS, I GUESS, ON THE FRIO TRACT? AND I KNOW IT'S A TEN YEAR PROJECT, BUT WHERE DO YOU SEE DIFFERENT SECTIONS TURNING ON? YEAH, I THINK DEFINITELY THE FIRST PHASES WOULD COME FROM THE BAGHDAD SIDE. ON SULLIVAN NATHAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THAT. AND SO FRIO WOULD WOULD COME ON AS HE KIND OF DEVELOPED FROM EAST TO WEST. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE PORTION POTENTIALLY, AS WE EXTEND LAKELINE BOULEVARD UP, IF WE CAN GET THAT CONNECTION MADE BETWEEN THE TWO TRACKS, THEN THAT STARTS ALLOWING SOME FLEXIBILITY TO GET INTO THAT FRIO TRACK SOONER. BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS WE'RE STARTING ON THE SULLIVAN SIDE AND WORKING WEST FROM THERE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ANYBODY IS ADAMANTLY AGAINST THIS. YES, ONE PERSON IS ADAMANTLY AGAINST IT. BUT AS A GROUP, IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYBODY IS OKAY WITH THEM DOING A LITTLE MORE WORK WITH STAFF. IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND? PLEASE? YES. I AND COUNCILMAN HERRERA HIT ON THIS. 
          I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT, IF NOT IMPERATIVE, THAT WE DO HAVE AT LEAST SOME IDEA OF WHAT YOU GUYS MIGHT THINK IS HAPPENING NORTH OF THIS, RIGHT? I KNOW IT'S OUT OF YOUR CONTROL, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING AND WORKING WITH CITY STAFF THAT WE CAN KIND OF START TO IDENTIFY WHAT MIGHT BE HAPPENING THERE, WHAT SOME THOUGHTS ARE. BECAUSE CERTAINLY PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT 
          [00:50:02]
THIS AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY LOOKING TO DEVELOP LONG TERM, I THINK THE CITY MANAGER HAS ALLUDED TO, WE KNOW WE KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA, OKAY, IT'D BE NICE. IT'D BE NICE TO KIND OF LIKE REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT I THINK COMMENT AS WELL. PLACE SIX WAS NEXT. GO AHEAD. SO I JUST NEEDED TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND A FEW THINGS. BUT OVERALL, I AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF PURSUING THIS MORE. I THINK IT ADDS MORE DIVERSE HOUSING TO OUR COMMUNITY. I LOVE THE FACT OF THE SENIOR HOUSING CONCEPT IN IT, BECAUSE I THINK IT LENDS TO WHAT OUR COMMUNITY IS, AND INFRASTRUCTURE WISE, IT'S. I THINK IT CAN BE MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL. SO I, I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY WORTH DOING TOO. I THINK THAT THE STRUGGLE THAT AT LEAST I HAVE HAD OVER THE COURSE OF MY TIME ON COUNCIL IS, YOU KNOW, MUD IS SORT OF A BAD WORD, RIGHT? AND SO IT'S FIGURING OUT WHAT THOSE IS. AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, WHAT, WHAT THE, THE MUD BOARD LOOKS LIKE AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE BUYING HOMES IN THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE BUYING INTO AND THAT THAT IS VERY AND I KNOW WE HAVE WE REQUIRE THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH POST REPORTED EVERYWHERE, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITIZENS THAT DO BUY IN THAT COMMUNITY KNOW, KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BUYING INTO AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WELL FUNDED, WHICH I KNOW I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH. BUT THAT'S JUST AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF IT TO ME. YEAH, IT'S A REALITY FOR SURE. 
          YEAH. IT'LL HELP AVOID A LOT OF THE CONFLICT AND COMMENTS THAT END UP COMING BACK TO US AND EXPLANATIONS WE HAVE TO GIVE WHEN IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR PLACE FOR. I HAD ONE MORE COMMENT. YES, BESIDES THE ROADS AND THE TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE, I ALSO WORRY ABOUT THE WATER. 
          THE DEEP WATER INTAKE IS OVER 300 DAYS BEHIND SCHEDULE, WHICH IS CLOSE TO A YEAR. SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHEN WE THINK ABOUT INCREASING THE DENSITY IN THESE TYPES OF PLACES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DO Y'ALL HAVE WHAT YOU NEED FROM US? YOU DO NOT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU DO. OKAY. I ASKED IF YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED FROM US. OKAY. I WAS LIKE, YOU DON'T. WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED? IT'S LIKE I BETTER MAKE SURE. 
          WHAT? WHAT ARE WE NOT OKAY? I WAS LIKE, LET ME CLARIFY. OKAY. CITY MANAGER PARDON? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE? NO, MA'AM. GOT IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. WE HAVE OUR REGULAR MEETING. I WILL ASK THAT EVERYBODY BE BACK IN THEIR SEATS AND READY IN AT 658 SO WE CAN GET STARTED ON TIME. WE HAVE A VERY LONG AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT THE TIME IS NOW. TODAY IS THURSDAY, AUGUST 20TH, 2026. THE TIME IS NOW 7:08 P.M. 
          [4. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.]
AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL. MISS MINISTER PRISCILLA AMES WILL PROVIDE OUR INVOCATION TONIGHT. AFTER THE INVOCATION, MAKE SURE YOU REMAIN STANDING FOR OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE. COME ON. FORWARD. NOT BEFORE YOU. LORD. WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING ASSEMBLING AT THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER. 
          WE ASK YOU, LORD, FOR PEACE AND GUIDANCE IN THIS MEETING. LORD, PLEASE BLESS THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ALL STAFF MEMBERS, ALL FIRST RESPONDERS, AND THE ONES THAT SERVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          ALSO BLESS EACH AND EVERYONE THAT HAS ASSEMBLED THIS EVENING. WE ASK YOU, GOD, TO PLEASE ALLOW THE AFFAIRS OF THIS MEETING AND THE AGENDA TO BE DECIDED UPON IN ONE ACCORD. WE ASK FOR UNITY IN THIS MEETING. WE ALSO ASK YOU FOR YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, AS EVERYTHING THAT IS DECIDED UPON IS BENEFICIAL TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE ASK ALL OF THESE BLESSINGS IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. I'M JUST AS BAD AS ALLEGIANCE TO THE DIFFERENCES AND IN FAVOR OF ONE INDIVISIBLE. AMEN. THANK YOU MINISTER. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM FIVE. CITY SECRETARY CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER STEVEN CHANG, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER MICHAEL HERRERA HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER TONY BLAIR, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER ANNETTE SPONSELLER, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW NADINE HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM BECKY ROSS HERE. MAYOR NICOLE THOMPSON PRESENT QUORUM IS PRESENT IN THE CITY COUNCIL IS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS. MAY I HAVE A PEN, PLEASE? MINE DISAPPEARED. THANK YOU. I NEED 
          [6. Recognition of Special Guests and Visitors.]
A PEN, PLEASE. THANK YOU. WELL, ITEM SIX IS A WELCOME OF OUR SPECIAL VISITORS. AND WE HAVE A 
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FULL ROOM TONIGHT. BUT WE DID WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE ALL OF OUR FORMER ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CURRENT ELECTED OFFICIALS, ALL OF OUR ACTIVE AND RETIRED MILITARY, ALL OF OUR EDUCATORS, AND ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE IN THE ROOM. IF YOU'D RAISE YOUR HAND OR STAND, IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED AT THIS TIME. WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. SO ITEM SEVEN IS OUR NON-AGENDA COMMENTS. AND WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE SIGNED UP 
          [7. Public comments on items not listed in the agenda.
Public comments on items listed in the agenda will be heard at the time each item is discussed.
[All comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual.]]
FOR NON-AGENDA COMMENTS. BUT AS WE HAVE A FULL ROOM AND SOME WHO MAY NOT HAVE COME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME HELPFUL INFORMATION AS WE GO THROUGH TONIGHT. THIS IS A BUSINESS MEETING. THIS IS THE BUSINESS OF CITY OF LEANDER, AND WE CONDUCT OUR MEETINGS THAT WAY. AND SO WHEN YOU COME UP TO GIVE YOUR COMMENTS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO STATE YOUR COMMENTS. YOU WILL BE ON A TIMER. AND WHEN THAT BELL RINGS, IF YOU HAVE NOT FINISHED YOUR COMMENTS, I WOULD POLITELY ASK THAT YOU STEP TO THE SIDE SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE ELSE WHO IS HERE AND WANTS TO SPEAK GETS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. NOW, SOME OF YOU HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM. WHEN THAT AGENDA ITEM COMES UP IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU'LL GET THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORWARD. YOU'LL HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES, YOU'LL BE ASKED TO STATE YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN YOU'LL TAKE YOUR TIME AGAIN. IF THE BELL RINGS BECAUSE YOU'VE GONE OVER YOUR THREE MINUTES, WE'LL ASK THAT YOU STEP TO THE SIDE. I WILL ALSO ASK THAT THE GALLERY REMAIN QUIET. WE WON'T HAVE SHOUTS OR ANY INTERRUPTIONS LIKE THAT. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE WATCHING THE LIVE STREAM CAN ACTUALLY HEAR WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND THAT THE PEOPLE WILL COME BACK AND LISTEN TO THIS RECORDING, CAN HAVE AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE MEETING. IF FOR SOME REASON THERE IS AN OUTBURST, WE WILL ASK YOU TO STEP OUTSIDE AND WE WILL PAUSE THE MEETING UNTIL YOU DO SO AND CAN COLLECT YOURSELF. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CONTINUE OUR MEETING IN A PROFESSIONAL WAY TONIGHT. AND WE HAVE LOTS OF SPEAKERS, MORE THAN 30 PEOPLE, I BELIEVE, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AT THREE MINUTES EACH. WE WILL BE HERE A WHILE. SO WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS THEIR FAIR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND SHARE THEIR COMMENTS. SO I WOULD ASK UP FRONT IF WE COULD ABIDE BY THOSE THINGS SO WE CAN KEEP OUR MOVING, KEEP OUR MEETING. I'M SORRY, MOVING ALONG TONIGHT. SO ON ITEM SEVEN, OUR NON AGENDA ITEMS, WE HAVE ROBERT NEGRETE. IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. YES SIR. THANK YOU. 
          AND I APOLOGIZE IF I SAID YOUR NAME INCORRECTLY. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT FIRST PRESENTATION ON THOSE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS. HIS COMMENT ON ALIGNMENT ON 279 COMING FROM LIBERTY HILL IS STILL A TWO LANE ROAD. IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPROVE THE FLOW WITH ALL THESE VEHICLES GETTING ON THE ROAD. THE $0.78 MUD TAX ON THE AVERAGE COST OF $600,000 THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, THAT ADDS OVER $5,000 IN TAXES PER HOUSE. IN ADDITION TO THEY WILL BE SETTING THE RATES FOR THE WATER USAGE AND UTILITIES THAT. 
          YOU WILL HAVE NO SAY SO ON, WHICH WILL BE A BURDEN ON THE HOMEOWNERS. I'VE BEEN IN ENVIRONMENTAL BUSINESS AROUND AUSTIN FOR 40 YEARS, AND AUSTIN HAS TAKEN OVER ALL THE MUD DISTRICTS DUE TO THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE MAINTENANCE ON THE EQUIPMENT, PROVIDING PROPER SERVICES FOR THE THE HOMEOWNERS. OKAY, NOW COUNTY ROAD 280 WHERE THEY PROPOSED THIS DEVELOPMENT. I LIVED BACK THERE FOR 20 YEARS. IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD WITH A ONE LANE, 90 DEGREE BRIDGE. OKAY. WHOEVER DESIGNED THAT BRIDGE NEEDS TO GET FIRED. THEY'VE HAD 18 WHEELERS DESTROYING THE GUARDRAILS THERE. NOW THERE'S TWO NEW THREE, TWO SUBDIVISIONS WEST OF THAT BRIDGE, ONE ACRE LOTS. WHEN THEY START FILLING UP THOSE LOTS OVER THERE, IT'S GOING TO BOTTLENECK. COUNTY ROAD 280 IS STILL A TWO LANE ROAD. WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THAT DESIGN, THAT GLEN HIGH SCHOOL, WHERE 280 TIES INTO IT AND DOGLEGS OVER BY THE HIGH SCHOOL, THAT'S THE BAD DESIGN THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REALIGNED FOR REGULAR SUBDIVISION. OKAY, NOW, ASSUMING ALL THESE HOMES GO THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO COME DOWN BAGHDAD ROAD. MOST OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE INCLINED TO MAKE A LEFT ON SAN GABRIEL, TWO 
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LANE ROAD. WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? LAKELINE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PROPOSE TO BRING UP TWO LANE ROAD. LAKELINE ALL THE WAY SOUTH OF HERE AWAY IS PRETTY MUCH A TWO LANE ROAD. THE. WE'RE NOT SET UP FOR THAT, BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THESE MUD DISTRICTS. 
          OKAY, IT'S IT'S A MONEY GRAB FOR THEM. THAT'S ME. YOU'RE YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND LET ME GO AHEAD. YOU DIDN'T STATE YOUR ADDRESS. SO GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR ADDRESS. 13. MESA GRANDE. LEANDER. AWESOME. I AM NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT ALL MY EMPLOYEES PAY LEANDER TAXES. YOU SPEND MONEY IN LEANDER, AND I HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH. 
          LEANDER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. GOT IT. THAT WAS INTENTIONAL. 
          OKAY. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, WHEN YOU GIVE YOUR COMMENTS UP HERE, IT'S NOT A TIME FOR DELIBERATION BACK AND FORTH WITH COUNCIL. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO STATE WHATEVER IT IS YOU WOULD LIKE TO STATE DURING YOUR TIME. IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP WE NEED TO HAVE WITH STAFF, WILL MAKE SURE SOMEBODY FOLLOWS UP WITH YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT PERSON IS FORMER MAYOR JOHN COLEMAN. COUNCIL MAYOR, CITY MANAGER. NICE TO MEET YOU ALL. 
          I'VE BEEN OUT OF TOUCH. I'M A NONRESIDENT NOW. I STILL HAVE A HOME HERE IN LEANDER, BUT I'VE GIVEN IT TO MY DAUGHTER. SHE'S WITH CHILD. AND LINDA'S POPULATION IS GETTING YOUNGER. 
          RIGHT. SO WE'RE WE'RE STILL DOING OUR THING. I LIVE I'VE GOT A HOME IN TAYLOR, A HOME OUT IN LEE COUNTY. I'VE GOT A CONDOMINIUM DOWNTOWN. SO 1500 SCENIC DRIVE, UNIT 201, AUSTIN. 
          78703. I WANT TO TALK JUST ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I'VE BEEN OUT OF TOUCH, BUT LIKE KATHY HOWELL GIVES THE HISTORIES OF LEANDER AND HER MOTHER BEFORE THAT, KAREN THOMPSON, I'VE GOT RECENT HISTORY TO TALK ABOUT, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS GRANTS FROM 1978 TO 2003, THE CITY OF LEANDER HAD $500,000 IN GRANTS ISSUED TO THEM. MY FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE, WE HAD 12,500,000. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE GETTING GRANTS. 
          CDBG ACADEMY, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANTS, ENVIRONMENTAL GRANTS, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE. BUT I DO HOPE YOU ALL STILL CONTINUE ON THAT PATH BECAUSE IT HELPED US BUILD OUR PARK SYSTEM, OUR LIBRARY, THROUGH BOND AND GRANT. I THINK WE STARTED A COUPLE OF FOUNDATIONS, AND I HOPE YOU ALL WORK ON THAT QUITE A BIT BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, BUT ALSO SOMETHING THAT'S VERY DEAR TO ME IS I'M GOING TO GO WAY BACK TO 2006. THAT'S WHEN YOUR CITY STARTED WORKING ON THE 2010 CENSUS, 2006, FOUR YEARS IN ADVANCE. THE STATE DEMOGRAPHER SAID THAT WE HAD THE BEST PACKAGE AND OUR POPULATION WAS COUNTED BY THE WAY WE DID IT. A FELLOW BY THE NAME OF SEAN LAFFERTY. I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S STILL WITH THE CITY, BUT HE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB AND THE STATE DEMOGRAPHER SAID IT'S THE BEST COUNT THEY HAVE EVER SEEN IN OTHER CITIES STARTED USING OUR FORMAT. SO IT'S NOW 2026. I'D LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER INSTRUCTING YOUR CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT STAFF TO START THE PROCESS OF THE 2030 CENSUS, BECAUSE THAT MEANS MONEY. TEXAS IS DUE TO GAIN FOUR SEATS IN THE HOUSE, AND THAT MEANS MONEY FOR OUR CITY THROUGH FEDERAL FUNDS BASED ON POPULATION. SO I DO HOPE YOU ALL WOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. AND ONE OTHER THING THAT'S JUST KIND OF FUN AND NOSTALGIC. WE SAID THE TEXAS PLEDGE. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE CITY OF LEANDER WAS THE FIRST CITY IN THIS AREA TO SAY IT? BECAUSE I WENT AROUND TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND SPOKE WITH THESE KINDERGARTNERS, AND THEY'D ASK VERY TOUGH QUESTIONS. BUT THEY ALL SAID THIS PLEDGE, WHAT IN THE WORLD IS THAT? AND I THOUGHT, BECAUSE OUR CHILDREN HAD TO SAY IT, WE NEEDED TO. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. JAMES DEAN. IF YOU'D STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. I'M JAMES DEAN, I LIVE AT 2513 COSTA DEL SOL LEANDER, TEXAS, RIGHT THERE 
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AT THE GOLF COURSE. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE CITY STAFF WHO DO A LOT OF WORK, AND ALL OF OUR VOLUNTEERS THAT SERVE ON THESE VARIOUS COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS AND ALL THE STUFF THAT THEY DO FOR US AS WELL. 
          SPEAKING OF WHICH, SOME OF US WERE A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED WHEN THE P AND Z TOOK UP SOME RECENT MATTERS THAT THEY DID NOT LOOK AT WATER ISSUES, WATER CONCERNS, WHEN THEY LOOKED AT DEVELOPMENTS. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, I THINK THEY NEED TO START LOOKING AT THAT. THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF OUR PUZZLE, ESPECIALLY HERE IN LEANDER AND IN CENTRAL TEXAS. MANY OF US ARE DEALING MORE AND MORE, MORE AND MORE WITH WITH WATER SCARCITY. AND WE'RE SEEING THAT ALL OVER. I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT LEANDER IS IN A DROUGHT. WE HAVE BEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND WHEN P AND Z IS LOOKING AT THESE VARIOUS PROJECTS, DEVELOPMENTS COMING TO THEM, THEY THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WATER ISSUES, WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER SOURCE. DO WE HAVE THE WATER FOR THESE PROJECTS AND THESE DEVELOPMENTS TO MOVE FORWARD? THE OTHER THING THAT I DO WANT TO SAY, THOUGH, IS I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT DO SO MUCH TO BRING OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER, TO BUILD OUR COMMUNITY UP. WE HAVE A MUCH DIFFERENT CITY COUNCIL NOW THAN WE DID. I'VE BEEN AROUND TEXAS NOW 16, 17 YEARS. I'VE HAD OUR HOME IN LANDER SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS. WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER COUNCIL AND A MUCH BETTER CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF WORKING TOGETHER TO BUILD A BETTER LEANDER. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE THINGS THAT I SEE ON JUST JUST IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE FOR OUR CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY. AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. RICHARD DAVIS. IF YOU PLEASE, STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. RICHARD DAVIS, WE RESIDE AT 10760 EAST CRYSTAL FALLS PARKWAY, LEANDER, TEXAS. LAST THURSDAY WHEN WE MET, I PUT A PACKET IN YOUR MAILBOX BECAUSE I WAS LIMITED ON MY TIME, AND SEVERAL OF YOU RESPONDED. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND TONIGHT I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TCEQ. I CONTACTED THEM AND ASKED THEM TO SEND ME A REPORT, A SAFETY REPORT ON DAM NUMBER THREE. I THOUGHT, SINCE THEY'VE LOWERED THE DAM FOUR FEET, MAYBE THERE'S SOME ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE DEALT WITH. SO I'VE GOT THEIR RESPONSE. AND IF I COULD. 
          THERE ARE TWO LIVES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS RESPOND. NUMBER ONE IS THE THE LIE OF THE PLYWOOD. 
          THE PLYWOOD COVERED UP THE PORTS ON THE DAM. THIS IS A BIG HOAX. THIS PLYWOOD WOULD HAVE TO BE 29 YEARS OLD BECAUSE WE'VE LIVED ON BLOCKHOUSE CREEK ADJACENT TO THE DAM FOR 29 YEARS. WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF FISHING, SWIMMING, BOATING. IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL. UNTIL OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR WHEN THEY DRAINED IT. WE HAVE ZERO WATER NOW, ZERO WATER. THE STATE REQUIRES THESE DAMS TO BE INSPECTED EVERY FIVE YEARS. SO THE 29 YEARS WE'VE LIVED THERE, THAT MEANS THAT THEY'VE INSPECTED IT FIVE TIMES, NOT ONE TIME IN THESE FIVE YEARS HAS THE PLYWOOD ISSUE COME UP. THIS IS LIE NUMBER ONE. LIE NUMBER TWO, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE REPORT THAT I JUST GAVE YOU, IT SAYS DAM OPERATORS RETURN THE SPILLWAY TO THE ORIGINAL PLANS AND SPECS SO THE DAM COULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS DESIGNED. THE DAM WAS OPERATED DESIGNED WITH A RISER OF 876.7, NOT 873. NOW THE BRUSHY CREEK AND THE WCID HAS PAID AN ENGINEERING FIRM $100,000 TO DO A REPORT TO TEST THE INTEGRITY OF THE DAM THAT'S PERFORMED 
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FLAWLESSLY FOR 64 YEARS. SINCE 1962. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THE CITY OF LEANDER SPENT $7 MILLION BUILDING A PARK, THE CROWN JEWEL OF THE PARKS, AND NOW THEY'VE LET WCID COME IN THERE AND RUIN IT, TAKING AWAY THEIR FISHING AND THEIR KAYAKING. SO I WOULD JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE CITY OF LEANDER GO TO WAR AGAINST WCID AND GIVE US BACK OUR WATER. 
          DON'T THEY HAVE FUNDS, LEGAL FUNDS TO DO THIS? THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SIR. WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR. THIS SEEMS VERY SPECIAL. WOULD YOU LIKE THIS? THIS IS BIG. I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T WANT IT, I'LL KEEP IT BECAUSE IT'S NICE, BUT THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE TO OUR CONSENT 
          [ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]
AGENDA AND COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS EIGHT THROUGH 19. THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL 
          [21. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding the Bar W Ranch West Commercial Annexation Case A-26-0027 and the adjacent right-of-way (ROW) of Kauffman Loop Annexation Case A-26-0028 regarding the voluntary annexation of 9.247 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District as Parcel R491371; and north of Kauffman Loop, approximately 775 feet west of Ronald W. Reagan Boulevard, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. 
Discuss and consider action regarding Annexation Case A-26-0027 as described above.Discuss and consider action regarding Annexation Case A-26-0028 as described above.]
THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING. AND WE ARE GOING TO TAKE OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS OUT OF ORDER TONIGHT. SINCE ITEM 20 HAS THE MOST SPEAKERS ON IT, WE'RE GOING TO GO A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER. WE'RE GOING TO DO 21, 22, 23, 24, AND THEN COME BACK TO ITEM 20. SO WE'LL START WITH ITEM 21, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE BAR W RANCH WEST COMMERCIAL ANNEXATION CASE, A DASH 26-0027 AND THE ADJACENT RIGHT OF WAY OF KAUFMAN LOOP ANNEXATION CASE A DASH 26-0028. REGARDING THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF 9.247 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ROBIN GRIFFIN. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. 
          GOOD EVENING. SO THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ANNEXATION REQUEST FOR THE BAR W RANCH WEST COMMERCIAL SITE. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED OFF OF KAUFMAN LOOP TO THE WEST OF RONALD REAGAN. THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS OUR WATER TOWER SITE, AND THEN THIS PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS PART OF THEIR ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S ALREADY LOCATED IN THE CITY LIMITS. THIS PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WHEN THE BAR W DEVELOPMENT CAME IN. 2008, WE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM THAT ANTICIPATED FUTURE ANNEXATION OF SITES TO BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL, AND THE INTENT WAS SO THE CITY COULD COLLECT PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX. SO NOW THEY ARE READY TO DEVELOP THE SITE. SO THEY HAVE MADE THE REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ZONING CASE THAT GOES WITH THIS ANNEXATION REQUEST. APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM DOES NOT APPROVE THE ANNEXATION. IT JUST HANDLES THE FIRST STEPS. WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE ZONING, AND YOU'LL HAVE A SECOND CHANCE TO REVIEW THIS AT THE NEXT MEETING. AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. AND THERE'S NO PRESENTATION. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN AT THIS TIME, BUT AS WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY SIGN UP FOR IT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. AND WE'LL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ANNEXATION. CASE A DASH 26-0027. CAN I DO THEM BOTH TOGETHER? THAT'S SEPARATE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM OR ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS ITEM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ANNEXATION. 
          CASE A DASH 26-0028. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OKAY. YOUR HAND WENT UP. I WAS LIKE, WAIT, DO YOU HAVE DISCUSSION? OKAY. GOT IT. THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 22, 
          [22. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case Z-26-0214 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to adopt the Bar W Ranch West Commercial Minor PUD (Planned Unit Development ) with the base zoning of GC-3-A (General Commercial) on three (3) parcels of land 29.036 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R491371, R485001, and R451803; and generally located northwest of the intersection of Ronald W. Reagan Boulevard and Kauffman Loop, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. 
Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-26-0214 as described above.]
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ZONING CASE Z-26-0214 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR 1-B TO ADOPT THE BAR W RANCH WEST COMMERCIAL MINOR PUD WITH THE BASE ZONING OF GC 3-A ON THREE PARCELS OF LAND AS STATED IN THE POSTED AGENDA. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ROBIN GRIFFIN FOR YOURS. GOOD EVENING. SO THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE BAR W RANCH WEST COMMERCIAL MINOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THIS REQUEST IS LOCATED TO THE WEST OF RONALD REAGAN AND NORTH OF KAUFMAN LOOP. THE AREA THAT IS IN WHITE IS THE ANNEXATION THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT IN THEIR BOUNDARIES INCLUDE THIS GREEN PIECE TO THE EAST. SO THIS REQUEST IS FOR A MINOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL BASE ZONING DISTRICT. AND THIS DISTRICT WOULD ALLOW FOR REGIONAL SERVING COMMERCIAL USES, AS WELL AS A HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE. THEY HAVE REQUESTED SOME WAIVERS TO THE ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE UNLIMITED STORAGE AND DISPLAY ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOME 
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IMPROVEMENT RETAILER, SO THAT WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR ANY USE SPECIFICALLY TO THAT USE. 
          THEY'VE ALSO INCLUDED SOME PROHIBITED USES, AS WELL AS SOME REGULATIONS AROUND VEHICLE REPAIR. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID APPROVE THIS REQUEST WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT THE VEHICLE REPAIR WAS LIMITED TO 8000FT■!S. IN THE AGENDA PACKET ITSELF, THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION ABOUT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE 8000 SQUARE FOOT VEHICLE SERVICE, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT NOT NO PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN ON THIS MATTER. WE DID NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK. SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. AND WE'LL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING. CASEY DASH 26-0214 AS DESCRIBED ABOVE. 
          COUNCIL. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? YOU HAVE A QUESTION PLEASE. FIVE I'M JUST I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THE STAFF. ADVISORY CONGRESS. I CAN CLEAR IT UP FOR YOU. YEAH. SO WHEN, WHEN WE DRAFTED THE THE PUD, THERE WAS AN ALLOWANCE TO HAVE A VEHICLE REPAIR. AND WE HAD ASKED FOR A LIMIT OF 5000FT■!S. AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE APPLICANT BEFORE THE HEARING. SO DURING THE HEARING, THE APPLICANT PROPOSED 8000FT■!S AND STAFF AGREES TO THAT. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A RESTRICTION, THE ENTIRE SITE COULD BE VEHICLE REPAIR. 
          SO THE INTENT WAS TO MAKE SURE IT WAS A SMALL SCALE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 23. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING 
          [23. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case Z-26-0235 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFR-1-B (Single-Family Rural) to adopt the EMI (PUD) Addition Minor Planned Unit Development with the base zoning of GC-3-A (General Commercial) on one (1) parcel of land 5.35 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Travis Central Appraisal District Parcel 513805; and generally located approximately 800 feet north of the intersection of FM 1431 and Vista Rock Drive, Leander, Travis County, Texas.Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-26-0235 as described above.]
ZONING CASE Z-26-0235 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFR1-B TO ADOPT A M I PUD ADDITION. MINOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. NO, IT'S A DIFFERENT ONE. THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YEAH. ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND, 5.35 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE IS STATED IN THE POSTED AGENDA. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ROBIN GRIFFIN. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ADDITION. THIS IS LOCATED OFF OF 1431 AND IT'S TO THE NORTHWEST OF THEIR EXISTING RETAIL SITE. THEY WANTED TO EXPAND THEIR DEVELOPMENT. THIS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DOES ALLOW FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE AND RETAIL SALES ON THE SITE. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. BUT AGAIN, AS WE HAD NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, IT IS NOW CLOSED. AND WE'LL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z-26-0235 AS DESCRIBED ABOVE. COUNCIL, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? NO, JUST NEED A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? FANTASTIC. MOTION CARRIES AND WE'LL MOVE 
          [24. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case Z-25-0197 to amend the current zoning of Interim SFS-2-B (Single-Family Suburban) to GC-3-A (General Commercial) and on Zoning Case Z-26-0239 for a Special Use Permit to allow for one (1) food truck on one (1) parcel of land 1.67 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R031577; and generally located northeast of the intersection of Ronald W. Reagan Boulevard and CR 177, Leander, Williamson County, Texas. Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-25-0197 as described above.Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-26-0239 as described above.]
TO ITEM 24. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ZONING Z-25-0197 TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING OF INTERIM SFS 2-B TO G, C3A AND ON ZONING CASE Z-262039 FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR ONE FOOD TRUCK ON THE PARCEL OF LAND 1.67 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ROBIN GRIFFIN. GOOD EVENING. SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A ZONING REQUEST OFF OF RONALD REAGAN AT CR 177. 
          CURRENTLY, THIS PROPERTY HAS AN INTERIM ZONING DISTRICT OF SFS SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN. THIS REQUEST HAS TWO SEPARATE ACTIONS FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. THE FIRST CASE IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY TO A COMMERCIAL USE, WHICH DOES COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A GC3A. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REVIEWED THIS REQUEST DURING THEIR MEETING, AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF GC2A THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE THREE A AND THE TWO A WOULD BE THE OUTDOOR USES OF THE SITE, SO YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THINGS LIKE A GAS STATION OR A CAR WASH OR OUTDOOR STORAGE WITH THE TYPE TWO SITE COMPONENT. THE SECOND PART OF THIS CASE IS THE REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR ONE FOOD TRUCK ON THE PROPERTY. STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE FOOD TRUCK FOR ONE YEAR. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REVIEWED THE REQUEST, AND THEY DID RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE FOOD TRUCK. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. OKAY, WELL, WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, THE PROPERTY TAXES ON THIS 
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PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS A COMMERCIAL SITE, RIGHT. ON RONALD REAGAN 2020, IT WAS VALUED AT 330 00021, 344,022, 550 1000 2023 1 MILLION 162 2024, 1.4 MILLION 2025 1.348 MILLION. I MAKE ZERO INCOME ON THIS PROPERTY. THERE IS NO SEWER TO THE PROPERTY FOR ME TO DO ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY EXPECTS ME TO DO HERE TO GENERATE ANY REVENUE TO SUSTAIN, MAKE MY MORTGAGE PAYMENT OR MY PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH ARE RIDICULOUSLY HIGH. SO FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY, AND THIS ENTIRE PROCESS HAS BEEN SUGGESTED BY THEM THAT WE GO THROUGH JUST FOR PUTTING ONE FOOD TRUCK. THAT FOOD TRUCK WILL GIVE US THE INCOME TO SUSTAIN, SURVIVE, MAKE OUR PAYMENTS TWO YEARS. LAST TWO YEARS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY AND THIS IS WHAT THEY SUGGESTED. APPLY FOR A ZONING CHANGE AND APPLY FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. AND NOTHING HAPPENS. 
          ONCE WE GET THE SPECIAL USE PERMITS, IT'S AGAIN A TWO YEAR PROCESS OF A SITE DEVELOP, MINOR SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND ALL THAT PROCESS THAT'S REQUIRED. SEE, IF YOU GO TO CITY OF AUSTIN, THEY DON'T NEED ANYTHING. YOU CAN GO TO ANY SITE AND PUT A FOOD TRUCK AND NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS. THIS IS JUST COMMON SENSE. THE PEOPLE, THE CITY AND THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO SERVE THE PEOPLE. WE CAN'T HAVE VACANT SITES LIKE THIS GENERATING ZERO INCOME AND THE HUGE EXPENSES THAT ARE INCURRED. SO PLEASE, WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH A LOT ON THIS SITE. THIS IS A PRIME COMMERCIAL SITE ON RONALD REAGAN AND 177 IT'S NOT GOING TO HARM ANYBODY. JUST GIVE US THIS APPROVAL FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO JUST PUT ONE FOOD TRUCK. IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYBODY'S LIFE OR IMPACT ANYBODY. SO I REQUEST THE CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE APPROVE MY ZONING CHANGE AND THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE THAT IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. AND SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. 
