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[1. Open Meeting.]

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1ST, 2026. AND THE TIME IS NOW 6 P.M. AND THIS IS THE BRIEFING WORKSHOP OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL. CITY SECRETARY CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER STEVEN.

PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. MICHAEL HERRERA HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER TONY BLAIR. PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER ANNETTE SPONSELLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW NADINE HERE.

MAYOR PRO TEM BECKY ROSS, MAYOR NICOLE THOMPSON. PRESENT QUORUM IS PRESENT IN THE CITY COUNCIL

[3. Conduct a tree preservation workshop to discuss the need for near-term amendments to current codes and provide direction to staff on a process to create and implement a tree preservation program.]

IS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS. ITEM THREE WILL CONDUCT A TREE PRESERVATION WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THE NEED FOR NEAR-TERM AMENDMENTS AND CURRENT CODES, AND PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF ON A PROCESS TO CREATE AND IMPLEMENT A TREE PRESERVATION PROGRAM. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ROBIN GRIFFIN. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. SO TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR TREE ORDINANCE. I'M GOING TO START WITH SOME HISTORY. THE CITY OF LEANDER WAS INCORPORATED IN 1978, AND IN 1978 WE DID NOT HAVE TREE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS. WE FAST FORWARD TO 1997. WE DID ADOPT SOME SIGNIFICANT STANDARDS AT THAT TIME. TREE MITIGATION APPLIED TO ALL DEVELOPMENT TYPES. SO COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS, EVERYTHING EVERYONE WAS REQUIRED TO PRESERVE SIGNIFICANT TREES GREATER THAN EIGHT CALIPER INCHES IF THEY WERE TO REMOVE TREES LARGER THAN 18 CALIPER INCHES, THE COMMISSION HAD TO APPROVE IT. THE REPLACEMENT RATIO WAS 1 TO 2. IF IT'S OVER 18 AND 1 TO 1 FOR 8 TO 18, AND AT THAT TIME THEY MEASURED CALIPER INCH AT THREE FEET ABOVE THE NATURAL GRADE. 2005 WAS A BIG TIME FOR LEANDER BECAUSE WE ADOPTED OUR COMPOSITE ZONING ORDINANCE AND WE ADOPTED THAT ORDINANCE. THE TREE STANDARDS CHANGED. THE REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL TREE MITIGATION WERE REMOVED. THEY ALSO ADDED A STANDARD THAT SAID UP TO 50% OF TREES MAY BE REMOVED WITHOUT MITIGATION, AND THEY ADDED A PROVISION FOR AN ALTERNATIVE TREE PRESERVATION PLAN THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO REMOVE TREES OVER 18IN WITHOUT GOING TO THE COMMISSION, AND THEY UPDATED CALIPER MEASUREMENT TO FOUR FEET ABOVE NATURAL GRADE, AND THEY ADDED A FEE IN LIEU OF REPLACEMENT OF $150. THEN, IN 2007, THEY UPDATED THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE TO MIRROR THE ZONING. THIS REQUIREMENT CHANGED TO REMOVE SURVEYS FOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS. THEY WENT TO A STANDARD WHERE YOU WOULD TAKE AN AERIAL, AND THEN YOU WOULD OVERLAY THE LOTS IN THE ROADS, AND IT WAS A DO YOUR BEST PLAN. SO IF IT WAS OUTSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY, YOU PRESERVED IT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEY COULD TAKE IT OUT. AND THERE WAS NO MITIGATION FOR RESIDENTIAL. THEN IN 2014, THIS ONE, I WAS ACTUALLY HERE FOR THE OTHER ONES. I WASN'T 2014. WE ADDED BACK THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY TREE SURVEYS AND MITIGATION. WE ADDED A STANDARD FOR HERITAGE TREE REMOVAL. WE ESTABLISHED THAT IF A TREE WAS OVER 26 CALIPER INCHES IN SIZE, THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN APPROVING THAT REMOVAL, AND THE REPLACEMENT RATIO WAS 3 TO 1. AND THERE ALSO IS A REMOVAL FEE IN THE AMOUNT OF $300 PER INCH. SO YOU PAY THAT FEE REGARDLESS OF THE MITIGATION. SO AS A SUMMARY, TODAY, IF YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, YOU'LL COME IN WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TREE SURVEY WITHIN THE PAST FIVE YEARS. AND AS PART OF THAT SURVEY, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP 50% OF THE CALIPER INCHES OF TREES BETWEEN 8 AND 26IN. HERITAGE TREE REMOVAL STILL REQUIRES A PERMIT THROUGH THE COUNCIL. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE REMOVAL, YOU'RE LIMITED TO THE RIGHT OF WAY DRAINAGE AND EASEMENTS. SO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PRESERVE THE PADS WHERE THE HOMES GO. WE DO HAVE AN OPTION WHERE YOU COULD REQUEST PAD TREE CLEARING, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO PAY THE MITIGATION FEES. AND THEN AT THE BUILDING PERMIT, YOU'LL COME IN WITH A DISTURBANCE ZONE THAT'S FIVE FEET AROUND WHERE THE BUILDING AND THE DRIVES WOULD GO. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY MITIGATION FEES FOR ANY OF THOSE TREES THAT ARE REMOVED.

SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE. THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED. THE GREEN TREES ARE MARKED AS TREES THAT WERE SAVED WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. SO THE ONE THAT I HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, THEY CAME IN LATER WITH A BUILDING PERMIT, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO REMOVE THE 36 INCH TREE WITHOUT ANY MITIGATION, BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN THE FIVE FOOT DESERT DISTURBANCE ZONE AROUND THE HOUSE. SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR OUR LOOPHOLES IN 2014. THAT WAS INTENTIONAL. THEY WERE TRYING TO BENEFIT THE THE BUILDING COMMUNITY AND THE RESIDENTS. SO IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS KNOWN. BUT THIS IS KIND OF PART OF EVOLUTION. SO AS CITIES CHANGE, YOU MIGHT CHANGE YOUR STANDARDS. SO NEXT FOR COMMERCIAL, YOU HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT 50% OF

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THE CALIPER INCHES BETWEEN 8 AND 18 CAN BE REMOVED WITHOUT MITIGATION. BETWEEN 8 AND 26, YOU EITHER GET COMMISSION APPROVAL OR YOU DO AN ALTERNATIVE TREE PLAN. WHEN WE LOOK AT AN ALTERNATIVE TREE PLAN, YOU'RE SHOWING HOW YOU DID YOUR BEST. THERE ARE TIMES WHERE THEY OVER PLANT TREES OR THEY MITIGATE OR SOMETIMES THEY OFFER TO PLANT IN PARKS. WE'VE ONLY HAD THAT A HANDFUL OF TIMES, BUT THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING TO SHOW HOW THEY'RE TRYING TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WITH SAVING TREES. AND THERE'S ALSO CASES WHERE IT'S SO COVERED IN TREES THAT IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE TO NOT SAVE THEM ALL. THE HERITAGE TREE IS REQUIRED TO GO TO COUNCIL. YOU CAN DO TREE REMOVAL IN THE RIGHT OF WAY DRAINAGE AREA AS AN EASEMENT, AREAS IN A PLAT AND THEN AT SITE DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE THE SAME REQUIREMENT FOR SAVING 50% AND 18 TO 26. GO TO COMMISSIONER THE ALTERNATIVE PLAN AND 26 GO TO COUNCIL. SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF A COMMERCIAL PRELIMINARY PLAT. THIS ONE ON THEIR PRELIMINARY PLAT, THEY'RE SHOWING ALL OF THE GREEN CIRCLES. I MARKED THOSE AS ARE HERITAGE TREES.

ALL THE OTHER TREES THAT HAVE A SOLID CIRCLE ARE PROPOSED TO BE SAVED. AND THIS IS PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS. SO THEY ARE SHOWING THE THE DRIVES LIKE YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THERE'S A WATER LINE THAT GOES THROUGH HERE. SO AT THE PRELIM PLAT, WE WERE ABLE TO APPROVE THOSE REMOVALS. AND THEN WHEN WE CAME IN WITH THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, THEY'RE GETTING MORE SPECIFIC WHAT THEY'RE DOING. SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE REQUESTS FOR REMOVALS. THIS IS ONE THAT THE COUNCIL DID EVALUATE. YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SIDE THESE WERE PROPOSED TO BE SAVED. BUT THEN WHEN THEY CAME WITH THEIR SITE, THEY HAD CONFLICTS WHERE THEY REQUESTED TO TO REMOVE THE TREES. SO WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS TO EVALUATE IT. AND THEY WERE ABLE TO REMOVE THEM. SO WE KIND OF LOOKED AT THE ORDINANCE AND WE THOUGHT ABOUT SOME OPTIONS WE COULD CONSIDER. THEY'RE JUST THOUGHTS ON THE ORDINANCE. SO WE'RE OPEN TO TALKING ABOUT WHATEVER Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN. WHENEVER WE UPDATE THESE ORDINANCES, WE DO A STUDY OF SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND CREATE A TABLE AND KIND OF COMPARE WHAT WE DO VERSUS WHAT THEY DO. WE DID THAT IN 2014 AND 2016, SO WE'D BE UPDATING THAT AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT SOMETHING NEW THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE. SOMEONE ELSE IS DOING GREAT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE STILL IN LINE WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES. SOMETHING WE THOUGHT ABOUT IS THE TREE REPLACEMENT VALUE HAS REMAINED AT 150 SINCE 2005. IT'S LIKELY THAT IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE NOW TO REPLACE TREES. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT EVALUATING THE HERITAGE TREES THRESHOLD, SO MAYBE CONSIDERING A SMALLER SIZE TREE TO BE A HERITAGE TREE. UPDATING THE CALIPER INCH MEASUREMENT TO 4.5FT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES REQUIRING TREE MITIGATION AT THE BUILDING PERMIT STAGE, UPDATING THE TREE SURVEY REQUIREMENTS. SO IT'S EVERY THREE YEARS INSTEAD OF EVERY FIVE YEARS. INCREASE THE REPLACEMENT TREE SIZE TO A MINIMUM THREE CALIPER INCHES AND CLARIFY THE MEASUREMENT OF MULTI-TRUNK TREES. TODAY, IF YOU HAVE A TREE THAT HAS TWO TRUNKS AND THE TRUNK SPLIT BEFORE FOUR FEET, WE CONSIDER IT TWO SEPARATE TREES. IF IT SPLITS AFTER FOUR FEET, IT'S A HERITAGE TREE. OTHER COMMUNITIES WILL DO KIND OF A MATH PROBLEM WHERE YOU CALCULATE THE SIZE OF EACH BRANCH AND DETERMINE IF IT'S HERITAGE. SO THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS OF DOING IT. SO WE COULD LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS. THAT ONE IS KIND OF A DEFINITION WE BACKED INTO WHERE IT'S NOT SUPER CLEAR IN THE CODE, BUT WE EXPLAIN IT TO CUSTOMERS WHEN THEY COME IN. AND WITH THAT, I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION AND GOING BACK AND GIVING US THE HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT WHERE WE ARE. HAVE WE EVER ENGAGED AN OUTSIDE COMPANY TO REVIEW THIS FOR US AND LOOK AT OUR CITY HOLISTICALLY AND SEE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO, AS OPPOSED TO US JUST FIGURING OUT STEP BY STEP WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE HAVEN'T FORMALLY PAID SOMEONE TO DO IT IN THE PAST. WE'VE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND TREE PROFESSIONALS. IN 2014, WE WENT THROUGH THAT EXERCISE, BUT IT WASN'T WHERE WE HIRED A COMPANY TO DO IT. ALL RIGHT. I'D BE INTERESTED IN IF THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL COMPANY THAT DOES THIS TO GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK, OR ARE WE ON THE RIGHT DIRECTION? ARE WE GOING THE RIGHT WAY WITH THIS? AND DOES IT MAKE SENSE FOR WHERE OUR CITY IS RIGHT NOW THAT HAS THAT BACKGROUND? CITY MANAGER PARDON? DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD BEFORE WE GO TO COUNCIL COMMENTS. YES. SO THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT WAS REALLY TO TO KIND OF ORIENT WHAT OUR ORDINANCE IS, HOW IT FUNCTIONS, WHAT IT DOES, AND TO DISCUSS SOME OF THESE NEAR-TERM CHANGES OR ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE WITH OUR UPCOMING CITY COUNCIL RETREAT. WE REALLY WANT TO KIND OF DIVE INTO A MORE HOLISTIC DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT IS THE PROGRAM, WHAT'S THE

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OVERALL OBJECTIVE THAT WE WANT TO DO, AND THEN TO THEN DECIDE IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT TOOL OR WHAT TOOLS WE NEED TO BRING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO THROUGH THAT AND THEN TO DISCUSS AT THAT TIME WHAT THAT PROCESS REALLY IS THAT WE WANT TO GO THROUGH AS WE LOOK AT THAT BROADER TYPE OF PROGRAM LATER ON IN THE COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT, WE DO HAVE AN ITEM ON THAT WILL DISCUSS THE MITIGATION FUND AND SOME ADDITIONAL ABILITIES TO UTILIZE THAT FUND TO DO PROGRAMING AND TO BRING IN CONSULTANT AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL STAFF EXPERTISE SO WE CAN KIND OF MANAGE THE PROGRAM THAT WAY. THANK YOU. START WITH SIX. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? SORRY. NO, I'M GOOD RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING.

TO KIND OF DOVETAIL ON YOUR REQUEST, MAYOR? THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONVERSATIONS RELATED TO THE CLEAN AIR COALITION AND A MORE HOLISTIC VIEW AT THE ISSUE OF CANOPY AND WATER PRESERVATION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY MANAGER.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S NECESSARILY SHARED THOSE WITH YOU, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THERE. AND I THINK IT'S IT'S PRUDENT TO DO A MORE COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT THIS INSTEAD OF SILOING THIS ISSUE IN, INTO AND OF ITSELF. I DO LIKE THE DIRECT. OBVIOUSLY, THE DIRECTION OVER THE YEARS HAS BEEN PRESERVATION INCREASES, RIGHT? SO THE PRESERVATION HAS INCREASED OVER THE YEARS. AND THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE I THAT WAS SOMETHING I WAS NOT AWARE OF. BUT YEAH, I, I LIKE WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS THOUGHT PROCESS, BUT I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT TO YOU AS WELL. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK, PLEASE, FOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ROBIN AND TODD, THE THREE YEARS, CAN YOU KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHY THAT CHANGE CAME ABOUT? YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING WITH THE ARBORIST AND THEY SAID LIKE THE FIVE YEARS WAS TOO LONG. YEAH. THIS IS THE AGE OF THE TREE STUDY, ROBIN. SO CAN YOU KIND OF. IS IT FOR ME? YEAH. OKAY. YES. I TALKED TO A ARBORIST ABOUT THE AGE OF THE TREE STUDY AND WE TALKED ABOUT WOULD IT BE BETTER TO DO ONE YEAR, TWO YEAR THREE? WHAT AMOUNT OF TIME IS THE BEST TO SEE CHANGES IN TREES? AND THREE YEARS WAS THEIR RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THAT WAS AN APPROPRIATE TIME FRAME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I REALLY LOVE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE NEAR-TERM ISSUES WITH THE ORDINANCE LOOPHOLES, IF YOU WILL, THAT ROBIN'S POINTED OUT, AS WELL AS DEVELOPING A LONGER TERM PLAN, IS PART OF THAT LATER ITEM, TOO, IS THAT CANOPY STUDY IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING. SO I'M GLAD EVERYONE'S KIND OF ON BOARD WITH PURSUING THAT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, PLACE THREE I ONLY HAD REALLY ONE QUESTION. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED OR YOU GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF A COMMERCIAL PLOT THAT AT ONE POINT HAD PLANS DEVELOPED AND THE TREE MITIGATION AND TREE REMOVAL DESIGN CREATED, AND THEN THEY CAME BACK AND SUBMITTED ADDITIONAL PLANS. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW TYPICALLY KIND OF WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME GIVEN TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES TO MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WITHIN A YEAR OF OR WITHIN THE PERMITTING PERIOD? OR HOW DOES THAT HOW DOES THAT WORK? I THINK IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAD A DEVELOPER THAT SET UP THE THE BASE DESIGNS THEY PUT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN THEY'VE SOLD PADS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. SO LIKE THIS ONE, THEY SOLD IT TO A CAR WASH, NOT A CAR WASH HAS COME FORWARD AND SHOWN THEIR PLANS. SO THIS IS ONE WHERE IT'S AS A NEW DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, WE HAVE OTHERS WHERE IT'S PHASED, LIKE THE HEB AT KAUFMAN, THAT WAS ONE BIG PIECE. PHASE ONE WAS HEB TWO WAS ALL THE PADS ALONG THE FRONT AND THERE'S. THEY ACTUALLY REMOVED TREES ON THE PAD SITES TO PREPARE FOR THEIR FUTURE USERS. AND LOOKING BACK ON THAT, YOU CAN SEE THAT A LOT OF THOSE TREES PROBABLY COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED WITH THE USERS. THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO THEY WERE. AND SO THEY'RE BEING PROACTIVE.

WE DON'T HAVE A TIME FRAME UNLESS IT'S PART OF A PHASING PLAN. AND EVEN IF IT'S PART OF A PHASING PLAN, THEY'RE ALREADY SHOWING US WHAT THEY'RE TAKING OUT. YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT KIND OF LENDS BACK TO KIND OF WHAT THE MAYOR WAS SAYING, WHERE WE NEED A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT HELPS US TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE RISK THAT WE COULD HAVE AVOIDED. I THINK HAVING, YOU KNOW, JUST THAT THAT VARIANT LENGTH OF TIME, EVEN, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS, IT REALLY COST US WHERE WE COULD HAVE PROBABLY SAVED TREES OR HAD MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE UNDERSTANDING. AND I JUST EVEN ON MY TIME ON COUNCIL, I'VE SEEN THERE HAVE

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BEEN SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL ABOUT TIMING. IF WE, YOU KNOW, HAD A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OR CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE MADE SOME JUSTIFIED DECISIONS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE OF A PROFESSIONAL, COMPREHENSIVE UNDERSTANDING OF LIKE THE IMPACT TO THE ENVIRONMENT. SO THANK YOU.

PLACE THREE. PLACE TWO, PLACE TWO. OKAY. SO. SO, SO ON, ON THIS WORKSHOP. SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS I, I KNOW WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF KIND OF SAYING, HEY, THIS IS WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. AND, AND THE QUESTION, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A RETREAT, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO AND ALL THAT. BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE BUY LAND TO DEVELOP IT FOR A PURPOSE. AND WHEN THEY BUY THE LAND, THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD WHAT THEY WANT. AND THEN THEY COME BEFORE US AND OR THEY FIND OUT THE RULES, OR THEY SHOULD KNOW THE RULES OR WHATEVER, AND THEY GO, OH MY, I CAN'T DO THIS OR THAT. I CAN'T BUILD WHAT I WANTED. I BOUGHT THE LAND, I NOW OWN THE LAND, AND I CAN'T GET THE HIGHEST POTENTIAL OUT OF IT BECAUSE THE CITY'S DEEMED THAT A TREE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THEIR OWNERSHIP AND, AND THINGS. AND SO I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IS, IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE PROCESS, WHEN DOES THAT COME UP? HOW DO WE GET IT SOONER IN THE PROCESS? SO IT MAY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY ALL KNOW THE LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT BUYING THE LAND ARE DEVELOPING STUFF, THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND ALL THAT. BUT MOVING UP WHAT THE PLAN, WHAT IN THE PROCESS IS PROBABLY A BETTER THING THAN THEY GO OUT AND SPEND $1 MILLION ON DESIGN, 500,000 ON DESIGN, AND THEN THEY SPEND ANOTHER $500,000 TRYING TO GET THEIR DESIGN DONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF TREES THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH. THEY HAVE TO BRING EXPERTS AND ALL THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DON'T SEE IN ANY OF THE PLANS OR ANYTHING IS DIFFERENTIATING THE QUALITY OF THE TREE, YOU KNOW? SO I HAVE A HERITAGE TREE AND IT'S DYING.

AND I GOT A BEAUTIFUL TREE OVER HERE THAT IS LIKE MAGNIFICENT AND EVERYTHING. AND, AND IT SHOULD BE SAVED. AND THE OTHER ONE IS, IS NOT IN THE BEST SHAPE TO SAVE BASED ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THAT. AND I KNOW THE EXPERTS COME IN AND DO THAT. BUT WHEN WE DO THE CALCULATIONS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO AND DO THE MITIGATION PART AND ALL THAT THEY USE, YOU KNOW, THOSE TREES GET KIND OF PICKED UP. AND THEN ALL THAT. I THINK THE OTHER THING WOULD BE IS I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR US AS A COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH MITIGATION, WHAT ARE THEY ACTUALLY DOING? HOW DO THEY GO ABOUT IT? I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY GO IN AND THEY SAY, OKAY, I GOT TO SAVE 50% OF THE TREES OR 50% OF THE CALIPER INCHES BETWEEN X AND Y, RIGHT? AND SO THEY SIT DOWN AND THEY FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THEIR BUILDINGS AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SAVE AND KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE USEFUL FOR US IN THE WORKSHOP AND KIND OF UNDERSTANDING HOW INDUSTRY LOOKS AT IT AND WHAT THEY DO.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF THINGS ON OUR DOCKET TONIGHT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TREES. TODAY'S TONIGHT'S TREE NIGHT, RIGHT. AND, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM, SOME OF THOSE TREES WOULD BE GREAT TO SAVE, BUT SOME OF THEM IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO SAVE BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING THERE AND ALL THAT. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT. AND WE, WE TEND TO MINIMIZE OR HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT TREES ARE GOING TO GET PUT IN OR HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET PUT IN. I KNOW THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE'VE APPROVED IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT LIKE TOWNHOMES IN, AND THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A TREE IN FRONT OF A LITTLE TREE IN FRONT OF EVERY PLACE. AND, AND IT SOUNDS GOOD AND EVERYTHING, BUT THOSE LITTLE TREES CAN GROW INTO BIG TREES, BUT THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THAT PLACE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO OUTGROW THE SPACE THEY'RE IN. RIGHT. AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO OVERCOME THE RULES THAT WE PUT IN PLACE, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO PLANT THINGS SO THEY CAN GET THE SUBTRACTION MINUS OVER HERE. SO I THINK IT'D BE REALLY GOOD TO UNDERSTAND THE INTERPLAY OF HOW, HOW THEY KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE PART THAT BECAUSE WHATEVER RULE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE, IT'S GOING TO GET IMPLEMENTED AND WE'RE GOING TO EITHER IF WE'RE STRINGENT, WE'RE GOING TO. WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE WHAT THE WHAT'S ON THAT AREA. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE A NOT THE BEST PARTNER WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.

BUT I KNOW OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THE SAME THINGS. SO SO THAT BALANCE WOULD BE GOOD. BUT I THINK FOR US AS A COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE MINDSET OF THE PEOPLE, THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE COMING IN FRONT OF US AND WHAT THEIR GOALS ARE AND ALL THAT. I JUST THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US. SO THAT'S, I THINK THIS IS GREAT. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THE RETREAT AND EVERYTHING. AND I THINK ALSO IT'D BE GOOD TO SEE WHAT THE WHAT THE CANOPIES ARE COMPARED TO CITIES AND THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND SOME OF THE METRICS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE GET COMPARED TO OTHER PLACES, BUT THEIR ORDINANCES ARE A LOT MORE OPEN AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT MECHANISMS TO LET THEM CLEAR CUT TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THANK YOU. I CAN SAY REAL QUICK, I DIDN'T MENTION IN THE SUMMARY, BUT WE DO HAVE PROVISIONS. IF YOUR TREE IS DEAD OR DYING, WE DON'T MAKE YOU SAVE THEM. IF THEY SUBMIT AN ARBORIST REPORT THAT

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STATES THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO MITIGATE FOR THAT EITHER. THANK YOU. PLEASE WANT I'LL JUST ECHO MY MY COLLEAGUES COMMENTS AND SAY THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS PRESENTATION AND CLARIFYING A LOT OF THE HISTORY OF THE TREE ORDINANCE HERE IN, IN LEANDER. AND JUST TO ECHO, COUNCILMAN HERRERA, I AGREE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A BALANCE IN TERMS OF THIS. I THINK THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, RIGHTFULLY CONCERNED FOLKS COME OUT AND SPEAK ABOUT THE NEED TO PRESERVE THE TREES IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A THERE'S A BALANCE THAT WE'RE NOT BEING ONEROUS TO BUSINESS OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS WHO ARE JUST SIMPLY TRYING TO, TO DO THEIR JOBS TO PURCHASE PROPERTY WITH EXPECTATION OF DEVELOPING IT IN A WAY THAT IS BOTH RESPONSIBLE, BUT ALSO ALLOWS THEM TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. AND ONE THING THAT I THINK IS KIND OF MISSING HERE IS WE'VE HAD SOME VERY PASSIONATE FOLKS ON ONE SIDE, AND WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND REALLY HAD A GATHERING, I THINK, OF THE MINES TO KIND OF GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT CAN OR CAN'T BE DONE. I DO LOOK FORWARD TO US HAVING OUR CITY WORKSHOP IN A FEW WEEKS, AND LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHERING THAT DISCUSSION. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY MANAGER. I KNOW THAT DURING OUR PRESENTATION A FEW WEEKS BACK, WE HAD A LOT OF COMPARISONS TO OTHER CITIES, AND I THINK ONE OF THE CITIES THAT WE FREQUENTLY ARE COMPARED TO IS CEDAR PARK. COULD YOU KIND OF GIVE US AN OVERLAY OF HOW OUR PROCESSES ARE COMPARED TO CEDAR PARK AND THEIR APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THE REMOVAL OF HERITAGE TREES VERSUS OURS? SO YEAH, THERE'S SOME, SOME, I THINK TO ME, SOME SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES IN THEIR CODE STRUCTURE AND PROCESS VERSUS WHAT WE HAVE. SO THEIR, THEIR STANDARD HAS A PROVISION THAT THEY BEGIN A TREE OR TREE EVALUATION AT EIGHT INCHES AND LARGER. AND THERE'S NOT REALLY A DISTINGUISHING DEFINITION BETWEEN A SIGNIFICANT AND HERITAGE TREE. AND SO UP TO 50% OF THOSE TREES CAN BE REMOVED. AND THEN AFTER THAT, THERE'S SOME MITIGATION THAT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT AFTERWARD, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. AND THOSE ARE REALLY ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS, THERE'S NOT A P AND Z OR A COUNCIL APPROVAL OVERVIEW PROCESS IN THAT PERMITTING EFFORT. THEY DO HAVE A PROVISION THAT PROVIDES THE BROAD EXEMPTION TO THEIR FEES AND TO THE THE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSES OR SPECIAL PURPOSES, DEVELOPMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO THEY'VE HAD SOME RECENT LARGE PROJECTS WHERE THEY'VE CLEAR CUT PROPERTIES TO, TO DEVELOP. YOU MEAN SHIELDS IN THAT AREA AROUND THEIR CORRECT H-E-B CENTER? CORRECT. YEAH. THOSE AREAS WOULD FOR SHIELDS, WE KNOW LIKE SHIELDS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN NEBRASKA, FURNITURE MART HAS FALLEN INTO THEIR CURRENT CODE STANDARDS. SO. SO ANYWAY, SO THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENTIAL IN WHAT THEY LOOK AT HOW WE DO VERSUS OURS, WHICH WE DESCRIBED. WE LOOK AT THE 8 TO 18IN. WE HAVE A 50% MITIGATION COMPONENT THAT KICKS IN AFTER THAT. BUT ANYTHING ABOVE THAT 18IN BELOW 16 OR 26 IS STILL HERE, OR SIGNIFICANT TREE, WHICH DOES FALL INTO THE MITIGATION COMPONENT. AND THEN THE HERITAGE TREES FALL INTO THAT, WHICH THEN FALLS INTO THE P AND Z AND THE CITY COUNCIL PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS. SO, SO THERE'S SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES IN HOW THEY WORK THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES, HOW THEY WORK AROUND LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND AGAIN, THE APPROVAL ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES ARE DIFFERENT AS WELL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE OPTIONS? ARE THESE THINGS YOU NEED TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM US ON EACH ONE? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO OUR RETREAT TO HAVE A MORE ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT, OR WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR US TO DO WITH THESE OPTIONS TODAY? I THINK REALLY, IT'S REALLY KIND OF TALK ABOUT THESE OPTIONS AND WHICH OF THESE SOUND LIKE YOU WOULD LIKE US TO PURSUE. I THINK IN OUR PROCESS, WE WOULD LOOK AT ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD NEEDED, WOULD BE NEEDED TO IMPLEMENT THESE. OKAY. BUT ALSO WOULD BE AN EVALUATION. HERE'S, HERE'S THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AND KIND OF HERE'S THE IMPLICATIONS AS BEST WE CAN DEFINE. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, WE'LL DO SOME CASE STUDY COMPONENTS TO THAT. I REALLY THINK FROM EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD, AT LEAST THAT WE'RE IN AGREEMENT THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. SO WHAT, I GUESS Y'ALL WOULD PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE APPROPRIATE TREE VALUE SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD, ESPECIALLY IF IT HASN'T BEEN CHANGED FROM 150 SINCE 2005. THAT'S A LONG TIME. ONE OF THE THINGS, I GUESS, A COUPLE THINGS. ONE IS THERE IS AN AG OPINION, AND IT WAS ISSUED IN 2015, AND IT WAS A QUESTION TO THE AG ABOUT TREE

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PRESERVATION AND THE WHETHER THAT WAS A TAKINGS OR NOT. AND SO. AG PAXTON DID STATE THAT IT WOULD BE A TAKING. IF YOU CREATE A STANDARD THAT DEPRIVES LANDOWNER OF THE USE AND ENJOYMENT AND INVESTMENT BACKED EXPECTATIONS FOR THEIR PROPERTIES. SO WE'D HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AS WE KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. ON THE EVALUATION PIECE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KIND OF TALKED TO ROBIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IS MAYBE INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT FIXED PRICES, WE COME UP WITH A FORMULAIC WAY THAT LOOKS AT CURRENT PRICING OF, OF TREES AND TREE SIZES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT KIND OF KEEPS IT MORE CURRENT. THERE ARE SOME, SOME PROCESSES AND STANDARDS OUT THERE TO ESTABLISH VALUES OF TREES THAT ARE ON PROPERTIES.

SO THERE'S SOME, SOME TOOLS WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AT AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ARE APPROPRIATE AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. BUT THAT WOULD KIND OF CREATE A, A COST CALCULATION THAT WOULD KIND OF BE MORE KEPT UP WITH CURRENT MARKET AND PRICING CONDITIONS.

SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS WE'D LIKE TO BRING BACK AND TALK TO YOU THAT. CAN I CLARIFY THAT OPTION? THAT'S THAT'S IF THEY DON'T WANT TO PLANT TREES. SO THAT'S JUST THE VALUE OF PUTTING IN A TREE. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT JUST TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. GOTCHA. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT THE ON THE CALIPER MEASUREMENT GOING TO 4.5FT OVER FOUR FEET, I THINK THAT'S REALLY A NATIONAL STANDARD THAT FITS WITH URBAN FORESTRY. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BRING US UP TO REALLY WHAT THE NATIONAL STANDARD IS. THEIR IMPLICATION THERE IS WE'RE GOING TO BE TREES WILL BE A LITTLE BIT YOUNGER. SO DOING A LOWER LEVEL AT FOUR FEET MEANS THE TREES ARE A LITTLE BIT OLDER, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT. SO. ARE YOU SAYING THEY MIGHT MEASURE SMALLER BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING UP HIGHER. YEAH. YEAH. SO THEY'RE GROWING LONGER TALLER AND WIDER. YEAH. YEAH. SO BASED ON EVERYTHING YOU SAID, I THAT'S WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF US HAVING A MORE COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING. NOT AND HOW IT IMPACTS EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OUR PLANS FOR THE CITY AND, AND DEVELOPMENT GOING FORWARD. AND SO, YES, I KNOW WE MIGHT DO SOME OF THESE THINGS PRETTY QUICKLY TO COME UP TO A NATIONAL STANDARD, BUT LEANDER IS UNIQUE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING THE MARK SOMEWHERE AS WE LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR CITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING HERE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE THAT'S HERE WITH THE MESSAGE THAT WE SEND TO DEVELOPERS AND LANDOWNERS. WELL, AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM LOT BY LOT. SO IF WE HAVE A PICTURE AND A VISION AND WE KNOW WHAT'S THERE AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE, THEN WE CAN CREATE STRATEGIES TO DO THAT AND WE CAN FIND THAT RIGHT BALANCE. I BELIEVE I AGREE THE PROCESS. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? YES, PLEASE. FIVE I DO WANT TO ADD ONE THING BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME CONSIDERATIONS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO WAIT TILL THEN. BUT ONE THING THAT IN DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME DEVELOPERS THAT I'VE, AS I'VE BECOME MORE AWARE OF THE ISSUES AROUND THE MITIGATION AND PRESERVATION, ONE PIECE OF DATA THAT I THINK WE'RE MISSING IN, IN THE REVIEWS AS WELL AS IN GENERAL, IS THE COST, NOT NECESSARILY THE COST OF THE MITIGATION OR THE TREE OR THE REPLACEMENT, BUT THE COST THAT THE DEVELOPER ACTUALLY INCURS TO DO THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING. RIGHT. SO THERE'S A COST TO CUTTING, CUTTING DOWN A TREE. THERE'S, THERE'S LABOR INVOLVED WITH THAT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. EVEN IF WE COULD JUST GET A MEAN TO INCLUDE THAT IN OUR THOUGHT PROCESS, BECAUSE I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER. AND MOVING A TREE, NOT JUST CUTTING DOWN, MOVING THEM, BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED TO DEVELOPERS AND THEY TALK ABOUT MOVING THE TREES, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT. I WOULD ALSO ADD, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD DEVELOPERS COME BEFORE US AND TALK ABOUT HOW IN ORDER TO SAVE CERTAIN TREES, THEY'D HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE PATH OF CERTAIN INFRASTRUCTURE OR THE BUILDING SHAPE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE, I GUESS, IF WE HAVE ANY RESOURCES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LOSS IN SQUARE FOOTAGE AND USABLE FOOTAGE WOULD COST THEM IN TERMS OF PROFITABILITY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? YOU. OKAY. HE ADDED THAT ON THE END. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? CITY MANAGER. PARDON? NO, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S ALL WE HAD FOR OUR BRIEFING WORKSHOP

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TODAY. AND THE TIME IS 630. PLEASE BE BACK IN AT 655, TODAYS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 1ST, 2026,

[4. Open Meeting, Invocation and Pledges of Allegiance.]

AND THE TIME IS NOW 7 P.M. AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LEANDER CITY COUNCIL.

COUNCILMAN MICHAEL HERRERA WILL PROVIDE OUR INVOCATION TONIGHT, SO PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOLLOWING THE INVOCATION FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. YES I DO. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ARE SO THANKFUL FOR YOUR CREATION. WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR THIS WORLD, LORD. WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THE RAIN AND WE JUST PRAY IT SPRINKLES INSTEAD OF POURS. LORD, WE ASK TONIGHT THAT YOUR HAND WOULD BE UPON US DURING THIS MEETING AND THAT WE WOULD HAVE WISE JUDGMENT AS A COUNCIL, AND THAT WE WOULD HAVE PATIENCE FROM THE CITIZENS. LORD, WE PRAY THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO UPHOLD THIS COUNTRY, A COUNTRY THAT BELIEVES IN FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, AND ALL THE OTHER FREEDOMS THAT WE HAVE. LORD, WE KNOW YOU SENT YOUR SON TO DIE ON A CROSS FOR US AND WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THAT. WE WE LIFT UP THIS MEETING IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE JUST WANT TO SEND A SPECIAL WELCOME AND THANK EVERYONE FOR

[6. Welcome Special Guests and Visitors.]

ATTENDING OUR MEETING TONIGHT. WE WANT TO ESPECIALLY SAY, THANKFUL TO ALL OUR ACTIVE AND RETIRED MILITARY, ALL OF OUR EDUCATORS, ALL OF OUR CURRENT AND FORMER ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT AND ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PROFESSIONALS. WE APPRECIATE THE SACRIFICES YOU MAKE, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND ITEM SEVEN IS OUR NON-AGENDA PUBLIC? OH, YES. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE MOVE TO OUR NON-AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AND I ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT, AND I'LL CALL YOU UP IN JUST A MOMENT. WE'LL ACTUALLY CITY SECRETARY CRABTREE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER STEVEN CHANG, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER MICHAEL HERRERA HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER TONY BLAIR, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER ANNETTE SPONSELLER, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW NADINE HERE.

MAYOR PRO TEM BECKY ROSS, MAYOR NICOLE THOMPSON PRESENT QUORUM IS PRESENT AND THE CITY COUNCIL

[7. Public comments on items not listed in the agenda.

Public comments on items listed in the agenda will be heard at the time each item is discussed.

[All comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes (6 minutes if translation is needed) per individual.]]

IS ELIGIBLE TO DO BUSINESS. ITEM SEVEN IS OUR NON-AGENDA. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. I'LL CALL ON SPOKESPERSON PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE AGENDA ITEM AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR COMMENTS VIA THE WEBSITE WILL ONLY HAVE THEIR POSITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD, AND ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SHARED WITH COUNCIL AND WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD. FIRST, I HAVE SAMMY PANZARINO. IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, SAY YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS. GOOD EVENING, SAMMY PANZARINO 600 WITH GLOW DRIVE. GOOD EVENING LEANDER. I'M BACK AGAIN TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT LEANDER ART FEST IS COMING UP.

WE DID POSTPONE THE EVENT DUE TO WEATHER, SO EVERYBODY STAY SAFE THIS WEEK. BY THE WAY, SHOUT OUT TO PART PARKS AND REC, GREG, THAT ALL OF THOSE GUYS, THAT WHOLE TEAM AND THE CITY FOR YOUR SUPPORT WITH THIS EVENT, IT IS A GREAT EVENT. THE NEW DATE IS OCTOBER 10TH IN LAKEWOOD PARK, 2 P.M. TO 6 P.M. IT'S A BIG, FUN EVENT FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY. IT'S A CELEBRATION OF ART IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A LOT OF LOCAL ARTISTS THAT WILL BE THERE. YOU'LL GET TO SEE A LIVE PAINTING DONE BY LOCAL ARTIST LIBBY BRATT, AND WE WILL BE RAFFLING OFF THAT PAINTING, SO SOMEONE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE IT HOME WITH THEM. WE ALSO HAVE LIVE MUSIC BY AUSTIN HAYES, FASHION SHOW AND DANCE PERFORMANCE BY YAMI CONNECTS AND DAZZLING ANGELS DANCE ACADEMY FOOD. OF COURSE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A PETTING ZOO THERE THIS YEAR AND OTHER HANDS ON EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES FOR THE YOUNG ONES, FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY. SO PLEASE COME OUT. THE THEME THIS YEAR IS DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE, SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN SEE SOME CHESHIRE CATS AND AND RABBITS AND MAYBE A QUEEN OF HEARTS. SO YEAH, WE'LL HAVE FREE PARKING AND SHUTTLES. IT'LL BE FROM ROUSE HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE NORTH LOT OFF OF RAIDER WAY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO GET INVOLVED. WE COULD STILL USE

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SOME VOLUNTEERS, SO PLEASE CONTACT PARKS AND REC FOR THAT, ESPECIALLY IF ANY LOCAL STUDENTS OR ANYBODY NEEDS VOLUNTEER HOURS, REACH OUT. YOU CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION ON THE CITY PAGE. IF YOU GOOGLE LEANDER ART FEST, IT'S THE FIRST PAGE THAT COMES UP THERE, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYBODY AT LEANDER ART FEST OCTOBER 10TH IN LAKEWOOD PARK. THANK YOU. CAN YOU REMIND US OF THE TIME AGAIN? 2 P.M. TO 6 P.M. AND THE SHUTTLES WILL RUN THAT ENTIRE TIME. IT WILL. OKAY, EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. AND OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SCOTT CULLUM. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. SCOTT CULLUM 2309 GRAND LAKE PARKWAY. TWO WEEKS AGO, YOU ALL MADE WHAT IS, IN MY OPINION, A BAD DECISION.