          AND WE AND WE'LL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z-25-0197. COUNCIL. 
          I'LL START WITH PRO TEM. I MEAN I WOULD BE OPEN TO THE TO A OKAY. I MEAN REALLY NO COMMENTS OTHER THAN THAT. OKAY. YEAH WE'LL GET TO THE OTHER ONE WHEN WE WE GET TO THAT NEXT ONE PLEASE. FIVE DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING OKAY. PLACE FOR GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE. SO I HAVE A QUESTION SO I WELL I GUESS A GENERAL QUESTION. SO YOU KNOW, GOING FROM THE GC3A TO THE TWO A YOU KNOW SO. SO THEY DON'T WANT A GAS STATION THERE ON A CORNER ON RONALD REAGAN. THAT'S THAT THAT WHY IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? SO THAT'S WHAT PLANNING AND ZONING SAID. YEAH. 
          SO THERE THERE'S NOT CURRENTLY A PROPOSED USE FOR THE PROPERTY. RIGHT. SO THEY WERE LOOKING AT A MORE RESTRICTIVE SITE COMPONENT. SO IT WOULDN'T ALLOW A GAS STATION OR A CAR WASH. 
          RIGHT. AND WE PLAN ON PUTTING CRYSTAL FALLS STRAIGHT THROUGH RIGHT THERE JUST NORTH OF THAT. 
          YES, ABOUT 100 YARDS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S GOING TO SIT RIGHT NEXT TO OUR WATER PLACE RIGHT THERE. SO I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T AGREE WITH RESTRICTING WHAT GOES THERE. I THINK WHAT WE HAVE WHAT THE THREE A SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. I JUST I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY NOT LET THE PROPERTY OWNER TRY TO GET THE MAXIMUM VALUE THEY CAN FOR THE PROPERTY AND ALL THAT. AND WHY RESTRICT IT AT THIS TIME? SO I THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. YOUR QUESTION. GOOD. OKAY. PLEASE SIR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING. YEAH. I KIND OF WOULD JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN GC3A AND GC2A. ESSENTIALLY THE RESTRICTION WAS BASED ON, PER. YOUR COMMENTARY WAS JUST BASED OFF OF. THERE WAS NO INTENDED PURPOSE COMMUNICATED. AND SO THEY'RE. SO WE'RE DEFINING THAT THAT PURPOSE ESSENTIALLY. RIGHT. 
          OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT IN TERMS OF, I BELIEVE IS THE SITE IMPROVEMENT. THE SECOND PIECE OF THIS, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. OKAY, SO I'LL RESERVE THAT QUESTION FOR THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE NEED A MOTION. MAKE A COMMENT THAT I AGREE WE'RE OVERREGULATING WHAT WHAT THESE PEOPLE CAN DO WITH THEIR LAND AND THEY REALLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO. THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT. LIKE RIGHT NOW. THE YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE GETTING SPECIAL USE PERMIT, BUT THEN BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY, ESPECIALLY WHERE THAT PROPERTY IS LOCATED, I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT AS GC3A, I'LL SECOND, OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE 
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IN FAVOR. CLARIFICATION TWO EIGHT HE SAID 3838 OKAY. IS YOUR HAND UP OR DOWN. OH OKAY. 
          I WAS LIKE IT'S UP OR DOWN. IT'S UP OR DOWN. OKAY. SO THE MOTION IS YOU GOT IT. THREE AND THOSE AGAINST. OKAY. AND AGAINST. YEP. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING ZONING CASE Z-26-0239 AS DESCRIBED ABOVE. ANY COMMENTARY FROM COUNCIL ON THAT ONE? I WOULD SAY MY MAIN CONCERN THAT I SAW IS THE LOCATION OF HAVING A FOOD TRUCK ON THAT CORNER AS WE'RE COMING, OR FOOD TRUCK PARK, IF YOU WILL, ON THAT CORNER AS WE'RE COMING UP AND DOWN, RONALD REAGAN, KNOWING ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ABOUT TO GO IN, THERE IS A IS A CONCERN FOR ME THAT USE THERE. BUT THAT THAT'S MY CONCERN. PLACE ONE ROBIN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN OPTION THREE. GO TO OPTION THREE. OKAY, SO WITH OPTION THREE THAT'S WHAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDING OR ASKING THAT THE TIME FRAME IS ONE YEAR INSTEAD OF FIVE YEARS. 
          WITH THAT OPTION, THE COUNCIL COULD ADD OTHER REQUIREMENTS TO IT OR CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE SITE. SO SOME SOME WAIVERS THAT WERE INCLUDED WERE NOT EXTENDING UTILITIES. THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAVE THE PARKING LOT, AND THEY WON'T HAVE TO BUILD THE SIDEWALK FOR THE FOOD TRUCK USE ITSELF. SO THAT WOULD ALL COME IN WHEN THERE IS A FULL DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE. OKAY. 
          PLACE TWO ANYTHING. YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE UP ANYTHING. BUT IF IF YOU HAD A COMMENT, I JUST, I, I GO BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING BEFORE, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT PROPERTY SITTING THERE, I, WE JUST IT'S GOING TO BE GENERAL COMMERCIAL. I THINK THE TAXES ARE GOING TO GO UP ON IT. IS THAT RIGHT? PROPERTY TAXES, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ZONED FOR DIFFERENT ZONING IS, I THINK, A COUNTY BASIS. IS IT ON LAND USE? OKAY. SO IT ACTUALLY IS BEING USED, BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY PUT SOMETHING ON IT, THEY ACTUALLY TAXES WILL GO UP TO MOST LIKELY AND THINGS. AND, AND HE'S GOING TO MAKE ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS AND HE'S GOING TO MAKE THEM IN A YEAR. 
          AND THEN IN A YEAR, HE'D HAVE TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT TALK TO US AGAIN. AND WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO PUT A FOOD TRUCK THERE, WE'RE GOING TO SEND PEOPLE OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE IT LINES UP WITH EVERYTHING. AND HE'S GOT TO FOLLOW A LOT OF RULES, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. PLEASE. SO THE ONLY QUESTION I REALLY HAD WAS JUST CONFIRMATION ON IF THERE WAS ANY SAFETY REQUIREMENTS. THAT WOULD A LOT FOR THIS ONE YEAR EXTENSION. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS SOME JUSTIFICATION ON WHY THERE WOULD NEED TO BE ONE YEAR FOR THIS SPECIAL USE. BEFORE IMPROVEMENTS WERE MADE. IT WAS SEEN AS A TEMPORARY USE AND SO A YEAR SEEMED TEMPORARY COMPARED TO FIVE YEARS. OKAY. AND DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF INFORMATION ON WHAT TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE MADE? YEAH. SO THEY'LL HAVE TO YOU CAN SEE ON THE, THE SCREEN, THEY'VE ADDED A LITTLE PARKING AREA, SEATING AREA AND THE FOOD TRUCK WILL BE PLACED THERE. THIS PROPERTY IS ON SEPTIC AND HE'S NOT REQUIRED TO EXTEND THE UTILITIES. HE'LL MOST LIKELY HAVE TO UPGRADE THE SEPTIC TANK TO ACCOMMODATE THE USE. OKAY. 
          OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE PLAYS FOR PLACE FIVE? SO THE FOOD TRUCK ITSELF IS JUST SOMETHING THAT IS BEING DONE TO MONETIZE THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME. HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PERMITTING PROCESS TO CHANGE THAT PROPERTY TO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMERCIAL FOR, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, JUST FOR THE CONVERSATION. YEAH, I WANTED TO REDEVELOP THE SITE FOR PERMANENT USE. YOU WOULD DO A SITE PERMIT WHERE YOU GO THROUGH THE REVIEW OF THE DRAINAGE AND THE LANDSCAPING AND THE UTILITIES. SO IF THERE'S AN APPROVAL ON THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND NOTHING IS DONE TO THAT PROPERTY, WHILE THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY PURSUES A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT OKAY? IS IS THAT I MEAN, WE CHANGE THE USE. HE DOESN'T DO IT AND HE ACTUALLY COMES UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE. YEAH, IT'S JUST AN OPTION. IT'S JUST AN OPTION. IT JUST ALLOWS FOR HIM TO AGAIN, FIND SOME OPPORTUNITY TO MONETIZE THE PROPERTY DURING THIS TRANSITIONAL PERIOD OF TIME, RIGHT? THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT HE'S GOING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE PROPERTY, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. PLEASE, YOU GOTTA COME TO THE MIC, PLEASE, AND SPEAK IN THE MIC. THANK YOU. SO THE REASON I CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS IS THERE IS NO SEWER HERE. IT'S PRIME LAND ON RONALD REAGAN WITH NO SEWER. 
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WITHOUT SEWER, I CAN'T DO ANY DEVELOPMENT THERE. SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. WHAT'S THE COST TO RENEW IN ONE YEAR? IT'S $200. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I WANT TO MAKE IT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THE SECOND. WHO'S EVER GOING TO SECOND. THEN WE CAN HAVE YOUR COMMENT. OKAY. SECOND. OKAY. SO WE HAVE YEAH. FOR THE FOR THE ONE YEAR OR FIVE. WHAT ARE Y'ALL? I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST TWO YEARS, TWO YEARS. OKAY. SO THEY'RE SUGGESTING SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE TWO. SO THERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FOR TWO YEARS FOR THE FOR TWO YEARS. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE YOU VOTE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OKAY. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE READY TO MOVE TO BACK TO ITEM 20. IT IS 747. WE ARE GOING TO COUNCIL. TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK SO THAT YOU CAN USE THE BATHROOM, GET SOMETHING TO DRINK, AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK AT MAYBE IN THE AFTER THAT, I THINK BECAUSE ALSO MAYBE IN THE Q&A TIME, SHE MAY NEED TO SHOW SOMETHING. THAT'S WHY I THINK ALL RIGHT, IT'S 754 AND WE ARE GOING TO GET STARTED. SO IF YOU CAN GRAB YOUR SEAT. OKAY. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, ITEM 25 HAS BEEN PULLED AND IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK AT A LATER AGENDA. SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WAS WAITING ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM, IT'S BEEN PULLED FROM THE AGENDA AND IT'LL BE BROUGHT BACK LATER. AND JUST AS A REMINDER FOR THOSE WHO MAY HAVE COME IN LATER, THIS IS OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS OUR BUSINESS MEETING. AND WE KNOW WE HAVE LOTS OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON IN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 20. AND AGAIN, I WOULD JUST REMIND YOU TO WHEN YOU COME UP, WE'LL SAY YOUR NAME, BUT YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO GIVE YOUR COMMENTS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. IF THE TIMER GOES OFF, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU WOULD STOP TALKING AND RETURN TO YOUR SEAT, SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY THAT HAS SIGNED UP GETS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR COMMENTS SPOKEN TONIGHT. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO DISRUPTION OR COMMOTION OR LOUD NOISE FROM THE GALLERY WE ARE FILMING, IT IS LIVE STREAMING, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RECORD IS CLEAR AND THAT PEOPLE ONLINE ARE ABLE TO HEAR EVERYTHING 
          [20. Conduct a Public Hearing regarding Zoning Case Z-25-0195 to amend the Leander Springs PUD (Planned Unit Development) with base zoning districts of MF-2-A (Multi-Family) and GC-3-A (General Commercial) to update the language as it relates to phasing and timing of the development, reduce the total number of apartments, and modify the phasing requirements on two (2) parcels of land 77.90 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcels R403524 and R051592; and generally located southwest of the intersection of 183A Toll Road and RM 2243, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.Discuss and consider action regarding Zoning Case Z-25-0195 as described above.]
THAT'S GOING ON. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO NOW WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 20, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ZONING CASE Z-25-0195 TO AMEND THE LEANDER SPRINGS PUD WITH BASE ZONING DISTRICTS OF MF DASH TWO, DASH A AND G, C-3-A TO UPDATE THE LANGUAGE AS IT RELATES TO PHASING AND TIMING OF THE DEVELOPMENT. REDUCE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF APARTMENTS AND MODIFY THE PHASING REQUIREMENTS ON TWO PARCELS OF LAND 77.9 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE, AS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ROBIN GRIFFIN. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS MY LAST ONE. OKAY. YES, WE MADE IT. 
          YEAH. SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE LEANDER SPRINGS DEVELOPMENT. IT'S LOCATED AT 2243 AND 183. THIS PROJECT REQUEST INCLUDES THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF MF TWO A, WHICH IS A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT, AND G. C3A, WHICH IS A GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. THIS PROPERTY HAS A LOT OF HISTORY. IN 2018, THERE WAS A PUTT APPROVED TO ALLOW FOR A LAGOON. 
          THIS PUD DID HAVE AN EXPIRATION THAT STATED THE DEVELOPER HAD TO CLOSE BY NOVEMBER 17TH, 2018, OR THE ZONING REVERTED BACK TO SINGLE FAMILY. THEY DID NOT CLOSE, SO IT REVERTED. BACK THEN. WE HAD A NEW REQUEST IN 2020 THAT WAS APPROVED APRIL 4TH, 2021. THIS REQUEST WAS PAIRED WITH THE CHAPTER 380 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND IT WAS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY. IT WAS APPROVED, BUT IT HAD A CONDITION THAT THE CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION HAD TO BE APPROVED FOR THE LAGOON BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2023. SINCE THAT DEADLINE WAS NOT MET, THE BASE ZONING NOW ALLOWS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO ONLY HAVE 35,000FT■!S OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. SO THE PURPOSE IN THIS REQUEST IS TO REMOVE THE EXPIRATION AND CLARIFY THE PHASING. THIS REQUEST STILL INCLUDES A FOUR ACRE LAGOON. THEY HAVE REDUCED THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY. NOW THEY'RE REQUESTING 1200 APARTMENT UNITS, AND THEY'LL BE PART OF A VERTICAL MIXED USE BUILDING. 
          THEY DO HAVE A MODIFICATION FOR BUILDING HEIGHT FOR THE INTERNAL AREAS, AND THEY'RE 
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ALSO ADDING A CONNECTION TO THE BRUSHY CREEK TRAIL SYSTEM. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID REVIEW THE REQUEST AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL, AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF NOTIFICATIONS. 
          THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS MISSED, BUT THEY DID GO BACK AND NOTIFY THEM AND GIVE THEM A SECOND CHANCE AT A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE COMMISSION. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. WELCOME TO THE APPLICANT. YOU CAN COME. I THINK YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION AND THEN TEN MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION, AND SHE'LL HAVE THE TIMER GOING THERE. SO AND THEN AFTERWARDS WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GET THAT GOING. YEAH, WE HAVE MULTIPLE PRESENTERS. AND SO. WE'LL DO OUR BEST IN TEN MINUTES IS TOO SHORT, BUT THAT'S FINE. OKAY. AND MAKE SURE IF YOU SPEAK IN THE MIC, I CAN BARELY HEAR YOU. 
          SO TEN MINUTES IS TOO SHORT. OKAY, FOR THIS ONE FOR SUCH IMPORTANT PROJECT. BUT. WE'LL DO THE BEST. OKAY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY, LIKE ROBIN WAS SAYING. SO I CAME INTO THIS PROJECT AS AN INVESTOR. I'M NOT A DEVELOPER ON THIS ONE ORIGINALLY. SO I WAS THE PRIMARY PERSON IN TERMS OF SUPPORTING THE DEVELOPER THAT I BANKED ON BECAUSE I BELIEVED IN THE VISION BECAUSE IT'S AMAZING LIVE WORK, PLAY SETTING PROJECT THAT GENERATES ALMOST $225 MILLION OF TAX REVENUE AND 2600 KIND OF FULL TIME JOBS HERE. 
          AND THEN TO GO BACK TO A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THAT, A TECH ENTREPRENEUR, AND I'VE BEEN LIVING IN AUSTIN FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS. I SENT MY KIDS, THREE OF MY KIDS TO LEANDRA ISD. SO I AM THE BENEFICIARY OF LEANDER. SO I'M KIND OF CONNECTED, PASSIONATE ABOUT TRYING TO DO MY BEST BACK TO GIVING BACK TO THE LEANDER CITY. AND SO THAT'S THE PRIMARY THING. AND I'M NOT A DEVELOPER OR INVESTOR FROM NEW YORK OR SOMEWHERE CRAZY BIG THING. THEY'RE ONLY LOOKING FOR MONEY OR SOMETHING. I'M TRYING TO DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL. AND IF YOU SEE IT, I FOCUS ON LEGACY, LIFESTYLE AND IMPACT. SO IMPACT IS SOMETHING THAT I CARE ABOUT. AND IF YOU SEE MY NOT ONLY WE HAVE CONNECTION. MY WIFE IS A FORMER POLICE OFFICER, UT POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND SHE'S PROBABLY JOINING TRAVIS COUNTY IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. SO SHE WENT THROUGH THAT SIDE OF THE THING. SO WE ARE OF THAT SIDE OF THE GAME. WE PROVIDE SERVICE. WE HELP PEOPLE TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN. WE ARE NOT ABOUT ONLY MONEY. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE PROBABLY THINK DIFFERENTLY WHEN IT COMES TO BIG PROJECTS. SO WHEN THIS DEVELOPER COULDN'T DELIVER WHAT WE WERE HOPING FOR, WHAT WE PUT IN TONS OF MONEY, TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. SO RECENTLY WE TOOK OVER. WE SAID, OKAY, LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING. LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE SOMETHING THAT WE PROMISED. AT LEAST WE BACKED ON IT, RIGHT? AND THEN THAT'S WHEN I STARTED WORKING WITH CLOSELY WITH ALL THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF AND EVERYBODY ELSE. BEFORE THAT, I WAS NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVED. SO I COULDN'T CONTROL A LOT OF THINGS. BUT AGAIN, THERE IS A HISTORY WHY THIS DEADLINE IS MISSED, RIGHT? A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK, OH, THEY MISSED THE DEADLINE. WE REMOVE THIS X, Y, Z. BUT THERE WERE SO MANY THINGS HAPPENED PANDEMIC. 
          NOBODY EXPECTED THAT IT HAPPENED. DID WE CONSIDER THAT ONE TO EXTEND THIS ONE? NO. I MEAN, THERE WERE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH EVEN IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF CYCLES FOR SIMPLE APPLICATION PERMITTING, SIX, SEVEN CYCLES, THAT NEVER HAPPENS, USUALLY 2 OR 3 MAX. SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON THERE'S SO MANY OTHER REASONS THAT HAPPENED THAT WHY THAT WAS MISSED. NEVERTHELESS, I'M NOT GOING TO BLAME THE DEVELOPER OR I'M NOT GOING TO BLAME ANYBODY NOW THAT I AM CONTROLLING. AND WE WENT THROUGH THIS, OBVIOUSLY, THE WHOLE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH EVERYBODY. PNC APPROVED TWICE, SEVEN ZERO AND FIVE ONE. SO OBVIOUSLY THAT MEANS IT IS SOMETHING THAT FITS INTO WHATEVER THAT CITY IS LOOKING FOR. AND THEN IF YOU SEE, AND OBVIOUSLY, LIKE I SAID, NOT FROM ANYWHERE ELSE. SO LET'S GO THROUGH FURTHER DETAILS. THE PROJECT IS 1200 MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT UNITS, 1 MILLION PLUS COMMERCIAL. THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF REVENUE GENERATED HOTEL, 275 ROOMS AND 20,000 SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIAL. AND OF COURSE, THERE'S A PARKLAND THAT IS PART OF CITY WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO, RIGHT? GREEN PARKLANDS, TRAILS AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT'S BEING DONE HERE. AND OF COURSE, FORAKER LAGOON, INFAMOUS FOR VARIOUS REASONS, BUT WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND WE GOT 15 PLUS PERMITS. AND THEN AND IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY. AND SO AND OF COURSE, WE WE ARE READY TO GET THIS DONE AND THEN START CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT IS THE PART, THE CHANGE. IT WAS 1600 APARTMENT UNITS LAST YEAR. WE AGREED THAT WE WOULD LOWER THE DENSITY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT ONE OF THE CONDITION THAT CITY WAS ASKING FOR. AND THEN SO WE DID 
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REDUCE FROM 1600 TO 1200. AND THEN REDUCED OUR PHASE ONE, 400 TO 352 UNITS. AND THEN LAGOON MADE IT AS A NON ESSENTIAL. THAT MEANS IT NEVER HAS TO GIVE WATER PERIOD. SO AND WE HAVE OUR OWN PRIVATE WELL WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO DO THAT ONE. AND THEN A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO IMPACT. BUT WE HAVE A HYDROLOGIST. AMAZING DETAILS. WE HAVE A OF COURSE THE WATER REUSE CAPABILITIES OF 95% OF THE WATER REUSED. SO ALL THAT WE HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, WE HAVE ALL THE PROOFS. IN FACT, WE HAVE SUBMITTED 32 LONG QUESTIONNAIRE TO ALL THE CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO I HOPE YOU GUYS GOT ALL THE ANSWERS, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. SO AND THEN OF COURSE, THE OCCUPANCY CONDITION, WE CANNOT GET THE MULTIFAMILY OCCUPANCY UNLESS WE FINISH THE LAGOON FIRST. SO LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE. A LOT OF THESE BIG DEVELOPMENTS GOES THROUGH A LOT OF CHALLENGES. 
          TYPICALLY YOU TAKE DOMAIN, YOU TAKE ANY OF THESE THINGS. SO SAME THING APPLIES TO LEANDRO SPRINGS AS WELL. SO BUT STILL IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF GROUPS THAT WENT THROUGH NOT MUCH. 
          WE'VE BEEN THE ONLY ONE JUST DEVELOPER IS NOT NECESSARILY INVOLVED NOW BECAUSE I PUT IN A LOT OF MY PERSONAL FAMILY AND FRIENDS MONEY. SO I'M NOW TRYING TO DRIVE IT TO COMPLETION. AND SO BASICALLY THAT'S THE KIND OF CHALLENGES EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH. BUT AGAIN, WE WE ARE NOT GIVEN UP IN THE LAST 4 OR 5 YEARS. AND IN TERMS OF WHAT IS THERE APPROVED, IF YOU SEE IT HAS EVERYTHING THAT CITY IS LOOKING FOR, IT HAS A HOTEL FOR HOTEL TAXES. IT HAS A COMMERCIAL FOR SALES TAXES OR WHATEVER THAT NEEDS TO BE. AND THEN LAGOON FOR A LOT OF TAX REVENUE. AND OF COURSE OVER. $800 MILLION, ROUGHLY APPROXIMATELY THE WHOLE FULL CONSTRUCTION OF THIS THING THAT GENERATES A LOT OF PROPERTY TAX AS WELL. AND THERE'S SO MANY OTHER COMPONENTS. BUT AGAIN, WE CAN WE CAN SKIP AND THEN GO. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN WE MET STAFF, THEY SAID THAT THEY NEED. LET'S SEE, HOW DO I GO BACK? OKAY. THEY NEEDED SUBURBAN KIND OF OFFICE SPACE. THAT'S GREAT. WE HAVE THAT ALREADY PART OF THAT ONE. SO WE COULD OBVIOUSLY ACCOMMODATE THAT. AND THEN COMING TO THE LAGOON. SO OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE A LOT OF DETAIL THERE. LIKE A LAGOON. IT HAS EVERYTHING THAT A LOT OF CITY OF LEON OR RESIDENTS ARE ASKING. WE PUT A POLL, WE ASKED, HEY, LET'S SAY IF YOU HAVE AN OPTION TO NOT HAVE A LAGOON, BUT SOMETHING ELSE, WHAT DO YOU NEED? THEY SAID AMPHITHEATER. THEY SAID GREEN PARK, GREEN AREA FOR EVENTS, THEY SAID SURF PARK. 
          THEY SAID A LOT OF OTHER THINGS. MOST OF THOSE THINGS ARE THERE. THE LAGOON SEEMS TO BE THE PROBLEM BECAUSE OF MASSIVE BODY OF WATER. THEY THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF EVAPORATION, ETC. BUT WE HAVE A EXPERT HYDROGEOLOGIST CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT ONE. IT HAS A KIDDY POOL. IT HAS EVERYTHING PEOPLE ARE ASKING. SO LET'S CONTINUE. AND THEN OF COURSE, THIS IS A STAGE DEVELOPMENT. SO IN THE PHASE ONE, LOT OF PEOPLE THINK, OH, 1200 APARTMENT UNITS IS HUGE. NOT REALLY. IT'S 352 APARTMENT UNITS IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS. 
          AND THEN IT'S STAGED IN MULTIPLE LIKE EVERY THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS. SO IT TAKES 10 TO 12 YEARS MINIMUM TO DO THAT ONE. SO DENSITY WISE, IT IS APPROVING HUNDREDS OF HOMES, HUNDREDS OF APARTMENTS OR ETC. SO IN TERMS OF OVERALL, THE IMPACT IT LEAVES IS NOT MUCH, WHETHER IT'S WATER, ROADS OR UTILITIES OR WHATEVER THAT IS NEEDED. IN FACT, WE ARE NOT EVEN USING WATER FOR OUR LAGOON. WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE USING FOR ONLY THE APARTMENTS OR THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF THE EQUATION. SO THAT'S ON THAT. BUT IT IS GOING TO GENERATE $225 MILLION OF TAX TAXES. THAT'S CRAZY GOOD FOR CITY OF LEANDER, WILLIAMSON COUNTY FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, ISD AND THEN OF COURSE, THE CAPMETRO AND A LOT OF THOSE LOCAL TAX DISTRICTS. SO THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING. AND SO AGAIN, TIMELINES FOR PHASE ONE IS 2027 TO 2029. IF YOU GET THE APPROVAL TODAY, WE WILL START NEXT YEAR, THE CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN OF COURSE, PHASE 2 TO 4 WILL GO A LONG TIME. SO WE DON'T NEED TO REALLY GO THROUGH RIGHT NOW AGAIN. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE QUESTION ABOUT THE FINANCING. IF YOU SEE WE HAVE ALMOST A LOT OF EQUITY, $25 MILLION OF EQUITY, AND THEN WE HAVE A FAMILY OFFICE COMMITTED ROUGHLY $30 MILLION. WE HAVE A CPS APPROVED ROUGHLY $92 MILLION. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE A BANK. AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER COMPONENT CALLED EB5, ROUGHLY $80 MILLION. WE MAY NOT USE IT BECAUSE THERE IS SOME ISSUES, CONCERNS OF USING THAT ONE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. SO BUT NEVERTHELESS, THAT'S OUR PLAN OF EXECUTING. SO THAT'S OUR CAPITAL STACK. AND THEN LET'S GO INTO THIS DETAILS. WE NEVER GIVEN UP. FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD EVEN THOUGH SO MANY SETBACKS, CHALLENGES, ETC. AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO BLAME ANYBODY BECAUSE I WAS SITTING ON THE BACK END. 
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I WAS NOT NECESSARILY DIRECTLY INVOLVED, BUT I AM NOW DIRECTLY INVOLVED. SO I'M TRYING TO DRIVE IT, MAKE IT HAPPEN FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED. SO THAT SHOWS THE PERSEVERANCE, COMMITMENT AND THEN CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT. AND, AND SO I, LIKE I SAID, COVID WAS NOT FACTORED IN. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY. I MEAN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT ANYBODY COULD CONTROL AND THAT WAS NOT CONSIDERED. AND THEN THE END DATE WAS PUT IN NORMALLY, NEVER HAS. TYPICALLY THESE KIND OF DATES USUALLY SHOULD HAVE 380 AGREEMENT OR DA, BUT NEVERTHELESS THAT WAS THERE. 
          THAT IS THE ISSUE THERE. BUT WE WORKED THROUGH. SO THAT'S A YES THERE ZERO DEMAND ON CITY WATER SUPPLY FOR THE LAGOON, ZERO. AND THEN WE ARE RECYCLING UP TO 95% OF THE WATER ON THAT. AND HYDROLOGICAL ENVIRONMENTAL THING. WE HAVE NOT JUST ASSUMED ANYTHING. WE HAVE ENGAGED EXPERTS TO REALLY SEE THE IMPACT OF OVERALL. WHAT IS THAT GOING TO BE HAPPENING ON THE NEARBY WALLS OR OVERALL ON THE AQUIFER EVERYWHERE ELSE? SO WE HAVE ALL THE PROOFS THAT ARE NEEDED. IN FACT, YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN SHE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. ALL RIGHT. 
          THIS IS THANK YOU FOR GETTING THAT DONE. YOU ALMOST GOT IT DONE. NO, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT MORE THERE. AND IT'S THIS FOR THIS SERIOUS PROJECT. AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TIME IS IT'S KIND OF A DISSERVICE. I MEAN WELL THAT'S OKAY. I MEAN, WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION HERE AND I THINK YOU GOT THROUGH WHAT YOU COULD GET THROUGH. SO WHAT WE'LL DO NOW IS START OUR PUBLIC HEARING. AND IF COUNCIL HAS ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEY'LL CALL YOU BACK UP TO ASK YOU DIRECT QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU PRESENTED. 
          IF YOU WANT TO GRAB YOUR SEAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL START WITH OUR PUBLIC HEARING. 
          WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT. ANYBODY THAT SUBMITTED THEIR SUBMISSIONS ONLINE. COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED THOSE POSITIONS, BUT I DO HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS THAT JUST ONLY WANTED THEIR POSITION READ INTO THE RECORD. ONCE WE GET THAT DONE, THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE SPEAKERS THAT ACTUALLY WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT. SO THE FIRST ONE IS FOSBURY FOR ITEM 20 AND THEY ARE AGAINST THIS ITEM. I DON'T HAVE A FIRST AND LAST NAME ON THAT ONE. OKAY. 
          REKHA DUBAI OR DUBAI FOR THIS ITEM. NET. HI MALIK FOR THIS ITEM. MUKESH SAVAGE SAVAGE I'M SORRY CANNOT READ THE HANDWRITING IS FOR THIS ITEM. AMBER. OH. RAND. AGAINST THIS ITEM. MANJI IYER AGAINST THIS ITEM. BILLY. TARZAN AGAINST THIS ITEM. AARON THE HELL. 
          RYDELL AGAINST THIS ITEM. JEFFREY. DEL AGAINST THIS ITEM. RACHEL HOLLIDAY FOR THIS ITEM. 
          CRAIG AND FELICIA CONWAY AGAINST THIS ITEM. RAGHU OR OR GOLA FOR THIS ITEM. RAMI VALLARTA FOR THIS ITEM. CHADWICK. BOHANON AGAINST THIS ITEM. SARAH BOHANON I KNOW I'M NOT SAYING THAT RIGHT, BUT AGAINST THIS ITEM. CINDY HULSCHER AGAINST THIS ITEM. 
          MARK MOORE AGAINST THIS ITEM. MAUREEN SAVEL AGAINST THIS ITEM. ALL RIGHT. IS EVERYTHING THAT ARE ON THESE CARDS. I DON'T NEED THE LIST. RIGHT. OKAY. THEY'RE THEY'RE ON HERE. SO I DO NEED THE LIST AS WELL. OKAY. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO START CALLING PEOPLE UP. 