ITEM NUMBER 23 ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO LEANDER'S ORDINANCE THAT PREVENTS ALCOHOL ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN 300FT OF A CHURCH, SCHOOL, OR HOSPITAL. YOU GRANTED THE VARIANCE, WHICH WAS GOOD, BUT THE CONDITIONS PLACED ON IT WERE NOT GOOD. NUMBER ONE, THE VARIANCE COULDN'T BE TRANSFERRED. NUMBER TWO, THEY CAN'T HAVE SIGNAGE SAYING THAT YOU CAN GET A GLASS OF WINE WITH YOUR PLATE OF SPAGHETTI, SO THEY CAN'T AS EASILY SELL THE BUSINESS AS IT EXISTS, WHICH IS A GOAL FOR MOST OF US. AND THEY'RE NOT ON EQUAL FOOTING WITH THE OTHER ALCOHOL ESTABLISHMENTS. IN THE PLAZA, YOU MADE A FINDING OF HARDSHIP AS DIRECTED BY STATE LAW, AND THEN YOU SLAPPED HARDSHIPS RIGHT BACK ON THE RELIEF. THE STATUTE SAID YOU COULD GRANT. THERE'S A COMMERCIAL FREE SPEECH ISSUE HERE. FIVE ESTABLISHMENTS NEARBY, AND ALL OF THEM CAN PUT UP ANYTHING PERMISSIBLE UNDER TABC REGS AND AN OPPRESSIVE SIGN ORDINANCE. BUT ONE BUSINESS CAN'T DO THAT. THAT IS NOT FAIR. THE CHURCH MAY HAVE REQUESTED THE CONDITIONS, BUT COUNCIL CANNOT OUTSOURCE ITS THOUGHTFUL, POLICY MAKING OBLIGATIONS TO A CHURCH. THERE'S NO RATIONAL BASIS FOR THE CONDITIONS IN THIS CASE. AND STATE LAW IS CLEAR THAT YOU COULD HAVE SAID NO TO THEM IN JUNE. YOU GRANTED A VARIANCE ON CRYSTAL FALLS IN A NEARLY IDENTICAL SITUATION. I THINK WITHOUT THOSE CONDITIONS, THE FACT THAT THE CHURCH HERE ASKED FOR THE CONDITIONS, BUT THE SCHOOL THERE DID NOT IS AN EMBARRASSINGLY WEAK GOVERNMENTAL JUSTIFICATION. IT'S AN INCONSISTENT APPLICATION OF YOUR VARIANCE AUTHORITY THAT SHOULD RAISE EQUAL PROTECTION CONCERNS. I HAVE TWO REQUESTS. FIRST, PLEASE QUESTION STAFF MORE OFTEN. MY JAW DROPPED WHEN THE CITY ATTORNEY RECOMMENDED THE CONDITIONS AND NOBODY QUESTIONED THEM. IT WAS A TERRIBLE RECOMMENDATION. COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR, YOU DID GIVE THE APPLICANT AN OPENING TO OBJECT AND YOU SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED FOR THAT. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. BUT WHAT YOU ALL HAVE TO REMEMBER IS THAT AN APPLICANT IN THEIR SITUATION HAS THE MINDSET OF A HOSTAGE.

THEIR DEFAULT SETTING IS THAT THEY CAN'T DO SOMETHING, AND THEY NEED ALL OF YOU TO SAY YES TO IT, SO THEY WILL HOLD THEIR HAT IN THEIR HANDS. THEY WILL HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND THEY WILL THANK YOU FOR ANY CONDITION YOU WANT TO PUT ON THAT, THAT APPROVAL, BECAUSE IT'S BETTER THAN THE STATUS QUO. YOU WILL THINK YOU DID SOMETHING GOOD THAT NIGHT. THE APPLICANT WILL GO HOME AND NOT SLEEP AT ALL, AND THEY WILL NEVER TELL YOU ABOUT THIS. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE ANNOYANCES LIKE ME. SECOND, ONE OR MORE OF YOU, PLEASE TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO FIX THIS BY BRINGING IT BACK AND DROPPING THE CONDITIONS. YOU COULD DO IT NEXT MEETING AND IT WOULD TAKE MAYBE THREE MINUTES, INCLUDING PREP WORK. IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I ALSO WANT TO SAY I'M HERE ON MY OWN. THE APPLICANT DOES NOT KNOW I'M HERE. THEY'D PROBABLY BE ANGRY IF THEY DID KNOW, BUT I THINK WE ALL KNOW ME BY NOW, RIGHT? IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DISCUSS THIS WITH ME, TO QUOTE COACH BRIAN, I'M NOT HARD TO FIND. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO REITERATE THIS COUNCIL IS, I THINK, THE BEST WE'VE HAD IN MY 14 YEARS, ALL THE EDUCATION, ALL THE THOUGHTFULNESS UP THERE, YOU'VE GOT TO LIVE UP TO THE EXPECTATIONS THAT YOU SET FOR YOURSELVES. QUESTION STAFF MORE

[8. Recognitions/Proclamations/Visitors.

  • Blue Santa Certificate of Recognition
]

OFTEN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM EIGHT. RECOGNITION AND PROCLAMATIONS.

WE HAVE BLUE SANTA CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION. AND I'M ASSUMING WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY MARCIA. OH BY JOHN. COME ON UP, SIR. OKAY. WELCOME UP, MADAM MAYOR. YES, SIR. ESTEEMED MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I AM JOHN COSGROVE. I. I HAVE THE DISTINCT PLEASURE OF SERVING AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FOR LEANDRA BLUE SANTA. IT IS THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN. I WISH WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING, I DIDN'T HAVE TO STAND HERE IN FRONT OF YOU BECAUSE IT WOULD MEAN THERE'S NO NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY. HOWEVER, EVERY YEAR WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED, THE NEED GROWS. WE STARTED WITH WITH CHIEF MINTON LONG BEFORE HE WAS CHIEF MINTON. AND ONE FAMILY.

LAST YEAR, WE SERVED OVER A THOUSAND CHILDREN RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF LEANDER. OVER 600 FAMILIES. MANY OF YOU COME OUT AND YOU SEE FIRSTHAND EXACTLY THE IMPACT THAT THIS HAS ON OUR

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OWN COMMUNITY. WE DON'T WE DON'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE. WE STAY RIGHT HERE. AND WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE. WE NEED THIS COMMUNITY TO BE INVOLVED. AND THE CITY OF LEANDER HAS BEEN AMAZING. YOU USUALLY GIVE CERTIFICATES AND PROCLAMATIONS FOR THINGS. TODAY WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU ONE FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR LEANDER BLUE SANTA. I CANNOT. MOST OF YOU KNOW ME.

I'M NOT REALLY MR. EMOTIONAL. I GET EMOTIONAL WHEN I TALK ABOUT THIS. BECAUSE IT MATTERS.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU SEE THE LOOK ON A PARENT'S FACE, WHEN THEY REALIZE THEY CAN GIVE THEIR KID CHRISTMAS. AND YOU KNOW, IF ANY OF YOU EVER BEEN IN EDUCATION THE DAY YOU COME BACK FROM CHRISTMAS BREAK AND ALL THE KIDS ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY GOT, AND THERE WAS ALWAYS THE KID IN THE CORNER TRYING TO GET REALLY SMALL BECAUSE THEY GOT NOTHING. BECAUSE THE LEANDER POLICE DEPARTMENT. BELIEVES. THAT'S WRONG. BECAUSE THIS COMMUNITY BELIEVES. THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THEM. LAST YEAR, THERE WERE 1100 KIDS WHO DIDN'T HAVE TO GET VERY SMALL WHEN THEY WENT BACK TO SCHOOL. AND TO ME, THAT'S AMAZING. AND THAT'S THAT'S THIS COMMUNITY, THAT'S THIS COMMUNITY. SO. IT'S TIME AGAIN, I AM I AM WILLING TO COME HAT IN HAND TO THIS COMMUNITY AND SAY, WE HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN. AND BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING BIGGER, IT MEANS WE NEED MORE HELP. SO ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 8TH, WE ARE HAVING A VOLUNTEER CALL AT I THINK IT'S AT THE SENIOR CENTER BECAUSE I THANK YOU, COUNSELOR SPONSOR, BECAUSE I REALLY, I, I DON'T, I, I, I'M, I'M JUST THE EYE CANDY IN THIS WHOLE THING I HAVE, I MEAN, I'VE GOT A BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE DO IT ALL. I'M JUST AMAZED. BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VOLUNTEER CALL ON THE EIGHTH.

AND THEN ON OCTOBER 10TH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, APPLICATIONS OPEN AND. BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, BARRELS WILL BE OUT. WE'RE HAPPY TO WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE TOYS. WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE CASH.

WE'RE HAPPY FOR $10,000. WE'RE HAPPY FOR A QUARTER. WE DON'T CARE. WE PUT THEM ALL TO USE.

AND EVERY PENNY WE GET, EVERY TOY WE COLLECT IS DIRECTLY SPENT AND DISTRIBUTED TO OUR RECIPIENTS. WE DON'T. WE DON'T HAVE WE. WE DON'T PAY STAFF. EVERYBODY VOLUNTEERS. THE CITY IS AMAZING. THE COMMUNITY IS AMAZING. OUR OUR, OUR LOCAL CHURCHES ARE AMAZING. PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH SOCIETY TODAY. I WISH THEY COULD COME AND WATCH THE CITY OF LEANDER ON DISTRIBUTION DAY. I WATCH PEOPLE WHO ARGUE LEFT AND RIGHT BEHIND A MONITOR AND A KEYBOARD 364 DAYS A YEAR, HELPING EACH OTHER CARRY TOYS AND PACKAGES TO A CAR. AND I ALWAYS SAY, I WISH WE WERE MORE LIKE THE PEOPLE WE WERE ON THAT DAY, THE NEXT DAY. BUT AT LEAST ON THAT DAY, FRIENDS, AT LEAST ON THAT DAY, WE ARE THE VERY BEST OF WHAT LEANDER CAN BE. SO FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF OF, OF CHIEF, BECAUSE THIS IS THEIR THING, THIS WE'RE JUST THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTING IT ON BEHALF OF LPD, ON THE BEHALF OF LEANDER SANTA AND ON BEHALF OF ME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. I HAVE A SO I HAVE I HAVE

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SOME CERTIFICATES HERE. I OF APPRECIATION. IT'S NOT MUCH, JUST A LITTLE PIECE OF PAPER, BUT I SIGNED IT SO IT MAY BE WORTH A NICKEL. HEY, JOHN, WHAT ABOUT THE BIKES? COULD IT DO A LITTLE ABOUT THE BIKES? I CAN I, I'M I'M, I AM ABSOLUTELY THRILLED TO DO THAT. AND I HOPE I DON'T JUMP ON, ON, ON MY, MY, MY DEAR FRIEND MELISSA'S THUNDER BECAUSE SHE DOES AN AMAZING JOB. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE WE STARTED A COUPLE YEARS AGO IS WE STARTED THE LEANDER BIKE CHALLENGE BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED WHERE A LOT OF KIDS, A LOT OF PARENTS WERE ASKING FOR BICYCLES. WELL. IT'S A LOT OF BIKES TO PUT IN A CAR. SO WE.

SO WE STARTED CHALLENGING THE COMMUNITY AND. I THINK LAST YEAR WE GAVE AWAY 600 BIKES AND THAT YOU WERE YOU WERE YOU CAME AND YOU GUYS DELIVERED A BUNCH OF BIKES. YOU GOT TO SEE. WE WE HAVE A COMPLETE SEPARATE WORKSHOP THAT'S NOTHING BUT BIKES. AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT BECAUSE I GOT TO TAG THEM ALL AND IT TAKES ME ABOUT FOUR DAYS AND. LIEUTENANT GERTLER IS HE'S MY HE'S MY BIKE MECHANIC. HE, HE HAS A LITTLE, HE HAS THIS LITTLE SETUP ON THE BACK OF HIS TRUCK AND HE'S ASSEMBLING BIKES AND PEOPLE. IT'S, IT'S REALLY AMAZING. SO WE'LL BE GETTING MORE INFORMATION OUT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHEN WE'RE GOING TO START TAKING BIKES.

AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE NEED. WE TEND TO NEED OLDER KIDS BIKES. EVERYBODY LIKES TO BUY FOR THE LITTLES. OKAY. CAN YOU REMIND US WHAT IS THE BEST WAY FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO VOLUNTEER, WANT TO GET INVOLVED, WANT TO DONATE? WHAT'S THE BEST WAY FOR THEM TO CONTACT? ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. YOU CAN SEND AN EMAIL TO LEANDER BLUE SANTA@GMAIL.ORG. OKAY. ALSO, THERE IS A ON ON THE EIGHTH, THE BIG DEAL. YOU'LL GET TO COME AND LEARN ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES YOU HAVE TO, TO VOLUNTEER. AND DO PEOPLE HAVE TO PRE-REGISTER TO NOT JUST SHOW UP, YOU SHOW UP. MCDONALD'S IS PROVIDING COOKIES, I THINK, AND ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE. SO THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. OH YEAH. IT'S ON THE CITY WEBSITE. YEAH.

SO SO IT'S JUST A IT'S JUST AMAZING. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I, I'D LIKE TO GIVE, FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE LEANDER PARKS AND REC TODAY. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE I GOT ONE GIVE HIM A APPLAUSE. THEY DO A TON OF WORK FOR US SPECIFICALLY. ALSO, I'D LIKE TO I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE LEANDER SUPER EMPLOYEE MIKE RILEY. HE. HE BAILED US OUT A LOT. THIS ONE FEELS WEIRD BECAUSE IT'S ON LEANDER PD LEANDER PD CERTIFICATE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THIS ONE TO LEANDER FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE FOR US. AND I GUESS IT'S OKAY BECAUSE THE CHIEF SIGNED IT. YES. AND. AND FINALLY, WE'D LIKE TO GIVE ONE TO THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY. AND SINCE WE CAN'T GIVE ONE TO EVERYBODY, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE ONE TO THE CITY. THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE THE WORK Y'ALL DO IN OUR COMMUNITY AND GLAD THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE A PARTNER WITH IT. MAYOR, I GET A PICTURE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN. YEAH, THEY WOULD LIKE A PICTURE. YEP. ALL ALL THE VOLUNTEERS. EVERYBODY. YEAH. YOU NEED TO GET A PICTURE. YEAH.

I'M READY. MY. COOL. AND STEVE REMEMBER WE SPENT LIKE EIGHT HOURS. WE DID. THAT WAS A GREAT TIME. WE GOTTA DO THAT AGAIN. OKAY. I GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU. I'LL SEND IT TO YOU TOMORROW.

IT'S A LITTLE BLAST FROM THE PAST WITH YOU. WHEN YOU STARTED BLUE SANTA. YEAH. GREAT. THANK YOU.

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FOR THE. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER

[ CONSENT AGENDA: ACTION]

CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS NINE THROUGH 17. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. THANK

[18. Conduct a Public Hearing adopting an ordinance amending the fee schedule and including a waiver providing for demolition and reconstruction fees on residential pool permits as a result of Alkali Silica Reaction, or ASR, commonly known as concrete cancer; amending all parts of ordinances in conflict; providing a severability clause; providing a savings clause; providing severability and open meetings clauses; and providing for related matters.

  • Discuss and consider action on fee schedule as described above.
]

YOU. AND NOW WE'LL MOVE TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING. ITEM 18 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE, AMENDING THE FEE SCHEDULE AND INCLUDING A WAIVER PROVIDING FOR DEMOLITION AND RECONSTRUCTION FEES ON RESIDENTIAL POOL PERMITS AS A RESULT OF ALKALI REACTION, OR ASR, COMMONLY KNOWN AS CONCRETE CANCER, AMENDING ALL PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY. I'M SORRY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR SAVINGS CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND OPEN MEETINGS CLAUSES AND PROVIDING FOR RELATED MATTERS. ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER KENT, HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD. HI, MAYOR. HEY, COUNCIL. I FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE. IT HAS? YEAH. SO FOR MY LEGISLATIVE UPDATE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT HERE. SO BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT TREES WE'LL TALK ABOUT FEES. SO AS PART OF THE BUDGET I HAD TO PUT ONE OUT. YES. I HAD TO PUT ONE OUT THERE. CAN'T CAN'T. YOU'RE GROWING ON ME. OKAY. SO AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS WE STARTED THIS LAST YEAR IS EVALUATING OUR FEE SCHEDULE EACH YEAR. WE DO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF FEES. AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE FEES, WE WORK WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO IDENTIFY WHICH ONES ARE POTENTIALLY NEED TO BE UPDATED, WHICH ONES RIGHT NOW ARE KIND OF GAINING TRACTION KIND OF IN THE REGION IN TERMS OF WHAT FEES MIGHT BE FALLING OFF OR WHAT FEES MIGHT BE INCREASING. SO WORKING ALL DEPARTMENTS ON THAT. SO PARTICULARLY FOR THIS FEE SCHEDULE, IT'S JUST THE GENERAL FEE SCHEDULE WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD TO COUNCIL, THE PARKS AND RECREATION USER FEES AT A LATER DATE FOR THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER ANIMAL ON ITS OWN. BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR FEE SCHEDULE, THE PRIMARY FEE CHANGES INCLUDE AMENDING THE NOTARY SERVICE FEE. WE DON'T PROVIDE THAT ANYMORE TO THE PUBLIC. AND THEN ALSO QUITE A BIT OF DIFFERENT SECTIONS IN THE BUILDING, SUBDIVISION AND ZONING RELATED FEES RELATED TO LAND USE, SUBDIVISIONS, BUILDING PERMITS, FIRE CODE PERMITS, INSPECTIONS AND SITE DEVELOPMENTS. AND AS PART OF THAT COMES THE ALKALI SILICA REACTION SOUNDS SOUNDS ALMOST JUST LIKE MY LAST NAME. BUT HE'S ON A ROLL TONIGHT.

YEAH. TODD, WHAT DID YOU DO? YEAH. I'M EXCITED TO BE BACK HERE. YEAH. PRACTICING JOKES AND EVERYTHING TOGETHER. I LOVE IT. SO PROUD RIGHT NOW. I'M SO PROUD. BUT YEAH, AND I THINK I BELIEVE IT WAS AROUND THE TIME OF COVID WHERE A LOT OF BUILDERS WERE CONSTRUCTING POOLS. THERE WERE MATERIALS THAT WERE BEING MIXED. AND WITH THAT CAUSED A LOT OF POOLS TO BECOME UNUSABLE. AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, ONE OF THE SENATORS ACTUALLY TRIED TO PROPOSE A BILL TO TRY TO GET SOME SORT OF FEE WAIVERS OR CRITERIA WHERE POOL BUILDERS ACTUALLY HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO RESIDENT HOMEOWNERS OR OTHER BUILDERS IN ADVANCE. LIKE THESE CONTAIN X AMOUNT OF MATERIALS, WHICH COULD CAUSE YOUR POOL TO BECOME UNUSABLE. SO THAT DIDN'T GAIN TRACTION AT THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION. THAT MIGHT HAPPEN AGAIN BECAUSE IT WAS HAPPENING HERE IN AUSTIN AREA.

AND I KNOW SOME OTHER CITIES AROUND US HAVE THE SAME ISSUE. SO WE ARE PROPOSING A FEE WAIVER PROCESS AS PART OF THAT, WHERE AN APPLICANT CAN SUBMIT A FEE WAIVER FOR ASR OR CONCRETE CANCER FOR REVIEW. AND AS PART OF THAT, ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE TO GRANT A FEE WAIVER UP TO THEIR TOTAL AMOUNT OF REQUESTS. NOW, SINCE BETWEEN 2023 AND 2026, THE CITY DID HAD HAVE A TOTAL OF 46 DEMOLITION PERMITS. AND OUT OF THOSE, 28 INDICATED THEY DID HAVE ASR. SO THAT'S THE CONTEXT BEHIND THAT PROPOSED FEE AMENDMENT. NEXT ON THE FEE SCHEDULE IS RELATED TO FIRE DEPARTMENT FEES. AND WITH THAT, WAS WORKING WITH CHIEF WUSTERHAUSEN ON REALLY KIND OF STREAMLINE THOSE FEES. THE CURRENT FEE SCHEDULE HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT KIND OF LINE ITEM RELATED FEES. AND SO THE THOUGHT BEHIND THIS WAS TO INTRODUCE FEES FOR A LADDER TRUCK, FIRE ENGINE, COMMAND TRUCK, AND KIND OF BUNDLING IT ALL TOGETHER. SO THAT WAY IT'S EASIER TO CAPTURE THOSE FEES AS OPPOSED TO ITEMIZE THINGS. AND THEN LASTLY, WE LOOKED AT THE MUNICIPAL COURT FEES. THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT RELATED TO THE SCHOOL CROSSING FEE. SO SINCE THIS OFFENSE INCLUDES A PASSING SCHOOL BUS VIOLATION AND THEN ALSO A JURY DUTY PAY AMENDING

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OR ADDING PROVISION TO INCREASE THAT FEE FROM OUR CURRENT FEE OF $6 TO $10, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN LINE WITH CEDAR PARK, PROVIDES ROUND ROCK, PAYS $15, GEORGETOWN PAYS $6, AND LIBERTY HILL DOES NOT PAY FOR JURY DUTY FEE. SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE STAFF HERE TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IT'S NOW OPEN. AND I WOULD CALL ON SPEAKERS WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

AND WE'LL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE FEE SCHEDULE AS DESCRIBED ABOVE. AND I WILL SAY ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, THANK YOU ALL FOR ADDING THIS. I KNOW WE'VE HAD I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY REACH OUT CONCERNED ABOUT CONCRETE CANCER. WE TALKED TO OUR STATE SENATORS LAST YEAR ABOUT IT, AND IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE. IN THE LAST SESSION. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO. AND I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ALSO REIMBURSE THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY PAID THE FEE. IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO A WAIVER GOING FORWARD, BUT LIKE WE SAID, WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE THAT HAD TO DEMO THEIR POOLS ALREADY. AND UNFORTUNATELY, SEVERAL OF THEM THAT I KNOW OF ARE ACTUALLY PAYING FULL PRICE FOR A NEW POOL BECAUSE THE POOL COMPANIES WENT UNDER AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET THAT MONEY BACK. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A LOT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COULD DO TO SUPPORT OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. OKAY. MAY I PROPOSE FOR THAT SECTION SO AN APPLICANT MAY REQUEST A FEE WAIVER OR REIMBURSEMENT RELATED TO TO, AND I GUESS Y'ALL WOULD HAVE A PROCESS OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE VERIFICATION. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK ON ADMINISTRATIVELY. A LOT OF OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY. OKAY. SO THIS ALLOWS GIVES US THAT PROCESS TO, TO DO THAT. SO OKAY. THANK YOU. PLACE ONE. THANKS, KEN, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. JUST REALLY WANT TO SAY YOU ARE ON A ROLL TONIGHT. SO WE'LL GIVE YOU THAT.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MARK BOFFERDING, WHO CAME BEFORE COUNCIL A FEW WEEKS BACK AND GAVE US AN UPDATE ON JUROR REIMBURSEMENT. SO GLAD TO SEE THAT THAT'S IN THERE. EXCELLENT PLACE TOO. SO I JUST, I THINK IN PARTICULAR ABOUT THE, THE AMOUNT OF THE FEES AND STUFF, BUT I JUST, I, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS IS, IS THAT A LOT OF TIMES THE CITIZEN, THE CITIZENS THINK THAT THE PERMITS AND FEES ARE LIKE JUST A WAY FOR THE CITY TO GET MONEY OUT OF THEM.

BUT REALLY, THEY, THEY PROVIDE A PURPOSE. AND PART OF THE PURPOSE IS, IS THAT IT HELPS WITH GOOD GOVERNANCE. AND SO IN SITUATIONS LIKE THE ASR, IN SITUATIONS WHERE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GO AND BUILD A POOL OR A STRUCTURE THAT'S NOT PERMITTED, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AFTERWARDS BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT GOES ON. AND, AND IT'S GOOD THAT WE HAVE THESE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THERE IN MOST CASES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY NOMINAL FEES, BUT THEY ALSO HELP BRING STRUCTURE TO SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON WHEN PEOPLE ARE BUILDING AND PEOPLE ARE OPERATING A BUSINESS AND ALL THAT. AND SO THAT THEY DON'T BECAUSE YOU BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE CONSTRUCTION GUY COME AND SAY, OH, NO, WE'RE JUST GOING TO BUILD IT AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO AND CHECK THE PLANS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ALL THESE OTHER THINGS AND DO SHODDY WORK AND ALL THAT. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT IT FORCES THEM TO INTERACT WITH THE CITY. IT FORCES THEM TO, TO KIND OF MEET STANDARDS AND ALL THAT. AND SO, SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR, FOR, FOR UPDATING THIS AND, AND THINGS. AND THE FEES DON'T EVEN COVER THE WORK. I MEAN, IT'S JUST A MATTER, IT'S, THEY'RE NOT THE CITY IS NOT MAKING MONEY ON THESE THINGS. THEY'RE HAVING TO PUT A LOT MORE RESOURCES INTO IT THAN WHAT IT TAKES IN ORDER TO, FOR THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE. SO THANKS AGAIN, PLEASE. 30 YES, I WANT TO ALSO SAY THANK YOU FOR, FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT THAT SAME COMMENT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE PROPER SERVICES FOR OUR CITIZENS HERE IN THE CITY AND NOT NECESSARILY MAKE SLUSH FUND OF MONEY OFF OF FEES. I DID WANT TO HAVE JUST ONE, JUST CLARIFICATION FOR OUR RESIDENTS IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE PROPOSED FEES, THERE'S QUITE A FEW CHANGES WITHIN THE DOCUMENT. WHAT WERE SOME OF THE CRITERIA FOR CHANGING A LOT OF THE FEES TO WHERE WE SEE THERE? YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN ELEVATION IN COST, OR MAYBE THE DELINEATION WAS KIND OF JUST SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT THAT YOURSELF AND THE STAFF USED.

YEAH, I'LL INVITE ROBIN UP HERE BECAUSE A LOT OF THE BULK OF THE FEES WERE DEVELOPMENT RELATED. SO YOU CAN KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT PROCESS. ROBIN. SOME OF THE CITIES WELCOME ROBIN. SO FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FEES, WE EVALUATE OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND TRY TO STAY ON TRACK AND MAKE SURE OUR FEES ARE SIMILAR TO OTHERS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RED LINE, A LOT OF OUR ITEMS WERE CLARIFICATIONS. SO THE FEES ALREADY EXIST FOR JUST KIND OF

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CLEARING UP FOR THE CUSTOMER. LIKE THESE ARE THE SAME THINGS LIKE A MODEL TENANT FINISH OUT, A TENANT FINISH OUT. IT'S THE SAME ITEM. SO IT'S REALLY JUST PROVIDING CLARITY. AWESOME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT JUST FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THE CHANGES ARE, YOU KNOW, IN LINE WITH WHAT IS JUST NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. THANK YOU. PLEASE, FOR I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. PLEASE. FIVE. I DID WANT TO JUST KIND OF CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO THE ASR ISSUES. THERE. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED WAS WHETHER THERE WAS A KNOWN CONCENTRATION OF ASR CASES BY BUILDER, SUBDIVISION OR CONSTRUCTION YEAR. I THINK THAT'S PRUDENT FOR US TO HAVE AS PART OF WHAT WE DO, GO FORWARD JUST IN CASE AS THESE COME FORWARD, IF WE ALREADY KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A SPECIFIC CONCENTRATION, THEN WE KNOW YOU CAN KIND OF ACCELERATE THE PROCESS BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY AWARE OF IT. RIGHT? SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS I ASKED THAT QUESTION. CAN I GET A CLARIFICATION ON ASR AS IT RELATES TO SUPPLY CHAIN? I KNOW THERE WAS A COVID ISSUE. WAS THE CONCRETE ONLY USED, THE CONCRETE THAT WE'RE SEEING FAILING ONLY USED IN POOLS? I WAS I WAS TRYING TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT. YEAH, IT WAS FOUND. I THINK IT WAS FLY ASH. THERE WAS A SHORTAGE AND THEY WEREN'T ADDING IT TO THE MIX FOR THE POOLS. SO WE STARTED SEEING THE FAILURES.

2023. IT WAS MOSTLY POOLS THAT WERE 20, 20, 2021, SOMEWHERE IN THAT TIME FRAME, BUT IT WAS ACROSS THE STATE. THEY WERE SEEING THE PROBLEM. SO SO WE DO WE DO SEE THIS LACK OF I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS IT AGAIN? ASH, FLY, FLY ASH. THERE'S ANOTHER WORD TOO. BUT THAT'S THE ONE I'M COMFORTABLE SAYING. OKAY. YEAH. SO THE, THE LACK OF THIS PARTICULAR INGREDIENT IN THE CONCRETE, IT WAS AGAIN, IT'S ISOLATED TO POOLS. WE DON'T SEE THAT IN ANY OTHER TYPE OF CONCRETE CONSTRUCTION THAT HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET. RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN AND ONE THING TO CLARIFY THAT TO MR. DEAN, THAT WASN'T JUST TEXAS, THAT'S NATIONWIDE. SO YES, UNDERSTOOD, UNDERSTOOD. I KNEW THAT IT WAS ACROSS THE SUPPLY CHAIN THAT WAS EVERYWHERE. AND BECAUSE I DO KNOW A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WERE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS AND COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHY THE POOLS WERE FAILING, RIGHT. SO. THE OTHER PIECE ON THIS AND, AND I CAN'T YOU KIND OF ALLUDED TO THIS AS FAR AS THE DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH ASR. CAN WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THAT TESTING IS CALLED SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME FORWARD WITH THAT, THERE HAS TO BE A LIST OF SPECIFIC THINGS THAT THAT WILL MERIT THAT. IF WE COULD JUST HAVE THAT IN THERE JUST TO PROTECT OURSELVES.

OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FEE SCHEDULE WITH THE ADDITION OF REIMBURSEMENT FOR ASR AND NOT JUST THE WAIVER. IS THAT OKAY? ALL RIGHT. SECOND ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION CARRIES. OH, AND WITH THE AMENDMENT TO ADD TO SECTION SORRY. TO SECTION SORRY. IF WE CAN ADD THAT MOTION FOR THE AMENDMENT TO SECTION A 3.004. AND SEVEN TO ADD OR REIMBURSEMENT WHERE AN APPLICANT CAN REQUEST A FEE, WAIVER OR REIMBURSEMENT. I SAID IT, BUT I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T SAY OKAY, THOSE PARTICULAR SECTIONS. OH, OKAY. OKAY. OH, OKAY. SORRY.

ROBIN FLAGGED ME. SO IT'S OKAY, I WAS ASKING. IT'S REIMBURSEMENT FOR BOTH THE DEMO PERMIT AND THE POOL PERMIT. YES, PLEASE. REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE DEMO AND THE POOL PERMIT IN THE SECTIONS THAT KENT SIRI ALSO MENTIONED. WHATEVER THOSE WERE. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND THE MOTION

[19. Discuss and consider action regarding Comprehensive Plan Case CPA-26-0020 to adopt the Stormwater Master Plan to be included in the Comprehensive Plan, Leander, Williamson and Travis Counties, Texas.]

CARRIES. YEAH. OKAY. AND WE'LL MOVE TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEM 19 DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN KCPA-26-0020. TO ADOPT THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN TO BE INCLUDED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. LEANDER, WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND TRAVIS COUNTIES.

ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER CHAVEZ TO CALL. WELCOME. THANK YOU, COUNCIL AND MAYOR. SO THIS IS WE'RE SEEKING APPROVAL FOR OUR VERY FIRST STORMWATER MASTER PLAN FORMALLY ADOPTED IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND TO GIVE A BACKGROUND, WE'VE HAD A FEW. ONE WORKSHOP AND PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS CONDUCTED FOR ADOPTION TO THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, AND WITH SOME

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RECOMMENDATION OF SOME CHANGES IN THE PREVIOUS SUBMITTAL IN THE REPORT, WHICH ARE ALSO PROVIDED IN THE AGENDA OF WHAT WERE GETTING ARE REVISED. AND SO WITH THAT REVISION, WE'D LIKE TO REQUEST FOR FOR THAT APPROVAL. AND WE'RE HERE FOR ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. PLAY SIX PLAYS FIVE. OKAY. OKAY. I DID WANT TO JUST STATE BECAUSE I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THIS MYSELF, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, BECAUSE WE HAD AUTHORIZED THE DRAINAGE CRITERIA MATERIAL, A MANUAL RATHER ON AUGUST 20TH PRIOR TO THIS PRESENTATION. SO WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION, I WAS JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THAT. THEY JUST CAME OUT OF ORDER, SORT OF. SO I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION. WE ARE DEVELOPING SOMETHING THAT'S SPECIFIC TO THE CITY OF LEANDER. YES. SO WE'LL HAVE A SPECIFIC DRAINAGE CRITERIA MANUAL THAT IS GETTING DONE AS A SEPARATE TASK ORDER RIGHT NOW. OKAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. PLACE FOR. OH, GOOD. THANK YOU. PLEASE. THREE NO COMMENT PLEASE. TWO SO ON THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN AS ANYTHING, EVERYTHING CHANGES THROUGH TIME. AND SO WHAT IS THE PROCESS OR WHAT'S THE WHEN WILL YOU GUYS BE BRINGING IT BACK KIND OF UPDATING AND HOW DOES IT GET UPDATED FROM TIME TO TIME. SO THIS WAS DISCUSSED WITH US AND BACK, BACK, I THINK LAST TIME. AND WE SAT DOWN AND THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT THE REAL PROCESS OF CHANGING THAT WOULD BE. IF THERE IS ANY CHANGES IN THE FUTURE THAT WE NEED TO ADOPT, LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE A ATLAS 14 OR TO BECOME ATLAS 15 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT. WHICH WHICH THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT IN THE INDUSTRY RECENTLY. SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, LIKE WE DO FOR OTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, WHICH WE'VE DONE A FEW ITERATIONS OF OUR CURRENT TRANSPORTATION PLAN HAS GONE THROUGH A COUPLE OF ITERATIONS WHERE WE AMENDED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS. THOSE ARE NOT BIG STUDIES, BUT THEY WHAT THEY DO IS THEY ADOPT THE OR MODIFY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BASED ON WHAT CHANGES ARE SEEN AT THE TIME. SO SO WE SAID, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE JUST HAVE TO STICK TO THAT SAME PROCESS. THERE IS A PROCESS FOR CHANGING OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, GOES THROUGH PUBLIC HEARING, GOES THROUGH COUNCIL AND ALL THAT.

SO WE'D PROBABLY LIKE TO STICK TO THAT JUST TO KEEP THAT FLEXIBILITY AS WELL. FROM AN ANALYSIS STANDPOINT, IT WOULD BE SIMILAR, SIMILAR, COMPARABLE TO WHAT WE DID FOR TRANSPORTATION PLAN. SO WE'D FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU PLEASE. ONE NOTHING TO ADD THIS ON. OKAY. THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND THERE'S THREE OPTIONS. SIX THREE WITH. OR SHOULD I BE MAKING A MOTION TO ADOPT WITH WITH EDITS? OR WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT TO MOTION TO ADOPT WITH THE EDITS? OKAY. AND ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? SECOND, I WILL EDIT MY EDIT AND I DO APPROVE IT. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, THE MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM 20.

[20. Discuss and consider action on amending an Ordinance authorizing uses for the tree mitigation in lieu of fees to support funding of specialized City staff, tree canopy studies, professional consulting services, and City staff support for reviews and mitigation.]

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AMENDING AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE USES FOR TREE MITIGATION IN LIEU OF FEES TO SUPPORT FUNDING OF SPECIALIZED CITY STAFF, TREE CANOPY STUDIES, PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING SERVICES AND CITY STAFF. SUPPORT FOR REVIEWS AND MITIGATION. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ROBIN GRIFFIN. GOOD EVENING. THIS AGENDA ITEM SPEAKS TO AMENDING THE TREE MITIGATION FUND ORDINANCE THAT WE ADOPTED IN 2025. THIS CHANGE WOULD SUPPORT STAFFING, CANOPY STUDY REVIEWS, AND TRAINING FOR STAFF. ONE OF OUR FIRST STEPS WOULD BE TO START A CANOPY PLAN. WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SEVERAL ARBORISTS THAT HAVE EXPLAINED TO US HOW YOU COULD DO A SURVEY OF THE CITY WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING TO GET ON PEOPLE'S PROPERTY. WE DO WITH AERIAL, SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF IDEAS OF THINGS WE COULD DO. WE DO NEED TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR THE FUNDS TO BE USED THAT WAY. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE

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TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO PROVIDE COMMENTS. ONE IS POSITION ONLY. SO LEE'S ATTORNEY IS FOR THIS ITEM. AND THEN I HAVE JULIE BEASLEY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE YOUR COMMENTS AND YOU'D STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. JULIE BEASLEY 418 MESA GRANDE WE TALKED ABOUT FEES. NOW WE'RE ON TO TREES AND A LITTLE BIT OF BEES. SO YOU'RE ON A ROLL WITH US. YOU'RE ON A ROLL WITH US. I HAD TO RIGHT. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE AMENDING THE ORDINANCE FOR THE SIGNIFICANT AND HERITAGE TREE ORDINANCE. I'M CITIZEN. I'M ALSO A BEEKEEPER. SO I'M HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON THE VALUE OF TREES AND CANOPIES, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE MOST VALUABLE THINGS ARE NOT THE MOST OBVIOUS.

WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT OUR MATURE TREE CANOPY, THEY SEE SHADE, BEAUTY AND PROPERTY VALUE. BUT WHEN A BEEKEEPER LOOKS AT A MATURE OAK, ELM, MESQUITE, OR A NATIVE WILLOW, WE SEE A MASSIVE VERTICAL PASTURE. A SINGLE MATURE TREE CAN PROVIDE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF BLOOMS AND POLLEN. SURPRISINGLY, MORE THAN A FULL FIELD OF WILDFLOWERS FOR MY HIVES AND FOR THE THOUSANDS OF POLLINATORS THAT CALLIE AND HER HOME ARE. MATURE TREE CANOPY IS QUITE LITERALLY A LIFELINE. THIS LIFELINE HAS BEEN CONTINUOUSLY SHRINKING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. YOU CAN ASK ANY LOCAL BEEKEEPER AND THEY WILL TELL YOU THE AGGRESSIVE DEVELOPMENT IN OUR AREA HAS NEGATIVELY AFFECTED OUR BEES AND OUR HONEY PRODUCTION. RIGHT NOW, OUR CURRENT REGULATIONS HAVE A MAJOR BLIND SPOT AND ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO CLEAR UP TO 50% OF A SITE'S MATURE TREES. THIS CREATES A CATASTROPHIC FRAGMENTATION OF HABITAT DUE TO CANOPY LOSS. WHEN A CENTURY OLD HERITAGE TREE IS CLEARED, YOU CANNOT SIMPLY REPLACE ITS ECOLOGICAL VALUE BY PLANTING A COUPLE OF THIN TWO INCH TRAP SAPLINGS IN A FRONT YARD. IT TAKES DECADES FOR THESE NEW TREES TO SCALE UP TO THE LEVEL OF NECTAR AND POLLEN PRODUCTION THAT OUR LOCAL ECOSYSTEM NEEDS TO STAY HEALTHY. I WON'T SEE THIS RECOVERY IN OUR LIFETIME.

PROTECTING OUR TREES IS NOT ABOUT STOPPING PROGRESS. IT'S ABOUT ENSURING THAT THE GROWTH OF LEANDER DOES NOT COME AT A COST. AT OUR BIODIVERSITY, HEALTHY TREES MEAN HEALTHY HIVES. HEALTHY HIVES MEAN A RESILIENT, THRIVING LOCAL ENVIRONMENT. SO I URGE THE COUNCIL TO PRESERVE OUR CANOPIES AND UPDATE THE TREE ORDINANCE AND KEEP LEANDER GREEN. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. PLEASE. ONE COMMENT. NO. OKAY. I WAS LIKE, OKAY, PLEASE DO. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF STAFF COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT. BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING THESE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS. SO SPECIFICALLY NUMBER C STAFF FUNDING FOR CITY STAFF WITH EXPERTISE AND OR SPECIALIZATION IN TREE PRESERVATION AND CONSULTING SERVICES FOR CREATION, ADOPTION MANAGEMENT AND STUDY AND PLAN. SO KIND OF ON THE POSITION SIDE, WHEN WE SEE THAT AS PART OF THESE EXISTING DUTIES, OR WE SEE THAT AS A BRAND NEW POSITION, OR THAT'S ALL THEY DO, IT'S A NEW POSITION. THAT WAS PART OF OUR RECENT BUDGET. YOU TURNED YOUR MIC OFF. SO WE'RE STILL TALKING. WE CAN HEAR YOU. SO AND THEN THE THE SERVICES WOULD BE FOR THAT BECAUSE I THINK WHAT IS ARE LIKE $7 MILLION IN THIS FUND? IS THAT CORRECT? ABOUT. RIGHT. RIGHT. AND, AND SO WE SEE THAT AS A WAY TO, TO MAINTAIN, MANAGE WHAT WE HAVE. AND, AND THEN ALSO LOOK AT GROWING IT TO. AND THAT PERSON OR THAT STAFF WOULD START LOOKING AT USING SOME OF THOSE FUNDS IN ORDER TO INCREASE OUR CANOPY OR INCREASE THE NUMBER OF TREES, THE TYPE OF TREES THAT WE HAVE AND ALL THAT. YEAH. SO WE WOULD BE FACILITATING A CANOPY STUDY AND A KIND OF A TREE SURVEY OF THE CITY. AND I THINK WE WOULD START WITH PROBABLY SOME CONTRACT LABOR TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL COME IN TO HELP US BUILD THE PROGRAM. AND WHERE WOULD THIS SIT ON THIS IN THE STAFF STRUCTURE IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES UNDER THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT? THANK YOU. PLEASE. SORRY. I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF LED TO A LITTLE BIT OF THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE WATER CONSERVATION AND AND BILL TEETERS OVER THAT FOR WATER CONSERVATION. AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE UTILIZATION OF LIKE 79% OF OUR WATER, PRIMARILY ON RESIDENTIAL. SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON THE THOUGHTS OF HAVING A FULL, COMPLETE TEAM SEPARATE FROM KIND OF WORKING IN PARALLEL WITH THAT TEAM, YOU KNOW, WHY WAS THERE A NEED OR JUSTIFICATION TO HAVE THAT COMPLETELY SEPARATE? SO THIS POSITION WOULD HELP WITH DEVELOPMENT REVIEW. SO THEY WOULD HELP WITH TREE REMOVAL PERMITS, THE DESIGN OF SUBDIVISIONS AND SITE DEVELOPMENT. SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE FOCUSED ON TREES. BUT WE STILL WOULD WORK WITH BILL

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TEETER'S TEAM. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. PLEASE FOR. SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I'M VERY EXCITED TO GET SOMEONE IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. AS AN ARBORIST. CURRENTLY, WE RELY ON THE DEVELOPER TO PROVIDE AN ARBORIST REPORT, AND I THINK THAT THIS WILL IMPROVE THAT PROCESS GREATLY. I'M EXCITED FOR ALL OF IT. SO THANK YOU PLEASE. FIVE I THINK THIS ACTUALLY TOUCHES ON SOME OF THE EARLIER COMMENTS THAT WE HAD DURING THE WORKSHOP TODAY, AND SO THE DIRECTION IS CORRECT IN MY OPINION. WE'RE FINDING MECHANISMS TO BE ABLE TO FACILITATE THE VISION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP HERE, AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE ALREADY AGREED ON BRINGING SOMEONE WITH ARBORIST EXPERIENCE ONTO STAFF. IT JUST HELPS FURTHER FACILITATE THAT PROCESS. SO WE'RE GETTING A BALANCED LOOK AT THE OVERALL PICTURE. THIS IS A VERY HOLISTIC PICTURE TO THE POINT OF THE WOMAN WITH THE BEES. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER HERE. SO I THINK THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND THE BIGGER PICTURE. AND I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE STAFF'S EFFORTS IN THIS PARTICULAR REGARD. SO THANK YOU.