          MATTHEW BLACKWELL IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. AND I HAVE YOUR POSITION AGAINST THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS 
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MATTHEW BLACKWELL. I LIVE AT 733 COVE BEND. PLAN IS UP IN THE NEAR THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PARCEL. I'VE BEEN LIVING IN THAT PROPERTY FOR A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS, BUT I AM A 12 YEAR RESIDENT OF LEANDER. MOVED RECENTLY TO GET A BIGGER SPACE AND BE CLOSER TO SOME OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING NEAR NORTH LINE OLD TOWN. I PLAN TO LIVE IN MY PROPERTY, MY HOUSE, UNTIL I LEAVE IN A BOX, OR A DOCTOR FORCES ME TO LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO I'M GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THE IDEA OF THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WITH MIXED USE. I LOVE THE DIVERSIFICATION THAT THIS IS GOING TO BRING TO OUR TAX BASE. I LIKE BEING CLOSE TO IT. HOWEVER, I HAVE SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE SPECIFICS THAT ARE IN THE CURRENT PLAN. SO I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT WATER. I KNOW THAT'S A BIG, YOU KNOW, ISSUE THAT'S GOING ON WITH IT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MY OTHER CONCERNS ARE NOT LOST IN THE MIX OF THAT. THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE CONNECTION, THE STREET CONNECTION OF COVE AND BEND TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS A DIFFERENT PLAN THAN WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED AT THE TIME THAT WE MADE. A LOT OF US MADE DECISIONS TO PURCHASE IN THIS COMMUNITY. THE PUBLIC USE IS NO LONGER PART OF THE PROPERTY AND THE PLAN, AND THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN HERE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE IMPACT TO TRAFFIC IS GOING TO DO TO OUR COMMUNITY. TALKING ABOUT CONCERTS THAT WILL HOST UP TO 2000 PEOPLE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, MAYBE CONSERVATIVELY, A THOUSAND EXTRA VEHICLES THROUGH THERE. 2243 IS VERY NARROW. THAT IS NOT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S A COUNTY ROAD DEVELOPMENT OF THAT MIGHT TAKE A WHILE. AND AS A LOT OF YOU MIGHT BE AWARE, GOOGLE LIKES TO SEND PEOPLE DOWN SIDE ROADS TO GET OUT OF THINGS WHEN TRAFFIC IS HEAVY. ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S LIKELY I COULD GUESS THAT THERE AT SOME POINT IN THE 50 TO 60 YEARS THAT I'M PLANNING ON LIVING IN MY PROPERTY CHARGE FOR PARKING IN THAT AREA, AND PEOPLE WILL GO AND LOOK FOR FREE PARKING, WHICH WILL SEND THEM TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE VERY NARROW ROADS. IT IS ALREADY AN ISSUE FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN SAFETY AND COMING THROUGH. WE ARE ALSO A VERY WALKABLE COMMUNITY. CURRENTLY. I INVITE ALL OF YOU TO COME TO OUR COMMUNITY AT EIGHT 10:00 AT NIGHT, SEE FAMILIES AND KIDS WALKING THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SOMETIMES IN GROUPS THAT ARE TOO LARGE TO WALK ON THE SIDEWALKS. AND SO HAVING CONCERTS AND PEOPLE LEAVING CONCERTS, POTENTIALLY AFTER DRINKING, COMING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CREATES A RISK AND SO RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THIS EFFORT AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS. LOVE THE IDEA, BUT DO NOT WANT TO HAVE THIS TAKE AWAY FROM OUR ENJOYMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND CREATE SAFETY RISK FOR US AND OUR DEVELOPMENT AND OUR DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GARLAND. SHAZAM! IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. I LIVE AT 15104 APPLE SPRINGS HOLLOW. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL THIS EVENING. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER IN THE APPLE SPRINGS SUBDIVISION, RELYING ON A PRIVATE WELL FOR HOUSEHOLD WATER USAGE. MY COMMENTS THIS EVENING ARE DIRECTED SPECIFICALLY IN REGARD TO THE FOUR ACRE LAGOON. ON BEHALF OF MANY LOCAL WATER WELL OWNERS. I'M ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THE WATER FEATURE OF THIS PROJECT. ANYONE WHO HAS LIVED IN CENTRAL TEXAS FOR A FEW YEARS SHOULD BE AWARE THAT WATER SUPPLIES, SPECIFICALLY AQUIFERS, ARE IN A CONSTANT STATE OF DECLINING LEVELS. DESPITE THE HYDROLOGY REPORT. PRIVATE WELL OWNERS RELYING ON THE TRINITY AQUIFER HAVE BEEN FORCED TO DRILL DEEPER WELLS, MYSELF INCLUDED, AS MANY AS SEVERAL OF MY NEIGHBORS WATER WELLS, WHICH WERE DRILLED TO DEPTHS OF 4 TO 500FT YEARS AGO, ARE NOW HAVING TO DRILL DEEPER REPLACEMENT WELLS AT DEPTHS OF 7 TO 800FT. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF A FOUR ACRE LAGOON WOULD REQUIRE PUMPING OVER 4 MILLION GALLONS OUT OF THE AQUIFER FOR INITIAL FILL, AND A DAILY WATER EVAPORATION RECHARGE IS OVER 10,000 GALLONS OF WATER. THIS DAILY RATE IS WHAT MY HOUSEHOLD USES IN 3 TO 4 MONTHS FOR OUR BASIC DAILY NEEDS. USING THE AQUIFER FOR AN ORNAMENTAL WATER FEATURE IN THIS MANNER, IN MY OPINION, IS A GROSS MISUSE OF THE AQUIFER WATER SUPPLY. IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, SOCIAL MEDIA HAS BEEN BOMBARDED WITH CLAIMS FROM THE DEVELOPER REGARDING WATER USE, AS WELL AS STATEMENTS PROCLAIMING THAT, WELL, OWNERS ARE BEING ALARMIST. THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN INCONSISTENCIES REGARDING THE AMOUNT OF LAGOON WATER USAGE, USING GALLONS PER MINUTE STATISTICS TO MAKE THE DATA SOUND MORE APPEALING, IT'S NOT HARD TO FIND RESEARCH. YOU CAN JUST LOOK IT UP. THE AQUIFER CONSERVATION ALLIANCE REPORTS THAT THE TRINITY AQUIFER IS ACTUALLY A LOW PRODUCTION   & AQUIFER, WHICH RECHARGES SLOWLY WITH ONLY 4 TO 5% OF RAIN RECHARGING IT. IN SPITE OF THE 
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LOW RECHARGE RATE, IT CONTINUES TO BE ONE OF THE MOST EXTENSIVELY USED GROUNDWATER RESOURCES. FURTHERMORE, THE TRINITY AQUIFER IS A VITAL RESOURCE FOR RURAL DOMESTIC USE, LIVESTOCK AND CROP IRRIGATION. IT'S ALSO HIGHLY SUSCEPTIBLE TO DROUGHT DEPLETION, SURFACE RUNOFF, AND WATER QUALITY PRESSURES FROM DEVELOPMENT. THE STATEMENT IS AFFIRMED BY WESTERN ENVIRONMENT GEOLOGY ENGINEERING FIRM WITH OFFICES IN IRVING AND BOERNE, TEXAS. 
          DON'T GET ME WRONG, I'M NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT, BUT I'M IN FAVOR OF RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT THAT PROMOTES ECONOMIC GROWTH WITHOUT ENDANGERING OUR PRECIOUS NATURAL WATER RESOURCES. I URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARGARET KAPLAN. MARGARET KAPLAN. OH, SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE YOU GET UP. I'M SURE TO. SO I UNDERSTAND. 501 DREAMCATCHER DRIVE AND LEANDER. THE TRINITY AQUIFER AROUND LEANDER IS A FINITE WATER GROUNDWATER RESOURCE VULNERABLE TO DROUGHT, DECLINING RECHARGE, DRAWDOWN, AND CUMULATIVE PUMPING IMPACTS. THE DEVELOPER, RG X, EMPHASIZES THAT THE LAGOON WILL USE A PRIVATE ON SITE WELL, THAT DOES NOT CHANGE THE CORE ISSUE. PRIVATE OR NON MUNICIPAL DOES NOT MEAN A DIFFERENT AQUIFER. THE WATER IS STILL COMING FROM THE SAME VULNERABLE GROUNDWATER SYSTEM THAT LOCAL RESIDENTS AND AGRICULTURE DEPEND ON. THIS IS NOT AN ESSENTIAL PUBLIC USE. 
          THE LAGOON IS A LUXURY AMENITY DESIGNED TO MAKE A PRIVATE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT MORE MARKETABLE AND PROFITABLE. WE ARE BEING ASKED TO RELY ON ASSURANCES THAT EVAPORATION CONTROL TECHNOLOGY WILL KEEP WATER DEMAND LOW. TECHNOLOGY CLAIMS ARE NOT SAFEGUARDS. SO WHERE ARE THE ENFORCEABLE PROTECTIONS? WHERE'S THE INDEPENDENT SITE SPECIFIC HYDROGEOLOGICAL IMPACT ASSESSMENT? THE CONTINUOUS METERING AND TRANSPARENT PUBLIC REPORTING AND ENFORCEMENT PUMPING LIMITS, AND AN AUTOMATIC CUTOFF TIED TO ACTUAL AQUIFER CONDITIONS WITHOUT SAFEGUARDS. SUSTAINABLE IS A PROMISE, NOT A GUARANTEE. AND IF THAT PROMISE FAILS, IT'S NOT THE DEVELOPER WHO BEARS THE LONG TERM RISK. IT'S THE NEIGHBORING WELL OWNERS WHO DEPEND ON THIS AQUIFER. DENIAL IS NOT OPPOSITION TO DEVELOPMENT. IT IS RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND INTENSIVE WATER FEATURE MUST FIRST DEMONSTRATE THOROUGH INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS. THAT IS. THAT WILL. IT WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT EXISTING USERS, MEET STRICT CONSERVATIVE CONSERVATION STANDARDS AND REMAIN SUBORDINATE TO RESIDENTIAL AND ESSENTIAL WATER NEEDS. COUNCIL SHOULD JUDGE THIS PROPERTY BY DEMONSTRATED PERFORMANCE ONLY. THE PROJECT HAS A DOCUMENTED HISTORY OF MISSED DEADLINES, YEARS OF DELAY, LOST CITY INCENTIVES, CONSTRUCTION LIENS AND REPEATED REVISIONS. THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL APPROVALS AND FLEXIBILITY GIVEN ITS HISTORY. 
          ENFORCEABLE PERFORMANCE PROTECTIONS, NOT PROMISES, MUST BE REQUIRED. EB FIVE DOES NOT GUARANTEE THE RETURN OF INVESTOR MONEY OR GREEN CARD INVESTOR CAPITAL IS AT RISK, AND THE PROJECT MUST MEET FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING JOB CREATION, WHICH IS A LENGTHY PROCESS. THE RISK TO THE LEANDER IS ALLOWING PRIVATE FINANCING CONSIDERATIONS TO INFLUENCE THE CITY'S STEWARDSHIP OF GROUNDWATER. YOUR FIDUCIARY DUTY REQUIRES YOU TO PUT LEANDER RESIDENTS, TAXPAYERS AND SHARED RESOURCES FIRST. THIS MEANS PUTTING THE PUBLIC INTEREST AHEAD OF A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND REQUIRING DEMONSTRATED PERFORMANCE, NOT PROMISES. ON THIS RECORD, THE APPLICATION REQUIRES DENIAL. THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. AND I WILL ASK AGAIN. WE ARE RECORDING. THIS IS LIVE STREAMING. IF YOU NEED TO CLAP, THAT'S FINE, BUT WE NEED TO KEEP IT TO A MINIMUM AND QUIET SO WE CAN GET THROUGH ALL OF THESE FOLKS THAT WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT. CAN WE HAVE ROBERT KING COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR. ADDRESS IS 200 MESA RIDGE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ROBERT KING. I'M A LOCAL RESIDENT WHOSE HOME DEPENDS ON A PRIVATE WELL, SPECIFICALLY IN THE THE LAYER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY DRILLING INTO. SO IT'S SPECIFICALLY DOESN'T IMPACT ME JUST A COUPLE OF MILES UP THE ROAD HERE ON HERO WAY. I'M SPEAKING FOR NEIGHBORS IN MY AREA AS WELL. THAT COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I GUESS THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE, THE, THE MEETING UNTIL JUST YESTERDAY. AND SO THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO, TO PLAN TO BE HERE. BUT I'M ASKING YOU TONIGHT TO VOTE NO. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, LIKE WAS ALREADY STATED. I'M NOT AGAINST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN LEANDER. I THINK IT'S NECESSARY. YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE COMMERCIAL 
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SPACE, LOOK AT THE RESTAURANTS, THE HOTELS, THE JOBS, BRING THE INVESTMENT, BUT DO NOT PUT NON-ESSENTIAL FOUR ACRE NON-ESSENTIAL RECREATIONAL LAGOON IN THIS PROJECT. I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN FEATURE HERE. ULTIMATELY, THIS IS A QUESTION OF PRIORITIES. THE DEVELOPER SEES THIS AS A THIS PROJECT AS AN INVESTMENT. AND UNDERSTANDABLY, THE CITY SEES JOBS, TAXABLE PROPERTY SALES, TAX REVENUE, HOTEL REVENUE, SO ON AND SO FORTH. BUT WE AS RESIDENTS HAVE ONE INTEREST AND THAT IS OUR WATER AND A FINITE RESOURCE. IT IS NOT A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STATISTIC FOR US. IT'S HOW WE DRINK, IT'S HOW WE BATHE. IT'S HOW WE LIVE IN OUR HOMES. AND I RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THAT PROTECTING THIS ESSENTIAL WATER SUPPLY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE MUST COME BEFORE PROVIDING WATER FOR A NON-ESSENTIAL RECREATIONAL AMENITY. AND THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU THAT AT PUBLIC HEARINGS, RESIDENTS HAVE REPEATEDLY RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT WATER TRAFFIC, THE IMPACT OF PROJECT TO HAVE ON THOSE OF US WHO RELY ON PRIVATE WELLS. AND THESE CONCERNS SHOULD MATTER. WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY BIGGEST SIMPLE QUESTION. IF LEANDER WANTS A LAGOON, WHY ISN'T LEANDER SUPPLYING THE WATER? THE LAGOON IS INSIDE THE CITY OF LEANDER. THE DEVELOPMENT BENEFITS LEANDER. THE TAX REVENUE BENEFITS LEANDER. THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NUMBERS BEING PRESENTED JUST TO JUSTIFY IT ARE LEANDER'S BENEFIT. YET INSTEAD OF SUPPLYING THE RECREATIONAL AMENITY FROM THE CITY'S WATER SUPPLY, THE PROPOSAL WOULD PUMP MILLIONS OF GALLONS AND I BELIEVE 7 MILLION IS THE ACTUAL ESTIMATE FOR THE INITIAL FILL FROM THE TRINITY AQUIFER. THE AQUIFER DOES NOT STOP AT THE CITY LIMIT. FAMILY IS OUTSIDE THE CITY. DEPEND ON THAT WATER. WE DON'T GET A VOTE. I DON'T GET A VOTE BECAUSE I LIVE JUST OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. I DON'T EVEN GET A VOTE OF WHO'S THE COUNCIL HERE? BUT YOU GET A VOTE. WHETHER I GET TO HAVE WATER IN MY WELL AFTER THIS PROJECT GOES IN, OR IF IT DOES. BUT WE STILL SHARE THE GROUNDWATER RISK THAT'S FUNDAMENTALLY BACKWARDS. IF THIS LAGOON USES AS LITTLE WATER AS WE'RE BEING TOLD, THEN PUT IT ON THE CITY METER. I'LL SKIP MY SECTION ABOUT THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS, BUT THE EB FIVE WAS 40%. IF YOU NOTICE THAT THAT WAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER. SO THERE'S A LOT THERE. THE GROUNDWATER STUDIES I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR ONLINE, WE GOT THE FIVE PAGE KIND OF SUMMARY OF EVERYTHING, THE 140 WELLS THAT'S COMES FROM A NUMBER OF WELLS THAT HAVE BEEN DIGITALLY SORT OF OR SENT IN SINCE 2003. THAT'S WHY MY WELL, EVERY WELL IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, NONE OF US ARE ON IN THAT 140 NUMBER. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, ELEANOR MELTZER I'D LIKE THAT. THE SPIRIT FINGERS. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD, I LIKE THAT. 
          ELEANOR MELTZER IF YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, MY ADDRESS IS 122 WOODLAND TRAIL, LEANDER, 78641. I LIVE IN LAKEWOOD COUNTRY ESTATES, WHICH IS A DEVELOPMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 100 LANDOWNERS. ALL THE HOUSES IN LAKEWOOD COUNTRY ESTATES RELY ON WELLS FOR BOTH DRINKING WATER AND SEPTIC. OUR WELL HAPPENS TO BE 840FT DEEP. THE PUMP IS AT 700FT AND IT ACCESSES THE LOWER TRINITY AQUIFER. MR. TROY HILL HAS PUBLICLY REPRESENTED THAT THE PROPOSED LEANDER SPRINGS DEVELOPMENT QUOTE WILL COMPETE WITH THE KALAHARI OF THE WORLD, END QUOTE. SO BASED ON THIS STATEMENT FROM AN INDIVIDUAL WITH KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, THE FOLLOWING IS INFORMATION REGARDING WATER USAGE BY AN EXISTING KALAHARI RESORT LOCATED IN SPOTSYLVANIA, VIRGINIA. THE SPOTSYLVANIA KALAHARI ALSO HAS A FOUR ACRE WATER FEATURE, SO THE INFORMATION I'M PROVIDING IS DERIVED FROM SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FAQ SITE. REGARDING THEIR RESORT. 
          THE TOTAL DAILY WATER USE FOR ALL FACILITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE SPOTSYLVANIA KALAHARI IS ESTIMATED BY SPOTSYLVANIA TO BE AS HIGH AS 2.17 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY DURING PEAK PERIODS. OF THAT, THE FOUR ACRE WATER PARK USES UP TO 413,000 GALLONS PER DAY. THE REMAINING DAILY WATER USAGE GOES TO HOTEL ROOMS, RESTAURANTS, MEETING SPACES, PUBLIC SPACES AND RETAIL SHOPS ASSOCIATED WITH THE RESORT. IN 2021 VIA THE WATER AND WASTEWATER RATE STUDY. THIS CITY, THE CITY OF LEANDER, ESTIMATED THAT AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD WATER USAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 10,000 GALLONS PER MONTH OR PER MONTH, OR AROUND 329 GALLONS PER DAY. SO, BASED ON THE CITY'S OWN ESTIMATES, THE PROPOSED LEANDER SPRINGS PROJECT COULD REPRESENT DAILY WATER USE, EQUIVALENT TO THAT OF AROUND 6600 HOUSES. SO SINCE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL RELY VERY HEAVILY, IF NOT EXCLUSIVELY, ON WELLS TO SUPPLY 
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WHAT MAY BE AS MUCH AS 2.17 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER PER DAY. I HAVE THE FOLLOWING THREE QUESTIONS. ONE HOW MANY WELLS WILL BE REQUIRED TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT? A TWO HOW WILL THE CITY OF LEANDER ACCOMMODATE HOMEOWNERS WHEN FAMILY WELLS RUN DRY DUE TO GROUNDWATER EXTRACTION FROM THE PROJECT? AND FINALLY, AS SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY HAS DONE, WHEN WILL THE CITY PROVIDE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE IMPACT INFORMATION BASED ON ESTIMATED WATER USE FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, CARL NORMAN, IF YOU WILL COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. CARL NORMAN 1821 CROSS TRAIL. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING ME THE TIME TO TALK. AS YOU SEE, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO TALK TONIGHT. I'M AGAINST THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FOR SEVERAL REASONS. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS CONCEPT HAS BEEN ATTEMPTED HERE IN LEANDER. THE LAST TIME WAS A BOONDOGGLE THAT FAILED MISERABLY. IT'S THE SAME DEVELOPERS, A DIFFERENT CAST OF CHARACTERS, HOWEVER, THAT FAILED PREVIOUSLY. NOW, INSTEAD OF BEING SUPPORTED BY A PAST TOXIC MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FROM THE DAIS WHO PUSHED THIS BAD IDEA, THEN THEN NOW THE EFFORT IS SUPPORTED BY TWO OF THOSE SAME TOXIC COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THEIR NEW ROLE IN FRONT OF THE DAIS AS PAID CONSULTANTS FOR THIS ONCE FAILED AND POTENTIALLY NEW DISASTER. REMEMBER THAT OLD SAYING, FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE, SHAME ON ME. DON'T BE FOOLED, COUNCIL. YOU'RE HEARING FROM OTHER CONCERNED CITIZENS THIS EVENING WHO PRESENT THE TECHNICAL ARGUMENTS BETTER THAN I CAN, AND THERE'S PLENTY OF THEM, INCLUDING THE LACK OF INDEPENDENT SURVEYS AND STUDIES OF VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND ITS IMPACT, THE POTENTIAL DRAIN ON OUR WATER SUPPLY AND THE AQUIFER. IT'S CONCERNING. I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPERTY BEING ON FM 222431 OF LEANDER'S MOST DANGEROUS AND PROBLEMATIC THOROUGHFARES. CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED BEFORE THIS COUNCIL MANY TIMES ON THAT ROADWAY AND IT REMAINS TREACHEROUS, SO LET'S NOT AGGRAVATE THAT SITUATION FURTHER. I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU WILL VOTE NO ON THIS ITEM. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED YOU TO SERVE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, TERRY PUCKETT. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I SAID THAT INCORRECTLY. IF YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. HI. I AM FROM 801 OVERLOOK BEND IN OVERLOOK ESTATES. I HAVE BEEN THERE 25 YEARS. WE ARE 500FT FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. LEANDER IS 38MI■!S AND WE ARE RIGHT THE. IT IS GREAT FUN TO VISIT CABO. IT'S QUITE A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU CAN'T RETREAT TO THE PEACEFULNESS OF YOUR OWN HOME. TO GET AWAY FROM THE TRAFFIC, LIGHT, POLLUTION AND NOISE OF CABO. WE ARE ALREADY EXPERIENCING GROWTH IMPACTS WITH TRAFFIC CUTTING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET TO HORIZON PARK, WHERE THERE'S ALREADY BEEN ONE DEATH AND SOME NEAR MISSES. GINA ELLISON I WANT TO THANK HER AND HER TEAM FOR ANSWERING ALL OF MY QUESTIONS AND PROVIDING ME WITH HELPFUL INFO, BUT THERE ARE NO PLANS TO UPDATE THOSE ROADS OR THOSE TRAFFIC PATTERNS IN THE FORESEEABLE CITY PLANS. THIS IS GOING TO GET MUCH WORSE FOR US. I REALLY QUESTION IS A HOTEL WITH A CONVENTION CENTER BUILT AROUND A LAGOON REALLY GOING TO BE THE ATTRACTION TO POUR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO LEANDER, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S A BRAND NEW CONVENTION CENTER FOUR MILES UP THE ROAD WITH A MARRIOTT AND MASSIVE ANCHOR STORES. I KNOW SOME IN LEANDER HAVE EXPRESSED THAT THEY ARE EXCITED FOR THIS, BUT I SUSPECT THAT THEY DON'T LIVE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THIS DAILY. AND ACCORDING TO SOME FACEBOOK POSTS, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXCITED BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A FREE AMENITY FOR LEANDER RESIDENTS ACROSS LEANDER. TALKING WITH PEOPLE AND LOOKING AT FACEBOOK POSTS, THERE IS REAL CONCERN ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION. WELL, WATER IMPACTS, WASTEWATER EVAPORATION, DROUGHT, FLOODING, WATER PRESSURE, YEARS LONG WATER RESTRICTIONS AND COSTS. THIS DEVELOPMENT, ON TOP OF THE IMPACTS TO THE AQUIFER AND WELLS, IT IS GOING TO USE CITY WATER FOR EVAPORATION, HOTEL APARTMENTS, RESTAURANTS AND A CONVENTION CENTER. YET CITY LEADERS TELL US TIME AND AGAIN 
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THAT LEANDER DOES NOT HAVE A WATER ISSUE. BUT I HOPE THAT, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM YOUR PACKED ROOM, THAT WE'VE GOT A REALLY BIG DISCONNECT IN THAT REGARD. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE THAT TONIGHT. I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME OUTREACH AND SOME OPEN DISCUSSION AND SOME TRUST BUILDING ON WHERE WE STAND WITH WATER IN THE CITY. BUT I DO HOPE THAT ALL OF THIS INFORMATION TONIGHT GIVES YOU PAUSE, THAT WE DO NOT THINK THAT THIS IS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR OUR CITY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, TINA RITTER, TINA RITTER, GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. ALL RIGHT. OH, KAREN ROBERTSON. HI. IF YOU'D STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. HI. I'M A 610 SCENIC PATH IN LEANDER. WELL, I BELIEVE THAT A NEARBY BEACH ENTERTAINMENT AREA MAY INITIALLY SOUND FUN TO MANY PEOPLE. I STRONGLY URGE THE COUNCIL TO VOTE AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE CURRENT PROPOSED LOCATION IS SUITABLE FOR OUR ALREADY OVERCROWDED COMMUNITY. THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY HUGE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS CURRENTLY HAPPENING IN CEDAR PARK AND LEANDER, AND TRAFFIC CONGESTION IS INCREASING BY THE DAY WHEN THESE PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED, INCLUDING THE NEARBY 370 800 ZERO SQUARE FOOT SCHEELS MEGA STORE IN THE 117 ACRE NEW CEDAR VIEW DEVELOPMENT. DAILY TRAFFIC WILL MAKE IT INCREASINGLY HARDER TO GET FROM PLACE TO PLACE. IF LEANDER SPRING GETS APPROVED, DAILY TRAFFIC WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE INTO NEARBY RESIDENTIAL AREAS, INCLUDING MY NEIGHBORHOOD, OVERLOOK ESTATES, WHICH DOES NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS. THIS PAST OCTOBER, AS I WAS WATCHING MY KIDS RIDE THEIR BIKES, A SPEEDING CAR CAME WAY TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT TO MY FIVE YEAR OLD SON. I IMMEDIATELY CONTACTED THE LEANDER POLICE DEPARTMENT TO STATE MY SAFETY CONCERN, AND DEPUTY ARREDONDO CONDUCTED A TRAFFIC STUDY. HE NOTED THAT HE DID SEE A VERY HIGH FLOW OF VEHICLES, AND HE DID BELIEVE THAT 30 WAS MUCH TOO HIGH FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO CONTACT THE CITY REGARDING REQUESTS FOR SPEED BUMPS AND WARNING SIGNS. OUR RESIDENTS ALREADY BELIEVE THAT WE ARE IN NEED OF A REDUCTION IN THE SPEED LIMIT, AND THE CREATION OF LEANDER SPRINGS WOULD ONLY MAKE THAT SITUATION MORE UNSAFE. ASIDE FROM TRAFFIC CONCERNS, THE NOISE LEVEL OF 12 YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT, AND ALSO THE SOUND OF WEEKLY CONCERTS AT THE VENUE WOULD BE HEARD IN OUR IN OUR NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS. ONCE THAT'S BUILT AND IT'S VERY CONCERNING, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT MIGHT CAUSE OUR RESIDENTS TO START LEAVING. FORMER MAYOR HILL HAS SAID THAT THE LEANDER SPRINGS PROJECT WOULD PUT LEANDER QUOTE ON THE MAP, UNQUOTE, AND INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES. HOWEVER, IN SPEAKING WITH MANY RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY, WE DID NOT MOVE HERE TO BE PUT ON THE MAP. WE MOVED HERE TO ENJOY QUIET, PEACEFUL LIVING, SURROUNDED BY A MODEST AMOUNT OF AMENITIES BUT NOT OVERRUN BY THEM. I TRUTHFULLY, TRUTHFULLY WORRY THAT OUR PROPERTY VALUES WOULD ACTUALLY DECLINE ONCE TRAFFIC AND NOISE CONGESTION BEGIN TO TAKE OVER, AND THAT OUR RESIDENTS MIGHT MOVE AWAY. MORE AND MORE WILDLIFE ARE COMING INTO OUR BACKYARDS AS HOMES ARE BEING DESTROYED BY NEW CONSTRUCTION. I WOULD LOVE PERSONALLY TO SEE LITTLE THE LITTLE REMAINING OPEN LAND THAT WE HAVE BE LEFT ALONE OR BE TURNED INTO LANDSCAPED GREEN AREAS, INCLUDING PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS. HOWEVER, I REALIZE IF THAT'S NOT A POSSIBILITY, I BELIEVE THAT A FEW SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES WOULD MUCH BETTER BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY THAN ANOTHER MASSIVE ATTRACTION. IT IS TIME FOR US TO PRIORITIZE QUALITY OF LIFE OVER QUANTITY OF AMENITIES, AND A SOCIETY WHERE MANY ARE ALWAYS DEMANDING MORE AND MORE AND MORE. IT IS TIME FOR LEANDER TO LEAD THE MESSAGE THAT LESS IS REALLY MORE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, DAVID REEVES. THANK YOU. IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DOCTOR DAVID REEVES AND I LIVE AT 804 OVERLOOK BEND IN OVERLOOK ESTATES. AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS, I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 25 YEARS. 
          WHEN I MOVED HERE, THE SIGN OF POPULATION TO LEANDER SAID 3000. NOW, WHEN I WAS TALKING TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THEY SAID, WELL, IT'S MORE LIKE 90,000 NOW. I DIDN'T MOVE HERE FOR 90,000. OKAY, SO I'M WORRIED ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROJECT AND I'M OPPOSED STRONGLY AGAINST IT. ONE IS THE TRAFFIC IMPACT OF ONE A, THREE A THE ACCESS ROAD. ANOTHER IS CUT THROUGH FROM 183 A THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD OVER TO HORIZON PARK BOULEVARD. WHEN I FIRST 
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MOVED HERE, I MIGHT GET A CAR EVERY, YOU KNOW, 2 OR 3 HOURS MAYBE. NOW I'M ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          I SEE PROBABLY 2 TO 400 CARS ON MY GO BY MY CORNER LOT. UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE TERRY AND JIM PUCKETT, THEY LIVE DOWN THE CUL DE SAC. THEY DON'T SEE AS MUCH. BUT KAREN AND HER HUSBAND CERTAINLY DO BECAUSE THEY'RE ON ANOTHER CORNER LOT. WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS. THE DEVELOPER CHOSE NOT TO PUT THOSE IN. THE OTHER THING THAT REALLY WORRIES ME IS WHEN THEY'RE CUTTING THROUGH OVER TO HORIZON PARK BOULEVARD, LITERALLY, I HAVE GONE HOME FROM HEB UP HORIZON PARK BOULEVARD, WHICH IS A TWO LANE STREET. NO, NO LIGHTS. IT'S RIGHT OVER THERE BY HORIZON LAKE WHERE THEY BUILT ALL THE NEW HOMES THERE. AND I'VE SEEN KIDS RIDING SCOOTERS AT NIGHT WITH NO HELMETS IN THE DARK. HOW MUCH WORSE IS THIS GOING TO BE WHEN WE HAVE ALL THIS TRAFFIC THAT MIGHT COME FROM THIS VENUE? YOU KNOW, I DON'T CARE HOW MANY TAX DOLLARS ARE AT STAKE, THAT AMOUNT OF TAX DOLLARS IS NEVER WORTH ONE CHILD'S LIFE. SO I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE WAY I THINK THIS TOWN SHOULD GO. IT'S DEFINITELY NOT THE WAY I CHOSE IT. WHEN I CAME HERE WHEN IT WAS 3000, I MOVED OUT FROM AUSTIN BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO LIVE OUT IN THAT AUSTIN PLACE. THE OTHER THING I HAVE A LITTLE QUESTION ABOUT IS THE LAGOON LAGOON. YOU KNOW, THE WATER, WATER, WATER, I GET THAT. OKAY. AND I, I, I AGREE WITH THE WELL OWNERS, MAN, THAT'S THAT'S SCARY. I MEAN, I CAN'T EVEN WATER MY, MY YARD ANYMORE. 
          BESIDES, ONE TIME A WEEK WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, I WATER AS MUCH AS I WANT. YOU KNOW, MY WATER BILL WAS HIGH, BUT I DIDN'T CARE. HOW ARE WE GOING TO SANITIZE THIS WATER? IS IT IS IT GOING TO BE SANITIZED? IS IT GOING TO BE CIRCULATED? THINK ABOUT STANDING WATER SOURCES IN YOUR BACKYARD. HAVE YOU NOTICED ANY MOSQUITOES THIS YEAR? I CERTAINLY DO, I'M MISTING SYSTEMS. I HAVE THINGS TO ZAP THEM. I HAVE EVERYTHING OUT THERE AND I STILL HAVE A LOT OF THAT. HOW IS IT GOING TO BE HANDLED THERE? LASTLY, I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN AUSTIN. I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA EITHER. I WANT TO HAVE A NICE GREEN LAWN. AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE CHILDREN BEING JEOPARDIZED WITH THEIR SAFETY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. ROBERT. I'M SORRY. PATRICK ROBERTSON. THANK YOU. IF YOU'D STATE YOUR ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. YEAH. HI. MY NAME IS PATRICK ROBERTSON. I LIVE AT 610 SCENIC PATH. THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS. ZERO. THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT KEEPS COMING UP IN THIS DISCUSSION AND IN RESEARCH ON THIS TOPIC FROM THE DEVELOPERS. IT'S ZERO WASTE, ZERO CHEMICALS, ZERO CITY WATER USE. THIS IS THE MARKETING CLAIMS ABOUT LEANDER SPRINGS LAGOON. BUT LIKE A LOT OF MARKETING THESE DAYS, IT'S JUST A RIPPLE INSTEAD OF A WAVE. 
          PART OF MY JOB IS TREATING DRINKING WATER, WASTEWATER, AND MAINTAINING SWIMMING POOLS. 
          I'VE GOT A CLASS C SURFACE WATER TREATMENT LICENSE AND A CLASS D WASTEWATER LICENSE FROM T-C-E-Q. IN MY RESEARCH, LOOKING AT THE ISLAND PROPOSAL AND TECHNOLOGY, WHICH I WILL SAY IS VERY PROMISING BUT UNTESTED, THEY PLAN ON UTILIZING THESE THESE TECHNOLOGIES. THESE CLAIMS ARE NOT QUITE TRUE. FIRST OFF, NO TREATED WATER IS ZERO WASTE. 
          YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE WASTE TREATED OR OTHERWISE YOU'RE GOING TO DEVELOP SOME SLUDGE. YOU GOT TO GET OUT OF THERE. YEAH. SO THERE'S NO ZERO WASTE. HECK TO DO THIS LEGALLY, ISLAND HAS TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT FROM T-C-E-Q TO BE ABLE TO DISCHARGE 1.4 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER TREATED, TREATED WASTEWATER TO BE FAIR AND STORM WATER A DAY INTO THE WATERSHED. ZERO CHEMICALS SOUNDS NICE. BUT DSHS, WHO REGULATES PUBLIC POOLS, SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CHEMICAL RESIDUAL IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT NO BACTERIA CAN GROW IN THERE, NO MATTER HOW FAST YOUR CYCLE EATING THAT THING, ANYBODY CAN BRING A BACTERIA IN THERE AND IT CAN START SPREADING. AND ZERO CITY WATER. WELL, THAT'S BEEN HOTLY DEBATED NOW, HASN'T IT? THIS 1ST MAY BE TRUE, BUT AND I'M GLAD THAT THE CITY EVENTUALLY REJECTED THAT 200,000 GALLON A DAY CITY BACKUP PLAN IN 2025. AND BUT THANK YOU FOR THE, THE, THE NON-ESSENTIAL DESIGNATION RIGHT NOW. MORE ON THAT LATER. ZERO CLAIMS ARE NOT THE ONLY ZEROS THAT BOTHER ME. TAKE THIS FOR INSTANCE. NINE MONTHS AGO IN THE LAGO MARK COMMUNITY FOR LOT FOR NINE MONTHS IN THE LAGOON MARK COMMUNITY IN TEXAS CITY, ZERO PEOPLE GOT TO USE THEIR PRIVATE 12 ACRE LAGOON. THEY PAID FEES FOR. THIS IS BECAUSE OF POOR CONSTRUCTION AND POOR MANAGEMENT. NOT NECESSARILY SUGGESTING THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO LEANDER SPRINGS, BUT THAT IS A POSSIBILITY AND THAT'S A LONG TIME FOR PEOPLE TO TO TO NOT HAVE THE AMENITIES THAT THEY PAID FOR. BUT THE BIGGEST ZERO THAT BOTHERS ME IS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT IS ZERO OVERSIGHT. BELL, MILAM, BURNET, HAYS, PARTS OF LAND PARCELS AND TRAVIS COUNTY ALL 
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HAVE GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, WHICH MONITOR AQUIFERS SO THEY DON'T RUN DRY. 
          THEY LIMIT PUMP. THEY. THEY PERMIT. THEY LIMIT PUMPING. THEY PROTECT WATER LEVELS. THEY MONITOR POLLUTION. THEY PREVENT WASTE CHARGE FEES AND LEVY FINES. WILLIAMSON COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE A G, C, D, SO THAT IS VERY CONVENIENT FOR THEM, VERY CONVENIENT FOR THEM TO HAVE A WELL THAT THEY CAN JUST PUMP THROUGH THAT IS NOT MONITORED, THAT IS NOT WATCHED. IT IS ABOUT ALL THEY WANT ALL DAY. THERE'S NO METER, THERE'S NO INDEPENDENT AUTHORITY TO SAY HOW MUCH THEY'RE USING. AND THE KICKER IS ZERO. THEY WILL PAY ZERO FOR THE WATER THAT THEY'RE PUMPING. SO IF THERE IS ZERO RESTRICTION AND ZERO OVERSIGHT ON THIS PROJECT, USE OF THE TRINITY RIVER, THERE IS ZERO REASON TO SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. AND SOME PEOPLE ARE SNAPPING. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. BETTY SIGNS. BETTY SIGNS. IS SHE HERE? NO. OKAY. SOMEONE CALL YOUR NAME. THEY CAN HEAR THE TV IS OUT THERE. YEAH. OKAY. ROBIN STEVENS. HI. IF YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND 1008 OVERLOOK BEND. LET'S TALK IMPACT. I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT I AM OPPOSED TO IT AS IT IS PRESENTED. 
          CURRENTLY, MY FAMILY AND I HAVE LIVED ON OVERLOOK BEND FOR 20 YEARS, CREATING OUR OWN BACKYARD OASIS DURING THAT TIME. I KNOW MANY PEOPLE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE LIVING NEXT TO IT. SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW CAN YOU HAVE YOUR OASIS GETAWAY WITHOUT ROBBING ME OF MINE? HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER TO RESPONSIBLY PLAN THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE ALL LIVE, WORK AND PLAY IN? WE ALL KNOW THAT WATER IS A HUGE ISSUE. 
          CITY WATER WILL STILL BE REQUIRED FOR BUSINESSES AND APARTMENTS, AS YOU'VE HEARD, AND REGARDLESS OF WHERE THAT WATER COMES FROM, THERE'S ALSO THE CONCERN OF THE LAGOON. 
          INCREASING THE ACREAGE OF PARKLAND WOULD BENEFIT WILDLIFE AND REDUCE WATER USAGE. 
          XERISCAPING AND RAINWATER COLLECTION SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN MENTIONED. THIS WOULD BE A RESPONSIBLE DIRECTION TO GO WHEN PLANNING ANY DEVELOPMENT. JARRETT SULLIVAN, THE DEVELOPER OF THE GABRIEL APARTMENTS, WHICH ARE LOCATED AT THE END OF MY STREET, REACHED OUT TO RESIDENTS EARLY ON TO LISTEN TO OUR CONCERNS. BUT HE DIDN'T JUST LISTEN. HE TOOK ACTION AND MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO HIS PLAN BY REDUCING THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS FROM 3 TO 2 STORIES CLOSEST TO OUR HOMES. THIS ACTUALLY COST HIM FUTURE REVENUE, BUT HE WAS WILLING TO WORK WITH THOSE WHO WOULD BE LEFT LIVING WITH THE IMPACT OF HIS PROJECT LONG AFTER HE WAS GONE. ARE YOU IN THE DEVELOPERS WILLING TO DO THE SAME TO LIMIT THE HEIGHT OF PROPOSED BUILDINGS CLOSEST TO OUR HOMES, SO THAT OUR SANCTUARIES ARE NOT OVERSHADOWED BY UGLY MAN MADE BUILDINGS INSTEAD OF MAJESTIC OAK TREES? WHAT ABOUT THE NOISE IMPACT? I CAN HEAR CONCERTS AT VFW SEVERAL MILES AWAY. THIS WILL BE NEXT DOOR TO ME. SO WILL YOU LIMIT THE DECIBELS OR REQUIRE A SOUND BUFFER WALL TO BE BUILT TO KEEP US FROM HEARING IT DAY IN AND DAY OUT? WHAT ABOUT TRAFFIC? WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THAT FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WALK OUR DOGS AT NIGHT ON STREETS WITHOUT SIDEWALKS. WILL WE BE ABLE TO DO THAT SAFELY? WHAT ABOUT LIGHTING AT NIGHT? HOW WILL THAT IMPACT NEIGHBORS, WILDLIFE AND NIGHTTIME SKY? CAN WE HAVE OUTDOOR LIGHTING PROPOSITIONS SUCH AS INTERNATIONAL DARK SKY COMMUNITY? LIBERTY HILL WAS THE FIRST CITY IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY TO ADOPT THIS. PERHAPS THIS DEVELOPMENT COULD LIGHT THE WAY FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS IN LEANDER. I REALIZE DEVELOPMENT WILL COME. RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT WORKS TOGETHER SO THAT THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ARE GREATLY REDUCED OR ELIMINATED FOR THOSE WHO LIVE BY IT AND WITH IT IN THEIR COMMUNITY. LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS SO THAT TOGETHER WE CAN MAKE THIS THE BEST IT CAN BE AND SOMETHING WE CAN ALL LIVE WITH. AFTER ALL, SOME OF US ACTUALLY WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO OUR HOMES. WHY SHOULD YOUR OASIS GETAWAY SPOIL MINE OF 20 YEARS? THANK YOU, THANK YOU. JEREMY VICKERS. CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. JEREMY VICKERS, 135 WOODLAND TRAIL. LEANDER MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JEREMY VICKERS. I'M PRESIDENT OF LAKEWOOD COUNTRY ESTATES LANDOWNER ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING APPROXIMATELY 100 LANDOWNERS ABOUT THREE MILES FROM THE PROPOSED LOCATION, EVERY ONE OF WHOM DEPENDS ON PRIVATE WELL WATER FOR THEIR HOUSEHOLD WATER. THEY REPEATEDLY TELL US THAT CONCERNS ABOUT GROUNDWATER ARE BASED ON FEAR RATHER THAN SCIENCE. I DISAGREE IT'S EXPERIENCE. EXCUSE ME. THIS IS A PRIVATE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT DESIGNED TO MAKE MONEY. THAT'S FINE. BRING ON THE MIXED USE, BUT DUMP THE LAGOON WHERE THE DEVELOPER IS 
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ASKING TO PROFIT FROM A SHARED GROUNDWATER RESOURCE. SO A FEW SIMPLE QUESTIONS. IF THIS CLOSED LOOP WATER SYSTEM IS TRULY A SUSTAINABLE AND SUPERIOR AS ADVERTISED, WHY DOES THIS PROJECT NEED ITS OWN? WELL, INSTEAD OF SIMPLY USING CITY WATER, WE'RE TOLD THE MODEL PREDICTS LESS THAN ONE INCH OF DRAWDOWN, THREE MILES, 30 YEARS, DROUGHT PUMPING, YADA YADA, ZERO IMPACT. AGAIN, THAT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY CLAIM THAT BASED ON AN OUTDATED STUDY THAT I THINK WAS IN HAYS COUNTY, THAT'S ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PLACE. THEY SAY THEY EVALUATED APPROXIMATELY 140 LOCAL WELLS. HOW MANY ARE 7 OR 800FT DEEP LIKE MINE? WHAT HAPPENS DURING PROLONGED DROUGHT? BECAUSE THIS ISN'T THEORETICAL TO US, IT'S VERY REAL. MY OWN WELL IS ABOUT 800FT. SO WHEN THE DEVELOPER TALKS ABOUT PRIVATE WELLS IN THIS AREA, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL WELLS THAT EXIST. I'M EXPERIENCED TELLING MY FAMILY, HOLD OFF ON DISHES OR SHOWERS WHEN WE'VE RUN DRY AND HAD TO WAIT ON DELIVERY OR FOR THE FOR THE RECHARGE TO TAKE PLACE. I LIVE OUTSIDE THE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARY, BUT THE AQUIFER DOES NOT. THE TRINITY AQUIFER DOESN'T STOP AT THE LEANDER CITY LIMIT, SO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. WORK WITH US LIKE WE ARE ON LAKEWOOD WATER WATER DAM THREE. WE OWN THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT LAKE AND WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY TO TRY TO SOLVE THAT. YOU KNOW, ANOTHER STATEMENT FROM THE DEVELOPER THAT I THINK DESERVES CLARIFICATION. THEY SAY COMMERCIAL PROJECTS OPERATE UNDER CITY, STATE AND GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION OVERSIGHT. AS HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, WILLIAMSON COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. SO I'D LIKE THE APPLICANT TO TELL THIS COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY AND ON THE RECORD, WHAT GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION ENTITY HAS JURISDICTION OVER THIS? WELL, WHO MONITORS IT? WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THEM STOP PUMPING WHEN OUR WELLS ARE AFFECTED? WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO TURN OFF THE PUMP? THE DEVELOPER REPEATEDLY EMPHASIZES THAT ITS CONSULTANTS ARE INDEPENDENT AND PROPOSAL FULLY TRANSPARENT. BUT WHEN FORMER ELECTED OFFICIALS WORKING FOR THE APPLICANT, TRANSPARENCY SHOULD MATTER MORE. IT IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, YOU KNOW, 3 MILLION A YEAR. THAT'S INSANE. 3 MILLION GALLONS A YEAR. YOU KNOW, I GUESS TRANSPARENCY SOUNDS A LITTLE BETTER WHEN IT'S EXPRESSED IN GALLONS PER MINUTE, 3 MILLION. SO I'M ASKING YOU FOR SOMETHING VERY REASONABLE. DON'T ALLOW THE LAGOON, BECAUSE IF THE PROFIT BELONGS TO THE DEVELOPER, THE GROUNDWATER RISK BELONGS TO THE NEIGHBORS. THE CITY COULD FIND ITSELF DEALING WITH POLITICAL, FINANCIAL AND POTENTIAL LEGAL CONSEQUENCES AFTERWARD. THANK YOU. AMAR AHMED. HI. IF YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS AMAR AHMED AND I LIVE IN 541 COLVIN BEND, LEANDER, RIGHT NEXT TO THE LEANDER SPRINGS PROPERTY. I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT FOR MY FAMILY AND FOR SEVERAL OTHER NEIGHBORS WHO COULD NOT BE HERE, INCLUDING HOMEOWNER ONLY OVERPASS SPINDRIFT LANE, WHOSE PROPERTIES ARE DIRECTLY ON THIS DEVELOPMENT. WESTERN BOUNDARY. 
          I HAVE THREE YOUNG CHILDREN. LIKE A LOT OF KIDS ON OUR STREET, THEY RIDE BIKES AND PLAY OUTSIDE DURING THE EVENING TIME. COMMON BEND IS A QUIET STREET AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY IT MATTERS TO US. OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS TRAFFIC. IF COMMON BOND IS OPENED AS A DIRECT CONNECTION TO 183 A FRONTAGE ROAD, OUR STREET BECOMES A SHORTCUT FOR COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC MOVING TO THAT AREA, AND THE FRONTAGE ROAD SPEEDS RIGHT THROUGH THE PLACE WHERE OUR CHILDREN PLAY. THAT IS NOT A MINOR INCONVENIENCE. THAT'S A SAFETY RISK. SO MY FIRST REQUEST IS SIMPLE PLEASE DO NOT OPEN COMMENT BEND AS A THROUGH TRAFFIC TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD. I ALSO WANT TO RAISE CONCERNS SHARED ACROSS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. ON BEHALF OF MY NEIGHBOR ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY, I ASK YOU TO PROTECT THE EXISTING WOODEN GREENBELT BUFFER BETWEEN OUR HOMES AND. THIS PROJECT KEPT NATURAL. NOT CLEAR FOR RETENTION PONDS OR ANY SUCH AREAS. AND FOR ALL OF US LIVING NEXT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, I ASK THE COUNCIL TO ATTACH BINDING CONDITIONS BEFORE ANY APPROVAL IF REQUIRED, FOR DARK SKY DOWNWARD LIGHTING, SO THE PARKING LOTS AND LAGOON DO NOT LIGHT UP OUR BEDROOMS AT NIGHT. STRICT NOISE, CURFEWS ON OUTDOOR SPEAKERS, AND EVENTS MEASURED AT OUR PROPERTY LINES. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S POSSIBLE DRAINAGE THAT DOES NOT PUSH RUNOFF AND FLOODING INTO OUR HOMES ENOUGH ON STREET PARKING, SO OVERFLOW DOES NOT FILL OUR STREETS, WHICH IS ALSO NOT POSSIBLE. AND REAL CONSTRUCTION PROTECTION SET HOURS THUS CONTROLS TRUCK ROTATING FENCING BECAUSE THIS COULD GO ON FOR YEARS, AND I DON'T WANT MY KIDS TO SUFFER BECAUSE OF THIS CONSTRUCTION. I WANT TO BE 
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CLEAR, I'M NOT AGAINST LEANDER GROWING. I JUST WANT OUR CITY TO THRIVE. I AM ONLY ASKING THAT IT DOES NOT GROW AT THE EXPENSE OF THE SAFETY AND PEACE OF MY KIDS. YOUR KIDS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. CAN I GET YOU TO CONFIRM SOMETHING? ARE YOU FOR THE ITEM OR AGAINST IT? THAT'S A TRICKY ONE. IF THEY CAN BIND ALL THE CONDITIONS, IT SAYS FORCE. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE AGAINST YES IN THE WAY THAT IT'S PRESENTED RIGHT NOW. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST CLARIFYING I AM FOR THIS ITEM. BUT IF THEY CAN BIND ALL THOSE CONDITIONS. OKAY, SO BUT I'M AGAINST THAT COMMON BOND CONNECTION. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HI, NEIGHBOR. HI. HELLO. IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. HELLO. MY NAME IS. HI. I LIVE AT 2013 COTTON FARM TRAIL. LEANDER. AS YOU CAN SEE, I COME HERE WITHOUT A BLUE SHIRT AND WITHOUT SPEECH. OH, I'M COMING HERE BECAUSE I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. WHY? I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE MY HUSBAND AND I, AT A RETIREMENT AGE, AND WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A CONDO FOR APARTMENT WHERE WE CAN LIVE WITHOUT THE MINUTES, WHERE WE CAN GO OUT TO THE BEACH WITHOUT HAVE TO DRIVE FOUR HOURS, TAKE OUR CHILDREN TO A WATER PARK, TO THE BEACH WITHOUT HAVING TO DRIVE SUCH A LONG WAY. BECAUSE THE OLDER YOU GET, THE HARDER TO DRIVE A LONG WAY. WE LOOK FOR A PLACE WHERE WE CAN GO OUT AND SWIMMING IN THE MORNING, EAT AT THE RESTAURANT AND MAYBE GO DANCING AT NIGHT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR RETIREMENT AGE. LIKE ME AND MY HUSBAND, WE HOPE TO SEE MORE CONDO, MORE PLACE FOR RETIREES HERE IN LEANDER. MOST OF THE PLACES AROUND HERE HAVE TOWNHOMES WITH TWO STORY OR YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN OLD AGE APARTMENT AND WE'RE NOT READY FOR THAT. WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF LIFE IN US, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. 
          LOOKING AT THE JOB THAT OUR TEENAGER CAN GET. LOOK AT IT. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, LEANDER, DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL PROJECTS AND SALES TAX AND ALL THAT. BRING IN THE MONEY AND IT HELP YOU LOOK AT KALAHARI. A LOT OF PEOPLE BUY HOUSES AROUND THERE AND WE HAVE AIRBNB. THEY HAVE AIRBNB. I HAVE CLIENTS THAT HAVE AIRBNB BECAUSE OF KALAHARI, AND THEY MAKE 30, 40,000 A YEAR JUST FROM AIRBNB RENTAL. AND I AM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I HOPE IT COME INTO LEANDER. THANK YOU. MANU SIDHU. I'M SORRY SHE LEFT. OKAY. GOT IT. THANK YOU. JENNY SCHLUTER AND I APOLOGIZE IF I SAID THAT WRONG. SCHLUTER THANK YOU. JUST STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 123. SORRY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? 123 LAKEWOOD TRAIL, LEANDER, TEXAS PART OF LAKEWOOD COUNTRY ESTATES. SO I'M A HOMEOWNER AND I'M A WELL OWNER. I'VE LIVED IN THE AUSTIN AREA OVER 50 YEARS. I GREW UP HERE. I, I'M VERY FAMILIAR. I'VE LIVED IN LEANDER, SPECIFICALLY THE LAST 25 YEARS, THOSE LAST 25 YEARS, MY HOMES, TWO DIFFERENT HOMES HAVE BOTH BEEN ON WELLS WHEN I WAS IN TEN YEARS, 115 YEARS, WE WERE IN AND ON THE TRINITY. SO WE DEPEND ON THAT FOR OUR HOME, WATER, DRINKING WATER, SHOWER, SEPTIC, EVERYTHING. I LIVE ABOUT A COUPLE OF MILES SOUTH OF WHERE THE LAGOON IS GOING TO BE, OR THIS THE LEANDER SPRINGS AND I HAVE ABOUT 100 NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ALSO ON WELLS AS WELL. SO WHEN LEANDER SPRINGS TELLS US PUBLICLY, DON'T WORRY, WE'RE NOT USING CITY WATERS, I FIND THAT ARGUMENT INSULTING. IT'S OUR GROUNDWATER. IT'S ALL OF OUR WATER. I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT DECLINING GROUNDWATER LOOKS LIKE. I DON'T NEED TO READ THEIR STUDIES. I'VE PERSONALLY PAID AND HAD TO HAVE OUR WEALTH DROPPED AT LEAST THREE TIMES THAT I REMEMBER BETWEEN THE TWO HOMES THAT WE'VE HAD. SO I'VE SEEN IT GO DOWN. I'VE SEEN IT WHERE AUGUST COMES AROUND AND WE'RE ALL HOLDING OUR BREATHS OF IS OUR WELL GOING TO STOP? IS ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO TO REDRILL IT, DROP IT? ANY OF THOSE EXPENSES? I'VE PROBABLY SPENT OVER $50,000 IN THE LAST 25 YEARS, AND THAT'S PROBABLY GETTING OUT CHEAP ON WELL AND WELL MAINTENANCE OR WELL SERVICING OR PUTTING IN A WELL. 
          WHEN THE WELL GOES DOWN, THERE'S NOT ANOTHER FAUCET FOR US TO TURN ON. WE DON'T HAVE CITY WATER. THERE'S NOT EVEN CITY PIPES OUT THERE. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE AS FAR AS, AS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD, EVERY TEXT IS, WELL, OWNER KNOWS THE FEELING OF BEING CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR WATER RUNNING OUT. THAT'S WHY I DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR MODELS. I DON'T BELIEVE THEM BECAUSE I'VE SEEN DIFFERENTLY IN 25 YEARS. I ALSO KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF STUDIES THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT SHOWS THAT THE TRINITY HAS BEEN DROPPING AND THERE'S LESS WATER AVAILABLE. EVERY INCH MATTERS ON OUR WELL, EVERYBODY AROUND HERE KNOWS 
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THAT WE'RE ALSO, TEXAS IS GROWING AT AN EXTRAORDINARY RATE. WE'RE ADDING HOMES, BUSINESSES AND MASSIVE INDUSTRIAL WATER USERS. IT'S BECOMING MORE VALUABLE, NOT LESS. WE'RE NOT GETTING MORE WATER. IT'S WHAT WE HAVE IS WHAT WE HAVE. WE BETTER USE IT WISELY. SO OUR RESPONSE SHOULD PROBABLY NOT BE, LET'S BUILD A LUXURY FOUR ACRE LAGOON. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE, ESPECIALLY IN CENTRAL TEXAS AND THE OTHER RESIDENTS OF WHEN THEY'RE BEING ASKED TO WATER ONCE A WEEK. HOW THAT FEELS. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT REALLY BOTHERS ME IS THEIR MARKETING TALKING POINTS. THEY'RE COPY AND PASTE. I THINK SOME OF IT'S AN AI BOT. THEIR RESPONSES TO US THIS WEEK ALONE AND THEIR PUBLIC POST AND THEIR ADS CALLS US HATERS, CALLS US EMOTIONAL CALLS. IT'S MYTH. LIKE, GO LOOK AT THEIR GO LOOK AT LEANDER FACEBOOK PAGE RIGHT NOW AFTER THIS MEETING, THEY'VE GOT ACTIVE POSTS UP THERE WHERE THEY HAVE CALLED US HATERS TWICE THIS WEEK BECAUSE WE'RE CONCERNED CITIZENS. SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. DESHRAJ SINGH. HOW ARE YOU? IF YOU'D STATE YOUR ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE TO. 21 STREET. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF LEANDER FOR THE LAST, WHAT, EIGHT, NINE YEARS? WE ACTUALLY OWN A CHILD CARE CENTER RIGHT NEXT DOOR HERE. I'M ACTUALLY SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT, AND THE REASON I'M SUPPORTING IS LOOK AT THE WHOLE LEANDER BASE. WE ARE FULL OF HOUSEHOLDS, BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY SUSTAINABLE OTHER REVENUE STREAMS COMING THAN THE PROPERTY TAX. I LOOKED ACTUALLY IN OUR BIGGEST EMPLOYER IN THE WHOLE CITY OF LEANDER IS LEANDER ISD. YOU KNOW, THOSE ISDS ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH ALL THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS WHICH ARE BEING BUILT OUTSIDE LEANDER. SO ALL THE CITIES ALL AROUND US ARE DOING DEVELOPMENT. ALL THE TESLAS ARE GOING TO THE BASTROP COUNTY, AND ALL THE COSTCOS ARE GOING TO THE LIBERTY AND ALL THE DATA CENTERS. SO I'M AFRAID OUR CITY OF LEANDER IS GOING TO BE LIKE ONE OF THOSE OLD TOWNS RIGHT NEXT TO ROUTE 66, WHICH IS NOBODY THERE. NOBODY WANT TO LIVE BECAUSE ALL YOU HAVE IS HOUSEHOLD. SO WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT AS TO HOW DO WE ACTUALLY GROW OUR COMMUNITY, BRING MORE EMPLOYMENT AND BRING MORE SALES REVENUE. THIS IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS. SO YES, I UNDERSTAND THE WATER ISSUES. I UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC ISSUES, BUT WE HAVE SOLUTIONS FOR ALL OF THOSE. WE KNOW HOW TO REDUCE NOISE FROM 183 A WHERE THE CARS ARE ZOOMING AT 90MPH. SO WE WE NEED TO ACTUALLY GO DO THOSE RESPONSIVE DEVELOPMENT, FIGURE OUT THE SOLUTION FOR ALL THESE PROBLEMS, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO TURN AROUND AND TELL THESE DEVELOPERS TO GO AND JUST LET THEM LOOSE TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. THEY STILL ARE GOING TO BE UNDER ALL THOSE RESTRICTIONS. SO PLEASE SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE BIG, LARGE EMPLOYERS WE'RE GOING TO BRING TO THE CITY. THANKS. THANK YOU. AUSTIN STELLING. IF YOU'D STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. YES, 317 HARBORS LANE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I LIVE IN HORIZON LAKE HERE IN LEANDER, RIGHT NEXT TO THE LEANDER SPRINGS DEVELOPMENT. AND TRANSPARENTLY. THIS IS MY FIRST DAY IN CITY COUNCIL MEETING, BUT. AND I DON'T NORMALLY SPEAK UP AT EVENTS LIKE THIS, BUT I FELT IT WAS NECESSARY GIVEN MY PASSION FOR THE PROJECT. I THINK THIS PASSION IS ACTUALLY SHARED BY MANY, THOUGH IT MAY NOT FEEL LIKE THAT MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS, FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES AREN'T HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY HAD OTHER OBLIGATIONS TO ATTEND TO. SO MY ASK IS, LET ME BE A SHARED VOICE FOR THEM TONIGHT. 
          I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE LEANDER SPRINGS PROJECT, AND HONESTLY, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GOT ME EXCITED ABOUT BUILDING A HOME HERE IN LEANDER. MY FAMILY AND I ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT IT COULD BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY POOLS, ESPECIALLY THE PARK SPACES, TAX REVENUE, CALL CENTER, EVENT SPACES, AND SO MUCH MORE WHERE WE GET TO BUILD MEMORIES AND SHARE TIME TOGETHER AS A FAMILY. AND YEAH, LOTS OF JOBS AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. BUT I SPECIFICALLY FELT COMPELLED TO SPEAK UP TONIGHT AS I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING THIS PROJECT AMONGST MY COMMUNITY AND FOUND THAT MANY WHO SUPPORT THE PROJECT ARE QUIET SUPPORTERS. AND FRANKLY, SOME FACE BACKLASH ONLINE FOR SHARING THEIR OPINION. THE OPPOSITION SOMETIMES IS UNPROFESSIONAL, LITTLE FIERCE, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY DESERVES TO BE HEARD. AND SO, GIVEN SOME OF THE NEGATIVITY I FOUND ONLINE, IT'S MY BELIEF THAT SOMETIMES THOSE THAT OPPOSE THE PROJECT CAN OFTEN BE THE LOUDEST. THEY SAY SOMETIMES THE SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE. I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY AGREES ON EVERY DETAIL OF THE PROJECT, AND THAT'S TOTALLY FAIR AND EXPECTED. AND I BELIEVE WE CAN ALL AGREE LEANDER HAS CHANGED. IT'S GROWING FAST, AND PROJECTS LIKE THESE ARE WHERE WE CAN 
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INVEST IN SOMETHING FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN ALL BENEFIT FROM. MY MAIN CONCERN IS DEFINITELY WATER, AS YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT, ITS PRIMARY CONCERN FROM THE COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THESE STUDIES, BUT IT APPEARS TO BE DISPROVEN BY SOME, NOT BY OTHERS I DON'T REALLY KNOW. BUT MY SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT DOES COME WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT THESE REPORTS ARE DIRECTIONALLY ACCURATE AND VALID. AND MY REQUEST WOULD BE YOUR TEAM VALIDATES AND VERIFIES THESE CLAIMS FROM THE STUDIES. SO MY REQUEST FOR Y'ALL TONIGHT IS TO TAKE ALL OPINIONS INTO CONSIDERATION AS EVERYONE DESERVES TO BE HEARD. 
          WHEN YOU IMAGINE THE FUTURE OF LEANDER, WE WANT TO INVEST INTO PROJECTS THAT MAKE OUR COMMUNITY UNIQUE AS IT GROWS WITH GROWTH IS GOING TO BRING CHANGE, AND WE TRUST THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PLANT THE SEEDS TO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY BETTER AND BETTER EACH YEAR. THANK YOU. 
          Y'ALL ARE TROOPERS. THANKS FOR HEARING US OUT TONIGHT. WELL THANK YOU AND YOU MADE IT. YOU HAVE YOUR FIRST CITY COUNCIL UNDER YOUR BELT. TRICIA WILSON. I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIR. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A WHILE. THANK YOU FOR WAITING. JUST STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. YES, I'M AT 1524 ASPEN WALL COVE, AND I'LL MAKE IT BRIEF. SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE MADE SUCH GREAT POINTS BEFORE ME, BUT I AM STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT. I HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. THE TRINITY AQUIFER IS OBVIOUSLY NOT AN ENDLESS WATER SOURCE. I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE DEVELOPER. LEANDER SPRINGS HAS BEEN SUED SEVERAL TIMES AND GROUND HASN'T EVEN BEEN BROKEN. IN A RECENT LAWSUIT, LEANDER SPRINGS HAS BEEN ORDERED TO PAY AN ARCHITECT OVER $400,000 FOR BREACH OF CONTRACT, CONTRACT AND FRAUD. SO THIS IS NOT PROGRESS FOR LEANDER. I THINK IT'S A HUGE SETBACK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. YOU GAVE US SOME TIME BACK. I THINK IT IS 905. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 5 OR 10 COUNCIL FIVE MINUTE BREAK, AND THEN WE'LL BE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE'LL CALL UP JAMES DEAN. HE'S. YEP. HE HAD ANOTHER CARD. JAMES. YES. IF YOU'D SAY YOUR ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. JAMES DEAN AT 23. I'M SORRY, 2513 COSTA DEL SOL LEANDER, TEXAS. I AM A ADAMANT NO ABOUT THE LAGOON. THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT, IF THEY COULD COME UP WITH SOME REASONABLE RESPONSES TO MY NEIGHBORS AND THEIR THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT LIGHT AND TRAFFIC AND SO FORTH. AND I KNOW YOU ALL. NOBODY'S STARTED MY TIME. HE CANNOT TALK FOREVER. 
          THANK YOU. YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE. THERE WE GO. SO YOU'RE GOOD TO GO. YEAH. THE THE LAGOON IS A JUST AN ABSOLUTE NONSTARTER. WATER IS SCARCE. WE'RE IN A LONG TERM DROUGHT. NO ONE IS FORECASTING ANY END TO THAT DROUGHT ANYTIME SOON. I RECENTLY TRAVELED OUT TO THE FAR SIDE OF THE STATE AND ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WE'RE DEALING WITH WATER LOSS. SO THIS LAGOON IS IS BE A WONDERFUL IDEA. IF THERE WAS MAGICAL WATER AND A MAGICAL AQUIFER THAT NEVER LOST ANY WATER AND, AND ALL OF THAT STUFF, THAT'S NOT FACTS. THAT'S NOT WHAT THE REAL WORLD WE LIVE IN. SO IF THEY WANT TO TAKE OUT TAKE OUT THE LAGOON, I THINK ALL OF US WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TALKING TO THEM. I ALSO, THOUGH, AND I REALIZE THIS ISN'T THE ACTUAL ITEM, BUT I WANT TO TOUCH UPON. I KEEP HEARING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN FROM MY NEIGHBORS TRAFFIC, AND I DON'T THINK A LOT OF US IN LAND ARE. REALIZE THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OVER A LOT OF ITS OWN ROADS. THE STATE DOES THAT. AND I THINK WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AT SOME POINT WITH CITY AND THE PLANNERS AND THE STATE, AND TRY AND LOOK AT SOME IMPROVEMENTS ABOUT OUR ROADWAYS. I ALSO DO WANT TO I THINK WE NEED TO PULL WILLIAMSON COUNTY INTO THE ROOM. WILLIAMSON COUNTY NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING TO WATCH ITS AQUIFERS. 