26 GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THIS ACTION ITEM. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ITEM 21 HAS BEEN PULLED FROM THE AGENDA DUE TO STAFF ERROR AND WILL APPEAR ON THE OCTOBER 15TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL

[22. Discuss and consider action regarding Heritage Tree Removal request associated with Subdivision Case PP-26-0084 regarding the removal of one (1) Heritage Tree as part of the Sullivan Tract Preliminary Plat one (1) parcel of land 11.288 acres ± in size, more particularly described by Williamson Central Appraisal District Parcel R022921; and generally located at the northern terminus of Whit Creek Trail Leander, Williamson County, Texas.]

REGULAR AGENDA. SO WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 22 DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING HERITAGE TREE REMOVAL REQUESTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SUBDIVISION. CASE PP-26-0084. REGARDING THE REMOVAL OF ONE HERITAGE TREE AS A PART OF THE SULLIVAN TRACK PRELIMINARY PLAT, ONE PARCEL OF LAND. OH GOSH, 11.288 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS IN SIZE IS STATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ROBIN GRIFFIN. GOOD EVENING. SO THIS APPLICATION IS FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE SULLIVAN TRACT. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED OFF OF BAGDAD ROAD AT THE VERY NORTHERN PART OF THE CITY LIMITS. THE COUNCIL DID REVIEW THE PHASING PLAN FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT IN MAY OF 2025. THEY HAVE PREPARED THEIR PRELIMINARY PLAT AND AS PART OF THAT PLAT, THEY WORK ON A A TREE SURVEY. WITH THEIR TREE SURVEY, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE ONE HERITAGE TREE, AND IT'S LOCATED THIS GREEN CIRCLE RIGHT HERE. THAT LOCATION LINES UP PERFECTLY WITH THE RANCH SUBDIVISION WHERE THE ROAD IS SUPPOSED TO EXTEND. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT EXTENSION FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO MEET THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. REQUIREMENTS FOR POINTS OF ACCESS. THIS CASE WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL. AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. PLEASE. ONE DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO. I'M GOOD HERE. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE COMMENTS DOWN HERE. OH PLEASE. OH. PLACE FOR YOU. DO GO AHEAD. IT SEEMS LIKE THE ROAD COULD EASILY GO AROUND THAT TREE. IS THAT NOT THE CASE? SO WHEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT LIKE THE THE CRITICAL ROOT ZONE. NO I DON'T THE ACTUAL ROAD IS GOING TO BE RIGHT AT THE BASE OF THE TREE. SO IT WOULD BE AN AWKWARD CURVE TO AVOID IT IN THE ROAD. SO I THINK THE TREE PROBABLY WOULDN'T SURVIVE WHEN THEY BUILT THE ROAD. PLEASE. FIVE. I DID WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT I REQUESTED ADDITIONAL MAP VISIBILITY INTO THIS ROAD, SO THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT, BECAUSE THE CONTEXT OF THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE THE ROAD IS COMING THROUGH. AND WITH REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL MITIGATION OPTIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WHETHER WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE THE ROAD OR MAYBE REDIRECT THE ROAD, GIVEN THAT IT IS A SECONDARY ROUTE FOR FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES. I THINK THAT KIND OF ANSWERS THE QUESTION THERE, THAT THIS IS THE BEST OPTION THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. IT'S UNFORTUNATE TO LOSE THE TREE IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, BUT I JUST THINK THAT GIVEN ANY KIND OF MITIGATION EFFORTS THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY UNDERTAKE, THERE WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC. THIS JUST UNFORTUNATELY, THESE ARE HOW THESE GO SOMETIMES. SOMETIMES WE DO HAVE TO TO DO THIS. SO I APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER NOTE THAT THIS TRACT IS CURRENTLY WITH THIS HERITAGE PLAN IS A 214 ONE ACRE HOMES, CORRECT. AND NOT THE 800. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THEY'RE BOTH LIKE, SO ARE THEY GOING TO

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CUT THESE TREES DOWN AND NOT DO THAT? DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT? LIKE WHICH PLAN ARE THEY? YEAH. SO THEY, THEY'RE CURRENTLY ENTERTAINING A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE, THE COUNCIL TO ADD MORE UNITS TODAY. THEY'VE SUBMITTED OR THEY'RE GETTING READY TO SUBMIT CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR REVIEW FOR THE ROAD. SO I DON'T THINK THEY'VE ACTUALLY DECIDED WHICH WAY THEY'RE GOING. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE A ROAD CONNECTION AT THAT LOCATION. AND I DO THINK THEY PROBABLY WON'T START CONSTRUCTION ON THE ROADS, THEN CHANGE IT BECAUSE IT'LL CHANGE THEIR WHOLE ROAD NETWORK TO ACCOMMODATE MORE HOMES. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THIS ACTION ITEM. I MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

[23. Discuss and consider action regarding Tree Removal Case TRP-26-0059 regarding the removal of two (2) heritage trees associated with the Crossroads Site Development (SD-26-0446), generally located south of Hero Way West, approximately 400 feet west of Bagdad Road, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.]

THANK YOU. ITEM 23 DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING TREE REMOVAL. CASE TRP DASH 26-0059.

REGARDING THE REMOVAL OF TWO HERITAGE TREES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CROSSROADS SITE DEVELOPMENT SD DASH 26-0446. GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF HERO WAY WEST, APPROXIMATELY 400FT WEST OF BAGHDAD ROAD. LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ROBIN GRIFFIN. GOOD EVENING. SO THIS IS A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE CROSSROADS DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF HERO AND BAGDAD ROAD. THE COUNCIL DID EVALUATE THIS ZONING IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. THEY'RE NOW AT THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STAGE, AND THEY HAVE THEIR PROPOSED BUILDING AND DRIVE AISLES LAID OUT ON THE SCREEN. THE TWO YELLOW CIRCLES REPRESENT THE HERITAGE TREES, AND THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR TRUCK COURT THAT GOES BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. THEY ARE SAVING A LOT OF TREES IN THE FLOODPLAIN AREA TO THE SOUTH OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID REVIEW THIS REQUEST AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IS THERE. THERE'S NO THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SHE HANDED IT OFF TO EVERYBODY. OKAY. SO Y'ALL HAVE A POWERPOINT IN FRONT OF YOU? YES WE DO, AND THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. PRINT ON MY ONE FOR MYSELF SO WE CAN FOLLOW ALONG EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ON SCREEN. SO GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THANK YOU. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT. MY NAME IS DAN MITCHELL. I THINK I'VE TALKED WITH HAD LONG CONVERSATIONS WITH A LOT OF YOU ALREADY. SO REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. JUST FROM THE START.

GOING TO SLIDE TWO. OUR AIM HERE WAS TO, TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE CLASS A AMENITIES THAT YOU NORMALLY SEE WITH LARGER BUILDINGS, LARGER CLASS A INSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENTS AND CATER TO SMALL SPACES THAT WE FEEL IS BETTER SUITED FOR THE CITY OF LEANDER AND LIVING IN. SLIDE THREE. AND WE ALSO WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. I THINK WE WE MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGH THE REZONING THAT WE WORKED OUT A DEAL WITH ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS, BRUCE, TO GIVE HIM MORE SPACE IN HIS BACKYARD. SO IF YOU GO WELL, IF YOU GO FORWARD OR BACKWARDS ON THE SLIDES, IT'S 550, 45 OF THE TREE. WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON? SLIDE FOUR, EDGES FORWARD OR BACKWARDS. YOU GO TO SLIDE TWO. OR YOU COULD GO SLIDE FOUR. AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY GO BACK TO SLIDE THREE. IF YOU'RE AT SLIDE FOUR. BUT SO NOT ONLY SERVING HIM, BUT ALSO ONE THING WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT ROBIN HIGHLIGHTED EARLIER WAS THE FACT THAT WE'RE LEAVING MUCH OF THE AREA. THIS IS A 21 ACRE SITE. WE'RE LEAVING ABOUT SEVEN ACRES UNTOUCHED. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THIS LASER POINTER TOP. SO THIS AREA HAS SOME OF THE DENSEST TREE COVER. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY PRESERVING IT AND NOT EVEN TOUCHING IT.

MOVING TO SLIDE FOUR. WE'RE HERE TODAY ASKING REMOVAL OF TWO HERITAGE TREES THAT ARE AT KI THAT INTERFERE WITH KEY ASPECTS OF OUR PROJECT. 5036. SORRY. AND 50 3436 INTERFERES

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WITH THE FIRE LANE. AND TALKING INTERNALLY, WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS WE HAD VERY LITTLE WIGGLE ROOM TO WORK WITH THERE, AND. 5034. THANK YOU. THAT IS THAT IT INTERFERES WITH THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS A KEY ACCESS DRIVE FOR THE THE 18 WHEELERS THAT ARE COMING TO AND FROM HERE. WE NOTE THAT EARLY ON IN, IN OUR ZONING CONVERSATIONS, WE. WE FELT THAT NO, WE ALL AGREED THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO NOT. WE WANTED TO LIMIT ACCESS TO BAGHDAD. SO ALL THE TRUCK TRAFFIC WOULD BE COMING IN FROM HERE AWAY. SO WHAT HAVE WE DONE? I KNOW A LOT OF DEVELOPERS HAVE COME HERE AND TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS HOW THESE TREES INTERFERE WITH X, Y, AND Z. AND YOU GUYS ASK, WHAT HAVE YOU GUYS DONE? AND LET'S GO OVER IN THE NEXT SLIDE. SLIDE FIVE. WE'VE ASKED WE LOOKED INTO MOVING THEM. WE LEARNED ABOUT WHAT TREES THEY ARE FROM TALKING TO AN ARBORIST.

BECAUSE IN PAST PROJECTS, WHEN EVEN WHEN WE WEREN'T REQUIRED TO, WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE SOME LIVE OAKS. NOW WE FOUND LATER THAT THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE BEST SUCCESS RATE. BUT LET'S FORGET ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF THIS DISCUSSION. THESE ARE POST OAKS AND WE FOUND THAT THEY ARE HIGHLY SUSCEPTIBLE TO DECAY, MOVING THEM AROUND TO DISTURBANCES. AND SO WE LEARNED VERY QUICKLY FROM ONE AND CONFIRMED WITH ANOTHER THAT THAT WAS NOT GOING TO WORK.

WE'VE ALSO LOOKED INTO DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN MOVE THE SITE AROUND BUILDINGS, FLIP, FLIP FLOPPING THEM WITH TRUCKS OR PARKING. AND WE FOUND THAT THE TREES ULTIMATELY WENT FROM THE TRUCK COURT TO THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT. SO WE FOUND THAT THAT COULDN'T WORK AND EVEN MOVED AROUND THE DRIVES. AND IN THE CRITICAL ROOT ZONE, REALLY WE FELT IN 50 AND TEN BECAUSE WITH THESE TREES BEING SUSCEPTIBLE TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, EVEN DEVELOPING IN THEIR CARS, WHICH THE YELLOW AREA SORT OF GIVES AN ABSTRACT IDEA OF HOW FAR IT GOES, COULD ULTIMATELY LEAD TO THE DEATH OF THAT TREE A FEW YEARS DOWN THE LINE. AND ONE THING TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WAS IN ANOTHER SLIDE TALKING ABOUT THE THIRD ITEM, PRESERVATION, I SAID BEFORE PRESERVING ABOUT SEVEN ACRES OF THE SITE, WE'RE ALSO GROWING ABOUT 63 TREES NATIVE TO THE AREA. WE'RE NOT TALKING CRAPE MYRTLES. WE'RE TALKING OAKS, ELMS, AND THAT IS IN THE LAST EXHIBIT OF THE SLIDE DECK THAT YOU HAVE IS OUR LANDSCAPING PLAN. SO. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TREE REMOVAL REQUEST. CITY STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED IT AND OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. PLACE SIX. I JUST I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND I APPRECIATE YOU LAYING OUT. SORT OF LIKE WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IS WHAT TREES ARE, ARE REMAINING ON THE LOT AND THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE TO PRESERVE WHAT YOU HAVE. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PLACE FIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND HEADWATER COMPANIES FOR THE ADDITIONAL EFFORTS THAT YOU'VE UNDERTAKEN IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE DISCUSSION, THE OPENNESS TO THE CONVERSATION, AND BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK TO COUNCIL FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS AND THESE TYPES OF CASES. IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUATION. AND WE'VE SAID THIS SEVERAL TIMES TONIGHT. I WANT TO THANK YOU, OF COURSE, MR. MITCHELL, PERSONALLY, OUR CONVERSATIONS WERE VERY, VERY HELPFUL TO ME IN THE CONSIDERATION ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS FOR. HI. I WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THIS GOES BACK TO OUR TREE ORDINANCE. AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, IF WE IF IF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MAYBE HAD A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH THIS, WITH SOME PARKING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE TOO FAR ALONG FOR YOU, FOR YOU GUYS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I THINK THIS GOES RIGHT BACK TO OUR OUR TREE ORDINANCE AND LOOKING AT IT HOLISTICALLY, BUT HAVING SOME FLEXIBILITY, PLEASE.

THREE I JUST THINK I HAVE JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. I KNOW THAT WE TALKED WE DID DISCUSS THAT THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE FIRE LINE. SO THAT WAS VALIDATED. I KNOW YOU DIDN'T. I

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DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT A CHANCE TO GET BACK TO ME, BUT THAT WAS VALIDATED THAT THE THE BIGGEST IMPACT IS THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT FIRE LINE IN THAT AREA. YEAH. YES, MA'AM. WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE FIRE LINE. HOWEVER, THE FIRE LINE DOES HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY. OKAY.

BUT THE THE 18 WHEELER TRAFFIC DOES NOT HAVE THAT MUCH FLEXIBILITY. SO THE 18 WHEELER TRAFFIC IS GOING TO PUT THAT FIRE LANE WHERE IT IS. IT CAN BE 26 FOOT WIDE. I THINK WE HAVE IT SHOWN A LITTLE WIDER, JUST TO BE CLEAR. BUT THE FIRE LANE ITSELF IS NOT NECESSARILY THE PROBLEM. IT'S THE TRUCK TRAFFIC. OKAY. AND I KNOW THERE WAS THERE WAS A PROPOSED RAMP, I THINK ON 5034. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND SO THERE WAS THERE WAS NOT A WAY TO REDESIGN THAT TO PRESERVE THAT PARTICULAR TREE. SO WHAT WE FOUND OUT IN OUR STUDIES IS THAT THE THE GREENFIELD POST OAK TREES REQUIRE A LOT MORE SPACE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, 100%. I MEAN, HIGH LEVEL OF, OF GUARANTEE OF SAFETY. THE CODE THAT IS A HALF CRITICAL, HALF OF THE HALF, HALF OF THE FULL CRITICAL ROOT ZONE IS THE REQUIREMENT. AND THAT WORKS MOST OF THE TIME, BUT IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE. AND THESE GREENFIELD, GREENFIELD POST OAKS WOULD PROBABLY STRUGGLE MORE THAN MOST OTHER TREES. SO IF WE FOLLOW THE CODE, THERE'S STILL A GOOD CHANCE WE'D LOSE IT. SO TO ENSURE SAFETY OF IT, WE WERE LOOKING AT MAYBE 500 ZERO SQUARE FOOT TO SAVE IT, WHICH TAKES OUT A BIG CHUNK OF THAT WHOLE AREA.

GOT IT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE WERE RUNNING INTO. IT WAS WE COULD WE COULD PROBABLY MEET THE CODE, BUT WE MIGHT LOSE THE TREE. GOT IT. THANK YOU. PLEASE. TWO I DO WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS.

I KNOW THAT WHEN WE HAD THE ORIGINAL ZONING MEETING AND WE LAID OUT THE THE MEETING WE HAD WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO GO WITH THE FLOW IS GOING TO BE AND EVERYTHING. AND, AND KIND OF ONCE WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THAT, THAT KIND OF THAT KIND OF LAID OUT HOW THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE. AND BASED ON THAT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT GOING INTO THE FLOODPLAIN, WITHOUT MOVING DIRT IN AND DIGGING DEEPER AND DOING ALL THOSE THINGS IN ORDER TO GET THE MORE SPACE SO YOU COULD SAVE THAT TREE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'D END UP DOING PROBABLY IS CUTTING INTO THE FLOODPLAIN AND ALL THAT. AND SO, SO I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD SPOT HERE. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE MET, WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TAKING OUT, LET'S SAY YOU IT WAS A MANDATE THAT YOU HAD TO SAVE THE TREE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING OUT, YOU KNOW, 5000FT■!S OF A BUILDING OF A PROJECT. THAT IS WHAT PROBABLY IS THAT 3% OF THE WHOLE PROJECT, OR IS IT 4%? IT'S HIGHER THAN THAT. SO IT'D BE MORE THAN 5000FT■!S.

YOU CAN COME TO THE MIC. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. WE'RE RECORDING. YES. SO I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING FOUR. YEAH. SO SO RIGHT THERE THAT'S ABOUT 14 INCH CHANGE. THEY'RE TALKING.

BUT ONE THING TO NOTE IS THE TURN RADIUS OF THOSE 18 WHEELERS. THAT'S ANOTHER THING.

THAT'S ANOTHER KEY POINT TO THINK ABOUT IS HOW THAT, HOW THAT TURNING RADIUS INTERFERES WITH THAT HERITAGE TREE. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS, AND THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO NOT TO USE YOU AS A YEAH, AS THE, AS THE WHIPPING BOY FOR, FOR WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN ECONOMIC VALUE HERE TO WHAT THE PROJECT IS AND EVERYTHING.

AND ONCE WE KIND OF START DIGGING INTO THIS AND SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO SQUEEZE THIS AND THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BASICALLY DROP DOWN THE VALUE ON THAT PROPERTY, THE FUTURE VALUE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE PROPERTY OF THE OF THAT DAY, IT'S THE PROPERTY. WHAT THE VALUE OF IS IT GOING 30 YEARS OUT? BECAUSE BASICALLY WHEN YOU GUYS FACTOR THIS PROJECT OUT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. AND SO, AND, AND IT HAS A BIG IMPACT ON THAT. AND, AND I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE QUALITY OF THE WAREHOUSE THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN THERE, IT'S NOT A WAREHOUSE, SORRY, YOU CAN CALL IT WAREHOUSE. IT'S WAREHOUSE WITH A CLASS A FINISHES. IT'S GOING TO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW HOW TALL GLASS PANES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO BE WHAT, 20FT ON THESE BUILDINGS ON THE STOREFRONTS.

YEAH. THE STOREFRONTS ARE GOING TO LOOK FANTASTIC. YEAH. I MEAN, SO YOU'RE TALKING, I THINK 24 FOOT CEILINGS. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO DEMISE IT DOWN TO 2500FT■!S, I THINK WAS WHAT WE OR 5000, 5500 FOR BUILDING TWO, WHICH IS SECOND FROM THE SMALLEST. SO THEY GET PROGRESSIVELY BIGGER. SO ONE IS 13, TWO IS LIKE 5500, BUT 43,000 TOTAL. SO WE'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY CLOSE TO 40, 50, 60 PEOPLE WORKING THERE AT A MINIMUM. ONCE YOU KIND OF GET OVER MAYBE 150, THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR LEANDER. AND SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE ALL THE THINGS YOU GUYS HAVE GONE THROUGH AND EVERYTHING AND, AND STUFF. THANK YOU. PLACE ONE.

LET'S REITERATE MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL MEETING WITH US BEFORE THE MEETING. JUST TO REITERATE SOME OF THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TONIGHT THROUGH OUR

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WORKSHOP, THROUGH SOME OF THESE APPROVALS. AND WE STILL HAVE MORE TO DO ON HERITAGE TREES.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR ENVIRONMENT, OF OUR OF OUR TREES, BUT ALSO ENSURING THAT WE'RE NOT BEING ONEROUS TO DEVELOPMENTS. AND I THINK THAT THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE IS, IS MEETING THE STANDARD THAT WE'RE ASKING, WHICH IS ASKING Y'ALL TO, TO EXPLAIN WHY THE HERITAGE TREE REMOVAL ARE HAPPENING, BECAUSE WE CAN'T BE IN A SITUATION IN WHICH WE'RE BLOCKING DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT BEING FLEXIBLE TO THE FACT THAT FOLKS HAVE TRIED TO MITIGATE. BUT WE ALSO EXPECT YOU ALL TO EXPLAIN TO US WHY YOU'RE REQUESTING THIS. SO I THINK THIS IS A FINE BALANCE HERE, AND I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S AN ACTION ITEM.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 24. DISCUSS

[24. Discuss and consider action regarding Tree Removal Case TRP-26-0060 regarding the removal of one (1) heritage tree associated with the Building Permit BLDR-26-11313, located at 1717 Garlock Drive, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.]

AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING TREE REMOVAL CASE TRP 26-0060. REGARDING THE REMOVAL OF ONE HERITAGE TREE ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT. BLDR26-11313 LOCATED AT 1717 GARLOCK DRIVE, LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ROBIN GRIFFIN. GOOD EVENING. SO THIS IS A REQUEST TO REMOVE A HERITAGE TREE FROM 1717 GARLOCK DRIVE. THIS IS COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL BECAUSE THE HERITAGE TREE IS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE DISTURBANCE ZONE FOR THE HOUSE, SO THEY AREN'T PERMITTED TO TAKE IT OUT WITHOUT GOING THROUGH A MITIGATION PROCESS. AND IN THIS CASE, THEY'VE BUILT THE HOUSE AND IT SEEMS THAT IT HAS DAMAGED THE TREE AND IT'S NOT GOING TO SURVIVE. SO THEY ARE REQUESTING TO REMOVE IT. THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 10TH. AND THERE'S A TYPO IN THE AGENDA. THEY ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF APPROVING THE TREE REMOVAL. AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I THINK I HAD ASKED.

BUT DID WE CONFIRM THAT THE THE PERSON WHO HAS PURCHASED THIS HOME IS IN AGREEMENT WITH REMOVING THIS? CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. GREAT PLAY. SIX OKAY. PLACE FIVE JUST TO UNDERSCORE THE THE DAMAGE TO THIS TREE HAS ALREADY OCCURRED, CORRECT? CORRECT. THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS TREE TO SURVIVE IS REMOTE, RIGHT? ALSO, JUST RECONFIRMING THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO HAVE THE TREE BE NEXT TO THE HOUSE. THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLANNING. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS MORNING. BUT THEY DAMAGED THE TREE. CORRECT. THEY ARE WELL AWARE THAT THE CRITICAL ROOT ZONE AROUND THAT TREE, WHAT THAT IS. AND THEY BUILT THE HOUSE AND DAMAGED THE TREE. CORRECT. I HAVEN'T HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM, BUT I'M PRETTY CERTAIN IT'S CLEAR. OKAY, SO THIS WOULD BE REWARDING THEM FOR DAMAGING A TREE THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO PRESERVE. I WOULD SAY THEY'RE NOT BEING REWARDED BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING MITIGATION FEES FOR REMOVING THE TREE. IF IT WAS IN THAT DISTURBANCE ZONE, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THE FEES. SO I, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE LOOPHOLES AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS SAY, OH, WELL, WE DIDN'T REALIZE IT. SO NOW WE'RE COMING BACK TO GET ADDITIONAL TREES CUT DOWN. SO I THINK THAT IN THAT, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE, WE REALLY NEED TO DEFINE THAT LOOPHOLE AS WELL AND CLOSE IT. PLEASE. THREE. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THERE WAS A MASTER ARBORIST THAT DID REVIEW THIS TREE AND SAY THAT IT WAS NOT IN GOOD STANDING, AND THAT IF THERE IS EVEN ANY MITIGATION WORK DONE TO TRY TO PRESERVE IT, IT WOULD EVENTUALLY DIE. CORRECT. SO I DON'T HAVE THAT WITH ME. LIKE IF THEY ARE SAYING IT WOULDN'T SURVIVE IF THEY TRIED TO MITIGATE, BUT IT WAS DOCUMENTED THAT IT WAS DAMAGED BY THE CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE THE ROOT ZONE WAS IMPACTED ACCORDING TO THE REPORT. SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO VIABILITY IN THIS TREE. OKAY. THANK YOU. PLEASE DO. I THINK THE ASSERTION THAT IN THIS CASE, THE HOUSE IS BEING BUILT NEXT TO IT, THEY SOLD THE LOT. THEY PROBABLY PAID A PREMIUM A LOT PREMIUM TO GET THE TREE NEXT TO IT. AND NOW THEY'RE FINDING A LOOPHOLE TO TO CUT IT DOWN AFTER THE HOUSE IS BUILT. IS THIS. I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. I THINK THAT THERE ARE LEGITIMATE THINGS THAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU GO WHEN YOU BUILD THINGS. AND, AND, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I, I CAN TELL YOU, THOSE PEOPLE PROBABLY WANT THAT TREE AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT. AND IF WE DON'T ALLOW THEM TO, I GUESS, CUT IT DOWN, IT'S GOING TO FALL ON THEIR HOUSE RIGHT AFTER THEY BUILD IT. SO I WOULD DEFINITELY APPROVE THIS. I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN HERRERA AND COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR. SO KUDOS.

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YES. DO YOU KNOW IF THE HOME IS CURRENTLY OWNED OR IF IT'S DEVELOPER OWNED? I THINK THEY'VE CLOSED AND IT'S NOW OWNED BY AN INDIVIDUAL. OKAY. AND THEY'RE OKAY WITH THE TREE BEING CUT DOWN. OKAY. YEP. ALL RIGHT. THIS ACTION ITEM. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THANK YOU. WE'VE GOT TWO MOTIONS. SECOND. WE'LL TAKE IT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ITEM 25. DISCUSS AND

[25. Discuss and consider action regarding Tree Removal Case TRP-26-0057 regarding the removal of one (1) Heritage Tree associated with the Wildspring Phase 3 subdivision (PICP-26-0294), generally located northwest of the intersection of CR 175 and CR 177, Leander, Williamson County, Texas.]

CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING TREE REMOVAL. CASE TRP 26-0057. REGARDING THE REMOVAL OF ONE HERITAGE TREE ASSOCIATED WITH THE WILD SPRING PHASE THREE SUBDIVISION. PICP26-0294.

GENERALLY LOCATED NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF CR 175 AND KR 177. LEANDER WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ROBIN GRIFFIN. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS MY LAST REMOVAL CASE FOR THE NIGHT, SO I'M VERY HAPPY. THIS IS THE THE WELLSPRING SUBDIVISION. AND THEY'VE COMPLETED THEIR PRELIMINARY PLAT. AND WE HAVE A TREE REMOVAL CASE FOR HERITAGE TREE. I BELIEVE IT'S THIS TREE. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE. THAT'S A HERITAGE TREE. THIS WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. AND THEY DID RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE REMOVAL OF THE TREE. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. PLEASE. ONE ANY COMMENTS. OH ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. OH OKAY. COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. OH YEAH. YEAH. SO THIS ACTUALLY IS AN INTERESTING CASE BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU JUST SAW. SO WE DO HAVE THIS HERITAGE TREE. IT IS PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED. IT IS BASICALLY IN THE MIDDLE NOT NECESSARILY IN THE MIDDLE. THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT. THANK YOU.

CONFLICTS WITH ANY POTENTIAL FUTURE HOME THAT THE PRODUCTION BUILDER COULD PUT THERE. AND SO THIS IS KIND OF SIMILAR IN THAT SCENARIO TO WHERE THANKS. IF WE WAIT AND WE BUILD, IT COULD POTENTIALLY GET DISTURBED AND WE'D BE RIGHT BACK HERE. SO THAT LOOPHOLE THAT YOU GUYS WERE REFERENCING, THAT'S THAT'S THIS RIGHT HERE. SO WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING WITH WHAT WE PRESENTED THAT THESE ARE SEVERAL, I THINK THERE ARE NINE DIFFERENT PRODUCTION PLANS THAT THE BUILDER HAS THAT DO NOT FIT WITH THIS TREE. AND SO OUR REQUEST IS TO REMOVE IT. NOW, PAY THE MITIGATION AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT INEVITABLY IT IS GOING TO GET DAMAGED AND IT WILL LIKELY COME OUT. AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK HERE WITH YOU GUYS. SO THAT THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE REQUEST TONIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M CHRIS WEEKS, I'M WITH THE WITH TOLL BROTHERS ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT SIDE. AND WE DO EXTENSIVE STUDIES. WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE LOTS AND EVERYTHING THAT IS INVOLVED WITH PUTTING A PRODUCTION HOME ON THESE LOTS, AND LIKE YOU SAID, IN FRONT OF YOU IS A PACKET THAT SHOWS ALL OF OUR NINE DIFFERENT PLANS, DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS. ALL OF THESE WILL IMPACT THIS TREE. SO WE'RE REQUESTING TO REMOVE IT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PLACE ONE. I'M GOOD FOR NOW. YOU CAN COME BACK TO ME. OKAY. PLEASE DO SO. SO, ROBIN, REMIND ME THIS ONE'S COME BEFORE THE ZONING ON THIS HAS COME BEFORE US TWICE BEFORE, RIGHT? OR MAYBE THREE TIMES BEFORE I, WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL BECAUSE IT WAS A COMMERCIAL ZONING LOCATION BEFORE. IS THIS NOT THAT CORNER? IT IS NOT. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. WELL THEN. SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS. OH, NO, I DON'T HAVE THE ZONING. WAS THAT WASN'T THAT AN APPOINTMENT? THAT WAS 2022. SO IT'S BEEN A MINUTE. SO IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF AN EMPLOYMENT ZONE? NO. CAN WE COME DOWN THE WRONG CORNER? WRONG. OKAY. SO WE COULD PUT A TINY HOME THERE, PLEASE. PLACE THREE. OKAY.

PLACE FOUR. SO CUT IT DOWN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO A GOOD JOB PRESERVING IT IS NOT A GREAT, YOU KNOW, ARGUMENT FOR ME. LIKE THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. PLEASE. FIVE SO JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN US HERE TONIGHT, BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN THIS, RIGHT? THESE ARE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS THAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY BUILD ON THIS

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PARTICULAR LOT THAT IS IN QUESTION RIGHT NOW, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY. AND WE'RE ONLY IMPACTING ONE TREE, WHICH IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, IT'S 5112. THAT'S THE TAG ON THAT TREE, CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO. OKAY. IN YOUR RENDERINGS HERE, THERE'S A CIRCLE IN EACH OF THESE RENDERINGS. IS THAT EQUIVALENT TO THE ROOT ZONE FOR THAT TREE? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S CIRCLED IN THE WAY THAT IT IS. SO THE THE CENTER OF THE. I GUESS THE, THE DIAMETER OF THE TREE ITSELF IS REPRESENTED BY THE SMALL CIRCLE. AND THIS, THIS COULD BE REPRESENTED BY THE CANOPY. BUT HALF OF THAT WOULD BE THE CRITICAL ROOT ZONE. OKAY. SO THE LARGER CIRCLE. HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO CONVEY HERE. IT'S THE CANOPY.

SO IF YOU TAKE THE SMALLER CIRCLE AND MEASURE IT OUT, I THINK IT'S 33 INCH LIVE OAK.

THAT THAT WOULD BE, I THINK THE CANOPY SIZE. AND THEN IF YOU TOOK HALF OF THAT DIAMETER, THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THE BUILDING PAD. OKAY. SURE. SO IT'S IT'S IN THE HANDOUT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HANDOUT ITSELF, IT'S THE SAME ON EVERY RENDERING. THAT IS WHERE THE THE ACTUAL TREE IS. THE LARGE CIRCLE WOULD BE THE CANOPY THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED. BUT WHERE THAT IS, IS UNDERNEATH THE FOUNDATION ITSELF ON EACH OF THOSE. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PLACE FIVE. DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE? NO, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTOOD EXACTLY WHAT WAS REPRESENTED HERE. THANK YOU. OKAY. IS IS THERE A REASON THIS WASN'T PROVIDED BEFOREHAND? SO WE HAD TIME TO. NO, NO, NO. OKAY. JUST AND I WILL SAY, I KNOW YOU ALLUDED TO IT'S THE SAME AS THE LAST, BUT IT, IT IS NOT THE SAME IN MY OPINION, ONLY BECAUSE THE LAST ONE THEY DID TRY TO SAVE THE TREE. YEAH. AND YOU'RE SAYING Y'ALL WON'T YOU'RE NOT EVEN INTERESTED IN DOING THAT AT THIS POINT. IT'S IN THE WAY. AND WE NEED TO JUST GET RID OF IT AHEAD OF TIME. RIGHT? NOT NECESSARILY. I THINK WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WITH THE HOME CONSTRUCTION, THERE'S GOING TO BE DAMAGE. AND YOU KNOW, I'M SURE WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN. YOU KNOW, IF WE DO NEED TO SAVE IT, BUT IT MAY END UP BACK HERE. THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO COMMUNICATE. GOTCHA. IT WILL BE BACK HERE AS A BUILDING PERMIT TO REMOVE THIS TREE AT THE END OF THE DAY. SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT WOULDN'T BE SAVED, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THIS ACTION ITEM. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY. I WILL SECOND IT SO IT CAN MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY IN A SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR OF A DENIAL, RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED TO DENIAL. OKAY, SO WE NEED ANOTHER MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I NEED A SECOND. I'LL SECOND IT SO WE CAN MOVE IT ALONG. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS ONE, RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, I MEAN, IF

[26. Discuss and consider action on the purchase of two (2) replacement fire engines and a new ladder truck for the Leander Fire Department, utilizing HGAC Buy Contract FS12-23 from Siddons-Martin Emergency Group, LLC in the amount of $4,232,024.00; and authorize the City Manager to execute any and all necessary documents.]

ITEM 26 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE PURCHASE OF TWO REPLACEMENT FIRE ENGINES AND A NEW LADDER TRUCK FOR LEANDER DEPARTMENT. FIRE DEPARTMENT UTILIZING HGAC BY CONTRACT FS12-23 FROM SIMMONS MARTIN EMERGENCY GROUP LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,232,024 AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. FIRE CHIEF BILLY, HOW ARE YOU DOING? WELL, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO THIS ITEM IS THE PURCHASE OF TWO ENGINES THAT ARE REPLACEMENT ENGINES FOR US. AND THEN ONE NEW LADDER TRUCK.

SO THE REPLACEMENT ENGINES WE HAVE A REPLACEMENT PLAN. THOSE ENGINES RUNNING TEN YEARS FRONT LINE. AND THEN THEY'RE MOVED TO A RESERVE STATUS FOR FIVE YEARS FOR A TOTAL OF 15 YEAR SERVICE LIFE. AND THE TWO ENGINES ARE ACTUALLY CURRENTLY IN SERVICE. AND THEY'RE PART OF A REGULAR REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE DUE TO THE TIME FRAME OF THESE, TAKING 46 TO 51 MONTHS TO BUILD, WE'RE

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ORDERING ONE THAT'S ON THE 151 MONTHS. YEAH, THEY JUST KEEP GETTING LONGER. THE ONE OF THE ENGINES IS ON THIS UPCOMING OR THIS FISCAL YEAR'S REPLACEMENT SCHEDULED. AND THEN WE'RE PICKING ONE MORE FROM ONE OF THE FUTURE YEARS TO JUST TRY TO GET CAUGHT UP. THE IDEA BEING THAT OVER A FEW YEARS, WE'LL GET TO THE POINT THAT WE'RE ORDERING THEM EARLY ENOUGH THAT THEY ARRIVE IN TIME FOR REPLACEMENT ON THE LADDER TRUCK. THAT WOULD BE A NEW ADDITION TO OUR FLEET. SO WE DO NEED TWO LADDER TRUCKS THAT ARE STAFFED IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE LADDER TRUCK THAT'S STAFFED, AND THEN WE HAVE THE QUINT THAT IS A RESERVE UNIT THAT'S OVER 20 YEARS OLD. IT NEEDS TO GO AWAY. IT'S TRIED SEVERAL TIMES, BUT WE KEEP HOLDING ON TO IT. BUT THIS WOULD BE IN ADDITION THEN TO THE CURRENT FLEET WE HAVE AND THE REPLACEMENT OF IT. WE'VE GOT IT TIED TO STATION SIX WITH THE NEW STATION BEING OPENED, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD BE AT. THE LANDSCAPE COULD SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE IN IN FIVE YEARS, AND SO WE'LL PLACE IT WHEREVER IT NEEDS. CHANCES ARE IT WOULD NOT BE AT STATION SIX'S LOCATION, BUT WE WOULD TAKE ONE OF THE EXISTING ENGINES, MOVE IT OVER THERE AND RUN THAT ONE IN THE OTHER LOCATION. SO THAT'S THE ITEMS THERE. AND I HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. PLACE ONE. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. SO WHEN YOU BUY IT TODAY YOU GET IT AT TODAY'S PRICE. YOU DON'T GET IT TO FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. PRICE. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. SO NOW THERE IS WHENEVER THEY NOW THEY'LL TAKE FOUR YEARS TO GET TO THE DESIGN PART, RIGHT? SO IT STILL TAKES THEM ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO ACTUALLY BUILD IT. BUT IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES THAT ARE MADE AT THAT TIME FROM THE SPECS, WHICH THERE LIKELY WOULD BE SOME WITH THE FOUR YEAR WAIT TIME IN BETWEEN THERE, THEN THOSE CHANGES WOULD BE AT THE THEN PRESENT PRICE. OKAY, PLACE THREE AND ALSO IN TERMS OF PRICE, WE RECEIVED A DISCOUNT FOR LEVERAGING GETTING THIS SECOND TRUCK SECONDARY TRUCK CORRECT. YEAH. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF DISCOUNTS THAT WE'RE RECEIVING IN ALL. IT'S ABOUT 13% OVER THE TOTAL COST OF THE ENTIRE PURCHASE ORDER. SO ONE OF THOSE DISCOUNTS IS FOR A MULTI UNIT. SO BUYING MORE THAN ONE UNIT AT ONE TIME. ANOTHER ONE IS FOR PAYING FOR ALL OF IT UP FRONT INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL DELIVERY. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS FOR PLACING THE ORDER BEFORE THE END OF THIS MONTH. SO THEY'VE ALREADY TOLD US WHAT THE PRICE IS GOING TO GO UP TO NEXT MONTH. WONDERFUL TO KNOW. THANK YOU. PLEASE, FOR.

AND SO AS THIS ONE COMES ON, THE ONE THAT FOR THIS YEAR AND THEN THIS ONE, HOW HOW MANY MORE ARE WE STILL KIND OF BEHIND WITH THAT FOUR YEAR WAIT TIME? YEAH, BASICALLY EVERY YEAR KIND OF PUTTING IN FOR ONE UNTIL. RIGHT. YEAH. OUR PLAN IS RIGHT NOW IS TO, TO ORDER WHAT'S IN THE REPLACEMENT PLAN AND ONE ADDITIONAL EACH YEAR. AND SO ACTUALLY NEXT YEAR FOR FY 18 OR 28, I DON'T BELIEVE WE THAT'S A FLASH IN THE PAST. I DON'T BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY HAVE ANY ENGINES THAT ARE ON THE REPLACEMENT FOR THAT YEAR. SO THIS HELPS KIND OF SPREAD THAT OUT. AND SO NEXT YEAR WE WOULD THEN ADD AN ADDITIONAL ONE. AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT 19, SEE WHAT'S LEFT ON IT AND ADD AN ADDITIONAL ONE. SO IT'LL TAKE US A FEW YEARS TO GET THERE.