          IT IS OUTRAGEOUS THAT WILLIAMSON COUNTY GOT SOMETHING IN PLACE TO WATCH AFTER ITS PEOPLE THAT HAVE WELL WATER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. MATT. PITCHER PITCHER. I'M 
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SORRY I ADDED R I KNOW. IF YOU COME UP YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. STATE YOUR ADDRESS. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 1481 RONALD REAGAN BOULEVARD. MADAM MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, PEOPLE OF LEANDER, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMIC CONCERNS OF THIS PROJECT. AND AS A FORMER FULL TIME COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE INVESTOR, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS STUFF. THE COMMERCIAL VIABILITY OF DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS IS COMPLETELY RELIANT ON ITS ANCHOR. THE LAGOON ANCHORS EVERYTHING. SPRINGS IS IN THE NAME. IT BRINGS THE CONVENTIONS, FILLS THE HOTEL, DRAWS THE FAMILY, SUPPORTS THE RETAIL, GENERATES THE SALES TAX. I UNDERSTAND THAT ARGUMENT, BUT IT ONLY WORKS IF THE ANCHOR HOLDS A LAGOON IS NOT AN HEB. 
          IT'S NOT A PROFESSIONAL SPORTS FRANCHISE. IT'S NOT A WALMART OR AN ALAMO DRAFTHOUSE OR MAIN EVENT WITH AN EXECUTED LEASE. THOSE ANCHORS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR DECADES AND WILL BE AROUND FOR DECADES MORE. A FOUR ACRE RECREATIONAL LAGOON IN CENTRAL TEXAS IS ANCHORED TO WATER, A PRECIOUS, DWINDLING AND INCREASINGLY UNRELIABLE RESOURCE IN THIS PART OF THE STATE. YOU CANNOT GUARANTEE ME THAT ANCHOR IS GOING TO BE THERE IN FIVE, 10 OR 20 YEARS, AND IF THE ANCHOR GOES, EVERYTHING GOES WITH IT. THE ECONOMIC PROJECTIONS PRESENTED TO THIS COUNCIL $110 MILLION IN ANNUAL SALES TAX, 2600 JOBS, EVERY DOLLAR OF IT DEPENDS ON A LAGOON THAT DEPENDS ON WATER. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT MODEL CAME FROM. WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT IN CENTRAL TEXAS IN 2026, WATER IS NOT A FOUNDATION. YOU BUILD $1 BILLION ECONOMY ON. IF THERE WAS A REAL VIABLE ANCHOR WITH AN EXECUTED LEASE AND A TRACK RECORD, I'D HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. BUT THE ANCHOR HERE IS LAGOON, AND I'M NOT WILLING TO BET LEANDER'S ECONOMIC FUTURE ON THAT. AND I ASK YOU NOT TO EITHER. THANK YOU. CRYSTAL CLOUD. OH, SORRY, I DIDN'T EVEN. I DIDN'T EVEN SEE. TAKE YOUR TIME TO. IF YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 15, 13. YOU LIN DRIVE WELL. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WOULD LIKE TO GO ON THE RECORD ASKING YOU TO VOTE YES FOR THE LEANDER SPRINGS. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF EMOTIONS GOING ON IN THIS ROOM TONIGHT. I'M NOT GOING TO REALLY TALK ABOUT WATER. THERE'S ENOUGH HYPERBOLE GOING ON WITH IT. AND SO WHAT I AM ASKING YOU TO DO IS TO I'M LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE REVENUE SIDE OF THIS PROJECT. NOBODY'S REALLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT THIS REVENUE IS GOING TO BRING. LEANDER RIGHT NOW HAS ONE ARM TIED BEHIND ITS BACK WHEN IT COMES TO SALES TAX. AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT IS. THAT'S HALF OF OUR SALES TAX GOES TO CAPMETRO, WHICH MEANS IT LEAVES HERE AND IT GOES TO AUSTIN. AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE WITH CAPMETRO. IT BRINGS PEOPLE TO AUSTIN. IT DOESN'T BRING ANYBODY HERE. THIS PROJECT WILL BRING PEOPLE HERE, AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THEM TO GET ON THAT. SO LET'S LOOK AT THAT PART. THE OTHER THING IS IT DOES BRING IN SALES TAX. RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT SO MANY LITTLE STRIP MALLS GOING IN ALL OVER THE CITY. EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND, THERE'S A NEW ONE HERE, NEW ONE THERE. ALL OF THESE PUT TOGETHER AREN'T GOING TO BRING IN THE REVENUE THAT THIS CAN BETWEEN THE SALES TAX, THE PROPERTY TAX AND THE HOTEL TAX. WE HAVE ONE HOTEL ONE, AND I CAN TELL YOU, IT DOESN'T BRING IN THAT MUCH. ONE LITTLE HOTEL. NOW YOU WANT THE WE'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER HOTEL. WE'RE GOING TO ADD A GOOD VENUE. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO COME TO LEANDER. I'M SORRY. PROGRESS IS COMING. AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, IT'S GOING TO COME. IF YOU VOTE THIS DOWN TONIGHT, YOU HAVE ONE OPTION TO RAISE MONEY IN THIS TOWN, AND THAT'S PROPERTY TAX. SO YOU'RE GOING TO RAISE MY PROPERTY TAX TO COVER MONEY THAT THIS CITY NEEDS. THIS CITY HAS ALL KINDS OF PROGRAMS. THE SENIOR CENTER. IT'S GREAT. LET'S EXPAND IT. LET'S DO MORE. WE CAN'T BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. OUR PARKS AND RECREATION, THEY NEED MONEY, OUR POLICE, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE NEED TO GROW THOSE. THEY ALL NEED MONEY. SO I'M ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT THIS. 
          THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO REACH IT. IF THEY DON'T DEVELOP THE LAGOON, THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO SELL THE PROPERTY. I'M NOT THE DEVELOPER. I DON'T KNOW THEY'LL SELL THE PROPERTY OR THEY'LL BUILD SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO BRING IN THE REVENUE THAT WE NEED. OUR TOWN IS GROWING WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT. AND YES, THE TOWN HAS 
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GROWN IN THE TEN YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, IT HAS DOUBLED IN SIZE. SORRY, BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT HAPPENS WITH PROGRESS. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SERVING OUR CITY AND I APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND PLEASE VOTE YES AND THINK ABOUT THE REVENUE SIDE. TAKE THE EMOTIONS AND THE POLITICAL OUT OF IT AND THINK ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR CITY DOWN THE ROAD, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE AN IMPACT THAT YOU MAKE. THANK YOU. KATHERINE KLONDIKER, I HOPE I GOT IT RIGHT KIND OF SORT OF. OKAY, YOU CAN CORRECT ME. WHAT'S THE CORRECT. KATHERINE. OKAY. AND 2809 OAK COVE. THANK YOU. I'M HERE TODAY TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PROJECT FOR THESE DEVELOPERS, INVESTORS, BASED ON THEIR PERSISTENT INCONSISTENCY IN THE MESSAGING, LACK OF EXPERIENCE AND UNSATISFACTORY PAST RESULTS, THEY'VE SHOWN THIS IS NOT A PROJECT THEY CAN HANDLE OR FUND. HERE'S MY REASONING. THE WATER HAS NOT YET APPLIED TO THE STATE TO USE THEIR TECH IN A PUBLIC LAGOON WITHOUT CHEMICALS. THEY DO NOT HAVE A SINGLE LAGOON IN AMERICA, AND THEY'VE ONLY EVER BUILT ONE RIGHT? GROUP AND ISLAND HAVE NEVER COMPLETED A TOURIST DESTINATION, A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OR ANY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OVER 206 UNITS. BUT THEY'RE GOING FOR THE TRIFECTA IN LEANDER. WE ARE TIRED OF BEING GUINEA PIGS. FOR INEXPERIENCED DEVELOPERS, RAVI AND TROY REPEATEDLY SAID IT'LL USE LESS WATER THAN ONE HOUSE. 
          NOW IT'S 6 TO 7 HOMES OR ONE SPRINKLER. THEY ARE PURPOSELY USING RATE INSTEAD OF VOLUME TO DOWNPLAY THE WATER USE. EACH YEAR, MY SPRINKLERS RUN 20 MINUTES A WEEK. RAVI HAS SHARED WITH POTENTIAL INVESTORS AS RECENTLY AS THIS JUNE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT HAS 22 MILLION IN INCENTIVES, BUT THOSE WERE CANCELED IN 2020 FOR. THIS IMPLIES THE CITY APPROVAL AND LEADS ON INVESTORS. HE IS STILL LOOKING FOR EB FIVE INVESTORS. LEANDER SPRINGS WEBSITE HIGHLIGHTS THAT RESIDENTS WILL ONLY GET A DISCOUNT IF THE CITY REINSTATES THE INCENTIVES, BUT PRICES, EVEN FOR TENANTS, ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE AFTER A MANAGEMENT COMPANY TAKES OVER. 
          THIS SEEMS LIKE A BAIT AND SWITCH. REGARDLESS OF INCENTIVES, THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE HAS BEEN A COMPLETE JOKE. AT ONE POINT, TROY HILL WROTE IN A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE TO STOP TALKING SO MUCH ABOUT WATER BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS SHOWING THE INACCURACIES. THEY POSTED JUST AUGUST 1ST, A STUDY FROM 2020 THAT SAID THEY'RE USING THE LOWER TRINITY AQUIFER. THEY DIDN'T EVEN READ IT. THEIR RELIANCE ON AI FOR THEIR MARKETING HAS BEEN DISASTROUS. MISTAKES IN THE DATA, UNREALISTIC COMPARISONS, AND THE SAME OLD CHATGPT TEMPLATES. IF THIS IS THE TYPE OF MARKETING THEY'RE SENDING TO POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL ANCHORS AND HOTELS, IT'LL BE THROWN IN THE TRASH. IT'S UGLY, INACCURATE, AND LAZY. NEWSFLASH IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE. SINCE 2020, THERE ARE EIGHT DIFFERENT BUT CONNECTED LLCS DATING BACK TO THE INITIAL APPROVAL, ALL CONNECTED TO RAVI AND ANDRE, THE CEO OF ISLAND. THIS SEEMS EXCESSIVE, BUT THEY NEED PROTECTION FROM LIABILITY. 
          SEVEN OF THE LLCS ARE HELD BY THE CEO OF ISLAND. THE POD WAS SUBMITTED IN MAY BY ISLAND. 
          FINALLY, IT'S BEEN SIX YEARS AND THEY HAVE NOT SHOWN ANY INNOVATION. THEY ARE STUCK ON THE LAGOON. AND NOW THOUGHTS OF A SURF PARK THAT FAILED IN AUSTIN. TWO WEEKS AGO, THEY FINALLY ASKED LEANDER RESIDENTS WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE. THIS ENFORCES. THEY'VE NOT DONE THE STUDIES AND MARKET RESEARCH FOR A TOURIST ATTRACTION. HOW FAR ARE PEOPLE WILLING TO TRAVEL FOR THIS OR WILLING TO PAY? WHERE IS THE SUPPORTING DATA? BESIDES ANECDOTES, SINCE IT WAS APPROVED IN 2021? SORRY. THANK YOU. FORMER MAYOR JOHN COLEMAN. IF YOU'D STATE YOUR ADDRESS, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. JOHN COLEMAN, 1500 SCENIC DRIVE, AUSTIN, TEXAS. 78703. I'D LIKE TO TAKE MY SHOWERS IN THE MORNING. IN 1998, I TURNED MY SHOWER ON AND NO WATER CAME OUT. 
          LEANDER HAD NO WATER. WE WERE OUT. WE WERE NEGOTIATING WITH STILLHOUSE HOLLOW. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE IT IS, BUT IT'S SOMEWHERE WAY UP THERE. I RAN FOR MAYOR IN 2003 AND I SAID, WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE WATER. WE. WE NOW HAVE, AND I HOPE IT'S STILL THE SAME 24000 ACRE FEET THAT IS RESERVED IN LAKE TRAVIS. WE HAVE AN INTER-BASIN TRANSFER, WHICH I WROTE TO YOU ALL ABOUT. 
          I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW IT. WE CAN DRAW FROM LAKE TRAVIS. WE HAVE DEEP WATER INTAKE, WHICH WE GOT A STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOAN TO GET, I THINK $300 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          WE DID EVERYTHING NECESSARY FROM PLANNING OUR CITY FOR PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T HERE YET. 
          WE KNEW IT BUILD OUT. WE WERE GOING TO BE AROUND 275,000 PEOPLE. WE NEEDED TO GET THINGS 
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GOING. WHEN I CALLED OUR CITY ATTORNEY AT THE TIME, HIS NAME WAS BARNEY KNIGHT. MAYOR, ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE READY FOR THIS? YES, WE ARE, BECAUSE WE'RE A BLANK CANVAS. AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO DESIGN OUR CITY. WE KNEW THAT BIG BOXES WERE GOING TO BYPASS US. WALMART, TARGET, COSTCO. SO WE WERE GOING TO DESIGN OUR CITY. AND WE DID. WE HAVE A DESIGNER CITY THAT IS GETTING YOUNGER EVERY DAY, RIGHT? WE'RE A VERY YOUNG, VIBRANT POPULATION. SO OUR MOTTO WAS LIVE, WORK, PLAY, LEARN, SHOP, STAY OUR THREE LEGGED STOOL, WHICH I WROTE TO YOU ALL ABOUT HOSPITALS, EDUCATION, TRANSPORTATION, WHAT WE STARTED AND BUILT UPON. SO WE, WE DID THIS FOR PEOPLE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY OF Y'ALL WERE HERE IN 2010 OR WHATEVER. OKAY. RIGHT. BUT WE DID THIS FOR THOSE WHO WEREN'T HERE YET. NOW WE HAVE A PROJECT HERE THAT CHECKS EVERY BOX THAT FORMER COUNCILS WANTED A DESIGNER PROJECT, THE TOD. WHEN I HEAR Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT TRANSIT CODES OR COMPOSITE ZONING, THAT'S WHAT WE DID. WE SET UP ALL THE BUILDING BLOCKS FOR YOU ALL, WHICH YOU INHERITED. AND I HOPE I HEARD YOU'RE GETTING RID OF MY ARTS COMMITTEE, WHICH I'M NOT TOO HAPPY ABOUT. BUT NEVERTHELESS, WE DID THIS FOR THOSE WHO WEREN'T HERE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION. I DROVE ALL THE WAY FROM MY LITTLE RANCH IN PAGE TO GET HERE, BECAUSE THIS ONE EXCITED ME. FINALLY, COVID AND ALL THAT OTHER KIND OF STUFF ARE 2025 PLAN IS FINALLY STARTING TO TURN. YOU ALL HAVE. 
          YOU ALL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE NEXT 50 YEARS. THIS PROJECT CHECKS THOSE BOXES. SO I JUST WANT TO PUT MY $0.02 IN. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. DANIEL REED. 708. DANIEL REED THANK YOU. SO WE ALL GOT ONE OF THESE IN THE MAIL THIS SUMMER. A FLIER FROM THE CITY, PROBABLY ALL RECOGNIZE IT. IT SAYS EVEN WITH THE RECENT RAINS, WILLIAMSON AND TRAVIS COUNTIES AREN'T FULLY OUT OF DROUGHT CONDITIONS. WITH ANOTHER HOT TEXAS SUMMER ON THE WAY, EVERY DROP MAKES A DIFFERENCE. LAND REMAINS IN PHASE TWO WATER RESTRICTIONS, SO EVERY DROP MAKES A DIFFERENCE. A THAT'S WHAT THE CITY TOLD EVERY RESIDENT. THIS SUMMER, THE DEVELOPER STOOD IN THIS ROOM AND TOLD THE CITY COUNCIL NOT TO WORRY ABOUT WATER, THAT THE AQUIFER IS ENORMOUS, THAT THE LAGOON DRAW IS A GRAIN OF BEACHL USE PRIVATE WELL WATER, NOT THE CITY WATER. SO THE LAND RESIDENTS HAVE NOTHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT. BUT HERE IS NOT. BUT HERE IS WHAT IS NOT IN THE PUD BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, THE CONTRACTUAL GUARANTEE THAT THE CITY WATER WILL NEVER BE USED TO FILL AND MAINTAIN THE LAGOON. THE DEVELOPER'S OWN Q&A DOCUMENT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT MUNICIPAL WATER CAN SERVE AS AN EMERGENCY BACKUP SOURCE, BUT THERE IS NO BINDING COMMITMENT IN THIS PUD THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM DRAWING ON CITY WATER. 
          WHEN THE WELL UNDERPERFORMS, WHEN THE LAGOON NEEDS EMERGENCY REFILL, OR WHEN THE DROUGHT CONDITIONS MAKE THE WELL PUMPING INEFFICIENT, SO LAND RESIDENTS ARE BEING ASKED TO CONSERVE EVERY DROP. WHILE THIS COUNCIL IS BEING ASKED TO APPROVE A NON-ESSENTIAL RECREATIONAL AMENITY WITH NO ENFORCEABLE GUARANTEE THAT IT WON'T TAP INTO THE SAME SYSTEMS, RESIDENTS ARE BEING TOLD TO PROTECT. A YES VOTE TONIGHT TELLS THE RESIDENTS THAT CONSERVATION IS REQUIRED OF THEM, BUT OPTIONAL FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPER BUILDING LAGOON. THAT IS NOT A STANDARD THIS COUNCIL SHOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH. PLEASE REJECT THIS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ELIZABETH. MORE. HI. IF YOU'D STATE YOUR ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 137 WEST WINDERMERE. LEANDER, THANK. THANK YOU ALL FOR STICKING WITH US AND CONSIDERING THIS WHY I OPPOSE THIS PROJECT. I APPRECIATE THE DESIRE TO MAKE LEANDER A DESTINATION SPOT, BUT PLEASE FIND A LOCATION THAT ISN'T ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE. WHERE BRUSHY AND MASON CREEKS MEET RIGHT NEXT TO THE CITY'S WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. VERY SEXY FOR A LUXURY LOCATION IN A PREEXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD, BRINGING NUISANCE TO IT ALONG AN OVERBURDENED TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND VERY FAR FROM CAPMETRO, THE CITY NEEDS A DEVELOPER THEY CAN TRUST SOMEONE WITH A PROVEN TRACK RECORD FOR THE SCALE OF A PROJECT WHO DOESN'T KEEP CHANGING MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THE PLAN. EVEN IN RECENT WEEKS, THIS DEVELOPER'S OWN PUBLISHED 
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SLIDES ARE MISLEADING. NUMBER 18, FOR INSTANCE, SAYS WATER HAS OVER 60 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. 
          ITS FOUNDERS MIGHT. BUT THE COMPANY FORMED FOUR YEARS AGO AND THEIR TECHNOLOGY IS NOT MUCH OLDER. IT IS NOT PROVEN LONG TERM. THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT WHAT THE DEVELOPER TEAM SAYS IS NOT FACT CHECKED. WHAT THE PUBLISHED PREJUDICE PRESENTATION DOESN'T ADDRESS IS WHERE THE LAGOON WATER WILL GO. IF IT GOES TO BRUSHY CREEK, EITHER DIRECTLY OR THROUGH THE WATER TABLE OR VIA WASTEWATER, IT CREATES POLLUTION. THE POLY POLYMER MONO LAYER, WHICH IS STILL ON THE TABLE, IS A PROBLEM. LAST YEAR, THE DEVELOPER SCIENTISTS REPEATEDLY FALSELY CLAIMED THAT THE POLYMER MONOLAYER WAS NOT CHEMICAL. OF COURSE IT IS. SUCH POLYMERS HAVE NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON PLANTS AND ANIMALS WHEN CONSUMED LONG TERM. BRUSHY CREEK BEGINS JUST UPSTREAM FROM THE DEVELOPER'S LAND. EVERY PLANT, TREE, FISH, TURTLE, DEER, EGRET, AND ARMADILLO ALONG ITS 68 MILE LENGTH WILL BE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED. FORCED TO CONSUME THIS POLLUTED WATER IN PERPETUITY IF THE LAGOON IS APPROVED. THESE CHEMICALS ARE DIFFICULT, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE, FOR TREATMENT PLANTS TO REMOVE, AND THE POLYMERS DO NOT WORK. THEY WORK TO PREVENT EVAPORATION ON STILL SURFACES, BUT THE PLAN IS FOR THE LAGOON TO BE VERY ACTIVE WITH SWIMMING AND SCUBA. THE WEATHER WILL ALSO CHURN THAT WATER. WHATEVER STILLING TECHNOLOGY THE DEVELOPER USES. BUT IF THE WATER STAYS IN THE LAGOON WITH NO PLANNED EGRESS, THEN WHAT? WHAT KIND OF CHEMICALS WILL PREVENT PLANT GROWTH AND STAGNATION? HOW WILL HUMAN SWEAT, SUNSCREEN, AND URINE BE TREATED? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A TEXAS TYPICAL TORRENTIAL RAIN MAKES THE LAGOON OVERFLOW? WILL THERE BE A LINER TO PROTECT THE CHEMICALLY TREATED WATER FROM GOING INTO THE WATER TABLE? SO MANY QUESTIONS UNADDRESSED. BOTTOM LINE THIS LOCATION, THIS DEVELOPER AND THIS LAGOON ARE NOT A SAFE INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY. PLEASE VOTE NO THANK YOU MAN. YOU GOT YOURS RIGHT ON THE ON THE DOT THERE AND I APOLOGIZE. THE HANDWRITING IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR ME, BUT MAYBE RICHARD POULTON OR BROCKTON. SORRY. RICHARD POULTON. NO. OKAY, SO WE'LL SAY NOT HERE. ANGELA PITTMAN. HI. CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS? YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 1014 VINTAGE DRIVE. LEANDER. THANK YOU. AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF SEVERAL OF MY NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS WHO ASKED ME TO SPEAK UP AND ASK THAT YOU VOTE NO TO LEANDER SPRINGS. WATER IS LIFE. 
          IT IS NOT AN ABSTRACT SLOGAN. EVERY DROP WE COMMIT TO DEVELOPMENT MUST BE WEIGHED AGAINST OUR BASIC ESSENTIAL HUMAN NEEDS. SO WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, HOW DOES AN ARTIFICIAL LAGOON RANK AGAINST LONG TERM WATER SECURITY FOR OUR EXISTING RESIDENTS OF LEANDER? HOW DO WE JUSTIFY PRIORITIZING A MASSIVE RECREATIONAL BODY OF WATER SO THAT SOMEONE CAN HAVE A SLIGHTLY CLOSER DINING OPTION? WE'RE BEING ASKED TO COMPROMISE OUR WATER FUTURE FOR UNNECESSARY RECREATION OPTIONS. WE CAN FIND MORE RESPONSIBLE WAYS TO DEVELOP OUR COMMUNITY. SO I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. JULIE BEASLEY. 
          HI, HI. IF YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. YEP. JULIE BEASLEY 418 MESA GRANDE. I'M HERE AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN AND A PRIVATE WELL OWNER URGING YOU TO VOTE NO TONIGHT. I'M HERE TO REPRESENT MY NEIGHBORHOOD, MY COMMUNITY, AND ALL THE PRIVATE WELL OWNERS WHO COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT OR DID NOT KNOW THEY NEEDED TO BE HERE TONIGHT. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, A LOT OF US IN THIS ROOM SURVIVE ON PRIVATE WELLS AT THE P AND C MEETING IN JUNE, TROY HILL STATED THAT THERE ARE NO REGISTERED WELLS NEAR THE VICINITY OF THE LEANDER SPRINGS PROJECT. AS THE FORMER MAYOR OF LEANDER AND A SELF-CLAIMED GROUNDWATER ENGINEER PROFESSIONAL, HE VERY WELL KNOWS THAT THERE ARE IN FACT WELLS IN THE VICINITY OF THE LEANDER SPRINGS PROJECT. IT IS TRUE THAT THERE ARE NO LISTS OF REGISTERED WELLS. WELLS BECAUSE WILLIAMSON COUNTY, AS WE HEARD TONIGHT, DOES NOT HAVE A GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. SO THEREFORE THERE IS NO OFFICIAL LIST. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE TONIGHT, WE DEFINITELY ARE HERE AND THIS AFFECTS US. MANY HERE TONIGHT HAVE PAID THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO HAVE THEIR WELLS MODIFIED OR REMADE. WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THE SICK FEELING OF TURNING ON THE 
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FAUCET AND NO WATER COMES OUT. I DON'T KNOW ANY WELL OWNER THAT IS IRRESPONSIBLE WITH THEIR WATER. WE THINK ABOUT WATER EVERY SINGLE DAY. TROY HILL STATED IN THE PNC MEETING THAT THE OVERUSE BY WATERING OF PRIVATE WELL OWNERS IS THE ACTUAL CAUSE OF LOWERING THE AQUIFER LEVELS, AND HE INSISTS THAT THE USE OF THE AQUIFER PUMPING 100 GALLONS A MINUTE FOR MONTHS TO CREATE AN ARTIFICIAL LAGOON WILL MAKE ZERO IMPACT ON THE AQUIFER LEVEL. HE ALSO VERY DEFIANTLY STATED THAT THE AT THE PNC MEETING THAT THE GROUNDWATER BENEATH OUR FEET IS LEGALLY OURS AND WE CAN USE IT AS WE WANT. WELL, LEGALLY THAT MIGHT BE TRUE. IS IT RIGHT? BY USING THE AQUIFER TO FILL AND MAINTAIN THE LAGOON, LEANDER SPRINGS IS UTILIZING A LOOPHOLE ALLOWING THEM UNRESTRICTED AND UNMONITORED WATER USAGE. SO WHEN THE WELL RUNS DRY, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE? IF THERE'S SO MUCH WATER IN THE AQUIFER LIKE THEY CLAIM, WHY ARE WE NOT USING THIS WATER? I'M A PRACTICAL, COMMON SENSE PERSON AND I DON'T NEED NUMBERS AND MODELING TO UNDERSTAND THE UNNECESSARY OVERPUMPING OF THE AQUIFER ABSOLUTELY WILL MAKE AN IMPACT ON US. EVEN A SMALL CHANGE IN AQUIFER LEVELS WILL HAVE A LARGE IMPACT ON THOSE OF US WHO DEPEND ON THE AQUIFER TO SURVIVE. THIS ISSUE DOES NOT STOP AT THE THREE MILE RADIUS AROUND THE LAGOON. THIS ISSUE DOES NOT STOP AT LEANDER CITY LIMITS. THE IMPACT ON THE AQUIFER WILL AFFECT CITIZENS IN CEDAR PARK, AUSTIN, LIBERTY HILL, GEORGETOWN AND MANY OF THOSE FOLKS ARE WITH US TONIGHT. WE KNOW THAT THIS PARCEL OF LAND WILL BE DEVELOPED. WE'RE NOT AGAINST THAT, BUT IT DOES. DOES THE POD FIT INTO THE CITY PLAN AS IT IS NOW? HAS THE SPRINGS MISSED THEIR OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THEY'VE FAILED TO MAKE THE DEADLINES? COULD THERE BE A BETTER OPTION FOR THIS LAND THAT WILL STILL GENERATE JOBS AND MONEY FOR THE CITY? IS THERE AN OPTION THAT WILL BE MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT CITIZENS WANT? I THINK THERE'S A SOLUTION, BUT THE DEVELOPER NEEDS TO STOP CALLING CITIZENS HATERS AND GASLIGHTING US WITH NONSTOP PROPAGANDA BEFORE WE'LL BE WILLING TO SUPPORT ANY PROJECT THEY PROPOSE. YOU MADE IT RIGHT? WE GOT IT ALL IN. ROBERT HARDIN. 
          HI. CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS? YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, 17716 CHALET CIRCLE. LEANDER. 
          MY NAME IS ROBERT HARDIN. I'M FROM A MICRO COMMUNITY OF LEANDER CALLED BALLERS PARADISE. 
          I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TEN YEARS. MY WIFE HAS BEEN HERE FOR 26. EVEN THOUGH WE LIVE LESS THAN FIVE MILES FROM THE NEW SANDY CREEK WATER IMPROVEMENT, WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO ANY CITY WATER OR SEWER. WE RELY ON OUR WELLS OR WATER DELIVERY SERVICES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN ORDER TO HAVE WATER TO DRINK, TO LIVE, AND TO SURVIVE. WITH THE PROPOSAL OF LANDER SPRINGS AND THEIR REQUEST TO TAP THE TRINITY AQUIFER PUTS US IN A PERILOUS SITUATION. WELLS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ARE MOSTLY TAPPED INTO THE TRINITY AQUIFER. DROUGHTS ARE A FACT OF LIFE HERE IN LEANDER, AND IT'S NEVER A MATTER OF HOW SOON, BUT FACTUALLY, HOW LONG WILL IT LAST THIS TIME? IN THE LAST TEN YEARS I'VE LIVED HERE IN MY HOME. I'VE WATCHED LAKE TRAVIS DISAPPEAR AND REAPPEAR TWICE, AND NOW LEANDER WANTS TO PUT AN UNNECESSARY STRAIN ON THE WATER SUPPLY OF PEOPLE THAT DO NOT HAVE CITY WATER FOR A LAGOON. HOW WILL THIS HELP A GROWING CITY? IT WON'T. AND AND THIS MEETING ALONE, YOU HAVE DISCUSSED DEVELOPING 500 PLUS ACRES FOR EVERYTHING FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL. WE SHOULD USE OUR WATER FOR THAT, NOT A LAGOON. ACCORDING TO LEANDER SPRINGS HYDROLOGY REPORT, THEY DID A COMMUNITY IMPACT SURVEY FOR THREE SQUARE MILES. THE LAST TIME I ASKED GOOGLE HOW BIG LEANDER WAS, IT IS 38.7MI■!S. IF ONE FAMILY LOSS WATER, EXCUSE ME? IF ONE FAMILY LOSES WATER TO LIVE THERE. IF ONE FAMILY LOSES WATER TO LIVE FOR A LUXURY LAGOON, ONE IS. IF ONE FAMILY LOSES WATER OVER THIS SITUATION, IT'S ONE TOO MANY. WHAT HAPPENS TO US ON THE OUTSKIRTS? LEANDER DUE TO LAGOON SHOULDN'T BE A CHOICE OF WATER FOR A LUXURY RATHER THAN A WATER. A WATER TO SURVIVE. 
          HOW MANY OF US? WELL, OWNERS HAVE 30,000. $30,000 LYING AROUND JUST TO DIG A NEW WELL. 
          WHEN WILL THIS MADNESS STOP? WE DON'T NEED A GLOOM COMMUNITY. YES, LAGOON. NO. WE NEED LEANDER TO PUT OUR RESIDENTS FIRST TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF ALL RESIDENTS, NOT JUST THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE CITY WATER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I WAS GETTING A BOTTLE OF WATER FOR YOU. YOU SEEM LIKE YOU NEEDED ONE. DO YOU WANT IT? YES, I KNOW IT'S OKAY. BUT THEN I COULDN'T GET THE FRIDGE TO CLOSE SO IT WAS MAKING NOISE. SORRY. YOU'RE WELCOME. OH, I DID NOT KNOW THAT. AND THAT IS NOT WHY I GAVE YOU WATER. KAREN. KAREN BURNS. ALL RIGHT. I'M 
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GOING TO TRY NOT TO PASS OUT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE PUBLIC SPEAKING. OH MY GOODNESS. DO YOU NEED WATER TOO? I HAVE WATER, BUT IT'S NOT COLD. I NEED A VALIUM. OKAY. WELL I DON'T HAVE THAT. I CAN'T HELP YOU WITH THAT. I HAVE FOUR OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M AT 29 FAIR OAKS STREET, LEANDER, TEXAS. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KAREN BURNS AND I'M A CURRENT RESIDENT OF LEANDER THAT LIVES NEAR THE PROPOSED LAGOON SITE. I MOVED TO THIS AREA 13 YEARS AGO AFTER LIVING IN AUSTIN FOR SEVERAL YEARS. I WANTED A MORE QUIET AREA WITH LAND TO HAVE A GARDEN. I FOUND THAT LITTLE SLICE OF HEAVEN IN RICH MA LANDING. THE HOUSE CAME WITH ITS OWN WELL TO USE FOR WATERING MY GARDEN, WHICH WAS AN ADDED BONUS. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS WELL DRIED UP IN 2022. THE WELL SERVICE SAID IT WAS BECAUSE OF ALL THE GROWTH AND WOULD NEED, AND I WOULD NEED TO DRILL ANOTHER 200FT. I HAD USED THIS WELL SERVICE IN 2018 WHEN THEY REPLACED ALL OF MY PIPE AND ELECTRICAL TO THE WELL, SO THEY KNEW HOW DEEP MY WELL WAS ALREADY. SINCE I HAD MOVED TO THIS AREA, NUMEROUS APARTMENT BUILDINGS, SHOPPING CENTERS, AND NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN BUILT. THIS HAS MADE A HUGE IMPACT ON OUR WATER USAGE AND RUNOFF, WHICH ULTIMATELY IMPACTED THE WATER THAT FED MY WELL. WHILE I AM SAD ABOUT THIS, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT MORE HOUSING IS NEEDED FOR PEOPLE. WHAT WE DON'T NEED IS A LAGOON THAT WILL REQUIRE EVEN MORE WATER USAGE, WHETHER THAT COMES FROM THE CITY OR THE LOWER TRINITY AQUIFER, WHICH FEEDS MANY OF THESE WELLS. I HAVE LIVED IN TEXAS ALL OF MY LIFE AND HAVE WITNESSED MANY DROUGHTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST 15 YEARS. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN A DROUGHT. WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY MEASURABLE RAIN IN ALMOST A MONTH, AND TEMPS HAVE BEEN OVER 100 DEGREES FOR THE LAST THREE WEEKS. THE OPERATORS OF THIS LAGOON HAVE CLAIMED THAT THEY HAVE SPECIAL LINER THAT PREVENTS, I'M SORRY, THE OPERATORS OF THIS LAGOON HAVE CLAIMED THAT THEY HAVE SPECIAL LINERS THAT PREVENTS EVAPORATION. I ASKED WHAT THIS LINER WAS MADE OUT OF AND RECEIVED NO RESPONSE. I ALSO AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT CHEMICALS WILL BE USED IN THIS LAGOON, AND HOW POSSIBLE RUNOFF COULD AFFECT BRUSHY CREEK. THIS CREEK RUNS THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND SUPPLIES WATER TO MUCH OF THE WILDLIFE IN THIS AREA. HAVE ANY ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES BEEN DONE AT ALL IN REGARDS TO THIS LAGOON AND THE AMOUNT OF DISCHARGE IT WILL PRODUCE? AND DURING THE SUMMER WHEN THIS WHEN THERE IS LOW FLOW. HOW DOES THIS DISCHARGE AFFECT THE COMPOSITION OF THE CREEK, FOR EXAMPLE, WILL WE. WILL IT BE AT RISK FOR ALGAE BLOOMS? THESE ARE ALL QUESTIONS WORTH ASKING BEFORE ANY APPROVAL IS MADE. SO I'M AGAINST THIS AND I OPPOSE IT. AND LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT OUR WATER CONCERNS ARE NOT HYPERBOLE. I MEAN, WATER IS LIFE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE WATER, YOU WILL DIE. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. LISA EVANS. HELLO, MADAM MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS LISA EVANS. 
          I LIVE AT 15106 HARKEY COVE IN LEANDER. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE APPLE SPRINGS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. WE REPRESENT OUR. I REPRESENT 73 HOMEOWNERS JUST IN THE ETJ. WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO CITY WATER. WE ALL HAVE WELLS AND WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY IN THE LEANDER AREA. 
          THE DEVELOPER HAS REPRESENTED TO THE CITY THAT IT'S WELL CAN PRODUCE APPROXIMATELY 100 TO 120 GALLONS OF WATER PER MINUTE, AND THAT CONTINUOUS PUMPING FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO MONTHS COULD FILL THE LAGOON. THE DEVELOPER IS ALSO REPRESENTED THAT THE GROUNDWATER WITHDRAWAL WILL HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT, AND THAT NEARBY WELLS WILL NOT BE ADVERSELY IMPACTED. AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN HERE TONIGHT, THE GROWTH IN THIS AREA IS ALREADY IMPACTING OUR WELLS. THE COST FOR SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS TO GO DEEPER IS 40 TO $50,000. THAT'S A HUGE EXPENSE FOR OUR FAMILY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S NOT EXPECTED. AND THEN AGAIN, IF YOU WALK OUT AND YOU JUST THERE'S NO WATER, WHAT DO YOU DO? I MEAN, YOU'RE STUCK FOR FAMILIES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THESE CONSEQUENCES ARE NOT EMOTIONAL. THEY'RE PRACTICAL. I SCRATCHED A LOT OF STUFF OUT BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE SAID IT. SO I'LL BE I'LL BE BRIEF. IF SURROUNDING HOMEOWNERS EXPERIENCE LOSS OF, WELL, CAPACITY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT'S PUMPING, WHO'S GOING TO PAY THAT COST THAT THOSE FAMILIES ARE GOING TO INCUR? THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT ARE SUBSTANTIAL FOR THE CITY, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT. 
          BUT FINANCIAL RISK OF AN IMPAIRED RESIDENTIAL WELL, AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED, IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY REAL FOR FAMILIES. AND WE WON'T HAVE ANY COMPENSATION AND WE DON'T GET ANY ECONOMIC BENEFIT FROM THIS PROJECT. WE'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO CHOOSE. WE'RE NOT ASKING THE COUNCIL TO CHOOSE BETWEEN GROWTH AND NO GROWTH. WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING YOU TO APPLY A BASIC PRINCIPLE OF RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND TO CONSIDER THE BROADER COMMUNITY IMPACT. ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU TO REQUIRE WAIT FOR YOU TO ELIMINATE THE LAGOON OR USE CITY OF LEANDER WATER. SINCE THE CITY OF LEANDER IS. 
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WHO'S GOING TO GET ALL OF THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT? OR PERHAPS MR. HILL. 
          THEY WANT A LAGOON IN LAMPASAS. A DISCRETIONARY WATER PARK CANNOT TAKE PRIORITY OVER THE WATER SECURITY FOR THE VULNERABLE POPULATION. THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY OTHER ACCESS. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND RISMAN APPEASE. I HOPE I GOT IT RIGHT, I DON'T THINK I DID, BUT EXCELLENT. AND PLEASE CORRECT ME ON THE PROPER WAY TO PRONOUNCE. WHAT'S THE PROPER WAY TO PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME? A PIECE, A PIECE. OKAY, I GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. IF YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. SURE. I LIVE IN 801 COLVIN LEANDER, TEXAS. THANK YOU. SO MY HOUSE IS VERY CLOSE TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT. IT'S HARDLY WITHIN 200FT. AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS A HORIZON LAKE, IT'S IT'S A VERY YOUNG COMMUNITY. I WOULD SAY A LOT OF YOUNG FAMILIES HAVING KIDS, MOSTLY UNDER AGE TEN, I WOULD SAY IN OUR IN OUR STREETS AND ADJACENT STREETS, YOU WOULD WOULD NOTICE THAT THE KIDS ARE OUTSIDE PLAYING, YOU KNOW, AROUND EIGHT, NINE IN THE NIGHT. AND, AND PEOPLE GO FOR A WALK, ESPECIALLY OLD AGE PEOPLE, PARENTS, THEY DO GO FOR WALK. AND IT'S A. RIGHT NOW IT'S A VERY SAFE COMMUNITY FOR US. WELL PROTECTED, NO EXTERNAL TRAFFIC THAT CUTS THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY. WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS COVE IN BEND, WHICH WILL BE CONNECTED TO THIS PROJECT ONCE IT GETS CONNECTED. AS SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE ALREADY POINTED OUT, THE LOT OF CARS, THE TRAFFIC WOULD START COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE ARE CONCERNED THAT IT WOULD BE A SAFETY CONCERN FOR THE KIDS. AND FOR THAT REASON, IN ITS CURRENT STATE. I WOULD LIKE TO OPPOSE IF THIS CONCERN IS RESOLVED. I'M I'M HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, OKAY. WITH THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CAT. HOW. HELLO. AND YOU KNOW HOW THIS GOES. HELLO. CAT HOWELL 11327 HEBREW WAY WEST. AND AND YES, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE, I SPEAK OFTEN, YES. FOR YEARS. DECADES ACTUALLY. OKAY. SO ALSO FOR THE AUDIENCE, I AM THE LEANDER HISTORIAN AND I'M ALSO AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF POINTS IN THAT DIRECTION. SOMEONE ASKED EARLIER, WHERE DID THE WELL COME IN WITH THIS PROJECT VERSUS CITY WATER? WHEN WE STARTED THIS ALMOST A DECADE AGO, IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE NONSTARTER FOR THE LAGOON TO COME FROM CITY WATER BECAUSE IT WAS CONSIDERED SO GROSSLY IRRESPONSIBLE BY THE CITY. AND IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE THAT THERE WAS A WELL AVAILABLE THERE. AND THAT'S WHEN THEY SWITCHED TO THAT ARGUMENT. THIS PROPERTY USED TO BELONG TO A FAMILY THAT'S BEEN HERE SINCE THE ORIGINAL FOUNDERS OF LEANDER AND IDA NEL SOLD THAT PROPERTY. HER AND HER FAMILY SOLD THE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE SEWER TREATMENT PLANT. I'M SURPRISED NO ONE HAS SAID THIS, AND I GUESS NO ONE UNDERSTANDS THIS BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIVE THIS CLOSE TO IT. THE SEWER TREATMENT PLANT STINKS. IT DOES. AND IT IT ALWAYS WILL, BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN PROCESSES THAT GO ON IN A SEWER TREATMENT PLANT THAT NECESSITATES THAT THIS SMELL BE RELEASED. WE CANNOT HAVE A PROJECT THAT IS AN OUTDOOR PROJECT ADJACENT TO A SEWER TREATMENT PLANT AND EXPECT FOR IT TO SMELL WELL. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO SMELL VERY BADLY AT ALL TIMES. OUR CITY IS GROWING. 
          WE ARE NOT MOVING OUR SEWER TREATMENT PLANT. WE DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO PAY FOR THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO HAVE A COMPLETELY UP TO DATE SEWER TREATMENT PLANT THAT DOESN'T SMELL IT. IT'S JUST A FACT. ON THE ELECTRICAL SIDE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, I GO AND I AM PART OF THE ELECTRICAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS AREA. I CHECKED WITH LCRA AND WITH PECK. THEY DID NOT HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT ON THEIR RADAR. THE NEW LINE THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN FROM LCRA AND PECK, THAT GOES FOR THIS AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THE ENTIRE AREA, DOES NOT INCLUDE THIS DEVELOPMENT. THEY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT. I VERIFIED THAT 
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WITH PECK AND LCRA EARLIER THIS WEEK, THEY WILL NOT HAVE POWER. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A DEVELOPER THAT HAS NOT BEEN HONEST ALL THE WAY THROUGH. WE HAVE A SEWER TREATMENT PLANT. WE HAD THE OWNER THAT HAD TO SELL THE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE SMELL, AND WE DO NOT HAVE POWER TO IT. 
          ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE ARE SIGNS OF FAILURE. THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL FAIL BECAUSE IT DOES NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE ITEMS THAT IT NEEDS TO SUCCEED. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. RAJESH KHANNA, OSM. RAJESH KHANNA, OSM NO. OKAY, PRESENT. VISHESH READ MORE. I'M SORRY, THE HANDWRITING. I CAN'T REALLY READ IT. NOPE. VISHWESH. READ MORE. NOPE. OKAY. CORDELIA LOVELADY. HELLO? I'M TIRED. OH. GOOD EVENING. YES. IT'S LATE. IF YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 205 HERNANDEZ. THANK YOU. I WANT TO APPLAUD ALL THE PEOPLE BEFORE ME THAT HAVE SPOKE THEIR CONCERNS, THEIR FACTS AGAINST THIS PROJECT. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE OF LEANDER THAT I LOVE, AND THEY KNOW ALONG WITH ME. THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR LEANDER NOW OR FOR A FUTURE. I'VE BEEN A HOMEOWNER SINCE 1979 AND WATER HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM AND THE GROWTH I'VE SEEN JUST ADDS TO IT. WE DON'T NEED A LAGOON TAKING WATER FROM ANYWHERE. WE'RE IN A DROUGHT, WHICH WILL CONTINUE FOR YEARS, AS IS MOST AREAS IN ALL OF TEXAS. THIS ALSO POSES A HUGE CONCERN FOR ALL OF OUR PEOPLE ON, WELL, WATER TOO, BECAUSE THE CITY CAN'T SUPPLY WATER TO THEM. I KNOW OF WELLS GOING DRY IN OUR AREA MANY, MANY YEARS AGO DURING THE DROUGHT CONDITIONS, AND PEOPLE HAD TO DRILL FARTHER DOWN THAT TO COST THE PEOPLE ON WELLS LOTS OF MONEY. WE ARE IN THIS DROUGHT AND WATER ISSUE TOGETHER. THIS IS OUR FUTURE. THEY COME IN, BUILD THEIR PROJECTS, THAT THEY PROFIT FROM THEM. THEY LEAVE TO NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN, OR ANY LIABILITY HELD AGAINST THEM FOR FUTURE WATER ISSUES. THIS WILL CAUSE. I'M AGAINST THIS PROJECT AND I HOPE YOU VOTE NO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S HARRY. PUGLIA. KADEEM. IT'S HARI. HARRY OR HARRY? NO. OKAY. JOE GLEASON. OKAY. JOE. 
          LINSON. NO. DID YOU SAY? YEAH. OKAY. ANDREW T SLAUGHTER US. AND I KNOW YOU'LL HAVE TO TO CORRECT ME ON THE LAST NAME. WHAT'S THE PROPER WAY TO SAY IT? SOUL TEN PLUS. THANK YOU. 
          SULTENFUSS. GOT IT. MY NAME IS ANDREW SULTENFUSS. I LIVE AT 201 MESA VISTA DRIVE, LEANDER, TEXAS. IT'S PART OF THE ETJ. I HAVE MANY FRIENDS HERE THAT I'VE WORKED WITH, AND AT ONE POINT I WAS THE ADVISORY PARKS CHAIRMAN AND I DID THAT FOR TEN YEARS. SO THIS FEELS VERY FAMILIAR. THOUGH I DON'T REALLY ATTEND ANYMORE AND I CAN APPRECIATE THE WORK THE CITY COUNCIL DOES. AND YOU, MAYOR, THESE ARE NOT EASY MEETINGS TO GO THROUGH. AND I'VE BEEN PERSONALLY HERE TILL LIKE 2 A.M. ON OCCASION. AND I KNOW YOU ALL DEAL WITH THAT ALL THE TIME. SO GOD BLESS YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. YOU'RE WELL BEYOND ME. I WANTED TO SPEAK TODAY IN OF TD LIVING IN LEANDER. EXPLICITLY, BOTH IN THE CITY AND OUTSIDE THE CITY. FOR THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY. THE PLACE WE LIVE IN CENTRAL TEXAS ISN'T FOR EVERYONE. BEING A NATIVE TEXAN, I LOVE IT HERE, AND I THINK WE SEE MORE PEOPLE EVERY DAY COMING HERE. THERE'S A REASON TO BE IN LEANDER. SOMETHING WITH EVERYONE GOING THROUGH THE DETAILS, BEING AN ENGINEER, AND I'M ENJOYING HAVING ANOTHER ELECTRICAL ENGINEER IN THE ROOM WITH US. YOU LOOK AT ISSUES AND 
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TRY AND WORK YOUR WAY THROUGH, AND I KNOW THE CITY COUNCIL DOES THE SAME THING. IF THE ANSWERS WERE EASY, THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO HAVE A COUNCIL. AND SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. TWO ITEMS THAT CAME TO MY MIND OF WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THESE ISSUES FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER. I'VE HAD TWO EVENTS LIVING IN LEANDER THAT THAT HURT ME TO MY CORE. ONE WAS THE FIRES AND IT WAS FOR SOME OF THE MEMBERS. THEY PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THAT HOUSES BURNED DOWN ON 183 IN THE MIDDLE OF LEANDER, ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND, BURNED UP. WE HAD FIRES. 
          I KNOW MY LITTLE PLACE. WE HAD FIVE FIRES AROUND US SIMULTANEOUSLY, WITH C-130S DROPPING RETARDANT AND ALL THAT. AND IT WAS. AND TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY. BUT TO FEEL SO HELPLESS AND JUST THE SMOKE AND SO ON, IT WAS JUST GOD'S HAND. YOU, YOU, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING YOU COULD DO ABOUT IT. AND WE LIVED THROUGH THAT. SO THAT AS A OWNER WITH A YOUNG FAMILY MADE ME VERY SENSITIVE TO FIRE IN OUR AREA. VERY KEY ISSUE. THE SECOND ONE IS TURNING THE TAP ON AND IT KIND OF GURGLES AND NO WATER COMES OUT. SO I'M ON MY SECOND. 
          WELL, I KNOW WHAT THE FOLKS ARE GOING THROUGH. WE'VE BEEN ON WELL WATER FOR SOME TIME. A THIRD DISTANT THIRD IS WHEN THE SEPTIC SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK, BUT I'M A LITTLE LESS AFRAID OF THAT THAN HAVING NO WATER COME OUT THE WATER PIPE. I WOULD HAVE THE TEAM CONSIDER THIS. 
          IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE GETTING TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU. 
          SHASHI SUGERMAN. AND I KNOW I DIDN'T GET THAT RIGHT EITHER. SO CORRECT ME, YOU GOT IT RIGHT. 
          I THINK YOU'RE APPEASING ME. DID I GET IT RIGHT? I DID DO IT. OKAY. YEAH. IF YOU SAY YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. MY NAME IS SHASHIDHARA SUKUMARAN I LIVE IN 713 LEANDER, TEXAS. OKAY. I'M A NEIGHBOR OF THIS PROPOSED LEANDER SPRINGS PROJECT. I AM I'M NOT HERE TO OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS RELATED TO TRAFFIC LIKE MY. MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS RAISED. THIS PROJECT NEEDS TO BE DESIGNED IN A WAY WHERE THE. CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC INTO MY RESIDENTIAL STREET IS IS AVOIDED WHERE MY CHILDREN AND QUITE A LOT OF THEIR FRIENDS PLAY TOGETHER. AND IT'S A DIRECT SAFETY CONCERN FOR US. THIS IS A PRETTY QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S ONE OF MY NEIGHBOR POINTED OUT. I ALSO INVITE YOU ALL TO COME AND VISIT IT. IT'S DEFINITELY QUITE AN. WE FEEL VERY SAFE THERE. THESE ROADS ARE PRETTY NARROW AND THEY ARE NOT INTENDED TO CARRY HEAVY TRAFFIC. RIGHT. AND MY CONCERN IS THAT ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED, I EXPECT THROUGH COMMON SENSE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO COME INTO MY STREETS. RIGHT. I ASK THE ACCESS POINT TO MY STREET, COVID BEND SPECIFICALLY TO BE TO BE BLOCKED. THAT IS ONE CONDITION WHICH I WOULD REQUEST THE COUNCIL AND MADAM MAYOR TO PUT IN AS A CONDITION TO, TO, TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS PROJECT IN GENERAL. YES, TO THE PROJECT, BUT NO TO OPENING. COHEN BEND, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. THANKS. THANK YOU. ANITA. YOU AS WELL KNOW THE DEAL. ANITA. 
          708 PALOMA DRIVE. GOOD EVENING MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WANT TO TALK TO ABOUT THE CREDIBILITY TONIGHT, SPECIFICALLY WHETHER THIS COUNCIL CAN RELY ON THE INFORMATION THAT THIS DEVELOPER HAS PRESENTED TO JUSTIFY A YES VOTE. START WITH THE OWNERSHIP CLAIM AT THE JUNE 25TH PLANNING AND ZONING HEARING, FORMER MAYOR TROY HILL TOLD THE COMMISSION. AND I'M QUOTING FROM THE TRANSCRIPT, WE DO HAVE A NEW DEVELOPER THAT HAS BEEN IN CHARGE FOR PROBABLY THE LAST 6 OR 7 MONTHS. WILLIAMSON COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT SHOWS THE CURRENT OWNERSHIP ENTITY HAS HELD THIS PROPERTY SINCE JULY 2021. NEARLY FOUR YEARS, NOT SIX MONTHS. AS STATED AT PNC, THIS IS PUBLIC RECORD. ANYONE CAN LOOK IT UP TODAY. 
          THEN THERE ARE THE LIENS. THE DEVELOPER TOLD ME LIENS WERE RESOLVED. WILLIAMSON COUNTY CLERK RECORDS STILL SHOW AN ACTIVE MECHANIC'S LIEN FILED BY LEVY ARCHITECTS, WITH NO RELEASE INSTRUMENT ON FILE AND A PARTIAL RELEASE ONLY ON THE ASSESSMENT. TISDALE GASOLINE 
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PARTIALLY PAID IS NOT RESOLVED. THE COUNTY RECORD IS THE RECORD ON THE HYDROGEOLOGY. THE DEVELOPER CITED A BARTON SPRINGS EDWARDS AQUIFER CONSERVATION DISTRICT STUDY. 
          THE AUSTIN FORMATION STUDY FROM THE GREG WELL FIELD IN MANCHACA, HAYS COUNTY TO SUPPORT THEIR CLAIM THAT NEIGHBORING WELLS WOULD BE UNAFFECTED. I CONTACTED ONE OF THE COAUTHORS OF THAT STUDY DIRECTLY. DOCTOR BRIAN SMITH, PRINCIPAL HYDROGEOLOGIST, CONFIRMED IN WRITING THAT THE STUDY DOES NOT TRANSLATE TO WILLIAMSON COUNTY, THE STUDY'S OWN LANGUAGE STATES IT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AN EVALUATION OF UNREASONABLE IMPACTS, AND CALLS FOR FURTHER STUDY DONE BEFORE CONCLUSIONS CAN BE DRAWN. THE WATER TESTED WAS CARBON DATED AT 41,000 YEARS OLD, WITH NO MODERN RECHARGE SIGNAL. THAT IS THEIR FOUNDATION. THEIR NEIGHBOR WELL SAFETY CLAIM WAS BUILT ON THEIR OWN HYDROGEOLOGISTS. IN A MEMO DATED THREE DAYS AGO, BASED ON DATA WITHHELD FROM P AND Z WRITES ON PAGE FOUR, AND I'M QUOTING DIRECTLY THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF EXISTING ACTIVE WELLS POTENTIALLY AFFECTED CANNOT BE RELIABLY DETERMINED AND IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS EVALUATION. THEIR Q AND A TELLS THIS COUNSEL ZERO IMPACT ON NEIGHBORING WELLS. THEIR OWN SCIENTISTS SAY IT CANNOT BE RELIABLY DETERMINED. THERE IS NO BOND, NO REMEDIATION FUND, NOR ENFORCEABLE COMMITMENT IF NEIGHBORS WELLS ARE AFFECTED. 
          EVERY TIME I'VE GONE BACK TO THE PRIMARY SOURCES, THE DEED RECORD, THE LIEN, THE AUSTIN STUDY, AND NOW THEIR OWN HYDROGEOLOGISTS CONCLUSION, THEY CONTRADICT WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN THIS ROOM. I'M ASKING FOR A NO VOTE TONIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. 
          MOHAN MARCHETTI. HI. IF YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. MADAM MAYOR, RESPECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AS WELL AS SERVICE TO THE CITY. I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU ALL THIS EVENING. SO HERE ARE MY FEW THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SHARE AS COMMENTS PUBLICLY ON RECORD. LEANDER NEEDS BOLD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND I WELCOME PROJECTS THAT CAN STRENGTHEN OUR COMMERCIAL TAX BASE AND ALSO CREATE NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR COMMUNITY. BUT GROWTH AND INFRASTRUCTURE HAVE TO MOVE TOGETHER. MY CONCERN IS NOT SIMPLY THE LAGOON ITSELF, IT'S THE CUMULATIVE DEMAND THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT COULD PLACE ON WATER, WASTEWATER, ROADS AND AS WELL AS CITY INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          BEFORE WE COMMIT TO ADDITIONAL DENSITY, WE SHOULD ALSO HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SUPPORT IT, AND THE EXISTING RESIDENTS ARE NOT LEFT TO CARRYING AN UNREASONABLE INFRASTRUCTURE BURDEN. I'M ASKING FOR RESPONSIBLE GROWTH. LEANDER SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN AN ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND WATER SECURITY. GOOD DEVELOPMENT SHOULD PLAN FOR BOTH. AND THE LAST FEW COMMENTS, I WOULD SAY, AND FOR THE RECORD, IS A DEVELOPMENT CAN BE PLANNED. WATER IS SCARCE, WATER IS PRECIOUS, AND INVESTOR CAN MAKE MONEY ELSEWHERE. BUT ONCE GIVEN. ONCE THIS PROJECT GOES LIKE WITHOUT ANY MODIFICATIONS, IT'S GOING TO CREATE AN IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY FOR OUR WELL OWNERS, FOR OUR RESIDENTS, FOR OUR CITY. AND I DO NOT WANT, AS A RESIDENT OF LEANDER, AS A RESIDENT, I DO NOT WANT A FAILED PROJECT FOR LEANDER AND AS WELL AS STAY IN THE HISTORY. LEANDER. THANK YOU. CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS? YOU MISSED THAT PART. YES, MA'AM. 3141 DURANGO HILLS DRIVE, LEANDER, TEXAS. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT, ROBIN STEPHENS. THEN WE HAD TWO CARDS FOR YOU. OKAY. 
          THOSE ARE ALL OUR CARDS. GIVE YOURSELF A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. SO SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT COMPLETED A CARD THAT MAILED THE COMMENTS IN ONLINE, SENT AN EMAIL, EVERYBODY THAT SPOKE AND THOSE WHO JUST WANTED THEIR POSITION READ INTO THE RECORD. WE APPRECIATE YOU PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROCESS. AND NOW IT'S UP TO COUNCIL TO DELIBERATE. NOW THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED, COUNCIL, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DELIBERATE, TO ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I KNOW I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS OF THE DEVELOPER. IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK UP AND WE MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS OF DIRECTOR GRIFFIN. AND THEN I'LL START WITH PRO TEM AFTER, AND WE'LL GO DOWN AND GET EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM. DURING YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU DID A POLL AT SOME POINT. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW 
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MANY PARTICIPANTS WERE CONTACTED AS A PART OF THAT POLL? I THINK MULTIPLE THINGS I DID. IN FACT, WE DID ONE JUST LIKE THIS AFTERNOON. AND OKAY, I THINK IT'S MOST OF THE TIMES IT'S AROUND, I WOULD SAY BETWEEN 50 TO 100, KIND OF IT'S NOT LIKE A BIG NUMBER, BUT IT'S LIKE A MULTIPLE THINGS. AND THEN SOME OF THEM DIRECT POLLS, SOME OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY SAYING, OKAY, WHAT DO YOU GUYS LIKE KIND OF THING? SO IF YOU'RE ASKING ME WHAT THE RESULTS, I CAN GIVE YOU SOME INDICATION. YEAH, I WAS JUST WONDERING IT, IT SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS A FOR SURE THING. WE'VE CONTRACTED WITH SOMEBODY OR WE DID SOME KIND OF OFFICIAL POLL. 
          SO I WAS JUST WONDERING OF THE POLLS YOU DID HOW MANY ACTUAL PEOPLE WERE A PART OF THAT? I MEAN, I WOULD SAY LIKE SAY 50 TO 100. OKAY. BUT THESE ARE ALL ONLINE. OKAY. LIKE I DIDN'T ENGAGE OUTSIDE PERSON. OKAY. AND WERE YOU ABLE TO VERIFY IF THE PARTICIPANTS ARE ACTUALLY LEANDER RESIDENTS? YEAH. FOR SOME OF THEM NOT. BUT FOR ONE OF THE POLL THAT WE DID, WHICH IS BASICALLY WE ASKED EVERYBODY TO VOTE, WHICH IS IN THAT ONE, WE SPECIFICALLY ASKED, ARE YOU A LEANDER RESIDENT? THEY SAID THEY HAVE TO SAY YES OR NO. SO WE HAVE ENOUGH VOTES THAT WE RECEIVED. I'M HAPPY TO SHARE ON A DAILY BASIS WHAT WE RECEIVED. OH NO. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW. 
          TYPICALLY WHEN WE GET INFORMATION, PEOPLE WILL SHARE THEIR ACTUAL ADDRESS AND WE CAN VERIFY THAT AGAINST VOTER ROLLS OR OTHER INFORMATION TO VERIFY NAMES AND EMAILS. AND THEN THERE WAS THAT THEY SAID YES OR NO. GOTCHA. MY OTHER QUESTION WAS REALLY ABOUT, I KNOW THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE BY SOMEBODY AT SOME POINT ABOUT THE WILLS AND THAT I GUESS YOU ALL HAVE A PRESENTATION, THAT THERE ARE NO WILLS DIRECTLY IN YOUR. BESIDE. IT'S LIKE AROUND OUR HYDROLOGY. 
          HYDROGEOLOGIST DID THE STUDY AND THEY FOUND LIKE AROUND 140, THE VERIFIABLE WELLS. AND THEN THAT'S WHAT THEY USE THE, THEIR ANALYSIS BASED OFF OF. AND THEN WE PRODUCE THAT REPORT AND GAVE IT TO ALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND THEN ALSO WE KIND OF PUT OUR OWN THOUGHTS AROUND THAT. AND THEN BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE SAID THAT REFER TO THE ACTUAL STUDY BECAUSE THAT'S THE REAL ONE STAMPED AND EVERYTHING. SO HOW MANY WELLS ARE WITHIN THREE MILES OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT? YEAH. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. LIZ FERRY I'M A HYDROGEOLOGIST, SO YOU CAN DO A DATABASE TEXT FOR DEVELOPMENT HAS A DATABASE THAT YOU CAN PULL ALL THE WELLS AND YOU CAN DOCUMENT WHAT'S PUBLICLY THERE AND AVAILABLE. BUT WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE BECAUSE THERE'S T-C-E-Q HOLDS A DATABASE OF PLOTTED WELLS BECAUSE THAT'S BEFORE PRIOR TO WELL, REPORTS WERE REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED. SO THERE'S PROBABLY MULTIPLE. 
          WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S MAYBE MORE WELLS THAN THAT, BUT Y'ALL DON'T HAVE A CLAIM THAT THERE ARE NO OFFICIAL WELLS IMPACTED BY YOUR DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. MY OTHER QUESTION, SOMEBODY RAISED A CONCERN ABOUT LCRA AND PVC NOT BEING CONTACTED BY YOU GUYS. SO CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THAT PROCESS? WHEN DID YOU CONTACT THEM TO MAKE SURE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE POWER AND, AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT? THIS PROPERTY HAS A HOME AND THAT HAS THE POWER SO THAT WHOEVER IS SAYING THAT THERE IS NO POWER TO THAT PROPERTY. NO, I DON'T MEAN POWER TO THE PROPERTY. I MEAN POWER FOR THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT, THE SIZE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. YEAH, I, I CAN GET BACK ON THE SPECIFICS, BUT RIGHT NOW I DON'T HAVE IT. OKAY. 
          SO AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THE DEVELOPER WAS HANDLING MOST OF THESE THINGS AND NOW I TOOK OVER. SO I'M, I'M GETTING ALL THE DETAILS I CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON THE SPECIFICS OF THAT. 
          IS THAT NOT A PART OF Y'ALL'S PROCESS? AND SURE. OKAY. WE HAVE THE DATA WITH OUR ENGINEERS AND EVERYBODY ELSE. I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME RIGHT NOW. GOTCHA. OKAY. I WILL TELL YOU, FOR ME ON YOUR PAGE, IT SAYS THE INVESTMENT CASE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT SLIDE THAT IS IN YOUR DECK, BUT. I THINK IT'S TOWARDS THE END. ACTUALLY, IT'S THE LAST PAGE. I'M SORRY. IT'S THE VERY LAST PAGE. IT'S THE LAST PAGE. GENERATIONAL OPPORTUNITY. YES. IT SAYS GENERATE. THANK YOU. GENERATIONAL OPPORTUNITY. THERE YOU GO. YOU PASSED IT. OKAY. OOPS. THERE YOU GO. SO IN THE LITTLE GREEN BOX, WHICH IS A LITTLE HARD TO READ, IT MAKES A CLAIM IN HERE THAT YOU WANT 
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CONTINUED SUPPORT OF YOUR CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENT THROUGH ECONOMIC INCENTIVES IF THEY WANT, BUT THAT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY A PART OF THIS REQUEST. CORRECT. AND THAT 380 AGREEMENT IS EXPIRED. SURE. SO BUT IT'S STILL SHOWING UP IN YOUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT. SO I WANTED TO BE CLEAR, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THIS IS PART OF THIS THIRD AMENDMENT. FIRST AMENDMENT IS SEPARATE THAN 380 AGREEMENT. SO IF YOU GUYS APPROVE THE AMENDMENT, IF CITY CHOOSES TO PROVIDE THE INCENTIVES FOR THE RESIDENTS, WHICH IS LIKE 40% DISCOUNT AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DISCUSS AS OF NOW FOR THIS ONE, IT'S ONLY FOR AMENDMENT. OKAY. I'M I'M QUESTIONING IT BECAUSE IT SAYS ACTION REQUESTED, WHICH WOULD IMPLY TO ME IT'S A PART OF YOUR REQUEST AS A PART OF TONIGHT AND TONIGHT. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN HERE. AND THAT HADN'T BEEN UPDATED. AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT 380 INCENTIVE AGREEMENT IS EXPIRED. THAT'S BEEN EXPIRED. AND THAT'S NOT THAT'S CONCERNING FOR ME THAT IT'S STILL LEFT IN THIS PRESENTATION FOR IT. SO THAT THAT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC FOR ME. BUT ALSO MY CONCERN WOULD BE I AM NOT AGREEABLE TO THE CITY PROVIDING EMERGENCY WATER AT ALL FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND I KNOW THAT THAT IS A PART OF, I GUESS, WHAT A BACKUP PLAN. I DON'T THINK THE CITY SHOULD BE A BACKUP PLAN. IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY THING. WHAT WE REQUEST, WHAT WAS WHAT WE AGREED AS PART OF THIS AMENDMENT IS IT WAS ORIGINALLY WATER WAS LIKE AS A BACKUP. BUT WE MADE SURE THAT AS PART OF THIS THING, WE MADE IT NON-ESSENTIAL. WHAT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? BASICALLY, WHEN IF THERE IS A NEED FOR WATER, YOU DON'T NEED TO PROVIDE IT. IT'S PRETTY CLEAR. IT'S IN THE AMENDMENT. IT'S CLEARLY WRITTEN THAT LAGUNA IS A NON NON-ESSENTIAL PIECE OF IT. SO EVEN WE REQUEST YOU DON'T NEED TO GIVE IT. WELL, YOU SHOULDN'T REQUEST IF YOU DON'T. SO LET'S SAY THAT WELL FOR SOME REASON DOESN'T WORK. YEAH. WE CAN ALWAYS OUR BACKUP COULD DO IT OR WE CAN GO GET THE WATER FROM, I DON'T KNOW, TANKERS OR WE CAN DO WHATEVER IT IS. BUT AGAIN, IT'S PART OF THE AMENDMENT. BASICALLY, IT'S A BACKUP OPTION. AND IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO GIVE IT, THAT'S OKAY. MY LAST QUESTION AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OTHER FOLKS ON COUNCIL IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD. IS YOUR WELL REALLY OR THE WELL, THE WATER YOU'RE PLANNING TO USE REALLY UNRESTRICTED AND UNREGULATED. SO WHO WHO WOULD KEEP YOU FROM OVERPUMPING? OKAY, SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU GOT A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE DETAILS THAT WE PROVIDED. I JUST WANT YOU TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD VERBALLY, BECAUSE WE'RE STANDING HERE. 