AWESOME. THANK YOU. PLACE FIVE I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT 2118 AND 2119 IN THIS IN THIS EQUATION, RIGHT? I HOPE NOT APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY. THANK YOU PLEASE. SIX THE MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. OH GO AHEAD. MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 27 DISCUSSING

[27. Discuss and consider action on casting a vote for the Texas Municipal League (TML) Region 10 Director Election.]

CONSIDER ACTION CASTING A VOTE FOR THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE. TAMIL REGION. TOWN DIRECTOR ELECTIONS. CITY MANAGER TODD BARTON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO ALL RIGHT, TO BE CLEAR, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FEES, TREES, BEES AND FREEZE BECAUSE WE LOCKED IN THE PRICE ON THE TRUCKS NOMINEES. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. NOW, NOMINEES, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE OVER THERE WORKING. NOT COMING. LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT. THANK YOU. JUST JUST JUST HAPPEN. I CAN'T HELP IT. SO IT IT'S TIME TO CONSIDER AN APPOINTMENT TO OUR A DISTRICT POSITION FOR REGION TEN OF TML SO TML HAS 15 REGIONS THAT COVER THE STATE OF TEXAS. EACH REGION HAS A DISTRICT WHICH REALLY IS A MEMBER OF THE OVERALL BOARD FOR TML. EACH DISTRICT HAS A REPRESENTATIVE THAT IS THERE TO HELP PROVIDE INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATION AND COORDINATION AMONGST THEIR REGION. SO WE ARE IN REGION TEN. REGION TEN INCLUDES MASON, LLANO, SAN SABA, LAMPASAS, BURNET, WILLIAMSON, TRAVIS, MILAM, HAYS, CALDWELL, BASTROP, LEE, FAYETTE,

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WASHINGTON AND BURLESON COUNTIES. SO THE WAY THE ELECTION PROCESS WORKS IS THE EVEN NUMBERED DISTRICTS ELECT THEIR REPRESENTATIVES ON EVEN YEARS. THE ODD NUMBERED DISTRICTS MAKE THEIR SELECTIONS ON ODD NUMBERED YEARS. THESE ARE TWO YEAR TERMS THAT BASICALLY WILL RUN FROM THE END OF THE EXISTING T ML SESSION WITHIN THE YEAR OF THE ELECTION, AND IT RUNS THROUGH THE SECOND OR THE TWO YEARS LATER, TERMINATION OF THE T ML CONFERENCE MOVING FORWARD. SO FOR US, WE HAVE A TERM IN DISTRICT TEN THAT WOULD BEGIN ON NOVEMBER 13TH OF 2026, AND IT WOULD RUN AFTER THE TML ANNUAL CONFERENCE ENDS ON NOVEMBER 3RD, 2028. OUR DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVES MUST BE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY WITHIN THE DISTRICT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE IS A TERM LIMIT SO THEY CAN. THEY CAN SERVE TWO TWO FULL TWO YEAR TERMS. IT'S A LOT OF TWOS. SO WE DO HAVE TWO CANDIDATES FOR OUR REGION TEN DIRECTOR. NOW WE'LL SAY THAT THE EACH ENTITY IS ENTITLED TO ONE VOTE PER ENTITY. SO YOU WOULD VOTE ON ONE OF THESE TWO NOMINEES. NOMINEES ARE COLLECTED THROUGH THIS YEAR. THE DEADLINE FOR ANY NOMINEES WAS AUGUST THE 12TH. SO THIS IS THE QUALIFIED APPLICANTS FOR NOMINEES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, OR CANDIDATES, I SHOULD SAY, FOR CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. THE INCUMBENT IS ON THE BALLOT. JIMMY JENKINS, WHO IS A COUNCIL MEMBER IN SMITHVILLE. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR OWN NICOLE THOMPSON, MAYOR, CITY OF LEANDER. SO WE DO HAVE BALLOTS IN YOUR PACKET. SO WE TURN IT BACK TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY DELIBERATION AND IF YOU ARE READY TO CAST BALLOTS. SINCE I'M ON THE BALLOT, WHAT I WILL SAY, BECAUSE I WAS ASKED ABOUT IT EARLIER TODAY, IS WHY I'M RUNNING FOR THIS PARTICULAR SEAT. AND LEANDER AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY. I BELIEVE WE HAVE GROWN SO FAST AND WE NEED REPRESENTATION AND WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH T ML, AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD THAT IN A WHILE. BUT ALSO MY PRIORITY, IF ELECTED, WOULD REALLY BE TO FOCUS ON BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR MAKING SURE WE GET FUNDING FOR WATER AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR REGION, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE WE KEEP LOCAL CONTROL OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR CITIES. AND THAT'S BEEN A BIG PART OF WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE STATE, IS A TALK AND DISCUSSION ABOUT LOCAL CONTROL AND REMOVING IT IN SOME INSTANCES. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT OUR CITIES AND WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESSES AND OUR CITIES, AND THAT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS COMING FROM THE STATE LEVEL, BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WE KNOW BEST WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE WE'RE CLOSER TO THE CITIES AND THE COMMUNITIES WE SERVE. SO THOSE WOULD BE MY TWO PRIORITIES, AND I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. SO YOU WANT US TO FILL THESE OUT AND PASS THEM DOWN. OKAY. SO IF Y'ALL FILL IT OUT, FOLD IT UP, PASS IT DOWN, AND THEN SHE'LL LET US KNOW.

THANK YOU, MA'AM, AND THANK YOU. IT'S IT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SUBMIT OUR BALLOT FOR NICOLE THOMPSON. I WILL. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU GUYS.

[28. Discuss and consider action on the Resolution supporting the Upper Brushy Creek Water Control Improvement District (WCID) to restore Lakewood Park to normal pool lake level of 876.2 feet above mean sea level and formally request the remaining documents that city staff requested from WCID on June 18, 2026.]

THE FUN ONE. OKAY. ITEM 28 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE UPPER BRUSHY CREEK WATER CONTROL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. WCID TO RESTORE LAKEWOOD TO NORMAL POOL LAKE ELEVATION OF EIGHT 76.2FT ABOVE MEAN SEA LEVEL AND FORMALLY REQUEST THE REMAINING DOCUMENTS THE CITY STAFF REQUESTED FROM WCID ON JUNE 18TH, 2026, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER EDWIN EDWIN RAVEL. SORRY, I'M GETTING TONGUE TIED TONIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO THIS ITEM IS REALLY A TWO PART ITEM. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN INTERACTING WITH THE UPPER BRUSHY CREEK WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR SINCE SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR AND TAKING THE NUMBER OF ACTIONS AS A CITY TO MAKE

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SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING INFORMATION FROM THEM THAT HELPS US BETTER UNDERSTAND THE DECISION THAT THEY MADE OVER 6 TO 9 MONTHS AGO, BASICALLY, TO LOWER THE NORMAL POOL LEVEL OF, OF THE LAKE. AND SO. WITH THIS ACTION WOULD DO WOULD BE TO ALLOW US TO FORMALLY SUBMIT A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST TO THEM FROM, FROM THE COUNCIL, MAKING SURE THAT WE GET THE INFORMATION THAT STAFF HAS ALREADY ASKED FOR. WE, WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME INFORMATION, BUT NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION OR NOT ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE REQUESTED. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE PART. AND THEN ALSO THIS ACTION WOULD ALSO AUTHORIZE FOR STAFF TO SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR THE LAKE LEVEL TO BE RESTORED. AS YOU KNOW, THEY LOWERED THE LAKE LEVEL BY FOUR FEET. THIS WILL ALLOW THAT LAKE. THIS WOULD ALLOW A REQUEST TO BE SUBMITTED FROM STAFF DIRECTLY TO WCID, ASKING FOR THAT LAKE LEVEL TO BE RESTORED, AND THEIR SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT REQUEST ALSO INVOLVES ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT OWN PROPERTY THAT UNDERLIE THE LAKE.

AT LAKEWOOD PARK, ALL THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE TO GIVE UNANIMOUS CONSENT. SO AS A PART OF OUR REQUEST, WE WOULD NEED TO WORK WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THEIR CONSENT. THAT WOULD BE THEN SUBMITTED TO WCID. AND AT THAT POINT, THEY WOULD DELIBERATE AND MAKE A DECISION. IT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A GIVEN THAT THEY WOULD AUTOMATICALLY RESTORE THE LAKE LEVEL, BUT AT LEAST THAT PUTS THE REQUEST IN FRONT OF THEM FORMALLY FROM THE CITY. AND SO WE'RE SEEKING THOSE TWO THINGS AS A PART OF THIS. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS OR MORE INFORMATION THAT I CAN PROVIDE, JUST LET ME KNOW AND I CAN DO THAT. THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THIS. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A BIG UNDERTAKING AND PRETTY TIME CONSUMING TO BE GOING BACK AND FORTH TRYING TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE REQUESTED, BUT ALSO TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO TO MAKE SURE WE WE STAND FIRM ON THIS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET IT RESOLVED. WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD SINCE NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR WHEN WE FIRST MET, HAD A PUBLIC MEETING ABOUT THIS. SO IT'S GOOD THAT WE'RE HERE AT THIS POINT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A RESOLUTION TO IT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE COMMENTS? I JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF AGAIN FOR YOUR EFFORTS OVER THE LAST YEAR ON THIS CRITICAL ISSUE. I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL THE FOLKS THAT HAVE COME OUT AND ALSO WRITTEN US OVER THE PAST YEAR.

WE KNOW THIS IS A CRITICAL ISSUE FOR THE FOLKS OF LEANDER. IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.

IT'S AN ECONOMIC ISSUE FOR OUR CITY. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE BEEN ENGAGING WITH WE SIT AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE ANSWERS. AND I THINK THIS IS THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP IN THE PROCESS. SO AGAIN, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS AND LOOK FORWARD TO VOTING FOR THIS ECHO. COUNCILMAN SHANE'S SENTIMENTS AND YOURS. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS AS WELL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STAFF, CITY MANAGER, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR REALLY BEING DILIGENT IN GETTING THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR US, GOING THROUGH 4000 ARTICLES OF DOCUMENTS UPON REQUEST TO REALLY JUSTIFY OUR DECISIONS. AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD AGREE THAT WE IMPRESS UPON WCID TO REALLY JUST CORRECT THE ACTIONS THAT THEY'VE TAKEN AND MAKE THE JUSTIFIABLE DECISION TO RETURN OUR LAKE LEVELS. AND SO HOPEFULLY, THEY ARE GOOD NEIGHBORS IN THIS CONVERSATION. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS MOVING FORWARD.

PLEASE, FOR I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN FAR TOO PATIENT FOR FAR TOO LONG, AND I'M EXCITED TO START FORMALLY MOVING FORWARD WITH ACTION SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS ISSUE FINALLY RESOLVED.

PLEASE. FIVE I JUST WANT SOME DIRECTION ON HOW TO MOTION THIS. THERE IS A RESOLUTION AS WELL AS SOME ACTION ITEMS, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STRUCTURE IT CORRECTLY. SO IF WE COULD GET SOME GUIDANCE ON THAT BEFORE WE ACTUALLY PUT THE MOTION ON THE RECORD, I'D APPRECIATE THAT, SIX OKAY. ANYTHING? OKAY. YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IN MAKING THE MOTION, WE ARE APPROVING THE RESOLUTION. CORRECT. WE HAVE A COPY OF A RESOLUTION HERE. WE ARE APPROVING THE CITY'S POSITION ON THE REQUEST FOR THE RESTORATION OF THE LAKE LEVELS. YES. AND IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IN MAKING THE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST AND THE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST? OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE COUNCILMAN NARDINI. I BELIEVE THAT THE APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION APPROVES ALL ITEMS. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ON THAT BECAUSE YOU AT THE BEGINNING, YOU STATED THERE WAS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ACTIONS HERE. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT ON THE RECORD CORRECTLY. YES. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. I'LL SECOND WHOEVER YOU

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GOT. YEAH. SO WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND BY PRO TEM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. MOTION

[29. Discuss and provide direction regarding solid waste commercial collection hours and requirements.]

CARRIES. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 29. DISCUSS AND PROVIDE DIRECTION REGARDING SOLID WASTE COMMERCIAL COLLECTION HOURS AND REQUIREMENTS. ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER KENT. SERIOUSLY. THANK YOU MAYOR. YES, SIR. SO I SAVE TRASH TALKING TO THE END SO Y'ALL CAN TRASH TALK. I MEAN, A ROLL HOLE MEETING. WOW. LIFT UP SPIRITS TODAY. OKAY, SO JUST SOME CONTEXT ABOUT THIS AGENDA ITEM. A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO, WE HAD A RESIDENT WHO SPOKE TO COUNCIL REQUESTING TO CONSIDER ESTABLISHING DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL COLLECTION HOURS FOR SOLID WASTE, SPECIFICALLY AROUND NOISE CONCERNS AT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT NEXT TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND ESTABLISH AREAS. ALREADY, THERE WAS ALSO MENTION OF SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. AND SO GET GET A LITTLE BIT INTO THAT HERE IN A BIT.

CURRENTLY, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC DESIGNATED SECTION IN OUR CODE RELATED TO SOLID WASTE. THERE ARE OTHER CITIES AROUND US LIKE CEDAR PARK, GEORGETOWN, ROUND ROCK THAT ACTUALLY DO HAVE A SPECIFIC SOLID WASTE SECTION THAT STIPULATES THOSE THINGS.

AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE KIND OF EXPLORE, YOU KNOW, SHAPING OUR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING IN THE FUTURE. THE CITY DOES HAVE DEFINITIONS FOR NIGHTS IN OUR NUISANCE CODE. AND SO NIGHT IS DEFINED FROM 10:01 P.M. TO 6:59 A.M.

ADDITIONALLY, IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WE DO STATE IN THE CODE THAT WE DON'T ALLOW, WE DON'T PERMIT DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES WITHIN 20FT OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SO THERE'S THIS THERE'S DIFFERENT KIND OF REQUIREMENTS SPREAD OUT IN THE CODE. CURRENTLY, THE CITY HAS A CONTRACT WITH AL CLAWSON DISPOSAL INC A C, D I FOR SOLID WASTE, AND THAT THE CONTRACT ONLY INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL COLLECTION HOURS FROM 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M. HOWEVER, THERE ARE NO REQUIREMENTS FOR COMMERCIAL COLLECTION HOURS PER THE CONTRACT. THE CONTRACTOR MAY COLLECT COMMERCIAL COLLECTION AT ANY TIME. NOW. THAT CONTRACT WAS ORIGINALLY. OH, SORRY. OH, SORRY. NOW THAT CONTRACT WAS. THE ORIGINAL TERMS FOR THAT CONTRACT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2020, AND THAT WAS ALSO BASED ON SOME OTHER TERMS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN CARRIED OVER WITH THAT CONTRACT. EARLIER THIS YEAR. THE CONTRACT WAS SET TO EXPIRE AT THE END OF JANUARY, AND SO STAFF WAS WORKING TO BRING BACK IN INTERIM PLAN AS WE LOOK TO EXPLORE OUR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING IN THE FUTURE. AND SO STAFF PRESENTED A FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT JUST FOR A THREE YEAR EXTENSION. SO WE COULD REALLY WORK ON EVALUATING ALL THE DIFFERENT NEEDS IN THE CITY WITH NOT JUST RESIDENTIAL BUT COMMERCIAL. YOU KNOW, AS WITH ALL THE RECENT RETREATS AND WORKSHOPS WE'VE BEEN DOING, OUR RESIDENTIAL IS REALLY KIND OF LEVELING OUT IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE'RE SEEING A HUGE RISE IN THAT COMMERCIAL. AND THAT IS IS VARYING FROM SMALL BUSINESSES TO EVEN LARGE BIG BOX RETAILERS THAT ARE COMING HERE SOON. SO THERE'S DIFFERENT NEEDS THAT ARE COMING ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. AND SO THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THAT THREE YEAR EXTENSION, IS TO ALLOW US TIME TO TO DO THAT WORK AND ALSO PUT TOGETHER A RESIDENTIAL SURVEY AND ALSO A COMMERCIAL SURVEY OUT JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING, WHICH WE HOPE TO BRING BACK TO YOU ALL HERE TO KIND OF VET THE QUESTIONS FOR. SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS AGENDA ITEM REALLY IS TRYING TO SEEK FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL ON, YOU KNOW, DIRECTION ON WORKING WITH CLAWSON ON POTENTIAL INTERIM SOLUTIONS. IN THE MEANTIME, WHILE WE KIND OF LOOK TO EXPLORE THINGS AND ANY OTHER DIRECTION THAT YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THE COMMERCIAL COLLECTION NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. AND I HAVE TANYA CLAWSON HERE WITH CLAWSON, AND I BELIEVE SHE HAS A SMALL PRESENTATION TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE AREAS. OH YEAH. SHE DOESN'T. OH, OKAY. YEAH. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THE REASON YOU NEED COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON THIS IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT EXPLICITLY WRITTEN IN THE CURRENT CONTRACT FOR US TO DISCUSS, I GUESS COMMERCIAL, ALL THESE COMMERCIAL THINGS.

GOT IT. THANK YOU. BEFORE YOU GO, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON. CAN WE GO DOWN PLACE ONE THIS IS A TYPO. IT'S A TYPO, I THINK. SO I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT MIGHT BE WORTH CITY OF CEDAR PARK YOU HAVE THEY CAN PICK UP TRASH BETWEEN 6 P.M. AND 7 A.M. IT SAYS CEDAR PARK REQUIRES THE COLLECTION. SIX EIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. OH, YEAH. YEAH. SORRY, THAT WAS A TYPO. THANK YOU FOR CATCHING IT. OKAY. NO PROBLEM. NO PROBLEM AT ALL. JUST A FEW LOGISTICAL QUESTIONS.

SO IF WE WERE TO MAKE CHANGES, COULD WE AMEND THE CURRENT CONTRACT? AND THAT WOULD BE THE

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MOTION WE WOULD TAKE IF WE WERE TO TAKE STEPS TOWARDS AMENDING IT. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT AS AS DOING A SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT. I KNOW WE'RE EXPLORING SOME OTHER THINGS WITH CLAWSON AS WELL. A WHILE BACK, WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT KIND OF THINGS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO IMPLEMENT IN THE INTERIM. AND SO THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PUT ON THE TABLE, BECAUSE I BELIEVE CLAWSON TWO HAS SOME IDEAS, EVEN REGARDING THE CURRENT OPERATIONS WITHIN THE CITY. SO HOW DO WE IMPROVE THAT OVERALL? SO SURE. AND TONIGHT WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION. WE'RE JUST I KNOW WE'RE NOT I KNOW WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION. IT WAS A QUESTION ON MY END ABOUT LIKE, IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THAT IN THE FUTURE. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. THANKS. DO YOU HAVE GO AHEAD ON THE ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. AND ONE OF THE THING MISS GOING TO WALK US THROUGH. THERE ARE CERTAIN COMPLEXITIES IN IN CONSIDERATIONS THAT GO INTO EFFECT TO TO KIND OF TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OF THIS. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE REALLY KIND OF LOOKING FOR IS WORKING IN DIRECTION TO AL CLAWSON ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE. AND THEN WE'LL WORK WITH THEM TO LOOK AT SERVICE LEVEL ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE CAN BRING BACK. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN ANSWER THAT'S ANSWERED TONIGHT, BUT I THINK MR. YOU WROTE ME AND ALSO THE REST OF COUNCIL, AND I KNOW HE CORRESPONDED WITH ME AND COUNCILWOMAN SPONSELLER AND JUST WANT TO LEARN MORE INFORMATION. I KNOW WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO ON THIS, BUT IT WOULD BE IF AC CLAWSON IS OPEN TO MODIFYING THEIR COMMERCIAL HOURS OF COLLECTION. CAN I ADD TO THAT? SO WHEN THE PRESIDENT CAME AND SPOKE THAT NIGHT, I DID REACH DIRECTLY BACK OUT TO CLAWSON, AND THEY ACTUALLY MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT AREA. AND IF TONY, IF IT'LL CHAT ON THAT.

BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO MODIFY THE AREAS, I BELIEVE, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY TO KIND OF IN THE MID MORNING DAY TO AVOID THAT NOISE CONCERNS IN THE MORNING. AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE STILL EVALUATING SATURDAY JUST BECAUSE OF THE WHEN THE LANDFILL CLOSES. SO I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK YOU TO TALK ABOUT THE ADJUSTMENTS MADE TO THE RECENT ONE THAT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE BASED. WHEN WE FIRST GOT COMMUNICATION, THE DESCRIPTION PROVIDED TO US WAS RONALD REAGAN. THAT'S A. RONALD REAGAN IS. DIDN'T NARROW IT DOWN FOR THE DETAILS I WAS LOOKING FOR. AS TIME WENT ON, WE WERE GRANTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BUT HAVE BEEN MAKING CHANGES ALONG THE RONALD REAGAN CORRIDOR. I KNOW EARLIER TODAY, AS I WAS DROPPING MORE DATA ONTO MY MAPS THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU, YOU'LL SEE ON THOSE MAPS YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE PURPLE SQUARE. THOSE ARE ALL OF YOUR COMMERCIAL DUMPSTERS THAT ARE WITHIN 300FT OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ABOUT 123 ACCOUNTS, BUT MORE THAN 300 DUMPSTERS REPRESENT THOSE ACCOUNTS. SO THAT'S OUR FOCAL POINT RIGHT NOW. WHAT CAN WE DO? AND THE COMPLAINTS ARE COMING. LOOKS LIKE FROM A, YOU KNOW, ONE CONCENTRATED AREA. I DID SEND AN EMAIL TO MY TEAM THIS AFTERNOON WHEN I IDENTIFIED SOME MORE AREAS AND ASKED THEM IF THEY COULD GET THAT IN TIME. WE'LL LOOK AT MAKING AN ADDITIONAL CHANGE, AND HOPEFULLY THAT CAPTURES WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. IT'S BEEN ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. AND THEN, AS WE'VE ALSO SELF-IDENTIFIED, THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? NO. OKAY. PLEASE, SIR, I JUST I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. SO SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE DOCUMENT HERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANYBODY. I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT NOBODY IS COLLECTING EARLY IN THE MORNINGS. AND IT LOOKS LIKE, I MEAN, AUSTIN 6 A.M. TO 5:30 P.M. I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY TIGHT WINDOW. AND IN GEORGETOWN'S AT 7 A.M. AND THEN I GUESS WE HAVE CEDAR PARK AT 6 A.M. TO SEVEN AND EVERYTHING.

AND, AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE, I MEAN, THE INFORMATION IS ON HERE, WHETHER THEY'RE MAKING A DISTINCTION BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND COMMERCIAL AND ALL THAT. AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO, TO KIND OF LOOK AT BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE AMOUNT OF SCHOOL TRAFFIC WE HAVE AROUND HERE, WITH THE AMOUNT OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET SOME OF THAT STUFF DONE IN AND OUT BEFORE THAT HAPPENS, IT MAKES IT EASIER ON EVERYBODY BECAUSE THESE ARE THESE ARE GIGANTIC TRUCKS. THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE TRUCKS AND ALL THAT. AND IF THEY CAN GO IN AND PICK UP THE TRASH IN SOME OF THESE SPOTS THAT ARE THAT ARE EASY TO GET TO BECAUSE NOBODY'S IN THE PARKING LOT AT THAT TIME IN THE MORNING, NOBODY'S OUT THERE AND ALL THAT. AND SO I THINK IT'D BE INTERESTING TO KIND OF, IF WE MAYBE FURTHER THE STUDY A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF LOOK A LITTLE FURTHER OUT AND SEE HOW I KNOW YOU'VE YOU'VE A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES, YOU'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOREVER, BUT I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD CONTRACTOR HERE THAT'S WILLING TO WORK WITH US, AND THEY'RE BEING PROACTIVE ABOUT IT. AND SO IF WE SEE THERE'S SOME AREAS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT MAKES SENSE THAT JUST TO BRING IT UP AND AS FAR AS ADJUSTING THE CONTRACT, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'LL SELF-ADJUST. SO ANYWAYS, THAT'S

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ALL I HAVE TO SAY, PLEASE. THREE FIRST, I WANTED TO JUST SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH TO AC CLAWSON FOR A DRAWING MAKING ATTENDING TO THE RESIDENTS THAT HAD THE ISSUE FAIRLY IMMEDIATELY, EVEN THOUGH THIS HAD NOT BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL PRIOR TO. SO REALLY JUST APPRECIATE YOU BEING A GOOD PARTNER AND AND WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT. I HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. SO I KNOW THAT YOU SUGGESTED THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A COMMUNITY SURVEY WHERE WE CAN COLLECT A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON, YOU KNOW, SOME FUTURE IMPACTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO WHEN THAT SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO HAPPEN AND WHEN WE COULD EXPECT THAT INFORMATION? YEAH.

SO I THINK OUR PLAN IS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER WITH A WORKSHOP REGARDING SOLID WASTE AND TALK ABOUT THE SURVEY AND PIECES WITH THE RESIDENTIAL ASPECT AND ALSO THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT. SO IT IS THEY'RE BOTH REALLY KIND OF DIFFERENT KIND OF SERVICES. AND SO IT'S WITH THAT, TRYING TO TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL PROCESS. SO GOING THROUGH THE SURVEY. SO THE IDEA WOULD BE WE CAN GET THOSE QUESTIONS VETTED PROBABLY IN NOVEMBER, MAYBE FINALIZED IN DECEMBER. AND I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO PUSH OUT THAT SURVEY IN JANUARY AFTER THE HOLIDAYS WHEN PEOPLE HAVE COME BACK AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE KIND OF FRESH THROUGH AND EVERYBODY'S GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF TRASH FROM ALL THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S REALLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST DAYS. SO I THINK IT'LL BE FRESH IN EVERYBODY'S MIND, ESPECIALLY ALL THE STORES.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY PLAN. AND I, YOU KNOW, I THINK OUR LAST COMMUNITY WIDE SURVEY, WE ACTUALLY SENT IT OUT LONGER. IT'S USUALLY AROUND A MONTH. AND SO WE ACTUALLY SENT OUT THREE MONTHS, WHICH BOTH SURVEYS WE CONDUCTED WITH THE BRANDING AND COMMUNITY. WE HAD OVER 1000 RESPONSES. AND SO BUT THAT WAS JUST TO, YOU KNOW, ALL THE HOUSE RESIDENTIAL HOUSEHOLDS. SO FOR THIS ONE, I SUSPECT WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK, ESPECIALLY FROM THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. I DO GET QUITE A BIT OF CALLS FROM DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT SERVICES THERE. SO I THINK A LOT OF THEM ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO PROVIDING THEIR FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF THEIR NEEDS. SO I WOULD IMAGINE WE ROLL OUT IT IN EARLY MID JANUARY AND THEN HAVE RESULTS TO YOU ALL PROBABLY IN MAYBE MARCH, APRIL AT THE LATEST. WE DO TENTATIVELY HAVE IT ON A WORKSHOP IN NOVEMBER. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. WONDERFUL. AS I THINK YOU KNOW, MY ONLY FEEDBACK IS THAT GETTING MORE INFORMATION FROM WHAT IS ACTUALLY IMPACTING RESIDENTS OR WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, FUTURE PLANNING IS, IS REALLY CRITICAL IN US MAKING A DECISION. SO THANK YOU, PLEASE, FOR SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL DUMPSTERS, THOUGH. A C, D I IS THE LARGEST, BUT WE HAVE OTHER COMPANIES THAT PAY FRANCHISE FEES FOR COMMERCIAL DUMPSTERS. YEAH. THERE'S, THEY, WE HAVE A TEMPORARY FRANCHISE WHERE A BUSINESS CAN GO AND GET THAT PERMIT APPLICATION TO HAVE A TEMPORARY DUMPSTER ON THEIR SITE FOR SPECIFIC SERVICES. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. AND SO WOULD THIS, THIS WOULD ONLY AFFECT THE COMMERCIAL DUMPSTER. THEIR PARTICULAR CONTRACT, THE A C, D I PARTICULAR CONTRACT, CORRECT? YES. AND THE PARTICULAR AREAS THIS LIKE THE JULIA LANE. THAT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE. AARON'S JULIA LANE AND AND A CDI HAS WORKED WITH US PREVIOUSLY. RIGHT. TO KIND OF MITIGATE ANY OF THOSE CUSTOMER ISSUES. YES. OKAY. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE PRETTY RESPONSIVE THAT REALLY THAT NIGHT, I GOT A QUICK RESPONSE AFTER WE HEARD FROM THAT RESIDENT AND STILL EVEN LOOKING AT MORE SOLUTIONS TO HOW TO FIX SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO EVEN PROVIDE BACK TO COUNCIL AT THE SOLID WASTE WORKSHOP IS WORKING WITH A C, D, I AND KIND OF MAPPING IT OUT ON A MAP AND REALLY SHOWING Y'ALL, HEY, THESE ARE THE LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAVE X AMOUNT OF BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE OF THAT ACTUAL COMMERCIAL AREA AND HERE ARE THE HOMES ASSOCIATED WITH IT. AND SO I THINK THOSE ARE KIND OF VISUALS THAT WILL HELP Y'ALL REALLY SEE, OKAY, THESE ARE THE IMPACTED AREAS. ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND TOO, IS THAT A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES HAVE SERVICES MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK, SOMETIMES SIX TIMES A WEEK. AND SO I THINK IT'S ALSO THE LEVEL AND THE TYPE OF BUSINESS AND BASED ON THEIR NEEDS FOR THAT. AND THERE'S ALSO THE SCHOOL COLLECTIONS AS WELL. SO TRYING TO AVOID, I BELIEVE THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC SCHOOL HOURS EARLY IN THE MORNING, WHICH IS WHY THEY COME EARLIER IN THE DAY BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS. SO REALLY WANT TO PUT THAT IN A MAP FOR Y'ALL AND WORK WITH CLAWSON ON THAT. AND REALLY HAVE YOU ALL SEE EVERYTHING KIND OF VISUALLY. I THINK IT HELPED REALLY STEER THE CONVERSATION. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE FIVE DAYS OF THIS SIX DAY A WEEK COLLECTIONS, DO MOST CITIES HAVE SIX DAY A WEEK COLLECTIONS? THAT'S PROBABLY MORE INFORMATION WE'D HAVE TO DIG INTO. COMMERCIAL FRANCHISES VARY FROM CITY TO CITY. SOME

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WILL PROVIDE ALL THAT COMMERCIAL FRANCHISE, AND SOME WILL JUST SAY, Y'ALL HANDLE IT ON YOUR OWN. THE BUSINESSES WILL DECIDE. AND I'VE BEEN IN CITIES WHERE THEY'VE HAD BOTH, AND EVEN THERE, IT'S DIFFICULT TO REGULATE ON THE SIDE WHERE THEY'RE NOT PART OF THAT FRANCHISE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. PLEASE. FIVE. I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION AHEAD OF THE CONVERSATION. AGAIN, THIS IS HELPFUL TO THE THOUGHT PROCESS BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A THREE YEAR MAP AHEAD OF US TO MAKE SOME DETERMINATIONS AND DECIDE WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE, INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, A, C, D I IS THE PROVIDER FOR BOTH, CORRECT? YES. ON. AND TANYA, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D ASK YOU THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR MAPS.

YOU'VE INDICATED WITH THE PURPLE SQUARES THAT THESE ARE COMMERCIAL TRASH PICKUPS. THE FIRST MAP, IT JUST SAYS COVERAGE AREA. NO. IN EACH ONE OF THE EACH ONE OF THE INDIVIDUAL MAPS, I'M SEEING LITTLE PURPLE SQUARES. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO. THAT IS REPRESENTING A COMMERCIAL DUMPSTER. OKAY. CAN I ASK YOU IN, IN YOUR IN YOUR OPERATIONAL STRUCTURE, HERE ARE THE VEHICLES THAT ARE SERVICING THE COMMERCIAL AREAS, SEPARATE VEHICLES FROM THOSE THAT ARE SERVICING RESIDENTIAL. CORRECT.

OKAY. SO IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOGISTICS THAT YOU'RE COORDINATING FOR THE COMMERCIAL VERSUS THE RESIDENTIAL. THERE'S NO CROSSOVER BETWEEN THE TWO. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. I JUST THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR US TO LOOK AT. I DO THINK THERE'S A REASONABLE REQUEST TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME HOURS CHANGES THAT ARE BUTTONED UP AGAINST THE RESIDENTIAL, AND THE COMMERCIAL CAN BE DONE WHEN IT'S A VERY COMMERCIAL AREA, KIND OF WHENEVER TO AVOID THE TRAFFIC AND THINGS. I THINK IT'S GOOD TO TALK ABOUT IT. AND I THINK IT'S VERY OBVIOUS THAT AC DC IS WILLING TO HELP US FIGURE IT OUT, BECAUSE I ALSO KNOW THAT THE CITY IS SO BIG, YOU CAN'T CRAM ALL THE COLLECTION INTO SOME LIMITED DAYTIME HOURS, THAT IT'S GOT TO BE STRIPPED OUT A LITTLE BIT. SO I THINK IT'S JUST WORTH A CONVERSATION. GOOD DEAL. ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED FROM COUNCIL? NO, MA'AM. I THINK WE KNOW OUR CHARGE. OKAY. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. IT IT IS 852 AND WE'VE MADE IT TO

[30. Council Member Closing Statements.]

COUNCIL MEMBER. CLOSING COMMENTS. TONIGHT. WE GOT DINNER FROM SKY ASIAN FUSION AND ALL I HEARD WAS LIP SMACKING. AND IT WAS GOOD AND IT SMELLED GOOD AND IT TASTED GOOD. SO THANK YOU TO THEM FOR PROVIDING DINNER TONIGHT. ALSO, WE HAD A PROCLAMATION ISSUED FOR HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, WHICH RUNS SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH, AND FOR NATIONAL CHIROPRACTIC HEALTH MONTH. AND THEN JUST AS A REMINDER, ART FEST HAS NOW BEEN RESCHEDULED TO OCTOBER 10TH. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE BLUEGRASS FESTIVAL AT MASON HOUSE IS NOW RESCHEDULED TO THE 16TH AND 17TH OF OCTOBER. AT LEAST ONE. THANKS, MAYOR. JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE TIMES OF YEAR THAT'S COMING UP NEXT TUESDAY, WHICH IS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT AND TOUCH SOME GRASS AND ACTUALLY TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS. IF YOU DON'T ALREADY TOUCH SOME GRASS, TOUCH SOME GRASS. GOT IT. TWO TUSH. TUSH. IS THAT A NEW TERM? NO, IT'S NOT NEW. BUT MAYBE.

MAYBE FOR MIKE. BUT LOVE, THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT WILL BE NEXT TUESDAY FROM 530 TO 8:00. AND THIS HERE WILL BE AT ROBIN BLEDSOE AND BENBROOK. SO MAKE IT OUT THERE, MEET YOUR NEIGHBORS, HAVE A HOT DOG, HAVE SOME GOOD CONVERSATIONS AND TALK TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

PLEASE DO. I ALSO WANTED TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GO TO ART FEST ON OCTOBER 10TH FROM 2 P.M. TO 6 P.M. FOR DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE. IT'S AN EXCITING TIME AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THE THINGS WE'RE DOING, BUT I CAN TELL YOU EVERY YEAR I GO OUT THERE, I'M SURPRISED. AND THE AMOUNT OF YOUTH PARTICIPATION AND THE CREATIVITY AND ALL THE THINGS THAT GO ON. ON A FINAL NOTE, I'D LIKE TO WISH MY WIFE HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HER BIRTHDAY SATURDAY. I THINK I GOT THE RIGHT DATE THIS YEAR. SO AFTER 31.5 YEARS OF MARRIAGE, SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND COME HOME SAFELY TOMORROW PLEASE. THREE I ALSO WANTED TO JUST REMIND FOLKS THE FALL RESIDENTIAL CLEANUP AND E-WASTE COLLECTION HAS ALSO BEEN RESCHEDULED FOR SATURDAY, OCTOBER 17TH, AND YOU CAN GO TO LEANDER.GOV BACKSLASH CLEANUP TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION THERE, AS WELL AS MAKE SURE YOU'RE REGISTERED TO VOTE. SO CIVIC ENGAGEMENT IS ALWAYS THE RIGHT ENGAGEMENT.

OCTOBER 5TH IS THE LAST DAY TO REGISTER TO VOTE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND YOU CAN GO TO

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VOTE TEXAS.GOV TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION. ELECTION DAY IS NOVEMBER 3RD. THANK YOU AND HAVE A GREAT EVENING. PLEASE FOR. SO I THINK A LOT OF THE REMINDERS HAVE ALREADY GONE OUT, BUT AFTER NATIONAL NIGHT OUT ON TUESDAY. THURSDAY, GO TO THE SENIOR CENTER FOR THE BLUE SANTA VOLUNTEER CALL. GUARANTEED TO BE A GOOD TIME. HOPEFULLY SANTA WILL BE THERE.

SO. AND ALSO ONE OTHER THING. MY SON WILL BE 22 YEARS OLD TOMORROW. SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY ANTHONY, PLEASE. FIVE MUSIC IS A POWERFUL, UNIVERSAL AND DIVERSE FORM OF HUMAN EXPRESSION THAT CONNECTS PEOPLE AND CONVEYS DEEP EMOTIONS WHERE WORDS CANNOT. THE AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION HAD A RECENT ARTICLE ON MUSIC AND THE MIND AND WHAT MAKES THE SCIENCE OF MUSIC REVEALS IS THE BENEFITS TO YOUR MENTAL HEALTH. MUSIC IS AN EXTRAORDINARY FEATURE OF THE HUMAN SPECIES, AND ITS UNDERSTANDING EFFECTS CAN HELP US USING IT INTENTIONALLY FOR SELF-CARE AND COMMUNITY BUILDING. AND WITH THAT IN MIND, TODAY IS INTERNATIONAL MUSIC DAY, A GLOBAL OBSERVANCE ESTABLISHED BY THE INTERNATIONAL MUSIC COUNCIL IN 1975 TO CELEBRATE THE DIVERSE EXPRESSION OF UNIVERSAL SIGNIFICANCE OF MUSIC.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR AND THE CITY FOR THE DECLARATION OF HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. AND ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO USE THIS TO MAKE A SHAMELESS PLUG FOR LEANDER GRUPO LATINO DIA DE LOS MUERTOS EVENT HAPPENING NOVEMBER 1ST. IT'S A SPECIAL EVENT THAT HONORS THE LIVES AND LEGACIES OF THE LOVED ONES THROUGH VIBRANT TRADITIONS, LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, ART, MUSIC, FAMILY FRIENDLY ACTIVITIES. INSPIRED BY ONE OF MEXICO'S MOST CHERISHED CELEBRATIONS. PLEASE MARK YOUR CALENDARS AND PLAN ON JOINING IN ON THE FUN.

TODAY IN HISTORY PROVIDES US INSPIRATION FROM TWO OTHER REMARKABLE MILESTONES THAT REFLECT A SHARED SPIRIT OF INNOVATION AND PUSHING BOUNDARIES. IN 1958, NASA WAS CREATED, AND IN 1982 THE COMPACT DISC ARRIVED. SO, LIKE THESE HISTORIC MOMENTS OF DISCOVERY AND HARMONY, LET'S CARRY THE EMBRACE OF INNOVATION AND THE SAME ENERGY INTO OUR OWN VISIONS HERE IN LEANDER. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE TO CITY STAFF FOR THEIR WORK TO GET US THERE. GOOD NIGHT AND LISTEN TO THE ADVICE OF CORINNE BAILEY RAE AND PUT YOUR RECORDS ON.

AND PLEASE SAY IT'S MAYOR. GOOD NIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE

[31. Convene into Executive Session pursuant to:

  1. Sections 551.071 and 551.076, Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05, Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding deployment of security devices and contracts related to security devices; and
  2. Section 551.072 Texas Government Code, and Section 1.05 Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct to consult with legal counsel regarding the acquisition of properties for public purposes.
]

SESSION. IT'S 858, PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE FIVE, 1.071 AND 551.076, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND SECTION 1.05 TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING DEPLOYMENT OF SECURITY DEVICES AND CONTRACTS RELATED TO SECURITY DEVICES AND TWO SECTION 551.072 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND SECTION 1.05 TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR IT'S 932 AND WE'RE RECONVENING IN THE OPEN

[ Reconvene into open session to take action as deemed appropriate in the City Council's discretion regarding:

  1. Deployment of security devices and contracts related to security devices; and
  2. Acquisition of properties for public purposes. 
]

SESSION TO TAKE ACTION AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE AND THE CITY COUNCIL'S DISCRETION REGARDING ONE DEPLOYMENT OF SECURITY DEVICES AND CONTRACTS RELATED TO SECURITY DEVICES. MAYOR PRO TEM ROSS, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO ACTION AND TWO ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE. MAYOR PRO TEM ROSS, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO ACTION. ALL RIGHT, THE TIME

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.