          THE DOCUMENT CLEARLY STATES THAT WE'RE OKAY TO PUT A METER ON THE WELL, AND THAT DATA, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT ALMOST ON A REGULAR BASIS, WHETHER IT'S A DAILY OR WEEKLY, WHATEVER IT IS. SO THAT'S HOW IT WOULD BE AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE AGREEING TO DO IT. A METER, THOUGH, MEASURES HOW MUCH YOU'RE USING. IT DOESN'T REGULATE IT HOW MUCH WATER WE'RE PUMPING. YEAH. SO AGAIN, WE ALL WE NEED IS ONLY APPROXIMATELY SIX GALLONS PER MINUTE KIND OF OUTPUT, WHICH IS NOT A BIG NUMBER. IT'S LIKE LESS THAN TEN HOMES KIND OF WORTH OF WATER. AND SO WE ARE NOT INTEND TO USE MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED IT. 
          ONLY FIRST TIME IS WHEN WE NEED IT TO FILL IT. AFTER THAT WE DON'T NEED, BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY WE ARE USING, WATER TECHNOLOGY RECYCLES UP TO 95% OF THE WATER, SO YOU'RE NOT LOSING MUCH WATER. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NO ONE WHO WILL ACTUALLY COME AND REGULATE YOUR ABILITY TO OVER PUMP, BECAUSE IT IS NOT A CONSERVATION DISTRICT. AND ALL THESE PRIVATE WELLS THAT ARE PUMPING FOR WHATEVER THE REASON THAT THEY'RE PUMPING IN, NOBODY CAN CONTROL THEM. AND WHEREAS WE ARE AGREEING TO PUT A METER, WE ARE AGREEING TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. AND SO WE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE UNLIKE OTHER WHOEVER THEY CAN PUMP WHATEVER. 
          OKAY, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO PRO TEM FOR YOUR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. WHEN WE MET, I HAD ASKED ABOUT BREAKING DOWN. SINCE THIS IS A PHASED PROJECT ABOUT YOUR REVENUE STREAMS TO BREAK IT DOWN BY PHASE. SINCE PHASE ONE IS THE LAGOON APARTMENTS AND 100,000FT■!S OF COMMERCIAL. AND THEN MOVING ON. SO BUT I NEVER GOT THAT INFORMATION. AND I KNOW WHEN WE MET, YOU'D SAID THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT FOR THE SECOND PHASE. NO, FOR FOR FOR ALL THE PHASES THAT YOU WERE GOING TO BREAK DOWN THAT 225 MILLION AS TO WHAT WHAT YOUR ESTIMATES ARE PER PHASE. SO I MEAN, ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS FOR THE DIFFERENT PHASES, IT'S BASED OFF OF WHATEVER THAT WE ULTIMATELY BASED OFF OF THE 
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DEMAND OF THE MARKET, RIGHT? WE CANNOT DECIDE TODAY. AND THEN THOSE WHATEVER THE. ESTIMATES WOULD BE CHANGING BASED OFF OF THE MATERIAL LABOR COST A LOT OF OTHER OTHER FACTORS. RIGHT. 
          AND THEN IN TERMS OF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO JUST BUILD ANY OF THESE THINGS WITHOUT HAVING A SPECIFIC NUMBER. FOR EXAMPLE, ALL WE CAN BUILD IN EACH EACH PHASE IS ONLY 400 UNITS. THAT'S IT. WE CANNOT BUILD MORE THAN THAT. AND THEN WE AGREED TO DO LIKE 100,000 SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIAL FOR EACH PHASE. SO THOSE THINGS ARE ALL PART OF THE ORIGINAL PART, RIGHT? I GET THAT, BUT ON YOUR ON THE, YOU'VE GOT ALL DISTRICTS COMBINED 225.2 MILLION, WHICH IS GREAT AND FINE. WELL, IT SAYS IT'S THE TOTAL PROJECT. NO, NO, TOTAL PROJECT IS A LOT MORE. 
          THIS IS FOR PHASE ONE. BECAUSE IT HAS A LOT OF COMPONENTS INVOLVED. SO ALL OF THIS IS THE ENTIRE PROJECT OR JUST YOU'RE SAYING IT'S PHASE ONE. NO. THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT THE NUMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO PRODUCE FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. AND SO $225 MILLION THING, WE ENGAGED. A COMPANY THAT DOES THESE ANALYSIS. WHAT IS THE IMPACT OVERALL? WHAT IS THAT IT GENERATES BASED OFF OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS, TOTAL NUMBER OF HOTEL KEYS. RIGHT, EXACTLY. ETC. SO WE HAVEN'T BROKEN DOWN BY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T. OKAY. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN WE MET THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE NUMBERS. AND I NEVER GOT THEM. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION. NO WORRIES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. PLACE FIVE OR DO YOU WANT ME TO GO THE OTHER END? ARE YOU STILL WHATEVER YOU WANT, WHATEVER YOU WANT. GO FOR IT. THANK YOU. CAN I MAKE A COMMENT REAL QUICK ON THAT? ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT WE WERE PLANNING TO GO THROUGH, AND IT'S THE VERY FIRST ONE. 
          OKAY, THIS IS A MIXED USE PROJECT. IT'S IN ROCKWALL. IT IS THE CLOSEST THING, IN MY OPINION, TO WHAT THIS COULD BE. WE NEVER KNOW WHETHER A PROJECT'S GOING TO END UP LIKE THAT. THAT'S THE FRUSTRATING THING ABOUT WHAT WE DO. WE HAVE TO TAKE THE DEVELOPER'S WORD. 
          WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THEIR HISTORY, AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PROJECT ITSELF. I HAVE ALWAYS HAD THE BELIEF THAT THIS PROJECT WAS GOOD ENOUGH, THAT IT WOULD END UP BEING CLOSER TO, TO WHAT IT'S REPRESENTED THAN ALMOST ANY OTHER PROJECT THAT'S EVER COME THROUGH HERE. 
          CERTAINLY, WE KNOW THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT SHOWED PRETTY PICTURES AND REPRESENTED. 
          THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE, AND IT'S NOTHING LIKE IT. THIS IS GOOD ENOUGH THAT I BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BE FOR THIS, WHICH IS IN ROCKWALL, TEXAS. IT IS THE HOTEL. YOU GIVE UP THE LAGOON. YOU DON'T GET THAT HOTEL UNLESS YOU'RE ON A LAKE. SO THE ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR ROCKWALL, WHICH IS 50,000 PEOPLE, IS $129 MILLION IN TOURISM PER YEAR. THAT IS THE ONLY TOURIST DESTINATION IN ROCKWALL. SO CAN WE SAY THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT, IF WE BUILD THE LAGOON THE WAY THAT IT'S INTENDED TO, WILL BE CLOSE TO THIS? I BELIEVE IT WILL. I BELIEVE IF YOU LOOK AT TEXAS CITY, IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE OTHER LAGOONS ARE, THEY ARE A DESTINATION. SAN ANTONIO OPENED THEIRS IN MARCH AT THE HYATT REGENCY. THE HYATT REGENCY IS A GREAT HOTEL, HAD A LAZY RIVER. GUESS WHAT? IT'S EVEN BETTER NOW. IT ALSO SITS ON THE EDWARDS AQUIFER. SAN ANTONIO GETS ALMOST ALL OF ITS WATER FROM THE EDWARDS AQUIFER, YET THEY APPROVED A TWO ACRE LAGOON, SO THEY'RE BEING BUILT. THERE'S FOUR IN DALLAS, THERE'S THREE IN HOUSTON. THERE'S ONE NOW IN SAN ANTONIO. THERE WILL BE ONE BUILT HERE. I ALWAYS FELT IT WAS A GOOD PROJECT FOR THE CITY. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS. NOBODY WANTS TO WASTE WATER. I WORK WITH WATER EVERY DAY. I WANT TO STAY FOCUSED ON. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES. 
          OKAY. PLACE FIVE. OKAY. I DO WANT TO STATE THAT I AM EXTREMELY APPRECIATIVE OF THE 
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COMMUNITY COMING OUT AND EXPRESSING ALL OF YOUR DIFFERING VIEWS, WHETHER PRO OR CON. IT'S DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO DO THAT. IT'S STRESSFUL IN CERTAIN INSTANCES AND YOU'RE NOT ACCUSTOMED TO PUBLIC SPEAKING. SO I'M LOOKING AT YOU. SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING, TAKING THAT EFFORT AND, AND LETTING US KNOW WHAT YOUR VOICE IS. AND, AND THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT IN THESE TYPES OF DECISIONS BECAUSE THE WAY THAT WE'RE STRUCTURED AS A, AS A HOME RULE IS THE CITIZENS ARE AT THE TOP OF THAT ORG CHART. SO THAT'S SUPER, SUPER IMPORTANT TO THE PROCESS. SO WITH THAT SAID, I WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE FACT THAT YOU DID THE HYDROLOGY STUDY THE WAY THAT YOU DID. THE FINDINGS, I THINK ARE IMPORTANT TO CONSIDERATION ON THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM PEER REVIEWED JUST BECAUSE THAT'S A NORMAL PROCESS. THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS IN THERE. THE WELL COUNT OBVIOUSLY IS SOMETHING THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO, AGAIN, PEER REVIEW, GET SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON THAT. I BELIEVE THAT, AND I'M NOT A HYDROLOGIST, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE THE THREE MILE RADIUS IS, IS, I THINK, A LITTLE TOO CONSERVATIVE IN MY OPINION. I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AQUIFER THAT THAT BASICALLY GOES, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF MILES. SO YES, I HAVE A PRESENTATION. CAN I SHOW SOME OF THESE THINGS REAL QUICK? OKAY. THROUGH ANOTHER, THERE'S SOME STRUCTURAL FAULTS IN THE OUTCROP OF THE AQUIFER IS ALL WITHIN THAT THREE MILE RADIUS. AND SO THOSE KIND OF START LIMITING GROUNDWATER INTERACTION AND IMPACTS THE AMOUNT OF NUMBER OF WELLS. WE DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE NOBODY WENT OUT AND SITE VERIFIED ANYTHING. IT'S JUST THE IMPACTS ARE JUST WITHIN THAT THREE MILE RADIUS. IT'S A CONE OF DEPRESSION. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE RIGHT AT THE WELL ITSELF. AND IT SLOWLY GETS LESS AND LESS AS IT GOES RADIALLY FROM THE WELL SITE. RIGHT. AND YOU CAN UNDERSTAND SOME TREPIDATION IN THAT, JUST IN THE SENSE THAT YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES. IF IT WAS THE ONLY, WELL, THEN I'D BE LIKE, OH, OKAY, MAYBE THIS WORKS. BUT WHEN YOU START TO PUT IN TO ACCOUNT THE WELLS THAT ARE UNACCOUNTED FOR, ESSENTIALLY WITHIN THE WITHIN THE SURVEY ITSELF, THAT'S PROBLEMATIC. 
          WELL, I WOULD JUST SAY IF YOU'RE IN THAT RADIUS, YOU WILL BE AFFECTED. THAT'S THAT'S WHY YOU CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR IT. RIGHT? RIGHT. BUT THAT'S 500, RIGHT? WHEN THE WATER GOES DOWN AND IT'S, IT'S A BOWL. AND IF THE WATER GOES DOWN, THE WATER GOES DOWN. EVERYBODY WITHIN THAT RADIUS. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAINLY WELLS THAT AREN'T, AREN'T. SO THAT THIS IS UNFORTUNATE. I MEAN, I, I, I'VE SEEN THIS PROJECT SINCE I MOVED HERE. THIS, THIS PROJECT HAS, HAS BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION IN GREATER LEANDER. AND, AND IT'S, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE WATER SITUATION HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED ON A MORE. PROACTIVE BASIS. THE STATE ONLY IN 2025 PUT TOGETHER $7.5 MILLION STUDY ON WATER THROUGHOUT THE STATE. 
          SO IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ON CLEARLY TO BE ABLE TO FORECAST THESE THINGS OUT SO THAT THAT BECOMES A REALLY KIND OF THE THE SEED OF THE ISSUE. FOR ME PERSONALLY, I LIKE A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT ASPECTS OF THIS. THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS, I THINK ARE GOOD, BUT I DO FEEL THAT THE, THE, THE WE'VE BEEN STUCK ON THIS SAME CONVERSATION FOR A WHILE. AND WHILE IT WAS VERY ASPIRATIONAL AND ITS ORIGINAL INTENT AND ORIGINAL CONCEPT, I THINK THE MARKET HAS MOVED. I THINK THE MARKET HAS CHANGED. AND WE HAVE GREATER COMPETITION FOR THE TYPE OF ECONOMIC IMPACTS THAT ARE SUGGESTED WITHIN THIS PROJECT. I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY HERE. I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS AN OPENNESS AND AN AGREEMENT ON BOTH PARTIES PART TO TO REEXAMINE SOME OF THE ASPECTS OF THIS. YOU KNOW, AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S EFFORTS IN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS ONE PARTICULAR DECISION, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO SEE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR OUR TAX CONSIDERATIONS AND THE WAY THAT WE LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING FINANCIALLY AND IN THE LONG TERM PRODUCTIVITY OF OUR OF OUR TAX BASE FOR THE CITY. 
          BUT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF PROBLEMS. THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES AND UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, AND IT REALLY CAUSES A LOT OF HESITATION. I, I'D LOVE TO SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, REEXAMINE THIS AND, AND, AND FIND SOMETHING ELSE. I THINK 
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THAT'S A SENTIMENT ECHOED BY OUR CITIZENS. SO YEAH, THAT'S LIKE I SAID, THIS ONE'S THIS ONE'S HARD. THIS IS DIFFICULT. CAN I RESPOND TO THAT? I MEAN, I SURE DO YOU NEED A RESPONSE TO RESPONSE? I DON'T NEED I DON'T NEED A RESPONSE. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST AGAIN, THIS IS COMPLEX. THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT. THIS IS JUST MAKING HIS COMMENTS. YEAH, I JUST, I JUST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT YOU AS CITIZENS UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CONSIDER ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS IN MAKING A DECISION HERE. IT'S NOT JUST ONE THING. IT'S A LOT OF STUFF. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT EASY. SO WITH THAT SAID, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. PLEASE, FOR SO I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT, CALLED, TEXTED, MESSAGED ALL THE WAYS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO US SINCE THIS WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA, REGARDLESS OF WHAT SIDE YOU'RE ON, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE ENGAGEMENT. IT'S BEEN AMAZING. AND THAT AND LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER NADINE SAID, THE TOP OF OUR FOOD CHAIN IS OUR RESIDENTS. THAT'S OUR BOSS. I WAS ELECTED TO REPRESENT THEIR BEST INTERESTS, AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY'VE CLEARLY KIND OF SHARED THEIR CONCERNS. I ALSO, I AM A BIG FAN OF WATER, AND I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD AND AND HAVE A DUTY AS A CITY OF LEANDER TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THAT WATER TO OUR NEIGHBORS WHO DON'T LIVE IN OUR CITY. BECAUSE WHILE WE CAN SAY, OH, WELL, THEY DON'T LIVE HERE, MORE THAN LIKELY THEY'RE GOING TO END UP ANNEXED IN HERE SOMEDAY. BUT REGARDLESS, EVEN IF THEY DON'T, WE NEED TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE WATER THAT THEY NEED TO LIVE TO. I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT RAVI IS NOT A BAD GUY. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW I'VE HAD PLENTY OF CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM. HE IS NOT SOME BIG EVIL GUY OUT TO HURT LEANDER. HE'S A RESIDENT HERE. HE LIVES HERE. HIS FAMILY'S HERE. HE IS A DEVELOPER WHO'S TRYING TO DEVELOP THAT LAND. TO THAT END, I MEAN, CLEARLY I HAVE CONCERNS. 
          I HAVE CONCERNS THAT THERE'S NO STATE OF TEXAS LICENSE THAT THIS COMPANY HAS EVER RECEIVED REGARDING CHEMICAL FREE WATER, ESPECIALLY FOR PUBLIC USE, YOU KNOW, AND OTHER CONCERNS LIKE THAT. BUT WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE IS THAT YOU SIT DOWN WITH THE CITY AND REALLY DECIDE WHAT WHAT WE AS A CITY THINK WOULD BE BEST IN THAT SPOT. WE WANT YOU TO MAKE MONEY. WE WANT TAX REVENUE. BUT THIS PROJECT, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. PLEASE. THREE HELLO. I ALSO WANT TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THE FOLKS THAT TOOK THE TIME TO COME OUT HERE. I WAS TALKING TO RESIDENT EARLIER TODAY AND THEY SAID, OH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING OUT. YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG NIGHT. 
          AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, IT'S WORTH IT TO SERVE THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'VE TAKEN THE TIME TO EXERCISE THEIR THOUGHTS AROUND THIS PROJECT, PARTICULARLY SINCE IT'S VERY LANDMARKING IN LOCATION AND, AND ITS IMPACT TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU ALL, WHETHER FOR OR AGAINST. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT AND ALSO STAYING THIS LATE IN THE EVENING. I, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GOING TO CUT TO THE CHASE. I, I DON'T. I DON'T WANT A GOOD ENOUGH PROJECT. I WANT A GREAT PROJECT BECAUSE THIS IS A GREAT CITY. AND SO YOU AND I HAVE SPOKEN DIRECTLY AND HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW, AS SOME OF MY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE STATED, THE IMPORTANT PART IS THAT THERE'S A BALANCE OF IMPACTING THE COMMUNITY THE WAY THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO BE IMPACTED FROM ENVIRONMENTAL, UNREGULATED, YOU KNOW, ENTITIES TO, YOU KNOW, UNVETTED, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL GAINS THAT WE CAN'T REALLY VALIDATE. I, I, YOU KNOW, I'VE GIVEN THE EXAMPLE TO SEVERAL PEOPLE. I REALLY DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET ON A TRAIN TO COME UP TO LEANDER AND GO SWIMMING AND THEN NOT HAVE A WAY TO GET BACK HOME. SO, I MEAN, THE REALITY IS, IS THAT WE JUST NEED A GREAT PROJECT. WE DO WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT THAT REFLECTS ECONOMIC VALUE, BUT ALSO REFLECTS US AS A CITY, PARTICULARLY SINCE IT'S IN A VERY CENTRALIZED LOCATION. 
          AND WE ALSO WANT TO BE, AS PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. 
          THIS WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, AND I WISH THAT THE PROJECT HAD HAVE TAKEN MORE INVESTMENT IN VALIDATING THAT WHEN YOU MAKE. THERE WAS A STATEMENT IN THE 
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PRESENTATION THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, SHIFTED 100% OF MUNICIPAL DRINKING WATER TO AN INDEPENDENT, PRIVATE, DEEP WELL AND THAT THE LOCAL WELLS ARE PROTECTED, THAT YOU CAN VALIDATE THAT, BUT YOU CAN'T TELL ME HOW MANY WELLS ARE IN THE AREA THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED. THAT'S UNVETTED INFORMATION THAT WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH. AND SO I, AS MUCH AS I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF SOMETHING THAT'S AMAZING, THIS IS GOOD ENOUGH IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR LEANDER. AND SO WE NEED JUST TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. 
          OKAY. PLEASE. TWO SO THERE'S A LOT HERE. I'M NOT GOING TO REALLY GO ON AND ON ABOUT THE WATER. I THINK THAT THAT'S BEEN PRETTY WELL BEAT UP. I HAVE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE ECONOMIC FEASIBILITY OF THIS. THIS IS A ZONING CASE. YOU KNOW I WILL SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE WATER. THE THING IS, IS THAT THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN STOP YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T GOING TO SAY IT, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY IT. DON'T TAKE NO TAKE BACKS, SIR. IT'S JUST A QUICK IT'S QUICK. 
          OKAY. SO SO ON THE WATER, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER LIVES ABOVE THAT WATER OWNS THE WATER CAN GET AS MUCH WATER AS THEY WANT OUT OF THERE. AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN STOP THEM FROM TAKING IT IS TO PROVE THAT THEY'RE NEGLIGENT. AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE OTHER TWO, BUT OR THE WASTEWATER. BUT BUT THE THING IS, IS THAT IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE. OKAY. SO ONCE YOU START ALLOWING SOMEBODY TO DO THAT, THEY, I MEAN, LITERALLY THINK THEY COULD THEY COULD TAKE ALL THIS WATER, EXTRACT IT OUT OF HERE. THEY CAN GO SELL IT TO ROUND ROCK. I MEAN, THEY COULD DO THAT ON THAT PROPERTY WITH THE. WELL. SO JUST WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE SAID WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE ABOUT THE TAX MONEY, WE'RE ABOUT ALL THIS OTHER STUFF. AND YOU SAID, OH, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THE CITY WANTS THIS OR WHATEVER. 
          WHAT WE REALLY WANT IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE CITY GETTING MORE TAX MONEY. IT'S ABOUT CREATING MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITIZENS AND HAVING ALL THOSE THINGS AVAILABLE TO THEM. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT. AND SO MY PROBLEM HERE IS THAT WHEN WE APPROVE A ZONING THING, ZONING CASE, ANNETTE AND I SAT IN A MEETING WITH CITY STAFF ABOUT A ZONING CASE THAT GOT PASSED IN, WHAT, 79 OR WAS IT 80? RIGHT. THAT WAS APPROVED. AND WE DIDN'T LIKE WHAT IT IS TODAY, BUT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. AND SO THAT PROJECT'S GOING TO GO FORWARD AND ALL THE NEIGHBORS AREN'T HAPPY. BUT THAT WAS APPROVED 46 YEARS AGO. RIGHT. THINGS HAVE CHANGED. AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS A ZONING CASE COMING FOR US. WE'RE APPROVING WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW ALL THE DETAILS IN HERE. SO FORGET THE WATER. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1200 APARTMENTS WITH WITH A HEIGHT OF 120FT. RIGHT. SO THAT'S BASICALLY 11 STORY APARTMENT BUILDING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HOTEL WITH 95FT HIGH, RIGHT? MAXIMUM FEET AND ALL THAT. SO WE'RE TALKING AN EIGHT STORY HOTEL. AND SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS BRINGING A LOT OF DENSITY TO THIS LOCATION. I REALLY THINK THAT AND YOU SAID IT YOURSELF. YOU SAID IT THE MARK. IT'S GOING TO BE WHATEVER THE MARKET BEARS. RIGHT? SO WE'RE LOOKING AT BASICALLY AN ASPIRATIONAL THING HERE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT IF WE COULD DO THIS. BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. AND WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A PLACE UP THE STREET, NORTHLINE, WHERE THEY HAVE BIG HOPES FOR THERE. AND SO WHAT DO WE DO? WE START SELLING OFF PART. HE STARTED SELLING OFF PART OF IT FOR ENDEAVOR TO DO A MUCH SMALLER STRIP TYPE THING. AND SO IF WE APPROVE THIS, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET. 
          AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT, HEY, WE NEED TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SUITED TO WHAT THE MARKET HAS SO THAT WE CAN WORK WITH YOU TO GET THAT DONE. I JUST THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT. THAT IS A PRIME LOCATION. THAT LOCATION IS JUST BECOME MORE VALUABLE AND MORE VALUABLE AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE DRIVE BY AND GOING UP AND DOWN HERE. AND AS THE OTHER SIDE GETS DEVELOPED AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS COME IN HERE. AND SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, I AND SO RIGHT NOW, ALL YOU CAN BUILD ON IT IS WHAT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, RIGHT. AND A MAXIMUM OF 35,000FT■!S COMMERCIAL, RIGHT. IT'S BASICALLY NOT IT'S NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND, AND IT'S, THERE'S NOT IT'S, IT'S REALLY THE PROPERTY IS NOT YOU'VE PUT ALL THIS MONEY INTO THIS AND THAT'S ALL YOU CAN DO THERE. AND SO I THINK YOU NEED TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY VIABLE, REALLY STRONG. AND THEN WE CAN REALLY TALK SERIOUSLY ABOUT THIS. SO THANK YOU. PLACE ONE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I JUST WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING I THINK THERE'S SOME RICH IRONY IN THAT PLACE. 
          ONE IS THE LAST ONE TO SPEAK. YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT. SO I THINK WE CAN ALL DEAL WITH A LITTLE BIT OF LEVITY THERE. I MEAN, WHAT INTENTIONAL OR NOT INTENTIONAL? WHAT CAN I SAY THAT HASN'T BEEN SAID BY ABOUT 40 OTHER FOLKS AND MY OTHER SIX COUNCIL MEMBERS I'M GOING TO TAP INTO, I GUESS, MY FORMER STAFFER LIFE HERE. AND I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YOU KNOW, READING YOUR PRESENTATION, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF BETTER 
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UNDERSTAND YOU MAKE A LOT OF PRETTY BOLD ECONOMIC CLAIMS HERE. BUT SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHO CONDUCTED YOUR ECONOMIC ANALYSIS? IMPACT DATA SOURCE IS A COMPANY THAT BASICALLY DOES MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT RELATED ANALYSIS. THEY GO FIGURE OUT A LOT OF BASED OFF OF WHATEVER THAT IS PLANNED. SO THEY GO DO THEIR RESEARCH AND THEN THEY COME UP WITH WHAT WOULD BE THE GENERAL IMPACT. AND SO IT'S A VERY REPUTED ORGANIZATION, ACTUALLY PART OF TEXAS. AND. ANY IF YOU GO TO ANY MAJOR CITY, BIG PROJECTS, THEY USE THEM, ESPECIALLY THEY'RE TRYING TO LOOK FOR BIGGER DOLLAR AMOUNT DOLLARS, EXPECTING FROM VARIOUS DIFFERENT SOURCES LIKE POTENTIAL EB FIVE, ETC. YOU GOT TO DO THE RIGHT ANALYSIS AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE JUSTIFIABLE. AND SO, SO THE ECONOMIC IMPACT NUMBERS THAT ARE IN HERE ARE FROM THEM. YEAH. OKAY. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL IF YOU INCLUDED THAT IN THE PRESENTATION. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS, DIFFERENT TESTIMONIES IN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. AND TYPICALLY YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR PRESENTATION AS WE SHARE THE DOCUMENT WITH CITY COUNCIL A LONG TIME AGO. AND STAFF, I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THAT EVER REACHED CITY COUNCIL. I CAN BE SHARED WITH CITY STAFF. SO. I CAN'T TELL YOU. OKAY. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT CAN YOU ALSO EXPLAIN? YOU KNOW, YOU'VE KIND OF MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DRILL THIS PRIVATE THIS WELL, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN WHERE YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS? WE ACTUALLY HAVE DRILLED THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. YOU ALREADY HAVE THIS DONE AND IT PRODUCES 120 GALLONS PER MINUTE KIND OF THING. IT'S WE BECAUSE THE PROJECT HISTORY, IF YOU SEE IT, ORIGINALLY THE WATER WAS SUPPOSED TO COME FROM CITY. CITY HAD CHALLENGES WITH WATER AND A LOT OF ISSUES. SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE PIVOTED TO GO GET THE WATER FROM WELLS. 
          AND SO WE INVESTED PROBABLY TWO 300 K TO DRILL THAT WELL. AND SO WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEEDED TO DO, INCLUDING GETTING PERMITS FROM A STATE LEVEL, ETC. SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND FOR PRESENTING YOUR PROJECT. I WILL SAY THAT TIMING IS EVERYTHING. AND I THINK THAT WHEN THIS PROJECT PROBABLY CAME TO COUNCIL 9 OR 10 YEARS AGO, HOWEVER LONG AGO IT WAS, IT WAS PROBABLY THE RIGHT MOVE AT THAT TIME. BUT THE CITY HAS GROWN AND DEVELOPED AND CHANGED, AND WE AS A COUNCIL HAVE REALLY BEEN FOCUSED ON PRIMARY EMPLOYERS AND WHAT TYPE OF JOBS OR CAMPUSES CAN COME TO LEANDER. 
          WE KNOW A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS ARE LEAVING IN THE MORNING AND COMING BACK IN THE EVENING. WE WANT TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING THAT PREVENTS THAT BY HAVING PRIMARY EMPLOYERS THAT ARE HERE AND AT THAT CORNER, ALL OF THOSE MAJOR CORNERS. THAT'S THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT I THINK WE'D BE VERY EXCITED ABOUT SEEING IN THE CITY, AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT HAS SO MANY QUESTIONS AROUND IT AND THINGS THAT ARE, IT SEEMS LIKE STILL BEING WORKED OUT AND NOT QUITE FIGURED OUT. AND. THERE'S SOME FACTS THAT WE'RE JUST NOT ABLE TO WRAP OUR HANDS AROUND IN, IN MY OPINION, AND THAT I, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT PROJECT AT THIS TIME FOR US. BUT ALSO MY CONCERN IS AROUND I DON'T SEE THIS BEING SUCCESSFUL ANYWHERE ELSE. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMENTS ALLUDED TO THAT OTHER PLACES, BUT THAT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE THIS PROJECT. AND TYPICALLY WHEN I THINK ABOUT LIKE A J.W. MARRIOTT, THERE'S A WHOLE CONVENTION CENTER AND A SPA AND LOTS OF RESTAURANTS THAT ANCHOR A LAZY RIVER, NOT A LAGOON. AND SO IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROJECT, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE HISTORICAL PRECEDENT TO SHOW THAT THEY CAN BUILD IT AND THEY CAN DO IT AND IT CAN BE SUCCESSFUL. AND I DON'T I DON'T SEE THAT HERE. AND SO FOR ME, THAT THAT'S ALSO A CONCERN. I HAVE ONE POINT. YES, SIR. SO WHEN I BACKED THIS PROJECT WITH THAT DEVELOPER FIVE YEARS AGO, OKAY, THAT THAT TIME, IT WAS A GREAT VISION AND LIVE WORK PLAY IS WHERE WHAT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER US. IF YOU GO TO ANY TOWN, THEIR DOWNTOWNS ARE BEING TRANSFORMED TO LIVE, WORK, PLAY, KIND OF TAKE A CEDAR PARK. 
          THEY'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THEIR WHOLE DOWNTOWN INTO DISTRICT. IN FACT, I HAD A PROJECT THERE. 
          I SOLD THAT ONE. SO THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVED IN. IN FACT, PERSONALLY, I WANTED TO GO LIVE IN THIS KIND OF PLACE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR US TO MAINTAIN THIS BIG HOMES. AND YEAH, OF COURSE, PROPERTY TAXES AND ALL THAT STUFF. GOT IT. SO PERSONALLY, I WANTED TO. AND THEN BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, MY KIDS WENT TO LYON. SO I HAD THAT RESPONSIBILITY FEELING 
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THAT, OKAY, I'VE USED 16 YEARS OF THAT THING. WHY NOT CONTRIBUTE BACK? AND THEN I FELT, OBVIOUSLY, I'M NOT A LIKE A NEW YORK DEVELOPER OR ANYTHING OR INVESTOR. FROM THERE, EVERY DOLLAR WE PUT IN IS HARDENED. ABSOLUTELY. AND SO I FELT THAT, OKAY, SINCE THE DEVELOPER COULD NOT MAKE IT WORK, I SHOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO SOMEHOW MAKE IT WORK BECAUSE THAT WAY IT'S BECAUSE I'M COMMITTED THAT THAT'S HOW I TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. 
          SO WITH THAT SAID, THESE KIND OF PROJECTS DO REALLY CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY OR DIRECTION OF CITIES IF THEY WORK, IF THEY EMBRACE IT, ETC. IN THIS SCENARIO, WATER IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE I UNDERSTAND AND IT CAN BE MITIGATED. BUT OBVIOUSLY HEARING, DOING MY OWN POLLS, ETC. IT SEEMS THAT IS LAGOON IS OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S CLEAR INDICATION. AND THEN PARALLELLY, I'VE BEEN HAVING MEETINGS WITH STAFF, WITH INPUT FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, ETC. SO I'M TRYING I KIND OF GOT A LOT OF INPUT FROM EVERYBODY, INCLUDING CITY MANAGERS, REST OF THE STAFF, ETC. AND I HEAR YOU, I THINK SUBURBAN EMPLOYMENT IS IMPORTANT AND THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THEN SIMILARLY, THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER ENTERTAINMENT VENUES MAY NOT BE THIS. RIGHT. SO THAT MAKES SENSE. SO WE HAD A BUNCH OF CONVERSATIONS AS EARLY AS LIKE YESTERDAY ACTUALLY, WE SPENT A COUPLE OF HOURS AND THEN I SAID, OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. LET'S WORK IT OUT. SO HERE IS MY LAST POINT, WHICH IS. BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THESE THINGS. AND I THINK WE ARE, WE HAVE THE MOMENTUM. WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING. A LOT OF COMPONENTS OF THIS ARE GOOD, BUT NOT MAY NOT BE LAGOON. SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS WHY DON'T WE TABLE IT FOR, LET'S SAY 2 TO 4 WEEKS. SO THAT WAY WE ARE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE STAFF, FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, AND SEE WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THIS PROJECT AND COME BACK TO YOU AND LET'S SAY 2 TO 4 WEEKS AND THEN PROPOSE AND THEN SEE WHETHER THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THEN IF IT IS IN IN, IT'S ALIGNED TO THREE CORE MEMBERS OF THIS THING, RIGHT? ONE IS CITY BECAUSE THEY NEED CERTAIN THINGS TO HAPPEN. THE SECOND ONE IS RESIDENTS, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT LIKE WATER LAGOON IS NOT IMPORTANT, RIGHT? SO WE WANT TO OBVIOUSLY FIGURE OUT AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN. ULTIMATELY, IF SOME SERIOUS INVESTORS, DEVELOPERS WANTS TO DO SOMETHING ASPIRATIONAL, SOMETHING IMPORTANT, SOMETHING GOOD, NOT MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING AND THEN POURING MONEY TO DO THESE KIND OF PROJECTS. YOU GUYS KNOW, I MEAN, NORTHLAND IS BEEN GOING THROUGH FOR A LONG TIME STRUGGLING A LOT OF EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD INCENTIVES, ETC. RIGHT. SO I URGE CITIES TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY, EMBRACE THE ENTREPRENEURS AND INVESTORS, SEE HOW WE CAN WORK WITH THEM, HOW WE CAN MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN. SO THAT WAY SUDDENLY IT BECOMES A WIN WIN WIN PERIOD. SO ALL OF THE PEOPLE WILL WIN. SO THAT'S MY PROPOSAL IS IF YOU CAN TABLE FOR 2 TO 4 WEEKS, WE'LL COME BACK WITH AFTER HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE STAFF AND THEN SEE WHETHER WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THAT WORKABLE YOU WANT. I APPRECIATE THAT THAT IS YOUR ASK NOW AT THIS HOUR, BUT THIS HAS BEEN ON AND OFF THE AGENDA MULTIPLE TIMES. WE HAVE BEEN, I FEEL KIND OF THE COMMUNITY HAS JERKED ALONG LIKE, IS THIS GOING TO HAPPEN? IS IT NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE STATE THAT IT'S BEEN PRESENTED? SO I BELIEVE WE NEED TO VOTE ON WHAT IS BEFORE US. AND THEN I'M SORRY, I WAS NOT THE GUY CAME BEFORE. THAT'S WHY IT'S THE PROJECT. AND IF YOU BUY INTO A PROJECT, YOU BUY INTO EVERYTHING THAT COMES WITH IT OR DOESN'T COME WITH IT, AND THAT'S JUST THE PROCESS. SO YEAH, THAT THAT'S NEITHER HERE OR THERE FOR ME. BUT YES, CAN I ASK A INFORMATION? SO IF WE VOTE THIS DOWN, WHEN COULD BE THE EARLIEST THEY COULD BRING IT BACK. SORRY. WHAT'S THE EARLIEST THEY CAN BRING IT BACK. WE VOTE NO. IT'S A SIX MONTHS IF THEY DON'T MAKE A CHANGE. 
          BUT IF HE COMES BACK WITH A NEW PROJECT AS AS SOON AS HE'S READY. YEAH. AND HE'S SAYING HE WOULD BE COMING BACK WITH A NEW PROJECT. SO I'M SAYING TWO WEEKS. I'M JUST SAYING HE SAID IN TWO, FOUR WEEKS. THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE ENTIRE CYCLE OF AGAIN, PNG AGAIN, ALL THOSE THINGS YOU COULD DO IN FOUR WEEKS. AND SO I THINK PROCEDURALLY IT GOES BACK TO, YES, PROCEDURALLY AS AS IT SHOULD. IT'S A NEW PROJECT. SO OKAY, WELL, NOW THAT WE'RE HERE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WHO'S GOING TO MAKE A MOTION? IF NOT, I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION TO DENY A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL, IT IS 1045. 
          WE ARE APPROACHING 11:00, AND WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY AT THAT TIME TO DETERMINE IF WE ARE 
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GOING TO STOP OUR MEETING AND PUT WHATEVER IS LEFT ON ANOTHER AGENDA. SO I'M JUST PRE-WARNING YOU. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE SOME THINGS FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN VOTE ON THOSE THAT WE NEED TO TONIGHT. I WANT TO GET THIS DONE BEFORE. 
          SO ITEM 27. AND WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF NOISE, BUT. 2720 WE NEED TO GET OUR TAX RATE. OH YES, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE AGENDA OUT OF ORDER. WE'RE GOING TO DO ITEM 27 AND ITEM 29. 
          AND THEN IF WE GET TO 11 WE'LL POSTPONE THOSE FOR ANOTHER MEETING. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. 
          [27. Discuss receiving No-New-Revenue and Voter-Approval tax rate calculations; take action to consider a proposed tax rate; and schedule a public hearing date for the proposed tax rate.]
ITEM 27 DISCUSS RECEIVING NO NEW REVENUE AND VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE CALCULATIONS. TAKE ACTION TO CONSIDER PROPOSED TAX RATE AND SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR THE PROPOSED TAX RATE. CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OTIS WILLIAMS GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL PRESENTING THIS ITEM REGARDING THE 2026 PROPERTY TAX RATE CALCULATION, WHICH HAS BEEN CERTIFIED BY THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR. UNDER STATE LAW, THE CALCULATED NO NEW REVENUE RATE FOR THIS YEAR IS JUST UNDER. IT'S ABOUT 43.1 CENTS, AND THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS JUST UNDER 46.8 CENTS. OUR UPCOMING FISCAL 2027 PROPOSED BUDGET IS BUILT AROUND MAINTAINING OUR EXISTING PROPERTY TAX RATE. THAT'S ROUGHLY 41.7 CENTS. THIS CONSISTS OF ABOUT 27.4 CENTS FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, AND APPROXIMATELY 14.4 CENTS FOR DEBT SERVICE. WE CAN COMPLETELY MAINTAIN THIS CURRENT RATE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY BELOW THE NEW THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE BECAUSE LEANDER'S NET ASSET PROPERTY VALUE HAS INCREASED DUE TO NEW NEW DEVELOPMENT. MOVING FORWARD, THE COUNCIL MUST DO THREE THINGS TONIGHT. NUMBER ONE, TAKE A VOTE TO FORMALLY ACCEPT THE 2026 TAX RATE CALCULATION. 
          NUMBER TWO, SET A PROPOSED TAX RATE CEILING OF JUST UNDER 46.8 CENTS. AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE BY DOING SO, WE'RE NOT RAISING THE TAX AT ALL. AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE NEED TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR SEPTEMBER 17TH, WHERE THE FINAL TAX RATE WILL BE CONSIDERED FOR ADOPTION. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE THREE SEPARATE ACTIONS FOR THIS ONE. AND IT WILL BE A ROLL CALL VOTE. 
          SO EACH ONE OF YOU WILL BE CALLED OUT TO ANSWER. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT ANYBODY HAS FOR. I JUST WANT TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER ONE QUESTION. ENTER INTO THE RECORD. 
          CITY MANAGER, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE CITY TAX RATE AND HOW IT'S GOING TO KEEP US IN LINE WITH OUR PAST YEARS? SO THE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE CALCULATION? SORRY, IT'S KIND OF LATE. WORDS DON'T COME OUT. YEAH. THOSE ARE CALCULATED ON THE BASIS OF THE CHANGE IN VALUE. SO WHAT WAS ON THE TAX ROLL FOR THE YEAR PRIOR IS REEVALUATED FOR THE NEW TAX YEAR. AND THEN THROUGH THE SB TWO CALCULATION THERE'S A DETERMINATION OF WHAT TAX RATE REVENUE WOULD NEED TO BE GENERATED THIS COMING YEAR TO GENERATE THE SAME DOLLAR FROM LAST YEAR. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CALCULATION, THERE WAS A DECREASE IN ASSESSED VALUE FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. SO BY HOLDING THE SAME TAX RATE THAT WE HAVE FROM THIS YEAR TO NEXT YEAR ACTUALLY AVERAGES OUT AT A NET REDUCTION OF ABOUT $100 PER HOUSEHOLD IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY COMING OUT OF TAX RATE. THAT'S GOING TO BE GENERATING LESS LEVY PER HOME. THAT WAS ON THE TAX ROLL LAST YEAR. SAY THAT AGAIN FOR THOSE IN THE BACK. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. IT'S IT'S LIKE TRIGONOMETRY. IT REALLY MAKES SENSE. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING IT. 
          SO THE NO NEW RATE SAYS THE SAME AMOUNT, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY GIVING A TAX CUT, RIGHT? THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE ACTUALLY CALCULATES HIGHER THAN THE CURRENT YEAR PROPERTY TAX RATE, BECAUSE OVERALL, THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE ON THE ROLL LAST YEAR THROUGH THE END OF DECEMBER 30TH 1 TO 2025, ACTUALLY HAVE A REDUCED VALUE THAN, ON AVERAGE THAN WHAT WE HAD THE YEAR BEFORE. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. APPRECIATE IT. I WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION BEFORE WE TAKE YOUR MOTION. I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER SPONSELLER HAD A 
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QUESTION. I WAS JUST GOING TO REITERATE THAT THIS IS BELOW THE THE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO BE BELOW THE NO NEW RATE. IT IS. SO THIS THIS IS THE MAX RATE. 
          THIS IS THE MAXIMUM PROPERTY TAX THAT COULD BE ASSESSED. SO COMING IN AT THE 46 CENT RATE GIVES COUNCIL A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM. IF YOU IF YOU FELT YOU NEEDED TO OR IF THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO ADD TO THE CEILING IS JUST THE CEILING IS THERE. THE BUDGET IS BUILT ON 417282, NO CEILING. EXACTLY. SO BETWEEN NOW AND THAT MEETING WERE TO HAPPEN THAT WE WOULD NEED TO COMPLETELY REDO THE BUDGET, RIGHT? YEAH. STAFF IS NOT GOING TO BE PRESENTING TO COUNCIL A BUDGET THAT IS GOING TO EXCEED THE 417282. AND SO IT'S REALLY FOR COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO HAVE GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL LATITUDE. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO ADD TO THE BUDGET. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHEN WE'RE VOTING ON THAT CEILING, THAT WE'RE NOT VOTING FOR THAT AS A TAX RATE. THAT'S JUST THE HIGHEST THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY GO. WHEN WE DO PUT IT TO A PUBLIC MEETING AND VOTE ON IT. THANK YOU. TRUTH IN TAXATION. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE PLACE ONE THAT MADE A MOTION. 
          I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. OKAY, LET ME READ IT. OKAY? OKAY. LET ME PULL THIS UP REAL QUICK. I GUESS YOU HAVE IT. I CAN MAKE, I CAN I CAN MAKE IT. THAT'S FINE. I MAKE A MOTION. THAT ONE. 
          WE ACCEPT THE TAX RATE CALCULATIONS FOR 2026 AS PRESENTED. SECOND. OKAY. SECOND. 
          OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND WE'RE GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL. SO COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG, YOUR VOTE I COUNCIL MEMBER HERRERA YES. COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR I COUNCILWOMAN SPONSELLER I COUNCILMAN NORDIN I PRO TEM. ROSS I AND MAYOR. YES OKAY. IT CARRIES OKAY. AND THEN WE MAKE A MOTION OR I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED TAX RATE CEILING OF 0.467986. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER, CHANG I COUNCIL MEMBER. HERRERA. YES. COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR I COUNCILWOMAN SPONSLER I COUNCILMAN NADINE I PRO TEM ROSS I AND I AS WELL. AND THEN I MAKE A MOTION TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2026. SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG I. COUNCIL MEMBER. HERRERA. YES. COUNCILWOMAN. BLAIR. I. COUNCILWOMAN. 
          SPONSLER. I. COUNCILMAN. NORDIN I PRO TEM. ROSS I AND I AS WELL. SO ALL OF THOSE MOTIONS CARRY. 
          [29. Discuss and consider action on a Resolution authorizing the Brushy Creek Regional Utility Authority, Inc., (BCRUA) to execute a Financing Agreement with the Texas Water Development Board relating to the sale of $36,240,0000.00 Brushy Creek Regional Utility Authority, Inc., City of Leander, Texas Contract Revenue Bonds, Proposed Series 2026 (Brushy Creek Regional Water Treatment and Distribution Project). Brushy Creek Regional Water Treatment and Distribution Project).]
YOU ARE GOOD TO GO, SIR. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM 29. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE BRUSHY CREEK REGIONAL UTILITY AUTHORITY, BCRA TO EXECUTE A FINANCING AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD RELATING TO THE SALE. AND I THINK THIS MEANS $36,240,000. BRUSHY CREEK REGIONAL UTILITY AUTHORITY, INC, CITY OF LEANDER, TEXAS CONTRACT REVENUE BONDS PROPOSED SERIES 2026 FOR THE BRUSHY CREEK REGIONAL WATER TREATMENT AND DISTRIBUTION PROJECT. BRUSHY CREEK REGIONAL WATER TREATMENT AND DISTRIBUTION PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S TWICE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OTIS WILLIAMS. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS ITEM IS REQUESTING COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION FOR THE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING BRUSHY CREEK REGIONAL UTILITY AUTHORITY TO EXECUTE THE FINANCING AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. THIS AGREEMENT RELATES TO THE SALE OF 36.2 MILLION IN CITY OF LEANDER. CONTRACT REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2026. THIS FUNDING IS DEDICATED ENTIRELY TO THE BRUSHY CREEK REGIONAL WATER TREATMENT AND DISTRIBUTION PROCESS. AS YOU RECALL, TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD FORMALLY APPROVED THE TOTAL PACKAGE IN THE AMOUNT OF 72.4 MILLION. THIS WAS BACK IN JULY OF 2025. WE EXECUTED THE LOAN IN TWO EQUAL PARTS AND SUCCESSFULLY TOOK DOWN THE FIRST INSTALLMENT OF 36.2 MILLION IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR. TONIGHT ALLOWS US TO SECURE THE SECOND AND FINAL TRANCHE FOR 36.2 MILLION. THE FINAL INSTALLMENT COMPLETES THE FUNDING PACKAGE AND WILL UTILIZE THE STANDARD 25 YEAR REPAYMENT TERM, WHICH ALIGNS DIRECTLY WITH PREVIOUS DCR. ARE YOU A BORROWINGS? IT'S LATE. 
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IT'S LATE? YES. THE WORDS COME HARD. IT'S LATE. YES. THANK YOU. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION TO KEEP THIS VITAL WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT ON SCHEDULE. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL PLACE THREE. OH, I THOUGHT YOU HAD QUESTIONS. OH, OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, GO FOR IT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OH, I WAS LIKE, ARE YOU OPPOSED? WHAT IS HAPPENING? OKAY. EVERYBODY WAS UP. IT'S IT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT, WE ARE FIVE MINUTES TO OUR 11 P.M. HOUR AND WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION, I GUESS, ABOUT WHETHER WE WANT TO TABLE THE LAST FIVE ITEMS, WHICH WOULD THEN BE ADDED ONTO THE NEXT AGENDA ON SEPTEMBER 3RD OR WHATEVER. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES. SO IF WE TABLE THESE FIVE ITEMS AND THEN THE NEXT MEETING IS LONG, AND THEN WE'RE JUST CONTINUALLY GOING TO PUSH ITEMS OUT OR SO THESE ITEMS, IF WE PUSH, WOULD SHOW UP FIRST ON THAT NEXT AGENDA. AND WE STILL HAVE TIME TO COURSE CORRECT OUR AGENDA BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T PUT IT OUT YET. OKAY. SO IF WE NEED TO MINIMIZE SOME THINGS ON THERE, OR IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO STAY, BUT MAYOR, CAN I MAKE A PROPOSAL REALLY QUICK? IF WE DO. JUST ONE MOMENT, PLEASE. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME TIME SENSITIVITY TO ITEM 28 ON THE AGENDA. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND CONFIRM THAT THAT WAS THE CASE. SO I, I WOULD SAY THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS ITEM NUMBER 28 BASED THE CURRENT BOND CIRCUMSTANCES. I THINK THERE'S A DECISION TO BE MADE THERE. I DON'T THINK SO. 
          WE SPOKE WITH LEGAL AND WE WERE TOLD THAT WE COULD MOVE THAT. WAIT WAIT WAIT. SO WAS THAT INCORRECT INFORMATION. YOU TOOK UP? 2929. I THINK THEY I THINK THEY NEED 28. IS THAT RIGHT? YOU NEED. 28. YES. THEY NEED YOU NEEDED. 28 AS WELL. THAT IS A TIME SENSITIVE. YEAH. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. WELL, COUNCILMAN NADINE BEAT ME TO THE DRAW. THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY. WHY? YOU WERE GOING TO SAY. OKAY, WELL. THANK YOU. I WAS TOLD EARLIER WE 
          [28. Discuss and provide direction regarding an update on the status of the General Obligation Refunding Bonds, Series 2026; the expiration of the parameters ordinance adopted on March 19, 2026; and the Municipal Advisor's recommendation regarding an alternative refunding strategy for 2027.]
COULD PASS ON THAT ONE, SO. OKAY. ITEM THAT'S OKAY. ITEM 28. DISCUSS AND PROVIDE DIRECTION REGARDING AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BOND SERIES 2026. THE EXPIRATION OF THE PARAMETERS ORDINANCE ADOPTED ON MARCH 19TH, 2026, AND THE MUNICIPAL ADVISOR'S RECOMMENDATION REGARDING ALTERNATIVE FUNDING STRATEGY FOR 2027. CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OTIS WILLIAMS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          I'LL BE VERY QUICK ON THIS ONE. THIS IS AN UPDATE REGARDING THE GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BOND SERIES 2026, AND TO SEEK YOUR DIRECTION ON OUR REFINANCING STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD. BACK IN MARCH, COUNCIL APPROVED THE ORDINANCE TO RE REFINANCE OUR 2016 AND 2018 DEBT. AT THAT TIME, MARKET CONDITIONS WERE HIGHLY FAVORABLE. HOWEVER, THAT THAT HAS CHANGED. WE HAVE LOST APPROXIMATELY $500,000 IN SAVINGS. HOWEVER, SINCE MARCH, THE GLOBAL ECONOMIC CONDITIONS HAVE SHIFTED DRASTICALLY AND THAT'S BASICALLY BECAUSE OF THE WAR AND RISING INFLATION OVERSEAS. OUR CURRENT AUTHORIZATION ORDINANCE NATURALLY EXPIRES NEXT MONTH IN SEPTEMBER. WE RECOMMEND ALLOWING THIS CURRENT ORDINANCE TO EXPIRE. WE HAVE OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, MR. CHRIS ALLEN, HERE TONIGHT TO PROVIDE YOU MORE INSIGHT AND STRATEGY GOING FORWARD IN 2027. MR. MR. ALLEN, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MANAGER FOR THE RECORD, CHRIS ALLEN SO AS MR. WILLIAMS MENTIONED, THE PARAMETERS ORDINANCE THAT YOU PASSED ON MARCH 19TH WILL EXPIRE ON SEPTEMBER THE 19TH. GIVEN THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS AND RATES BEING SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN WHERE WE STARTED, WE'RE JUST SUGGESTING OR PROPOSING THAT YOU LET THAT LAPSE UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT WE HAVE A MARKET THAT IS MORE FAVORABLE SO THAT WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND TAKE PROVIDE SAVINGS, DEBT SERVICE SAVINGS. WHAT I WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THAT NEXT YEAR YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER SET OF BONDS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO BE REFUNDED IN MAY. SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING TO DO IS WE JUST, YOU KNOW, IN THE EVENT THE MARKET COMES BACK, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU, BUT WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK UNTIL NEXT YEAR. AND THEN PERHAPS WE CAN COUPLE THIS REFINANCING WITH THE BONDS THAT WILL BE CALLABLE NEXT YEAR IN MAY AND JUST TAKE IT ALL OUT AT THE SAME TIME. AND THAT 
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THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING DOING. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY HAVE COMMENTS DOWN HERE. I'M HERE. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HANGING OUT ALL NIGHT WITH US. I APPRECIATE IT, I APPRECIATE IT A LOT. THANK YOU. THANKS. FIVE AND JUST AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, THIS DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING ON OUR DEBT SERVICING AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS. THESE WOULD BE EFFORTS TO REDUCE OUR DEBT SERVICING. LOOKING AT THIS NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE TO EVALUATE WHAT THE MARKET IS AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME. YES, SIR. I'M NOT OPTIMISTIC, BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PLEASE. IS THERE IS THERE IS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON THAT WE WOULD WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER TO HAVE THIS BOND EXPIRE INSTEAD OF JUST PULLING. SO THE THE PARAMETERS ORDINANCE THAT YOU PASSED GAVE YOU AUTHORIZATION FOR SIX MONTHS. AND IN SEPTEMBER IS WHEN IT EXPIRES. SO WE'RE SUGGESTING NOT COMING BACK TO YOU BECAUSE WE DON'T SEE THAT RATES ARE GOING TO BE THERE GOING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. AND SO WE'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'LL JUST WALK AWAY FROM THIS ONE FOR NOW, BUT HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WHEN WE GET TO MAY, IF RATES ARE, YOU KNOW, BETTER, WE CAN COUPLE IT WITH SOME OTHER BONDS. OKAY. SO THANKS IF IS A BIG WORD. YEAH. PLACE TWO. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, I, I THOUGHT YOU DID. OKAY. THAT'S ALL FOR US. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. WE. OH, WELL, YOU HAVE YOUR DIRECTION. OKAY. SO. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW SINCE IT'S OFFICIALLY AFTER 11 P.M. IT'S 1102. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS? OUR RULES SAY AFTER 11 P.M. IF MORE THAN TWO ITEMS REMAIN ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE FOUR REMAINING, EXCLUDING COUNCIL MEMBER CLOSING REMARKS, THE COUNCIL MAY VOTE ON A QUESTION OF ADJOURNING THE MEETING. POSTPONE ANY REMAINING ITEMS. SO, YES, I'M MAKING A MOTION THAT WE. OKAY. WHAT IS IT? NO, NO, I'M I'M ABOUT TO SECOND. 
          YOU KNOW, HE'S WE HAVE AN ITEM THAT'S EXTREMELY TIME SENSITIVE FOR CLOSED SESSION. WE HAVE TO DO. NO WE KNOW. YEAH YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH YEAH. WE KNOW FOR. YES YES. THOSE TWO ITEMS ON EXECUTIVE. SO YES, WE'RE POSTPONING FOR IN OUR REGULAR AGENDA. AND THEN WE'RE POSTPONING THREE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND ONLY DEALING WITH TWO OF THE ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TONIGHT. YEAH. AND THOSE ITEMS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO DEAL WITH TONIGHT ARE ITEM THREE AND ITEM FOUR ON EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND WE'LL POSTPONE ITEM ONE, TWO, AND FIVE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. IF YOU ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. IT'S YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, I MADE THE MOTION. I'LL SECOND AND STEPHEN SECOND. I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG SECOND. SO WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? OR OPPOSED ONE? OPPOSED. GOT IT. THANK YOU. SO 
          [33. Council Member Closing Statements.]
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THOSE ITEMS AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO COUNCIL MEMBER CLOSING COMMENTS. 
          AND THEN WE WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE WANT TO THANK POPEYES AND LEANDER FOR PROVIDING US DINNER TONIGHT. ALTHOUGH IT'S 1110 AND I HAVE NOT EATEN DINNER TONIGHT, SO GET TO EAT AT SOME POINT. AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT MADE COMMENTS TONIGHT AND CAME TO COUNCIL. I KNOW IT WAS A LONG MEETING, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR TAKING THE TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY AND YOUR EVENING TO BE HERE WITH US AND TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. SO WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THAT PLACE. ONE, JUST ECHO WHAT EVERYONE SAID TONIGHT, WHICH IS JUST REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT AND SPOKE TONIGHT, WHETHER FOR OR AGAINST AN ISSUE. REALLY. WE ANSWERED YOU ALL THE CITIZENS OF LEANDER, AND TO SEE YOU HERE. THE SEATS ARE ALWAYS OPEN THIS WEEK. THERE ARE A LOT UNUSUAL, BUT WE USUALLY HAVE A PRETTY NORMAL CAST OF PLAYERS THAT COME. SO JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH AND HOPE EVERYONE HAS A NICE NIGHT. PLEASE TOO. GOOD NIGHT. PLACE THREE. ALSO, I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SEE WHERE THE CITY IS GOING. SO REALLY APPRECIATE THE DIALOG. 
          AND HOPEFULLY THERE WERE SOME NOTES TAKEN THIS EVENING IN TERMS OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANKS FOR. I GOT A COUPLE COUPLE MINUTES. SO, YOU KNOW, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE ON CITY COUNCIL, WE GET A LOT OF EMAILS FROM, YOU KNOW, UNHAPPY CITIZENS. BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WE GET ONE THAT'S REALLY GOOD. SO I'M GOING TO READ IT. SO I'M NOT GOING TO READ THIS RESIDENT'S NAME. BUT HE CONTACTED MAUREEN JONES, OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALIST, VIA EMAIL, REGARDING A SECTION OF CURBING THAT BUCKLED DUE TO THE EXTREME HEAT. TO MY SURPRISE, SHE REPLIED WITHIN A FEW MINUTES WITH A PROPOSED COURSE OF ACTION, I WAS PREPARED TO WAIT DAYS OR EVEN 
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WEEKS FOR A REPLY. GIVEN THE WORKLOAD OF A PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. SHORTLY AFTER, I RECEIVED A CALL FROM MICHAEL RILEY, WHO EXPLAINED THE SCOPE OF WORK AND ESTIMATED TIMELINE. 
          THE CREW ARRIVED AS SCHEDULED AND COMPLETED THE WORK QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY. A FOLLOW UP VISIT WAS NECESSARY TO FINALIZE THE WORK, AND ONCE AGAIN, THE CREW ARRIVED ON SCHEDULE. AFTER THEIR DEPARTURE, I NOTICED A MINOR ITEM THAT REQUIRED ATTENTION, AND I EMAILED MAUREEN JONES WITH A COUPLE OF PHOTOS. SHE REPLIED SO QUICKLY THAT I WAS ABSOLUTELY STUNNED. 
          IN LESS THAN 30 MINUTES, CUTTER ALEXANDER ARRIVED AND ADDRESSED THE ISSUE. SEVERAL OF HIS TEAMMATES FOLLOWED UP TO BACKFILL THE AREA WITH DIRT AND HOSED DOWN THE SECTION. IN A DAY AND TIME. WHEN CUSTOMER SERVICE SEEMS TO BE MORE OF A PROMISE RATHER THAN A PRACTICE. 
          MAUREEN JONES, MICHAEL RILEY AND THE PUBLIC WORKS CREWS ABSOLUTELY EMBODY AND DELIVER FIRST RATE CUSTOMER SERVICE. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, FRIDAY NIGHT IS STEAK NIGHT AT THE VFW. SO GO HANG OUT. PLACE FIVE SO REAL QUICK. 1920 THE AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION, LATER NAMED THE NFL ORIGINATED IN CANTON, OHIO. 
          SO THE THOUGHT IT WAS TIMELY MAKE IT KIND OF QUICK. AND ALSO IN 1969. MATT, I KNOW YOU WANT SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT ELVIS, BUT IT WAS THE BEATLES FINAL RECORDING SESSION FOR THE VERY LAST TIME, ALL FOUR MEMBERS OF THE BEATLES GOT TOGETHER IN THE SAME ROOM AT ABBEY ROAD STUDIOS. 
          SO WITH THAT, AFTER TONIGHT, I DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU PLEASE TAKE CARE OF YOUR MENTAL HEALTH AND GOOD NIGHT. SWEET DREAMS, SWEET DREAMS. OH OKAY, I LIKE IT. ALRIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 1108 PURSUANT TO ITEM THREE, SECTION 551.071. I'M NOT DONE 
          [34. Convene into Executive Session pursuant to:Section 551.071, Texas Government Code, and Rule 1.05, Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct, to consult with legal counsel regarding proposed settlement of Cause No. 24-0818-C369; DeNucci Constructors, LLC v. City of Leander, et al, in the 368th Judicial District Court, Williamson County, Texas; andSections 551.071 and 551.076, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05, Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding deployment of security devices and contracts related to security devices; andSection 551.071 and Section 551.072 Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05 Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding the acquisition of properties for public purposes and an option agreement for acquisition of real property; andSection 551.071, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05, Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct, and Section 551.072, to consult with legal counsel regarding a lease agreement for City operations; andSection 551.072 Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05 Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding the acquisition of properties for public purposes.]
YET. SECTION 551.072 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND SECTION 1.05 TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE. OH MY GOODNESS. AND AN OPTION AGREEMENT FOR ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY AND FOR SECTION 551.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND SECTION 1.05 TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT AND SECTION 551.072 TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING A LEASE AGREEMENT FOR CITY WE GOT ENOUGH. THE TIME IS 1133 
          [ Reconvene into open session to take action as deemed appropriate in the City Council's discretion regarding:Proposed settlement of Cause No. 24-0818-C369; DeNucci Constructors, LLC v. City of Leander, et al, in the 368th Judicial District Court, Williamson County, Texas; and Sections 551.071 and 551.076, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05, Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding deployment of security devices and contracts related to security devices; and Acquisition of properties for public purposes and an option agreement for acquisition of real property; andLease agreement for City operations; andAcquisition of properties for public purposes.]
AND WE ARE RECONVENING INTO OPEN SESSION. AND BEFORE I DO THAT, I WANT TO SAY HAPPY EARLY BIRTHDAY TO COUNCIL MEMBER NADINE. I RETURNED THAT FAVOR. THANK YOU. SINCE WE HAVE THE SAME BIRTHDAY, WE HAVE THE SAME BIRTHDAY AND SO WE WON'T HAVE A MEETING BEFORE OUR BIRTHDAY. SO WE'RE WISHING EACH OTHER A HAPPY BIRTHDAY. RIGHT? AND I THINK. WHAT? HOW MANY? ME OH, ME 45 DUDE. NO. YEAH. NO, 45. I GOT THAT THE OTHER DAY. SAID DON'T LOOK A DAY OVER 45. I'LL TAKE IT. IS THERE, IS THERE 32? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT'S HAS A BIRTHDAY IN AUGUST? THERE IS ANOTHER AUGUST. WHO'S THE OTHER AUGUST BIRTHDAY? YES. WHAT DAY? 28. OH WELL, YOU KNOW, 28TH, 28TH, 28TH. WE'RE BOTH THE 25TH SO WE'RE COMING UP. YEAH. AUGUST 29TH. GOT IT. SO WE'RE ALL AUGUST BIRTHDAYS. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ALL OF US. SINCE I WON'T SEE Y'ALL BEFORE YOUR BIRTHDAYS, I HOPE YOU HAVE AN AMAZING ONE. SO WE DID ITEM SHOOT, I DON'T KNOW. NOW THREE AND FOUR, ITEM THREE AND FOUR. ALRIGHT. ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE AND AN OPTION AGREEMENT FOR ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY. MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES. APPROVE THE FORM OF OPTION AGREEMENT WITH NORTH LAWN COMMERCE LLC, DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND APPROVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. SECOND. EXCELLENT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? FANTASTIC. AND LEASE AGREEMENT FOR CITY OPERATIONS. MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A TRIPLE NET OFFICE LEAD BUILDING LEASE AGREEMENT BY IN BETWEEN SAINT JOHN PROPERTIES IN THE CITY OF LEANDER FOR 39,348 RENTABLE AREA. THAT'S AWKWARD IN A MIXED USE OFFICE BUILDING LOCATED AT 1133 MAIN STREET, LEANDER, TEXAS AND PAID THE SECURITY DEPOSIT AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AMEN. 
          SECOND, THANK YOU MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? FANTASTIC. IT'S 1135.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.